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Don't know what you mean by this but yeah, how you feel is your responsibility alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:22 AM
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Made us participating in normie shit? I used to go to guitar lessons and painting classes. My youngest sister did karate and beauty classes (which included makeup, nails, and hair). As for my oldest brother, I don't recall him doing anything other than English courses (we all three studied english when we were teenagers), and he's the most normie of us all (married and planning on having kids). There are a lot of other factors involved. Having good parents is a good start, but it's definitely mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:24 PM
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Generally speaking, women have terrible flirting skills aswell but men are more desperate/horny than women so they dont approach. But they are TERRIFIED of being rejected. There was a viral video of a woman destroying a guy's car because she was rejected. There was also another video of a girl constantly grabbing a guy's pants in a bar because she was rejected aswell. Women are just as bad as men at being rejected, they just don't have to go through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:03 PM
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Yeah they're definitely responsible but that is a simplistic solution. I can say as a man who had a great childhood with great parents, and who is succesful financially and personally, and while introverted does fine with friends, but still have no luck at dating, there are much more factors involved that just parents. But yes, they help a lot and I think it's a good first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:54 PM
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Most men don't do this. And you shouldn't. How other people feel is not your responsability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:51 PM
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I believe is more than just parents: society, schools, social programs, other men, women, etc... but I see your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:46 PM
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It would be interesting, but being honest we probably know the answer: They're not affected as much as men. Anecdotical, but I have 4 nieces whose age range from 12-16 and they all already have boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:25 PM
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I really think part of the problem with men's social skills nowadays is that they don't have platonic relationships with other men, specifically attractive men. A lot of women like to have casual sex, with the most attractieve men, and you learn that if you befriend those men. It's crazy the lengths a lot of women are willing to go for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:48 AM
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Really dislike this ideology. To all the regular guys out there who have no luck at dating and read these types of things: it doesn't mean you're a weirdo, women aren't the ultimate moral compass, don't let this ideology consume you, because you'll get unhappy and will make you doubt yourself even when you maybe don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:29 AM
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Yeah, most of the 40 yo men dating 20 yo girls tend to have a lot of power, money or fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:50 PM
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Yeah like I said, some people are numbed to attractiveness, you need to live some time in a place where people are really unattractive to kinda understand what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:15 PM
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Dating for fun (traveling a lot, live our sex lifes, spend every weekend having fun) A. Dating to get married (everything from A plus things like planning things together, buy house, invest, etc...) B.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:12 PM
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I go to LA a few times a year to visit my family, they live in the coast area, go and take a walk in Redondo Beach and every women is stuning. But also, I've found out growing up sorrounded by attractive people kinda numb you to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:11 PM
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I go to LA a few times a year to visit my family. I would be FUCKED If I lived there. It's insane how hot people is, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:08 PM
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Good riddance. Dating apps and social networks are probably the most socially damaging thing in the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:07 PM
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Oh yes, that's why I said in my original comment Oh agree, men should be informed of the pregnancy and decide if they want to pay child support before the baby is born
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:04 AM
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Agree! a woman should completely and absolutely have the right to abort or not. Physical and mental well-being of a existing human being, regardles of genre or sex is above everything else, I'm not even discussing that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:00 AM
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Oh agree, ignoring your misgoynistc ideas, plenty of men choose not to have unprotected sex with women, and generally support contraceptive methods aswell as abortion. If a women doesn't feel capable of raising a kid, plenty of men will back her up on not raisinig the kid. Shame woman don't share the feeling. And again yeah, agree, if you know that you’re emotionally, financially, and mentally unfit to be a parent then don't have sex, regardles of genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:57 AM
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Oh yes, I always reach this final argument when talking about this. I 100% agree with you, if a woman is willing to have raw sex with a man who isn't her husband, she should accept the fact that she would probably raise the kid by herself aswell. If you don't want to be a parent, don't have sex. Completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:48 AM
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Woman should be able to abort if she won't be able to raise the kid by herself. I'm 100% pro-choice😊 Again, all these should happen before the kid is born. At that point man's/women's mental, emotional and physicial integrity is more important
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:45 AM
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So, the kid is more important than the parent even before it's born? mmmmh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:39 AM
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Being forced to parent while you're emotionally, financially, and mentally unavailable is a punishment, not only for you but for the kid too. Again, thats why women should have the right to abort without question. It's simple logic if you leave aside the genre and mysandric ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:35 AM
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Of course, that's why single women who can't raise the kid by themselves should have to right to abort at no cost. I'm 100% pro-choice. And if we're talking about married couples, then I'm all for "the partner with the highest income should pay a reasonable amount for child support" regardless of genre. See how it makes sense if you stop thinking based on mysandry? "Men are pigs, if we don't punish them by law they will keep fuckin and fuckin a bunch of women" It's not a healthy point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:41 AM
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Nobody, women should absolutely have the right to have a free abortion/give up for adoption if she can't raise the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:39 AM
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Once the baby actually exists Oh agree, men should be informed of the pregnancy and decide if they want to pay child support before the baby is born. If you weren't informed during the pregnancy well that's your fault man, stop fuckin around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:34 AM
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That's the same "Abortions shouldn't be legal because women will get more abortions" level of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:31 AM
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Like when you go outside and see who's actually with these attractive women; most of these men are not ''chads'' Where the f do you people live? Attractive people date attractive people, average people date average people and ugly people date ugly people. There are exceptions, 1 in 100,000 maybe, but they're not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:28 AM
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Oh sweetie, I hope I could live in your world where people don't blame "poor quality men" for the current dating state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:26 AM
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I mean in "the real world".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:20 AM
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Come on man. Average men get into relationships all the time. Just not with super attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:11 AM
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Attraction is often far more complex than some checklist a manosphere article put together, its more often than not a number of factors combining with each other with the two people that draw them to each other Only thing I'd argue is that women are also to blame in this, with things like "he should make over 100k, he should be over 6ft tall, etc..." Modern dating is fucked up for men and women a like, we just like to blame men alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:13 PM
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And plenty of mid girls dating good looking guys. Nobody says they don't exist, but they are hardly the average. Average people tend to date average people, attractive people tend to date attractive people, ugly people tend to date ugly people. It's only different when there's some kind of power imbalance (money, power, age, status)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:08 PM
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And that's usually why men cheat: A lot of women find "pre-approved" men more attractive. Just like a lot of men think of women as "prizes" a lot of women think of relationship as "prizes".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:28 AM
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As usual it depends on the city. These types of observations are pretty pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:26 AM
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It's a really difficult topic because at the end of the day is about worker rights/ethical capitalism more than it is about sex itself. It would be like claiming all big corporations are inherently evil because Nike uses child labor. Or all jobs are evil because I used to work 48 hours a week in a soul-sucking job. I sell my body (brain, eyes, back and hands) to a corporation to make my living, what makes you think I enjoy it? At the end of the day we should listen to the sex workers and what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:17 AM
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You're right, men have rights, they just can be easily takenaway by the system. But yes, again I won't mind paying higher taxes to support single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:11 AM
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Sometimes I forget this place has mostly americans in it. Yes, I don't care to pay for high taxes it that would help kids and would save men from this situations where they basically have no rights and just obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:56 PM
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It's hyperbolic, really. But at the same time, it's hard to argue against; a lot of women here may have some kind of trauma stemming from past negative experiences with men. The other day I got a reply from a women who said women are at "risk of being abused/killed everytime that they go out on a date". Which I can see the logic behind, but that's a emotional response that comes from her past experiences, if you're constantly worrying about that, there's some unresolved issue that you have to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:57 PM
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Yeah, but I do well financially, and my sister knows I do fine; otherwise, she would have never asked me to take on that responsibility. She's also my parent's baby girl, so we had to party big lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:15 PM
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Toxic behaviour is way more accepted in women generally than it is on men. I've seen women who complain about her men being annoying about how they dress and how sexist they are, also forcing their boyfriends to "end your friendship with that whore friend if yours". I've seen women complaining about how controlling their boyfriend is because they don't let them have male friends, while they force the boyfriend to stop following certain female accounts on instagram. etc. I'm a man in my 30s and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:05 AM
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It's more than that. It's basically women believing they're some kind of ultimate judge of personality that is so silly. Remember, women are most often murdered by their husbands. Just like men, women suck at choosing their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:57 AM
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I'm not American; I should have started there. In my country, when you're going to get married, you can ask people to be your 'godfathers' or 'godmothers.' These are people who are important to you or your partner, and they take charge of something for your wedding. This responsibility can range from something small, like taking care of the ring before it's given away at the altar, to something larger, like paying for all the drinks at the party. It's mostly symbolic, and depending on your budge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:50 AM
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I mean traditionally men cheated way more, back when a man was able to maintain 2+ households on one salary lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:11 PM
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lol no idea. My friend is completely opposite, his girlfriends are always the most attractive, smart and funny women. I remember being kinda angry when I first knew about his dating life thinking "If women like that paid attention to me, I would never cheat on them" and that's when he dropped another piece of widsom and told me with that mentality I would be the one cheated on when I finally got into a relationship. A few years later I was cheated on lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:09 PM
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Maybe they were hot? lol. A lot of men also suck at choosing partners, it's not just a women's thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:00 PM
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He probably wasn't good looking or, just had bad social skills, they do count, they aren't as important as women say they are, but if you don't know how to act at minimum normal person behaviour expect people's rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:51 PM
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I mean, I have known him for 14 years, so I've heard a lot of wisdom from him, I remember him saying I should date overweight/unattractive women even if I don't find them attractive to gain experience, also if you treat your girlfriend nice she'll cheat on you because women don't like to be treated nice. He's basically the type of man who claim women like aggresive/douchebag guys, which to be fair I've never seen him really single in 14 years, so he's most likely right about it. To be fair, exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:42 PM
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Yeah, most women absolutely hate it but the best dating advice comes from my womanizer friend who's never been really single in 14 years I know him, he's getting married next year and still has side chicks. He's been the godfather in the wedding of several of our friends simply because he gives good advice, that women would probably hate if they listen to it, but it actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:22 PM
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I have no idea what the sprinkle sprinkle movement is but I don't doubt that it's a harmful ideology that will only make dating and relationships harder for future generations. That's how every single modern dating trend has been born (as a response for another dumb ideology of the opposite sex), and that's why dating is exponentially more and more difficult for younger generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:17 PM
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Most people, regardles of their sex, race or gender, suck at choosing partners. However it's not socially accepted to admit a good chunk of women suck at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:19 PM
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Sounds like she wasn't your close friend. The friend I had in that job never said I was the best man she knew lol, she told me I was kinda boring and ugly lmao. Still was fun to hang around with her, I appreciated the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:16 PM
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I can vouch for the "being around them day in and day out". Used to work for 48 hours/week with the same women, it's what made me close friend with two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:06 PM
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Thing is unless women stop doing it aswell, it won't be as helpful as it can potentally be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:01 PM
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Doesn't helpm them to fuck, helps them being okay with life, because they stop putting women in pedestals. One way that people (even women themselves) put women on a pedestal is claiming they "are attracted to decent men who treats them right", which is a lie, most women suck at choosing partners, just like a lot of men will fall for a girl with huge boobs and pretty face, a lot of women fall for asshole men. Remember: men with dark traits fair better with women, plenty of studies have been done…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:54 PM
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Yep, and they're honest so prepare for things like you're unattractive, you're short, she's way out of your league, you have terrible social skills,etc... Definitely a learning experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:39 PM
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No, you got that wrong. What men need to do is get a female friend. And I mean a real female friend, not a female acquaintance. You start to hear honest opinions when they're your close friend, it shifts your way of thinking about women and makes you realize they are as superficial/bad, if not more, at picking partners like men are. Source: Worked in a female-dominated industry before shifting to software.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:16 PM
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But if the other person isn't mature enough either he can potentially be an asshole/manipulator/cheater, which based on every woman who has "dated an asshole", seems most women suck at choosing partners (we men are terrible aswell) and have gone trough that. Do you think the power imbalance is the biggest issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:12 PM
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Seems like a fair answer. Honest question, do you think a person who is younger than 25 shouldn't have sex/relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:32 PM
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It may be a cultural thing, but is the opposite where I live (Mexico), most well paid jobs are engineering, engineer jobs are in big cities, most engineers are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:30 PM
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I mean you agree with me... It's almost as if I was right? It's not that hard to understand that men have higher libido than women in average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:26 PM
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Yeah, I believe you, like I said a lot of people here have poor relationships with the wrong type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:22 PM
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Don't remember where, it was either a comment here or in instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:21 PM
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Listen, I don't know who we got here, but yeah I agree with you, and that was my original point in my first comment: most women will never like casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:34 AM
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No, when all your life you're being alone, you realize what you missed by watching other people relationships. It's one of those things most women don't understand since is easy for a woman to get into a relationship, to be truly alone for a long period of time doesn't track for most women. Women understand what is like to be in poor relationships since plenty women suck at choosing a partner (just like plenty men do too) and they tend to end up with poor quailty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:27 AM
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No, even if women could get orgasms 100% of the times, most won't take part into it, specially becasue the % of women who find casual sex disgusting is higher than the % of men. And no, the 30-40% is with casual sex. Blame the studies you can find in Google, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:23 AM
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No, vetting on compatibility is fine. Assuming that a person is not compatible with me because that person never played with legos when she was a kid, and in my experience that's the normal thing, ergo means she's neurodivergent. It's a silly comparision. I can do it if I want, that doesn't mean other people will find it stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:20 AM
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I'm sure that number of women who would like to take part it's still way lower than the number of men who would like to take part. Also women in average have an orgasm around 30-40% of the times they had sex, if you think you have higher chance of getting murdered than to have an orgasm.... I don't know what to tell you, I know plenty of people who browse here have personal issues so I'm not surprised, but that comparison is pretty dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:34 PM
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Yep I understand where you're coming from, that's why I don't think that mentality is healthy that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:30 PM
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Most women don't have the same libido as men. Most women aren't interested on having tons of casual sex. The sexual revolution original goal was to make sex more enyojable to women, doesn't mean it would push them to be promiscous, because most women don't want that. Is this difference on libido the fuel of the eternal discussion of why so many women sleep only with the top men. Either women get rid of ther standards and sleep with every men, or men increase their standards x10,000. Neither thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:25 PM
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As a personal preference I don't think there's anything wrong with that. The only issue is you automatically apply the just-world falacy "if a person is a virgin is because there's something wrong with him/her". I don't want to argue or anything I know I won't change your mind, more like I hope other people who may think like you improve their mentality by reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:20 PM
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"If the average women suddenly turned into a man, he would be an in.cel". Can't get enough of how truth that phrase is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:04 PM
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I know most women here have poor relationships with the wrong type of men, but as a men with plenty platonic male relationships with introverted nerdy guys, they don't bluff, really want to start families and are not interested on sleeping around. And to be fair, some of them do eventually find one women who would want to date them after an extremely long list of rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:01 PM
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Plenty guys want to get marry and have family. They tend to be ignored by women, or in the best case scenarios, they find 1 women who would want to date them after a long list of rejections, which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:57 PM
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Fair warning, specially if you're unattractive, not chasing nor looking activelly who to date has a high chance of you ending up alone. Unlike the "you'll be more attractive if you focus on yourself" just world falacy plenty people believe, you can potentially end up alone. source: 33 year old perpetually single man. I have two houses and saving for a car right now tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:14 PM
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Of course being a man or a women is a default. I don't understand what are you trying to get with this. My point is men's issues aren't as discused largely for whatever reason makes you feel confortable but they are, which is damaging to the % of men who fall into interesctionality: poor men, unattractive men, minority men, men with mental health issues, men who aren't cis, men with disabilities etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:38 PM
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Yes, if you manage to get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:36 PM
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Yes, nice women tend to have no issues getting into relationships/having sex with less then ideal men, because of how poor they choose their partners. Nice men don't even get to put their foot in front on the door of a relationship. I see your point, but even a this level a nice men has it 10 times worse tha a nice women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:46 AM
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Yes, that's another issue that's being studied largely by society. Focused on women mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:35 AM
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In order to discuss this further, I'd first need a source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:28 AM
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Some are good, some are bad. Most suck at choosing partners, just like we men. They're not some kind of powerful holy angel that are attracted to virtous men, ya'll mostly attracted to the wrong traits in men, just like most men are attracted to the wrong traits in women. We're more similar than different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:26 AM
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Oh yes, those are real issues. All of those things you said are problems which are socially accepted by society as problems we have to solve. Goverment and society are doing their best to solve them, the average person helps by voting, I sure as hell do it. That's my point. While men's issues get shot down And f u for thinking I'm at the top of the pyramid when I was porn in poverty and both of my parents had to work their ass off to give us a decent life to me and my sisters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:23 AM
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Probably some do, but not as many as women here think, and not as few as men think. As a gym rat who's meet a fair share of red pill bros who have absolutely no issues getting laid, being "red pill" is irrelevant to a fair share of women as long as they feel that "click" with a man (i.e. finding him attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:58 PM
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Regulated? Women would lose a lot of sexual power. Not sure about that. Most countries where prostitution is legal are also strongly feminist. If anything I think normalizing sex work would actually improve women sexual power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:57 PM
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Do you think is the same for women? it is easier than ever to get to be sucessful as a women than any other time in history. Do you think women will understand men's issues with the help of therapy and other tools?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:48 PM
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Oh for sure isn't a gendered thing. But society pays more attention to women's than men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:46 PM
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Because for the majority of men, traditionally feminine women are more attractive, the same way traditionally masculine men are attractive to a wider range of women. Are there outliers? For sure, you sound like one of them. But for the average person, those traits are more attractive. You sound content, minus the misandry that you carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:44 PM
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circle..jerk? No idea what you're talking about. But I deleted it just to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:39 PM
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I got some bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:38 PM
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Because you're probably physically attractive. That's the single most important fact in sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:17 PM
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I'd argue women are more psychologically aggresive too. But regardless it's been talked before and people always comments the same a zero-sum game argument ("Men are more dangerous, so men's suffering from violence from women is irrelevant")
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:15 PM
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This again? Women pursue/initialize all the time. If that's an alien concept for you... I have some bad news about your attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:11 PM
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Again, that's irrelevant. Most people, women and men, suck at judging character. I understand you also have a "I am wonderful" bias to yourself. The truth is you can do everything right and still end up with a terrible person. I think your original point is alright but simply doesn't translate to ending up with good partner or attracting more women, specially if you're not good-looking, that's a 'just-world' falacy. But it can be great for your mental health, so I approve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:07 PM
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That's irrelevant. The fact that those women exist and that they are the majority (ask your females friend/acquiantances if they ever dated a douchebag, the majority will answer yes) really means they aren't as "selfless" as they claim to be. It's such a weird way to put women on a pedestal, and they are okey with men putting them on that pedestal. If those tips are focused on your personal development, that's fine, there's more to life than women. But they're not something that will guarantee y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:45 AM
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Yes we know, women are god-like and pure creatures that are attracted to decent and kind men, unlike men who are pigs and are only attracted to big asses and don't care about having an emotional conection. Just ignore every women who has had a "dating a douchbbag story"! teehee, they're being silly!.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:39 AM
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No, the "behavior that most people recognize" isn't the majority. Most people are biased by negative experiences with the opposite sex. Most men aren't womenizers, most women aren't whores. Most people suck at judging their partners character, men and women. A pretty face will override a lot of the thinking for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:27 AM
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No, stop thinking in hyperboles. There's more to a person's character than how smart she/he is. How you perceive people based on how smart they are it's really sad, but ain't my problem either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:26 AM
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Becuase physical attractiveness it's one of the most important factors in relationships, despite most women denying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:19 PM
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Never said we were identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:19 PM
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I mean, no, it isn't. Genetics vs. memetics has been a decades-long discussion, lol. Since it is difficult to separate the genetic and environmental influences of a trait like intelligence, it's hard to prove one is more influential. If you feel safer believing that, good for you, doesn't mean it's the best outcome. Having a happy partner who knows how to raise a kid and helps with their needs, will be more important to me. Yes, that also means a goldigger will be probably be terrible at raising…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:18 PM
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Yep. Personal preferences are valid regardles of your sex, gender, age, etc... If they're stupid, peple can laugh at them, but doesn't mean you have to change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:52 PM
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Nope. It's upsetting that most women here have such a hard time admiting and still have their women are wonderfull belief, that's all. Men and women are more alike that you like to pretend. No genre is the good one. Plenty of men are extremely selective when dating a woman, plenty of men aren't. Same thing with women. I'm merely answering the original question, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:45 PM
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Let me guess, you think idiocracy was a documental? lol. Genetics is one factor. Having a kid raised in a loving enviroment with a good partner where all of his needs are covered is also important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:44 PM
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No, as women usually do you're reflecting dating's women beliefs and experiences onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:31 PM
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Tiktoks shorts aren't really a reflection of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:30 PM
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Na, my money is in social skills being destroyed slowly, men being more affected in the short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:29 PM
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No, you see, but this time is true because women good, men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:28 PM
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Ahh, the good ol' hyperbole thinking that is so popular on the internet nowadays! That's why I sad that much lady. If she's a golddiger I'd stay away, and how could you know you'll have stupid kids? that's not how genetic works lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:26 PM
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Oh yes, women care about lifestyle aspects because they are smart, know how to choose wisely and plan ahead about the future of the relationships, while men only think "she better be hot!". There it is again!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:24 PM
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Yes. As usual, youre reflecting how women see men in dating. We don't care that much about intelligence, money or status in a woman. Unless she's has something like 80 IQ or less, doubt most men would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:11 AM
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Biggest example is one that even women themselves do: They don't care for physicial appereance, they are looking to have a serious relationship and they only care about what's inside, if you're a decent men, women will be attracted to you because they only look for nice men <3. Men are disgusting pigs who only care about ass and tits. As to why, I think is some sort of defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:07 AM
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You know most men aren't born like that, we know we shouldn't approach because we grew up being reminded constantly by women that we aren't attractive. Women have absolutely no idea the amount of rejection less-than-average men take and the mental toll it takes. So, some men just don't feel like living through that experience anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:00 AM
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That has nothing to do with being pretty lol. Source: I'm ugly and a lot of people think the same cause I have anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:00 AM
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Not held accountable, but I believe women accepting physical appereance is way more important than they lead to belive, would help with men's issues. Also accepting dating is relatively way harder for men than it is for women, would also be great. Overall, just women being honest about the privilege women have on sex and relationships would be a step on the right direction and I bet it would calm a lot of men's discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:57 AM
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Oh yeah, it's just the good old sexist idea of "men thrive in marriage and women don't" is so stupid, I just like to mention how much of a lie that is. Marriage is generally a good thing for everybody. Although how much of a good thing is, that's debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:26 PM
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Yeah you're right that's my opinion lol! but get this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7452000/ The difference between the average life expectancy of married and single men is ony 2.2 years and in women only 2.4. Whatever you think the reason is, at the end it's not as impactful as women think it is. And still women seem to be the ones who are benefitted by marriage more, by 0.2 years, ya'll should get married ASAP!. So yeah, feel free to ignore my opinion. It's not really an impactf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8NDCJY5DW4&ab_channel=TheOnion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:39 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7452000/ I just want to point out the difference between the average life expectancy of married and single men is 2.2 years and in women 2.4 lol. Whatever you think the reason is, at the end it's not as impactful as women think it is. And still women seem to be the ones who are benefitted by marriage more, by 0.2 years lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:32 PM
