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She’s reacting to him telling her that he’d breakup with her to protect his boundaries and she can’t handle having consequences for her (hypothetical) actions
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/26 01:12 PM
1

This was downright rude? You called her a flirty tomogatchi because she has a crush on her penpal? Cmon 6 months is a long time to be long distance without meeting (especially at your ages) waiting until 2027 to meet is insane. Maybe solidify a more relevant time for introductions before you try and define a relationship with a person you don’t know anything about.
/r/RedPillWomen06/03/26 05:00 PM
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I think any dude with integrity is going to hear what you want, decide whether they can provide that or not, and make a judgement from there. Anyone who’s genuinely interested in getting to know you would be fine with waiting. Actually I agree with the other commenter, don’t have sex unless you’re in an exclusive relationship. Keep it simple
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/26 05:33 AM
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I’m not a woman but.. There really is no way to tell if a man only wants sex with you in the beginning. They also don’t know you from paint, so any attraction is purely physical. The truth is most men (even the ones who want more) will want sex, and the best ones will wait as long as you will. Also I think for most people hooking up at the end of the date is the mark of a good date. But the best way to filter the wrong kinds of men out is to ask them straight up, what are you looking for, if we …
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/26 08:58 PM
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Relevance?
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/26 04:15 AM
1

Maybe, but how high should it stake in priority? And maybe that’s the point, is that women over-value finances. Cus let’s be serious, it’s not about anything virtuous like family rearing, it’s plain old materialism. Paying for bags, nails, and other bs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:00 AM
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Why should it be immune to criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:07 PM
1

You can’t change men either. Rest assured we’re going to fuck your sister/bridesmaid. Or atleast have thought about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:42 AM
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Does it matter? It’s what I want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:24 PM
2

If that is what she wants sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:38 PM
-9

No. If I’m going to be expected by my partner and society to take on the sacrifices and responsibilities of patriarchy, then I want the benefits from it. Including taking my last name
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:53 PM
1

This was in response to the woman you were responding too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:44 AM
1

There’s nothing fake about emotional connection that doesn’t take 3 weeks or 3 dates to establish
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:42 AM

I’m sure that may be true for most. But OPs point is that if men/women are so bad then why are you coming here to give more attention to them through bitching and moaning. And it’s true, the amount of bad faith arguments that get posted here about either gender is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:42 AM

I think OP’s point is that people that engage in the sub should WANT to engage sexually (intimately?) with the opposite sex. Rather than just bitch about one another
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:26 AM
6

They / we are all playing patriarchal monopoly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:21 AM
3

This is accurate, but not only in male socialization. Women frequently shame other women on their ability to secure marriage, and use wife status as a way to look down on each other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:37 PM

I would rather a woman who had a hoe phase but still managed to have some level of discretion, ya know? Don’t rack up 100 bodies in one month, but also I’m not gunna freakout if you’ve been in a Devil’s Triangle once during your lifetime.0
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:28 PM
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I remember hearing about this paper a month ago. As an ex-PSU student I scoured high and far to find this “aversion gap” white paper and concluded that the shit does not exist. Women avoiding accountability, sure. But there is no published scientific literature pointing to, or confirming that is a gendered reality. Stop drinking the kool-aid OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:01 AM
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Certain male opinions are not for female ears, and they deserve to have spaces where they can express themselves without worrying about offending women. Just like women have within their own homo-gendered friend groups
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:21 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:50 AM
1

How do I attract more sluts? I just wanna put them all in a pile and cuddle them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:50 AM
6

This is like the 4th time I’ve seen this exact topic posted this week
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:11 PM
6

I think everybody wants to think they’re some sort of paragon of wholesome behavior in the face of criticism. The problem is nobody’s willing to take an honest look at their own position, or accept the ugly parts of their own role in it all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:27 PM
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You know it’s funny that anecdotal stories don’t count as valuable, yet all you have to do is point at “data” ( as a word, not as any significant statistic) to say it doesn’t happen at any reasonable interval to be significant. Yet the majority of men old enough to have any kind of experience can point to a number greater than one of instances where this absolutely happens. Also I find your premise that “normal people do XYZ” is vastly outdated and that the mentalities around these behaviors hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:59 PM
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It was an autocorrect typo. It should read “rooted in denying the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:58 PM
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As a hoe myself I can say this is false. I’ve seen PLENTY of former (female) hoes go absolutely buck wild in college only to grow bored and settle for some schleppy blue collar man that is just happy to be there and provide. Your point that it’s overstated frankly feels like an overstatement rooted in not denying the truth. On the flip side, I am on the other side of such. Basically sick of running the streets and likely going to settle down with the woman who doesn’t care about my past outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:24 PM
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De-institutionalize marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:42 PM
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Strong doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:22 PM
16

Your density is impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:47 PM
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The same reason having friends of any gender is beneficial? Perspective? Someone to lean on when you need them? Someone to joke with? Do I really need to explain the benefit of having community?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:16 PM
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Friendzone is just a passive confirmation that she didn’t choose you. Unrequited love, and who wants that? Being friends with women is great, just as having friends is great
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:13 AM
44

I’ve, unbeknownst to me, made friends with a murderer on FBI’s most wanted list before so I guess it’s not that far fetched. Also knew a dude who raped someone in college, we weren’t friends though. You never know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:05 AM
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Or that women typically fuck men who are misogynistic over ones who are sympathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:39 AM

Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:00 AM
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Women are not a monolith yet all women are like that. Just like the majority of women share typical behaviors like waiting for someone else to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:00 AM
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Pretty sure women on basically every other platform complain about not being approached anymore. Sooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:51 AM
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Look shawty. If you can’t cum from penetration and your man can’t get you to completion through oral/hands then what else is there? I’d be remiss to call that sexual incompatibility. We love people who help themselves. I’m not saying homie should starfish his way through coitus, but women are typically much harder to get to orgasm. If your partner can’t do it reliably through typical sex are you going to dump them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:34 AM
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Lmfao accountability dodged. Question, outside of BJs, the man is primarily getting himself off outside of maybe one or two positions. So Whats your point? Y’all won’t communicate how you like it, and you’ll always do it better than an outside party anyway. Maybe put some of that knowledge to use and stop blaming other people for not getting yourself off. I know imma get mine, soo if you don’t that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:57 PM
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This is just like Paul Dolan’s nonsensical “the happiest demographic of women are childfree and unmarried” redacted almost immediately as it gave traction due to shit sample sizes and the like. But that doesn’t keep the spinsters from trying to convince women otherwise all over the place. Because women are more interested in any narrative of victimhood they can use to leverage discord elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:43 PM
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Take responsibility for your own orgasm. You know what gets you off more than anyone else. Click the mouse during sex if that’s what you know gets you going
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:36 PM
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They orgasm at the same rate outside of marriage, which is basically 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:35 PM
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She’s playing girl games to bolster her ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:45 PM
1

