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| 5 | The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true.As a woman myself I’ve observed other women making statements on how their presence should just be enough because men should do the heavy lifting. This opinion will undoubtedly get me called me a pick me but here’s my 2 cents: Effort is an important part is any relationship. Men need to feel loved too. Men are put in a spot where they have to be the pursuers, pay for every date, etc.. it should be fair to reciprocate if a man is doing those things for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 06:52 PM |
| 1 | The emergence of men who hate women on social media: why do men do this?Also, the way they judge women over 30 who are single and childless is vile. There are women who are that because they had bad luck that was out of their control. They could’ve done everything right and been in that situation. But no, to these men, those women messed up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:16 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingAnd many people become blindsided because they want a partner so bad, that they lower their self respect and take anything they can get. They could be genuinely good people, but keep on making bad decisions on who to be with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 07:26 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingIt’s everyone. There are women who hurt men, and men who hurt women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:50 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingThat too. Like I said I think it’s not just the good ones getting snatched up quickly, but it’s also people getting hurt and thinking marriage and dating may not be worth it. When the good ones are snatched up quickly it leaves the bad ones in the dating pool. Then we have this cycle of hurt people hurting others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:48 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingBut if people took the time to re-evaluate themselves, get therapy, etc.. so many of these issues we see today would not be happening. You can get hurt, and then do the work in you to heal And still be a healthy partner. The point I’m also trying to make is that people need to heal, and a lot of people don’t bother to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:47 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingThere are the guys that are like “im a nice guy I respect women!”, then don’t respect women at all. But I also think that good people tend to get taken advantage of more. Someone can be a good person, but keep on getting hurt because they have bad boundaries with themselves. They let their need for a partner cloud their judgements on others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:45 PM |
| – | CMV: The whole "traditional" lifestyle that is pushed by some red pillers looks unappealing and is counterproductive/contradictoryI’m 24F with a career and I can agree with that. When you worked so hard to get to where you are why would you give it up for something opposite? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:41 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingExactly. Good ones can be snatched up quickly. But if we as people took the time to re-examine ourselves, we wouldn’t be having many of the issues in dating that we have today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:35 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingYou hit the nail on the head with all of your points. There is often a “if they wanted to they would” mentality that people follow. While there is truth to the saying, it is being taken to the extreme. We have people who expect someone to know all their needs and wants without communication. For example, that guy who didn’t make the first move on you? he just didn’t want to, and if he wanted to he would! A lot of people really cannot distinguish between healthy and unhealthy behaviors. Love bomb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 06:12 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingSadly, showing vulnerability can be seen as “needy” these days. Some people will dip at the first sign of vulnerability. How is that even healthy for a relationship? yes don’t dump your issues on someone, but part off developing a healthy relationship is learning to be vulnerable and trusting your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 05:47 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingThey aren’t, but there’s many people who could very well be. It takes multiple experiences before one decides to give up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 05:36 PM |
| – | I think the issue with dating is not that the good people get snatched up first, but rather that they’re more likely to get hurt and give up on datingSome people can be good partners, but maybe their confidence sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 05:36 PM |
| – | Men try to demonize women for choosing to be alone because they are projecting their own insecuritiesWomen are also culturally conditioned to take a man’s BS. I’d also say that these men who complain about women’s loneliness are often the men women don’t want to begin with. A man who has a good relationship doesn’t spend his time complaining how hard men have it in dating and how women are gonna die alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 02:34 AM |
| – | Men try to demonize women for choosing to be alone because they are projecting their own insecuritiesI’ve seen this in real life. My female cousin is almost 50 and never married. She got lots of male attention, had boyfriends, and she did have insanely high high standards for a man which is likely why she’s single. BUT, she’s at least learned to be content in her situation. I have another cousin slightly older or younger. She chose not to marry, and is doing just fine. Meanwhile I have a male cousin who’s 48 and never married. He’s a mess. He wants someone to be absolutely obsessed with him. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 02:30 AM |
| 1 | The fact that so many women have a problem with a man who goes 50/50 is proof that most women just want to use men and don't actually care about them.The issue is when people equate going 50/50 with not loving someone. Think about a poor man, he may not be able to give a woman all the fancy things, but he can show effort in other ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:25 PM |
| 0 | Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall.You’re not wrong. I know good people who are healthy and single because either they don’t want to date, or they’ve been burned in the past and realize it’s not worth to be dating anymore. There’s lots of good people out there who don’t bother because people have become selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall.They can get divorced but that doesn’t mean after the divorce they can be happy. There’s still going to be an emotional burden from dealing with heartbreak. Not only that divorces are expensive they don’t always happen right away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:06 PM |
| 0 | Single women are not "the happiest demographic". In fact, married women are the happiest women overall.Plus what if the studies only chose women who they knew were going to say they were happy? People can be in denial about their situation too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/23 01:01 PM |
| 0 | What’s the reason women as a group in general seem much more angry about guys playing video games than guys being drug addicts, alcoholics and criminals?That is a good question. I think because guys who are gamers get stereotyped as lazy boyfriends. We think of them as men who don’t give us any attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 12:56 AM |
| 2 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersMy point exactly. This guy that I mention here is probably one of those. They want someone to control. Them being the sole provider feeds their ego. They’re not being the provider out of love for the woman, but to feed their own ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersI work in tech. I’ve seen many women in tech in successful relationships so I do not think men mainly care. Men mainly care if you’re a good match. Now, there are many men who do care about a woman’s career, but these are the insecure types. I had a guy string me along, then the two girlfriends he had after me both were in jobs that made significantly less than ours. This guy was deeply insecure about himself. He told me how he felt the need to act more assertive at work due to his height, and n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 11:05 PM |
| 1 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?I agree. I had this happen to me, in which he actually initiated the whole thing with me. We were never official but only had one date thank goodness. Usually these types of men tend to have other flaws as well. This guy here was a cheater so it makes sense he didn’t initiate further dates to keep things quiet. He also was insecure and lied about his height. Not only that, he used his ex to make me jealous. This guy here was just looking for entertainment. Then he left the gf after two months of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?Yeah you don’t wanna come off as too crazy. I think this approach is reasonable. Some guys need a little push to ask the woman out and that’s okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 10:07 PM |
| 3 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?Stories like yours really make me think whenever I hear women say how women shouldn’t initiate for dubious reasons. I’ve seen women say each time they did it didn’t work out, but what about what happens to guys in dating? He can message 100 girls on a dating app and he’d be lucky to get 1 date out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 09:58 PM |
| 1 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?I agree on this one. I see many women say that each time they initiated it always failed because if the guy was truly into them the guy would’ve initiated. I see this as women internalizing gender roles and blaming themselves for taking the “mans role” rather than looking deeper into why a relationship failed. While how I can see this being true for many men because that is how men are generally socialized, there are also lots of nuances like I mentioned where men don’t initiate despite having i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 09:56 PM |
| 2 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?To be fair, and this is coming from a woman as well, lots of women will be going after Chads. For guys, I think because they have to do so much of the initiating, they see more of the types of women that would reject them vs. who wouldn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 09:43 PM |
| 1 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?There are some people out there not fit to be in a relationship. These people are so hurt that they will purposely act disinterested because they’re scared to see your reaction to their interest. There are also people who just like that guy will ghost someone they like in order to get someone to chase them. It’s also a manipulation tactic. Imagine dealing with a partner who ghosted you whenever things didn’t go right? wouldn’t that be hard to deal with? Someone may like you, but it doesn’t mean … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 07:40 PM |