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The way women twist this is "Married men live longer because marriage gives them mental well-being" or something like that. I think reality is different, as a man with plenty of married friends, the main reason that married men live longer is simply because they have somebody who check their health constantly, sometimes, until the point it's manipulative and annoying ("Go to the doctor to check on that mole, or else"). I'm pretty sure if we also take into account things like doctor's appointment…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:26 PM
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Oh yeah plenty shitty men, usually the most attractive that have no issues at dating, are like that. I'm not saying we're any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:03 PM
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No it isn't true. But that kind of mentality isn't suprising in this subreddit. Mysigonistic or misandric ideas are common here mostlye steam from negative experiences with the oposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:02 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm against all type of sexist assumptions. This being one of those that is socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:59 PM
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In that specific issue? Because "small dick energy". Even women themselves shame men's bodies. Did you think only women are affected by beauty standards?.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:15 PM
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Oh yeah definitely. It's almost there are men who only want sex, but women as well. And there are men who want serious relationships, but women aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:14 PM
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Women are okey with thinking they're the holy genre and men are sexist pigs. Wasn't that clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:13 PM
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Because we can't and women don't accept that. And yeah some men do want only sex, never said those men don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:12 PM
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No, plenty of men are monogamous and aren't sleeping around and manipulating women to get laid. That's only the top men, most men, a lot of men who are invisible to most women are just looking for a serious relationship. I mean, it's not completey unfounded in the sense that there's a lot of people, men and women, who are looking only for casual sex. You're right about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:41 PM
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One of the bigges just-world falacies women believe as a result of sleeping/having relationships with the top most attractive men, are "men just want sex, women want conections". It's such a a sexist idea that puts women on pedestal, but they are okey with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:31 PM
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Not always for sure, most most of the times yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:29 PM
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The thing with Aba N Preach is that they definitely do a lot of critizing women's behaviour but they never generalize it, which is fine, they show you what to avoid in a woman instead of "all women are shitty".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:27 PM
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Physical attractiveness plays a HUGE role. Once that's ok, it can take only minutes for "personality traits" to kick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:25 PM
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Shoe0nHead, contrapoints and Aba N Preach. They are fairly neutral, shoe0nHead even got a lot of hate when she did the men's mental health video.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:48 PM
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Yeah it can grow but not born. A person has already have to find something attractive from you from the minute he/she meets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:31 PM
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The difference between an in.cel and a chad is that chad is physically attractive. Personality is nowheres as important as women say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:41 AM
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Yeah. Could you DM a pic of you? I'm really interested on how you look. I've actually had a few guys sending me pics of them before and they're all the same (attractive with self steem issues). Here's some evidence I'm not some creep lmao: https://i.ibb.co/MkjwRst/1.png
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:56 AM
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No, I believe anybody can find one person who will find him/her attractive if he looks hard enough. It's not impossible. I have several unattractive friends that are married, the thing is they dated probably 1-2 girls their entire life before settling down. But to constantly date several super attractive women, you absolutely need to be super attractive or rich. I'm sure you're more attractive than you think, just wanted to see if it was possible to see you, but I understand you not wanting to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:27 AM
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Oh, Schrödinger's shitty men: both simultanously having no sex and no success at dating because they are really shitty, while at the same time being shitty boyfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:28 PM
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Could you post a pic? Most 5 guys I meet tend to be pretty monogamous simply because women don't play attention to them and when they find one women who finds them attractive they last years together. Also those women are never super attractive. I've never meet a 5 (that isn't loaded) that dates super models, it would be interesting meeting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:24 PM
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I think is the opposite. Men are feed that "you can date whoever you want, doesn't matter how good looking she is" and as a result you have your michael cera look-a-likes trying to constantly date Alice eve-type women. They get resentful and some of them turn into your in.cel types men. Stop hitting women who are models if you're some paul dano looking mofo, focus in the women's personality, know your limits and search for things you may have in common with women, stop chasing models cause that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:57 AM
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Ya'll mofos really don't even have attractive male friends. Women show interest on men all the time. If that concept is alien to you, have some bad news about your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:35 AM
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From most common to least common: Dude's loaded, woman has serious mental issues, just plain old's stupid luck. The only time I've meet a extremely ugly guy with a super attractive woman (where the dude wasn't rich), was one time where the girl had some heavy personal issues, don't know the details but she was friends of a friend of mine and all she told me that there was some family issues with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:29 AM
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His trick is he's probably more attractive than he thinks but has some self steem issues. Pretty common in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:27 AM
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The biggest issue that I see in most issues talked here is that people believe in "just-world-fallacies" aswell as "women are wonderful/men are shit" falacies. Saying things like "you need to be mentally well/complete/happy to be in a relationship" is a defense mechanism a lot of women have to deter what they think are shitty men. In reality, shitty men have absolutely no issues finding women to date, specially if they are good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:55 PM
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Social networks are ABSOLUTELY to blame for A LOT of current issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:11 AM
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The biggest proof is when women say something like "It's your fault you can't get a women" but they don't realize it's the same the other way around. The fact most women are going to be single by 2050 is in BIG part women's fault, they just don't realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:08 AM
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Problem is I don't think nobody is happy single. That's usually one of the lies feminism and mens right movements keep spitting left and right. Meanwhile, suicide rates skyrocket, and mental health crumbles more and more with each new generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:03 AM
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Every movement has their extremes, remember "Kill all men"?. Hell, go to twitter right now and search for "#killallmen" Add that modern narrative is "you're a man, you have life so easy" when it's being proved over and over again (and ignored over and over again) than the average man usually have life way harder than the average woman. And voila, you have a generation of ignored men that are angry and tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:59 AM
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Relationships are about sharing your life. Being with a person (male or women) who plans these kind of stuff withouth thinking how it may affect his/her SO it probably means that person isn't ready for a relationship or simply she/he's a shitty person. And btw, I've seen it more common the other way around: Women waiting for (attractive) men who do these kind of stuff and cheat or fuck around with the lover. So just like men who do this are not ready to be in a relationship, I'd say is the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:25 PM
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As long as men keep having testosterone and being aggresive the answer will be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:18 PM
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LOL yeah I know you care about the looks, I don't doubt that for a second. I'm saying most women don't admit it. I know there's no point on keep arguing, so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:17 PM
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Debatable, the "fear that women have" of strange men its overriden all the time if the man is attractive in a lot of women, that's literally how dating apps work. Cold approaches worked for like 20-30 years back before fearmongering became so common with the Internet. Still works to this day, but only for the most attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:09 PM
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I've tried it alone, as a unattractive man, I've never had the attention from women, but you actually may meet other men who want to drink a couple of beers and talk about their issues with a stranger, which actually makes sense when you remember men suffer from loneliness more than women. Overall it was a positive experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:49 PM
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Yep but men are honest about it. We mostly don't go around claiming we "want a good personality" or some crap like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:47 PM
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In real life seldom women think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:45 PM
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Not fat (I'm not fat, I'll never be fat, physicial health is extremely important to me) Age preferibly +-10 years mi age. kind, isn't aggresive. Not promiscous, that's probably a huge plus for women. I'm scared of STDs, it's well stablished women with high body count have a lot of issues bonding with a partner/self steem issues, plus probably means she has terrible ability at judgin people. Not being extremely narcissistic, is fine if she likes to take care of herself but some women take that to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:58 PM
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Sigh for the nth time, yes, we men are exactly like women, except we're honest about it, we don't claim "we care about personality" or other silly lie, we're honest about what is really important in attraction. It's women hypocrisy what bothers men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:46 PM
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Sigh for the nth time, yes, we men are exactly like women, except we're honest about it, we don't claim "we care about personality" or other silly lie, we're honest about what is really important in attraction. It's women hypocrisy what bothers men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:38 PM
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I'm sure they are atttracted to you, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:37 PM
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Sigh for the nth time, yes, we men are exactly like women, except we're honest about it, we don't claim "we care about personality" or other silly lie, we're honest about what is really important in attraction. It's women hypocrisy what bothers men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:36 PM
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It really comes down to women will do ANYTHING when they are attracted to a man. Women have different rules for attractive/unattractive men. The phrase "Women will make rules for ugly guys and break rules for attractive ones" it's true, if you ever had attractive male friends you'll see evidence of this ALL the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:50 AM
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It would suck because then it would make more obvious when you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:34 AM
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I wonder what justification did the people who believe that had for things like porn, strip clubs and prostitution being billion dollars industries and having predominantly male consumers. "Men literally pay for having sex, watching sex, they will pay just to be near attractive women, all at considerably higher rates than women... yet women's sexual desire is bigger".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:28 AM
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No, I would never cheat on a relationship. Sidenote, she'll get cheated on. Do you think she's going to date a sub5 man with no options? Those women get cheated all the time because they choose the most attractive men, a LOT of those men will cheat simply because they know they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:22 AM
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I'd say It's pretty common around the world (I'm from Mexico and it happens here aswell). But it only happens to attractive men, as you can guess there's not a lot of those in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:18 AM
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Oh man, irrelevant but you remind me of pre-covid software development job market. I was getting at least 2-3 linked in messages. Those were the days. If the job market was like dating market, I went from Henry Cavill to michael cera 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:16 AM
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As you can see from the comments, women approach all the time, sorry that you had to learn about this the hard way, but you're not alone in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:15 AM
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Some do, but most importantly we're honest about it. If we like a girl we admit is because she's attractive, we don't pretend is "because she has great personality". If we don't like a girl we just say we don't find her attractive, not that "she needs to have more confidence" or something silly like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:13 AM
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Not arguing with that, plenty of women and men are shitty prospects for a partner. But I'm just saying women suck at judging character. You can be a good men and still be ignored by women, you can be a douchebag and have no issues dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:09 AM
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Women choose immature men who don't listen to them? Oh men is almost as if women suck at choosing partners and things like personality aren't as important as they make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:32 PM
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Yep. 100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:31 PM
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Gotcha.But women do have it exponentially easier. If you're still having issues, it's 100% because of you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:31 PM
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Right there with you - the amount of people who put women in pedestal is insane, even women themselves do it. The truth is most women suck at choosing partners, can be really superficial, manipulatives and overall shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:43 AM
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Why do women don't try being mature and talk about those issues with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:33 AM
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29.5% of lesbian abuse (by comparison, apparently about 35% of straight women have experienced partner abuse, with 98.7% of those being male, meaning exclusively male-on-female abuse is 34.5% of all heterosexual abuse.) So, women aren't more violent than men but women are almost as violent than men. Which actually makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:26 AM
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Listen, you have a point. Thing is, women absolutely suck at judgin character. Why does every women have a "my ex was a douchbag" story? Every single serial murdered in history was married. Chris Brown has no issues finding women to date. I understand your point, but "the psycho test" it's just the women finding you physically attractive, having things in common, and not doing "red flags" things (which depending on how attractive you are, they can ignore those red flags). That's pretty much all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:19 AM
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Women are absolutely interested in men. Just a small portion of attractive men. I swear some of you don't even have platonic relationships with other men, when they are attractive men, women aggressively approach them. Women enjoy sex and relationships with a small subset of men, same reason why so many women complain of men cheating... they are sharing the same men. It's a fact that elude them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:12 AM
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So you already have a guy responding, you're already more succesful that some men. How often do you ask men out? And what were your results in dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:17 AM
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Most women would end up with huge mental health issues as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:39 PM
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Cool you don't, most women here do believe that just world falacy. The fact is plenty decent men have a hard time dating being constantly rejected, and A LOT of douchebags have no issues finding women to date. I'm guessing you agree with that, so there's no point on arguing, I just felt like mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:37 PM
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Sounds like you're being sincere, so I'd give you my advice: Even irreparably ugly women can date, see Online dating experiment with Pig Woman Is therer a minority of women that can't date? For sure, but the main reason is they don't try at all. Let me ask you a few things: Have you tried dating apps? Where do you live (Or just tell me what's the population of your city, if that makes you feel safe)? Have you ever asked men out? If you do, when was the last time and how often do you do it? Do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:35 PM
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Neither are men the ultimate judge of character. Oh yeah, I know 100%, we're are all people and we all suck at choosing partners. However, men aren't the gender that claim that "We're attracted to nice women, we care about genuine personalities, if you can't get a men you need to work on yourself cause you're the problem". We're more honest in that way. You have a "women-are-wonderful" bias in your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:27 PM
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Lol not at all, women don't have to do any of that and still get men. I know, it's men's fault for not having standards aswell and I'd agree with you 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:26 PM
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Because women don't have to do anything, they can just focus on themselves and eventually a man they like will aproach. If you focus yourself as a man, and you're not good-looking, you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:29 AM
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Yeah, if you can be fooled so easily, you're terrible at judging people. Women aren't the ultimate judge of character you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:24 AM
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LOL Thanks for being honest about what would you do if I spend time discussing with you. Saved us time. FWIW I did some research about your point of view and I could only find some buzzfeed article, so I would have discredited you aswell, at least I'm backed up by real studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:23 AM
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I believe you, It's almost as if women aren't really attracted to "genuinely nice with good personalities", and being a douchbag dishonest man actually it's really helpful when looking for a women to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:57 AM
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People commit suicide due to lonelines all the time. There's also studies that show loneliness is terrible for you physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:10 AM
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There are different contexts in life. As family? I'm pretty high value, I treat my family very well. As a friend? Yeah, I try to do my best to help my friends. As a worker? Definitely, I always finish my tasks and help my coworkers. As a boyfriend? Not really, I'm pretty introverted, bad looking, kinda boring, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:04 AM
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No, even those women can get matches on dating apps/going out to bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:59 AM
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Please share the video, people always forget different studies from different countries have reached similar numbers. It's not only one study.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:55 AM
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Yeah, plenty of men are psychopats who usually have no issues when finding who to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:54 AM
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Some people think that this shows women are way more difficult to please in a relationship and it's equally as difficult to find a decent woman to date just like it is to find a decent man: A lot of modern women have mental issues, are abusive, control freaks, etc. This is however not accepted because it goes against the "Women-are-wonderful"/"Just-world" effect that so many people in Reddit have: Women are only interested in having serious mature relationships and are attracted to nice decent m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:15 AM
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No, plenty of men put a lot of effort in ther personalities. Plenty of women too. Plenty of men are misogynist and sexist douchbags (and still get laid with no issues), plenty of women are aswell. We're all people, whatever you think applies to one genre, with a few exceptions, it applies to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:06 AM
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Nothing, I'm sure bi women are having a blast with relationships (tbf probably same a straight ones aswell)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:04 AM
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Remembers rates of domestic violence in lesbians relationships Oh boy, good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:49 AM
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Remembers rates of domestic violence in lesbians relationships Oh boy, do I have a surprise for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:47 AM
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I've said this a few times before: The problem with modern men is they've been feed the "women care about your personality, looks don't matter" bullshit, which WAS TRUE in the past when women basically had to marry to survive, but it's not anymore. Playing out of your league is the reason why so many men are having issues with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:41 AM
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Nah, they just have a very relax view on relationships. And they are successful in dating. It's almost as if women are terrible at choosing partners aswell, being genuinely nice, attentive or any other crap women say is pretty irrelevant to being attractive. And I've heard that same advice from women aswell, albeit just once or twice compared to a tonshit with men. So I'd say it's a pretty common attitude to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:32 AM
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It's completely fine to accept the consequences of your actions if they are appropriate, but they aren't always. Which is what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:11 PM
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Yeah, it's okey to avoid uncomfortable situations. But as most things in life men are punished harder than women if they decide to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:58 PM
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Yes, if you feel entitled there's something wrong with you. If you feel you want a relationship, that's completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:45 PM
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Yeah, it depends where and with whom you're sensible, but usually being sensible openly withouth knowing how it's a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:42 PM
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"No, is okey for women to be scared of unkown men because 1 of every 100,000 men are potential killers!" "Men are scared of false accusations? LOL grow up you in.cel, there's barely a 1 in 100,000 chance of that happening" In case i'm not clear, any person who are scared of either thing usually have unresolved mental issues that makes them Fearmongering the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:39 PM
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Every single time I've heard this advice was from friends who were succesful with women. Trust me, they are very well trusted by women, sometimes trusted by more that one women at the same time if you know what I mean lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:36 PM
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True. The problem is men who are succeful with women aren't always "good" men, and the men who are being rejected aren't always "bad". That's why every woman have a "dating an asshole" story. This dynamic is really making dating worse for everybody, and is the source of so many modern dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:32 PM
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Yeah, that's why so many men are dropping out of dating. Society claims they want sensible men, but having weak sensible man is usually a bad thing for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:05 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:03 AM
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Yep, and it's a huge bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:32 AM
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It's well stablished women are the ones affected more by being promiscous. In men, it's nature and more common, heck, women aren't attracted to not promiscous men, ask 100 women if they'd date a 30 yo virgin men and see how many will say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:07 AM
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Congrats on being attractive, that's usually not the case for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:06 AM
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I mean yes... it's pretty obvious. Looks are the most important thing (can't talk more about that since is 'in.cel content' and not allowed in here). As long as you're not an absolute and complete douchebag (at least be good at hiding it), being physically good-looking is like 65% of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:00 AM
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Nah, he's probably good looking and have decent social skills, women like to pretend is the rizz when it's the looks most likely. That's really all it takes. Had an attractive friend whose opening line was you have beautiful eyes that's how he meet his college girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:55 AM
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Last time I check some women enjoy sex with men, dating and having kids. So, no I don't think this will affect society. We already have nuns and things like that, so nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:13 AM
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What are you talking about? the Schrödinger men are real: both simultaneously an incel who has never dated a women and a piece of shit who cheats and have abusive relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:11 AM
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He absolutely gave shitty examples, this ones are better: a man saying "All women are the same" are an incels. a woman saying "All men are the same", means she's smart and understand men. A man not wanting an overweight women is a superficial piece of shit A women wanting a 6' tall men mean she knows what she wants. A man cheating on a woman it's a piece shit A woman cheating on a man, probably wasn't feeling happy in the relationship and he wasn't taking care of her. etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:08 AM
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Men's standards are lower than women, because most men are craving to have their emotional/physicial needs met, plus most men have little to know prospects unlike most women. This has been talked about houndreds of times here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:44 AM
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In real life most people don't care if that's your preference. Actually a lot of women will find disgusting promiscous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:40 AM
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Lol yep. You've been with 6 partners at age 35? Ok. You've been with 120 partenrs at age 21? Fuckin ewww. A promiscous girl is like a man who pays for sex. A lot of people of the opposite sex will find it absolutely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:28 AM
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I remember a quote I read some years ago "if the average attractie woman were a average man, she would be an lncel". A lot of women have really shitty social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:25 AM
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Yeah, that's why no woman out there have a "my ex is an asshole" story or no women gets cheated on ever, you're only attracted to nice men, assholes men never date women lol. That's the just world falacy, women also suck when choosing a prospect, usually are attracted to the wrong things, just like men are aswell. You're not better or worse - that's my point, being nice is not as important as women make it out to be, saying that is more like a defense mechanism you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:19 AM
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Basically this. My friend who has never been single in 12 years and always has at least 1 girlfriend and 1 side chick it's going to give you good advice. The guy who spends his life in reddit probably it's going to give you shitty advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:04 PM
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Good for you, that's not the point. The point is a lot of "nice" guys are genuinely nice, this just-world falacy that most women have is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:58 PM
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Ya'll keep ignoring that a lot of those men are being constantly told by other people how "nice" they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:40 PM
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Oh sweetie, you'd unalive yourself if you were a man. Focusing in one person when you're looking who to date, is the secret to settling in an unhappy relationship, see, men don't have a big pool where to choose from, that's women's experience. That's also why "players" tend to be more succesful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:20 PM
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No, it's really just another women-are-wonderful/just-world falacy women believe. Remember most serial killers and rapist were in relationships. In reality there's not a lot of relation between "being your best version" and "being attractive to women". Women like to think that to feel more secure/content with how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:13 PM
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Biggest issue we have is that women believe in the women-are-wonderful effect and just-world falacy, which is why I don't think women would ever accept the reality of a lot of things. It's why horoscopes and spiritual issues are so popular with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:21 PM
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If you're good looking, everything else isn't as important as they say it is. As long as you're not into some creepy shit, you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah. 5'11 guy extremely muscular, has competed in bodybuilding competencies. Listens to Andrew Tate and some finance bros Cheated every women he's ever been with He's sexist AF and always share sexy pics of his fwb (ilegal in my country, so I asked to stop showing them to me) Not that bright, only finished highschool Has dated lawyers and doctors Got bored out of tinder because there's "a lot of fatties" Meet his last girlfriend she told me "he's so nice and sweet". lmao. he ended up cheating o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:06 PM
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You're right but I do believe future generation of men will stop focusing on women. Hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:03 PM
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...That's how the feminist movement started. Similar thing is happening with men, but there's a lot of resistance from society if you talk about men's issues. That's why the feminist movement is over 100 years old, it's not something quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:00 PM
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Not only men. Society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:12 PM
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Not wanting to see somebody you like with somebody else is not immature and selfish lol holy crap. It's a completely normal and healthy human reaction. If you want to keep being acquaintances that's fine. I'm guessing you're never really been rejected by somebody you love or even fall in love right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:00 AM
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No, you're not entitled to a friendship. Also, that silly mentality of putting other person's feelings over yours it's so outdated,and weird coming out from a woman. If I stop talking to you doesn't mean I hate you and I hope you're single forever. It means I value my mental and emotional health more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:55 AM
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If you we're kind and respectful you shouldn't feel regret. You did what you could with good intentions. The thing is most people aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:52 AM
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I mean no, some men aren't like that, we genuinely like a woman sometimes, and when we get rejected we decide to leave her alone cause it can be painful to be around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:47 PM
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For serious relationships? No, most men have some sort standards for serious relationships that are usually shamed by society (i.e Not being fat, not having a promiscous past, not being a extreme partygoer etc...) For having sex? There are some men (usually the most attractive ones) who would sleep with any women. I believe that's where the meme comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:45 PM
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What do you mean with utterly disregard feelings the woman's feelings?.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:41 PM
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I already said it. No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:13 PM
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Honestly, I was just throwing examples without thinking. That one particulary doesn't really exist because the way they make those studies are basically asking people. That's the most unreliable method it exists because people lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:49 PM
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It's usually several studies that reach to similar conclusions. Similar trends show in different countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:41 PM
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Oh, you made another great point. I also don't think beauty is as subjective as women make it out to be. There's a reason why Dany Devito has never played a main super hero character in a movie and why Henry Cavill is succesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:50 AM
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? Some of those sources are over a decade old, re-read my first comment again cause it seems you didn't get the point I was making. Also yes, some people are getting married. What's the point you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:45 AM
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Again, sure some of them do. Not all of them. And gain, every study has flaws if you look hard enought, they're basically stadistical samples, so they can have sampling errors, data manipulation, confounding variables, etc... But if that's the case then every single study and statistic ever will have flaws. That's why you should pay attention to the trends more than the results, and if those trends are showing at several places worldwide, it's pretty obvious there's something going on. Source: W…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:12 AM
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You'll find plenty of non-american studies with non-american data. So no, not all of them come from the PEW.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:58 AM
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Agree to disagree. (After all, that's the point of this thread)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:53 AM
