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qronick/r/MensRights24/12/12 03:27 PM
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Outrageqronick/r/MensRights20/01/15 11:59 PM
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Fathers/Custodyqronick/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:29 PM
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Newsqronick/r/MensRights30/09/14 08:12 PM
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Fathers/Custodyqronick/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:37 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:20 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:55 PM
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Discriminationqronick/r/MensRights21/05/15 02:18 AM
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qronick/r/MensRights25/09/12 08:54 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights17/01/13 03:26 AM
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qronick/r/MensRights17/06/12 05:15 PM
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qronick/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 09:29 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights24/05/12 08:05 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:09 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:41 PM
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Raising Awarenessqronick/r/MensRights19/01/15 02:17 AM
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qronick/r/MensRights24/12/12 01:58 PM
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Blue Pill Exampleqronick/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 05:05 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights27/05/12 10:12 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights10/02/13 09:33 PM
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Generalqronick/r/MensRights10/09/15 06:16 PM
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Social Issuesqronick/r/MensRights26/08/15 11:18 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights02/01/13 04:31 PM
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Red Pill Theoryqronick/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 02:26 PM
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qronick/r/MensRights16/04/13 04:34 PM
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On the flip side, in my anecdotal experience, men who have daughters are more, um, feminist in their perspective.
/r/MensRights12/04/18 05:13 PM
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And not only once. Probably many times and possibly, even 20 years later, he still does.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 07:29 PM
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Thank you, /u/SMACN, good answers all, and they do help me understand my own son a little better. In our case, my son is still in his 20's and figuring out life in many ways. You're a long way ahead of him (you're nearly as old as I am!). If you feel like it, some summary of how your relationship with your father has evolved since you reconnected would be interesting to read. (Edit: I'm asking partly out of not wanting to screw up what I am building with my son, so any warnings would be welcome …
/r/MensRights05/01/18 07:03 PM
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SMACN, I am sorry you went through what you did, and I think you deserve great things for overcoming it and re-establishing your relationship with your father. My relationship with my son was similarly targeted although his mother was less successful than yours. There were 5 years where I did not see him in the flesh at all, although we did communicate via Skype. He speaks of various behavioral rules he has for himself around her and also has learned to control some of her worst excesses. So que…
/r/MensRights04/01/18 09:46 PM
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Resources are scarce, yes, that just makes them expensive. Supply and demand. Keep the demand high and the supply low and you make a packet.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 05:48 PM
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I suspect it would not take much imagination to realize that at least some of Anna Freud's fame was derived from her parentage, which would have added credibility to her work given that it was done while his star was still bright. I refuse to back down from including such context, especially as it provides an object lesson in the decline of a once near-religiously observed psychological theory.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 05:46 PM
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Create conflict -> jobs for the lawyers, judges, guardians ad litem, psychologists, social workers, plus some courts get paid for how much child support they can extract from the non-custodial parent.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 05:23 PM
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Forgive me, but a short lecture on the history of the concept of custodial vs. non-custodial parenthood. It all derives from developmental research on children orphaned by the second world war. The research was, in part, carried out by Anna Freud; yes, that Anna Freud, daughter of the coked-up, sex-obsessed Sigmund. For reference, find the book "The Least Detrimental Alternative", of which Freud is a posthumous author (which tells you how the actual authors were inclined out to seek authority fo…
/r/MensRights19/09/17 03:10 PM
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I think you got the wrong posting, this is the Telegraph, supposedly a cut above the Mail. It's also the paper "of record" for the ruling Tory party.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 11:05 PM
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No less than four flattering pictures of the cute, skinny, blonde, smart, female defendant. Hmm.
/r/MensRights16/05/17 09:52 PM
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I'm surprised none of y'all are catching on to this: "...today owns her own mining company with 70 employees. Three of her employees are women, but they work as cooks not as miners. [...] "but they're not going down in to the mines, it's not easy to get women to do what I did."" The false rape claim is not news, at least not in that environment, from men trying to shift blame. The observation that a woman who did work as a miner can't get other women to do it is far more significant to the moder…
/r/MensRights15/05/17 05:49 PM
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Um, guys, if you do the quiz thing, but answer "no" to everything, you get a lot of points (mental health, fathers' rights, etc) in favor of men's rights activism. I tried the experiment on my second pass (you can do it as many times as you like). It's a strange way of doing things, but the article does not have the agenda many here perceive.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 08:21 PM
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I watched both videos. What struck me was that the gay men wore gloves to do their investigating, the lesbians did not. Hmm.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 02:04 PM
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Damnation Alley?! Wow. I am both astonished and impressed to see that included in your list. Don't get me wrong, I loved it when I was young and impressionable, but I'd be amazed if it has stood the test of time. But I digress...
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 10:26 PM
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I got similar answers from friends about my ex wife when she made false allegations of domestic violence against me: "if she's lying, she needs help". Yeah, that's what she needs, help, and I'm doing just fine having my life torn apart.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 04:45 PM
