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| 2 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?Your belief system is from academia, even if you never went to college. Whoever taught you to believe what you believe either got it from college or got it from someone who did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 03:49 PM |
| 5 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?I mean, whether it was a joke or not, he’s clearly aware of incels and their online presence. The troll who appears to have posted the fake post that fooled you, and which you never attempted to fact-check, certainly is aware of incels, that much is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:40 AM |
| 5 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?Except this appears to be a sexist smear based on a faked social media post. Guess what: the overwhelming majority of spree killers don't post clues to their upcoming murder sprees, for some strange unfathomable reason. Guess what: it's not in any way difficult to make a social media post on Wednesday and doctor the date to make it seem like it was posted on Monday. Feminist fact-checking, from the branch of academia that claims that any non-fictional human community ever functioned as a Matriar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:39 AM |
| 4 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?There is reason to believe that post was placed online after the killer was in a cell, without any internet access. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:34 AM |
| 4 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?Do lies matter? Yes. Does it matter that a group of harmless mentally ill men are seemingly being falsely claimed to be more likely than other types of mentally ill men to become spree killers? How could it not? Unless lying about men is itself moral in a certain ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:33 AM |
| 4 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?There's no proof that the supposed social media post that seemed to show the perp talking about an "incel revolution" was actually the perp. There is reason to believe the post was made after the perp was in police custody and his name and face had been made public. The link between incel and this spree killer appears to be the act of an unconnected troll. Feminist Fake News, in other words. Which is also applicable to all feminist news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:31 AM |
| 1 | What's behind the sudden interest in incels from the MSM?Not true. Feminists on Twit-ter use it as an insult all the time when a person demonstrates that she has made a factual error. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Affirmative consent and kino escalation are the sameAnd then it puts the lotion in the basket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Affirmative consent and kino escalation are the sameOkay so we agree. A bird chirping in a tree is communication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Affirmative consent and kino escalation are the sameDuh doy! Kino escalation precedes language by millions of years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 12:45 PM |
| 1 | QForBP: How many of you are actually feministsYou said there is a schism. Clearly the schism has yet to make its way into the "intellectual" output of feminist "scholarship" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Is it as hard to get a decent-looking girl as the manosphere insists it is?How would you know what they think given that they have been censored for years? Censoring them is what the sub wanted, but the sub thus lost its right to opine, as it chose the path of ignorance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:59 PM |
| 1 | QForBP: How many of you are actually feministsWhat are the top five scholarly journals where liberal feminism routinely condemns illiberal feminism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:56 PM |
| 9 | Why do you keep comparing yourself to women?To correct extremely erroneous statements made by feminist ideologues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Men who frequent TRP/MGTOW are there for the misogynyNo, I mean feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Men who frequent TRP/MGTOW are there for the misogynyThis is you displaying your emotions. Try not getting so many of your opinions fully formed from ideologically obsessed people; it'll hurt at first (it really will, learning always hurts), but as you get used to it you'll be amazed at how your whole universe becomes richer and flat, empty spaces gain texture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 12:18 PM |
| 2 | Men who frequent TRP/MGTOW are there for the misogynyDepends what you mean. I'm curious to find out how the misogyny presents, because I want to make it go away. I don't like the misogyny, and the misogyny I read doesn't, make me hostile to women. Any more than you reading about a Hitler speech makes you dislike Jews. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 12:13 PM |
| 4 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?No problem, man. Kudos for being in the tiny minority online who can admit a mistake swiftly without losing their shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 09:22 AM |
| 5 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?Nope, I just know it was repeated by historians I wouldn't expect to make shit up. Yes Warning, that's feminist propaganda. The documents claiming that women worked in mines exist, but given how today's feminists are so eager to lie, we can't assume that these documents reflected reality. However, if absolutely no women worked in those mines, you would expect the mine owners to debunk it, asking the authorities to inspect their mines and certify total absence of women. There are hundreds of nast… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 08:37 AM |
| 8 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?I'm pretty sure women were actually sent down coal mines in 18th century England when the men were needed at harvest time. Being smaller than the average guy has historically been an advantage for miners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?Evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?By not having it easier, men become antifragile. Ask some people who have been in a difficult work situation and have seen a colleague fall to pieces, cry and cease to be of help to the task. What percentage of people describe this happening more often with male colleagues than female? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 07:50 AM |
| 3 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?Feminism is basically the nervous breakdown which results from the fact that most women are treated as men, and they're not able to deal with this, as it's contrary to anything that could occur in nature. That's why women who, having made themselves so obese that it's not easy to distinguish whether they're male or female, spend so much time and money on cosmetics, and abandon their minds to a histrionic church pretending to be a political movement, because it happens to revolve around femalenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Did you mean to imply that anyone who does not think that government should intervene in social matters is an extreme libertarian? Do you understand that "extreme" is a relative adjective? 90% of American voters would probably oppose legalizing heroin. That means that in the specific context of modern America legal heroin is an extreme idea. In the specific context of 1880s America, legal heroin is a totally normal, mainstream idea. Ideas change over time, as does what is considered "extreme" or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Better questions would be what current problem would be fixed from an increase in long-lasting relationships? Housing, for one. Two single people require two dwellings, but a lasting relationship allows for more efficient use of housing. The health system will be relieved as single people are less healthy overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Meh, the USA is a winner-take-all system. So unless you can find a way into the big tent of one of the two parties, you're out of luck. The actual Marxist left and the Klan-leaning right were, until recently, excluded from both main parties, although the Democrats appear to be opening up to the former as the adopt elements of the segregationism of the latter. Right now, the racist right isn't allowed into the GOP tent but I doubt that will last much longer now that the other party is relaxing it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Thanks man. I don't know why everyone says I should block you, you're cool ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?The government should not decide whether or not someone's life is worth living. And right now, with global population below 20 billion, that's an OK position to hold. If we get to 25 billion, though, we're going to have to take a more nuanced look at things if we want those 25 billion people to live to a ripe old age and not die of famine, war or other indicators of overpopulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?I'm just saying that you're extreme in the context of received opinion in the industrialized world. I'm not saying your ideas are wrong as such, just out of line with the ideas of the mainstream. In this thread, I'm looking for people with mainstream views. I am not passing judgement on those views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/18 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?We have a paid-for service that is 80% accurate, which is pretty good, but the inventor isn't a billionaire AFAIK. I don't think the market for such a service would be all that huge, even if accuracy was perfect. Based on the fact that almost nobody is interested enough to pay for 80% accuracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?I really don't know. Any answer I give might be sub-optimal, because the research hasn't been done yet. More work is needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Failing is part of the learning process to become better humans. If the process of failing produces new, miserable humans who cause bad social problems, I think we need to find less destructive ways of failing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?That anyone even thinks like this is one of the reasons you exist. Humans have always engaged in population control, even when the only way of doing so was infanticide. Now, we have the ability to do population control without killing anybody. You willingly live in a place which was only colonized by Europeans as a direct result of murderous population control against the native population, so there's an element of hypocrisy in your reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Yeah, but the OP implies that the test would be mandatory, or would have mandatory outcomes. Is she cool with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?The title said "Question for non-Libertarians." I am not a libertarian. I think certain things should be illegal, such as denying people's access to health care or corporate pollution that endangers the public's health. Sure, but the OP also clarifies that for the purposes of this thread, anyone who's open to the idea of legalizing heroin is considered a Libertarian. I mean, try and stand in a Democratic, Republican and Libertarian primary on a "Legalize Heroin" platform. Only one of those parti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?I would try an exhaustive review of all the known methods that have been used in the last 150 years, to find the ones that produced the best outcomes. That will be a starting point, and I don't really want to offer an opinion on what methods would end up being implemented until after I have seen the data. It would make sense to begin with some very different methods being used simulataneously, so that we can tell what works better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?So the marriage insurance would go... directly to the kids? To the parents, who we just trust to spend it on the kids? To some institution that oversees and allocates the money? How would that work exactly? We should experiment with lots of different systems, and abandon the ones which produce inferior results, while reinforcing the ones which produce good outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?While I see what you're getting at; and even though I don't necessarily disagree, I want to object one thing: what will you do about people who are exceedingly poor matches that basically always get a "relationship failure" result? Okay, it would be awesome for their prospective partners who would have dated them otherwise, but they'll still be a factor. They can live together and fuck like crazy for as long as they like. But in a hypothetical universe where science has proven they are a bad mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:03 PM |
| 0 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?I didn't say it would work. It's not about what would work. it's about psychology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Dude, that means you're off-topic. If a question is for Red Pill, you're not supposed to reply if you are blue pill. Likewise, you think heroin arguably should be legal, so you shouldn't be posting here, because it's clear in the OP that this is just a question for people who are certain heroin should stay illegal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?To take care of the pets the couple might have had. Yes, definitely the pets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Bad luck should be alleviated, bad decision should result in bad consequences for the one who made it. The moment we have such test with such reliability, failed relationship will stop being a bad luck and start being a bad decision. That is an unusually fine use of logic for this subreddit. Bravo, abaxeron! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Sorry, not curious enough to look up FTO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Outside the scope of the hypothetical. If you want, invent your own mode of operation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Do you agree that heroin should be illegal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Quite frankly I think that if we had such a cast-iron proof test, those relationship would significantly more rarely result in childbirth in the first place. No, we already have tests that are apparently 80% accurate in predicting divorce, but people still have failed marriages, indeed no fewer than a third of all marriages collapse. So we know that there is a very large hard core of people who are in doomed relationships, so doomed that it's possible to tell with a high degree of confidence bef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?Were you going to offer an opinion or a thought on the content of the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Question for non-Libertarians: What if we developed a test that guaranteed almost-certainty (99.9%) of failed relationships?what does that mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 12:01 PM |
| 3 | Sex dolls and Artificial Intelligence will never replace real relationships. When men pursue women, they aren't looking to have sex necessarily, they're looking to get selected. They want to be chosen. A sex doll will never be able to offer this.TRP has argued that prostitution should be legal, as this will increase competition among women. It won't. It's about being selected, that's why men pursue women. Prostitutes can't replace selection either. It's legal in many places in the world and it doesn't alter the amount of relationships there are. This is where the citation should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/18 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Radical feminists are the 'nice guys' of womenIt's an excellent showerthought. Sometimes extremely good insights such as the OP form without the need for much effort. That's why we need moderators with intelligence and subtlety, not simply a dude saying "INSUFFICIENT EFFORT DETECTED". The OP is of excellent quality and any moderator who can't see that should think long and hard about whether the role is a good fit for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Why are women more likely to feel "used" by sex?It's an evolutionary mechanism to prevent inferior sperm (as the woman sees it) from entering her vag. The woman uses the "women are wonderful effect" to control the behavior of men in the tribe, with the intent to get them to exert pressure on the inferior guy and dissuade future men from having sex with her unless they more perfectly meet her standards. None of this happens at a conscious level, and the woman is oblivious to it. It all takes place in the automatic processes, hidden away from t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 07:24 PM |
| -1 | Critique these feminist arguments people!On their own, those arguments are all acceptable, and viewed in isolation, they seem like valid perspectives, albeit somewhat shallow. Viewed in the context of specifically feminist argumentation, they are all examples of the most rancid feminist academic corruption. So it matters a great deal if their original author agrees with the feminist party line on women's issues. If not, hey it's a valid opinion! If so, pants seriously on fire. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/18 05:22 PM |
| 3 | What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women?And whose boyfriends are the sluts fooling around with on the side? It's pretty big of the girlfriends to be so accepting of the sluts, and insulting somehow to the dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 11:19 PM |
| 0 | What are behaviors that we accept in men but not in women?I mean, how does anyone get the idea that women are concerned with presenting a pleasant external appearance? Rookie season. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Is it too easy for men to have sex nowadays?Only 10 to 20% of dudes are well laid, and they're also unsurprisingly highly motived and successful I can guarantee you that a really high proportion of pussy magnets are actually incredibly childish men. Character is built from adversity and struggle. A kid who's always had his sexual desires satisfied with no effort will often become an incredibly ineffectual man, unable to do well in any problem that isn't solved by getting laid. Russell Brand is a pretty good example of the type. The charac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/18 07:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV: When men say "ladylike", they really mean "motherly".Breastfeeding your kid in public is certainly motherly. I don't know if it's considered ladylike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 08:37 PM |
| 1 | A simple test for women to experience what men must go through when they want to attract a female in online dating. Would you do it?So you were referring to a claim not made in the OP. Gotcha. Do you really need to do that? Can't you just respond to what's in the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/18 01:16 PM |
| 2 | A simple test for women to experience what men must go through when they want to attract a female in online dating. Would you do it?Because this incohorent version of "feminism" people refer to on here simply does not exist as a solid ideology Why is its coherence important? Are you suggesting that an incoherent ideology can't do damage to the fabric of society? Nazism was pretty incoherent, but it still managed to cause quite a bit of trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/18 12:35 PM |
| 1 | A simple test for women to experience what men must go through when they want to attract a female in online dating. Would you do it?The claim that I do not agree with is that most males are struggling to even get one date Most males are married, so I am VERY curious about who made the claim that most men are struggling. If I didn't completely trust your deep integrity, I might even imagine you were inventing that claim as a strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/18 12:33 PM |
| 1 | The Femitheist: The woman who believes that reducing the male population by 90% would bring about true equality and solve most of the worlds problems.If you want true equality on Earth, nuke it from orbit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 07:44 PM |
| 0 | If people could be jailed for using their SO as a beta bux, how would sexual strategy be different?Jesus, would you cool your effing jets? Ever heard of the Trolley Problem? Completely unrealistic hypothetical situation, but it is discussed in every Phil 101 class in the land. Sometimes you need to go to extreme hypothetical situations to dig down to the bottom of an issue. If you can't understand the importance of it, just leave us alone and do your own thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 04:40 PM |
| 0 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.OK, I will spell it out for you: Imagine a medieval-style nation where female promiscuity is socially acceptable. Many, many unmarried women will have kids. Some of these will survive the first childbirth, but a large number of orphans will be created as mothers die when they have subsequent kids. That's who is protected by chastity laws: the kids who are already born. Chastity laws ensure that the child will have a family when the mother dies in childbirth. That's why chastity laws are almost u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 09:19 AM |
| 1 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.First and foremost, I'm as repelled by the misogyny in the video linked in the OP as you are. I didn't see much recognition for the fact that a man had a lot more obligations than war, though war's important. He also had to donate many free weeks of labor in his lord's fields, and usually another number of weeks for the clergy. I'm a little dubious about how you compare a culturally-specific thing like military service with something that is rooted in biology such as death in childbirth. Ultimat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 08:33 AM |
| 1 | If men are more individualistic, stoic and emotionally repressed, then how did patriarchy emerge in the first place?Yeah I don't want to do that. Just because the Romans treated slaves as irrelevant, it doesn't mean I do too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Why is misandry more acceptable than misogyny?Well, it's the best explanation there is, so it's hardly a shock that it occurred to us both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Why is misandry more acceptable than misogyny?Men are expendable and thus worthless. Women are irreplaceable. If a tribe has one man and fifty women, the tribe will have a full population for the next generation. If a tribe has fifty men and one woman, it will not have a next generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutHere's proof that the site you linked is an enemy of free expression and supports the power to sue people into poverty for exercising their right to make humor in which the punchline revolves around rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutPlease don't be fooled by OP's selection. I have provided links below which could very easily and fairly be described as evil. And they come from precisely the same website which OP holds up as a shining example of non-extremism. If you don't care about evidence and just want to shake the pom-poms for feminism, fine. But if you're amenable to altering your opinions on the basis of evidence, I ask you to be slow to absolve feminism for its assault on facts, reason and the other Enlightenment valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 02:36 PM |
| 1 | If men are more individualistic, stoic and emotionally repressed, then how did patriarchy emerge in the first place?How many slave auctions have been held in North Korea? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutThis isn't extremist? (Eye roll) Here we see them support false rape accuser Emma Sulkowicz, and falsely label her victim as a rapist. The innocent man sued the college and gained a large settlement and an open declaration of his innocence from them. How is it not extremist to brutally smear an innocent man as a rapist? From the very same page, we see the following quote: I don’t know about you, but my feminism includes deconstructing masculinity along with femininity so seeing Aziz Ansari break… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutI agree, the post to which you are replying is me at my most sarcastic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 12:00 PM |
| 1 | If men are more individualistic, stoic and emotionally repressed, then how did patriarchy emerge in the first place?Yes, but even North Korea is freer than Imperial Rome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 11:58 AM |
| -1 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.It ensured that when a mother died, there was a specific guy who's duty it was to care for the remaining children. This was such a huge survival advantage that societies which didn't have such a rule literally couldn't compete with those who did. Eventually, every civilized society adopted the rule because it was the best survival strategy that existed at the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Is it bitterness or protectiveness that makes older women upset when older men express interest in younger women?"or"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 05:23 PM |
| 1 | If men are more individualistic, stoic and emotionally repressed, then how did patriarchy emerge in the first place?The only civilized societies which survived were the ones which were extremely authoritarian. The Romans were far more authoritarian than the barbarians. Despite the barbarians being stronger and taller, Roman discipline brushed away Celtic societies. You've gotta understand that the idea of "the individual is the only unit that matters" is a creation of modern technology. Before modern technology, women accepted a subordinate role to men because the men were her only chance to stay alive. If sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:47 PM |
| 1 | If men are more individualistic, stoic and emotionally repressed, then how did patriarchy emerge in the first place?Patriarchy is the only way to run a civilization when you don't have modern technology. If the fastest vehicle in your civilization is horse driven, you need patriarchy to allow the civilization to continue and be able to resist invasion. There never was a non-patriarchal civilization prior to 1900, because it couldn't exist. Read a book called "Guns, germs and steel" if you are interested in early civilizations and the evolution of patriarchy from a realistic, scientific perspective, shorn of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutMuch more than him. Read the multiple scientists on Heterodox Academy who also endorse the work. Guess what: scientists are not the final arbiters of the research they publish, the audience is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:10 PM |
| -2 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.How do you know the motives of men centuries ago? Almost all of them were illiterate, so they couldn't write down their motives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutNo, no, no. OP has read some blogs. Therefore she's now qualified to absolve all of feminism. If the thing feminism is accused of isn't on the blogs she read, how could it possibly be that feminism is actually guilty of it? Don't you know the law that clearly states that everything a feminist does, thinks or says must be faithfully recorded in the OP's blogs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutOne thing we've got to consider is that TRPers generally have low self awareness Terpers have low self awareness? They're Zen masters compared to the average feminazi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutExcept actual scientists in the field have endorsed the scientific accuracy of Damore's memo. You don't have to like the memo, but if you disagree with it, you're in the same company as young Earth creationists and flat Earthers. Science and feminism tell divergent stories, and it's impossible for both to be correct. Google have chosen the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutIf we want an accurate view of feminism, why would we look at blog posts made by people with very little influence in lieu of the people who actually write the books that students are required to read when doing Gender Studies? Bell hooks, Judith Butler, Martha Nussbaum, Andrea Dworkin and all that crap. How can you claim to have made any investigation into the topic without at the very least reading those books? How can you justify cherry-picking some low-effort snowflake crap and saying "I dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 03:08 PM |
| -4 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.Which is why society enforced rules of chastity, because they had no safe means of abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 02:51 PM |
| 1 | 'Women destroy civilisations' - I was wondering what everybody's take on this video is.Up until 1900, all civilizations required all participants to be obedient. Women had to sacrifice their free time for the family, men had to sacrifice their lives whenever the nation demanded it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't care about the things we say they care aboutWhy would you look at a blog instead of where 99% of feminism is taught: the books and articles which form the curriculum of Women's Studies? I will go out on a limb here: very few people read feminist blogs unless they have already been exposed to more official women's studies propaganda, straight from campus. It's like I wanted to do a study on Catholicism and instead of reading official Vatican-approved material, I took all my data from popular Catholic bloggers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 12:18 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.It's expressing skepticism about a factual assertion you made. If I assert that I can fly like a butterfly, I might very well feel terribly insulted if you were to express skepticism about my claim. I still think that you should have the right to express skepticism about any claim I make about any topic, including myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/18 10:29 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.We can also disagree with certain factual assertions. If a person who isn't nice claims to be nice, why can't we present evidence to say "I believe this evidence casts doubt on the poster's claim to be nice"? Because if the niceness of the person is the claim being debated, then we can't debate it without falling foul of the rules. The only way to make it fair is to also ban people from praising themselves, and you praised yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What qualities make a woman girlfriend material?Two major qualities. Be nice. Don't be a prick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?If a person doesn't have an excellent excuse for not reporting promptly, it's wrong to give them the benefit of the doubt, because you're robbing the accused of that samr benefit which is rightfully his. A person who unreasonably delays reporting has no right to be believed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?I think most people who are really sexually assaulted report it as soon as possible. I don't know what goes on in the heads of women who report assaults that never happened. Perhaps they're deluded, and have convinced themselves that it really occurred. In that case they're not lying, just deluded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?Usually in those situations I presume that it's regretted consensual sex. The woman had sex and days later the man does or says something that makes her want to punish him, maybe telling her he doesn't want to be monogamous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 12:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?Studies in psychology are worthless, in case you haven't been keeping tabs. You should look up "psychology reproduction crisis" to learn how bad the field has gotten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?There are also plenty of reports of people being probed by extraterrestrials. Video still required. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?I'm with you there. There's no justification for a law to prevent unwanted consensual sex between adults. Indeed we need to not have such a law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?That's just a bait-and-switch. The fact is that you have placed a legal obstacle before a woman who just wants to have sex the way she prefers. Most women do not want to indicate consent verbally or non-verbally. They wish the man to proceed until they indicate non-consent. That women's preference is no longer legal to fulfill in California. Women are legally forced to make signals against their will if they want to have legal sex in California. The SJWs are raping women's right to have consensu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?So what do you call it when the woman wants the sex to end, but doesn't signal that to the man in any way, and indeed pretends to want to continue? Not fair to call the guy a rapist, but she also doesn't want to have sex. If you don't call it unwanted sex, what do you call it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?This is why your crowd gets compared to Nazis: you're literally telling women that the way they have always had sex, and prefer to have it, is rape. Women like to initiate sex wordlessly, and heterosexual women who actually have sex prefer a system where her man can assume consent until she verbally withdraws it. That's how women prefer sex to begin: man and woman both silent in the initial stages. If a woman remains silent at the start, that always means she's happy to continue, for a good 99.9… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?Yes, because men are the functional equivalent of autistic children with knives and they’ll never be able to pick up on or understand social norms, nonverbal cues, or sometimes even direct communication, so you have to constantly spell out for them everything that is rape. What difference does it make if the new philosophy you promote infantilizes men and women, or just women alone. Regardless, all sex is rape under the logic implied by this stupid set of beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?No, actually: in most jurisdictions the duty is on the woman to indicate withdrawal of consent. If she fails to indicate this, and the encounter begins consensually, it's unwanted sex but not rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?yeah women should just stop having sex, I guess. I told everything I wanted, if I didn't change your mind, then oh well. That's about it. If there is no such thing as crisp, clear distinctions, then Andrea Dworkin was right: all heterosexual sex is rape. The human race needs to be immediately nuked from orbit to prevent any rapes from occurring in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?Freezing up is an involuntary response to a threatening situation for a lot of people. Do you have proof of this? I imagine it's true for profoundly metally ill people, but they can't legally consent either so it's kinda moot. But CCTV footage exists of millions of people in threatening situations, so if it exists, surely there is footage of it. I'll wait until I see the footage before I decide it exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are some rules of thumb for gaining and maintaining consent?If you're too timid to give clear signals, or "freeze" in uncomfortable situation, you are a child and should be guarded by a chaperone when in adult company. True dat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 08:55 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Phrased like that, I see nothing to disagree with, pretty reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 07:15 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Isn't that a trivial point? All conscious decisions are influenced by emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Things Women like about TrumpSigh... He agrees with your point. You're beating your fist bloody against an unlocked door. Please continue, this popcorn is delicious. The only way to make this any funnier is for you to soil your underwear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Things Women like about TrumpYou do realize that there's nobody alive who has clear memories of a time when women's rights weren't equal to men, right? The shit that happened to your ancestors has no impact on you. It's just a story. In fact, a lot of the stories you've heard about your ancestors are almost certainly extremely inaccurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Are women as sensitive to being seen as masculine, as men are to being seen as feminine?The interesting fact is that it got reported, while the hundreds of boys this happens to every year are a matter of total indifference to all. Any website editor putting up a story about the same thing being done to a boy will be yelled at for wasting time on a story that gets no clicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 02:50 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I don't want to feed into her paranoia: she's already accused me of stalking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 11:32 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.He needs a woman because his genes wish to propagate out into the next generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 11:30 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.You made an argument that hinged on a factual claim: your niceness. How can he argue against your argument if he's not permitted to express doubt or disbelief in the factual claim that you chose to present? You really should have expected people to start speculating about you when you used yourself as an example. People will argue against the example that is presented to them. It would infantilize you if we presumed you can't take it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 11:15 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.This thread is about relationships and barely anything to do with sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 12:17 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.OK, enough roughhousing. I've made a serious attempt to see if there's any common ground, so that the conversation might have some value. Sorry, I hate it when I inadvertently make someone feel like I'm picking on them. Upsetting people who are just arguing their point isn't what I set out to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 12:13 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If I’m any less nice now it’s because of the way men treated me. That doesn't prevent men from wanting niceness. And, as I've pointed out plenty of times, men tend to value niceness more as they mature, and have experience of what it's like to live with sexy but harsh women. Shortly after splitting with the hottest chick I've ever dated because of her terrible behavior, I dated some plain girls who were terrific between the ears and still had some sweetness left, and I can honestly say it was a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/18 12:06 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.To take another angle on it, men hate drama while women thrive on it. good point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 04:11 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I don't analyze that post because my Spidey-sense suggests to me that perhaps the author was not being entirely serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 01:13 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.You're literally giving it an extra D that doesn't fit. (I wonder what that might be about?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 01:02 AM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.And you need to take a chill pill and check your priviledge. (<sup>snort)</sup> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/18 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?Nature Vs nurture is a debate within science Not any more. Now the data is in and we know that genes control pretty much everything and nurture's impact varies from slight to none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 11:07 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Yes, I learned a lot of very nasty women think they were nice once. That's interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 11:00 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?I'm not going to teach you about genetics. If you want to believe stupid morality fables instead of falsifiable science, I don't care. I only care about people with an open mind and respect for the scientific method. If you think the feminist narrative can possibly compete with science, you were never going to be persuadable, so nothing is lost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:55 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.It was advice, not an order. To be honest, you need to get off the internet for a couple of months. Reconnect with real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:52 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?That's a question so retarded that I hereby award you the accolade of Feminist of the Year. Congratulations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:51 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I don't believe in "winning" arguments. I believe in getting incrementally closer to the truth through arguments. Winning or losing is for games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:13 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If I had said all men will love any woman providing she's nice, you would indeed have disproven that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:11 PM |