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It's one study. Also the amount of men having sex is less and less every year, the amount of single men is increasing every year, men are opting out of the dating pool, etc... Every study out there will have flaws if you look for them, but when you have different studies from different sources reaching to similar conclusions, it's really your problem if you still don't want to see the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:50 AM
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Yep. And it's probably the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:36 AM
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Dating is exponentially harder for men that it is for women. Everybody, men and women, are unhappier single that in a relationship. Women care more about physicial appereance that society like to admit, men care less about phyisical appereance than society like to admit. Edit, to add: Beauty isn't as subjective as people think it is. Not saying is not subjective, it's just not at a level that a lot of people say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:35 AM
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While I completely agree with you, the thing is that, that number is rapidly changing. Remember: most men in their 20s are single, most women are not, this was a study done in 2023. I do believe OP isn't as wrong as people think, he's just ahead of the curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:32 AM
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That's how it goes. Me: "Here's a study which show personality doesn't matter as much as women make it out to be, they are as superficial as men, and they are actually unhappy when single" Everybody here: "lol you're autistic, that's not how it works lol, it's a lie" Me:"Oh.."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:28 AM
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For sure, but "highly desirable" does not mean "good person".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:25 AM
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Super common. Get some female friends and talk about relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:23 AM
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Heard it a lot when I worked with women. But tbf is probably something that isn't as common nowadays due to women liberation. Which I'm ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:23 AM
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Yep. As a men, I believe when a woman say no, men should leave her alone ffs. We need to have more self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:21 AM
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Or he's probably legit interested on you and being overly charming because he hasn't practiced enough and quite unexperience with romantic interactions (but may be ok with all other social interactions)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:20 AM
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Respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:18 AM
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I know! that's why is refreshing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:03 AM
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Annd that's why the "personality is all that matters" is a huge gaslighting to men. It's not all that matters, physical appereance, sense of humor, things in common,etc play a HUGE role.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:35 AM
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You must be good looking Refreshing every time a woman admit the importance of physical appereance to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:33 AM
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Or he probably just hadn't meet the right woman/focused on his career/other things in life that don't revolve around women. The "women are wonderful" effect on some women is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:28 AM
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LOL Whorecession will only happen if there's a considerable surplus of women. So, unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:23 AM
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I grew up surrounded by women. One thing I learned from listening their conversations is when a women break up with you, she already stop loving you months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:20 AM
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Agree with that. But that doesn't invalidate my original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:16 AM
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I don't get angry for that. It's annoyinig that most women aren't honest about it ("We care about personality and sense of humor because we're actually good people, unlike men who are pigs"). Women not giving two shits about personality if the guy look like a 6'6 Chris evans is completely fine. Not being honest about it is what is annoying and gaslighting to men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:23 AM
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in my 20s I had all red flags, every bad quality people list, I probably have had it and yet I found a woman just fine why? It just means you're good looking, if you're attractive personality and all that jazz is secondary. But yeah, usually following women's advice is not the best thing to do. Edit: Just saw your pic in your profile, definitley good lookin my man, and you look 20 years younger, it's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:18 AM
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Having a good sense of humor means she finds you physically attractive, she'd laugh of any dumb jokes you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:16 AM
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If they don’t like their lives, why the fuck would a woman want to join it? My first step to try to solve dating would be for people to stop assume men who are struggling "have something wrong in their life". Remember most serial killers were married. Being single =/= having a bad life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:14 AM
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I don't really understand the point of this place if most women just won't listen to whatever makes them see how shitty they can be. Honestly discussion is totally pointless here. And yeah, we men have no issues accepting we can be shitty, usually my shitty friends are the ones getting laid a all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:04 AM
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Well, most men in college were single (and even today, that's the same, remember most men in their 20s are single, most women are not), but the few that were in relationships, yeah, there some who were average for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:00 AM
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Never said we need to be mentally ill. We need to learn how to handle the male condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:59 AM
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Oh, so moving the goal post eh? lol I guess it's "not basically it" then, which I completely agree with you!(It's almost as if being attractive for men is a takes a ton of work compared to women). What other things can a man do to be attractive would you say then? We already stablished being fit "isn't basically it". Could you share 5 things a men can do to be attractive in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:57 AM
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Men with dark tetrad also are the ones who are more attractive to women. Studies are on the bottom of this article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-myths-sex/202203/the-sexual-appeal-dark-personalities I can see what you mean, after reading your study (altough it makes a difference between street prostitution and legal prostitution, the first being unacceptable and of course is the one with the worse type of men), however what I mean is that women think only some type of undesirable …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:53 AM
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Again it also comes from going to college and having succesful attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:32 PM
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It isn't fiction. The other comment already breaks down the logic behind the numbers. But I also know data analysis dont do much for people here if it contradicts how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:32 PM
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Awesome. So, a men who isn't fit, wouldn't be top man? Would it be safe to assume men who isn't into shape will struggle to find a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:59 PM
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If a women sent a message to a man, chances are that man is already within the top 20%. If the women sends 20 messages, those 20 men are within the 20% of top men, those men are definitely getting tons of messages. Isn't that hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:57 PM
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It comes from studies but also from going to college and having succesful attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:53 PM
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That's fair enough. Most of those things come from a mental health background, which is absoltuely a men's huge problem largely ignored by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:21 PM
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What would you consider "easy" that a man can do to be considered a "top tier"? I'm going to hopefully make you see you why dating is harder for men, following your logic. Also, would you agree that we're all humans with flaws and a lot of women are trash aswell? It's okey if you don't think they're at the same level than "trash" men, but at least they're not "girlfriend" material (they're manipulative/emotionally violent/unstable). I can't help you out if you don't agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:20 PM
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Sex work is legal in my country. What I've noticed is that there is still shame associated with it, most women think only "some type" of men hire sex workers, when in reality all types of men hire their services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:14 PM
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If you're a top tier man no doubt. It's like being rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:07 PM
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How do you think we make it harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:05 PM
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how to avoid “red flag” topics during a first date to essentially keep it going well. But that’s not the point of the first date I think it’s totally reasonable to use the first date to cross off any red flags. I mean, are you trolling? If that's the case sorry, I thought you were being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:45 AM
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Oh, sorry I got confused when you wrote people giving advice of how to avoid “red flag” topics during a first date to essentially keep it going well. But that’s not the point of the first date I see you're suffering from the good ol' "women-are-wonderful" effect. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:17 PM
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True, but my point is my attractive friend who dated like 20 different girls in college has more experience that the unattractive guy who's only dated 2 girls in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:16 PM
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No, I'm pretty unattractive lol. My college friends however they were, I was witness of mental and physical abuse a few times, aswell as having his cellphone destroyed by a jealous girlfriend. Also had a uncle with an Attempted murder from his wife. Remember, women-on-man violence is more common more than ever and women-on-women relationships have the highest rate of violence in all type of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah, I can agree on that. My point is, how some women, not all women, also behave exactly like your original comment stated, looking for a "succesful date" and "searching for red flags". That's not a "men" thing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:00 PM
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Or, hear me out guys, you do what you want and enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:09 PM
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That's because women treat the first date as a job interview. If you see men "being careful" with what they say, is because we've been through the "women treating date like a job interview" date before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:05 PM
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That'd be moderately helpful. But like all social issues, it's society in general that need to work on how to tackle it, which is why I'm not hopeful about this issue being fixed anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:51 AM
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Obligatory "not all men". But lack of emotional intelligence/mental health support in men has been a pretty big talking point even in the modern feminist movements. It's really no secret men lack the support for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:26 AM
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Because a woman want different things in a boyfriend and in a friend, but they do it unconsciously. That's why women's advice tends to be really bad, it usually comes from a "be her friend" place, which it's a terrible perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:12 AM
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I'd say is more likely due to a mix of high testosterone and men lacking emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:09 AM
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As an atheist I always believe religion strength comes from a sense of comunity and unity. NGL that's kinda cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:06 PM
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Yeah, they exist, but I've noticed they tend to be quiet. I know at least three: The first one, around 28-29, is with this really cool childfree girl. They've been together for like 5 years, got themselves an apartment last year, and are engaged. I kinda lost touch about a year ago, but I'm pretty sure they're still pretty happy. Second guy, in his late 40s, is a executive at a bank and teaches at the university part-time (that's where I first knew him because he was my teacher). He's all about …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:04 AM
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Yeah, basically. Remember those studies showing how men with mysoginistc traits actually fair better with women. Women will never accept this however and I can totally understand why. If I were a woman I won't like to accept that I'm attracted to agressive man that could potentially harm me, I'd just go with "I like sensible men".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:36 PM
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That's his point about unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:33 PM
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And that's totally fine. That's your personal preference based on your personal beliefs. As long as you understand some men think similary about promiscous people based on their personal moral beliefs (Which I'm guessing you do), I think you're being coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:44 PM
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So, would you listen a guy reasoning why he paid for sex if he wants to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:37 PM
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My friend, I know a woman who started dating a men because they were "compatible star signs". She's 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:35 PM
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That's when it gets subjective and it depends on a lot of things. 20 partners by age 21? That's definitely sign of bad motives. 20 partners by age 50? even though It's still way to high for me, I can understand other men who also were promiscous been fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:31 PM
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Women in this thread seems to be fine with it. Talking about this issue in other places, they aren't fine with it. In reality, you can have preferences regardless of your genre or sex. People not wanting promiscous partners is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:29 PM
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Some of them are interested in monogamous LT relationship and when looking for a woman they have preferences for women without a promiscous past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:28 PM
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Men and women are almost equally bad. Female-to-men violence in relationships have been on the rise in the last decade or so. It's a little bit of unrealistic standards for sure, but also the way society has been transforming into a more solitary one, look at japanese culture, they are always ahead of the curve in social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:48 AM
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Not really, plenty of introverted guys, asexual, religious or just traditional men don't really have sex high in their priorities, so they may find a person with a promiscous past disgusting. Even if that' doesn't make sense to you, it's their choice. You're disgusted by how men use another persons body for their sole purpose when that's the base of capitalism, I'm sure as hell don't like to rent my mind 40 hours a week for a paycheck but that's how the system is. It's not inherently bad. We dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:36 AM
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But surely you can see how men can be disgusted by promiscous women too? Just like you're disgusted by men paying for sex because in your personal opinion is not ethical, some men think similar in that regard. Would you say men not wanting a promiscous woman is valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:08 AM
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would you date a promiscous man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:05 AM
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Kinda agree with you, but honestly it's hard to imagine a person having sex with, let's say 100 people because "he/se was in love" with all 100, at that point I think it points at heavy mental issues, I agree with the "Motive matters more than action", I'd argue a person sleeping with a bunch of people usually don't have good motives (mental issues, falls in love easily, too dependent, etc...)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:01 AM
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Agree with you, and from what I've read here most women are okey with that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:58 PM
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Yeah, from what I gather people are fine with people not wanting to date promiscuous people, but in society is more heavily focused to the "men are bad for having that preference". when in reality is okey to have it regardless of your genre/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:57 PM
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would you date a promiscuous man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:56 PM
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From what I gather from the comments in here, most women are fine with men/women having these preference which personally, is totally the way I see it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:55 PM
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I've been to the gym for 3 years now. Women don't care if you look at them, chances are they don't even pay attention to you. Just avoid peak hours where it fills with teenagers and tiktokers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:32 AM
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Yes, it is indeed availbale to everybody but some men may not have the finance to buy one. I know those men shouldn't be having sex, but they are indeed having sex. You can't forbid people to have sex, that's really not useful. What we have to do is giving people the tools to become more responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:26 AM
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Completely agree with you 100% but people love to fuck. I believe condoms should be free too btw aswell as all contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:24 AM
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Indeed I'm not american. It's completey ridiculous that people have to pay for the birth. Everything related to sexual education/parenting responsabilities should be free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:22 AM
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I completely agree with you, but people are having sex regardless of their economical status. Not much you can do other than teach them sex education and helping them with these types of tools to improve their parenting responsabilities. And yeah contraceptive methods should also be 100% free just in case you're wondering my opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:16 PM
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Then we have a difference in ideology and we'll never see eye to eye and no point on keep arguing. I don't think healthcare is the same as buying a house or taking a vacation, birthing rights are more important than that. Just a final question. Do you think a person who needs insulin needs to pay for it? Or a women giving birth needs to pay for the hospital?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:31 PM
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Is it the job of the government to pay for each and every non-essential thing someone can't afford? Birthing/parenting rights is definitely essential. Yeah, sorry. I'm not american, all those things are free in my country. Definitely there's a lot that need worked out before paternity tests. For once, is completely ridiculous birthing isn't free, women shouldn't have to pay for that. Eventually we'll get to paternity tests but there's a lot to be done first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:22 PM
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For sure, I stand corrected more like "default", you should be able to opt out if both parties agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:19 PM
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Here's a my answer to a similar comment I wrote some minutes ago: Sure, but I believe some men don't have the finance to buy one, as I believe in universal health care I think we should be provided one free of cost if needed. And since women take offense when asked, just make that part of the birth process to avoid offend people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:19 PM
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Sure, here's the answer that I wrote for another comment similar to this: Sure, but I believe some men don't have the finance to buy one, as I believe in universal health care I think we should be provided one free of cost if needed. And since women take offense when asked, just make that part of the birth process for everybody to avoid offending people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:18 PM
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That's interesting for sure. And yeah, actually that's another interesting point to analize for paternity tests and how it could help women (and society in general really). It's a topic that needs more talk around it for sure, any answer that I or you can give to this would be incomplete. However for the sake of conversation I can give you my opinion: Maybe if both parties don't want the get a paternity test, then they will have to pay for the birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:17 PM
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Sure, but I believe some men don't have the finance to buy one, as I believe in universal health care I think we should be provided one free of cost if needed. And since women take offense when asked, just make that part of the birth process to avoid offend people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:13 PM
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Sure, but can you quote again what was your actual questions? I'm answering a lot of questions. Kinda got lost a litte bit, also english is my second language.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:12 PM
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Why should it be part of the birth process since the man isn't physically involved in the birth process? It was a matter of speaking, the mother doesn't need to take part of the process (they just need to take to swab the baby and the father), it's just easier to make it part of the birth process. If anything doing this would just put the child at risk for violence How so? Why would insurance or hospitals want to get involved in all of that potential drama? I'm not american but I'm sure there's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:00 PM
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Certainly. It should be mandatory to help men who can't afford paternity tests. On top of this, there are a lot of advantanges for the kid, the mother and the father. And I agree you should be free to "opt out" if both parties agree. https://dnacenter.com/blog/exploring-the-many-benefits-of-paternity-testing/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:54 PM
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Should be mandatory by law. I'm sorry that you feel so offended by it. I'm sure 90% of women are absolutely honest about it, and shouldn't feel offended by this, but is needed for the other 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:50 PM
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It is. I'm sorry that you have a lot hate against men as shown in your first comment. If you have another question about this issue asked in good faith, feel free to ask it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:47 PM
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If they don't wanna do it, they shouldn't do it. Why is that "no an answer" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:46 PM
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No, again here's my answer to that argument that I wrote in another comment: It's not wasted money if they help people. I'm pro-universal healthcare. I'm pro-abortion. I'm pro-gender-affirming surgery. And I'm pro-paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:17 PM
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If that makes you uncomfortable you're looking at it from the wrong perspective, that's why I believe it should be available for everbody, here I explained better in my other comment: Make paternity test part of the birth process. I always find funny that women immediatly blame your ability to choose women if you are pro-paternity tests. This is not a "I don't trust on my girlfriend" issue, this is a "I know some men have gone throught a lot of problems that could be avoided if they did a patern…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:16 PM
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If that makes you uncomfortable you're looking at it from the wrong perspective, that's why I believe it should be available for everbody, here I explained better in my other comment: ​ Make paternity test part of the birth process. I always find funny that women immediatly blame your ability to choose women if you are pro-paternity tests. This is not a "I don't trust on my girlfriend" issue, this is a "I know some men have gone throught a lot of problems that could be avoided if they did a pate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:15 PM
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Again, is not a "my issue" is a "helping all men" issue, I already explained it in another comment: ​ Make paternity test part of the birth process. I always find funny that women immediatly blame your ability to choose women if you are pro-paternity tests. This is not a "I don't trust on my girlfriend" issue, this is a "I know some men have gone throught a lot of problems that could be avoided if they did a paternity test and I think the government should do something to help ALL men in that as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:13 PM
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No, that's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:10 PM
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If both parties agree they don't want it (mother and father), then they could opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:09 PM
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Agree, I'm just saying dating for men is extremely more difficult than dating for women. I know you'll probably agree but the fact is 90% of people out there won't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:09 PM
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Men are vulnerable to paternity fraud. Also I pay my taxes, I don't care if I'm not a woman, i'm 100% pro-abortion. It's about helping people, I don't think women are deliberate morons, they are people who can make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:08 PM
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You should be free to opt out if both parties agree, for sure. But chances are they already have the genetic information one way or another if you have universal healthcare. Also them having your genetic information makes them faster to take care of you if an emergency happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:03 PM
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It's not wasted money if they help people. I'm pro-universal healthcare. I'm pro-abortion. I'm pro-gender-affirming surgery. And I'm pro-paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:56 AM
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The biggest one I can see being an overwhelming fear of rejection and adverse emotional overreactions to that rejection. 100% agree with you, but here's the thing, A GOOD chunk of women are exactly like this aswell, that's why most women don't approach men. Thing is, they don't get penalized as much in dating as men and is more socially accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:45 AM
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Make paternity test part of the birth process. I always find funny that women immediatly blame your ability to choose women if you are pro-paternity tests. This is not a "I don't trust on my girlfriend" issue, this is a "I know some men have gone throught a lot of problems that could be avoided if they did a paternity test and I think the government should do something to help ALL men in that aspect" Just because a women is pro-abortion, doesn't mean she wants to abort his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:34 AM
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Why is this such a big topic now? Because a lot of women see it as an offense. Just read at women's comments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:30 AM
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Paternity test should be mandatory on birth, government should just add it to the the birth process at the hospital, nobody is offended since it would be part of the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:28 AM
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That dude is an idiot, and also the reason why paternity test should be mandatory on birth, government should just add it to the the birth process at the hospital. This is not a "I don't trust my girlfriend" issue, this is a "I know some men have gone throught a lot of problems that could be avoided if they did a paternity test and I think the government should do something to help all men in that aspect"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:27 AM
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I'm not the guy you asked but I have acquaintances in the same position, they're usually physicially unattractive, too short o really career focused, they just live their life doing their own thing, woman don't show any sort of interest other than as friends (one of them has a lot of female friends but the poor dude is like 1.50 or 4'11), they are moderately succesful on their job and have no issues having friends, I've seen one of them with a girlfriend some years ago but didn't last long, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:51 PM
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I'm gonna go with be attractive. The fact that each pill thinks being attractive means different things is a different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:44 PM
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Good to see this as the top comment, but sad that all the other comments are justifications. Op is absolutely right, people just assume ALMOST ("he's ugly" is not accepted because women don't care about that you silly goose.) all the bad things when a man sucks at dating ("he's a bad person", "he's socially inept", "he's misogynistic", etc...) to justify their just-world fallacy. The simple concept of "there are decent men out there who have problems with dating" is mind bending for a lot of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:40 PM
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No, they way I feel better with myself is fixing/creating/improving stuff, is almost as if women are usually the ones who put more importance on physicial appereance.🤔 But don't point that out!.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:24 PM
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Some men may actually want to check notes marry, start a family and have kids and that may be very high on his priorities in life, it's almost as if not all men are womanizers who just want to sleep around and that's only a small subset of successful attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:57 PM
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Yeah, I used to work at a female-dominated field (interior design) and went to a female-dominated college, I realize most women lie about this subject, I guess it makes them feel good with themselves, nobody wants to admit how important looks are when looking for a partner even though they are, it's a bad thing to judge people on looks even though we all do it. The most honest women were the ones who ended up being close friends of mine, it's like the filter is off when you become close friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:29 PM
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This is reddit, there's always a "progressive/extreme leftist/pro-women" dye to most communities here. Not a lot you can do about it without being banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:07 PM
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Refreshing everytime a women is honest about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:06 PM
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Niceee. Appreciate the honesty coming from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:46 PM
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Not at all. I feel like it's hard to express feelings in a way women expect or are satisfied about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:32 PM
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I agree on this one, most women generally speaking unless they are heavily physically disfigured or have a serious neurodivergent issue (And even then, the penalty isn't as big as it is for men) have no problems getting a date/relationship. This is why dating/relationships in general are exponential more difficult for men that it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:17 AM
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I'm mexican, never heard about this movement in this context (Ni una menos is about feminicides, not sex and dating, most mexican women enjoy sex and dating, surprisingly). We're one of the countries with the higher numbers (saddly) of teenagers having kids and getting married. You need to touch some grass and not believing everything you see online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:30 AM
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And sex too, last time I check women women also enjoy sex. This movement is just inc.els for women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:29 AM
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Dunno, they're probably shitty people. Point is personality != looks, goes both ways of course. Just like there are plenty of decent guys ignored by women, plenty of shitty guys are able to date. Again, men who are struggling are not always the same men who are actually dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:24 AM
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Okey...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:19 AM
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The men who are struggling are not always the same men who are actually dating and treating women badly. It's a concept that elude women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:56 PM
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Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:55 PM
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Agree to everything you said, but also applies to women. I hope you'll agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:43 PM
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Got the opposite vibe. Women really hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:24 PM
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As a man I agree, it's no 70% but is also not as small as most women think here. I'd say is somewhere in the middle and increasing each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:23 PM
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Oh yeah, classic "If a woman can't get a date, it's the men's fault" but "if the man can't get a date, you need you work on yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:18 PM
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Generally, men are honest when asked what they want in a woman. if a guy says he wants a cute, smart, funny girl, that's usually what he really wants, that's why those girls are so popular in the dating market, and that's why all the funny, smart, cute girls are in a relationship 90% of times. When asking women what they find attractive in a guy, you'll notice a lot of men who fit into that description who struggle on the dating market, or are in a LTR after a lot of attempts and tons of rejecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:50 PM
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Everybody is attracted to physicial appereance to a degree. Any person saying they don't care at all are just lying, the thing is, more women lie about that than men. 90% of men would be honest if you ask them if they care about a girl being overweight, 90% of women would lie if ask a similar thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:44 PM
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I mean, I understand that makes you feel confortable after what you went through but no, plenty of people with issues will continue to marry, I don't understand why accepting this is such a big issue. I love your logic of women ending up alone because they choose it, but men who end up alone are problematic. I know I won't make you change your mind, you have the just-world/women-are-wonderful fallacies buried so deep within you, there's no point on arguing. But appreciate your point of view, I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:15 PM
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Look at what women do, don't listen to what they say, those two things are almost always contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:03 PM
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So agree, is not like women have this super power to detect good men. The true is, a lot of decent men are going to end up alone because women just don't find them attractive despite being decent people. The same goes the other way around for sure, but that's an accepted idea in society while the other way around is not. ("If a women can't find a man, is men's fault. If a man can't find a women it's his fault, he needs to be better").