| 5 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?Then I wonder how many of these proposals are really just shut up rings, and how many marriages are really just shut up marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 07:33 PM |
| 2 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?Naturally you’d chose that person as they’re the ones showing more interest. The one being flaky may actually be just as interested but doesn’t show it. It could be out of fear, attachment style, or them wanting to play games because they don’t know what a healthy relationship is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 07:29 PM |
| 7 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?Are those women chasing guys who would be considered insanely attractive? I’d say the same exact thing happens to men, when they make moves on women who are considered insanely attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 07:27 PM |
| 3 | I hear others say that relationships where the women pursued or initiated are set to fail, but why do so many marriages which are often initiated by men fail? does which gender initiate really determine the outcome then?It’s interesting because in the female dominated level-up and hypergamy communtiy they get told to date a guy who likes them more. But how can you even quantify so easily how much someone loves you? We all show love differently? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Does having a 'hoe phase' come from a place of pain?It can. For me, I had gotten out of my first relationship where my ex made me feel bad and straight up ignored me (thank god we only lasted two months). Despite our relationship being very short what he did really hurt me. For me at the time, sleeping around was something that made me feel good about myself. It also made me feel like I was doing better than my ex who struggled to find women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Those who criticize people who engage in workplace romances are hypocriticalExactly. My post is mainly about relationships between coworkers it’s not about power dynamics. It’s very easy to say one thing but do another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Those who criticize people who engage in workplace romances are hypocriticalI’m not disagreeing either it is risky. However my post is mainly talking about how we condemn someone for engaging in a relationship without knowing how we would handle the suturing ourselves. Especially since us as humans want attention and will naturally look for it in those were interested in. There are power dynamics which I think too make it even riskier. If this was a power dynamic situation, I think sharing concerns are reasonable. But if it wasn’t, I would just mind my business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 4 | Those who criticize people who engage in workplace romances are hypocriticalI can’t blame your boyfriend especially with how sexual harassment is taken these days. A man could be falsely accused of sexual harassment and have his career ruined. Of course we should take it seriously but now it’s gotten to the point where once you’re accused there’s no going back. That’s the problem. It’s not that we take sexual harassment seriously, it’s that the accused does not have a chance to speak for themselves. Now there are cases in which the accuser can no longer share their side… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:07 PM |
| 3 | CMV: A bad attitude follows bad treatment - the reason for the bad treatment is why men actually fail with womenThis is exactly why I think it’s crucial for boys to have strong male figures in their life. Us as women don’t know what it’s like to be in the position where we are forced to make a move due to societal expectations. We have the benefit of not needing to make that move. Women also face shaming for even making a move sometimes. There’s always the idea that a woman who makes a move is a “loose/slutty woman” I will also agree that women getting rejected can be harder for them than it is for men. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 04:54 PM |
| 14 | CMV: A bad attitude follows bad treatment - the reason for the bad treatment is why men actually fail with womenMen are in a position where they are forced to handle rejection because they’re expected to always make a move. If you’re a guy with no game, no good looks, etc.. that can really take a toll on you if you keep on getting rejected. That is why it is important for men to know how to handle rejection, so they don’t end up like the incels who wish violence upon women. Of course women should know how to handle rejection too but since this is about men I just want to focus on men. Boys who don’t have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | How did we get to this point where playing games is seen as normal?I try my best not to be too upfront for this very reason. Usually if they show interest I will show interest back. It shouldn’t be like this where being upfront on your intentions is a sign of desperation. Of course at some point there’s desperation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 12:50 PM |
| 1 | How did we get to this point where playing games is seen as normal?People seemed more genuine then. Social media and dating apps has always given people this “me me me” mentality. People always think there so someone so much better, then they come to find that person wasn’t better at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:41 AM |
| 1 | How did we get to this point where playing games is seen as normal?I’m actually a woman, and I got tons of guys hitting on me. Many men tell me I’m attractive. I am staying single out of choice because i am going through my masters degree. I just hate this game playing where we can’t be upfront because people take it as desperation. But then you also have people who will take your interest to their advantage so they can string you along. I actually am not the type to make a move on a guy. I let him do all the pursuing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 11:34 AM |
| 1 | How important do you think teen love is?You’re not wrong at all. I agree with this. One of my HS friends didn’t date at all in HS or in college and he just got into his first relationship. I’m not sure how he felt being single, but being single in HS or college is not a predetermining factor on how the rest of one’s love life will be. It’ll only be a predetermining factor if you allow it to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | How important do you think teen love is?I didn’t have any relationships in HS even though I had a ton of guys like me. I was down about never having a boyfriend and had crap self esteem because of it. But now that I’m older I realized how I wasn’t able to handle any heartbreak at the time and that would’ve screwed me over way worse as a teen. Now I look back the issue was me placing my value on a relationship that would’ve been meaningless anyway. I could’ve had a boyfriend, I just decided not to because I knew it was wrong to be with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | How important do you think teen love is?I’d say it’s important. In HS I never had a boyfriend but was in romantic situations where guys liked me, I never liked them back. However, I saw some pretty nasty things happen with teen love and I think it did help prepare me on the things that could happen if I had a relationship. My friend never had a boyfriend in high school and she’s happily been with her boyfriend for a few years now. Some people who don’t get teen love react badly to it, some end up just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:38 PM |
| 4 | CMV: It is sad that it has become so normalized to not settle down until you're 30+My ex got with a woman and very quickly married her. Now he’s online selling stuff because he struggles to afford to keep care of the baby. He’s only 24 and must’ve been 23 when he had his kid. But given how fast he got married, it wouldn’t shock me if he decided to have kids on a whim, without determining how financially capable he is of having a kid. Now maybe something unexpected happened and he sold stuff to take care of the baby, that I would understand and not judge him for. But what I’m s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:34 PM |
| 9 | CMV: It is sad that it has become so normalized to not settle down until you're 30+Red pillers will be shitting on those who have kids later in life, but then don’t realize the things that are more likely to happen when you have kids at a young age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Should men love their women more? Should it be the other way around? Or equal?Would you say its possible to see a relationship where the woman likes the man more also ends in the man being used? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 12:37 PM |
| -2 | Should men love their women more? Should it be the other way around? Or equal?It’s very interesting because I always see men oppose this idea but never women. I understand why because many men have taken advantage of women and women just want to feel safe and loved. But, if you’re choosing someone purely based on the fact they love them more than you love them, it comes off as insecure and sometimes narcissistic. It’s not coming from true love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 05:00 AM |
| 5 | Should men love their women more? Should it be the other way around? Or equal?My experience has been the same. Women do face lots of pressure especially with societal expectations that can cause low self esteem. When one doesn’t feel good about themselves they don’t see themselves as lovable. Therefore I think it makes some women think they need someone to love them more to validate that they are indeed lovable and that they won’t get broken up with. But to say one particular gender has to love the other more just seems so weird because how can you even quantify that? I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Are forever girlfriends another category of women?Every time I see this topic discussed it’s always about how the man strung the woman along or how he doesn’t like her all that much. For some reason it’s always taken personally. Maybe they got together when young and didn’t have a clear sense of their future. So now they’re older and decided they want different things. Maybe they fought over something which ended the relationship. Maybe the woman didn’t want marriage So many things could happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Where's the insentive for a woman to have low body count?I slept around with 8 guys and I feel nothing but regret I would never even speak of those times or speak of them with fondness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Do men actually have it better dating wise ?That’s a very good point you make. I will not lie and say I’ve never came across deceptive men, but I’m sure there is deceptive women as well. I think this is really based on the individual. But I also think guys have it easier in the sense they can take the lead without being questioned. Sometimes women get seen as desperate for making a move, it shouldn’t be that way, but this is one of the many ways society prevents women from having any agency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Why isn’t the idea that men should do all the chasing questioned?That’s also a very good question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 03:33 AM |
