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1	How do the guys you have STR/ONS differ from the guys you LTR? My one night stands were guys far out of my league in attractiveness, because I could, and wasn't concerned with the insecurities that come with relationships (am I good enough for him? Is he gonna cheat? Can I trust him not to steal the money out of my purse and go play poker?) My LTR's were guys I felt were similarly attractive or lower, and who I had a mental and emotional attraction to, and an ability to trust. ONS's are meaningless fun so the only consideration was attractiveness. I never…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/19 05:08 PM
-1	Woman punches man at a Trump rally but didn't think he would defend himself. Just do what my ex husband always did. Throw a fit, break something that shatters, "restrain" the chick for sparring par for par verbally when she hurts your feelings, place bruises strictly on arms and wrists while holding her down and screaming in her face, then after the cops are called by the neighbors, quietly go cut yourself in the corner with some of the broken shards. Worked like a charm for him.	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/11/16 11:40 PM
8	Drugged out lady tries to steal his cigarettes and car radio. Exactly, I was so torn between "Is this bitch serious?" and "Ahhh.....no...the guy is a complete tool, listen to him." It was hard to root for him when he was throwing around mountains of douchey terms.	/r/PussyPassDenied	17/10/16 10:43 PM
1	Bluepillers and Redpillers: What is your favourite thing about women Bodies. Men can't compete in the way of physical beauty, standing side by side. I can be dazzled by the female form, but I can never NOT giggle when I see a dude's floppy junk waggling around like a little red hotdog with a wrinkly, saggy sack.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/15 11:27 PM
2	something better than sex? Xanax.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/15 04:05 PM
1	Who should pay for dates? Whoever invited to the date, usually. I thought that was how it went. Friendly coffee? Pay for your share. Other person dead broke? Spot it because you're a lovely person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/15 05:24 AM
1	Google and the pussy pedestal I actually was not seriously curious as to why some women might join ISIS. You see men and women joining cults all the time. A lot of people like to belong to something they view as greater than themselves or a greater good, even if it's...not so good. The red pill answers you gave are just bloated over-explaining of simple, uncomplicated human tendencies. Much like the rest of RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/15 04:25 PM
1	Google and the pussy pedestal That did tickle me. Why ARE women joining ISIS? Women, amiright?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 07:33 PM
1	Google and the pussy pedestal I thought so. Especially the very contradictory last two. People can't decide which stereotype to go with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 07:23 PM
1	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Could you clarify? I feel like there's a grammar issue here. No grammar issue. I was saying that the special pleading you speak of comes from the stereotypical Tumblr feminists, or extremists. And that it shouldn't deter you from feminism in general, in the same way you're trying to convince me that TRP isn't all that bad and my more extreme examples of it being bad is due to some extremists. This is you policing the language and content of a sub for men; you're trying to say what can and cannot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 06:46 PM
1	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? because it reeks of special pleading, which is antithetical to eliminating benevolent sexism. Yet you confront me about basing your beliefs off of what you consider to be extremists. Funny how that works. Not really, but my point is that women can get together and bullshit without having language or content policed by men. Your point falls flat unless they're doing the same shit that TRP is doing. A "safe place" is a "safe place", and an arena to spout misogynistic biotroof idiocy is quite anoth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 05:50 PM
0	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? I mean the idea that men should earn a woman's love/trust/respect, while considering her to be automatically deserving of his. But she's not, is she? You haven't dated around as a woman, but I can assure you there are things women have to do to get and maintain a relationship. Women get dumped for numerous reasons just as often as men get dumped. It's true, but the fallacy that all women are good and kind and ... has been so ingrained in us that we needed to be told over and over about women spe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 04:58 PM
1	Google and the pussy pedestal For women, it said : "So insecure", "joining ISIS", "so emotional", and "always cold"	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 04:39 PM
1	Google and the pussy pedestal Try "Why are men" and then "Why are women" That one was fun.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 03:13 AM
-1	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Your experiences may differ from mine, but the facts show that attractive people are more successful in many areas of their lives. Even in the workplace. This can and does manifest into some negative character traits. If people are falling all over themselves to date you because you're extremely blessed genetically, chances are you're going to be highly selective and have a bit of an ego problem. Less attractive people may have a chip on their shoulder, I won't argue that. But they're less likel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 12:31 AM
1	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? It's less of seeing women as "the enemy" and more acknowledging that a woman isn't a prize. I wish that were the case, but rather than de-pedestalizing, TRP feels the need to go above and beyond and straight up TAKE THEM BITCHES DOWN A NOTCH. It's the equivalent of telling your buddy that he's better off without the chick that politely turned him down because she was probably a total bitch anyway and she wasn't even that hot. Oy. We shouldn't have to earn, and then work to keep, a woman in our l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 12:24 AM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory No. They are bitter. Unrealistic expectations cross all levels of maturity. They really don't. It's immature. Uh, you totally quoted me out of context there. Men and women are not the same. Let's try to keep this honest. And you still have explained the connection--pointing at something (wrong in this case) is not explaining it. Hahaha, Jesus. I wasn't saying that's what you genuinely though, I was pointing out that you eventually came to summarize the point I was making. Oh, man. It's like argu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/15 12:05 AM
0	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Fair point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 10:19 PM
-3	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? TRP does branch off into things like MGTOW and MarriedRedPill, but they aren't the heart of what TRP is about. The heart of TRP is "recognizing women as they really are" which is basically a fancy way of saying "Recognizing women as the enemy, but they are stupid and easily manipulated, so here's how to do that so you can get laid a lot. Also, improve yourself because that somewhat legitimizes our shitty ideals because this is what will truly help you with women, so stop being a slob and a doorm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 09:56 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Uh. That most certainly does apply to a lot of them. They whine as much as the tumbler (I swear to god, if that idiot corrects me again...) dipshits. If so, they are childish. That makes zero sense. Explain the connection. I already did here : "Women are not all bumbling children. Men are not all paragons of maturity and responsibility." Which you acknowledge here : And see, this is where most of this rant is centering. Men are the same as women and whatever. See how that works? Aye. Welcome to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 09:48 PM
-4	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Also, this has nothing to do with how likely it is that ugly people are only kind to make up for their ugliness. It had to do with the premise that a certain privilege (being very attractive / being a woman) causes people to take things for granted, and having an easier life breeds these contemptible behaviors. As far as ugly people only being kind to make up for their ugliness, it can be argued that perhaps they are kinder due to the fact that their personality was forged in greater difficultie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 08:56 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory swoon	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 08:08 PM
0	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Social proof. A hot chick with no friends, versus one who is popular and socially inaccessible. It works for women the same way it does for men. And those women are likely to have better social skills, be more socially and intellectually stimulating, and have way more to offer than one who is just hot. And yeah, those things matter. Are you telling me a hot chick with a bunch of friends is going to be more socially and intellectually stimulating to you? How beta. Look at that chick over there. S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 08:05 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory I can feel you WANT to make some kind of point...come on, you can do it Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 07:51 PM
1	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? It was an assumption based off of how he decided to rate the women that he now can pull : " I’ve having the sexual success I’ve always wanted with women whom I would’ve said two years ago are eons out of my league" Tell me, in what ways might these women have been out of his league? Better job than him? Psh, TRPers always quack on about how the only value a woman has is her looks. Or were they out of his league because he had the opportunity to observe their cooking, cleaning, and mothering habi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 07:29 PM
-3	Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes hate the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does? Pretty much what I came here to say. He says that she's not even a TRP stereotype of a girl, yet she shows disgust when he has emotional upsets that may lead to spouting a few tears. She is exactly the kind of girl that TRP stereotypes all women into. And I hate to say it, but the implication that she was :out of his league" tells me that she is incredibly attractive...and in my experience, incredibly attractive people generally develop some crappy traits like vanity and self-centeredness. What …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 07:15 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory So how do you know it doesn't apply to them if you don't know what they are? You just pointed out some points I made that doesn't apply to MGTOWs. Like whining about their life or expecting love and business success to fall into their laps. So I would assume my descriptions of the kind of guys I'm talking about isn't in regard to your beloved MGTOW ideals. Therefor, no reason to get your hackles up. Because certainly no women ever leach off their betaboi. It's only lazy men. And you just made my…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 05:12 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory First off : Whoooooo... a personal attack! I'm special. How adult of you. That wasn't a personal attack. My quote in full : And some men never grow past that mentality and never stop expecting to be cleaned up after, to be loved even when they behave completely unlovable, or to be able to waste countless hours that could have been better spent achieving some form of decent life on imaginary characters in video games, constantly pushing that button to stimulate the reward center of their brain in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 04:36 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory ...what the fuck are you babbling about, now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 05:44 AM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory So, their job is to produce stuff for you? You are now some sort of slave owner? We're not talking about me, or other females, or even other males and what they may or may not get from this hypothetical slob or even whether or not they should contribute to society or why they should. We're talking about behavior we attribute to children. A large one being devoid of responsibilities, interests in purely selfish things that do not improve their own health or mind (like endless hours put into a gam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 09:58 PM
2	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory They are doing childish things with their time. They are doing nothing productive. Attraction isn't even a part of the discussion, so don't try to use it to make some off the wall point, it's transparent. Spending the majority of your time wanting to play video games, doing nothing with your life, and not even having the self respect to clean up after yourself and resigning yourself to living in your own filth in misery is...childish. And since I've seen this behavior quite often in men, I guess…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 06:23 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Care to explain how being unkempt and lazy is the fault of feminism? I'm still waiting. I can see you really scrabbling hard to make some kind of point...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 05:35 PM
3	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory I can't wait to hear how feminism is responsible for instances of laziness in males.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 04:22 PM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Because TRPers got cheated on and now all women are dirty ol' sloots. They're just rampaging around saying all the things they wish they'd said to their ex but applying it to all women because it feels good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 03:33 PM
2	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory And you don't know what it's like trying to explain to a man that breaking valuable household items might make him feel a bit better for all of two seconds but will end up costing the household money to replace them. Or have had to explain to a man that a tiny shift of his wrist could mean that his underwear lands in the laundry basket instead of...directly beside it. Oh, but he's used to mommy taking care of that for him. Or had to explain to a man that he can wait until the newest console come…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 07:17 AM
1	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Implying women need to be held accountable for the grave sin of being promiscuous. "Slut" wouldn't phase me. "Doodie head", on the other hand...I don't think I'd ever recover.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 07:10 AM
0	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Careful now, this won't jive well with the hive mind. You'll be just another example of how TRP is going to the betas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/15 07:07 AM
18	"The most responsible teenager in the house" theory Jesus, tell that to all the men I know with their Peter Pan complexes, wanting to spend their days playing video games and live in their own filth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/15 06:25 PM
1	When is someone using drugs/alcohol incapable of giving consent to sex? Well, I was pretty much going to say "Unable to form a coherent sentence or string of thought. And everything thereafter in fucked uppedness." But yeah, you covered it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 04:47 PM
2	24 year old Indian male, are women seeing me as a "beta-bucks" Do what works for you, mang. I'm not judging.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 03:30 PM
3	24 year old Indian male, are women seeing me as a "beta-bucks" Men are always going to be attracted to young, fertile women. Cougars, naughty teacher complex, milf porn, etc. etc. etc. Women are always going to be attracted to confident, fit men. Chubby chasers, the amount of actors/comedians seen as sexy who are hideous, ...me with every guy I've ever dated. Tastes change and tastes vary. I know you guys condense this shit for convenience purposes to cover the majority of the population, but I don't think it's anywhere near the majority and instead rules f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 03:29 PM
2	24 year old Indian male, are women seeing me as a "beta-bucks" I ain't sayin' gold diggers don't exist. He needs his guard up for sure. But there's a difference between being suspicious of every woman that shows interest in him and being aware that there are women that want him to support them. There are women (and men) who will lean on their SO's for support and refuse to get a job even when that person barely makes ends meet. There are moochers who will only be your friend to bum cigarettes or rides from you. He should keep an eye out, but not let it spoi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 03:21 PM
8	24 year old Indian male, are women seeing me as a "beta-bucks" Women will like different things at different times. Tastes do change. When I was in high school, all I wanted was a long lanky boy who looked messed up on drugs with long dreadlocks and effeminate mannerisms. Now I want a goofy, smart nerdy guy with big round glasses and a part in his hair. Tastes change. I doubt any of the girls are still holding crushes on the boys they had pasted to their bedroom walls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 02:27 AM
1	24 year old Indian male, are women seeing me as a "beta-bucks" Dude, I don't know about it strictly as an analogy, but...my taste for veggies grew as I did. I fucking love the shit out of some broccoli now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/15 02:24 AM
2	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? holy fuck you reply fast. r u mashing f5? i edit my comment in more time than you jump on it. I just spend hours browsing Reddit, like any normal complete loser with nothing else to do would. Don't judge me. Anyway, to your (very rude tsk tsk) babble: Dude, how is it rude when I say it but not when TRP points it out? I'm just following TRP's logic, and by TRP's logic, you're a born and raised beta and to get anywhere near alpha you have to WORK at it. And women don't want the guys that have to w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 09:31 PM
2	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? Well, you're coming from the stance of a beta using tactics pretending to be alpha. If you had to get interested in pickup, chances are you were a loser that couldn't figure out how to get laid. So yeah, you might be one to dig a little deeper for that pearl underneath. You might be grateful for a giggle or some subtle encouragement from that shy cutie in the corner. You're probably into anime, so that coy little girl thing probably really revs your engine. I'm not talking about guys like you. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 08:04 PM
