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Since bluepill advocates seem to be fixated on Okcupid's blog post on attractiveness and messaging rates, a more disciplined look at the content is well overdue. What the fuck... it is always TRPER incels who raise that shit, all the blue pillers I've seen talk about it didn't raise the post as an issue and when it was raised by someone else said "yeah there's problems with treating that as sensible research and there's problems with the way you are interpreting it" I have no idea what the linke…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:30 PM
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Because usually you tell your spouse that you are going to therapy and they are fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:43 PM
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Because they always think the ones that don't respect them are on the verge of leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:37 AM
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Well that makes sense, men in general aren't funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:27 AM
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They love the ones that don't respect them most of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:22 AM
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If you're a TRP leaning guy, well you guys say you don't find women funny at all so why would anyone give a frog's fat arse that you went to the TBP subreddit (which is heavily populated by women) and said it wasn't funny? Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:20 AM
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Bans are part of how a subreddit prevent the general order and tone of the place from drifting from the vision the mods have of the place... /r/askfeminists without the bans would be a totally different subreddit. No there is no place where you can be annoying and still get the same results as if annoyingness was banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:38 AM
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People tend to feel more strongly about a person who is provocative. The ones who don't like it walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 01:35 PM
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I'm a straight male, but I want to make an argument that DJT is extremely sexy. I know you want him, just admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 01:16 PM
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Yep. Just going on looks, if all else (sanity, wealth, status etc) about him was average, then with some effort he should be able to get a LTR with a very average 25 year old woman who has one major flaw. Fat, stupid, crazy, extreme butterface, old before her time, addicted, extreme spendthrift, infected with HIV etc... one major flaw. But obviously he was crazy as a cut snake too so that would mean an otherwise average 25 year old woman with at least (depending on if he had even more flaws than…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 10:25 AM
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He's kind of average looking for a 40 year old, ugly-ish for a 25 year old. We'll keep seeing these incidents (and not just about sexual issues) because apparently mass murder is one of the things thwarted dudes do when thwarted, but rest assured, a mass murderer who was not given the opportunity to reproduce is not a sign that the system of mate selection has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:31 AM
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People who "gamify" being "cheap" - finding cool ways to save money, in my experience are mostly men Based upon that statement I think that your experience of real life in general is mostly men. Seriously, the women in sitcoms who are all the time hiding the price of their latest shoe purchase are not typical. One thing you've also got to be careful of is confusing "is in charge of all the consumer expenditure for a large household therefore spends a lot of money" with "is a spendthrift" Someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:52 AM
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In my opinion, one of the boundaries where lying to get consent becomes rape must clearly be at the point where no reasonable law-abiding member of society would consent if they knew the truth and the deceiver tells clearcut lies to hide the truth. For example, if there is a degree of consanguinity between two people that would mean sex between them is legally incest, and the person who is seeking sex hides that fact even under direct questioning about their background.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:07 PM
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An incel's penis may be his entire world but it is not the entire world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:11 AM
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Oh ffs. Is this some weirdass projection onto broader society of the incel obsession with how no-one wants to touch their dicks? Normal men and women still see plenty of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:16 AM
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Because if I and my daughters don't get respect there is a fair chance I will encourage every woman in the village to not only mock you, but also encourage her friends and family and man to mock you. Relentlessly. Incessantly. Until you want to die. And you will want to die, oh yes you will. And if that doesn't work, anyone who offers you any support will be added to the list of people getting the treatment. Respect women at least to the extent of shutting your cakehole and going about your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:11 PM
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Yes. They do less physical activity all through their boyhood and then into their adult years, a lot of them avoid competitive situations altogether, and just in general we infantalise young adults more than ever before and that doesn't help either because it discourages them from taking any form of initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:26 AM
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Yeah we sell a lot of beef to China. Most beef here is raised free range with low stocking rates and not a lot of grain supplementation, makes for a very beefy flavor with not a lot of fat marbelling... the US seems to think that's bad but China got no problems with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:16 AM
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They are pushing hard for energy self sufficiency right now, including increasing effort put into developing renewables. Energy self sufficiency rather tends to be a prerequisite for successful world domination. WW2 would have been completely different if the Axis powers had a bit more easily mined oil and didn't have to start doing things like distilling entire pine forests to make substitutes. Once they've got that I guess they'll find a way to break the role of the use of the US dollar has as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 05:42 AM
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Yup. Men tend to punish externally, women tend to punish internally. The upshot is that women who are the walking wounded get to stay free and not go to prison for having punched in the face their problems or something that symbolizes their problems. My gender and pill are in my flair, I'm middle aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 12:38 AM
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Pffft. In my day we called it "growing up" and it applied to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 10:24 PM
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Basically you have to get out of woman's husband/boyfriend potential box and into a her fuck only box. That box does not exist for most women most of the time. You will not only need to maximize SMV and minimize RMV, you will also need to spend a lot of time meeting large numbers of women under the conditions that women who who want casual sex seek out when looking for casual sex. Hence the fuckboi is born. If that's the life you want then go right ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:28 AM
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IKR? Remember that picture of a girl in a bikini compared to a gym bro, and the caption for her was something like "just don't eat like an elephant".... but any woman who saw the pic was "like dude, it takes work to look like that, she diets but with good food so her skin stays nice, she works out at least a bit, she gets her hair done somewhere spendy for those effortless looking highlights, she gets her nails done, that bikini probably took three hours to shop for, she tans, she works out, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:53 PM
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You'd be amazed how easy it is to satisfy the average man, he just wants to put his dick in your vagina basically and touch your tits a bit. If you're into it and enjoying yourself and doing other shit, that's great, a huge bonus, but it's mainly about the dick in that vagina, that's it. That may be hard for women to comprehend, but that is how most men think about sex. You'll be amazed at how many guy friends I've known who still whine and complain about having received starfish sex from some g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:41 PM
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Since the latter is unlikely to happen for biological reasons, then the only recourse is to reverse the feminization of schooling and society in general in how we approach raising young boys. Or the young boys that aren't masculine could just accept it is a personal issue and go about dealing with their personal issue by committing to coping, changing or learning how to remove themselves from the SMP, just as women who aren't feminine have to do. Just becomes some individuals have a problem does…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:32 PM
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This is where the male hamster is at play. You want to physically touch a woman's body. But lemme guess... starfish sex is not really what you're after either and if you had a woman who offered that you'd be whining and asking for more participation from her? If offered a vat-grown warm female corpse you'd balk? This is a thought/behavioral pattern common among toddlers and also among men when they talk about their desire for sex and relationship. I call it "I only want" and I describe it here h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:26 PM
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Why do you not understand the inherent disconnect involved in attempting to cajole, whine and hassle women into normalising and feeling sorry for men who refuse to fix themselves, all the time saying that society fails men by not encouraging them to be masculine? Do you really want me to give you what you say you want? OK. Men are a poor helpless weak things who never could have avoided being sexual failures. Girls laugh at them repeatedly when they screw up social situations and make them feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:12 PM
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And as long as you look good, they don't give a damn what your job is or how smart you are or your personality, it's just your vagina they're after to a large degree, at least initially. They've got hands, if all they want is physical sensation they can use their hands. Generally they want all that emotional validation shit, they want it real bad, but lie to themselves too much to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:35 PM
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And the inability of women in general to empathize with men is a part of the problem here too. Empathy is not what you need. You need to be told life is hard and you work hard or you fail, and maybe even if you work hard you still fail. I don't know if you're familiar with this story, but a woman tried to literally become a man by dressing and acting like one for 18 months, and she ended up being an emotional and psychological wreck because of her experiences. At the end she realized that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:29 PM
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When you meet a new friend it isn't an antagonistic fitness test to see if this person is worthy of friendship, but that natural determination is often reached regardless whether the person is engaging or not. In elementary school it isn't. Every year thereafter, it becomes more so. As an adult you don't just get to be friends with the people you want to be friends with, that you mesh easily with. There's sizing up, there's barriers. A person only has so many friends, adults who have a lot to of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:26 PM
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Yes but women never have to deal with shit tests during courtship. All the fucking time women deal with shit in dating. Just different shit. The guy who tells all his friends what they did last night and then she has to work out whether she sticks around to be laughed at or not... that's a test. Make-up itself is sort of a lie basically, you paint your face to make yourself look nearly perfect, and he never sees the real you until much later, if you ever get that far at all. If you can't tell th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:22 PM
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From your perspective there is nothing for men to complain about at all. From my perspective, the things you feel you need to complain about are not insurmountable barriers and problems of similar levels of difficulty are regularly overcome by both men and women who benefit greatly in more areas than just romance from having taken the effort to overcome these barriers. If an adult is shy, if they can't deal productively with other adults who test them, it is a fucking problem to them as an adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 09:15 PM
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The only time a woman ever has to sell herself to a man is when she's already ready for marriage and he's not quite sure or she's applying for a job. Or for any of the lesser levels of commitment. Or to move in together. Or to get co-operation on any of a thousand different things. We are constantly tested in life whereas women get sort of a free ride for the most part. Correction, you just get a slightly different set of tests. So there is a lot of pent up aggressive resentment from men who str…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:47 PM
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Obviously it is a problem for any man who wishes to pass a test and not receive a failing grade I've always thought that the guys who obsess most about this must have been the Rich Good Boys at school, raised in privilege and with at least a moderate amount of intelligence, and have rarely received a fail grade. Seriously, a fail grade at one test is not a calamity. You can receive a fail grade for reasons that have nothing to do with whether or not you'll ultimately be able to meet your general…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:33 PM
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Why don’t some women understand that a guy isn’t obligated to stay and wait? Same way some guys don't understand that a woman don't gotta keep having sex with them once she's started having sex with them. People just get attached to situations and patterns, think that what once was will continue. Why don’t some guys just move on, and find another girl? Because everyone is out for themselves not intent on being a good member of a collective bargaining cluster, and sometimes sticking round a few m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:24 PM
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to see if you are a decent potential mate worthy of further investment of time and opportunity cost. And this is a problem why? Seems to me more like a useful feature rather than a flaw in the process. Would you rather that mates were assigned randomly? Do you think this would lead to greater happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:12 PM
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If this happens I have never noticed it. That's because you've never been trying to sell yourself to men as much as you sell yourself to women. Questions or pointed statements that are specifically designed to put you on the spot, and therefore test how you react. I have never seen a man do this during the courtship phase. But women do it frequently. You've never seen a man ask a woman an overly sexual question that left her flustered and not knowing where to put herself, whether to feel excited…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:10 PM
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That's what meeting anyone new is like, it is what chatting to a set of new same-sex people you've just met at a party is like. There's banter and provocative questions and sizing each other up. You just notice it more from prospective sexual partners because you want more from prospective sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:51 PM
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But I'm more interested in the shit testing that goes on during cold or semi-warm approaches and in the early stages of getting to know someone. Like giving out signs they want you to just fuck off? That would be because they want you to just fuck off, it isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:46 PM
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The amount of what one might call... not exactly directed... but I guess "pointed" testing that happens is pretty small and men do it as much as women. People just have friction between them when they get together y'know, and that's what most annoyance should be attributed to. I mean seriously, you're going to be annoyed, thwarted, frustrated and aggravated by a romantic partner just like you're going to face those things from a close friend or house mate. If someone is annoying the everloving s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:43 PM
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Technological change more like. DNA testing puts rapists away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:54 PM
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You're exhibiting a bit of fallacious thought process that I find is very common among men when women attempt to discuss things with them. You see, at no stage have I actually said that I personally want the changes I have described, indeed the very title of the post asks people to consider whether the changes would be good or bad. I have described two of the possibly positive side effects of such a change... and left it up to people to work out whether those positive side effects are enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:51 PM
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What would significant mean here? Similar to what is needed for a good erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:59 AM
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At the price of a considerable amount spent on law enforcement and the criminal justice system. I mean that doesn't come free, does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:53 PM
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Yes but the chickens don't seem to find it a problem so it isn't significant. You don't have roosters hanging out on reddit faffing on about how the hens that have been raped are damaged goods and couldn't possibly be worth protecting from hawks, and you don't have hens complaining to each other that since the rape they can barely leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:03 PM
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Yes, this is something I thought and was waiting to see if anyone else concluded. There would be no sex that is done purely because the woman would prefer the man stay sweet enough for an entirely convenient LTR or marriage to continue or because the guy is just too much of a grumpy asshole if no sex happens. There would be no "well I want kids so he'll have to do" sex. There would be no "let him finish then I go back to sleep" sex. I suppose "significant" is a bit vague as descriptors go. We're…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 10:59 PM
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And still, there are many different people all making the same decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 01:25 PM
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After 48 years living on this earth and observing, it is my conclusion that I don't think men most men will be happy whatever they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 01:24 PM
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Oh well, TRP wants a world where not only are 80% of men disappointed, but they work damn hard for their disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 11:06 AM
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There are some as who manage to do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 11:04 AM
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Did you fail to notice my flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 05:34 AM
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Setting realistic goals is giving up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:28 AM
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Nope, just pointing out to you that you are giving advice that if all men took it, would fail 80% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:23 AM
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All of them can succeed at doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 03:45 AM
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Sure they can. They can pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 01:15 AM
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This seems simplistic, though...there are many innocuous reasons why someone gets thrown back into the pool. There are very few innocuous reasons why someone gets thrown back in over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 01:13 AM
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I don't get how you don't get it. I have made it as simple as possible. So you're just going to have to not get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 10:15 PM
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I thought I was being abundantly clear. What part do you have trouble understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 09:37 PM
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I think it’s pretty normal for women to wait until a second or third date to have sex. I’ve never had sex with someone the same day I met them. I’ve had sex on a first date, but it was with guys I knew already, guys I was friends with first or at least guys from a social scene I was part of. This. I had PIV sex with a guy on the first date. I'd known him for 6 years. A guy I had only seen at weekly social events for a few months before dating him? Several months of dating and gradually working u…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 11:46 AM
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Dude, you're asking me to in a reddit comment teach you a complicated communication skill that needs to be in large part acquired via observations and reflective thought upon those observations. We've gone from "tell me about lmr" to "put a huge amount of effort into bettering an internet stranger" and I'm not up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 10:35 AM
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Women always give a list of traits that they want in a man. A "nice" guy. No more "assholes." Men always give a list of traits that they want in a woman. A "nice" girl. No more "crazy." See how this works? The bad ones get thrown back into the pond which is why when you go to the pond it is full of bad. It's a classic TRP theme that women friendzone the non-assholes and get wet for the hot bad boys. The assholes (and crazy girls) get very good at being seductive because they have to do it over a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 09:28 AM
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No I can't be any more clear or explicit, a lot of how aggressive/assertive/direct/indirect something is has to be calculated on the spot, relative to how she is reacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 01:01 AM
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Y'know, when you're with a girl who has been giving out indicators of interest, stop thinking of delaying behavior as resistance, think of it as reservations, doubts, uncertainties that she is in the process of working through. You don't know what those reservations/doubts/uncertainties are, and she's not necessarily going to tell you because she maybe doesn't know you well enough yet to share those thoughts with you. "resistance" frames the situation in a spectacularly unhelpful way that makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 12:13 AM
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Sex for sex while a pair do not cohabit is is one thing. As soon as you add in cohabiting to a sexual relationship then you've got a totally different dynamic, the dynamic of a household, and households are sturdy only when there are large amounts of giving from both parties. But hey, if you don't like that then go have FWBs. Or have an LTR but maintain separate residences, maybe buy half a duplex each. Or get good at picking up chicks. No-one is trying to forcibly recruit you to the ranks of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:37 PM
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These are the requirements on both sides for a relationship to be a success. Be a good housemate, don't be an asshole, pull your weight, bring something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:09 PM
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On Reddit if you... However if women complain about how it is hard to find a guy... I haven't seen particularly much in the way of women on reddit complaining about this. Occasionally I've seen a "where the men at" post on geographically local subreddits... but they were hardly worded as complaints more as requests for info. Same goes vs when Asian men complain about how their options they are told they aren’t “entitled to Asian women. However if black women complain about Black men not wanting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 07:19 PM
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provide income so that you're better off with him than alone financially Both members of a couple should be attending to where the money is coming from. That means not getting sacked for misconduct, not quitting jobs on a whim, always discussing the household income as a couple and making sure to be willing to work. This doesn't always mean both members of the couple in paid employment but being willing to seek paid employment when it is the sensible thing is a bare minimum requirement to be a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 07:03 PM
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Yup. It is a large part of the dynamics that led up to me leaving my ex-husband in the nineties. If I'm with someone he has to offer and continue to offer me a deal that is, all things considered, over the course of years and excluding troubles that were committed to dealing with together as part of marriage (such as ill-health and disability, the vagaries of the economy, etc) better than being alone. Which isn't really that hard to do, because two adults working together offer a lot of advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 02:12 PM
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What is far more likely is that what your partner provides will fall below your floor price... the price at which being in a relationship at all offers less benefit than being alone, the price at which you just ain't selling any more. At which point it isn't about getting benefit or more benefit, it is about reducing loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 12:41 AM
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So i can admit to the immature part there are many things i need to learn about life howevee i dont immediatley think that should disqualify me from having sex, It doesn't disqualify you from having sex, I never said it did. All you need to have sex is a partner who agrees . However, it does make you a spectacularly poor choice to have casual sex with. One of the reasons casual sex has such a stigma above and beyond the workings of patriarchy to control women's use of their wombs is that it so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:44 PM
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All im saying is i find human interaction complicated and scary You're immature. This is immature behavior and human response. A mature human can interact. I'm not saying every human being wants committed sex but the precise reason you give for you yourself wanting casual sex is one of immaturity. Also look again how you are using the same form of argument... this is all I am saying, this is all I want, I only want... you are arguing for the next step on a path to occur because you need it. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:37 PM
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I don't think the sex and gender side of it is an issue. You tell a guest to bring something and they don't immediately tell you they can't but then they show up without it, they should at least act contrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:02 PM
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i recently had an argument on nice guy discussion saying most people especially men who just want casual sex instead of deep meaningful LTR are awful. A lot of men who say they just want casual sex really want more. There's a particular deceptive way of thinking that seems common in young men who aren't doing too well sexually. They "only" want... they only want you to stop and talk to them, they only want you to give them a chance and go on a date, they only want you to not fade them away witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 08:54 PM
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So I ask you ladies of PPD, why are older women so much more forward and direct with men they wanna hook up with compared to younger girls? They know what they are doing and can think a scenario through to the end quicker and more thoroughly. This leads to less time dealing with anxiety. Remember, women in general aren't worrying that they will be refused, they are worrying that they will be accepted and then treated appallingly badly. That they'll go off with a guy, have sex, fall asleep and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 02:20 PM
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If there's no wake then anything like trying to get laid is way out of line.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 05:08 AM
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She's willing to go six rounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 08:59 PM
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Police officers with drawn weapons. Extra points if you reach into your pocket for your phone without warning them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 08:54 PM
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Stop being idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 08:53 PM
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Just met? Call the cops 'cos both soliciting and procuring are illegal here. Someone I knew? Depends whether I like him. If I hate him I call the cops, if he's an old and dear friend I ask him if he's OK, if he needs to talk to a counselor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:14 PM
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Chatting anyone up at a funeral is way out of line with social standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:10 PM
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If after the engagement is already announced he came to me with an already drawn up pre-nup without any discussion before hand and was just expecting me to sign it? Hell no, if he's lucky I won't put the engagement ring back in its box before I fling it at his face. If, however, he says he wants to marry me and then after I say yes and before I get the chance to announce it he raises the underlying concerns that make him want a prenup, and I have a chance to have a good think about it, and I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 04:19 PM
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I don’t hear women telling other women to stop using their sexuality to gain things Trying to stop the sellers is a losing battle, the buyers just offer more until someone caves. Stop buying. or to stop dating clearly bad men. Are you kidding me? Young women are all the time discussing the sort of guys they and their friends date, looking for patterns, wondering what they should do different. Even false rape accusations get brushed aside Maybe it is just because I'm not in the USA and there's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 04:35 PM
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Sandow did physical culture more-or-less as a career, working out all the time. Even on the remote possibility the guy in that picture is natty, he's in a line of work that I'm fairly meh about because it tends to have low pay and an expiry date. Sooooo... no, not gonna bother trying to work out whether he's natty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 05:30 PM
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Why? Lack of immediate desire to get a dick up me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:20 PM
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There's too many men who complain too much, but that doesn't mean the average guy is complaining too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:39 PM
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they all look gay as usual because a man is choosing the pics Yup. I bet a guy took the pics too. All male gaze all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:46 PM
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Feel free to fuck him yourself, I'm giving him a miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:43 PM
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An extra $50,000 on top of $100,000 makes a huge difference to how many investments a household can afford to make. Even an extra $20,000 means a whole heap of difference to these things. I mean seriously, over five years this could mean the difference between doing OK with some savings and becoming a family with a good start on accumulating a decent investment portfolio. 60 hours a week plus housework can be kind of hard to maintain in the long term. If she's going to be switching to doing hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:40 AM
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Female. Too many tattoos, they are offputting, could be overcome if I knew him well and he was a sweet person. OK. I mean let's see him in jeans and t-shirt first, suits can be deceptive. A bit further gone down the roids path than I will ever feel comfy with. I'd probably be more willing to talk to 2 at a party, unless 3 was in clothes which hid the full extent of his muscular development in which case it would be even.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:20 AM
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Bro you just finished medical school you can do better than plain Jane. You got a job at xyz leave your chubby girlfriend behind. Where do you guys stand? Sure. You don't value what she is (supportive, good in the hard times, someone who sees value in you even when you aren't convenient) and people are happiest in relationships where they are valued. So she's probably better off without you and letting you use your increased provisioning capacity to go on to marry and make a couple of kids with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:11 AM
2