| 2 | Why isn’t the idea that men should do all the chasing questioned?Interesting you say that because the last guy who fully paid for my date just used me to string me along so he could cheat on his gf with me 😳 Believe me I’ve seen men do the whole song and dance only to leave a woman once she got in he pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 02:54 AM |
| 2 | Why isn’t the idea that men should do all the chasing questioned?You’re not wrong. What is worrisome is that their user base is so young and that young girls could think its okay to take advantage of men and not reciprocate back. You can literally tell right through these women’s attitude that they probably wouldn’t do anything for their man to show appreciation. They think with their attitude that they deserve a man who’s rich and does it all for them. While it doesn’t have to be something like planning a date or paying for a date like you said, it can be an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 02:35 AM |
| 2 | Why isn’t the idea that men should do all the chasing questioned?There’s nothing wrong with that. Im referring to the smug attitude of these women who think it’s forbidden for them to ever reciprocate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Why isn’t the idea that men should do all the chasing questioned?I agree. Like you want the guy to do all of that for you, but do you ever stop to think if he’s wondering when you’ll ever show appreciation for him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 01:49 AM |
| 1 | The saying “if he wanted to he would” is overused, and dismisses the issues men face in datinfI agree with that one. It wouldn’t want to be with someone who is actually into me, but appears not to. That would be very frustrating to deal with. Even if someone likes us, it doesn’t mean they’ll be good for us. There are some people out they who truly don’t know how to properly treat someone. In the situation you mentioned, I see it indicative of attachment problems or past hurt they haven’t worked through. All red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | The saying “if he wanted to he would” is overused, and dismisses the issues men face in datinfLike if you make it clear what your expectations are, and the guy doesn’t meet I see where the saying makes sense. But there also are times where someone can meet your expectations, something changes, and they can’t anymore. At that point you decide what to do, leave, or stay with someone who can’t serve you. As for approaching, you make very good points as well. I think for a lot women from my own experience, we’re told to appear interested but also not interested at the same time. It’s such a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:56 AM |
| 1 | The saying “if he wanted to he would” is overused, and dismisses the issues men face in datinfI also wonder why the saying “if she wanted to she would” isn’t as said as much. I think a lot of it is because of what men are expected to be and do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:51 AM |
| 1 | The saying “if he wanted to he would” is overused, and dismisses the issues men face in datinfYou’re not wrong. But being with someone who expects you to mind read isn’t healthy either. Why he with someone who is constantly going to show their disappointment with you due to something that could’ve been resolved with communication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:43 AM |
| 2 | The saying “if he wanted to he would” is overused, and dismisses the issues men face in datinfI think the issue is that men are conditioned to approach while women stay put and wait. Therefore, the men who don’t approach may have anxiety issues. So I see where you’re coming from as well. Now that doesn’t always mean they’ll be a bad partner. Some guys are nervous to make a move due to an anxiety issue, but they know how to work through their anxieties enough that it doesn’t hurt the relationship. I’ve had men make the first move on me only because they had an agenda and were not mentally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareA friend of mine dropped out of college for a guy. He was very into traditional gender roles but was okay with women working. Anyways, she went through a lot with this guy. Her family didn’t like him and it was a rollercoaster with everything going on. 8 months into their relationship they got engaged, which is rather early. They were married for 4 years, then separated. Sadly there’s a kid in the middle of it too. She’s worked mainly low paying jobs. She was always the type to have a boyfriend,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?The problem is we base our expectations based on experiences and what we’ve been told. So many guys don’t make a move out of fear. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t like her enough. Some men may be nervous and approach, and some won’t. It’s all dependent on the guy on how he will react to the fear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 03:51 AM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I was bullied in middle school and my looks were attacked a LOT. So that carried over to high school. It also didn’t help the girls at my school were what I wanted to look like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?I see a lot of women say they should ask out men because men will say yes to everything. That to me is stupid because you should discern if he’s serious about you or not. Many women made the first move and are doing just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?In my experience as a 23 year old. Most men who approached me were just looking for trouble. I think a lot of it is due to the fact that many men my age and younger want sex. Even older men who approached me were the same way too. It makes me wonder if we have to completely change our method to find a good guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?This right here. Women don’t also approached because they’ve been scared into not doing it. Many times I heard not to approach as it would emasculate men, or make him think I’m aggressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 03:02 PM |
| 14 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?Exactly, then women wonder why they’re not being approached. In my experience the good guys don’t try to approach, but the ones with the most balls will and usually those end up being bad news. As a woman myself I’ve been guilty of thinking a guy isn’t interested if he didn’t make a move on me. As a result I’ve felt expected to say yes to any guy because he was interested. A guy could really be interested in a woman and not make a move. I’ve seen women say that no matter how nervous a guy is if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:50 PM |
| 5 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?Some men are scared to make an approach so they don’t approach. Some men are scared, but will still approach. Some men are just passive and don’t approach. All guys are different when it comes to this, has NOTHING to do if the guy likes the woman enough. I’m sick of hearing people say if he didn’t approach you he doesn’t “like you enough”. As a woman who’s had many guy friends, I’ve seen them get broken-hearted in situations that would make someone not want to bother with dating. We forget that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 12:57 PM |
| 3 | Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest?I know many women who approached first and are happily married. As a woman myself I can see what guys are saying that we tend to go for the most wanted men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 12:46 PM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I feel like for me, I don’t really fit in OPs study. I never had a bf in high school yet I had so many guys try to go after me that I didn’t like back. My self esteem was still shit. Got to college, had bfs, slept around a bit, my self esteem was still shit. Moral of the story, relationships or being sexually desired don’t do anything for your self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 12:32 PM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.Yeah I mean even if I wasn’t desired it would’ve been worse. But tbh I always been the type to feel like crap about myself despite having guys like me and finding me sexually attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 12:30 PM |
| 2 | The importance of teen love is underrated.You make a good point. I never had a bf in high school and my self esteem was awful. I had many boys go after me but I neve liked them back. It did feel good to have their validation. But having a relationship then wouldn’t have done me any good. A good portion of my HS friends didn’t have relationships during those times either and they’re doing fine now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:57 AM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I never had a bf in high school, but had lots of boys going after me, and my self esteem was shit. I never liked those boys back, but it felt good to have their validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:55 AM |
| 1 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.I’m 23, and every time a guy 30+ has gone after me they are bad news. Women their age are wise enough to not deal with their crap, which is why women don’t pick them. If a guy marries a young woman for these things, what will happen when she’s no longer youthful looking or fertile? They’ll either cheat on her with someone younger, or leave her. When you marry someone expect for them to age. It reminds me of a story where my coworker in his almost mid 30s who went after me recently. The wife is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:15 AM |
| 12 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.I agree with you. I see the argument that if someone, man or woman is 35+ and never married, something is AUTOMATICALLY wrong with them. You have no clue what that person went through, and there’s really no set age to get married. You can get married anytime realistically. My cousin is 32, so nearing 35, she was strung along 8 years by a guy and she stayed because her self esteem was so low. I have another cousin nearing 40 who’s never married due to pickiness, which is a whole other story. Some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:10 AM |
