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| 152 | The brunt of disrespectful and relentless sexual harassment falls on women percieved as attainable rather than exceptionally attractive. | CMV | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/21 12:41 AM |
| 70 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do? | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 02:18 AM | |
| 27 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected? | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 03:01 AM | |
| 9 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner? | Question For Men | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:18 AM |
| 9 | When you are considering a woman for marriage, how long do you prefer to wait before you have sex? And how long would you be willing to wait? | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/20 08:18 PM | |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the "alpha" the loser? | Question For RP Men | pongaminbloom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 03:31 AM |
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| 3 | Tinder Outcome Related Data Puts the 'Chad Harems' Notion Into QuestionThis is unsurprising because people do not like sharing partners. How could 20% of men manage to date 80% of women? It's hard enough for them to juggle 2. They know if they date other people, their partners will either leave or expect to do the same. The double standard only works in relation to the past. There is a difference from getting most of the matches and actually dating most of the girls. Every girl might (theoretically) swipe right on a guy, but they aren't all going to date him. Most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 03:05 PM |
| 6 | Leonardo DiCaprio and his girlfriend breaking surprised absolutely no one, however is the whole “no over 25 rule” intentional?Yeah, it's intentional. His girlfriends are like fashion accessories that maintain his image: sort of like India Jones signature hat or Bugs Bunny's carrot. They gotta have some sort of looks-related prestige (e.g. being a Victoria's Secret model; appearing in Vogue) AND they have to be an age that is stereotypically the best. Plus, they are all beautiful in the same, supermodel manner. There is no variety, even though I'm sure he has been attracted to equally beautiful women that look different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4women: You’re out with a male friend and your purse gets snatched in a mall, do you expect him to chase after the thief?Yes. I would chase the perp. if either one of us were mugged. If he stays behind quivering, he's a wimp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?The concept of "Alpha widow" makes it sound like getting hung up on ex boyfriends/husbands/crushes is something only women do. Men do that too. By the time you're in your mid twenties, almost everyone has a high school/college girlfriend they remember being more attractive than you, or a "good friend" of the opposite sex they have beta-orbited for 15+ years, or an ex wife/girlfriend who was their first and greatest love, or a one-that-got-away that they obsessively idealize. Keeping an open hear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Have you ever been pumped and dumped?Depends on the man's options and intentions as much as the woman's value. Rich men and celebs can breeze through thousands of keepers knowing that there will aways be another when they want to settle down. A normal guy doesn't have the same guarantee. If he scores a keeper, he will consider putting a ring on it. At the very least he will "commit" to a situationship. Similarly, when penny stock dates other penny stock, they might marry and make baby pennies. They might also opt for "committed" si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Has cheating become normalized for TRP married men?You're Ex wife sounds rotten. Sorry you had to deal with her. Please don't make her the poster girl for womenkind. That's like making Bill Clinton the poster husband. There are both men and women who feel tempted to cheat; that isn't a tendency confined to one gender. These people want both a stable committed partner, and someone/s on the side. Some cave to their desires while others don't. "When women are ovulating they look to get pregnant by the more fit male." Think again. Even women that wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Has cheating become normalized for TRP married men?"A woman withholding sex and refuses to mitigate or improve has broken her monogamous deal, cheating is no longer cheating as the deal is no longer in effect. " Would you be equally lenient if it was the husband withholding sex and the wife going behind his back? Also, don't other considerations apply? What if one partner is unhappy with the other partner's appearance? There was one old man that posted "How can I tell my wife I am repulsed by her saggy tits?" I'm guessing he wanted to stop being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 01:36 AM |
| 2 | There is no fundamental difference between a "fuckboy" and woman serial dater.There is a huge difference between thinking you can "exchange" sex for commitment and wanting a partner that shares your desire to commit. Most women and a sizable minority of men view sex as intimate. They won't do it outside of commitment unless they think it is a "test drive" or "first step". If you convince them to become intimate outside of a commitment the flood of oxytocin that results will cause them to have feelings for you. Some people don't realize that humans exist that can experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/22 05:47 AM |
| 10 | What are your thoughts on FDS? Are men over reacting or are they actual toxic?FDS is beyond toxic. It's all about manipulating and using men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 03:28 AM |
| 4 | Complaints about the friendzone and about being used for sex are just as entitled as each other, either they're both entitled or none of them are.The correct target for complaint isn't a lack of romantic interest. It is a lack of honesty or empathy for the other person. When people lead each other on, knowing the other person will end up heartbroken, that is worthy of complaint. The more grievous the manipulation tactics, the more reasonable the complaint is. If a man tells a woman he loves her, uses her for sex, and then leaves her crying out in the rain, I sympathize with her, not him. If he is too sensitive to withstand my disapproval,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: How important are your preferences?Clicking as a friend doesn't create attraction by itself, even though I wish it did. Preference matter for determining whether my feelings are going to be platonic or romantic. However, there are very few preferences that are absolute. Whether I'm attracted to someone is less about them hitting everything on a checklist, than hitting just enough of them. Someone can be wayyy off on a lot of these things and still hit my ultimate attractiveness bar. That's not just a cope, as it applies to men I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 08:27 PM |
| 2 | The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it?It's an option to elope. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/22 06:40 AM |
| 9 | The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it?What bothers me about modern dating is that men are saying marriage is "just a piece of paper," and pressuring women not to want it. Marriage is not made of paper. It represents the creation of a family. The mutual agreement to officially become family is the only way to socially differentiate a true lifelong commitment from a situationship. Even if marriages can end in divorce, at least a divorced person has documentation of past commitment. A man that "doesn't like labels" can make it look lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Women only please: Would you stay with a guy who never wanted to get married?No way. People who profess lifelong commitment but don't want to get married are self-contradicting. You never see adoptive parents refuse to sign adoption papers. If you are really making someone your family, you're not going to balk at their request to make it official. "Weddings are so expensive!" and "I can't afford an engagement ring!" are just excuses. There is no law saying you need to buy a diamond ring or have an expensive ceremony. You can elope and skip the rings altogether if you nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 05:36 AM |
| 2 | What standards are TOO high?I wouldn't say nothing is too high. Some high value people are single because they have such a list of compatibility requirements that the probability of anyone meeting them all is nonexistent. Once source of unreasonable expectations is the expectation of never having to compromise. In real relationship, you will always find yourself doing unselfish things. You start making the bed the way they like it because you know it's important to them. You share your house with your partner's loyal rat, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 03:46 AM |
| 4 | What standards are TOO high?Generally, you know your standards are too high when none of your options can meet them. The two exceptions to this are (1) When it is better to be single than to drop a given standard, and/or (2) when there is a good reason to believe that you will be able to find someone that meets your standard later. A good example of a standard that fits both exception criteria is that you will not put up with someone abusive. Even if you currently have no options (that you know of) besides your abusive ex,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Women demand a traditional man, but do nothing to be a traditional woman themselves. This is the source of their dating woes. OP: "They, like their mothers, probably work a 9-5 and make $40,000 to $60,000 a year. Just enough to maintain their existence without a man in their life, take 1-2 vacations a year, have some hobbies" Also OP " either women begin to be more traditional and fill their typical gender roles to attract more traditional men, or they begin to date their equals which would be non-traditional men such as unemployed men, low earning men, drug users, sex/porn addicts, short/high pitched voice men, etc.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | This is probably one of the worst places to ask: but men/women, what types of messages get girls to actually meet up on dating apps?It's not just about what you write, it's also about (1) timing (2) how good your profile is. If a match messages me while I'm online I respond 100% of the time. Most dating websites have some means of showing you when your matches are online. The most effective way to get a high response rate is to only send the first message when the other person is online the same time as you. Your message can be as simple as "Hi, How are you." If you don't send the message when the other person is online, low… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 07:44 PM |
| 2 | What is the right amount of dates do you think a woman should wait before having sex with you?If she does that, she will wrack up an n-count of infinity. Three dates is is too short a time to know if someone has long term potential. Wasting an "n" on someone who might leave soon afterwards is not worth it in the long run. You would end up on the "whore" end of the Madonna/whore complex that deep down, nearly all men possess. Would you consider a serious relationship with a women who slept with every suitor she had three or more dates with? Most guys would only pursue her for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Not Only Conservatives, Feminists Too Want to Police and Control SexualityI don't believe for a minute that Ansari was trying to use his "power of celebrity". He was assuming his date would say "no" if she wanted him to stop. He felt terrible about it after he knew her true feelings. I also don't buy it that his celebrity-status had anything to do with her decision to tell Twitter instead of him. If you're comfortable sharing your personal business with the entire world (celebrities included), you are perfectly capable of telling the person who really needs to know. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 10:59 PM |
| 0 | Not Only Conservatives, Feminists Too Want to Police and Control SexualityNo. A number can't tell you if a relationship is dysfunctional. Nor do you need one. You already know. Is someone being used, abused, manipulated, exploited and/or taken advantage of? Is there a power imbalance being leveraged? A psychologist having an affair with her patient, a professor seducing his student, a CEO boning his intern, a pastor using religion to subjugate his wife, and cops ploughing suspects in their custody are all abusing their power. A person who gaslights, lies, manipulates,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 02:39 AM |
| -1 | Not Only Conservatives, Feminists Too Want to Police and Control SexualityTrue: Age gap relationships aren't always dysfunctional. However, in sometimes, one party exerts the same type of control over the other party that parents exercise over children. The vulnerable one's "own decisions" are all directed by the more powerful one. True: This isn't a issue for law enforcement.To overrule someone's decisions on the grounds of external manipulation would shift control to the state, not the person that is supposedly being liberated. However, it's perfectly ok for civilia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Do women care less about men body count than men care about women ?It depends on why he is a virgin. If he's a virgin because he is saving sex for that special someone, or he is born into a community where casual sex isn't allowed, or his job has been all consuming, his virginity is desirable. It will make him value and love you more. If he is a virgin because he is an incel, the opposite is true. Have sex with a guy who has been rejected by everyone and you are the biggest slut in the world to him. Even if you wait til marriage, he will disrespect you for bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 12:30 AM |
| 13 | Women don't actually care *that* much about being "pumped and dumped." If they did, they would withhold sex until receiving whatever degree of commitment they want to be tied to sex.Yes, they care. Their mistake many of them make is that they think sex is part of an an audition for commitment. Men often require no strings to start out with, claiming that if it "works out" it will lead to what she is seeking. That's a lie. If they are able to pressure you into sex without commitment, they will lose respect and use you. A lot of men will also fake commitment. They will say "I love you", treat her like a girl friend, call her their girlfriend, and even talk about marriage if i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Is it really over after a failed “shit test”?Yes, it is over. I don't make or tolerate "shit tests". If I can't trust someone to express his real feelings/preferences/expectations, I cannot have a healthy relationship with him. I would be forced to walk on eggshells and waste immense amounts of time and energy analysing everything he says and does for hidden meaning. E.g How can I know he really means x? Maybe he really wants me to do y to prove z. I don't have the emotional bandwidth to play those games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 06:02 PM |
| 3 | RP going mainstream, MGTOW, FDS will lead to marriage ceasing to existYou gotta get off the computer and go outside more. This stuff is always going to be fringe. MGTOW especially. Most of them are choosing to eliminate their genes from the gene pool, and nearly all who accidentally reproduce are deadbeats. Mosr view traditionally feminine workers with disrespect (e.g. nannies, teachers, daycare workers, and primary caregivers most of all). They think this work is below them. Consequently, they will not influence later generations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 01:48 AM |
| 12 | Women should do the "Pig Woman Experiment" on dating apps to really appreciate how worthless 'validation' is.I don't need to make a fake profile to know that men wanting to hook up with me isn't "validation". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 01:31 AM |
| – | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?Believing in someone before anyone else did, standing by his side in his darkest hour, weathering the storm with him, being his rock, loving him unconditionally and empowering him to make his dreams a reality--that is what women are taught to do. In the Bible, Eve is made out of Adam's rib as a " suitable helper". I always imagined that is what I would be. I would feel guilty if I were to benefit from a fortune I had no part in making. Furthermore, I imagine that if I am faithful to a with a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 09:54 PM |
| 4 | What adds to n-count, in your opinion?So, those people at sea world who harvest whale sperm are technically adding to their n-count? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 06:25 PM |
| – | Women's standards ("the bar") are indeed low, but not for the reasons you thinkI agree casual sex is an unbelievably terrible idea. People are choosing hookups based on looks and then thoughtlessly partner with whomever they are hooking up with. Hellish relationships and divorce-bound bound marriages predictably result. However, that is not the only way people end up with bad partners. Lonely insecure people will pair up with anyone they think loves and validates them. Also, some women are are under so much pressure to marry before a certain age that they will rush to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 09:37 PM |
| – | Women's standards ("the bar") are indeed low, but not for the reasons you thinkTrue for mutually-casual sex. Wrong for percieved relationships. Any man with acting skills good enough to make a woman feel loved and special can get away with anything. The poorer they are (or pretend to be) the better players they are. They can pretend they are invested in the relationship even while they are mooching. For example, they might say, "I wish I could afford to buy you a ring." Or, "If I ever get rich, I will take you on a romantic vacation to Hawaii." That has the same emotional … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Is "No Hookups" a rule or a challenge?The reason she writes "no hookups" is that men reading her profile don't know her. This is not indicative that a hookup was ever "on the table." It's a pre-emptive correction for men who assume it is by default. If these men want their time and monetary "investment" to always lead to sex, they shouldn't be swiping right on women who explicitly state they don't want to hook up. Also, if men want women to respect it when they say "I don't want anything serious," they need to respect it when women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 02:18 AM |
| 3 | Advice for the women out there: No, men are not on dating apps for sex only, you are simply matching with guys way out of your leagueI'm awake. She loves him. Neither were settling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 02:46 AM |
| 12 | Advice for the women out there: No, men are not on dating apps for sex only, you are simply matching with guys way out of your leagueActually, 22% of married couples meet online. https://www.theknot.com/content/dating-apps-marriage One of them is my aunt and uncle. They love each other and have a happy marriage. Quit telling women everyone who pursues them is out of their "league". Just because you make them feel undesirable doesn't mean they are going to settle for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/21 10:25 PM |
| – | Getting the girls you don't want / Not getting the girls you wantIt depends on the person. Sometimes it's just a matter of marketing. Being hard to get makes you appear to have more options and higher value. Being "easy" for the one you adore and "coy" for the people who are not your type is the best way to be perpetually single and frustrated. You need to cultivate mystery. A second reason some people seem to attract all the wrong suiters is that they behave in dysfunctional ways towards those they want to date. They might be obsessive, co-dependent, showoff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What is the difference between the kind of woman a man dates to pass the time and the woman he invests in and commits to?It doesn't matter what random men answer (especially on a sub dominated by the chronically single). It matters what the men you are dating would answer. Are they looking for something serious with you, or just passing time? If they say what you want to hear, but their actions don't match their words, CONTROL+ ALT+DELETE. I've found that men are highly influenced what men before them have done, said, and thought. If you tell them about problems getting men to commit, they will become biased to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 03:58 AM |
| 4 | What separates Flirting from just being Friendly?Because being nice and providing good service isn't flirting, just because some guy might think it is. Flirting for tips, sales or approval is still something some people do. Airlines used to even require it. When my grandma was a young stewardess, she was not allowed to date, because having the stewardesses be pretty and single was part of the draw. Even when flirting isn't required, people have figured out that people trying to woo the opposite sex are quick to open their pocketbooks. For exam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 03:46 AM |
| 16 | What separates Flirting from just being Friendly?Flirting is more about intent than particular actions. When someone is showing you non-platonic interest or playing like they are interested that's flirting. When people complain their kindness is mistaken for flirting, that means their intent was misinterpreted. Misinterpretation happens because people have different personalities. For example, some women only giggle incessantly if they are romantically interested in someone. Others giggles 24/7 no matter who they are talking to. Some men only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:49 PM |
| 2 | What separates Flirting from just being Friendly?Some are just doing their jobs. Some joke about intentionally flirting to get better tips. They'll also present common courtesies and stuff that comes with the meal like they are doing something special for a particular favored customer. Sometimes it backfires because if the one who is paying thinks the wait staff is coming on to their significant other, they will leave no tip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsIt is not a matter of whether men pay. It is a matter of which men (and women). If the man who said "I'll pull out, I promise!" and "I'll always be there for you, baby," can leave his ex girlfriend pregnant in minimum wage single parent poverty, then taxpayers will end up paying for welfare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 12:19 AM |
| 3 | Financial Abortion and deadbeat dadsMy Great Grandpa did this to his daughter, my Grandpa. He was abscent her whole life, but then when she was self sufficient he popped up again and wanted to tell her what to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Seems like men are wanting a woman with a low N count who will sleep with him on the second date...wait, what?When they say you will only attract low value, desperate men, do they mean toads and snails? It doesn't seem possible to go lower than these men you are describing. Men who use emotional battery as their primary seduction tactics have major insecurities. Instead of having sex to feel something wonderful: love, pleasure, excitement, etc. they want you to have it to mitigate something painful they are creating. They try to convince you it is all you are good for, or you somehow owe them, or you ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 02:03 AM |
| 3 | From an evolutionary perspective, do most adult women (20+) like beard or clean shaven?I favor an attractively cut, well cared for beard or goatee on men capable of growing a good facial hair. The most attractive way to grow a beard usually concentrates on the front of the chin and the upper lip. An under-chin and cheek beard makes a lot of people look like they have no chin, and it hides the structure of their jaw. Unless you have absolutely no chin or jaw structure to lose, that's not a flattering look. Neck beards are the absolute worse. You need to continue shaving neck hair e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 07:42 PM |
| 3 | Why don't younger men ever blame their singlehood on older men who are dating younger women?Its a matter of men and women tending to reach their prime at different ages. Women's prime is at prime beauty, and youthfulness is part of beauty. Men's prime involves status as well as looks, and looks are not dependant on extreme youth. Most couples are close to the same age. Others are a man in his prime with a young woman in her prime. Broke, immature, pre-prime men and post menopausal women are the ones most likely to end up single, and they are not interested in each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Which is a better strategy to get a man, FDS or redpillwomen?Neither. The result of both outlooks is a toxic, unbalanced relationships. The FDS instructs women :"Don't love men". They value men only for what they can get out of them. Red pill women take the opposite extreme. They value themself based on what men think. They act like doormats and let men control them. Ironically, red pill men and FDS women both use a lot of the same dysfunctional tactics: They spin plates, play dread games, neg, and branch swing/ pump and dump.They act as though the oposit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:33 AM |
| 2 | What leads a girl to befriend young men and avoid female friends?Masculinity, sexual orientation, autism, baggage, and competition are the five major reasons some women have mostly male friends. Some women genuinely prefer the kind of things men like, and they want to find friends that share those interests. These will be friends with one another if they meet, but there isn't always two in one place. Lesbians prefer male friends because those are the friends they won't develop romantic feelings for. It's just less complicated. Lesbian and bisexual women in ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:31 AM |