3	Where do you think the stereotype that women all hate each other comes from? I really have no idea. But if you've seen men grouped together fucking with another dude they don't like, it's fucking brutal. Just about a month ago I was in a nightclub where tear gas needed to be dropped due to a couple of dudes that got into a fight that escalated to broken glass and blood everywhere. Humans. A territorial bunch sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 06:34 PM
1	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? Say whatever you want. Logically, you can say it's a better investment to go with the wall flower in the same way women say settling down with a nice guy is a better investment. It is. It's a better idea all around. But who usually ends up in the sack? If you want to go further and say the more masculine confident woman may get laid easier but has less of a chance of getting into a relationship, I'm still gonna call bunk. Men like to be excited. Logically, your brain is gonna tell you that the g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 06:14 PM
0	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? You've made a veritable fuckton of assumptions about me in our back and forth discussions. What kind of person have you painted me as? Just out of curiosity... Yes, the shy girl might have more to offer than the chick in your lap. But you're going to forego that shy girl in the corner to fuck that girl in your lap and then possibly never see that shy girl in the corner again. Dick wins out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 04:52 PM
0	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? Well, we're speaking of confidence, aren't we? And what better way to show confidence than giving displays that you are equal to or better than the person you're interacting with? Or at the very least, in control of the interaction? People who believe TRP to the letter will fight tooth and nail against the idea that a confident and assertive woman comes across as attractive because TRP has built it's entire belief system around the idea of - Man = dominant, woman = submissive. But like I said. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 03:10 PM
1	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? No, but you guys claim being forward like that IS confidence. We've got kino and we've got a display of higher value (telling her/him to do something instead of asking). EDIT: To clarify, you'd possibly believe that placing your hand on a woman's lower back to be more confident and sexy as opposed to, say, touching her forearm or not touching her at all. And the amount of times I've had pickup artisty guys come and open with "So, I'll have a (insert manly drink on the rocks), and my name is (CHA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 02:38 PM
-1	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? Dumb. Are we talking about highly romanticized tales of how I met your mother or knee jerk attraction? Kind of hard to go out of your way to zero in on the pretty quiet girl who's timid when you have an equally beautiful girl sitting on your lap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 02:36 PM
-1	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? You say that, but if she's hot enough she could grab your dick and tell you to buy her a drink and you will. You will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 05:26 AM
0	Why would a woman say she want's a nice, sweet gentlemen to go out with, when she in fact ends up with an asshole? Confidence. Not really much more to it than that. An asshole is bold. When people think of "nice guys" they think reserved, maybe even timid. Hesitant. Confidence is sexy. It's sexy in men and it's sexy in women. That wallflower that speaks barely above a whisper and smiles sheepishly at a guy isn't going attract him faster than the woman that engages him in conversation and excites him. E'erbody loves confidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/15 04:18 AM
0	TRP Men and Honor He also said she's started drinking while pregnant. This whole scenario is a big fucking shit show.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 03:32 PM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. I bet you're not as ugly as you think you are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 01:28 PM
3	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Women are just used to wearing the shit. It's a comfort thing to go out in public with it on. You feel naked without it. You wouldn't want to go out in public naked, even though you have no problem showing your SO your naked body in intimate moments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 01:25 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. You can also do teeth whitening, skin care regimen, dress sharp, improve your posture, get good haircuts and have it styled...I mean, isn't TRP all about increasing your SMP? They even suggest you manufacture traits you don't naturally have and fake a personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 01:23 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. HINT: HE heard "Looks don't matter....something something something personality something something inside that matters." The rest of us have reading comprehension and took it to mean if you're not taking into consideration more than aesthetic qualities in your mate, you're doing it wrong. And aesthetics can be forgiven somewhat in exchange for an above average personality. Looks matter. But it ain't shit without the accessories.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 01:09 PM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Hahaha, no. Her character in House M.D. had Huntington's. I was trying to be funny...that's how that usually ends up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 12:56 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. In that photo though, Olivia Wilde really does look like she hasn't slept in a week. It's probably the Huntington's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 02:44 AM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Well, no. Not necessarily. I mean, take a look at this, She's in natural light. That is pretty flattering light. And the photo has a fair amount of saturation. Possible a bit too much, considering just how rosy her under eye crease shadows are. http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014816/rs_1024x759-140916145217-1024-olivia-wilde-no-makeup.ls.91614_copy.jpg Gorgeous girl, no question about it. But all I want to ask when looking at the makeupless photo is "Damn, does she have the flu? D…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 12:51 AM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. It's true...You should get some Pond's cold cream! I tell everyone about this stuff haha. It's so wonderful though. This and the Burts Bees undereye circle clearer. I don't use any sort of foundation. My main concern area is, unfortunately, a genetic one. I've got the perma-bags under the eyes where some highlighting works wonders. I do that and some blush and eyeliner. Boom bam, done. But man, if I don't do those I look like a baby bird or some shit. Just not pleasant. The Victoria's Secret mod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 12:36 AM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Lol, ok. "billboards oppress everyone". Nah, not really. But the trends are set by someone. Quit talking about oppression so damn much. Nobody is mentioning oppression. You don't "have" to have a Rolex to not be a slob, but you do however, have to wear makeup. No shit. I was speaking about advertising setting societal standards that some adhere to and judge others on. No, not wearing a Rolex doesn't make you a "slob". It makes you "poor". It's a status symbol. But lady, unless you're doing it fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 12:30 AM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Well, when you consider how many people look what most would consider sickly without makeup, then yeah. Dark circles, bags, mottled complexion, without eyeliner or mascara the eyes can look squintier. You might be able to get away with it. Kudos to you. EDIT: We've been conditioned to see a woman without makeup and think that they look "off". For example, google the term "with and without makeup". When you see celebrities without makeup they look absolutely hag-like in contrast to how you're use…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/15 12:14 AM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Lmfao I stopped reading your drivel when you said you stopped reading my drivel. No effort for you until you can learn to debate, sugar buns. Hop to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 10:04 PM
0	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Oh, Jesus. Here it goes with the biotroofs. Makeup plays off of our ideals of beauty, which is different culturally. In Ethiopia, scarring is considered and a stretched lip is attractive. In the 1800's in Japan, Geisha played up smaller lips as that was what was considered attractive. In the west, we also have a standard for beauty and makeup helps to play it up. But makeup has also become a giant industry. It's become woven into the fabric of women's everyday lives as a necessity, whether they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 09:44 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Or, you know, get all the attention in a negative way. My whole premise is that makeup is to BLEND IN, not STAND OUT. You're a bigger oddball if you're not wearing makeup. The majority of women wear it. I've already pointed out that people will assume you're unkempt, don't care about yourself, or slovenly. I don't know if you're willfully stupid or trolling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 07:22 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Why aren't women doing everything in their power to look older ? More mature ? More knowledgeable and careworn ? They do in areas not strictly confined to the aesthetic deterioration of the human body during aging. They may put their hair up in buns or wear more mature clothing. TRP says older men just get better looking as they age, but I don't see younger men painting on liver spots or stretching their balls so they sag more. Because guys want to fuck young chicks. Youth is and has often been …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 06:11 PM
3	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Dude, as your skin ages it droops and all kinds of not so attractive things happen to it. This isn't a goddamn conspiracy. Most people just don't want to go out in public looking like shit. That's it. I find it wildly hilarious how you backflip to make the obvious seem like some kind of closely held secret. Your body deteriorates as you age. WHAT A RADICAL CONCEPT! Edit: Is the reason you don't go out to a nice restaurant in baggy, spaghetti stained sweatpants and a ripped greasy shirt because y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 05:04 PM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Doesn't stop it from being the trend. Obviously painted is what's in right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:53 PM
4	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Uh, no. The fucking opposite. Married, to me, implies older. The older the woman the more likely it is she's going to put makeup on before leaving her house due to the more flaws she will have as she ages. Married or no, women will wear fucking makeup to leave the house. You're full of shit. Edit: I think I see where the disconnect is for you, sir. You apparently see younger single women wearing tons of obvious makeup. Then you see older, more mature married women going out and to you they APPEA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:49 PM
0	CMV: Slut shaming is done by males who have not had sexual access to promiscuous females in their youth. Not so. Have heard groups of guys discussing their previous "sluts" they've had sex with and mocking them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:30 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. So...you're telling me...that those aren't just flesh colored bumps on your face but actual ZITS?! Next you'll tell me your eyelashes aren't naturally two inches long and hard as wire. I...I just can't believe you could deceive me this way...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:26 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. This. It's no fucking subtle. Any idiot can tell. Subtle makeup isn't exactly in anymore. It used to be "The trick is to make it look like you're not wearing any." Yeah, not so much anymore. "The trick is to make it look like you've bought every single product from Sephora and used it all at once."	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:19 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. I don't see many married women going out in public without makeup, so I've no idea what you're on about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:13 PM
2	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. When the fuck did I say this was the fault of men? The makeup industry is perpetuated by women. It's competition driven quite obviously. I never said otherwise. I'm not claiming to be "oppressed" by the fact that to not look like a slob I have to wear makeup, so you can pull the panties out of your twat. It is the same with all advertising. If you're not driving this car, you're a poor schlub. If you're not wearing this incredibly overpriced watch, you're a shit heap. Etc. Etc. I do disagree wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 04:10 PM
1	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. Yeah, we're scared to show our hidjus faces out in public without some kind of makeup. We're expected to wear that shit. The pressure started in middle school. We didn't put that shit on for the boys, we put it on so we could fit in with the girls. From there it just became a necessity. In high school, if you weren't wearing makeup, you were probably a stoner, a Jehovah's Witness, or very sheltered in some way. In the adult world, you wear that shit just to be acceptable looking. Go into a job i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 03:50 PM
6	She isn't your equal until she washes the crap off her face. To be fair, dragging my ass out into the light of day...I put makeup on so as not to terrify the townspeople. It's expected of you or you look "trashy", "lazy", or "unkempt". It's a standard our culture expects of us. It's so expected that women who forego makeup and still dress well are asked if they're ill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 03:38 PM
2	NSFW: What do you think about this situation? ...There....there was too much of that response that was completely ape-shit I don't even feel like expending the effort for a response. My brain hurts...I need to go to bed. You...have fun I guess....	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 03:18 AM
1	NSFW: What do you think about this situation? I didn't think that was the point of the above quote. Don't get me wrong, I agree that at that point she should have told him to go eat a dick and walked out, but that above quote...sure looks a lot like you were saying he had a point in his dumb fucking behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 02:20 AM
5	NSFW: What do you think about this situation? Look at it in his eyes, what if it was hard for him to give you affection and express himself but did it just for you? What if you were the one being manipulative here by not giving anal while he gave so much love and affection to you? Oh, damn. Is it like that? All this time I could have been demanding my boyfriends let me peg them with a strap on because I do all of my girlfriend duties correctly, and some of them make me uncomfortable. Shit, this has opened my eyes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/15 02:09 AM
2	CMV: Being emotional doesn’t make you weak Say no more. You had me at "oakey curtain".	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 09:40 PM
1	CMV: Being emotional doesn’t make you weak I was raised in a way that made it very clear that coming off as an emotional person was a huge sign of weakness. My mother was made of stone. I followed suit. So while emotion doesn't come off as offputting in circumstances where it's warranted, a person whose go-to move in any kind of conflict is to break down into tears or get angry is going to come across as undisciplined and weak, to me. Man or woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 09:34 PM
2	Sex and value Well, it's harsh. I encounter that kind of mindset a lot. True, a lot of people coming off as "I need your help to bloom" are fucking nut-bags that should be avoided, and you see it seep out later on. BUT, a healthy relationship in which she is just not kinky with you would not, to me, seem like blown investment if it's up to snuff in every other area and sex is still enthusiastic, just not involving the horse mask. I stand by, though, that if your girl was freaky in the beginning with you but i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 02:09 PM
1	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? I always advise against this. This is how you get your car keyed or your tires slashed or your apartment lock picked with the guy standing over you going "I'm sorry, I thought there was a guy here. I just love you so much!" O_O Not. Even. Once.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:55 PM
1	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? See, it's why I always sort of chuckle at the whole idea that "Women go for the bad boys." Because apparently there is an equal amount of men that are drawn to the female equivalent over and over again. Captain Save A Ho and Lady Fix Him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:45 PM
1	Sex and value You got the first part right, but not the second - that one is simply that she had self-esteem issues and these don't come out of thin air, and a guy shouldn't deal with that. If her self esteem issues are presenting in negative ways in the relationship, then yeah. She needs to grow on her own. Seems to me like what you're saying is that she she either should still have those self esteem issues, but with YOU, or the fact that she no longer has that issue with you but had them before sucks for yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:38 PM
1	Sex and value So, condensed, basically she either isn't that into him or she's trust him enough not to leave her if she's not a kinky girl. The former, yes red flag. The latter I would, if brimming with male honor, be flattered that she isn't working herself up into discomfort because she's afraid you'll abandon her if she's not some kink-master. That she see's you as a man with higher needs than popping a wiener in a butt and loves her unconditionally. I thought that's how men were anyway, according to TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:18 PM
1	Sex and value I was kind of referring to engaging in the mans kinks and enjoying them because he enjoyed them. She might consider that now a kink of hers, because she did enjoy it sexually. But, yeah, truly it was not her kink and she enjoyed it because she enjoys watching him greatly aroused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:14 PM
1	Sex and value I've got nothing against those latter traits and would probably find them very endearing. The problem is, I really don't think most guys can fake this kind of attitude. She chances are, they're going to fuck up their relationship because to pass "shit tests" they're coming off the the woman as uncaring sacks of shit who have given up on the relationship. And to establish dominance they're going to condescend to their SO, even in situations where the woman is clearly superior and knows it. Can't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:06 PM
