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Your goal on text isn’t to entertain her as much as to be like a rock. When I text my guy friend who uses periods at the end of every text it’s not exciting, but he feels very sure of himself. Imagine James Bond texting. Disclaimer though that this is only one way to go. You can go the emoji way and some girls will eat it up.
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:19 PM
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If you really care, move close to a city centre and block out 3 months to cold approach every day for 2 hours. There’s nothing like practice intensity to make you comfortable with approach anxiety and get better.
/r/seduction29/06/22 09:26 PM
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Think old school movie protagonist. The ultimate goal (at least for me) is to say less and less in my seductions.
/r/seduction28/06/22 06:52 AM
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Evolution isn’t wrong or right. Broken or correct. It simply is. It’s like saying gravity is broken because certain things don’t go up.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:47 PM
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Met her in nyc and went on a spur of the moment date before I had to leave. Wasn’t any way to continue.
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:25 AM
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Watch your wing approach. Does he attract much attention? Then think about how that translates to you.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:36 PM
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I like the comment that says “stay boring”. I agree with a slight twist - be like a rock to her. Listen to her hopes and aspirations. Walk with her through her past trauma. Make her feel understood. Allow her to completely open up to you and calmly help her reflect on how she wants to live her life. Through all of this, think 0 about yourself. You’re basically a therapist, a 3rd party, etc. I once met a girl (who indeed was very cute) who made me feel truly understood. When we went out for the f…
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:02 PM
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Ice cream in walking distance from my apartment is the go to. I usually pull to the pool at my apt in about 40min from start of date, hang out for 15min, then go up to my place. What about escalating while you’re out? Do you try to have some playful touch or tension going on at the first location you meet or at the second location? Not sure if you go straight from first venue back home or if you have someplace in the middle. Edit: also can you tell me about your escalation? More gradual ladder? …
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:35 AM
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In the last 7 girls I’ve gone on a date with, 4 came back to my place. 1 I drove over to her, so poor logistics. I drove her up to a private viewpoint after din as pull location. 1 we just got lunch and I did not intend to pull 1 I brought her to the pool in my apartment complex, but judged not enough tension to go home I only closed 1 (it was one of the ones I pulled home). So pretty poor. Also my bad on my other comment that was like “his way to date is a way to not fuck up not succeed.” I mea…
/r/seduction24/06/22 01:04 AM
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It’s basically a formula to not fuck up your base attractiveness rather than succeed
/r/seduction23/06/22 02:20 PM
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Hey there. I’ve done somewhere in the range or 500-1000 approaches and been on a lot of dates, solid amount of lays. Generally agree 100% (besides personal style things). Would love a write up on how you run dates. If you don’t got time for that, I’d like to ask for advice on a personal sticking point around sexual tension and physical escalation. I’ve trained myself to always pull back to my place. In my past 5ish dates I’ve always asked and brought the girl home. But my physical escalation and…
/r/seduction23/06/22 02:18 PM
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Where this library at 👀
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:03 PM
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Have done it a bunch of times. The not helpful but helpful answer is you should just try it and see that nothing happens. Be a bit quieter and more chill.
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:06 PM
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I think it's just expected for anyone that being the initiator is difficult and somewhat low probability. To give an example, I have some level of attraction for maybe a third of women around me, and ones I'd actually date would maybe be another third. So that's roughly ten percent. I do a fair bit of cold approach, and that's roughly the percentage (probably lower really) I see as the initiator myself. Men are a bit different than women in that they'll give up sex more easily, but a relationshi…
/r/seduction08/06/22 04:36 AM
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Fast: 1-date seduction to sex. Just lead and only project value as lover (not bf). I have done this inadvertently in a same day daygame lay (she didn’t tell me). Much more likely if she already wants to be stolen, but of course anything is possible if your game is tight enough. I recommend this. Slow: befriend her while flirting under the radar constantly. Plausible deniability is your friend. I really don’t recommend this if your sole purpose is getting a girl. Too long and too dependent on you…
/r/seduction04/06/22 05:55 AM
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You should ask them out at the end of cold approach. And you should text them to setup plans now. Unless you’re good at maintaining it over text (I’m not). Cold approach feelings have a short half-life.
/r/seduction30/05/22 04:52 PM
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T-shirt, jeans, and sneakers that fit you. Anything beyond that is an incremental improvement.
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:59 PM
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Anything but the movies
/r/seduction21/05/22 10:20 PM
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Yeah. One way to look at game is you’re creating the right environment to build your attraction for her. You create the opportunity to build a connection and for her to show you the qualities that you want.
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:47 AM
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I mean uh. Do you want to take it up with the women I’ve dated and am dating from cold approach? You can tell them they were wrong to see me. Kind of preaching to the choir here.
/r/seduction16/05/22 07:21 AM
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Huh? How does that work? Tell her “Hi I make 200k+?” Like you, I was a student and now I make quite a lot of $$$. Dating didn’t change.
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:01 PM
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Money doesn’t significantly help you and status comes primarily from social skills.
/r/seduction09/05/22 07:06 AM
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What’s better than this? Just guys being dudes. It’s the right kinda autism.
/r/seduction03/05/22 10:19 PM
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? This is believable for me
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:56 PM
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What about being confident in your social skills? Being able to make her feel heard, challenged, inspired, and calmed.
/r/seduction28/04/22 06:58 AM
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Search up girlschase 14 ways to text a girl. I follow that formula to a T.
/r/seduction23/04/22 06:27 AM
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You have to be confident you’ll re seduce her on the date. People feel contrast in emotions more so than the absolute level. So you let it drop a bit before, and spike it again when you meet her. She feels that strongly.
/r/seduction22/04/22 04:46 PM
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Car?
/r/seduction22/04/22 07:16 AM
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I have rights to this name so I’ll be taking a 10% annuity of their income for life. Be glad that it’s not higher. Edit: lol I see you asking about Both grocery store and waitress. Employee game fiend
/r/seduction21/04/22 05:19 PM
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Hello. I’ve heard grocery store employees have a secret power. Pulls out two oranges. So which one do you think will be juicier? … this sounds like a balls joke … Or you could just ask her normal questions about herself.
/r/seduction21/04/22 05:18 PM
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Have taken waitress/cashier girls on dates. You never know. Just do it. Nike.
/r/seduction21/04/22 05:16 PM
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At 18 I was seeing a 24 yo. At 22 I was with a 30 yo. You are ok (I’m a guy).
/r/seduction01/04/22 05:54 AM
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Make plans during the cold approach. Text quickly after and say hello. After she replies, send a “let’s do X thing that we talked about at Y time”. The non neediness should come through in person, not through your texts.
/r/seduction01/04/22 05:52 AM
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Sounds like you didn’t escalate? As in you didn’t try to seduce her and she got annoyed that she couldn’t get sex from you.
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:01 PM
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My question to you - what will you do instead? You clearly care about the experience of love (or at least lust). It’s a pretty integral part of the human experience. Someday you’re going to die. Your brain is going to shut off and all the experiences you had will evaporate. You’ll rot in the ground until nothing is left. Before that happens, try. Struggle until your tears drip from the corners of your eyes and (metaphorically) you bleed red. Give yourself the chance to make what you want happen.…
/r/seduction27/03/22 07:24 PM
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Generally, yes solo is better. However, I’ve been in the game with a close friend for 3 years and we work together pretty flawlessly. But we also do a lot of shit for amusement that’s suboptimal. Was in a good set with my wing. She goes “I have a messenger pigeon I can give you” when I ask for contact. I go “let’s connect my pigeon and yours through phone number”. And my friend then says “yeah and then you can make baby pigeons”. And we both laugh like fuckin hyenas.
/r/seduction17/03/22 03:44 AM
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Am working on this right now as a recently graduated dude who just shows up to some college clubs (long story and it’s not my ug). So I feel the urge to not be weird really strongly. So one tactic is obviously just to be really charismatic in clubs/groups. Had a girl blatantly ask if I was single and she’s scheduling the date. Feels nice to be on the other side. Other way I’m going is super subtlety. I don’t have it fully worked out, but basically doing really toned down flirting I’d do on a col…
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:10 AM
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Advice #1 is do volume and learn to approach even when you desperately want not to. Advice #2… there’s like 100 equally good advice I could give but right now I’m going back and working on my open. My learning here is you need to be able to stop a girl with a “hi!”. The rest of the opener comes later. But that first greeting should catch her attention in a strong way. Doesn’t mean it has to be super loud - in a bookstore you can go quiet, but clear to her that she should be listening to you.
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:30 AM
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Don’t talk about your sex life. Do daygame. Works for me.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:29 AM
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The answer for me is you don’t. Do the work irl and just ask her out.
/r/seduction02/03/22 03:39 PM
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Very topical for me. So I am sort of in the same place. Ran big rotation, broke that off, and now focusing on career and friends. Debated with myself whether I should allow any relationship in the next couple years, or only focus on game and casual stuff. Thing is I don’t know what I want so I can’t decide. Resolution I came to after discussing w a friend is to just explore both. If it feels right, go for it. You need to trust your conscious less to know what you want. Instead, you try it, and o…
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:43 AM
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Early 20s software eng. You are an algorithm to date well. That algorithm needs good quality data to train on and learn. Thus your chief concern is not how to get girls, but how to meet the most girls in the most diversity of situations in the way that gives you the clearest signal on how to get better.
/r/seduction23/02/22 12:49 AM
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Essentially. I speak from a silicon valley tech mindset and don't know HW that well though so take it w a grain of salt. Sounds like you want to go more into the business/ops side, which is also a good path.
/r/seduction20/02/22 10:20 AM
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Bigco tech hardware will work. Eg apple.
/r/seduction20/02/22 09:59 AM
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Software. Beep boop code
/r/seduction19/02/22 09:35 PM
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I like seducing girls I just met during the daytime. Call it a hobby of mine. I can talk you through all the struggles I went through, but to get to results, I was seeing 5 women at the same time last summer (3 from pure street cold approach, 1 from a networking event, 1 from a shared hobby). This was when I was a student and making no money. I now make in the top 5% of US incomes. Nothing has changed since then. I’ll go to a coffee shop tomorrow and chat up some women. They won’t have any idea …
/r/seduction19/02/22 10:26 AM
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My max was 5, briefly, for like a month. For longer than that, 3. I think 2-3 is optimal. I rarely use dating apps period. My rotations have been from cold approach mainly. If I meet someone relationship worthy, I consider committing, but until then, stick w rotation.
/r/seduction17/02/22 05:02 AM
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Done it. Read post jn my profile. Find the right girl and lead.
/r/seduction29/01/22 03:22 AM
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Beginner -> tell her she’s cute. Intermediate -> learn to be more subtle. Advanced -> you say whatever the fuck you want and let subcomms talk for you.
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:50 AM
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Sounds hot. Relax. By trying to be dominating you conversely become less so.
/r/seduction21/01/22 01:42 PM
1

Car sex in parking garage or parking lots? On remote roads?
/r/seduction12/01/22 06:07 AM
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Date in a way such that you get as much signal as possible. Your best time to get information is while you’re in person. Go for that risky kiss. Touch her a bit and see how she reacts. Tease her. Ideally, how she acts after the date shouldn’t be a surprise.
/r/seduction08/01/22 04:35 PM
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I have slept with a cashier I grabbed number from. I blocked the line behind me and one of the other cashiers was a bro and opened a new line. Also made out w a waitress I grabbed number from who was serving my table. Take that as you will. Oh yeah and I flirted w a Costco greeter and grabbed her number on the way out. Did not text her though rip. Couple more stories but need to recall. Anyways, works fine. Regular game applies, but obviously be respectful and discreet.
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:48 AM
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Drag fingers along her back. Play with hair and scratch/massage scalp. Vary pressure - sometimes pull her in tighter or relax. Random neck kisses or ear nibbles.
/r/seduction04/01/22 06:45 PM
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I ran super direct back then “hi! I thought you looked nice/are cute and wanted to say hi”. I now gravitate more towards a semi-generic compliment like “I like your style/walk/shirt/whatever”. Generally what people say that “how you say it matters more than what you say” is true. You can literally open with “{insert color here} shirt!” and you’d probably do fine if you sound commanding/playful enough and follow up in convo well. But that’s learned, so best to stick to normal openers learning.
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:32 AM
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Idk who downvoted you but good Q. At that time, yes and no. I have a lot of cool stories to share, but tldr is quite a few dates and several good make outs. But never ended up closing. I could tell it was a problem with my game though and not a core attractiveness thing. I stopped going hard for about 4 months, re-evaluated, and went hard again summer of 2021. That was when things clicked - I ran a 5 girl rotation, had several other girls I went on good dates with that fizzled, and did a sdl whe…
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:28 AM
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This was during peak COVID back in fall of 2020. I worked a wfh job, so I’d work from 8-4ish and leave immediately to daygame. Sometimes I’d daygame even at lunch. I was lucky to be living in walking distance of a city center - I’ve moved away now.
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:20 AM
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I spent three months going out for daygame every day for at least 2 hours. I think the focused nature of it helped me overcome AA. Fail or not, I’m just having fun flirting - it’s a fuck it why not mentality. It also helped that I’ve gotten positive reinforcement. Especially the woman (usually older) who tell me that they’re taken but that my approach is very nice and I should keep doing this.
/r/seduction04/12/21 05:23 PM
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My friend would be a little annoyed, but overall chill. It's not like my friend owns his gf, so it's not the other guy's responsibility to "not steal" my friend's girl. All my friend can do is say 1. I did poorly somehow. 2. I misjudged this girl.
/r/seduction06/11/21 06:10 PM
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Probably? She's a good woman and I trust her to make the right decision for herself. Obviously this was hard to know when I first met her, but by and large I will assume she knows what she's doing unless I see strong warning signs.
/r/seduction06/11/21 06:04 PM
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When you with girlfriend, agreed. When they with boyfriend, not agreed. You don’t know what her circumstances are. I personally had a nice time w a girl who had a bf (didn’t know at the time) and I don’t regret it. A friend of mine pretty much seduced a girl off of her boyfriend and they got into a 1.5 year relationship.
/r/seduction06/11/21 03:11 PM
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All I can say is grind. Took me a few months of approaching every day to break thru approach anxiety consistently. I stopped going hard for the last few months but I can still mostly approach at will, so seems like you keep it too.
/r/seduction30/10/21 04:24 AM
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Have you tried other ways that perform better? Would love to hear.
/r/seduction18/10/21 04:42 AM
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Only a day? Dw about it. I don’t text back girls I like for a week sometimes. Girls can be worse.
/r/seduction06/10/21 09:53 PM
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Most things that are good for game are very moral. Honesty and a genuine desire to be good to others (incl women) are imo the most important traits. Getting to a position where you can simply be these things is hard. I can come up with a few things that are “not moral” and work. For example, hard negging does work, but invariably I’ve found that a more nuanced teasing works better. Some people would say that daygame itself js weird and intrusive. I’d disagree. In general though your question is …
/r/seduction15/09/21 05:48 PM
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Have pulled from campus. Just say you like taking walks there cause it’s nice.
/r/seduction27/08/21 01:45 AM
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~2 hours from daytime approach -> her place
/r/seduction20/08/21 07:27 PM
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I use almost the exact same scale. Only difference is I’d say anything above 8 is particular to the guy.
/r/seduction15/08/21 06:51 PM
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You might just not be speaking loudly enough to be noticed. Imagine an animal rights guy on the street waving at you, big smile, and saying “hey, you!! Do you want to save the whales?” You can tone it down with more experience - I sometimes whisper on my openers now. But to start, be louder and bigger.
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:13 AM
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Ice cream is the only thing you need to pull
/r/seduction26/06/21 12:19 AM
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More boobs. More ass. More better.
/r/seduction14/06/21 08:47 AM
0

