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So men are totally justified when they care about sexual past and body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:59 PM
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Maybe those men are tall and big bone structure and for some women that's an important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:54 PM
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They're not absolute trolls. They're still decent looking guy. You're a hyper shallow elitist woman so any guy who's not a male model is a troll according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:50 PM
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Men need to be incredibly good looking hot tall to get casual sex. As a woman you can be an obese midget granny pile of turd and still get fucked left and right into oblivion with studs. So it's not the same. You can't judge John's for not being able to pull when worse women can get fucked. You don't get to insult men when the playing field is not even.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:48 PM
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Women naturally want rough sex with good looking tall masculine men. They don't feel the urge for that kind of sex with husbands usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:58 AM
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Lie or no lie, why the fuck would a woman have sex with a man she's not attracted to? Can you describe a situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:56 AM
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You need to be a very good looking very tall guy to keep seeing a woman casually. Casual connections are something women (shallow ones) can only tolerate with very good looking men. Every second of a casual connections has to be justified in her mind. It has to be calculated. Is he the hottest tallest biggest motherfucker I can have right now? That's what she thinking all the time in a casual connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:55 AM
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But for getting a sober fuck buddy you need to be a very good looking tall guy. That simply defeats the premise of paid sex which is that most men don't have the good looks and heights women need for casual sex. If all men turned into gorgeous 6'3 sculpted male models with 7.5 inch dicks the world would simply turn into one naked big orgy. The way women view and treat men and sex would change overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:52 AM
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So women don't have casual sex, hookups and booty calls?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:48 AM
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Paying for sex is just casual sex. When you get horny you open Tinder and order the hottest dick in town like ordering pizza. Men aren't so privileged so they have to hire an escort. If you exclude men who pay for sex, men will exclude women who have casual hookups. And you're not ok with the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:47 AM
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How do you women fake feelings for men youre not sexually attracted to for the purpose of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:45 AM
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Maybe he's good looking and tall and she finds him aesthetically appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:44 AM
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Why aren't you celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:41 AM
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I never understood this point of excluding John's from relationship pool. As a woman you know well that you only want casual sex with 10-15 % best looking top tier men. Are you suggesting 80% men are unmarriagable? Should they remain celibate when they're not in a big ass relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:41 AM
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What did those men look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:00 PM
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A mediocre looking woman can have casual sex with male models and hot gym trainers. Does that mean these guys are in her league?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:58 PM
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How your brains are cooked from hooking up with hot chads
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:57 PM
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It's looks first
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:57 PM
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So why is literally every woman in her 20s chasing and fucking handsome men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:56 PM
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What the fuck is the big deal with "immediate attraction"? Like why do you have immediate attraction towards male models only? Why are you so fucking looks elitist? Like why the fuck are you only
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:54 PM
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No they wont. You're a promiscuous woman. You don't fuck mediocre looking short dorky guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:37 PM
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But their sons will turn out to be short and mediocre looking and have no social value, no sex life, no dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:32 PM
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What do you see in night clubs, parties, dating apps, and the hookup scene in general? Tell me about who's hooking up with whom. Who the girls are crushing on, flirting with, hooking up with doing FwB and situationships with, sneaking with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:31 PM
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No, its a genuine question to women who are mediocre in looks and are short. Should they be having sons or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:22 AM
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That's besides the point. My question is for women who aren't conventionally attractive and are short. Should they have sons or not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:19 AM
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Why would men support a system where women are superior to them by default and they have inferior quality of lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:42 AM
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They're lucky they took their father's height. But it's still risky, specifially for even shorter women who are 5,1
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:39 AM
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Because short women produce short sons, foo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:35 AM
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Why can't it be used to minimize suboptimal, restrictive depressing lives of future men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:08 AM
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All the below average looking short dumpy girls in US and EU are crushing on flirting with hooking up and having FwB situationships with tall hot guys. It's a no brainer to any young man in college campus or a major metro area like LA, Bay Area, NYC etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:28 AM
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The gap between in person approach and dating apps is closing. If you're not good looking enough for dating apps, women won't entertain you in clubs bars parties events social circles etc. You are scared to admit dating apps represent true natural female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:26 AM
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Right, so you did experience that but now you're bullshitting to men that it's high risk low reward for women and that's why you can't get it. Who were theen you chose for that purpose when you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:57 AM
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Why are normal dating avenues are so elitist from mens perspective!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:08 AM
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Because if they're having casual sex they're not preaching what they're practicing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:57 AM
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But they're not cutting men out. They're still having casual sex, short term sexual flings, hookups and FwB with hot men. Single women are rarely celibate. They're just avoiding marriage and LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:53 AM
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Don't you think 4B is just a cover up for women's sexual selectiveness and looks elitism? Women are physically attracted to very few men and there are just fewer reasons to compromise on physical desire to be in a long term arrangement. Instead of accepting this reality, women are incessantly demonizing ordinary marriage/monogamy oriented men. All the whole they are having casual sex and hookups with super hot guys regardless of their character, politics and emotional availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:34 AM
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Don't you women only care about the skeleton size and height and facial bones?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:41 AM
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Be happy that you're privileged and advantaged over men. That you don't need to be conventionally good looking. That you can significantly enhance your appeal with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:40 AM
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Don't go to clubs, don't go to bars, parties, don't use dating apps. What avenues do men have left?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:37 AM
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No it doesn't put you in the top 15% Women care about face height and skeleton size
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:36 AM
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You need to be a 5 or a 6 as a man to be dateable. We're not women. A woman who's a 1 can become a 3 or 4 with makeup and clothing. And women are dateable at all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:34 AM
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So who the fuck are you having casual sex, hookups and FwB with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:33 AM
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So women who have casual sex are viable flashlights to men? Why are women having casual sex then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:29 AM
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Both. I'm bitter that women are so advantaged and privileged yet no one accepts this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:28 AM
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I'm defending these men because women with all these faults and then some get laid left and right in the US and Europe? Why do you hate men and hold them to higher standards than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:08 AM
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What do you want men to do when women in West have unreasonable looks and height requirements and the average looking woman doesn't want average looking men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:06 AM
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How long do you need to build that emotional connection with a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:59 AM
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Women hate monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:58 AM