| 10 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think."One week the argument is that men hit the wall too, and they go on about how ugly older men are." Ugly to late teen/early 20s women--not to women their own age, or even women a decade younger. Many RP men act as though it's common for young women to be attracted to men old enough to be their fathers. That's false. The percentage of young women willing to consider a middle aged man is small. The percentage of middle aged men able to interest that small percentage is even smaller. "The next week,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Assuming you are an attractive guy, what are places to look for long lasting relationships?College, grad school, med school, law school etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Two rational but opposing hypothesis about beautiful women.The rule works within the same person even more than between people. When someone who normally puts care in their appearance shows up looking unkept, they are pretty much always in a bad mood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Two rational but opposing hypothesis about beautiful women.Both hypotheses base their reasoning on the assumption that men and/or the general public create woman's personalities. That is simply false. Inborn traits, parents and other relatives, health, and close friends and relationships are more influential in creating who we are. Plenty of "ugly" people and beautiful people have amazing personalities. If there was any correlation between good looks and personality, it is because there are many things that positively impact both; mental and physical he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 08:42 PM |
| 23 | Do you think beauty is subjective or objective?Both. Some aspects of beauty are biologically ingrained, because they indicate normal development, good health, fitness, youth and fertility. Other aspects are more subjective. They are influenced by things like imprinting, culture, and your feelings about people exhibiting them. People become more pleasant to look at as you grow to like them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves."If they were real options, she'd be married." That makes no sense. By the time you know someone well enough to get engaged, there is no "they". You have been dating just him for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.A made up dichotomy between dominant and meek men. In reality, alpha and beta traits are not fixed. As men gain confidence and status, they become more alpha. As they age, or experience downward mobility, they mellow out and become betas. Also, the same person might be an alpha in one circumstance and beta in another. A star quarterback for example might be alpha on the football field but beta at work when he's saying "Would you like fries with that?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.Knowing that they have more options than you think they deserve is not being egotistical. Those men who are her options are certainly to "blame" for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 01:11 AM |
| 4 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.You talk like women are objects rather than humans. Seriously, why would a woman even want to marry someone like that? It doesn't sound like there is potential here for love and respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 01:07 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]Whats your thoughts when you hear “dating down” or “dating up”?"it's offensive to the less good-looking guy." The guy who gets fast sex isn't necessarily better looking. More often he took advantage of her being inexperienced, gullible or drunk. He also might have pressured her into intimacy. "The woman is basically saying that the commitment guy isn't hot enough." No, it's saying that she doesn't want to have casual sex anymore (assuming she ever really did). The rational thing to do when you regret something is to not do it again. Casual sex is supremely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:44 AM |
| 0 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexCause and effect go in both directions. An incel who likes average women turns to porn when he can't get one. Then the porn makes him lose interest in average women. That decreases his chances of sucess going forwards, leading to more porn and more unrealistic expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexWhat can I say? Jerks come in all genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexWow, sorry. I didn't mean to make a sweeping generalization. I said porn makes choosy beggars, not "all sexually unsuccessful men are choosy beggars". They are not. I am trying to say people whose only sexual experience comes from porn are hard pressed to get an accurate picture. They are swimming in images of barely legal women in the top 2% of attractiveness with surgically altered genitals. Average women look pathetic and attractive women look average. That's where you get the common incel pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexThat is for men who actually have real life sex. For incels, the influence is even worse. Porn makes men who have trouble finding partners into choosy beggers. You never hear Chad calling healthy women landwhales, or ranting about roast beef, or shaming women for c-section scars. That's all incel stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:49 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?I don't understand the animosity that people feel towards people who are mistreated. Victims of fraud and abuse shouldn't be shamed for what someone else does to them. If a particular woman has done something wrong, that is a separate matter. It doesn't make her responsible for another person's behavior. It certainly doesn't reflect on other women who are nothing like her. There isn't just one type of women who struggles to find a good man. They might be (1) Women living in poor areas of town wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 04:45 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of the population truly do not want to couple? How many can maintain a ‘happy’ marriage 30 plus years?It's not co-dependence to want to stay together. Loving a spouse is like loving any other family member. You're not going to stop loving your children when they grow up. You won't even stop loving your dog. Why do so many couples stop loving each other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 08:53 PM |
| 12 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?I wouldn't date a 50 year old at 31. At 20, The mere thought of it would have made me puke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:46 AM |
| 2 | If A Woman You Date Says "I Don't Fuck On The ______ Date" Then She Is STRICTLY Fuck Zone MaterialExactly! We are talking about strangers here. They expect you to have sex on the first date because others have. What these girls are trying to do is let OP know that then taking things slow doesn't signify a lack of interest. They are also thanking him for not acting like a bull moose. Then he responds to their consideration by "stringing them along" for sex... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Are dick pics as common as people think they are?Ewwww | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 11:28 PM |
| 4 | Are dick pics as common as people think they are?I know most men don't do that. The few that do are just crazy prolific. A LOT of women get dicks in their DMs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Are different understandings of what is meant by “good” confusing the landscape?When women say they want "a good man" they mean a man who treats them well and isn't a fuckboy. That's where a lot of men get confused. They think being "good" is going to get them laid. They are completely missing the point. The desire for a "good man" is the desire for a good long term partner. If all you want with Becky is to weasel your way into her bed, spread your STDs and break her heart, neither she nor her friends and family will see you as a "good man" for her. Most women are able to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?"I chose to not marry and i don't want kids. There's little to no reward and too much risk for us..." Wow. The same man that said "If you provided something valuable to these men besides sex they would stay with you and start a family" now admits that he doesn't want a family, and that he has chosen never to marry. Can you see how your original statement could be misleading? You not wanting kids and not wanting to take the risk of signing that contract has absolutely nothing to do with a woman's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 03:42 PM |
| 22 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?When a man isn't married at 35+ , it's usually because he doesn't want to commit to anyone long term. When a woman is single over 30 (or even 25) it's more often because she wasted large amounts of time in "relationships" with the aforementioned men. As a general rule, women want their college relationships to lead to marriage. A lot of men would rather keep playing the field as long as they have game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?"A high value man can treat her like garbage and she will still suck him dry and call him daddy. " Before a man (or woman) can get away with treating their partners like garbage, they have to suck them in with lies and charm. It's called love bombing. "You expect a man to be okay with his future wife fucking new dudes every week right now? " No. I said the opposite. I said it is better NOT to have sex with people who don't value you. In the end, the only lover we will not regret is going to be o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?"Any woman whose a 3 or above can still have as much sex with guys above her SMV as she wants." So? I'm asking why a woman you don't value would even want to have sex with you. She is better off saving it for someone who loves her. Are you aware that women have feelings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?That's been asked and answered many times. All answers are shot down by men who only want sex. The question here is, why do you expect women whose time, love, commitment you don't value to sleep with you? Why not save herself the pain and keep her n count low for the person who will value her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?"Men do not have to prove anything to females, we built the world" What have you personally done to build the world that you think is better than what women are contributing? "If you provide something valuable to these men besides sex..." What she's asking is why should women provide the sex if you don't think anything else they have to offer is valuable? Women who refuse to sleep with men who only want one thing from them are accused of being "entitled to commitment". Really, the men are acting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 02:44 PM |
| 1 | What do you bring to the table?Relationships aren't transactions where you bring one thing to the table to get something else. You give commitment to someone for commitment in return; time in exchange for time; and love in exchange for love. If you don't desire (or do not appreciate) a woman's time, love, and commitment enough to consider them worthy of your own, there isn't much point in staying together. Even if someone is able to compensate for the low value you put on her heart, it isn't worth it to do so. If you don't bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Women dating men less attractive than them generally means there's some flaw or cost that is leading to the discount"discount" This is so disgustingly disrespectful. Being in a relationship is not selling yourself. "there is some flaw or cost" So what if there is. Maybe she's got something she's facing that limits her options. Maybe there isn't. What matters is whether they love each other and how they treat each other. Maybe instead of there being something wrong with the woman, there is something right for her about the man. People aren't defined entirely by their looks and bank statements. How could they b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 12:24 AM |
| 7 | Births fall to 42-year low in U.S., new CDC data shows!Maybe because married couples are stuck at home with nothing to do but make babies. I'd think Covid would increase married pregnancies and decrease teen and single pregnancies. Considering how many babies are made by accident, that would be an overall decrease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 10:59 PM |
| -1 | Q4all: Do men have a moral obligation to physically protect women in dangerous situations?Of course it does. If you are complicit in a murder you could have stopped, you can get charged with accessory to murder or even manslaughter depending on the circumstances. There are also mandatory reporting laws when it comes to child abuse. Even in risky situations where you are not legally obligated to help, you are considered morally obligated to do what is in your power. Someone who leaves a baby in a burning building, watches a man get beaten to death, or does nothing while a woman is bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 02:15 PM |
| 2 | The distinction between the Nice Guy^TMs and genuinely nice guys is irrelevant if women don't value either of themThere is nothing "nice" about sexually pursuing a women who isn't attracted to you. Whether you're being mean or doing "nice" things for her with unspoken expectations, you're being a jerk. If you want to barter favors for sex, you have to be open about it. Just because you might think sex with someone is only worth a 10 dollar dinner, doesn't mean the exchange would be worth it for her. Also, women do like genuinely nice guys, whether or not they want to have sex with them. Quit trying to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 08:59 PM |
| 17 | Study: Children of older fathers are less attractive. Maternal age has no effect on attractiveness.Sperm (and eggs) accumulate mutations over time increasing the risk of a disease causing mutation. Whether mutations are what causes the old father-"ugly" kid correlation, I'm not sure. I doubt it. You would expect that if mutated sperm commonly made ugly babies, mutated eggs would do the same. In this study, only the age of the father made a difference. It seems more likely that ugly men with income potential chose to postpone marriage and childbearing until after they are rich enough to attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/21 03:11 PM |
| 1 | When women get dry during sex, he's bad in bed?I would guess! I still want to try in a lake in the middle of the night someday. I've done it on a dock in a thunderstorm in a closed park at 2 am. Luckily, there was no one to kick us out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/21 01:13 AM |
| 1 | When women get dry during sex, he's bad in bed?Never. Wetness isn't a reflection of enjoyment. There is nothing sexy about a pap smear given by a female doctor. It hurts, it's awkwards, and I'm not attracted to women. I still don't need lube. The way my vagina works is it gets wet whenever I anticipate something entering that could cause friction. This includes speculums and even paper tampon applicators. Ironically, I sometimes remain dry when I give myself a cliteral orgasm. I've just conditioned my body to know what's going on. It knows n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/21 10:37 PM |
| 0 | How do you feel about changing the legal definition of rape to include “forcing to penetrate”?Any intercourse without consent is Sexual Assault. The argument that men aren't effected like women is a dangerous generalization. Yes, some men happily brag that they woke up to a hot woman on top of them. That doesn't mean every man would approve of every person banging him in his sleep. I say person because most force-to-penetrate offenders are other men. Those thirsty men who don't want to discourage a woman from raping them should consider whether keeping that option open would be worth wak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]Whats your thoughts when you hear “dating down” or “dating up”?Most women don't want to be pumped and dumped. The only way to prevent that from happening is to not have sex right away. If the guy really wants to be with you, he will stay. If he just wants a pump and dump, he can get right to the dump part. Short term partners aren't worth the STD risk, and long term partners that only want one thing aren't worth the heartache. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 03:35 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]Whats your thoughts when you hear “dating down” or “dating up”?That's a problem. If the woman knows her boyfriend defines his relationship with her as "jumping through hoops to get sex" , she's not going to stick around. Imagine a guy is only taking me places, spending his evenings with me, talking to me on the phone, telling me he loves me and meeting each others family because he wants to have sex. Then I find out and leave without giving it to him. Do you think I'm going to gloat because I got his time for nothing. No, I'm going to feel like I wasted MY … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 09:09 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]Whats your thoughts when you hear “dating down” or “dating up”?"When it comes to just sex, men can be attracted to women who are inferior to them in every way." So? Men on here keep saying they pump and dump women who they consider below them. They are not less willing to commit to or be seen with people below their league. The difference is that they define women's leagues more through looks than income. Most women don't want casual sex, but those that do are no different than the men who do. For a discrete hookup, they prioritize looks over education and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 12:49 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]Whats your thoughts when you hear “dating down” or “dating up”?Men are equally likely to want to date up "when it comes to something". It's just usually a different something. Men most commonly choose looks, social connections, popularity, and youth. Women are more likely to value leadership, socioeconomic status, talent and/or prestige. When a man cares about a woman's income, it's always because he wants or needs the money. The mere idea that she makes more would not be sexy. Nor would the idea of her making less be a turnoff. Many women, in contrast, are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Do guys prefer girls who play hard to get, or girls who simp for them?Conquer? I've never understood that. If he's really a good catch and he's her type, why would there have to be a conquest? ...Unless she is pursuing his affection by playing hard to get. That is what dads teach their daughters to do. It's also what most dudes think is happening when women are trying to show them they are genuinely not interested. Dating is so complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 11:09 PM |
| 8 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?No. Women should be honest too. But, how does Stacy misleading you justify you misleading Beaky? That isn't justice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 09:17 PM |
| 3 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?Both genders have a dual mating strategy if they engage in casual sex. They sleep with whom they want to sleep with, then they marry whom they think would be the best spouse and parent. That's exactly what OP is doing. He sees some women as sex and some as future wives. Hope he is honest early on and his hookups just want to hook up too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 09:11 PM |
| 29 | As women outpace men in college degrees, will blue collar men still stand a chance in the dating market?Yes, blue collar men stand a chance because not everyone with a college degree ends up successful. People with degrees in things like Art, History, Ethnic Studies and Political Science often end up working in dead end jobs that you don't need a degree for. Blue coller workers with vocational skills make more money. What's going to end up happening is the plumbers, electricians, welders etc. are going to marry women with liberal arts degrees. Then the women will be primary caregivers while the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.They are the preference if they belong to someone you love. I don't understand where purplepillers get the idea that most women are dissatisfied with their partners appearance. You never hear married women complaining about that. Small dick, shrunken balls, and fat jokes only happen after divorces where the man cheats. They are sour grapes based in women's own body image issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.Yeah, some are getting it every day. Single "chads" have to spend a large amount of time at bars and venues getting rejected between each successful pickup. They rarely get as much sex as they want outside relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.If you start off attracted to him and the honeymoon period ends, I wouldn't say you don't love him romantically anymore. It's just a different kind of romantic bond. People start having sex for the bonding, oxytocin and endorphines rather than the dopamine and norepinephrine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 04:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't wait for men at the finish line"Women who got their shit together usually don’t want a project." They don't want a NEEP or someone with major emotional problems. Plenty want to date med students, law students, interns and low level employees. In fact, almost all young women date fellow students. They would rather have someone their age who they are attracted than an older man with money. "Do men pursue obese women at the gym? Even though she’s working on looking better?" No, they hit on fat women at the gym because they are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 01:02 AM |
| 4 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.Yup. For these guys, love=sex. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 12:39 AM |
| 14 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.Yet genuinely nice men with "dad bods" make up the majority of people who are loved and have families. The "high standards" you speak of are shallow standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 11:23 PM |
| 17 | Women aren't attracted to dad-bods. Women are unattracted to the expectations of fit men.Some of you get mad about the weirdest things. What's wrong with average people saying they are attracted to each other's body type? Not everyone wants what they can't get. Some develop fondness for what they have. That's especially true when people fall in love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever broken up with someone and regretted and then they wouldn’t take you back?Yep. That has been my experience. We end up breaking up twice over the same thing they promised to stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 11:39 PM |
| 14 | Have you ever broken up with someone and regretted and then they wouldn’t take you back?Nope. I have the opposite problem. I take exs back and always regret it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 09:36 PM |
| 6 | Testing how many couples are looksmatched based on random video of guy walking through city"women don't show their true looks so a slightly below average woman will land an average man of she lies with make up." Right. Women get men to commit to them before they have shown what they look like without makeup. Then when the man sees, he is shocked: "She tricked me! I never would have chosen her if I knew what she really looked like." Then they stay together. LMAO That's nuts. Also, imagine both men were forced to have natural faces: no more shaving neckhair or styling facial hair. Think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 04:18 AM |
| 6 | Testing how many couples are looksmatched based on random video of guy walking through cityIf the average guy isn't better looking than the average girl, how is the average girlfriend less attractive than the average boyfriend? You know the sex ratio is close to 1:1 in most countries. Also, the number of males and females in heterosexual monogamous relationships is necessarily the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 02:25 AM |
| 6 | Testing how many couples are looksmatched based on random video of guy walking through cityCouples are usually looksmatched at the beginning. Plus, if one lives a healthy lifestyle and puts effort into their appearance, the other is less likely to let themself go. If ranks shift later in life, couples with good relationships remain together. The honeymoon period is long over by then anyways. There are exceptions like Leo DeCaprio who serial dates blond underwear models between the ages of 19 and 25. I honestly think they choose girlfriends for PR purposes. If it was about chemistry th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Testing how many couples are looksmatched based on random video of guy walking through cityDoes that mean you judge the average man to be more attractive than the average woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 01:15 AM |
| 0 | AskMen post discussion"No men loses attraction when a woman pursues him." Wrong. Most men want what they can't have. "That's bullshit you tell yourselves as an excuse not to do it." I don't need an "excuse" not to pursue men because that's not something I'm obligated to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 12:00 AM |
| 3 | AskMen post discussionYou are talking to the person who made a heart shaped cheesecake and wrote a poem for a boyfriend on Valentines day. I like romance. It's just not socially acceptable unless you're committed. Even the men that say they want to be pursued would probably lose respect if it happened. The most extreme disrespect I got in my life was after I gave a food valentine to a flirty male friend in college. It was a bananna I drew up to look like a fish with a goofy face. It had red fins and the "Happy valent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 08:25 PM |
| 2 | AskMen post discussionI think it is mostly betas that want to be treated like women. Most men want to be the pursuers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 05:34 PM |
| 4 | AskMen post discussionAs a woman, the reason I don't do a lot of romantic things has nothing to do with laziness or entitlement. I would be amazing at it if that was an attractive thing to do. Trouble is, it isn't. When an unmarried women does something for a man, she is percieved as desperate and unfeminine. Men lose attraction, lose respect, and even get scared off when they feel like women are pursuing them. After marriage, roles reverse. The woman remembers every anniversary, makes romantic dinners, beautifully w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Why is a woman's lack of sexual experience considered attractive but a men's inexperience considered unnatractive?Yeah, the vicious cycle is a real thing. I developed social anxiety in my teens when unspoken expectations, judgementalism, and passive agression entered the picture. I had pre-existing social skills and lost the ability to use them. The anxiety was so debilitating. I can't imagine what it would be like to be an outcast at a young age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 01:28 AM |
