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Hating a certain group of women ≠ hating women lol. Unless you are saying all women are promiscuous which is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:56 PM
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Once again you are taking a vocal minority and assuming that it applies to the whole world. I'm talking about misandrists specifically. This video also did very good in terms of like to view ratio by tiktok standards, 170k likes for 1.2 million views. Lots of women agree with her. Way too many, that's for sure, lol. But you wouldn't find a single misogynist advocating for the same thing, let alone an amount similar to that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:54 PM
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Haven't seen a single screenshot of the 70,000 thing, could be fake. Assuming it's real, it's 0.00175% of men, which is insignificant. Also being a member of a chat ≠ participating in it's activities, so it's even lower. Women use a dumb hash tag they don't follow through on But I guarantee those 70k men were all rapists actively harming women and children You assume that because you hate men lol, most of these were likely just using the chat as porn source.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:45 PM
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The majority of crime perpetrators are men. Especially violent crime Men comit crime on other men. And women 95% plus of all violent crime is done by men. Onto women and onto men True, doesn't indicate anything other than men typically being stronger and more likely to use strength as means of achieving their goals compared to women. The difference is, men are way less likely to face violent crimes from their partners (if they sre straight) Actually no! In terms of rape, men are as likely to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:10 PM
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Read the post again
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:47 PM
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No it wouldn't. Our closest genetic ancestors (along with chimpanzees) are bonobo chimps and they are matriarchal. And with bonobos, the males are physically bigger and stronger - just like with humans. Along with chimpanzees. Who are patriarchal and have a closer strength and weight dimorpism to the one humans have. Bonobos are generally more gracile and their dimorphism isn't as significant. Wasn't it? What time in particular are you referring to? The time after women getting a right to choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:47 PM
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It's not X it's Y final boss Anyways no, women themselves disprove your first statement. Women actually feel more entitled to male bodies and sexual pleasure from their partners. Does that mean they don't love them? indifference is not hate. it's autonomy. Pretty sure the examples I provided in the post aren't indifference. Would you say this is indifference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:34 PM
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You'd rather mistreatment and horrors to nothing. Being single is a greater risk factor in developing depression for men than it is for women (Van de Velde S, Bracke P, Levecque K. 2010)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:25 PM
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Men too undisciplined to have standards: women at fault. More news at 11. If most men had standards they'd die alone and childless. Dating and love also impact men's lives and wellbeing way more than they do for women link and men are more satisfied with their relationships.link. Mostly this happens because of how much more interests men have in women and how much better and less judgemental they are towards them. Women also rapidly lose sexual desire towards their partner after securing a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:23 PM
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Ya that's what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:07 PM
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In that case still it would mostly be manpower (pun intended), as in help with things that require male dimorphic traits like brute force, or commonly male behaviors and skills. Also money, which a man is expected to spend a significant amount of on his partner. Oh and don't forget that women also enjoy sex lol, the only difference is that nowadays because of insanely inflated standards they only want to have it with top10% of men and the rest don't turn them on in comparison. It's just that hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:06 PM
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You would think none of you have mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, daughters and sons, or friends for that matter, the way you talk about the opposite sex. I have had all of those and talking to them, overheating their conversations, observing their actions pretty much confirmed what I think about them. relations between the sexes are seen solely through the lens of frustration, misinformation, and confusion about dating and sex as if it is the only issue that matters and the only exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:54 PM
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Because they are more open to the process Yeah bro totally not because therapy is tuned primarily for women's issues and needs, that more than often exist solely in their heads. Therapy isn't meant to "solve" your problems. It is meant to help you become a well rounded individual so that when you do have problems, YOU can solve them. Properly. Same kind of bullshit I hear every time. Therapy didn't help me solve my involuntary celibacy at the time, it also didn't help me solve how I was getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:48 PM
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It’s hard to be attracted to a whole group of people that sacrifices everything in life to the altar of ego signaling. Yeah, that's why women statistically like narcissistic men more, lmao. another link The women and children and maybe some male elderly folk actually think about the things outside of our egos and are working with a lot more information than you guys have which is why you alll sound so STUPID when you try to get all philosophical about how women work. You don’t even know us. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:37 PM
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No, they like and want their bodies. Nothing else. That's not love, it's not romance and it's certainly not a relationship. Then they would just be using prostitutes, they also wouldn't be shaming easy and promiscuous women who can give them "the only thing they want" so easily. Instead, they want women to be loyal and love them, just like any normal person. And why is this worse than misogyny? It's not worse, just more hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:25 PM
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Nope it wasn't addressed specifically to you, I used it as an example of what you could potentially say and get away with, unlike me. Now, which of the thousands of accounts across social media platforms of men saying terrible things about women, is not enough for you? Just add more. They don’t get banned. Even if you pretend they do. They do get banned, any online community labeled as woman-hating gets banned pretty quickly now, as well as all that type of content.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:18 PM
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Men and women are both in danger of men because they're stronger and more capable of physical violence, if that's what you're talking about. Men are 1.5 times more likely to be victims of murder or all other kinds of violence besides sexual, because men(who are more capable of violence) are straight most of the time. Has their existence ever been threatened by women as a whole rising up and subjugating men? Nope and women aren't threatened by this too anymore. Women live in the most free and pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:15 PM