| 1 | A California Democrat, and a female Leader of #metoo movement....... is accused of sexual harassment and placed on administrative leave....Because 100% of the staff of that workplace are monkeys. Monkeys are actually quite sexual, as you might have discovered if you ever went to a zoo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:09 PM |
| -1 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?If you haven't been following the mind-boggling array of genetic discoveries made in the last decade, showing the roots in DNA of an amazing panoply of human behaviors, I pity you. Subscribe to Scientific American. There's some amazing work being done and you're privileged to live in this era. The dead hand of warmed-over marxism, with its superstitious hostility to genetics, is flat-Earthism pure and simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:52 PM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice."Proven"? LOL. Let's just say I'm not yet entirely convinced that the women who frequent a red pill spinoff subreddit represent a valid cross-section of womankind. Certainly there's a lot of people describing themselves as nice when the language they use indicates the precise contrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:48 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.College is a place where men are heavily outnumbered by women, so it's a skewed market. Every one of the guys who turned you down thought they could do better. I've never spoken to you before, as far as I can recall, and your first word to me is pretty darn aggressive and not especially nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:28 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If you didn't invite yourself, who did? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:25 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Are you referring to a time before online dating became a big deal? While I still assert that niceness is enough for a majority of adult men, I have already admitted that a majority of men in their twenties require more than that. I still think that about 40% of twentysomething men will also be happy with a woman whose niceness is all she has to offer. Assuming your bad experiences were with teenagers and guys in their twenties, your life experience isn't mutually exclusive with my thesis. You c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:24 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Who said it was? A person who appears to be in the grip of some kind of paranoid episode is accusing me of stalking, so I made the appropriate response. Nobody mentioned rules before you invited yourself into the exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:03 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Don't post on my threads, lady. If you do, expect me to respond, unless you say stuff that's boring to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:26 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?You're assuming the former causes the latter. There's no reason to assume that bullies don't simply have a greater impact on people who have congenital masochistic tendencies. But you assume it anyway because that's what feminists do. If there's any candidate hypothesis that doesn't involve genetics, they latch onto that like a tick that's found a juicy blood vessel. Then they smear the fuck out of geneticists for being waaaaacist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:24 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?Typical feminist, always running to whatever constructivist explanation comes to mind, despite the overwhelming evidence that genes tend to be responsible for most really weird behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think more men than women have an interest in sexual humiliation?Probably the same reason men are vastly more likely to get leukemia. A desire to be sexually humiliated is a deleterious mutation: something that harms the gene's likelihood of propagating itself into the future. A woman will only get leukemia if she has a copy of the necessary gene on both of her chromosomes. A man will get it if it's on one of his chromosomes. We've done the work to identify the genes for leukemia, the work to find the genetic roots of compulsive sexual humiliation lies before… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:07 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!Question for any man who'd consider going to the gym to get women: Would you still go to the gym if the three sexiest women on earth came to you and begged you to let them be your sister-wives? If the answer is "no, I wouldn't feel the need to go to the gym in that scenario", that leads to the following corollary: By going to the gym, you are paying for a slightly increased chance of sex, which is obviously inferior to paying a prostitute for sex, because at least in the latter situation you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:01 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I amended the OP to explain that high school boys aren't relevant to my point. If you have nothing to say about grown men, you have nothing to say on this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:48 PM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Thanks. I feel the women on here are massively overestimating the number of men who will hold out for unrealistically attractive women, but that's normal for sexists to make the least charitable assumption possible about the "other". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:40 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.How misogynist to say women shouldn't take the lead in this matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I agree and disagree. If he's capable of getting and maintaining an erection to completion with her, then she's attractive enough for the purposes of finding a companion. He may also consider her the least attractive woman he's ever touched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:29 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.That's actually a low bar. If a regular guy doesn't fap for a week, he can fuck a woman even if she looks exactly like Danny DeVito. So if she's ugly but super nice, no problem. He'll just stay dry all week then take one for the team every Friday night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 04:18 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I think the great silent majority of men are with you on this point. There is strong opposition to this claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 04:00 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.PMS is not a license to act like Vlad the Impaler That's the essence. The rest is funny variation on the theme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 03:58 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I see the single ones and I assume that they are happy to be single, otherwise they'd do online dating and get themselves a husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 03:22 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Why would a guy with anxiety choose to approach the nastier / crueler Woman? Horniness, and maybe nastier women are easier to approach. If a nasty woman shoots you down, you can console yourself by saying "oh well, she is a bitch, so no biggie" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 03:19 PM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.They're totally visible to me. I have been pointing out their existence throughout the thread. Nice ugly women get husbands just as easily as beautiful, nasty, snarky women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 03:12 PM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Men require that she be both nice & young and attractive That's probably true of a slim majority of men in their twenties, I'll give you that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 02:36 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I'm just pointing out that a man can have approach anxiety and still prefer niceness to all other traits. For example, a guy can be more into nice women, but will only have the guts to approach nastier, more flirtatious women. Saying "I wasn't approached" doesn't disprove the thesis of "most men prefer niceness above all else". Another reason could be that men assume that the nicest women are out of their league. "She's so nice, why would she choose me when she can have anybody else?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksAttractive men get divorce raped every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 02:20 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice."Go for" and "love" are different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:59 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Men require that she be both nice & young and attractive Yet observe the beasts who get married in their millions every year. These ladies certainly lack youth or beauty, but I bet they have personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:56 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Yup. When everyone else is a Klingon, a snarky human jerk seems like the nicest thing ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:34 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Yet the absolute majority of women getting married every year are unattractive. Something doesn't fit with your theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:33 AM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.How would you know? Your only experience of being nice around males while single is with high school boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:21 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.You not being approached doesn't contradict the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:20 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Where does the word 'approach' appear in my OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:15 AM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Interesting that I never said "approach". I said "love". Does everyone here use those words interchangeably? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksBut he will treat you poorly and he will be dissatisfied with you There are tens of millions of men who have never been anyone's boyfriend, and would relish the opportunity to treat you the way you tell him you want to be treated, within the bounds of reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:43 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I’m talking about my teenaged years, which took place before Reddit even existed I've clarified that I was only speaking about men. Matured male adults. Also I assumed heterosexuality and not being a monk. So the only experience that counts is that which you had with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:34 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If niceness is unavailable, then looks will be accepted as a substitute. At least she can be pleasant to look at if not to talk to. Also, it's easier to tell from a distance if she's pretty, niceness can only be observed in person, usually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 09:26 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Ah yes, the tragic story of the poet's unrequited love for the evil baron's daughter... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:34 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I'm just talking about single women who have had a reasonable opportunity to find a relationship. My bad, I should have been specific. Obviously their married and dating female friends are likely to be more agreeable on average. It's not that they see the entire female sex like that. It's only confined to the specific demographic group, which is very diverse across all the major spectra of interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:32 AM |
| 4 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Be nice, and you'll find out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:22 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.What's your preferred state of being: more or less agreeable? If one's inner nature is to be direct, commanding and ready for trouble, trying to act nice will be difficult to do convincingly, and seeing a person obviously fake niceness is unpleasant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:21 AM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.A majority of available women have bad personalities, because the nice women don't stay single long, because a hot guy finds them and quickly takes the golden opportunity to wife them up as quickly as is socially acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:00 AM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.The first time I saw that phrase I assumed it referred to masturbation while voiding the bowels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:18 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.They are. Hundreds of such women get married everyone weekend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:14 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Well, if the only women you have a shot with are sour-tempered jerks, of course you're going to choose the most decorative one to take the edge off the pain caused by her unpleasant character traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksNice people will sacrifice honesty for the sake of harmony. If you opt to do the opposite, you're maybe not all that nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksPeace out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:07 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If you choose a guy in the 15% instead of the 85%, it doesn't work. But that's why it's important to use wisdom when choosing mates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:06 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I said "men". A group which does not contain high schoolers. Boys are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksYou said what you said out of hostility. In five minutes I'll have forgotten about you, but you have to live with that hostility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:02 PM |
| 5 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksMost people will interpret such caustic characterizations as indicative of strong hostility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksHow was a reader to know that if he's not gifted with telepathy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their Looksthey think thirsty omegas "love" the martha dumptrucks they get stuck with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:54 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.You mentioned high school, when social status is the universal obsession. Getting shot down by a fat chick is social death, so guys are terrified to take the risk. Chances are you're not her type, so the risk-reward calculation says 'no'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:52 PM |
| 6 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I am a man and I know my kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:48 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.If the average (edit: single!) woman acts like a monster, then just trying not to be like that makes you significantly above average and thus nice, in comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:48 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.They rationalize it because the SUV is good for the kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:45 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I disagree with your point. I think men who think like that dominate TRP, but are a small minority of the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:44 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.What is that supposed to mean? Can you really not decipher what it means? Hint: it isn't criticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksNice people don't make non-specific sex slurs about half the human race. How the hell was any reader supposed to infer that you weren't attacking me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:39 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.It does, however, tend to mean "offends people significantly less than the average" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:36 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Given that incels aren't allowed on this sub to defend themselves, it's douchey to keep taking free shots at them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksThose are metaphors, not examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksJeeze Louise, how does a person get such a hate-boner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:30 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I completely disagree with your point. Men exist who don't care about niceness and just want sex. But they're like 3 out of every 20 men. The other 17 guys have niceness as their sole requirement, or very nearly so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:24 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.The second part of your sentence grows out of the first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:19 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I notice you imply your nice days are behind you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:17 PM |
| 4 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.I bet there are at least three men very happily married to nice landwhales within a 200 foot radius of you right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:16 PM |
| 3 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:12 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.So if I read through your posts on reddit, I'll see lots of niceness and very little snark? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:11 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.But that isn't thier only requirement. That's true. They also require the woman to be alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksI think it's more that I define niceness as "not calling a stranger a twat just because we see things differently". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:07 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Except that's bullshit, or else ugly woman would never marry, and they do it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:05 PM |
| 2 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Were you nice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:04 PM |
| 1 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Men are perfectly happy to tolerate one bad week per month if she tries not to be a monster the rest of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:03 PM |
| 0 | The supposed "nice guy" paradox comes from the fact that most men will love any woman provided she's nice.Never said there are a lot of hot nice men, and the ones who exist don't spend a long time on the market. But this thread is about men and their requirements for niceness above and beyond all else in a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:51 PM |
| 5 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksYou're so nice! You must be a real hit with the gentlemen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:47 PM |
| 3 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksI meant to add that being nice is sufficient to be loved. So few women try this that they have convinced themselves it doesn't work. Be nice, and you'll have all the love you can stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:33 PM |
| 8 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksSome pots also realize that there's no reason for the pot to GAF whether it has a lid or not. Men are can-do, goal-oriented beings. Once they learn that being a pussy beggar is, at best, a horrible, shitty risk profile, they can re-organize their minds to find joy in life without making their happiness hostage to a being that cares only for her own wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksExamples? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 08:19 PM |
| 27 | Many, Many Women are Unlovable Because of Their LooksIf an ugly woman makes an effort not to be a vile person, acts and dresses feminine, and accepts that she needs to select a man not ridiculously far above her league in looks, she'll quickly find men, and will be husbanded up rapidly. Every ugly woman I have ever known who was in a happy, stable relationship was pleasant and agreeable. I have never met a pleasant, agreeable woman who wasn't able to get a man. I knew one really ugly chick with thick facial hair, but she was great company and an a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 08:18 PM |
| 2 | In what ways are women actually oppressed and not just discriminated against?Discrimination is illegal and easy to prove Only if the standards of proof are reduced to nearly nothing, such as the Title nine sexual misconduct system on campus, where an accusation guarantees a conviction almost without exception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Why Men Get Accused of Rape Days After The Fact and Why Women are Right to Do ThisIf it's unintentional, then by definition it cannot be an act of criminality. Crime is defined by intent. Unfortunately, some lawmakers are corrupt and pretend that unintentional crime is a thing: they pass laws which subject people who had no evil intent to punishment which is usually reserved for people who have intentionally or recklessly done a bad act. But the moral core is still there, despite corrupt law: if it's an accident, no honest person may call it a crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 04:58 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop putting down gold diggersWell, he is the world's most powerful man, so it seems to have worked for him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 01:35 PM |
| 7 | Men need to stop putting down gold diggersTrump doesn't care that every woman he's fucked is bought and paid for. He regards women as just another purchase. It's the blue pilled men who want their women to be attracted to them for things like their personality and sense of humor. Men who buy trophy wives know what's up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:37 AM |
| 2 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?It's not quite that. Getting rejected by a hot girl has a social cost for a guy. Getting rejected by the plain girl has a vastly higher cost. You're signaling lower status by attempting to get with the plain girl, and being rejected by her is interpreted by the group as a loss of status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?I don't think anyone sensible ever suggested plain women get more attention. The point is that plain women can get laid more easily. Also, plain women can get attention: I never knew a plain woman who couldn't get male attention by being feminine and flirtatious. And if you can obtain a bra that gives you cleavage, so much the better. But sure, if a plain woman makes no effort to get it, she'll possibly be starved for attention. Is that unexpected? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?Yes, it's like being a regular man, with less difficulty getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?When a male bloop asserts that it's easy to get laid, it's a humble brag. Women saying the same thing are probably just solipsistic and unable to imagine that the other sex experiences things differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 09:28 AM |
| 2 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?I'm not asking anyone to do anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?Except is it really a privilege when it's a completely self-imposed burden? Lithuanian-Americans don't seem to worry too much about being connected to their Lithuanianness on a day to day level. Italian-Americans, well that's a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?How exhausting to have to perform a "I'm connected to blackness" pantomime as well as deal with actual issues. I guess it is a privilege not to constantly be under pressure to enact specific cultural norms instead of whatever feels right in the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?Assume two identical women, 187lbs and 5'4. Pleasant face but no knockout. First is very hood, second is MC. How will they fare with their counterparts in the SMP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?They both generally fit white physical ideals and cultural mores | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:01 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Chads are just Nice Guys who got what they wantedI've known Chads of all personality types. The only requirements to be Chad is a desire to have a bunch of FWBs and the looks/charm required to obtain them. After that is in place, anything goes: Chad might be happy or a severe depressive. Could be lazy or a workaholic, aggressive or passive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:00 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Chads are just Nice Guys who got what they wantedA guy who can consistently score once for every 50 failures will happily rack 500 women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Can average African-American women easily attract a non-AA male in the USA? If so, what level?Like MLK and Barack did? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 07:53 PM |
| 1 | TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society.What you call "slight" may not be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 05:38 PM |
| 2 | TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society.Thanks for enforcing clarity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 05:36 PM |
| 2 | TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society.Also, the "Alphaness" evolved in a situation where every young man was expected to serve his community as a warrior against other communities. The natural attrition from warfare prevented these alphas from dominating the society by limiting their numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 12:25 PM |
| 1 | TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society.You do understand that there are options outside the African-American community? There are millions of Asian men who will be pathetically grateful to have any woman at all, and will be massively more dutiful to their offspring than the irresponsible men you describe in your OP. If these women can see beyond ethnicity, there's a solution to their problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 12:22 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If a woman gives blowjobs to other guys but not her current guy, she isn't attracted to her current guy.Why should she want to please you as much as Chad? Well, at least she can be honest: "I don't think you measure up to my previous lovers so get used to me giving a small fraction of what I gave them" There's plenty of pussy beggars who'll take that deal, all she has to do is be honest. But if she lies to a self-respecting guy, that's unacceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/18 12:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If a woman gives blowjobs to other guys but not her current guy, she isn't attracted to her current guy.You could say she was more anxious to please her previous lover than her current lover That's not better. Whether it's arousal or just desire to please, we don't want to be on a lower level. "She just doesn't want to please you as much as she wanted to please Chad" is not very comforting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 07:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If a woman gives blowjobs to other guys but not her current guy, she isn't attracted to her current guy.Actually being castrated is more emasculating, by definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Are there high-value males in MGTOW?And the strong genes belong to poor, uneducated deadbeat dads who have 9 kids with 9 different women. All of those things would have been either irrelevant or unimportant in the ancestral environment of early humanity. And, of course, a certain proportion of their ancestors will have lived a hunter gatherer life as recently as 700 years ago, if they have any tropical ancestry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 10:16 AM |
| 3 | At 42 (M) one thing I realized is I'm not chasing anymore. The script has flipped. When I was younger, women held the cards, at this age...men control the escalation. Women my age fear being alone, men don't.Let's engage with the topic with some insight from evolutionary psychology: Well, at age 42 a typical ancestral male would have seen many of his female contemporaries had died in childbirth. Women over the age of 35 routinely surviving childbirth is a very new phenomenon. So it definitely makes sense from an evolutionary perspective for both genders to cool down the urgency to copulate once they reach the age where getting pregnant is, at best, a game of Russian roulette. Exception: if the woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 10:09 AM |
| 3 | Where's the actual Patriarchy?precede proceed You are hereby expelled from the spelling bee ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 02:06 PM |
| 14 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?Because the analogy fits the real-world behavior of people. Men pursue sexual opportunities and women mostly avoid them, most of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Would Aziz have been accused of sexual assault or had an uncomfortable ordeal if he was much more attractive?Or maybe you have an unusual taste in male beauty and guys whom you consider to be ugly look just fine to most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 10:44 AM |
| 9 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?Explain how the first sentence is true. If a woman rejects you for sex, do you really think a relationship is gonna happen? "Wanna bang?" "No" "Aww. Wanna date?" "Hell yeah!" I see some realism issues here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 04:55 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] We all agree that it's harder for guys to get casual sex, but is it harder to get a relationship too?The theory, as I see it, is that ugly women appear to have sex with men who are out of her league for a relationship, then after that happens a couple times, they declare all men to be scum and become obese and celibate, all without ever once trying a man within her league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] A man is who is less attractive isn’t necessarily going to be nicer.News flash: women with unusually tight vaginas do not show better than average chess skills. Counseling is available for those of you whose brains melted due to this stunning news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Would Aziz have been accused of sexual assault or had an uncomfortable ordeal if he was much more attractive?Done that, have visited all continents except Antarctica. None of the nations I have lived in or visited or seen onscreen are in any way as you describe. Can you tell me where you think I'll find these ugly broke men with hot girlfriends? I do know tons of ugly guys with hot girlfriends, but they sell cocaine for a living and those girls sniff a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 04:42 PM |
| 3 | For the men who value family, what's the worse fate? "Beta Bux" or single?Scenario 1 is great. It means I won at life. I made tiny Mes and successfully raised them. You know what also does that? Cockroaches. You want to derive meaning by imitating the cockroach? Have at it, hoss. But the only way to do that is to enslave yourself to a woman, and you're her bitch for the rest of your life. Better hope you pick a good one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Would Aziz have been accused of sexual assault or had an uncomfortable ordeal if he was much more attractive?Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Would Aziz have been accused of sexual assault or had an uncomfortable ordeal if he was much more attractive?Worldwide these kinds of men have constant dating success. His face may be ugly but the bank balance has an overwhelming beauty. This is true even if the woman herself is rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | The fact that many women are actively repulsed by anything manosphere related sort of proves that women are fueled mainly by emotion, right?Not necessarily. Men are excessively sensitive to the whims of women in a way that is not reciprocal. Women may just be using expressions of disgust as a fairly reliable lever to control easily led men. It doesn't follow that men are inordinately worried or obsessed about it, it may just be a useful tool in their armory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/18 02:24 PM |
| 0 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.How did you fail to understand the piece you quoted? Didn't I explain it really really clearly 5 times? How did the correct explanation pass you by, again and again and again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.You remain completely wrong. I have no lack of understanding of the legitimate role of government in consent. You are failing to understand that the point here is the government mandating excessive duplication of consent statements. I'll try and explain it for you so that you can finally understand the issue: Imagine you have a friendly neighbor called Sally. Sally and you have an arrangement, a written deal that you can enter Sally's house any time between dawn and sundown to take a cup of suga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.has the right, for want of a better word, to not have sex with their partner even if they've consented in the past Of course. There's a very specific, clear provision in my OP. If person wishes to withdraw consent, he may do so whenever he pleases. I really fail to see how you can possibly be confused about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/18 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.The comment you quoted is a direct reference to the issue explored in the OP. It's pointless to separate them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Because thought experiments are useful. John Rawls is rightly praised for his utterly impossible "veil of ignorance" thought experiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Your explanation was wrong. Your explanation was based on a misreading of the OP. You should delete your post, make some coffee and read it again carefully. Ask questions in good faith if you become confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.You made an erroneous explanation and I made it clear why your explanation is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Yes you can. What's to stop the USA from changing its constitution and laws, if the people and politicians were to agree to do so? I don't say it is likely, merely entirely possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .Them, and other humans too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 08:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .I reserve the right to have unenthusiastic sex without the government being empowered to intervene. If you don't agree, I call you a fascist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.It binds them to have sex with their husbands only if they freely entered into the agreement and if she wishes to stop at any point she need only say so. We're not talking politics here, we're talking morals. You may have noticed the two are very different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.No, if you want to have an arrangement with your husband that he needs to get a fresh signed consent document from you every 90 seconds, otherwise he's guilty of rape, that's totally fine with me. I'm opposed to the government dictating to you how often you must give consent. That's your business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.To your first question: depending on circumstances, yes. It goes to the very heart of personal autonomy. In practice there will have to be tests to ensure mental soundness. Conflict is irrelevant to my OP. Unless you mean the conflict caused by one party to the agreement reneging and attempting to use the courts as a weapon against their ex-partner. In such a case the vindictive ex-partner should automatically lose the suit when it's proven that the assumed consent agreement was in force, and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Being a Chad isn't really that impressiveThe incels are by definition not contributors to the overpopulation problem. It sounds like you would cheer for the villains in Idiocracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.The procedure to withdraw consent is fully explained and dealt with fully in the OP. Your point is thus not relevant to this discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Then change the rules so that you can. It's not about this rule or that law, it's about right and wrong. You have to be clear about right and wrong before you codify it into law. If the existing legal or constitutional configuration prevents right from being upheld, the moral imperative is to modify the laws and the constitution so that they are no longer an obstacle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Is it? I thought it was a subreddit where you get to say "This is a subreddit for debate, not a fucking high school True or False test" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.We're arguing right and wrong, not courtroom procedure or the current legal position as it pertains to contract law. Your point about enforcement is off-topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.I don't advocate for people to be raped in prison for giving vague answers, but the feminazis proposing EC absolutely do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.And I reject the argument that the Government has the right to insist on more than one expression of consent per partner per lifetime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.I'm sorry you were forced to reply to it, it must have been very traumatic for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .What if I later decide to change my mind and pretend that the consensual sex was not consensual? When it comes to trial my partner will be asked if he sought my enthusiastic consent and will answer in the negative, because our explicit, signed agreement at the time was that consent was always assumed unless verbally rescinded. Depending on how the law is framed, my partner might be in legal jeopardy because of the failure to obtain enthusiastic consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.The government's 'right' to meddle in sex has to do with the power we've given it to protect people from violence and harm Harm comes in myriad forms, many of them utterly consensual. We have a right to harm ourselves, such as by consuming high fructose corn syrup, and we have a right to consensually have others harm us: such as by engaging in a football game, or getting a tattoo. The government only has a right to regulate non-consensual harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.The post in question was entirely unambiguous, making an explicit "yes" unnecessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.It isn't. You were challenged to provide an argument and you provided no such thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 04:40 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .There are some people who prefer to just lay their quietly, but that is something that can easily be ascertained through conversation The whole point is that both participants do not wish to engage in conversation of any kind: neither verbal nor non-verbal. They want their sex to be free of all communication, unless a participant wishes to cease. Then and ONLY then do they want communication to occur, and they insist on zero state interference in their sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Women are wonderful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Then the constitution needs to be amended to strip the courts of the power not to honor sexual consent contracts. Simples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.That's not an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 02:09 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .No you haven't, because it's my and my partner's mutual wish to continue in silence and without making any non-verbal signals. You have fixed nothing. The problem is that people are trying to get the state to meddle in consensual adult sex. That's the ONLY problem in the OP. Everything else is perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Oh I didn't know you'd got a boyfriend, congratulations. Plus, there was no ambiguity in the rest of your post, so the yes wasn't strictly necessary. I make no apologies for pushing for clear unambiguous replies in a debate sub. Clarity is wholly appropriate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:23 PM |