Are you going to make it illegal to financially support a partner who becomes unemployed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 11:38 PM
1

I believe that the best argument for school uniforms isn't that the personal stylistic development of girls and the ways in which they find belonging with other girls should be restricted, but rather the same argument as is made for not allowing kids to walk around the halls with loud-hailers yelling out their opinions while everyone tries to study. It isn't about whether or not someone has the right to express themselves, it is about just in general keeping the intensity and "loudness" of that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 12:31 AM
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Depends what one means by "negatively affected'. There's women who just won't have sex until they know a guy really well, and those women tend towards three things... chasteness, faithfulness and being repulsed by men who cat about a lot. If what you really want or later will begin to want is a woman like that then yeah you've damaged your prospects by racking up a count in the hundreds rather than just having had a handful of FWBs over the years. But y'know, they are your prospects to damage an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 05:31 AM
1

So contrary to usually expressed TRP opinion it is men who do not develop and improve with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 08:01 PM
1

I've had too many pet rats to disconnect enough to kill one unless it was being violent. A wild rat in the house carries parasites, shits and pisses everywhere, and chews things. Violent enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 04:30 PM
1

IDK about America but in Australia you can find the same sort of crap on Locanto. So whatever, this doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 07:57 PM
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In between the 19 hour shifts you mentioned in another reply, and the reading of russian novels you also mentioned? Something hinky here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 11:41 AM
1

