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man this is great but I find the texting stuff to be so high risk. One wrong move or text she didn't like and she dips forever. I get way more consistent results by forgetting about the pull straight home, do minimal texting and just meet her at a bar close to my house. 2 drinks and we go home. Obviously if you can pull it off that's great though lol
/r/seduction08/12/24 04:51 PM
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yeah mb that's what I meant by "loser" - the nice guy who will commit easily and just likes her and will always be there and treat her well. Nothing destroys attraction like the above frame, you have to be the sexually dangerous ultra dom sex god who's out there giving women the dick down experience of a lifetime and who sees her as mostly expendable BUT with a tiny hint of "but maybe she can tame me bcs she's so special" lolol
/r/seduction05/12/24 05:00 PM
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lol so true, it's honestly pretty fucked up. It's like I can have any girl I want just so long as I don't like her that much, as soon as I actually like her she can smell it and thinks I'm a needy loser lol rip
/r/seduction05/12/24 03:48 PM
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when a girl gives a logical objection to something I'm convinced that doing logical problem solving will help things. It doesn't lol
/r/seduction05/12/24 02:30 PM
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yea that's what I just told you lol
/r/seduction02/12/24 02:56 PM
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when you get a date rejection like that never ever EVER immediately respond with an alternate date suggestion. Just say no worries then reopen her a few days later and try again once you have a good conversation going. This is almost certainly a rip. If you insist on trying again, just try open a conversation first and see if she's responsive
/r/seduction02/12/24 02:48 PM
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the dude is promoting his coaching, including that detail makes it a bigger win and so makes him look like a more impressive coach. It's obvious why he would include the detail, cop on
/r/seduction01/12/24 09:23 PM
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Not at all, I usually seed the date within like 3 texts and soft close + number close within 5-7 texts
/r/seduction29/11/24 12:43 AM
1

do girls seriously tell you straight up "I want a hookup" ? I've never heard that once EVER, they always say something coy like "fun dates and see where it goes" etc
/r/seduction27/11/24 11:17 PM
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lol it's ok my guy, glad you're having fun
/r/seduction24/11/24 03:23 PM
15

is this satire, I hope so
/r/seduction24/11/24 03:15 PM
1

wdym "sets expectations and can lead to disappointment" ?
/r/seduction10/11/24 10:27 PM
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it's not important in the context of the post
/r/seduction10/11/24 07:56 PM
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Much the same dog, 13 since Nov 23 when I started trying to learn game, almost twice my lifetime laycount from before that. At the start I was just trying to get some action, now much like you my relationship with it has changed. I feel like I'm largely treading water and having fun till I find the right gal that I actually want to commit to. There's also the skill development aspect of just trying to get as smooth and good as possible so that when I do meet the perfect gal i can actually land h…
/r/seduction10/11/24 07:46 PM
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> but I don't like hiding your intentions or tricking someone into a situationship. I don't do this fwiw, first date it's very rare to talk about "what are we looking for" type stuff. A good few of the girls that dipped on me explicitly were not looking for a relationship also
/r/seduction10/11/24 07:32 PM
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alright thanks bro, will do
/r/seduction10/11/24 01:34 PM
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idk man I feel like there's a real danger here of sending her into a shame-spiral and triggering an anti-slut defence. I'm not at all convinced that you really want her to be wondering if she got used for a merciless pump n dump. How do you run this anyway? when will you hit her up after the lay?
/r/seduction10/11/24 01:28 PM
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Can you explain your reasoning? I've been told the opposite, that it's easier to make future plans when you're together and she's still high af on oxytocin vs a getting some characters on her phone screen a week later.
/r/seduction10/11/24 01:17 PM
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sorry bro but you didn't. You came with a logical expectation for sex that night and you were pushy with your escalations (i.e., failing to read or react appropriately to how she was responding) to the point that she felt she had to call it out explicitly. You fucked up, and I was honestly surprised to hear she's still entertaining you after that. No worries, we all make mistakes, but don't fool yourself that you're already implementing a smooth escalation approach.