I generally pass, but you could hang out w her once platonically to see if she’s cool
/r/seduction01/06/21 12:08 AM
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Lmao now this is what you call polarizing
/r/seduction31/05/21 09:51 PM
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Blatantly false. I get more dates out of girls who are working than random girls walking on the street. I don't know why but that just how it be. Edit: going on a date w a girl I met working at my local grocery store yesterday
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:15 AM
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Oh yeah. One of a kind girl. Not pulling the trigger at times like that drove me to get better at dating. Good luck on your journey :)
/r/seduction19/05/21 06:21 PM
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Yo idk why everyone on seddit basically says hurr durr there is no female seduction whenever a post like this comes up. There is definitely female seduction and in many ways it mirrors male seduction. Banter, teasing, and push pull applies to women just as much as men. Making him feel “seen” ie deep diving his life and making him feel understood at a deep level. Personally works on me - random expressions of passion about whatever they like. I’m a big sucker for girls who like books and can expl…
/r/seduction19/05/21 07:28 AM
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This is a really good question. I don’t think so. Serious is fine as long as you’re in that relaxed, devil may care mindset. That allows you to flirt or banter or escalate at will, and that’s all you need.
/r/seduction07/05/21 03:38 PM
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I have the same problem of relating. I either lead very strongly to the point that the girl is basically an afterthought, speak Willy nilly about my passions and display value that way, or just do purely sexual/gamey stuff. The better solution tho is to find girls you vibe w and that might be off OLD for you. Cold approach in professional areas or colleges can be good.
/r/seduction21/03/21 09:56 PM
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That’s actually v solid. I figured you were earlier in your journey if you were a virgin. I’d hesitate on fixating on 10/10. Personally I think athletic and naturally pretty girls are better than girls who focus on being hot. More importantly focusing on this metric will make approaching more of an ego trip over time and will artificially stop you from taking shots at girls you perceive to be “below your threshold”. Otherwise sounds reasonable, if a little bit of a stretch. Make sure you’re not …
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:34 PM
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What’s your progress like on these and how do you see yourself getting there?
/r/seduction16/03/21 06:58 PM
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What do you mean hard to get this girl is flat out interested.
/r/seduction16/02/21 04:18 AM
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Eye contact, walk up, dance?, put out hand, dance while holding her hand, pull her in, ???, profit
/r/seduction04/02/21 08:25 AM
1

Very cool! What advice would you have given to your younger, non-naked self?
/r/seduction01/02/21 01:04 AM
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Bro i'm intermediate af but I've had a lot of these "girl qualifies herself at the end but flakes" approaches and instadates. Can be lack of comfort. She gets your text and is like wait I barely know this guy. On the other hand you can go ultra mysterious but that's hard to do on a longer instant date. I personally don't think it's your text game at all. I think pushing for a close is necessary when you're learning but a higher percentage way might be to go half-way on the instant date and just …
/r/seduction31/01/21 06:27 AM
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Stay entitled and go for another date in a few days. Keep the fboy vibe going. She wants to pump the brakes a bit to make her seem more valuable but is into you.
/r/seduction26/01/21 09:59 PM
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Isn’t it the other way around? Showing teeth indicates aggression so she might scare the male off.
/r/seduction25/01/21 03:49 PM
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As a guy who has been asked for std tests, just ask directly. I can't think of a good way to beat around the bush and it's too important. Sounds like you already have fun with it.
/r/seduction17/01/21 08:25 AM
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Go to rich area. Dress hot. Walk around by yourself. Hope to get approached by reasonably well off dude. Profit $$$
/r/seduction16/01/21 05:42 AM
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Ayy this is more of what this sub needs and less circlejerking
/r/seduction16/01/21 03:24 AM
2

Be her fire king
/r/seduction25/12/20 06:21 AM
1

Ideally take out selfies that are just yourself unless backdrop is extremely interesting. Take out #justice4charizard. The hashtag makes it seem like you don’t think the Pokémon cards are interesting enough on their own, so you need to compensate with something tacky. Edit: probably just shorten it to the first sentence
/r/seduction24/12/20 06:21 PM
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Just act like an unmarried guy looking for something casual. Many girls will get off to the idea that you’re married when they find out. Also beware of your wife saying that you can go bang other women but feeling iffy about it. That’s delicate.
/r/seduction22/12/20 05:13 PM
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Hey this is fun. Want to join me for a cheat meal sometime
/r/seduction20/12/20 09:52 PM
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You make this guy sound like a mythical creature when there are thousands of guys here who have successfully approached. Use the search bar
/r/seduction18/12/20 03:41 AM
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Judging by this question you don’t have much sexual experience. Just be direct.
/r/seduction18/12/20 03:33 AM
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I got the best book. You’ll love it. It’s called Practice by Going Out. Actual plan: Read models, go out a lot, and search up specific questions here or at girlschase. Then circle back for more books.
/r/seduction17/12/20 08:06 AM
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There’s no double standard. They want men who are high value enough that they genuinely don’t see the hot girl as special.
/r/seduction15/12/20 09:11 AM
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Never say never. Front stop is better. From behind can work with lower efficiency.
/r/seduction15/12/20 03:52 AM
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Def a happy problem to have. Most of us mortals have problems speeding things up ;). You can try disqualifying them but keeping the frame positive and teasing. Like pull them in and whisper in their ear “damn girl you move pretty fast, come w me over here and let me get to know you first”. Classic push pull, except you emphasize the push a bit more. At the same time, you move them within the venue to strongly lead. TLDR: just act like a high status flirty girl. You are the prize and you’re not g…
/r/seduction13/12/20 06:35 PM
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I don’t have strong techniques for duo or trio. I just say hi, excuse me, loudly. I look the girl I’m interested in deep in the eyes, and compliment her. I exchange a few sentences and introduce myself. Then I talk to the other girls real quick and try to bring them into the convo. I ask her out at the end. That’s p much it. One of my weaknesses is going full indirect; it brings out the beginner anxiety in me bc idk what I’m doing lol. I’ve rarely had problems w tensions. I’m just clear who I’m …
/r/seduction13/12/20 04:00 AM
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I’ve done it and closed her on first date. Be discreet but direct. She doesn’t have time to waste if she’s busy.
/r/seduction13/12/20 02:27 AM
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Solo is when real shit happens. You have complete freedom to instant date or take the interaction farther. Wingmen are for when you just want to game w the boys
/r/seduction12/12/20 07:26 PM
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Depends on how much you care. Personally I’m clear that I see other people, but no more information than that.
/r/seduction11/12/20 10:49 PM
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Field test this and come back and tell us
/r/seduction11/12/20 10:35 PM
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Is it a common complaint that aloofness is vindictive? I feel like most people here know that aloofness is a good tool to use when the girl is underinvesting compared to you.
/r/seduction11/12/20 07:10 AM
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I see the matplotlib. Very nice Edit: After actually reading she has KPIs too. A true woman of industry.
/r/seduction08/12/20 05:51 AM
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I see your point that he’ll be needy, but doing #2 is a no no. It indicates that you need an online crutch to talk to someone in your class. He needs to put his balls on the line and practice by opening irl first.
/r/seduction05/12/20 10:33 PM
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Use the search bar
/r/seduction02/12/20 09:33 PM
1

odd. I've had it happen w the spermogenic coating condoms. They seem to numb the tongue if taken off right before bj. idk otherwise.
/r/seduction02/12/20 06:46 PM
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I see. I think you’re on a good path. Lines and routines are more beginner training wheels. If you’re building good rapport and connection, it’s more about themes. Focus on qualifying her, really going deep into some area of her life, lead strongly, touch her sometimes, etc. Personally I like to pull on first date. I want to see sexual compatibility quickly. I also think if I really like a girl and she likes me there’s no reason for us to wait. In terms of improving your game (which you seem lik…
/r/seduction02/12/20 03:57 AM
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The gold standard is a chase where you basically lead him through it. Equivalent to “advanced” seduction for guys where you make the girl chase but are subtly doing things to make it happen. That level of subtlety is difficult. On the bright side, men are much more prone to chase so it’s also easier. Imo seduction at the advanced level converges to the same thing for men and women.
/r/seduction02/12/20 03:08 AM
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How successful have your dates been? Have you pulled? Do you feel yourself building an emotional or sexual connection?
/r/seduction02/12/20 03:03 AM
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Was he wearing or took off a condom with spermogenic coating (ie kills sperm)
/r/seduction01/12/20 06:18 PM
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Destroy approach anxiety December. Use no nut nov as motivation
/r/seduction01/12/20 06:17 PM
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At work I'd tend towards indirect. Small talk a bit -> "you seem pretty cool. I love boba - want to come on a boba outing w me to this place? Maybe on the weekend or something." It's important to signal that you are discreet bc work reputations are on the line.
/r/seduction01/12/20 06:02 AM
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hand on leg certain types of eye contact - either glancing to and away or really deep eye-fucking. both of these convey interest. this one's big but idk how to explain it. As a man I default to intensity. grabbing my hand wrapping an arm around my waist and pressing her body against mine hugs with her arms around my neck. plus more pressing her body against mine
/r/seduction01/12/20 03:55 AM
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Give approaching women who notice you first a shot when you get things sorted (or start now and sort yourself out that way). You’ll determine what the effect you’re seeing is very quickly.
/r/seduction01/12/20 02:40 AM
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Is it attraction or are you interesting in some other way? Have you tried approaching women who pay attention to you?
/r/seduction01/12/20 01:26 AM
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It’s kind of like financial freedom to me. I want dating freedom. Also connecting with the right women is like drugs. Making her cum sparks something in me I can’t quite get anywhere else. Maybe I’m just addicted.
/r/seduction30/11/20 11:31 PM
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Search this subreddit. Short answer yes.
/r/seduction30/11/20 01:45 AM
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First
/r/seduction29/11/20 07:27 PM
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Have closed cashiers/girls I approached at their work. Be discreet and don’t push.
/r/seduction27/11/20 08:01 AM
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Commit about a month to approaching almost every day, averaging 8+ sets. That’s what did it for me. I had been approaching on and off for half a year w some success, but had never shaken AA. After about 1.5 mo of going hard I actually approach anywhere anytime. Honestly tho I’m getting tired of giving flaky girls the time of the day. Starting to screen harder for interest.
/r/seduction21/11/20 01:25 AM
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Generally I’d advise moving on. Go find new women and decrease your neediness for any one girl. However, if you see her again, say hi and game her but actively try to fail. Why? You need to learn to persist and get through this mental handicap on whether it’s ok to reapproach. At the same time, you shouldn’t invest too much into this girl. Imo it’s almost always fine to approach, no matter what the situation is. I’ve approached at night, in stores, big groups, small groups, in the gym, cashier, …
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:33 AM
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Your last line is exactly right. Of course, please be considerate of the woman. That goes without saying. However, you have no choice but to approach if you want to get better. That's what I've done, that's what many men have done since time immemorial, and that's what you're going to do. Good luck!
/r/seduction20/11/20 05:04 AM
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That’s the spirit
/r/seduction20/11/20 12:17 AM
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Too harsh bro. In time he’ll become a confident, charming man. That will take work beyond toastmasters or improv (not saying he shouldn’t do those). When he becomes that man, women will be glad that he came up to say hi.
/r/seduction19/11/20 10:10 PM
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If you try to court her with that mindset of overanalyzing small interactions, you’ll fail. If you think there might be interest, assume that it is and move things forward.
/r/seduction16/11/20 04:36 PM
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Better to do a few weeks of intense approaching than a few months of sparse approaching. Really set aside time every day. Then take a week break. Repeat. Kind of like work outs w intense periods and deload. You’ll learn faster.
/r/seduction14/11/20 09:21 PM
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Agree w theselfreliantman. Favorite girls often were kind of meh at first sight. Just attractive enough for me to approach, but not like oh shit she bad.
/r/seduction14/11/20 07:33 AM
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Haha I still go direct. Wave at her to grab her attention when you’re nearby and she’s between sets. Hey, so I know we’ve only exchanged a few words here and there, but I (think you’re chill and kinda interesting/or more specific compliment). wait for her response. Don’t belt out this whole thing like a bad salesman. I know we’re in the gym so I don’t want to waste either of our time. Are you single? She says yes and seems somewhat open to you Cool! Maybe we’ll go get ice cream sometime. I’m a b…
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:53 AM
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It’s about the good women, yeah? I’m younger, but feeling that lack of desire for women in general. Some get me going though. I like accomplished and career driven women they best. We can connect. Most other women... it’s kind of an idle pursuit.
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:45 AM
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Yep start pushing your boundaries. Pursue women a little. Eventually you’ll get better and can pursue less. Don’t be afraid to ask out hella girls. I once had a date every day for a week bc I asked out every cute girl in my organization plus cold approach plus tinder. Now I’m pulling back a bit. Good times tho
/r/seduction13/11/20 05:11 AM
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Building confidence starts by taking risks. Talk to random people. Talk to hot girls and focus on building a connection. Ask them out respectfully, but directly. Repeat 20+ times. Edit: my b I assumed you were a man w/o properly reading. Do this, but reversed by gender. For women it’s a little different bc society puts you in more of a pursued role. Still can flirt and go on dates tho. Take risks and be willing to fuck it up w some guy if you make a misstep. Do public speaking or some type of pe…
/r/seduction13/11/20 04:17 AM
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If you haven’t asked out at least 20 girls irl, it’s time to start
/r/seduction13/11/20 04:15 AM
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Ahhhh broo I feel like this man sometimes, but I'm still not quite there yet. Thanks for putting it into words.
/r/seduction12/11/20 04:29 PM
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Dick don’t get hard if I’m not attracted
/r/seduction10/11/20 09:18 PM
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Go do daygame and this shit ez
/r/seduction10/11/20 07:55 AM
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Girls are receptive. Hard for me to say whether more or less so. I’d incline to say more so.
/r/seduction10/11/20 07:31 AM
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I’m still working on that. I find girls who have strong future plans and passions are easy for me to connect with deeply. Most girls don’t have that though so I struggle a bit more. It’s def a limitation of my game I’m gradually fixing
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:21 AM
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Ok this has been done to death but here ya go. For me, exposure and good reactions killed my AA (mostly). I spent about a month where I’d approach for 2+ hours almost every day, hitting between 5 and 15 sets. I generally focused on providing value through the compliment, opening loudly, and building a fun connection. I’ve gotten lots of girls responding v positively even if they have bf or whatever. It didn’t start out that way though - it was quite gradual.
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:20 AM
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Ahhh. I barely watched his vids. One day I’ll be good enough to be a rsd level instructor 🙏
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:38 AM
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What’s the reference? Goog translate says what’s up in German.
/r/seduction10/11/20 12:34 AM
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Haha I feel this. I cold approach and have been getting solid dates (avg of 1 per week). The thing is I actually feel more horny when I'm sitting at home than on a date. I'm low key sapiosexual so if the girl is objectively attractive but I'm not feeling our convo, I literally don't get horny. When I do pull and close, I feel like I'm following a process. I've gotten girls who are into me auto-reject bc I don't make them feel wanted enough. I think I just need to channel more of the raw desire. …
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:33 PM
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Bro you got it. Put yourself out there if you have social groups around. If you don't, do daygame and focus on quickly building fun, spontaneous connections. If you're afraid of stepping out of your comfort zone, remember that if you don't practice, you'll stay exactly where you are, never to improve. Use that as a fire to go far.
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:26 PM
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Give gifts as a thank you for all the value that they've already brought to your life, not the potential value you want to suck out of them.
/r/seduction07/11/20 09:07 AM
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Keep them high, but also improve yourself. I’ve always had high standards for women, but I don’t think my personal value has been commensurate with them until fairly recently.
/r/seduction07/11/20 12:27 AM
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I’m all physical escalation and moving the girl around on date. During approach I just move girl around and banter p much. Would love to see more verbal examples from others.
/r/seduction06/11/20 04:39 PM
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I have gone on quite a few dates w receptionists, waitresses, etc. A little bit of convo and then just direct ask works fine. Of course be aware that her workplace reputation is on the line. Discretion is your friend.
/r/seduction06/11/20 07:07 AM
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Yeah my usual process is I schedule a call from OLD messaging and set up a date from that. Ups my rate and helps me screen the girl.
/r/seduction06/11/20 07:04 AM
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I’ve successfully cold approached all races except black women (just not that many around where I live). Go for it
/r/seduction06/11/20 01:19 AM
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It’s all about the opportunity to practice. That can be hard to find if you’re not already really socially strong. To break the negative cycle I recommend social hobbies. Hip hop or social dance is my personal recommendation. Doing that and meeting people through it plus cold approach will put you in a positive loop. Cheers to improvement bro.
/r/seduction05/11/20 07:47 PM
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Do intermittent walks throughout the day and do 1 approach on each.
/r/seduction05/11/20 07:26 PM
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Eh yeah it just needs to be something that she can open you on. I once wore one of those Hawaiian leis to some afterparties bc I think I had gone to a Hawaiian themed party earlier. A bunch of girls attempted to open me based on that.
/r/seduction05/11/20 04:58 PM
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Obama
/r/seduction03/11/20 07:14 PM
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You can either say something came up w/o rescheduling or you can propose new times now. Up to how available you want to seem.
/r/seduction03/11/20 06:27 PM
1

