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What about man shaming? Men should never be ashamed of anything? We’re shaming men for looking at back at exes on social networks, that’s man shaming too isn’t? Manosphere is usually about confronting your feeling and reality instead of allowing wishful thinking to guide ideology like feminists. I’m not shaming men, I’m asserting this isn’t something we’re all guilty of, so why pretend like it isn’t? And I’m the one being man shamed for not saying those guys who do that sort of are pathetic fags…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/19 04:23 AM
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Idk we’re both arguing about dumb shit on the internet, we’re not different you and I
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/19 11:53 PM
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By that logic, You were definitely a pathetic and obsessive fag back in the day. Some things never change lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/19 11:43 PM
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It can be yeah, but don’t tell me you’ve never done it. Or maybe you have never done it because you don’t have an exes. Everyone gets curious sometime, it’s only natural. For a lot of people, they have had serious exes they’ve had serious feelings for and that doesn’t just go away. The masochist archetype in embedded in everyone’s psyche. Sure, it only leads to pain and it’s irrational, but sometimes feeling pain is better than feeling nothing. If someone was really in love with someone, I think…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/19 11:06 PM
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Normal for most people, just not the supermen on this subreddit
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/19 12:26 PM
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I thought so too, but she says she’s got a son. Makes you wonder lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/19 08:14 PM
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Sorry didn’t realize this was a safe space
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre09/06/19 04:25 AM
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I’d never date anyone who feels like settling with me and I’m not telling you to either. I suppose I’m saying all women have wild phases. And if they don’t, they’re prude and you’re no getting any anyways. I think the statement you’re really taking issue with there being some good women out there. Part of the problem is you have to be a “good man” to see them, which is probably your problem. If you guys just want to stew away in cess, I’ll leave you alone and contribute elsewhere,
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre08/06/19 09:36 PM
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Yeah, but don’t forget, AWALT. There is no perfect girl who will just be sexually attracted to you and not also sexually attracted to other men. If you marry a prude, you’re not getting sex in the end either. It’s not wrong for her to have the desires, even you will unconsciously desire other women, it’s whether there’s restraint or not. If you don’t want a long term partner, that’s fine, but that’s not what the OP is discussing he’s talking about indicators of good long term behavior and indica…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre08/06/19 08:03 PM
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I’m going to play devil’s advocate just to give a greater perspective. I think the problem is a little more complicated than it appears. Consider this: if women go straight into from a young age, they may feel like they’ve missed on the “being wild” stage that their peers had before they tried to settle down. This is one of the reasons women ask to open up the marriage to other partners, they still want to try to have both even though everything they’ve done has been by book of having a successf…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre08/06/19 05:56 PM
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Those younger people will get older and get the generation after that. It’s cycle really. I did say our generation is going to have to deal with for the rest of our lives because those women aren’t going anywhere, but there are always more people entering the market, so there’s always more women to pair up with. Men usually have to wait a bit because they tend to date down. What I’m talking about is probably a decade away when the first generation of women raised by feminists will reach the hard…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/19 06:31 PM
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It’s only going to get so bad until it flips back on itself, but our generation is going to have deal with these dynamics for the rest of our lives. I’m just saying, in 10 years there’s going to a significant increase in spinsters because men are catching on at this point. It will make the next generation of women more conservative because they’re going to see what happened to the women who don’t find a man who will commit before their SMV tanks. I think a lot of feminists are oblivious to the f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/19 04:33 PM
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The Boston markets got some good ribs
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 06:32 PM
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Most people don’t desire to live with their parents. We can’t all be geniuses like you
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 06:31 PM
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or people just have different desires than you. I don’t think those people moved out because they’re bad with numbers, I think they want to get away from their parents and be independent. It’s a lifestyle choice and at certain age, people judge it as you being dependent on them, whether or not that’s true. And everyone has that option, a lot of parents give their kids a strong push to get out. A lot of parents are resentful when their kids move back in and become miserable {recent scientific stu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 05:54 PM