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Why aren't you women using cooperative submissive men to give you orgasms then? Why is it that when it comes to casual sex you women only want the biggest baddest hottest notherfucker?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:56 AM
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Why do men have to make it enjoyable to you? Why can't you just enjoy men's body and sexual organs,?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:54 AM
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Why don't women desire sex with men they marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:44 AM
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Why won't the be nice and kind to you if you have sex with them early without requiring commitment? Committment and effort can come later if they like you enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:43 AM
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Women lie that they cheat for emotional reasons but the guy they cheat with is good looking and good in bed. Women lie a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:39 PM
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Combination of looks, height, introversion mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:37 PM
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Why don't you question women and hold them liable for gaslighting men on such a large scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:34 PM
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I just wish somehow we defeat the dishonesty of women. My biggest wish before I die is to defeat women's false narrative against men that comes from man extreme deep rooted hatred. I cannot explain how much dissonance women's lies have caused me and millions of other men. How much trauma and mental health issues women's lies and hateful narrative against physically unattractive men has caused. Hell with them too man. Hell with them. I wish the worst upon them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:43 PM
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No. When speaking about it they always pretend and fall back to character flaw explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:39 PM
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Oh you idiot,being nice is irrelevant to sexual and romantic attraction. You need to be good looking hot charming enough first When will you women stop bullshitting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:38 PM
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I see women saying that every fucking day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:37 PM
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Lol are you stupid? These girls never had a serious relationship. There not saying they're virgins!! They're still dating guys casually, hooking up, having fligns and situationships with hot guys. Are you so stupid to not realize?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:30 PM
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Obviously. Sex in a relationship is not out of pure desire. It's often a by product of co dependency, emotional bond, and transactional nature of relationships. Why wouldn't I consider casual sex to be more pure form of lust,?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:55 PM
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Why is A fucked up? You can't marry everyone you want to fuck. You must find everyone you want to marry fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:57 PM
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Because only conventionally good looking men can get casual sex. Most men become celibate after divorce until they find their next long term relationship. The ugliest of women can get fucked casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:56 PM
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What are your looks and height stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:30 PM
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Are your mens looks and physical attraction benchmarks higher for casual sex than serious dating? Answer without being consumed by hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:30 PM
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Were your mens looks and hotness benchmarks higher in this phase than serious dating? Answer without feeling hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:29 PM
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She's gonna pick the tall handsome guy who's naturally attractive to her without needing to put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:27 PM
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I read the source. It tells nothing about the average number of first messages sent by men and women. So why don't you mention it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:27 PM
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What humour charm power money talent humour do ugly women need to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:25 PM
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What's the sent first message count per woman and per man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:17 PM
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Ugly women get laid. Ugly men can't unless they pay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:16 PM
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Who tf is asking about marriage, foo? Are they celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:16 PM
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Ugly short ga men can get laid left and right too. Your ego seems to be hurt in being told women don't need to be anything special to get fucked and men just have low standards Are you the breed that thinks all women are beautiful gorgeous sexy etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:23 AM
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Ugly short women are getting laid left and right
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:10 AM
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Women aren't messaging men they don't find PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE on dating apps You need to stop lying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:10 AM
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Ugly fat women get laid left and right. Quit bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:09 AM
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It's sexual selection which is based on natural selection in prehistoric times
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:07 AM
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Nowhere I insinuated it subtracts from a woman's value. Women are more promiscuous than men and can also get into relationships easier than men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:14 AM
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Then why are you saying hookups are a big fucking deal that require women to be insanely choosy and pick the absolute hottest men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:06 AM
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So why can't men become fuckboys after divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:56 AM
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So why can every wife material woman flip a switch and become casual sex girl, but every husband can't become the fuck boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:55 AM
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Average looking women aren't struggling to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:54 AM
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Wealthy men would still want to fuck normal women without paying. They just use escorts because normal women aren't available to fuck them casually without money. Also, most young women can easily become call girls and escorts. Why are you afraid of answering why you consider male escorts (casual sex dudes) so admirable and superior to regular men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:52 AM
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Right, which is why the man you marry has to live with the fact that there were once guys so superior to him that you broke all the rules and fucked them casually spontaneously risking bad reputation and degradation. You clearly think casual fuck buddies are more special than hudbands
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:48 AM
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Then why are more women than men engaging in hookups nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:46 AM
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What's more fucked up? Fucking someone you don't consider marriageable or marrying someone you don't consider (casually) fuckable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:45 AM
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Celibate for how many days?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:44 AM
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They just have fuck buddies and situationships with hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:43 AM
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Ugly girls are getting plenty of action these days
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:43 AM
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Don't see any young woman who hasn't got something going. It's either an on/off fling, an occasional hookup from a dating app, a FwB, a situationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:41 AM
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Then you're not practicing what you preach. You're bullshitting to men that their loneliness epidemic is due to women boycotting men, yet you're still fucking MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:40 AM
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Way more women than men are having casual sex though. How is that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:33 AM
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So your fuck buddies and hookup guys don't show you basic decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:28 AM
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So single men also want to be in your position. Not seeking relationships but still getting laid. Men aren't more desperate than you for relationships. They just can't get laid casually as easily as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:08 AM
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So why do you disagree when men say the hookup material guys are extremely privileged, superior, desirable, admirable in your eyes because you have sex with them despite all the risks and general disinterest in casual sex? Why are you surprised when men consider hookup material to be a way bigger compliment way more validating, and husband material to be invalidating? It's your value system and hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:06 AM
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Most two faced dualistic women in the comments are saying that hookup guys are in a very high league that's different
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:02 AM
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No because as men we would prefer to have sex with normal women for free, and the men who use escorts can't get laid with normal women. Why do you consider male escorts - the fuck boys...the hookup material - so esteemed, special, admirable, superior to the normal men who can only get laid in relationships? I want to understand your value system. Why are male escorts so privileged and superior in your eyes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:01 AM
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Why do you view men as meat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:33 AM
