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Consumer goods in Marketing, which is heavily female dominated and still want more women. Fully transparent: there’s significant discrimination in Marketing if you aren’t a women and/or POC in the ‘top’ companies. That’s the ugly unfortunate reality that everyone wants to hush hush about. Several colleagues and friends have been laid off for very dubious reasons or skipped over promotions…all fit the ‘white male’ pattern they seem to not want. If anyone wants to expose this and is starting their…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:23 PM
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From my experience women prefer it too but are scared of STDs/Pregnancy. All valid concerns. When you’re both super exclusive there’s enough trust to work that out. I also don’t understand why people get married if they don’t want to have kids. Is it just to lock in the sex to one person exclusively? The whole point of marriage is to protect children from flaky fathers/mothers.
/r/seduction03/05/22 01:55 PM
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Ya it's a little less feeling but I guess it's all relative to how sensitive you are anyway. I'm pretty sensitive (especially if I'm even a bit high) so it doesn't bother me. If anything I last longer with the rubber on. I've only done it twice without rubber (once my first time - impulsive and stupid for both of us...the other she was on the pill and insisted) so I don't have a huge base points of experience to say 100% that's the case. Think of it this way: it's a perk for being in a super LTR…
/r/seduction02/05/22 09:40 PM
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Be sexual. Objectification is not necessarily bad. No really. I think there’s a lot of stigma against PDA or even thinking too sexually of some chick you don’t know yet. That though is power, especially in the real world. Unless you’re some kind of crazy sexual deviant or whatever there’s nothing wrong with objectifying people you’re attracted to…so long as you’re not ONLY objectifying them. At least for me I’m easily interested in people, and if I can’t click with a girl it doesn’t matter how h…
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:34 AM
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Hey dude, send me a PM. I'm down though I don't have a car right now.
/r/seduction12/09/18 09:41 PM
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It’s not that I don’t get what you’re saying, but I’ve wanted to start a family since I was 16. Obviously I was too young then and it would have been stupid, but this desire has been around for a while and only intensified over time. It’s hard to describe to someone who doesn’t really want kids. Every time I see a family doing fun things together I make a big sigh. I see parents teaching their kid something new or doing something silly? Big sigh. It’s a longing for something important to care ab…
/r/seduction01/06/18 09:17 PM
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These are statistics. I’m sure the 2020 census will have a really high drop offs of singles under 40 than ever before. I mostly meet through events and friends. Occasionally online dating but if I relied on that I’d get maybe 2 dates a year. Never said people aren’t getting married and such....I’m only saying that it’s such a goddamn long process that by the time I actually end up with someone I’ll be past 40.
/r/seduction01/06/18 07:50 PM
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https://relevantmagazine.com/slice/a-new-study-shows-how-much-millennials-are-putting-off-settling-down/ There’s a bazillion articles like this... We are settling down less. There is a change in culture.
/r/seduction01/06/18 07:32 PM
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But what if you don’t want to live an awesome life? You don’t enjoy constantly traveling in tight schedules? You want a corporate job with long term growth potential for the sole reason that you have the time to raise a family while still keeping ambition as a goal? ‘An awesome life’ is so subjective. Awesome can be a bungee jumping expert. For me, awesome is charting stars and seeing new galaxies. That could be boring as tears for many people. That’s my biggest issue with dating. Women aren’t i…
/r/seduction01/06/18 07:27 PM
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She doesn't really want anything serious. In other words dating more than once per week is too much. Mostly wants to go out, have fun, give her some adventure, maybe sex, and that's it. The idea of anything 'serious' (or seeing someone often enough that it's more than just hanging out with benefits) is scary I guess.
/r/seduction01/06/18 02:13 PM
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Well I'm not Christian. For some reason my religion is less serious too, and the religious ones really dislike non religious.... I've tried dating religious but my status always got in the way (what region I'm from and branch). Depending on the sect they came from, many religious people are raised to find only ‘learned’ people.” Others are told to marry within their ‘clan’ and outsiders (even within the same group) aren’t the same...we’re a very tribal culture. its a shame our culture is so toxi…
/r/seduction01/06/18 02:02 PM
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Maybe...idk. Wish I knew for certain though. But yeah, definitely approach people! Especially if they seem awkward by themselves in the corner. True there might be some creepers, but it might just be guys like me who are not really the best at game and need to tell themselves constantly to approach. No matter how many times I've approach, I get MASSIVE anxiety about it, especially in crowded places like bars and night clubs. Genetic shyness FTL (my family is filled with shy introverts).