Duality is the spice of life!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:37 PM
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Because typically men that have success with women don’t turn to an implicit acknowledgement of TRP. Regardless of whether they’re implementing its principles or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:32 PM
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That’s all they friggen do here. It’s soooo woe is me piss baby nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:52 AM
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What kinds of guys do hot anime goth girls like? I’ve already got tattoos. Also where can I find the hot anime goth girls? Idc I’ll fight a dude or two to prove my worthiness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:51 AM
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I would rather want to know why she wants to “stop” it. Like what effect is it on her what LBH’s are doing with their lives? PPDLadies please chime in if you’re reading. Also to answer OP, money and the nature of being exotic outside of your normal surroundings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:31 AM
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Albeit I totally agree with your assertions about possible implied desirability dynamics, prudishness, or carrot dangling, really this is all about tact. If a woman is so structured that she won’t have sex with me for 6 months she’s not for me. Especially because there’s nothing to keep me from lying for 6 months, getting cheeks, and ghosting. Any well adjusted woman will know, there’s no specific number, but a feeling. If it never comes, or it comes super fast, so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:50 AM

Very likely a man will have one of the hobbies you listed AND one in your “allowable” hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:06 AM

You just said fishing lol. That’s one, it doesn’t suddenly not count because you didn’t post the list
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:06 AM

Go on, name something then. Bet it falls on your list
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:50 AM

Just another low tier reminder that women don’t actually like anything that men do outside of existing as a concept for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:50 AM

Everybody knows women don’t have hobbies /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:47 AM

Damn ma, what does that even leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:32 AM
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Ya but then you get to divorce and take the payday. It’s just smart business as a woman to play the game this way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:47 PM
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Because all women ARE like that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:50 PM
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You’re just flat out wrong. And if that is true then Bluepill in fact does not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:49 PM
1

Let’s stop playing around the bush, it’s money. Yes, money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:08 PM
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Hes saying pay for it and shut up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:06 PM
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RP existed before podcasters became the loudest voice in the room. RP is going to tell you to get in the gym, learn game (social skills) and spin plates. BP is going to placate you to say women care about personality more and just be yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:45 AM
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Nah, that’s pretty red
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:36 AM

They don’t like RP because it’s cynical but true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:28 AM

Full on agree. But the virtue signaling crowd would never admit it, or there’d be a thousand “oh no not me” that would try and force the bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:23 AM
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Ofc they do, that’s all I ever hear about from my female friends is fear of cheating. MAYBE it’s because they all constantly choose chads? Idk, not all my friends cheat, but the chad types absolutely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:31 PM
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Actually part of the outrage of “property loss” is top women’s loss of monogamy in “alphas”. Talk to me about entitlement of hot women towards hot men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:55 PM
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I feel like you wrote this whole thing after comparing Betty Draper to Peggy in MM, and I’m here for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:33 PM
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Lol gotta love the downvotes I’m fine, just that women have no concept of bodily autonomy when it comes to men. So the hordes get peeved at the idea, because that’s something that only happens to women. But let a attractive woman find a man attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:38 AM
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Sorreh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:13 AM
8

I’m just sick of being sexually assaulted
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:50 PM

You know what that means right????!?!? Conservative men will have to share their bitches. Thus fulfilling the conservative bogey man… being cucked. But hey, atleast it won’t be by a black guy 🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:01 PM
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Depends on your age. Adults? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:18 AM
1

Then.. don’t stare like a fucking creep? Jesus Christ I swear to god these children
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:16 AM
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The fact you think observing someone you find attractive is “eyeraping” says enough lmao Gen Z nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:47 AM
2

The hunger is ever present 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:01 AM
0

Sure Jan. Virtue signal QUEEN
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:00 AM
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Yes. That’s like a conservative using liberal lingo or visa versa. Words have meanings and affiliations, it’s why you can’t use the n-word socially, but I can
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:13 AM
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No, I wouldn’t say scarcity. It’s more of pride. Like the same way you wouldn’t take a cheater back after the fact. I see myself better than this, or in a relationship that’s framed this way. You didn’t pick me, fine. But I’m not going to subject myself to negative emotions for the sake of our friendship either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:12 AM
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What if during the friendship she blurs the lines with flirting and even crossing some physical borders, but not outright sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:49 AM
1

Anybody can get the axe, friends, family, spouses, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:42 AM
6

Lol @ a blue pill dude using the term “oneitis”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:38 AM
1

Bad faith argument if I ever saw one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:35 AM
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Terrible take. You should have had more self respect and cut the cord
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:32 AM
0

Huh? Are you trying to be condescending because you don’t like the term “pair bonding” to describe the process of relating to a romantic partner with the purpose of sharing a life together? This sounds like a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:31 PM
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Biology and the animal kingdom
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:26 PM
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One case where one actor on a public forum made a post about it. No charges being pressed, no identification of the perps, no repercussions. Doesn’t seem like it’s being taken seriously to me. Also your post (atleast to me) implied that women take accountability for sexually assaulting men. When I assure you they do not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:35 PM
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They absolutely don’t? How many men do you know that have been sexually assaulted by women? How many of them report women taking accountability for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:30 PM
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Men going their own way. The male equivalent of the women’s 4b movement
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:50 PM
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I swear to god every day, every hour it’s the same bullshit topics. I can see why the women hate yall
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:10 PM
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I do alright for myself. But yes you hit it on the head. The assumption is that only ugly losers are sick of the shit. So when someone viable tells that they’ve de entered women, there’s a negative reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:16 PM
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When they ask me how my dating life is going?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:31 PM
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I disagree. When I tell women/friends that I’ve decentered women it’s normally met with aversion and distaste
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:04 PM

It’s not about whether you’re interested in it, it’s the fact that exists outside your perspective because you’re not in those spaces. So if your basis of determination is “I don’t see it” then my answer is you’re not looking in the right spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:17 PM

If you’ve been to ANY tabletop game convention you see overweight men with gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:06 PM

I’m saying that change starts when you accept your current reality and all its pros and cons, determine what you want to do about it, and take action. Women and relationships are not some sort of magic bullet that will validate your existence. If anything they open your mentals up to more vulnerability. There are enough women in the world that like fat dudes, but I assure you there are no women who like fat self depreciating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:57 PM

I’m sorry you’re in that physical predicament bro, but I have to ask you. What is the point of your gripe here? That other people have it easier than you? To that point I ask you, so the fuck what? You should focus on yourself and the opinions of people that care about you. Go where you are loved, identify areas of your life you want to change and change those, because I assure you. Even if you found a relationship your inherit insecurity surrounding your weight would become a slow poison consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:30 PM
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Nuance that I haven’t seen mentioned yet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:19 PM
1

How old are you? Not trying to be mean, but it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:46 PM
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This is assuming there is no sexual attraction early on. But just because there’s sexual attraction doesn’t mean feelings. It’s much more complicated than “would or wouldn’t”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:44 PM
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Possibly, but I’m leaving out some of the more intimate details. Let’s just say she choose elsewhere and it didn’t work out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:41 PM
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Thank you for this, honestly I’ve been wrecking my brain trying to figure out if I’m an asshole for throwing up the boundaries and taking a clean cut. I actually really did enjoy the friendship while it lasted. But it’s best to not muddle the waters, if you wanna be friends then be that. No weird grey areas Also this is the first time typing it out, so it’s good to get the story straight. I know I’m going to have to tell my main friends why I’ve basically been avoiding them for weeks atp
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:57 AM
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I’m dealing with this exact thing rn and I just cut off a friend because of it. We went on a date early on, I decided that she felt like she’d be settling if she was with me and I made the determination to move on. I end up with a situationship that becomes a relationship. Then after a night out she starts flirting hard and before the end of the night lays a deep kiss on me, tongue and whatnot then runs off in a cab home. We spent the summer flirting on and off but I had a situation that I had r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:17 AM
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Buddhism has been trying to tell us this for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:41 AM