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Misleading title. The article reports on young men who have been asked why they think they are looked down on as the worst of society, not what it feels like to be seen that way. The answers are carefully selected so as not to challenge the perception. A better question would be: why are these young men not offended?
/r/MensRights16/12/15 04:43 PM
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My personal experience (i.e. far from objective) is that of all the bad behavior I have seen in my life (I am in my 50s) the large majority has been promulgated by women. Of course, I cannot say this in public because it would get me labelled as a misogynist.
/r/MensRights01/11/15 03:35 PM
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I was intrigued about the comment of the woman who "would have panic attacks about what was being said in the film". That's classic self-victimization and the primary weapon used by many women to gain control of and derail any conversation they don't like. Having a "panic attack" immediately draws attention to yourself and away from the topic in hand. It adds to my increasingly firm belief that what people fear about men's rights is the discovery that women have much more power than we as a soci…
/r/MensRights01/11/15 03:31 PM
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I maintain that a lot of male on female DV goes unreported because the men simply don't know that's what it is. Sure, if you showed them a movie that contained a scene of a man hitting his wife, they'd have no problem, afterwards, asked in a neutral manner, agreeing that domestic violence had taken place. On the other hand, if you showed them a similar movie with a woman hitting her husband I guarantee that far fewer would do so, possibly even after you reminded them of the particular scene in q…
/r/MensRights26/10/15 10:15 PM
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I greatly enjoy these occasional posts from older men. I first learned about "the red pill" before it was even called that, in my forties. That was one change of perspective. Now in my early fifties, there is another which sort of "doubles down" on some of those ideas. "That's enough crap sweetheart, I no longer think with my little head quite so much and your advantage derived from that has weakened considerably. Get used to it, as I have, and compensate yourself or hop it."
/r/TheRedPill03/10/15 03:49 PM
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Off the top of my head: the pump-and-dump ethos. I do not like the idea of treating women as an aid to masturbation, and those that seem to want that (or are drawn to it) do not interest me. TRP as a study which attempts an objective treatment of gender relations as a means to getting what you want is fine (it's what everyone else is doing), but I see it also as a social contract. Life is give and take and those who just take are to be avoided.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 04:49 PM
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I'm in my 50s, and this subreddit is one of my regulars. I too went through a long and painful divorce which reset a number of switches and TRP reminds me to maintain a certain mindset which does not come naturally. I do not subscribe to all the ideas here, by any means - I find many of them outright juvenile - but the overall picture is closer to the truth than most of the mind-numbing pap served up by our current society.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 12:26 PM
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This is a tragic and important piece. The world needs to know the consequences of destroying a man's life through such injustice.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 04:52 PM
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Oh, that. A movie based on a book by his ex wife about a time when men and women lived under different social pressures and all this judged by modern populist standards, right?
/r/MensRights30/08/15 08:56 PM
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Steven Hawking? I missed that one between his apparent fears of invading aliens and marauding AIs and his wormholing through black holes.
/r/MensRights30/08/15 04:50 PM
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Why? The article is father-friendly.
/r/MensRights27/08/15 01:26 AM
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There was an article in the London Times yesterday (behind a paywall, sorry) by a woman (aka prostitute) who uses the SugarDaddies website to connect up with clients (men who will pay her for her "company"). She had "Two rules: no sex, no married men and [she] broke them both". She's doing this to pay off her student loans, just like the stripper in the titty bar. The thing that got me though was: "If the personal information on the site I use were hacked, as the adultery website Ashley Madison …
/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:58 PM
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The comments. Read the comments. Not a single commenter buys this crap. People are getting wise.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:45 PM
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Edit: I haven't thought about this in a while. My ex would be due about a year in jail by now...
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:33 PM
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While the kids are with the father, sure. Personally I think that should be the first line of defense in contact interference: an hour spent in jail for every hour of interference. Much of this crap would stop overnight.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:31 PM
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Oh, there will be consequences.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 06:16 PM
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Judging by the commentary on the sites that allow them, this girl is going to have a hard time from here on out. Be ready with your schadenfreude folks.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 06:15 PM
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'Puts me in mind of other times when a majority class at a public institution could get members of minority classes ejected for whatever specious reasons happened to get their ire up. Their daughters will pay the piper.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 03:01 AM
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Well, let's see: 1) The expectation of being in control. Bad because patriarchy, male entitlement, "who do you think you are". It seems that being in control, whether of yourself or your surroundings, has become a vice. Like all thinks, taken into excess, yes it does become a vice. But to be out of control seems likely to be worse. In my direct, personal experience a man being "out of control" is a favorite accusation of a woman who seeks to control him. Ipso facto, you can't win: you're either …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 06:08 PM
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I agree, an excellent article. The only point I take real issue with is the following: "We understand, as a gender, that we’re no longer permitted the expectation of being in control, of leading, of fighting, of coping with it all in dignified silence, of pursuing our goals with such single-mindedness we have no time for friends or family. These have become aspirations to be ashamed of, and for good reason." The reasons, if and when given, are rarely good.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 04:10 PM
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This guy is my hero of the day. I may go out and whistle a few wolves in his honor.
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:26 PM