1	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? I honestly think there's not much you can do. If a guy or girl is drawn to that type of person, they have to weather that shitstorm enough to say "Fuck all of this shit." Just try to stay out of the line of fire and keep reminding him what all his girlfriends have in common and go the opposite route next time. All you can do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 01:02 PM
1	Sex and value I don't think that would have worked. He was condescending and aggressive. And then five minutes after being an insufferable cock goblin would attempt to be "sweet" and lovey dovey. Now, some TRP say that acting aggressive is a beta trait, and to that I wholeheartedly agree, because it comes off like a pissy pants toddler. But some at TRP think that displays of strength and being intimidating are a turn on. I just read a post about making the woman you're interested in afraid. Not being her prot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 12:53 PM
1	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? Crazy dudes, crazy chicks....not even once.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 12:45 PM
3	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? Above their league is a stretch to me. I see more women date down, yes. Because they are more willing to do so. Generally, men will try to find the most attractive woman he can land. Most attractive to him. Women will forego the physical far more often for personality. But if a man is with a woman, very rarely will he be with her if she is not physically appealing to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 03:46 AM
3	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? Well, yes. That does happen. But this isn't the picture that TRP paints. TRP paints it as "Women go around getting their 'gina tingles off of one night stands and then come to a point where they want to settle down with a homely man with security." Like they're just getting a bunch of hot guy dicks out of the way first. This makes zero sense to me. Yes, they may be trying to land what they deem really above average guys into a relationship and naively think for a bit that sleeping with them will…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 03:30 AM
8	Sex and value In my opinion, the kinkier stuff comes from wanting to please more and wanting to impress. You get off the more the other gets off. It's an arousal tool. This diminishes the longer you're with someone IF they become less appealing to you. Be it physically or personality-wise. Sex goes more from "I want to get him off." to "I want me to get off." and that can easily be done with basic missionary sex. You're more selfless, so if you do the kinky stuff and the wild positions and don't get off, that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 03:09 AM
3	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? It wasn't really a "value"...I mean, yeah, in high school the big thing was "I got a boyfriend. We're going to go see a movie on Friday and blah blah blah." Having a boyfriend was super fucking cool and romantic displays were very public and exaggerated. It wasn't so much with "Oh, I had sex with blah blah blah last night and tomorrow I'm gonna have sex with his hot friend." There were chicks that did that, but they didn't speak up about it, because it wasn't exactly brag worthy. And we jump off…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 02:59 AM
2	What exactly is “experimenting” when it comes to casual sex? She carried through to the letter the same advice I gave to a friend of mine who was frustrated that she kept getting guys that only wanted to be fuck buddies instead of committing. Which was "Lower your standards physically and get to know their personality before just hopping into bed. An ugly man with an adorable sense of humor becomes beautiful the more you fall in love." The first part was faulty advice. Everyone has standards. I was just trying to help. I've never gone for stereotypically …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 02:48 AM
1	TRP says, women when they are younger sleep around with guys out of their league, and when they get older end up settling down with guys that are less attractive. What exactly do you disagree about this? Well, my personal experience was that I was a serial relationshipper. Even in high school. I would jump from boyfriend to boyfriend to boyfriend and very rarely had casual sex. None of these guys were what one might consider hot, they were all "safe". As in, funny and comforting and well below my league so the chance of being cheated on was fairly low. Come to think of it, most of the women I know did the same. If they had casual sex, it was usually because they had hopes it would turn into some…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/15 02:40 AM
3	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else That's fucking standard? Like, I know you guys take the bitchy blond stereotype and try to apply it to all women, but Christ. That is considered an abusive relationship...or a dom sub relationship. Yes, I've seen both men and women in relationships like these, but they never last long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 10:22 PM
1	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Christ, a post made it to front page about how a guy was banned from r/OffMyChest for nothing more than being a participant in TRP's sub. I've seen it on more occasions on that, though. "Be sure to keep TRP a secret because people won't understand/will treat you poorly/ will hate you for these ideals. Such persecution." I'm guessing that is what this entire thread is addressing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:56 PM
2	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else I don't think it should be raised. I don't mind it dropped to 17 or even 16. I was sexually active at 16, desired it, enjoyed it, and was mentally ready for it. There IS no answer to the problem. But don't expect to have an ideology that has tactics to find a younger woman due to their being more impressionable in order to mold them to fit your own personal needs better and not see people treat you like you're disgusting for it. Because it's disgusting behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:53 PM
5	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else What are the reasons TRP suggests you find a girl in her teens if possible for long term relationship material?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:51 PM
7	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else A 16 year old isn't going to have the child bearing benefits of a woman in her early twenties. George Clooney doesn't have women drooling over him because he's fertile, but because he's somewhat handsome, MORESO terribly charming. And mainly for women you say? I call bullshit on that. I'm still eyeballing men in their early twenties like nommy treats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:49 PM
1	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Unfortunately, where TRP gets this correct, they fail so damn hard almost everywhere else. But A for effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:07 PM
5	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else I've no problem if there is genuine interest in the person that doesn't revolve around molding that person into their own personal ideal. TRP advocates this. Therefor, TRP come off as "the worst case scenario". Because I don't know what world you'd have to be from to think getting into a relationship with someone younger because they are more malleable isn't considered super-villain levels of assholery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:06 PM
4	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Oh, for sure. Youth is beauty, generally. And beauty is loved by all. But beauty doesn't only = youth. And we're not talking about a natural drive for humans to seek beauty in their SO's. We're talking specifically about older person going for younger person. And there's usually more reason that the beauty of that person. There are other appeals. More sinister ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:03 PM
6	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else So, basically : "That's not ALL men! Just them betas." Basically like "That's not ALL women that do that, just the bitches." Gotcha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 06:00 PM
1	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else I don't give a fuck if they give a fuck. But there's been some bitching about being ostracized from other subs. We're into the why that is, not the "Why should they care."	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:56 PM
5	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Blah blah blah blah biotroofs. I've met more men that like women older than them. Hot teacher complex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:53 PM
9	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Is it also why men see a guy with a nice car and assume his dick is much smaller than his own and that he could probably kick that guys ass? Or see one that's well dressed who takes care of himself and assume he must be a fag because the only real men are rugged ones with dirt under their fingernails? Or assume jocks are morons with the IQ of a piece of bread?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:45 PM
7	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else Yeah, that's cool. The problem lies in cultivating one like a fucking herb garden. That's a human being, you're speaking of. And you'd have to be pretty fucking conceited or have a serious god complex to assume you can manipulate people into being exactly what you need without completely fucking that person up or stripping them of their own sense of self.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:41 PM
8	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else How can I hate men? I LOVE penises! ...what? That works for TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:37 PM
7	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else First, note my edit. Second, it's not just the idea of an older man being attracted and interested in a younger woman that's the problem. It's the idea that it is a STRATEGY to chase after younger women BECAUSE they are more impressionable and easier to shove into the perfect little compact wifey of your own design that freaks people the fuck out. Potential predators? In discussions about this on TRP, there IS not guessing, it's not potential. It's the very definition of predatory behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:30 PM
8	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else It could be because a lot of women have been or have known other women who at such a young and impressionable age were drawn into relationships that ended up being severely damaging experiences that warped their ideas of their own self worth for years to come. That pesky empathy. These women aren't looking at the type of guys discussing tactics to pull in a teenager in order to form her into his perfect companion thinking "My, but if only he'd go for ME! But I'm middle aged. Grrr." EDIT: And BEF…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:23 PM
5	No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone else I think the funniest thing is that if they would drop all of this asinine bullshit pointing to the inferiority or (often) serious dislike for the female gender and just stuck with their basic ideas, did away with their more potentially damaging manipulation tactics, then they would be far more accepted. It's their piss-poor attitude and men coming off like jilted lovers on the warpath against anything with a vagina that makes them seem pathetic/bigoted. And I've "debated" with a few TRPers who d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 05:15 PM
3	Do you think that attractive people are superior? Yep. Society coddles the very attractive. Even us normies, though we are resentful, still appreciate looking at and contributing to very good looking people and their success in life. Even babies are more drawn to symmetrical faces. Why? Because exquisite beauty is a rarity. And we appreciate things that are in short supply. We love rarity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/15 04:52 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? No, it's hearsay and subject to scrutiny. As it should be. Especially when an agenda is involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 11:09 PM
5	What should women do ? If you could, you would. "Honor" would fly out the fucking window in a heartbeat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 10:46 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Yeah, personal experience that dictates what MOST women statistically will do...based off of personal experience. Me saying personal experience tells me most men like to be dominated is exactly how TRP operates when discussing what most women want/like/will do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 10:33 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Most of what TRP uses to justify the way they view women is personal experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 10:13 PM
0	So, why do you "hate" women ? It could be an explanation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 10:11 PM
4	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Yeah, but what if her kink is corpse-play?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 04:14 PM
9	So, why do you "hate" women ? Deflection. If he reveals the specific things women did to break him, he reveals a weakness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 03:04 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Make sure she does it right. If she's not pulling your hair and calling you her bitch, it won't have the same effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 03:00 PM
1	So, why do you "hate" women ? Maybe these women you encounter are just much better looking than you. When I'm dressed down in my ugly wear with no makeup, I get the same treatment from very attractive guys. With men you get politeness or acknowledgements. I get the same from women. Genders treat their own respectfully, usually.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:58 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? It's not really fair. Women don't exactly have a prostate. But it's something I'd advise every dude to try at least once, because the orgasm can be spectacular. So I'm told.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:48 PM
2	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? If you're into trying it, make sure to ask your wife when she is appropriately inebriated. Far more likely to be open and engaged in the idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:40 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Most TRPers probably still long to be pegged, but are ashamed of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:38 PM
1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? It's like a treat, really. For the guy. I'm not a fan of doing it. I'm naturally submissive in bed, dominant out. But I will if it's desired...it's just not exactly a treat for ME. Give and take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:33 PM
3	Women of PPD: Why should men not hate women? Because it offers an easily digestible cure-all with steps included. Like a fad diet. For lonely men. In general? They shouldn't feel obligated past the base-line respect one individual gives to another, regardless of gender. On an individual basis? I suppose it would depend on whether the person is deserving of respect in general. Why should I respect men in general? It's an odd question. As far as the anger at the SMP, I get the frustration, I guess. Women have it too when they see much hotter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:29 PM
0	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? You'd be surprised how often men will get all excited at the idea. Men who are 100% heterosexual. Men do like to be dominated more often than what society lets on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:14 PM
3	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Not really. I've just done my fair share of pegging with a hot pink strap on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 02:05 PM
2	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? Interestingly, the same cultural taboo against a man being dominated that would keep him from expressing this desire is often what drives it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 01:58 PM
-1	Do you think that most men want to be sexually dominant, in a similar way to how TRP assumes most women want to be sexually submissive? If we're going off of personal experience...I'd say most men like to be dominated. Up the butt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/15 01:54 PM
7	Is food a greater pleasure to women than sex is? That's tough....no it's not. Sushi > penis. Every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/15 04:11 PM
1	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. I saw the typo, but made the mistake of thinking you'd be smart enough to see it for what it was...but no instead your bias shows and you immediately go on the attack. From the makers of "AWALT" and "AFBB", I was totally expected to see through "tits talk" and recognize it as a typo...even though the sentence itself was very poorly structured? And that's a comment on MY intelligence? Bahahaa. Because modern comedic conventions are based of off older comedic conventions "Based" off of or very fuc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/15 03:07 PM
1	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. I'd point out the massive differences in culture, nowadays it's seen as almost sinful to criticize overweight people especially, a show based on Roman mores would not fly now, especially considering Rome was a patriarchy. First, this has been a trope since before the fat acceptance movement. And often their weight was addressed in jokes. Just not your previous statement of them being undesirable to their wives. That, you pulled forth from your ass. And can't provide me with one example. How can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/15 02:29 PM
2	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. Because why would such a show sell? a show where the hubby is fat and the wife just shits on him for it. ... Fuck it if you've ever read Roman literature you can find the same trope there, unhappy wife married to guy she doesn't find attractive, classic hijinks ensue. Jesus. Just pointing out facts, you're the one that keeps threatening to quit. Quit? I never quit. I'm not an advocate of too much of the treat them mean/dread game approach, in my experience just walk away. Aw, so you now don't ap…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 07:48 PM
3	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. ...And? it's a cartoon, not real life, in real life, of course the title character is going to have exceptions for him left right and center. The title character, the main character, yeah...it's usually that fat guy. Guess you can't name one then? I've given just one example to show the wife is attracted to the fat shmuck but you can't dole out on where she's actively disgusted by him and that creates "hijinks"? Oy. You've got nothing and accuse me of scrabbling? alright. Rule number one of winn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 06:24 PM
