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Simultaneously horrified and not surprised. https://np.reddit.com/r/WomenAreNotIntoMen/comments/1v3pc8v/they_dont_want_to_feed_little_boys_either/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:03 PM

Another 1%er, oh my god? Well, I'm cool with standardizing genetic testing that includes paternity for all children. I make enough and pay enough in taxes that it seems reasonable and prudent to me, and I'll vote that way when it shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:49 PM

Why can purplepill reply to question for redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:29 PM

One more 1%er. God. Yes, tell me more about that One Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:13 PM

Another 1%er, smh. They can do other testing as well along with paternity and inform the parents of the results. The cost of testing is probably completely covered by the cost to support people with other genetic issues, that are identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:12 PM

Right, so if he had asked, what would you have done?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:45 PM

Were you asked to get a paternity test?*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:41 PM

Were you asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:39 PM

Can y'all stop being so weird? Especially the top 1%, go outside, talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:33 PM

It should obviously be government mandated. I wonder about the quality, status, and reputation of the women that suggest anything otherwise and are unwilling to get tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:23 PM

Proud to be an American man. Things aren't perfect, but men and women are more equal now than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:23 PM

Guy working at Mcdonalds: "Yeah, I'd date my coworker." You: ^
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:28 AM

Reddit today: Men that didn't watch Supergirl are misogynists. Fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:50 AM

LOL, No you can't. The words you are using to type this out only make sense to communicate within society. If you want to participate in society, you have to use words correctly, which means not being able to flip the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:18 PM

No, Misandry is not more prevalent. They really really hate men. Sure some men who are hurt by women will hate them, but misandry is enforced by women. If you are not a misandrist, you are called pick me. Women blatantly project hatred towards men to the point of dehumainzing them. Not really, Society can change the definition of words through social messaging. So they can say define "Women" as the class as being unable to "hate" the class of people defined as "men", which means your argument is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:00 PM
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Doesn't really matter what others think. At the end of the day, you get to decide if you want to be pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:03 PM
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For me, it's okay if we have different understandings of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:59 PM
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That's okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:53 PM
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As long as they are making it work, they are doing a good enough job. It will get easier with time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:48 PM
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In ecology, fertility and reproductive are markers of population health. I don't really care to argue with you about this. We have different definitions. If we can't agree on definitions, whats the point debating, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:47 PM
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I think it's much much better to consider the men and women in secular, equal, and high access to contraceptive locations, that don't want kids to be psychologically unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:43 PM
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No, I'm saying: People that don't want kids in the most equal society we have ever had are psychologically unwell and its good they aren't having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:41 PM
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It's fine dude, it works both ways. The women that never want kids, under any condition, are also getting selected out. It's really nbd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:38 PM
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Let's just agree to disagree. I think any population of animals that can't pass on their genes is definitionally unhealthy. You think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:37 PM
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Ah! The person who holds the exact opposite view as me! Or, having kids is bad for your physical and psychological well-being, and people with greater autonomy choose to opt out of harming themselves. I disagree! Having kids is psychologically healthy!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:29 PM
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That's a surprisingly binary view of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:25 PM
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they do need fixing, meds, therapy, whatever. If the person is able to fix things on their own, then they are sufficiently healthy. I just wouldn't advocate for society to 'fix them'. Like, rounding up suicidal people to make them not suicidal is not a reasonable long term strategy for a population. Better if they are able to solve their own problems. People that don't want kids, are like suicidal people that don't want treatment. It's unethical to make them do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:22 PM
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Yes, that has been happening. Global inequality is also reducing with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:15 PM
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Exactly, the current state of equality is selecting out psychologically unhealthy men and women that are unable to be happy in the most equal society that has ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:14 PM
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I don't think being psychologically unhealthy is shameful. For instance, I don't think it makes sense to shame suicidal people. They have a psychological issue that prevents them from being healthy. It's not in their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:10 PM
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This is unhealthy from a population perspective, because it requires a difference in two populations to promote an increase in birth rate. I do agree that it would work, but again, it would only be temporary, until the differences in the populations normalize. After which, women won't move between populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:05 PM
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Healthy animals pass on their genes. Psychologically unhealthy animals are animals whose brain is acting in a way that stops them from passing on their genes. For instance, a suicidal animal is psychologically unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:02 PM

I'm trying to understand your emotions. I'm assuming you feel more than one thing at a time about it, but i would love to break it down if possible. However, I felt guilty as fuck cuz I never loved, or really cared about them except for being a human being. You felt some guilt for portraying yourself inauthentically, like GFE without literally being his girlfriend. Its just part of the industry, that the women are being paid to preform your fantasy and ignore all of her needs "all" of your needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:45 PM
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I'm done with PPD. There is no paradox for me anymore. Red pill is about what is true, Blue pill is about social acceptance, and everything else is either on the dimension of truth and/or social acceptance. The tinder experiment is reality and PPD is unwilling to accept it. The regular posters here don't date and don't know what is real. This deleted comment on that post is correct. I think if there was ever a time for the guys on PPD to get off here and find somewhere else to go where they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:11 PM

What does your tag “retired promiscuous woman” mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:39 PM

So true! But it’s also okay to have needs. If your girls disrespects you when you state your needs though, “find someone who will” All of that just turns into, hey have options, just in case. Women do it too, I’ll link a study if anyone is interested. Backup boyfriends, preselection, etc. Just copy and paste the female strats, you got this!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:41 PM

Sigh… no one replies when people xpost fauxmoi, fds, 4b. Good for Tatum, star of magic mike, live your best life dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:36 PM

Democrats are too anti-male and anti-merit for me to vote or support them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:57 PM

But Christmas is this year
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:00 AM

Sounds about right, HeForShe in 2014 was when I first noticed it. I doubt social media bans will change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:40 PM

Women will vote for a society that supports them, “loving them even if they were a worm”, and distance themselves from anyone that threatens that support, “choosing the bear over the needs of men”. We just need to outlast this generation of female voters, because those “girl failures” will 4B themselves out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:02 PM

Men too. It’s on purpose, being vague means they don’t have to face reality. They get to play make believe within their constructed reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:41 PM

How much would you bet that they were honest and acted asexual from the start of the relationship? 50/50 odds? 1/10 she lied? 9/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:37 PM

Do you think it’s possible the woman lied?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:22 PM

👋
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:12 PM

She has a need, that is normal, but she wants to be special, so she doesn't want to call it a date for one reason or the other. He indulges her in that delusion, which she appreciates. Its like the "would you love me if I was a worm?"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:20 PM

Nah, women settle for a lot less. For instance, prostitutes settle for just money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:00 PM

lots of women enjoy guys that are more supportive than honest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:51 PM

Yeah, most advocacy groups do that. UAW was for "Manufacturing in the US" but suppressed Electric Car manufacturing and subsidizes in the US. It's an advocacy group, despite anything anyone might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:05 PM

Probably not horny, just excited to see some boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:19 PM

It’s the women are wonderful effect!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:14 PM

It’s a female advocacy group, not a morality club.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:09 PM

Instead of being weird about this, you could just drop your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:02 PM

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:49 PM

I don't really care what you do. I just like watching women aim for 1st, settle for 2nd, then say they liked 2nd all along and that they didn't even want 1st. It's like when men ask out a girl, get rejected, and then say, she wasn't hot anyway. It's funny, the weird fragile ego logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:48 PM

Do you think muslim women get 72 male virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:45 PM

Aw shucks! You are right, getting interrogated for 4 hours as a 19 year old is totally fetch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:31 PM

When you get SA'd as a girl, but get married later. "See! Men are completely fine!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:26 PM

Nothing better than coffee and ragebait in the morning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:01 PM

No research links and they remove posts where people literally test RP theories IRL. lol, I just come here to laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:58 PM

Ah! You are totally right, I should listen to you personally, rather than a massive meta study of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:39 PM

They aren’t happy, so they want others to be unhappy. I like revealing that. It’s fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:05 PM

lol, when you accidentally get caught supporting red pill, mald_and_meek
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:03 PM

The study shows that, on average, men who are 5 feet 6 inches need to make an additional $175,000 annually to be as desirable as men who are almost 6 feet. The number increases with shorter heights, with men who are 5 feet, for example, needing to make an additional $317,000 in income.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:01 PM

The majority of PPD regulars are here to get validation for their life choices. They want to talk about how they have their cake and have eaten it too. That’s not possible though, so they it’s post here and try to come up with rationalizations or justifications to ignore the cognitive dissonance in their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:58 PM

“Trust me bro, it’s definitely true, it’s 100% not that I am a tall woman and I feel insecure about dating a shorter guy and I’m definitely not here on PPD to change society so that I can feel comfortable having short children”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:50 PM

Do you think Charlie, the girl, is blue or red pill? What type of behavior is she critical of from Andrew? Blue or red behavior? Which person are you supporting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:46 PM

You nailed it. They get off on bad faith debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:11 PM

This took like two seconds https://youtube.com/shorts/hndV93sMFBk You support Charlie, the girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:45 PM

Can’t decide between Harem-maxing or Haram-maxing in 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:31 PM

Is this sarcastic? Or do you really not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:18 PM

It's their social programming. They think that if they ask for anything from women, that the women won't sleep with them. So they say it's okay to be anything/anyone. I like paratha, I'm sure your future husband will like it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:01 AM

hbu?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:00 AM

Alice Eve, Candice Patton, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:54 AM

Male feminists don’t like women choosing to be trad wifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:49 AM

I lowkey feel bad for normies, they are so paralyzed by social conventions, they never really get to live. I bet half the people here, like me are really out there, I bet the other half wishes they could be out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:33 AM
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No problem dude! Stay safe! Follow the laws! Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:26 AM

It’s getting too boring, I should start a harem. Do you have a nye resolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:24 AM
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It’s like a social tariff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:22 AM
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Are you calling OP a racist old geezer? Do you think men shouldn’t have standards while dating? Do you think adult women can consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:20 AM

PPD really does have a crabs in a bucket problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:17 AM
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Another one! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:14 AM
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There it is! Ahhh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:14 AM
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Ah no! Stop the free trade/globalization!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:07 AM
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Why are you mad? More American women for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:02 AM
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I like how you said “passport bro in training”, badass to identify the type of relationship you want and going for it in a legal safe way. I’m excited for the crabs to reach out and try to stifle your happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:49 PM

Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:27 PM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:25 PM

Ran on grass this morning
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:23 PM
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I had a woman unprompted say that good men don’t have a preference for female appearance. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:04 PM
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I’ve had the exact same experience, faster 🚩 identification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:59 PM
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The cost of being disagreeable to hypocrisy IRL without experience is too costly socially. These forums are echo chambers, but the real world is worse. Think about how odd it is that legal methods of getting sex exist, yet discussions about them can’t occur, while there are people getting real trauma from identifying as sexless. Online debate is like easy mode for IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:53 PM
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Does this logic apply to women that post about “Man v Bear”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:43 PM
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I disagree, I think it’s important to listen to online debate. I posted the other day that sexless men can get sex if they pay for it. That’s objectively true, undeniable, real. Witnessing the responses from both blue and red pill that attempted to shame or tone police was helpful to identify manipulative language. Keep in mind that these are the same people that don’t care that Hasanabi has visited potentially illegal brothels Listening to online debate is important. How else would it be possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:34 PM

Slut Shaming still alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:26 PM

For women, Is it more important that a man is honest or supportive? Would you love me if I was a worm?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:04 PM

Overall, I feel like you kinda skipped past many controversial things, citing information related to your profession, rather than actually answering the question, if women lie more than men, why is that? What explains that difference? Is that biological? Is that societal…? Why? You never answered this question, unless your answer is that women don't lie more than men, because men and women are the same. In which case, your hypothesis is not supported by science. --- In my personal experience, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:10 PM

My question was, if women lie more than men, why is that? What explains that difference? Is that biological? Is that societal…? Why? My direct answer was about "Concealed Ovulation", but I'm going to read and respond to everything you have posted. I'll have a more complete answer at the end. Sure, okay. I’m here in good faith. I’m a doctor btw (I work in public childcare health and children’s development from fertilisation until adulthood is kind of my medical specialty). So here’s what I know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:09 PM

I promise to answer after you do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:54 PM

No, it’s really not a both sides issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:44 PM

Women are so disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:41 PM

Are you asking me whether men and women have biological differences? Do you think men and women have biological differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:34 PM

I’m completely open and honest in all my relationships. I don’t need to lie to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:31 PM
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Conversely, women also don’t need to hide it, but they always do. I’m sure that’s just an odd coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:13 PM
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Depends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:07 PM
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You are also allowed to be honest and transparent, aka the foundation of a trust based relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:59 PM
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When you are against transparency, you are against building healthy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:38 PM
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Another example of a women attempting to deceive men because they can’t bring more to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:38 PM
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When you are against transparency, you are against building healthy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:32 PM
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Who needs a study, when countries like France ban genetic testing to systemically discriminate against men attempting to establish paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:28 PM
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Lie by omission
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:24 PM
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This person is shaming people that want transparency. Why? Usually only manipulators and exploiters advocate for less transparency. Are you currently being manipulated? What feeling is being utilized to override your natural desire for transparency in your community.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:21 PM
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Two disappointments. 1. Yes, because she didn’t fuck him. 2. Because she withheld information The first is bad for a romantic relationship The second Is bad because you can never trust that person again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:11 PM
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When talking with women, on PPD or otherwise, you should ask, “does this person advocate for more transparency or less?” If the answer is less, they are likely currently engaged in social deception or shaming. The argument then is just asking someone who is deceiving you, “are you deceiving me?”, which they have no reason or benefit to answer truthfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:06 PM

Women are designed to get investment from men. Sometimes it’s through deception, sometimes it’s through shaming, sometimes it’s by being upfront, sometimes it’s by competing against other women. Anytime a woman is doing anything other than having kids or taking care of children, she is likely engaged in this behavior. Her lying to him about her default behavior, is equivalent to a guy lying about commitment to girl he has fuckzoned. It’s the sign of an insecure woman that is incapable of pursuin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:02 PM
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My ex doesn’t deserve me No one deserves or is entitled to anything or anyone, I don’t think someone should suffer the agony of being in a relationship with me tbh. Why are you treating others badly? He posted himself strolling a festive event for Christmas and he looked happy I'm happy he is happy. If he truly loved me he wouldn’t be happy without me, Love is a personal choice to want to reciprocally fulfill the desires of each other, It's not the feeling of being incomplete without someone els…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:21 PM
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Flair change time or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:10 PM
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Yes, It isn't an absolute representation, but we don't live in an "absolute" society. You can pick and choose how you want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:04 AM

I may have ragebaited the men, instead of the women today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:30 PM
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It doesn't have to be so ego driven. It could just be wanting sex and having money. You could make it about ego, but it doesn't have to be. You could make it entirely about ego as well. It's your choice, you get to decide what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:29 PM
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That's their choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:21 PM
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Forget the blackjack too, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:21 PM
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If i prove you otherwise, by showing you laws, what are you going to do? Bitch and cry about something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:18 PM
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Usually people only say ___less, when they are describing a need they want fulfilled. Asexual people are usually described as people that don't desire sex. While it's true that asexual people could be described as sexless, it would equivalent to describing a retired person as jobless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:06 PM
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Why frame it so passively and negatively? Literally just the reverse of your statement is. It's a good strategy, because you are capable of building attraction with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:02 PM
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Not sure why you downvote me just because my personal experience as someone who grew up in Germany doesn't align with your bar experience. This is like 99% of PPD. Lol, I'm sorry you have to go through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:00 PM
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True, This is the more general answer to the equation. For some men stuck in the mud though, I did want to solve the problem for the specific case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:59 PM
1

Yeah, see that's the issue with your world view. Just because your girlfriend doesn't want money, doesn't mean all women don't want money. You took your girlfriend and superimposed her mindset onto all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:58 PM
0

It is extreme and if you can't concede that, you are being disingenous. So your advice is to just go be a permanent sex tourist? Is literally the extreme version of, It's possible to travel to have sex legally. You are like a child saying, If you love it so much, why don't you marry it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:55 PM
3

Not all people want a sugar relationship... Didn't we already have another post like this yesterday? I agree not all women want a sugar relationship. The women on those subreddits do though. That's who I'm talking about in the post. Why are you talking about all people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:52 PM
0

I think you are making a lot of assumptions that can just be cleared up by dating individuals and seeing what they want/what they don't want. All I'm saying is, If the lack of sex is an issue in your life, go ahead and talk to someone that wants to give you that experience for something you want to give as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:51 PM
1

Aren't you guys always talking about women's past mattering? Not all men care, I don't care, for instance Why should that rule apply to women only then? OH! Right men are innocent angels and only expect the best for women lmao. Doesn't apply to me I guess. I think the black pill guy above, the one that doesn't want to pay might care a lot about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:48 PM
1

lol, I have to laugh to keep from crying. It's honestly tragic comedy. I'm the kindest nicest most accepting guy and he is unable to just climb up the ladder that society has put in front of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:37 PM
1

Why is it "Hire a hooker" where the man is making the decision, instead of "Choose women that choose to be hookers"? Why do you do that? Do you think women don't have any agency? So weird man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:27 PM
1

I'm just going to call you out. You are arguing about a physical cup of coffee, rather than the service industry that surrounds the creation of coffee, to avoid debating about how natural of a conclusion it is, to consider that in a liberal society, men and women are capable of consensually engaging in a transactual sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:16 PM
1

It doesn't have to be so abstract and top-down. You don't have to think in ideologies and then superimpose those thoughts and behaviors onto individuals within society to explain the world. It takes away from the primal emotions and thoughts that drive independent action within a society. It's much better to assess the individual best action within a society and then work from there. It's more human, natural, and results in better predictions of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:09 PM
4

When feminists hit you with the "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:05 PM
2

They are not required, but they consented to make your coffee after you ordered coffee. No one is requiring anyone to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:02 PM
2

Coffee is not always available. It's kinda fucked up that you are just blatantly dehumanizing the people that consented to work at starbucks to make coffee for you. You sound like someone that doesn't tip, isn't kind, and doesn't acknowledge service workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:02 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:58 PM
1

