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Christ almighty shut the fuck up! You don't know what you don't know and you're a TRPer because you started off this whole thing by being socially inept on some level. Quit pretending you fucking understand everything because you read a bunch of redpiller propaganda that's just all badly interpreted social theory. Fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 05:52 PM
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Find me someone who says, verbatim, that TRP is "abusive." You've been here for years, how have you not figured this out yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 07:16 AM
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AWALT is one of those red pill propaganda words that, yeah, depending on the user is going to mean different things from person to person. IMO, to answer your question, it's not about what AWALT "means" so much as what it's supposed to be used for. Why have AWALT? We all know that every redpiller will hump anything that moves. What difference does it make to them? It makes no difference, all AWALT stands to do is to make women more approachable by--and how many RPers have said THIS before?!--tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:58 PM
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This is all presumptive bullshit that doesn't even address the issue that Rpers by nature are more socially inept and just don't know what they are or aren't getting wrong. This whole fucking manifesto demonstrates why TRP doesn't deserve intellectual honesty. You all act like audacious cunts because you "have nothing left to lose?" This is absurdly entitled and naive beyond words. Also don't fucking tell me that right-wingers are more logical. "Lefties" fundamentally understand global warming a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:37 PM
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The problem is that this discussion is always circular in nature. What you have is not a "serious question" because it serves to undermine actual criticism by feigning surprise at a perfectly reasonable reaction to TRP--all of it. TRPers are just so lost in exactly how nuts TRP is because they surround themselves constantly with this socially inept social audacity they draw confidence and power from. TRPers shouldn't be surprised when people they painted as the out-group enemy respond in kind. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 09:51 PM
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TRP has completely normalized explosive, seething, belligerent rage as "the anger phase" and after all that, WE'RE the mentally ill ones? The anger phase is such a normal, natural part of TRP that it's as natural as the number two resting between numbers one and three. If we have brutally honest criticism, we aren't allowed to share it, but RPers demand maximum submission to their verbal abuse and audacity. Hell Gaylubeoil came around a few days ago demanding the leeway to be MORE audacious and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 08:34 PM
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I've just now had an epiphany: when was the last time you actually heard dating advice like this in person? I ask because it's dawned on me that it is very likely that we first heard this advice in high school, but then once we started putting such advice into practice (assuming you're successful in getting into a relationship at that point), the nature and application of that advice changed. For example, Lewiscross (on top of plenty of other RPers) stipulates that "be yourself" equates directly…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:25 PM
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lol do they notice? Do they care? The fact that, yeah no shit I owned them, isn't actually going to affect their behavior. Like Drok read this and was like "lmao where was my quote?" They're so ignorant that they don't even know what to do with evidence that indicts them. Yeah I'm fucking done with all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:52 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 06:10 PM
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Stop! You're just saying more cringey shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:21 PM
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if you watch porn you're a cuck What the fuck? Read that out loud and tell me that's not cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:05 PM
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And it's cringey. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:54 PM
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But I have to take everything every redpiller says at face fucking value, don't I? If I have an issue with RP concepts I have to go to TRP and read your literal fucking propaganda sidebar, don't I? I have to take this SO seriously while you can just fart out "alternative facts." I have no reason to lie to you about consistent observations I've made over the course of years. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4ppzaw/q4rp_what_do_you_think_a_day_in_the_life_of_a/d4nfrud/ https://ww…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:45 PM
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It's a record of things redpillers have said. Why would the word "circlejerk" come anywhere near this. These are all unrelated comments typically on unrelated threads spread out over years. It's OK to just drop the act of audacity and witness the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:06 PM
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Warning: This is long. The entire premise of TRP is audacity through self-written legitimacy and abusing the requirement of intellectual honesty in a "discussion" which is why this sub is a fucking trashcan fire. Behold RPers in PPD: "What's the point of this question? We understand women better than women do. No need to prove it with lots of verbiage. " "It offends I know guys who fist fought over it haha. I'm anti-cuck but I can be because I don't watch porn. You don't have to be a poly weirdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:44 PM
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Proving. My. Point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:29 PM
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We DO make fun of RPers, but we don't GET to make fun of RPers. And RPers point that out until the cows come home like that fact gives them the right to be audacious about their subtextual hate. This is what every single hate group operates on now, by the way. It's why the sheer existence of TBP's sub is used as a bludgeon to de legitimize complaints about abusive audacity it TRP's messages, goals, upvoted users and supporters, and endorsed contributors. Therefore any RPer can say "you're retard…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:13 PM
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But I don't get to return this statement, do you get that yet? I don't get to say some dismissive shit like "Pot meet kettle" and if I did you would demand I treat you with a higher level of academic integrity. Do you understand the fundamental moral quandary RPers intentionally place BPers in? I have to missy pissy tippy toes over your loaded terminology and you can just REACT however you want. Yet you demand I take the time to RESPOND. You don't deserve that and I get to say that. You can keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 08:32 PM
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Put me on ignore But that separates you from the--what--7 years and equal number of alts of responsibility that you should be taking and you just get to keep on being you--audacious you--and demanding safe spaces and academic legitimacy. Which is--can you tell this is my favorite word right now? Audacious. It's absolutely audacious--and this applies to the entire subreddit's RP populace--that I HAVE to treat you with a minimum amount of respect which even THEN begets the maximum amount of dismis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 08:06 PM
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I don't get many PMs, so that one's just always been there. When I see a post like this and see someone like Atlas go "Who, me?" The situation basically demands my input. People don't just get to be this audacious and then pretend they deserve academic legitimacy. They don't. Come on, you wouldn't marry this woman, and you could probably tell me why. And that would be the one thing we would ever agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:56 PM
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What's your point? How is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:44 PM
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How is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:35 PM
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I guess you can't read. You PMed me: "get ass cancer you disgusting degenerate drooling faggot. i will report every comment you make to me until you are banned. im not allowed to fight back or ill get banned, so your comments will always be immediately reported and removed" And you just sort of talk like that anyways. You understand this perfectly. Your feigned ignorance in the face of convicting evidence is fucking audacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:33 PM
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Oh fuck off you PMed me "get ass cancer you disgusting degenerate drooling faggot. i will report every comment you make to me until you are banned. im not allowed to fight back or ill get banned, so your comments will always be immediately reported and removed" LMAO if you haven't been banned yet, then for whatever reason you won't be. But holy fuck you should have about 300 times over. That's just in MY experience. But because you're you, you get away with it. Because you are literally the wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:24 PM
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Anything RPers can't relate to is degeneracy. BDSM? Degeneracy. Moderate Alcohol use? Degeneracy. Ketchup on eggs? Degeneracy. They can't let people enjoy the things that they enjoy because RPers have set such an entitled standard for just what they EXPECT from the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:56 PM
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Yeah. If you know a person is full of shit, then obviously watch what they do and not what they say. It's not fucking gendered. However, RP applies it to literally any time a woman says anything at all. Women just aren't taken seriously as human beings by Rpers. It's just another mindset workaround dogwhistle that enables emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:24 PM
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What all RP concepts have in common--and what all RPers and PPers themselves share--is the straight up and simple distrust of women. When have you ever seen a field report or anything like that where an RP man actually DELEGATES anything to a woman--out of trust, no less? We saw this in a thread last week when Exit_sandman or somebody said, literally, that he didn't trust women in positions of power because they "think differently." They treat women like a different species while pretending they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 04:12 PM
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Surprise, surprise, we're talking to the flat-earthers of sexuality and gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 10:14 AM
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Jesus Christ it's not like she's going to be swallowing your cum and then spitting it out all over your kid either. According to your logic, though, that's something your kid actually needs to be concerned about. Are you concerned about the last time your gf threw up each time you kiss her? No. Because shit changes. Bodies change. Cells die and new ones grow in their place. Quit making this about some sensationalist call for matronly purity that has never actually existed. Do you remember how ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:28 PM
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In opposition to a kink, which you don't necessarily need to get off. a fetish is a whole meal whereas a kink is just extra flavoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 01:09 AM
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cucking cuckolds You're not going to tell me there's a fucking difference. You guys didn't invent a fucking word. It's the same shit. Stop trying to screw over language with your shitty dog-whistles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 06:29 PM
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Polyamory isn't a fetish, it's a relationship style. A fetish is something you NEED to get off. If it's not present, at all, you can't get off. THAT'S a fetish. That's not my relationship. Again, you're not doing your homework and you obviously didn't read what I said. Even if I were bona fide "cuck" I'd still get the same strength from the same place: TRUST IN MY SO. Cuckolds still have conversations about their boundaries and what it entails. It isn't healthy otherwise. This is shit that you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 08:54 PM
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I'm poly. it's not behind my back. It's often times been right there in front of me. I also have the same right. You all miss that and assume that it's a one-way street. If it were, I wouldn't be poly. I've heard of stories like that and everyone poly who hears those stories say that those kinds of relationships aren't healthy unless both parties really are into that. Like this is why I love how you guys claim to be the paragons of "male sexuality" when you then go bash something you can't be bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:56 PM
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I'm offended because they don't get it and clearly don't want to (poly-wise). At the same time, I'm primarily amused because they're projecting a weakness THEY have that's actually a STRENGTH for me and an underscore in trust for not just my gf but my metamour also. It also goes both ways. RPers will never have that trust nor will they give it. That makes me strong. Tl;dr: cuck stronk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:11 PM
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Jesus this fucking subreddit. You can summarize everything you said with "looking at fertility." It's creepy. Pretending what I'm saying is callous in any sense while not responding to the overall point reveals who really is being disingenuous. Try a new perspective one day. Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:13 AM
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I love this thread because you couldn't ask for an easier negative point about RPers to prove. They've said it themselves: RPers come to RP so that they can circumvent social convention and get laid more efficiently. That involves having a certain level of social perceptions that Rpers themselves have said they lack. Of COURSE discussing fertility in women is creepy. They don't know her, they don't trust her (not the least of which is because they're RPers and don't trust women anyways), they ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:57 PM
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...Well yeah. I've been saying this forever. If you want to date somebody, make friends. Create abundance. If you ask most people how they met, it's usually that they met through friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 10:00 PM
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Again. Again. it's the idea that "the bigots are right" and then you turn around and accuse me of being "hysterically female" and expect me to continue to be intellectual honesty that's absurd. I'm perfectly coherent, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. It's perfectly clear, when at this point, you continue to say "well he's lied about everything so far, let's see what happens." It obvious to everyone with a brain what's going to happen if you look at his past and what his spending has been all about and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 08:18 PM
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Did you read the post? This is what I'm talking about. It's taking the genuine, thought-out response that I've been generating over the past couple years and saying "well it doesn't matter because I'm not taking you seriously anyways." And this is why we can't really talk to each other and this is why I don't think Rpers haven't communicated in situations where they promised me they have. Because you start talking past me the minute you see a challenging word or phrase even though I have to sit …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 09:11 PM
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I don't think you get that we see the "hypocrisy" there, we just don't care. Bigots don't care that non-bigots will make good-faith arguments because they'll just take advantage of that good faith and twist words and concepts without even wrestling with it or displaying a challenge of it. It will just be an outright refusal to look. At. The fucking. Point. Like this, right here "well the non-bigots are the real bigots." We don't care. The bigots have earned every ounce of intellectual dishonesty…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:28 PM
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How often is sometimes? Who do you know for whom catcalling has worked? And who do you know for whom catcalling worked better than ANY OTHER DECENT SEXUAL STRATEGY? Catcalling is at the bottom of the list. I get why you wanted to do this CMV--to be smugly correct at bluepillers about something completely asinine and in that, you won. Because, yeah, it's "valid." Walking 20 miles to and from work everyday is also "valid." It's just wildly fucking impractical and has too many obvious side effects …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:08 PM
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It's a valid strategy, it's just a useless strategy. Sure, it's cutting the whole act of courtship right down to the bare bones, but if people you don't know approach you off the streets offering you work, are you excited about a random opportunity the universe threw out there? No. You're sketched out and you're not going to accept work from some rando on the street. And you are likely a goddamn fool if you do. It COULD work out well for you? But it's a numbers game on your end and a numbers gam…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:52 AM
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I don't know, it's disingenuous either way, IMO. What's stopping those particular people from eventually acting like an asshole to me? More likely than anything, their degree of "patience."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 02:27 AM
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Because we're threatened. We're afraid. You guys are angry and empowered. The assaults, the killings, the suicides, these all happened immediately after Trump was elected. We didn't call for Trump's death during the election. We laughed because there was no way you can ignore the disturbing signs of what he wanted to do. During his acceptance speech, you can hear someone shout "kill Obama." By the way, Republicans protested once Obama was elected because they thought he was some kind of Muslim S…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 08:24 PM
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There's a body count. People are being harassed and assaulted in the streets. It's all because you elected a nazi and the nazis are being nazis now. Oh, and Trump is now changing his mind on being anti-establishment, so at best we're Fundamentalist Christian Sharia state where you literally won't be able to have sex again without there being some minute chance that, despite using BC, you very well could end up with a child you don't want. Every. Time. You. Fuck. And I have access to ten PERSONAL…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 06:01 PM
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I don't know, ask the nazis who came thinking about it this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 03:25 PM
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The fact that you can say that highlights your privelege. There are 2,000,000 Hispanics that are going to be deported. A chunk of them will be killed. If they have pets, their pets will be killed. All because you nazis are OK with killing brown people because it makes you cum. We're already seeing a spike in hate speech and and we're already seeing a spike in schoolyard bullying. Yes, the sky is falling and a lot is going to change. 8 have lost their lives already. How many more are you just tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 08:18 AM
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When you look at when he says things like "nobody is bigger or better at the military than I am", and he's a draft-dodger, he's not a smart man. Oh he also insulted veterans who were POWs. Did I mention he's a draft-dodger? He has no business being in a position he doesn't have the discipline make work. Mike Pence is going to take away access to abortion and contraceptives period. But Hillary was going to take away your things that kill people, so that's more important, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:38 AM
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Donald Trump has no idea what he's doing and RPers and Trump supporters are celebrating putting a todler in the driver's seat and then they're being smug assholes about never being able to have sex again (seriously what's your plan when your girl can't get an abortion or afford the pill?). People are killing themselves and people HERE are then demonstrating that they don't even care about this country. Tell me why I shouldn't be outraged at these dumbasses. Tell me why it's going to be OK when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:20 AM
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Basically just changing what I said yesterday to past tense: You basically made a 17 year-old bus boy CEO of a multi-million-dollar international corporation. For God's sake, Hillary's been doing this longer than most of us have been alive. Like what was your problem? Like seriously it was absolutely no contest. Trump isn't diplomatic for shit and he wants to represent America as its example of what "pure American" looks like? He'll say things like "nobody is bigger or better at the military tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:15 PM
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You know what got us here? We wanted to kill Brown people and we invaded Iraq, said "mission accomplished" 3 weeks in and were then there for 10 years more. You know what got us here? We wanted to keep killing brown people and sacrificed education to do so. And we've done that for far too long. We wanted Vietnam. Fuck you, education. Wanted war on drugs. Fuck you, education. We wanted our kids to be religious, yet faithless. Fuck you, education. We wanted our kids to grow up not knowing how to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:26 PM
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Clinton because you wouldn't make a 17 year-old bus boy CEO of a multi-million-dollar international corporation. Like seriously it's absolutely no contest. Trump isn't diplomatic for shit and he wants to represent America as its example of what "pure American" looks like? He'll say things like "nobody is bigger or better at the military than I am" and you're STILL going to vote for him? A DRAFT DODGER making that claim with ass grammar and you're STILL going to vote for him? He'll say he's going…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 06:23 PM
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I'm just gonna say that if you do dirty talk with shit grammar, I'm not cumming. I don't care how hot you are. Though I guess it might be excusable with ESL folk? I haven't been in that situation, though, so we'll see on that one. On the other hand, I've impressed people with my dirty talk. Stupid people can't talk dirty for shit. Of course there's all the subjective stuff that goes with that. I also suppose that it's assumed that if you're intelligent, you're going to be sexually mindful of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:35 PM
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Sexuality is on a spectrum. It's not "gay" per se, but it's not traditional Christian straight, for sure. But RP never talks about THAT social lie, do they? That there are so many guys who have sex with other guys akin to the straightplaying thing the male gaze has singled out with women and put on display. I say I'm bi for the sake of convenience because I am attracted to both men and women and but I don't watch nearly enough gay porn, for example. So I've been trying to figure it whether I do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:38 PM
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Calling it the god phase is exactly the problem here. Ciswhitemaelstrom, that EC I mentioned who raped, would probably also call it the god phase. And unirconically believe that his rapist ass supported by Redpillschool is in the god phase. Oh and redpillschool probably thinks he's in the god phase, too. Even though he flung his boner over Atlas_B_Shruggin forming redpillwives and quitting redpillwomen for months. Like these are people who want you to believe exactly what you're telling me, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:31 PM
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Yeah, you got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 08:18 PM
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So who are the real RPers? What you just said? This anger phase bullshit? These are things I've read from ECs. For God's sake, Ciswhitemaelstrom was endorsed and he admitted to raping somebody. He said something just like this. I read it. In this subreddit. It got upvoted. Now everyone on RP pretends they totally didn't support him or the things he said. So these are the same people who come in and will say EXACTLY what you're telling me. That they're the "smart" redpillers. That they "get it." …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:00 PM
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Seriously, RPers need to quit talking about "SJWism" and feminism like it's ISIS. They've already forgotten that they're the flat-earthers of sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:01 PM
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It's completely fucking lunatic and disingenuous. It's just intellectually dishonest for redpillers to say that "women" slut shame more than THEY do. That's ridiculous. I'm sure there are GROUPS of women of who slut shame more than GROUPS of men, but that group of men isn't redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:41 PM
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Because RP tells you to. It says it's in your best interest to hide such a thing because they know people will react rationally to hearing that information. But let's get back on task here: n-count doesn't matter. It's not being hidden because it's important to the people hiding it, it's being hidden because it's irrationally important to the people it's being hidden from. I don't know how much more cleanly and concisely I can say that. These women who sleep around understand far more than any R…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:30 PM
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Did you not read the rest of the post? Because the conclusions are widespread. There was a time when doctors, who went to medical school, said smoking was healthy. Try that now. See this is my point, you guys DO THIS. You guys are DOING this thing women are doing, you are HAVING the same sex. You can't tell me that redpill men are perfectly well able to commit to a single partner (which to me is the joke here) meanwhile a woman, any fucking woman, has surrendered the capacity once her n-count cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:16 PM
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Why are you hiding something that you supposedly don't think is bad? Because the information isn't important and has had a bunch of false correlations drawn between that information and other habits and seriously the sketchiest conclusions have come out of that. With slut shaming, when I hear shit like sluts aren't loyal, let me tell you what's going on: When a woman (or man, you guys YOURSELVES are guilty of this, you TEACH each other to do this and you EXPECT to be treated better and taken ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:56 PM
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Who said that? Nobody said that. My point was that you're asking "where have all the sane, healthy-living women gone? All the men are sane and healthy-living. Why aren't the women as smart as the men?" That's BASICALLY what you're asking. My point is that men and women take stupid risks. This has nothing to do with your specific example, this has everything to do with the stupid conclusion you use your example to underscore. But it doesn't work like that. You've HEARD of hedonistic men doing stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:57 PM
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Huh, how about that? Disingenuous RPer disingenuously projects behavior everyone does onto a specific 50% of people who do that behavior. A hardworking, reasonably good looking tech entrepreneur is also a sex worker-renting cokehead who's subscribed to Ashley Madison? Only the disingenuous Rpers think that's not possible. Most men AND women want to take stupid risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:43 PM
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They DO enjoy doing those things! That's why conservatism is always more fraught with controversy. Gay-hating senator: gay. Anti-porn governer: watches porn. Anti-drug O'Reily: Does drugs. I could go on. These people are so drawn into the social magic of "family values" they forget that it's possible to live in both worlds and nobody knows or--gasp--cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:42 PM
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Because it's not like you're going to sticky a post to the top of RP correcting the obviously wrong shit. You'll just sit there while anger phas-ers get encouraged to adopt the wrong conclusions about life. Then you'll smugly roll up in here saying you didn't adopt the wrong conclusions ergo RPers are perfectly healthy, normal people. Then I'll see a comment on the same fucking thread saying shit like "Ahhh the good old days. Why waste time doing things with women that's not fucking? Not like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:35 PM
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yet another shining example of why this sub is a joke. Men built society as it is today And women raised the children that became those men. They worked together. They always have and they always will. We can't just take away one whole gender and then assume the machine will run exactly as well or (far more laughably) better. Women are HALF of the population. And men are the other half. One gender didn't just decide to push the "go" button. Women had to spend literally their entire lives pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:09 PM
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It's not even about what people like, it's about not putting people down for not subscribing to a broken model. When Alexander the Great just so happened to have sucked dick AND conquered Persia, we as men have absolutely no right to say to young boys "sucking dick does not make you a real man." Because first of all, nobody cares what they don't know about. The whole problem with toxic masculinity is that it's a dogma and not a simple encouragement or suggestion that it is possible to use your m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:31 PM
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The existence of the frontal lobe effectively ends the discussion of women being children or mentally underdeveloped somehow in comparison to men. The discussion ends here. I never want to see any other equivalency stating that women are like children or are childish out of nature ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:25 PM
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Hey mods? Can I point out that this is why this sub is a joke? This? Right here? Since you won't believe the same definition every other fucking person here gave you, let me respond to your most common retorts: First question: do you agree that children are less than adults? Second question: do you hate children? Third question: Do children have fully developed frontal lobes? No. Do legal-aged women (and men, for that matter)? Almost. It stops developing at 25 years old, about. That's the best y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:32 PM
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GODDAMN seriously. How does it make sense that you have one gender with an overcompensating sex drive and one gender that does everything it can to avoid it? It scientifically does not make sense. Life doesn't care who the daddy is. Give the mommy all the daddies. Give her all the babies. If reproduction truly is the name of the game, then what point does have of the population not having a sex drive serve? And if it's truly that true, why wouldn't society continually have an allowed culture of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:52 PM
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This has nothing to do with being alpha. At all. The alpha/beta dynamic so completely oversimplifies everything that it doesn't exist in reality. It has everything to do with taking my partner seriously. All I need to do to know RPers don't try to communicate is to see how fucking disingenuous they are with their responses. That's my response: Be genuine. RP doesn't want you to be genuine, it wants you to give specific, canned responses that are in time going to be passed around the SMP and will…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:53 PM
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Quit with the disingenuous bullshit. You are RP so you can get attention. That is literally the point of RP. Like, I'm not allowed to say some sex-obsessed misogynists are doing RP bullshit for attention (which they are. ECs have said they are.), but then you get to turn around and ASSUME WITHOUT RESEARCH OR PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE that this is what asexual people are doing. I mean what the fuck? Asexual people are perfectly fucking functional but "herp derp they're doing it for attention"? Straight …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:00 PM
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Talk to an actual asexual person about this before you jump to "special snowflake" bullshit. RP is about making special snowflakes who are too smart to fall for Disney. Which also isn't normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:47 PM
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I think it's a both-ways kind of seeking of shallowness that is more about casual sex then relationships. In the same vein that these guys will say "fuck sluts who don't have their shit together because they're easy," it occurs to me that certain women could just as easily say, "Fuck guys who don't have they're shit together because they're reliably unreliable and I'm not looking for a relationship where I need to stress whether this guy can even take care of himself." Hence, they can in a shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:41 PM
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Everything RPers don't understand is always supposed to be some kind of attention-seeking behavior. Yet I'm still supposed to take you seriously. Like why do you think you're even RP? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:34 PM
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LOL none of that would actually happen. Like, we tried talking about it? And things DIDN'T change? Usually when we sit down to talk about something, it's serious. We've both invested a lot into this relationship so we, well, take each other seriously. Beyond everything else, we're just a really sexual couple. There IS no "what if your SO stopped having sex you." I mean seriously? but that she still loves you and finds you attractive. The only situation I can think of that sounds remotely close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:33 PM
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So you like to fuck people with penises?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 03:09 AM
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Ok then, for all intents and purposes, nobody likes to be sexually assaulted. Fuck your disingenuous bullshit. You could have just downvoted "who cares" and moved on. You don't care. You don't care SO HARD. You don't care so hard that you sat here replying to me a good 10 times instead of just downvoting and moving on. At the same time, how COULD you care? You aren't fucking invested in this. It's a reasonable generalization, saying that nobody likes to be sexually assaulted. Fuck your disingenu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 04:12 PM
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It's seriously the generalization you're concerned about? Not, like, "sexual assault isn't THAT bad" above my comment? That's like totally cool? But the idea that I figure that this fringe-ass group of people whose kink puts everyone involved and more in danger doesn't really need heavily nuanced representation in a reasonable generalization meant to point out the absurdity of the idea I was refuting is just unacceptable? Like if I had said "almost nobody wants to be assaulted you just would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 12:25 AM
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I said my bad. That the guy above you said that. But this is my thing, and I'll make this fast. The discussion I was having above didn't even include the type of people you mentioned. They enjoy it. The whole context is about sexual assault as a crime, which is what people like the ones you're referring to don't even care about it. It doesn't even affect them on that level, that's how weird and rare they are. They don't even pertain to the discussion. What was the point of bringing them up? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:16 PM
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That was the original context of this entire thread. That's why you're here. Because people like you get to make these sweeping generalizations about everything in the most obtuse, dense, vulgar, violent, ignorant, sexist, racist, absolutist manner but I can't even say a controversial statement like "nobody likes to be sexually assaulted" because I have to make claims like this in a way that caters to your delicate rhetorical palate. No reducto ad absurdum for me, right? I just have to meekly wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:05 PM
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I'm not red pill "Sexual assault isn't THAT bad!" Neither is Drok or Gavinok, but they do this same bullshit where they say things RPers say and defend things RPers think then pretend they aren't them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:51 PM
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but the woman's feelings are the ONLY arbiter. ...And the choice. I think that's the important distinction here. There was a choice with one and not with the other. I don't know why that's not important here. I don't know why things should be less important just because there are fewer...I don't know...physical consequences? It just seems surface level to me. Like the violation of choice beyond your terms in all walks of life is, at the very least, anxiety inducing. Didn't people used to like, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:47 PM
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You just really super emphasised how you were speaking on behalf of absolutely everyone in the world when you aren't, that's all. But RPers get to make sweeping absolutes about the nature of everything with bullshit pseudoscience you actually have to put effort into believing, but I don't get to care about THAT, do I? I don't get to speak up about THAT, do I? Because if I do, I'm just a naive little faggot, aren't I? You really don't care about this. Quit pretending to be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:41 PM
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But your absolute statement is incorrect. Who cares? Is it seriously these petty victories for you guys that do it? You don't know anyone like this, I don't know anyone like this. Nobody either of us knows knows anyone like this. Who cares? For all intents and purposes, nobody likes to be sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:29 PM
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just wondering how big of a crime it really is. I guess I just don't get what there is to wonder. Nobody likes it, it's inappropriate behavior, it ignores consent, and you're downplaying the implications of all that like, "Well it's not exactly like she was kidnapped by a terrorist cell, held for ransom, had her clit fried off by car battery acid, and was ultimately beheaded on the internet."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:08 PM
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treat rape as something amazingly horrible, deeply violating, while simultaneously celebrating all other sex between anyone and everyone as necessarily positive It's the context, you get that right? You might enjoy sex, you might love it. But you don't enjoy sex literally all the time with literally all people. See that's the thing about consent: it's engaging in one of the most intimate acts on your terms. There's an element of safety that just isn't there with rape. Opposingly so, in fact. Why…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 06:47 PM
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Nobody likes being sexually assaulted, that's the thing. Anywhere in the world, nobody likes it. It's not enjoyable. Yet you're acting like an irrational thing to being desired in one context and not literally every single context without his or her say so. If you do the same mild slapping that goes on inside bedrooms usually, you will get away with a formal fine. I just don't get your point. It's all about the context: You can be slapped in a certain place by a certain person with a certain amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 06:43 PM
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Wow holy shit. This can't be real. This seriously can't be real. OK let's actually get real for a second: Sexual assault is unpleasant. It has been unpleasant forever. Most people who are sexually assaulted--any culture anywhere--DO NOT LIKE IT. If you like being slapped in bed, you like being slapped in bed. If someone slaps you outside of that context (that's the important word here, context) you will feel hurt, even though in the bedroom it turns you on. Because there's a context there. The c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 06:13 PM
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I will never care about a glass sitting by the sink. Ever. It’s impossible. It’s like asking me to make myself interested in crocheting, or to enjoy yardwork. I don’t want to crochet things. And it’s hard for me to imagine a scenario in which doing a bunch of work in my yard sounds more appealing than ANY of several thousand less-sucky things which could be done. This is why you got divorced, dude. You took a completely inconsequential devotation of 15 seconds at most of taking some dish soap an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 05:54 PM
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HOW IS IT PRODUCTIVE? https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/anger-how-it-affects-people The only thing you can do with anger is to use the adrenaline to exercise...in order to wear yourself out to the point where you no longer feel angry. It's like saying depression and anxiety are healthy. People spend their lives avoiding these feelings. They release hormones that are bad for you in situations that aren't you fighting a wild animal. Which is everything everyday life isn't. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:55 PM
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Getting fucked in the ass or whatever doesn't become masculine just because some men start doing it. LOL but in Rome, with two men, as long as you were doing the fucking you magically weren't gay an were still totally masculine! We have, for millenia found ways to socialize certain currently-effeminate behaviors with masculinity just to have an excuse to do them and still pretend we're in the box. Kids in the amazon weren't men until they sucked a dick lol. Like what is that? Find a 14 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 04:29 PM
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You can feel it, you just can't expect to throw a hissy fit at the grocer and think you'll get your way any better than if you were just polite. We're designed to feel anger but there are very few situations in society where it works for anything. My list shows way more detriments in common social situations than any uses at all. Like what use is social anger? What does that do for anybody? You're just losing frame and putting yourself deeper in a negative headspace rather than dealing with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 03:47 PM
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No. We've done this thing where I was talking about Toxic masculinity and you wanted to deny it because it has the word "masculinity" it. Look, if you guys get to defend "single mothers are scum" and then suck redpillschool's dick despite his god-awful choices of ECs that basically prove the entire RP system to be wrong, then you can just plain fucking handle the concept of toxic masculinity existing. All RP is is "you aren't a real man if you're having lots of sex" anyways. They're the ones tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 03:41 PM
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Because it's socialized from day one to be at least be stanched until an appropriate outlet is reached. You aren't freaking out at the job interviewer because you didn't get the job. Normal, well-adjusted people don't do that because they've been socialized well enough to know better. Yeah, public outbursts are common enough, but what's more common are facebook outbursts after the fact. Or reddit outbursts. Or outbursts in front of family. The anger comes out at a more appropriate juncture (that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:01 AM
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Fuck off with your smug-ass RP bullshit. Most people are civil with each other most of the time. Bullying is rarer than it is common, common though it may be particularly with kids. People are more often civil because things just work better like that. People actively choose the path of least resistance and bullying is just putting up a resistance front. Normal people do not bully. It is a sign of mal-adjustment and an allowance of childish behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:58 AM
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No. Normal people don't say normal people bully. You obviously have a fucked up surrounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:51 AM
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You can't just sit here and justify bullying because of your feels and then turn around and mock triggers and such alongside RPers. Edit: Express it to your buddies. Express it to your psychologist. Not the person turning you down. How hard is this to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:49 AM
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You're saying many would make arguments in favor of bullying because it's a way of killing people. I disagree because you could land up in jail. In fact, you're saying this just to get a rise. Normal people don't respond to this topic like this. Normal people don't interact like this. Normal people don't say "many people support bullying."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:47 AM