Oh cmon, you don’t really feel that way. Particularly the last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:14 AM

Because she likes those things lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:06 PM
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We hate truth because it highlights how shallow and basic all of our preferences are. Rather than just admit we are shallow and operate from honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:50 PM
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It’s a theology that I started back in 2018 based on Doc Love’s “The System” dating dictionary. It was catchy enough that it was quickly bastardized and into whatever nonsense you find on Google today
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:46 PM
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Bro, that’s literally the highlight of my days sometime. Get up on the fiber game, it’ll change your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:12 PM

It’s because their entire lived experience has been typecasted by social media. So they only know how to identify in boxes. Honestly I feel sorry for them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:03 PM

This is just absolutely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:00 PM

Women are one of the largest enforcers of patriarchy, but we’re not ready to have that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:59 PM
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I’m not being ironic, but I will engage a little deeper. Doing anything with the motivation to attract/score women will inherently turn them off. Why? Because it gamifies their own existence. Suddenly they feel as if they’re being manipulated by their own desires. Or that you’ve managed to identify a trait that you can manifest that will draw their attention. Now in their minds their attraction is superficial, and it makes them feel shallow. Sure it’s all internal and has little to do with how y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:42 PM
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Just get comfortable lying to women bro. Trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:17 PM
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Maybe we can have a broader discussion about the culture influencing the behavior rather than trying to hamster into some ramble about my individual vetting processes. Like I said, gaslighting, virtue signaling, and deflection. Also note, I don’t have a huge problem with paying for dates. But to lie and say that it’s not a thing based on your limited experience dating women is enough to aggravate anyone with real lived experience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:20 PM
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Or maybe I have more exposure to women than you do? Also I’ve had women actually flip shit when I’ve asked them to pay for a round of drinks at the kickback AFTER I brought dinner and tickets. And her explanation was “other girls don’t have to!” Needless to say I was done with that. Like I said, if enough men are parroting their experience your anecdotal “not my friends” isn’t helpful. Even larger discourse on TT or IG says OP’s thinking is the dominant culture. Just.. enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:46 PM
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I have single female friends and they ABSOLUTELY talk about this. Maybe not as a keystone point to the date, but definitely as a footnote regarding the night. The virtue signaling and subsequent gaslighting here is enough to tilt anyone with any real world perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:39 PM

Fat girls give amazing head let me tell you. And have some of the most A1 pussy around, let me tell you. I hit a 240 a few times and I swear it was like throwing my hips into a fucking ocean of serenity. I prefer athletic/thicc bodies but I will not lie and say some of the best kitty I’ve had was from a fat girl. The trade off is the general life aesthetic and what they’re physically capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:44 PM

Black men have always liked larger women. Kim K just got on the scene and she was attractive enough that white men took notice. When white men took notice society followed suit. (Also pre-2016 nobody wanted a black partner) Not a massive alteration to your point, but it just needs to be said. Also, why do women think that being pretty will keep you from being cheated on? Dread theory doesn’t work on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:39 PM

Pride is a deadly sin for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:28 AM
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Strong doubt. And frankly this reasoning is literally the flimsiest line of thought that keeps people locked in. If a study were to suggest that men don’t benefit from marriage it would be devastating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:10 PM
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You’re right. I retract my point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:12 PM
1

This is clearly written to trigger men because you conveniently left out that those men who are having sex are having sex with multiple women. So in this case who’s the cuck? Is this not polygamy? Also the main tenant of marriage outside of paternal confirmation was to keep men from abandoning pregnant women. So where does that fit in your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:57 PM
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You can only legally do it once. Or you take the law/government out of marriage. Or you remove the tax benefits for being married/health care sharing/ etc. There ya go, three genderless changes to marriage that penalize people who abuse the institution
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:59 PM
1

Ding ding ding, but the women will absolutely hamster away from this EVERYTIME you bring it up because it benefits them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:57 PM
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Because the truth is ugly and bitter and we’d rather swallow that pill than be lied too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:39 PM
5

My “Ken Doll” theory says that to women: men are treated as props in women’s competitive narratives with each other, not as humans with emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:23 PM
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It’s because he came with a fact and a source and instead of acknowledging the data you hamstered and engaged his faulty statistic instead of the core idea he was expressing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:05 PM
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Lmfao I hope this is satire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:52 PM
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Yall really just get on here and say any stupid shit huh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:35 AM
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I mean I agree, but I’m speaking in generalities. Not for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:23 AM
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Also men have a high tolerance for bs, so it’s rare for him to see a woman as a net negative when she very well could be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:20 PM
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Lmfao this honestly sounds like a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:38 PM
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Maybe you should take it out and stfu. Be the change you want to see in the world. Also top tier men don’t need women, like at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:10 PM
1

The zeitgeist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:56 PM
0

It’s not low effort at all. Plenty of women leave commitments because of FOMO and accumulated resentment stemming from said fomo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:38 PM
0

Yeah until they decide the “mental load” of said commitment is heavy and then they change their minds. women are trash, idk what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:37 PM
1

Well then I hope your own divorce comes soon so you can understand the gap in perspective you clearly have. And don’t worry about other people punishing you, I’m sure you’ll punish yourself enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:40 AM
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I dOnT kNoW wHy PeOpLe TaKe DiVoRcE sO pErSoNaLlY 🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:35 AM
1

What a privileged detached perspective. I’m not even going to try and explain why divorce is so personal in my own words, and I know you do not give a shit enough to challenge your own perspective. So I’ll let a.i do it for me: People take divorce personally because it shatters identity, dreams, and security, triggering deep feelings of failure, loss, and betrayal that affect self-worth, control, and future hopes, leading to intense emotional pain, blame, and even trauma as they confront a drast…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:32 AM
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Because when you marry typicallly the vows include till death do you part. And unless there are extenuating circumstances then that should be expected. If they cant handle it then they shouldn’t say it. Just like when people break business contracts. And if your marital commitment as flimsy as you describe then you shouldn’t be surprised when your partner abandons you as soon as it’s convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:24 AM
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Don’t vow to do something if you’re not going to do it? Simple as that. And again, marriage is a joke. The institution should be dismantled, or atleast disenfranchised legally
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:18 AM
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Women overwhelmingly want commitment though. So this does my track
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:15 AM
-1

That’s not commitment then, it’s bullshit. And if you’re u gunna get up and lie infront of your friends and family you should be punished for it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:14 AM
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I respect how honest this is, but this same honesty would never motivate me to marry “you”. “Either commit to me or I’m leaving cus I have goals” speaks NOTHING about how you feel about your husband. If anything he’s a tool for you to use to achieve your goals. And I don’t mean this personally at all, but that’s probably how most women view their partners. Fuck the whole gender, I refuse to be a stepping stone for you to achieve your goals. I’d rather die alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:38 AM
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Because they don’t give a fuck. To them vows just play into their own narcissism / solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:33 AM
-2

Then why are women so obsessed with trying to get women to “commit” (complacent) with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:31 AM
-3

In this thread: a whole bunch of women making excuses for why they’re shit at commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:28 AM
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Just because you’re not technically cheating, doesn’t absolve you of being a shit person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:58 PM