3	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. Where was I applauding anthying? I shouldn't have to spell it out for you. You align yourself with core TRP beliefs. Fuck it if you've ever read Roman literature you can find the same trope there, unhappy wife married to guy she doesn't find attractive, classic hijinks ensue. Are you fucking kidding me? Unhappy wife married to guy she doesn't find attractive. Please name me ONE single modern comedy where the fat guy hot wife trope is used where the wife isn't totally attracted to the fat husband…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 05:16 PM
3	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. Really were? i'd say i'm more purple pill these days, just pointing out my own life experiences, which I experienced long before discovering trp. Yadda yadda yadda, you still ended up here applauding that shitty sub for coming to the same skewed, slanted-ass conclusions you came to. Most physical/sight based comedy stemming from the fact that in the middle ages people married for economical reasons, back then attraction/love was for lovers and mistresses. Yes, yes. Modern comedy is so often base…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 04:52 PM
3	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. So I say something you don't like so I must have a bad personality? You gobble up TRP's bullshit like your hypothetical sloots gobble cock, so I'm pretty confident that your personality is akin to Cancer. You can cover that up with being funny, but you can't hide that shit that well. People are going to read you. Aaah this old assumption, my country is quite conservative (abortions are a no-no) and reddit isn't all that popular so i doubt it, I've met a few messes but i've also met some great gi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 04:35 PM
3	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. So shaming, insults and wishful thinking? typical. QQ I see this a lot, people on here refuse to believe I could want or ever be in a normal relationship. Nah, man. It's obvious you've got this really ugly blemish that turns women off. Called personality. Can't be fat AND have a shit personality. Obviously you had to up one of them to draw any sort of attention. Luckily for you, that attention would be from the women you probably wanted in the first place. Shallow, superficial, packaged with shi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 04:22 PM
2	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. Love me some Steve Buscemi too. I think my first little girl crush was on David Spade. Now, he's not a BAD looking guy, but not what one would look at and generally lust after according to TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 04:10 PM
7	Men have no idea what women want, because women have no idea what they want. Think of a someone like Andy Samberg. I used to think Andy Samberg was the weirdest lookin dude I ever saw. I cannot tell you how often this shit happens to me. Immediately repulsed by looks, and then the damn personality gets me. Ranging from Jonathan Davis to Matt Smith to freaking Colin Mockry. Yes, Colin Mockry. And it seems to be a phenomenon that is gender specific. I've never known ANY guys to see an ugly chick and become infatuated due to her sparkling personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/15 03:54 PM
3	Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men? Shyeah. I've dated down plenty of times and it wasn't for their money...or lack thereof. I just happen to dig pudgy dudes with great senses of humor. Hot wife fat husband isn't some random trope. It exists for a reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/15 04:47 AM
1	Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men? Like I've said before, I see way more women with boyfriends below their physical standards than the other way around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/15 02:36 AM
3	Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men? At best you have one or two such acquiantances... and then you project it on whole communities Hmmmm....	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/15 07:00 PM
7	Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men? Are we a bunch of older people talking about what teenagers do or are most of you guys teenagers? I've experienced it too many times not to believe that men definitely have the tendency to long for and "friendzone" themselves with very good looking women while completely ignoring other women that aren't as attractive. They ARE essentially asking "Why don't hot women want me?" when they say "Why doesn't anybody want me?" and of course, the only answer we want to give them is "Because your standar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/15 04:32 PM
5	Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men? And this is frequently automatically assumed about all men who fail to find love, which fits into my OP. What gives? What leads people to automatically assume bad things about a low status man? It's observable. Many men (and women) who complain and moan constantly about not finding someone to be with do so after rejecting multiple options that they thought they were too good for. Essentially, hearing the whining about being soooo lonely and just wanting SOMEONE to love sounds like bullshit, and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/15 02:56 PM
1	I wrote a letter to my wife Feelings are hard to analyze intellectually. She might give him a straightforward answer, for sure, but human beings suffer numerous disconnects between how they feel and why they think they feel that way. We're shit at analyzing powerful feelings like "sexual attraction." I happen to be of the opinion that you guys go way too far into trying to decipher all of the hidden reasons women like men. It just doesn't need to be that complicated. People generally have types they are into. And they are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 10:44 PM
0	I wrote a letter to my wife Yeah, I say a lot of words. Sometimes I string them together in coherent sentences, too. Adorbz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 04:43 PM
1	I wrote a letter to my wife I think it is. Perhaps he changed a little since then, but I bet he fixed that real quick once the sex dried up. Not if he currently views the sex as a given since he popped a ring on her finger. Not at all an uncommon thought process among married men. "I already put in the effort, you owe me a lifetime of putting out now." Then their key strategy to get more sex becomes indignation that they still have to work that hard to get it and incessant whining. Doesn't yield results, but damned if they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 04:28 PM
2	I wrote a letter to my wife Oy, you are purposefully dense. Not even remotely the same thing, and no. What he's doing now is most probably not what he was doing when he got her. But cling, my friend. Cling away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 04:23 PM
2	I wrote a letter to my wife I disagree, because your marriage didn't survive. It didn't get better. You're putting yourself in her situation and imagining him as your ex, that doesn't make you more qualified, that makes you side with her. My marriage didn't survive because he kept up with the stupid mind games and tactics and refused to put any actual effort into being the dude I married in the first place. He was sour, sullen, and aggressive. Night and day from when we dated. But that couldn't have been the issue, not for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 04:10 PM
2	I wrote a letter to my wife Reading through his little letter to his wife strongly reminded me of someone I used to know before divorcing him, so yeah...I'd probably be THE BEST person to give him advice and a reality check, before he tanks the whole fucking thing. People aren't mad that it "inconveniences the wife". That's fucking paranoia. He can ignore her all he wants and focus his attention elsewhere. A little of that might be good, some space does help of course. But that's not gonna fix the meat of the issue. He can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 03:52 PM
1	I wrote a letter to my wife It's terrible advice. He's smoothered her and chased her away, your advice is to smoother harder and chase faster. So now he's smothered her and chased her away? Here I thought she just got bored of him. That's what you said. Which is it? Or do you mean him wanting sex and pushing her is smothering her? If so, I agree on that front. Coming off as sexually needy and then angry when denied is probably the most unappealing thing a guy can do. Yes, in that case, he ought to step away from trying to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 03:46 PM
0	I wrote a letter to my wife At this point the risk is worth it, no? It really depends if the guy is willing to tank his marriage to fix it. Yours is a riskier strategy, so is it really the smartest to try first? Hmmm.... Did your respect plummet, or were you offended because their needs inconvenienced you? Were you married for 8 years to these guys? One of them I was married for 5 years, and yes indeed my respect plummeted. When you see your SO making obvious attempts to "punish you" for not wanting to fuck his unappealing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 03:34 PM
2	I wrote a letter to my wife And that's what makes your answer vague. You might as well say: Be attractive Don't be unattractive It's useless advice. No, it's complicated advice. You're offering a cure-all in capsule form that has the potential to backfire heinously, I'm offering a more difficult, but sound strategy based on the fact that he woo'd her into fucking him in the first place. It's not vague to him if he was fucking there, doing the shit that got her attracted to him in the first damn place. Your only problem wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 02:56 PM
0	I wrote a letter to my wife I think you'll find if you simply reread it, you'll have your answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 02:43 PM
1	I wrote a letter to my wife What is charm? What specifically is he not doing? Your inability to answer that with anything but "be more like you were!" "be more charming and fun", etc is why it is vague. Because different people find different things charming. Obviously early in the relationship she found him charming enough to enthusiastically have sex with. I'd advice him to do some homework, sit and think about some of their best and most intimate memories, and think about how his behavior helped to bring those to fruiti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 02:35 PM
2	I wrote a letter to my wife Why is that vague? Dude lived it. Give him a little credit, he bagged her in the first place. It's just that once she was bagged, he got into security mode and dropped the initial charm and pizzazz he used in the first place to get her. As many do when they get good and comfy in a relationship. ETA: I mean, what's more likely to get him more sex? Him acting like a completely different person than who she agreed to be with or him simply acting like the person he was when she agreed to be with him…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 02:05 PM
1	I wrote a letter to my wife Spot on. Though I disagree that TRP will tell him how to make her desire him. The letter itself isn't going to make her go "Oh, well I wasn't wanting to have sex with you, but since you just explained how you really want sex, that changes everything. I really want to have sex with you now." Dude needs to up his charm factor similar to how he was when he was courting her. I'm guessing he's too lazy to try that tactic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/15 01:59 PM
1	Why some women have "rape fantasies" and why "rape fantasy" is a terrible term. Sure there are some women that really get off on saying no and having their boundaries pressed as a sort of mental foreplay. A problem can occur assuming all women have this. And an even bigger problem can occur when trying to act it out, as a woman can go from "I want this." to "I changed my mind" in a split second. Safety words are our friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/15 05:59 PM
6	What is the female equivalent to Wizardchan, ForeverAlone, and other incel sites? Maybe women generally bitch about being alone to friends and family, rather than anonymously on the internet. I also think there is a larger taboo of a younger woman being unable to find someone, largely due to the idea that women have it so much easier in the dating market. Therefor, a perpetually single younger woman who has been looking in vain will feel too ashamed to go to "support" places about it and instead just quietly deal with the loneliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/15 09:27 PM
1	What do you think about Game? Let me be a fat neckbeard autist and expect to get laid because somewhere out there in the world there is 1 girl, who for whatever storied reason will bang me. Guys like this do find girlfriends. They manage. I've witnessed it. You'd be surprised what sorry excuses for men or women end up with a significant other no matter how stereotypically unappealing they may be. I like the ending to your post. Not sure if being sarcastic though. Not so much sarcasm as general despair. The fact that people f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 10:48 PM
1	What do you think about Game? There are very clear cut step by step processes to being less socially awkward. There was one posted on TRP a while back which harkened back to the way I got out of my shell. You can become charismatic or rather, you can be set on the path to become charismatic. Sorry, being charismatic is a trait that needs to already be present in at least a small amount in order to be honed. People who are severely stunted socially will not be able to reach "charismatic" levels later in life via a step by ste…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 05:21 PM
1	What do you think about Game? What you just said describes the kind of mental gymnastics I used to do to justify being fat to myself. I know it's not true because I've experienced it myself. Sorry, what actual part of what I said did you disagree with? Were you not, raised in a fat family, more prone to be fat yourself? I mean, just from the nurture angle, your family's eating habits were taught to you. I also agreed that it's not an excuse and changeable. Being overweight has a step by step process that is much more clear c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 04:25 PM
2	What do you think about Game? Again, that's the rub. I could attempt it, and I might get to a certain point. But I would never be able to reach black belt status because I simply do not have the physical or mental inclination toward martial arts. Oh, I could DO it. I just couldn't excel at it. And that's cool, different people are suited to different things. And some people aren't really suited to much of anything noteworthy. Not everyone can be winners. Not everyone can be super good at something. That's a hard lesson for p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 02:27 PM
2	What do you think about Game? It's not a terrible analogy. I don't think that obesity is genetic, no. But I think certain people have a predisposition to lack of will power and inclination to over indulge as well as an aversion to physical activity which contributes to obesity. Obviously, with added effort, it can be overcome. That having been said, eating healthy and exercising is a hell of a lot more simple to embrace from a technical standpoint. You know "I have to do this, this, and this, and I will lose weight." But the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 02:18 PM
2	What do you think about Game? People are fairly different in preferences. Predisposition doesn't always trump preference. We have a predisposition to crave protein but plenty of people refuse to eat meat or beans because they don't like them, for whatever reason. Maybe they filled up on beans one time and got really ill, so now they have an aversion. Plenty of people will grow aversions or preferences to certain things based on experience. If you've dated a short guy who was amazing in bed, then you could grow a preference f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 02:09 PM
1	What do you think about Game? When you start a new sport or hobby like martial arts. Everybody start at a white belt and develops from there. Although at different speeds and applying different talents. Along that analogy, I could try to get into karate at this point and would never reach a black belt. I simply lack things like balance, good depth perception, and any semblance of physical strength. While others would excel and take to it like a duck to water.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/15 02:01 PM
1	What do you think about Game? Correct. A hairlip is going to be pretty tough to overcome with any amount of charisma. That having been said, it is so damn rare that I ever see a guy that I deem simply too ugly to even attempt to approach me. Hygiene may come into play, but a wonky face or a bit of chub was never so much a deterrent that a sparkling personality would have been overshadowed. Dude could come over with teeth like Kirsten Dunst and I'd still be in it if he could make me laugh so hard I pissed myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 08:19 PM
0	What do you think about Game? I think a very large part of it IS genetics. If you take into account that sometimes identical twins can have drastically different personalities and interests. Same home environment, (assumedly) same structure in being raised...yet different inclinations toward different things even at a very early age. There was nothing in my early childhood that lead me to be bookish and my other two siblings to be more socially inclined. That's just how it turned out. The other two siblings took after my mot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 08:14 PM
0	What do you think about Game? I disagree. It would be like saying some people aren't "just naturally funny". That's simply not true. Some people just have a natural inclination toward certain things. I fully believe that some men are just more naturally inclined to be socially appealing than others. Woe to the man that has little to no natural social awareness who tries through tips and tricks to force themselves to act in a way they just don't fit. Not because they're "faking it" but because their version of "game" or being…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 07:07 PM
1	What do you think about Game? I'd consider it separate. You can be confident and still a complete moron. Or outgoing and irritating as hell. Charismatic is a good word, but also sort of all-encompassing. Charismatic, to me, simply means assessing situations and people on the fly and relating to them in a way they find pleasing. And I'm not entirely sure that charisma is something that CAN be taught. Hell, tact itself is clearly something a lot of people have trouble utilizing well in social situations, and I find that to be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 06:57 PM
1	What do you think about Game? I suppose RP advocate a physically appealing form as a sort of insta-snare and then charisma for the bulk of the draw in for attraction, but it seems to me that charisma goes a very very long way in attraction. So when I see somebody of the RP persuasion saying "Step one: Don't be ugly." I cringe. I think it's very often overlooked that HOW you approach and talk to women makes a far bigger difference in the long haul than how you LOOK when you approach or talk to women. I've turned away more tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 06:52 PM
1	What do you think about Game? Well, of course, practice with interacting with people will help develop social skills and reading people. But the people attending these gaming seminars are pretty socially inept. It sucks, but if I'm perfectly honest, I think there are a large amount of people out there who just aren't very skillful in interacting with others and no amount of seminars or reading material is ever going to do more than have them try out strategies with little or no tact and come out looking like an even bigger t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 06:46 PM
