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that's right. bow down to me and say you're sorry
/r/seduction18/08/26 08:45 PM
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norway is super progressive and those fuck like crazy no?
/r/seduction18/08/26 07:12 PM
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quite literally yes. 6'2" wide shoulders, highly educated, confident, most of the time hottest guy in the room, have dated insanely hot women, have unlimited likes on Hinge, etc
/r/seduction18/08/26 06:28 PM
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you clearly don't know how this shit works. it's ok, not everyone can get it. it's lonely at the top
/r/seduction18/08/26 06:00 PM
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idk what you're talking about. when i was in prague i hooked up with some danish girls. skandi girls are like shooting fish in a barrel
/r/seduction18/08/26 05:54 PM
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No, idk why this is so hard for people to understand. i guess y'all have not seen it play out IRL. the hottest guy in the bar is not getting approached by girls constantly, and not all girls. only the hottest girls approach him and do it subtly. a girl who perceives herself as way below him will not try, because she knows that she can't keep him and so there's no point. also, she knows that she's going to lose a competition with other women and it will hurt her standing and status.
/r/seduction18/08/26 02:05 PM
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never did I say you won't get ANY attention. obviously that's absurd but you will repel some women who prefer a man that's more secure and doesn't require as much competition and mate guarding.
/r/seduction18/08/26 01:56 PM
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never do this shit ever again. it will never result in anything good. it's feminine as fuck. who the fuck cares if "their ex is crazy!" it's irrelevant to you. you can judge for yourself whether you want to be with someone
/r/seduction17/08/26 05:49 PM
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no, this is absurd. stop diagnosising people off of nothing
/r/seduction17/08/26 04:11 PM
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it seems like a lot of younger guys are doing a lot of girly shit like texting the ex in a scenario like this. not sure how we got here but i hate it
/r/seduction17/08/26 04:11 PM
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lol why would you ever message the ex. this is pyscho behavior.
/r/seduction17/08/26 04:09 PM
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ya, women are not biologically designed for overt conflict. they prefer men who are not obviously getting a ton of attention because they don't want to have to compete for his attention/resources.
/r/seduction17/08/26 03:38 PM
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women will be harsher to guys that mog them. you upsetted her view of herself and rejected you before you could reject her
/r/seduction17/08/26 03:36 PM
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guys like this actually modulate by being super nice like plenty of the recent dudes who were on the bachelor.
/r/seduction17/08/26 03:35 PM
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/r/seduction16/08/26 11:01 PM
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you might be able to get someone into a relationship but then you're stuck in a relationship with someone who doesn't want to be with you, which is not a win
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:59 PM
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i misunderstood your first point but we agree. this is a manipulation attempt by the woman. you also legit can't trick anyone into a relationship that they don't want. women are nowadays so obessed with being in a relationship or being exclusive as if the label protects them from something or stops him from leaving or cheating on her but it doesn't do either. I do absolutely think you should have sex as soon as possible. that is the correct opinion, not some gotcha. you should have sex as soon a…
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:52 PM
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lol wat are you talking about.
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:42 PM
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so much faulty thinking here... if a guy "loses interests" after sex that doesn't make him a manipulator jfc you can't trick anyone into a relationship you can't select on "compatibility" because you don't even know each other. sex is a very important part of that compatibility as a foundation. everything that happens before sex is just not real
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:41 PM
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this is an amateur move right here and plenty of woman run it. ultimately it doesn't work though. some guys might think like what you've said "Oh, she fucks on the first date, she's a slut and I don't take her serious." but those guys are not the ones you want to date anyways. also it's just not true that "if I guy gets sex, he's not interested in the girl anymore". probably the biggest lie women tell each other. before you have sex, you are dealing with a starving animal, driven by desire and n…
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:37 PM
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what it does is outsource her thinking to a rule. when it's used, it's a major red flag because you are dealing with a woman who's not able to make her own decisions and listen to her body. it also, doesn't work as you've pointed out. "it's only the 2nd date" is frankly irrelevant. it's used as a way for her to avoid her feelings if she is into you, and also as a way to avoid confronting the fact that she's not into you. it's still bad to think like this, but it's unforgivable to vocalize them. …
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:34 PM
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not really. if you think that you need to get into someone else's business then you're just wrong and it's not ok. i won't accept that
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:30 PM
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ya, that too. girls think that every guy wants to fuck them. if you're not trying then she assumes that you don't like her
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:29 PM
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ya, that's what we call "she's not into you." we've been told this lie that women need to "build a connection" before they can feel an attraction to you and that's frankly bullshit. that was true when women were told to ignore their desires and instead settle for boring, stable men with resources. we're no longer in those dark ages. now women act decisively and fuck guys that they're into all the fucking time. if she is saying that she needs to "establish a connection" then she's saying that she…
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:50 PM
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ok but for most people, fucking their friends is not a long term strategy. you fuck one girl and then poison the well. most people also are not looking to hookup cuz they see friends as more for long-term relationships. that's why dating apps or picking girls up at night are infinitely better for hookups.
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:41 PM
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yup, girls will see you how you want them to see you. for guys getting back into the game after a long break cuz of a relationship it can be hard to turn off "boyfriend mode". you think that girls will only wanna be with you if you do the right things. everyone needs to get blackpilled. you don't have to do almost anything to sleep with a girl who wants you. "wyd? cum over" has worked on more girls than you would ever want to know
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:40 PM
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there's not a spark cuz she's not into you. i swear y'all really need to understand SHE'S JUST NOT INTO YOU works for basically everything. if she was into you, she'd for sure make you feel that spark. i bet there was no physical escalation as well huh?
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:37 PM
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wow! such breakthrough advice like "it depends" and "read her signals". fucking crazy shit
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:35 PM
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bro did you just legit repeat everything i said in my post?
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:34 PM
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this is so true and not many people realize this is a type. the Shiv Roy. she gets off on power and being able to control you. she doesn't want to fuck you
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:33 PM
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nah fuck that. her having a boyfriend is irrelevant to you. if she wants to cheat then let her cheat. she might be open or already halfway out the door or whatever. no reason to make any assumptions. the only place where it's different is if you know the guy
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:32 PM
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i think it's honestly strange that "put on a movie" is some agreed upon required step before having sex. like why is this the norm lol? I had this girl over for a 3rd date and made her dinner, we were drinking wine and flirting, going well. I say let's sit on the couch and she's like "uh you wanna put on something?" and I'm like "no, we can just talk." and she acted like that was some weird thing like I skipped a step
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:30 PM
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you're in a totally different situation than the average dude if you're openly poly and friends with other poly people.
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:25 PM
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ya, if your goal is to just hookup then social circle is a terrible option
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:24 PM
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lol ya, cold approach is honestly so stupid. it's been pushed by different groups for different reasons. for dudes who get no action on apps they think they'll have better chances IRL but often dont. for girls who are tired of modern dating and men who want to hookup but not get into a committed relationship they think cold approaches are going to change that but it doesn't. back in the day no one met via cold approach in the grocery store. they met through friends, work, hobbies, etc. you had l…
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:23 PM
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nah, not even then is a good reason. that just means she's given you "one-itis". it's ok, we've all been there. I was there with this one girl who was a bitch and thankfully I was still setting up other dates. just had a 3rd date with one girl and no sex and was thinking about where it goes from there and had a 1st date with another girl. wasn't really as interested in her cuz i was too stuck on the other, then she's fun and super interested in me and we fuck on the first date on a tuesday. imme…
/r/seduction16/08/26 06:01 PM
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"reborn christian" is a stupid term that's fake. is she committed to remaining celibate before marriage? if yes, then it's irrelevant cuz y'all aint ever fucking. if the answer is no, then being a "reborn christian" doesn't mean shit other than vibes and then she probably doesn't like you. I mean maybe some girl can call themselves a "reborn christian" and they say they won't have sex outside of a committed relationship, but if that's the case then cut her loose
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:59 PM
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lol oh you sweet summer child. you said you're not that hot and so you unfortunately haven't experienced this. i get hit on by women all the time. I've had women cold approach me saying "you're hot, wanna fuck." I've talked to a girl during grad school who talked to me for maybe 10 mins before inviting me up to her place. I've been out and talked to a girl on the sidewalk, got her number, texted her later in the night, met up, and went back to my place. it's real, and it's a lot more common than…
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:53 PM
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5 still absolutely insane
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:50 PM
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men do not really understand it cuz they think "if she's giving me attention she must like me" but women are not men. they fucking love attention. they have an insatiable desire for attention. they are always fucking texting on their phone. they love having guys fighting for them, it gives them a huge hit to the ego. the only reason why they won't drag you along is if they have some other guy who's competing for their attention who's not going to settle. she only has so many nights and if she's …
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:50 PM
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no, it does not depend. a woman that will not have sex with you after 3 dates doesn't like you. there is no attraction from her end. unless she's waiting for marriage and sex is off the table, which is highly unlikely and you should've filtered her out already
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:48 PM
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if anyone says a rule out loud like "I can't do that cuz it's only the 2nd date" then cut them loose
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:46 PM
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ya, ideally 2 but max max 3. 3rd date is dinner at your place and she knows what she's getting herself into. if you're not smashing after the 3rd then cut her loose. she hates you. even if she claims that she "just started her period" or whatever dumb excuse she has. women think men are dumb as fuck
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:45 PM
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stupid af opinion
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:44 PM
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date 5 is insane
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:44 PM
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I've also had plenty of times this has happened. it's real dude
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:43 PM
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the only possible scenario that makes any sort of sense is if she's very inexperienced and wants to have sex but is too in her head about it and wants it to happen but is just scared.
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:43 PM
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if it takes 8 dates then she hates you lol
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:42 PM
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sex shouldn't be the end goal, but sexual compatibility is the foundation of the relationship. also sex is a costly signal for women, so if you never have sex and just go on dates for months you'll never know if she actually likes you. girls have unlimited demand for gay best friends, and if you're going on dates, planning shit, paying for things, and not having sex you're basically just a GBF
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:42 PM
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ya, at the end of the day you need to give attention to women who are actually interested in you and open for connection. a girl saying that she likes you, texting you, going on dates, etc doesn't mean shit. having sex is the actual "costly signal" for women, since societally they're still slut shamed. if a girl says she really likes you and loves spending time with you but won't have sex with you then that girl doesn't like you. just plain and simple.
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:40 PM
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lol ok, that's kinda a completely different situation
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:38 PM
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the specifics here really matter. if it's clear that she is really interested in connection but is sexually inexperienced and reserved, it can still make sense if she's actively moving towards you and is working to meet you halfway. like "oh, i don't want to have sex but I'm ok to do oral." but, it's still a tough situation to be in. There's a delicate balance here and you want to be open to her and not push her to do things before she genuinely wants to, but also you don't want to be skated alo…
/r/seduction16/08/26 05:37 PM
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thanks, probably will further flesh this out and make it a main post eventually
/r/seduction15/08/26 02:41 PM
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this is a fine long game but in terms of just getting reps in and going on dates, apps are infinitely better
/r/seduction14/08/26 03:07 PM
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dating apps are really not that hard or scary. idk why guys don't wanna figure out how to deal with them and present themselves in a positive way. maybe cuz they think they're being manipulative? anyways, here's a quick guide: have good photos. it's literally all about good photos. photos to have: 1st photo needs to be of you at dinner or a bar, can clearly see your face, and you should look good. she needs a clear picture of what you would look like on a date so she can envision herself there a…
/r/seduction14/08/26 03:06 PM
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idk, something like 22 - 34?
/r/seduction14/08/26 02:54 PM
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ya, women will almost never tell you to your face "wow, you're so hot" so if that ever happens to you, or if you ever get approached IRL, then know that you're very attractive. I've had women say to me "you look like someone who's not used to hearing no" but then the same woman later in the relationship was trying to tell me how I was fat and ugly. women are complex creatures, they don't even understand themselves
/r/seduction14/08/26 02:53 PM
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damn, fucking got me so good man
/r/seduction13/08/26 02:44 PM
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stupid as fuck comment. ya, not in 100% of cases but in most cases
/r/seduction12/08/26 07:34 PM
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ya, the game has flipped now that there are unlimited options. no one (man or woman) should ever be spending time with someone who doesn't want to be with them. there are an unlimited number of girls who would wanna fuck you, stop trying to make a fish that doesn't wanna bite, bite instead of just finding fish that are hungry. people get sunk cost fallacy and think that they are going to change her mind but it will never work anymore cuz of how things have changed. if you get bad vibes from her …
/r/seduction12/08/26 05:51 PM
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ya, we all have to work on deprogramming ourselves from the shitty advice given to men in the past. it happens cuz you have blinders on and are trying to do whatever is right to fuck her, only afterwards are you able to see what was really going on. I was on a date with a girl who was not open for a relationship due to a few different reason that's not really important. I ignored so many red flags cuz I was set in my goal and she wasn't openly rejecting me. first date: arms crossed, stiff hand w…
/r/seduction12/08/26 05:37 PM
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women go on dates with guys they're not interested in CONSTANTLY for all kinds of reasons. women are not men. men go on dates with girls they wanna fuck. the only reason they might change their mind is if she's like wayyyy fatter in person than her photos. Here are a list of a few possible reasons: she told herself that she needs to "put herself out there more" she agreed to the date when she was in a different hormonal state she wanted to "give you a chance" and see if you were better in person…
/r/seduction12/08/26 04:03 PM
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her arms are crossed cuz she's closed off and not open to connection. when you've experienced what it's like when a girl is into you, you'll see that it's completely night and day
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:35 PM
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you also can just end the date if she's closed off and not interested in connection. normalize just leaving girls who are acting like bitches. it's hard cuz our culture wants guys to think they need to chase women but nah, we are the prize
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:34 PM
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"she's just not that into you" repeat in your head over and over again, and then move on. it doesn't matter why she isn't interested. there is nothing to "learn", you just need to find someone who is into yuo
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:33 PM
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ya, she didn't like you. nothing you can do about it other than read body language and cut your losses early. if you're on a date with a girl and she's got her arms crossed, isn't leaning into you, when you hold her hand it's stiff and lifeless than just end the date. no reason to spend time with someone who's not open to connection
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:31 PM
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lmfao you are the one who is incorrect bro. idk if you really understand how therapy works but in general they are not "taking you" anywhere. they are just giving you a safe space to talk so that you can uncover your feelings/thoughts/beliefs that are more difficult to reach on your own. this is literally what almost all therapists are trained to do. it's their job. I am someone who is already very introspective, not afraid of negative emotions, has very strong metacognition, and spends a lot of…
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:22 PM
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oh ya? well i had the hottest girlfriend on campus of 50k students so take that
/r/seduction11/08/26 10:58 PM
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5'4" is rough man, props to you
/r/seduction11/08/26 10:57 PM
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the guys that get the most ass are ones who actively seek it out, are really good at filtering women who are dtf, and don't get too wrapped up with making sure they're only fucking the hottest girl in the bar. yes, it helps to be tall, attractive, confident, etc but those things are only one piece of the puzzle.
/r/seduction11/08/26 10:55 PM
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women don't look at guys at the gym cuz they really don't want to be approached at the gym usually unless it's in areas other than around the machines like afterwards if they're getting a smoothie or something.
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:50 PM
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ya, it's really not that complicated when you really think about it. a lot of dudes get this wrong by flashing stuff that guys care about like cars, watches, etc and that just signals insecurity to women
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:46 PM
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women are mainly looking for status, stability, and a certain lifestyle. my profile has a lot of these signals and they're subtle. good wealth signaling is about stuff that's not loud cuz that's for new money. examples: you've got the basic stuff like job title and education of course first picture is me at a nice restaurant with a cool outfit on next is a picture of me on a boat in the Med picture of me wearing a tie at a nice event at a museum. clearly not a wedding, could read like a charity …
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:37 PM
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that sucks man, for sure feel for you. life sometimes hits you like a sack of bricks. "everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth." I'm dealing with some life changing stuff as well. recently has an acute illness that almost killed me, now I'm recoverying from it all but it's a long slow recovery process so I get where you're at. at the end of the day you should allow yourself to grieve and mourn what you've lost and what yuo think you deserve and then you gotta move foward. the o…
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:33 PM
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I'm talking about studies that they have done, that in general the effect of talk therapy is mainly just a listening ear. of course an elite therapist will make a big difference but they are the outlier, not the norm. most therapists are taught to reflect things back to you. they never tell you what to do, what to think, etc cuz that can expose them to liability.
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:30 PM
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sure, ya i don't think there's anything wrong with a kiss at the end of the date, i just think that structurally it's better to try to game plan a kiss more in the middle than at the end.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:51 AM
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i just think that this is kinda a silly way to view things. women 100% know that every dude on a date with them wants to fuck them. we are not smooth lol. are cards are definitely shown. in this situation I'm not saying you are kissing her and then immediately going back to yours. what I'm saying is that when you're on a date and you're not maybe 100% trying to get her to come back to yours, waiting until the absolute end of the date to go for a kiss is a mistake. by going for it in the "middle"…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:50 AM
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you should, really missing out
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:35 AM
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ya, i mean at the volume that you're talking about it's kinda a different story tbh. i see the same thing with PUA influencer coaches. this works if you recognize patterns and do a lot of subtle filtering on the front end so you're basically only going on dates that have a very high chance of converting already. where I'm coming from is a different strategy and who knows, maybe I'll eventually land more where you're at but that's just my experience so far.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:30 AM
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ya, i mean also i have a very strong hinge profile and i have degrees from elite schools and a high paying job so ya, i know that i'm in a privileged position for sure. there are still some issues, not to whip out the world's smallest violin but I've had to adjust my mindset cuz I'm kinda new to OLD and had a gf for a long time. back in the days before apps, I'm used to scanning the room, finding the hottest girl, and shooting my shot. now with OLD I find that the super hot girls aren't really t…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:28 AM
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ya, everything is context dependent. if you're on a brunch date for sure not really the opportunity for a makeout. I'm talking primarily night dates over drinks. at the end of the day, if she wants you then they'll makeup with justification they need. just cuz you've made out doesn't mean that going back to your means automatic sex. you can still say "go back to mine" and have it mean the same thing. just an invitation to go somewhere more secluded. i do think that if the opportunity arises, bre…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:22 AM
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/r/seduction11/08/26 01:16 AM
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being successful gives you confidence and is a universal signal that you're a desirable mate. women are hard wired to value status and ability to provide resources. if you're short, fat, ugly, bald, etc then looks like you're gunna have to find other ways to be desirable and having money and showing that you're stable is one way. for sure trying to buy women's attention and blow money is a terrible strategy cuz it attracts the wrong women and it looks really insecure and insecurity is extremely …
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:16 AM
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ya, i'm not saying that this happens all the time but i'm just explaining one situation where it could happen. there for sure seems like something is going wrong here. OP likely could be filtering much better on the front end.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:14 AM
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lol, you think girls are that dumb? every girl with two braincells knows that "going back to my place for a glass of wine" means "lets fuck". there should be a natural escalation of touch regardless. even if you're going for the kiss mid-date it shouldn't come out of nowhere. all im saying is that you're better off building to a mid-date kiss than waiting until the end. if you wait until the end it's awkward and kinda ruins the moment
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:12 AM
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spent a lot of time doing the first one and realized that most don't want to change, just want to vent so I flipped and am embracing my villain era
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:09 AM
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well ok, like when I say "infinite matches" this is the case for basically any guy who's in the top 20% who is getting all of the attention. I guess you probably dont have actually infinite matches cuz the apps will throttle you so you don't get overwhelmed but I feel like I quickly get overwhelmed on Hinge if I'm sending out any volume of likes. I have a ridiculously long number of likes, probably 500+? if I like her, there's like an 80% i'll match. I have more girls than I can actually give at…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:08 AM
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why can't OP get money?
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:03 AM
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ya, like the bar for being attractive enough is really not that high. most girls are filtering most guys through a "is this guy gunna be a fun time?"
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:02 AM
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google.com
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:01 AM
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ya, this is the value of a therapist. they're basically a paid actor pretending to be your friend when you don't have someone who can really fill that role for you. it kinda fucks with me in the past when i have a therapist who i can sense doesn't actually give a fuck, like the illusion glitches out and i feel worse than before. i think that talk therapy is mainly not for me but I'm interested in exploring other modalities
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:01 AM
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idk what this mean but yes bro
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:59 AM
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bro just a quick google search showed me that there absolutely are ways to manage it and improve your condition rather than just mope. like ok maybe you're not gunna be a pro athlete but that doesn't mean that you can't exercise and be healthy
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:58 AM
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it's also a status signal. a guy who can still get matches without having intentions or politics listed is a guy who's desirable and that translates. it's called "effortless superiority"
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:56 AM
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I mean, if your'e pulling properly then you're going for the kiss in the middle of the date. i don't really get what you're saying. are you asking girls to come back to your place without having kissed them? kinda wild tbh.
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:54 AM
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Tony? Tony Soprano? is that you?
