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"i don't like flakes"
/r/seduction29/04/14 09:13 PM
1

tl;dr OP complains about science when he fails to realize the only scientific method that is important is for him to experiment to find what works for him and what doesn't
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:55 PM
1

Poise Maintaining composure regardless of the situation is important.
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:00 PM
1

Being tall, thin, decent looking, well dressed, and humorous has nothing to do with coming off as gay. It is all in your mannerisms.
/r/seduction03/04/14 08:06 PM
0

I grew up.
/r/seduction03/04/14 05:31 PM
3

then obviously you didn't escalate properly or she is sexually unavailable to you
/r/seduction01/04/14 09:46 PM
4

if you escalate properly and shes sexually available to you then it is not an obstacle
/r/seduction01/04/14 08:10 PM
1

each relationship is different BUT prioritize what you want see what she wants meet where your lives intersect if either one of you is unwilling to do so, you are not meant to be together
/r/seduction01/04/14 06:01 PM
1

shes only here for a month just go for it
/r/seduction31/03/14 11:20 PM
6

hide the penis
/r/seduction24/03/14 09:29 PM
1

Start working out. Work on your wardrobe. If anything to teach/show your kids that you should always be working on yourself no matter what age, and no matter what stage of your life.
/r/seduction20/03/14 05:41 PM
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Own everything You are 34... own it You are a dad... own it It doesn't matter what age the woman is, you have no confidence/acceptance of who you are. No woman is attracted to that. FWIW I'm 29. Not making a ton of money because I'm going back to school. I have no problem having women 20-35 actively trying to be with me. It doesn't hurt that I'm in good shape, have good social skills, and great game. But, all these things are things you can improve. You'll find that attracting women is pretty mu…
/r/seduction19/03/14 05:53 PM
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You are probably 21-22. You have no idea who you are yet. I wouldn't worry about relationships. Just enjoy yourself for now.
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:18 PM
4

never send a text calling out a girl on her responsiveness or lack thereof
/r/seduction13/03/14 11:17 PM
6

Each girl will react differently. Can attractive guys escalate quickly due to their advantage, yes.
/r/seduction13/03/14 07:30 PM
2

you may be someone completely different on the date than the person they met on the street
/r/seduction12/03/14 09:48 PM
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They work on some women. They work on very attractive women. Yes, I would use them.
/r/seduction11/03/14 07:00 PM
6

In most cases women SAY they are good wings. In reality they just usually mean the tell girls "isn't he so cute. he's such a great guy" etc. Yes, it's a DHV. But, don't expect her to take a mother hen, or know when to isolate, or basically do anything beside saying "isn't he cute."
/r/seduction10/03/14 10:59 PM
3

Good advice If I don't hear back, I act like I didn't even send the previous text The worst that could happen is that she doesn't reply, which already happened. The best is that she gets back to you and something gets set up.
/r/seduction06/03/14 07:00 PM
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comfort is part of the seduction process building comfort does not mean seducing
/r/seduction05/03/14 06:51 PM
2

How old are you? Usually with this situation (same with Asian women) that they tend to be "I don't date Indian (Asian), guys" when the women are younger.
/r/seduction27/02/14 12:04 AM
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No, you don't get it. It isn't scheduling aerobics or whatever you call it, if she can't meet. It's called real life. Maybe you deal with a lot of women with more time on their hands. But, there are plenty of women who don't have the luxury of time. I do agree that you should make her meeting with you on your terms, but when time is a premium for both sides, sometimes that can't be possible so scheduling is a must
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:56 AM
1

Get off your high horse. I know what you're saying. Still, making plans is a two way street. What if a woman is a nurse and works at night? You send an invite out to get drinks at night all the time, you really expect her to meet you out? Or what if she is a high end model that is always traveling for work and is booked up like crazy? This is the high end type of women I am talking about.
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:09 AM
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There is a difference between making plans, than asking "when are you available I'll do anything when you are free" You are thinking I am suggesting the latter and jumping to conclusions.
/r/seduction17/02/14 10:46 PM
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The higher the quality woman the more options she has, and the less available time she has. So it is a good choice to plan something. Remember to have a date plan with bouncability, and have control of logistics.
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:40 PM
1

huh? both statements equal the same thing...
/r/seduction13/02/14 08:15 PM
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first you have to accept you are not good with girls the statement I have always struggled with "the friend zone" despite being successful with girls. shows that you are deluded when it comes to your knowledge of seduction now begin studying by using the search and the sidebar
/r/seduction04/02/14 09:42 PM
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I get your view, but couldn't vulnerable also mean allowing yourself to be rejected IE You are unemployed and you tell women that. The women are then impressed by you being so forward. In a meta sense it shows you realize there are some things you can work on to improve your life as a whole
/r/seduction28/01/14 09:52 PM
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you should always be vulnerable but I may be interpreting what Manson meant a different way than you did I took it as you should be honest with yourself at all times, even with women as we know the truth can hurt how did you interpret it?
/r/seduction28/01/14 09:23 PM
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yes, they work mystery method is better most importantly, see if they work for you
/r/seduction28/01/14 06:58 PM
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No, this is referring to the hangout as opposed to a date.
/r/seduction21/01/14 07:56 PM
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although i dont stand behind everything trp stands for, the seduction advice is better in the fact that you dont have to sift through 1000 make me feel good about myself posts
/r/seduction14/01/14 07:29 PM
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whoa hold on the problem can't be her
/r/seduction10/01/14 09:55 PM
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Do yourself a favor Read everything as a whole. Read how people are trying to give you help and suggestions, and read your replies. How do you think you come off?
/r/seduction10/01/14 08:56 PM
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Tone it down in the initial meeting. Yes, it may be intimidating. That doesn't mean you have to be strong, smart, independent all the time. Men don't generally like women who are always trying to prove this, just like women generally don't like a guy that throws around his money and status.
/r/seduction10/01/14 08:34 PM
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Let me explain this way. There are two ways to approach the dating market. Either go for a niche, or go for general and then weed out. This is why some people can use very sexually suggestive lines and still have tons of success. These people are only going for a certain niche. They screen a lot of types of women out, and the ones that are as sexually charged as they are can connect easily. If you were to choose to be dumb, as you said, then the niche you would be going for is the guys that only…
/r/seduction10/01/14 08:27 PM
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Being a know it all is a sign of insecurity. Not actually knowing a lot, but the act of "being a know it all" in terms of always having something to say about everything. Having an opinion on everything. It does add to a person's value as you go further in the learning about each other process, but in the initial stages it can come off as fake and/or annoying. LMK if this is understandable just wrote it quickly
/r/seduction10/01/14 08:15 PM
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Because giving unwarranted advice is not a sign of ego?
/r/seduction10/01/14 07:59 PM
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A bit of a stretch isn't it? Don't you think a very successful man can be broken when he finds out his wife is cheating on him? Can't it be mutually exclusive feelings?
/r/seduction07/01/14 05:55 PM
1

I think you are worrying about it too much. She is having sex with you right? You obviously are good enough for her to keep coming back. Also, you are getting what you want, and you should just keep on having sex with her
/r/seduction07/01/14 05:53 PM
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because people make statements that models is something fresh and new it's not
/r/seduction06/01/14 09:33 PM
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preaching to the choir this used to be a place where techniques/routines were shared
/r/seduction06/01/14 09:31 PM
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those are meta ideas
/r/seduction06/01/14 09:23 PM
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just about everyone even rsd stuff is going on about self improvement, meta ideas
/r/seduction06/01/14 09:21 PM
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you have nothing to lose
/r/seduction06/01/14 08:34 PM
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It's filled with people who don't actually do anything. Even worse, filled with people who don't actually do anything and then look down on those that try to provide some value. Users post guides and routines, and then they are looked down on. But, thats the main reason why most users are even here.
/r/seduction06/01/14 08:21 PM
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you hit the nail on the head most people are beginners or near beginners that read his book it's all been stuff that's been around forever all that innergame stuff is essentially the dating coach cliche "you can't fall in love unless you love yourself" a lot of the actual techniques have been mentioned by (in)famous PUAs it may be framed in a different way, but it isn't new stuff I still think it's a good book but it's not groundbreaking
/r/seduction06/01/14 08:03 PM
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you are missing something ' 'everyone is doing the inner game crap it really has nothing to do with change in techniques it has everything to do with what is selling now inner game stuff is just tony robbins crap, it's nothing new
/r/seduction06/01/14 06:19 PM
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you are insane if you think anything manson says is original all it is is PUA stuff mixed with self esteem motivational stuff that's why so many relate, because they are from a standpoint where they want to improve both their game and self-image nothing is new, not a single damn thing good book though
/r/seduction06/01/14 06:15 PM
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it is a good video more meta than just seduction
/r/seduction03/01/14 08:18 PM
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your view is limiting padawan make the approach, calibrate it's really that simple what's attractive to women is attractive all the time
/r/seduction26/12/13 08:16 PM
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There is no difference in day game and night game. see cute girl, talk to cute girl
/r/seduction26/12/13 06:38 PM
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I'm tall and good looking. I experience many more opportunities with a lot less effort due to that. For instance, women like to orbit around me if they find me attractive. Some screening is already done.
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:09 PM
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start with something innocent like asking them if they've ever kissed a girl then ask if they've kissed each other escalate
/r/seduction16/12/13 11:38 PM
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Take her hand and lead her
/r/seduction13/12/13 10:15 PM
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I'm not exactly with what everyone is saying here. Yes, you should worry about yourself first and foremost. But, that doesn't mean you have to lose a relationship. You can still make time for your close friends. You don't have to devote as much time as you did before, but if these people meant something to you and had an impact in your life, trust me there are still ways to include them in your life.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:20 PM
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preselection
/r/seduction12/12/13 12:07 AM
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I couldn't tell you what your strengths and weaknesses are without knowing you personally. You posed the question "why is my day game weaker than my night game" I think this is a valid question, and with my belief that game is game I felt I wanted to clarify. The same aspects that you can convey that will attract a woman at night will be the same ones that you can convey that will attract a woman during the day. So the key here is knowing how to uplift your positives to the forefront and work on…
/r/seduction11/12/13 09:46 PM
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Don't get defensive there. Game is game. If you are confident, suave, charming, and composed you will be that way all the time. Doesn't matter the venue or time of day. You are overestimating yourself.
/r/seduction11/12/13 08:42 PM
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There is no difference between the two. Your game isn't as good as you think it is.
/r/seduction11/12/13 08:06 PM
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having a gaggle of girls publicly swoon over you or a private jet
/r/seduction06/12/13 06:23 PM
0

whoa... you don't even know about cat string theory?
/r/seduction05/12/13 07:21 PM
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I don't get why people are downvoting... I am with you on this one.
/r/seduction04/12/13 10:55 PM
3

If kissing girls is your goal...
/r/seduction04/12/13 07:38 PM
2

no, being passive aggressive is beta
/r/seduction03/12/13 08:37 PM
4

Depends on the situation. On a date call them out, it's rude behavior. Picking them up; you aren't interesting enough.
/r/seduction03/12/13 06:07 PM
0

Quasi correct Abundance mentality is gained when actually having an abundance of women that are invested in you. Just meeting women does very little for achieving true abundance mentality.
/r/seduction02/12/13 11:04 PM
2

This sounds like a conversation we would have on a date/ time to get to know each other better/ whatever you use instead of date if you are afraid to use the term date.
/r/seduction02/12/13 11:01 PM
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realize that in your life no one gives a shit about you you are probably under 25
/r/seduction27/11/13 06:19 PM
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NO
/r/seduction26/11/13 08:22 PM
1

I do this primarily now. I say hey get my number, and tell them to text me their name. I make sure they know it's because I want to take them out. If they don't text back, or say their phone is dead and don't offer their number they aren't interested. Saves me time
/r/seduction22/11/13 07:55 PM
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if you are tired of hearing the same thing over and over you are definitely on the wrong sub
/r/seduction19/11/13 10:52 PM
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I don't know why people are giving you hate. They don't have to agree with it; but it can be something that if used correctly and with the right women, be successful. I personally don't use your game, but I do appreciate the fact that you are bringing something more than innergame stuff that this sub has become.
/r/seduction19/11/13 10:50 PM
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You are getting worked up for nothing. He is a selfish prick, and not really your friend. Stop caring about someone that doesnt care about you.
/r/seduction19/11/13 08:24 PM
5

my favorite grab her and kiss her
/r/seduction14/11/13 07:58 PM
1

mfer is funny as hell
/r/seduction13/11/13 11:20 PM
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agreed, the term creepy is thrown around too easily
/r/seduction13/11/13 06:14 PM
2

practice in the mirror take a class
/r/seduction11/11/13 09:06 PM
1

I don't have facebook the people that truly care about me, text or call me edit: i love how im getting downvoted when all I am doing is sharing my experience
/r/seduction11/11/13 08:35 PM
2

the questions you ask are more important than the topic don't ask how was your day, ask anybody ask for a crazy haircut? whats the craziest style you have ever been asked to do...
/r/seduction07/11/13 08:34 PM
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or she can be a nurse or something and work sunday-thursday how dare she have a respectable job
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:17 PM
5

Have you tried talking to your parents seriously about having a sex life?
/r/seduction05/11/13 07:06 PM
1

your last sentence answers everything
/r/seduction04/11/13 11:01 PM
6

Going along with why women's advice on what works is not always correct is: they know what works on them, sample size of 1
/r/seduction29/10/13 06:33 PM
2

no one is going to fight in that situation hes describing and it doesn't make him look like a douchebag if hes doing it to the guy that is always bullying him
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:56 PM
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no one is advocating picking a fight or name calling fuck you is not name calling it means, I don't like you even more it says it in a way that allows a person to show they are standing their ground its a very powerful and straight forward statement why do you believe its uncalled for?
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:51 PM
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I never suggested pick a fight. I told him to say 'Fuck you' Are people so sensitive these days that an obvious bully has to be protected
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:48 PM
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"what do ya mean funny?" "like funny, haha" No, I think you are being overly sensitive to the guy that is being a dick. Bullies stand down when they receive equal pressure. This is schoolyard 101
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:40 PM
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He probably won't fight you, if he gets mad your friends will intervene immediately. Especially if he is friends with your friends. You need to let him know that I am not taking your shit anymore. What you are doing right now is allowing yourself to be picked on, and showing everyone else it is okay for people to pick on you.
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:38 PM
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no no no humility and quick wit is passive aggressive behavior OP sounds like someone that allows himself to get picked on all the time, OP needs to learn to have a backbone
/r/seduction24/10/13 10:35 PM
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you actually think he will pick a fight with you? or are you just scared to stand up to a bully?
/r/seduction24/10/13 09:36 PM
3

So girl that has devoted probably less than an hour of thought into you owes you a response? The problem here is your perspective.
/r/seduction24/10/13 09:32 PM
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Do this... Look at him right in the eye, make sure everyone is looking, and then say Fuck You. Don't raise your voice. Just say it as calm as possible, and when he reacts keep calm. The key is to say it as nonchalant as possible.
/r/seduction24/10/13 09:28 PM
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For whatever reason women think lying or leading someone on is less hurtful than the truth. Hilarious, when the most common reply for whats most important in a relationship is honesty.
/r/seduction22/10/13 09:43 PM
1

does it matter what she is thinking if you dont approach her? assume she is into you, then go for it
/r/seduction21/10/13 08:43 PM
0

dont talk about school
/r/seduction21/10/13 08:41 PM
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you are misreading me his problem is that he is having trouble getting alone time with the target, thats why he feels he has to engage both and even get both numbers you can get a good lock in without having to get completely secluded by using this type of body positioning
/r/seduction21/10/13 05:01 PM
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position yourself so the target has her back turned to her friend that way they are still close, but still allows a lock in get only the targets number, why you are getting both is beyond me
/r/seduction18/10/13 10:59 PM
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Here is something that everyone ends up learning at some point in their life. No one gives a shit about you. So go approach...
/r/seduction18/10/13 07:54 PM
1

I'm not looking for circular logic here. Visualize only if it leads to action. You are suggesting to visualize, and not have to make action. Your example is apples to oranges. No matter your action the target will remain the same (in this case a ball going into a hoop, the hoop will still be 10ft tall and 15ft away). When talking to girls there are so many different ways that she can react.
/r/seduction16/10/13 11:48 PM
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Half good, half bad advice It's nothing new, to anything , that visualizing helps. But, to think that it's better than actually getting real experience is stupid. The biggest reason why people don't approach is because they visualize getting rejected and everyone in the room laughing at them.
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:07 PM
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theres a british one?
/r/seduction09/10/13 10:49 PM
1

who do you approach then?
/r/seduction09/10/13 10:48 PM
2

get business cards if you start going out to your 'regular' places and try to get business cards from people that way if you run into them again it would be easy to re-establish a conversation also, playing sports can help a lot pickup basketball helped me
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:23 PM
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you may have some social anxiety disorder...
/r/seduction08/10/13 11:24 PM
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she already believes that she can access you at anytime of her pleasing... that's why she is asking this question she is thinking her time is more valuable than yours whether these things are true or not doesn't matter you already have set a frame of you catering to her, so if you try to change it now it will be "weird" to her and most likely turn her off because of the in-congruence now do you see something wrong with it?
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:12 PM
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you are texting too much
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:21 PM
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go on dates...
/r/seduction30/09/13 10:43 PM
-1

because there is no difference between day game and night game one just has to calibrate accordingly to the target
/r/seduction24/09/13 07:55 PM
1

no, this is where many get this wrong what if the target is out on a girls night? or tired of getting approached? every target needs to be calibrated differently, of course you might have been taught approach the same way, but when you get better you will realize this
/r/seduction24/09/13 05:20 PM
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every approach requires calibration... you calibrate to the target, not to the venue or time of day
/r/seduction24/09/13 05:18 PM
4

There is no difference. It's all about calibration.
/r/seduction23/09/13 07:30 PM
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here is a logical argument: why are you afraid to approach? rejection how do you get over rejection? get used to rejection how do you get used to rejection? get rejected over and over there is no shortcut, getting rejected is the only way
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:00 PM
2

"be quick, but don't hurry" - (paraphrase) John Wooden
/r/seduction16/09/13 11:21 PM
0