| 4 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Amen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Do you feel proud that a Frenchman has better reading comprehension than you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.I am enjoying it. Your insight is strong. I'd still appreciate a yes or a no, if you would be so kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:03 PM |
| 2 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.If you were being earnest you would have provided the requested yes or no, or given a good reason why neither was possible for you. I took your post as snark disguised as earnestness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.Then you oppose the sexual freedom of me and my partner and I do not recognize your right, or any government's right to so interfere. From whence comes a government's right to meddle in the consensual sex which occurs between adults? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 12:19 PM |
| 3 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.That's a "no" as per the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 12:14 PM |
| 4 | Q4 supporters of the enthusiastic consent legal requirement.That's not a yes or a no. Please provide same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 12:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .What if I want to have the right to consent to unenthusiastic sex? When I go to work, it's often without enthusiasm. I don't think I should be prohibited from going to work because I am insufficiently enthusiastic about it. Enthusiasm is nice to have, but consent is correctly assumed from the absence of a "no", and any person or law who says otherwise is retarded and immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 11:26 AM |
| 4 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .Letting sex happen is NOT consent. Yes it is. That's what having agency means. Sole exception: people with locked-in syndrome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Being a Chad isn't really that impressiveI think you're skating over some rather significant achievements quite separate from calculus. Let's get serious: literally every species has a biological imperative to reproduce. For any individual, the reproductive urge is the least special, least unique factor in his whole psychological makeup. Fucking worms want to reproduce. Bacteria living in the earth that passes through the worms have a reproductive urge. Humans have this amazing gift that no other animal is known to possess: we can rise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Spinoff: Should you date a man who’s been “falsely” accused of rape?Actually, I see feminists every day. you don’t see women being whiny little bitch babies about it. On the contrary, my dear, feminists do little else apart from sleep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Seeing that most men are below average in looks and bad at sex. Why don't women visit prostitutes more often?Titty bar's a strange place, they got a weird morality... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 09:31 PM |
| 6 | Being a Chad isn't really that impressiveIsaac Newton died a virgin. genetically he doesn't matter at all. Long after humans are gone, the artifacts that he sent to the cosmos will be there for future species to know that we ever existed. His legacy will outlast the human genetic legacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 09:28 PM |
| 5 | Being a Chad isn't really that impressive"Beta male" only makes sense in a particular context, which is a competition for access to pussy. If a guy has GHOW and no longer regards dick-wetting as the main motive in life, he's not a beta. If he's still desperate to get into a woman's panties, yes he's a beta. If he's grown beyond the need to be a pussy slave, and no longer spends his energy on that game, then the word doesn't fit. Isaac Newton never cared about getting his dick wet, and thanks to him, humanity walked on the moon. He matt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 03:09 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill/feminism has failed in it's response to broken lost men who need a father figure - hence Cernovich, J Petersen ETCYour best response is a snotty attack on a person's grammar? Expect me to inform you of every error you write. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/feminism has failed in it's response to broken lost men who need a father figure - hence Cernovich, J Petersen ETCThey also planned to replace the patriarchy with an alternative system to sustain the population. They succeeded in their attempt to destroy the old regime. That's always the easy part. Replacing the old regime with something that can possibly survive: that's where they screwed up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill/feminism has failed in it's response to broken lost men who need a father figure - hence Cernovich, J Petersen ETCIt destroyed the only remaining community for men to be a part of. What replaced it is still an unknown entity. Early signs are that the population collapse caused by feminism will render it a short-lived phase in human history. Unless feminist nations find a way to get their own citizens to reproduce sufficiently, the grim reaper will kill feminism inevitably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 02:15 PM |
| 7 | Being a Chad isn't really that impressiveI got a phrase for ya: disregard bitches, acquire currency Another option is to disregard women and riches. Just acquire enough money to have interesting hobbies, good porn and no stress. Leave all the effort to the pussy beggars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Spinoff: Should you date a man who’s been “falsely” accused of rape?That's illegal and you should be punished for it. Did you skip every citizenship class? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Spinoff: Should you date a man who’s been “falsely” accused of rape?If you warn your friends, that's probably illegal slander, and immoral at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/18 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.Evidence to show that the above is the norm rather than the exception is needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.K | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.That's what I'm asking you to quote for me. Pick the example that most exemplifies your hypothesis and we'll examine it to see if a non-misogynist explanation exists. You're asserting that the conclusion naturally follows, so it's time to present the evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Is Alpha/Beta a binary, a sliding scale, or just not useful at allApparently female-writer erotica uses "alpha male" a hell of a lot. Apparently women get aroused by the concept more than they'd admit in their Intersectional group meetings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Is Alpha/Beta a binary, a sliding scale, or just not useful at alla hidden ovulation cycle We shouldn't assume our early ancestors couldn't sense when she was ovulating. Modern life with its frequent use of soap, and the fact that we spend a long time apart, maybe lets us forget just how smelly early humans probably were. I can't imagin any guy who wants his seed to people the land letting every other thirsty dude of the tribe pile on his pussy. Actually, communal fucking rituals, where every woman fucks a guy she would normally not, are recorded in a lot of h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 08:11 PM |
| 0 | Is Alpha/Beta a binary, a sliding scale, or just not useful at allMany do. Generally, those who are "alpha" in terms of money and fame are exponentially more likely to live the bighorn sheep lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Is Alpha/Beta a binary, a sliding scale, or just not useful at allWe shouldn't focus too much on chimps, I think. They don't cooperate very well, but humans are excellent at that. They diverged from the human line a long time ago, there's reason to think they became more aggressive than our common ancestor and perhaps less collaborative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.If they are, they probably prefer the familial stability and family image but are cheating left and right. There's a group of people I'd like you to meet, who are spherical, loyal and faithful. They're called "the middle class with college degrees". Nice people, you'll be surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Is Alpha/Beta a binary, a sliding scale, or just not useful at allFrom the evo-psych perspective, most men are non-alphas, and in an ancestral scale, "Alpha" is usually a one-guy position. Having more than one alpha generally means there will be violence between the two candidates until one is beaten down into non-alpna status. In any ancestral group you won't have more than thirty young males. However people get killed, and you see in among monkeys, when the alpha gets old and a little slow, he's swarmed by all the rivals at once and eaten alive. One of the g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.Seriously dude, guys very rarely break up a long-term relationship over attractiveness. If a guy is in a relationship with a woman, and she doesn't cheat or treat him like a monster, he will stay as long as he lives. She can swell up like a balloon and grow a beard. The guy will stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.Except an adult talking about the sexiness of children is already a realible indicator of pedophilia. It's unreasonable to hear an adult talking about a sexy child and imagine he isn't a pedophile. Show me the example sentence in the study where misogyny is the only vaguely reasonable explanation, in the same way that pedophilia is the only reasonable explanation for a guy talking about how sexy children are. I bet you can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 01:49 PM |
| 3 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.so all it really proves is that women thing men who indulge in rants about gender are misogynists unless they say otherwise You say that as if it's a small thing. Here's a thought experiment: everyone who meets you assumes you're a white supremacist pedophile unless you specifically tell them otherwise. If that was true of you, I bet you wouldn't dismiss such appalling prejudice so lightly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.The problem is, which you would know if you had ever spent time in an area where median income is below $60,000, is that obese women with horribly ugly faces spend much of their time pregnant because while they aren't attractive enough to get on Vogue, they're plenty attractive enough to continue getting pregnant the natural way. Regardless of the "message" women might get that excessive makeup and low body weight is somehow necessary to become sexually attractive to males, the evidence is right… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone even want a sex bot?It depends. How much do you want for it? Have you cleaned her thoroughly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Does "I idolize someone" imply that a change of some kind has taken place? I think part of "idolizing" is that you attempt to convert others to also worship your personal idol. Depends on context, of course. Publicly praising the person you worship is an attempt to convince waverers to commit to worshipping the target. But if your point is that the users of the word "idolize" are also speaking imprecisely, that's true too. The word "idolize" has no current political controversy attached, so the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 06:02 PM |
| 12 | Why are women getting so triggered by sex bots?Porn is offensive because you use our image in your fantasies. Then get used to being offended on behalf of attractive people! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Because it implies a change of some kind taking place. Instead of saying that he takes asexual asphalt, performs Misogyny Magic, says abracadabra and wow! Sexual asphalt, the correct thing to say is that he views asphalt as sexual. A word ending with -ize is inappropriate because that suffix specifically implies a change, while the situations described do not involve changes. Saying that he sexualizes asphalt implies that he first sees asphalt in an asexual manner, then engages in some form of c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 04:19 PM |
| 9 | Why are women getting so triggered by sex bots?I'm certain that is untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Why are women getting so triggered by sex bots?Same reason they don't like porn. They like to control men with sex. Heh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?That's your error. You continue with the delusion that the woman gets to decide whether her actions are perceived as sexually arousing. She does not. It doesn't matter whether she was trying to be as asexual as a rock or hypersexual. Irrelevant. The only thing that decides whether it is sexual or asexual is the libido of the beholder. If the beholder thinks that a woman wearing glasses is sexy, it is sexy. Whatever generates a sexual response is sexy. If a guy has a fetish for asphalt, seeing as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/18 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?"I did something completely normal and some creep sexualized it" That's a perfect example of the statement being meaningless, or more precisely, false in regards to facts. The truth: a man saw her, and was sexually aroused by the sight. The claim: the man used his Patriarchy Rays to transform her behavior from something "normal" to something "non-normal" and sexual. This claim, invented by you, is a perfect example of the feminist corruption of meaning using tricks stolen from Foucault and Derri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Thanks for being a rare voice to oppose badly-argued proposals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Objectively doesn't mean "I really strongly believe this". How would you explain the "objective" creepiness to an alien who has no similar phenomenon on his planet? How do you persuade him that it objectively exists, and isn't merely a difference in opinions? If you can't, it's not objective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Like Jesus objectively takes care of you and listens to your prayers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?A woman does not have the right to be invisible to low-value males. They have a right to see what they see and react to it in ways which do not interfere with the woman's life. The only right the woman has is not to be interfered with physically. Anything the man does short of that doesn't affect her and consequently is not subject to her veto. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Society used to also condemn people for being Jewish in the same way. Taking upskirts is, in the final analysis, not inherently any more harmful than being Jewish. You're using society's pre-existing prejudice against an unpopular minority as justification for that prejudice. That's not an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 11:14 AM |
| 0 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Nope, it's objectively creepy. Saying it don't make it true. People have dfferent levels of creepy, like really different levels. There's germophobic people on one end and really gross people on the other. There are people for whom it is not true. For them, you are the intruder, and you objectively have no grounds for intrusion. They have not deprived anyone of anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/18 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?That's creepy You're telling everyone that "this thing gives me a negative feeling, ergo it should be forbidden to all". No sweetheart, if something makes you feel creepy, that means you need to forbid yourself from doing it. Last I checked, the rest of the world didn't surrender its decision-making functions to you and whatever you do or don't find creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Early, but this is a prominent feminist propaganda outlet which alleges that sexualized images literally cause suffering to all women. The only way such images should ever hurt an intelligent human being is if a bushel of them fall on her. Another We can show a correlation between violence and sexualization in media and its effect on women, but we “can’t show a causation.” Notice the quotes surrounding "can’t show a causation". That implies that the writer would have the reader believe that sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?Why not out in the street? If he's taking a picture out in public, why is that bad but not in the privacy of his home? What if he's in his own home, taking pictures of women in light clothing as they walk by? As far as I know, that's legal. What is the underlying moral principle that tells you a man cannot take images? I don't think you have a principled objection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?when really he's the one sexualizing her But the guy down the thread says she isn't affected, so society has no reasonable grounds to interfere with the guy taking photographs, because it doesn't hurt anyone. The basic rule of all good law: if no man is affected by the action, the state/society is not permitted to intervene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?The core error is they pretend that the woman is in some way affected when a man gets hot & bothered about her, which is just a weird thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Question about terms (because debate needs agreed terms): what do you mean when you say 'sexualize'?That's obviously a lie. Every day, an educator in an American university makes that exact claim to a room full of students. It's normal course content nowadays. Don't piss on our face and tell us it's raining. I can't believe that you expect people to buy this shit. People can see the crap in feminist academia: it's being made famous. Whiteness is equated to toxicity, etc. I haven't read the rest of this thread yet but if this is the level of feminist denial then maybe I should just watch Seinfe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Widows and Stacie Widowers (mostly the latter)Yech! That's the problem with male single-mindedness is it gives you deviants like the guy in the OP. Bear in mind that he doesn't have much sex so his kind is hopefully less likely to perpetuate his genes in the species more than regular men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 06:56 PM |
| 1 | "But not everyone is like that"Yes, obviously such a rule would be useful, but we need a whole new moderation team to allow it to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 02:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As long as women prefer masculine men as sexual partners, "Toxic masculinity" will never go away.That's only true if you are using logic, which has been supplanted by intersectionality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/18 06:25 AM |
| 3 | Would you allow a sexbot in your relationship?How you doin'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/18 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Would you allow a sexbot in your relationship?eventually the AI will be so advanced that the male sexbots and female sexbots will just start having sex with each other and running off together You know that the manufacturer has the option to, you know, not use the type of AI that causes the customer to sue you expensively? They test the shit before going to production, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/18 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Would you allow a sexbot in your relationship?Does anyone else think it's going to depend on who the other human in the relationship is? Is it a generous billionaire or is it the manager at Burger King? The answer to that question will condition the answer to the OP, most likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/18 06:16 AM |
| 3 | Would you allow a sexbot in your relationship?What's wrong with stereotypes? They've studied stereotypes lately and they have discovered that stereotypical beliefs about groups tend to be accurate, when measured against reality. Google "stereotype accuracy study". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Would you allow a sexbot in your relationship?If you can allow people to see your spouse, why not the doll, given that the latter is likely to be easier on the eye? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Can we discuss SeekingArrangement.com?You forget that guys with Lamborghini money don't want to be the next Aziz Ansari. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Can we discuss SeekingArrangement.com?What percentage of men hate prostitutes? Certainly not me. Hating a dishonest person who is a prostitute while pretending not to be is hatred of dishonesty, not prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 06:54 PM |
| 3 | The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) footWomen had by far the better treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 06:50 PM |
| 1 | The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) footNo they weren't. They carried all the responsibility, legal and otherwise. You're ignorant and sexist. Educate yourself before you want to talk to adults. Hint: if you didn't know that 99% of men were the slaves of the local lord, you're so ignorant you shouldn't continue posting until you have apologized to, and received forgiveness from, every single poster on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Yes, between 85 and 95% do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 03:59 PM |
| 1 | The #MeToo movement: if the shoe were on the other (genders) footSince the hunter/gatherer era of humanity the female sex every human being except the Monarch, priesthood and aristocracy has been subjugated and treated as a second class. I really don’t think anyone can debate this Fixed that for the ignorant sexist poster who thinks a male peasant bleeding out on the battlefield, gazing at his intestines strewn about him, was the subjugator, not the subjugatee. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Who are the non-autistic women (journalists writing clickbait doesn't count) who object to the polite fiction of friendship? I would like evidence that they exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Can we discuss SeekingArrangement.com?Show 100 men to 10 women and ask them to pick their favorite; you'll probably get 10 different answers. What if we show 100 men to 10,000 women and ask them to pick their favorite? My guess is that 5% of those men will account for more than 75% of the favorites. Do you disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Can we discuss SeekingArrangement.com?1 percent of the population controls five trillion dollars a year. For these guys, $200 an hour is an amount so small it's meaningless. Paying $200 an hour to have women at your service 24/7 for a whole year is a mere $1.752m For the top 0.1 of guys (17,500 men, assuming perfect sex equality in the top 0.1%) that's nothing at all. It's a fraction of their annual income, and remember that even the super-rich sleep, so the figure will probably be at least 33% less even for the biggest spenders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Can we discuss SeekingArrangement.com?No, there's nothing further to discuss. I told you, if you want $150 bucks a month you need to do anal and swallow my milk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Sure, many guys do this to get laid every day. But millions of guys get laid other ways. My point stands. Leveraging a pretense of friendship increases the amount of new sexual couplings. Millions of guys who get laid other ways = W Guys who have sex with their "platonic lady friends" = X W + X = Y Y > W | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:23 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Any woman who can't handle the fiction of friendship is autistic or well-advanced on the spectrum. Yes, there are more such women nowadays. If it doesn't work for the autistic woman, she needs to be educated and she needs to adopt a strategy and stick to it. A good one is: don't have straight male friends. The overwhelming majority of straight men who want to be her "friend" is looking to fuck. That's going to be a problem for the woman because she can't read cues properly. Choosing to have stra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Well, I'm broadening it out. One perfect example of enforcing a policy on all people is the "enthusiastic consent" standard. That's not how most women want to have sex. Non-autistic people (not very common on PPD, so spare me the "but I'm not like that" replies, eh) don't want to have to put on stupid exaggerated shows of enthusiasm before their lover can penetrate them. However, for an autistic or otherwise mentally impaired sexually active woman, it's a good rule-of-thumb for the non-impaired … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/18 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Nice trolling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Nope, atheist. But many religions do function as polite fictions, Shinto or Buddhism for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I don't hate them and never have. They are literally blind to the problem, so I don't blame them. I blame policy makers and dishonest ideologues who know that the new stupid policies are insane when applied to healthy, non-autistic people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I think when SJWs say that men should not cut friendship when it becomes clear that it won't lead to sex, what they say is not that men should avoid the fiction of friendship, but that they need to maintain it even after On that, they are wrong. We need to protect autistic women from mistaking a man with only sexual interests from a man with genuine platonic interests. But we need to do this by educating autistic women, not by telling neurotypical men and women to stop their natural, healthy for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?What if we described the polite fiction described by OP as anti-autism? It's not anti-autism, any more than Samba dancing is anti-paraplegic. Paraplegics can't samba dance and autistic people can't play advanced social games as well as neurotypicals. That's fine. But neurotypicals have a right to relate to each other in the way they choose, and if that includes social play that autists cannot handle, that's no reason to interfere with the preferred behavior of the neurotypicals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Every day, thousands of men have consensual sex with women that they are supposedly in a platonic friendship with. This is precisely as natural selection has favored, favors and will favor for most of the next million years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I'm surprised by how much autistic people are hated Do you understand the idea that autistic people shouldn't interfere with the way non-autistic people relate to one another? That's the problem with the new SJW fascism: they impose new codes of behavior on everyone, not just autistic folks, and those who have direct contact with them. That's unacceptable. If two neurotypicals choose to relate to one another in a way that an autist would dislike, that's nobody's business but the two neurotypical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Hahaha, you have a lot to learn about guys! While they continue hanging around there is a slim but real chance to get laid with one of those other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/18 10:03 AM |
| 5 | Real Purple Pill Debate Cannot Exist Until the Mods Respect the Red Pill PositionIf they sound like the Reds of Red Pill, how the hell can there be any meeting of minds? You people just yell provocative shit mostly. Dogmatic blanket statements that are just absurd on their face. Where do you see the possibility of fruitful dialog, where both sides walk away satisfied? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Feminist hatred for "nice guys", a discussion and the reason the "nice guy" is a jerk is that he stops being friends after being rejectedIn that, you deviate from the human norm. But that's okay, you don't need to worry about the whole human race. As long as your relations are good with the people around you, you're fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:07 PM |
| 3 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Can you get your hands on a blue-state junior high biology textbook? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Many of them ended up dating one of them or another sure, but somehow managed to stay friends with the others That's not inconsistent with the males just wanting to have women in their circle to hook up with at fortuitous moments, which is my thesis exactly. So, thanks for the support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?But at the same time, the more obvious it becomes that polite fictions are indeed fictional, the further down the path to anarchy we as individuals are compelled to go. I agree with most of what you say but I feel the part I quote here is too speculative to get behind until I see concrete evidence. There's no trust between me and the credit card company, but our relationship is still mutually beneficial. Your argument that a completely trustless relationship necessarily leads to anarchy seems as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I'll grant you that they're a great deal more common in the West than the rest of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Real Purple Pill Debate Cannot Exist Until the Mods Respect the Red Pill PositionBut the mods do respect your position! Like, not sarcasm and stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Do men like female personalities?Provided nothing important is at stake, it's fine. I like seeing creatures being themselves. But if we're collaborating to get an important task done and she's fucking up my system with girlish distractions, that can create issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Read it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I have to call bull on the assertion that men aren completely incapable of being friends with women without wanting to slhave sex with them As do I, right there in the OP. You should start to read OPs before commenting, it makes you seem so much smarter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?That's nothing to do with polite fictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 06:47 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?I accepted that in the OP. it would be good if you read it, you'll understand the conversation better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Harmful to the current configuration of human existence It's the only configuration we're going to have, barring a post-apocalyptic dystopia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?They're not lies, they're polite fictions. You're not supposed to actually believe a judge is a god, you are supposed to pretend you think he's a god. If you believe that a judge really is a god, you don't understand law at all. Equally, a woman isn't supposed to truly believe the horny orbiter wants platonic friendship, she's just supposed to pretend that there's some possibility of friendship happening, even though all parties know that is untrue. That's how humans worked 10,000 years ago, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?It's possible to just be friends with people of the opposite sex I was very careful to explicitly say that in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Failing to accept polite fictions and stupidly demanding bald truth all the time is harmful to existence. Continued existence becomes slightly less likely every time we get rid of polite fictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 04:44 PM |
| 5 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?Every human society, including those without the use of fire, works according to polite fictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 03:53 PM |
| -4 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?You have much to learn. If you're lucky, you'll understand the error of your ways before too much more of your precious life is wasted on what you imagine ought to be. You can cut out all the misery by accepting that men hanging around women do so for the reasons they do, not for the obvious polite fictions they laughingly claim. You do not understand what ought to be better than natural selection, so be sensible and accept this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 03:01 PM |
| -1 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?You have chosen the path of misery. This makes you a very useful person. You will serve as an example to everyone around you, through your deep and obvious unhappiness, that there's only a few spaces in life for the brutal truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 02:59 PM |
| 5 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?No, you won't destroy the fictions. They will recur and recur regardless of what your ideology demands. They are a deep rooted part of human psychology and nothing you can ever do will get rid of them. You can use tyrannical power, if you have it, to temporarily alter human behavior away from evolution's plan. But tyrants all eventually lose their power and evolution always wins. You will certainly lose this fight. Grow up and accept it, is the only response to people who complain. It exists for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Do people here understand that all forms of human society is based on maintaining polite fictions?The thousands of posts whining about men who follow evolution's plan and sever contact with female "friends" once they discover that sex isn't gonna happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 02:22 PM |
| 0 | Q4men: how do you feel if your wife is not just professionally mediocre, but has had many failures?Yep, a dumb woman who insisted on doing wrong shit made me fall out of love with her, and break up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Feminist hatred for "nice guys", a discussion and the reason the "nice guy" is a jerk is that he stops being friends after being rejectedOf course he's not her friend. Single men spend time with women only for the slim chance of sex and the "we're friends" bullshit is a polite fiction. Like when the Hertz lady smiles at you: you know and she knows that she absolutely is not happy to see you, it's just an empty formula we use because of tradition. If you expected the same kind of relationship from a man that you get from your girlfriends, you are extremely autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:35 AM |
| 2 | How come every opinion piece about Aziz Ansari's sexual misconduct allegations is written by a woman?He was guilty of nothing. Holding hands near a flak jacket is not assault. Unless the victim has credible reason to fear being assaulted, it's not anything of note. She was not touched, so she has no grounds to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I've been with dozens of women, ONS, LTR, the works. I know what I am talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:23 AM |
| 0 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)Edit: comment you downvoting cowards Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:08 AM |
| 0 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)Do you understand that means 9999 in ten thousand men are so sexy to you, you'd rather have sex with them than masturbate? Only one in ten thousand is so unattractive you would turn him down for sex and masturbate instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 11:05 AM |
| 3 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)Sounds like a good way to put a female version of my question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:56 PM |
| 4 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)Hey, don't be shaming the people responding to my survey, or I shall cleave thee in twain with mine axe! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:55 PM |
| 3 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)Zero percent of men are inferior to masturbation? That means you would rather have sex with a 90 year-old man who's in a coma in a burn unit, than masturbate. That's some appetite you have there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:53 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)What's your sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Why do women have such a hard time giving a direct no?Uh huh, like what I said, plus details. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:25 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)What's your age group? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:23 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)What sex are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 07:20 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of the opposite sex are objectively inferior to masturbation, in your view? (Long)In the title. A valid answer is any number between zero and a hundred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?Because semen is shooting out the end of their dick, I guess. I feel it's a strong similarity, and the sensation is identical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:54 PM |
| 6 | Why do women have such a hard time giving a direct no?Men and women exhibit sexual dimorphism. The language centers of male and female brains are configured very differently. A neurologist can look at an extreme close-up of one of the brain's language centers and accurately, reliably tell the sex of the individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?That's what makes it so cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?Congratulations on being born with the genes your parents gave you. Eastuss should definitely get rid of his genes and get yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:17 PM |
| 3 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I love how all my truth bombs get zero rebuttals but tons of downvotes. Very reliable signal that I'm hitting the nail on the head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Should girls be brought up to be sweet, submissive pleasers or independent, assertive achievers?You think girls behave as they do because of their upbringing. Do you also believe lesbians are homosexual because of their upbringing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?Do women understand that what's fuckable before you ejaculate is a very different story once you have nutted. Essentially, men are like women in the instants after ejaculation. We see the world as it is, not how it appears through the lens of sexual stimulation. Before ejaculation, an obese woman seems sorta fuckable. After, we see that woman the same way a completely heterosexual, not even slightly bi-curious woman sees her: unimaginable as a sex partner. Which is kind of disturbing when you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?More power to ya. I'm still right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?Yes indeed. I can't fault anyone who prefers a very handsome A-list movie star to me. Did you expect I was going to get all defensive saying "no, I am definitely more desirable than a guy who is extremely famous for being desirable"? To anyone who has a choice between me or Ryan Gosling I say "take Gosling. What are you, a moron?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?No, it's a completely different feeling. The question is: is it a WORSE feeling? All I can tell you is that more and more often I find myself passing on opportunities with women because sex with them, while entertaining, is definitely going to be inferior as a pastime to a session with my fave ladies. When a lady comes along who's actually worth passing up porn for, I do her. But half of all women are ham planets, and therefore inherently inferior to masturbation, even without porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 02:27 PM |
| 5 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?Sure, but also be aware that porn has qualities you'll never have. Porn will never nag, never cheat, never age, never make excuses. A lot of people think that it's the pussy beggars who are the winners, and the guys with instant access to the world's most beautiful, most sexually skilled women are the losers. I'm no longer convinced they are right. Unless the woman is a genuinely, unusually good woman, the loser is the guy who's chained himself to one dubious option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I didn't say I'm unmarried. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?It's less work for you. If he has the desire to jack it to a fat tall afro-latina on Monday and a petite blonde Swede on Tuesday, it's a lot easier for him to satisfy those whims with porn than if you had to achieve that effect yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:48 AM |