TEA - Time, Energy, Attention, is what red pillers usually say, In reality, It depends from person to person and relationship to relationship. --- The more direct answer to What sort of investments are you referring to besides money then? Whatever the woman says she is looking for. Sometimes that is money, sometimes its TEA, sometimes its a BF to post instragram photos with, it changes depending on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:54 PM
0

If you like coffee, does that mean you should drink coffee every day for the rest of your life? Straight up, I'm not trying to be a debate bro here, but most of your arguments involve taking what I have said and "appealing to its extreme". If X is true, then Y must also be true (where Y is the extreme of X). Why are you doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:50 PM
1

I would say this "Women are the most happy when men invest in them". It doesn't have to be money, but it CAN be money for some women. It's much easier for me to prove the opposite, which is that I have never met a woman happy with a man, that doesn't invest in her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:46 PM
2

So like, in your world, if a restaurant doesn't give you a free meal, you should feel horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:44 PM
2

A lot of decently attractive guys will probably choose to bang a below average woman who’s clearly attracted to him over an attractive escort. Prostitution, especially if it’s illegal, feels “icky” to some men in the same way casual sex feels icky to some women. That's because they aren't looking for sex, they are looking for validation. That's why it's easier for them to get validation from "below average woman", who are grateful they are getting attention from a high value man. It's not "icky"…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:43 PM
2

Oh, I'm not making a statement like "All women are Sugar Babies", but more "Some women are sugar babies" I'm just saying they exist, the same as I mean "Some people make coffee at starbucks"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:36 PM
5

That's like saying I'm a hungry man, because I choose not to eat. Hungry is just a temporary state, its not a definition of you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:33 PM
2

Just remember if you pay once, that is all you will likely be to that woman from then on. I'm not against men who pay or sex work, but men who act like it solves a probem for them are in for a surprise. Why should someones past affect their future relationships? Also, stop watching Myron, he just got his first girlfriend last year and already lost her to a roller blader, they also never had sex. He is not who he pretends to be. I like watching Myron. It is funny how lost and confused he is. He t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:32 PM
1

lol, Are you under the impression that the women posting for advice on other subreddits on how to get a Sugar Daddy are doing so without consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:28 PM
2

I don't advocate for doing anything illegal ever. You can always travel to where it is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:26 PM
-1

Just because you aren't drinking coffee right now, doesn't mean starbucks isn't open.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:25 PM
7

You can travel to where it's strictly legal. You wouldn't say this about women posting on that sub. This isn't a response to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:19 PM
3

But aren't men are stronger and better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:08 PM

Nothing makes my Tuesday mornings better than coffee and ragebaiting the PMSing women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:37 PM

if you don't have empathy for men, idgaf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:00 PM

Were you responding to my messages earlier while fucking him? Weird, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:35 PM

You got an amazing husband, and you want to spend time debating incels about the friendzone online? Spend some more time with him!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:31 PM

That's it? You got the whole day, don't let PPD stop you from pleasing your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:27 PM

You are mad, because you aren't pregnant, and you are taking it out on Incel men, by telling them to get good enough to get you pregnant. You think you have to be all this "Do something productive / Go to work " - You You attract what you are so Good, I might meet an empathetic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:21 PM

Why aren't you fucking your husband? It's a happy cozy sunday morning for you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:19 PM

No research either, It’s a clown show
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:56 PM

If I have to be taller, richer, more clouted, stronger, smarter and better than every woman I date AND I’m somehow not the prize? I have to give them time, energy, attention, and money? then I think pms’ing is just divine justice, If women have no empathy for men, then I have no empathy for women. We can either laugh together or cry together,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:41 PM

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:39 PM

What’s the issue with this type of picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:23 PM

It’s not complicated. For narcissistic women, men stating any preference is an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:22 PM

I’m just laughing. OP is so narcissistic, she is mad after expecting all the fishermen to provide her with the highest quality bait catered to her, so she can pick and choose. Heaven forbid the men are trying to catch other better fish
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:16 PM

Date whoever you want but declaring your preferences to a date is cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:54 PM

When telling men to "go get a hobby" is your hobby, you actually need to go get a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:53 PM

is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:39 PM

so true, queen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:28 PM

oh I just copy-paste, replied that comment to every woman that replied
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:22 PM

I agree, They should make a profile curated for you. They should really be showing some level of attention towards what you specifically like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:21 PM

Nothing makes my Sunday mornings better than coffee and ragebaiting the PMSing women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:19 PM

Wow, So tall hot rich high-status guy that is generous with money, time, energy, and attention. That's a pretty unique taste. I can see why men have a hard time making a profile curated for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:15 PM

Wow, So tall hot rich high-status guy that is generous with money, time, energy, and attention. That's a pretty unique taste. I can see why men have a hard time making a profile curated for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:15 PM

Wow, So tall hot rich high-status guy that is generous with money, time, energy, and attention. That's a pretty unique taste. I can see why men have a hard time making a profile curated for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:15 PM

ITT: Why don't men make their dating profiles about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:04 PM

lol, what do you want in a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:56 PM

I think you should break it down line by line. Ask is the guy fulfilling a need or stating/implying a need? If you go through it like that, I bet every “shamed” line is one where the guy states a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:24 PM
1

So do you report posts like this as well? https://np.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/hcij7y/aita_for_leading_guys_on_to_demonstrate_my_value/ https://np.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/b32m8b/aita_for_leading_a_guy_on/ Keep in mind, this is a debate sub, where people discuss ideas. In the above posts, women have already acted in this way on purpose. What do you think about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:11 PM

so true, there is more to life than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:14 AM
0

lol, I’m not any of those
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:39 AM
0

I’m not TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:31 AM
1

I mean, I’m not responsible for what women think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:22 AM
1

Hey, maybe women should stop relationshipzoning me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:12 AM
2

It’s not my fault if they choose to be lead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:41 AM

Learning <3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:38 AM
3

Report me, I’ll speak with lawyers if it comes down to it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:23 AM
1

🤣 lol, answer my question first
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:21 AM
-1

Hold on… lol, do you think Schindler was centering the Nazis?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:11 AM
1

Oh well!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:04 AM
2

<3 love of the game
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:03 AM
3

Because I advocate against breaking any laws, and following the rules? I don’t advocate harming anyone? Lol, there are no social laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:02 AM
2

I’m reading about that rn, apparently women already have a term for it “vampire men”, because they suck the fertile years out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:56 AM
1

If they make laws against thoughts/debates, that will be amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:46 AM
-5

Oh interesting, you are saying I could go for married women. I hadn't even considered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:27 AM

Lol, it's going to be so easy. Is your hubby still impotent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:18 AM
1

Lol, if you treat men worse than animals they'll act like them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:14 AM
-1

Lol, I got one life, I'm not spending it as a slave. There are no alpha males in the pillosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:07 AM
1

Amputation is the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:03 AM
1

I'm here to discuss sabotage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:02 AM
1

Maybe, check out mensrights and leftwingmaleadvocates for legal biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:01 AM
-1

Center the laws, not the relationship. That's like saying Schindler centered the Nazis by sabotaging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:51 AM
-1

Does it really matter? if the systems haven't changed, Sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:27 AM
-2

You should say that to Oskar Schindler. Don't punish the Nazis by failing to utilize slaves!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:25 AM
0

"I won't look at the evidence because" blah blah, cool cool, Sabotage :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:20 AM
1

I'm not holding onto bitterness. I just know that doing more of the same continues to perpetuate the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:16 AM
-2

Just because someone states reasons for their biases, it doesn't mean that those reasons are justified. If you ever want to work on your cognitive bias, you can't rely on reasonability, only evidence. How do you know that this isn't retrospective rationalization? What evidence or research do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:11 AM
-1

Nope, I have advocated for women politically, personally, professionally, but I don't really feel the same level of support back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:00 AM
1

Yup! That's why until the laws change, sabotage is the only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:58 PM
1

You might be right! I'll post here if it's not like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:56 PM
2

Do you think the mensrights way and the leftwingmaleadvocates way worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:55 PM
1

Feminazi
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:54 PM
1

lol, Is there a reply I could say that would change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:53 PM
0

It's not, it's just women that don't advocate for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:50 PM
1

That's okay, you can always get better at sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:50 PM
1

I've already locked in on the sabotage idea. So, idk, maybe someone will do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:49 PM
2

What else could be more meaningful than changing laws that would allow men and women to work together? Every study shows we are headed for population collapse. To say this is meaningless, I wonder what you think is meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:46 PM
-1

Can I find a sympathetic Nazi? Yes. Is that what you decided to narrow this down into?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:41 PM
1

lol, until laws/society changes, I don't see any reason to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:40 PM
1

It's wild, but if you want it would take me two minutes to find evidence of Show me the feminists who are actively rising to power with the intention of committing a literal genocide. and that's not even the point. I don't even care about those women, and they 100% exist. No greater harm can come to men, than perpetuating the unfair system that systematically harms men. The effects of one man on himself are negligible compared to atrocities committed by the system every day to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:32 PM
-1

Yes, except they absolutely do push for those issues, if you want evidence, talk to any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:27 PM
2

No! Don't separate, sabotage, it's way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:23 PM
1

I did let go of the hurt, and when I look at life as it is right now, it's really really not great. I can't support a system that systematically drives men to suicide, self-harm, mental illness, etc, through policies that can be easily changed. I totally understand that women don't owe men anything, but the reverse is true as well. And if men can't be equal winners, then I am okay with being equal losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:21 PM
0

When you change your mind, Sabotage will always be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:11 PM
1

I honestly think that it's much much easier to plan for and avoid false accusations and such, when you distrust women. I'll read "Unwanted Advances" for sure and I understand there is a risk, but I can't think of a different type of risk I would want to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:07 PM
1

Atleast me. Who knows who wants to secretly follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:04 PM
0

I 100% don't think its the same level. However, I know men that no longer exist due to the issues I have mentioned above, so I don't think they are incomparable. Also, you are absolutely right. Nothing here benefits those men. It's just a different strategy than, "Improve yourself" "Take your ball and go home". It's "Pop every ball"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:03 PM
-1

I used to! Has it changed anything at all? I put in my time advocating for and trying to do it the right way. I think you would be surprised by how much I have advocated for women both personally and professionally. I'm realizing now that helping women in this way, probably empowered the feminzais, and is probably partially what led to this mess in the first place. I don't really care if you are discouraged. You being encouraged has done nothing for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:00 PM
2

Do you think we aren't in population suicide right now? The entire basis of your reality is fundamentally flawed. No group of people is replacing themselves, outside of people on welfare. Your whole world is built on a fundamentally biased view of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:58 PM
2

I am planning accordingly. Of course, I'm not interested in doing anything illegal or anything even remotely related to that. I think there are more men than you might expect that resonate with what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:55 PM
0

Are you the good feminazi?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:52 PM
2

I'm really not advocating violence. It's sabotage, completely different. It's really the opposite of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:51 PM
-5

Why would I want children? Imagine having a boy and talking them through all the systemic issues they will go through as a man. It's stupid. It will just perpetuate a culture of abuse over many generations of my own family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:49 PM
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I don't think so. Purposeful sabotage would absolutely affect more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:48 PM
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Systemic bias will trickle down and affect you just as much as it affects me. The best personal protections can't stop the system from abusing you. What's your strategy for burning everything to the ground? Doing illegal things? What a stupid, ill thought out, self serving ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:36 PM
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I don't think you could guess anything about me, tbh. I honestly doubt you could conceptualize or empathize with anything I have to say. You are lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:29 PM
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most men won’t go for this Idk, I genuinely don't feel empathy for women when they choose to enable systematic abuse. It's like saying, the jews will seek approval from the nazis. I don't buy it, sounds weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:26 PM
0

genius some might say, some may might say something else, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:19 PM
0

that's like trying to make the Nazi fall in love with you. well feminazi
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:15 PM
-4

No! not 4B. Interact with women, just sabotage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:14 PM
-3

At this point, it's not really a hypothesis whether men are being affected by systematic issues, these issues have been discussed by many many people in many many threads. Do you think Oskar Schindler was just in his sabotage to the perceived inequality he witnessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:11 PM
1

Not really, laws won't change as a result of the feminazis self-destructive tendencies. There needs to be a much much stronger reason to reform some of these systemic sexist policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:08 PM

The goal isn't to attract women, it's to destroy feminazis. If attracting women is the way to make that happen, that's a subgoal that needs to be accomplished towards the larger goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:02 PM

Freedom to financially, socially, educationally abuse. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:00 PM

What happened to lurking? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:58 PM
-1

Post got removed, because women wanted to respond directly. Weird but okay. I wrote this as a "Question for men", so w/e
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:55 PM

if you aren't worried, why are you commenting? Just ignore it and move on,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:51 PM

ahh!!! you got me! impressive deduction, /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:48 PM

Get educated, or not, w/e, I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:45 PM

lol, are you worried? chill out dude. everything will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:45 PM

I think that has to do with a lot of gripes they hold onto as a part of trying to get a girlfriend. Trying to be understand, be accepted for who they are, etc. If they give up on those, it's pretty straightforward how to attract the largest number of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:43 PM

Happy slave life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:41 PM

Maybe, we will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:40 PM

You can go to any of the male advocacy subreddits. Below are just some of the issues. Child support should have a cap and it should be paid by both parents, 50/50 custody by default. Paper abortion should be legal wherever abortion is legal. Assets shouldn't be split in a marriage, You own what you earned. Gender differences in incarceration rates for the same crime. In school, boys are graded lower than girls even when their standardized test scores are the same. Selective Service Workplace Fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:40 PM

I will! I'll report in regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:38 PM

I disagree, I don't think it makes sense to be best <Looks, Money, Status> man to empower a system that disenfranchises you. It's like competing to be the best slave. Whats the point? Collateral damage isn't sexy, but I'm not trying to be sexy. The goal is to burn everyone involved. Honestly, Acting like a perfect man is really not that hard, just maximize LMS, while acting kind, caring, and interested with your partner. Plan events together, be attentive, etc. The bar is pretty low tbh, the iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:38 PM

There is no winning in an unjust system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:32 PM

Kind of. If you become a passport bro, come back to the US, and she is relatively fine, your children will still end up living under these systemic problems. Unpopular opinion but this passport bro movement is westernizing women in other countries There are posts about this, so I think it might temporarily make sense to be a passport bro, long term, systemic issues are still going to be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:31 PM

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:26 PM

Just the quoted section, so the men don't have to watch the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:16 PM

It reminds me of the hinge scene in Schindler's List. The gun jams because the prisoners were purposefully sabotaging the guns. They do what they can to take as much power from their imprisonment as possible. Women want men to be perfect prisoners being perfect fathers, husbands, boyfriends, etc and what about the women? They can do no wrong? They are the table? As long as the laws remain the same, Sabotage is the only form of empowerment within this system. Men should act like perfect fathers, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:52 PM

Men pay the price in a society that is kind to only women and children. Child support should have a cap and it should be paid by both parents, 50/50 custody by default. Paper abortion should be legal wherever abortion is legal. Assets shouldn't be split in a marriage, You own what you earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:38 PM

<image> Women ☕
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:37 PM

I like that thought. The capacity to hurt others by becoming so good that they want you, but they can't have you because of their own rules. If I could achieve that before I die, I will have a degree of solace. And my life will have had a modicum of meaning. I totally get this. It's like ironic justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:31 PM

Wishing rn, ill make a plan soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:26 PM

So true! But she will be thinking about me, when she is with him. I hope she is really lost and confused, that would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:50 PM

Maybe one relationship per username, but I'll try harder to lead her on depending on how vile each of you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:40 PM

I could be more specific! What race/age are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:13 PM

I'm bored and a bit pissed, I can get matches. What would be the most devastating?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:01 PM

Is it healthy if, Everytime I witness a woman acting misandrist here, I take a girl out to a nice restaurant, love bomb her, treat her like a princess, and then ghost her? Edit: M, 30, $300k/yr, 5’11”, 165lb, Indian,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:50 PM
5

Yeah, its part of the self-victimization complex some women have. They self-sabotage, don't take responsibility, and expect society to pick up the slack for their mistakes. You just can't associate with women like that. Leave them behind, move forward in life, and make laws that stop that type of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:15 PM
2

Yes! It's so trivially obvious, yet culturally and socially taboo. I don't see democrats or republicans talking about these issues. Yet, they are foundational to the continuation of the union. Literally, as a society we are fucked. Men can't enter into relationships confidently and it is breaking capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:08 PM
3

Yes, the deception. You are absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:06 PM
3

You are right. Men pay the price in a society that is kind to only women and children. Child support should have a cap and it should be paid by both parents, 50/50 custody by default. Paper abortion should be legal wherever abortion is legal. Assets shouldn't be split in a marriage, You own what you earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:00 PM
2

Fun fact: In the United States, 9.7% of men and 8.4% of women experienced any RC by an intimate partner during their lifetime. Men reported more commonly than women that a partner tried to get pregnant when the man did not want her to; women reported higher prevalence of partner condom refusal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:52 PM
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Accounting is much easier problem than reproductive coercion. In the United States, 9.7% of men and 8.4% of women experienced any RC by an intimate partner during their lifetime. Men reported more commonly than women that a partner tried to get pregnant when the man did not want her to; women reported higher prevalence of partner condom refusal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:51 PM
0

So you concede that it doesn't make sense to force people to marry within their tax bracket isn't a good solution? If so, what solution would you propose? That prevents both men and women from being financially abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:02 PM
-2

True, I have always identify as a Liberal, not a leftist. Weird to be voting Republican in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:32 PM
2

You think transactional relationships are gross, and your solution is to force people to date such that the transaction is equal? Why not remove the transaction element entirely? Instead of forcing people to enter into relationships based on money? You think I should be forced to date women making $300k+/year?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:29 PM
2

Isn't this the same logic Pro-lifers use for abortions? Why do you need an abortion? Why not just be more responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:21 PM
-4