Dude, self-medicate however you want to. Just take a little responsibility for the long term results.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 11:19 AM
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Oh yes they were all like Archie Bunker in the 1970s and he wasn't in the least designed to be a bit outrageous. And obviously there were no manly men in the 1940s, their wives were the only thing being beat on. What a lot of twaddle you write. If you don't want to do the things that are needed for large amounts of change quickly, just don't do them... and learn to live with your choice without complaining to the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 11:18 AM
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Really simple. There's only a certain number of hours in the day. Fill that time with one thing you won't be filling it with another. If you can stop filling your time with games you will act more like a 1970s man, if you give up TV too you'll act more like a 1940s man. Stop filling your days with sexual attraction that resolves and you'll feel more freefloating sexual attraction. Put the two together, stop filling your days with crap and stop wanking so damn much and it is a recipe for approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:18 AM
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Hearing voices no one else can hear isn't a good sign, even in the wizarding world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:11 AM
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Sure. Masturbation is an alternative outlet, and video games are a way of ignoring hour after hour passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:07 AM
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Is it important enough to you to make a sacrifice? Stop masturbating, stop self-medicating your boredom with games.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 02:02 AM
2

Women of PPD, would you prefer to date a man who owned a sex doll (one of the high-end, multi thousand dollar ones) or a man who visited sex workers once a month up until meeting you? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:20 AM
2

Dude, you are not your games machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:19 AM
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Yup. I think maybe the underlying thinking is that because fire can get away from control so easy there's a a seriousness about it, that destructive use of fire is only one step away from being a crime against the community. Hence in many parts of the world arson and even accidental fires get their very own laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:37 AM
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Ah, the crazy vindictive girlfriend trope that tends to be used when writers want to add a little frisson of violence to a scene without the audience feeling anyone is seriously in danger. Toxic femininity, but where there is that there's usually toxic masculinity supporting it. Look for the thread of toxic masculinity in it that mirrors the thread of toxic femininity... we don't feel he can be in danger like we would feel a woman is in danger because he's a man and can Take Care of Himself. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:13 PM
2

I prefer "Bust your windows" https://youtu.be/mOzdfaEPaR0 because it is so easy to tango angrily to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:02 PM
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Have not fled country to avoid child support because have not been idiot enough to make children I do not wish to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:03 PM
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No sweety. You just need a man, and it doesn't need to be him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:50 PM
2

You aren't in love with him you're just hormonal. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:50 PM
2

Well that would depend why I asked him what he was thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 11:22 AM
1

You are saying I changed because how I looked and what I did changed. It is absolutely OK to base your definition of an individual around what he/she does, but please do not assume that others may use the same definition. The definition of the self, to me, is more than what we do. What we do =/= who we are. Pffft. If you comprehensively change most of your habits that have a component of self control/work/reward/deferral of pleasure to them, then you've fucking well changed some of the foundatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:57 PM
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As far as I am concerned, I feel like EXACTLY the same person as before, A person's feelings about themself aren't always to be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:34 AM
1

So you got bullied at school. Whatever. It happens. Both boys and girls bully, both boys and girls get bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:33 AM
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How you were treated changed because you changed. This is reality. All your current friends? Will dump you soon enough if you become a meth addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:32 AM
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Just finding that many non-ambulatory people would be something of a task.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:39 AM
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I'd say it is more of an accomplishment than jacking it to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:25 AM
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But see, any medical school in the US has an extraordinarily low acceptance rate, the most being about 7% of all applicants are accepted. Do you somehow think obese women just lay their with their legs open 24/7 and let anyone fuck them? Obese women have the same sexual priorities as non-obese women. That means a similar set of desires for casual sex occasionally and relationship sex more frequently... it means that obese woman sex have limitations on availability. A similar set of desires for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:17 AM
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So you're complaining that fourteen year old girls weren't DTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 01:36 AM
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. To break it down further, love, to me, is about unconditional support for one another. So back then, looking realistically at how you were and how much evidence you showed of being able to support yourself, how supportive would it have been reasonable for the average woman to assess you as?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 01:34 AM
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You've got to realise there were things wrong with you back then that weren't just superficial. You had uncontrolled eating. You didn't exercise. You had limited interests. Jacking it all day to porn would have meant you had penile insensitivity due to your death grip and may even have had strange sexual obsessions. You were a slobby mess who didn't keep your surroundings clean. You didn't even have good hygiene. You were a teenager. These were REAL issues of quality, not superficial complaints.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 01:32 AM
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also, physical late bloomer men still look like fetuses at 22. many white and asian men dont look masculine til 28-32 This. Which would maybe be y'know do-able if they had the sense to package themselves in a sort of bishounen way or kouros or any of the other archetypes of the beautiful boy. But they generally don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:07 PM
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Why do you attribute this all to women, and not in the least to those men having got their act together just a little better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:37 PM
1

Will we ever reach a collective decision about new social contracts? We never have in the past, there has always been dissent and deviance from the norm, why should we now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 11:14 PM
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and sad for the women he’ll never give a chance to... Nope, they dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 11:10 PM
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Hurts to be rejected by one's fall back option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 11:10 PM
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And your reply is exactly what I'd expect from a low value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 11:08 PM
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Unattractive guys aren't particularly attracted to fat girls and their natural thoughts are "if she just lost thirty pounds and became just a bit chubby I'd have her" but the fat girls are en masse not doing this. It is a reminder to the unattractive guy that it isn't the world and women that is going to change to meet the needs of a guy like him, he needs to change or he gets nothing. Quite literally, in the short term a donut is more fun than him and in the long term a regularly replaced vibra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:41 AM
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If she cared about pleasing the sort of guys she'd have access to skinny, she'd diet. She doesn't care. So it is a constant reminder to low value guys that they are less attractive than donuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:05 AM
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I don't regard abortion(be it by a woman, or a man supporting it by a woman he got pregnant) as a redflag, the failure to implement birthcontrol effectively was a yellow flag... dealing with that failure sensibly is a very positive choice and shows you've got what it takes to recover decisively from mistakes. Anyhow, I believe that most people who are out of their teens will have aspects of their past that raise questions therefore most relationships are going to have to involve people having to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 01:35 AM
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Same lie women get told, that "normal" is easy and the default therefore for a bright/pretty/handsome thing like themselves. "success" should therefore only take a very minimal amount of work and is there for the taking. The reality is, however, that "normal" is most of the time a human being working as hard as everyone around them does or even harder for average results, and that average results are sucky and will not be enough for many people to feel satisfied, and that success is illusive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 09:56 PM
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ok the guys who are manchildren and want to play videya games instead of fixing shit around the house is a legit issue. but paying someone else to do it often makes more sense than doing it yourself. Doesn't alter the fact that she's now lumbered with an ongoing major daily commitment turning time into nutrition and hygiene and he's signing a cheque and enjoying a day off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 09:44 PM
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I have no idea what workloads are you talking about. If you don't understand what I said but want a woman who cooks and cleans and will continue to do so happily forever, then that's going to end up more your problem than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:58 PM
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I think I've been perfectly clear about what the problem is with regarding a bit of tinkering as equivalent to taking on doing the cooking and housework. If you don't want to see it then fine, but most women nowadays do see it... and if they don't before they agree to such a thing they certainly do after a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:57 PM
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Other BPs had no issues with that, while they would go bananas should somebody say he wanted a feminine housewife. I'm not totally blue, but if I was I still doubt I'd have a problem with guys wanting housewives. Heck, I want a housewife myself! http://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/rainbow/wife.html HOWEVER... there's a bit of a problem with too equally comparing housewifery to mechanical skills. The problem is that a hundred + years ago most women who married a man who had mechanical skills would get…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:01 PM
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https://youtu.be/7n39RzgVNP8 Just saying. If you take the essentialist viewpoint that bodies are what it is all about, well some people just don't like vag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:19 AM
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There are dangers in giving someone an overt answer to a question that is being posed covertly. Generally if someone is covert about asking a question it is because they just can't stand to hear a NO... go ahead and volunteer that overt NO and you risk an explosion of rage that you have no real defense against... you can't even say "but you asked" because there's no overt evidence of the asking. He never did ask... he made it known but he never asked. If the person posing that covert question ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:08 AM
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tugs tons of dicks without having sex with some of them. Describes the first couple of years of high school sex life of most of the girls of my generation. I'm pretty sure there's girls who still do it that way and rack up a fine old count of handjobs before they decide to take the plunge and fuck... especially as there's less risk of truly embarrassing photos being taken while tugging a guys dick than while sucking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:34 AM
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So a girl can tug as many dicks as she wants and it doesn't count as sex or hooking up? Coooooool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 03:21 AM
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only hooking up as a long term mating strategy oh the humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:09 AM
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Women are more likely to complain about feeling used for sex, I'm not so sure that means they are more likely to actually feel used for sex. People word their complaints for the world outside themselves, they don't just straightforward say what is on their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:09 AM
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I'm a woman in her late forties. Average Australian men my age look like this. I've ignored the "face only" instruction because they are all in suits that substantially hide their build. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_Ministry#/media/File:Quentin_Bryce_with_the_newly_sworn_in_Abbott_Ministry_cropped.jpg Those guys are middle/upper class. Add on a more beaten up look and more wrinkles in working class guys. Of course all those guys are politicians so they've obviously got more to offer than…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:20 AM
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Sex is not hard to get compared to just about anything else you may be attempting to persuade a stranger to give you on a regular basis. About the only thing easier to get than sex is opinions. There's women who sell sex, it has a market price. Let's say it is $100 a go where you live, and therefore a fuckbuddy you see once a week is worth $5200 pa. You know what else? Just fucking try persuading some random person you meet at a party to give you $5200 pa of drugs or travel or housing or whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 05:24 AM
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Ooooh I can play this stupid evopsych game with stupid prizes too! The urge of a man to make such requests and the urge by a woman to maybe to give into such requests seems, in a world without much porn, to occur at about the part of a relationship where things are "getting boring" ie the point at which the woman wants a change of mate. Prescription antibiotics are a very recent innovation and male urinary tract infections are deadly things. I mean just saying, when you've reached the point wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 12:06 PM
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I haven't read the link you posted, but I would like to point out that there are a lot of differences between the usages and meanings of words like "problematic" "wrong" and "shaming". A great number of things are problematic that also have a distinctly positive side. For example, vehicles that burn fossil fuels. I've noticed that a lot of guys who seem to have a very anxious relationship with the world and tend to post on the TRP/MRA/INCEL side of things seem to have trouble with appreciating n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 05:09 AM
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SMV? No. Mostly they underestimate it. RMV? Well part of the estimation of oneself in the RMV is setting a floor price at which one says "oh hell no" and holds what one has. That's the point at which what one is able to do to please and nurture oneself with the energy one would have spent on a partner is more than what having a partner would have given you. So not everyone who sets a high standard is overestimating their value. If a person is quite prepared to wait or do without then usually the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 11:23 PM
1

Because he's not too cowardly to tell the truth about himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 09:18 PM
2

boom-tish
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 11:27 AM
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It isn't causing a huge fuss in my country because only a small proportion of circed guys here seem to think it is a problem, a large number of circed guys think circing is great, and any time anyone speaks up about it they don't quite know how to deal with that. If that person speaking up is a woman eventually she's gonna say "well guys, get your shit together and form a better consensus if you want change, seeya then" and if the person speaking up is a man he's going to feel deeply uncomfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:21 AM
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Well yeah, under most circumstances talking to people you don't know is creepy. Cities only work because people agree it is right to stay the heck out of each other's business most of the time. That way people who have something (money, a nice pair of shoes, a tight hot ass, a car, change in their pockets, a spare bedroom in their apartment etc) can go about their business relatively unbothered and have actual lives where they are allowed to walk down the street to go get coffee without the full…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:56 PM
1