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:00 PM
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Of course, but rejection leves for men are so extremely high nowadays that some men just aren't trying anymore. As a women you really have no idea how high rejection is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:58 PM
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Nobody is a prize. Point is women are can be as shitty/normal as men my friend, they suck at judging character too, can be superficial and more often than not are terrible at choosing their partner. Don't know why that's offensive for some people, putting your genre in a pedestal makes peolpe feel more confortable I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:04 PM
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We aren't approaching women but not because don't find them attractive, too much risk involved and 99% chance of being turned down or worse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:02 PM
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Not talking about who deserves what, I'm talking about those shitty men will get into relationships just like you were already in a relationship with one, is just the just-world fallacy women believe that makes them feel good with themsevels. The true is women suck at judgin character, just like men suck too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:59 PM
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Congrats, you're part of the 90% of women who can do the easiest thing in life for women. My point is only a minority of women can't attract men, I assumed you were in that place, unsurprisingly you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:56 PM
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Ah, just-world fallacy. Classic. I'm sure killers, muderers and manipulatiors will die alone. I'm sure you nor your friends have "crazy ex boyfriends" stories because you only date good guys.😂 Those shitty guys will keep dating women with no problems, women are humans and they suck at judging character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:54 PM
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I'm honestly starting to think there's hope for a better future for men🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:49 PM
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I'd argue the difference men aren't "double faced" we're honest about physicial attractivness, women are usually the ones who are double faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:46 PM
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I guess, being outside, yes. I'm sorry if that's too much for you, like I said I don't doubt there are women with some sort of mental issue that have problem with this, but that's not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:44 PM
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Men also approach women they find attractive which is a minority of all women. Not at all. I'm sorry if you have no social skills or are afraid to "be out there" but all women can find men who will find them attractive. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XHdO4uMD2Us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:38 PM
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Yeah, this is probably a life-changer moment for OP. It happened to my back in college with my attractive male friends, had no idea women did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:33 PM
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Interesting point. Personally I'd disagree because if you look at suicide rates/happines levels and similar stats most people, including a lot of men, are having an absolutely negative experience in life, I don't think "people are choosing confort" as much as you think. I do believe a small fraction of people are definitely doing what you're saying, but I guess it comes down to who do we belive are the majority and minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:15 PM
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I understand your first point, I used to browse /r/amiugly all the time and got tired of seeing so many attractive people, I've been to therapy tons of times to learn that most people just have self-steem issues, and body dysmorphia is huge nowadays. Ignoring the fact that I'm not american and I hate the righ-left politization of everything, and that this thing is happening at a global scale, then fine, let me ask you a different thing: What do you think about the studies that show men aren't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:25 PM
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You're right, scratch government.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:21 PM
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A lot. He used to share his facebook's inbox all the time with me aswell as his whatsapp messages, also went to a few parties where I saw how women approached him, when he was physicially attacked was in a party in front of 50+ people, and had 3 different school trips where he ended up getting laid, once in the bed above me lol. Ngl he's inded really good looking plus he's a gym rat, had a visible 6-pack, nowadays he's still fit, don't know if he's still got the 6 pack tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:14 PM
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Never heard that coming from schools, workplaces, news, goverment or social programs. Maybe you need to take a break from internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:39 PM
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Most guys don’t realize girls can be proactive and show interest cause majority of men aren’t attractive enough to warrent them doing that. Had a extremely attractive guy friend in college. Those were the 4 craziest years of my life just by listening to his stories: From girls literally inviting him to have sex in the bathroom, sending him very direct DMs, being extremely persistent if they were turn down by him (I learned women handle rejection 10 times worse than men do, even had girls physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:55 PM
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Yeah that's why I said he's kinda right, I'd like for OP general idea to be more accepted in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:42 PM
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i dont think they are worse than taken guys, i think assuming anyone is "good" is not a realistic premise to start on Then we agree. Sadly people in general have a hard time accepting this. then i guess its only women who are bombarded with the opposite How are you bombarded with the opposite? We're reminded every day in schools, workplaces, news, goverment, social programs that "men are sexists, most men are not good enough that's why women are choosing to stay single, women need to be helped i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:41 PM
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I appreciate the respectful answer, overall I agree with you with everything, however the thing about the first point is that what I think is harmful is that people, specially women tend to focus more on the "they aren't all good guys either." The truth is the majority of people, including men are decent people. The problem is that people tend to focus on the later. Proof of this is how, your first instinct when reading my "not all men are bad" was focusing on how "some are definitely bad". We k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:41 AM
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As a perpetually single 33-year old man I can give you my opinion: You're kinda right but that's an exaggerated view of reality. Men who have issues dating, don't have "serious" issues. We're not misogynistic psychopats who hate women, at least personally I just have below average social skills and really bad physical appereance, that's all. I am a freelancer and I can talk to people just fine and even in a second language I run my business dealing with people with no issues, what I mean with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:38 PM
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Agree, but is not as insignificant as you think. And it's probably bigger than the amount of women who are into fat dudes, so initial point still stand, is easier for women to find a men who likes fat girs than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:18 AM
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No, but accepting than men lie is more common in society than accepting women lie. Also even though both genres lie, usually men don't care that much if a woman is to desperate/short/ugly so we don't lie about that as often as women lie about it. And the men who care more and talk more about women like that are usually the ones who fair better at dating, I know that goes against women just-world belief of "we're only attracted to kind guys" but that's how I've seen it in my 33 years of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:17 AM
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If you are not unattractive and have good social skills, it may work. But again, if you're not unattractive and have good skills and you actively look for a woman to date, you'll find her faster. So, is true, but is irrelevant, if that makes sense. It's a "Fedora only look good on good-looking guys who don't need to improve their looks" type of situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:23 AM
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There are men who like BBW, there are facebook pages that post pics of "cute female convicts", also most men don't care how a woman dress, what the hell are you talking about?. So no, usually women don't have to put a lot of effort. I don't know why this is such a controversial fact in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:06 AM
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Basically, yes. Men have to understand most women are polite when dealing with men, most won't be honest with you because they don't want to hurt your feelings, things like "you're too desperate, too short, too ugly, etc..." are complete off the table for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:55 AM
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If you're good looking with low-self steem sooner or later a girl will want to date you, specially if you're young. Physicial appereance can overpower most other features in a man. Except maybe power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:44 AM
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Most women do nothing when it comes to dating (don't ask men out, don't approach, etc..) and they still have no issues finding men to date. So no, generally speaking for women is true. I'm sure there are some women with neurodivergent issues/extreme physicial disabilities/live in isolated places with a surplus of men that may have problems finding men to date, but they're not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:30 AM
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men* dating/relationships for women require no effort whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:28 AM
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Probably not, but can help with your self-steem. I've yet to met a man who "has dated plenty of women out of his league" who are genuinely ugly, they usually just have a messed up self-view. Or are rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:39 PM
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Could you imagine another consequences if rape and harassment weren't crimes? Most men won't do it, because you know, is a fucked up thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:37 PM
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If you can find a girl who’s OK with it more power to you I wouldn’t be. Yeah, that's the bottomline, a smart woman who knows paternity test is actually full of benefits for the kid and the relationship(https://kellerlegalservices.com/blog/2023/05/29/why-paternity-testing-is-a-good-idea-for-everyone-involved/) it's the type of woman I want as a partner. This isn’t ok any more than you would be OK with her demanding STD test once a year. you can have STDs withouth having sex actually, so I won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:14 PM
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How you feel is not relevant, that's your issue. If it makes my partner feel safe and all it requires is a small sacrifice fom my part and, god forbid, being faithful, most men would be okay with that. That's not a common idea in women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:40 PM
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If the lie detector was done fast in like 1 minute, without intrusion of privacy, paid by the insurance, a lot of men would be ok if makes their partner feel more safe (Only the cheaters would care tbh). That's ignoring the fact that "accusing of cheating" isn't even at the same life-changing level of having a kid and is a stupid comparasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:33 PM
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Attractive, rich men > Attractive, rich women > rich men > rich women >>> attractive women > attractive men > unattractive women >>>>>> unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:22 PM
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Read the stats, only like 5% of relationships have a gap bigger than 10 years. The fact both pills are super obsessed with this issue from different perspectives is annoying AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:17 PM
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Yeah, not surprised, women here seldom represent real life women wierdly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:43 AM
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Plenty of men are like that too. He's saying women aren't these special angels who only fall in love with kind super unique men with great souls. They're humans and some of them cheat and lie just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:01 AM
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Totally understandable my friend, but I think you need to work a little bit on your attachment to people, I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but attachment shouldn't be something you give so easily. Again, there's nothing wrong with not sleeping around, I think that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:59 PM
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No. Another idea that most women have is that they are these angels who are above men and don't cheat and are always 100% commited to a relationship. The truth is women cheating/abusing their partners have been on the rise for a while now, if anything that's just show how much more difficult men have it: Women can have sex whenever they want it, but commitment is difficult. For men having sex OR commitment is difficult. Of course most women here are okey with that idea. It makes them look like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:36 PM
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Personal experience with my married friends, but they get hassle all the time by their partner to do things they don't want/not doing things they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:33 PM
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Oh yeah, other factors like power, social status and money can slighlty tip the balance for a man, for sure, that's where the "beta bucks" phrase come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:31 PM
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I mean, yeah, dating apps aswell as a lot of studies have pretty much confirmed women have higher physical standards than men, while men usually have a way broader spectrum of what consider an attractive women. But it's one of those things we don't accept as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:27 PM
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Yeah, the average person is going to Europe every year wooohw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:37 PM
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She's dating a wealthy man who is probably attractive and she thinks she's the only woman in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:36 PM
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A few things, firstly for men in average, sex and emotions are not always related unlike for women. Secondly, the men who cheat are actually a minority, they tend to fair better with women because they are attractive, powerful or both, but that's not the average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:42 PM
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You're both kinda right and kinda wrong. Those guys who get more matches after updating their profiles are not because "their prompts are high quality, interesting and give off player vibes." It's simply because in their photos they look physically more attractive, looks are the most important thing on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:15 PM
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Personal experience but the "average men" who are doing well in dating apps are not average at all. They're fairly good looking, while not super models they're definitely not average. The real average guys either got 0 matches on dating apps, or get a few over a course of several months and they get into LTR with one of those girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:11 PM
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Just a question are you a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:09 PM
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My man approached me in the gym. Prior to him approaching me, men almost on a daily basis would approach me in the gym. You got your answer right there OP. You have to be out there and risk make women a little uncomfortable, that's how men find a women. That's also why there's so many issues with dating nowadays, we have taugh men is wrong to approach women and we have taugh women not to be patient with men approaching. It's a clusterf*ck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:18 PM
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Holy shit, she's the one who is afraid to approach but you are the one with confidence issues. Word of advice, you don't want to date a women with no self steem and so scared of asking you out, it's probably going to be a pain in the ass to be with somebody so immature (unless she's 19 and you are too), is her loss, you have to look for something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:53 AM
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Only men who approach now are extremely attractive men, who tend to be womanizers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:47 AM
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That's literally how dating apps work. And now you understand why dating apps and online dating have been so detrimentally to guys. Also almost every relationship start with one meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:46 AM
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traditionally male traits are attractive to women and traditionally female traits are attractive to men That'd be a better wording for your idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:19 PM
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Women usually will continue to sleep with him until he falls in love with her (that's what women think will happen) lol. If it was my daughter? Tell her to dump him. He's a top men, she'll never be the only one. It would probably be futile because she'll think she's the one who will change him, I'd let her make her own mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:18 PM
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I remember a study about how women cheating was so incredible high and at the same time most men are not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:16 PM
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Dunno but check how is it going in Japan, they are always 10-20 years ahead in relationships/social issues. spoiler: Won't be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:28 PM
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Do you remember that study that said women-women relationships are the type of relationships that suffer from most violence? I genuinely think women's mental health plays a bigger role in dating and relationships than society likes to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:31 PM
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Yeah. It's really fun. 90% of my experiences have been positive. It's much better than jerking off: the view, the smell (mostly lol), the touch, the taste, the intimacy(even if it is one-time, most women tend to share personal things before-during-after the act, sex for women is way more intimate than for men). I completely understand men who don't like it, and I think that's actually cool, but I'm personally here to enjoy myself in life. I've also always think people who think it "feels empty" …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:06 PM
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Search "Are men unable to secure relationships with women due to their misogyny? A look at the data." in here. Also, tons of studies, but won't waste my time since people just discard them. But feel free to google them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-myths-sex/202203/the-sexual-appeal-dark-personalities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:23 PM
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No. Rapist, murderers and sociopaths get in relationships/married all the time. You're right, Kindess doesn't matter, it's almost as if people should stop pretending having a kind personality matters to get a relationship, and that men who can't get into a relationships may have other issues rather than their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:14 PM
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I mean ignoring that some likely do it for the cheating possibility and mental health aspect that I mentioned, yes probably others do it for that reason, justifiably. Plenty of women won't date virgins, is seen as a "red flag", sex it's used as a mocking subject for men too ("small penis energy", " he has never made a women cum", etc...). It comes down to the dynamic of how men see sex vs how women see sex. For women is easy and available all the time, for men that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:13 AM
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This comes down to how men/women see sex. Women would never understand how hard is for men to have sex, because for a women is the easiest thing in the world. A woman who have a lot of sex, didn't have to do anything other than going to a bar/downloading a dating app. A man who have a lot of sex, is charming, good looking, persistent, resilient, nice, have great social skills, has money, is a great talker, etc.. (Not all of those at the same time, but a bunch of those qualities). This difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:43 PM
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No, but lower-count is what a lot of men want nowadays. People who have higher body counts tend to be more prone to cheating. Also mental health, pair bonding and all that good stuff that most women hate to admit. I don't care if you slept with 3 guys at 30 years. I care if you slept with 100 at 29 years, it means you probably suck at judging character or having stable relationships. Woman can do it to, but usually men with high body count tend to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:24 PM
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No, I made a mistake I wanted to put it in quotes, I fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:22 PM
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"Sex, the biological need of all humanity isn't important for some people" Oh yeah, I'm sure a minority of men and women fit in that category. That's no the average person tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:08 PM
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True, bad wording. I never said it doesn't matter, it just matters less that women like to admit, it's probably a defense mechanism and you all do it unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:11 PM
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The issue with this is that women will always keep pretending personality matters more thant it actually does. As long as we keep pushing that belief, this "nice guy" thing will always exist, because there'll always be genuinely kind guys who are ugly/have bad social skills and are having a tonshit of problems with dating. When "genuienely kind guys" find out it's not helping them dating, then women will say you need to be "super kind guy" and when that isn't helping them, women will say you nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:45 PM
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You don't have to have access to other people's property, if I get to that point the relationship is already destroyed. I always find those types of hypotetical situations crazy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:38 PM
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Plenty of studies show men with misogynistic traits do better with women, so it makes sense, but it's one of those things women don't like to accept, its likely a defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:34 PM
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Best take in the thread. People are treating other people as commodities nowadays, everybody does it men, women, straight, gay, etc... At least this idea makes those men "go out" of their shells and find a first relationship that would probably help them mentally, and while obviously is not the most optimal solution, as long as they do it playfully I think that's okay. Only shitty thing is the name lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:25 PM
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Women: We like nice men Also every women ever: I have a crazy ex story, he was a psycho! The reality is, women suck just as much as men when it comes to judge character.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:17 PM
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lmao the one where he has his hand on his daughter's shoulder? Thank god most people don't eat that tabloid outrage-bait crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:18 PM
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It's the social media and online dating that is skewing young people view on sex and relationships. It's completely fucked up. Women will have tons on matches on dating apps, men usually see that as a good thing because the average guy is lucky if he has 2 different women interested on him. It's that difference in experience also what creates a lot of issues and lack of understanding from both sexes about the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:52 PM
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made some shitty dark joke some time ago, people were outraged, he apologized, everything is fine. Amber heard also said he did some inappropriate stuff on the set of aqua man, but is amber heard so nobody believes her cause is probably fake/exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:07 PM
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that's what masculinity is for me. Not being perfect, but being better everyday. Not being weak, but being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:36 PM
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Dave Bautista, Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:48 PM
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You know people say men are terrible at rejection? I firmly believe if women were the ones who have to initialize they'd do houndred times worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:19 PM
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I think it is definitely an issue with modern dating, and it goes both ways, the amount of "women who don't need a man because I am strong and independent" and the amount of men who "want to spend my money and time in myself" are definitely a factor that's messing up dating. Dating and marriage is about sacrificing yourself for other person, that's a feeling that's not popular nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:03 PM
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I believe the lifetime average is something like 7 or 8 so 10 at 25 you're definitely way pass average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:34 AM
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That's like a standard clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:03 AM
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Im not unsympathetic. You know when that friend that makes 200K a year, is happily married, comes from a rich family, is extremely good looking and overall does good in life, suddenly gets his car stolen one day? It sucks, I can sympatize with him and I'd gladly help him if he needs my help, but it's not something that'll make feel bad for him in general. It's something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:08 AM
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Oh yeah. Both genres do it, but women are the ones who don't like to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:38 PM
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Agree. Likewise I've never meet a promiscous women who didn't had issues with their mental health growing up, like holy shit the things I saw, I went to a female-dominated college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:05 PM
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Never said it was. Again, most "pills" are just real behaviour that's been around for ages. They just rely on hyperboles depending on what you believe and your personal experience, i.e. Unattractive men will focus too much on physical appereance and think that's the only thing that matters, in reality physicial appereance definitely matters most thatn women like to admit, but that's NOT the only thing they look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:01 PM
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The Past matters if you want to otherwise you're free to ignore it. Just don't be a hypocrite about it (i.e It's fine if women are promiscous but men being virgin is a red flag)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:40 PM
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Generally being more aggresive, assertive and better looks improves your chances with women. It's true to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:42 PM
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They don't like it if you're unattractive. Go and ask every women you know that is in a relationship: who approached first, them or their boyfriends/husbands? 90% of cases is the men. They want unattractive men to stop approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:02 PM
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TRP is founded on real human behaviour. However the internet tends to rely in hyperboles way too much when it comes to ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:00 PM
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It's specially true for teenagers, once you mature is not as common. But what I've noticed is women do something similar except for them is the "friend-boyfriend" complex, once you become a platonic friend you're never going to be seen as boyfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:55 PM
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The truth is yes, aggresive men tend to fair better with women that non-aggressive men. Usually women discard this point with the Just-world-fallacy ("Only toxic women are attracted to toxic men"). But why they discard it? Simple, women will never admit this because is a survival instinct. Why the fuck would you accept you're attracted to aggresive men, when a woman is more likely to be killed by her partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:57 PM
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I asked myself the same question when I was younger "Why would he pay for sex? He has women filtering with him!" well, I asked him once and he just told me he had "dry spells". The friend in question is attractive but not "chad-level", never had a lot of issues with dating, got rejected a few times back in college but that's all, he's in his 30s and engaged now. TBH his fiance is pretty progressive, she's chill with sex work, enjoying your sexuality, drugs and generally doing your own thing in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:47 PM
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Most women are put off by a man who seeks the services of a prostitute (either because they find he is objectifying/degrading women and/or he lacks the sexual prowess to obtain sex for free) This is the issue. I have friends who are married and spent their 20s dating a lot and they still have paid for sex. Women being "put off" by men who paid for sex doesn't make sense at all, they are "put off" by unattractive men who in ther mind, looks they'd need to pay for sex. It's a confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:48 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:43 PM
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Which is fine, if they were honest a lot of men would probably understand. The issue is the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:42 PM
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Yes, women settling and having relationships with men who they dislike due to social pressure is a common thing (https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-survey-says--women-are-less-happy-with-their-relationships-than-men-are-20150714-gibxpj.html), yes promiscous women exist, yes men approaching women is seen as negatively. Yes about 60% of people participate in casual sex (https://sexualalpha.com/hookup-culture-statistics/). No, casual sex isnt "more common than ever"(https://www.rutgers.edu/news/wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:52 PM
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Yeah, that's basically how it works, If you have the looks, status and small tight social groups it becomes easier. And even if you have issues in your relationships you'll hide it to "keep a facade". In a way, it's a privileged way to see relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:34 PM
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Bingo. Also hyperbole thinking is extremely common on the internet. The fact that women's physical attractiveness declines after 30 does not mean all women over 30 are automatically ugly. If you're not a high status man, it doesn't mean you'll never get to experience sex or relationships. And people on the other side do it all the time too. Not all women care only about personality, not all men are pigs who only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:33 PM
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I'm curious to figure out where the difference in our experiences I'm in my mid 30s, I know a social circle that was like that (my cousin's) and If I have to guess your circle is formed by religious people, attractive people, small-town people or a mix of all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:25 PM
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Sure. That starts at early childhood. Awesome, agree. How would you do that? (Im answering your question but I'm trying to take you to the path to see it, otherwise you won't understand it or ignore it)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:47 AM
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Prevention is better than punishment, would you agree? How about trying to find the rapists/murders before they rape or murder, won't that be better? You know how we can improve the chances of doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:39 AM
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Not all men are perpetrators. So firstly, there's a LOT of work to do with how society sees men. And don't tell me that old falacy of "well, men have the highest rate of violence, so is okey to fear them" because that's literally what concepts like racism and prejudice are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:33 AM
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Men's mental health is the issue. How to handle testosterone has a lot to do too. I don't know what can fix it, but you know what won't make it better? Create social programs for women while ignoring men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:21 AM
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Status usually comes with money, And money can buy: 1.- therapy 2.- Gym 3.- nutritionist 4.- Plastic surgery 5.- Hairplugs So, yeah I'd agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:17 AM
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When you ask a woman these types of questions, they'll answer what they think is the decent thing to say, not what they actually think. Flashback to a college friend who was your typical girl-power who think all men are pigs and we later found out she was fuckin a married guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:53 PM
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men are generally wayyyy lazier Holy shit this is what women actually believe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:51 PM
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As an unattractive AND boring man, I can confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:49 PM
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They both have symmetrical faces and normal-shaped facial features. They have similar fundation but everything built around it, is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:38 PM
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Plenty of studies have been done about attractiveness and its objectivenes: Facial simetry, sexual dimorphism, facial shape, etc. so no. Note OP is saying is more objective than people like to admit, not that is 100% objective, which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:32 PM
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Yes, there are men who put looks above eveything else. There are also women who care about height above a lot of things. Men aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:06 PM
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I'm a 33 yo who has never had a woman show any kind of interest on me. Defeatest mindset makes sense when you're older, if you're 21 and barely go out then I'd agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:56 PM
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lmao of course not, you're thinking on the top 10% men that have 90% of the casual sex. Believe it or not, the average man is looking for...checking notes an actual relationship and more than casual sex sigh imagine my shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:40 PM
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Because men aren't fan of paying for being rejected 100s of times. As a woman, you can't even imagine what is like to feel rejected insane amounts of times. Women don't understand most women don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:42 AM
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It's common when you're young. I believe most men are romantic when they're teenagers/kids but it kind gets kicked out of ous as we grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:20 AM
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For women is a "friend-husband" complex. I've seldom seen a female friend who would consider a friend as a boyfriend material, and the times that I've seen it happen it's because they felt somehow attracted to that man from the beginning. But once you're considered a friend it's kinda difficult to become a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:18 AM
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You can always improve your social skills through practice if you have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:07 AM
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Absolutely but if you don't have the looks, social skills wouldn't even matter because women won't swipe right on you. This is something a lot of women have such a hard time understanding. Good looks + no social skill = she gave you a shot, but you failed No looks + good social skills = social skills don't matter, you won't even get a chance to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:55 AM
