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0	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice.	Red Pill Theory	redfishesbluefishes	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:26 PM

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0	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Thanks again! The only thing I think I have to add here, is that it would seem to me if men who've chosen to be puerarchs liked it so much, they'd be happier about it. But there's so much anger and bitterness! The impression I get is that they feel/believe that a good relationship isn't possible or likely, so they're taking casual sex as the best option for them in a reality they dislike. While at the same time looking down on women who sleep around... often the same women who sleep with them.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 09:23 PM
0	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. I think it could come down to 3 or 4 easy steps, yes. (These would apply regardless of gender). A) Become an awesome person, inside and out. Build a life that makes you happy. Know you have value. B) Only spend your time on other awesome people who add to your happiness and quality of life, and where respect and appreciation is a two-way street. C) Walk away from drama, headgames, and bullshit. That would be a good start. As to my impression of the ideas being propagated: -that women, specifical…	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 09:18 PM
1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. I think you may be on point with that. I think perhaps the tone of bitterness and disrespect and dislike toward women in so many of the posts is what made me wonder how healthy relationships were to come of that. Of course, not everyone is looking for relationships. In any case, thanks so much for replying.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 09:04 PM
0	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. If you're not even willing to admit that those are equally bad behaviors, then that's exactly the type of men vs. women, women-blaming things I read here so much, and which are NOT helpful toward solving the problems men and women face when trying to form and have good relationships.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:47 PM
-1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. But I am those things as well; I don't expect or want him to provide for me; I don't want his money; I'm not trying to trap him; and he doesn't act 'alpha' or 'beta', he just lives his life and I live mine, and they happen to match up nicely. We don't struggle for dominance or feel any need to worry about who's dominant, because in the end we're each in charge of only our own life, and the other is there to support that.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:44 PM
-1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. My point is relationships don't NEED to be that way, and I think seeking out unfulfilling connections when there's so much more available is sad, that's all.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:39 PM
0	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. What about men who cheat on their wife? Why has he settled for someone who is not fulfilling enough for him? Why wouldn't that be as bad as a woman doing it?	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:38 PM
-2	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Not everyone is possessive. We happen not to be.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:37 PM
-1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. This is exactly where I think the mistake is. Many men seem to see relationships as this exchange of sex for money, but they also seem to resent it at the same time. I absolutely do not see relationships this way. It's a partnership. We share sex, and we share our money (there are times when my boyfriend has made more money, although currently I do)—one of us isn't buying the other. We pool everything we bring to the table, and because we both bring a lot to the table, we both get a lot out of i…	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:34 PM
-1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Yes, if it were a requirement/something he absolutely needed, because it's not something I can provide, and I will always be honest about that. He was in monogamous relationships previous to me, but they never lasted very long in part because he would feel trapped and start feeling more intense attractions to other women (probably because he knew he couldn't act on those feelings). I told him right away I was only into open relationships. I wasn't sleeping with anyone else when we first were dis…	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:32 PM
-2	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. If you research that 'pair-bonding' conception, most of the info you'll find is on right-wing, conservative "don't have sex before marriage" sites, which you have to admit are not going to be objective. This is a good article about the other side of the topic. From all I've read, that 'pair-bonding' thing is junk science.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:27 PM
-2	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. In those instances, those women shouldn't have made monogamous commitments. I truly believe people shouldn't make commitments they can't keep. EDIT: However, most stats I read say that men cheat around the same levels or higher (not that I trust stats a lot, they can always be manipulated). Wouldn't you agree damage is done to relationships by cheating, not by a specific gender?	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:22 PM
1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Thanks for taking the time to write out a thoughtful reply. Having been on OKCupid and seen my boyfriend on OKCupid, I can fully understand the frustration of women getting overloaded with messages while men fight to get a reply. Believe me, I truly hate it. Not as much as you do I'm sure, but I really do. I think that's one reason I've been successful in dating the people I wanted to date—I wasn't afraid to make a move or show my interest, which they found appealing because so often guys have t…	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:21 PM
-2	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Why can't women sleep around and follow their urges and then settle down later, as long as while sleeping around and following their whims they don't get pregnant or get any diseases?	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:09 PM
-3	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. There are certainly differences between the genders, although individuals vary widely, and men AND women on the outside ends of the spectrum who don't conform to gender norms shouldn't be shamed or abused for it. If being in a relationship where there's a male breadwinner/provider role and a female nurturer/homemaker role is what makes both people happy, I don't find that threatening or unpleasant. My parents have a very good relationship that I would say fits that dynamic. Anyone who wants it s…	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 08:05 PM
-4	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. I don't agree with you. Some men don't want their girlfriends to be able to sleep with other people—and that's fine; some are okay with it—and that's fine too. It's not for everyone.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:53 PM
-3	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Well, considering I'm the one who wanted to be in the open relationship... and had only been in open relationships before while he'd been in monogamous ones (though felt they were lacking)... But yeah, I love him too! : )	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:52 PM
-4	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. Thanks! I do. : )	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:50 PM
-1	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. I'm glad to hear it's working for you. And believe me, I am in favor of everything that makes men (AND women) realize that confidence and being an awesome person (fit, goal-driven, intelligent, happy) are the ways to go to attract an awesome partner. I just don't buy into putting women down as a way to be awesome. I think a really awesome man (who's straight, of course) will want a truly awesome woman at his side.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:49 PM
-6	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. There's a lot more than that in this subreddit though. At the top of the subreddit 'the intelligence of a woman is inversely proportional to her looks' is linked prominently. That's got nothing to do with a best strategy for getting and keeping a woman! And it IS representative of a good amount of stuff in this forum. I think what gets to me is that a lot of what I read on this subreddit implies there is no such thing as a healthy, happy, fulfilling relationship, and so it's all about trying to …	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:47 PM
-3	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. At the end of the day, if you guys are happy too, and your partners, then I have no issue with it either and say good for you too. It's true my story is anecdotal, and I'd welcome anecdotal stories from you guys about how you have found a healthy, happy, fulfilling relationship out of your philosophy.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:40 PM
-3	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. You're very classy.	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:36 PM
-7	Why I think Red Pill does relationships a disservice. I don't think open relationships are for everyone (or even most). I think monogamy is great if that's what the two people want. But monogamous or not, I don't think the kind of rhetoric I read in this subreddit is productive. There's a lot of woman-bashing and putting women down, and a lot of talk about how love isn't real, and how women just use their looks to get a guy to take care of them. If those are the kinds of women you're hanging around, you should concentrate on finding some different …	/r/TheRedPill	21/07/13 07:35 PM