You may not be a gold digger, but gold diggers exist. They lie about what they are like to get what they want, and when they enter a financial agreement, they abuse it to the best of their ability. OP is clearly calling out the laws that allow women to act this way Socially and legally women aren't held to account for breaking their commitment to a man Why aren't you supportive of changes in laws that would prevent men from being financially abused? You are providing cover for all the bad acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:14 PM
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Yes, they are, because of my occupation, I get many marriage proposals from family. No, I already know you wouldn't act that way. Why are you defending the women that would financially abuse men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:08 PM
-1

Yes, some beg for commitment for financial reasons. Not all women are like you. Why are you defending women that knowingly abuse men financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:02 PM
2

Learned from their experience here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:52 PM
2

The best part about ppd has been witnessing the slow changes that have occurred to people. Some people have definitely learned and moved on, others not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:15 PM

Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:08 PM

No it isn’t, I am agreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:40 PM

Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:38 PM

Probably right, but I wasn’t successful until recently and women weren’t interested back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:36 PM

They are just girls
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:20 PM

I didn’t want her to have to work if she didn’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:06 PM

Because I’m stupid, probably too many Bollywood/hollywood movies tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:04 PM

College, friends, friends of friends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:04 PM

I used to be so blue pilled, but disappointment after disappointment in women have really shifted my mentality. I always wanted to have a wife and kids. I protect/provide, she nurtures. I spent so much of my life trying to be the man that could earn enough, be empathetic enough, and be helpful enough to make it work. In return, she, whoever she is, would be respectful and nice. The amount of women Ive met that don’t want to be nurturing, respectful, or even just nice to their partners is honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:53 PM

If you can't pay, you need to leave. Would you like to try a Snickerdoodle Cookie Frosty Fusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:55 PM

Maam, this is a Wendy's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:43 PM

The store has other customers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:14 PM

When I buy a coffee from a store, I have money and the store has money, but I still pay for the coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:10 PM

Do what? Want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:09 PM

No I agree, I’m just not surprised men want to pay less. I bet some naively hope to be accepted, just the way that they are. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:08 PM

I’m not interested in lying. How is it gross? It’s the most natural thing a man could want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:05 PM

In my experience, if you stop treating her, she stops being interested. I think it’s biological, women just like when men treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:57 PM

Because I’m Indian, it’s much much harder for me to get free casual sex. However short term dating and a hooker are pretty similar from my point of view. I message the girl, she vets me, we figure out logistics, and I pay for the experience. I’m also not really using women for sex. They are more than happy to participate in dating or being an hooker, otherwise, they wouldn’t participate. What’s your issue with men wanting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:55 PM

If you aren’t hot enough to get (free) casual sex, women are only interested in you as a wallet. At that point, all sex is paid. No difference between hookers and other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:42 PM

Because they want to pay less for a date than a night with a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:27 PM

When I’m elderly, I want to be just like you! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:22 PM

Alzheimer’s must be tough at your age
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:09 PM

doesn’t even try to deny it, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:02 PM

It’s pro-social and good. Make sure to date a girl that wants to turn you on and gratify you as well, Otherwise it’s an unhealthy dynamic. Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:58 PM

It’s genuinely surprising how Jasleen, by herself, validates such a large portion of Red Pill. It’s why men have to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:56 PM

lol, you should post more often, 10 hours a day is rookie numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:54 PM
2

"Back in my day, I walked downhill both ways"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:08 AM
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Yes, too many losers and simps here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:17 AM
1

She is still young, she can get remarried
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:18 AM
2

I think if she breaks up right now, 50% of the last 3 years would be enough to be independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:11 AM
1

Check the flagrant2 subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:07 AM
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That is true, she isn’t truly financially free yet. They don’t have a prenup and I’m not sure at what point half of his income would result in financial freedom. I meant more that she doesn’t have to earn/think about money in her current relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:00 AM

What about this one? https://www.vogue.com/article/is-having-a-boyfriend-embarrassing-now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:24 PM

YAAS QUEEN
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:21 PM

Where are my Jasleen Singh posters?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:15 PM
2

Don’t get too butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:05 PM
4

What about child rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:44 PM

Exactly, why would you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:42 PM

Are you upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:31 PM

At 3k, it seems like you can just fly normal women out. To me brothels seem exploitative and noninclusive. I’m not really interested in ex porn stars. Go on one of the websites and try it out. Pretty sure they are legit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:17 PM

Oh, yes, you are right, I meant charge, not make, idk what the net profit is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:20 PM

Idk what you are saying. These are market rates. I could pay and meet these women. I could set up a profile as a guy and charge my own rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:01 PM

I can’t link websites that show rates. It’s not a statistical average, I’m just sorting by women within 30 miles. Edit: the lowest I see is 250, average is like 550, the highest is 1500 Edit2: the 1500 girl is basically a model, she looks flawless and from her profile seems grateful, agreeable, and easy-going. Edit3: to be clear, I don’t use this website, but I figure I should be able to pay ~$400 on hinge dates if that’s the market standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:49 PM

Where I live in California, women make $400 at least, up to $1000, based on attraction & kink(GFE, massage), etc. I think there are plenty of women that are enthusiastically picking this option over dating. They can screen clients and choose how much they want to work, while maintaining other hobbies or professions. I think they consider it to be a better alternative to short term dating. To me picking a client that pays a $1000 seems really similar to looking for a guy that can plan a date, pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:42 PM
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Why does this read like criticism or a warning? Polygyny is natural and is beneficial to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:17 AM

You know how at the end of Scooby Doo cartoons the “scary monster” was usually some dude/sometimes a woman? It’s like that. The “scary bear,” aka “the monster,” is how a lot of people feel about “random stranger male stuck alone with away from others.” I’m not saying it’s right but enough people have had experiences when, for example, a male they trusted did something “scary” toward them when he thought he could get away with it hence the hypothetical “alone in the middle of the woods.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:41 PM

For sure. Do you understand why to many “physically vulnerable people especially females” a stranger man alone in the secluded isolated woods elicits similar visceral parasympathetic responses to a bear alone in the secluded isolated woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:39 PM

You should have called the Popo on all those incels. You don't owe them anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:30 PM
0

Who is excited for the booty boys in 2028? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:21 AM
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Y'all are cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:00 AM
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No, the format of this paper wasn't to determine which factors affect lifetime partners, even though the data could be used for that purpose. They created distinct categories for masculinity and then mapped those categories onto SES and substance use. All of the variables are hidden within the categories they created. It's improper to create groups and then say the groups predict the variables that comprise of that group. Other studies show that only men in the highest and lowest SES and substan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:31 PM
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Wow! You read it too! That's amazing. I got a different conclusion though. I agree that 'The primary difference between Sex Focused and Misogynistic, was that they don't do IPV(Intimate Partner Violence).' However, based on this study the highest overall correlation related to sex was substance abuse Substance Abused Problems: Normative: .42 Norm/Male Activities: .43 Misogynistic: .52 Sex Focused: .66 This study is likely saying that poor people have 'substance use leads to' more lifetime number…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:41 PM
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No one reads anymore We named the fourth group, the smallest identified at 4 % of the sample, Sex Focused. These men’s endorsement of traditional masculinity ideology and their hostility toward women were low to moderate, similar to those of the sample average. Committing IPV, using controlling behaviors with partners, or perpetrating sexual assault was low in this group. In contrast, sexual sensation seeking levels were high. Sex-Focused men reported low desirability of a traditionally masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:20 PM

Are you baiting a man to mansplain?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:57 PM
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The first video girl is confused. Male and female gaze isn’t about attention directed from men and women towards women. It’s how men and women see men and women. The first girl thinks gaze is only towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:41 PM

Just be empathetic Sexiest occupations for women = ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:02 PM

Can you do a gender flipped version?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:52 PM

Love yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:26 PM
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If that works for you, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:05 PM
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I'm not asking for basic human decency; I'm just shaming those that lack it. Irl, I don't expect basic human decency. If i don't get it, I just leave. Sometimes, the most pro-social thing you can do is to leave and spend time and energy on developing a better group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:45 PM
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In my experience, many women exploit this strategy to get time/energy/attention from men. They will dress nice, be flirty, be giggly, but only to get more time/energy/attention. Near the end they will say "You are such a nice guy, I love talking to you as a friend!". If you are interested, just ask them out on a date. It's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:39 PM
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lol, "I don't care about your feelings", is hilarious. I'm grateful everyday that I have the freedom to avoid people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:25 PM
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Girls have blatantly hit on me at work, but I keep those conversation private, because I'm not a scumbag. Should I have spread that my coworker grabbed my ass, while we were just playfully flirting? Idk man, you are weird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:23 PM
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OP might not have the EQ necessary to understand what occurred. OP had a private well meaning conversation with a coworker. Then the coworker spread the content of that conversation to others. As a result, others have changed their behavior around him. OP is right to feel betrayed by his coworker and distrustful of the office. What would you think if the situation was reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:12 PM
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I've found that if the "Queen Bee" doesn't like you, the others aren't allowed to like you as well. I still think my strategy is better, if inconvenient. Seize your own destiny!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:01 PM
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And if I did, you deserved it. If any man is that sensitive that they cannot handle a woman telling him she does not want to date him or finds him unattractive then those men are not mentally ready or emotionally healthy enough to be dating in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:58 PM
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Gender roles, "Man up!", are part of nature and as such, after social failure, men should be socially ostracized?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:50 PM
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I agree with you. Isn't it surprising that you are the only person here who is critical of her behavior? However, I think it is better to focus on what OP can do. Social acceptance/validation is important. People shouldn't feel uncomfortable around their coworkers. I think focusing on what OP can do, aka leave, is a better use of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:47 PM
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male nature so tldr; man up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:35 PM
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Yeah, I've found that when men post in this forum, there is a distinct lack of empathy from the readers. It feels like the reader starts off assuming that the readers feelings are the only ones that are valid. To me, it feels very narcissistic to not consider the feelings of others when they post. The OP asked out a girl, which is pro-social and good. However, due to a series of events, he feels bad. We should feel sorry for what happened to OP; He didn't do anything wrong. I don't know why that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:22 PM
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That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. "This could end up much worse for you OP but glad that it didn't go down that way." is wild. His future promotions and salary will be affected by his ability to socialize at work. This contextualization minimizes the real world effects of social ostracization. Money is just one easily quantifiable factor of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:16 PM
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She has destroyed your reputation in that group. I'd leave and form my own company, or join a different workplace, preferably with mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:10 PM
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That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:05 PM

Nah, my sisters agrees if other people talk shit about me. She hates my dad and me. I think because my dad worked like 60 hours a week for 30 years, she thinks he is a loser, like other Indian men, including me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:31 AM

My older Indian sister hates all men other than her tall white rich husband. She was a staunch leftist feminist until she saw Usha Vance and now she is a full on Tradwife SAHM. Fairweather women. I was red pill before red pill existed. Thanks sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:22 AM

Man, I really feel like participation in this forum has gone down! There used to be such a diversity of opinion! What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:12 PM

Send me his number, so I can tell him he deserves better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:22 PM

I ended it because I wanted to travel full time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:10 PM
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So… I’m hot… emotionally? 😅 Why do you think some women want endless support/validation? I honestly thought they would fill the void and grow up at some point. I grew out of those friendships, but I never understood why they were emotional black holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:41 AM
0

Women are so overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:01 AM

Yeah, go on onlyfans
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:59 AM
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If she feels insecure, she should do things to make herself feel more secure. It’s not the guys fault she doesn’t know how to keep/secure men. I’m sure yelling and correcting men is the way to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:56 AM

Whoa, dude. Shouldn't we empathize with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:39 PM
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Lmao, kinks are freeing, but not a great basis for a relationship! Good relationship + kinks -> happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:38 AM
1

Why use many words, when few words do trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:54 PM
2

Feel free to spank some youths in the name of✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:12 PM
2

Congrats! How are you feeling about the gender wars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:07 PM
0

Are y'all unemployed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:46 PM
1

Okay, but is it wrong to use different words? It might help some people to better distinguish between good friends and bad friends. Some people unironically think, It's better to have bad friends than no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:28 PM
1

I agree, people have lots of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:26 PM
0

Honestly, true. I've found that the friends that have stuck with me for over a decade are a lot more like pseudo-coworkers that I like to go to parties and events with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:24 PM
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Like half the girls I held hair for while they were vomiting at some party are now successful in their own careers or finishing up medical school or grad school. Lol. I'm a guy, no holding hair, but I also had a similar experiences. I've noticed "the half" of friends I have, that were "successful in their own careers or finishing up medical school or grad school" are much supportive and respectful as I start my own company. It's much much easier to plan events, hangout, etc. The vibes are better…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:19 PM
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I agree with you on the destination, "finding a life partner who generally aligns with my goals and values", however, I think making a distinction between friendship and camaraderie can help people with the journey. I think people spend too much time supporting circumstantial friendships, when they could be directing their energy towards building deeper connections with people that already are aligned with them in life. A comrade is like a friend, that would share the burden to reach a common go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:07 PM
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"Im_rarely_wrong", doubt and humility play a role in the development of a healthy ego and allow for healthy change throughout your life. Please do some self-reflection whether you value your ego over change and happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:47 PM
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You should get help. It's not natural to not care about how you live, even if we all die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:41 PM
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Thank you! I’m glad this was helpful! Now more than ever, it’s difficult for boys to build trust in society when society doesn’t have a shared understanding of fairness and equity. I think deep down some of the commentators here know that the man and the girl are at fault, but choose not to say that because they are willing to sacrifice trust in society for their personal benefit. I think recognizing these bad actors and learning how to live in a world with them, through a fair system of values …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:47 AM
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I don't care if it hurt their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:54 PM
0

do you think your comment was remotely appropriate in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:50 PM
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Flip the gender and this is how you sound to me How exactly did the man deceive the woman who wanted to get married to him? I dealt with women like that in my mid 30s several times. They were creepy, and I don't care if it hurt their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:47 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:35 PM
0

Girl says to his face he is sweet, but calls him crazy behind his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:13 AM
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Right, I am talking about marriage desirability, not relationship desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:10 AM
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If my friend called me insane behind my back, and then said I was sweet to me directly, I would 100% feel deceived. If you don't think that, then I think your point is valid and we live in two very different worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:57 AM
1

Would you say the same to women trying to get married? You can't just tell him you want to get married. You will have to try and make a move in the normal way gals do, with all the attendant risks of rejection. I personally do agree with both statements, but the reality is that since "normal" changes, its difficult to pin down "moves", especially for more naïve people. I think it's easier to just communicate state what you want and explain that "If they want to, they would".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:47 AM
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Didn't use chatgpt for anything here. I did cherry pick this topic to talk about it here. Have a good one dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:31 AM
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We should teach men to distrust women through Yes, It's black and white for the prepositional phrase "through" and its followed by - "Not all women but always a women" for these types of situations. It's not unconditional, which is even more apparent for the next statement We should teach men to verify expectations from women - "If she wanted to, she would" Which implies that you should trust what women do, if they do do it. Overall the goal of the post is to point out how to socialize men to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:25 AM
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When people say, you should do something, that isn't them attempting to brainwash you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:08 AM
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I wonder how fucked up you have to be to believe any of the bs you wrote. Imagine he does commit suicide and you are here supporting the person that deceived him. Linked the quote btw, feel free to reread the linked post more carefully. Literally at the end of the first picture <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:05 AM
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How much brain damage do you on a scale of 1-10? The title says "to start off distrusting", not "trusting everyone nor distrusting everyone". Next time read and then respond. You are arguing a completely different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:57 AM
0

Thanks! Weird that people in this sub are supporting the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:52 AM
0

Do you think its justifiable for the man to not tell the woman that he didn't want to marry her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:51 AM
-1

She agrees with the person; they are similar mentally. Why would she, and you, consider that an attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:50 AM
-4

Do you think the girl hid anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:18 AM
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It’s just thoughts. If your mind can’t handle thinking of more than one thing, you probably shouldn’t be on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:16 AM
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How so? I compare lying in a friendship and lying in a relationship. Also do you believe the girl is a good person? Do you believe the man is a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:15 AM
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It’s helpful for me to understand how evil people can exploit others. I wrote this for myself first and others after. It shouldn’t matter where I come from; the value of my words should be looked at separately from any appeal to authority. I am us citizen though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:14 AM
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You are defending the girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:10 AM
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Yes, they should specifically say “if she wanted to she would”. That’s how we should socialize boys. None of the comments imply that line of thinking tangentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:09 AM

No, I have decade old friendships with women, but yes call me… a misogynist? Nothing I wouldn’t expect from someone like you. Call me a creep and insane as well. That’s what the other girl did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:06 AM

I think you two are cut from the same cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:35 AM
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That's great. I hope it's not where the boy and the woman lived. I'm sure they thought they lived in high trust communities prior to their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:54 AM
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I hope the boy is not dead, but if it is, I'll remove the post when that is confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:46 AM
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She should have told him then at some point in the 4 years of their friendship, in the same way the man should have told the woman at some point in their two year relationship that he didn't want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:42 AM
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I think “not all men but always a man” is fine, but I think we should also use “not all women but always a woman” in other situations. fair is fair. If the goal is better communication and these phrases help, it doesn't matter to me if I catch some shit from other dirty men. I can hold my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:40 AM
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Communicating your needs in a relationship is not becoming needy and desperate. It's just communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:38 AM
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In the way that having a friend means you don't call them insane and a creep behind their back, while telling the friend that they are nice and sweet. The girl can choose not to be interested, that isn't the point of this. The deception is in the expectations of the relationship and the progress of that relationship with time. The woman deceived wasn't entitled to marriage in the same way the boy deceived wasn't entitled to a relationship. However, the lying affected their current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:37 AM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=CY8E6N5Nzec She already got you hook line and sinker. You give attention, you get nothing. She says don't mess it up, it's working for her. You should get out of that one-way friendship, she don't respect you. And if the group you are part of doesn't respect you, you should get out of that group as well. Both relationships are toxic and one way. You give time energy attention, you get nothing. Don't question why, just adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:36 PM
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Then answer the question about your blue pill experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:57 PM
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Nice tone policing! Men this is why you need to create private groups and protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:50 PM
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It's a mens issue not a women's issue. Women shouldn't comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:41 PM