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Because it's old. It's not trendy for women to say this anymore, now the trend is stuff like this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:07 PM
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They want to love women and be loved by them, they want to have realtionships, intimacy, families, children with them and live their lives alongside women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:02 PM
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Feminist and femcel subreddits. But last statement in my examples was from this vid tho, watch the video, look at the amount of likes and then look into the comments. And it's not the first and not most popular video of this kind
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:01 PM
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Theres literally a post on here from just hours ago where a man told other men that they have no value in society. Because it's the truth. Our society only values men who are selected by women. It doesn't care about those who aren't, while also shaming and ridiculing them at at the same time. Virgin suddenly becomes an insult synonymous to "failure" and "loser" when applied to a male, because society measures male value by how much women want to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:58 PM
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Idk man I see men tearing down other men WAY more than I see women tearing down other men. Go to feminist spaces and see what they're saying about men. Or see vids made by women shaming short or ugly men with millions of likes. Women saying that undesirable men are "excess males" that deserve nothing and should die alone because they were never supposed to exist, while only strong, tall, attractive ones should get to reproduce with women. link, 170k+ likes btw, and look at the comments. It's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:53 PM
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I explained it all right after the first sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:41 PM
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Yeah I said that they do get hate lol. But they wouldn't be if all that men wanted was sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:40 PM
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No, thanks to the logical and moral strength of the argument of equality for women. Entirely subjective and manmade btw. By human nature women would be submitting to men, like in all other species with similar dimorphism (where males are much bigger, heavier, stronger and more capable). "Equality" requires an unnatural system, full of unnatural efforts and punishments in order to keep men from forcing their will on women. I'd say men themselves hate all those things and have created a society wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:35 PM
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Yes it does. And it is a more pernicious form of hate as it is directly devaluing women to justify their active mistreatment and loss of freedom and rights. This is a far worse form of hate than simply ignoring someone. It's not that deep lmao, most of the time it's just another thing that takes accountability off of women. Also it's a pretty popular belief in older generations(45y.o.+) as well and these men still have wives and love them. Would you rather be beaten up everyday and forced to giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:17 PM
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Think whatever you want to think sis. I am unable to change your mind on this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:08 PM
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It depends on what your advice is. But likely because they will just get friendzoned, or these realtionships will be fake and women won't actually want these men you're giving advice to. Me and my first(and current, and hopefully only) girlfriend fucked after 2 dates. That's what happens when you're actually desired by a woman, there was no need for all the courting, proving your worth, showing she can trust you type of bullshit. I just took initiative and she accepted it. The only reason I'm ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:02 PM
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My issue is that they choose wrong while still claiming to be moral and fair. My issue is also that the men not chosen by women aren't shown empathy and compassion, but shamed and blamed for not being enough(they also have no worth in the eyes of society if unwanted by women, hence why "virgin" becomes an insult when applied to men and becomes synonymous to "failure" and "loser")
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:28 PM
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They do want all of these tho. One of the biggest reasons misogynists even want to take away women's rights and control them is because they're entirely unwanted by women, since women in liberated progressive societies are extremely hypergamous and incapable of wanting the average man. If women wanted men as much as men want women, tons of misogynistic (and misandristic) ideas wouldn't even exist in the first place as there would be no need in them. Misandrists hate men because they think all me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:18 PM
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The only difference is that most men are interested in most women, while most women find most men ugly. Women inherently have an advantage if they're simply just taking initiative, unless they're aiming for a man who has a ton of other possibly better options. This example will sound bad and immoral, but you could potentially just SA whatever guy you want and not only get away with it in terms of law, but have him actually liking it and reciprocating✌️This often happens at clubs btw. That's how …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:06 PM
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Therapy is catered towards women primarily, and women statistically report way better outcomes of it. Funnily enough I also paid for it and went a couple years ago for 3 months, but it was useless since it didn't actually solve problems at all, but tried to make me delusional and feel better about them. Obviously I'm not saying that therapy is completely useless for men but it won't fix the issues of society that cause men's mental health to be this fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:59 PM
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Read it again idk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:49 PM
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Open any feminist space on any social media platform, lol. Not even specifically misandrist, but feminist space
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:47 PM
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So because men have identified that women have utility they “love” women lol. Women have inherent utility to men because men can use them for sex, so they want women Both men and women want sex by nature btw. And if it was just sex, men wouldn't hate easy, promiscuous women so much. Why would they hate someone who's willing to have sex with them so easily? Could it be because men are human too and just like women, they want love, intimacy, romance and loyalty from their partner? Men's utility is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:46 PM
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Ah yes, the old “Ted Bundt truly loved women. That’s why he raped and murdered so many of them: out of love!” Except that misogynists on average don't do this. Advocating for killing of women - no(misandrists do it a lot tho). Advocating for rape - maybe, depends on how you're defining it(misandrists do it a lot as well, though not for their own pleasure but as punishment). I'd say misogynists want women to be less hypergamous and be capable of wanting sex with the average man and not just 6'5 C…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:36 PM