You have to develop a style that you will use to seduce women. That style is what will what women will be interested in. Some women love arrogant money throwers, while other like eclectic broke music makers. Wherever you fit in, whatever woman likes what you are they will respond. How do you know they are invested? I think you already know the answer to that.
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:56 PM
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it's not that simple without seeing what you do my best guess is that you aren't getting a girl to invest some might say, set up the date then go for the number close I find this to not matter, if a girl is invested she will make herself available (respond) if it's a quick number grab, then you have to really be the cool mysterious and suave man that she is really interested to get to know if you don't fit that description, or you can't play that way then you have to get her invest during your f…
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:33 PM
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For people working on their approach anxiety just need to talk to many people as possible. You don't have to worry about success. In fact it is better that you don't. Why are you afraid to approach? Because you are afraid of rejection. How do you no longer fear rejection? Get used to rejection.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:01 PM
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I try to set something up within a few days. A lot can happen to a girl emotionally in a few days, not to mention how many other guys she could meet.
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:35 PM
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queue Alannis
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:33 PM
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Depends on the girl: Some girls have the "I can change him" mindset Some girls have the "I wonder why hes so popular" mindset. Go for these girls. If they are turned off for your sexualness, they might not like you without you having to change yourself. Never change yourself for someone else.
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:15 PM
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if he doesn't take you on date like activities, then hate to break it to you...
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:11 PM
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Your post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said... Theres plenty of discussion of what women are attracted to in Models. These things are touched on already by MM. Hence my opening point is that nothing is new in Models. All the other things about making yourself better, have been touched on in numerous success/self-help/motivation books. Nothing is new in models. The main reason why people gravitate towards it because they are lazy and uninitiated. People haven't read a ton of other thi…
/r/seduction10/09/13 09:30 PM
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aka assume attraction
/r/seduction10/09/13 06:10 PM
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I think the book is good. Nothing is groundbreaking. In terms of the things that women are attracted to, MM explains that in a more succinct way. Everything is he talks about can be found in some other book, related to seduction and some more related to success/motivation books. I think that is why many people find it amazing, its like a neapolitan.
/r/seduction10/09/13 06:07 PM
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First, attractive girls will always have gentleman callers. You runs this risk even if you have time to always communicate with a woman. I don't know much about facebook as I don't have one. But, in terms of texting I will always keep it short. Sometimes I will just say "Hi" Then exchange a few texts back and forth. Then see if she is available. I rarely text girls just to chat. When I say rarely, I mean I text them to get information, mainly "when are you available for us to hang out again."
/r/seduction27/08/13 08:33 PM
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There are times when I don't text girls for a week. These are sometimes the same girls I see maybe once a month. People have lives, the older you get the more busy life tends to get. That is probably why dating is harder as you get older, due to time constraints.
/r/seduction27/08/13 07:07 PM
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You are busy and have other things going on in your life. That is attractive in itself. Some of the hottest girls out there are usually crazy busy as well. They have plenty of social options being thrown at them all the time. These woman loathe neediness. Calibrate what type of woman you are dealing with.
/r/seduction27/08/13 04:35 PM
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I think you did a good job... but those weren't necessarily shit tests Those were rejections. I do like that you trolled them a little.
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:01 PM
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This is completely dependent on how much she is invested in you. People act like there is a simple answer to this. If you meet a girl and have a lot of attraction, then you can easily set something up. If you meet someone quickly and grab the number, you most likely have to do a little text game and then find an available time that works. Probably not the answer you are looking for but, it fits without knowing anything else
/r/seduction23/08/13 07:52 PM
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The problem is.... you aren't interesting enough
/r/seduction23/08/13 04:23 PM
1

are you outside and is it sunny?
/r/seduction21/08/13 11:52 PM
2

This is wrong. Let's just take it in the context of seduction. There are plenty of men with high value that absolutely suck socially when it comes to women. The only way to be confident with women is to actually have plenty of interactions with women.
/r/seduction21/08/13 07:46 PM
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You will gain friends from different segments of your life. A friend from one part of your life, doesn't always necessarily have to be close to you throughout your life. That doesn't mean you lose their friendship. It just becomes a different relationship. If your "friends" can't accept you changing, then maybe they weren't really your friends. They are only angry at you for selfish reasons. It's not like you are going out of your way to hurt them.
/r/seduction21/08/13 05:59 PM
1

I've seen you post in OC seddit change your demo, you are looking in all the wrong places
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:58 PM
1

The way you described them as accomplished women... maybe they really aren't looking for relationships. The might want to concentrate on their careers?
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:52 PM
1

So these are girls that are in your circle of friends? If that is the case they have already placed you in a certain category long ago. There may be a way of changing this, but it might be more worth your time and energy trying with new women.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:44 PM
1

Try a different demo? Maybe the girls you are meeting are only ONS kind of girls?
/r/seduction20/08/13 06:58 PM
1

There are very few that are actually good where you can learn from. Rarely do they discuss techniques, you are merely just watching their style. There are few tips and tricks that they do, which you may only pick up on if you have gone to the intermediate to advanced point. Unfortunately, you have to develop your own style. For newbies, I feel that they are a false hope as they make it seem easy (from editing or just a guy that has developed his game). Then they just fall on their face after one…
/r/seduction20/08/13 06:21 PM
1

lmao touche
/r/seduction19/08/13 10:32 PM
5

now commit sodoku? you mean seppuku? don't ninja edit... keep for hilarity
/r/seduction19/08/13 10:12 PM
1

This is why I hate all this innergame BS Yes you can build confidence in other aspects of your life, but that doesn't necessarily translate to confidence with women. My best advice, if you know your city sucks, then move. You friends are giving you selfish advice, they don't want you to move because it would make them lonely.
/r/seduction19/08/13 07:55 PM
4

The Venusian arts stuff works. May I add, the more attractive the girl, the better they work.
/r/seduction16/08/13 11:31 PM
8

you go to the library? spend 20 minutes before going in to game you go to the grocery store? target? whatever? you have time
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:30 PM
3

so much backlash and negativity can be seen already by the replies to this. just showing positivity, people can learn from this, just most aren't even close.
/r/seduction14/08/13 07:52 PM
1

John Wooden books, I mention this all the time.
/r/seduction14/08/13 07:22 PM
3

You should also add about the the Alpha ninja move. He wanted it, he knew she wanted it, he overcame the obstacle, and she couldn't have been more wet because of it. As always love your posts.
/r/seduction14/08/13 07:20 PM
1

Bravo Bravo
/r/seduction13/08/13 11:47 PM
14

Unless they are married I go for it. That relationship is already over. I am sure this will get downvoted...
/r/seduction13/08/13 10:49 PM
-2

You must have better game than him.
/r/seduction12/08/13 08:31 PM
2

I don't hit on them, in fact I usually can isolate or keep 2+ girls occupied. I don't know if it's because my friends target sees that her friends are interested so that makes her interested... I'm just trying to be a good friend lol Also, I don't game girls with my friends. Like I said I tell my friends not to give me help. The cases I talk about is when they want me to go with them. So as a friend I do it.
/r/seduction08/08/13 09:45 PM
29

How you havent learned this about girls is beyond me, but let me break it down for you: Girls are attention whores
/r/seduction08/08/13 09:19 PM
2

I completely and wholeheartedly agree. This also becomes a problem for me when I go out with friends/wings. I tell them not to come into my sets (with multiple women) because they will just be blown out and the women will gravitate towards me. Now, when it comes to women that they want to talk to this is where the problem arises. They gravitate towards me. I want to be a good wingman for my friends, but often times their targets gravitate towards me. I try to take a back seat, but at the same ti…
/r/seduction08/08/13 09:13 PM
1

This is the last stage of seduction. Being that this sub is mainly for beginners, this rarely ever gets touched upon. But, every now and then one will pop up
/r/seduction07/08/13 07:52 PM
1

That's fine. But, my technique is to stimulate a woman's emotions. It creates doubt, it creates interest, it gets the woman thinking about me.
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:10 PM
0

bingo texting isn't used for attraction it's used to stimulate the emotions in one way or the other
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:07 PM
-1

Otherway around. I don't respond to them, act aloof via text.
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:03 PM
-20

But, you are so close minded to think that my method can't work? Get off your high horse
/r/seduction06/08/13 09:44 PM
2

I agree. I think this isn't even necessarily an advanced topic. It's intermediate to advanced. Many people who are caught in this situation that you described, can use this strategy. Unfortunately, most won't even make it past the beginner stages
/r/seduction06/08/13 09:25 PM
-33

So you are telling me that it doesn't work for you? So your sample size is a sample size of 1? I'm not a scientist or anything, but shut up.
/r/seduction06/08/13 09:22 PM
2

I don't get why your post is getting downvotes... There isn't anything that whiteknights would typically get mad at
/r/seduction06/08/13 09:14 PM
0

when you are with the girl in person escalate when you are texting push her away drives women crazy
/r/seduction06/08/13 07:21 PM
2

Can this be a discussion of flash game? I do happen to practice a more subtle/mysterious approach, myself. So I am completely with The Duck on this one.
/r/seduction06/08/13 06:19 PM
1

dance in front of a mirror
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:25 PM
1

No, practice in whatever you want to be confident in. If its with girls, you have to go out and meet girls, interact with them... If it's basketball you have to shoot, dribble, and pass. Same concept. You will miss, but your confidence will grow as you get more practice.
/r/seduction31/07/13 08:00 PM
3

Flash game looks impressive, but not very successful. Just game while the guy is doing a song and dance. Think of him as an obstacle, even if he is your friend, ignore him and escalate. This is actually a good time to escalate IMO, especially when a girl is with her friends. If someone is holding court as you say, then there is a good possibility that you can be clear from mother hens.
/r/seduction31/07/13 07:31 PM
6

Canned openers do work, do not listen to people here. Them telling you to act natural is stupid advice, it's the same advice your mom tells you. How people actually think they can give this as advice and not see the hypocrisy is beyond me. The best advice is: don't be afraid to fail Keep on approaching girls. over and over. Use openers you are familiar with. Use them as a crutch. You will develop your game from there. Follow material that you've read. The most important thing is experience. Expe…
/r/seduction31/07/13 07:24 PM
3

No, the theories work. You just appreciate the aspect of growing your self worth. Most just can't differentiate between the two.
/r/seduction31/07/13 05:19 PM
1

Thanks, can't wait for 2 to come out I think it's like looks; you can have all the confidence in the world but it will only get you so far. Confidence is just a feeling that you have when you know you are good at something. It is tangible to the things you do, but how do you get good at something?
/r/seduction31/07/13 05:16 PM
0

Read my entire post for context
/r/seduction31/07/13 05:06 PM
13

Go home Shrek you're drunk.
/r/seduction30/07/13 07:20 PM
1

I concur
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:54 PM
1

Agreed. The reason why guys get trapped in the friendzone is because there is no congruence with their frame. They frame the relationship as a friendly one, then when they FINALLY make their move the girl is all wtfbbq because lack of congruence.
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:48 PM
1

Opposite way around. It's pride that gets in the way of AFCs They don't want to get their pride hurt by rejection so they don't approach. You have to put aside your ego. Innergame BS is just for AFCs to gather together and make each other feel better. It really has nothing to do with "game"
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:45 PM
3

What you are describing is actually called congruence. Frame is the way one may try to convey one's self. IE. The frame is sexual. The man shows congruence with his frame, if he approaches a girl and asks for her number. The man does not show congruence with his frame if he says he will call his mother, but instead uses it as a way to get the girls number. The interactions shown in this video, the frame is friendly but the man then turns out to be sexual. Thus, there is no congruence.
/r/seduction30/07/13 06:39 PM
1

the only good post in this entire thread...
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:03 PM
0

NO you are wrong. The reason why "never buy a girl a drink" was created was because it was used to be a screener. You already screen out all the girls that are just acting interested in drinks. You do not need to buy a girl a drink in order to get her interested. Your statement is in regards to talking to women for a while, meanwhile the OP's statement is in regards to women who ask within the first minute of meeting a guy.
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:02 PM
4

newsflash women don't need to learn to seduce they can, but they don't need to
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:58 PM
2

the noobs think so, thats why there are so many "why isn't she into me" posts
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:57 PM
1

You are just stuck on his word choice and not his actual content. It's better than all the inner game crap that all noobs gravitate towards because they need something to keep them warm at night from going home after getting rejected once.
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:38 PM
1

come with me.... HAIL MARY
/r/seduction30/07/13 04:34 PM
2

try ask seddit
/r/seduction29/07/13 11:31 PM
1

That's one way to throw away money...
/r/seduction29/07/13 10:47 PM
1

Good post detailing certain aspects. I personally tie aspects of my game with machiaveelianism. Mainly I find it that it stimulates women emotionally. Although, I wouldn't be outright lying I do things that have polarizing effects. The thing about this sub, people don't respect these things for it being "game"
/r/seduction29/07/13 07:59 PM
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You know who sounds exactly like you? Every guy that sucks with women. "I can't approach, but conversation wise I'm good" No, you are only good with women because of circumstance. They already are comfortable with you because of circumstance. Nothing you actually did was successful in attracting women. I only bring this up, because you can create these situations, but still not have any success with women.
/r/seduction29/07/13 05:08 PM
4

Outside of the obvious... Target
/r/seduction26/07/13 07:55 PM
3

There is this horrible misconception that AFCs around here like to perpetuate that the best way to get rid of AA is to take small victories here and there. The best way to get rid of AA is to get blown out and rejected over and over, until it no longer matters. Getting rid of AA is the first step, but the best way to do that is not to think of ways to avoid getting blown out, but to actually be blown out.
/r/seduction26/07/13 07:06 PM
1

For whatever reason anything Greek related gets downvoted here. I think for the same reason people downvote FR's where people have success. They are jealous because other people are getting some.
/r/seduction26/07/13 05:38 PM
3

I go by the rule of: if she's interested in you she will always come back. Now this isn't without some exceptions. If it looks like the guy has some game, I always try to get back into the set before he can make any impact. The thing with this is that 9/10 guys probably won't be able to do so. Initially playing it cool does give off the IDGAF vibe. But, you can lose women to those that are simply better than you.
/r/seduction26/07/13 05:06 PM
57

I'll oblige them. But, I will also call them out by saying something like "Now its your turn to compliment me"
/r/seduction25/07/13 09:20 PM
1

One tip: be tired all the time
/r/seduction25/07/13 09:12 PM
3

I think MM techniques are very effective. Especially for the scorching hot women.
/r/seduction25/07/13 05:07 PM
1

Nope But before you even try you better know how to tell a story. If you are gonna use a story thats packed full of DHVs I would practice it over and over. You will learn which points that give impact, and what parts of the story that you can change/remove
/r/seduction25/07/13 05:04 PM
4

Girls orbit as well.
/r/seduction24/07/13 09:08 PM
1

just get the sofa bed there are plenty of ceiling storage for bedrooms you can look into, google search will help you
/r/seduction24/07/13 07:13 PM
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No I don't think it is necessarily good practice what you are doing because the reason because you are in the mindset "I don't want to fuck her anyways" So you are creating a faux DGAF attitude
/r/seduction23/07/13 11:55 PM
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All these people saying height doesn't matter are all full of shit. Some girls will absolutely not be attracted to you because you are shorter than them. The best advice is: only worry about the women that truly do not mind your height. You are wasting time and energy fussing over the women that worry about height, when you can be concentrating on women that do not care about height.
/r/seduction23/07/13 09:35 PM
1

wrong place go to askseddit
/r/seduction23/07/13 07:04 PM
1

my point about congruence is still valid but now my explanation is: act like a badass, act like a pussy, act like a badass that will come off as fishy to a girl
/r/seduction22/07/13 10:04 PM
2

this is where congruence comes in you can't act like the non-chalant ladies man, and act like a pussy all on the same date IE she sees how nervous you are and the whole kiss thing therefore your takeaway about being too sexual before you qualified yourself is incorrect you never expressed yourself as a sexual being to begin with, so when you all of a sudden ask for a kiss she is all wtfbbq
/r/seduction22/07/13 07:51 PM
2

Let me ask you this.. Do you think what he wrote (about social networking etc) can be helpful to some people? I think so. This is one of the OPs sticking points with this thread. The beginners downvote because they don't comprehend, or haven't gotten to this level yet. This is why there are many that think this sub is going downhill because they are tired of reading the same beginner stuff over and over. There is a small amount of topics that are intermediate to expert level. When anything at th…
/r/seduction19/07/13 07:44 PM
4

So you weren't openminded to it? You are downvoting because it doesn't agree with your morals? You are downvoting it because of the jargon? Basically, you are proving his point.
/r/seduction19/07/13 06:05 PM
4

Is your tone defensive because he is right?
/r/seduction19/07/13 05:48 PM
1

So you got blue balls, of course you are going to feel disappointed
/r/seduction11/07/13 06:01 PM
0

look up traits that mystery defines that women want portray those in your pictures spend very little time on social media actually go out boom
/r/seduction09/07/13 05:14 PM
3

No one is trying to keep them out. This is the internet not some racist country club. If a person wants to become a part of something they adapt and adopt. They go through a learning process if they really want to engulf themselves into whatever it may be. This is for everything in life. You don't want to pick up surfing and then just alienate everyone in the culture by telling them to change their ways to be more mainstream.
/r/seduction08/07/13 11:11 PM
15

You touched on it. It has nothing to do with the language. It has everything to do with the subreddit itself. There will always be people upset with this sub/lifestyle.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:44 PM
18

The only reason why you are in your head is because you haven't faced enough rejection. Once you get over being rejected, over thinking stops.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:41 PM
-1

Other than objectifying women Guess what, you can objectifying women by calling them cute or (wait for it) girls.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:38 PM
2

I do think that using a numbering system is stupid. BUT I do not think something like this should be changed just so people that are "just stopping by" won't get their feelings hurt. Seduction is a sub-culture. Not everything needs to be mainstreamed and politically correct.
/r/seduction08/07/13 10:36 PM
4

Completely agree, most of the naysayers are the ones staying at home not going out.
/r/seduction08/07/13 07:09 PM
1

10 sets a night 1 # close a night go out 3 times a week Do that for a month straight
/r/seduction08/07/13 06:53 PM
3

Golf clap... People need to stop thinking "this can't be true" They need to start thinking "how can I make this happen to me"
/r/seduction08/07/13 06:03 PM
1