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Then why is it easier for average and below average looking men to get a serious relationship than casual sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:31 AM
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Do you know any guy who's mad at being called "hookup material" ? I know you're too scared to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:29 AM
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But your husband is physically inferior and if you just wanted a fuck buddy he'd be too unattractive for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:25 AM
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Why would a woman want to marry a guy who's not attractive enough to get casual sex from her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:18 AM
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So why do you consider the fuckboy so worthy, privileged, superior enough to SHARE sex with without requiring any effort investment and commitment from him? Why is the husband material so inferior that you can't share sex with him so freely?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:17 AM
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So why can't we become free escorts? Why can't the husband material men choose to become free escorts when they're single and looking to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:15 AM
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What do you look like and how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:14 AM
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Then why does every woman who's wife material can CHOOSE to become hookup material anytime time she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:09 AM
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The wife material is superior to casual sex material because she's hot enough that we're willing to put in the effort and commitment to have sex with her. Whether we think she's a bitch or not is not important. We think she's hotter and warrants the effort. It's like how you women worship the c***s ok hot assholes and jerks while glorifying nice kind men you're not fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:07 AM
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Then why can't the wife material change herself to hookup material? It's just a switch she needs to turn. The husband material can't choose to become hookup material because only super hot men can be hookup material
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:03 AM
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What an incredibly stupid take. The wife material can choose to be hookup material anytime she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:00 AM
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So you mean hookup material is a much bigger compliment and validating than husband material
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:57 AM
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So are you celibate now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:50 AM
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Why aren't they celibate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:48 AM
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Why are these proudly single women not celibate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:46 AM
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If they have lower self esteem why do they consider themselves superior to the vast majority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:45 AM
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Single women aren't celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:44 AM
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So who are the men you're having sex with? Why don't you require money from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:43 AM
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So why aren't you celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:41 AM
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So are you celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:40 AM
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Why aren't these women celibate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:39 AM
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Have you seen how aggressively women chase good looking tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:38 AM
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Are you celibate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:13 AM
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Not in active search but never celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:12 AM
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So single but not celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:12 AM
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So it comes down to the fact that as a woman you can find casual short term connections easily, but men need to be exceptionally good looking to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:12 AM
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The men who have multiple women chasing them are all super good looking, tall, hot, and often emotionally unavailable. Whays wrong with accepting that women prefer a soft harem society?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:08 AM
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Yet they aren't celibate and they are all crushing on someone, hooking up, have a sneaky link, a FwB, situationship, an on/off fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:07 AM
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So we're you celibate before that? You never had crushes, hookups, situationships, short flings?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:05 AM
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Partying is for women and hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:16 PM
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Because the benchmarks for wanting to "just fuck" are higher. You need some attraction to want to spend time with a man and a very high degree of attraction to want him to fuck casually and then go separate ways. Why the hell are you women so counterintuitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:34 PM
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So men need to be hot to get casual sex. Women don't. How is hookup material not a big compliment to men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:30 PM
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I just showed you 100s of women confirming that benchmarks for casual sex are way higher than for marriage/LTR Why don't you believe women? https://preview.redd.it/gqp94eu6d6jf1.png?width=1653&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cf89d4fa0aecdccbfd058505b245a54382ed1a9
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:13 PM
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They are told by women they can only be considered for a long term relationship but not for casual sex because the benchmarks for casual sex are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:06 PM
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Why is it so much harder for most men to be the "recreational use" guy than the long term guy? I only get options to be the long term guy. How can I be the recreational use guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:04 PM
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Most men have a working dong, hands, mouth but still can only get laid in a serious relationship AFTER putting in the hard work, time and emotional investment. What's special about the casual sex guys? What are they better at than guys who only get laid in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:58 AM
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Women can't explain this phenomenon for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:36 AM
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<image> Research shows bigger gap between women's stated preferences and actual preferences than mens. Women, but not men downplay the importance of good looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:34 AM
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Why wouldn't a man want to feel sexually validated and desirable? Why wouldn't a man want to enjoy recreational sex without having to get into a LTR first? Many men don't intend to get married. How can they meet their sexual needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:31 AM
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So how come you have enjoyable short term low effort flings and relationships with some men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:22 AM
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So explain why mediocre / below average looking men can get married but don't get hookups, FwB and sexual flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:21 AM
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But why do women insist in online discussiins that putting a lot of work is the bare minimum a man needs to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:04 AM
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Did you open the f'n link? https://imgur.com/a/womens-casual-partners-are-way-more-physically-attractive-sexually-superior-to-long-term-partners-husbands-latter-are-inferior-arent-attractive-enough-recreational-as-evidenced-from-responses-TViyiCJ
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:02 AM
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The majority of married men were never chosen for hookups, FwB and casual flings
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:56 AM
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No because the 2nd definition is more in line with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:54 AM
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It's ok when women do it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:56 AM
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He means to say you have to be a 9/10 for a 5/10 woman to give up her single life for you. Are you opposed to the idea that in the dating scene right now, the looks, height, physique, personality, lifestyle benchmarks for men are way higher than for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:51 AM
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Maybe men's new mindset is an effect rather than the cause. What do you want men to do when there is such an extreme imbalance in the dating world that favours women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:47 AM
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Yeah, I'm not seeing that "corresponding group" of women in their 20s and 30s. Maybe 40s and 50s who are divorced but even they get way more action than their corresponding male group
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:53 PM
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Because you consider him not good enough for hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:50 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:28 PM
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So what about the guys you just had sex with early on and didn't expect any long term commitment from them? What about that fuck buddy you had or that fling situationship where the dick was good? What about your booty call arrangements? Who are those men? How are they different than the ones who have to put in 10 times the time and effort to initiate relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:01 PM