| 0 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?It's kind of like an oxygen addiction, or being addicted to not being weightless. Porn's only purpose is to provide erotic pleasure. People should be allowed to take jackoff breaks at work the way they get smoke breaks. If it's an addiction, it's one of the least harmful addictions there are. And if society was less prudish, we'd be happy to let porn addicts take breaks every couple hours so he can still function. Society is getting rid of male and female bathrooms, so changing to accommodate me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I think the issue here is you got lucky as fuck, and you're one of the rare men with a long-term female partner who makes an effort. Remember, 33% of men in your situation still get divorce raped. You dodged a bullet, but the majority of men aren't in your situation and never will be. Kudos to you, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:34 AM |
| 0 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I don't understand this mindset at all. I would much rather fuck a real live female than my hand. If i could, i would exclusively cum in the holes of a woman. So a man being too busy with porn to fuck doesn't compute. Every man feels like that when he's young and desperate. Advice: have sex with a bunch of ugly prostitutes. Then you'll understand that, over time, the infinite desire to screw any female adult human, regardless of how closely she resembles a milch-cow, actually does decrease with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:28 AM |
| 1 | How come every opinion piece about Aziz Ansari's sexual misconduct allegations is written by a woman?You're not making any sense that I can see. What ABM said is perfectly relevant to Damon's comments, and supportive of them. Can you explain what you believe the strawman in ABM's statement to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 10:00 AM |
| 2 | How come every opinion piece about Aziz Ansari's sexual misconduct allegations is written by a woman?Because a hell of a lot more readers don't give a rat's ass what any man's analysis of the situation is, than there are open-minded readers. Welcome to the written word in the 21st century. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 09:40 AM |
| 2 | Should girls be brought up to be sweet, submissive pleasers or independent, assertive achievers?Why are rejected off-topic articles from Everyday Feminism appearing in PPD as threads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 09:38 AM |
| 4 | Porn addiction: how prevalent?I'll answer this question after I spooge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/18 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.Yeah it's very shallow so far. Then again I often get the idea that everyone on this sub has Asperger's and just don't grok social nuances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.I don’t rank people on a social order Yes you do (unless you have very extreme autism, maybe). All mammals obey a pecking order within their species. Mammals who don't do that quickly die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 09:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.Perhaps they're not consciously aware of when they demote someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.It was a hookup. Maybe he had excellent cocaine, or maybe she was drunk. Maybe she was trying to change a light bulb and she fell off the ladder onto his dick. It's really outside the scope of this hypothetical. Just trust me that people sometimes have sex with people below their usual standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.Thank you for an interesting read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.Are you seriously claiming that the fact that he's the father to her child and a reliable provider isn't enough to fully explain? Are you unaware that some mothers value the welfare of their children above their own individual comfort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Who, SPECIFICALLY, is telling you you're inferior to men, worthless, and good only for sex? When and where, specifically, are these things being said or done?Would you like to bet fifty thousand dollars that the schoolbooks you used as a kid did not contain a lot of feminist propaganda? If not, I strongly suspect that you know, at some level, that feminist dogma has been part of the curriculum of the schooling you received. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:08 PM |
| 5 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.I did it for only one reason: to annoy you. Mission accomplished. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.If the men have comparable careers, no status lost. Do you think experimental data will bear this out? I have my doubts. I wouldn't be surprised to see definite signs of lowered social status in her interactions with the group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.People change their minds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 03:03 PM |
| 0 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.The woman who "settled" for a less attractive man wouldn't lose status in my eyes What about the rest of the group? I know you are a perfectly rational being, I'm talking about your less enlightened sisters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4 women about the relative status of women & how it's affected by a bad match.He's a good provider for his natural child, and she already likes him enough to have a lot of sex with him. She doesn't have a problem with the guy, her friends do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Who, SPECIFICALLY, is telling you you're inferior to men, worthless, and good only for sex? When and where, specifically, are these things being said or done?It is subtle and it happens from multiple sources How do you know it's not all in your head, suggested by all the feminist propaganda you've been exposed to (I assume you went to school at some point since 1980 so it's a guarantee you have been exposed to that propaganda). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Who, SPECIFICALLY, is telling you you're inferior to men, worthless, and good only for sex? When and where, specifically, are these things being said or done?Well, it's true. Why would a young girl set any stock in what a young boy wants? That's your problem right there. The male brain isn't developed until the guy reaches his mid twenties. NOBODY should be looking to young men for validation, not even young men. They're just not capable of reaching a mature judgement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Who, SPECIFICALLY, is telling you you're inferior to men, worthless, and good only for sex? When and where, specifically, are these things being said or done?Yes, those Bible verses exist and you're not likely to hear many preachers choosing to read those verses from the pulpit. Apparently reminding women that Jehovah is a sexist asshole is a very poor choice for funding churches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do women want marriage so badly?Yeah, finally an atlas post that I can strongly agree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Who, SPECIFICALLY, is telling you you're inferior to men, worthless, and good only for sex? When and where, specifically, are these things being said or done?She has already picked up on that being overtly feminine is regarded as inferior, Wow, you seem to really think your daughter is dumb. I am more optimistic about your daughter's intelligence. Here's a rival hypothesis which is superior to yours: Your daughter, like almost all human beings, has a hardwired, innate idea of what is feminine and masculine. As a young child, she's an asexual being. But she sees girly people and boyish people, and at her current stage of development, she personally pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/18 01:52 PM |
| 1 | There is not an abundance of high quality womenHas everybody agreed on a metric for what High quality means? Otherwise this thread will just be babble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you think women have it easy in life?Objectively? Yes, of course. However, humans didn't evolve to believe what is objectively true. They evolved to believe things that promote survival and continuation of the species. Having a deluded, false belief that women have it hard was historically beneficial for the continuation of the species, regardless of the truth of the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers do you realize that women are not the reason why the free market declined?This just shows your lack of knowledge of economic history. The Progressive era involved a little tinkering around the economic margins: creation of a stable paper currency, antitrust laws, et cetera. Notwithstanding all of that, the USA remained a largely anti-interventionist, laissez-faire economy for decades after the close of the Progressive era. Actually significant changes to the economic regime, to the point where you can legitimately say that the developed world was no longer laissez fai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Red Pillers do you realize that women are not the reason why the free market declined?You wrote about some stuff that happened, and the problem is that although the stuff really did happen, it was almost entirely irrelevant to the outcome. You were supposed to talk about the significant role played by women. But the stuff you were talking about was historically insignificant in the actual effect it had on laissez faire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Red Pillers do you realize that women are not the reason why the free market declined?I'm with him in the sense of not liking what you did with the post, but it's true you didn't involve victimization, FWIW. I just think you show a very poor understanding of why laissez-faire died. It was defeated by non-laissez-faire economies. Nazi Germany could plausibly have won the war with better strategic thinking by Hitler: his government's interventionist policies were that productive. The interventionist powers recovered from the Great Depression much quicker than the slow kids who trie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 10:58 PM |
| 0 | Red Pillers do you realize that women are not the reason why the free market declined?I'm with Biscuit here. He's not drooling out yards of drivel from the TRP sidebar, it would be courteous of you to lay off the idealized cherry-picked feminist propaganda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers do you realize that women are not the reason why the free market declined?That's like asking a toddler to do long division for a solid majority of RPers. It's basically the schtick of Tom Cruise's character in Magnolia, worked into a boring, overcomplicated manifesto. Can anybody be surprised if they have nothing but a cartoonish Fox News Sesame St-level economic fairy tales in place of an educated working understanding of the maddening shifts in markets, regularly turned inside out by rapid technological change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Proof radical feminists hate "innocent until proven guilty."Did they ever deny it? | /r/MensRights | 11/01/18 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Are average, below average and nerdy girls the sluttiest of all due to their low self esteem?Yes. Remember, men are totally able to maintain an erection while making love to a literal mud puddle. Are you better looking than a mud puddle? Then you can attract a lover. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Are average, below average and nerdy girls the sluttiest of all due to their low self esteem?3 gets dicks. Apart from circus freaks, every woman under the age of 60 can score a lay with a slim, decent-looking man immediately through Tinder. Seriously. Are you 500 pounds? Doesn't matter, there's a handsome guy in your neighborhood who will make love to you tonight. If you are willing to wait a couple of days, you'll score with truly gorgeous guys. Men are not picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Are average, below average and nerdy girls the sluttiest of all due to their low self esteem?Good point. Focus on one dude at a time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Are average, below average and nerdy girls the sluttiest of all due to their low self esteem?Do you mean they act differently, or that the soyboys who act all feminist really are as woman-like as they portray themselves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/18 12:27 PM |
| 16 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillBeing an upstanding citizen has serious sexual costs. All else being equal, criminality gets you masses more pussy than good citizenship. We sexually train our men to abandon good citizenship and embrace crime. Luckily for society, most men try to remain good citizens, despite the sexual punishment for doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 10:14 AM |
| 6 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillThe point doesn't have to be valid to his life. It just has to apply to someone's life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 10:10 AM |
| 19 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillTranslation: If guys don't subscribe to the exact same sexual morality that I do, let them eat cake Bingo. You're really on fire tonight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 10:09 AM |
| 7 | This thread is EXACTLY why lots of men turn to Red-PillWhat really offends bloopers is not the existence of RP, but the existence of the issues themselves Good insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Women hate it when nice guys become "nice guys" because they realise they can't manipulate them anymore...That's the kind of thing Trump would say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Women hate it when nice guys become "nice guys" because they realise they can't manipulate them anymore...What's your data source for vast majority? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 05:25 PM |
| -1 | Women hate it when nice guys become "nice guys" because they realise they can't manipulate them anymore...How do you know what OP's lived experience is? Isn't he the world's greatest authority on his own experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Why is there no “Red Pill” equivalent for women?Preach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:41 PM |
| 6 | Why is there no “Red Pill” equivalent for women?It may also have something to do with the fact that women are physically dependent on men as an aggregate. Yes, all women (except those few women living alone in the woods off the grid, and those living in all-female communes). Given this dependence upon the men of the species (not any one man in particular), being nice is a prerequisite for survival. Non-nice women were not able to reproduce as successfully. There's no prize for having nice ancestors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:39 PM |
| 4 | Why is there no “Red Pill” equivalent for women?Yep, there's never been a guy who got shot down without turning into Ed Gein (facepalm). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no “Red Pill” equivalent for women?Because showing cleavage works almost every time. It's not going to be an interesting subreddit: _I can't get guys to notice me! _Make sure they can see the good part of your boobs. _I did it and now 50 hot guys want my number, thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do men react better when I'm a bitch?It depends what guys you mean. Are you attractive? Can you dress up as a guy and see if the same stuff happens when they think you're male, or a butch lesbian? If it does, it may indicate that the effect you observe is not based on courtship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Why is casual sex more validating than getting someone to put up with you long term?Because it's the most efficient way to ensure species survival in a Stone Age environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Why is casual sex more validating than getting someone to put up with you long term?Yawn, every male has enough sperm at any given moment to impregnate every woman in a two thousand mile radius. Our erotic psychology evolved to spread the sperm as indiscriminately as possible. You'll notice that far more men have sex with inanimate objects not designed for sex than women You'll also have seen that male dogs are weak at discriminating between a female dog and a human leg. I feel certain that the first person to say "everything is a dildo if you're brave enough" was a dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 01:51 PM |
| 3 | I have no sympathy for men who were ignored by girls in high school/ women in collegeOf course you don't have sympathy for men. Nobody has sympathy for men. Sympathy is for women and children of our species. If you are not either of those, you're nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 01:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "The patriarchy" is sexual selection, and is created entirely by women's preference for high status men.Unless she works at a gym and can get a free membership or is incredibly picky about what she eats Is every successful athlete what you'd call incredibly picky? Eating decently doesn't require an insane amount of forward planning or money. You need to be focused on your weight goals, and together enough to prepare meals in advance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 09:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "The patriarchy" is sexual selection, and is created entirely by women's preference for high status men.Chelsea Clinton is a good example of how much money can compensate for a woman's lack of aesthetic genes. She's a lot better looking than the alternate universe versions of her that grew up in a trailer park, but even in this universe, with all her advantages, she's not worth a second glance unless you know who her parents are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about “million dollar baby syndrome” or women bizarrely attached to dysfunctional familiesDo you mind if we ask your ethnic/religious background? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/17 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about “million dollar baby syndrome” or women bizarrely attached to dysfunctional familiesDon't fuck shit up, because you don't know what's happening and you can overdo it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/17 12:36 AM |
| 2 | [Q4Men] Who else would ideally like to have a harem?It's all contextual: if a guy wins the lottery, pretty soon he'll be in the company of several hot women. If he doesn't win, the idea will barely cross his mind. What percentage of heterosexual guys can obtain a harem without paying a harsh social price, yet choose not to? A harem requires that the women be loyal, or prisoners. In most historical cases, those women were often sex slaves and if they got pregnant the baby was strangled. So no to a literal harem, but of course yes to multiple women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/17 11:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV-Men peaking in their early 30's is irrelevant given that the vast majority of quality women in their dating pool are now married, engaged, or in an LTR.I personally don't think longevity of marriage is a strong indicator of quality. Plenty of dead bedroom marriages last a lifetime. If a guy stays married, is it because he's a doormat chump who's too cowardly to dump a harpie, or is she genuinely worth spending time with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/17 11:33 AM |
| 2 | Chad is not real, and why this means that 4chan has been trolling you [CMV]Most men have several male friends. Most men know a guy who answers the description of Chad. About 5% of guys are like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 06:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV-Men peaking in their early 30's is irrelevant given that the vast majority of quality women in their dating pool are now married, engaged, or in an LTR.17 in many states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 06:25 PM |
| 4 | CMV-Men peaking in their early 30's is irrelevant given that the vast majority of quality women in their dating pool are now married, engaged, or in an LTR.Christ, this "revenge fantasy" shit actually makes me fantasize about taking revenge against lazy unoriginal writing and worse thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 06:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV-Men peaking in their early 30's is irrelevant given that the vast majority of quality women in their dating pool are now married, engaged, or in an LTR.Because LTRs don't break up every day, and one in three marriages don't fall to divorce? Also, guys in their 30s can get college chicks, albeit not the 9s. But if they're happy with just any regular girl with non-saggy naturals, as many of us are, who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 06:22 PM |
| 0 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?Well, if you hope for suicide for others, I would take great comfort in knowing you are experiencing hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?Folks with blackheart in their names are pro-suicide. Film at eleven. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 04:32 PM |
| 0 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?OK, I presumed you were proposing it. Since the subreddit went to shit I haven't been here often enough to know who supports what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 04:31 PM |
| 0 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?Then you all get to share in the sewage splatter that is that decision. I hereby apportion blame to you too: congratulations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?So how is fatalism supposed to lead to positive psychological results, especially in men with limited intellectual abilities? People become disturbed when it becomes obvious that a life of being incel is before them. Suicidal ideation is common on incel boards and indeed here. Is your idea of fatalism likely to reduce or even hold steady the risk of suicide for those incels who are exposed to it. I apologize for breaking subreddit rules by talking of incels as human beings deserving of a listeni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 09:24 AM |
| 0 | Is black pill just a type of red pill for incels?You guys belatedly realize that you can't separate incels from the subject matter. Well done. Oh, IF FUCKING ONLY someone had pointed this out to you multiple times before you went down this ludicrous road of banning the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/17 09:19 AM |
| 0 | Struggling men should look into horse girlsThose women will have unusually strong thigh muscles and I bet they don't need to do kegels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]Trafficking cannot continue on a large scale without the connivance or wilful blindness of the government. connivance or wilful blindness on this matter would be an act of shocking evil, and to accuse the Thai government of such is to accuse its people, as Thailand has been a democracy for most of the last several decades and thus its people are responsible for most public policy. The recent military government is irrelevant in this regard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]I dated a Thai woman who was a former prostitute so... yeah, sorta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]Some people are unable to keep a secret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]My point stands. Unless you have reason to think he was going to a Burmese brothel in Thailand it's virtually certain that the prostitute he was with was a consenting Thai adult. To think that the Thai people would willingly turn a blind eye to widespread slavery is racist. The fact that they prosecute it vigorously when it does occur shows that. To allow widespread slavery is certainly evil, and Thais are not evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]I know some Thai ladies who were prostitutes back in Thailand. According to them, trafficking is not a thing over there, in their experience. Turns out the lure of money is 100% sufficient for brothels to obtain personnel. Coercion and violence is simply unnecessary. It's actually both racist and sexist for you to assume that Thai people are so evil they would tolerate widespread slavery on their soil. Maybe take the feminazi propaganda with a pinch of salt, when it says such racist garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Would you consider it a deal breaker if your bf/gf/wife/husband etc. went to a prostitute prior to meeting you? [AskTPB]Wow, you're literally disgusted by the fact that a guy had consensual sex before meeting you? OK. (Backing away slowly) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Why are men more emotionally scarred by a woman physically cheating VS. emotional infidelity?That assumes that the society in question had any concept of strictly monogamous marriage with serious consequences for infidelity. That is not universal among various hunter-gatherer groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you think TRP has the wrong approach for "beta" men?I'm pretty certain a very large proportion of betas will be happy with the large quantity of lovers and won't be too unhappy about the lack of a ball and chain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 10:00 AM |
| 1 | TRP Prescription Seems to WorkIf you don't want your spouse to try to trade up it's imperative to remain her best option That set of incentives doesn't motivate me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 09:55 AM |
| 2 | TRP Prescription Seems to WorkJust that losing weight and having your shit together was attractive to women? Whoosh. You're missing the point. There are thousands of different motivational systems out there which ATTEMPT to get people to lose weight and get their shit together. Most of these systems fail hugely, only helping a tiny fraction of their users. OPs point is that the TRP motivational system (which may be built on lies) actually works. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's definitely what is being claimed. Ult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 09:53 AM |
| 2 | Why are men more emotionally scarred by a woman physically cheating VS. emotional infidelity?If a woman betrays you emotionally but stays sexually faithful your genes survive into the next generation. But if she stays true emotionally while banging another guy, the other guy's genes will be perpetuated. This is an excellent example of evolutionary psychology in action. Men whose primary worry is emotional infidelity, and who are not concerned with physical infidelity, will reproduce less successfully than men who prefer physical fidelity to emotional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Even if there were no assaults, all those secret settlements for harassment are still a huge deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:27 PM |
| 0 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Surprisingly sane answer from a feminist. Well done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?I just puked a little. Britain is a weird place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?It's weird there aren't more replies like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Would you clean the house for that friend? You know you're entitled to 30 minutes of his best cunnilingus for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:21 PM |
| 5 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Yeesh, check out Jennifer Lopez over here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?I bet you're scared to ask him if he'd bone you if you let him! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:18 PM |
| -2 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Because most of the allegations revolve around pestering, not actual assault. He pestered ten women for each one he assaulted, it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Sexually assault, no. I do think that if it was socially acceptable to request sex directly to a person's face, it would happen to most women several times per day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 11:23 AM |
| 5 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?Lena Dunham. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 11:21 AM |
| 2 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?It's not a bad view. It's just the only view that accords with the available evidence. To have a different view is to be blind to the obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 11:20 AM |
| 8 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?But every woman has a pussy. Yes, there's a part of the man which merely wants to inseminate basically any fertile woman, but there's also a part that likes her for her, otherwise he'd be orbiting some other woman who's more pleasing to him. Some part friendship, another part chasing a hint of a chance of pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?It would only be disturbing if the woman was so completely out of touch with human nature that she was genuinely surprised that most guys have to exercise extreme self-control, more extreme than any self-control most women have ever exerted, to not be as much of a pest as Harvey Weinstein. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4WomenWithMaleFriends: Is it not mildly disturbing to you how nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single?A lot of people think it's illegitimate friendship if the man would prefer a fuckbuddy dynamic. It's an individual preference thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/17 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Well, I think the fact that blacklisting being legal negates the due process protection that exists. Unless the accused is insanely wealthy, being blacklisted is basically as bad as going to jail for 5 years. I saw that you agreed with me on several points, but the blacklisting issue is crucial and any system that allows blacklisting does not provide anything that can be called due process to the accused. I'm not trying to change your mind, but there are lurkers who are still on the fence, so I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/17 09:26 AM |
| 2 | If casual sex/one night stands are apparently mostly orgasm-less pump and dump experiences for women then why are they much more promiscuous than men?Women with mutations that make them really asexual will probably not reproduce as well as those who do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women, If you had to choose one: would you rather have your man be sexist or autistic?I don't think any of the women here are actually artsy they're confusing petit bourgeoise life with art scene Aw hell yeah. Unfortunately, three out of four talented artists are feminazi morons. It's like they traded half their brain for the gift of creativity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women, If you had to choose one: would you rather have your man be sexist or autistic?I'm glad I don't know your social circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 05:56 PM |
| 8 | If casual sex/one night stands are apparently mostly orgasm-less pump and dump experiences for women then why are they much more promiscuous than men?Evolution will favor women who fuck impulsively over those who are better at restraining their sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Women can’t go backwards in lifestyle.It's also the law that a divorced woman is entitled to as much of her ex's money as will allow her to maintain pre-divorce spending levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?I'm gonna have to point out that legal due process is alive and well, and hasn't come into play in these cases because not one of the guys has been charged That's an invalid point. The fact they weren't charged is utterly irrelevant. Indeed, the fact that they weren't charged makes it WORSE, not better. They were blacklisted, denied a livelihood for nothing but unsupported accusations. That's the same thing as vigilantism. Do you understand why vigilantism is also wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/17 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?It's a concept that is meaningless unless people feel bound by it. Now that you have stripped men of their right to due process, why should those men respect anyone else's rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?The whole point is that the prior consensus has been dismantled by Feminism. The core part of the consensus that is democracy requires due process before punishment. There's a reason that is in the Constitution. Now that you have removed that element, the entire consensus is gone. There's no right and wrong, people just fight for their own interests. Not a wise move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Well they certainly don't exist in any objective, mind-independent way. Rights are a fiction which we pretend to believe in to make our lives simpler. But in the final analysis they depend upon either men with guns, or are part of a consensus. The old consensus of the right to "due process before punishment" has been consigned to history. If that right can be abandoned wholesale, why does the right to bodily autonomy get to survive? Either you honor all the rights, or we have the purge: Which wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?That assumes that such an elevation isn't precisely the game plan for at least 31 Dem Senators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 05:59 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Dems are just shaking their heads going "don't you get it? She's female and she accused him. How is that not the end of the story? The way it works is: woman accuses, accused is immediately removed from the source of his livelihood forever without an investigation. What part of that don't you understand?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Rights are entitlements. philosophers and leaders all over the world, throughout time, have agreed on as much I'm dubious about whether Nietzsche would have agreed. And ask a communist philosopher what rights an Enemy of the People has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Those 1 million people care. The other 299 million people... we need more evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?They lost their jobs, a sanction which correlates extremely well with suicide. Out of every million men who is unjustly expelled from his work, tens of thousands of suicides will result. Also, the Senator's constituents are injured by losing their chosen voice in the nation's most powerful chamber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 11:13 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Except the issue at stake here is the entire justice system and the core right from which all other rights flow: the right to continue your life unimpeded until you can be proven to have committed a crime, beyond reasonable doubt. If you remove that right, all the other rights unravel and the true "ruler" is whoever wishes to make a false accusation. How can a judge sentence a woman for a crime? All that woman needs to do is accuse the judge, and he then must be fired. If you say, "Oh, well we w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 09:45 AM |
| 0 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?The issue here is that feminazis are forcing a change which requires the total removal of due process from sexual assault accusations. We are straight back to Salem. The composition of the US Senate has been altered on the basis of two accusers who both are contradicted by photographic evidence, and the expulsion of the Senator was done before the existing Investigation system was able to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Depends on the specifics of the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 09:22 AM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Why don't you consider what the world would be like if we didn't ensure the right to bodily autonomy. Utter chaos As feminists like to point out, marital rape only became a crime quite recently. Until then, married women had no right to bodily autonomy. I don't recall this leading to utter chaos anywhere in the history books. Indeed nothing much changed on a macro scale when they changed the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?So am I. You should know that of all the people I ever met who make proud statements about their empathy, 100% have been quite autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?You forget the feminist factoid that stranger rapes are rare, ergo the vic knows the perps full name in most cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Any time I've ever been hit or mugged, that's precisely what happens. That's a violation of bodily autonomy. Yet I still believe in due process for people accused of assault or robbery. Which seems to make me morally superior to every whining snowflake who hates that society demands evidence before punishment, and wishes for punishments to fall on the accused on the basis of mere finger pointing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?I think the concept of #metoo contradicts the western concept of justice and democracy. Anyone who isn't repelled by #metoo and its evil disregard for evidence should have their right to vote rescinded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?How much irrational virtue can you signal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 04:16 PM |
| -1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?We had a major backlog of untested rape kits and local officials were like "meh" who cares those guys are in jail for other things so we do not need to clear the backlog If a guy is serving 99 years for other crimes, can you explain why it's so urgent to test him? No matter what happens, he'll die in prison, having been raped hundreds of times. It's totally OK to skip that rape kit. If a perp is already in the slam for the whole of his natural life, a rape victim has no reason to demand that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 04:15 PM |
| -1 | Q4BP: Why should we care this much about sexual assault?Is that a fact? Like a law of physics? Or is it nothing more than a fuzzy, general, unstated and nebulous notion that most people have never thought deeply about, and are simply following the rest of the herd without any other motive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 04:03 PM |
| 3 | Why women fear a backlash over #MeTooThe fact that they are demanding and getting senators fired without waiting for an investigation suggests that the backlash won't be small. It's a survival issue. I'm actually glad the feminazis have overreached here, kinda like the original Nazis going all in with Stalingrad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 04:00 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaAnother funny part is the claim that ethics is a subject dear to the heart of GG, when discussion of ethics is not exactly the most prominent thing when one looks at discussions within GG. Actually, it very much is a regular topic hitting the top of the page on KotakuinAction on very regular occasions. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.If the data supports that, I'd accept that conclusion | /r/MensRights | 11/12/17 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.People think the concept of privilege is new. It isn't. It's simply the old concept of blessings. Good point. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 10:26 PM |
| 5 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.Well, if that hunch is true, let's prove it. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:45 PM |
| 4 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.Male feminists are stupid and emotionally driven. They wouldn't fill out your questionnaires. They would mock you for not believing the same way they do. You don't have to tell them that you are an antifeminist. You can just be chatting about personality. Lots of people are happy to answer questions about their personality. Some of them are male fems. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:44 PM |
| 6 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.If you disagree with literally all the published mainstream feminist authors, how useful is the word "feminist" to describe you? We'll have to qualify it with "dissident feminist" or "non-mainstream feminist". If I was publishing a scientific paper, I would weigh down the definition with fifty clauses of extreme specificity, but as this is a conversational piece, I speak more loosely so such misunderstandings can occur. I've told you what I had in mind: accept it or don't. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:43 PM |