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I know, right?
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:26 PM
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Staff comments. See my explanation above.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 09:30 AM
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My problem is that I feel betrayed by this newspaper. This particular issue hits close to home for reasons I won't go into, but in recent years the guardian just winds me up with its fatuous position on so many issues. I'd rather read the Telegraph, at least there the bias is unapologetically laid out and not dressed up in facile morality.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 02:07 AM
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No, it doesn't. At the bottom you will find the comments and a "staff replies" tab. There is only one. That's it. It's got 107 upvotes. Uh, wait a minute, if I go through a US proxy that tab doesn't show up. Strange. Well, the commenter is here: https://id.theguardian.com/profile/megsymoo/public and that link works through the US.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 01:33 AM
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Ah, I didn't think to do that. I'll know better next time. Thanks.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 12:18 AM
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I grew up with this toe-rag coming in the door every day, now I see them for what they are, a bunch of loathsome, bigoted, ignorant, reactionary wankers who should each have something vitally important to them taken away by a morally corrupt legal system, such as a child, and then be publicly blamed for it.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 12:03 AM
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I picked the "raising awareness" flair as this is an excellent example of the man-bad myth and shows that it has been around for a long time. By the way, it'd be nice if there were a "father's rights" flair.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 02:19 AM
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I can see that, but how the woman feels when she wears them (as opposed to what she actually looks like to a man) is only half the story. There is also the message given to the man that (usually) neither of them are aware of. I propose that vulnerability has much more to do with it than many imagine. She thinks/feels "I am an attractive woman who can carry these high heels with pride and thus I signal my SMV/availability to these men around me". But really, she looks more vulnerable than usual, …
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 02:59 PM
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While the cynic in me agrees with you, I wonder if articles like this mean that things might be getting a little better, simply because we are hearing about it. Years ago, would anyone have cared that a man lost a kid born while he was in jail? At least now we hear and can be properly outraged. Moreover, the article is neutral and doesn't try to pretty up the mother's behavior. As for the adoptive parents' "hell", well this is what you get for stealing a man's child.
/r/MensRights25/11/14 07:10 PM
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I have just been reading W. Somerset Maugham's short story "The Pool" and was struck by its interplay of blue and red pill themes. There follow spoilers, but WSM is always worth reading even if you already know the story. Set in Samoa in the unspecified colonial past, it relates the tale of a Scotsman, Lawson, and his relationship with his "half-caste" native wife. Lawson is bluepill, for sure, but he is educated, and on moving to Samoa a bit of a fish out of water. Ethel attracts his attention …
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 09:30 PM
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I think it would be better, in general, to draw attention to the relationship rather than the two people involved. If a parent and child have a good relationship, then who is anyone, especially the other parent, to break it? It is easy to assassinate the father's personality, harder to directly attack his relationship with his child. Both parties are victims, both will be damaged, the system uniformly fails to note this being based on pathologically bad psychology and law.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:22 AM
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Feminists have informed insight? Unlikely.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 01:17 AM
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A while back I used to subscribe to Skeptical Enquirer. I got pretty bored with the never varying tone for all that I agreed with the general thrust, but I let the subscription lapse when they sent me flyers for a cruise with Richard Dawkins as one of the headlining guests. There were a number of other names given too, among them several whose "profession" was stated as "feminist". A professional feminist? Interesting, the company he keeps...
/r/MensRights30/07/14 12:58 AM
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Interesting that this article has three pictures, all men, and the male/female disparity is mentioned in the tl;dr at the top. Everywhere else I have looked (BBC, NPR, CBC) barely mention any greater susceptibility among men, if at all, and all the photos are of women looking miserable.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 06:47 PM
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Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. Move fast. (FWIW Japan recently acceded to the convention, but they have not done anything to prove themselves that I am aware of).
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:12 PM
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"Stealth" men's rights? I might concede that they are a branch of men's rights, but they're not stealthy about it. I suppose you could draw a parallel with being pro choice as being aligned with feminism - that is, a woman could be pro-choice, but also insist she's not a feminist, it'd be strange, but she could.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 01:14 AM
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To be fair, an r/dogsrights might be more interesting to the public at large than fathers' rights anyway, but that's what you're saying. This is also one thing that I am alluding to - I am a father whose rights were trampled on to the degree that I wondered if I was sane for some considerable time, which was, of course, pretty much the unspoken intent. I know that I will die not understanding the invisibility of the truth of the modern father, I am resigned to that.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:01 PM
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I see very few posts here that I would call relevant to fathers' rights. Mostly /r/mensrights tends to be about rape and stupid feminists.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:55 PM
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Lolita.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 08:07 PM
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Personally, I have noted a possible tendency for perpetrator mothers to survive these incidents whereas the perpetrator fathers do not. I don't have numbers, and I can't prove it, but the incidents I see in the news seem to go that way.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 06:01 AM
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Read the comments, especially the uprated ones, but not the editor's picks, it'll make you feel better. The BBC sucks ass.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:06 PM
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And you're the one who throws up into his own asshole.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:42 PM