| 3 | Why is a woman's lack of sexual experience considered attractive but a men's inexperience considered unnatractive?Lack of sexual experience isn't unattractive in a man in of itself. It just usually correlates with undesirable things: porn addiction, religious fundementalism, purile attitude towards sex, lack of attraction to the women attainable to him, body image issues etc. Plus, no one wants to be the one who breaks it to you that everyday women don't look like porn stars. Seeing a virgin man's sketchbook full of what he thinks surgically un-altered adult vaginas look like was a major turnoff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 01:02 AM |
| 2 | What is more evil lying about marriage intentions or blackmail man into marriageRefusing to have sex with you outside marriage isn't forcing you into marriage. If you are desperate enough to marry someone you didn't love for any reason, that is your fault. You're not even the victim if that happens. I would feel sorry for your wife because you married her just to get in her pants. That is as bad as when gold diggers marry men just for their money. Also, what you're calling blackmail isn't really blackmail. It is setting boundaries. You can set boundaries too. You can say, "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 07:21 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: What would be the top three factors that enables a person to get more casual sex than another person?Good looks, charisma, and being a good liar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:27 AM |
| 2 | Why does the red pill receive so much hate on PPD?Because it negatively stereotypes half the population, among other reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Is Hitting The Wall at 30 a American Phenomena?"Hitting the wall at 30" is a manosphere concept not part of mainstream American culture. The easy to remember number, divisible by 10 is used to signify the point where women start looking like crud and being "less fertile". That decline in fertility wouldn't stop them from having a kid, but it is considered highly significant by neckbeards who don't want kids. These neckbeards believe that all women who are single at 30 have the same story. They rejected good guys in college, and would have re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Is Hitting The Wall at 30 a American Phenomena?For every middle aged man who sleeps around with 19 year olds, there are countless others who aren't into that, and countless more that couldn't pull it off if they wanted to. Your idea of "The Wall" might block 23 year olds from a select few men old enough to be their fathers. It doesn't limit their options in a way that's going to impact their lives. Even shallow bimbos and gold diggers can get what they want til their late 20s and 30s. Also, celebs can have younger partners whether they are m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 01:30 AM |
| 2 | Is Hitting The Wall at 30 a American Phenomena?I'm not sure where people get the idea that getting pregnant at 30 is so hard. I grew up in a religious community where a lot of people are anti birth control and have huge familes. Almost none of the big families are actively trying in their 30s but they keep having kids. Even among women with 3 kids that space the births, reproductive activity usually spans around 9 years. With 4, 5, 6, 7,8 ; kids, the women are in their 40s (not advisable but easily possible). Grandma on my mom's side had 4 b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Can we conclude that hypergamy was implemented, first and foremost by men who wanted their daughters to marry the best?You make it sound like women are responsible for saving bums from inceldom. They are not. What OP is trying to say is that men often care more about their would-be-son-in-law's socioeconomic status than their daughters do. That is opposition the idea that hypergamy is feminine. In fact, a lot of women date jobless badboys, tortured souls, and fixeruppers when they are young. These relationships either end because the loser pumps and dumps, or because he fails to get his life together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 09:28 PM |
| 3 | Are "post-wall off the CC" women forcing men to date them or something? What's with the hate against them?"man had little to no success with women period at that age." Maybe they were just undatable back then.... If they are autistic there is a huge chance they were. Dating success takes longer if social skills don't come naturally. Also, a lot of these guys look like kids until their mid 20s or later. Women don't hate them. We just don't want to date them. "Those men that were highly successful at that age had/have no reason to commit since most women want them" Wait, you think men only commit when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 04:21 AM |
| 7 | Are "post-wall off the CC" women forcing men to date them or something? What's with the hate against them?If what you said was true, the infant mortality rate would be rising exponentially. People are waiting much longer to get married, and it is common to be over 30 to have your first kid. However, infant and maternal mortality are continuing to decrease all over the world. https://ourworldindata.org/child-mortality You would also expect OBGYNs to give the same advice that redpillers are giving. They are not. They only start rushing people in mid to late 30s that is MUCH later than redpill's doom a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 09:44 PM |
| 16 | Are "post-wall off the CC" women forcing men to date them or something? What's with the hate against them?No. In every age group, there are more women than men on the relationship/marriage market. Young beta men are not proposing and getting turned down in droves. Most women aren't looking for random hookups either. Those few who enjoy casual encounters have almost unlimited options. Are you surprised that they choose the hottest guys? Don't men also prioritize looks when they are looking for casual sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 08:16 AM |
| 41 | Are "post-wall off the CC" women forcing men to date them or something? What's with the hate against them?Most of these women won't even send the first message to men they match with online. They're definitely not forcing anyone to date them. What they are doing is writing "no hookups" on their dating profiles and refusing to sleep with Joe McRandom. It is the men complaining online who won't take no for an answer. If a woman who a red piller wants to hook up with says she is only interested in relationship/marriage minded men, he thinks she feels "entitled" to have him marry her for that sex he is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 07:29 AM |
| 2 | Why don't less attractive guys just date less attractive girls?"We want to find someone who we value more than the market values," That's what I do. I want someone at or below my league who I like more than the men above my league. I'm good at finding that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/21 02:35 AM |
| 4 | Why don't less attractive guys just date less attractive girls?All this about what women of different attractiveness levels "deserve" How would this play out if women agreed with you? "Wow! Chad, what a generous offer! I can't accept because I am ugly and don't deserve you. I got to protect you from your poor taste. " "Tyrone? I can't believe you would think about me. I have to say no because I don't deserve you either." "Thanks for the invite, Joe. I have to say no. I don't deserve even you." "Ok, Eustace, I'll go with you because you're ugly like me." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/21 02:27 AM |
| 4 | Redpilled youtuber explains why relationships between younger men and older women are toxic but the reverse is not.Adults can make their own decisions about who to marry. Someone who wants to have kids won't pick someone infertile. The redpill campaigns against older women (and women their own age, and women who are only 10-20 years younger than them) is pointless. You can just admit you prefer women in their prime without demonizing those that aren't. What this sounds like is just a justification to harass young women who aren't interested.. If ugly older women are all harassing young guys, then slightly le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/21 01:20 AM |
| 8 | Redpilled youtuber explains why relationships between younger men and older women are toxic but the reverse is not.He isn't describing relationships. He's describing drunk old women in bars aggressively hitting on younger men who aren't attracted to them. Is he not aware of the gross old men who harass young women who aren't attracted to them? That happens more often, and it is no less toxic. He says that pairing between old men and younger women are different because young women are attractive. Is he forgetting about the detail of whether or not they feel the same about him? He is on the way to becoming one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 10:22 PM |
| 8 | Do you think its hypocritical to have a dating preference or standard you yourself don't meet?Preferring traits in a mate that you don't have yourself is not hypocritical. It's natural. For example, staight women want a partner with a dick, even though they don't have one. Similarly, straight men want a partner with a vagina even they have none themselves. What is hypocritical is to make moral judgments and personal attacks against people for engaging in behaviors you participate in. If a lazy, deadbeat woman makes fun of a man whose lifestyle matches her own, that is hypocritical. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 09:45 PM |
| 5 | How important is make-up, nails, hair and clothes when it comes to dating?Not always feasible and never sustainable. Someone might be "effortlessly beautiful" at 18, but to hold on to that youthful beauty in their mid 20s-30s will take effort. To look hot at all after 40 will take more effort (and money). After 50, it will take effort just to look nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/21 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Men using weight as a rebuttal for lofty preferences"to be apathetic or accepting is also a terrible idea." Why? I'm not their doctor. I'm waiting in an airport with a bunch of sunburned people that look like lobsters and carrots. Should I try to guess which ones forgot to wear sunscreen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/21 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Men using weight as a rebuttal for lofty preferencesI can't argue with made-up statistics. However, even if you were right, the analogy would be off. A speeding driver is a road hazard that can kill you. A fat person is just a person that's fat. If I were to make someone else's unhealthy habits my business, I'd pick smoking. People who smoke when you are stuck in a small space with them really are inconsiderate. Note: I am in favor of putting huge sin taxes on junk food, and of replacing food stamps with a program that only provides healthy foods… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/21 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Men using weight as a rebuttal for lofty preferencesNot that hard for you and me. For one of my aunts, a former room mate, and now my mom, it doesn't work that way. My mom never eats junk food. She eats nothing but a salad for a bunch of her meals. She works out every day and she still isn't thin like she used to be. The fact is, some people need to eat an insanely low number of calories to lose weight, or even to maintain the same weight. When they succeed, they are using much more self control and discipline than us. You can't accurately guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/21 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Men using weight as a rebuttal for lofty preferencesWhat's Mexico got to do with anything? I did not say anything about a particular country, and I wasn't bashing anyone. I was talking about the metabolisms of indigenous groups adapted to regions where calories are scarce. I'm trying to say that the low fiber, processed, calorie packed foods that westerners can get away with eating make a lot of people fat when they adopt a western diet. Viewing weight as a direct reflection of character is therefore flawed. Not everyone fat eats like a pig. Some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/21 05:39 AM |
| 4 | Pick-Me and Cool Girls Mega ThreadThe men they have "success" with are misogynists. Acting like a man and putting down other women aren't things that appeal to men who genuinely like and respect women. We're not jealous of pickmes. We are annoyed that they cater to men who don't deserve to be catered to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/21 12:02 AM |
| 0 | If sex is inherently harmful for women, why would they continue to want to have casual sex?What's quasi male about being INTJ? Nothing about me is masculine, but that's what I am. There are also women on the autistic spectrum. It's sad that the autistic community is so misogynistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/21 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Saying "Men aren't getting the sex they want" is a form entitlement. Too many lonely guys are picky beggars."Respect should come from both parties anyways." Yes, exactly! "which is causing the problem and filtering out all the guys with decent personalities." When women are looking for husbands, personality and character do take precedence. You have to really love someone to be happy spending the rest of your life with him. I have honestly never heard of a good man struggling to find a wife. The men who are complaining are the ones just looking for sex. It is true that women are increadibly shallow wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/21 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Saying "Men aren't getting the sex they want" is a form entitlement. Too many lonely guys are picky beggars.That's how reptiles think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/21 02:55 PM |
| 4 | Saying "Men aren't getting the sex they want" is a form entitlement. Too many lonely guys are picky beggars."Men already date down." Wow, this is toxic. If you think all women are below their partners' league, you are the one whose judgement is off. Putting women down isn't going to help you get what you want. You're just going to be a terrible friend/boyfriend. "Girls "deserve" Chad" No, girls deserve someone who treats them with respect. When someone says "you deserve better" they are talking about behavior, not looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/21 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Unattractive nerds should try to hit on intelligent womenAll talent correlates with intelligence because of its relationship to health and energy. That doesn't mean all athletic people and animals are bright. Squirrels are more athletic than Einstein. Einstein is still smarter. The nerd/jock dichotomy comes from the fact that everyone has limited time, energy and resources. "Smart Nerds" dedicate endless hours to their interests in STEM and IT while "Dumb Jocks" are obsessed with sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Do people realize that complaining about being lonely,incel,ugly, lack of options etc. is a turn off to most people?I am straight, and I can handle it. Also stigmatizing homosexuals doesn't support the idea that women owe you sex. The arguments you made to demonize gays are strawmen and red herrings. No functional adult is promoting domestic violence or paedophilia. How do you equate attraction to grown women or grown men with attraction to sexually undeveloped kids? The distinction between developed and undeveloped is every bit as important as the distiction between male and female. Also, gays are not more l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe that *everything* that people do, is to attract the opposite sex? That opposite-sex attention is the only thing that matters in life?It is a union of the phrase "Pick me!" . Pickmes are obsessed with male validation and getting a boyfriend to the point where they can't be themselves or have supportive relationships with other women. Pretending to be a "tomboy" or "gamer girl" to impress men, bragging about it like it's a moral virtue, making a big deal about not wearing dresses and (supposedly) not wearing makeup, embracing misogynistic attitudes, marketing themselves as "not like other girls", and letting the manosphere dete… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 05:58 PM |
| 2 | What are your personal experiences with a "Chad"?Not for the first 9 months of time invested with him. I did later because I loved him and he was willing to take a shower directly before. He even put on baby powder once, but it didn't last. His later tactic was to fuss and try to convince me he didn't stink. 🍆💨😣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Do people realize that complaining about being lonely,incel,ugly, lack of options etc. is a turn off to most people?LGBT people want to sex/love/marriage with each other. We can support that without compromising our own liberty. Incels feel entitled to hook up with women who aren't attracted to them and/or don't want casual sex. That involves other people's bodies and emotions. Also, LGBT people don't slut shame their partners or potential partners. Incels do. I don't understand why you all think someone will do you a favor when you would turn around and call her a cum dumpster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 03:11 PM |
| 9 | What is a superficially unattractive man from your point of view?You're not a woman in your 40s. I bet you are a man on Tinder. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/21 06:24 AM |
| 7 | What are your personal experiences with a "Chad"?I made out with a few primetime chads, but I never let it go far because they are Petri dishes for the entire towns STDs. I also dated an aging former Chad. Big mistake. He is stuck in the past where women were clambering to let him use use them. He had obscene expectations for what he should get in exchange for minimal effort. He wouldn't even wear deoderant when I begged him too. Instead, he yelled at me for thinking he stinked. According to him, his 200+ lovers liked his smell. Only his mom a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Just how easy are “ugly” women?"Oh god did I offend your safe space? " No. I can be safe without everyone agreeing with me. You have every right to be offensive. Other people also have a right to be offended. "Not every man or woman will win the genetic lottery, you don't get to redefine it just because you didn't make the cut. " If I shared your looks-centered definition of the genetic lottery it would raise the perception of my status, not lower it. I redefine your "cut" because it's short-sighted. The genes that impact qua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/21 01:33 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All]Just how easy are “ugly” women?"6-7's are the hardest to fuck, they greatly over estimate their value and that's why men tend to get aggressive with them" You have no right to define another person's value. Whether you think she is a 10, a 5 or a 1 she's equally entitled to make her own decision about whether to let you into her body. If men who don't get what they want "get agressive", that is sexual harassment. It is not the woman's fault, and she does not overestimate her value. Women are human beings, same as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/21 04:55 AM |
| 4 | [Q4All]Just how easy are “ugly” women?You're going to have a higher chance of success with someone in your leage. That doesn't mean that all "ugly" people are into casual sex. Some are not. I also dislike the word "easy" because it suggests that when a woman isn't interested, you're supposed to keep pursuing her. It also suggests that women who actually want you deserve to be taken advantage of and shamed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/21 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?"all those things that mysteriously no woman does until 30 years later when she "remembers" she was "raped" and uses a lawyer and publicist instead of the police." No woman does? Actually, there is a national backlog of around 100, 000 rape kits that haven't been tested. There is more evidence being collected than ever gets looked at. Also, just because someone takes a lot of time to come forwards does not mean they were lying. Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, Jeffery Epstein, and a bunch of priests… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 04:37 AM |
| 3 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?No, women are not commonly sociopaths. How is it even possible to believe that? Victims usually won't put their name on the line because it is usually a he-said-she-said situation. There is no way to prove it. People who trust the man will assume the woman is lying. People who trust the woman will believe the man is a rapist. Those who don't know what to believe will steer clear of both of them. Rapists and false accusers both have an upper hand over innocent victims. They are the ones in contro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:19 AM |
| 6 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?"she is lying (high probability)" Only if she is a sociopath. Normal people with the capacity for empathy don't consider making false rape accusations. "rape just isn't that big a deal" Maybe not to you, but the victims are never the same. That includes male victims. My friend's friend committed suicide after being raped in prison. Being on the side of rapists does not put you on the side of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:57 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: at what age does a woman become post wall?If she returns the interest of even one of the suiters, the wall is pretty much meaningless. Fit, kind, nonshallow people find love at every age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 04:12 AM |
| 8 | Q4RP: at what age does a woman become post wall?When that happens, it is because she had not met him yet. Most 18-25 year old men aren't looking for wives yet and 18-22 year old women are dating men their own age. Those men rarely stick around. I'm not sure where red pillers get the idea that young men who want to get married are getting rejected in droves. The young guys whining are the ones whose goal is to get NSA sex with minimal effort. It is the case from college to the grave that there are more women on the marriage market than men. Me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe that *everything* that people do, is to attract the opposite sex? That opposite-sex attention is the only thing that matters in life?It sounds like you date a lot of pickmes. If most women chose their hobbies to impress men, they would all be into competitive sports, pole dancing, and gaming. Nearly all women have at least one hobby that men call boring (Sewing, quilting, embroidery, knitting, crochet, beadwork, lace-making, soap-making, candle-making, canning, health foods, tapestry, calligraphy, quilling, scrapbooking, ballet, tapdance, synchronised swimming, figurescating, gymnastics, zoomba, and pampering small, fluffy do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Is it just me or is relationship problems always seen as the man's fault?"Incels... don't actually date women " Because women aren't interested. Incel stands for involuntary celebate. They absolutely blame women. "MGTOW don't actually date women" Even the ones that lack experience with women blame women and feminism for everything. That being said, most do date women. They just don't respect or commit to them. "MGTOW crowd have it in their head to cancel women not because they blame them for life's problems but because they see women as the competition/rivals/the ene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Is it just me or is relationship problems always seen as the man's fault?I wasn't suggesting anti-male bias is justified when I pointed out the anti-female bias of certain groups. That would make no sense. I was just answering the universal assertion OP made about the whole world blaming men. I am saying the direction of bias depends on the person. People in male dominanted echo chambers always side with men. Those in female dominated echo chambers always side with women. Most people fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. Neither bias is justified. The ideal v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 12:17 AM |
| 26 | Is it just me or is relationship problems always seen as the man's fault?It depends on who you're talking to and what their bias is. With RedPill, incels, and MGTOW, everything is women's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Men often claim that they don't care about women wearing make-up and that only other women care about make-up, styling etc. However, girly girls who wear make-up, style their hair and have a skincare routine seem to be pretty popular among men. Do men care about these things more than they think?You would have to build more prisons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 01:28 AM |
| 6 | Men often claim that they don't care about women wearing make-up and that only other women care about make-up, styling etc. However, girly girls who wear make-up, style their hair and have a skincare routine seem to be pretty popular among men. Do men care about these things more than they think?Men like beautiful women. When they say they don't care about beauty efforts, what they really mean is that they don't want to know about them. They like to imagine we are more gifted in the looks department than we actually are. Our lips and cheeks are naturally that rosy. Our eyelashes are naturally that luscious. Our boobs don't really need pushup bras. They float. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 01:22 AM |
| 6 | Tradwives vs sugar babiesRaising kids and managing household affairs is contribution. Some also fulfill critical roles in their husband's work (Pastor's wife, campaign manager, assistant, etc.). A traditional wife is supposed to work full time. When they have babies and toddlers, they work around the clock. A sugarbaby just goes on dates, has sex and gets spoiled. The only days a wife is treated like a sugarbaby are Valentines day and her birthday (if even then). I agree there is nothing wrong with being a sugar baby. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Tradwives vs sugar babiesIf she takes care of kids, she is a babysitter or nanny, not a sugarbaby as the word is typically used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Tradwives vs sugar babiesBoth do. Trad wives are not really dependant. They are choosing to care for the kids full time instead of working somewhere else for money. If the husband is abusive or cheats, the traditional wife can move out, put the kids in daycare, and get a job. Of course, in some cases the women hires a sleezy lawyer and divorce rapes her way into material bliss. That is disgusting when that happens, but it rarely does. The trad wives I know who got divorced both ended up poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:11 AM |