1	What do you think about Game? I suppose I don't, is that generally the case? If I'm to be honest, I see more women dating men below their standards physically than the other way around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 03:56 PM
5	What do you think about Game? I think people will generally react pretty similarly to certain stimuli. BUT, the difficulty comes in when you consider how different everyone's psyche is. For instance, what might work on the chipper high-schooler won't work on the college student who has other priorities and attractions. Some women are attracted to muscle, some women are attracted to smart and charming bean-poles. Some women like cocky, others are actively turned off by that attitude. Some women like a super-confident guy that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/15 03:32 PM
1	Going on a break. Good, bad or neutral decision for those in an LTR? Actual success stories? One of my closest chick friends was prompted to "take a break" from her then boyfriend of about two years. She was convinced it was just his way of trying to go sleep with other women, so she was dead set on letting the break turn into a break up when he contacted her again. It took all of a week and a half before he called her telling her how much he missed her and wanted her and her resistance didn't last long. They were back together that day and stayed together for ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/15 01:28 AM
4	Sum it up up in one line... Mutual respect and attraction are not exclusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/15 11:54 PM
2	"But men do that too!" - We know, but we're not trying to sleep with men I don't know about the people who have responded to you with "but men do it too!", but from my standpoint, if I were to make that argument, it would be more along the lines of "Men do that just as much. If both men and women do these things just as much, then how is it a stretch to look at the male point of view for doing A and assume that there must be a different reason for a woman to do A?" I would think the reasons would be pretty damn similar. Why do men cheat? The excitement, the sexual ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/15 05:38 PM
5	CMV: The way that blue pillers here argue is meant to convince themselves, not to convince red pillers. I know this isn't really pertinent, but the mental image was delightful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/15 10:30 PM
1	CMV: The way that blue pillers here argue is meant to convince themselves, not to convince red pillers. Well, you're gonna run into a few people who aren't on here to actually debate, and are only looking for a fight because they are so flabbergasted by TRP's often dangerous views on women and men. When you say TRP don't advocate rape or manipulation, you're either being purposefully obtuse or sincerely confused. No, TRP does not advocate rape at knifepoint (or maybe some do, I don't think the majority has that as ideal) but they do advocate pushing boundaries and assuming consent even when there …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/15 10:17 PM
3	Is male attractiveness more rare than female? He's oddly sexy. I'm always instantly attracted to smiley guys. Hal Sparks was a big one for me for a while and before that, when I was young...Mr. Kotter. Yes, Mr. freaking Kotter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/15 05:59 PM
2	Is male attractiveness more rare than female? I only like him when he's smiling, I've noticed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/15 05:57 PM
4	Is male attractiveness more rare than female? Women do have similar standards, or you wouldn't see so many of them with dudes with beer guts and video game addictions. Women have an ideal like men have an ideal. That usually involves this : http://markmeets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Jason-Momoa-.jpg But can also involve this : http://media.salon.com/2012/07/stewart_rect.jpg Yes, I do have a giant girl boner for Jon Stewart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/15 03:44 PM
2	CMV: I don't believe men have anything to gain in marrying, and I want nothing to do with it. Yep. You can do a ceremony and the whole nine without needing to actually get tied legally with someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 09:43 PM
1	There's a rift between "true" TRP, and bastardized reddit TRP. Because grouping all women together based on some bad dating decisions and taking revenge on them as a whole is far more satisfying. A-duh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 06:57 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? LMAO where do you get this shit? The lack of self awareness you exhibit is astounding. People don't decide their needs. I could easily retort back to you that sexual gratification should be your main need, not deeper companionship, and I'd be just as wrong. How the fuck did you type out that one cannot negotiate genuine desire in your previous comment, then immediately come back with attempting to negotiate genuine desire for companionship? I posted it referencing the previous written notion tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 01:14 AM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Yes, it shouldn't HAVE to be, but ultimately it's on him to give her the push she needs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:40 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? That makes me pretty sad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:40 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Right, that topper does need to happen sometimes, but it is not essential for every sexual encounter. I can't tell you the amount of times I've had to comfort an SO because he was disappointed that I hadn't had an orgasm those handful of times that it happened. Bit nonplussed because I was certain my enjoyment of the activity was very obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:38 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? A ridiculous level or just the same level the husband was exhibiting during those precarious courting days? I don't doubt at all that some women's libido can go into hibernation mode all of their own accord, but I do think the main reason is because both sides just kind of...give up. The man gives up on the courting because he's settled and married and the woman gives up on the sex because she's no longer being courted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:36 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? That's...somewhat of a horrifying read. That was not my experience at all when having sex before marriage. It wasn't all just to please him (although some of it was the getting off on him getting off aspect). I was genuinely aroused and DESIRED to have sex and feel him inside of me (TMI, whatever, we're all adults here). I had the urge, sometimes just at random while looking at him. This was because he was on his very best and most charming behavior in those times. It wasn't until we were marrie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:32 AM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? kids Well, with this one there is a hormonal issue after having children. Sex drive for a woman can decrease for a while after having kids, sometimes to nill. What if she doesn't really see whatever "killed her desire" as a problem? What if she doesn't care? I have no idea how to answer that because I've never experienced this mindset. You say it's really common, but I've never known a person to feel fulfilled by their partner and just NOT desire any sort of sexual intimacy with them. In those s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:16 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Furthermore, I've had perfectly enjoyable sex that didn't even result in an orgasm. It's an odd concept for men to understand, but intense arousal in and of itself is incredibly gratifying all by itself and the orgasm is just a tiny topper on that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:09 AM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? MOST wives would be content with the idea of never having sex again for the rest of their lives? Jesus.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:55 PM
1	In addition to "The Wall" there is also the "Skeletor Phase." TRP seems to be aware of it, but they haven't labelled it. Is there a real feminist plan for the Skeletor Phase? Well, you do have to wait until all hope is drained. They need to be mid to late forties and had a string of relationships in which they were unceremoniously dumped and are now wallowing in a miserable existence of loneliness and tv dinners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:54 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Plenty of people refuse anti-depressants even when they're suicidally depressed. People don't have the best judgement or get-up-and-go when there are chemicals at play.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:53 PM
2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? It all boils down to WHY the woman went from enjoying sex before and now not seeing much value in it. Women can't force themselves to be aroused by their partner. And it's perfectly reasonable to assume that after marriage men spend a little (lot) less time and energy being as sexually enticing as they were before marriage. For me PERSONALLY, one of the sexier elements before marriage was that sex wasn't a necessity at certain allotted times or a quota I had to fill. He was at his most charming …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:51 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? However, where men get frustrated is when the amount of energy and sacrifice required to inspire the second option is way more than they initially signed on for in the relationship. Generally, men are happy to exert the effort and charm to get laid while dating but once marriage is solidified, they then think of it as an automatic instead of actively showing the sexually enticing traits that drew her in the first place. Men want the sex they had before marriage with their spouse. Likewise, women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:44 PM
2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Yeah, another thing TRPers understand - women can and do use sex as a bargaining chip and/or weapon. You seem to be pretty well aligned with RP on this subject... That's where the false equivalency of RP comes in. In reality, it's more of a cause and effect than a premeditated "bargaining chip or "weapon". But because TRP likes to paint women as nefarious, of course this will be the conclusion they comes to. Isn't it much simpler to just see it as cause and effect? Punch me and I'll get angry. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 11:25 PM
6	CMV: I don't believe men have anything to gain in marrying, and I want nothing to do with it. This. Other than legal reasons, getting married is utterly useless and simply staying with someone will suffice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:37 PM
3	In addition to "The Wall" there is also the "Skeletor Phase." TRP seems to be aware of it, but they haven't labelled it. Is there a real feminist plan for the Skeletor Phase? Just do what my decidedly skeletor-looking stepmother did. Find a guy with kids who has lost all hope in ever finding someone to settle down with, latch on like a tick, and propose! Problem solved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:33 PM
3	In addition to "The Wall" there is also the "Skeletor Phase." TRP seems to be aware of it, but they haven't labelled it. Is there a real feminist plan for the Skeletor Phase? Dude, it's right there in front of you. It's the dreaded "witch" phase. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120630143955/villains/images/8/8f/Wicked_witch.jpg	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:29 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Well put. Either give the extra oomph to get her in the mood or get your lackluster duty sex. No point in bitching and moaning about "what should be". If I had my way, all husbands would come equipped with a natural desire to keep a clean house and if not, they should help to keep the house clean because they share the home. But obviously, that's just not the case and I end up doing most of the legwork there to compensate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:22 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Ah, well in that case then yeah. Pass him a blowie or two. If the relationship is just peachy but it's a strict matter of libido, it is selfish not to extend that courtesy if your partner is fulfilling you in your needs. I was speaking of a lack in libido being caused by marital issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 08:08 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? When it gets to the point of dead bedroom, I can assure you the issues go deeper than just the lack of sex. If you're not even willing to have regular intercourse because things are rocky what in the hell would drive a woman to give him a blowie for a quick release?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 07:33 PM
-2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? The very essence of the RP repetitive "you can't negotiate desire" IS because they believe communicating your needs and wants is trying to verbally negotiate desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 07:20 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? What would be "wrong" about it? Misguided, yes. Mistaken? I'd say so given the number of factors that tend to lead to diminished sex after marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 07:19 PM
-3	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I've seen it said loads of times. Here's an endorsed one: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/282ehe/be_selfish_dismissive_amused_and_communicate_less/ The general consensus I've seen over at TRP is that whether in the bedroom on in the relationship itself, communication is to be at a bare minimum. Because men DO, they don't TALK ABOUT IT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:47 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I said that companionship and sex shouldn't be mutually exclusive. And it's not out of line for someone being married to expect the same level of sex life pre-marriage. Expecting it and getting it are two different things. Expect it all you want, but if you've gone lax on yourself and are now a very much diminished version of who you were when still courting her, don't be surprised if her desire for sex is also diminished from courting days. Then someone replied, "boohoo biology", and you replie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:29 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Think about it, if it were all about the orgasm (and orgasms do feel great) women would be just as inclined to be in the bathroom throughout the day rubbing one out as men do. It's not all about the orgasm. The orgasm in the cherry on top of sex. The sex itself is the main event.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:20 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I get that. Some women, not all, but I'd bet the majority have more ties in with sex than the superficial closeness and orgasm. It's more of a giving yourself over. If there's a lack of trust or a lack of emotional intimacy, there's a lack of drive for that particular act. I do think your wife in particular probably has a hormone imbalance, though. I would urge her to get it checked out. Make sure you come across to her as a worry not only about your sexual needs but about her emotional well-bei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:18 PM
2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I have no idea what I'd do with a fleshlight...centerpiece for the dinner table? If you're sexually appealing you won't have a dead bedroom. So what exactly are we debating? My stance is that just because a man and woman are married does not mean that sex will enthusiastically be dispensed from that point forward under any circumstances. You let yourself go, you cause pain and hurt that lingers and causes distance, you act pushy and like it is owed to you....none of those things are going to be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:09 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? This doesn't address the fact that for women, the orgasm isn't all that important or enjoyable enough to get into the act of sex if they're not in the mood for it. Many women won't even bother to masturbate, even though there's a much higher chance of orgasming. The want for sex is the want for physical closeness on a primal level, and if the guy isn't pushing those buttons, then the drive doesn't turn on. Simply assuring her an orgasm isn't going to make her any more inclined to engage in sex b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 06:02 PM
-2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I was referring to the mindset of "I just won't get married then." Right, that's a good solution for you if effort for sex is not worth it. Stick to the dating scene. If, on the other hand, your solution is to find another wife, good luck thinking you can manage to find one willing to enthusiastically put out without any effort on your part to be sexually appealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:57 PM
3	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Nope, it's not. It IS when they want to be sexually unappealing and still get sex on the regular. You can't whine or pressure your way into a fulfilling sex life. Harsh reality, but there it is. You always have to work for it to a certain extent. Marriage is no exception. You can freely bang a fleshlight to your hearts content with no complaints on the fleshlights part, but if your asking for anything concerning the relating of two separate individuals, you're gonna have to grease the wheels to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:53 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Just dunno what you want anyone to say to that. Thanks for proclaiming yourself off the market? Aw, that's too bad? You should reconsider? Haha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:50 PM
