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You're aware that most black people in the US don't live in the ghetto aren't you? Of course you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 12:30 PM
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Lots of men realize that women are very different from each other and that women need to be considered individually. I'd argue most. Some people make the mistake of thinking TRPs are much larger in number than they actually are. This is not a gender issue, it's an issue of maturity and emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:13 PM
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Unfortunately, for a lot of guys, being needed to provide resources to a desperate woman with no other choices available was all the game they brought to the market. This. Marriage 1.0 is not coming back. This too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:56 AM
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Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:44 PM
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I have the rare experience here in that I work in a female dominated field with female dominated leadership. I wish I could tell you as a woman that it's easier but it's not. I've been stabbed in the back by plenty of women. I've been treated unfairly and even bullied by women. So no I've never been sexually harassed but that doesn't mean I haven't had to deal with equally difficult experiences at the hands of women. Just as well, men are often the majority legislating on abortion and access to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 11:41 PM
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I could respond to this by saying I don't agree because I've had a lifetime of non sexual non romantic friendships with men but you'll just tell me I don't understand because I'm a woman and BTW all those guys just wanted to fuck me. The point is that men can't complain that they have no emotional outlet outside their SO yet do nothing to try and rectify that. If having a non sexual friendship with a woman is too much to handle, then confide in a female relative. Or go to a shrink. Something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 09:59 PM
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I'm talking about human nature not excusing behavior. It should be our goal to rise above the negative aspects of human behavior but as you know it doesn't always happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 06:52 PM
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I think PPD ties itself into knots overanalyzing these issues. Bottom line: humans are selfish and want what benefits them and want to curtail that which does not. Which leads to everyone being hypocrites. Men engage in hypocritical behaviors trying to bend the SMV/RMV in their favor: -engaging in casual sex while slut shaming -wanting low n counts while racking up their own numbers -wanting to not have to pay for dates but still date "traditional" women -complaining about hypergamy while insist…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 05:32 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:42 PM
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Plenty of men have lifelong male friends. They may not provide the same emotional support but is there some rule that says he can't have female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:12 AM
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Are you attempting to suggest the only reason older men can't get teenagers is because of consent laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:10 AM
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Or get some friends???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:03 AM
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So what is the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:59 AM
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I think I know exactly why you're not..."doing fine."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:56 AM
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"Women people" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:52 AM
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Got my vote
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:52 AM
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Fewer women are lonely because women are more likely to have an emotional support system outside of her relationships. So if she's single she still has a support network. Men are more likely to rely on their SO to be their emotional support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:38 AM
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It is not enough and women are not that generous We weren't put on earth to hand out sexual favors. Never not once have I slept with a guy because I was being "generous." Keep viewing sex as a math equation to be solved, and keep being alone. Nothing could be a bigger turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:02 PM
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Agreed. This same post pops up every couple of weeks. Poor hot 20 yo virgins just have no one else get life advice from besides TRPs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:52 PM
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Yeah, not interested in partaking in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:50 PM
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So 80% of men are incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:25 PM
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Trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:20 PM
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Never watched porn until pretty recently (possible consequence of growing up in the 80’s and being taught that porn was violent perversion for sociopathic misfits) so I don't have much to compare to. My guess would be the size fixation is largely because people can do all kinds of things with camera angles, lighting, photoshop, penis pumps, (yeah I'm told that's a thing) etc today that they couldn't do before so now everyone has to look like they have a 10 incher. I find it funny though cause is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:12 PM
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That happens a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:03 PM
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1-3 times a week with an infant is probably well above average, but then I'm just speculating here. I think there's some legitimacy to the complaint some married men have that their wives become mothers and have a hard time switching out of that role. But TBF it could be that women with young children are star fishing because they're exhausted all the time and resentful at being expected to do everything around the house and still be sexually available.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:14 PM
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Porn has come full circle. In the 70s it was shown at mainstream movie theaters and actors like Sylvester Stallone were able to cross over and become mainstream movie stars. Then the conservative backlash of the 80’s coupled with the anti porn crusade of feminists drove porn back under ground. Now it's become more mainstream again thanks to the internet. The difference is in the 70s,80’s and 90’s, kids didn't have billions and billions of hours of free porn available at their finger tips and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 08:09 PM
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True that's it's far less common for women to date down but you say that as if there are loads of men pining to date women who make 10x what they do. Dating a man who makes significantly less than you is really hard, because the men typically aren't thrilled with being supported by a woman. For women who are very dominant and men who don't mind being supported, it seems to work, e.g. Oprah, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:36 PM
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Dr Dre married a "civilian" (lol) before he was famous. So are you trying to argue that male celebrities regularly fuck regular women or that they marry regular women? Two different points. Also...maybe these guys married regular women who they happened to be in love with. Every guy doesn't think like an incel trying to up his man points status by orbiting 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:17 PM
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What does the rate of marriage have to do with being a ho? And most children of single mothers are not the result of casual sex, they're the result of relationships that didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 07:14 PM
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Mmkay dude. You're still straw manning. I answered your questions you don't want to answer mine. I backed up my claim, you won't or or can't back up yours. Whatever. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 06:54 PM
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You have to love this line of thinking: Women are shallow and hypocritical because they won't look at guys like me in the bottom 20%. Wait what? You mean women in the bottom 20% would be willing to sleep with me, date me and even LTR me? No way. They're not good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:03 PM
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But they're not having sex with these men anyway so how would it have any effect on women whatsoever? Kind of like how mgtows predicted their movement would prompt backlash from women. So far all its prompted is some good belly laughs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:53 PM
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A & D) the titles literally say things like "why women shouldn't vote." Try a little harder than that. B & C) judgybitch (and others) literally say women who work and don't chose a traditional life are bad mothers, are literally incapable of being good mothers. I posted examples above so you may want to read it again in case you missed those. E) you asked me to prove that traditionalist ideas are prevalent in the MRA. Which I did. How about this: since you are the one arguing that Men's rights a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:46 PM
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Yes and no. In the short term it will help get a lot of incels laid and perhaps build their confidence in being around women, but in the long term it won't address their underlying issues -- need for validation by women, lack of social and communications skills, etc. They're still going to need to work on those. To me, it's just a traditionalist, patriarchal and classist idea whose time has passed. Sex is used to sell literally everything else here yet selling sex itself is illegal. That good ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:28 PM
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What, no insults for me today?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:54 PM
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https://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/women-were-not-oppressed-by-not-having-the-vote/ https://www.avoiceformen.com/women/a-letter-to-traditional-women-revisited/ http://judgybitch.com/2015/05/08/dont-be-that-mom/ http://judgybitch.com/2013/10/11/its-not-self-esteem-thats-the-problem-matt-forney-its-what-women-esteem-themselves-to-be/ Here’s a wonderful article about the daughter of a feminist who has made the kitchen the focus of her life, with no regrets. Why the kitchen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:51 PM
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Accepting that chemistry isn't what will keep you together for the long haul and you will never recreate the chemistry you experienced in the beginning of your relationship. It's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow but I've found people who accepted this going in do far better in actually maintaining a level of attraction to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:30 PM
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Not everyone has the same problem so not everyone is helped by the same method. To use your doctor analogy... That why doctors go to school for 8 years, train for at least another 3-4 years, get endless certifications that they are required to keep current as long as they continue practicing and are required to stay up to date in not only their field of medicine but other related fields, and must know who to consult or refer a patient to when they don't know the answer. In other words they're we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:15 PM
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Look it up in the dictionary and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:40 AM
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most guys are not doing this which is frustrating to women I didn't know you were so deeply concerned about women's sexual satisfaction. In your fantasy world, women are bullied by feminists into denying their desire for rough sex. IRL women who want rough sex with their partners just communicate it and they proceed to have rough sex. End of story. It's not the epic tragedy of oppression you're making it out to be. BTW I'm like a lot of women (but not all) in that sometimes I enjoy it rough, som…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:06 AM
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What feminists say rough sex is degrading? And why are you so consumed with being angry at feminists for what you think is an objection to rough sex? If you believe women like rough sex and you've found this to be true with the women you've been with, why give any fuqs what "feminists" think?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:52 AM
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I think you mean the MRA is right wing, eg conservative, which means wanting to preserve traditional values. They are not "leftist" (progressive, want to change old values) Leftist is a not a label for "any old radical."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:41 AM
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What the fuck are you rambling about? Words are agreed upon concepts to describe a thing present in our environment. People can disagree on what specifically constitutes misogyny but "hatred of women" is a thing, and you wanting to earn suck up cool girl points with the alt right neckbeards here doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:38 AM
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Then maybe TRPs ought to stop constantly complaining about misandry. Since they shouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:27 AM
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a bullshit concept Webster's dictionary disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:25 AM
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Aww!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 12:07 AM
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I'm not saying they never date girls who weren't jocks. I'm just saying IME the preference of male jocks seems to be women who are strong physically, fit, confident, outgoing, assertive, etc. Girls who were quiet and mousy didn't seem to stick around too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:51 PM
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Come back to me when you've been a woman for a couple of days. Then I'll give a shit what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:07 PM
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No they're not!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:05 PM
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OK really? Do I need to recount for you the 1000s of RP posts and comments about submissive women being the only ones worthy of LTR and marriage? MRP is about being dominant so your woman submits to you? I guess it's now OK to literally say whatever the fuck you want to win an argument regardless of how blatantly untrue it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:55 PM
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She had a successful run for a while. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:50 PM
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Theres two ladders in male attractiveness, how it makes their dick feel and how it makes other men's dicks feel in aggregate. The latter is proportionately more imprortant the more insecure they are. You're so right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:22 AM
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The common traits of people in abusive situations are low self-esteem and co-dependence. The latter is actually more significant, i.e.. "I can save him/her."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:51 AM
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High value men, or men TRPs would call alpha, don't want feminine (as defined as weak and submissive) women. I base this on my life experience of seeing male jocks date female jocks. Many of these women are attractive and look as feminine as any woman when they aren't training or competing, but they are generally strong, assertive and confident, not weak and submissive. Inb4 angry TRP parade of "Liar, Liar!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:42 AM
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Was it the same person trying to claim that Saudi Arabia (the largest source of suicide bombers) "leads the world in happiness?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:25 AM
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I know you'll say these aren't "feminist" societies but here are few societies successfully led by women: UK/Margaret thatcher Israel/Golda Meir India/Indira Ghandi Ireland/Mary McAleese Germany/Angela Merkel What's your definition of a "feminist society?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:28 PM
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Cuz evil feminist media lie to you!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:26 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that most women are not porn stars with 400 past partners. To even use that as an example of anything relevant to the conservation is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:21 PM
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I can't get worked up over poorly written click bait with no purpose other than driving people to his website. I can't get worked up over some troll begging for change ("support my writing" -- only if you use the money on a writing coach, brah) when there are actual real life misogynists being given positions of power as we speak. It's fun to pick on RPers but in reality we have bigger issues to focus on at the moment. Just MO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:55 AM
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You're such a bad ass
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:48 AM
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Fair enough. And I can't respect a guy that needs constant sexual validation to feel good about himself. Guess we both SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:39 AM
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"you go gurrrrlll!" Did you just arrive in a time machine from 1990?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:34 AM
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Wait wasn't your point that women use more tax funded health care but men have to pay for it? (Cause you know women don't have jobs and pay taxes). Whether or not universal health care is a good thing is a totally different discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:31 AM
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But what you're talking about is a disparity in utilization driven by the consumer. Men don't go to the doctor. That's their choice. You all get free physicals too. Now you want to blame women for what men won't do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:59 AM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:43 AM
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If you think a porn star is representative of the average woman you need to get out more. Cdc: average lifetime partners for men, 7. For women, 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:42 AM
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It is not the rest of society's job to subsidize your choice to have a family I could argue the same thing about taxpayer funded education. Or student loans. Or roads I never drive on. Or bank bailouts. the man in those circumstances will almost certainly purchase an insurance policy for himself and/or his family Men have higher uninsurance rates. but I don't see any good reason why my insurance bill as a single male should be any higher over it. Your insurance is no higher than a single female.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:35 AM
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Free maternity care for 9 months is a lot cheaper than the cost of care for a sick or disabled child whose mother didn't get proper prenatal care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:26 AM
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Btw how is this RP? If it were RP I would have said: "Spin plates because women are only good for sex. Treat her like a child. She's incapable of love and you're just her post Chad consolation prize. Don't get married ever because it's means you're beta which is unacceptable. she won't want to fuck you, will cheat (because women always cheat) and will divorce rape you."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:18 AM
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In the US maternity leave is rarely taxpayer funded. I think you know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:51 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:45 AM
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There's literally no point in debating him. He's like a brimstone preacher and that shit is his sermon. There are no happy women on the planet according to him and he will never concede otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:44 AM
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lol @ right wing TRPs who preach pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, laissez faire, and government shouldn't even exist now want to "regulate" anything that doesn't work in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 01:39 AM
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Neither link your posted works but for clarity it's not accurate to say that c sections are making babies bigger. C sections are more commonly chosen because babies are bigger. Difference. That said, modern women are not choosing men based on how their offspring might feel coming out of the womb. There's actually not a strong correlation between height of parents and size of the baby at birth. This can be seen by looking at birth weight of siblings, which can vary from birth to birth. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 12:37 AM
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Mmkay. Could also mean she's the home wrecker type. IJS
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 12:13 AM
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somewhat bitchy to other women. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 12:01 AM
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Are prostitutes like the social workers in your gentrification analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:50 PM
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No, it's not leave it to the captain. (We don't have that dynamic). Leave somethings to my husband as the person who understands him in ways I can't as a woman. If we had a daughter my husband would feel the same way. And if I suddenly became a single mom, my son would still have plenty of excellent male role models, because I'm pretty blessed to have a lot of great men in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:19 PM
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I don't at all believe lesbians or single moms can't raise boys to be honorable men. Every parent benefits from a support network of adults who are good role models. I'm conscious of this even around my friends children -- in their eyes I'm a adult whose behaviors communicate what adults should do. Raising a boy as a woman just means you have to make a conscious effort to communicate to him the kind of man you encourage him to be. Same true of a man raising a girl. At the end of the day the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:06 PM
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There's a vast universe between not being sexually repressed and being your child's pimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 10:38 PM
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FWIW I'd tell my daughter the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 10:19 PM
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Hell just froze over. 😆 See I'm not so bad am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 10:17 PM
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pick an excellent man to be his father. That's who has to teach him to be a man. Number 1. Without this everything else falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:32 PM
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Forgot sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 05:29 PM
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Oh social skills are a given. But they can also be learned. But I guess you bring up one thing I would add: play the cards youre dealt. If you're not attractive, develop your personality and other attributes that will help you achieve success. In life everyone negotiates their place in the social hierarchy by playing up their strengths and compensating for what they're missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:34 PM
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Leave most of it to his dad. But I want him to know that his life goals are first and foremost and he has to keep his focus on that. Don't get derailed even if you think you're in love and she's worth sacrificing everything for. Use protection all time. Treat women like human beings. Don't put them on a pedestal. Don't sacrifice your own needs and boundaries. Learn how to sniff out the ones who are trouble (I guess this is where I come in) and avoid. Don't allow women (or anyone) to determine yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:43 PM
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Right. I agree with you that music reflects culture but most music in the US today is mass produced by people who have nothing to do with the culture, whether it's rap, country, whatever. I don't know how that figures into the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:34 AM
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You're describing what men with weak frame do, aka lower betas, people with low social skills who don't have many friends cause of their lack of social skills. Wasn't that what I just said? And you're describing weak women who attach themselves to men to fill a self esteem void.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:32 AM
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You also can't overlook that a main driver of hyper-masculinity is the black community is the psychological push back against emasculation that results from poverty, classism and, historically, racism. I see it this way. what defines a man in modern day American society US? You make a lot of money, and you fuck/date/marry hot women. Physical prowess and extreme aggression isn't as important as it used to be nor is proving your manhood by fathering a bunch of kids, but men who can't easily do the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:25 AM
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But you're aware that the majority of rap music is produced and purchased by white people, right? I'm trying to get my head around how this fits into your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:05 AM
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Have to lol at some of the pseudo analysis here. Black men are more likely to be RP for one reason: they can be. LC black men have no shortage of LC black women looking for sperm donors with no more to offer (since many of them don't think they need a man to raise kids anyway). UMC black men, especially without baggage, are like diamonds on sale for $5, UMC black women will kill to get their hands on one (I'm sure you're aware of the education gap, 1 marriageable BM for every 10 BW, all that). S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:01 AM
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I've seen the exact opposite happen, where women I know (and myself a couple times) have dated men who don't have a lot of friends or are terrible at maintaining friendships when they're in a relationship and they all of sudden are into whatever we're into (we meaning the whole co-ed social circle, cause I imagine a guy like you thinks we feemalez only shop, gossip and watch the bachelorette).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:28 AM
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And I don't think I need to point out its impossible to have a healthy relationship with such a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 02:36 AM
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Frankly RP as a concept annoys me less than the emotionally stunted man-children who frequent this sub and TRP who are always looking to fight, trying to argue concepts they don't understand and trolling with sexist and racist outbursts. These days they seem to be overrepresented among the ones defending RP, and that doesn't help the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:08 PM
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Should I share with you the list of right wing subs and websites I've been banned from, most immediately after a single non-trolling comment? Echo chambers exist across the political spectrum and to claim otherwise is fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:01 PM
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You're seriously getting worked up about women saying they're attracted to fictional characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:46 PM
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they look for excuses to quit work Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 12:46 PM
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Then if men not women decide which men are alpha and which are beta in the SMP/RMP, then literally everything RP teaches just became null and void. This is just more proof of my theory that TRPs are less angry about and motivated by their lack of success with women and far more by their lack of status among other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:59 PM
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PPD is one of the few subs that doesn't operate as an echo chamber. Ideologically driven subs and blogs on the left and right both do it. To believe this is unique to askfeminists or liberals is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:53 PM
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How is TRP conservative when they advocate for unlimited casual sex and rejection of marriage? OP is just nursing his butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:40 PM
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You realize how paternalistic that sounds right? Immature and unstable women need men to make them act right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:49 PM
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What every TRP here considers divorce rape. The definition is common enough to all of us at this point. I do know 2 guys who had rather large and LT alimony payments but they were both in the military and I believe if you're active duty in some branches and divorce after being married for a certain amount of time you're required to pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:29 PM
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CritIcizing your comments and opinions is not personal attacks and it is the spirit of debate. Otherwise you just want an echo chamber and it's disingenuous to pretend you want to actually debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:33 PM
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Give me one example where I've been a sexist hypocrite. In fact give me one example of where I've ever said AMALT in any scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:25 PM
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Tough love. Done in the spirit of debate. When you're being a sexist hypocrite I'm gonna call you on it. But report me if you don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:10 PM
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Then I'm qualified to say what women are like because I observe them. Right? I say you're unqualified to comment on what women do in sexual/LT relationships because you don't date them. And I say you're unqualified to comment on how many high beta men there are because you don't experience what men are like in relationships because you don't date them. Dude, You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:07 PM
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Come on. You know you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:00 PM
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Yet studies show men and women cheat at about the same rates or that women cheat slightly less. which is why the men you want to fuck you, send you on your way in an uber, and go back to the video games or televised sports. Revenge porn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:59 PM
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I'm in my 40s as are most people in my circle (late 30s to late 40s), lots of high betas, lots of 10+ year marriages. Among the divorces, not one met the criteria of divorce rape and those that wanted to remarry generally married someone of equal SMV. This is far from unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:56 PM
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Oh, you just can't seem to resist personal attacks on me. You make it way too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:50 PM
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--no there are not "plenty" of men with "healthy mixes of alpha and beta". There are some. There are not "plenty". How exactly do you know that? You don't date men. You tell me regularly that I am not qualified to comment on what women are like because I don't date them. You are not qualified to say what men are like because you don't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:49 PM
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Ok I fully admit my comment was rude and I apologize but you still seem to have such bitterness toward women and if it's working for you I just wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:43 PM
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Cuz something something branch swinging, don't trust the bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:27 PM
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Then how come it's not working for you? Sorry to be so blunt every time you just have to chime in with your 'i know what women want cuz RP' chest beating but yet you can't seem to apply it to your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:26 PM
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Thank you. Appreciate the response. Sounds like she was a little threatened by you getting in shape and looking better. Maybe she thought you were doing it for another woman (which I know is "dread" according to TRP). All of this sounds like pretty healthy boundary setting to me though I agree with u/cuittler she does sound a little Immature. I think in reality most relationship/dating advice, which most RPers would call blue pill, is like any other industry-- their first goal is to make money. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:20 PM
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We also don't see them because they don't spend all day on Reddit complaining about hypergamy and 80/20 and sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 03:19 PM