Alpha makes me think Obama. Warm and dominant. That combination is best.
/r/seduction03/11/20 06:51 AM
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Approach a lot. You’ll get used to it. I’ve been going on walk dates w a Russian model I cold approached. People stare at us (more accurately they stare at her and wonder who tf I am). The thing is she talks so much about kinda stupid stuff. Like at first I thought wow cool so much investment from a hot girl! But now I’m just tired. I decided not to follow up after our second date.
/r/seduction02/11/20 07:47 AM
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If you don’t believe you can get this girl to date you, you might friend zone her. For guys, that means if you seem too low attainability she might just default to asking to be friends.
/r/seduction02/11/20 04:19 AM
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Rotations = multiple girls at same time in a rotation. Lead social circles = nothing really special. Basically be alpha of a group.
/r/seduction01/11/20 05:48 PM
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Everything is dictated by your in person game. If you can get her to invest in you, giving her your number or vice versa will both work. If the interaction was brief or you couldn’t get investment, you’ll have to text her first and keep pushing the convo from your end. Nuance.
/r/seduction01/11/20 04:14 PM
1

Early 20s. What do you hate about it?
/r/seduction01/11/20 04:11 PM
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I never saw it that way. Every year there were new results. The first year I went from not knowing how to talk to girls to talking to lots of them platonically. My second year I understood the mechanics of setting up dates and closing. My third year I started cold approach and led my first few social circles. This year I set up my first rotation and am sharpening cold approach to up girl quality.
/r/seduction01/11/20 04:08 PM
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I’m not at 100 yet, but I’m pretty decent. I can cold approach, sometimes get rotations, and lead social circles. It took 4 years of practice and reflection and reading.
/r/seduction01/11/20 04:00 PM
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Lol I’m just teasing you ;)
/r/seduction31/10/20 10:14 PM
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The difference is subtle. If you're focusing on passing shit tests, you're competing with her. She has the power and you're trying to win her approval. If you focus on yourself and maintaining your own fun, it's all in you. From start to finish, seduction should be a collaboration. She just doesn't know it yet ;).
/r/seduction31/10/20 04:46 AM
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Ask them to take a walk around town. The walk ends at your place.
/r/seduction31/10/20 01:08 AM
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Hm interesting. If you’re into dance you might want to try urban or contemporary. Lots of young women there. Hell in my contemporary classes I’m usually the only guy. You might also want to try cold approach. Been on that grind for the past few months and have seen results. For improving, my mindset is basically ask out every girl I see that I like. Now it’s cooling down a bit but I’m still hoein.
/r/seduction31/10/20 01:05 AM
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I don’t really agree with sockaccount, but he’s right that there are no hard and fast rules. Don’t focus on “passing shit tests”. Focus on keeping a fun and flirty frame in the interaction.
/r/seduction31/10/20 01:01 AM
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No, socially. Do you meet women at social events and get to know them?
/r/seduction31/10/20 12:58 AM
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How do women react to you when you meet them in person?
/r/seduction31/10/20 12:56 AM
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I like to watch beginners fail to tell myself it’s ok to do poorly in daygame. You should just force yourself to watch. It’s a pretty low cost way to chip away at your approach anxiety. Of course you gotta be getting out there eventually.
/r/seduction30/10/20 03:33 PM
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Very bond-esque style that you like.
/r/seduction30/10/20 03:30 PM
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Haha fair enough
/r/seduction30/10/20 03:21 PM
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You don’t seem to have a lot of the base life problems many guys here have. Go cold approach.
/r/seduction30/10/20 06:09 AM
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PUA coaches hate him! Learn how to do pickup in one easy step! Go out and practice
/r/seduction29/10/20 10:22 PM
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Bro women are horny too. Yesterday I went on a date w a girl I cold approached. She kept giving me shit tests about being a stranger, but happily came home w me. Then she realized we had mutual friends and didn’t want to bang anymore. Her rationale is she “wanted to bang a perfect stranger from the street”. So once we had mutuals the mystery was lost. This threw me for a loop, but showed me that women fantasize about all sorts of shit. Be a sexy man to fulfill their desires. God knows there aren…
/r/seduction29/10/20 07:46 PM
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She’s a lil older, late 20s? I haven’t explicitly asked her. Thanks for the advice - that or being even more blatantly sexual. I put my arm around her waist when we walk and touch her p often when we talk. There’s not much space for me to verbally escalate though so I kind of like your suggestion to just interrupt her and ask.
/r/seduction28/10/20 04:46 PM
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I'm feeling this to some degree. Met a russian model girl on the street and went on an I-date. She just talks so much though about random shit and it's hard for me to build sexual tension. Pulled that time but couldn't close at all (not even a kiss). Went on a second walk date today and again she would just talk. What's confusing to me is I barely say anything at this point. She just talks and qualifies herself and basically carries the whole conversation. Yet she seems oddly ambivalent about ac…
/r/seduction28/10/20 08:27 AM
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Yeah this is an easy approach. “Hey I talked to you way back when what’s up”
/r/seduction27/10/20 10:18 PM
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I’m wrestling with this too. I imagine it as a company reaching out to you for an interview w/o you applying. They must have looked at your credentials in your field or something to make the initial judgement to give you a call. However, they will still run you through a rigorous interview process, and may still easily reject you. On the more emotional side, you can also see it as adding selfless value to the girl’s life.
/r/seduction27/10/20 09:18 PM
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Posts like this make me sad. What have you tried already, what didn’t work about it, and why do you think it didn’t work?
/r/seduction27/10/20 03:55 PM
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Have gotten lay off of this. It can work. Obv be prepared for rejection like any other cold approach. Be conscious that her work reputation is on the line and be discreet.
/r/seduction26/10/20 11:12 PM
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Fair enough. Thanks for sharing your perspective - I’ll be more mindful going forward. Thanks for listening as well.
/r/seduction25/10/20 07:35 PM
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Hype. I read your comment and I aspire to be where you’re at. This is my first year of cold approach and it’s already been a ton of fun.
/r/seduction25/10/20 07:31 PM
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Haha for sure. That's what every guy goes through when they first start approaching. One negative reaction would make me feel bad for a whole day. For the vast majority of guys, bad reactions make them stop entirely. But slowly the positive interactions, girls telling me this was great, dates, and relationships start adding up. For me at least, life is too short to not let these extremely positive experiences go, for both me and her. I can't let the "might" control me. Whenever you ask someone o…
/r/seduction25/10/20 06:52 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree. I'd say at least half of women respond very warmly to my approach and we get into a nice conversation. A solid percentage have told me "This thing you just did - it's good! Keep doing it!" For the girls who have boyfriends, are married, or are uncomfortable, I gracefully eject. Even with girls who are spoken for, I often have fun and friendly conversations. Just yesterday I cold approached a girl, and she told me she had a boyfriend. I walked with her for a bit and…
/r/seduction25/10/20 05:40 PM
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I started with girlschase (website, google it) long ago and you should too. Great set of free articles. It also focuses more on psychology and empathy which you should def learn more about.
/r/seduction25/10/20 05:35 AM
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Haha yep. Nothing like good ole desensitization.
/r/seduction25/10/20 05:32 AM
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Haha yeah. I lost her from that (although w really good game I wonder if I could’ve salvaged it). It lives on as a funny game story I’ll remember forever though.
/r/seduction25/10/20 12:48 AM
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Where’s option for on the street
/r/seduction24/10/20 11:13 PM
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Lmaoo you’re literally me. Tall but not facially gifted. By 8 and above do you mean model tier girls? Cause I put most girls that can model around 8.5. And yes, you can get those kind of girls. For me it’s all irl tho through cold approach or social circle. Can’t tinder those kind of girls to save my life.
/r/seduction24/10/20 10:46 PM
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Agreed. It’s a trade off for sure. Some people need to bear that risk to improve socially though. I’m one of them. I messed up my rep for a while, then I started succeeding and my rep did a 180. Kind of disgusting to watch in a way.
/r/seduction24/10/20 10:45 PM
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Approaches where a girl goes off of her path to avoid me. Like if she goes into a shop or turns at a crosswalk. Those feel bad. Not a "worst" experience, but kind of a funny one. I had cold approached a girl earlier and she was super receptive. Grabbed her number and texted her. I later approached another girl nearby and the first girl walked past. The first girl sent me a really sarcastic text that said "the blonde you were talking to was really pretty! you have such good taste!" I later saw he…
/r/seduction24/10/20 10:00 PM
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Todd V is decent for more technical advice. James Tusk is good just for general motivation. James' game is not super optimized, but its simplicity is good for a beginner. You've probably heard this a ton, but nothing beats field experience. For me, I get good advice from vids, but I mainly use them as a source of encouragement. I recommend you watch this vid called "A Miami Man Inspired By Bhav's Transformation Takes The Plunge into Daygame For The 1st Time (i)" by James Tusk on youtube. The guy…
/r/seduction24/10/20 06:25 PM
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Glad you liked it! Oh yeah definitely today was v solid. My average day I get around 0.5 dates. Numbers be flaky and too many girls have bfs. Going on an I-date is pretty huge for me bc I want to incorporate it more into my game. It helps me learn to get girls to invest and move them around. I’ve worked on opening and AA for a few months now, and I think I’m finally decent there. Now I’m moving onto the next stage which is being a closer. I live in a decently big city. I usually start my daygame…
/r/seduction24/10/20 05:15 PM
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Hello here are some stories from cold approaches today. Sorry for the novel - I use reddit comments as motivation for FRs. Approach 0 I see a guy talking to a really hot indian girl in the street. Based on the overly large space between them and how they're just standing in the middle of the street, I'm pretty sure it's another daygamer. So the funny thing is I had actually approached this girl before. I had gotten a number from her but she didn't reply to my text. Our interaction hadn't been th…
/r/seduction24/10/20 07:30 AM
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I thought you looked nice and figured I should come say
/r/seduction23/10/20 03:44 AM
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I wrestle with this even though I have some results. In day approach have you had girls tell you that they appreciate your approach or say you should keep doing this? The fun conversations and connection is what keeps me going.
/r/seduction21/10/20 11:16 PM
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Ah yeah I wasn’t entirely clear. The optimal vibe straddles the line between friendliness and flirting/sexuality. However if you’re just starting out, err on the side of showing some intent at the start and then just being friendly. You need the reference experiences. If you jump too quickly you risk just getting blown out a lot bc your calibration is bad and not learning anything. You can def get dates the way I said before though. I average around 1 date a week off of daygame. I’m looking to i…
/r/seduction21/10/20 11:06 PM
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Generally agree. I prefer to send a stronger statement like “see you tonight :)”
/r/seduction21/10/20 08:00 PM
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I ask out like 3+ girls a day. Say hi you’re cute. Then ask her about her and carry a nice convo. Talk about yourself too and tell stories during it. Then say yeah you’re cool (or leave if she’s not), let’s do (whatever u prefer) sometime. Grab her number if she says yes. When girls turn you down but say thank you for approaching, that’s when your vibe is decent for not being a creep. Now the vibe for actually getting dates? That’s another story.
/r/seduction21/10/20 04:43 PM
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Idk man I daygame w a 5’3 guy who’s not especially well off. He spins plates.
/r/seduction21/10/20 01:12 AM
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Hm if you’re already at a couple of dates and slept w her I don’t think there’s too much of an issue. She already has a view of you that isn’t affected by money.
/r/seduction20/10/20 11:58 PM
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I somewhat disagree with this. I’ve seen myself get drastically better in daygame over the past month. I recently met some guys on the game just by chance in one of my preferred venues. There’s one guy who is significantly worse looking than me, but he’s able to pull I-dates consistently w girls I would have a hard time with. I’m not going to say he’s like a mpua or whatever - he struggles too. But it’s his skills that allow him to run smooth sets and get a lot of face time with the girl, wherea…
/r/seduction20/10/20 11:38 PM
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Classic Todd V. He’s right.
/r/seduction20/10/20 11:32 PM
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Somewhat same boat. Do daygame and keep your financial situation under wraps.
/r/seduction20/10/20 11:31 PM
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Wait idk about what other people have said. Persistence is consistently following up, like you would with a friend. For me, I give a girl 2-3 chances depending on how much I like her to go out on a date. After that I throw the ball into her court and tell her to text me if she wants to reconnect or set the time and place for the date. I show interest with both directness and restraint.
/r/seduction20/10/20 02:37 AM
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Idk if it’s easier per se but daygame’s about the same for me.
/r/seduction20/10/20 12:12 AM
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Masks haven’t been too much of an issue in daygame. It’s just harder to tell if she’s cute.
/r/seduction20/10/20 12:06 AM
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I go pretty casual. T shirt and jeans. Sometimes a short sleeved collared shirt. Considering buying a nice denim or leather jacket to go w that. No hat. Yeah I focus really hard on the having her not be creeped out or scared in the first 10 seconds. It’s a struggle. I think I’ve been gaming too much and had a bunch of blowouts yesterday (the most this week by a significant gap). I’m also finding that my first sets are often my best ones. I’m a little worried I’m getting robotic/burnt out, so tak…
/r/seduction18/10/20 06:43 PM
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Lol I’m a normal guy. Pua is more of an aspiration 😅
/r/seduction18/10/20 06:29 PM
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I agree. However, the world isn’t so black and white. Some men aren’t thirsty betas, but genuinely want to protect and cherish the girl. I’m not totally against them being a white knight and therapisting her. Maybe it comes from remnants of my nice guy past.
/r/seduction18/10/20 06:28 PM
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I’ve had a lay w a cashier I cold approached so not gonna knock ppl who run employee game. Good on op.
/r/seduction18/10/20 08:37 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction18/10/20 08:36 AM
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I went through this. You have to decide for yourself how much you want to manage her emotions. I personally am just very blunt and set boundaries early on, but her catching feels is up to her.
/r/seduction18/10/20 07:57 AM
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I'd love to see it. Went out today for 10+ sets myself and am seeing drastic improvement.
/r/seduction17/10/20 09:57 AM
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THIS IS PART 2 READ THE OTHER ONE FIRST Approach 5 [Indirect No] I see a really stylish Asian girl. She's not super receptive to my opener and gives me short replies. I get some info out of her. She's in fashion so I go hm makes sense... can you give tips to one as uninitiated as I who only wears tshirts and jeans? She's like lol this city isn't that fashionable dw about it. I decide to cut the set short so go for a coffee ask close. That's the interesting part. So she says "hmm... if I see you …
/r/seduction17/10/20 09:10 AM
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idk man you can look at my comment history where I write novels about my 10+ approaches per day. I'm not really comfortable doing big posts cause it's too much visibility in a way? But reddit still helps motivate me to write FRs. So here's a novel you didn't ask for so I can get in my FR for today. Preface I found a gang of daygamers today. Saw this guy hitting up a tall hot brunette in a nice green top and white skirt. Based on distance and body language I instantly knew that he was on the game…
/r/seduction17/10/20 09:10 AM
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The hi excuse me is loud. The rest of it doesn’t need to be. Also generally women don’t think like that. If someone says hi to you on the street your first thought isn’t oh shit everyone else is looking at me. You focus on the person saying hi.
/r/seduction16/10/20 06:15 PM
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Quietness is associated w low value. Homeless people who make odd requests are generally gonna be pretty quiet. You don’t really see them doing loud “hey!” cause that’ll get them arrested at some point. You being loud signals that you’re legit. Yeah I wave from pretty far - same reason p much. It’s not something someone does unless they know they have value.
/r/seduction16/10/20 04:35 PM
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Honestly yeah you might be right. The interaction felt awk to me but action tells. She’s cute so I’m hopeful. Regarding street stops, I actually was in your exact same position about a month ago. I posted to reddit to ask about it. Now street stops are bread n butter for me. I think the biggest thing I had to get into my mind was to be big with it. I had to be loud and commanding, but with some nice/happy vibe in my tone. Paradoxically, the louder and more commanding you are, the more comfortabl…
/r/seduction16/10/20 03:50 PM
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Hmm I mostly just focused on speaking with my lower register all the time. I think I have a naturally fairly deep voice that I pushed a lil lower. Sorry but you get a unwarranted novel too ;). Gotta write my FRs somehow. Went approaching again today. Had more kinda bad sets than usual where the girl looked at me weird (like 3/10)? Had two cute girls with bfs tell me that this was great and I should keep doing it. Approached a model tier blonde in a maroon skirt - she had a bf ofc but said she en…
/r/seduction16/10/20 03:09 AM
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I definitely get the occasional “uh I’m just gonna leave”. I’ve seen a drastic improvement in happy convos though as my tonality has gotten better. When I first started out here there were many more ass approaches. So I think it’s partially my skill. The girls here do seem pretty nice tho overall. I’m not really good looking either - I have fairly rough acne scarring. I’m def not the kind of looker who has women approaching him or anything. In hs I literally couldn’t even make female friends bc …
/r/seduction15/10/20 11:09 PM
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I feel like I’d put more pressure on myself if I did, but at this point I’m decent enough so probably will.
/r/seduction15/10/20 09:24 PM
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Glad you liked it bro. We all motivate each other here. I have a date today but planning to approach for two hours before that. Thank god for wfh bc I just be thotting instead of working.
/r/seduction15/10/20 06:57 PM
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Yes. Posture, tonality, and body language way more important though.
/r/seduction15/10/20 06:53 PM
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Sf
/r/seduction15/10/20 06:50 PM
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:( that sucks. I hope you can get him to stop. At the same time I wouldn’t call that a pickup artist tho. I’m like halfway one and I just go say hi to women I fancy if I see them randomly. We don’t support this behavior.
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:31 PM
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I’d propose to add in-field practice. Or do you mean mainly ways people get advice/information?
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:09 PM
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Thanks, glad you liked it! Honestly these are more for myself but hope others can learn something. I’m on the extreme daygame grind rn because no time in a few months.
/r/seduction15/10/20 08:07 AM
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You don’t think it was who you are that put you above the other 5 guys?
/r/seduction15/10/20 07:55 AM
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Keep taking Ls bro. You’ll get there.
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:27 AM
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Is this someone you know? Like they repeatedly ask you out?
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:18 AM
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Daygame still works. Mask on.
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:17 AM
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Generally agree. For most guys tho they don’t need to be superhuman. Getting 2 dates a week every week through pickup will fill your life with women quite quickly. Granted, even this benchmark is hard. I shoot for one date out of every 12 approaches (which I don’t even get consistently yet). That’s 24 approaches every week, which is not small if you have to balance a bunch of other work too.
/r/seduction15/10/20 05:15 AM
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Ok I generally agree with this. But there are some caveats. First, women go through this but 1000x worse, so we can't complain too hard. Second, the bar for "genetic good looks" is much lower than most people think. Maybe only bottom 20% truly will have difficulty surpassing their looks. Beyond that, good application of style, grooming, and exercise will put you above the basic bar. Maybe it won't be the "omg he's so hot I need to fuck him asap" bar, but it's something you can work with.
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:49 AM
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THIS IS PART 2, READ THE OTHER PART OF THIS FIRST. Approach 9 [Boyfriend] I stared at a girl walking up to my same crosswalk. She held eye contact for quite a while, and then we broke it when she actually got to near where I was. We stood there awkwardly for a few seconds, then I kinda looked over and said "hi uh... I think you're cute". She immediately reacted well and was like wow thank you! I walked with her for a few blocks and we chatted for a bit. I stopped her at the end and said hey this…
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:39 AM
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Yep! Mask on, downtown/city streets. I'm going to write a novel about my 10+ approaches today bc I use reddit comments as motivation to write my field reports lol. Anyways, 3 numbers from that. From those numbers, 1 date set, one I think is def a ghost, and one is like 40% she'll text back. Anyways, on to FR (all on city streets). These are not quite in order btw. I feel like I might be forgetting one or two too, they all kinda blur together after a while which is why we write FRs. lmao this was…
/r/seduction15/10/20 04:39 AM
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lmaoo bro I gun for 1 date out of 12 approaches it's not that great. The ratio will probably stay there bc I want to improve quality mainly. I've been doing average 2 hours a day for like over a month now? And I daygamed less consistently for a while before. So I'm logging my hours bro.
/r/seduction15/10/20 03:15 AM
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Haha I am exactly in this situation on purpose. Trying to test myself in a new city. I’m doing daygame like mad rn. Had 4 dates this week (that is more than usual tho). Honestly, you probably will find very little in events. I’ve been searching myself and I’d go if I could.
/r/seduction15/10/20 02:52 AM
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I had to urban dictionary this one. No, I went on a daygame sess today w 10 approaches and 3 numbers. No mask pull down. Looking like 1 date out of the numbers, maybe 2.
/r/seduction15/10/20 02:49 AM
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As with all answers, it depends. Ideally you’ve already hinted to her through how you speak and act that you’re interested in her as a woman. Then you can just say “let’s get drinks/ice cream/food this week” and she‘ll know. Saying date specifically is when she doesn’t think you’re interested in that way, such as if you’ve been her platonic friend for a while. Ideally tho even in that case you’d flirt/touch her more to indicate interest.
/r/seduction15/10/20 02:47 AM
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I’ve had a few. I’d say they’re generally better but I just haven’t had that many yet
/r/seduction14/10/20 06:32 AM