A fucking men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:00 PM

Holy shit are you daft OP ?!? Do you realize in the spirit of “competition” that there haven’t been thousands+ of POC/women that have been gated from accessing success based solely on their gender or race? You can’t be fucking serious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:01 AM

You also clearly did not read it. It has nothing to do with boyfriends themselves and more to do with women’s posting and engagement metrics once they soft launch a partner. Just stop fuckinglying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:58 PM

Oh excuse me, I thought we were trying to build equitable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:55 PM

Nobody even read the article though Edit: since this blew up, here’s the article: https://www.vogue.com/article/is-having-a-boyfriend-embarrassing-now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:35 PM

Yes to all of this. But I also posit the question. Now that relationships are purely optional and based on lack of adding stress instead of happiness I ask you: Are women adding stress into their partners lives? Are they prepared to be judged the same way they judge others?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:30 PM

I’m successful but dead inside so… nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:42 PM

It’s a common sentiment amongst the relationship subreddits. Next time I come across it I’ll absolutely double back, because I also think it’s absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:25 PM

Absolutely online, check the relationship subs specifically. All of them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:25 PM

Actually people have gone full parabolic with the age gap thing. 24 vs 29 gets as much ridicule as 18 vs 45. Mostly it’s Gen Z trying to find something they can feel moralistic and sanctimonious they can ridicule
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:03 PM
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I perform SOME acts of chivalry for my female friends SOMETIMES. I ALWAYS perform acts of chivalry centered around women’s safety (walking her to her car, etc) The other stuff (like opening car doors) is only saved for women im courting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:06 PM

You’re not sex positive, you just have a taste of what sexual repression is stealing from you. Also any sex positive person would be doing themselves a massive disservice by being with someone who’s abstinent. Pls stay in your own lane and date someone else who’s abstinent. Also wall of text
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:38 AM

Honestly he writes like a 20 year old who just got to college and had someone touch his weiner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:37 AM

What!!! Dude sex in marriage is as conservative as it gets. Cmon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:35 AM

😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:25 AM

Well damn… if I can’t cosplay my favorite porn then whyyy botherrrr.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:53 PM
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This makes no sense. That’s like supporting big tobacco but hating smokers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:37 PM
1

This is so spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:30 PM
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So women are bad at being happy and staying committed when things are bad. Therefore women are bad at marriage and commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:58 AM
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We’re here to talk about object reality through anecdotes and data. Not about whether my mindset is productive. Sure. But then you come back from that. You build again. Your plant again. You try again. Why should anyone bother? The definition of insanity is doing the same shit and expecting a different result. Women + marriage is a bad combo and the data supports it. The happiest demographic of women is childless and unmarried right? Just admit it and stop the bs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:19 PM
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Personally I don’t think they do. And frankly to say married men are somehow better off sounds like an opinion not a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:06 PM
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Maybe women are obsessed with cohabitation and marriage and because of this they rush head first into every opportunity to run up the relationship escalator. And then they get a taste of what commitment is and then double back because they can’t be relied upon to keep their word
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:05 PM
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Sure I’ll answer your question. Because divorce is a gut wrenching, soul crushing experience, that will rob you of your joy, take years off your life, socially exile, and financially ruin you. Maybe. And maybe men make shit husbands. Yeah but if it’s a race to the bottom women are leading the charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:55 PM
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Why are y'all so afraid of divorce? Why do yall keep pushing marriage as a valuable/stable institution when women are involved? Maybe women make shit wives
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:46 PM
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Frankly you’re just wrong. And instead of backing anything you say up, you’re just parroting what you think and stating it as fact
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:42 PM
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https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/64064ec3d221ea1fb1938599/1743561509174-65IELAVFVNZTTKUEBYGE/Woman+and+Divorce+Graphic+2025.png
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:39 PM
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https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/64064ec3d221ea1fb1938599/f9ebd330-5195-4246-8aa2-410e4f4c984a/Gay+Divorce+Statistics+2025.png
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:38 PM
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Divorce is never a good thing for children. At best it’s neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:35 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01494929.2010.543030?scroll=top&needAccess=true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:34 PM
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The hamstering of women in this thread to avoid admitting that the failure of lesbian relationships often comes down to the expectations of women from their partners is ridiculous. To then try and say that the stats are padded because of men. Honestly smh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:31 PM
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From ai overview Scholarly articles indicate that lesbian couples generally have a higher divorce rate than both heterosexual and gay male couples. Reasons suggested for this include greater relationship expectations, quicker acknowledgment when a relationship is failing, and differences in factors like cohabitation length, prior children, and shared children. However, some older studies, such as a UK study from the Office for National Statistics, have been challenged for using outdated data and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:23 PM

How is that different from dating at home? Men with lavish money or power get first pick. Also, women go on sex tourism all the time? Girls trip to Italy, France, Spain; “for the cultural experiences” In Jamaica they/we have a name for the men that serve white female tourists. They’re called “rent a dreads”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:16 PM
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The answer is men don’t NEED women. For shelter, food, or clothing, or any other basic needs. Men may WANT women to reproduce with, or commune with, but there is no biological need to procreate etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:23 AM
1

You literally are agreeing with him, Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:18 AM
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They don’t, but your line of questioning after reading the comments of a sex doll manufacturer makes me think you wouldn’t comprehend an answer either way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:17 AM
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Good thing a sperm cell doesn’t contain the components to form a complete zygote. Go off though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:41 PM
1

That’s not very gold pill of you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:39 PM
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Um… no. Infanticide =/= abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:29 PM
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Ooof, I know that’s right. Two tickets please!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:26 PM

Just pointing out hypocritical nonsense when I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:26 PM
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If it makes you feel better most responses I get on this sub assume I’m some fat balding incel for disagreeing with them. First off, I’m not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:27 PM
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You’re making wild and stupid assumptions of me based on your activity with other users on the sub? I’m not even going to bother reading your anecdotal nonsense, because it assumes that because people post here that they have no community? Tf? Stay on topic. If you’re going to take a purely utilitarian stance on the opposite sex, then you should be comfortable when they do the same to you. Doesn’t take 7 paragraphs to get that point across
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:52 PM
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Love isn’t something that needs to be redefined individualistically. And love isn’t some feeling that obscures your senses to the rest of the world. People normally grow out of this by their teens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:50 PM
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Who said anything about women not wanting me? Lmao. My life is superb after ending my engagement, living alone, and un-tethered to some entitled, insecure princess archetype who thinks they’re doing ME a favor by bitching and moaning. Ain’t enough pussy in the world worth my peace again. It’s funny though because women are all like I’d rather be single and peaceful, when the reality is, any man worth his salt was content BEFORE you entered his life. Yall not ready to be judged by your own standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:47 PM
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Nah, i trust my accuracy and stand on it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:44 PM
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Crazy because between the two genders women are much more likely to seek mate approval from their peers and society than men. So miss me with the priority bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:43 PM
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I don’t agree with the medium ugly jokes but I will say that ⁠What they’re describing is unconventionally attractive people, people that are very appealing to them but don’t fit the typical beauty standard. It’s poor phrasing but it isn’t supposed legit mean they find these men unappealing. Poor phrasing is literally the lynchpin of the trend. We have to take these things at face value otherwise there’s no debate. ⁠It’s a fucking tik tok lmao. Not remotely a reflection of the average woman’s opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:42 PM
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So… when you see a hottie with a dud of a dude.. Female society’s reaction is what exactly? We do not hesitate to tell the man hes being settled for “oh you’re so lucky, don’t fuck it up etc” When the uglies are reversed, Whats the response from general society? (Hint: it’s not the same)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:34 AM
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This is an OUTRIGHT lie. Come tf on. The sex that has historically married for safety has never gotten to choose to be 100% attracted to their partner, and they loved him enough to not cheat. I normally ride for the guys here, but this is just bullshhit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:30 AM
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This is bad faith, chicks have whole trends about medium ugly bfs, and we can hear the way you all talk about suitors. Don’t lie to try and hide the ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:28 AM
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Pump and dump victim right here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:25 AM
1