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You are not being negatively affected because you can't scream at some girl walking down the street rejecting your advances is such a bitch for rejecting you and such a slut for just so happening to walk in your fucking proximity. It's called being civil. You can be as emotional as you damn well please. But be fucking reasonable about it like normal people. Be mad at Obama. Whatever. Cry at your grandma's funeral. Whatever. Laugh at a funny movie. Whatever. Genuinely be enthusiastic about whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:45 AM
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You're fine with bullying people with death.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:08 AM
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Because the dad in 800 AD would just let his 3rd 14 year-old son bitch about having to work the fields?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:06 AM
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Many, huh? Fucking redpillest thing I've ever heard. Are you serious? Bullying kills people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:02 AM
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Anger in combat: Predicible Anger in social situations: Alienation and unreasonabiility Anger in driving: Fucking road rage car crash Anger in anything: impatience to recognize and deal with nuance It's the most useless emotion in almost every scenario. It literally makes you not think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:59 AM
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I'm not sure how you extrapolated that I am justifying bullying ...From the context. If you ask a girl out or say she's sexy out of nowhere or whatever and she declines your advance and you get visibly and verbally angry and abusive, you're bullying someone. We all feel anger And we don't have hissy fits in public. It looks childish. This behavior is regulated from day one. You vent to your buddies or your SO or your therapist. You don't freak out at the job interviewer because he or she didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:41 AM
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Oh well shit changes. Traditional sociological definitions (like thousands of years old) literally are never adhered to IRL. Seriously you guys take gender identity like it's strict dogma, yet it's HANDLED exactly like strict dogma: people ignore the majority of it and are just fine. Alexander the Great sucked dick. What now? Seriously where do you go from here? I mean prince and David Bowie would like to talk to you about masculine=success. Right now we've got who? Jonas Brothers and Justin Bie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:12 AM
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Oh well. If you angrily whine because you don't get something, you're going to continue to not get that thing. Worse yet, expressed anger gets you or someone else injured, costs someone money in some way, makes someone feel shitty, or some other consequence you could deal with by simply reflecting rather than reacting. Raw expressed anger is the least useful emotion in literally all circumstances. Being openly angry just makes you look impatient and childish. If you were rejected, getting angry …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:00 AM
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And yet we have those Republican senators voted into office that hate gay people yet turn out to be gay. The assumption is, more often than we think it is, wrong. Bisexuality isn't a norm, but it's easily concealable and believe me it's there. But it's just way to oconvenient to be a label while casually being something else entirely because you have your smokescreen girlfriend or whatever that makes you look innocuous enough. It's not me not being able to handle something thinking something abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:06 AM
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Seriously? It's not about distinction, it's about the distinction being an objective insult. Being a woman is an insult. Why would any woman give blowjobs? Being a cocksucker is an insult. Why would she choke on your dick? Choking on a dick is an insult. Yet men do it all the time and they still HAVE dicks. They can still BE masculine. It doesn't fucking matter, yet we allow our language to make it look like it matters. We tie these activities in with the very core of our existences like it even…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:37 AM
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I think men are more inherently prone to violence And falling for that urge more often than not results in bad results one way or the other, like it or not. It's something that's easier NOT to get into due to the amount of energy it requires. Most people figure that out quickly. Those who literally can't control it have problems. It's got nothing to do with a blank slate and everything to do with basic self-control. frustration and anger is a normal reaction It's normal to feel, not to express. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:31 AM
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Where do you GET this shit? No. Men not wanting to act like women is not toxic masculinity. What is toxic masculinity is your surface-level assumption that eating cum is exclusively "the woman's" activity here. If you're afraid of cum exclusively because it's the thing women are supposed to deal with, that is by definition toxic masculinity and you have no right to deny it. You aren't helping future generations of men by telling them they can't do it, it's just not a helpful thing to associate m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:27 AM
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Yeah but choosing to display that anger in a childish tantrum because you aren't getting what you want isn't normal. It's behavior that has been regulated from the beginning of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:01 AM
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By that logic, being able to read and write isn't normal. Yet after a year when we're young of figuring it out, it becomes second nature to almost everybody. By that logic almost nobody in the Western world is normal. It turns out that getting angry at a job interviewer for not giving you a job doesn't get you the job. You're not getting sex because you got mad at someone who refused to fuck you. And if he or she does fuck you, that's abuse. It turns out that normal people curb the visibility of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 08:35 PM
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Because normal people don't get visibly, openly, verbally, even physically angry when they are rejected. They acknowledge their feelings of rejection and simply move on. Get dates like normal people and get friends who have friends. Have those friends set you up. This is how most people start dating. Most people do not start dating because someone across the club looked attractive and the one who approached said something panty-moistingly clever. That's the hardest way TO attract. You're startin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:58 PM
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UGH UNCIVIL! MAWDS! /s There you go again. I live on the planet where I find it curious that, outside of the inconvenience of doing so, the taste of doing so, or the texture of doing so, eating one's own cum is seen as a taboo. Like as a man, I am socially not allowed to eat cum for pleasure. Mostly because porn shows us women eating cum and like everything about women, we men associate anything associated women being associated with us as an insult of the lowest order. That phenomenon is toxic …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:34 PM
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It's not just the manipulation, it's the screw that particular kind of manipulation tightens that's the real focus. It's the idea that anything feminine is the worst type of insult to anyone with a penis and the issue is that the list of what makes one feminine is large enough to allow that level of manipulation. The bigger issue, than that even, is that BEING feminine makes you inherently inferior at all in the first place when it IRL it doesn't affect anything. If something that is associated …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:11 PM
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When your buddies convince you to shove firecrackers down your pants or else you're a pussy. It's behavior that generally tapers off after a certain point but it lingers with certain people. Toxic masculinity is easily identifiable. It's that thing where guys won't eat their cum not necessarily because they prefer not to due to texture, taste, etc.; but because eating one's own cum literally makes one less of a man. That's toxic masculinity. Actual masculinity is, I don't know, if we want to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 06:14 PM
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Would say men are shit ONLY when it is intellectually convenient to say so. Like right now. RP has this unhealthy focus on how you literally can't trust women to DO anything, because they are not beings that DO to you guys. They are beings you have to do TO or FOR. Link where RP does the latter. Ciswhitemaelstrom made this: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85tl26wBy1r07139.jpg It got upvoted and gilded and supported by an EC. Quit dodging responsibility and then projecting that onto "feminists." …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 07:33 PM
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Quit pretending to be upset. You come from a forum that claps when someone says women are shit or mocks rape victims. It just looks disingenuous. But it's true. You guys don't LIKE independent women. You don't trust them to take care of themselves, yet refuse to look in the mirror. You pine for having control over most facets of a woman's life and refuse to delegate tasks and trust. Then, when you're burnt out and frustrated that your woman depends on you for every little thing, you wonder why w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 05:22 PM
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Whose expectations? If he works through a gym, the GYM certainly doesn't expect him to sleep around and if word got out (cuz wimminz are SO mouthy lelel), the gym wouldn't want HIS reputation conflated with ITS reputation, and he would be fired or whatever. Now and then, sure. But you could have the same worry about the accountant or the police officer or the doctor or the lawyer or the boss or the professor. And at that point, what services CAN you hire if you are at risk of transacting with at…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 09:33 PM
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So they're against their SO's taking charge of their own health in the ways they best see fit. Of course they are. They are forced to assume these TRPers know better. Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 08:26 PM
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That in and of itself is a leap. What if your bf fucks his hairdresser? Following this line of thought, this issue can LITERALLY pop up anywhere with anyone if you really think hiring a common, professional service says something bad about someone. If you REALLY think there is a serious risk associated with making a purchase. The tax accountant, the boss, the professor, anyone. Yet at a young age we are taught the personal/professional boundary and most people do not cross it and there are alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 08:15 PM
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Do professionals somehow forget their professional obligations and reputation to help some wife who doesn't intend to cheat--just purchasing a service--cheat on her husband? Does that really happen often? I can't imagine how desperate and awful the marriage would be for things to go that direction...and for the professional to be perfectly cool with it. Do you have friends who have often done this sort of thing? It's just such a paranoid thing to be worried about. It could happen going to grocer…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 07:56 PM
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A woman who's actually worthy of your trust wouldn't be setting up private appointments with a hot male trainer anyway. she doesn't want to appear improper to her man or to society OH MY GOD it's a common social situation. Why are you injecting insidiousness into a strictly professional relationship. Do you REALLY think the chances are all that high that a personal trainer is going to risk his professional reputation at his place of employment just to help a wife cheat on her husband...when she …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 07:47 PM
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Shut up with this smug bullshit. You don't get to say men created society when the women were put in charge of raising the next generation every time. And then you claim you're saying you're just average but then you pull this card out in the first place as some cheap jab at female inferiority because she "holds a very female point of view" that plenty of men, probably you included, hold. You don't care about society or else you wouldn't say exclusively men created it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:21 PM
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Do you know where the term "amazons" came from? Did you know a woman defended Santiago against a huge assault by the natives? A woman discovered Radium? A woman has amassed the largest fortune to date? Here's a fucking list: http://scottberkun.com/2013/top-women-innovators/ Also, have someone send me your obituary after you've died for the false-ass construct of "patriotism" when you really will have just died for corporate interest. But you won't. You're going to college to avoid just that and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:00 PM
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No they fucking didn't. They worked fucking together. I really don't get this point. How is that you can say that we can just remove half of society from the equation and assume that it would work EXACTLY as well, if not better? You are denying half of the population of their talents, skills, and ambitions because you don't fucking know any of them. See RPers? This is misogyny. Why can't you see this? Why can't you see this obvious shit? This is fucking stupid. There are women out there doing mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 04:49 PM
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...Have you not met people who have grown away from their parents' teachings over time? Yes, what you said is a factor but for the most part, people grow out of such behavior. People lose friends over shit lie this as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 04:20 PM
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This is the takeaway IMO. This behavior becomes much rarer in adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:30 PM
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Ok. Honest question. You talk to literally any married couple and you ask how they met, does the story at all resemble anything like redpillers' advice? People meet through other people. That's THE easiest way to go about it. Cold calling for your dick is absolutely the hardest. So here you have already socially awkward, generally low value men trying to falsibly jack up their "smv" by ignoring texts and shit and pretending that they are indisputably hot shit and are smug about the validity of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:28 PM
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It's not that it's special, it's that it does what it does and then RPers look around disingenuously as if it's not happening and ask, with a serious look on their faces, "That's happening?" Then we show them the evidence. "Nah." And I've literally had that said. I show the evidence and then "nah." JP was a great example of that because then after I proved to him that he was doing EXACTLY what he was doing he just coyly went, "well this a waste of my Saturday evening and you're just dumb." or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:02 PM
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Not really. There are the people who care and have a political stance they stroke with BP and then there are the people who just laugh at the stupid bullshit RPers post. Some PPers take part from time to time. That's why I called it a shitpost haven, because really it is. And that's fine. Nobody's trying to do anything. They're not changing anything, they're just...Saying what you're saying. And then laughing at it. RP actually has a hierarchy with enforced rules and goals, and if you say shit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:00 PM
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But he was Endorsed till the end and never corrected his behavior. RP works if you think all you need to do to improve yourself is to act like a lying asshole. Yet he thought he was all that high value awesomeness without taking the responsibility he wants rape victims to take and ADMIT FUCKING FAULT?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:44 PM
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Has your gf started watching negging and dread game porn? Do you honestly seriously think that makes you appear sexier?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:42 PM
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Which is why it's a cult. Anybody can hijack the ideology and inject a bunch of cultural norms into it that have absolutely nothing to do with sexual strategy. Also stretching sexual strategy to imply that sex is really is about power when it's just about enjoyment. That's what happened with redpillschool. Why do you think he's still flinging his boner over post-wall AWALT Wingnut who disagrees with his interpretation in the first place? It's this weird construction of dogmatic scripture that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:41 PM
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I see Catholics saying this all the time. "The priests raped people, that doesn't mean Catholicism is bad." No, it just means that if it's the case, then the men elected by God to share His word with the world were intentionally selected DESPITE their pedophilic tendencies. That just means God's cool with his own employees raping people. Which means it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:17 PM
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LOL you guys just so smugly think that the things you think are real. You guys thought JP and CWM were legit oneotheboys and oneoyous yet it turns out they aren't who they say they were and can't EVEN practice what they preach. It would be more akin to Newton being entirely unable to prove the theory (if that were the case in the first place) yet insistent that that's what's up. If you guys believed THEM, then what else do you believe that just totally isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:15 PM
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That's great, what about the 100,000 angry phasers who are looking for the most efficient way to "get sex?" I mean whenever things get down to it RP, the EC's, the smug-phasers, and other RP defenders (like the ones who "don't read redpill") are always asking "where will the low status men go for advice on sexual strategy?" and that's where I'm coming from here. If you've managed to be responsible about consent verbal or no, great. I'm just seeing way too much presumption about a group of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 08:36 PM
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Because TRP says to a bunch of men who can't take social cues "Infer consent when she says no." And then they're outraged and surprised when charges wind up being pressed and then call that misandry. Meanwhile I don't know any men facing time. You know why? Because they don't believe in shit like LMR. They don't worship Roosh. They think for themselves rather than letting Redpillschool's curia think for them then calling themselves high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 08:02 PM
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Yeah it is because, again, the poor people (this includes women) are forced into service if they want to avoid debilitating debt. And, again, I know people personally taking that route to ensure a future. There are enough poor people dependent on a college education that the draft is just a decoration at this point, like sodomy laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 06:29 PM
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It really is. We don't get our manpower from forced conscription. If you're poor and want to go to college, your only option is volunteer and utilize the GI bill. I've seen the story a lot and my best friend is in the army for this exact reason. It basically boils down to either paying for college with exorbitant amounts of money, or giving your life to military corporate interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 06:10 PM
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you are taking out value And nobody knows about it because it's nobody's business. Besides what happens if you leave it in the bank, it collects interest? Sex doesn't gain interest over time. The point isn't the value because everyone's bank account is different. The point is that you withdrawing your money like a human and you withdrawing money that isn't yours by force are separate things and that this analogy is way fucking better than... Sneaking into one's house to play video games wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 12:16 AM
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Sure money is finite, but that's not the point. You can withdraw as much as you have if you really want to. Who's going to care, the bank? The other patrons? They don't know how much money you have and the bank won't care. It's not the amount of money that's important here, it's the amount of people engaging in the EXACT SAME ACT DAILY that is important. It's only a problem when the guns come out and people want access to money that isn't theirs. Unless there is some unusual arrangement between …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:09 PM
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There's nothing wrong with investing your money in a bank, say putting it into an account. You can withdraw and deposit as many times as you wish as much money as you wish. It's a normal, legal, common thing that literally everybody does. So why is bank robbery a crime? See the problem isn't importance or openness in terms of "criminalizing sex" as you RPers sure love to imagine is happening with rape laws. The problem is that when you take something that isn't yours, even though the physical pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:09 PM
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See that's the irony of it all. RP is full of this "real men do X" with the "alpha" bullshit. You guys love submitting to strong Endorsed Contributors, but the minute you hear the exact same wording from someone who isn't, you guys lock up and get pissed off because THEN it's an insult. From an EC, it's just a "harsh truth."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:03 PM
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Everything that can piss one off as a man is rooted in some kind of female characterization. Anything that insinuates that a man is any more feminine or less masculine is taken as some sign of personal debilitization. By being characterized as more feminine, you are characterized as being less able and in this society if you aren't able then you may as well die. RPers want to be the exception to this rule as they want "sluts" to put in a Saturday every week and provide their bodies to "omegas" b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:17 PM
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You aren't fucking on the first date because we've socialized this idea that if you have sex on the first date, you're a whore. Which is an insult. Of course if you don't have sex on the first date, then you're still a whore because it is presumed that you would rather be fucking someone better. Then you gasp and wonder why women would conceal sensitive information from you even though you're going to use it with your buddies insensitively. There's a clear answer here: mental health and educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:35 PM
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Yeah nobody has ever fucking said "I'm usually a good girl" and me being 24, I don't have time for that juvenile bullshit anyways. Like once these kids grow up and start fucking other grownups, they're going to see a difference here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:39 PM
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I said they don't necessarily don't exist in relation to my OP. Edit: as in "I'm not necessarily saying leaders and followers don't exist."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:34 PM
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Not necessarily. There are plenty of unsuccessful leaders, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:53 PM
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I see successful men as men meeting whatever goals THEY have for THEMSELVES. Not goals that the Redpill Curia constructed because their toxic masculinity drives them to make men do stupid shit to prove that they're "real men." The reason our definitions are different is because BPers understand that "alpha" and "beta" aren't real concepts. They're RP social constructions based off stereotypes they've bought by the mass media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:59 PM
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Saying no should have sufficed that's the point you don't get. He deserves this rape accusation. How do I know this friend, after being desperate and literally animal enough to not take a simple no as an answer is also not animal enough to become violent over her trying to leave? Why, at the point of him refusing to receive clear sign and communication does he deserve to pretend he totally wouldn't have escalated the situation after her attempt to leave? Why DOESN'T he deserve these rape charges…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:59 PM
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Who cares? Most RPers are. Gay libelous himself is turned on by "easy sluts".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:40 PM
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She WAS accountable. She SAID no. How much of a scene does she have to create to channel the simple message of a rejection? He was the one who wasn't listening because your fake ass "LMR" bullshit that put him in this situation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:04 PM
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Oh fuck off she said no and he kept pushing. You don't keep pushing. If you don't get an immediate yes or equivalent enthusiasm, she doesn't want to have sex. This is why game is the shittiest thing. You guys literally cannot see past this guy's hard dick. She said no. He kept pushing. He raped her. That is what happened. It has nothing to do with HER accountability. She PLAYED her part. She SAID no. The fact that she caved in does not, cannot, and will not mean she actually wanted to have sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:17 PM
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Hahaha I fucking love this. Sorry, she wasn't too into it and your friend basically coerced her into agreeing. Your friend raped her. People are saying this behavior is needlessly risky and you need recognize that it is. Your libido is not that high. You do not, in the spirit of a heroin junkie, need to risk incarceration and possible physical harm by trying to convince people to give you something they don't want to give you. We, as men, are not that weak. Quit pretending to be that weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:56 PM
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Redpill clearly is against women. No matter what you do, it will be secondary. No matter your skillset, no matter your dedication, no matter your practice, your pleasantness, your perfection, your conviction, the worst man will always be better than the best woman in the eyes of this set of values and those who appreciate it. Things that are feminine are always thrown around as an insult, that makes your possession of femininity as a woman to be an insult to your own humanity, but you can't win.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:13 PM
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And that is an insecurity. You thinking "women don't know what's good for them" is an insecurity. The men sleeping around for no reason other than sexual validation? It's attention seeking behavior. But I don't fucking care. I do not fucking care because it does not fucking matter. If you care about your gf going out dancing. just dancing. Fucking dancing that's it. maybe getting drinks. If you care about that, if THAT is the hill you want to die on, then you HAVE to recognize that it is insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:43 AM
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LOL that's the thing she's not necessarily LOOKING to get validation. She's likely LOOKING to go dance. It's a club. There's loud music and a dance floor and booze. You dance there. YOU GUYS pick up women there. That's a you thing. And you're afraid of that. You're just unwilling to say that you hate men exactly like you. That said, it's not necessarily that being insecure is a bad thing either if you're aware of it. But being so inherently untrustworthy of your human being life partner going ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:48 PM
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Jesus Christ stop with this smug, presumptuous bullshit when you guys pretend to know what you don't know. Maybe it IS just YOUR college bar scene. Maybe "college" is the word we're looking for. I see plenty of RPers like Ciswhitemaelstrom (who's in college. And supposedly a virgin. And an endorsed contributor). going "yeah I don't care if she's dating someone lol" and all these attitudes that manifest themselves are just parts of either timely immaturity or insecurity. Monitoring and controllin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:08 PM
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See I get the theory, but it's this idea that you think you can simultaneously be an alpha while being afraid that your gf is going to cheat on your "high value" ass while innocuously going out to dance with friends that absolutely reeks of insecurity. It's like your gf refusing to let you go hunt because she's convinced you and your practiced buddies will kill each other lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:32 AM
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Lol restricting your gf from going dancing isn't a preference. That's just it. You don't get to dictate the hobbies or (what this is essentially all about) sexualities of others and then think yours are going to be respected after hearing these "opinions."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:21 AM
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Lol how don't you get that physically restricting your SO's movement because you're afraid that asshole men like you will hit on your gf is an abusive manifestation of your own self hate for your heroin-like sex addiction? Honestly, I see plenty of the same shit in your own subreddit. You are the very savages you hate, how are you so unaware? Some of you even admit it. I've seen it in this very subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 11:49 PM
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Not as important? Look, you're misunderstanding something here. What do you do with your free time? How does that differ from what your male peers do with THEIR free time? Whatever they do with their time, they are no less and no more of a man. They express their masculinity by doing what they enjoy and what makes them feel like them. They do what helps them fit in their own bodies. That's great. That's healthy. And gender roles are SUPPOSED to streamline that sort of thing for the sake of simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 09:43 PM
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And so you presume that's the objective universal truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:21 PM
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Moreso than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:21 PM
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Because the mass media is produced for the poor and undereducated. Have you SEEN the 60s Batman? http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/tvbanners/184053/p184053_b_v8_ad.jpg The hypermasculinity is a new thing (it comes and goes) that we've been sold into liking. It's not any more or less natural. It's a phase. If you saw that Batman at a party, took a picture, and uploaded it to RP, it would be gilded with 200 comments saying "lol beta."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:19 PM
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There are how many billions more men and women out there than the ones "you know?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:06 PM
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The thing is, THAT'S what you presume is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:46 PM
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So you agree we need to quit putting unnecessary importance on gender roles with pointless suffering as an unnatural consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:24 PM
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Of course you are. Too bad there aren't any mass shootings performed by women or you'd have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:14 PM
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So can I presume that you're a sports-loving rapist who eats nothing but meat and watches nothing but Michael Bay movies? Because that above comment is basically at that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:02 PM
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Don't be disingenuous about this. Violence can be violence completely separated from gender, but once gender roles are involved, it becomes a toxic (gender) violence issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:01 PM
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In its uniquely violent qualities, yes. Toxic femininity exists also in a similar vein to toxic masculinity. Where toxic masculinity takes the concept of masculinity and ties your identity so deeply with the idea of being as "manly" as possible to a fault, so does toxic feminity. For example, the tendency to put oneself in danger by agreeing to terms one might not necessarily want, but due to social conditioning (same case with toxic masculinity), one might acquiesce simply to make the other per…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:41 PM
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Presumption presumption "race realism" (racism) presumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:56 PM
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If toxic masculinity is disobeying your own needs because you want to look cool for your stupid buddies, then we would have died of hypothermia because we would have chosen NOT to build that fire to keep us alive because TOXIC masculinity is about denying your own faults and weaknesses until they bite you in the ass. Stop presuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:55 PM
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Why? What is the point of your being here? Why go out of your way to defend people who mock rape victims and legalize marital rape? What do you get out of this? What was this interaction even about? Don't shoot the messenger? You did that thing I KNEW you guys would do, denied it like I KNEW you would, then tried to act all chill and cool with some amused mastery bullshit. I've seen this VERY behavior multiple times as an attempt to shed responsibility for the glorification of straight up rape b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:49 PM
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This is fucking bullshit. These are actual observations. I get nothing out of lying to you about your own ideology, who chooses to represent it, and how they represent it. As I said, there is no debate here, this shit happened in this very thread when (as I mentioned in the paragraph above) someone tried to deny the removal of humanity from all women while insisting that wasn't what they were doing and then threw whataboutism with feminism at me. It happened in this thread RIGHT when I explained…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:51 PM
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It has EVERYTHING to do with obesity. Stigmatizingsomething drives people toward that thing. Food industries are just whaling different types of whales. Just like how sexual insecurity drives young men to sexual strategy conferences. There's money to be made in fear when your population is severely undereducated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:35 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about. This attitude stems from the top. I will not debate something I factually know to be true. Something I have been the very subjec of by your cult leaders. These. Are. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:06 PM
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healthcare expenses ...you live in a democratic republic, what do you want? Our leaders pay for shit none of us want but this is the hill you want to die on? You're paying for the pleasure of your own information being used against you by your own government and you want to talk about paying people who don't deserve it? There's no debate here. These people are people and no matter what our leaders will take our money to alleviate our insecurities and then invest in the creation of new ones. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:04 PM
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Lol but you have to interact with them. What is the point of making them feel shitty about their choices while I can't make you feel shitty about your choice to dehumanize them when we both agree what the response should be? Why go the extra mile of being an asshole about it when they probably don't presume a damn thing about you? We all make mistakes. Intentionally choosing the less healthy option isn't killing anybody but them. They know it everybody tells them that. You're just wasting time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 08:23 PM
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It DOES take an inordinate amount of time in a world where we already have none. The working poor population, upon whom obesity falls the hardest, are uneducated because we would rather invest in oil crusades in the East than an informed population. They are overworked because they don't get work benefits and wages are absolute shit. So they spend more time at work and whatever little time they have at home they HAVE to spend taking care of whatever weird home issues there are. Not to mention, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 08:01 PM
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Yes they are. The nutritional facts (in the US) are labeled per serving size. If there's more than one serving size, then companies go out of their way to create more work for the consumer to stay informed on what they eat. If you look at exactly how MUCH we eat even if it's just a little, meal planning is 2 and a half chores on its own and takes up way more time than needs to be taken. That's misinformation and misleading. Edit: Ultimately, treating obesity as a condition of subhumanity rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 07:34 PM
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What if they're fat because the labels are misleading and we for the longest time had a food pyramid that encouraged, what was it? 6-11 servings of BREAD per day? I remember seeing the food pyramid even in private school health classes. There's probably a fat person out there contributing more to society in a day than you will ever in a lifetime. But why should I presume, I don't know you. What if you're fat and because you don't exercise and eat too much? What am I supposed to say then? Nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 07:10 PM
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LOL what do you expect? When you guys presume about the entire entity of the blue pill subreddit (and everyone else for that matter), calling us all--what now? "Fat, feminist lesbians?" Then there's the part where NONE of you take responsibility for what that means. That means you think A) fat people are objectively inferior B) Women are are objectively inferior (misogyny, but woops I can't say that because that will hurt your feelings because that sounds...presumptuous hmmm?) C) Lesbians are ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:00 PM
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It's not about treating me with respect, it's about treating me with enough respect to not presume shit they don't know about me, like you're doing here, then reacting with vitriol when I (or BP in general) presume. You guys don't get to be so fucking smug and just...shitty people and then think that at the end of the day you're good, high value people. That's what I'm talking about. This shit with whoreington proves my point. Redpillschool himself gave him his vanguard status right? The fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 04:08 PM
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What HE believes is rape? Tough. Rape is sex without consent. He thinks consent is constant if you're married and it's not.beyond that it's unenforceable. You're wrong. Admit it. We're not going to discuss what's rape is when we knew what it meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 02:11 AM
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The OP says one consents by marrying. That means that "no" is off the table. That means they support rape. End the fuck of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:37 AM
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But that's how theredpill should be treated in the first place. at the end of most arguments it always boils down to "it shouldn't be taken literally" in a subreddit where it's basically gospel. So someone here is doing something wrong with the whole ideology (spoiler: mods, ECs, Vangaurds). The fact is that those who actually abide by its root principles are in the minority; they're the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:46 PM
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AND IT'S STILL ALL PRESUMPTION. What you have to say may be true, but until the RPers can prove themselves responsible enough to be an asshole and accept the consequences of doing things like forcing an abortion out of someone or mocking rape victims, they'll never even approach the venue of "high value" or "alpha" because every single RPer DOESN'T, in fact take responsibility for the tone and anti-intellectual problem that is absolutely rampant in RP. You know I'm not making this up, you know I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 05:25 PM
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That's just it. You guys get to AWALT out of every situation, suggest marital rape but I can't suggest that we just arrest and kill all men and find away to synthesize sperm in order to destroy human aggression completely? Obviously that's a stupid idea, but my point stands. All of you get to presume, and I know I presumed here. I know what I did. I'm not trying to circumvent that. But I also need you--NEED YOU to see that my OP takes the form of every RP premise--presumption. You obviously see …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:38 PM
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Exactly what I'm saying. It's that smug, presumptuous tone that you guys carry into every fucking thread. If I'm wrong, fine. But own up to your own fucking presumptions before you even begin to think about the presumptions of others. Is what I said a presumption? Sure. But if I were red, and I'd made a post specifically about that, I'd be swimming in upvotes. There'd be contention, sure, but the fact that I can get RPers to defend rape and mocking rape victims tells me all I need to know about …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:07 PM
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It's funny to me. All of you reds and purples get to presume the shit out of everything, I mean you have no proof. You guys just say shit--anything you want--and it's upvoted. Even if it's completely contradictory to RP tenets. As soon as something is intellectually inconvenient, you can just change the rules of redpill at will. And I've seen it done. I'm sure there are plenty of real purples out there, but there aren't nearly enough speaking up about the mocking of rape victims, the shaming of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 03:52 PM
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I mean fair enough everybody is unique in their personal views, but I encounter that attitude more often than not. It's those who "don't read" TRP or "don't believe it." It's those who separate themselves from the "women want to be raped by high value men" yet parrot or defend every RP notion there is short of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:01 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2hptog/marital_rape/ Every RP comment in there is literally advocating for violence solely because they literally can't keep their libidos in check long enough to figure out why that might...you know...be wrong. Edit: Sigh...more https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2pttgh/would_any_of_you_actually_want_to_go_back_to_the/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 11:30 PM
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That whole thing where EC's and mods want to legalize marital rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 11:19 PM
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Anything insinuating that women are literally coddled through life therefore granting men the right to legalize violence in order to satisfy carnal needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:47 PM
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But are rational "Women want to be raped by high value men." -Redpillschool. Mod. /r/TheRedPill Edit: Just to expand, I really love how it's either just "therationalpill or everyone else" in this dichotomy. Like, no, there's a big chunk of you that thinks that the solution to your "libido" (brought on by intense oversexualization and objectification in the media--bible included) is to legalize violence in order to satisfy a sub-primary need. That's not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 09:38 PM
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I'm sort of torn on this one. It's definitely true that once one color knows what the other color is, all civil discussion is off the table simply because one is a member of the other color. In my experience, it's funny just how much nuance RPers get to have but then they get to presume about everything in every BPer's (and woman, atlasbshruggin notwithstanding) life. I'm certainly influenced in how I interact with people with regards to whether they're red or blue, but the sort of language used…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 08:01 PM