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Do you mean daygame? I probably have an accumulated like 30 outings on different days that I would call a total waste because of AA. Literally a whole month. It gets better over time. If you just mean normal going out it’s the same. Focus on stepping out of your comfort zone and talking to everyone - even if you don’t succeed at making friends or whatever at least you learned about the unknown in the social landscape.
/r/seduction14/10/20 02:49 AM
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Have approached at the gym. It’s fine. Wave at her or walk up. Don’t waste her time, just open with why you noticed her and ask respectfully if she’s single (or some variant of this).
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:59 PM
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You can become that man. Personalities are trainable. If I put you in the matrix and just had you do social interaction for a year straight, you would get good. What’s stopping you from doing that in your life?
/r/seduction13/10/20 04:09 PM
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Fair yeah. My numbers look like 1/3 boyfriend, 1/3 no (like they left or just refused for a non bf reason. Might’ve had a bf too!), and 1/3 number. So that’s actually around 1/2 from girls who at least don’t directly say they have bf. The real killer imo is the number to date percentage, but I’ve been remedying that w better connection/tension building in set and more discussing date logistics in set. Seems to be working. Good luck man! Hope you find a best girl.
/r/seduction13/10/20 02:26 PM
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I think daygame would help you. You don't always need to be approaching women - talk to guys and street performers and whatnot. Hell, I coached a mentally disabled guy who does magic tricks on the sidewalk how to ask for money better. I pushed a homeless disabled women in a wheelchair six blocks and learned about her life and put her on a toilet seat because she couldn't do it herself. I danced in the street with a saxaphone street performer and gathered a crowd. Random shit like that just gives…
/r/seduction13/10/20 03:42 AM
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That sounds good! Any analysis on quality of the women? Subjective is fine.
/r/seduction13/10/20 03:18 AM
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It’s ok to be picky bro. Idk if I’m quite at your level but have my fair share of approach abundance. I have like 2 girls I’ve met in the past four years that I’d seriously date no question. I’m ok with this kind of rate. I’ll just keep sifting until I find another one.
/r/seduction13/10/20 12:00 AM
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Let’s not talk about numbers or dates. Do most of your sets seem happy that you came to talk to them? Like she says wow I really respect your confidence and you seem cool, but I’m going to have to decline. Or if she doesn’t directly say that, she at least signals it.
/r/seduction12/10/20 04:57 PM
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Bro I’m jealous as fk it took me a year of learning game to get anywhere. I still haven’t had a girl throw herself at me like that. Would be nice. Meet up with her! She’s clearly down to show you the way so just follow her lead.
/r/seduction11/10/20 10:09 PM
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Am male. I’m saying that high vulnerability works well for me with a subset of women.
/r/seduction11/10/20 07:50 AM
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I personally like heavy vulnerability style of game, but I don’t think it works well for women in general. Works well on a subsection of women that I like.
/r/seduction11/10/20 04:24 AM
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Agree closing is easy as long as the mid convo was good. I’ve been focusing more recently on scheduling dates on the spot, or at least asking for availability then and there. Decreases girls who text but don’t set dates and sometimes you can fully schedule the date right there in person.
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:47 PM
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Got two dates in an hour and a half yesterday off of daygame. Granted this is higher than my usual success rate, but I support it as a happy and wholesome way to meet partners.
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:45 PM
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Not every set will be high interest like the ones here. If they are it’s relatively simple to just hold a convo and set up a date. The worst are times where the girl just goes uhh.. I have to leave. Like the day before yesterday I approached a girl who was resting after a run. She just said I think I’m gonna go and start jogging away, which made me feel like a serial killer or something. As I approach more I’ve seen harsh blowouts happen less and less. Now it’s around one in 30 approaches about,…
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:41 PM
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Haha yeah I’m dealing w that rn. Lots of dates where girls think I’m like 10 years older than I am, then get a lil weird when say how young I am. It is what it is.
/r/seduction10/10/20 04:23 PM
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Good work. Do you care about age specifically? For me I approach anyone as long as I find them attractive. 30+ is fine. It’s just a ring on her finger that will stop me.
/r/seduction10/10/20 09:42 AM
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I agree the mid game process is the hardest part. Been taking steps there and finally seeing results. Thanks for posting.
/r/seduction10/10/20 07:36 AM
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Get ready for a novel cause results today blew my socks off. Starting my approach sess I go to the seaside area where I usually go. It started slow. My first possible set was two model looking blondes taking pictures of each other on the side walk near the ocean. I walked straight past them ;_;. Partially my discomfort with size 2+ sets and they were attracting a lot of attention bc of how hot they were and their posing. Cars were literally beeping at them as they drove by. I go ok fuck the seas…
/r/seduction10/10/20 05:38 AM
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Hype bro. Be ready to take Ls, but remember that in general, approaching women is like this - a happy and spontaneous connection. If you keep that frame in mind you’ll go far. Brb I all nightered mfkin playing a rogue like game but I’m about to get my sleepy ass out there to do some approaches.
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:00 AM
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Keep going!! Success repeats.
/r/seduction09/10/20 11:57 PM
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This is great. Have seen customer reps do this to me. Unfortunately you don’t just get to go for it, but this seems like a great way to practice your subtlety in game.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:37 PM
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Why is cold approach bad? I use old and it works fine, but thru cold approach I can get dates with women who definitely wouldn’t swipe on me if they were on tinder.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:34 PM
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Hype. Confidence comes from putting in the effort and seeing results come out of it. Maybe you want to join the cold approach crew? And then you can really be balling ;)
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:32 PM
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Agreed. I’m similar but with dance groups.
/r/seduction08/10/20 09:40 PM
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My favorite are networking events and case competitions or the like. Dance classes are also good. Do whatever fits your life though. I’ve danced for long enough that I can go cheese a beginner class that are usually almost all women. Almost every class I’ll consistently get a girl who talks to me and says I’m really good. Ez street right there.
/r/seduction08/10/20 06:27 PM
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Probably not something you should base your entire game around (say hi instead!), but sounds like fun. I have my own fair share of gimmicks too.
/r/seduction08/10/20 03:56 PM
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No thanks for calling me out for wishy washy terminology. I’d say it’s being able to handle pressure/step out of your comfort zone while looking unfazed and having a clear drive to do well in life.
/r/seduction08/10/20 03:18 PM
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Glad you thought so bro. Maybe for me too honestly. I’m personally both very selfish but also try to hold myself to a high moral standard. I can’t be always helping like this so I kind of just try not to think abt it. Probably am going to think abt how to help ppl truly suffering more and not just my friends around me. For you, just remember that you’re a man of value bc you’re at the very least a good man who is emotionally strong. Women love centered men.
/r/seduction08/10/20 07:25 AM
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You can give value just by your presence, projecting your personality, and making her feel heard. I have a lot of approaches that I don’t get a number or date from, but I still enjoy them bc I have a conversation with her that she comes away feeling good about. I might not have said anything about my job or hobbies or whatever, but she felt listened to. Let me tell you a story. This is going to sound ultra nice guy tm but I pushed an old homeless disabled lady in a wheelchair 6 blocks today. I s…
/r/seduction08/10/20 07:08 AM
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Bro I remember the first time I made out w a girl on the dance floor. Good times. Just remember that this success is repeatable and you’ll go far.
/r/seduction08/10/20 04:17 AM
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shit that's super light? I'm just a let's get ice cream kinda guy. More power to you though I never do those kinda dates.
/r/seduction08/10/20 03:06 AM
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Totally agree. Sales funnel all the way.
/r/seduction08/10/20 03:04 AM
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The general rule is the more effort you are visibly displaying to meet her, the more direct you should go. Personally I like going direct bc I’m intermediate at daygame. With direct, at least you’ll learn. Indirect as someone who’s not advanced is just a recipe to not hook many girls and stunt your growth. Eventually though as you progress it’s more ok to add in indirect.
/r/seduction07/10/20 09:02 PM
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If you don’t feel like you know what ur doing, don’t over complicate it. Just say “hey ___ I’ve thought you were pretty cute for a while. Want to go (ice cream or whatever w me?” That’s if u don’t already really hang out. If you’re already close enough to just ask her out to go somewhere, just do that without direct indicating interest.
/r/seduction07/10/20 08:38 PM
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Trust that you’ll get it in time. I’ve been grinding street approach for almost a month now. 2 plus hours on avg every day. That’s the hardest type imo so it makes other approaches easier.
/r/seduction07/10/20 08:35 PM
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Did my first gym approach last week. Sat next to her at dumbbells, waved at her to catch her attention. Opened with hi, I saw you drop the bar and that made me think damn this girl is confident. So I had to say hi. I’m max. Told her I didn’t want to waste either of our time and we’re in the gym, so r u single? She’s like yeah. So I grabbed her insta. Bantery text convo which unfortunately ended when she said she and her ex are still figuring out whether they want to be together. Idk if that’s le…
/r/seduction07/10/20 06:33 PM
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First, don’t capitalize every word. Second, a skill is less important in and of itself, and more as a signal that you are a driven guy with his shit together. Third, focus on getting to know her and showing interest wo going too overboard. Do not try to impress her.
/r/seduction07/10/20 06:27 PM
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I don't see a reason to approach differently based on race besides maybe the opener. Your calibration to the specific girl should be good enough that race is too blunt of a thing to judge on. Also sounds like a recipe to clutter your brain when it should be most uncluttered.
/r/seduction07/10/20 08:03 AM
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Did some approaches today. the answer is you pretty much don't connect it, esp when you're a beginner. You just open, and then you talk and ask her questions that may or may not be related. My best approach today was with a girl who I kinda jogged to catch up to, then walked next to her for a bit. I opened with "hi!". She looks over. "I've been walking next to you for a bit so I figured I'd say hi. You're cute too. I'm Max." Then I asked her where she was heading - she said going home. I asked h…
/r/seduction07/10/20 07:57 AM
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I generally mirror Juliusjustice. Once you’re strong enough in the dating game then you can become friends with women you pursued romantically but they just weren’t interested.
/r/seduction07/10/20 06:06 AM
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The ballsier the approach, the more direct you go. So something about her clothing/appearance/what she’s doing. Or just you’re cute, I had to say hi.
/r/seduction06/10/20 07:19 PM
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Haha sorry, I mean watching students doing awkward, kinda terrible approaches. It gives you confidence that even though you’re bad at approaching too, everything will be ok. Search up James tusk student approach
/r/seduction06/10/20 01:23 AM
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Theater and poetry are top tier. Go to improv classes or poetry slams/nights.
/r/seduction05/10/20 11:13 PM
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Best resource imo is watching coaches video their students doing ass approaches. It both teaches you skill wise and tells you that doing approaches isn’t so bad. Then you go and do them yourself which is 90% of the battle. James tusk has vids of his students which r good. Todd V for theory stuff.
/r/seduction05/10/20 10:53 PM
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ah sorry bout that. I think your name automatically showed up when I hit reply for some reason. Just deleted it. Yeah that's a good reason! Thanks for sharing about your religious background. Going out and doing cold approaches is still the best way. By doing so you'll slowly internalize that you are bringing value into a girl's life through your compliment, and then ultimately just by your presence. It's hard tho! Feel free to dm me if you want to talk about it. Of course, I don't profess to be…
/r/seduction04/10/20 06:31 AM
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I think ultimately I want a ltr. The thing is my ltr bar is very high. I've had 2 (maybe 3) girls in my past I would date long term no question. I failed with each of them for various reasons, chief being game/social skills. On average it's not even one a year that shows up. So first, sifting through lots of women increases the chance of me finding a gem. Second, doing lots of game (and other getting-my-shit-together) makes me more ready for when that gem appears. In gaming terms I want to do al…
/r/seduction04/10/20 06:07 AM
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lmao I love the enthusiasm. Can't host ya but dm me if you want to talk about whatever or ask me anything.
/r/seduction04/10/20 05:40 AM
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Thanks Nicky! I'm here to give value to men just like I be giving value to women out on the street. That means realistic expectations. My hope for my ratios is 1/3 approach->number, 1/3 number->date. My number ratio is getting there but my date ratio isn't quite.
/r/seduction04/10/20 05:25 AM
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San Francisco!
/r/seduction04/10/20 05:20 AM
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Haha thanks bro. I wrote a whole field report for PotentialCarpet_ in this thread so you can give that a read. I had days where it was just girls who would just step around me. That felt terrible. I do think my vibe has changed bc that barely happens now.
/r/seduction04/10/20 05:02 AM
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Yeah I've been approaching like mad recently. It's been this 2 week immersion of 2 hours a day that has really helped me break past some barriers. I've approached a fair bit before, but over a long period of time. Approaches First set: I see her from far away and my approach alarm rings. Tall blonde girl in a denim jacket. I kinda jog over, then slow to a walk at the light where she's standing. She turns around to look at me, and we make eye contact. I immediately say "hi!". That was kinda new f…
/r/seduction04/10/20 04:36 AM
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Thanks bro. It took me a while to get here but proud to say my last 10ish approaches have all been fun for both of us, even tho there are rejections. My vibe’s finally getting where it should be. You got this too king.
/r/seduction04/10/20 02:45 AM
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Lol don’t call me that yet. One ghosted, one I either mistyped number/fake number. Only have one hot lead rn which has good chance of going to date. She’s the hottest one tbf.
/r/seduction04/10/20 02:13 AM
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Hello I am currently grinding. For the past two weeks I immersed myself in approaching alone. 3+ hours a day every day. I’ve finally hit my stride. Yesterday, I: 1. Got three numbers, one of them my first ever gym approach, 2. Opened one girl in a three set. She was 17, but I sat with the group for like 10 min just to be friendly. Had a great convo. 3. Opened a 40 year old (I couldn’t tell bc sunglasses and mask) but her bod was nice. We had a long convo walking down the street. She told me that…
/r/seduction03/10/20 03:47 PM
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Highly sarcastic is actually decent. If they weren’t interested they’d just ignore you. Be calm and always have a big smile and keep having fun. She may just crack in a few minutes of good vibes.
/r/seduction03/10/20 03:39 PM
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Keep trucking. I’ve done that many a time. Yesterday I got 3 numbers on the way walking to my gym. To be fair that doesn’t usually happen, but approaching eventually can become pretty natural.
/r/seduction03/10/20 03:37 PM
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After second time sleeping with her imo
/r/seduction02/10/20 10:18 PM
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In college, wary of this. Sharpening my daygame sword.
/r/seduction01/10/20 06:41 PM
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I've been to ucla for daygame. Wonderful place. If indirect, sit someplace nearby and comment on something interesting about her. eg "I like your pants! Very blue" (recent opener of mine at usc). Can go even more indirect with just a happy "hi! how's your day?". If more direct, go ballsy and sit next to her and say something like "hey this is random but I think you're cute/love your style it looks great on you."
/r/seduction01/10/20 05:28 AM
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I can feel the emotional roller coaster ride through the screen. Give it one more chance bro, and only one more. She could’ve just been busy.
/r/seduction30/09/20 03:43 PM
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That's a good one I'll keep that in mind. Still though sets w iois seem to be a pretty small subset of all sets that will b good. So it's a nice addition to my game but not the main part.
/r/seduction30/09/20 06:14 AM
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Strong-ish eye contact. Like literally eye contact for over 1 second. That’s enough. If you can get a full smile and stuff that’s basically a “come here!!” sign but I basically never get those. I dislike iois bc they’re hard to act on in a timely manner and are so random. You need to flip the switch instantaneously and go. Something you can do is try to give iois first by looking into her eyes as you pass but it’s very inconsistent.
/r/seduction30/09/20 01:35 AM
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Thanks! Glad to hear you like it. If I had to approach only w iois I’d do like a fifth of the approaches I do now. I don’t have that luxury while I’m working on this skill. To be fair I’m also getting better at noticing iois that lead to good numbers and dates on approach. I also like what u said about depression. Managing your state is real. One day you have a date with a stunner and then a great approach with a model. Another day you can’t find the motivation to say hello to anyone. It’s a pro…
/r/seduction29/09/20 08:38 PM
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Lol I’m in college too. Fair tho a lot of college girls are meh conversationalists. I tend to select for girls who can talk about their passions.
/r/seduction29/09/20 08:30 PM
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Interesting. I’m your opposite - I mainly like dates where I can sit down and just look her in the eye and talk. Once a girl asked to kiss me 20 min into our first date sitting outside a donut shop. Good eye contact, great listening, and light kino r key.
/r/seduction29/09/20 03:42 PM
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I’m simply a trash student of game every day. You got any constructive feedback for me?
/r/seduction28/09/20 09:32 PM
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Let’s just say it’s an aspiration. I’ve come a long way but there’s still a long way to go.
/r/seduction28/09/20 06:54 AM
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Feel that you’re prob right. Guess best way is to just get a bunch of numbers and split them down the middle and test. Ty bro
/r/seduction28/09/20 03:17 AM
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I’ve done the social circle way - it’s def easier. I’ve had times where I lined up a date every day of the week with a different girl mainly from social circle. However, I personally see cold approach as about my freedom and confidence. I just moved to a new city with no good social circle. Am I supposed to just roll over and give up? Dating from social circle makes me dependent on it, and I don’t like that. Also, the girls in my circle have a ceiling to their attractiveness and tend to fall int…
/r/seduction28/09/20 01:06 AM
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Tell her you’d rather b friends and bring her to a group event. I haven’t done this so best I got.
/r/seduction28/09/20 12:56 AM
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It’s possible. You need to build your social skills like your life depends on it, because it literally does. You’ll waste it being sad and alone otherwise. I’ve been building up a social circle in a new city cold approaching without knowing a soul at first. It comes from hard won calibration and social confidence from trying and failing over and over.
/r/seduction27/09/20 10:53 PM
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Agree. I think fun is a catch all trait for social dominance, confidence, and a bit of humor. You need to have all 3.
/r/seduction27/09/20 10:47 PM
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After a cold approach I tend to first send a hello message, she says hi back, then I ask if she’s down to grab tea or food sometime. This works ok w high interest girls, but tends to cause medium/low interest girls to ghost. Do you think that I should make my text sequence longer or keep it as is to improve date conversion? I feel like I’m too blunt but I like the directness and speed of this style.
/r/seduction27/09/20 09:07 PM
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Is this truly necessary? Tbh I dislike text game bc I feel like it distracts me during my daily life. I just want to throw out a meetup and if she’s down she’s down. My hope is that my game could get to the point where text game doesn’t offer anything extra. Hope someone can comment on this :).
/r/seduction27/09/20 08:07 PM
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I think this poll should have more levels. If you daygame your numbers will be absurdly high. Even if you don’t daygame I think 50+ is a pretty low bar if you’re serious about having a decent dating life.
/r/seduction25/09/20 09:31 PM
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I have done quite a lot of this and can speak to it. Building a social circle like this is very doable... if you put in a fuckton of time and think about it every waking moment. Doing it efficiently and booking the majority of your time to grind other things is hard. If there's one tip I have for beginners, learn to command with other people's best interests at heart. Believe that you know better for other people than they do themselves. Guide them towards your vision of who they should be unfli…
/r/seduction25/09/20 06:12 AM
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Have closed service industry women. Generally agree w this.
/r/seduction25/09/20 02:38 AM
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It's helpful. Ideally you build your base confidence through experience rather than having temporary confidence from having options now.
/r/seduction24/09/20 07:52 AM
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My laziness says no but my dick says yes to anything that can increase my %. So I'll give it a go big ty.
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:21 AM
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Girls sometimes say this because they’re nervous and not sure how to continue the convo, so eject. I’ve bulled through her saying “it was nice talking to you” multiple times and gone on dates. Just keep the convo going and ask her about something else. I’d actually say don’t immediately switch to asking for number when she says that - it seems like you’re accepting her dismissal. Talk a bit then ask.
/r/seduction23/09/20 11:16 PM
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I am terrible at text game so I try to cram it all into the set ;_;. Maybe I’ll give that a go. I usually ask her out in my initial text or the message after that. Might be a bit too blunt.
/r/seduction23/09/20 11:12 PM
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Nice nice. Those numbers approximately match mine. I’m trying to increase my date rate rn. I always ask for a meet up first in set and she says yes and then I grab number. Usually we talk about the date for a bit too. Trying to figure out if I can do something about flakes there. Anyways, good luck bro. We doing good over here on west coast and hope East is good too.
/r/seduction23/09/20 11:00 PM
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I’m in California. I have daygamed in both NorCal and SoCal since covid started (n > 40 approaches). No pushback for long convos on approach. I’m currently wrestling with setting date percentage which is why I say maybe date rate lower bc of covid. Granted I actually approached relatively little before covid bc this is something I’ve gotten into fairly recently, so idk if it’s me or covid. I have had dates and more tho, but not too many yet. I think girls are pretty starved for social interactio…
/r/seduction23/09/20 04:56 PM
1