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As much as TRPs are always complaining about being lied to by society as the reason they never figured out how to do well with women, I would have expected more concrete answers to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 02:24 PM
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What exactly did you do that worked and what were you doing before that didn't work? I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 01:17 PM
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The belief is that women are always looking to "branch swing" to a better mate, should the opportunity arise. it's the belief of extremely insecure men who lack the skills/traits to make a relationship successful and thus need a scapegoat ("women's true nature") that explains away any blame on their part (or question of their own attractiveness/value) Analogous to the woman who thinks "all men cheat" and in every relationship she's in she devotes all of her energy to catching him in the act (rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 02:18 AM
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EEO prohibits workplace discrimination against individuals. It doesn't impose mandatory quotas on private companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 11:07 PM
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Your employment roster does not perfectly represent the racial/gender population of the United States, therefore you will be punished by the state?" How exactly does the state punish the private sector for lack of diversity? Are they fined for not meeting quotas? Is there some other punitive measure?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 10:16 PM
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Yes I know what it means. I'm calling bullshit on the alt righters who beileve they're any less guilty of tribalism and identity politics. Because they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:55 PM
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Attacks instead of answering question. Thanks for illustrating my point. And I don't even know what an SJW is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:03 PM
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There is no God I can troll too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:27 PM
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A Reddit thread is proof of the fact that there are no intellectual women...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:23 PM
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What a big steaming pile of circle jerking 💩
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:22 PM
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they will only play identity politics reflexively One visit to the altright sub proves that to be false. They're A-okay with and arguably prefer race neutral class politics, aka championing the interests of the working man What is the altright's version of race neutral politics? Please share.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:16 PM
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I thought RP didn't give advice to women, RP gives advice to men that is beneficial to men? And RP's advice to men is to avoid career women because they believe they make lousy wives, cheat, compete with you, and are generally feminist harpies who need to stfu and get back in the kitchen. OP's point still stands. You're hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:13 PM
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"The white middle class is hurting and our hurt is more important because minorities/Muslims/immigrants/gays deserve their problems" is the very definition of identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:33 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3qelhp/stay_away_from_independent_career_women/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2ls5vq/successful_business_woman_doesnt_feel_like_a/ https://www.heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/01/21/the-great-men-on-careerist-gogrrls/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2v5uwn/article_states_intelligent_women_are_single/ This is just from the first page of results of a simple google search. Everyone here knows it's a common meme in RP to shit on ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:09 PM
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If it's illegal to be a prostitute it needs to be illegal to visit one too. I'd rather them decriminalize the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 01:05 AM
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Why does the definition of hypergamy change so often depending on the argument being made?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 01:00 AM
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Women also live longer. Which is the biggest reason in the US. Do I need to do my tax spending who-gets-what lesson again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 12:58 AM
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Well you know I met my husband when he asked my parents for permission to ride his horse and buggy over to my house in the evenings to court me under their supervision until such time as they made my dowry available. So I have no idea what you kids today do. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:06 PM
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Is that a generational thing? Millennials have never heard of the 3 date rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:37 AM
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I'm going to play devils advocate here. You make some good points about knowing your worth and sticking to your principles. If it makes you uncomfortable to have sex before 10 dates then by all means follow your principles. But know that by doing that you've greatly narrowed your pool of eligible men and not necessarily in the way you want. The supply of women with less strict criteria is just too high to believe this is a foolproof way of weeding out low value men and pump and dumpers. In fact,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:16 AM
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That's what I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:43 AM
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Just out of curiosity how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:34 AM
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How responsible of you Yet single moms are subhuman scum right? I've really gotta stop visiting this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:42 AM
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50% of marriages end in divorce. Setting aside the fact that statistic is highly contested, it has not a thing to do with your erroneous belief that only 20% of men get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:59 AM
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There's a study the government should fund with my tax dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:55 AM
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If only the top 20% of men have wives, how is it possible that over half of American men are married? And that's all "men" over 15, if you raise the age to when most men are settling down, like 30, that number goes up. It's statistically impossible for what you believe to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:41 AM
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Do you think it happens more or less than men dumping their gf/wives for younger more attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:26 AM
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Married women cheating is hypergamy? You guys really don't know what the word means do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:20 AM
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What do you mean you've personally experienced it? You've personally experienced women choosing the best partners they can get? That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:18 AM
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Impressive circle jerking. Bravo 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:04 AM
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"On average a woman's standard of living goes down 27 percent after a divorce while a man gets a 10 percent bump." https://www.dailyworth.com/posts/4207-how-women-get-screwed-in-divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:00 AM
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That would only be hypergamy if the divorced women were trading up and ending up with richer men. Statistically that's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 02:18 AM
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Found this part interesting: Saint-Paul (2008) argued that, based on mathematical models, human female hypergamy occurs because women have greater lost mating opportunity costs from monogamous mating (given their slower reproductive rate and limited window of fertility), and thus must be compensated for this cost of marriage. (Emphasis mine)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 02:11 AM
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Well maybe that's part of it. The social faux pas is one that gets talked about here a lot which is overestimating your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 10:02 PM
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I mean is this a criticism leveled at MRAs? Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:41 PM
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To me it's not a blanket statement about every old-young couple. I throw no shade at any man/woman who found a partner who happens to be younger. It's the ones who sexually and emotionally fetishize young men/women that I think get the most heat. Hey people can do what they want but so can I and I can LMAO at the creepy dude hanging out in the 18+ club and the cougar with 8 gallons of make up wearing clothes from forever 21 trying to pick up frat boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:40 PM
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First none of this research says men never cry, it says women cry more than men. I doubt anyone here was unaware of that. And I doubt anyone has a problem with a man crying because his dog died or he lost a parent or is dealing with some difficult situation. Anyone who does is kind of a heartless prick. Second, women saying they want a man who isn't afraid to cry -- isn't it healthy to cry once and a while? So again we're back to emotional maturity and appropriate displays of emotion. Crying as …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:33 PM
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How has the MRA influenced policy to give fathers more rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:39 PM
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Name one men's rights issue where the MRA has been successful in influencing policy to create better conditions for men. Just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:25 PM
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Really? So then I guess all of the lifetime movies about older men screwing and cheating with younger women are proof that society condones that as well. since we're apparently going there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:05 PM
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Yet it is celebrated in the mainstream press with television shows, talk shows, etc. Such as? I don't watch much TV esp talk shows so you're going to need to be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 06:52 PM
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As I said yesterday when the exact same question was asked: cougars are generally seen as pretty gross and sad, aren't they? I've been at social gatherings of all kinds and seen cougars doing their thing and most adults, male and female, regarded them in this way. No different than the older guy who fetishizes young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 06:50 PM
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I'm asking you to clarify your own statement that you, not me, made. I will not accuse you of mansplaining. I'm simply asking you to clarify, as others have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 06:43 PM
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And here comes the customary life is Pareto post. Seriously I could script this stuff by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:23 PM
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I don't even see the point in threads like this. Circle jerk therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 05:16 PM
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Do you honestly believe there aren't men who are getting away with sexual abuse of minors? I asked for specific proof to back up your claim that female teachers get away with sleeping with male students while male teachers do not get away with sleeping with female students, which you did not provide. I understand that women generally get lighter sentences than men according to the HuffPost article you linked, but there are no specifics on this particular point. If my 14 year old son was raped by…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:19 PM
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How much does a normal woman cry? How does a normal woman show weakness and vulnerability? Your version of normal probably isn't the same as everyone else's. If your view is that the average woman is an emotional basketcase, you're being disingenuous because no one would choose a person who isn't emotionally mature over one who is, male or female, all things being equal. So essentially what you want is for women to say, no I don't want a man who is an emotional wreck, so you can say, see!gotcha …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:55 PM
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Only there are no attractive men hitting on her. Edit: only if there are no attractive men hitting on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:45 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:36 PM
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So you're saying there's evidence that accused male teachers get arrested more and get longer sentences than accused female teachers? Cause just posting instances that support your view doesn't prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:36 PM
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Statutory rape laws aren't gender specific as far as I'm aware. And I'm not really sure of your argument here. Are you angry about a perceived double standard or are you angry that adult men can't sleep with teenagers cuz feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:19 PM
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Female teacher is still getting arrested and going to jail. Society doesn't condone it and an episode of South Park doesn't refute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:15 PM
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But I think OP was talking about IRL so a defense of "there's nothing wrong with men being attracted to younger fertile women" isn't actually addressing his point. No one said there is, just that its abnormal to bring it up in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:12 PM
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False dichotomy. Teen boys and teachers are a fantasy among the teen boys, it's not like rational adults are encouraging it while calling teenage girls and teachers pedophilia. And it's doubtful teen girls who are sleeping with their teachers consider it pedophilia themselves. Yeah, everything isn't the fault of feminists. No offense (honestly) but sometimes the way you guys talk about feminists makes you sound like little boys mad at mommy for spoiling all your fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:06 PM
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There's a saying: the difference between men and women is when women date someone younger, we're aware we look ridiculous. It comes down to this: most of us are well aware that relationships with a huge age gap don't usually work out and the reasons why. There are people who will give it a shot because they believe they can transcend those differences. Sometimes it works out, most of the time it doesn't. Then there are people who fetishize younger women/men. Cougars? Aren't they generally seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:45 PM
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Um...because they're there to find out how to improve their chances with women....?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 09:28 PM
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OK but telling a woman you don't know well essentially "I want to put a baby in you" is creepy. Everything we think or feel doesn't need to be said aloud. This is what he means. I once knew a guy (roommate of a guy I was dating) who used to announce to everyone in the room that not only was he "about to go take a shit" but what kind of shit he thought was in the works. Til this day he still doesn't understand why everyone thought he was a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 09:16 PM
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How exactly does a woman being a virgin before you date or marry her guarantee paternity? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 01:08 PM
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You make less and less sense with every post
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:20 PM
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If women were angry with men and engaged in male bashing because men aren't like the characters in rom coms, you'd probably laugh at that right? I'm guess I'm just asking where someone gets the idea that other people are actors in some story of their lives they've made up in their heads. TV and movies aren't real and real life humans can't be blamed for not living up to fake characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:13 AM
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Actually I think condoms used and stored properly have a 98% success rate in preventing pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:04 AM
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Could this explain the head-scratching insistence by TRPs that society cruelly lied to them about what women want -- they were learning life lessons from Dawson's creek?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:20 AM
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Freud would be so proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:10 AM
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Women are not in denial, they are attracted to men in between the two shit choices always presented by TRP as the only valid ones. Gold. BOOM
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:09 AM
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some fathers don't quite figure out what, besides sex, makes their daughters different than their wives. Eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:01 AM
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Fair enough. And thanks for responding to the question instead of giving me 'but women/blues suck too' rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:13 AM
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Avoid shitty people. Blame individuals for their actions not the groups they belong to. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:25 AM
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Did. See a lot of posts and comments criticizing specific posts and comments on other subs. Don't see any comments that look like misandry. Did I miss something? Misandry - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e., the male sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:09 AM
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Yeah I know how to find TBP subreddit. I'm asking for specific examples of misandry you've seen on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:30 AM
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Can this be summed up another way? There are those who learn and apply RP to their lives, and then there are those who just want the in-group identification without the work. Like Christians who do nothing the Bible tells them to do who build their identity as Christians around their in-group virtue signaling and demonizing of non-believers. These guys love the idea of getting fit, becoming socially adept, being an active interesting person, de-pedestalizing women, being respected and their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:23 AM
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You joke but those regular posters (and you know who they are) saying that society should restrict women's economic and sexual freedom to make it easier for guys like them to get sex -- isn't that sex redistribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:22 AM
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misandry Can you share some TBP posts or comments that reference AMALT, men are children, men universally are devious manipulators, men have zero value beyond their dicks/wallets/youth, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:13 AM
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Can you prove him wrong? Can you offer proof that RP works rather than just saying "you don't know what you're taking about, troll." Data, examples, personal anecdotes, something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:49 AM
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Yes i would totally sign on with an ideology that forbid me to talk about it with anyone besides anonymous strangers online using fake user names. Totes not a cult. What I'm actually taking about since you didn't bother to read the exchange is this: when you're a negative person with a chip on your shoulder, you give off that negative vibe all the time. People don't respond positively to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:01 AM
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Couldn't have anything to do with a lifetime of hearing that promiscuous male = stud (positive), promiscuous female = slut (negative). Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:53 AM
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If you were born in 1970 you are probably aware that porn was shown in mainstream movie theaters in the late 70s. You're probably aware that hippies in the 60s regularly engaged in orgies with strangers. Remember bathhouses? All of that sounds a lot more "immoral" than watching dumbass Snooki and her trashy friends. You won't get any argument out of me that reality TV is generally dogshit and we need more positive stuff in media today. But to claim that your definition of sexual immorality is un…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:42 AM
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Ever notice how everyone of your claims is "every woman you know?" I'm really starting to question how many women you actually know. Or more importantly, why the fuck do you surround yourself with so many women who suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:22 AM
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Does it ever occur to you guys that its your painfully brooding pessimistic if not sadistic misanthropy that makes women take a pass? Not feminism, hypergamy, anti-masculinity, Chads or cock carousels. News flash: no one wants to hang out with a downer. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:15 AM
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You want to encourage men to engage in revenge porn so that more women will commit suicide after a break up and keep on par with men killing themselves. There's a fucked up definition of equality. "More suicides for all!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:33 PM
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But yet if the topic were women taking all a mans money in a divorce for breaking her heart you'd be carrying on about hypergamous bitches and feminazi family courts trying to destroy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:18 PM
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Another Lewis Cross outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:14 PM
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You're aware that 80% of US military jobs today are non-combat right? You paint a picture of a glorified version of a fantasy past that never really existed, was in reality harsher and more relentless than anything you can ever conceive and isn't coming back. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:35 PM
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Replied in the wrong place, sorry. Reposting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:35 PM
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You're aware that 80% of US military jobs today are non combat right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:19 PM
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I'm blaming spell check
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:14 AM
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Guess what was on my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:51 AM
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Technology and societal progress LOL as if technological, medical, political and economic advances weren't being achieved by guys who aren't Chad. You know what your high school QB is likely doing right these days? Emptying your garbage. Success in business requires ability to gain trust and build relationships. Success in medicine and technology require patience and intelligence. Success in politics requires cleverness and finesse. None of these require 6 inch pecs and a quick fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:51 AM
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It's not possible for all men to be leaders(alphas). Some must follow, and usually more men follow than lead. Something pretty fundamental that RP seems to skip over all the time. But, we could have a society that promoted the creation of alphas, instead of one that promoted the creation of betas. But this would be a masculine centric society based on achievement, merit, competition and not one based on feelings and protecting the weak(females and betas). We could also be transported back in tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:50 PM
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Are you just a glutton for punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:46 PM
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Why is public acceptance at an all time high? What is the cause? Edit: and btw I'm almost as old as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:39 PM
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I think it was boomers who came up with free love in the 60s. And past generations had their own versions, the roaring 20s, beatniks in the 30s, greasers in the 50s, disco crowd in the 70s, they all had their own versions of challenging the sexual and cultural norms of their times. It's new to you but it ain't new.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:02 PM
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In my day yes girls/women did more slut shaming than boys/men. But I'm old af. So I can't comment on what young people today do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:53 PM
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I thought it was swallow the pill not see the light.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:51 PM
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Men have devised ways to determine whether women are being dishonest; and then to deal with that dishonesty in a way that benefits men. Well gee, i guess every MGTOW and MRP bitching about being cheated on and divorced raped got what was coming to them then. They should have known.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:49 PM
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The extremes are outliers. We don't tend to land in them by any stretch of the imagination. They are only viewed as the norm around here because PPD posters are either obsessed with arguing over the outliers (which don't me wrong can be fun) or they have so little life experience they actually believe shit like all girls who went to college have N counts of over 100 and only 20% of men have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:45 PM
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And I'm not trying to fuck women so their dishonesty is not my problem, it's men's/yours. Gee that's a useful philosophy isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:38 PM
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Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:26 PM
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Does your aversion to casual sex apply to men too or just women? Everyone else in the universe is also entitled to their preference too, even if it doesn't align with yours. Calling people amoral because they don't share your views while defending your entitlement to your preferences kinda makes you look like a hypocrite. IJS
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:25 PM
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F2F?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:19 PM
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I thought women and BPers were always emotional? Make up your minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:17 PM
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Been through that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:50 PM
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Your exact words were: So tell me: why the hell should I simply "accept" a woman's past when I took steps to ensure my path went a different route? That sounds like a personal judgement based on how it affects you and your preference far more than it does any concern for your kids or society. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:49 PM
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The stat sourced to national opinion research center is this one: The percentage of wives having affairs rose almost 40 percent during the last two decades to 14.7 percent in 2010, while the number of men admitting to extramarital affairs held constant at 21 percent, according to the latest data I remember when that study came out and I don't recall of the coverage mentioning anything about a correlation between sexual partners and divorce found in his study. There are a whole bunch of charts, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:43 PM
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Oh you mean like you're living together and when you break up the other person takes a bunch of stuff when they move out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:30 PM
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How about men who don't want sluts don't date sluts, and women who want to have lots of sex with lots of different people and the men who don't care, you do you too. We good now? We can move on to something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:28 PM
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No, it's indicative of the fact that he hates women. So women are always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:16 PM
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Does anyone who constantly quotes this stat have any actual legit research to back it up besides a clit bait trash site like hooking up smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:13 PM
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I don't get this. If you're in a happy relationship you're not looking for anything, so who's a slut and who isn't should be irrelevant to you. Then it just becomes pious judgment of strangers so you can feel better about yourself. No one is saying you need to accept anything you don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:06 PM
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what is a micro-divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:01 PM
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I'm not talking about fat lazy video game dorks who think the world is unjust because they can't fuck supermodels. I'm talking about real problems: homelessness, joblessness, chronic illness, suicide, incarceration, men lead by a lot in all these things. And a big part of that does come down to the way society treats men as disposable and expendable. But this isn't what so called manospherians want to talk about. They want to talk about sluts, N-counts, Chads, false rape accusations (despite zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:33 PM
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It's how you do it. Chris Rock said it best That said, women vary. Some have no use at for dirty talk. For me its OK in moderation but even that depends on the guy and the situation. IIRC
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:00 AM
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it's up to each individual guy to decide if he wants to get involved with a woman who has had more than 3-4 partners by the time she's 22. If you guys really believed this you wouldn't spend exorbitant amounts of time justifying it and trying to convince everyone else they should agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:43 PM
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Haha yeah OK. What is it with TRPs? Many people don't like your ideas or the ways you express as them. Get over it. We are allowed to disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:33 AM
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Try staying on topic instead of trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 11:21 PM
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Again idealism not reality. It's also clear you've never been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:29 PM
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In the US public primary and secondary schools are local schools funded entirely by tax dollars for kids to attend free. Private schools are tuition based. Some kids get scholarship money or work study (funded by the school or philanthropists not taxes) but mostly their families pay the tuition which depending on how exclusive the school is can exceed the cost of college tuition. Private schools in the US are not tax funded.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:27 PM
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Pell grants are for needy students to attend college. Pell grants are not for single moms. The fact that some single moms are awarded pell grants to attend college does not equal "single moms get shit for free." Most students awarded Pell grants are not single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 09:33 PM
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Can we just stop comparing ourselves to animals that lack our brain power?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 08:23 PM
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Good summary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:58 PM
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There's nothing illegal about using the rest of the money for books and living expenses as long as you stay enrolled in college. Tuition is only one of the costs involved in going to college. And I'm still not seeing how one is evil welfare and the other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 06:49 PM
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True but you have to be enrolled in school to get it. The idea behind students grants is that a person gets a degree, gets a job and contributes taxable and disposable income to the economy. Same concept behind tax payer funded primary and secondary schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 06:38 PM
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So is any public education then. Guess you only went to private school?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 06:21 PM
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Pell grants are for college tuition...????