| 9 | Tradwives vs sugar babiesTraditional wives hold responsibility for the household and children. Sugar babies just get handouts. Are you forgetting that distinction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 11:53 PM |
| 6 | Tradwives vs sugar babiesThis is a gross comparison. Sugar babies are people who date and/or give sexual favors to men they don't love in exchange for free stuff. They do not hold any sort of responsibility. Nor are they anyone's partner. A traditional wife is her husband's other half. She makes less money than him, not because she is lazy, but because she takes responsibility for the children and the household. The work she does makes it possible for her husband to have children without it damaging his career. He is fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 11:46 PM |
| 4 | The reason men are falling behind in education is because women can afford college by sugaringYep. It's that x chromosome. Men are more likely to express both advantagous and disadvantageous sex linked genes. To be a female genius, you need a double stack of chromisomal awesomeness. To be a bimbo, you need a double stack of misfortune. Most women end up with a mix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Does this describe you? "I have a job, a house, and a loving group of friends, family and a dog. But I'm willing to throw all of that away if it meant I could be a guy who can get constant endless casual sex on demand."The problem is few women are looking for that. Casual sex is only worth it for men. It releases oxytocin which involuntarly accelerates bonding for the woman. At the same time, the man usually does not bond. He might even lose interest after sex. Women who try sleeping around end up bonding and breaking over and over. That takes a toll on emotional well being and over time, makes pair bonding more difficut. This is compounded by the fact that a lot of men lose respect for high n count women. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 11:08 PM |
| 6 | How often do you feel that "spark" when you meet or come across a new man?Almost never. I need to warm up to someone before I can develop sexual desire for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Does this describe you? "I have a job, a house, and a loving group of friends, family and a dog. But I'm willing to throw all of that away if it meant I could be a guy who can get constant endless casual sex on demand."Nah. Dysfunctional losers are not to be envied. The decent guy might take longer to find a girlfriend, but once he has one, he is capable of a healthy relationship. He also doesn't have to worry about getting busted, fired, evicted, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/21 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Does this describe you? "I have a job, a house, and a loving group of friends, family and a dog. But I'm willing to throw all of that away if it meant I could be a guy who can get constant endless casual sex on demand."Womanizers get laid through fraud. A dysfunctional loser will typically present themselves as a tragic hero, starving artist, persecuted saint, tortured soul misunderstood genious etc. They'll also play with women's emotions by pretending to be in love, and making false promises. The "casual sex" the world thinks they are getting is only casual on their end. If women saw their true colors, they would be incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 05:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't really like or love their boyfriends/husbands, they are just settling for the best they can get.Think of two people in a loving marriage, who would not trade one another for the world. Now imagine going back in time to before the couple met. The man is presented with a picture of the future wife alongside a picture of Scarlet Johansson. He's asked, "who would you rather go on a date with?" How many would pick their future wives? If settling precluded love, then love would only be for 1% or so of the population. That isn't how it works. Once ordinary people notice each other they can give a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | If men want more opportunities for sex, why don’t they put the same amount of effort into grooming, self care and “glowing up” as most women do?It depends on the man. Some men look sexy in a rugged state. Some look downright gross. The older men get, the more slip into the gross camp and need clippers. The picture of the guy in makeup and doctored eyebrows is a red herring. You can groom without choosing a crazy style. I don't think he was even trying to attract women. He looks 100% gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Vetting is overratedStephanie holds the keys to determine whether Mike gets her time. She doesn't have to wait for a proposal to bring up the subject of marriage. If it turns out Mike just wants to mess around, she will move on. For every man gatekeeping, there is a woman trying to make a husband out of a bull moose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Vetting is overratedWhat kind of proposal are you talking about? "I'll give you two goats for your daughter Stephanie's hand," ? I was thinking more along the lines of, "Stephanie, Will you marry me?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Vetting is overratedThey moan because they are alone. Women worth committing to seek out men worth committing to. Then they commit to each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 01:12 AM |
| 6 | Vetting is overratedWomen also gatekeep to commitment. That is why men have to propose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 05:54 AM |
| 3 | Vetting is overratedVetting is "overrated" for the men who get eliminated before they get sex. It is underrated for women who avoid unnecessary heartbreak, preserve their reputations, and get married to the right person in time to have kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 05:47 AM |
| 6 | Women should not take dating advice from women whose value and/or beauty is higher than theirsYou don't have to be attractive to have standards because being single is an option. Entertaining men that don't respect or value you is emotionally treacherous and bad for your reputation. It is much better to keep your dignity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 05:47 AM |
| 17 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.Women can do the same. It just doesn't show because they choose men "compensating" in the same ways. Few US presidents chose 10/10 wives even though most were successful enough at the time they got married to land one. Bill Gates could have chosen a model, but he chose a holmly fellow programmer. Einstein could have gotten a 10/10 sapiosexual. Instead, he married a physicist. Then later, he married his cousin. Both men and women look for partners with compatible values and traits. If you have un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?"It's only romanticized if they win the fight or stave off the muggers." Soldiers that are injured in battle earn honors whether or not they win or not. Same goes for police injured in line of duty. Likewise, anyone injured protecting another person earns respect for their courage. "Not if they get left in the fetal position and embarrassed." It's the broken spirit and loss of confidrnce that is unattractive. However, even that is not going to drive away someone who truly loves you. If your husb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 05:44 AM |
| 1 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?LMAO! This is a hyper masculine 8 time world champion Muay Thai fighter. Her thought processes hardly represent how "women" think. Also, she didn't lose attraction for the boyfriend because he lost a fight. She lost attraction because he surrendered. According to her, he should have gone down saying "F--- yoooou!!!!". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If all men were suddenly attractive, women would find all men attractive and not just the top 20%I don't send anyone that checklist. I just notice whether or not I'm interested. But sure. I'm 5/8, 120 pounds and still able to fit in my high school prom dress. I can take what I dish out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 02:57 AM |
| 2 | CMV: If all men were suddenly attractive, women would find all men attractive and not just the top 20%For me, comparison doesn't factor into my attractiveness judgements at all. I'm not more attracted to someone with a perfect face and body than someone who simply meets my benchmarks: My general preferences are (1) He can't be shorter than me if he is skinny or average. Only, fit bulky guys can be shorter without losing points, (2) He can't be morbidly obese, (3) He needs a sufficiently active lifestyle to maintain decent muscle tone. The amount required is inversely related to fat. The more fat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?"see the 1000s of relationship advice threads about women who lose all of their attraction and are disgusted by their boyfriends/husbands after they get mugged or lose a fight." Source? We are talking about a small population of trashy rednecks. Adults don't usually fight like schoolboys. Also, what woman has ever stopped loving a man for getting mugged or injured? I wasn't aware that was a thing, even in gangs. If anything battle scars are romanticized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 08:00 PM |
| 3 | What is the psychology of women who lust after serial killers?I don't know. What's the psychology of the men who sent marriage proposals to Amanda Knox? Some people are just screwed up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 07:23 PM |
| 3 | "Watch what women do, don't listen to what they say" doesn't work because you're not observing women in general. You're observing the women you want and the men you envy."You're like my brother." Wow. To orbit someone until she thinks you're siblings is a colossal time investment. "Uhh huh, let's totally listen to what women say." Yes really. Listen when one tells you she is not interested. It will save a lot of heartbreak. No sane person claims that niceness is sufficient to ignite romantic passion. If it did, we would all be dating our dogs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 05:32 AM |
| 2 | "Watch what women do, don't listen to what they say" doesn't work because you're not observing women in general. You're observing the women you want and the men you envy.How is turning down a date with someone you're not attracted to selfish? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 04:59 AM |
| 2 | Is it women, not men, who're to blame for the standard that woman should look as young and neotenous as possible to the degree we see today?Every time I've heard "You look like a teenager," as a complement, it's been from a man. Just look at how many men surf "teen" porn, and how many red pill posters classify 30 year old women as "post wall". Some set the wall as low as 22. Women don't enjoy the expectation to be "cute" in their late 20s and beyond. That kind of standard forces them to choose between looking attractive and being taken seriously. At the same time they are trying to climb the corporate ladder, they are struggling to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Should men be lowering or upping their standards?If a man I was attracted to only asked me out because was that he was "lowering his standards" I would not be interested. You have to find someone you share mutual attraction with. A good way to ensure that never happens is for you to spend hours every day online, surfing porn, following models on instagram and carrying on fake relationships with perfect 10s on OnlyFans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/20 04:49 PM |
| 4 | Would a woman break up with a high value man if she found out he used to sleep with a younger women?Because that's an abuse of power. Your partner needs to be able to make an independent decision without manipulation or coercion. With much younger women, that isn't always possible.That's especially true for interns and new entry level employees. Whether you are happy with her will make or break her career. If you want sex and she doesn't, that puts her in a bad situation. In fact, any employee of yours should be off limits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Why do men lose respect for women who have casual sex with them?"Because you are then seen as an easy lay. And easy people don't get respected." That doesn't really answer the question of why. It just restates the phenomenon that OP is asking you to explain. The man disrespecting a woman for being easy is equally easy. They have the same mindset--wanting sex with the other person-- then they do the same thing--have sex together-- and then both are satisfied. What people want to know is why the pot looks down on the kettle for being black. Do men assume deepe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 08:53 PM |
| 13 | Would a woman break up with a high value man if she found out he used to sleep with a younger women?It depends on what happened. For example: (1)If they met on tinder and had a mutually desired fling, I would not care. (2) If she was his intern and he used his power and influence to get sex, I would dump him. (3) If he used her youthful naivity to decieve and manipulate her, I would dump him. (4 ) If he had a toxic controlling relationship with her, I would dump him. Etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:39 AM |
| 2 | PPD women how do normal women view their own market value?I don't see this happening at all. People pump and dump partners that are not on their level in terms of maturity, intellect and status. Attractiveness imbalance doesn't have the same effect. It is a barrier to getting a foot in the door, but not for making the relationship last. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Most of the Women on PPD are below average in looksRed pill talking points are upsetting because they presuppose that all women are narcissistic and disloyal. It doesn't matter how attractive you are. If a man thinks you would leave them for a higher status man, he is not going to love you or be loyal. Red pill discourages love and encourages manipulation. That is why we hate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/20 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.People with independently high status don't need arm candy to elevate them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 01:03 AM |
| 21 | If a woman is rejected by an attractive male, she becomes more bitter towards an accepting male who is unattractive.I definitely see this happening with genders reversed. Niceguys are butthurt that attractive women rejected them. Now, they hate all women--including those who might be interested. Side note: There was little time between getting rejected and passing it on in this study. In real life, there is more time to get over it. To extrapolate from this study that women rejected by attractive men must despise their husbands years later is a pretty big leap. I have never seen a bitter bride. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Why isn't there a REAL equivalent for female dating statergy for men?Red Pill is the real equivalent of FDS for men. Both are all about how to manipulate and avoid being manipulated by the opposite sex. Both advocate stereotyping, plate spinning, branch swinging, dread gaming, emotional abuse, lying, and taking advantage of people. FDS targets "high value" men only to use them and suck them into toxic relationships. Red pill does the same with its "high value" submissive virgins. Neither camp sees their victims as having intrinsic value. Their "value" is all in w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/20 03:09 AM |
| 1 | The Three Kinds of Women: A Primer"Have seen many sluts settle down, but not seen any make “good” wives." Men who love their wives don't call them sluts or air their dirty laundry. That doesn't mean that all good wives were virgins on their wedding night. One of my best friends in college went through a slutty phase. Now she is happily married to a former manslut and they have 2 kids. They are no different from any other monogamous couple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Men don’t seem to like it when women “try” to be attractive?She said in a comment that she is trying to date older men and the younger men are the ones interested. She's not unattractive to everyone--just the particular demographic she's interested in. That was me in high school. I didn't go through puberty when everyone else did so the guys that paid attention to me were mostly younger. I did not have my first boyfriend until college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't feel guilty about playing women because 9/10 she would have played himYes, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/20 06:51 PM |
| 5 | "What was attractive at 18 isn't at 30" is true for women in large part because they're not as hot at 30 as they were at 18I disagree. Maturity really does make a difference. When every girl in middle school crushes over the same 2 or 3 guys, it's not because those guys are all of their best bet at happiness. It's because, in the movie in their minds, those guys are most naturally cast as the romantic lead. With maturity comes the realization that the people you interact with in your imagination aren't the real people and that you can't just pin the traits and love you're looking for onto the best looking person you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/20 03:11 AM |
| 1 | If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react?Aww, that sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 01:36 PM |
| 3 | If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react?Best response ever. You would make her day while you were rejecting her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/20 01:34 PM |
| 2 | How much your parents have influenced your current views?My parents love each other, and they are inseparable. That has certainly shaped my view of marriage. I know it can work, because I've seen it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 12:22 AM |
| 0 | Why won't men date a woman he finds attractive enough to sleep with?" Because most women offer nothing that adds to his life but sex. " That's just pure misogyny. Women's companionship and partnership is worth every bit as much as a man's. You don't speak for very many people. Also "sacrifice of freedom" is only for doormats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Should poll posting enabled?No, because the opinions of people on this site aren't representative of the general population. They tend to be more polarized, and people who are looking for shallow relationships are over-represented. That's fine for debate, but not for finding out what men in general or women in general want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/20 02:27 PM |
| 5 | Are men really the gatekeepers of relationships?The men that are gatekeepers of relationships are the ones that don't really want relationships. Don't date those, and the problem is solved. The same goes for the women that were gatekeeping relationships with OP. Why jump through hoops to earn commitment from someone who doesn't wan't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 07:31 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Women don't really want "good men"All women are not the same, and they don't all want the same thing. My sister in law, for instance, wanted a good man and she married my brother. They are happy together. End of story. Women who choose good men do not have a lot of drama in their lives, so their presence is not as loud as the presence of those who chase bad boys. The women riding emotional roller coasters with plate spinners, players, and unstable men are the ones who are always single and talking your ears off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Women wouldn't have a problem with men leading them on and using them for sex if they just waited until marriage to have it like in the past." Since women control sexual access, it's on them to fix this problem. " The problem here isn't sex; it is lying and taking advantage of people. That wouldn't magically disappear from human nature if women stopped consenting to sex outside marriage. Also, women do not always control sexual access. Sex trafficking industry is a multi billion dollar industry. If men could only get sex without consent, the industry would grow. It is on evil people to stop being evil. It's not on the rest of us to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.Yep, you exist. 30 isn't even old. My comment was a response to a comment by Sultmaker_9000. He was talking about "mid/llate 30's plus" women who were aging "like bread" (i.e. poorly). He was saying that no one will have a relationship with them. That's just crazy. Less attractive women have less attractive options, but they still find love and get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:03 AM |
| 3 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Look up r/FemaleDatingStrategy . It starts with the same premise that Red Pill starts with: That people of the opposite gender are disloyal and only interested in what they can get from you. The content in both subs is all about how you can avoid getting taken advantage of and take advantage of people instead. FDS shares advice for dealing with pickup artist and Redpill tactics while Redpill gives advice for resisting the tactics advocated by FDS. No one is sharing advice about how to have a hea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.Probably because getting drunk and going home with random guys isn't something you do when you want a serious relationship. You changed the subject. I'm saying that a standard is only too high if it is unrealistic and prevents you from finding a partner. If someone's best selling point is that you don't deserve better, he's not a good match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.Yes, I have. Tinder is an ap where each women has legions of men competing to hook up with her. Since most women want a relationship, the few that want to mess around can afford to have astronomically high attractiveness standards. The marriage market works differently because women on that market outnumber men, and because a lot of things that were not deal-breakers for hookups (being a cheater; not having a job; having a temper; not wanting kids; etc.) are major deal-breakers for potential hus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:02 PM |
| 5 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.No faster than the number of never married men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:45 PM |
| 5 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.You'll believe me when everyone pays off their college debt and the economy recovers. People aren't getting married because they are broke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:43 PM |
| 6 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.they dated HVM who got them into bed easy, put them on FWB terms, but thinks she can have that as a relationship now People can get a relationship at any time. An older women will have to be less shallow in terms of looks, and forget about using marriage for upward mobility, but they can still find love if that is what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:30 PM |
| 8 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.It's less a matter of men being more likely to be reasonable than of reasonable men being more likely to want a matchmaker. Men have the burden of making the first move, so men-- not women-- have an incentive to hire someone to do that for them. A woman's potential options are already asking her out. She's only going to look for a matchmaker if nobody interested in her measures up to her standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:23 PM |
| 9 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.Most women can ACTUALLY find a man for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:06 PM |
| 0 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.Seriously, if they can get someone that meets their standards, their standards aren't too high. Most women who want a man find one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 09:03 PM |
| 5 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.The average woman who needs help from a matchmaker is not the same thing as the average women in the general population. Women in the general population do not have too high a standards. If anything, it's the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:41 PM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?I'm putting this out for debate, not validation, since I already know you disagree. My position is that husbands deserve more respect than the "Chads" so many of you are putting on a pedestal. I'm challenging "Chad's" evolutionary fitness in the AFBB model. Side note: Sleeping around isn't half as common as it appears on this sub. AFBB isn't how things usually play out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 03:32 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?Same for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:59 AM |
| 2 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?It's definitely not a universal law. All men don't fall into black and white categories of alpha and beta. Though some are unmistakably dominant from start to finish and some are unmistakably submissive, the majority are somewhere in the middle, being dominant in some situations and some periods of life, and submissive in others. AFBB is also not something all women do. A lot of women spend their entire dating life in long tern relationships with mostly beta-leaning boyfriends. A fair number hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:55 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?Don't tell us what we should prefer. I'm not. I'm speaking in purely evolutionary terms. Red pill talks a lot about evolutionary fitness as it pertains to alphas, but I'm pointing out that the so-called BB is the one that is wanted for reproduction. I'm also pointing out that the AF is not deserving of the admiration he is given in these forums. By the way, AFBB doesn't apply to every woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:35 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?I'd agree that marrying a cheater who doesn't love you is a terrible idea. The BB is only the winner if the commitment is genuine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:29 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?Yes, unless she is an exceptionally terrible person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:23 AM |