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Just look at young women and men in their 20s. Every woman has something going on at all times: A situationship with a crush, casually dating men, a Tinder hookup every now and then, and on/off fling, a long distance thing, a fuck buddy arrangement. Like literally every girl has something ongoing. Meanwhile more than 50% of men in their 20s have no positive validating interactions with women. Completely cut off from dating and sex. Why is this so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:58 AM
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Young women are all hooking up with hot guys. There's no variation. I am in a major metro area in US. I see college and young professional crowd. It's all tall, male model aesthetic, broccoli hair lean athletic cookie cutter guys with girls of all shapes sizes and levels of attractiveness. This is why I'm telling you to stop looking at older married couples where you do suddenly start seeing men of different looks and heights, because those men stayed single and celibate throughout their teens a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:27 AM
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So what differentiates men you just hooked up with pretty early and then saw where things go as opposed to men you required to put in way more effort, time, and prove something before fucking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:17 AM
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The average is skewed by men with extremely high number of partners. Most men just get sporadicalky lucky in the life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:13 AM
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The whole premise is about women who do hookup with other men. Why the fuck are you so unwilling to explain what's the difference between the guy you initiate with hookups Vs ones you don't? What are you scared of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:49 AM
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This has been discussed a million times on this subreddit alone. You're a liar. You are dishonest. You are moving goal posts from sexual attraction to marriage in a blink of an eye. I don't give a fuck about boomer married couples. Show me the guys women in their 20s are crushing on, flirting with, hooking up with, having flings with, are fuck buddies and in situationshios with. Who are those guys. Show me You won't. You are scared shitless to talk about them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:36 AM
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Not everyone. It's was still women and good looking men. Although there were more situational hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:29 AM
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He's not asking for genuine advice but want to understand your thoughts process and beliefs around ths issue of men struggling immensely more than women in the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:21 AM
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Women are far less divergent than men in what they are physically attracted to. When will you accept this? There is mountains of evidence that women find a much much smaller number of men physically attractive than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:20 AM
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I only see good looking men at raves though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:18 AM
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You mean they get relationships with their looks matches where they're being settled for because Becky the 4/10 used to fuck Chads, and decided needs a stable, loyal, supportive provider type to treat her like a queen. And that too at 35 after being single and celibate for most of their youth. Just f'n say you hate men and consider them inferior in dating and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:17 AM
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Obese, middle aged, midgets because according to OP all women are beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:13 AM
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Women who are 5s don't want men who are 5s They want 8s and above
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:12 AM
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Hot guys fuck girls in cars. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:11 AM
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The cute guy is like 8/10 in looks. This guy's a 5. Normally this kind of guy can only be considered as a stable loyal husband type and has to pursue marriage oriented women who put him in that rigid box
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:10 AM
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Lol! You're noticing this now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:37 AM
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What does the father and husband lack? Why is he so sexually and physically inferior that youre disgusted at the idea of initiating by hookup? What's the difference b/w him and the guy you initiate with a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:36 AM
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Why do you go on dates with men you're not physically attracted to? Chad doesn't have to lie to fuck you casually. Why do other men need to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:01 AM
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Why the fuck would a woman who hooks up with other men, go on dates with a man she's not physically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:58 AM
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"Because he didn't ask for a hookup" Why do women say yes to some men asking for a hookup but not to others? They are dating them so must be attracted. Wrf is the difference between the guy youre dtf casually Vs the one who has to put in way more effort, time and emotional investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:42 AM
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They are interested in hookups. Your presumption is they did do hookups with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:39 AM
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Sure. Why tf would you date guys you're not physically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:36 AM
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Despite all the mf'n risks (that in reality go out of the window when a guy is really hot and she wants to fuck), if she can fuck other dudes casually, then it means she isn't attracted to me if she wants me to wait and prove something. I understand that you do want a lapdog at some point in life.. a stable, loyal, relatively boring supportive provider type, because you can easily switch between modes of "valuing myself" and chasing hot dick, but why is it hard for you to understand why men hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:34 AM
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Why do you have different looks benchmarks for hookups and relationships? Why do you go on dates with men you don't find attractive enough for hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:26 AM
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No. Don't be moronic. They are complaining that men in the past didn't have to manipulate to get hookups because those men were hot. Why aren't you women either attracted to a man or not? Why do you operate a mf'n hierarchical system of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:24 AM
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Of course there are. OPs question was about women "settling down" with nice guys who aren't good looking/hot enough for hookups and FwB
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:35 AM
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The right place and the right time is a hot guy on a dating app, at your workplace, a friend of a friend in your circle, in your university. Everytime everywhere is the right time and place if the guy is hot. You are framing hookup culture so dishonestly, making it all about the stars aligning or some bs, it's not. It's all about having a hot guy in proximity and things naturally progress to hookups. This hot, 6'3 28 yr old guy with a tattooed arm joined work recently and so far has hooked up wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:30 AM
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No. That's irrelevant. It's all about looks and meeting the physical attraction benchmarks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:49 AM
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Most women aren't interested in casual sex, but most women have casually hooked up with hot guys. Actions speak... Kink, poly communities are insanely hostile and unwelcoming to average looking men and the only way average looking men get any play is by swinging which allows an exchange. The women on Fetlife are extremely elitist in what they want and want Tall, well buil men with huge dicks. I have had a Fetlife profile up for 10 years almost forgot and zero interest from anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:43 AM
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Being nice has never worked. The looks barrier in the hookup world (litmus test for real sexual attraction) for men is crazy high. You cannot even get your foot in the door in the hookup scene if you're facially average and on the shorter side. Only transactional performative long term relationships and marriage is the option for men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:11 AM
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What? Being nice to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:49 PM
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Fat and gross women get casually laid left and right. Average looking nice guys never get casually laid. Sex is always transactional for them. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:48 PM
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9 times out of 10 it won't be the same sexually. This has been discussed and explained at length
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:44 PM
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Why do they choose nice men only after fucking around with Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:42 PM
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We don't want to be nicer because it doesn't create attraction. It's a learned behaviour. Show me average looking nice guys getting casual hookups, short term flings, FwB and booty calls and we'll worship the ground you walk on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:39 PM
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Im as deeply into RP/BP as they come and I want to see average looking nice guys getting chosen for hookups, casual flings, and FwB situations even if that's not me. I will genuinely be happy for them. Now show me where those men are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:37 PM
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No. We are just asking.. Why can't you be attracted to the Beta nice guy provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:32 PM
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You are out of touch with reality. There are no women who want to go 50/50 on dates. Not hot women, not ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:15 PM
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I do that. Their problems center around super hot fuckboys not giving them commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:01 PM
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Having female friends and just socialising with women in circles is quite traumatizing honestly. They completely live in a parallel universe. They all have bustling dating lives and something or the other going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:53 PM
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So you're saying non Chad's should feign relationship interest to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:47 PM