| 7 | The pill doesn't nullify female reproductive responsibility. If anything, it's increased the responsibility and concerns surrounding it.Single mothers usually get more crap than deadbeat dads. When a woman is a single mother people are quick to assume that she did something wrong. For all we know her husband could have died. Then when a single mother leaves because the husband/boyfriend was abusive, she gets told to “choose better”. A lot of times, abusers start off as normal people. There’s a lot of manipulation that goes on that’s very hard to catch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidSome people let their desires for love cloud their judgment. Think about it we all love attention so it’s easy to jump in. We all desire love, but that doesn’t mean we need to jump into relationships if we’re in a place where we can’t give someone what they deserve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidThat’s an interesting point you make and I feel like I’ve seen it myself. I saw a tweet from a woman who was mad that her boyfriend couldn’t come to pick her up from the airport on the day he was working. Her idea was that since he worked remotely, he had time. Some remote workers, especially ones during the pandemic were literally being spied on to make sure they weren’t leaving their workspace. Or he had something going on and he couldn’t come pick her up. I work remotely, and I absolutely can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:40 PM |
| 1 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidYou did the right thing. It wasn’t that you weren’t into her anymore, you were self aware enough to know things would’ve turned out worse had you continued with her. You also make a good point about the lifestyle in Japan, there people are used to that type of life and they can easily make time for someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidI agree. Some busy people can make time and others can’t. You can like someone but not want to be with them because you know you won’t be able to support that person in the way they deserve. People deserve to be in loving relationships where they are reciprocated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 03:03 PM |
| 3 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidThat’s a very good question you ask. To me they should because you can’t force a relationship to happen. Even if you talked that person into being with you, they’re still going to be in that place where they can’t give you what you need, and then you’ll feel unfulfilled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 03:01 PM |
| -1 | Q4M question for males: you meet your dream girl, but then she ages and is no longer the girl you met?Can I get an Amen?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:44 AM |
| 2 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidExactly instead of trying to badger them badger about how they weren’t interested in the person and led them on, maybe we can try to understand where they’re coming from first. You don’t know what someone could be going through. Sometimes people jump into situations only to realize later they can’t give what that person needs. They could be in a serious relationship with someone else who doesn’t expect much, or have a friends with benefits too. Either way you can’t expect everyone to be able to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:35 AM |
| 2 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidThen you have the whole idea that if celebrities who are busy can have relationships so can the busy average Joe. It’s an easily believable thing, but we all have our own boundaries which are different amongst ourselves. If someone really feels they don’t have the headspace for something serious because they’re busy then let them be. Why badger them about how they don’t really like that person? You could really like someone but also know you can’t serve their needs and therefore not want to be w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:28 AM |
| 3 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidThe way I look at it to is that if you really like someone but you know deep down you can’t serve their needs, why even be with them? You’re not doing them justice. Find someone else who will be okay with your absence. It’s not always boiled down to a lack of interest sometimes it’s being self aware enough to know it won’t turn out right if you were with someone. The issue is that people let love cloud their judgement and they jump into situations that later turn for the worse. All this BS about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:21 AM |
| 1 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidSome say if you really like someone you’d make time which is true. But some people no matter how much they like someone, they can also feel as if they’re not ready to take something on and don’t want that person hurt. Like why should they be shamed if they say they’re too busy for a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:09 AM |
| 0 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidI agree. But some people who are very busy may not feel like they can take one on and that’s valid too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 02:06 AM |
| 2 | The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupidI also think people will say they’re busy but when they meet their dream partner they’ll be with them. BUT if you’re jumping into a relationship while in a place you can’t give someone what they deserve, it will only lead to trouble. That’s why it’s so important not to let those feelings of being in love cloud your judgement. I don’t get why actually being self aware that even though you like someone, but also know you can’t give what they need is a bad thing. I could be interested in a guy, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Which degrees make men and women more and less attractive?I’m a woman in stem, in cybersecurity and that’s where I got my degree in. I find guys in stem to be more attractive to me because of the commonalities you mentioned. I rather be with someone in stem. I’m in luck because I’m a woman and a minority in my field lol. I literally have multiple dudes in my industry who try to go after me. I even had an older guy from work hit on me as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Is being dominant in a woman's best interest?I think if people were just themselves we wouldn’t have this issue if people constantly feeling the need to fit in the boxes of feminine and masculine. I saw a video of a guy who’s feminine and a girl who’s masculine in a romantic relationship and they seem to fit each other really well. Opposites attract. Masculine women generally aren’t attractive to most men in general because men are generally inherently masculine, and the same vice versa for feminine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsIt’s so interesting you mention this example. I’m nerdy and also a dancer. I work in cybersecurity and I’m attracted to nerdy guys who are masculine. Usually from what I’ve seen from men who are dancers, they do tend to have a very feminine side which doesn’t attract me because I’m very feminine as well. Opposites attract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 07:56 PM |
| 3 | People dating need to be realistic with their expectationsThe issue is that we’ve become so entitled. You have women who don’t take care of themselves who want handsome men. You also have men who don’t take care of themselves who want beautiful women. As a 23 year old, any young woman who ends up with a guy like the man you mentioned usually would not have much going for her, or their self esteem is so low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Trad Wife TourismThere’s nothing wrong with wanting a traditional life so you would chose someone who can give that to you. But a lot of these men travel to other countries because no woman in their own country will go near them with a 10 foot pole because they’re so repulsive. Then these men blame “feminism”. There are many women all over the world who want to be traditional. They have this idea women from other countries are “better”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesThose are good points you make. To men they think that it is easy to spot an abuser. While there are times where women are warned, many times the manipulation is deep enough that they can’t see it. Sometimes they may never even be warned. In online dating situations where you meet people out of your social circles, your friends and family don’t know the person therefore can’t make a judgement. Most abusers start out normal people. Women just don’t decide to go with an abusive man. There’s so muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesWhen I was growing up I was told to avoid asking out a guy at all costs because it needs to be his job. Me doing his job would make me look desperate. Lots of women are told this. This idea is being let go, but it’s alive still. Go on subreddits like FemaleDatingStrategy where they actively advise against it and shame women who do ask out men. They call these women names like pickmes. Even to this day women can be seen as desperate or sluts for asking a guy out. If you’re in a more progressive a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesI didn’t. I don’t call men I hate incels | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesOh I did? Sorry I thought you replied to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesThe issues I mentioned are very real issues women face. We face violence in relationships at higher rates. We face slut shaming if we ask a guy out. These things happen. You can’t discount them at all. I think Reddit attracts a certain type of guy who would disagree with what I had to say about women. Usually these men don’t fair very well in the dating game. I tried to be as fair as I could here. Both genders have their own issues which are equally hard to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesIt seems like men who want that specific type of woman don’t like being asked out. I noticed that guys who are more open with what they want in a woman don’t really care if a woman asks them out. Men can like feminine and trad women and that’s not an issue. However there are men that like that sort of woman because they think those women are easy to control and manipulate. To that type of guy, a woman asking him out lowers his hope that you’d be the type he thinks he can easily control. It remin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesExactly. For women, we don’t have to ask men out. So the one time we do and it doesn’t go well, we’re prone to think that the idea that women shouldn’t ask men out is right. I notice that the people who say that are constantly rejected women and men with fragile masculinity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesMy point stands. Some women are sadly in situations where there is no warning of a man being abusive, which also includes no warnings from others about him. There isn’t anything wrong with women asking men out. It’s just that some people make it an issue. Particularly, women who have been constantly rejected by men or men with a fragile sense of masculinity are the ones I see typically against it. Therefore when women ask out a guy who happens to have a fragile sense of his own masculinity and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesYou’re not wrong. The guys aren’t generally getting hurt. What I mean by hurt is a fragile man’s ego being destroyed because they perceive a woman asking him out as a threat to his sense of masculinity. In general, it’s not a threat to any man’s ego at all. But it’s how these types of men think. They think if you do a “masculine thing” for them, they’re no longer a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:19 PM |