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The living with parents stigma is only a stigma when people get closer to 30. I think it’s partially from women the wall. That’s the age that women get seriously about getting married and they see men who still live at home as being poor providers because it does appear they are incapable of supporting themselves. I’d say it is pretty normal for people who are still training and not maintaining a serious income. It doesn’t make for a lot of those people to live on their own because they don’t ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 05:07 PM
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good one
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/19 10:56 PM
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I know this is probably silly trying to make this point, but I believe de Beauvoir does have some seriously great arguments concerning existentialism. I’d argue her ideas aren’t representative of modern feminism today and I believe that her ideas could be beneficial to women, and even men, if understood properly in the context. I think it’s similar to philosophical treatment of Plato or Aristotle today. A lot of people attack their ideas, but don’t present them accurately, or charitably. People …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/19 06:44 PM
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As someone who also considers himself a tarot card reader, I can say most readers don’t consider it to be fortune telling, but more akin to spiritual guidance. It gives you a roadmap of your life and from there, different possible ways you could take your life. I realize this is reddit and skews towards atheists and Super-rational scientific geniuses, so I’m prepared to be downvoted and ridiculed. But you’re paying for it, then yeah it probably is a scam.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/19 05:02 AM
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Hey, at least she’s got some self-awareness. I see this as tongue in cheek personally. That’s not to say she doesn’t actually want those traits in a man, but I think it’s fairly obvious that even she knows describing a fantasy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/19 01:58 AM
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The grass is always greener on the other side. If you want to be happy, you don't need to change the world, you need to find yourself. There's happy people and unhappy people on both sides of the fence. As long as you see the world and other people are the cause to your unhappiness, you're never going to be happy because those are factors beyond your control. Change what you can (yourself) and learn to accept what you can't (the world and other people). That's the path to true happiness. That's …
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 10:22 PM
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Well I guess it depends on your real intentions. You could say you just got out of a serious relationship and you're not in a rush to get in another one. This demonstrates female pre-selection, gives the impression that you're not afraid of commitment in general (what I think that question is really trying to understand about you), but it also gives you a legitimate reason for not wanting a relationship at that time. You could be even more elusive and say you're just trying to see what's out the…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/17 07:44 PM
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Other people haven't said it, so I will. I've found girls tend to be more attracted to older guys. Of course this is just a tendency, but it's one that's very true in my experience. I was terrible with girls for quite a while until I started going for girls who were a couple years younger than me. I know that's tough at your age because the younger girls are in high school, and I wouldn't go for them, so just try your best, don't seem to serious about dating and just looking for something casual…
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:28 AM
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I hate to be that guy, but why should expect anyone on here to just believe you? This seems like a crazy story and it seems like a desperate ploy to get money. Maybe if you were just asking for sympathy but right now you just look like a beggar with a far fetched story. I think you're trying to con people. Don't they have insurance? Doesn't that cover funeral costs? I guess I don't know, but how it is your parents didn't have any money laying around. Sorry for being a cold heartless prick but th…
/r/seduction13/12/15 02:58 AM
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This was my initial instinct when I heard his story.
/r/seduction13/12/15 02:50 AM
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The '7hr rule' isn't saying you should wait 7hr to initiate because a girl won't sleep with you. It's more of a guideline for two reasons. Number one, the girl will probably be more willing to have sex on multiple occasions over a long period time. I mean, if you just want to hit it and quit it, go for it. But odds are, she's not going to talk to you again and the sex won't as satisfying. The second reason, and this is the big one, is you want to avoid buyers remorse. If go for sex right away, t…
/r/seduction08/12/15 01:26 PM
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Do you know how long most pick up artists say it takes from meeting the girl until you can take her to bed? According to mystery, it takes 7-10 hours on average. This is something Generally agreed upon and that's time that you're directly gaming her, so it doesn't include if you walk away to talk and hang out with other people. They suggest don't go straight for the f-close that night, but build a strong enough connection that she'll want to see you some other time. Otherwise, it's what they cal…
/r/seduction08/12/15 10:02 AM
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In fact, I have been with a model. She was entirely out of my league so to speak. But she had exactly as you describe, a bunch of relaxed guys who were themselves and they basically just hovered over her and showered her with compliments. she loved making them think they actually had a shot. I mean she'd flirt with them because she loved the attention but guess of how many of them she was fucking? None of them. I was actually appauled at how much shit she'd talk about these guys behind their bac…
/r/seduction07/12/15 03:12 PM
