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I was replying to your comment "is "bunch of hate" a defining attribute when discussing ideological movements though?" MRA as an ideological movement it's not classified as hateful. MGTOW on the other hand is the radical version of MRA and you can definitely make the argument that it's hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:38 PM
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I would say radical christians, muslims, feminists, BLM, MRA or whatever movement you think of can be classified as hateful and inflammatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:22 PM
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If you visit the r/MGTOW sub and replace 'women' with let's say... black people, mexicans or another minority, wouldn't you ask yourself "what's difference between this sub and an alt-right/KKK one" or something similar? It's just a bunch of hate disguised as "going our own way".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 02:47 PM
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There has to be at least one post you read that inspired you to post your question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:44 AM
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Do you have any examples in mind of people calling 'low smv men' entitled and not deserving of sex when they vent about their problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:41 AM
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I'm not following you. Are you asking why people call incels entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:36 AM
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I'm not sure if I'm being trolled by you or not. I'm going to go with yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:54 PM
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In the abstract, they state: No overall tendency for American women to marry up was found.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:51 PM
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The study you referred to was about high-earning women which is a very small percentage of the woman population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:48 PM
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You could say "the odds are..." about a bunch of things but it turns out that it wasn't the case. One again, it's more than likely something constructed in your head. Maybe it's prejudice, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:45 PM
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You just proved my point. According to the study you provided, high-earning women want a partner on the same level but that's not every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:38 PM
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To that I would say that it's the guys insecurity about his income that drives his partner away. You might think she cares but in reality she probably doesn't. It's like being insecure about your dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:34 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:31 PM
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I'm not sure why women are often viewed as a monolithic entity. Just like men, there are all kinds of women out there. There are those who want their partners to earn the same or more than them and there are those who don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:25 PM
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Okay, but why is it wrong and evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:04 PM
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I'm not following you. What do you mean by "getting away with it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:34 PM
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Yes I did. My answer to the question was that we expect more from a relationship than ever before because women are liberated and can have high expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:59 PM
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I answered the "do women expect to much from men?" question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:57 PM
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Thanks to feminism, women no longer have have to settle for less. We make our own money now and we can find a relationship by falling in love with the person, not because we need him financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:00 PM
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Do you view every woman you see as "worthy of my time"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:51 AM
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You can change your physical looks with plastic surgery but you can't improve mentally with surgery. That's way harder and a lot more important than physical looks which unfortunately money can't buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:45 PM
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Both men and women have to work what they got. People like to preach about unity and caring about each-other, but let's keep it real. Nobody cares about other people's personal issues, so at the end of the day your fate lies in your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:34 PM
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Of course, winning the lottery by being being born with good genetics will make it easier for you in many facets of life. This isn't a revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:24 PM
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That's not true at all. Me and my friends see attractive guys all the time when we go out but we rarely want to jump in bed with them unless we have a conversation with the guy. It's all about chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:11 PM
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Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:55 PM
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Life's not fair. There will always be people who have it better than you and there'll be people who have it worse than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 05:20 PM
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I don't see how Hugh Jackman is manly and how Kim Kardashian is womanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 09:04 PM
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A manly man is a stereotype from the 1950's that's antiquated and it doesn't exist in big cities anymore because men don't need to fit that stereotype nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 09:00 PM
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There is no such thing as "alpha". It's all made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 08:45 PM
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No, I take men home with natural confidence and who can hold a conversation with me without insulting me. Women can read PUA's like a book and they go home with these pathetic men because they didn't find any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:27 PM
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Yes I do, and these guys fuck me harder and better than any PUA/Red Piller ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:22 PM
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I have read up on PUA/seduction and they tell men to use these tactics start a conversation with women. If I tell the guy to fuck off then he goes online and tells other men how women are entitled and whores. If I politely decline their advances with a smile then they think what they are doing is acceptable and they'll hop to the next woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:19 PM
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Yup, me and my friends love it when men come up to us and start a conversation by using insults to get laid. I guess we should be an adult and smile when some PUA dude come up to my friend and tell her the color of her lipstick isn't what he find sexy? Or they don't like her nail polish? Or she has too much make-up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:15 PM
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So telling people to treat women with respect is now "women are wonderful"? How exactly is negging respectful when you want to start a conversation with women? PUA's tear women down in order to lift themselves up. Seems degrading to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:56 PM
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Be my guest, go and pick up these lowlife's because they need love from their equals too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:46 PM
