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Do you not recognize the defensiveness in your own answer? Who cares if you've gotten a job without an interview, how do you not understand such a simple analogy. The connection is pretty obvious that you advertised one of your least desirable features as one of your most prominent defining features. You've communicated whether you understand this or not that you're undesirable and lacking social skills. THAT is what's unattractive. You don't have to lie when you are selling something. Just lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 07:06 PM
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Huh? That was MY point. wtknight didn't make one other than to challenge my assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:26 PM
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Because he's stupid or has few options. It's pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 11:17 PM
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Having encountered my fair share I'd say it's because gold diggers are typically short sighted and don't want to put in the hard work to get rich. A gold digger I dated in the past would pretty much just expect money to be there for her to use. She was impulsive and a bad decision maker, especially long term decisions. My SO puts the work in and contributes as much as humanly possible. She understands that building wealth takes hard work and she's along for the ride, whereas the gold digger is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:42 PM
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Mmhmm, I'm sure. And also, cigarettes make you cool. If you're not one of the cool kids, you're nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 05:39 PM
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While I agree that social media can be a tool to enhance your Arsenal, most people are unable to use it effectively. Your argument really boils down to saying that smoking cigarettes will make you look cool just don't get addicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 04:18 PM
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This is what I wonder, why the need for victim points? I live in one of the safest places in the country. I've been physically assaulted numerous times. Often by women. They seem to think it's totally okay to hit a man because of what's in between their legs. I've been sexually assaulted numerous times, often by women. At the end of the day, there's been a couple of close calls but I'm just happy that nothing truly bad ever came of that. This type of shit happens to everyone, why everyone on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 03:18 AM
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I equated nothing to nothing. Just an anecdote of physically disgusting friend who has no idea what the red pill is. He thinks he's successful because he's such a great communicator. In reality he's textbook redpill in behavior I have no idea how that you came to the conclusion you did
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 01:32 AM
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Sure. That's because there is no actual blue pill in practice. You're either aware of your actions or not, hence why they "lean" red. You could not be a doormat, have a successful relationship, and think it's because you're really nice. I have friends like that and their marriage advice will usually amount to, "did you try talking to her?" They have no clue that they are stubborn disgusting people who's relationship works for very different reasons than being a good communicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 10:30 PM
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This is too true. Almost every actually happy marriage that I know of leans much more red than blue. Husband's that offer platitudes, kindness, and lovey dovey emotionality are completely trumped by ones that offer results, structure, and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:44 PM
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Haha I was just thinking about this literally 10 minutes ago. Short answer is no, it doesn't actually work. Long answer: the rejected woman in this case is confusing cause and effect. While not being a discerning person and demonstrating risky behavior can be a turnoff, not holding off is not necessarily making him think she is a lesser quality partner. On the contrary, a guy will be willing to tolerate holding off longer for who he believes is a higher quality partner but would always prefer se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 02:33 AM
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Most of these terms are more descriptive from a utility standpoint. "Spinning plates" is actually one of the better terms I've ever heard of for what it is. It's unique, it's different, and the name catches on in a way that even if you hate it, the idea spreads. Have you ever seen plate spinning? They get them up on the sticks and run around putting a little maintenance spin on the ones that need it. Some of them wobble and fall off, while others are getting up and running. You can only be in on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:13 PM
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It's also a phenomenon that's way overrepresented on Reddit. Pretty much everybody I've ever met who follows kpop IRL looks like they have a massive vitamin d deficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:25 PM
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You'd be surprised. Similarly miserable people with crippling mental health issues who'd rather suffer with company than learn the mental skillset necessary to improve their lives. On the surface, the content is different but it's the same, miserable, mentally ill loner types who hate themselves and blame the world for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:57 PM
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I mean, not saying you can't. It's just much more work and if I have the options, why go with the difficult one? I'm going to pick the more pleasant and agreeable 10/10 times
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:54 PM
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I'm going to take a different approach to this. Sure, I have witnessed countless female led relationships where the man is almost universally despised or talked about with disgust. On the other hand, I don't think it's necessarily that women universally find submissive men unattractive. It's more that dominant women are much less likely to attract a guy that checks all the boxes. Those dudes have options. They want agreeable and easy women. The ones who want to run the show..... Eh, no thanks I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:58 PM
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Yup. Half the girls I've dated claim they have this sixth sense that makes them a good judge of character. In reality it's just random stabs in the dark based on confirmation bias. If they're distrustful of everyone they meet at first, eventually they'll be right about someone and say, "See? It was my women's intuition" The real women's intuition is completely ignoring every time they've been wrong about something to feel like they can sense the truth. On the other hand you have simply observing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 11:25 AM
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On the contrary, it's because I am happy on my own that it doesn't matter. My life is pretty good because I work hard, not because there's a woman in my life. A woman leaving would hardly destroy it. Besides, demographics and Life choices play a massive role in divorce statistics. On top of that a minimal amount of work on yourself will put you ahead of most. You can trust but have your eyes open. Divorce rates are honestly high because humans are generally stupid. And that includes the so-calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 02:06 PM
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Aside from the fact that approaching a stranger requires a certain set of social skills that women are often lacking, the actual reason is simply that the type of woman that feels the need to approach is typically less attractive. Most women who are somewhat attractive don't need to do this ever as there is already an abundance of suitors. The initiator tends to go for the upper boundaries of what they believe is attainable for them. Assuming they are somewhat close in SMV, if the man is being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 12:40 PM
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I'm actually legally set up very favorably for divorce if it ever comes to that. Even so, big deal, life goes on. I've already gone through a separation and honestly done several far more challenging things. If I separate, I'm already financially set, legally well protected, and have plenty of pussy waiting in line. Not hard to land on your feet when you've got your shit together. I swear you people are so afraid of the earth revolving around the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 12:35 PM
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All decisions have inherent risk and risk management is ineffective. Therefore we shouldn't make any decisions at all! Why buy a house if someone could break into it? Why get in my car if I might get hit by a drunk driver? Why talk to strangers when they might not like me? Shit, might as well just take it to the logical conclusion that life is pointless! Why live when you're going to die?! Why enrich ourselves when something we aqcuire might be taken? Might as well never enrich ourselves. This h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:20 PM
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I don't need to tell myself that And yet, you did. Life is hard bud. Why play the game smarter like any mildly successful person would when you can just quit? Sure is easier!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:18 PM
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lol k bud keep telling yourself that. Have a good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:30 PM
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This is a chump move for so many reasons. Firstly, as someone in a high-paying career, the first thing you learn is never lead with your money. As someone with some dough, you have a target on your back. Women who highly value excessive amounts of money are MUCH more likely to seek you out. You think they aren't good at hiding the fact that they're gold diggers? Most women are much better manipulators than you will ever be. By leading with your money, you are holding up a sign that says, "Gold d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:28 PM
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I would agree with this. PPD and TRP are both stale, hence why I don't post often or come around a lot. My personal life is a lot more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:10 PM
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You say that like it's a bad thing. If a test is unfair, that's every reason not to take it. Because it is a bad thing. MGTOW, generally speaking, teaches people to run from adversity. You think that dating is the only thing in life that's unfair? The notion of fairness is a fairytale. If you don't want to deal with women, that's fine. But harping about fairness and your own struggles with masculinity demonstrate that MGTOW has taught you very little in the ways of personal improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:08 PM
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The whole notion of redpill is to work on yourself and stop being a whiny bitch. MGTOW tends to be those who could never pass the test in the first place so instead of studying harder and doing well, they just bitch about the test being unfair and refuse to take it. I find very few who actually walk the walk in that area of the manosphere. It seems they're mostly frameless betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:25 AM
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How so? If you have to lie to get people to like you, you're simply ignoring your personal weaknesses. These are the type of guys that end up on r/exredpill because they found their lives to be empty and exhausting. It's huffing and puffing and sticking your chest out to try and take shortcuts in life. Not impressive OR easier in the long run than being the real deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:17 AM
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If you improve yourself enough, you don't need to lie and cheat to get women into bed. Honestly, its way easier than you think to be swimming in women, just have to cross a certain bar that isn't actually that high. That's how you know that alphamalestrategies guy is a big joke. Can't get a girl to sleep with him unless he lies. Anyone can fake it, much harder to be the real deal (and yet not that hard at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 01:32 AM
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The simple truth is that they just tend to be uglier and more demanding on average. They often have their nose in the air like you should be impressed they have a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 09:03 PM
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If you ask me the real gold is in the comments. The writer is extremely defensive and it is revealed that she's actually had so many partners that she lost count after 100, a long time ago and believes the true number is closer to 500. She licks ass and sucks dick a few times a week, attends orgies, and has now decided as she's gotten older the true value of a LTR so wants to settle down. She's a feminist cat lady with a different guy every week who doesn't need a man and just fucks them because…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/19 01:34 PM
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If you ask me the real gold is in the comments. The writer is extremely defensive and it is revealed that she's actually had so many partners that she lost count after 100, a long time ago and believes the true number is closer to 500. She licks ass and sucks dick a few times a week, attends orgies, and has now decided as she's gotten older the true value of a LTR so wants to settle down. She's a feminist cat lady with a different guy every week who doesn't need a man and just fucks them because…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/19 01:26 PM
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There is always a psychological component to pain. If you're fainting from a short fast it's either medical or psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 03:38 PM
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Obviously not if you can't go a few hours without severe hypoglycemia. You could be diabetic or have something else going on. Or, more often than not, I find it's something in their head. A large percentage of pain is psychological. Either way you have work to do and it sounds like it's not diet related.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:02 PM
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So you had a hypoglycemic episode after not eating for a few hours? Definitely something going on under the hood. The human body is designed specifically not to do this. Go see a doctor and get a work up. Get your blood work done and have your hormones tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:25 PM
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It's far harder to get into shape than it is to stay in shape.people who are unhealthy always think that the healthy people must have some kind of leg up against them or a cheat or something along those lines. In reality it's just that that 1200 calorie diet is meaningless if the consistency isn't there or your basal metabolic rate is low. Also 1200 calories is hardly starving yourself. You can easily go through an entire day without eating and be completely fine. We are just so accustomed to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:08 PM
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Any relationship I've ever been in was with a size 0-2 who was into eating well and exercise. But the qualifiers you put on are silly. They frequently cheated on their diet, were fun at dinners, rarely too picky with their meals, and had plenty of hobbies. If you generally eat right, you can cheat when you want and still lose weight and get in shape. Most people just lack any real discipline and I just dated ones with a little more. Skinny women are not automatically vapid. I promise you most fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:16 AM
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I used to spend a lot of time on r/askmen back in the day. That question was asked so many times that its almost implied that the question is "besides being hot, what else is important" That part is obvious and everyone knows that. Doesn't need to be stated every time. Plus there is some selection bias where people upvote the answers that sound nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:04 PM
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Likewise, women will call you shallow for saying the same. Who cares? If you can pull a bunch of hot girls with good personalities, why settle for an ugly one with a good personality or a hot one with a bad personality. I'd just like to point out to those reading, nowhere in OPs must-have list does it say that this hot tall guy needs to be nice. Take notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:01 PM
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Personally, it doesn't really mean much to me one way or another. If I hooked up with a girl on the first date and it was just kind of meh, I'd never see her again. But if she were hot and I liked her, you can guarantee there would be more. It just so happens that much more women are meh than hot and fun enough to keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:57 PM
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Hey, I don't post much here anymore but I browse from time to time. This post caught my eye for whatever reason so here I am. I've been doing the whole "Red Pill" thing for going on five years. I'm very happy Why aren't you enjoying spinning plates? If the girls suck, get rid of them and raise your standards. Any dude can dumpster dive and as it sounds like you are already learning, spinning plates is actually pretty easy and mindless. So do what you want with that. Again, if the girls suck, fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:22 AM
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My point is that legitimate grievances are irrelevant to the fact that protecting yourself is a good idea. Maybe some people are overreacting but I think you're reading into that too much. It's always been this way to some extent. If you're big, you're taught to do everything you can to avoid a possible he said/she said. That risk has always been bigger for men working with women. Now it's just out in the public eye and people are spooked by the SJW boogeymen of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:58 PM
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It makes a big difference when you have a target on your back. People make careers out of lawsuits against those in my position. You'd be retarded not to act accordingly. If you know anything about the type of person who would typically bring a lawsuit, they're usually an opportunistic type doing it for pure personal gain. Not saying that all sexual harassment isn't warranted but the type of person who gets a suit against them is the type of person who didn't protect themself in the first place.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:11 PM
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In my field it's a little different but you still have to be careful. I hire almost exclusively women although wouldn't rule out a man of they fit the bill. But a lot of it has always been this way: -our clients vastly prefer female assistants -never be alone with a woman, client or employee, especially not with a door shut. -with female clients, there is always a woman present. We don't have a lot of strict rules for the guys but this is kind or what they teach in risk management, to tiptoe aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:03 PM
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The idea that sexuality is innate is central to TRP. The entire conflict revolves around the idea that sexual attraction is based on a primitive, basic, hardwiring of human beings. That idea is offensive because it suggests that men and women are inherently different, an idea that feminists particularly hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 11:29 PM
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Against blue pill? Well a large percentage of feminist belief hinges on the fact that nuture is far greater than nature in determining behavior, that you can just unteach wrong-think male behaviors. Ever seen a baby boy stare at a nice rack? It starts early and we all know it. Traditionally male and female behaviors are written into our DNA and feminism wants to ignore all signs of this being true. The feminists are of the belief that you can raise a right handed child to be left handed while al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:07 PM
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Although my SO is fairly conservative, I've dated several very liberal women and it's never been a problem. Posters here act like you have to be some traditionalist conservative to enjoy a masculine man with conviction and no patience for bullshit. In my experience, all women like a man that takes charge and isn't ashamed of his own masculinity, especially the feminists. Most married liberal women I know who are wishing for a little more "RP" if you will have a meek, people pleaser type of husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 08:55 PM
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Funding and emotional pull
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:00 AM
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So I'm firmly in the red camp but IMO your advice is admittedly... Kind of purplish red. Most red pill advice revolves around forgetting about the girl, getting fit, getting interesting, learning to stand up for yourself, and taking charge of your personal and sexual life. If she's too much work, forget the chick because there is another one around the corner. I mean, the most foundational concept is that you can't negotiate attraction, just become more attractive. It's tonally intense because i…
/r/ExRedPill03/07/18 11:45 PM
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One of the main reasons I stopped participating here and on Reddit in general. When I think of the average Reddit user I think of a college educated kid with no real life experience parroting "outrage" opinions they read on the internet. They have no real perspective other than their own sheltered lives in which they never had to think for themselves or develop any kind of unique thought. Nobody here challenges themselves to become better, they just come to find reasons to feel superior about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:49 AM
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Because it's not a study, it's literally a survey of unnamed "experts" based on perception. There is nothing quantitative about this "study".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:21 AM
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I don't fucking believe in God man Don't care. You talk like an ideologue. It doesn't matter what you subscribe to. Whether it's TRP, BP, Jordan Peterson, Trump, Christianity or whatever, you're still acting like your way is THE way. It's empty talk because all you're doing is moralizing to a bunch of strangers the same way a religious person would try to convince non-believers to convert. Perfect example would be if I told you that you were wrong and an idiot for not believing in god. It wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 09:52 PM
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I'm not at one extreme Except it's not a matter of red vs blue. You sound like a born-again christian who's trying to get everyone to pray more. Again, you're acting like your newfound ideology is salvation while doing the same thing that you claim to be against. You wrote a lot of words with very little actual content other than being judgemental of others. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:44 PM
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Don't be a fool guys, wake up just like I did! Sounds like you're just going from one extreme to another looking for some kind of enlightenment. The whole post is pseudo intellectual rambling without saying a whole lot in the end. That's the one thing I don't like about the whole Jordan Perterson craze. He's not the end-all be-all of higher thinking. He's a decent communicator that adds a philosophical twist to the age-old concept of personal responsibility. The ultimate message shouldn't be tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 06:41 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:16 PM
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Having spent a lot of time servicing the underprivileged in both rural and urban settings, its really sad to see. Most people just gravitate towards who they think might help them, which is often exploited for political gain. Should have seen all the politicians in flint leading up to elections, nowhere to be found now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:14 PM
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And the environment you're in. If anybody has all the answers, they'd be a billionaire. Realistically, someone who is sharp will be an expert in their local environment, with some universally applicable skills. That's good enough to be alpha. You don't need to be god, just better than others around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:56 PM
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"Anything = everything" is a stupid argument for simple minds that can't handle multiple variables Thank you for pointing this out. It's such a common argument here. Attraction is a combination of variables and so many people like to "disprove" TRP or maybe more specifically design some kind of "gotcha" type logic to show that there's no such thing as "Alpha" by attempting to quantify the variables. You could take selective blue pill quotes out of context and make them argue against themselves, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:28 PM
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More true than anybody is comfortable to admit. I've said it before, it's not what you say. It's how you say it. You can say anything you want and if done correctly make it sound very nice. You can also make it sound absolutely horrible. Word choice, tone, and Charisma and status of the individual speaking make a big difference and how a message is delivered. I say status of the individual because that puts weight behind what you say. An attractive person saying something has a lot more legitima…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:21 PM
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I mostly come here for the lulz. Its fun watching people trip over their own hypocrisy when they contradict themselves the second their beliefs are challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 06:25 PM
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In the 3 years ive been doing this, honestly cant think of a single instance in which it's backfired. Its only benefited me, often greatly. No regrets. I broke a lot of hearts but that was on them. Should have listened when I told them I wasn't looking for anything serious. Ive also become hated by some of the dumpiest loser friends of the girls I dated. The miserable mother hens that just suck the fun out of the room really didnt like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 04:23 PM
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Actually if you left your echo-chamber you would realize that most people who aren't a card-carrying feminist think it's a retarded concept. Of course the people who believe the conspiracy won't think it's a conspiracy. That would require self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 01:10 AM
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I always go back to the same simple fact. Trp is about why the asshole is attractive despite being an asshole. BP kids stuck on the attractive asshole half. They also can't comprehend why a forum for self-improvement would be filled with losers or similarly why a forum devoted to making fun of people is also filled with losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:59 PM
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Can't move away from something that's not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:51 PM
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What you're telling us is that she has power over you. I don't tolerate bad behavior in any way shape or form. My girl and I have different strengths and weaknesses that complement each other. You have an unreliable person who doesn't respect your time. If it were me in that position I would have dropped her a long time ago. When you truly have a lot going on in life your time will be the most valuable thing you have and she doesn't give a shit about yours. She doesn't give a shit about your mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:46 PM
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I wouldnt record it. Youre paying too much mind to people whos opinions are stupid. Get your laugh in your head, know they wont change, and move on. A real alpha doesn't feel negative towards losers. A real alpha feels nothing aside from indifference and maybe a momentary silent chuckle. Don't waste any more brainwaves on it than you have to.
/r/askTRP29/07/17 04:41 PM
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Arguing with losers gets you nowhere. Best to make your peace with them, be agreeable, and know in your head you have a daily example of what not to be. Accept that any victory you have against them will only ever be in your own head so the confrontation is a waste of energy. Use it as a lesson because attempting to "win" is only demonstrating that they have mental power over you. A&A is a similar concept. Confronting and attempting to rationalize the shit test is less effective than agreeing an…
/r/askTRP29/07/17 02:52 PM
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Nope, its a good thing none of those things are dealbreakers. Just excuses to justify that maybe it's not you, its the world. Nice psychological defense mechanism, dude. Anything to blame but your superior intellect. For someone who's supposedly done so much you clearly cant even grasp basic concepts of self improvement. You need to go back to square one and start working on your shitty attitude because thats something actually fixable.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 02:28 PM
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Excuses. Take it from the Hulk in The Avengers. He's always angry. I'm always horny. It's an irrelevant detail.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 12:33 PM
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You obviously didn't. I'll repeat I can write a 200-page novel on every mistake I've made and every deficiency I have that keeps me from being a more attractive person. You are apparently perfect according to you aside from your face. Dude it's not your face. It's your personality. I told you your ability to self-critique is obviously bad and what did you do? You didn't take the advice. You doubled down. So not only can you not self-critique but you are stubborn and take criticism poorly. No won…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 12:31 PM
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You think you're the only person who ever worked hard for something? Do you realize this perspective is more shitty attitude? Complaining about it until the world turns around is a blue pill perspective. Most people who busted their ass to achieve something don't talk about it.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 12:19 PM
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I'll give you a hint. People are not shaming you for being more in shape and having better grades than them. The percentage of human beings who do that is probably less than 1%. I graduated top of my class and reached higher athletic achievement then anybody I graduated with. LOL I've never been shamed for that. The type of person who shames you for that is typically a 2 out of 10 who is jealous. Do you think the average person is jealous of you? Honestly? Based on what little I know of you your…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 12:10 PM
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The way you write it sounds like you just checked a bunch of things off a list and expected everything to work out automatically afterwards. Doesn't sound like you have achieved any greater understanding of any concepts or internalized any ideas. Doesn't sound like you've identified any of your weak points. I'm way better off and could write a book on mine and my own failures. How good is your game? Can you socialize with men? If you can't do it with men how do you ever expect to do so with wome…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/17 11:17 AM
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Not this same, tired argument again. Couldn't you have at least come up with something a bit more creative? Maybe an analogy that's actually an analogy? If you're insistent on trying to drive this shit home until it sticks with someone, why don't you try logic-based discussion. Or maybe discuss the actual tactics instead of behavior of individuals you don't like. You'd have to be more specific. Dunno, this post just reads like someone butthurt that RPillers might not be universally hated and uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 10:14 PM
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Feels good, doesn't it? It would definitely make the world a better place. Unfortunately the world is full of freeloaders and people who are too dumb to do anything about their own disposition in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:55 PM
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What I meant to get at with my original questions was that as a man with this worldview, do you look for women who put the same kind of work into themselves? Oh, absolutely. It's actually pretty easy to do when you walk the walk. You just demand a partner who has the same values in hard work and self-fulfillment. It also makes for an awesome relationship which is why I always laugh at all the bluepiller claims of RP only working on insecure women. When I am very much self-sustaining in my own li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 03:35 PM
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Do you think RP holds women to the same standard, or do they think this mentality something only achievable by men? You're asking the wrong question. The only person RP holds to any standards is yourself and to not have expectations of others. A better question would be does society hold women to a different standard and that is objectively true. Financially, the government heavily subsidizes women in both tax burden and the lions share of gendered handouts. From a structural standpoint, society…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 02:59 PM
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Most people on this sub extend this definition to include more than just socioeconomic success. You realize the reason why is that this sub constantly deconstructs all these topics to death and back. Trying to relate them and create some kind of web of understanding. I don't see why it's so hard for people to compartmentalize different ideas as different concepts entirely. It's how we test variables, by limiting the amount we're measuring at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:46 PM
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lmao. That's pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:42 PM
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Hmm, yeah, that's weird. In response to your post specifically, I went through a very similar mental process to what you're experiencing in my early twenties. I hung around and drank the koolaid with some cool "open minded" women for a few years. It just seemed so obviously "the right thing" when the issues were framed a certain way. They tug on your emotions with all the supposed years of oppression against women. Look a little deeper and you'll find women outperform men in almost every QOL met…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:40 PM
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Trump tweeted a typo that should have been the word "coverage". Joked about it being a code word for something. Instantly became a meme. I'd like to think covfefe is some kind of patriotic morning beverage, but nobody knows for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:02 PM
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Awww, he deleted his post, it was great! Nothing like a heaping spoonful of hypocrisy with my morning covfefe to wake me up. For those who missed it: OP thinks fat women are treated unfairly by society because her close friend is fat. But ugly, short men are incompetent losers with mental problems because her short brothers are cool and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 12:06 PM
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It is human nature for most people to want a quick fix for their problems. Overweight? Heres a pill for your diabetes and blood pressure! Here is no different. Most of the users should be sealing themselves in a blast shelter to eat kale, lift weights, and work on their sense of style for six months but theyd rather go out and start negging bitches. What they fail to realize is that your SMV typically needs to be higher than hers to get casual sex that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:48 AM
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That must explain why the low twenties group has such a higher divorce rate. Their value is so high that their wives feel compelled to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 07:16 PM
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Welcome to feminism where all blame can be led back to the patriarchy. Society is naturally inclined to help women first. (Actual) Rape is almost universally abhorred. Men and women are treated equally under the law, if slightly slanted in womens favor, and everything wrong in the world is straight white men's fault. Usually women respond to this by saying well most rape accusations are true so it's OK to always believe the victim even if you end up ruining some poor guy's life every once in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 11:32 AM
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What is most amazing is that somebody pays her to write this type of shit. Her entire publishing history is just written from this completely uppity yet miserable perspective. I've met some like her. Fascinating people, these types are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 10:16 PM
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He's the main reason I don't buy most of what trp sells I don't see how this contradicts anything. He is alpha by every metric aside from being short and chubby. If anything, it proves that having good game can overcome other deficiencies, something that blue pillers constantly squabble about. A common thought here is that there isn't some right thing you could have done or said to make a girl want to sleep with you. Your brother is living proof that that is false. I'll tell you this, I don't fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 09:08 PM
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You're missing the part about the guy the bouncer was about to throw out helping him get laid that night, and taking, and posting the pictures of him that greatly upped his status, and made him a bit of a draw to the bar himself. A few good angled shots posted up, and he quickly became "that sexy bouncer at the _". Literally none of this has to do with the fact that he's gay, which was the highlight of your post. When you strip out the trivial details, this is how your story reads: "A particular…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:30 PM
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So are social straight people. Anybody can potentially be a good wingman. Your story isn't some magical hidden secret because he's gay. Take away that fact and this is an entirely unremarkable story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:26 PM
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It's silly because being gay is not a unique requirement for being a good wingman. Neither is being a man. Being gay also isnt unique to having access to large pools of datable women. This isnt a remarkable talent as I know plenty of gays who are useless at both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 11:59 AM
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Your post was looked down on because you didn't make a compelling point. Everybody knows that having a good wingman is helpful. For those of us who aren't friends with a socially Savvy gay guy who's interested in playing Matchmaker there is nothing to garner from this story. Even if you were friends with such a person you are still paying to do something that can easily be done for free in 5 minutes. Opening a group of people introducing yourself and screening the women you talk to is much more …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 11:43 AM
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The majority of men are happy with whatever women will give them a whiff of pussy and shack up immediately, and this is how so many of them end up unhappy, in mid-life crises... wondering what else they could have done with their lives. This is the real answer. Spinning plates makes it much easier to find a quality partner as you can compare the flaws in the multiple different women you see. Even OP mentioned it in his post, a lot of the women he dated casually were pretty good, but he knew they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:00 PM
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One stole a bunch of money from me. Another faked a rape so I would feel sorry for her. There's been other incidents but those two events were particularly evil in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:57 PM
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I don't. Men are generally equally as disgusting as women. They just tend to have different flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:53 PM
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Well depending on your career choice, you're going to have to deal with a lot of unhinged people in your life and in your work. Maybe ten years from now you'll feel differently about this. But I am surprised though that you don't see any difference between singling out individuals to laugh at with people who have deep seeded personal motivations to hate these individuals and poking fun at a large group on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:31 AM
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Who you blame is a lot less important than what you decide to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:03 AM
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That's all you got for me? I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed by this response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:02 AM
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I've said the same numerous times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:00 AM
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I have no beef any of those subs, particularly r/menslib or r/exredpill. But r/thebluepills entire existence revolves around their own perception of morality. the only difference is that you are not posting it on a subreddit. That's a pretty major difference. I'm not singling out individuals. I'm not naming them for a group of people to harass them. I'm not doing it publicly to laugh at them loud enough so they can see it. I'm not telling them they should kill themselves or hoping they're wiped …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:40 PM
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I pop in every once in a while because I find the users fascinating. Sometimes they link to a thread with a dude with a failing marriage that you might as well see on r/relationships but because it was posted on r/marriedredpill, they start frothing at the mouth filling in the blanks in any way you could possibly imagine about how he must have done something horrible, is to blame for everything, and his wife MUST be the poor, 100% innocent victim of the patriarchy. A creative bunch they are. I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:09 AM
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Reddit in general circlejerks introverted women so hard. Its like they're all wishing for their quiet little special snowflake, both the reds and blues. Some are cool and actually interesting. On the other hand a lot of introverted women are introverted because they are insecure or have boring personalities with nothing to say. On a more personal note, I want a girl that can handle herself in a social situation or new environment. I don't want to have to deal with whether or not she's having fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:58 AM
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So it's ONLY douchey in a sexual context because reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:34 PM
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People who use it as some sort of "strategy" though aren't actually nice. The issue with drawing this line is that everybody wants sex. Everybody. So anybody who thinks being nice helps them is a douche. By expanding your standards on "niceness" onto non-sexual interactions, altruism doesn't exist because niceness is rooted in selfishness. By your metrics, niceness is dependent on arbitrary "intentions," except these are dependent on the outcome of whether the woman had a positive interaction. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:41 PM
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You can be nice without being a fucking weirdo who is doing it as a sort of act. So then you answered the OPs question by dodging the question and answering with a tirade about a separate distinct group of people. Or is your contention that being nice actually DOES get you laid and all we see is the failures because they are secret misogynist niceguy TMs? We all know the latter is horseshit so I'm going to go ahead and call your response "off-topic" I mean, the actual answer to the question and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:52 AM
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Then why not both? Best of both worlds. Being agreeable is great - happy blooper relationships generally have two agreeable people in them. Being too agreeable is called a "yes" man and most people don't like these types all that much. Too much agreeability on both sides leads to apathy and indecisiveness, also not a great combination for a good relationship. Not saying agreeability is bad, but its not an automatic formula for success either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:40 AM
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Because physical health of your mate is much more important as a primary sexually attractive trait for a man seeking a fertile woman than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:26 AM
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Personally about 99% of it was learned from women in my life: my mom, female relatives, my female friends in highschool. I got an insane amount of praise growing up from women for being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:21 AM
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The SMP is going to change much more from everyone getting fat and population changes in ethnicity. Different cultures respond differently to game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:15 AM
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Its an assumption that all men labeled "nice guys" are duplicitous when you are assuming their intentions. Especially when you add selection bias of the internet, it's easy to say those scummy nice guys are just trying to trick women into fucking them when the only stories you ever see are the worst examples the world has to offer. Last time I checked, wanting to be loved is not a crime. Most people are like this and could similarly be labeled as evil "nice guys" given the right circumstances. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:47 AM
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Is it really that common outside of wealthy circles? I've never dated a guy more than 3 years older than me and when I was in college all of my female friends dated guys within 1-2 years of their age (my college bf was actually 6 months younger than me). Only 3+ years? I know countless couples like this where the man is a good deal older. Only one or two where the woman is more than a year. It's definitely a thing. Not just wealthy. The real reason I think my friends date a bit older is because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:37 AM
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The only times I've ever been accused of being emotionally distant was when I was clinging to my relationship and a wide open book of communicashunn. Overcommunicating creates more opportunities to have your intentions misinterpreted when you don't say something the way they want to hear it or something comes out wrong. When I don't make my emotions my SOs burden, I'm told I'm strong, reliable, and "its just the way I am"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:04 PM
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I think as a woman it's hard to get far above 50 because this disingenuous bullshit test was designed around the narrative that women are oppressed and therefore picked fairly common scenarios where they got the short end of the stick, while scenarios were the same applies to men were conspiciously absent. Not even. I took one of these tests once and I'm supposedly super oppressed, despite being a UMC white male. These tests are slanted towards one off events and feelings of victimhood. In other…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:48 PM
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Autocorrect. Whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:36 PM
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DGAF attitude is tied more to your own self worth than anything. Do you think you're the shit or a piece of shit? The best way to think you have a lot of value is to create a lot of value in yourself. There's no substitute for hard work. The one thing that abundance really taught me was that most women are kind of shitty. Most men are also kind of shitty but besides the point. Anyway, most women are kind of shitty: lazy, boring, have shitty opinions, elitism, and entitlement. I'm a pretty harsh …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:53 AM
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You know how you know you're full of shit? When someone asks a legit question which challenges your position you have no answer other than, "Well, gee, maybe they should just try harder!" Wow, never thought of it! Lets shit down r/incels because this guy solved it! Reality is a lot more complicated and hand waving away large populations at distinct disadvantages because sluts exist is very silly. In the real world, you have to be ready and available at the moment she is, present and not fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 11:31 AM
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The game is good. The theory behind it is "I don't care if it's true or not" territory. While it can be interesting to ponder why people ended up this way. Its ultimately a huge time sink that keeps me away from a much cooler real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:38 PM
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False dichotomy. The opposite of submissiveness is not "outgoing" or "fun". On the extreme end its overbearing, commanding, or controlling. Submissiveness is a form of agreeability. Doesn't mean that person doesn't have a functioning brain with their own desires, interests, and hobbies. My SO is fairly submissive and a VERY outgoing, life of the party type. I know a lot of women like this. I think reddit tends to confuse these things because its full of introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:36 PM
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but you didn't explain when to do it or how to put it across or when not to to it Well I'm not here to teach you how to do it. Just discussing key components. The intelligence isn't what you say(which is simple) so much as when and how you say it(which is nuanced). How is that any different from what I said? I said it's not what you say as much as how you say it. Your response was its more simple and nuanced because its not what you say its how you say it?? Huh? You really can't teach like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 05:30 PM
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My advice if someone says "EW, that's GAY" to you is to have the self esteem to stop interacting with someone so negative. Plenty of attractive women that aren't assholes to go for If I did this, I would be a very lonely person. Realistically most of your friends and family have some unsavory opinions or opinions you don't agree with. It's interesting how easily you would write that person off as an asshole based on one little comment. Especially something that was so easy to flip on her. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:41 PM
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you could put this much more succinctly without self fellating, what you say makes sense but all you're saying is "don't ask in a way that expects a negative answer" it's fairly self explanatory but if you over egg what they're doing all the recipient of this advice will do is stress about whether they asked her out in the best possible way So here you say my breakdown is too specific The use of good sales technique is much more simple and much more reliant on nuance and timing than you claim, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:14 PM
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I see shit tests come up a lot in the context of LTRs/marriages too. Hell, we've had a thread on this very sub about whether your wife asking you to hold her purse is a shit test It really depends on the context. For example, my ex used to ask me to do shit just to make me do shit for her. In her eyes, she was in charge and I was a subordinate. It became really apparent when I started doing literally all the chores, cooking, and cleaning. She didn't have a leg to stand on and yet the bullshit di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 01:31 PM