/r/seduction15/05/18 02:01 PM
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"See this is the problem, looks get in the way of knowing someone. " ...but we're talking about approaching, not getting to know someone. Yes, obviously a good first impression will impact how you judge someone. That's just human nature. It's not limited to men. This happens in sports, job interviews, etc. I'm sure women do this in dating, too. Your look creates a perception of your story, and it's a lot harder to break that initial selling (ie: your initial conversation) than setting that expec…
/r/seduction15/05/18 01:52 PM
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“... What if a pretty person wants to be appreciated for something other than looks” I just want to stop you there. This overused argument is the most asinine argument in the world. How can I appreciate someone I don’t know? I would never expect anyone to just outright appreciate me just for existing. You need to develop a relationship with someone in order to expect that. To expect some random person who knows nothing about me to appreciate anything else other than my exterior appearance is bor…
/r/seduction14/05/18 10:52 PM
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I wish women did this. Right now I have no way in knowing if the reason I never really get dates without gaming is because I’m very unattractive or I just don’t approach nearly enough as I should. If I knew women did approach and they just never approach me, then I know I would have to work on myself physically. Maybe even go for cosmetic surgery (even though that’s a major phobia for me). I’m lonely enough that I’d go to any extreme. Instead, I just feel like a schlub who has to beg women to be…
/r/seduction14/05/18 06:03 PM
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I think that's true if you're an extrovert and naturally like talking to people (but are just shy to do so). I honestly never had that desire to talk with strangers. I guess I'm just not that curious about others...? More interested in my own life and fixing issues others have than wasting time in idle conversation. Going out forces someone like me who doesn't like talking to strangers to do so. Otherwise I'm fairly withdrawn and happy to be so.
/r/seduction12/05/18 06:19 PM
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Right.... So people who use Instagram to market their craft also get groupies who like their craft. Makes sense. Doesn’t apply to normies lol
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:52 AM
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Omg you’re essentially marketing yourself and using tactics I would use in work but now for your own brand...? That’s insane. How’s this any easier than just random approaches? This feels so fake. I thought maybe social game meant hitting hot girls up on Facebook or something. You’re essentially creating your own character. A brand. Then marketing and promoting your brand by telling a provocative story. I can’t imagine this working on anyone over the age of 21.
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:33 AM
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Nah even that indirect it hasn’t happen. Then again I can’t hear shit in clubs...
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:30 AM
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That sounds really expensive and time consuming to build up. Might as well be Johnny Football then.
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:09 AM
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What is social media game? That’s completely new to me.... does this have anything to do with that Facebook dating app?
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:06 AM
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Never happened to me or my friends. You speak myths as truths. It’s not low self esteem. It just is. I wish girls would hit on me. Even once I would be ecstatic. Again, there’s a lot of societal pressure on girls not to hit on guys. Plus stupid old school culture that guys are supposed to hit on girls, even though these rules existed before equality was a thing...
/r/seduction12/05/18 05:05 AM
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Yeah I remember looking at love systems website when I was in college and just starting out. It was like $4000 for like 3 hours with some guy I never heard of giving you his secret sauce... complete bullshit. Sad part was people paid that kind of cash. Those things would always sell out...
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:55 AM
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"joining communities and over time becoming well established and a leader and putting on events so when new girls come through you are in an alpha position and impressive" So a frat house?
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:50 AM
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Well the pickup ‘industry’ deserves to be ridiculed a bit. I mean for a while the main guy was wearing feathers and painted his nails. Sure he was a magician and the point was to be somewhat distinctive but I does open for ridicule. Most importantly, there’s an unfortunate amount of deception and overcharging. No reason why a guy coaching someone for an hour should cost thousands of dollars. I’ve made companies millions and I never received anywhere close to that. They used people’s desperation …
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:43 AM
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Thanks! Just joined. Who do I ask (you can send a PM if you want to keep private) to join that network? PS: holy shit they send a lot of intro emails. Needs to cull their spam!