You have to read the situation. How many times do I have to say this? But how is that different from night game? A woman may be more sexually charged at night, but that just means you have to work harder. I've kissed closed women in the day plenty of times. Sometimes on the extreme circumstances F-Closed. You can choose to believe or not. I'm not here to argue that. I am making the statement that building attraction remains constant no matter what the time of day, or place for that matter. May y…
/r/seduction05/07/13 10:12 PM
1

Why couldn't you do that? If there is a lot of sexual tension, there is no reason why you can't. It's all about calibration and reading the situation properly. People get worried about day game or night game because they are new. They think that there is a distinct difference, there isn't.
/r/seduction05/07/13 07:04 PM
1

I know what you are saying, and I am disagreeing with you. It is a shit test to some women. If you give an indirect answer and she thinks you are insecure about your job. It's a shit test. If you give a honest answer and doesn't think you make enough money. It's a shit test. If she really doesn't care about your job, it doesn't matter if you act like it's a shit test and deflect the question. Can we put this PC way of thinking to bed already?
/r/seduction03/07/13 08:27 PM
3

Yes, the scenarios are different. But, building attraction is all the same.
/r/seduction03/07/13 08:23 PM
1

This is what you are missing though. How poised you are is an attractive trait. How much money you make (no matter how much we say it isn't) is an attractive trait. If you are not poised, you crumble like a chump. If you are not a lawyer or doctor, you crumble like a chump. Let's not act like economic status doesn't matter to women.
/r/seduction03/07/13 07:59 PM
-2

There is no difference between day game and night game. It just has different scenarios that you encounter, hence it's all about calibration.
/r/seduction03/07/13 07:50 PM
0

agreed, any type of screening or qualifying question is a shit test
/r/seduction03/07/13 05:38 PM
2

cock and balls is a very serious answer the most relevant and most given advice given here is literally "grow a pair"
/r/seduction03/07/13 05:36 PM
1

How many women have you had sex with in this past year?
/r/seduction02/07/13 09:39 PM
3

Get to 1000 sets. My advice doesn't change. Everything gets easier. You get over rejection, you get more numbers frequently, you get more k closes frequently, you get more f closes frequently, you get more SNLs frequently. It's the only way to get good at something like this.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:57 PM
3

So you aren't looking for advice, you are looking just to vent...
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:50 PM
6

You aren't needy for a woman, but you are frustrated by women. I'm tall and have cool hobbies, but no women are attracted to me. None of this advice works, I get jealous when I see and ugly guy with a hot girl. You are needy. You aren't that interesting to women. Different types of game works, the other guys are proof. Just keep on trying until you find something that works for you.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:46 PM
7

You deflected my question. It's obviously a no. So take my advice; there is some adversity, you must battle through it.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:41 PM
7

Have you opened a 1000 sets? It sounds you hit some adversity but are unwilling to battle through it. Don't give up so quickly.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:29 PM
6

Golf clap OP doesn't realize how horribly hypocritical his statements are.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:25 PM
3

60 approaches in 6 months... 10 approaches a month: you need to approach more 40 numbers means absolutely nothing, since it only led to 5 dates: you need to concentrate more on seducing before you get the number. From this it seems you are doing more comfort building than seducing.
/r/seduction01/07/13 07:32 PM
0

Woodenisms Surprisingly, John Wooden's teachings can be very effective when applied to pickup. It's also one of the best books that can be applied to life. Simple teachings for success.
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:53 PM
-8

It's not a pro tip. The reality is that you will get much better looking women at the non-free pools. The majority of women are looking to have fun. Why not have fun with better looking women. Twice a year is not frequent btw.
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:41 PM
2

Literally go anywhere. Most of my best experiences are meeting girls in the hotel lobby. But, it really does depend on where you are staying. If you are staying at a hotel where there is a good club (every hotel has a club and they are not all good), you will get the better looking women. I can't tell you how many times I have gotten SNLs from just hanging out at the bars in/around the hotel lobby/casino areas. But, I usually stay in the higher end hotels. FWIW I go at least 4 times a year for w…
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:34 PM
-7

LOL your pro-tip is to bring a "30 rack" to the pool? Going to the free pools, that is not a pro-tip
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:29 PM
2

This is just a discussion of one of the hypocritical nature of this thing called seduction. "If you care about having sex with women, you have to stop caring" "If you want to have strong Innergame you have to be happy with yourself. But, you should change to be someone who you aren't right now" "Seduction isn't about getting women" IMO it's because everyone is trying to be so politically correct.
/r/seduction28/06/13 05:56 PM
5

Every approach should have the same mindset... Doesn't matter if it's Amber Heard or Jane Seymour
/r/seduction27/06/13 11:36 PM
0

ah saw Mystery capitalized so it is unclear
/r/seduction27/06/13 08:00 PM
1

This is unfair to Mystery. His teachings and tactics have nothing to do with improving oneself. It had everything to do with having sex with women, and the quickest way to do it.
/r/seduction27/06/13 07:53 PM
7

Yea, that goes along the same lines of "I'm a rodeo clown' If the woman is looking for a fun time occupation doesn't matter. Sometimes a woman will ask that just because it's one of those typical questions that everyone is used to asking.
/r/seduction27/06/13 07:51 PM
20

There is a misconception of why the "I'm a rodeo clown (or whatever)," response exists. It is to screen the women who are gold diggers out. It also screens those who may be looking for a relationship. If you are really looking for a partner as opposed to a fun time, then you should be honest and own what you do.
/r/seduction27/06/13 05:53 PM
-2

Actually not random hero. I am talking from experience. Played high school sports, was in a fraternity, then moved into a completely new area for a job without knowing anyone. But, thanks for playing.
/r/seduction26/06/13 11:02 PM
-7

Are you just going to ignore the advice I gave you? I was pointing out the fact that your success in college and high school means nothing now. If you were mature enough you would realize that maybe you weren't so good with women, maybe you need to reread the things you've read. Re-practice the things you learned early on. Can you comprehend that?
/r/seduction26/06/13 08:44 PM
5

For the uninitiated, this is also referred to screening.
/r/seduction26/06/13 07:44 PM
1

Because you are spoon fed situations in where you can succeed. You are put in many different social circles. You are surrounded by women that want to explore their sexuality. You are surrounded by naivety. Don't be so quick to take offense, it shows your youth, I gave you a suggestion take it. The reality is that when you are no longer in school, it is much harder to meet new friends in general not just women.
/r/seduction26/06/13 07:30 PM
9

So you are basing all your success from college and high school? That isn't a very good barometer. My tip for when I go to bars and sarge alone is to pick a high traffic area of the bar. Stay there and completely own the 5 foot radius around you. Talk to everyone that comes by, male or female doesn't matter. Then when women come by into your area, approach them. For me whenever I sarge a lone I don't like to walk around looking for targets. That's when people notice and think you are that creepy…
/r/seduction26/06/13 07:16 PM
1

Learn how much you can drink before you turn red
/r/seduction25/06/13 08:01 PM
1

why bother?
/r/seduction25/06/13 06:30 PM
2

I'm not talking about "Hey young man watch your attitude" I'm talking about "I'm too tired" or "It takes too long" or "It's too far" Do you get it now?
/r/seduction25/06/13 05:01 PM
-5

It's your attitude that is stopping you from meeting women. College made it very easy to interact with women, it put it on a silver platter for you. Now that you actually have to do some work you complain about it. Sorry to introduce you to real life, you may have just graduated college, but out here adults work for things.
/r/seduction24/06/13 09:38 PM
0

It depends on the situation. Situation 1: Both girls are attractive. Open the set, engage both with the thought of seducing both. Let them decide who will get you. Usually their natural competitiveness will make one noticeably available. Situation 2: You are interested in one specific target. Here you must engage both (or all), but only enough to make them both (or all) feel comfortable. Once they both (or all) feel comfortable, then you can start seducing your target. If you fail in making both…
/r/seduction24/06/13 09:08 PM
10

This isn't lost on the community... Most users here are new to this thing so they obsess over something so trivial as an opener.
/r/seduction24/06/13 07:06 PM
1

There are two ways I handle this: If that is the first or second thing she (they) ask, I laugh in there face and say "I don't buy girls I just met drinks." If I'm talking to a girl for a bit, I tell her "I am sure every other guy in this place would love to buy you a drink.'
/r/seduction21/06/13 07:47 PM
2

your hardest obstacle is your first bullet point...
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:04 PM
4

I don't get the purpose of this, can you please explain? Most of the seduction teachings are based off the fact that women allow a small window for men to seduce them. Also, most of the time the communication will be based off of what the woman will allow you. She may love chatting with you via facebook, but that doesn't mean she will let you have her number. In fact you can't even say that there is a "ladder" You can meet a person in a public place, or even in a private place, (higher up on you…
/r/seduction20/06/13 08:03 PM
1

There is only one way to get better...
/r/seduction18/06/13 07:19 PM
1

/r/humanresources
/r/seduction14/06/13 08:00 PM
1

What is the demo of the places you find women?
/r/seduction14/06/13 06:45 PM
7

Best advice... Once I dropped assigning numbers to girls, stopped only interacting with certain girls, etc. I actually started getting better looking girls. Treating EVERYONE the same is very organic, and since better looking women are used to so many men fooling them they are attracted to something organic.
/r/seduction13/06/13 05:52 PM
1

You obviously can't read between the lines FRIEND
/r/seduction12/06/13 07:02 PM
1

Just delete this post... you know the answer friend
/r/seduction12/06/13 06:42 PM
1

Any non verbal communication is huge in all aspects of life. Eye contact, body posture, tonality, etc. There are tons of this stuff here, and everywhere else.
/r/seduction12/06/13 06:02 PM
2

Seduce everyone all the time
/r/seduction12/06/13 05:04 PM
0

Chiropractor: 'I'm gonna need to see you about 3 times a week to get you aligned properly" Me: "I only have time for maybe once a week" Chiropractor: "That's fine, when will you be available" Yea....
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:37 PM
2

bravo people just hating because they are jealous good story
/r/seduction11/06/13 04:45 PM
1

Get the clue She doesn't want a relationship and just wants to have sex
/r/seduction10/06/13 11:12 PM
1

yes, you should frame everything... yes frames are expensive so that just forces you to get actual pieces that are worth framing
/r/seduction10/06/13 09:13 PM
1

Own it. If you own it with confidence, the women will be attracted to that
/r/seduction10/06/13 09:05 PM
2

non verbal communication is just as important as kino IMO there are a lot of articles of non verbals all over the internet in regards to attraction (it's also useful outside of game). if you want to go further there are books to read
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:38 PM
1

you are saying that making a girl attracted to you is more than just getting her number? you don't say
/r/seduction10/06/13 06:13 PM
3

This is just a technique of using props. This has been around forever and it does work.
/r/seduction10/06/13 06:00 PM
2

Who cares what r/seduction thinks? Does it work; yes Is it new; no Most people here will probably be negative towards it. From what I've seen, for whatever reason people are quick to be negative towards routines (or whatever this may be classified as), simply for the fact that they have never tried it. It works and has worked since forever. If you want to use it, go ahead. Don't let r/seduction dictate how you open girls. Most people here are arm-chair quarterbacks.
/r/seduction10/06/13 05:57 PM
2

LOL This type of thing isn't new. Ever see in the movies when girls are hanging out on the beach and all of a sudden a football lands in front of them. Then a cute guy grabs it says hi then all the girls giggle? Yea, not new buddy.
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:49 PM
3

"Sure come over my place"
/r/seduction07/06/13 06:39 PM
5

Wut?
/r/seduction07/06/13 06:24 PM
1

Not just for dating. More people need to look at themselves for problems, instead of always blaming their environment.
/r/seduction06/06/13 08:19 PM
1

Did you read the second part of my comment? Start there, because you don't even know if either one is willing to have sex with you.
/r/seduction04/06/13 11:58 PM
2

So you are trying to replace screening with preselection? Completely eliminate screening just because seddit doesn't have it in the glossary? There are so many terms that seddit does not have. It is not the end all be all to PUA terms. Seddit is just one group of a bigger community.
/r/seduction04/06/13 11:37 PM
2

So you haven't had sex with either of them and you jump to the conclusion you can get a 3some? Basically, what I am saying is you have no clue how sexually comfortable either one is with you.
/r/seduction04/06/13 11:31 PM
2

But, it is exactly that. You have a DHV because you are already screened by the women you are with. Preselection is more akin to a blind date. "You should meet this guy he is cool." The screening has been done by someone else already. That's what basically showing up with women is telling other women. You are trying to make preselection as something that has nothing to do with showing up with women. But, in reality it has everything to do with women. I agree preselection fits in the broader cate…
/r/seduction04/06/13 11:18 PM
2

No what you are defining is called screening. You can't use the definition of one word, to make it the new definition of another word.
/r/seduction04/06/13 09:08 PM
3

I have to disagree. What you are talking about is already defined as screening. Preselection has to do with the fact that the women you are with have already done the screening.
/r/seduction04/06/13 08:58 PM
2

how can you reply to a post so off topic?
/r/seduction04/06/13 08:47 PM
4

this is not the right sub
/r/seduction04/06/13 08:46 PM
5

This probably isn't the right place for this...
/r/seduction04/06/13 08:25 PM
2

She didn't necessarily flake. She never said yes to your invitations Yes, text back. If she doesn't give you a time when she is free, just try to set something up.
/r/seduction04/06/13 08:12 PM
2

Good you pin-pointed your problem. Try more Kino. Search for escalation guides. Quickest way to build comfort in my experience is through touch.
/r/seduction04/06/13 12:05 AM
1

LOL "I just fucked" That isn't rewarding enough for you? You need merit badges?
/r/seduction03/06/13 07:19 PM
4

Your solution is not a solution if it is bugging you. It is a coping mechanism. The real solution: outcome independency
/r/seduction03/06/13 05:16 PM
10

hey its puntingbaxter. it was nice to meet you. "insert inside joke"
/r/seduction02/06/13 08:23 PM
1

when it comes to kissing I live and die by the MMism of "If you think you should kiss her, kiss her"
/r/seduction31/05/13 08:03 PM
3

'is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it"
/r/seduction31/05/13 07:57 PM
9

Women like getting complimented. Women do not like desperation.
/r/seduction31/05/13 07:28 PM
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This is nothing new...
/r/seduction31/05/13 05:38 PM
4

Is this a real question? Also, a lot of dumb replies are being given. This is for everyone: BECAUSE YOUR FRIENDSHIP IS NOT REALLY BASED ON FRIENDSHIP, ITS BASED ON THE FACT YOU WANT TO FUCK HER. IT IS NOT A REAL FRIENDSHIP
/r/seduction31/05/13 05:15 PM
1

Not necessarily. If you have trouble remembering it's not the most effective way. It isn't hard to take out your phone and put in a quick note. If you can remember very well then go ahead and wait. But, that probably means you aren't approaching enough sets a night. You should be approaching at least 10 sets a night, especially when you are learning.
/r/seduction31/05/13 05:11 PM
1

"Give me your number"
/r/seduction30/05/13 06:59 PM
1

Small sample size... Vague description of interactions... We can't help you here buddy as we do not know if it's just a small sample size or something you are doing. Keep on getting as many numbers as you can. Now remember the type of energy and reactions you are getting from the girls that text back.
/r/seduction30/05/13 06:58 PM
1

Everything about this post is completely wrong. Analyzing what you did wrong is important. Only then you can learn what works for you. Yes, every girl is different, but it doesn't really matter about the girl. It matters about how you are presenting yourself. She is buying into you not the other way around.
/r/seduction30/05/13 06:53 PM
12

"hey Kobe how'd you learn to shoot that well?" you know the answer to this question...
/r/seduction29/05/13 11:28 PM
2

like a bag of sand
/r/seduction29/05/13 08:54 PM
1

He literally picked her up and took her off the balcony? And she let him? You sir may have been outplayed. You could have use an AMOG defense but if she wanted to stay with you she would have let it be known in some way...
/r/seduction28/05/13 09:11 PM
1

There is no way for us to tell what you are doing wrong from this post full of vagueness. Most likely the women you are talking to are experiencing the same thing.
/r/seduction28/05/13 08:03 PM
1

Get in a high traffic area and own the 3 foot radius around you. Try to engage everyone that is in that area.
/r/seduction28/05/13 07:59 PM
1

Don't know if you are asking an opinion or promoting a video
/r/seduction28/05/13 07:51 PM
1

Don't know why this is getting downvoted. It seems like a good kino/kiss routine. Most kino routines are pretty rock solid in my experience. Bravo
/r/seduction28/05/13 05:12 PM
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All I am hearing is excuses. What type of man do you want to be? You didn't learn it earlier... excuse You are tired... excuse ADHD... excuse If this is what you want (meaning being a social creature that women want), then you have to go out and earn that status. If you are just going to quit whenever there is a little adversity, you don't want it that bad. So how bad do you want it?
/r/seduction24/05/13 05:03 PM
1

Did you even read his post?
/r/seduction23/05/13 08:39 PM
8

Say this to yourself: "Hey you know what would be better than this... having sex"
/r/seduction23/05/13 08:36 PM
2

or you could wait until summer comes around, ask her on the very last day, figure out the bro shes banging is taking her on a backpacking trip where she will for sure get pregnant, and then sit and cry all summer about how you should have made a move earlier you know why there isn't a guide to in-school approaches.... because it's all the same. approaching is the most insignificant thing that beginners get caught up on
/r/seduction21/05/13 09:10 PM
2

She is interested in you, or at least is somewhat interested. She will give you another opportunity, this time notice it and take your shot. As for now act like nothing happened and proceed as you were before. It can get awkward if you all of a sudden act differently.
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:45 PM
2

LMAO She already asked you to hang out... yet you kept on trying to act too cool for school. You should change your username to shamwow because looks like you dried her up real quick
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:11 PM
1

WTF late 20's is not a cougar... and WTF 3 day rule? oh me oh my
/r/seduction20/05/13 08:47 PM
1

did you feel her up after she vomited? you saw there was a line drawn, and you didn't cross it don't blow it out of proportion, she is probably very embarrassed in fact act like it never happened if she brings it up, just tell her you were getting signals from her but then stopped when you realized she was too drunk
/r/seduction20/05/13 08:45 PM
2