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Have you ever heard "don't hater the player, hate the game"? I think it's some advice you could learn to heed. You might hope and pray that going up to the hottest chicks and hitting on them would be enough, but it's not. You really think they don't get that shit all the time? Haven't you heard of catcalling? You think you have a chance they're going to fuck you just because you have the balls to hit on them? If you just walk up to them and hit on them, I guarantee you're already on their list o…
/r/seduction07/12/15 03:07 AM
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Nah it's not a weird artifact. It does serve a purpose. If you've read their books, the reason you give a number to your report is because the more attractive the girl, the harder you have to game her. The lower the number, you can't game them as hard because it will actually hurt their attraction to you. For instance, a HB10 you need to play hard right off the bat, a couple negs in a couple minutes or else she'll get bored. A 6 or 7 you shouldn't play as hard because it will be a turn off to th…
/r/seduction06/12/15 10:04 AM
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The party is on Friday. Today is Monday. You can totally wait for her to reach out to you. If she doesn't reach out to you, you don't want to take her to the party anyways because this relationship is completely one-sided then. Otherwise she's totally using you. Looks like you don't care about that though. Looks like you think think relationship is salvageable. At this point, I seriously doubt it. Anyway you go about addressing these issues is going to push her away. She already realizes she's i…
/r/seduction01/12/15 12:21 AM
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I would just ignore her for a couple days unless she contacts you. Well I mean if you see her at school, you can talk to her, but don't reach out to her. Wait for her to reach out to you. If you talk to her a lot and she doesn't reach out to you, then it's definitely a not a balanced relationship and you need to cut her out or just take what you get and don't get too attached. It seems like you already are. If that's the case, you might want to just cut her out or try to see other people. As for…
/r/seduction30/11/15 02:56 PM
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I think you're right that it's applicable to a lot of stuff beyond women, but I also disagree with the notion "the art of being able to deal with any situation to the best of your knowledge". This makes it seems like the better you are with women, the better you are at anything, which is clearly false. Perhaps if it were more along the lines of a social situation, I'd probably agree with it more. I think the game can get you better at dealing problems in your social life beyond women, and maybe …
/r/seduction28/11/15 06:24 AM
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I just ran into this problem myself. You can be the rebound, just don't push her faster than she wants and don't expect her to fall for you. She probably just wants fun to forget about her ex for a while. There's really only so much you can do. I think I pushed her more than she was ready for and we had fun for maybe a week, hooked up three times and then it became too much for her and she decided to end it. Which disappointed me, but I realized there really wasn't anything I could do. Don't get…
/r/seduction27/11/15 12:08 PM
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I think you have the answer in your own post. You say the younger girls in their 20's want the older guys and the girls around your age want to settle down. Go for the younger girls man. They don't want to settle down yet, they're having fun, just like you're in your age for having your fun. They're not getting revenge on you, you just have to go the girls that want the same thing as you. They're out there man. Good luck.
/r/seduction27/11/15 11:59 AM
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Bingo, I agree with what you said. You should try to be approaching mostly strangers. I don't want my romantic life to interfere with other parts of my life. Especially not my work. I was like you, I thought it wouldn't affect my work multiple times. Boy was I wrong. Even if you avoid her, people gossip. It's not going to be a clean break off unless you wait until you're not working there anymore, or she's not working there anymore. There's a reason many people suggest don't date coworkers. By a…
/r/seduction27/11/15 11:43 AM
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Honestly, it doesn't seem like she's interested in you. And you work with her, so at this point, you have a lot more to lose than to gain. Have you ever heard "don't shit where you eat"? I think that's advice you could use right now. I'd just wait on it out for now. Does she say 'hahaha' a lot? She seems to be laughing either at your joke, which is saying it's a bad time to ask her out, or she could be giving you a hint that she isn't interested in you asking her out ever. If she was, she probab…
/r/seduction27/11/15 09:45 AM
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I don't know about you, but I don't play the game just to have sex once, or even just to have sex. I mean part of the fun for me is the chase, and I also build mini relationships with each girl. I don't want to just pump a girl and dump her. I want to fuck a girl and make sure she likes me enough that she's the one hitting me up for a booty call later, not the other way around. You don't get that by that just spending minimal time with girls and not investing in them beyond the bare minimum. If …
/r/seduction25/11/15 10:49 AM
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I've seen this problem. Here's what I do. I talk to her about her plans this week, or find out her schedule so I get an idea when she might be free. Then I say, "let's do something tomorrow night. Please let me know if you can't because I'd definitely make other plans". Or you could even say "let me know if you can't because I've got another friend who wants to go out, but I'd rather go out with you." This lets her know you're not overinvested in her (after all, you're going to do something anyw…
/r/seduction03/11/15 08:14 PM
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Tell her "I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now". Either she'll ask why you haven't, or she'll just kiss you. I've never not had this line work with girls. It's gotta feel natural, like perhaps during a natural pause in a dialog. Or maybe after a laugh that comes for no apparent reason. She'll ask you , "what's so funny?" Or just a "what?" With a little giggle. That's the perfect time. It might seem too indirect for some guys on this sub, but the girls I've been with have loved it. Girls …