Ah, the weekly attempt to improve things for low quality men by encouraging women to attempt to compete like crazy for high quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 01:21 AM
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If you believe in sex positivity and that sexual desire is a healthy and good thing, how can you then shame men for expressing it? Desire to drive a car to get places like work or go shopping or visit relatives is a healthy good thing, but seriously (or in some cases, even jokingly) asking me for my car keys when I don't know or trust you and not a single bit of rapport has been cultivated is going to put you on my shitlist as a person who is not to be trusted. This is social competency 101. Oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 12:58 AM
1

The average human being can take a heck of a lot of awkwardness with very few ill effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:45 AM
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I don't relate to her experience because not every woman in the corporate world goes in to climb the ladder. Yup. I've got a friend who works for the tax office, is quite high up, makes good money too. And it is just a fucking job and doesn't stop her doing the stuff she wants. She's doing better than a lot of people who went all out trying for a career. Most jobs? Are just jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:20 AM
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There is a large group of men universally hated by some modern and influential strands of feministm, archetypically: white, heterosexual, introverted, "nerdy" and often working in the IT sector No, sorry, nobody cares enough about them to hate them as a group, just as individuals when they get pushy or whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 11:41 AM
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Most people are not college kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 01:51 PM
1

If you're poor and have ten aunties/uncles, ten siblings and ten children, chances are one of them will be able to loan you $100, one of them will be able to loan you a car and one of them will have a couch for you to sleep on. That can make all the difference. Family is still in its own way a form of wealth that can be acquired. I think it is also worth looking at how good the economic system is at stripping other forms of wealth from certain people. You get a crap job and suddenly you don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 01:49 PM
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I'm surprised that anyone is surprised. This is just how the rules work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 06:53 PM
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IRL, she probably doesn't say exagerated stuff like "I want you to whatever with your whatever whatever" Is this really such an unusual and exaggerated thing for a woman to do? I mean sure it takes a while to get to that level of comfort in a relationship, where an absolutely filthy request can be made in a very straightforward manner, but people usually do get to that point, right? I mean most of us have had relationships that included that level of comfort, right? Someone help me out here and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 06:37 PM
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In the Aziz situation, the woman agreed and consented to oral sex, but not PiV sex. Why? Why not just go all the way? IDK maybe she just wanted to find out if he tasted like curry? Maybe she liked the power aspect of having her teeth right there? Maybe she was uncertain about her BC? Maybe he has foul breath and this way she for sure would not have his face near hers? Maybe she was considering slipping a couple of fingers up his arse to see how he damn well likes random fingers where they weren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:22 PM
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I've been on the warpath ever since I left my 11 year old daughter in her school uniform waiting in line at the supermarket, came back in like 45 seconds with the item I forgot and some 40 year old was creeping up to her while she looked terrified and nauseated. Even to this day, if I could get away with cutting that guy's dick and balls off and mailing them home to his mother who shoulda taught him better, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:01 PM
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How do you explain lesbian feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:49 PM
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Everybody hates weak people, there's just a slightly different focus on the sorts of strength required. Look at how women who are too weak to say no and end up fucking men other than their boyfriend, letting the lacrosse team run a train etc get hated. How do you feel about women who are giving birth and say "yeah I just can't face up to this imma stop pushing this baby out so you have to give me an emergency c-section"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 01:29 PM
1