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Hahahaha it's another "Misandry is just a response to thousands of years of misogyny!!!!!!" type of bullshit. Misandrist women were born in the easiest time for women in history, usually they're also from most progressive countries too (all thanks to men who decided that all this is necessary to be humane) where they are privileged. Misandrists hate men because they're allowed to and validated by people like you Misandrists hate the male body and are disgusted at it. They hate common male behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:12 PM
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My argument is mostly about the fact that it's a minority even among misogynists while misandrists are commonly supporting this type of stuff because of how much they actually despise men than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:01 PM
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Misogyny is punished because society generally cares about women, female lives and female feelings WAY more than it does for men. Do you know the main reason male mental health and harm of toxic masculinity, incel, redpill or whatever other content were even recognized and advertised en masse? No, not because society finally started to care about how men feel, about the fact they commit suicide 2-5 times more in every country around the world, not because men are suffering. But because all of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:58 PM
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Hahahaha oh my god. Out experiences are different and the difference is described in my post. You could go on a feminist space(dedicated to support women's rights and not hate men btw) and write "MEN ARE RAPIST MURDEROUS PIGS THEY ALL DESERVE TO DIE" and not only will it not get removed, but liked, validated and agreed with by other women. While if I did the same towards women in a space made to support men, it would get removed and I'd be hated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:49 PM
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Misogynists hate promiscuous women because they occupy a role of sexual access and freedom they fundamentally believe a man who exclusively fills because "men and women are different". Their disdain for promiscuous women occurs for reasons that supercede sex altogether They hate them because they want a loving relationship with a loyal woman, not just sex. Shocking theory. They still want female attention and love. Misandrists don't and hate everything about men. Misogynistic behavior kills rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:44 PM
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Men are more likely to be victims of all sorts of violence besides sexual (ironically because of how much more female bodies are valued by men, compared to how much male bodies are valued by women). It's not an issue with hate towards some gender but a result of the natural advantage men have in strength over women, and socialization that leads to men being more prone to use strength to achieve any goal, not necessarily to assault a woman. actively conspire against their human rights and have de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:27 PM
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I literally have a girlfriend lol. Though I am bothered by the amount of such ideas that are gaining popularity both among men and women, they lead to nothing good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:15 PM
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Someone with strong prejudices against women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:11 PM
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Well it was an exaggeration, but if you want a close example take Bonnie Blue. She is universally shamed and hated by pretty much everyone besides a small amount of men who are her 'clients'
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:10 PM
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I didn’t say all men were animals, I said that misogynists want to fuck women and also hate them. They want love and relationships with women, they want female attention, misandrists hate everything about men 1 - Promiscuous women are ‘whores’ in their eyes. No honour, and lower than human. 2 - If the promiscuous women will fuck other men but not them, of course they will hate them. 3 - Some misogynists are extremely jealous. They hate women because they fear that they might fuck or might at som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:07 PM
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Is life misandrist if men commit suicide 2-5 times more in all countries across the globe?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:01 PM
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Don't dress it up saying "oh but misconceptions" or gender roles. It's not like I'm downplaying the seriousness of the issue lol, it's still bad. But someone saying that women are dumber and less capable doesn't mean that they hate them lol. They still want female attention and love, they still enjoy being around women. The only reason they'd want women to have no rights is because women refuse to give these men attention and love voluntarily. Unlike misandrists who hate men as a whole. Also not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:00 PM
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So they literally like everything about women besides behavior of some of them. They want love, romance and realtionships with women. While misandrists hate men as a whole, and everything related to them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:49 AM
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It's not that they hate men BECAUSE they aren't attracted to them. Initially viewing them and their attention as disgusting and unwanted is one of the main reasons they don't like anything about men. And then comes the rest. If women were attracted to men as much as men are attracted to women, a huge amount of both misogynistic and misandristic thoughts, behaviors and actions wouldn't exist That said, yes, I have always maintained the opinion that misogyny is just a buzzword to condemn any and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:48 AM
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Since you’re taking the worst of misandry It's extremely common. Visit popular feminist spaces. Misogynists want to marry children Not hate and not towards all women, just pedophilic tendencies of certain people. think that female rape victims are tainted and used up because they had another man’s penis inside of them. Not hate towards women but towards rape victims They also want to strip women of their basic human rights These men still want women's love and attention. The only reason they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:39 AM
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Uhhhh misogynists absolutely do hate women. Some literally get sexual satisfaction from physically harming them. Very small amount of them actually do. Even that way, >60% of women reported having fantasies about violent/forced sex, do you think they would want it to happen to them IRL? "modern women today deserve way worse” A specific group of women, not women as a whole. These men still want women and want female attention and love, unlike misandrists who hate everything male
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:30 AM
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Lol nope, I literally described the reason I think that way, because there are clear differences. Though yeah, both misogyny and misandry do no good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:24 AM
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Violence because of rejection doesn't happen to women because they're women, it happens because of rejection(wow). Not only do women approach men way less because they aren't attracted to absolute most of them, but they also get rejected far less, and are generally less capable of violence than men. The acts of violence that happen by female hand towards men are also reported way rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:11 AM