Good post per usual You should add dance floor is for dancing. I see too many guys trying to talk a girl up on the dance floor.
/r/seduction20/05/13 07:37 PM
2

Bravo
/r/seduction20/05/13 07:30 PM
2

You made a move for her. Sorry to tell you but at the point she rejects you any friendly gesture can be seen as further advances. Girls get approached by guys trying to fuck them by being nice all the time. So for her to react that way isn't necessarily your fault it's just conditioning. Do you see it now?
/r/seduction20/05/13 05:06 PM
2

Here is your problem... You might not have seen it as making advances. But, she saw it as you making advances. You are not seeing signs, you are not calibrating correctly. Hell, even everyone who commented on this has told you that she thought you were creepy because you didn't stop. Do you not see this?
/r/seduction16/05/13 07:01 PM
5

You came off as creepy to 7.5 how does this not occur to you. She shared this with 5.5 and that is their nickname for you. So whatever you did, you did it wrong. You probably didn't calibrate the signs when she kept on denying your advances. 7.5 might have just been nice to you since you are a friend of a friend.
/r/seduction15/05/13 11:33 PM
1

He does know whats up. I like how he (at least) seems organic in his monologue. Sometimes when you watch other people's monologues it seems like they are trying to sell you too much. I dunno might just be me.
/r/seduction15/05/13 10:43 PM
2

You are using an awful amount of smilies for someone who hates texting
/r/seduction15/05/13 05:32 PM
1

Good Post I really do think the most important rule is leave your room/house. It is the first step.
/r/seduction15/05/13 05:05 PM
37

I look at my friend and say... "I am no longer your friend because you are a cockblocker"
/r/seduction13/05/13 10:23 PM
2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps But really, just do it. I'm 28 and have had 18-19 year olds (and will continue to do so)
/r/seduction10/05/13 06:13 PM
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I like the write up! Most people are giving you crap about the whole shit test thing because most likely they do not realize that women are constantly shit testing. I like your responses, although I think the listed beta responses aren't really beta just not as alpha as yours.
/r/seduction10/05/13 05:46 PM
3

Always make fun of yourself... no one should ever take themselves too seriously
/r/seduction09/05/13 09:38 PM
1

You see them out... so do you actually care to be friends with them/date them? You should be able to find someone new that is worth dating
/r/seduction09/05/13 06:59 PM
1

You should be bouncing from set to set constantly. Then you choose which one you want to pursue the most.
/r/seduction09/05/13 06:52 PM
1

don't listen to him he either is a troll, or someone played a mean joke on him
/r/seduction09/05/13 06:34 PM
8

No not at all. But like looks can it help? Of course. Girls go to the dance floor to take in the energy and have fun. As long as you are putting out the right energy you don't have to be a good dancer. I see too many guys trying to talk to a girl on the dance floor. Newsflash, she is on the dance floor to dance not talk. You will have success as long as you have fun and dance.
/r/seduction08/05/13 08:53 PM
3

At this point I'd just throw the hail mary. "come over and play"
/r/seduction07/05/13 11:33 PM
0

You want clarification? Ask her for yourself.
/r/seduction07/05/13 11:30 PM
3

The day after a date/ or sarging. Write down things that worked for you and things that didn't. I think most people are trying a lot of things but not necessarily pinpointing the things that need work and/or should be used more. For me I would write small things like "need more kino from outset" Take it as something you are truly trying to get better at. When you are (or were) studying for a big test you know what you're weaknesses are so you would study that more.
/r/seduction07/05/13 08:31 PM
3

Yes they know whats going on. They will play along as long as you are worth playing with.
/r/seduction07/05/13 08:25 PM
2

It's all relative to how you connected with her in the first place. Strong connection = the less you have to worry about those things As always calibrate. Try to go through you text convos (if you havent deleted them all) and see where some situations worked, and where other backfired. This is your evidence, and the best tool for you to use.
/r/seduction07/05/13 08:24 PM
3

I think this show can come back... it just depends on the right channel with male-centric programming. Oh that's right that doesn't exist
/r/seduction07/05/13 08:13 PM
13

All I read: "How can I bee that sleazy guy that waits in the wings for a girl to break up with her man"
/r/seduction03/05/13 07:24 PM
2

If you get mad and quit at every single failure or denial you encounter in life, you will never get anywhere in life.
/r/seduction30/04/13 05:06 PM
1

You guys used each other for something. Usually those relationships don't last too long. Why you are so caught up about this is the real obstacle here.
/r/seduction29/04/13 04:34 PM
4

yes can also be used "the things I'd do to you"
/r/seduction22/04/13 10:41 PM
0

i'm not socially awkward then says My problem is to actually start talking to a girl young man just enjoy your trip do not focus on the women, focus on the things you may never see again in your life
/r/seduction22/04/13 10:04 PM
2

It's a good book, not really one that teaches seduction techniques.
/r/seduction22/04/13 08:56 PM
2

This is actually spot on. But, this can be broken down to: Be Confident. So if you haven't seen this save yourself 7 minutes.
/r/seduction11/04/13 06:26 PM
1

I used this before but here are the IOIs of men http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90qpDg5y7Lo
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:06 PM
6

Yes, and I remind myself to the point it makes me sick. Then I turn it into motivation.
/r/seduction09/04/13 04:36 PM
3

If it's logistically hard to meet up, I'm busy and getting as many day2's as possible, then yes I will send a playful text here and there. The trick is for her to somehow remember you. In fact if I grab a number and know I'll be busy for the next week or two I only send out playful texts. If I get a number on say a wed or thurs night I will send playful texts then end it with a hope you have a nice weekend on friday afternoon. Some girls respond to this well, as it shows I'm not so interested in…
/r/seduction08/04/13 09:49 PM
4

I found tranquility and peace in my isolation through personal improvement. I just cannot accept my humanity. My flaws. My drawbacks. You have no clarity on who you are as a person. Write the things you want in life down. Try to do something that reaches those things every day. The smallest step is still a step.
/r/seduction05/04/13 11:29 PM
1

I only go on a coffee date if I am busy myself. I usually try to set up dates within a week of meeting a person, otherwise the chemistry is usually dead. So if I am busy, and of course the girl is busy as well, and the only time we have is to meet up for coffee. For me coffee is just coffee, I set up a day3 after.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:21 PM
3

Just like your sobriety, you can't count on anyone else. Some of your friends may fail you, but that isn't their fault. You just have to worry about yourself. Learn to go out by yourself.
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:52 PM
1

join a club of any sort
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:06 PM
70

Yes
/r/seduction28/03/13 07:58 PM
5

The most upvoted reply mentions nothing about social proof or pre-selection. This sub has gone to the wolves.
/r/seduction28/03/13 04:48 PM
2

read my responses below
/r/seduction27/03/13 11:15 PM
4

This is a bad habit to get into. What if the guy has more game than you? Then you just lost out on a set. Get what you want, don't let others take a set from you.
/r/seduction27/03/13 10:21 PM
6

If she doesn't know him it's easy I usually try to say "oh you don't know him?" loud enough for him to hear and kind of block him out of the conversation. Then they usually leave, or just stand there awkwardly at this point take the set somewhere else. If she does know him I just introduce myself and talk to the guy for maybe two questions. Then I avert my attention back to the girl and then proceed with blocking him out. Sometimes this doesn't always work. So here is where I try to tell a story…
/r/seduction27/03/13 10:20 PM
7

If it's your friend tell him not to do it, and if he refuses then he isn't your friend. If it's some guy you don't know just ask the girl if she knows him. Then calibrate.
/r/seduction27/03/13 10:08 PM
-1

Fuck all these pussy white knights in here. You owe her nothing. You weren't in a relationship with her. It's not like you guys were married, had kids, a house, pets, etc. Bravo, you don't need to please everyone. One of the biggest things preached in seduction is outcome independence. Well, you acted independent on the outcome. Yet, everyone thinks you are a jackass. Fuck all of them, they probably don't get laid.
/r/seduction27/03/13 05:34 PM
5

WTF He didn't response because he didn't have to. He owes her nothing. Can't believe this is the most upvoted response...
/r/seduction27/03/13 05:31 PM
0

There are absolutely no tips that will help you. Just man up. Does success or rejection change if your friends are there or not?
/r/seduction27/03/13 05:20 PM
1

Why did you quit uni? Do you have no goals or just no inspiration? My suggestion is to travel and open your mind. Sometimes taking in a lot of different cultures can inspire you. It sounds like you need some inspiration in your life.
/r/seduction27/03/13 05:12 PM
2

Stop being a pussy and talk to her after class.
/r/seduction26/03/13 11:59 PM
0

Shut up you have just posted the most horrible advice I have seen on here. People are being themselves and aren't happy with it Fuck seduction for a second A fat guy hates his gut, so he acts like a musclehead until he becomes a musclehead (starts exercising, eating better) That's what fake it til you make it means Now let's talk about that confidence thing. Confidence is almost everything in life. If you don't have the confidence to take a risk you will never get the reward. What kind of pussy …
/r/seduction26/03/13 09:39 PM
1

day 2's almost exclusively try to meet
/r/seduction26/03/13 09:28 PM
1

On your friends not going out all the time: I find myself going out alone more and more now. This is mainly because my friends don't want to as well. But, you can't put your happiness in the hands of your friends. Just like your friends didn't help you hit the gym, didn't help you dress differently, didn't help you open sets, etc. Your friends won't take you to the places you want to be, you will have to get there on your own. On faking it til you make it: You do have a point here. But, it would…
/r/seduction26/03/13 09:03 PM
3

Time: Take every opportunity to open a set. See a cute girl at the grocery store;open. See a cute girl at target; open. I feel tired and don't want to go out a lot of times, but I give myself an 30 minutes a night a couple nights a week going out. You don't have to spend the whole night out. Interest: Why do you care about other guys succeeding? Stop concentrating on other peoples success and concentrate on yours. How do you know you are displaying confidence while talking to girls? Maybe you ar…
/r/seduction26/03/13 06:48 PM
1

You want some advice that can actually help you. You are a pathetic loser. You can continue to be a pathetic loser, or accept you are a loser and accept the challenge to change that.
/r/seduction26/03/13 06:42 PM
3

why are you potentially cockblocking yourself? you live at home, accept and own it.
/r/seduction26/03/13 06:39 PM
1

Essentially the same thing.
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:54 PM
1

Not much. But, it really is dependent on where you live this can have a huge spectrum of answers.
/r/seduction20/03/13 10:27 PM
4

This is what most beginners have trouble with. They focus on the rejection, and forget that it is a learning process.
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:22 PM
1

oh whenever I stay in Vegas for work or play I always set aside one night just to hang out in the lobby/casino
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:13 PM
5

talk to the very next girl you see
/r/seduction15/03/13 07:30 PM
1

ohhh I absolutely love talking to taller girls they tend to be self conscious about their height ask them how tall they are ask them if they like intimidating guys fr being taller then most of them then tell them that you think taller girls are sexy
/r/seduction15/03/13 06:23 PM
1

when in doubt hump it out
/r/seduction15/03/13 05:37 PM
1

ah I see and agree with you preach
/r/seduction11/03/13 09:22 PM
1

Care to elaborate on how a person's behavior does not reflect who they are? Feel free to PM as it probably is going off topic. But, this statement seems interesting. Cheers
/r/seduction11/03/13 05:51 PM
11

I think the biggest thing about shit tests in terms of relationships is: Men get into relationships expecting a woman to stay the same, and women get into relationships expecting to change the man.
/r/seduction10/03/13 10:37 PM
-1

oh great fr! the hilarious ending... the farts... made me laugh so hard, everyone was like wtf in the office
/r/seduction08/03/13 08:47 PM
1

Why do you want to slip past it?
/r/seduction06/03/13 07:04 PM
3

Preach on. For OP's reference both itsmevichet and I are Asian Americans. I have felt what you have felt OP. You can't change everyone's mind. You can however find people that are worth your time and effort.
/r/seduction06/03/13 06:59 PM
31

Are you attracted to close minded bigots? If you aren't then who cares if a girl won't date you because you are black. If you are then it's going to be hard sledding my friend.
/r/seduction06/03/13 06:31 PM
6

You can build on this so it can be more profound... This is an example of how humans are social creatures. Humans will mirror innately. This is getting old school, but this is one thing that Mystery brought to the forefront and is still one of the most longstanding truths of pickup. There are things that humans are hardwired to do, caused by thousands of years of evolution.
/r/seduction05/03/13 10:34 PM
2

Why would you say something is awkward and weird if you have never done it yourself? Especially in the OPs case when the frame is already fun and sexual. You say something doesn't work with absolutely no qualifiers. You haven't even tried to see if it works for you. I can go on, but you are on a high horse and probably too scared to climb down.
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:34 PM
1

Have you tried it? I am guessing you haven't... The frame is already fun and sexual, no need to be on a high horse
/r/seduction28/02/13 09:21 PM
2

I've done it and the naked man. It works. I've used it for ONS girls as well as a hail mary. It has backfired, but hey you win some you lose some
/r/seduction28/02/13 09:18 PM
-11

okay you must be just starting out stop making threads read the sidebar use the search
/r/seduction27/02/13 06:26 PM
3

have a funny story that has DHVs?
/r/seduction27/02/13 06:06 PM
35

You hurt them more doing what you are doing
/r/seduction26/02/13 05:09 PM
0

There isn't a correct answer, there are many plausible answers... semantics schemantics :)
/r/seduction22/02/13 05:46 PM
0

Getting a #close for me is perfectly fine for the places I frequent. There are many people that do not live close, that come to party the places I go. I happen to live really close. Thus, I can say hey give me your number. Then hit them up later in the night. You should be texting right away when you get a number, so if you have the number and she is interested it doesn't necessarily mean the set is dead. I can't tell you how many times "after party at my place" text has worked.
/r/seduction22/02/13 05:45 PM
2

This is where body positioning is key. You can place yourself in between the target and the blocker. Or You can just ask the blocker if you can have one minute with her girlfriend then you will leave them alone. Get the #close, and move on. You don't need much time in a set. In fact I'd rather open a set, move on quickly, and go to other sets. Then if you don't find a better set return to the first set. Or is this answer borderline too? You do realize there is no correct answer. Just options of …
/r/seduction22/02/13 12:48 AM
21

"Oh really? So how long has it been? You guys went to college together? So you must have some interesting stories? Which one of you was the wild and crazy one?"
/r/seduction21/02/13 08:33 PM
1

Ask her out. If she says no, move on. Two things can happen from this: You move on with your life. She chases you, and you get what you want. Either way you win
/r/seduction20/02/13 09:55 PM
1

Stop being a bitch. Ask her out on a date. If she likes you she will say yes. If she doesn't like you she will say no. This coffee thing is not a date. You guys already know each other, she probably has it in her mind that you guys are just going out to catch up. Make your intentions known. This is the biggest mistake you made before, and you even admit this. Yet you want to go back down the same path, but you say you have changed. Do you see why my original post came off as harsh? I see right t…
/r/seduction20/02/13 09:17 PM
1