Do cold approach for months and take many Ls until you see results
/r/seduction23/09/20 08:21 AM
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I’ve seen essentially no pushback for cold approaches. Flake rate may be higher bc of virus fear. On the other hand, flakes may even be lower bc of reduced social opportunities for most women. I’m currently in the process of getting data for this but my feeling is things are gucc.
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:46 AM
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After a while in the game truth is stranger than fiction. This seems out there for my reality but it’s not inconceivable.
/r/seduction23/09/20 07:44 AM
1

Have same problem. My verbal date agreement/number rate is really high but so much flaking. There feels like no rhyme or reason too - my best interactions flake and my kinda meh ones don’t. I’m thinking more emotional spiking in set? Like I’ve kind of avoided negging and hardcore push pull but might be useful. I say this bc one of the dates I went on recently was hella banter and negging from both sides and it made us like each other a lot. Then a more recent date was just bland. Really positive…
/r/seduction22/09/20 06:53 PM
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I’m running this balance too. Been balling on cold approach recently and getting lots of verbal date plans, but really flaky on texting. I personally trend more on the side of reinitiating. I’ve seen very interested girls not text back if I leave it to them. My hypothesis is a lack of comfort - she doesn’t want to chase and invest before she feels close to you.
/r/seduction22/09/20 08:00 AM
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I have a feeling you’re an engineering student. I get the need for precision. Yes just ask her about the class, whether she liked it, and go from there.
/r/seduction21/09/20 03:13 PM
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Too formal. A good rule of thumb is the more casual the environment, the more license you have to be direct and not explain yourself. Just go “hi! You caught my eye in class. I’m ____.” Hold a convo for a bit and if it’s decent tell her that she’s cool and ask to hang out sometime.
/r/seduction21/09/20 07:41 AM
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A girl who liked me asked me split an Oreo and lick the cream seductively lol. Legit answer, you can do it with just eye contact and incidental touching. Less on the touch (ie just tap her on elbow or hand) and more on eye contact.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:37 PM
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No you never know 100% until she’s in your bed. And even then? Just assume that she likes you and steadily move things forward.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:34 PM
1

Bro if a girl is teasing you it makes your job easier not harder. The worst thing is a girl who’s neutral and bland. Tease her back lightly - find things to humorously insult her about.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:32 PM
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This is about as good as a first approach can go. Stick with it!
/r/seduction20/09/20 06:43 AM
1

Quality ceiling is higher in day game for both looks and personality. Night game quantity is better.
/r/seduction20/09/20 06:28 AM
2

Take this as motivation to become strong. Dating is a skill. Being a strong man is a skill. Having a great career and an enjoyable life is a skill. Work on it.
/r/seduction19/09/20 05:01 AM
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I’m there with you bro
/r/seduction19/09/20 04:30 AM
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Aye bro just focus on being a man for her. I have a friend in your situation where the girl literally paid for his rent at one point. But he was a man and took care of her during her stressful times. She feels that he does way more in the relationship than she does. You are value.
/r/seduction18/09/20 10:38 PM
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I already find cold approaching women to be a cheat code for me as a guy. For women it just makes them overpowered. I’m all for it tho. I hope every person can find the agency to do go after what they want.
/r/seduction18/09/20 09:39 PM
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Ah I see. Yeah he’s right, but the differences aren’t huge imo.
/r/seduction18/09/20 09:35 PM
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Lmao what does this have to do with the post or my comment?
/r/seduction18/09/20 05:38 PM
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Agreed. Men have agency that women don’t. Maybe that’s a product of society or biology or both. Regardless, I love being a man.
/r/seduction18/09/20 04:35 PM
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It could, with some very specific circumstances that force me to push my imagination.
/r/seduction18/09/20 07:53 AM
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Yeah I’m generally left leaning. My ideology in game is becoming a white knight that actually protects and leads. It’s kind of a homage to my past self who didn’t know what he was doing but just wanted to take care of people.
/r/seduction18/09/20 06:13 AM
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Haha yeah I feel that. I used to be low value and to be needy. Now I’m high(er) value and girls want me. It took a ton of work. Sometimes I wish girls would love me for my past self. The dichotomy between my past and present makes my past self feel almost less human.
/r/seduction18/09/20 06:04 AM
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I like bruh girls better overall. They push my ability to banter and I love it. Maybe I’m just vulnerable to push pull lol. Soft girls are nice too - I can usually dive really deep in conversation with them. Honestly girls are great as long as they’re not bland.
/r/seduction18/09/20 05:39 AM
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Yeah you have to walk that fine line. It's not a huge deal - some idle chatter never hurt anyone. This is kind of important because it trains you to really focus on getting to know the girl instead of ejecting immediately if you can't close.
/r/seduction17/09/20 06:13 PM
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Generally agree with people here to leave as a safe bet. For practice, I’ve been continuing to ask friendly questions after a rude rejection cause I’d like to practice that frame of “being social w strangers is fine”. Ie I say “ok cool I’m not interested anymore. How’s your day?” If she’s still not down then I yeet outta there.
/r/seduction17/09/20 04:12 PM
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Daygame yee
/r/seduction17/09/20 07:47 AM
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Honestly it’s probably a good thing that he didn’t take you on as an employee. Work your charm when you get that beer with him :).
/r/seduction17/09/20 07:42 AM
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Bro I’m in intermediate hell where my variance is extremely high. Today I got a same day date on my very first approach. But other times it’s just shit. I feel like I’m on the threshold to getting consistent daygame results. Gotta keep hauling for another month probably.
/r/seduction17/09/20 04:36 AM
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Deeply listening to her + great eye contact + light touch. Girl asked to kiss me 20 minutes into our date sitting on a busy street bc she "felt an amazing connection". Strongly leading in the interaction. This is kind of an artificial example, but I ran a bunch of dates in the exact same way. Ice cream shop for 15 minutes, walk around for 10 min, and then bring her to bridge over a pond in a park. We'd sit on the bridge together, legs hanging over the water and I'd put my arm around her. I'd ask…
/r/seduction16/09/20 05:51 AM
1