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Misogynists absolutely hate women Would you want a long term relationship with someone you hate? Would you have children with them? Would you want to see their face as the first thing in the morning when you wake up? They’re so stunted that they can’t imagine what being respected looks like; Yeah because women respect Chads only✌️ They live in horror of having to deal with a woman who they’ll have to deal with on an even footing. Because in that case women become hypergamous and hateful towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:59 AM
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It's both tbh, lots of them live in echo chambers among other women of their kind and just circlejerk eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:51 AM
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Most victims of violent acts are men, who are victimized about 1.5 times more in murders, robberies and all others kinds of crimes except for sexual ones. It just comes from the fact that men are significantly stronger by nature and therefore more capable of violence, while standard male socialization makes them even more prone to commit it as means to achieve their goals. It's not related to hate towards any particular group of people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:48 AM
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Misogynists want to fuck women Muhhhh men only want sex uhhhh dirty animals amirite, sex ≠ love n shiet uhhhh If that was the case, misogynists wouldn't hate promiscuous women who give sex to anyone at any time. Misogynists want love, romance and relationships with women, unlike misandrists who hate them whole
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:42 AM
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Why are you looking for empathy? Men are human too (wow) and want to feel empathy, compassion, support and care from others, especially their loved ones and relatives. No way, right? Did they listen? They listened but didn't care lol Give you any solutions? "Just take it on the chin and work harder" type of advice adjusted to every individual case, sometimes with insults What was the issue? Different kinds of issues like at school, work, interpersonal issues with friends, dating, love etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:38 AM
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They wouldn't have had to be raped and held captive if they actually liked men the same way men liked women✌️ Also ideally everyone should be picky about changable traits from a moral standpoint. If women didn't praise and give away their holes to abusive promiscuous Chads who don't give a shit about them, but were attracted to normal looking men and picked them if they were good people, it would be great. But women are picky about uncontrollable superficial traits instead
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:31 AM
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Yeah they had no empathy when I talked about problems that would display me as weak/not capable enough in whatever field
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:14 AM
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Brooooo trust me dating just became fair now!!!!!! That's why Chad gets a new woman in his bed every day while half of young men are incel, trust me broooooo!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:12 AM
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Hahahahaha oh my god you can't even see the obvious because you're a woman. "Trust me broooooooo dating didn't get harder for you because I got 1000 better options, it's just new!!!!!!" Women are insanely hypergamous now, it's hilarious that women had to be FORCED to be with men of their own attractiveness level for the entirety of history😂😂😂 Women having such a wide choice(internet, dating apps etc.) while being the party with the least interest already tilts dating entirely in their favor and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:09 AM
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Well if we're talking about white/white passing Americans only then yeah, but men struggle with dating in every country. An average Indian man could move anywhere and still get nothing, because some men are undesirable everywhere. Geomaxxing barely works anymore and the competition is growing even in foreign countries. One of my shorter friends just married a woman from russia he met last year. when i tell you she is model type. she is MODEL type. I'm actually from Russia lol, and it's pretty di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:39 AM
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They say "it's not that complicated" "just relax and go with the flow, don't overthink it" "if you fail just try again with someone else" when you ask for specific advice. Because once again they're dating pretty much instinctively most of the time "Show initiative" isn't shitty advice because it works in most cases lmfao. And women don't have to fear that they're gonna be seen as creepy because their attention can never be unwanted, at least to that point for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:05 AM
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person you’re attracted to aka top1% male in gen Z, that's why their expected marriage rates are so low
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:01 AM
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Number 1 off putting trait : autism and common neurodivergent mannerisms Number 2 off putting trait : physical unattractiveness (ugly face and short height)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:59 AM
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it sounds to me like men must be so weak, pathetic, and deplorable In terms of their power in dating they are. Vast majority of men practically have none. I dunno...maybe y'all should have strength of conviction and peace to decline such arrangements and attachments. Or as they say in your hometown: choose better. Most men don't have a choice to begin with. You women can't comprehend it because even ugly and autistic women still have multiple dating options and opportunities at any time, all wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:50 AM
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Exactly. A woman will "date" 6'6 tall Brad, 10/10 face Chad, 9in dick Mike, 6 figure salary John and will always compare every partner in the future to these and think she can do better and deserves more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:43 AM
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Men pick mentally ill women Men "pick" any woman that likes them back because of how small the amount of them is in general, otherwise they would die alone. Vast majority of men will never have the ability to pick and choose between possible partners unlike women. And that's what women simply can't comprehend, because they will ALWAYS have multiple options even if ugly, autistic and asocial seek out women who aren't attracted to them You don't have to "seek out" the >99% lmao Men can blame women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:33 AM
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What has been actually solved? Lol pretty much everything women historically complained about. Obviously not 100% solved because of human factor but majorly solved especially in developed countries. People certainly don’t “care” about women enough to address femicide. Tons of organisations around the world dedicated specifically to women only, with huge funding. They spread awareness and actually help women. Nobody addresses androcide though despite the fact that men are more likely to be a vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:06 AM