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Women low on the socioeconomic ladder will respond to your "game" so go and pick up women with low self esteem. Stay away from middle class women. Pathetic men from the PUA community think they are slick but me and my girlfriends can see through them immediately, especially with their "negging".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:42 PM
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I don't want some sorry sap who use PUA/Red Pill tactics to come and try to "game" my sister. Show her and other women the respect they deserve. They are human beings, not cattle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 06:37 PM
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Is there a number I call that takes me directly to the FBI? This poster seems awfully suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 06:48 PM
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No because all women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 06:43 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:11 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:06 PM
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I'm not sure what to tell you. All women are different and all women don't find the same things attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:58 PM
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I don't see what the issue is. You go where you are celebrated, not tolerated and if a certain demographic is more than likely to not find you attractive then you don't go after them. Of course only social skills won't land you an attractive woman out of your league, this is common sense. Shoot your shot with women on your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:40 PM
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I have average looking friends who are actually fun to be around and they talk to both men and women like they genuinely want to know them. I see them taking home women on weekends because their goal isn't to get laid when going out, it's first and foremost to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:22 PM
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It depends, is the guy obese or just a little overweight? Is he charismatic and charming? And I have no idea why you chose the hooters girls because they are people to and they have their own preferences. Maybe they like chubby people, maybe they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure fat women have it just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:54 PM
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Most men do not work hard to get laid, I have no idea where you got that idea from. Having problems with the opposite sex is indicative of poor social skills. Talking to women like a person is enough to get laid for most men and if you have decent social skills then it's not very hard at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:33 PM
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Earlier you called promiscuous women "the town bike" which seems awfully degrading. You wouldn't call a man that so why are you are you attributing it to only women? Seems like misogyny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:07 PM
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It's not about shaming women openly, it's about society looking down on promiscuous women and not respecting them. You hear it all time where people call these women sluts, thots, whores but men on the other hand are not given this criticism and sometimes even encouraged to go and sleep around which is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:00 PM
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The only people who are slut shaming women are the ones that's not getting any attention from women. Men who have casual sex with women don't go around and call them sluts. Well, maybe in high school. If people stopped doing that then more women would have casual sexual and less bitter men would have to resort to the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:43 PM
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OP is a troll and everyone is taking the bait lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 12:02 PM
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No, I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:33 AM
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There's no counter argument to be made. Immediately after stepping out of your house you'll see men without status or a bunch of money enjoying the company of all sorts women. You'll also see very attractive men with below average women because Instagram doesn't reflect real life. This is honestly analogous to a person saying "the earth is flat and now go ahead and change my view."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:02 AM
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OP: I'm curious, are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:32 AM
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Both men and women have one night stands with people they don't want to introduce to their friends and family. A man can find a woman attractive but he doesn't want a relationship with her because she's rude or insecure about everything. A woman can find a man attractive but she doesn't want a relationship with him because maybe he's dumb as bricks or he's manipulative and is emotionally cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:21 AM
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I haven't watched the video and I have idea who this guy is but I glossed over the comment section and I already know that whatever he's going to talk about is some backwards ass rhetoric that made sense in the 1950's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 09:01 PM
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And I say the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:27 AM
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You should view The Red Pill like any other hate group. Their ideas are outdated, it's just all around a bad idea to visit their sub because it reeks of misogyny so it's best to avoid them. They are the fringe minority that's mostly found on the internet. In a big city you might find them in bars and me and my girlfriends can easily spot them when they try to hit on us. They think they're slick but it's so transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:16 PM
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OP: I think actually interacting with people in the real world will do you much better in the long run than following a misogynistic cult led by bitter men that is The Red Pill. You'll thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 05:45 PM
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Of course she doesn't represent all women lol. Is every man like Eliot Rodger?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 01:14 PM
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OP: whatever drug you had, I want some of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 07:09 PM
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Do you see your women friends also having the same thought process as you when it comes to the whole package in men and not just the physical side of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:36 PM
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It's ironic that you said that because you come across as a bigot yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:29 AM
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They might think David Beckham is hot but they might not necessarily want to have sex with him. If the my do then it's more likely a one night stand type of thing which is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 10:41 AM
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People are complex, you can't put everyone in either the smart "beta" or dumb "beta" category, the world doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 07:03 PM
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Yes of course, you can do whatever you want sexually with other people AND be a great friend with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:09 PM
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Yeah, that's the best way of going about it because it's important to have your significant other as both best friend and a partner. I thought the other poster made it official from the beginning when they weren't friends prior to that and then waited one year without any sex which was not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 04:52 PM
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That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 04:28 PM