Do not fool yourself. She never liked you. She just doesn't want to seem like a bitchy girl. Young girls care so much about what other people think about them. It's the world to some young girls. Sometimes, girls never grow out of this even. You got mad at her, and shes thinking "Am I a bad person" not "I think I like him" You guys are 18/19 right? Trust me I am right. Or you can try to pursue this girl and get hurt again, because you were too much of a pussy to move on.
/r/seduction20/02/13 09:00 PM
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You want some real advice that will make you better: You are pathetic. Accept this and you can start your path to a better life. I had to accept that I was a bitch, it was hard to do, but was one of the best things I could have ever done for myself. Sometimes, you just need to hear it because most of the people that surround you are too chicken shit to say something because it's not nice.
/r/seduction20/02/13 08:49 PM
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so theres 5 seconds of infield footage, and theres 5+ minutes of him talking a new title is in order
/r/seduction20/02/13 12:32 AM
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Sounds like fun... As you should know there is always a party somewhere with college kids, so even if you don't f close you should have a fun time
/r/seduction18/02/13 10:43 PM
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What do you have to lose? You are only creepy if she rejects you and you never let it go/ persist on asking.
/r/seduction18/02/13 10:33 PM
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This is the real takeaway... OP isn't making a good first impression. It doesn't matter if it's a person with the bitch-shield up. If you can't give a good first impression to a mother hen, there is little chance you get past her cock-block.
/r/seduction14/02/13 06:55 PM
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Because if you take the right amount of vitamins and minerals that the body needs (most people do not get the daily required amount), and enough rest (most people do not get enough rest) the body will "heal" or replenish itself daily. Giving up a vice doesn't have anything to do with cortisol and his mood. Maybe giving up weed made the OP more productive. Thus making him feel better about himself for accomplishing things. Maybe instead of smoking all night he went to sleep an hour earlier. Maybe…
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:19 PM
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How dare you! You know there is no way in hell he is ready for the right advice! Let him feel the pain, then and only then will he know.
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:12 PM
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Good on you! I don't know if I completely buy what your selling about cortisol and all that, but you wanted to make a change for the better and did it.
/r/seduction12/02/13 08:32 PM
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Sincerity yes.. but I don't see how this has anything to do with innergame. Is this post intended to be a better conversationalist? This has almost nothing to do with seduction or innergame, but it does have everything to do with being a good conversationalist. I guess you may be able to seduce a woman by holding a good conversation, and you kind of use it here. Maybe you would like to clarify more on the aspects of seduction and innergame. This is a great post about holding a conversation. Not …
/r/seduction28/01/13 08:57 PM
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Chris Rock said this, but in a much funnier succinct way...
/r/seduction28/01/13 07:55 PM
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that has nothing to do with my statement. you are not ready for a relationship unless you are ready for your heart to be broken there is risk involved in anything you do if you dont mind risk getting your heartbroken over this girl then she is obviously worth getting in a relationship with you see, it's simple as that
/r/seduction25/01/13 10:46 PM
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Isn't it obvious? If you aren't ready to risk being heartbroken, that means you don't think the relationship is worth it.
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:27 PM
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If you are worried about being heartbroken, you are not ready for a relationship.
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:09 PM
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when in person the rule is "it's not what you say it's how you say it" when texting the rule is "it's not how you say it but what you say"
/r/seduction24/01/13 12:52 AM
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There were 2 girls, but it seems that you only really concentrated on one. 2 suggestions: You need to work on gaming everyone in the set. Once accepted by the entire set it not only gives you value, but it helps derail any cockblock attempts. You should have asked the friend "do you mind if I talk to your friend?" Most likely if she sees her friend has the slightest of interest she will oblige. At this point you don't necessarily have to move locations, you know you at least have a couple of min…
/r/seduction23/01/13 09:28 PM
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I have friends that are girls. BUT two things: I'm not attracted to them I no longer am attracted to them. If there are any sort of sexual tension on my end, I can't work like that. If the girl is attracted to me but wants a platonic relationship, then that's fine with me. That girl is an adult and if she wants to mess around with her emotions when she knows it's not gonna happen that is her fault.
/r/seduction17/01/13 11:11 PM
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You answered your own questions...
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:14 PM
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Sorry man you have to put up with it. You wouldn't want a girl trying to change you right? This sounds like this is just part of her personality, she likes to joke around. You just have to gauge if dealing with this personality quirk is worth it.
/r/seduction11/01/13 07:19 PM
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All I read was: You need new friends. Not saying you have to completely drop these, but ones the understand that you want to meet women, and either will help you out or not get mad if you ditch them for it.
/r/seduction11/01/13 05:54 PM
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No. A good source would be to search "how to deal with cockblocks" Man, woman, doesn't matter. They come in all shapes and sizes. I can't give him a great answer because I wasn't there to calibrate. But, just by going out and talking to people you will encounter blockers all the time. It's all about getting used to different types of defensive personalities and learning how to diffuse them. So basically the more cockblocks you encounter and try to deal with, the more prepared you can be to diffu…
/r/seduction10/01/13 10:58 PM
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You want to know the best way to get good at seduction. SEDUCE EVERYONE You didn't work on winning over the guys. That is where you went wrong. In any set of people you have to win the entire set over in order for you to even have a chance with the target.
/r/seduction10/01/13 10:23 PM
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Depends on where you think you are struggling. Do you try to keep track of where you might be going wrong? Let's go back to my basketball analogy. Pistol Pete in high school had a problem dribbling with his left. So he spent an entire summer only dribbling a basketball with his left hand. Try to be more attentive where you may be losing a girl/set. Ask your wing where you think you went wrong, or places you can improve. At the same time there are nights where all the girls/sets you approach can …
/r/seduction10/01/13 07:41 PM
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It's a part of it. Just keep on going out there. There will be times when you can't keep the woman away from you. There will be times when no girl will look your way. On to the second part: No being attractive will not backfire on you. Anyone who says that probably is using it as an excuse crutch. Think about it... Can being taller hurt a basketball player?
/r/seduction10/01/13 07:21 PM
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I'm with you. OP is too good for everyone else.
/r/seduction10/01/13 05:55 PM
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Of course any thought that doesn't agree with yours is wrong, there is no way anyone else can be right. You really are very different from every other testosterone filled, cocky, invincible, know-it-all 20 year old in the world.
/r/seduction10/01/13 05:53 PM
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You come off as extremely cocky. It's great that you have your own business, and all that other shit no one cares about. Let me break this down simply. You think you are in control, but you aren't. She has your interest, not the other way around, that's why you want a 2nd date. You come here spewing like you know everything. All this other crap you just mentioned no one gives a damn about. You are completely misreading the situation. She was outcome independent, she is acting like she has other …
/r/seduction10/01/13 05:29 PM
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I'm sorry you really are missing the point of the video. He never says that the techniques are bad, he said that they would hide who you really are. He says that techniques work, he clearly says that. He never denies their effectiveness. He states that relationships fail because you live your life as someone you are not. This has nothing to do with the pick up itself. Go ahead and quote the line where he says don't use routines, you can't find that either am I right? So what does he clearly stat…
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:34 PM
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How hot is she? I think you get where I'm going
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:10 PM
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I think you are not understanding the point of the video. The point is not be yourself, the point is use the methods/routines and tailor them to who you are.
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:08 PM
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You might be going after the wrong girls. They might sense you want a relationship, so that's why they call it off. You are sleeping with girls within the first 3 dates. That doesn't necessarily sound like a girl that wants a relationship to me, but one that has fun... you are in college after all.
/r/seduction09/01/13 10:51 PM
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Good video for beginners. Basically the same known things recycled.
/r/seduction09/01/13 07:38 PM
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Is this a job or a career? Job, just do it. Career, stay away.
/r/seduction09/01/13 05:08 PM
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For what? If you are just talking about hooking up and nothing else... Nothing beats Las Vegas. The simple fact that virtually everyone not working on the strip is a visitor it is easy to get that one nighter.
/r/seduction09/01/13 05:04 PM
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Just ask her straight up. "You coming?" You only look needy by the way you react if she rejects you.
/r/seduction09/01/13 05:01 PM
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I mean pros as in hookers... There are tons of hookers out there
/r/seduction09/01/13 12:58 AM
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The reason why there is a $25 all you can drink is because no one goes out until probably 1230 in South Beach. Go to the all you can drink thing, most people attending will probably be travelers just like you. Meet people, have fun. Be careful there are plenty of pros out there (unless that's your thing)
/r/seduction08/01/13 11:39 PM
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Get new friends. For day game help, use the search tool. But, getting new friends is the best advice I can give you.
/r/seduction08/01/13 11:06 PM
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Where are you exactly? If you are close to the clubs/bars I would try the hotel lobby. Many people will be coming and going, especially if you are close to the action.
/r/seduction08/01/13 11:05 PM
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Hated myself... Wanted to stop, so I took initiative. Wish it was as simple as it sounds. But, as I continue to improve myself I appreciate the work I have put in to this point. I appreciate how hard it is to change.
/r/seduction08/01/13 09:25 PM
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This is a perfect case of pre-selection You were already accepted by women in her group, thus making it infinitely easier for you to build attraction.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:33 PM
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I think you already know the answer of how to deal with flakes. The question is, why do you let your ego effect you so much. Rejection/failure is supposed to build you up, not tear you down.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:30 PM
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NO Acknowledging emotions are one thing. It's okay to admit how you are feeling. But, if you are feeling sad or angry you can easily project your mood on others and no one enjoys that.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:28 PM
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Talk to the very first person you see. Doesn't matter if it's a guy or girl. You will get that first conversation out of the way, and you will feel like you aren't completely alone right away.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:26 PM
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Yes... The harder thing may be keeping one.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:16 PM
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What do you mean? As a way of seducing, in a playful manner? I love the way you look to the right when you think it's so cute. Then ask her a question and she will probably look to the right.
/r/seduction13/12/12 11:40 PM
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So you never got anywhere with this girl? Repeat this in the mirror a millions times: I never got anywhere with this girl. Now if I read wrong and it's someone from the past. Repeat this in the mirror a million times: There is a reason why we didn't work out.
/r/seduction13/12/12 11:38 PM
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I didn't get to complete IDGAF power until I reached my 9000th rejection.
/r/seduction13/12/12 11:34 PM
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Saying, "So so will be there, this guy is a real player" just sounds so effin corny, insecure, and desperate. Oh the ironing!
/r/seduction13/12/12 11:32 PM
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Thanks, I understand most of the first part. The second part is more intriguing. I am at the point where all I want is a fun time. So I do less screening, because well I feel that it really doesn't matter as I'm not highly interested in a partner. I'll keep this in mind in order for me to try to get girls to qualify themselves to me, I do like making the girls work.
/r/seduction12/12/12 05:29 PM
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Can you share a little more about screening? Great write up man. I wouldn't mind coaching, where as many here seem to look down on it. I just can't afford it at this point.
/r/seduction10/12/12 10:39 PM
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It's just your ego getting in the way. Most likely you will move away from your college town. You will never really talk to these people again. In reality, these people have absolutely no bearing whatsoever in your life. It's your ego that gets in the way, because "how dare someone not like me." If you told them that all you want is a fun time, they have no good reason to be mad anyways. Now, if you are leading them on... well then I can see how girls can spread this news and make you look bad t…
/r/seduction07/12/12 09:24 PM
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Why may I ask? Most likely you are over-thinking things. Unless you are in a town of 12, then not calling your cousin back when you said you would might be a bad idea.
/r/seduction07/12/12 08:25 PM
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Go a step further live on Walden Pond
/r/seduction06/12/12 10:10 PM
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What type of area do you live in? Location makes a huge difference, as some places just don't have a ton of places for foot traffic.
/r/seduction06/12/12 07:51 PM
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She was being nice to you. Most likely if she leads you on she thinks you will show up for bottle service again, of course requesting for her. They can't give out their number publicly or they can get in trouble. I have plenty of friends that work bottle service in Hollywood and Vegas. This is pretty standard. Don't let it get to you, it's just part of the game.
/r/seduction06/12/12 06:57 PM
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When it rains it pours. When it's dry it's a drought. Ride it out my friend.
/r/seduction05/12/12 06:37 PM
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I see, you weren't very clear.
/r/seduction04/12/12 08:12 PM
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I don't know if you are completely on par with what Mr_Smile is saying. What Mr_Smile is saying is it doesn't matter who you are even if you are transmitting neediness. Just own it.
/r/seduction04/12/12 07:44 PM
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I agree. Being shameless, honest, and taking full responsibility are all things people wish they could be. That's why it's attractive. Too many people are worried about what other people might think about them. People envy the people that can be like this.
/r/seduction04/12/12 07:40 PM
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I've read your post and your responses to people. I have an honest question: You seem eager to meet new people, but you are so quick to eliminate suggestions... Have you talked to anyone about social anxiety?
/r/seduction03/12/12 11:03 PM
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A relationship? These are basically only for pickup. A simple search will yield what you are looking for
/r/seduction03/12/12 10:50 PM
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Congrats on the breakthrough. Now take those aspects of what you learned, and apply it to other parts of your life. There is a huge difference between the success of Beta's and Alpha's in the workplace.
/r/seduction03/12/12 08:18 PM
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Seduce everyone. The same rules apply, just adjust accordingly. When making your intentions known. Make it known that you want to make new friends. Remember a huge stage in the pick up process is making one feel comfortable. All of these things can be used to gain friends. Everyone loves confident leaders, not just women.
/r/seduction03/12/12 08:08 PM
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It's called time to move on. Now to answer your other questions; How do you know you built comfort? Sometimes girls will give out their number just to get rid of a guy. Yes, if you build enough attraction and don't state your intentions it can easily lead to the friendzone. This happens all the time. The better you get, the less frequency this will occur. You are assuming right about the stating your intent. But, that also doesn't mean you will get a phonecall or text back. There is also somethi…
/r/seduction30/11/12 12:07 AM
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Then this should be moved to askseddit. The OP was so general in his asking of the question. He deserves a general answer. The post is also incorrectly named, as it should say "What is an IOI"
/r/seduction28/11/12 09:14 PM
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Interesting I am getting downvoted, yet the top post just list nothing but IOIs. This community, just don't get it sometimes
/r/seduction28/11/12 08:47 PM
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This is where IOIs come in.
/r/seduction28/11/12 05:37 PM
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Her: "We have a great section of do it yourself" You: "Do you like to do it yourself?" What's next, gonna tell us that girls are like plants?
/r/seduction27/11/12 10:24 PM
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I agree it makes men soft. Taking the women part out of things, if you are uncomfortable with meeting new people, this doesn't necessarily eliminate that. You lose out on gaining social skills. Social skills that will come in handy when you are meeting a new client and need to make them feel comfortable enough to buy what you're selling. The social skills when you want to impress the parents of the girl you met online. It does make men softer, instead of taking on a weakness and improving on it …
/r/seduction27/11/12 03:58 AM
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Completely agree Most people here think they are the best, it's an internet thing.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:56 PM
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He got the number...
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:54 PM
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I know what it mean. Him saying that dancing to get a girl is making you outcome dependent is incorrect. He is only correct if he gets rejected and goes all "night at the roxbury" on a girl.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:52 PM
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It's okay to feel uncomfortable. You must remember one thing that is always preached; go out of your comfort zone. Go with friends more is my only suggestion. It will be less intimidating if you are surrounded with friends. You're a badass, you can conquer the fear of dancing.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:50 PM
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I understand, but if you are there to have fun... who cares? Dancing is fun. The more you think about it the less fun it gets. That's why people always say, you gotta feel the music. People will mock you if you dance well anyways "Look at that guy trying way too hard" If your having fun that's all that matters. Yes, guys who know how to dance, can dance silly better. But, when you go out to the club/bar and dance no one is keeping score. It isn't dancing with the stars.
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:47 PM
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Thanks for nothing?
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:43 PM
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Work on one thing at a time. You don't need to worry about so many things at once. Do I get rejected on the dance floor? All the time. But, every time I step on one I can find a girl that is willing to dance with me. What follows varies, but I at least am able to "open" a girl on the dance floor because I am having a good time not taking anything seriously.
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:00 AM
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How does that make you outcome dependent? Its the same as saying "If you are using lines to pick up girls you are outcome dependent' Being outcome dependent means you care if you are rejected or not. Correct me if I'm wrong
/r/seduction16/11/12 12:54 AM
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That's great. Dancing shouldn't be serious. Just like going out to a bar shouldn't be serious. You are there to have fun.
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:50 PM
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I have 2 questions: Why should you not try and look silly? Isn't being the fun guy one of the most preached things? Aren't you forgetting the DGAF mantra?
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:30 PM
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I'll take it works for some guys and others. But, dancing like an idiot and asking a girl to dance with you is gold. It shows you are just ahving fun, and the whole dancing like an idiot part makes it look like you aren't trying to seduce the girl. Don't give up on it
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:25 PM
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you sexy son of a bitch
/r/seduction15/11/12 10:04 PM
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If you don't mind answering these questions... What music do you listen to? Can you recognize the simple rhythm in a song?
/r/seduction15/11/12 10:01 PM
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Body language. Not when already in a set. But, body language when not in sets. Basically, (in a lame way of putting it) trying to look sexy all the time. Changing the way I stand. The way I put my hands in my pocket. The way I drink my drink. The way I lean on the bar counter. You get the point
/r/seduction15/11/12 09:28 PM
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This is great advice. Too many people are afraid to dance because they are afraid to look stupid. In my experience dancing like an idiot draws the girls in. If you can't dance, just dance like an idiot. Girls like to dance. Dancing like an idiot is the indirect way of trying to seduce a girl on the dance floor. Full disclosure, I can dance and dance damn well. Dancing like an idiot is much more successful. I do "pull out the moves" when I've been already talking to a girl and she requests that w…
/r/seduction15/11/12 09:25 PM
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I dont know if eye contact and body language is the same. But, yes this is what I'm talking about when studying other people. Imitate the actors. That's what actors do in order to play a sexy character. They study sexy people. I try to look at all the little things. The hand placement, the stance, how they move their eyebrows, how they lean, how they cross their legs... everything. If you can seduce a girl just by sitting there you are already half way there, and the sexual frame is already set.
/r/seduction14/11/12 08:30 PM
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Body Language Body Language Body Language This is probably one of the hardest things to work on. I am still even working on improving this. The problem is muscle memory. Our muscles are already trained to relax/tense up in certain situations. It's much harder to break than what comes out of your mouth naturally in a conversation. My best advice is to study guys who can be considered sexy. Study the way they stand. Study the way they sit. Study everything. I myself have been watching movies (Jame…
/r/seduction14/11/12 05:31 PM
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I have a different set of rules for people that I want to seduce, and for people that I am not. For people that I am trying to seduce (men included), I only censor myself slightly. Choose strong words, but words that aren't abrasive. I also make sure the tone of my voice is different. Tone is a big part of speaking. For people that are my friends, IDGAF. I don't change anything. I am not malicious with my words, even though sometimes some may interpret it that way. Those people I usually I end u…
/r/seduction14/11/12 05:21 PM
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I would continue, that falls into something important. So I assume you are still in contact with her. When her sister feels better, be aggressive and tell her to go on a date with you. Pick the time, the date, the location, the event... If she again decides to flake on you without providing a time that she will be available, then she doesn't like you. Cheers
/r/seduction13/11/12 09:48 PM
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What was the reason for the flake? But to be honest, there is absolutely no reason for a woman to flake other than emergency. If she's into you she will make time. If you suggest a time, and she can't make it she will give you a time when she can. She might have just called your cousin to make sure she doesn't look like a bitch. Because for some people what people think of them is everything in life.
/r/seduction13/11/12 08:29 PM
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Depends on the classes you go to. Sometimes in the cheap/free ones they don't teach you much.
/r/seduction13/11/12 07:21 PM
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search innergame in this subreddit
/r/seduction12/11/12 09:47 PM
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Take improv classes. It will drastically help you with acting/reacting in different situations. It will give you practice for making smooth transitions conversationally. Improve yourself. This social barrier will rear it's head in other places in life (possibly your career), and if you realize what the problem is take the steps to correct it.
/r/seduction12/11/12 09:46 PM
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Do not automatically think they are busy. In fact even if they are busy, if they are into you they will make time. You have nothing to lose, if she rejects you she is just a another passer by
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:56 PM
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You missed the most important part of her post Most other people my age are secure in themselves and present themselves to the opposite sex in a mature, respectable, and sexually attractive manner. Whereas I just embarrass myself, and shut down. This has everything to do with her self confidence, the guys approaching her are obviously hitting on her. For whatever reason that doesn't give her confidence but does the opposite.
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:50 PM
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Guys are hitting on you, but you remain shy. You are lacking self confidence. You can choose to screen these guys out, but ultimately that is not your problem.
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:48 PM
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It happens man. When it's dry, it's a drought. When it rains, it pours. Hang in there, the good times will come. I promise.
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:35 PM
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Entitled girls everywhere.
/r/seduction09/11/12 05:06 PM
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Indirect/direct refers to the style of opener. Approach angle is a shitty term I used because I can't think of a better one referring to physically approaching a girl during day game. Cheers
/r/seduction08/11/12 10:51 PM
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Look up indirect approaches for more. Here are a few examples: Ask for directions Say "hey you look like someone I know" and in terms of approach angle: Do not just walk up in front of a woman. Go from a peripheral angle. Walk by and look over your shoulder then open. Hope that helps man.
/r/seduction08/11/12 09:59 PM
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Club game is much harder than party game. At a club girls almost always have their guard up from being approached so much. In terms of improving your day game, I would suggest changing your approach angle. Are you walking up to them directly? Doing the over the shoulder? Sometimes people are afraid of being people that are too direct. I think that sometimes its because they have the thought of "what does this person want" IE people selling magazines, talking about religion, you get the idea.
/r/seduction08/11/12 07:42 PM
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Are you in a fraternity? There is a social ladder among the Greek system at every campus. IMO why he got downvotes is because for whatever reason fraternities get a bad rap among these forums. Sure there is the whole purported reasons to join a fraternity out there, yes those have little value. But, as a college student, the Greek life can extremely improve your college experience. It may not work for everyone, but for a lot of people it can drastically improve the college experience.
/r/seduction08/11/12 07:21 PM
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I don't know why people are downvoting you. The Greek life is a great way to have tonsof things to do in your life. So many people here chirp about "innergame" and making your life as cool as possible so that women get interested in you, yet they are so quick to be negative on fraternities. So a guy in college with a ton of friends, parties, most likely involved in other organizations, and knows a bunch of women through Greek association is somehow not improving one's life? I don't get it
/r/seduction08/11/12 05:35 PM
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Oh got ya. Yea, I get what your saying with the non-verbals when you stumble. But, for me at least non-verbals came into my game at a much later point. First was approach, then was kino, then was the non-verbals.
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:49 PM
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Getting upset by rejection is the most egotistical thing. Who said someone is supposed to like you? Who said someone is supposed to laugh at your jokes? Once you get over your own ego, you can truly not give a fuck.
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:44 PM
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For a beginner the non-verbals are much harder. When you become more comfortable the non-verbals are much easier. Maybe you are mistaking me for the OP.
/r/seduction07/11/12 06:41 PM
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Do you have any nervous ticks? IE biting your nails, you can put don't bite nails in there for a reminder Do you have your body language and body positioning down? You can put don't cross arms, position by target etc
/r/seduction07/11/12 12:00 AM
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agreed but for a beginner in order to avoid those awkward silences, it's best to have some sort of... let's say gameplan
/r/seduction06/11/12 11:31 PM
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also ability to emote (felt bad for imaginary girl)
/r/seduction05/11/12 08:57 PM
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You got into a fight with a huge drunk guy who was abusing his girlfriend. BOOM
/r/seduction05/11/12 08:11 PM
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Practice... You will fuck up a lot. You know that "I don't give a fuck" attitude you like so much? That goes with you messing up when talking to a girl. Routines do become second nature. I am sure people will come in here and give the whole routines don't work spiel. That's BS. If you are new use the routines, they will help you become more comfortable with interacting with a woman. Until you can be completely comfortable within your own skin stick the routines.
/r/seduction05/11/12 07:26 PM
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My comment stands alone. What do you talk about? Anything. Did you not get this point? If he freezes up it's not an issue about subjects to talk about. He made such a big deal about the Greek system. As if sorority girls are harder to talk to. I bet it can be any girl, and he would have difficulty talking to them. Again, thanks forum police officer.
/r/seduction01/11/12 11:18 PM
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No, he specifically mentioned frat parties. As if the people there are different from any other people. Guess what... they are not. Listen, I understand that in a college setting the Greek system may have sort of social ladder. But, that's nothing to worry about. Individuals in the Greek system will converse just like anyone else. My advice is that he shouldn't be afraid just because it's a social circle he may not be familiar with. Maybe you didn't get that. Now go police somewhere else.
/r/seduction01/11/12 08:51 PM
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What do you talk about with anyone else? Are people in the Greek system not humans? I swear I always laugh at these type of posts.
/r/seduction01/11/12 06:45 PM
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You don't choose. You have to be aware of which one has obviously chosen you. If you want a relationship, go for the one that you are attracted to the most. If you just want to feel a warm hole, then refer to my first two sentences.
/r/seduction31/10/12 08:40 PM
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Friendzone Phil is that you? You gotta make it clear in the first few minutes of interaction.
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:49 PM
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Very tough read. I had to read this a couple of times. But, I think I got the main points. Let me ask you a couple of questions: What makes your (at least in your opinion) views better than the PUAs that you may be bashing? Putting aside the obvious cost. There are some assumptions you are making. Most notably, the assumption that men come here (or other pua advice places) looking for anything more than short term happiness. Why are you assuming that men can't compartmentalize their short term "…
/r/seduction30/10/12 08:03 PM
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You have to sift through all the "There is this girl I like how do I talk to her" threads. The concept is usually discussed when the topic "what makes a guy cool/why does everyone want to hang out with him" is brought up. People who are constantly giving value are the ones that are considered fun to hang out with. The funny guy, the good looking guy, the rich guy... Whatever reason it may be they are giving value away. This topic is also discussed in a negative light when people talk about "what…
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:21 PM
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This advice is posted here all the time. Be a value giver is not a new concept
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:06 PM
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Too vague... Most likely your approach is wrong
/r/seduction29/10/12 09:05 PM
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No offense taken. It's an internet forum. Maybe you should include a preface of "people have been asking" You can include the message just leave out the name. The reason why it's important because I feel most users browsing these sections are new. Cheers
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:24 PM
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Don't take as I don't like you. Take it as I think some of your advice is wrong. You are one of the more active and popular posters. So your posts tend to be higher up on the food chain to be read. I understand you are trying to tell people to go out there and try, go out there and learn what works. That's great advice for beginners. But, you know what isn't good advice for beginners? Telling them to not worry about IOIs, telling them not to use routines. Routines help someone get used to approa…
/r/seduction26/10/12 08:14 PM
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You have bad logic all over this post right here. Michael Jordan sucked at basketball. So don't you think he used certain routines that made him better? Oh that's right he had a routine shooting the basketball. One that was taught to him by someone else, one that he repeated over and over and over until he became the GOAT. You said routines are useless, you said IOIs are useless. A person that is naturally bad with girls can use these routines, can use these IOIs to get better. Yes, people may o…
/r/seduction26/10/12 07:42 PM
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IOIs aren't necessarily just for approaching You do not have the concept down. It is for knowing when to escalate in the attraction process.
/r/seduction26/10/12 07:36 PM
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You gotta wade through a lot of dirt to find a single gold nugget. Matchmaking/dating websites is a huge industry for a reason
/r/seduction26/10/12 06:56 PM
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It makes a huge difference. There are levels of building comfort that you have to go through. A girl is twirling her hair, does that mean you should go in for a kiss? Show me a post where a guy ignored IOIs, and somehow was at a disadvantage There are hundreds of posts where a guy tells a long winded story where he got IOIs in the beginning but never acted. Thus got thrust in the friendzone.
/r/seduction26/10/12 06:35 PM
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It's very arrogant to think that there aren't naturally awkward people. It's not a societal thing. That's why there are natural leaders in the world. I hate this perfect world thinking. People are naturally good at things and naturally bad at things. The beauty of the human race is that people have the mental capacity to teach themselves outside of their natural instincts.
/r/seduction26/10/12 06:31 PM
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Exactly. The best tip I can give for beginners is SEDUCE EVERYONE The same rules of building comfort apply to both sexes
/r/seduction26/10/12 05:17 PM
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I am sorry this is bad advice man. It takes a while for someone new to get used to opening. It is completely fine if someone uses an opener as a crutch. They can transition to be more natural once the AA goes away, but sometimes it's easier for people to rely on a routine so they don't get caught with nothing to say. You know why telling people to just act natural doesn't always work. Because some people are just naturally socially awkward creatures.
/r/seduction26/10/12 05:13 PM
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I'll go classic and say... When you think you should kiss her, you should kiss her. Too many people aren't reading anything these days it seems
/r/seduction26/10/12 05:07 PM
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If you agree with him then shouldn't you amend your original post. A noob might disregard IOIs completely by this advice. Since this is the internet The OP might be the only thing read. Clarification between pre and post opener IOIs should be added.
/r/seduction26/10/12 05:06 PM
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I don't feel like drinking.... why is it such a big deal anyways? Like I said before a girl isn't going to lose attraction to you because you aren't drinking. Same way she won't be attracted to you because you are drinking. If you are fun you are fun
/r/seduction26/10/12 05:00 PM
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See that's why I say your reading comprehension is bad. By me saying learn until you do... that means you have to keep on trying at it until you do. Reading all of this stuff does very little. You have to go out and learn what works and what doesn't. There are routines that some people can pull off and other routines that don't work for them. The routines/lines/techniques are everywhere. Guess what going to a bar and saying that I can't have a drink because I'm the DD is a good opener. But, it's…
/r/seduction25/10/12 09:20 PM
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Your condescending, sarcastic, high-horse attitude shows. I'm convinced it's not the not drinking thing. With that said, go to a place where people are. It's not that hard, if you don't drink, go anywhere you see people gathering. You see a cute girl at the mall working in a maternity store... go in and talk to her. You see a cute girl reading a book on the corner you pass on the way to your apartment... go talk to her. It doesn't matter where you are, there are opportunities to talk to women as…
/r/seduction25/10/12 09:01 PM
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Cool, you obviously don't have great comprehension skills. I know you obviously gave up on bars. Mainly because you think the girls think that you drinking is negative. I get that. That's why I told you to say you are a DD. You could have given other reasons not to go to bars. BUT, the specific reason you gave as to why you don't go to bars is the reaction women give you when you say that you don't drink. I was trying to help out. What if the OP has the same reasoning of not going to bars as you…
/r/seduction25/10/12 08:08 PM
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First, my response was directly to your response. Not to the OP. I thought that was obvious. Secondly, maybe I should have made it clearer for you: You said women roll your eyes at you when you tell them you aren't drinking. When I tell a woman I am not drinking because I am driving they respect that. Maybe, I just have a better ability to make conversation than you. Women do not get turned off when I tell them I am not drinking because it's not the fact that I am drinking that builds attraction…
/r/seduction25/10/12 07:46 PM
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Tell them you are driving... I don't know anyone who has made fun of a DD
/r/seduction25/10/12 07:35 PM
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If you have nothing to be confident about you should change that first. Do something new and exciting.
/r/seduction24/10/12 06:53 PM
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My first advice, get rid of your negative attitude towards them. Meh, most of them are douches How do you make friends in any other context? I understand it may be intimidating when they are all hanging out, but maybe start talking to them 1 on 1. When you join student government get to know the guys there, then branch off
/r/seduction24/10/12 06:50 PM
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You do realize that there is nothing stopping you from actually befriending the guys in the fraternities? You know treat them like people? The majority of the people in student government will be in the greek system. So that's a start. Believe it or not, frat guys have friends outside of their fraternities.
/r/seduction24/10/12 06:34 PM
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http://www.rosalindofarden.com/2011/05/determining-skin-tone-and-color-palettes/ there are other guides, but I would really suggest talking to someone in person. That is the best way to figure out your correct palette
/r/seduction23/10/12 11:03 PM
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Depends. Asians tend to either have a strong connection with their identity and culture, or have issues with their identity. That's why you have Asian women that love their culture and show it off. Meanwhile, you have the Asian women that dye their hair blonde and wear blue contacts. You can guess which one is attracted to which type of man. There are also some neutral Asian women, but those tend to be the minority among Asian women. You will hear a bunch of people give you the perfect world sce…
/r/seduction23/10/12 09:59 PM
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To tell you the truth... Dance like a complete idiot
/r/seduction23/10/12 07:19 PM
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I've discussed this before. Color: certain skin types have a certain color palette. Some colors will make a person look sick, some will make them look handsome Fit: This is important since clothes are based off the original model it is fitted too. Most likely you don't match that models body even if you look like a model. For both I suggest get in contact with someone in fashion school, ask them what color palette would go with your skin. Also, see if they can give you tips on fit. These are the…
/r/seduction23/10/12 06:42 PM
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I would suggest taking her up on those short meetings. But, make it on your terms. If you kind of have a feel of her schedule, tell her that you have time to meet up for a drink but only have an hour. There are a couple of things I have learned when a woman suggests only a short meeting time. She is trying to keep things friendly and doesn't want to lead you on by spending a long time with you. She really is that busy, but still wants to make time for you. Even the busiest women will make time f…
/r/seduction23/10/12 04:25 PM
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There is a "do I look like a drug dealer" routine made famous by Cajun. I use this myself to open up sets of 3 or more. Google it. At the bar/club there is also the "did you see the fight outside" opener. Then tell a stupid story, the crazier the better. It usually is better if you involve a drunk girl, so you can then turn to your target and say "I hope you aren't like that" During the day I do use the (now too popular) "I would be kicking myself later if I didn't say hi" Or if women are sittin…
/r/seduction23/10/12 04:19 PM
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I think you need to move on. Sounds like you played it as "the cool guy." You should have framed yourself as the sexual beast from the beginning. If she really is as busy as she says she is, then she would make time for you as long as shes interested. I've gone on dates with women that are incredibly busy, this is understandable, but if they are interested they will make time.
/r/seduction23/10/12 04:10 PM
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Disconnect with your thought process Why do you overthink things? Because you are afraid you'll mess up Why are you afraid you will mess up? Because you lack confidence Why do you lack confidence? Innergame is not strong enough So you can say anything you want in your head, but you need to get your innergame above 9000 first
/r/seduction22/10/12 05:39 PM
1