| 3 | If women cheat primarily by opportunity , the biggest risk is her profession, not her N-countI work in cybersecurity. Im a 23 year old woman and believe me I had older guys use me to cheat on their wives that they kept hidden. It happens in all industries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesI don’t disagree with that. But there are some men out there who sadly get all hurt if a woman asks them out. Women are generally told not to make a move or else they will look desperate. This whole idea came from the days where women were called “loose” if they ever showed interest first. Yet this idea has carried throughout generations. While things are more progressive these days, this idea is sadly still very well alive. It should’nt be this way at all. Asking to spend time with someone shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesI never asked a man out in my life. Men throw themselves at me all the time. I’m just stating what I’ve heard women and some men say, that asking men out as a woman can make you look desperate. However, it’s a certain type of a guy that would speak in such a way about women that’s best to be avoided. I’m just stating what women have to unfortunately hear when they want to ask a guy out. They get shamed. Then when some men with fragile egos act hurt when a woman asks them out it further solidifie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesSo you’re saying all women knowingly tolerate it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesSometimes men don’t always appear as violent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesThere are men who like feminine women who wouldn’t mind a woman asking them out. But I think generally this would happen in less progressive areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:34 PM |
| -2 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesYou’re not wrong, in fact I’d say too that a woman asking a man out could help her filter who’s got a fragile sense of masculinity or not. On the other hand, how men negatively react to being asked out doesn’t make it easy for women because we’re always told if we make the first move we will be seen as desperate. Their negative reactions further solidifies in our mind the idea that women who ask out are desperate. Women should be able to make a move with no taboos involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesThat’s why for some of them us asking them out is a threat to their fragile sense of masculinity. Why should a woman asking a man out be such a taboo thing in the first place? Some men argue that If a woman always asks a guy out it means no man wants her. I don’t know, maybe she’s really confident and know what she wants? doesnt always mean there’s something bad about her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:02 PM |
| -3 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesI’m not disagreeing, but we are the ones who face more violence in dating and relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 05:00 PM |
| -6 | Men and women have it equally hard in dating, just with different strugglesSometimes when women approach they’re called sluts, whores, etc… some men even in progressive societies will not want to date you if you made a move on them because their sense of masculinity is so fragile that a woman asking to spend time with him is a threat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell if you said it?In my experience e I went out on a date with a guy who had no issue telling me I was beautiful. It didn’t turn out to a second date because he was wanting me to do all the work and wanting to be chased. He did ask me out to see how far he could get with me, but left the rest to me. He also already had a gf he was cheating on too. But I do agree with the first point still, but it could also be attraction to personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:32 PM |
| 2 | People should be 100% transparent on the first dateOne of the advices I’ve seen given to women, and I believe I saw it on FDS is to never tell a man you have a mental illness because they will use that to take advantage of you. As someone who deals with depression, I find this to be very bad advice. Not everyone can deal with someone with a mental illness, so its better to be upfront rather than waste someone else’s time. While there are guys who take advantage of women with a mental illness, its better to find out sooner than later how they wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/22 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Because i didn’t think it would be worth it because a lot of times the victims don’t believe you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I didn’t tell her. I felt this would be a bad idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?That right there sums up what I saw with my own eyes. The woman in question had a deformity which would make her unattractive to society. Her bf cheated on her.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I agree with all that you said. To elaborate, this was not a good guy. Talked crap on his ex to get me to see him as an angel. Whenever he was upset he was lightening quick to respond to me in comparison to daily conversation. This sounds like a user to me. I vetted poorly and didn’t find out until he ghosted that they were together. Even if they were in an open relationship, it could still be considered cheating if he kept me secret. His intention was to never pursue but keep me around when he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Again I’m not disagreeing. This was not a good guy to begin with. Any guy who talks crap about his ex to make him look like an angel usually has skeletons in his closet. The stories on the ex he told probably were true but are likely to be twisted, so he said half truths. Not only that, that day he posted pics of her he traveled to see her. Next day he tells me on how tired he was to travel. That to me is very disrespectful because if you truly loved that person you wouldn’t complain behind thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?That could be it. But, if he kept me secret from her, that’s still wrong. In fact some would say if you keep people secret in an open relationship that it’s cheating and I don’t disagree with that. In an open relationship, you would at least communicate what is going on. From the looks of it, he could’ve also wanted an open relationship so he could mess around more, which is also not right either because he only considered his selfish desires. The fact that most people had the same speculations … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Yes after he ghosted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I had done some digging into social media and they were indeed in a relationship the whole time. I should’ve looked in further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I’m not disagreeing. I’m just stating the what-ifs because there are a lot of people who will take advantage of those who are vulnerable, insecure, or those who they think are vulnerable or insecure. This guy I will say was always more present whenever he needed something. Whenever he had an issue he was always quicker to respond in comparison to daily conversation. He could’ve very well done the same with her. He also could’ve been telling me about his problems so I’d feel sorry enough that i m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Maybe she asked for it and he felt compelled. Something like that could’ve easily happened. Or he knew he was doing something wrong and posted pics to make things seem as if they were fine when they really weren’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?There was bad wording on my part. What I’m really trying to say is that MAYBE he chose her because MAYBE she is not someone who gets a lot of attention. He didn’t have to find her ugly, but he also probably knew that she struggled with dating with the deformity. Since he’s insecure, he chose someone he thought he could get more out of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Yes and guess what they didn’t last long after he chose her. So she was no better than me. I’m not better than her either. He chose her because he’s an insecure man and since many people chose to be with people seen as unattractive due to the fact they think they are easier. Maybe this girl was more eager than I was. And guess what I don’t care. He was a cheater. I deserve better and so does she. He chose who he thought was better and guess what now he’s single. He made his choice and now he’s s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Yes because I didn’t put in the effort that he wanted me to. He was also very insecure about himself. So I think he stayed with her and he probably saw her as more willing to be with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?He told me he wanted something serious, and even asked me out. He spoke with me everyday. He complimented me. He told me stuff about his life. He was there for me when I needed support. But it was all game to him. He wanted attention not a relationship. Some men tell women they want a relationship, act serious, only to never take it further or not commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?That makes sense and I see your point. Some women grew up in abusive homes or had abusive relationships early on in life. This leaves an imprint so they chose based on what feels familiar. Some also have a lack of self esteem that makes them feel like they have to accept anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?No I did not. I Made some edits on my last comment. Like I said I am very traditional with dating and I let the man do it all. This guy pretended to be serious just so he could keep me around as backup when he wasn’t satisfied with the girlfriend. He told me all his issues, but I even wonder if he ever told her his issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Why should I be obligated to have a pic there? If an attractive person posted a similar situation where they said they were attractive, why are they under obligation to post a pic of themselves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?No I never did. He was using me to get attention. His intention was to never pursue. He just wanted to mess around. What he did do was lead me on thinking he wanted me as his gf, but was really looking for attention. I never asked him about her either. I tend to be traditional with dating so I let the man do it all. He never made anymore moves but continued to talk to me, compliment me, act like he wanted me. What he was doing was playing a game to get me interested enough so I’d be his backup. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I never slept with him. I’m not sure if you read my edit at the bottom but he kept her secret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I agree. Sadly for that woman, she may not have that opportunity. It’s the society we live in and it’s the harsh truth. I hate having to say it because people get offended. But the truth is if you have anything that makes you unattractive you will have less options. Usually those options are of low quality. Just look at who she was with. Like I said in my post, some people purposely date unattractive people because they think the unattractive person is so insecure that they must be desperate for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I agree. When I first saw her, I thought that something was wrong with me in general because all my life I was told I could easily find someone due to my good looks. But now that I’ve matured, and see him for who he was, it’s likely he didnt break up with her for me because he may have deemed her as insecure or more willing to be with him due to struggles she may have faced in dating. I’m not saying she is insecure or had dating struggles, but I think it could be very possible. Everyone told me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?I was a very insecure person when I met him. He really acted as if he got me. I also did not have experience seeing red flags. He posted pics of her once, without even telling me what was going on between them. But for the majority she was hidden. I was scared and didn’t want to come off as jealous. I didn’t know how to let go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?For me it was a lack of self esteem and experience of seeing red flags that led me to associate with him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Will being attractive get you a better partner?Let me clarify as I forgot to add. He kept this person secret from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisIf a married person lost everything including their spouse would they too struggle like the single person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisOh I agree with that one. Back then single people were not looked at kindly. These days, it is still looked down upon depending where you are but in my experience people are cool about it. I’m 23 with mental health issues from a past experience so I chose to be single and i am happy that way. Right now I prefer to be single so I can sort myself out. The thought of a relationship worries me because if i was in one I would worry I won’t be good constantly and that could cause issues. When it comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 05:47 PM |
| 2 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisSome people are happier single, but I think most would be happier to have someone around and there’s nothing wrong on that. Being single is hard because the society we live in tells people in order to be happy you must be partnered up. If society said different maybe it wouldn’t be so hard being single. I’m only 23 and i chose and prefer to be single due to issues that I have right now. I am not in a place to be with someone. Though my end goal is to be with someone because that’s what I prefer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisExactly. I think some people are happier when married not because of anything to do specifically with the person they are with, but because they felt so much pressure to get married that once married it’s a big weight off their shoulder. This happiness is temporary once reality sets in. I feel like no one really talks about this. The common conception is that once you’re married you’re shielded from all of life’s woes. Some people enjoy being independent and can be just as happy as a happily mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 05:02 PM |
| 0 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisAs a result single people feel left out then unhappy. If we didn’t force marriage and kids so much on people maybe people would find more contentness in being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:16 PM |
| 5 | Both men and women in relationships are far better off in every metric than those who aren’t. We should acknowledge thisI read other studies that married people are happier because happy people are more likely to get married in the first place. If you think about it, it makes sense. When you’re happy you’re more likely to be content with your partner and have a better outlook on marriage than a sad person does. If people are happier married, that’s is good for them. But not everyone is the same. I also think that some married people may be happier because they got something which they believed their whole lives w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Men over 30, do you filter out 30 year old women while looking for serious relationships?My dad’s friend been divorced 3 times. He married a woman around his age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Why are we giving mixed messages about texting and dating?I agree with you. If we generalize everyone as disinterested for taking 8 hours to reply we would be so alone. In 8 hours someone could be at work and they may not be allowed to be on their phones. Everyone lives a different life and doesn’t have the time to be on their phones 24/7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Why are we giving mixed messages about texting and dating?I think the issue is that people who aren’t interested may take a long time to reply, while those who are desperate are instant repliers. We see this behavior and associate it with if someone is not interested and desperate. There can be someone interested that may take long to reply, and someone not desperate who responds right away. Also the idea that since we’re on our phones 24/7 so we should get a response right away is stupid. The people saying this will be on their phones all day, take th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Why are we giving mixed messages about texting and dating?Like generally if people are interested they won’t take ages to reply. But someone could be interested and take more than a few hours or a day. People got lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Why are we giving mixed messages about texting and dating?I agree. It’s about finding someone who matches your energy. Even if someone takes too long for you and they’re still interested (again what’s too long is subjective) , you should still move on and find someone who suits your needs better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:12 AM |
| 5 | Why is an average woman more accepted for being single than an attractive woman for choosing to stay single?It shouldn’t be that way. Attractive people can have bad experiences that they don’t want to date again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:37 PM |
| 3 | Why is an average woman more accepted for being single than an attractive woman for choosing to stay single?As someone seen as attractive I agree with you. I’ve met lot of jerks along the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenIt is your right. Just don’t make others miserable in the meantime while doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 06:16 PM |
| 3 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenBecause if someone wants to use social media that is their right. You still can’t tell someone to not use social media. If you want someone without it social media find someone who doesn’t have any. It’s easier to deal that way than to make someone not use it anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenJust because two people are friends who happen to be exes does not mean they have feelings for each other. If you’re in a relationship with someone who’s friends with their ex and it gives you an icky feeling you should leave because chances are it’s your gut picking up on something and people will always find a way to cheat with exes whether you like it or not. You still have no right to tell someone who to be or not be friends with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenAnd telling someone to delete social media to prove their trustworthy is taking it too far because you’re isolating them from contact. By that logic people should just stay by your side 24/7, no going out by themselves even if it mean to the grocery store. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenNot really. You still shouldn’t make someone cut people out in their life to make you happy. You’re not someone’s authority. So find someone who has no exes around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenNot always, but i see what you’re saying. Someone could be knowingly cheating on you then they mitigate the risk of you finding out and you having to face confrontation by hiding it from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 04:43 PM |
| 3 | People should be picky and have incredibly high standardsYour standards should be high and you should be picky on who you chose if you want something serious for long term. You should chose someone who is respectful, healthy, honest, etc… However, there gets to be a point where you’re standards are too high and you’re being too picky. We’re human and bound to be imperfect so you can’t shut people out for every little minor flaw. When you do that you miss romantic opportunities. My cousin is 35 and not married due to her high standards and never being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenI’d argue too that trust is earned. HOWEVER, forcing someone to do certain things to trust them is not okay. In fact, if you feel the need to force them, maybe that’s a sign that you’re subconsciously picking up on the fact the person isn’t trustworthy and you’re trying to mold them into a trustworthy person. Which never works because dishonest people will always be dishonest. When it comes to cheating, when there’s a will there’s a way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 03:23 PM |
| 7 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenIf someone wants to cheat they will. It doesn’t matter what restrictions you have on them. They will find a way and be covert about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 03:07 PM |
| 6 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenI was friends with my ex. We had a mutual breakup. His now wife did not like I was in the picture and told him that we could not talk anymore. So he cut the friendship off. Something about the way he spoke about her the day he ended our friendship made me think she was manipulating him. If it is that important to have someone that isn’t friends with their ex, then find someone who isn’t friends with their ex. At the end of the day, You have no agency on who someone can and can’t be friends with.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 02:27 PM |
| 1 | People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve?For one a lot of times the side piece doesn’t even know. If they do know, they’re repeatedly told that the married person is in an open marriage. But if this was the opposite happening they do deserve blame too. But I mainly blame the spouse as they have a responsibility to not let anyone else come between them and their other spouse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 03:44 AM |
| 2 | People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve?Interesting, many people would also be blaming the person who knowingly slept with a married man. If you are married you do have a duty to be committed to your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 12:39 AM |
