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| 241 | Paedo sisters who sexually abused boy over decade from age six spared jail | postingcrap | /r/MensRights | 21/08/16 10:44 AM |
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| 2 | Woman jailed for sexually abusing boy after judge says "gender is irrelevant" and he cannot lower the sentence just because the victim is a boyAnd it's trivially easy to prove with a thought experiment. Which is more violating, forcing someone to take a penis in their mouth, or forcing someone to lick a body cavity with their tongue? They're obviously both the same. The fact that the body part is inside or outside your body makes no difference, only the element of consent decides whether something is violating. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/16 01:13 AM |
| 12 | Woman jailed for sexually abusing boy after judge says "gender is irrelevant" and he cannot lower the sentence just because the victim is a boyBoth acts are equally as intimate and equally as violating. The only difference is from social conditioning. This prevalent idea that men and boys are 'lucky' to be forced into sex, even if none consensual, is what trivialises the harm people think it causes. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/16 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.The law that forces men to keep legal parenthood can't be overridden by a contract. It would be like an employment contract that forces an employee to forgo rights to a wage. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/16 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.I agree, like if there weren't very unequally skilled trolls, the good ones would be just as dull and boring as you. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 03:56 AM |
| 17 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.He literally just said "abortions need to be banned." My word man, get an education. It's a literary device, a hypothetical, a thought experiment. "if this, then that ", using a reduction to the absurd to make a point. If you go through life taking everything as literal truth you are up the proverbial without a fucking paddle mate. eta: Just for you mate, here's the same argument as literal as it's possible to be: p1: A man automatically consents to children if he has sex p2: Men and women shoul… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.We want rights for men in many areas where they are unequal and want women to take responsibility for their actions, yes. That's because the opposite is currently true, as is the entire point of this thread. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 03:26 AM |
| 4 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.It depends on the jurisdiction, but generally if it is not legally possible to give up legal rights to a child then it is also not possible to include it a contract. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 03:14 AM |
| 6 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.Let's not forget that not only do women get to abort whenever they want (regardless of the father's wishes), they can also give up their legal parenthood through adoption. Worse still, they can do so without the father's permission so long as they can convince a court. Or they could have simply not named the father on the birth certificate, in which case they are never compelled to reveal who it was and his permission is never sought. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 03:05 AM |
| 4 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.Those were the mods words and they have shown themselves to be biased, we have no idea what the actual posts were. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 02:57 AM |
| 24 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.Except as many in that thread pointed out, there was no legal advice about why it's not possible (contracts cannot break laws), it was purely a rant against men 'keeping it in their pants'. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 02:55 AM |
| 27 | Feminism: it's always rights for women and responsibilities for men.No-one in this thread is seriously suggesting that it is fair to ban abortion. Even someone with the reading comprehension of a 10 year old can see that the idea is only raised to compare and contrast with the lack of rights men have. Also: They don't consent to being raped. Men don't consent to having their condoms pricked with a pin and being lied to about birth control. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/16 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Interesting post on the legal advice subreddit. The mental gymnastics are fun to watch.Here's one: "Uh, he did implicitly consent to the notion of a child happening by having sex." By that logic we should ban abortions and even birth control for all consensual sex, because women 'implicitly consent' to having children every time they spread their legs. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/16 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Paedo sisters who sexually abused boy over decade from age six spared jailCompare to the 24 years that this guy got for sexually abusing a girl for the same length of time. Not defending that case, but you really have to question western justice systems and our population when one person has a 24 year sentence described as 'too light' and people call for torture or death for the man in prison, and another gets a suspended sentence for practically the same crime. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/16 11:45 AM |
| -16 | Cop slams the pussy pass out of her! Brutal!This isn't ppd, it's just a perfect example of utterly primitive US policing. Everyone involved is a fucking Neanderthal. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 18/08/16 10:37 PM |
| 4 | Apparently NBC allows its female hosts to fondle topless athletes on live TVDoesn't matter if it's hypocrisy. It's sexual harassment. It shouldn't be tolerated by anyone. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/16 10:48 AM |
| 22 | The hard naked truth about "misogyny"No reason why the male tweeters aren't using it in that way either. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/16 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Minecraft creator Notch Steps Up to Take on Man Hating Bigots with Bonus Shutting Down of a White Knight and How Being Successful isn't a crime! Juicy!Many are just misandrists. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 22/06/16 06:32 PM |
| 2 | A male's dating blog, vs. a woman's dating blog.Except society cares when women complain. Society tells men to "man up" when they complain, or just ignores them, because men are disposable. It does now, because there's been a solid half century of movement in that direction. Go back 100 years and it would be the exact opposite. The best way to change the world for men is to act, not talk. I don't disagree there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 03:55 PM |