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not a good bet for a monogomous relationship. That's just it, though, right? Before partner count is even an issue, you're going to be bringing up exactly what kind of relationship you want to have. OK, so let's say you're on board with a monogomous relationship. Great. I noticed you said "person" and not "woman" so that tells me you're being way more reasonable than the RP EC's and mods (that speaks to a separate issue about the manosphere's credibility but that's off-topic). So let's say she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 11:47 PM
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But the difference PSYCHOlogically is ruination? Surely you get that THAT'S equally bullshit, right? For the same reasons vaginas don't loosen as they have more sex, penises aren't shaved away. Mentally, it's similar. It's a difference in priorities, not neccessarily mental health. Literally all redpillers should understand this understanding the fact that the only reason they're all circlejerking ABOUT the physiological and psychological differences between the perfecttes and infidelias is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 11:07 PM
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It's a pretty simple way of outlining how absurd it is to take everyday interactions and to tie them to some insidious motivation. How are you a LAWYER and unable to understand that? Surely you've worked with LITERAL nonsense at some point? Really, your example of a "compliance test" is literally nothing more than ensuring an efficient transition from the house to the car because that person cares A) about getting wherever they're going to on time and B) about making sure his family has met all …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:42 PM
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No. There's literally no separate effect on the "tightness" of a vagina between having sex one time with multiple men and having sex multiple times with one man. It's all dicks in the same vagina. There's no difference biologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:29 PM
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That's my point. Atlas_B_Shruggin is a mid 40s RPW mod and she's saying that if she needed somewhere to put her purse that wasn't the floor because she herself needed to carry or fiddle with something, asking her husband to hold that purse would be "shit testing" him. And how many RPers automatically spout the same thing? It's an issue with the "one truest truth of dating" being open to interpretation by a stupid, anti-iintellectual, or straight up unqualified "endorsed" collective and having th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:26 PM
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Lol what you described is so different from the common "hold my purse" request it's sad. Jesus. If they can find a way to relate sex to murder, I guess they can find a way to relate a required non-emergency grocery run in the middle of the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:28 PM
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compliance test You mean getting everybody to get their things together within a reasonable time frame? Fucking lol. "compliance test."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:17 PM
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3 words to describe this comment: Factually incorrect. Disingenuous. Presumptuous. Can you guys just...not do that? You're just proving to us you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:23 PM
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You nailed it. When you take the time to learn how to have sex with an individual, you become a better performer in the eyes of that individual. it goes both ways, of course. You then go and fuck somebody else and suddenly you're back to your general rules of stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:26 AM
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Finally. How does it take this many months for someone who reads RP to actually come to me with actual information and not, like, presumption about my sexuality and how somehow I'm worse off for it? Thank you. Fucking thank you for actually bringing information that affects the argument being made. Is there a source for that? I do remember RPS being involved in some early form RP sub or another. Hence his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:45 PM
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Fuck the only reason it seems you're here is to pander to the paranoia of these RPers. You know how easily they believe speculation such as this. That IS what it is. Then you go and say some other shit I've heard RPers say. Then do EXACTLY what discuss in my other comment and DISSOCIATE YOURSELF WITH A PROBLEM PEOPLE LIKE YOU CREATED. You didn't even respond to the overall criticism. You just tried to deflect my point and keep the spotlight pointed at feminists while still speculating on things …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 08:22 PM
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ITT: Speculation speculation speculation. Speculation. Speculation Speculation? Speculation! Spec-ec-ec-ec-ec-ec. Ulation. Speculation? Speculation. Come on. Because they are your people. And you did it to them. So you better go tell those guys who will never rape anybody stuck in classes that teach how not to rape how you guys fucked up and discounted everything about rape and take responsibility for the monsters YOU created. When people on your side (that is to say, Redpillschool who CREATED y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:26 PM
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Being a slut and deceiving the person you want to spend the rest of your life with is (for me) by far more disgusting than only being a slut. But you understand why it happens in the first place, right? It's not that suddenly sexual past goes from being super duper secret to not meaning shit, it's because of the tendency for men like you guys to handle what is to me completely innocuous yet sensitive information fairly insensitively. Once it is displayed that sensitive information will NOT be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:00 AM
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How do you know? How do you know it's the dread gaming and negging that's working and not absolutely anything else at all? You don't. You have no fucking idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 07:37 AM
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Are you kidding? What's harmful about it? I don't know, what's harmful about marginalzing ANY group? Any malevolent action taken against that group is justified. It's scary how much you're willfully ignoring this blatanlty obvious trope. Look at the way RPers DISCUSS women. THAT is supposed to get you laid? The hatred is seething and obvious. You're opting to be oblivious because you can't handle the truth that Ciswhitemaelstrom, EC of TRP, cheerfully said he'd eat women if he couldn't fuck them…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:19 PM
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Try to argue with her in good faith Seriously? You must be new here. If you've read her comments then you know that she tends to do anything but argue in good faith, if at all. She brings up one teeny tiny point in a giant paragraph and sticks to that point like glue, completely disregarding the overall message. THEN when you reply she'll say some serious 14 years old edgelord bullshit like "nah" "make me" "homo" etc. This isn't new. I'm not the only one bothered by this. Most BPers who have int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:12 PM
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Literally everything So where are your five peer-reviewed relevant academic articles that prove any of this? Because when I read a bunch of RPers mocking rape victims or calling single mothers fucking SCUM, doing things that get ladies excited and enjoying our company because we want to be with them. Starts to sound like the parroted PR bullshit I'm used to hearing to RPers who can't possibly see how harmful their ideologies are. You don't enjoy the company of ladies. You enjoy their company whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:57 AM
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Then gr8 b8, m8, amused mastery ftw! Of course you don't see them as harmful. Of course you see absolutely nothing fucking wrong with single moms being referred to as scum. Or with rape victims being mocked. Who would care about THAT? Reasonable people? PSSHHHHH. Look, I have PERSONALLY been the subject of one of YOUR EC's misogyny and if the mods hadn't deleted it, you'd be reading it right now. I'm not even a woman. That's just one more reason. TRP is just so fucking presumptuous about everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:43 AM
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You're going to tell me you're not arrogant from your toes to the top of your hair and lift everyday because that's the one exercise that exists to you and you don't go subjugate settlements of people and pretend you're the greatest thing that ever lived because you're young and you have a penis and it gets hard when boobies touch it? Because that would tell me that you would have some semblance of self-awareness. And THAT would tell me that you would notice the harmful or inconsistent trends I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:29 AM
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What about flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:23 AM
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They are. Let me tell you why we use them from my perspective. When we see absolutely insensitive bullshit flying around YOUR fucking sub and NONE of you seem to understand why it might be harmful let alone EXISTS. At all. I figure that the best way to get you to understand what you're doing is to experience the feeling for yourselves. So now you either have to measure up to the super alphas you ALL fucking claim to be or to back down with your absolute arrogance in your belief that you understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:06 AM
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Maybe you could argue using it does Nice backpedaling and point circumventing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 05:11 AM
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So you, being childless, have no value? That's what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 04:56 AM
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misunderstanding Because RP is all about making men appear more attractive... Because women totally masturbate to pictures of absurdly high bank statements, dread gaming, and negging? THAT'S what women are supposed to find attractive? I haven't even opened up the bottle of latent misogyny that sits right on that point's desk. I could even pour into the glass of hypocrisy and splintered RP theory. Then drink it down with the idea that RP is touted as the one true method of seduction and intersex …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 04:40 AM
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Of course it's not. It's amused mastery bullshit and latent misogyny at work. But look at me I'm shutting down the discussion by using the relevant terminology in order to point out an issue with the mindset TRP creates! Tone policing! Can't touch THIS male safe space that's all about communicating via insults and forgetting forms of exercise apart from lifting exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 02:18 AM
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Sexual strategy right here, folks. Self-improvement at its absolute finest. "Stop doing the things RPers do way too much of but I'm not commenting on!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 01:43 AM
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Seriously. What is it they do when they go in for a job interview and suddenly all that jingoistic misogyny stops? What is it they call that? Speech watching? Word patrolling? Manner maintenence? Something similar... Oh hey! Tone policing! I love how RPers sensationally play up the dangers behind having fucking manners and displaying basic respect to your fellow human. But it's not "their job". It's not "their problem." They "don't care." Empathy is a "pain in the ass." But they care enough to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 01:42 AM
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Whinier than what? In what context is rape reasonable? The law asks the same question and answers itself in the way the only way you say "rape" is "rape" and not "category 1 rape" or "red rape" or "bad rape." It's all just "rape." There aren't degrees like manslaughter or muder. It's all rape. That's where the debate starts and ends. There's nothing more to say. You can call US whiney, but recognize that all WE do is point out shit that YOU do. That's it. We're not making this shit up. Whereas y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 03:20 AM
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Or whiny like legal code? Wherein "chill rape" and rape, which are the same thing, are equivalent? You don't see the issues you're creating by mentioning that there are categories of rape out there that are perfectly OK and reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:17 AM
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Don't consent Doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:09 AM
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Then there's the RP robot response: Point challenged---->amused mastery. Take responsibility for the flaws of your movement for once. I see responses exactly like yours all too often and it's LESS conducive than my own because at the end of the day, my posts have points. Like what the fuck was that? What the fuck does "chill rape" have to do with anything. You're just throwing another non-RP, but RP sounding, term in order deflect the point I'm making. Which is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 11:16 PM
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often hysterically emotional Funny coming from the group that needs sex so much, they need marital rape just so they don't have to "work" to get it. And then mocks rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:29 PM
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Not that they're not the SAME WHERE DID I SAY THAT?! WHERE DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING BEING THE SAME? I said they don't have common characteristics. Do you understand that difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:07 AM
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You read her replies, right? Seen the way she's treated everyone here? Seen how she literally lied about her knowledge of analogies and started this passive aggressive shitshow thread? You better ban us both because these statements need to be seen. Especially since she won't edit hers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:32 PM
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Oh quit. Did you read the other definitions? No shit the objects of comparison are going to have different qualities. That's the point. I didn't say it was the same fucking thing. Sex and murder don't have any characteristics in common. Name 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:17 PM
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Who said "same"? Where in the fuck have I ever said that two objects have to be the same in order to be considered a fucking analogy? Where did I fucking say that? What possible characteristics do murder and sex share? Because as far as I'm concerned, that's one important requirement in an analogy. Ffs read the fucking links to the definition I have provided above. Do yourself a goddamn service and educate yourself. Quit trying to make me out like I don't goddamn know what I'm talking about beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:44 PM
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Well you delivered. Kinda. There's a reason I asked for 5 articles though. I couldn't even access the article and I'm not paying $40 to do so. This article was also written in 1995. 20 years ago. It's possible these findings are completely outdated. Not to mention without seeing another few peer reviewed articles, there's no way to know whether there are key factors Teachman left out. Which is more than likely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:37 PM
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Then what characteristics do bowling history and federal income history have in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:10 PM
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You're right, of course. I brought the proof and if she can't understand that she lost, then...well that's just the issue with ppd isn't it? How much shit have I disproved just by restating what was said? How many times do I need to make the same arguments over and over--that are accepted as valid in the actual real goddamn world--but then literally don't exist in the mind of RPers? Who IRL thinks of hypergamy (which doesn't even fucking register in autocorrect)? Who IRL thinks of cuckoldry (apa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:23 AM
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No, you don't think so? The whole point of analogies isn't to underscore a similarity or common characteristic between objects in a manner similar to comparisons, similes, or metaphors? Really? Because that's too bad. You're wrong. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy noun, plural analogies. 1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump. http://www.analogyexamples.com/ An analogy is is a likeness or a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:06 AM
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TL;DR Bank robberies, like rape, involve the same "technical verb" of withdraw/have sex respectively. But sex, like withdrawals, involve consent and taking what is allowed access to you rather than taking what is NOT ALLOWED ACCESS TO YOU a la rape/bank robbery. Still a better fucking analogy than sex and murder. Which have no common characteristics, which is exactly what a fucking analogy is supposed to fucking underscore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:41 AM
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I am not reading a fucking 5 year-old blog and taking that as a source. Do you have 5 peer reviewed? No, you don't. Because what you believe isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:17 AM
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Without bring moral judgement into it at all. The statistics bear this out. Do they? Because you all seem to fucking ignore the fact that women can and do slut it up in college--I'm in fact going to just go ahead and make this gender neutral so back to the beginning--Because you all seem to fucking ignore the fact that people can and do act promiscuously in college and then later down the line marry someone who wasn't in the list of people he or she had fucked. And then ASSUME that from that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:09 AM
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It has been but RPers already believe that you need to meet a minimum n count quota to get into heaven and that women have a maximum partner limit before they are restricted from heaven. Of course nobody knows these exact numbers but then it doesn't matter because, and I quote, "you wouldn't play on train tracks just because you don't see a train."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:51 AM
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Did you not read the word "potential?" Well it's because rape isn't sex. It's rape. You'd get a different reaction slapping a girl in a consensual bdsm scene than you would slapping her randomly out of nowhere IRL. But that's just "hamstering" to all of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:31 AM
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Self-improvement is just one component To fit the theme of analogies today, like how an axle is just one component of a car: but it's not like it works without it. If you don't have the science and the actual willingness to improve something through that proof, then you're kidding yourself. And RPers would rather communicate via insults than to have to develop a filter because that's too feminine. Fix your fucking subreddit. If I actually have to DIG to find something that's not badly-analyzed e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:27 AM
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And now they have the opposite issue: "The advice came from a woman: I need to get home and check my sperm wallet to see if she jacked any. Also, her vagina makes her advice bad."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 12:51 AM
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You're supposedly a self improvement sub! Of course I'm taking the numbers literally! Because when you go into an ACTUAL self improvement sub, you are given theory AND numbers. What RP does is fudge both and then say it's natural law. Meanwhile mocking rape victims but you guys don't want to talk about that! Somewhere between 10 and 20 million men in the US are fucking somewhere around 150 million women. How does that SOUND possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:45 PM
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Is it? Because last I checked unless you were seriously religious and intend on marrying young I.e within the first couple years of college (lol which is hilariously what RPers think will be their savior from divorce apart from not marrying at all), both men and women ALWAYS work and are SINGLE bstore they meet each other. So where the fuck does the income come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:19 PM
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So I can compare bowling history with federal income history and still have a valid point at the end of the day? Lolololololololno We're comparing history? What history? Science history and anthropoly history? Cooking history and carpentry history? The kind of history we're talking about is kind of important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:10 PM
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I also hear women are all cunning, scheming, emotional, amoral-thinking, thoughtless whores. I hear many things on RP but I found one of the few that really make me laugh. I mean how fuckig disingenuous can you guys get? Really? He probably spends 10 min out of his whole day of shit posting to help. Meanwhile there are people out there ACTUALLY invested in making the world a better place andguys like him wrote them off as beta cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:16 PM
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There IS no relationship between sex and murder. That's my point. They are judged objectively on entirely different levels. They are completely different categories of actions. It's not a far cry away for an RPer to blow what sex means beyond what it actually means in an effort to make a woman's sex life seem scarier than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:10 PM
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And the premise combined with tone and RP terms reinforces that this comes exclusively from a place of personal insecurity and paranoia rather than matter fact. I know this because I'm getting you to defend statistical population impossibility that is embedded into your mind as a form of reality. I'm using matter of fact not to debate you, but to show you that in every sense of objectivity, you are simply wrong. I can't possibly spell out these facts any more clearly. So when these would be husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:53 PM
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But MANY do. And IF they do, gambling addiction DOES harm them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:10 PM
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You're just digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. It's STILL statistically impossible. So what about the men all these women married? Contrary to belief they do or at least did have sex at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:09 PM
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Well actually it harms their families if they have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:50 PM
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Which begs the question as to where the fuck all these kids came from. It's not like humans are AMAZING at contraception. In fact I'm pretty sure that's a huge RP paranoia talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:49 PM
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Why do you insist on playing your walking stereotype RPW post wall AWALT bullshit? I mean does that even QUALIFY as an analogy? It's a hyperbolic hypothetical meant to dishevel one teeny tiny point of a larger argument. Which is basically what constitutes any PPD post. I mean what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:47 PM
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Same issue. 10% of men who exclusively get sex spread out all over the US and Europe are not producing the amount of children to get to where our populations are at today. I mean is that number static? Does it fluctuate with the times? If so do you have sources for that? Of course not because it's bullshit if you actually look critically at that information against actual population trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:35 PM
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Because it misses the point. Everyone judges murder because it's wrong. This is completely universal. No shit you're going to judge someone for being a murderer. Having sex is something most people do and is by some form or another a societally sponsored act. Tattoos are a personal aesthetic modification that harms nobody. Completely unlike murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:29 PM
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And that study showed you that literally 3,75 billion women are having sex with 10% that number worldwide? No. That's literally not the case. What you posit is simply a statistical impossibility. Do you have 10 more studies conducted throughout history that provides the same trend? No. Because humanity would look starkly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:22 PM
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Having sex and killing people: comparable acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:09 PM
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And you see nothing wrong with that concept? At all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:04 PM
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Lol spoiler: there are none. That statistic disproves itself. The population disparity would be absolutely enormous depending on where this 10% resides. How are all these women even finding these statistically uncommon if not rare men? The whole argument, like the rest of RP is sensational and completely unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:01 PM
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Including yourself? Why should anyone listen to anything YOU say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:58 PM
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Then why is he a respected EC in a sub that's SUPPOSED to be about self-improvement? If you have an ENDORSED CONTRIBUTOR who's basically trolling the readerbase who supposedly has SOME interest in make themselves into better people, that might be just one of many signs that something is wrong with your thought processes and analyses of people and situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 09:53 PM
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Lol source? Fucking misoginist. Read your comment. This is exactly what I'm talking about. YOU'RE a self-improved alpha? THIS is the desirable end result of RP? Look at this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:22 PM
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Or you could just...stop making gigantic logical jumps about human nature and assume every single fucking FR is true meanwhile denying the presence of any rape in today's society and. Or you could just...stop blaming everything bad about humanity on a whole single gender. Or you could just...stop worshiping idiots like Roosh and buying into his bullshit, then call him a beta when you realize how stupid he is, then go back to defending him when he is the victim of having water dumped on him becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:16 PM
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In that thread in particular >>let's MOCK her for that? I'd have no problem mocking actual rape/murder victims most of the time. I have a twisted sense of humour and a lack of empathy. In the RP thread: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85tl26wBy1r07139.jpg That is the image RP endorsed contributor and at this point straight-up troll doctored up. And what in the unholy fuck are you talking about TB being pedohile enablers? I love how you guys claim something with no sources to back it up. Roosh sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:07 PM
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This isn't about fucking benefits or your well-concealed bitterness regarding the fact that you aren't allowed to fuck everything that moves without its permission. I'm a guy by the way, but I love how when I show you guys the truth behind the insinuations of your actions, I'm "talking like a woman." The misogyny is so fucking thick. I mean the innocent individual? Who? Oh yeah, that girl didn't have a sign with the rapist's name or description so we don't know who did it. We don't know she ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:30 PM
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And this is what I'm talking about. When a guy gets rape, is it because he was acting like a whore? Because he was dressed like a whore? And when he doesn't report that rape? Is it because he doesn't want to be seen as a whore? You think she decided to go through all the fucking trouble of telling her story because she DIDN'T want to be seen like a whore when it seems like any time someone reports rape, comments like YOURS are what she receives? All that has to happen is to be raped by someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:58 PM
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Here's a thread to that link, which also funnily enough includes someone else defending that case. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3bkv5k/red_pillers_why_is_my_understanding_of_trp_wrong/csnoqes It's beautiful when you guys try to make ME out as the troll. All you have to do is actually SEE this shit. It's not fucking invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:53 PM
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RPers make fun of rape victims. That really should be the end of the story. I'm sick of having these false-ass "well you're worse" arguemtns with RPers. You guys actually hate shit. We're just sick of your bullshit. Personally, I DO agree that most RPers are indeed guys who just don't GET how to society and so run to the arms of the most convenient explanation. Which happens to be what? ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT? If you're naive enough to belive that, how do you think the world is going to categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:55 AM
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lol that's the thing. That's what you guys believe. And what your readers believe with nothing to back that statement up. A girl tells her story of being raped and you guys mock her and then you turn around and proclaim yourselves men above other men, Yeah, it's quite debatable, from where I stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:41 AM
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We know. That's why you're RP. And why you're self-proclaimed "alpha."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:56 PM
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Pretty much. To RPers, the common beauty standard is the EXCLUSIVE beauty standard. In terms of women it means you're thin, have long hair, act and dress extremely femininely, and partake in exclusively feminine activities (which RPers than mock because I guess that's a step with self-improvement, right?). In terms of men it means you're violent, muscular, narcissistically arrogant, literally carnivorous, allergic to the colors pink and purple, afraid of black men, have no hobbies apart from lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:49 AM
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Well how did he find favor in the first place? RPers masturbated their feels without looking critically at what exactly he's saying. He's reactionary and the majority of RPers are reactionaries. The whole movement is an emotional reaction. Guys like you should actively be telling readers to avoid people like Roosh if you SERIOUSLY see RP as a self improvement movement. But it seems mods and EC's only care about nurturing that misogynstic jingoism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:18 PM
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So you haven't been paying to TRP since its inception, have you? The entire thing is an emotional reaction that leads to people mocking rape victims and taking advice from...Roosh? You CAN'T consider that guy on top his game, really, can you? Giving advice like "Don't wipe your ass?" "The only exercise a woman needs to stay in shape with is sex?" I mean the fact that RPers take advice from THIS GUY is proof that most of you don't have your feels in check. The only reason he's popular is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 01:38 PM
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That's not quite the point. What I'm suggesting is something that has been said by RPers, even here, a million times over: Reals over feels. I mean come on, you've seen it before. I know you've seen it before, you regularly read and post on TRP and here. Yet this one time, this one fucking time, this guy goes "MUH FEELS!" and nobody calls him out for it. Yet any time a woman feels anything, she's put to the fucking stake for it. So reality check, guys: Feels ARE real. So are we willing to all fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:48 PM
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but this is how they feel. Reals over feels? Only for redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:29 PM
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And I make fun of the man afraid enough to NOT let someone else fuck his SO to see if he's really worth his weight. Actually I don't but let me tell you how this works: she goes out and fucks who she wants BUT runs it by me first to see if who she wants to fuck is ok. That's very important because I'm involved here. I can stop the whole thing. Even after all is said and done, do you know who she fucks most? Me. Really there's nothing more alpha than literally actively outperforming your "competi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:57 PM
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Because this is 100% opinion and 0% fact. You're pandering to RP paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:43 PM
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All you have to do is look at the trends: In such a case, guy asks girl. Girl declines. Guy becomes EXTREMELY, IRRATIONALLY ANGRY. It goes straight from "omg ur bootyful" to "UGH YOUR SUCH A BICH I HATE YOU N-E-WAY" For whatever reason, it's common enough to notice. Just go to creepypms and see for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 12:51 PM
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Because actual evidence has ever done a damn thing around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:38 AM
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As opposed to the quality self-improvement posts. Which are totally there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:48 PM
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With a polite and very self-improved "get out, whore!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:44 PM
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Any time a woman on RP reveals herself as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:43 PM
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What you're missing here is that every time a woman says anything--even if it's positive- RP responds literally with "get out, whore"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:41 PM
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There's a whole thread on TRP mocking an alleged rape victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:37 PM
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What as CEO? Well yeah. I mean anybody running a company whereby they exploit children in 3rd world countries with shitty labor laws is a sociopath. That's just who these people are regardless of gender. Of course you choose to make the "but CEO's are sociopaths" argument conveniently after someone mentions a desire to see more women in power and never made it in the context of the patriarchic superstructure from which all current masculinity issues arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 01:16 PM
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I'll agree with this. As usual, the question is just framed around RP oversimplification of complex phenomena and situations. Indeed, very rarely you'll come right out of the gate knowing everything that gets your partner off. RP just saying "dominate, dominate, dominate" completely ignores the greater nuances of communicating just to realize that you can safely get to that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:42 PM
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Yeah, we share a lot of conservative values with a lot of other religions, but it's not like we developed our social standards through fucking Jain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:19 PM
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I say Judeo-Christian because that's primarily the religious values the West takes after. And for a long time, religion was THE most important thing. So, yeah, it's going to be a major part of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:07 AM
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...Well it didn't suddenly spring up out of the Industrial Revolution or the Civil War. Which religious institution/s populated Early America? Christian Protestants--offshoots of the Catholic Church--which uses a rewritten book similar to that of the Jewish Bible--obviously used by Jews. Meaning that Western religion and religious social policy followed Judeo-Christian lines of thinking. We're no longer creating huge extended linked families anymore and the family structure has become more nucle…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:49 PM
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Indeed, of course it's also a social requirement left over from our Judeo-Christian roots. The same ones RP thinks will grant us sexual salvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:39 PM
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In fact, they'd just spread their holes because it's Brad Pitt and with enough looks and status, you can literally say anything the whores will put out! RITE? RITE?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:48 PM
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Not to mention, there's the party who thinks you literally cannot be a man without TRP and the party that thinks that RP is literally the objective truth in dating despite there being no science to back it up. They then resort to their little pill autism in all social situations and credit any success with women exclusively to that and not, well, ANYTHING ELSE that could contribute to successful cross-gender communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:06 PM
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as if women are indifferent towards looks, style, status, confidence. And a lot of that is STILL dependent on the individual. I have one big issue with status, though. A woman isn't going to recognize that you're the prime minister of Tajikistan just by seeing you in an Albertson's, and even THAT doesn't completely sell you...on top of that we're still dealing with the issue that she may be carrying four bags of groceries and just wanting to unload them. It's this pill autism that you guys adver…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:35 PM
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I'm bisexual, so when everyone is a potential sexual partner, nobody is. Having said that, I suppose it depends on the subject and whether I have a large string of errands that need to be completed before the day is culminated in work or something. Now that I think about it, there are times when I may run into a friend or neighbor and may have a very quick convo, but I have told them I need to run. Thinking about it, yeah, I would probably say the same thing would happen if some random attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:27 PM
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Yet attractiveness wasn't even a word she used. Here's a correction to that oversimplified burning bag of shit: Be attractive TO THE INDIVIDUAL Don't be unattractive TO THE INDIVIDUAL Yeah, if someone is unattracted to you, you're not going to get to date them. Anybody remember "no fatties?" Same thing. As a man, when I'M walking somewhere or am out on some kind of errand (which is pretty much one of the few reasons I ever even leave the house), the last thing I want to deal with is someone want…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:16 PM
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Assuming that my analysis is correct, so is the woman in the picture. Holy fuck why are you turning this on her, and subsequently I, when you keep admitting you are the asshole here: I'm happy to concede that "defending rape apologia" is exactly what I'm doing here. you guys have to mock her for that. We don't have to, but we can, and we have because it's amusing. And you wonder why we almost gouge our eyes out whenever we see "redpill" paired with "self-improvement" or "you BPers are overreacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:10 AM
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Dude, you're being unreasonable Dude, you're defending rape apologia. I have a...lack of empathy Well there's your problem! NOBODY (that we know of) is being put on trial for "sign girl's" sign because no names are mentioned or anything like that. No description of the man, nothing. She's telling her story and you guys have to mock her for that. Then you turn around and wonder why a good chunk of rapes go unreported. With this attitude, you are directly contributing to a major social issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 12:58 AM
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Here's what you and your buddies don't understand: It doesn't matter if she just drank coffee all night and dressed up in a clown suit, she would have been raped anyways because that is what her alleged rapist decided should happen. It has shit all to do with accountability. You know why? Because, yes, an overwhelming amount of people do overwhelmingly stupid shit when they're drunk, but MILLIONS MORE getting drunk everyday avoid self-inflicted drunken catastrophe. How many times have you and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:45 PM
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at least
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:13 PM
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Right here: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/33vmr9/my_rapist_doesnt_know_hes_a_rapist/ Specifically: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85tl26wBy1r07139.jpg Also heavily upvoted. Oh and that "translation" was made by endorsed contributor Ciswhitemaelstrom. This is a real problem. TRP is a space for men only Then why go fucking BERZERK whenever a woman says something when you can "maintain frame" and just politely redirect her to RPW? Why fucking shit on her for existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:05 PM
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God I love the ignorant RP responses pretty much saying "lolnope" without any actual evidence. See that gaylubeoil bullshit essay with (in true RP form) a completely incorrect generalization about an entire group of people whose only thing they have in common is being feminist. Yes. Yes we are. I had sex last night. Our schedules are different, so we don't really see each other as often in the first place, but we always have it at least once per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:33 PM
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Except they literally mocked rape victims. That actually happened. Also, they mock everything feminine (yet expect women to be feminine) or associated with women. Also, if you're a woman and you say a single goddamn word on RP, you aren't treated with basic respect, someone will just say "get out, whore." RP isn't misogynistic? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:25 PM
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OOOORRRR you could link yourself and prove us wrong. Just like that. Just like I've proven redpillschool to be a misogynist douche.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:05 AM
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So you better ask the fucking 18 year-olds RP EC's or 18 year-olds taking advice from RP EC's who CLEARLY know the RP scripture well enough to manipulate female chi to the point whereby they are completely safe from rejection and relationship catastrophe. Oh and go ahead and ask them for me why mocking rape victims makes more women want to bang you, OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:03 AM
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They have a clear ideology That isn't defending rape apologia, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 02:43 AM
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For MEN with high partner counts you ALSO have to worry about STD's, so how in the motherfuck does having more partners as a man give you a "higher sexual market value" when all it does, as you said, is increase the chance of spreading STD's? So in that case, how in earth does being RP make you better when it just makes you a fucking STD hub? Also the rest of that more or less falls on men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:32 AM
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But what the fuck are the consequences? If both parties use protection, what the fuck are the consequences? They both like sex, they both have sex, they're both happy. What fucking consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:15 AM
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST Let's just try to delegitimize the evidently valid claims of tbp in every way possible! Such as outright denying misogyny and NOW featuring just straight-up baseless insults. Great. Just great. Fucking debate sub, this. "Why isn't TBP funny" isn't a fucking argument it's a fucking add ham. Great. You've SAID we aren't funny. Good for fucking you. Now prove the blatant misogyny presented on TRP wrong. Go ahead, do it. Oh yeah, all you have to do is say it's not there and ALL …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:09 AM
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I'm not saying you have to marry someone you're not attracted to or don't respect, but if you flip the genders here, you could say the exact same thing YET RPers firmly believe men have the magical STI penis immunity and love unconditionally. What the fuck? They really can't fathom a woman sleeping around a bit in college then wanting to get married later THEN GO FUCKING DO IT THEMSELVES.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 12:58 PM
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Well I gave you a pretty common example. There are no "maybe's" in RP language. They pretend they're completely right. Even when I bring evidence, I'm still SOMEHOW wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 06:40 PM
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So do you have proof of the contrary? Say in the RP sidebar? Or does the language in there happen to be specifically confident in the truth of what it says?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 06:38 PM
