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Tinder in the UK is hilarious because despite the insane ratio it's STILL only showing me gigastacies most of the time. FFS show me the below average girls already.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:27 PM
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Im not saying the exact same tastes but I find it hard to believe that you and your friends never agreed on at least one guy as attractive? And again, I'm not saying that every single one of you had to agree but say in a group of 6 women, weren't there at least 2 of them that at least once said "that guy is hot". Otherwise this is way too unique to believe and flies in the face of the fact that conventionally attractive men attract far more women than conventionally unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:16 PM
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The newbie boost works both ways. While his likes might drop from 10 a day to 1 a week, hers will also drop from 1000 a day to 50-100 a day (unless she is top tier).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:06 PM
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Lol i bet he was still at least a 7/10 objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:06 AM
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I can understand how an attractive guy can fail to turn you on due to other incompatibilities. But I don't see how an unattractive guy can turn you on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:59 AM
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Would you agree that your exes that you wouldn't have swiped right on are less attractive in your eyes than the guys you would have swiped right on? Meaning that your sexual interest in them was always lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:53 AM
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I'll be totally honest, reddit is the only place where women seem to have all these different tastes within the same friend group. In my experience, women's interest in men is very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:51 AM
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Yep that's part of it, but even if you do you have to walk on eggshells around women most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:49 AM
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What part of "this is excluding OLD" was not clear in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:48 AM
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OLD is an easy way to see what's out there without actually going out there. I use it sometimes because I can occasionally get a date or 2, maybe even sex, before the algorithm knocks me down to position: male #12313423 Some men use it because they never meet women organically and aren't prepared to do the scary things to allow that to happen, such as try and make more friends and get involved in social activities, join clubs etc. One of my best friends always complains that he rarely meets wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:09 PM
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Men go on OLD because it's very hard to meet women in real life and carries far more risks, not because they prefer the women on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:19 PM
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I just find it odd that you wouldn't give your contact info to a stranger but would sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:24 PM
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So you were willing to have casual sex with strangers but not get to know them for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:21 PM
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Yeah but consider the amount of women this guy is hitting on and the sheer number of rejections he's getting. He's homeless and also begging for money so he's got nothing better to do anyway. If he's hitting up 20 women a night (this is conservative) and he gets 1 a week then that's 1/140 or a 0.71% success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:20 PM
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Ah fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:17 PM
1

So in that situation what's the best course of action for a guy you meet at a party or at a bar? Should he ask for your number and then text for a while to gauge compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:14 PM
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None of the women who commented said anything about that, I mean most of the women I knew were around that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:11 PM
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I guess maybe this is a misstep on my end but all the groups I've been in didn't really have many common interests, just generic stuff we all kinda liked. I mean one group had more gamers, another one had people into partying etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:58 PM
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Yeah that makes more sense. I was going to comment that a guy who goes to the gym and is lean + muscular is generally going to be more attractive (all else being equal) than a guy who hikes and is just lean. But since you're actually more into the lean look then it makes perfect sense. I also wouldn't doubt if more of them go to the gym, getting big muscles takes a long long time and lots of dedication (exception: genetic freak or steroids)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:56 PM
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None of those are appearance based qualities though, just common interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:47 PM
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Yeah I agree with that, but I've also seen comments like "vast majority of men are disqualified before even approaching". Meaning a huge amount of the rejection is looks based before familiarity/personality is even a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:43 PM
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I guess I see your point, I mean I'm only attracted to white women (I'm white myself before the pitchforks come out) and since the west is so diverse I'd also have to exclude loads of women if I'm looking at the total population. However your example is definitely quite niche since most social groups are basically just normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:37 PM
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Women make up a minority of OLD users and most women don't end up in relationships with guys from OLD. I mean ffs I'm in the UK and the tinder ratio is 9-1 here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:29 PM
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Agree to an extent but in the friend groups that I've been in there was a wide range of attractiveness and aesthetics. It's true that the bottom tiers and top tiers tend to hang out with each other, but most other groups tend to be pretty mixed (looks and personality wise)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:27 PM
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I honestly never see that. 95% of my tinder feed is 9/10 girls farming for instagram followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:45 PM
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I think most men know where their league is (roughly) and go for women within that league. I agree with your main points though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:03 AM
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So you go out to social settings and expect to not speak to anyone else other than the people you already know? Or do you want to meet others but only when it's on your terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:59 PM