-2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Your potential future wife weeps for that great loss.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:43 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Well, that's gonna take some pushing from you to get it done. Hormone imbalances have more effects than just libido. It can cause anxiety and depression as well. Especially as estrogen dips during the pre-menstrual phase. She might be reluctant because she just feels blah about everything but you need to prompt her to get it checked out because chances are she's being affected by something that is treatable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:05 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? She doesn't go in for the tests or she doesn't accept treatment for hormonal imbalances? Never underestimate what effects a hormone imbalance can have on a person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 04:59 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Is she underweight? She may have low estrogen. If so, that's treatable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 04:32 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? If your husband just stopped working, ignored you completely, and ate junk food all day you'd be pretty pissed right? Pissed or less inclined to be sexually intimate? If your husband is taking care of his responsibilities (lifting, taking care of the manly stuff, supporting you) I'd wager a guy who is supportive, loving and stays physically fit probably isn't experiencing a dead bedroom unless there were long periods of neglect that caused scar tissue beforehand, so this doesn't even fit into th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:58 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Well, I'd disagree with that because it may be harder for a spouse to cut ties but it's definitely not harder for them to cheat. And no spouse wants their SO to cheat on them, that would be reason enough to keep going with the unwanted sex. But, at least from my experience...I cannot speak for other women...sex was way more carefree and fun and sporadic before marriage. I liked my partner better before marriage because he was only showing the good side and hiding the bad. Not only that, but as y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:50 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? In RP, communication is supposed to be the death knell for activities in the bedroom. Haha. But I do wholeheartedly agree with staying in shape for both parties. Let's be honest, letting your body go isn't sexy. For either partner. Them's the breaks. You can still love that person with all your heart but you're likely not willing to rip their clothes off in lust anymore after years of xbox and doughnuts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:45 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? I just see it as "What?! We can expect to expend EFFORT to get sexins? That sucks! I don't even want to play anymore." Okay, kid. Take your ball and go home then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:41 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? In other words "It takes effort to figure out the root of why she's behaving this way and to work around it and effort is super hard! I'd rather sink the ship than exert any actual effort! Screw that!" Yeah, maybe you should just stay single. Marriage has a hell of a lot more pitfalls and hard work involved that just the frequency of grinding your genitals together, I assure you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:39 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? You're thinking from the male point of view. She NEEDS to do it for the sake of the marriage. Not really how reality works. In reality, the only person that improves the marriage for is the man while the woman is still left wanting whatever it is that kills her desire for sex with you in the first place. It's recipe for disaster, in which you think everything is fine and dandy until the divorce papers appear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:37 PM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? There's really nothing sexier than a laid back go-with-the-flow attitude. Sex never really runs out with dudes that have that aura about them. It's the tense, vein popping out of the neck, powderkeg types of guys willing to throw a tantrum over this and that that really kill the sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:32 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:30 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Well, in my experience, all that would have been required for the type of sex with my ex that we had before marriage would have been for him to have acted the same way he had before marriage. But that didn't happen. Once the marriage was finalized, an angrier, more bitter, less happy-go-lucky and fun, and more hurtful man came forth and hurts built up and left scar tissue that sapped a desire for closeness on most levels, but especially sexual intimacy. So I guess you'd need to ask yourself...di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:22 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? They ain't liking the "RP biotroofs" today. They want their cake and to eat it too and apparently bitching and moaning about it is now a viable solution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:14 PM
0	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? If that's what helps you sleep at night. I think it's far more likely that you're just not being a sexually appealing person in one way or another as opposed to women just fervently NOT wanting sex after marriage. Hormones are hormones and women get horny just as men do. Everything loses its fun when there's a feeling of obligation. That's just human nature. And isn't sex supposed to be fun? I don't want to have to equate it with taking the trash out or mowing the lawn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:07 PM
2	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? And here I thought RP constantly chirped about how "desire isn't negotiable". How are them RP truths working out for you when a woman straight up says "If I'm in a not-sexy situation, I'm less inclined to have sex." There are all kinds of selfish. There's the kind of selfish where a man thinks that just because he wants sex super duper REALLY bad that he is owed it regardless of his own behavior that may be sexually off-putting. None of that really matters, though, because the bottom line is tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 03:03 PM
-1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? You're under the impression that all men think like that because you're in the echo chamber that is RP. Men are just as capable of being more inclined to a bonded relationship where sex isn't the first and foremost priority. RP won't tell you that, though. Generally, because most of the guys drawn to RP ARE of the variety that considers sex the most important thing in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 02:57 PM
3	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? If you're of the opinion that your main need out of a woman is sexual gratification, then I can almost guarantee that that is the underlying factor of a sexless marriage. Your main need OUGHT to be companionship at a deeper level than sexual intercourse, with sexual intercourse being a perk. But, what ought to be and what is are two different things and the man that wants a companion more than his desire for sex as opposed to the man that desires regular sex and companion second are two differen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 05:54 AM
1	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Hey, I'm sorry if this hit close to home for you. Didn't intend to. In all honesty, my experience was far different that what yours is describing. I can't say what would be going through your wife's head with any certainty. For me, however, it was a constant toxic relationship where sex was expected to be served up on a silver platter a certain amount of times a week and if I did not perform, there were "consequences". Sometimes that might be an especially irritable husband who would go off over…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 02:44 AM
6	How do BP and TRP explain the (drastic) decrease of sex frequency in marriage? What would both sides do to fix it? Agree with all of that. I'd also add that there can be a certain amount of pushiness in regards to sex. Pressure just isn't sexy. Knowing it's expected of you just isn't sexy. Feeling like you have to just isn't sexy. While the relationship is still somewhat casual, sex isn't EXPECTED, it's a treat for both parties, and that makes it more frequent because it's enjoyable. There is nothing less sexy than someone breathing down your neck with an expectant look on their face while you cozy up for be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 12:14 AM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? The real answer is: he can't, because he's just mediocre. He can't even get one woman above his league, let alone multiple ones. I'm hearing you, but this still doesn't account for all of the men who are "trapped in the friendzone" who DO have other options, just not other option they're interested in. You speak of the "sunken cost fallacy" as the reason a guy in the friendzone won't turn his attention to different woman, but if he's to the point of "losing a hefty investment", he's been there a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 03:11 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? Which is why I feel that it is more ego-based than a lack of abundance mentality. Not just any ol' chick will do. This one is special, be it the most beautiful and interesting and charming or simply the most difficult prize to obtain. It can then be argued whether men have a greater need to stroke their own ego over matters like this, often to the detriment of themselves, than women, who are less likely to get in the "friendzone" mindset due to them being less concerned with a personal pissing c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 05:33 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? Most of the cases I know aren't about the guy punching above his league - it's more about him becoming too invested in the woman in question to simply let go. Right, being out of their league was one of the reasons I stated, and I believe to be the most common though your opinion may differ. My main point was that the person in question has "pedestalized" one particular girl and even if she's not objectively the most beautiful, or interesting, that is the one he has set his sights on. Sometimes,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 04:59 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? That might be the case. In my personal experience, the guy friends that I have that complain about the friendzone have other options, just not AS GOOD OF options as that one particularly impossible to get option. And it seems to me they are subconsciously making an assessment of what they deserve, not what's available. Even the "I'm so ugly/boring/stupid, I'll never find a girlfriend" guys. If you point out the chubby chick that's interested in him or the girl with the more plain face or the one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 03:54 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? So whenever you read my take on the soulmate myth, you always have to see in that context of it promoting scarcity mentality. I agree with you on the soul-mate myth, but for different reasons. I think, underlying the lovey-dovey surface, at the heart it is actually a possessive and selfish impulse by people who have not (and may not) mature past the point of the mindset of a child in a store screaming for THAT PARTICULAR TOY and no other will do. No compromises. It's the mindset of "I really lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 03:26 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? This is what I am trying to say that girl's don't stay trapped in a friendzone like guys do. Perhaps it's because culturally women don't look at men as trophies or things to be conquered or won as reflecting our own self worth. We see them more as...individuals? With a mind and wants of their own that don't have to revolve around desiring us on a romantic level for us to be comfortable being companions. Maybe women's propensity to be less selfish comes into play? Because let's be honest, at the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 03:14 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? I don't know exactly when it shifted from "I really wish he'd want me." to "This is one of my best buds." It was a really gradual change and it wasn't due to any effort on my part. Maybe the difference was that it was a high school crush that dissolved and an actual friendship sprung forth. It started as a crush, and evolved. And yes, I did remain infatuated for a while after, not sure how long. I know it was fully gone by senior year. I'm not one who believes in "true love" or "soul mates", I b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 05:01 AM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? I'm gonna be a bit candid here and say that I was "friendzoned" once when I was in high school. It was clear nothing was to come of my infatuation but it didn't stop the dude from remaining completely awesome and fun to hang around. Eventually, the infatuation part faded and to this day he's still a pretty damn good friend. He's a huge movie buff so occasionally we'll switch back and forth treating each other to a new movie that seems interesting. In hindsight, sort of relieved we never dated, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 02:11 AM
1	Do women judge men's sexual past? If he's clean, I wouldn't really care. But I might be unusual, I think prostitution should be fully legalized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 07:03 PM
1	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" No. It WAS red, and I painted it black...some kind of compulsion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 06:42 PM
2	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" Well, it's a rather nice front door. Just painted it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 06:04 PM
3	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" So, basically, this devolved from a half-assed debate into a way to flex your rage boner at single mothers and divorcees. You tried there for a while, so you get an A for effort. Though I am truly hurt that you don't give a fuck about my front door. That was uncalled for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 03:16 PM
4	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" Aside from pointing out the chip that's very clearly on your shoulder, I'll bite. In the not too distant past and loooong before, it was even MORE shameful for a woman to get a divorce and remarry. The divorcee has ALWAYS been a taboo, as well as having children out of wedlock. Only recently is it becoming something that's seen as okay and the shaming of it is politically incorrect. It is NOW a minority view for a woman who is divorced and remarries another man who will aid in raising her childr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 03:34 AM
4	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" Wait, I thought Red Pill's philosophy is that women do and always have preferred to have the babies of the most RIPPED, dumb, animal-clubbing-and-bringing-back-food men. And then, when they're not breeding with those grunting morons, leaning on the intelligent, sensitive men for other needs. Now you're claiming that it is a trend that has CHANGED? I thought biological impulses never change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 03:17 AM
3	"But the past is the past and that doesn't matter! I'm not like that anymore!" improving the gene pool by passing on smarter, more intelligent, and more gifted children And here I thought those smarter, more intelligent, and more gifted men were the beta bux after women get tired of fucking the dumb alpha dudebros. Hmmm...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 02:59 AM
1	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? That doesn't make sense. Inflation increased steadily for decades, as it was designed to. It only went up when feminism took hold in the late 60's, getting women into the workforce. Where is the correlation? I've read that inflation is caused by NUMEROUS factors, and the only one I can find that somehow in the tiniest of ways MIGHT relate to what you're assuming is that labor unions can drive to price of labor up which will increase price of goods. It is nowhere near the major factor in inflatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/15 04:42 PM
1	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? Alright, let's break this down. No, because this wasn't to the greater benefit of societies. Men working and providing on a single income, while women took care of home and children, was the optimal setup. Requiring a dual-income to have the same purchasing power as 60 years ago isn't what I'd consider better. You're implying that requiring a two income setup in modern times is a result of women working. It is not. Instead, it is the other way around. Inflation caused the need for dual incomes. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/15 08:34 PM
0	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? The problem is with your logic, not your assumption. If it were indeed true that men antisocial, you have a big uphill battle demonstrating that it would be beneficial to change this. Just as an example, making men stay at home not work would be disastrous to every economy on the planet. The end result is negative. Depending on what issue you're looking at. As we all know, women are the largest consumers and more ads are targeted to women than men. Yet, for ages women have been barred from pursu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/15 07:08 PM
2	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? Not trying to "get a rise out of you", quit making assumptions. I'm pointing out that the same tactic can be used to explain the male gender in ways that are detrimental to that gender if they are widely adopted. Say, if men are assumed to be unable to handle their emotions without relying on antisocial behavior or self-medicating, and women are inclined to play off of this weakness, it could be advised that a viable strategy in maintaining a harmonious relationship with a man would be to limit …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/15 06:14 PM
5	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? The difference is the faulty conclusions pulled out of TRPers asses based strictly off of "Men and women have differences in the brain". When you look at the studies, there are no implications that the subtle difference between the male and female brain are contributing factors to the things TRPers mention. Lack of honor? Unconditional love? None of that is mentioned and there is no connection. If anything, if patterns are present for men and women, it is the product of social conditioning. Wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/15 05:56 PM
3	BP, Whats the biggest Red Pill belief you disagree with? And women have breasts. Not all women have breasts, but the vast majority of women have breasts. Physical characteristics. Want to make the jump and say something else about Asians that has nothing to do with strictly physical characteristics?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/15 05:01 PM
0	What preferences are people allowed to have? It's really not. I know thinking that it is is a nice strawman to fight against, but it's simply a call to end shitty behavior aimed at women for having the audacity to be or "look" promiscuous. It's the same manner that leftist liberals are fighting against bigotry and for rights for same sex couples. They're hardly saying "Everyone should be gay!" They just want to end the harm the mindset of "I don't approve! We must stop this!" as far as personal preference causes when it is manifested into …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/15 11:26 PM
2	What preferences are people allowed to have? Or are commenting, as I have above, at how the label in and of itself is used to shame people for no other reason than an apparent distaste of a certain aspect of a person that really doesn't matter one way or another to some and is simply a preference that can either be ignored or an opportunity to pass up. There can be and have been serious consequences historically of slut shaming. Women have been stoned, hung, burned, or cast out of society for those labels that are merely preference. It's a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/15 09:48 PM