/r/seduction09/11/24 04:36 PM
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Don't confront her on it. Just continue as normal and keep smoothly escalating where appropriate (i.e., when you're alone somewhere you can have sex etc). Make her feel wanted but show that when she pulls back it's not a big deal and you are completely chill - showing signs of anger or entitlement as a reaction will destroy your chances. Keep up the loop escalating smoothly then backing off when she shows it's going too far, then repeating a bit later, and if she still won't budge after some tim…
/r/seduction09/11/24 04:29 PM
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should have told her ahead of time "nothing's going to happen tonight btw, I'm not that easy". She could sense your expectation and anticipation and it made her feel pressure, which is stressful and a major turn-off.
/r/seduction09/11/24 04:22 PM
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if you can get yourself into the top 10% of profiles you'll have a great time. Below that and you're either gonna struggle to get matches or you'll be getting girls below your standard
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:51 PM
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I go on dates from OLD all the time. You do get quite a few flakes (actually got full on stood up last Sunday lol rip) but far from 9/10 ime
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:43 PM
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she replied bro
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:36 PM
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yeah she replied eventually and all good set for friday It wasn't days though, we texted on Monday and confirmed plans, then where just chatting a bit. I went to bed and then texted her again today on Wednesday. So it was just one day, and it seemed pretty weird to me to assume that plans were cancelled just bcs you don't hear from the person for one day
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:35 PM
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My interpretation there was that she was really just pissy about me not texting her back for a day (my country's culture is very passive aggressive). She didn't really think that I had dipped, she just wanted to moan about me not texting her for a day
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:26 PM
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call her bro, phone calls are killer. I just got my girl confirmed for a date monday. Here's what I did: texted her this evening "saw something weird today that reminded me of you" she replies "oh really?? what was it??" and then I immediately call. Just do some small talk, tell my story (which I made up, but whatever lol), and re-seduce her a bit, then ask her when she's free and schedule the date for monday.
/r/seduction24/10/24 08:04 PM
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so I totally get that it looks that way from the basic context, but I reviewed all the texting in this case with a (v experienced) pal and it was clear to both of us that she was genuine and I just had some bad luck. I mulled it over and here's what I'm gonna do: I'll bait her with a text like "saw something crazy today that made me think of you", then as soon as she replies I'll call her, then basically re-seduce her from scratch and arrange a date.
/r/seduction24/10/24 09:24 AM
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not bad man, thanks
/r/seduction23/10/24 11:51 PM
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So on a technical note "preselection" is generally her getting some explicit, overt confirmation that other women are attracted to you. So like seeing you making out with another woman, hearing stories about past sexual encounters, seeing women in public checking you out. Stuff like that. So when you're in-set and trying to show her that you're high-value and that other women want you, this isn't really to do with preselection, it's just game. So reallly what you're asking is "how do I learn inn…
/r/seduction23/10/24 11:43 PM
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Do a few messages of banter first
/r/seduction07/10/24 09:08 PM
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I have a similar pattern, though not as extreme as this. You probably have a dismissive-avoidant attachment style, you have childhood trauma and it leads you to "dismiss" people at the first sign of trouble or unpredictability as a self-defence mechanism - better dump them early then get your heart broken later. You need therapy dog, and likely a lot of it. Good on you for identifying the pattern and problem, that's a good sign that you may actually be ready to tackle this head on. Heidi Priebe …
/r/seduction03/10/24 01:19 PM
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tbf I wouldn't say sorry for 5mins late, but round my way it's commonly understood that there's a 10min window where you're not really late. Anything past that window, you're late, you need to tell the person, and you should apologise. It's such a minor thing anyway bro, whether or not you add a "sorry" to "I'm gonna be 10mins late" is never gonna determine if you get laid
/r/seduction22/09/24 11:39 PM
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It would be weird not to, that's just basic social skills
/r/seduction22/09/24 11:04 PM
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I say sorry
/r/seduction22/09/24 10:13 PM
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If I think a girl might flake I text her two hours before saying that I'm gonna be 15mins late, she replies saying "no problem see you then" and I've got my confirmation without looking insecure
/r/seduction21/09/24 05:43 PM
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simple: they enjoy the validation of having a guy chase after them, it's not hard to understand. You don't have to like it but it's a lot better to accept it than to get salty that reality isn't different
/r/seduction14/09/24 02:25 PM
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I've yet to have a girl who behaves like this not completely crack and turn into a sweetheart after a few dates, but yeah for sure if it continues you'd want to be giving an ultimatum eventually
/r/seduction25/08/24 03:15 PM
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Maintain frame, no matter what kinda girl you always maintain frame. Non-reactivity; show her that you're a stalwart bastion that repels her waves of shit-tests and tantrums with ease. These gals are like bloodhounds for weakness. A tone and frame like "it's actually really cute that you think your bullshit can cause an emotional reaction in me" has served me well.