Google "modern day indentured servitude" and you will find every country has some version of it. Where do you think we get lithium from for our phone batteries?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:28 PM

Labor, indentured servitude. Y'all acting like this isn't happening rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:18 PM
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I don't care. I have a group of guys I'd go to war with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:06 PM
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The problem isn’t what’s happening to men. The problem is giving men the “victim” status. If women start off thinking, “I deserve help because I’m a victim” and then a man says, “im a victim, because I’m a man”, then by that logic women have to help men. However, women don’t want to help men, women want everyone to help and care for women, probably due to female in group bias. That's why you will see "HeForShe", but never "SheForHe". The specific issue doesn't matter. Men could have higher suici…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:27 PM

Gen z women missed the time of dating where they could be strong independent, but expect traditional partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:19 PM
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So, guys should go for dumb bimbos?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:15 PM
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Like a dumb himbo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:48 PM
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There should be toggle on hinge that says $: you pay, 50/50, I pay Anything that adds clarity is a good thing I don’t need to know justification. I would just acknowledge that this relationship is conditional on my paying for it. Yes I don’t care about paying, but I do care about clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:53 PM
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Just state your needs and breakup if they aren’t being met. It’s not that complicated. You never need to commit to someone unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:36 PM

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/cBR4rJ5QSSw
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:15 PM

What do you think about shivon taking grimes baby name? https://np.reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/1fimldn/so_thats_why_she_wrote_that_poem/ Edit: also grimes tweeting at Elon about medical emergency for their kid? https://np.reddit.com/r/grimezs/comments/1iu9svs/grimes_trying_to_reach_him_too_through_x_her_baby/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:44 PM

Elon having a dozen kids to like 5 women is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:00 PM

Which freedoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:25 PM

Individualism supports freedom choice to build community. Individualism just doesn’t force you to be in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:02 PM

I do want to cook healthy for me and family. It’s one of my goals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:00 PM

Make them build the rockets!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:57 PM
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I don’t think he should complain in the first place. Fix the issue, don’t complain, or find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:45 PM
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What are you saying? They shouldn’t complain? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:34 PM
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You could have the same criticism for people that get vaccines. Paranoid or just dirty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:02 PM
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If you believe in Marxian economic theory then you believe all labor is inherently exploitative and you would believe that this type of relationship even if the participants choose it of their own free will is wrong/exploitative. There hasn't been a stable Marxian economic system in history and assuming that applying Marxian economic theory to dating would work when it hasn't for capital is ridiculous. Labor/employer mismatches The corollary for this is partner/partner mismatch, and the efficien…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:16 AM
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Yes it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:55 AM
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Men can pick either role, both are good and necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:57 PM
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I actively do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:03 PM
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This starts of pedestalizing one type of relationship over the other without any metric to support that belief. Why are you categorizing a relationship breaking up as a failure of the system? Do you think quitting a job is a failure of the free market? Your worldview is biased. What metrics do you use to categorize the health of people and their relationships? Longevity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:17 PM
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I agree. No one is more important than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:14 PM
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Yes, I agree with you that "one annoying behavior doesn’t make the person you are with bad partners". However, I also think that if the negative behavior is worse than the benefits of the relationship, I definitely think you should feel free to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:13 PM
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You shouldn't even shame women who expect perfectionism. The market will set expectations naturally over time. Things will work out without us having to shame anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:09 PM
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And having a voice and opinion in your relationship doesn't depend on whether you're following or leading. I never said otherwise You're essentially saying "followers" (which is a stereotypical feminine role) can never "review" and hold standards, and that men are absolved of being shitty partners because the woman can just find better. Men are absolved of being shitty partners. Society doesn't need to correct their behavior, they will just be single. Who would work for a shit company or hire an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:07 PM
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But relationships are different than jobs because the point of a “follower” complaining about a “leader” in a relationship is to tell the leader that “overall I like you (for whatever reason), but there are some things that I think that you should change about your leadership style or the choices that you make. Agreed, Follower can complain In an employer situation, this is not possible, because one employee does not have the power to change an entire organization. Disagree, Employees don't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:47 PM
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There are plenty of bosses with one employee. One person can date many people. The dynamic is the same in all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:29 PM
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If relationships aren't mutually beneficial, we probably shouldn't be in them. If a woman is in a toxic relationship, with a horrible husband, she should definitely leave. The behavior you are describing, shaming women for choosing the leave, is harmful and stupid for people trying to create healthy relationships. The only people your shaming benefits are those that want unhealthy exploitative manipulative relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:27 PM
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no relationship that has a leader/follower dynamic is gonna be healthy People can pick whether they want to be a leader or a follower in their relationship. It's definitionally equitable and fair. If you don't believe the leader/follower dynamic can be healthy, do you think that dancing with leader/follower is unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:20 PM
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It's only adversarial when the roles and responsibilities get jumbled. Both follower and leader are important and I think it's completely fair for people to pick whichever identity they want to hold in a relationship. In well functioning teams, leaders and followers are both happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:15 PM
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This is only an issue when there are a few number of organizations. Employees can just quit and get jobs at other similar organizations if there are enough of them. Followers/employees can always complain or quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:14 PM
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We can agree to disagree. For most people "Quitting" and "Firing" are distinct, which is probably why we have different words for them. For most people "Complaining" and "Reviewing" are also distinct, which is probably why have different words for those. I think you are removing the nuance of unequal relationship dynamics to misrepresent and obscure the roles and responsibilities of the participants. If you don't believe in this, feel free to fire your boss tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:08 PM
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Those men are acting like leaders right? A good leader says feel free to leave. Those men that are reviewing that behavior, leaving, and classifying it as "bad" are bad leaders and bad men. Followers should always be able to leave and find someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:01 PM
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My friendships and coworker relationships don't have this dynamic, but I have noticed that when dating, a follower/leader relationship comes up often. I'm happy with either role, but there are plenty of bad leaders and bad followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:58 PM
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No, I think "nagging" in that scenario is exactly what I think is unhealthy. If you are a follower, you can change your circumstance by picking a better leader leaving If you are a leader, you can either fix the issue yourself or delegate the task. If that doesn't work you can dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:56 PM
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No, You missed the point. They are entirely distinct. An employee can't review their boss, and a boss can't complain at their employee. It's not right. A boss sets the direction of the company, the employee picks where they want to work. These are distinct too. Idk how, but you missed the entire point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:53 PM
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Dump her and move on. Exploitative relationships should be pruned from your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:15 PM
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This study was retracted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:47 PM
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Yup, it’s still unequal. Men have to draft to vote, women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:42 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:42 PM
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What about as the default? In Sweden the default is 50/50 no custody
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:35 PM
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I trust people to act humanely in those situations. Yes, your needs aren’t being met, but it’s not on purpose, which is entirely forgettable. The men divorce sick wife thing was a mistake btw. https://np.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1dprzly/men_divorce_their_sick_wives_study_retracted/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:16 PM
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For 50/50 custody, no need for child support though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:12 PM
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Meh, I think individual safety, through prenup, lets you cooperate more freely, like in marriage. I’m still pro marriage, but not at the detriment of individuality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:53 PM

Some women liked being pedestaled
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:51 PM

True, honestly humanizes woman a lot more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:49 PM
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Prenup makes sense though right? If you do have assets coming into a marriage and no child support for 50/50 custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:47 PM
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Why can’t people be free to divorce or terminate any relationship where their needs aren’t met. I think it’s perfectly acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:19 PM
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It’s not a matter of intelligence. Sometimes the other person stops cooperating even after clear communication with them. it makes sense to divorce. It’s really not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:18 PM
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Agree, divorce is healthy Edit: prenup and no child support for 50/50 custody are also healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:12 PM
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lol, give it more context. A guy on purplepilldebate is has posted a question for women entitled “”, using definitions created by ChatGPT. The first comment says “” and the OP said “”. What does this say about the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:02 PM
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In the United States around 1800, voting was largely limited to white male property owners. Estimates indicate that roughly 6% of the total population was eligible to vote at that time. This low percentage reflects the many restrictions in place—women, most African Americans (enslaved or free), and Native Americans were excluded from the electoral process, and even among white men, property ownership was a key requirement. By 1900, that number was 15%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:29 AM
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What does me being an activist have to do with you calling me weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:11 AM
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Wow, what an interesting question! I don't know. I've never really thought about why I personally care. I just feel grateful about being a citizen. I feel a sense of civic responsibility to do my best to understand perspectives, movements, and policies. I do feel like "America is an Idea" and I honestly just care about doing my best for myself, my community, and my country. I guess if you can't relate to that feeling none of this would make much sense and would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:24 PM
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What do you think about in the 1800s when only white, tax-paying men could vote? The "difference in biological power" would be the same between tax-payers and non-payers or black and white. I can see how saying "farm work is work" is not empowering pre-1800s, but what about after?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:42 PM
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Can you give an example of policies that you advocate for, but most liberal groups wouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:01 PM
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Do you look for contention to help you differentiate other things? Yes, my ability to discriminate or differentiate based on contention helps me in life. For instance, if I need to repaint a section of a wall, I might use a paint swatch to help me differentiate between which paint I want to use to repaint my wall. I don't agree that any choice a woman makes is feminist just because its a woman making it. I don't think sex work is empowering. For both men and women? or just women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:00 PM
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This is liberalism, right? Liberalism – A political and philosophical ideology that emphasizes individual rights, personal freedom, and equality under the law. Most Contentious Take: A just society can be achieved through gradual reform within existing political and economic systems, without requiring radical structural change. Ideal World Order: A democratic, meritocratic society where individuals have equal legal rights, opportunities, and personal freedoms, with minimal government interferenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:53 PM
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Not to be more weird by asking, lol, but why is it weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:51 PM
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As a (mostly) libfem, do you have any policy changes you would like to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:47 PM
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Do you have an example of legislature or simple education you would like to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:45 PM
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Thanks! I'm getting downvoted, probably by my haters, which is a bit funny. If you have a better more accurate statement, feel free to provide it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:44 PM
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I'd like to see a major revamping of how public schools are funded. Do you have an example of a change in policy at the state or federal level you would want to achieve equal opportunity? How are you measuring equal opportunity? Side-Note: have you seen this video on "Liberal Hypocrisy is Fueling American Inequality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:42 PM
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Are you advocating for controlling individual attitudes? In a liberal society, there likely will never be a consensus on individual attitudes. The best you can do is associate with people that have the same idea of gender roles as yourself, which I think you can do now. Are you currently happy in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:34 PM
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Do you feel like the parts of patriarchy that are bad will eventually go away on their own or do you think there are certain changes we need to make to make it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:24 PM
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How? Do you want a change in policy? Can you give an example? Alternatively, how do you know that we haven't already accomplished your goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:17 PM
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Is this a good definition? Intersectional Feminism – Recognizes that gender inequality is interconnected with other forms of oppression, such as race, class, sexuality, disability, and more. Most Contentious Take: Mainstream feminism has historically centered white, cisgender, middle-class women while ignoring the struggles of marginalized groups. Ideal World Order: A society where all forms of oppression (sexism, racism, classism, ableism, etc.) are dismantled together, ensuring true equality f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:13 PM
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Why would you need contententious issues to help differentiate? For me atleast, it helps to differentiate between different types of feminism, by looking at differences beliefs and policies on those issues. All of it. Can you help me differentiate between Liberal Feminism and Non-Choice Liberal Feminism? What would you advocate for differently than a libfem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:10 PM
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Everything else should go out the window. What is the mechanism through which this occurs? I think I understand the end result, but how do you want to get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:51 PM
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The definitions do that. It definitely helps me to differentiate. I hope it helps others. But I disagree with some points, especially choice feminism. Choice Feminism – Emphasizes individual freedom and personal choices as the foundation of feminism, asserting that any choice a woman makes is inherently feminist if made freely. Most Contentious Take: Any choice a woman makes—whether embracing traditional gender roles or rejecting them—is feminist as long as it is voluntary. Ideal World Order: A …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:42 PM
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Probably this , but I don't think they alone are enough to fix gender inequality issues Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:30 PM
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A mix of all of them. Each of them do differ on important areas. Do you preference for one over the other? The "contentious takes" bullet is to help differentiate between the three types of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:28 PM
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I asked chatgpt to help differentiate. Chatgpt: What would be a question that would help differentiate between the two? "Do you believe gender inequality can be solved through legal and policy reforms alone, or do you think the economic system itself must be changed to achieve true gender equality?" If they believe legal and policy reforms (such as equal pay laws, anti-discrimination policies, and workplace protections) are sufficient to fix gender inequality, they lean more Liberal Feminist. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:25 PM
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Eliminating all gender roles. I would love to live in a world where absolutely nothing is assumed about me based on my gender. Can you expand on this? What does this look like in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:19 PM
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Thanks for your response! To me, each of the above feminist points of view could be interpreted as "Garden variety equality of the sexes", by proponents of that feminism. After all, who would advocate against equality? I asked chatgpt to help clarify: Can you make three sentences, one for each type of feminism, like "I believe in 'garden variety equality of the sexes', in that ___" to help someone determine what type of feminist they are? Liberal Feminism: I believe in 'garden variety equality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:02 PM
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Are the radfems you don't vibe with, TERFs for instance, against your libfem values? As a libfem, which parts of radfem do you vibe with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:47 PM
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You should read their other history, for instance, their comments in female separatists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:01 PM
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Recently I've come to some self-realization that lib fem isn't something I can subscribe to anymore, mostly because of the inconsistency in certain beliefs. I’ve also become skeptical of social feminism and whether it carries any real meaning or utility. I often joke that rad fem is the only acceptable form of feminism, even if I don't 100% agree with it. For Lib Fem vs Rad Fem, why are you leaning towards one vs the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:41 PM
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Hello again u/ExcitementLow4699 ! Accidentally happened upon this. The person you are talking with doesn't believe you have the agency to make these decisions for yourself, nor does this person think you are capable of feeling things correctly. That is the "New Left" position of the past, or far left socialist position of today. The Moynihan report was a good example. The assumption was that fatherless, mother-dominated families were a "bad thing." (Implying the converse 'mother-dominated famili…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:25 PM

Oh. I don't mean variance in price by experience, I meant variance of price per experience Variance is a statistical measurement of the spread between numbers in a data set Comparing apples to apples, in this example girlfriend experience to girlfriend experience, the variance is lower in a free market than in an underground market. This is like buying heroin, when it was a component of Bayer cough medication legally, vs. buying heroin, on the street today. The price of street heroin is signific…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:08 PM
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When they charge what they like, is there a lot of price variance for equivalent services? Like sex is $100 typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:58 PM
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If you are talking about food, I’d hire a meal prepper for 6 days /week and eat out like once. If you want other cool things you can get like a wine tasting monthly subscription or something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:53 PM
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It’s legal for male work to be packaged this way. You should make this company if you like the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:56 PM
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Sex workers have irregular pricing due to government interference. In free markets, sex work ends up normalizing in price.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:47 PM
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Why all-in-one? Who would hire an all-in-one plumber, mechanic, it guy, policeman, firefighter? Better to split services by specialty and market individually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:23 PM
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I’m saying they will trade 10 years of standards for 10 years of standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:55 PM
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I’m saying those men already date women that have spent a decade working on standards they set in high school. What are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:42 PM
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Wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:22 PM
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The guys that have money realized bills and expenses were important in high school. They pursued competitive fields in college and only start making real money after a decade of work. They set their income standard in high school. Do you think those men should pursue women that set their standard now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:26 AM
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I think she is incredible. I like that she is open, empathetic, and honest. She paid even even when the other girl asked her out. Was able to see the other side of inappropriate jokes. Didn't make a fuss after the other girl was misleading about her needs. I think maybe you just have a different communication style and that's a fair reason to swipe left on anyone. I'm sure she would think the same for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:39 AM
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Dating women made me understand men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:04 AM
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I'm happy for you and I respect your life choices. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" doesn't look the same for everyone. Truth, Justice, and the American Way :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:55 AM

god we are so fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:18 AM

People are regurgitating propaganda, without realizing it. If you are basing your stances by what makes you feel best, you have probably already been infected. Your stances on social policies should be based on evidence based socioeconomic research, not what makes you feel best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:05 AM

should be provided by society 'Should' is debatable. 'Can' is more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:51 PM

Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, and Education is not a need, so no, we're not going to set up a self-service of doctors, tax payers, social workers, and teachers as slaves just so you can be healthy, safe, not poor, and not dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:44 PM

So OP's point is completely irrelevant, even if his (faulty) premise is accepted, which makes the entire "debate" he's trying to have moot. Really? What is my point and what is your point? Please explain!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:43 PM

Aw, do you feel similarly tired when Feminists talk about needing governmental childcare to participate in the labor force?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:27 PM

There's a grain of truth in every joke. c:
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:24 PM

I'm not advocating for sex to be a human right. Education isn't a human right either, but we still want an educated population.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:23 PM

When we say, "Hey, I need someone who can learn how to become a diplomat for the US government", do you think the Department of Education is creating a class "US Diplomacy: Job Function"? No, the department of education provides tools, through classes like history, english, writing, math, that can be used for people to succeed to then achieve societal needs. If the government looked at sex/friends, it wouldn't fill the need directly, but indirectly through similar mechanisms. The book "Of Boys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:16 PM

It's insane to say that capitalist markets create "perverse incentives", when the origin of that term is from horrible government policies that create perverse incentives in the free market. However, I agree that need/want/human right can cause confusion for those that don't understand those words and how they interact within the larger context of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:02 PM

Technically, I agree with you, but even education is not a "human right". We provide it in the same way we provide water, because we value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:57 PM

By what logic? You think doctors should be slaves to make you healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:52 PM

I agree. "Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, and Education" aren't human rights. We might feel like we "want" them, but we don't "need" them and we are certainly not obligated to receive them from the government. When we talk about modern societal structure, we are talking about a complex interplay of wants as a relation to the society we are in. Pre 1930, welfare was primarily done through private charitable donations, it wasn't 20% of our tax dollars. People might want welfare, and feel it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:51 PM