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We are in different times where meeting a new person is literally one swipe away on apps like Tinder and Grindr. Living in a big city and choosing to wait a year for one person seems like an archaic way of doing things because you're missing out on meeting and having sex with other great people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 04:15 PM
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If you don't have sex the first or second date, how do you know if you have sexual chemistry with the person? Waiting one year seems like an unnecessary investment if it turns out you're not compatible in bed because it's a huge part of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 04:08 PM
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No offense, but that was one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. You my friend get the donkey of the day. 🐴
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:31 PM
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If my daughter or any woman in my family came to me and told me that they're working as a cam girl, I would totally be fine with it because it's safe and there's no contact between them and the client. Them starring in porn movies on the other hand is a hard pill to swallow for most people, including feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 01:20 PM
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Lord have mercy. You scare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:02 PM
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Because it's rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:57 PM
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Feminism has not contributed to the hatred of women, how did you make this connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:24 PM
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He basically sees women as walking vaginas and not people. How is this not dehumanizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:05 PM
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We still need feminism because of comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 07:01 PM
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Are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:51 PM
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"...the researchers also found considerable overlap between men and women in brain volume and cortical thickness, just as you might find in height. In other words, just by looking at the brain scan, or height, of someone plucked at random from the study, researchers would be hard pressed to say whether it came from a man or woman. That suggests both sexes’ brains are far more similar than they are different." http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-significant-differences-brains-men-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:43 PM
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They don't have any studies that say that. Both men and women have emotions, but each is taught to deal with them differently. Each are capable of rational thought, they might just apply it differently. Again, this is probably just cultural conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:33 PM
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Is this a troll thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:54 PM
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All women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 11:46 AM
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Using "beta" and "alpha" will make everyone cringe outside of the red pill eco chamber. Maybe that should tell us that we should view the Red Pill as astrology and no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:56 PM
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The person who created that thread has a 3 hour old account. It's most likely a troll post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:25 PM
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That's a troll post. You sir, get the Donkey of the Day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 08:55 PM
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I'm not sure if your trolling or not. I'm going out on a limb and say your story doesn't check out.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/17 02:51 PM
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For the most part, both men and women want to cuddle with a body that feels like a pillow, not full of rock hard muscles. Several women friends have told me that they are grossed out by muscular guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 01:04 PM
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Sounds good to me. I presume you're attractive yourself and you're actively trying to stay that way, just like your girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:02 PM
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The topic is submissiveness, nobody said anything about being an asshole so I have no idea why you went left there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:21 PM
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I might be wrong on this, but calling your friends "Chas's" tells me that there are some jealousy or resentment issues under there. That's why I thought it might be toxic. I'm no therapist, so what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:12 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should go where you are celebrated, not tolerated. Maybe you should use dating apps. Maybe you should go solo and ask women who are attractive to you and not your Chad friends. I guess the moral of the story is that you will never get any love from the women who like your friends. Find the type of woman that likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:04 PM
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The fact that he sees 4 of 5 people as superior to him tells me that the whole group dynamic is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:48 PM
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You need to change your social circle because the only women who will approach your group are the ones that's attracted to your "Chad" friends. It's cliche but I think the saying "Don't be a sheep, be a leader" works here. Sort of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:39 PM
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I honestly believe that people who are having a hard time talking or hooking up with the opposite sex are probably timid in general and they lack confidence in life basically. You need to sort out your issues before pursuing relationships or one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:34 PM
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Here we go, another thread by SetConsumes. He doesn't want a debate, he's just seeking out other misogynists to validate his radical opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:07 PM
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Okay, if we are criticizing the women in our lives who told us that girls want a nice guy who also respects them, shouldn't we also be criticizing the Red Pill because they also spew things about girls that's not representative of every woman out there? The red pill works for a specific type of woman, just like putting girls on a pedestal and being nice to them won't work with every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:17 AM
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I'm curious, why do you think women in general don't go so far as this man did?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:23 AM
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That's the thing. The red pill is a symptom of a bigger problem. We need to find ways to help men reach out when they feel neglected or if they aren't seen by the opposite sex. It's a very important issue we have to solve because it can lead to extreme cases like the man who recently shot an elderly man and broadcasted it on Facebook live because his girlfriend cheated on him. He said that he just wanted to have someone to talk to. Yes, this is a fringe case but it still ties to some men not see…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:56 AM
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At a young age society forces the traditional masculine role in men which then conflicts with many emotions they feel and what they feel they are “allowed” to express (for example they will be shamed and will feel as if they are "not real men" if they express feelings of vulnerability, dependency needs, weaknesses, etc.). This can create enormous difficulty for men because everyone needs to feel known and valued by the others. If the the man cannot put into words their feelings about not being k…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:53 AM