| 4 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.Again, I'm talking about the overwhelming majority of self-described feminists. Name ONE published feminist mainstream academic author (you can't say Hoff Sommers or Paglia because they're not mainstream feminists) who doesn't dismiss the concerns of MRAs or distort their views? You can't. No such feminist exists, out of the many tens of thousands of feminist academics who publish academic texts annually. Until that is no longer true, you can't credibly debate the point that the vast majority of… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:16 PM |
| 5 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.That's not really the scientific attitude that's required for this kind of project. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:10 PM |
| 6 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.I'm talking about the overwhelming majority of MFs who refuse to see MRAs as reasonable people with a different point of view. Obviously the rare exceptions like yourself are exceptions. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.Yet I know a fair number who are happily married and whom women find very attractive. They already have female attention without feminism. So the need for female attention does not explain their behavior. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:04 PM |
| 2 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.No, a purity test is when you interrogate a guy and if his views aren't correct, you blacklist him. That's nothing at all like my OP. I said, we should find things out about what motivates our opponents, because only a loser wouldn't do that. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:02 PM |
| 6 | Suggestion: we need to understand what makes a male feminist. We should evaluate such men in our circles.How to prevent people from being doormats. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 05:01 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaHas anyone, to your knowledge tried to include a link to the Wilhelm article? I imagine it already has been attempted. And has already been reverted by the feminazis. I would be amazed if it is in a feminism-related article on Wikipedia, except for the brief period it lasts before being noticed (they monitor all changes to gender-related articles closely) and permanently removed. Usually for sourcing reasons. And if it's from RS, usually removed under False balance rule. Because the RS piece in … | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 02:25 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaLet's stop Upu now! (Yeah, I know what you meant. I disagree, I think self-criticism is part of our work.) | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 02:18 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaYou seem to have spent too much time steeped in Waki. That may be true, but you can't change what's done. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 02:17 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaThere are plenty of non-feminist news organisations who have written about Gamergate. Forbes and the WSJ for example are for people interested in business not feminism, and they have both covered it as I imagine have several major right-wing, traditionalist, quality news sites. No, not news sites that meet Wikipedia's standards. Remember, all traditional media depends on advertising, and Gamergate was essentially an advertising scandal. This means that every journalist writing about GG is writin… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 12:54 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaUltimately, if your main goal is to get pro-MRM material into Wikipedia, being on Wikipedia paradoxically isn't the best place to be. Wikipedia reflects what is out there in what are considered high-quality, reliable sources that are not self-published and are fact-checked and have an editorial team and process Those are the bare requirements to get into Wikipedia. The MRM lacks sources which meet those criteria. All our stuff is on blogs and Youtube so is banned from Wikipedia. If we want it in… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 12:49 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaCan you make the main argument in your opinion against creating a reliable source, please? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 12:42 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaThe Heather Wilhelm article is an opinion piece and will be eviscerated by the feminazi mods. For reliable sources, they really should be straight reportage where the writer states facts rather than spouts her own personal impressions. It won't survive a challenge, at least not usually. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 12:41 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in Wikipedia(OK, there are many requirements)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources]. None of them impossible, but requiring effort. If anyone wants a simple, easy, no-effort plan, stop reading now. These requirements will need WORK to satisfy. If we have 50 volunteers, it will be doable. If we have 500 volunteers, it will need a dedicated central director to be effective. First rule: what is published in a Reliable source is secondary material. Example: the official transcrip… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/17 12:36 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaI argue for no procrastination. I want your project to continue, with the addition of another complementary project. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 08:40 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaHow often is the Woozle effect referred to in Wikipedia rules? Can you make the main argument against creating a reliable source, please? | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Hillary Clinton Supporters Are Apparently Plotting To Falsely Accuse Bernie Sanders Of Sexual AssaultAll he needs are two unconfirmed claims. There must be tens of thousands of photos with Bernie's hand near a woman's buttock or breast. She can claim the photo was taken just before or just after a grope. On the same basis as Franken, Bernie's gone. He stays and he's a hypocrite accused groper, he goes and he's irrelevant. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 07:33 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaThey won't go by that. If there are 5,000 well-cited academics who support a thing and cite it frequently, that could outweigh the opinion of the originator of the idea. Imagine if, in his later years, Einstein had denounced spacetime and reverted to belief in Newtonianism. Would that have led to a universal abandonment of relativity, despite its agreement with experiment? It's a nice nugget, but without backup, it's just a nugget. It's not a meaningful challenge or counterpoint to a misguided g… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 07:07 PM |
| 2 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaAreo magazine has not yet been accepted as a reliable source. I doubt Spectator is considered RS by consensus, if at all. If it is RS, it will be in the teeth of a large feminist minority report. I expect that pretty soon, one of twenty active feminazi accounts which I can tell you about, will very likely petition to have Areo declared unreliable. And he will immediately be supported by a chorus of editors with a massive number of successful deletions of opposition accounts and edits to their cr… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 06:03 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaYet the word is truly ubiquitous. You'll see posters proclaiming intersectionality in feminist "spaces" in literally every city in Europe, and every large city in North America. Many millions of people are behind it, regardless of whether it makes sense, oe even if it turns out to be an ill-formed proposition and therefore meaningless. That's just a point I felt needs to be taken into account. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 05:59 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaDon't be shy about pointing them out. What are the major sources, officially classed as reliable by Wikipedia, which explicitly disagree with the tenets of Intersectional Feminism, and may be quoted in Wikipedia without falling foul of the false balance rule? I have never found such a source, so you'll have to forgive me if I am a little skeptical initially. I still think the MRM would be better served by creating a solid reliable source that meets all the criteria, and is brim-full of quotable … | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 03:47 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaHave you taken the time to see the holocaust of anti-male bias that are the pages on Sexism, Gamergate and Antifeminism? If you're not conversant with the problems there, I suggest you familiarise yourself with it now and if you have any respect for accuracy and intellectual honesty, I believe you'll recognize there is a major issue happening that merits a change of viewpoint on your end. The problems with feminist bias revolve around a hard core of twenty accounts, which brigade onto an article… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/17 03:44 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaWhat do you think about creating a reliable source that is pro-mrm? If it meets the criteria for reliability, it can get in. It's not a cakewalk, but it can be done. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 08:52 PM |
| 2 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaWhat would you suggest to get around the fact that we have no reliable sources to even begin to try to breach the walls? I'm not being snide, I really do want to hear new ideas. The only plan I can think of is to create such a source by fulfilling all criteria. But that is required to be a team effort, it can't be one person. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 08:50 PM |
| 6 | PSA: Look out for misandrist/radfem bias in WikipediaWhat the hell? I was told that discussion of wikipedia and how it's edited are not permitted as they are considered to be violating the "brigading" rule by inciting people to make changes to wikipedia. I disputed this, but I did hear it from numerous unofficial sources who banned threads for that exact reason. Looks like I done been lied to by somebody! More importantly: Wikipedia gives undisputed primacy to whatever the academic consensus is. This is absolute. If you try to post a non-consensus… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 08:38 PM |
| 4 | What do you think about how hunters-gatherers societies were mostly gender egalitarian?Except many of these farmers consider it adultery if a man's widow has sex with someone else. And that rule does not apply to widowed men: they can fuck whoever they like. That has somehing to do with egalitarianism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 08:00 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about how hunters-gatherers societies were mostly gender egalitarian?Nevertheless it is clearly described in most of the anthro literature that in the overwhelming majority of hunter gatherer tribes, ordinary women had a real role to play in the decision-making process. I forget which tribe, but one of the Native tribes in New England had an annual gathering of women who had the power to veto the chief's proposals. That's typical of the literature about similar tribes in Indonesia, Africa and the Amazon. It wasn't modern democracy, but compared to the women of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about how hunters-gatherers societies were mostly gender egalitarian?That's stupid. There's only one reason why men are in charge in such cultures: military survival. If you have hoardable wealth in the form of grain, you have a HUGE security nightmare. You have to protect that hoard of grain, because it will be a holocaust for the tribe if anything happens to it. All through history, there were people like the vikings and the precursors to the Mongols who didn't farm much themselves, but merely lived by raiding farming communities, taking their grain and women. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 07:34 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about how hunters-gatherers societies were mostly gender egalitarian?That doesn't explain why primitive farming cultures are extremely sexist, always. In a primitive farming cultures you could just as easily say "you don't worry about vaginas over here and dicks over here, you do what you can to help the tribe survive" But that isn't the reality. In literally all farming cultures (except for maybe a few hippie communes, supported by trust funds) there are strict divisions between men and women. The more technologically primitive the farming method, the more sexis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 07:31 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about how hunters-gatherers societies were mostly gender egalitarian?Yes, I've been saying this for centuries, it feels like. Patriarchy (meaning a non-egalitarian political system) really is artificial, a response to the needs of a farming lifestyle and all the military challenges that come when a society moves away from hunter-gathering and starts farming. It's impossible to run a farming civilization on an egalitarian basis: it will fall to pieces very quickly and immediately be conquered and enslaved by non-egalitarian rivals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/17 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do women like unavailable men?In most mammal species, the Alpha is unavailable most of the time, from the point of view of the average female. So an unavailable man subconsciously seems like an alpha, to the primitive part of the brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 09:02 PM |
| 0 | How Feminists Harm Women & GirlsI don't care. Do I need to block your ass? | /r/MensRights | 05/12/17 02:10 PM |
| 0 | How Feminists Harm Women & GirlsHow charming! I think I'll just agree to disagree, pal. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/17 01:17 PM |
| 0 | How Feminists Harm Women & GirlsI think that once you have established that group X is your enemy, it's legitimate to publicize the fact that group X is also harmful to group XX, which they claim to help. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/17 06:14 PM |
| 0 | How Feminists Harm Women & GirlsWhat group, beginning with the letter F, is the ONLY organized opposition to men's rights? | /r/MensRights | 04/12/17 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Well I'm sure that is true, at least for some. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 09:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.but you (apparently) misunderstood me No, I understood your original point when you made it, but disagree that there is any meaningful distinction where you see a marked difference. The acts are only ostensibly the same, in reality they are different in law. Like how abandoning Islam is normal in the USA, but will get you executed in Saudi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I don't read it that way. I see different jurisdictions that define rape differently. Depending on where you are, ostensibly similar acts might be legal or illegal. The states where that defense doesn't exist impose a strict liability on men to ascertain the person's age. Whenever you're having sex, you know whether you've reliably determined the age of the person you're with or not. Anyone who's having sex with an underage person knows that they don't know the age of the person. Knowing that yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I didn't say many children have it, per capita. But the USA has a very large population, so even a rare phenomenon will affect a large number of Americans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 09:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.there are even some states who recognize this and include in their statutes an affirmative defense that the accused honestly and reasonably believed the person consented Yes precisely, if the accused honestly and reasonably believed the person consented, the accused is deemed not to have raped, in law. So your example therefore totally fails to support the claim "You can rape and be raped without realizing". That was your error. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 09:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.It's ill-defined, so most likely people have wildly varying interpretations of what it means. I don't care what Hindus think Vishnu is like. My only concern is "does Vishnu exist?". The answer to that question is no, so I don't need to investigate further. If I cared to know, I might investigate specifically what Vishnu means to Hindus, but I know the important thing about Vishnu: he isn't real, so I don't need to sweat the details. Likewise, I have concluded that whatever "rape culture" might b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 09:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Well, any sexual thoughts that an underage person has is by definition thoughts of being molested, as all sex that a child has is molestation. So all of the sex dreams I had when I was 13 were in fact molestation dreams. Did you have no sexual fantasies before you turned legal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 09:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Many, many of whom, the supposed victim recanted and admitted it was all one of the fantasies that young people are known to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 01:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.If you read my reply directly below you'll see the truth is the opposite of what you say. My mind changing means I am learning something. The problem is it only happens when the thing I learn isn't false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 11:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I bet it's never happened on the summit of Everest or the International Space Station. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 11:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Just-world fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 11:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.How many embezzlers or GTA convicts have been castrated in prison by their fellow inmates? Now compare that figure for inmates convicted of rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 11:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Anyway, have you thought about buying a gun? That helps to make my point! Whenever an unarmed person is badly assaulted, people immediately start writing letters and tweets about how the assault would never have happened if the victim owned a gun. Now, these people know that gun owners get killed all the time, and a gun won't deter a crime unless it's in the victim's hand, is loaded and racked, and she can get a shot at her adversary. (I'm not accusing you of this) That kind of thinking is the j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Well MY whole point is that "rape culture" is an incredibly stupid explanation invented by feminists to explain both the act of rape and some of society's unthinking, instinctive reactions to any profoundly negative event such as a violent crime with a catastrophic aftermath for the victim. The rape culture hypothesis is simply a bad explanation for a set of observed phenomena. Better explanations exist, and accordingly there is no defense for accepting the rape culture framework as true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.When I was bullied in school, my teachers and relatives tried to blame me for it. It did not result in me proclaiming that we live in the bullying culture. Yup, it's a well-known phenomenon called the just-world belief. If a guy gets hit by a car, it can't just be dumb bad luck, he must have bad karma. It's a natural psychological defense mechanism, which every human being who isn't profoundly autistic has within him or her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Even women who had been hiding Jews in their houses got raped, and the younger girls who were raped weren't even born when Hitler got elected, so I don't think you can say it was well-deserved, even if some proportion of the victims were regime supporters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:33 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Where have I initiated incivility with anyone? See my interaction with Plokolok on this very thread as an example of two people exchanging views in a positive, civil manner. We came to something like a consensus, which is always my goal. If you come at me dishonestly or rudely, I will be stern. But be pleasant and I am sweet as pumpkin pie. Again, I am always open to having my view changed: in fact I view it as an obligation. If you present the evidence that makes my view untenable, I have to ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I already explained that ingroup-outgroup dynamics is sufficient to explain everything that happened in Stanford, and I don't see where you rebutted that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 10:07 AM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Who ever told you that being alive on earth means you never get assaulted? That bastard lied to you. Assaults happen to beings on earth. You are a being on earth, so there's a chance something bad will happen. Millions of people die every day, so I can't get upset about shit that happens to people I don't know, or else I'd be a gibbering wreck. This is true for you too. You may imagine your experience gives you infinite empathy and you could listen to thousands of victim tales and never feel a r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 03:42 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.And your reply to my reply was obviously composed without having read my reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 03:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Outside Alabama, who isn't against Roy Moore? Barely anyone except the most unpopular President ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 03:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Rape is a body part penetrating a body opening. A body part being grabbed without any kind of penetration is not rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 03:30 AM |
| 4 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.All that shit is utterly clandestine and once it becomes public, the perp is toast. Zero tolerance. Some perps are so rich they can temporarily buy silence but society crucifies them if they are even accused, let alone convicted. Look at Spacey. He basically said "I was shitfaced all the time back then, so I don't know if I didn't do that during one of my blackouts." Society said "that's all the proof we need, an actor made an accusation against him, and that's the same thing as absolute proof".… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 02:42 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.None of those actions from a make-believe situation which all participants knew to be make-believe may be generalized to a real situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 02:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Sorry, I should have been more precise: women don't worry about rape significantly more than other people worry about other forms of violent crime. Which is to say, a nonzero amount, but not a huge one, EXCEPT among those women in the minority who have been exposed to extreme amounts of feminist dogma or, less commonly, among women unfortunate enough to have had an encounter with one of those more predatory males which is utterly inevitable in a species which is the goddamn apex predator of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Did I say you were bluepilled? You gotta admit: PurpleBarry sure does sound like a pet name for a dick, but sorry for misgendering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 10:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.It's a stupid propaganda slogan with no truth to it, like "Jewish parasite" It's a concept that exists to delude people about the reality of the universe: no culture does anything but abhor rape, and Jews are not a secret cabal out to undermine society. It's just a lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 09:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I see plenty of women in light summer clothes walking by my house at night, and the same seems to happen in every other town, in summer time. And rapes between strangers, that is a chance encounter with a rapist who takes immediate opportunity of a lone woman without planning, are still a stunningly rare event for a species so closely related to chimps. I mean, if we are measured against imaginary perfect beings, obviously all men and all women are terrible, awful things, unforgivably flawed alo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Oh, he questions me! I must leap to self-defense forthwith! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 09:29 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.See the Stanford Prison experiment for example. Oh yes, a bunch of students playing roles got a little too into it... But all involved knew it was an experiment. All of them knew that legally, Stanford could do nothing to stop them from leaving. Whatever sadistic stuff the guards did, they knew that it was just fucking around: this wasn't a prisoner, this was an actor, in the final analysis. The actor can quit if he doesn't wish to continue. The Stanford Prison thing told us something we already… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 09:28 PM |
| 4 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Actually, the idea that most rapists get away with it is still feminist propaganda. It's a prejudice they hold, that a mere allegation of rape is sufficient to conclude a rape occurred. Once you drop the prejudice and examine the evidence, you find that there is precisely as much evidence to prove that many rapists get away with it as there is evidence that all the men in jail for rape are actually innocent. Which is to say, none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.You still haven't spotted your error. Please don't reply to me until you spot it. This will be my response to everything you say until 24 hours have passed since I committed to explaining your mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:21 PM |
| 0 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.You still haven't spotted your error. Please don't reply to me until you spot it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.They sometimes do, but in reality, nothing bar murder is as important to cops as catching a rapist. Cops don't ask many questions about non-rape, non-murder crimes because those crimes are, to them, much much much much less important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.No, this is feminist propaganda. In real life, cops are terrified at the thought of their female relatives living in the same town as a loose rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.No it’s not, there are even some states who recognize this and include in their statutes an affirmative defense that the accused honestly and reasonably believed the person consented (see California for example). In states that don’t have this, yes it could absolutely happen. Your answer demonstrates that you don't know that you are talking about. Can you see the very big error you made? I'll give you a day to figure it out, then I'll explain if you still can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.because cops care a lot more about catching rapists than muggers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I gave you a hypothetical in which you passed out in an alley and got your wallet stolen. That, I contend, is at least a little careless. How could a grown-ass adult miss that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 07:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.That doesn't apply to politically motivated slogans like "rape culture". Political slogans are not living, they are tools. The kinds of phrases that are "alive" are the ones which develop organically, outside universities. In real life. "Rape culture" is no such phrase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 06:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.You can rape and be raped without realizing I'm sorry, but that kind of idea is 100% as silly as creationism, but no creationist would ever get to be a mod of PPD. A large proportion of PPD's readers who reject those kind of arguments, but to feminists, this kind of silliness isn't just an idea: they really think it's reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 06:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.you must be either stupid or dishonest to ask me that question. Which is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 06:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.When I was sexually assaulted walking home from a bus stop at 7:30 pm, my treatment by the police and the reaction of my associates was very different. What was I wearing? Whatever about your associates, it's 100% legit for a cop to ask you what you were wearing. When there's a crime, and as a cop you want to maximise your chances of finding a witness to the crime, then you have to know that information. Imagine yourself as a cop investigating a rape. You meet a potential witness. You ask him to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 06:25 PM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.With extreme conditioning and an incredibly insane situation, some men are probably capable of evil that they would never be capable of in real life. Remember, however, these men are all Eastern European cops. All men who chose to be cops in a part of the world where cops are cruel, violent men, even in peacetime. You may not be aware of this, but Eastern Europeans have an attitude to law and order that makes Texas look like a hippie commune. Anyone who voluntarily applied to be a policeman in P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 06:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.If you had passed out in an alley, and you woke up to find your wallet stolen, do you think the reactions of people would be the same? I think there would be criticism of the place you chose to sleep. I think you would be considered as having made it significantly more likely that you and your wallet would be parted. Careless acts get criticised. That's not sexism, that's society trying to correct the failures of the careless person's parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic."Legal" and "accepted by society" are two different things. Bestiality was legal in many states in the 70s too. It was never accepted anywhere in America by any community. There has never been a community anywhere in the USA where 95% of people weren't totally morally opposed to bestiality. One reason marital rape was not criminalized is that it almost certainly just didn't happen more then than it does now. A man who raped his wife may not have feared the police, but he certainly feared his wif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Sure, so long as we are all on the same page that "rape culture" exists only in the imagination, like "unicorn tears" and "magic spells". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:13 PM |
| 6 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.By rock-solid undeniable evidence, yes. Not by ridiculous pseudo-arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:11 PM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.there is some instances in American culture where feminists in the 70s rape is trivialized, accepted and prevalen Except that was never true anywhere in America at any time in the 70s, before or after. At no point in the USA did any community regard the crime of rape as trivial, acceptable, and accordingly, it was never prevalent, and the number of rapists in the male population never came close to 10%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Exactly. Such an aggressively silly point. It's like something out of an SNL sketch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?I know a great deal of spherical wives for whom that does not appear to be true. Such wives are an absolute majority of all wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Is there a reason it can't be a discussion? The non-existence of rape culture is not a view, it's simply the fact of the matter. What's interesting is that people keep claiming the existence of a thing that self-evidently does not exist. There is no space for a reasonable person to say "but a rape culture really does exist somewhere". Anyone who makes that claim is always and everywhere mistaken. As you are a feminist, I think you should recuse yourself from this thread as it directly challenges… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 03:31 PM |
| 5 | Feminist Julie Birchill wrote of suicide that it's "nice for young men finally to find something that they’re better at than girls". Her own son later took his own lifeHoly fuck, read the details: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11749390/Author-Julie-Burchill-on-death-of-son-I-would-give-a-decade-off-my-life-to-have-him-back.html Jack had spent time in rehabilitation and was supported by his mother through university and music school, although he dropped out of both. “After a lifetime of acting as my boy’s life coach, ATM, and personal maid, I had had enough,” Burchill said. Burchill abandoned her son when he was five and remained out of his life… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/17 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Feminist Julie Birchill wrote of suicide that it's "nice for young men finally to find something that they’re better at than girls". Her own son later took his own lifeInteresting thing about Burchill: she was basically the only feminist who didn't believe that men and women were equally interested in having sex in real life. At the time, the feminist party line was "women and men want sex equally, and the reason women mostly say no when offered sex and men mostly say yes is something something patriarchy". | /r/MensRights | 02/12/17 01:54 PM |
| 4 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Is there a popular TV show that you dislike and consider to be dumb as fuck? Do you wander over to the subreddit devoted to that TV show and constantly post threads about how dumb and awful that TV show is? If the answer is "no", my retort is: "if you're able to restrain yourself from constantly posting about a dumb (in your opinion) TV show, why couldn't you do the same thing here?" Almost by definition, "dumb" is pretty much the same thing as "not worth talking about" unless there are really h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Wtf are they doing all day? Are we talking full NEET status? That many people neeting would wreck society, but not because women can't or won't do infrastructure maintenance. Assume they build monasteries for themselves and just spend the rest of their lives pursuing intellectual problems, math and so on, they'll also build and play musical instruments etc. It's not really important, if you need to answer the question you can assume the above or, if you just want it simplified, let them all tele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Have you any idea how much simpler life was in the 40s? No internet, no cable, no air conditioning for the 99%. Cars were so simple an owner could maintain it adequately himself and even improve it. No interstates, so long distance travel by car was hard work. People didn't live in suburbs in large numbers. People lived in the country or the city, pretty much. Those burbs didn't go up until after the boys came home. There's a lot of sewer systems to maintain that literally didn't exist during WW… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?I said men as a whole, and I'll further specify that it counts equally for all ages from adolescence to senility. Sure you could keep things going if all you lost was 60% of a small cohort. But not if you lose 60% of the entire male workforce. The vital maintenance that keeps modernity going is more than 99% performed by men. If you lose 60% of your maintenance personnel, things will stop very soon. You'll be able to triage certain vital locations. Some huge cities may be able to keep streetligh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 10:55 PM |
| 1 | For those who believe "rape culture" rhetoric is unfair, etc.. where do you think most women learned it?"partially responsible for" is weasel language. It could mean various things. Crime statistics alone are enough to prove that a small subset of the male population are very, very bad indeed. When you voluntarily go somewhere alone with a guy you don't know, you know what the worst case scenario is. What's the best case scenario? Marriage proposal followed by happily ever after? Those are the facts. One could make the case that taking such a risk is irresponsible, which is entirely distinct from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 10:43 PM |
| 0 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?It's not all that nice being accused of something you didn't do. Were you expecting a Vulcan? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 08:32 PM |
| 0 | For those who believe "rape culture" rhetoric is unfair, etc.. where do you think most women learned it?A bunch of women replied, "OUR FATHERS." Hopefully this happened before they came of age. If, as a silly young girl, you fall into the delusion that all men will rape you, that is forgivable. If you are a fully-grown adult and you still haven't understood that the rapists, harassers and ass-grabbers constitute no more than 5% of the male populace, you're retarded and you shouldn't be outside without a chaperone anyhow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?So you wouldn't even try another lady? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Did anything close to 60% of the male population get drafted in WW2? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 07:31 PM |
| 0 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Yeah walking will happen a lot. There will be a lot of horse manure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Generosity is always a plus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:04 PM |
| 0 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?You think the trains will be running, LOL? In this scenario, it's a given that technology will revert a few centuries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?There's a lot of hypocrisy in looking at a thread you don't like, then posting on it to tell everybody the incredibly important news that the thread doesn't meet your approval. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?All the more reason to investigate whether their hypothesis makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?So grow up and post somewhere else. What's wrong with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?You asked a straight question and I answered truthfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Is this some kind of “let’s get revenge against women” type thing? Nope, but a lot of paranoid people seem to imagine so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 04:25 PM |
| 4 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?I'm pretty sure they'll want to keep their trucks, based on the truck owners I have known. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 04:23 PM |
| 4 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Why are you responding to a thread you consider dumb as fuck? I see threads like that every day. You can tell because I don't post on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?That's the reason I didn't ask about me personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?I'm curious to know which. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?And are you attracted more to males than females, all else being equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?beta orbiters Would you expect beta orbiters to still be a thing? If 60% of the competition disappear and you still can't get a girlfriend, being an orbiter won't help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Well, it's still relevant. Women will have a choice to embrace celibacy or pursue somebody in the 40%, or go lesbian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?I just asked how your life would be different, not how much you care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Right, so how would that work out, IYO? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Note, it's a hypothetical, not something I am calling for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Well, it's what a whole bunch of MGTOWs claim to want. I'm just curious about whether the consequences imagined by women differ from those imagined by MGTOW and guys who are similar if not using the label. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:28 PM |