/r/seduction24/08/24 03:58 PM
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I think I usually get there by way of a little trip round "connection". edit: lol ok fellas I'll try edit in some more detail to the above comment tmw
/r/seduction23/08/24 10:57 PM
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One I'm getting a lot of mileage out of lately is a topic escalation like: travel -> adventurousness -> openness to experience/spontaneity -> intimacy
/r/seduction23/08/24 04:26 PM
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more of an "ayy luv show us ur tits" man myself, but game recognises game
/r/seduction23/08/24 04:25 PM
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Your inability to comprehend the idea that people can have busy lives is both hilarious and a bit sad. All the best
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:36 PM
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bro you said "move on" lmao You were clearly saying that it's a wash bcs she isn't interested, is bullshitting him, and that he should cut his losses. At least take responsibility for your own assertion. It's ok to be wrong, but don't try and weasel your way out of taking ownership.
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:31 PM
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See my other comment in the thread where I have a situation that directly refutes your assertion. It can mean she's not interested, but it doesn't necessarily mean she's not interested. Why is it so hard to fathom that people can have busy lives?
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:28 PM
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No, it doesn't, sometimes people are just busy.
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:25 PM
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Your text game is just bad. If a girl really is interested but just isn't free for some time you should absolutely be able to keep her warm through minimal texting (like 1-2 messages per day max). I had this exact situation recently. Matched with a girl at the end of June on tinder, took my time getting the number bcs she was giving me problems, then eventually get the number and she says she's not for another month and a half due to college exams. I kept her warm exchanging 1 text every other d…
/r/seduction21/08/24 06:23 PM
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Great work on healing your attachment style! Going from a 10 to a 5 is no joke, well done. These are big questions you're asking, I'm not sure I can get into them all in this comment. Did you mean with regard to avoidant/anxious dynamics, or just in general? I think in theory I'd like to have the whole shebang with marriage and kids, but not anytime soon (I'm 30). I only started learning game since my breakup last year (the one I mentioned above), so rn I'm quite content to just enjoy having abu…
/r/seduction21/08/24 11:43 AM
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Agree not to go too heavy on the make out but it can be used to build extra sexual tension. Small kisses on the lips, a little kiss on the neck, whisper in her ear, play with her hair while she talks, put an arm around her and rub her shoulder. Always be the one to pull away first
/r/seduction20/08/24 04:37 PM
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you are going to have a very difficult time pulling attractive women by leading with "relationship hungry", you seem like a good dude but it just hits as needy and desperate. Girls want to have fun and they want to feel like THEY managed to bag the high-value guy who's honestly a bit out of their league for the relationship. Consider her POV: this guy doesn't even know me and already he's considering me for a relationship? He must be pretty desperate. He seems cool but deciding if I want to cons…
/r/seduction20/08/24 04:33 PM
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You mean when you text her a few days later? Them responding but then saying something about "emotional unavailability" is weird, I'd have to see some of the exchanges to say what's happening but at first blush that sounds like you're falling into a relationship-hungry or provider frame somehow. re opening over text, it doesn't matter that much imo. The strength of the interaction you had with her in person is what will make or break if she responds. Ideally you already got your number saved in …
/r/seduction20/08/24 04:16 PM
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also eye contact, I always forget to mention this one now but this is huge. At least once or twice in the date you should do some HEAVY eye contact and let them feel a taste of your masculine intensity. Highly sexualising
/r/seduction20/08/24 04:01 PM
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For girls nightlife is mostly about having a fun night and maybe enjoying a bit of male attention. I'd venture as far to say that it's basically never about finding someone for a relationship. Some girls ofc will be looking for hookups but I think most women use apps for that these days
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:58 PM
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That can be enough if the girl likes you but prob not gonna seduce a girl who's just lukewarm. Emotionally stimulating topics are good (adventurousness, spontaneity, indulgence, personal values, intimacy), you should have some high-value anecdotes and generally make high-value statements, and build active compliance (e.g., moving her from one bar to another). When escalating on kino do you make out with them? If you're doing that properly and they're responsive it should end up at a kiss every t…
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:54 PM
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Mentioned this in another thread, but for me it's women who I am not flirting with and have no interest in going out of their way to mention a boyfriend.