1	What preferences are people allowed to have? From your own link, the "slut walk" isn't women celebrating vast amounts of sexual partners, but protesting the words of a police officer that told women not to dress "slutty" to avoid the threat of rape. For your link to be at all relevant, it would have to be a large group of women tallying each others sexual partners and patting each other on the back for larger amounts. So unless you have any other link to post that actually describes a large group of women and not some weird fetish communit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/15 08:50 PM
0	What preferences are people allowed to have? I don't think there's a big group of women collecting sexual partners and bragging about them, or are proud of them. What a ridiculous thing to be proud of. It just is. Slut shaming is the equivalent of running around, sniffing people, and then mocking them or telling them they're undesirable in order to make them take a bath. Now, you can do that, but some people prefer a little musk or don't mind it at all. The majority probably prefers super clean smelling individuals. Seems like the person i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/15 05:33 PM
7	What preferences are people allowed to have? Do you often go out of your way to shame people who are a bit smelly? Or just, ya know...avoid them? Because there's a difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/15 05:07 PM
0	How would redpillers react if there were a sexual/life strategy sub run by women using the same methodology as TRP? Not really, i maybe teenage boys at worst but even teenage boys have some commonsense I read a few days ago a teenage boy literally fucked the mud of the banks of the Colorado River. Didn't come here to argue, but it really can be generalized that men are idiots in the event of a strong erection. It could easily be used as a "valid point" in a TRP-esque sub for women, with many many many anecdotes to support it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/15 04:22 PM
4	Question for all Pills: Jealousy and Sexuality Cheated on once before. Didn't make a damn bit of difference how much he said "She didn't mean anything to me." I didn't go "Oh, okay. Well if it was just your penis, then." Made me physically ill. I vomited when I heard. It briefly increased sexual attraction, by playing off of my insecurities, but everything just dissolved. Granted, it wasn't a great relationship to begin with. He was an asshole. But that was really the boot in my ass to bounce. There was zero amount of begging after that was …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/15 11:23 PM
1	Aren't women just people? I don't try to justify any behaviors or actions on my part. I've done some pretty shitty things and I've done some pretty nice things. Maybe my time on the internet has turned me a bit cynical about the nature of most people. TRP certainly doesn't help in that regard. I dunno, it's just...I feel like more people are willing to embrace their crappier sides to benefit themselves than they are to put themselves at a disadvantage to help others. You see shit like people trampling others at Walmart o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 06:21 AM
2	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Engaging in fisticuffs with the men. And then lesbianing up all the RP women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 12:30 AM
2	Why do you think women disdain low status men? Because people tend to suck at relationships until they've been through a bunch of them and live and learn. Some people are impatient, or have an ideal of what marriage will be like, or relationships in general. Are then not satisfied and keep hopping around. Men and women do this. After each breakup, the still very much naive and inexperienced man or woman will lament "Where are all the decent men/women? All I want is love!" Romantic love is a fleeting chemical in the brain. Actual love and mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 11:57 PM
2	Aren't women just people? Gonna have to agree here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 11:37 PM
7	Aren't women just people? You kidding? Plenty of shitty men manage to bag a relationship. They just need to prey on a weaker person to do so. And vice versa. People...yeah, people can be shitty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 11:36 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? Considering your now just making up your own arguments Id say pretty well. You're the only one whose said anything about dumpster divers. I went to an extreme to emphasize my point. If it's lost on you, and I feel that it is, it's probably pointless to debate further. That was never the argument dear. Really? its just that guys without those prerequisites met dont make you horney and hence dont get sex. Because it sure sounded like you were saying standards contributes to physical arousal which …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 04:41 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? No, this is how i win them, I get you to admit to things under the guise of the argument being something other than what it is. And how did that work out for you? Not so good, huh? The difference between men and women in your argument is to men, her job and her wealth means significantly less than her ability to support him and be physical with him. I'm gonna have to disagree here. I'm not seeing a wealth of men or women jumping in excitement to have sex with that deadbeat behind the dumpster. F…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 04:11 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? As does the man for the woman, unless he's down to bang that junkie chick passed out behind the dumpster at the Dollar Store. Really, is this how you lose debates? "Okay, I'm wrong. But it doesn't matter because people DO have standards, and you can't argue that." lulz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 03:41 PM
1	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? You ascertain that I would be MORE sexually attracted to the guy that "jumped through hoops". That might not be the case. I might be equally sexually attracted to both. The standards don't make the sexual attraction, that is a base line. Standards are just what people have. As well as restraint. I suppose some people don't have restraint, but I would wager most would avoid having sex with a super hot person that was a complete mess no matter how badly they wanted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 07:40 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? And if the girl you're dating and fucking stops doing the things you have set a standards for...say, she quits working and sits all day in a recliner eating cheetos and watching Netflix, I'm willing to bet you're not gonna be too sexually inclined to her anymore either. ETA: Clarifying, sure you might still be physically attracted to her enough to want to have sex with her, but she'll really start looking like less and less of an option to actually stick around with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 09:06 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? What fucking hoops? Are standards now considered "hoops"? I would hope everyone, men or women, have some kind of standards. What "hoops" do women jump through before you decide to have sex with them? Or for you is it a free-for-all, first come first served?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 08:32 PM
4	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? How so? I can be incredibly sexually attracted to a guy who's addicted to opioids. Doesn't mean I'm gonna have sex with him if my personal standards are to date a guy who isn't an addict.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 08:27 PM
3	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? It's a cultural thing. Women are taught to repress sexual urges and men are taught to embrace them. Women who throw off the cultural conditioning to repress sexual urges and fuck when the fuckin's good, are then called sluts. Here I thought we were facing a slutpocalypse. Which is it? Truth : For TRP types, sex NEEDS to be transactional because men need to feel validated. They want to feel like they've earned something. If it's too easy, then he can't get the ego boost he so desperately needs. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 07:53 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? She just said that the guy, no prerequisites as seen yet, made her horny and she wanted to have sex with him. Him meeting these guidelines didn't make her want to have sex with him MORE. It just gave her the go-ahead to give in to her ALREADY PRESENT desire to have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 07:47 PM
3	Has exposure to the Redpillsphere brainwashed you to unjustifiably think less of female sluts? I argue the opposite. The tribe is able to practice and maintain this very strange custom because of its detachment from most of civilization. It doesn't "suck" because of the different morals regarding sex, but because it is detached. With more interference from the outside world, there will come more advances gained but also more corruption of ideals and morals. As it stands, the society thrived on its own with these particularly sets of morals, and thrived well in the areas that RP most preac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/14 06:33 PM
2	Has exposure to the Redpillsphere brainwashed you to unjustifiably think less of female sluts? You asked, I provided an example. And also noted that I just thought it was interesting, the close to non-existence of divorce or rape. The whole concept of "slut" isn't even a thing there. For males or females. Sex isn't tied to shame or status at all. It is a means to an end, procreation and bonding. Nothing more, nothing less. Aside from that, they are becoming corrupted by Western society. Porn is being brought in, and instead of looking at women as worthy of respect, some of the boys are pu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/14 06:19 PM
0	Has exposure to the Redpillsphere brainwashed you to unjustifiably think less of female sluts? Look up some stuff about the Kreung Tribe in Cambodia. Basically, father builds pre-teen to teen daughter a hut in which she will meet many different boys. She may have sex with them or may not, her choice. They are encouraged to try out many different boys until they find just the right one. They just aren't allowed to be seen together in daylight until a final decision is made. Also worthy of noting, divorce and sexual violence is non-existent there. They use protection, but in an event of one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/14 04:12 AM
1	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? Oh, I thought I stated it, but I just said "Women will be all over this". I'm a woman of no pill affiliation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 11:54 PM
2	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? Conversely, I believe the same to be true for women. Even from an RP standpoint, as to what makes women unhaaaapppy. Hypergamy? Lemme upgrade ya. Solipsism? Psh, my man-bot isn't gonna contest that. From a non-RP perspective, you also lose the negatives of a relationship. No dealing with clutter or general slobby behavior. Never having to worry about cheating or jealousy issues. Toilet seat stays down, that's for sure. And he'll always be there where you left him. No midnight boner in the back t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 11:52 PM
2	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? Only time will tell. Until then, I'm keeping my eye out for man-bots. I'm highly intrigued.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 11:38 PM
2	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? Is that the term? I never really got the distinction between having a close friend and having boyfriend/husband. That's just a best friend you have sex with. And choose to only have sex with that person. Never been really sure how the bond is supposed to be stronger than a really close friend. I'm not even entirely sure that romantic love is an actual thing past the infatuation stage. Love, yes, but romantic love seems like a fleeting thing. Most long term couples I know simply are good friends …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 08:52 PM
2	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? Right, that's what I'm saying. Will this dude-bot do the laundry and keep my house clean and be realistic enough to be sexually sufficient? All the rest is just filler, really. If emotional intimacy is what one's after, friends are the way to go if you have a dude-bot at home waiting with a tub of chunky monkey and That 70's Show pulled up on Netflix. But maybe that's just me. I have not much interest in relationships for the ooshy gooshy stuff. I'm hardly sentimental.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 08:13 PM
1	Thoughts on this vid about sex robots? I think women will be all over this. If it is indeed even gonna be marketed to women. There are a lot of sex toys out there for women, though, so there is some hope. With sperm banks and sex robot dudes lookin' like whatever the hell you want them to, programmed to say whatever you want them to, and act exactly as you want them to, I wonder if actual human intimacy would vanish entirely. I'm also not entirely sure that that would be a bad thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 07:28 PM
3	What are your hobbies? How do you most like to spend your time? No pill woman. Knitting, sewing, cooking, reading, MMO's, Minecraft, Photoshop, online debate, non-online debate (often unwanted :P). I would like to learn to speak a few different languages fluently. Total hermit, though. Wouldn't get put to any practical use.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/14 05:42 PM
1	What are your views on this? I'd say if she remembered what happened and you were so out of it that you couldn't even recall the events, then yes. You were in fact raped. People act like this doesn't and can't happen to men, but it does and certainly can. Men can get slipped stuff in their drinks that can give them erections even when shitfaced, or other drugs that make them completely out of it but still able to be used for sex. If they wake up with someone they wouldn't otherwise have had sex with or with no recollection …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/14 04:12 AM
0	What are your views on this? In this particular scenario, the man was sober enough to not only recall all of the events leading up to the rape, but to also mock her for being so completely drunk that she was out of it. And wasn't at all surprised that she didn't remember any of it. If a man is as drunk as the woman in this story was, he would not have been able to do more than feebly try to get an erection and pass out. How many men who are incapacitated are capable of initiating sex from another incapacitated person?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/14 04:09 AM
0	Question for the MEN of PPD only please regarding intoxication, "victimization" and gender/sex Well, there was a viral thing going about (and still does every now and then) that has a list of ways to avoid becoming a victim of a rapist (and they were all wrong), and that shit spread like the plague. You can see the problem here, there isn't a strict guideline you can go by to avoid being raped 100%. And when people say "teach boys not to rape", they aren't saying "teach boys not to violently rape women in alleys with knives to their throats." They're saying "Teach boys that the concept of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/14 03:33 AM
6	Controversial Question: Why do women have a harder time leaving emotionally abusive RP men, and leave at the drop of a hat with non-abusive BP men? Again, great buzzwords and because allegedly you felt a certain way that no one can argue because it's just your alleged feelings you're beyond reproach. I appreciate you giving a real life example of exactly what I just explained. I'm certainly not beyond reproach, as RPW and the few people I reached out to made abundantly clear. I was called a cunt for finally deciding to leave. My friends and family only believed me when I had finally left him. In part, due to him calling me numerous times vi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/14 06:32 PM
9	Controversial Question: Why do women have a harder time leaving emotionally abusive RP men, and leave at the drop of a hat with non-abusive BP men? Yep, that was me. Stuck in a situation with great difficulty of getting out of, I turned to the "Try to be the type of woman who he won't act like a complete pyscho around." Low and behold, though, the more submissive I tried to be, the more aggressively he responded. The dude wasn't the poster boy for Red Pill, he was just a run-of-the-mill sadist, and the tactic of "lie low and shut up" didn't excite him as much, it only pissed him off more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/14 05:33 PM
11	Controversial Question: Why do women have a harder time leaving emotionally abusive RP men, and leave at the drop of a hat with non-abusive BP men? And parents who beat their kids, well...the kids were asking for it. What's the oldest teenager in the house to do? Bummer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/14 04:21 PM
7	Controversial Question: Why do women have a harder time leaving emotionally abusive RP men, and leave at the drop of a hat with non-abusive BP men? Bullshit on this one. As a person who WAS in an abusive relationship, feeling trapped in said relationship by guilt/ promises of change and now obvious manipulation tactics when he turned the water works on and the two children we had together, I reached out to family and friends countless times for help and received a whole lot of "It's probably something the both of you need to work on. You guys should go to couples counseling. Why did he break your stuff? What did you do to make him get that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/14 04:14 PM
1	What is your guy's opinion on this situation? All of it is jumping to conclusions, is my point. It needs to be fleshed out more, otherwise we've got Red Pill clamoring to condemn her and everyone else clamoring to defend her. One thing is for certain, the brother painted her as settling down when it is also entirely possible that she was head over heels in love with the guy and planted seeds in his head that she didn't really care for him. That, to me, is shitty. If he were just stating facts : "She dated these guys before you. Did you know…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/14 06:36 PM
1	What is your guy's opinion on this situation? Well, if I were with someone and ready to be married to them and one of their close relatives came up to me and started telling me that he didn't actually plan to marry me, he's done this with girls before, he backs out last minute and then goes and screws one of his exes and it's a pattern with him, I sure as shit am gonna wonder what the fuck is going on. Now, if he had done that once with a previous girlfriend and there were circumstances that lead to it that were not disclosed by said relati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/14 07:09 PM
4	What is your guy's opinion on this situation? You all want to assume that the sister straight up lied about her past boyfriends, but it is entirely possible that he knew of them and she didn't think it an important detail to say that they happened to be white. Or, if he was aware of it, that the brother put it into a frame of mind that she was purposefully "settling down" with him for support purposes and that she was "only into white guys". None of it confirmed, all purely speculation, all sounding really fucking bad and painting her as a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/14 03:58 AM