| 0 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?Commitment belongs in quotation marks for a sizable minority of women, but not for the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:15 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?I know very few women who have slept with a legion even though virtually all have the chance. The statement that in AFBB the beta is the evolutionary winner does not suggest that AFBB happens a lot. Even in college, a women with a constant stream of men flowing through her dorm stands out and is gossiped about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:12 AM |
| 2 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?That's a pretty big generalization. You really think that is the typical situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:24 AM |
| 0 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?Wow, that sounds bleak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:18 AM |
| 2 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?"Women don't love betas and often cuck them as they don't seem their genes worthy of reproduction but still want to have access to their ressources. " That's a pretty crazy generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:17 AM |
| 4 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?She gave her best (youth) to the punk for free. She demmands more from the man she marries and has no more youth to give him. (1) If all you want is youth, getting married doesn't make much sense. Youth only lasts a few years and marriage is for life. "Beta buxx has to pay to get a lesser version of the experience, with an older woman." Wives bring a second income and/or provide free childcare. You don't pay for them. They make you richer. Also, marriage is not a lesser version of a hookup exper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:15 AM |
| 2 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?"Why would a man marry a woman who offers nothing except a pre-owned pussy with semen residue?" (1) No one would marry a person who offers nothing. (2)Women own their pussies for life, just like men own their dicks. (3) Semen residue isn't a thing. "And the fact that she’s used to better and feels that she deserves better is while you’ll end up in a db and she’ll probably cheat." Don't marry someone that doesn't love you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:08 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?"Most of the Chads, high value men, alpha fucks guys settle down with one partner..." That is accurate. "in their late twenties or thirties." Sometimes, but not typically. Large age gap couples are not common. When they occur, they increase the likelihood of divorce. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/06/age-the-age-gap-and-education-all-impact-divorce-rates-cbs/#:~:text=But%20if%20the%20age%20gap,in%20which%20women%20are%20oldest. "Beta bucks still gets his piece of the pie but alpha fucks gets… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:03 AM |
| 1 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?" [Women] think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, and used-up vaginas." The women who marry late are usually the ones who are financially stable before they get married. It is the women who get married right out of highschool that are more likely to need to be provided for. Regarding commitment, I'd say anyone willing to give it is worthy of it in return. Regarding the cock carousel, not a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:47 AM |
| 0 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?"Alpha gets for free what the beta has to pay quadruple for and get a fourth of the return." Betas don't "pay" for a wife. They benefit from a second income and/or free childcare. Also, the AF does not get any of that. Nor do they get the love, companionship, time, and devotion that the woman gives to her husband. Nor do they pass on their genes. "it's how they treat their guy, not how they feel." I agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:30 AM |
| 3 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?In the eyes of the animal kingdom, the winner is the one who reproduces. If the beta reproduces, he wins, and if the alpha spends his whole life having non-reproductive sex, he loses. Also, younger women do not have better genetics. Genetics remain the same for life. If anything, the women who marry later have better genetics because they have higher IQ on average. Contrary to what some seem to assume, most women who delay marriage are not doing so for casual sex; they are doing so for higher ed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:22 AM |
| 2 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?(1) A wife doesn't cost money. She makes money and/or saves you money on childcare. (2) No one is forced to marry someone they don't want. (3) Men age too, and they are rarely virgins when they get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:17 AM |
| 6 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?I've never met a married man in real life who would say "No". Not my dad; not my brother; not any of my grandparents, aunts, uncles or cousins; no one I went to school with. Why on earth would someone who feels that way get married in the first place? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:12 AM |
| 0 | In AFBB, isn't the beta the winner?(1) Miles on a car are a problem because it means the car is likely to break down. The same is not true for sex. (2) Not every woman has a high n count when she gets married. (3) When one does have a high n count, chances are, her husband has one too. It all evens out. (4) The "small fee" better describes children than a wife. A wife contributes financially. If she is not a stay at home mom, she brings a second income. If she is a stay at home mom, she obviates the need for daycare. She also mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Do you lie about or downplay your sexual histories, and if so, why?I agree that lying + unrestricted sociosexual orientation = likely cheater. Getting played in high school + not disclosing this to a conservative who believes in a Madonna/whore dichotomy does NOT= likely cheater. That kind of lie is motivated by the fact that the girl's sociosexual orientation is monogamous, and she does not want more meaningless sex. The lie of the Madonna/whore dichotomy is as bad as the lies people tell to get past it. That doesn't mean it's not a terrible idea to start a re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Do you lie about or downplay your sexual histories, and if so, why?"Cheaters lie because they want to remain in a monogamous relationship" If they are cheating, the relationship isn't really monogamous. When I said "they want a monogamous relationship" I was talking about a non cheater who who is genuinely looking to commit. "I consider lying about the past as similar to cheating because the underlying motivations are the same: placement of self-interest over that of their partner’s." The same can be said about men who lie and mislead in an effort to seem more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 11:39 PM |
| 3 | Do you lie about or downplay your sexual histories, and if so, why?"Do you tell the truth, steer clear of the conversation, or outright lie? " I tell the truth because I'would feel guilty if I lied or mislead someone. I always bring up the topic on the first date, or before the first date if I am meeting the person online. If I'm going to lose someone, I want it to be before I develop feelings for them. "Is it fair to assume that women who lie about this out of self-interest will cheat and lie too about that out of self-interest? " Cheaters are always dishonest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 01:35 AM |
| 5 | Have you ever found men lying and pretending to be someone else just to impress you?The first had a wife in a part of India where you couldn't get a unilateral no fault divorce. The laws were based on the fact that the rural girls get married extremely young, are uneducated and lack economic opportunities. My ex's wife had a master's degree, was living in Chennai (city) and making as much as he was. She wanted to stay married just to avoid the stigma of divorce. He was able to hide her because they were living in different countries, had separate bank accounts and had no contac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 10:26 PM |
| 10 | Have you ever found men lying and pretending to be someone else just to impress you?Yes. I had a guy who wasn't Brittish try to flirt with me with an English accent. Several men I've met on line lied about their height and turned out shorter than me. More than one man has lied about their marital status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 07:49 PM |
| 2 | What advice would you give a 30 year old newly single woman to attract a good mate?I think you're confusing 30 with 45. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 12:26 AM |
| 3 | What advice would you give a 30 year old newly single woman to attract a good mate?That's only true if you define a "good mate" as a man with average or below average intelligence who gets a dead end 9-5 job that doesn't require higher education. Doctors, lawyers, successful business owners etc. almost always get married later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 12:23 AM |
| 3 | What advice would you give a 30 year old newly single woman to attract a good mate?If she was married with 3 kids she would be financially dependent on her husband. It would have lifelong consequences for her earning potential. If her husband (who is presumably marrying her for her youth) leaves her for his 20 year old secretary, she's screwed. Also, people who get married in the early 30s have the lowest risk of divorce. Getting married too young can be disastrous because people are not financially stable or established professionally. It's a stressful time. https://ifstudies… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/20 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Do you feel like the amount of relationships you’ve had makes your current relationship any less exciting and/or enjoyable?Good times with one person has never diminished good times with another for me. However, past heartbreak, betrayed trust, manipulation and emotional abuse have made it harder for me to have healthy relationships. Pain and fear from one relationship tends to spill into others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 05:30 AM |
| 2 | I constantly read on this sub that men don't put nearly as much effort into their appearance as women. Other than common sense and being physically fit, what can men really do?Besides the obvious (stay fit and dress well): -Never ever have neck hair. If you're going to have a beard, trim it in an attractive way. The dog whisperer, Caesar Milan is a stellar example. If you have an unattractive bald spot, wear a hat that looks good with your clothed and is situationally appropriate. Pluck any solitary hairs or eyebrows that grow in the wrong place, especially ones growing out of moles. -Keep nails clean and clipped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Men who think "men age like wine" while saying women hit the wall are exactly the same as fds women who look at an obese, unhygienic woman and call her a "queen."When you're 20, an "older man" is any man with 1 to 5 birthdays more than you that has a real job and doesn't live with his mom. No one is bragging about dating a gross old fart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 04:29 PM |
| 8 | Men who think "men age like wine" while saying women hit the wall are exactly the same as fds women who look at an obese, unhygienic woman and call her a "queen."2-4 years isn't a large age gap. TRP talks like 20 year olds commonly drool over middle aged men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 01:05 AM |
| 2 | It seems "Cock Carousel" describes normal dating in 2020; why do you have a problem with normal dating?"The betas in wait for marriage already lost her best years 20-30 with men who got it for free." The Betas don't wait for marriage. They try to have sex with anything with a pulse. "The rest of her life is a wrinkly mess, which he has to pay more to access" If what you're trying to do is pay for sex, hire an escort. No one is forcing you to marry anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 06:05 AM |
| 2 | It seems "Cock Carousel" describes normal dating in 2020; why do you have a problem with normal dating?LMAO. You think it's a bad deal to marry someone you don't want to marry and make babies you don't want, just because you're horny right now? No kidding. Getting married isn't something you do for sex. It's something you do if you actually want to get married. What bothers me is not that some men don't want to get married; it is that they are acting entitled to collect sex on demand from any woman that has had more than x number of partners. No one is entitled to anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 05:59 AM |
| -1 | It seems "Cock Carousel" describes normal dating in 2020; why do you have a problem with normal dating?A better analogy is that someone walks into my shop and buys 3 cookies for 6 dollars. Then you walk in and buy 3 cookies AND an ornately designed wedding cake. After you see the bill you have a cow because the bill of the person in front of you was only 6 dollars, and you have to pay $117. When someone marries you she's not just giving you sex. She's giving you the rest of her life and making you the father of her children. If all you really want is the sex, then don't waste the time of someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/20 05:24 PM |
| 1 | What are your physical deal breakers?I don't check the numbers, I look at the results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 10:38 PM |
| 1 | How would you handle different cheating scenarios?Long term physical and emotional affair. –I’d leave him immediately. Short term physical and long term emotional affair (sex happened once)— That’s not much different from number 1. I’d leave. Long term physical affair with no feelings.—I’d seriously consider leaving because any form of long term cheating would require him to go behind my back. Short term physical affair (1 night stand).---I’d forgive him, especially if it was unplanned. Long term emotional affair.---I’d leave. There is no point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do women today feel pressured into having sex?You all are giving yourself up that even those of you who are willing to get married only want sex. AF deceives women into thinking they are going to marry them. BB deceives women into thinking they are marrying for love. Both of you are positively reptilian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4W Do women today feel pressured into having sex?If I knew a charming beta wanted to be Mr. Alpha F, and that he was only trying to marry me for sex , I'd want nothing to do with him. AFBB isn't what women are shooting for. It's just what some end up with. Subreddits like this make me afraid to invest in any beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 03:49 AM |
| 4 | I need someone’s unbiased point of viewAll three have some measure of truth to them, but they are wrong about other things. Blue pill describes perfectly what parents want in a son in law, but it is not quite as accurate at describing what women want in a husband. Both women and their parents value character, love and success. However, looks do matter, and dominant men are preferred over men who father-in-laws have an easy time bossing around. Red pill is right that the meek don't inherit the earth. It is also accurate at describing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 04:46 AM |
| 4 | You should dump s woman if you find out she has a sex tape.Posting a video like that without consent is a crime. Yes, you can absolutely complain about it. You should complain to the police. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 03:38 AM |
| 5 | You should dump s woman if you find out she has a sex tape." Why would I stay committed to a literal pornstar??? " She didn't consent to the video's release. Calling her a porn star is ridiculous. The only thing she did wrong is trust the wrong person. " Am I a fucking idiot??? " Yes, you are. Revenge porn is illegal. You are blaming the victim for the actions of a criminal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 03:34 AM |
| 1 | You should dump s woman if you find out she has a sex tape.Releasing a sex tape of someone without their consent is a massive breach of trust, and it is ILLEGAL. Her boyfriend should be angry at the ex, not at her. How can he join in with the bullies instead of defending her? He cares more about what idiots think than about his own significant other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 03:18 AM |
| 3 | You should dump s woman if you find out she has a sex tape.I can judge them back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 02:59 AM |
| 6 | What’s missing? 🙈🙊Wow, I can't believe racists like you still exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 06:38 AM |
| 16 | Do ugly woman even hit a wall?If hitting the wall is the inability to get a commitment from a high value man, there is no wall. A 40-60 year old women isn't looking to date 25 year old studs. What is high value for her is not high value for a 20 year old. There is no real competition. People usually marry someone in their own age range with similar IQ, education level and socioeconomic status. One of my aunts married an unmistakably high value man when she was over 60. Her second husband would not have been compatible with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/20 11:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s the difference for you between someone you’ll hookup with compared to a relationship person?Say an overweight, couch potato women starts dating a fit man that works out everyday. Then she learns that he used to be fat and lost weight. Imagine she says, "What a disgusting pig! I can't consider you for more than a hookup now that I know you used to be that fat." Sure, it's within her rights to set that standard, but I'm still going to think she's an obnoxious joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 02:46 AM |
| 6 | Do men in TRP who “Spin Plates” just have to accept that they are perpetual plates themselves?"Men doing it deserves its own term," What would you prefer your plates call you?....Mashed potatoes ? Meatloaf? Vegan cauliflower crust pizza? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/20 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Genetics vs Environment/upbringingGenetics, environment, and stage of life. All interns and entry level employees act like betas, because their position requires them to take orders. As they climb the corporate ladder, they become increasingly dominant. What's different about people who identify as betas is that even when their status improves they keep on behaving as they were conditioned to behave when they were on the bottom wrung. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 04:30 AM |
| 2 | Almost half of married mothers in the US do not work full time.Domestic labor is work whether you are a paid housekeeper/daycare worker/nanny/cook etc. or a primary caregiver for your own family. Men aren't victims forced to "provide for" their wives against their will. They choose a labor arrangement that allows them to become parents without damaging their careers. They know they can't reach their career potential if they are not giving 100% to their job/craft/mission/business etc. They also know they can't give that 100% if their spouse is also giving 10… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel validated through sexual attention?(1) No. Likes mean nothing. Dumb memes, fake news, bathroom selfies, pictures of food and other terrible things get likes on social media. Swipes are a little more significant because they mean a human being wants to take time out of their day for you. However, a lot of the men on dating sites are desperate. They swipe right on the world hoping that someone in it will have sex with them. You never know what they really think of you. (2) No. I'd feel cheap, undercourted and undervalued. (3) Neith… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 06:41 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to N count - does it matter if it’s the number of men she’s slept with? Or just the men within your social circle that matters?Would the same judgements apply to men with high n counts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 04:40 AM |
| 4 | When it comes to N count - does it matter if it’s the number of men she’s slept with? Or just the men within your social circle that matters?Attachment disorders, growing up in the foster care system without a permanent home, childhood abuse and abandonment, repeated betrayals and intense heartbreaks are more likely to inhibit pair bonding than dicks. Someone with no history of cheating, who doesn't have trust issues, has a secure attachment style and isn't hung up on an ex isn't doomed to a loveless future. Even people with major baggage are often resilient enough to work through it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 04:37 AM |
| 4 | When it comes to N count - does it matter if it’s the number of men she’s slept with? Or just the men within your social circle that matters?"If I find out she was another man's trash, that makes me feel like I'm a fool for having romantic feelings for her." Why would you want to copy the feelings of someone who treats people like trash? You're increadibly weak if you'll stop caring for someone you loved based on what some random person thinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Why is nagging considered an issue?"If the person isn't doing what they're supposed to do, why shouldn't they get nagged?" The problem with nagging is that assumption that you always get to decide what another adult should do. If they can manage themselves, then you don't need to micromanage them. They are responsible for their own space, time and body. The consequences of their decisions are on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 02:49 AM |
| 7 | Have any of you genuinely tried to become a HVM? (by the FDS definition)FDS is downright predatory. I don't see why anyone would want to attract these people. It's sister sub is r/DarkTriadWomen. That says it all. FDS requires women to suppress their nurturing instinct and not love men back. It is all about power, ego, sex, money and keeping the upper hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/20 10:11 PM |
| 3 | Is it sensible for AF/BB to offend the guy if the woman is childless?Marriage isn't prostitution. It's a symmetrical exchange. Both people give love in exchange for love, sex in exchange for sex, and commitment in exchange for commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/20 07:01 AM |
| 3 | Is it sensible for AF/BB to offend the guy if the woman is childless?"Aging party whores deserve to die alone." Overpartiers belong to both genders. Even if all former goodboys/girls were to were to reject all former party animals, the former party animals would still find each other and marry. "Many of them only get [interested in becoming productive members of society, finding love and starting a family] after they realize that their alcohol, partying, and consumerism leaves them empty. " ...And, many of us only avoided partying because we were taught from an e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/20 06:21 AM |
| 5 | What are your physical deal breakers?Hard No - Being significantly shorter than me. - Being more than 5 years younger or 15 years older. - Erectile problems. - Less than perfect hygiene - Gas - Snoring - Thick saliva - Poor grooming - Sweating easy - Low IQ - A smell that I'm not attracted to. I don't care if he has just bathed. If his pheromones and microbiome aren't to my liking, we are just friends. Soft no -Uncircumsed -Shorter than 5'10 (I'm 5'8'') -More than a little overweight -Skinny -Average or barely above average IQ. -Po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/20 05:33 PM |
| 5 | Why do these guys care so much about tinder? Why not just meet girls through their friends/acquaintances?If you date someone in your social circle and the relationship goes bad, then your ex and whichever of your friends they date after you will remain in your life forever. If you meet on Tinder, then you will never see them after the breakup. The people they talk bad about you to will be people you're never going to meet. They won't date your friends, and there will be no love triangle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 11:48 PM |
| 3 | Is self-improvement the solution to getting alpha widowed?If you feel like you were alpha widowed because you lost the richest guy you ever dated, then yes, self improvement is the answer. Just not the type you are talking about. You've got to increase your earning potential so you can make your own money, and your financial situation won't depend on a man. If you are a gold digger, there is a good chance you'll just end up with a string of sugardaddies until your looks fade. Who can blame them for leaving if you don't love them? Improving appearance m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 08:57 PM |
| 5 | Are alpha-widowed women screwed?Cats, yes. Misery and settling? No. You don't need a man to win a beauty contest with your ex to genuinely fall in love with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 01:02 AM |
| 1 | If women are so attracted to dominance and fear-inducing behavior, why do they seem to hate men so much because of it?Actually we are quite open about what we want. We want a man who could slay a dragon for us. We don't want to BE the dragon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why don't older women find younger men attractive?Because men that hit on older women are usually looking for hookups, bragging rights or mother figures. They most likely don't want a relationship. Even if they did, it would not be a healthy one. Furthermore, immature, young men cannot fullfill the needs many of us have. We want to look up to the man we are dating, respect him, be adored and feel protected. The younger men would have the roles be reversed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 05:07 AM |
| 2 | What do you bring to a relationship besides looks?Companionship, unconfusing communication, honesty, and pretty much everything a man offers to someone he values and cares about. Note: I have a boyfriend but no ring on my finger. I'm not sure if that would make me single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/20 12:03 AM |