Since when has that stopped them from being panhandlers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:21 AM
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I hope you support sex work since you have such an idealized, utilitarian forward view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:18 AM
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You can love someone and fantasize about other people. It’s just not ethical/moral
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:14 AM
-1

Dw were already here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:12 AM
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The person she’s paying is most likely a man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:36 AM
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They’re arguing in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:17 AM
2

So share them and shut up? Idk what you’re expecting based on this comment tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 05:04 PM
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Pretty sure the topic is men and women’s struggles on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:56 PM
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Technically I’m responding to both of you, but I’m not sure how you can’t follow the points I’ve made. Women are not actually sitting in some sort of magical buyers market. If they were then they’d be finding relationships at the rate they want and there’d be no female side complaints on apps. To say otherwise is delusion. I know multiple perfectly good, beautiful women who can’t find a relationship through any of method. So playing the whole “men have to bring something to us” is a poor read of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:45 PM
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If that’s the case then we shouldn’t be surprised when men treat women like disposable napkins that get tossed once they’re saturated. Either we value men and level the empathetic playing field or women will continue to get treated like sex objects Also pretty sure women are also benefactors of the “select a partner off an app like DoorDash”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:35 PM
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Don’t. Spin plates forever, dump the hoes who complain
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:56 AM
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I have seen this a lot more commonly in younger women - up to college age. Not to much in adult female friendships, BUT I do know that the threat still lingers. Even right now two of my homegirls of two different friend groups are having rifts with their besties. One has since repaired, and I’m sure the other will eventually too. I’ve seen this female competition stat play much more frequently with less anchored friendships. But yes I would absolutely say female friendships tend to be more fragi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:18 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:02 AM
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Yeah but right swipe ratios are probably a poor metric on what men would actually consider attractive or appropriate partners for themselves. EVEN if we were to only account for sexual - based relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:53 AM
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Honestly. I don’t know if I really blame OF. But I do feel like men’s preferences in women has narrowed. Now if you wanna blame culture or environment I don’t know. But black men’s taste in women has once again spread to the other cultures. Suddenly thicc and curvier body types were in favor again. This is a great departure for what white america thought was attractive in the 90s (think Paris Hilton) It feels like society feels like they should emulate what black men feel is attractive and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:07 AM
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I mean I don’t think you should take men’s opinions on female behavior with a grain of salt. There’s a degree of empathy that is healthy but overall you’re free to develop yourself into any kind of woman you want. (or atleast what your environment allows for.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:28 PM
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Finally someone gets it. A lot of times what women call “mystery” is just unspoiled potential when they’re viewing men they don’t know. But based on the information they’re given at a glance they can assume a few important qualities. “Is he capable? Is he healthy? Is he an asset unto himself?” Counterpoint: i think men aren’t being honest enough that WE only want the top 20% of women. Even the gross incel dudes aren’t fantasizing about their looks match, and typically treat women they’re not faw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:19 PM
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You’re arguing with a brick wall that thinks TRT gives her claim to genuine masculinity, of which it does not. Your comment about having a period is a perfect example of your point. This is just misandry wrapped in pseudo-endocrinology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:34 PM
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Do you think men by large support lying, or consent violation in order to fuck? Are we talking about barbarians? Or civilized society here. Rapists and murderers will always exist and are not a representative sample of the male gender as a whole. Hiring an escort is between you and the worker, so I’m not about to pass judgement. Also just because you took testosterone for 30 min doesn’t give you an authority on how men’s bodies operate. Maybe look inwards and stay in your lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:30 PM
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And if you read said book, you’ll find that a lot of his other research is much less favorable towards women and LtRs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:27 PM
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The deflection to blaming the algo is such a cheap straw man that it basically means nothing anymore. The fact is he observed these things in the wild and acknowledges that they are reflected and or stemmed from the overall algo, not just his personal one. Or do you believe OP controls trends too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:06 PM
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No. What’s the point of being pretty if I can’t fuck it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:44 PM
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Strong disagree. Atleast for me, when I was young I was focused on trying to build a life with a partner. This is supposedly during the time the women were at their “peak” in terms of beauty which we know is highly valued among men. Now that I’m in my thirties and established, im MUCH less interested in long term commitment because atp I’ve already built that life, and I value the freedom I didn’t have when I was partnered in my twenties. So atleast to me the assertion feels a lot more environme…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:59 PM
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Trash
/r/MensRights02/10/25 12:45 PM

That’s because men’s default nature is utilitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:54 PM
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I have learned something new today ☝🏾 I had typed out something about speculation, persistent language, and culture. And even the utilitarian aspect of dogs. But I can absolutely see women as being integral in treating dogs as people and community. I’m not gunna speculate if they feared men because the data doesn’t say anything that. https://wildearth.com/blogs/dog-knowledge/the-historical-role-of-women-in-the-domestication-of-dogs?srsltid=AfmBOooxz-B5WlpU8LEIpsrEk-1X7P4ciUmESqj1dDdxBY3v5lTY65oz
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:42 AM
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Women got their own totem animal, cats. You just don’t like men having things prescribed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:28 AM

The women in here doing a WHOLE not to say “because it hurts their ego”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:33 PM
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Yeah but they’re MANS best friend
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:06 PM
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A dog obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:59 AM
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I was sexually assaulted earlier this year while on vacation by an older woman who was accompanied by her husband. She grabbed my ass during a group hike/excursion. We had had no communication prior, and it wasn’t an accident. The husband said nothing, I wonder if she told him she was going to do it beforehand. I didn’t make a massive scene because we were in the middle of the jungle, and let’s be honest. The tour guides weren’t equipped for that kind of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:07 AM
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While you are right, there IS something to be said about women breaking up/ divorcing their partners behind others in their friend group. Hell there’s even a term for it: divorce contagion. Edit: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2013/10/21/is-divorce-contagious/ I don’t think it’s insane for dudes to be anxious about this. I don’t think the solution is being controlling, but gaslighting isn’t appropriate either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:22 PM
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Plausible deniability has been a woman’s best friend since the stone ages
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:19 PM

Slippery slope there Jethro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:17 PM
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Grow up, and focus on yourself. Shit ain’t candy and popcorn out here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:38 PM
0

Be an adult, wear protection
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:27 PM