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It's like teaching people who have low self esteem or those low on the socioeconomic ladder about radical Islam or Christianity. They have been so abused and oppressed by certain members of society that they want some form of revenge. It's not a good idea to throw gasoline on the fire. Also, isn't there a saying that hurt people hurt others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:37 AM
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I think a high n-count can be a good thing because she has a lot of experience in the bedroom so she will tell you exactly how get get her off in bed. Also, if she hops into a relationship with you then it can mean that she has seen in bad relationships and she sees you as someone special.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:29 AM
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Every man on the Red Pill has a different story. However, like you said each of them do have striking similarities. The main one is anger. Let's be honest, no one on the Red Pill subreddit would admit that they are simply lonely, young, or vulnerable. No to mention, they as a group are exceptionally hostile to outsiders. Just like the extreme form of feminism on Tumblr, the red pill creates an echo chamber where toxic ideas are parroted and validated. It's also important that we understand the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:52 AM
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There's pressure on women to not be seen as sluts, so it's not a surprise to me that they aren't talking about how hot some men are. You usually hear them talk about their crushes, who they slept with and whatnot If you go out for drinks with your female platonic friends. They just don't brag about it in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:57 PM
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This is not only an issue with women, men do it too. It depends on the person you are with. For example I have had male friends who cheated on their girlfriends every weekends. I heard them call their girlfriends on the phone and telling them that aren't partying at all and she shouldn't be worried. Should we say all men are like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:40 PM
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My girlfriend told me that she and her circle of friends found bad boys attractive because they were 18 and stupid and that they wised up quick. She also says girls usually deal with younger men who often value sex appeal over personality before they wise up later that both are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:26 PM
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Let's go with this analogy: if you say something publicly and it gets misinterpreted by a lot of people, isn't it fair to say that it's your fault because you didn't communicate your thoughts effectively so everyone understands exactly what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:58 AM
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Yes, in my original post I said the Red Pill sounds logical in theory but fails in practice because both genders are complex beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:39 AM
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I was alluding to Ancient Greek mythology like Stoicism, not the actual muscular guy. Sorry for being unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:26 AM
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In my experience Red Pillers start off as low-self esteem people, and work their way up the chain until they can treat people exactly like themselves like shit. There's nothing we can ever really do to get rid of RP, we just have to stay away from it and hope it doesn't fester in people you we care about. Well, actually, maybe there IS something we can do about it - help people raise their self-esteem before they resort to lowering others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:10 AM
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Basically this: http://m.imgur.com/WjtScZI
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:46 AM
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Care to explain what you mean by this? Do you mean women primarily orgasm from the clot pros because it's basically a mini penis? There are a lot of scientists beginning to think that the female orgasm is merely a cross-gender artifact from the male orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:57 AM
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I don't think people realize how many people actually turn down the "Chad". He's not getting every women he see by default. He's probably so successful because he's giving the signals and flirting with everyone at the party. You don't have to be extremely attractive to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:04 AM
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Yeah, some people might argue that heterosexual sex hasn't caught up with the times and that PIV sex is not a "modern act" because it can lead to accidental pregnancies. Yes, believe me I know this is very much a fringe topic but I guess I can see the angle they are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:13 AM
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This is very much anecdotal evidence but the women I've had sex with rarely orgasmed from PIV sex. The penetration is a lot more enjoyable for the man and they usually told me that they did it because of the intimacy. Gay men or lesbians are a good example. Lesbians for example don't always use a strap-on or a toy when having sex. This might be crazy but I honestly believe that in the future we might not have much PIV sex because we want to minimize the pregnancy variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:01 AM
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My mother is career driven and works for an ad agency and my father is a taxi driver. We are immigrants by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:29 AM
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I believe Michelle Obama was Barack Obama's boss before they started dating so he had a lower status before they got together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:25 AM
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I would say Michelle Obama for example is quite feminine but I can't imagine her accepting a red pill relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:57 AM
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Should we hate the player or the game? Should the models be ridiculed for making a living of catering to people who follow and like their posts and want to see their bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:06 PM
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Saying things like how she over did her makeup last night or how she's studying for a profession that is not formidable and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 11:01 PM
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I'm playing the game being nice to them in person and when I'm texting them I say the disrespectful and "naughty" things that some asshole would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:46 PM
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Well, every woman is not the same. There are women who are attracted to famous and rich politians, football players, reality TV stars, rappers etc. Would you want to be with these kind of people? Would be compatible? And then there are famous women like Kelly Anne Conway for example who's married to some lawyer guy who's not famous at all and she's quite successful. He's not attractive at all by the way. The way I see it is if 1 woman of 100 liked me for me, then the other 99 would not matter to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 08:54 PM
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If I was a famous person and my attractiveness approached Brad Pitt levels, I would honestly really be turned off if women approached me just because in my mind Im thinking this person would not have approached me if I wasn't famous, or the person might be shallow and only care about my looks. Naturally you would be interested in women of higher or equal status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 08:37 PM
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Okay, can you please actually bringing something to the discussion? :)
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:15 PM
0

Actually, I would argue the same thing would apply to men. But what did you not agree with?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:07 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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