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Men get sympathy all the time, especially if it’s because of some evil, cruel, greedy bitch. There will be tons of people (especially women) trying to justify her behavior and blame the man Women have an equally bitter pill to swallow — most men don’t like you, only what you provide to them, particularly sex Physical attraction to you = liking you. Women are hypergamous and hate having sex with majority of men so much that they made it into a currency that they provide in exchange for gifts or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:52 AM
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i believe men give up too quickly. Nope, men actually try hard and a lot, they give up when they see the amount of failures compared to successes. even chad-like experiences with lots of sex or fbs or whatever. you just have to know where to play. You had to unconsciously play and win in the genetic lottery for that✌️ and its got nothing to do with height and stuff It's got to do with height and stuff because physical attraction is necessary, but more so it's got to do with brain structure(neuro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:47 AM
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It's not a positive at all because it's expected and taken for granted. It does nothing but add more stress, struggle and despair to men's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:37 AM
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People on average care about women's problems and feels empathetic/compassionate towards them way more than about men. Both men and other women have this bias in favor of women that makes a woman far more likely to recieve help and support in whatever struggle she faces
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:33 AM
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male solipsism PROJECTED onto women Women don't even care about their male relatives✌️😂 If you try and ask a woman the same "what if it was your father/son/brother" she won't give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:30 AM
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Most men are desperate, especially in the younger generations where they're lonelier and dating is harder than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:13 AM
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Because they get labelled privileged self-pitying incel virgin losers who are solely guilty of everything that goes wrong in their lives✌️ Ironically society will never care about men who have actual problems and would much rather shame and ridicule them because they aren't deemed worthy enough, unlike women for whom this worth is a birthright
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:08 AM
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People are sincerely and honestly giving the generic advice to others because it's literally all they know lol. Also men usually advise women to just show initiative and that's enough in most cases lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:41 PM
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35y.o.+ celebrity men are pretty infamous for dating women in 18-23 age range, are they not? I don't really get your point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:48 AM
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Oh my god bruh you can't even state an objective fact around you people. Women in their early 20s will undeniably attract the most men. They are adult women and have been that for 3 years, stop infantilizing them just to whine "muhhhh men creepy and nasty and pdf"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:13 AM
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Even people who know you will say the exact same bs, because even if you tell them the entire story of your life they'll still only have their own experience to compare. Also strangely enough the generic vague advice given to women by men works, probably because of how much less women struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:01 AM
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I'd argue that no man who's truly below average would be called good looking by so many women, knowing how they see a true 5/10(50th percentile) man. And second part ehhhhh it depends what point of his life we're talking about. Failed documentary happened when ER was already 18, he was still rich for most of his life and teenage years
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:56 AM
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He's so cancelled that he's still universally known as the face of Superman with tons of women thirsting over him lol. Maybe he would've actually gotten cancelled and forgotten if he was uglier
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:19 PM
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The woman won't hate him, that's the point. She will find every excuse not to, because of how rare it is for a woman to actually find a man sexually attractive and desire him. Relationships that last longest are the ones where female hypergamy is satisfied 😹✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:03 PM
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lmaooooooo these are fake and made for people who want to feel more moral and pure. Fun fact: women actually feel less attraction and initiate sex significantly less the longer they are in a stable realtionship (marriage) with their husbands. And no, it's not due to childbirth, because the same phenomenon occured in childless women as well. Many women are the OPPOSITE of demisexual😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:29 PM
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Oh lmfao just peeped ur profile and you're asexual, your personal experience is useless when talking about average women/majority
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:18 PM
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second 'berry' is enough to make a woman find every excuse to say you got the first one. Atp it's the only things that really matters lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:15 PM
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Then it doesn't help to get women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:55 PM
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A preference for the average man over the average woman, or a preference for Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:43 PM
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An insanely small amount of women love men as much as the average man loves women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:40 PM
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And if you were born a woman you'd have even higher standards, because your interest in the opposite gender would be much lower by default
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:48 PM
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Hahahahaha it's hilarious how you will find every way to flip this to pander to women. Women are attracted to men JUST because they have great bone structure and facial harmony tho. Women are attracted to men JUST because they were born with the right brain structure. Even though these men have more sexual partners and are more likely to have an STD compared to the average nice man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:46 PM
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Women are gatekeepers of everything in heterosexual dating because they're the party with least interest >99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:32 PM
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Even lesbian and bi women are incapable of that because average woman is far more attractive to women than the average man(even to straight women, hence the "I see thousands of gorgeous pretty women with ugly goblin men every day" thing they say so much). They are clueless pretty much all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:27 PM
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It originates in human nature. It's not controllable. Blaming men or women for that is stupid because it's not their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:18 PM