| 4 | PPD crew, be honest: do you get an ego boost when a taken/married person wants you?Once I accidentally dated a cheater and discovered he had a cohabitating girlfriend. I made sure she found out sooner rather than later. I told her all about his behavior and about the sneaky little things he did to try to keep us from finding out about each other. She dumped him and he had to move to a cruddy bachelor pad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/20 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: Why Is There Such A Negative Attitude Towards Childless Married Couples?Abusing and neglecting kids shows a lack of empathy. Choosing not to have kids does not. Childless couples are not harming anyone by choosing not to reproduce. On the contrary, they are doing the right thing. What if they were to cave to social pressure and have a kid that they didn't want, or a kid that they didn't have the mental health to properly raise? Who would want to be that kid? Self sacrifice isn't a substitute for love. Don't have kids unless you genuinely want to be a parent. Otherwi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?You can test that hypothesis by finding the most attractive men around and asking if it's true. "Do women always/usually/even ever have sex with you within hours of meeting you?" Also ask if alcohol, drugs or money was involved in cases where it happened. Call girls don't count. Also, take note where they are meeting their partners. If they are using one of those sites for threesomes, or they are swingers, or they are meeting on FETnet speedy sex is more likely. Even then, 2 hours is insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?Is that sarcastic? Most people don't want to have sex after an hour to two of meeting someone. It doesn't matter how attractive they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?What are they going to be left with when you're done wasting their prime? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 09:42 PM |
| 3 | Would you be okay with being a girls beta bucks?If you were only weeding out the women who rejected you in real life, you wouldn't have a small dating pool. You're weeding out everyone you are IMAGINING a past rejection from, and you're basing your declaration that they must not respect you on something that did not happen. The funny thing is, the 25-30 year olds you are judging were probably no different at 18 than 18 year old women are today. What makes you think that current 18 year olds would want to date you if you were the person you us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/20 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Can a guy tell when a girl has daddy issues and insecurity problems?Reading on here about age and beauty makes me feel pretty cruddy too. A lot of guys who have never met me evidently think I'm "post wall" at 31. The contrary feedback I get from men who know what I look like tells me they are wrong. Yet, the idea that I'm passed my expiration date, and my beauty is about to spoil still hangs over my head. However, some of these guys snearing about the wall are probably teens and young men 30+ women wouldn't want to date anyways. Their feelings might change when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you really know your own rating?Between 4 and 8 for emotionally detached raters. 10-"12" for unobjective boyfriends. I have such a combination of universal turnons, turnoffs, and controversial features that I can't set my appearance in a league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 03:57 AM |
| 2 | How does an average guy get a girl to ask him out?It's not a matter of the women's individual preference. It's a,matter of a societal custom that men make the first move. Choosing not to ask a women out is the same as saying you are not interested, because the ball is in your court. Women who go against the norm and pursue someone who has not pursued them frequently face negative consequences. They are chided for "chasing boys", " being easy", and "throwing" themselves. Some men lose all respect and interest in women who make the first move. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/20 01:57 AM |
| 2 | How does an average guy get a girl to ask him out?He can wish upon a star, or he can grow a backbone and ask her out. Like it or not, it is the cultural norm for men to make the first move. That is because most men prefer it that way. For most, it's a turnoff when women pursues them. It's unlikely a woman who likes you will take the risk of ruining her chances. She will wait for you to ask her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/20 06:24 AM |
| 2 | What are women's opnion regarding RedPill "Hypergamy"!Are women hypergamous? Virtually all non-married, non engaged people are hypergamous. That's the whole nature of the boyfriend girlfriend relationship. You're developing a relationship but keeping the door open to easily leave the other person. If you meet someone better, all it takes is a text to break up. There are no legal hoops to jump through and little to no social consequences for that decision. Once engaged or married, hypergamy is less common. The guy who leaves his wife for his younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/20 06:08 AM |
| 1 | About women finding 80% of men unattractive: is it really hypergamy or are most men just f*cking ugly?Women don't find 80% of men unattractive. It's just that most women don't want casual sex and those who do want it less often. If you're writing an average woman on OLD, chances are she's got 10/10 hunks her inbox offering to spend money on her. She's going to choose them over you, just like you'd choose a 10/10 over her. The same statistics do not hold true for relationships because the ratio of men to women is more balanced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/20 08:55 PM |
| 4 | Believing that men in their 30s have it better than women in their 30s is pure wishful thinking.And... women in their 30s can get sex and long term relationships with men in their 30s. The average age gap between husbands and wives is small in the U.S. Cradle robbers are a minority. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/when-people-get-married-every-state-2019-1%3famp Notice also that a lot of states have the average age of a bride within a few years of 30. In Washington D.C., the average age of marriage is 30 for both men and women. It's only where there is poverty and rampant sing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Believing that men in their 30s have it better than women in their 30s is pure wishful thinking."Fertility starts to decline way before menopause" Yah, it declines enough to make a single condom break unlikely to result in an unwanted pregnancy; it doesn't decline so much that a couple having frequent, unprotected sex will have trouble conceiving. People give birth in their 30s all the time. Sometimes their kids are barely a year apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 03:25 AM |
| 1 | What do marriage vows mean to you?Building your life plans and having kids with someone who won't promise you anything is what makes no sense. Sure he could go up to the alter and lie. However, it is easier for hum to mislead you in private. If he wants to start a family without getting married, there is no bigger red flag. Why should someone who is making the transition from boyfriend to family be opposed to going public and changing his marital status? No one refuses to sign adoption papers when they welcome a child into their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 01:07 AM |
| 1 | What do marriage vows mean to you?The value of marriage when both people take their vows seriously is that they form a stable family unit. They become partners for life. If they have kids, they raise and provide for them together. As they grow old, they always have each other. Even where one person is a liar, there is some value in having the promises and status change be public. The engagement is a formal invitation to start getting attached without being considered presumptuous or crazy. The marriage is a public license to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 07:15 AM |
| 1 | What do marriage vows mean to you?Essentially, you aren't really taking vows. You're just signing papers and calling it marriage. That doesn't define the value of real marriage any more than a bounced check defines money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 06:16 AM |
| 2 | What do marriage vows mean to you?They mean what they say, word for word. When two people exchange vows, they are exchanging promises to make a marriage covenant. "I, __, take thee, __, to be my wedded husband/wife, to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part," This promise forever shuts the door on hypergamous opportunities. If he loses his job, if he gets sick, if he falls upon hard times and your union makes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 05:57 AM |
| 1 | What do marriage vows mean to you?Would you say all promises are meaningless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/20 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Do women see gay men as “real” men?Yes, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 03:23 AM |
| 6 | CMV : Despite a women claiming to have "diverse taste" in men, it would always be positive for a man's sexlife to be taller, with a stronger jawline, a more symmetrical face and more dominant.Just because one trait is universally considered attractive doesn't mean that opinions about overall attractiveness are not subjective. A woman who is 5'11'' is going to think a guy who is 5'9'' is too short. However, a woman who is 4'11'' will probably be more than satisfied with his height. Someone who cares a lot about symmetry might think only a few guys with ultra symmetrical features are attractive. Another person might hardly care about symmetry at all. Some traits really are subjective; … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 01:57 AM |
| 1 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date."Seeing if there's an actual connection instead of just being sexual" That's the point. If you give a man sex, he will say anything to keep it coming. You'll never know if the connection you feel is an "actual" one until after he has wasted months or years of your life pretending to be something he isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/20 01:16 AM |
| 6 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date."I've slept with girls who had very few partners (1-3) faster " And what became of those relationships after you got sex? It sounds like you added to their n-counts, but that's about it. "Faster than I have with reformed sluts who want to play the waiting game." And what do you think the "sluts" are waiting for? Dead-end sex like the women in the first category got? "I hardly doubt the first category is more familiar with sex than the second..." No, they're not. The first category didn't have en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 11:17 PM |
| 10 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date.No, she's trying to weed out men who only want one thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 03:12 PM |
| 3 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date.Bad analogy because no one owes anyone anything. Do you honestly think ordering sex from a woman is like ordering food from a restaurant? Commitment isn't a currency to be exchanged for sex. It is something two people who love each other willingly enter into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 03:09 PM |
| 9 | "Reformed sluts" are probably among the worst types to date.First of all, a hypocrite is someone who doesn't practice what they preach. It is not someone who changes their behavior. Would you call yourself a hypocrite for not peeing in your pants like you did as a toddler? If not, you are a hypocrite to suggest other people should continue with everything they do. The girls you are butthurt about have learned from experience that if they have sex with every man who dates them, men will date them just for sex. For someone who is ready to settle down, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4All - what do you mean by “respect”.Both of ours. It takes two to have sex together. For the sex to happen, both people need to consent. It is not wrong to say no to sex, but it is wrong to trick someone into a sexless marriage. Virtually no one with a sex drive would knowingly marry someone without one. By misleading someone into thinking they want to have sex after marriage, they are depriving that person of critical information for one of the most important decisions they will ever make. That is horrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Who do you think talks more about their hookups men or women?It depends on the person and the audience. In places where promiscuous men are celebrated as studs and women are shamed as sluts, the men talk and the women don't. In nonjudgemental contexts between friends, women do talk a lot. Still, I think men talk more. Quite a few men have gone out with (but NOT necessarly had sex with) have been eager to tell me about their sexual experiences in as much detail as I could take. Even wild things like having public sex at a party in front of 20+ people, ligh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Q4All - what do you mean by “respect”."What if it is his business" If something is only his business, I do what he says. If it is not of our business, we negotiate. If it's only my business, he will let me decide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 03:18 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?"So many incels" doesn't mean all incels, so no, I'm not painting with a broad brush. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 02:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4All - what do you mean by “respect”.If someday one said he didn't want sex and asked me to back off, then yes, I would have to respect him. It's his body, so he gets to decide. Respecting him does NOT mean I should do what he says in regard to what is not his business. The flip side is also true. I would not have a right to decide which job he should take, whom he should do with his money, who he should associate with or anything of the sort. If I tried to control him in matters like these, then I would not be respecting him. He w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 02:29 AM |
| 4 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?I don't hear many women of any age acting entitled to male attention. Ignored women are more likely to be sad and have low self esteem than become angry like incels. The women who say "where have all the good men gone" are not lamenting a shortage of dating opportunities. They are bitter that everyone they date turns out to be just using them. What my post was addressing was not women complaining, but rather, certain men rejoicing at their loneliness. Some of these men seem to have vendetta agai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?" Almost a quarter of total relationships between men and women have a 10+ age difference." If that's the case, how is the average age of brides and grooms between zero and five years apart in developed countries? Are you including countries with child marriage in that statistic? https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-nations-of-europe-by-the-average-age-at-first-marriage.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/when-people-get-married-every-state-2019-1%3famp "studies have also shown … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?"settling for betas or damaged, declining former Chads" What makes you think women view their husbands that way? People don't have the same outlook when they fall in love than they have when they are swiping on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?Just because a woman can support herself and family doesn't mean she's going to be attracted to a man who lives in his mommy's basement. Also, some women are going to want to have kids and be primary caretakers. They want a breadwinner, not a Mr. Mom. There is nothing wrong with that. It's not somehow more noble to be a nanny for someone else's kids than to care for your own. A lot of men would rather have a stay-at-home wife/ part time breadwinner than hire a childcare worker. Insofar as that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 01:15 AM |
| 3 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?I'm an average 31 year old and my options have not declined. In fact, they have improved because now men my age want to settle down. Look up average age of marriage by country. You will find in some European countries that the average age for women to get married is at 30, or even older. Edit: I replied to the wrong commenter, but can't repost. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?Isn't that supposed to be the age where women can no longer get with the kind of man that they want? The period when a women is still attractive but declining is characterized as "approaching the wall" in the purple pill sidebar. 30 is definitely approaching the wall. It isn't the age where a lot of women hit. Furthermore, the wall is meaningless for most people. A 40 year old may be past her prime, but if she is attracted to men who are also past their prime, her marriage prospects will not dim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 12:43 AM |
| 5 | Q4All - what do you mean by “respect”.By "respect" we don't mean admiration. We mean basic human dignity. For instance, we want you to respect us when we say no to sex. That means more than simply not raping. It means you don't pressure us, chastise us or keep trying to touch us like you are entitled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 11:03 PM |
| 6 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?Except, those post wall women are strangers. They are not the people that hurt them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 08:44 AM |
| 7 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?30 years old isn't post wall. It's easy to find dates at that age, and in some countries, it is lower than the median age for getting married. The 75 year old widow is the one living the incel revenge fantasy. I'm not sure if certain incels can comprehend that her situation is not her fault. They seem to think all women are Chad chasers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 08:42 AM |
| 4 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?This seems less like revenge than straight up malevolence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 05:13 AM |
| 9 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?Some of these guys in their 20s don't know where the wall really is. 25- 30 year olds definitely aren't being rejected in droves. Older widows and women who are divorced do have a hard time. It bothers me to think someone would be gleeful about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 05:04 AM |
| 11 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?"They are basically walking reminders roaming around like parasites in need for a host. " You're forgetting that a lot of women put off marriage to pursue higher education and careers. Haven't you heard that women with higher IQs are older on average when they get married? Women who delay marriage don't need a host. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222548856_Childhood_IQ_and_marriage_by_mid-life_the_Scottish_Mental_Survey_1932_and_the_Midspan_studies Edit: Women who get married don't nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many incels and MGTOWers delighted at the thought of "post wall" women being rejected?My post history shows it posted only once. That post was removed. Is there a mistake here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 03:03 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of coffee first dates?I love coffee dates. It never occurred to me to think of them as evidence of an unwillingness to invest. Even my parents go out to coffee, and they are married. There is no bigger investment than that commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 02:07 AM |
| 2 | "Sacrificing" your careerTaking care of kids is work. That's why nannys, babysitters, cooks, housekeepers and book keepers get paid. When someone who is overqualified to do these jobs agrees to do them anyways without pay, that is a sacrifice with lifelong consequences. Switching to part time or abandoning the out-of-home workforce alltogether for as long as it takes to raise kids can decrease a college-educated person's future earning potential. That is why some people want their wives to be stay at home moms instead o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 06:07 PM |
| 3 | Men care less about looks in the context of casual sex, but more for a relationship. Women are the opposite,I'm not saying no woman marries someone she's not attracted to. I'm saying it's not the norm like OP is suggesting. Also, this doesn't necessarly fit the scenario of the woman trying for an 8 and reluctantly "settling" for a 6. The friend might have more physically attractive options, but she is choosing the tradcon. Growing up in a tradcon community we were taught that we should look for a "godly man of character" , and not lust after anyone until after we are married to him. She is complying p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 06:59 AM |
| 2 | Men care less about looks in the context of casual sex, but more for a relationship. Women are the opposite,I don't deny the guys like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Men care less about looks in the context of casual sex, but more for a relationship. Women are the opposite,Your group matches mine. Every time I've heard a woman talk about a ONS it's been followed up with a lamentation that he won't call or return calls. I know from the internet and TV that some women feel differently, but I think they are a prolific minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 02:53 AM |
| 4 | Men aren’t angry because they realized women want Chad. They’re angry because they realized they aren’t Chad.Do they know you're not interested in a relationship or does "playing fake beta bucks" mean you're pretending you want to marry the girls and leaving them crying out in the rain? These girls almost young enough to be your daughter are in their prime, and they could easily get Mr. "alpha fucks". If they knew you were only offering casual sex I'm not sure why they would choose you over them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 01:20 AM |
| 20 | Men care less about looks in the context of casual sex, but more for a relationship. Women are the opposite,I'd question your assumption that women commonly think they are "settling" when they get married. I know a lot of women who would rather be single than settle, and I haven't heard even one bride express dissatisfaction with her husband's appearance. Where are you getting this from? Also, I don't think men are less looks- oriented than women when they choose a casual partner. They're just more desperate for sex and they have fewer options. Women have more options than they have time or desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Women's options and being picky."I think the pickiness is out of a disconnect between what they feel like they deserve and the caliber of men they can realistically obtain." If it's true someone is overestimating their chances, the universe will take care of that. They will eventually realize what their options are. What OP was saying is that sometimes being single is the best option. It's better to not have a boyfriend than to have one you aren't romantically in love with. More often than not, people who wait for love end up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Don't you think the ideal LTR material man should be wanting sex early and then vetting you for commitment?How can you tell when you are being vetted for commitment and when you are simply being set up to think a man's non commitment is your fault? You can't. A high value women should be able to expect a man to wait for sex, because she's good for more than one thing, and because her time is too valuable to waste. The same is true for the high value man. He deserves to be treated as a potential long term partner, not used for sex or money. If both want sex early, then great. If one wants to wait, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/20 08:04 PM |
| 3 | What makes girls like dangerous man?It's not about feeling special-period. Its about feeling special to your partner. If he thinks you're interchangeable with your best friend, sister and cousin you've got a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/20 04:51 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Realistically, what does the future / near future hold for women wanting commitment?"Look at Hollywood actors" Which ones? The love-focused ones like Will Smith and Keanu Reeves, or the sex-oriented ones like Leonardo DeCaprio and the Rock? "Why are men turning down the oppertunity to have so much casual sex for one women ina commited relationship?" Because all men are not the same. "#1 excuse for getting out of dating someone" It's also the #1truthful reason for not wanting to commit to any of the women they are saying "I love you"to and banging. "A sociopath is literally some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 11:36 PM |
| 3 | [Q4All] Realistically, what does the future / near future hold for women wanting commitment?I'm not saying most men want nothing serious. I am saying that most men who say "I don't want anything serious" are telling the truth. I'm saying those particular men are backing their words with actions, so, there is no reason to blame the women. Also, you greatly underestimate the number of players. They're not all sociopaths. They are just horny. When given a choice between being honest and having sex, they choose sex. In some areas of town, virtually all the kids are being raised by single m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 10:34 PM |
| 4 | [Q4All] Realistically, what does the future / near future hold for women wanting commitment?If most men who say they don't want anything serious are lying, then why do they remain uncommitted for decades? I think it's more common for men to be players and tell the opposite lie. Even many who eventually commit don't want to. As the saying goes: "Why buy a cow if you can get the milk for free?" They won't commit unless there is no other way to get sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: what are you doing for Valentine’s Day?My boyfriend and I planned to go to a park with swan shaped paddle boats, but it was way too cold and too much of the lake was frozen. We ended up staying in with his cat watching The Chronicles of Riddick. Then, when it was almost done he (the boyfriend not the cat) had to rush to work. I went home and spent the rest of the day with my dog. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 02:18 AM |