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:43 PM
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night game is its own beast and yeah for sure a lot of girls will be happy to vibe with you all night and then dip and never respond to your text (even if you made out), so that sounds about par for the course tbh. If I don't manage to pull them home and have sex that night my assumption is always that I won't hear from them again, even if I got the number. Having such poor results from actual dates seems like a bigger signal that you're doing something wrong. You didn't give any information abo…
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:41 PM
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yeah my last LTR was nearly 4 years and with a highly anxiously-attached woman. Though idk how much that qualifies as "successful" as ofc it ultimately didn't work out. Avoidants and anxious are drawn to each other though in some deep and unconscious way; like moths to the flame. I'd say most of the girls that I date are somewhere on the anxious spectrum, daddy issues are in particular are very common. I'm highly avoidant. Avoidants are conditioned from childhood that it's not safe to express ce…
/r/seduction19/08/24 09:40 AM
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Good info, I'm on the other side as the avoidant guy who often attracts anxious women. Anxious ppl with any sense should run for the hills when someone they're into starts being hot and cold, it will fuck you up big time.
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:34 PM
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If you have female friends who are into instagram it's definitely not necessary, but do you.
/r/seduction18/08/24 09:29 AM
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Start bugging your friends mercilessly for photos every time you meet up. Worked for me and totally worth the bit of embarrassment, real friends won't mind.
/r/seduction18/08/24 09:05 AM
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Thanks dog. It's weird bcs I mostly do have pretty good confidence now in most domains, like when I talk to a girl I genuinely expect her to like me bcs why wouldn't she? I'm a cool guy, and girls usually do like me. I think just some specific triggers that can catch me out now, like copping a few Ls in a row (not cold approach blow out, more stuff like losing a girl I slept with that I rly liked and wanted to see again). But yeah, perhaps just a matter of time. I've had success for a bit now bu…
/r/seduction17/08/24 06:15 PM
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Thanks for the warning mate. Reading your comment, I got the sense that there is some fear around where I may be headed with all this, like I'm teetering around a critical juncture and I need to be very careful that I end up on the right path. Multiple things here resonated, like the power thing.. yeah, there are large aspects that are about power and control for sure. I was beaten by my da as a boy and it made me dream of being powerful one day, and now as I man I'm into bdsm and like to domina…
/r/seduction17/08/24 02:26 PM
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I did the same man. Ended my 4 year LTR last August, resolved myself to stay away from women for a few months at least, and within a month I was under one of my new housemates... I really didn't mean for it to happen but yeah, no good, don't be like me.
/r/seduction17/08/24 02:02 PM
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read again, your comprehension has failed you.
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:43 PM
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Not every post is for everyone. We have beginners, intermediate, and advanced people around, and this space is for us all. I assume the beginners would rather the advanced dudes stick around to help them instead of fucking off to some private invite-only space. I help other people here where I can and it is entirely appropriate and in-scope for me to ask for help sometimes too.
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:36 PM
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so what? I'm not allowed to need help just because I'm not an incel? I fuckin hate the level of resentment and bitterness in these communities. We should be supporting each other and feeling happy when someone has success, not tearing each other down.
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:28 PM
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You're right. I have low self-esteem and I'm using women to bolster it.
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:25 PM
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Thanks bro. I read the article, yeah it's for sure something here. The two parts that jumped out were "self-esteem" and poor "mental toughness". I have a background of childhood trauma and social rejection, most of my teens and 20s I was very fuckin depressed and felt I was pretty worthless. It's improved a lot in recent years, to the point where consciously I mostly have positive self-talk and have become far more accustomed to getting positive reactions from people, but I think this issue is t…
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:24 PM
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sigh, so predictable. I'm having a genuine problem that I could use help with.