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It's not a shit test though Well you didn't hear the tone in which it was said. It wasn't like "Thats so gaaay, teehee!!" It was more like a look of disgust and "Ew, Thats GAY!!" Less of friendly banter and more of "who the fuck is this guy??!" I also like that your advice as far as response is "flirt", "be natural", "don't insult her". Not to criticize but you do realize that it SUCH feminine minded advice and really isn't going to help the average guy. How do you flirt? How do you be natural? …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 01:01 PM
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I think it because you're overexplaining basic social interaction. You think this because you don't understand how sales and marketing work. It's easy to pick out the type because you guys always have the same criticisms. There is no special "line" that is going to automatically convince people to buy your shit. Sometimes you have a script which is meant to hit on a specific point. But it's typically not an exact line, more just the way in which you put across what you want to say. When I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 12:45 PM
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So you were ugly and now you're not? Who would have thought your success would improve. Improving one aspect of what makes you attractive does not disprove the existence of other factors. How attractive are you compared to the girls you bring home? What's your status/job siutation in your community? What is the hookup culture like where you live? How many women are there compared to men? Can you pick up the one hot girl at a huge sausage fest? Ever pick up a girl in an extremely unusual situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 12:16 PM
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By the way rolling with a flirt to the red pill? Also known as passing a shit test. You know that thing that supposedly doesn't exist? Same concept rebranded for specific audience. There's a reason we say when you lighten the language everybody agrees with it. Apparently you do too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:40 PM
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Except you're the one who keeps saying that it is some special power. It's not. Why do you think that I think this? These are little minut details that add up to a sale. No BS required. Simply a better explanation for why it works than your vague explanation. If you ever had to track your sales numbers maybe you would understand why tone and specific wordage and the frame in which your conversation exists are important. It's not Magic. It's the little details that add up to a greater package. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:34 PM
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Says the guy who unsuccessfully implemented the techniques. It's not the internet's fault that you couldn't read between the lines and instead went for direct emulation of dick heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:08 PM
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Yes who would have thought that game done right is like a normal human interaction. I thought it was always easy to spot? Seriously though where the difference is here is that I am able to highlight exactly why this was the correct response and can reproduce the results in a slightly similar situation. Everybody here thinks sales is some fancy Voodoo used to trick people. It's not. It's simply finding what works and applying it to new situations. It's very disingenuous to say that only bad game …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:05 PM
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I know/interact with 0 single moms. Congratulations? If you want to meet a few, just spend a few minutes on tinder. Then you can learn who's living down the block from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:57 PM
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who you know is an important reflection on your class and value system Who you spend your free time with is a reflection on your class and value system. Who you know has very little to do with it. I worked in a rehab clinic with a bunch of junkies. Know a lot of ex-junkies. Is that a reflection on my value system that I have long term business relationships with junkies in which I helped them and made a lot of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:55 PM
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Racially diverse suburbs in a large metro area
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:40 PM
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How often do you have millionaires and homeless people over for dinner? Infrequently. I don't invite anyone over for dinner, although I do have a close friends from many backgrounds. Do you get close enough to them where they open up to u about their divorce? All the time. People are surprisingly open about this kind of thing. I hear about every detail of people's divorces within 5 minutes of meeting them sometimes. Any opportunity to bash the ex if they think you're friendly and will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:28 PM
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Well OP didn't say you had to be intimately close friends with them, just had to know them. Besides, why do we have to box people in based on who they know? Maybe you just know a lot of people. Its just an ignorant argument to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:27 PM
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geographic proximity doesn't mean there's meaningful interaction there. Schools, churches, hospitals, friends of friends, family of friends, relatives, business associates, clients can all fall into this category. I deal with these people all the time. I'm not saying that people don't stick mostly to others of similar background. Just that knowing a bunch of people of a specific socioeconomic background says very little as the only requirement to do so is to have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:54 PM
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it's just that they might actually point out some good qualities they have in amongst the BS sales pitch A good sales pitch isn't BS. A good sales pitch will use selective langauge and tone to highlight your strengths and downplay your weakness. No lying required and definitely not recommended if you want repeat customers and good word of mouth. Here's a little example I had of agree and amplify Me: I like [Insert feminine activity] Her: That's gay Me: OH FOR SURE, its super gay Her:giggles By n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:49 PM
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Trying to game someone who isn't immediately physically attracted to you leads to a very artificial and unstable relationship. Why would you try to game someone who isn't attracted to you? Of course it's going to fail a lot if you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:27 PM
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if you know single moms either THEY or YOU are not above prole This is simply false. Geographically classes of people aren't that isolated unless you live in a particularly high end or low end area. Where I live there are million dollar homes within walking distance of america's dumpster. Unless you're socially isolated, chances are you'll interact with a broad range of classes very frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:22 PM
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If you know "single moms" and a lot of divorced people you're lower class. Don't know about where you live, but where I live you have just about every "class" of people living within a mile of each other. I interact with very rich (multimillionaires) and very poor people (toothless, unemployed) on a regular basis. Sure, there are some areas that are geographically less wealthy, but knowing a lot of single moms is hardly a metric for measuring socioeconomic class of any given individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 06:11 PM
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I'm a very good, non selfish wingman. Very good at getting women to talk to my friends. Would always defer to my friend on which one he wants and would occupy the uglier friend. Thats what happens when you have abundance. You dont need to be selfish. Worst case scenario I was already FWB with a hotter girl or just as hot. Bro code is helping my bros. I personally wouldnt be interested in hooking up with a cheater. Some would, some wouldnt. But a faceless man I'll probably never meet and a girl w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:22 PM
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A lot of women have bought into the idea that sex is not supposed to be fun. They begrudgingly have sex with their unattractive husbands because they don't know any better. That's why when she finds the right man to fuck she all of a sudden has this libido she never knew existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:32 PM
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lol. Reading this shit on the internet is too funny to me. Pathetic men from the PUA community think they are slick but me and my girlfriends can see through them immediately, especially with their "negging". I take men home with natural confidence and who can hold a conversation with me without insulting me. Exactly the type of shit girls I would hook up with would say. I'd egg them on a bit and see what they thought about all those looooooosers PUA types going after them, listen to their ridic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 12:19 PM
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Read OPs post on TBP. Abusive ex, therefore he must be a red piller despite their being nothing remotely identifiable as game or RP in the post. She was a child with low self esteem that encountered a predator and is looking for a rational reason why. To OP, you met a shitty person and weren't equipped with the life skills yet to say no and enforce boundaries. It happens. Don't let it define you. Learn from it and move on. Morality has little to do with game/seduction. The seducer could be a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:55 AM
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Think about the context in which you got tricked though. You certainly wouldn't have thought about it as being tricked if it ended up being an entirely positive experience. If the guy turned out to be a good dude and you kept seeing each other, would you have said "He tricked me!". What if he was mindblowing sex and turned out to be a great friend, is it a trick then? People feel duped because they got a raw deal when they thought they were getting something better. Ultimately, it wouldn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:25 AM
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Going to have to strongly disagree on this one. Attempting to convince someone you're right often involves people's world view emotionally invested in the outcome. You won't convince them. They'll often just pull you into their bucket of shit. The ole crab bucket mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 07:10 PM
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Men are also worse at 99% of things. They deviate further from average in both directions. Focusing on ways in which men can be shitty doesnt help anyone get laid (unless you consider knowing how to turn a laundry machine on as a something that needs to be spelled out because if you can't do that, and many dudes can't, you've got a long way to go)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:40 AM
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Sexual strategy is amoral in that the person using it is either moral or not. Its the same argument as "guns don't kill people, people kill people" If you use your powers for evil, doesn't make the powers evil, it makes you evil. Similarly, if you use game to step over people for personal benefit at their loss, you would be doing it for less moral reasons. Its fairly easy to apply the same principles without harming anyone. I remember the guy in that example. The reason he was called an idiot wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:35 AM
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Okay. I just don't see a reason to point out examples of a very pervasive subtle bias
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:48 PM
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Its an observed bias in both men and women that has been demonstrated through studies. Its very similar to white privilege where you'll only really notice it if you're black (or male in this case). An old friend of mine has sunken in, bulging eyes, a boney face, and permanent 5 o clock shadow. Nicest guy in the world but looks like a serial killer. Holy shit any place I went with that guy, people were uncomfortable. Hes super friendly and doesnt deserve to be treated like that. My SO on the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:04 PM
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You make a good point but I think it's a good idea to make a distinction here. You do not have to give up all the nerdy things you do in your life to succeed with women. I don't hide that I do certain very nerdy things. However what I don't do is openly advertise it. For the most part showing off your nerdiness is a net negative in attracting women. However once you've got her hooked if she's worth a damn she's not going to reject who you are because one of your hobbies. On the other hand a lot …
/r/TheRedPill20/06/17 12:11 PM
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Women think they want a natural because they dont like the idea that they're being decieved. Holding this position helps them to say that learning how to flirt with women is somehow less authentic if you read it from "misogynistic forums" vs learning IRL. Its nothing more than a way to point fingers arpumd here. In the end there's very little difference in how you got to be the person you are if you end up the same. The real truth is that people who learn from the internet tend to have the "acad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:01 AM
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Who said all incels? This is about a particular type of person that the OP describes. I've discussed most Incel's before though. Have quite a few friends this way who're perpetually hopeless and the one thing they have in common is a complete inability to self critique. They're usually far more fucked in the head than they let on and trust me, it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:07 AM
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For sure. On average it probably gives the "victims" a smilarly shitty feeling of unwantedness with hoplessness. Its hard to dig yourself out of a shithole and get what you want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 02:16 PM
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Uhhh ive been saying all this the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 02:11 PM
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One major difference here is that it's not socially acceptable for a man to ask a woman for more sex or damage the relationship over sex. "Its his fault" for being a horndog or something silly like that. On the other hand, if a woman is stuck in the sex zone, he "lead her on". Morally its always most convenient to blame the man. The man is the acting component in the romance, thus to blame when it goes wrong despite if the problem is female or male specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:47 PM
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This is just the result of all the failures congregating in one place. You will fail at either pill if all you do is whine and bitch on the internet. Of course, they'll never stop because procrastination is a hell of a drug. Chad is just their easy excuse. Same people. Different excuse. I didn't start posting here until I completely had a handle on my shit. Dont have all day to waste on the internet when real life is calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:36 PM
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So it's been stated here by bluepillers that RP works best on lesser quality women who fall for it and go for that immediate casual sex, not BP women. Separately it's been stated that we shouldnt judge based on when women decide to have sex. So which is it? Because this sounds like saying women who have sex more quickly are lower quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 01:13 PM
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All you've conceded is that game can exist within parameters that you have defined which make it either impossible or defined as something very negative. I also find it very hard to believe you went to business school. You would know what information is measurable and why, what value that information has, and what the limits of that information is. How could you have an MBA and fail to connect any of these dots? I'll entertain your idea though. Just out of curiosity, how do you propose we design…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:34 PM
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I had the same experience. Made incremental improvements in my life and kept my mouth shut about my grievances. Her attitude changed on its own over time. Funny thing is, its literally in the required reading for MRP. There's entire chapters of books about it: Incremental change, self improvement vs telling the spouse what to do. They say you can't expect change unless you first improve yourself. You have nothing to bargain with or even be in a position to ask for change if youre also falling sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:34 PM
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My claim was that 'game' "doesn't exist" that's me asking you to provide evidence This is an appeal to ignorance. Just because I haven't provided evidence doesn't make it so. If your definition of game is more valid, you haven't provided anything to support it other than a bunch of ad hominem attacks. It says a lot about your argument that when pointing out your breaks in logic you came back with moralizing, assumptions, and insults. where is the non-rationalization based evidence that 'game' or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 08:22 PM
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If I cared enough, id produce some material with less inflammatory language. I like the fact that TRP presents certain things in extremes to hammer home certain points, but there are a lot of people out there who struggle to read between the lines or struggle to critique themselves. Go look at exredpill and you'll find a lot of people that jumped straight to being an asshole and hoping it would work. Did they never sit down and assess their weaknesses? Did they ever read a book or just read a bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:00 PM
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You're combining things I said here to fit an argument I never made Yeah, it's almost as if the quality of our argument is reliant on not contradicting ourselves in subsequent statements. Weird. it doesn't work unless someone's actually done some research or studies into this This is literally an appeal to ignorance. We don't have the study, therefore it doesn't exist. And I didn't call you ignorant, just told you why your argument is faulty. The absence of proof doesn't disprove something. I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 12:32 AM
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Throughout this you've commited a number of fallacies. First of all, circular reasoning. Game cannot be defined because it doesn't exist. Because it doesn't exist it doesn't work. On the other hand, you define it as NOT this one thing that works because it doesn't exist so it must not be that. You've also committed just world fallacy. Being like you is good and it worked for you so therefore being "good" works. Game is not like you and therefore doesn't work or is bad. You've defined it as undef…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:10 PM
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Game doesn't exist. [Its] Manosphere malarkey [its] Manosperoid fiction. [Its] obfuscation of intentions and cheap charades. [You} Manipulate your way into her pants by bullshitting around There is no such thing as 'game.' I'm not saying this just to say "it doesn't work", rather I've yet to see a proper evaluation of [game] I never claimed anything about valid persuasion techniques not working I don't know about the sales tactics you mentioned specifically when it comes to actual sales/business…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:31 PM
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By your own admission, you don't know how sales work, you don't know how game works, but you somehow just know they aren't related because you've been dating your wife since college? K. The answer to your loaded question is "you've done a good thing." That doesn't say much. Good luck spinning this into something related to "gaming" or meeting women. "Nasty" attitude is here simply because your approach, borrowed from the cesspool of the Manosphere, ends with some people (women) getting possibly …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:14 PM
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That's a fair answer. The reason I say this is because I see these situations. It's never as simple as it looks and there is always some added complications or complex emotions involved. In this particular case the guy got the kidney. He is still alive but trashing his body and still very unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:58 AM
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Well, I know a younger dude who destroyed his body by taking piss-poor care of himself, abusing drugs, eating like shit, and with uncontrolled systemic disease leading to multiple debilitating health problems. Needed a kidney transplant and to completely turn his life around if he wanted to live... maybe 20 years. Do you give that guy your kidney? You're risking your own health going through the procedure, probably shortening your own lifespan, putting yourself at risk to a number of health prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:43 AM
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Dude, I went reading through your post history a bit and on some level, I know what it is. Of course it would be impossible to help someone simply with text, but you need to get under somebodies wing who can teach you how to flirt. -You're pretty short and that right there already puts you at a big disadvantage, moreso than race. Make sure you're in good fitness and have some muscles. You can't afford to NOT be in shape. -You indian or asian? Do you have an accent? Sometimes you have to play wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:35 AM
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Dumb question because it really really depends on the scenario and with stuff of that gravity, you never know unless it happens to you. Ehh, I guess i wouldn't say it's dumb but definitely extremely difficult for anybody here to answer in honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:11 AM
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Why the nasty attitude? I'm just illustrating a concept for you. I sell a lot. The human brain works the same way in any environment regardless of your intentions or whether you actually care about your customer. Sure, if you want long term business, its better to be honest. But then that's not even a good argument because it's not necessary to be dishonest to make a sale or follow RP. And I'm sure you've had lots of nice experiences being a friendly good guy. I just close the deal more often be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:08 AM
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It's true that you probably won't ever look that great after going to the gym. That's one reason I don't recommend it to get girls, (but instead almost exclusively for health.) Lot of incel-types have horrible hygiene as in they literally smell from a distance, have fucked up teeth, no hair-style, and dress in the most basic of clothes. Lot of them skipped step zero, bought a gym membership, walked on a treadmill for 15 minutes, and think they will go to the bar and start negging girls. Obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 12:56 PM
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I came across a story of a guy who basically tried to improve himself as best as possible but never ended up being romantically successful. If I remember he was a runner (or was it rock climbing?) in great shape, with a large social circle, and tried to ask out a significant number of women. He never got a single date after asking some 200+ women, which he blamed on being too physically unattractive (short Chinese or Indian guy). One of the most common things I see with people who struggle IRL i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:59 AM
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Instead of rating them, I'll just say the only dudes here capable of pulling decent, regular casual sex based on looks alone are 2 and 8. Everyone else can be beta boyfriends if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:43 AM
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That's horseshit. That "selling yourself" stuff is pure claptrap. So you could have just said you have no idea what you're talking about. FYI, there's a reason that people who work in sales are heavily invested in by companies that teach them how to "game" their customers with decades of data behind it. What makes you think they'll stop thinking about the number? A decent question but again proof you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll break it down as simple as possible. I sell a produ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:38 AM
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So, here's where I'm at with you. I wake up to this post, see the username, and think this must be a strawman. Didn't read it, but it must be. After getting my coffee and sitting down to actually read it, it's disappointing to me that I knew exactly what you were going to say. Do you have anything new to say or do you just like arguing with yourself in the mirror? To clarify for our readers: Because there are so many different types of women out there, it is foolish to take a singular approach t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:08 AM
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First of all, that's hyperbole. Second of all, personal experience tells me that the second type of woman is much more common. Anybody who's hooked up with a lot of women will tell you the same if they have any amount of conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:48 PM
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Its not in itself. Its more the problem of how "every" women is into travelling like its a fad if you will. You can tell the fakers pretty easily by simply asking them where they've been and what they liked about it. The faker's response is usually pretty laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:43 PM
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How does a dude not feel cheated when he works hard to become exceptionally well adjusted, for the great "privilege" of being selected by someone who fulfills the minimum criteria? Not sure what you're on about. When I was single, women were "trying out" for me. They would come over with gifts, clean my house, cook for me, and do whatever they could to impress me because if they didn't, somebody else was right around the corner. I'd say they tried pretty damn hard and it wasn't them who had any …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:40 PM
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Truthfully, the specifics of AF/BB doesn't really matter. It's a concept to further illustrate the difference between alpha excitement and beta comfort. I don't think about it much at all to be honest. It should more just be motivation to become the kind of person you want to be. It's to give an example so you can conceptualize how you want to formulate your game. Picking the details apart to death and over analyzing doesn't do anybody any good because the details are what matter the least. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 06:57 PM
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This post is misogyny. How dare you endorse such abusive manipulative tactics! On a more serious note, for the most part I agree but the devil is in the details. Women have natural abundance, men do not. Men are generally responsible for the date being good, the romance being exciting, and the sex being good. The woman is pretty much expected to be a gracious receiver. The ways in which men and women will shit test are different. The ways in which they communicate are different. Their particular…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 11:37 PM
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Ahhh yeah, thats what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 07:43 PM
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Almost none of this is taught properly in the Manosphere. I never claimed anything about valid persuasion techniques not working. Sure you did. You claimed game isn't real. Game is just persuasion tailored to sexual relationships. even if you learn the textbook technique... doesn't mean you can use it in practice. That's where many Manospherian guys will falter. You don't learn "techniques" in a book, you learn concepts. Frame is a concept. You learn how to maintain frame with practice. Real wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:46 PM
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Well the logic goes something like this: -The red pill is misogyny -Red pillers claim women respond positively to it (misogyny) -I respond negatively to RP (misogyny) therefore I am more intelligent than those who respond positively to it. -Women who like misogyny are insecure, therefore the red pill only works on insecure women! -TRP doesn't work on me, therefore I'm not insecure. In reality, confident sexual aggression works best on women who're comfortable in their own sexuality and comfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:38 PM
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Well if you knew anything about science you would know that it's not proof or no proof, its a gradient of evidence. Additionally, identical to sales, the best of the best are based on experience with loosely applied underlying scientific principles. Wording, tone control, and "frame" are all a part of this. Yes, frame is literally a sales technique. There isnt a textbook to tell you exactly how to do it, but there is statistically significant evidence that your tone and conversational control ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:30 PM
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You bang (or used to bang) 4 girls a week? That's pretty awesome. At one point, yeah. I wasn't always, some girls would come and go. Sometimes I'd be seeing a few already and there were a couple new ones that I didn't bang yet. The main takeaway from that is that once you get to the point where meeting women is easy, there will be more than you know what to do with pretty quickly. At the time I was doing this, I was usually texting with around 10 girls at any given time to see who was worth actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 03:08 PM
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Publicly apolitical because politics are polarizing for customers. They all have their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:17 PM
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Except its completely measurable in sales and theres an entire industry behind the science of it. The only reason the science of relationships isn't nearly as robust is because the volume of interactions is much lower and the uncontrollable variables are much less predictable, not to mention there is little financial motive to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:14 PM
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Ehhh, speaking for the top posters, who knows? Speaking for myself here: Below average height, athletic build, well dressed, attractive face. I dont have time for reddit rants. I found that time was a much more limiting factor than women. Only had time for about 4 girls a week. Ya Ya. This is one of my biggest disagreements with TBP. I think RP works worst on insecure girls. It works best on women who need little hand-holding. 2-3 points of SMV. More in exceptional cases. Same answer. No, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:03 PM
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Yeah dude... literally what the OP was about. Guys life is ruined because he was doxxed. There was a witch hunt on TBP about it. Of course the admins don't care because "he deserved it." Fact of the matter is there is no protection here and there are losers lurking here with nothing better to do than go after you if they decide they dont like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 12:36 AM
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Why post pictures when the blue pill literally tried to ruin this guy's life when they found out who he was? To prove to a bunch of strangers on the internet that you're seeing hot girls? Not worth it. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 10:24 PM
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You do realize that the dude is 70 years old, right? Hes the oldest US president ever. He seems like did well for himself but what relevance does the current SMV of a 70yo have? If anything, it shows that money and power are attractive because people are still discussing this grandpa's sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:47 PM
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Can you just point out how that is related. Not seeing it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:36 PM
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Sort of. Its called polarization. The men who're best at it will filter through women quickly by polarizing them. They either love you or hate you. They hate you? Move on until you find the one worth your attention. Hard to care about some lame date thinking you were too aggressive when you're hooking up with someone hotter/more fun. Don't waste energy on someone who only kind of likes you. Chances are if you actually speak your mind, she'll think you're douchey. So let her. It tells you all you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:28 PM
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Literally never heard a person complain about that. The much bemoaned problem is as follows: http://funnyand.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/When-GFs-want-to-eat-out.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:08 AM
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A submissive woman would happily go where you suggest. Saying "wherever you want, honey!" And then telling you all your choices are shitty is not related to submissive behavior. Wheres the problem OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 12:41 AM
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No they haven't, you just make up opinions and attribute them to BP just like you attributed them to me just now. You literally said it yourself that an average man can have two new sex partners per month in the previous thread. What we are saying is that, with effort, men who are "average" by most evident metrics (looks, status, income) can get laid every couple of months. So which is it? Can the average man consistently fuck multiple new women a month (again, something YOU said)? Or is it the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 11:59 PM
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Really? Because these past few threads on the topic have really enforced this idea that blue pillers think the average man is capable of this. All the sex he could have if he just actually tried. Just swiped a few girl's on tinder, treat them like human beings with feelings and he'll be having regular new hookups. Yeah, your scenario is very realistic. Why would red pillers have beef with that? Well, it requires no effort or skill and relies entirely on chance. Its about as helpful as "be yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 08:49 PM
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With consistenty? No. Theyll get lucky if they cast the reel in enough times but that doesnt say much at all. They'll get laid if they're in the right place at the right time and meet the right drunk chick. Most all men can count their potential mates on one hand and will eventually hook up with one of them over a period of months and labored effort. Majority of men arent capable of walking into a bar and leaving with a girl. I know a lot of people who have done it, very very few who can do it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:57 PM
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Maybe if they werent such assholes they would have gotten laid. Checkmate RP!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:46 PM
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The average man has a blue collar job making 40k a year, is overweight, with no college degree. Most people here frame average as "average in my above average social circle" Another possible explanation is people are thinking average when they mean to say ordinary or plain. They dont mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:34 PM
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Its not about being treated individually. Its the argument "RP is dumb because look at all these losers" isn't a valid argument. They were losers before and after. Their understanding of game is weak. And yet, theyre the majority of the focus here for debate. The more well reasoned your post is as a red piller, the more likely it is to be ignored or handwaved away because you can't jerk off to the idea of them all being autistic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 04:14 PM
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The point is that the average guy only has one prospect at any given time. An average man who at any given time has two women to choose from whom to date is by far an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:43 PM
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OP in order to change your view I'd have to know what the incentive is for a average to successful person to hang around here just to be told they're full of shit. From my perspective, discussing "game" with BPers is like describing the difference between red and green to someone who's color blind. For all the nuance they claim the red pill lacks, all their arguments are identical. Depending on what day of the week it is, RP done well is either: common sense, made up, or evil because reasons. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:37 PM
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I work with all women. Sure, they all bitch all the time. But the feminist types are noticeably less grateful for their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:06 PM
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This is why traditional women are better. You dont hear them whining about shit like this. More likely to appreciate you, less likely to give you some drivel about how they've lost attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:46 PM
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I was the funny nice guy. Everyone's friend. I was very agreeable and thought communication and expressing emotions were super important. I was really talkative, interested in others, and a generally helpful person. Now I'm an IDGAF asshole with a good career who gets shit done. I'm still everyone's friend. In fact, I think people like the asshole-side a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:51 PM
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The average person can improve themselve. The resulting person would be above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 11:07 PM
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The number of clinical procedures we do that arent supported by science is ridiculously high. Thing is, there are a few different standards of evidence, one of which is "clinical evidence" A good practitioner knows that clinical evidence is often horseshit compared to an academic peer reviewed study, but the best practitioners use a combination of clinical proof and personal experience, with some foundational science to base their decisions on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:05 PM
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Oh, I was just emphasizing the fact that she wouldn't be a romantic interest. I'd never be exclusive with a woman I haven't had sex with. If she isn't cool with that, the best she could do is friends. Truthfully, if you're a guy who gets sucked into that, you're either deeply religious, a naive gambler, or desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:58 PM
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What exactly are you asking, if I find my female friends attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:52 PM
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Lol, you can't be serious. What a bad analogy. Its bad because tenancy is a loan of a specific finite resource with a long term contract. Casual sex is immediate and infinite. It more closely follow rules of a service than a good. Here's a much better analogy: I am a hair stylist. I charge more for my haircuts. She asks why I charge more? I say its because I'm better and stand by the quality of my services. She can choose to stay and pay extra for my service or she could choose to leave. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:51 PM
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Sure, its called "friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:24 PM
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Sex is an infinite resource but thats besides the point. The point is that walking away is a negotiation tactic proven to work. I know you're trying to point out some kind of contradiction, but its just not there, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:17 PM
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Thats not really what I was getting at there. I'm talking about the utility of predictive models which if youve read anything about behavioral economics, would know that it applies extraordinarily well to large groups of people. So why we aren't allowed to say the same about sexuality is silly. This is actually what oktrends and dataclysm are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:07 PM
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Love the snark, but lets stay on topic. The fear is that youll spend your money elsewhere, not that they cant get another sale. If you're willing to walk, the first thought going through their head is if their price is too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 04:00 PM
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Ever haggle? One of the most powerful tactics is to be prepared to walk away. Then watch the people go flying down. Same behavior applies to LMR. Any other questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:52 AM
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I think it's funny that we can discover all sorts of behaviors about creatures that have been extinct for millions of years by looking at a bunch of rocks but the second you try to use a similar thought pattern with humans, the animal we know by far the most about, its suddenly impossible and bad science not to be trusted. A lot of people don't want to think we're animals, that we're something different. Yeah, ok keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:51 AM
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Behavior models were never meant to describe everyone. They're designed to make useful generalizations about the masses. One example would be something like saying people generally want fries with a burger. I find it funny that the second we take something we've been universally applying to all aspects of humanity and attempt the same with sexuality, people throw their hands up in the air and say, "But everyones different!!" That's where the special snowflake comments come from. We don't care th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:47 AM
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Its actually solidified my view that female mindedness is a specifically different thought process than male mindedness. Often times, blue pillers are in complete agreement with red pillers here but both just argue definitions and moral high ground when theyre trying to say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:01 PM
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Its a lazy explanation. You could say the same about TRP, just a bunch of random bros who want to get women, cant expect them all to know what theyre talking about now, can we? Of course, OTOH, ive always been of the opinion that TRP, TBP, and all of reddit are similar levels of losers, nerds, and spergs so I guess there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:47 PM
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Generally speaking, it really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:08 PM
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Sure, if you read it as liberally and generously as possible while making grand assumptions about all the unstated intentions of said red piller's post. Don't pretend r/thebluepill isn't full of black and white, us vs them speak. Their explanation for everything is just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:01 PM
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Right, and im saying if you can get casual sex, you can get an LTR. LTRs are much easier to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 05:40 PM
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Because having to tell her is beta. You are overtly trying to influence her emotions. An alpha wouldnt find it necessary to tell her or care to inform her if she doesnt need to know. Your actions will show her. Trust me, she will know. If you rub it in her face after the fact you have gained nothing and shown your own insecurities in the process
/r/TheRedPill17/05/17 05:32 PM
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Casual sex is more difficult to get than an LTR. An alpha can get both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 05:25 PM
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The typical response to guys wondering why they cant get laid on r/thebluepill is "because your an asshole." This implies that being nice somehow gets you laid. It doesn't. Generating sexual arousal has nothing to do with kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:54 AM
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As much as people deny it here, I've seen it argued on here many times that being nice gets women's panties wet. On top of that, one of the most commonly parroted thing on r/thebluepill is that red pillers arent getting laid because theyre not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:23 AM
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Because it's emotionally convenient for them. If you know anything about cycles of abuse, the victim will often defend their abuser. This is a defense mechanism to defend their world-view that the world they live in is just and they are doing the right thing by loving their abuser. Likewise, after their abuse, many victims will seek answers as to why. Why did I allow this? Why did I fall for it? Why did I stay so long? r/thebluepill is filled with victims trying to make sense of lives they feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 02:16 PM
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Yeaaaaaaah maybe from the womens perspective you might not notice it. Very noticeable to me, very noticeable to my average-looking friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:50 AM
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The archetype redditor is a 23yo with a bachelors in something useless, living on parents money and healthcare plan, while whining about more jobs, higher wages, free tuition, debt forgiveness, and healthcare. Their arguments are about what youd expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:48 AM
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We also subsidize the advancement of medicine for the rest of the developed world. Everyone loves their free healthcare systems without realizing europe is financially benefiting off of US drug laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 03:34 PM
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A high quality woman doesn't need a man to benefit her. She wants a man to pleasure her. Big difference. The second scenario is a lot more fun and preferable scenario. And if you don't like fun, there are plenty of other women who do. So my thoughts to it possibly not working on you are, "meh.."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 06:33 PM
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Actually, what I'm saying is a lot of the shit that gets posted in supposedly made up field reports has actually happened to me. So its funny watching all the internet feminists act like these stories HAVE to be fake. They just can't imagine a world in which RP game actually might work on a normal person. Sometimes, I used to read shit on here about something a girl would definitely hate according to the blue pillers... so I'd do it on my next date for fun. Was always extra funny seeing it work …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 05:54 PM
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Why else? For the lolz. Feminists are easy to troll with all their triggers and microaggressions. It's especially funny when they tell you everything they love about you in person, only to listen to anonymous snowflakes on the internet tell you how horrible and stupid you are. Its the funniest because personal experience makes the online SJWs look silly with their assumptions about who you are and how they got you all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 05:46 PM
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They don't depending on what threshold you cross. But consider this: Ever visit a college campus, city, or country with highly skewed gender populations? Things get a little screwy. The men have that much more options and are thus that much less likely to commit. It raises the bar for how attractive a girl has to be for him to offer commitment. I've also noticed in places like this a LOT more fierce competition amongst the women. They're more aggressive going after men and have sex earlier to ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:44 PM
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wow... not sure why I'm surprised by the level of complete dismissal in your post. Okay, have fun trolling or whatever it is that makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:14 PM
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Feel free to link some evidence any time :) https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/0*q95i3Ma24k-hxBtK.png According to OKTRENDS, the point at which males become more desirable than women is age 30. Women peak at 21 at which point they have a 40% advantage in dating pool size. At 30, men have almost 10% advantage. That's a 50% swing in men's favor over that period of time. Sure, it's not a literal wall, but that's a massive change in the supply and demand curve. I assume you have a source for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:12 PM
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Ever spend any significant time south of the US? Youd find your belief shattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:25 PM
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Sounds like you're having a nice experience fucking a bunch of dudes. That's cool, enjoy it. Are we supposed to be impressed that an average looking 29 year old woman can get casual sex if she goes looking for it? This isn't an astonishing revelation as much as you pretend it is. The wall is conceptual and has to do with market trends, of which their is plenty of data to support. Why do you think it's presented as a supply/demand type curve? If you really wanted to make a good point, you're goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 03:45 PM
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Yeah, its a formula based on the nebulous concept of prospective income. So you're legally mandated to maintain a certain income, split it with another person to subsidize their life aside from the child, and see your kid when they feel its convenient. Throw in some court bias and most likely, you're getting a raw deal. PS. feminists love to cite all sorts of very selectively worded statistics that make it seem equal. It's not. They present it the same way they presented the old 1 in 4 statistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:57 PM
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Besides, that video would be a lot harder to fake than this one. All you need to do to get that video is find the shittiest neighborhood and let the film roll. That's a socioeconomic/racial problem being conflated to male sexuality as whole. Real? Probably. Misleading narrative? Completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:47 PM
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The main thing that fucks a man over after a marriage would be a child. The chances are, you won't be the custodial parent, which means mom or a court dictates how often you see your child AND you will pay child support. The whole "for the best of the child" philosophy means that the QOL of the child and custodial parent is to be financially maintained at the expense of the QOL of the noncustodial parent. A prenup won't touch any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:50 AM
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I mean, you basically femsplained why treating men worse is a lesser moral evil because feminist interpretation of history. Its especially disingenuous when there is a well documented phenomenon that accounts for why it's okay to be sexist against men: women are wonderful effect. Prove it's not that and I'd consider an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 12:38 AM
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If you're shorter than average, having good game is a must. Physically you'll be seen as less capable so it's up to you to prove otherwise. You don't do it by showing off. You do it by showing that you're cool, comfortable, and in control, with just a hint of dominance. You have to convince her that shes reading you wrong as "the short guy" instead of possibly "the guy whos going to manhandle her and fuck her brains out." She should think, if not me, hes going to meet some other girl. If you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 02:11 PM
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I have a somewhat gendered theory about being emotional. Nothing groundbreaking but whatever. Generally, emotion is considered a more feminine trait. My theory is that, being emotional is never seen as a particularly attractive trait but is simply negated by the "women are wonderful". When I've been emotional in the past with exes, it was always seen as a sign of weakness, that I didn't have my shit together, that I was childish. The reaction was never "Wow, I'm so glad he shared his feelings!" …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 12:50 PM