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:17 PM
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I could be wrong, maybe it's more common than I think. Maybe there is a whole culture of hot women using Instagram to lure thirsty men willing to support them while they play all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:09 PM
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A girl I knew from college, when she found me on FB 10 years later I found out she had 2 kids by 2 different guys, had never been married but was a SAHM. I hadn't kept in touch with her to know the circumstances of her life but I assume it was a combination of child support from the two dads and possibly support from her parents. Plus i think there may have been a few rich BF over the years (judging by the pictures she's posted). She still lists her self as a FT mommy and posts endless pictures …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:02 PM
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Yes quite a few. I'll tell you more if you tell me why you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 10:37 AM
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Of course you are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 09:46 AM
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Srs question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 09:45 AM
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what "correlation does not imply causation" means
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:57 AM
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We've had separate accounts for most of our marriage. After bills and savings are taken care of, the rest is yours to do what you want with. And we never fight about money. I realize you're speaking about one income HH and when I was a SAHM I didn't make major purchases without consulting my husband. It's just courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:31 AM
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Fair enough but every time and I mean every fucking time I've entered a conversation about this topic in a male dominated virtual space and said I understand well that men's problems get far less attention than women's and what can I do as a woman to help address men's problems, I get my ass handed to me. Told to fuck off because as a woman I can't have empathy for men, men don't need my empathy anyway and men are strong and don't need my condescending bullshit. (you can actually find a couple o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:25 AM
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Not really, given that this is a list that reflects modern western cultural norms. Plenty of middle eastern African and Asian men would disagree. Ask for permission before spending your husband's money (understand that “No” does mean no) Same for her money? Or their money?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:20 AM
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Did you miss the last presidential election??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:11 AM
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It's been scientifically verified Y'all still telling that lie? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:05 AM
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No idea but if what you're getting at is that the QB/point guard/star RB had more groupies wanting them, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:02 AM
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Which needs both people to be willing to solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 12:58 AM
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Interesting thanks. We have a similar obsession with ''footy stars'' but they don't make as much money and it's not a big deal on campuses, ime (these people don't go to Uni, they just get into professional leagues) Yeah I think in the US what we've basically done with college sports is created a 2nd level professional sports system that is based on exploitation of players who are revenue sources but don't get paid, many from very poor backgrounds. Sure they get a free education (yet most never …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:14 AM
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It was like he'd never been rejected in his life Yeah this. Are you in UK? I ask because I've always been curious if there's a similar culture around professional football in the UK. I know they make a ton of money but does UK share the same cultural obsession with athletes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:41 AM
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Less risk of divorce? Well sure in theory ending no fault will disincentivize divorce but it's more likely it would just incentivize more people to avoid marriage altogether. Sorry but in this day and age few women or men outside of religious circles want to be permanently shackled in a miserable marriage. Not to mention that eliminating no fault will mean even more frivolous charges of DV, abuse, etc as people will still try to get out of marriages they don't want to be in. this is an idealist …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:36 AM
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Good points. Groupies were just what we called them. Whether rockstar and movie star groupies act the same I can't say. At the same time I can't agree that only famous men in the sense you mean have groupies. If one has never experienced college sports culture in the US they just don't know. Even at the college level literally billions of dollars are trading hands off these kids. Many of them have been treated like stars since they were young because of their future earning potential and just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:10 AM
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I don't know about rockstar circles but I do know about athletes at high profile D1 schools. In college I recall a circle of women we called groupies who clustered around the football and basketball players especially the ones with pro contract potential. They did their homework for them, did their laundry, drove them around campus, bought them food and gifts, took their booty calls any time of day or night. None of these girls were like "if I do his laundry I might get sex with him!" cause they…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:28 AM
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"Most people will" or "most people won't?" You have some odd ideas about personal wealth. And you're contradicting yourself because you said in another post that marriage means zero money worries (unless you meant that marriage to a partner in the top 1% means zero money problems, but 99% of us aren't and never will be married to them.) People at the 10% tier are basically around the 200k household income range. That's pretty common in the part of the country I live in and I can tell you how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:00 AM
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Marraige =/= zero money worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:44 AM
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Any clinic gives out free condoms. Yes in a very rural area that might not be convenient but there are now nonprofits that send free condoms by online mail order.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:41 AM
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Marriage is the "easy life???"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:36 AM
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TBF free birth control isn't exactly difficult to find. There's something else that needs to be addressed which is the perception in some contexts/communities that two parents and fathers in particular are no longer necessary to raise a child. This has a particularly disastrous effect on boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:30 AM
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In my experience observing groupies they aren't clustering around Chad to be the one Chad fucks but to be the one to lock Chad down (generally). The sex is more a means to an end. I'm doing a bad job of explaining why but I don't think them being more sexually aggressive than the average woman negates that they still are gatekeepers. Plus a lot of those groupies hang around groups of Chads (athletes, bands, etc) and are in a position to chose among the Chads if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:44 AM
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They're not all Hollywood stars but they're all high profile. You don't think the wives of fortune 50 execs deal with all of the above minus the paparazzi (and even then some are in the news a lot) .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:10 AM
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I think there's a pretty significant range between "better off" and the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:08 AM
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solipsism forces you to hold beliefs that reinforce your current lifestyle, want it, feel good about it, and not want what you implicitly feel you cannot obtain. Why is it necessary that she want the same things in life as you? You idolize that lifestyle but that doesn't make it preferable for 100% of the universe just because you prefer it. That is solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:01 AM
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Having women throwing themselves at him all the time. Groupies. Far more likely to cheat. Having to keep an eye on people trying to scam you/shake you down to get their hands on your money. Always being in the spotlight and followed by paparazzi 24/7. Having zero privacy and having your every move scruntized by the world. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:56 AM
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I think youre making a lot of assumptions about causation. It's possible/likely higher income couples don't have the added pressure of money issues and that's why their divorce rates are lower. People who've never been poor/in debt and married have no idea the pressure you're under 24/7 and all the resentment that comes with it. Plus the more money a couple has the more they can outsource the unpleasant time sucking stuff. Which is also a source of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:51 AM
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I'm curious about this idea RPers have that ending no fault divorce will save marriage. I mean I know it comes from the RP notion that women divorce frivolously for "cash and prizes." What is the basis for believing that ending no fault divorce will incentivize men to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:30 AM
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Boys who grew up with sisters in the 70s and 80s were taught to treat girls with kid gloves, to defer and supplicate to them that girls are wonderful that girls never ever do anything wrong that girls never lie that in a dispute between a boy and a girl, >the girl is always right and the boy is always wrong that you must give the girl whatever she wants, when she wants it Someone forgot to tell my brothers, my male cousins, the boys in every neighborhood I ever lived in in the 70s and 80s, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:17 PM
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Or that women can have preference or opinion on anything that doesnt align with what he wants without "feminism and The State being to blame."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:07 PM
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How is that "gender stuff?" Because the person who fucked you over is a woman it's "gender stuff?" And personal attacks while running away with your tail between your legs is what I expect from you at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:48 PM
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No I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:41 PM
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Didn't you just get done complaining that blues lack empathy for your plight, now it's "no feelz, you silly girl!" Then you go on and rant on about your personal resentment and anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:30 PM
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Sorry what happened to you is terrible but what does it have to do with OPs question?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:17 PM
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Aren't they the both a problem for both genders? I don't think men want to be in an abusive relationship anymore than women want to be in a sexually unfulfilling one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:09 PM
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Yes I know what you were trying to say. I'm asking for specific examples. Otherwise it's just vague AWALT hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:19 PM
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So some posts/comments in TRP today: Porn stars boyfriend beats her so bad she winds up in hospital; her fault for “being irresponsible” https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5ls3yn/you_should_be_more_careful_is_not_victim_blaming/dbxzx8o/ Women in their 20s go to the gym half naked (I’d like to see that gym that actually lets women work out literally “half naked”); she is being “provocative” and has no right to say men should not ogle her https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5lny…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:21 PM
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Never said I did. But calling out the people who hatemonger is never a bad thing in my book. You do understand the difference right? Did it escape you that i was repeating what OP said not offering my own opinion. Hence the "thanks for clearing that up."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:32 PM
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TBP is a reaction to TRP. How can you discuss one without the other? You keep saying that TBP has no clue about TRP but I'm pretty confident in saying it's you who doesn't understand what TBP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:31 PM
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OP does. As long as the hate is directed at people he thinks deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:23 PM
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I'm saying that hating someone for their thoughts -- thoughts expressed in the privacy afforded by internet anonymity -- isn't a good idea. Right, so you are saying people who post in TRP shouldn't be held to what they say because it's anonymous. Is that an admission that most of it is circle jerking and made-up field reports? Thought crime, GTFOH. You are not entitled to be free of criticism of your thoughts and ideas. If you can't handle it, stop posting on a public forum and circle jerk in pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:23 PM
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Hate on TRP is ok because they post some stuff on self improvement sometimes. Thanks for clearing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:56 AM
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They're basing it on what TRPs routinely write from their own accounts on the sub. Are you trying to argue that TRPs shouldn't be accountable for the things they post because they're posting anonymously? Judging someone based on their skin color or religion is totally different from judging individual people based on their own words and actions, and how you claim to to not understand this boggles my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:51 AM
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I think it's attraction vs fetishizing. The ones who fetishize young women (like your second example) go on and on about how they're "sweet/innocent" (too inexperienced to know how bad in bed he actually is), more appreciative (unaware of how low his status is relative to other men his age), less jaded (insecure about asserting her own needs/easy to control). The ones saying women are post wall at 23 and they should forgo any life experience and marry at 18 to a lonely tech nerd in his 30s. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:22 AM
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This might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 01:39 AM
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There probably some truth to this, everyone hates getting older and less attractive. But I think you're confused. What annoys older women is not that men are attracted to younger women (we know and accept this) but the arrogant delusion they display. 40/50ish guys who actually believe they're as attractive as they were at 25 but women their age are evil hags that deserve to die a slow painful death, and who actually believe attractive 20 year olds prefer men their age and in fact they'd be fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:52 PM
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Men are angry because women now have the agency to make their own decisions and are often choosing to stay away from subpar men. Red pill in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:31 PM
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That's all nice but it didn't answer my question. Your comment suggested that women want to be strong and independent until they need men or need a scapegoat. Did I misinterpret your comment? If not, can you give some examples of what you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:23 PM
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Feminine primacy tells women they're Strong and Independent® right up until men's masculine aspects are a convenient necessity. Men are superfluous until women need a foil for the decisions they made being Strong and Independent. I would love it if you'd elaborate on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:53 PM
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Says dude who can't even post response that doesn't contain an emotional outburst/subjective reasoning based on personal biases. Seriously give it a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:51 PM
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lol at using the bachelorette as evidence of real life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:31 AM
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And the most photoshopped
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:36 AM
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I almost choked on my beer when I read that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 03:52 AM
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You spend wasaaaay too much time worrying about other people's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 03:50 AM
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I'm an agnostic because I call bullshit on 99% of what the Christian religion I was raised with promotes, but I can't say 100% that there is no supreme being. Maybe there is. I don't practice my religion because I find a large percentage of "Christians" to be hypocritical assholes I can't stand to be around. My parents were never super religious. Church always seemed more about social ties and structure than anything else to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 03:28 AM
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Ok. So you obviously think women having multiple partners is making bad choices and we should encourage women to be chaste. Do you think we should also discourage the men who manipulate their way into women's pants by lying to them and being dishonest about their intentions? You know, kinda like exactly what RP teaches?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:02 PM
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But you just said society is crumbling because women have choices. Isn't that what you said?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:51 PM
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So you would want them to have choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:42 PM
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Are you seriously posting under a different name and endorsing your own comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:33 PM
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What if those future children are girls? You'd prefer your daughters grow up and be forced to marry a loser to survive because they're women and they shouldn't have options?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:31 PM
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I was replying to blackheartblackmask. Unless you're him posting under a different user name.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:19 PM
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Yes but they swear all men think this way but won't say it. Isn't that the hypothesis of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:17 PM
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Every school and every situation is different. Let me just say I went to at D1 party school too, was an athlete so I spent 90% of my time around jock types, who BTW never had much to do with the frat boys (who most people saw as insecure losers). I never knew them to care as much as you say. I agree with other posters that it largely comes down to differences in what constitutes a high N count, but it's also age. The obsession with N counts generally wanes during college (when the virgins start …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:16 PM
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You posted yesterday that you're married or engaged (you "put a ring on it" were you're exact words). So why do you care what other women do? You found your unicorn. You're awfully bitter for someone who claims to be in a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:06 PM
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I don't think the average man cares that that a woman slept with 6 men before him. You've never heard from a TRP incel on the subject then. Quite a few of them think +1 is too high. No BS, I see that here all the time. I literally just read a TRP yesterday say 2 was riding the cock carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 10:03 PM
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If it were that easy we wouldn't need divorce lawyers and courts to intervene in the first place. I get where you're going and I don't disagree with the premise. One of the biggest problems is that people don't discuss their expectations before they get married. I just think if you start opening up the contract to be modified every time one party changes their mind about something, the whole idea of a contract becomes pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:12 PM
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Fair enough. But what happens when life doesn't go according to the plan in your fancy contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 05:06 PM
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Also called a prenup. Most people are aware these exist, they just don't bother to get one because they think divorce won't ever happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:53 PM
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Oh right I forgot. Chad is the wild card who can be described however is needed at the moment to win your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:03 AM
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You didn't address my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:07 AM
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If low SMV men are oppressed because attractive women won't have sex with them, then low RMV women are oppressed because wealthy men won't marry them. I'm guessing you don't have as much sympathy for the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:02 AM
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Most men do not have sex like this all the time. Most men have few opportunities for casual sex. Many men have no opportunities for casual sex. Men don't separate sex from love as a rule? Isn't that whole ever fucking point of RP, to help men get casual sex and disparage commitment of any kind???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:38 AM
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Actually society penalizing people for not following the rules is just as if not more effective. No, it is the main reason most of the populous (most men are not attractive, after all) decides to opt in to the society at all. 1) what historically was the alternative for men who didn't opt in? 2) how does this support your belief that society invented marriage for men to get laid and if all men aren't getting laid society is failing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:16 AM
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Then society has a responsibility to get me a rich husband. And to structure itself in such a way that allows me to simultaneously be a CEO and a SAHM. Every society has rules and obligations centered around sex and the purpose of following those rules is to obtain the benefit of sex and the obligations go both ways. Sorry to disappoint you Wrong. "Society" (which historically has been ruled by religion and government) sets the rules for the greater good, which is stability, safety and productiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:59 AM
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Then explain: Go to any poor neighborhood and you'll find a plethora of HS dropouts with criminal records still living with their mothers, unkept and disheveled, who have 10 kids by 10 different women who are having fistfights in the street over them. Sorry for the double post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:47 AM
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Go to any poor neighborhood and you'll find a plethora of HS dropouts with criminal records still living with their mothers, unkept and disheveled, who have 10 kids by 10 different women who are having fistfights in the street over them. Any man can be slut if he's willing to lower his standards enough. And yeah, a trail of low class baby mamas most certainly lowers his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:43 AM
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Or accept a lower quality of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:38 AM
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Avoid the trap of defining yourself by how others see you, if you keep dating assholes, maybe it's you who needs to do something differently, unlearn everything "society" taught you about men, and you will survive having your heart broken. There, one sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:49 PM
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Especially since none of us ever suspected it. Given all the time we all spent together over the years, they hid it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:43 PM
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"Don't fuck all those 200 Chads trying to get them to commit, ride the cock carousel for a decade and find a beta you don't love or have any interest in fucking to marry when you're a 28 year old hag." Oh no, wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:31 PM
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Divorce rate is lower than the average in my circle and it definitely doesn't give anyone a status boost. The only time we've "celebrated" a divorce when was one was getting out of a bad situation (like my friends husband who she discovered was screwing one of her best friends for 5 years). We are all late 30s and early to mid 40s with careers and we're well aware that dating in your 40s is not like dating in your 20s, and that careers and single motherhood are a sucky combination. There's littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:09 PM
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Pretty sure I listed that as one of the reasons in my first comment (read it again). The 1st and 3rd articles also say and I quote: Employers like married men with children. There is evidence that employers prefer and promote men who are married with children, especially compared to their childless male peers and to mothers. Married men are often seen as more responsible and dedicated workers and are rewarded with more opportunities by employers. While illegal bias and long-held stereotypes appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:24 AM
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www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/04/02/dont-be-a-bachelor-why-married-men-work-harder-and-smarter-and-make-more-money/ www.cnbc.com/amp/id/49713774 www.cbsnews.com/news/why-do-married-men-earn-more-than-single-guys-doing-the-same-job/ I could keep posting these. But I'll just say that just because you don't like the reality doesn't mean it's not reality. "Bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:03 AM
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None of that disproves the fact that married men make more than single. Some reasons: -Employers see married men as being more stable and reliable than single men (as someone who's been in management and responsible for hiring for years I can attest this is a prevailing attitude among employers) -Married men are more likely than single men to make career decisions based on the prospect or reality of being the primary or sole breadwinner -Your contention that men with more earning potential are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:53 AM
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What do you mean by "changing sexual urges?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 01:38 AM
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Men are more likely to cheat. Does that mean men are more flawed? Or are we canceling each other out? lesbian relationships have the highest break-up rates Are you ever going to provide a source for this stat you keep bringing up? Cause this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:12 AM
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Bookmarking this for the next time someone here tells me "No TRPs take 80/20 literally." I wish I could remember who said that to me just last week, I'd tag him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:42 AM
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If you're trying to claim that I'm lying, it works better if you don't post the comment in question right underneath your denial. I thought "I know more about women than you do because I know some women even though you are one" was bad until you posted this gem: No. Any WOMAN can get laid. Since you're not a man, you really can't speak to this. Da fuq????
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:29 AM
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Smdh Good luck to you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:08 AM
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They're coming to RP because they couldn't figure out how to improve themselves in their own. You said as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:03 AM
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Mmkay Well in the sense that now i can actually get laid while spending as little time, attention and resources as possible. And do you? Or are we talking "in theory."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:00 AM
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Like you met the woman of your dreams and are happy well?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:55 AM
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Self improvement is a mans domain If that were true RP wouldn't exist in the first place. Circle jerk on!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:54 AM
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And how's all that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:51 AM
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That's what TRPs tell me all the time. I can't refute what they say about women because I don't date or fuck women. Lewis Cross in this thread, for example. The fact that I am one doesn't matter. Therefore, your opinion as man who hasn't dated many women is no more valid than mine. Just trying to be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:58 AM
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Ding ding ding!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:46 AM
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TRP idolizes Chad. Not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:43 AM
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Ok so unless you've been stepping out on your wife for the last nine years, you still have no more experience with women than you did when you met her (at least in the context of dating/pursuing). The Red Pill saved my marriage, hands down. Mind if I ask what specifically? I really do feel for men (and women) in bad marriages and there are enough of them out there. I'm not going to say people don't tend to start taking each other for granted more often than not, but it sounds to me you just deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:43 PM
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If you have a specific example i ll definitely get into it np. The general demonization of women and shifting of blame for ANYTHING that goes wrong EVER onto women that permeates RP. It's not at all hard to find, which I'm sure you know. "Women are children, women should never be given power or responsibility, women are never to be trusted, women want to be physically dominated" -- these are things that get a chuckle out of men who aren't literalists, have capacity for nuance, and understand how…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:33 PM
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What about it did you find most useful? What were the things it taught you that you felt like you weren't getting elsewhere? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:02 PM
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So you personally feel that it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:39 PM
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RP tells us that your advice to help guys get laid is useless. OK that's fair. (if you mean "you" as in me personally). But why not take advice from a BP/not RP guy who is successful with women who isn't consumed with his own bitterness, who isn't giving vulnerable and socially challenged men advice that might get them in legal trouble, who isn't decrying feminists and society for trying to shame men into one definition of masculinity, and then turning and trying to shame men into their definiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:36 PM
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went right over your head. I've been a woman for 4 decades. I think I have a little insight on want women want. This is the part where you tell me that RP says women don't know what they want so me being a woman saying what I want isn't valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:16 PM
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wasn't offering, brah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:12 PM
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my magic vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:09 PM
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Before I point out what I think is the obvious, are you still married to the woman you said was gf #5?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:08 PM
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Red Pill predicts women's behavior and describes women's natures with shocking, almost disturbing, dead on accuracy. You actually believe that don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:04 PM
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How not to have sex. FTFY The point is you lose credibility as a self proclaimed expert on women's nature when you admit to having little first hand experience. Is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:34 PM
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If it works why are there SOOOOOOOO many TRPs here constantly complaining about being celibate, about not being able to attract the kind of women they want, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:43 PM
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How is red pill "working for you?" What are you getting as a result of it? Specifics, please. If there weren't millions of men out there who don't view women as children, who don't emotionally and sexually manipulate women, who don't project their insecurities on the rest of the world, who have successful relationships with women, you might have a point. And holy shit, some of them are even unattractive, short, bald (I LOVE bald men), obese, and skinny! Mind blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:23 PM
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Maybe it's like the female body's last-ditch effort to get pregnant before her fertility window closes. That's what I've always thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:57 AM
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I'm older than you, BTW. That's not the issue, nor is race. I'll give you a pass on HS, because everyone was lying about sex back then. My question is when you call these women "girlfriends," are you referring to having actual LTRs with them? Also do you recognize a bit of cognitive dissonance in the fact that you spend exorbitant amounts of time and energy preaching about the "true nature" of women and how terrible we are, yet you fully admit to being a late bloomer with very little experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:45 AM
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It's not unusal to hear women around my age (late 30s/early 40s) say they have a higher sex drive than their husbands or the men they date if they're single. Not sure why but for some reason Mother Nature thought it was a good idea to separate men's and women's sexual peak by two decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:45 AM
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As the parent of a boy, I categorically refute this 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:36 AM
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It boggles my mind that men consider a woman they never had sex with a "girlfriend." I mean how long did you date these women without ever having sex with them? And can you ever really have a relationship without sex (barring religious preferences or physical reasons)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:23 AM
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The Wikipedia page says: The accusation of being an SJW carries implications of pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and being engaged in disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise personal reputation, also known as virtue signalling. So is the issue that SJWs are seen as disingenuous attention whores who don't really care about social justice beyond how it affects them personally, or is it that the alt right is so fucked up the very idea that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:03 AM
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Mind if I ask how old you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:47 AM
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I think it's more subtle and often is not a blatant attempt to insult a person of color but more a reflection of their own biases, ignorances and assumptions, especially when they come from liberals who think they can't possibly be prejudiced. Like catching a ride to a meeting with co-worker and she turns her radio to a rap station (because all black people like rap music). Like being asked in a high-end store where the X is (because a black woman could only be working there, not shopping there)…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:37 AM