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Ain't no way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:16 PM
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Lol women generally have no issues in finding dates because of how much more men are interested in them than vice versa. Women rarely complain about being unable to get any men to like them, and even more rarely are they told to "just be a good person". Men are desperate and date whoever gives them a chance. Nobody is wondering "How do all these toxic evil bitches even get men?" because everyone knows how desperate men are. But many are wondering "How do all those abusive narcissistic assholes e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:15 PM
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Correct. You will actually receive the best advice from someone who was in a similar situation as you in the past but achieved change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:04 PM
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Real
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:02 PM
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I'm talking about advice in general. I've asked both men and women IRL for it and the answers are always this vague generic bs, because they didn't deliberately do anything specific to get love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:02 PM
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I am not sure whether this comment is satire or not looking at your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:58 PM
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Men like nice women, but women don't like nice men. Also behavior(The controllable parts we're talking about) is very rarely as big of a turn-off as other qualities, because it's rarely extreme enough for that. Most men will have it on a pretty similar level. Looks, however, vary much more and predict relationship success more. (Eastwick PW, Finkel EJ. 2008). Same with uncontrollable parts of behavior (e.g. neurodivergency) which basically ruin dating chances for men according to multiple studie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:57 PM
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Except that obviously, if you scream at a woman and slap her drink out of her hand, she’s also NOT going to date you. Yeaaaaaaaa bro just make an extreme unrealistic example that's certainly how men asking for advice behave around women. Lmfao So there is some truth to “I want a man who isn’t a raging asshole who is comfortable abusing me.” Yesssssa just jump to another extreme to show that women just want the bare minimum and men are so bad bad evil and that's why they don't get love Women, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:42 PM
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I've started dating very recently, I was "bothered" for like 20 years of my life lol All traits you mentioned originated from his genetically "bad" brain structure. And just like I said, it's an extremely important quality. Good mental health indicators are just as important as physical health indicators for attractiveness. "NTpill" is literally a popular topic in incel communities where neurodivergent people are overrepresented btw. Because it's significantly more difficult for autistic men to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:35 PM
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And when you tell men to have some standarts, they go "but then no woman will be interested in me!". They reward the shitty women instead of calling them out and not dating them. You literally gave the reason for that, average man simply can't afford having standards if he wants to date because women find the average man ugly. "They reward shitty women" they reward any woman who even agrees to a date. They have to, because if they don't show what benefits the woman gets from them(physical attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:26 PM
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Correct✅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:24 PM
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Being kind, gentle and respectful does not matter nearly as much as the qualities I listed. Maybe if someone is already in a realtionship, then yes, being a good person for your partner is important. But that's not what gets you into a relationship in the first place. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many women telling stories about how bad their exes were(whom they knowingly chose to date btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:24 PM
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I'm not single btw Read the post again, I covered everything you said. Elliot Rodger was short(5'7) and slightly above average looking facially IRL. All of his famous videos are filmed in good lighting and from good angles, so it made him look better on video than IRL. All that + being horribly mentally ill(horribly specifically for dating, autism drastically decreases men's dating success) resulted in him not getting women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:13 PM
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If women were attracted to men as much as men are attracted to women, this wouldn't be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:29 AM
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Would be the same case with women (arguably even worse) however men have higher interest in them by default, so they tolerate more things. Men simply rate any action a woman commits as way better and judge them less harshly compared to how women judge men and their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:28 AM
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I'm not criticizing them or anybody else because it's not their fault and it's not controllable. If you looked at my comments I never blamed anyone or called them bad people, but stated a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:26 AM
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Everyone wants to be loved just like I said. But most men will never be truly loved by a woman, since women only find a small percentage of men to be physically attractive and physical attraction is required for actual love. Women who date/marry men they don't find attractive are just using them for convenience and benefits a relationship provides. Like those relationships where women only have sex with their partner as a reward for something good they did(gift, service or whatever else) rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:29 AM
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Women will always have men who would want to have an actual relationship, family etc. It's just that since women are picky, they discard most of their available options(average looking men and below) by default. Mutual sexual desire is a necessary part of any good relationship, but it's more than often one sided. Women sometimes date (functionally just use for convenience) dudes they don't even want if they compensate for it somehow, and it causes tons of realtionship problems later
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:46 PM
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We need to work for a comfortable life but you aren't forced to do it. Society doesn't hate stay at home moms for not working even if they're in poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:39 AM
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Average woman expressing low interest: current situation, she gets tons of attention Average man expressing low interest: dies alone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:37 AM
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Women are asked to do only their gender role. They have a choice to do two if they want more money. Same for men! It requires you to work and be an ATM paypig for some woman to give you sex. Happy wife happy life, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:31 AM