But yes like that (plus all the other things you said).
/r/seduction16/09/20 02:37 AM
2

That’s true. I do love strong initial spark - it feels so romantic. Still, I’d rather not be lazy and let other opportunities slip through my fingers.
/r/seduction15/09/20 07:01 PM
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Women are definitely visual. I'd just argue that they're less so than men. Your point about men in the animal kingdom rings true, but in humans we see that makeup, clothing, and other looks stuff is generally a female focus. I'm basing my argument mainly from personal experience. I don't want to say I've reached true abundance, but having dated a fair number of women and even sometimes multiple at the same time, I started caring less and less about looks as long as she passed a reasonable bar. I…
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:56 AM
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Low value man can date attractive girls. I’ve seen guys who are socially weak and average looking do it. What happens is comfort tends to be very high. Usually the guy still needs something that sets him apart though (ie is into the same things as her or is really good at something that might be nerdy). Often times I find that these guys still have some kind of value tho. They don’t simp bc they’re so into whatever they’re into (math, juggling, even league). However, notice that I said attractiv…
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:33 AM
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Glad you thought so!
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:25 AM
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Idk man game is all about leveraging smaller and smaller spark. It’s also about changing yourself and your situation to get the biggest spark you can. I like to think abt how different women have made me feel in the past. Now that my sample size is kind of large, I can say that there are definitely consistently attractive behaviors that women can show to move my heart. For men I think this is more true, bc women are generally less visual creatures than men. They focus more on behavioral signals.
/r/seduction15/09/20 04:40 AM
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At the beginner level, online forums give you good bang for your buck. Girlschase (google them) got me started way back a few years ago. Once you can get dates with something approaching consistency, getting a coach becomes worth it to really up your output.
/r/seduction14/09/20 04:46 AM
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I’ve always vibed with career oriented women. When I was 18, I fwb’d a 24 year old. Mid 20s women have more to say when I ask them what they want to do and what their passions are.
/r/seduction13/09/20 04:01 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction12/09/20 11:52 PM
2

Grain of truth but needs more nuance.
/r/seduction12/09/20 07:54 PM
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I started out so socially inept I needed to learn how to date literally following step by step. I just kept practicing and four years later I'm a pretty solid natural (from outside glance). Obviously there was a lot of introspection and becoming more true to myself too as I gained social experience. I think your post has merit but it's pretty much the standard outer game vs. inner game debate. The answer imo is both are important.
/r/seduction12/09/20 08:37 AM
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Ok I like this. Now your perspective feels more balanced. Your love with your wife sounds amazing.
/r/seduction12/09/20 08:17 AM
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I definitely agree that you need outer game initially. When I knew nothing all I did was follow rules I had read step by step. However, it's hard for me to fathom of someone who can get by only on training outer game. I feel like your game would lack soul. At least for me, the process of meeting people and practicing game helped me grow as a man through all of the social experience I gained. I'm sure you can get a girlfriend, but are you truly where you want to be in the dating game? I also feel…
/r/seduction12/09/20 08:02 AM
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I think of it less as just blindly coupling together a disqualification and a compliment. It's more keeping the qualification and disqualification meters balanced over the course of a convo. Lmao this sounds like a dating sim. Anyways, on a recent cold approach (me starting): "Hey! I love your dress. It's the most beautiful shade of blue" -> "Haha thanks!" -> "So what are you interested in?" -> "hmmm... shopping ig" -> "shopping huh? That's not the most interesting thing to me, but we can work w…
/r/seduction12/09/20 07:46 AM
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I want to shit on this but this is a very interesting take. Personally I'm very much on the side of having your life together but hey whatever floats your boat. Optimally I think you can do both though - understand what makes people tick but also love yourself.
/r/seduction12/09/20 07:30 AM
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Agree w therock. Learn to escalate, then escalate harder until you reach negative returns. For me, I shortened my time to pull on a date from a few hours to literally 45 minutes and it worked better for me.
/r/seduction12/09/20 05:21 AM
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I mean of course. It’s literally taken years for me to make push pull second nature. Doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have started trying it years back. Outer game and inner game should progress simultaneously.
/r/seduction12/09/20 05:18 AM
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Ty bro
/r/seduction11/09/20 02:03 AM
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Idk a call is not a lot of investment. If he’s mildly interested he’ll say sure. Then you can work your talking magic.
/r/seduction10/09/20 10:18 PM
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It’s going meh. One lay from daygame so far. A few dates. At the same time I’ve been working a ton so hopefully things will pick up.
/r/seduction10/09/20 10:17 PM
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I'm currently doing this experiment. I recently moved to a new city where I don't know anyone and am trying to build a dating life and friend life from scratch. So far it's just been all daygame - I make both friends and dates from that.
/r/seduction10/09/20 08:28 PM
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Take it as motivation to ask out girls faster next time.
/r/seduction10/09/20 08:27 PM
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If you really hate texting you might want to try asking for a call to get to know him or just straight up meet up.
/r/seduction10/09/20 08:26 PM
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In my US city there are people in parks, in grocery stores, and on some streets. I’d imagine nyc is similar? Most people are socially distanced and wearing masks but you can holla at them from 10 feet away.
/r/seduction10/09/20 02:13 AM
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Let her make you more comfortable. It’s all about letting the emotional connection override your nervous logical thoughts. I had the same erection issue the first few times I had sex. I also have trouble getting hard with girls I don’t have a strong emotional connection with, even if I find them physically attractive.
/r/seduction10/09/20 02:10 AM
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Idk man you might be right but I can’t argue with my experience. Going on this seduction journey has drastically improved my dating life. Also, I want to find the girl that best suits me. If I sift through 100 girls a year instead of 10, that increases the chance of finding the right one.
/r/seduction10/09/20 02:07 AM
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I have not been able to crack girls with boyfriends, not for lack of trying. Thanks for the info!
/r/seduction10/09/20 02:02 AM
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Daygame
/r/seduction10/09/20 01:59 AM
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Kino, confidence, leading. It’s hard for me to be confident when I give specifics bc I’m not a woman. So here’s a story instead. I had car sex on my last date kind of without intending to. I had approached a girl, but she was meeting with her guy friend. She invited me to chill with them so we all just got ice cream platonically. A few weeks later, I was in her area so I invited her out for din. I didn’t expect much to come from it bc it was far away from my place and she was living w her parent…
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:28 AM
1

You got a car?
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:09 AM
2

Behavioral game exists for women. As a guy who’s looking for the one and travels to different states sometimes to do so, there are some women who just have it and others who don’t. I’m not going to lie and say that attractiveness doesn’t matter. However, if you’re reasonably attractive, it’s all up to your confidence, passion, humor, and intelligence. Skill in more stereotypical seduction is icing on the cake. Personally, I meet about one girl a year that I would date long term no question, and …
/r/seduction09/09/20 06:08 AM
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I want to be great at everything. For socialization, I want to be social value incarnate. Wherever I walk, I want to bring both men and women into my world and elevate them. Pickup and seduction has useful information to become that man.
/r/seduction09/09/20 01:44 AM
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Personally not a fan of what other guys have said. You can build a kickass career and also get the skills to pursue the girls of your dreams. Is your bottleneck mainly at getting girls to come out? Or is it later in the process?
/r/seduction08/09/20 12:05 AM
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Thanks to rhofire for doing some of the setup work for me. I agree with specific compliments. I use clothing so much I’ve gotten kind of sick of it, but it works. Eg “your skirt is shiny/your mask is an awesome shade of red/your dress is like the ocean/you have great style”. I personally like to exchange a few sentences and ask her about what she does. If she does something I like, I make sure to express it. I usually ask first if she’d want to go for ice cream or boba w me, then ask for contact…
/r/seduction07/09/20 11:46 PM
2

The idea is that you don’t have a strong agenda for the interaction. Your job is to spark the interaction, like lighting a match. You then let the conversation flow wherever it wants to go. At the end, if you found the conversation satisfying, you move things forward. Easier said than done, but that’s the ideal frame.
/r/seduction07/09/20 08:20 AM
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Damn I’m out here pleb approaching girls. You got a real first world problem there lol. To offer advice, you have to realize that you are the value in the interaction. Also, no one is looking at you. When I approach sometimes I almost yell to grab a girl’s attention and people don’t really give a shit. Just ask her questions and learn about her if she’s interesting.
/r/seduction07/09/20 08:15 AM
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This is what I personally did. Daygame. Daygame as much as possible. 20 per week is great. Sure, do bar/street/whatever and vary it up. Building Rapport. Throw yourself out there at events where there's some sort of common experience. Can be a rave, slam poetry meeting, dance classes, networking event, etc. Make it a rule that every time you go you'll say hi to at least a few new people and try to build rapport (doesn't have to be game). This also applies to very large social circles like big co…
/r/seduction07/09/20 07:25 AM
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Bluntly yes, you'd be counted as desperate. It doesn't make you less of a person though - your intentions aren't bad. Here's how I dealt with it, although my situation might not perfectly apply. At the start of college I was also prone to liking girls too fast. I realized that it was because I didn't know what I was doing w girls and didn't have options, so I hauled ass for years to be better w women and get options in my life. After hoeing around for a while it put me on a much better platform …
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:47 AM
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The general rule with oneitis is not to prolong it. Just catch her one day after work and say “hey I’m interested in you and I’d like to take you out for a coffee sometime”. Based on what you’ve written if you try to be smooth you will probably make it worse. I don’t know you though - if you have past experience being a smooth operator in these situations go for it. But otherwise just put it out there straight up.
/r/seduction07/09/20 01:47 AM
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When I was seeing 3 girls at the same time. I moved to a new city and it’s all gone to shit though - in the process of building it back up.
/r/seduction06/09/20 07:48 PM
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An example from my daygame: after she said she liked shopping, I said “shopping’s not the most interesting thing to me but we can work w that... Do you like anything else?” An example from a girl: I dabbed after she sucked me off (don’t ask lmao). She turned away and jokingly said “Max, we’re done. I’m gonna leave right now.” I see breaking rapport as kind of pushing her away. I usually do it jokingly. Some other people can probably add other flavors of breaking rapport maybe in a more serious m…
/r/seduction06/09/20 07:11 PM
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Idk man. To be fair I haven’t had that kind of experience with 5 minute pull and close. On the other hand I like to steadily escalate to the point that the girl is so horny that she’s the one ripping off her clothes and trying to grab my dick.
/r/seduction06/09/20 05:08 PM
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Escalation ladder is a higher percentage way. At the same time, most men need any help escalating they can get, so “just do it” is good advice. God knows I needed it when I first started.
/r/seduction06/09/20 06:05 AM
3

Question’s too broad.
/r/seduction06/09/20 12:38 AM
1

Social circle is like a snowball effect. You start with just a single person - you. By bringing individual social skills and being cool, you can build some initial strong connections. Leverage those and start holding events and gathering people together. Bring together multiple social circles you’re in and be inclusive. I made the mistake at the start of college by focusing on too many weak connections and not many strong connections. That spread my social capital too thin and stopped the snowba…
/r/seduction05/09/20 11:44 PM
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If the university is in a city I highly recommend daygaming outside. It’ll supercharge your in-uni socialization and give you more dating options. Talk to everyone and focus on providing value through your personality, cool events, or connecting them with your other friends.
/r/seduction05/09/20 08:45 PM
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This is most common with asians and indians. Speaking as one, the answer is no. White girls are just as easy to get as any other race. OP, be a champion of diversity. Have girls from all races in your harem ;).
/r/seduction05/09/20 08:29 AM
1

I’ve done this before. Works fine. Just pull out your laptop and put your arm around her to watch something on YouTube.
/r/seduction05/09/20 02:55 AM
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They’ll become drenched by osmosis.
/r/seduction04/09/20 07:27 PM
1

I never drink alcohol even when I go to clubs. Works fine.
/r/seduction04/09/20 07:26 PM
2

If I have value outside the emotions I gave during the cold approach, I’ll hit a girl up after a while. I’m a big fan of networking events for companies bc girls I meet there think oh it’s the cool guy from the goldman thing. For pure cold approach though I think the emotions around who you are tend to fade pretty fast. So I try to move things forward quickly or just let it go.
/r/seduction04/09/20 07:20 PM
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My text game is ass compared to my irl game so I feel you. I’ve been experimenting with value add check ins for girls who haven’t responded. So I’ll send something like “Just came back from dance - I’m sweaty af. Hope your week’s been exciting :)”. That gets me a response off of a ghost, but I can’t confirm if you can leverage that to a date. Still working on it.
/r/seduction04/09/20 06:14 AM
1

Tell her extremely seriously that you do not want to have a relationship and just want to be fwb. I’ve done it - it works fine.
/r/seduction04/09/20 05:26 AM
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Speaking for myself, I’m always happy to get a new fwb. Be available and make your boundaries clear.
/r/seduction04/09/20 03:03 AM
2

Nothing. Just bump her knee with mine. If she’s comfortable I like to just let it sit there. It’s especially fun when you keep the conversation kinda platonic but look deep into her eyes.
/r/seduction03/09/20 11:08 PM
1

If sitting down, gun for sitting at 90 degrees. I like to playfully touch knees under the table.
/r/seduction03/09/20 07:55 PM
1

How do you get choosing signals on Instagram? She likin your photos or what.
/r/seduction03/09/20 07:07 AM
1

It wasn’t quite an approach, but one of the first girls I slept with I sat next to on a bus between cities. I was 18 and she was 24. I applied my shit tier game at the time and by some miracle it worked. You can fully approach strangers in your teenage years.
/r/seduction03/09/20 01:34 AM
2

I’m for real. It’s fun to just fuck around sometimes with zero expectation of making it go well.
/r/seduction02/09/20 06:46 AM
2

I have a backlog of wack things to do during a cold approach. This is going in there. It’ll come after this one: pull some grass from the ground and get down on one knee “I’d like to offer you these oats for your hand in marriage”
/r/seduction02/09/20 06:36 AM
1

Not the most optimal way, but you can just ramble on interesting stories that mildly relate to what she said.
/r/seduction02/09/20 06:22 AM
2

The solution is to have the girl turn sideways so you can look at both at once.
/r/seduction02/09/20 06:17 AM
3

Shiett Mike is great. I’m a younger guy so here’s my perspective. Did 7 approaches over the weekend, got 4 numbers. 1 date set up from that. Am currently seeing a previous girl from a cold approach. Hoping to build a 3 girl rotation soon. I like a loud ‘hey!’ from farther away. Good for covid and gives her more time to gauge you. I don’t rly bother with IOIs, although I really should.
/r/seduction01/09/20 08:31 PM
3