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Nothing about anything RP says us even based on heuristics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 06:36 PM
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Except this is EXACTLY what TRP advertises! 100% predictive power in all behaviors and situations regarding male/female dynamics. They certainly treat it as such, too. Remember that thread where the BPer had a perfectly happy relationship with his gf? How many comments were shit like "lol wait till your divorce"? Any time anyone is in a happy relationship and doesn't subscribe to manosphere/TRP/anti-feminist/femfear ideologies, it's almost always followed with a "just you wait" comment. As if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:50 PM
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Because you could just as easily find that perfect, submissive semi-virginal, 17 year-old perfect, marriage material to marry and 30 years later still get divorced. Why is it that redpillers still encounter relationship tragedy? Could it be that redpill paranoia pandering isn't actually a viable relationship strategy and could actually just create a different set of potential relationship issues? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:33 PM
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But that makes it an insecurity. What is that magical number that makes her a slut? If one guy finds a girl with 4 partners to be a slut and therefore believes that this girl is inherently predisposed to breaking up with this guy and leaving him, but another guy marries this girl and stays with her for 50 years because his n-count tolerance threshold was 6, then no, "however you choose to calculate her N" is NOT sufficient. Guy #1 was insecure about 4-girl breaking up with him and guy #2 didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:51 PM
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SO what number of penises contacted makes her a slut? Is it 1? Is it 5? Or does it depend? If it depends, then sluts don't exist and all this that you're saying is your own insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:44 PM
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Except most shitty comments by those higher-ups are upvoted or supported in some way. Context does nothing, by the way. When you guys say rape, for whatever reason it's never ever ever ever ever actually rape. Because rape, a word that means a very very specific thing, ACTUALLY means consensual non-consent, and all other words that reflect or mean consensual non-con. Except for when rape DOES mean rape. Yeah context means shit in the redpill because it all underscores misogny regardless of conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:35 PM
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So that's why this thread isn't about fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:54 PM
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The reason I put the condition of finding week-or-less-old posts is actually potentially to your benefit here IF what you stipulate is true. If "men are walking dildos" is a common feminist sentiment, then you wouldn't even have to try to find it. On the other hand, RP pumps out misogynistic bullshit on the daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 01:08 PM
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But were you even trying when you were "BP?" That's not even important, here's the point: You say: "Just wait till after your divorce" as if it's absolutely fucking CERTAIN. I love this from red-sympathizers because there's no variation in your world. It is either one way or it's another. Everything happens for a reason, there is no random tragedy, there MUST be a reason for it. And that reason? MUST be your lack of dread game? Your lack of negging? Are those really things that save marriages? B…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:55 AM
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So go get me those quotes from those subreddits. Those quotes must be one week old or less. Spoiler: You're probably not going to find many--if any--supported comments saying men are walking dildos. What I love is that you honest-to-God believe that feminism is some super cabal and that we all hold specific ranks and position within that cabal. Yeah, I hold NO clout because I'm not a blogger, researcher in the field, or serious full-time activist. I hold no clout, but I know many feminists and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:50 AM
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...It's about women because RP men sure as shit are not talking about fat men. More often than not, they're talking about women, and how fat and lesbian they undoubtedly are according to the RP narrative. Most times on RP, when you see the word "fat", it's coupled with "feminist", "lesbian", or "woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:29 AM
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Because TRPers aren't divorcing even after min/maxing their partners and relationships? No, after all that, RPers are still MIRACULOUSLY STILL GETTING DIVORCED! Wonder what that says about le absolute truth of dating? Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 07:03 PM
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I've talked with guys about who they like and what they do in the bedroom. It's never "I make her cum SO fucking hard! VALIDATE MY MACHISMO, bro!" The language OP gives this character is just...unrealistically...mocking?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:57 PM
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Um what? Seriously? "Moms?" Just "moms"? As an entity? Different people on an individual basis are all successful or unsuccessful at what they do on an individual level, you can't judge something as broad as mothering solely on whether the mother worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:43 PM
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The dynamic itself? Absolutely fine. If you've got one party more comfortable being told what to do and one party more comfortable (and stably able to do so) being in charge of everything, fine. What gets me is the REASONS behind why you choose this dynamic. It's a matter of efficiency in getting your partner to just shut up and do what you say. Seeing the very tone I see with regards to just how RPers DISCUSS women, it's quite clear they have nearly no patience for them. As such, saying "I am t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 12:06 AM
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Marriages that turn into open marriages don't last, because at that point, there's no point to being married, since there's a side of the couple that doesn't REALLY want it to be open. But here's what I love If she can't take 30 minutes out of her day (probably 5 minutes for how little he's had it), then there's no reason to even try to save the marriage. Like it's scrubbing the fucking toilet. Taking out the trash. Lol. If sex is a chore, you shouldn't be married to the person you're having it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 11:49 PM
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I have a strange opinion on the entirety of sexual strategy: on the one hand, do you really need sex that much? Because the only result of not utilizing sexual strategy is (potentially) not obtaining as much sex as possible with as many different people as possible. Weirdly enough, people like myself just flat out have better things I could be doing with my time and effort. If I need to shit, sex hits the backburner, if I need to eat; sex hits the backburner. If I need to wake up early the next …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 10:45 PM
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In other news, people hardwired to enjoy delicious foods, sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 11:09 PM
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Did we read the same sign? Because the photoshopped sign has that exact insinuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 01:24 PM
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Wow. 20 upvotes. You guys think we think this. Like you officially think we think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:28 AM
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Slow down. You're literally taking everyday situations and stretching the logic surrounding them to fit your "gotcha" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:37 PM
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Yes but you don't hate women? You're not misogynistic? You just plain don't get to say this shit. Look at what you're saying right now. You don't get to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 12:48 AM
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It does, but so often RP draws the difference between high and low counts simply as "bad" and "good" respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:40 PM
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That has made similar life choices. Like being tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:38 PM
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It's entirely about being a douche. Who STARTS fights? You said yourself that you went ahead and punched a "good friend." What kind of friend does that? In the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd world? It either happens under the influence or you're a douchebag. It's "in our nature" when cornered, but even then it's when we don't have the option to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:36 PM
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Lol such a great argument. You hunt for your food every day, then turn the animal hides into clothing and shelter? Are you fighting other men for clean water sources? No. You're PROBABLY groggily rolling out of bed so you can get to class at 8, down a bowl of cereal, drive more miles in an hour than most people in history could walk in a day, stop off at a gas station to pay money for an energy drink you wouldn't have had access to so you can bear to stay awake. Most likely if you weren't a douc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:45 PM
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Exactly the same as my feelings men wanting women with low partner counts: it's an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:27 PM
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Are you fuckig serious? As I said, savages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:24 PM
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It's a real part of life Utilized exclusively by savages. Literally. When people know of no other way to solve their problems, they beat each other up. You don't see this in offices. You don't see this on the streets of affluent, educated areas. You don't see this in broad daylight on University campuses. It's exclusively coming in to play when drugs, alcohol, or bullshit is flowing. That's it. The last real fight I got into was in 2nd grade. Violence is a fucking myth to me. Violence is what ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:15 AM
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The thing is one of those things is WAY more likely to happen than the other. It's not about what WOULD I choose, because I'd choose neither. In fact I can GAURANTEE that if I go to prison, it's NOT going to be because I allegedly raped somebody. I have NO IDEA, however, if I'm going into a situation and I might get raped. I got blackout drunk at a good friend's house several nights. It's entirely possible that someone at a party there had the opportunity to rape me. I COULD have been raped any …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:22 AM
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Pretty much proving OP's point for her right here. I told many girls I was interested I was a virgin? Guess what? Interest was returned. Turns out different people like different things. But I'm BP, poly, and bi, so I guess I'm the idiot and need to defer to straight RP men to tell me how it REALLY is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:14 AM
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OH MY GOD. The original comparison was straight up rape > prison. Yes. I know the fucking statistics. Prison rape happens. A lot. I'm not going to fucking deny that. But straight up. The comparison was: I would rather be raped than imprisoned. Now there's an implication there that going to prison means that you are likely to be raped, but that wasn't brought up until I made my point. The original point was rape > prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:08 AM
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So you realize that when RPers read that they're going to interpret it as "see, rape isn't that bad?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:47 PM
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I love this. I absolutely love this. You guys just have no fucking idea. You would rather have higher percent chance catastrophe occur rather than lower percent chance catastrophe occur. But we can get you defend absolutely anything. Like WANTING to be raped. Fucking beautiful. This is how deep the RP delusion goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:51 PM
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Clearly nobody saw the evidence. Guess there's no misogyny after all. Hey! Let's go shame women for having sex with multiple men! Then go have sex with multiple women and praise each other for it! NO MISOGYNY! (high fives)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:23 PM
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How about photoshopping the sign from her point of view to derogatory mocking of what the sign said. Then passing it off as "translation." It's not fucking science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:27 AM
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Yeah people do shitty things. But when we don't know someone did something shitty and that someone claims something bad happens to them, is it perfectly acceptable in your culture to MOCK that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:02 AM
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But mocking them is a great way to show skepticism? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 10:24 PM
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It's not like she provided tactical information, number of possible escape exits, and possible weapon locations either. Not like she included the times she was gone and the amount of time between the last time she contacted someone else to the next time she contact someone else. Yeah, her sign leaves out a lot of shit. Does it still mean we should be mocking her? Do we mock theivery victims? No. Police brutality victims? No. So why is it always the rape victims that need to be questioned and moc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:21 PM
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How many people get piss drunk every day and absolutely nothing happens to them? Millions. Fucking millions. Every day. Would being drunk have ended up with her not being raped? She could have been wearing a santa suit and clown paint. Still would have been raped. There's nothing to address with accountability when she didn't decide to be raped. The guy who raped her decided to rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:48 PM
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it's not my fault they have issues with parallel parking or whatever else. BUT EVERYBODY FUCKING HAS ISSUES WITH PARALLEL PARKING! That's my point. This shit you're talking about isn't a woman thing, it's a people thing, and to insinuate that is fucking misogynistic. That's not exactly a fucking stretch of logic, especially when TRPers believe they know the ultimate truth behind dating that usurps all other truths of dating...yet only have FR's as evidence. You say you aren't RP? Why defend them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:46 PM
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They are the same. Yeah, they should have the same rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:42 PM
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No, my point is that you trying to "get women to use ovens" and "keep them from getting out of control" has misogynistic insinuations, this isn't fucking Plato. This isn't fucking aerospace engineering. When you hate a certain group of people, doing bad things to them is completely justified. How much more does it need to be spelled out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:45 PM
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My point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:25 PM
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Struggles=not getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:24 PM
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We don't KNOW if there are parallels to photoshop girl because all we have is that sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:23 PM
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Jesus fuck I can get you guys to defend anything. Shitty, generalizations of massive amounts of people leads to shitty treatment of massive amounts of people. See: holocaust (lelelel something Godwin's Lel) See: Slavery See: institutionalized bad treatment See: restricted rights for some classes of people and less restricted rights for others. It's not fucking calculus as to why being bigoted is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:10 AM
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I'm going to promise you right now that's not me downvoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 06:03 AM
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The sexes are different So fuck it, women can't drive. They have tits and a vagina, how can we expect them to properly navigate a multi-ton vehicle? Fuck it, women can't vote. They have tits and a vagina, how can we expect them to think critically enough to vote properly? No shit, RP beliefs are sexist, that's what I'm saying. But it's not just the beliefs, it's the people too. Those bitter people aren't exactly marriageable, sane, reasonable material.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:52 AM
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It's just one of those buzzwords Like AWALT. Or "the wall." shall I rephrase it as sexism? Will that untrigger you? It all means the same thing. it's just a matter of not letting them get out of control. But men can totally just fuck a different woman every night if he wants. Totally not displaying a lack of self-control there. Men just DO that. KIND of a misogynistic statement there, speaking of which.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:44 AM
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Well you're not not misogynistic. Anything emotional=female emotional=bad female=bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:34 AM
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I can get you guys to defend absolutely anything. You're ignoring the part where you're all still drumming up gender fear with this misogynistic photoshop mocking alleged rape victims. Four is four too many people to have that happen to, but those guys are most definitely in the minority. Like lol they all had cameras who were secretly recording these women? Each of them? Who are you people? Who are you fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:32 AM
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You didn't, but top mod redpillschool did. http://i.imgur.com/1eAtf87.png You're add hamming me, but ignoring the internalized misogyny of your own fucking heroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:28 AM
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But being so obsessed with sex that you'll justify cheating isn't? Lolk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:25 AM
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Why do you care? Because I might as well go ahead and say since all men are rapists, we should castrate them! Don't you see what's wrong with that logic? Don't see what shitty behaviors that would justify if codified into society and religion? It's dangerous for both you and I. Not to mention it's literally incorrect So apply that to women. See the issue? The the problem with being sexist and racist? It lets you, oh I don't know, endorse men cheating on women and then endorse men beating women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:23 AM
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He brings the evidence that proves RP mods and EC's to be misogynists? He must be a girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:17 AM
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Seriously? I brought the fucking evidence. Your fucking heroes are fucking bigots. I proved that. I fucking proved that. In redfuckingpill fashion you bring out A tu quoque example that's just supposed to disfuckingmantle the entire analysis and disqualify it. I'm not commenting on mattress girl because I don't fucking know shit about mattress girl. We're not talking about mattress girl, we're talking about redpillschool being a misogynistic douche and ciswhitemaelstrom being a hypocritical hams…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:16 AM
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Mountains of evidence of you guys denying misogyny, racism, classism, and promoting sex obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:20 AM
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No, I literally haven't read anything on mattress girl, and I don't quite trust anyone perfectly okay with endorsing cheating as a means just to get sex as a source on what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:19 AM
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And know that you guys are so obsessed with sex that you would resort to cheating just to get it? Yeah. Practical ideas for walking fucking stereotypes. You guys are kind of the reason there are still people out there saying men are pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:12 AM
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Jesus, it's mattress girl, mattress girl, mattress girl. Enough already, mattress girl was totally out to unite all women against men to get them all kidnapped and incarcerated so that we could end the human race, jesus! The only reason I'm not commenting on mattress girl is because I'm not particularly educated on her situation, but nice try on derailing the fact that the photoshopped image still MOCKING AN ALLEGED VICTIM! But misogyny? What is misogyny? That soup they serve in Japan?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:08 AM
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Outraged hysterics. Gee I wonder why. http://i.imgur.com/1eAtf87.png But cheating produces results, too! Endorse that too! Endorse cheating! It's self-improvement! We need sex! We need sex! We need sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:05 AM
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LOL YOU CALL THAT SKEPTICISM? It's straight up "Well dude, what if actually...what if actually she just fucked him...no get this sit down and fucking listen dude, what if...what if she had sex...finished...DIDN'T enjoy it--okay, you guys see where this shit's going, you see where it's going? So she doesn't enjoy then get this...SHE CLAIMS SHE WAS RAPED!" This shit doesn't fucking happen. Let me tell you how actual human beings react to sex they regret. They fucking move on. Almost every time the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:02 AM
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No, you being a white man is you being a white man. Me being a white man is me being a white man. There aren't Latina lesbians supporting this shit. It's mostly white men, almost all men just in general, Asian men, and Indian men. Those black men you're talking about must totally not mind the stereotypes then. No, me being a white man and supporting feminism makes socioeconomic sense from my upbringing and my political viewpoints. You can take all that, take my education, take everything I say, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:59 AM
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Whoop there it is! Yet beta is always, always an insult. Being completely alpha? Very good thing, NATURALLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:50 AM
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TRP doesn't care about nice or mean. TRP cares about results. But I see so much "cock carousel" So much "male honor" So much laughing at alleged rape victims, remind me where results are ever supposed to show up here. Do we ever see actual video evidence of field reports? Lolno. Do we see science, actual science backing this up? Lolno. It's shaky evoscience at BEST! It's all "hail Roosh" and "feminists scare me" and "I only want kids for the prestige, I don't actually want to support them."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:48 AM
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But displaying beta behaviors in a relationship is totally healthy, guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:44 AM
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It follows a trend. A trend that combines your specific gender and racial identity with a specific set of ideologies. Aren't many black TRPers, are there? Know why? Because of shit like np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/33gllt/if_you_were_an_asian_man_would_you_marry_an_asian/cqkq8m7
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:42 AM
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TRP does have power over thousands of bitter, angry men. You tell those men in no uncertain terms that women want to be raped and what EXACTLY do you expect? Laws and morality? Theredpill is amoral! Genocide is amoral! It's only moral when you assign morality to it! Until that point, anything that gets you from point A to B is amoral. I hate people who I deem worthy of being hated And they aren't people making wild allegations about the intentions of 1.75 billion people? The man means ravished B…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:39 AM
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he premise of getting raped by a guy who didn't know he was raping her sounds implausible. The premise of getting raped by a guy who didn't know he was raping her sounds implausible. Boohoo the fucking sign she wrote didn't display tactical information, thought processes, weapon locations, or distance in meters to nearby people she totally could have shouted to. Being a cis white male is partial evidence for misogyny? Alone? Absolutely not. In an evidence cocktail paired with mocking alleged rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:29 AM
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But you'll all white knight the fucking field for totally-woman /u/homo_homini_lupus won't you? She's totally a woman. You totally believe her. Even if she is, she displays--literally--post-wall AWALT behaviors as if traced from a fucking coloring book onto reality. But you'll all believe anything she says. She totally doesn't lie. Oh and Roosh! You all totally agree that the only way women should stay in shape is by having sex. If you guys exercise anywhere near the amount you say you do, you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:23 AM
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And that's the other response you get. It's either, "out of context" or "duh." Well let me tell you so what. All men are rapists and should be imprisoned. In fact they should be castrated because you never know who's going to rape your daughter. That's why. That statement right there is why taking a single group of people and endorsing hatred for them is bad. It excuses inappropriate if not straight up dangerous behavior because in your mind, it's okay to be misogynist. It's okay to hate women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:20 AM
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Doubt the story? All I need to ask is WHY you doubt the story. You've given me the answer. Because she's a feminist. That's all it takes. She supports women's rights? Lol bitch. An RPer tells the story? Natural fucking law engraved in universal truth. It doesn't take a large amount of math to take your username, add it with your political leanings, add it with your comment history and downplaying of misogyny, add it with misogynistic comments, add it with RP white knighting, add it with your ton…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:16 AM
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But they're all women, aren't they? They're all SPECIFICALLY women. "The bitch" in your deleted comment underscores a hatred there. The tone in the comment underscored hatred. The fact you went out of your way and provided that image underscored misogyny. The fact that the community upvoted the post and your comment highlights community-driven misogynistic support of "She dressed like a whore so she deserved to get raped hurrrr" That ALONE is misogyny. The fact that the photoshopped image spoke …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 03:07 AM
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Again, more misogyny. You don't exactly have plausible deniability here. Edit: No, leave the comments. The community needs to fucking see this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:57 AM
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TRP is debunked or disproven which they haven't been able to do. TBP has no evidence. They have some out of context quotes that they mined out over eons. Surely, if we just injected those quotes with "the context" they absolutely become perfectly reasonable and non-misogynistic things to say, right? The guy who said that pretty much that then provided this photoshopped image, saying "I like this version": http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85tl26wBy1r07139.jpg Thanks for that, /u/CisWhiteMaelstrom …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:44 AM
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Seriously. These RPers (usually with high partner counts themselves) go on and on about how women with high partner counts are impulsive and tend to have other issues and are generally just unmarriageable... But then what about the men saying this shit? How much better are they if what they say is true? I mean I have a hard time just plain TALKING to RPers. Jesus could you imagine DATING one? Are THEY marriage material? That's the question nobody's asking, but it's the implication RPers lay out …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:07 AM
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It's exactly 26 people, then? That's the scientific number of men that officially makes one a slut? 25 men, you're perfectly marriageable and reasonable and completely in control? But then that one last partner is what makes you unloving, noncommittal, and impulsive? And what about the men with high partner counts? Do they also lack the ability to love?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 06:52 PM
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With a complete stranger during an ONS? Would YOU share that fetish during a first fuck? Yeah that's bravery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 11:39 PM
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I like how she's brave enough to get pissed and shat on by total strangers. And that she's brave enough to share those fetishes with complete strangers in an ONS. Also that she has those rare fetishes lol. Also that those strangers happen to share those fetishes. RP straw man? +3! Come on dude it's not like she brushes her teeth or anything. I mean every girl who sucks your dick has thrown up before. Your logic isn't so sound now, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:15 PM
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I don't fucking know. This woman you've invented is a statistical fucking anomaly. Not only has she fucked HUNDREDS of men, she fucked close family members too? I feel like somebody would have said something about that a long time before marriage. As to whether it affects anything well it would be kind of weird but again, at that point it was so long ago it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 06:07 PM
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You thought feminism aimed to devalue anything feminine? No this is you guys. Mocking anything feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:32 PM
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anything female=bad Misogyny not found Locating misogyny Misogyny not found BP evidence of RP misogyny: 0
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:31 PM
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Again if we were married by this point, likely for a while, whatever ship was in port with whatever partners she had sailed long ago. This isn't about being selective in dating because in this particular situation, you WERE selective in dating. But seriously? You've been dating /married for years and THIS is what's going to make you divorce? God help you when any actual marital issues come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:26 PM
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If I was lied to about it, I'd definitely be angry. I'd be angry about the lie, though, not the fact that she slept with hundreds of men.' In fact, let's break this down. In order for me to marry ANYBODY, I will have had to have dated them for YEARS. Since I'm not necessarily planning on getting married I can't quantify how many, but my wife and I would have been dating for years before we even got married. And how many years is it before I find out how many men she's slept with? If we've got al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 12:48 AM
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The idea that in a perfect RP relationship, the woman never says no to sex (and I have seen that exact phrase used) and as a result the man stays in a relationship with her. If no sex, then no relationship. Sex or nex', as I abbreviate this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 10:24 PM
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RP theory begs and begs on its fucking knees with tears streaming down its face to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:02 PM
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You're still entrusting big chunks of your sexuality with a stranger. That requires, though to a far lesser degree than LTR's, a large amount of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:01 PM
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The thing is RPers (I say you're RP because if he color o you're flair you yourself may or may not be) tend to wholeheartedly believe hey KNOW what women want. It's not brainstorming or speculation. These men say with absolute certainty that they know everything about relationships because supposedly, RP is THE natural truth behind the male/female dynamic (that they can only "prove" with FR's). Yeah, we're bring up the idea that you may indeed have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:49 PM
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It certainly wasn't about important events. It was (understandably as TV was was new at this point) primarily entertainment shows I.e. I Love Lucy etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:51 PM
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And how do you expect things were handled before? Men depicted as rapists is an old world thing. Men expected to unanimously support women and children is an old world thing. And false rape allegations? Someone's never heard of lynching. All these issues were not "made worse" by feminism. The existence of feminism finally highlights the hypocrisy in these notions. In this sense, feminism is doing us favors. Now it's acknowledged that men can be raped. A pretty useful concept if it, yknow, ever h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:34 PM
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... That's all 50s TV was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:42 PM
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And the end result stems from a time before feminism was even a thing. These laws were always like this. Same with the whole "women and children first" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:41 PM
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Is there an actual historical example of this or are you just pandering to RP paranoia?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:39 PM
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The bunch of idiots The EC's and mods themselves spout a lot of this misogynistic bullshit. Hell, EC Archwinger created /r/femalehate. But no misogyny here, amirite? Something something anger phase vocal minority is accually self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 04:04 AM
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It's not like you see reminder posts on TRP reminding everyone to stay in touch with their beta sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:06 AM
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Yet beta is an insult? Almost every actual in-conversation instance of beta being used, beta=bad. It's not like you see reminder posts on TRP reminding everyone to stay in touch with their beta sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 06:30 PM
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Simply that men and women are equally fallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:16 PM
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I'm gonna be completely level here: I am genuinely surprised I haven't been benned yet. I haven't had any issues with the mods so I can't really say anything. Apparently they haven't had any issues with me. So I guess things are OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 05:56 PM
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Typically men have good advice It was men who decided to lock up all the Asians during WW2 because they were totally all Japanese spies. Sound male logic. It's not like both genders are fucking human or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 05:53 PM
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Yet women are still imprisoned for crimes they commit? Yet slut shaming is still prevalent? yet catcalling is still prevalent? Yet abortion is still illegal in many places? Yet access to birth control is still restricted in some respects? Yet we haven't had any female presidents and most of congress is male? Most CEO's are male? Most leadership positions that exist are occupied by men? You're acting like women rule the world here because your shitty therapist told you to be a doormat. We're clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:14 AM
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Training? Coditioning? Acceptance of responsibility for bad female behavior? Unconditional and selfless service? Mandatory minimum? Putting the pieces together? Obligations? Leave right now and get yourself some therapy. I'm not even being sarcastic here you are seriously overblowing things here. What exactly is this conditioning? It's JUST to let bad female behavior slide? and JUST female behavior? It doesn't make any sense especially when nobody in this thread has actually defended the positio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:51 AM
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It wasn't my gut reaction because you're a man. I'm a man. I have no fucking idea where you're getting this idea that anything that happens, it's the man that did it. It's never ever presented that simply outside of an episode of Maury. Shit, it's opposite day over on TRP, then. "A woman did something! A woman did something! Fuck her, she did something." Anytime a woman is involved and it's posted to RP, there's never anybody admitting a man did anything shitty. From Ray fucking Rice to Elliot f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:31 AM
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You'd be hard pressed to use that analysis to then claim that I therefore feel that women in general can do no wrong. Because I specifically say that I don't. Three times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:18 AM
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A severe lack of understand of normal human relationships Says the redpiller... I mean a normal human marriage is between a 45 year-old man who slept around and only contributes money, muscles, and sperm to the marriage and a 16 year-old virgin girl selected for very specific attributes that pose the least risk to the man more then halfway to retirement. The girl then doesn't work or amass wealth and instead watches over the house and man's belongings and children, despite the fact that RP evops…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:08 AM
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It's not completely out of the ballpark I did insinuate that it was speculation that shitty people paired with shitty people breed shitty situations then clarified later that it was indeed just speculation. Then there were the three separate times when I went on to say I don't condone shitty behavior from either men or women. From the way you stormed in here without actual evidence and only AN anecdote claiming victory over feminism, I kind of figured there was a reason shitty things happen to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:05 AM
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And you said I was off-topic...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:30 AM
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But of course "beta" is an adjective and not a noun. Every good relationship requires a balance of "alpha" and "beta" traits. Except that every single instance of the word "beta" equates it to "bad." Not sure where you guys are from where bad qualities are required to have a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:25 AM
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But it does mesh with expectations and conduct, otherwise you are known to have reneged your verbal agreement and you take a major hit in credibility as a human after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:23 AM
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Of course. RP "realism" just thinks rules are for betas, though. That's the vibe I got from the above comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:22 AM
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How many times have I said that yes, women can do wrong. I'm going to fucking cite myself in this thread and you will see. I won't defend that because nobody is saying that shitty women aren't defending shitty women doing shitty things because they're shitty women. I know also, however, that not all women are shitty and that pretty much the entire population of everywhere displays PLENTY of disdain for cheaters. I'm not defending shitty women. Because they're shitty. I know this. I grew up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:20 AM
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So we're just gonna be childish about this and pretend we're holding each others' feelings hostage? I think I know who really needs to grow up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:51 AM
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Criticizing TRP for exhibiting junkie behavior regarding sex or otherwise reacting to "sex obsession" is not "shaming." Grow a thicker skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:50 AM
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Yet the RP can't take the criticism that it's misogynistic with any amount of seriousness. Yeah it hurts womens' feelings. But I'm sure if a bunch of people cornered you, stripped your pants off, and laughed at your dick, your feelings would be hurt too. But really, you should just be able to take criticism about your dick, right? It's not like your dick is specifically JUST your business, is it? People can just go right ahead and make your dick their business. They can just stalk your fb and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:48 AM
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This is why you shitfucks can't argue. Why would I defend something I fundamentally don't agree with? You're demanding I do so and I won't. I've given you my point, which many, if not all BPers share with me: There are shitty women out there and they do shitty things. The shitty things they do are shitty and they shouldn't do them. They're bad, shitty people doing bad, shitty things. Most people don't support their shitty behaviors. On the other hand, mod redpillschool of the theredpill believes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:39 AM
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Fine, but you guys equate cuckolding with cheating. It's not just semantics, it's the hysteria generated behind the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:34 AM
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What else do you call society? How else does it function? At its most elemental level society maintains a complicated system of checks and balances that spans from culture, religion, to government. There are tiny, tiny rules in our day to day lives we abide by. Every single one of us. What you disobey the rules you are somehow ejected from the system either via imprisonment or social ostracism or some other less extreme means. You go to work so that you can earn money so that you can eat and pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:33 AM
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Give me the specific comments in this thread where anyone here actively defends cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:24 AM
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you're a fool if you believe human relationships can be reduce to sets of rules That's literally how society has lasted for all this time. A large scale relationship reduced to a very specific set of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:23 AM
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Can we just go on a side tangent here and talk about cuckold hysteria? OK. The way you guys use cuckold shames actual cuckold participants. A consensual cuckolding is a cuckolding. A nonconsensual cuckolding is cheating. Got it? Stop loading that fucking word with your femfear ammunition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:22 AM
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And myself and every other feminist follows the thought process of one Sally Miller Gearheart? I haven't even heard this name before you mentioned her. Look at that wikipedia link, because it says what I said. They shit on the men's rights movement because the men's rights movement thinks that catcalling is a right. They think spousal rape is a right. They think deciding whether a woman should get an abortion for them is a right. They think not having to pay child support is a right. They think …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:19 AM
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No, you just really want to win. I'm speculating--and I admit it is pure speculation--based on interactions with RPers under the assumption that I am a woman. Believe me, those interactions aren't exactly not misogynistic. Now, no, I'm not defending shitty women. Because they're shitty. I know this. I grew up with some. But I'm also not going to make this broad-ass assumption that you can take a single shitty behavior displayed by shitty women and apply it to at least 1.75 billion women worldwid…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:14 AM
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So it's in a woman's best interest to never have sex with a man with a high partner count. That pretty much takes redpillers off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:01 AM
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Who the fuck is advocating "genocide of men?" Wouldn't that be, like, gendercide instead? Sexicide? And no you shouldn't because it's a fact set in stone that equality drives feminism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:00 AM