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:14 PM
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Yeah I think that's just what the doctor ordered, thanks bro. Truthfully I have been neglecting other parts of my life in favour of chasing tail. Quit my job a few months ago and I've effectively gone full time learning game and juggling different women. I'm not a complete loser in the rest of my life but what you wrote made me realise I really don't do that much with my free time. I don't take myself on solo dates or go out just for fun. I spent basically the entire morning today just hitting u…
/r/seduction17/08/24 11:51 AM
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ugh yeah. Kinda pathetic honestly. When I have abundance I feel like hot shit and I'm not needy, but then when that abundance feels threatened I'm suddenly scrambling to claw it back, in complete needy mindset. Most of my problems so far have been relatively easy fixes, this seems like something bigger. Maybe I should take some time off.
/r/seduction17/08/24 11:38 AM
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Do you make it have some plausible deniability at all? Or are we talking literally sending a topless gym mirror selfie with no context or relevance to the conversation?
/r/seduction17/08/24 10:07 AM
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It's just practice dog. There's a positive feedback loop like feel initial motivation -> improve your game -> get better reactions -> enjoy the interactions more -> get more motivation. The better you get, the more frequent the positive reactions become, till eventually it's consistent enough that you genuinely associate making approaches with having fun and getting positive reactions. Like, why don't you feel anxious when you see your pal in the street and are thinking about approaching? It's b…
/r/seduction17/08/24 09:54 AM
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It's probably your tone and body language communicating discomfort, you need to relax and become more entitled. The same boring statement ("god it's been so hot lately") can hit so different depending on if it's said with in a context of discomfort and neediness Vs entitlement and confidence. The vibe is that you expect her to find it interesting, because of course she will, you're a cool guy and you are accustomed to people finding your shit interesting. The notion that "this is a boring thing …
/r/seduction15/08/24 11:41 AM
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ha it was actually a girl I dated who introduced them to me, she had better game than me! But yeah for sure, for ages I thought I had to be able to generate everything on the fly each time, but there really is no harm at all in memorising some killer questions or gambits that you can whip out and apply as needed.
/r/seduction14/08/24 10:48 PM
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I've used some of these questions from the NYT study, the 36 questions to fall in love Just talk about your own shit, whatever you have going on lately. You can also make observations about the immediate environment if nothing more interesting pops into your head, you just have to lower your standard for which thoughts are "good enough" to be shared out loud. Seriously, I'll talk about the weather on coffee dates sometimes. It's fine lol
/r/seduction14/08/24 10:27 PM
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Deleting my comment, what this guy said lol
/r/seduction14/08/24 10:20 PM
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Of course she's gonna say "ok" when facing social pressure, she liked you enough to agree to plans but that doesn't mean she's willing to confront a strange man to make it happen. The easiest thing for her to do in that situation is just agree. Unless she's literally saying "wait, I just realised idgaf about our plans and I wanna go hang out with this other dude" it doesn't matter. You lead, you handle the dude, get rid of him smoothly and carry on with your plans. You would have won value in he…
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:45 PM
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"nice chatting man, we have to bounce, have a good night" You really just needed to shut him down from tagging along. Friendly, casual tone but firm, make it so that if he starts insisting he's the uncalibrated asshole. Yeah there's all sorts of stuff you could have done over the dinner to amog him but seriously fuck that. You had plans, he wasn't invited, he can take a hike.
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:18 PM
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deep deep cringe
/r/seduction14/08/24 12:44 PM
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Forget what you know from small town teenage dating. For adults in the modern dating scene sex precedes commitment. Anyway, why would you even want commitment with someone when you don't even know if you have sexual compatibility? It's kiddie stuff bro, in future go for the lay, and (as a rule of thumb) if you're not getting it by the third date take it that they've failed to properly seduce them and move on.
/r/seduction12/08/24 02:02 PM
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Did you sleep with these girls that you dated? If not, you were probably never really in the running for a relationship
/r/seduction09/08/24 01:07 PM
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imo your options are either move out and then try game as normal, or steel yourself for a likely rejection and straight-up confess. I'm in a kinda similar situation myself. imo it's unethical to try seduce someone you live with, if it goes wrong you run the risk of making them feel uncomfortable being in their own home.