Honestly as someone that’s single I’ve often felt the same as OP. I know it’s a personal agreement between me and my partner, but it makes my autonomy feel SOO much less strenuous when you don’t have a digital warden attached to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:12 AM
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Then their support of the gender swapped situation is only because they don’t know men who have been traumatized by older women? Mind you there are ALOT more pedophile women than society gives them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:42 PM
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My point is you’re wrong. There is a price for pussy, it’s about $300. And it ain’t that heavy depending on your means
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:20 PM
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Only people that use lines are people new to the game, and for novelty most times. There are no magic “lines” that get you sex. So the answer is overall, no
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:36 PM
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She gave Tyrone anal, and I’ve been paying this chicks rent for 3 months and all I get are dry handjobs ☹️ P.S: I’m Tyrone in this example
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:30 PM
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Gave up before they even tried
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:34 AM
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7 figures, next question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:37 PM
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It always kills me how OP stops replying as soon as the data doesn’t support their assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:10 PM
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Actually the price of pussy averages about $70 outside of the country and $300 in the states. So yeah, capitalism and the free market have proven you wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:08 PM

But it doesn’t count if I’m banging uggos
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:40 AM
1

Paul Dolan’s book basically said the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:59 AM
9

Women are programmed for serial monogamy, not lifelong monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:55 AM
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Seriously I feel like we keep coming back here. As I improved, my prospects improved, more women became interested. When interest is on you, then whether you want a relationship or not is also up to you. Don’t be a dick, make sure it’s mutually beneficial and viola.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:09 PM
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Not supporting whoremongering at all, but if you think foreign prostitutes are ugly… I assure you they are not lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:30 PM
2

Not a lot of married millennials
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:16 PM
1

Survival of the fittest. Keep ya girl away from Chad and Tyrone 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:56 PM
5

Not good enough, we’re still getting divorced in droves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:31 PM
1

Communism has entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:16 AM
1

Imagine being tethered to another adult for survival. Couldn’t be me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:41 PM

All of this to make excuses for not just accepting those foundational truths and creating a paradigm around them. Instead of whatever the fuck our current version of monogamy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:32 PM

I think he would have been open to dating a 34 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:29 PM
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It’s hard to not be jealous of someone living in excess when you’re in squalor. And that’s speaking from someone who doesn’t have issues with women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:06 PM

I read somewhere that the best measure of your rating is the average rating of all the people you’ve slept with. Not a flawless model, but definitely something to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:11 PM

This is largely false. In case you didn’t know there’s a massive competitive market for keeping men amongst women. Especially average ones. And they use this market to show off to other women about how handsome/devoted/rich he is to their peers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:39 PM
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Anyone that’s actually seen a Chad in action of course would be bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:31 PM
-4

Is that not the basis for any relationship? Granted Chad isn’t a raging fascist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:51 PM
17

Hugh Hefner was very attractive when he founded PB. Wilt chamberlain was a world renown basketball player Khan.. raped and pillaged. Cmon
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:00 PM
2

This is factually incorrect. There are tons of women who will have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:58 AM
2

Only difference is they’re more insecure about being feminine so they do less feminine adjacent things in protest
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:39 AM
26

Because the accuser came out and said it was consensual
/r/MensRights01/08/25 03:56 PM
3

😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:16 PM
13

Right? I was in agreement until OP said that nonsense. MeToo, suppressing men’s nature? Gtfo with that nonsense. Someone needs to be resocialized. MeToo was about women sharing collective experiences over getting sexually harassed/assaulted at work and basically having to suck literal (or metaphorical) dick in order to advance in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:19 PM

HoeFax*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:02 AM
2

Doesn’t matter, still smashed 👍🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:22 AM
3

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:21 PM
1

Stop living your lives based on what men want/say and you’ll be much happier. Remember single unmarried women are the happiest demographic of people - (lmao)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:44 PM
4

“Still hit” remains undefeated
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:22 PM
2

Oh yeah, the price of a cup of coffee to see her asshole. Really valuable OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:52 PM
1

Federally women can not lose their jobs over pregnancies or menopause, but the false equivalency is strong. Women love to bring up the safety aspect of Tea but the reality is the tools that exist to look up peoples criminal history/background check already exist. That’s not the primary use of the app and it’s frankly a flat lie to suggest it is. It’s a gossip app. There’s a reason Facebook, IG and etc have tools to prevent mentions and control what people can say about you. You don’t seem to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:24 AM
1

I just said I don’t have to lose my job to want to protect my intimate integrity from the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:07 AM

By sleeping you must mean Dead 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:01 PM
0

Women en masse are ok. Your mother is amazing (hopefully)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:06 PM
24

Are they getting fucked over? Or are they getting fucked, and now it’s over?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:34 PM
1

Why are you so dedicated for advocating or doing damage control, for an app created with the specific intention of doxxing men? The safety reasoning is by all means flimsy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:23 PM
1

Just because information is public doesn’t mean it’s not doxing: Doxing (or doxxing) is the action or process of collecting and disseminating someone’s personal information in order to shame, embarrass, expose or intimidate them. This information can come from private sources but is often obtained from public records. The term derives from the phrase “dropping dox (documents)” and describes a tactic that has evolved into a form of online harassment that can escalate into stalking or other crimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:11 PM
1

Yeah no, I don’t have to lose my job to not want my dating history publicized to strangers through pictures, accounts, or the like. Imagine if men had a public platform to publicize about every time you had BV?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:43 PM
1

Ok, and I’m saying: You don’t have to DO anything to get out on there because the simple act of searching to SEE if you’re on there will create the fingerprint
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:41 PM
4

Thank you, nonetheless kind internet stranger. Your commitment to spreading love is commendable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:06 AM
8

I think it’s less about minimizing problems and more about using that vulnerability as ammunition in disagreements that occur later down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:38 AM
3

Yeah, I don’t care. And the fact that it’s unmoderated, encourages doxing, and is used to build a public intimate profile of someone behind their back is too much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:36 AM
21

I’ve had a lot of women press me for information or feelings, only to turn around and get upset at what I gave them later on. Information I wouldn’t have freely shared without the nagging. So idk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:54 AM
4

Yet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:42 AM
2

This is largely untrue, you don’t have to be doing anything for someone to post your information in hopes of searching for gossip on you. It doesn’t matter whether they don’t find anything, your information is already out and sorted for other people to view, comment on, and track. At BEST it’s a low level stalking platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:42 AM
3

Best part is you don’t have to be an abuser to get posted. Anyone with a desire to snoop can post this guy. I’ve been thinking about just posting my friends who don’t think this is an issue just to see how they like it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:40 AM
4

Doxing (or doxxing) is the action or process of collecting and disseminating someone’s personal information in order to shame, embarrass, expose or intimidate them. This information can come from private sources but is often obtained from public records. The term derives from the phrase “dropping dox (documents)” and describes a tactic that has evolved into a form of online harassment that can escalate into stalking or other criminal conduct https://www.cuny.edu/about/administration/offices/tran…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:36 AM
0

Idk what you’re talking about Pizza takes the mindful kneading of dough and conscious incorporation of flavors. Tacos are for simple people that just throw shit into a pre-formed shell, and are lazy with no class /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:35 PM

You’re suggesting stopping the one form of attraction where I actually have pure agency to select someone that I want? Yeah, I’m going to “resent it”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:02 PM
-1

Detail oriented = anxious ocd mess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:24 PM

No no, I said that I’m currently not dating at all. But otherwise it’s a combination of all four, random app matches, cold approaching women while I’m out, women approaching themselves, or acquaintances that warm up to trying something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:55 AM

Why not? I get to pick the caliber of women I want and if I can charm them I can start to build rapport. If I go out once a weekend that’s one approach a night, and frankly my hit rate is high enough because I’m charming and know how to screen if a woman is interested before I even open my mouth. It’s not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:32 AM
4