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Insecure because back in the day, people had no way of explaining why things were the way they were. So they tied in rulership doctrine with religious doctrine and called it the word of God. They kept it so that they could maintain control over certain types of people. For example, the reason mormons aren't allowed to consume alochol is because it's a leftover from prohibition. The stake ayatollah or whatever decided he had received a vision from God that told him to ban usage of alcohol and caf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:59 AM
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Defend shitty women defending other shitty women? I won't defend that because nobody is saying that shitty women aren't defending shitty women doing shitty things because they're shitty women. I know also, however, that not all women are shitty and that pretty much the entire population of everywhere displays PLENTY of disdain for cheaters. The thing about redpillers is, they're also shitty, so it's not completely out of the ballpark to see why it would somehow be turned into your fault. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:54 AM
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Money. No smart business person does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:52 PM
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Just provide the real world examples. Just show us the evidence. Qui sidestepping for a cheap victory from blind RP white knighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:49 PM
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Yep. There's a whole lot of incorrect shit that came out of adopting blind belief of the perfect invisible creator in the sky. Like forbidding the consumption of pork or forbidding the consumption of alcohol. The American South is highly religious and exclusively teaches abstinence to children. Guess what? They have the highest birth rates. It sure as shit isn't objective fact that drives those institutions. Just like it sure as shit isn't objective fact that drives slut shaming. It's because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:40 PM
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Jusr because it doesn't mean anything to you doesn't make it not misogynistic. That is the problem that you and every single delusional redpiller has: you refuse to accept the existence of sexism so nothing you say or do can be sexist. The statements made in the above quotes are all caustic discussions about women and, indeed, RP is constantly promotin caustic discussion about women. That is misogyny. It's all right there in that link. Quit trying to invent plausible deniability and just accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:33 PM
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Get out of here with your fucking tu quoque. Obviously misandrist notions are misandrist. Any clear cut situation that fits the definition of a word fits the definition of the word. But we're not fucking talking about what's being said about men. We're talking about the above quotes eliminating any plausible deniability concerning TRP harboring and promoting misogyny. Starting with its mods and EC's the quotes in that link do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:27 PM
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I definitely won't say I know everything, but I know for an objective fact that I'm not the idiot here. misogyny doesn't just not exist because you choose to believe it doesn't exist. If you display a disdain, hate, or fear for women, then you are a misogynist. Or a sexist. It's all the same at the end of the day. That's just how words work. That's how language works. It's a word with an accepted meaning and insinuation. Being called a blasphemer might not have any weight to me, but it's true. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:27 AM
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we've socially constructed a system where women are not required to be especially useful or be good No, you didn't, in fact, explicitly say that women entering the workforce makes them less useful. I'm just following your line of logic here. Because Feminism has enabled women to be a bigger part of the work force and you're arguing that feminism (or a similar social construct) allows women to not be useful or good. Despite the fact that culture innately counteracts that theory. If you're not pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:47 AM
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Alright look it's quite clear you're too dense about this. I'm posting these again and I want you to actually read these. http://imgur.com/a/bGiiW#3agrrVG I am reading through them right now and I'm not quite sure what context is missing for the most part here that makes any of the shit said here acceptable. Mod redpillschool says feminists wish they were hot enough to be rape-able But no misogyny? EC Gaylubeoil says women act like children. But no misogyny? Someone is upvoted 15 times for sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:37 AM
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"You just see them saying off color whatnots" right. http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2t7kox/a_small_compendium_of_concrete_manipulation/ It's only promoting manipulation. With, oh hey, support from an endorsed contributor and, hey, it's gilded, and hey, it's highly upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:16 AM
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So if I say "sexism", instead of "misogyny" do you understand my point? Does that untrigger you? Come on, homophobia don't real? Misogyny don't real? it is merely a word to express disdain for people who disagree with normalizing or accepting homosexuality. No, it's merely a word that has a definition and use in a sentence and various contexts in which the meaning of that word pulls out certain implications about the people it refers to. You can say it however you like "gay hate" or "homophobia"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:20 AM
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If I'm following this logic right, you think having tits and a vagina predisposes you to not liking math? I have a dick and I hate math. Am I actually wimminz? And women entering more of the workforce makes them less useful? Women generating more income makes them less useful? Women just plain knowing more things makes them less useful? Feminism isn't making anybody useless, if it were it would have died out long ago. You know why men are drafted and women aren't? I don't know, why don't we ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:11 AM
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And this is why we say you guys are a cult. "If you were a part of our group and really sat down to listen to what we have to say, then maybe you'd understand, but right now you're not a part of our group so you just DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT." I don't need to in order to see the gaping fucking holes in it. I mean TRP is supposed to be THE truth in gender dynamics in dating. It is supposedly natural fucking law. But, what, you can choose which parts are and aren't relevant in your life? That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:03 AM
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Are you fucking kidding me right now? That's the same thing. That might as well be the same thing. How are you defending this? Even WITH small change in grammar, it's still a misogynistic insinuation. This isn't exactly a huge leap in logic. I mean jesus. You guys do this way too much. We take what RPers say, analyze it, find misogyny, lay it out nice and flat for you guys to see, then find a teeeennnnyyy little nigglet in the wording that convinces you that we made a giant leap in logic and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:48 AM
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It's not a part of that group of images, but here's a link. np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31fuj7/veivievs_hands_on_physics_demo_vr_porn_will_soon/cq15l4f
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:21 AM
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I've read enough TRP to know that you're not supposed to listen to what someone says, you're supposed to watch what they do. I saw the things I listed above mentioned or endorsed by RP endorsed contributors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:15 AM
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frequently misapplied Like when endorsed contributor JP whoreington dismantled the achievements and potential of every single millenial 20-something girl because they have absolutely nothing of value to offer apart from sex. Frequently misapplied. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:13 AM
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I don't even know what to say at this point. I mean, RPers lack a lot of self-awareness, but holy shit thems some really fucking stupid fightin' words. I mean do you have any idea what you just did? You just set yourself up as able to refute every single one of BP's analyses with the conclusion that RPers are misogynistic. Because you just said that BP has NO evidence. I am completely mystified right now. I really never thought I'd read that sentence. You just...you have no idea what you're talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:11 AM
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So religious people being against gay rights isn't homophobic because homophobia is just a concept? LOL shut the fuck up. They're homophobic and can't handle the idea of two men fingering each other while wearing wedding rings--because that's the ONLY possible way to think about being gay, right? Okay, misogyny is an actual concept. Like it's a thing today. It's been a thing forever. I can't believe i even need to put these sentences together. What do you call not being able to purchase vibrator…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:51 PM
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sigh places goal posts back where they belong No. You're not allowed to ask a question. You're in a debate sub, you think questions have anything to do with anything that happens here? You think questions are, like, a good way to promote discussion or something? Okay I'm done with that. YES, IDIOT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ASK A QUESTION Him asking A QUESTION isn't the fucking point. It's the insinuation behind the question he asked. Are you so fucking dense to not recognize that? Alright let's unpack …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:44 PM
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Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women Missed that part. And yeah. You do. BP has mountains of evidence. Denying that underscores a severe lack of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:40 PM
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But you can't deny misogyny exists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny I can find examples that meet that criteria in this very thread. It's like denying climate change exists. Or cancer exists. Or homophobia exists. It just exists, it doesn't STOP existing because you claim it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:39 PM
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Hatred doesn't enter the discussion Hatred doesn't enter "women are shit." Hatred doesn't enter "millenial women offer absolutely nothing of value apart from their holes" Hatred doesn't enter "I'm being an asshole to women because all women were bitches to me." Hatred doesn't enter "I feel awesome when I have sex with many women, but feel insecure when women have sex with many men." Clearly I was completely out of line in my analysis. OK are we done here? Let's crack this one open. We're about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:36 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny There it is. Just interacting with redpillers highlights a misogynistic undertone. That doesn't even explore the things they actually say. Which DEFINITELY fit at least of the criteria in the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:24 PM
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The VERY FIRST image shows the whole context of a particular instance of misogyny. /u/fizolof asks: Why is being a misogynist bad? That's all you need. That's the attitude right there. That's it. You're looking at evidence of a misogynistic redpiller. And that's ONE instance of ONE redpiller out of, at this point, countless. This shit is everywhere, how is it so invisible to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 11:23 PM
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How is RP able to deny it's open misogyny? Especially since it trickles down from EC's and mods?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 06:08 PM
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He actually said he feels emasculated because women get sex easier than he does. He linked his entire existence as a man to the rate at which he can fuck different women. That's not insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:38 PM
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TL;DR: slut shaming is rooted in insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 01:50 PM
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We don't nitpick. You hand us this stuff on a silver platter literally every day. The posts we choose tend to be highly supported by the RP community in forms of upvotes, mod or EC endorsement, and/or gilding. Yet you guys still have the gall to deny your misogynistic jingoism in the face of overwhelming evidence. But WE don't bring anything substantial?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:34 PM
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Pssst. The men in power make these men go to war, again, without the women. The men in charge had thousands of years to change that. They didn't. So yeah, my points are valid because you're ignoring fucking history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 02:01 AM
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You do realize you do this to yourselves? Because you're the perpetrators of this bullshit? You endorse and teach this bullshit? Then when women stay away from more men and give out sex even "less freely" you guys are scratching your heads, reading through your script wondering where you went wrong in your manipulation offense techniques. If you're a murder who kills people in the light of day, you don't exactly have legs to stand on to say "well you shouldn't be leaving your houses ever!" Edit:…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 01:53 AM
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Because you prey on the young, insecure ones. And if they're not insecure, through various manipulation techniques in the veins of negging and more: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2t7kox/a_small_compendium_of_concrete_manipulation/ (positive response from EC Cocaine_face. Support in comments, heavily upvoted per relative upvote amounts per post, gilded.) You said it yourself, the women you tend to fuck are shallow. Instead of realizing that you can only pull shallow, immature women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 01:22 AM
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Another point that verifies your internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 12:45 AM
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Just, for the last time ever, I AM a guy. I swear to God I've mentioned this multiple times. So let's take away half the human population right now and see what gets done. On the other hand, let's consider the fact that men decided it was a good idea to firebomb a nation of farmers because of Communist hysteria. And it was men who decided that men can't be raped. And it was men who decided that there were WMD's in Iraq. It was men who decided to spend billions of tax dollars on a 10-year war tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 12:28 AM
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It answers your point because to the not-sex-obsessed (your position as MGTOW reinforces this), the women with good personalities get laid (or at least get laid more often) and the women with bad personalities...nobody wants to fuck with. Consider these phrases and reflect: "Don't stick your dick in crazy" "Yeah, she's hot, but someone somewhere is tired of her shit." "butterface" There's an entire market of "wouldnotfuck" out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 12:19 AM
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Just because you have a good family doesn't mean you can't be introverted or not have many friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 12:06 AM
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it follows that there is no room for the "blame game" in sexual dynamics. I'm pretty sick of you guys denying that you do this. Yeah, you guys tell these guys to get in shape and get good hobbies and stuff like that. And that really is great. Like really, that part of it is great. But then out comes misogynistic jingoism and hamstering of "male honor", "AWALT", "Women are stupid, crafty, divorcing, CC-riding whores and they're giving all the sex they could be having with ME to men less entitled …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 12:04 AM
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As opposed to manipulating women because you're obsessed with sex. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 11:59 PM
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And maybe all the guys going to college trying to avoid physical labor (do you do physical labor, btw, because if not you're not exactly better here) should drop their aspirations to NOT do physical labor their whole lives and put themselves in danger anyways. Because it's a MAAAANNNN THING!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 11:58 PM
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In general I certainly don't disagree. By the way, women not fighting in the army isn't a feminist thing. It's been that way for almost all of history. You know, from when men were in charge the whole time? This isn't exactly new. The traditionalist RP model still maintains the misandrist notions of the past (lol at the 50s rose-tinted glasses). Men primarily paying child support? 50s. Painting the stereotypical image of a rapist as a man? 50s. Universal denial of possible female-male rape with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 11:55 PM
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Under the risk of making a no true Scottsman, those are seriously out-of-date and detested theories in the feminist community. I am a feminist and I disagree win those quotes. Can I also just mention that you completely changed the topic of conversation in order to get your poor attempt at a cheap "aha!" Victory post? In he grand scheme of things it's not like those cheap questions solidify RP's credibility when discussing their ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 10:26 PM
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It's introductory post says women are children. The fact that you still need more convincing and that your worthless defenses of the "how will men know how to be men" is extreme frustrating. So here's a challenge. You claim that there is vital developmental info on TRP. Fine. Take that info and organize an exodus to a sub exclusively for that so that maybe this silent majority you claim are disgusted by the Mods' and ECs' anti-woman jingoism will all migrate there. That would prove either A) the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:39 PM
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You don't need to be an RPer to see the hypocritical misandry in the messages of RP. Of course calling men walking dildos is bigotry, but who among us is saying that? You're designating that role to yourselves when you moan about how you need sex so much, you're perfectly alright with lying to, cheating on, and manipulating women JUST to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:29 PM
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So then that's not how the universe works. It's how your universe works
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:19 PM
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The RP obsession with getting as much sex as possible as rapidly as possible perpetuates that far more heavily than any feminist group. You're doing this to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:16 PM
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Yes and no, but I think you're missing the point. We all don't fucking want to be a provider. Maybe some of us understand we have certain flaws that convince us that we should refrain from being in a serious position of power over other people. This is all about prestige to you guys. This is all about fulfilling your destiny as the ultimate alpha. What happens if it goes to shit (as it so often does)? Nowadays when plans don't work out, there are alternatives though it's obviously very difficult…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 03:55 AM
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However, I do not agree that these comments are representative of TRP, and I have found them to be in the minority. That vocal minority is so vocal because it's the ONLY voice allowed to speak on there. If you DON'T vocalize your hate/fear/paranoia against women, you are banned for "dissenting." An example I saw posted on BP a couple days ago. you have been banned from posting to /r/TheRedPill[1] : The Red Pill. note from the moderators: "Fuck off back to /r/thebluepill[2] . This is not a debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 03:34 AM
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Those things are mostly gone now. Choices, cxj. That was the word you were looking for to describe this entire change. Choices. With more negative freedom comes less societal restrictions on roles and also less specific designation of self from day 1. I'll leave it to you to understand why that is ultimately for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 03:25 AM
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......... Yes it does. This isn't about science being used for good when it can also be used for bad. This is about bitter EC's promoting manipulation tactics that are most likely going to be used by bitter, angry misogynistic men to do bitter, angry, misogynistic things. Read ANY comments section there and convince YOURSELF otherwise. I'm glad you see it as a flaw, but there's a deeper, more dangerous insinuation that these men are obsessed with sex enough and self-centered enough that they wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:13 AM
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For starters: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2t7kox/a_small_compendium_of_concrete_manipulation/ Edit: Response from EC Cocaine_face. Support in comments, gilded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:03 AM
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No they don't. That's a goddamn front. Yeah, they say how they themselves are responsible for their own successes then turn around and bitch about how women are preventing that. By the way, no. EC's have confirmed that it's just for sexual strategy. That's why RP is a thing. So that sex-obsessed, narcissistic, misogynistic men can find justification to: *LIE TO *CHEAT ON *MANIPULATE WOMEN --In order to have sex-- And that's the real thesis statement you RPers don't even think to read into. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:35 AM
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Did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:13 AM
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You use amused mastery and expect me to believe NOW that you're not a misogynist? Seriously, how stupid are you? 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:12 AM
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Um no. Anytime a man and a woman are involved with anything (or fuck even if there IS no woman involved), RP's topkek EC's with over 300 confirmed 1-night stands all get together and assume--without actual case information or testimony to back this up--that the woman is SOMEHOW at fault. So you tell ME that this post is a knee-jerk reaction? Well how about you all stop being triggered by words like "narcissistic" or "misogynistic" and actually use your topkek male (le)gical minds and use your go…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 11:18 PM
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Because TRP is itself an extreme emotional reaction to women having free thought and a choice in sex partner while still being able to be happily married later on. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 06:08 PM
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But it's not the universal criteria, it's your criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 06:06 PM
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A few reasons A font for bitter, angry men to complain about women A font for narcissists to find justification for their shitty behaviors A font for, whatever reason, married men who somehow think manipulating, lying to, and cheating on their wives will HELP their marriages... Men who were nodding their heads with the self-improvement and went along with the ride BPers so they can more easily pull content. Unaffiliated people who like to laugh at the conclusions you guys jump to. That's my gues…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:09 PM
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You disagree a woman, fine. Do you disagree with her just BECAUSE a woman is saying what she's saying, or do you disagree with her actual point? This isn't disagreeing with women. This is clearly displaying an entire demographic of Western women as fleshlights. That. Is. Hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 04:06 AM
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The word "responsible" would need more context for me to even discuss. The truther redpill's context of "responsible?" meaning men are objectively more responsible than women? And lol no incentives. Because we ever actually had incentives before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 03:44 AM
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On the one hand, you guys believe you are the more responsible entity. Yet here you are defending male sloth. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 03:28 AM
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No, you just hate jews and have an excuse of a use for them because for whatever reason, you're uncontrollably attracted to the prospect of using them for your pleasure. Despite the fact that there are billions of places to get the same thing elsewhere. You guys obsessed with sex. I say that because nobody lies to, cheats with, and manipulates someone out of RESPECT. It takes a certain kind of bitterness or past anger to allow yourself to do that. Or you're a fucking narcissist. Have you an actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 03:18 AM
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I am visited by the great Soviet bodybuilder and his Putin-supporting, Poon-tang addictied "Moskels", perhaps you can enlighten me with your superior RP logic as to how the fuck comparing women to sex toys ISN'T misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 02:02 AM
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I realize that they are only products of their environment and their upbringing. Lowering my expectations of women does not mean that I hate them. Yes it fuckiing does. You hamstering idiot. Jesus. Is this so hard to see? That you're being genuinely redpill AND lerwonggeneration in one stupid post? You really belive that millions of Western women have absolutely nothing to offer you? Apart from sex? Well maybe that's just you growing up and realizing that immature people are immature and maybe y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:58 AM
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They definitely tend to ignore the insinuation that they are completely subject to sex. They justify lying, cheating, and manipulating insecure women just because they need to get their rocks off. An inherently misandrist notion I am frankly sick of having to represent as someone with a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:34 AM
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A simile and a metaphor do the same thing. It goes to show, at the very least, how you perceive women. I mean you didn't DISAGREE with them. You didn't say they were wrong. You didn't say that women DO brings things of value apart from kitchen, cleaning, vaginas, and sisters' vaginas. You just went ahead and said, plain and simple: real life millennial 20-something women are already like all of the stuff I described above. Vacant, blank, uninteresting, and not very intimate, and don't form conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:19 AM
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tell you how the sexbot will just have a vacant, blank stare in their eyes, and that men will ultimately miss having an actual "connection" with a real woman. Conversely, many red pill men will tell you that real life millennial 20-something women are already like all of the stuff I described above. Vacant, blank, uninteresting, and not very intimate, and don't form connections with men anymore, because they'd rather ride the cock carousel than get intimate "too young" with a man who may be real…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:10 AM
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There's no hate? Alright. Let's break this statement down. First of all, let's start with the implied analogy that pretty much sits as your thesis statement for the whole paragraph. You're saying millenial 20-something year olds are fleshlights. At the very least a clear cut case of objectification. A literal, in fact, case of objectification. A human being is not a human being in this case, but rather an object you masturbate with when you're feeling horny. Then you go on to say that's ALL thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 12:55 AM
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No, that is my intellectual argument, because you've just demonstrated a clear-cut hate for women. As well as ignoring to demonstrate what exactly makes YOU interesting. People aren't "interesting." They're boring and they lead boring lives. You, me, the women you're talking about. And here you are saying all men of the same age group are just an objectively better entity with no backup to that statement. You are intellectually fucking yourself by not responding as to how that insinuation ISN'T …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 12:38 AM
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So it's only a rejection if it meets your specific criteria of a rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 12:00 AM
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The fact that you're going through all this JUST for sex shows you're weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 11:59 PM
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The whole "shit test" thing? A rejection is never a rejection to you guys. It's a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 06:25 PM
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No, you idiot. By not pushing boundaries while displaying interest. Is this really such a foreign concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 06:23 PM
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"people" This isn't "people are narcissists." This is TRP being a font for a very specific type of person who craves maintenance of power over other people. An inherently narcissistic notion. "People" don't seek that. "People" know what's wrong with justifying lying, cheating, and manipulating for the sole purpose of getting laid. Narcissists are that pathetic, however. Narcissists revel in doctrinated persecution and excuse as well as reasons for execution of absolute power. Those reasons and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 01:26 AM
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You do realize the nightclub is a very specific subculture, don't you? At work, on the street, or in a relationship, "shit testing" holds no real value to actual half-decent human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 01:22 AM
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Oh. Oh. Women aren't perfect creatures. Stop the motherfucking presses, everybody. This just in: Eve is the perfect allegory for humanity in that no matter how nice we have it set up, we'll find a way to fuck it all up. No fucking shit women aren't perfect creatures, but holy shit maybe "How come we never go to dinner" is an actual reflection on whether you're actually paying attention to her as a person. Maybe "I feel I'm being used" is an actual complaint about the vague, half-ass relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 01:21 AM
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You can show desire plenty without pushing boundaries. That doesn't "validate" them, it creeps them out. This is why we say TRPers are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:55 PM
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Then why can't you all wait for sex? Why do you so badly NEED sex that instead of accepting rejection, you push past the solid "no" with lying, cheating and manipulating? Needing sex so much that you would resort to that is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:32 PM
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Nobody said there weren't shitty feminists. That comment only derails my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 01:40 PM
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And I'm telling you it doesn't fucking matter! This is my point! WAITING to have sex is the thing you guys are worst a at and you continue to prove this to me. So fucking what if she's lying about not wanting to have sex (which is seriously just counter productive for everyone involved)? She said "no" so you respect the fucking "no." If you were insanely sick and someone wanted to have sex with you, but you didn't, you wouldn't exactly appreciate it if she said you were shit testing her and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 01:31 PM
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Seriously? You're the guys who can't wait a goddamn minute for sex and thusly justify lying, cheating, and manipulating just to get it. This is no strawman. TRP is the strawman. The entire goddamn idea that men have this unfathomable need for sex whereas the pure, innocent women do not is the fucking strawman. Sex or nex' is the TRP attitude on sex. There is no room for patience in any of that literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:16 AM
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you, nor me, have any proof that she is in fact being honest. And my point is: WHY THE FUCK DOES THAT MATTER?! The answer? I know exactly what it is: sex. Which leads me to my very, very first point which was that TRP justifies shitty behavior such as ignoring hard boundaries with: "Men are all so desperate for sex, they shouldn't care if they push boundaries because SEEEEEEXXXXXX"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:14 AM
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No. This is pretty much the exact attitude prevalent on TRP regarding male sexuality. Sex or nex'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:00 AM
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as led me to conclude you are giving me a shit test as we speak. And this is why TRPers should absolutely stay away from sex and dating. I am leveling valid complaints toward the entire TRP system and "lol shit testing" instead of actually challeging the notions TRP set in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 02:32 AM
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Wow. Holy shit. Is that what you got out of my paragraphs above? This isn't about being able to turn someone on. This about someone saying no and TRPers not respecting that because they don't BELIEVE it's a no. As well as TRPers just generally being too impatient for a no in the first place. To them, rejection is literally nonexistent because to them, if it's not you then it's someone else and it BETTER be you. Because SEEEEEEEEEXXXX
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 01:44 AM
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This goes way beyond just liking to think about sex a lot. I like to think about sex a lot. It's one of the more important things to me. That being said, if someone wants to wait to have sex or for whatever reason can't have sex, I'm not going to brush off that boundary as a shit test and then continue to press for sex. TRP, on the other hand, encourages various incarnations of pushing boundaries they perceive to be false. It's like feeding a vegan meat because you don't actually believe they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 01:27 AM
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Honestly, I'm not even being sarcastic. My point above is the implication of using "combating shit test" as an excuse for asshole behavior. Which. to TRP, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 01:06 AM
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No. It doesn't exist. Nobody but narcissists, immature people, politicians, scammers, and salespeople ACTUALLY shit test. What kills me is that you guys can't reply to"I'm not having sex with you tonight" with a simple "OK." Like, you HAVE to have sex that night or you will fucking DIE. Like there is NO choice in the matter. It's a rather misandrist notion that basically says, "Men are all so desperate for sex, they shouldn't care if they push boundaries because SEEEEEEXXXXXX"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:52 AM
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I mean that IS the defense they give...If that were Agharta or Redpillrevolution saying that, it would be +20, gilded thrice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:49 AM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. TRP is not meant to be narcissistic in itself, but the narcissistic jargon behind it gives it a font for many narcissist types and self-centered, and/or, angry, bitter people to stand on with regards to--ironically--their morals. It's idea of "amorality" gives them justification for shitty, erratic, illogical, or inappropriate behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:41 AM
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No, that's what it SHOULD be. What TRP IS is a place to tell everyone how scared of women they are and how angry they are about things that aren't true and how much they NEEEEEEEEDDDD sex even in the most inappropriate or unnecessary situations. They DO give advice...on how to make women feel insecure so that they're easier to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:24 PM
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Pretty sure TRP despises the idea of waiting to have sex. Pretty sure the whole point of TRP is to circumvent social convention and have sex with as many people as possible as rapidly as possible. "Waiting" is like one day of assessment. They freak out in any post whenever they are told they need to "wait" to have sex. Usually it gets responded to with the phrase "next her."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:21 PM
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I am a a man and this is my point. We aren't nearly as horny as society, and TRP, exaggerates us to be. "unfathomable" levels of urge intensity according to the guy I responded to. "Unfathomable." Yet somehow we fathom ways to fucking deal with it. This is my problem with TRP. They CAN'T deal with it. They're so obsessed with sex and the idea that THEIR urges MUST be satisfied that they go ahead and use that as a justification to lie, cheat, and manipulative people...just to fuck them. That's ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:16 PM
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Lol go ahead and tell most TRPers to wait to get to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:12 PM
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No, but I also don't know anyone in prison period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:17 PM
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No problem. Yeah, I'm bisexual, poly, and sex is one of the most important things to me. That being said, I still have fucking priorities. If my need for sex requires me to go out and cheat and lie and manipulate in order to obtain it, there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:05 PM
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Spoiler: You have no idea if you're picking a shitty captain. Just how you have no idea if you're dating a shitty woman who will "paternity rape" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:03 PM
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And women must pay child support or go to jail if the court mandates that the child goes to the father. ...Do you know at least 15 men personally who have even gone to jail for having drunk sex with someone? No, you don't. Yes it's a problem, but it's never going to happen to you if you're even remotely careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:02 PM
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Do you remember when you were a teenager and you realized there were things that your parents did that were inherently hypocritical or even detrimental? It drove you crazy, didn't it? You couldn't actually ask for anything with any kind of autonomous authority. Anything you did at all had to go through your parents. To already-full-grown, freely-thinking, working, learning, even child-rearing women, the prospect of having to check in with literal daddy is a dehumanizing prospect, especially when…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:18 AM
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Yep that's the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 01:30 AM
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how much men want to fuck at any given time and the intensity of our urges are extraordinarily unfathomable for the average female. As another man, shut. The fuck. Up. This misandrist bullshit has got to stop. You don't have this uncontrollable lust that controls every waking moment and if you do, see a goddamn therapist. You're just hamstering away your shitty behavior. If what you say were the case, we would be seeing HUGE spikes of rape cases amongst those in puberty with out-of-control hormo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 01:05 AM
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I asked myself this question and I now take the bus. No ragrets. Seriously, if something is so detrimental to you other than as a status symbol and a means to get off, why the fuck bother dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:58 AM
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I don't believe women have anything to gain in marrying. All bad aspects of marriage apart from divorce hassles are the bad aspects of live-in, long-term relationships. Marriage is a bad deal for everybody, but on the other hand it makes performing actions as a family unit ridiculously easier. Also if anything bad happens to your SO, you can see them in the hospital and act with power of attorney if they are unable (I might be wrong on that last part there). My parents married and then divorced.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:54 AM
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Except where, you know, "alphas" and "betas" tend to be used as nouns rather than adjectives for the most part on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 01:27 AM
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You are just making things up Nothing here is faker than you are. Again, it was postulated "women like to be raped" that includes you, right? This is the only reason I can conceive that would logically allow you to say things like, "No really, women want to not have any control while being forced or coerced into having sex. They really want to be afraid that they might not survive once it's all done. They really want to be afraid of what their friends' and families' reactions will be upon report…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:18 AM
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... Really? Did you just compare going on vacation to Paris to being raped? Did you really just hamster that? THAT is patent nonsense. Yes. There ARE fantasies that people actually want to come true, like banging Kate Upton or going to Paris. Being raped? Can we just think about this for a minute? Any control as a human being that you had, any dignity or sense of self is removed entirely. It also hurts one way or another. You ever heard of aftercare? There's a reason it exists: Because if shit g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 10:22 PM
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Here's the thing. A rape fantasy is a rape fantasy. By the fucking way, do YOU have them? Do your friends have them? Do THEIR friends have them? That study study says, what maybe almost HALF of women surveyed have rape fantasies? By the way, FANTASY, FANTASY is the key word here. Nobody "wants to be raped." Do you want to be raped? Well you're an RPW so apparently the answer is yes. Wanting to ACTUALLY be raped is WAY different from having a rape fantasy. It's the difference between watching a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 10:01 PM
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Here's how I see it: She isn't with any of her past lovers. She is with me. She has been for a while now. There's a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 11:32 PM
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Because you guys definitely wanted to raise the kids in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 11:29 PM
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Eh sort of. Just the idea that people are saying "well dating strippers are ok!" but when BPers say it, they reply, "well their sexualities are different and are probably crazy, so nexting." You wrote it so I'm responding to you, but this idea includes everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:04 AM
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Waitwaitwaitwait! NOW you guys can LTR sluts just because they're hot and adore you? Jesus backpedal some more, will you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:58 PM
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What the fuck this is upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 03:01 AM
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No, it's not how you define it, it's quite clearly how TRP defines it because TRP is just quite plainly the absolute truth for everything relationships and male-female interaction. There's not a millimeter of doubt as to what is or what is not with RP. It either is or isn't. Otherwise it's not true. And TRP therefore isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:59 AM
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Yep. From cavement, through medieval and black plague, through rennaisance, through through feudal Japan, through fucking antarcitic exploration, through colonialism... MEN WERE THE PUSSY KINGS THEY ALL GOT PUSSY IT WAS SO FUCKING EASY AND THEY ALL FUCKED! YEAH! FUCKING PRE-1900 MASCULINITY WAS WHERE IT'S AT! SEND THOSE FUCKING 8 year-OLD'S TO THE FUCKING AGOGE WE'RE FUCKING MEN, BITCH! FUCKING FEMINISTS TOOK AWAY THE PUSSY BECAUSE FOR SOME REEZON THEY CONVINCED THE WIMMIN TAHT THEY HAD NATURAL …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:53 AM
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If the person knowledgeable on the subject just so happens to be guy, I'll call him. If it's a woman, I'll call her. Different people are better than other people at different things. You might think you're a great soccer player. Then a pro woman soccer player comes and kicks your ass. You're not better because you have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:29 AM
1