Marry for money and you'll earn every penny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:08 AM
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If one is actually a kind person then indulging in kind behaviors reaps the various subtle rewards associated with authenticity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:20 PM
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Please do not respond to me. I would not like to continue discussing with you on this topic. eyeroll If you want to never interact with me again I'm sure there's some sort of killfile capability on this thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:16 PM
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One thing that isn't "data" but is just common sense is that prior to the advances in fertility technology of the 20th century the approximately 7% of people who seem to have been born to have have serious fertility issues plus whatever % happened to have low fertility in that era due to damage from STIs plus whatever percentage of gay men don't get it up at all for women would have been pretty much facing their fertility problems without help. Not having kids was a serious resource problem for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 07:39 AM
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1) A bit put out but not furious, and I'd hide my irritation. If I'm pregnant either I've been deliberately and methodically and co-operatively trying for a kid with a man who I've consulted with about this thoroughly and completely consents or there's gonna be an abortion. Either way this is not a situation that screams for testing. 2)I'd chalk it up as something I can raise to get a bit of leeway should I ever have slightly insulting doubts about his reliability and wish for expensive or degra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 02:26 AM
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I've only really known one model, a girl I worked with at a fast food place in my teens. Her relationship with an average guy (one of our co-workers) broke up when she got successful. He just couldn't handle it, all the attention she got, and wanted her to quit. She understandably thought that was insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:49 PM
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Sorry for my english but it is not my first language IDK what culture you are from but in cultures where a woman is expected to be virgin until she's in something serious and families take a large role in setting up matches, well then of course there are going to be women who shrug their shoulders and get engaged to an average schmuck their family is keen on them marrying precisely so they can start screwing around. This is especially the case where those cultures are transplanted into cultures …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:58 AM
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You can't just say "who use drugs" and it mean anything much. Every drug has a different use profile, often more than one different use profile. I mean women who are abusing prescription tranquilisers... what's their thing? What about women who use ridiculous amounts of energy drinks to keep them hopped up for work... it isn't illegal but it is still drugs used in a harmful way. Or the housewife who keeps a cask of wine in the fridge and ends every day in a drunken stupor. Or the woman who gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:47 AM
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A gate that is frequently left open may still get slammed shut on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:04 AM
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If she smokes cigarettes, does coke, smokes weed, drinks, clubs, etc, A lot of folks who are younger than the 70s don't seem to realize that cigarettes were pretty much universal and are still very common in certain areas even among women who are fairly staid and considered... I hesitate to say cigarette use is a particularly good correlation with liking TRPS unless you are very specific about who and how. Go hang out at any small-town factory that employs women in dirty nasty jobs... a meatwork…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:57 AM
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Why would something that is the product of evolution be regarded as unimportant in mate selection? I keep encountering this opinion from TRPers and short guys all the time it just seems so ridiculous and solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:09 AM
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I come from a different era, when our parents advised us to only willingly let a photo be taken of it if you could handle the consequences of it on the front page of the newspaper and clearly associated with you at any and all stages of your future life. When you have a new partner. When you have teenage kids. When you're suffering from dementia in the nursing home being spoon fed pap by a poorly educated male migrant nurse with very different cultural values. So no pics from me. I advise my tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:00 PM
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Do you know what happens when, for one reason or another, you deny MOST men sex? They sign up to die for 72 virgins. Naw dude, that happens where you deny them porn and games too. You know I'm right and most of the sexless guys reading this are going to live the proof tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 02:25 AM
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Even where cohabitation also means some loss of benefits (such as Australia) there's very little point in poor folks getting married. The cost of a registry office wedding here is AU$291. Add in the price of a really cheap wedding ring (leaving off engagement ring altogether) and taking everyone out for coffee after and you're not going to get out of that with much change from $500, and the wedding will be regarded as shamefully skimpy. If you down't want it to be shamefully skimpy then you're l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 06:08 PM
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It isn't charging for the sex. It is charging for not also having sex with guys who are hotter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:30 PM
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I think to get any real insight you'd need to look at gift giving between members of couples separately from gift giving that is intended to grab the attention of someone the giver is not in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 03:11 PM
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So for these women, her "gift" is allowing him to have sex with her Pfffft. More like it is setting aside a whole afternoon for that ridiculous whipped-cream-and-strawberry-jam fantasy of his that is bound to give her a yeastie beastie and necessitate a couple of extra loads of washing. then baking something for everyone in the house to eat. Sure. So he can watch all his sexually unsuccessful friends choke down a slice. How sweet it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 03:06 PM
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Sure. Chad Morgan makes me laugh. https://youtu.be/NINkfRSeJH8 https://youtu.be/fWQ7TFFKEz8 https://youtu.be/ggP0r2xnyJ8
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 12:17 PM
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Would you send loving text messages to someone who violently raped you ? Didn't you read what I said? He'd likely be dead or dying. There's no loving text messages down that path. For the purposes of dealing with him day to day, because getting a dick shoved up my bum without warning or prior negotiation would be rape for me, then he's functionally a rapist. If I get into bed with him rape is on the cards because a man will treat me how he treated others. And it doesn't matter whether the legal …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 03:01 AM
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There's a general rule that most sensible women adhere to when dealing with men of whom they lack deep personal experience, that goes "If he did something bad to her he'll do it to you too given half a chance." It is a rule very similar to AWALT, in that it has a protective purpose and those who adhere to it don't give a shit how hard done by strangers feel that they are adhering to the rule. One can, if one wishes, argue that such a rule may be wrong However people have a right to simplify thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 02:04 AM
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I don't think in general it matters much whether the rest of us thought it was infidelity, what matters is whether either or both members of the couple see it as such. That said, I've been in the unpleasant situation of consuming a mere 1.5 standard drinks at a fairly sedate formal daytime event and just about passing out because unbeknownst to me I was in the prodrome for mononucleosis. I staggered off to a taxi rank, gave the driver directions to my (at that point, relatively new) boyfriend wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 12:56 AM
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I've always classed "dating" as the bit of a romantic relationship that happens after you start going places together in public but before you make any sort of understanding between you that you are exclusive or that the relationship is not one that can be dissolved on a whim. You fade on someone you are only dating and they might get upset but no observer with any sense who knows where the relationship was at will care that you are upset. You were only dating and possibly not even dating exclus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:33 AM
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There's good men, bad men, and crap men. Only the crap men are going to be scared off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:45 AM
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"nice" neighborhoods where I live are actually scarier than more middling neighborhoods because the houses are set back further from the street and there are lots of trees and bushes. You could be screaming your head off and no-one be able to see it from their window or know for sure it is right in front of their place not four doors down. And then when the police get called yeah sure they are happy to go to a nice neighborhood but they are unlikely to have a patrol there just hanging round wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 11:43 PM
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Why do redpillers put up with women's shit behaviour? Redpillers are low value guys who want pretty girls. Something's gotta be the dump stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:15 PM
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Would u ladies have any problems with a guy having a replicated vagina that he engages in when you are not around? No problem so long as he keeps it clean, tidies it away and doesn't indulge in it so much our sex life completely tanks or he neglects normal life. If you do, do you think its the same as having a dildo? No, not the same thing, one is an innie and one is an outtie, they have clearly different uses. But if he wants a dildo too to shove up his arse while he fucks the flesh light I'm f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:25 AM
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Y'know guys say they want just one thing. Then three years later you're living together and he wants silence while the football is on, control of the TV remote, his coffee made just so, collars that have had all the yellow removed, you to not give up work because his can't afford it but also not to go for that promotion because it will take too much of your time, you to accept that his career decisions are taken without consulting you, you to stop talking to your friends about him while he conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:49 AM
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I haven't seen anyone being "triggered" by sex bots. Nobody much cares how you masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:57 AM
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Many high end escorts also clean up their act and quit drug addictions first; trashy junkies don't sell as high end escorts. When an opiate addict is getting all the stuff they need and it is good consistent quality and being consumed under good conditions (all things that are possible on the earnings of a mid to high-end escort) then if they are socially adept (as most mid to high end escorts are) you're not going to be able to quickly tell that they are addicted. It can take months of actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:08 PM
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Look, if you want to think whores are some special high count case where you can rub yourself against them and not have high risk of contagion, go right ahead if that lets you keep your boner in the face of a girl who has fucked a thousand guys, no woman needs to have the same opinion as you and we know exactly why you are so committed to that opinion. You're thinking with the small head not the big one. Most whores start out as bar sluts doing drugs and casual sex in equal measure, then get an …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:33 PM
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High end escorts in their spare time will be fucking guys they see as a possible back-up plan and guys they see as attractive.And they'll probably be foregoing the condoms altogether for that in part to make that sex seem different, special. There's nothing special about a relationship having lasted a few months that suddenly entitles you to answers. I mean sure it is unusual not to be giving answers to one's LTR but that does not mean the LTR is entitled to answers. And yes you're correct, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:18 PM
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Most sex workers do a fair bit of fucking for free too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:54 PM
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a prostitute (who always has safe sex) hahahhahahahahahaha most prostitutes have very expensive very urgent addictive habits and the safe sex is very inconsistently applied. And the guys they are fucking are usually fucking other hookers too, so you might as well be fucking the whole state. The only things proddies do better is they see the doc more so the things we actually know about and treat get treated. But how can these people avoid if they don't know? So you're saying it's also OK for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:52 PM
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Men don't lie about their n counts constantly They exaggerate ridiculously, often to the extent of claiming they've fucked specific women they have not actually fucked. https://youtu.be/m6hzkBihaew
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:45 AM
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I'm fairly certain you'll find some evidence that marrying broke idiots who subsequently divorce you makes the broke idiots a little better off financially post-divorce. Eh, the broke idiots probably would have learned more about making themselves not-broke if they'd stayed unmarried, so chances are unless one is quite wealthy one's ex would still have been better off blundering through under their own steam rather than getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:32 AM
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Why? Read the rest of the sentence. I don't get it :p Oh well, nothing new then I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:29 AM
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What's the difference of a girl slutting herself to many men? Never said there was much difference... except of course the guy is throwing money away to become gross so he's not just gross he's an idiot too. Maybe because the men are tired of dishonesty lol. You'd be tired of men's dishonesty too if you were bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:22 AM
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Gross. Fuck a proddy and in terms of infectiousness you're fucking half the State. No, the current tests do not detect everything. You can catch something we don't test for yet and have it for decades. I mean seriously when I was young, the general public didn't know about this http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-test-for-sti-superbug-youve-probably-never-heard-of-20180117-h0jtuw.html so what else don't we know about right now? I'm fine with people avoiding sex with people with high counts or …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:59 AM
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Whether it is legally rape or not, people who do it are people I will exclude from my social circles as much as possible. I'm not the only one. A lot of people feel responsible to some degree for screening the people they bring into their friends' lives. So if you are asking because fear of punishment is your concern, the answers to "when is it rape" are maybe not quite enough to cover your concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:51 AM
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That's all fine but these girls have no right to deny or hide their past from their husbands. "deny"? "husbands"? Look, a person has every right to refuse to answer questions about their sexual past unless they have established an understanding in their relationship that such questions are expected to be answered. Marriage isn't what gives that understanding. Communication and negotiation is what gives that understanding. If someone goes so far as to MARRY someone without having already establis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:59 PM
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Well there's a fair amount of telling TRPers that fewer women than they seem think have any significant reason to lie about N count, and also that some of the things TRPers seem to count as as "lying" are really no such thing... for example it is not a lie for a 23 year old woman who fucked 300 guys in college to wear no makeup and a modest floral dress to go grocery shopping on Saturday morning, and not pepper her conversation with swear words and sexual references.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:38 PM
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Women are human, a sizable proportion of humanity lies for their own benefit. Bluepill takes issue with the idea that all women lie. I mean for starters, most women prefer LTRs and don't really have the sort of sexual histories that cause raised eyebrows from normal moderate folks, and because their sexual history is not in general going to be a problem to a man with similar very ordinary values to them there's no point lying about it if they want a man who has similar values to them for a LTR. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:24 PM
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Well duh, if there is someone who once said they were your friend, and even wanted to be in your body and you have done nothing to wrong them, but they don't even acknowledge you by saying "Hi" at the lunch counter, that's creepy and douchy of them. Look there's a difference between "being friends" and "being on friendly terms" and being knocked back for sex is not a reason not to continue to be on friendly terms with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:43 PM
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All men ask is for frequent sex and to not nag them. Someone has never had to deal with a man who got used to having his laundry done for him then all of a sudden it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:27 PM
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Y'know what? It isn't that "nice guys" stop wanting to hang out so much, do things together, be readily available etc. That's mildly irksome but it isn't a huge problem. It is that they become not just distant as friends go, but downright unfriendly. As in they go from outright adoration to actively trying to mess the girl around and hurt her. Its kind of a little window into how any woman they end up in a LTR with is going to be treated if she becomes ill or in some way must be sexually absent …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:14 PM
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These sort of posts, where someone just can't get the attention they want in-thread and so write a new post are hella tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:05 PM
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I'm guessing she was drunk and sleep deprived too, and at the start thought it would be just a couple of refusals, then by the time she gave in she was beyond anything other than seeing the world through the sort of psychotic sleep-deprived haze where it is either do nothing or find a knife and kill the problem. Anyhow, I sorta wish she'd killed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:12 AM
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There's plenty of cat ladies. They live quiet lives for the most part, you barely notice them. They are the ones who would be marrying the low-end aspies of reddit. They've got the smarts and they've done the sums, they are better able to use that energy to please themselves than to use it to please some man in the vain hope he'll reciprocate properly. The low value women who end up having kids at the cost of tax dollars are a totally different matter, they are the ones who would otherwise end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:32 AM
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And yet the marriage rate has been collapsing for decades and decades on end One would think it would be at zero by now if things are as you say they are. My personal opinion is that the marriage rates of the 1950s and 1960s were deeply unnatural and due to unusual historical circumstances. We're seeing a correction, back to how things have always been, with the least suitable men not being able to get brides even if they commit everything they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:42 AM
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The value of men willing to marry would go up, and some of them would break ranks. Once some start breaking ranks, the blockade doesn't work anymore and they all break ranks. They do that when sex is involved, just like women do that when the welfare of their kids is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 01:32 AM
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They both lost status as soon as they got knocked up by randos. Doesn't matter how great of a "catch" either of the guys are, that's trashy as hell. From what I've seen, if the guy is decent it is a remarkable survivable event in terms of social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:03 AM
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Just on the question of social status, I presume the second woman loses some places in the social pecking order of the social circle It isn't as simple as that. And appearance isn't what it is mostly about... are you one of those guys who thinks it is always about appearance? Being with a guy who has no social status and is socially inept is the kiss of death to one's social status, and it isn't a sudden death. You stop being invited places, people become less willing to accept your invites. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:02 AM
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Yeah whatever, human beings alert each other to bad behavior, and a lot of the time they get it wrong. There's no doubt millions of women each year who get called gold-diggers, crazy or sluts when they really are no such thing. It sucks but that's being part of a social species. Nobody cares if you get cockblocked any more than they care if a girl has trouble getting guys who are after commitment because some guy has been putting it around that she's something she's not. You need to harden the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 11:38 PM
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The word "creep" puts people on alert about certain aspects of your potential behavior for a short period of time, that's all. If no creepy actions are observed they settle down and forget about it. The word is dangerous only to people who are consistently doing creepy things... and if you're one of those people maybe you need the damage the word can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:34 PM
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Well I think a woman has the right to smear her boss's coffee cup with fecal matter picked up from a homeless camp if he hits on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:53 AM
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Why are you even asking this question? Nobody here is responsible for making that judgment for you or for coping with the consequences of it. What happens if we tell you to yeah go be a bad boy, and you do that and can't take the implications of shit you've done then it is all cut cut cut cry cry cry PPD made me do it then you bleed out in the gutter? What happens if "not being morally good" for you turns out to mean poisoning the water supply of a major urban area? What if we say yeah you go br…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:01 PM
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To be fair, I doubt they enforce this rule when a post manages to stimulate large amounts of actual debate that is interesting and has new ideas. If someone posts something lame that doesn't get up and walk under its own steam then that OP needs to help it along if it is to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:22 AM
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TRPer to English translation, waaaah waaah waaaah I don't have control over women's bodies or minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 05:48 PM
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Wanting an expensive ring is what some women do and is consistent with their general approach to their presentation level, there's a lot less wrong with that wanting of a ring than there is with making a proposal with no idea what form your intended's wants take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 12:55 PM
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Well that's the thing... the ring brings it all out. Just like the wedding planning brings out other sorts of crazyness. If the couple really did know each other then no probs. If they didn't and only know each other because the societal forms tested them... they should be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:42 AM
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That's just human crafted bullcrap That's marriage for you. you're making it reality to you and those who believe in it, If you want your marriage to reflect you and what you believe, you have to find someone who is on the same page as you. If you don't the marriage will contain three points of view... one for each member of the couple and one for what the rest of the world thinks about your mess. The only way you exclude the rest of the world is by finding someone who holds to the same line as …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:39 AM
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I strongly think that having any expectations over an engagement ring makes you a bad person. You're out of step with society in general. There's a reason everyone wants to see the ring as soon as an engagement is announced, they want to know what the couple agreed on because it says a lot about their expectations of each other, their marriage and of the world. That's just reality. What you talk about looks like to me a sugar daddy/gold digger relationship where a woman marries a man only for hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:48 AM
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If a couple can't come to agreement over a ring, they shouldn't marry. If a woman feels that a particular value of ring is consistent with her values and needs in the context of the overall wealth level of the relationship, she should ask for that value ring and doing so does not mean she is a bad person even if it seems rather expensive. Very rarely is the amount of ring requested a true surprise to a man if he has been paying attention to what his intended wife values in life. When it is a sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:52 AM
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That is absolutely not what you're talking about. Yes it is what I'm talking about are you listening or do you have blocked ears? Most guys who get caught out by an expensive ring request are actively in denial about who they've asked to marry them. Men have to stop acting outraged that what everyone could have seen will happen does happen. If the woman I date likes to dress fancy, put shitload of make-up and spend hours grooming herself, that's her problem and I won't have a word in it, she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:34 AM
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Pretty much. That's why the engagement ring is such a sensible custom. It forces the issue of what his expectations in spending are and what her expectations in being spent upon are, what image they wish to project, how they intend to budget. If we didn't have a custom like that we'd have to invent one again. Its insane the way some guys are all against it. They'd rather marry someone they are not one the same page with about these things and have no point at which the issue was brought out? WTF…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:21 AM
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An engagement ring is a status display, just like a nice weave or a set of perfect white teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:16 AM
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If requests for $10,000+ rings stop one stingy guy from marrying a girl who is not all about that, then it is worth the expenditure on the part of all the men who step up and pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:14 AM
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Oh get over yourself. The girls who ask for those giant sparklers are for the most part obvious from the get go, and they deliberately make it obvious. You know what they are like, they are easy to pick. If you're not down with that then it is easy to avoid them. Pretending to go along with it then stumbling at the first major expenditure isn't something anyone with any sense will feel sorry for you over. What is entitlement is expecting someone who has clearly advertised what they are and what …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:12 AM
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Some guys are as into it as some girls and are thrilled to get a partner who will make sure the granite countertops are the rarest and fanciest stone ever and will buy herself the fanciest loungewear to idly sit by their pool while reading the latest interior design magazines. Some guys are attracted to how it looks but catch feels and refuse to think through what it means in the long term once financial aspects of life are shared. Single women rarely hide what they want from life in terms of ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:45 PM
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Well duh, of course if you get yourself a high maintenance woman, want her to link herself to you forever and then become dependent on you while she makes babies, but refuse to spend money on maintaining her aesthetic standards that attracted you in the first place you are a cheapass motherfucker. I see this over and over again on reddit, guys whining about engagement ring costs. They don't whine about their girlfriends' fancy nails or bright white smile or hot gym bod or perfectly fitted dresse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:33 PM
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A sportscar does not indicate high RMV. Edited to add: I don't think I've stated that strongly enough. I have NEVER seen a guy with a sportscar and thought "I must marry that guy" or "His girlfriend is a lucky girl to have him" Sportscars say getting shagged somewhere fun with lots of nice wine and the music turned up loud. They say bedhopping and dramas. They don't say waking up together with bedhead the rest of your lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:42 PM
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I think it makes sense for the man's last name to be the most usual. I think it adds to the solemnity and finality of the decision to ascribe parental obligations to him. A woman gets plenty of moments by default that cause the responsibility of the situation to hit home, guys are somewhat lacking in those moments because they don't do the physical gestating. However I also do think if the women wants she should be allowed to leave the father off the birth certificate and give the kid her last n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:23 PM
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Is that the sound of your head inserting itself up your arse? The point of what I'm saying is that one shouldn't get involved in planning out other people's romantic choices, because the compromises they make must ultimately be their compromises, not the ones you would choose for them. Now bugger off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 12:09 AM
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Of course she can do what she pleases. I mean maybe it isn't going to turn out how she wants once other people get involved, but that's true of everyone everywhere all the time... nobody gets everything they want. She's got freedom of movement, action and association. She can do what she pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 11:01 PM
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Why would a man who was casually banging a woman "open up" about a false accusation, that was just dumb. Because she wasn't the only one who caught feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:49 PM
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Depends on the how of it really. I mean are we talking pre-teen offspring, or are we talking older teenagers? Is the person who leaves going to another city or are they just going to live around the corner? Are they intending on creating another very confusing family that will cause problems to the kids, or have they decided not to have any more kids for the sake of their existing ones? Have they decided not to have another live-in lover? Are they paying their child support? Complicated. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:12 PM
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If I've got a personal connection to the victim. If there are children getting hurt. You've also got to understand that whatever way someone chooses to behave also alters my interactions with them. For example I'd be unlikely to invite someone who appeared to be after a particular class of "victim" to an event where I have invited a perfect victim for them. I'm not going to try to steer people's decisions because obviously I'd rather no-one have to live with me having steered them and it having …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:04 PM
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Just like with if a women does the same thing... I'm going to give him side-eye and he's probably not going to care too much. At least his choice was his own, if it all goes well or if it all falls apart, he's going to have no-one to blame but himself. Seriously a lot of you guys need to think carefully through the pitfalls of attempting to set out other people's life courses for them. Because those pitfalls are numerous and a lot of the time no you are not helping when you "help"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 02:51 PM
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I don't think doing whatever she damn well pleases is inconsistent with doing the right thing, but neither is it consistent with doing the right thing. It is kind of a tangential issue. If she's a good person what will please her will be ethically sound, if she's a fully grown adult who is not a good person then maybe it will be ethically sound and maybe it won't but getting on her case about one instance of what she chooses to do with her romantic life is unlikely to make a difference, I mean s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 02:25 PM
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And she should still do whatever she damn well pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:21 PM
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She should do whatever she damn well pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:39 PM
1