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Women are opting out of dating because not being in a big ass official relationship means little to women. They can have all their needs met while being single. Casually date hot men every now and then, do hookups, have a few hot fuck buddies to meet their needs for sex, intimacy, and companionship. On top some male friends orbiters and simps for attention, validation and one sided courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:45 PM
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Most women themselves say that their requirements for good looks are way higher when they want sex for its own sake Vs meaningful relationships. Most women put men into boxes for a reason Most womens fuck buddies and casual hookups are almost always conventionally good looking and way more attractive than the guys they end up marrying. Most average and below average looking men have to offer bullshit to get laid. They are completrly shut off from the casual sex scene. So tell me, wtf are women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:35 PM
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So I should only look at couples from my grandparents generation to make myself feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:28 PM
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If you take the bullshit out of the equation - offering emotional investment and commitment - Chad is all women are attracted to. Are you now going to lie that women are incapable of wanting sex for its own sake, are all demifuckingsexuals, and not as "vijooal" as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:22 PM
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I have lived on a college campus and seen the guys women hookup with. I can also see the guys who get likes on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:15 PM
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Off dating apps. Do you really think womens looks and age matter in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:59 AM
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It is a widely acknowledged fact: Women are fucking shallow and elitist about looks and will only want you for who you are if you look like a male model. Tell me, why the fuck are average looking men NEVER approached? Oh wait, the motherfuckjng patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:05 AM
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So go for women who are at least 3points below you in looks then. Or be a male model and go for average looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:59 AM
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They are fucking them casually. Why the fuck do they need to go on cute dates with them when the 22 year old strapping youngsd can show up at 11pm to fuck and leave in 45 mins?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:52 AM
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Men who desire variety would readily cheat with women less attractive than their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:33 AM
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Fat middle aged women. Don't see fat middle aged men cheating unless they're paying strippers and hookers. Women, as you know, can get free hot young dick till retirement age. Grannies can fuck 20 year old college dudes. Let that sink in
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:32 AM
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Answer is yes, if she cheats with men that are way more conventionally good looking than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:31 AM
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Answer this: why do women almost always cheat with men way better looking and conventionally hotter than their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:23 AM
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Women want commitment from men who seek hookups The biggest whine of women using dating apps is running into men who just want to fuck. Yet men who explicitly say and convey they are marriage seeking get no matches because they don't exude fuckboy energy. Go to Hinge subreddi. Look at the commitment seeking men wondering why they're not getting a single match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:21 AM
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Lol, women just get away with cheating more easily. It takes zero effort for women to cheat discreetly. It takes moving worlds for a man to cheat and so getting caught becomes easy. Most men chest for sexual variety. Not because they consider their wives inadequate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:18 AM
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It seems you are scared to say this more openly: Women marry men they're not sexually enthusiastic about (because they are extremely shallow and there aren't enough male model Chad's for every mediocre woman to marry), settle for normies, and end up feeling unfulfilled and craving hot dick. Try being more honest about this. The cat is out of the bag. No need to peddle those myths anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:53 AM
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Women can get hot young dick till retirement age. Not sure wth are you talking about. Womens looks don't matter much anymore in casual dating, flings, short term relationships, hookups, and FwB
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:49 AM
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Do a survey today asking 1 MILLION women to rank the qualities that make men desirable. LOOKS (face, height, body) will rank at number 6 BULLSHIT - kindness, empathy, loyalty, humor, responsible - will rank between 1 to 5 We are dealing with a gender that are pathological liars. And you still ask why we have these "pills"? Gfys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:41 AM
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Only in first world countries. In third world the sex can be frequent, but the woman is just doing it for his sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:35 AM
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There we go. Another woman who staunchly believes the hierarchy of physical attractiveness only applies to men's looks but not women. That there is no man above a woman's league and every woman can have a gorgeous male model. Your bs can be disparaged by 3 cross questions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:32 AM
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A bad relationship to a young woman is a relationship with non Chad non male model. Why do you falsely focus vague nonsense? Be honest it's about looks and every girl wants a male model
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:28 AM
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Women do not believe in the concept of "Equals" or "Compatible matches" as previous generations did. Every woman today believes that there is no man above her 'league'. I know the belief is stupid and can be debunked by 3 cross questions, but they refuse to budge. You will only get vitriol from women if you suggest there is a hierarchy of attractiveness that applies to women also. In womens mind the hierarchy of attractiveness only applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:25 AM
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How is that possible? Average looking men are so inquisitive and walk on egg shells, desperately trying to build some connection with women as they're not afforded physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:04 AM
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The reasons revolve around looks and physical attraction. Some women are honest about it, most still aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:02 AM
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It's more about women's priorities. Most average leooking women today prefer being Chad's cum dumpster/, fuck buddy than an average looking mans steady gf. Why can't you women be openly honest about it,?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:04 AM
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How do unattractive women get laid then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:00 AM
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How do below average, obese, broke women with zero personality and life get laid then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:58 AM
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Because you are only selecting super hot guys who are most likely above your relationship league and have 50 other prettier girls they can seriously date. The average /alright looking guys will ask you questions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:56 AM
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They do want to date, just not one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:08 AM
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They can go on a date daily. What limitations does a woman face in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:33 AM
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So wtf is this guy going on about? It's almost like their idea of reality is based on movie scenes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:32 AM
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I have only had women respond with anger, hate or completely disengage at the suggestion that a woman might be chasing men above her league on this sub. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:26 AM
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Ok bruv. You win at life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:16 AM
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Let me give you an example of what life is for a man: If you're not a conventionally good looking, hot, genetically blessed guy you cannot live a full life. Your life will be very restricted. You cannot experience being desired, you cannot have an active dating life casually dating people, you cannot do hookups, ONS, have roster of FWB, consistently do short term flings, situationships, be part of kink poly circles and be equally valued as a barely average looking woman. You cannot use dating ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:13 AM
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Way above average for men, for women 2 dates per week is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:54 AM
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So you believe leagues exist but they don't apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:52 AM
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You think women drinking alcohol don't want good looking men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:48 AM
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How'd you describe yourself looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:46 AM
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And what happens when you go to pubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:45 AM
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How'd you describe yourself looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:41 AM
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How'd you describe yourself looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:40 AM
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I created a Tinder profile of an obese, middle aged, short, fscially unappealing woman and got 1000+ likes and 100s of offers to fuck in a week. I made another profile of an fat, below average looking man and got zero likes. How's that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:38 AM
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Not replaceable for men who get 3 options per life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:31 AM