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:51 AM
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you just keep putting yourself out there. it's a process. some times you're gunna be grinding in the cave like tony stark and then you feel like it's time to put yourself out there a lil more and get some data. I'm not saying that there isn't some stuff that you can learn in terms of what to do once you got one on the line, that's different from the people i'm critiquing
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:47 AM
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ya, there's a difference in "she's not that into you" and "basically every woman I've approached isn't into me"
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:39 PM
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all i'm saying is that if your excuse for why you can't get girls is cuz you live with your parents then change that and don't let it stop you. in lots of other cultures like in southern europe and south america living at home is normal and doesn't stop dudes from pulling
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:19 PM
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all i'm saying is that if your excuse for why you can't get girls is cuz you live with your parents then change that and don't let it stop you. in lots of other cultures like in southern europe and south america living at home is normal and doesn't stop dudes from pulling
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:17 PM
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all i'm saying is that if your excuse for why you can't get girls is cuz you live with your parents then change that and don't let it stop you. in lots of other cultures like in southern europe and south america living at home is normal and doesn't stop dudes from pulling
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:12 PM
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therapy is largely bullshit. your problem is your internal beliefs about yourself don't match the outside world. if you're actually that desirable then go put yourself out there and get the results you claim you deserve. do that enough times and then your internal state matches the external one. this is something that does take time though, cuz most women will hide how attracted they are to you and will gaslight you cuz they don't want men knowing how desirable they are. dating apps are huge for…
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:11 PM
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this sort of defeatist thinking is such bullshit. yes, things have shifted and women are less likely to "give him a chance" but that doesn't mean that you're completely fucked. unless you're significantly disabled/disfigured you are not terminally celibate. most guys complaining are not in that group, they could do something but would rather complain. as a man literally no one gives a fuck. the victim bullshit will not work so stop doing it.
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:08 PM
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i mean yes and no. "everything is trauma" but for almost most people the reason why you aren't getting any bitches is not cuz of how your mom treated you when you were 3, it's cuz you're an unfuckable loser. figure out what are the biggest blockers to you getting the life you want and start chipping away
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:05 PM
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i mean yes and no. "everything is trauma" but for almost most people the reason why you aren't getting any bitches is not cuz of how your mom treated you when you were 3, it's cuz you're an unfuckable loser. figure out what are the biggest blockers to you getting the life you want and start chipping away
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:04 PM
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plenty of dudes who are ugly as fuck still get girls though. men are extremely lucky in their ability to be desirable in many different ways. in the worst of circumstances there are actual medical interventions like if you have an overbite, cleft palate, narrow palate, mouth breather, etc.
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:02 PM
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plenty of dudes who are ugly as fuck still get girls though. men are extremely lucky in their ability to be desirable in many different ways. in the worst of circumstances there are actual medical interventions like if you have an overbite, cleft palate, narrow palate, mouth breather, etc. and volume really isn't a solve for the root cause tbh. volume is best served when a man is fuckable but not confident. so he needs to put up a lot of shots and see that he is fuckable, which can increase conf…
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:02 PM
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depends entirely on what kind of therapy. most talk therapy is frankly bullshit. it can be useful if you're stuck and have tried a lot of things but aren't sure what your issue is but it's largely a black hole for men. talk therapy is largely designed from a female perspective and how it's soothing to talk things out loud. studies have been done that shows talk therapy is about as effective as talking to friends. it can be important if you don't have any safe people to be open with though. most …
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:00 PM
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ok stop going to therapy then, it's clearly not working
/r/seduction10/08/26 05:58 PM
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therapy often sucks as a man if it's talk therapy. it's designed as an safe space for you to talk out loud and figure out what your problems are. you often don't get very far. for most men the roadblock for why they're not having success isn't a mystery.
/r/seduction10/08/26 05:57 PM
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the problem of "inner game" only applies if you're fuckable but not confident. i'm talking about the guys that claiming to not be fuckable. if you're not fuckable then fix that. people want shortcuts. they don't wanna actually improve. the stupid PUA bros drilled it into people's heads that if you memorize some script and cold approach 10,000 women then one will fuck your sorry ass. this is broadly horrible advice and if you fixed your problems then you wouldn't have to approach 10,000 women
/r/seduction10/08/26 04:48 PM
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friends to lovers is fake. it was popular back in the day since women needed men for financial stability so they would settle for dudes they didn't like and ignored the lack of desire. shit doesn't work anymore. if you do this, you're going to have a shitty sex life cuz she doesn't actually want you. the only time this can possibly work is if someone is off limits due to being a relationship. so if you're friends with her but she has a bf, then you could date but even this is pretty unlikely. it…
/r/seduction10/08/26 04:43 PM
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ok then change it and stop making excuses
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:48 PM
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ya, going for the kiss and getting a no can be really good. this is something that guys don't really get cuz they think in binary terms but there's a huge difference between "no" and "not yet". you really can learn to read a woman's body language and see how she approaches things if it's really a not yet.
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:48 PM
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ok then change it and stop making excuses
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:47 PM
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ugly guys get pussy all the time. why not you?
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:39 PM
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if you are desirable then you should be confident because your internal state matches reality. you can do some amount of "faking it" but it isn't a long-term strategy.
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:27 PM
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not really into asian girls largely cuz I'm a titty man through and through. hard to find an asain girl with cannons. also, i find the ones that are really hot have a pretty unattractive view of relationships where they expect princess treatment and all that bullshit. so there's nerdy asain girls who aren't hot, then the ABGs who look slutty and expect to be treated like a prostitute so I'm really not that into them
/r/seduction10/08/26 03:26 PM
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too long, didn't watch like got any summary you can give?
/r/seduction09/08/26 08:13 PM
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tl;dw?
/r/seduction09/08/26 06:58 PM
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bro has largely dogshit takes
/r/seduction09/08/26 06:43 PM
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you're stuck procrastinating. you're self-sabotaging. you're victimmaxxing and you need to stop acting like a lil bitch. no one is coming to fucking save you. if you want something, go get it. if other dudes can do it, why not you? you think you're the only guy who's short who doesn't get pussy? of course you're not. that's what I'd actually say. in terms of whether to cut or bulk, it really doesn't matter. if you're trying to look good naked as fast as possible the best thing to do would be to …
/r/seduction09/08/26 05:23 PM
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this is false and stupid. your face will look drastically different if you lose weight. what's your bf %? get down to where you can see your top abs and come back and tell me that you can't "change your face". bullshit. you can also change your style, clothes, haircut, get some sunglasses, etc. it's remarkably easy to change your face.
/r/seduction09/08/26 05:10 PM
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dude has perfected the art of saying nothing with a ton of words. it gets a bunch of upvotes cuz of all the dudes who get no action who feel bad about themselves and don't like that most guys are blunt in assessing their situation rather than do the therapy "look inward" bullshit
/r/seduction09/08/26 05:09 PM
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so many fucking posts in this sub are like this. just so much "woe is me" bullshit. dudes out here crying on their keyboard acting like the answers are some sort of mystery. it's pretty simple: get desirable get confident put shots on goal that's literally the whole thing
/r/seduction09/08/26 05:08 PM
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that's honestly pretty weird. you need to be filtering better on front end based on their profile.
/r/seduction09/08/26 01:01 AM
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probably because they didn't see that you're 5'6". most girls aren't paying for filters. if they're swiping mindlessly then they are really just looking at face and first picture. this happens with me. i'm not into tall girls, anything over like 5'9" is a no from me but I forget to filter on it constantly. I only will remember if they look unusually tall in their photos.since I'm tall, i get a disproportionate amount of tall girls liking me. it's possible that they just didn't notice cuz nothing…
/r/seduction09/08/26 12:47 AM
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you don't put anything. this is the biggest trap. you just leave it blank. girls know that it will effectively mean "short-term, open to long" but by not putting anything you give them plausible deniability. if it gets screenshot into the groupchat and it says "figuring out my dating goals" then you're getting clowned and she's getting roasted cuz she told them that she "only is interested in long-term". by putting nothing then you avoid all of this
/r/seduction09/08/26 12:35 AM
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6'2" attractive white guy and lol no. i mean there are some girls who have a profile that's very much signaling "im expensive and I expect princess treatment" but they're in the minority and easily filterable. I message them a few times, set a date near me for drinks (never dinner), and they comply. if they don't comply I just move on to the next one. I have literally infinite matches so there's no reason to collapse into their frame and fail the shit test. girls will do so much when they want y…
/r/seduction08/08/26 11:49 PM
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ya, sucks but this is how shit goes. what's happening is that women are evaluating against the given values and it's run in the background in terms of how others will perceive her. being short is an objective marker of low SMV. if you meet IRL then other stuff can rule it out but when it's right there staring you in the face then they can't ignore it. they're screenshotting your profile, dropping it in the groupchat and getting clowned for going for a guy that short. that's what they're protecti…
/r/seduction08/08/26 11:47 PM
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women can spell fear. you're limping into interactions expecting to get rejected. need to be confidence, with some swagger and dgaf energy
/r/seduction08/08/26 08:49 PM
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bro if you're so overwhelmed withe rejection sensitivity, you might be ADHD and need stimulants. could be absolutely gamechanging for you
/r/seduction08/08/26 08:48 PM
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ya 100%, dudes have been given shit advice for so long about what a date actually is and what you're trying to accomplish
/r/seduction07/08/26 02:46 PM
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ya, it's called "dual mating strategy"
/r/seduction07/08/26 01:46 AM
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there could be reasons why you aren't going to sleep with them. what if it's a weekday and both people need to get up early?
/r/seduction06/08/26 10:51 PM
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ya, photo booths are a cheat code for sure. nowadays people are so weird about making out in public, especially Gen-Z/Zillenials. I had a date recently where we were vibing and there was a photobooth. we made out and then I suggested we move to 2nd location that I had planned for us to go to and then she kinda just blurted out that we go back to my place instead
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:36 PM
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ya, you're the problem if this is your attitude
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:34 PM
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approach cuz it's fun to flirt and talk to girls. don't approach cuz it's an efficient way to get laid
/r/seduction04/08/26 07:23 PM
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wild! women want men to approach them so they can filter them and feel desired and pretty?!? fucking who knew??? if you are not an attractive and desirable man, then you don't count as a person and they do not want you to approach. that's why this little thing called "dating apps" existed so two people could secretly opt in without women being overwhelmed by interactions and men wouldn't have to get continually rejected and we could match everyone! my advice to you would be stop being ugly. can'…
/r/seduction04/08/26 07:22 PM
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just go say hey and start a convo with no expectations. no need to immediately push for the number or ask her out. it's fine to just talk. so much of the cold approach bs bleeds into normal life and people have lost the ability to just talk to be people like a normal human
/r/seduction04/08/26 03:25 PM
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you likely don't without a massive amount of changes in your life, which will be very uncomfortable
/r/seduction03/08/26 06:56 PM
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cold approach is in some ways dead, because basically if you're a hot guy you don't ever need to do it. you just swipe a few times on hinge and you have a roster of girls who are dtf all the time. just blast out a "wyd" to a few girls and wait for one to get back to you. what this causes is a situation where most of the people doing cold approach are disproportionately not Chads, which make women more on edge, and less likely to engage. But, at the same time, women don't like being on Chad's ros…
/r/seduction31/07/26 08:04 PM
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"shooters shoot"
/r/seduction30/07/26 04:10 PM
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lmfao. it's trivally easy to get female friends. all you have to do is ask to hang out with them, get coffee/macha/tea and then let them yap about whatever is going on in their life and say "damn, that sounds really hard" they will think you're a god if you do this
/r/seduction30/07/26 03:36 PM
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can cut both ways
/r/seduction29/07/26 09:39 PM
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depends a lot on the hostel. the "party hostels" are ones with a pool and a bar. they attract the crowd. idk, i've never been to them. i can't tell you how easy they are or how ugly/beta you can be and still pull but I'd say it's got to be pretty easy. doesn't get much easier than at a place where girls are on a trip, away from any friends who might judge them, where lots of alcohol and late night convos happen
/r/seduction29/07/26 09:29 PM
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depends a lot on the hostel. the "party hostels" are ones with a pool and a bar. they attract the crowd. idk, i've never been to them. i can't tell you how easy they are or how ugly/beta you can be and still pull but I'd say it's got to be pretty easy. doesn't get much easier than at a place where girls are on a trip, away from any friends who might judge them, where lots of alcohol and late night convos happen
/r/seduction29/07/26 09:29 PM
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anywhere there are lots of "backpackers" of early 20s people traveling looking for a party staying in hostels, etc is about as easy as it gets. the only thing is logistics cuz if you're in a dorm room you might be fucking her in the janitor's closet
/r/seduction29/07/26 09:20 PM
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ya, I can relate. I kinda was that to some degree when I was younger. would say shocking things to get to a rise out of people, control the conversation by being the one always talking, etc.
/r/seduction29/07/26 01:55 PM
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ya, this guy kinda seems like a "shock and awe" kinda guy who only has one move in his playbook: come in, steal all the attention, and hope for the best
/r/seduction28/07/26 10:57 PM
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ya, sounds like this dude is a bit of a clown coming in hot and blowing up the spot for everyone. he's obviously not an asset
/r/seduction28/07/26 10:56 PM
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People don't say "if she wanted to, she would" cuz there's not a chance that if you text her she might respond but it's just a filtering mechanism. In a world of literally unlimited options, it doesn't make sense to chase girls that aren't 100% into you and are chasing you. Sure, you could text any number of girls and a lot of them would text you back cuz girls are anxious as fuck and love attention. Most of the time though, it's not that you misread the situation. On the whole, it's better to m…
/r/seduction28/07/26 08:47 PM
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depends entirely on the situation. if the situation is what you've described, where things fizzle and you're reaching back out, then that's starting a new convo, that's not double texting. a lot of guys are really insecure about "double texting" or looking needy, and think that girls are getting their message and thinking "wow, look at this loser coming crawling back to me hahaha" when that's not really true. she might be secretly hoping that you text her, or she might be not thinking of you, bu…
/r/seduction28/07/26 06:29 PM
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ya, really young girls who are not as confident and sure of themselves might do this. I feel like this goes away when they're more in their early 20s and their friends are dating guys with a wider age range. if they're in college and all their friend's bfs are also 19 and they say they're dating a 35 year old guy then people will think that's weird
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:52 PM
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it's more about life stage and how you look for sure. if you're in shape, take care of yourself, have good skin/hair then you can pull young girls as long as you want. the more money you have it makes it easier for sure and as you get older you kinda have to conciously have younger friends cuz most people your age will be married with kids but that's different.
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:51 PM
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ya 100%. dating apps have reduced any kinda stigma around this kinda stuff. I'm 33 and match with girls who are as young as 22 but I'm sure I could go even lower. I just don't wanna be with a girl who's in college. that sounds weird to me
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:49 PM
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you're going too young. no 25 year old girls wants to fuck with a 21 year old guy when they can get with 30+ year old guys
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:47 PM
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you're going too young. no 25 year old girls wants to fuck with a 21 year old guy when they can get with 30+ year old guys
/r/seduction28/07/26 02:47 PM
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ok lil buddy
/r/seduction27/07/26 05:45 PM
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doctors do not ever test for herpes! doing a "complete panel" doesn't mean you don't have herpes or HSV. idk what is wrong with your little head but I'm done with this shit cuz I can't take it any more
/r/seduction27/07/26 04:08 PM
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you got tested against your medical provider's recommendation? lol ok buddy
/r/seduction27/07/26 03:54 PM
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lol you would never know cuz no one tests for it. you can't test for it cuz the tests are bad and you can only test when you're actively inflammed
/r/seduction27/07/26 01:03 AM
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how so? you can have type 2 and it not be inflamed. you can also have type 1 that is transmitted sexually
/r/seduction26/07/26 07:11 PM
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no, that's me
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:51 PM
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ya nearly everyone has herpes and HSV
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:51 PM
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HIV is so insanely difficult to contract if you're a guy who just fucks women
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:51 PM
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you almost certainly have herpes cuz almost everyone does
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:51 PM
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I think so much of it is high base stats and confidence, and then that gives you the ability to adapt. SO MANY fucking dudes get no girls and won't do even the like most simple shit like changing their haircut, updating their Hinge profile, learning a little bit about fashion, etc. it's like they have this weird block where they don't want to "change who they are" but I'm like buddy, you literally said you want to change who you are and get women to like you. what you got going on isn't working …
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:50 PM
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ya, this is true but most guys don't really know how attractive they could be cuz they've never lifted weights, gotten a haircut their mom didn't pick out, and dress modestly well
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:48 PM
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ya, for most people it's honestly innate. for me it's mostly just having super high base stats from the jump. height, high testosterone, good muscle insertion, broad frame, extroversion are all genetic. from there you layer on confidence cuz i get results so why wouldn't i be confident? I'm actually not as experience as I look cuz I was raised religious and I have to actively try to portray myself as less of a player than it appear that I am.
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:47 PM
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when you're young girls are mostly filtering on "is this guy a good time?" also when you're young and no one has accomplished anything confidence is a good proxy for competence. overtime it becomes a worse proxy. For guys that do get a lot of girls early that can give them the confidence and it can carry them forward. they're also just more experience providing the overall experience that a lot of women desire
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:45 PM
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hey! a lot of us grew up in a highly insecure family which caused us to have to develop a personality and humor
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:42 PM
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the only thing you can do is just put yourself out there more and more in small steps. literally exposure therapy. just start talking to people walking around. start with the least intimidating person like some old grandma or something. you can practice hitting on old ladies cuz they're not gunna reject you. from there just take a step up little by little. oh, and stop being a bitch
/r/seduction25/07/26 10:56 PM
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you need to stop thinking that you lost it cuz of something you did or didn't do. it's nothing you did, it's all about her. the reason it didn't work out is cuz she's not into you enough. the right girl will stay and be obsessed with you
/r/seduction25/07/26 10:53 PM
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hmmm ok, 4/5 = .8x100 = 80% but apparently that's not how it works.
/r/seduction25/07/26 10:42 PM
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lol oh ok, so a 80% success rate is too low for you?
/r/seduction25/07/26 08:51 PM
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you gay or something?
/r/seduction25/07/26 07:48 PM
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i can assure you this is not "incel shit". In my last lil time on dating apps thinking about this stuff this way I went on 5 dates hooked up with 4/5 so maybe just say thanks for the insight and move on
/r/seduction25/07/26 07:38 PM
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the first date is about physical attraction, not about what you're saying. it's not an interview, it's a vibe check. also, you're really not being pragmatic about what the first few dates are even about. the question that both sides are asking is "Do I want to have sex with this person?" Most people have already checked this box before they get to the date, cuz most guys don't waste time with girls they don't want to fuck. Girls are very different. So, what are we doing here then? We're trying t…
/r/seduction25/07/26 07:12 PM
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I think you've got some things true and other things false. black women out-earn and have much higher rates of college degrees black women have less paternal involvement and more of a collective thought on raising children the black men who are doing really well are super scarse, and therefore able to have a few babymommas they support. for all of these factors, for a lot of women, it's a more effective strategy to just focus on a transcational relationship rather than holding out for a true equ…
/r/seduction24/07/26 10:01 PM
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i feel like this is some shit my grandma would say most women don't want you to know where they live it's simp behavior it gives subtle pressure that you're gunna drop her off at her place at the end she's a grown ass woman who can figure out her own transportation it honestly just makes no fucking sense if we live 30mins apart and we meet in between you think it makes sense for the man to drive 30+15+30 mins instead of just 15+15? no she doesn't need to see your car yet having the first interac…
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:40 PM
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bro how fucking broke are you lmfao
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:37 PM
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nope, the opposite. you're planning the date, you pick wherever you want. ideally make it close to your place so you're able to go back to yours if things escalate. also you need to make sure she actually likes you. if you make it so easy for her to do everything you'll never know if she actually wants you
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:36 PM
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the only correct first dates is drinks, at night, at a bar where you can sit next to her, not across from her
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:35 PM
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coffee is horrible bro. absolutely not. drink or nothing
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:35 PM
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since you said it... it does seem like black women have extremely high standards for financial support from men. idk why exactly that is, or where it comes from but the "sprinkle sprinkle" girl being black for sure doesn't help
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:34 PM
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"no broke boys, no new friends" lol this is her way of softly rejecting you. she's like "I don't really wanna go but if you get me an Uber I'll come" it depends on where you are tho and how much money you have. I've heard some NYC guys who make good money who are all about sending girls Ubers to the date cuz then it insures they actually come and don't flake, and an uber is not much in the grand scheme of a NYC date.
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:32 PM
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would highly recommend reading No More Mr. Nice Guy. it likely will change your life. but in short stop apologizing for your own wants/needs. never let anyone shame you for what you want as long as you're honest and not deceptive. women say they want nice guys but they don't. They want strong men who stand up to people, enforce boundaries, and get what they want. she's thinking subconsciously "if he lets me walk all over him, then how is he going to defend me?"
/r/seduction24/07/26 05:27 PM
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ya, this is just defeatism. you are not understanding what women are getting when they are engaging in casual sex. you think that they're just getting the actual sex act, so if they can get that from anyone, they'll just go get it from someone else who's better at sex or more attractive. once you have sex with a woman, she is going to be biologically more attached to her due to the greater release of oxytocin by women during sex and the fact that testosterone actually blocks oxytocin from bindin…
/r/seduction24/07/26 03:47 PM
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ya exactly, that's what I'm assuming here too. what issues have you run into?
/r/seduction24/07/26 02:23 PM
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"you're hot, wanna fuck?"
/r/seduction24/07/26 02:01 PM
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she's not confident and too scared. or she wants attention but is afraid of getting intimate cuz that means you might reject her after getting to know her which is worse
/r/seduction24/07/26 02:01 PM
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you should always been dating multiple women. you need to be honest but not overshare. women assume that you're dating other women cuz they would never want to be with a loser who can't get other hoes. you show her with your actions where she ranks in the stack. some women will be cool with it and some will be a problem. if they're a problem the drop them and get another one. that's the benefit of having options. if she asks for clarity then be honest with her. never lie but never overshare eith…
/r/seduction24/07/26 02:00 PM
1