Is it cold in the friendzone? She's probably banging other guys, sorry man.
/r/seduction22/10/12 05:30 PM
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whatever makes you feel better I'm just sharing what I use. It works for me. I'm glad you are telling me that it doesn't.
/r/seduction22/10/12 04:39 PM
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Never ask fish how to catch fish. Ask the fisherman.
/r/seduction19/10/12 09:24 PM
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If a girl asks me to buy her a drink I tell her "I don't buy girls I just met drinks. You can use some other schmuck in this bar/club" This is a DHV and neg. It shows that you aren't just like every other guy that has approached her. It also makes her seem like she is just using you for a drink. If she is just using you for a drink she will move on. If she likes you she will try to earn your respect back. PS. I hate it when girls ask me to buy them a drink. I think that it goes in my favor when …
/r/seduction19/10/12 05:53 PM
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Let it go. If you make it a bigger deal than it is then (any girl) will make a big deal out of it. Listen, an attractive girl will hear the same lines over and over. The opener means nothing in truth. It's just an opener for you to try and build attraction. Concentrate on building attraction. If you get good at that you can open with the cheesiest most used lines like "I would be kicking myself if I didn't say hi to you"
/r/seduction19/10/12 05:45 PM
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Fair enough. I meet enough girls that I can put this to the test... But, I do agree with the premise of that girls need to have an ego check. Especially when 99% of the guys a girl will meet will cater to them
/r/seduction17/10/12 10:02 PM
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3 of 3 isn't the greatest sample size... But then again I'm no scientist
/r/seduction17/10/12 09:49 PM
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I had to admit to myself that I am not that cool. I'm not a movie star. I'm not an athlete. I'm not a millionaire. I am no one special. I am a regular schmuck that is just trying to get his life sorted. Just like most people in this world, I am not an outlier. Does that mean I can't love myself and strive to keep growing? Of course not, but my shit stinks just like everyone else.
/r/seduction17/10/12 09:25 PM
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I got over judging people by getting over my ego. It's pretty arrogant to believe that I have the right to judge people that I know nothing about.
/r/seduction17/10/12 04:27 PM
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Nice, glad to hear you were able to get what you want. Also, thanks for the update. Most people say they will but never Cheers
/r/seduction17/10/12 03:48 PM
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thanks, ill give it a read
/r/seduction17/10/12 03:45 PM
2

So whats the weather like in the friendzone?
/r/seduction16/10/12 11:09 PM
3

sing in the shower it will help you with projection and voice tonality
/r/seduction16/10/12 06:59 PM
2

Guys are using body positioning to block you out if they think you are a threat. Are you sure they are looking at you? If they really are giving IOIs I don't see why they would be so negative when they approach you. Nice, women will position themselves close to a "target." Although, they will leave it up to you to talk to them. If you don't talk to them right away she can lose interest pretty fast.
/r/seduction16/10/12 05:30 PM
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I don't know. Personally I believe that since the way I act is such a way that people just don't know how to deal with it. I call people out all the time. I think that maybe people aren't necessarily having their guards up but not being their true self, for fear I might say something that can be viewed as negative (I try to tell the truth, I don't try to be malicious but like always sometimes its hard to hear the truth). I do notice that a lot of people in my life do appreciate the way I act, an…
/r/seduction12/10/12 10:35 PM
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I agree with you but can you explain this? People love guys that don't allow any of this bullshit in their lives, because they know they don't have to have their defenses up around the guy, this is also part of generating a lot of trust quickly. what do you mean by other people having their defenses up? sometimes I feel that me acting this way that some of my friends are always keeping their defenses up. I do believe that they do respect me more, but at the same time I can tell that they do keep…
/r/seduction12/10/12 09:59 PM
1

Then you are still afraid of rejection. Why would you freeze up? Because you are afraid you will say something stupid... Why are you afraid of saying something stupid? Because you are afraid of being rejected.
/r/seduction12/10/12 04:28 PM
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I use a condom.... Are you talking about unprotected sex? You better really trust your partner
/r/seduction12/10/12 04:24 PM
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I disagree. Do you see how some people dress up? If they were going to just hang out they wouldn't be peacocking so hard. This goes for both sexes
/r/seduction12/10/12 04:22 PM
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Yes, it is pointing out her insecurities. But, if you say you like tall girls it accomplishes a couple of things It already puts you in a sexual context Complimenting the thing she is insecure about completely brings her guard down I would suggest trying it. If you were insecure about something and someone said they found it sexy wouldn't you bring your guard down?
/r/seduction12/10/12 04:20 PM
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The reason why I specifically say taller women is because I find that a lot of tall women are insecure about their height. I always ask a tall woman how tall she is and ask her if she likes being tall. You can play off of that from there. Good luck man!
/r/seduction11/10/12 08:34 PM
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Approach the first tall woman you see every night. (5'10'' and up) Shows you have balls and will impress the girl. It shows confidence. Will show everyone else you dgaf about your height. Giving you social value as it shows confidence in yourself.
/r/seduction11/10/12 07:56 PM
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Being secure in who you are is a sign of a maturity. You getting a sophisticated haircut, drinking wine, dressing sharply... has nothing to do with being mature. Yes, it probably is no use for you to talk to women. Not because of how you look, but because you have absolutely no confidence in yourself. So do you want to complain about your looks, or do you want to do something to improve your confidence? What is the goal of your post?
/r/seduction11/10/12 06:29 PM
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Whenever I catch myself doing this. I think to myself "stop being a judgmental mfer" I think it's natural to judge, but as long as you can catch yourself doing it. You can stop it from getting to you.
/r/seduction11/10/12 04:51 PM
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Couldn't agree more. This past weekend this girl that I was talking with all night, all of a sudden was joking that she had a "boyfriend." I knew she was joking because her friends told me she didn't, and she even said she didn't earlier in the night. She brought it up once and I told her "that's not funny I'm not that type of guy" She brought it up again and I left within 10 seconds. She hasn't stopped texting me since.
/r/seduction11/10/12 04:44 PM
2