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So, no opinions allowed until we know ALL the facts? That sounds both boring and impossible.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:41 PM
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Is that a rule on this subreddit? I can only post articles I agree with? Oh dear. I seem to have taken a wrong turn somewhere.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:39 PM
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That's quite a mental image. Seriously? You really did that? Ew.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:37 PM
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Nope, I'm genuinely curious.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:32 PM
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You don't watch much stand-up comedy do you?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:32 PM
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I am not stereotyping anyone. The Telegraph, on the other hand, might be. Feminists find fuel for their delusions with or without this subreddit. And any comparison of genders is a men's rights issue. Sheesh.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:24 PM
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You could do either. Shrug.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 05:24 PM
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Perhaps because, despite the self-righteous attitude of some of the outspoken people around here, quite a lot of readers (lurkers?) think it has something to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 05:23 PM
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No, it's the opposite of what you would like to do, which is just another form of the kind of political correctness that oppression of any variety thrives upon. See my reply to Moxiecontin. If it were a woman that had gone through what he went through, and still did what was necessary, I would have no hesitation calling her a real woman. I imply no macho nor weak-woman crap by any of this. The misuse of the phrase "real man" that you have a problem with is a hijacking, by the people I hope you a…
/r/MensRights16/04/13 08:26 PM
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Oh who cares what any given ideology thinks is a "real" anything? This is a man I can respect completely - he has suffered horribly with the loss of two sons, survived an attempted suicide and come back from all of that to be there when others really needed him. Did you see him in the photo walking alongside the guy in the wheelchair? Do you see what he's holding in his hand? It's an artery, still attached to the injured man. If a man can go through all that and still hold it together to do what…
/r/MensRights16/04/13 08:16 PM
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Whut?
/r/MensRights16/04/13 08:12 PM
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Yeah, it's Mother Jones. Nah, it's nothing to do with men's rights. No, I don't care, this reddit will benefit from reading the article.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 04:36 PM
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Ah, but that's why they have to have these things because the resentment of people like you is so palpable that you intimidate women just by curbing your speech. The thought police are a step ahead of you, citizen.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:09 PM
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If that's the case, then the flyer should say so.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:08 PM
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All of these "female-friendly" things perpetuate the damaging idea that men are female-unfriendly.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:07 PM
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If the lesbian, black, disabled whale is reported on for what she actually achieves will the emperor turn out to be wearing no clothes?
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:59 PM
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Unfortunate? Criminal, more like.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 01:23 PM
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What are the odds he got a fair trial?
/r/MensRights31/01/13 01:22 PM
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Darn, you just beat me to it. While my false accuser did not stalk me, there was too much in this that was similar for comfort, but I don't always read for comfort.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 12:45 AM
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Downvotes are not real...
/r/MensRights23/01/13 02:32 PM
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To anyone who knows anything about the history of German National Socialism, the irony is palpable.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 02:24 PM
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But it has come to mean that by invoking the Nazis, whether by accusation or reference, the person so doing is actually undermining their argument, which is a shame because there is a lot to learn from that episode of history.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 02:22 PM
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The thing to notice about this article is that it was written by that anonymous prostitute blogger who ended up portrayed by Billy Piper in a TV series.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 02:47 PM
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It openly argues for the ascendency of the custodial parent's wishes over that of the non-custodial if not the complete removal of the latter from the child's life. These arguments are based on Anna Freud's experiences with World War orphans which are, you know, just like the children of modern divorce.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:58 PM
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What is a man who impregnates a woman and who gets nailed for CS by an unfightable court but denied access by a vindictive mother and gives up in the face of that?
/r/MensRights24/12/12 10:52 PM
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Agreed. The trouble is that there is no shortage of people happy to point out the layabout and attempt to force him to step up via ridicule and abuse and a real shortage of people prepared to support those fathers who are trying to step up in the face of brutal resistance. Given the latter fathers, I find it hard to blame the former.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 10:42 PM
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"Demonization" is shorthand covering the ongoing propaganda war which men and fathers are quite definitely losing right now. The first law of warfare is that one must demonize one's enemy. But no-one said that the propaganda war is all that is going on and the sole cause of our problems. There is also a legal war in which men and fathers are rendered powerless to demonstrate the falsity of the the propaganda. This will be my ninth consecutive Christmas without my son. I fought in the legal arena…
/r/MensRights24/12/12 09:47 PM
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I was more disturbed by a) the mother filming the daughter humiliating her younger brother and b) publicizing it on the Internet. I predict a childhood full of teaching that boy his place from the two women in his life. "Up in arms"? Who would that be? Does posting this mean I'm "up in arms"? Gosh, r/MensRights must be more powerful than I thought. A 4 year old telling a 2 year old to "toughen up" makes me wonder what else she's been told because I very much doubt that she understood what she wa…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:12 PM
1