i think you've missed what he's actually saying
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:59 PM
1

fuck her and her parents. you don't need them. you can replace her. if she'll willing to end things cuz of what her parents think then she doesn't love you
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:58 PM
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it's not that hard, just talk about whatever you want. the convo should be easy and natural. alcohol helps. move locations, hold her hand, sit on the same side as her, etc. if it feels like an interview you're doing it wrong. also you shouldn't intentionally hold back. she'll sense this that you're "not being vulnerable" and that will cause her to shutdown. you want to share honestly but not overshare and trauma dump. people who share will leave her coming back for more. you can't ever run out o…
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:57 PM
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how are these failing and what do you tell her? ya, obviously if she wants a LTR and you don't then you can't keep her around forever. the goal should be to be honest with her and find someone who's ok with that. you have to be pretty explicit and clear with her and then not give in when she throws a fit
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:54 PM
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most girls don't want to be approached at the grocery store for you to just immediately ask for her number. if you see some girl you think is pretty and she seems receptive then ask her a dumb question about whatever she's staring at. make small talk. see where it goes. if she's receptive then say "I think I've seen you here before, do you live around here?" Just start the convo and build from there.
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:52 PM
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this is cuz most guys are trying to be nice guys. you think that if you're nice she'll be nice to you. you do that and then she's still a bitch, cheats on you, doesn't respect you, etc. you have to realize that you need to stand up to the world and get what you want
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:49 PM
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insane levels of victimhood and fatalism. you for sure can level yourself up, get attractive, get confident, and get a girl. autistic girls need love too man
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:50 PM
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diagnostic criteria expanded it entered the common lexicon it does really explain a phenomenon of being weird af easier to say "I have a medical condition" than take ownership and do you best to work with what you got dudes just want an excuse to spend more money on trains and pokemon cards
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:38 PM
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bro the SSRIs are numbing the pain rather than helping you fix the problem that shit is bad for you unless you've got like severe OCD or panic disorders
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:36 PM
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ya, "male pattern depression" is a thing that's starting to become more recognized. most men do not get the "saddness, grief, crying, hopelessness, wishing you were dead" type of depression and more of just feeling numb, aimless, drifting, reclusive, etc.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:36 PM
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ya, this is called "compliance for closeness" or "appeasement"
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:14 PM
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you trying to dump her and then she saying that she would be fine with a FWB when she really isn't. that's classic anxious attachment when they set a boundary and you agreeing and then they immediately collapse and acquiescing to what you want even though they don't want that. they're choosing proximity over their own happiness and then resentment builds cuz in her mind there's this implicit contract of "if I give him FWB then he'll eventually give me more"
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:42 PM
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ya, you have to have some sort of external off ramp to really make it work unfortunately unless you have a very sexually free woman. attachment is likely and there's just so much pressure around women not to be able to just enjoy sex as fun that she'll be pushing for more or leave you. some women try to use a "dual mating strategy" where they're fucking one guy while they try to find their husband but that never works cuz if she's fucking you consistently it's going to be very hard for her to be…
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:18 PM
13

most women will not just immediately come to your place for safety concerns. they prefer to set up a real date, grab a drink, etc.
/r/seduction23/07/26 03:22 PM
6

lol this is not a FWB. also that's classic anxious attachment protest behavior
/r/seduction23/07/26 03:21 PM
7