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sigh, I clearly mentioned in social environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:47 PM
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In a way that's the point of this post, testing the waters with a more social approach
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:37 PM
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6 pack and 6 figures are far more achievable than height, face or dick size
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:09 PM
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Maximising your success rate is just that. Let's say for instance that my future soulmate (I hate using that term, but you get my point) is just on the edge of being attracted to me, but me having a 6 pack is enough to nudge her from a maybe into a yes, wouldn't you say that small improvement was worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:25 PM
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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:51 PM
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tbh any women that acts like she's better than me is going to get ignored, and I wish more men would do that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:40 PM
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You must have a great face then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:03 PM
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I mean this with no disrespect but autistic women aren't my target demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:30 PM
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keep going lol and don't get demoralized
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:25 PM
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So he should be passive and hope a girl approaches him first?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:31 PM
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So say a guy has a roughly 5% chance to get a yes should he space out his chasing to once a week so it will take him about 5 months to find any kind of success? Or maybe once a month? So over a year and a half of waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:17 PM
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First of all I wasn't even talking about dating apps in general, I just made a side comment that one advantage of OLD is that women won't get to see your other attempts, which is the whole point of this post. Secondly, men don't have to do anything, no one NEEDS to do anything, but if men want results and they aren't top tier then they need to implement a variety of strategies to maximise success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:44 PM
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Yes and no, if they're complete strangers and she doesn't know about his relationship history how will that help? Even if his relationship skills are above average, we're talking about approaching and whether she gives him a chance to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:17 PM
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SmarmyPapsmears "nearly average"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:28 PM
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But remember, she loves short guys and ugly guys, just so happens bf is a 6'7 model
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:23 PM
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He's far taller than average so already he's got a highly attractive feature that shorter men can't get, so how does this work with your theory of men striving to become top tier?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:16 PM
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I spend a lot of my free time working on my side hustle(s) as well as work full time at a high earning job (with healthy bonuses) where I've doubled my salary in 3 years and am due for a raise next month as well as a promotion in April. I go to the gym 4 days a week and am slowly progressing in strength and muscle size, I do cardio, I take supplements, I eat a relatively clean and high protein diet. However I'm well aware that making it big is hard (although I am working towards that) and at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:23 PM
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Self improvement should always be done but there are limits unless you're willing to go the plastic surgery, body modification and leg lengthening route. The main point is that even if you become a bit more attractive that won't really change much unless you break into the top tier echelon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:09 PM
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So men should never ever approach women? Would every single woman agree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:47 PM
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Either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:47 PM
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would you say that in that case the average guy will never truly be desired then? since chad can get it so much faster
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:29 PM
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I feel like that one is a clear cut no, I don't really understand why some men do it but I hope it's a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:24 PM
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I guess the question would be, if he approached the exact same way but you weren't attracted then obviously you would say no, but would it have made you uncomfortable/annoyed that he approached to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:12 PM
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Thats a philosophy that’s born out of abundance. If barely any guys liked you then I’m not sure you’d be so chill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:20 PM
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If you're out with your bf and a significantly more attractive woman than yourself starts flirting with him how would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:42 AM
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It wasn't cucking but I feel like it's a bit shitty to the guy offering to buy you a drink. Yes it's true that he offered and that you don't owe him anything but I do have an issue with women who accept drinks when they have no interest in the guy that's buying. Kinda like a foodie call tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:40 AM
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Is anyone else afraid of getting AMOGED? It’s probably my biggest dating nightmare where a taller and better looking guy (I’m average and 5’10) starts flirting with my gf while we’re out and I’m just helpless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:00 AM
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What would your advice be then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:57 PM
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How is trying to maximise your chances with women you like objectification?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:18 PM
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I don’t agree. Yes some men do objectify women but I don’t think these are correlated as much as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:48 PM
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High IQ response
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:55 PM
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It’s the most natural way young people meet each other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:19 PM
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Thanks and hope things improve where you are. I spent a few weeks in the US northeast this year and really enjoyed it there, but didn’t have to deal with weird HR departments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:19 AM