/r/seduction02/11/15 10:38 PM
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You're telegraphing too much interest. Tone back your game. If girls think you're trying to get them, it's going to turn them off. You need to make it seem like you're desired and they are the ones that are trying to get you. Girls don't want to settle for an average guy. So stop trying so hard. That's your problem
/r/seduction28/10/15 03:48 AM
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I'm not sure if you've read any Carl jung but I've gotten really into him lately. He's the man who invented the concept of 'archetype' that Joseph Campbell uses. Jung's main theory about women was their attraction comes from an archetype called the animus. The only thing I'd say is that Jung wouldn't agree with red pill based off what I've read about him. It seems like Jung agrees that our gender does strongly influence the way we see the world, particularly how we relate to the opposite sex, bu…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 10:37 PM
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I'm just saying what you're describing isn't what narcissism is really like. Narcissism is a serious problem. And narcissists aren't necessarily more attractive people either. Some narcissists just want to be the center of attention, they don't even care if it's bad attention. Narcissism doesn't mean the person will be a confident person either. I think the red pill is mistaking the effect for the cause. I think it's entirely possible some of the most attractive people are narcissists, but I don…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 08:37 AM
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I think you mean narcissists appear confident. But the truth is most narcissists are desperately insecure. I don't understand the red pill's infatuation with narcissism. I think the red pill idealizes it to the point that it becomes it is no longer distinguishable from the way the personality disorder actually appears in people. If you know real narcissists, they're not people you want to be like. I think the red pill wants narcissists to be the way narcissists see themselves, not the way narcis…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 03:53 AM
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I know you're trying to prove a point, but I find it somewhat amusing and ironic how you tell people they should 'never elaborate' followed by an elaboration of not elaborating.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/14 12:44 AM
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I think you can say more about each stage. For instance, what does the man perceive to be their 'problem' at each stage? In stage 1, men think other men are their problem. I.e. the reason they can't get a woman is because they can't compete with the other men. When they fail, they project their anger and frustration on the people who 'steal' their women from them. They will sometimes even get in fights with other guys over women. At this stage, the man tends to only go for one woman at a time an…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/14 09:40 PM
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I think it's perfectly normal to have anxiety. Real men do have anxiety. It's how you deal with anxiety that makes you a man. Real men don't run from their problems. Real men don't succumb to the pressure. Real men use their anxiety to bolster themselves. I'd say a certain amount of anxiety is healthy to a point, and if you don't have anxiety, you could be blind to your own shortcomings, something that could hurt you more than it can help you. So I wouldn't say 'real men don't have anxiety'. Eve…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 11:03 AM
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Yeah, I understand that's a not a great excuse, but I'm just saying just because someone has an std doesn't mean that someone was sexually active. If she was smart, she could say she was born with it. I know people who were born with it.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 04:34 AM
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Correct if I'm wrong, people can be born with the disease, so just because someone has it doesn't mean they've had sex or that they've ever been sexually active.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 03:21 AM
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I just don't think your sample size is high enough to make a such a claim that rape is worse than murder. I'd rather get raped be murdered. And I'm saying that from the vantage point of someone who was raised by a sexually abused mother and someone who has a sexually abused brother. I suppose this is getting very personal now. I know that I probably shouldn't ever have children because I believe that my mother's sexual abuse has severely affected me and it's probably hurt me in ways that even I …
/r/TheRedPill28/07/14 06:21 AM
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Doesn't that go against your 'orgasm' theory though? The perpetrator of sex abuse who is only fingering doesn't necessarily achieve orgasm. So it's got to be something besides an orgasm.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/14 08:54 PM
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Sounds similar to Hegel's master-slave dialectic. I'd say you need to realize that having the mindset that overcoming 'seeking validation' is not going to make you a better person because ultimately, It appears your reason for doing so is because on some level, you're still 'seeking validation'. According to Hegel, the next step to 'self-conscious'/self-awareness' is by developing a 'stoic' mindset.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 11:22 AM
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Sounds a lot like prosody, if you've ever heard that term. It's more about how you deliver what you're saying rather than what you're saying. Specifically emotional prosody. How you develop the correct prosody in a particular situation is not an easy task, but it can be learned IMO. One way I've been able to work on this element (how you deliver what you're going to say) is actually an acting technique called the Meisner Technique. Here is a very brief example of how it can be practiced Basicall…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 11:16 PM
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