Join me as an ass man and you won’t have this problem. As a wise man once said, tits are just fake asses.
/r/seduction01/09/20 08:12 PM
1

Yeah I got 4 over the weekend. Set up 1 date, 1 ghosted, 1 live far away, 1 turned me down for date.
/r/seduction01/09/20 07:47 PM
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Shiett I’ve rarely had a girl tell me I was attractive. I wear t shirt and jeans and don’t really do my hair. Props I need to learn from you on this. For my cold approach I like to be really big with it. I’ll almost yell “hey!” from like 10-15 feet away. That forces me to follow through with the rest of the set bc I’ve really caught her attention. This is probably suboptimal in a game sense, but it’s worked for me so far.
/r/seduction01/09/20 04:27 PM
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I’m going to mirror what a lot of other guys have said. Go deep on photography. Get a nice camera, build a portfolio of shots, and learn the technical details. Honestly any hobby can be good as long as you’ve clearly gone hard with it and can give her a new experience through your stories about it.
/r/seduction01/09/20 04:11 PM
3

I’d recommend really going deep on one or two skills. A lot of these are pretty passive. Are you good at bowling, pool, or photography? Have you invested a lot of time into them?
/r/seduction01/09/20 03:41 AM
3

Todd V and James Tusk free youtube has been good enough for me to get quite good at daygame.
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:16 AM
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I’m starting from zero in a new city as an experiment. I dress ok (jeans and nice t shirt lol), have the ability to open in daygame, and can hold a conversation. That’s enough for been enough for good day game.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:39 PM
1

Def recommend doing activities with women. But if you have the courage to daygame do that too.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:33 PM
3

Girl asked to kiss me 20 minutes into our first date outside a donut shop, with people walking past on the sidewalk. The confidence was hot.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:30 PM
1