Fine, you go do that then. Not every other man is going to want that for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:31 PM
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Flirting is fun. Why fuck at all if I'm not going to get the sort of thing I like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:34 PM
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That's an even more common delusion among guys, someone going through a slutty phase fucks a guy in her social or work circles and then she's fucking all the other guys too and he's going various shades of green and exploding over it because he thought his magic penis should make a woman he knew very little about into a perfect little wifey. What can I say? A percentage of people are just stupid and clingy and don't know how to see the world without it revolving around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:58 PM
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force the issue At this point I wish to draw your attention to the stellar advice that TRP often mocks... "women don't owe you anything" It is highly relevant. Women don't owe you advice. They know they don't owe you advice. If you try to force it out of them the advice they will give you will amount to some form of "yeah fuck off and stop bothering me a good long time" that you will actually fall for. And that's perfectly reasonable. They don't owe you advice, and they know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:17 AM
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IDK, is he really that much of a success? I mean, he's pretty much making himself a public figure which comes with all sorts of unwanted shit (including having your mistakes be fodder for news media) and for what, how much money and how many realistic possibilities for the future is he actually getting back from that? Even conventional D-list celebrities aren't always as well off as they make out they are. So someone with more knowledge of the trade he's in than me... how well is he actually doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:00 AM
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yeah for whatever reason you guys are too busy with your life That's because to have an average normal sort of life pretty much takes up all an average normal sort of person has to offer. Nobody has time or spirit to be 100% on the hook for the rescue of another person in anything that will take hour after hour of thankless work unless that person is their lover or their child. TRP doesn't care about you either, it just is less honest about not caring. Where anyone else will say outright "yeah t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:54 AM
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The ways to be attractive have always been promoted and have never been a massive TRP secret, nerds just ignored them throughout their childhood and teen years because they thought they knew better and did not personally find physical activity, getting out the house and learning how to be social a fun thing to do. It is perfectly reasonable that nobody wants to take on unpaid responsibility for walking someone through a very complicated long-term project with multiple stumbling blocks and multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:25 AM
2

U must deny vaginal tho or at least get a hysterectomy . Menopause?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:43 PM
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Pfffft I've heard that with some guys you can't even tell when they've started.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:24 PM
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So you want to not allow women to get abortions and therefore hang out to dry all the guys who would otherwise in future heave a sigh of relief when after handing him a positive pregnancy test his girlfriend says "this is just the worst possible time and really I'm thinking maybe I should just end the pregnancy"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:16 PM
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Eucalyptus camaldulensis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 12:39 PM
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Sigh. That something has magic is in essence a spiritual/religious belief. I am disinclined to go around saying that other people's spiritual beliefs are wrong... not able to be proved and not supported by evidence for sure, but not wrong for those who elect to believe that way, for them it is right and I'm only going to disagree with what is right for them when I've got damn good reason for wanting a holy war to settle the matter. Anyhow if you're seeing women as magical you don't have to give …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:14 AM
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Negatives? If your parents don't protect you very carefully in your teen years you are screwed, some sort of predator will find you and whore you out. Similarly, you're probably going to find it tough going living in any environment where you can't fully restrict access to who is allowed around you. Share-house accommodation is always going to be an iffy thing. Some jobs where you are alone overnight with the public having access are going to be more of a risk for you, for example working at a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:59 AM
1