| 2 | A male's dating blog, vs. a woman's dating blog.Yeah, I don't think she sees any of that. That's your interpretation, though it's pretty spot on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 01:55 AM |
| 5 | A male's dating blog, vs. a woman's dating blog.I think a woman could easily get away with 'gross' sexual details in a blog. Hell, it's plastered on every other page in sleazy women's magazines here in the UK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 01:45 AM |
| 3 | A male's dating blog, vs. a woman's dating blog.It's simple, men are disposable and we live in a girl power age. Accept that, move on and do what is needed to succeed, hint bitching about changing this is the wrong way. On an individual level that is true. But collectively the only way to change it is to bitch about it until society's views change. This is after all how we came to live in a girl power age, as you put it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 01:31 AM |
| 5 | Woman gets pregnant by 13 year old student. Media calls it being "romantically involved".You are probably trolling, because you're essentially trying to justify paedophilia. You know girls that age are just as likely to boast and be happy about a relationship with a much older man too. That's because both boys and girls are impressionable at that age, i.e. they are not mature enough to make the decision. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/16 07:02 PM |
| -1 | Yes, it happens. (A Tinder conversation with a feminist.)Nothing to do with men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/16 11:23 AM |
| 3 | Young Men Are Facing a Masculinity CrisisAs a society we need to be more supportive of paternity leave, stay-at-home dads, Yes we absolutely do need that. That will also help tip the balance of custody battles because there will be no employment discrimation leading to mothers being the 'natural' choice in custody battles. and men entering traditionally “feminine” careers, such as nursing or teaching. Just as we encourage girls to be strong and confident, to enter STEM careers, and to be anything they want to be, we need to similarly e… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/16 06:18 PM |
| 54 | The naked truth about marriage and divorce in the 21st century [comics]It's more than that though. Men have suicidal intent, whereas women don't. Women live in a world where support is easy, from friends, doctors, groups, charities, etc. Women attempt suicide to cry for that help and they get it. Men do not have support. There is no point attempting suicide for any other reason than to kill ourselves. Also you have to understand when it happens. Women attempt suicide in their early years. On the other hand, suicide is the biggest killer of men in their 40s and 50s … | /r/MensRights | 27/05/16 04:59 PM |
| -5 | Debunking Feminism: Etymology of Gendered Language.Yes me. Ask yourself what difference it would make if the twitter feminists that believe this suddenly stopped trying to claim it was true. Would it help men with depression? Would it stop men killing themselves in such large numbers? Would it lead to equality in the courts? Would it reunite men with their children? Would it lead to more equitable divorces? Would it balance the scales of education? Lead to equal paternity leave and other employment rights? This is simply trivial shit compared to… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/16 06:41 AM |
| -9 | Debunking Feminism: Etymology of Gendered Language.nothing to do with men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/16 06:19 AM |
| 0 | Q4RP: Are MGTOW men usually men who women don't want anyway?That being said I don't get why all they do in their subs in discuss about women Yep, put me off the sub. Seems like most there are still stuck in redpill's anger phase. However, if they take the message of focusing on themselves and seeking self improvement to heart, that bitterness should subside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Are MGTOW men usually men who women don't want anyway?Why expect women to care? I don't think MGTOW do expect that. It's just a support group and a strategy for getting on with life and enjoying it. The 'fantasy' of women caring is all in your head, based on your prejudice and dislike for those men in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Question for red pillers: How exactly do you want a woman to love you?Depends what your definition of a regular guy is. Could be that you only associate with men that are in that state around you, and discard or ignore anyone that might be depressed, vulnerable, self-doubting etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Do Men Love Unconditionally?I also claimed it was rare, it was the only time I had felt that way at least, but was told that belief was just a 'personal fable'. I'm not sure what to think of it any more. RP would probably tell me it was oneitis, niceguys would tell me I need psychology help, cringepics would have a field day over our texts. Love doesn't seem to factor into any of these silly internet ideologies. It's just sex, that's all people think is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 01:00 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and the Ultimate Attribution ErrorExcept, the sample you're drawing those examples from has hundreds of millions of members. The same issue still exists. There are hundreds of thousands of examples of people having HIV - that doesn't mean everyone has HIV. The only meaningful number is the fraction of people to whom your stories apply. TRP makes no effort to determine that statistic. So I suppose you have got to the effort of finding the statistic that proves your generalisations about members of the redpill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Are there any opinions on subjects/current debates on both sides of the TRP/TBP that you haven't completely made your mind up on?Interesting that the main argument against RPers is that they generalise traits of women to use in their sexual strategy. Yet the whole basis of TBP's underlying feminist agenda generalises all of women's issues in life and blames society for them (i.e. men, in their worldview). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/16 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and the Ultimate Attribution ErrorI think most Red Pillers' experience of relationships involves stunted communication and manipulation on both sides. This is hilarious. Your entire point is that RP shouldn't make generalisations, yet all of your points are just sweeping, reckless, generalisations based on nothing but personal prejudice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 11:42 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and the Ultimate Attribution ErrorBlue pill means "anti-red pill" and nothing more. So it's just a hate group. It's a ridiculous claim though. You are anti-redpill because of the ideas the redpill stands for, because you have ideas that are different and in conflict. Those ideas are the blue pill ideology. You are just unaware you follow it because you assume it to be 'the truth' just because it's commonly held. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 11:37 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and the Ultimate Attribution ErrorHow about selection bias then? i.e. the type of men attracted to RP have had similar experiences to have led them there, so when they see their views about women shared by the group, they believe they have enough evidence to generalise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 11:21 PM |
| 2 | This makes a really good pointIt should be treated like a man hitting his women, verbal domestic violence should not be accepted. It doesn't need to be. A man getting angry and shouting at his wife is exactly equivalent to hen pecking. In the former though, it is seen as an abusive act by violent man, whereas the latter is seen as fairly normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 11:00 PM |
| 2 | "Women don't love men, they only love the way you make them feel" How is this not also vice versa?Whilst I agree that 'men romance and women are romanced', and the whole active/passive argument /u/alreadyredschool links to, I also think the idea that only women 'love the way you make them feel' is too simplistic. When I fall in love, I love the way a woman makes me fell, just simply talking to her and being around her, just everything about her. It's that which compels me to take action, to be active, to try to romance her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Do Men Love Unconditionally?I didn't because I love him and could not imagine my life without him. I'd rather be miserable with him than happy with anyone else. I expressed similar feelings in the past. I've been so swept away by someone that I couldn't imagine life without her. It was mocked. It was called infatuation, a crush, not love. A sign of emotional insecurity. Seems that men aren't even allowed to feel that way without seeming needy and weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Comparing to the dating scene 50 years ago, do you think the average modern man has it harder or easier?Yes, we are not needed as a provider, even after kids (because of benefits mainly), yet it is still one of the most attractive qualities in a man. Men are still expected to conform to a '50s gold standard stereotype, while living in a world that simply doesn't require it outside of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Comparing to the dating scene 50 years ago, do you think the average modern man has it harder or easier?Perhaps it is simply that men that were previously sleeping in the gutter can now afford to show their faces in the same places as the elite. Likewise with online dating, men that were previously too shy and awkward to go out, can start talking to women online (and run the risk of featuring on /r/cringepics). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Comparing to the dating scene 50 years ago, do you think the average modern man has it harder or easier?Actually not what the data said: http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/how_to_get_replies_1/length-sm.png http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/how-to-get-people-to-reply-to-your-messages-in-online-dating-part-i/ Now, our graph clearly shows that in raw terms, it helps guys to write longer messages. But when we factor in the actual time it takes to compose a given message, it becomes clear that in terms of time put in vs. likelihood of starting actually having a conversation, shorter is actually better. If we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/16 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Vasalgel Donation PledgeSometimes it doesn't matter. Men can be labelled a father by proxy by the courts even if it wasn't theirs. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/05/16 07:21 PM |
| 3 | Vasalgel Donation PledgeAND IT's 100% REVERSIBLE Hopefully it will be. The trials so far show that it is irreversible in large primates. Humans have larger vas than other primates so there is hope the human trials will be more of a success. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/05/16 07:16 PM |
| 1 | TheRedPill Contingency PlanI don't think TRP has anything to do with politics. Nor are SJWs and modern feminists particularly liberal, pretty much the antithesis of it tbh. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/05/16 07:08 PM |
| 12 | Pussy Pass on Full DisplayMy gf told me what she thought was a 'funny' story from work the other day. She works in a ward for mothers with PND and their kids. Apparently one of the patients claimed her child had been kidnapped, but after much searching they found the baby inside a suitcase. She had literally stuffed her own baby in a suitcase. I said a man would get years in prison for that. "That's different'. Because 'hormones' apparently. I got so angry I had to get out of bed and sit by myself for a while. Where is t… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/05/16 08:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: One of the most common miscommunications between TRP and TBP is that TRP assume every argument is about sex.They are a hate group, same as /r/cringepics, /r/creepypms, /r/SRS, /r/justneckbeardthings and so many others. They exist only to preach hatred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/16 08:01 AM |
| 2 | How long should a man wait before making it clear in some way he is attracted to a woman he meets?People can get to know each other outside of the confines of a date you know. Work, socialising, etc. That's when attraction is likely to develop without rules 1 and 2 being so important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 02:25 PM |