2	What is wrong with pointing out the "wall" to men? Well, for one, Caesar not only let the execution of his son in law (who was his enemy and was his right to deal with as he saw fit) slide after becoming Cleopatra's lover, he also risked his own skin for her against an "all hope is lost" situation, where turning her over would have been in his best interest for the sake of his own life. Not to mention all the hot water having her as a mistress got him in. If it were political, it wasn't a wise political move. It gained him a lot of enemies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/14 07:52 PM
0	What is wrong with pointing out the "wall" to men? This is significant because coins have provided excellent records of the faces of many monarchs. It's good enough to assume the appearance of other well known historical figures, but Cleopatra, nahhh dude. The reason she managed to get two of the most powerful figures of Rome was because she was exceptionally beautiful. I choose to believe it regardless of the fact that the only evidence we have of her looks are coins depicting her image from back when she ruled. .....Nyokay, dude. We also have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/14 01:52 PM
4	What is wrong with pointing out the "wall" to men? http://www.heritagedaily.com/2013/10/was-cleopatra-beautiful-the-archaeological-evidence/92015 http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/cleopatrabio/a/cleopatraappear.htm You're welcome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/14 01:36 AM
3	What is wrong with pointing out the "wall" to men? And the fat / ugly guys can get fat / ugly chicks. If I had a nickle for every time a fat guy I'm friends with complained about never getting attention from women while simultaneously turning down plenty of interested fat chicks, I'd be rich. Rich, I tell you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/14 01:31 AM
11	What is wrong with pointing out the "wall" to men? A woman's sexual capital in comparison is entirely almost based on her looks. She could rule an empire and remain unfuckable. I've heard Cleopatra was quite ugly, but it was her charm and power that drew men to her. Hmmm....	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/14 01:26 AM
0	A Summation of TRP and My Opinions on It [BP xpost] I love you. I was looking everywhere for something like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/14 09:01 PM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? It's just that there are sexual dynamics, and they aren't always what we think they are. Men have them and women have them, and they can be different for the different genders. Yeah, again doo doo. Because not so much. Some women want a pretty dude, some women want a dude that has money, some women want a dude that is fat and makes her laugh, some women want a dude that is frail and is artsy and sensitive. I went from celeb crushing on David Spade to a young Jonathan Davis to Jack Black. This is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/14 04:21 PM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Men and women can have very different approaches to mating. It is very important to understand those differences if one is going to be successful in relating to the other gender for purposes of sex and love. Yes, and this is where the feces come in. It is intended to draw in all of the guys who have been hurt in matters relating to women. You've got the TRUTH to give them. They want to know WHY their girlfriend/wife cheated on them. They want to know WHY they get rejected so often. There HAS to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/14 03:01 AM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Holy fuck! That's what you took away from reading all the Red Pill material? It sounds like you tripped on over to a PUA sub. Red Pill thinking extends way beyond quick PUA techniques. And then went straight on to say: No, just sexual strategy. Self-improvement just happens to be part of a winning sexual strategy. You're being willfully obtuse. "It's not about strategies in picking up women! It's about...strategies regarding sexual relations with women!" So, you've read a lot of The Red Pill, bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/14 01:32 AM
0	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Call BS all you want, it is a quick fix. "Use this equation : "Lift, gain confidence, and hone techniques and mentalities that make you appear to be an asshole" and all your woman troubles will solve themselves! AWALT, you can use this on practically any woman and it'll work. Same goes for RPW. "Cater to your husband and put any wants or needs you have in the trash and all will fall into place!" Right, it was set up for discussion involving "self improvement" and "sexual strategy". It just so HA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/14 12:16 AM
0	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? So what you're saying is that your subreddit is overrun by extremists. At what point does the original intent get lost when 90% of the people participating and running it (endorsed contributers and mods) are people who apparently don't even contribute anything truly "Red Pill"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/14 12:08 AM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Yeah, tell me how many women you've fucked again? Because it seems to me that the only thing you're basing it on is your own personal history of being fucked and you're not every woman Exactly how many guys have you let pound away at you with enough lube so as not to be painful?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 09:44 PM
3	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? I get the feeling it's always stormy in your neck of the woods.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 09:37 PM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? I suppose you don't have to be concerned with keeping up with the debate at hand in a debate forum. Whatever floats your dingy, man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 09:35 PM
2	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? But when women do it, it's obviously some carrot and stick manipulation. /s Or perhaps it's different because women don't actually have to do anything other than show up. Of course it's better when the woman is more active but that doesn't make it required. The whole argument at this point is that it's wrong for women to reject sex because it's so easy, they really only have to show up. And for men to reject it, it's somewhat justified because they actually have to DO something. That's where the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 05:28 PM
3	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Because he's using it as a bargaining chip! All he has to do is pop a pill and lay there, participation isn't really required. No excuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 03:41 PM
2	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? I have read a lot of TRP. It's where I go when I'm bored and want to lose faith in humanity little by little. And yes, I used I've read to side bar, I used to subscribe to those ideas not too long ago, was drawn to it because I was in despair and looking for a quick fix. It didn't take long to see how hypocritical and rooted in fiction it was. RPW don't see "too tired, want sleep" or "just not feeling it" as exceptions to the "always say yes" rule. Bringing up specific examples is crazy when all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 03:39 PM
6	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? There are red pillers in this very thread that have admitted that A) Sexual desire is not necessarily needed on the woman's part, she simply has to show up and B) denying sex can be construed as a power play. So what to do when you just don't damn well feel like having sex? You seem to think there is always a way to get someone aroused, but sometimes it's just not the case. Could be hormonal things, fluctuating throughout the month, could be stress, or it could just be that she doesn't want to b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 06:35 AM
3	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? TRP are of the assumption that all women want their boundaries pushed. That's where the AWALT comes in. That's also where the assault comes in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 06:19 AM
1	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Thanks for this. There are civilized human beings in the world. I just have to keep repeating it over and over, I forget sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 06:17 AM
6	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? Seems pretty pathetic that men hinge on getting their dick wet so much that it can even be used as a bargaining chip, honestly. Intimacy is one thing, sex the way you people at TRP describe it, where desire on the woman's part isn't really all that necessary, is another. It implies that really all you people are are slaves to the feeling your wieners give you. Find a damn hobby.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 06:13 AM
8	Question for RPW - Does never saying no to sex ever affect your sex drive or your relationship negatively? He could always just pop a viagra and lay on his back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/14 06:10 AM
16	How many genders are there? Women on average live longer than men, can go longer without food than men (thanks to the extra body cushion), have demonstrated in studies that they have a higher pain tolerance than men, and use fewer natural resources than men due to less body mass. Not to mention, higher social and emotional intelligence and less likely to be risk takers in the wild. More cautious = better chance of survival. Women are also far closer to being able to reproduce asexually than men. We're a step away, men on t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/14 02:49 PM
1	Does the Red Pill drive men into the arms of abusive women? Haha, this is some serious sexist shit, lol! It's also spot on. Please not that I don't actually believe that way. I do think men are more aroused externally than internally, as women are, but I do not believe men are guided by their penises and often fuck women they don't even like. This is what TRP spouts (which is sexist and honestly, kind of humiliating to imply about men). Shitty men will just go around having sex with anything that moves. Decent men will have standards and require a little…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/14 08:15 PM
1	Does the Red Pill drive men into the arms of abusive women? That doesn't work as soft dread at all. (And wasnt intended as dread..I knew nothing about red pill), because my gfs didnt see me as an "alpha around women" but as a "beta around women" when I talked with her friends. Just trying to explain the difference between soft dread and being charming here. I still stand by my use of the word "charming". There's a difference between a charming guy and a guy who holds his girlfriends' friends purses while they try on clothes. Charming is an open display o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/14 02:13 PM
4	Does the Red Pill drive men into the arms of abusive women? Soft dread should not make your girlfriend/wife feel terrible. Think of it more of making her feel "Wow the ladies really like/want him. It's great that he chose me. Then why call that dread at all? Why not just call that "being charming in public"? That doesn't have to be a tactic, being charming is just a good quality to have. Hard dread yes is designed to make your wife feel terrible but it's considered the "thermonuclear option" and as a last resort when everything is about to go down anyway…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/14 06:21 AM
2	Hypocrisy of Action I'm of the opinion that the same type of action is appropriate for both scenarios you mentioned, for either gender. Man or woman cat-calling you? Shame the fuck out of them and leave. Man or woman being abusive in a relationship? By all means, shame the fuck out of them and leave. I would not recommend, say, hanging around for extended periods shaming or stalking a cat caller day in and day out to "teach him or her a lesson". And I would not recommend hanging around in an relationship trying to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/14 05:22 AM
6	Does the Red Pill drive men into the arms of abusive women? The hell are you getting those figures? I got : How to make your wife jealous :15,000,000 How to make your husband jealous : 13,000,000 Intentionally trying to make your significant other jealous is shitty behavior. And apparently a popular tactic for both men and women. I was going to respond with pretty much the same as the person who replied above. But I was going to add an analogy. Doing the dishes versus instilling fear of a breakup or cheating as a means to get sex is akin to a girl in hig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/14 04:52 AM
1	Thought experiment: how would you feel if we had a "nice girl" stereotype? There totally is a stereotypical "nice girl". The exact counter to the "nice guy". It's the chick that says men won't date her because she's not a vapid stupid leggy blond and that men are too stupid to know quality women when they meet them. The ones that think they're a catch and men are drooling zombies blundering about looking for giggly shallow chicks that can't do simple math. Those girls flock to other girls with the same dating issues and they create that echo chamber of "men are stupid …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/14 09:52 PM
2	If feminists want equality, why won't they get even with men when it comes to street harassment? For it to be even, the men would need to feel as though something might happen that they would be unable to fight off that would be both painful and unpleasant. Are you advocating women go around with a gun and a strap on? Because that'd even things up a bit more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/14 09:34 PM
1	Accountability and the Restriction of Choices Ah, but as we all know and as you yourself would probably be the first to point out, women are naturally monkey-branchers. Not much "keeping in check" will do if she finds a better guy than you. And there's always a better guy than you out there, isn't there? Nope, to stay on the safe side and keep from having to pay child support, the most logical choice is to simply keep yourself out of the gene pool. Doing anything else is just hamstering away excuses because you're not haaaappy when you're n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 01:26 PM
1	Accountability and the Restriction of Choices Well, now you're comparing instigating a fight with having a few drinks at a party. If you instigate a fight, you deserve to have your ass handed to you. The whole point of reversing the genders here is to point out that if the same were happening to men, I highly doubt men would be content to be restricted in the freedom of going to parties and drinking. I think they would be indignant at the thought that they can't go somewhere and have a few drinks without the threat of being anally raped hov…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 05:59 AM
2	Accountability and the Restriction of Choices Never been raped, thank goodness. I do wish that you could have seen my point here. You were accusing women of doing nothing but whining about being the biggest victims of rape, and then rode that train of thought to "If men were the ones more often raped, it would stop because we are physically stronger." You have no solutions for women, you just want them to shut up about it. Furthermore, you got pretty defensive and bristled at the idea of women all of a sudden taking to pegging men who get t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 03:28 AM
2	Accountability and the Restriction of Choices What would you suggest? Clearly men will never have a problem with being raped because of their physical superiority...so, what...guns? Just to be sure, you ARE advocating violence against a gender as the solution to rape, right? So, I'm thinking guns, I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 02:14 AM
5	Accountability and the Restriction of Choices If women started anally raping men all the time, violence against women would increase astronomically. I believe this would serve as a deterrent. So, the correct solution is to start increasing violence against men. I'll start getting prepared, then. I never knew it was that easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/14 06:23 PM
11	[Shower thoughts] TRPers, how would you raise your daughters? Please just...don't have children. If I'd grown up with the father you describe your future self as, I would have turned into a fucking hot mess with "Daddy didn't love me" issues. Fuck.	/r/TheRedPill	29/07/14 11:04 PM
2	I just did the hardest job in the world in under three hours! Not physically hard, but mentally and emotionally. You can't listen to a couple kids running around screaming their guts out while playing day in day out for hours on end, cleaning up all manner of bodily fluids on a regular basis, as well as (sort of) thankless tasks like keeping the house in order which (if done well) isn't even noticeable to outside observers or even your SO, without sort of feeling like you're in a groundhogs day situation you can't escape from. But that's life. Life is full…	/r/TheRedPill	13/07/14 01:42 PM
2	I just did the hardest job in the world in under three hours! She's full of shit. I work full time from home with two kiddos under the age of four, no daycare, no babysitters. Husband is gone 90% of the time driving a semi. It's about having a good workflow and schedule. Once you've got one, having more doesn't really make it that much harder. The hardest part about being a mother is knowing that you have zero time to yourself. 1 or 3, the time to yourself is still zero. Just had a new baby on top of already having a toddler who is still unable to speak or…	/r/TheRedPill	13/07/14 01:35 PM
1	Woman walks street hoping to be complimented so she can admonish man for making her feel unsafe. I will note that I live in a reasonably small town. I've never experienced things like being on the subway and getting grinded against or the "accidental" boob grab from a complete stranger. Nothing that is actually predatory, so I'm probably at least a little ignorant to what some women might face day-to-day. On second thought, I once was ground up against at a concert while surrounded by people on all sides. One shifty dude, just lingering behind me too close. It was fucking creepy, yeah. All …	/r/TheRedPill	11/07/14 07:24 PM
4	Woman walks street hoping to be complimented so she can admonish man for making her feel unsafe. Never. I've been told I'm "beautiful", not a cat call, a compliment and I took it as such. The worst thing I can think of that could be considered an authentic "cat call" would have been someone telling me I have legs for miles while walking around wearing a miniskirt. And as the main reason for me wearing that miniskirt was to draw attention to my long legs, I wasn't fussed about it. I took it as a compliment.	/r/TheRedPill	11/07/14 04:40 PM
4	Woman walks street hoping to be complimented so she can admonish man for making her feel unsafe. Clearly she was hoping for a catcall, got a compliment from a not-so desirable looking older man instead, snatched it up anyways because it might be the only slightly relevant interaction she would get. Obviously it was, because she went with it. I wonder how bunched her undies were toting that camera around hoping someone would authentically cat call her so she could record it and go "See?! SEE?!" I'm guessing she cried in front of a mirror for a little while after, if that was the only scenari…	/r/TheRedPill	11/07/14 03:13 PM