If they're somehow capable of doing so, yes. That doesn't happen, though, so it's nothing anybody worries about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:19 PM
9

I'm honestly curious as to what the actual natural consequences to being a slut are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:28 AM
-2

You do realize nobody ACTUALLY defends a cheating anybody don't you? There is no way you got cheated on and your friends sided with her. Everybody hates a cheater regardless of gender. No you guys seriously are paranoid and afraid of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:37 PM
-1

Um hello? These people would already be married. They would have discussed whether or who should stay home to take care of the house and kids. If the couple agreed that it would be perfectly fine if Dad stayed home because Mom for whatever reason made more money, then this marriage operates as "normal" in all other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:33 PM
-1

You guys are way too paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:30 PM
0

Yes but it's never ACTUALLY done arbitrarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:30 PM
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If he isn't actually DOING anything as a SAHD, then yeah, he's a bum. If he's doing his part and keeping the house in good repair, clean, and keeping food in the fridge I can absolutely see how that could be attractive to couples. Just like the concept of the SAHM. Just with a guy instead of a girl. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:37 AM
-2

You don't NEED a reason, but there's always a reason. Divorce isn't this whimsical thing that you can afford to pull out of your ass when a spouse loses his/her job. Not to mention, you did a bad fucking job of finding a partner if THAT is the reason she divorces you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:30 AM
0

Correlation does not infer causation. When she gets a divorce, I doubt the reason you gives a lawyer is, "well, he just lost his job."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:55 AM
-2

And just because you're afraid of women doesn't make you an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:54 AM
7

Exactly. At some point you really have to evaulate why you'd even wait for "approval." The RP system ignores the fact that if you're going to try and wait her out to see if she's "material", she's just going to go somewhere else. Isn't that "orbiting" anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:45 AM
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They are. That's why they (supposedly) were intent on a relationship in the first place rather than just casual encounters. That's why (supposedly) she's changing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:40 AM
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If you don't buy that, I really hate to show you the weird kinds of shit that life throws at you that affects all kinds of aspects. Sex drive included.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:39 AM
0

Oh we do? Show me. Because if it's simply an agreed upon part of the relationship and both sides are perfectly okay with it, then being a SAHD is absolutely viable. As long as the SAHD actually does his SAHD things, it could absolutely work. Women don't despise SAHD's. They dispise SAHD's who don't do what they promised they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:36 AM
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This is pretty much the end result of "game." Anyone with neurons knows what's coming 10 miles out and they don't want it. If they DO want it, game wasn't necessary in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:57 AM
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Not letting petty insecurities or gender fear get in the way of your trust and faith in your relationship partner. If you're letting that stuff get to you that deeply, you shouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:07 AM
0

Except if you NEED to resort to passive-aggressiveness to save your relationship, you shouldn't be in that relationship and it's a dick move.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:44 AM
1

If women are treating you that badly on a regular basis, you really need to figure out what you're doing wrong because no man I know, not myself nor any other of them are treated badly by women out of any kind of nonsensical virtue. If women are treating them/me badly, it's because we/I are doing something bad. Seriously who the fuck upvotes comments like yours? They hold no water in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:42 AM
8

Except they put this just world bullshit on things way more complicated than they credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:36 PM
8

You want to show us where the "straw man" in this typical relationship is? TRP is the straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:35 PM
2

People upvoted this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:30 PM
-1

No really guys. I can't see the misogyny. Where is the fucking misogyny I just can't see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:27 PM
2

to show that the guy shouldn't be taken for granted. Yet there are a billion ways to show that without being a passive-aggressive dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:26 AM
2

All of the "setups" listed here could be interpreted in a myriad of ways depending on the character of the people involved And this is the downside of TRP, PUA, and "socialization strategies" in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:07 AM
1

Ding ding ding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:56 PM
0

Ironically it's RPers who are all over the transactional relationship model. Plenty of people who aren't RP are somehow A) not attractive, B) forward about their sexual intent, and C) getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:37 AM
1

......... Doesn't RP do the exact same thing? Not to mention, no, those two types of sexes are actually the same kind of sex. Unless we're differentiating men who give sexual satisfaction from men who do not. Then, yes, fair enough, women more sexually satisfied will enjoy that sexually-satisfying sex more than she would will the "less satisfying" man. In general, she'll still enjoy it. People date each other for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 12:48 AM
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No, it's not. Most people aren't ambitious and psychopathic enough to be hypergamous. In general, if someone is offered a chance to move up in the world, they'll take it. Nobody will argue that. That being said, the way RP construes it into biological vaginal hypergamy is quite ridiculous. Most adults stop dating because their relationships aren't working out. Not because a sexual promotion just slipped inside them. Maybe it's different in the casual dating world, but nobody just drops their cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 12:30 AM
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The victim mentality Ah yes. The shreiking feminazi "Gotta get mine" narrative. Of course. Let's go to TwoX and look at the top 20 posts to verify this phenomenon. I had to see Fifty Shades of Grey (with my mom!) and most of y'all have the good taste not to, so let me tell you how it went! "Just get a gun!" Women’s Heart Risk is Reduced 20 % by 10 Minutes of Exercise Moment Tools UPDATE: just found out I'm pregnant, really scared & I'm getting an abortion. My Want to be Feminine Does Not Make Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 12:11 AM
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Well we're discussing safe places in the context of reddit, not necessarily the whole real world. In the real world, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:33 PM
3

I don't know, what is it with men, ties, and hacksaws? I don't get the whole valentines charade either, but let's not pretend we don't have equally weird or irrational obsessions as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:30 PM
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Go to any recent, big, slightly controversial thread in twox. Sort comments by "controversial." Yes, actually, women ARE bombarded by oppressive voices at every angle by people who don't take them seriously. Primarly TRpers or MRAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:28 PM
6

Starting to see the pattern here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 11:47 PM
0

Am I? Where's the science behind TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 03:35 AM
0

Well scientific inquiry and science are pretty much directly related as entities. With that, you said scientific inquiry should never be halted due to some groups [sic] fear what will be found. My point is that there is no science behind the red pill to begin with, and it's mostly based of insecurities, so look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:21 AM
-1

Because theredpill is absolutely ALL science. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 01:03 AM
0

Is she ACTUALLY a woman? Let's find out...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:51 AM
2

Well-meaning, wonderful men who aren't nice? Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:33 AM
1

Sure. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:24 AM
0

Being attractive only gets you so far. It's generally an objective advantage to be attractive, but it's not the be-all, end-all of dating. There are far more factors at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:24 AM
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Yet most people maintain a balance of those things. Obviously you're going to come of ass either awkward or aggressive if you go too far in either extreme. You can be a nice, assertive individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:27 AM
1

Personally, I am of the opinion that, no there is no God. Not necessarily because there's no proof, but because there's no proof that proof of such a thing like God could exist. And then if I say God exists, what about the other gods? Do they exist too? There's no way in hell they all exist without some kind of obvious physical manifestation, which nothing like that has. God is supposed to control everyone's and everything's lives on an intimate level, that means that God would need a place to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:57 AM
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being nice =/= being passive. They tend to go hand in hand, but there are plenty of nice, assertive guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:53 AM
1

Where do Christians fit into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:32 AM
-2

Lololololololololololololololol source please? Being nice doesn't mean you're bending over to please anyone and everyone. It's maintaining a friendly, sympathetic demeanor and being patient rather than overtly aggressive, pushy, or authoritative. You know, the opposite of asshole behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:59 AM
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You know what? Being a nice guy is actually GREAT dating advice. The thing is, it requires you to genuinely BE nice. Acting nice just to get laid is a totally different thing from BEING a nice human being in general. If you aren't genuinely nice, you're going to look like an asshole. And that's the problem with "be yourself" or "be nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:46 PM
-1

"I'm offended" I bet you aren't. And you should take a look at your posting history if you wanna talk about personal attacks. For fuck's sake, check HHL's too. Maybe you'll realize something obvious that BPers have noticed a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:25 PM
-1

Are you going to ever actually respond to something instead of derailing? You seriously are the physical representation of AWALT. RP keeps you around as their proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:18 PM
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No, no, continue. How does being poly and bi affect the truth. Unless you can show to me how exactly you apply that to 25% of the world's population, these theories hold no water. Spoiler alert: They aren't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:13 PM
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Because everything you type happens to be an insult of some degree. How can you call yourself an RPW? You're AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:11 PM
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You guys are literally retarded. This is what's funny to me: HHL is the wisened representative and mod of RPW and as such theoretically stands as the RP representation of the perfect women. However, she's also the physical incarnation of AWALT and you guys support her non-arguments. Just reading her comments and her refusal to actually ADRESS issues just makes me ask, "How is TRP not shitting itself in fear of this literal AWALT. She is absolutely nothing like the ideal RPW but you guys still ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:10 PM
4

Precisely how much more logical are men more than women? Because on the individual level, people make enough stupid chocies in their lives--men and women--that whatever statistic is associated with that just doesn't apply. If men were really THAT logical, imagine the bullshit we wouldn't have gotten ourselves into. Edit: And if women are THAT illogical, why do the men trust them with the upkeep of their households and children? On the part of men, isn't THAT illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:02 PM
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No. You're a narcissist. But leave it to a redpiller to fail to grasp the concept. Even when you fail to see your own words that you wrote and what their connotations for the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:44 PM
1

Yet it's health and career...to get sex. Look, if you're willing to CHEAT because you need sex that much, you have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:43 PM
1

Yeah you guys care about sex way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:22 PM
15

Really? You guys are the ones choosing to swallow "Women are dogs" and "men are more logical than women." Got any proof for both of those? If not, TRP is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:17 PM
76

"But no guys, we're not mysogynistic rapists. We actually LOVE women :) (a little too much)"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:16 PM
1

You shouldn't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:10 PM
1

It's shit because you can't apply all that to 1.75 billion women. Even the 150 m women in my country are all varied enough that the advice isn't surefire. Not to mention nice guys don't finish last. Where do you get this shit from? Who believes that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:09 PM
2

Because that's A) a false equivalency and B) violence isn't the answer. If you think it is, you really shouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:06 PM
21

Oh boy is the inverse true. "Women receive ENOUGH empathy." Coming from TRP, any talk about "I don't get any empathy" makes me laugh when all they do is willfully disassociate from empathy in order to be more "amoral."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:05 PM
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Um, hello? "Women are children" "Women are dogs" "We know what women want and women don't know what they want" "We are smarter than women because we have penises" "We are more logical than women because we have penises" Unless you don't agree with each of these phrases, then you agree that you are stupid cumdumpster puppy and the only reason for your existence is procreation and recreational sex on your man's whims. That is current RP. Just go and read the fucking subredding and see the support …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:19 AM
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It's not that I have mentally ill understanding of what RP is, it's that I have a completely accurate understanding of what RP has become. And how it technically affects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:07 AM
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No, your entire gender has a name. And the people you support named it so. Have fun being trained to do their bidding regardless of your genuine wishes. After all, how can RP men, the men you so wholeheartedly support, ever get what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:55 AM
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You're silly for wholeheartedly buying into and supporting the ideology that classifies you as a dog child. You are literally AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:38 AM
-4

Read. The fucking. Paragraphs. Maybe you'll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:30 AM
1

That's a genuinely good question. Technically speaking, why would you? Why should you? Nothing TRP does affects you. Except for the fact that you wholeheartedly accept everything TRP supports or does. I've yet to see you actually speak out against the vitriol of TRP despite your constant "I don't give a fuck" attitude. This directly interferes with your RPW "Be pleasant" attitude. Which I honest to God have never, ever seen from you. You are seriously the worst RPW if you can even claim yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:25 AM
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You haven't been paying much attention, have you? To TRP, Women are children dogs--aka puppies. Greet your new identity, puppy. Because that's your official TRP designation. And because you have a vagina, nothing you ever accomplish will ever change that. Sit, slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:55 AM
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Oh, so more TRP pseudoscience and a Soviet bodybuilder. Most commonly associated with TRP. Yeah, you're proving my point for me. Are there any peer-reviewed, scientific sources saying women are dogs? No. Give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:39 AM
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Except TRP was the strawman in the first place. "Women are dogs." Come on, dude. The whole thing is set up to be a strawman. What context could POSSIBLY justify that phrase? What fucking context could do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:52 PM
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The context? Oh right! The TRP-word-spun context that says that women aren't LITERALLY dogs, just that they, as a biologically inferior entity require the assistance of men in order to thrive, though not necessarily to survive. As such without their "masters," dogs--I mean women--are nothing! Did I get that right? I said this before, the context doesn't matter. It's got 5% of some kind of unproven judeo-Christian truth from 300 years ago and then 95% injected TRP pseudoscience that sets that tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:37 PM
-3

I once saw someone say all women were literal dogs, sooo extremism goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:16 PM
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A murder also leaves a dead body Unless they're smart and dispose of it. Which means you don't have that evidence. Which means a murder happened but it can't be proven to have happened in the court of law. Which proves your point wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:15 PM
-3

Irony coming from the puppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:14 PM
1

After seeing the hamstering firsthand, it just looks so much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:58 AM
1

Yet a good captain knows something about nautical shit. Yet a good captain actually knows about hull maintenance and communication with the crew. A good captain can sympathize with the crew because he's been in their shoes before. My issue with TRP is that TRP men haven't. They just gave themselves the titles of captains and bought themselves boats and decided that they were relationship material. Yet they know absolutely nothing about relationships. Just ask any TRPer about empathy and you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:56 AM
1

Of course she doesn't respond. No wonder TRP thinks AWALT, Homo is AWALT in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 02:39 AM
8

You're the wise, seasoned RPW representative. Shouldn't you be telling her what she's doing right and wrong and weigh in with your own experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:48 PM
6

No, really. Fat acceptance isn't actually saying "Eat shitty food" "Don't exercise" "Be the worst you can be." Nobody says that. They're not saying you SHOULD be fat, they're saying you shouldn't have to give a shit if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:59 AM
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So THAT made people fat? FAT ACCEPTANCE MADE PEOPLE FAT? You've got this backwards, the fat acceptance movement is a response to obesity, not a cause for it. Not to mention, people get fat for a billion weird reasons. yeah, it's related to eating too much, just not eating the right things, and not exercising, but there are a billion reasons for that. Feminism isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:55 AM
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No, you think that. You're the one linking feminism with obesity. I'm saying that the only link is that they're occurring at the same time. There are absolutely no other ties between obesity and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:38 AM
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When women ar ein control of the family everyone becomes a big fat out of control pig and little girls are dressed like hookers. restraint and discipline arent exactly female virtues, in case you havent noticed And that trend comes specifically from having women in charge the household? What about the fat men? Do you still get to blame the woman there or is the man actually capable of fucking up and making a mistake or slipping into depression or whatever causes you to eat enough to fat? You cit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:33 AM
1

But NO, they're not narcissistic! Where's the narcissism? Seriously, I just CANNOT fucking see this narcissism BP keeps talking about! Yeah, that's exactly what he's saying. TRP is a joke and every comment along the lines of that one is the punchline. They say BP cherrypicks. How can they say that? They hand us this shit on a silver platter every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:26 AM
0

Yeah but that's not going to help them, it's just going to keep them fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:24 AM
0

So how do you explain in shape, successful single women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:23 AM
1

Are you willing to consider that other forces at work? No, she's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:21 AM
2

Except there's at least some truth to it. You deeply Agree with an ideology that classifies you as a puppy and thinks you should have Zero rights. I'm just dumbfounded that you consistently don't understand what that means for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 02:29 PM
1

Since you yourself are a woman, what exactly would you classify yourself as other THAN human, despite the fact that you can only mate with other humans and other humans can mate with you? What species are you, in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:30 AM
1

Say what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:37 PM
6

It's highly doubtful anybody's 80 year-old, cancerous grandmother is hypergamizing and riding the cock carousel. But don't tell TRP that. ALL women are like that! NO exceptions Biology sezso.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 12:47 AM
7

They're worse in what? Shit testing? So do we include 27 year old women in AWALT? How about 30 yer old women? The more women we include, the more AWALT proves itself wrong. Not to mention, what even is a good example of shit testing? Genuine questions and concerns tend to be construed as shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:39 PM
5

Often that there is none. Psychology has not confirmed the biological, involuntary mating examination in women (ages 18-25, of course. 27 year-olds somehow transcend this) called "shit tests." Also no science supports that men are the objectively superior sex because there IS no superior sex. Science has not decreed that men and women are different enough that the men get to be people and the women get to be puppies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:28 PM
1

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 02:09 AM
5

Reality check, motherfucker: EVERYONE is damaged goods. Noticed who the majority of RP is? Bitter, young, sexless men who are obsessed with sex. BUT WE'RE DAMAGED!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 01:41 AM
2

No. We don't really need more people in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:55 PM
1

I agree that it should be proven. I'm not arguing for automatic accusation, I'm arguing that a law designed to take a rape accusation and grant the defendant to flip it around as an accusation of false rape accusation is more detrimental to those who would report rape than it is benefial to those being accused of it because there is already so much stigma against reporting rape in the first place and there just isn't enough false rape accusation to warrant a counter-sue capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:16 PM
1

It's not that I think it's true, it's that this is a real-world phenomenon experienced worldwide. Rape is simply and underreported crime because of the element of sexuality and intamacy involved. There is no such thing with robbery. No such thing with murder. No such thing with fraud. It's just rape where this is present. When you get robbed, nobody says, "You invited that man into your house (despite the fact that you didn't know his intentions) and he robbed you. You shouldn't have invited thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 07:06 PM
1

Yeah. Sucks to be him. It takes a lot to prove a rape in the first place, so to be falsely accused is particularly rare. This goes with anything, really. It's just really hard to fabricate a crime and get a solid accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:38 PM
1

Off the top of my head, none. But that's okay because I can guarantee you that me and none of the other men in my life will ever be falsely accused of rape, if accused of rape at all. How many men do you know where this has happened? If you know one, do you know another? Do THEY know men to whom this has happened? If not, then false accusation of ANY crime is pretty far down on my list of shit to worry about. I'm more worried about being raped than falsely accused of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:27 PM
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No, it's not. If she has sex with you (or anyone), she apparently loses value as a long-term partner. So actually, it's to her detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 04:56 PM
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it doesn't devalue or cause damage to the people who engage in it Tell that to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 04:52 PM
2

YOU are the one making the BS claim that a ton of rapists are walking around free. Because it's true. Because you haven't been raped and haven't actually realized just how difficult it is to win that kind of case, then you don't understand that it's pretty much a disincentive to report. Add being a man to that and fighting an uphill battle becomes fighting an uphill battle on Mt. Everest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 04:50 PM
6

Oh, REALLY? Sell it to me, especially the part where men more likely won't report rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 04:21 AM
6

Absolutely not. We have a big enough problem as it is with the underreporting of rape. Instituting this law would just make things worse in that regard. I can just imagine that, as a man if I were raped, I already receive a heavier dose of skepticism compared to if I were a woman. Compounding that with the possibility that my rapist could turn the whole thing around and give ME jail time with that would definitely discourage me from reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 01:46 AM
7

I like how RPers believe they aren't and are actually MORE stoic than everyone else...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:40 PM
5

Except when you start to recommend recognize the RP interaction and reaction script. Normal people don't dread or neg for example, and agree and amplify is pretty obvious. Then there's the oddly specific vocabulary. They're easy to spot if you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:38 PM
2

And exactly how big of a connection with reality would you say RP has?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:32 PM
6

Yeah bringing up a fucking ask women thread is pretty irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:55 PM
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Because we don't need special rebranded words and phrases that convey things they don't actually mean or invent things that don't actually exist,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 02:24 PM
3

Men are not allowed this same pass. You haven't been to a football game lately, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 02:22 PM
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To quote John Lajoie: "I can't have sex with your college degree." If it's just an ONS, nobody gives a shit if you're a doctor or a fast food dishwasher. Career might come into play in an LTR, but it's very unlikely in the case of an ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:01 AM
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It's still clearly an oversimplification of a larger, more complex issue. The little "abuses" you mentioned are just you becoming more bitter as resentment grows between you two due to the mismatched libido. And coercion? Coercion for what? Manipulation to do what? What's the endgame here? Yeah, witholding sex can be a part of a larger systematic abuse, but witholding sex on its own can be due to a myraid of reasons and should not solely be considered abuse. Again, I feel like that's an oversimp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:52 AM
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You don't get it because you aren't considering all the angles. This is easy to most people. How about we switch it up: Let's say your partner has a much higher libido than you do and you can't keep up. Since you can't keep up, you turn her down more often than you accept sex. You are witholding sex from your gf. Therefore you're abusing her. Does that premise REALLY sound reasonable? Obviously your intent isn't malicious. You aren't trying to control her, you simply can't keep up. You aren't a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:16 AM
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Deadbeadroom situations are simply symptoms of larger issues in the relationship. If you really think "witholding sex' is the issue, you're only scratching the surface. To call it abuse (with the exception of witholding sex out of spite or other clearly malicious intent) on its own is a bit ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:06 AM
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Taking a look at that sub, it appears that most of those situations are related to deeper, underlying personal or relationship issues. If their partners aren't willing to look into the issues in the first place, that's the problem. The actual witholding of sex isn't. It's simply a symptom of a larger relationship issue of some kind. So, communication is step 1 to the cure here, which many of those posts don't seem to get much of. They're just in bad pairings or are experiencing medical issues. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:33 AM
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So what is an example of witholding sex if all my examples don't fit? Including witholding sex out of spite, which I think we would agree is what "witholding sex" would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:02 AM
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"Withholding sex" means that you could have sex, but choose not to. And I'm saying there's a myriad of reasons as to why they might not want to. Maybe there is work piling up and someone just needs to focus on getting things done rather than having sex. Maybe their work schedules are staggered. Maybe they have family in town staying at the house. Maybe one of the parents died and someone needs time to mourn. Maybe one is just exhausted from a long work day. The list is endless. If sex is being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:22 AM
1

This is the part where I get to see "the evidence?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 04:01 AM
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You're the one who compared affection to carbohydrates and H20 in the first place. I'm just following the logic of the analogy. If affection is bread and water and sex is a steak dinner and you feel entitled to that steak dinner, then you also feel entitled to sex. It works well enough in the context. As you say, you can survive off bread and water, but steak is where it's at. And I would agree. However, to say that you are ENTITLED to that steak dinner is taking things a bit far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:52 AM
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The evidence Oh, really...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:43 AM
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Well why exactly is it bullshit? Let's say you're in a relationship and your partner breaks his/her leg and can't have sex. Are you still ENTITLED to sex? Can you just circumvent consent because you're ENTITLED to sex because you're in a relationship? I want to say that there is entitlement to a degree, but shit happens and at that point you need to decide as to whether you appreciate your partner as a human being as WELL as a sexual partner or PRIMARILY as a sexual partner, because shit DOES ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:39 AM
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So you feel entitled to that steak dinner. NOT getting that steak dinner is abuse. Am I getting that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:32 AM
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Someone is going to lose Oh no. Game over. He has to WAIT another day for sex. Fucking suicide trigger right there. Grow up. Getting into a monogomous relationship specifically implies that you appreciate this person beyond obvious physical motivations. Not to mention that you're putting all other dating prospects at least on hold in order to focus on this one person. That one physical motivation being delayed because gf has diarrhea or whatever isn't abuse. What if she feels gross after having …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:31 AM
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The answer is clearly because men simply are NOT more logical/less emotional than women. They both have a similar capacity to be emotional and irrational. I don't know where TRP got that idea from, but it's unbelievable that they follow that logic. I saw the term "emotional dildo" used sometime this week. TRP is the biggest emotional dildo of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 01:29 AM
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Not really. You can be talked into doing something genuinely, literally stupid when you're drunk that you wouldn't do when you're sober. Just like the Nazis were. They were all drunk on this unbased racist bullshit that was literally incorrect and look where that got them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:15 AM
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No, because manipulation removes consent. Just like alochol removes consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:07 AM
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What exactly do you mean? If there are 2 consenting, sober adults having sex, everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:01 AM
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Does that matter? It's a historical event that everyone knows the details of, and it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 04:33 AM
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Well obviously all of this is wrong in the same way AWALT is wrong. You simply cannot attribute all of this to half of the human race. 3.5 billion people are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:48 AM
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So then what Hitler did was okay. He manipulated the population to think that everything that was wrong with Germany was the doing of the Jews. And it very plainly wasn't. The Jews were a scapegoat in Hitler's conquests. The Jews didn't do anything. The masses that took Hitler's word didn't do anything. Hitler did the manipulating and set the population up to be totally okay with the innocent Jews taking the blame. That's manipulation and that's wrong. All forms of communication are just that--c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 02:07 AM
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But that's not one single cohesive group of people. Not to mention, it doesn't refer to men as a collective entity, it refers to men who take their masculinity to a toxic level and show it off in a rather brash manner. You know the type of guys I'm talking about. This "women is children" thing is another stepping stone for TRP in order to sell the idea that women can't think for themselves and are thusly inferior to men, who are strong and logical no matter much, which is a strong misinterpretat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:27 PM
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We say men are pigs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:16 PM
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Not to mention, if women are children, doesn't that make RPers pedophiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:02 PM
3

Why should I calm down when there are thousands of young men who accept this baseless bullshit as irrefutable truth? Do they have peer-reviewed studies that specifically highlight this trend? No. Does the RP readership still believe it as an inherent natural law? Yes. It's like telling a zealot that God isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:42 PM
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That isn't to make you believe me. That is to emphasize certain parts in order to HELP you believe me. See?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:19 PM
1

Hard to tell with redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:41 PM
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Of COURSE they aren't specifically gendered behaviors. Of COURSE they don't really apply more to women. Of COURSE they don't support the hypothesis that it makes them more childlike. Just sit back and THINK about it for a minute. Look at what TRPers themselves are doing and try not to label the whole charade as "childish." These are people who need sex SO much that some of them HAVE to rape people in order to fulfill that need. These are people who need sex SO much, they need a handbook that tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:40 PM
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Oh look, more of that pseudoscientific bullshit hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:17 PM
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It's a bit telling that it's hard to tell with redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:16 PM
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A preference for apologizing or a preference for "good questions?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:09 PM
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Well there you have it. It's pseudoscientific bullshit. Case closed. It's hilarious that we've uncovered an example of OP's theory in this very thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:03 AM
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But if you masturbate it's okay, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:21 AM
1

"But seriously, guys, we aren't insecure about our penises and swear that we discuss is serious truthscience!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:21 AM
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Oh shut up. How much do YOU masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:19 AM
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No, this IS the real discussion. You read his question, so answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:17 AM
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Well? Are you afraid of women having a sexuality? Do vibrators compare to you? Are you afraid of inanimate objects eclipsing you in terms of pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:11 AM
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Of course it was. Are you afraid of women masturbating and who have sexualities or just women fucking men who aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:10 AM
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Women move in serial monogamy from one man to another As long as women are gonna keep being sluts... One of these things is not like the other. Do you not see the contradiction here? Especially how you're just rebranding male slutiness as polygamy and female polygamy as slutiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 11:01 PM
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No, it's just men like you who are hypergamous and are attributing that trait to women in order to excuse your own shitty behavior. The reality is, being hypergamous is a giant gamble. yeah, you might be able to find a really, really high-value partner at some point down the line. But you might not. So what I think most people ask themselves is: "Would I like to stick with this great partner I have now or ditch him/her for something that might be better and might not?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 10:49 PM
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What about 26 year-olds? 40 year-olds? Doesn't AWALT apply to them, too? Apparently not somehow. Despite the fact that it's some kind of biological instinct, it's also ONLY prevalent in women in the West. Asian women are somehow not AWALT. Indian women are somehow not AWALT. There's no reason you can give me. They apparently just aren't. It's all pseudoscience and bullshit. It proves itself wrong because not even all 18-25 year-old women in the West are Psychopathic, baby-obsessed, hypergamous s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 10:33 PM
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I think I heard it somewhere once or twice. I'm on /r/TheBluePill enough that I'd know this website if it were used as much as OP seems to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:20 PM
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bluepill swears by this website We do? Tell me more things I don't know about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:03 PM
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Not only that, but it comes with several-stange backpedaling procedures in case we wise up and realize that there is no way in hell all 3.5 billion women are "like that." Then it's just MOST women. Well then I say that 1.75 billion women can't possibly be like that. Then it's just Western women. Then I say there's no way 2 year-old girls and 80 year-old women are like that. Then it's Western women ages 18-25. Oh. So it's not AWALT, it's immaturity clashing with growing up and a developing fronta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:41 AM
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Yep. Indian and Asian men people are welcome. Traditionalist Asian and Indian views are not. Look at the state of their social culture for the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 11:44 PM
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You're just gonna lose it when you hear this revolutionary new concept: maybe he doesn't WANT to fuck this girl and actually IS paying for her trip because he just doesn't give a shit and admires the premise of the trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:41 PM
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Except I actually see loaded questions like this all too often on here? Unless, say, Jacks1000 is a troll, this is an actual problem with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:41 AM
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what the fuck does this have to do with anything? What exactly would it prove? If there is ever a question a redpiller would ask as a font to place himself above blue pillers, this is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:04 AM
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As in they're volunteering in the military to fight for their right to vote the same way the men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:16 AM
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Perhaps, but when you talk to people who join the military, most of the answers I get at any rate are some variant of "I can't pay for college." Chances are, most people in the military don't want to make a serious career out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:16 AM
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The fact is people only join the military because they're holding affordable college education hostage. That's pretty much the biggest reason ANYONE joins. It's not that it's JUST women who aren't being included in this, it's that nobody wants to join the military anyways. You have to be desperate for a college education or else you literally can't do anything else well enough to make a career out of it. Just because the whole military culture is made for men doesn't mean women don't want to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:04 AM
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Yeah, and a bunch VOLUNTEER to be in the military. They're VOLUNTARILY throwing themselves into what is arguably the shittiest job. How many of your buddies are doing those shitty jobs? How many went to college so they could AVOID doing those shitty jobs? In fact, do you have male stripper friends? Male prostitute friends? Do you know men who are working harder than literally all women? No, you don't. And yet here you are oozing presumptuous nonsense about how privileged women are when you yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:39 AM
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Meanwhile IRL: Women are fighting to maintain their right to vote while you sit on the internet talking about how lazy women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:25 AM
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Assuming multiple women are working together though, they might design a society where they get pregnant in shifts and look after children and homesteads in shifts. You keep trying to convince me that women simply WOULDN'T survive just BECAUSE they're women and I'm trying to tell you that they would find a way just as men would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 06:42 PM
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Here's the thing about MGTOW. You could have just chosen to have gone single and not assed with the reason why. By announcing that you are going MGTOW, it sounds like a cry for help, even though that's probably not what you intend. It's last call for your dick and after that, shop closes, so better get it while you can. That's what MGTOW and sexodus sounds like to me. If you really want to go MGTOW, shut up and do it already. Quit trying to make everyone feel sorry for you guys. I DID, because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:08 PM
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There it is. You can be as strong and as fast as you want. Nothing will save you from a hail of well-placed arrows from an ambush, though. In a serious survival situation, everybody will take their strengths and weaknesses into account and base their plans off that. Men might try to rush in with spears. What happens when they fall in a shit-covered-spear trap? They die. It's ridiculous to me that these people just CAN'T imagine women surviving on their own just like men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:04 PM
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And I'm sure men aren't in the same kind of danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:02 PM
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But that's IF they get pregnant. Not to mention, didn't ancient female warriors just cut their breasts off in order to fire a bow better? A man can break a limb and be just as incapacitated if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:00 PM
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Asking about directly definitely appears to precede a come-on. If you want to avoid that, bring up an assumption of a boyfriend instead. If she voluntarily mentions that she doesn't have one, you're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:44 AM
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Oh, fatpeoplehate. The one subreddit I will consider to be MORE hateful than TRP. At least they actually own up to it, though. It depends on the reason for the weight gain and whether that weight gain actually keeps him or her from doing what he or she ordinarily does. My gf and I keep each other in check and are encouraging each other to be active in the present and future rather than shaming for a mistake or something we couldn't control in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:42 AM
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You teach a man how to survive in the wilderness and he survives. You teach a woman how to survive in the wilderness and her tits and vagina keep her from doing so? I somehow don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:37 AM
2