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Yeah you have to consider the fact that a beautiful woman with a great personality will have a lot of options for beautiful men with great personalities. Your personality isnt going to outshine your major weaknesses unless you are top 0.1 percentile in trait. Therefore, if you want the whole package like you say, identify your biggest weaknesses and work on those. Get a good stylist. Get some better clothes. Get working out and dieting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:03 PM
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First you fake it til you make it whilst improving yourself. Goal is to eventually have enough girls around that you could easily "cut one from the team" without missing out on anything. This will really minimize the amount of shitty behavior you have to put up with. No faking it can compare to having the real thing. Its nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 10:06 PM
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Anyone who thinks behaviour shapes attraction is delusional. The thing about making giant generalizations like this is that they make you look stupid. Your stance is that behavior cannot influence attraction?! Because thats what you just said, dude. Something that's very easily demonstrated false on so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:52 PM
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it's a choice these guys make. Hahaha I knew it! It's how you think. The post could have been a single sentence, but then you can't throw in a bunch of circlejerking about yourself and the perceived evils of internet neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:48 PM
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OP is basically this: Lifting makes men more attractive. Therefore TRP is wrong because TRP is lifting plus misogyny. K.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:37 PM
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...But I swear no single thing made me more happy by itself than fucking my first 10. Dude I hear you on this one. Great experience. One of the most interesting parts for me is the perspective I gained from it. What it's like living as someone who is so attractive, but also how bad she makes other women around me look. This girl was cool and made all the fat, whiney 5s and 6s where I live look like the most spoiled little children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:31 PM
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Of course, if you took this thread at face value, you could never touch a woman in a way that would make her more attracted to you. And no doubt, that description of kino is very "spergy". There is no one size fits all way to do it and your next move is generally going to be based on her reaction. There is no kino stacking that increases your percentage points of getting laid. My general rules of thumb are this: -Always be physical with your dates. This differentiates you between someone who's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:39 PM
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Not all gold-diggers are obvious caricatures of bimbos with bad plastic surgery. They're very often intelligent, manipulative, and sociopathic. You can bet your ass they'll play the long game if they see it being worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:22 PM
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IME, gold diggers will go after potential. If they think you'll make a lot, theyll go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:12 PM
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I've never took it that way or spoke it to mean that way either. "Disney love" is simply a concept to make a point. Its an illustration of how "love" works through a feminized lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:43 PM
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Yeah this isn't a 3 to 6. It is more like a six to in 8. That's how low the bar is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 12:41 PM
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Some people are willingly total beta bitches. I know quite a few guys who are ultra "egalitarian" and have to run everything ever by their wife first to see if it's okay. I call it having no balls. They totally dote over their naggy wives until shes in a bad mood. Then their whole world stops until shes happy or they both go home pissed. These types are usually chill guys with few preferences married to pushy women who want everything done a specific way. The result is she always gets her way an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:24 PM
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Theyre basically saying they dont have the data so cant draw any conclusions. They don't have the data because it would be much more difficult to prove given the restrictions of how this information is gathered. It would be extremely difficult and would require a large scale long term longitudinal study with women and partners that dont even exist yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:49 PM
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Oh I got this one! I used to work with admissions and read a lot of essays. I've found that a lot of students will dress up their language to make everything they say sound eloquent. They will write paragraph after paragraph with large words that look like they got out of a thesaurus to sound smarter. People's vocabularies just aren't like that IRL. I used to think, "How can they write so much and yet be so lacking in content." 90% of the time it was women who did this. I don't give a fuck how m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:30 PM
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Some statistics say that more women are depressed than men, but that men choose more certain methods of suicide which is why there are more men who die by suicide. Thats because if a girls pops a few pills and calls the ER, its logged as a "suicide attempt" whether she actually tried to kill herself or not. It's often times a cry for help/attention. We also collectively put much, much less emphasis and resources into male health/mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:19 PM
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I used to think that until things I did that I thought werent even that crazy got called out for being fake. I dont think I've done anything out of this world by any means. Ive never even posted any of the crazier shit thats happened to me or my friends. But when you live it, all those FRs seem a lot more believable. That's not to say the individual analyzed the situation properly, just that the scenario isnt that far fetched, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:21 PM
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I would argue that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if someone says that the person was attractive, they were attractive to that person. The fact that people are attracted to who theyre hooking up with is reason enough to high five them or be excited for them. And again, IME RP works worst on women with low self esteem. Being aggressive wont work on an abuse victim for example or someone whos not comfortable in their own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:11 PM
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Thanks for saving me from having to read all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:41 PM
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Id agree, but it certainly doesnt stop feminists from championing this rehashed statistics when its really just another example of selectively reporting statistical manipulation to uphold a semblance of equality. Id be very interested to see a more modern study on the topic but I doubt it will ever be funded. Hell it wasnt even the focus of this study, just a random point of data they happened to track which led to later analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:20 PM
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You have a penis which automatically will make you ugly to most women. Its no different for chad. Its just that once you reach a certain level of attraction, your rate of aqcuiring new dates can be higher than your attrition. Bu that criteria, you dont have to be that attractive to have ample women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:16 PM
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Kudos to you for believing that. I am far less optimistic about humanity. When I've seen the type who believes that sort of shit IRL and realize they sound an awful lot like some reddit feminists, my faith in others doesnt extend that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:59 PM
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We all have our unique challenges. When it comes to the individual, you kind of have to learn to rock what you have. For example, a lot of indian guys are scrawny, wear plain clothes and have a basic haircut. If I were indian, id get jacked (immediately bucking a stereotype right there) and dress suave as fuck, taking advantage of that sleek dark hair, maybe grow it out and comb it over. Its a style I totally cant pull off the way I look. If I were asian, id also get jacked and think id go more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:52 PM
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I'd say the vast majority of ugly people could probably raise their SMV to a 7 with good hygiene, diet, exercise, skin care, haircut, and stylish clothes. Most people are fat, lazy, and have horrible style and hygiene. Honestly, people are simply disgusting in general. Unless you're disfigured in some way, I'd say the chances are more than likely that there's a lot of room for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:02 PM
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That's not what was being discussed though. The topic was that men receive custody when they seek it, which is a politcally biased, misleading statement based on a specific study. If you want to talk about division of labor and what's best for the child, totally different discussion and not within the scope of what this study looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:53 PM
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Can you elaborate even more? I wrote this post about my last breakup and single life. Has some interesting details about it. It kind of takes long to formulate all these thoughts and write them down in a way thats readable and makes sense to people. Took me longer to write than I care to otherwise I would post more game related stuff. https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/5ogo2z/a_rp_journey_part_2_revisited/ (Also, are there any videos/books that you recommend on this?) The most valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:39 PM
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Koel, et al, Middlesex Divorce Research Group (Amy Koel, Susan C. Clark, W.P.C. Phear, and Barbara B. Hauser), "Impact of Divorce, Single Parenting, and Step-parenting On Children," Chapter 4, "A Comparison of Joint and Sole Legal Custody Arrangements," (Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Inc., 1988, Hetherington & Arasteh, editors) This is the study. Its old but its the most complete study on the topic AFAIK and the topic hasn't been studied since. The study only deals with legal custody. According t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:51 PM
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Did you even read what I wrote? Custody is a loaded term that includes a bunch of different shit, most of which is not equal. I've quoted these statistics a number of times here but nobody gives a fuck. Too busy to go digging again now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:48 PM
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When fathers seek custody, they receive it at around the same rate mothers do. These feminists love to toss around this half-truth all the time! Yes, when fathers seek custody, they receive it at the same rate mothers do... when you include all forms of custody. The rate at which fathers get what they ask for if I remember correctly is somewhere around 60-70% less. Custody includes "legal custody" where the father has the right to make medical decisions for the child. It also includes that weeke…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:23 PM
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I mean, I could write a novel on the topic. There's so much to say. Here's a few jumbled thoughts on it. Physical presence: Your posture. Are you awkward in your movements or comfortable as in you've done this a thousand times? Can you introduce physical contact without it being forced? When you do invade her personal space, you're intentionally introducing a small amount of discomfort. Sexually charged discomfort. Can you do that and still make her feel right in that moment? Can you talk yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:38 AM
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I wasn't there I have no idea Funny, you seemed to know a whole lot about it all a few hours prior...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:28 AM
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So.. they're not aroused? Huh, could have fooled me when we were fucking...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:26 AM
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Nahh, I would get that all the time or some variation of it. "What are you doing to me?!?" "Why do I feel this way around you!?!" "You make me crazy and I can't understand why!!" The point is that when you're pushing her buttons in all the right ways, her heart rate is going to go up, she'll tremble and gasp for breath. If you do it right she'll be aroused before you've even done anything. The tingles, to me, represent the fact that a dominant presence with the right amount of cockiness and phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:21 AM
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Here are some typical quotes from women with the tingles reacting to my physically aggressive advances. "What do you do to me?!" "You're not like other guys!" "I can't describe the way you make me feel!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:42 PM
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This right here. MRP 101. Dont be a loser and a good partner will fight for you. Date a loser and you'll complain about shit I dont ever deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:19 PM
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This is a dumb gotcha type post. Men are naturally masculine in that their sexual dimorphism is generally polar to womens. They are bell curves with a small amount of overlap. Honestly, what is there to "get"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:04 PM
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Its a great question because in most of our risk management stuff they remind is not to fuck with losers. They have nothing better to do than drag you into their own shit. Having nothing to lose says a lot about your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:56 PM
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Yeah I'd be careful. You don't know these people and sometimes you get the off the deep end offended types out of seemingly chill people. In these situations I tend to take a neutral stance and let them do most of the talking to see where they take the conversation. Don't allow yourself to be lumped into any identity, just see where they take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:15 PM
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I had an interesting debate with a bp husband this weekend who was convinced these theories would not work on his ball busting wife He lets his wife tell a grown man how to behave and is afraid of standing up to her (most likely a learned conflict avoidance mechanism). Yet he went home and apparently told his wife all about it. Now she wants to debate this whole topic over dinner. So he basically taddled on you for fear of his wife. Think about the relationship dynamic they have going on here. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:31 PM
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For the same reason everyone on reddit has such a huge boner for Emma Watson around here. She's a completely plain, boyish looking girl with no curves. Reddit is generally nerdy and will generally skew nerdy in their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:01 AM
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Well it certainly doesn't stop me from getting attention, but I'm pretty outspoken, don't pull punches, and don't apologize for my beliefs. It's truthfully a pretty good way to filter out the easily offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:53 AM
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This was also something that was in our polls here. Blue pillers were generally liberal and less tolerant to opposing political views. That's consistent with my personal experience as well. I've found conservative girls more likely to shrug off our differences. Liberal girls I would have to pretend to agree with or prepare for an argument. I have a lot of liberal beliefs but can't stand the outspoken moral outrage if I say something they don't like and they tend to be really fucking passionate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:52 PM
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Dont know man, this sounds incredibly personal if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:38 PM
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The polls we did in the past showed that blue pillers are almost entirely liberal while red pillers are a mix of a few different ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:31 AM
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Yes. Assigning meaning is meaningless and thus you are free to live however you feel like whether it be superficial pleasure or for the greater good. There is a philosophy behind this called absurdism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:15 PM
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Complains about smug rants with a smug rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:05 PM
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They treat each other like butthurt infants who can't speak english. Communication isn't the problem. You learn that in grade school. People question each other's intentions based on previous actions. By overcommunicating, you are often only validating your partners negative emotions associated with your own intentions. Better to slap that shit down and demonstrate with action that the issue is a non-issue. You can acknowledge others emotions without feeding their emotional demons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:03 PM
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Meaning is best found in religion and community. And yet, everybody's religious beliefs and definitions of god are slightly different. Its still heavily, heavily filtered through your own perspective. The problem with relying on yourself to create meaning is that you are always your worst critic at the same time. Its incoherent So that's your personal problem, my man. Change your perspective or change your life. The onus is on you. It's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 06:58 PM
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Life in general is meaningless other than the meaning you create for yourself. Thats the ultimate red pill, so go out there and enjoy the shit out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:17 PM
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If I cared about karma I would post in r/relationships and tell everyone to go to therapy and communicate more how they feeeeel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:15 PM
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Yes because people with laundry lists of specifics are usually narrow minded losers who can't step out off their comfort zone. You grow with someone, not find them already grown. She doesnt like anime? Fuckin A, if shes cool you can sit her down and show her some cool shows and guess what? Now she likes anime!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 12:42 AM
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I've never met a woman who seemed aware of the red pill but have had plenty of shit happen that seemed straight out of a TRP fantasy field report. I've typically passed on women with low self esteem or those who are easily offended. There are much better uses of my time than dealing with other people's fragile egos. I've passed on a number of women who were too feminist for my liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:22 PM
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A lot of stereotypes come from personal experience with the masses. There is a huge indian population here. Typically, their social skills are far below average, their sense of style is nonexistent, and their personal hygiene is bad. Indian people around here smell bad far more often than any other ethnicity. Of course, more americanized indians dont typically have these problems but there are so many first and second gen indians here that the stereotypes persist. Its an uphill battle against th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 11:37 AM
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Marriage is declining because society is getting richer, less religious, and divorce is becoming easier. Men "opting out" is just a symptom of a much bigger phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:10 PM
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Why should anyone care what people on the internet call it? Just like "dread game", "abundance mentality", and "plates", there is a lot of internet lingo that is probably not the best representative name for an idea. Doesn't mean I give a shit enough to make a big deal or campaign to change that. Last minute resistance is a particular idea, describing a girl who's basically naked and already completely into it. I've encountered it plenty of times and know exactly what they are talking about with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:39 AM
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Because the term was originally coined by PUAs who did it in a more literal sense. A lot of RP terminology is taken from PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:27 PM
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Yeah, apparently I've been raped like 20 to 30 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:24 PM
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You have to learn that no matter what, they're ate always an infinite amount of people that are better than you but at the same time, an infinite amount of people worse than you as well. Who cares if you're not the best. Its irrelevant as it's impossible to be number one. You and only you are responsible for maximizing your own happiness. There is no shortcut, just the work you put in. That information should be freeing because you have the power to change your position in life, not depressing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:03 PM
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Its only ever a few different posts cycled over and over again. -RP is misogyny, abuse, etc. -Red pillers are stupid, autistic, or the losers who never learned as a kid -Red pillers deserve to be lonely while nice good people have no problem getting laid -This random red piller thinks there are elephants living on the moon. Red pillers, why do you all keep saying their are elephants on the moon?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:44 AM
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what else am I supposed to think? Pretty good cue that you should be watching for behavior consistent with alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:32 AM
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This post legitimately made me lol. The idea that there's men out there with a worldview you don't like really must get you worked up, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:29 AM
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It's not the most secure of things. Shit goes missing from those places -- I've seen it happen a million times. Except you never leave the venue without your winter jacket here. Granted that sometimes someone is super drunk and forgets there jacket or somebody has an identical jacket, mistakes are pretty uncommon. And if it does, its typically your fault. And what if it's the kind of venue that doesn't have that facility Because its cold AF here, everywhere has that shit. Everyone has multiple w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:56 AM
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Very ironic guess considering the content of your OP. Ever think maybe you wouldn't have those feelings towards men if you just understood them better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:32 AM
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Attraction is power, it's how you use that power that defines you. To play devils advocate I wouldn't even say that. Its not how you use your power, its how people think you use your power that defines you. Here's the million dollar question. If I was entirely honest and consistent in how I treated them and women were lining up begging for more, how abusive could I have possibly been?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:56 PM
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So on a person who doesn't drink a lot that's a BAC in the neighborhood of 0.3 You wouldn't notice that? Nothing would stand out as weird to you or potentially alarming?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:26 PM
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Whatever makes you think that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:07 PM
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The slight you lose in social status is nothing compared to the personal validation you feel sticking to your convictions. To some extent I agree with you, but then again our personal convictions are a product of the world we grew up in and often don't make sense. For example, when I was a virgin, I wanted to lose my virginity to a girl I was in love with and make it special, all that jazz. I vetted a particular type of girl, made sure we were all in love and mentally ready and all that. It was …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:06 PM
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Well nobody explicitly says it so it's easy to miss. It's what they don't say that's most telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:28 PM
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We are all a culmination of our experiences, and letting those experiences define our future actions is weak behavior. Here is a fairly central RP idea: You can only control your own thoughts and actions. With others, you only have the information in front of you to go on to predict what they will or will not do. Changing yourself is a lot easier than changing someone else or hoping they change. RPers should learn that if the game is unfair, don't play and demand better. Soo... basically abundan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:11 PM
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From this sub in particular? I learned how strong people's urges are to moralize anything they don't like. If someone is a loser, they MUST have done something to deserve it. If they're a winner, its because they are a great person. That's a pretty central theme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:02 PM
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with the effort they put into those petty N counts I think they won't admit either. The only reason I ever talk about this is because people just won't let it die. They INSIST that your past has nothing to do with who you are, but of course only when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:49 PM
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I'm just saying your 'omg so stupid cause it's cold!!' line doesn't make sense. Its not difficult or expensive to check a coat. If they are worried about losing there coat, yes, I'm going to think they're stupid or generally irresponsible. Sure comfort is a reasonable argument and sometimes you're not walking far or waiting in a long line. But when the weather is "A homeless guy died tonight" cold, it most certainly doesn't speak well for their intelligence. Would rather be cold for a few minute…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:16 PM
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I don't put any thought into it. The whole process is fairly automatic in my brain and functions pretty well. Where thought goes in is when people ask a question and you try to formulate these thoughts into words. I wouldn't say "dicey," but yeah, fair enough. If I see a 100 pound girl downing 7 beers with no visible effect and tells me her a dad is an alcoholic, do you think that's dicey?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:02 PM
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I totally agree with all the coat hassle and in certain situations, I agree it is totally reasonable. On the other hand there's certainly no shortage of vain idiots going out in a blizzard wearing basically nothing and waiting in the hour line that always exists at said club. That's what coat-check, planning ahead, and taking ubers are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:59 PM
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Back to my original post: Sum of its parts. Kind of like how you figure out anything about someone. You observe, witness all the shit they say and do, see who they associate themselves with and what their background is, and then you'll be able to insinuate a lot more about them. There is no automatic slut-tell unless they explicitly tell you. Just indicators that you're getting involved with someone potentially dicey.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:53 PM
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If there's "always" one-sided sexual tension then I guarantee you that tension doesn't actually exist. Not every gay man you talk to is going to want to fuck you. Although a LOT of gays have come onto me over the years, way to completely miss the point. The point is not that they're interested in dating me. The point is that when one persons sexual orientation is towards what you are and the others is not, the relationship has an uneven dynamic. It's often awkward and an obstacle to friendship a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:50 PM
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What their relationships is like with their family will clue you in to a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:32 PM
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Yeah, NYC gets pretty cold. I usually get the same weather just a few days before/after. The windchill and lack of sun is what kills you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:31 PM
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If a girl was walking around in a miniskirt in a grocery store around here, yes she would stand out in a bad way. In the context of sluts, skimpy outfits, and cold weather, anybody around here would know exactly what I'm talking about, dumb drunk hoes bar hopping. Its common enough that youd have to be blind not to notice this where I live. The important point is not the alcohol, its the stupid. These are stupid people and there's a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:25 PM
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Personally, from past friendships with gay men, they definitely tend to fizzle out in similar ways to the female friendships. In a strange way, they often have a "female" perspective on things. Its hard to explain this but the way they often communicate is generally not something I identify with. Its like, the conversation never grabs my attention enough to take off. I'm certainly a lot less likely to open up my uninhibited self to a gay guy. Its like talking to a really ugly girl. I'm not inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:49 PM
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Slut tells are usually the sum of a lot of little details about a persons personality. Their openness on sexuality, drugs, family, and friends will tell you a lot. Impulsive behavior is one I see commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:30 PM
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I live in an environment that's regularly somewhere below -10 C in the winter. Its very common here to see women with skimpy dresses and no jacket. A very decent chunk of the US gets very cold. Never seems to stop drunk hoes from prancing around though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:27 PM
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Buff and socially suave, or some are just extremely good looking. Others were frat members or star athletes. They always had something that made them completely stand out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:48 PM
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Very interesting question that I haven't thought about from that angle. People in general are subject to a perspective bias that makes them look better at the expense of the rest of the world. This is an easy out for those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 04:46 PM
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Guess youve never encountered the ambitious gold digger. Ive seen quite a bit of that. Very intelligent, expert liars and actors, extremely ambitious. Human beings are stepping stones and yet, good at pulling peoples heart strings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 06:24 PM
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Top 1% is just when the tap opens and women are throwing themselves at you with minimal effort. If youre top 20 and have good game, you'll have a field day out there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 01:06 PM
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You're assuming they will arrive at that conclusion and that the conclusion would be helpful to them. Most people use this as an opportunity to feel sorry for themselves, not reach some inner zen of emotional control. So they realize their ego is the problem, whats next? Damn ego! If I was only more aware of my feelings I wouldnt have seemed so insecure. I would ask the question what is more important, realizing the source of your insecurity or working on your public speaking until the insecurit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:55 PM
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Maybe not in a philosophical sense but it fits the definition. Besides, doesn't make my argument any less valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:47 PM
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Of all the cases you could have made, this is a terrible argument. The guys release was due to an extremely fucked up, Brazilian government, which is riddled from top to bottom with corruption, fucking up legal paperwork. What a joke of an example. Also, for every Brock Turner, there are a handful of female equivalent cases. Those just never make the national headlines because its a woman. Must be nice being a woman and only having 1 or 2 fucked up rulings a year to bitch about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:28 PM
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Truthfully, we could honestly use a lot less of that. Most men are overthinking it. When should I call her? Was I too aggressive? Too passive? Did I say the right thing? If you want introspection, you can go to menslib or better yet, srsmen and see how well those guys are doing with women. They're so crippled by anxiety or the idea that they are coming off creepy or misogynistic that they're practically paralyzed. We've heard all the bullshit rules we should follow to keep women feeling safe and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:16 PM
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But I think the "hard truth" for the red side is that women aren't these awful people who just have a long long list of flaws compared to men and no redeeming qualities. Many hold this position: Women in general have a long list of flaws as do men. Men are pretty shitty, just generally in different ways. Since I'm not interested in dating men, I do not care or talk about male flaws. Besides, its not like I didn't hear about about aaall the ways in which men are shitty throughout my youth and sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 02:05 PM
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Its not that hard to be in the top 20. Most people are just that disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:23 AM
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If you arent legally married with kids and a whole bunch of other legal and financial liabilities tying you together, then most would. Edit: also, as has been pointed out, once things are "beyond repair," its nice to hit the ground running when you're single again. Learning game while you're still together will make your wife more attracted but still prepare you for worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:14 AM
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Depends on the environment where you live. I've seen some extremely masculine and even macho country boys who are a lot better Christians than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:42 PM
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I've spent some time reading there. Not nearly as loony as TBP or most feminism subs. Mostly seems like a place for feminine men to discuss why they struggle. They love battling toxic masculinity, which their lives seem to revolve around. They often approach male issues from a feminine perspective, and often just sound like men who're flunking out of the SMP asking for some form of affirmative action "gender points." Its everyone hold hands and sing kumbaya liberal idealism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:29 PM
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I don't think that all feminists hate men, but in my experience they're more likely to practice a type of anti-male casual sexism than a non-feminist. Feminism is a political power grab based on manufactured outrage. As a whole, it sells a narrative of women as victims and men as perpetrators of the crime. That in itself, is a hateful ideologically driven narrative. If you don't think so, look at some of the metrics in which women completely and utterly outperform men and how much feminism will …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 12:39 PM
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I've made a very successful personal and professional life pretty much ignoring advice from people who think like you. That and you write novels essentially hamstering people with different opinions than you into comical little boxes. Why should I want to understand your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:33 PM
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Its the "get better friends excuse". Except this world where sex is free like candy and you just need to ask and recieve doesnt exist as far as any person I know. The closest thing is traveling to a city with a lot of single women, a party town, or out of the US. In the world I live, its much easier to just develop good game. Edit: to clarify, the OPs perspective amounts to "priveleged city-goer" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:12 PM
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Didnt read your post, but personal success makes me believe it, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:32 PM
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Only if you believe that equal outcome is perfect equilibrium for humanity. Most people have differing definitions of equality, man and woman. Feminism tends to have a very specific definition and want everyone to live by it while defining what is morally good or bad. Its "theory" for a reason. While worthy of discussion, basing policy and society on it is ideological and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:29 PM
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Traveling to hook up with girls is easy but gets expensive really fast. Hardly a practical strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:00 AM
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On the contrary, the more successful I was with women, the less likely I was to deal with aloof women because when presented with options, it was most simple to take the path of least resistance that got me what I wanted. There was always a cooler and lower maintenance girl right around the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:06 AM
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Truthfully? I talk about this shit all the time with my SO and other women. Find one who isnt easily offended and they'll usually agree or contribute to the discussion, as long as it's not put in offensive terms. Knowing your audience is super important. Around here it only takes one particularly triggered accusation to severely damage my career. Its easy to lawyer up and file charges, which are particularly damaging even if there is no chance in winning. Their strategy is usually to prolong the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:40 PM
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Future space boobs is a feminist. I called you out because your commentary was a poor defense of a feminist double standard. Dont care how you identify.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 03:50 PM
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This is the internet. People talk without a filter here because of anonymity. IRL, I don't go around talking about this shit unless someone else brings it up. Want to talk about TRP without offending someone? Ask leading questions. About half the time a total stranger reply and will fill in the blanks themselves with some RP type of thinking. People who arent easily offended are generally pretty open about it minus the "tone" youd find here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 01:32 PM
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This is called poor management and is talked about all the time in successful business environments. Nothing to do with gender. Everything to do with people not fit for leadership roles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 01:24 PM
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Its a terrible argument. Because they both have an evopsych roots theyre the same shit? Feminism and MRA both believe in equal rightsat their core. Guess thats the same shit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 12:55 PM
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So the feminist claims that we should be labeling groups based on its members. When I give examples of how this is a poor idea, you jump straight to the "isms" accusation. What a surprising rebuttal completely free of identity polititcs. Triggered by your own double standards. I couldn't even parody this, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 12:50 PM
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I dont care about facts in this regard, only results. The "facts" are merely interpretations of why said results exist. It just takes a more concrete form here for the sake of debate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:50 PM
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Fewer posts from whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:35 PM
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Hahaha, what a convenient argument for a feminist to make, ignoring all the nutter feminists all over the internet defending rich "spread the wealth" socialists and minority crime in the US. As long as it's anti-rich people or white male its not considered part of an ideology, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:33 PM
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Sure do, and its beta as all hell! TBP conveniently either ignores or very often even relishes in the fact that TRP frequently lay the smackdown on their own posters for being full of shit or completely poor application.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:25 PM
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Sure, they saw women as too challenging and said, "No thanks!" Their whole philosophy revolves around avoiding adversity, rather than overcoming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:23 PM
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Because their logic is much more similar to incels. Theyre typically total bungholes who shun the most important concept of success: People who succeed are calculated risk takers and have failed many, many more times than people who don't succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:42 PM
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But you also don't post whiny rants about peoples opinions hurting your feelings. I think you'd have to be retarded to believe AWALT literally and sure enough, there are plenty of retarded people with access to the internet. On the other hand, I certainly see the utility of having that saying. I trust my SO completely but that doesn't mean I'm going to give her the password to my bank account or my social security number, or leave any important shit lying around that I don't want her having acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:58 PM
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First of all, BP LOVES to conflate incels and MGTOWS with TRP. Completely different conclusions on life drawn from similar roots. Secondly, for the ranty bullshit that does exist, it is the same. But BP likes to think that TRP is all socially retarded when it is more like this: A bunch of ranty neckbeards and legbeards are wasting their days making fun of a bunch of ranty neckbeards who're trying to work on themselves or talk about their personal experiences. It's essentially socially inept peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:38 PM
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Honestly? What swayed me the most was results. Shit just worked exactly how it was stated it would. It was really stark in the areas where the blue pill would say the exact opposite would happen. Dreaded the shit out of my ex. What happened? She fucked me more, got in better shape, and started "falling back in love". Later in life, spun plates, ignored them when it didn't suit my needs, and told them I wanted nothing serious. Did they leave to find someone who appreciates them? Nahh, they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:56 PM
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You can especially taste the salt when they write a ranty long-winded post here with sweeping generalizations based on an off hand remark from a random red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 01:42 PM
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Never have I ever read somebody's opinions on the internet and felt despair like you describe. I find it funny that this is a common sentiment on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 12:15 PM
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A lot of posters on TRP are more addicted to the outrage porn and incapable of actually getting of their ass to improve themselves. Like the blue pill, they find enjoyment in blaming others for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 12:11 PM
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Sounds like a pretty beta suggestion if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:01 AM
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AFBB is describing a woman who is cashing in her chips because she's at the wall and looking for a stable future. Its typically bouncing from a more attractive to a less attractive partner for stability and financial gain, using sex as a means to an end. Fucking sluts and marrying a virgin has no financial component and is often going from less attractive to more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:59 AM
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Well the devil is in the details, isn't it? I shouldn't have to qualify every comment I make with each individual unique RP element involved, this isn't a field report or write up for an audience. Nobody is here in good faith so why waste my time getting into it. The question was why a woman would want a RP man. The answer in my case is because I'm high value, put a lot of effort into my value, and if she isn't going to please me, she knows some other woman eagerly would. Even the retards over a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:48 AM
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Speaking for myself here: -I'm attractive. I eat right and exercise frequently as my health is important to me. Im aware of my style and constantly looking to improve my wardrobe -I'm a leader. Successfully running a high income business at a young age. I'm organized and disciplined. I juggle a lot of shit at once and still manage to have a lot of free time. Not only dies money free us up for more fun, but sometimes you need to put your head down and get shit done. -I'm cultured and socially cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 06:26 PM
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Good god! You guys are killing me with these n-count questions! How do you know anything about someone? If we take BPers word on this one, its literally impossible to deduce anything about another human being unless they explicitly tell you, apparently. How do you do it? You open your eyes and fucking observe them! All their behavior adds up to who they were and are. Their appearance, self confidence, what they do, where they go, and who they're friends with are all a part of who they are. How d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:36 AM
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This. Attractive women have no need for victim Olympics in general. Most of them already figured out how to get by just fine in the world. OTOH, you occasionally run into the particularly cunty hot variety every once in a while. Attractive with a got mine and fuck everyone else attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 02:12 PM
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Hahahahahahahahaha I called it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:06 PM
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I read your post. You're basically leading on your female friends and treating them like semi girlfriends. Get some different male friends if you want to have "talk" friends without the complication.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:31 PM
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I'd love to see an actually response to this list aside from, "Nuh uh!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 01:05 PM
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Protesting the infancy of men organizing to discuss male specific issues has been frequent. Protesting the men's rights movie is popular to hate on on the blue pill right now. Opposing shared parenting laws is another big one. These are just a few examples off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 12:58 PM
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I'm in my early thirties and no question it is right now. Not only is my access to women much less than it wasn't college but I get much more attention than I did in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 12:19 PM
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Yes. Ignore the daily mocking of shia on the donald, the crossover in jokes, political ideology, and users crossposting between the two forums, not to mention the donald posters who personally contributed to the flag stealing and posted hourly updates on it. Also, since when is direct involvement required for it to be funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:07 PM
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Ive been saying this for quite a while. Emotionally damaged people with an axe to grind and nothing to do. Sure, it describes a lot of red pillers as well, but that's not a forum dedicated to making fun of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 11:25 PM
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https://getriced.com/will-not-divide-us-capture-flag-edition/ Basically Shia set up a 24/7 streaming camera where people could show up to protest donald trump. You could check the stream any time of day to see an assortment of misfits from college kids with nothing to do, to unemployable hippies drumming on trash cans and singing out of key. Trump protesters slowly started showing up and subtley trolling them with pepe memes. Shia and co lost their shit quite easily, shia got arrested for assaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 07:52 PM
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Neither are as funny as the donald. The epic trolling of Shia LaBeouf has been one of the funniest things to happen in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 06:38 PM
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Didn't watch the whole video but he's probably talking about the massive economic expansion that happened after women starting entering the workplace. Cost of living has gone up and what was once easily done in a family with a SAHM requires dual income families or being rich. All that shit is tied together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 05:00 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:02 PM
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It's well documented that people are generally biased towards people who like them back. And this doesn't extend to attraction because you think Angelina Jolie is hot? Btw, when you're hooking up with girls that hot, she all of a sudden isn't a 10/10 goddess anymore. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 12:41 PM
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Men are so used to doing this because they are so used to scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:30 AM
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A lot of people's standards for attractiveness is "The best looking member of the opposite sex who is likely to be attracted to me" It's ego preserving as they are able to attract their type because their type is a 10 in their head due to male hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:04 AM
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I'm saying that N count alone isn't enough to tell the character or motivations of a person. Nobody is being judged in a vacuum. N-count is and always has been an existing variable in judging someone, like many other variables. That being said, one variable can indeed be enough to tell someone is not right for you. A woman who's had 500 dicks and I'd consider dating simply does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 01:59 AM
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I remember that thread. It was pretty much what you said plus he was getting criticized for completely over reading the situation. That girl was not into him. Dude was a fake alpha puffing out his chest at little kids. He was criticized for poor application AND being a shitty friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:25 PM