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I don't think people realise that even in the Western world that they simply will not be required. It's all "there are winners and losers in life, oh, well." Until we personally become the losers. Then we have a very different POV on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:56 AM
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What exactly is an SJW?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:47 AM
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I think claiming that women in general have as high a sex drive as men is ridiculous Do you think this changes as we age or is it constant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:47 AM
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Your previous comment: Having a gangbang is objectifying yourself. The whole experience of a gangbang is sexual. What is she offering these men besides her vagina and mouth? Be realistic here. Think about the woman's actions. She is agreeing to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:45 PM
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She says she didn't consent. It has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative. Consent is not presumed nor is it waived simply because she meets your personal definition of a "slut." You're trying to force fit a moral position into a legal one and failing miserably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 07:36 PM
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So you take women out on dates right? Imagine that next time you take a girl out to dinner, halfway through she sees 5 of her friends at a nearby table and invites them to join you. They start ordering their own meals and put them on your bill, and you get stuck with paying it. Your date says, well youre the one who asked me out to dinner, you never said I couldn't ask my friends to join in. You seem to like paying for women's dinners since you offered to pay for mine, so we all assumed it was O…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:55 PM
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First off you fully admitted that not getting a STEM degree/job was your own fault because you fucked up and didn't take school seriously. Your own fucking words. Or was that someone else posting under your user name? Second, do two things for me: 1) Do some research on availability of scholarships and grants available to students who want to major in STEM. There are TONS. Some are gender specific but most are not. At this point in time STEM grads are still in high demand and no other fields, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 03:11 AM
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You really don't see how it might be frustrating to some to be advantaged solely because of biological matters outside of your control? Of course I can. Personally. So yeah, it is a little upsetting that I wasn't born with a biological feature that society would fall over itself to reward. So how have you been disadvantaged "solely because of biological matters out of your control?" How specifically have you been discriminated against for being male?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 01:49 AM
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No, I went to college and fucked around, which resulted in me having decent, but not terribly great, employment. That's my fault, no one else's, and not "society's." Yep. I'm not a woman, so I can't blame it on these things and have everyone uncritically accept it. You sounded like you were blaming women for your lack of a career in STEM in your previous comment. I'd like a good STEM job. Pity I don't have a vagina. That was you, wasn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:47 PM
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Which is what? What point are you even trying to argue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:12 PM
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Department of Justice statistics show rape is way underprosecuted and conviction rates are abysmal. It doesn't matter what you think about the facts. They're still facts. The contraceptive mandate only applies to women When they make a male birth control pill I'm all for it being covered too. The reason condoms aren't covered is because they're already cheap (free in some places) and available without a prescription. I'm unaware of any other forms of contraception for men. and isn't specified an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:05 PM
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Read the article I linked to and you might
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:43 PM
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The term Vocational school in the US has a very specific connotation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:34 PM
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Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 07:31 PM
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I'm younger. Also wondering why men in the modern era must atone for the crimes of men hundreds of years ago. What does that have to do with prostitution???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:49 PM
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But there were stable, monogamous, familial households per those Christian values, so prostitution wasn't a need. Wow. How old are you, out of curiosity? And are you also pinging with me questions from a different user name? Subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:15 PM
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No, they really can't, because biology. Feminists either know this and don't care, or they're completely ignorant. The urge to reproduce and to find a mate in a man is quite strong, there's no way men, in the presence of women, won't make moves in the workplace. Have you ever actually held a job in your life? Doesn't seem like you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:12 PM
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Maybe not. But a misogynist dick who talks about sexually assaulting women can get elected POTUS. Power + prejduice of course!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:11 PM
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Utilizing bunk statistics to demonize males - e.g. "women make $0.77 for every $1.00 men make for the same work!" and "1 in 5 women on college campuses are raped!" How is that demonizing males? Pointing out that women are more likely to work in lower paying jobs and are more likely than men to be sexual assaulted is not demonizing men on an individual level. These are systematic issues, not an indictment of everyone with a penis. This what anti-feminist men need to understand and stop taking sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:06 PM
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By vocational schools I mean capentry, electrician, automotive, culinary, etc., not biology and psychology. Wow. you really are combative against the idea of males attending schools of higher learning. Nothing I wrote even remotely suggests that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 05:49 PM
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I know this is a favorite tradcon talking point but let me ask a question. Let's assume the research is unbiased and correct. Boys lack the ability to sit still and pay attention and as a result are doing worse in school compared to girls. Do you deny that the vast majority of decent paying jobs in today's economy require brain not braun? Critical thinking, analysis, problem solving, ability to get along with people, etc? So is it possible that where boys want to run around and play all day, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:55 AM
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What exactly is your point in the context of what I wrote (the whole comment, not the part you took out of context). Also, do men have certain features specifically to be attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:29 AM
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That's not my argument. Try reading it again for context. And what is "behaving like a man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:22 AM
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Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:16 AM
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Damn. If circle jerking was an Olympic sport you'd have more golds than Michael phelps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:19 AM
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Why do you assume that if STEM becomes 50/50 men will be vilified? I've never seen that happen in any other field with parity. Like men and women can't work side by side without problems??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:44 AM
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It was a problem when women were kept out. Men today aren't being kept out of STEM programs. If you have evidence that I'm wrong please share. Drying up of blue collar jobs is not the fault of women entering STEM.?? You talk as if anyone of any gender today can't go to college and major in anything they want. If these guys are chosing to not go to college and sit around complaining it's not fair that the factories are all closed, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:37 AM
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i think philomena meant that women of subsaharan african decent have different hair that doesn't grow "long" like people of European decent think of the meaning. And how could African men who'd never seen European hair prior to colonization prefer something they'd never seen. I don't think she was trying to "mesh"'with OP's argument. (I could be wrong). When OP says patriarchal cultute I assume she means men defining what's beautiful and shaming women who don't meaure up to it. Again I could be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:30 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:21 AM
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I think she's talking about sub Saharan Africa
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:02 AM
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They're coming for you...any second now...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:01 AM
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In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:34 AM
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That's a problem why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:31 AM
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So you are arguing that's the standard POV of feminists? That's the standard view of leading feminist organizations? Meanwhile I can find 100s if not 1000s of references to feminism as the cause of men's problems on RP subs, blogs, etc. I counted 10 on this thread alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:21 AM
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Are you arguing that's the standard feminist POV or just being snarky?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:11 AM
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In general yes in some ways no. My point is as far as TRPs are concerned everything that has a net positive gain for society has nothing to do with feminism and everything that has a net negative gain is the fault of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:09 AM
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Feminism is not above criticism and few would say it doesn't have its issues (as OP does). But the extent to which TRPs blame literally everything on feminism is ridiculous. I challenge you to show how men as a whole are significantly worse off now, post feminism, than they were before and prove that feminism, not classism, not the economy, not capitalism, just feminism alone is the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:06 AM
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So post some evidence that proves your counter argument. BTW the SAHD more likely to cheat study was done by a Cornell researcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:54 AM
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TRP: everything good is because of technology and modern medicine. Everything bad is because of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:51 AM
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Women are dominating STEM?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:49 AM
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You haven't posted anything to support your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:45 AM
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Prostitution was already illegal. I never said there weren't some feminists who are against prostitution (and some are for it). But it is far from accurate to say feminists are the reason it's illegal except in Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:39 AM
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I know in Florida (I think) Funny because my understanding is that stay at home dads are more likely to cheat. Perhaps that's why their wives are divorcing them? Or that men do even less work around the house when their wives earn more. Meaning breadwinner wives are subjected even more to the second shift. Maybe that's why their wives are divorcing them? Believe me, I'm the first to say there are all kinds of reasons people divorce and rarely is it entirely all on one spouse. But clearly men of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:36 AM
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Prostitution was outlawed from the day the first European ship arrived in America and long before there was ever such thing as a feminist. Christian values are the basis for most American laws legislating sexuality, including this one. You guys really need to start reading actual history books.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:23 AM
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And I've already said most people do not base their lives on mainstream life advice. People who do are generally mocked as gullible and lacking self awareness. Why do you keep arguing this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 05:09 AM
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Im not arguing that it remains very, very difficult to prosecute rape. I just have a serious issue with a non-legal sector of society setting up an extra-judicial system with no regulation guided by its own self interest. Given the number of victims who've attempted to use these systems who are now suing their universities, it doesn't seem to me to be doing a particularly good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 04:00 AM
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Most of Stephen Kings books are best sellers. Never seen anyone correlate them to real life increase in murder rates. SMH that I'm actually arguing with someone about eat, pray, love as the cause of the American divorce rate...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:32 AM
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There is almost no no heterosexual aids from heterosexual sex. That's the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Discredited by literally thousands of scientifically verified sources. It's not an age issue. I'm well over 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:29 AM
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I'm sure you believe this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:03 AM
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Let me rephrase: average couples trying to raise their children, pay the bills, save for college/retirement, manage/survive the often excruciating task of getting along with another person 24/7 and deal with the realities of life aren't taking their cues from eat, pray, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:35 AM
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hysterical myth of heterosexual aids in the west What are you talking about??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:17 AM
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Virtually no women are out there living like eat, pray, love. GTFOH
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:13 AM
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turns out it's damn near impossible to transmit from woman to man that way. Wrong. Female to male transmission through vaginal sex is lower risk but not impossible and determined more by how much of the virus is in your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:06 AM
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I "came of age" during the worst part of the AIDS scare. People from all walks of life were being diagnosed and they were dying within 6 months of a positive HIV test. We were scared shitless. Everyone used condoms. They were given out everywhere. Going on a date without one made you look like a fool. Thankfully extraordinary advances in treatment have turned HIV from an automatic death sentence into a manageable chronic condition. And that's wonderful. But I think it's also made people complace…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:55 AM
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If they do, they have no reason to. Men get told to man up and commit. Or to suck it up if they get stuck paying for a kid they never wanted and actively tried not to have. Or to just deal with it if their partner tries to force them to give up their passions in life. Men get told to fall in line; there's nothing equivalent in the mainstream for women. Are you honesty trying to claim women don't give up their passions in life for their husbands? In two career couples, it is still assumed that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:39 AM
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You def. didn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:19 AM
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Rape victims should proceed immediately to police or medical centres if they want any hope of obtaining a conviction. Particularly important on college campuses because of these quasi justice systems that have been put in place on college campuses in recent years. Victims are led to believe they're better off trying to get redress through their school "because the police wont believe you." Loud and clear: your school administrators are not police, detectives or criminal lawyers (for the most par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 12:27 AM
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You don't even know what Marxism is do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 12:46 PM
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Attractiveness is tricky. You could argue that it's a necessary trait for both in women but then that largely depends on the man's SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:42 PM
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Perfect example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:26 PM
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So...I was right you were wrong? OK Just messing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:23 PM
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Ok an ugly woman whose a wonderful wife and mother. You're telling me these women routinely stay single? I see ugly happily married women every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:22 PM
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Blue to me is calling out the bullshit in RP. It's not all bullshit but much of it is, and it breeds horrible behavior in [some] men desperate for answers trying to be something they're not, using a framework they can't really implement correctly because they have unfixable blind spot. Also because I detest the alt right and a lot of RPers seem to only hang out there to partake in the hatemongering. Blue is not a thing. It's a reaction to red. I can't find any official organized "blue" dating id…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:17 PM
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NAMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 09:48 PM
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Except that in his case it's lip service. He's part of the 1% that benefits from the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:37 PM
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I think you're right. Which explains the decidedly masculine look that many models including Gisele have. Also they're selling their clothes not the models face or body so it would make sense that they don't want models who will detract from the fashion "art."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:36 PM
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We have the most resource rich continent in the world and yet we're moving to a knowledge economy. Its dumb af. You have a point. But that requires the 1% that controls what is done with those resources to change what they are doing. It requires oil tycoons to get the fuck out of the Middle East even if it's at the expense of profits in the short term (not that drilling at home doesn't introduce another set of problems) It requires the coal industry to stop paying off lawmakers to prevent resear…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:18 PM
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A house of cards for the sector of society that alway had options to support themselves that didn't require a college degree. But this is the reality now and it's not going back. I don't know that anyone has the answer at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:08 PM
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A "knowledge economy" is a paper mansion. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 08:01 PM
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Then it is possible to be high in RMV and average/low in SMV. /u/Five_Decades said you can't get to high RMV without being high SMV. I disagree. A plain Jane who's would be an wonderful wife and mother is a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:50 PM
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Right so the real issue is that the vocational schools and tracking programs of the past that used to keep boys occupied until they could go out and get one of many blue collar union jobs available to them are gone. But this isn't feminists punishing boys for being boys, this is a larger shift in the global economy. the fact is that young people today need to be prepared to succeed in a knowledge economy, manufacturing jobs aren't coming back despite what Trump says.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:48 PM
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UK/Margaret thatcher? Israel/Golda Meir? India/Indira Ghandi? (Ok she was criticized for allowing corruption but so have most male leaders) Ireland/Mary McAleese? Germany/Angela Merkel? (though I'm not a big fan) Rewording: Would you agree that these countries have experienced success under the leadership of these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:42 PM
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The American public school model hasn't changed much in 100+ years. It's always been based on following orders and memorization. But boys did better than girls until recently. Your theory doesn't explain why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:28 PM
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Then how exactly are SMV and RMV different? If that's the case isn't it more like RMV is a just higher level of SMV? Are there any situations where a high SMV trait is contradictory to a high RMV trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 07:26 PM
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You're going to extremes. Finding one woman less attractive than another doesn't mean finding the other totally unattractive. It's not attractive vs unattractive. Isn't that why there's a rating scale in the first place? My husband is one of those who finds Gisele's features a little manly but he still says she's attractive, just not his taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:07 PM
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Ok take Gisele Bundchen. I've heard men say they think she looks a little masculine. I would bet you'd find men that would rate her an 8. Others would murder their own mothers for a chance to stand next to her for 5 seconds. At the end of the day I'm not really sure why it matters though. If a guy wants to use women's varying taste as an excuse to not improve physically, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:59 PM
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I'll give you a personal example. I find Rick Fox physically repulsive. There's something about him that literally turns my stomach. He's been married to a former Miss America and dated a sports illustrated swimsuit model. He's modeled and been in a dozen or so movies. So Obviously a whole lot of people do think he's hot. I think you'd find more variation among men than reds here will let on. Not as much as women but more than conventionally believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:40 PM
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Funny 😆 But I dont fuck feminists :) OK....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 01:51 PM
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As far as sex is concerned, single men have far more sex with more women than a married man. Quality > quantity. Married people have more sex than single people "help out with childcare and housework". Help out? They're his kids and it's his house too right? If a woman is earning less than her husband, then there is literally no reason why she shouldn't "still carry the bulk of childcare and housework" if her husband is paying "the bulk of the living expenses". Making less doesn't equate to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 02:16 AM
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Are men in your country getting their vasectomies and viagra paid for by the publicly financed health care system?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 01:16 AM
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🎶 don't want no short dick man. eenie weenie teenie weenie shriveled little short dick man. 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 12:35 AM
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Nah, Altas is the expert on my marriage. What could I possibly know about my husband, cause I'm blue pill and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 10:08 PM
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well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 10:02 PM
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Then like most things in RP, it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 10:01 PM
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Actually I think you all should come to consensus on your definitions first. All from RPers in this thread: The term "dread" comes from how the concept applies in an unhappy relationship; one where the woman has no respect for the man and feels like she can do whatever she wants and he's dreading you by his very existence (in response to a poster who said she's happily married and doesn't fear her husband cheating) and active dread is for people who break marital contracts and no longer have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:58 PM
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Actually its laughable and pathetic. I was just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:20 PM
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🙊
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:19 PM
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Huh? Where did I say anything about children or not letting anyone make their own decision or ditching women who won't fuck them??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 09:19 PM
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I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:41 PM
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Whos the man and who's the woman in your dating up sceanario?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:35 PM
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How convenient. So let's just say a high value woman spent her 20s with 1 or 2 noncommittal men who strung them along. She's not single as a result of being low value. She just trusted someone she loved who wasn't ready to commit. She's still not worthy of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 07:11 PM
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Do you disagree or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:56 PM
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He's "dreading" you just by his very existence. This is a prime example of why RP is problematic and like giving gasoline to a pyromaniac with a book of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:54 PM
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I read it, I understood it. And I agree with arthurmacarthur that at some point an adult has to take responsibility for the outcome of their own life. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:36 PM
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OK. But does making it sound so sinister actually help or hurt these men? I see quite a few posts from MRPers who have any slight issue in their relationship and think dread gaming is the answer. The issue is very likely being caused by something other than "she doesn't think I'm manly enough." But the only thing these guys can conceive in response to any relationship challenge is dread. That's a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:26 PM
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Actually it's common sense. I don't respect and treat him well because I live in fear he's going to leave me. I respect and treat him well because he does the same for me. If despite me doing so he still decides to leave me for someone else, then so be it. I'm sure he feels the same. =emotionally healthy adults
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:15 PM
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You're right, I don't understand a 30 year old who still blames their parents for their lack of ability to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:12 PM
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Except that you skipped over the part where I said he doesn't dread game me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 06:01 PM
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He's not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:55 PM
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I was always under the impression that dread game was about making her feel insecure, like she's less of a catch, so she won't leave because she doesn't think she have many options. Appreciate the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 05:42 PM
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Not sure what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:20 PM
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This is a question no woman can answer Mine does. And I don't even have to RPWi him. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:13 PM
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I'm aware he has options. I'm aware that if I don't make him happy he can find someone else. I don't take him for granted. He doesn't "dread game" (so fucking cringey) because 1) he's aware I value him, 2) when he's unsure for whatever reason he can talk to me about it rather than play games 3) if he felt he had to use passive aggressive mind games to keep me with him he would essentially be admitting he doesn't see himself as high value enough and 4) we don't see each other as replaceable. Here…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:11 PM
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Go on many first dates with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:52 PM
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So then hypergamy ceases as women get older and TRPs bitching about it should date older women who are far less likely to leave them. But they ain't doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:46 PM
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OP what country are you in? In America women drive. All. the. time. They even let us buy cars without our husbands or fathers co signing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:38 PM
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You're right but it's not the marxists
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:44 PM
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Only thing is he usually won't marry you, but he wouldn't marry you anyways... Laughed so hard I almost choked on my coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:43 PM
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You're processing this from a male POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:39 PM
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I know why this is an issue. Men face the possibility that they'll pay for a date and never see her again. And women face the possibility that she'll have sex with him after a few dates (or one) and never see him again. TRPs don't say much about that (other than to call her a slut). We're all taking a risk here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:20 PM
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BP women don't split or pay for dates? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:40 AM
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A major part of social awareness is smoothly handling situations -- often non-verbally -- instead of clumsily plowing right through them. Yep. Like asking someone out for coffee and then not so subtly being early and staring blankly at her like you're still wet behind the ears. Thats pretty socially astute. Tell me, how many second dates has this gotten you? It is crass to ask at the start of the date . Which is why when you're the one doing the asking you accept that etiquette dictates you may …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 08:54 AM
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But many girls who've always wanted that are being pressured into thinking they're lacking if they aren't that way. You know this how? Many feminists are married with children. Some women who consider themselves feminists have even been stay at home mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:40 AM
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She may be thinking you're passive aggressive for not just being upfront about wanting to split the bill. That will tell you the same thing without intentionally trying to trick her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:02 AM
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Fair enough. Up voted for balanced and thoughtful argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:53 AM
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You realize that a lot of people assume the person doing the asking is paying unless they make it clear they want to split the bill right? But my question was actually has it worked FOR YOU?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:55 AM
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It's not impossible, I can tell you that. You sound as though you think women want equality or careers or a partnership out of spite, as if yeah I want a career so I can undermine his manhood. That's not reality. By me having a career, all the pressure is not on him to support us. If one of us gets laid off, we still have one income. He never has to be stuck in a shitty job he hates because OMG we can't afford for you take a job making a few 1000 less because we need every penny. We have money f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:53 AM
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There are disrespectful women out there? You don't say. You're not obligated to deal with such women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:16 AM
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I mean, I don't know you, another poster tagged you into the conversation, so I take your word for it. Put it this way if I read what you and the other poster wrote in an OLD profile, I'd think he sounds like an interesting person, he takes care of himself. I'd message you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:30 PM
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I'm going to say there are another factors and dynamics behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:26 PM
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Which one is common?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:25 PM
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Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:24 PM
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Many men will not provide for women who scream at the top of their lungs how they don't need men and can do it for themselves. Many men don't see a need to provide for women who have little to offer except heavily used bodies. Projection and not answering OPs question. If you met a woman who was "loyal, feminine and beautiful" (to use /u/blackheartblackmask 's terminology) who made her own money and had assets, would you pursue a LTR with her? Why or why not? If you had to chose between "loyal, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:18 PM
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Does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:12 PM
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Which is not a problem specific to women. Is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:10 PM
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Men face these same life issues and just as many are fucked up because of it. They're not "problems women have" they're problems people have. Virtually all people. Like find me someone who hasn't been through at least one thing on the list. I'm sure you have too. People deal with it differently and I'm not saying anyone should stay with a person who unloads their issues on them, but you sound like you have a total lack of empathy for others and expect to find someone perfect when you're not your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:58 AM
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They all come from divorced parents, or a bad breakup, or their mom dying, or they have a weight problem, or daddy issues, or parents fighting, or body image issues, or substance abuse issues, or multiple divorces, or God knows what else. Didn't know these problems were specific to women. TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 11:06 PM
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I'm responding to this Eh.. tbh, I have seen girls directly rewarding bullies. and this When a guy dominates a man and more women are attracted to him as a result, he will keep repeating that behavior I realize the first one wasn't you but it's the same idea. I'm taking issue with the wording that women "reward" men with sex and the idea that women want/reward sociopathic men. I'm tired of hearing this. Also, I'm friends with a few guys who are what you'd call "weak cowering men", and they make …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:55 AM
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You're arguing that it's a conscious choice by women to provide reward sex to men who bully. That's not how it is. Saying that women are not sexually attracted to weak cowering men does not mean women are attracted to hyper aggressive abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 01:35 AM
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Maybe he's afraid of women? Doesn't actually want to date or have relationships? Does RP offer anything for men who are sabotaging themselves because they can't admit they really don't want what the world says as men they're supposed to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:52 AM