Practice in the mirror. When it comes to body language of any kind, you must practice in the mirror
/r/seduction11/10/12 04:37 PM
1

I'm just going by the context you provided, which in this case really paints the picture. In other cases I would say she may be testing you. But, that is a lot of history...
/r/seduction10/10/12 11:52 PM
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You don't ask the fish how to catch fish. You ask the fisherman. But I do think it's cute when there is an AWOG. I take it as a challenge
/r/seduction10/10/12 11:49 PM
4

This is a form of negging. If she loves her job or where she is from, she will try to get your approval of job/where she is from
/r/seduction10/10/12 11:17 PM
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She is giving you hints. Do you not get them? she explicitly stated it was "not a date..." Normally this could be a feeling out process. But, with the background info you provided I think she is telling you she is not interested.
/r/seduction10/10/12 11:13 PM
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I have some advice: If you care about her feelings you need to tell her what you are thinking. There can be two outcomes She is fine with a FWB situation You guys go your separate ways and the feelings can't get too hurt. I suggest you discuss something with her. Who knows you can be the one who gets hurt in this situation. Since it's so early it would be easier to move on.
/r/seduction10/10/12 12:03 AM
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You are up to almost 50% non-flake rate. That sounds pretty damn good to me
/r/seduction09/10/12 10:26 PM
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Yup. Like I said it can wear off through a long night because you'd be touching everything. The hardest thing is not washing your hands. It will help but won't completely stop it. Hope this helps man
/r/seduction09/10/12 10:23 PM
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Anti-perspirant spray on your hands. Not joking on this as I am a sweaty palms man myself. It doesn't stop it completely, but it sure helps. If anything tell them you have a medical condition and make them feel like an ass. All of a sudden the HB is trying to win you back.
/r/seduction09/10/12 10:13 PM
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My best tips are not about the style. Since everyone has a different style, and women like different styles it's not about the style. The things that cover all styles is color and fit. There are tons of colors that will help your skin look good. There are also colors that will make you look sick. For me I only exclusively wear certain colors. The next is fit. Each person has a different body shape (I am not talking about fat or skinny). Unfortunately not all articles of clothing are cut for a ce…
/r/seduction09/10/12 07:28 PM
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I said when we want to splurge. Which might be one vegas trip out of the year. (I live in California so Vegas happens multiple times) We also get around 4-6 bottles. So easily 3-5k But that is around 10-12 guys. We only do it about once a year though. The other times I go to Vegas I call up my friends that work there and keep it cheap.
/r/seduction09/10/12 04:28 PM
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Placebos work, I think mainly because it's Vegas and the girls (well anyone for that matter) is looking to let loose. There would be times when going back through the lobby to the room girls would say "I don't even feel that drunk let's party more" Of course our response is "Well I've got alcohol in my room"
/r/seduction08/10/12 11:47 PM
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I'll take it even further. When my friends would go to Vegas (and splurge) we would only get grey goose. We would take one label off the top so it was marked. Then we would put water in it. Girls rarely drink without a mixer at a table from my experience. Plus, girls are usually just thinking "hey free drinks." Even some would say "you sure theres anything in this?" I would just grab the bottle and pour more 'vodka' into it. Then magically it's all better.
/r/seduction08/10/12 11:33 PM
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Nice man! I'm glad you set goals. I put it in the category of routines. Some people frown on this, say it's stupid. But, all it does is just keep your mind on track. Do you have new goals every time you sarge? This is why PUAs actually have success. They give people who are usually successful in other parts of their lives but awkward socially a formulated way to seduce. If I may, you might like picking up Mystery Method if you haven't. He is very precise in laying out goals and plans. You don't …
/r/seduction08/10/12 11:29 PM
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I think you know the answer, I would tell you but I have a boyfriend. When it rains it pours, and when it's dry it's a drought. Just soldier on through.
/r/seduction08/10/12 08:34 PM
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How did she know you were hitting on every girl? I have gotten this before "You are talking to all these girls blah blah blah" IMHO it's because she is jealous. She wants that attention. She see's that you are being accepted by other girls and you have piqued her interest. A girl who is not interested wouldn't even bring it up. She would just go through her usual deflections that she has built over the years when you approach her.
/r/seduction08/10/12 07:11 PM
8

Are you serious? What you basically said is "Making a guy feel comfortable when he says something awkward is like totally better than ditching him and making him feel like a loser"
/r/seduction05/10/12 10:12 PM
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You want some real advice? Stop giving up so easily. All I have read is that you hit some adversity and give up. You know all the answers but are too afraid to go through with them. Hate living at home = move out Can't move out because you don't have money = get a job or 2 jobs whatever it takes You need to talk to a therapist = go and see one there are plenty of free ones, hell even help lines, use this thing called the internet. Hell, if there was some PUA company that hired me I would run the…
/r/seduction05/10/12 08:08 PM
5

I've read this thing about 4 times. I don't get what your point is.
/r/seduction04/10/12 11:14 PM
1

It basically means "listen I'm not some sorority slut, I'm worth it if you wanna stick around" It doesn't mean she isn't going to give it up. But, it most likely means that she wants a relationship with someone she is willing to give it to. She is throwing it out there unprovoked because it could mean that she thinks you might be the relationship type, and if you are scared by her being a virgin then her thoughts were wrong. I don't see it as a way for her to get you into a relationship, but a w…
/r/seduction04/10/12 06:44 PM
1

It is a shit test, kinda. Many men will run away when they here this. This is her way of trying to weed those guys out. If you just want to bang this girl an not date her you might as well just leave. She obviously has waited, that means she wants to share her first experience with someone she deems worthy. You won't convince her to take her card in a couple of dates. Now if she is religious and is a virgin due to that, well then only marrying her might change that. So unless you really want to …
/r/seduction04/10/12 05:42 PM
1

you don't have to... but for some reason plenty of women like it
/r/seduction02/10/12 11:50 PM
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So why did you wait for so long before you asked her out? You made her laugh, you hung out with her, tried to win her over slowly... So, Angel and were in a play together, and I slow played it each rehearsal, being cool and teasing her until she was into me. How many rehearsals were you in with her? Are you sure she didn't take your "slow playing" as just being fun? As she was continuing peace talks with the ex So how do you know she was talking to her ex? Did she complain about him to you? So s…
/r/seduction02/10/12 10:15 PM
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1) I will NEVER again make my move too early, or even directly express interest. All y'all who play direct game, props, but I'm going back to indirect game. Unspoken shit. Plausible deniability. Direct only under the surface and with body language, and with mixed signals. I think you need to rethink this. In this situation you didn't show interest right away. I'm afraid you were friendzoned and you didn't know it. You were in a play with her how long? You ask her out on a date after your last pe…
/r/seduction02/10/12 07:57 PM
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I would do the whole kiss her then pick her up in your arms thing. Take her somewhere where you can isolate, preferably a place that is private. Then go from there.
/r/seduction02/10/12 06:37 PM
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Too much background is needed. If this is a girl you really don't know, then I'm sure she is kidding, kiss her and try to escalate from there. If you have known/dated her for a while, I wouldn't have amplified. It's too sticky of a situation. If she is serious and you don't know her....run
/r/seduction02/10/12 06:24 PM
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Sure, but that's not the stigma we are talking about. You can go ahead and talk about what this community may talk about, but we are discussing the stigma that women have against PUAs, and pickup in general are we not? I think most women don't compartmentalize the two unless they have been introduced to seddit.
/r/seduction01/10/12 10:10 PM
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I understand there is more to life, but part of my life right now is wanting to bang as many girls as possible. You make it seem as if that is a bad thing. I think you know that people make seducing girls a part of their life, and for different people it is either a bigger part or smaller part. Let people choose what they want.
/r/seduction01/10/12 09:55 PM
1

at least that's how you're presenting yourself. You come here on your high horse but all you are doing is passing judgement. Who are you to say what people can enjoy and can't enjoy? If people enjoy fucking women by using the techniques that are shared by PUAs then let them be. Or do you just want to tell people here that you are above us?
/r/seduction01/10/12 09:46 PM
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Is he less human if he enjoys playing the game and trying to get laid as much as possible? Is he (might as well lump myself in that category as well) the scum of the Earth if he (we) have this as a short term goal?
/r/seduction01/10/12 09:36 PM
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You are making the wrong assumption. The article attacks PUAs and pickup in general. Calling it a game, and that women are treated like objects. My reply to big_reddit-squid is to him backing up the claim of the article. I am pointing out goal for PUAs. You never see PUAs advertising "Let's get you a long time girlfriend." They advertise "If you listen to me you can get laid"
/r/seduction01/10/12 09:27 PM
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I think you are missing something about pickup and PUAs. The main goal is to get laid. The goal is not a long term relationship. Women play games with men all the time. They don't really care about getting to know a guy, in fact if a guy gives the wrong answer they are already disqualified. Around these parts we call them shit-tests.
/r/seduction01/10/12 07:37 PM
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I have a question for you. Do you not realize that this sub is not intended for people to feel good about themselves? It is intended for men to share tips on how to get laid. You seem to have missed the entire point of this sub. Sure, you may think there are chauvinistic parts, but that is just part of the deal. Believe it or not, women like assholes. They like the routines, they love the lines used, and the guys love getting laid so they will continue to use everything read here. If you want to…
/r/seduction01/10/12 07:17 PM
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It is a complete piece of shit, I completely agree. I hate it when women think they know what works on them. It's the most arrogant thing that women do. You don't ask the fish how to fish. You ask the fisherman.
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:44 PM
0

I never mentioned he should keep it private. I told him to be upfront at the first opportunity. We don't need to get in the politics discussion. You obviously deny the fact that I may be right and the majority of males are homophobic and/or have homophobic tendencies. I think completely dismissing that possibility is not open-minded at all.
/r/seduction28/09/12 09:49 PM
0

Those men are doing these things in private. While the OP would be approaching in public. I agree they may be in the closet but that doesn't mean they can't react in a homophobic way. You don't have to believe me, but you obviously read my post about where I live. Answer me the voting for gay marriage thing?
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:15 PM
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I don't think you understand. If you truly believe that most males on this planet are not homophobic, you are living in a non-reality. Like, I've said plenty of times people like to think "perfect world" scenario, opposed to realizing the truth.
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:34 PM
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Maybe I am. But, if someone is open minded how could he be offending that person? Why would it offend that person? People chiming in and saying "I'm open minded, it doesn't offend me" does nothing to prove a point. Now, if someone said "I'm a big homophobe and it doesn't effect me." That would give the OP reassurance not to be afraid. Huge difference.
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:09 PM
1

I'm not. But, can you tell me how it helps him? He isn't worrying about the open minded individual, do you not get that?
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:54 PM
0

I'm from Los Angeles, now live in Orange County. Again, people like to think "perfect world." I will tell you this most males in a large metro area like Los Angeles are still homophobic. Sad, yes. But, it's the truth and to think otherwise is ignorant. In a democratic state such as California, where most of the voters live in the big metro cities such as LA, SF, SD; why is it that gay marriage has not been ratified through public voting? It's sad but it's the truth.
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:53 PM
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Then why post? Most males in this world are homophobic. To say otherwise is perfect world scenario. Let's not be so ignorant. There is a reason why gays are still fighting for certain rights. There is a reason why gays have to have "their clubs." There is a reason why gays have to have their own enclaves. You want to say you are open minded, but you seem very close minded to the truth. Why would someone even make this original post? Ruminate on that this weekend.
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:21 PM
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Not everyone is as open minded as you. He is not worried about a man like you. This should not be the top post, it doesn't help the OP.
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:18 PM
1

I think the most homophobic males are afraid that a gay man will "try something sneaky." Now this is my opinion, but I truly think this isn't far from the truth. It is very sad but, I think being upfront as soon as possible can root out these type of people.
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:13 PM
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Oh so we live in a perfect world? I understand you are open-minded, but let's be realistic here, most straight males are homophobic or have homophobic tendencies. Did you not understand when I said that a straight male will be quick to point out they are straight is a homophobic tendency? I'm glad you decided to tell everyone you are open minded. But, give the OP some advice
/r/seduction28/09/12 06:09 PM
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I understand your worries. Most of the world, outside of a few enclaves, is mainly homo-phobic. My suggestion is to bring up that you are gay as soon as possible. Like the same way guys are supposed to put their intentions up front so they don't get friendzoned. I think the most common reaction from a straight male would be to make sure they tell you that they are not gay (it's a homophobic reaction, but at least you know right away to proceed). It is a quick way to see who is gay, who is open-m…
/r/seduction28/09/12 05:40 PM
5

Put her name in your phone, hand phone to her. Simple.
/r/seduction27/09/12 07:05 PM
1

Couple of things: Safe sex is always YOUR responsibility. Do not leave you safety to someone else. If you go to any university (at least in the states) the health center should provide free condoms. At least in the states there are places called Planned Parenthood that provide free condoms. Again, it is YOUR responsibility to have safe sex. If you are a passenger in someones car, don't put on a seatbelt, then get in an accident that results in an injury that could have been prevented by wearing …
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:04 PM
2

You can call a play, but there will be signs of what to audible to (that's why it's good to remember responses). If it looks like an all out blitz, you audible to a quick route. If two safeties are sitting deep and a pass play is called, audible to a draw play. Now if it looks like a corner blitz (mother hen) you shift the running back over to cover. A good offensive coordinator can call the plays, but only in practice can the QB learn to read what defenses are going for and audible to the right…
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:33 PM
1

This is so true. I often will go over openers and practice in the mirror while getting ready. I tend to recycle some openers, so I try to remember many of the responses I get. Just like the great Woodenism "Failure to prepare is preparing to fail" So I would add: if you are using the same openers over, try to remember as many responses to them as possible. The more you prepare for both good and bad responses the easier it will be when you transition.
/r/seduction26/09/12 10:20 PM
4

Work on Kino. There are plenty of guides/tips you can find online.
/r/seduction26/09/12 09:00 PM
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couple of things It's not a waste of time because understanding other cultures, only broadens your perspective on everything. It wouldn't hurt to understand social norms of certain races. Remember, people only usually act a certain way because that's how they are taught growing up. Breaking down something that took years to build won't happen in one set. So it shouldn't bother you too much. Take it as a challenge. Every woman responds to a different type of approach. Maybe, try different types o…
/r/seduction26/09/12 08:57 PM
3

Fair enough carry on
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:56 PM
3

You should add to the inappropriate posts: "Im sad help me" "Stuck in a rut...." Most of these posts are filled with people that just want to vent, and looking for people to tell them everything will be okay. These topics don't even belong in the askseddit sub.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:43 PM
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Your original post is not what this subreddit is about. Hence, the downvotes. Take my advice learn how to take criticism. You obviously can't
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:35 PM
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So you wrote something and I'm supposed to know otherwise? Get over yourself son. Don't diagnose me, I'm an arrogant asshole. Guess what... I love it. I get girls. I enjoy life. If you can't take a little kick in the butt from strangers on the internet you will never change enjoy your depressed life.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:12 PM
1

So I was right? You sound depressed when you type. Your doctor said you really don't suffer from depression. Maybe, don't be so fast to get insulted. If someone tells you something is wrong with you, take it as motivation to change that. If you can't take my blunt advice you aren't ready for change and all you want to do here is vent.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:09 PM
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"I've been working on fighting my depression and have been feeling pretty good" Oh, I'm sorry I'm not reading? Maybe, you aren't reading? Did you not see I gave you a solution? You won't change because you are a punk that can't take criticism. Put that on your list. Learn to take criticism. Find a way to change that. You come off as an emo kid. Don't take it so personally. You should say "damn I sound emo, even when I type?" Not as an insult.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:02 PM
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What happened? You have the anonymity of the internet. IF it is real you need counseling, and getting help here won't help. Most guys that come here and say they have depression really don't. If you can't take criticism from random people on the internet then you aren't ready for change. You are the only one that knows the problems with yourself, admitting it might be the hardest thing to do. So you are being emo, you know your problems and all you want to do is complain. Make a list of what you…
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:44 PM
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Are you serious? How do you smile more... Umm I don't know maybe just smile. Don't even say you have depression, you are just being emo. There probably isn't a life changing event that you could point to that would be cause for real depression. So in conclusion stop being emo and smile more.
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:22 PM
2

Coffee/Drinks? You are on the right track, but a little off target. Don't tell her to go out more. Tell her to go out with you.
/r/seduction26/09/12 04:23 PM
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Keep practicing. Doesn't matter if you find the girl attractive or not (I do not get why this matters). Obviously, it is something with your game that still needs work. Take it as that and nothing else. Did you initiate kino. Did you have good body language. Did you remember her name. All of these things can be worked on, and like everything else you just need practice. Don't get down, and don't take it personal. You will get there young padawan.
/r/seduction25/09/12 11:15 PM
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Depends, sometimes in bar/club game girls have their guard up already. So the direct approach won't work as well. Day game on the other hand girls may not be expecting it. So they may be a little more receptive to the direct approach. Of course it doesn't need to be said you need good body language, eye contact, (continue the checklist). What environment are you doing your approaching?
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:27 PM
5

Oh so 90% of girls will probably be on E or Molly. Bring candy, not joking.
/r/seduction25/09/12 05:20 PM
1

Anything that interests you. Live near a downtown area, just go downtown and walk around. Is there an event that is going on near you and you have nothing to do? Go to it. Even if you don't have the money, there are plenty of things you can do. The most important part is talking to people. I just talk to anyone. Sure there will be the close minded people that will shut you down, but who cares. You see someone wearing a shirt that may have the same interests as you (say a band you may like). Comp…
/r/seduction25/09/12 04:44 PM
1