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What does that have to do with echo chambers? Because there is not an equal chance that OP lives in a conservative or liberal area. I was making an assumption about where he lives. He most likely lives in a strongly liberal area based strictly on percentages. The 50/50 areas on the coast are much less populated. You're completely hung up on what I think of politics in California. All I care about is whether my guess is right. Statistically, it was a good guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 12:37 AM
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I like how you called me ignorant and labeled me at the same time, all based on your personal definition of what constitutes an echo chamber. Coastal California voted over 70% Clinton. Call it what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:45 PM
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Preeeeetty sure those kinds of men existed long before the manosphere This has always been my first thought when people point out all the Red Pillers in the wild. There was an article posted on TBP yesterday from some website on TRP. They listed a bunch of exredpillers "experiences" including people who've been members for 6-10 years. You know, before it existed. It's almost the same guy every time. Non-existent self-esteem, hated women, in therapy for life, list of horrible experiences with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:02 PM
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The dude lives in a liberal coastal city. Odds are pretty good he lives in an echo chamber somewhere in Coastal California, which heavily favored clinton. It was an excellent guess if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:55 PM
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Haha while I somewhat agree with this, he has created a lot of the environment in which they have done so. Whether or not it's intentional, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:37 PM
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Yeah, a lot of models aren't even that good looking, they just have the right body to accentuate an outffit. You can cake enough makeup onto any face to make it acceptable for a stage show
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:16 PM
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I wonder if these people ever think about why the "racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic" candidate got more of the latino vote, female vote, black vote, AND TRIPLE the muslim vote that his predecessor got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:17 PM
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Dude, you live in the coastal US. I'd guess California which is as big an echo chamber as my super liberal University. I live in the rust belt, in a liberal stronghold for that matter. My state voted trump. It was shocking because its historically democrat. The shit on the news does not reflect reality here. Blaming everything on racism and xenophobia is a fucking joke. In reality, the dudes nationalism just resonated with people. I remember leading up to the election the polls had Clinton winni…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:20 PM
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Or they are simply anti ignorance and against blind hatred. Only when it supports their agenda. It's so painfully obvious these days. The right wing argument is that every Muslim is a backwards fundamental one although they are the minority. You realize this is a narrative created by the leftwing media. Trump is just a convenient villain to rally against. There's a huge Muslim population where I live and it didn't stop anybody here from openly supporting Trump. These people dont give a fuck abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 01:55 PM
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Hahaha. This is why it was so hilarious when Donald Trump started really taking the spotlight. Best thing he ever did was expose liberals hypocrisy. The news right now is so hilariously transparent in their bias. In order to be anti trump, they were pretty quick to become pro-islam, which shows they dont' give a damn about women's rights, just their own first world problems. Intersectional feminism in all its anti straight white male rage while propping up islam has been hilarious to watch. Iron…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 01:28 PM
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Well the thread was about a borderless utopia. This hypothetical country where life is so great would either be overrun with immigrants or pick and choose who gets in. Like, slowly allow specific amounts in based on how many resources we think we can share. You know, kind of like how we do it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:07 AM
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Protesting isn't particularly what I'm talking about. You don't realize how good you have it if that's what came to mind when you read my post. Protests barely affect western society. Look at places like sub-saharan Africa. The real shit holes of the world don't react the way our world does and they don't change the way ours do. You pretty much have to wait for the old generation to die off and hope the new one is a little better. I hate to pull the "starving kids in africa" on you but the reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:48 AM
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There will always be winners and losers and there will always be opportunists who take advantage of the situation. The socialist dream won't happen in our lifetimes or our children's lifetimes unless we end up curing aging. In fact, we'll probably cure aging long before this "dream" is realized. A lot of ideologues don't realize how good we have it and how bottomless the pit of misery the world is for the vast majority of human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:43 AM
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Yeah, they might look like that guy a little bit in the face here but add a beer gut and you're almost there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 07:10 PM
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Well it's the same here. Girls like that are not too uncommon. Problem is they're unhealthy, missing some teeth, uneducated, and usually have a few kids by the time they hit 20. Still super good looking but they come with their strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 07:07 PM
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My undergrad was like this as well. If shes hot, shes got a boyfriend or a swarm of men around her. That being said my school was well known for having ugly girls. It was the smart school so lots of bookworms, JAPs, indians, and asian girls. The joke was that the SMP at my school was graded on a curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:50 PM
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I think in general the women overrated these girls, especially the morbidly obese ones. I'd give them a 1 assuming a 0 is possible for the horribly disfigured. On the other hand I think they did the best job rating girl 7 because they noticed all the photo tricks that women use to look better and hide their defects, like the my space angle. I bet that girl is a fair bit less attractive than most guys think in a straight on shot without all that makeup. OTOH, I think it's interesting that they ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:22 PM
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Dude, the thing about cup sizes is that women are more likely to list their shit online as "D" because it's the most appealing size to have for men. On a real girl, a D is like the size that her bra is pushing out to to make her look good in a shirt. Most of those porn stars with D tits are usually more like an DD or DDD. Its marketing to avoid making their books look abnormally big. If I had to guess, that girl 4 is closer to a E or G (dddd)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:14 PM
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"Can I seduce this one? Looks difficult, but I like a challenge. Let's see what happens." Probably begins to feel like a game. Haha it does to me and I'm not going to lie, it is fun. But it's not necessarily because the individual is particularly exciting, just a slightly different challenge. A different level on the same game you've been playing. I'm not saying not to have multiple sex partners. Personally I like variety in life and think too much of anything is going to spoil you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 08:39 PM
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Well it goes back to my original comment. Human beings aren't particularly unique. The more of them you've experienced, the more of the same shit you see and the less likely you are to share that novel connection. Not saying you can't, just that the same shit won't still give you the butterflies. From my own personal experience, it was really shocking, funny and kind of disappointing to learn that the exact same rehashed lines and routine worked exactly the same on each girl I dated. It made the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:17 PM
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I gave you a perfect example and posed a followup question. Not acceptable because it doesnt fit your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:57 PM
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Its more than that, as the brain experiences more, what becomes novel or "worth remembering" changes. I explicitly remember most of my first sexual experiences, despite them mostly being very forgettably dull in comparison to my sex life now. Its the same reason people seek filthier porn to get off. The desensitization is the brain adjusting to novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:26 PM
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Those are all extremely complex topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:20 PM
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Hahaha are you for real? Thanks for defining my beliefs for me and ignoring everything I said. You really convinced me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:17 PM
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Its an everything thing. You remember the regulars because they're significant and have a more meaningful impact on your life, but your not going to remember that particular cup of cappucino you had a week ago. Chances are if you remember it, its because of something different about it, like they drew a particularly interesting design in the foam.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:11 PM
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Its a well documented human phenomenon, how novelty impacts the human brain. Ever notice people with self professed high partner counts sometimes can't remember their hookups or the people they hooked up with? When fucking someone is just a "Tuesday" to you, your brain doesn't place a lot of importance on the experience and deletes the irrelevant information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:13 PM
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You know what? When I was a kid I had this super black and white view of morality and the cheater is always a dirt-bag and shit like that. As I got older, I realized that there are a lot of shades of grey and A SHITTON of reasons why couples stay together besides love. There is very often a shit ton of layers of complexity to the relationship and who's to blame for what. I think you should always strive to have a relationship in which you don't feel the need to cheat. That being said, shit happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:44 PM
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Hence why someone who's had a lot of partners can have trouble pair bonding. Once you've been through the motions with so many people, you start to notice the patterns in which they're not unique. That special feeling of finding common ground becomes mechanical and mundane. Most of the time people would rather experience new things together than one person experience something new while the other is just there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:33 PM
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This. When I was single it only depended on what their value was to me. No sex on first date? Well was the chemistry particularly good? Was she particularly hot? Does she seem like she'll be good in bed? Does she have any irritating tendencies that I don't feel like dealing with? There was a line so if they weren't worth it for one reason or another, next. One girl I was hooking up with was this super sexy fitness instructor with a rockin body. She was completely horny slut and the sex was good.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:25 PM
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Part of the reason why dating foreign women is a lot of fun. Everything is metaphors and wordplay. Simple words are poetry because it's in a different language.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:02 PM
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I only think I'm nice in that people tell me this all the time. I'm strict, stingy, and opinionated. But I'm also consistent, reasonably fair, and willing to give people more time of day than most. Of course I do thousands of dollars in charity work but that's typically relatively thankless aside from some grateful recipients in comparison to the shit I actually charge for. In fact, the most thankful are typically the ones who spend the most money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:42 PM
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I think it's sad that men feel like they have to completely hide their emotions and be jerks to women to have success. RPers who believe this will end up on r/exredpill. Autistic kids who didn't get it before and won't get it after anyway. If you only read the cartoon character BP version of RP, you'll believe this. If you actually read the source material you'd know not to trust the average idiot on the internet who thinks they know something. RP doesn't say you have to be a jerk. RP outlines w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:34 PM
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This question is asked in various forms every one in a while. As I've stated before, I didn't have trouble with women prior to RP. I stumbled into RP as a hail Mary pass to solve a shitty personal problem. Not only did it completely solve my problems when nothing else did, but it conveniently helped a LOT in my worklife. I have an amazing reputation with behavioral management. I also went from a guy that gets the occasional here and there date, to practically beating them off with a stick. Its h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:22 PM
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Its because most good actions don't give you that much credit. They give you very little, but the bad actions take away a LOT of credit in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:45 PM
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This is talked about quite a bit in the book MMSL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:43 PM
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Accusing someone of "Mansplaining" is designed to end a discussion when you don't want to engage the actual content of the discussion. It's a tactic that is overused by fragile little egos to avoid confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:34 PM
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I tilhink a 5 is spot on for that one. Legitimately curious, what do you see in this girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:04 PM
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Same, I would generally go with his lower ratings. Pretty spot on analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:03 PM
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The photo selection is a hell of a lot better than the last person who did this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:49 PM
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Like if a bitch talks too much you'd just next her? Or if she did your laundry just the way you liked it, you might keep her for a bit longer? I kind of did this. The bar is set somewhat low to be a high value man. Its not that difficult these days to have more women than you have time for. Its why true abundance is so important in the vetting process. I personally find beauty a lot more common in women than an attractive personality. So first, you weed out the ugly ones and you're left with a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 04:45 AM
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Aside from what is already mentioned here I'd say: Someone who happily adds a lot of value to your life, while taking little. That's compatibility right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 04:35 AM
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From The CDC: At the same BMI, women tend to have more body fat than men. Oh. I really wonder what kind of healthcare worker you are. I hope you're not a nurse. I'd like to think a nurse would know the difference between body fat percentage and BMI. Unfortunately mindless nurses are a dime a dozen. You can't possibly be in public health, because then you'd know why BMI has actual utility, or maybe mathematically why women will have more body fat at the same BMI. It's pretty simple so what's your…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:40 PM
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while the betas get everything from her, her best! Lol, it's still funny every time I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:23 PM
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Maybe has something to do with it but there's a lot going on. Women reach maturity faster in childhood. They're also subject to more social attention earlier in life. As soon as they hit puberty they're already dealing with it. First time a woman came onto me I was probably around 18. We're also feminizing the education system on top of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:44 PM
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Well it helps when you're the boss. Their job is basically to make my life easier. The women are easy, they all love me but I do miss some male bonding. Maybe thats why I fuck around on reddit at work sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:34 AM
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Hah well yeah can't say I've ever had that situation with an identical twin and of course knowing you personally would help to determine your intentions behind the question but it IS a frequent type of shit test, "Do you think x woman is hot?" I've had multiple women pull that type of shit. One ex in particular was all about brutal honesty and we frequently discussed things about the opposite sex that we were just curious about. She was pretty cool about it for the most part, except when she out…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:31 AM
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I've had/have a number of female friends over the years. They tend to come and go due to a combination of lack of shared interest, conflict between them and girlfriends, and weird attachment issues with second intentions. They tend to require more maintenance and more complications arise. The friends who stick around are the lowest of low maintenance because I just don't have the time for everyone. I don't seek out female friendships although I appreciate the alternative perspective. On the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:46 AM
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Oh for god's sake, you're just looking for something to disagree with. A man with a bmi of 25 will typically be somewhere around 25% body fat. A woman with a bmi of 25 will be around 32% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:41 AM
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It's a loaded question designed to provoke a response. Its a shit test. You fail by playing the game. You say "no" and she complains, calls you a liar, or uses the answer to inflate her ego in some twisted way. You say yes and it hurts her feelings. I would have laughed and responded with, "What do YOU think?" After she answers and asks again for my response, I'd probably still refuse to answer and teasingly accuse her of being jealous, while ramping up some physical escalation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:10 AM
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I'm so confused. BMI is measured the same way on men and women. What are you talking about? Overweight in a man is 25% body fat. In a woman it's 32%. The "overweight" BMIs for men and women are different to account for fat distributions in men and women. An average 20 pounds overweight man is 5'10' 190lbs with a body fat that has gone from 25% to 32%. For women it's 5'4, 160 pounds, and from 32% to 40% body fat. A woman who's 20lbs overweight is actually fatter than a man who's 20lbs overweight …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:39 AM
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I'm explaining why women bear weight better than men. Which is why "overweight" is defined as a higher fat percentage for women than for men. Your medical facts 101 is built into the very definition of "overweight". You said 20 pounds overweight looks good on women. Thats around 160 pounds on the average 5"4' woman. You think that's all going to the boobs and butt?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:03 AM
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Your original point was that 20 extra pounds looks good on women, citing general fat distributions and thick celebrities as evidence. Anyone with eyes knows that fat distributes differently on men than women. Yeah, we've all seen what 20 extra pounds looks like. Very few women will wear that weight well, especially at the female average height of 5'4. Here's what that looks like, btw: http://www.mybodygallery.com/search.html?gender=female&height=163&age=21&weight=73&pantSize=any&shirtSize=any&bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:31 AM
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I would venture to say that 99.9% of all casual sexual encounters result not from a man just being uniquely attractive but from him successfully engaging in seduction Behavior. What do you think? I would agree with this. The thing a lot of blue pillers refuse to believe is that you can actually say and do the right thing to get a girl to want to fuck you. You just can't convince every girl to fuck you. I would wager that 99% of the ones who would consider fucking you require properly buttering t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:52 AM
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It's a thing, I just pulled up the first source but you can find a million sources. Men and women store fat differently. Women store it in breasts, hips, and thighs. Men store it in their lower abdomen. Cool. I don't care. A lot of these "thick" celebrities have had work to look that way. It's way more common than you'd think because it comes off more natural looking. I work closely with plastic surgery and see this shit all the time. Why is it controversial that rich women get cosmetic work don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:48 AM
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Sounds like a nice neighborhood. Point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:37 AM
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Unrealistic for everyone, probably. But when more people are incredibly unhealthy rather than healthy, we have a pretty big problem. Being in shape is not difficult at all if you know what foods to look for. Most people just don't or don't care to know. Reality is human beings are kind of stupid and lazy. They'd rather have a pill to fix their problem than invest in changing their lifestyle. It probably requires several hours of dedication a day. At first it might. You can get a very quality wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:35 AM
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Culture and education are pretty intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:30 AM
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For most women, all it takes is for the guy to be fit, not be ugly, have a full head of hair, nicely groomed, and not a druggie and there you go. I'm extroverted and super social. Had a decent amount of female friends growing up. Apparently I should have been swimming in pussy all my life. Weird how it only happened after using all the PUA type shit that women supposedly hate. No, most men have several girls interested and attracted to them. The bottom 20%(what red pillers perceive most men to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:27 AM
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If the new standards are impossible to reach I see women who seem to have no problem reaching said standards in the gym all the time. They aren't impossible nor even difficult. Just requires a lot of education on lifestyle, something a lot of people will likely never get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:14 AM
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Good point, might as well just give up and hope everyone else gets fat too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:12 AM
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So my risk factor doesn't exist because yours does? Still don't get where you're going with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:08 AM
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Yeah, its a lot of things. Food deserts are shitty. There are a few around where I live but usually there is a walmart in range for most people at the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:06 AM
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Yeah I don't need the basics of human biology. Kim K is rich and abnormally curvey. It's called a fat graft. They liposuction fat from other areas of the body and inject it into your ass, boobs, or face. Its a super common procedure among well-off women. Its also very obvious that she's had it done. Edit: Also, people in general are completely oblivious to what good plastic surgery looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:02 AM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-obesity-idUSBRE83T0C820120430v This is a good place to start. http://stateofobesity.org/obesity-by-age/ Sure about 15% of them are dying off early, but there are a lot of old fat people out there. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273160147_The_High_Price_of_Obesity_in_Nursing_Homes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:59 AM
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That's very idealistic and unlikely. We are a long way away from that point, my friend. Not everyone is fat, people don't just forget what attractive people look like. Also, I can still travel to another country to find an entire population of beautiful people who haven't destroyed their bodies. Sure, people will still have sex. Doesn't mean that fat people strip clubs agree found to start popping up in every city. Millennials are already having less sex than the previous generation, despite bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:53 PM
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You realize thats all plastic surgery, right? Fat grafts are a thing. Most women don't naturally accumulate fat like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:44 PM
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I see. So where do the walmart shoppers go to school then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:33 PM
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Pennsylvania is a huge state. Western penn has more in common with us than the east coast philly area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:26 PM
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I think it's more education related. People who grew up eating fried food will seek out the fried food on the menu, even if you take them to a fancy restaurant. They crave what they grew up with, not that lightly season chicken with a balsamic reduction They're not buying produce and grains at the grocery store, they're buying the frozen fried fish sticks and pizza rolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:21 PM
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What do you mean, exactly? This is one of the biggest public health issues in the western world. Everybody should be concerned about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:17 PM
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Dont know, nor why that is relevant. Public school is cheaper and that's where they found this major discrepancy because low income families typically don't go to private schools
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:15 PM
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Because beauty standards aren't changing. People just like to convince themselves that they are. The girls on tv and in porn are hotter than ever. The latest fitness craze means the most attractive women are setting standards that haven't been reached before by women in the past. Whats happening is the middle class of attractiveness is disappearing and the attractiveness gap is increasing on both ends. The uglies have all their pro fat movements to prop themselves up. Doesn't make them any less …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:12 PM
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http://time.com/3506103/income-college-attendance/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:05 PM
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This is it, mainly. Where I live there is a lot to do and its cheap. Its also not uncommon for middle class people here to own multiple homes or giant houses. Property is cheap. 3000 sq ft homes are going up left and right with average dual income families buying them up. Its true that a lot of them are spending outside of their income, but when you can buy a giant house with an average job on a big lot in a safe neighborhood with great schools, you dont have much to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:09 PM
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Youre putting words in my mouth. She's not on my shit list because shes not whining and asking for free shit. I don't care what she does with herself otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 05:02 PM
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Because Ann Coulter is not whining about what she doesn't have and asking the tax payers to subsidize her life choices
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:53 PM
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Yeah, nothing is tiring like the monotony of work. Makes you want to veg out all night afterwards. The amount of free time people have on college is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:49 PM
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Its not all bad. Sure its easier to get a hot woman in coastal US, but cost of living here is super cheap, the people are generally more friendly and less douchey, and there is a pretty awesome culture where I live that's unique to the area. Plus the number of vapid bimbos is much, much less
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:47 PM
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I live in rich suburbs and yes, there's much less obesity here, but the community at large is super fat, only have to drive a mile to find em.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:41 PM
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Sadly it's not. I serve the general population. Our demographics skew towards the health conscious so I'm sure there's worse out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:40 PM
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From my SOs friends, its mainly talk about periods and the horrible case of the shits that some of these girls get from it. Filthy stuff like that. That being said, her friends are very different from the average woman here so who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:12 PM
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Most of these costs are in intangible things. Fatties are living longer than ever with all the meds we can put them on to control their diabetes and heart problems. Not that many people live to 99. A lot of super fat people live into old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:08 PM
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Yeah, this is my reality on a daily basis. I probably see... I dunno maybe 20 people that fat every day come into my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:07 PM
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Seriously tho, as a college student I see plenty of women at a healthy weight. In fact, I'd say the number of obese women is pretty small and fit women outnumber chubby women. So things ain't so bad in my peer group. College is demographically higher income, higher educated people who tend to be less fat. Additionally, it's primarily 18-22 year olds who's metabolism hasn't slowed down yet. A lot of these people are eating like shit now and getting away with it, only to balloon up once they hit 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:00 PM
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Its a massive burden on our healthcare system and everyone is paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:56 PM
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Dude, Ohio is super fat compared to NYC. Thing is, the fatties don't go outside as much or are more likely to frequent certain places like walmart or chinese buffet, not the gym and bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:54 PM
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So is this an accurate representation of how average American women looks in today's society? Where I live in the midwest, there are fatties like that everywhere. Coastal cities often attract richer, more educated, body conscious singles and thus skew on the skinny side. Come to middle america and it is a shitshow. I've been saying this from day one. The average girl here is fat as fuck! That's the main reason the SMP is so messed up, everyone is disgusting looking. Think about it dude, in perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:50 PM
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The other thing is, how many times have you asked someone what they like in bed and gotten more than one or two tentative suggestions? Unless theyve got specific fetishes, most people are a fairly blank canvas I think. They dont usually have a long list of things they like or dont like. Absolutely. Most girls have not explored that much and are fairly vanilla/unadventurous in their experiences. I was a lot of firsts for my SO and I'm not even that crazy with it. That is one thing I always wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:45 PM
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What world of scarcity? I'm talking about access to women who're attracted to you. I'm very comfortable saying most men have limited dating options, meaning they have maybe 1, 2 if they're lucky, at any given time. Most men don't have more women they're attracted to than they know what to deal with. Dating is a lot different when you reach this point. On the second point I was essentially talking about beta-bux. A girl will want to LTR you if you tick all her boxes mentally and have a good job b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:38 PM
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Eventually, I realised they dont want too much focus on their pleasure. This right here. Most men want to please women, but the trick is to just please yourself (or please her by pleasing yourself). Most women want to feel like that object of his desire that makes him lose all rational thought and fuck like an animal. Getting a girl to orgasm is easy. It's a matter of finding the right spot and rhythm. Its largely mechanical. Getting a girl to orgasm from completely having your way with her? It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:19 AM
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Where do you come up with this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:52 AM
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This right here. Feminism is a movement about oppression Olympics and how women have it worse in all aspects, even the ones in which they outperform men. And for a movement that's supposedly about eliminating roles, they sure spend a lot of time telling people how to think and act. Prolifers might as well be the scum of the Earth. The female prolifers are "brainwashed". They have a list of what isn't acceptable behavior in men including expressing anger or spreading your legs on a train. They're…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:59 AM
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I mean, most women on here (including myself) have said that looks do matter, just only as a basic threshold. Not to get into the whole debacle of whatever you guys are arguing about because I am really just skimming, but this is a lot more complicated than what you let on here. A) Every womans threshold is different. Being better looking opens access to more women. In a world of scarcity this is extremely important B) It is possible to be good looking enough to date and not good looking enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:40 AM
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I didn't speak those words and I'm not here to police anybodies language or how the sub is run. Just saying that when I read it, it makes sense, it "clicks" so to speak. Where other people might see Hitler rallying the troops, I just see some guys bullshitting in a familiar language. Where you see essential components, I see the same guy-speak bullshit. There is no flowchart to follow for how to get into a women's pants. Maybe some autistic RPers need that and like to think it is, but RP is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:00 PM
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Hence why you've been called a troll from the getgo. It's interesting that you play the character of what women think is horrible in men, mirrored onto women. It's also why the comparison falls completely flat because you're playing a caricature based on female framing of gender issues. RP game revolves around what women react to. Similarly RPW game revolves around what men react to, which is pretty much the opposite of what you're doing. You're just playing an extreme political character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:38 PM
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Lets look at the key word here, generalizations. Women having no hobbies is a generalization, being emotional is a generalization. They are often true. Now, look at the side bar post explaining these things. doesn't always Often times often And the last one is just a definition of a term commonly used there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:31 PM
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The guys who demanded that I paid all turned out to have massive red flags after a few dates, such as asking for sex before we were in a relationship, making anti-feminist comments etc., and not a single one made it to relationship/sex stage. Coincidence? If they were worth a damn, they would have moved on to a woman that splits her share, likes sex, hates identity politics, and wouldn't give two shits if they didn't make it to the relationship stage with someone who clearly has an agenda. Good …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:16 PM
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Best tip I could give is dont apologize for who you are or being a sexual being. Also, act like youve some this a million times and your physical contact is just natural. If shes uncomfortable, don't become uncomfortable too as that feeds the negative emotion. Play it off like its business as usual. Close proximity early and don't set yourself up initially to where you would be reaching to touch your date. Shes having fun? Touch her in a nonsexual way. A few minutes later and shes still in good …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 09:07 PM
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I dont think much, honestly. Usually the girls who say that aren't very attractive. Unkempt hair, terrible style, introverted and difficult to talk to. They aren't on my radar ask I don't pay any attention to their dating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 05:37 PM
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Probably the most common I would encounter are Entitled attitude. Acting like she deserves certain things out the gate Victim of their own existence. No actual interests or anything worth talking about aside from TV
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 01:21 AM
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Likewise an employee can always just leave their job. You act like these women are slaves when in reality they voluntarily enter these relationships. If you don't like the job description you don't have to apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 12:46 AM
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Yeah, no shit. Its called an analogy, not an equivalent. The point was to demonstrate that people in these relationships do not "lack agency" On the other hand, my SO can absolutely be fucking fired. If she slips up or treats me shitty, she knows I will show her the door. Guess what? She willingly and lovingly sticks around. You can't fire your girlfriend? Hate to use this term, but that's cuck logic right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:21 PM
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Doesn't have to fit for you, but it is a valid form of relationship. Look at how people are arguing against it. It's misogyny. It's degrading. It's taking away her rights. All I'm saying is it's possible to be none of that and both partners be completely content. I see it all the time put into practice in couples I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:18 PM
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At what age was your first date, and how was it? 15 and it was meh. I didn't want to go but she had a crush on me and I was pressured into doing it At what age do you consider it odd when a person has never dated, either failed to get a date, or has no success whatsoever? Probably by 22-23 Q4M specifically: What are the top 5 things you would tell a man who is in his mid20's if you found out he had no dating experience whatsoever (Aside from be physically appealing since that is no issue, I'd as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:59 PM
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I'm not explaining what I like about it. I'm explaining how couples who have this type of setup see their own relationships. Let me put it to you this way: I run a business. My role is very important and all my decisions are final because my name is on the building and I am the one liable if anything goes wrong. If an employee dissents, they risk losing the job I gave them the privilege of having. The business does not function without me. That being said, my office manager runs the business. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 05:45 PM
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Because from your perspective it's "asking permission". From their perspective it just is and they're completely content that way because there is no conflict ever. It relates because unless you know a couple like this, you would have a hard time imagining how beautifully this functions for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 01:10 PM
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And yet, with a perfect analogy you demonstrate how poorly you understand this concept after all this time here. The best business men don't say "I've got several steady repeat customers, I'm all good!" They are always working to improve. Businessmen who understand frame are literally better at business. Frame is one of the basics in the business world and is a key component to making a sale. When you enter a customers frame, you are typically talking about the negative aspects of a sale, why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:20 PM
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And that's exactly why I asked the question the way I did. Can you even imagine this scenario? Because the people I know who have this type of setup IRL are really happy and typically get along super well. Why do you think that might be? You look at it as if privileges are being limited and taken away. They don't. They look at it as if they're working towards a common goal with a simple outline for conflict resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 11:58 AM
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Unless it's going horrible I would probably stick out the date. But I have no interest in an LTR with a professional victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:30 AM
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I read that story as it was unfolding. I was thinking the exact same thing. Every time I meet a redditor IRL, they're dorky as fuck. With the feminism thing IME, I've pretty much already made up my mind about them before I find out their shitty political identity. Finding out they're a feminist is just the cherry on the shit cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:27 AM
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he signed off a lot of African women to their death Good god. So if I give someone free shit and decide to stop one day its murder now. I swear, you are like a comic book character or something. A naive ideologue. One day you're going to wake up and realize you wasted a lot of emotional labor on this type of crap. Or maybe you should get off the computer and volunteer. How many thousands of dollars in charity do you do a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:12 AM
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Define "degrading" in the eyes of the partner with "less power"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:02 AM
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Fair enough. Reddit is so uninformed that I half expect everyone to have some brain-dead reply pointing fingers. The truth is that proxy wars are popular policy for both sides of the government. I've been to a handful of these countries and it's interesting to see how our policy has affected these places, for better and for worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:59 PM
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Can you imagine a world in which two people have this setup and they both get their way 100% of the time? Just wondering how good your imagination is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:53 PM
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Of which the United states is still the largest donor by a very, very large margin. People would know that if they got off their anti US circlejerk for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:14 PM
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Oppression points. There was some dumb website where you can take a quiz to see how privileged and oppressed you are. I scored pretty low, despite being a straight, white, able bodied, UMC male. Where's my free stuff? Fun fact: The results tell you you're priveleged pretty much no matter what. If you don't feel bad about yourself then you aren't doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:07 PM
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He ended a free money program for non-US citizens. Sounds like pretty much exactly what people voted for. You can make anything sound horrible if you word it to fit your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:04 PM
1

During the cold war right wing American governments literally supported actual dictatorships in Latin America. You mean the Policies based on Truman, a democrat, made popular by democrats and republicans alike?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 01:14 PM
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I didn't vote for him and am still holding my breath on him waiting to see what happens. So far nothing bad except some highly entertaining liberal hysteria. I think I like him more now than when he was running but as I said, we'll see what he does and how it affects business.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:38 PM
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The blue pillers are readpilling themselves in a round-about way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:56 PM
1

I typically do a low key little dinner. I don't make a big deal out of it because grand gestures set a bad standard for what "love" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:37 PM
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LPT: If EVERYBODY thinks you're wrong, its probably just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:35 PM
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and not unreasonably infer from this that such women do not get bombarded with attention. This is your massive leap in logic that nobody agrees with FYI
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:07 PM
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So the woman voted the sexiest in South Africa by FHM is not a 'knockout'? No dude, she's not. But she's a model that gets the best makeup, lighting, and angles to look as good as possible. She's hot, but her being the hottest girl in south africa is like the pizza place down the street from me winning "best pizza in the state award" in 2012 by some magazine. A Playboy Cyber Girl of the Month is barely better than 6/10? I didn't say that. She's hotter than most and your picture of her is probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:51 PM
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Can we just have a breakdown like this stickied on every shitty statistics post that shows up here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:07 PM
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Your pictures were horrible for Minki, vicky, and heidi. Ana Ivanovic is widely acknowledged to be the hottest female tennis player ever. Tennis players aren't known for being super hot The only decent photo was Rachel Riley None of these girls are complete knockouts. They're models with the best lighting, makeup, and angles. Even with just that, being decently attractive is enough to be famous. That's more telling than whatever point you were trying to make. Attractiveness ratings =/= attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:52 PM
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Huh? Male attention is most certainly worthless. Doesn't mean female egos aren't inflated. They are both side effects of the same SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:03 AM
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Because people dont think that one through. They should federally fund abortions and hit you back on your yearly taxes if they were smart about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:54 PM
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Very hard to tell. Terrible angle and wearing a ton of makeup. Thats the type of picture you'd see on tinder and the date would show up and be 200+ pounds. She could be an 8. She could also be a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:20 PM
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For some self improvement guy you've got a lot of time on your hands to stalk people on Reddit Nice personal dig. Lets just say I've been around for a long time. That being said I'm not nearly as active as many the regulars here. Read the comments in the post; there's nothing but RP philosophies in them. Yeah... if you're talking about the tinder post I'm just not seeing it, really at all. Here's the thing; we tend to not generalise people as much. Of course it'll work with some people. That's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:06 PM
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Holy shit I was thinking the exact same thing. Just as nutty, same weird opinions. Last one was very active here and then fell off the map. Now we get this one to entertain us!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:10 PM
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Any justification for thinking people that like to laugh at TRP must be mentally unstable other than your own skewed opinion? I've been a frequent reader for a long time. Used to res-tag people all the time before it got boring. It was mostly self-admissions of depression, bipolar, autistic, rape victims, domestic abuse victims, etc. I never said most, just a lot and it shouldn't be surprising at all. if you can't see how ironic it is Most of us will freely admit that there is a high amount of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:37 PM
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I thought of splitting it on different posts, but thought better off it because they're all part of the same and there's not really ONE main issue, but rather several issues. Well on the one hand everything is kind of related in some way or another, but with so many different topics to cover you're only going to get a small blurb on each topic and it would still be a very long reply. If anyone were to properly challenge your view, they'd have to really get into it. Also, you have to understand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 01:39 PM
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If you didn't read what I actually said, then how did you came to the conclusion that it is useless? Well, I made it about half-way through before I realized there was nothing new here, at least on the surface. The thing about posts like this is you touch on a million different subjects. It's really difficult to have a focused discussion. I'm not planning on writing an essay back and I'm surprised that many people did. I'd personally rather you highlight on one particular aspect of RP and go fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:58 AM
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But if you are getting all your information from TBP and don't look deeper, think of the perspective you're getting as you're hardly getting an unbiased argument. -A group of people who's purpose is to mock another group of people -A group of people that intend to highlight the WORST of another group of people -A group of people with a very high percentage of mentally unstable and scorned users with a common perceived enemy. A lot of the users are female abuse victims who are trying to make sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:46 AM
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Hahaha I hear ya. Well for what its worth, I thoroughly enjoyed that little exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:51 PM
3

It actually happens fairly quickly if you dont lift regularly once youre out of your early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:43 PM
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Valiant effort but these people build up their walls with years of indoctrination into us vs them mentality. No amount of perspective will ever change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:47 PM