You are so totally wrong. Vivek Ramaswamy suggests Department of Education will be ‘deleted outright’ by DOGE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:40 PM

Do you think we can outlaw fat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:35 PM

Yes, exactly! Nothing is a need! We as a society have no obligation to one another, we are free to choose how we should set up society. So... Lets get rid of it all! Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, and Education, send that shit out the window! Feminists shouldn't complain about any of it! None of it is a need!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:29 PM

You don't have a right to immortality, the government doesn't need to give you cancer treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:21 PM

If you can classify sex as a need, there is an obligation to provide it No. There is not a need to provide it. The supreme court has ruled that education is not a need, yet we measure and monitor the education of our populace, because education is "needed" by our society. Is sex and gender relations "needed" in our society? We measure the education of our students, should we measure the sexual/gender health of our population?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:17 PM

It absolutely ties in. How can we talk about the interplay of gender relations in a society without discussing 4 out of 5 spending criteria. If someone was posting about government spending for transgender surgeries would that be appropriate? If we can discuss the micro level issues, why can't we discuss the macro level issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:12 PM

Immortality isn't a need, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:08 PM

C: I wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:00 PM

Would you say the same for Feminism? No parts of Feminism play a role in Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, or Education? Edit: These are political issues, deeply rooted into Philosophy. From a certain point of view, it's all philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:55 PM

That's not what taxes are for. We chose those set of taxes based on our past society. We can change all of that, whenever we want. Most taxes are paid by men If society isn't catering to men, why should men cater to anyone at all? Back to the elephant in the room, Sex is not a need, so no, we're not going to set up a self-service of woman sex slaves just so you can get laid I'm not advocating for woman sex slaves. I'm saying why are we advocating for Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, and Edu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:51 PM

All 4 of these categories play a huge role on Sex and Gender in society. Healthcare Gender/Sex related surgeries Social Security Impact on family planning and especially old women. Welfare Welfare Queens Education Relationship between schools and female labor
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:44 PM

Would you say the same as criticism of Feminism? Feminists shouldn't play a role in Healthcare, Social Security, Welfare, or Education? Past posts that talk about this Healthcare Social Security Welfare Education It would be insane to say these 4 topics have never come up in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:43 PM

Oh. My. God. Is this satire? I'm literally mocking people that are evaluating the value of an individual need without the context of society that it is in and you just doubled down on it. Edit: Do you understand the problem highlighted by the original proverb is neither "the lack of warmth" nor "the burning down of the village"? The proverb is about the feeling of the relationship between a society and its people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:50 PM

“A child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”- African Proverb "WaRmTh Is NoT hUmAn NeEd" - PPD Geniuses
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:13 PM

PPD is great. I am getting much much better at identifying signs of narcissism, sociopathy, conditional empathy, illiberal ideas, and other bullshit. Horrible people are truly everywhere. Digging through this shit is a pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:13 PM

An ounce of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:52 PM
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So, then if someone chooses to be a sex worker, they are getting raped when they are having sex? Someone choosing to have sex isn't rape. There's a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:59 PM
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Based on your other answer, Yes, you can't just stop the process of physical trauma from working at jobs with high workplace mortality. You can die from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:55 PM
2

Is that what happens when you donate plasma?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:52 PM
2

What about jobs with high workplace mortality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:50 PM
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None, but that's changing the subject, because rape is inherently nonconsensual. I don’t believe that true consent can be bought. I'm trying to understand whether you think "People can't consent to contracts that exchange labor for money"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:45 PM
0

What do you think about financial contracts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:26 PM
1

We agree that neither party should feel exploited. I think you have an arrangement, one that doesn't involve the state, where you both do not feel exploited. Great! I'm happy for you. If something changes and one of you now feels exploited, how do you reconcile the difference in feeling? Let's say your boyfriend starts having issues at his job. He gets laid off and when he goes to the doctor, he discovers that he is developing early onset alzheimers, which runs in his family. Due to this conditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:14 PM
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Google “Rockefeller Feminism”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:05 PM
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No, I didn’t want her to be interested. I just don’t understand how she became randomly interested in me after I cut her off. Seems really weird. She should have showed interest a decade ago, when I might have been interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:38 AM
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You're acting like I don't provide emotional support for women. My female friends have anxiety and love to talk to me, because I can listen, understand and help. I'm saying there other things I do, that I'm required to do, as a part of society, that is absolutely unrecognized, unappreciated, and taken for granted. I'm treated as 'one of the girls', until I need to step up as a man. Maybe there was a way to resolve it, but I stopped hanging out with my female friends. The level of support I provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:37 AM
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I go out with some girls and they get into a fight with a guy. I stop him potentially at the cost of my safety/security. How are they going to reciprocate? This has happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:15 AM
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I’ve realized women are absolutely the ones that ask for help in social settings. They ask me. If you don’t have anything to offer, stop wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:09 AM
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Spoken like a narcissistic sociopath displaying conditional empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:57 AM
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That’s descriptive of how fuckbois act. Redpill is about figuring out how fuckbois get women. Y’all are fighting shadows rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:30 PM
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I totally disagree. The only times I feel happy in my relationships are when I can trust the other person. If I am being exploited, I can't imagine feeling happy. I can imagine that she wouldn't want to feel exploited either. I'm not interested in a marriage built on foundations that erode trust and cooperation over time, even if I am currently feeling happy. So for me, equality matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:36 PM
3

You know, I'm happy you are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:23 PM
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It's called a Push Present. If I was romantically happy in a relationship with a woman, and she wanted to have an equal marriage, I would happily pay for a push present or a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:20 PM
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I'd easily pay for a surrogate, if it meant an equal marriage. You can use the monetary value of the work as basic benchmark to define the "Tit for Tat" and in a healthy household it should end up even. If you advocate against tit-for-tat, I assume you are picking a strategy that either opens you up for exploitation or opens up your partner for exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:11 PM
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Did you go 50/50 when dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:00 PM
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When I talk to Victim Women, sometimes I get the impression that they think if life is fair, it will also be easy, and since life feels hard right now, it must be unfair. Life should be fair and not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:57 PM
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Doesn't this read like "Deny, Defend, Depose"? What in the fan fiction? Deny Now, a lot of times, circumstances like traumas, religions, and socioeconomic resources can distort someone's "equal partner" filter. Defend Yes, it does seem like there's a shortage of people who are able to adult and handle responsibilities. Depose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:55 PM
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It's okay not to support people that don't support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:35 PM
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My sister socializes concepts against men of my race. So if anything, she is actually worse than most women I meet. I hate her and other racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:52 AM
2

Can you say the words "Yes, Smelling nice is more important for dating than being calm and emotionally stable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:34 PM
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Honesty(#5) is actually important and not being able to understand(#7) that is so weird. Wouldn't you want to support(#3) men and tell them its more important to smell good(#4) than be calm, emotionally stable(#20), if you want to get a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:53 PM
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I honestly don't get it. You posted the table. I highlighted the difference and picked a bar, an absolute magnitude of around 7, based on what I felt like would highlight the biggest difference between stated reality and perceived reality. I don't get how you are downvoting and attributing malice towards literally subtracting and highlighting the maximal difference???? Edit: I checked my fucking math. Mean is 4.228571429 And guess what, 1 Standard Deviation is 8
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:29 PM
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<image> u/leosandlattes , This is why guys say "Women don't really care about emotionally stable, calm men, they care about guys that are attractive, sexy, and have a nice body." "When women say 'confident' what they really mean is hot." Many guys will be like. I went to the gym, I got more attractive and less confident because I developed body dysmorphia, but I get women now and women will say "no! thats not possible" Edit: Patient is -8, that's what I get for trying to do the math in my head -…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:21 PM

Yeah, I agree, but it'll be worse for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:53 PM

Depends on which fraction of people you hurt. Bottom 5%? Mostly men. Bottom 50%? Mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:29 PM

Trump is bad to men, but leftists are worse to men. Trump is the lesser of two evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:27 PM
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May this type of love never find me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:06 PM
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Call to action to what? Return to a social norms that is already exploitative? There is no win condition for those men. When trump says shit like, "what do you have to lose?". https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/aug/20/trump-calls-for-black-votes-what-do-you-have-to-lose-video He isn't talking about me, who has a life, 401k, and other prospects. Or you who is concerned with women's rights. He is talking to the 40% of men that have been absolutely destroyed in society. Men, like me, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:28 AM
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Lol, OP would probably respond, "wElL mOsT MeN aReN't CrImInAlS" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:03 AM

Only topics that allow women to socialize and virtue signal are allowed from men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:46 PM
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That's Female in group bias definitionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:42 PM

Who cares? Find someone who will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:36 PM
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Wow an example rather than an answer. You exemplified female in group bias and exploitation of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:34 PM
3

No go back to making fun of them! That'll work!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:57 PM
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Approximately $5k a year is stolen from each man in taxes each year. Men pay more into society but collect much fewer benefits. Life is like a bar, but girls play for free and men pay $15 dollars a day. https://avoiceformen.com/featured/research-finds-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:42 PM
3

Yes, shame boys for... "Being wrong ever"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:24 PM
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Have male friends if you want male friends. Don't do it because you should or w/e. Do it if you want. OP is trying to gaslight you into thinking she can breadcrumb you into creating and supporting a social fabric that women can and do exploit. Men create friendships, spaces, events -> women force their way into male spaces -> women start socializing rules to pedestalize women in those spaces -> men leave -> repeat OP wants you to create those spaces so women can exploit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:17 PM
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At its core, the narcissist's manipulation of memory is about control. They rewrite the past to protect their ego, maintain power, and keep others dependent on their version of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:56 PM
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Just leave, other girls want that too. You are trading your time energy and empathy for nothing. Male friends with similar life goals are a better usage of your time. Don't wait, someone that is exploiting you will never want to see your point of view. You have real value that is being exploited
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:21 PM
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They feel guilty using you for emotional and societal validation, while providing nothing to you in return. You should feel exploited. Leave them and go on dates. It's better to be around no one while being authentic than being around people that don't support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:13 PM
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https://youtu.be/7z6YTyvCxRY?si=2_XngG_6PXtWD8u5 The woman in the clip likely created the single motherhood problem for you. She managed welfare in your state. It's like an origin story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:58 PM
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They do care. They want men to struggle privately and have the losers die out quietly so that they can get the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:54 PM
3

That's not a problem. It's how women are designed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:46 PM
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What do you think about the welfare system destroying black culture? https://youtu.be/2GklCBvS-eI
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:28 PM
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If you form a group, don't tell women. Definitely disguise it using an activity like 'gym'. Otherwise, they will find a way to shame it, emasculate it, and erode it over time. Women don't want you to be happy without them. They will do whatever it takes infiltrate the group if they want a partner or destroy the group if they don't want their current partner to find happiness. Women want you to only socialize and work for their benefit. It explains why every new hobby and group that men form is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:54 PM
1

highly-attractive supervillains
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:09 AM
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I think that's it! It feels like if we lived two very different lives, but developed in such similar ways, with such similar principles. It really feels like we went through some sort of convergent evolution! This type of contract feels like the natural evolution of our upbringing and what we should pass down to the next generation. Let me know if you agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:51 AM
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Lastly, the New Social Contract. In my other two comments, I attempted to breakdown the traits of quasi-autism into an "unusual starting state" and "development response". I think a New Social Contract should start by minimizing unusual starting states in society, attempt to maintain the best principles that we have independently discovered, and lastly develop a way to build incremental trust and value through this contract. The Contract We agree to work towards developing usual starting states …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:41 AM
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Development Response I think some of your key elements for your development response are principles that I abide by as well. I have intrinsic value "everyone has intrinsic value regardless of social value, and that these things are different" I am willing to embrace failure to eventually succeed "I've always been willingly going outside of my comfort zone" "Some will call this "masking" but I see it as learning, personal growth and genuine change" "I pushed myself to practice and fail repeatedly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:11 AM
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Your word choice and conclusions for pivotal moments of your life are very similar to core principles I've found to be true in my life as well. It's not in the same order, nor are the circumstances the same, but it's shockingly similar. These are some parts that resonate with me. On your view of Autism The paper I linked above suggested two key elements of Quasi-Autism. The first was an "unusual starting state" in life. The second was the unique "persons development response" in the face of that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:46 AM
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My theory is that me and you, while of a different sex, maybe were undersocialized, missocialized, or dissocialized between the ages of 0-5. It's possible that we had to organically assess how we feel, compare it with rules in society, and figure out on our own our place in the world. There are obvious downsides to how I was brought up, but the biggest positive is that I am significantly more authentic and confident in myself. I identify first as myself, then as a human, and then as man. I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:50 AM
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Reading this comment and some of your other comments, I finally feel like there is one other person out there who can see reality for what it is. I want to break the fourth wall of this subreddit a bit and see if we, the two of us, can create a fair social contract from the ground up based on the liberal, in terms of individual rights, society we are fortunate to be in. Before I get into that, I want to talk about why I think we are the best people in the world to do this. Quasi-Autism vs Idiopa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:50 AM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-man-behind-a-third-of-whats-on-wikipedia/ A bit i think. Definitely a bit saturated with focus to create background blur
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:18 PM
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Rate - Steven Pruitt Bio - Steven Pruitt is an American Wikipedia editor and administrator with the largest number of edits made to English Wikipedia, at over 6 million, having made at least one edit to one-third of all articles in the edition. Pruitt first began editing Wikipedia in 2004. He has also created more than 33,000 Wikipedia articles. Pruitt was named as one of the 25 most important influencers on the Internet by Time magazine in 2017. Pruitt edits under the pseudonym Ser Amantio di N…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:12 PM
3

do you read smut? do you mastrubate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:46 AM
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Yes, my ex would read books like, A court of thorn and roses, and then call me over. 10/10. Responsive desire is not an excuse to make men feel like they have to work to earn sex. If you like sex, you like sex. Also, "If she wanted to, she would"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:26 AM
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You are describing the logistics of how to set up a maintenance schedule to ensure proper function, rather than genuine feelings on both sides of wanting to care for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:19 PM
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Maintenance sex to keep it working 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:17 PM
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Even if you can live up, i don’t think it’s worth it. If you can’t naturally succeed, you are setting up your progeny to face unnatural struggle. Lowkey fuck that shit. Make bank, go on vacation, have fun. Fuck working to work to work to work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:20 PM
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This is a troll account right? No way women are this stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:06 PM
1

Conditional empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:04 PM
1

Conditional empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:46 PM

rip social contract
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:18 AM

What happened with Thomas Matthew Crooks? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:22 PM

Aren't half of books smut? Use your imagination! Also there was another half of the question "Answer which guy is the more risky choice and which guy has the female gaze."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:20 PM

Is that how you would categorize the "Q4M: Would you rather be the Risky choice or the Safe choice in a woman's eyes? Why?" post as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:14 PM

How come you didn't answer the question then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:11 PM

What are you trying to say decent/safe is not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:10 PM

lol, I don't need moderation to enforce my point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:05 PM

Feel free to answer how you wish, but be sure to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:02 PM

Removed the photos, so it isn't a "looks post" now. I thought it was getting a bit too chummy in here with the safe/risky and female gaze post lol Also, isn't first comment supposed to be an answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:00 PM
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Then why is it that the exact opposite of what you said has proven to be true with chadfishing and just life in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:59 PM
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lol “this is where you have it wrong”, proceeds to explain in detail how it’s right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:35 PM
1

As risky as I can be, as safe as I must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:19 PM
1

How confident are you in your answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:51 PM
2

Is the goal of therapy to empower men to act how they feel and choose what they want or is it to tell them how they should feel and act?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:13 PM
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He is absolutely coherent. Even with perfect birth control use, accidents happen, but only women have agency over accidents. I'm pretty sure something as simple as an agreement regarding consent to pay child support prior to sex is all he is asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:58 AM
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Is RP closer to a belief system, like a religion, or closer to a sociology theory that describes human behaviour? Do you think RP has truth across time and in any country or is just true now? Did learning RP make you feel better? Do you wish you never learned? Did the application of RP make you feel better? Do you wish you never had to learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:04 PM
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Anyone that learned something new should really question how much they know about women. Young women absolutely want to be with the hottest richest high status guy, not for sex, but because they want to feel validated as being sexually desirable to these men. This is when women put the most effort into sex to get picked by the high status guy. Older women don't give a shit about validation. They like rich and high status guys because they can put in effort towards caring and comforting them. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:09 PM
-1

Out of sight, out of mind. Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:01 PM
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Ew. Do you work in politics? Stats are stats, doesn't matter who says them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:50 PM
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Pretty sure when guys agreed to the above, they thought that women would also be mining coal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:56 PM
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They should give you a tag "Abusive Shit Tester"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 04:24 AM
1

This weird worthiness thing is the abusive part. Also I have no idea what you are talking about. You just post so often everyone is forced to read your posts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:51 AM
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OPs question "Q4BP/PP: What is the point of modern relationships/marriage?" You I don't even know why you made this post if you, too, (like the other ten men I asked) are going to dodge the question about depriving women of sexual pleasure. Apologies in advance if you are in fact the singular man willing to address this. ??? You are actually just abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:32 AM
4

Sharp just blames men and says random things. Don't take it personally
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:54 AM
2

Wow! Sign me and my sons up!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:05 AM
2

Women literally lack a-count-ability
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:48 PM

It just hit me, that some of the women that post here might raise sons in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:51 PM
2

Okay, he talks to her, she says she is interested in other types of guys. Now what should he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:31 PM
2

So talk to her about your crush?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:26 PM
3

What advice would you give a guy who has a crush on a friend that isn't interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:17 PM
1

Love you dude, you got this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:21 PM
2

Lmao, that wasn't my intention, but I totally see it. There is something to learn from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:22 PM
5

Yeah, but from their perspective, you sound like you are someone intolerant in general and you are taking out your intolerance on others. From that perspective they are commiting the same social taboo as you. Letting people be themselves means letting men be angry and letting women be intolerant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:14 PM
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They have the agency to do that and that might be how they are being themselves. It can't be just be yourself, but also not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:54 PM
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You can be yourself, have things not work out, and still be okay. I think tons of men are like that and it's nbd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:31 PM
3