| 4 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?Why would there be fewer SH cases? If the number of women in relationship collapses, and an absolute majority of women are unable to find a male partner, it's a big assumption to say that the numbers of women committing SH will hold steady. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Women: how would your life be different if 60% of men decided to have no contact with women?what is this supposed to prove that we didn't all know already? Sometimes, people post questions just because they are curious to hear the answer. It's not always about trying to prove something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 03:23 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Approaching women is useless (for men).Granted. If a person is willing to subordinate everything else in life to bedding a woman, he'll get one eventually. In the end, masturbation is a pretty good deal for the reasons above. Like the Greek said: it's as if you can make hunger go away by rubbing your belly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/17 08:22 AM |
| 5 | CMV: "I just want a nice guy" is the female equivalent of "I like girls who don't wear any makeup"Well, country music is the most popular music, so obviously you and all of your friends all prefer country to all other musical styles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/17 07:57 PM |
| 7 | CMV: "I just want a nice guy" is the female equivalent of "I like girls who don't wear any makeup"Wait, why the fuck does "I like girls who don't wear any makeup" need to have a secret ulterior motive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/17 09:22 AM |
| 1 | If men are polygamous, and women are hypergamous, does monogamy tend to favor women?The Dominant male preventing his harem from having access to any other men is something that has been observed throughout history. It's also seen in chimps. The interesting thing is that this doesn't end well for the dominant male as he ages. He's got to sleep sometime, and all it takes is two rival males to take him down. They can get eaten alive by their own kind. A smart dominant will allow the betas to have some access to some of his females, some of the time. That kind of leader lives much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/17 03:27 PM |
| 3 | If men are polygamous, and women are hypergamous, does monogamy tend to favor women?Arguably, the spreading of disease via bodily fluids is probably a huge disadvantage to men and the promiscuous women they all have sex with. There may be an optimum point where you trade the reproductive success of promiscuity and reap the reward of relative safety from STDs. This would be true for both sexes, but the bias towards monogamy would be stronger for women as they are more susceptible to catching an STD from just one act of coitus. No condoms before the last Ice Age. A man can sleep … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/17 03:21 PM |
| 4 | Divorcing parents could lose children if they try to turn them against partnerWait, was that not true before? Like, before these proposed changes, are women able to walk up to a judge and say "You bet your last penny that I'm turning them against their father. I'm making up stories so that they will hate him. How you like them apples?" The implication is that the His Honor would be forced to say "Oh well, sorry to hear that. Keep the kids" Edit: I RTFA. UK judges are increasingly recognising the phenomenon. One wrote about a case where she was forced to transfer residence… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/17 02:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.The point with all of those guys is that millions of people know their names. Do you know how many lunatics there are in a million people? The average Joe knows maybe 150 people, of which only one would be insane, at most. So an accusation against a nobody is way more persuasive than an accusation against someone famous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanRead Jezebel. Only a couple thousand articles in there from hardcore activists who buy an account for the sole reason of reporting gamers trash-talking each other consensually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 12:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanAny number of feminazi media outlets that will print allegations without checking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 08:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanBy taking banter between gamers and pretending it's sexual harassment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 06:32 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanBecause she's far more likely to be a hostile feminazi saboteur than a gamer of any kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 06:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanWell people who are impossible to impress exist in both sexes and once their proclivities are well-known, they get ignored. So if there's a person who won't recognize competence, women can rest assured that that person's opinion counts for nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?The hedonism gets boring after a while, and you want to make your mark on the world. Julius Caesar would agree with you. He was a sex hound for the first part of his life. Did he make a mark? One twelfth of your entire life is named after him, so you decide! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/17 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?From reading the study, attractiveness was assessed by two or three people at varying ages. Unless you can correlate that with sexual success, I don't think you can say it's definitely right for sexual strategy. Maybe there were some other biases going on. I think n count is the best measure we have for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?How is attractiveness measured? Subjectively or by n count? I've read that length of criminal record correlates directly with reproductive success in a lot of studies. I think it's ok to put criminals who get caught into the loser category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:49 PM |
| 3 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?Yeah maybe his IQ is super high and I overlooked it all my life. He's a better actor than I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?No. With underwater basketweaving at least you end up with something useful. Unlike an actual Critical Theory degree, in which you learn a tremendous amount of literature based on a single idea which is itself misconceived. So literally every word you read, all those hundreds of hours in the library, entirely worthless to humanity. The best thing that can possibly happen to somebody who's learned that is to forget it all instantly and never ponder it again. Any other outcome is a net minus for t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?Some people will fuck up that last tenth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?Always better in everything Well this dude was better at exactly one thing. Two things, if you count easy-going generalized charm. Kind of mediocre at most other stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?ADHD is primarily an impulsivity disorder. You don't say? Figures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:31 PM |
| 8 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?The 19 year old me was jealous as fuck, though also totally psyched about the numerous rebound chicks with pussies tighter than a gangster's alibi. That guy "left" me seven hot chicks and one other lady who I do not care to mention. So my friendship with him actually increased my n count by a fair percentage, indirectly. Nonetheless, I and every man he knew (gays included) envied his charm. No shame in admitting it openly. Now I see the charm was a coping mechanism developed in pre-pubescence to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:27 PM |
| 14 | Are Chads more likely to end up as losers?OP has her claws out, probably bitter he didn't fuck her back in the day Note to self: mention own Y chromosome more often to avoid such responses | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Only unsuccessful men think that women's attractiveness is all physical looksWait, does being unsuccessful blind men to what they find attractive? Unsuccessful men still come into contact with women with great personalities, at work, in school etc. Surely when they meet these women, their natural libido will kick in and they will feel attracted to her personality. If I were to become more or less successful, would that affect who I find attractive? I don't see why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: In current days, an attractive man with options has no reason to entertain an LTR instead of spinning plates (dating non-exclusively).Is he like most men, likely to want kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 06:50 PM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?I meant treat in the sense of "consider", meaning that it's not an action that in itself harms another person. No matter what you could theoretically consider in your head, no matter how horrendous one might find it, will never harm me in any way unless the thought is permitted to become action. And sure, of course I agree that action which seriously affects others will often need to be regulated for public safety. When a philosopher (which Nussbaum is) says "treat", that is one of the concepts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 02:11 PM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Yet atheists, gays, communists, hippies and trans people have always been told that they should have different thoughts just because they didn't fit the societal ideals. So because some people treated gays, communists, hippies and trans people badly, gays, communists, hippies and trans people can treat other people badly? That sounds like a breathtakingly poor argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 01:58 PM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?I think there are definitely some cases where the justification for forced psychiatry is overwhelming. I don't doubt the power has been abused, especially in the USA, where legal authority is generally seen as giving a man the power to kill or maim anyone under their remit with impunity (in practice if not in law). I see the issue as one of banning or reducing the authority's de facto powers of violently crushing any of its inmates. There's forced psychiatry in Norway too, but I bet you'd consid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 12:11 PM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?So, are you willing to say that from now until the end of time, if an adult woman wishes to display her body to a consenting adult man, you will oppose all state efforts to prevent this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:28 AM |
| 0 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Ok, so what you are worried about is that feminism will fuel the new KGB? It is fuelling it. We forget that US corporate power, which is currently taking the KGB role, has significantly more money than the US government, and is more powerful in the USA than the Communist Party was in the USSR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:26 AM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?"the right not to be treated like an object," Who gets to decide that? If it's anyone other than the person accused of the thought crime, I oppose your view and would happily give up my life to prevent it from taking over the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:22 AM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Brain scans keep improving year after year. Do you really want to bet that machines won't be able to reliably spot crimethoughts in 25 years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:20 AM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Lastly there is no way to police thought. That's very obviously wrong, as the Gestapo and NKVD should have made clear. It's easy to make a certain thought illegal. In fact it's one of mankind's most long-standing hobbies. People express thoughts all the time. On paper, on tape, online. The job of a thought cop is to seek out and punish such expressions, which, despite what you may think, is not at all difficult for an entity with the legal power of a state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:17 AM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?I can still critique or challenge your understanding of Nussbaum. Well, you have access to my thoughts, and Nussbaum's thoughts, right here in the thread. Know what you DON'T have? Any example of me failing to understand anything she said in the link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:13 AM |
| 3 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?There's nothing wrong with thinking of somebody as a slave, or imagining them to be one, yes. Kind of a weird question, given that you know perfectly well that enslavement is a deed, not a thought. If I didn't know much better, I'd imagine you were trying a very stupid bait-and-switch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:12 AM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?it is okay to try and keep them That statement is nonsensical unless somebody somewhere is trying to take them away. You've almost admitted that the endgame for you is to "take away" the right people have to display their bodies and the right of people to enjoy such display. Your statement makes no sense otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:08 AM |
| 3 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?and I'm answering a question that you had You're only answering the question if you believe that all humans have a right not to be objectified. If that isn't your view, it's just derailing the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:04 AM |
| 3 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?But do you agree that for one person to treat another person as "not a person, but an object" is wrong? Nope. Not even a littly, teeny bit. You can spend the next week objectifiying folks as hard as your brain will let you, and that it perfectly moral and good and doesn't in any way damage my perception of your moral standing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 11:02 AM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Objectification is always, per the definition linked in the OP, wholly a cognitive phenomenon. It is never a real-world deed that causes matter to move outside the brain. If you don't believe objectification infringes any rights, isn't it rude to be posting here? Wasn't it patently clear that the thread does not apply to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:35 AM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?To clarify, do you believe a person has a right not to be objectified (taking objectification to be that which is in the Nussbaum link in the OP)? You have every right to criticize whatever you want. I'm only interested in people who feel that objectification is a punishable act and an infringement of the rights of the objectified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:31 AM |
| 1 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?To clarify, do you believe a person has a right not to be objectified (taking objectification to be that which is in the Nussbaum link in the OP)? If you don't, the thread isn't really seeking your input. I'm generally looking for people who think that they (or the state) are justified in punishing a person for breaking Nussbaum's rules. If that's not you, then it's not you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:29 AM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?Actually, Nussbaum's idea of "objectification" is a little more nuanced than you suggest. Show me how what I "suggested" about Nussbaum's idea of "objectification" does not fully comport with Nussbaum's linked definition. Kant was an extreme autist who died hundreds of years ago. I absolutely refuse to allow such a catastrophic failure of a human being to be lionized and to be promoted as a guide to conduct without opposition. The man had a handful of ideas that weren't over-wrought garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:21 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: How strong is your personal androphobia?I suggest you include this link in your OP. https://areomagazine.com/2017/10/17/androphobia-and-how-to-address-it/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:19 AM |
| 2 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?What do you think 1984 thought police do, except impose their movement's views on people who hold different views using force, not persuasion? We get that you don't like that we enjoy looking at sexy women. That's NOT our problem, it's yours. Your situation is analogous to MAGA people hating gays because they like being gay/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 10:16 AM |
| 7 | If you believe a person has a *right* not to be objectified, what justifies this restriction on the thoughts of another being?female bodies being used to sell cars and videogames and shit Apparently this is a problem for you, I take it. What business is it of yours if car-sellers and car-buyers have their transaction involve some people who are pleasant to look at? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 09:36 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?while attempting to live up to his gender role Consciously or otherwise? I've seen a number of men refuse to see a doctor for a concerning issue because they think it would make them look weak and unmanly. No, you've seen men who are disinclined to go to the doctor because it's not a pleasant experience for them. You have no basis for saying their specific motives were "they think it would make them look weak and unmanly". You are sufficiently scientifically trained to know that the data you hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/17 08:05 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?For example women wearing make up is a gender tole but so is taking care of children. How much it is culturally based doesn't matter for the definition. Taking care of children is totally intrinsic to the being of many women. It's essentially the pinnacle of their life, for them. The time they feel they're doing what they were literally born to do: the essence of the most plausible claim to "purposefulness" that seems congruent with biology. Go anywhere in the world where people aren't starving,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Right, I believe the term more usually means things that are not biologically obvious, like having periods, getting pregnant, uterine infections etc. You could also specify a statistically valid trend universal in human cultures for females to talk about intra-group personal relations significantly more often than males, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Are women graduates taking more from society than they give back?This is how a society dies. Every civilization that has ever fallen without a foreign invasion has fallen in precisely the same way: A dominant caste obtains control over the surplus production which is the core element of all civilizations (Marx got that much right). This arrangement can be sustainable to an infinite duration, provided the dominant caste doesn't expand too much. But it's rare to find a dominant caste that can contain their extractive appetites. Usually the dominant caste decide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/17 11:27 AM |
| 2 | If sex with a woman is an achievement for men, why doesn't the average man fuck a bunch of land whales?Sex isn't an achievement It's in the eye of the beholder. But evolution certainly made our minds to FEEL like it's an achievement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/17 05:50 PM |
| 6 | If sex with a woman is an achievement for men, why doesn't the average man fuck a bunch of land whales?That's the whole point. If a chubber finds she can't attract a guy in the top 20%, she's more likely to abandon sex entirely than lower her standards to the top 30%. Men, by contrast, tend to be more proactive in lowering standards to below rock bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/17 05:49 PM |
| 4 | If sex with a woman is an achievement for men, why doesn't the average man fuck a bunch of land whales?Land whales have plenty of thirsty incels ready to bone them, but they prefer donuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/17 05:46 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?behavoirs born out of masculine gender roles But AFAIK science literally hasn't determined which traits are wholly environmental and which are wholly inherited, so taking a dogmatic stance of "behavior Z is born of gender roles" seems epistemically arrogant to say the least. What if science comes up with definitive proof that behavior X is, in fact, caused by an inherited trait and is not at all motivated by the power of suggestion? An obvious example are the brain scan data of various sociopath… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/17 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: What is the explanation for these two detectives? Does this illustrate the reality of the predatory nature of the male sex drive for all men and just how helpless they are in the face of it? Or are they?The NYPD is a beast in and of itself. They commit acts of insanely illegal brutality on a daily basis, so to be a cop in NYC requires you to have no human decency. If you have human decency, you'll report your colleagues on the first day. What you describe is pretty much universal behavior for soldiers in an occupying army. Soldiers of occupation have always treated the women under them as their sexual playthings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:36 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?For real, are you getting paid by the goddamn word? This isn't about sociopaths. This is about norms that pressure men to act like sociopaths. Who are you to say precisely what Kupers was referring to? Are you privy to Kupers' thought process? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Sure, but so do prostitutes, and they do it for the same reason, too. Savage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:53 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?The concept is needed because if it's true You really should have stopped there. Spongebob Squarepants would be a documentary if all events depicted therein were true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:51 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?LOL, I've dissected your arguments into pulp, and you're so enmeshed in the bubble you think you won! Gotta love pigeon chess! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:49 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Now imagine a young boy that grows up hearing thousands of sentiments like that "harmless joke". That same young boy is submitted to thousands of hours of feminist propaganda, so the danger of being innocently misled is almost nonexistent. If he's susceptible to jokes, he will also be susceptible to feminist dogma. If we assume that kids are easy to brainwash, then we must also assume that as the majority of media he is exposed to is heavily infused with overt feminist messaging, the kid will ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Is women's growing sexual freedom positive or negative for humanity?Dying alone is highly preferable to that. That attitude, while morally praiseworthy, is not the talk of a selfish gene. That attitude does nothing to make your genes survive, and if anything, harms its ability to do so. The brute facts of biology are such that an organism which is willing to be amoral in extreme situations has a survival advantage over one which prefers death to amoral behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:44 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Equally, I would say that if you educated yourself on what constitutes a valid argument, you'd realize feminist literature contains few, if any. Where they make sound arguments, they are never original, and are usually universally known among literate peoples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 01:08 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?I've determined the output is garbage. I've read tens of thousands of pages of feminist argumentation over the years. The best of the best, the absolute finest and most important works from the feminist canon by popular assent of feminists. It's all garbage: at its best it's effective propaganda, which is an art form in itself and there are good examples of propaganda in the canon. But that speaks to the manner of presentation of the argument rather than the argumentation itself. As arguments, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 12:42 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Read my reply to BiggerD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 12:27 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Once again you post sources that don't support your claim. That's feminism for you. What feminist has ever produced sources that support their claim? "Asking for sources" = sexism in their eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 11:19 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Toxic masculinity includes sentiments like this Toxicity is the degree to which a chemical substance or a particular mixture of substances can damage an organism. Can the harmless joke you linked really damage a human? Not unless the human is a young child or a mentally impaired adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 11:17 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?What is toxic masculinity The definition given by Terry Kupers is what I'll use: "the constellation of socially regressive male traits that serve to foster domination, the devaluation of women, homophobia and wanton violence" It's an example of pseudoscientific dogma. More specifically, it's a list of things that SJWs whine that men do too much of, in their view, and the thing that unites the items on the list is the disapproval of the same SJWs. and why is it bullshit? First reason? It's nothin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 11:09 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Find the feminist idea that you think is most complex and difficult to understand, and I'll shred it to pieces while you watch, kiddo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 12:22 PM |
| 2 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?He means we are pressured into Norm from Cheers, the fat drunk from the 80s sitcom. Multiple versions of Norm. Norms. Norm is pretty masculine, apart from the manboobs so they're the masculine Norms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 12:07 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Oh snap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 12:05 AM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Don't feel pressured to do either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/17 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonIn experiments, a minority of women consistently do not discriminate against crying men. It's possible you belong to this group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:57 PM |
| 6 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?She's saying everybody's doing intersectionality this winter, darling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:53 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Feminists talk about a lot of shit that they don't actually care about, A human being literally can't care about the huge, unwieldy mess of unfortunate victim groups, and constantly-growing ways to hurt somebody's feelings unintentionally that nobody thought were a big deal ten years ago. You'd be a gibbering wreck in an instant. The scale of human suffering is enormous and the amount you can do to palliate it is minuscule. So people think instead in dead, numerical abstractions, because that is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:51 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Thundercunt I really don't want my dick in anything with the word Thunder attached to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:40 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?It's when the toxicity is born out of a gender role. Which does sometimes happen. Can you frame that as a falsifiable hypothesis? It doesn't have to be hugely detailed, just sketch out the conditions that would cause you to say "OK turns out my hypothesis isn't true". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:38 PM |
| 2 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Some of us don't think we have collected enough data to conclude that what you call "gender roles" are outdated yet. Not to any reasonable standard of scientific certainty, either, even if we're assuming some concrete metric could be found that would satisfy all onlookers with a consistent theory of the universe. How about you be orders of magnitude more precise about the precise mechanism by which gender roles play out, and while you're at it your evidence for belief that these traits are easil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:35 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?their explanations are pretty clear as well. Pretty clearly trite, to my eyes. Sub-fortune cookie assertions, half-truths and tortured logic were much in evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:28 PM |
| 2 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Because you're eager to confirm your bias. Hello kettle, my how black you are! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:26 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?I think it's still kind of requires an extraordinary amount of hubris to buy into Bingo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:26 PM |
| 2 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Except if you do that you will lose something precious that you will never, ever recover: Your time. It's a bullshit concept. There's nothing there. It's just a pile of feces. It has layers, and you can inspect those layers. But all that you end up with is a diploma that says you've made yourself an expert in the layers in one pile of excrement. Is that a good use of a sentient mind's precious time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:09 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?It's not really about women Then it would be called toxicity, not Toxic Masculinity. Thanks for playing, better luck next time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:05 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?To me it looks more like a portemanteau word nicegirls use to qualify men who don't comply to women's goals and happiness and have boundaries. Someone's starting to think for himself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:04 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Your reply tells me you're avoiding the very clear question: Why marry the two concepts at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:03 PM |
| 2 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Any stupid feminist horseshit idea can have a Wikipedia article. The only requirement is that "reputable journals" have published the article. The idea that Newton's Laws of Physics are "a rape manual" is the kind of garbage that's been publishable for decades in feminism. They went past the Cray Cray Event Horizon many moons ago. (I mean, have you seen the hats on that march?) If the authors of "The Conceptual Penis" hadn't exposed their paper as a deliberate hoax, it would still be sitting in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 11:00 PM |
| 1 | People who believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity": can you explain why the concept is needed?Why marry the two concepts at all? Guess what, you never came near any kind of answer to that question. Now, I'll take your weak sentences and make them stronger and applicable to all of humanity: "only gay men read" is toxic masculinity behavior , not caring about reading isn't. "only faggots eat vegetables" is toxic masculinity behavior, preferring meat over vegetables isn't. "real men don't cry" is toxic masculinity behavior, having control of your feelings isn't. Formerly sexist moonshine be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/17 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonBear in mind that these are not dispassionate historical accounts, but sure, showing immensely strong emotion on occasion will often be useful. Think of a dishonest politician who strategically sheds a tear at a poignant moment in a TV interview to win voter sympathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 06:19 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Tremendous, supportive media reactions to incidents like Harvey Weinstein and Brock Turner prove there is no rape culture in the United StatesDid you hear about the people who did speak out getting black balled? "Speak out in public", or report to the cops? A crime should not be publicly announced until the prosecutors decide to go after the guy. This is vital for all crimes as the accusation is in itself a punishment, therefore there needs to be due process to establish the facts before the accusation becomes public. For example, if a woman accuses Zak of raping her on Bourbon St on Mardi Gras, the cops need to talk to Zak first befo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonOne doesn't need to be a crybaby to be in touch with their emotions. How would you know if a person is out of touch with their emotions? Can't they just be feeling them without expressing them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonThe serial killers are the tip of the iceberg, but there are sociopaths who will only kill one person, and they do. A serial killer is essentially an extremely composed, self-controlled sociopath who's able to plan his shit out so far in advance that he can get away with it. But every random spouse murderer has some of that in him, just lacks the self-control to plan the deed far enough to get away. Very few women will ever kiss a serial killer, but maybe a majority have kissed a sociopath who's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonsurround yourself with empathetic people who would help you if you need it. you're a human being. you deserve it. I do that anyway. I'm not stupid. The thread's nothing to do with me in particular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonThe worst labels you can put on a man for acting on his anger are "hothead", "short tempered", "short fused", etc. When you need impeccable discipline in a military unit, this would be a good drill sergeant. You want a guy who comes down super heavy for minor infractions, it's a key part of his job. Entire nations have disappeared because of insufficient military discipline. The USA is built on the graves of hundreds of such nations, destroyed by their inability to match the European invaders in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonYou can do a lot of irreparable damage which you'll regret while angry. FTFY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonActually, the people you really should fear, the Ted Bundy, dark triad charmers, this advice is 180 on what you should be doing. They don't yell at you when you make them mad: they take you someplace remote and you wish you were dead until you are. A guy who expresses strong displeasure by vocalization is a hell of a lot better than the baseline "caveman" human expression: physical force. It's a signal you're dealing with a human capable of empathy and not a sociopath. A sociopath knows how to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonjust because a face is composed, do not confuse that with the mind behind being devoid of emotion. I only spoke of the outwardly detectable expressions of emotion in my OP. We feel as much as anybody, but we don't cry as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonSomebody told me that FIFA are starting to clamp down on it in some leagues. I don't know the details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonOld men have so little testosterone, they're essentially women. So the rules for elderly men are the same as for women. But everybody likes a stoic old man much more than a regularly-weeping one. That's why Clint Eastwood is revered despite a deeply limited acting style. Not too many of his iconic roles involve him doing much sobbing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonWhat they really want is women who act like men. And women want men to act like women, spending ridiculous amounts of time and effort nest-building as if that's not a deep-seated female drive. What if it all boils down to "one sex wants the other to share the former's preferences and abandon those proper to the latter" or you can boil it further down to "assholes refuse to live and let live". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonIn soccer, it's a foul to trip an opposing player. If the opposing player is injured when he falls, the punishment is worse: a penalty. This puts the goalkeeper in a bad position because he doesn't have his usual defenders helping out: it's just him against a fast-moving ball kicked by a perfectly-positioned guy with ninja skills. It's easy to get a goal from a penalty, relatively. So when a soccer player is tripped, he pretends to be injured. His face will adopt a tortured grimace and he'll ado… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonIf it's bullshitty, the experiment will prove you right and we'll all know something new. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 12:55 PM |
| 2 | Let's discuss the notion that men "stifle their emotions" specifically because of societal pressure & no other important reasonWas saying that feminism makes an assumption, on no founding I can actually see, that these traits are “culturally programmed into men” and therefore can be “culturally unprogrammed”. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Why do men insist that they don’t want an educated or career woman, yet get mad when women need their money?Men always say “we don’t give a damn about your education/career/how much money you make”, yet when the bill comes they’re always complaining about how they have to pay for everything. I'm certain this is not a majority of men between the ages of 18 and 55. Most of them are definitely fine with working women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 12:17 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Tremendous, supportive media reactions to incidents like Harvey Weinstein and Brock Turner prove there is no rape culture in the United StatesI keep hearing about women who "felt devastated" because they reported the alleged assault to Weinstein's fucking business associates. I hear nothing about these women doing their civic duty and going to the cops. Pro tip: if somebody I do business with sexually assaults you, don't tell me. Tell the cops. I will continue doing business with people at least until they are charged with a crime, and maybe until they are convicted. That is my duty to them as a fellow citizen: I will not treat a pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/17 12:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeBesides, few animals besides humans engage in forced sex at all A hell of a lot of species have sex with the female habitually trying to defend herself during mating, and the male ignoring or beating her to stop the biting and scratching. By non-humans I just meant archetypal sentient beings, like Star trek aliens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 06:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeSo anyway, yes rape is an evolutionary strategy which has been frequently applied by men. However, it’s massively counterproductive in current society. Was there anything in my OP that hinted that rape isn't massively counterproductive in current society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 02:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeI don't have any details on whale morality, but I certainly don't assume it doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/17 02:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeI didn't specify humans tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 11:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeIs murder OK? No, because you missed the point: biology is not morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 11:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeI've already explained it enough times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 10:14 PM |