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a ton of men who want blowjobs but very few that want to eat pussy It's 2026 btw, the rates are roughly the same for both genders if you look up the stats. it's fucking work for women to be in relationships with men, with little to no reciprocation from men. Where is the work? Most women offer the exact same set of things as men: their body and some romantic moments. Women know their worth and they preserve their value by being extremely picky because they have the most to lose. They date and sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:28 AM
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And that's one of the main reasons for everything that follows. Also women having less satisfaction from sex on average because of human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:59 AM
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That's more of a consequence of the thing I was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:56 AM
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Being single negatively affects men's well-being and life satisfaction way more than women's. [article, ignore the subjective reasoning for it because it's a subjective opinion on objective things](http://link). Women also report less satisfaction with every type of relationship compared to men article
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:55 AM
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Both men and women crave sex, intimacy and love by nature. But men desire the average female body hilariously more than vice versa. I would go as far as to say that women experience disgust at the average male body. Interest in sex by a heterosexual person = interest in the opposite gender, by nature. Other than the body, women and men don't have any major innate differences of mind that could be wanted so much. Female and male sex drives are similar however statistically men are FAR more intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:51 AM
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Haha it's funny that once a woman actually has interest realtionships become successful. Just supports my post originally Anyways good job if you paid the whole bill
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:39 AM
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Yeah and which gender typically wants all these things more?? Cohen LL, Shotland RL. 1996. study that there was no correlation between when men wanted sex to start in a realtionship and when it actually started. With women, however, there was a strong positive correlation between the two. It's a powerless position because a woman decides whether my actions will actually lead to anything or if I was a jester running around her just to get nothing. Also most men aren't choosing picking and choosin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:33 AM
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emotionally they are poor Same as women! Overly expressing your emotions and having less control over them ≠ being good at them. domestically they don’t much Wake up babe it's 2026, the gap between women's and men's housework is small and the tendency that it's closing with fime. Everyone has to learn how to do it. sex wise they fail at giving orgasms Not their fault that nature requires a male orgasm and not a female one for reproduction, which is the natural purpose of sex. Maybe women, the so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:18 AM
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It's literally the same for men. You're looking at realtionships from a very one-sided perspective. A relationship and a family creates additional work for both participants (who could've thought?) and technically worsens their quality of life because they have to give up their time and freedom for someone else (partner or kids). Both partners usually offer themselves conforming to their traditional gender roles in a family household and that's it. And if you're talking about relationships witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:39 AM
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What is your point? That men should deliberately become more dangerous? The danger itself is irrelevant like I said. Dangerous men have more success because they commonly posess other qualities - neurotypicality, asseriveness, likelihood of risk-taking behaviors. Specifically gang members are also highly socialized and posess way more status than average, all these innate traits combined result in these men both becoming dangerous and getting women. Women like these men's genetics more than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:14 AM
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If you were born a tall handsome neurotypical charismatic guy, you could have a triple digit bodycount and still don't know how it all works, you'd believe women just like how funny and kind you are. Because most people are ignorant and oblivious on the topic, they aren't looking at it past their personal experience. I use factual evidence and studies to form my views, I've sent some of them in replies to other comments here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:38 PM
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For millions of years women had no say in who they're reproducing with. Arranged marriages, rapes, sexual slavery etc. were extremely prevalent everywhere on Earth, reproduction happened regardless of female opinion and consent The human population is only growing because there are still countries that practice the things mentioned above, and they birth the most children. But even there population growth is slowing down because the things mentioned above are becoming less prevalent and more puni…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:33 PM
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You aren't powerless and vulnerable if aren't the one actively pursuing your partner, which is HARD TO BELIEVE that you do this with men and not the other way around. If you are the one constantly deciding whether to accept or decline partners advances, you are holding power.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:23 PM
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"Women fear the danger men present" Nope, women don't fear shit. it's absolutely Irrelevant when it comes to dating, women actively date and sleep with random men at the same or higher rates than men do. Actual dangerous men(psychopaths, criminals, violent, antisocial men, gang members) aren't isolated from dating at all. In fact all of these categories have even more dating/sexual access to women than normal "safer" men(Ellis L, Walsh A. 2000.), also (Yao S, Långström N, Temrin H, Walum H. 2014…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:20 PM
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They subjectively value everything a woman gives them more* Objectively men offer women all the same that women offer to men, and even more because of the traditional gender roles(e.g. more expensive material gifts and money)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:15 PM
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How exactly is it different?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:11 PM
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But that’s only because men give away their power easily. Because men have higher interest in women than vice versa. Same thing for all the examples you put in quotes. The most ironic thing is, that it is men’s behavior which elicits this response in women. There are only two roles one can play in any interaction with a woman. You can either be the pursuer or the one who is getting pursued. And if you show up as one of these roles, the woman has no choice but to adopt the other, opposite role. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:10 PM
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Lol don't brush it off, the general tendency is very clear and explicit. Tiktok is a popular platform but the numbers are insane even by it's standards. For comparison, even entertainment content(by far the most universally liked type of content) rarely gets this much activity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:57 PM