| 1 | How long should a man wait before making it clear in some way he is attracted to a woman he meets?Can't really argue with that, but again it's superficial. Rules one and two get you a first date, anything beyond that comes after getting to know someone. As others have said, ASAP works if you want to just fuck, based on physical/sexual attraction alone. If you have feelings for someone that go beyond sex it's a terrible idea to just to dive in like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 02:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: One of the most common miscommunications between TRP and TBP is that TRP assume every argument is about sex.A minority perhaps. I said overlap, as in if you were to put their views in a Venn diagram most people in the TBP would also be in similar hate subs like cringe and drama subs etc. They basically just hate men that don't fit within their narrow sexist stereotype. You only need look at the subs the moderators of TBP also mod - it's all drama and hate subs centred around SRS and feminism. Bizarrely they also mod some pretty niche subs like /r/jewsluts, /r/transkink and /r/dickgirls, but heh, to ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 02:00 PM |
| 1 | How long should a man wait before making it clear in some way he is attracted to a woman he meets?Most women would take that line if you just walked up to them and expressed an interest as soon as you see them. It shows superficial interest at best. Attraction usually takes longer to build than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 01:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: One of the most common miscommunications between TRP and TBP is that TRP assume every argument is about sex.It absolutely is an ideology. I'm sure people from /r/the_donald and /r/european do it for the lulz too, but they all share the same set of views. Outside of that niche they might be totally different people, but like TBP, they share that ideology. And it just so happens that just like there is overlap between TRP and men's rights, men's issues and anti-SJW movements, there is overlap between TBP and feminism, male shamming subs and the SJW movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 01:29 PM |
| 1 | How long should a man wait before making it clear in some way he is attracted to a woman he meets?ASAP "You barely know me though" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 01:02 PM |
| 3 | CMV: One of the most common miscommunications between TRP and TBP is that TRP assume every argument is about sex.TBP make everything about sex too. They are the most guilty of thinking 'nice guys' only want sex and that the whole thing is just a dishonest act to get it. Women especially think that all men are only interested in sex (AMALT), so they view all behaviour that doesn't fit that stereotype to be dishonest. That view is half the reason why TRP exists in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/16 12:55 PM |
| 2 | You are not entitled.Not sure that's true either. No-one is particularly attractive after retirement. Honestly you sound like someone that doesn't get it on a regular basis. Sex isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. It's quite meaningless really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 06:27 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled.No you won't. Fucking lots of women doesn't mean you'll not end up alone in the end either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 06:22 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled.I'll do anything to fuck hot women. That honestly sounds pretty desperate mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:57 PM |
| 1 | You are not entitled.I do those things for myself, not for women, not to be more attractive to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sex is an extremely extroverted activity, and thus any introverts will have a huge disadvantage getting sexual opportunities.3 different women a week is worth the effort though, wouldn't you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 05:42 PM |
| 2 | how common is for women to be attracted to weak/shy men?It's worse than that, they think you're hiding something, not being genuine. People leap to the conclusion that if you are nervous around them it's because you have something to fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 05:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women that know what they want don't appear on TRPs radar.Men's preferences change too. All of those pump and dump types I knew in my twenties are now happily married with kids. Then again so are many of the quiet, reserved nice guy types. Everyone settles down as they mature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 02:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women that know what they want don't appear on TRPs radar.Honestly I think every man has his own idea of where the wall is, depending on his age. From my own personal experience it seems to be about 35, either when a woman has had kids and needs a replacement father, or hasn't had kids and is starting to think of the biological time bomb of menopause. Hormones decrease with age long before the menopause though, afaik. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 02:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The women that know what they want don't appear on TRPs radar.Could be the reason why when women start hitting 'the wall', they start looking for those quiet responsible guys too. It's just because they are getting closer to their perimenopause and hormones are not what they used to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Any men here who are attracted to masculine women? Any women here who are attracted to feminine men? Yes or no, and why?I absolutely hate masculine attributes in women, and unfortunately many women nowadays are loud, obnoxious ladette wannabes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 12:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being alpha is a talent that can't be learned, like musical talent.Everyone can learn to play guitar. But it certainly helps if that's all you are good at from a young age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 12:34 PM |
| 3 | Vulnerability is the most attractive feature of a personYou brought pride into this. Every man knows pride is a weakness, as it always comes before a fall as they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 12:05 PM |
| 9 | how common is for women to be attracted to weak/shy men?Perhaps because most men going through a period of shyness or social anxiety experience the 99% of women that aren't interested on a firsthand basis. Most are treated with nothing but contempt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/16 11:55 AM |
| 2 | To BP: How do you explain this situation without the AF/BB paradigm of the red pill? How can you explain this common mating strategy among women noted in the comment section?Sorry to use a RPism, but she is hamster wheelling it. Compare: Lucas and I had a really fluid connection to Lucas had a big dick and was good in bed, thats ALL he had. A complete contradiction. She can't even begin to explain her connection to him, she doesn't understand it because it doesn't fit within her worldview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 06:36 PM |