But that's about tobacco farming in Malawi. This is about sugar farming in Central American.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 05:33 PM
6

I don't normally read the Guardian, and I wouldn't post from it either, except for the fact that they did actually acknowledge that men are the victims here, even if they did play it down. Where did you post this before?
/r/MensRights14/10/12 12:31 PM
11

not yet.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 08:06 PM
0

Or, depending on the environment, is more expendable.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 11:11 PM
0

Only if you would accept that women have traditionally enjoyed social and economic privileges over men. This is getting boring. Troll or don't, put up or shut up.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 11:09 PM
2

Yes, but who walks in front?
/r/MensRights03/10/12 07:54 PM
2

Denial a very powerful psychological force.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 07:53 PM
2

But do you deny that men have ever enjoyed privileges over women? To deny that would be foolish indeed. It would be equally foolish to deny that women have ever enjoyed privileges over men. Or that some men have had privileges over other men, or women over other women, or any one woman over any other one woman, in some way shape or form. So what? Shrug.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 07:52 PM
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All I saw was the line: "These are symbols of the privileges women enjoy under patriarchy" the list showed up later. But I'm still uncertain. Thing is, since taking my red pill, I have concluded that the patriarchy is about as real as the feminist commitment to actual equality. Thus, since you appear to be talking about something that I believe has never existed your commentary is ambiguous.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:41 PM
1

I can no longer tell if comments like this are intended ironically or literally. Thus I cannot decide if I should upvote or downvote.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:32 PM
1

There is an enormous difference between entitlement to special treatment and the voluntary exercise of special treatment. I would say "walk on the outside if you want to, but be aware that you are continuing the weak-woman stereotype and this may impact you in other ways you won't like". Consider the derided practice in certain countries (e.g. France, until quite recently) where women were expected to walk a pace or two behind the men. Yer average modern wimmin would find this distasteful, but s…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:28 PM
12