It does work, you just have to act like someone else, which is unsustainable and doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:59 PM
7

That's black pill. Black pill says, it doesnt matter if you act like yourself or others. You are doomed because women only treat a minority, 10%, of men well. Red pill is descriptive of how women respond to different types of men and how one can enter the frame of those types of men. Aka, look for indicators of interest, be outcome independent, work on yourself. This is in contrast to blue pill, which just states be yourself. Book recs Blue pill: don't sweat the small stuff Red pill: no more Mr …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:17 PM
1

Just be yourself. Better to die alone than curse your sons and their sons to struggle forever. You can still be grateful and vibing. Sometimes you feel more alone in a relationship than outside of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:55 PM
2

🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:21 PM
11

Honestly, are you okay? You are on here every day and your position is just blaming men for everything wrong with their lives. It's okay for sexism/patriarchy to affect men. Maybe you perpetuated sexism in your past, feel guilty about it now, and you feel a need to post on here to get validation or something, but it's not too late to change. I don't know you, but you can just choose to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:03 AM
10

It was structural gaslighting of men by society. Don't retcon structural sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:46 AM
44

Men: "hey, can women not choose the bear?" Women: "Lol, look this guy is talking to me." Men: "Are you okay?" Women: "Lol, look he cares"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:37 AM
7

Yeah, the Elon Musk fan boys are disgusting. Too bad the left villainized the Bernie bros, not that Bernie is a role model. I don't hate Mark Cuban, but the existence of billionaires is a threat to an individuals ability to compete fairly in our liberal democratic capitalist system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:05 PM
-1

Redistributing power doesn't have to mean going back to failed economic/social organizations of government. We can redistribute within the current system by voting for fewer taxes, anti-trust legislation, removing money from politics, unionization, etc. Anything that increases power, security, and freedom of individuals will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:55 PM
-3

If the primary problem is power, the solution is a redistribution of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:37 PM
8

Totally agree about compassion and empathy, but I think compassion means letting men step away and choose how they want to engage in society. Forcing cooperation from men, especially into patriarchal gendered roles for men, effectively neuters a man's ability to choose how they want to live, because it forces men to direct their labor to an unequal tax system, an unjust family court system, and an unfair school system. We don't need resolution from women, we need to change a system that exploits…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:15 PM
1

Can you make one for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:25 PM
2

Thanks for considering this view. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:35 PM
1

Yup, no good boy points. Men, what's the virtue in contributing to a society that doesn't value you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:12 PM
1

I'm not owed an apology
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:02 PM
3

Forgiveness without an apology? No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:01 PM
1

ITT; a bunch of people confusing a debate with a debate on the virtue of a debate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:00 PM
-4

Pretty sure he is arguing over the virtue of arguing man vs bear with women who are unempathetic, unkind, and distrustful of society. He is debating if the debate itself is worth it. The top comment misumderstands his position and then the majority of the comments are ad hominems against him. There should be more posts on the virtue of debate in general. Clearly, anytime a red pill man brings up any systemic sexism the blue/pink pill use it as an opportunity to emascate all men, raise the bar, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:57 PM
2

Thanks! I'll check it out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:42 PM
2

The average woman doesn't trust the average man because they are unwilling to acknowledge the contributions men make to society. It's easier from a sexual competition perspective to set the moral standard to "men can only do wrong and women can do no wrong". That way any argument can easily be won be emasculating the guy if his feelings are hurt, emasculating the guy if ever does anything wrong, and emasculating the guy if he is critical of women. Men shouldn't stop arguing, but instead call out…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:37 PM
-8

Woman's role in society has evolved over the last 70 years, while the role or men has not only remained stagnant, but remained consistent through laws. At the end of the day, the woman chooses her sacrifices, while a man can not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:38 PM
1

Oh are you anti abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:07 PM
4

The movement is for the change in laws
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:03 PM
2

That's fair and your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:02 PM
-1

I think the man should have agency is choosing where the output of his labor goes, in the same way woman have agency in choosing the output of their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:01 PM
0

It's an innate moral responsibility. Upholding it externally is as inhumane as upholding a woman's moral responsibility to birth children through laws. If your body is your choice, why is my labor not my choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:59 PM
-3

I trust men and women to figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:49 PM
0

Do you think women should be legally obligated to replace a societies population through birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:48 PM
1

It does answer your question though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:47 PM
-3

I trust men and women to figure out how to take care of children
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:42 PM

My labor, your choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:42 PM
-2

My labor, my choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:38 PM
-4

Men's financial contributions shouldn't be controlled by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:37 PM

My labor, my choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:36 PM

My labor, my choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:36 PM
-5

The responsibility for the next generation without agency falling on men is unfair. Men's financial contributions shouldn't be controlled by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:30 PM
-2

Sure, we can get rid of both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:27 PM
-8

Men's financial contributions shouldn't be controlled by law. Don't pay more taxes, don't pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:26 PM
-11

Men's financial contributions shouldn't be controlled by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:24 PM
-13

"real men" -> enforcement of social norms What is the role of "real woman" in society? If we are no longer beholden to one another, we shouldn't have laws that dictate men's role in society without any agency. My labor my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:21 PM
2

Did you skip one of his arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:08 PM
1

Are some women growing up to be Disney villains?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:06 PM
2

"IMO they either get here because they don’t interact with women often or well enough, and/or because they consumed misogynistic content and internalized it." Assigning agency for the correction of societal problem on men is classic WaW and misandry. It'd be more equal to say, "Women shouldnt, but can and do exploit men, and society often promotes the notion that women cant exploit men. First, Women shouldn't exploit men and men need to learn signs of exploitative woman. Second, society shouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:48 PM
1

Its definitely not a silver bullet and the protection you get from it is, is directly related to how you use the business. I would do more research.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:58 AM
3

Yeah, those men are silly. They should follow r/fire and other financial independence movements. Financial freedom is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:56 AM
4

Capping child support would make more sense. Why do children need a percentage of income?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:31 AM
1

No, anyone reading this should definitely consult with an attorney before making big financial decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:29 AM
-3

I partially agree. I think the practicality of this advice might change in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:26 AM
0

Let's agree to disagree. Anyone reading this can and should do their own research.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:23 AM
1

I'm unclear why dating in your 20s is so problematic for some men. That's okay. We don't need to empathize with everyone. Also, a business doesn't protect you from anything. People sell their businesses all the time as a result of divorce. 🤷‍♂️ Depends on when you start the business and how you manage your marital funds. I would recommend reading up on business vs personal and community vs separate property on google or reddit. Ideally, hire a lawyer and figure things out. Starting a business ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:13 AM
0

Good financial advice is good financial advice regardless of the actions of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:58 AM
1

If their Indian and Chinese moms did say that, I think those boys should take my advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:56 AM
1

That's really awesome. I think having options allows for you to feel safe and comfortable with yourself. Freedom lets you be the best version of yourself and choose how you want to live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:51 AM
-2

It just doesn't matter. Preventing yourself from being exploited is good general advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:48 AM
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It's a bit of a paranoid take, but sometimes women act differently before and after marriage. Society forces a constant level of financial commitment in marriage through mechanisms like child support and alimony. I think that men should be able to vary their financial commitment in the same way women can vary their emotional commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:45 AM
6

Totally agree. Women should absolutely do this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:41 AM
1

It's more about options for me. In the event of a typical marriage/divorce, I wouldn't even be allowed to cut off my nose to spite my face. No one should have to go through this, but not having the option to, in a capitalist world, feels like financial slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:40 AM
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I think any man making more than 200k/year should seriously consider it. I also have a gut feeling that as more men follow this strategy, it will get easier and cheaper to do business in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:37 AM
1

It depends on which entity owns the assets. If you start an S-Corp with funds and use the S-Corp to invest, the investments are owned by the S-Corp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:35 AM
0

Honestly, true. I'm not sure about moving abroad, but you should definitely be allowed to choose to be in the relationship you are in. If you are a good person with good intentions you shouldn't feel trapped by laws and social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:33 AM
-2

Not for me, I was making 300k/year as an employee. If I can't make that amount as business income, I honestly don't deserve it as an employee. I'm okay with a challenge in life that provides me greater security and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:31 AM
2

Do I need to give you stats? The Sheryl Sandberg quote from her book "Lean In" is enough for me. Honestly, if you replace her gendered language, the book is good advice for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:29 AM
1

If you start the business before marriage and manage it correctly during the marriage, it likely won't be counted as community property in the event of a divorce. There are ways to fuck this up, but this is at worst a bit of protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:28 AM
2

Agreed, this is definitely gender/sex independent. By separating business income from personal income, your alimony or child support payments are reduced, since they only affect personal income. You can do weird things like set up 401k matching through the business, which would eat up your business income, while protecting your personal income, while still affecting you as a person. If you start the business(s-corp) before marriage and don't comingle funds, it should be easy to avoid giving half…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:23 AM
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Starting the business before marriage partially protects the business, which is significantly better than no protection on your income. Also, if you don't combine marital funds and business funds, that adds another layer of protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:00 AM
1

Choose not to be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:07 AM
0

You could meet someone else who is fun
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:45 PM
-1

I wouldn't say "you can’t have fun without respect", I would say "if someone disrespect is getting the way of your having fun, you can't have fun, and that's a problem, because you aren't have fun" Just have fun, just go sail. Don't worry about respect, dignity, empathy. It's not that important, unless it gets in the way of having fun, or sailing. The difference between our perspectives is the difference between "working out so I can be healthy" vs "working out so I can play with my grandkids"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:35 PM
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I think you should adopt two dogs. Get one that isn’t fun, like a pitbull that you can’t take for a walk because it isn’t trained well and will bite you, and get one that is fun, like a Labrador that sometimes pees when it gets excited. Which dog do you want to spend time with? Do you even want the badly trained pitbull? I’d rather no dog than one I can’t have fun with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:12 PM
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The problem isn’t the lack of respect, the problem is the lack of fun. It’s about mindset. Focusing on having fun is a better North Star for a relationship than maximizing safety and security. Otherwise it’s really easy for people to always feel unsafe and never have any fun. A ship is safe in the harbor, but that’s not what ships are for!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:06 PM
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If she is making demeaning comments, slapping, and cheating, that is like a dog that bites you. Working on the dog and fixing that behavior might make the dog less likely to bite you, but that doesn’t mean the dog is fun to be around. You should focus on having fun, otherwise all you are doing is trying to make a perfect dog that doesn’t really do anything. Go have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:59 PM
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You are describing things that aren’t fun, like a dog that bites you. You arent having fun with a dog like that, the dog is mostly just biting you. Why try to play with that dog?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:55 PM
0

If you aren’t having fun, there is no need to work on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:50 PM
1

When does that happen? What do they have to say or do, such that you let yourself feel valuable important supported and understood?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:22 PM
-2

You can eat food, dance, travel, explore. What’s fun about respect empathy dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:21 PM
0

You could meet someone else who is fun
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:18 PM
-1

How much respect and empathy? Can you quantify it? When is enough and what happens when you have enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:16 PM
0

I’m just saying, dogs are great even if they piss on your leg sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:15 PM
1

Right I agree. Promotions should be based on merit. I would never add points based on DEI. However, as a leader and facilitator, I would spend time to learn about others, such that I could highlight their "true merit". During performance review season, I would have 1:1s with engineers and make sure that their performance packet accurately reflected their work. It was a non-trivial responsibility that I would do in addition to my IC work. Additionally, I provided engineering ideas and xfn connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:53 AM
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Yeah, that's fair, I wouldn't advocate for a group that constantly talks smack about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:30 PM
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I honestly don't know. When I worked at a tech company, I do know that I definitely helped many women and DEI candidates get hired, as a part of interviewing, and get promoted, as a part of performance review, and it's horrible to admit, but I definitely don't feel the urge to do that anymore. I kind of felt like, "Hey these people have lived an unfair life and are struggling, I should help them", but now, I don't feel like those people would ever advocate for me. Would they ever help me get hir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:15 PM
0

I will. PPD has definitely convinced me that Social Liberalism should definitely go hand in hand with Financial Liberalism. I definitely definitely will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:24 PM
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I’m fine with that as long as we structure our taxes similarly. Let people do whatever they want socially and financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:01 PM
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SS is not like a 401k. The contributions are pooled and redistributed. If you paid more and die, it doesn’t go to your next of kin. What you said earlier “what they get back is based on how much they earned” is equating input to output, which is not true. What am I saying is a fact, I honestly don’t know what you are talking about. Social security is not a protected individual investment. You can definitely get more out of it than you put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:55 PM
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lol, do some research. You don’t know how SS is structured. What you are describing is not how it works at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:49 PM
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Sick, exploit the empathy of others when they are advocating for the socioeconomic norms that they feel are best. That’s a really smart exploitative strategy to garner sympathy, instead of being honest and open about your strategy in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:46 PM
0

….. Everyone - Women = Men ???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:42 PM
3

Yes, and? Are women entitled to the labor of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:39 PM
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That’s cool, but if those movements aren’t inclusive to men’s opinions and voices, they will fail, unless you find a way to “kill all men”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:38 PM

For the men that this woman is ignoring, this is what antisocial behavior looks like. This person doesn’t value your opinion and does not believe in the same socioeconomic rules you ascribe to. The solution is not to beg them to come back to the table, but to drop all support for them in society. These women are deciding, without your input, how they view society should function, but you are an important member of society. Your input is as valuable as theirs. However, if they choose not to coope…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:32 PM
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It’s not emotional safety from men, it’s replaced with emotional safety from other women. Women tend to idolize feminist icons as if they will succeed along with them. If Taylor can do it, I can do it! That’s the emotional safety I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:15 PM
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Go to South Korea, you will find plenty of like-minded women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:02 PM
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What we have done in society, with all our social safety nets, is basically guarantee that that 15 y.o. fat kid gets liposuction, ozempic, and whole host of other treatments subsidized by healthy members of society Except with women, the treatments are feminism for emotional safety, the government for financial safety, and the police and military for physical safety. Women have no reason act in public pro social ways in the same way the fat kid has no reason to act in pro healthy ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:51 PM
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I agree, but then we should be willing to change our tax code to accommodate loose connections between people. For instance, single older women are the largest beneficiaries of social security, but we assume it’s fine since those women likely had kids and families that offset their net negative financial contribution to society. If we assume that men and women can do whatever they want, our tax code should be similarly liberal and allow people to retire at the rate they choose based their indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:42 PM

I ask to remind people that our institutions only hold power because we want them to exist and empower them to exist, therefore we can trust them. After BLM, in some cities, police are no longer wanted. Isn’t it valid to ask “why is the legitimacy of an institution important” in situations like that? ACAB and Defund the police are conversations centered around delegitimizing the police. Also, fuck your fucking tone you dumb piece of shit. Think for a couple seconds with your brain. Apply yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:24 AM
2

So what are the improvements in the system and who needs to make them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:38 PM
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Because at the end of the day, people always form relationships, work together, and improve the system over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:31 PM
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The game is changing -> everything changes always, it’s a part of life. Instead of looking 80 years in the future with despair and hopelessness, see what opportunities open up for you as a result of the changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:24 PM
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Absolutely it will lead to less social trust, because the institution of marriage can be exploited. However, I think your mentality of trying to save or preserve marriage is what leads to isolated individualism. Essentially the game is changing, and you don’t like the changes, and so you are upset. Instead of being upset, just don’t play that game then! You aren’t entitled to the previous definition of marriage. Move on and grieve what you believed you were owed and live in the world we live in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:17 PM
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Why is the legitimacy of an institution important?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:01 PM
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Yup, the world as it is, is always the way it is meant to be. Individually, complaining is wanting to set a beneficial social standard and complaining that others don't want to uphold that same standard. I think instead of complaining, people should stop trying to uphold social standards and do exactly what benefits them the most in every situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 PM
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If men want to fuck around but not settle, it makes sense to be purposefully economically unattractive, but physically attractive. Women are attracted to both to a certain degree, but finances matter less for dating. They likely won't want to have kids with your or get married if you don't have money, so you never have to deal with those conversations. Especially since, child support, alimony, etc go from the higher payer to the lower payer. Men can purposefully go for low income jobs that give …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:36 AM
1

What is the intent of my question? I am actually curious. I can just respond normally, but I'm interested what you think my perspective is, or what I am about to say next
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:06 AM
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From a dating perspective, is it better for the man to be physically attractive and financially unattractive or the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:49 PM
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From a dating perspective, is it better for the man to be physically attractive and financially unattractive or the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:49 PM
2

when women and their children get what they are owed What are men owed? If nothing, women and children aren't owed anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:22 PM
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Are you looking for equity or equality for the distribution of funds? Are you also going to check for equity and equality for the tax that enables these funds?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:09 PM
6

Based on what Ok-Piece7204 said, why did you guess "government mandated girlfriends?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:06 PM
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Wealth transfer is usually referring to a government redistribution of capital. For instance, the AFDC, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, was a program that transferred wealth to women. Due to the structure of the program, it financially incentivized women to stay single. It was reformed by the PRWROA in 1996.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:54 PM
7

Why would you guess that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:48 PM
-3

😘🍆🧦
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:57 PM
-1

https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1ewaeba/comment/lixlwym/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:00 PM
2

Equality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:26 PM
5

Don’t take responsibility for the world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:22 PM
4

0:1, no men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:11 PM
1

I don’t have any specific career advice. For life advice, Trust your feelings, add energy, discover and explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:34 PM
3

Gratitude!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:13 PM
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TLDR abs I didn’t have much money early 20s, but I worked to retire by 40. My dad sacrificed a lot working 55-60 hrs a week for 30 years and I didn’t want that lifestyle. I got lucky with some financial goals and at 29 hit my half my FIRE mark, which was early considering compound interest. I had a creative difference with someone at work and realized the work wasn’t fulfilling me. I quit and have been working on my company ever since. I got therapy, worked on my interpersonal relationships and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:11 PM
0