FWBs are extremely unstable relationships and they aren't a common experience or typical expectation tbh
/r/seduction23/07/26 03:21 PM
1

idk if you can say "most women are the opposite". most women have different thresholds for sleeping with a guy based on what they're interested in because her openness for sex is a signal. she'll fuck some random dude on vacation cuz she doesn't care about what she thinks of him. the actual terms are spontaneous vs responsive desire. women experience more responsive deisre but you really need a strong baseline desire. that's kinda a different thing entirely. A woman can really want to fuck her m…
/r/seduction23/07/26 02:53 PM
1

because women are taught that they can't express their desire directly, that they need to make the man chase. so if the girl really likes you, then she'll play games and make you earn it. if she didn't like you then she'll just fuck you and then ignore you. but this makes you think that you just need to try harder. and it also layers on top that women are told that it's ok if they're not into a guy, that they'll develop attraction over time
/r/seduction22/07/26 04:32 PM
0

this is a deeply flawed and toxic ideology. "Aimless connection and communication is actually the sickness" is a disgusting statement when you meet someone for the first time to be friends, there is no "goal". you don't say "hey man, I just want be up front and clear on my intentions. I'm looking for a Best Man. If that's not what you're looking for right now that's cool with me, i just wanted you to know. connection is the goal. companionship, sex, excitement, dopamine, a fun time, practice, et…
/r/seduction21/07/26 05:47 PM
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no, this is just wrong. the man is not the leader of the relationship, unless you want to ascribe to a traditional gender roles framework. men do serve as the pursuer and can be the leader of the relationship in the beginning, but this is more of a mating ritual than something set in stone. women need to assert themselves and use the agency they have. men are not in control of women's actions or their feelings. a relationship is not "two people working towards a common goal" a relationship, is j…
/r/seduction20/07/26 11:54 PM
2

my point is that YOU stayed in a bad relationship hoping he would change. YOU have agency. YOU can leave. YOU can ask more questions. YOU can decide for yourself if the relationship is working for you. Idk wtf "leading on" even means. Lying and cheating is obviously wrong but it should never even get that far. If you're with someone who continually refuses to engage in difficult conversations then LEAVE. You are not in a workable relationship. idk what or how he "avoided difficult conversations"…
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:25 PM
2

"Men are initiators woman are reciprocator." this is false and it's a belief that is doing you a lot of harm. if you think that it's his job to lead you and the entire relationship forever you'll always be miserable. you have agency, you can leave, you can ask questions, you can figure things on your own. you're a big girl
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:08 PM
2

i can clearly see how your relationship didn't work out
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:50 PM
2

never did I say who's fault it is. it's completely irrelevant. you seeking to be a victim or show him as bad is not going to serve you. take ownership for your own agency and the choices that you made
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:42 PM
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if you're with someone who is a bad communicator and is unwilling to address problems in a constructive way then leave. you chose to stay. him lying and cheating is obviously immoral but you have agency here. you could've left and you stayed.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:33 PM
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yup, women have agency. they are free to do whatever they want. they can ask the questions, push for clarity, etc. you as the man just need to be open and honest but you don't need to try to read her mind, figure out what she wants, and then save her from herself
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:25 PM
2

this is most often the because the woman is not willing to have hard conversations, instead just trying to change the man
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:23 PM
1

nope, women have agency too. if you're been clear on your intentions and she's unhappy then that's on her.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:22 PM
2

"women get more emotionally involved and it is very hard for them to move on" is false. women are more emotionally in tune and expressive but they get over things quicker. men feel less in the moment but suffer for months or years afterward
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:20 PM
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apps are an efficient market, you're not gunna find some hidden gem just like if a car is on autotrader that's a lot different than if you find something under a tarp in someone's garage.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:17 PM
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you've got it figured out. cold approach gets pushed in these types of circles cuz the dudes that are here are largely ones where traditional paths aren't working. also, if you approach 1000 women one at least will sleep with you. if you swipe on 1000 women nothing is guranteed and it often makes your profile worse, not better. if you cold approach you'll eventually get better at it. there's also this dynamic where people are saying they're "done with dating apps" so the idea of cold approach se…
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:15 PM
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you have no idea what you're talking about. go to a socially conservative place like the American South and you'll see exactly what I described.
/r/seduction17/07/26 01:47 AM
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not if you're already hot
/r/seduction15/07/26 12:49 AM
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6'1" and have fluctuated from 165 to 225 as an adult. as someone who's tall with broad shoulders, confident, and is willing to shoot shots I found that being fatter didn't really affect my ability to pull but it did affect how I thought about myself in my head. when I recently decided to get my shit together and start working out I dropped from 225 to 185 and put on a ton of muscle too and my confidence was through the roof for a guy who usually "had a big head". I was for first time in my entir…
/r/seduction15/07/26 12:33 AM
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I haven't dated that much around in age yet but ya I mean obviously women peak in looks at ~22 scientifically based on studies with men but girls can still remain being hot into their mid 30s if they take care of themselves (workout, botox, filler, etc) women who are older generally seem to be more grounded and less crazy. 23 year old are fun, dumb, and hot but they're also more likely to be annoying and clingy. they also are more likely to expect you to pay for everything compared to older wome…
/r/seduction15/07/26 12:27 AM
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entirely depends on the age/stage. ya if they're younger and aren't marriage-minded then ya, they could get the pull of freedom and if you're not funding a luxury lifestyle then she could get jealous of her friends flying around the country doing whatever they want and get bored
/r/seduction15/07/26 12:24 AM
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ya, you have no idea what large portions of the US dating scene is like, which is the dominant population on this subreddit. the idea that any girl who isn't a "shameless slut" is therefore bad in bed is also wildly inaccurate. in many parts of the us if you were to filter solely for willingness to engage in casual sex upon the first encounter you'd be filtering out a massive % of the population. and also, this isn't just for casual sex we're talking about here. the girl that you end up dating l…
/r/seduction15/07/26 12:17 AM
1

do you ever see her on the weekend at the gym? it's a bit difficult to go from the gym to do something else cuz you're sweaty and gross but that would be the ideal thing.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:28 PM
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oh ya, for sure want to be diplomatic
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:27 PM
1

ya, I said in my post that this will differ wildly depending on where you are from and the culture that you are apart of. In the US I've found that women that are more progressive will maybe be ok taking some agency in terms of approaching guys, making the first move, paying occasionally, etc. but not 100%. They may say that they want you to ask before kissing them, but they are not immune to the little voice in the back of their head saying "don't be a slut". Idk what Scandi girls are like, it …
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:20 PM
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of course every generalization is going to come with a qualifier with "most of the time". this sub (and the whole internet) is US-centric. If you're from Norway y'all have the most progressive culture in terms of sex and dating, so it's that your experience is the anomaly here.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:16 PM
1

"agency" means your ability to achieve something. Someone who is high agency is taking control of their life instead of letting stuff happen to them.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:14 PM
1

never ask for her LinkedIn, you've now just downgraded the convo and confused her. you now have made it seem like you wanted to connect professionally
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:13 PM
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yep, 100%. One girl that I ended up dating did this whole song and dance. "We can ride back in the Uber together cuz we live nearby" "we can hangout but nothing is gunna happen" (making out on the couch half naked) "it's getting late, we should go to bed but we're not gunna have sex" (going down on her) "ok, I want to have sex"
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:02 PM
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ya, so my point is that with women there is always going to be some amount of plausible deniability for the story in her head or for the group chat. "we went back to his place cuz he said he wanted to show me his Pokemon collection... and then one thing led to another and we fucked" will always be a better story in her head than how two gay men talk about sex on Grindr
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:59 PM
4

so you're saying to women "I would like to go home and have sex now. Are you in?" and they say, "sure, that sounds great. I would like to engage in sex with you." ok, sure...
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:41 PM
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trying to fuck her in the bathroom right after meeting her is not at all what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a natural escalation, but she really wants more of a smooth path to the finish line. I'm not sure what you would say is an example of women doing it "the right way" in your mind? I have only experience one time in my entire life where a girl was determined and clear on exactly her intentions were and not trying to create a narrative in her head.
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:34 PM
1

i don't get it, did you ask for her number and she said no? then you got her LinkedIn instead? it's hard to say what went wrong cuz we weren't there and body language does a lot of work
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:06 PM
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no, fuck her. tell her that you heard she posted you on that group and you don't appreciate it and won't be seeing her again cuz relationships are built on trust and this is not how you build trust or some shit
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:02 PM
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there's nothing you can do and it doesn't really matter cuz the girls aren't doing anything productive anyways. from talking to a girl I went on a date with, she explained why these groups don't work the way guys fear. If someone posts you fishing for "tea" a lot of girls who are your friends will jump in and defend you, even if you aren't amazing. girls don't want to see guys lives ruined unless they're really shitty. they are aware that most girls that post in these groups are a mess so most w…
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:01 PM
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ya, you're probably reading things correctly that she's open to something more, but it's kinda a hard jump from here to there. you wanna ask her to do something where you frame it as something casual that you're already doing and ask her to come along. ideally this would be at night, and with a group of friends so she can have plausible deniability that you two aren't doing things 1:1. I'd say night, cuz you want to translate things to sex and "I was drinking and got caught up in the moment" is …
/r/seduction13/07/26 04:31 PM
1

lol what? you're saying that because I'm 33 you think I'm only dating girls who are in their 30s and they are all "washed"? My range on Hinge is set from 22 - 35 and I match with girls from across that age band all the time. The girls that I hooked up with were 23, 29, 31, and 26. Some girls in their 30s are for sure washed but a lot of them take their appearance seriously and are hot though.
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:48 PM
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depends on the age of the girl I guess and also depends on how you play things. when you are saying "first couple dates" are you saying sex or no? if no, then ya girls are happy to go on dates with no sex cuz it's just free entertainment and costs them nothing. after sex, things change and she's generally gunna be more invested in trying to keep you. but ya, for sure things can naturally fizzle after sex but what I'm saying is that for a high value man who's continuing to pursue her, she's going…
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:45 PM
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i don't really get this perspective. keeping girls is insanely easy. most girls want a boyfriend
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:59 AM
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ya, 33M who's tall, attractive, good job, etc and it's like shooting fish in a barrel. I have a ridiculous number of likes on Hinge, match with almost every girl I like, and have a very strong conversion rate from date to sex.
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:58 AM
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ya, that's a trend for sure if you look at celebs. people having children and being monogamous but not married although this seems to mostly be a money thing.
/r/seduction12/07/26 03:38 AM
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obviously if you're in a healthy and happy marriage and everything is awesome then of fucking course you wouldn't blow it up to just chase whores. water is wet.
/r/seduction11/07/26 07:51 PM
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it's really interesting and something that I've gone down the ADHD rabbit hole on. biologically men want sex about every 2-3 days if healthy, women experience spontaneous desire for sex more like 1-2 months, mostly around their ovulation window if they're not on birth control. in the beginning of the relationship sex clusters more around the man's preference and over time slides more towards the woman's preference. biologically for women the decline is explained by pregnancy/lactation suppressio…
/r/seduction11/07/26 07:50 PM
2

if you ask them in a survey if they are happy then of course they'll say they're happy. they have achieved what culture says they should achieve: wife, house, 2 kids, golden retriever, etc. men are less likely than women to really evaluate their feelings so they'll say they're happy on the surface but then if you start to pull on threads you'll see that they really aren't happy. objective metrics like "how often do you have sex?" show that there are LOTS of broken marriages where people don't ha…
/r/seduction11/07/26 07:12 PM
1

something that I've been thinking a lot about is that we're going to move more to the idea that serial monogamy is the default state and not the idea that "marriage is forever" like we had in the past. just look at what celebs do and that's the future for everyone else. there's millions of unsatisfied men in miserable marriages but they don't feel like they can leave cuz of the social optics.
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:51 PM
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plenty of people get married young when they aren't sure what they want, and marry the wrong person, or under the guise that marriage is something that it's not
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:49 PM
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lots of "happy marriages" with miserable people in them
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:48 PM
1

sex for women early on in a relationship is really not a "did you cum?" kinda thing. a lot of them don't want the pressure of trying to cum with a new guy and most don't cum from a new guy, not to mention the fact that 25% of women are on SSRIs. "good" sex is more about her feeling desired, respected, etc. are you listening to her body, did you not rush to penetration, etc. i think part of it is just that a lot of relationships fizzle in the dates 3-6 spot. it's fine for things to fizzle and you…
/r/seduction10/07/26 06:40 PM
1

sure thing man, happy to critique a specific profile if you wanna DM
/r/seduction10/07/26 04:33 PM
1

you're saying you're get past the point of sleeping with her and then she ditches you? that's pretty strange tbh. that's the time when most women's investment and interest is at it's highest. It could be an age thing or you could be just bad at sex? lol idk. I mean if you're signaling bf energy and these girls are younger and not wanting that, then maybe you're smothering them and the sex isn't good enough for them to see you as the casual sex guy. do you have multiple girls you're evaluating at…
/r/seduction10/07/26 04:09 PM
1

ya the gym as a place you repeatedly see the person means you should be a bit more slow into it. no need to just immediately ask for her number and ask her on a date. start out by just chatting with her, build some rapport over time cuz it'll be awkward if you come in too strong and things blowup
/r/seduction10/07/26 04:00 PM
2