I assume you said "welcome to the 21st century", then left.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:26 PM
8

I was taught to do lots of things like that, by good traditional parents who are as horrified as I am at the disgraceful treatment their sons get these days by women who have been taught they deserve anything they want just for the asking and if they don't get it, it's some man's fault.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 03:45 PM
2

Is there a Wiki anywhere where articles & information like this are collected?
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:55 PM
2

Article here, in case you're interested.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 08:55 PM
1

Wikipedia is not an authoritative definition of anything. The Patriarchy is a mythical description of a society which is set up by men to benefit men, regardless of its effect on women. It does not exist. It never has. Keep taking the blue pills.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 08:39 PM
1

Sample size: 127. Not huge, although the statistics in the original paper are apparently pretty thorough. Nevertheless, that does not seem nearly enough to make the claim "The bias had no relation to the professors’ age, sex, teaching field or tenure status." All the materials are available at the link (not provided by the NYT) although I confess I have neither the time nor the inclination to read it through. The conclusions, of course, rest on the presumption that a woman with the identical app…
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:33 AM
1

Asshole here. I have no problem with your foreign bride. My post was more directed at those, typically Americans, who think that foreigners and particularly Asians make better wives than their own nationality. Such men are reacting to a perceived unpleasantness in women of their own nationality and seem unaware that screwed up women may be found anywhere. Shrug.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:09 AM
1

Well, while I'm raining on your parade, might I recommend you investigate you spouse's nation's attitude towards fathers in the event of a divorce? I'm happy you're happy, but forewarned is forearmed.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:07 AM
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So happy for you, so sorry you spent so much time apart and not knowing each other.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:40 AM
3

Canada is one of those countries which routinely rubber-stamps international move-aways by mothers. This version of legal abduction never makes news.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:16 AM
2

Why, specifically? I mean, it's a good rag, and all, but it's not exactly an MRA-oriented one.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 09:39 PM
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Nope, never watched more South Park, nor American Dad, than was necessary to determine they weren't for me. Shrug. But you still haven't answered the question - I'd like to see a counter-example, it would brighten my day, just a smidgen.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 09:35 PM
0

Yes, when the straight-man for their snark is necessarily a man. Do us a favor, all you nay-sayers out there, find us one counter-example where mom is the idiot, huh?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 08:39 PM
2

Well, that puts a whole different color on the world out there. I guess all the rank disrespect I see for men is really just an inverted compliment. I guess I'd better go back to the blue pills now.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 08:37 PM
5

Do they explain why?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:25 PM
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Not really, because how many people see that second interpretation?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:24 PM
3

No, you mean it is not explicit in the cartoon. It is implicit, for sure.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:23 PM
1

I do.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:22 PM
1

First sentence. Do you think it belongs here or not? Stop what? Posting such things here? Or drawing cartoons like this? The last sentence implies that you think such things don't belong here. Personally, I think it does belong here. Since I had the red pill forced down my throat, I see this kind of subtle crap all the time and I am consistently bemused at its apparent invisibility to so many.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 07:22 PM
3

Whut?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:42 PM
6

It's an extension of the "man as provider" meme. If feminism were what it claims to be, it would be fighting this double standard too. But it really comes down to the different natures of men and women. It is often asked, fairly pointlessly, "what do women want?". The easiest answer (and therefore least popular) is: more. Of everything. This means you must sacrifice in order to sate her desires. Or you could just not play the game.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 05:39 PM
1

"Man up"? Seriously? In /r/MensRights? Run along and play child, before you get hurt.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 04:42 PM
3

Hah! Have an upvote...
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:50 PM
5

He. Just wait 'til your ex pulls some female-victim shit, then you'll start behaving like a "whiny woman" too.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:48 PM
2

Subtitle: "Society's expectations of men are leading to high levels of depression, lack of self-worth and even suicide" Bullshit. Society's disdain for men, maybe, but that's not the same thing as "expectations".
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:24 PM
0

Yeah, sure, whatever, but at least I was actually there.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:19 PM
1

I am astonished to encounter people in /r/MensRights who believe in the patriarchy. But hey, at least I was actually there. I suspect that my "anecdotal experience" trumps your bald assertions and unstated evidence.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:07 PM
0