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What do you think is the reason he's a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:47 AM
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I have never in all my years heard anyone say looks don't matter for men except for highly delusional 40+ overweight guys at the club trying to get 20 year olds Let's say it is true that someone told you in life that looks don't matter. You know now it does. How are you going to use that information? Improve your looks? Gain other positive attributes that offset your unattractiveness? Or sit around and bitch and moan about 80/20 and n counts? Note I'm using you in the generic sense not specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:45 AM
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There's a guy at work, 47 years old, still in an entry level job, still lives with his parents, complains all the time about being broke, is short and all of 110 pounds soaking wet, couldn't find a coherent sentence with a map...and he has a girlfriend. "There's someone for everyone" is true, providing your expectations aren't out of line with your abilities. If you want to stretch for a higher SMV that you have or can get is when it gets hard. Personality does matter more than looks over the lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:32 AM
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Depends on his answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:21 AM
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...porn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:49 AM
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Sucks to be a broke traditionalist, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:33 AM
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There are tons of things you can do that are low cost and don't involve exercising, providing you don't live in the sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:25 AM
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But insurance executives still take risks if those risks have to potential to have a high return. No one stays in business being 100% risk averse. Besides isn't predictability in a relationship boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:58 AM
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Do i have to start lifting then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:50 AM
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So I guess if I pull out the strap on tonight and go to town, I'm the masculine one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:42 AM
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Define "dominated." There's a pretty wide spectrum of behaviors that come under "dominated."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:39 AM
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It was the way you worded it. Like "man I was feeling really manly today until that dick in my ass. Took a hit to my manhood today." So masculinity = no dick in the ass and aggression. Do I have that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:28 AM
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The flaw in that theory (that feminists' promotion of casual sex leads to more unplanned pregnancies) is that affordable birth control is available to anyone in the US. Having more sex or having it with more partners doesn't make you more likely to get pregnant -- unless you/he weren't using birth control or weren't using it correctly. I know people don't like to hear this but with few exceptions, unplanned pregnancy resulting from consensual sex is simply the result of carelessness. Also many s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 01:08 AM
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It's the same reason getting fucked in the ass causes your masculinity to take a hit. WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:45 AM
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Then TRPs ought to shut the fuck up about men not getting custody. Cause you know women are predisposed by their biology to be better nurturers and caretakers right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:07 AM
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No one says men and women are the same.They're saying if a woman has the strength and stamina to be a coal miner, firefighter or navy seal, she should be allowed to. If a woman has the aptitude to be an engineer or physicist she should be allowed to. Is that really so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:02 AM
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Here we go again with the male solipsism. Athletes are jacked and muscles are sexy so she must had really enjoyed sex with him. Repeat after me: attractiveness =/= good sex for women. Once and for all. PS from a girl who's dated several athletes. They're no more likely to be better in bed than any other man (worse if they've only ever had ONS, and far worse if they juice, I'm sure you know it makes your dick shrivel up.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:48 AM
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I think she means if more women do anal then men come to expect it from women. I can't comment on this because I've been out of the dating market for 14 years. So I'm wondering if young single women feel like anal is normalized enough now that men expect them to do it. She's probably right about what she's saying, that over time things that were taboo become normal expectations, but I'm not sure I agree that only sluts are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:00 PM
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I don't know I just see it mentioned often. Maybe I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:55 PM
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Theres a reason this sub is overrun with lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:34 PM
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when i was a teen in the 80s, almost no "good" girls gave bjs, sluts did. Are you Mormon or Amish by any chance? when anal permeated normal girls and became de rigeur, Any women here feel like they have to do anal to keep a guy around? (Assuming you don't actually like anal, that is) This also flies in the face of everything RP says. They won't commit to sluts and advise women to stay chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:21 AM
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I want you to know that excepting my premise that you can flip a switch and cheat on the partner you so intimately love and connect too doesn't make you a bad partner and it doesn't make you more likely to cheat on him. In fact women can be loyal but it takes enormous practice, guidance, well chosen female friends and male stewardship. Feel free to hit up the redpillwomen sub reddit if you feel you need that. Nice gals over there. Well I thank you for taking the time. I'll be sure to mull your t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:49 PM
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If women are so loyal why do they initiate and finalize 80% of divorces? So more men cheating makes them "more loyal" but more women filing for divorce makes them the less loyal gender. Mmkay. I'm not saying women don't make a conscious choice Then what exactly are you arguing? You started this thread by claiming my "desire" to cheat would "make itself known" if my husband started doing things I don't like. The tl;dr here is people regardless of circumstances have a choice to cheat or not cheat,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:01 PM
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Lol. Married people still find other people attractive. That's normal. You make a conscious choice not to cheat. I'm saying nothing radical here. If men are less slaves to desire and more loyal why do most studies show married men cheating at a higher rate than married women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:30 PM
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Prostitution was always condemned. It's legal now in more places than ever before in history. Face it men today have more options for NSA sex than any point in history. The problem for these guys is women have more options too. Along with sexual freedom came economic freedom for women. Which means women don't need to submit to unattractive unappealing men for support anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:44 PM
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RP's dont' trust attractive women as partners. "Partners" being the key word. They would fuck attractive women any day of the week, they just wouldn't commit to most of them. Wait what? Did you mean to write unattractive? I wont get into another discussion about the flaws in looking for women with low n counts (hint: humans lie). I'd rather not make things personal, I did that earlier this week and this woman seemed to get very insecure about her relationship No worries. I'm not the least bit in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:18 PM
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I've never cheated even in bad relationships. I have zero desire to leave my husband for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:42 AM
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Here, here (or is it hear, hear?) I'm with you. RP has made me adore the men in my life even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:32 AM
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You keep throwing out the statistics, can you provide some citations please?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:25 AM
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So In other words the brains of modern men can overcome evolutionary drives then. If he can rationalize that sex with a slut doesn't matter because they're using protection and he's not getting into a relationship with her anyway, then your whole theory goes right out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:23 AM
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Im still pondering your main point but I will say I think your point about penetration is important. I think it's why few men of any pill or ideology can really relate to women's feelings about rape -- unless they themselves have been raped by a man. There is something tragically unjust and horrible about having someone invade or enter your body against your will. When the topic of female on male rape comes up, guys will joke "I wish she'd rape me." But if you say to them imagine some big burly …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:09 AM
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Anyone can get a fuck. Finding someone to fuck isn't hard. Getting laid, as it is understood by most men, is fucking someone that is attractive. It doesn't mean fucking some woman that spreads her legs every time she sees a penis. That is why low-n counts are often important to men. I don't understand this. There is no correlation between attractiveness and n count. I've seen TRPs say they don't trust attractive women as partners because they just know she's fucked a ton of guys because guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:44 AM
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So I have a question. Is it a RP belief that men are inherently violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:30 AM
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Yesterday I used the example of my husband. He definitely didn't become an engineer to get laid. He wanted to do something he loves and excel in a highly respected career. He also played division 1 college basketball. He could have at the very least had a career in semi pro or Europe. Basketball players certainly get laid more than engineers. But he chose to be an engineer. The real question is, "do men get laid because they do these things? or do they do these things to get laid?" Don't you guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:53 PM
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They've been beaten out for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:51 PM
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I hear this term a lot not just in feminist spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:50 PM
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That's why I said "beyond high school." And haven't you seen the scenario where a dumb bitch took a photo of some NFL player who took her home? A groupie (or whatever you kids call them these days) is kinda not representative of most women. If the sex is so shitty with an ONS, why do women have them? I'll tell you why. For the validation and affirmation. To affirm her "worth" and "value" as a woman. Pretty sure I already answered this yesterday. Women feel more affirmation of their value from ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:48 PM
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I do not believe it's because women want their hookups with ONSs to turn into relationships. That's a lifetime move stalker fantasy. No woman in her right mind goes into a ONS trying to get a relationship. I'm not saying it never ever happens but it's not at all common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:05 PM
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Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:01 PM
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I thought Netflix and chill was code for guys who want to get laid without having to spend money or put in any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:44 AM
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Married to engineer for 11 years so I've observed quite a few of them in my life. My husband and most of his engineer peers and coworkers love their jobs. They live for fixing things and problem solving and the mental challenge. They chose to major in engineering in college when girls wouldn't give the engineering nerds the time of day. Most of them do get married but I assure you they didn't become engineers to get sex and they certainly wouldn't rather be living in the woods or working easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:41 AM
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Personally I deeply love women and all three of their great holes so I choose to invest into one. One hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:19 AM
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Funny because yesterday everyone was saying men did these things to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:11 AM
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Not really. Violence for example has to be regulated for the good of society. That's not anti male, that's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:05 AM
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There are no attributes of masculinity that are mutually beneficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:54 AM
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Here's a theory from someone on the other side of the hill. Harmless teasing and practical jokes are fun. We do ALOT of this as kids and less and less as we get older. As we get older and more boring and everyone around us gets more boring, we want to laugh and have fun. It makes us feel young again. We want to feel young. Seems pretty simple to me. No need to dress it up in dark triad nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:32 AM
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I think most women have had at least one but I don't think as many women have had tons of them like you think. My take is a) alcohol/drugs, the biggest reason, b) seeking ONS for the emotional comfort, c) living out a fantasy/taboo. Its not that women get absolutely nothing out of ONS it's just that women don't get the same things as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:07 AM
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I have two good friends in their 40s who've never been married and haven't dated much over the last decade. Both have some old baggage (absent/distant fathers, traumatic experiences from bad choices in men in their younger years, etc). Both are average to above average attractiveness, though one is little overweight, and neither is the drama/crazy type. I think the issue is that they don't really put themselves out there. When they have had dates and relationships, it's been with men who were th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:51 AM
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Which id bet is a joke unless they're actually in the pictures. Whether women have ONS is not up for debate. What is is the belief that we treat them the same way men do. We don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:32 AM
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Beyond high school, women don't do this. Women talk about sex sure but no one brags about ONS or N counts. and if it's not worth anything, then why do the vast, vast majority of women do this? Not to brag about it to her friends, that's for sure. I'm also not sure the "vast, vast majority of women" are having ONS regularly. the chance for a good hard cum. A very low chance. You obviously don't listen when women say consistently that orgasms during ONS for us are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:30 AM
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That you don't get sarcasm/exaggeration to make a point. Here's the problem: the fact that you have to explain to a guy that once he gets a girlfriend he doesn't get to chain her up the basement forever means he doesn't get how normal human interactions work in the first place. (EDIT: this is sarcasm/exaggeration to make a point.) There, fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:15 PM
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Proving my point...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:45 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:22 PM
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Triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:13 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:55 PM
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Bruh... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:12 PM
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British police still don't carry firearms, right? Or has that changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:12 PM
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Yeah ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:09 PM
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Prostitution should be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:05 PM
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It's based on ignorance though, racial politics in America is so different to what it is in Britain How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:22 PM
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Are there many BLM activists in the UK?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:18 PM
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I'm actually not a conservative, I support right-wing politics Mmmmmkay....how does that work? but they're not my parents either. Meaning? Aren't you in UK? Or am I confusing you with another poster?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:09 PM
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I'm not going to say you don't have a point but there's a parallel type of virtue signaling going on among conservatives who don't want to be seen as the uneducated bigoted white trash that the media and progressives are mocking. The ones now claiming they voted for Obama (even though they were still calling him a Muslim Kenyan socialist prior to Nov 8). The ones trying to legally and morally justify every incidence of murder by white police. The ones giving their own a pass with "but liberals a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:02 PM
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TBF you'd never know if some of the greatest men ever were in fact incels or asexual or whatever. I'm not denying it's human nature to want sex and want to be desired but I just meant that I don't believe men are as one dimensional as this (was it Dave chapelle who said if men could get sex living in a cardboard box no man would ever own a home--that's an exaggeration for the purpose of being funny but some take it seriously). It's problematic to me when it gets taken to the level of well if wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:32 AM
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So feminists are not demonizing male sexuality as is commonly believed but are actually demonizing society for encouraging aggressive male sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:34 AM
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Ok but you know it's a common trope around here that men are only motivated by sex. Yet when feminists say "men are only motivated by sex" TRPville loses its shit and cries misandry and says they're demonizing masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:09 AM
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I can't believe that a sizable portion of TRP is black American men. This would make it wildly different than the rest of the alt right and given the amount of racist shit that regularly gets posted i don't think in reality they're any different. Besides I don't think RP is really geared to address the unique dating/relationship problems that black American men have. risible ? Good word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:04 AM
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Here's the problem: the fact that you have to explain to a guy that once he gets a girlfriend he doesn't get to chain her up the basement forever means he doesn't get how normal human interactions work in the first place. Normally functioning people get the social contract of relationships: we like/love each other, express a commitment to each other and acknowledge that comes with some general principles we're both following while also understanding they are not obligated to be with us until the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:53 AM
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I love when the hamster accusers hamster
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:32 AM
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Lol. As if TRP and PPD aren't white bread and guilty of making assumptions and comments that actually are racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:13 AM
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But black African women and black American women/"Atlantic corridor black woman" are distinctly different, are they not? Isn't that what you were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:49 AM
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I think it's amusing this part of the thread started with a criticism of liberal/BP whites for assuming they understand black people and descended right into RP/conversative white people assuming they understand black people better. It doesn't surprise me Black people have such suspicion of UMC Whites What is your basis for this belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:15 AM
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common black/african views Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:12 AM
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Many of the hottest button issues on PPD and TRP - N count/sluts, Chad, stereotypical "alphas" and "betas," hypergamy - boil down not to personal opinion or man vs. woman, but to the big differences in SES, geographic location, or culture/religion. I agree 110%. I'm UMC from the liberal northest (have been my whole life) and much of what I read here seems totally foreign to me. To the point it has caused me to question my own judgement. Other than the travel thing, all of your points are relatab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:03 AM
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Getting laid is literally the only thing that motivates men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:52 AM
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I am really skeptical about this theory that all great men only achieved greatness because they were trying to get laid. I mean weren't most inventions sparked by humans need for survival? Men only want to get rich to get sex? You're telling me the guys the pulled off the Y2k scam and the subprime mortgage fiasco were like "fuck making millions, I just want fuck that hot 20 year old at Starbucks."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:42 AM
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I am really old
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:33 AM
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Soooo... you think only women who you want to date should be able to judge you by your count yet you feel entitled to simultaneously judge all women on the planet by their counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 02:56 AM
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You sound like that kid who told me in 8th grade that a guy can tell if a girl is a virgin by the way she walks. He also said jerking off gives you acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 02:35 AM
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Approaching men for most women is a ticket to pump and dump town Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:35 AM
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Flirting is generally, and for all intents and purposes, meaningless. It can literally mean anything, nd is a piss poor gauge for actual interest. Wow really??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:33 AM
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Does it not count as cheating if you bought it? Cause any married man can pay a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:23 AM
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I think he means: betas who don't hold frame and dread game her shit tests are more likely to be cheated on. I read the sidebar 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:21 AM
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Self improvement by nature self selects, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:11 AM
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I know. Sucks to be judged by your number doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:52 PM
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But if women say slutty men are low value then they are. The TRP argument is always that men not women decide what is high value in women (derksoldier said as much) and they decided sluts are low value. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 01:16 PM
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What's your count?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 01:13 PM
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Even in a world that's dangerously overpopulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:00 AM
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By people ... you mean men too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:08 AM
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What if she's a virgin and unable to " parlay her sexual power/appeal into a relationship with a man of sufficient value and attractiveness such that the relationship has a reasonable chance of surviving the usual and customary stresses a relationship suffers during its lifetime?" Still a slut? What if she "parlays her sexual power/appeal into a relationship with a man of sufficient value and attractiveness such that the relationship has a reasonable chance of surviving the usual and customary s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 01:40 AM
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Right :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 01:31 AM
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Ok but it is true that women bodies age evolved to store more fat to endure pregnancy in harsh conditions. That's not inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:53 AM
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There's a poster in the kitchen/break room at my office showing the difference between portion sizes in 1960 and today. Most items are 3x the size now. Even a standard dinner plate is bigger, they used to be 8" and are now 12". I grew up in the 80’s and overweight kids were rare, obese even more rare. It was partly because we consumed smaller portions and less junk food passing as meals, we were more active (I remember when PE class was a real thing) but I also grew up in an environment where pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:46 AM
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what happened to self respect? Sandberg here is stating that a man who does not think highly of women is a wonderful dating prospect. Did she? Because I didn't see that in what you posted. She is definitely saying BB and it is blatantly obvious when she gets to "trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.” This is negotiated attraction "over time" No she's not. Saying marry your equal is not BB. The second B is bucks. You either don't understand BB or you're stuck on how a woman can be attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:35 AM
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Yes but of course how men look doesn't matter. Unless a TRP is trying to explain why he can't get a date then it's women only want the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:33 AM
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because by even stating that she is saying that the bad boys by definition DO NOT want an equal partner, they do not want women to be smart, opinionated, etc. They just want to fuck. Which is why she's saying date one, not marry one. The reality is that nearly women will date a bad boy at least once in her life, usually unintentionally. But the premise here is don't think you can change a bad boy into a good husband because you can't. The BB offers more than cash, he also is basically a doormat …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:24 AM
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Women thrive on ambiguity (an absolute fact that cannot be argued), LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:48 AM
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I understand that. What I'm saying is how can someone claim "date/marry your equal" is an example of BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:42 AM
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Yes but the problem is if you lack emotional intelligence and social skills, you have trouble dialing it back because you can't pick up on people's social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:40 AM
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But if you made 300k marrying a guy who makes 50k wouldn't be Beta bucks would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:35 AM
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I'm unsure why people are so upset about this. As if every one here (minus the incels) hasn't dated someone at one time or another they had no interest in being with long term. Dating used to be about just that: finding out what you like, are attracted to and what makes a good match for you. TRPs talk about spinning plates and tell men never get locked down and then lose their shit over an article suggesting that women consider dating men they're not going to marry. Smdh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:18 AM
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How is advising women to marry their equals BB? I though BB was marrying a stable guy specifically for his money. If I am his equal, I don't need his money. How is advising women to date for fun a problem, especially when men are routinely told to date for fun before settling down? You all really need to come to terms with the fact that your innocent virgin bride is a pipe dream. She's going to have had boyfriends and sexual partners before you. If you can't handle that, don't date but stop acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 01:10 AM
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You can prefer anything you want. Free country. But if you prefer young, hot, dumb, lazy, vapid eye candy and are stupid enough to be surprised when she trades up in 5 years and takes all of your shit with her when she goes, the jokes on you. rigid and autistic feminist LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:58 AM
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You're not addressing my point. If you only want looks and youth, both of which are rapidly depreciating assets, you're essentially investing in something that will be worthless in a few years but you haven't seen much return on your investment. You also haven't addressed how either has anything to do with a good faithful marriage. For all the bitching and moaning RPers do about miserable marriages and divorce rape, you'd think they'd figure out that smoking hot means very little if you're in it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:41 AM
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I'm not sure how old you are but in my day very few women went totally hairless. This was before massive proliferation of Internet porn. In my teens, I shaved (for aesthetic reasons having to do with the sports I participated in) and boys used to act shocked or weirded out when they saw it. I would imagine now a man would be shocked upon seeing hair at all. It's all about what's seen as normal based on what's trendy. If you really want to get freaked out watch a porn from the 70s. Like, damn, ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:33 AM
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The tight young body is going to age. Then what? So if you believe a woman's only value is in her youth and beauty, which are going to fade, then men are willing to gamble their assets and entire future on an asset that is guaranteed to depreciate? Doesn't sound too smart to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:19 AM
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That attract a man, yes. What does that have to do with maintaining a good and faithful marriage though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:11 AM
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Studies show men who aren't assholes get laid "far less" with less attractive women?? The real problem is the inability to understand there's a world of difference between NiceGuyTM and asshole. To a TRP men can only exist in one of two states: spineless simp or raging sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:07 AM
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Not following
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:59 PM
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A 30 year old is old to a 20 year old woman with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:55 PM
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I don't understand this mentality. Why are your younger years your best years? In the context of marriage, most 30 somethings can have healthy children. And a 30 something woman actually theoretically brings more to the table emotionally and economically. So what about her youth is so valuable she "gives it" to a man like it's a prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 11:54 PM
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For OP's argument to be true wouldn't you need a large percentage of younger women willing to marry older divorced men? I don't think that exists. Maybe it used to be true when women needed male provisioning but not so much anymore. For your argument to work, women would have to be using marriage and divorce as a sexual strategy, meaning divorced women would wind up better off after the divorce which is not the case. Women's net worth goes down after a divorce and fewer women get remarried than …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 06:26 PM
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What does divorce have to do with sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 06:13 PM
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You didn't read it. Or chose to ignore it. If the contract breach is your issue, why not say the divorcing party has to pay the others legal fees? Or has to pay a contract breach penalty? Why use the children as property/pawns? Oh right because you "don't care about the kids." My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 06:02 PM
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Did you even read my last comment? whats WRONG with it is the NO FAULT part. the person abandoning the agreement should pay damages to the NONBREACHING party, if anything. Fine. But that has nothing to do with the fact that kids need food, clothes, school supplies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:48 PM
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We're talking about child support, not alimony, right? i dont care about the kids, thats HER responsibility. Actually kids are both their responsibility, married or not. You all act like kids don't have needs and expenses because mom and dad don't want to be together anymore. it should be hard to divorce for no reason and the person breaking the agree ment should bear the consequences. Should it? You should be the arbiter of what a "good" reason divorcing is? What's wrong with a 50/50 split of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:40 PM
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If a woman divorces without fault the father shouldn't have to support his kids. That's what you meant right? Meaning you think if you make it harder for women when divorcing they're less likely to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:20 PM
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You encourage female dependency on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:11 PM
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Lol. Y'all crack me up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:09 PM
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Mmkay. I'll drink to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:08 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:01 PM
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If a man isn't a threat to his kids should he pay ANY child support if the woman has full custody? Kids still have needs that require money, if even you aren't with their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 02:01 PM
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be required to work hard and sacrifice (men pay way more taxes than women) and for no family, no love or relationships and no one caring. Men are not allowed to desire these things without being considered entitled, as your point proves Desiring these things does not make you entitled. Desiring women does not make you entitled. Entitled is believing women's bodies are a reward for your achievements, or some kind of consolation prize for your efforts, and lashing out at us when you realize we hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:22 AM
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❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:39 PM
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If they don't understand by now that you cannot ask your wife to sacrifice her career for the family and walk away without any rehabilitative money for her to earn a career then they are deliberately ignorant. This. I had a go-round with him last week with him insisting that companies should fire women after they have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 11:16 PM
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How sweet are you flirting with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:39 PM
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Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 10:13 PM
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Um...good....????