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This is my main issue with these types of arguments. Go over to TBP or any feminist subs and misogyny has been so overused and diluted to have lost its meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:38 PM
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Well if you put it that way there's always a shittier deal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:25 AM
1

Yeah, broader.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:30 PM
1

Well yeah, I took your small point and went broader. Validation is a positive experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 05:00 PM
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There isn't enough information to tell you what really happened, but if I had to guess you probably accelerated 0 to 100 too fast. If she isn't highly converted or used to dominance on your part, she will take any out of character comments the wrong way. Sounds like she doesn't know this is a healthy way to express your lust. She has to get her feet wet to the idea. Do you talk dirty with her? Probably the place to start if you aren't. PS. Give her positive validation not negative. If you acknow…
/r/askMRP10/02/17 03:25 PM
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There are 3 big components. -Be valueable (provider) -Be exciting (sexually attractive) -Market yourself well (game)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:52 PM
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Your problem is not filtering for a party girl or not. Your problem is filtering for someone with a complete disregard for responsibility or respect for you. TRP takes an overly simplistic view of party girls in the same way that many of the users completely miss the point on chad. Asshole's don't do well with women because they are assholes. They do well because they commonly have traits that women find attractive such as confidence and being sexually aggressive. Likewise, party girls are not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:47 PM
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A woman wouldn't leave a relationship for a more attractive man, or cheat on her beta guy, unless there is something else wrong with the relationship besides the fact that he is a beta. Like unemployment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:23 PM
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Depends on what you mean by higher beta. If we're talking about a healthy 50/50 mix of alpha/beta traits then no, they probably don't get ordered around and walked all over by their wives. But high earning, intelligent, good looking betas? I know quite a few docs who're getting metaphorically butt-fucked by their bitchy loser wives. They wear the pants at work only to come home and assume the position. They live this life because that's the type of woman they attracted and enabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:18 PM
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These women married to beta males deeply resent the fact that they had to settle for beta males. They're pissed off and angry about it every day, because that beta male is a daily, nightly reminder that she wasn't good enough to snare the commitment of the hot alpha she loved fucking. Women who date an extreme alpha will commonly swing hard in the opposite direction with her next boyfriend to extreme beta. It's almost like a compensation for the hot chad that made her feel excited yet insecure a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:13 PM
2

Or eat the pie without the crust Or the fried chicken without the breading
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:05 PM
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People saying not at all are blowing smoke up your ass. The real answer is this: Kind of Your value as a human being is a the sum of a number of different traits. Ability to get sex and relationships represents a specific type of social intelligence that not everybody has. You could be completely lacking in that arena and a spectacular standout human being in other areas. On the other hand, if you can get sex easy, you likely have a particular type of social intelligence, charisma, or are just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:03 PM
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The point is the presentation of the individual. If he made you feel excited, he can be a total shit-bag and still fuck you. If he made you feel like you'd be a "cock sleeve," he obviously presented himself the wrong way if casual sex was his intention. When I was single, to girls casual sex with me was an experience. It was a passionate, adventurous ride. Also chill and interesting experience where she wasn't going to feel judged. They knew they were in good hands that would give them a good fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:59 PM
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Thank you for this, it's fairly obvious. Women are the primary purchasers or decision makers in the vast majority of family purchases. If you wan't the household, you market to the woman. The bumbly dad and the cute, smart mom is supposed to identify with that woman and make her feel empowered by deciding to buy that product. It's female power fantasy in commercial form. Hell, in my business I almost exclusively market to women. The husbands come after the wives decide they like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:51 PM
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Beta males dont get sex on their own terms and their wives typically wear the pants. They're the type of guys that need to check in with her before they do anything because they have willfully given away all their power in the relationship. Also because they tend to be people pleasers and go out of their way for their wives, theyll attract disagreeable women that others won't put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 01:31 PM
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Exciting meaning you're interested in them. They have excited you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 09:12 PM
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Condescending about what? I'm not the one trying to dissect my dates secret nefarious intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 09:07 PM
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I'm suggesting that men sexualizing or putting women on a pedestal is innate and by fighting against this idea feminism is fighting against human biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 09:02 PM
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And here we get to the crux of the matter. Its about those special feelz from someone exciting. The content is less important than how its packaged when it comes to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 08:57 PM
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I dream of the day where women are taken as individuals rather than pedestalized (or degraded) as a monolith. And what happens when the day comes that we prove that it's just built into human nature for people to treat the opposite sex differently than the same sex? Cause you know, it is. You're going to be waiting a long time. Beliefs like this are adversarial, grass is greener type crap. Spinning around how certain advantages that women have are secretly disadvantages is the same old "privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:44 PM
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Hmmm, there are too many to keep track of but I'll post the ones I run into on a regular basis. Any sort of mental illness Doesn't come from a good family or has poor relationship with family Has no friends or life of their own besides "going out" or "hanging" Has no real hobbies or interests besides drinking or partying Narrowminded or stuck in their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:04 PM
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There are some big differences in growing up being male that change this. Where as women grow up being sexualized, men grow up isolated and alone. We have to work for something we don't have or we will never get it, whether that be companionship, intimacy, or just people who wasn't too talk to us. I think I've said this before but people are a lot nicer to me in public when I'm out with my girlfriend. When I'm alone, they wouldn't give a rat's ass. Imagine growing up and that's your whole existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 12:47 PM
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Serious question: why do so many people here like the shy, quiet types? Is it because theyre shy themselves? Just wondering as I get bored really fast witht those types AND find the shyness is often a defense mechanism to hide whatever the fuck is wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:43 PM
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Personal experience tells me they're typically a little nuttier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:39 PM
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That chart is too simple and a bit over exaggerated for my tastes. Most 8 men are not going to bang a 3 or 4 even. A very small minority will and thus the 3 or 4 has access to some very attractive men. That could screw with her calibration of her own value but its typically not so extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:38 PM
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Aside from what is mentioned here, another thing you'd want to do is vet your partner well. You're going to have to rely on your wife's judgement a lot on decisions raising your daughter in situations that you have literally no experience in. Having a partner with similar values that you trust is a major help in these situations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:52 PM
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This is a pretty interesting topic and would be a fun one to discuss at length. Attractive enough for sex is a low standard and typically more of a gradient. There's girls I've slept with once when drunk and been fairly disgusted afterwards and never looked back. There's girls that I fucked a few times before realizing I was disgusted. Personally for me, this is a low 6 or high 5. I have to be under the influence to tolerate this. Id say these types are maybe top 30 percentile considering how fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:45 PM
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No one who understands nuance would think that all instructions are intended be followed to the letter without room for such considerations. I've been thinking the exact same thing from the second I started posting here. We're not robots walking around with a flowchart. I'm extremely social, feel comfortable in just about every situation, and make friends extremely easily. Flirting and game are related to social skills, but not the same skill. I read redpill to sharpen my game, not to drop every…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 05:56 PM
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To answer your question, I would agree that westen women are slightly more stuck-up, maybe even moreso in LA. That being said, I'm from the midwest and LA is shooting fish in a barrel in comparison. That being said, I can't comment on the LTR prospects as I can imagine a lot of vain people moving there looking for fame. When I am abroad in any country I favor (Anywhere in Central Europe, Turkey, Greece, Southeast Asia, Mexico, even surprisingly England) these flaws are suddenly strengths. Or to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 06:44 PM
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Fair enough, but the logic of your post is exactly the same. If you asked TBP to describe what they think a RPer looked and sounded like, it would be a cartoon character. If you asked TBP to describe the type of women who would date a RPer, you'd have similarly cartoonishly vile descriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 06:33 PM
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I'm not really sure what you're getting at but in general, I think reddit tends to be a little more on the nerdy introvert side.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 06:10 PM
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TRP wouldn't understand this. Do you think this is some kind of major revelation? There is a reason it's called sexual market value. Your value is affected by the market you exist in. If demand is high and supply is low, your value is higher. OTOH, I somewhat disagree with you. As I've traveled a decent amount, I've been to some countries where the women are much more attractive than they are in the states and funny things start to happen. When an 8 here is only a 6 in that country, the competit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 06:06 PM
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You fall into the same trap most of the bloops do of thinking all RPers are autistic. A lot of BPers saw some dorky guy IRL somewhere and thought he must be a red piller. Putting people in a box becuase of what you read on the internet is all confirmation bias. You're looking for flaws in people because you want to see them. Nuance will never be conveyed effectively in an online guide or step by step instructions and because an individual lacks nuance in his human interactions absolutely does NO…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 05:46 PM
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MRP is a multifaceted approach depending on your specific situation and which options youve already exhausted. That being said, they havent allowed RP solutions for a while now. I tried to post my story and they blocked it because it involved light bdsm, dread, and the words red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:52 PM
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Thanks. Shes amazing. I truly believe that anybody who dislikes her has no soul
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 05:10 AM
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Yeah, just like a ton of feminist think that male genocide is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 03:00 AM
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Why does stating reality automatically mean "desire to change reality" You can't negotiate attraction is a core principal. The goal is to be in that top 20, not redistribute the curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 02:17 AM
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What is the point of this exactly? The gay population where I live is big. Depending where im at, I've been approached and hit on by a lot of gays. They are a LOT more straight forward than women. Its not even comparable how much easier meeting people I'm attracted to would be if I were gay. On the other hand, I created just about every interaction I've ever had with a woman who wasn't overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 07:53 PM
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Well IRL guys are still magnitudes more thirsty. How much attention you personally receive depends on how often you leave your house/what social situations you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:09 PM
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They don't. It's just magnitudes more than men. If you look at our favorite okcupid study, you can point out that men favor only the most attractive women by a large majority while ugly women are ignored just like ugly men. If you look a little closer, you'd see that the graphs are scaled and that the ugliest women get the same amount of attention as the most attractive men. The most attractive women just get attention from an insanely high percentage of men in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:40 PM
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Yeah, r/politics is 100% retarded. They are good at regurgitating talking points but horrible at conceptualizing multifaceted ideas. Hence, why dumbo headlines and gotcha-type articles appeal to them so much. Their brains can't think past the initial foundation of whatever topic they're discussing. It'd be a total waste of the keystrokes to attempt to have a logical conversation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 04:33 PM
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Yeah bad luck hits every once in a while but what else can we do but minimize our chances of having a bad outcome. I am being very general on the topic of vetting because it's a complicated thing, depends on the individual, and there's a million things you could discuss on that topic. Don't walk down dark alleys at night, don't stand around looking like a target, don't flash your expensive watch in a dangerous neighborhood, don't date someone who has a poor history or bad qualties. Things like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:11 PM
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Most women have no idea what TRP is or would ever care, so a smart or dumb woman wouldn't give fuck-all over TRP. This place is hardly representative of the average woman or man for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:27 PM
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Absolutely. A good takeaway is this. Because men act upon women typically in dating, women pick the man they want to date from their potential suitors. If you let the man do everything, you're just left with the one who gave you the most excitement regardless of his personal qualities, because he did everything to get you to this point. By not taking an active role in the process, you aren't taking an active role in vetting him for his potential qualities or lack of qualities. I think a lot of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:09 PM
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Sounds like you've had an unlucky run of men. FWIW you sound like you have a lot of good qualities that I'd want in a partner. That being said, not enough can be said about vetting the right partner and for a woman, I wouldn't be able to tell you how to go about it. Men just don't have the experience dealing with all the male shitheads out there to know the best way to filter them out. We can only say the things we like about OUR relationships as we only have the perspective from the other side,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 01:57 PM
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Because you can't just be all that and the perfect guy will fall into your lap. You also have to properly vet your potential suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 01:48 PM
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OP, I am a decent looking guy, not the best but not the worst, above average. I date good looking women. I've rejected a lot of good looking women, usually because they have shit personalities. Beauty is honestly fairly common, more common than a good personality. Your experiences are not the norm. The common factor in all your experiences with losers is you. You sound like a stick in the mud. Why would any man with options want to put up with that? Also, not to be nosy but are you overweight? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 01:41 PM
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Sometimes I have no idea how to respond to threads like this because I have literally no idea what you're talking about or where these ideas come from. People come up with all sorts of weird theories because of a couple spergs on the internet that pissed them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:41 AM
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Ive never talked to anybody who knows anything about money who was excited about the guy. Even taking his most optimistic economic estimates, shit would have turned out bad for business owners. I think his own personal experience outside of politics is really telling when it comes to his business/economic senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 12:44 AM
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Whoops, brain fart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 08:19 PM
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Assertiveness is a reaction. Aggressiveness is a proactive thing. Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:54 PM
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I find mate guarding so entertaining. Most of my girlfriends friends are hot and married. When these girls go out, its funny to watch dudes try to bust a move while the husbands just sit back and crack jokes about it. I like to take a more proactive approach. My favorite way to mess with them is to be really really nice to the guy who thinks they're competing with me. I like to push their buttons in more subliminal ways, like slight physical contact on my SO. It's hilarious, gets their male hams…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:53 PM
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Sure, but the luxury of having liberalism is the result of stability and wealth, not the cause. Wealth is mainly created by a small percentage of people. In a stable and wealthy society, it is easier to distribute wealth among the less fortunate while everyone benefits. In instability, people hang onto their money and are more conservative in their spending. A small personal example: Everybody on Reddit loves Bernie Sanders, but as a small business owner, I was so happy to see that guy go. He se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:25 PM
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Sure does! I've had a decent amount of unattractive women and gays hit on me. It's always kind of flattering but meh, no thanks. Those are typically cold approaches on their part. Its a interesting experience when they're attractive though. IME, attractive girls will only aggressively pursue once you've got them hooked, proved your value so to speak. The switch in behavior is always fun to watch. The fights happen when you've got multiple girls hooked at the same event. The first time it happene…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:54 PM
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Hahaha I enjoy the honesty. I personally love "the hunt" as I call it to attract that girl at the party I want. The whole process is a lot of fun, IMO. Most average guys don't realize how different the experience is for women. The only advantage you have in pursuing if you're pretty is having a little more agency in who you end up with. Most of the women that agressively pursue IME are unattractive. But nothing strokes the ego quite like when two hot girls are competing for your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:04 PM
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When the old religious right die off abortion will be legalized in all 50 states. I am pretty firm in the "Some people should never be parents" camp. Itll save us all a lot of tax burden. Only thing im against is taxpayer funded abortion. Cant scrounge up a couple hundred bucks? Thats what credit cards and loans are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:49 PM
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Generally liberalism is a luxery. The more stable your society, the more it can afford to be liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:39 PM
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What do you mean? I was laughing because you make the same argument that red pillers do about not dating high n count women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:32 PM
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I didn't read the whole thing. It was long and dragged on. Maybe later. I stopped after the part on aggressiveness vs assertiveness. The article is just splitting hairs over definitions. It also ignores some of the positive ways in which aggression can have a positive effect while polarizing the two concepts as something completely different. On the other hand, assertiveness and aggression share a lot in common and the article is lazy in defining assertiveness as "everything positive that isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:32 PM
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah its not a western thing. Its common in a lot of other cultures. The ones in which is not would be the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 12:25 PM
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Social skills and game are different skill sets. They have some overlap but not as much as you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:52 AM
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Heh, kind of funny because its a personal preference for what type of past you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:12 AM
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Right, its not. The example you give is when porn was in its infancy and the population was much more homogenized and insulated. Anything "different" would be popular in a sense. Modern trends in porn are due to something completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:05 PM
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Stereotypes exist relative to your own culture. The OP I responded to is just another version of blaming the man for everything when in reality, stereotypes exist for a very simple reason. The conversations here makes me feel like people here have never traveled, and a cruise or resort doesnt count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:55 PM
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Dunno. Wasnt jerking it then but a lot of people credit the popularity of modern asian porn to Asa Akira. Also a trend setter who had many follow in her path. Regardless, it has nothing to do with world politics. Theres been war in the middle east for all of mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:47 PM
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Youre really stretching with this one. Middle eastern porn is trending because it is a completely untapped market with very attractive girls. Then you need a few "stars" to pave the way. It wouldnt be nearly as in demand if Mia Khalifa didnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:35 PM
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Fetishized because the cold war and vacations? Dude what are you talking about? These people are fetishized because they're attractive and culturally different. Simple as that. Not everything is because the power of straight white males.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:01 PM
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OP has been pretty active on these boards. There's plenty of info out there on the topic. Also, I like how being beta is "berating" to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 04:47 PM
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His comment: 'Women are the true perverts. Most men do not dream of this at all.' I like how you make entire generalizations from little offhand comments from your beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:24 PM
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I think the responses of "Why would I do that?" are pretty interesting. Navigating gendered relationships is definitely a different skill than simply being social. Maximizing your options in this area would also improve your outcomes. My parents loved feel-good advice that was generic enough to not be helpful at all. I learned everything from being very social but not everyone is an extreme extrovert like that and it would have been nice to have some guidance along the way. Would have saved me y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 03:20 PM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:57 PM
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What is the proper mix of alpha to beta traits in a relationship on a general level and at what point to we define it as beta or beta fucks for that matter? Most married men I know are fairly pussy whipped and I wouldn't define as beta fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 04:18 PM
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I kind of like this field report. It illustrates all the things you did wrong (there were many) but written with the language of someone who is so certain of themself. A lot of people post shitty field reports and are so convinced they did everything perfect, hamstering their mistakes away like your BS about why you wanted to talk on the phone AND explained it to her. Honestly, the biggest mistake with this girl IMO is the fact that you put in any thought into it at all. Even if shes attractive,…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/17 02:14 PM
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Can I just say that I love how this is becoming and insult? Sometimes terms catch on like "hella" and they sounds so fucking stupid. This one is actually funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 12:16 PM
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I lived in a very liberal college city. First time was when I decided to do the research for myself over feminism that I had taken at face value in college only to realize how politically slanted and full of shit their talking points were. Every major feminist talking point or well known fact is muddled in statistical manipulation and half truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 12:13 PM
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Ahhhhh good ole social equality. The amiguous moving target defined by whatever we're feeling like that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 01:12 PM
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For sure. My point was that first impressions count a lot more than people would like to think they do and thus, what you say will absolutely have an impact on whether or not you're able to bed some random girl. It just won't convince a girl to fuck you who never would have in the first place, with exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:00 PM
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Well sure, when I was in college and HD tvs were first becoming common, I would always bring girls home to show them my blu-ray player. But I think the funny part is that Mario Kart is a seemingly very random thing to come up and it has happened to me on multiple first dates. No question Mario gets the girls home. But I would never bring it up on those dates so it's funny to me that that's how you roll.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 06:57 PM
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because they don't consciously know I would bet heavily on this being the answer. Ever listen to a woman trying to logic out why she is attracted to a douche bag or why she isn't attracted to good guy? The confusion in their own heads is the source of a lot of frustration if you're only listening to what they say. Women are fed the same lies growing up about women's preference and are often just as confused over their own decisions. A few examples from my personal life: -The feminist ex was alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:48 PM
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A lot of people refuse to believe that regardless of effort, if you don't present yourself properly, it doesn't matter how awesome you are, you've already been judged. Most women who're out and about learn quickly to disqualify men who approach them. What this means is that not only do you have to meet a physical threshold, but have to prove a certain level of social awareness by saying the right shit, and you only get one try. Women like to scoff at PUAs for canned lines as the idea of saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 01:32 PM
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The biggest takeaway from this story is that this is somehow news.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 01:16 PM
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People are more inclined to say they like altruism because it makes them feel better about themselves. If I say I like nice guys, I'm a good person, not like those shallow girls who care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 01:13 PM
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You're going to think I'm kidding but every fucking time they would say something along the lines of ohhh I loved that game. I'd kick your ass at that game. My brothers used to play that! Blah bla bla fucking bla. Wow this is hilarious! This has happened to me multiple times where a girl has wanted to come over and play mario kart.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/17 11:20 PM
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Sure, a lot of that shit goes down in college. But the context in which it matters is the single dating scene which is generally 20s to early 30s before the game changes with kids, divorces, and a whole other list of new baggage. And chad most certainly comes in all ages. I know handful in their 30s. They're just less common because, you know, people settle down and all that shit. If I had the choice, I don't want to date the girl who made every mistake growing up. I didn't make those mistakes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 11:05 PM
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No worries. We may not agree on everything but we're here in good faith and just navigating the world ourselves. You have no loony outer space opinions or intentions to hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:49 PM
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Yeah, I just remembered reading a lot of weird shit by this particular poster, have been active in a few of their threads, and have everyone res-tagged. Haha it IS tempting as there are quite a few people I'd love to go off on but it really won't accomplish anything. Only reason I mentioned it here is because OP is trolling HARD. Shitty comments will get shitty replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:43 PM
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Hahaha well I try not to single anybody out in particular if I can help it. I'll tell you that you're too normal to be the type of interesting I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:40 PM
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No worries. I think you're a pretty reasonable poster for what its worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:20 PM
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Never said that, just that a lot of people become hardened to the world as they grow up. Reddits userbase skews heavily to college kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:19 PM
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I think I hit closer to home than I expected to. I wouldn't be surprised if OP got burned hard in the past, wrote whatever guy off as a player, and used some betas until she found one she was attracted to, then came here to point out how wrong the world is. I mean, she had to teach her boyfriend how to use his dick for God's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:18 PM
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If I intended to accomplish anything I'd post on a red pill forum. I think conversation is more interesting with dissenting opinions. I'm also here for the lulz with all the sick burns and logic hamstering that goes on here. There are some truly.. interesting people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:09 PM
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A lot of them turn red when they enter the real world and their idealist painting of the world comes crashing down in the same vein that college liberals become conservative when they get a job, start paying taxes, and realize how badly the government is buttfucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:06 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5ok9ph/cmv_avoiding_pumping_and_dumping_is_extremely/ Points 1 and 2. There are plenty of other very telling gems in OPs posting history. 400 dollars is based on the average price of dinner for two in the US for a middle of the road restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:16 PM
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I stopped reading at about the second sentence. Too much straw. Yeah, that's not what that is. A strawwman would be if I changed your argument and then argued against the new version. I haven't addressed your argument in this post. I made an observation about your posting history and an assumption about your personality. It can't be straw because I'm not arguing your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:08 PM
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You've written a novel and a half on the internet defending a bunch of extreme claims that not even the blue pillers agree with pertaining to your personal experience and your SO. You've written SO much in such a short time that it would be impossible to go through all the claims you've made to refute. Therefore, you're either butthurt about something and are here to fervorously defend your ego or just have nothing better to do than sit on the internet all day arguing at strangers. Personally I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:42 PM
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Which statement specifically? Most of these are statements made by the OP. And no, I'm not shaming intelligence. A phd in mathematics is like speaking a different language. Being good at that typically requires your brain to be wired a certain way, typically introverted, AND requires a road in which you typically encounter very few women. Combine that with all the OPs other crazy comments and its not much of a leap
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:28 PM
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Loads of docs I went to school with fit this description. A lot of them are totally hopeless when it comes to women. The ones who actually know what they're doing crush it. The ones with no game might as well be the incels around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:20 PM
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CMV: The whole point of all these series of threads is to convince yourself that your SO is very high value, had a lot of options, and picked you immediately to commit to because you are also high value. You also respect and value him because he is a good little doggie that does what he says. Either that or you're a troll. Lets look at the evidence of your beliefs: -A man will commit immediately to a woman if he likes her enough -A man should pay for 10 dates before given sex (so lets say pay ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:14 PM
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I don't. Maybe half of them are genuine on PPD. A lot of them have an axe to grind and come here to lash at someone due to their own personal insecurities. TBP subreddit fosters a lot of hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:55 AM
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It's not common at all among the traditional people I know to be having sex before the relationship is at an emotional intimacy level of saying "I love you" without awkwardness. Yeah that is certainly way beyond anything I've ever seen or experienced outside of the young and completely inexperienced. Where are you from? Is it a particularly religious area? And I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the troll
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:39 AM
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The average number of dates before sex is 3-4. Assuming she's not waiting for marriage, even traditional, good girl will fuck you fast if they like you enough. They'll pay for dates, too. They're not rigid stiffs. A lot of Red pillers don't know their hands from their asses, just like this poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:54 PM
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if a redpiller wants to marry/date/LTR a woman with low partner count they will probably have to pass the screening test and show that he has more than just one thing on his mind. Not hard to do. We're talking about someone who is asking that men do 100% of the courtship while she doles out little nuggets of affection for him being a good lap dog. Its totally loony. Keep in mind the other opinion of this poster that a man has to pay for 10 dates prior to sex. If we are talking the average dinner…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 11:26 PM
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He is the one who has to jump through hoops for a woman, not the other way around. Lol. Sounds like you've got it all figured out If a man is not willing to invest in a woman, what kind of value does he bring to the table? Girls who say this kind of shit usually find themselves one-dimensional men who fit that bill pretty quickly because they're the only ones who will put up with such unilateral garbage. What are you bringing to the table besides your vagina that would make a man want to invest …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:16 PM
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The ole pump and dump. I never dumped a girl because she banged me. I HAVE dumped quite a few who just weren't cool enough to hang out with. -The first cut is whether they are attractive enough to hook up with and there personality isn't completely irritable. -The second cut is are they sexually compatible and cool enough to keep around for a while. A lot of women get cut here. They just weren't worth keeping around. I've gotten rid of a few because the sex was horrible (never because we had sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:09 PM
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I dropped girls like this pretty quickly. Theyre never worth jumping through hoops for. Sounds like a good way to meet low value, desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:56 PM
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Glad you enjoyed it. Instead of PUA tricks and focus on closing, you've broken the dating game down into reasonable steps and signposts that anyone can follow. That's really what it boils down to. PUA lines are just witty comebacks to very specific situations. The real trick is that I present myself as a high value man. I value my time and have certain expectations for her to meet if she is to stick around (and for all she knows, other women are meeting them). I don't have to lie to anybody or p…
/r/MarriedRedPill17/01/17 06:15 PM
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However, I'm not that kind of guy. I don't want some 10 women to call on for mindless banging. Nor do I want to have the sort of mindset all of my red pill friends seem to have where women are objects. Hey man. Personally I find it pretty easy to balance a RP mindset with my specific goals. It's been an extremely rewarding journey of LTRs, casual sex, and some in between. My love life has been like a really good movie that I've been in complete control of for the past few years. I slutted around…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:42 PM
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This is me about 90% of the time. A nice shirt, fit, small amount of meaningful accessories. Simple, clean, never have any problems. I find the more out there I get with style the more polarized people get about it. The more neutral the outfit, the less it has to do with my interactions. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/90/fc/80/90fc80ee51e1ffe916ed6df120d4714d.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:51 AM
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Yeah I agree with you that there is no morality to it if we're discussing how you would actually define chad. Let me clarify what I mean by fuckhead chad. What i mean is that the chad that will piss people off the most is the fuckhead variety because he is getting pussy despite being a fuckhead (because as we know being an asshole or nice person is independent of how attractive you are)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:35 AM
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I agree with your criticism. It only dilutes the point to discuss all these random variables about what chad is possibly like. I liken it more to physics. The laws of physics are very specific until we get down to a very small size. On the quantum physics level, matter doesn't behave the way we expect. In the same way in the dating game, most of dating follows specific rules that you need to abide by in order to attract the opposite sex. Throw all those rules out if you're chad though because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:16 AM
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I know a handful and while they tend to be very intelligent and analytical, they also tend to have very big gaps in logic where they fail to understand why humans behave a certain way. If you can't empathize you can't relate to complex emotions another might be experiencing. It's often a big disadvantage in dealing with people. There is a lot of sociopathy in my field and they tend to be good, but they aren't the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:38 AM
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Sure, it's relative. That's why context matters. N-count by itself isn't going to be super informative unless you know more about the person its associated with and how they fit with your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:13 AM
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I truly enjoyed your colorful description of the red pill. Here's me: http://i.imgur.com/O963yXG.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:10 AM
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Lol this is what I can't get over. Some of the blue pillers obviously spend a LOT of time here trying to justify why they hate red pillers and why red pillers are horrible people for navigating the world a specific way. The most glorious irony is how similar their posts are to whiny anger phasers who're trying to justify why women are horrible people for following their biological programming. They kind of are the thing they hate the most, hence why they have to draw these lines in the sand to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:06 AM
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The reason red pillers and blue pillers clash so much is the same reason people clash so much about politics. Different perspectives on the same topic. From where you're standing, the lamp post in the distance looks flat. From someone right next to it, it is conicular and full of texture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:58 AM
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So like, here's a legitimate question. What do you think is going to go through the average person's head if they read this comment thread between you and I? Would you imagine it will go something like this? Hmm, it seems a lot of men with no affiliation to these groups almost universally agree with u/ppdthrowawai on this one. However, as u/brokenorgan6 pointed out, those men are all sexist and thus it doesn't count!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:50 AM
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Okay well in case you're actually serious with this silly circular argument, generally, PPD defines BP as not identifying as RP. I even presented it as such in the original statement you're attempting to debunk. Outside of your other ridiculous strawman, thats not even unique to RP. Even BP men know its generally a bad idea to ask women for dating advice. It's not unique to RP. Men who are not RP in this context (BP) does it as well! Here is hundreds of non-red pillers (thus, BP) saying the exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:24 AM
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Lol you are predictably entertaining. From u/FallacyExplnationBot right below your post. A straw man is logical fallacy that occurs when a debater intentionally misrepresents their opponent's argument as a weaker version and rebuts that weak & fake version rather than their opponent's genuine argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:07 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/4xy2zw/straight_men_of_reddit_whats_your_experience_on/ took about 7 seconds to find this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:54 AM
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Who said he was an awkward loser You did my only thought was "What is wrong with this person". If I'm having a personal conversation with someone and they appear to be afraid of seeming vulnerable or preoccupied with appearing "dominant" about trivial things, I assume they're a sneaky creep with issues... Sounds like an awkward loser to me. not once has an RP guy asked my opinion to better understand women Outside of your other ridiculous strawman, thats not even unique to RP. Even BP men know i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:39 AM
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You're not going to change the minds of anybody who is succeeding by telling them some awkward loser was awkward to you so everything must be made up. This ends now if you cause me to vomit in my mouth again. Lol so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:03 AM
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Speaking of field reports, I've laughed at many and I've yet to see a single instance of an encounter that didn't appear forced or like a monologue with interchangeable nouns and verbs. How about you ~show or share~? You're defending a shitty belief system, not me. I enjoy some good outrage porn and sometimes reading the blooper comments puts a big smile on my face. Want to know why? I read field reports that people call fake when something similar has happened in my life. People have specifical…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:07 AM
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Sluts are everywhere. They're just not particularly out in the open all the time and especially not for a low value man. Looks can be deceiving though dude and as has been said here before, it's easy to be a slut. I remember hooking up with some girl I met online once. She was cute, awkward, and recently divorced to the only man she'd ever been with a few months back. JUST got back into dating. So I'm somewhere around number 2 or 3 or something, right? Nahhh, I was number 10 if I remember correc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:53 AM
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Do chicks like that, that, that, that, that or that exist in your social circle? This just makes me sad how unattractive most of the alternative women are around here. I was really into it when I was younger but the pickens are slim. Go talk to the chicks that drink beer in the park and hang out with the stoner chicks that smoke next to the river. Haha I was planning on posting a big post about how your world is so different than mine but ended up getting lazy. This doesn't exist in any capacity…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:12 AM
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The idea of chad is to prove a point through hyperbole. Why the discussion about chad is always so retarded here is because people constantly bring up all these nitpicky little details about what chad must be like. That's not the point. Chad simply represents a critical level of attractiveness where the rules that we all play by no longer apply. That is all. IRL I knew quite a few Chads growing up and no two chads were the same aside from being very attractive and having a high self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:58 PM
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Does RP strategy work on all women? In my experience, no. But I suppose you could always tailor your strategy to seek out what you're looking for. There are no rules that say you have to do it a certain way. If not, what kind of women? What are they like? IME it works pretty poorly on insecure women, especially sexually insecure women. They wouldn't do well with the fact that I am open and lead with my sexuality and was seeing other women. It also didn't work for me on women who aren't open to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:50 PM
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I like this analogy a lot actually. Only big difference is in the working world there are a lot of laws protecting the employee to prevent them from being fired. Dumping someone is relatively easy in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 07:58 PM
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Tell 1) what was your biggest flaw(s) when you were a BP, 2) how you have overcome that, I will include this in my update 3) how you seduce these new girls, i.e. how you escalate from 'hi' until taking them to bed. This would have to be a whole separate post. Didn't think it was appropriate for MRP but I did open that can of worms I guess. Maybe I will sit down and write this up sometime or focus on a particularly interesting one.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 11:29 PM
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It wasn't my intention as I wrote the story pretty much in chronological order, tried to cover a few highlights over this phase of life, and also cut out a few identifying details that unfortunately make the story better. Sometimes it makes a lot more sense in your head than it does to a stranger. I will try to rewrite it or edit it to make it more valuable as others have pointed out. There is a lot I could touch on but my intention was never to write a bunch of separate field reports, just to c…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 11:23 PM
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I'm especially intrigued with your compilation of redpill truths and your quantative results I will post an update on this later. I admittedly wrote this post pretty fast and I think came off a little more disjointed than I wanted. Also, I didn't want numbers to be the focus of this thread and I am not Chad or trying to brag, just did pretty well for what I would expect. I probably went on over 20 first dates over a few months. I didn't go for any one night stands as I don't really enjoy that. I…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 11:15 PM
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You know how mints tend to clear the sinuses and you can finally breathe? That was trp to my mind. To much more fulfilling days ahead! I hear you, it's been the same. I'll never look back at my ex the same. The things that originally attracted me to her just don't seem special anymore. It's embarrassing how much I felt like I had with that person as I would be incapable of wearing the same blind "love goggles" today. She wouldn't get a second look if I met her today.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 10:49 PM
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Yeah I'll probably rewrite this to be a little more organized. I'd love to say what happened. I had to omit some of the best details as too many people know this story IRL. We'll just say I didn't trust her anymore at all. Coupled with history of a lackluster love life, me doing literally all the housework, and all the other shit I was doing just to have a what seemed like a normal life where my fiancee respected me, it wasnt worth any of that. I walked and am so happy I did.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 07:52 PM
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Thanks for the critique. Will do when I have some free time.