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STEM is another interesting one. I also did STEM and was in a fairly advanced discipline. There were only around 45 of us there and mostly men but the women were treated equally and one of the absolute best in the class was a woman and no one ever made any comments regarding her gender. Maybe America’s fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:08 AM
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lol wtf? do you live in a very conservative area?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:52 AM
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Wow. I really have no clue how based on what I wrote you think I'd argue for abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:42 AM
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Because abusers won't give a fuck and they'll probably go anyway? This isn't punishing women it's realising that shitheads exist and telling them to go away probably doesn't work. It's like if someone robs my house, sees me and runs away. Then he shows up the next day to try his luck again should I just say "hey man go away"? He obviously won't care. Regarding your boss's comment, do you live in some 1950s time warp?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:40 AM
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I never said what women should or shouldn't do. I'm just saying that based on the people I know, I don't THINK they would've kept going to the same things if that was the case. I've been friends with a bunch of "just one of the guys" women and they never ever had issues with us even when it was like 10 guys and her hanging out. In fact, one of those girls started to act coldly to me after I acted oblivious after she made loads of moves on me one night. If a guy SA'd someone and he was invited to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:36 AM
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I never said that, I'm just saying that I think most of the women I knew would probably have avoided the same parties and events we went to if they experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:28 AM
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Women friends sounds awkward, that's why i said female. I'd also use male friends and not men friends, or friends who are men. Yeah so that's why I said the environment matters. I honestly believe that if my friends who are women experienced that amount of sexual aggression they would've checked out of mixed gender groups/events.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:26 AM
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Sorry to hear that. I'm going to get roasted for this comment since I'm a dude, but I honestly think it depends on the environment as well. I used to be quite social in my late teens/early 20s, went to a lot of parties etc and I've never seen a guy get overly sexual with anyone, my female friends rarely ever complained about creepy guys and I just never got the vibe that men were being ridiculously gross when talking to women. Btw i did get sexually assaulted by women twice so I'm aware that a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:10 AM
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Even at a party of like 30 people? That's actually crazy. I'd somewhat expect it at a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:02 AM
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You can't, it was just a theory I cooked up and wanted to see what people thought. Being approached by people across the attractiveness spectrum is interesting, do you have a suspicion as to why that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:57 PM
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I agree, I posted this mainly for discussion's sake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:55 PM
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Thanks for the reply, but I should have made it more clear in the OP that I'm not talking about cold approach. Purely approaches at parties, social events as well as bars/clubs (which are kinda cold tbh). But DEFINITELY not stopping women on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:51 PM
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It's a theory
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:18 PM
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My bad I missed the caveat about shy men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:31 PM
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Are shy men automatically in the “not mentally ready to date” bucket to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:19 PM
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Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:10 PM
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I agree, somewhat above average is where you'll have decent success when approaching. but you won't get that many women approaching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:00 PM
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Sorry I don't understand. In my post I said 5 guys would approach and 4 would be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:43 PM
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Nope, I'm arguing the average attractiveness of the men went up, not the volume of approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:41 PM
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gymbro718NYC Maybe if i believe harder it will
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:39 PM
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Unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:34 PM
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I actually don't mind if women are more blunt tbh? I'd much rather be given a clear answer than have someone coyly "maybe" me. Sure I'm socially adept enough to understand that maybe means no, but some guys won't be so I actually appreciate the fact women are more direct now. What parts of my main argument were incoherent? I'm just saying that the attractiveness of the men approaching women has increased due to average and below men getting demoralized.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:27 PM
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I won't argue this point anymore, but btw that line was a very tangential side to my main argument which you haven't touched on at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:15 PM
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Yeah that's in tune with the general trend of people not hanging out in environments where approaching is acceptable. Do you not go to parties or out clubbing with your college friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:14 PM
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I'm sure that most women feel that way and are very careful about how they reject men, however a % won't. I'm arguing that % is higher now than before, which in turn means a higher % of "vicious" rejections that are capable of completely demoralising a guy with already shaky confidence. FWIW every rejection i've gotten has been fairly nice, but quite blunt. "fucking stupid to compound a blow to his pride with the humiliation of a 'vicious' rejection" I think you massively overestimate how confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:10 PM
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Yup agree, which is why in my example I outlined a massive decrease in volume for the woman (in terms of real life approaches), but an increase in the "quality" of the men approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:06 PM
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Well, warm or semi-warm (e.g. club, bar) Definitely not PUA crap on a busy road lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:05 PM