| 2 | To BP: How do you explain this situation without the AF/BB paradigm of the red pill? How can you explain this common mating strategy among women noted in the comment section?At the same time she says "I like my boyfriend a lot more, and I actually see us getting married down the road. Mentally, emotionally, I have a far deeper connection to him than any other guy I have been with". So which is it, not comfortable or closer than anyone she's ever been with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Girl doesn't understand why her b/f is mad she let her big dicked ex have anal with her but not himIt doesn't even need to be about money. If you loved going down on your ex, but refuse with your current, how would that make her feel? She'd think there's something wrong with her. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/05/16 06:22 PM |
| 4 | To BP: How do you explain this situation without the AF/BB paradigm of the red pill? How can you explain this common mating strategy among women noted in the comment section?I think in some cases it's more a woman learning by her mistakes. In her youth she was perhaps attracted to arseholes that used her for sex, and it was simply degrading for her. Now she doesn't want to repeat her mistakes. In this case however, she admitted to enjoying it, so she really does seem to think less of her current bf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 05:59 PM |
| 4 | You are not entitled.If a partner isn't giving you any of what you have listed for a long period of time, it's because they feel nothing for you any more, and they are just using you. This idea that you need to change yourself to make them care about you again is pathetic and desperate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 05:45 PM |
| 6 | You are not entitled.Sorry but if I'm in a relationship and not getting the majority of the things anyone would expect from a relationship, then it's the only option. The relationship is over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 05:40 PM |
| 8 | You are not entitled.you need to change yourself into a person your partner (or partners) will want to engage in X with. Yeah right, or just fucking dump them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 05:25 PM |
| 1 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?Make a point or go home, buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 09:34 AM |
| 2 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?TRP is almost the equivalent, much of it is equally justified. It accepts that most of the reasons men grow to hate women are true and just tries to work with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/16 09:33 AM |
| 1 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?Have to agree with /u/DaphneDK here. There has been considerable study in this area. Women internalise depression, they ruminate. When they attempt suicide it is a cry for help. Men externalise depression, they fight against society to the bitter end. They don't seek help, because that is giving up. When men attempt suicide it's because they truly believe they have lost the fight. They don't fuck about. Hence reported depression rates are higher in women, as are suicide attempts, but successful … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 11:12 PM |
| 1 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?Would you treat neckbeards as human beings? And seriously it's not about being seen as human beings, it's about being seen as sexually attractive ones. That's why they put emphasis on fat being beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 11:02 PM |
| 2 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?I don't think they are equivalent at all. Red pillers don't accept their bad looks and insist on society changing their views on it. They actively seek to "improve their looks" and become an 'alpha'. It's the exact opposite of the fat acceptance movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 10:59 PM |
| 2 | So if female incel is on par with male incel as BP claims, do women also experience an intense "anger phase" on the same level as male anger? If not, then shouldn't they not be compared?Yes it's called modern feminism - male hating, anger fuelled bitterness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 10:48 PM |
| 0 | Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena?I don't think that's true either. You're still trying to pidgeonhole people into this fantasy needy, clingy character. It allows you to group everyone that falls in love with a girl together and dismiss their feelings as trivial. I think if you were to try remembering some of these boys from your class, they probably only fell in love with one or two women, no different to anyone else at that age. The only difference is that the focus of their affection didn't feel the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 12:41 PM |
| 5 | What are the biggest points of disagreement between the pills?It's not just RPers that BP stereotype. They seem to have a very narrow definition of the way a man should act and anyone that doesn't fit within that are shamed. That applies to RPers, but also NiceGuys, neckbeards, creeps, etc, etc. Only the elusive gold standard male is acceptable. In many ways they are similar to RPers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena?Yes, but you seem to be generally supportive of genuine nice guys. I'm curious how women tell the difference between a nice guy that so many claim to be looking for and the stereotypical Nice Guy, when the only difference appears to be how they react to rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 04:23 AM |
| 12 | What are the biggest points of disagreement between the pills?The BP position is to avoid stereotypes, trends, and generalizations because they want to treat people as individuals. See I don't believe that at all. Many of the most vile male-shamming stereotypes seem to come from the BP side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 04:01 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP - What contradictions do you see in RP? RP feel free to answer underneath BPWell since my original claim was there were no complaints, only statements of fact, I'm being fairly consistent wouldn't you say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena?And so how do you tell the difference before rejecting them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 03:52 AM |