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 07:44 PM
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Sorry. Not looking for advice just a thank you post I suppose. I posted part one to deadbedrooms but they werent having it because my solution involved red pill so I posted here. People seemed interested so I posted a follow-up on how life is continuing to improve. Theres plenty to discuss but I tried to cram a lot into an already long story about that phase of my life. Maybe it wasn't the ending that everyone was hoping for from the first part but my ex had her limits. I probably could have mad…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 07:42 PM
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It makes me smile that people think it's fake. If I want anyone to take anything from it, it's not what I did. It's what I learned from the experience. However it looks like I'm going to have to edit this later to be a little more clear. I left out a lot of details that make some of the events make more sense. For example I had a lot of social proof with that beautiful girl. Far more than normal. Also things were coming together nicely in my life at the time. It wasn't just the red pill. Lucky t…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 04:45 PM
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Im trying to cram a year of my life into a few paragraphs. There was a lot of info to try and fit there and I tried not to turn this into a bunch of mini field reports. I admit that it probably is a little disjointed. What can I delve into more to make it more clear?
/r/MarriedRedPill13/01/17 04:38 PM
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So women don't have an easier time getting casual sex? Because that's what comments like this imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:45 PM
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Okcupid actually studied this and found that copy/paste messages sent out en masse are far more effective use of your time than carefully crafting and tailoring messages to someone who will very likely ignore you. Makes sense to me and reflects my experience pretty well. I don't think the response rate was any different when I personalized a message vs just saying, "hey, whats happening?" From a RP lens I would say this: No girl is worth me spending a bunch of time crafting tailor made messages …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:02 AM
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Keep in mind that its not how I would describe myself. These are explanations from girls I fucked or dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:56 AM
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It's not the same. Those women are attractive despite their behavior. They just have so many men in their dating pool that they will eventually find one who is either alpha enough to stomp that shit out or beta enough to put up with it. On the other hand with the men, their cockiness is a part of what makes them attractive. I can't tell you how many women have told me they liked me because I don't take shit from anybody or can't be controlled. One girl I used to date lost her shit because I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:39 AM
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At the helm of a bunch of mentally ill abuse victims that see microaggressions in their day-to-day interactions, TRP is the perfect outlet for all their trauma. I've seen the type IRL. They fit the bill of what you'd find at r/thebluepill. Emotionally motivated to prove their worldview is right, they're in control, and what happened to them was because of rotten people like TRP. You'd be shocked what these types are motivated to do and they will happily go out of their way to ruin someone if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 01:11 PM
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Sure it can be "consumed". You can be taken off the market by an LTR, something that eventually happens to most people. Your stock is rising/falling and someone will eventually buy it because its high enough that they find it to be worth it or low enough that it's in their purchasing range. Do you have a better alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 01:03 PM
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Why is everything you post just a thinly veiled insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:46 PM
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The more time I spend here the more I come to the conclusion that BP are totally ok with RP but not with the deliberately offensive language, anger phasers/incels or in general idiots who moan instead of putting in effort and posturing of stupid newbies. I talk about it pretty regularly offline and most people are pretty agreeable or offer their own examples to support the narrative. I've said for a while that the red pill has a PR problem and could very easily reword the message to be more pala…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 10:10 PM
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It's never about RP principals themselves, or the fact that many average and 'successful' men still find themselves in the world of RP for whatever reasons; guys who have the confidence to approach women but have weak style and game, guys who can get dates but fail to close the deal, guys in LTRs but who are uncertain and have weak frame, or they feel that their LTRs are lackluster and unfulfilling, maybe they're tired of being boyfriends all the time and just want to get better at scoring ONS a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 09:58 PM
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Oh, that's you? Where do you find the time for all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 09:52 PM
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A third world country with traditional values. She makes most of the american women I've ever dated look really spoiled in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 09:47 PM
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So while I disagree with (/am not sure about) a lot of RP specifics, it seems to have a solid scientific basis. Been saying so from the beginning. Most of the out there beliefs are just extrapolating and interpreting information that we already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:03 PM
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There are so many good things to say about her that I don't even know where to start. I will say this, she is far far far away from the average woman here. Not being raised in the US probably had a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:58 PM
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Couldn't have said it better. It's part of why I find this place so amusing. I really think PPD has better political discourse than most of reddit and it's honestly pretty shit here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:45 PM
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Good god. Every time I'm about to post a response to something you've already beat me to it. Hahaha, you save me a lot of time on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:19 PM
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This right here. If describing the way reality works makes you butthurt, then you are still in the anger phase. IMO, the bar is set pretty low to be above average. If you can't hack it you're doing the wrong shit or didn't work hard enough. I think the most "unfair" thing is all the bad advice floating around out there. If that's all you have to go on growing up, you're going to have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:12 PM
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All this stuff about covert contracts that women make...every woman I've been involved with has been pretty straight with me. If you're with someone and it's more than a one-night stand then you talk about the relationship and where it's headed. There's nothing covert about it; normal people communicate with one another directly and voice their particular desires, concerns, etc. I would say the large majority of the casual sex partners I've had were upset I didn't commit to them. Most notably, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:03 PM
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This is pretty much the belief of the average person. Most people don't care about all this and get on with their lives just fine. The thing people refuse to believe with the gender wars crap is that each side has a political opinion. Think about something like the abortion debate. Pro-lifers literally believe that abortion is murder. They believe that murder is a worse crime than suffering some female autonomy. Can you get behind why they believe that or are you going to tell them they are wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:57 PM
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A quick glance at that article and something about that r of 0.6 should raise a red flag. Checking the sourced study reveals it's a typo, Should be 0.16. And if you take the raw data sets from those studies and plot them Where are the raw data sets?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:16 PM
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Anybody else google this dude? He's pretty filthy and definitely punching above his weight on that one. http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/2/6/p/c/5/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300x0.26fr5.png/1348851601000.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 12:43 AM
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Mental illness is statistically gendered. Specific illnesses plague each gender at different rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:34 PM
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I'm simply wondering why people are using n-count to gauge craziness, when craziness manifests far more clearly and visibly than n-count. It seems counter-intuitive. It's harder to hide crazy than it is to hide n-count. And I'm telling you you're straight up wrong about how easy it is to detect the "crazy". Sure, the nuttier you are the easier it will be to tell. But how many alcoholics have been hiding it from their spouse for years and somehow living under the same roof? How many chronic gambl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 12:00 AM
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Respect people. The only context I've ever heard it in was a "Give me special treatment!!" kind of way. Then again I don't go around groping women though. I've had a number of women grope me in a bar setting before and if I told them to respect men, I'd be laughed out of the joint.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:29 PM
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I would say that understanding how other groups think has solidified the fact that I don't identify with them or their reasoning for their beliefs. I certainly think it's interesting to know that line of reasoning well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:13 PM
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I've been coming here for a decent while now. This place and r/thebluepill have definitely made me more red.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:11 PM
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This is not my stance. My stance is that it matters, if it matters to the dude. Obviously. I myself am initially wary of high-n men -- it matters to me why (sexually exploratory or messed up? Sexually exploratory gets a pass, but "I had to fuck 60 chicks to validate myself'' does not, especially if he still has those issues. Then what was the point of this whole discussion? I just don't think all of the attendant stuff that RPers go on about is NOT always attendant. You're a smart person. You sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:08 PM
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Hahahaha I travel a lot and it's completely true. Single life is worse in areas with higher obesity rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:43 AM
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Well not with girl two. She never made it that far before being ruled out. I never would have known because I didn't know her long enough. I would have dated girl one in a heart beat. Just logistically wasn't doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 02:14 AM
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Yeah I suppose that could be the case. That number still seems strangely low to me though. Whatever it is, the article certainly isn't specific on. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 02:09 AM
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To be more clear, what I meant to say was that we have no way to quantify the exact extent to which biology influences us. I think it's way higher than people think... like 80% of our personality comes down to genetics and gene expression. Obviously, I have nothing to back that up, just a wild prediction about where the science is going. As we understand genes better, they're finding that various environmental triggers activate our existing genes. Obvious example: Someone who has a genetic predi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:31 AM
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Possibly. I mean, I didn't have any one night stands, all FWB situations and didn't typically hook up immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:23 AM
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I would imagine all the feminists are going to say its all social construct. The truth is we don't know or have a way to quantify it. As the understanding of the human brain changes, we will know more. I predict they will find a surprisingly large amount of our personalities are genetic, so my answer is "more than people think" IMO, a lot of the current discussion should be about why society developed the way it did given sex differences. There is a lot of things to think about here and feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 06:07 PM
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I wouldn't. Many of my friends have had extended stays in psych wards and seem perfectly normal. Most mental illness is mild and those types don't end up in psych wards, let alone for an extended stay. My point is that they're everywhere and people hide it a lot better than you think. When you have access to people's medical records, it kind of shatters that perception of what's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:57 PM
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Honestly, I don't know. When you go on ''vibe'' you often get this kind of thing very, very wrong. You don't need to know. You're just determining probabilities in your head. Its like when a poker player makes a bet determined on the probability of certain cards still being available combined with the actions of his opponent. You can't tell me that that is not a skill that people develop or that it is even wrong the majority of the time. If it is right slightly more than half of the time, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:51 PM
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Yeah I'm highly skeptical of that estimate. I'd have to read up on their criteria. It's something around 25% of adults are on mood stabilizers and that doesnt encompass all mental illness or account for the large number of people who go undiagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:02 PM
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No, you're not going to know her exact number, especially when people lie and often don't even know their own. But you are going to notice behavior, know who there friends are and what their friends have to say about them, what their views are on sex, a rough history of their previous relationships, how easy they are to bed, how experienced they are in bed. By themselves these things don't mean much, but picking up on tiny little details of your interactions with someone paints a fuller picture …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 02:02 PM
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You're highly functional in specific ways that allow you to succeed. That's nice and you're doing well it seems. I think your point is that a potential suitor would notice the "crazy" before knowing how promiscuous you've been. If you're that visibly crazy then sure, you're right. You're probably also smart enough to realize that airing your sex history is likely bad for your professional reputation. But I'm telling you, you'd be shocked how many very normal seeming people have all sorts of fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:40 PM
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hahahaha i didn't even notice that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:31 PM
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Hahaha it was pretty funny to read your old post. My SO's count is pretty low and she is pretty much the polar opposite of what you wrote there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:29 PM
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Hahaha it was pretty funny to read your old post. My SO's count is pretty low and she is pretty much the polar opposite of what you wrote there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:27 PM
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I'll take a more medical definition here. N-count is a risk factor. A risk factor is a trait that by itself is not necessarily a problem for your health but contributes a percentage chance of having a problem. Obesity is an example of a risk factor. Alone it won't cause diabetes, heart disease, or joint problems. But combine it with a poor diet, lack of exercise, and genetic predisposition and you have a very unhealthy person. As I posted elsewhere, N count is highly suggestive of novelty seekin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:22 PM
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Actually, most people are pretty good at hiding their craziness. The prevalence of mental illness is insanely high and most of those people learn to function at a pretty high capacity within the boundaries of their mental illness in society. These people are flawed but functional. The ones who can't even maintain a semblance of normalcy right out the gate are ones you're immediately wary of, first impressions and all. If they're women, proceed with extreme caution. If they're male, they're incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:14 PM
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Why don't you just screen for the issues? Most people do. N count is highly suggestive of novelty seeking, risk taking behavior, predisposition to addiction, and potentially different morals, on top of risk for STDs and higher chances of mental instability. While not everyone could necessarily articulate their problem with it, they all feel a little uneasy. There are a lot of reasons why someone might not even want to bother at that point. N count doesn't exist in a vacuum. Your brain doesn't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:05 PM
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It's most certainly a correlation. There isn't nearly enough data on it to contribute n count as the cause. It's not an unreasonable assumption that an impulsive novelty seeking behavior would contribute to a negative overall state of well being, but it would be extremely difficult to even set up a study to test that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 12:50 PM
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Thats an entirely different concept. Seeking a lot of ONS correlates well with a host of other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:56 AM
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Unfortunately, I have no better theories than RP offers. Have you guys experienced something similar? Why do you think this occurs? Have you ever successfully prevented this from happening? The only time I experienced anything remotely similar was when I discovered RP and that solved my problem pretty quickly. But there are a lot of differences too so you likely won't have the same solution. I mean, you're having sex every day. RPW has given some advice on this, but they seem to think that this …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 10:37 PM
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Having "surrendered" a little bit in my marriage myself, I'm willing to believe that not all egalitarian relationships are quite as 50/50 as they profess, but I've also come to notice that the C/FM marriages described here aren't quite as one-sided as the dynamic has been traditionally described. There's probably a lot of truth in this. It's all in how you define these terms. I tend to call my relationship traditional in that we fit traditional gender roles pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 10:19 PM
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Hahaha touche. I laughed pretty hard at the thought of trickle-down women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 07:02 PM
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It would be really hard to put a number on it, but I think that there are a lot more unhappy people in relationships than people pretend there is. It's like when you're a kid and all your aunts and uncles seem so cool and happy when you see them at Thanksgiving only to grow up and find out who cheated on who, who is completely fucked up in the head, who has crippling depression, and who is just that weird fuck that nobody can stand. You mostly only see other people's relationships at their best.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 06:52 PM
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Same, to the point where I'm very skeptical of this article. Im not nearly as good looking as these guys and had a lot more action when I was on there. It was very easy to have 4 new dates a week if I wanted. Also, good looking women I know usually have the amount of matches as guys they swipe right on. These numbers seem weirdly low. Maybe they were a lot more selective in who they swiped back? I mean I wasn't swiping every girl on there but didn't look at them too hard when getting initial mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 03:57 PM
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Not to invalidate your experience or anything but there are a variety of reason why that is a silly move on his part. It potentially demonstrates possessiveness, insecurity from potential competition, lack of experience, and foresight. What if you have sex and it's absolutely awful? Now you have to break up? Not saying this is the case but when you've been around the block a few times you're going to be a little more prudent than committing before fucking a single time, no matter how awesome she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 02:48 PM
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Parenting is certainly a large part of it. The interesting bit though is this. My parents do not offer any dating advice. They don't have much to give that isn't generic common sense type crap. They taught her to work hard and think for herself. My sister has a good head on her shoulders and is good at taking a step back and thinking before she does something. It's a talent that a lot of human beings lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:55 PM
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Birth Control
/r/MarriedRedPill03/01/17 07:47 PM
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I'm about the same age as you. Like I said, my university regularly makes the news for some of the stupidest shit. There are protests almost every day, particularly around american holidays. They don't even pretend to hide their bias as they cook politics into their lesson plans. To add, as far as timing goes, I don't live there anymore, but I think that a decent amount of the dumb shit like mansplaining was born there. Not saying mansplaining specifically was, but they're certainly "thinkers" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:47 PM
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Right. It's kind of interesting. Weed here is ridiculously easy to come by. It's not legal where I'm at but everybody and their mom has some. Cocaine is available here but most people who've done both Adderall and Cocaine vastly prefer Adderall. On the other hand, cocaine is cheap as fuck south of the US and pretty much everywhere. While the weed can be expensive and even imported from the states
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:42 PM
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I was told specifically by someone who knew a shitload of medical students: they're all on diazepam and codeine. Hahaha, not my school. Here the drugs of choice were marijuana and Adderall
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:34 PM
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I rarely encounter it much outside of university, maybe 3-5 times a year. But at my university, it was fucking everywhere. You couldn't walk onto main campus without encountering some SJW type protest. FWIW, my university is one of those american liberal strongholds and is frequently in the news for liberal retardation. I like a lot of liberal ideas. I do. But this place was like living on another planet with some of the stupidest ideas and whiny protests from some of the most privileged people …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:24 PM
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i just attribute it to being bad apples. Kind of like how some women get with abusive boyfriends. It makes sense to be wary afterwards and take precautions, but you can't just go around being afraid of a whole gender because of it. I'm not afraid of a whole gender but I'll tell you what. Protecting yourself is pretty easy if you know what to look for and take necessary precautions. I didn't get nailed to the wall because I proactively took steps to avoid potential threats. Call it paranoia but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:13 PM
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Nahhh, never married that one but she did attempt to hit me pretty hard financially. I caught her doing some shady shit and ran a background check on her. You know what I learned from that background check? Women get away with a LOT of shit due to sympathy. Crying your way out of a ticket is one thing but holy shit that one was a big shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:28 PM
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It's obviously a guess. We will never have an exact numbers and the only reliable data we have is on online dating, which suggests the number of men who can be reasonably successful while being passive is extraordinarily low. Do you have any data to suggest otherwise because I would love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:23 PM
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The only 2 i really agree with is the wall, somewhat, but i also have a different view of the 80/20 rules because i, with a risk of humblebragging, was part of the 20%. And i saw just how fucking bad the remaining 80% of men were. They just sat at home, smoking weed, playing video games, getting fat, incapable of holding up a conversation and then they came to me asking me how i managed to hook up so much. I never really blamed women for only wanting 20% of the men, because the way i saw it 80% …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:13 PM
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I avoid golddiggers by exclusively dating independent women who have career ambitions and are well educated. I also expect her to pay for half of pretty much everything. Hahaha, exactly what my gold-digger was. A highly educated, ambitious career woman. She was smart enough to be consistent in her lies, ambitious enough to go through with it long term, and extremely supportive in the fact that the more I advanced, the more she could milk. Nowadays I avoid gold diggers by being stingy as fuck and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:46 PM
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10% of eligible men maybe? 5%? It's small.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:41 PM
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I have a pretty high income job. Dated a gold digger once. Let me tell you, they're not obvious. A good gold digger is very good at hiding her intentions. They're long term con artists. Typically intelligent and good actors. how i shouldn't idolize women, always wear a ocndom because some girls are crazy and warned me about some women getting fat after marriage when they've "locked down" a man. I was taught to always wear a condom but nothing about idolizing women. I guess I learned from experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:29 PM
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Here's some I can think of off the top of my head. 80/20 rule: Learned that one in high school when a select few Chads cleaned house compared to everyone else. The wall: Learned that one in my late 20s when I found every girl I'd meet getting concerned about rushing to get married and have children asap. I also started noticing how bitter and jaded they tended to be, how people I grew up with did not take care of themselves. No thanks. AWALT: A lot of guys have said this one to me throughout the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:24 PM
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You mean most women and a very small minority of men can afford to be passive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 02:06 PM
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Have a sister but she is too young. I was already living away and fairly successful with women before her formative years. She was raised mostly by men though and turned out pretty damn based AF in a works hard and makes fun of whiny liberals and feminists kind of way. I'm pretty proud because I had nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 01:55 PM
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This place is for debating the merits of Red Pill. Some of us believe pretty firmly in it (red) or are fairly against it (blue). Some agree with some points from one side and some from the other side, hence the term purple. I don't believe every single thing posted on TRP but my flair is red because I've found I align with them a MUCH more than I do the average blue piller here. Maybe say 80/20. If I was 50/50 or even 60/40 I'd call myself purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:24 AM
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Sounds like your understanding of class is relatively simplistic. That or you tried to tie a larger concept into a fairly simple message. You could have boiled the whole post down to "Don't hang around crappy people, I don't and don't have these problems" You simply made an outrageous claim. There are countless people with similar values to yourself that have drug addictions and mental illness. It's incredibly naive to think your social circles are immune to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:19 AM
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Yes, but it's not the default. Respect is earned. She has earned it several times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:07 AM
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Rich kids are bored and have money. Secondly, studies have shown intelligence correlates pretty strongly with drug experimentation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:56 PM
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The difference is that most people on TRP are harmless basement dwellers and people working on themselves while TBP is full of users who wouldnt hesitate to destroy your livelihood and reputation if given the opportunity. Honestly who do you think is more dangerous? One group is highly supportive of the erosion of free speech, due process, and supports having the police on speed dial in case their neighbour has different opinions than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:41 PM
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Looked this girl up. Absolutely surgically enhanced. How is anybody even questioning this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:07 PM
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She's absolutely surgically enhanced, just didn't get anything extreme. A lot of these fitness models are extremely processed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:02 PM
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I liken TBP's amount of honest representation of the other side to that of r/politics. That's honestly how it looks from the other side. They don't even attempt to understand. They just find the best quotes to support a predetermined agenda regardless of context or whether it actually makes sense. Often times the post has nothing to do with TRP but they all circlejerk about it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:51 PM
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I never screened for these because in my social sphere I never encounter these girls. I wouldn't even know where to find a girl like this if I wanted one. And I guess I could understand if a girl has a criminal record and drug addiction it's not a stretch to see her behaving as TRP often describes women. Drug addiction is very prevalent in middle class and upper middle class America. Same with mental illness which penetrates all levels of society. You don't know where to find people who are stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:26 PM
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N count obviously matters, but its only one of many variables when evaluating a potential partner and alone won't tell you much. It's more an indicator than a determinant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 05:37 PM
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That's where you started improving. You blew past one of her bullshit rules about what you can and can't do with your own body. That was the beginning of reclaiming your self-respect. Yeah pretty much. It was arbitrary bullshit she thought was best because feelz. The best part of your post is that she started going to the gym on her own and lost the weight. The interesting part about this was that I was ALWAYS in better shape than her. It wasn't a higher SMV than her that she responded to. It wa…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/17 12:05 AM
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Why do people try so hard to fix everyone here into near little boxes? I work with highly intelligent UMC. Red pill type mindset is pretty prevalent although I wouldnt say it is anywhere near a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 11:40 PM
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Hahaha im glad you commented. I will come back to this post later.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/12/16 07:18 PM
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You discovered all this reading Deadbedrooms and without a plan from the beginning? It is surprising how you just stumbled into each step in sequence. Gratz. Oh hell no. Sorry if it wasn't very clear. I discovered MMSL from deadbedrooms, which led me to r/theredpill and r/marriedredpill. Most of what I did was based on MMSL and things I read here.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/12/16 12:58 AM
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Thanks. I honestly don't even feel it was intentional on her part. With the gym I think it's almost like she wanted immediate comfort like an attention addict and never thought about the long term consequences of encouraging laziness in me. I didn't really notice at the time I first stopped going until I realized I was starting to look kind of shitty.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/12/16 12:05 AM
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Thanks man. Although I'm not a regular reader, I enjoy the blog. Info teaching about masculinity wasn't available like this when I was growing up. Real masculinity and being with someone who appreciates that has made life so rewarding. I also read your post on dead bedrooms. Although they didn't receive it well, I couldn't help but laugh at the irony of a handful of women at the bottom of the thread wishing there husbands would follow your advice. I was lucky to stumble upon a MMSL recommendatio…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/12/16 11:48 PM
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I've posted this before, but most behavior exists on a spectrum and people's personalities fall on a spectrum. Men and women's personalities exist on the same spectrum, just on separate bell curves with different standard deviations. That's sexual dimorphism in a nutshell. Do you follow me? RP attracts plenty of bitter losers who have no idea what they're talking about. They're easy to pick out because they just rehash talking points. Lot of posters here have a hard time paying attentions with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:54 PM
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Perspective is a hell of a drug, isn't it. My reality is really nice, I promise. It's interesting though, seeing how offended people are by other perspectives. It's like the pro choice vs pro life argument. I find it very easy to put myself in the shoes of both groups and their very emotional reasoning for why they support their decisions. Very easy. Does anyone else think like that? Similarly I find it very easy to think non-RP. I lived almost my whole life like that. I can reflect from two dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:15 PM
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I've decided I will write a post on this when I have the time. Stay tuned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:09 PM
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I'm also extroverted and like parties. While I'm not into the rave scene or related drugs, I enjoy my fair shair of wild shit. That being said, I can't even respond because its just so different from my world. Parties like that are not common here unless you have access to a lot of money or know someone who does. I'm thinking of writing a post in your style to highlight some of the differences. It will certainly be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:08 PM
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I have a feeling you grew up in a very different environment than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 01:54 PM
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This is my answer. I had to get dragged through the mud a few times but love the person I've become. I wouldn't have become this if I didn't go through those tougher moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 07:22 PM
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When it's currently happening to your close friends, its pretty hard to believe it's no longer a thing. Scary to witness a smart, vindictive bitch go for the jugular and get everything she wants. Even my super conservative Christian parents agree I need a prenup in the modern dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 11:52 AM
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This surgery is very common. Much more common than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 09:07 PM
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Scored a 9
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:22 PM
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Then it's not a good point. I'm no Chad and reading there doesn't make me feel the least bit insecure. If you're so intelligent you should be able to make the connection that your argument is a personal anecdote about you being attractive and insecure, thus the things that make you feel insecure are bad. It would be better to discuss the specific elements and why you think they're bad. I know I have plenty of particular criticisms. But all you've given us to go on is how great you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 12:53 PM
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Haha not bad guesses. I'm pretty paranoid about being doxxed though so I'll have to leave it at that. I will say that I'm not a primary care physician and I own a private practice. I'm happy to discuss the business side or human interactions in my job, just not the job itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 10:03 PM
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I've thought about it quite a bit and I'd love to discuss my job in detail here. Plenty of pill-worthy discussion, but I'd rather not invite the internet into my professional life. There are enough unstable, militant feminists out there who would destroy your life over offending their sensibilities. I would know as I've treated quite a few like this and they're extremely trigger happy with the lawyers. Very, very dangerous, scary people and the fact that they're populating places like reddit mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:51 PM
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Its not that they dont try, its that they dont do the right shit. One thing I find to be a common trait in these types is stubbornness Work smarter not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:18 PM
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No botox. My business has a long way to go and I actually passed up on a lot of money to open it. Personal freedom was a lot more important than money. That will come anyway as the reputation grows. I got a long career ahead of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:12 PM
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Net. Businesses often gross over a million in my field. If you're the owner, you can net 500k easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 07:59 PM
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Not all docs are rich, many are paying of loans for a large percentage of their careers, and a lot of them really bust their asses for their pay. I deal with a lot of fuck heads making all kinds of assumptions on a somewhat frequent basis. That being said, the average income in my field is like 250k. When you're young you might not hit that but it's fairly common for people to make in the 300-400k range. I haven't hit that but have made significant risk that will have big long term payoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 07:15 PM
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This is because women as a group are not net tax payers, they pay and always have paid less than they benefit from the govt and it's in their interests to have more govt I'm surprised this isn't more common knowledge seeing as how much more money we invest into specific women's issues, including a number of very areas where women out perform men including health, healthcare, and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:43 AM
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I guess all of them drank occasionally, but like I said, none of the chads I knew smoked cigarettes. That was the only absolute that was consistent. Also all the kids in my AP classes in high school were stoners and had the coolest parties Thats pretty interesting. Most of the kids in my AP classes were indian and asian and fat, pimply white knight types. That being said, a very large percentage of very intelligent people smoke weed or have smoked weed. In fact, intelligence correlates pretty st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:40 AM
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The most common cited reasons for preferring taller men are a sense of security and to feel more feminine (in other words, social esteem).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:34 AM
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Ahh yes. And video games are a sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:20 PM
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Well any Chad I've known is very physically fit. I hate to reinforce the stereotype but they've always coincidentally been pretty buff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:19 PM
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you think it was women who were behind most of this? The position of most people arguing with you is that the each gender defines what is attractive and reinforced in the other gender. Also, the feminist version of history ignores the fact that gender roles weren't rigid throughout history and people generally did what worked best in a difficult world where you didn't have a lot of choices in life. You did what you needed to do to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:04 PM
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Evolution is a scientific theory. The standard of proof is much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:56 PM
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Sure, I was being facetious. But you cannot deny that a lot of feminist theory is based on a very specific interpretation of historical events.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:50 PM
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Because it's easy to paint the other gender as weak depending on how you want to define it. Women's preference for taller men could be easily explained as a self-esteem issues for women. But we don't define it that way because that would be silly. Shouldn't be hard to treat both genders with the same courtesy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:49 PM
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Can't say I've noticed any particular patterns in regards to drug use like this but ill say that every Chad I could ever think of did not smoke cigarettes. A few smoked weed or used chewing tobacco.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:36 PM
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So is women having a very statistically strong preference for taller men just protecting their self interest too because there are a number of other metrics like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:36 PM
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It's called feminist theory for a reason. Men being responsible for existing gender roles is just a guess based on the fact that most people in power were males. Most humans are motivated by what's popular or gives them success. When it comes to attraction, what is popular is going to be dictated by the opposite sex. Do you have any compelling evidence that this is not the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:24 PM
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People do plenty of mental gymnastics to make ideology fit their lived experience. You're going to see it on both sides of the spectrum. The truly foolish IMO are the ones that don't realize all viewpoints have their own bias. Personally, I notice the "gotcha" questions tend to have more to do with the individual than the ideology. This place is interesting to me because that human bias is on display for everyone to see in a semi-civil discussion. The other interesting thing is that I find some …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:10 PM
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Posting my answer in both threads Straight male, midwest, upper middle class, above average looks, 30. I will answer both questions because I think the difference is interesting. Casual sex on command is pretty difficult to get. I'd have a particularly hard time going out to a bar or club and reliably bringing a girl home that night. Give me a couple of dates with handful of different girls and I'd eventually find a few that I click with. It requires a lot of upfront work. Getting a little harem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 04:09 PM
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Straight male, midwest, upper middle class, above average looks, 30. I will answer both questions because I think the difference is interesting. Casual sex on command is pretty difficult to get. I'd have a particularly hard time going out to a bar or club and reliably bringing a girl home that night. Give me a couple of dates with handful of different girls and I'd eventually find a few that I click with. It requires a lot of upfront work. Getting a little harem of FWBs over time is not too diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 04:07 PM
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Eh, I don't find confidence to be a plus, but a lack of self-esteem is definitely a minus in my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:55 PM
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I think honestly women feel bad sometimes that they arent attracted to a a genuinely good guy. I know as a guy I feel bad for meeting good women and not feeling attracted. It shows how shallow I am . I was going to post something along these lines yesterday but forgot. When I was younger, I used to get comments like this all the time. Girls would genuinely feel bad about letting me down. It was fucking sad and I got it quite a bit. The whole nice guy thing was almost entirely reinforced by femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:07 PM