| 1 | People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve?When you talk about “helping” someone cheat, are you referring to someone who knowingly slept with a married person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 12:38 AM |
| 1 | People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve?Interesting you say that. I would agree as well because they did initiate the whole act of cheating. I think in a situation where someone knowingly had sex with a married person but there was no rape and coercion, they too deserve some backlash. Many times though, situations like these happen through manipulation and coercion, making the other person to feel obliged to have sex so it makes no sense to give all the backlash to the other person when it should really go to the married person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve?Actually this could also apply to people who are taken but are not married too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 08:55 PM |
| 31 | To people who agree with redpill ideas, what real life experience or event in your life convinced you that redpill ideas are true and makes sense?Im a woman. I do agree with some of red pill says but not all of it. I think seeing how my guy friends got picked last, and how I chosen men who were bad for me, made me side with some of red pill. But I don’t consider myself a red piller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?You could initiate and have him lead the rest. What about men who were approached by women and are in happy relationships today? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 10:09 PM |
| 3 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?I agree. Women tend to internalize being told they shouldn’t ask out as the reason they failed because they took the man’s job. What those women experienced is no different than what men do. If a man isn’t interested in a woman he wont even approach her either so no matter what the result is the same. But there are men who don’t approach out of Fear which is why women shouldn’t be afraid to approach because sometimes the guy needs an extra push. Lots of women get a taste of what men face and dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 08:17 PM |
| 2 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Im from Massachusetts so it’s fairly liberal here. But I do have my fears on approaching despite believe women should because some men out there have an extremely fragile sense of masculinity and I don’t know how they’ll react. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:37 PM |
| 2 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Some women will hide behind traditional roles for fear of being rejected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Im not saying women should be forced to approach, neither should guys. Both sides should be able to approach. Women too must build up self esteem before they approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 05:24 PM |
| 3 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Well I was told that by my mom who’s from Italy and grew up in a time of strict gender roles. But I do see this from other women here in the US who don’t come from backgrounds where gender roles are strictly followed. The whole idea a woman is slutty or desperate if she approaches comes from a time when women were shamed for showing any agency in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 04:39 PM |
| 2 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Interesting. I was always told, and I’m a woman myself That approaching is off limits for all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 04:26 PM |
| 2 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?So would this further prove that women who approach go for men out of their league and not approach the average a guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?Good luck with that ever happening. Women are told not to approach or else she’ll look desperate. We should get rid of the status quo though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 04:09 PM |
| 3 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?I agree with you. Women would first need to severely lower their standards. Then by dating an incel they’re not gonna wanna go through that again thus raising their standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 03:05 PM |
| 3 | We need to stop shaming younger women who like getting attention from older menI see both sides to this. I think we see a lot of older men taking advantage of younger women, so older women aren’t always jealous If they being up concerns. Note how I use the wording “some older women” in my original post. My thought is that older women aren’t looked very kindly in the dating scene, and I can imagine for some, seeing a handsome older man after a younger women may cause jealousy. But again, not all are jealous. They’ve been hurt by these men before. But there are always going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 02:34 AM |
| 2 | We need to stop shaming younger women who like getting attention from older menIm not saying all older women are like this. I truly believe there are older women looking out for the younger ones. I also will agree that older men who go after younger women may have a maturity issue as well, and can be dangerous to be around too. What I’m saying is that younger women who enjoy the attention of older men shouldn’t be shamed because it’s normal to feel good by getting positive attention by someone you like. But also, not everything that feels good is actually good for you too.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 11:24 PM |
| 6 | Why is if considered offensive to ask women what they bring to the table?Im speaking not in terms when you go on a date, but asking a woman who thinks she shouldn’t put in any effort that. In that scenario why is it offensive to ask them that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Why is if considered offensive to ask women what they bring to the table?This is the context I’m talking about. Not when you meet someone for the first time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Why is if considered offensive to ask women what they bring to the table?Thats what I always thought. I’m speaking more in terms in asking women this when they struggle to find someone or their partner feels as if they’re putting more effort than the woman does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Why is if considered offensive to ask women what they bring to the table?Like I always knew it could come off the wrong way because a lot of times it’s said by bitter men. However if it’s a general question asked when someone has a hard time finding a partner, or their partner feels like they’re putting more effort than they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:07 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree with what you said. For some women it’s jealousy. But I think internalized misogyny also plays a role. Us women hear from other women not to make moves as we’ll look desperate. This idea comes from a time where people believed women shouldn’t be able to have or exercise her own agency, instead do everything a man tells her to do. Women were viewed as desperate or slutty for making the first move as it showed that she was exercising her own agency. Eventually the got passed down from gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI actually don’t consider myself to be a feminist. When I mean feminist I speak of the third wave of radical feminism that we see rampant today. I do consider myself to be for equality which is technically the definition of feminism, but sadly it’s taken a different turn today. I do agree that a lot of women are afraid of rejection. I think a lot also hide behind believing in traditional gender roles in the dating aspect because they don’t want to put themselves in a position where they’ll get r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyWhat does it have to do with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:23 AM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyWell we don’t know the full story of what happened between the two. Even so, getting hurt by guy doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ever make the first move on them again. Another issue I see is that when a woman gets hurt by a guy, sometimes she may resort viewing all men as bad. While there are some horrific things that could happen to women that would make her understandably think that about all men, in reality not all men are awful people. I think for women who got hurt in unforgivable ways like rap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:22 AM |
| 3 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyNever once seen a man say women are desperate for making a move. If anything, If they’re saying that, they’re either: Very traditional, probably come from an area where gender roles are strictly followed. Hate other men who get attention from women, so they call the women desperate as a means to make them feel better about their lack of success. Misogynistic. They don’t like women who know what they want because they feel that it’s a threat to their manhood, or they know they’re not what women w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 02:10 AM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThat’s what I think. Like I said in my other replies here men can absolutely pretend to be serious and initiate everything just to use her for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 12:19 AM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI’ve noticed the same thing. When it’s happening to a guy he’s told to take a hint. But when it’s a woman then he’s an ass. I had a guy use me to cheat on his gf. He was very passive and wanted me to make all the moves because he’s a user. Me being passive I made no moves on him which inevitably saved me from a worse situation. I wonder if the roles were reversed and I was a guy and he was a woman what I would’ve been told… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:44 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyWomen are told that if they ask out a guy, it shows she’s desperate. But when a guy does he is fulfilling his manly duties. I view it as misogyny and it is viewing women in a negative light just because they asked out a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:42 PM |