Disregard females, acquire currency
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:41 PM
7

Holy shit, I’ve found my people. Yes hyper-independence and development of domestic skills as a man will quickly put into perspective what women bring to your life outside of sex. That doesn’t mean be a dick to them. Your friend is an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:37 PM
1

Zero, I’m not interested in dating at the moment. But when I was active maybe once a month depending on whether you count talking to strangers in already social environments (like the bar) and in that case 3-4 times a month
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:24 PM
1

Well fucking put
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:09 PM
10

Wym?
/r/MensRights24/07/25 04:00 AM
2

None. Mostly because I’ve hit the point where I’ve got more options than I can handle and the idea of mentally trying to add another woman to that roster atp wouldn’t be fair to her or myself. But if I saw someone that I felt particularly strongly about I’d shoot my shot for the sake of it. Back before I was saturated? Maybe once or twice a season? Btw are we counting inside already social spaces like bars/lounges? Because if so then that number shoots up to probably about 2-3 times a month
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:05 PM
1

Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:08 PM
1

You need to find a balance between being flirty and sexual and being a normal multi-dimensional human being with all (single) women in your sphere of influence. You should be able to flip it on and off, and keep them on their toes for when it could go either way. Being hot helps too, but this is a skill of its own. Think of it the opposite of when a girl is friendly / flirty, vs when she’s only cordial. Also no amount of “good guy tokens” will get you pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:36 PM
6

What? How did you get that from my response? Of course the grifters selling courses and bullshit benefit the most, but my point is that RP started as a subreddit with a FAQ and text-guides, much like any fitness sub, before it was quarantined and nuked. Afterwards the lack of a “homebase” caused the narrative to get muddied and confused
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:21 PM
5

That lack of empathy is what is literally causing the degradation of our social ties you know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:18 PM
9

To your last point, I was extremely surprised at the visceral upset reaction that I got from women (and to a lesser extent, men) when I told them that I was thinking about celibacy over committing to a relationship. They found idea that a (decent) man could find content and happiness without being attached to a woman was insulting and something that had to be changed It made it, clear that a lot of the entitlement that men get accused of is alive and well in women, but only for “desirable” men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:17 PM
4

This is correct. Makes me wonder how long you’ve been around because the RP of today is way different from the RP of 2017. Ah nvm, you’re part of RPW. I’m surprised they even still exist tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:08 PM
3

RP largely doesn’t exist in the same format that it used to. Honestly because Reddit nuked the subreddit which caused people to flock to influencers to take up the mantle, which is where shit got real sketchy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:57 PM
13

Moreover, males in general place far too much value on sex. Men should know, instinctively, that not all of them are worthy to procreate with. You surely not expect any human being with a shred of self esteem to believe this about themselves. It’s almost gross you’d say it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:49 PM
16

This isn’t true, just a quick look at the fitness subs/Tinder subs show how starved these men have become for dating prospects. And on the other hand the situation OP described is absolutely the other side of the fence (my personal reality) which makes me think “so what” The difference is dating apps have become the SOLE method of securing a relationship for most due to how inappropriate it has become to approach each other in public (outside of the bar)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:46 PM
2

Oh trust. I’m not concerned. It’s just the way it comes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:30 AM
7

Just because a dude cold approached you doesn’t mean he goes smack at every pretty girl he sees. Maybe that’s true when you’re 21 and at your first bar, but any troglodyte with a semblance of social skills doesn’t bother to expose themselves to that much rejection. Honestly this reads as a girl that has poor self esteem self soothing to say any dude that introduces himself to her is up to no good. Hell sometimes I speak to women with no ulterior motive just because the weather is nice. It’s best…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:23 AM
3

I’m confused. You self inserted into my comment about women not being worth the squeeze to say what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:20 AM
4

That’s ALOT of front loaded presumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:07 AM
3

Yes. I realized my peace was more valuable to me than you are. But somehow I still end up having to hear yall moan 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:53 AM
1

You are in fact, not focusing on yourself sis. Can’t save em all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:09 PM
1

I’m not complaining because it doesn’t affect me. I still get laid and I’m hard pressed to commit. I used to be one of those trad boys and I committed enough times to be over it. Focus on yourself sis Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:06 PM
1

Honestly who cares? Let them figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:47 PM
1

It sounds like those girls should either get with the program, or get used to being undesirable and join the percentage of the population that will not reproduce 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:43 PM
2

Jokes on them, I live alone and have a dishwasher/washing machine. I can do my own chores/ cook better than them. Challenge: don’t add additional stress to my life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:33 PM
9

Or rather you realize most women are not worth the investment you put in yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:21 PM
1

Ok, but men want the same thing, and it’s evidenced right now that women are bringing insecurity, headaches, and fragility. They also don’t want the losers who would worship the ground they walk on. They want the dudes that have it together, who are focused on peace. These dudes have great fulfilling single lives without a primary relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:27 PM
3

Phew you hit the nail on the head. I know a lot of my heartburn around modern dating is how much of it seems to be performative for our (women in particular) peers. If being forced to choose between solitary peace, and unappreciated romantic theater, I’m going to choose the former. Every time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:24 PM

Everybody’s in it for themselves 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:25 AM

But when men feel the same way and cheat, we’re monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:20 AM
2

There is no context in which you refer to a man as a princess and not use it to emasculate him. With a caveat for a flamboyant homosexual by his peers. Full stop
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:04 PM
2

She’s not talking about men taking a passive role in dating though. The princess schtick is a reaction to men saying they want women to take a step towards the center when it comes to courtship rituals. Nobody’s expecting them to do all the driving, just plan a date once and a while
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:53 PM
1

Best place to ask is the workout subs… start with their FAQ page
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/25 08:10 PM
1

So what? That word in this context is still meant to emasculate. Regardless of who started it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:53 PM
5

Shit I refuse to have my romantic destiny lie solely in the hands of my social group. But also people meet and ask out strangers all the time depending on the level of normalized interaction of the space. (Like at the bar)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:13 PM
2

I think if you’re not actively pursuing intimacy with this girl she’s going to think you’re not interested and lose interest. I say that to mean, even if you don’t want to make sex, make sure you’re still making it obvious you’re sexually into her. Also don’t let her get ahead of you, where you have to turn her down. Getting denied after getting her hot is basically a death sentence for female attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:28 PM
7

The context in this conversation though is just being valued as partners. OP is referring to men wanting to be (atleast minimally) courted. Which is funny because they’re not expecting flowers or gifts, but rather basic consideration while dating. If we’re on the third date, maybe she take the lead and make a suggestion on an activity, or buy a dinner every so often. I think dating in general is starting to seem like a unnecessary burden for a lot of (normal) men and they’re looking for their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:31 PM
3

The connotation for prince/princess is being the prize and or royalty. Princes just like princesses can have the snobby/stuck up/ snooty connotation that anyone in royalty has. The difference does seem to be that a prince is expected create an active role in going and finding a wife. Whereas a princess is expected to be sheltered until she’s discovered. Methinks the men are just not into being devalued as partners especially considering marriage and everything afterwards seems largely focused on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:24 PM
13

Absolutely not. Nope. Especially when there’s already a gendered term for a male princess. Princes are just as stereotypically pampered and stuck up as their female counterpart, so why not call them that? It’s because it’s meant to be an attack. Miss me with the false flag bs. Btw pillow princess was originally a term specifically for women, who don’t put in the effort in bed, before it was co-opted by the gay community. I’m not obtuse, don’t play me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:18 PM
11