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if you don't have the looks most woman don't really give you the time of the day to show your personality even thought t they don't really admit it. The reason why real life dating is slightly better that OLD is that by being stubborn and obstinate you can break that wall, this usually means risking making some women uncomfortable which is why men don't do it as much nowadays. I went to bars and a lot of social events when I was younger, dating apps are a pretty decent reflection of real life, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:34 PM
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Women are like a middle class person complaining that he can't buy a new car because he's already out of his budget, and he's going to have to use his older car which is constantly breaking down and is a pain in the ass or he has to take the public transport which is extremely incovenient. It may take him a few months to save up for a good car, or he can cancel his gym membership, eat ess, cancel his streaming services, stop buying so much clothes and shoes, or move out to a cheaper place but al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:19 PM
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Your way of seeing things may have something to do. When I was in college, I had an attractive friend whom I saw every now and then talking to female acquaintances. When he finished talking, he sometimes told me, "See? She was all over me." But to me, it looked like a normal interaction. I also remember a female friend who had a crush on my friend, and she sometimes flirted with him pretty obviously, but he didn't mention it at all. I feel like sometimes it's all in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:12 AM
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Well, then what do you want to debate? You don't want to believe that something that is statistically improbable is in fact, improbable, because it makes you feel more comfortable with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:34 PM
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Because tendencies exist and are decent predictors of behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:32 PM
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Attractivnes is not as subjective as women like to pretend. He's attractive and most people would find him attractive, that's why he played a lot of teenage romantic roles before TBBT, and even coming of age sexual movies like "The Opposite of Sex". Agree with you on the first part tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:42 AM
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We men have in general a difficult time accepting when other men are attractive, unless they're blatantly attractive. The dude is pretty attractive, no surprise your BF had an esay time with women. the only really ugly one in that show is howard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:32 AM
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I mean sure, but your comparation is bad, they aren't nowhere as common and annoying as the age gap ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:46 PM
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Can we ban age gap relationships threads? Look the stats, age gap dating is extremelye uncommon. It's a thing only the most succesful, attractive, and rich men do (i.e. Dicaprio), but women think all men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:09 PM
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Yeah, he's absolutely good looking, men who look like him have few issues dating women unless they have some neurodivergent issue. Why did you ask? did your former boyfriend have a lot of female friends? lmao jk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:17 PM
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No, you're aplying the logic women apply on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:07 PM
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No, men don't get scared away lol. Again, you're thinking like women think about virgin men. But it doesn't work like that the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:05 PM
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Oh definitely, a minority sure do, just like there are a minority of women who would prefer dating a virgin men over an experience one. But it's not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:03 PM
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Well, I guess you got really unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:58 PM
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I think the just-world fallacy that women have is that men that go passport bro route are not being picked by women because they have some sort of deffect, in reality when I google passports bro, I see mostly nice-looking men (with the occasional 'tate-bro' for sure, but they're not the norm and they're usually doing sex-tourism) that don't look super ugly or boring and just generally seem interesting and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:53 PM
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I mean, you're right, men aren't a monolith, I'm sure there's an minority of men who do care. I guess if it was one time thing it's realistic, it's just that if you had several guys doing that it starts to definitely sounds sketchy, men don't care if a woman is a virgin or not, there has been studies done about it and your experience is definitely an outlier, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:47 PM
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I'm sure you're telling the truth, random internet comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:33 PM
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Yeah I do. Some are happily married, some are single in.cel types, other are single womenizer types, it's really the same. Albeit the in.cel types are the ones who put waaay to much importance into it, all the others don't really care if she's a virgin or not, albeit her being a virgin is nicer, but ultimately if they find her attractive and she's into them, it literally doesn't matter. Majority of men don't judge women for being virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:31 PM
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Because it's a lie. Literally no guy cares if a girl is virgin if he finds her hot, actually the fact that you're the first man, makes her way more attractive (Why do you think in.cels want virgin women?). No man thinks there's something wrong because a woman is a virgin, quite the opposite actually. That comment was written by a woman who believe men think like women (women are the ones who don't like virgin men).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:35 PM
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Right, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:33 PM
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Agree. The fact that kids/teenagers shouldn't have sex only comes to light when it's a age gap issue ("She's 19 and he's 40, her brain is still not fully developed!") but we ignore all other situations ("She's 19, it's her decision if she wants to sleep with every person she finds attractive, she's living her sexuality :)"). Plus STDs are a pandemic and a healthcare issue. Teach how to use condons and all other contraceptives, for sure, but make emphasis on not sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:30 PM
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And there's nothing wrong with it, it's the women who don't admit it what's annoying. Thank god that's changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:26 PM
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My last BF looked more like Leonard from the Big Bang Not "a chad" by women's standards lol jk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:23 PM
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Women are the same, unless they find you attractive, you're basically the one carrying the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:05 AM
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I'm sorry, but just like men have the right to not being attracted to a woman with promiscuous past, women can do the same for men. It's a two-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:00 AM
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How so? The average/ugly dude is also taking ANY woman who shows attention. In the real world? No, men have standards, usually lower than women's but we do. Do you think attractive men are unhappy when any women pay attention to them? They are also taking "whatever". No? They're enjoying it, but it happens so often it's not a big deal for them. Women in general are "whatever" for men. It's just "whoever gives me what I want" , regardless of whether they are attractive or not. Men are all the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:06 PM
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No, the men that take the "whatever" are the most attractive mostly. The average/ugly dude is happy when a women pays attention to him, we don't treat a women who is attracted to us like a "whatever", which funny enough a lot of women don't like that. Your reaction is common in women because women tend to only date/sleep with the most attractive men thus creating resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:27 PM
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Oh sister, if dating was like that for men, this place wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:20 PM
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Women are the "whatever" more often than not, it's just that the men that take the "whatever" are attractive so the women don't care. Source: have super attractive male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:18 PM
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Not good. Men's mental health is in the toilet but most people don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:16 PM
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I'm glad more and more women are honest about how superficial their genre can be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:26 PM
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Most women have casual sex because they have self steem issues. If you're a man and have self steem issues, women will runaway from you The men who are promiscous are because of the opposite: They have great social skills, good looking, feel good with themselves, etc... It comes down to how easier sex is for women that it is for men. Having said that, women too are 100% in their right to turn down a man because he had a promiscous past... the catch is that men with promiscous pasts tend to be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:23 PM
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Oh yeah, women, just like men, suck at judging character, when they "feel a click with a man" usually means they find him physically attractive and was fun to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:20 PM
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If you're an adult and don't cook and clean, that's a red flag regardles of the genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:40 PM
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Yeah but I'd argue is not only mens fault. Men used to approach women in bars, workplace, schools, etc.. and it was fine, nowadays a lot of women have made it clear they do not want to be approached, some men have believed that and they have stopped approaching to avoid problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:33 PM
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Oh god yes🥵. Also before people call me superficial for that last point, I myself am a gym rat and am into fashion, so I'll hope my SO would be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:18 PM
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That's women's choice. Nobody is forcing you to have casual sex. But yeah, casual sex is awful for women but if you say that you'll anger some people!.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:09 PM
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If there are lots of single men, wouldn't there be lots of single women? Unless lots of women are dating the same man? Partially yes I've always find funny women not getting the concept that women would date the same attractive men all the time. Also more men commit suicide than women, men died younger, etc... It's not like theres exactly 1 women per 1 men in the world, there's usually more men than women depending on the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:06 PM
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More men are single than women in our younger years, it's after about 50-60 years when that flips iirc. Loneliess is a problem that affects young men more. Don't know why so many people has so much issue accepting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:06 PM
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I mean there probably are? there are 3.6 billion women, also beauty is subjective. Also most people are looking for more than physical attraction. I'm 99% sure you're trolling but I bite anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:04 PM
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Women aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:35 AM
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Yeah but you're making that belief based on an assumption, you think every guy who goes overseas is looking for that, when in reality a lot of women have high standards like you do, ignoring a lot of men. The truth is that there are a lot of men who aren't the best looking, don't have the best social skills, don't have the best sense of humor, don't have a lot of money, etc... who are growing up in places where the women have such high standards. The biggest falacy women believe is that men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:08 AM
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You do you and hope you're having fun, but you're definitely an outlier when it comes to women's choices with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:57 PM
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And you know what's so funny about it? It's a way to "put women on pedestal" and most people are okey with it lmao. No, a lot of women are attracted to men who are physicial attractive, a lot of women just want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:37 AM
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Absolutely. But that's when our personal opinions differ. I believe minorities should have strong social support and awareness in society and not just "do it themselves". Which of course they should, but if you don't have social support from other people you can only get so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:31 AM
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Some do, but the resources and social support that men have are very limited, focusing in developing those skills can be pretty lonely by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:29 AM
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Men loneliness epidemic are about men's mental health. Modern men also aren't taught self-love and self-steem as much as modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:46 PM
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It's a (growing) minority of men who are being affected that's for sure. But modern trends are about helping minorities. At least some minorities, the minorities that are ok to help according to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:42 PM
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yeah just read other comments and you didn't writte it as a joke, guess was just a freudian slip lol which makes it funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:24 PM
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Yes, they tend to act really nice around women. this is the root of the problem I believe of why women think a "nice" guy will get laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:05 PM
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lmao so many people missing the joke
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:03 PM
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That's because it goes against women just-world fallacy of "If you're nice women will like you teehe, if you're mysoginist you'll end up alone :(!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:02 PM
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Weird guys usually go away if you ignore them/politely reject them, That's real life. Usually women don't pepper spray you if you ask them out, and usually men won't kill you if you tell them no. People online seem to focus on the negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:28 AM
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Oh, of course. But people reducing entire self worth to a few pixels it's something all genres do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:23 AM
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Can't disagree, but most women IRL don't really like to admit what they are truly attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:13 PM
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People* Women swipe like 1 in a 100 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:09 PM
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/r/science does it and is fine. It's totally doable. But It definitely won't be the best for this place, as it would end up being banned most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:07 PM
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That's exactly what a lot of women think. No Joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:51 AM
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A bunch of things would be debunked: Women not caring about looks, mysoginistic men not being succesful with women, women having it more difficult with sex and relationship than men, etc... There won't be much of a discussion if personal experiences were not allowed, but I feel the subreddit would end up closing or banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:42 AM
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I'll be so happy if personal experiences were just banned and discussion was based in scientific studies. I don't think it will ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:37 PM
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Just because women aren't criminal doesn't mean they are good people lmao, what's wrong with you? You can be manipulative, cheater, gashlighter, psycho, narcissist, etc.. without being a criminal. A bit of self improvement would easily fix that, hardly women's fault that men are so lazy and selfish. Obviously you don't have any idea of what you're talking about, you can improve as a man and your pool won't increase that much, the women who would date you is still small If you're unattractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:10 AM
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Oh no you see, men who put the effort and don't success will fall into a different just-world falacy created by women, either: He isn't trying hard enough Or He's trying too hard! Women can sense he's desperate!.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:14 PM
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Women feel more lonely than men. That's true. Women also feel they do worse at dating and feel they aren't listend to in society and feel socitiety doesn't help women enough. Women are better at expressing their feelings than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:08 PM
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Literally first result in google. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/4285142/Women-get-more-pleasure-in-bed-from-wealthy-men.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:56 AM
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In mexico (don't know if is the same for the rest of latinamerica) women make fun of men who are really into soccer by calling them "FIFAs", this also comes with the idea that those men are mysoginistic simply because soccer is enjoyed mostly by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:41 PM
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Wasn't there a study that said same-sex relationships suffer from higher levels of violence than straight relationships including women-women relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:00 PM
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With money you can Get facial surgery Get that surgery that makes you taller Get medical help for any issue you may have (social anxiety, autism, etc..) Pay the gym and a nutritionist Pay therapy to improve your self-steem Buy good quality clothes Buy hair implants Take classes to improve your speech So yes. If this was true then you'd think the most powerful people in the world like billionaires would have the most beautiful women Because most men aren't as superficial as most women like to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:50 PM
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Used to spend 40 hours a week with female friends when I worked in interior design before switching to software dev. He said the more exposed you are to your friend the deeper the connection will get. I mean sometimes yes. Isn't that what most women say about men too? "I thought he was unattractive when I first meet him, but his personality was what attracted me to him". The more time you spend together the easier is to "catch" feelings I supose. However is not like you avoid to hang out with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:36 PM
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Just like all the ideas from the red pill it's an hyperbole of real life fact. It comes from the idea that men find younger women more attractive, which it's sorta true, but believe it or not, usually looks aren't everything to men either. In real life, if you're a 30 yo women who look like Margot Robbie or just a decent women who is mentally stable, chances are you're not going to suffer from the "wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:58 PM
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Social networks are absolutely changing the mind of the younger generations. It's going to be really interesting what's going to happen in the next decades when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:41 PM
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Yes, and do you think every guy who finds difficult to have a girlfriend is a school-shooter in.cel creep tate-bro guy? Apps are absolutely showing an hyperbole of what actually exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:37 PM
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To add to this, you know how you probably know a decent good girl who somehow ends up dating a complete douchebag? It also happens a lot the other way around, decent men dating complete psychos. So, yeah people are terrible in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:36 PM
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To add this, as a 30 year old men, the amount of women who appear to be in "good/functioning/normal in good relationships" only to later found out they were in actually abusive relationships/cheaters/pretending to have a good life for the likes, it's really high. A lot of men who date "good" women are really dating dysfunctional crappy women, but you won't know it in your 20s usually, they hide it really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:34 PM
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It's weird to see this coming from a woman in this place but yeah, most men are dysfunctional but most women are too. The thing is, being "dysfunctional" is a bigger handicap if you're a man than if you're a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:30 PM
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There simply aren't enough decent women to go around. Same thing for women, there aren't enough decent women around. Now picture this: As a men, your selection pool is smaller because most women ignore you. It's absolutely worse, when it comes to your selection pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:57 AM
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Because most men are getting dates with women who are settling. Read his comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:49 AM
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More important than women admit it is, not as important as redpillers think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:47 AM
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In current generations there's a lot of akwardness in all sexes an genres, but it affects men disproportionally more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:42 AM
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Most men aren't womenizers that are sleeping around with a different women each day, that's only a minority of men. Of course most men have some level of anxiety when it comes to sex and women's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:25 AM
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Women are more often killed by husbands than by strangers, I mean, this is the only one that doesn't make sense, I'm sure most homicide victims are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:24 AM
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yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:19 AM
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Yes it does, but there's no point on keep arguing honestly, I've seen it before her just people yelling "no" or "yeah" and that's basically their input.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:19 AM
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For some men yeah, just like some women won't date short men. It's like men aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:17 AM
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General Social Survey has shown sexlessness has being going up in the last decades. Sure in 2022 there was an decrease (probably somehow related to covid) but the trend is definitely up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/ Most likely covid had something to do in 21-22 (or should i say the lockdowns). But let's wait for a couple more years to see if the trend changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:15 AM
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Can you share "all the sources"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:27 PM
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"It's women's fault that men..." Is almost always considered a bad argument. Yes, modern generations (both male and female) are developing twisted ideas of relationships and dating, but that's regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:24 PM
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Reasons don't matter. If you cheat you're an awful person regardles of gender of sex, in both cases, male or female, you need to work on your mental health. But yeah, the point that OP is talking about is dumb. Nobody should have the right to cheat, unless their partner is ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:19 PM
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if your answer is that they don’t experience the same human condition of loneliness—then I couldn’t give less of a fuck about what you’re talking about tbh. They don't. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about what you’re talking about tbh Same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:17 PM
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I guess it comes from an emotional place. But awarenes it's in my opinion, what we should stride for, it eventually generates empathy either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:14 PM
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Awareness in any social issue only yells positive results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:46 AM
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That's really interesting, altough really that's the only source that says the opposite of what most studies show. But I won't discard it, I'll just pay attention in the future for more studies with similar results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:44 AM
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15-years gap is still incredible uncommon, something like less than 10% of men iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:39 AM
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You know what? You're right. Violence against women is an accepted and talked-about topic in society, and I agree with that. This is not a zero-sum game, both sexes can have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:38 AM
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Oh god, the age gap should really a banned topic in here just like physicial appereance or body count. Yes, the amount of 50 yo millionares dating 20 yo models are in fact, a extreme minority of men and a statistical anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:42 PM
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Would it be fair to say that men having way more difficult than ever in relationships is not an issue that you think is that important in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:40 PM
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If I may ask, any reason why aren't you personally seeking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:29 PM
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1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner. Again, you're right, but again, is not like men don't run the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:21 PM
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Why do you believe society should not aknowledge the struggles of a minority social group?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:19 PM
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Few things: 1) Yes, but my point is a lot of men end up in abusive relationships too, women often ignore we run that risk too. 2) Those men had to go throught a lot more rejection than most women. 3) The number of men who don't have sex or relationships have been steadily increasing in the last years at a faster rate than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:18 PM
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There's a thread talking about this, the best answer imho: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17w54dq/q4men_why_is_it_important_that_people_agree_that/k9fo1q6/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:59 PM
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1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. (https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS) So while you're absolutely right, is not uncommon for men either, and I remember reading female-to-male abuse has been on the rise on the last decade but can't find the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:54 PM
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Women often ignore that a lot of women are also abusive/toxic/mentally unstable, and they don't realize most men are lucky enough to get the attention of 1 women, the chances of that women falling in those categories is not small.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:47 PM
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Why is it important that people agree women get sexually abused and that is an issue? (You may apply that question to any other social issue if you don't feel confortable talking about sexual abuse.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:33 PM
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They aren't but reddit has a huge women-are-wonderful effect thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:00 AM
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So, the red pill? That's a pretty popular idea, nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:58 AM
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If you're extremely physicially attractive and extroverted it's a breeze. 90% of men aren't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:55 AM
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Would you say we have to agree women get sexualy abused more often than men? Or would you be confortable with your partner telling you "lol, thats crazy, that never happens"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:52 AM
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And you're simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:47 AM
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It's not an opinion. And I think it's a good start to help men. But I can see you're not willing to talk about this and whatever I said will end up with you calling me names so, goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:44 AM
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It's not the cause, but yeah that's how it works in average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:43 AM
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Everything you said is way more complicated for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:42 PM
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Yeah bro, what I meant to say is not that IRL don't work, just that OLD it's a good reflection of how dating and relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:51 PM
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To get a solution? No, "anything" won't help. That's like saying anything will help solve racism or poverty. If you want to tackle the issue you need to study it and really understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:33 PM
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I don't know, we need sociologist, psychologist, politicians backed up by governments and universities to study this issue more in deep. But won't happen as long as people call "incels" or disregard any person who wants to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:24 PM
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Yep, awareness is the first step to tackle any social issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:21 PM
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Bingo. If you're attractive it doesn't matter if you're boring, manipulating, poor, etc... you'll find women are ok with dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:17 PM
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That's just being a decent person. Nothing to do with gender/sex/race, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:11 PM
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Ya'll need to socialize and get some female friends, you'll learn women reject 90% of men who approach them in any environment: dating apps, bars, work, school, etc... The only reason why "traditional dating" works is because there are more women, so you'll need to go over more rejection but you have greater chance of meeting somebody. I never said traditional dating doesn't work, is just that OLD it's a good reflection of what women want even in traditional dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:02 PM
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Mentioning that the average man probably, maybe, you know, just maybe have it more difficult than the average women in dating and relationships will immedialty unleash the fury of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:00 PM
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Somebody: Here are some observations I've seen of other people and my personal experience, what's your opinion? Reddit: LMAO You fuckin murderer incel
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:57 PM
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Dating apps are absolutely a reflection of real life. Most women don't realize a guy who has 0 matches in apps, will hardly have women interested on him of he goes to bars. It's just another "just world" falacy in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:56 PM
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There's no win with these type of people man. Not trying enough? It's your fault, you have to try more!. Are you trying and still failing? You're too desperate, stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:53 PM
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Fair enough. What I mean is men who: Have decent social skills Have good job / being a good student May have one or two hobbies Are well educated The kind of people who are just "down to earth"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:38 AM
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You say it’s not important to most men, but statistically most men get with women in their socio-economic class, and rich men are not getting with cashiers. It's a hyerbole obviously. Most men don't care if the woman is the breadwinner, while a good chunk of women do care. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-women-say-they-wont-date-a-man-over-this-one-financial-issue-2017-04-07 The idea of men being the provider is a patriarchal idea still alive today. Roughly seven-in-ten adults (71%) say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:07 AM
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And men with status often want a classy beautiful woman to “show off” which is about the woman’s status. Yeah, not financially, that's not really important for most men. I'd say social status linked to income is absolutely a patriarchal ideology, that's why so many women claim "they don't need a man" or "I can take care of myself" nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:51 AM
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considering both genders care Is not as important for men as it is for women. A male "good earner" could date a female cashier. Not the same the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:37 AM
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Yeah but statistically there's going to be less attractive girls feeling like 1s. Also statistically, there are way less 8 girls that 4 women. So is easier to get a 4 women than a 8 women, simply because there are way more unattractive people than attractive people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:27 AM
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lmao yeah basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:23 AM
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And the average women could feel like a 1 one day. It's way easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:11 PM
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Yes, closest thing is probably the love most people have for their parents/siblings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:10 PM
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Because despite what current trends tell you about "women like sex too", the true is men in average have a waaay higher libido that women, that's how always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:04 PM
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And you'd be (rightfuly) shunned if you mention that in the real world. Not the same if you say is men's fault if a women can't find a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:58 PM
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What he means is being a good man is irrelevant to attract women, an idea most women don't like to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:51 PM
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Yeah, but as a society most people don't really like accept the second one. "All men are pigs" is more accepted than "Women care about the face"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:50 PM
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no. 1 is true but is not focused on the correct idea. "Looks" is basically your face, not "clealiness/grooming". Remember all the women who were dating men who "didn't clean their ass cause is gay"?. It's well stablished being "dirty" is not as important to get a relationship, what's more important is how good your face look. It's not everything , which is where I disagree with in.cels, but matters more than most women like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:42 PM
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Women can't find a good men => men's fault Men can't find a good women => mens' fault The true is, in today's world, decent people that you'd want as a partner, from all gender and sexes, are not as common as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:03 PM
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Yeah, I'm a decent programmer but luck was a huge factor on finding my current remote job specially in today's work environment. It's really the same for relationships and basically everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:01 PM
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I understand people not taking this issue seriosuly, but i'ts really just begining. Most people won't see the issues this is creating in at least another 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:58 PM