| 2 | The Myth of the Carousal"Girls less good looking than me, not ugly, but where I had no doubt I could do better by a level because I had, they had better attitudes - but I was the guy they were trying to trade up to. " So, you we're looking to "do better" than the women whose time you we're wasting? It sounds so far like the noncommittal ladder climber is you. "They probably had dated guys on their level that also felt like they were walking on eggshells dating these women." Did you talk to their exs, or is this just mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 11:00 PM |
| 9 | The Myth of the CarousalYou make it sound like the legions of men lusting after 18- 20 somethings are looking for a deep spiritual connection, lifelong commitment, babies, and responsibilities. Most are not. It seems like men are projecting their own desire to have uncommitted sex until they can't get it anymore onto women. Really, many of the women who are being accused of riding the cock carousel are just getting played. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 04:42 AM |
| 42 | Q4Women: What's going through your mind when you deny a man sex after discovering he has money?Learning you are not really poor might change their perception of how interested you are, given the small amount you spent on a date. If a broke guy takes a woman on a cheap date, it's because he is trying not to break the bank. It's a complement that he offered to pay at all. If a rich guy does the same, that means the woman is extremely low on his priority list and he's looking for a low effort hookup. That's why guys pretend to be poorer than they are when they're just looking for sex, but ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 10:12 PM |
| 5 | Do women actually like "damaged" men, or is it simply selection bias?It depends on the woman. Some aren't looking for damaged men but they repeatedly fall for them in the process of trying to help. They have a hard time turning someone away after they play the pity card. They also let their partners get away with a lot because "he's had such a hard life." These women end up happy when they find someone, "damaged" or not, who treats them well. A lot of women are attracted to stories of overcoming adversity, not damage. The turn-on is due to respect more than sympa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/20 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do women seem to love damaged men? It doesn’t line up with any “pill”.Women looking for a man they can fix are trouble. They want a significant other that they can treat as a child and control without being considered controling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 11:20 PM |
| 1 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”No, she's not an angel. She's abusive and has borderline personality disorder. Those are major dealbreakers. I'm offended by the idea that people are "goods" that lose their value after someone uses and abuses them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 05:03 PM |
| 2 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”No one does stoning. They just read it in the bible and approve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:36 PM |
| 1 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”Just call her your ex. We are all more than a commodity, so no, I won't accept it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Women over 30, would you have dated the man you're with now when you were 20?How did 30 become Reddit's new 40? Sure, some women lose attractiveness early, but it's not unusual to have a longer prime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 03:19 AM |
| 1 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”"Am I supposed to be offended that no woman wanted to be with me when I was homeless?" Choosing not to date you isn't the same as dehumanizing you. If all they did is say "no" then there is not a reason to be offended. If they told you that you were used goods and verbally kicked you while they were down, then, that would be beyond offensive. I'm full of disgust for people like that. I know some people stigmatize and dehumanize people for being homeless. That doesn't make it right. Just because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 02:50 AM |
| 8 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”I just told you who I'm talking about. You're talking about the views of blue collar white males. I'm talking about the views of the people in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:37 AM |
| 2 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”Those are all temporary terms. Don't act like a creep, and you are not a creep. Succeed at something, and you are not a loser. Shave the hair on your neck and grow a backbone, and you are no longer a neckbeard. It's the misapplication of the terms and the attitude that sometimes is behind them that I've got a problem with. I have a problem with "used goods" all the time, because it is permanent, dehumanizing, and extremely sexist. It suggests that women are "goods" to be used and discarded rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:32 AM |
| 9 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”Reddit isn't a positive fantasy world. Men on here do talk about women as objects, but they are disproportionately right wingers, red pillers, MGTOWers and incels. Men exist that view women no differently from themselves. Having your heart broken, being left to raise your kids alone, being cheated on, or having a significant other die is cause for compassion, not dehumanation. Also, the dating market isn't half as bad for older women as Reddit makes it out to be. My widowed aunt got married a se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Fuck Buddies and RespectThat's how it sounds to me. I don't know how it is meant. Given that multiple people have said he does not respect her, I am guessing he does not respect her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/20 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Fuck Buddies and RespectThe term "fuck buddy" sounds like a derogatory term, so, I can't imagine using it with an actual friend. I'm not sure if some people percieve it differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 11:46 PM |
| 7 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”Maybe in a religious, hyper-conservative community. In most of the world, people think rationally. They're not ok with things like eternal torment and stoning brides whose hymans aren't in tact. People want someone to share life with, not just bleed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 11:39 PM |
| 4 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”"Rejecting" i.e. not dating someone isn't the same as making an objective value statement or dehumanizing them. Choosing your partner is ok. Degrading people is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Women over 30, would you have dated the man you're with now when you were 20?I met the guy I am dating now when I was 21 and he was 19. I didn't formally date him, but i also didn't date anyone else that year. I'd just been manipulated and cheated on by a pastor's son I thought was "godly" and trustworthy, and I wasn't eager to take another chance. I met my current boyfriend at a bus stop where we both waited at after class. After a while, he invited me to his house to watch Pan's Labyrinth. I said yes, and I started hanging out frequently, between classes and at the end… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 11:08 PM |
| 3 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”Narcissism-- viewing other human beings as "goods" to be used and disgarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 10:00 PM |
| 25 | What’s your opinion on a woman being called “used goods”I've never met any man in a LTR talk that way. It's the guys that only want one thing that try to convince women that they are only good for one thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 09:45 PM |
| 6 | CMV: How people find sluts as being disgusting parallels how people find creeps as being disgusting. And neither party should be shamed for their disgust.There is a difference between when an innocent guy is name-called "creep", and when someone is actually a creep. Creeps disrespect women and intentionally violate boundaries. They deserve to be shamed for it. Bullied, name-called people don't deserve the shame they get. "Sluts" don't deserve shame either, unless they are cheating or otherwise harming others. If your inability to mind your own business causes you to feel disgust for people who aren't hurting anyone, that's your problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Has your parents ever set you up on a blind date?Nope. They just told me that various guys from school were "Such a nice young man!" I never dated any of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 11:28 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Do you regret not dating/marrying the guy who really wanted you when you were younger?No. It's still an option to marry him and I'm not going to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Is it more natural for a man to be alpha or beta?He didn't provide. He conquered looted and raped. He was alpha on steroids+evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Is it more natural for a man to be alpha or beta?I meant to write Genghis Khan. This guy: https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/news/2003/2/mongolia-genghis-khan-dna | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Why doesn’t being hurt by alphas make women attracted to betas?I hope this is sarcasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 01:41 AM |
| 11 | Why doesn’t being hurt by alphas make women attracted to betas?This reflects my experience too. Guys with options are more likely to tell you if they aren't looking for a relationship. Desperate guys will say anything they can to keep anyone they can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Why doesn’t being hurt by alphas make women attracted to betas?Yes. People who love each other don't hurt each other if they can help it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Is it more natural for a man to be alpha or beta?Even Genghis Khan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Do men REALLY like “good girls”?Men like genuinely good girls. They don't like co-dependents, cowards, fakes, manipulators sympathy seekers, game players, stonewallers, passive aggressive mouses, and spineless people-pleasers who care more about what popular acquaintances think than about their SOs. Goodness needs to be accompanied by strength and sincere concern for the well being of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Women who want to have relationhips should probably lie, down-play or omit details from their sexual history.I don't lie, but I could get away with it if I wanted to. I never slept with --or even made out with-- someone who I would see again after we were no longer dating. The sole exception was my first boyfriend, a pastor's son that has more reason than me to not tell. We got scandalously to second base. Rather than lying to a stuck up religious conservative, I prefer to date the man I am dating. I got 5, he has 9. Neither of us care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Women who want to have relationhips should probably lie, down-play or omit details from their sexual history.I'm not arguing that lying is a good idea here... but it wouldn't be difficult. As long as you don't have multiple exs with no filter in the same friend group, college or workplace, you're not going have a reputation. "Especially with social media" Making announcements about your sex life on Facebook and twitter isn't something well adjusted people do. If someone tells you the truth about a high N count, it's unlikely to be out of an inability to hide it. More likely, she's honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/20 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Are most women even attracted to men?Yes, as a woman I can tell you it does not work. It is crass, uncivilized, and about as interesting as the story "Once upon a time...the end." Men continue to send portraits of their lonely penises for the same reason cats continues to bring you dead mice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 09:02 PM |
| 1 | What would you think would happen, if a women where to apply RP tactics and strategies on men?She would attract an insecure, spineless adult baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/20 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe that there is "someone out there for everyone"?No. There can't be, because sex ratios are not always 1:1. War, gang violence, sex selective abortions, and high maternal mortality among other things can lead to an imbalance. The idea that everyone has a soulmate is just a feel-good fantasy. It's numerically impossible in many places, and it is humanly impossible in all places. If you spend your life looking for a "perfect" match, you're going to die single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/20 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Morally speaking, is it worse to pump and dump a girl who you've willfully tricked into thinking you're interested in a relationship, or to hire a prostitute?No, I don't. When people are honest about whether they want casual sex or commitment, young adults can make a valid decisions. It's only when they are lied to and manipulated that they consent to the opposite of what they want. Lies can warp decision-making at every age. I just mentioned players going after young women because those are the ones who are less experienced usually easy to decieve. Of course, other things besides age contribute to vulnerability. Anyone gullible, desperate, trusting,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/20 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Morally speaking, is it worse to pump and dump a girl who you've willfully tricked into thinking you're interested in a relationship, or to hire a prostitute?It is immeasurably more ethical to hire a voluntary prostitute than to scam someone whose heart is on the line into doing a prostitute's job. Some players are almost like statutory rapists. They look for legal teens and women who are vulnerable, and they get them to say yes in a context where they are certain to make a decision that will harm them. An 18 year old can't make a meaningful decision with false information anymore than a miner can make a meaningful decision with an immature mind. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/20 06:06 AM |
| 8 | Why are women more prone to disgust than men?I'd say it is the opposite. Some men express extreme disgust, even when the unattractive women aren't interested in them. They criticize ugly women for having online dating profiles, or for wearing swimsuits at the beach. They rant on Reddit about all the physical inadequacies their former partners have had. The incel posts are the worst. They commonly shame women with large or average labia minora by calling them "roasties". According to them, this is a character flaw, indicating that a vagina … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/20 05:14 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to general dating/smashing/fwb/etc. which is more important on a spectrum, physical attraction or financial security. Which is more important on a spectrum for marriage/cohabitation?If I was living in a third world country in abject poverty with no educational or economic opportunity, I'd prioritize his ability to provide. Here, there is no need. I choose the hot guy. Note: It would take a lot to kick a billionaire or perfect 10 model down to my league. Schizophrenia, borderline personality, or history of being an abuser all come to mind as potential causes. I'd no doubt say no to both men in the analogy. A financially chaotic 7 or 8 vs an ugly guy with a 6 figure salary is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/20 04:11 AM |
| 2 | What do women bring to the table in relationships?I hope this is sarcasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 05:58 AM |
| 1 | What age do u think women hit the wallDo the women who date you know you consider them "scraps"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | What age do u think women hit the wallHow would you define "high quality"? I don't want to attract the kind of guys I attracted in college. Nor do I know anyone else who does. Men back then were aweful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 07:14 AM |
| 2 | What age do u think women hit the wallYou're forgetting about male pattern baldness, sun damage, yellowing teeth, de- brightening eyes, nose hair and beerbellies. Those issues can start long before age 30 in a bunch of men. It's true that men can usually extend their primes longer than women, but most don't put in the work I think greater social acceptance for men aging creates the illusion that all men age like wine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 06:59 AM |
| 1 | What age do u think women hit the wallI've honestly never heard of someone outside reddit take fertility statistics into account while choosing a mate. A potential mother's desirability has more to do with whether she will make a good mother than the percent chance of her concieving after 2 months. Most men who want children want 1 or 2, not over a dozen like they did in the agrarian days when the preference for young women probably took hold. The only reason anyone makes a fertility contest among women who are all going to stop rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 06:33 AM |
| 2 | What age do u think women hit the wallIf she is emotionally stable, reliable, reasonably intelligent, secure and not overly concerned about what people think, she will be taken seriously for life. Most of the old women who aren't taken seriously now probably weren't taken seriously when they were young either. That's why they are still on the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 05:42 AM |
| 6 | Why should any woman take dating advice from TRPs?People play stupid games to win stupid prizes. Following red pill advice will help you catch a toxic man who will belittle you, tell you what you're thinking, assume you are cheating, and disrespect you for being loyal, assuming that your presence with him is evidence you are not good enough for a chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/20 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Should men feel guilty for being attracted to teenage girls?Yep lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 05:40 AM |
| 11 | Should men feel guilty for being attracted to teenage girls?You can't tell the difference between a 17 and 18 year old unless you ask, so if men are attracted to 18 year olds, they will inevitably be attracted to some underage girls. Attraction is not their choice. I am still disgusted with the people that watch "virgin manipulation" and "teen" porn and people who behave inappropriately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 02:24 AM |
| 3 | Redpillers: what kind of plate would make you drop all other plates?"Do none of these women have Grandmothers?" Grandmothers lacked educational economic opportunities so they needed to marry even if it meant snagging a man who only wanted to get married for sex. Nowadays, marriage is optional, so there is no reason to trap you into it. "Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?" No one wants to take you as her lawfully wedded husband "for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do part," just so you can empty you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/20 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Ladies, what would you say most guys you have rejected have in common?Poor personal grooming and/or hygiene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 06:25 AM |
| 3 | Do men love dominating as much as women love being dominated?Everyone is biologically programmed to want a healthy, robust, strong spirited mate. That is good genetics. So, men are rarely turned on by women acting frail and helpless. "Starfishing" is the chief complaint about women who are "bad in bed". On the other hand, men seem to like spanking more than woman like getting spanked. Maybe it's their love of butts. Maybe they like to imagine they can teach you what is "bad", and get you to do their will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: How much do you care about a man's sexual history?I don't care about n count. However, if he is hung up on an ex, has a history of cheating, is a player, has an STD, or he has knocked someone up, I won't date him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: what do you have to say to the women who try to marry a good man before they hit the wall, but fail?You seem pretty sure that everything was her fault, but you weren't there. This isn't a proper assumption. A husband isn't a trophy you can earn purely by your own merit. His love and commitment is a gift. An increasing number of men are deciding to never give such a gift to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men?Someone who calls shortness a "character flaw", and who considers short men "not really men" and thinks they "don't deserve love" aren't "intelligent and progressive". They are regressing back to middle school. I know men much shorter than 5'6'' find love and get married. To see a legion of them at once, go to a South East Asian county. All the men are ultra short, yet they have wives and kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:16 PM |
| 2 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?The mother is the one doing all the work parenting and financially supporting herself and her kids to the best of her ability. Send her to jail and the state will have to pay for and care for the kids alone like she was trying to do. The tab thst the state picks up comes from the dad not doing his part. Put him in jail, and neither the state or the kids are worse off. Why would you sympathize with the one creating the tab just for his gender, even though it is your taxdollars going to pay for hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 08:54 PM |
| 1 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?That's why I was arguing in favor of making deadbeat parents pay child support. Abandoning your kids and forcing taxpayers pick up the tab should not be an option. Though government can't rightly force people not to have kids, it can force them not to neglect them if they have them. Child support laws go after the parent who is not doing their part--the parent who would otherwise have no incentive to behave more responsibly in the future. Withdrawing welfare would harm innocent children. Child s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 08:25 PM |
| 1 | How often do you wear 8 inch heels?Never. I value my ankles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 05:14 AM |
| 4 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?"Either consenting to sex is consenting to a baby or it isn't. " You don't get to decide whether or not to consent to a baby after you make one. Maybe you think "I wanted your mom to abort you," is a good explanation for why you your fatherless kid grew up in poverty without a male role model. For the kid and the woman you pumped and dumped, that just makes it worse. Maybe instead of trying to convince the world your kid should have been aborted, try to stop introducing your sperm to eggs you do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 12:34 AM |
| 13 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?"The slut should have kept her legs shut." Are you forgetting that you put your dick between her legs and shot your sperm at her eggs? Maybe it's you that should have kept your pants zipped. After all, you are the one who isn't willing to care for the baby that results. "Spouting hardcore prolife rhetoric the second they think they may lose access to a man's money." If she has the baby she will lose access to her own money. Babies are expensive. Not only do you have to buy diapers and other baby… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 09:59 PM |
| 8 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?No. Abortion is only an option up to the point where a particular women starts to see it as a baby. Once maternal instinct kicks in, its hardly a choice. Most would abort an embreyo. Few would abort a viable fetus, even if they are pro choice. A woman's abortion views should be part of what you base your sexual decisions on. If you know your partner could never have an abortion and you put a baby in her anyways, you share the responsibility. The fact some women have abortions does not get you of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 08:17 PM |
| 3 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?Only by men they have freely chosen, in accordance with fantasies born of their own innitiative. No one wants to have someone else make sexual decisions for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 07:55 PM |
| 4 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?This sounds like the path to becoming an incel who no one likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 07:53 PM |
| 11 | How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?It can't. Making people realize this is the only thing good about Red Pill. Immature guys finally figure out there is no fairy God mother that's going to reward them with sexual partners. You've got to attract women to be with women, and that means being attractive. You can't adjust the sexual marketplace. You can only adjust your strategy. Shower, wash your hair if you have some and scrub with body wash every single day. Clip and clean your nails. Wear decent clothes Get in shape. Manage your w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Why dont guys fall in love with girls as easily?Because sex is a powerful bonding experience for more women than men. This article explains it well. https://www.elitedaily.com/women/oxytocin-science-makes-harder-women-casual-sex Don't have sex early on, and the man and woman will be more likely to fall in love at the same speed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 09:14 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe in the Male Wall?It matters for the men on here who want to date 18-22 year olds their whole life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Do you believe in the Male Wall?True if you're filthy rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 06:34 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe in the Male Wall?Only for men who work out, are well groomed, eat healthy, have good genetics and don't let themselves go. Some men have beer bellys and male pattern baldness by their late 20s. Most decline at least a little by their 30s. Then, by their 40s, nearly all are only attractive to women within a few years of their age. A few unicorns remain sexy past age 50, but they are outliers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 06:32 AM |