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:10 AM
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Stanford is just a 45 min train trip to NYC really. What forum is it? Doesn’t seem reddit is active on groups anymore, just stories and questions. I remember reading an article that Meetup banned all PUA related groups a few years back, and I searched PUA and Daygame but couldn’t find anything. All the dating Meetups are singles events for 40+ so it’s not labeled that either. Also it doesn’t help that all the old PUA Meetups in the city all met in the same goddamn park (Union Sq) which was fucki…
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:03 AM
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Cool! Is there a community or you just knew each other beforehand?
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:56 AM
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It’s more that drinking a whole bottle of vodka is a quick way to kidney failure. So while getting drunk is fun, the ridiculous level I need to drink to get drunk just isn’t worth it... I still drink beer but mostly for taste. I love tripels.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:47 AM
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True. That’s what I figured. I guess that means less competition when I do ‘sarge’ (it’s such a fun lingo tbh). Though yeah. I really do miss it where support was easily available. Whether through lairs, Meetup, or reddit you could always find a group to do game with. Made it so much more bearable. Guess I’ll just have to entertain myself somehow in between doing this.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:45 AM
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Yeah but that’s strange. Is it because the rejection rate of daygame or because of all the media attention? I always felt daygame was the most natural form and much better suited for introverts (which most of the PUA community is). I really hate clubs. Music sucks and I can’t hear anything. Fair point. I’ll probably delete my account when I need to send my apps in (though I’m not applying M7). Not that I think any school is going to extensively search through reddit to find people who are applyi…
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:35 AM
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I’ve been approached by women who are 10+ years older than me....my age? Never once. I also look a lot older than my age. This isn’t a new thing for me. When I was 16 I used to go to bars and never get carded since bartenders thought I was in my 30s. Even now my friends (who are always older than me by a year) still get carded and I don’t. So I don’t blame women for not hitting on me. I look a lot older than I am. Which is why daygame is literally the only medium that has ever worked for me in a…
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:30 AM
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Wait...what? I guess that’s interesting lol. I would never game if I had a wife. Like that’s the end goal. I have better shit to do than talk to random strangers. If there was a better way out I wouldn’t touch this shit with a 10 foot poll. I have way too many hobbies and work to do to speak with randoms. I’m a natural introvert (intj if u wanna get technical) so the only reason to even do this is for the goal of meeting women and if luck strikes and we click possible spouse. Most importantly, f…
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:05 AM
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Got it. I just missed when you could go on Meetup and join a random group sarging (or whatever it’s called now). It’s more fun doing game with others and gamify it. Doing it alone is boring and lonely. Plus you can do other shit while gaming when hanging out. Game is just a game. A challenge. When out alone it’s the main event. Hard not to think ‘wtf am I doing I should probably do something productive instead of getting rejected’.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:57 AM
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That but also a lot more media attention. I remember just last year when RSD and Roosh were in the news (for all the wrong reasons). PUA is a dirty word, I get that. Too many con men and assholes have ruined a legitimate good movement in getting shy introverted people like me an alternate solution over loneliness. I was wondering if all this media hype and SJW crap has damaged the community as a whole. Also there’s a bunch of fake youtubers doing a lot of bullshit that probably makes kids think …
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:52 AM
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I wish I read this when I used to live in the UWS! I tried to daygame religious girls a while ago but they would always be really closed off, so I never bothered. Both direct and indirect never worked. Then again Israelis are probably a lot more laid back than AJPs so there’s that... Just for shits I’m going to try the structured method on Sunday morning around the UWS if I see a Jewish looking girl. Good excuse to practice on Sunday anyway when moving.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:44 AM
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True. Like I said I haven’t done game in almost 5 years. Was in a relationship and afterwards have been very career focused for a while. Vernacular is probably rusty. I guess I was just wondering if the community has been too exposed over time and thus people don’t approach as much? Since I didn’t see too many threads I thought maybe that was the case.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:26 AM
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I’m guessing from the responses that either PUA is kinda dead or not really realistic... I mean isn’t this the seduction reddit? Let’s be real here: women aren’t going to come up to you even if you’re a super model. You need to come up to them.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:10 AM
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So then what do you do? What’s the purpose of even going? How do you ever meet girls if you don’t approach them, since girls never approach? God, I feel like I’m having deja vu again. Had the same argument in another thread in the general dating forums. If girls hit on guys then guys wouldn’t hit on girls. They don’t cuz society says they’re sluts if they do. So it’s up to us... do I even have to explain this? I feel like I’m talking to a naive child :/
/r/seduction12/05/18 12:48 AM
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idk man. With all these spin classes and such I see lots of nice looking girls everywhere. I feel the majority of women if fit are attractive. Unless you have a grotesque face or terrible body it’s hard for a fit girl to be under a 6. But idk maybe my standards are lower than most?