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I understand people make fun of this issue, but i'ts really just begining. Most people won't see the issues this is creating in at least another 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:57 PM
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Not really, a lot of women somehow think if you can't get into a relationship as a man is because you're a loser/douchebag/sexist and they constantly make fun of in.cels and the like. When in true the most violent/sexist men usually don't have issues finding girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:52 PM
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I just shared a study that commented exactly on how women contradict their stated preferences, which was my exact original comment: More often that none, what women say they want is not the same they actually date. I guess I didn't explain myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:33 PM
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gen-z are doint it less and less, it's pretty obvious that trend will continue eventually https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-03/young-adults-less-sex-gen-z-millennials-generations-parents-grandparents
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:23 PM
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I only know one couple like that and on the surface they look ok but because I'm close to them I know them more personally and she's quite manipulative emotionally. Didn't help that the dude was your typical in.cel when he was younger so he thinks he'll end up alone if they ever break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:23 PM
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I mean I don't kow what to say, there are plenty studies that show gen z's are having less sex and less dating. Use google, here's just one: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-03/young-adults-less-sex-gen-z-millennials-generations-parents-grandparents
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:21 PM
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The assumption women make is that men are choosing not to date, you'll never understand it because you're not a man, but basically a lot of men are invisible to women. Yes, even to single moms and fat women. But even if that's the case, which it isn't, but want to understand your logic, why would a man should settle for a women who doesn't make him happy? Should a woman date a man who doesn't make her happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:35 PM
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Most people in here don't realize dating and sex is changing for gen-z and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:27 PM
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Because traditional men are what most women look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:25 PM
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Yeah, just look at the suicide numbers. It's crazy that people still doesn't understand the percentage of men who are suffering nowadays is increasing with each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:23 PM
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Oh you want data? No problem. When considering a potential long-term mate for daughters, both women and their parents state that a potential partner's ambition and intelligence are more important than physical attractiveness.However, both women and their parents make mate choices that contradict their stated preferences, favoring a physically attractive partner for daughters over an ambitious and intelligent partner. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-58248-001 Also, it's experience that comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:19 PM
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How much variety do you think there is in terms of who we consider attractive? Not as much as people like to pretend. We live in a "inclusive" society, the current trends aim at not leaving people "outside" of life experiences. The true is that there are objectively bad looks, there has been tons of studies that show people are more attracted to even faces, for example, overweight people are in average considered less attractive. There's a reason why Margot Robbie or Henry cavill are almost univ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:27 AM
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Because women like to pretend if a man can't get into a relationship he's automatically a weirdo/loser/creep. Relationships and dating is seen as a reward to men by so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:20 AM
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I know, but what women say they like and the men they date are two different type of men. That's why my 6'2 tate-fan gym bro has absolutely no issues getting in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:42 PM
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I'm not even american, I had a coworker who used that word all the time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:36 PM
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Yeah, looks are important to women too. But most women don't really like to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:33 PM
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Physical appereance is the first thing people notice, women and men, it's a complicated thing because looks are not everything but not being good looking it is everything. From that, it goes: personality, chemistry, interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:29 PM
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People definitely overestimate social abilities and ignore other things like physicial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:27 PM
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Yes, I have a normal grooming/self-care routine. I understand this is pandering the silly just-world falacy that a lot of women have of "you can't get a women interested on you because you don't shower", but that's actually not the reality. I'd expect for her to (I do all of these things obviously): Not being fat Shower once a day They can shave armpits if they want Limit shampoo use because I'm /r/nopoo, hair wax or similar products is a must. Basic skincare, moisturizing lotion and that's it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:20 PM
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No, but there are clear tendencies to what people find attractive, and it's usually the same thing overall with slight variations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:15 PM
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Can you please explain why is "spining" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:15 PM
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Oh yeah absolutely. But my point is women do initialize all the time, if you're good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:14 PM
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I mean plenty of studies have been done about it, but people have a hard time to admiting it, so you disagreeing is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:36 AM
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Tinder/dating apps only works for a small % of men including men who want serious relationships or casual sex. Not all men who use tinder/dating apps are looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:35 AM
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It's more of a spectrum. If you're attractive plenty of people will find you attractive, if you're ugly plenty of people will find you ugly. There's a reason why most peolpe find Margot Robbie or Chris Hemsworth attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:23 AM
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Statistics and a lot of studies done in the last years in dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:14 AM
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Yes, tinder only works for a small % of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:13 AM
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Oh yes, a small vocal portion of men do. Some women are golddiggers, are only interested in men who are 6' or taller or are just plain toxic. If you generalize that idea to "all women" you get (rightfully) called an incel, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:48 PM
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Just know that after thinking about it I agree with your original comment. Minus the "significant" part, it would be a lot smaller part than you think, but I agree on the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:42 PM
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Fine with that, there are toxic masculinity and toxic femininity. The issue is when people only accept one, or when they somehow twist things and say toxic toxic femininity is just a type of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:33 PM
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Men who sleep around are a small demography of men, but women tend to generalize this behaviour, is one sexist ideology that is widely accepted today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:31 PM
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The men who sleep around don't need a pill to lower their testosterone to avoid having sex drive, they are sleeping around cause they are attractive. Then men who would take this pill will be an entirely different demography of men. Shit, I guess you're right. The men who look like Chris Hemsworth would never take it, they won't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:29 PM
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It may help men but will eventually mess with dating. Most women don't realize there are men who, if they just "focus on themselves" and don't proactively look for a date they will never end up in a relationship, this pill will make a lot of men to end up single, while leaving women to the more desired men who are more prone to cheat because they are desired by tons of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:26 PM
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Because they have sex drive. This would remove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:24 PM
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Absolutely. Biggest one for me is women thinking men who cant find a date it's because they are terrible people (i.e. If you aren't succesful at tinder, is because your profile suck) while not realizing women are the same except they're not affected due to men's desperation (Women suck at writing interesting profiles at dating apps too)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:15 PM
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I know, that's why I said things have change heavily in the last decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:43 PM
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Oh. I see, I've had these type of conversation with alt right racist people before, so don't want to continue this discussion further, it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:39 PM
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If you talk about personal experience is not really representative of the situation. I went back to college last year and my experience has been different than yours: Most of my male acquaintances are single or struggling to date while most of my female acquaintances are in relationships, ages ranging 17 to 25-28. Leaving experience aside, check the numbers and statistics: Yes, most people are able to date, the thing is that "most" is slowly getting smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:03 AM
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No offense but in 11 years A LOT has changed. I believe most people who aren't dating in the currently usually would have a outdated view of how things work. Mostly how social skills have been deteriorating so much in the last few years specially during COVID.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:05 AM
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It's because the man is physicially attractive, I remember a study that mentioned women are more prone to ignore toxic behaviours the more attractive the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:58 AM
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Men who can't get into relationships, specially gen-z and younger are not always "dull teetotalling abnormal men" that's the just-cause falacy women believe The idea that the government should create these places is wrong, Japan has done it, can't find the video but they basically have "meeting bars" sponsored by the goverment but most people simply don't go, IIRC women tend to go more than men to these places, can't find the video but if somebody knows what I'm talking about please share the li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:56 AM
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I think that kind of mentality is damaging also and saying "makes more sense" it's really normalizing it more. Change "man" with a race (like so many people do) and you'll understand why is dangerous too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:45 AM
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I think the psychological effects of social networks are not yet fully known, that's going to happen in the next decade or so and it's going to be scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:42 AM
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Reddit is huge, is one of the most visited sites in the world, if you bothered to report any of those messages it would get deleted ASAP. The same won't happen if is a hate message directed towards man, that's his point (He literally messaged the mods and got a "not our problem" reply)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:39 AM
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They tried reversing with men and only 1 or 2 women said yes out of 100. what the f, was that men Henry Cavill? Lucky sob.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:54 PM
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Asking a girl out getting rejected Asking a girl out getting rejected Asking a girl out getting rejected Asking a girl out getting rejected the mental toll of this is largely ignored by society. And this is just the beginning, at that point a man hasn't even started with whay you're mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:52 PM
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Oh yeah, you shouldnt feel bad for him, God knows I don't feel bad for somebody like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:39 PM
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Women profiles are just as terrible, however this does not affect women abilities to get relatonships/sex because women have the date/sex scene much more easy than men. If you have female friends at some point you probably heard this and had them "redo your profile", this however did not change things at all and they just act surprised and ignore the issue. Been there, done that. I know this is a controversial take but you usually don't want to listen to women's advice when looking to date, is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:37 PM
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Do you know how women claim all the time that they "started dating a nice guy but eventually turned it out he was a dick?". Women do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:34 PM
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No, I've seen girls literally asking "hi, do you want my number?" to my attractive friends back in college. Granted, happened like once or twice but women definitely make the first move if you're chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:26 PM
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Whatever sexist idea you have is irrelevant to what he's saying, women get easier access to sex compared to men, that's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:24 PM
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Even if you are a total jock, chad thundercock, you still have to make the first move and not be a wuss. This is just the truth. Ya'll don't socialize much do you? If you ever had these types of friends, you'll learn women initialize all the time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:16 PM
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He's talking about access to sex, which he's right. Sex isn't intimacy you're right. Most women and men want intimacy above just sex. Your point doesn't unvalidate his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:14 PM
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Absolutely. There's always going to be a losing side. We agree women have been on the losing side in the past, but we have a incredible hard time admitting that men are now on the short side of the stick. I believe once we can accept that as a society we will move forward to a way to fix this issue in a way that benefits all. Unfortunately, I think we're very far from that. Funny thing is that I also think things will go back to women being on the losing side: A lot of men will end up leaving th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:04 PM
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The question is "What is the main reason men are single 2023" which is why I reply that, it's what is happening currently. If you want to analyze the why that's more complicated, but mostly you have to understand dating/sex isn't fair like most things in life, It doesn't reward the good people nor punishes the bad people. Not all men want to have "sex with women". A lot of men are pretty monogamous, the ones who are having tons of sex with a lot of women are the most attractive/powerful men, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:26 PM
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Shitty people exist, some of them are women. Reddit has a "women are wonderful" effect. Women are three times more likely than men to experience mental health problems, this type of behaviour isn't THAT weird (it is uncommon for sure but not that uncommon) from women if you're a unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:14 PM
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Just for clarification, i believe that a 5'4 ogre with the best personality on the planet will still be invisible, thats where i still agree. You have to have a Looks base. Fair enough but you still overestimate how much personality actually matters 6/10 above average dude, with a great charismatic exroverted Personality, against a 6'5 Model with a average dryish personality, Dude 1 can EASILY go toe to toe with the model dude in terms off sexual success. This is simply not true, if you ver had …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:06 PM
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Yes, most men would like to have a real relationship with a real women. Nobody argues that. Most women don't understand the amount of men who aren't getting that is slowly increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:13 PM
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A mix of things that will undoubtedly piss both sides: Social skills are getting worse for everybody, men and women alike, but it affects men more. The sexual liberation of women. It's becoming more accepted for women to have superficial standards, this leaves the majority of men outside the dating pool for a lot of women simply because most men are unattractive to most women. Dating apps and social media in general. Social narrative for women about "how is ok to be single" while for men is "if …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:04 PM
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This is a pretty obvious bait, don't know how hasnt been deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:13 PM
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Same thing with women. Actually they are even worse. Had a female friend who had a blurry pic she took at the office. Still had tons of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:12 PM
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Because it's absolutely awful to reduce a complex human relationship with another person with a job, it's the same as guys who wants a girl with a big ass. But you're free to do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:02 PM
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fwiw the "friend zone" is actually the "I'm not attracted to you but don't want to hurt you either so I'd just say we can be friends" zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 10:10 PM
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Aaaand we're there. Don't know why it so hard to accept how easier it is for women. I said easier not easy. Dating isn't easy yeah obviously. but It's relatively easier for women than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 10:01 PM
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Absolutely. My point is plenty of women have terrible social skills too but they have it easier compared to men. Dating and sex is harder for men than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:53 PM
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Social skills have taken huge damage thanks to things like social networks, the Internet, and more recently, COVID. The thing is, it affects more men than women; most women with bad social skills who don't proactively act to find a partner eventually will be asked out by a man. Men who don't proactively act are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:46 PM
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it's not a 1-to-1 relationship in sex. That's why there's so many single mothers, that's why some men have so many kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:43 PM
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No, I've noticed it too. The "ugly guy dating a hot girl" trope has beeen slowly reversed the last decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:28 PM
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but that's what most men here say... only thing that matters is how good looking you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:50 PM
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Feel fre to PM if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:31 PM
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I go to the gym, at 33 I went back to college and I also started takin art classes.It has really brought me closer to the the reality of the current dating world. Most women I've meet are in relationships, most men are single. It's absolutely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:13 AM
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Because most people including women are not happy single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:11 AM
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Oh my bad. Just saying he doesn't have issues getting serious relationships with successful women, like I said he's currently dating a wealthy physician. Personality is not as important as women say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:07 AM
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Yep. He's on the juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:06 AM
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TBF my gym bro its pretty dedicated and obviously shredded, he's the reason why I started lifting. Only bad thing is that he only talks about sex, partying, videogames (which is why we are friends) and trying to get rich (He's Loves Andrew Tate and he's always talking about creating your own business and being rich).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:01 PM
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No, he has dated seriously a few times, he lasted 4-5-ish years with the last serious gf, so it's not like women only want him to fuck, although some definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:57 PM
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thanks for the heads up, I'll delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:56 PM
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Mostly well stablished. My gym bro is dating a Physician, he's also dated nurses, architects and college students form wealthy families.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:13 PM
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lmao this dude, no I won't violate his privacy. But his body is similar to Jeff Nippard and his face I guess it kinda looks like Mario Lopez
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:11 PM
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This type of situations are the biggest proof physicial appereance is the single most important thing for a lot of women, but there are some women who will deny it. My gym bro is a Tate and Joe Rogan fan, but his personality doesn't really matter for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:06 PM
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No, they are average guys with funny personalities who are really nice and in touch with their feelings. jk of course they are chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:08 PM
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May be ane exaggeration but who knows, I've know him for 7 years now and he's sleeps with at least 2 different girls each month. I've seen his messages /pics. Also its a really small gym, I stopped going there because the machines weren't enough, they only had 1 bench press and like 4 bikes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:06 PM
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Best friend from college who is really attractive is single again, share me a screenshoot of his tinder profile and it had 11 different matches. 1 week after he left his girlfriend he was sleeping with another women, he's 33, and last girl he took to his bedroom was 24. Another friend gym bro, has had girls literally message him "I really like you, you're hot", he basically has slept with half of the girls in the gym, he's also 33. Fun fact I didn't know how common it is for women to approach me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:10 PM
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Definitely most people critizing sex work don't understand how it works. That's fine, but they tend to be wrong in some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:07 PM
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Yeah, internet, social networks and dating apps have really shifted the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:06 PM
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Oh yeah absolutely, you're 100% free of choosing if you want a partner with high n-count, regardles of your sex, gender and overall preferences. It's just that is more important for men than it is for women. You said it yourself, a man with high n-count "has a lot of qualities". A women with a high n-count does not. Getting laid for women is the easiest thing in the world. Getting laid for men requires a LOT of "qualities".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:44 AM
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Did it. AMA. Define normal. I have a +100k year job, an apartment, a loving family, (very few but loving) friends, and actually getting more comfortable with my lack of success with women. Went back to college for a second degree and I've been witness of how much worse is for younger men nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:39 AM
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Just want to say, sometimes there's really nothing "wrong" with ya'll. That's just the just-world falacy women loves so much. Or at least "wrong" in the sense of being a good person. Sometimes wrong for women just means "broke or boring", but that doesn't mean there's something wrong with your persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:33 AM
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Basically why men who have high number of sex partners are seen as a good thing by a lot of women. That's why women don't understand why for men, a women with high number of sex parterns is a negative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:31 AM
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Sadly, Definitely will grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:25 AM
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Probably a small irrelevant chunk of men were sayign that. Almost no man in manospheres cares about having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:24 AM
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If you were familiar with the manosphere a few years ago, you would often hear "threats" of men going their own way, of living independently of women and using artificial wombs to reproduce. Really? Never meet a guy who thinks reproduction is so important they'll use artificial wombs, I've actually heard that "artificial reproduction" argument coming from women.I couldn't give a fuck about having kids in this fucked up world, actually I have some friends who have the vasectomy. I'm guessing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:12 AM
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Yes, the only difference between womanizers and an incel is that the womanizer has good social skills and is good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:04 AM
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Like some people already mentioned, a lot of men are annoyed by women dishonesty. Once we live in a society where women can openly admit they do care about looks heavily (which is slowly happening) I believe a lot of men will change the way they act.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:43 PM
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Not as high as some men believe but not as low as some women believe either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:05 AM
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Agree with you, but there's definitely a change that is happening faster that we can study it. What I mean is in 20 years if we do the same study the name of married men would be way lower. His 40% may be a slight overraction but also probably focused on a different sample than those studies (young men and teenagers)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:50 AM
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So, how is that the mods allow this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:48 AM
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Not to mention women do most of those things too, a lot of women are controlling too, but we mostly focus on men doing it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:46 AM
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That's in part why it gets easier for men. You can be 30 and date girls in their 20s. Bigger pool. Usually not the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:40 AM
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Yes, there's always the "I'm attracted to men because they are nice at first". Most of my womanizer friends are straigh assholes from the begining and women still date them. And yes, now you'll say how "not all women are like that, those women don't have self steem". All the women my womanizer friends date are succesful, healthy mentally and overall nice people, they still date my friends and they are still shocked when they cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:35 AM
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Point 2 escapes so many women. Apparently women are attracted to "personalities" yet all of them have dated assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:18 AM
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onlyfans girls ≠ escorts which is what I assume OP is talking about since you cannot "visit" a onlyfans girl, they different. I'd agree with you on that part if we're talking about "onlyfans" girls, but escorts are defnitely more frowned upon by women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:17 PM
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More women are graduating university than men, so they tend to be better off. They also make more money than men in that age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:08 PM
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Plenty of studies have show people in relationships are happier than single people. However, this idea isn't popular nowadays. We're witnessing a decline in relationships, whether you're a woman whose boyfriend asked her to cook food and now you're contemplating breaking up with him because he's being perceived as "sexist," or you're a man who just learned that his girlfriend has slept with 3 men and you think she's a "whore". Future generations are going to be so fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:53 PM
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50 bucks is definitely on the low tear even in third world countries, I'm from México and a 50 dollars girl is a no-no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:46 PM
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I can see that, that's why I said it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:44 PM
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Yes. I use sugar babies apps (won't name then, reddit is strict about it) so they're doing it cause of their own free will. There's nothing wrong with paying for sex, most people, mostly women think you're some freaky weirdo creep because you pay for sex, I've meet attractive rich men who pay for sex, always wondered why, if I were attractive and rich I wouldn't be paying for sex. Altough again, maybe they have the personality of a cardboard box. Also, word of advice of you're on the fence about…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:07 PM
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They would love you at /r/sexworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:02 PM
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Use apps for sugar babies. They do it because they sorta want it. And I say sorta because most people don't love their job, they just tolerate it, and I'm not talking about sex work only. Yeah nobody should be force to work, but that is capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:00 PM
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IRL women seldom say that, they play the "he needs to be charming, great personality and have confidence, his looks don't matter tehee". I actually respect more women who are honest and say more realistic things like your comment, but they are the minority or at least they hide it IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:57 PM
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Thanks for the positivity. Did wonders for me in my 20s hearing it from my female friends, but 35 years of hearing the same thing just feel cheep and tired. You have no idea how lucky you are when it comes to relationships because you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:22 AM
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Not at all. But at least we're more honest than women about what we want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:20 AM
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Yeah, because women can't really tell where you're being a nice "person". Women aren't the moral compass that they think they are. Genuine Personality isn't as important when it comes to how they choose men. You can pretend to be a "nice guy" but if she doesn't find you attractive in other ways i.e physicially she won't date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:02 PM
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This is were women don't understand it because they have different experiences. I know womanizers that date women who definitely don't fall into that category, they are succesful, attractive women and overall have great mental and social health. A lot of woman don't realize that, most womanizers hide it while dating successfully accomplished women. I've seen it so many times with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:28 PM
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I don't consider myself a hidden catch, I'm not the perfect men by far, I'm just an average guy who is pretty ugly and shy. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 women who would find me attractive, it's just that odds are definitely stacked against you if you're unattractive and shy. have been entirely self-focused Yeah, I was taught from an early age I should focus on improving myself, which has been of huge help in life and I think is good advice. Most of my friends are in a similar position but are actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:19 PM
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I'm always curious whenver this "women want genuinely nice guys" fallacy comes out, why do you think do the men who are "womanizers" are so successful with women if they are obviously in the second group?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:11 AM
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How do you meet women? University, english classes, gym. Have you ever approached a woman with a hello? I did it a few times when I was younger, only destroyed my selfsteem and selfworth, if you're uhhh... not attractive, cold aproaches are the most difficult thing that you can think of. Was rejected several times, sometimes nice which I appreciate it (the average women won't be offended or assume you're a killer like I read on the internet so many times, most of them are just not attracted to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:53 AM
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I go to English classes after work and attend classes for my second degree on Sundays at a local university. Every now and then, I hang out with my friends on the weekends, usually at a wings bar or a similar place, although not as much as I'd like since most of my friends are married or in relationships. I also used to volunteer at the local soup kitchen (I guess that's the most similar thing to the US; I'm from Mexico). What's that got to do with anything? My married friend works 50+ hours a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:51 AM
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So being in good physicial shape, a self-sufficient adult and content with life isn't something women are interested on? Damn, I swear I heard a different thing every time. I also have hoobies, I help my disabled grandmother and I did volunteering a few times. Just in case you want to play those cards to make you feel good with your just-world belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:40 AM
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This s**t again? I see it once a week at least. Women never understand this A lot of women look really bad, are obese and use filters all the time. But we men are more thirsty and desperate to get laid, so it doesn't affect them as much. But at least you're honest about the importance of looks for women. That definitely should be more accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:35 AM
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Yeah I'm not sure, but I also suspect due to world conflicts in the past men were in shortage, that is no longer the case in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:32 AM
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Trust me, as a 30 yo men who makes 110+ a year, goes to the gym and is overall content with life but who has never been in a relationship I can tell you there are. But to accept that, conflicts with a lot of women's just-world belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:26 AM
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Agreed, but most of these things are a result of modern society. Movements like the body acceptance movement have taught people that the body doesn't matter. I disagree with the emotions part; mental health is incredibly accepted nowadays, and I don't know why people keep saying that men displaying emotions is an issue when it's more accepted than ever in society. And good luck trying to get help from schools or the government to create spaces focused on helping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:56 PM
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More women are in relationships than men. I don't know why are you saying"women have quit dating" most things you say apply to men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:47 PM
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Women's sexual liberation by far, women can be way more picky. Dating apps. Bad social skills have affected men more than women. A woman can have no social skills and the chances of being asked out by men is still exist. If you're a man with NO social skills, you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:38 PM
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Why don't we try it and if you're right, then we can just go back to how we were.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:22 PM