Wow, but we do enjoy jumping to conclusions, don't we? Uh, who said it was my first thought on hearing about a rape? The issue is complicated in many ways. I would seek to defend a victim of any kind of assault, even if I did think they had done something to provoke it. I can judge anything I want, I was merely commenting on the relationship between the woman's attitude towards her boyfriend and her stated sexual preferences, drawing a conclusion about the boyfriend's likely response to being tr…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:13 PM
6

Patriarchy evidently existed in full form in North America (and the 'western world') just a couple decades ago. Women were a second class citizen. This is not debatable. It is fully evident. This is not true. I was there "just a couple [of] decades ago", there was no "patriarchy", women had all the rights of men (and then some), it is as debatable as fuck, what is evident is your dogma.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:24 PM
6

Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:11 PM
1

A petition to a company to stop doing something does not constitute censorship. They can ignore it or heed it as they choose.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:10 PM
0

You are misinformed, there is no "official" English language. More words get added every year to the Oxford English Dictionary, reflecting actual usage, and it topped a million words recently. Some nations' usage changes faster than others. UK English is typically faster changing than the US (consider that the American accent is closer to the English accent of colonial times than it the current English accent). By contrast, there is an official Spanish language, and it has many fewer words. The …
/r/MensRights23/09/12 07:07 PM
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Recognizing that there are contributing factors which a victim can anticipate and therefore minimize does not place the blame for the crime on that victim. Or perhaps if a cop warns me that leaving my front door wide open is asking for a robbery then I should start a worldwide campaign to complain about how he is blaming a robbery on the victim? And it all became my business the moment it was discussed in public. Logic much?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 06:58 PM
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Good luck with that.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 02:16 AM
26

It is, it just isn't as popular.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 01:59 AM
2

Well, the courts are in the business of making it happen. The sole custody model is just the thin end of the wedge and they apply it all the time. They call the consolation prize "visitation" for crissakes. My concern is that all this academic argument does nothing to further the recognition of a malignant pattern of behavior (on the part of the alienating parent!) and provides fuel to the fire of the people who think parental alienation is a mother's right. In court, it just makes for a lot of …
/r/MensRights23/09/12 01:46 AM
2

My sign? "Slippery when wet." What do I like to do at weekends? Squash hamsters with my army boots. Inappropriate? Dunno, but if I were asked those questions I'd start to deliberately screw up the interview. You didn't want that job.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 01:06 AM
1

"peculiar establishment"? 'Sounds like a brothel to me...
/r/MensRights23/09/12 01:00 AM
4

It was always embarrassing.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:57 AM
4

Well, it's a stupid question, so I suppose it got a stupid answer.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:55 AM
12

How is a petition coercion? What I find interesting after a little exploring is that Universal Studios withdrew the original T-shirts in response to Glenn Sack's campaign against them, recognizing that they "contain offensive messages" and yet the same company is now developing a movie by the same name? I say "Universal Studios is hypocritical, throw petitions at them if you can't get hold of any rocks".
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:53 AM
2

"As a young 'un I was always taught..." from someone that young means I just can't take it seriously. Sorry. A better question might have been: "Are there circumstances under which a man can justify hitting a woman?" Shrug.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:41 AM
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Awareness? Awareness that dressing like a slut incites the wrong kind of man to rape, but unwillingness to accept any responsibility for it? Awareness that all these "sluts" are in the business of ridiculing one miserable Canadian cop for giving some obvious advice? Awareness that to the vast majority of people who think about this see it for exactly what it is - vapid exhibitionism? I doubt it. Also, that Kitty Stryker describes herself as "a queer dominatrix-slash-hooker with a psychology degr…
/r/MensRights23/09/12 12:26 AM
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But what about all the tarts, slags and floozies? Not forgetting the trollops, slatterns, hussies, strumpets, slappers and scrubbers. I suppose "slut" covers them all. Edit: too many slags.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 11:32 PM
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Note that the real source of the trouble are the social workers advising the mother to obstruct access on the basis of their say so. Well, that and the courts being their usual slow, expensive, vindictive, damaging, moronic, prejudiced, evil selves.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 05:54 PM
1

I posted on this a couple of months ago. I'm sad that he gave up, but understand perfectly. The Hague Convention is all there is to prevent illegal international child abduction, and in theory it is all that is needed. In practice, when a child is abducted to a parent's home country, xenophobia exerts enormous pressure and justice is extremely difficult to achieve. I hope that one day this man finds peace and his children realize the truth of what he tried to do.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 02:00 PM
1