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Whats his underlying face structure like? Women care less about controllable things (skin quality, acne, scars, fitness) and way more about uncontrollable aspects (jawline, eyes, skull shape, lips, height, bone structure)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:28 AM
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Jokes apart, every woman has countless options to date from. For them to fixate on one is non sensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:59 AM
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Then get another boyfriend who will marry you. It's not like you get 1 option every 10 years. Also, why do you want to marry at all? Aren't women walking away from marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:24 AM
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Obese women are not shamed from wanting tall lean fit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:33 AM
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Not really. Pretty much every woman in college and white collar jobs who's single is into hook ups
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:14 AM
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I don't think women care at this point. They have dating apps and can just reach out to hot/gorgeous men they want to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:37 AM
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According to the women of this sub, you should only look at boomer married couples. Everything else is unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:51 AM
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You meant "This is true for younger women" Don't be scared to say young women are way more shallow than young men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:50 AM
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Value as a human being or value as a romantic/sexual partner in dating world?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:25 AM
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Why? Is that a self imposed limitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:20 AM
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So you won't be biased like the women in the comments aggressively defending their tendency to overrate women and underrate men because "girl power"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:20 AM
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The podcast topic of discussion is looks and dating standards. Why is it hard to be logical and not be a snarky child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:06 AM
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So then you're aware that for dating you prefer men who are in a better situation than yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:15 PM
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But you won't be objective with a random woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:14 PM
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What can you expect from women sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:16 AM
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I agree men have very low standards for casual sex. Why do you get offended when it's pointed out many women are beneficiaries of said low standards? Example: hen horny, even a gorgeous 6'3 college athlete would call up a barely average short chubby girl nobody knows for a one nighter. Have you not lived on a college campus?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:14 AM
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People need relationships to meet the needs for sex, intimacy, companionship, validition etc . It's incredibly easy for any woman to casually date, hookup, have flings and Fwb with multiple men which means no pressure/need to enter into a big formal exclusive relationship with one man. Most men are still desperate for a big formal exclusive relationship because that's the only way they can meet the needs I mentioned above. As you know casual dating, flings, hook ups, having fuck buddies etc are …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:11 AM
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It's laughable that there are women still asking this question. Like how out of touch with your surroundings do you have to be. Make 2 profiles on Tinder. 1. Of an obese, short, below average facially woman in her 30s. Write a generic bio. Swipe on 1000 men. After a week she will have 100s of matches and offers to fuck. Make another profile of an obese man with an average face and height. Let's give him a slightly better bio. Swipe on 1000 women. After a week he will have zero matches. 100s of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:03 AM
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Try replying without qualifying the sentence each time with the "no one owes you attention or validation" bullshit. Women don't prefer to be single. Way more young men than women on surveys consistently show they're single. Moreover, women keep casually dating, hooking up, doing Fwb, situationships, etc. In other words they still keep outlets for sex, intimacy, validation etc open despite being "single" You don't swipe on womens profiles. You don't get to see what we see. There is a sea of ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:50 AM
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I have tried Grindr and can confirm the response was overwhelming. You're essentially saying that womens so called higher desirability is a function of straight men's horniness? Ordinary looking gay men feel plenty desired and sexualized in their community and scratch their heads about heterosexusl sexual market Secondly, you say being wanted for casual sex is meaningless. Are you suggesting that women who only get sexual interest from men, who are fed up of fuck boys, being pumped and dumped ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:59 AM
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You're being dishonest here. We are first and foremost attracted to looks and women themselves claim they find a much larger percentage of male population as physically unattractive or ugly. Secondly, on dating apps, we swipe right or left based on 3 pictures. There is no way to tell if the person behind the profile is bitter, insecure, etc. Why do men's profiles get such little attention means their looks don't appeal to women. Thirdly, women with insecurities and low self esteem get laid left …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:52 AM
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We are dimorphic. A muscular woman is as undesirable as a scrawny petite man to women. Overweight and even obese women get laid left and right. Overweight men are considered repulsive by women unless they bring "personality," Bald and hairy, yes women are judged more harshly there. Men have height to worry about that women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:46 AM
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Im below average visually and get 0 matches on Tinder. I can join Grindr and get 100 offers to fuck every weem from gay and bisexual men The common denominator here is men's horniness and tendency to sexualise bodies that is generally lacking in women. Taking that as a proxy for inherent desirability is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:42 AM
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And why do you think that's the case? Is it because all women are inherently more beautiful and aesthetic or because men are way more horny and have low standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:19 AM
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It's not your problem, but your viewpoint completely overlooks the gender disparity and the greater pressure on men to be conventionally good looking. How are women who aren't conventionally attractive, have no charisma, and have low self esteem and insecurities about their looks and bodies able to get laid left and right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:17 AM
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Im not saying it's bad and I get men's tendency to call it bad because they can't participate in it. I'm saying that being reduced to our looks, the hierarchy of physical attractiveness, and leagues are a constant reality for men who intend to participate in hookups. Majority of men don't have the good looks and bodies women demand for casual sex. If you mean to say men's beauty requirements of women for casual sex are forgiving enough that most women don't feel subject to leagues and heirachies…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:08 AM
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Yes, girls in their 20s aren't hooking up with men below them in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:00 AM
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Do you ever consider men above your league looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:58 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:58 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:57 AM
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Ok. So why do men need to look like male models to participate in the said hookup and 'pump n dump' culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:55 AM
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Look at the comments from grown ass women here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:53 AM
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Quick question, when you called yourself a 10, did you also tell yourself that you deserve a man who's genuinely a 10 in looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:53 AM
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So you haven't heard of the Blackpill that accepts that men face immensely greater pressure to be conventionally good looking in order to be dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:51 AM
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Why are you contradicting yourself? If women face this immense pressure to be impossibly good looking, how are average and below average looking killing it in the dating world while men who aren't good looking are worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:48 AM
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Do you consider men inferior to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:46 AM
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Men's value in dating world is determined by women. Why is that ok but not the other is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:45 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:44 AM
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Would you consider a man in the exact same situation as you as inferior to you,?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:44 AM
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So you never had an idea of where you stood in heirarchy if attractiveness and what kind of guys you can get?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:42 AM
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You are looking at boomer married couples than. Try looking at who girls in their 20s are hooking up with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:39 AM
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How is it is Vs them when the men's movement is all about judging themselves too harshly? I'm not advocating for that approach either. The topic is about women's tendency to be bigoted towards men and judging them incredibly more harshly than they would women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:36 AM
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That's funny. I see this bigoted tendency of women wherein a couple would be perfectly compatible looks wise, but they will insist she's way outta his league. Why do you feel so hateful that we just want men and women to be judged using same benchmarks of conventional beauty?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:34 AM