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But if the only thing preventing those average and below average men from living the fuckboy lifestyle is their looks, then there is a slim chance they'll actually treat a woman well. Yeah, only thing preventing a lot of men from being successful with women are looks: Personality isn't as important as women make it out to be. Looks are among the most important things even more than personality or at least at the same level. I agree with everything you say, but most women don't admit that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:20 PM
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as long as they are getting laid that everything‘s OK Yes, that's what all men want, just sex, we don't want our emotional needs fullfilled too literally just sex. Dating and relationships are being destroyed because of this mentality. Being in a relationship requires sacrifice and change, women don't want to do it anymore, men are following suit too. Most people will end up being miserable in the future because "My boyfriend wants to me do the dishes so he's literally a misogynist" or "my girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:36 PM
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Once you start reading research that isn't done by buzzfeed or pop culture magazines its actually not as pretty With respect to gender differences in the domain of mental health, numerous studies provided the following results (see Simon 2002 for review): (1) married women and men experience better mental health than unmarried women and men; In their study, Simon and Barrett (2010) found that relationship status was more important for young women’s than for young men’s emotional well-being. http…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:33 PM
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Ya'll eating the modern ideologies like is pizza. Single people, both men and women, are in average unhappier single. Society and dating will suffer because of people's arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:29 AM
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This will sound weird but I actually get a lot of relief from this mindset. I know I’m not alone in this dateless environment, and many like me are trying to figure out whats next. You go to the gym, you socialize in public spaces, you learn great social skills, but its not enough. Yep, Most women don't realize men do this and they're still considered unattractive by the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:27 AM
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With age gaps. Less than 10% of population is in a relationship with 20+ years of age gap, yet you see people talking about them as if every man's love life is like Leonardo DiCaprio's
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:24 AM
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I'd argue only sex, women are more needy of companionship. But also, sex is enough for a lot of men. We do really need to teach younger men to up their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:19 AM
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I know people don't like to see how the real world works but I'm guessing he's talking out of experience. I don't chase women and focus on my self, that's how I own a house and I make 120K a year at 33 years old. Never had a women showing interest for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:13 AM
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So, are you a woman or an older person?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:11 AM
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Yes, nobody argues that's a bad thing. What people ingores, mostly women, it that it works. Lying and manipulating will get you laid if you do it long enough. Women can't really tell when a man is "genuinely being nice" most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:08 AM
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Some men will find that hot. Generalizations are bad. Personally I will stay away from that type of women, but one my college friends absolutely loves that, he's been in orgies and swinger clubs with his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:07 AM
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And imagine, if you landed an attractive FWB means you're more attractive than you think, so you're probably getting more attention than the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:01 AM
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This s**t again? Women never understand this A lot of women look really bad, are obese and use filters all the time. But we men are more thirsty and desperate to get laid, so it doesn't affect them as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:26 PM
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I'm a software engineer. But even if I was "broke", there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It doesn't represent my value as a person or as a partner. I'd never use stupid terms like "broke vibes" to try to offend people. But thanks again for showing once again, how a lot of women are superficial that way. Nothing wrong with that, just that for some reason most women have issues accepting that they are superficial too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:15 PM
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Improvement has nothing to do with money. You can enhance your self-esteem, personality, and beliefs without experiencing any kind of monetary growth. Women who automatically connect personal growth with money are being superficial. There's nothing wrong with that if it's your preference, but it is a shallow oversimplification of personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:08 PM
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They're probably lying? Or they have money and they're buying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:05 PM
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This again. Why women are so obsessed with age gap relationships? They're extremely uncommon, check for the statistics. Your average 50 year old isn't banging a 21 year old cheerleader, that's literally only the most succesful men doing it. As to why they do it because a lot of men think women are the most attractive when they are younger, so they do it. Just add it to the huge list of morally ambiguous things that only succesful and rich men can do but for some reason women think all men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:50 PM
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I think he's joking, that's literally the same "women, don't open your legs if you don't want to get pregnant" dumb logic that a lot of men make when arguing about women sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:40 AM
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Don't care Don't care Don't care Don't be obese. Don't have to be super fit or a model, just be average. Don't care Don't care Don't care Less than 50 would be ok Any religion as long as she isn't a crazy fanatic. Hetero Same +-7 (I'm 33 so 25-40 would be ok) Same as 9, don't care as long as she isn't an extremist on either side of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:37 AM
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Some men do try but they are shut down immediately by society. don't understand how people don't see this. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/nov/17/row-after-university-of-york-cancels-international-mens-day-event https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2699740 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsSGmSv3b4&ab_channel=EMAN67%3ARPforum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:09 AM
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I mean, a lot of people consider using other people for personal gains "smart" and yeah it works sometimes. We live in a fucked up society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:05 AM
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Most women have such a hard time admiting they care about looks just as much as men. There's really no point on argue that, you'll have a better idea watching at who they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:54 PM
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Oh yeah, but women have a network to help people understand their struggles, they are supported by universities, workplaces, government, and society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:48 PM
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You have to understand one thing: Successful, attractive men tend to act differently when they are around women compared to when they are around men. So, when a lot of women claim they are into 'good, decent men' and they start dating a guy who seems like that, the men who know that guy are aware he's an entirely different person when he's not around women, especially if he's attractive. They tend to exhibit everything that women say they don't like. A lot of guys who are successful with women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:59 PM
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Physical appereance matters more than women like to admit. The average women don't really understand what is like to be a average/ugly men in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:52 PM
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No, more like feminism have demonize shows of anger by men so there's no real conversation about it other than making fun and shaming men for showing anger, the only emotion that was accepted for men for decades because... men aren't emotional enough to show other emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:49 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis Specially women tend to be more emotional (nothing wrong with that, and we men could be a tad more emotional too) so it makes them feel more confortable because they think: They "select" good decent men for relationships. Good people will end up in relationships. Bad men will be punished and no women will be with them. It's really a defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:44 PM
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If op were talking about women, the thread would have been deleted in minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:05 AM
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It isn't common. Most women think they are good at judgin character but they're not, "being nice" won't get you far with women, pretending to be nice will get you far. It seems a lot of people don't really see the original point I was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:58 AM
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We try to do it, but changing things like unattractive height or unattractive face is extremely expensive and time consuming if you're lucky or just impossible if you're unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:06 AM
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Yeah, 65-35 is far from the "dating apps is 80% men".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:30 PM
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https://www.datingadvice.com/online-dating/dating-site-male-to-female-ratios https://earthweb.com/how-many-people-use-dating-apps Also not the same thing, but similar % of people have used dating apps at some point in their life: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1219489/share-of-dating-service-users-worldwide-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:29 PM
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Don't know but rich guys are like the 1% of all men, so it would still be extremely uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:18 AM
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Also the majority of dating sites/apps have almost a 50-50 male/female userbase, tinder and hinge are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:01 AM
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Most of my family married 8-10 years apart. Yes, that's why I said 20+ years. 10 years is more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:57 AM
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Also look for stats, I think only like 5% of men date women with 20+ years difference. Age-gaps relationships are so uncommon, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:49 PM
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Men and women see the world different. Women see desperation as red flag, because they have infinte number of options. Men see desperation as cute because usually we're alone with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:45 PM
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No, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:37 PM
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Shitty people its common regardles of gender or sex, you're right, but as usual using the women-are-wonderful falacy and missing the main problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:53 PM
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Yes. By that point the guy already got laid and got into a relationship. I'm not saying is the best thing to do, I'm just saying it works because women are really terrible at judgin character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:50 PM
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It's rather adecnotic experience. My best friend from college started watching anime because it's his Girlfriend's hobby. Another friend of mine started going to the gym because it was his girlfriend's hobby. This is more common that you'd like to imagine, and it happens both ways, it's not an "advantage for men"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:48 PM
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As a man, I 100% agree with you. There's a societal expectation that stems from years of sexism, suggesting that women 'shouldn't care about looks,' when they indeed care 100%, just like us men. It's a completely normal human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:57 PM
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So, what advantages would you say men have in relationships that woman dont?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:55 PM
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Absolutely, and men lie all to time to fit that judgment. That's the part they get wrong, you don't need to be a "genuinely" good guy to be succesful with women, you just need to emulate that behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:52 PM
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Just-world hypothesis and fear to admit what women find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:20 PM
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OP's doesn't realize being an attractive men makes women WANT YOU. He's right, when youre average or ugly you have to take the initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:16 PM
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Sex and relationships are one of the things where the average women is absolutely privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:13 PM
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Good, you shouldn't date somebody who you don't find attractive. What's the issue with men knowing what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:10 PM
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Good, you shouldn't date somebody who you don't find attractive. What's the issue with men knowing what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:09 PM
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The world is controlled by oligarchies that couldn't give two fucks about your sex or gender. Companies, universities and the like won't help men, go ahead, try to make course about men's mental health in your local university or talk to your manager about creating a program to help men and see how that goes, I still can't believe how people still deny it. Helping us each other can only get us so far, when we don't have society support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:07 AM
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I know, the day that happens, we will know for sure society is really be controlled by men. Until that day...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:59 AM
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If the world is controlled by men should be easy to get support from politicians, companies, schools and legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:55 AM
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lmao. You really think the average men is dating exceptionally good looking women and switching parterns for younger hotter women like is underwear? Women definitely think on the top 10% of men and think it applies to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:54 AM
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Most 30 yo men won't be dating 18 yo women. Your average joe isn't Leonardo Dicaprio. This is an idea made popular by (god knows who) to make men look like perverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:51 AM
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Look at the emotional support system women create for each other, This system has been consistently backed up by politicians, companies, schools, legislation, and the like. Agree with what you say, but we absolutely need much more than "supporting each other".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:47 AM
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Yep. A lot of men's experiences with dating, attraction and relationships are overhwelming negative. I wonder if we, as a society, should focus on helping men... uh... UH?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:51 AM
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Don't know what it is, in theory sounds like you're right but in my 30s and things have definitely change, I was asked out by a girl by the first time at 31. It's weird because it would seems you're doing a valid point but it's not that simple. If I have to guess there are other factors: At 30 there are more single women than men, add that you can now date women in your 20 and you have more options that women have, women technically can date men in their 20, but the average women doesn't like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:13 AM
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Women don't need go to exotic places to get laid lol their equivalent option is literally go to a bar or download tinder my bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:53 PM
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In most cases the woman does not know he is a rapist That's my point. Women don't pay as much attention to personality as they like to say they do. Most of times physical appereance is way much more important. "Good guys" aren't getting "snatched" just because they're good people, that's just the Just-world falacy in action. In reality is not as important or at least women don't really pay that much attention to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:44 PM
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I know, that's why rapist, abusers and murders are snatched up quickly! Chris Watts did married young, and he even had an affair, he sure is a "good man".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:35 PM
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Ah, the good old Just-world falacy. All the good guys are married, that's why no rapist, abusers or murders ever get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:29 PM
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They usually don't parade it around, you know? They keep it to themselves. My best friend from college has done something like that with his ex-girlfriends, from paying rent to helping them with car payments, and he only told me once when he was drunk. The day after, he told me to please keep it to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:24 PM
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I guess technically is better, not by a lot if you're unattractive, but I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:11 AM
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I guess technically is better, not by a lot if you're unattractive, but I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:11 AM
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And what is this toxic behavior I keep hearing about? How is it so much worse than what red pillers say every day on this very sub? Yes, TRP also has a lot of toxic beliefs, that's why /r/theredpill is quarantined unlike /r/femaledatingstrategy Is this something you really want to have said? the truth? Yes. The (very, very few) studies that have been done about incels said they are more prone to depression, suicide and self-destruct rather that terorism and murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:10 AM
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So, you've never used dating apps BUT you think you're would be one of the "unsuccessful" despite being obviously physically attractive? Really don't have a counter-argument for your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:05 AM
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You don't need to kill people to have toxic behaviour. there has been a small number of "incel-related" shootings sure, those men suffer from other mental conditions too, regardless, is a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:34 AM
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Agree, we need to focus more on helping men: creating more social programs for men, offering more help in the workplace, putting more attention to male's mental health. Oh! one can dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:12 PM
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Do people people think that men who aren't succesful at dating apps have better luck at cold approaching? Boy, I sure do have a surprise for you if you think that's going to be the case. The difference between apps and real life is that in real life you'll heard a "NO" most of the times, while on dating apps you're just ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:53 PM
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Even though I don't agree with what he's saying or how he's saying it, why should he lower his standards? The average man isn't a womanizer with tons of women behind him; we're pretty lucky if we have one girl interested in us. If he can choose younger women means he excels at something: looks, money or success, that's not something the average man has a lot of. He should be free to enjoy his sexuality. There's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:39 AM
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The idea is exaggerated in TRP circles, but it's based on a real phenomenon Seems to be the tl;dr of TRP in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:35 AM
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what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:33 PM
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All right scratch that, I ask you, should society focus on helpong men because they are falling behind?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:33 PM
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I mean, we're here to discuss so, what do you think of this? The research suggests that males were more likely than females to regret missing out on an opportunity to have casual sex. In contrast, females were more likely to regret casual sex encounters https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/casual-sex#who-is-having-it Research shows that women tend to have a harder time than men with preventing emotional attachment, and when this happens they are more prone to feeling used, depressed, regret…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:48 AM
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So do we live in a patriarchy where women are opressed. Or men are falling behind and are losers? You can't have both. Also, are women interested in personality, sense of humor and emotional conection or they're just as superficial and care about looks and success? You can't have both either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:43 AM
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México. There's a saying here that goes "If USA has a fever, México sneezes". The whole redpill/mgtow/datingfemalestrategy has been slowly leaking here, isn't good, but I've been to the US a few times and I find socializing here a little bit easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:17 PM
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It's a common thing, people lie to themselves all the time, women do it too, that's why I think the "Q4W/Q4M" threads are a total waste of time, people will give you the answer that makes them feel how they want to feel, NOT an objective answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:13 PM
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My man, don't need to take fictional literature as an example, in real life we have Gene Simmons, Jared Leto, Armie Hammer and an infinte number of examples of men who are complete shit and yet have no issues getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:07 PM
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Let me guess... all those studies are based in asking people if they have sex, right? When they are asked, many women often claim that they haven't had many partners. This is due to societal conditioning that discourages women from engaging in multiple relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:02 AM
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Never said they aren't average dudes getting laid, they absolutely are. We're talking about spectrums and probability. If you're physically unattractive the range of women who will find you attractive is going to be significantly smaller than a good looking dude. Doesn't mean you'll be virgin forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:47 AM
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It's called a sample size, and yeah, it's not a perfect representation of the average dating experience, for sure, but they are definitely more reliable than the interviews-based studies and more reliable than a lot of people here like to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:45 AM
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I'm talking about physical attraction only. Lebron and other famous men are sexy because they are rich and powerful. The average guy isn't Lebron. The women here discount physicial appereance too fast and like to pretend personality and other things matter more than they actually do, unlike how it happens in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:17 AM
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Same goes for women. Military is having a hard time finding adults in general. Google the % of women with overweight or with mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:09 AM
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I've thought about this too. It's obvious that physical attractiveness isn't as subjective as people make it out to be; it's more of an unbalanced spectrum that tilts more to one side than the other. Unlike the one you shared, it would probably look more like this: https://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/files/2014/10/okc_rating_curve1.png The best way to determine if you're good-looking is through dating apps. If we're considering a more scientific approach, you can try asking girls in bars. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:03 AM
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The problem with those studies is that women are shamed for having a lot of partners. When they are asked, many women often claim that they haven't had many partners. This is due to societal conditioning that discourages women from engaging in multiple relationships. On the other hand, men are admired if they have a lot of partners, as society often encourages men to be more promiscuous. When asked, many men confidently state that they indeed have numerous partners. Studies where people are "int…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:53 PM
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I know, women here are totally different from the ones I know in real life, my female friends who think "A guy with no sexual experince is a red flag to me" aren't women. There's really no point on arguing with women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:37 PM
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There aren’t enough eligible women out there either. It’s hard to take what a lot of women say seriously about relationships/marriage. What part you don't understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:50 AM
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Kindness, respect, and good behavior do nothing to initially attract women. They are merely baseline expectations. Yes that's why rapist, muerderers and the like aren't never in relationships!. Men disillusionment is created due to women's dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:48 AM
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Obligatory not all women because that's true, is not the same for all women, but a lot of women want a man who is desired by other women. This is also why they think men shouldn't care about a women past sex life, because women don't care about a men's past sex life, in fact the higher the number the better for them. This is, however, another fact that women here will deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:17 AM
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OPs point is a lot of women are attracted to men who have asshole-ish personalities but they don't like to admit it. Just the fact that you thought being an asshole is the same as "good looking men with social skills and interesting personalities with compatible lifestyles." says a lot about how women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:13 AM
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Yep, same. Had some female friends in my office job before working remote, that's really where I learn how important are looks for women. I genuinely believe every men should befriend women so they can learn what they really care in men and learn the "personality and sense of humor" are really not as important as they like to pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:22 AM
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I didn't said he wasn't attractive, I'd say he's average. That why I said is a spectrum, obviously people's opinon will vary a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:14 AM
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Attractivness is subjective, but not as much as people like to pretend. There's a reason what most women find Henry Cavill attractive and most men find Margot Robbie attractive. I also hate number scales, I'd say a "above average/average/not attractive/ugly" spectrum is more precise. MrBeast is definitely in the "not attractive-average" spectrum and the women he dates are definitely in the "average-above/average" spectrum. Power and money is attractive to women, who would have thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:49 AM
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I gree, but as per usual when this opinion is posted here is always a mix of Just-cause fallacy and and lack of self-reflect. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xy1yd5/women_are_not_wrong_in_saying_that_the_average/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:32 AM
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Dont actually think this an easy fix more just giving my own probably biased perspective. Yeah, I mean that was what I was gonna say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:27 AM
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Neither does 0 matches. But if you have where to choose from which is OP's case, is easier to get actual dates or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:42 PM
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He's getting 42 matches in a big american city. The dude is attractive. If he's having issues finding women to date, is definitely a "you" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:48 PM
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My dear friend, if you don't have women interested on you, you'll find difficult to master social dating skills since you can't practice them. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:39 PM
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A women giving tips dating tip to men. I wonder reddit's reaction if it were otherwise, a men givin women dating tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:33 PM
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The Red Pill is a hyperbole of real-life facts, for example: Women do find power, money and status attractive. As you get older you can get both of those things. When you're young, there are more single men than single women, when you get older there are more single women than single men, you technically get more options as men. As you grow older you're kinda more uncomfortable with yourself which can improve your chances with women. This can be a life changer for men, women can be awkward, weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:01 PM
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Yes, the average men isn't dating a hot 20 super model yo. Great finding OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:20 PM
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Two things that can completely change the way you see the world: being born super rich and being born super attractive. For some reason only the first one is accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:34 AM
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Can you at least share some studies or articles to back up ANYTHING you're saying? And please don't be a "we asked 1000 people if their happy single" type of study
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:40 PM
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Maybe it's the way you stare at women, the way you speak, maybe you grope them, maybe you talk shit. Oh yes, more just-world falacy, you need to be a decent men to get into a relationships, that's why pedophiles, rapist, abusers and killers are never in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:29 PM
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But they say you shouldn't actively look for women, just socialize and you'll eventually find somebody! How often have you or your female friends have ask men out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:06 AM
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Instead, they were the men who were the best coalition builders and military strategists. In other words, the best politicians in the cutthroat dog-eat-dog world of premodern empire-building. Yes, the most succesful men are and always have been a minority of powerful men, I'm not saying those men didn't passed their gens, because they most certainly did. That's exactly what I'm talking about.. If somebody has that study it would be interesting to read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:35 AM
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Yes. This is common knowledge, altough usually more women have a hard time accepting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:34 AM
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most men in this world, regardless of their ethnicity, height, appearance or body fat % will be able to find relationships, lose their virginity and have kids. Wasn't there a fairly new study that said the oposite? The majority of men through history weren't able to pass their gens or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:30 AM
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Op will probably tell you there's something deeply wrong with you. Women love to believe the just-world falacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:25 AM
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Is this trolling? I feel like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:25 AM
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And that it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:19 AM
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Yes, I know, women say they are above men when it comes to relationships, you don't care about looks, I'm sure you also only date really nice guys who are good at listening and are in touch with their feelings like all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:17 AM
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Because it enhances even further their chances to get laid. If you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:15 AM
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Because women are only open to casual sex with a minority of men. TRD is full of men who wrongly think that by copying that behaviour they will be successful with women. They don't understand those men are attractive on top of manipulative. FWIW I think they're being silly and obviously is not as effective as they think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:47 AM
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Because is not as important as women make it to be.If you're not attractive, a lot of women won't pay attention to you, no matter how "confident" you are. But there's really no point on arguing this. Other than that, you're giving good advice, it's just that it doesn't traslate to success with women, this is just another just-world falacy in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:30 AM
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That's how women rationalize it. Instead of just accepting that women tend to be as shallow as men, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:23 AM
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All of the womanizers I meet in college were giant manipulators and overall douchbags. Don't know why women have so many issues accepting the fact that those men are the ones who get more attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:14 AM
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Yeah, that's why there are not abusive man nor abusive relationships. Because women don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:06 AM
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People who try to hand-wave away the issue by saying stuff like "it's just a problem for reddit nerds" are out of touch with reality. Or women trying to believe the "just-world" falacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:38 AM
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Eastern Europe countries tend to have more female to male ratio compared to the US(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_sex_ratio#/media/File:Sex_ratio_total_population_per_country_2020.svg), that's one factor for how relationships work but the biggest one is that they tend to be more traditional than the US. Having said that, yes most men are in relationships, the small minority who doesn't is slowly increasing with each passing year, another user already posted the statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:33 AM
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We're on PurpePillDebate and we suppose to argue about this kind of stuff. The research suggests that males were more likely than females to regret missing out on an opportunity to have casual sex. In contrast, females were more likely to regret casual sex encounters https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/casual-sex#who-is-having-it Research shows that women tend to have a harder time than men with preventing emotional attachment, and when this happens they are more prone to feeling used, dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:12 PM
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A lot of concepts in TRP community are hyperboles of real-life situations. I'm a man in my 30s and I've noticed a lot of girls I knew in my late teens-mid twenties look physically really bad which can be a surprise. And I know this could be said about men but because women find 80% of men unattractive, this is not a surprise to women. I've also tried dating apps and I've noticed the 18-30 range is full of physically attractive women, while the 30+ rate has a bigger share of overweight, unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:51 PM
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The negative effects of casual sex affect women at a bigger rate than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:35 PM
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That's great and all, but like all the other comments here, I've had super nice well adjusted female friends who are overall good people dating complete assholes. I don't know why a lot of women are complete blind to the situation lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:20 PM