That’s totally fine. Do your own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:20 PM

Love you, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:50 PM

I think deep down you know I’m right. Conditional empathy has never worked and liberalism is definitely the path forward. I’m happy pursuing responsibility, accountability, ownership, and clarity for myself and the people around me for the rest of my life. I love my life. Good luck with yours
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:16 PM

Yup, but is being “all in” working? Have you seen the numbers? They are getting worse with time not better. Running it independently is a much better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:41 PM

No. You are bitter. You are so focused on punishing the top 1% you don’t even realize you are hurting the bottom 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:36 PM
2

Who cares? Just make sure to date someone that fulfills your needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:27 PM
0

Yeah, those women. That’s how you claim victimhood. It’s like victimhood appropriation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:23 PM
0

She is a bitter toxic woman that wants men to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:17 PM

This makes sense. It should be equivalent to surrogacy. That way you have the option of carrying yourself or not. Edit: half the cost, since you are basically paying yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:00 PM

No. Your worldview is toxic. Your empathy is conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:43 PM

it does seem you're doing it for no reason other than to show your lack of trust Trust can be exploited though. Bringing clarity to the conversation on financial needs is healthy. Sure you can skip the conversation, but if people are actively avoiding this converstation topic, I’d think they are trying to exploit their partner. You should always ask, does this increase noise or reduce noise? If it increases noise and someone is advocating for it, they are either trying to exploit you or are leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:19 PM

No, I would feel relieved that you can take care of yourself, that you not only have your financial needs outlined, but don’t require someone else to meet them. Frusciante went through so much alone. His music and success are not due to $1.6 million of sacrifice from his partner. I’m glad he took the lump sum option so he can fully move on. Healthy humans can take care of themselves. We have designed a system of equal opportunity and employment. $1.6 million is criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:02 PM
13

True, the red pill just lets you escape the matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:21 AM
4

For a marriage relationship, I have a lot of needs. One need is children, hopefully 2-3. I will ask for that and if whoever I am dating doesn't want that, we aren't compatible. If they are biologically too old to have children, I will still platonically love them and want them to be happy, but they wouldn't be able to meet my needs. I'm fine marrying someone who is 30. To be clear, if I don't satisfy her needs, I fully expect her to break up with me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:17 AM
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Women my age want to settle with me, but I am a bit busy right now starting a company. Also, as I said above, our life schedules won't match. I wanted to date more when I was younger and have a long relationship, which I then turned into a marriage, but I wasn't attractive enough to date casually. I'm in my 'glow up' phase right now. I'm not going to stop until I am satisfied sexually. I'll consider a relationship that could lead to marriage after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:46 AM
4

I'm 30 and no. The timeline I have for my life fits the biological timeline of someone who is ~24-26.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:26 AM
1

Probably both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:16 PM
4

Yeah maybe, but it's consensual. Why are you trying to yuck someone elses yum?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:22 PM
-5

Indentured servitude of the false claimant to the affected party
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:07 AM
6

I’m starting to think that a core part of growing up as a guy is to realize and accept the disgust inherent in women. There is no avoiding it, all of them have it, you just have to find someone with other good traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:28 PM
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I’m a guy and I’m not sure if I care that much anymore. Who cares what women think? Just fuck girls until you feel physical/sexual confident. Then if you want a relationship have a relationship with a girl who meets your needs. No women is truly special, why not just do what you want with the time that you have? Why try to pedestalize anyone? You only live once. Why let someone else’s perception of reality supplant your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:20 PM
1

It's weird to have such approving comments but such a low like count. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:12 PM
-4

Whatever you say pookie!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:22 AM
-10

January I'm asking for your definition of exploitation to make sure we are aligned. Can you define exploitation of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:47 PM
-2

Do you think men can be exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:47 PM
-8

Do you think men can be exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:46 PM
-4

He's asking for it. Thank god! The masks are finally off in PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:38 PM
-2

Wow! Victim Blaming! These comments are gas!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:34 PM
-1

Holy Shit Dude! It's not about the motive of the guy! It's about the women! Why are they there? What's running through their mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:32 PM
3

Is it really “preying” when it’s the very thing the rich man wants? The above comment is why we need posts like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:30 PM
0

Sure you are allowed to think the dynamic is gross, just like I think "both sides"ing an issue after one side is criticized is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:29 PM
-15

Why don't we agree on a definition of exploitation of men first?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:24 PM
-3

Weird all of a sudden I saw that thread myself and saw nobody calling those particular women victims. Turned into I could dig further for "misandry"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:21 PM
-16

Do you even think men can be exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:20 PM
-3

This guy has internalized misandry so much, that he can't even understand the concept of attractive women actively preying on rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:12 PM
1

How did I end up at this mansion in Ibiza!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:08 PM
5

You found no examples of Normalization of misandrist comments about the man Comments that remove agency from the women to victimize them None? I saw that thread myself and saw nobody calling those particular women victims
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:05 PM
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She wondered if she could handle a relationship with a maimed war veteran. Then she swiped left, removing him from potential matches. “I feel I’m not ready for that.” Edit: What kind of coward downvotes without commenting on a direct quote from the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:37 AM
0

I'm looking for a man in finance Trust fund, 6'5", blue eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:04 AM

I've got nothing useful to say!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:00 PM

https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1cc17du/why_do_some_men_seem_to_refuse_facts_to_remain/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:56 PM

Why do you care about complacent men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:45 PM

The people who are dating make sense. But what kind of weird loser do you have to be to go on PPD with a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:46 PM

"complacency is unattractive" Work slave!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:43 PM

Can we blame the matriarchy if Kamala wins? Yes we Kam!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:17 PM
1

Oh, so are you against additional welfare for poor people with children?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:57 PM
0

So are all the women here mad and single?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:44 PM
2

We talking movies? Does Titanic fit this theme?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:02 PM
3

The comments here are definitely accurate. I've never heard a girl brag about a guy she used to date or who was hitting on her at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:39 PM

Your mom
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:17 PM
2

https://youtu.be/VVvVSAn_g2E
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:14 PM
4

1) She already knew 2) You didn't do anything wrong 3) Attraction is non negotiable Absolutely true. Your best bet as a guy is to write down what you want in a relationship and then proactively seek it out. It's definitely possible that in 10 years, she will change her mind, but you miss out on a lot of personal development and fun in exchange for validation you won't value in your 30s. Be curious, have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:13 PM
3

?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:09 AM
4

This is so weird
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:22 AM
8

They also tend to underrepresent problems of nonwhite communities. They talk a lot more about upper middle class problems, but tend to ignore problems of the lowest quintile of people. Many arguments related to "I dont know anyone who... " are stupid due to the demographic of people here. I'm pretty sure like half of Americans can't read above a 6th grade level and 20% are functionally illiterate. I'm guessing that group of people isn't on ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:41 PM
4

"Ladies, listen to men.." and that's when I decided to downvote -Women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:31 PM
2

Lmao, someone is definitely self reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:21 PM
2

I'm surprised this post is still up. Usually fact based posts that support men get removed as blackpill content or no research links. Wild to have a debate subreddit where referencing research isn't allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:55 PM
2

Your lived experience more than data?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:51 PM
0

You right, but it doesn't fit the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:50 PM
1

Don't worry about it. You aren't responsible for the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:37 PM
0

The classic manipulators UNO reverse card trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:55 PM
2

Being an incel has nothing to do with your virginity status. There it is! Gaslighting! Are you seeing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:43 PM
0

^ This is again not an answer. Man this question really brought out all the manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:33 PM
0

That's definitely an example. Gaslight - To manipulate another person into doubting their perceptions, experiences, or understanding of events. The above is the definition I am referring to. --- Here is an example of gaslighting --- There is an overweight girl in high school who often gets called weird by her classmates. One day, she musters the courage to ask them, "Why do you call me weird?" They respond with, "It's normal to call people weird. Everyone does it. It's just a joke; you're overre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:18 PM
0

Really? How do you define it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:28 PM
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I am going to go through the other comments here about how they are gaslighting, victim blaming, or something else. Don't give up! Be steadfast and Resolute! You can do it! There are many, many worse things you can be called in life than weird This is the normalization of unmet needs through gaslighting The amount of people so triggered by being called weird is quite weird. More normalization of unmet needs through gaslighting? Weird usually means no social skills/lack of social awareness. Somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:23 PM
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Yup! It's the weaponization of beneficial social norms to push expectations onto others. By creating moral and social value signals, people can signal to one another their positions in society. People that benefit can latch onto the message and work together to exploit the people that are considered weird, essentially allowing a priveleged class to exploit others for some social or financial benefit. There isn't a solution if you are part of the outgroup. They will continue to try tactics to red…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:14 PM
1

"adults who pay into social security, have choices while kids have none" lol, Social security is not a choice. People paying taxes today pay for social security recipients today. Why can't children receive a cut of that until they are adults? Why are we only securing retirees? It doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:03 PM
1

Insecure people react badly to be being approached. Secure people take it as a compliment. Some secure people reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:56 PM
1

That example is crazy. It's like you got into an accident, you went to a chiro and then the chiro broke your back. You now sue the driver for your chiro. Yes one came after the other, but the chiro was your decision! Yes, babies can occur after fertilization, but carrying the egg to term is your decision! If it wasn't abortion should be outlawed. Also you don't answer any questions. I asked many, you answered none. This is pretty bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:27 PM
1

That's like saying we punish old people by forcing them to work for social security coverage in old age. Like are you serious? Let's say you paid 100k+ in taxes of which 20%+ goes to income security programs. How would you give money to children in poverty to help them to help themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:22 PM
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What's wrong with unwilling men running off? A fertilized egg is not a baby. Its like a weird prolife argument about "well she should have just practiced absistence!", But when applied to men, it's fine. it's literally a double standard. I explained my reason for why child support exists in my post. Why do you think it exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:06 PM
-1

Yeah, okay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:10 PM
1

You answered none of my questions. Do you just hate men? Willing parents that discuss their level of financial commitment before giving birth would obviously provide a more stable structure for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:08 PM
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I'm paying one way or the other for parents that abandon their children. I'd just like a better system for my money to help children. Can you be honest? What do you think about childhood poverty today? Do you think children are better off now or 50 years ago? What economic factors do you think led to that? What is your stance on AFDC? Please for the love of god have a stance that isn't, OP is a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:00 AM
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Children aren't mistakes. Can we stop saying that? Why are we punishing the child for the childs circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:21 AM
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It's not "indentured servitude", like in the 1700s. It would be like social security, you pay into it after you start working, like all other taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:05 AM
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I am pro abortion and very liberal. I do think if there is an accidental pregnancy both people should be allowed to have options, such that they can make informed consensual decisions about the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:46 AM
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Why should a child's wellbeing be subject to the instability of parental income?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:41 AM
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Are you serious? I am responding to you in good faith. Fathers who feel shame about their parenting abilities or their ability to provide for their families may avoid spending time with their children out of fear of being judged or criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:31 AM
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Honestly, this isn't even about benefiting me specifically. I'll likely marry a high earner as well and do just fine in society. The issue is that a large chunk of my taxes is going towards income security programs that are harming children instead of helping. I'm more than happy paying taxes, I'm not trying to create cycles of generational poverty. Here is a quote from Bill Clinton saying essentially what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:26 AM
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I am exactly the same political. I plan to vote D, because Jan 6th was an insurrection and I don't want a king. I also think the supreme court reform bill is based. However, some of these social welfare policies are really hurting us as a country. I am looking at the numbers and the numbers are going the wrong way. Many democrats agree, such as Bill Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:17 AM
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My suggestion is gender neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:14 AM
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First, I think of those classes you outlined, supporting children would obviously be the best for our economy. Second, I think decoupling child support from guardianship, will remove the antisocial pressure of some policies, like the AFDC, which would boost prosocial interaction, which again would boost our economy. I genuinely think that if we standardize support for all children, we would have a much better economy overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:13 AM
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Alimony is not the default Common law marriage There isn’t one default child support system, at least not across the US. ok In theory none of these contracts are a one way street from men to women. Agreed But okay. If I, a woman, skip out on my husband and kids one day, should I pay child support? What happens if you skip out, by dying? Should the child then suffer because of the chaos of reality? What happens if you can't provide adequate care because you are also taking care of grandparents? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:00 AM
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You stated in your first paragraph that we as a society are spending more money on welfare programs that aren’t working but then in your last paragraph that’s exactly what you’re suggesting the solution is. No, I want programs for children over money to parents. Many income security programs benefit parents instead of their children. For instance, the "Aid to Families with Dependent Children" was a horrible program that created anti-social family pressure . It was removed by President Bill Clint…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:55 AM
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True, but most contracts are entered voluntarily like 'getting a drivers license or passport'. I am talking about contracts that are entered through accidentally such as through common law marriage or an unwanted pregnancy. I think these contracts only made sense during peak patriarchal social norms and are now outdated. I think newer, better policies would help in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:40 AM
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Assuming I am broke but willing to be a father, I will still participate in the child and mothers life. Instead of being shamed by society, I would still be a father in other ways. If I was shamed, I wouldn't be as likely to play a role. Atleast the child gets a father, even if the child doesn't get piano lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:32 AM
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I agree. Although, I think the bigger problem of people not having kids, is for the government. I think instead of disallowing kids, we would instead have a real discussion on alternatives to providing support for all children in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:22 AM
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Exactly, it doesn't make sense. Governments aren't going force vasectomies, because governments need people of every age to contribute as they can to function. If governments want children, shouldn't government pay for them? Why not implement a child social security program that functions opposite to the current social security program? Children, recipients, get money from the government that they can then pay back by being productive members of society. Governments are incentivized to provide t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:18 AM
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I totally disagree. I think the current policies we have are creating cycles of inequality that are almost impossible for poor people to escape from. By all metrics, we are spending more and more per capita on income security programs, while inequality is increasing. Poor children are already being abused and turning to crime. I think a more open discussion on what should be done would be better for society. I honestly don't think this affects "male loneliness". Unattractive men are still unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:13 AM
0

Okay, so we agree that "Government programs should help poor children" right? Why don't we set a standard of care for what that support looks like and then provide it? Women shouldn't be forced to stay in marriages anymore than men or women should be forced to pay child support for a child they didn't want. What's wrong with replacing child support with government assistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:58 AM
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Can I be honest? Isn't this really bad faith? For instance, if a women accidentally got pregnant, would you tell her that she should have got a hysterectomy? Please address the issue at hand. There are children born without the necessary financial support in society to succeed even with two good well-intentioned parents. What do we do about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:45 AM
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I'm high top 1% earner. I pay taxes that support much of society. I am not even close to the person that is trying to "escape responsibility". I am grateful of my success and I am more than happy expressing my gratitude by paying 100k+ a year in taxes. I'm here to discuss an institutional problem that is occurring that hurts well intentioned people within our society, that disproportionately affects poor children the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:39 AM
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Listen, I am arguing in good faith. Can you please answer the following? Additionally, anyone arguing related to "Children have the legal right to receive financial support from both of their parents because it is in the children's best interests" please 1) define financial support and 2) answer whether you think couples that can't afford kids should be allowed to have them. The reason I ask about 1) is because unequal default financial support of children is the leading cause of inequality in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:34 AM
0

A part of the interest in marriage is sex. He is asking to get to know her sexually. If she declines, he is no longer interested in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:12 PM
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Yes, my god, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:46 PM

women who liked me would try to get me jealous, they would say randomly to me well he is rich Sounds like they aren't purposefully clear about their needs to make you feel insecure. They should be upfront about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:58 PM

I think it does apply. As I've outlined above, I've noticed a lot of bad actors in PPD will introduce noise and try to revert to normalcy, instead of trying address the issue of noise. I think it's important to ask about every post Does this comment or post add clarity or add Chaos/Noise?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:54 PM

The whole second part is about navigating dating, based on the dead grandparents story
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:46 PM

Lol, I stretched as far as someone that commented in this post. It's not that hard to find a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:05 PM

There is a RPW here would kill herself if she dated an "uggo". Don't glorify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:21 PM

You deserve love. Men are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:05 PM

No, women can do whatever they want. But when the average woman hates average men, maybe we should talk about the misandry problem in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:04 PM

Women can do better. They need to learn how not to hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:01 PM

Average men deserve love! If you hate men, just say so!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:45 PM

"if I have seen further than others, it's because I have stood on the shoulders of giants" No one is self made. We rely on each other. Trust me. Work with good people and your results will multiply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:43 PM

I totally disagree. There is dignity in being an average man. It's important to recognize that. Not everyone can be the 1%, but you shouldn't have to deserve love. We need normalizing average men being average. Men are great, they deserve love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:39 PM

No. A rising tide lifts all boats. You might not be able to help others, but don't stop me from doing it. You'll get it one day and then you can help other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:36 PM

It's probably internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:32 PM

lol. Listen, you sound like you have a lot of internalized misandry. Men are great. They deserve love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:31 PM

I'm successful. It can start with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:27 PM

Is sex compatibility not a standard for you? Dude it's okay to have needs and ask for them in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:23 PM

The average man deserves love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:22 PM

It is support and solidarity! We should never blame the average man. The average man deserves to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:20 PM

No, I get laid. I'm fine. For average men though, It is women's fault that they don't get laid. An average man deserves to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:19 PM

Men can't help other men get laid. It's like women complaining about never getting married to other women. It will never help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:17 PM

You are enabling the problem. How could other men help a man get laid? The problem is with women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:16 PM

Why do you hate men that have standards? Is it wrong to want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:15 PM

You are enabling the problem. How could other men help a man get laid? The problem is with women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:14 PM

How can talking with a man help a man get laid? The problem is obviously with women. Women are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:08 PM

I think women can become allies after they have selfish reason to become allies. For instance, Cassie Jaye: How Abandoning Feminism Changed my Relationship, talks about how having a son changed much of how she saw feminism. It wasn't enough for her to share in humanity. She had to have a son to be able to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:03 PM

Yup, the real reason is that women are trash. Even at their best, when women have everything, they are ungrateful and unpleasant. Women need to learn how not to hate men Edit: The average man deserves love. Men can provide support, but they can't make women better people. Men shouldn't have to rewrite their entire personality on a dime to grovel at the chance for sex. Average men are good people and deserve love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:59 PM
-1