lmfao "clutched"
/r/seduction10/07/26 03:46 PM
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girls don't really run away from guys unless they're too intimidated. it can happen for sure when girls feel way out of their depth and not used to being the dominant one. like if a girl is a 7/10 but she's the only single girl in a group and there's a 9/10 dude she's going to feel uncomfortable and her friends might try to push her to strut or even approach
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:07 AM
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girls are often intimidated by really hot guys cuz they're not used to approaching and showing interest and also if they're too forward in showing interest it collapses their position. girls want guys to chase THEM so if they come across super forward then they lose. that's why for most girls the dominant strategy is to peacock by being the hottest girl in the bar and being seen and then signaling being available to him, not all the other losers. this is why girls will make eye contact with you …
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:05 AM
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the issue is that back in the day you really could just wear her down and eventually get the girl. then you date for a couple months and lock her into a marriage she can't get out of.
/r/seduction08/07/26 03:40 PM
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lol what? this is such a wild question, everything about it. I think it'd be normal to bring a bottle of wine if she's providing some snacks or something. what other gift would you bring?
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:41 PM
1

im just saying that your advice is not for this situation
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:02 PM
5

bro this is not that. bro had her already at his place and he just never even made a move. like shooting fish in a barrel
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:56 PM
4

how the fuck did you mess this up?
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:55 PM
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lol bro this is insane. she literally told you she just broke up, doesn't wants something serious, and asked to go back to your place and you still messed it up? that's a generational level fumble
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:54 PM
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idk, it's hard to explain. you can't really teach flirting. it's about confidence, how you stand, eye contact, pauses, delivery, etc. it's like comedy. it could be teasing, that's a lot easier to teach. or it's also about throwing something out there in the air and just letting her chew on it. I was on a date with a girl and i didn't think it was going that good. my hinge profile is really flirty and not serious. i have a thing on there about dancefloor makeouts. we go to another bar and she wan…
/r/seduction07/07/26 03:40 PM
2

it's a lot easier to critique than to write a generic guide. a few tips I would say have good photos. it's literally all about good photos. photos to have: 1st photo needs to be of you at dinner or a bar, can clearly see your face, and you should look good. she needs a clear picture of what you would look like on a date so she can envision herself there a full body photo a photo in a suit a photo doing a hobby thing one with friends or family for "social proof". this is super important. a lot of…
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:13 PM
1

this is a very autistic take
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:06 PM
1

im 33 lol
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:05 PM
1

girls fuck guys <6ft all the time lol most dudes have terrible profiles and put zero effort into getting better photos the bar is literally on the floor. most guys could easily improve their profile substantially with a tiny bit of effort
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:05 PM
1

lol no, not at all
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:01 PM
8

so step one is "don't be autistic" most of this sub in shambles lol
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:47 PM
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it really is so strange that a dominant % of the posts are here are from dudes who read some book, then decided that all they needed to do was approach 10k women and it would work out while saying the magic words.
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:46 PM
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absolutely. I never really understood this until recently but life is way better if you just interact with people who are nice and open to being interacted with. ya, it's seems crazy but true. if you smile, wave, make eye contact, make a lil comment, you get a lot of data about the state the other person is in and if they're open to chatting. this is like when you're on the phone you say "hello?...hello" to establish the handshake and connection.
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:46 PM
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ya, flirting is supposed to happen naturally but it's a pretty unique thing. flirting is a valuable signal because it's not teachable/gamable. what she's calibrating is how in tune you are with social dynamics? how do you handle light rejection and playful push/pull? flirting exists on the edge of social acceptability just like comedy. if it's too forceful it's awkward and if it's too subtle it won't be seen as flirting. it's also a way to signal availability and openess without committing onese…
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:16 PM
2

I get what you're saying, but flirting seems different. I think you need to watch it in action and even still I think this is something most people either have or don't. really never seen anyone "develop" the ability to flirt later in life.
/r/seduction29/06/26 05:12 PM
1

the right kind of experience. you could walk up to 10k women and say "you're hot, wanna fuck?" and get some conversions but that doesn't teach you anything about flirting
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:41 PM
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if you need to put up that many shots, it's better to just work on yourself and level up
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:40 PM
2

"I can't flirt" and "I have maybe mild autism" had me lol'ing. brother you have got more than a lil 'tism for sure. flirting is really hard to teach. most learn it in middle school. it's also just less necessary when you can just escalate physically. I would say that teasing is a bit easier than flirting, also just using a lot of sarcasm. I'd also say that it requires taking risks, saying things that are a bit unhinged. I'm ADHD and not OCD and I'm a flirt-god. my brother OTOH is more OCD/ASD an…
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:40 PM
1

brutal results
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:37 PM
1

it's not, just letting him know
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:32 PM
1

i mean, it's pretty typical that there's a lil bit of strategy talk beforehand. if you're talking to some girl and you can tell she's not into you, then you gotta let it go and move on. if she ends up with your buddy then that's a bit annoying but you can't let it affect you. you gotta work with the situation. like ya, I wouldn't recommend approaching a group of girls with your buddy at the same time if you know he's gunna mog and just soak up all the attention
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:28 PM
1

i have a lot of thoughts but haven't sat down wrote out a whole guide
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:26 PM
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or OP can just accept where he's at in the hierarchy and use that too his advantage. stop shooting for the stars and then letting his buddy swoop in afterwards. talk to him ahead of time and identify targets where there's a hot girl and then also some friends OP is interested in. then they work together. or if OP's buddy just swoops in and pulls with ease on his own, tell his buddy's girl to help you out and find a girl for him. most of the time if you're not weird this works. girls love being a…
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:47 PM
2

no fucking way I'd ever let this fly as a guy who is often mogging. lil bro needs to accept his position in on the totem pole. if my buddy had not chance called the hottest girl in the bar it's bad form and accomplishes nothing.
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:43 PM
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what? OP shoots his shot on a girl clearly not into him and he has no chance and his buddy captialized. idk what is "against bro code" here. we don't have the full story but bro code would typically have both guys talk beforehand and OP would defer to his buddy cuz he moggs. then he'd take the scraps and they'd work together. sounds more like OP doesn't know how to utilize having an attractive friend with you. just cuz he may get first pick doesn't mean she doesn't have friends.
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:41 PM
2

lmfao, he clearly is competing with his buddy if he's out together and he's continually losing girls to him. stupid feel good bullshit
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:39 PM
-1

I'm that dude so don't have this problem. well in my earlier years my buddies pulled more but it was cuz I was very selective
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:38 PM
1

30+ is not a big deal. i'm 33 and slay from girls 22 to 40. ya, it's for sure harder as an indian dude but you still can be successful. your bigger issue is with your parents lol
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:29 PM
0

exactly, they always want to shift you to someone else
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:28 PM
2

happy to provide specific recs here or over DM. my hinge profile gets me flooded with girls
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:28 PM
1

ya, i specifically say that my comments refer to "talk therapy", which is by far the most common for of therapy. yes, there are different types. I've heard those can be a lot better and actually focused on fixing your issues instead of being just a weekly yap session
/r/seduction27/06/26 11:27 PM
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ya, i don't understand how anyone can be as great as this guy claims but get no attention on dating apps. it's so strange that most men are so adverse to improving their profile. i really don't get it. dudes will spend hours reading a book on game but won't spend 10 mins to improve their profile or take better photos. it's seriously the best ROI ever.
/r/seduction27/06/26 04:46 PM
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you don't need to go to therapy to work on these issues. generic talk therapy is really not very good for most men. it's very female-coded and they are not there to help you "fix" anything. all they do is reflect back what you say to them. they don't want to say anything that could get them sued. it can be helpful for people that have a hard time identifying their own issues but if this dude has been in therapy for 3 years it's clearly not working
/r/seduction27/06/26 04:45 PM
1

almost certainly you can improve your dating app if you're as great as you claim and legit getting nothing
/r/seduction27/06/26 04:43 PM
1

you are talking about presenting yourself as confident, and I'm talking about something entirely different. men absolutely need to have multiple options to avoid one-itis. it's not even debatable
/r/seduction27/06/26 03:12 AM
1

the state of mind has to come from reality. you don't have an abundance mindset from hypothetically having lots of options. you have abundance from actually having a lot of options. I've seen this first hand in my life.
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:49 PM
1

so strange, I've heard that Tinder is used by quite a lot of people. I even follow a PUA type dude who is an American but lives in Barcelona and he meets tons of girls on apps all the time. How do people "meet through instagram"? I've never understood how this works. you just slide into the DMs of the hot girls you see on your For You page?
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:46 PM
1

this is just the wrong mindset. idk, maybe is a European thing but in the US everyone uses Hinge. Hinge somehow cracked the code of getting people to see it as "the serious one" so it's for sure a hookup app, but there are a lot of girls on there that would never be on Tinder cuz Tinder is seen as just the hookup one. are there no apps that have a reputation as more for actual relationships? In the US there are tons. Hinge is the biggest but also Bumble, Raya, Cuffed , etc all serve the audience…
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:32 PM
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no this isn't true at all. why are you here?
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:29 PM
1

this dude is a troll. comes on here to ridicule people for getting girls. probably some religious trad
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:28 PM
1

so in your mind it's cool to fake abundance but it's not ok to actually have it?
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:28 PM
2

this sub seems to have a weird anti-app bias for some reason, idk why but it's the obvious answer. if you are tall, attractive, and put any effort in you'll be flooded with girls.
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:27 PM
2

apps man apps create a ridiculous level of abundance if you truly are as attractive and desirable as you say. how many? I'd say that you should have AT LEAST two girls you're actively evaluating to creat an abundance mindset. Having a rosters of girls who are just hookups doesn't create the same mindset IMHO. ya, cold approach is wack tbh. especially if you set out with the explicit goal of cold approaching. if you just happen to come across them in your normal life then that's different. you do…
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:26 PM
1

just cuz texting is hard to analyze doesn't mean that it's worthless and unsolvable. texting as a medium doesn't give you a lot of data about her and so trying to guess what's going on in her head is going to be a lot harder for sure, but it's still a valuable tool and you absolutely can preform game over text
/r/seduction24/06/26 06:57 PM
1

ya, the best move is to just immediately propose a date. after you've done the first message to just establish the connection. you want to be specific. "hey, wanna grab drinks at Manny's on Thursday? 8PM work?" if you're specific then she can't wiggle out, she has to provide an answer to your request. also girls like this way more. it shows confidence and initiative. I wouldn't call them to "plan the date". If you're calling them you should be asking them in the same manner as above.
/r/seduction24/06/26 06:56 PM
1

this isn't true at all. of course warmth isn't an ick for women, it's one of the things they desire the most lol
/r/seduction24/06/26 06:52 PM
1

ya, lol no girl will ever go for that if you said it out loud. it's kinda an issue where men if they could wave a magic wand would choose casual and consistent with one girl but no commitment and the ability to fuck other girls if they feel like it. but then women are going to develop feels due to biology if you're just consistency hooking up with the same girl over a long time and will want it to become something more due to social pressure. Sounds like you do have some issues to work through i…
/r/seduction24/06/26 05:18 PM
1

ya, texting is a core skill in dating but a lot of coaches and other dudes shy away from teaching it cuz it's harder to teach. most default to just saying shit like "be aloof, don't say much, get them in person" cuz they're worried about guys screwing things up but you can really build a lot of rapport and have texting work in your favor
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:11 PM
1

bro wtf are you doing, you should be totally fine. If you wanted to DM me your profile I could give you some pointers
/r/seduction23/06/26 06:35 PM
1

what are your base stats? it's possible that you just are someone who doesn't translate well to 2D but if not, then it's quite easy to improve your profile. race age height education job/income
/r/seduction23/06/26 06:30 PM
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if you are a male, and you do not feel much from a photo of an attractive woman, than yes it is possible you have some sort of health issue going on finding apps "boring" is just a strange thing to say. they are not supposed to be enterntainment. it's like saying that you find a ticket booking website boring. I'm American, idk what goes on in Europe. makes sense that apps are less dominant. in the US apps are the defacto way to meet people due to a lot of different factors. I've heard y'all don'…
/r/seduction23/06/26 04:11 PM
1

ok fine, well then you're using apps wrong. it takes fucking maybe 5 mins to swipe everyday. no one is wasting tons of time on apps
/r/seduction23/06/26 04:00 PM
1

you keep changing your argument first it was that you don't want to meet your wife on an app then saying apps "dont do it for you" then saying that you "prefer socialization" then a dumber argument that you prefer to "read a book" as if apps are some sort of consumption entertainment device.
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:42 PM
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cuz apps are way more base stats than skill. I'm a 6'2" white guy with elite degrees and a good job. i'm cleaning up there regardless of the fact that my pictures and overall profile are also good
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:39 PM
1

it doesn't bother me at all. it really moreso just is confusing to me why some people are hating on the best way to meet girls ever created
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:38 PM
2

ya absolutely not. it's good to have a formal pic in a suit but in front of a church? no.
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:22 PM
1

you're doing apps wrong then. they're an absolute cheat code if you're actually an good looking guy who can get attention. or you got something going on hormonally. put a photo of a hot af girl in front of you and you coudldn't care less? are you serious? apps allow you to be authentic and spread your reach far and wide. you can also easily filter girls based on who's likely to be worth it vs wasting your time. sure, going out and talking to people is fine, but it's really dumb to just write off…
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:09 PM
1

nah, the opposite. I am that guy you hate who kills it on apps and is flooded with girls. really no reason why i would do anything else
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:05 PM
1

it's weird that there's a vocal contingent of people that are so anti-app. I guess it's cuz they're losers who think they need hacks to get girls and don't like apps cuz it kinda makes it harder for chumps to get attention?
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:04 PM
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idk why anyone would want/need to do cold approach at all. I'm an attractive guy who's very successful in apps and I wouldn't cold approach unless I was already out and saw a hot girl that I wanted to talk to just cuz. the idea of just "going to do cold approach" is cringe af
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:03 PM
1

wtf is wrong with you dude? seriously. this is not normal
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:01 PM
1