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:49 PM
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TIL communism failed because pussy. You guys need to pick which story you want to go with: do women want hard working successful men or do women want bad boy thug sociopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:46 PM
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Yes homophobes definitely make me tingle in the nether region. Nothing on that list is about female sexual attraction. Financial and social status is about opportunism not attraction. Besides, when women make their own money and don't want a man for his status, you call us emasculating unfeminine careerist cunts and call for the government to ban us from working and ration out our p***s. Funny thing is men are constantly reinforcing these concepts of masculinity. Men telling other men and boys "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:55 PM
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Invented by Biden? The term deadbeat dads has been around for over 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:26 PM
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No no NO! It's all women's fault!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:22 PM
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I'm all for sexbots for this very reason. And because they don't spread diseases. Everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:11 PM
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It wasn't my theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:06 PM
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Thank you. Good suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 02:05 PM
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Not nearly as much though. And only in exchange for other resources. I know it makes you all feel better to believe this but I'm going to argue another point. If being a douche is far more attractive to women, and Men are desperate for women and a large part of their behavior serves to attract women. Then why isn't every guy a violent criminal? Why does any guy bother to work hard, stay out of trouble, and not beat every man, woman and child he sees? It's funny you immediately get uncomfortable …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 01:57 PM
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This wasn't you? It's funny how feminists and their sidekicks in the academia take every single opportunity to chide men and "toxic" masculinity, but always ignore the elephant in the room - that men wouldn't even think about pulling all that shit if it wouldn't get them pussy. If you want men to change into being more emotional, feminine, laid-back, relaxed, cooperative instead of competitive etc., start by brainwashing women into considering that shit incredibly sexually attractive. Until then…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 01:52 PM
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TIL the most successful, visionary, creative and commanding men in history would have been killers if some woman had not popped their cherries. I always thought the reason for working was to keep a roof over one's head and food on the table. TIL food, shelter and air are optional but sex is not. being shat on TIL women are to blame for unemployed aimless men because we failed in our God given duty to validate them with our vaginas. TIL not fucking on demand is shitting on men, and they're not go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 08:21 AM
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<3 the melodrama Society will collapse and you'll be eating dirt if you don't start fucking those revolting guys in the corner over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 08:03 AM
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Better yet, you can look through my comment history and see the many occasions where I've been critical of feminists and the reasons why. But they happen to have a point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:45 AM
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Right. I'm a woman (therefore I must be a feminist) and a woman can't ever have compassion for any human who is male. Men and women can't feel each other's pain and sympathize. And men and women certainly can't share universal feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness, even if for different reasons. Cuz, oh yeah, women always have it easy. Typical response Id expect from an MRA type. You have concern for suffering boys and men to the extent you can use their circumstances to point the finger at…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:22 AM
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And I am telling you: You can't. You can't feel the compassion I describe for pre-adolescent and adolescent guys. Why can't I feel compassion for them? People who for whatever reason do feel compassion for them need to come together and work out a plan. Nobody can come up with a plan like that on their own. (Could include lessons at school for example). The implementation of this plan needs to be funded by the government. So you're quick to throw out any solutions posed by feminists but don't ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:29 AM
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That's too vague. Your argument seems to be that there's a generation of boys out there feeling worthless and hopeless and they're suffering alone because they don't have anyone to talk to because the code of masculinity demands they be stoic and project strength, but you disagree with feminists that it's largely men policing other men around this dynamic and that poor male role models reinforcing this dynamic is a major problem. So I'm asking you -- I want to know in concrete terms how I can he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 06:05 AM
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First problem I have with this is that men who don't act like douches still get laid. Second problem I have with this is it places the blame for shitty behavior by men on women. "I would stop being an abusive, reckless, alcoholic, fighting, chest beating asshole if women would just stop fucking me."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:55 AM
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What does "having compassion" mean? Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:44 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:35 AM
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So why in your opinion does society tell boys to be masculine at all costs? Since feminists have it all wrong. Why are they hurting and have no place they can talk about it? What needs to be done to help them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:26 AM
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You missed the implication which is that Women had plenty to do (caring for children, maintaining the home, cooking, caring for the sick and infirm, etc) but men not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:15 AM
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About as good a theory as "without money everyone can have the best of everything"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 05:00 AM
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No way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:56 AM
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Can't find it anywhere and can't remember where I heard it. Of course animals had many other uses, fur to keep them warm, skin to make items to carry shit it, etc. So did they kill animals for food and discover the other uses or did they kill them for other uses and one day though, I wonder if i fried this leg how it would taste?...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:41 AM
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There's a theory that the only reason humans are meat eaters is because cave men needed something to do so they hunted. Humans could have been herbivores. Money was created to maintain class structure not gender differences. Otherwise we could have maintained a barter system forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 04:27 AM
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It's mom and dads fault I can't get laid. This is a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:29 PM
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¯_ (ツ) _/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 09:02 PM
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The traditionalists versus progressives dynamic has exists since humans have existed. This is not new. Traditionalists fight change because they have more to lose from it, progressives fight for change because they believe society (and they themselves) will be better off for it. Neither is 100% right and the tension between the two actually serves to keep society more or less balanced in the middle (or should, anyway). SJWs are simply the new hippies, beatniks, flappers, etc. Nothing new here ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:59 PM
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Wut the fuq was that??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 05:41 PM
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Is there a scientific basis for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:55 PM
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Blue pill to me just seems like a lot of people having fun mocking TRPs. Not necessarily radical anti-male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:27 PM
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Men's attraction disappears too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:23 PM
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I don't see it negatively or positively. I just see it as their choice to live their life they way they want. I'm personally not religious but I respect religious people who actually practice what they preach, which is extremely rare. If I were single I might date a guy with these values but would hesitate to be in a LTR headed toward marriage because I don't know if marrying someone without knowing if you're sexually compatible is a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:12 PM
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But it's always a man, and he always makes sure even the fattest, oldest, ugliest, most infirm, and poorest woman is shielded from the worst life has to offer. Wonder why then: Fat women make less than fat men Older women are more likely than older men to live in poverty There are more poor women than poor men This shit. Why discussions of legit ways men actually do get screwed will never get taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:31 AM
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I'd say if anything it's a holdover from our more primitive days. Women of reproductive age are critical to a tribe's survival and the 40 week gestation period and high risk of miscarriage and still birth meant women could only have so many babies in a lifetime, while men could theoretically father hundreds of children. The best way I heard it put: a few men and a lot of women could repopulate a village within a generation. A few women and a lot of men, not so much. Yes society still places wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:13 PM
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Machiavellian LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:53 PM
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That's not what makes them misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:00 PM
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If you all expect to have anything in life with no problems, no complaints, exactly the way you want it, then you need to adjust your expectations. That's really the nicest way I can say it. That goes for anyone of any gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:26 PM
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I read that all the time. On this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:43 PM
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I have heard --countless times --TRPs say LITERALLY 80 (sometimes 90) percent of men LITERALLY don't have sex, don't date and "don't pass on their genes." You know this so please stop defending the insanity. BTW is it possible for men to be in an unhappy marriage and it be partially or mostly his fault? Cause you kinda sound like male unhappiness = females fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:58 PM
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You seem to be saying all of the research is invalid because some men aren't happily married. What it shows is that in general married men fare better than single ones. I'm pretty sure most people would chose to be single over being in a bad marriage headed toward divorce. Besides I think OP was making a false argument from the beginning. When people say "most men are married," "most men are having sex" it's in response to TRPs trying to convince us that 80/90% of men cant get sex and are reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 07:41 AM
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A fact is a fact. But can facts be reflective outcomes in a sexist society? It's a fact that 94% of ceos are male. But why? It's a fact that women earn 77 cents to the dollar than men do. But why? It's a fact that women are underrepresented in STEM fields. But why? Hint: the answer to all of these questions is far more complicated than most people who identify themselves by pill color are willing to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:53 AM
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TIL too that employers pay married men more than everyone else because their wives spend it too fast. Your married coworker probably works more overtime because those perky things called kids cost a shitload of money. These days you have to start saving for college before they're born.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:54 AM
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married men are the highest-paid employees, far outpacing women and unmarried men Do a google search and you'll find hundreds of hits saying the same thing. But hey TIL married women are unhappy because they're fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:20 AM
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Because if women have fewer options to support themselves they're forced to seek men for support. If I had a dollar for every TRP I've seen say that women shouldn't work, should be forced to chose between work and motherhood, should lose their jobs when they have children, etc I could retire now. They believe their biggest obstacle is women having choice, because they aren't choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:12 AM
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Is your counter that never married men are better off than divorced men? Ya think? Married men in fact are healthier than men who've never been married. And I think the CMV posed was that married men are not happier and not having more sex. Research shows the opposite. Believe it or not, I'm not pro marriage. I think marriage in the 21st century carries a lot of baggage that's at odds with the worldview of younger generations. I think long-term cohabitation will become more common, as it is in E…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:02 AM
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I'm not sure /u/LewisCross cares about such details.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:51 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:19 AM
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Yeah and an upper class white woman was at a lower, less privileged level than an upper class white man. So what? The upper class always plays by a different set of rules and they're such a small percentage of the population trying to use them as standard for how women were historically treated is a totally disingenuous argument. You're acting like sexism, racism and classism can't co-exist in a society. Did you grow up in America? And how are those terms misused?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:06 AM
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Explain Please :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:11 AM
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/u/LewisCross considers himself RP (its in his flair) and his solution to making the SMP fairer for men like him is to restrict women's sexuality. Are you telling me his views are at odds with RP, even though he considers himself RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:08 AM
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Studies have found that married people have more sex than single people Married men are happier than single men Men who have marital partners also live longer than men without spouses What else ya got?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:05 AM
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Please do share your take on " the male side of it."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:55 PM
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Then why is it on your list of how society should "resinstate cultural restraints on women's sexuality?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:51 PM
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It's about giving up something that's not valuable You don't get to decide what's valuable to other people. makes them unhappy You don't get to decide what makes people happy or unhappy. in exchange for something better You don't get to decide what's better. What I wrote doesn't restrict anyone from anything Right. That was the other LewisCross posting that comment, not you. My bad. my regime LOL I don't understand why Blues I'm not blue. I'm black. are so hostile to the idea of judgment and con…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:46 PM
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And your answer was restrict women's sexuality and career/life choices. It's right there in black and white. It's what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:47 PM
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Which all boils down to take away women's rights and freedoms so they're forced to date a guy like me to survive. Do you really think that little of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:38 PM
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Read my comment again and see if you get it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:53 PM
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Trust me I do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:41 PM
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So in other words you have no interest in trying to back up or defend an argument you made. You just want to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:38 PM
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Go back to the OP, read the 2nd definition (that he provided) for patriarchy and then scroll down and read my examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:35 PM
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Racism wasn't mentioned in the constitution. Guess it never existed. Classism wasn't mentioned in the constitution. Guess that never existed either. You just invalidated your own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:42 PM
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And she's how old?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:39 PM
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How exactly does this relate to your belief that women and poor people should not vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:37 PM
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I think you might want to reread the definitions of patriarchy you put in your own OP and revise this. And...because American society was also racist and classist means it can't also have been patriarchal? Your basis for this belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:36 PM
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Who exactly are you trying to convince?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:23 PM
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And you think short sightedness is problem caused solely by poor people voting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:20 PM
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Whoosh!!! The sound of this going right over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:29 PM
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I think you'll find few people that won't admit there are some women out there making really bad choices and their children and society as a whole are paying for it. But that's not all single mothers. TRPs contempt for single mothers doesn't come from caring about what happens to the children. Just stop. These are the same men claiming they shouldn't have to raise children they fathered because they were too lazy to use protection. These are the same men bitching about having to pay child suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:10 PM
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Opinion? That states were allowed to bar women from voting is my opinion? That married women weren't allowed to own property is my opinion too? That women could get fired for being pregnant is my opinion? That women were prohibited from serving on juries ... also just my opinion? Apparently lots of folks share my incorrect opinions. Including the US government. Loving this "post-truth" world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:02 PM
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Like when I told you that white women were 3 times more likely to be raped by a white man than a man of any other race and you got pissy with me and tried every attempt to invalidate that fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:45 PM
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The problem here is opinion is too often passed off as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:41 PM
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There's also no dispute that Black scores in America have been rising, and they far outperform African scores. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:39 PM
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Anyone who can say with a straight face that America was never a patriarchal society doesn't know their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:31 PM
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Uh...so if a woman can't be a mother she can't vote??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:24 AM
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I'm college educated. People who aren't college educated shouldn't vote. They lack the intellectual capacity to understand the issues and since I earn more over time that means I pay more taxes than them so my vote should count for waaaaay more. Only atheists should be allowed to vote. It's all the religious fanatics that start all the wars and we can't afford any more so those people should only be allow to vote if they renounce their fake gods and promise to sleep in on Sundays. I live on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:13 AM
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-to-avoid-women/ https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/overwhelming-disgust-for-women/ https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-smart-mgtows-guide-to-women-to-absolutely-avoid/ Appreciate your POV but I don't think is a new conversation only happening on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:03 AM
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MGTOWs don't advise men to avoid women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:41 PM
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How does a man going his own way still date? That doesn't make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:32 PM
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Cliches hustled by people trying to sell books and airtime. It's just not the reality of how most women talk these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:30 PM
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Are we actually agreeing on something? I don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:23 PM
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Mine did but 1) we're Xers not millennials, 2) our subsequent dates were creative and fun yet inexpensive and 3) we knew each other socially for a while before we ever dated, he wasn't gambling on some chick with a doctored photo and bullshit profile on POF.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:23 PM
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She considers herself an independent BTW
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:05 PM
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MK is an independent, but here's where he does have a point. Conservatives have made a concerted effort in recent years to find attractive women to peddle right wing views: Ann coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, largely to court conservative working class men. None of these women are well spoken or even smart, so you tell me what you think that's all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 11:03 PM
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Isn't that more MGTOW than RP though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:32 PM
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Pretty sure women approaching 40 who haven't met "the one" to have children with have long since adjusted their expectations. You all act like women aren't told our entire lives about our biological clocks, about focusing too much on our careers, etc. Believe me if a woman is in her late 30s she's already done the math and has a plan B. It's just revenge porn for RPers and puas to imagine these women were caught off guard and are crying themselves to sleep every night over how they ruined their …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:31 PM
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There are also a billion articles written by women about his "secret turn ons" and "how to lose 50 pounds in a week." Surely you can recognize trying to sell magazines when you see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:46 PM
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I honestly haven't heard a woman IRL say where are all the good men since I was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:44 PM
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So if its about divorce laws and custody ...what are TRPs doing to address those issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:32 PM
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How exactly is circle jerking revenge porn about women hitting the wall and dying miserable with their cats stopping the suffering of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:30 PM
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I would agree. Even a liberal like me can tick off the list of the democrats failed anti poverty policies of the last 50 years with little problem. But that wasn't what I was asking you about. You said society bends over backwards to accommodate women at the expense of men. I asked if you include all women in that assessment, to which you replied "in some cases yes." So I'm interested to hear how you believe society bends over backwards to accommodate women of color and LBT, immigrant and disabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:05 PM
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Does this apply to all women? Are some women more privileged than others? Does society "bend over backwards" more for a black/Latina/poor/immigrant/disabled woman than a white man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:59 PM
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You know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:52 AM
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"Yet, as black person I'm still 'guilty' of 'others sins' in many people's opinion. Like I should feel bad about 'black criminality/poverty' I didn't ask for it and I didn't 'commit any crimes/have a bunch of babies of welfare', yet here I am taking the slack for it all the same." I can relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:42 AM
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I've only been around here for a couple of months and this is like the 3rd time I've seen somebody ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:52 AM
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So a person can have a privilege that has zero influence on their life? OK so you know how people always say women get lighter sentences for committing the same crimes as men? I've never committed a crime. That privilege doesn't exist for me, so therefore I guess it doesn't exist at all. A thing does exist even though you and I as individuals may not be directly affected by it. This is known in the manosphere as solipsism. nor do I think they ever really were intentional I don't know. States pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:20 PM
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Ok, so "tall privilege". Does a tall man who is not interested in getting married, is not financially ambitious, and who works for himself (and so can't be promoted) enjoy "tall privilege"? The privilege is still there isn't it? Short men are still facing discrimination, aren't they? The tall man can still take advantage of this privilege if he chooses, can't he? since I'm not even close to alt-right Did I suggest you are alt right? I don't think I did. The data shows whites and blacks are treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:16 PM
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White conservatives said in 2008 Obama lacked enough political experience to be president. White conservatives in 2016 voted for Trump despite him having zero political experience. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/party-that-mocked-presidents-lack-of-experience-favors-one-with-no-experience-whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:43 PM
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That implies that it is something that it resides with that person. No it doesn't. You are misinterpreting the concept. Let's take the example of taller than average men. Research shows that taller men are more likely to be married, and they make more money and get promoted more often. This is because of a favorable bias society as whole has toward tall men. Society's unfavorable bias toward short men is not the fault of tall men. Providing the tall men are not engaging in the same bias. So the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:27 PM
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For example, does a white person who's never applied for a a job still enjoy the privilege that you've described? You seem to be interpreting the example as guilt resting on the white person who is privileged rather than the hiring manager who is biased. That's a misinterpretation. The systematic attempt to disenfranchise a group. (My bold). I think this definition relies too much on intention and therefore sets up oppression to be either the result of a grand conspiracy or non-existent. Disenfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:54 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anti-discrimination_acts Yes it is. NOT so good for you, it is not illegal to discriminate based on stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:36 AM
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I love when people think they're disproving my point while actually proving it. Thanks. Or maybe you're just trying to troll me. Didn't work. Don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:27 AM
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Do you have the link to that study by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:43 AM
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I don't like people with weird ethnic names for that reason ....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:43 AM
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So if there are no statistics, how do you know there have been so many false arrests that ruined the lives of so many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:16 AM
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This is the very definition of privilege. Benefitting from it while simultaneously denying it exists. Yes people will break the law but that doesn't mean we should let them get away with it just because "it doesn't affect me." And not for nothing but your grandparents could get away concealing their heritage because with Anglo names their kids can pass for white Americans. I don't have that option. Poor comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:10 AM
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What are the statistics on false arrests?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:57 AM
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No one has the right to discriminate against someone because of their name. Discrimination is illegal. So you know. Imagine I'm the hiring manager. I see your son's resume and think, well, based on his name he sounds white. I don't want to hire a white person because I think they're going to be racist towards me and other staff members and it's going to cause problems. I'm not going to interview him. That would be OK by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:45 AM
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Do the study. I'd love to see the results. But clearly there is still a bias when comparing white to black.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:12 AM
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Useful idiot, lol. At least I'm useful. Here's what I know. The Duluth Model is an intervention model to rehabilitate batterers with intent of keeping them out of jail and preventing future violence. It focuses on violence committed against women by men. It addresses DV from a perspective that violence is used by men to control women and that society doesn't do enough for victims because it doesn't take violence against women seriously. And guess what? In 1980, when the DM came about, it didn't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:00 AM
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My guess is you'd be right. But you're ignoring that it also clearly reflects racial bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:36 PM
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Of course women can be abusers and men who are victims aren't treated the same. But I could have told you without using the Duluth model that you're an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:33 PM
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Totally incorrect interpretation of the Duluth model. You guys don't even know what it is do you? It's just something you read on TRP once and it sounded good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:28 PM
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I think s/he means disadvantged in broader sense than ability to have casual sex with attractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:46 PM
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I always appreciate when people stop to ask what the conversation around privilege and oppression mean instead of just dismissing it, so thank you. What is privilege? Advantages conferred based on membership in a certain group. For example, the study that showed HR people are 50% more likely to invite a person with a white sounding name for an interview than a person with a black sounding name with the same qualifications. What is oppression? The systematic attempt to disenfranchise a group. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:44 PM
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"You have developed social skills that make you ignore invisible barriers and idiots who want you to act a certain way." I don't understand this statement. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:32 PM
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The thing is we've been voting for "change" since the 80s while incomes, prosperity, jobs, and quality of life have been steadily declining under both parties. I saw so many interviews asking people why they voted for Trump -- many said they wanted a "change" (which is what many poeple said about Obama in 2008) but couldn't articulate what change they expected to occur that would benefit them. It's pretty clear to me that people don't trust either party but are clueless as to what to do to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:29 PM
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do not add feelings to this, I care only for the facts. Yet you haven't provided any facts yourself. Can you share some examples of: -gender quotas -laws that benefit women (but not men) -additional government spending (I know of one but would like to hear your examples) -divorce laws -government programs I'd mostly like to hear how these advantages contribute to advancing women academically and economically in ways that are unfair to men, as you are claiming. you guys can sit down and relax at …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:02 PM
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Yes. In high school it was very common for everyone, boys and girls, to lie up about sexual partners. By the time I was 20 it wasn't even a topic of conversation. I take it from what I read here that in lower ranking social circles, men are pretty obsessed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:32 PM
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You know, about this country of yours where only men pay taxes, only women use services, where a woman can become a firefighter or police officer by taking an easier test than the one administered to men, where every woman is a literally "a princess who never has to suffer" and every man is literally mandated by the government to be a slave, where children are "benefits" that don't need food and shelter, they're just there for me to extort money from men, I don't think I'd like to live there. Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:17 PM
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Corporations should not be denied their right to fire people who become less productive due to personal choice. OK. If that means fewer women chose to have children at all due to fear of losing their jobs, are you OK with that? Because you do realize that most women who work do it because they need the money, right? Well, the argument is that the reason why women aren't seen as equals , why they don't get taken seriously is because of these law that forces people to give women special treatment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:23 AM
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You haven't lost your kids, my apologies, but you are angry. I am vocal about my opinion regarding this issue in a space where I am allowed to be vocal about it. You are allowed to be vocal all you want. You are not, however, entitled to be protected from questioning and critique of or disagreement with your views. If what you're looking for is an echo chamber, go back out the way you came and take a right at TheRedPill. If not... What exactly is your argument and solution? First you're complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:33 PM
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Look, I'm sorry you lost your kids but why should you get to dictate everyone else's choices just because you're angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:59 PM
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Yes and no. I'm not really aware there is a "sisterhood" beyond anti-feminist men using the term as pejorative. Women are pretty divided by a lot of things. That said, I can sympathize with some of the common issues women face, and for that reason, I sometimes find myself cheering more for the woman running the race than the man (I don't literally mean this presidential race so don't try to berate me with "you voted for Hilary because she has a vagina!" Bernie Sanders doesn't have one to my know…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:08 PM
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"Can you believe those sub human minorities called me a racist??"