| 8 | Do you believe in the Male Wall?2 years older isn't noteworthy; that's basically the same age. 4 years is barely significant. Case open. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 06:21 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe in the Male Wall?They prefer older men's money. Not their looks. The men that young women are most into are in their 20s and 30s. There are a few exceptions over 40, but not many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/20 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: From your experience, at what height does it really start to become a disadvantage in dating for men?Whether height is a disadvantage depends on her height, her preferences, and how important those preferences are to her. I know a girl who was primarily attracted to height. It didn't matter how skinny or asthetically challenged a guy is. As long as he was super, duper, duper tall, he's hot. For others, height makes little to no difference beyond a certain point. They only care that a guy is taller than them. Since women are, on average, 5 inches shorter than men, finding a short-enough women wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/20 08:33 PM |
| 3 | How important is authenticity in a partner?It's vital. If someone isn't comfortable sharing his preferences values and opinions with me, he can't be happy with me long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/20 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Women who think it's better to make a man wait a few months before you have sex because it helps to build an emotional bond, why do you care if he has sex with someone else later in the relationship?The battle isn't worth winning. I'd dump him the moment I saw his true colors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 07:12 AM |
| 3 | Women who think it's better to make a man wait a few months before you have sex because it helps to build an emotional bond, why do you care if he has sex with someone else later in the relationship?No, prostitution is transactional. People like you are part of the reason I wish it was legal. You could negotiate the sex-for-resource exchange openly, rather than going out with an unsuspecting date and manipulating her into feeling obligated. Better yet, get a sex doll. She would be a virgin and come in a plastic bag. Once you take her out, she would have sex with you daily. Then, when you get sick of her, you can throw her away, and there will be no hurt feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 07:08 AM |
| 3 | Women who think it's better to make a man wait a few months before you have sex because it helps to build an emotional bond, why do you care if he has sex with someone else later in the relationship?You can't keep a disloyal man by letting him cheat. Eventually has going to find someone challenging enough to make him obsessed with her, and she's going to say "no" until he leaves you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 06:32 AM |
| 3 | Women who think it's better to make a man wait a few months before you have sex because it helps to build an emotional bond, why do you care if he has sex with someone else later in the relationship?Everyone is entitled to wait or refuse sex, including you. Virginity is not a requirement. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result? Sometimes having sex early on has negative consequences. Things that can go wrong: -The oxytocin released during sex causes the women to feel irrationally attached to a man who turns out to be wrong for her, abusive, or not interested in sticking around. -Having sex early on makes it less special, and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 06:20 AM |
| 5 | Women who think it's better to make a man wait a few months before you have sex because it helps to build an emotional bond, why do you care if he has sex with someone else later in the relationship?Even if it is true that the neighbor would let him use her and move on, he's eventually going to find someone who says "no" to him. Someone who is committed is not going to run after the forbidden fruit. Why should I have to choose between being dumped and cheated on? A man who loves me won't do either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 11:21 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women who make men wait for months just don't like sexNot true. Sex is a bonding experience for a lot of people, women especially. We want to be careful about who we become irrationally attached to. Waiting to have sex reduces the chances of getting hurt. It also makes us less likely to be disrespected and dumped. Men often write off women with high n-counts as only good for one thing. Click on the post about slut shaming in my profile. You'll find a lot of men who would never consider a LTR with a women who has had casual sex. NEETVirginWinner got… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 12:42 AM |
| 4 | For those women who believe in the 3 month wait rule"What value are you bringing to his life while you are making him wait 3 months for sex?" We are getting to know each other to see if we would be compatible long term partners. If we are not, it would be wasted time whether we were having sex or not. Not having sex is preferable because it means we will have less of a chance getting hurt if it doesn't work. Waiting would also make it more special. Sex is better when there is love involved, and when there is a period of anticipation beforehand. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:50 AM |
| 4 | Is there a difference between redpill term "Betabucks" and Femaledatingstrategy's term "High Value Men"?Lol, Henry Cavill is as hot as anyone can possibly be without spontaneously combusting. I'm guessing you are a straight male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 08:34 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Dark Triad Looks Bad on DweebsThe Dark Triad makes all people who have it incapable of relationships. The only reason self-respecting women give men like that the time of day is that they pretend to be something they are not. They'll appear remarkably compassionate and interested in your life when they are really just trying to figure out how to manipulate you. They want to know what you want so they can pretend to be that and suck you in. Then, once they have earned your trust, they will identify your fears and insecurities… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 05:06 AM |
| 18 | Are sex robots the cure to all of men’s woes?I don't know, but they sure will cure a lot of women's woes. Men who treat women as sex objects can get some actual sex objects. They will no longer have a compelling motive to say fake "I love you"s, make empty promises, play, manipulate, mislead, lie about STDs or pressure reluctant women into sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Original survey data on perceptions of "relationship value" of average man and average womanThere is a stereotype that the average man is after 1 thing and the average woman is looking for a meaningful relationship. That may be why some people thought the average women has greater relationship value. The statistical difference was small though. Most participants considered men and women equally suitable. I side with the majority. Career plans, financial instability, mental health and relationship baggage seems to be more influential than gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 05:49 PM |
| 2 | In General, Do Women Judge Quiet Guys Harsher Then More Extroverted Guys.I definitely don't. I'm an intervert and I prefer to be around other introverts. You make more sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 05:08 AM |
| 1 | To you, what makes a woman "low value"?I wouldn't define any women as "low value" because that's not how I talk about other human beings. I will use the term low value relationship opportunity instead. That's basically any woman who fits the stereotype red pillers apply to all women. She lacks self awareness. The relationship feedback she gives you is inaccurate or non existent. She has no capacity for love or attachment. She will leave you for someone she thinks is better if given the opportunity. She's always drooling over someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 11:05 PM |
| 2 | How common is it to date/fuck more than one person in the same social circle?It's common, but virtually always a bad idea. Romantic relationships are strained because a bunch of exs are still around. Friendships are too. Girls fight over guys and guys fight over girls. It's a mess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do women feel so entitled to a mans money?Because you're dating gold diggers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 04:46 AM |
| 2 | How do redpillers justify wanting a woman with fewer sexual partners, while not judging themselves by the same standard?If by female hypergyny, you mean leaving your spouse for someone richer, I absolutely do shame that. If hypergyny simply means finding higher status attractive in a potential mate, that's not wrong or analogous to sexual double standards. A better analogy for the hypocrisy of slut shaming would be if women with student loans went around shaming men for having student loans. By shaming, I don't mean choosing not to date them, or saying they don't want to start a marriage with two degrees worth of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/20 03:28 AM |
| 4 | Q4Women - How important are looks to you when it comes to casual sex?Indian incels on Reddit are about as good at representing Indians as white incels are at representing whites. I live somewhere that a lot of Indian men come to work and research, and there isn't anything wrong with the ones here. On the contrary, they're some of the smartest, technologically savvy people I've ever met. They speak between 3 and 8 language fluently, not including programming languages. Some have multiple advanced degrees. They can relate to people of all cultures and academic fiel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Is being “Not like the other girls”a good dating strategy?Putting down others to build yourself up, is always a bad strategy. So is being someone you are not. Chances are, someone who uses being "not like other girls" as a dating strategy is doing one or both of those things. Some men use the same tactic. They'll bring up all sorts of negative male stereotypes and tell you they are different. It doesn't work on me. I know too many great guys to be fooled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 12:59 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] In a breakup the dumper is the victim, not the dumpee.There doesn't always need to be a victim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/20 12:03 AM |
| 1 | How do redpillers justify wanting a woman with fewer sexual partners, while not judging themselves by the same standard?I agree that whether you are a man or women, it is reasonable to seek out a partner with a similar number of partners. If you have been saving yourself for marriage, it would be hard not to be distressed if your partner does not do the same. The people I have a problem with are the men who deflower as many virgins as they can get their hands on, call them trash when they are done, marry someone they don't really love because she won't give her virginity before marriage, and then act like she's t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/20 04:17 AM |
| 3 | How do redpillers justify wanting a woman with fewer sexual partners, while not judging themselves by the same standard?The problem with judging men differently in the matter of premarital sex is that the men are having sex WITH the women. If they want to discourage women and encourage men, then men and women will be at odds in every sexual decision. Instead of mutual benefit, it is a zero sum game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 08:07 AM |
| 4 | How do redpillers justify wanting a woman with fewer sexual partners, while not judging themselves by the same standard?It's not about being feminized. It's about being consistent about whether or not rules of chastity begin before or after marriage. If men want to have tons of premarital sex with women, they can't also expect women to be virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 07:59 AM |
| 2 | How do redpillers justify wanting a woman with fewer sexual partners, while not judging themselves by the same standard?Not something men would do either. S/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Do guys want a "Pick Me" girl?Mods aren't very efficient on that sub. The posts that belong there are the ones that stereotype and tear down other girls in an effort to appear special (see sub description and rules). Oversensitive people keep posting random memes where a girl says she is different, even if no superiority is implied. I guess it is assumed that the meme writers must think themselves better than other girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/20 04:34 AM |
| 28 | Bad boys get to have sex with women in their physical prime, whereas nice and stable guys get the reward of older and more "mature" womenYah this. Also, we don't gush about how nice the nice ones were. That would make it sound like we were still interested in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 05:03 AM |
| 3 | Bad boys get to have sex with women in their physical prime, whereas nice and stable guys get the reward of older and more "mature" womenIt is not a matter of settling. People look for different traits in a spouse than they look for in casual partners. Being an undependable, narcissistic, unfaithful, jerk isn't necessarily going to be a dealbreaker for a one night stand. However, no one in their right mind is going to want to commit the rest of their life to a guy like that and make him the father of their kids. Similarly, a homely beta that struggled in the casual dating market might do better later on in the marriage market whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 04:48 AM |
| 11 | Bad boys get to have sex with women in their physical prime, whereas nice and stable guys get the reward of older and more "mature" women"Alternatively, fuck early 20s escorts. Alternatively get a young girl from a poor country" Did you really just present "getting a young girl from a poor country" as interchangeable with hiring an escort? You mention dumping girlfriends when they pass their prime. What's going to happen to your mail order bride? Are you planning to use her as a sex slave and dump her in her 30s? This is all so messed up. It's like you have no heart at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 03:37 AM |
| 5 | Do guys want a "Pick Me" girl?There is a sub dedicated to those girls. r/notlikeothergirls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 03:13 AM |
| 4 | What type of women are the most and least compatible with High Dominance Men?Someone capable, confident, strong enough to speak her mind when necessary, not easily intimidated, but yet is attracted to dominant men. She's got to be submitting because she wants to, because she respects him, and because she is proud of him; not because she feels obligated. Her partner needs to know that she is not submitting out of weakness, or out of an inability to make decisions on her own. Submission for her is a decision. If he abuses the power she lets him hold, she will take it back … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Imagine how easy dating would be if average/ugly people stopped chasing attractive people.You are now assuming things instead of addressing the content of what I wrote. I think this discussion is over.😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 03:18 PM |
| 7 | Imagine how easy dating would be if average/ugly people stopped chasing attractive people.I can't speak for everyone. However, I'd rather be teased by someone genuinely attracted to me than "complemented" by someone who thought I wasn't good enough for a LTR. All 5s don't think they are too good for you. Just too good to bother with someone who isn't really that into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/20 02:23 AM |
| 23 | Imagine how easy dating would be if average/ugly people stopped chasing attractive people.Why would you expect someone who you see as "only bangable but not LTR material" to like you as much/more than a woman you admire and consider out of your league? The 5s are not "more entitled than the 10s" . All are equally entitled to say no. If someone wants a long term relationship and you're not offering that, they are making the right decision by not wasting time with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?"It doesnt feel as validating because she has done it with a bunch of other people. " Just what every virgin longs for (/s) a man who wants to fuck her for validation. Having successful conquests doesn't make you valid. It makes you a player. If you want casual sex, the only ethical way to go about getting it is to have it with a woman who wants the same thing. If you find everyone who wants what you wants disgusting... I don't even know what to say to that. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?You said "deciding who is fit to marry." That is a universal declaration. Deciding who to marry is a decision for yourself, deciding who is fit to marry is making a judgement on behalf of all men.... A decision on behalf of swingers, men who want open marriages, men with promiscuous pasts who care more about having a partner who matches their high sex drives than a partner with a low n count, male porn stars who want someone not disgusted with them, and even normal men who care more about the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?"Deciding who to marry IS deciding who is fit to marry." Only if you get to choose who other men marry. Most men and women are going to marry, and few of them are going to be virgins on their wedding night. "They absolutely have a right to talk about it and share opinions" And, people who listen to your opinions absolutely have the right to talk about how hypocritical they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 04:03 AM |
| 2 | If every guy was attractive, would that just raise the bar or improve the condition of everyone?I think it would improve the condition for everyone. If a man was compatible with me in every way and I loved him as a person, he wouldn't need to be the absolute hottest guy around to make me fall in love with him. He would just need to be more than a 5/10. I don't think I am alone in this. A little bit of attractiveness can go a long way If it is attached to the right man. If no man was ultra-short or had conspicuous, chemistry-killing flaws, then their RMV would raise dramatically among compa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 02:46 AM |
| 5 | There’s nothing inherently wrong with adult men in their 20s and 30s dating adult women who are in their late teens or 20s respectivelyTwo circles very far apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?It's his right to decide who to marry, not who is fit for anyone to marry. When he tries to speak for everyone, he's just blowing hot air. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?I was quoting you when you said "laugh at the poor fool" about a woman who makes the mistake of having a one night stand with you, and responding with sarcasm. Your IQ is the temperature of snow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?If you've been promiscuous as a single man, would you say that your proper place is in the bed of someone who does not love you, every night forever? Not marrying someone is not shaming them, but labeling them and declaring them unfit for marriage certainly is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?The problem here is that there is no distinction between promiscuity while single and promiscuity while supposedly commited. Liar/cheaters make bad spouses. Honest people who like sex do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?A man that opens many doors while married is not a master key. He's a guy that's going to need a lawyer. Same goes for a female cheater. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?" high risk" (Just for her) By having a one night stand, you are risking STDs. You have probably got one right now and don't know it. "Low reward" (Just for her) So, I take it you're bad in bed. "Laugh at the poor fool" Har. Har. Very funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?Quite possibly because word travels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 10:44 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women are right to select for "Chad" even when it's just a ONS because low value men like those found in TRP are more trouble than they are worth."Thinks that guys will wait as long as they did when she was 20". Assuming the only thing that declines as a women ages is her appearance, the men who are no longer willing to wait are going to be the ones that are only after one thing. That seems like a pretty efficient way to weed the wrong men out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/20 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you think people who have been in an open relationship would find it hard to be in a monogamous one?His | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 10:13 PM |
| 13 | "Women" these daysOnly 1.4% of the US population has borderline personality disorder. https://www.nami.org/learn-more/mental-health-conditions/borderline-personality-disorder This group does not represent 100% of "women these days"; it demands 100% of the attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think people who have been in an open relationship would find it hard to be in a monogamous one?Yes, and hopefully my last. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 04:54 AM |
| 4 | Hey Kings, remember not to settle for a used up, impure, defiled HUSSY in 2020. You deserve an unsullied maidenhead on your marriage night. #NoHymenNoDiamondIf you're not an unsullied virgin yourself, then no, you do not deserve a virgin on your wedding night. You can't expect premarital commitment if you're not willing to return it. That's like having a relationship where you are allowed to sleep around when your wife is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you think people who have been in an open relationship would find it hard to be in a monogamous one?Nope. I found it easy to be in a monogamous relationship. I hate my open one. I'm going to end it unless he's willing to start being exclusive soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 04:41 AM |
| -1 | Why do so many women get into abusive relationships when they have limitless optionsThis is so messed up that the English language can't even begin to untangle it. Get help, now! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/20 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?"A man of value will not deal with these women.." So, instead of shaming the women you sleep with, you are shaming their future husbands. Got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/19 11:41 PM |
| 3 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?He's bisexual, not gay, and yes, I know he's attracted to me. There are plenty of NSFW indicators of that. If he wasn't really interested I would know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 11:09 AM |
| 5 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?Just because some men only want one thing doesn't mean that is all "sluts" are good for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 05:36 AM |
| 5 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?"Some of those men probably wouldn't mind if a woman slept with other women." I can kind of relate to that from the other side. I wouldn't mind a significant other remaining friends with his male former FWBs. However adherence to female FWB makes me miserable and destroys relationships. I don't know why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:34 AM |
| 5 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?If you're getting some you're a slut too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:26 AM |
| 13 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?Hypocracy is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:23 AM |
| 3 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:23 AM |
| 3 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?If a guy you didn't know played a lot of monopoly, would you be upset if he didn't play with you? Assume 10s to hundreds of people are all trying to play with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?"How would you be able to tell" I could tell if he calls other women sluts, whores, easy, used toys ect. Even if he pretends I'm special, I know its a scam, and he would treat me like the others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:08 AM |
| 22 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?Yet the guys are being sluts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Why do men who want women to have casual sex with them slut shame those who do?So if you give one man a slice of pie, there's got to be enough for all of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 03:01 AM |
| 1 | post wall women and low smv menThe subreddit the women are using is r/datingover30 not r/incelsover30. Also, the concept of "the wall" only applies to people who expect their partners to be significantly more attractive than themselves. If a woman expects to continue getting attention from men in the top 1% after she ages below the bottom 50%, she's going to have a problem. However, that problem is not unique to women. Plenty of men expect more from their partners than they can give. That's why there are so many incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/19 08:04 PM |
| 10 | Its often said that if a women shows disinterest/is unavailable the best tactic is to withdraw attention. Is that completely unattractive?Forget about tactics. If the other person shows disinterest, just move on. Why get your hopes up when they are giving you no reason to? You will either get rejected or they will use you as backup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/19 12:21 AM |
| 21 | If so many men are out of the market (live at home, are in prison, bad social skills, have crappy jobs etc) why is it still fairly competitive to get a GF?Because men of all ages are competing for a small subset of the female population in their early 20s. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/christian-rudder-dataclysm-okcupid/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/19 08:28 PM |
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