I think you're saying you're looking for casual but consistent and long-term? tbh this dynamic is going to be very rare and difficult to maintain no matter what unless there's some sort of forcing function that makes the relationship time-bound
/r/seduction23/06/26 03:01 PM
2

what wrong is how difficult it is to pull off. most of the old ways people used to meet just doesn't work anymore. Church attendance is cratering people get married later so school no longer applies meeting through friends creates a lot of built up expectations It has a lot to do with how modern dating work and how relationships form. Nowadays dating involves a lot of fucking early before commitment and oftentimes relationships fizzling out when you decide that there's not a strong fit. Since we…
/r/seduction23/06/26 12:08 AM
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why not? that's pretty stupid. you know that something like 70% of relationships began on apps these days? probably higher in urban areas. it's basically the only place to meet people anymore.
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:55 PM
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i think this was true really only in a few places like LA or Vegas, where The Game became so popular Mystery Method got run so hard that girls had already had all the gimmicks tried on them.
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:51 PM
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ya, so many guys just flat out stopped making any moves in the wake of MeToo. Also a lot of Gen Zs are heavily under-socialized cuz of COVID and will not make a move unless they explicitly know she's gunna say yes.
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:49 PM
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the biggest difference is that apps have made it so that top guys are flooded with girls and don't NEED to approach IRL anymore. girls hate apps cuz it puts them at a disadvantage. getting approached IRL is wayyyy better for women, it gives them a lot more data, and lets them see you in a real world environment. they can beg guys to approach them IRL all they want but it's not gunna happen. apps are here to stay, women just need to learn better strat for apps but they are conditioned socially th…
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:48 PM
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MeToo was a massive movement that swung way too far, as movements often due. it took a decade for us to get to the point where there's enough noise about wanting guys to approach IRL from app fatigue. I think some of it is natural correction and some of it is people pushing back on social change. Apps have accelerated a lot of trends that a lot of people aren't happy about. another factor for sure was that one way to take a loser and get him over the hump was just reps and getting him to overcom…
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:47 PM
2

what? he isn't saying he doesn't respect women bro. and physical touch absolutely is a human need. men are extremely touch starved in the modern world. it's totally fine to have casual sex and meet your needs while looking for something more serious with someone else
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:20 PM
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i don't really understand your hypothetical situation. if you're on a date with a girl than meeting up at 8pm makes sense but then she's with you, she's not with her friends. if you're going out and hitting on girls that you just met that night then you can't do that at 8pm, most people going out on the weekend aren't getting to a place til like 10pm. ya, your line is weird as fuck. I can't imagine a worse thing to say. she doesn't give a fuck when you like to go to bed. it comes across like you…
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:18 PM
3

you need to get over the fear of being creepy. this woman is on a date with you, she's already open to the possibility of a sexual relationship with you. sure, there are ways that it can be more or less "creepy", but that's just learned with being a conversationalist. so many guys are afraid of being seen as "creepy" that they never make any moves at all. If you said "wanna play a game?" and then went into a few "would you rathers" that's so easy. You also learn to just weave a more sexual flair…
/r/seduction22/06/26 08:21 PM
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bro you have some depression or other issues going on if you say you 're "usually too tired to see out the whole evening" when you're saying you've got a hot girl you're flirting with at a bar and you don't have the energy to see it through? wtf also, this is a doomer af view. 99% of the time she's going home alone
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:07 PM
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he clearly laid it out, he's looking for long-term but wants short-term in the meantime. "don't let the search for your wife stop you for finding your girlfriend" or "while looking for the right one, make sure to have fun with the wrong ones too" men have needs, nothing wrong with getting sex/intimacy from casual relationships while continuing to look for more compatible long-term ones.
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:05 PM
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idk, i've found that getting trapped into boyfriend vibes with myself is more of an issue post-sex. I'm deprogramming myself from a religious upbringing that has a bad connotation with any sort of purely casual relationship. I notice that when I'm interacting with a girl I can quickly fall back into relationship mode. You really can get away with a lot more than you think, and you learn this over time. In my head I had told myself that women don't want casual sex, and any time they engage in it …
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:04 PM
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in the middle of the date ask yourself "Does this convo feel like something you could have with a coworker or someone you'd lay in bed naked with?" Outside of physically escalating, it can be helpful to spicy things up by talking about sexual stuff, drugs, or anything else that you couldn't talk about at work. "never have I ever", "would you rather", or asking about past relationships can help make this shift.
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:00 PM
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it's all about the signals that you give to her. if you signal more investment, then you're going to get to respond accordingly. if you just want her as a hookup, you need to treat her as such and set boundaries and then let her opt-in if she wants that. the issue where things get messy is that a lot of men are seeking emotional depth/connection AND sex, but without the commitment which most women are not going to enjoy, and it'll eventually blow up. that's where you really need to have other pe…
/r/seduction22/06/26 04:34 PM
1

never did I say that height is a magic bullet.
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:38 PM
1

lol ok buddy, whatever buddy. go fuck yourself
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:38 PM
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lol you know that dudes who are 6'3" don't have to be charming, lift 5 days/wk, or dress well? the Sabrina Carpenter SNL skit is funny cuz it's true
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:36 AM
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ya, girls are attracted to guys that are aloof and mysterious if they're tall and attractive. if you don't have to try, that shows your worth
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:34 AM
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lol ya no, this is not how these girls work. there are different types of validation. they can still feel sad though if they think that everyone stares but no one sees them as a person
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:32 AM
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Gen Z is absolutely not "turning away from casual hookups" and your data doesn't even support that assertion idk how tf a "massive decline in nightlife" has anything to do with what we're talking about lol why are you in the sub if you are so anti-hookups?
/r/seduction22/06/26 03:31 AM
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wtf does that even mean?
/r/seduction20/06/26 11:17 PM
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national surveys are not really applicable here. i don't think anyone is really looking to be average on this sub. the fact that the average person dates 1 or 2 people and then marries them is not some sort of proof that that is a good outcome. a lot of people marry young and a lot of marriages end in divorce.
/r/seduction20/06/26 11:16 PM
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what? this doesn't make any fucking sense. if you pull away naturally and then she initiates then that's exactly the point. and there's no such thing as "mutual" ever.
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:06 PM
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nah, options are good but just cuz you have options doesn't mean that switching costs are zero or that you get what you want. knowing what you want is most important. and i don't think OP is saying this is a peak human experience, but for most guys you gotta first fuck a lot of girls and have game before you can be confident enough to actually find the right girl.
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:53 PM
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bro gtfo of here with that "courted" bullshit. courting doesn't exist, hasn't existed for generations. being courted was literally the man jumping through hoops to convince her dad to let you marry her.
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:51 PM
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not necessarily, it depends a lot on how you play things and what you're looking for. obviously effort is higher to get the girl, then drops off. girls knows this and is true in all relationships. then if you lose interest and pursue other girls, some girls will not care and others will try to get you back. just cuz they're initiating doesn't mean they're insecure, it could mean that they feel comfortable initiating since you've already built up some rapport. then when you're dealing with insecu…
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:50 PM
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nah this is a wild take. sure sex is better with someone that you've developed a deep emotional connection with, but a crime of passion can be great too
/r/seduction19/06/26 04:37 PM
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nah, even with promiscuous women they know that men hate it.
/r/seduction18/06/26 07:10 PM
0

lol ya wtf? why are you also discussing the relationship before anything has happened?
/r/seduction18/06/26 07:09 PM
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lol weird flex but ok... you worked with them. they literally did "live for it" cuz they're professional models, who are paid for people to stare and gawk at their beauty. models are also not like normal girls in many ways
/r/seduction17/06/26 03:17 PM
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you and OP have faulty assumptions. 9s/10s get male attention and validation CONSTANTLY. it's non-stop. they may not get approached that often but they are constantly aware of every guy breaking their neck when they walk in the room. they live for this shit. also dudes are CONSTANTLY in their DMs, texting them, etc. you really just have no idea what kinda lives these women live.
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:32 PM
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girls say this shit but they don't literally mean "they never get approached", they mean they never get approached by GUYS THEY WANT TO BE APPROACHED BY. remember that unattractive men are sub-human to these girls. they don't exist
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:29 PM
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ya, people really have no idea what they're talking about here
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:28 PM
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a woman who's a 8 is not fucking average
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:28 PM
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if you treat women as full adults and not children, then that requires more of them, not less. women that want to play the dumb bitch role to extract resources are toxic and it's a short-term strategy
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:15 PM
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wow, very insightful comment
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:14 PM
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ya same. unlearning a lot of bad things that were imposed on me growing up very religious
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:12 PM
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because when you "win" you still lose. you've already got a losing attitude by placing the relationship on a pedestal. your goal shouldn't be to just get a girlfriend, but to be someone that's desired by the right kind of girl. if you chase and wear down women you'll end up selecting for toxic, insecure women and will have bad relationships. she's insecure and is selecting for effort over her own desire. what happens when you stop pursuing her when you've "won" her? she'll start causing problems…
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:53 PM
0

persistence works but it's sub optimal
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:49 PM
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I also am someone who was raised in a traditional, religious household and it's been hard for me to unlearn the bad stuff I was told. It's normal to desire sex, intimacy, touch, etc. It's also normal for women to want these things too. They aren't all trying to marry you. It's hard to unlearn it when you get slammed with purity culture on one side and #MeToo on the other
/r/seduction12/06/26 04:08 PM
1

I would say that a lot of women are conditioned against guys that only looking for casual. I think it could make sense for OP if he's traveling and only in a city for a lil bit, then that gives her a "pass" in her own mind for why it's ok to be fucking with this guy.
/r/seduction12/06/26 04:07 PM
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on Hinge I would recommend not putting anything for the "dating intentions". it's just a big mess where girls are putting "long-term" to not look like whores, and then guys are putting "long-term" but not fully meaning it and girls then get mad when things don't work out. not putting anything gives both parties plausible deniability. I've also gotten into a new phase of life where I am not really looking for something long-term right now and was concerned about how to present it and I'll just sa…
/r/seduction12/06/26 04:05 PM
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this idea is fucking ridiculous. if it was true then Brad Pitt would have 1 million girlfriends. if you can get one girl you can get more. if you live in a city there are thousands of single women. you really mean to tell me that you can't possilby get any more options than one?
/r/seduction09/06/26 09:10 PM
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nah, you're wrong
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:40 PM
0

that's your biggest issue. get more options. really not that hard
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:40 PM
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no, this is a terrible idea. authenticity is good, but it's got a narrow band. you can absolutely be too authentic. I would say telling girls you've never had sex or even kissed a girl, would be seen as universally unattractive. you're getting rejected because you're not escalating. you can fix that without having done it before.
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:07 PM
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no, this is a stupid way. it shows you're inexperienced and obtuse and don't value her. the better way is to control her access to you. if you're not texting back all the time and you're spending your weekends "busy" she's gunna fill in the gaps in a way more convincing manner than you will by telling her "ya I was with stacy last night" or whatever
/r/seduction09/06/26 06:53 PM
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no, absolutely not. if you have more options then you don't have to play games. you don't have to pretend to have other options when you actually do have other options.
/r/seduction08/06/26 06:08 PM
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playing games is stupid and not worth it in the long-run
/r/seduction08/06/26 04:02 PM
0

if you're not worth drawing anyone's attention, then women are not gunna look at you. their there with their friends, doing their own thing, trying to have a good time. they are not scanning the bar for guys to stare at
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:48 PM
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yes, in general most women are more guarded and less likely to enjoy being approached than 5-10 years ago. also, walking up and just saying "hi" is gunna set off more alarm bells of like "wtf does this dude want" women at bars/clubs are also more on edge and ready for guys to approach them. it's really just not a great way of spending your time. it's better to find women that look more open and then talk to them than just walking up to random girls
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:46 PM
8

lol guys are so clueless. if she's making repeated eye contact with you, she is interested and wants you to come talk to her.
/r/seduction07/06/26 02:47 AM
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Hep C transmission is extremely rare, it's not even classified as an STI HIV transmission for men having vaginal sex with women is essentially 0 concerns around future resistance for gonorrhea is a future problem. chlamydia is a non-issue for HPV just get the vaccine but the whole "leading cause of oral cancer is wildly overblown" Syphilis is a growing concern but very treatable and only gets concerning if you don't address it for years Are there risks? absolutely. but the risks are generally ti…
/r/seduction07/06/26 12:37 AM
1

first get a girl who's a fwb who's bi or bi-curious. bi being strongly preferred. from there you get the girl to initiate it and loop in the other girl. possible to get two girls that you're hooking up with that are both down but much harder and a much higher degree of causing jealousy.
/r/seduction05/06/26 07:35 PM
4

use proper grammer
/r/seduction05/06/26 07:33 PM
1

why?
/r/seduction05/06/26 07:31 PM
-1

don't wear a condom. it feels way better and there's basically zero risk as a man anyways.
/r/seduction03/06/26 11:42 PM
2

ya, who are these buzzkills coming in here like a high school health teacher...
/r/seduction03/06/26 11:41 PM
0

who are the dirty people y'all are fucking that would knowingly have something and tell you about it? this is a wild thread
/r/seduction03/06/26 11:40 PM
0

"gambling with your health" is such a ridiculous statement. just vague and serious enough to sound wise while saying absolutely fucking nothing. as a man, there's not really anything to "gamble" because there isn't anything that you should even be concerned with. the most common STIs are easily treatable with antibiotics with no long-term consequences. the only one that's actually a serious situation is HIV, which is essentially impossible to contract as a man having vaginal sex with women.
/r/seduction03/06/26 11:37 PM
8

what's the fucking point then?
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:47 PM
4

ya, who cares. most people already have herpes from chickenpox or getting kissed by relatives as a baby. they don't even test for it cuz it's so popular and false positives are common
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:47 PM
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get the vaccine if you're really worried, or just forget about it cuz most people have HPV already
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:46 PM
1

explain exactly when you plan on asking for her to show proof of a recent test? as an experienced sex-haver, whenever this convo happens it's like right before you're bout to put it in and she's like "um hey uhh you're clean right?" and you say ya, and she says "ok cool" or like another time a girl blew me and then the next morning she was like "I really wanna fuck you but said you haven't been tested recently" but then we ended up fucking anyways and I told her I'd get tested that week and let …
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:02 PM
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women don't have aids lol, and exactly you're not concerned about someone who's positive but withholding info, it's the person who doesn't know they have something which is the risk but it's just not something you need to worry about tbh
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:52 PM
1

wear a condom for how long? until you're exclusive? could be a very long time. honestly there's really just nothing you as a man need to be that worried about. smash away with impunity and get tested every few months/partners to make sure you're not asymptomatic.
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:51 PM
16

they don't even test for herpes anymore cuz basically everyone already has it
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:49 PM
1

ridiculously over cautious and often not possible
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:48 PM
8

that is a straight up wild thing to ask for mid-hookup
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:48 PM
2

as a man there's honestly nothing that you need to worry about in terms of STIs. everything is either very low risk or very low consequences. The most common are chlamydia and gonorrhea which if you have symptoms you take some antibiotics and you're good, no long term issues. The only STI to actually be concerned about HIV, which is essentially impossible to contract from women vaginally. There is some risk of getting something and being asymptomatic, which is more of a her problem than a you pr…
/r/seduction03/06/26 05:47 PM
1

gotcha, i've never heard that there's a banning risk from those
/r/seduction02/06/26 10:11 PM
1

what is an expired match?
/r/seduction02/06/26 10:07 PM
1

lol what?
/r/seduction02/06/26 10:05 PM
1

oh ya, i guess if i were to run into issues with the strategy I'd reconsider but it's been fine so far. so but back to my original question are you just collecting matches in Hidden? what do you do if you message and she doesn't respond? when do you ever unmatch?
/r/seduction02/06/26 09:12 PM
0