...Who shares soda?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:22 PM
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That's the idea. It's in the namesake. The redpillers are the last saviors of humanity. They know the truth and they're acting on it. Everyone else is just ignorant of the "real" world (that they can't tell anybody about because they can't talk about redpill because the rest of the world knows redill is shit). red and blue it's textbook black and white thinking. And somehow sexual strategy fits into that. I'm still trying to figure that out. It seems more like a side-effect than the main attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:36 PM
1

Yet many redpillers marry, want to marry, or are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:26 PM
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This is a good point, and a big one that redpillers miss when dealing with the "Asian women settle for asian men and fuck white men" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:03 PM
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Easy: We want to date what we know. I think plenty of guys are like that, too. It MIGHT be racist, but this is one topic I'm not so sure about. I think it's just about sticking to what you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:44 PM
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Why are you guys so presumptuous? About everything? Yes. Yes RPers DO get married. There are some here even who are. God you guys are inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:56 PM
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No cheat codes This. SOmehow RPers marry "marriage material" women and still get "divorce raped." I wonder why. Probably has something to do with these situations being more complicated than their thories suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 10:34 PM
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You don't. The same way you ensure that your friend doesn't rape you in the middle of the night when you pass out on his couch. You just have no way of knowing. If they DO cheat, it's not that I'm the problem, it's that they are. Most adults are adult enough to break up with someone before moving on to the next thing. No matter what you do, everything you do in a life is a giant-ass gamble. From the car you buy to the job you take (at the time you take it) to the cell phone plan you purchase to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 10:33 PM
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Oh. Oh there's a THEME now. Well I guess we can call that progress. Maybe it has something to do with RP touting the male gender as superior in literally every way. This winds up being construed with infallibility. Men can do wrong, but they're more logical, so they won't. WIMMEN, ON THE OTHER HAND... Maybe it has something to do with the very namesake of TRP. You either take the red pill, which is the undeniable, irrefutable, terrible truth or you remain plugged in with the betas and the faggot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 06:16 AM
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How many redpillers actually think like that? Enough, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 03:20 AM
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Correlation obviously doesn't infer causation, but more practice with ANYTHING will get you better at it. The thing with sex is that "good" is subjective and changes from partner to partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:22 PM
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Because the concept is shitty and generally a SWEEPING oversimplification of a complex phenomenon, response, or situation. This is a trend with TRP that I called out MONTHS ago. None of you listened, of course, even when I point out GAPING holes in the logic. They have this tendency to take commonplace situations and amplify very specific aspects of it in order to fit the narrative of amorality and liking sex just a BIT too much. The rest of the world asks "What is shit testing?" and when they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:31 PM
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And you really don't understand people. Who. The fuck. Shit tests. Nobody has time for that. Nobody has energy for that. Nobody thinks like that. Except for narcissists who want elicit a very, very specific response or reaction from you. A great chunk of most ordinary people don't do that. What do you mean "it's just natural for them?" How does that work? It's natural for me to probe someone for elaboration on a shallowly-explained concept. It's natural for me to seek multiple perspectives and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:10 PM
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And there are plenty of people who don't bother to accept reciprocation, too. It's almost like the world continues to spin and you can get your way WITHOUT needing to manipulate situations in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:37 PM
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Nobody, that's who. I feel the same way about the whole shit test thing, too. Who does that? Who has energy, time, and the thought process to employ that as a part of conversational process? Only the people who make it all about them really do things like that. Those are the only people I know who would ever maintain "orbiters", "plates", or shit test. The people I know to do things like that tend to be assholes. It's leading someone on, only assholes or people with validation insecurites lead p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:36 PM
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Source? How many SAHD's do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:32 PM
1

What are you implying? Last I checked, you can still take an escort to dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:06 AM
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Let's say prostitution is legalized. Those angry, bitter, sexless men now don't have a reason to be angry, bitter, nor sexless, because now it's available just like a bag of chips in a convenience store. Men who apparently "didn't" have access to sex before now do. The "naturals" pair up with women in the social manner and, more or less, everybody's balls are empty. The sexual marketplace then becomes completely unnecessary because sex is available like a DVD is available on Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:04 AM
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Why not? The frustrated virgins who would become TRPers suddenly wouldn't because now they would have an outlet. Now sex is available as easy as a jar of salsa in the grocery store. Then virgin shaming stops being a thing because nobody is a virgin if they can help it. If they are, then there's a genuine reason apart from "incel." Done properly, it could change things quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:00 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:59 AM
4

So what does that have to do with prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:11 AM
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I'm sure they would. And totally wouldn't partake. Look, RP is one of those movements that gives just a few too many shits about sex, and I give MANY shits about sex. Trust me, they're gonna partake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:06 AM
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What do they have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:05 AM
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You know what I think? I think we should just fucking legalize and regulate prostitution so that RPers can shut up about the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:00 AM
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I don't know, I've done and seen some shit, but even during my study abroad in South America not I nor anyone else I know were involved in violent situations. A few people got phones stolen and street harassment is more common than it is here, but even THEN the situations that are supposed to be "realistic" just never happened. Even WITH the increased risk. You could say we're lucky, but I've been lucky pretty much every day for the last 23 years. These situations just aren't as common as the "c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:14 PM
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I know they're real, but they're rare enough in most of the first world (which is where TRP is focused) that you tend to not need to worry about them. That and I don't usually attend parties with assholes. Pitbull said you might not see tomorrow, but come on, I can probably guarantee you that I will. Unless this cold I caught turns into deadly pneumonia within the next hours, I will most likely live to see tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:56 PM
1

It's pretty fascinating, but why post it here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:45 AM
5

So they're all lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:18 AM
4

And that still involves an inherent moral judgement about where TRP perceives society to be, where it once was, and where it should be. Everything they discuss loops back around to normative values and roles in society, and how absolutely shit they (and their citizens) apparently are. That's a moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:08 AM
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Are you absolutely sure about that? Is that your final answer? Because everything in TRP winds up being a moral judgement of some kind, implicitly or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:02 AM
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According to his logic, I better start buying some fucking scratch cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:17 AM
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No, I just don't have douchebag guy friends I need to prove something to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:11 AM
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The case is basically thrown out once it gets to "he said, she said." Because you can't prove anything at that point. Not due to "implied consent."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:10 AM
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Tell that to a judge. He'd call it pseudo-intellectual bullshit, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 04:10 AM
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So you don't think, for example, someone might feel pressured by their friends to have sex with someone else and might not want it? Consent is on both parties. Obtaining it can be subtle, too. The law consistently disagrees with your interpretation of consent. And I agree with the law in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:52 AM
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I agree that the definition of cheating is subjective, but there's a point at which insecurity overlaps with that subjectivity. I guess it also depends on the context, which we don't really have. Assuming her dancing with that other guy wasn't done clearly out of passive-aggressive malice, it shouldn't be so big of an issue that it equates to cheating. If it does, there could be a myriad of other problems in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:46 AM
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Yeah, it increases the risk, but life is so dynamic you don't know what risk you're increasing IF you're increasing a risk, and just telling a girl to not get blackout drunk is a very general and oft-ignored piece of advice because, again, millions of people get blackout drunk and wake up fine. Similarly, yeah locking your door is a great idea and I would give that advice to anyone, but tell that to the guy who was robbed by someone who busted his door in with an axe or sledgehammer. There's onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:28 AM
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Is there a story in the paper like that every day? Are people you know consistently in situations like that? Maybe you live in some barbaric state where people fight each other for no reason, but where I live, I've never even SEEN a real fight at a party and the last real fight I saw EVER was in 8th grade. I've never had to beat my chest to scare off some asshole. I assume I never will or rarely will. The bluepill advice is way more realistic than the "realist" advice is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:17 AM
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So men don't need to obtain consent? That's ALL on the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:14 AM
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How many times have you and everyone you have ever known gotten blackout drunk? How many times did absolutely nothing bad happen when you/they did? Yes, the probability of all risks are increased when you drink that much and it certainly isn't healthy. Risks aren't increased so much that they affect other precautions you took to avoid danger or mishap in the first place. I.E. going to a party with friends and sticking to each other like glue. Going to a club and sticking to each other like glue.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 03:06 AM
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That's pretty much what grinding is. You're rubbing your jeans on someone else's jeans. Yeah, it's sexual, but equating that to cheating is just insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:54 AM
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Not really. Every day, I'm sure millions of people get black out drunk and they wake up the next day relatively fine. Some portion of those millions experience misfortune during the times they're blackout drunk, then again the other billions who AREN'T blackout drunk do also. My point is that, yeah, you can get into a lot of shit getting blackout drunk in an unsafe environment, but there's an argument to be made whereby we can assume that in many cases, the misfortune that happens to those who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:53 AM
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Oh I was referring to the "realist" advice in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:18 AM
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How much does self-defense really help? The first thing they'll ever tell you in a self-defense class is to run away. Without actual combat experience, you might be able to get in a key hit and flee, but if you don't ACTUALLY know what you're doing and don't ACTUALLY know how, when, and where to react, you're going to get fucked up sticking around to fight. Relying on self-defense training is a bad idea. Carrying bear spray is a better idea. You can tell someone to alter their behavior, but how …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:09 AM
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Then it's not so much "realist" advice as much as it is cultural relativity advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 02:04 AM
2

Before TRP brings up attractiveness and Brad Pitt, you can be attractive and creepy at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:56 AM
3

Why is she complaining? I'll give the same answer I have for most hypothetical situations involving a person we don't know doing something: Life is dynamic, and the reason for doing that can vary from person to person. I've yet to hear my mother ask why she's not getting all the male attention she used to. In fact NO WOMAN IN THEIR 50s THAT I HAVE EVER MET HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT EVER.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:55 AM
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If my gf dances with a guy and rubs her jeans on his jeans, should I break up with her the next day and get tested? Cheating? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:51 AM
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I can get how that would feel a bit predatory though. On the other hand, you don't have to be poly to understand that your gf can dance with someone else and STILL go home with you. I'll bet RP replies to that with some mental gymnastics form of AF/BB theory though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:20 AM
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Have you experienced it? My gf doesn't like bars, so when I end up going I'm either with a group or by myself. I haven't experienced it at parties, so that's the experience I'm going off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:06 AM
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sleeping with the wrong girl can tank your reputation if the girl you slept with blabs a lot of people about your penis size. Oh no. I'm so scared. Please save me from my fucking middle school nightmare I had once. Who does that? Seriously, who the fuck does that? Yeah, it's a risk, but the bluepill advice reflects reality much more than the "reality" does. As usual, "reality" in most of those situations is "redpill insecurity." One more thing. Rape most often is perpetrated by someone a victim …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:01 AM
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What kind of parties do you go to? Seriously what the fuck? That situation seems so uncommon, it's almost a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:55 AM
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AWALT is itself a strawman argument because it hypothesizes a possibility of psychpathic nature whereby, for the most part all over the world in every shadow of every second of history ever, all women (of a specific origin and age group of course) are Bloody Mary, Margret Thatcher, and my bitch stepmom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:51 AM
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It's quite clear from reading that several-paragraph definition that AWALT is in itself a strawman argument. They are all capable of that, but we don't know under what conditions this will surface, and to what degree. This is the crux of the whole thing? This is what you guys base your entire worldview concerning female cognition on? "Maybe, maybe not but just to be safe, let's assume all women are psychopathic, narcissitic whores?" AWALT is itself a strawman argument because it hypothesizes a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:50 AM
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Really, if you have a big family, talking to all female members of that family will go to show you that they seriously are not "like that." MAYBE one or two. Maybe. There are always those who draw in drama, but it is NOT the norm in the West like TRP believes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:53 PM
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No it's not. Go to TRP and look at the newbie 100k subscriber megathread and look at how AWALT is used. It's used to indicate that All Western women are biologically hypergamous and psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:48 PM
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Most PEOPLE have a wadering eye. The irony is that I'm sure most redpill men are constantly considering other options. Of course the men are somehow immune to the implications that come with that, but women aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:46 PM
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Taking is slow tends to be the best course of action for most of these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:15 PM
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So you should have learned that correlationd does not infer causation. How on earth do you know that if A) someone (female) spring breaks in Havasu and B) goes clubbing, then C) she fucks all and ONLY the frat stars. You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:52 PM
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ATRPerALT All TRPers Are Like That All TRPers display an unhealthy obsession with sex and as such, tend to be extremely promiscuous and uncomitting. They'll do anything to get sex, including lie, cheat, and manipulate. They're totally not above having sex with someone's wife. At least, for TRP men, it tends to work. For regular men, no fuck it. We're ALL unhealhily obsessed with sex we literally cannot unfuck once we start fucking, we MUST finish REGARDLESS of circumstances. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:45 PM
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That's what I love about you guys. You scream "WRONG WRONG WRONG" and then don't say exactly what about my argument is wrong. But seriously, think of the conditions that would need to be true in the WHOLE WESTERN WORLD for AWALT to be true. God, it's hilarious to me that it's JUST Western women, too. It's fucking inconsistent, it's fucking wrong, how can you defend it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:42 PM
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Eh, JUSTIFIED? I wouldn't say they're JUSTIFIED in lying, lying itself is bad. It just doesn't surprise me that they would lie about it given how sensitive such information is and how insensitively such information tends to be treated. I am fucking sick of this "settling" narrative, though. What the fuck do you think a relationship is? What do you think a marriage is? They fucking call it SETTLING DOWN holy shit guys, is it so surprising? When you LTR you are putting all current sexual prospects…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:41 PM
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I am so sick of redpill's bullshit terminology. For every term there are about 3 correct interpretations of that term, all of which every single redpiller thinks is correct. AWALT *Not "All women" in the sense of all women globally, but in the sense that all Western women between the ages of 18-25. How does RP not see this as bullshit? How does this not come off to anyone in that sub as intellectually dishonest? Seriously? ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT? It's fucking stupid, since it doesn't even refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:31 PM
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But no, not all women are psychopathic cheaters always looking for the next best thing. Otherwise marriage would have never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:27 PM
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Many? Sure. Half? Nope. Most? Not at all. It's not enough to be a concern. if TRP is so scared of "toxic feminity" on such a level, why isn't toxic masculinity displayed in the same light? How is it that I can walk around and NOT witness hordes of men crashing into each other in giant fights? Because it's bullshit. There aren't enough people on either extreme spectrum to worry about that you can use a term like "AWALT." It just doesn't work. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:26 PM
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Statistical probablility doesn't work in these situations. That's what I'm saying. I know people who go to vegas and don't even gamble. I know people who go to clubs and don't intend to get laid, only to get drunk and dance. I know a guy who was staunchly mormon until I went to a party and saw him drinking a beer. His parents still think he's mormon. Correlation doesn not infer causation, and that's a fundamental error trp tends to make. Just because someone is on paper more likely to BE somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:21 PM
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I'm reading this. Now, someone earlier said TRP was a "quality sub." Why is that whenever I see anything a redpiller writes (for the most part), "quality" is the exact opposite of the comment/post/whatever in question? Just read your comment. Seriously? "landwhale friend?" "Dyslexia?" (it's "y", not "i", by the way.) No, tell him (or her). Why are sluts so bad? What is the horrible truth about all Wester women between the ages of 18 and 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:01 AM
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Nope, that's not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:55 AM
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I know, it's infuriating. There's about 3 different definitions for each redpiller term. None of it is based completely in reality. I gave as close to the actual definition as it actually stands. Women in Western countries between the ages of 18-25. That's not "all women." That's "all young women in Western Countries." Even THEN, At least HALF of all those women from California to Germany would have to display all those psychopathic tendencies. AWALT is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:35 AM
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I'm not going to play this game because I could choose conservative religious girl and WHAMMY, she's bipolar and sociopathic and WOOPS now I'm locked into marriage with her! I know because my dad married one. It's not because my dad married a woman, it's that he married a shitty woman. It just so happens that out of the two options you gave me, most women won't fit either to an extreme degree. How do you know someone who just so happens to like dancing with her friends and spring breaks in Havas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:31 AM
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Yeah, stupid bloopers. It's not "all women are like that," it's that "the core demographic of acne products and cosmopolitan magazine are like that!" /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:56 PM
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But TRP still says you should fuck sluts, right? Right? Because here's where it all falls apart. You're most likely to be affected by an STD when you don't know much about your partner. And obviously if you don't protect yourself. If you're both smart about things, and I sincerely hope you are, you shouldn't be affected by an STD. When are you most likely to not know much about your partner? First encounters. Over the course of the relationship, you learn a lot about your partner. After a while,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 07:20 AM
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I would say the exact same thing about redpill's obsession about anything sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:55 AM
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Do you have the same odds of bringing an STD to the table as she does? Do you have the same odds of bailing out of the realtionship due to "boredom" as she does? Are you as low value as she supposedly is? Then, sorry, but this is how life is. You don't get to say anything about how you're somehow better (or at least better relationship material) than she is because you both comitted the same crime. That is what kills me. You are in her same boat. You aren't better, you aren't worse, you both jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:54 AM
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Alright. Fair enough. So she gets dick easier. Tell me how THAT is what made you break up with her. Tell me how her CLEAR LACK OF COMITTMENT completely SHATTERED your relationship with your necessity to subtely compete with every single man your ex would pass by on the street. Was that it? Did THAT destroy your relationship? Because your anecdote still doesn't justify the slut-shaming double standard at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:35 AM
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If you framed the question compassionately, patiently, and nonthreateningly, I think at that point in the relationship she would probably tell you everything. If you've built trust between each other, I see no reason as to why it wouldn't be exercised here. If you're honest with each other, you'll get the truth from each other. If you seem like someone who can't handle delicate information delicately, then you might not get that information. At that point, it depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:58 AM
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What happens if they tell the truth? They're called sluts. Maybe. There's no real way to know because nobody can define "slut" consistently without the words "many partners." There's no specific number, no specific real criteria, it's just a term that takes the simple act of sex and poisons it with retarded preconceived notions. That's why. What happens when you're shamed about ANYTHING? Food habits, music preferences, etc. If you get shamed for it, you're lying about it. That's basic psychology…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:42 AM
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because its incredibly easy for girls to lay tons of hot guys And they wouldn't be able to do so if they didn't do their hair right, wear the right clothes, wear the right makeup, say the right things, act the right way, eat the right foods, drink the right drinks, and shave every inch of their bodies. I love how you all think girls can just snap their fingers and they get sex, let alone a relationship (slut shaming sure doesn't help with that, does it?). They have to put in a hugely accumulated…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:39 AM
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There's a clear difference between actual preferences and hard boundaries. If you PREFER not to date sluts, that means that if you had a choice between dating a slut and not, you wouldn't date the slut, but just BECAUSE she's a slut that isn't going to completely ruin any humanity she might have as a romantic interest. All that aside, if you don't want to date promiscuous women, that's fine. That's absolutely fine. I find it a bit paranoid, but whatever. Here's the thing, though. Are you, yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:28 AM
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Not only that, but the limit at which one "becomes" a slut is entirely subjective. If you fuck one guy, you aren't a slut, right? But what if it's a "certain" guy? Does that then make you a slut? It's entirely nonsensical and just breeds an environment of toxic paranoia. Remember middle school? Because that's what middle school was. What happens if you get into an LTR with that guy? Even though it's an LTR, she's still a slut, right? She's dating that guy! Then she goes off and they break up. Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:24 AM
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It depends on the people and the type of relationship they have. 25 years is a GIANT age gap. It has the potential to create problems. It doesn't mean it will, but it might. 25 IS pretty much over most of life's bumpiest bumps, so I'd definitely say it's better for a 25 year-old to date a 50 year-old than it would be for a 20 year-old to date a 50 year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 12:26 AM
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you SAY you criticize both genders but i doubt you do. You know what I love? When you guys are absolutely and unapologetically presumptuous about things. But you really don't know. Yes, I DO criticize both genders, because the shitty things people do are shared amongst genders. Trp doesnt encourage slut shaming, they advise sleeping with sluts but not entering committed relationships with them. Thats not shaming. But what's the step after that which pretty much every thread involving the word "s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 12:24 AM
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in your eyes nothing can ever be womens fault or make them look bad in any way. Incorrect. Women do things that make them look bad because they're people, and people do things that make themselves look bad. You think I just criticize the behavior of every man I know and leave the women out? No, that's not how I do things. To be fair, I just haven't seen ANYONE call someone a slut unironically since high school (except for this one douchebag I knew last year). I will not tolerate men being blamed…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:15 PM
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But that's not true. At all. I can't remember the last time a woman called another woman a slut. High school?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:55 PM
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You haven't seen many twox posts, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:08 AM
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That is complete nonsense. What does that mean they're slut shaming themselves? Are you slut shaming yourself when you read TRP? Does every guy who reads TRP slut shame himself? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:50 AM
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In a sense, being deeply into BDSM does the same thing. All redpill men are supposed to be bdsm doms in the bedroom with no wiggle room or else you literally aren't giving a woman what she wants. In that sense, redpill men themselves are creating asymmetry in relationships also. What happens when they encounter a high value woman who ISN'T into BDSM? Well now that relationship can't really be expanded upon because the two are incompatable. The reality there, just like the reality with the "cock …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:44 AM
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But she didn't. She didn't eliminate herself from the heterosexua long-term market. And if she did, then the heterosexual long-term market is full of insecure men who are afraid to compete with other men on some level, when romance is literally the opposite of competition. It's not about who made you cum best, it's about who's making you cum right now. Because it just so happens that life is variable enough, that you might find someone who could make you cum harder, but you also might not. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:10 AM
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When she's 43, she will have made many other choices that ALSO have consequences. How do we know it's the consequence of promiscuity and not the consequence of any other choice made ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:01 AM
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Well when one is scorned or shamed for doing something, they MIGHT correct themselves and do that something the "right way", or the could just stop doing that something alltogether because now it's a pain in the ass with people breathing down your neck about it every step of the way. Slut shaming, especially when encountered early on where there's literally no healthy reason for its promotion, can just discourage sex entirely when it's SUPPOSED to discouraging sex with "lots of people". By the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:12 AM
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Masturbatory habits don't seem to be much discussed here. I would like to see a sex toy thread that isn't "We're developing vagina robots, everybody! Women will be useless soon! Muahahhahaha!" I do wonder how they would respond to female sexual development regarding masturbation. Do the RPers then compare themselves to the sex toys? To which they literally can't measure up?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:08 AM
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What are you trying to say here? I'm not EQUATING sleeping around with gay acceptance, I'm saying that female homosexuality--this is completely different with male homosexuality--is treated amongst horny, straight, insecure, young men as "not real sex" and that is problematic in its own right for the homosexual community, but I am discussing how ridiculous that is when it SHOULD be accepted that homosexuality of all kinds IS real sex, along with actual male-on-female PIV sex. And it's not. Lesbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:05 AM
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What consequence? This is what kills me about this logic, what is the consequence? If she's disease-free, clear about her intent for the relationship, and child-free where that's relevant, what is this consequence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:21 AM
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What happens when you have girls who feel good about having sex with anyone? Girls who feel good about having sex with YOU! There's no ACTUAL downside here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 11:43 PM
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I don't quite think redpillers really understand the true consequences of slut shaming, or anything shaming, really. What is slut shaming supposed to do? Prevent women from wanting or desiring sex with multiple partners. According to that narrative, there's a very gendercentric twist to that, too: It doesn't count if your partners are women. Lesbian sex is something that is traditionally appreciated because it's gay sex, but with no penis, and with redpillers, the lack of penis in anything is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 11:41 PM
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I'm just showing you what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:09 AM
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I love that. WE'RE the hate group, everybody. Get on your knees and I PROMISE your family a swift death. Lol. Look. We just point out shit that your subreddit says so often. That's, at the end of the day, all we ACTUALLY do. We see the things you guys say and we comment on them. usually our comments are far more realistic than TRP's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:39 AM
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Well yes. It just so happens that "women is shit" gets construed much differently among people with empathy and frontal lobes than it does with those who just have throbbing dicks and nothing else to focus their lives on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:14 AM
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Because a big enough chunk of the community supports it enough that it believes that everyone who goes to TRP should see that content right on the front page? And maybe that community support draws you into reading it because it clearly appears to be important?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 09:26 PM
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Shame this was never answered. I want to know what the BEST thing to come out of TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 08:42 PM
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It's not the worst of TRP, it's upvoted and encouraged in the comments. This is the material that DRIVES TRP. Don't try to sidestep and say we're "picking the worst", redpillers picked it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 08:09 PM
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I wouldn't date them BECAUSE they would be a stripper/porn star/prostitute, but if we met and had a tendency to hit it off and get along, I'd give it a try like dating anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:02 AM
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Get my translation and interpretation certification...also that gym resolution everyone else makes and never follows through with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:41 PM
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You're completely missing the point and using your misunderstanding to justify slut shaming, jesus christ. Okay. We're talking two people at completely different points in their lives with different access to resources, contacts, care, and needs. This creates a rift in experience due, really, only to age. Not partner count. Not race. Not bloodline. Not career type. Age. Their experiences are WILDLY different and probably WERE wildly different their whole lives. Now these two people need to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:57 PM
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Is it so bizarre? We're talking two people at likely starkly different places in life trying to meet in the middle for an LTR. Person A is likely just starting his/her career and person B is likely just ending his/hers. That's going to create some imbalance. Yes, 25 years old isn't some fresh new person out in the world, this is someone with experience, which is why I say it might, hut it also might not, be appropriate to bring up. It depends entirely on the relationship and the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:50 PM
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This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:32 PM
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Of course it matters. Between two people living in an intimate situation, however, they're probably aware enough that it doesn't cause issues unless they have some inappropriate family members
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:31 PM
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And a 45-year old can somehow choose to "not believe" in very real social tropes that affect millions of people. I would also say that reversing the genders, you still have the same issues of one side having more life experience than the other, and I'm saying that CAN cause issues, not that it WILL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:26 PM
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Are we talking about 30 years ago or now? If you are in the West and are dating someone of another race, chances are you won't be lynched.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:23 PM
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It's kind of funny to me that this perfectly reasonable response was downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:21 PM
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Well, I'm a man. I've managed not to rape anybody so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:19 PM
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Which is why I say "may or may not." There are plenty of 25 (and 50) year olds with the mentalities of 12 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:17 PM
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Between races who are dating? Yeah, not really a power dynamic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:16 PM
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Because one has much more experience than the other in relationships, I assume, and probably much much more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:13 PM
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Because there's a power dynamic between ages that, depending on the relationship, may or may not be appropriate to bring up. No such thing exists between races, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:05 PM
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Most EVERYONE was a serf in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:04 AM
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None of that changes the fact that it was, or at least became, inherently racist. At what point were more whites enslaved than blacks? The Roman empire? That's the only time period I can think of where that even makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:33 AM
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That's like saying you don't believe in the impairment received by consuming alcohol, and how that might affect your driving. You can believe that all you want, but that won't save you once you get behind the wheel. That's like saying European slavery wasn't racist. Because you believe it wasn't racist. That doesn't change the fact that it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:24 AM
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"lol" "lol men have no control over whether they rape things, but men r so logical lol."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:08 AM
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You are a fucking misandrist. As well as a mysoginist. You are giving my gender the exuse of lack of control and that is bullshit. The normal ones? We have control. If there's an issue, I'm not just going to tell her to fuck through the tears, I'm going to fucking STOP!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:57 AM
1

Except you would still be a the bottom of the social ladder...you'd just be a girl instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:46 PM
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Just like TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:38 PM
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No, she actually thinks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:50 PM
0