| 6 | Q4BP - What contradictions do you see in RP? RP feel free to answer underneath BPsounds like a dreadful shame It's not, it's fucking awesome for the most part. It's not all the time of course, and men can be sensitive but it's usually for the sake of a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Q4BP - What contradictions do you see in RP? RP feel free to answer underneath BPI'm not a red piller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Is there a fundamental misunderstanding of the 'nice guy' phenomena?I don't think it follows that men that fall head over heels do so for every woman they meet. You're generalising, trying to fit people into a desperate, clingy, needy, weak stereotype. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 03:07 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP - What contradictions do you see in RP? RP feel free to answer underneath BPIt's the way most men talk about emotional issues. We take the piss, ridicule, engage in banter, make light of it, whatever you want to call it. Trick is not to take yourself too seriously. It's a very healthy strategy most of the time, but can be very isolating if you have serious issues. That's when a softer touch would be nice, but of course there's no point getting that from women as they are the first to act like complete bitches in that situation. They're worse than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 02:40 AM |
| 5 | Q4BP - What contradictions do you see in RP? RP feel free to answer underneath BPI don't see it lamented, only stated as fact. For instance used to demonstrate why men cope differently with rejection, negativity, depression, etc (we externalise, fight back). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 02:29 AM |
| 2 | What are the biggest points of disagreement between the pills?Whether it's acceptable to base your interactions with one person on your knowledge or experiences with other people like them. Is this common sense, or is it failing to treat someone as an individual? Which side do you believe treats people as individuals? I think all here are guilty of stereotyping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?That doesn't appear to be what that graph shows, but whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?That's not what I said. Here's an actual graph of what I said. So you are actually just saying women cope better on average. I doubt that's true, they just don't have to cope with it as often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 02:04 AM |
| 2 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?Not sure fairness has anything to do with it, they're just wrong. You are right about the variation between men and women though. Men have more variation in traits due to recessive traits in the X chromosome expressing themselves more often because they lack a copy in the Y chromosome. Those traits can be positive or negative, hence more geniuses and more morons. Women are genetically safer. All of our evolutionary power comes from this variation of traits, as mutations simply don't happen in wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/16 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?It's not a tactic, it's just a stereotype. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/16 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?But it makes sense, and seems to be true Within which pop-psychology narrative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/16 09:11 PM |
| 4 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?Do women take rejection better? Yes, but just because nice guys are defined as taking rejection bad.... As in, probably pretty similar rates for both, and trying to use the difference in averages is misleading because regardless you will find a wide spread from each. I don't think it's misleading to use averages, it more accurate in fact. The real difference is that the stereotypes of nice-guys, neckbeards, etc exist for men yet not for women. The stereotype allows people to pigeonhole men that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/16 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Do women take rejection better than the nice guy^tm?Those who never learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them, so I don't think that follows. Could just mean they never learn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/16 08:42 PM |
| 24 | Guy on OKCupid subreddit needs emotional support, displays vulnerability in front of his girlfriend. Guess what happens next.If women were men, they'd be psychopaths. They have empathy only when it is convenient. It's like a switch they can flick on or off at will. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/05/16 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Guy on OKCupid subreddit needs emotional support, displays vulnerability in front of his girlfriend. Guess what happens next.The thing is, we at RedPill know this so we don't fall into these traps ourselves and end up getting hurt later. That doesn't sound very RP. the only person you should emotionally rely on is your mother and your male friends. Hahaha, I won't put an ounce of emotional investment in my male friends, they're all cunts. I trust them to be honest, that's all. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/05/16 08:50 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Creep shaming is a by-product of college consent campaigns and rape hysteria.I know that's probably bullshit So in fact you guess, you assume, you prejudge. eta: the more interesting question is what do you base the assumption on. It seems to be the idea that no man could possibly be interested in you unless they want sex, or that sex is the only thing men are ever interested in. Both seem quite sexist to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/16 08:37 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A man cannot be confident with women unless he attains sexual experience.There are inexperienced guys who have confidence, social skills, and swagger That's just arrogance and ignorance - confidence without experience. They are the type to boast to their mates about things they've never done. They're fakers. It works for some men when they're young, because young girls are naive and gullible. The older you get the less likely it is to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/16 10:19 AM |
| 5 | Why hasn't TRP been banned yet?This is absolutely gender focused. The entire SRS, FPH, TRP, TBP, NBT, MRA, etc etc thing is a modern gender war. The pretence of being gender neutral is just to keep it all above reddit rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/16 07:17 PM |
| 0 | Why hasn't TRP been banned yet?What about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/16 06:46 PM |
| 10 | Why hasn't TRP been banned yet?pull an FPH and start putting photos of targets on their sideba You mean like /r/justneckbeardthings, /r/cringepics, /r/creepypms, /r/niceguys and all the other male focused hate subs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/16 06:41 PM |