LOL you just don't get it. I don't want you to admit anything. There you go again trying to prove your intelligence by quoting someone I could care less about. No one cares what you know. No one cares how much money you make. The problem you have is that you think it's important, not only that but you have to tell people about it. You are coming here for advice on how to seduce a woman. I gave you some advice, but you are too thick to take it. You want to start? Read everything in the side bar. …
/r/seduction24/09/12 11:10 PM
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You really don't get it do you? Who are you trying to impress here? This is the internet. I am giving you good advice. I am not the only person that gave it to you. "I kind of want to just stop for now... and become a a millionaire trader before 25" Do you not see your problem? You come off as desperate with trying to prove yourself so much. Do you get it now? No girl cares if you are a millionaire trader by 25. You talking about that stuff just makes you reak of desperation for approval. I'm gi…
/r/seduction24/09/12 10:49 PM
1

If you talk to her and she brings it up just say "Sorry I wanted to take advantage of you but not like that, I'm not a rapist"
/r/seduction24/09/12 08:50 PM
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I don't know if he's looking for advice. He just wants us to tell him that he's super. Smart, going to be rich, handsome, basically the perfect man. Don't worry wonderguy556 you aren't the one that needs to change it's the stupid girls!
/r/seduction24/09/12 08:18 PM
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I just started going out alone. Part of it was forced because I recently moved to an area where I only have 3 contacts. I am glad I started to do so. I don't need someone else's approval of what to like/do. I guess it's me just not giving a hoot. It really has made me more open-minded and made me want to try new things.
/r/seduction24/09/12 08:13 PM
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LOL so many wrong things in this post. Who are you trying to impress? Giving out all these qualifications doesn't impress anyone, even women. You sound desperate and tbh pretentious. No one likes those two things. Take my advice, lose the ego. Don't judge. Be open minded. You are losing hope in what? You are 21, and it seems you have had no adversity to face. You really need to get over yourself. That's why no girl likes you.
/r/seduction24/09/12 07:48 PM
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Kiss her. Edit: I know that's what you're asking "how..." But, this sub is basically about manning up and going for what you want. So man up and kiss her. If she's into you, she will let you kiss her. If not, she will let you know. Simple. As. That.
/r/seduction24/09/12 07:16 PM
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It depends. I go by the mantra "it's not what you say but how you say it." At the same time, girls will respond differently. Some girls will love the funny indirect approach. Others will prefer the direct approach. I've had success and failure with both.
/r/seduction24/09/12 06:20 PM
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sure but hidden in all of that is actually good advice. Not the advice given by other people that are just trying to make the girl feel better. Oh yea I forgot no one reads on the internet.
/r/seduction22/09/12 12:03 AM
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You aren't getting the point of this sub
/r/seduction21/09/12 11:15 PM
1

lol for seddit everyone doesn't enjoy typical internet humour
/r/seduction21/09/12 11:10 PM
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We are saying the same thing. The only reason why I bring up Mystery is because he was one of the biggest PUAs that started this seduction movement (if you can call it that). What he mentions on what attracts women is basically what you are outlining. So really, it is nothing new to the pickup/seduction world. That is why I said, that I gathered that you haven't read his material. His stuff may be scripted, but they are meant to display all the things that you outline (whether they be real or no…
/r/seduction21/09/12 10:58 PM
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Agreed, numbers mentality. Keep on sarging!
/r/seduction21/09/12 10:48 PM
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Inb4wheredoyoulive? Anyways, do you think you are outgoing? Maybe try to be more "fun." Not saying be a slut, although that can help (sorry penis talking), but do find yourself talking to a lot of people, laughing, having a generally good time? Rules of attraction works both ways. If you DHV by showing you are fun to hang out with, you will get more guys attracted to you. But I must leave you with the internet obligatory TITS or GTFO.
/r/seduction21/09/12 09:16 PM
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I can't believe I read all this. The only thing I took from this is that you haven't studied Mystery Method. He outlines what females are wired to be attracted to. Now on the idea of muscles and masculinity. I don't think muscles have anything to do with it. For one, when it comes to women, some women may feel more secure with a woman that can be a provider. There is the natural instinct of being attracted to a man that is muscular, but at the same time the human mind is strong enough to morph t…
/r/seduction21/09/12 08:11 PM
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Nothing. If there happens to be anything there still she will contact you out of the blue. Sometimes indifference drives girls crazy.
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:42 PM
2

Okay, so you are butt hurt she, isn't giving you attention. Maybe, not oneitis but the early stages. Move on, she has
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:36 PM
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Oneitis my friend. She used you, no longer has interest, and is just being nice. At least you got it in right?
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:21 PM
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An alpha would turn her around and kiss her. But, if you really like her as a friend I wouldn't do it. You are already friendzoned. So my advice is to use her as a wing.
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:09 PM
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EricDisco's response should have more upvotes
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:06 PM
1

What advice are you looking for? How to get into that state or what to do when in that state? Your post really doesn't explain anything...
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:04 PM
1

You should write a romance novel. "he gazed deeply into my eyes and everything faded into the background. I didn't know what he was saying, but I knew I was blown away."
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:56 PM
1

You've never hooked up so take your case with Shrimpcakes' as an apples to oranges comparison.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:54 PM
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Nope. Have you hooked up with other girls? Has she hooked up with other guys? I am guessing yes. It would have happened by now man, hate to be the bearer of bad news.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:52 PM
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I'm sorry she isn't into you. It's college, you guys live in the same dorm, she knows you like her, and yet you are telling me you can't find a setting where it would make sense. More like she hasn't allowed there to be a setting where it makes sense. Enjoy your trip with your friend. Update this and prove me wrong for your sake.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:49 PM
1

So why haven't you hooked up?
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:45 PM
1

Then she might be down to hook up. But, try to initiate kino early on in the trip. Is there a reason why you guys haven't already hooked up?
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:40 PM
1

How much of this are you paying for? Basically, how do you know you aren't friendzoned and she is taking advantage of you?
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:33 PM
2

Depends on what you feel like. Do you want to be the other man? Do you want to break up their relationship? But, I seriously don't think that's the case, and you would probably just complicate your life if you don't just take a step back from her.
/r/seduction21/09/12 05:29 PM
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Congrats you are doing all the romance stuff while her BF bangs her. Classic friendzone material
/r/seduction20/09/12 11:48 PM
1

DLV. Seeking approval of others. Some girls may like your body, some may think you are a douche. To me it is a DLV I don't know what others may think.
/r/seduction20/09/12 07:39 PM
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take it as a compliment. It's human nature to surround yourself with people that give value. Now, it is up to you to say no to certain things, but try to take it as a compliment.
/r/seduction20/09/12 07:31 PM
2

Free handouts as in what? You buying them drinks/paying for everything? If you talk about guys being AFCs when they come out with you, that can actually help. You then become the leader of the group and women are attracted to that.
/r/seduction20/09/12 05:38 PM
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Boxed wine. Be a classy drunk
/r/seduction20/09/12 05:11 PM
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What he is doing is creepier than being upfront. You called rmbarnes suggestion creepy. Maybe, you already forgot about that. Your suggestion does not set up a date, which shows leader qualities, initiative, and intentions. So you tell her shes cute. Okay, I'm sure she has friendzoned guys she met in classes that have told her shes cute, and made no attempts to set up a date. Tell her she's cute, set up a date, if she's not in then he can move on. If she's interested, the OP will get a "sure let…
/r/seduction20/09/12 05:09 PM
1

If I am illiterate you have no reading comprehension skills. Better?
/r/seduction20/09/12 04:09 PM
1

Glad you only used half of the sentence to prove your point. You must be working the election this year.
/r/seduction20/09/12 12:02 AM
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Exactly. Get cold sores? you got it. I get cold sores, got them even before my first kiss. It's not a big deal. If you have to explain it to a girl, just say you always had them, and your parents have them. Yes, it is possible to get them genetically that's how I have it.
/r/seduction19/09/12 11:57 PM
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No, you are wrong. Please read up more. It's not taking rejection and building yourself up. It's getting rejected and not giving a fuck. You are obviously afraid she will reject you by asking for a way to come off not as a creep. If she's into you, guess what, it won't come off as creepy. So grow some balls and state your intentions.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:57 PM
2

Then tell your "boy" that if he can't ask questions himself to anonymous internet people, how the fuck is he going to grow balls to talk to a girl in person. Even a girl with the same interests won't want him if he acts like an AFC.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:52 PM
1

Hope it turns out good for you. I'm glad you didn't think I got laid through college. From my experience, you are taking the wrong approach but you seem to know what works and don't need any opinions from strangers.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:48 PM
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I was in the same situation as you. I wanted to get back into the game but didn't know how. Then I banged a dirty slut. Things started falling in place. I know it sounds stupid, cliche, whatever. But, for me that's all it took.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:21 PM
1

Yup, he's just being a typical whiny kid.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:19 PM
1

So he knows all his problems. Doesn't do anything about it? Complains and asks for advice on the internet? He knows the answers, he's just too afraid to follow through. Hence, stop being a bitch.
/r/seduction19/09/12 09:18 PM
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Don't know about that. She didn't know his name (send me a text with your name). They have had weeks of class together and no action. He has no clue why she sat next to him, maybe it's because she saw him gawking at her and thought "I might be able to use this guy for help in this class." IMO he already lost his chance. He never introduced himself properly, and if he did what an impression did he make if she didn't remember his name. OP if you read this take my advice, forget this girl and next …
/r/seduction19/09/12 08:54 PM
1

I love how everyone downvoted me. Even though I'm giving him the type of advice he needs.
/r/seduction19/09/12 08:17 PM
0

Stop being a bitch.
/r/seduction19/09/12 06:54 PM
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Hence, me telling your "friend" to read the sidebar. Listen, I know you are the AFC. First step, recognize you are one so you can actually start the process of change. Or you can get mad at me calling you out, and remain an AFC.
/r/seduction19/09/12 06:18 PM
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You seriously think it's more creepy for a guy to be up front, or for a guy to lie about his intentions and trick the girl into hanging out? You know who does the latter? Pedos that dress up as Santa Claus to have children sit on his lap. People are acting like AFC's. So it's better to give the OP the advice of act like a man. He's blown it with this girl, so maybe next time he can act like a man and not blow it.
/r/seduction19/09/12 06:15 PM
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I think your "friend" needs to stop being an AFC and read the sidebar
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:27 PM
1

Agreed
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:25 PM
2

No rmbarnes is right and you are wrong. Not putting your intention up front, gets you into the friendzone.
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:25 PM
1

Everyone here is wrong. Always display your intentions up front, or else have fun in the friendzone
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:24 PM
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It was on keys to the VIP and has it also on another interview. It's an indirect opener. Approach a set of multiple HBs. Say "Can I ask you a question? Do I look like a drug dealer?" Most HBs answer with "no why?" Here you can initiate kino. "A couple of girls have come up to me asking for weed (can replace it with E/Molly if it's a club)" do this with your arm around the target. "As soon as I say no, they push me away" (push away girl playfully). Then proceed with "Don't you hate it when people…
/r/seduction18/09/12 09:56 PM
1

correct
/r/seduction18/09/12 09:46 PM
14

I love the Cajun "do I look like a drug dealer" opener when opening up a 3+ set. It makes it easy to open up groups of women if played correctly.
/r/seduction18/09/12 05:14 PM
3

yea all the tips you need are in the side bar. start there young padawan
/r/seduction18/09/12 05:12 PM
1

stop caring if they flake. Outcome independent, numbers mentality...
/r/seduction18/09/12 04:27 PM
1

I agree Mystery Method is the basis of this seduction game. Lines, fake it til you make it, peacocking, basics of kino, and so much more.
/r/seduction18/09/12 04:22 PM
2

the painful times are the best. The blowouts can be hilarious.
/r/seduction17/09/12 11:16 PM
2

Nice. Keep us updated.
/r/seduction17/09/12 07:01 PM
0

you need a better wingman
/r/seduction17/09/12 06:38 PM
2

You are forgetting one piece of advice that is shared often here. If you want her go get her. If you really want to be in a relationship with this woman what are you waiting for?
/r/seduction17/09/12 06:36 PM
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You aren't reading enough. What you are doing is what has been said a lot. If you are having fun and being the life of a party, surprise that's a DHV. Women take notice, and want to be part of that fun.
/r/seduction17/09/12 06:28 PM
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It's not what you say. It's how you say it. Confidence, body language, eye contact, projection.... you get the drill.
/r/seduction13/09/12 11:49 PM
6

Glorious case of being outcome independent. Bravo!
/r/seduction13/09/12 11:02 PM
3

When she breaks eye contact with you is another time to look away. But, do not be the first to break eye contact.
/r/seduction13/09/12 08:20 PM
2

May you inform us on what you were saying? There are some lines that are getting too popular. IE "I just had to talk to you or else I would be kicking myself later.."
/r/seduction12/09/12 05:49 PM
2

please update us on how things go.
/r/seduction11/09/12 09:56 PM
1

Fair enough. Loving yourself and confidence can be two completely different things. But, your original post did not come even close to making this point. The analogies were hard to follow, that's why I kept on asking for you to elaborate.
/r/seduction10/09/12 11:59 PM
1

it's implied in your post when you say that innergame is only related to the field. But, if someone "loves themself" they will naturally DHV. Due to the fact that they have confidence in who they are. Or am I missing something? You can think I am trolling or you can actually answer me, and prove your point.
/r/seduction10/09/12 11:43 PM
2

So confidence doesn't help you in the field? Am I missing something? Please elaborate I'm not trying to troll just understand.
/r/seduction10/09/12 11:20 PM
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So there is no correlation between "loving yourself" and "innergame." I'm not sure I follow you.
/r/seduction10/09/12 11:10 PM
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Depends. There is a social ladder in the Greek system. But, if it's about hooking up with girls, it doesn't matter. Sorostitutes love to have fun, doesn't matter what fraternity you are in.
/r/seduction10/09/12 07:36 PM
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So you are in a relationship and want to bang other girls? You sir are like every single other man in the world.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:33 PM
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There is a disconnect between having strong innergame and being narcissistic. IMO narcissism is when there is undue love with one's self. Where having strong innergame is knowing where you are at in life, knowing all your faults, and accepting all your faults. It's okay to have faults as long as you recognize them and try to improve upon them. Narcissism is "I'm perfect, I don't need to change." Innergame is about improving yourself. A narcissist feels that he doesn't need to change.
/r/seduction10/09/12 04:48 PM
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KINO KINO KINO I've had success in foreign countries, and you have to go with physical cues. Kino is hard to get lost in translation
/r/seduction10/09/12 04:41 PM
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Cliff notes will give you more opinions. I suggest you add some. But, I did read the entire novela so here is my opinion. She left the door open for another encounter. She specifically said "maybe if you're free in the coming week." Also, I think you shouldn't have said what is it that you teach again. It shows a couple of things. 1. you didn't listen to her 2. that she is the only one getting your attention right now when she specifically said she is busy. Next time when she says later this wee…
/r/seduction10/09/12 04:27 PM
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Although I am 6' tall I always approach the taller woman. Most of the time they find that they are rarely approached, and almost always blame it on their height. I say I find taller women sexy, and it instantly brings their guard down, and at the same time lets your intentions be known. Most tall women are insecure for whatever reason about their height even though it gives them long sexy legs. I don't get it.
/r/seduction10/09/12 04:21 PM
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I was in a frat. Most guys have no game whatsoever (surprise just like anywhere else). In fact, most of my brothers who have graduated can't get any random girls now a days. That being said, approach the girls the same exact way. Sure, there may be guys who try to AMOG you, but at the same time if the girl is into you it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction07/09/12 06:48 PM
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best place to start... the FAQ then everything below it.
/r/seduction07/09/12 06:44 PM
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Dear diary, Veronica told a very funny joke today
/r/seduction07/09/12 05:10 PM
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worrying about performance too much can be classified as outcome dependent. If the girl is into you most likely she enjoyed the sex and will come knocking again.
/r/seduction06/09/12 09:22 PM
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Couple of things: 1. you were her one night stand 2. you got yours 3. you got yours and she used you for sex, whats the problem again?
/r/seduction06/09/12 09:06 PM
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Reputation as in a place you go to often? You need to elaborate. Do you live in a town of 5k people? Anyways, if you need time warming up, talk to guys. The same rules apply, just maybe less kino. It's all about earning trust, and sometimes it can be harder with guy to guy interactions. Either way people will notice you as a friendly guy that is easy to get a long with, all along you get to do your warm-up.
/r/seduction06/09/12 08:16 PM
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This. The most important thing I've learned from "game theory" is innergame.
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:24 PM
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If he likes cooking, then why not join a cooking class. Unless all his interest are testosterone driven hobbies, I am sure he can find something that interests him and women.
/r/seduction06/09/12 04:52 PM
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This depends on where you are at in your life. For me I set a lot of small stupid goals that were very easy to achieve. I wrote a bunch of small goals down on a piece of paper. One of the very first goals I set for me was making my bed every morning. I know it sounds stupid, but it is a very easy goal to reach. The satisfaction I got from seeing all these easy goals accomplished helped me boost my confidence. Have a monthly savings goal ( I don't know your financial situation but for a lot of pe…
/r/seduction05/09/12 09:29 PM
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This sounds spot on. To the OP maybe work on your innergame first. Yes, it sucks getting shot down, but if you had strong innergame rejections/flakes would not effect you as much.
/r/seduction05/09/12 07:39 PM
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So you didn't get a free drink out of this? That how most girls handle guys with no game.
/r/seduction05/09/12 07:33 PM
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This is why I just don't take the watch off. Or do you do some crazy move that requires a bare wrist?
/r/seduction05/09/12 07:09 PM
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I was the opposite. I wasn't progressing much as a man after a long term relationship. My girlfriend warned me that it was becoming unnattractive. I think I was in such a comfortable state I didn't think I needed to progress. Alas, it didn't work out. I wanted to try to bang chicks to make me feel better. I learned about "the game" and studied it. At first it was about just getting laid, after a while I learned it was much more than that and I couldnt be happier with the progress I've made, and …
/r/seduction05/09/12 04:30 PM
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The more I learned from this sub (and other places to study game theory), I realized it is so helpful in life. Building innergame just makes you a better person.
/r/seduction05/09/12 12:01 AM
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