oh, interesting. I've never run into that problem. I never make plans for the date in-app and it's worked out well as a filtering mechanism. my move I saw from some creator is to say something like "you seem like fun, shoot me your number and I'll plan us something fun" and then give her my number.
/r/seduction02/06/26 08:52 PM
1

why not just text her? or DM on IG? I guess I'm mostly thinking about girls where we matched and then the convo fizzled from either my end or hers. I've been off for a few months and thinking about re-engaging. I have about 12 matches that are there still there. I'll restart things and then if they don't respond then what? In the past I've unmatched with girls who didn't respond after one follow-up text after a week or so.
/r/seduction02/06/26 08:44 PM
-2

why? I slay on apps. like shooting fish in a barrel when you're a 6'2" white guy with good hair, good job, and good education
/r/seduction02/06/26 08:41 PM
4

wtf does this even mean? "wanna go back to my place?" doesn't require you to be on a date
/r/seduction02/06/26 07:13 PM
9

escalate escalate escalate
/r/seduction02/06/26 07:13 PM
14

ya, im 33 fucking a 23yr old who still has her vertical ID lmfao. people do think it's kinda weird when i mention it to them, but they're mostly old and married friends who are probably a mix of jealous and confused
/r/seduction02/06/26 03:57 AM
1

ya you gotta stop thinking like this. she is on a date with you, she’s open to having sex. she shaved, she’s wearing the matching set, she ubered there, she’s wearing something she might could wear to work tomorrow, she’s open. you gotta go for it by escalating slowly and then make the leap. if she says no, no worries but you gotta take the shot
/r/seduction01/06/26 11:18 PM
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this gets touted as generic advice but i dont really think it holds up. most of the time girls are gunna lean towards asking you more questions cuz they’re evaluating you. if you go interview mode and try to let her talk 70% of the time or whatever it’s not gunna work. a conversation naturally flows and both parties should talk similar amounts
/r/seduction01/06/26 11:16 PM
1

no girl is gunna sleep with you based on what you’ve talk about like if you have the best icebreakers lol. biggest thing is sit next to her on a couch ideally. NEVER across from her. this ain’t an interview. let her get settled and talk about whatever, at some point you gotta switch things up and take it in more of a R rated direction. talk about sex, relationships, drugs, etc. it’s usually easy to talk about relationships as a entry point like what do you look for, what are you into, etc. the b…
/r/seduction01/06/26 11:15 PM
1

ya, that's fine. people should probably get off their couch and into the world more. all im saying that if the goal is getting bitches in bed, apps have a wayyyyyy better ROI for most guys. i see day game cold approaches as fringe. like people doing it cuz they're in the bottom 20% of dudes who don't have any other options or people doing it for the love of the game, which is also kinda weird. like using a recurve bow instead of a rifle to deer hunt
/r/seduction31/05/26 06:01 PM
1

ya, i'm in the 5% of dudes getting all the matches on apps but I would say that for most guys it's a better ROI to invest in making your app profile better than trying to cold approach girls in the daytime. unless you're just tapped out completely and have no hope like 5'4", bald, fat, no degree, no job, etc
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:39 PM
1

idk, i mean i would say that if you want to practice social skills then just "cold approach" dudes, grannys, married women with babies. talk to girls and don't ask for their number. that's way more effective if the goal is social skill development and confidence. if people just hear "day game is it" then it becomes all about just getting numbers or dates or whatever and then people miss the whole social skills part of it. it's like working out to better yourself vs working out just to get girls.
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:37 PM
-2

ya, it's easy to see why the british had y'all under their thumb for so long
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:27 PM
1

ya, that makes sense but that should be a very small % of the total population of people here. I feel like a lot of people are just anchoring to cold approaches cuz they're the "hardest" and then people think cuz it's hard, it's somehow better? also i guess it seems grindable and feels like work?
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:26 PM
1

lmfao absolutely not the best one. y'all weirdos treat this like some sorta sport
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:25 PM
2

lol yes it dose, social proof is key
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:09 AM
0

why are so y'all so painfully horny tho?
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:09 AM
-1

cultural
/r/seduction31/05/26 03:08 AM
1

always just proposed what you want, when you want to do it and let her either accept or provide an alternative. women like this much better, and it's better for you cuz it allows you to control the interaction completely. it feels like you should ask her what she wants to do, compromise, meet in the middle, etc but this is worse for both parties. women are conditioned against having strong opinions early when dating and want to see chill and down for whatever so when you give her two options or …
/r/seduction30/05/26 08:37 PM
-1

why do people always want to redirect the convo to cold approaches? who tf even does them anymore when apps exist?
/r/seduction30/05/26 08:34 PM
1

no, I would think that very high T results in less pro-social behavior because you're always aware of status games and trying to out compete. there's plenty of evidence on the effects of high T from bodybuilders
/r/seduction30/05/26 08:05 PM
5

well i'm not saying that it's deterministic. I'm just describing how a certain type of guy gets there. we aren't talking about the insecure people pleaser who everyone claims to love but then no one fucks. what is universal is that high T results in more internal confidence and less concern with what is socially acceptable.
/r/seduction30/05/26 05:22 PM
12

it's biological. high T mean more confidence, more dopamine, more pro-social thinking, means better interactions with people. women are wired to value a man who creates motion and is polarizing, either positive or negative, but someone who makes waves in the world
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:58 PM
2

ya, sounds like bro needs to work on leveling up his image of himself
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:31 PM
4

most guys just need to stop worrying about being creepy at all. if you're worried about being creepy, you're not the person who would ever come across as creepy. guys got #MeToo'd so hard that they are too afraid to say anything and the pendulum has swung the other way that girls are DESPERATE for dudes to make a move. what guys dont get is that girls are actually very generous with guys saying cringe/weird/creepy things. if you're ugly then no one is talking about you at all, and if you're hot …
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:31 PM
3

comment on something she's wearing that's not sexual like her shoes or something. or if it's some place that you go to regularly like the grocery store or the gym say "I think I've seen you around here before." even tho you havent
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:47 PM
0

this is truly a ridiculous take. just insane shit
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:25 PM
1

what kinda dumb question is this? if you want a long term relationship then dont settle for quick dopamine lol. the better strategy is to set your standards based on LTR you'll still end up fucking and churning out a decent number of girls. no one is just flipping the LTR switch automatically. and then as you date around you'll end up with some that are more down for casual and you can fill them in the gaps when you hit a rough patch while you're out there looking for your LTR
/r/seduction28/05/26 11:57 PM
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lol total selection bias. you only see the women who are in relationships and you mainly have male friends so you're not exposed to women who arent in relationships. there is a grain of truth in the general idea that women are more likely to be relationship seeking and men are more likely to be grinding or in monk mode or whatever.
/r/seduction28/05/26 05:36 PM
-4

very wrong, so many women will end relationships to just heal and work on themselves. the idea that every girl just swings from guy to guy is insane
/r/seduction28/05/26 04:30 PM
5

lol no, what an absurd doomer opinion to have. first of all, there's no such thing as "good" girls. like wtf do you mean? and then you say "hot" but later you say "cute girl next door" girls. those are not the same thing at all.
/r/seduction28/05/26 04:29 PM
1

filter heavily on hinge have a clearly flirty/unserious profile never list relationship goals never match with any girl who has "life partner" as their goals cut loose any girl that pushes back, and isn't flirty with you over texts filter heavily based on her interest towards you. you need to make her jump through hoops to get you on a date. at that point you've pretty much all you can do. the goal is to then escalate and see where it leads you. you can increase your average by filtering harder …
/r/seduction24/05/26 10:07 PM
2

there are for sure gradients but what is "high value" is determined culturally. no woman out there is like "ya, I'd love to find a broke guy with no car, who beats me, and cheats on me. that's what I'm looking for and that's what I determine to be high value." the idea that the broke guys are poor but have a huge cock or have a lot of game is just cope.
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:12 PM
4

OP's talking more about when he's on the actual date. There it's all about filtering hard for girls who are DTF, making your intentions clear from the beginning, and then learning how to escalate. The most important part is filtering the girls who actually are down to fuck
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:51 PM
-1

stupid comment. high status always matters. the women who date losers have low self-esteem and don't think high quality guys will date them.
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:49 PM
1

lol wtf? I've never spent any amount of time thinking about a "playful comment" a girl made.
/r/seduction21/05/26 05:17 PM
3

hmm, well in the case of this one girl I think the issue was that determined that she was sexually interested in me, but then she was trying to suss out if she was interested in me in other ways. I think a lot of women treat sex as the carrot for them to get more dates. Men think it's just about free dinners, but it's really about them getting time with you to get to know you better. So if you fuck on the first date, then they might feel they don't have cards to play. they try to pull back but o…
/r/seduction21/05/26 05:15 PM
1

ya, sure then. different game entirely
/r/seduction20/05/26 04:30 PM
2

ya, it's kinda hard to tell what women are actually looking for cuz they want to be coy. I try to have my Hinge profile look very flirty/fun, and not serious but also I assumed that most women are not trying to fuck on a Tuesday on a first date. Twice recently tho I end up in bed with girls on a Tuesday, on a first date. I didn't even try to make it happen, they were the ones pushing me towards it. One girl wouldn't fuck cuz I didn't have a condom and I didn't bring one cuz I legit didn't think …
/r/seduction20/05/26 03:53 PM
15

lol what? nah fuck that. dinner dates are great. make her a nice meal, girls love a man who can cook. buy some flowers, light some candles, make it romantic. and you're already at your place. there is no convincing necessary. if she comes over for dinner at yours, she knows she's willingly accepted an invite highly likely to lead to sex.
/r/seduction20/05/26 03:48 PM
2

lol duh
/r/seduction20/05/26 02:06 AM
2

ya biologically sure, but the social stigma was HIGH. going to school in the south in the 10s if you went out to the bars and talked to some girl her friends WOULD NOT let her leave with you unless she said "leave me, I'm fine." like 20 times. Uber and Find My iPhone really changed the game in that regard
/r/seduction20/05/26 02:06 AM
1

voted #1 smarted CHAD three years running
/r/seduction19/05/26 10:01 PM
3

there are tons of fucking studies that show women value looks!
/r/seduction19/05/26 09:00 PM
3

empirical scientific evidence
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:59 PM
11

exactly, especially since most interraction happen over apps and on apps women are even MORE LIKELY to care about looks, they become way more important. Also, as dating has gotten more casual and women are more open to casual sex, looks have increased in importance. if she's just trying to have fun, the most important thing is "is he hot?"
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:58 PM
1

this is ridiculous cope
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:56 PM
0

women don't believe the shit they say. they can't be trusted on this type of stuff
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:35 PM
1

well first you're hot and then you have the confidence to talk to girls and it snowballs from there. what's the alternative path if you're fat and ugly? just get funny? how?
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:34 PM
1

girls have a MASSIVE gulf between stated and revealed preferences. so wide that they are incapable of saying what they actually like cuz they're most of the time completely unaware. their comments are completely worthless
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:33 PM
1

knew it
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:16 PM
4

lmfao are you seriously believing what women tell you on this forum?
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:33 PM
1

looksmaxxers are just trying to pull the lever that's easiest to pull and has the most direct impact. if you maximize your looks, then everything else comes afterwards. how tf do you think guys got confident?
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:32 PM
1

ok so how short are you?
/r/seduction19/05/26 04:31 PM
28

agree that 9/10s are a scam. Dating a girl in college that I'd call a 9. hottest girl at our school. blonde, pretty face, 5'8", 32DD size 2/4 waist, etc. Like you said, they have sky high egos around their looks. My ex was smart and driven, not just a trinket but she legit couldn't accept being the second hottest girl in any room. You think these women would be fun and confident, but no. She was extremely self-conscious as she got older and started to see that she wasn't 22 anymore. When she was…
/r/seduction18/05/26 06:58 PM
3

ok, I mean it's not a very useful term, even if it technically clinical. It describes a cluster of symptoms rather than a specific disease
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:42 PM
1

Growing up I developed into a natural flirter and now I realize that this was due to my undiagnosed ADHD. I realized that girls thought I was hot and I could get validation and attention from flirting.
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:23 PM
4

I mean "depression" is not a technical term, and it's not very descriptive at all. The idea of "depression" comes from when it was thought to be almost strictly a woman problem so ya
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:21 PM
1

no, it's not fucking sarcasm lol how long does it take to send a text? 20 seconds? If you get a girl's number on Thursday and you wait til Sunday to text her your chance of her responding has plummeted
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:57 PM
2

ya that text is brutal. you gotta just immediately proposed a date at that point. you've done the small talk IRL
/r/seduction12/05/26 04:22 PM
5

absolutely you can't wait that long. she's gunna assume you're not interested. you're probably not that hot. if you were hotter you could get away with waiting.
/r/seduction12/05/26 04:21 PM
22

ya, two days is forever
/r/seduction12/05/26 04:20 PM
23

ya, she likes the other guy more and doesn't want to risk getting attached to you which might hurt what she sees as a better option. she also sees you as a backup option since you're always available. but, if you stop giving her attention, then post cryptic IG stories and tell her that you're busy friday/sat night then she's gunna switch up how she acts real quick.
/r/seduction11/05/26 06:30 PM
20

women generally go to pilates classes and other stuff similar cuz they don't want to be stared at by men, even tho they say that guys should do this to meet women. when they see you they'll likely think you're gay. If I was gunna do this, I'd get a friend to invite you. Then you're not some dude trying to run game or be creepy, you're now a guy who has a friend already and is secure enough in his masculinity to go to a girly class. Go like every couple weeks or something. Talk to some of the gir…
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:09 PM
0

ya we are talking about two different types of "daygame". you're describing high-volume shots where you're clearly trying to pick them up. that's going to have a very low conversion overall. what I'm talking about is more just talking to pretty women when you see them, not trying to do old school "approach 100 girls at Venice Beach" type bullshit that doesn't work anymore. you see a pretty girl, you talk to her. you don't force an interaction, you don't even have to get her number.
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:58 PM
1

lol ya this is just categorically false. you can absolutely build desire in a woman. she maybe isn't super attracted to you physically but you can be funny or charming and she can realize that she had desire that she wasn't in touch with initially.
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:05 PM
6

but even "going home" doesn't mentally commit them for sex. they are still putting your through hundreds of little tests and checks to see how you handle every interaction. I was on a first date with a girl that was going well. We made out in the photo booth and I was like, "hey I have an idea, there's another place we could go..." and then she cut me off and was like "oh, idk if we should go back to your place, I mean this is just a first date." at that point I knew that it was over cuz she alr…
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:03 PM
9

ya, most girls keep you in the "maybe" bucket all the way up until the moment you are fucking. especially the first time, she's scanning for if you're doing something weird and if she's safe. if you make her feel comfortable and safe, she's going to be open to possibly of sex. it's pretty rare that when she's decided that she wants to have sex with you she's like begging for it.
/r/seduction06/05/26 08:25 PM
1

ok but still a lot of girls do not enjoy being approached while they're out with their friends or doing something where they don't want to be approached. the fact that you're seeing so many flakes shows you clearly weren't building up interest and desire
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:57 PM
2

fuck more bitches
/r/seduction05/05/26 08:28 PM
9

if you're trying to do actual high-conversion day game you have to do instant dates. nowadays the chance that a girl is gunna go on a date with some random dude that pestered her to giving her number days later is gunna be low would think the best time would be afternoon where she doesn't likely have any plans after that you can slides from chill afternoon date to night-time activities
/r/seduction05/05/26 05:55 PM
46

absolutely, just escalate. women are very often down to hookup but they want the guy to lead things. they want no questions that you're into them. they also need you to escalate to let them see how they feel about you. when you make a move and escalate it gives her a chance to check in with her body and her mind to decide if she likes what's happening. on dating apps it's on absolute easy mode cuz by the time you're on the first date you've already made it past a massive filter. the fact that sh…
/r/seduction03/05/26 07:09 PM
2