This is really the best question to ask. If women have it so good, go trans, right? That way you're a woman and therefore apparently untouchable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:24 PM
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I'm SAYING it's not black and white! So why are we saying that it's just women who should stop generally getting drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:23 PM
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Look, I did the same thing. There are plenty of sports I don't play because I suck at them. Thing is, human interaction isn't a skill with a high-level entry point. We practice it all goddamn day. You know how you talk to the clerk at the grocery store who's helping you check out? That's how you talk to a woman. I'm absolutely serious. It's nothing special, or requiring special preparation or skills apart from being clean and dressing relatively alright. You talk to a woman like you talk to ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:54 PM
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So why are they having sex while drunk? That's not a women issue, that's a drunk people issue. Common sense dictates that you don't have sex with complete strangers while intoxicated beyond a reasonable level. Common sense, and the law apparently, dictates that you can't get a tattoo while intoxicated. You can't even DRIVE while intoxicated. It's common knowledge in the drug scene that you shouldn't try any new drugs while already intoxicated, especially since you don't know what kind of cross-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:47 PM
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If they're willing to fuck someone who's drunk out of her mind and CLEARLY unable to consent--let alone WALK--then, yes, there are some who are desperate and horny enough that they're willing to go that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:32 PM
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Would that help, though? If someone wants to rape someone, they'll find a way to rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:19 PM
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I would hope that they do. Some people do really stupid shit when they're drunk. I stick to my party like glue if we're going out intoxicated, so I can't imagine this happening to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:17 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:15 PM
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This is rape on a couple levels: 1) she was blackout drunk--clearly, if her friends actually had to CARRY her--2) she expressed a clear "no" which he did not comply with. That makes it rape. This case is pretty clear-cut and could have been avoided if Mark wasn't being such a douchebag. I'm honestly not sure if her not drinking would have even prevented much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:51 AM
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The reasoning is the difference. If you decided to stop pursuing women because you feel you have better goals to attend to, that's as independent as anything. The reasoning, it seems, that the sexxodus is laughable to me is that the men partaking in it clearly don't want to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:53 AM
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That's a very subjective truth. One that time and time again is proven wrong because way more than 700 million men are having sex with women/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:23 PM
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A bunch of bitter men exiting the "sexual market place", feeling smug about witholding their penises from women who don't want to fuck them anyways and shouting, "Ha! Gotcha, sluts!" I mean I have no problem with it personally, I just find it a silly and immature response to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:15 PM
3

Yet at the same time, its own principles automatically earn scorn from the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 08:53 PM
1

Isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:34 PM
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You literally don't understand sexuality. If someone tries sushi a couple times and doesn't like it, it's likely they don't want to try it again. Let's say their buddy wants to go get sushi, but he REALLY fucking hates sushi. There are gazillions of other types of foods out there that you can eat. Is sushi THAT important for THAT meal that you MUST have it, even at the cost of your friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:35 AM
1

Atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:11 AM
5

Nope. It's basically a giant moral judgement on women and responds with counter-normative values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:33 PM
2

Actually, yes. I was in the frame of the TRP mindset for a while in early college. I know how they feel. It's just that they feel so irrationally stronger about it than I ever did and ever could. Even in my worst years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:57 AM
2

And YOU are missing my point. I am simply pointing out how difficult, impractical, frightening, and dangerous it is for the average citizen to try to actively reform the government. Policy works way differently over there than it does here, and it is RIFE with corruption. You want government reform? You need to fight literal cartel lobbyists backed up by actual cartel people. That's AFTER they shut down protests with riot gear and water tanks. I don't neccessarily want a completely open border, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:13 AM
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They could just reform their own country! Holy fuck great fucking idea! Hey, so what's your plan for shutting down Guantanamo and making the CIA and all involved politicians and corporations related to the torture report accountable for their actions? I mean all you have to do is REFORM THE FUCKING COUNTRY! Well, alpha cowboy, get it done! Show me how easy it is!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:54 AM
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Fuck, do you really think these people have the patience to wait 10 years for their visas to go through or whatever while their friends and families are being tortured and murdered BY the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:30 AM
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The thing is, empathy actually ISN'T some huge, monumental, exhausting feat. It's just NOT kicking someone when they're on the ground because you yourself would prefer not to be kicked when you yourself are on the ground. That's it. You don't NEED to comment on the woman who spilled her latte. You don't need to say ANYTHING. You sure as shit don't need to lean over her should and whisper in her ear, "You deserved that, whore."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:27 PM
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Actually, yes. I was in the frame of the TRP mindset for a while in early college. I know how they feel. It's just that they feel so irrationally stronger about it than I ever did and ever could. Even in my worst years. I understand how dynamic the world is now, though, and understand that at the end of the day, they're wrong. I've TRIED explaining calmly how things work and the sometimes the most I'll get is "hurr durr of course you think that way you're a faggot." At this point, it's willful i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:10 PM
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Not unrelated. it's quite prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:34 PM
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It happens to be a higher percentage of TRPers than not. TBP exists because we literally can't ignore the hypocrisy. It's so innate at this point in TRP, that it's just there. Anybody looking from the outside who has a frontal lobe looks in and goes, "what the fuck is this?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:34 PM
4

Naturally dark triad. Incorrect. There is no gender-wide biological function that makes neither women nor men all naturally psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:44 PM
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This is just it. Men are supposed to be le logical and powerful gender, but TRP men tend to just be hypocritical and bitter. That's not logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:28 PM
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It's pretty easy. You can only empathize with your own gender. In fact, most of your comments seem to reflect a serious bitterness toward women while at the same time playing up yourself, or characteristics about yourself, or others like yourself. They get enough empathy...I'm not giving them anything more Jesus christ that DOESN'T sound narcissitic to you? You don't have to GIVE them anything, but you characerize empathy like it's this droll pain in the ass that you have to go through every day…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:03 PM
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How about single fathers? If you can have empathy for single fathers, you can have empathy for single mothers because THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE SAME SHIT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:28 PM
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See? This is why we keep saying redpillers are narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:27 PM
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If she hits you, you can't escape, and you've determined that she's going to keep attacking, then yes. The same reason I would defend myself in any other situation. Otherwise, why would I hit ANYBODY?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:08 PM
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Of course they are, but in TRP, they're blamed for things PEOPLE are responsible for, not just women. Yeah women are responsible for their actions, just like men are. The difference is the degree to which TRP believes each gender is responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:33 PM
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But you don't know if it's less or not. You don't know what they're paying. You don't know IF they're paying. It's a shitty oversimplification of tropes in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:32 PM
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You're blaming women A summary of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:26 PM
3

Holy fucking hell there is the common sense! Finally! Yes, there are no "alphas" and "betas" because plenty of the "betas" I know, myself included, are getting laid. Plenty of the "alphas" I know are considered dense assholes and nobody I know associates with them. With good reason. I like how they spread this narrative of women "settling down." Just what do they think love is? It's like that fucking Howie Mandel show where you can make a deal with the offer you have or try again and maybe get m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:24 PM
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Sure, things also worked out fairly well after the Vietnam war and boy, was THAT a shitshow of epic proportions. Things even worked out after the Holocaust, after Rwanda. Life finds a way, for sure, but you can't say humans haven't been fucking shit up for themselves since day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:57 PM
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Well of course we move, but moving is dangerous. We probably lost people moving. Yeah we moved on, clearly, but not at little cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:53 PM
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Except we then ran out of food and fur in that location. A source of food and clothing that we could rely upon was suddenly not there anymore. Sure you could refocus your efforts on other animals, but mammoths, which I think were one example, have a LOT of meat and fur that could be utilized. And at that point, it couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:43 PM
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We don't have a "welfare state." A good chunk of any taxes you pay go to the military. Welfare is a part of it, but not enough to call it the defining necessity of our tax money. How do you think the international community will react to you arming up the border like that? Do you do the same with Canada? The illegal immigrants will probably find a way to come in from the North if they can't feasibly come in from the South. We have miles and miles and miles of coastal land and a huge northern bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:30 PM
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Oh come on where did it start? Humans have been fucking shit up for themselves since the beginning. We developed hunting techniques so advanced that we drove species to extinction. Nothing human beings do "works." It only keeps us going for a little while longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:25 PM
1

And don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:22 PM
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What the fuck? There are times you can sound certain and times you really, really can't. "Male tone" just sounds like "asshole tone."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:22 PM
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Confidence in what? That you know what you're talking about? You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:37 AM
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It's not even about feels. It's about practicality. If your neighbor has an asshole kid and he breaks into your house you could shoot him, but you could also talk to his parents about his behavior. Obviously, you would talk to the parents first rather than just shooting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:05 AM
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Alright, what would your policy look like? How EXACTLY do you keep millions of desperate, starving, scared, poor, uneducated individual human beings from getting into the country one way or another?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:04 AM
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Because that's not a choice. Clearly. Shit in Mexico is bad and unstable, so the people are going to go somewhere that's stable. That's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 01:00 AM
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You don't get it, do you? They don't care. Their family members are being tortured and killed because we have a demand for drugs here in the states (some superior culture WE have). They just want to get out at any cost, any way they can. Deterrence does NOTHING here for the big picture. drugs are smuggled and used into prison, what makes you think we can really keep out people, reliably no less, who just want to get away from danger to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:38 PM
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LAND MINES. Oh God I'm dying of laughter. Fucking land mines to keep out the uneducated, desperate masses. Oh jesus you know what, it would just be easier to commit genocide against everyone who isn't us so we just don't have to worry about that shit. That way there's ONLY America. Oh god, land mines. I'm just picturing this 14 year old kid smuggling his 80 year-old grandma across the Rio Grande and then they hit the shore, they climb up all exhausted lying on the sandy road and shit. Then they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:12 PM
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Well sorry, those are the options. That's what happens. Either we stabilize Mexico and make it a place where Mexicans actually feel safe living or we keep taking in uneducated, desperate people. We definitely have the means to do that, we support an omniscient military and spend millions lobbying for bullshit. We absolutely CAN fix their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:01 PM
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Except you should be caring at least about your neighbor's children too. Mexico is in the shit right now. We are getting a lot of immigrants that can't even read, let alone use a computer. We're getting a lot of uneducated folk from ruined countries that want a better life. So either we make life better for them in their own country or we need to do it when they arrive. We're pretty shitty at both, and it would help really stabilize the world if we could do it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 10:52 PM
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I'm bothered less by its existence and more by its insistence. I would be absolutely fine with TRP existing if in the side bar it said something like, "Remember that your experiences, goals, desires, capabilities, and ideas are all relative and nothing here is set in stone. It's not for everyone." Instead, TRP is all, "We are the fucking SHIT! All you BPers are literally living your lives incorrectly and you're being beta bucked despite the fact that you're happy with the regular sex you're havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:41 PM
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There are how many millions of children on this earth already? We've got orphans, children in shitty situations, children overseas, children everywhere. If a few billion women don't want to have children, fine. I mean we can hardly provide jobs for the population we HAVE. Who's to say letting the population decline isn't smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:10 PM
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Yyyyyyyep.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:07 PM
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But the thing is, it might! There seriously might be some old lady in China who divorced her husband so that she can experience menopause with some Hong King billionare. It also might not, though. That's the point. The world is so variable that you can't say "AWALT." You might as well just call it "Schrodinger's Slut." That seems to be how AWALT is used anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:53 PM
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Then it's not "All" women, or even "most" women. It's the demographic for Cosmopolitan fucking magazine. It's the demographic for fucking acne care products. Marketers sit around and they typecast this demographic and do you know what they DON'T say? "Hey Jerry, can you bring in a textbook and find me the demographic information for population AWALT? We're gonna hit it big by following this sweeping generalization that classifies this demographic as childish psychopaths! Who we task with looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:30 PM
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You sure can. So much so that it doesn't make sense. No shit, you could safely point out any random half of the global female population and assume they have reproductive systems. What you CAN'T do is point out any random half of the global female population, ages 18-80 and from there extrapolate that every single one of that half of the female global population ONLY fucks one or all of 700 million men (the top 20%, I belive), are all going out every Friday night and participating in a gangbang …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:11 PM
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Because it's incorrect. 1.75 billion women are not "like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:20 PM
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And then get upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:18 PM
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Yes. I do. So do RPers. A lot. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:12 PM
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Because there's a whole lotta intrinsic value judgements in RP. Some are even explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 09:26 PM
2

The "real thing?" Poor replica? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 08:03 PM
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Someone below you says this is a worthless post. No, this is a goldmine. This is exactly why traditional masculinity is bullshit. Sometimes you just have shit you want to be resolved, but can't resolve it. Sometimes the best response is just to discuss it. Your guy friends aren't your friends if they can't even handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:42 AM
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No wonder you hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:50 AM
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We can say from the very beginning that the relationship sure was doomed, judging by Amit's reaction, but the brother had no place facilitating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:15 AM
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You seriously can't see the parallels? "I'm going to tell my cousin's boyfriend that my cousin had boyfriends in the past. Because she had boyfriend's in the past, OBVIOUSLY their relationship is doomed. Might as well just kill that relationship before everybody gets too invested. Might as well just spread that gossip to the family, too, so that we all hate her! I'm such a caring cousin!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 01:16 AM
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But that reasoning is disastrous. "When someone is having a shitty time in life, it's best to just shoot them now because it might stay shitty for the rest of his life."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:30 PM
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You can say what you want about Nikki's relationship, but OP's brother had no place sabotaging what could have been a really great relationship. That he knew nothing about. We simply don't know now because the damage is done over something seriously asinine and presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:22 PM
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I love that "who is going to pay for it" is the big conservative retort. I'm going to pay for it, you're going to pay for it, we're all going to pay for it. because one way or another, we're GOING to pay for it. Look at the American South and how conservative that area is. It's NOT an area I'd like my kids growing up. Religious zealot-ism and exclusionary policies, shitty education system, archaic "bootstraps" mentality, etc. Then there's the fact that our tax money ALREADY goes to shit most wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:25 PM
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Honestly, it's a bit telling that the social sciences would have a "liberal bias" ...because the way to move forward socially is via application of liberal theories. Wanna stop drug crime? Legalize drugs and push out the cartels! Wanna stop drug addiction? Legalize drugs and provide addiction and education clinics! Wanna stop poverty? Pay your fucking workers more! Upgrade our welfare! Upgrade our education system! All this shit that conservatives don't fucking care about is pretty much necessar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:45 AM
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If I have a gf, then no. Absolutely not. If not, then maybe. It depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:30 PM
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Why is this even a question? Some people just want to get married, just like how some people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:29 PM
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That's all it's supposed to do? Increases your chances? I could increase my chances by taking on a new hobby. Learning three new languages. Just having shit to talk about that's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:02 PM
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Okay, so you're telling me that any time I interact with a woman, I am being subject unknowingly to some test--this is every woman by the way--that determines apparently whether I get to have sex with her. So what happens that I don't know what shit tests are, interact with women, and get laid regardless? Shit tests are bullshit. Nobody has the energy to come up with some bullshit job interview double-blind question in order to determine whether one is a worthy mate. They just fucking talk to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:59 PM
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You know, the girls TRP actively looks for to confirm their views on women. How else could they even fucking say "AWALT?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:55 PM
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How many approaches do you make in a night before you're successful? Maybe sometimes it's one and done, but surely there are nights when you don't find a girl until much later or maybe even not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:53 PM
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Because they'll go through hiccups and rejections before they get to a woman who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:51 PM
2

Alright how about 50%. 1.75 billion women as "like that." Impossible. You've never seen 1.75 billion of anything, outside of maybe particles. And leaves on tress maybe? Or grains of dirt? Maybe? In any case, you've never seen 1.75 billion women and the women out there in that number are all individual and dynamic enough that most won't fit the stereotypes you fling at them. Remember, this is girls 18-80 that ALL have this same temperament. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:50 PM
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It's not even that it's offensive, it's literally incorrect. Every. Single. Woman. On. Earth would need to display "AWALT" behaviors. And they don't. We're talking 3.5 billion women, there's enough deviation between individual people that you can't, with any certainty at all, make the claim "AWALT."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:48 PM
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Naturals in what? Creating needless conflict because he can't take a hint?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:29 AM
2

So what are the consequences of not "fighting that battle?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:28 AM
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Interesting. Sure, many of those could be genuine shit tests, but I feel like in most contexts, anybody saying most of those phrases might mean what they say. For example, "I have a boyfriend" might be a shit test in that she just doesn't to deal with whoever she's telling that to or she might ACTUALLY have a boyfriend. While I would prefer just to be told the honest truth, I understand why a woman might need to say that. Passing such phrases off as "shit tests" once again cuts down on the under…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:24 AM
5

And what are the consequences of my "ignorant failure?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:17 AM
4

So, what is a shit test?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:13 AM
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It's worked out fine. If you really want to restructure your entire being around JUST banging three different women each week, be my guest. I have some priorities to attend to. I get laid at the very least twice per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:17 PM
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I know a couple. The rest don't give a shit. The "post-wall" women I know don't give a shit, even if they used to. Men close to their age still date them. They aren't trying to pull hb10 college sophomore football players. You certainly can't attribute that behavior to half the global female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 02:47 AM
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Except "how it is" is that after college, you have a very slim chance of finding a chaste girl outside of conservative areas of the US. Whoever you fuck, they've fucked someone else before you. THAT'S how it is. For men, women, everyone. It just so happens that some of those people are shitty and some of those people are great, so why focus your analytic energies on promiscuity when you can focus it on presence or absence of heavy drug use or political standpoints?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:48 AM
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In order for a generalization to relevant, whatever is being generalized would have to account for at least half the population. 1.75 billion women are not "like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:09 AM
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So then promiscuity is either a bad thing for both genders or it isn't an issue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:03 AM
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This is the psuedoscientific bullshit I'm talking about. The point in a woman's life where her ego and self-assessed view of her sexual market value exceed her actual sexual market value This doesn't fucking mean anything. This is absolutely subjectve and in no way reliably measurable. I know a flight attendant in her 50s who will still have one night stands in a city she's staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:01 AM
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But the concerns about STD's and a noncomitting promiscuous partner are concerns that women have, too. You can't just excuse that with "well our sexualities are different." If there is an objectively higher chance for men to contract STI's from promiscuous women, then there is also an objectively higher chance for women to contract STI's from promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:53 AM
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What about the STD's and notcomittal tendencies that come with promiscuity? Does that, or does that not, apply to men also?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:49 AM
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What are you pointing out? What exactly are you pointing out? You aren't helping anybody by being insufferable and insisting that I am missing the point of your unbased social construct, and not showing me exactly what I am misinterpreting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:48 AM
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Alright, where did I go wrong? It's not a wall, it's entropy, what am I misinterpreting? All things are affected by entropy, entropy affects attractiveness, entropy is also a slow burn rather than an immediate combustion. Wemon don't just combust into ugly at age 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:42 AM
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Well, men can have all those nice STD's and issues with commitment that promiscuous women have, right? Those things that "prudent men" are scared of? Women are scared of those, too. So what exactly immunizes men from having their promiscuity outlined as a bad thing where women are vulnerable to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:12 PM
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you interpret things as hard and fast absolutes in order to pretend they're bullshit. Well, it is called the WALL. How else am I supposed to interpret it? 26: Emma Watson. 27: Sigourney Weaver. It doesn't work like that, it's not a wall, it's entropy. We ALL get physically less attractive the older we get. Men, women, cats, trees, buildings, everything! On the other hand, there ARE 30 year old babes out there. I don't think anyone is ever going to say Lisa Ann, Jennifer Anniston, and Cameron Dia…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:08 PM
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Fantasy=/=reality. \People can be into rape play, but not into actually being forced to have sex with someone they don't really want to. Rape play is just that: play. Imagine going to see a production of Julius Ceaser. You know what to expect and you can enjoy the nuances of Ceaser's muder there and all the poetry and shit behind it. Let's change something up now. Imagine that instead of Ceaser acting like he's being killed, imagine that the actors are using real knives and the actor that plays …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:45 PM
0

Is that what happened for you? Are you settling for your husband? Is your husband settling for you? Why would that even be a question to ask yourself? If you genuinely love each other to the point where you're getting married and want a future with that person, it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:33 PM
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Because it's bullshit. There is no wall, the terrain just gets steeper and rougher as you get older. Attractiveness doesn't just STOP at 27 or whatever. You might gain weight, wrinkles, and weird medical issues, but you still look like you. If all it takes to lose attraction to someone is passing from age 26 to 27, that is one shallow motherfucker. This applies to men, too. The laws of entropy apply to all things. Men are not on an escalator and women do not hit a wall. We're all on the same ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:31 PM
10

So let's turn this around then. What about promiscuous men? They hold the same risks as promiscuous human beings, right? So are they unmarriageable also? If it goes both ways, fine. If not, this is just insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:12 PM
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What, they're just WORSE pilots? It doesn't work like that. Nothing works like that. How does that work? Where is the biological difference that just makes women WORSE pilots? I know plenty of female math geniuses and plenty of men who suck with math. The world is way more dynamic and variable than you somehow come to believe that it is. Clearly you haven't seen an angry mother if you think women can't be threatening and commanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:55 PM
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You can still be a part of the military and never see a day in combat. We can have female engineers, office workers, intelligence officers, mechanics, pilots, drivers, analysts, strategists, medics, drill sergeants, maintenance staff, construction crew, tank crew, and practically anything that won't involve whatever physical disadvantages women might have being a part of infantry. Also, remember that we have plenty of women volunteering in our armed forces and plenty of men who aren't, so you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:09 PM
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Where does disliking promiscuity come from? An insecurity about having to compete, or an insecurity about her MAYBE having an STD, or an insecurity about her being noncommittal. I mean if you yourself perceive your own promiscuity in the same light, then I have no problems, just don't excuse yourself from your own perceived problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:04 PM
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it's not like it's something that ever comes up or really crosses my mind. This is the key. It's not something that affects your everyday life and at the end of the day, you chose your husband. You didn't choose any of the other men you'd been with. That counts for something big.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:59 PM
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None. Believe it or not, we can be careful too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:51 PM
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We all would, and frankly, we haven't used it for 40 years, so we may as well NOT have one. At the end of the day, it's a bit disturbing to me just how much RPers want to watch women DIE.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 03:42 AM
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Yep. And dying in a war I have no intention of fighting is about as probable as dying by lightning at this point. Yeah, it's possible, but think of the other conditions that would need to be true in order for the draft to even come back as a primary way of obtaining soldiers. Once that's true, I'd still have to wind up being selected. Even then, there's always Canada. Even if I went to war, I'd still have to be a part of those involved in the action, which isn't a gauruntee, though there's a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 03:21 AM
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So does my suggestion hold any water from your experience? Also, we have to remember that we haven't used the draft since the Cold War.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:30 AM
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Yes, but one question: Are you currently serving or have you served in the military before? If not, are you ever going to? If not, then you must realize that there are women who already are and while you harp on about social responsibility of women being subject to the draft just like men, you yourself aren't volunteering while there are women who ARE. Now to my point: Everyone SHOULD be subject to the draft, but where does it end? At some point we need a significant portion of our generation at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 01:56 AM
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What logic is this? There's a whole lot of emotion for all that "logic".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 01:46 AM
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That sounds so disingenuous. If you're going to try to pick up girls at some activity, you should at least enjoy the activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 04:38 PM
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Only because both movements strove to promote common decency for two differently disenfranchised groups of people. Even if it still qualifies as a false equivalency after that explanation, my point being that neither of those movements are "fringe left wing" movements, but rather groups that grant basic rights still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 04:30 PM
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Yes, as well as South African Apartheid because those are all movements that promoted COMMON FUCKING DECENCY! That does not qualify as "fringe left wing"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 05:28 AM
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That movement that gave women suffrage when nobody else was looking out for their interests? Is a "fringe" left-wing ideology? I suppose civil rights was a "fringe" left-wing ideology too? How about ending apartheid? How about wanting a higher minimum wage? Or even having the right to work 40 hours/week for a minimum wage to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 03:57 AM
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Oh really, I thought TRP called that shit testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 12:49 AM
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Well at some point a conversation needs to happen between you and the potential partner as to what your physical needs are. If they aren't being met and you aren't happy, it is best to move on, sure. Having a date on Friday and not getting any while having to wait until the next Friday date doesn't mean you need to emotionally push her to put out RIGHT NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 12:49 AM
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It's not something you accidentally do If you're ignorant, oblivious, or self-centered enough, it absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 07:16 PM
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THANK YOU FOR THIS, JESUS CHRIST! This is not the most difficult thing to understand! Everyone has the potential to be a manipulative douchebag and they're often found in the corners you least expect them to be in. They paint what it is literally an average LTR in the modern world as encountering a unicorn. All that says to me is that they've been dating the wrong women, and that's no fault of their own, that's just shit humanity goes through. You get married, people change. You stay in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 06:41 PM
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Obviously I'd never date a murderer. I'd never date someone who has a history of beating their dog. I'd never date someone who slashed someone's tires out of vindicitive rage. Yeah, history matters where history MATTERS. Someone has a history of violent outbursts yet claims to be done with that? Yeah, I would skip entirely. What we're talking about is someone having sex a lot because she likes sex. You know what, you can have that hard line boundary. You just better not be a promiscuous man your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 12:01 AM
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Well, is it a preference or a hard line boundary? PREFERRING a tall man? Okay, fine. That means she meets a shorter guy she likes, she notes he's not tall, but nobody's perfect. She dates him anyways. That's fine. I extend the same concept to promiscuity. You prefer NOT to date promiscuous women? Okay, that's fine. But let's say you hit it off with a really nice, gorgeous, intelligent girl. You have a conversation with her and she had enough partners to be considered promiscuous. Do you dump her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 10:06 PM
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And that's Okay! The difference between TBP and TRP is that we can fucking WAIT! We don't NEEED to have sex IMMEDIATELY. We can fucking WAIT a week if we need to. Sex isn't SUCH a huge part of our lives that we need to maliciously manipulate someone in order to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:46 PM
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You have to be active about it. You don't necessarily need to be redpill/seduction/PUA aggressive, but you do need to put some kind of effort into steering the conversation in the direction of romantic interests. When you do, just talk like you're talking about anything else. It doesn't need to be a big deal and just keeps everybody comfortable and relaxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 04:40 PM
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So can you go tell this to /u/homo_homini_lupus above me and prove her wrong? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:02 PM
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ITT: Paranoia concerning woman hanging out with men without intention of sexual persuit...because apparently they're actually in sexual pursuit. No matter what they say. Look, your friends all sound like assholes and you need new friends. I don't think about a girl being in a group of guys...it's just a girl hanging out with a bunch of guys, it doesn't need to be a big deal. TRP makes it an uneccesarily huge deal to the point of it being a red flag...this is a human being hanging out with other …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:33 PM
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Urbanization. With urbanization comes anonymity and the ability to do away with tradition because nobody's watching, or even caring, in a large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:06 PM
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Her point was that looks for women matter. My point was that RP says that any woman can get men, or at the very least have a much easier time doing so. They almost never use their pet caveat Michael Most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:04 PM
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From thus stems the entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 04:25 PM
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Visit /r/raisedbynarcissists. Countering clear abuse with more abuse will never change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:18 AM
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You could, I suppose. But does his source say that a good chunk of those men who aren't paying are going to prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 04:25 AM
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Yet I keep hearing the opposite: "ANY girl can get ANY guy so EASILY"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:40 PM
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Oooooo if we can have a source for that, we're going to bust a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:32 PM
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Well not everyone follows suit with me. There are plenty of straight, monogamous BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:38 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:19 AM
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You're allowed to be angry. I was angry about it when I was in that position. What's disturbing is how TRP HANDLES that anger. Just read the recent thread on TRP regarding black knighting for a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:43 AM
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Well there's a clear element of bitterness in TRP, so if it's not from dysfunctional/broken families it's from dysfunctional/broken relationships and TRP happened to be the therapy they chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:22 PM
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Even if the cheated didn't prove his value properly, the cheater could have left the relationship in the first place. Like a sensible adult. This mindset just passes cheating off exused by lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 06:57 PM
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The thing about the "red pill ideal wife" is that it completely adheres to traditional Western media standards regarding the "ideal wife". Definitely a large percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 06:54 PM
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And all of those are very complex ideas oversimplified by blaming it all on a GENDER.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 05:50 AM
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Right. Forgot about that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:39 AM
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The most logical solution to be sure. But what if one or both parties is turned off by recent poopscapades?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:38 AM
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I'm probably going to receive the response "never say no WITHIN REASON" but I'm just curious as to how far "reason" extends. At least to poop, I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:36 AM
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Yep. They might say it's because "women do it all the time, so we're just using the same tactics" like it makes it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:34 AM
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I mean, sometimes you have poop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:33 AM
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Just a few more questions in this vein, RPW: What if you have to poop? Do you go poop first? Are you allowed to go poop first? After you go poop first, is he still going to want it? Are you going to be in trouble later for inconveniently needing to poop right before he wanted to have sex? If he doesn't let you go poop, what happens if you don't hold it in? I just thought of this and now my mind is running wild as to the possible situations whereby you genuinely might NOT want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:30 AM
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Bargaining chip Ironically, they throw that stereotype onto OUR relationships when they're the ones who seem like they need to deal with it the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:27 AM
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What if you had to poop at the time, but your SO still wanted it? Do you hold in the poop?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:27 AM
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you would probably also end up seeing a lot of men repeating the same bad behaviours that women would be guilty of as well. We are so close to the point, I can smell it's sweet, musky stench. The point is right there, you can grab out and touch it. The two points are parallel, they're sitting right next to each other. Oh man this is exciting. The point is: Both men and women exhibit those behaviors. Period. End Transmission. That's it. Why the fuck are you targeting women (of which relatively fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:23 AM
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Then fuck men! For god's sake, if women are so fucking dangerous, then fuck men! Supposedly, they AREN'T as manipulative as scary as women are! In fact, please do, so you can come back and confirm that men are literally the better gender. If, by great chance, you can't confirm that men are the objectively better and less dangerous gender, then TRP holds no water in its stance of AWALT. Or even MWALT (Most Women etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 12:55 AM
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Except I'm not even talking just the United States. I'm talking WORLDWIDE. What you posit is impossible and action would have been taken if it were true. You speak as if every single man (remember, this is 3.5 BILLION) between the age of 18 and 25 is SO pussy-whipped that it completely clouds our judgement. That doesn't sound like le powerful and logical gender of men, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:25 PM
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Because, put simply, the red pill panders to sexual paranoia experienced by men younger than 30, or made bitter by a terrible past relationship of some sort and teaches dark triad self-obsession to combat the paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:30 PM
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Just think about the numbers and then imagine what the world would ACTUALLY be like if it were like that. 3.5 BILLION women are supposed to be "like that?" We'd have seen a dangerous spike in malicious mental health cases the world over since the mid 1800s (women's suffrage) and men would have banded together as an institution to find another way to continue the species without women, since they would all, throughout history, have been recorded as serious potential dangers to men akin to serial …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:28 PM
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Maybe I'm seriously just THAT naive about the world, but what possible context could justify the phrase "Nope, I really meant ALL women are awful because ALL women will pull this shit- if you let them. I think "Evil" might be a bit strong but...AWALT"? I mean, just read that fucking quote. It doesn't matter if "pull this shit" refers to "vacuums after the neighbors are asleep", it's an incorrect, pandering assumption for like-minded individuals to circle jerk over. He doesn't realize that he's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:16 PM
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