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Most men I know considered it bragging about sexual assault. As do 3 million idiots on r/politics who're blinded by partisan views. What he said was completely true and plenty of celebrities and musicians have said the same shit and nobody ever bats an eye. It's just because he is running for office and people don't like him. The context was pretty obvious: Being rich and powerful makes you more attractive to women. The dude said it in a clearly boisterous way but non-consent was only ever impli…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:57 PM
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Virtually everything about modern feminism is wrong. Solving the one issue that I kind of maybe agree a little wouldn't change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:40 PM
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I don't think, and really don't hope, that TRP is representative of what most guys talk about in Male spaces. If they do, that really just gives credibility to feminists. I wouldn't go that far, but as many other posters have pointed out in the past, most men I know were completely unfazed by Donald Trumps "grab em by the pussy" comment because TBH, we say infinitely raunchier shit than that on a regular basis. Locker room talk isn't happening in a locker room (unless it's college sports), its m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:04 AM
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The forum? No it will never exist without those things by nature of who is there: Newbs and the perpetually bitter. As long as it is catered to fostering and giving advice, this will be the most common type of content. Besides, a fully realized man doesn't have all this time or would even want to fuck around on the internet all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:59 AM
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Sounds like you're just drinking the feminism koolaid a bit too much. Most people prioritize whatever the fuck they feel like. Nobody is stopping you from getting a job, being a stay at home mom, fucking 100 dudes, or dating a guy that just fits well. Its really ironic to me that the women who're always judging other women's decisions in life are always feminists. You assume so much about the inner motivations of other women. Very condescending post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:51 AM
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Dude Olive Garden is gross. Bottom-tier italian food.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:32 AM
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What I am referring to is those men who, perhaps even subconsciously, expect the woman to 'change' for them and to lead her into their life because they expect her to support them without returning the favour, basically Your examples are bad. The whole mantra of MRP is that you cannot change your wife and can only change yourself. Become someone who is worthy of being followed. And I really couldn't give two shits about dating any feminists anyway so that makes things easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:31 AM
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I didn't bother reading your last thread because it was long and I have more important things to do but this is what I'd say to that: Sure, you can always find some examples of RP media if you look hard enough. It's pretty dishonest to act like it's some big majority though. The difference back then was that there was no internet, no third party to easily refer to. All you had was TV, friends, and family to rely on. Now, there is way more information available and yet, kids these days are whinie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:46 PM
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Really reaching with that one...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:32 AM
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No because the horrible reality is simply that all humans have a certain degree of shittiness to them. There are just different patterns in the type of shitty that you typically see in men vs women. Recognizing the female patterns of shittiness doesn't change anything. The world keeps chugging along at the end of the day so the only thing that has really changed is your perspective and feelings. If your perspective is making you feel shitty, change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:58 PM
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I'm in perfect health. The maximum health plan is far above that. Minimum plans for me ran around 2500 a year. It's going up this year by something like 30% in this area but I have a weird situation so dont know where ill end up. The issue is twofold, even though there's a lot of upper middle class here, its mixed in with a ton of people right at that poverty line. Secondly, people live outside their means a lot around here. Taking out loans to afford that half a million dollar house. It's insan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 05:48 PM
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I'm in the midwest. Cost of living is actually extremely cheap here on top of being one of the richer places in the state. as I said, divorces are hard. but a no fault divorce is still a hell of a lot easier than a you-cheated-on-me divorce. For many they're logistically impossible. And that divorce will be exactly the same if she already despises you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:31 PM
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You're trivializing a very real issue. A large amount of people literally cannot afford it. It's not boohoo my assets are being split. It's I'm barely living above the poverty line with no disposable income and now I'm paying legal fees up the ass and paying for two apartments instead of one home. I work in an area where the median income is like 90k a year and I can't tell you how many people there are living paycheck to paycheck with only a couple hundred dollars to their name. Its endless. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:05 PM
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Yeah there are tons of women who write stupid bullshit like this in their profiles. I can't speak for the other half of the idiot coin but it's stupid enough to be believable. I personally ran into a lot of the r/ChoosingBeggars variety when I was on there: Ugly, fat, single mothers looking for a real man who's over 6 foot and makes over 100k. Hahaha, I wonder what they accomplish by doing this? Who're they trying to convince here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:24 PM
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I don't really have anything to add to your question but I will say this. When I was on tinder, the first girls who were ruled out for any kind of dating or interaction were the ones who made a bunch of rules. There are plenty of very attractive girls on there who are very open to new experiences and easy to get along with. The interactions are simple and flow naturally. On the other hand, you have women who want you to jump through a bunch of hoops before even meeting them. You have to qualify …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:07 PM
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My post isn't suggesting TRP should change strategy or that TRP guys should want to be with dominant women, it's directed at the concept of AWALT, which from everything I've seen on TRP seems to be a literal belief. There are plenty of stupid people out there who can't think for themselves. If you think that everyone fits into a box without exception then you need to get outside more. I think it's prudent to treat everyone like they can potentially fuck you over, because a lot of them will if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:25 AM
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As I've posted in the past, it was a culmination of things. -Went to a super liberal university surrounded by crybaby feminists. Dated a few, never again. -Trial and error dating experience took me from a blue to a reddish purple -History of egalitarian relationships that didn't seem equal or stacked against me. -Years of dead bedroom and trying everything under the sun to fix it led to some unique advice I had never seen before. About 2 years ago started implementing it and getting immediate re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:58 PM
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They struggle in that they are less likely to tend to their own social life and being a doctor is not the "bonus" that it is for men. A large percentage of them pair off within their med school.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:01 PM
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It's really a numbers game. If I sought out a dominant woman who in a bar with 100 women, id be lucky to find one who is interested in me. On the other hand, if I was seeking a submissive woman, id practically only be limited by the number of women who are attracted to me. It's just not a good game plan to seek out dominant women. And personally, I just fine being dominant much more fun. Im sure youd agree and thus, you really wouldnt be on my radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:59 PM
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Honestly, I don't care enough to read all that but here's my critique at a glance. -Many of those weren't even fixed. It was more like a celebration of a moment in the right direction, which is essentially meaningless if you've been through this as there is plenty of steps forward and backwards -Highly, highly subjective post. He graded them based on what categories he thought they fit into based on a number of posts that weren't able to attribute a specific cause to their success. -The most imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:08 AM
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Yeah, the most successful way is definitely to find a good balance, IMO. I don't disagree with what you're saying. Only thing that bothers me is how much people cling to the idea that being nice is the solution to everything. Even on these forums where people swear up and down that nobody says that, not being nice is constantly seen as the reason people aren't getting laid. I mean, get real. It's just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:49 AM
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I'm sure you would accept, or at least I hope you would accept, that it's only a small percentage of women who can realistically hope to model professionally Sure, I never said otherwise. On the otherhand, I would wager that nude modeling is a lot easier to get into than modeling clothing. Modeling clothing requires attractive women with very specific body types that fit the clothes and are marketed to women. Nude modeling simply requires you to be hot, something that is relatively common in com…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:32 AM
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Yeah. That or i spent years there in a community full of people who were similarly running in place. Most of those people run out of fucks to give after so much neglect. Its a symptom of the dead bedroom, not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:04 PM
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I enjoy brutal honesty as well although most human beings don't tend to offer it. In general, humans have a bias towards attractive people. We think they're nicer than unattractive people. Its just pretty interesting to observe in women with a dude who's clearly a dickhead. I've seen it enough times to be pretty shocked. Im not aware of a comparable reaction for men who're with aggressive or mean women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:00 PM
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Oops, I was replying in regards to your original comment here It's also not fair that we men drool over Playboy bunnies, while rating average women who have maximised their looks, The vast majority of average human beings have not maximized their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 07:15 PM
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I would agree that that's the key differentiation between what we're describing. Being on a similar level intellectually is important to my SO and I because it gives the relationship legs and we can have good conversations. Most women don't want to "bro out" as I call it and discuss the intimate little detail. But for the ones who do, I can't think of a single instance where a woman was turned on by an interesting conversation. It was more in how I spoke and carried myself vs the actual knowledg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 07:13 PM
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Ignoring social intelligence for the sake of simplicity here, IME with women status and charisma are a hell of a lot more important than intelligence when it comes to attraction. Nobody gave a fuck about any of my medical knowledge when I was way ahead of the curve for years from 18 to 26. Slap doctor on your name and all of a sudden you're a goddamn hero and women gush about how smart you must be. I know morons who carry themselves with authority who have women lining up and conversely a number…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:45 PM
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sometimes I stop by on r/deadbedrooms and on a couple of occasions (among dozens of posts I've read) the problem is the HL party had stopped doing nice things to the LL one I spent years on that subreddit. You have the same problem as the chumps there by thinking these two things are related. You really think she stopped fucking him because he didn't bring her flowers? That was the first thing I tried when my ex and I got into a dead bedroom, upping the romance, cooking, and more dates. Didn't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 01:07 PM
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One thing I think is interesting when women describe their assholes is how they say it, "He's so nice to me" He's not a nice guy necessarily. He's nice to her which makes her feel special. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a woman swoon over a guy being a total douche bag to some random other person who didn't deserve it. I don't think kindness is relevant for sexual attractiveness and in the short term is not needed. However, in the long term, that person will eventually start to notice…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:53 PM
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Chad is just an extreme that is described to illustrate a point, mainly that looks and confidence trump all other factors like kindness and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:41 PM
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Your comment is laughable because the vast majority of average people have not maximized their looks. The average person is a fat slob who looks and dresses plainly. The average person could easily up their fashion, style, and lose some weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 12:38 PM
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It's not control over her sexuality if she wants the man to always lead. Because you don't have actual control. What you have is happy consent. Okay, but that's how many of these scenarios play out where someone naturally dominant finds someone naturally submissive. One person controls a number of aspects of the other person's life, something you have called disgusting and weak. So what, is he only a disgusting and weak person if the other person dislikes it? What if his last partner loved it bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:02 PM
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Not going to estimate any percentages as I don't have nearly enough information to make an educated guess, but where I live there is a decent enough population of urban women who have babies to qualify for government benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:57 PM
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I used to live in one of those super liberal cities where people love the smell of their own farts. It was like living in an alternate reality where everyone is better than everyone else. Tons of feminists/victims of their own low self esteem. Tons of echo chamber bigotry. It was like living in r/politics but a real place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:54 PM
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But don't you see that all you've done is redefine control as something that is inherently bad. Following your own definition, there can never be any exceptions. We both know the world isn't that black and white. Let's look at your examples of a controlling man. control over women's sexuality, A lot of women like this control over where they go and what they do, Again, a lot of people, men and women, don't like making these kinds of decisions and would rather have someone else do it. control of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:22 AM
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There's a reason they say "Black don't crack" Black people's skin tends to be sooo much better as they age than most all other ethnicities. It's crazy. I've seen quite a few very pretty older black women. Some latin and asian as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 12:03 AM
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There are a large amount of people who don't want to be in charge or make any of the important decisions. People are all on this spectrum and a large percentage of the population is most comfortable when they are simply following a script so to speak. It's entirely normal part of being human. Thing is, men and women like having different types of control, generally speaking. We generalize all day when it comes to work choices and there's plenty of data to back up gendered decisions on the amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 11:56 PM
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Thanks for the laugh, bro. Quite possibly the oddest play on words I've ever read on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:55 PM
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Well, reading feminism forums on the internet does make me thankful that my SO isn't a mentally unstable professional victim, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:33 AM
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you have no control over the mating process You have failed to demonstrate how me not qualifying for the majority of women invalidates that the vast majority of women do not qualify for me. If women lead, I would only be approached by women who do not qualify. But I only date women that do qualify, kind of like I had control over that process or something. Weird, I know. As I say, if you think leading women up the garden path, and then refusing to commit to them because you've read RP too much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:29 AM
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Women are the sexual selectors, men have no control over this. In this context, a meaningless statement and lacking any nuance. Besides, I am the commitment selector. Sure, women are advantaged but that doesn't mean I haven't filtered every woman that's walked through my door. The women I pursue are prequalified by me and have to continue to qualify. You take away men's ability to lead and they'll be that much more disadvantaged. you think this makes you powerful. Whoop-de-doo, well done. Thanks…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:33 PM
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They selected you. They could easily have rejected you As I have with them. Your point is stupid. I've rejected quite a bit of women in pursuit of the right one. I fucked a few, said no to a lot, and ended up with one I'm very happy with. I wouldn't have stopped fucking other girls if I wasn't happy with her. Those were all my decisions and wouldn't have happened if I didn't make them happen. Who cares if they also made decisions? You're distracting from the point that men pursue and women don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:25 AM
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Hmm, that explains why I had to end things with 6 women of my choosing when I started getting serious with my girlfriend. I never consented to have my decisions made for me! Curse these manipulative women who met in secret to rape my freedom of choice!! How could I be so blind to the illusion of control I thought I had! Or, you know, I picked the one I liked the best... Kinda like options or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:40 PM
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It would be horrible. It would eliminate the only real advantage men have in the dating arena: the ability to be in control of their dating life through hard work. It would be like communism for relationships. Everyone would get poor except for a select few who would stay rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:34 PM
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Yeah that sounds quite a bit better. I have some family members who read Nicholas Sparks books. In general, the main characters have super unhealthy definitions of love. Those books are an abomination and teaching people are sorts of fuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:36 PM
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I don't read any romance novels, but if Nicholas Sparks is anything to go by then all the main men are extreme betas with attachment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:54 PM
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Why is this believed and upvoted; yet when men say they were constantly told to be nice and be themselves; these are disbelieved as "false" and "never ever happens" and "you just chose to believe lies when the truth was right in front of your faces"? Interesting point. Thing is, if you repeat a lie enough, it seems true. "Men are too intimidated by strong woman" has been a feminist talking point for a years. Nice guys really took off when social media got popular and anonymous strangers started …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:12 AM
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I wasn't referencing it in a woman who brags about it. Well the post you were responding to was. He won't care unless she shoves it in his face, in which case he'd be turned off. It's fairly common. You can do that without bragging. You can. But the older single career woman who thinks men are too intimidated to date her is not that person. Humbleness is a lot less common than the other way around, IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 04:57 AM
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I think women with science degrees are hot. Then you haven't been to any of my orgo lectures O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:41 AM
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A woman's degree or job would never make her more attractive to me. Her acting like it makes her better (something that I've found surprisingly common in the dating world) comes off as bragging. Bragging is unattractive. FWIW, her actions that demonstrate intelligence are much more attractive than her status. Most men don't give a fuck about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:33 AM
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People are fatter and uglier than ever. If anything our standards as a society have gone down. It's just that the very attractive minority is slightly more attractive. The gap between average and the top has never been wider, but its mostly because people are grosser than ever and more likely than ever to be okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 05:21 PM
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I'm sure he doesn't. You're filtering for people who are easily manipulated for personal gains. Pawns in your story and not kings in their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:56 PM
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Read through OPs history. Plenty of interesting subject matter there on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 09:46 PM
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Basically, don't try to prove that you're safe and not a creep, YES! Sounds like you understood the point I was trying to make. By trying to not be a creep after labeled one, you are giving validity to what they think of you. You're giving weight to their negativity by letting it affect you. Dumbasses that believe that I'm some kind of creep or pedophile are using the same shitty thought processes as racists. I would say they're not exactly the same in that instance but pretty dang close. The sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:37 PM
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What happened to your tall skinny beta that was so amazing? Is he the one with the small dick or is that somebody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:25 PM
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Somehow missed your reply until now. It's deleted now but it said straight in the OP that they were specific examples from his relationship that might be helpful to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:21 PM
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You are seen as a creep and potential rapist YES! So lets take this one step further. What happens after that? It will be one of two things. 1) Absolutely nothing. She will forget about your existence and you can go on your creepy, rapey little approach and reflect on what you could have done better. Or 2) She will remember you and continue to see you at which point you have multiple opportunities to prove otherwise, unless you are a creepy rapist then I suggest you get your caffeine fix somewhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:13 PM
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If we're thinking of the same study, it was just a straight up correlation between N-count and mental health issues. They didn't differentiate between reasons why. Even so, same shit here. Many aspects of masculinity have no correlation with mental health issues according to the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:22 AM
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I tried looking for it once but had a hard time finding a link to the actual study. It's been posted on TRP a few times, so I should be able to find it though...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:18 AM
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Kind of reminds me of that study that says women with higher N-counts are more likely to have psychological problems. Does that one count now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:05 AM
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(alma and izlude anyone?) Izlude is a chump. Wiegraf FTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:47 AM
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I am getting married to one of the guys next year, as I explained, so... You're engaged? Didn't you recently meet your boyfriend or boyfriends??? Something isn't adding up Edit: OH, you're cheating on him because he has a small dick. https://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/5co2jd/how_do_you_know_your_girlfriend_is_not_riding_the/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:14 AM
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When I was single, literally anywhere and everywhere. Bars (I rarely drink more than 2 beers), online, and through friends are obvious enough. Networking is a major way to meet women. I've met girls at friend's work/bar night before. Through a local MMA guy who hosts events. Really if anybody had anything interesting going on in their lives, I made it a point to make friends with them and try some new shit out. I've learned plenty of interesting things I never thought I'd do and made a lot of ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:51 PM
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The wording of your posts is awfully similar to the ole "A high quality woman is a woman that RP doesn't work on." IME, a lot of women really enjoy traditional gender roles and "sexist shit". I personally enjoy gender roles and how they create tension between myself and the woman I'm with. I want to date a woman that celebrates and enjoys the fact that she is a woman, not a woman pretending to be a man. I want to date a woman with a pleasant disposition that's intoxicated by the masculine energy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:06 PM
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I mean the first one is just how women view men on paper. I mean of course on paper they want a nice guy... Every woman thinks her particular attractive asshole is a good guy. Whether he's good or bad is defined after she decides whether or not she's attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 12:33 PM
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One common criticism of feminism is that they come up with theories first and try to produce data to support said theory. It comes up quite a bit in how they phrase and frame their studies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:24 PM
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Times are definitely slowly changing as our male/female roles change. These ideas will likely fade given enough generations and financial/legal freedoms given to men and women. Complete deregulation of the SMP will be interesting to see, if I live that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:15 PM
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My views IRL are based on countless interactions with human beings. My statement on an online study is simply paraphrasing and possible interpretation of the results. Nowhere did I say that was my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:13 PM
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Yeah, I suppose why bother. It's just interesting to me. I find that a lot of BPers dig into some RPers profiles to find out if they're ugly or not, then they post in TBP, "Guy looks exactly like you'd expect, LOSER!" Sometimes I'm curious. I check people out to get an idea who I'm talking to, but I never point out that I think they're unattractive, in fact, ESPECIALLY if they're unattractive. Seems like a go-to argument for them to prove a point is "You're ugly"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:10 PM
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This is where you're going wrong. Going wrong with what, stating the findings of an online study? Reread what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:01 PM
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Neither nice or considerate require details of what I do in my personal free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:00 PM
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Hmm? Can you be more specific or give an example of how I am "reinforcing women are wonderful?" And when have I ever said anything to suggest I have no idea why someone with little going on can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:59 PM
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This is true. Most of the studies done on online dating show that the ugliest tier of women get about the same amount of attention as the most attractive tier of men. If we are going by this, a male 9 is close to a female 2 or 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:32 PM
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It's disrespectful Context is everything. If you are continually ignoring the emotional needs of your partner, then sure, you are being disrespectful. But acting like your own personal emotional needs extend to everybody is just false. The level of trust and reliability between my partner and I is a big factor. We are pretty high in both and thus, very little explanation is required for our actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:30 PM
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Dating a foreigner while knowing quite a few people who've married foreigners or have mail order brides, I have a little bit of unique perspective on this. First of all, there is a big difference between a mail order bride and a foreign-born wife. A mail order bride has very specific motives from the get-go that cannot be ignored. They are typically much more attractive than the man they're with. The men tend to be big losers, beta as fuck or just generally poor social skills. Their courting pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:24 PM
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Look at Miss America 1929 vs. Miss America 2000. I would say its save to say take a man from 1929 and plop him down in the year 2000 and while he might say the woman from 2000 is less attractive, his penis isn't going to lie. I would argue that the bigger difference between culture then and now is that our access to sexuality without being shamed is vastly different now from back then. On top of that, with the internet, the massive beauty market that exists now, and the amount of overall wealth …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:04 PM
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I never asked, but you generally know where there number likely floats around based on multiple conversations. I'd say I know where my SO sits plus or minus 1 or 2 with 99% certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:49 PM
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I totally agree that it equals out in RMV, but that's not what the OP is saying. I also agree that women put more effort in than just not eating. But let's be honest, they have a big advantage in SMV. How people even still debate this is amazing to me. I think a more interesting question would be this: Depending on how big the difference is between his RMV and SMV, how much sex is he getting in that relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:47 PM
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Women are wonderful. The stereotype is reinforced by men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:22 PM
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Eh... to counter your point, a male 8 is about the equivalent of the female 6 when it comes to power in the sexual marketplace. You'd have to raise yourself that much higher if you really wanted to be equal and thus, it is that much more difficult to be sexually attractive as a man. Let's look at it from a biological perspective: Women don't have this certain chemical pumping around nearly to the extent that men do that plays a key role in sex drive. We'll call it testosterone. Therefore, to tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:21 PM
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Plus, I googled him and he's on Twitter. He's not hot. Well now I HAD to look him up. Dude is jacked and takes good care of himself. Maybe you're not attracted to him but he's a farcry from unattractive. Do you not like beards? FWIW: Reddit is in love with Emma Watson while I find her fairly plain, a 6 at her best. But whatever, I'll acknowledge I'm an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:12 PM
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(Note, not on his points but on his actual examples) Why are we scoring his actual examples? These are going to be fairly specific to HIS relationship. Sex Outside The Bedroom We do this on pretty much every surface of everything. But SO is very much NOT into doing it if there is any remote chance we would get caught. I've dated girls who like it quite a bit in the past. Surprise Vacations Yup. Do this type of shit all the time. Some people are not as organized and need a little more heads up, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:58 PM
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LMAO, If I were to give my mom an explanation of where I was going and what I was doing, pigs would be flying. "Out" was the standard and probably best thing I could tell her growing up. If she ever questioned it, the response was, "Don't wooorry aboooout it!" We weren't dysfunctional or anything, but thinking this isn't a normal or common thing is pretty silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:19 PM
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Maybe because women place a lot of emphasis on maintaining an exclusive, emotional bond? There may be some truth to this or that women value different emotional attachments than men. I still think my explanation is more convincing. Or because they worry emotional cheating will lead to physical cheating? That doesn't make sense though because women are more likely to stay if their partner physically cheats. I'm not sure this is the case for most non-absolute monogamous species though -- at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:22 PM
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to my knowledge, women are more likely to forgive men who cheat versus men forgiving women who cheat. In that respect, I suppose it could be argued that it’s more damaging to men when women cheat, i.e., they can’t forgive and move past it. It is pretty well documented that this is the case. Additionally, evidence shows that women care more about emotional cheating than men do. Why do you think that is? Personally, I find it pretty fitting with evolutionary psychology. A woman can commit paternit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 10:45 PM
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I mean, it has personally happened to me on a number of occasions. Most of them wouldn't qualify anymore anyway, but its frequent enough to be a thing, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 04:15 AM
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So it doesn't happen except for when it does all the time? In what scenario exactly so many people having reunions multiple years later where theyre both still single excluding highschool? Youve excluded the first instance where this happens by far the most and we see many examples of this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 01:19 AM
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This argument is used all the time. Bad things happen to men less than women and thus, men's issues are less important to address right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 09:29 PM
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Because the feminist argument against men's rights is often that men's rights violations are not common and thus they don't need to be addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 08:22 PM
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I haven't responded to you yet because I needed to let this whole election sink in a little bit and thought you deserved a more well thought out response than the typical drivel posted here. Honestly, I didn't vote for the guy. He is a flawed candidate and highlighting his shadier business dealings is a perfect example of this. I did an absentee ballot and with the bullshittery going on in the weeks leading up, I almost went into a voting booth to change my vote TO trump for a few reasons. Mainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 01:41 AM
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So you're justifying threats legal action against people who exercise their free speech since Trump is just one man? Fixed and yes. If it's not true and he has a case, then he absolutely should. Not to mention, the dude has a legacy to look after. A bunch of liberals were completely disgusted with Mitt Romney in the last election cycle. The backlash against him and character assassination was fairly similar to how it's been for trump. He denied and ignored and guess what? Mitt Romney has a shitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:23 PM
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But to say that BP thought he was going to go around groping people is just so out-of-touch. The narrative was that he is endorsing sexual assault, wants to make these kinds of things acceptable, and degrades women Pretty damn close if you ask me. Completely different message than this: It is just my opinion that that statement is something that a president shouldn't be saying. If they wanted to take that angle, they probably would have had a much more effective message, but the message was that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:12 PM
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Let me put it to you this way: A few BPers the other week were talking about how you should have the police on speed dial if you know any RPers in real life. There are people out there, neighbors, friends, family, who's egos are so fragile that they would threaten legal action to protect their worldview. AND THEYRE FUCKING EVERYWHERE Being a republican was never popular at my college or where I grew up. Opposing opinions were mocked, shot down, and discussion was and still is discouraged. The mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:00 PM
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It's not desperate. I'm taking his statement as literal as possible. Did you listen to the "grab em buy the pussy" audio? He is quite literally talking about how Chad is allowed to get away with more than the average guy. That was literally the context of the conversation. How that isn't obvious to these boards is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:54 PM
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Basically from what I've seen is height like muscles is an amplifier. Sounds like you haven't been reading here much as this is the main opinion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:27 PM
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The logic is the same though. They were even talking about it on election coverage last night: The public sentiment was that you were a bad person if you voted for Trump, so people kept quiet about their opinions. Feminism has also created a culture where you're a bad person if you oppose their opinions. Speaking up and shaming the privileged is a primary part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:24 PM
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Are you kidding me? No one thought Trump would LITERALLY go around grabbing a woman's crotch. Lol. Come on. That was the narrative the media spun the whole time. They tried to pin all this sexual assault stuff on him and conveniently had a bunch of perfectly timed victims come out against him right when it happened. They were playing on people's emotional disgust with sex crimes. Their primary message wasn't on his crass language, lol. Are you serious? Stop acting like Terps are more logical. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:20 PM
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Hillary Clinton's scandals happened at her job, related to her job, in a political office. Trump's scandals happened on secret private recording over ten years ago and on a radio show in which the primary topic is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:15 PM
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If you've ever been in an environment with all males(if you've worked construction you probably have) the shit men will say about women would make Donald Trump sound like a feminist. I've been saying this the whole time. The thing I think is funny is that it's called "locker room talk" and then you get these people showing up like, "uhhh, what is he talking about? I'm in lockers all the time and I DON'T talk like that!!!" They don't get that "locker room talk" is just a saying. Most of my locker…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:10 PM
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Feelz before reelz as usual Donald Trumps Biggest Crimes: Wanting stricter watch on immigrants from countries with known terrorist organizations, stricter regulation on illegal immigration, and acknowledgement of the sexual marketplace. He also took legal advantage of existing tax laws enacted by none other than Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton's Biggest Crimes: Rigged primary election, collusion with media, conflict of interest with DOJ and Obama administration actively covering up scandal, massiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:53 PM
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seriously i dont know what these men think guys are like alone with their GFs, ive dated bikers and criminals etc. I've known quite a few guys with "douchebag" reputations that would literally act like an asshole to your face while their date would giggle and talk about how wonderful they are. They certainly would see.... something different in the douchebags than I could ever see, that's for sure. On the other hand, I've known a lot of really nice drug dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 01:10 AM
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Plate her, wrap your shit, and don't put too much effort in. Thats what I would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 01:05 AM
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Owning your shit: "I chose to believe that women were angelic creatures because it was a nice fantasy, or I thought it made me better than other men." Actually owning your shit: "Women are not angelic creatures. Therefore I will take appropriate steps to protect myself and my emotions" Not owning your shit: "We have to manipulate women to play the game, since they do the same thing to men." Owning your shit: "I manipulate women because it gets me the things I want." Both of these statements are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 01:01 AM
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Well, you're certainly going to have someone who hates your opinions no matter what you're writing. There's no winning them all. If nobody hates you, you aren't doing it right. On the other hand, I DO think that RP has a major PR problem and would be much more effective at winning over new converts if it was written for the masses. The language is complex and often hostile, leaving plenty of room for interpretation. Hell, I think a solid chunk of the BPers who come here and argue with us are fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 12:42 AM
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It's not the lanuage that gets me so much as these holier-than-thou, virtue-signaling, self-appointed moral authorities that insist on policing everyone's language - except their in crowd, of course - then it's okay to call men pigs, our cast white people as the name of all society. Maybe that's why they're so easy to anger. They ARE the thing they despise the most (a flawed human).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 12:36 AM
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Dunno but he's the only one I have trouble with. I get so bored, maybe it's too... Ranty? I dunno. The book was like a giant blog post that goes on way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 09:21 PM
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This is my biggest criticism. His writing style is incredibly dry. Even if i agree with him, it's very difficult to read. I didn't make it through the book for that reason because I just keep trailing off. Others have said it a lot more succinctly, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:41 PM
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Eh, if I could give any young men advice I would say not to settle down when you're young and your stock is low. Get your shit together, keep improving and the quality of woman you attract will only go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 12:13 AM
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I'm not trying to be rude, I'm saying that particular woman was very dishonest over the results of the study and the frequency of the side effects. She greatly trivialized them by equivocating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:47 PM
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Sucks doesn't it? Hmmm, kind of, sort of. You aren't enough of an asshole to be amusing to me and don't support your own points enough to give us an interesting conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:51 PM
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Sure they were. The study was halted by the researchers, not the men participating because it was posing a serious health risk. The rates of severe side effects in female birth control are much, much lower. If you ever read any of this shit you would know the results were very unacceptable and not a laughing matter. Politicizing it into a men vs women thing is a shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:45 PM