I mean, kinda a stupid framing cuz obviously being tall, attractive, successful, confident, etc all build on each other. it's unlikely that you'll be super hot but then also totally unable to carry a convo with girls.
/r/seduction02/05/26 07:18 PM
1

I mean, yes and no. Being attractive and having game makes the numbers game a lot more effective. I recently went a spree of going on a lot of first dates. I'm 33M, 6'2", attractive, in decent shape but don't have shirtless pics, am good at flirting and escalating. I also have a very specific type of profile to attract the right type of girls and filter aggressively on how interested they are in me. Of the 5 girls I went on dates with here were my results: 2 dates, fucked both times, she still t…
/r/seduction02/05/26 07:17 PM
16

yes, but also the dating market has shifted so much in that "is he a good provider?" is much lower on the list than "is he a good time?" what OP is saying is that "is he a good provider?" is irrelevant for a guy you meet at a hostel in thailand that you know you'll never see again. it becomes more about the story, the experience, etc. but often this isn't about the guy, it's more about the girl. she wants to feel fun, free, not prudish, someone different. being on a trip gives you plausible deni…
/r/seduction29/04/26 05:13 PM
1

they were too young
/r/seduction22/04/26 08:07 PM
1

I'm 33 and I've found that girls <29 are pretty chill about these kinds of things having not lived through peak MeToo. Even a lot of millennial women have realized that it went too far at the same time that female sexual empowerment has grown. Now a lot of girls realize that sex is cool and they want to have sex, even casually they just need the guy to be the one pursuing them to make it happen so they need to accept some level of awkwardness in getting to that point.
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:36 PM
2

because it says that she is actively thinking about having sex with you and also aligning physically by inviting you over to her place. She's basically already decided to fuck you but she wants plausible deniability that it "just happened" cuz girls are weird. They're uncomfortable with actively choosing to have sex with guys cuz they want to feel like the guy chose them. So by inviting you over she's trying to say "don't let the fact that I'm inviting you back change the fact that I still want …
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:32 PM
1

most younger girls that didn't live through peak #MeToo don't have any concept to understand how insane it was. They have more agency would love for guys to try more so they can decide if they want to
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:30 PM
2

imho today we're at a place where most guys, especially Gen Z needs to be told to press more rather than ease up. Girls complain about guys not making moves, not approaching IRL, not getting hints, etc. The pendulum has swung to the other side of peak #MeToo insanity and there's a lot of grace from girls if you don't handle things perfectly these days.
/r/seduction21/04/26 08:59 PM
9

I'd personally disagree with the broad strokes "no means no." statement and had to learn this first hand. For most women in most situations no means "not right now but I could change my mind" but it matters massively the context of everything else you're seeing from her. If a woman ever says something like "you can come over but just so you know we're not having sex" that is about as clear of a sign that you're likely gunna fuck that a girl will ever say. If she's at your place, on the couch, ma…
/r/seduction21/04/26 08:18 PM
3

You need to stop caring what they think. be open, honest, vulnerable and read her. Talk about stuff you want to talk about. Most dates women are actually evaluating you so they are trying to ask you more questions. The whole "wow he never asked me anything!" is kinda overblown. If you deflect and allow her to talk 80/20 a lot of women will see through that as a tactic. It's ok to talk more than her, you're the one leading the date and she's evaluating you
/r/seduction21/04/26 03:37 PM
20

"make your intentions known" but show, don't tell. the worst thing you can do is telegraph you're intentions and now she's got to deal with that and has lost this whole thing in her head of "he's just a good guy friend, i needed a place to stay, whoops! i guess it just happened, i got caught up in the moment"
/r/seduction27/03/26 10:29 PM
4

lol it's not binary. plenty of girls may like you and be willing to fuck you but don't want to do that the first time they meet you
/r/seduction24/03/26 10:04 PM
1

most women will shoot down first date weekend dates. first dates are "supposed" to be for weekdays. your best bet is thursday, cuz it's not quite the weekend but it still feels like it. friday they probably don't have much going on and would be down to have a few drinks and have fun. but it just depends. ive fucked girls on a first date on a tuesday as well.
/r/seduction24/03/26 09:57 PM
2

pushing for sex on the first date i guess is fine if you have no desire to have a relationship with any of them.
/r/seduction24/03/26 09:55 PM
1

age-dependent. in your early 20s girls haven't internalized that hookups are ok and casual sex/situationships are fine. By the late 20s/early 30s women are more ok to go on a few dates, maybe fuck, but their bar for a relationship is higher. still pretty easy to get into a relationship because most girls want relationships, but if you force it then you'll just waste your time cuz once you hit the 3 month mark she'll realize she doesn't actually like you and dump you.
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:35 PM
1

highly dependent on your age.
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:31 PM
1

most girls don't want to be told clearly that they're a hookup. they all want to maintain the illusion that you're their husband
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:31 PM
2

well because it's making everything harder to see if there's a spark. A bar/nightclub has a particular environment that makes connection easier: night time alcohol everyone wearing clothes that make them feel good loud enough that you can't really talk A "run club" ruins every one of those advantages when they do the "walk/run a 5k or just meet us at this bar" bullshit. Human attraction is about body signals not about talking. it's not about what you are saying, it's everything else. when you st…
/r/seduction18/03/26 02:29 PM
11

well it was a good way, low stakes way to meet people IRL but then people forgot that for it to work you have to show up for weeks/months and then just actually get to know people and through that knowing people you'll figure out if you want to date them. And no one has time for that so they turned run clubs into speed dating and ruined both. if you want to bring back pre-app dating, you have to bring everything about it back not just the parts you don't like
/r/seduction17/03/26 01:20 PM
37

well in OPs defense there was a time where people were advocating to use run clubs as a 1:1 replacement for dating apps, which basically just turned them into a worse version of a bar where all the women are wearing sports bras and no makeup.
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:14 PM
1

not going to be your google machine
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:58 PM
8

women are people but they're very different from men in that they are more feelings/emotion dominate instead of logically/thoughts driven. it's just a scientific fact that attraction between two people happen in seconds. it's a combination of a million different signals. yes, of course it's all about preselection. Women are putting men in boxes too. They put you in the Yes/No/Maybe box. the thing most guys need to understand that it has a lot more to do with her own state than you as a person. w…
/r/seduction15/03/26 06:04 PM
4

most women lack any significant amount of meta-cognition. they also STRONGLY want to maintain the illusion that they were chosen by the man, rather than they choosing him. So instead they'll say shit like "oh it just happened. We hit it off, he was so into me, etc." Like ya, ok you didn't want it to happen but you suggested Saturday night as a first date instead of Tuesday, shaved, wore a matching set, Ubered to the date, suggested going back to his place, made a comment about how nice his bed l…
/r/seduction15/03/26 06:01 PM
1

I feel like most of the slut shaming now is internalized. Girls telling themselves that they can't have sex on the first date cuz that's "bad". Lots of women haven't really processed the sexual shame they've been made to feel.
/r/seduction15/03/26 03:51 PM
2

lmfao. you don't think the fact that he wasn't actually attracted to women might have affected his results a lil?
/r/seduction13/03/26 11:19 PM
1

ya, i experienced this recently and was kinda thrown off by it. i built up too much tension and escalation that they're kinda gun-shy. the fact that they know that there's an implicit expectation of sex makes them weird about it and too in their head. they need to have the plausible deniability that it "just happened" even though she shaved beforehand, and wore a matching set, and ubered to the date, and wore something she could wear the next day...
/r/seduction10/03/26 10:29 PM
2

you're missing the point. huge difference between kissing and heavily making out, basically would be fucking if you weren't in a parking lot at the moment.
/r/seduction10/03/26 10:26 PM
1

ya, it seems counter-intuitive but honesty really is the best policy, but so it not answering questions she's not asking. women want casual but they don't want to feel like a whore. so they're not gunna ask you directly "hey are you trying to just fuck or what?" they need to tell themselves "he's a good guy, i like him, this could turn into something." this is how women work.
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:22 PM
1

you absolutely do not need to manage her expectations. that is her shit to deal with. her feelings are her to regulate on her own. this will save you a world of pain
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:21 PM
2

why the fuck did you tell her that you are "not into serious relationships right now"?
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:20 PM
2

100%, always be totally honest and yourself. if she doesn't like it then let her walk. you need to be scaring away the wrong hoes. the right ones will stay and they'll be into you for you. vulnerability is extremely sexy to women
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:19 PM
2

why are you telling girls you only want casaul? that's your mistake. this really never needs to be a convo that you initiate
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:18 PM
0

I think your issue is that you have explicit sinister intentions that you feel like you're hiding. this will solve most of your problems if you view your intentions as just to get to know her and see where it goes. that's it! "get to know her" means as a whole person and that includes sexual, she is a sexual creature with sexual desires that you can enjoy with her. and yes, you should avoid hurting her feelings, but you do not need to answer questions that she's not asking. she is not going to a…
/r/seduction04/03/26 04:18 PM
-3

it's not a joke, it affects your whole mindset. "woe is me, no woman gives me any attention" is something that absolutely affects you.
/r/seduction03/03/26 08:29 PM
0

bro why are you doing this? quit having such a defeatist mindset
/r/seduction03/03/26 08:12 PM
16

text him and say "heyyyyy :) hope you're doing well! wanna come over to my place and drink wine and catch up?" that's it. Or just be more blunt, that works too. "hey, i'm looking for something more casual now and I think you're hot. wanna fuck sometime?"
/r/seduction03/03/26 08:12 PM
6

the close happening in person makes so much sense, is the standard for any sales training but i feel like is never talked about in PUA. "this was fun, we should do it again. What are you doing next week?" is so simple to say. it doesn't commit you to anything and it requires her to basically open up her entire calendar to you. Then you can follow up the next day based on how you're feeling and schedule something concrete. it doesn't have to be manipulation, if you're secure and busy and have oth…
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:18 PM
3

they're not lying to you. the truth is somewhat in the middle. they have a lot of guys giving them attention, but they aren't really excited about them. They typically only have one or two guys they're genuinely excited about. women are always keeping their options open while tempering their expectations
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:13 PM
1

this is bad thinking. it absolutely is the most healthy way. it's completely unhealthy to over-commit someone in your head when they've made no commitment to you. this is christian thinking infiltrating your mind.
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:12 PM
1

first issue is you don't go on a first date on a fucking Saturday. most girls are not ghosting you after the first date unless you're weird as fuck. most girls will give you two dates.
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:10 PM
1

there's no reason to not be fully explicit. it doesn't change anything and doesn't pre-commit her to doing anything but it shows clear interest and tells the man what's in it for him.
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:08 PM
4

for OP and most women these days, this is the answer. men broadly are not approaching. looking "more open to being approached" is not going far enough. either you have to approach and be VERY direct "you're hot, wanna makeout?" or you get your friend to do the same thing for you "my friend over there thinks you're hot and wants to fuck you."
/r/seduction02/03/26 04:16 PM
0

this dude hasn't given any commitment wtf are you talking about?
/r/seduction24/02/26 10:11 PM
-1

this is toxic as fuck OP. don't do this. just plan a chill next date, make her dinner or just grab food and have her come over to your place to eat dinner, watch a movie, and fuck. you need to fuck her to flip the polarity
/r/seduction24/02/26 10:10 PM
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ya, if she tells you she has a bf on a cold approach, she's telling you to get the fuck away lol. this is not complicated. if she does have a bf and is interested, then she's not gunna bring him up
/r/seduction24/02/26 05:04 PM
1

im starting to question if everyone who posts in here is gay or something? y'all are fucking ridiculous
/r/seduction16/02/26 08:54 PM
1

k.
/r/seduction16/02/26 08:53 PM
1

lol thanks? think I'm good on the whole "how to escalate and create tension" part. really just asking about good date ideas...
/r/seduction16/02/26 07:55 PM
1

wtf this is so weird dude. insane that you typed all of this out. it's not "rapey" to suggest that 1-2 drinks makes both parties more at ease, less anxious, less filtered, and better able to have a good time. bowling? bro are you serious? what are we 12 years old or something??
/r/seduction16/02/26 07:54 PM
-1

microdosing as a replacement for alcohol bro
/r/seduction16/02/26 07:53 PM
1

33M 6'2" white
/r/seduction16/02/26 07:52 PM
7

shit like this works but only for the most desperate, anxious, and loser girls. the women who you actually want to be with would never do this type of shit unless they're on vacation. So ok, you fuck them and "win", but the sex was probably mid, and now she's blowing up your phone being annoying as fuck until you ghost her and now she low key hates you. much better to take your time, pursue actually good women that respect themselves
/r/seduction16/02/26 05:26 PM
8

If she likes you she'll think exactly what she wants. If she likes you: "oh wow he took a solo trip to Thailand?! So confident, adventurous, exciting, knows what he wants, is driven, etc." if she doesn't like you: "loser, has no friends, can't get girls in the US, had to be a passport bro, etc."
/r/seduction16/02/26 05:20 PM
3

you need to setup better first dates. if you do this then you'll set up the conditions so that you can escalate properly and push for the kiss at the end of the date. First dates needs to be drinks at a night, on a weekday period, no excuses. Needs to be late enough that it's dark outside. it needs to feel like a date 100%. get there early, scope it out, find a good spot for y'all to sit, ideally a booth or couch where you can sit next to each other NEVER FACE TO FACE, this isn't an interview du…
/r/seduction16/02/26 05:15 PM
1

it's more simple than this honestly. be secure/non-needy only engage with her when you genuinely want to be with her and can give her your full attention/energy when she's with you don't be quick to define the relationship, let her ask those questions, just show her what you're offering by your actions when she tries to pull away, let her go and don't be weird about it. when something happens and she just broke up with some guy and wants to get under someone else she'll text you. What you need t…
/r/seduction16/02/26 05:06 PM
5

travel to thailand but hopefully not just to get laid, but to be a guy who lives an interesting life. women are addicted to that shit. tell her stories from the Orient
/r/seduction16/02/26 05:00 PM
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