The definition is also about keeping the bona fide crime clear for all and not open to abuse (by claiming false victimhood) itself. The definition cited offers opportunities for simple harassment to be elevated (?) to the status of rape - all the easier to destroy a man who simply did something crass that had no significant damage for anyone. It also makes false claims of rape easier: no evidence at all is required by this definition. All the easier to, well, destroy a man for nothing at all. A …
/r/MensRights28/05/12 07:08 PM
1

Remember goosing?
/r/MensRights28/05/12 01:21 AM
1

(Un)intended consequences: true victims become suspect, fakers use your outrage to their advantage.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 10:14 PM
1

Some people are born because condoms rip. Do you think they should write a letter to whoever was performing quality control at the time and thank them for failing to do their job properly? Um, I think you miss my point. How would you feel if the condom company had been forced to pay for your upbringing? Since they weren't, I guess you can't answer my question from experience either. As it happens, my brother was an accident, but that is only relevant in that no third party was asked to pay for h…
/r/MensRights25/05/12 01:33 PM
4

"Abusive", the all-purpose word for women who're mad at men.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 08:06 PM
1

Actually, it's sort of astonishing that there's even one.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 02:35 PM
5

'ever notice that in these painfully common stories, the father is always described as "optimistic"? Sometimes I think that's like claiming Mohammed Ali is eager to reclaim his world title.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 02:31 PM
5

Upvote from me - I hear you bro. (I think you meant "latter" not "former" in the last paragraph.)
/r/MensRights24/05/12 02:16 PM
2

I didn't say they were the same, just not wildly different. For example, here I sit with a bunch of downvotes for speaking my mind looking at someone who has a bunch of upvotes for telling me my views don't match theirs. The feeling is not wildly different from what I would feel if you'd told me I was not being masculine. I have received disapproval for not fitting in, it really doesn't matter if what the standards of judgement are. I suppose I should just man up and get over it.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 12:04 AM
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I know you didn't mean it that way, but this isn't wildly different from "man up".
/r/MensRights22/05/12 01:47 PM
2

I saw this and confess it made me uncomfortable for all the same reasons that the usual version does. I do not feel it is right to go around crowing about how awful your ex is and how you are going to destroy their parenthood, no matter how deserving they might be. It is always a tragedy. I do, however, wish that it was easier to expose those occasions when manipulation and prejudice win the day rather than clear evidence of parental inadequacy.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 06:24 PM
2

Is there no room for separate roles within a relationship any more? Marriage used to be about partnership and mutual reliance was a good thing, even losing in yourself in the relationship was an approved goal. Then came "co-dependence" which was supposed to be bad. Take that to an extreme and we have an ideal of mutual independence within the relationship, which doesn't sound like a relationship at all. I grew up with the first, was taught about the second and then had the third shoved down my t…
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:23 PM
1

Anybody'd think they don't have any real problems to worry about in Peru. 'Been there recently?
/r/MensRights17/05/12 08:05 PM
13

Nah. The reason MRAs are seen as misogynistic assholes (by feminists) is because they disagree with feminists.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 07:57 PM
18

My own experience of the failure of my marriage was peppered with rationalizations and explanations so twisted they gave me headaches. I was hit "out of the blue" and yes, there were signs, and I had seen them, but I tried to ignore them in the hope they would go away (there really was not anything else I could do). When the bomb was actually dropped it was done in such away as to suggest the intent was to destroy me as thoroughly as possible. False accusations, rumor-mongering, blackmail, extor…
/r/MensRights17/05/12 07:52 PM
6

Have a little hand-held sign with "double standard" written on it. Every time you spot one, hold it up.
/r/MensRights15/05/12 03:30 PM
1

Sorry 'bout that. Fixed now.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 04:08 PM
2

Me too, but it hasn't shown up. 'Probably spoils Ebert's warm fuzzies.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 03:31 PM
6

Hi Anthony, There is no why, it is a simple fact, and 'twas ever thus. But you have identified one of our society's long term hypocrisies. In its modern incarnation it is perhaps because it is inconvenient for the departing woman to have to recognize that she leaves behind any detritus in her wake as she ploughs indomitably through life. There must be no negative consequences for the modern woman's activities and especially no responsibility. If you think this is a pathology, you would be entire…
/r/MensRights12/05/12 05:17 PM
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