/r/TheRedPill12/11/16 06:21 PM
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"Yeah, Ivanka's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father..." That's sexual and it's preverted to want to fuck your daughter. TRP: "I just don't get why women think I'm creepy...must be cuz feminists."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:57 PM
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Having a job doesn't make you educated or reliable. Education is correlated to higher income which is correlated to more economic and social stability. This isn't a moral judgment on people who don't go to college, it's a statistical fact. Do you have any idea how many educated men I've seen opt out of having a decent career because they feel like a slave who work and has their money given to someone else? But you're advocating for exactly that by insisting that women who want to be mothers chos…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:22 PM
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So you basically want the most educated and reliable segment of society to opt out of having children because they fear losing their jobs and leave the child bearing to those not working and on public assistance when statistically their children are far more likely to end up poor and in prison? Good plan. Only 4 states offer anything above FMLA and none offer pay at 100%. And how are only men "paying for their choice?" Women don't work and pay taxes? And unless I have a job in the public sector …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:37 AM
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Nothing. Women don't bring anything to the table. Men don't bring anything to the table. Individuals bring assets to the table. Or they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:38 AM
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hypoagency Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 08:05 PM
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Repeating: I'll respond when you show proof to back up the claim that a significant number of white men are being silenced by violence for voting for trump. Do you not understand the concept providing facts to back up your arguments? Unless you can produce proof, stop going in circles and wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:44 PM
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I'll address it when you provide proof that a significant number of white men are being beaten for voting for trump. You can post that video as many times as you want, it's still one incident. Through maybe I didn't watch the video close enough cause I missed the part where the feminists were beating up the white guy. Cause that's what we were talking about that you all keep refusing to address right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:25 PM
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LewisCross said that because of feminists women can say and do whatever they want but men can't. Nothing he posted in response to my prompt for proof to back up his statement, not the video or anything else, even remotely addresses his point. Instead of just admitting he can't back up his statement and his ramblings are nothing more than sexist hyperbole, he posts a video of a white man getting beat up by black kids and tries to claim it's not an isolated incident (despite any evidence to prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:02 PM
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Maternity leave is not paid in the US unless your employer willingly pays it. Most women take maternity leave under the Family Medical Leave Act, which guarantees that your employer can't fire you if you need to take up to 12 weeks of UNPAID leave for an emergency or medical issue impacting you and a family members. That could be having a baby, having chemo, caring for your terminally ill father, the list goes on. Men and women are equally eligible for FMLA.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:32 PM
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Why don't you share with us what your personal contribution to the greatness of society is. You're a man right? And men "built fought and bled to create society" right? I'm listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:25 PM
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Where exactly did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 03:58 PM
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Yes I saw the video. I also saw this http://qz.com/833607/us-election-a-rash-of-racist-attacks-have-broken-out-in-the-us-after-donald-trumps-victory/ https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/post-election-hate-crimes-and-fears-trnd/index.html So I get it now. What LewisCross is talking about when he says "white men aren't allowed to say anything" -- "anything" apparently means hate speech/crimes directed at minorities and women. Otherwise why are we going back and forth trading stories about people usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 03:22 PM
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Is there a difference between sexist and misogynistic? Like is the guy who says "wow women suck at math" a sexist rather than a misogynist, and the guy who murdered 5 women because he thinks all women who won't give him sex deserve to die a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 01:44 AM
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It does. It's a person who hates women. Yes there are definitely people who hate women. There are misogynistic individuals and some misogynistic cultures and sometimes more egalitarian cultures that contain small elements of misogyny. I can't say I think believing women who enjoy sex are sluts is misogynistic per se, but an entire culture that imposes brutal punishment on women in attempts to control their sexuality especially when the same is not done to men are indeed misogynistic. I honestly …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 01:38 AM
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I'm not a misogynist or racist and even if I was I wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 12:18 AM
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that doesn't really provide a basis for justifying the different sets of rules for men and women I see TRPs around here advocating for. Fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 12:11 AM
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So...Your basis for the belief that men have been silenced by feminists and liberals is a string of videos pulled from a bing keyword search you did using the words "attack," "trump," and "Clinton" (most of which are actually news stories about the candidates "attacking" each other verbally during the campaign) which you are using to claim that untold numbers of Trump voters are being beaten and killed when no mainstream news outlet is covering it and best of all if doesn't even address the ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:06 PM
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And an independent party
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 09:08 PM
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All within the last 24 hours: http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/09/woman-wearing-hijab-attacked-at-san-jose-state/ http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/11/utah-man-charged-for-yelling-racial-slur-at-boy-attacking-father-with-a-stun-cane/ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ohio-man-pleads-guilty-hate-crime-attack-black-…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 08:18 PM
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Your seem to have a lot of trouble understanding class, race, etc. and the cultural, social and economic patterns that affect the trajectories of certain groups in the aggregate. Of course there have been poor people who became lawyers. But fewer than MC and far fewer than UMC. You're trying to argue that barriers have never really existed because people in the past managed to surmount them. Succeeding against the odds doesn't mean the odds aren't real. It also doesn't mean that everyone who did…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 08:05 PM
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I said RP women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:48 PM
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Older white men get physically attacked in urban areas by gangs because they are PERCEIVED to have voted Trump. Haven't seen this reported (not saying it's not true) but I have seen reports of racially motivated attacks against minorities in the last 24 hours. I'm not sure how this is proof though that "men can't say anything." My take is that if you feel like you can't speak your mind because every time you do people around you react negatively to it and to you, it's usually a good time to stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:45 PM
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Have you noticed that in all of your posts, you acknowledge the barriers that women as a whole faced but then dismiss it by saying "it's OK because they wanted to only be wives and mothers anyway?" You also seem to be recounting the experiences of MC/UMC women -- who were able to break past barriers a lot easier than poor and certainly minority women -- as the litmus test. lived their lives as slaves before 1970 No one's suggesting that. But you're just as guilty in exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:33 PM
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In fact, I think most men nowadays would look suspiciously at a woman who wants to stay at home all day long while the husband works all day long to bring home some money. Aren't most RP women strong advocates that women need to stay home, that society would be better off if women stayed home? IT IS A SCIENTIFICAL FACT I really love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:22 PM
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Beyond sex drive? Cause, you know, that doesn't really provide a basis for justifying the different sets of rules for men and women I see people around here advocating for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:20 PM
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Women can do and say anything they want, with or to anyone they want, anywhere they want, anytime they want Men can't? they have gotten men and government to pay for it. How's that? Taxes? Alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:13 PM
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I took issue with the way the argument was framed. How many times do I need to write this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:18 PM
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Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:16 AM
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I'm curious as to why you all who won are still so salty? If trump is going to fix everything, why y'all still so mad???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:59 AM
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State =/= society. I did not say "every state must have the same level of respect for abortion that abortion clinics are located within some arbitrary measurement of time and/or distance from each other within every state" or anything else you just wrote. I took issue with the way the argument was framed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:17 AM
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Where was I arguing that every society should have the same set of values?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:07 AM
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It's not about whether I "care" it's about why it's a federal law in the first place. That's like arguing that overturning Loving vs VA "wouldn't be so bad" because only some states would ban interracial marriage but not all. Kinda the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:03 AM
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So you're cool with poor women in Arkansas who can't afford to travel 500 miles to get an abortion to not have the same rights as women living in blue states? Snark not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:52 AM
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Even red states with evangelical majorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:26 AM
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Now, no. At some point in my past, yes. I guess I'm missing context here and why this is such a controversial question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:21 AM
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I need a little more info that that. For someone always criticizing everyone else as being intellectually inferior to you, I'd think you could frame your own arguments a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:04 AM
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No, I'm pointing out the combination of white male entitlement and misdirected resentment that is at the heart of everything that just happened in the last 24 hours and what has been brewing for years. If you truly believe in the free market, you can't believe that white men should be protected from competition simply because they are men and they are white. Entitlement. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:56 AM
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That's not class. And where is it written in stone that men should be exempt from competition when the competitor is female?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:52 AM
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A responsibility to do what? Allow middle class white men first pick of the good jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:50 AM
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So are poor Americans who encouraged their sons to get an education and become competitive in the workforce also "to blame" for "wage issues?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:43 AM
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Feminist are responsible for class divide between which classes? Be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:41 AM
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"Trump is" is your personal opinion Oh really? https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-decries-outsourced-labor-yet-he-didnt-seek-made-in-america-in-2004-deal/2016/03/13/4d65a43c-e63a-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html? http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/labor-board-trump-hotel-230720 https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/03/a-guide-to-all-of-donald-trumps-flip-flops-on-the-minimum-wage/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/powerpost/wp/2016/0…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:37 AM
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So what is your point? How did feminists betray their class?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:19 AM
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I didn't ask for your PERSONAL opinion on whether minimum wage is good or not -- the fact is many people need it. I asked for proof that feminists who you all blame for all of the angry white mans problems are in fact the ones responsible for undermining your ability to sell your labor for a competitive wage. Stop with the non sequiturs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:16 AM
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So your answer is that UMC/UC women betrayed UMC/MC men by going into the workforce and not leaving the jobs for men only? You're apparently unaware that the shifting to a service economy and the economic growth and tax revenue it generated in the latter half of the 20th century drew women in the workforce, and its architects were government and big business, not feminists. Traditionalists fucking kill me. Women taking jobs they're perfectly qualified for in a competitive free market economy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:05 AM
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You keep going to history and trying to extrapolate it to today. I'm calling BS. And when you want to answer my question and defend/prove your original point, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:24 PM
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Which has fuck all to do with my question. I'm waiting for someone to prove the erosion of financial security, rights and privileges that working class white men are screaming about is the fault of feminists. PROVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:20 PM
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I love people around here who never address your questions. I didn't ask for your opinion on minimum wage. I asked if you all truly believe feminists are really the ones eroding your rights and privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 11:17 PM
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I'd tell you to fuck off back but you've already fucked your self so badly it doesn't even matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:54 PM
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and in 4 years when the middle class isn't any better off and likely to be worse off, those good white folk will blame it on who?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:43 PM
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Answer me this: Are "feminists" outsourcing and eliminating your jobs? Trump is. Are "feminists" lobbying to weaken labor laws that keep wages low? Trump is. Do "feminists" want to eliminate minimum wage and tax breaks that benefit the middle class? Trump does (depending on which way the wind blows today, granted). Enjoy the celebration. It's gonna be short lived. You all just put more nails in your own coffin than "feminists" ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:40 PM
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In 2016, I said... Breeding =/= success or prosperity. If it does, please answer my original question and name a patriarchal society that is a) a world power, 2) has a strong middle class, 3) is a real democracy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:26 PM
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In 2016, what societies that oppress women are outperforming egalitarian societies?.... ..........? I guess they forgot to tell you the world is waaaay overpopulated. We're not living in caves anymore. Barring a mass infertility epidemic or another ice age, the women as breeders for the state model ain't coming back to the developed world anytime soon. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:18 AM
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e) don't be an uptight entitled sniveling prick who resents women for controlling what they do their vaginas That's really all one needs. The rest of it is smoke and mirrors for the epically gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 09:33 AM
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if there are all-female groups and no similar all-male group, and the all-female group gets any shared resources, What shared resources? There's so equivalent male group in your hypothetical scenario. it's a matter of simple math to demonstrate that women are getting a disproportionate amount of money. Yeah like 100%. So let's talk about when there are men's and women's groups so this argument can make sense again. And you do realize that sports blows your whole argument out of the water at most…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:05 AM
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hyperbole much?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:21 AM
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So provide a citation. One that shows all female groups get significantly more funding that all male groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:15 PM
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Women who act masculine are acting like men But you're claiming this is what makes men biologically men. So if women are regularly and consistently doing these things, meaning they can chose to achieve all of those things you claim are biological, then your biological construct of masculinity doesn't mean much does it? And what drives women to do these masculine things that are against their biology to sit and look pretty and shit out babies? males who don't act masculine are acting like little …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:05 AM
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taking action, leading, working, providing (yah i know), taking risk, etc So are women who do these things men? And are men who don't do these things, what, women minus ovaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:24 AM
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Only in TRpville is a man cave a sign of male oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:56 AM
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Penis = accomplishment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:52 AM
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ok wait. If you're saying that women are granted more freedom to be whatever they want while men in society are held to the standard of being masculine, I agree but that's very obviously not biological. How are women biologically women but men must accomplish being biologically male???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:44 AM
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A woman doesn't have to do anything to be a woman Being a man is an accomplishment Gtfoh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:11 AM
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then they get more funding for groups only they can join Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:30 AM
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You don't want women in your groups but when they go off and form their own you get mad and call it sexist (exactly what I said earlier and got downvoted, thanks for proving my point). Why do you care if women have their own groups if you don't want them in yours? so much fear of vagina in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:29 AM
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Why do you care -- an even better question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:27 PM
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Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:26 PM
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Dafuq??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:37 PM
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Just the simple fact that these dudes think they own a certain hobby and can police who partakes in it because they have dicks tells you what type of people you're dealing with. I don't game and don't give two shits about it and wouldn't date or fuck a guy who does if you paid me. But I have had plenty of hobbies over the years that are male dominated: football (yes I played on a coed team), boxing (yes I took lessons and trained in a gym), cars, to name a few and I've never seen the type of juv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:29 PM
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Work environments are totally different than social ones. they're paying you to get a job done not for you have bromance time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:22 PM
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So if I called you a small dick MOFO thatd be cool and you wouldn't be telling the mods to ban me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:18 PM
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Had to laugh at this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:17 PM
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Tbf though when women form their own groups because they feel unwelcome in these spaces these same men will cry discrimination and favoritism. You know, "why are there stem groups for women but not men, wahhhh!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:47 AM
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Feminism has its beginnings as a political movement concerned with women's legal rights. RP is not a political movement. For this be accurate you'd have to compare feminists to men's rights activists. The feminism is a sexual strategy comparable to RP belief is more than a little misinformed. Don't people, RPers included, complain that feminism teaches women to be totally independent of men? which doesn't sound like an effective sexual/dating strategy to me. I don't think women were ever turning…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:39 AM
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Men want to work with worldly things I don't even know what that means... and have advantage in working in physically/mentally stressful jobs Physical, yes, but I'd like to see some science to back up your belief that men have an advantage in mentally challenging jobs (such as?) That doesn't matter. Most men saying this aren't doing those jobs. They are doing the same low and mid level office jobs they deride women for, calling them useless. Irrelevant, no need to get personal. why would you tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:17 AM
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FFS... there aren't men's jobs and women's jobs. Yes there are jobs that more men do and jobs that more women do. That's the first issue. But let's focus on jobs that more women do, which these days is basically limited to nursing and teachers in white collar professions. If you think they're useless, hope you don't have kids or ever have to stay in a hospital. Most societally vital jobs I mentioned are done by men regardless of what the rest are doing. That doesn't matter. Most men saying this …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 01:18 AM
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That's your response? Smdh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:58 AM
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The men's rights movement is joke because they don't care about men's rights. They care about circle jerking over their butthurt, personal failures, and mommy issues, and nothing more. Name one piece of legislation that advances better outcomes for men that the MRA had any hand in. Crickets... Tell us what progress the MRA has made on family court reform, men's Heath issues, extending the draft to women, or any other issues pertinent to equality. Crickets...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:10 AM
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And women are not doing vital jobs? A job has to be "manly" to be important? And you won't address my point that most men aren't doing those manly important jobs. So I guess they're useless too. Call it research and product development if that makes you feel better. Vital elements of progressing technology. Coding your shitty company's website is anything but vital to society. This is truly one of the manosphere's worst "men are superior" arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:59 PM
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You live a very sad existence. Sorry to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:05 AM
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I feel like you (and women like you, and I've noticed a few on PPD) have never been in a relationship with men of equal value to yourself. Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:05 AM
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The majority of women who have the option of trading on their good looks, do just that. And further to my point, most men don't have this option. So we work. We gain status in our fields, outside of romantic connections. im curious where people with views like this are from and what life experience they have. Or whether you just arrived in a time machine from 1950. I'm serious. You realize this does not reflect reality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:59 AM
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60% of American men today are working white collar jobs not blue collar. And they're not all CEOs or prize winning scientists or doctors or "doing intellectual jobs" either. And seriously "coding?" Unless you're one of the few whose coding skills are being used in intelligence or national security or making life saving medical devices or something like that, an office drone with a STEM degree is still an office drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:23 AM
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Most men aren't doing things that are important or helpful to society either. TRPs just like to claim shared glory for the small percentage of men who are inventors, leaders, etc. while pretending that women do nothing of value cuz vagina. Meanwhile they're likely sitting in the next cubicle over from a woman doing the exact same paper shuffling ass kissing job office drone job he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:42 PM
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Top and bottom of what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:39 PM
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Steven Tyler was ugly af even when he was younger but damn I woulda hit that. I'm not sure what it is about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 02:13 PM
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Who's responsible for the other 96% of terrorist attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:59 PM
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Most sluts are actually lower class. The wealthier you get the fewer sex partners you have on average. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:10 AM
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My point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:18 AM
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Only straight cis middle class white people exist. Did that some how escape you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 12:53 AM
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Spare us the broken record. The women only want to sex with Chad bullshit is so fucking played out and childish. It's like you're nursing your own jealousy over average guys who are happy in LTRs (because of course you can't seem to get one) by convincing yourselves that those women can never really be attracted to those average men and have good sex with them, and are just playing them for their money. Whatever helps the haters sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:30 PM
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Whatever. You all live in an alternate universe and it's pointless to argue with the delusional. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:53 PM
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I agree. Everyone who is physically able should serve (the rich included). Except that shouldnt be the requirement for being able to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:50 PM
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Wait, I thought she settles for a beta she's not attracted to because she couldn't get an alpha to commit. Now you're saying she never intended to get the alpha to commit she just wanted casual sex from him until she was ready to settle down? You all need to hold a conference and get some consensus on your theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:36 AM
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I don't see the world's leading doctors, scientists, or philosophers walking around with hot women on their arm. Probably because you rarely see these men in the public eye but trust me if they're stable and successful they have a pretty good shot at landing an attractive wife. unless you define hot as supermodels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:32 AM
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You contradicted yourself so many times I lost count. But if you think men can provide more than being an ATM to women I got a bridge to sell you. I almost feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 11:18 PM
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Put in simpler terms it's remembering why you love your spouse and why you chose them. I can't see how that can ever be a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:50 PM
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I assure you I understand the concept of free market. You however have a very poor understanding of economics. Yes back then women were socially forced to depend on men and no longer are today. That is a good thing, but economically nothing has changed at all. What has changed most drastically is women no longer discriminated against by employers and in education and no longer socialized that their place is in the home. What has also changed is: -the transition from a manufacturing economy to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:21 PM
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I think we're basically saying the same thing. Game is manipulation (yet wimminz are the manipulators to them) for men who don't have resources. It's the same mentality. Trump admits women chase him because he's rich. A TRP who doesn't have money thinks game will keep his girl around because he's made her believe she can't do better (meaning she needs him). It's probably also likely they're emotionally stunted and don't want an emotionally healthy relationship based on want because they can't gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:43 PM
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On the contrary I think a lot of men would honestly prefer to be needed than wanted. Simply because want is fleeting. It comes down to self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:24 PM
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That's precisely what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:58 PM
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So anyone over 35, male or female, is no longer allowed to vote? Anyone with a disability or who lacks the physical strength for combat can't vote? Let's try not debating this from a place of fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:55 PM
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So women's lives are worth more than men's?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:46 PM
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Fair enough. I can tell you though one of the things I learned in marriage counseling was that we have to remember to be the people we both fell In love with years ago and recreate our younger days when we couldn't get enough of each other and saw each other through rose colored glasses. You both will change in some ways (life will change you whether you want to or not) but a person's character generally doesnt change, and that's what really makes us who we are. Not sure if that makes sense or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:08 PM
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This is a debate sub isn't it? If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:58 PM
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Men change too. They just believe they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:54 PM
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Well done. I'd add: Men: Not making an effort once they've got the girl. Ignoring her attempts to address problems in the relationship and then acting surprised when she cheats or leaves. Women: Tolerating bad sex in otherwise good relationship (this applies to a lot of women who just stop wanting sex; she never really enjoyed it just tolerated it, and once they're married she has no incentive to tolerate it anymore). Expecting him to read her mind. Underestimating that men generally are pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:47 PM
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I think what she means is that any woman who is a gold digger today is choosing to do so. Any woman is capable of supporting herself. She's saying women aren't forced to do it anymore and I don't understand why men, esp TRPs, don't see this as a good thing. You can't want women to be dependent and then bitch about gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:30 PM
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That's the point isn't it? Because they can afford to hire an army of $1000 an hour lawyers and accountants to lower their tax burden by working the system. It's legal (usually) but does that make it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 11:22 AM
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In raw dollars not tax rate. Some of them are paying a lower rate than you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:54 AM
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More tend to be welfare state to that socialism to that communism and even anarchism. Let's not get carried away. Most liberals think the rich don't despite the fact they do (upper class pays for 80% of all income tax). With the burden mostly shouldered by upper middle and low upper class households rather than the super-rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:37 AM
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I can't speak to UK but in America social policies enacted in the 1960s had disastrous consequences for poor families from which we are still reeling. Those policies removed poor men from their families and created multiple generations of single mothers and fatherless children who were literally incentivized to remain in poverty. They literally created a permanent underclass made of up aimless single moms and men with few opportunities turning to crime (which conveniently coincided with the rise…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:26 AM
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From what I've seen, cost of daycare and cost of living seem to be the drivers behind the decision to stay at home or go back to work. Tax rates don't really figure into it or it's a secondary consideration. Id love to see the NYT article as I think her analysis might be a little correlation implying causation. If I recall we were in an economic boom in 1986 (which proceeded the crash of 1987) so it's possible high earning women were lured back into the work force because of opportunities more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:14 AM
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Ok. I honestly have no idea. I hear young women today complain that men try porn moves on them. I wouldn't know, I've never had sex with a millennial. Most of them are young enough to be my kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:02 PM
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IMO Marriages can be great but most people don't want to do the work needed to make them so. It comes down to marrying someone because they've demonstrated their character over time - honesty, integrity, willingness to deal with difficult situations rather than running away, similar values, etc - and then commiting to do what's necessary to make it work. Looking for the HB9 with a low N count and the huge rack who likes to cook, etc is shallow shit that isn't going to get you through the long ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 10:42 PM
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Where we agree is pretty much no matter what stage in life a woman decides to have kids, there are going to be substantial costs no matter what. Yes but I believe it benefits the kids most to wait. If going to college first, work next, kids last, is such a successful formula then we wouldn't be here talking about alternatives, and we wouldn't need to import people from across the world to keep our population maintained. We're importing people largely to do the jobs Americans don't want to do and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:47 PM
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So gen y men are in fact not copying what they've seen in porn? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:46 PM
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Yes we know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 08:25 PM
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what I'm saying is that as a woman I've found men who take the time to get know my body and what I like are better, and those guys tend to be the type that have more relationships than ONS. Not always but usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:57 PM
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Bullshit. A guy could have had only a couple of LTRs and be leaps and bounds better than a Chad whose had 100 ONS. It's not quantity, it's quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:50 PM
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Yes it's essentially entitlement which repulses most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:43 PM
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It's far simpler than that. Listen, pay attention, and ask her what she likes if needed. Then the rest is on us to be responsive and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:41 PM
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so if a guy is bad in bed, it's because the woman can't find "better quality men?" See what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:35 PM
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I remember this topic coming up recently. Most men either denied it or deflected it. The rest were like "who cares what women want, they don't fuck guys like me anyway." It seems men are so terrified at the thought of being seen as bad in bed they're loathe to talk about it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:32 PM
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The chance of birth defects isn't much more significant until 35. This is why doctors don't consider you a high risk pregnancy until you're 35 (barring history of personal and familial health problems.) Agreed a parent in their 20s has more physical stamina, which is important. But youre trading off for more maturity and emotional intelligence which is just as if not more important in raising kids today. This problem is completely avoided if a woman marries at 20, has a child, goes to school par…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:39 PM