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Because it's statistical, sure for an individual woman it's probably binary but for a population it's not a clear cut "women are savage" or "women are meek" when rejecting. I'm just saying an average guy is more likely to get a higher % of hostile rejections (that can have lasting effects on his self esteem) than 20 years ago. I don't really get your point tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:03 PM
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The +1 might be a mistake on my part but I'm just assuming that attractive guys are even more keen to approach (especially towards women they think are easy) because they're in a really strong positive feedback loop from online dating/social media. Back in the day some attractive guys might have been unsure of their level due to a lack of validation. Regarding your second point, the only counterargument I can think of is that most women aren't even on the apps so the attractive guys get exposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:00 PM
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It's not binary, I meant that women are more blunt on average nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:55 PM
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I never mentioned cold approach, my point was that in social environments the average and below men aren't approaching women as much anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:55 PM
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Yeah so that proves my point that even an average looking guy will be seen as attractive by some women. As even on a dating app where 80 - 90% of the user base is male an average guy can get matches if he's actually shown high up in the stack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:23 PM
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I admit that I can't always tell how attractive a guy is to the female gaze but cmon most men can get pretty close as long as they studied a bit of looks theory. I understand why Timothée Chalamet and Chris Hemsworth are both very attractive, and they're incredibly different archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:21 PM
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Not many tbh but at the parties I’ve been to there are a lot of average guys even some 4/10s and no chads (highest like 7.5/10)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:12 PM
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Top 10-20% is subjective. Yea it’s usually the top guys but sometimes if you’re a girls type you will be top 10-20% for her. Dating apps are different because the algo will push you down the pecking order if you are aren’t a chad. Coupled with the insane gender ratio most girls won’t even see your profile. Ever noticed how an average guy gets 10-20 matches his first day then nothing afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:10 PM
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Lol do you seriously think only gigachads get noticed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:17 AM
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While I agree the people with active social lives skew attractive, I don't believe it's that extreme. I literally know chads with very modest social lives due to social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:16 AM
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Maybe you've got resting asshole face? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:53 AM
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Believe what you want to believe but that's been my lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:19 PM
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I don’t have any friends where I live, and I drifted apart from all my female friends. Besides, the dating app gender ratio makes it infeasible anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:03 PM
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Its gotten to the point where i quite literally don’t know what a good profile even is. Sometimes I’ll test pics that I think are great and get very poor results, other times I’ll use pics that I’m unsure about and get a higher match rate. Completely mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:23 PM
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I do poorly on dating apps but have uninspiring pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:26 PM
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Yeah but at a party with 20 men and 20 women where 1 women approaches me then thats still just 5%. It doesn’t happen in very small gatherings Theres a selfie of me on my profile btw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:17 PM
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“Just be special Bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:09 PM
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If life was just chaos we wouldn’t have modern civilization. Yes romance can’t be simplified down to a mathematical formula but generalized trends DO exist. The only way some people even figure out how attractive they are is by analysing their experiences over the years compared to their peers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:00 PM
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“Many” can mean 60%, 90% or 99%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:52 PM
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I mean yeah but trends exist? The larger a sample the more accurately you can make statistical inferences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:49 PM
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I’m not, but a claim like “women are only visually attracted to 1%-2% of men” kind of implies a lot of overlap between individual women’s 1-2%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:47 PM
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Ok so what do you think? That women only find a very small number if men appealing or a large amount?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:37 PM
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That doesn’t dispute the CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:33 PM
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Don’t see your point exactly? I’ve gone out enough to know it happens to me decently frequently, the caveat was mostly to say I haven’t had a huge amount of approaches cause I haven’t been out enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:32 PM
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Im talking purely in real life. Obviously dating apps are a completely different beast driven primarily by a massive gender imbalance and male swiping tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:30 PM
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Yeah that’s more in line with what I’d expect, and since there is subjectivity it makes sense that an average guy will be approached sometimes because he might fall into some women’s 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:29 PM
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Hinge does have an annoyingly small daily like limit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:32 PM
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How many guys do you swipe right on (roughly) and how attractive are these guys compared to the average guy in your age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:52 AM
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This would make sense if the women I was sleeping with were submissive, but they weren't. Even the ones who slept with me on the first/second date and were clearly very attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:52 AM
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