You know sex is pretty normal right? What kind of femcel environment do you live in where men and women aren't genuinely having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:30 PM
3

Men aren't out there lying to get sex. Most men get married and have low body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:24 PM

Women like this do exist. Some women here only have established that they ain't above lying (not just being ambiguous, but straight up lying) to get validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:10 PM

You do know there are men who stay away from being friendzoned? Or are only looking for marriage or LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:08 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t condemn men who are honest like that. The problem with girls in the bluepill mindset is that they want men to be marriage material and also himbos. Sexually successful, but only to them. They see themselves as main characters, other women as secondary characters, and men as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:05 PM
0

Why would women assume that they are going to get marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:59 PM
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I'm not just saying this, I've never met this man or even heard about him. And I'm not saying men aren't deceitful or capable of deception or pulling shit on women that's manipulative and wrong in other ways. I've just legit never met a man who was being ambiguous about seeing a woman as a marriage target. And I've never seen any playing multiple women with no intention to marry any of them. This just feels made up...or does it like only happen in Miami or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:58 PM
1

We are talking about subjective vs objective morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:08 PM
2

Yeah, exactly its like the no makeup makeup look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:15 AM
0

Cool, describe to me objective morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:02 AM
-1

I think if you are in a bad neighborhood, you should carry a gun. Morality is subjective to your environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:51 AM
5

Himbo phase
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:09 AM
2

Do you feel the same about the "friendzone"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:07 AM
1

Do you think average women and average men should date/marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:18 AM
3

They want you to invest right away, want them for sex, so that they can deny you. They like the attention. A coffee date is much too neutral for them to receive attention
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:43 PM

Is there any point debating when the culture will just shift over time? It seems like some people are trendsetters and others are followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:11 PM
2

No, rejection is referring to first 1) sex and then 2) marriage. Men here are saying they get rejected for sex but not for marriage. You misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:04 AM
1

I matched with a girl on Hinge. She put D&D in her bio. I think you are out of touch. Single women, misled by feminism, are realizing that being a normie is not all its cracked up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:49 PM
3

What is rejection in reference to when men usually say "women never get rejected"? and then these same women turn bitter when they get rejected from these “normies” when they get older.. What is rejected here referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:46 PM
2

This is where expectations of your career, education and earning potential really ratchet up. These guys are going to expect you have the right "taste" for their bracket and compatible ambitions and life plans. I don't know if expect is the right word. I like working. I have a need to contribute and do something really interesting for the world. That's my passion. I happen to also make a lot of money doing that. Whoever I marry, will by default have money and be able to afford things that signal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:21 PM
5

When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure All men are normal, but some men are more normal than others
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:48 PM
6

I am a 30 year old man making 300k a year and I feel qualified to comment on this as a man who has dated women both types of women. The Girl Boss I liked the girl boss, because as a high achieving person, we were aligned on things like setting goals, working towards them, and celebrating success. However, she would randomly be competitive or combative with me. Of all the women I know, she was the most likely person to paint all men as misogynistic. She would occasionally attribute career failure…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:34 PM

Average men, like ryan gosling, have an easier time dating. Edit: I'm being sarcastic, although I think the woman in the video is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:47 PM
4

You dismissed all of MRA. You should know their most basic points. Yeah, true. Let’s just not talk and save the most time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:14 PM
1

Do you know what the child support argument is from men’s right people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:03 PM
0

It’s called a steelman argument. I think you might be out of your depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:57 PM
3

Why not set the deadline before inception? If women want financial support from men, why don’t they talk about their respective commitment level before starting the pregnancy process?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:49 PM
1

Do you think there has never been a men’s rights movement in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:43 PM
1

If you can’t give the best version of an argument from the other side, you are acting in bad faith. Even now I can give the best version of the feminist argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:39 PM
1

How would you fix men’s issues? I get the impression that most people in life don’t have great answers to these types of questions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:08 PM
-2

Yes queen. Why empathize when you can minimize, both sides, and normalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:30 PM
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Thanks Osama
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:14 PM
3

I’ve been friends with a girl for 10 years or so. I think she thought she had me on the back burner since I hit on her the first time I met her. Im a nice guy. I did want friends and decided to settle for friendship over a relationship. Overtime, I also lost interest in her. Im kinda killing it in life and she is not. She keeps comparing me to the men she dates now and tells me that they don’t make as much as me, are as strong as me, etc. it’s a pretty huge ego boost. I would say female friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:58 PM
0

What are we taught January? To rape or something, I assume? My favorite math teacher was a woman. She was an absolute badass cancer survivor. She was like the teacher in the movie October Sky
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:45 PM
1

There it is folks. AF/BB fully defined
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:53 PM
1

I’m happy for you. I like that you are very liberal when it comes to associations between people. Are you similarly liberal with child support and alimony? You don’t really need the government to enforce those contracts right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:24 PM
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🤣 When money and resources don’t matter, when things are truly equal, you see people’s inner desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:55 PM

Sure, then you would be for splitting taxes by gender I assume? Let women pay for women and men for men? remember that there are ton of single unemployed elderly women that did not paid less into SS than they are currently withdrawing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:33 AM

You sound nice, but you are the worst kind of evil, because you are misinformed and will mislead others. On average, women collect significantly more in income security programs by taxing all of society. When you take from everyone and give to women, thats... taxing men only. Women that are leeching off society are bad and women that enable leeches are equally culpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:37 AM

Hey if it’s so important and requires more than one person, why not have two adults discuss their commitment level before deciding to have a child? Hey who knows? Maybe they aren’t fleeing the child, but the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:21 AM

Don’t worry I’m chill af. I see through you entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:01 AM

Sex doesn’t immediately result in a child. Its why abortion is so important. I’m just not sure why you think financial abortion isnt equally important. Also single mothers are allowed to choose that lifestyle if they want. You don’t have to grandstand it’s really not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:59 AM

So many people here are being critical of OPs love language, that I truly wonder whether woman are capable of empathy. Have these women never interacted with men? Step outside ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:07 AM
1

Having a job and understanding whether they are contributing to society or leeching off of it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:04 AM

Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:37 PM

Wow, that’s rude
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:59 PM

Wow, “both sides” and “virtue signaling”? You must be a debate professional. Really interesting that you have nothing substantive to say. Isn’t it possible that through a biased view of life your eyes glaze over normalized Misandry? How would you know? Do you have any facts or figures? Do you know how taxes are allocated to men and women? Do you know anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:48 PM

Nah do whatever you want. I’m a man and I’m saying this. MaW is definitely 100% not true. I think of half of men and women are dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:19 PM

Yup you nailed it. No one should forced to pay for someone’s personal decision. Sharp you are just wrong on this. Child support and welfare are elements of the patriarchy when women had no agency. They have all the agency in the world now. It’s time they took responsibility. Men and women should form birth contracts just like labor agreements existed between two men in the 50s. It’s really stupid to treat women like they aren’t capable of setting this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:16 PM

Men can’t be deadbeat, when they can’t opt in to child support. Why can women abort for financial reasons, but men can’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:11 PM

How about not kicking men out of a 50/50 sub with your rhetoric? Men feel free to speak. Don’t let these women stop you. Edit: Wow, I just realized, I've already had this conversation with you. You have been trying to kick men out of shared spaces already! Controlling societies behavior around you isn't autonomy, its literally the opposite. It's using your victim status to change the structure of society to cater to your desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:08 PM

No such thing as an absentee father when child support is default. Men’s support of children should be opt in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:07 PM

You are right and the women here are trying to convince you otherwise. Why isn’t financial responsibility opt in for men? It’s absolutely a fair and based question. The notion that society would explode because we would then have to iron out contracts between one another is stupid. People naturally want to work together. Forcing men to pay is like forcing women to stay married to abusive wives in the 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:06 PM

No one should be forced pay. Child support should be opt in, just like birth, and men shouldn’t be taxed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:01 PM

Do you think single motherhood is good/bad for society? What policies changes have affected single motherhood rates since 1950 to now? Who is paying for those policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:59 PM

So true! “When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:56 PM

lol, this entire post is delusional. Men can never opt out of being a father, but a woman can. It’s like saying you didn’t pass a test you never signed up for! If women can abort, men should be able to financially abort. It’s the only fair way. Also the entire burden of welfare and income security programs throughout the United States is paid by men through taxes. So all men are doubly responsible. Men pay welfare and child support. True equality would involve abortion rights for the woman and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:53 PM
1

It’s the same to me. Friendzone/fuckzone is high school/college level when $ matters less. As they age, it turns into beta bux/forever girlfriend. Why are you so concerned that it’s not the same situation? Are you starting to think about the male friends you have kept on the back burner? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:14 PM
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Oh sorry, the parallel here is that women should stop being friends with those types of guys in the same way guys should stop stringing along women. All your arguments are the same as the arguments for someone in a Friendzone. The LTR boyfriend probably just doesn’t find her attractive for a marriage. And since Friendzone is okay, fuckzone is as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:56 PM
1

Embarrassing the number of women falling for this post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:51 PM

Oh, I have the opposite take. I think movies now are more real. Have you watched the Devil Wears Prada? There are a bunch of people that think Nate is the villain not Miranda Priestly. How can you have a romcom when men are the villains. Pretty clear from Barbie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:48 PM
1

Why do women Friendzone guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:44 PM

I’m seeing a lot less romcoms as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:32 PM
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More White People than Black People being perceived as "wonderful" and more Black People than White People being perceived as "strong" or "powerful" isn't random. It makes logical sense. Edit: To the Mod that responded with "Do not provide contentless rhetoric.", I totally agree this is rhetoric, but it definitely isn't contentless. Privilege is invisible to those who have it and it is extremely difficult to see if you don't view it through a different lens. I think instead of saying "Do not pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:13 AM
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You sound very sure, why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:09 AM
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I won’t treat them like a prize, if they don’t treat me like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:40 PM
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Yeah, that’s why I asked the questIon. Respect for me is genuinely multilayered. There is a really funny Allen Iverson clip when a reporter asked him why he missed practice. https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzI?si=IQxqlOGcFbQyUxrt He just continually expresses the difference between game and practice and as an adult choosing to skip a practice. I remember thinking, this reporter keeps asking him about skipping practice, but which one of them is the actual nba player? Does the reporter think his care is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:55 PM
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Honestly, that might have been projection on my part. Usually the guys I respect are incredible and I do think they will date/marry someone extraordinary. My closest friends are like that, which is why I phrased the question that way. The respect I have for my friends is multilayered. It factors not just inequities and privileges, but also what sacrifices they are willing to make as men to fulfill the role that they have chosen to carve out within society. A large portion of the foundation of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:29 AM
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Isn’t this question perpetuating toxic masculinity? Wouldn’t tearing down the patriarchy also mean tearing down traditional responsibilities/expectations of men? For instance, if I asked, would you abandon your responsibilities as a woman to ___? Doesn’t really matter what goes in __, because feminism and female in group bias has normalized women ability to do whatever they want. Why ask the question at all? Women are moral and men aren’t, end of discussion. Edit: 40% of children born in the us …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:05 PM
1

Awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:03 PM
1

Why do you think he lacks empathy? Because he thinks differently than you? Doesn’t that really speak to your lack of empathy? Because you aren’t able to consider that he might be genuine? You didn’t really even bring up your own experience to discuss the issue. You just said this guy was not empathetic because you disagree with him. Why are you arguing like that? Is it fun for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:51 PM
3

Why not just date people with the same body count as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:45 PM
-1

With this phrasing, the one that gets paid sounds less delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:26 AM
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sure, definitely. #PickMeNotGirls
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:21 PM
-1

Because it doesn't matter if they get sexual pleasure or not. Women will normalize being a hoe as long as they want male validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:59 PM
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lol, do you think women hoe around for sexual pleasure? They do it for male validation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:37 PM
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It's hard to relate, because maternity is basically guaranteed. Maybe if your child was switched out at birth, or if you did IVF and there was a mixup and the egg that you were given wasn't yours. It does definitely feel viscerally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:23 PM
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lol. why are you womansplaining how paternity feels. Polyamory is not just for a few weirdos. It's biological. Having multiple families is not that hard when you have enough money. I didn't really understand feminism/leftism, but I kinda get it now. If women are okay with sharing me, then why try to stop them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:19 PM
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no, definitely not. Paternity matters to men. It's too late though. Being an alpha definitely works and being a hoe definitely works. Since we killed the nuclear family, I doubt we will have this paternity fraud type issue in the future. I imagine most men will just be polygamist with many wives, where they give preferential treatment to the wives that treat them better. Society was like that in the past, I can totally see it settle like that again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:09 PM
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When a man says, "I don't want to raise a kid that isn't mine", they have the same feeling a woman has about being raped and being forced to carry a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:58 PM
3

I'd feel betrayed by my mom. I'd feel guilty being a part of a lie. I'd feel distrust towards authority. I'd feel confused about my place in society. I'd feel unwanted or unnecessary. I'd feel these independent of whether I have a father in my life or not. When the cheating happens, the damage is already done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:46 PM
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I’d feel betrayed by mom. I’d blame her for being a hoe and trying to take advantage of a random guy to raise me. I would think that my life would probably be a lot better if my mom was able to marry someone loyal or aborting me when she realized that my real father wasn’t going to stick around. I’d think my mom has taken every selfish decision in her life to have her cake and eat it to. I’d think that virtue is a lie and I wouldn’t trust anyone ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:19 PM

Someone should do an interview with this girl later. The side by side hypocrisy would be golden
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:07 PM

I don’t believe you lol. I’m sure if you met someone like him at a different time in your life you would have different thoughts. Or at least I know one of my friends who would say something like that did fuck around with guys just like hasan in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:03 PM

It’s funny that he is the most left feminist guy I know, and he has the highest body count I know, 300+. But I’m sure he doesn’t objectify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:39 PM

“Wow, I feel like you really understand me”. -them Yeah you a ho -me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:24 PM

Hasan is not going to have trouble getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:53 PM

Lmao, I went to Europe and the guys at the gym were small and weak. The guys at any club in LA, NY, or SF are significantly better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:41 PM

In my experience, it’s 1 in 200 for a girl to approach you. You have to be in the top .5%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:20 PM

Yup, women can not love. If women act romantically it’s because they feel insecure and want male validation. That’s why the guy is the one with the boombox outside the girls window.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:19 PM

The pro move is to throw in psych terms like, “you might be autistic if you can’t see that, this is why I go for NT men”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:14 PM
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lol, it doesn’t matter what I think. Women don’t care, they just want to convert that 1 in a 1000 alpha guy into a beta and if it works, repeat the process with some other guy. That’s all women do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:08 PM

“Ew, go for the guys that aren’t confident enough to immediately ask for sex? I bet they are misogynistic on the inside. Men that are openly misogynistic are safer than men that hide their preferences. Plus, they probably are conservative and just want a bangmaid.” -a woman somewhere, probably sharp or saba
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:58 PM
1

“All men are fuckbois. Why wouldn’t I date older fuckbois that can treat me instead of going to chipotle?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:55 PM
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What about women that have destigmatized having a hoe phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:44 PM

I had figured it was 1 in 200 men within the age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:18 PM

I can’t wait for women to change the narrative. “Of course we go after the top 1%. Wasn’t that obvious? Growing up everyone went after the person they found most attractive. You must live in a hole not to be able to see that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:14 PM
1

What do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:34 PM
1

Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:19 PM
4

Hasan Piker has used a brothel
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:47 PM
2

Hasan Piker had used a brothel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:44 PM
3

Jesus, its like clockwork. There isn't even a thought, just a gut reaction, "omg, a woman is in danger" Do you think men and women are allowed to have preferences? Do you believe in no fault divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:22 AM
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because its Just and Responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:12 AM

*silence* They literally cant remember because in-group bias is that strong. It's literally wiping their minds ability to understand the words that are in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:28 AM
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Its 55% vs 16%. The way you are phrasing it is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:06 AM
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4.5 times stronger. I've had HR training videos about unconscious bias, but they never even mention this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:31 AM
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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. I am saying the act of sex is biologically linked to the concept of commitment and exclusivity. What are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:32 PM
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You think because you feel something, acting on it should be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:24 PM
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That is based on the idea that as a society, men and women have no social or financial obligation to each other right? How do you feel about child support or alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:47 PM
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I think those men are scum too. Just because men do it, doesn't mean its okay. In my group of friends, I don't tolerate that behavior. To be clear, my criticism isn't of interracial couples, but about men and women lying about commitment to others or to themselves. The women I know are genuinely heartbroken. I think they knew these men would never commit to them, but they still wanted to have fun and take no responsibility. They knew the men were lying to them, but they wanted to believe the lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:44 PM

It's rough buddy. I don't know what to do either. I wish there was a way to quickly identify and exclude women who wanted to commit to guys that would never commit to them. I'm not trying to exploit insecure women and I'm not interested in women that let themselves be exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:27 PM
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You are so confident, but so wrong. Child support and alimony don't count as income. Women double dip. They get money from men and then use their "low income" to get additional benefits from the government. Single mothers with children do this the most. None of the income the father provides is taxed and then they can get preferential treatment whenever they declare their artificially "low income". Research finds as a group only men pay taxes. On average, women literally get free money and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:20 PM
1

EITC and other income security programs too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:20 PM
-1

Sure date around, but within the group of men that might commit to you. These women were basically dating strippers. These men weren’t ever going to commit to them and if I said anything about it they would have called me a loser. But I was right! They all broke up and these women now think all men are trash, after basically just dating strippers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:13 PM
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^ the type of woman op is talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:43 PM
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Every woman that thinks this way isn’t going to comment. Every woman that doesn’t think this way will defend all woman. Women don’t realize that men have seen this happen. I have seen my female friends fuck every other race and put down their own until they turned 30 and wanted to settle down with a beta from their own culture. Instead of getting angry at OP you should be getting angry at the women that are doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:38 PM
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Female in group bias. Women are unfair to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:17 PM
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