| 0 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree. They say this to make themselves feel better for why women don’t ask them out or say no to them. They’re upset that women don’t ask them out or say yes to their advances, so they resort to calling women desperate for making the first move because it makes them feel good about themselves. It makes them Think about the woman’s shortcomings if she’s desperate and not his if he keeps on getting rejected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 10:40 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree. It also makes women think they have to be with a man because he made the first move. Which can turn out ugly if his intentions aren’t pure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 09:56 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI’d say scenario 2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 09:18 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyNot all men are sexist though. Men can pretend to be serious and be the pursuer, and end up using her for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 09:14 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree. Not all men are sexist and not all men are there to pump and dump. It makes sense to want to protect your girlfriends, so you tell them not to pursue. But the thing is, many men will pursue, pretend to be serious, and the very moment he gets in her pants he no longer wants to do anything with her. So yes even men who pursue don’t have good intentions in doing so. Lots of women have made the first move and are in happy relationships and even marriages. Also I think saying that the reason… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 09:13 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI have to agree with you. I’ve always let man make the first move and it’s never turned out well. If anything I’ve attracted guys who were trash. My only 2 bfs made the first move and luckily it wasn’t like I had issues with them for the most part and we ended amicably. But the rest of men who made moves on me were trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 09:09 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynySadly for many women including me we had women tell us not to go after guys. I was always told to stay put, not appear interested and not initiate. I’m single because of the lack of action on my end. I then ended up attracting bad men because they saw my lack of action as a way to push things further and overstep my boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 07:35 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree with that. You should pursue when you get clear signals that they like you and aren’t users like that guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:24 PM |
| 4 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyYes if they believe the man is less of man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:21 PM |
| 0 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyWhile there are safety issues when older men go after younger women, older women will deter the younger women not because she actually cares but because she’s jealous. The older you get the less age matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:01 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI’ve had men make the first move and act desperate. I even knew guys in hs who got labeled as desperate as they went from women to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 06:00 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThe idea that women are sluts or desperate from initiating stems from misogyny. It stems from looking down on women who don’t follow a certain norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 05:59 PM |
| 4 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyBecause women are told by women around them and sometimes even by men that asking a man out makes you slutty, but when men do it it’s okay. It’s a double standard that negatively impacts women because then they’re seen as slutty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 05:32 PM |
| 5 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyIt makes absolutely no sense. If every man is trash then maybe get a divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:53 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynySadly I think this is going to be hard to ever have happen. It’s nice to have a man pursue and propose to you. It’s a nice ego boost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyIn my experience I always operated from the feminine role and approached a lot of bad dudes. I did some introspection and realized that I have bad self esteem and I accepted anything. My lack of self esteem made it hard to initiate anything with guys and even show interest, so they assumed I didn’t like them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:47 PM |
| 8 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyWomen are the same way too. People are in general. We want those we like to go after us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:43 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThat’s what I think too. For women we’re not used to making the first move. We get hit on by men all the time so it’s easy to think every man will like us. So when we get rejected we internalize it as taking the “man’s role” instead of the fact that the person wasn’t interested. There are women out there who made the first move and are in happy relationships and even marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThere’s men who will pretend to be serious, and do a good job of manipulating her of thinking that he is only to use her for sex. They’ll make the first move, pay for dates. But when the exclusivity talk comes they say they dont want to get exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:40 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThank you. Whenever I share this to other women they think I’m crazy. It just goes to show how deep the misogyny actually is. I do agree with a lot of the viewpoints here too. Life is very nuanced. But what I’m getting at is that the reasoning behind why women don’t make the first move is because they’re told by other women they’ll be seen as sluts or desperate if they do so. Which I do think is misogynistic because it’s automatically viewing women in a negative light just for asking a guy out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyNo one is standing in my way. Yes there is a fear of rejection. But honestly it’s also about your reputation. If you go around suddenly coming up to people asking for their numbers it won’t look so good on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree with you. However it’s not as easy as people make it out to be. Like I said so many people will be focused on what they’re doing and may not make themselves available for small talk with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:43 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI honestly haven’t because I’m taking a break from dating. I’ve said hi to guys on dating apps but nothing really ever came out of it. It was only like 3 guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:36 PM |
| 3 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyThen women who want to make the first move should find partners who won’t care if they make the first move. Like you said some may not be actually be misogynistic. But there are people who believe women Taking lead is a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:36 PM |
| 2 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyPersonally if I’m out I don’t bother others. If I’m at the gym I’m not going up to some random person to talk to them they’re too busy to focus on theirselves. The point of that post was to talk about how people overestimate how easy it is to find someone just by going out. Some people live in lowly populated areas. Or even sketchy areas so maybe keeping to yourself is best for your safety. Now if you happen to frequent places and end up socializing with someone you really like and you’re a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:34 PM |
| 0 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyMy friends agreed with what I had to say. I was pointing out how people act like it’s easy to find someone just by simply going out. A lot of times when you go places people will be too focused on themselves. Like I go to the gym, most people are focused on themselves and would be weirded out if I asked for their number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:24 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI don’t beef with them. My friends agreed with what I had to say actually. In That post I was talking about how people act like it’s easy to find someone just by going out. A lot of times people are just gonna focus on themselves they don’t care about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:20 PM |
| 0 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyA lot of people regardless of gender May he weirded out if you ask them for their number if you’re a complete stranger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 02:20 PM |
| 11 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI agree with you actually. Some men don’t like women who make the first move. Personally if a guy diminished my value all because I asked him out I would not want him as a partner. I feel like a lot of these guys who despise women making the first move are either misogynists or controlling because they want a sense of masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:41 PM |
| 3 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyYou’re right that it may be due to women wanting someone to lead, but the beliefs that women are desperate, masculine, sluts if they initate do stem from misogyny. They stem from a time when women were looked down upon for having any independence in themselves. I do agree with you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:29 PM |
| 4 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyYou are right. There should be anything wrong with a woman making the first move. If two people are happy together why who makes the first move matter? Love shouldn’t be this staged process. Should come naturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:12 PM |
| 7 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyI think that us women were socialized to compete with each other and it results in what we see today. This is why we get told to not make a move, because if another woman is out there trying to find a guy she becomes our competition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:10 PM |
| 1 | I believe a lot of women tell each other not to make moves on guys because of internalized misogynyRight, like making a move would be a “masculine” trait, but even so the world won’t end if a woman makes a move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:08 PM |
| 5 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menWe’re told that men are designed to be hunters and If he doesn’t make a move he’s not interested. These days men have to worry about looking like a creep, and it’s no wonder why they don’t make a move. In my experience the guys who’ve mostly initiated were the ones with the most balls and usually weren’t up to no good. The good ones will try to leave you alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:38 PM |
| 4 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menI’m not. I’m just saying why women aren’t putting in more effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 12:37 PM |
| 4 | Women put virtually zero effort into dating, and certainly far less than menAs a woman, the issue is that we get shamed by other woman for initiating, paying for dates, etc.. our mothers told us to have the man make the move and if he doesn’t he’s not into you. The issue with that is that sometimes men are scared to make the first move And the woman will need to help him by asking him out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 01:32 AM |
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