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That's funny. I see this bigoted tendency of women wherein a couple would be perfectly compatible looks wise, but they will insist she's way outta his league. Why do you feel so hateful that we just want men and women to be judged using same benchmarks of conventional beauty?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:33 AM
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Judging yourself or your friends favourably than random people is a different thing. Why do women make this a men Vs women thing almost like a childish clique! - "Girl, men ain't shit. Every girl is a gorgeous goddess and deserves a male model" Grown women defending this cultural movement so aggressively here seems sinister
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:27 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:23 AM
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Why are you so defensive and unreasonable about this? Why can't you judge men and women's looks using the same benchmark,?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:22 AM
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There's a video on YouTube a guy interviews girls on Omegle to rate images of girls and guys. The guys are male models, the girls are obese and facially alright. There was almost a pathological adverserial manner in which girls harshly out down men's looks but called the girls gorgeous, sexy, goddesses. I see this as a significant cultural movement whereby women want to be considered superior to men by default. Naturally it will have impacts on all interpersonal relationships between men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:19 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:12 AM
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What if a random man asks for your opinion? How will your mindset differ when giving your opinion on his looks and body?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:11 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. You show images to conventionally good looking, tall, fit men to a group of GenZ women and tell them to rate them and most of them would…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:10 AM
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You never consider men not uoto your caliber in looks, personality, and lifestyle!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:07 AM
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So why do women feel they are inherently superior to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:06 AM
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What's the rationale behind judging men's looks, bodies, and achievements way more harshly than women's? This isn't about you complimenting or gassing up your girl-friends Vs men's tendency to give harsh feedback to their friends. The question is about women applying entirely different benchmark systems to random men and women's looks, bodies, and achievements. We are not stupid to not notice this cultural movement to put women above men...to prove women are superior, and men don't and cannot me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:04 AM
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Why do they need to be inherentky rude to random men? What's the rationale behind judging mens looks, bodies, scheivements way more harshly and unfavorably than random womens?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:42 AM
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Have you bothered to read womens comments on this post and seen how bigoted they are on this issue? They are hell bent on their stance that women are superior and their looks,, achievements, bodies, and personalities ought to be judged way more favourably than men's. Please tell me how this is not a deliberate attempt to spark more hatred between the genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:41 AM
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The wife's ex fuck buddies would tower over him in looks and masculinity. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:56 PM
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Do you think he's below average in looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:53 PM
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How is the sex life! Are you having the best sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:52 PM
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Is he below average looking,?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:51 PM
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Howd you rate yourself on looks? He's an average looking dude. Not short, Not ugly, not unfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:46 PM
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He's not good looking enough. You can be honest about the looks part
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:41 PM
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So guy1 is superior then, as he stands out among many and is able to appeal to bored and horny women. Also, it seems every woman these days can be 'horny' if the guy is hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:07 AM
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So why is it hard to appeal to bored and horny women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:01 AM
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Wow your standards begin at 8/10 ! May I ask How'd you describe/rate yourself looks wise? I hope you're at least an 8 to have such high handedness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:00 AM
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So men are correct in their view that Guy1 is higher value and more validating to be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:56 PM
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What are those reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:51 PM
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Then why can't guy 2 be guy2 if he wanted,?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:30 PM
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I'm asking why is it hard to be an embarrassment and be FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:31 PM
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Why are women downvoting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:32 AM
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What did your hookups and FWB contribute to your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:30 AM
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What about the women here who claim attraction can be built up over time via familiarity? They answer this in response to men's lament that theyre not chosen for hookups. Women tell them that they care for, admire, and desire the husband material lot more than the hookup material
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:27 AM
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Why do younger men seek milfs for casual sex then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:27 AM
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Men would still eat it because it's better than nothing. Why don't women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:25 AM
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Why is that linked to sex? I just don't understand the mindset. If a woman is not doing her chores I would be pissed, but if I want sex I want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:24 AM
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Why is it almost always from the woman's side?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:22 AM
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What about the women here who claim attraction can be built up over time via familiarity? They answer this in response to men's lament that theyre not chosen for hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:22 AM
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Is it because he's not hot enough to flaunt his options and you take him seriously? Or is he faking his options? From what Ive seen women have a lot of respect and admiration for men who have options and make it known
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:20 AM
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What did the guys you hooked up and had FWB with contributed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:18 AM
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Looks wise how does your husband compare to your adventurous casual flings?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:11 AM
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Why aren't women attracted to their lookmatch? How would everyone it even a majority pair up if women don't date their looksmatches?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:08 AM
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So only hot guys should have relationships and get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:05 AM
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You're a woman. You don't need a big relationship to have regular sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:04 AM
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Hookup and then get serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:01 AM
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You are just proving my point. When a guy is really hot and true physical desire is there, sex ceases to become a conditional thing. It becomes something she wants equally rather than something she only does when everything else is working perfectly in the relationship. I've seen women in relationships with hot men, who are broke, not emotionally intelligent, irresponsible, etc just because they are handsome and the dick is good. They may eventually leave them, but sex never goes away until they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:49 AM
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Why do so many women in the hookup phase reject men because they are husband material but not hookup material?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:20 AM
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What do you think about the comments from some of the women here who are saying it is possible and very common for bf material to not make the cut for hookups ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:58 AM
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No I don't understand true rate me and got banned already for over rating people. But I do rate men and women equally which doesn't go down well with a lot of women. The new feminist mantra is every woman is beautiful, gorgeous, goddess while the vast majority of men are 'meh'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:55 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. Just for further context How'd you rate yourself looks wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:14 AM
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And for further context, How'd you rate yourself in terms of conventional standards of attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:48 AM
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So be honest that the first guy you did let penetrate you immediately is superior, more attractive, desirable, lust worthy, exciting than the second. His rank in the hierarchy of looks, masculinity is higher than the second. That you had more admiration and desire for him. That you wish guy2 was as hot. That you wish guy1 was available to you for something meangingful. Why are you telling these 'copes' ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:46 AM
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So why have sex with him to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:07 AM