14M? Legit? I’m proud bro you’ll be a slayer. Focus on making good female friends rn. But also don’t hesitate to shoot your shot if there’s an opportunity. It’s all about learning where you are.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:27 PM
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Daygame is legit. I’ve had quite a few dates and lays from it. Whether specific people are legit is going to be up to you to decide on. Generally though, I find most of the coaches are pretty decent and converge towards saying the same things in different language. Personally, I recommend Todd v and James tusk.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:23 PM
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Look, what are good genetics? It's this: Genes that allow you to bang a lot of women. That's the final, end all be all metric. Women want a man whose genes will maximize her number of grandchildren. She wants her male children to have the capability to bang lots of women, and her male grandchildren to do the same. What does that mean for looks? Sure, they're nice, and definitely correlate with having lots of sex. But at the end of the day as long as you fuck a lot it doesn't matter. If you're ab…
/r/seduction31/08/20 04:41 PM
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Gotcha. I don't think your opener was bad - it's all about how you say it and how you follow up in the first minute. I've worked on my in set convo relentlessly through failing at dates and in social circle/social events. I had a pretty weird rep back in school bc people thought I was a player. The funny thing was I was a virgin for a good while but I just talked to literally every girl I saw so people thought that. You'll have to pick out a style for yourself through trial and error. For now ju…
/r/seduction31/08/20 07:37 AM
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There is actually a way. I've started seeing this recently in cold approach as my game has improved. Btw this principle comes from a todd v video you should check that guy out. Basically on the approach, you have to pump your value up above a certain threshold until she thinks "This guy is so high value that he can just go find another girl", even if you are the one approaching. Think about if a girl approached you. If she was really hot that's awesome right? But you'd think "why is this girl ap…
/r/seduction30/08/20 05:54 PM
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Literally never seen anything blatant. I take brief eye contact as a sufficient IOI now, and it's mostly been indicative of actual interest when I go approach.
/r/seduction30/08/20 05:45 PM
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I mostly agree. You should do a variety. Sitting one sets on the street are the easiest for me, but I recently got over the hump for walking sets. I've been forced to do mother daughter a lot bc covid has made all the college age girls go home. I dealt with cashier and store game a while back. It's all about crushing your limiting beliefs through evidence to the contrary. At the same time, this isn't a hard and fast rule. Your game will generalize.
/r/seduction30/08/20 05:40 PM
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I'm gonna disclaimer that my advice is not going to be optimal - some advanced guy will probably pull thru and shit on it. But here's what I got as an intermediate. My number one tip for an absolute beginner is to just go out and relentlessly open. Pushing through approach anxiety and just having conversations with attractive women, even if platonic, is more than good enough. Ask for a number at the end of it. What I'm currently working on is making my open better and more consistent. The two mo…
/r/seduction30/08/20 10:07 AM
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Girls are def wearing masks but I just approach with a mask on. I actually haven't had a girl reject me for the number specifically bc of corona. Def some social distancing pushback when setting up dates though. I sometimes wonder if corona has actually made game easier because of reduced socializing options for women. I know for sure that a lot of girls are settling for boyfriends. I've had a girl tell me as much when I brought her to my place that she "finally gave in to this guy who was badge…
/r/seduction30/08/20 09:46 AM
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Bay Area CA. Usually the downtowns and main areas of cities here. I’ve been trying to work on my day game here, but I’ve been getting massive approach anxiety out of not wanting to make a girl’s life worse by interrupting her day. That’s caused me to somewhat waste like 10 sessions of daygame over a month. The best approaches I’ve had were when I was “in state”, but that’s been a crutch for me. I want to be good at whatever energy level I’m at. The main tweak that I needed was to focus on openin…
/r/seduction30/08/20 07:00 AM
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I have been doing this experiment. Moved to a city about 2 months ago without knowing anyone. I am currently building my rotation through cold approach. It was slower than I expected tbh - I got my first lay this week. Ball’s hella rolling tho now with dates and stuff flooding in. Idk I think it was an inner game thing and I was also hella bogged down in work.
/r/seduction30/08/20 06:12 AM
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Agreed. You need to hammer outer game fundamentals into yourself if you’re starting from zero. I reviewed what a good opening should look like and that helped a ton in today’s daygame sess.
/r/seduction30/08/20 06:08 AM
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Yeah that’s the hard part isn’t? Regardless of what you decide to say, focus on your vibe and confidence in giving her value by going to your place. Imo your exact words don’t matter that much as long as she emotionally reads that value in you.
/r/seduction29/08/20 09:16 AM
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Confident leading. I ran the same date plan like ten times and had around a 50% close rate. It took one hour total. We'd get ice cream. Then I'd bring her out to a park. After kinoing there for a bit and it got dark, I'd say "let's go somewhere else" and go to my place. No real excuse required, just a confident follow me. To be fair, it helped that my place was walking distance. Act as if you're with a guy friend and it just makes sense to go hang out at yours. Easier said than done - it takes a…
/r/seduction29/08/20 08:35 AM
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I have danced in a Victoria’s secrets so this one hit close to home. Nice motivational post.
/r/seduction28/08/20 07:05 PM
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Damn look at you go playa ;)
/r/seduction28/08/20 05:24 PM
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Error 404: seduction not found. We are seduced by big brain here, not big booty. Please try again.
/r/seduction28/08/20 02:49 PM
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Glad to get feedback :). This guy’s asking for a quick and dirty approach here so that’s what I gave him. It’s also all about how you do it. The approach I’m seeing in my head is probably different from the one you or OP sees, even if the words are the same.
/r/seduction26/08/20 11:33 PM
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Hi! I thought you were cute and I had to come say hi. I’m bay. (Shake hand). What’s your name? (She says her name) Gotcha. I actually have to run in a minute bc (whatever). (Then probably do a cold read to start like “Your dress is super green... you’re a tree hugger aren’t you”. Build as much rapport as you can). At your time limit, say ok (girl’s name) I gotta go. What’s your number? We’ll talk and maybe get ice cream sometime.
/r/seduction26/08/20 10:01 PM
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Bro this is great. I recently moved so I lost my old date template that forced me to move fast. Without it my escalation is slower and I mess up more. Good kick in the ass for me.
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:27 AM
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I did get to a point where I still loved the hunt but I was satisfied at my level of abundance. I had a lot of other stuff in my life I had to focus on. Recently tho I left my city behind and went to a new one and started all over again lol.
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:23 AM
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Ah man I reread it and I really did write it like that huh. I think you might get the “find the best woman” bug eventually. I pretty much agree with what other guys have said in this thread as to why. The length of time will vary though. It only took me a few months to feel that I wanted something committal but who knows for you. Everybody’s different.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:47 AM
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It can help at the start. Eventually you’ll want to do it without the alcohol though because it’ll become a mental crutch. You’ll worry that you can’t approach if you haven’t gotten the two shots.
/r/seduction24/08/20 10:19 PM
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They were great, attractive women, but they didn’t meet my bar. Sometimes I wonder if I express more female than male tendencies. I’m very attracted by intelligence, culture, passion, and confidence in women. I also love a deep connection more than anything. So much so that if a woman’s personality is too off I can’t even get hard. Basically I’m kind of in search of my perfect woman, or my waifu/best girl (in cringy anime terms). That’s what drives me more than anything else at the end of the da…
/r/seduction24/08/20 09:49 PM
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Haha it comes and goes. Earlier this year I was seeing 3-5 girls at the same time. It got old so I started trying to find a top tier girl that I could be with long term. More recently, I moved to a new city as an experiment to see if I could drop myself into a new city where I knew no one and be able to create a social and dating network for myself. For various reasons I haven't been able to do that. So now I'm horny again and craving fwbs. Regardless of if I stick with hoeing around or not, hav…
/r/seduction24/08/20 08:53 PM
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Few ways to go about it. Going direct is not bad. Just a "hi! I'm not here to buy anything rn. I just thought you were really damn cute. I'm Max - what's your name?". Then you have to carry a convo for maybe a minute and number close. Basically be more forward with your intentions than most of the guys who kinda just talk to the barista awkwardly for five minutes without making their intentions known. If you're a good conversationalist though, you can go the have fun and get to know her first, t…
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:24 PM
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I’ve succeeded with cashiers and waitresses. They get hit on by a lot of people who beat around the bush. To differentiate yourself from the pack, confident bluntness works well. I’m sure there’s even more optimal ways but that’s what I got.
/r/seduction24/08/20 03:27 PM
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If you be a strong, confident and seductive man it’s totally possible to emotionally override her hang up about your height. To succeed, you can’t let the insecurity about your height get to you at all. Granted tho this is not super high percentage and I’d generally recommend moving on, but it’s doable.
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:02 AM
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I’m kind of the reverse that I only do deeper relationships, but I’ve trouble with shallower connections. For a deep connection, here’s what I have. If the girl is the very caring type, being vulnerable to her will make her want to take care of you (you still need to be overall strong and not clingy/needy). If she’s more self-interested, dig deep into her insecurities and relate to them through your own stories. Ideally you should do both.
/r/seduction23/08/20 09:18 PM
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Idk man this is not very helpful info for why you’re failing. I’d personally recommend blanket bombing. Cold approach a shit ton, use OLD, and ask out literally every girl you find attractive that’s not relevant to your social circle/career. At your stage don’t bother with trying to woo the girl before asking her out. Just talk for a lil bit then ask. You’ll fail a good bit but get some dates (esp if you’re high value enough to have had girlfriends before). Try to accumulate dates close together…
/r/seduction22/08/20 09:44 PM
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I’ve been gaming target so I can def speak to this. Here are things I’ve done: Ask for opinions on clothes if you’re buying any. Mention something on a girl’s shirt. If a girl is doing something interesting (one did like a kinda pirouette in an aisle) seize on that. Direct open that she’s cute or her hair is pink. Talk to her about spatulas or cookware. I would say more about target game but I started going to Trader Joe’s instead. That’s for another post.
/r/seduction22/08/20 09:30 PM
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People are hating bc they envision you as a low value guy trying to pick up girls. Who knows, maybe you are. But that doesn’t matter! Keep connecting with people everywhere and you’ll become that hot, sociable guy you yearn to be. I’m on the path there and many guys have gotten there. The only thing stopping you is yourself. Now comes the hard part though - once you conquer approach anxiety now you need to focus hard on becoming minutely better and more sociable day by day.
/r/seduction22/08/20 06:15 AM
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I’ve done 3 mother/daughter sets in the past month. In one the mom ignored me, in one the mom left when I asked for the girl’s number (what a bro!) and in the last one the mom said “are you actually trying to hit on my daughter in front of me?” You win some you lose some.
/r/seduction21/08/20 07:56 PM
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The blunt answer is to just look her in the eyes and kiss her. The more correct answer is to build a shit ton of sexual tension which makes everything easy. I’m still working on sexual tension though so I’ll leave it to more experienced people to explain that.
/r/seduction21/08/20 03:59 PM
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Ah shit this hit a chord. I’m not really a James Bond, more of a happy leader type. I’ve noticed that women are drawn to the strengths of my personality. Sometimes girls will go “you’re so charismatic” on dates after having seen something I’ve done in a group that’s been well received. It was cool the first few times when I was working on leadership but now it feels a little weird. In some ways, I want a woman who loves me for my teenage flaws. Yes I’ve put blood sweat and tears into the me now …
/r/seduction20/08/20 11:03 PM
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Aye bro this is great. You did have some gifts though. You mentioned you were clever in one of your comments. I honestly think that being smart and able to learn fast is more important than looks or status or whatever. I’m in the same boat - I don’t have much of anything except my brains. Relying on that has taken me far. Appreciate that gift and continue to do great things OP!
/r/seduction20/08/20 09:15 PM
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I’ll speak for myself, but also for a subclass of men who focus hard on their careers and want that in the women they date as well. I love women who are strong willed, willing to step out of their comfort zone, and maybe even a little bit arrogant about the things they’re good at. I also love it when they’re worldly and can talk about books or culture. Haha I just wrote a bunch of stuff and realized this is just me wish listing my ideal woman. Short term actionable advice: be forward but not nee…
/r/seduction19/08/20 11:57 PM
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Hmm the question’s a little unclear. Here’s some advice: focus on giving social value and leadership. Act as if you are already a leader in the group and can lead them towards something that they’ll benefit from. Good ways to provide value are telling good stories, displaying and teaching skills you have (for me that’s dance), leading people to fun activities, and creating space for people’s voices to be heard by you and the group. Obviously this takes practice - it’s not something I can easily …
/r/seduction18/08/20 08:05 AM
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Excel plus gcal is the way to go. How many girls are you seeing though?
/r/seduction17/08/20 07:28 PM
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One way game has helped me is dealing with social circles. I do a lot of group game in field. The skills you use there to keep people interested and quickly gain status within the group can be copy pasted to groups in your social circle or professionally. Do be careful though. Game is generally focused on the initial establishment of yourself in a group. Maintenance of your status and keeping a group moving together towards a common purpose is something that you need to practice separately.
/r/seduction17/08/20 07:09 PM
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Yeah environment def matters. My rule of thumb says that if it’s literally impossible to meet a girl any other way, you take the option you have. I approached recently with a girl outside in a park. Legit jogged like 50m to catch up.
/r/seduction17/08/20 07:07 AM
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I’ve run up besides girls with good results. Sometimes there’s no choice, especially when you see a cutie in a black dress that fits her really well ;).
/r/seduction17/08/20 06:28 AM
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I took me about three years to get to a point where I felt like I had options. The progress was fairly steady, although the beginning was difficult. I could have stopped actively trying to learn seduction here - I was pretty content. The last half year though I’ve been the chasing the goal of being able to get a high quality woman at will. That’s been much harder. There’s been progress but I sort of feel like I’m groping around in the dark again like at the very beginning.
/r/seduction16/08/20 11:31 PM
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I’ve always been a fan of crushing my problems directly. I’ve thrown myself into focusing on chasing girls bc I want to be able to do it without having to somehow trick my brain. It’s worked out decently so far, but definitely isn’t the easiest path.
/r/seduction16/08/20 06:10 AM
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You should be constantly escalating smoothly, with intermittent "is this ok?" check-ins. I like to do a check in when I'm already halfway doing something, like I'm pulling her shirt up a little bit but not all the way. Keep the asks brief and not a big deal.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:36 AM
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GrandMaster, I totally agree. See my comment on the main thread. It's kind of a funny example of what you're saying here. Standards are crucial for sure.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:19 AM
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Ok I have an interesting take on this where I’m the one giving the shit tests as a guy. Story is weird but bear with it. I’m out approaching. I had been dancing earlier w a street performer for dhv and a girl walks up to me and says “hi! I love your dance moves - you’re really out here vibing. What’s your name?” The thing is she looked way too young (I’m in my early 20s). Like maybe 18 at best but prob younger. I’m kinda hesitant w my answers when she asks me about dance and tells me about her o…
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:18 AM
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About to go approach today, thanks for the field reports bro. Staying in set and grabbing attention are hard but seems you got it good.
/r/seduction15/08/20 12:21 AM
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Aye bro I’m a fan of this. Get back in the game asap - there’s a lot of women for us to make happy ;).
/r/seduction14/08/20 07:04 AM
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All these people shitting on him are wrong. This style of game works, and not just on low-hanging fruit either. Obviously there are bad parts. Drop the sleaziness and the aloofness. The arrogance isn't bad though. Let me tell you a story. I'm currently working on cold approach because I think that's ultimately more general as a seduction method, but my bread and butter is working venues where people are loosely connected. This can be a bar, but for me it's more so professional networking events …
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:31 PM
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Aye I am also an engineering student. There is a niche for you. It’s cultured nerd. Essentially, an athletic, well dressed guy who loves engineering but also does a lot of things outside of engineering. For me that’s dance and other cool hobbies. Engineering things can be hard for women to really relate to. You should be able to clearly explain your excitement about it to a layman (or laywoman) and make them excited about it too. I’ve had pretty great success with this. To be fair, I rarely get …
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:35 AM
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Great stuff! I'm struggling to get past intermediate in cold approach. I need all the help I can get for dealing with frame tests.
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:24 AM
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Lol my parents looked at me kinda weird when I told them I did cold approach. They came around though.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:05 AM
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Go up to girls and say “hi, I saw you and thought you were cute. I’m {name}.” until you get sick of it.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:32 AM
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Having the ability to be dropped into a random city where I know no one and be able to build a network of good friends and women who want me.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:28 AM
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This is definitely very biased advice. It’s what worked for me. I want to be great at everything I do, and I’ve achieved a good extent of that. Driving ceaselessly towards greatness was and is the greatest rush of my life.
/r/seduction08/08/20 08:48 AM
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Awesome. Now get rejected a hundred more times. I am currently on my way there myself. You’ll meet some cool girls along the way too as an added bonus.
/r/seduction08/08/20 05:13 AM
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This is the spirit of cold approach for sure. I’m kind of wary about the success rate that he’s pitching tho.
/r/seduction08/08/20 05:11 AM
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Been where you are. As a man you have no choice but to become someone great. Otherwise you’ll be where you are forever. Let that fear drive you to make those approaches and work on your hobbies and do better in your studies. Good luck fam.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:51 PM
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I know myself and schedule things that aren’t mentally intensive when I’m most tired (dance, cold approach, working out, reading for leisure, relationships). Be cognizant that you only have a certain amount of productive hours a day. Use those hours to work intensely and hit your main career related goals out of the park. Read Deep Work by cal Newport for tips on how to use your working hours the best you can.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:48 PM
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Watch "The Graduate".
/r/seduction06/08/20 05:19 PM
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Let this light a fire in you. Become a man that is strong at everything. Physique, fashion, career, hobbies, culture, knowledge, game, and everything else. Above everything else, develop as a person and introspect into your own soul.
/r/seduction06/08/20 05:18 AM
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DM’d
/r/seduction05/08/20 07:32 PM
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This is just about as good as a first cold approach can go. Props and keep going!
/r/seduction05/08/20 06:26 AM
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Bay Area checking in, daygame is fine w/ or w/o mask.
/r/seduction05/08/20 04:41 AM
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Volume approaching. Kind of a humblebrag, but my number close rate is too high, like 2/3. I need to be approaching 10 an hour instead of like 3 really optimal ones.
/r/seduction05/08/20 04:40 AM
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Yeah man go for it. Much easier said than done though - I'm still working on it myself. Caesar mentioned kino. That's very important.
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:07 PM
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Having good logistics makes it trash easy. I’ve lived in a complex where there was a pool and a grill. I’d invite the girl over for a burger at the grill and my apt was literally right there. On the alternative side, I’ve lived in a hotel for a kind of extended period of time and I didn’t have a car, so needed to get the girl into an Uber all the time from the date spot to go home. For that I’d just say hey come check out my place, we can watch (something). Setting up sexual tension is p importa…
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:31 AM
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Don’t have much experience with that tbh. I’m more of a thoughtful connection type guy with good teasing jokes. Maybe try toning it down and see how it does?
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:26 AM
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It’s hard to tell what your issue is w just this info. Can you tell me more about your style? Do you feel like you’re not building up enough comfort and tease too hard? Disclaimer that I am solidly intermediate at this. Not a guru.
/r/seduction03/08/20 10:31 PM
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I kind of have the same problem. For me I’m really busy so I push really hard for her to give me time on my terms. For example, I approached a girl on Saturday. Texted her same day for lunch on Sunday. She proposed Monday, and I said that didn’t work, let’s do Sunday. She didn’t reply. I’m like this bc I’m used to hashing out scheduling over call or in person where I can be kinda harsh w time. Text needs more of a lighter touch that I don’t quite have yet lol.
/r/seduction03/08/20 09:56 PM
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Have done 18M, 24F. It didn’t work out long term tho, we just banged. She ended up finding a nice secure older guy for a LTR. I think there are places where game is great, but this is not really one of those places. Core compatibility for a relationship is something that you just let genuinely flow, and if it’s not right it’s not right.
/r/seduction03/08/20 09:17 PM
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Elaborate on dhvs and negs? My daygame is a lot of teasing, which I guess counts as neg. I don't actively dhv, and am not sure what you mean by it.
/r/seduction03/08/20 06:29 AM
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I like to hash out these kind of things over call. Might work for you.
/r/seduction03/08/20 06:05 AM
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Daygame and crush your fears. Everything becomes easier after.
/r/seduction02/08/20 06:40 PM
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Hey looking stupid is part of the fun. It’s also easy and requires literally no brains. Just rinse and repeat. Being a good dancer helps a ton. Once you get your in-club game on point, you’ll find pulling to be the much harder bottleneck.
/r/seduction02/08/20 04:26 PM
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I’ve actually wanted to do my experiment only by cold approach. Bars and clubs aren’t really my scene. Clubs are pretty easy imo. There’s not really any finesse required, just displays of balls. I usually go up, dance a bit, take her hand, give her a twirl, and escalate. Bars... idk. I’d imagine similar to cold approach but I go to bars so little I can’t say.
/r/seduction02/08/20 08:26 AM
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Make eye contact -> walk straight over and get in her face essentially -> dance while facing her -> put your hand out and see if she takes it -> give her a twirl (ballroom style) -> dance while holding her hand -> take her other hand -> pull her in -> escalate
/r/seduction02/08/20 08:23 AM
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Practice and reflect on loop. Kill your fears by effort. I’m actually running an experiment right now for this. I just moved to a new city. I have no social support network. I want to prove to myself that I can build a social circle and a group of women who want me from scratch, even during covid. It’s going overall well, although there are hiccups.
/r/seduction02/08/20 08:20 AM
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I'd be interested in the answer myself. I've been experimenting with adding more teasing and slowing myself down. Speaking more slowly with a calmer more chill tone and letting her talk more. Something specific that's helped me there is to only speak in complete sentences. I used to kind of let my sentences run together and used filler words. Breaking up my thoughts relaxes me. That relaxation helps me tease her hard and lead the conversation on wild tangents that make it more fun. Honestly thou…
/r/seduction01/08/20 06:42 AM
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It's fine. Wear a mask and keep a decent distance. Wave and speak loudly.
/r/seduction31/07/20 04:50 AM
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Sure, I agree that preselection/social proof are great. What kind of situations are we talking here? Street, bar, club, social circle, or something else?
/r/seduction31/07/20 04:40 AM
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Figure out what happens to you when you feel insecure. When there’s a really hot girl that you makes you worry, do you get really hyper or do you withdraw into your shell and stop talking? Practice the reverse. For me I tend to get too high energy trying to capture attention, so I’m working on low energy chill style. That’s been amazing for my game.
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:30 PM
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I agree with all the benefits you said. Cold approach is amazing for your online, social circle, and event/activity based game. I disagree that it’s just a warmup though. Cold approach on its own is solid. If you’re good 20% date rate is fully possible. Even 3% as you mentioned is not bad. A guy can fully approach 10 girls a week. That’s a new girl every 3 weeks or so.
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:23 PM
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Right. But I mean that feeling of "love at first sight" is actually something that can be built. It's not just god-given. You can become someone that a very high proportion of girls feel that mutual attraction. The end goal isn't that you're just spitting game lines though. It's that you internalize the confidence of your successes and the new man that you've become and put that out genuinely to women. I personally have gone through this process and am still going through it. Essentially, I disa…
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:20 AM
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This is framed poorly and I would disagree. There’s been a girl (multiple actually) where I went hm she’s cute and nothing more when I first saw her. But when she sat down next to me and started talking, I was taken within the first five minutes. If she hadn’t said the things that she said, I definitely wouldn’t have been as into her. At least for me, certain things girls can do and say really are a magic code for me. These girls have actually been an amazing source of learning for my own game.
/r/seduction29/07/20 11:54 PM
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Do it. It works fine.
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:56 PM
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I’m going to go against the grain here. I’ve done this at a pizza shop. The line waited behind me while I grabbed her number. Closed later 1st date.
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:08 AM
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Bruh I am an Asian guy who is def not anywhere near 9/10. Tinder is fine if you get good social pics. If you still have trouble, supplement through activities, social circle, and cold approach. You’ll find your life filled w girls before you know it. This is coming from a guy who didn’t know wtf he was doing 2 years ago and hauled ass to make himself better. Good luck king.
/r/seduction28/07/20 02:35 AM
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I have some experience with this bc I go to a lot of networking events and the like. I’ll meet a girl there and not see her for a year. Facebook and fb messenger is the move imo. I don’t like constant posting, but other people tag me in things gradually over time. It helps the girl remember who I am when I dm her.
/r/seduction27/07/20 04:41 AM
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Yes. I’d say something like: “hope the ____ went well! We should still talk sometime soon - how’s the next few days look for you?” Depends on your vibe tho. I go for secure nice guy vibe cause that’s what I want to be.
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:39 PM
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Just go for it. I’ve gotten a number off a cashier in a few minutes of small talk. I literally held up the line and I wasn’t expecting it to work at all. Closed her later.
/r/seduction25/07/20 03:48 PM
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I agree with the guy that says it’s a culture vibe thing. I notice that I do well with ivy league/ elite school girls for example. Every guy’s going to appeal differently.
/r/seduction21/07/20 10:11 PM
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Get it girl! Find that good dick.
/r/seduction21/07/20 04:38 PM
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For my selfish approacher ass I hope girls never figure out how to get more men to approach. Less competition for me ;). Here’s a tip though: Strong eye contact (like 2-3 sec) and a smile. Also don’t seem in a hurry. Chief concern in a guy’s mind is: am I going to be a weird bother? Try to help them w that.
/r/seduction21/07/20 07:15 AM
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Have cold approached with a mask. Works fine. Speak louder and wave with both arms if needed. If she looks confused if it’s her say “yeah you with the (pink hair, shiny skirt, etc etc”. Strong eye contact and smile with your eyes. Don’t point when getting her attention. Good luck lads.
/r/seduction18/07/20 02:25 AM
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Hey bro quick update. I got back in the game today. Did a few approaches, got a number. Nothing’s changed even w mask. Thanks for the pep talk.
/r/seduction04/07/20 09:35 AM
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Awesome work man, keep crushing it. I'm in CA. Time to get back into harem building ;).
/r/seduction29/06/20 05:21 AM
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Huge moves. Did you do this with a mask on and 6ft away? I've been on a daygame pause and wondering how socially distanced game is.
/r/seduction28/06/20 11:57 AM
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You can. I'd do something like this. Let's say you guys are all sitting in a circle. Sit next to your girl and flirt with her while maintaining engagement with whatever conversation or activity the group is doing. Not blatantly sexual - you'll have to subcommunicate through kino, tonality, teasing, etc. Gradually become more blatant without showing all your cards. You can even put your arm around her while sitting with everyone. Then pull her. If you're feeling very bold do it while the group is…
/r/seduction12/06/20 07:32 AM
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It's good! I'm pretty happy with quantity. Just trying to up quality now. I'm low key looking for the one, although I'm happy to keep things casual. Girls who are that quality come by like once every 1.5 years for me. So I'm trying to focus really hard on inner game, my skills/value, and my vibe. How bout you bro?
/r/seduction06/06/20 04:00 AM
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Bro have you ever been truly desperate? Like not knowing what tf is happening or how to have a proper conversation with women? I've been there. People like that need drastic measures to get out of that hole both psychologically and in reality. It's hard for them to just live their lives normally and date, because for them trying to date is saying a few shy words to a girl they like then being at a loss for words. It's watching their more confident peers work a magic they don't understand. No one…
/r/seduction05/06/20 04:18 PM
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I'll echo that your lingo is a little odd. I feel everything you said though. I'm an engineer at school and I'm already killing myself with classes. I had a rotation of 5 girls at peak and that made me want to die. I agree that 2-3 is optimal, although with my schedule I struggle to even see 1 girl at times haha.
/r/seduction05/06/20 04:03 PM
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The guys here have given you a lot of good advice on soul-searching and introspection. I'd recommend to follow it if you can. It's hard to find your inner confidence though when you're in that hole of neediness and lack of options. I say this. Go out and expose yourself to lots and lots of women. A lot of them won't like you, but some surprisingly cute and hot ones will at least give you the time of the day. You will be forced to face your fears rooted in low self-esteem through action. Obviousl…
/r/seduction05/06/20 03:39 AM
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Congrats bro for starting. There's a whole world of success out there bro. Race ya there ;)
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:10 AM
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Imo I think you two reflect two parts of game. Skill and Social Calibration - kinopua Your Inner Truth - you (myevilalt) You need both. I focused a lot on skills like dominance (#1) at the start of my journey, but now I tend to be more about honoring my own values and being myself (#2). I went through a time when I hurt some girls bc I naturally connect well with people, so girls want me hard after they get to know me. But I was so into improving my skills that I just kept jumping to more girls …
/r/seduction03/06/20 03:55 AM
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Hey bro thanks for your response. Ngl at first I had a bit of the same reaction as myevilalt. But you're saying exactly what I asked for. When I first started game I was really focused on the primal things you mentioned: dominance, sexual authority, and leadership especially. I got those to a decent level, where my natural personality could shine through. After that, I focused more on inner game and going for a playful leader vibe. I really recommend this - I feel like I attract the best kind of…
/r/seduction03/06/20 03:28 AM
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Sure. Looking back, I capitalized a lot on opportunities when I got to naturally meet a lot of new people. So if such an opportunity appears, seize it. However, if you just go to work and home every day, you'll have to make those opportunities. After work, stop by a coffee shop. Order a latte. Go up to the most nonthreatening looking person and say "Hi, can I sit here?". If they say yes (they likely will), then take a seat, and say, "I'm just talking to strangers for fun. I'm _____. How's your d…
/r/seduction02/06/20 05:23 AM
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I'm good with girls I can relate to on thinking about the future and life philosophy, no matter how hot they are. I think my zest for life gets across to them. A lot of girls don't care that much though. So there are elements of my game I need to work on. I think it'll be fixed by more exposure to a wider variety of women so I build up a sense for what they care about.
/r/seduction02/06/20 05:13 AM
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