| 1 | The SMP does not include every living person in a given regionAttractive people can also be misanthropic or asexual or just fiercely religious and thus out of the SMP. Though even the most religious of men have occasional lapses where they attempt to have sex outside marriage, whereas strong religious belief is a very powerful predictor of never giving birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 09:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeHave you read about the original Stockholm incident? It seems to have been exaggerated beyond all connection with reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 08:54 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeThanks for adding value with your insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeBut we do probably have some underlying rules, one of which being empathy. If the result is that every human society, no matter how isolated, develops a strong societal prohibition on rape (societies differ on whether marriage vows constitute lifelong irrevocable consent), I'm happy to say it's as good as a prebuilt moral belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 08:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeSo it's probably a fair bet that our underlying like of justice and morality are based on a cohesive group better surviving. So if rape is so discpuraged today then there is probably something about it or a similar act that proved to be harmful. I agree with all that. I don't see the conflict with what I said. They don't really happen regularly enough for natural selection to do much. A lot of isolated neanderthal communities experienced actual extinction events which presumably were preceded wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 08:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapecan you give me a TL;DR on what will to life is The urge to reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeWell, I already explained I chose rape because the whole species is opposed to it. A human universal. It's one of those rare edge situations where you see clearly the disconnect between morality and raw biology. AKA NatureIsMetal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rape... and eat them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeThat's not morality though, thats genetic altruisim What's the difference in practice? If Confucian society makes a law stating its your legal duty to care for your family, I'd call that an instance of culturally driven morality in action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:46 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeThe bottleneck may not be permanent. Who knows when an invading army will arrive and breed with the offspring, who becomes the matron of a powerful dynasty? Something like that has happened to several of our shared ancestors, most likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:40 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeWhat guiding forces? From the OP: [1] will to life, [2] morality. The two forces which guide mankind. There are no "morality traits" it's completely learned behavior. LOL, that's just goofy. Every culture regards sacrifice for family as a moral duty, because it's a universal human trait, present in the overwhelming majority of all individuals across all populations. Kin preference is documented in thousands of species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeI made a claim, even if you don't agree it had a point. How did you derive "Sometimes rape is good." from my OP? In summary, my point was "will-to-life" and morality are separate entities. The former prizes survival over all else, and the latter prizes righteousness above survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeAsk a rape victim, I guess. Sorry to be blunt, but they're the people with most experience. I'm happy to trust rape victims when they say it's an experience to be avoided and never committed. I don't need gory details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeTL;DR "Sometimes rape is good." What? Way to TOTALLY miss the gd point! Grrrrr... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeIt's a philosophy thread. The issue is "can morality be inferred by whatever causes the species to thrive?" Rape's a side issue. I chose rape because we're all agreed that it's definitely immoral. Rape jokes, however, would be a divisive question. But we're united against real life rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Biological will-to-life and morality are diametrically opposed on the issue of rapeI don't. It's just a kind of natural experiment that might plausibly happen in the wild through happenstance. Though rare, one on one encounters happen on occasion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 07:19 PM |
| 1 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?Find me a gay male democrat elected official who doesn't openly advocate feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 10:28 PM |
| 1 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?So, a lot of Sapphic ladies there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 12:09 PM |
| 1 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?Have you heard of the Honey Badgers? One of the more prominent MRA groups and all led by a group of women who present in an extremely masculine style and (AFAIK) none of whom have male partners. Karen Straughan is their leader and she makes Rachel Maddow look like the girliest femme imaginable. She has two kids, admits she's bisexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 12:08 PM |
| 2 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?There are hundreds of openly gay male democratic politicians. Can you find me ONE who doesn't identify as a feminist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 12:02 PM |
| 1 | META: How many of us regulars actually want a low-moderation subreddit, and will post on it?To be honest you definitely don't belong on a low-mod sub. You're too eager to ban groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Why purge week made me a less angry personYeah, that's the fucking problem. Looks vs personality is plainly on-topic, but they've got an irrational fixation with the topic and will delete it before the adults can make contributions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 03:25 PM |
| 1 | [NOT a shitpost] Seriously: How can women even be insecure?Well, exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 03:01 PM |
| 1 | [NOT a shitpost] Seriously: How can women even be insecure?When Incels complain about not being able to get dates, they complain about not being able to get dates with HOT women. They know they can get dates with women, but 100% of those women will insist on charging a fee. What part of "being an incel means you are incapable of getting any kind of free sex from any woman" don't you understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 02:38 PM |
| 1 | [NOT a shitpost] Seriously: How can women even be insecure?Women are insecure because we're measuring ourselves against other women. How is that a sane way to go through life? You're guaranteed to get bad feelz that way. Are you the prettiest woman? Great, now you'll feel like shit when your looks go away. Are you less pretty than many others? Great, now you'll feel like shit when you meet the prettier ones, and you'll feel worse when the younger ones who used to be uglier than you start to outpace you as you age out. Don't. Fucking. Compare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Last Call: Purge Week EditionPPD is about the redpill not incels. That is the most ridiculous concept imaginable. It's like saying "this sub is about the Taliban, you must never mention Islam!!!!1!" Or "this sub is about baseball, how dare you mention pitchers!¦!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Mystery Picture Threadawwwwwww | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Mystery Picture ThreadThe risk/reward ratio is insane for posting a picture on anything related tangentially to antifeminism. Best possible outcome: some really satisfying lulz. Worst possible outcome: CNN doxxes you and you remain unemployable for life. It's like a coin flip where, if you win you get a dollar and if you lose you're castrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Mystery Picture ThreadI've woken up fucking someone. Hung over, she asked for sex and I agreed in my sleep. Woke up properly in mid-thrust. No victims involved, there was no way for her to know I was just replying automatically and not 100% awake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 01:42 PM |
| 1 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!Will you be upset if I don't leave? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 03:34 PM |
| 3 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!You can deal with that in a non-discriminatory way. If a given viewpoint is monopolizing discussion, you can apply proportionate measures, until the problem subsides. You can start by saying only on these days of the week can you post, or set a 3 post a day limit. With respect for free expression, intelligence and goodwill, you can move mountains. With none of those things, you get this clusterfuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 02:20 PM |
| 2 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!PPD problems were never your problems that is a blatantly false assertion. Most terpers were Incels at one point, and a great many remain celibate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 02:17 PM |
| 2 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!You need to understand why it's important for people who disagree to share and exchange their views debate (v.) late 14c., "to quarrel, dispute," also "discuss, deliberate upon the pros and cons of," from Old French debatre (13c., Modern French débattre), originally "to fight," from de- "down, completely" (see de-) + batre "to beat," from Latin battuere "beat" (see batter (v.)). Related: Debated; debating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:53 PM |
| 3 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!This is a sub for people who want to discuss sexual strategy. Like, moving from being an Incel to a non-Incel? Like most people who take an interest in the Pill? Preferably with other people who know something about it.... NOT a sub for discussing incels personal problems, with incels, If a person has a problem with his sexual strategy, and wishes to understand the problem better by coming here and asking questions, I'm cool with that. 24/7 Well, obviously 24/7 would be bad, but how about one da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:49 PM |
| 1 | If personality is so important, why do I get hit on by overweight women no matter how much of jerk I try to be?I'd like to hear the backstory behind that comment, never having been to Asia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:31 PM |
| 2 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!Closed-minded fanatics don't fit well in thoughtful and productive debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:30 PM |
| 2 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!The hypocrisy of the snowflakes who indulge in the hate dogpiling is tremendous. Isn't that the very epitome of being able-ist? At least the nihilistic shitposters consistently hate everybody, while the SJWs are happy to prey on the mentally ill guys who occasionally have a cry for help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:28 PM |
| 2 | From the only non-Incel on PPD who isn't a total cunt to Incels: Welcome back! Let's create a new sub where you can contribute!and give incels the platform they want. Hey, I didn't know ANTIFA had infiltrated the moderators. I bet the Terpers are delighted to be moderated by a guy who advocates for no-platforming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 10:49 AM |
| 1 | THE MODSYes. My aim sucks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Is this the winner of the Outstanding Achievement in Cunty Moderator Decisions ribbon?What part of my explanation is unclear to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Is this the winner of the Outstanding Achievement in Cunty Moderator Decisions ribbon?It was on topic. Dogs are mammals, like us. One of the recurring themes we see here is that various human behaviors are socially constructed What's the best proof against a given human behavior being socially constructed? It's a demonstration that other related species exhibit the same behavior. So we appear to have established that our mods have a basic science literacy problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Is criticism of moronic Moderator decisions censored during the purge?You a mod? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Who else thinks that the whole "looks don't matter" dictum is just a ploy to lure in Beta providers?Pretty much everyone with a brain cell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 05:51 PM |
| 1 | If a male is stronger than her overall, she sees him as a man. If a male is weaker than her overall, she sees him as a child or puppy. This is evidence for women being unable to love. [SERIOUS]Any sentence containing "Sees him/her as" is inherently hilarious to cognitive scientists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 05:50 PM |
| 1 | The purge is fantastic if you wish to know which posters are worthlessDo you know the difference between disagreement and shitpost threads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 05:49 PM |
| 1 | The purge is fantastic if you wish to know which posters are worthlessI spend the evening with your mother, where she alternates between deep tongueing my ass and licking my balls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it dehumanizing to call a woman a "female"?What if you don't want to say anything about her age? All the other words that come to mind are age-specific: girl, lady, woman etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 03:37 PM |
| 5 | The purge is fantastic if you wish to know which posters are worthlessLayer? I don't even know 'er. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 01:56 PM |
| 0 | Revised CMV: Females are Given Every Incentive and Encouragement by Society and Law to Take Advantage of Male VulnerabilityThis isn't even anything new! When civilizations decline, an obsession with transgender people becomes visible. You can see this in the ancient art from civilizations from the period immediately prior to the fall, lots of gender fluid characters represented. Julius Caesar was a big example of this. The guy was rampantly bisexual, building his political career by having sex with influential Roman officials, and spoke with a high-pitched woman's voice, and he was literally personally the guy who d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 10:33 AM |
| 1 | When have you ever seen this subreddit so vibrant? Having moderators was a mistake. Let's just keep it like this.Nope. Right now the retards are getting that shit out of their system. Do you REALLY think they will be quite as motivated to shitpost after 6 months? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/17 06:39 PM |
| 0 | When have you ever seen this subreddit so vibrant? Having moderators was a mistake. Let's just keep it like this.Cool, I wish you well in your new PPD-free life. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/17 06:36 PM |
| 1 | When have you ever seen this subreddit so vibrant? Having moderators was a mistake. Let's just keep it like this.Seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/17 04:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV Incels and Black Pillers Don't Have A Single Valid Argument Beyond, It's Not Fair [SERIOUS]If you don't want war, you have to negotiate. If you don't convince the other party that your proposal is fair, the negotiations fail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/17 04:01 PM |
| 1 | I just got married. When should I divorce rape him?At the most profitable moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 05:06 PM |
| 1 | What behaviors do men tolerate in women that women would never tolerate in men?I very rarely see anything like that, never physical threats or blows. Where you live, does this kind of behavior happen uniformly across cultural boundaries? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 07:43 PM |
| 5 | What behaviors do men tolerate in women that women would never tolerate in men?Then she goes for your fingers with her teeth, she can later claim he hit her in the open mouth and cut his fingers on her teeth. Refusal to permit contact to occur is the correct choice. Immediately retreat to a safe distance. After that it depends on the situation. Allowing her to take your hand, be close to her is to expose yourself to some nasty experiences with police or jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?Nah I think those people would fuck and then die of malnutrition because they didn't hunt or farm. Hyper-horny young man, barely sexual midlife guy. Barely sexual woman of any age, frequently. That's the stable pattern that provides enough time away from sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?Does anyone actually know the numbers for any mammal species? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 07:10 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?If that number is expanding very rapidly it could become a major issue in a relatively short time. With exponential growth, total saturation is eventually achieved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?Contrast people's rapid change in mating behavior with the time it takes to produce a new generation and your theory looks patently absurd. Are you conflating societally-driven change with biologically-driven? Both forces are at play, and any claim that excludes one needs mountains of evidence to support the exclusion. Where do you observe any rapid changes among women? High n count women are extremely rare. And I've never heard convincing proof that women were dramatically different in the time… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?To be fair, she probably didn't read the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Is it possible that a large proportion of people are just genetically unsuited for sexual activity?You do realize that gorillas are outliers, right? Only one of hundreds of species, and far more distant relatives than chimps and bonobos. Besides, when a female gorilla has access to an alpha, and she's in heat, she always mates with him. Human MGTOWs, like op says, in the rare instances where they get offered free heterosexual sex with a woman who weighs less than a car and is more than 15 years from collecting social security, always accept. It's (almost) only human females who engage in perm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Declining female happiness and the paradox of choiceHappiness is itself a choice. The big choice, the one that determines whether you will ever be happy is this: Will I figure out my own path, or will I allow ideologues to call the shots in my life? Every other choice you make is irrelevant if you choose wrongly. Women have been abandoning their lives to the ideologues for half a century now, and it doesn't look like it's going to stop soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Declining female happiness and the paradox of choiceSure, but recognizing a problem exists is the first step towards solving it. It's not a good situation, but it would be worse if nobody accepts something is awry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Declining female happiness and the paradox of choiceThe women themselves and people who have to share their lives with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Women with no male friends: blessing, or red flag?When I overhear random young women talking, it's usually to trash one of her friends who's not present to defend herself. The only exceptions I know are introverted women, and they hardly talk at all. What's a girl to do if she wants to have friendships with outgoing people who don't talk trash about her behind her back, and she can't find any women who fit the bill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Women with no male friends: blessing, or red flag?Gotta love how women's freedom goes down the drain when some women make friend choices which don't meet feminist standards. Suddenly there's no more "you go, girl!" from the usual feminist suspects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexSomeone saying going without sex is literally like going without air and water Now you're just getting incoherent. Do you even understand why the piece I quoted is totally wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/17 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexThat's not using a more general definition of the word need, it's being melodramatic. You may strongly believe that to be true, but the strength of your belief isn't evidence and you don't have anything else. Your feelz tell you that if it doesn't cause organ failure, it's not a need. That's not enough to settle the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/17 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexDo you ladies have a subreddit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/17 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexDepends on what definition of "need" we agreed upon. We haven't agreed on a definition, so this conversation is wandering around like the walking dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/17 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexnot a need Dude, you just have a different value system. "Need" isn't as strictly defined as you think it is. To you, a need only qualifies if it's something you'll definitely die of, if you don't have it. That's what you think of when somebody says "need". Other people view "need" less narrowly than you. It's extremely ancient wisdom that "man liveth not by bread alone" and most cultures accept that certain states of life can make it not worth living. In cultures like Tokugawa Japan and ancient… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/17 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexI prefer men who are overweight A lot of guys will be very ʘ‿ʘ just to know that you exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/17 10:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Can you provide a link to a single peer-reviewed scientific study that refers to "alpha" or "beta" men, or "alpha" and "beta" traits in humans?Steven Pinker is outspoken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Can you provide a link to a single peer-reviewed scientific study that refers to "alpha" or "beta" men, or "alpha" and "beta" traits in humans?Jordan Peterson is a PHD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexPriests, nuns and monks all specifically choose celibacy, so that's a false comparison. A better comparison is people forced into celibacy against their will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexAgain, to prove that you need to show that people who lack those things don't die significantly sooner than people who have them. If they tend to die younger, the facts would be against you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Casual Sex vs HaremsBecause the many women fantasy helps the species to thrive better than the one woman fantasy. Ergo the latter fantasy is the minority interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 03:27 PM |
| -1 | Women's need for motherhood is just as important as men's need for sexGive a human just those three things, plus a razor blade, and see how long he lasts. If he opens his wrists, will you admit that maybe, just maybe, his needs go beyond those 3 things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Are any of you uninterested in casual sex or having sex with multiple women at the same time?He says it's a fantasy, so clearly he wants it at some level. I think he's just being pragmatic because for most men, having multiple lovers causes problems and costs. The only real answer is if there are no costs at all. When men believe there are no costs, they have side chicks. See the research by Dr. David Buss if you have doubts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Are any of you uninterested in casual sex or having sex with multiple women at the same time?Even if there are zero complications? Even if your (faithful) significant other wants you to have sex with other women because it turns her on, and the women are totally chill and non-possessive? If all the usual drawbacks to the fantasy are absent, and it's just pure upside, the answer remains 'no'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Why does the manosphere try to suppress female promiscuity?I just think a lot of them have fifties attitudes from their parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?A 70 year old man can have a surplus of money and use it to get a young beautiful trophy wife. But if he lives in a society without money, how does the same man control access to a large quantity of food to use to bargain with a pretty young woman? The only way I can think of is to be the chief, but a chief who does much of that is sure to generate enormous resentment among the young tribesmen. Kind of abusing the privileges of office. Another thing is that non-money societies are strict sharers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?Are you aware that societies exist that don't use money? Societies that don't use money behave really different than ones that do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Question for unfixed dog owners: Do bitches hate male dog sexuality the same way human women hate human male sexuality?Literally asking if bitches hate male dog sexuality. Cuittler deleted it, I told him it's an earnest thread: I am, and others are, very curious about whether this hatred of male sexuality is nature or nurture. If another mammalian species displays the same behavior, that's a hint that it may be innate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Question for unfixed dog owners: Do bitches hate male dog sexuality the same way human women hate human male sexuality?Do you agree with the decision to censor the post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?If you don't know what a money based economy is, how do you know it's not necessary for gold digging to happen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Question for unfixed dog owners: Do bitches hate male dog sexuality the same way human women hate human male sexuality?Including when they, the females, are in the peak of their heat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 02:50 PM |
| 0 | Question for unfixed dog owners: Do bitches hate male dog sexuality the same way human women hate human male sexuality?Calling something stupid is easy. Demonstrating it is stupid is not easy. You couldn't do it. Try. I promise you I will demolish every reason you come up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: (re: financial abortion) Why exactly shouldn't men be responsible for where they put their penis and what happens to their sperm?That's kind of a low bar for assigning parental responsibility. I'd prefer the state to have a more thorough test for parental responsibility than simply checking if the guy's sperm entered her ovum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 02:34 PM |
| 0 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?Desiring sex with multiple young women is a pretty common desire from men In the same way that when the possibility exists of throwing a baby into a garbage compactor, it's pretty common for women not to want that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?I think the knowledge that you're disgusted is what drives the fetish: they know that this type of thing provokes a reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?By telling lies to the man and the greater community. That's a different beast, and one which can only happen in a society that uses money. The fact that gold digging as a sexual strategy requires a money based economy to function says that gold digging must be younger than the concept of money. Shallow roots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 07:46 AM |
| 0 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?The problem with gold digging is twofold: one, it's not really about "nature" because it's about money: impersonal power. Money is the power to persuade people who you don't know. Nothing like money existed in nature 10,000 years ago, so women didn't evolve over millions of years to engage in gold digging. Male sexuality did evolve over millions of years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 07:43 AM |
| 4 | Do any women love male sexuality? Or do all women hate male sexuality once they see it in its full?The viewing sex as a source of validation rather than as an expression of affection Isn't it possible that evolution endowed the sexes with inherently different neurological approaches to sex? If it's natural for men to regard sex as validation, while you experience it as an expression of affection, why can't you say "different strokes for different folks"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 07:35 AM |
| 1 | If this statement about child development is true, what are the implications for relations between the sexes, in LTRs especiallyI gave the title of the book it's from in the OP. If anyone wants to investigate the original text, all they need to do is Google the book title, copy and paste the results then request the text from the library. Did the people who complained even bother to Google the information I gave them? If not, why did you humor their complaint? If you're not going to Google a book title, why should a person be taken seriously as wanting to research further? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 05:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.No, the nomenclature needs to improve. The labels which we attach to concepts shouldn't contradict them. That's what I hate about feminist thinking. Anybody hearing the concept of "rape culture" for the first time will imagine a Futurama-style fictional world where society revolves around rape, maybe like the Gor universe. In reality it means something far less dramatic, and boils down to the culture just being severe on convicted rapists, but not having a huge societal explosion just because a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 08:36 AM |
| 3 | "Women who want a man just to provide an expensive lifestyle" Does this actually happen as often as redpill thinks?Are you talking openly marrying a guy because of his money like the First Lady? Not too often. Are you talking about guys being vastly less likely to find a girlfriend while they're not in a good-paying job, all else being equal? That's the normal situation. It's the same thing, but the first is direct and overt, the second one is deniable. "Why did I reject Steve in January and accept him in June? In June, Steve was just so much more confident." In January, Steve was still hunting for a job, in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 12:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.What's the point of repeatedly signalling to me how sick you are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:52 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?Well obviously don't continue dating somebody if you know you don't like him. There are levels of liking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:51 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.An ugly-but-fun woman will not likely have as good dating opportunities as an ugly-but-fun guy. Citation needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:50 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.He'll care less than he did as a kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.Evolution made women inherently more desirable relative to an equal SMV male This is a big logical problem. Watch how I rephrase it and you'll see the problem with what you just said. Evolution made apples inherently more desirable relative to an equal Fruit Market Value banana Logical problem: If apples have an equal Fruit Market Value to bananas, how can one be more desirable than the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:47 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.Does her looks really enhance the experience that much for you? Sex is sex, what difference does it make? Especially since she's going to get old eventually anyways, why does it matter so much? You're confusing two modes of thinking here. Youth appeals to the non-logical parts of the brain. But the thought "she's going to get old eventually anyways, why does it matter so much? " literally happens in a different part of the brain. The brain has constant separate processes all happening at once. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:42 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.Because the human mind has a bias to prioritize the immediate rather than the long term. Imagine a new car. An old man buys it, drives it for a week, then dies. The car goes to a used car lot. It's exactly as good as all the other cars from the same production line, but now it's thousands of dollars cheaper than all the other identical cars, because it's had one owner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:34 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.Having children who don't die and aren't retarded. That's not consciously in our minds, but it's definitely why evolution favors men who prefer younger women. Men who prefer older women don't pass on their genes very well through a thousand generations. Their line tends to die out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:31 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.The dating market does shift towards men's favour the older they get CITATION NEEDED | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:29 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women *do* likely have a dating market advantage... in typical Redditor demographics. However, overall, it's pretty even.Meanwhile, the female Person B almost certainly could not do this (except maybe for casual sex only). She’d mostly be seen to men as a dowdy single mother who is maybe slightly interesting to be around, but that doesn’t compensate for her age and looks. CITATION NEEDED The above is nothing but an assumption, based on no data that I'm aware of. It would be possible to run an experiment where you find such women and measure how long it takes for them to obtain a LTR, how many approaches, etc. Mayb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 11:28 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?She who takes no risks is guaranteed to lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 11:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Did you notice that both of the examples you gave revolve around rape? That's a tacit admission that rape is the king of false accusations: it offers maximum damage to the target with minimal risk to the false accuser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 11:05 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?The divorce is a safety net, not a destination. A slim majority of marriages still work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 09:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.If I were a sociopath? I'd ask to use his computer, and "discover" he's downloaded child porn. That's significantly more risky to you than it would be for any woman to accuse him of rape. It's a crime to put child porn on somebody's computer and forensic computer specialists can gather a lot of evidence. The cops will listen to his story about how it's weird that there's no trace of any child porn on the computer before the time the person with a huge grudge against the computer's owner borrowed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 09:19 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?I constantly meet women who would be great partners and mothers, who I feel no attraction to. I think probably most women are the same: they meet a lot of good men but feel zero attraction, despite the guy definitely having the potential to be a decent partner and father. Human attraction does not boil down to being a good partner and parent. Those are skills which can be learned. If learning those skills were capable of making an unattractive man into a catch: 100% of ugly men would train thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 09:08 AM |
| 0 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?choosing a guy just to raise kids and not be a cat lady but waking up every day next to him annoyed and dispassionate If that's the situation just divorce rape him. Then you still have the kid, some money from the guy, and the opportunity to find another guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 08:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.The question is why law enforcement should find the accused equally as credible at the accuser, So, your issue is you don't understand why courts have to be impartial. If a court is treating either side as if their claims have more validity than the other, that's corruption. and prosecute them as well. What? Are you seriously claiming that cross examination of an accuser is the same as prosecution? there's also the problem where you need to explain why rape would be the only crime with a ridicul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 08:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I've asked multiple times on this thread. That's not something you ask for evidence of Then you've lost the argument. The topic of discussion is the crime of rape. Crimes absolutely do require evidence. Discussion over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/17 08:44 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?Sure, as long as they have the wisdom not to get buyer's remorse when she's 60 and has lost all contact with her friend group because they're all raising kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 05:51 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?The life of a single mother in her forties is guaranteed to suck. It is at least possible that the guy she'll meet will be a decent partner and father and if he isn't, just divorce rape his ass and be a single mother. All logic says to at least try the relationship, because the downside is no worse than becoming a single mother and the potential upside is far higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 05:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.That's a review of a paper from 32 years ago, dude. Anyone claiming to know whether women are lying or truthing is delusional or lying. We know that different percentages of women claim rape, depending on how one asks. Some of the claims are lies, some are true. Beyond that, we have no information and anyone asserting otherwise is not speaking the truth. Also, in all contested criminal trials, the defendant will accuse his accuser of lying. Why should rape accusations be different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Implications of "she's not yours, it's just your turn"Keep her at arm's length, imagine she is fickle from the start so it doesn't hurt as much when she leaves. In a context where half of marriages fail, what's wrong with mentally preparing for the possibility that your marriage might not be one of the lasting ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 03:29 PM |
| 0 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?Well, they're only guessing how great it's gonna be as a dried-up fortysomething single woman who never sees her friends because they're all raising kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 03:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.if she freezes up, stop. I've repeated this point a million times. If you're claiming that the freezing response is not difficult to spot, my answer is "that's great news, let me see your evidence". If you don't have any evidence, but you don't want to withdraw the point, my only reply is "go away and find some evidence, then we'll talk". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 03:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Because you have been secretly filming all rape accusers and have proof their claims are all true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 03:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.It's not an attitude, it's a natural drive without which you, and everyone you ever loved, would never have been born. You may not like the male sexual impulse, but as long as there is a human race, it will remain there. As an adult, it's your duty to make your peace with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 03:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.You're asserting this is a really easy state to recognize. Citation needed. No citation? I'm afraid we need to ignore your points for lack of evidence. Evidence is king. If you have none, don't expect to persuade many smart people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Involuntary celibacy study: life transitions and trajectoriesIf TRP gets a veto on who posts threads here, I will unsubscribe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Involuntary celibacy study: life transitions and trajectoriesThat's impressively ignorant, given that TRP depends on incels for their subscriber base. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/17 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Involuntary celibacy study: life transitions and trajectoriesThere's no rule on reddit or anywhere else that says upvotes = truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/17 02:23 PM |
| 4 | Involuntary celibacy study: life transitions and trajectoriesStupid rules are often popular, but truth isn't a popularity contest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/17 11:15 AM |