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They took a serious and sad step backwards in reproductive rights and somehow turned it into a "what about the womenz" sort of thing. It was a pretty condescending message that completely sidestepped the most important points. Edit: Also, the article was pretty dishonest about the severity of the side-effects in comparison to female birth control. They were several magnitudes more severe for this drug than known rates for female birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:35 PM
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Birth control affects men and women and better access to it will drastically reduce unwanted pregnancy AND the need for abortion. This should be a major issue for feminism but of course, its not. These people are truly warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:28 PM
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Fuck Men's Rights and Fuck everything it stands for. I'm starting my own charity for men, where I give them some cheese to go with their whine. Very interesting stance, here. A few people's lives were destroyed during that clinical trial and it's a major set back for men AND women. This says a lot about you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:59 PM
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There is a lot more nuance I some of the reading material which is never mentioned here. Best example is proper use of beta, which has very specific indications for use. A lot of TRP posters didnt get the memo because they either didnt read any books or dont care for LTRs, but even RPS endorses using beta to achieve a specific result.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:38 PM
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Hahaha seeing as you listed a number of my personal favorites, here are my thoughts on this. These are action heroes. They are male fantasies. The female equivalent is the RomCom with Ryan Gosling or whoever it is these days. People notice that women want the romcom, not the action movie hero. BUT in reality, acting like the action hero will give you more success than that sweet sensitive guy that built a house to show you his love for you. IRL, that RomCom guy would have a restraining order aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:24 PM
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You'll probably find a lot that's relatable. Ben stiller really steps out of his comfort zone to become something more. He ends up AMOGING hard at some point in an activity which requires a pretty dominant mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:07 PM
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I went to a prestigous university, run in highly intelligent circles, and have dated a number of very intelligent women: Doctors, lawyers, etc. Here are a few things I notice -It's more "career women" than intelligent women. Intelligence comes in a lot of shapes and sizes and academic achievement is a poor metric. Some of the highest achieving people I've known are also some of the most idiotic. -Higher standards and typically difficult to impress. Considering that to me they don't offer anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 10:31 PM
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I've been saying it for the longest time but it's all self fulfilling prophecy. Hes abusive because he must be RP because thats abuse because hes abusive! Or the close cousin of that: Hes RP so he must be abusive because RP is abusive because thats what it seems like. See? I just proved it! Try to argue THAT!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:06 PM
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It seems to be that people don't like these side effects of a deregulated sex market. The people who complain about men hooking up with women in the absence of emotional intimacy are actually anti-feminist, sex-negative slut-shamers. But this: They assume the women must have been played or tricked or something, because women are stupid like that. This is very common feminist logic. Remove her agency in the situation because somebody else acted upon her. Remember, a drunk woman can't consent to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:42 PM
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It seems pretty fake to me. The comments are what I find most interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:36 PM
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one obvious form of abuse could be that the girls might get attached to him and he might be leading them on and not be crystal clear about his intentions. Not being crystal clear about your intentions is an OBVIOUS FORM OF ABUSE? This is seriously deranged and dangerous thinking. Do you know that? Now it's starting to sound personal on your part. I have a serious feeling you couldn't lock down some alpha who seemed like things were moving to an LTR with you. It would make sense why you brag abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:35 PM
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Lol, im providing statements that the OP made as my evidence. You are providing spoonfed assumptions about his intentions. Theres a huge difference between restating a statement and trying to psychoanalyze a stranger based on another strangers opinion. When asked what his bad behavior was in the comments, her example was not offering commitment after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:59 PM
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100% agree. A lot of people dont really get it, hence why I use a throwaway here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:43 PM
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Because for all we know the interactions were consensual and enjoyable. The girl wouldn't have wanted to lock him down for an LTR otherwise. The OP just didn't like it because it sounded icky. And TIL "dehumanizing" is a term which strictly defines the female gender because feminism says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:42 PM
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I wouldn't read too much into the comments. I will say this about these comments. Offending people can have harsh consequences in that some people will try to destroy your whole life to defend their worldviews. In my line of work I have to be VERY careful with what I say. It could cost me my career if the wrong person gets offended. This is a pretty good demonstration of human reactionary hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:17 PM
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It just supports my topic. Masculinity is inherently toxic to these people. Guy is getting what he wants out of life? A woman might have had a potentially bad time with him or he used offensive language to describe her? Fuck! We better inform the FBI of this misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:13 PM
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Because male sexuality is very visual and does not require any kind of personal connection, it is very easy for a man who just treats women as sexual objects rather than as people to start abusing them. The language the Red Pill uses towards women is extremely dehumanising. So there is reason to believe he will mistreat them for real. Sounds like a thought-crime to me. The language he uses in private is offensive so he MUST be an abusive individual. A red pill guy answered to a recent post that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:11 PM
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beta white knights will take it to heart and swear to themselves not to be like that. HAhaha I know a LOT of guys like this. I'll never be THAT way. I'll always treat women with RESPECT!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:05 PM
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The only aspect I disagree with you on is the idea that TRP is synonymous with male sexuality. I gotcha. I am somewhat conflating the two, but I suppose this is what I was getting at with that title: Most of her objections were to the way he went about the casual sex he was getting. Like, she was so offended that he hurt a girls feelings by not offering commitment. There was very little specifics on what red pill asshole things he did besides negging and IDGAF attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:04 PM
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Men are overt. Women are covert. This is observed in a number of different aspects of how we go about our lives. In regards to romance, it is true that men overtly act to win affection. Yeah, I always knew that. How it relates to the op and what I didn't know when I was younger was that you will quite literally be acting it out for the remainder of your relationship. There is never a point where you will get together, be official, and she will pick up half of the slack. Its my job and if I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:41 PM
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By that definition, it is essentially meaningless. And yet, feminists LOVE to claim people who dont identify as one are feminist. How many times have you heard, "If you believe in equal gender rights, youre a feminist" Sure, there are plenty of brands of feminism, but the big ones in the western world are certainly not for equal rights, just their own specific version of it. Until the shaming and silencing, which tends to be their goto move, is replaced with logical debate on these topics, it'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:52 AM
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Why? The context was right in my post. I don't see why you can't argue either point with proper context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:35 AM
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men in general have the tendency to receive a slap on the wrist What? Men in general are punished much harsher in court than women. In fact, the discrepancy is much greater than that of black vs white men. Even more so if that White male has a class status (Brock Turner). For every brock turner, there are countless cases of females getting off for rape with slap on the wrist. There is a story like this about once a week on r/mensrights. Of course its never a national headline because nobody give…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:21 AM
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I'm speaking strictly on an absolute beauty scale, not a percentile scale. As if the difference between an 8 and 9 is the same as a 2 and 3. In that case, average is a 4 at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:46 AM
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I can't believe you're denying something that is found to be true on a pretty wide scale. Go to r/askwomen and ask what the least attractive trait in men is and you will get a wide range of answers. Ask the same question for men and it's the same thing every. single. time. I'm not talking about your personal preferences. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/3gs6sb/what_is_the_biggest_physical_turnoff_in_a_guy/?sort=top https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3guaug/what_is_the_biggest_phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:08 PM
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Its a bigger offense because thats what the masses have determined. Men are less forgiving than women when it comes to excess body weight. Its biological. Fat bodies mimic pregnancy and your lizard brain doesn't want to sleep with someone who is already pregnant. Around here, the average girl is about a 3.5 in my book. If we are using a binary scale, they would be a zero. They would be a zero if their face was pretty or not as I would never notice or care. A shit sunday is still shit if you put …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:00 PM
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I'm sure a part of this is you just seeing it through the eyes of a woman. I'm in the northern US. People here are fat. The women here are really fat. When I go out, I see some relatively normal looking guys and a whole bunch of very disgusting women. Because I'm more interested in women and more likely to notice their features, I have a much stronger negative reaction to the ugly ones. Through my eyes, I don't see chubby cute faces, I see a sea of ugly women who can't maintain themselves. Beaut…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:20 PM
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Yeah, its definitely not different here in the states. The millennials are for the most part the whiniest of manginas. We live in the age where kids are sheltered from any and all negative stimuli. That's the most popular method of parenting in the states these days. They aren't taught dominance and confidence because theyre raised in an environment where those things aren't needed, where you don't need to earn anything. Also, confidence is usually taught in the vaguest of contexts. There is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:29 PM
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Insecurity is a feeling. In your words, the less attractive partner makes her feel more secure, meaning insecurity was a factor in her decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:19 PM
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I'm not saying it's wrong our abnormal to be a little insecure. I understand it's not always easy. But consider this: I am short. I've been treated very poorly at times because of that, something out of my control. I've been told countless times that it is insecurity I have to overcome. Its a gendered problem that wouldnt exist if I was female. It's still insecurity though. Just one where confidence is the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:13 PM
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There is much more and it is mostly steeped in data analytics and the actual policies of feminist organizations. Feminism isn't immune to criticism, of which plenty exists. They never address and acknowledge, just deny and call the critics names. Shouldn't that set of alarms? It's essentially the same shit they accuse donald trump of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:39 PM
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Lol if you think im talking about telemarketers. Proves my point pretty well, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:34 PM
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I cant beleive this is real and yet I'm not surprised at all. How did I miss this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 12:30 PM
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Hahaha. Luckily I am in a career that rewards me handsomely for being honest and requires it to be the best. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:34 PM
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I saw a really interesting study recently and I forgot to link it here. If I ever find the source again, I will post it here. This study puts its closer to 90/10 and mathematically no, they do not get all the women. The findings said the top ten percentile of attractive men have access to an exponentially higher amount of women or receive an exponentially higher amount of the attention from women. It was something like that, I'll have to find it. I think the supply/demand curve was kind of the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:32 PM
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That was my post! I'm so glad you mentioned it because I was thinking the exact same thing when I read his reply! This was very written and you have an excellent grasp on what I was trying to get across. I also really liked your analogy to loving a good salesperson and your wife. I totally agree that i LOVE a good salesperson and if I don't buy something right away, I keep that motherfuckers number because some day I might need it. How this relates to MY girlfriend is also consistent with what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:22 PM
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Not to be mean and not saying there's anything wrong with it, but that IS kind of insecure. You wouldn't approach because of a potential negative reaction to your appearance. I used to think like this when I was in grade school. I used to think about what "league" i was in compared to the girl I liked. I was more aware of my "popularity" and where I stood so to speak. Nowadays if I want something, I pretty much just start thinking about how I'm going to get it, then act, including women. I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:15 PM
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Your understanding is pretty good and you're consistent in your beliefs. Your outlook on the morality of it all are pretty much identical to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:06 PM
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When you have zero game, a good place to start is a shotgun strategy one size fits all approach. Focus on the most common and easiest to learn stuff. As you improve, you are going to start recognizing the little details in different demographics groups. Only then will you learn how different groups respond to different things. Want to know the real reason everyone talks about alpha traits so much? They already learned beta and know it pretty well. Usually they're lacking in alpha and not the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:02 PM
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Because it's descriptive of their behavior and thinking, not a moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:41 PM
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You can thank feminism for that. On the other hand, no reason you can't always be improving yourself. Only got one life, man. Make it the best one you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:39 PM
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Very true, culture is slowly shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:45 PM
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A lot of women who grew up ashamed of sexuality have never explored their thoughts. They couldn't tell you what feels good for them to save their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:38 PM
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Quite simply, high partner count sloots are viscerally disgusting. Think about it, how many other men's penises have been inside her? I think this is your lizard-brain saying this. Most likely an evolved response. Here, we try to deconstruct why your brain has that response and talking about marriage value and mentalities behind it is part of that process.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:35 PM
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I think it has more to do with women being offended more easily. It is uncomfortable being around the easily offended person all the time because you aren't intentionally trying to offend them, but they are sticking around for the punishment anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:33 PM
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That's a good step, but how is that acknowledging biology? Social jobs are paid less because they're not required to make the world run. Whether you're mentally ill or not has nothing to do with if power is going to the city block. Artsy jobs aren't going to invent a new technology which is going to lower costs across the board and increase productivity. Shit like sports pay well because they make a lot of money in sales. Saying that patriarchy set up "womens" jobs to be paid less because they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:31 PM
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Feminists say that children should be given the opportunity to develop freely without being forced into gender roles. If a boy wants to play with dolls he should be able to do it just like a girl should be able to play with trucks. They should be encouraged to find out who they are and how to express this. Most kids do this already. They grab the toys they want and their parents just let them be kids. They claim that feminists want everyone to be the same although they only ask for everyone to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:11 PM
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Most of my complaints about feminism have to do with institutional feminism: the people writing the definitions, lobbying the government, publishing the studies, and distributing massive amounts of money. They're about as dishonest as the most BS politicians you can imagine. Most feminists are blissfully unaware of the criticisms of the people in charge of their own movement. Or maybe they don't care, which is even worse. This is why censorship of ideas is a massive problem from feminism. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:02 PM
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I came to say this. There are certainly a lot of parallels and this is the main differentiating factor. RP is mainly about changing your personal disposition to something that makes you happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:53 AM
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Seriously, most boobjobs are fairly inconspicuous and you wouldn't know based on the type of person and the way they dress. The bounce and how they sit depends on how much percentage of the boobs are fake, the individuals elasticity of their skin, and what material is in them. Some look and vehavw much more naturally than others and most women prefer to go for a more inconspicuous look . Lot of 200 pound women going from Bs to say Ds, which on a person with her frame is nothing. You also get a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:12 AM
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Sure, there is always a little. Some that I've dated have been more than others. But again, for the most part, all have been closest to the first picture on the far left: http://elitebreastimplantsboston.com/wp-content/uploads/breast-lift.png They have gotten better with doing the surgeries and what they put inside as well. Oh I know all too well. I know some of the best surgeons who do this and have worked on some of these cases. I'm probably one of the biggest advocates for good plastic surger…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:18 AM
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Feminism is now many things, viz. a desperate attempt to keep the thousands of people involved in gender studies and women studies programs on campuses relevant, keep the anti male laws on the books, criminalize male sexuality, keep the largesse for dubious ideas flowing, etc. One thing it isn't is a serious and honest movement not formed of ugly looking (and uglier inside) man-hating lesbians busy weaponizing female nature to co-opt relatively normal women with their natural hypergamist tendenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:20 AM
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There's been a handful of those as well but not the cases I'm referring to. If you think I might be mistaken, they're pretty easy to pick out. I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:07 AM
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Well I haven't had to so far. I have somehow gotten away with it. I've dated girls with 30-34 Ds, DDs, and one girl who I'm convinced was maybe a DDD or whatever you might call it. Those were a miracle of sorts on her tiny frame. Very little sag... all less than pic one from redpillsigmastigma
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 04:03 AM
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If you don't think its going to work out on a date, do you just get up and leave, even if you are enjoying yourself? I even thoroughly enjoyed the dates with horrible people. Hilarious stories for later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:09 PM
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I know a few people who got INSANE deals then. It was a great time to be a buyer. I wasn't in the place to do it either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:52 PM
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Me too, but not everyone feels the same. Unethical business techniques can be very, very successful. Depends on the individual employing the sales tactics. A better question is this: At what point does a sales technique become unethical? If the sales technique IS technically unethical but gives the customer a great deal/better result, was it unethical? Example: It is unethical in my business to comment on somebody else's work, but if their work is factually not up to my standards, does the custo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:40 PM
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i could do without the horrible cramps and regular invasive exams. Don't forget we get to have a finger up our butts annually after a certain age ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:35 PM
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Lol. I've tagged the convo and pretty much recited it as it happened. Not easy to forget inconsistently blind rage like yours. Never change buddy, you're a fun one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:29 PM
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So maybe you just subconsciously select for the latter and you're calling it luck? It's probably something along these lines. I couldn't tell you. They are either attractive to me or not. Its rather binary as far as an overall appraisal goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:32 PM
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It was just a guess. I have had unusually good luck in this department to the point that I can't explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:07 PM
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I dunno, maybe I just know what to look out for already Maybe. Or you aren't interested in what they're selling if its a shit product. The more you know exactly what you're looking for, the less a salesperson will be able to affect that interaction. If your business largely depends on the quality of the product, then they won't have much of an effect. It will make a MUCH bigger deal in a market where competition is stiff, products are similar, and there are many alternatives. Are you sitting on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:52 PM
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Where are you shopping that you're interacting with sales people all day? And the TV guy at best buy doesn't count. If that type of person is your idea of sales people, its like saying most waiters are bad because service at taco bell sucks. Does most wait staff suck or do you, you know, only notice the bad ones because they're everywhere you go. As a business owner, I interact with sales people constantly. Not all of them get my business, but they generally range on a spectrum and no, most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:03 PM
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A surprisingly high amount, actually. The thing is, I think a lot of people here are interestingly making the same mistakes they make when it comes to game: When TBP thinks of TRP, they think of an awkward nerd who couldn't speak in public to save his life. Likewise, when we think of sales people, the thought of a sleezy liar and immediate disgust come to mind. If you only notice a bad salesman, you will never recognize the things a good salesman is deliberately doing right. A lot of times it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:43 PM
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I mean, this really depends on the product and how exactly you're trying to sell it. To a certain extent yes, it depends on your marketing position. It depends a lot on the quality of your product compared to your price relative to your competition. If my price is better for the quality OR my quality is very good, it is in my best interest to educate them as to why in most scenarios. Certainly many salesmen like to use the peripheral route of persuasion, no? Yes, this is common. Appearances, sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:24 PM
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Sounds like you only notice the bad ones. If you took a closer look, you probably wouldn't even know what you'd be looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:11 PM
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I guess I'll be that guy. I'm a pretty big boob enthusiast and my dating history would tell you that. I like big boobs. I do not like saggy boobs. But perky small boobs are much more attractive to me than saggy big boobs. I actually have a pretty good track record of dating girls with big, perky boobs. I would guess that my tendency to date fit women has something to do with it. I've found that girls who look doughy in general tend to be saggier. From the examples given by u/rpsigmastigma, I fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:10 PM
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About the same as I imagine most of reddit: Fat and unrefined. Mid 20s. UMC with a bachelors degree. Most likely dating someone from an identical background or perpetually single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:38 AM
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I find it very hard to believe that you are a recognized doctor who owns their own business or a doctor with a low stress job There's not too many of us out there but yes, I don't find my job very stressful at all. My job is easy. I'm very good at it. Being my own boss is awesome. I control my hours and how much I work. My extensive business background has made it easy to operate. I don't mean to brag. I hope I don't sound that way but I'm proud of what I've accomplished. I'm also flattered that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:36 AM
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"Sales techniques" don't work on everyone. They just don't. No they don't. They only work on the vast majority of humanity. the more discerning they'll be and the less likely they'll fall for sales blurb. You really don't know anything of what you're talking about. Do you know what the best sales technique I have is in my line of work? Effective education. The more knowledgeable my buyers are, the more likely I am to make a sale. No salesperson can sell me a house. lol No one can "sell" me a car…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:24 AM
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most successful people pair up along the years through trial and error. Very true. I certainly didn't have anyone to teach me. Had to fuck up a lot to get where I am. I've made almost every mistake there is to make and you know what? I'm proud to say it. Agreeing with some concepts doesn't mean having to study the mechanics behind dating to have success. For sure. Most people never care to get into such depth. I study the mechanics behind it because I find human psychology interesting. It's also…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:24 AM
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Hahaha I wish I could read it. As someone who naturally gravitates towards these kinds of things, I think it would be an interesting look into your world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:11 AM
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Quite a few, actually. But IRL, most people agree on some level with a number of RP concepts. You can wave them around in broad daylight people will agree as long as you don't use the colorful language that gets thrown around here. The types who tend to disagree tend to be... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:09 AM
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Of course you need to put your best foot forward, but there's a difference between putting your best foot forward (dressing well, good hygiene, charm and personality, humor) and pretending to be someone else, kissing ass or being fake. If you kiss ass and frequently lie, you won't be a good sales person. You have to have a decent product and be able to communicate why that person needs that product. In personal relations, your best isn't going to shine through unless you know how to sell yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:05 AM
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Blue Pill pushes back when we see sexism and misogyny. That's it. BS, dude. The last conversation I had with you was so dumbfoundingly ridiculous that I didn't know what to say. Let me summarize for you. I'll ELI5. Me: I have 5 red jellybeans You: No you don't, nazi! Me: (Holds up 5 red jellybeans in right hand) Sure do! You: Are you blind? You clearly have 7 blue jellybeans (points to blue jellybeans in left hand). I don't know why you're on these boards or what axe you have to grind, but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:03 AM
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you shouldn't try to do the analogy of this. I Lold You've got to understand that we've naturally got social skills and an inate understanding of game and sales because we grew up around other people and not completely excluded from society. As others have already pointed out, the vast majority of people are not good at sales and have a very limited understanding of them. The existence of this forum is proof enough of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:57 AM
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It only feels grubby if you don't like the salesman. If you like him, you'd be driving away in a fancy new ride AND most importantly for you, you'd love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:52 AM
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I've definitely met good sales people who will outright tell the customer that the product doesn't fit their needs because it truly didn't. I do this all the time. A good salesman playing the long game would know this. But you've actually scratched the surface of something major that is a big missing piece of the puzzle that TRP NEVER discusses. Its a major concept that is completely missing from their outlook. but its a huge topic and I will probably be writing on it separately in the near futu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:51 AM
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So I really disagree with TRP when they say game is all that matters. If you read my post you would know I didn't say this, nor did anyone. Also, nobody outside of TRP even talks about SMV. Looks are stressed much more there than anywhere I've known. Why is the first piece of advice in RP always to get in better shape if they only care about game?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:45 AM
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I am a doctor and these concepts translate especially well to my job. In fact, sales translates very well to game. RP translates much more to my job than sales does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:40 AM
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Right? It's literally the exact same shit. The way you direct conversations and lead the interaction. If you know how to do both, the parallels are super obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:37 AM
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Who knows, maybe all these people on the internet who did nothing but study game now know that they can give a lucrative career in sales a go because of you! They translate over well. Having good people skills helps you sell shit, but you need a specific direction. Being able to BS anybody makes you better able to BS women. We get a bit too obsessed with little details around here but a good place to start for someone is just to learn to have conversations with complete strangers. I would love t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:36 AM
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I don't buy the "They learned it naturally" excuse that is thrown around here. Most of the bloopiest people I know IRL are kind of slobs who married other slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:30 AM
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But it isn't much of an analogy and more of a direct translation. You literally use many of the exact same principles and techniques in sales that you do to game a woman. It shouldn't be hard to follow unless you don't understand how/why sales work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:28 AM
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I agree 100%. I could have really extrapolated more on it but if I make it too long nobody will read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:15 AM
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RP dynamics are very applicable to my job as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:14 AM
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That's a very male-minded thing to say. Women generally risk a lot more when they have sex, all of evo-psych theories underlying TRP recognize that! It is a pro-casual sex out look. But this sounds like an admission on your part that a high n-count actually is a problem. I'm confused as to why you are bringing up dating a bad partner. Your post was about how men vet women. If it is fair to judge women based on past sexual experiences, then men should be on past relationship experiences. Lets go …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:29 PM
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I am very happy to be a man. It is awesome. I've worked hard and achieved everything I've set out to do. I've done things that a lot of people never will. I also love women. I love everything about them. I don't think I would appreciate femininity nearly as much as I do if I were a woman. Men occupy the top and at a certain point, I realized that biology is a part of that. We are wired for competition, both sexual and nonsexual. It is nice to be there. But men also occupy the bottom. There are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:26 PM
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I get it. If you completely suck at everything you will continue to suck and may always suck. What is the point of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:55 PM
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So where do you suggest they learn about sex from, a textbook? There really isn't a good alternative aside from actually having sex. Sure, too much porn can damage people. But just the right amount can open you to some new and interesting possibilities, kinks you didn't knew you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:53 PM
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Something strange tells me that porn didn't invented the facial. http://theberry.com/2016/05/31/ever-wonder-who-gave-the-first-blow-job/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 04:49 PM
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Are you asking a question or being sarcastic. Yes, women largely avoid the most miserable jobs by choice, but that is only one aspect. They are literally much less productive in manual labor jobs on average. The economy would take a massive hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:35 AM
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a man’s investment/commitment past can be judged the same way. I see what you're getting at and I can give a more complete response later, but here is why they're not equivalent: If a guy fucks you and doesn't call you back, the worst that will typically happen is a bruised ego. On the other hand if you make a decision to date a bad partner, it can mean any number of much more costly and fucked up things including massive financial drains, psychological distress, and a large amount of wasted tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 11:10 PM
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I have high standards. Higher than ever. If a girl doesn't meet those standards, she can either improve herself or get the fuck to the back of the line. By increasing the size of the line, I only increase the chances of finding one I really like. Just because I send more to the back, doesn't mean I am self selecting for them. It means I have the luxury to do so because the line is big.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 05:10 PM
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You underestimate the sheer number of total hoes that are out there. For all intents and purposes, its practically unlimited and yet, it will only ever be the smallest fraction of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:24 PM
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My SO is the best about this. Typically only brings up her problems of she wants a solution. If she wants to bitch, she just tells her friends and they are more than happy to indulge her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 11:57 AM
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World productivity would take a massive, massive hit. Ever wonder why there aren't too many women working on oil rigs, fisherman ships, coal favorites lfactories, etc? It's because they have to lift heavy shit all day. A lot of jobs that require lifting an awkward heavy object with one man would take 3 women. I suppose everyone would be employed on the bright side, but your lobster tail would be $200 instead of $50 and there would be a whole lot of misery to spread around in those shitty working…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 11:48 AM
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Are you incapable of staying on topic? I wasn't talking about men. If you have a comment, try to address the original point. Ill state it again, more clearly in case youre confused. Women are unhappier now than they were 40 years ago despite everything they have gained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:19 PM
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Lol, is that the best you can do? Here, I will even give you the source so you can try and make a real point. Have fun! http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:57 AM
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That's why I suggest that people pick a partner who does think that way, and also to know that they themselves can do that if they want to get married. It is impossible to know what's going on in someone else's head whereas there's a 100% chance I will be taken care of if I do it myself. Living together is a great way to vet potential partners, and even to vet oneself. It's actually not. Research shows that living together will make you more likely to get married to someone you're NOT compatible…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 11:12 PM
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There seems to be some weird meme trope that women treat betas and omegas like sub human scum in their rejections. They just perceive it to be the most cruel thing in the world and with a malefic intent to destroy some poor man. Hyperbole in the sense that not every rejection is going to be this super cruel behavior. But it is common enough to happen on a regular basis where it is affecting peoples psyche. In college I had plenty of women be pretty horrible to me for no reason. It's simply unnec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:59 PM
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Statistically, women have more than they ever had and are the most unhappy they've ever been. Turns out the working world is hard and pretty shitty. They've had legal equality to men for a while now, including a number of rights that men don't have. They have much better access to social services. Massively disproportionate funding towards their health services and research despite living longer and healthier lives than men. The education gap is very large and widening and yet the message is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:49 PM
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If you're in a marriage or a LTR, I think that looking out for both yourself and your SO is of equal importance. I used to think this. The problem is if you think that and your partner doesn't, you're fucked for life. If you think like myself and so does your partner, both of you are responsible for yourselves and neither worries about whether or not the other is taken care of. IMO, it works out a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:35 PM
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Why are you inclined to believe the second. Because it would require the existence of two things. First of all, it would require our understanding of quantum physics to be accurate in the sense that probability affects how subatomic particles behave. We cannot prove that this will happen differently in the exact same scenario because it is impossible for us to reproduce the exact same scenario twice. There are no do-overs. Also it would require the existence of time travel into the past or the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:47 PM
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I just think that there are some good ones out there and you gotta look harder. It's up to the individual. I'm not here to convince strangers on the internet to get married or not. Anyway, we're getting very far away from my original point which was that looking out for yourself is much more important than looking out for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:03 PM
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This means that the laws of nature and past facts do not force us to choose certain actions over others. Why does it have to mean that? You are literally defining a conundrum that only exists within your definition of what free will is. A better question would be, "Are there multiple outcomes in the universe based on our ability to lean one way or another or does existence follow one and only one path based on physics" I am inclined to think the second thing is true, but it doesn't mean that I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:55 PM
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You're talking about personality traits while this discussion was more talking about specific behaviors. Sure, personality traits such as extroversion are inherited. But behaviors are much more specific and learned. I was one extroverted, confident, child growing up. But I was taught to fall in line and listen to instructions. That little kid who is flirting with his teacher and giving her shit is emulating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:51 PM
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Sure, those are common too and I hear about that every once in a while. But cases where the guy is complaining that she isn't doing her fair share? It's almost always true. That said I don't think that becoming cynical is a way to go. It is not a requirement to develop a negative worldview by acknowledging human beings are typically motivated by self-interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:47 PM
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Define free will. Most people's definition of that will vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 02:00 PM
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Sure, but multiple studies suggest that this is magnitudes less important for men than for women as the correlation for women and n-count is much stronger and the risks for men in a marriage are much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 12:04 PM
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I know some husbands and wives that count everything. "Wife used $5 dollars today, so she owes me 5 dollars." I agree that keeping score is a bad way to promote your relationships. In fact, this is the generally stance of MRP. Outcome independence (brushing off negative behavior) and avoiding covert contracts (not being butthurt when you didn't get something nice in return for something you did) is an essential part of MRP. when I read RPers post they always say "this is what I'm giving to a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:02 PM
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Those kids are emulating adults in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:52 PM
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Sometimes being selfish WHILE leading by example is very giving. I always justified why I never give to the homeless. By improving my personal situation, it frees me up to do thousands of dollars in charity work in my field which is in endless demand. By taking when I can, it has put me in a situation where I can do much, MUCH more good than most. When it comes to relationships, it is pretty easy to avoid stomping all over somebodies soul. Being up front with people goes a long way. Most people …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:16 AM
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I get it. I mean, I'm very happy and have a LOT that most people don't have. At the same time I'm not going to pretend I've reached the pinnacle of human happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:46 PM
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