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If incels didn't admit they turn down women they don't find attractive, I'd believe this. Everyone has the right to their standards. Standards are good. If you're starving and broke, you have every right to turn down a happy meal because you're holding out for a lobster dinner. It's when you start complaining that the lobster dinner isn't free just because you want one that people stop respecting your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:51 PM
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OK. But I don't understand what that has to do with why virgins are virgins and incels are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:32 PM
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I would but I suspect it wouldn't get much traction beyond a few people coming in to tell me I'm wrong cause AWALT or saying it doesn't matter cause WOC are low SMV anyway. I know, I'm being really cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:23 PM
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Which is ironic because the younger the mother the less educated and smart (about the world) she is. The fact is the older and more educated the couple is the more likely they are to remain married and give their children a stable home life (divorce rates drop dramatically after 30 and above $75k HH income). Not to say only well off people can be good parents but I don't think telling women to forgo education to marry young is anyone's best interest (except for the low SMV guys who can't get lai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:21 PM
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sometimes virgins have sex and sometimes they don't. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:14 PM
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It's understandable that it's the default POV, I'd just like to see people stop discounting the views outside the default. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:08 PM
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You can't because women are valued differently in society, as are men. There seems to be acknowldgement of the latter but not the former. What do you mean by this? Have you ever heard of missing white woman syndrome (seriously google it)? The comparison between how society, the media, and law enforcement react when a white young women/girl disappears (Natalie Holloway, Lacey Peterson, Jon Benet Ramsey, the list goes on) versus missing WOC (you'd be hard pressed to name even one). This is an exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:31 PM
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You can't because women are valued differently in society, as are men. There seems to be acknowldgement of the latter but not the former. The point is these discussions leave little room for any nuance because TRPs like feminists and society as a whole overvalue young middle class white women and attempt to make their experiences and concerns the universal definition of "women" while ignoring everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:06 PM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:57 AM
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No one is denying that women initiate more divorces, women get more messages, short and nerdy men in general have a harder time, most men are not Chad, and most women marry men who make more money than them. The issues are: -the exaggerations (there are TRPs who seriously think 80% of men aren't getting laid and that it's impossible for a woman to be attracted to a man who is a good provider/ husband and they are NOT outliers) -the reasoning (75% of marriages ended by women =/= 75% of men are bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:54 AM
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Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 09:04 AM
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Just change the the 20 chads to 20% of guys who are chads and TRPs regularly say these things. You said most women are how TRP describes and the only reason women on PPD disagree is because we're outliers. False dichotomy. That's like me saying white people who visit subs like ChimpOut to make fun of the racists are outliers (surely they are) so that means most white people must agree with ChimpOut. Secondly a lot of women who post here aren't only speaking from their own experience they're rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:51 PM
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I'd agree. I'd wager we're mostly introverted observant opinionated arguers with a geeky interest in M/F relations and/or strong dislike for TRP. So yeah, outliers. Of course that is not proof all women only fuck the 20 guys in the world who are Chads, trap and manipulate their geeky beta husbands, and make false rape accusations for attention either. Cuz I know where you're going with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:14 PM
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I don't, i'm a busy Silicon Valley software engineer. I just speak my opinions. Then I picked the wrong field because you seem to have a lot of free time to spend on Reddit. Furthermore most Americans are tired of rich people getting richer. True. But I could care less about who they're fucking as long as they aren't spreading diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 11:01 PM
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Extend the privileges, freedoms, protections, and pedestalizing currently afforded middle class white women to all women. Or at least get the folks in pill land to admit the female privileges and advantages they go on and on about don't apply universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:57 PM
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Why spend time hating people who don't give two fucks about you? You're having no impact on their lives, only making your own more miserable and less productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:51 PM
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Kept maiden name Husband doesn't care Married 11 years I have no problem with men who want their wives to change their name but stop trying rationalize it. It's an emotional not logical reaction, and everything you wrote proves it. Just own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:59 AM
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I think that says more about your environment. Might be time to rethink the circles you run in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:24 AM
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Wtf is it with you? Youre intentionally misreading what im saying. I've laid it out several times already. If you can't get it, too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 10:23 PM
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It's not a problem for me. You keep pretending not to understand the difference between healthy and unhealthy indulgence/avoidance (but then nuance has never been a strength for TRPs.) If I enjoy a few drinks on the weekends but otherwise have my shit together, it's not the same as sitting around my house getting drunk every day to avoid the realities of adulthood. Porn/masturbation is not a replacement for having a social life. Playing video games all day is not a replacement for having a job. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 10:19 PM
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Nope. I said men who want women to be traditional need to be traditional themselves and hold themselves to the same standard. Traditionally men didn't live an extended adolescence in their parents basement until they were 30. Stop trying to act like you don't know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:53 PM
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yeah ok. I never said there is anything wrong with getting yourself off. I said if you have nothing to show for your life but self indulgence, should you really be surprised high value women don't want you? And yes it works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:39 PM
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I have no objection to men's sexual liberty. You got it backwards. .Yaboitinky is one the pining for the good old days when women had no choices or sexual liberty. I'm merely pointing out that if he wants women to be like they were, he's gotta be like men used to be. I could care less if he and his bros want to spend every minute of their lives jerking, gaming, and lusting after Instagram chicks. That's their choice. Just don't ask women to meet a higher standard than you're willing to meet your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:02 PM
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The article cites research comparing 1990s to now (weren't we talking about the 40s and 50s?). It also clearly acknowledges the limitations of getting accurate survey data on cheating because it relies on people to tell the truth (ironically) and because the number of people willing to admit to cheating to a survey taker is affected by cultural norms around cheating. if it's less likely you'll be shunned for it you're more likely to admit it. Right? Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:06 PM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:38 PM
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Putnam also says mistrust declines as different members of society are exposed to and get used to one another. In other words, we're afraid of what we don't know until we know better. Also there are many health complications caused by miscegenation, including but not limited to organ transplant complications. Utter bullshit. There are plenty of other subs for racist circle jerking yknow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:29 PM
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I never said they were all dumb jocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:18 AM
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I cant speak to frats but you included athletes in your previous comment and I can tell you that's just not true. Here's a good source surveying the grades of 83k+ athletes (as opposed to relying on one school). That's about a quarter of all NCAA athletes if I am not mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:19 AM
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Why don't you lend them a few plates from your harem you're always bragging about? that will get them to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:28 AM
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Fraternities and sports teams typically have a higher avg GPA. Yeah, no. Not in my experience and as much as I hate to defend oilpainter it's fairly easy to find research to prove this wrong. Also at some schools the minimum GPA to stay eligible can be as low as 1.8.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:17 AM
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There are far too many grown ass men here expecting women to right what their parents got wrong. Sorry not here to teach you life lessons and fix your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:59 PM
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No I don't. I think men who say this want us to be the women our grandmothers were without them having to be men our grandfathers were. How do I know? The very fact that they blame femininsm for their own inadequacies. You think our grandfathers ever would have done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:31 AM
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More assured paternity for men. Had to lol at that. As for the rest of it, remember that men were different back then too. if men today want women to be like they used to be, then they have to give up the porn, video games, prolonged adolescence, drinking binges, complaining and freedom and be like men used to be. That ain't gonna happen either,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:12 AM
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If things were like the 1950s I'd be all for marriage. What was so great about marriage in the 1950s?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:48 AM
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Are you an engineer?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:18 AM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:53 PM
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But you don't see them advocating for poor white kids to be adopted, bused, put in special academic programs in rich suburban schools, etc. And yes every UMC group has their way of separating themselves from the less fortunate who happen to look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:35 PM
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Almost all of the engineers he works with are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:28 PM
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F, married, happy, work really fucking hard to make it good. Missing him right now while he's overseas for an extended period of time and my descent into the world of TRP on this sub is making me feel damn lucky about what I've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:12 PM
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When momma says study hard and one day a girl will want you, momma doesnt give two shits about you getting laid. She wants to know you'll be successful and self-sufficient. omg this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:04 PM
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Happily married to an engineer for 11 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:01 PM
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there was a study done and they found 90% of computer science majors were virgins and 78% of engineers to be virgins. The very definition of junk science. My husband is an engineer. Some of his colleagues are nerdy and awkward but they tend to be the foreign guys still trying to adjust to the culture. Most of them are what you'd probably think of as normal guys; you'd never know what they do for a living unless they told you. And yes there are some alphas too, though they tend to rise quickly in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:58 PM
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Nowhere did I insult him. OTH he insulted me right off the bat and the mods removed it. His imagined insults from me were invented in his head. Might want to lose that chip on your shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:47 PM
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I was responding to the_calibre_cat's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:54 PM
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All POC are not poor btw. Just clarifying. They support CPS meddling in poor minority families and taking children away because the assumption is that these poor innocent children would just be so much better off around rich white people who can civilize/assimilate them (It also allows them the convenience of maintaining the status quo that is extremely beneficial to them by not actually addressing the structural reasons for poverty -- take the kids out of the ghetto rather than try to improve t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:35 PM
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UMC white people want to adopt poor black and Hispanic kids out of their communities because of corporal punishment? I think the issue is a little deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:18 PM
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Good post OP. The extent to which RP completely ignores the socioeconomic context for everything isn't surprising, given they think nurture is bullshit and everything we do has been preprogrammed by our knuckle dragging ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:09 PM
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See my post below about which RP sources I'm familiar with. No I'm not a RP scholar but I've read enough to form an educated opinion on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 06:34 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:20 PM
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Ok...but isn't there more to RP than anti-feminism? How does obsession with hating feminists make you a desirable man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:11 PM
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TRP isn't really a fixed thing You realize that kinda hurts its legitimacy though right? frankly I'd argue the allegations of omg rape apologism and misogyny are inflated There were 23 posts on PPD in last month that mention rape in the subject or description, 11 of them suggesting that rape is either exaggerated in frequency or not as bad/legit as people claim, well as the customary "incel is worse than rape" post from oilpainter777. threatened by the loss of squishy, submissive, easily-control…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:41 AM
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Everyone hates the moral judgements yet everyone keeps coming back. Let's admit that part of the lure of this sub and others like it is the feeling of superiority one gets from sitting in judgement of others relationship and sexual choices. We're only human. That said, I'd expect that if RP was the magic bullet its proponents claim it is, there would be more actual examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:27 AM
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You're suggesting those sources don't count (cause you don't read them/ cause you say so?) Most predictable move ever. No judgement, most people would do the same thing. How you can say that he is one of the "self-pitying incels, rape apologists, MGTOWs who can't shutup and GTOW, and assorted attention whoring trolls" and writes nothing but "female bashing circle jerk" for incels is beyond me. Read the comment section of any post on Rollo's site. Circle jerk city. I've written this before but Ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:16 AM
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Even if it was my opinion that getting jacked/ripped is easier that getting thin, what does me being a women have to do with it? Becuase I made a statement and have a vagina I'm speaking for everyone with a vagina? "Woman" is the best insult you can come up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:46 AM
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Thought you were linking me to Al Bundy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:42 AM
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I thought you asked a legit question and was suggesting you pose it in new thread. Pose not post. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:37 AM
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handsome, articulate No he's not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:14 AM
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What... You mean democratic politicians can be just as sleazy, entitled and criminal as republican politicians? You don't say!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:13 AM
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Perhaps you ought post this in a new thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:07 AM
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It's not like videotaped tirade aside people don't have a legit reason to question whether he's fit to be president.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:50 AM
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I know right! Could you imagine if men ever strung women along?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:10 AM
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I'm quite familiar with Return of Kings, Rollo, Illimitible Men, A Voice for Men (which I know you'd probably segment as MRA), Just4guys (when they were still around) among others. Other than the fact that the whiny incels get run off pretty quickly, it's the same thing, with the same female bashing circle jerk that misses whatever nugget of actual advice was presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:02 AM
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I'm asking. Enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:25 AM
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You're exact words were "my sex life is my business" when asked why you don't reveal to your gfs that you are screwing multiple women at once. Hey I don't begrudge anyone who wants to have multiple sexual partners as long as their being honest and safe. But that's not what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 11:27 PM
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That's why housing codes now require 13 foot ceilings. Feminist sexual strategy is infecting everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 11:22 PM
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So many people who are utterly wrong, shitting out their uninformed opinions, when all the data is out there. I haven't seen you back up one opinion yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 11:11 PM
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Weren't you just saying you feeL entitled to fuck around on women who believe they have an exclusive sexual relationship with you? hypocrisy (smdh)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 11:08 PM
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This is a pretty basic view that people who arent narcissistic assholes hold. If you've agreed on being exclusive and you fuck other people, sorry but you're a cheater and no better than the women you constantly revile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 11:03 PM
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Clear as to why I've never heard of a TERF before, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:39 PM
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"terfs love lesbians but don't like their anti male views" is essentially what you said right? So women who aren't anti male, including lesbians, transgender individuals and others, are fine with terfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:33 PM
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I see. So a TERF is a feminist who doesn't hate men and thinks feminism should be inclusive of different views. I'm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:16 PM
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So you're a feminist who hates lesbians. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 09:07 PM
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Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:44 PM
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Makes sense. Ok so what is a TERF?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:18 PM
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So why do you flair a group whose philosophies you don't really agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:08 PM
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Aren't you RPW?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:05 PM
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How does that answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:04 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:03 PM
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Guarantee I'm in better shape than you are. Women these days... You can be more creative than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:01 PM
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Yes you're right, I should have said getting toned as as hard/easy as losing weight. Getting ripped like this is probably about as easy as getting this body as a woman Which is why we should all just strive for something attainable and sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:57 PM
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Lady in the streets, freak in the sheets. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:37 PM
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What is the RPW obsession with sluts? Is that all there is to being a good RPW, not being a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:33 PM
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No but women can't stop themselves from aging. Women can't magically have an hourglass figure or a face like Adriana Lima. And yes it's just as easy for you to get ripped as it is for women to loose weight. None of this means anything though because the fact remains that most people do not look like celebrities and still date, have relationships and get married. It's time to end the pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:51 PM
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u/OfSpock i found another one ⬆️⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:26 PM
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he would be charged as a criminal. Are there 400 passengers in your bedroom who will crash and die if you don't have an orgasm? These analogies of yours are getting more ridiculous by the day. Denying a man an orgasm is sub human behavior. It's far more common for men to finish first leaving the woman without an orgasm. Is denying a woman an orgasm subhuman behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:20 PM
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Interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:46 PM
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Let's return this to the context of the original point. I'm talking about men who pedestalize women and are angry when women turn out to be flawed (as any normal person is flawed, stop pretending you don't know what I mean). Im talking about men who make assumptions about women they don't know (such as she dresses in x manner she must be x) and are angry when she's not what they expected and pins the blame on her for "misleading" him. I'm talking about men who think if they act in x manner that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:32 PM
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A victim of what? Having your expectations put into persepctive? If I build up men as being perfect in my mind, and every one I meet is imperfect, that somehow makes me a victim????
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:05 PM
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That women are out there begging guys to see all the different ways in which they, either personally or as a group, are problematic and maybe even awful No, everyone's trying to project the best image of themselves (and I've never known a woman to see herself as an ambassador for her gender in the context of dating, that's a silly idea). But you cannot pin your disappointment from your own misinformed expectations of someone on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:41 PM
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Exactly. An attractive gf would elevate their status among other men ... If only those bishes with their agency and free will would stop cock blocking them, they'd be able to join the ranks of the alphas. Lol Edit: butthurt downvote noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 05:00 PM
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Because men decided women wouldn't be allowed to do the dangerous jobs. TBF. I could just easily say the women who historically died giving birth to those men who went on to fight wars also paid with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:53 PM
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At my age that life is just a one way ticket to an early grave. I also find it kind of sad, but I don't want to project my values on others. Do most women dream about cheating on their husband with a hot photographer friend? Are you asking if women ever fantasize about someone other than her partner? I think a lot do, just as most men do. Acting on it is a different thing. If a person can't deal with the fact their the life partner will find others attractive, they shouldn't get married. If a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:06 PM
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Let me guess, you think people don't owe other people money for bets either, right? In a bet two people agreed to the terms up front. That has to the be the worst analogy ive ever seen. I didn't say women deliberately withhold sex from men and deliberately make it difficult. I do think they make it difficult, and I think it happens on a subconscious level and is due to evolution. No, it is because women don't want to nor are we obligated to sleep with any and every man. The real question is if m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:38 PM
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Language is very telling. Do you ever get the sense for a lot of these guys, who clearly don't even like women, that women are not the end but the means? Their real issue seems to be their own low status in society and among other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:10 PM
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Sure, ultimately a man's happiness is his own responsibility, but he doesn't owe women anything either. True. See, you got all worked up and raised your blood pressure over nothing. Why do you think it's men's personal responsibility to protect women? You said that, not me. Do you really need to try and bring other people in worse position than you down and be patronizing with strawman arguments to feel good about yourself? Are you really that insecure? Let's at least try and debate this like ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:04 PM
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Shit I should have known I was asking for another incel rant. So to you women should pay for their freedom, equality and safety with their vaginas. How do you believe men should pay for those same benefits? Sure, don't take personal responsibility, My personal responsibilty to what? Validate men with my vagina? I don't care about you ok. Not sure why it matters. The question has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:42 PM
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Personal attacks? How about answer the question. Since when is it our responsibility to see that men get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:27 PM
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What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:24 PM
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women like to use to feel better about themselves making it impossible for guys. Is that our job? To make sure you get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:20 PM
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RP is full of guys whose moment of clarity was realizing that women are human and it was them, not their parents, not society, that pedestized women. But it sucks to admit you were a fucking fool, so enter RP to tell them it's not you, the wimminz are just devious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:48 AM
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I suspect this is true, at least for some men. I think it's the basis for the TRP obsession with finding out her N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:44 AM
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-I have big boobs I got that too when I was younger but I wonder if it was that the boys thought big boobs meant slutty or that they were just horny and acting the way the think guys are supposed to act when they see big boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:38 AM
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Something doesn't add up. That happens a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 01:27 AM
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They'll be telling us they voted a Muslim Kenyan into the fucking White House. Them jokers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 11:24 PM
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Meth isn't real. SJW feminazi libtards made it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:55 PM
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Fact is you can live without sex. you can't live without food or shelter. Lack of sex doesn't prevent you from getting a job to support yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 08:10 PM
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More are Libertarian, which is just a tradcon who likes drugs and porn. Quote of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:43 PM
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Do you consider yourself typical of RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:43 PM
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Nah you're just brainwashed by the lefties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 07:38 PM
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How could you pose a question in a public forum to a demographic as large as women and possibly get different answers? Maybe: It's possible that different women want different things. Are individuals. Or put in your language, NAWALT. It's possible that women change over time and what we want today might not be the same thing we want next year or 5 or 10 years from now. Or put in your language, she may love the cock carousel at 25 but have no interest in casual sex 5 years later after she's hit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:54 PM
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Seriously dude i think you should consider switching to a more challenging major. Or join a club or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 06:32 PM
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so I disagree with those who portray sexual strategy as being the point of feminism. Not beyond the extent to which economic freedom and equality frees women from being dependent on men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:39 PM
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Should women ask themselves the same question -- would you want your son to marry the type of woman you are today? That's a good start for self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:15 PM
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What's funny is that the majority of the RPers I talk to are in LTRs of some kind. Really?? Do you mean IRL? Online it seems like they're all either terminally single or married and bitching about living in the 7th circle of hell. Edit: MOST seem that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:05 PM
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From my own perspective as a black woman I've hesitated to call myself a feminist in the popular sense because I haven't always felt like mainstream American feminists have cared about WOC and our issues, or have only cared when it benefits their agenda which is largely defined by the concerns and needs of middle class white women. I'm certainly not alone in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:22 PM
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The backlash against this is the sentiment that women/people opt in to relationships for multiple reasons that requires no one else's approval. This
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 03:31 PM
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Ah OK. It's not a dichotomy of being either alpha or beta Makes sense to me however I don't think I'm imagining that a number of TRPs have trouble grasping this (or maybe don't agree).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:08 AM
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Thank you. But I'm no less confused than I was before. Are you saying that it's OK - even good -to be a provider as long as he's not buying her attention to get sex? That's what makes him a beta? Or are you saying any man who spends any money on a woman is automatically a beta and thus a loser? Or are you saying if he buys her things she loses attraction for him thus he becomes a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:14 AM
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You wrote that it can't be true that women here prefer the faithful less attractive man and your proof is that .01% of the population of men get hot women that don't care if they cheat. OK. Then it can't be true that most men don't want to watch their wives fuck other men and my proof is the .01% of men who are into cuckolding. So despite what woman here on PPD say, in real life a high smv male will have no problem finding a hot woman. That wasn't the question. The question was asked of women, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:32 AM
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Wives and girlfriends of athletes. No one thinks hot women are the average. Then why would you argue they're proof that women as a rule would take the hot cheater and that all the women here are lying about wanting the less hot faithful man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 01:58 AM
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WAGs are now representative of the average woman? And we're the ones living in an alternate universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 01:40 AM
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I'm still trying to understand how RP distinguishes a BB from any man who is a provider. Is it ONLY that she's not attracted to him? EDIT: serious question. If any TRPs want to answer I'd be most appreciative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:37 PM
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OK. So would I be quicker dump a cheating hot/not rich boyfriend than I would a not so not/rich boyfriend? I'd dump them both. There's no amount of hotness or money that would make me tolerate cheating. I may be wrong but I think you're trying to get at one of these two things: -women want money so much that she'll raise the bar as far as infidelity to lock down or keep a rich man -women continue to care about her LT partner's SMV after they're exclusive - presumably because a higher SMV man has…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:37 PM
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I take this a different way. If you're in an open relationship and you're both aware of it and agreed to it, I don't see that as cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:08 PM
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Meaning unloyal guy b is hotter than loyal guy a? Guy A. No contest. Why would this even be a question for most relationship minded women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:49 PM
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Or, "holy shit, I needed a microscope to find it." Or "I was begging him to put in it and he's like...Uh...I'm done..."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:07 AM
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I think if you'd asked the question differently you'd have gotten the results you wanted. Would a TRP want to date a woman who: -only values him for money -ridicules and disrespects him for not being rich enough -rates him on a scale of 1-10 based on his assets -believes there's a "wall" where if a man's income falls below a certain point he's useless and should be an object of scorn -manipulates him into giving her money all the time by making him feel insecure -hits on his richer friends as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:35 AM
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Don't forget mommy issues. They're over there circle jerking as we speak about disciplining your woman, she should be crying and begging forgiveness for burning your dinner, spare the rod, spoil the bitch (srsly), blah, blah. If that doesn't sound like the revenge fantasy of a bratty 5 year old I don't know what does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:12 AM
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Then watch the video and share your take on why you think they were laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:12 PM
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This is way too basic of a concept to be misconstrued as often as it is. Point blank: Being nice is not going to make her attracted to you if she's not already. Being nice doesn't erase walking around looking like a slob. Being nice doesn't erase lacking basic conversational skills. Being nice doesn't erase having nothing to show for you life but hours wasted on porn and video games. People - male and female - like interesting, funny, emotionally mature people ... who are also nice. Don't stop b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:25 PM
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I'm assuming you were not alive yet in the 80s? I was. Let me tell you what I remember that puts it into context: There was a culture war going on between the conservative Christians (who helped get Reagan elected) and, well, everyone else -- it was 10x worse than today. Pornography was under attack, explicit lyrics were under attack (the 80s gave us the infamous music warning labels), pretty much everything the right wing traditionalists didn't like was under attack (for example, look up the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:44 AM
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They're literally laughing at the idea. Watch the video again. Do you not recognize that when someone's laughing they think what they just heard or said was funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:08 AM
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They're not angry, they're laughing at you. Also need to learn how to recognize satire/ sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:34 PM
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MGTOWs- Y'all need to learn the difference between people being "upset" and people just fucking tired of listening to you complain. That goes for you incels and rape apologists too. It's not gynocentric. If WGTOWs began cropping up to tell the world men are shit and we are done with them ... after we tell you a few more 1,000 times we'll be done with them, anyway ... I'd feel the same way. It's less your ideology, even though we may disagree, and more your delivery. It's that you're like mosquit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:20 PM
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