/r/seduction07/08/24 02:16 AM
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It's about finding the balance dog. Personally I found the sweet spot to be masturbating around 2-3 times per week, without porn. Then I'm not going crazy but I'm also plenty motivated, and don't have to worry about performance issues. It should be used sparingly to relieve arousal, the issues begin when it starts being used constantly for a quick dopamine hit
/r/seduction06/08/24 06:46 PM
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I hear ya but it will also decrease his motivation and drive to get out there and shoot his shot
/r/seduction06/08/24 06:13 PM
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porn and (too much) masturbation are disastrous for men's sexual health. I've had times where I've barely been able to get it up with a girl bcs of too much of that, then I take a week off and sex is super stimulating and pleasurable again
/r/seduction06/08/24 04:40 PM
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my first thought too but let's hope she comes through for bro
/r/seduction05/08/24 10:53 PM
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gotcha, thanks man. I'll keep this in mind going forward, if I feel that unusually strong connection I'll delay the physical escalation instead of taking the easy pull. God knows there's plenty of girls around who I'd be happy to pull and not see again
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:30 AM
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Can you have it both ways? I try to establish the sexual connection asap with the idea that I'll get them hooked like that and then I can decide over time what kind of relationship I want with them (i.e., FWB or more). This does seem to generally work fairly well, with the notable exception of with girls that I genuinely feel a strong connection with lol rip Sounds like maybe that will get me pigeonholed as the unreliable fuckboy who she won't let herself get invested in.
/r/seduction26/07/24 10:41 AM
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Thanks man, yeah usually I'm not fussed by rejections at all. It's just these ones were I KNOW they had a great time with me, I know we had a super strong connection.. those ones hurt. tbh I need to stop naively trusting that a girl being all over me means much of anything. By the time I got the rejection text I already thought we were headed towards spending lots of time together.
/r/seduction26/07/24 09:30 AM
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It honestly wasn't my best performance but she seemed very satisfied, she thanked me twice afterwards lol
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:32 PM
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fwiw both of are from a european country
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:30 PM
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Gotcha, much appreciated 🙏 I'm still only a beginner really so lots to learn haha
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:34 AM
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hm I usually figure that after sex all those barriers are gone. Certainly touch barrier is obliterated
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:28 AM
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haha yes you got me - I definitely felt excited by how much we mutually seemed to like each other. It was a very strong first encounter, and once the pull was sealed I got giddy and let my guard down, leading to the complacent needy behaviour. rip
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:15 AM
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Interesting, I've mostly been operating under the model that if I just fuck them really well that they'll get hooked - sounds like the reality is a bit more subtle lol
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:02 AM
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Thanks man yeah this is all good stuff. I need to level up my game, I still mostly take the beginner perspective of being happy they're responding well. Didn't even occur to me to reject the hand hold
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:57 AM
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Alright will do, yeah I wasn't even thinking about that I was just focused on pulling lol usually after I sleep with a girl it feels like they get more invested and are less likely to dip
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:53 AM
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yeah for sure man just sucks bcs I did feel an unusually strong connection with her. This is now the 3rd girl this kind of thing has happened with: I feel we have an unusually strong connection, we sleep together a couple of times and they seem to be absolutely wild for me, then suddenly they drop off. All for different seemingly plausible reasons But I hear you on the wider perspective, these are good problems to be having and I'm improving my game constantly.
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:50 AM
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Thanks dog, lesson learned. I felt that I was just matching her energy but I see it now. One other thing is that my text had some sexual undertones, and it occurred to me that she may have been experiencing sub drop in addition to little sleep. So it may just have hit as very jarring with her headspace and given her an ugh response.
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:40 AM
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I had the thought of trying to reach out again in a couple of weeks, I assume that's out of the question?
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:37 AM
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Thanks for the reply. So you really think it was the afternoon text itself that bungled it? I didn't even consider that, when she replied later it hit like she's informing me of something long decided (v resolute tone, no discussion). I also felt like I played it very cool throughout our time together, I mostly felt like I was matching her escalations: her holding my hand when we walked to my house, her wanting to lean in to the bdsm elements, her suggesting the further dates. Ultimately though …
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:34 AM
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that sounds really good for a first time, great work man. Sounds like you laid it on a bit thick with the compliments and touching. Otherwise the only thing is that you should suggest the date in person, get the number with the purpose of organising that date, and then schedule it. This is much better than an aimless "can I get your number?" and then suggesting the date over text later
/r/seduction24/07/24 12:46 PM
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for the "you look like this guy I know" part, I've been responding with "lucky him eh?!" since I was teenager. Never once not got a laugh
/r/seduction29/06/24 05:32 AM
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