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So you agree with my post, right? Men still show interest despite you having a net negative quality. Would you do the same for men, or would you rather just not date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:52 PM
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Men find women exhausting but since men have higher interest in women they'll accept an exhausting one. That's exactly what I'm talking about in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:50 PM
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Most of my reasoning comes from studies though (scroll the comments I replied to under this post). I'd say my opinion isn't even that controversial, it's easily observable IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:43 PM
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I've only recently got into dating and only dated(and still dating) a woman. So far I had to take the initiative and be in the aforementioned vulnerable and powerless position for pretty much everything(inviting her on dates while we still were friends, initiating most conversations, first hug, first kiss, first sex was all initiated by me). I'm still happy and satisfied with my experience, but if I was born female I probably wouldn't be, or definitely not as much. Also change "men" to "male" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:39 PM
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Absolutely Irrelevant when it comes to dating, women actively date and sleep with random men at the same or higher rates than men do. Actual dangerous men(psychopaths, criminals, violent, antisocial men, gang members) aren't isolated from dating at all. In fact all of these categories have more dating/sexual access to women than normal men(Ellis L, Walsh A. 2000.), also (Yao S, Långström N, Temrin H, Walum H. 2014.) Spot on, that's the inherent natural reason why dating will always be lopsided a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:17 PM
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Studies show that women are generally less interested in dating than men. Being single negatively affects men's well-being and life quality more than it does for women. article, ignore the unconfirmed reasoning because it's subjective opinions and virtue signaling about objective facts Women also report being less happy with all kinds of realtionships compared to men link
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:58 PM
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Men and women both want sex, intimacy and romance ideally. Men will fuck anything because they have higher interest and if they're in a situation with no better options(which they are significantly more likely to be in compared to women), they are more likely to settle for the absolute biological bare minimum - satisfaction of their sexual needs. Women have lower interest and multiple options to choose from, their available options are better and closer to the ideal(mentioned in the beginning) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:41 PM
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Try and think who will have higher interest : average woman in an average man, or average man in an average woman. I'm not talking about singular cases and outliers, they will exist in every statistic and don't change the general tendencies. Dating women isn't significantly harder in situations where they actually like you. Spot on! Now try and think which would be more common: a woman "actually liking" an objective average 50th percentile man by all parameters, or a man "actually liking" an ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:27 PM
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So far I haven't seen a single comment or a video even half as popular as the ones I've shown that would promote the idea of a woman proposing to a man, or at least be neutral towards it. Most advanced thing a tiktok algorithm could do is show these videos to people who were recently interacting with content related to proposals, marriage etc., not to a specific group of women who hate female proposals which would cause the imbalance and bias in reactions we're seeing. That's why it can be used …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:10 PM
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Also these didn't fit in the 1st picture <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:39 PM
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They are more representative than your case. These are the reactions of hundreds of thousands of real women under videos of women proposing. All of them see the act as something deeply embarassing , shameful, degrading and begging-like <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:30 PM
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It didn't originate as that but the part about women's opinion is unfortunately true. There have been viral videos on tiktok of women proposing to their men recently. Women in the comments actively humiliated and shamed the men, while also saying things like "Never getting on my knees for no man", "You'll never see me doing this shit for a MAN in my lifetime" and receiving tens of thousands of likes on such takes. They like to keep certain traditional gender roles that put them in a position of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:31 PM
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Most men's attention is unwanted and has zero value in the eyes of most women. Women want to be approached by men(who are their type), women want men(who are their type) to be more assertive, bold and confident around them. Women like it when quiet and shy men(who are their type) are just being themselves and aren't pretending to be someone else. Women's types may vary but absolute most men don't fit them in the slightest. Also the location list in the end is funny because it literally doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:43 PM
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It's uncontrollable for the most part. Our brain determines attractiveness in 300-500 milliseconds after our eyes see someone's face, halo/horn effect kicks in before they even say a word and it affects our perception of all their following actions. Would you say most of the random men you see outside are closer to being unattractive or attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:00 PM
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You can survive but you will be stripped of the most pleasant and joyous experience in everyday human life, which will have a significant negative impact on your wellbeing (Grimm C, Kemp S, Jose 2014 study on happiness and everyday activities, people reported sex to be the best eveyday activity by multiple metrics)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:45 PM
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He's right though, sex is one of the most basic and primal human needs (there's a reason it's put in the same row as food, water, sleep etc. on the famous Maslow pyramid)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:29 PM
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Yeah obviously but most people have these already. Even if someone has insenly good friends, very cute pets, very interesting hobbies it still wouldn't fill the void created by the lack of sex and romance. That's the case for all humans with a healthy sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:26 PM
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Women often say it to men who want sex and relationships but can't get them. Then they usually tell an anecdote about themselves/their female friends who are VOLUNTARILY celibate and, apparently, feel fine and live happy fulfilling lives, and say that men could do the same by getting friends, pets, hobbies or wtv else might substitute a partner they're naturally wired to crave
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:17 PM
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