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For sure, I hope for a world where women don't care about men's issues and men don't care about women issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:11 PM
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Oh yeah agree with that one, I guess my comment was more directed to OP because I don't agree with the part where OP wrote this obvious BS of: I really believe that any normal dude that just had natural success doesnt see women just as objects. But I agree with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:16 AM
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Ohhh. I understand your comment. Of course valuing only sex is lame, 100% agree. But is not related to your success with women, it's just another Just-world falacy so many people specially women love to believe so much. There's literally a word for men who have tons of sex and objectify women: "womanizer". lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:12 AM
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Because real life is not the hyperbole theredpill/bluepill wants you to believe, is actually more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:01 AM
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I didn't say anything about why you don't have success.I said only valuing a job as just a job is lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:59 AM
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Would you say the same if it were a single women and encourage her to get into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:57 AM
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I'm sucessful at making money, I work at my dad's company and make 180k a year, I don't understand why ya'll having so much problem getting good jobs I really believe that any normal dude that just had natural success doesnt see a job just as a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:55 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis Just this thing over and over again. Plenty of men "Objetify" women and are successful with women. That's literally what a womanizer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:53 AM
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Totally agree, but you'd be surprise how many people believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:49 AM
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What men want in women is not the same thing than women want in men. A women career's is not important for me, nor her social status, nor if she has power or anything like that. We simply don't care for the same things women care in men. We just want women who make our life easy emotionally, because life is already difficult enough for men. Everything else is a nice-to-have but not a deal-breaker, unlike it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:39 AM
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Ya'll obsessed with the age gap thing. Very few 30-40 yo men will date 20 yo women. They're free to do it, just like very few attractive women will date rich men. They have their reasons, wish those people the best and hope they're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:32 AM
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For some people yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:29 AM
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According to date apps and all the women I've tried to date, they just need to see me. I guess they see my personality lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:27 AM
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unconsciously we both men and women put heavy importance in looks. There are a ton of studies that prove that women do it too, however for some reason, this fact isn't accepted in society. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-58248-001
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:23 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis If you're a good man you'll find a women. If you aren't a good man, you will have problems finding women. A lie obviously, specially because bad men get into relationships all the time, but makes people specially women feel secure because a lot of women like to think they're the ultimate moral compass for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:19 AM
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Ya'll really obssesed with the age gap. The average redpiller doesn't want to get marry either, so I don't know where are you getting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:11 AM
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It isn't. Is not any men's responsability to help on women's issues either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:57 AM
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I mean, that's actually low... have you seen how women rate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:49 AM
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Every women I've ever meet has had a "dating an asshole story", even those who are "satisfied" when I meet them, they always had dated an asshole in the past. Why do you think this is so common? The majority of women have had negative experiences on dating, it's obvious that is common. Why do you think is like that when women can "sense personal values in men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:40 AM
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Oh yeah, "your personal experience" over cuantificable studies. That's basically why it's not worth to discuss with some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:36 AM
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So, if women get deceived by man, would be fair to say women, in general, really can't sniff the values as good as women think? You honestly think the redpill/blackpill nonsense posted here is "in sync" with reality? At least they tend to support their ideas with studies which can open discussion. Unlike when I see your type of comments is always empiric observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:58 PM
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In your opinion, if women are able to smell out personal values, why do you think so many women date men who turn out to be "assholes"?. I know your username says you're a man, but are you a man? Your comments sounds like what women here post all the time, showing a "out-of-sync with reality" opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:49 PM
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Casual sex is bad for everybody. Men and women are still vastly different in the sex field, to women having sex affects their association with intimacy more than men, women also tend to form negative feelings after the act. So yeah, despite what women think here, it has a more negative impact on women than on men. Having said that, a smaller (than women) percentage of men also have reported negative experiences. Also most men who care about a woman with high body count are NOT the same men havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:53 PM
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Only thing I can see afecting how relationships work are countries with some sex imbalance i.e China or Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:25 PM
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I've had threads deleted cause apparently I'm "trolling". Is this thread trolling? Seems like gaslighting at least
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:01 PM
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My belief is based on what I've seen, it's pretty common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7SFdB9iPQ&ab_channel=Reporter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRvpH1gDp9c&ab_channel=Reporter I've used to work in a female dominated field (interior design) and I learned most women are just as unhappy as men when they are single. I don't really consider what you believe when I saw coworkers crying about how "undatable they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:21 AM
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And I do not believe most single people are happy, much less older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:22 AM
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That's a very optimistic outlook. I guess that would happen to a small percentage of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:02 AM
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For casual sex? Change wealthier, taller, stronger for more beautiful and yes, a good amount of men would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:53 AM
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Ignoring the age thing, I agree wit your title. I'm a men in my 30 and the amount of men I know that end up in relationships with women who behave in a way that if they were men people will call them "maniputalitve and toxic" is way too high. Among the most common things: women who abuse them physically, and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:52 AM
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Neither are ok. People telling you either one is okay are shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:46 AM
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Finally a decent comment from an "older" person. Generally "older" people talking about how wrong young generations are without truly understanding how much social norms have changed are the equivalent of boomers critizing younger folks for not buying houses. "Buying a house is so easy, I did it in my 20s". "Relationships are easy, you are doing something wrong obviously if you can't get into one!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:12 AM
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Our whole worth as women comes from how good we can serve our family and husbands. all men care about is looks. So, men care about women's value or we just care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:40 PM
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Money/Status in a woman doesn't matter as much as you think. A lot of women don't understand this fact. If she's attractive and fun, that's enough for a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:38 PM
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You assume the average women isn't a mess either. I'll give you the second point despite a lot of studies showing men-on-women relationship violence is more common than women like to admit, but I know it's still not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:17 AM
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Where? In a lot of progressive places. The amount of times I've seen it in the frontpage is ridiculous. It's obvious men in general have higher libidos but because of the "sexual revolution" a lot of people like to pretend women are as horny as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:15 AM
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Yeah, legit ugly guy here. 90% of men in places like /r/incels (back when it existed) or 4chan are average looking. My first day on tinder I got 7 matches and pretty much got at least 2-3 matches a day. Yes. you're obviously attractive, I used tinder for 8 months with 2 matches and they didn't answer. But it is true a lot of men have self steem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:12 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html https://www.psypost.org/2016/12/study-women-find-men-desirable-desired-women-46677 https://www.businessinsider.com/women-are-more-attracted-to-men-when-other-women-like-them-2018-1?r=MX&IR=T
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:05 AM
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Yeah, the women in here always differ from irl women and contradict every study done on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:40 AM
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It has good things, but it also full of shitty advice. Most of the people saying it doesn't work are women. TRD subreddit is full of men sharing their experiences. You be the judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:05 PM
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No, like when I saw it happening tons of times back in college and when I was working at the office. My female coworkers and friends just going somewhere hand having men starting conversations. That's how most of their relationships started, they really didn't have to put the same amount of effort than men have to. I apologized, I see what you're saying, so I rephrase it: Socially speaking the amount of effort that a woman have to put to meet men it's very little compared to men. Is it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:15 PM
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Agree to disagree. I've learned there's no point on arguing obvious things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:03 PM
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Absolutely. Don't know why you thought I was blaming woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:34 PM
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Men in average, aren't as social as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:29 PM
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Both men and women aren't socialized enough nowadays. The thing is, that affects more men than women, because men are the ones who always have to take the initiative to meet women. Women can have no social skills, just show somewhere and sooner or later a guy will initialized conversation. Not the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:59 PM
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I noticed that all three of them would constantly subtly neck and insult me as soon as the honeymoon-phase was ove IIRC women-to-male abuse in relationship have been going up in the last decade, the difference with male-to-female abuse is that this one is more psychological than physicial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:41 PM
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A lot of women yeah, I've heard it from my female friends "If he isn't dating at least one woman, is a red flag to me" But of course, in here women will disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:39 PM
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Men who keep "pulling out their league" constantly and still swear they aren't ugly, are never ugly. Or they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:29 PM
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I'm saying anecdotally, every guy I've ever met who think he's a "5 and I still date out of my league" or similar is never a 5 and is always above average looking or rich. That's all. The guys who are truly 5s are either single or have had 1 or 2 LTRs with average looking women in their lifetime. Of course you won't believe it but I don't care.🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:45 AM
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Quoting a wise person: "As if I care. People post anecdotal stuff all the time. Believe it or don't."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:27 AM
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The issue with these type of men is that: 1) Most men consider themselves uglier than they actually are. This guys is probably higher than a 5. Low selfsteem and self image is a huge problem with men. 2) A lot of men have low standards with women "out of their league" may be a 6 or 7 and not actually a really attractive women. But they are indded out of their league. 3) You can absolutely go up 1 or 2 points with personality. But don't expect to date a 8 if you're a 4 with good personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:00 AM
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If you're attractive, age doesn't matter. It just happens that 20-something have higher chances of being attractive than a 40 yo. Doesn't mean a 40 yo attractive woman will have problems dating. I'm guessing 40 yo women that look like Jennifer Lopez or Kate Beckinsale don't have problems finding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:12 AM
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Not "normal" but it's definitely more and more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:36 AM
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ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:36 AM
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Oh yes. The "attractiveness is subjective" argument that a lot of people like to mention. attractiveness is subjective, but not as much as you'd think. There's a reason why most people find Henry Caviill attractive and most people find Shane MacGowan ugly. Same thing apply for personality. Sure, there are 4 billion women in the world, some of them will have slighlty different tastes, but stadistically speaking, most women are attracted to the "hyper macho" type of guy. Sure, you can be soft, int…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:05 AM
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Scenario 1 is wrong, as most women you like to think women aren't attracted to those types of men when the reality is the opposite but women have cognitive dissonance and don't like to admit it: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920304876 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245 A lot of men who fall into the societal stereotypes and are "hyper-masculine" aren't having issues getting laid. Scenario 2 is similar to the first 1. A lot of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:11 AM
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Jesus, did you even watch the video? My point is a women need to be beyond absolute help to be invisible to men. Men don't need to be in that position to still be invisible to women, they can still be half-decent and less than average looking, and still get no attention at all. I don't understand why is so hard to understand this. Women Find 80% Of Men Unattractive, Says Crazy Study Most young men are single. Most women don't. Woman who are invisible to men exist, but are rare and usually is bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:53 AM
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For the millionth time, ugly women are not even in the same field than ugly men, an ugly women will almost always get attention despite being ugly. I don't understand why accepting this is such a big issue for a lot of women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg931HxUhTw&ab_channel=PlayingWithFire If you're getting absolutely not attention at all as a woman, you probably live in a extremely small town and have awful social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:46 AM
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There are 7B poeple in earth. They do exist, but are extremely rare, unlike men in the same situations, usually they have the following conditions: Live in extremely small towns Suffer from extreme social fobias or similar mental health issues. They are physicially unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:39 AM
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You don’t know what kind of crazy you can put your dick in because thats all you care about anyways right? No. I feel like you're projecting and have deeper issues. I hope you con work on them. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:39 PM
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Of course, every single man who has hit on a women is an old creepy, derange person. Sure. Also if a woman ever hit on a man, she's mentally stable always.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:11 PM
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https://lmgtfy.app/?q=unattractive+women+tinder+experiment https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/rtsh4v/women_in_a_nutshell/ https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/ Even if that is true, which it isn't, an unattractive women will still have way more attention relatively to an unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:08 PM
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Social scenarios. If you're a woman all you have to do is show up somewhere and because men are the ones who have to take the initiative, eventually you'll meet somebody who is attractive to you and you're attractive to him. If you're a man also social scenarios, but is 100 times more difficult. This is one of the "women privilege" that women don't like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:29 PM
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Not at all. Men know this. All you have to do be in a relationship as a woman is exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:25 PM
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Have of? Very few Have similar mentality described in here? Hard to calculate those numbers. Based on my experience as somebody who used to work in a female-dominated industry (interior design) and who has recently returned to female-dominated college for another degree? I'd say around 40-60%, at least in gen-z, I believe this wasn't as common before social networks. And before you call me sexist, I believe men's numbers are definitely similar, but men get punished worse in dating if they behave…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:52 PM
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You're right, but missing an important part, you need to read this: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xy1yd5/women_are_not_wrong_in_saying_that_the_average/ Looks aren't everything. Makeup and a good body isn't what I want from a woman in a relationship. Hey, but at least thank you for admiting how important physical appearance is to women, most women don't like to be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:12 PM
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The "what do you have to offer" question, albeit indirectly asked, is more common than you think when you're a man dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:11 PM
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Now you know why a lot of men have bad experiences with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:07 PM
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Obviously not all of them but they definitely represent a bigger chunk that reddit likes to admit. It comes down to the old "Most men arent dating material, but most women aren't either. Society just doesn't like to admit it for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:04 PM
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It's not only women, is just that women do it way more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:00 PM
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Real sex and relationships are less and less sought after. Some studies have shown 40% of women would be single by 2030, following current trends would be ok to assume the % of men will be even larger, the number of sexless men is increasing each year. I think neural gagdets are going to eventually emulate the feeling that you get from real relationships, but to be honest I'd say we're pretty far from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:25 PM
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Never thought about how that may be emotional unsatisfying for people in the long run, that's an interesting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:23 PM
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I don't think it would be that far away honestly, I think in two or three decades will be able to see something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:52 PM
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Mmh that's a tricky one. I think there are two possible scenarios: The one you describe, AIs are used to help people to better their skills. The other one, AIs will be used to pleasure people regardless of their their personality. If an AI is programmed to love you unconditionally, there is no reason for you to improve as a person because the AI will always be attracted to you no matter how you behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:51 PM
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Irrelevant but I'd like to see the % of men what will be single, I bet it would be even more taking into consideration there are more single men than women currently. People just aren't interested in relationships anymore and that feeling is increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:35 PM
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Q4W is really a futile category in this sub. But you'll get a mod message if you're too aggresive about it and they'll delete your message. Just a heads up to be more civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:33 PM
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My sister in christ. The same goes for women with men. Look up the % of women in abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:07 PM
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For casual sex/relationships? Absolutely. The same goes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:06 PM
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Incredible common, if you're 30+ you definitely have at least one friend whose marriage is based in this fact. One thing women and feminism have done perfectly and are miles ahead of men is teaching women their value and not to sacrifice everything for a man. A lot of man put their entire life in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:02 PM
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https://relationshipsadvice.co/age-gap-relationship-statistics/#t-1660711681758 They aren't as common as you think either. 54% of men date within 3 years their same age. The average men isn't dating that hot 20 yo hot girl. How is the increasing age gap stigma it going to affect dating? Not a lot. The top men will keep dating younger women because they don't care neither do women once they are dating those powerful men, so they won't be affected. The slightly more average but still attractive du…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:46 PM
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Every friend I've had from highschool regret deeply having spend all the time with their highschool sweethearts. Only one of them are still married and have going strong for 16 years, good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:56 PM
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The average age gap in the US is 2 years. I can only say, men dating women with age gaps are a minority, this is just another case of women being outraged and generalizing a small subset of men's behavior and thinking the average dude is acting the same way the most succesful and powerful men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:46 PM
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Nowadays there are tons of women using places like seeking, sugarbook or glambu who aren't being trafficked. Just stay away from the cheap ones, the sexual revolution created new sex workers who aren't being forced more that you're being forced to work 40 hours in a office.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:46 AM
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Dude I live in Mexico and for 25 USD you will get every STI in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:43 AM
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I'm guessing you're a woman. Tinder and dating apps don't work for a good chunk of men. The best looking/most powerful men are the ones having most of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:42 AM
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Physicial appereance matters a lot to everybody women and men. Men are okey admiting it. Women tend to lie about it. Also a lot of people's problem is they are playing out of their league, difference is women can get sex when they play out of their league, men don't get anything. There's a big sex imbalance in society, usually women have it easier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:45 AM
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Dude extremist crazy people exist, both incels and FDSs are the proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:20 PM
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People will drop out of dating, specially men. Less men to date, only the most attractive men will be available, mixed with the sex imbalance (way more women than men) of course the remaining attractive men will cheat a lot, women will complain how "men need better themselves". Everybody loses, it's men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:03 AM
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AI-generated porn wouldn't be a game changer. AI-women like in the movie HER, are going to completely change how dating/relationships work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:35 AM
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Oh, absolutely. If you think that's supposed to be a gotcha you didn't get the point OP is making.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:30 AM
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Oh my bad. Do you think is okay for non-traditional wives to look for men with traditional traits i.e make a lot of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:50 AM
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So you're not traditional BUT you think is okay non-traditional wives to look for men with traditional traits i.e make a lot of money. You're an example of what I'm saying: Women are okay with wanting traditional traits in men, men are considered sexist for wanting traditional traits in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:47 PM
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If you're going to have kids and not work I'll asume you will do the work around the house while your husband works, no? cooking, cleaning, etc... That's traditional, I can understand why you'll want a partner with money. But wait, I'm sure you think that's sexist, how dare I mention that! So you want your husband to do two things (Be in the workplace AND help you with the house) while you also do two things (Looking for a way to make money AND help in the house) in that case, money shouldn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:06 PM
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I mean, a lot of modern "career-oriented, independent" women aren't having children. EulenWarcher comment is more aimed to "traiditional" woman. If you want a traditional woman, yes you will probably need money, but go ahead, say you rather have traditional traits in women, see how that goes, but women wanting traditional traits in men, well that's just justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:27 PM
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I don't know... Hobbies maybe, visiting friends, women are way more social than men so probably having fun with friends. What's the point of your question If I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:59 PM
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No. I respect sex workers but that's not what I want in a serious relationships. I'm sure there are a lot of men who don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:49 PM
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One of the biggest taboos we have and we will still have for a long time is how shallow everybody is. Women and Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:31 PM
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The only time In my life I've been asked out was by a girl under me (meaning I was her boss). Some women are strangely turned on by power.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:38 AM
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This post assumes women are somehow honest angels. Women are wonderful effect. Reddit is full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:00 AM
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That's how a lot of attractive guys think. Most women chose to not believe it because it goes agains their "Just-word" belief (If you're nice you'll get into a relationship, the only reason why ya'll can't get laid is because you are bad people). In reality you can be decent and not having luck finding a girl who fins you attractive, you can also be a piece of shit and get laid constantly. Women just don't like to see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:56 AM
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Haha. They're just people who want to have their emotional needs meet, there's a big taboo about it sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:54 AM
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And now you know how the average unattractive men feels about relationships and dating. Actually you don't feel as shitty as the average unattractive man, at least you have experience, have meet people and have had relationships, while the average unattractive man has not. Modern society is fuckin up romantic relationships in ways we cannot even begin to imagine, the next decades are definitely going to be interesting. As in "things are going to be bad but at least psychologist will have new mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:29 AM
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It boils down to both men and women showing the same negative behaviours but men being the only ones who are punished. Are you a women and do you like a man who is out of your league? Don't worry, flirt with him and there's a good chance he'd agree dating or sleeping with you because of men heigh libidos, maybe he'll be your FWB while he's not out with his girlfriend. Are you a man and do you like a woman who is out of your league? You're shit out of luck. Are you a woman looking for a boyfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:17 AM
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No, that's something mostly women do. It's one of those things women don't comprehend that's is different for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:54 PM
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As a man who likes to talk about the issues man face nowadays, I'll say this: Women in general have it way worse in the sexual abuse issue by a wide margin. Yes, some women abuse men, but nowhere as the same level than some men abuse women. Having said that, regardles of your sex and age I'll NEVER advice for you to get black out drunk, is plain stupid and unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:50 PM
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Yes, I've said it before, men need to be realistic on what they can get and play in their league, specially if you're a unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:53 PM
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Don't worry they'll find a way to discard the studies. I've seen it thousands of times before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:51 PM
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It's almost as if physicial appereance isn't all, is just that it matters more than people like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:26 PM
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That's because the 80/20 rule is just the name, obviously more than 80% of men are getting laid. I think is more of a 60/40, there's a very real imbalance but is not as bad as redpillers make it out to be. Not yet at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:24 PM
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Yes, everybody knows this, women just hide it. If you have had close female friends at some point in your life you know the importance women put on physical appereance. This is not some new discovery my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:22 PM
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If you're a man, woman would not approach you, much less if you're unattractive, and your success rate is low, talking about 10-20% in average. The very posibility of ending up alone forever is real. You see things different because you've never have this problem because you're not a man. I'm going to give an example you'll understand: "Man, women are sure scare of men approaching them in the street, they blow things out of proportion, this makes me believe women see men as predators" Would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:57 PM
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Hey again, those are the man than women date. So it seems those terrible mysognisitic traits don't actually matter that much to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:52 PM
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If that's what makes you feel confortable with the current situation sure. Plenty of men's only problem is that they are shy, unnatractive and have poor social skills, they aren't misogynist monsters. Funny thing is that the misogynistic monsters are the men that a lot of women date apparently by the way they write about their dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:08 PM
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Oh agree. Men really need to get their shit together when it comes to their standards, understand what they can get and stop wasting so much energy in the wrong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:07 PM
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Oh we're just getting started. My cousin is a middle school teacher and he say social skills in kids are fucked up, the covid lockdown didn't help either. We're about to see a shift in society like we've never seen before. Good luck if you have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:24 AM
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One of the fews things in life where women have a privilege, but society doesn't like to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:14 AM
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The few ugly-ish guys I know are single but they always go for pretty women only, They've been feed the old "women don't care about looks" lie. I legit think this is one of the biggest issues nowadays, if they learned to date ugly-ish girls things would be way better for the average ugly-ish man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:12 AM
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Hell, women will most likely end up using it more than men due to the average women high standards. Most guys will only want a good looking woman that is pleasant to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:02 AM
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Yeah everybody is a little shallow, but if external traits are your only metric to choose a relationship, you're unhealthy shallow. It's okey if you prefer attractive women or men with money. But If that's the #1 trait you look for that's shallow. Everybody is at least a little bit shallow and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:28 AM
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The majority of women aren't attracted to the majority of men. So yeah you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:49 AM
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Choosing to be in a relationship with somebody for any reason other than his personality/sense of humor is shallow. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:48 AM
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Copying and pasting a comment I read the other day but changing only one word: "Why should I care about men's women's struggle 🤷 " I'm a man. I know what men go through with relationships, I rather focus on men issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:43 AM
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Sounds like you're trolling but you're not. That comparation is so silly in so many ways, the opinion of one person is of course anecdotal and irrelevant.Multiple people in multiple regions in a span of decades giving the same opinon has more statistical weight than your one friend "anecdotal evidence" Like I already said: If you want to really help those men focus on bringing awareness to men's issues and supporting social programs for men, because this situation will get way worse before it ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:42 AM
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But how do you know if whether what you have seen or been told is real? Because I've heard it from multiple people in multiple cities? I understand what you're trying to say it's a nice feeling. You're the equivalente of a boomer telling z gen "you should go out and buy a house, I was able to do it so you can too" instead on focusing how fucked up the real state market is and find a way to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:37 PM
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Yeah, all you need to win the lottery is to buy a ticket. Again, not saying it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:35 PM
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