Well nothing can help those who actively sabotage and avoid the sort of interactions that lead to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:54 PM
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Im not saying he should or shouldn't do anything in the relationship. I think they should break up, they don't match each other. THIS. He hasn't put a ring on it, there's no baby and no joint mortgage. She's free to leave and go find someone else. If it turns out the way he likes things to be leaves her feeling like she's living a life that is parallel to his but never connects, maybe ending it is the best choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:55 AM
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I mean maybe I could have asked her to shower but that would have seemed rude. Well what's the worst she would have done to you... refuse sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 07:12 AM
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Pretty much. It is also why the joking about fat women has some of the same tone to it that joking about gayness tends to have... where we all know that some men are joking about how they wouldn't do something that secretly, in the right place and at the right time, they'd be all about doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 06:14 AM
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Social skills, good looks, money, social status, genuinely nice person. You need two out of five to with a little bit of added effort not end up incel, three out of five to be doing well, four out of five to pretty much have your pick of women of your own age and social class, and five out of five to be a god among men whose attractiveness transcends age and social barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 04:49 AM
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Well obviously they have to go somewhere, I don't want them round me. But saying I "sent" them there rather seems like you are offloading on me responsibility for their own choices in life. I don't care where they go, they don't have to go anywhere in particular they just have to get the hell away from me and mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:26 AM
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They record them that way so the viewer can imagine he's the boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 02:23 AM
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I used to work a job that involved as part of the work assessing people for assistance when they leave abusive relationships. A lot of what you might call "frequent fliers" in terms of both having abusive partners and being abusive partners are people with poor emotional regulation. These people really should give up on relationships for a few years and learn to deal with challenges alone, then re-enter the relationship marketplace cautiously, but alas such people seem to find relationships addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 06:26 AM
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TRP men are stupid, lazy and resentful. Going to both work and the gym is too much to cope with emotionally unless they frame it as some sort of war between the interests of men and the interests of women. If they frame it that way they then get to feel they are some sort of trickster gods cheating women out of something or other, rather than just doing the bare minimum to be regarded as functional adult human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:54 PM
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Well you'll also know then there's not a lot to be done about it really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:31 PM
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Most of those women with the big dildos aren't masturbating in the sense most people masturbate, to cause themselves physical pleasure. They are doing something to their orifices that is one of the handful of things a woman can do alone, keep total control over her performance, filming and editing, and still get a reliable and monetizable audience on porn sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:07 AM
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So, what do you all think? Do you feel that the sex industry is causing a disparity between what is being desired, or is "average" slowly becoming the new "below average?" Welcome to the sort of reality that women have been complaining about for decades. Life's hard when there are people out there intent on reducing you down to a set of physical measurements. You just have to work out how where you draw the line at attempting to cater to this. Most women might wear a pushup bra but not get impla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:58 AM
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Those who are indigent might qualify for free mental health services offered by the state, but the best they can do is turn a truly mentally ill person to be "functional" enough to work at McDonald's. That's not a bad outcome. Actually it is a pretty good outcome. I mean seriously, have you actually worked at a burger joint? I have. We used to mainly hire high school kids for part time work, and only about half of them were good enough to keep giving hours to. To keep getting hours you had to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:31 PM
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I'm happy to keep discussing this, but you did just say "sure it isn't" to my point about not requiring a higher power, so... doesn't that mean you agree with my point? Like most idiots you aren't wrong about everything, just most things. Your point is that "nobody else is doing to take it seriously", but they are not in the marriage, right? You've never actually been married, have you? Imagine its 1000 years ago, we are living in tribes, and you and I run off and get 'married' by saying our vow…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:09 PM
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Your quoting the exception to the rule, which is fine, but realize that 'marriage' has nothing to do with state and/or God because its not necessary. Nope, not something I'm ever going to understand because it is not true. Until God or the State is involved what you have is not marriage, it is just a long term relationship. But, for some reason in the Western world we only 'accept' that as marriage if its in front of others (ceremony), a religious authority, or state marriage office. That would …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 01:31 AM
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because marriage is a contract between man and woman, not child Actually, no. Man, woman and the state and/or god. Quite a few states and religions have allowed divorce based upon infertility or unwillingness to have procreative sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:58 PM
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Most places require both bio parents to sign off on an adoption. If she puts the kid up for adoption in a place that does not have safe haven laws, and he refuses to sign off, would you agree that in that circumstance it is probably a good idea that the law force him to pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:18 AM
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This. It is one thing to say the cat must be belled, quite another to come up with a viable plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:15 AM
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My relationship with the woman will be my primary emotional relationship but there will be no sex. If I attempted such a thing it would end up like https://youtu.be/7n39RzgVNP8 I'm sure. The other woman and I will probably decide together what we are going to do about the guy. She can fuck him if she wants. If at any stage she decides she wants him all to herself there is zero chance I'll touch him. If she doesn't want exclusive access to him, well if we ferment enough fruit juice and get drunk …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:07 AM
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No-one should marry if they haven't discussed having kids first. If you've agreed to kids then yes you are obliged to actively follow through on that goal or to immediately discuss your change of mind and realize there may be consequences. Tricking someone into parenthood is wrong. Leaving a relationship (including a marriage relationship) where the participants differ significantly on the need for children and can not come to an agreed compromise is absolutely the correct thing to do as it free…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:53 AM
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So this happened in high school or at the very latest your college years I was 28 years old and it was in response to me having my first child, a very much planned and wanted child, in a relationship I'd been in for six years. I've pretty much stayed away from him for two decades, with a total of about 12 sightings of him during that time, some of them coincidental (at the shops) some of them to do with the cancer death of one of my siblings and a handful of visits to let him talk at me, during …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 03:07 AM
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Most older single women are divorcees or single mothers and have kids, and are busy with their kids, their friends and their crafts. Romance has retreated far enough away as a possibility that it ceases to be an active concern, and a more realistic idea of how much trouble men are to take care of is in place. Those who don't have kids don't seem to have much trouble finding men if they are willing to go for guys their own age that have grown kids and similar levels of wealth to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:09 AM
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I sleep really well at night knowing that I did what I could to help him. I'm not sure I can put this in a sympathetic way, so have it bluntly. If you didn't watch the situation diligently and proactively look for the right point get the authorities involved to at some stage remove his power to make his own decisions, then you didn't do what you could. I've already been through this with my mother as her dementia worsened so I'm not naive about what it takes to make a difference when an elderly …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 08:56 AM
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Dude, be grateful your father wasn't like mine, you're just volatile enough that your reaction to a father like mine might have been to kill him rather than just laugh when he disowns you then refuse to go back to reconcile. The best thing I've ever had from my father is his absence, and I'm looking forward to that being permanent and irreversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 08:06 AM
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They all describe my father. Miserable old scrote. I'm the only kid who bred and I don't visit him despite his threats and pleas and therefore he's never known his grandkids. The only people who bother with him are looking to inherit, and even they only bother just barely enough to not be disinherited. As soon as he's past the point of being able to organise a change of his will, he'll have no-one willing to lift a finger for his health and welfare. One day I'll find out he died alone on his flo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:49 AM
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t how do you know how old someone is. IF you have good habits you will look younger than you actually are. I hear the rhythmic clanking of a male hamster wheel. There's actually been rather a lot of research work done on age estimation both from age and from voice... it is a matter of some practical and legal consequence in law enforcement, it is relatively cheap to research and it is not a thing that causes complicated ethical issues arise in designing research. And that's just face and voice..…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:57 AM
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Nah, getting dumped was what made him realise that. TRP just gave him a way to blame it all on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 01:07 PM
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Do you realize that most of the people in the lunch room want to take a big bite of your lunch if it is looking particularly tasty? Do you realize that if you have a fast car, or a nice house, or even a particularly coveted t-shirt, most of your friends want that too? People have desires and a lot of the time they desire things other people have but won't be giving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 01:16 AM
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Let's say we have a hypothetical man who has a nontraditional relationship. TIL that being "allowed" to go out for coffee and have male friends while still being monogamous is a nontraditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:20 PM
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You didn't need TRP to put down the fork and go for a walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:17 PM
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nearly every one of your male friends comes sniffing around the instant you're single? Nah, less than 20% of the single ones and that was back when I was young and sorta hot. If you have experienced this, how do you mentally process the fact that so many men were just WAITING for a chance to sleep with and or date you. Because I wasn't the only one they were waiting to sleep with or date. Because they also had some goddam self control as shown by them not mooning about getting obsessive over any…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 01:16 PM
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IDK, vagina vault?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:18 AM
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There was a fair bit of it among my workmates (both male and female) when I was in my late teens early twenties and working a burger flipping job... but I think a lot of that was that the jobs they were working were low income and a lot of them were having relationships where they lived together and made a big show of it being a grand romance that would lead to happy ever after and picket fences but in reality (with the benefit of hindsight and a lot of thought) it was all about saving money and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 12:47 AM
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Not really where the affair was out in the open but I've witnessed break-ups where it seemed very likely that the woman was cheating. Often because she almost immediately jumped into another relationship. As someone who almost immediately jumped into a relationship may I say it ain't always what you seem to think it is? If you're young, attractive etc then guys you had never even considered whether they fancy you make their intentions known real quick because they've been fancying you all along …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 12:29 AM
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Well most white women there usually vote Republican, I guess those who weren't into that this time round just stayed home instead of voting Democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:23 PM
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Before I bother going any further, I'd like you to prove that women in general are "much more" promiscuous than men. This will require you to define promiscuity a little more exactly than its usual sloppy meaning (which is of course "has had more sexual partners than I feel comfortable with them having had") and then find statistics to demonstrate that from age 18 onwards, at most ages (not just at the beginning when yes in some populations women do get off to a quicker start than guys) substant…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:18 PM
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A term that allows a weak ineffectual man to pretend that women who have never birthed, fucked, married or cared about him should be doing something for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:57 PM
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yeah, everyone go to that thread https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7j1sxy/q4all_what_do_you_think_of_this_new_yorker_story/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:48 AM
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If i was making my decision in some sort of hypothetical state of perfect knowledge of the situation? Probably the autistic dude. If it was in a normal social situation? Sorry autistic dude, you probably don't put yourself out there enough to get your existence noticed. The sexist dude is an ass but at least I know he exists. But since I don't like sexist dudes much chances are I won't be having him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:30 AM
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IDK. Those are two things that have a spectrum of manifestations. The most serious manifestations of either are totally out of the question. The mildest manifestations of either are workable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:05 AM
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I'm saying there's only a certain number of games out there and they all end up in everyone paying and paying and paying one way or another. You pay in money or you pay in effort or you pay in deprivation or some combination of the above. Pick your game, you're going to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:41 AM
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and pick up a 20 year old at a fraction of the cost! If you've entered the age range where your wife needs to spend big bucks to look good, you're looking pretty damn wrinkled yourself to 20 year old eyes. 20 year olds don't want you unless you pay and pay and pay. And the when they get old themselves? They'll want you to pay all you did when they were young PLUS the same stuff your old wife wanted you to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:29 PM
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I of course never intend to grow old and infertile so this thread is not for me! snicker
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:28 PM
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Yeah $150 a month sounds right. nah its more than that. If you take it as being one item of high quality cosmetic item per month, one flattering new outfit per month and one new outfit per significant social event (no shit, guys like variety, they swear blind they don't need you to have a new flattering dress but their eyes light up when you do) one quality set of underwear per month, one set of quality sleepwear every month (no shit yes I know it gets removed but if you've got kids you still ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:27 PM
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Sigh. Friendship is more of a continuum than an either or thing. You can cool or distance a friendship in far more subtle ways than coming straight out and saying "well we can't be friends any more" or just cutting someone short. And that's what socially competent people do... they keep people at the right distance from them without dropping their friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:42 PM
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who are u or some1 else to tell me what I should or should not do with my time and friendship, u choose how u wanna spend it, I'll do the same. If you're witnessed being socially retarded, you'll get treated as a social retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:34 PM
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It's quite a good story. No it isn't. It went on far too long for the point it was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:30 PM
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WHY is this a bad thing ? Cos its the sort of thing that spergs with black/white either/or yes/no thinking go into headfirst without any planning or finesse, not the sort of thing people who are competently social do. Don't go particularly deeply into a friendship before you make your pass, don't act upset when your pass is refused, back off from the friendship enough to get a bit of space, do not announce to the other person that you are now no longer their friend instead recognise to yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:26 PM
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Not a universal turn off, just very very common as a turn off. Remember, there's women who love guys, gals, transmen, transwomen, the whole shebang. However an androgynous mannerism... your scrawny hipster... is highly appealing to quite a few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:16 AM
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Some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:43 AM
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between two equally hot women, every man would rather approach the less bitchy one This is one of those "what they say they want vs what they do a lot of times in reality" scenarios. Every guy is going to say he'd rather approach the nice girl, but walking up to a group of girls at a bar the bitch is going to make a snip comment while the nice girl is going to say nothing and wait for the guy who has approached to introduce himself. Because that's what nice people do, they assume if you're walki…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:50 AM
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Always an option, if she'll stick around for it. Or find someone else to be fuckbuddies with. The challenges of marriage aren't for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:53 PM
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When you do something shitty to another human being, at least have the decency to not frame it as his fault. Not having buttsex does not count as doing something shitty to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 09:11 AM
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This is the equivalent of a man walking up to his wife and saying, "I don't love you. All the dates, romance, spending time together, conversation, emotional support, etc. that you associate with love - I will no longer be performing. I may go through the motions now and then, but it will only be because you badgered me into it, and I'll show zero enthusiasm." Well that's an unrealistic situation. Guys don't announce it, they just taper off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:35 AM
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A woman who thinks that buttsex is likely to ruin her relationship needs to either cope (refuse buttsex) or change (where what provokes those feelings is that her SO is a slutshamer then the change is probably going to have to be deciding that it doesn't matter if the relationship ends) or cut and run (leave the relationship) Chosing any of these three responses is taking responsibility for her situation. A guy who doesn't like that his SO refuses buttsex needs to either cope (do without buttsex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 03:33 AM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 01:39 AM