Calling men “princess” is a direct and obvious attack on masculinity meant to emasculate. If you didn’t feel this way you’d call it a “prince” era, but that doesn’t satisfy OP’s ego
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:55 PM
-1

Lmao, look. If you can’t not be both, then pick one you can control and handle that. Everyone ages, but being fat is a choice. Truth hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:01 AM
0

How about don’t be fat and old?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:50 PM
1

Coming from a relatively successful poly-ish man, ENM doesn’t solve the issues. Rather it just changes the terms of what you agree will terminate the relationship. But stability is what’s really needed to build emotional growth, something that ENM doesn’t provide (outside of swingers)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:19 PM
1

I mean I’ve seen chicks trip foot over ass to get a tallish white dude that plays INTRAMURAL at best. I’ve also seen girls promise to meet their bf at another bar send him off, only to be sobbing down the college football player that popped in the club 30 min after he left. I’ve also seen dudes hang on the whims of a baddie for years after who showed him interest once a decade prior. Not all “mate value” (or whatever) for men has to be earned. But it doesn’t really matter because women are gunna…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:10 PM

Older men are WAAAY more prone to situationships after being young, naive, and burned by those women went on to “upgrade”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:03 PM
1

Just because you haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean that I’m making it up. Why do you think those girls go to Spain/Costa Rica/Etc for vacation dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:00 PM
0

It’s not difficult that’s the point. You literally just have to find Brad Pitt (or whoever) at the bar alone and be the first one to throw it at him. Bat your eyelashes, be forward, and a little charming. There’s no challenge or accomplishment in it, other than bragging rights when you see them do their thing on tv later. The challenge is getting knocked up and leveraging that into a lifestyle change. Not in casual sex lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:51 PM
1

Women can’t get free from sexual power dynamics lmao. By fucking celebrities you’re just REINFORCING that dudes need to be chad to (s)lay the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:48 PM
1

That’s not true. Dorks very much get salty and jealous when the football player starts banging his crush, despite taking her on several dates to qualify for a cold shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:47 PM
1

Maybe they’re not being honest with you? American women (or western women) with Latino lovers is a trope as old as White dudes and Asian wives. Albeit these women often have short term, passionate flings with these men (think summer vacation romance) but it still tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:45 PM
1

I think the assumption that the only men frustrated are those that can’t get women is a misnomer. Personally I’ve seen enough catty, childish, backstabbing, self-serving behavior from all sorts of women through the years that I find it hard to trust any of them. Modeled first in caretakers, and then reinforced through peers. Idk, when you’ve seen the true nature it’s hard to unsee it, so you really start to lower your expectations. I’m sure women are familiar with the same from watching us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:30 PM
6

Happy to hear this, because that line in particular made me side eye hard as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:58 PM
2

Never had palak paneer, but I’ve suddenly got a craving for garlic naan like nobody’s business. Ty for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:08 PM
5

Wild because you’re absolutely missing out. Tartare is absolutely where it’s at. But you’ll order calimari because you’re basic (Jk I love calimari too)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:58 PM
3

Not an incel, just jaded 🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:00 AM
0

I’m in this post and frankly I don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:14 PM
3

ah I see you are an expert in men too! I feel so honored to be able to talk to such wisdom man lol No problem, it’s been a while since someone’s acknowledged being in the presence of superior social knowledge. Next time be sure to donate to the gofundme. How else will we keep PPD free?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:43 PM
1

🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ people don’t like harsh truths. If it makes you feel better, all men are either cheaters or control freaks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:55 PM
-1

That’s because men who did know all women are either sluts or prudes, no in between. And they know better than to get upset at water for being wet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:47 PM
18

This is taken wildly out of context and made to make you hate her undeservedly
/r/MensRights21/06/25 10:26 PM
1

Scan for pre selection. Increases your chances tenfold
/r/seduction02/06/25 05:36 PM
1

Try not giving them reasons not to be attracted to you
/r/seduction26/05/25 04:12 PM
1

They’re more liable to fuck you on a full stomach, js
/r/seduction24/05/25 08:08 PM
1

I take women out on dinner dates as a general standard. Mostly because it’s easiest to bond over food imo. It’s expensive but I also have a 80+ hit rate. Don’t make dating more difficult than it has to be
/r/seduction24/05/25 08:00 PM
6

The quote about single women being happiest came from sociologist Paul Dolan in his book happier ever after. It caught on like wildfire around 2020 and I’m sure caused a ton of divorces. It was also debunked as being a gross misinterpretation of census data, but it was too late. He had already changed the narrative, men are bitter that this pseudo fact has been thrown around, because if you’re happiest without me then you can leave. And women while immediately empowered found that they were now …
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/25 06:26 PM
6

🤨🤨 The last thing we need is white nationalism
/r/MensRights05/03/25 02:16 AM
1

As someone who has multiple lovers at home and no need to solicit, I popped this cherry for the first time on a recent vacation. My advice is it’s not really worth it. Don’t get me wrong, having access to some of the most attractive women I’ve ever had the chance to bed was nice, and good for my ego, it still felt extremely empty and cold. Even emptier than ONS. And more expensive than a normal date, especially if they’re charging per nut. Even after warming up the SW, the speed and focus for th…
/r/seduction21/02/25 07:11 PM
35

This is clearly you lashing out OP. Are you sure it’s productive?
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/25 08:59 AM
2

Literally her second sentence states she’s a woman
/r/MensRights05/02/25 03:37 AM
1

It took me about 2 paragraphs to realize this was a grift. Good job OP, you almost had me there
/r/seduction03/02/25 06:49 PM
1

Which is unnecessary because economic independence is a given (as it should be) Why become a unit if you don’t have to to survive? Without children involved there is no meaningful answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:59 PM
0

As much as I agree with you, and I do wholeheartedly. I think it’s important to distinguish: Men’s desire for intimacy/romance with women vs the amount of time men put into their platonic (non-intimate) friendships with men. I’m dating a lot of these “better off single” women right now and it’s clear to me that they still crave intimacy/romance/novelty with a men (in general). Their girlfriends are not enough
/r/MensRights26/12/22 06:31 PM
1

Maybe that’s because to say otherwise would unravel man’s intention to pursue long term relationships with women
/r/MensRights26/12/22 06:27 PM
1

Definitely the former. That same sense of loyalty destroys women’s desire to have sex with the same man out of lack of novelty. They get bored and resent you sexually for it. Sexual novelty in women All the more reason to not marry and keep your choices abundant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:35 AM
2

The entire point of marriage was a lifelong commitment and the chance to pass on things to your chosen family once you pass. If the commitment isn’t lifelong then marriage as a institution is just a status symbol endgame for relationships that just move “forward” with no real intention of honoring that commitment. That’s not a opinion. That’s a fact, and people that say otherwise are holding onto a institution that either benefits themselves in the face of dishonesty, or haven’t seen the truth f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:31 AM
2

No it definitely means marriage is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:34 PM
5

Citation “49 Grundy, E. M. and Tomassini, C. (2010), Marital history, health and mortality among older men and women in England and Wales. BMC Public Health, 10 (1), 554.” — Happy Ever After: Escaping The Myth of The Perfect Life by Paul Dolan https://a.co/hL1KZIW
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