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The ones who never had casual sex and hookups to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:59 AM
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Do they have to meet a higher standard for physical attractiveness than the Mains?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:56 AM
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Right, but you still think that's an unreasonable standard of men to expect consistency from women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:54 AM
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But even non traditional, liberal women say their requirements for good looks and hotness are significantly higher for hook ups and FWB than for long term relationships. Example: A woman who is barely average in looks has casual sex exclusively with hot guys who are 8s and 9s, but marries a 5/10
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:53 AM
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Their value is thus lower than category 1 men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:51 AM
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I've lived on college campuses and the most obvious reality of the hookup scene was that while girls of all shapes, sizes, and levels of attractiveness were welcome in the scene, it was strictly exclusive, elitist for guys. Only the hottest, tallest, most popular guys were welcome in that scene. Below average looking, fat, short girls with mundane personalities who no one knew about were hooking up with hottest guys under the radar. Girls of all shapes and sizes had tall handsome FWB visit them …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:49 AM
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Didn't understand your last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:40 AM
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Again, if women don't have meaningless sex with men they don't like nor respect, why is it so hard for most men to be that guy, but becoming husband is easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:35 AM
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Look at the answers again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:27 AM
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Its always nice to hear a woman who's standards for physical attractiveness for casual sex and long term relationships are consistent. Too many women here in the comments appear so inconsistent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:26 AM
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Then why the significantly higher requirement for the man to be good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:24 AM
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This might not go down well with you, but it's more about consistency than fucking me immediately. If she's fucking other men immediately clearly she has the ability and making me wait means I'm not the right person for her. Why do you disagree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:23 AM
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In retrospect and currently, would you say that your requirements for good looks and hotness are significantly higher for hook ups and FWB than for long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:20 AM
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Can a guy who's bf material to you, not be hot enough for casual hook up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:19 AM
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Most women say their requirements for good looks are significantly higher for casual sex than for long term relationships. Not sure why you pretend to be surprised at men thinking it's an honor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:18 AM
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Are your requirements for good looks different when you're dating for long term or are they consistent with your casual sex requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:16 AM
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Women say their requirements for mens good looks are way higher for hook ups than for serious relationships. Is it the same for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:15 AM
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Their motivations may or may not be same but their standards are very different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:14 AM
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Why are you being so dishonest about this? Average and below average looking women have casual sex and hookups with hot guys. Men have lower standards for casual sex which allows them to get with hot guys easily. They end up marrying their looks matches. Average and below average looking men rarely get casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:12 AM
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You seem very out of touch with the hookups scene because, attractive women might be having casual sex with their equals, average and below average women absolutely don't do it with theirs. Average and below average looking women almost exclusively have casual sex with hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:11 AM
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Women keep saying here that their requirements for physical attraction, men's good looks and hotness are significantly higher for casual sex and hookups than for long term relationships. As a consequence most men are able to get interest in long term dating game but are disqualified from hookups. Why wouldn't they see it as more validating when it really is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:07 AM
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Do you have specific requirements for FWB and hookups that wouldn't apply to long term partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:01 AM
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Most women in this subreddit routinely claim that for hookups their requirements for good looks and physical attraction is way higher than for relationships. Most men, consequently, have been able to have relationships bit not hookups. This makes "what seals the deal" a perfectly reasonable question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:00 AM
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By deeper issues do you mean need for validation from very attractive men? In retrospect would you say that the guys you hooked up with were more conventionally hot than your long term partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:57 AM
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Would you say your standards for men's looks are way higher for hook ups than for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:55 AM
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Do you think your physical standards for hook ups higher than the guys you dated long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:53 AM
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Yes. Look at their FWB and hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:48 AM
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Then don't take risks and only have sex with men who are willing to invest in you emotionally and for long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:43 AM
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The OP is about long term relationships with men who aren't hot/gorgeous enough for casual sex. Majority of women are with such men and these men are compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:39 AM
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They aren't more physically attractive/superior to the men they end up marrying?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:37 AM
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Men would have had "fun" with the wife material too. It has nothing to do with the genetic inferiority of the wife material woman. Why is it not true for women? Why are husband materials often genetically inferior for you to have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:35 AM
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So why is it so hard to be an FWB for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:33 AM
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They are complaining about not being guy1. Being guy 1 will solve sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:31 AM
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The men chosen for casual sex do represent the highest level of physical attraction. Why are majority of women married and in long term relationships with men they wouldn't consider hot/gorgeous enough for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:29 AM
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You value relationships with men you lust for. The rest are compromises. At least be honest about that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:26 AM
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The value from sex is just the physical act of sex. Why do you need other forms of value for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:24 AM
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Why can't she value guy 2 for looks too? Relationship worthiness is a subset of sexual worthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:21 AM
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The consistency is admirable. Most women inclusing the ones commenting here are saying they will consider settling down with guys theyd despite/ consider inferior for sex alone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:20 AM
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Is that how you rationalize it so you keep having casual sex with super hot men while convince less attractive men that making effort is ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:17 AM
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They surely do but do your casual sex options reflect your long term relationship options? . An average looking woman can have casual sex with male models. Can she marry them too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:15 AM
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Do your casual sex options reflect your long term relationship options? . An average looking woman can have casual sex with male models. Can she marry them too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:15 AM
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Women will not be happy with the long term guy if he is not hot enough for hookup/FWB. They will silently resent his looks and the sex will not be as good. The sex will also be low priority to her. The millions of dead bed rooms are exactly the result of women committing to men who are not their true physical type they hook up with. Moreover, the relationship dynamics will also be imbalanced. As many have said before, if the attraction isn't there from the begining, it's not worth convincing a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:12 AM
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Women will not be happy with the long term guy if he is not hot enough for hookup/FWB. They will silently resent his looks and the sex will not be as good. The sex will also be low priority to her. The millions of dead bed rooms are exactly the result of women committing to men who are not their true physical type they hook up with. Moreover, the relationship dynamics will also be imbalanced. As many have said before, if the attraction isn't there from the begining, it's not worth convincing a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:02 AM
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Exactly. The anger among red pill followers is because of cognitive dissonance and gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:13 AM
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