/r/seduction12/05/18 12:47 AM
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Stamford. There’s these weird parties along the Main Street. They turn the restaurants here into quasi clubs. Lots of early-mid 20s seem to congregate here. Never really know what to do in loud joints. It’s so loud how do you get anyone’s attention?
/r/seduction12/05/18 12:43 AM
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Sure. I’ve actually never done well with night game because I can’t hear shit. There’s parties near where I live but it’s always so loud. How do you approach, especially if you aren’t that great looking (since usually nightgame is more about appearances where daygame it’s completely unexpected for the girl to get hit on)?
/r/seduction12/05/18 12:29 AM
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Hey I’m actually going to New Haven this weekend. If you want we can Meetup. But just a note I’m super unready at this point. I’ll need to plow through some social anxiety by just doing terrible approaches. So I won’t be much of help, at least for this week.
/r/seduction12/05/18 12:19 AM
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Thanks! Any advice about the types of girls in CT (what they're responsive to, types of scenes, b* shield strength, etc)? NYC has a mix of mostly DTF with moderately high shields and homebody types who are dragged by friends (their friends are the big c block). I know New Haven is mostly college. In theory a good place to practice (visiting for their MBA program anyway) but Yale being Ivy makes it a bit different. Are NH college girls (specifically Yale ones) harder to game or is it the same in …
/r/seduction08/05/18 01:35 PM
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Nah, I just got hit on by a woman 15 years older than me late last night partying. Far from the first time this has happened (she ran away when I told her my age lol). I just look a lot older. Facial structure and baldness (and genetic early greying). I used to sneak into bars all the time when I was in High School. Never got carded since they thought I was in my 30s. Now I look late 30s/early 40s
/r/seduction04/05/18 08:31 PM
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...but what if you're never given signs? I look 10+ years older than my age (used to look 2x my age in college) and I always get old chicks hitting on me, but I get bad vibes from girls my age (creep stare). If you look old af (but late 20s) should you just not approach or go for everyone since you'll spend too long thinking about it?
/r/seduction04/05/18 04:39 AM
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Guess we share different experiences then...? idk. Me and my friends have the same issue with women here. They usually want sex after the first date. One of my friends is one of those ‘sex before marriage’ types. Attractive looking and very tall. But when he tells girls this they either back off quick or take it as a challenge to get him laid with them.
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:51 PM
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K so you’re gonna troll. Got it If you actually travelled the US we don’t all think alike. Midwestern vibe and values are VERY different from Northeast (as are Deep South, Texans, Northwest, Southwest). Culture dictates norms. It’s not an out there assumption. Just look at the last election.... People groupthink because they are raised by j certain ideals. That’s why regions have different philosophies than others.
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:40 PM
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Not in my neck of the woods. Where are you from?
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:35 PM
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My experiences, too. The few proper dating events I’ve ever gone to I was the youngest by 8 years. Awkward to say the least... I was wondering if it’s a cultural thing or throughout the US. Most of the girls I’ve gone out with are 26-28. From NYC so we’re obviously a very liberal place when it comes to trends. No one here wants commitment and it’s getting frustrating bothering to wait for others to get the same bug when I’ve had it since graduating college. Guess I was wondering if it’s somethin…
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:33 PM
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There’s always a general group think. A trend where most people goes a specific direction. A generation grows up in similar media, events, ideas, etc. that’s why there’s always a generation that thinks in line of each other rather than the previous. Obviously exceptions too. I get the reason why it’s happening. More women are career oriented. Our laws suck for child birth so there’s the fear of losing your career while having a child. But I just get annoyed that our attitudes as a culture haven’…
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:29 PM
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Nah not really. Look at TV and movies. It’s always the guy who is the scumbag or non committed type. And people take on that shit as if it’s real life.
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:08 PM
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Obviously... It’s just annoying what is projected in society and in actual real life. Seems like the complete opposite for me...
/r/seduction28/04/18 03:04 PM
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