| 5 | Involuntary celibacy study: life transitions and trajectoriesThat stupid rule, which the mods swore would lead to the collapse of civilization if it wasn't there... Do you guys have enough shame and decency to apologize to those of us who warned you it was a ridiculous waste of effort and would only please the mouth breathers who wouldn't know an idea if it bit into their ass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.They've got a very strong track record of getting pretty much everything they have demanded in the last 100 years. Maybe getting rid of the right to fair process is where their winning streak will finally quit. I don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 06:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.The feminist push is to replace all current rape law across the western world with versions of the system used in US colleges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Enough with the boring threadsare whats trending right now among PPD users then so be it, it's good that people are having these discussions because they are important Why is OP and so many other users so unable to process this really simple, obviously true point you are making? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Enough with the boring threadsYes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: If a man and a woman both get drunk and have sex, why is it that the man is declared a rapist and the woman bears no responsibility? What happens when two drunken men have sex?outrage porn Chutzpah of the century awarded to the feminist who complains about his opponents using "outrage porn" when complaints about outrages, real and usually imagined, constitutes almost the entirety of feminist literature, apart from impenetrable, meaningless academic word salad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: If a man and a woman both get drunk and have sex, why is it that the man is declared a rapist and the woman bears no responsibility? What happens when two drunken men have sex?Because in any collaborative effort involving a man and a woman, the two partners share in the glory of any positive outcome. If there is a negative outcome, humans always assume the woman is blameless and the man is entirely at fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:28 PM |
| 3 | Enough with the boring threadsMy response is: whatever it is that the OP finds boring, I want much, much more of that. Hopefully every thread in PPD will be of the kind that will make OP's head swim with boredom. With luck, he will unsubscribe and we won't have to deal with whining pleas for even more unnecessary censorship on a sub which is already stupidly over-moderated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Why did you insist I answer your hypothetical questions when you refuse to reciprocate? That's very rude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I don't see a difference, most rants are angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?ambiguous consent situations which actually end up being actual rape are easier to convict Exactly: that's precisely the issue. Easier to convict is a warm, cosy, fuzzy way to say "innocent men go to prison" Have you ever seen a movie called To kill a mockingbird. Spoiler alert: it's about an innocent black man falsely accused of rape in a racist Southern town, and how he gets railroaded into a death sentence by a corrupt jury. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?These are clear evidence that less liberty for women = more people using women as second class citizens I think we have to say that the birthplace of Islam is probably an outlier in this regard, and any attempt to generalize from Saudi Arabia to the West is very easy to dismiss as an obviously invalid comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 09:49 AM |
| 2 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?Affirmative consent also protects vulnerable women from actual rapists in terms of getting actual rapists convicted. So all in all affirmative consent actually solves 2 problems You're making some sweeping statements about the wonderful benefits of a brand new, untested suite of laws. What is your evidence that reality will conform to the beautiful predictions you make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?Not nearly most of them, as data suggests These are unverified claims. Many women don't understand what constitutes rape, so it's perfectly plausible that women are reporting consensual sex as rape. It's also possible that every claim is 100% factual, and it's possible that half the claims are true and half are inaccurate and misremembered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?Liberty does have risks. But taking women's liberty away ends up giving us useless and more violent males, who hurt women and children even more. That's an extraordinary claim there. We're waiting to see the extraordinary evidence now. When will you be posting it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 09:09 AM |
| 4 | Q4all - should women not be allowed to do anything without supervision or permission?You sound as arrogant as men in Egypt or Pakistan or India who say the exact same thing. Who gang up and rape and kill women who venture out on buses. Who rape street children just because they are "there" and easy to get. Who engage in "honour killings". No he fucking doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 09:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.You seem to be on a rant instead of thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.None of your post is relevant to anything I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Well, you're assuming that a psychologist won't be able to see signs that indicate whether a person is the type to freeze up. Also, I've thought about it and maybe, with training, a sex partner could be taught to recognize when a person has frozen up, so a woman could legally consent to sex if she has a suitably trained and certified partner. Where do you get the idea that physical threats, inadvertent or otherwise, is so rare? I don't assert that it's rare or common. Why would I, without scient… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:52 AM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Expressionless and neutral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I love this assumption that criminals are simply mistaken, or autistic. There's no such assumption made in my post. Nothing I propose makes life easier for a genuine rapist. If you think about it, it's worse for rapists because now women will have an additional motive to loudly say "no!" I don't know, but I bet some rapists are what I'll call, for want of a better word, "gray area rapists": men who will continue having sex with an unwilling woman only if she stays silent and doesn't struggle. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 08:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.You can only truly tell in retrospect, I think: people who make valid physical threats tend to leave certain clues. It's rare for a real physical threat to be offered between mature adults, most business is done without even the mention of overt force. You seem to be emphasizing the point that it's hard to prove a person broke a rule after the fact. That's true for claims of rape, it's also true of any number of other crimes. Just because a rule may be difficult to police, it's still important t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 07:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Well what's your reply, though? In your hypothetical world, can a blind man and his sighted wife legally have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 07:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.permalink: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6wrvdd/cmv_if_freezing_up_is_real_women_shouldnt_be_able/dmaa7i4/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Article: What I Hate About Dating Women vs What I Hate About Dating MenHow smart do you feel you are compared to the average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Article: What I Hate About Dating Women vs What I Hate About Dating MenShe's not kidding, men really don't like dating far below their intelligence level, unless it's a fuckbuddy thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:49 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I answered your two hypothetical questions. Can you do the same for my question about blind men and whether women can have sex with them, under your proposed rules? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I have this special superpower called being able to empathize with other beings, using imagination to fill whatever gaps my personal experience cannot supply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.If a person attempts to initiate unwanted sex, and the person who doesn't want sex fails to say "no" that person is obviously unready to have sex with only one exception: If the person trying to initiate sex positively did something that a reasonable, calm person would identify as a credible threat to engage in very serious violence. In that very limited circumstance, it's fine for the person to freeze. If they freeze in any other circumstance, we can say they're not mentally ready for sex, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 05:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.No, it's an "if you go down this path, here are the inescapable consequences" post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.This level of management unfortunately is required if the feminist chimera of "freezing up" exists in the way feminists claim it does. I am skeptical as to its existence, but if it is real and affects more than one in fifty women, then some rule like the OP is needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Well, for most instances of sex we can take it that all that stuff was present when they were still vertical. The issue is that consent can be withdrawn at any point and freezing up can also happen at any point. If you claim it's always easy to recognize, then I'm sure you will find it very easy to find the citation to proof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Sure. And...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Again, if you are claiming that freezing up is easy to recognize, we'll need to see scientific data to back it up. All the data mentioned so far refers to wild animals and anecdotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.You don't think it's self-evident that a human who freezes in terror during sex is not ready for sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:24 PM |
| 9 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.It was a rhetorical question. Depending on definitions, you may just have admitted to rape. There is always a pause, of a few milliseconds between a conscious impulse and a physical act. I notice you didn't say "I pull out immediately", you just slow down. So in the interval between you noticing the problem and slowing down, while still penetrating the poor potential rape victim, you have your dick in a woman who, as far as you know, may not be consenting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.That thought doesn't comport very well with the spirit of debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.First, that's an unreasonable measure. Not if freezing up is a real thing. If it's a real thing and a person can get a rape conviction for having sex that had every appearance of being consensual, then my mechanism or one like it is the only way to prevent massive injustice. I think probably 95% of women don't really freeze up if they're out of their teens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.I'm cool with very strictly regulating the sex lives of people who rape knowingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.And both should also be able to take a look at their partner. Only if her face isn't frozen. If it's frozen, it won't give you much information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:08 PM |
| 8 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.How do you know you can't tell? A lot of people are asserting that it's really easy to tell when a person is freezing up. I think we need a citation for that claim now. Nobody has ever frozen up with me, so I don't know what it looks like. When you are having sex with a woman, and she suddenly decides to withdraw consent silently, what do you normally do? I'm glad it's never happened to me but luckily I can talk to people on reddit who have lots of experience of their lovers freezing up. Thank y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.The plural of anecdote is not data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Second question first: I guess in the hypothetical you give, the man goes to jail for statutory rape and the woman is placed in a secure location to protect her and the men around her. First question: I would need to see good hard science on how easy or otherwise it is to recognize a woman freezing up before attempting an answer to that question. If it's scientifically proven to be very easy to identify, there might be a case to be made for such a law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 04:00 PM |
| 11 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Consent can be withdrawn at any time. Even if you check in every minute, that's still potentially up to a minute of rape after she withdraws consent and waits for him to ask again because she's frozen and can't speak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:53 PM |
| 6 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.incredibly sexually inexperienced No law against that. you never actually wanted to bring your partner any kind of sexual satisfaction to begin with. That neither. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:51 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Should women be allowed to have sex with blind men if that was the law? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.You imply that the woman doesn't believe that a threat of violence has been implied. No I don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:50 PM |
| 7 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.Why is it up to her? Because sex is a collaborative act in which both parties are responsible for playing their roles and part of that is being able to indicate to your partner that you require an immediate end to the sex. If you can't play your role, you're just not ready to have sex. Do you accept that a fully physically matured girl of 12 still can't have sex because, if she's a normal person, her brain just plain isn't ready. It's not a question of it being "up to" one of the two partners: i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:49 PM |
| 5 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.The baseball bat is very clear, explicit piece of informal sign language meaning "I am not seeking your consent". Almost everyone freezes when presented with a clear credible threat of overwhelming, irresistible violence. The interesting kind of freezing up is the type where no threat of violence, overt or implied, is made. Obviously any overt threat of violence made before the person freezes up invalidates any claim of "I didn't know she wasn't into it". You know that, and that is why, by your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If "freezing up" is real, women shouldn't be able to legally consent unless a psychologist will certify that she won't freeze up and lose the ability to say "no" when appropriate.That's disanalogous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:26 PM |
| 2 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...Yet children are still being abducted and kidnapped everyday without screaming no Because more than 90% of kidnappings are committed by the child's biological parent. Of course they don't scream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:25 PM |
| 1 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...As someone who values my freedom but remembers the feeling of freezing up when I was much younger, the sensible option is that if you don't say no then you don't have a right to cry rape The sensible option is to never leave the house without an armed chaperone, if you or anyone isn't able to say "no" whenever required. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:23 PM |
| 2 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...This isn't about drinking, because every female friend I have ever known was 100% capable of saying "no", regardless of how many Bellinis she'd had. It's about childish adults who stay silent when they need to be saying no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:21 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.Well, you can always just not have sex! Women who aren't interested in sex have zero problems staying out of sexual situations. The only way they have sex is if a predatory rapist invades their home. It happens, but it's rare. Women who suffer from this ailment of being unable to indicate non-consent should have a special hat or face tattoo that signals to all people "I am legally incapable of giving sexual consent, so if you are inside me, you're definitely committing rape" It would solve the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 03:07 PM |
| 2 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...Well it's impossible to have a full understanding of any topic, however we can draw some definite conclusions. First conclusion: the woman must have her legal ability to consent to sex revoked. A woman who cannot be trusted not to freeze up is a hazard to society, and essentially a child for all sexual purposes. Ergo, anyone who has sex with her is a rapist by default, even if she shouts "I consent!" throughout the event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 02:08 PM |
| 6 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.Either it's on video or it's got the same status as Bigfoot and the Blair witch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 02:08 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.Are you seriously claiming an individual's self-reporting is acceptable science? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:54 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.If there's no intent to rape, I don't care what the legal code says. The Nazi legal code said it was wrong to hide Ann Frank to try to save her from the death camps. If legal codes do not recognize justice, they carry no moral weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:53 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.This is huge: if the alleged TI happens after the sexual assault has commenced and the rapist has already made clear he disregards her consent, then it's irrelevant to the legal debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:51 PM |
| 6 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.because opportunistic predators make up more of the population than any of us want to know It's more like, "really dumb doormat humans who don't have the basic good sense to report a violent crime to the authorities when it happens make up more of the population than any of us want to know". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:48 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.All we are saying is that it can be rape even if she doesn't manage to fight back. Not if the man honestly believes she's into it, and she's doing nothing to give him any other ideas. If you fail to express any lack of consent, it's hard to blame the guy for not responding appropriately to a problem unless he's made aware of it. Intent matters. It's never rape if there's no intent to rape. Regardless of what any legal code might say. Honor killing isn't honorable and any man who is called a rapi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:23 PM |
| 7 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...Who said he isn't treated as an adult? We're talking about the woman's actions without reference to the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:05 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.Lots of animals can fly, and there are millions of anecdotes of people flying, so by that standard of proof, people can fly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 12:04 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The redpill needs to study common medical issues before pretending to be an authority on human sexual instinct.Is tonic immobility something that has been proven to exist under laboratory conditions, or is it academic SJW folk wisdom? How do you disprove the hypothesis that tonic immobility is just another invention of SJW academia, like rape culture? Why should anyone with an awareness of the SJW tendency to invent entities out of thin air and endow them with the status of real things just assume that tonic immobility is real without video proof? If you want to criticize TRP's shitty scientific standard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 09:09 AM |
| 3 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...Do we blame the girl (of course not) for freezing up and not expressing that she wasn't consenting? If she is an adult and wants to be treated as such, yes we do hold her as primarily responsible for her decisions and omissions. That's what being an adult is. If you are not held responsible for what you do, you are a child or a pet, not an agent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 08:51 AM |
| 2 | The real question: if women "freeze up" in fear of unwanted sex, arent comfortable saying no, or are too afraid to then...The behavior is universal Proof of this? If anyone claims that any human behavior is common, let alone universal, I need video evidence as the bare minimum. Otherwise, it has the same scientific status as astral projection and telepathy: a thing that has been reported but not verified by any objective means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 08:47 AM |
| 1 | Q 4 Men: Is this what you believe women's lives are like?I think they'd get a lot further if they looked at the world as 'shitty people vs not shitty people' instead of 'men vs women' Evolution is not kind to men who see women like that: they don't reproduce as often as men who are just obsessed with fucking women. I wonder why that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 08:35 AM |
| 2 | Q 4 Men: Is this what you believe women's lives are like?That's very photosynthesis of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 08:28 AM |
| 5 | Q 4 Men: Is this what you believe women's lives are like?He is right about the obviously arbitrary nature of decision making over at Mod Tower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/17 05:25 PM |
| 19 | Q 4 Men: Is this what you believe women's lives are like?Feminists say that privilege is invisible to those who benefit from it. If they're right about that, isn't it possible that you're simply unable to see the privileges you enjoy? Alternatively, feminists might just be mendacious fools. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/17 05:24 PM |
| 5 | Serious question for discussion: Please explain to me why women cannot simply say "NO, STOP DOING THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS" and then remove themselves from the area, when faced with unwanted sexual behaviorApparently in Europe, Germany if I recall correctly, girls are taught to give a firm "nein!" with eye contact, as soon as they are out of Kindergarten. As far as I know, it works. German women can be trusted to give a clear "no" whenever sex is offered and she doesn't wish to partake. I guess we can't do that in the USA for reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/17 05:16 PM |
| 4 | Consent guide from the National Sexual Violence Resource Center states consent can only be obtained by asking.If the pamphlet influences a person who later becomes a judge, it effectively is the law in that court. If an absolute majority of judges agree with it, it might become the law of the land. It's an indication of how thought is evolving within establishment circles. Definitely not a good sign. We don't now how bad it really is yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Consent guide from the National Sexual Violence Resource Center states consent can only be obtained by asking.Don't assume that all feminists have shitty sex lives. Some of the people who wrote this garbage have excellent sex lives, in which they utterly ignore all the advice they wrote, and just do what feels good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Consent guide from the National Sexual Violence Resource Center states consent can only be obtained by asking.that you rape your wife or are required to constantly ask for consent, you're both crazy and should p Correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Consent guide from the National Sexual Violence Resource Center states consent can only be obtained by asking.A lot of people are naturally lacking in sexual spontaneity. A lot of other people are extremely spontaneous. You appear to be trying to impose you and your husband's sexual practices on the rest of the population. Many people find it to be a very big deal when a particular sexual subculture says "Have sex the way we do or go to the gulag." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?The fact is, you see a lot more women programmers complaining in the press about how other people are holding her back because of her vagina than you see women saying "here's how I wrote the app that solved all my customers' problems, destroyed all the competition and made me an overnight billionaire". Maybe there's a reason the people with billion dollar software ideas turned into reality by the application of tremendous knowledge obtained through gargantuan effort are overwhelmingly male, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 03:53 PM |
| 7 | If men were to create a perfect male, then woman created their perfect male. How would they differ?The man would be incapable of arousal or even sexual interest except for his significant other. The man would derive tremendous satisfaction from listening to his significant other talk about her disagreements with her co-workers until she collapses from hunger because she forgot to eat. Her conversation will interest him more than all the professional sports and automobiles on the planet. His semen will taste like white wine or chocolate, depending on her mood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 03:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.Obesity and having kids are your examples and neither hold up. Women require fewer daily calories, hence it only takes a few extra daily calories to get fat. Men need to eat a vastly larger volume of food to achieve the same body fat percentage. Artificial insemination is only available to women with sufficient money to pay for it. Therefore, if a woman is pregnant with a child she can't afford, that means a man was at least as irresponsible as her. The general level of irresponsibility you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.nah, anti-male viewpoints come from the fact that testosterone makes us naturally more violent than women. You said "us"'. Can you give me some examples from your life where your maleness put women at risk of testosterone fuelled violence, committed by you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.How so? How are women more at risk by standing around random men? My whole point is that only a small minority of men are the kind you need to be careful around. Equally, only a minority of black people engage in violent crime. It appears to me that the analogy is accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Question: Can You Tell When Another Woman Is With a Man for Money or Love?Because the conscious mind, the only part of the mind capable of lying, is only a very small part of the brain. If all of the unconscious mind doesn't love the guy, the conscious mind will not be able to sustain the illusion very long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?How is the modern climate representative of base biological nature if in the past the opposite kinds of laws and social norms arose that didn't favor women and favored men instead? Those social norms favoring men, back in the time of Patriarchy, were repugnant to our essential human instinct to favor women and girls, just like they are today. However, back in 1717, we didn't have modern technology and robots to do 95% of the difficult, unpleasant work. Patriarchal laws and customs were required … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?Is it possible that "men are wonderful effect" is operating right now, with judges and juries routinely siding with male abusers due to the patriarchy? No, because accurate records of modern jurisprudence exist. Ancient jurisprudence is mostly guesswork. Your comparison is invalid. The fact that those modern laws exist tells us one thing for sure: rulers of the modern world perceive that male abusers are believed too readily. Many a true word is spoken in jest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?How representative is he, do you think? Your argument about the modern climate is senseless. How about you redraft and try it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?patriarchial cultures that codified stuff like "believe women witnesses less" into law Why do you think those patriarchial cultures were forced to codify those laws in the first place? Isn't it possible the "women are wonderful" effect was operating back then, with judges and juries routinely siding with dishonest female witnesses? Neither of us can ever know for sure. The fact that those codes ever existed tells us one thing for sure: rulers of the ancient world perceived that female witnesses … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?Gays don't favor women Name a prominent gay political activist who's not also a feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 04:01 PM |
| 6 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?Women are increasingly becoming financially independent No they are not. They are as financially dependent as ever. They're just dependent on different entities. Right now, corporations are operating a massive welfare and affirmative action system to give support to middle class Asian and Caucasian women who, if they had to work as hard as their male colleagues, would immediately quit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?The reason it is high status and lucrative is the skills needed are very much harder to master than the skills needed for the jobs women are traditionally interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 02:33 PM |
| 4 | Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about?All human beings have a cognitive bias that causes us to reliably favor the woman in any situation where a woman and a man are adversaries. So any time the obvious truth is spoken, as in your OP, the bias works overtime to erase the truth. The human mind favors women and believes female liars because women are essential to the survival of the species in ways men are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 02:31 PM |
| 10 | PSA: Affirmative consent doesn't work like the manosphere claims.I'm referring here to the movement to jail innocent men on false rape accusations which is underway across the west, not only in the USA. In many jurisdictions, the innocent men have no legal right to a jury trial, and are at the mercy of the ideology and whims and ambition of individual judges. You're ignoring the meaningful part of these laws: the reduction of the burden of proof to allow biased judges to throw innocent men in jail. Before these laws, innocent men were protected from ideologic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Millennials and Boobs: They Just Don't Like ThemFinally, something the millies are doing that I'm 100% on side with. My generation's obsession with rubber tits that are as anatomically correct as a goddamn Lego man was a fucking travesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 12:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.Part of this anti-male social attitude is just based on the fact that there are more shitty men all around. I don't think it's immoral for women to be cautious of males, it's just basic risk minimization. That same attitude would, with equal logic, apply to black people, if it were applied. Do you stand by the argument that it's not immoral to advise people to be extra vigilant around black people, as it also meets the identical criteria to say "it's just basic risk minimization"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 12:36 PM |
| 5 | Q4RP: How many of you think that it's hypocritical/ironic if a feminist woman likes rough sex?Boy, you're gonna love Andrea Dworkin. somebody oughta | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 07:03 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: How many of you think that it's hypocritical/ironic if a feminist woman likes rough sex?Old enough to know not to answer, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 07:01 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: How many of you think that it's hypocritical/ironic if a feminist woman likes rough sex?Are you using the McKinnon or Nussbaum conception of objectification? Either way, you're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 04:09 PM |
| 38 | Q4RP: How many of you think that it's hypocritical/ironic if a feminist woman likes rough sex?Feminists used to be universally hardline anti-BDSM as well as hardline anti-porn. So for anyone who remembers those days, it's certainly amusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 04:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.No, I was very clear that it's possible to have an extremely high IQ but very bad impulse control. Hence the crime lord example. Most crime lords could live a life of ease by transitioning out of crime once they've amassed wealth, but they don't have the self-control to do it, they're addicted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 12:58 PM |
| 1 | I posted a question in /r/mensrights I would love those of you who support financial abortion to answer.I'll just respond to this one: How do you respond to the argument "This gives the man an immense amount of control over the woman's life?" I mean he can coerce her a lot. I don't see how financial abortion as I understand it, produces more coercion than the status quo. The only real change in power after FA is that women will now have an incentive to obtain a willing sperm donor. The basic issue of reproductive freedom is that when a woman exercises her freedom to create new members of the popul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?What are you hoping to achieve with this exchange? Just trying to gain some understanding about how people end up reaching such conclusions. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?You seem to understand that making a movie is expensive, and most movies fail to break even. You seem to understand that the market among movie-goers for feminist-leaning content is limited, and has been saturated. Consumers are ready for another kind of story now. Why let that frustrate you? Film is like Opera: it must adapt its product to suit the whims of its patrons. And most patrons like going to movies because they don't have to think about politics for two hours. Which makes it difficult … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Would men be happier or less happy if they took drugs that lowered their sex drives? How would women feel about men's sex drive being lower?Why do you think it's a good idea to ask posters to self-censor because his rule-compliant posts upset some people who can't accept that some people don't share their views? Some people complained about some posts, you inspected the posts and discovered the complaints were bullshit. Why was that not the end of the story? Why did you come here to give him a hard time if he's posting within the rules? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?It's not about what you want, it's about what women choose to see in theaters. If the stuff you like was interesting to women, Hollywood would make a bunch of it. But it is repellent to women so they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 06:02 PM |
| 0 | Would men be happier or less happy if they took drugs that lowered their sex drives? How would women feel about men's sex drive being lower?You really need to learn to ignore the whiners. It's unacceptable that their lack of resilience should become a resilient person's problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 05:21 PM |
| 8 | Q4ALL Do women prefer men capable of Cheating?I feel like I can guess what is meant, yet I still desire a detailed definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?Yes, there have been many films made by women that I've greatly enjoyed. I would like to see more. If these movies are good, why wouldn't their owners re-release them? If women go to see these movies in large numbers, Hollywood will take notice and try hard to repeat the success. If women don't flock to see the movie, is it really economically viable to make the film? And is Hollywood really not doing its job properly if it chooses not to burn money making turkeys nobody will see? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?You do know that there is no law preventing feminist film fans pooling their money then hiring the best crew you can get. If the movie you make tests well with female audiences, you will find eager distributors. You don't need a man's permission to make anything. Feminists have money, they have a compliant press that will give five star reviews to any piece of shit (hello Ghostbusters 2016) you put onscreen, if it has some vaguely feminist message, and the second thing, while advantageous, isn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?So has there ever been a film made for women that meets your approval, apart from Wonder Woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?You're angry because Hollywood doesn't make the type of movie that's never been made before? They're trying not to go broke! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?And it's frustrating to see no progress being made Then the solution is to persuade your fellow women to buy tickets to the kind of movies you want to see. If hundreds of millions of women go to see movies about cockroaches knitting pussy hats, Hollywood will respond by making 50 such movies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.I'm basing the "should" on what is the optimal response to a threat situation. These things are not infinitely variable. If you are under threat, flight is definitely a superior response compared to, say, composing a poem. So given the choice, I am definitely right to say you should flee rather than engage in poetry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.If you're aware of the disgust, it means the fear is less strong than it could be. If you're unaware of the disgust, what purpose does it serve? In situations of peril, it's best to have one dominant emotion, and nausea is not helpful for flight or fighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?Women are buying tickets to these movies when they're available. No, they're not. Because when Hollywood sees a certain formula sells tickets, they obsessively make more and more movies based on the same formula until the audience is sick of it. If Hollywood isn't making those kinds of movie, it is for only one reason: people aren't buying tickets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.If somebody is threatening to penetrate you without your consent, the optimal emotional response is adrenalin-fuelled fear, adding speed to your escape or strength to your resistance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 04:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.But it would not be beneficial for you to feel disgust rather than fear for a snake, or bear, or any other immediate physical threat. Disgust doesn't fill you with adrenalin the way fear does, and it doesn't provoke an immediate flight response, so it's a sub-optimal response to a potential attacker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 03:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.A 14 year old girl walking home and seeing a man of many leer at her and approach her? So you're saying she's allowed to fear for her safety and feel uncomfortable but God forbid the thought crosses her mind of that man trapping her in the corner and having his way with her... she's not allowed to feel any disgust? "Not allowed"? Everyone is allowed to feel disgusted by anything. Disgusted by rainbows? That's totally allowed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 03:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: most anti-male viewpoints spring from the fact that men are more variable than women and therefore low-quality men outnumber low-quality women.And yes actually the sight of many bugs and creepy crawlers disgusts me and makes my skin crawl. Because insects are an excellent disease vector. Feeling disgust at bugs serves a beneficial evolutionary purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 03:50 PM |
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