| 1 | The ethics of lying to men who have been cuckolded...Some kids are likely better off not knowing who their biological father is. Ditto for their mother. It isn't for either parent to decide except at the time of conception, especially considering the mother made the decision to have the biological father's child. What benefit to the child are you speaking of, aside from wealth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 06:39 PM |
| 3 | The ethics of lying to men who have been cuckolded...Same could be said of the mother. That's for social services to sort out. The child has a right to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 05:04 PM |
| 3 | The ethics of lying to men who have been cuckolded...Except if innocent human life A is the baby, then it's not in their interest either. They grow up without their real father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/16 03:44 PM |
| 4 | I Objectify WomenWomen objectify men. It's natural. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/04/16 09:36 PM |
| 4 | On the claim that misandry doesn't exist because only women face legal institutionalized sexism...They are not disadvantaged by laws, only perceived attitudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 06:45 PM |
| 1 | On the claim that misandry doesn't exist because only women face legal institutionalized sexism...It's not just RPers that claim that, although they might agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/16 06:43 PM |
| 5 | Is it possible for a woman to bring up concerns about the relationship without it being taken as a shit test?Literally every top comment in that thread was from blue pill women saying they value tall, strong, well groomed men. Then at the bottom the very same type turn around and start circlejerking over a comment about fat women with an on topic 'superficial' BMI limit. You don't even see the hypocrisy. Of course RPers think that women that complain about tall, strong, well groomed selective men are just fat and bitter. It's exactly the same for bitter, ugly niceguys saying they hate women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/16 01:51 AM |
| 5 | Is it possible for a woman to bring up concerns about the relationship without it being taken as a shit test?https://pay.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4fdfi3/all_pills_what_is_your_guilty_superficial_nope/d27x9g7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/16 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Here's a training video for, "pushing past LMR (last-minute resistance)"Women love being ravished. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/16 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsNo, but there is also a lot of evidence that indicates the brain adapts depending on how it's used. If you spend all your time worrying and over-thinking, then your pre-frontal cortex will grow and you will become better at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/16 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsI think people who like to label themselves as introverts are actually suffering social anxiety, yes. The symptoms are the same, just that introverts are happy to live with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 02:47 PM |
| 3 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsIt drains energy because introverts find it stressful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 01:09 PM |
| 3 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertshundreds of meaningless conversations with people who are not my intellectual equal Avoidance behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsI'm not so sure. Tell me, when you are in social situations that you 'hate', do you have the feeling that you want to leave, that you are not happy? You have said you hate small talk, do you think negatively about people when they try to start talking to you because of it? These are all negative thoughts that create 'fight or flight', 'hostility or escape' responses. It's low level panic, i.e. anxiety. The problem is that it shows and people see you as uneasy or hostile, so they treat you differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:44 AM |
| 3 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsYou have negative thoughts around people. You have said in OP that you 'hate' social events. The only reason for this to develop is that you have had negative experiences which feed back through memory, thoughts and feelings into new situations. You may not see it as anxiety, but it is. You have just accepted them unquestioningly because you think that's who you are. It is referred to as default thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:28 AM |
| 7 | What are the benefits and drawbacks of being male vs female in western culturesI don't see this attitude at all in the UK. It's the stay at home benefit dependant single mothers that are condemned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:19 AM |
| 3 | What are the benefits and drawbacks of being male vs female in western culturesThey are more likely to have dependants because the courts favour them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:15 AM |
| 5 | Pretty much all seduction / dating / 'manosphere' advice that I've seen is completely useless for introvertsYou're not wired differently, there's no scientific basis for that claim. The brain is malleable, it changes according to need. Modern psychology would view the symptoms of being 'introverted', such as being uncomfortable around people, feeling lonely in a crowd, etc, as signs of social anxiety. CBT would teach you to rid yourself of such negative thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 10:07 AM |
| 10 | Q4Feminists: What feminist writings do you wish that RPers would read?This sub is for debate, not circlejerks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/16 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: when discussing TRP and the 'Anger Phase', BPers will tell RPers things like "Everyone was lied to" "Most people don't become whiney over it" "Get over it all ready", etc. Are those valid things to say or does it nonchalantly dismiss the emotions and grievances of RPers?'Get over it' seems like a typical male response to emotions - ignore it and hope it goes away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/16 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Are we speaking the same language ?Claiming that TRP is brain washing does not help, because it could be equally argued that TBP is too. Both have the illusion of group consensus, use persuasive methods, and vivid testimonials. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/16 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.They are improving themselves though. What they lack is the love of another. What is it that everyone says you need to do before another can love you? It's to love yourself, for who you are. But accepting and defending that side of themselves they gain confidence, they gain self-esteem, and in turn they become less needy, less emotionally dependent. That kind of emotional support is what leads to improvement, and it's just as likely to lead to a relationship as any RP crap. Because let's be hone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 10:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.Same goes for incels. I think that's only your opinion of them, not their own self-image. Just like how if you want to call yourself a demisexual foxkin you absolutely can, but expect others to mock you for it. So, we're down to subjective opinions. I prefer live and let live personally. Men that don't get sex and intimacy, don't get emotional support. Like all people, they need it. People hate them though, so whatever group they use to seek support is going to become vilified eventually. You're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 10:17 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] It's incredibly sexist of women to demand that the men they date don't act like assholes.Being an arsehole is a matter of perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 09:55 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.Foreveralone is a weird label, just as much as any group label is. The problem with that is it comes from a derogatory internet meme. By accepting the label you are accepting a negative self-image. It would be like fat people creating a group called fatpeoplehate as a support group. I'm curious why you care what groups people form for support? Why are some acceptable and others not? The fact that there are people like you attacking them for their beliefs and social groups is probably why some so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 06:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.I don't know, I have no clue where the incel part of your previous discussion comes from. eta: But if I were to guess, it is to discuss the issue with a similar peer group for support, one which isn't openly hostile to your existence and won't create social repercussions in real life. And to seek some form of self-acceptance and esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 01:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthIs social IQ the same as emotional IQ now? And sure there is a link, but humour is often a sign of emotional problems too. The class clown acting up to cover their low self esteem, the comedian covering their depression, etc. Often I find people with the sharpest wit are simply people with the shortest distance between their mouth and their brain, if you catch my drift. That's not social IQ, they're socially oblivious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 01:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthI don't deny that intelligence is attractive. I'm just not sure 'social IQ' is real intelligence, nor that popular people are necessarily intelligent. If anything I'd say the attractive quality of popular people is rooted in their social power (if that's the right word), it's a pecking order thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 01:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.Sympathy just doesn't cut it though, it's no real solution. But in fact, if I were to share that with any male friends, it would be the main piss taking topic for weeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 01:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthThe whole point of an IQ is that it's innate, to define it otherwise is to make it meaningless. "this is easier for me, so subconsciously I will tend to value it and focus on it more". I think it's like the old idiom: Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. What's easy for them is easy for everyone. They become better at it because it is all they can do. In fact in my experience it may even be a benefit that highly social people are not so clever. They make mistakes, they fuck up socially a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 02:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthYou don't think some people just naturally have more likeable qualities? You seem to think it's all just intentional manipulation and focus to be more popular. Honestly people that only care about being popular and cool tend to be shallow as fuck imo. Besides that, can you define social IQ? You seem to be saying it's an acquired skill, rather than an innate quality. That's just conflating it with social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 01:27 AM |
| 1 | "I want someone who likes me for me" - What counts? Looks? Status? Money?Because I was enjoying reading the debate until you two ruined it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:47 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.Sorry, you're wrong there. Any flickering hint that you are lonely as a man puts you in the needy, clingy, creepy category. You will get pity, if you are lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:35 AM |
| 0 | "I want someone who likes me for me" - What counts? Looks? Status? Money?Circlejerk might not be right. I guess it was more like wrapping yourselves up in bubblewrap. Can't argue the point directly so spend 20+ comments slagging off your antagonist indirectly while telling yourselves that you were right all along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women experience sexual frustration, men experience sexual isolation.It's not to be more masculine. Sex and emotional well being are inseparable. Men that have no problem getting sex can take the emotional side of it for granted and so sex can be simply a masculine desire. Men that cannot get it need the emotional side first. That's why desperate men are so clingy, needy and can be creepy. You can't fill that hole by seeing a prostitute, it's just meaningless and degrading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/16 12:14 AM |
| 0 | "I want someone who likes me for me" - What counts? Looks? Status? Money?What a massive, bullshit, circlejerk that was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 11:51 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthAnd it would look shite. The devil is in the detail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 11:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women value men with "style" because it's shorthand for wealthWhy do you associate high social IQ with popularity? I've met plenty of seriously stupid (in every way) people that were popular because of a character trait or two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/16 11:28 PM |
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