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Arbitrary division of women into a sex class and non-sex class, and according of different positive and negative treatments to those classes, leads to women who try to find a sweet spot between the two, and this leads to at some stages either faking more sexual enthusiasm than exists or being too anxious to be fully sexual because of the potential consequences of going past the point at which their male partner can still comfortably see them as having some attributes of the non-sex class.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 01:34 AM
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Doesn't make a big difference, facebook is still a great place to go to draw the conclusion that men are scum.They could take down every instance of women saying "men are scum" immediately, but if they don't take down the large number of instances of men actually being scum anyone with the slightest amount of pattern recognition ability is still getting the message load and clear. That's why the likes of Clementine Ford don't really have to say "men are scum" they just have to say "a lot of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 09:29 PM
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Well yes, his money gives him options for dealing with this that those without money don't have... it also removes other options for dealing with this. I doubt, for example, he sees a lot of other people's normal family behavior. I'm sure that everyone around him who is an adult is always "on" and providing a performance for him when he's around. For someone who desperately needs to work out what is authentic and what is not that's terrible situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:55 AM
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I think it probably all goes back to his father more than to being a 'sperg. He's a high enough functioning 'sperg that I think normal problems he could work his way around or out of. What he's dealing with are needs, behaviors and beliefs that were installed in him so long ago and when he was so young that he can't remember them being installed and just thinks that how reality is. Then he encounters people with rather more normal needs, behaviors and beliefs and when it isn't working out he ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:36 AM
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From that link, I would tend to think he's "not lucky" because his father was a narcissist. That tends to instill any number of rather unfortunate personality quirks in a kid. What his damage is in particular I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 12:49 AM
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A lot of people are in a mess, those who start admitting to the nature of the mess they are in are probably a few steps closer to to solving the problem than those who don't. So is he really admitting to the nature of the mess he is in? IDK.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 12:35 AM
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I think you underestimate the trouble potential of a large population of unsatisfied males. I think you underestimate the sedating nature of porn and diabetes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:05 AM
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We don't need to do anything with them other than pay general attention to employment rates and financial support for the unemployed. They'll eat/drink too much sugar, sit on their arses too much, and keel over early because of that lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:52 AM
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Patriarchy's rationing of women advantaged low-value men, let them reproduce far more than they should have... but it wasn't too awful in terms of making people unhappy since people died fairly young and most people who made it to old age would have had two or three spouses. Also, life being hard meant that incompetent men still died earlier and left fewer kids. If your spouse was a dud you could always just wait and hopefully god would take the brute or shrew away and set you free. But the situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:03 AM
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Should correct itself soon enough, the unattractive ones don't leave as many offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:17 AM
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What is there more to learn at that point? Well a lot of people don't experience real bereavement until then. Then there is the care of aging and infirm parents. The raising of teenagers. The first genuine signs of one's own mortality. Starting to accumulate minor illness and disability that won't completely heal. Retirement planning becoming very real not just theoretical. A lot of lenders won't give you a mortgage any more once you're too old to pay it off before standard retirement age so whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:49 AM
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Oh I'm well past breeding age. If I ended up single for any reason I wouldn't even be looking. I do however have teenage daughters, and do my best to inform them about the world and how to avoid loser men and bad dynamics. I'm certainly still more relevant to the working of the marketplace than those guys over at the subreddits designed for unloved and unlovable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:27 AM
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I just got out of a debating-ish session regarding, to what I think is, a noticable trend(?) where relationships often consist of an older man and a younger woman (based on anecdotal evidence and my limited knowledge of history). There is no trend, a proportion of relationships have always been may-september. Now, during that discussion, and for as far as I can tell, (the) women didn't seem to agree/like that this trend exists. As I said, there is no trend. These relationships have always existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:40 PM
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Because it to some extent, due to a variety of different dynamics, works. Sunk cost fallacy. Betrayal bonding. Reluctance to risk having to deal with what might be there below the surface of the next stranger, will it be something even worse? Social consequences of breaking up an established relationship. And that's just the lying about bad stuff. If we're talking all sorts of deception, a lot of it is not to hide bad stuff but instead to hide how easily it is one is potentially manipulated. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:09 AM
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Of course. They don't stay low value for long. They fairly quickly become medium value, and if they have the right underpinnings (bone structure, neurotypical, etc) they become high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:54 PM
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I've seen more of the lipstick examples, probably because I've had a tendency to choose my personal friends from among women of modest means who aren't in life for material gain. Anyone who isn't always out for themselves in this world seems to be disproportionately found by people who will take them for all they've got... be it all their money or all their power over themselves. I disagree that those guys need to be smacked. Those guys need to be stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:53 PM
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The guys who say money doesn't matter to them include some guys who it does matter to very much but see a poorer wife as a chance to exercise a lot more power over their wife. So that's another way in which guys lie about what money means to them. One moment it is all "oh sweetie I don't care that you're a waitress, come live with me and quit work I'll take care of everything" and the next month it is "well this is my house and I pay for everything so it is my way or the highway, we are not gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:05 PM
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For the women who grew up in an age where a good amount of women married young as virgins and took on traditional female gender roles, Wut? I'm a mother of teens. We had more premarital sex in the eighties. Keep away from my teenagers or I'll cut your dick off. If you're chasing them you are low value and will make them unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:13 PM
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The reality is that the gains of age involve the passage of time and the loss of youth. Both for men and women. And there is the occasional person who got dealt a bad hand by youth that gets a better hand when age deals... but generally nah, those people are very much anomolies. Any guy who is relying upon that happening for him in terms of raw physical appeal is doing the equivalent of standing in the street with his mouth open waiting for the universe to feed him. It is the usual self-deceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:06 PM
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I've been immune to it my whole life and do whatever I want Yep. From what I've heard of you about yourself, you've walked the walk on that one. Fucking the bad boys is not generally approved of by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:13 PM
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Dude, nah, 17 year old girl with 20 year old man is still potentially within the realms of statistical differences in maturation. The other two scenarios are highly suspect. But y'know, as ABS says elsewhere in the replies to this post, sometimes a person just has to find their gonads and reproductively do what they feel they need to do within the law and their own morality even though a bunch of people are gonna think they're a giant ball of crap in doing it. People face these decisions all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:11 PM
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Women, almost universally, do not look better with age. Some have to grow into themselves from being a teenager and peak in their late 20s. Oh honey, no, no, they don't look better with age. With age they sometimes look smarter and sometimes have better provisioning capacity and sometimes have learned how to actually dress, but they sure as hell don't look better in the face or with their clothes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:01 PM
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I spent like $60 on Tinder "Super Liking" women today. When I learned about super liking, I wondered what sort of dumb cluck would think that's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:00 AM
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Well obviously young men and women look better than old men and women. Trouble is, they kinda suck to deal with on an equal basis if you've actually grown up yourself. So if you're 50 and actively chasing after 20 year olds for relationships it means that for whatever reason that suckiness to deal with isn't an issue to you, so either you've failed to grow up yourself and want to lumber someone who will grow up into a relationship with your perpetual immaturity, or you intend to exploit their na…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:39 AM
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Correct. Attraction is a feeling about a person. Material conditions influence our feelings about people. They do so in both simple and complex ways. Instead of considering the nature of attraction and its relationship to material conditions, consider respect and its relationship to material conditions. Have you ever had a boss you truly respected? Have you ever had a boss you were just meh about? Have you ever had a boss who you did not respect much but gave a poor facsimile of respect to just …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:33 PM
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To me it seems like those examples are contrary to the principle of “attraction is not negotiable,” after all, if varying conditions like that can make attraction appear, isn’t it negotiable after all? Nope. What "attraction is not negotiable" means is that a person can't just have a simple discussion and agree to be attracted to the person they are talking to, under certain specific conditions which the person they are talking to will then provide. Because even if they've estimated correctly wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 03:12 AM
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It is always gauche to declare that you're going after someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 10:21 AM
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I'd be fine with kids and the disabled plus a carer each jumping the queue as much as is possible...given they are likely to show up late on deck that's what it has to be, queue jumping rather than keeping everyone waiting till they arrive then putting them in first. But able bodied folks should be put in liferafts in a way that as far as is possible at short notice and in very little time distributes the human survival assets (everything from muscle to agreeableness to determination etc) is goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 10:19 AM
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Although it's not encoded in international maritime law, the custom is still observed today: The captain yells, "Women and children first! I don't think that happens so much as you think it does. However I'm pretty sure (as in haven't looked it up but I've never been told or heard different) that maritime law puts the ship's captain in charge of a bunch of stuff including emergency evacuations, and that in an emergency in international waters he's almost like a little king in terms of powers to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 04:23 PM
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Can you elaborate on this? There are guys who want virgins. Most of those guys are weird and many are very low value. They want virgins very badly. Sort of in that dangerous zone halfway between a fetish and a sense of entitlement. Admitting to being a virgin is like throwing a bucket of fish guts into shark infested waters then jumping right in after it for a swim. See this post. That's a post from TRP. If those guys were normal and functional they wouldn't be there. The average guy would happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:58 PM
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Are there ANY circumstances under which a woman might over-report her N-count, and what would be the implications if that possibility were there as well as underreportage? Virgins learn not to publicize the fact because it results in all sorts of weirdness from men.So there's plenty of times virgins try to give the impression their count is probably at least 1. So let's say you're in a bunch of friends and the "how many" topic gets raised. A virgin might say "I don't kiss and tell." and act very…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:32 PM
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Generally I just judge people who make it overt that they are going after someone specific rather than just keeping their eyes open and smoothly making a move when and how they see the chance. Some things are best kept as not a thing until they are a thing. Makes it so we don't gotta have opinions. Makes it so when you do make a move if you get turned down we can all act like no big deal was obviously spur of the moment. Outright telling people you're after someone, well can ya just NOT? That sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:08 PM
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If they are just a boyfriend or girlfriend, no kids or marriage yet? Sure it is fine to break up over sexual dysfunction. Nobody has done anything to make this a permanent thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 09:41 AM
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So girls aren't super judgemental about dating older men? Depends how much older. I mean a 22 year old with a 38 year old is always going to look way dodgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 09:10 AM
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Put my cast iron pan in the dishwasher and you're dumped. Use metal tools on my cast iron pan and you've thrown up a red flag. Cook a big old mess of bacon in my cast iron pan and you're a keeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 03:10 AM
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The idiots I knew finally stopped that shit when one guy offered to stop fucking another guy's wife if the other guy would let him do him instead. The denouement involved a meat cleaver, and a lot of running or so I've heard. Rejection of conventional morality was put on hold indefinitely. Maybe they'll just end up as skeevy retirees having hug and grope piles at the retirement home and shocking the Indian immigrant nurses, but I'm not holding my breath. Fandom used to be the place to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 03:07 AM
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If we're talking about monogamy why should age matter? Young with young, old with old Youth in women has intrinsic value. It makes babies possible. It is also attractive to men, including older men. If a woman is capable of getting over needing a guy to be attractive, then that's half the disadvantage in marrying an older guy gone. All she has to do is not care about the stigma and resign herself to a lonely old age in a nursing home and well there you have it, upwards pressure on the SMV and RM…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 03:02 AM
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Why not make it a wanky trifecta and discuss circumcision too, to make damn sure the whole post derails.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:56 PM
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IDK, how unattractive a guy are we talking about? I mean you've got to understand that personality also is a form of attractiveness to women. For some women, security is also an attractive thing. Strength, some women find that attractive. Status, Talent. Humor. If a guy genuinely has not got anything women find attractive and has been long-term unwilling to go get himself anything that women find attractive then maybe he's just an all-round shittty choice and lacks persistence and motivation. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/jI02MYwwUzM
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:21 PM
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At age 17 to 23 or so, it is easy enough to fall in with a crowd of idiots who are going through a phase of thinking they have rejected conventional morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:07 PM
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It's not until we loose our jobs that our "soul mates" turn up missing. And the flip side of it (which I have seen often enough) is when a guy who believes that money buys everything marries a girl who really likes him... then as time goes by and he gets more wealthy he figures that his money should buy him more and more disrespect of her, more and more control of her and his children, until her and the kids are seriously at a point where they find it hard to live any sort of normal existence. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:13 PM
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Elaborate what you are talking about related to guys? Lots of different things. You need to be more specific. What's important to you? Lots of different things. You need to be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:02 PM
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Why is it so hard for our society to deal with the fact that sex can have a transactional nature and given the natural imbalance of supply and demand in the SMP, men trade power and resources for sex while women trade sex for power and resources? Because that tends to be a conversation that starts with guys saying things like that and ends with them being incandescent with rage that they obtained all the $$$ and still nobody they find attractive wants to fuck them unless she's a dedicated profes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:26 AM
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That would be for values of chad/stacy that include anyone who has had sex ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:08 AM
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Well duh, most people are typical including being possessed of a degree of attractiveness, and this is not a subreddit devoted only to the unloved and unlovable. Go to the subreddits devoted to the unloved and unlovable if you want to only talk about their perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:21 AM
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Well if you're a virgin and your lifelong dream is to find one person with whom to try a list of a couple of hundred different sex acts that include many acts people aren't always keen on either before or after they've tried them, then chances are you're not going to have it easy going finding a person who you don't have to let go. And that isn't the fault of the people you choose to let go. You've chosen a dream that is actually kind of difficult to fulfill. Your idea of "enough" is in other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:19 AM
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Sexual acts are a direct manifestation of your attraction to the other person Actually I'm pretty certain that horniness for a specific sex act can happen before a particular target for fantasy or actual action is selected, and that people have been known to decide they want a sex act and then go out to find a partner who will do it. Also known as "yeah I think I just need my pussy licked"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:58 AM
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Any relationship is going to involve ending up not doing certain things because your partner can't stand either the reality or the idea of them. I mean this isn't only about sex. One day you're going to wake up and realise you'll probably never keep chickens... or live on a houseboat... or renovate an old house... or have a lead role in a play... and you'll also realise that your partner's pre-existing prejudices and preferences and limitations and choices are part of that dynamic that is leadin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:51 AM
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http://www.somethingawful.com/news/jacqueline-mackie-paisley/ had an opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:51 PM
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Doesn't address my point. If you take someone who is economically insecure and feels they aren't a contributing member of society and than just hand them taxpayers cash i very much doubt they will feel like they contributing members any more than before. Like I said, if a person is feeling useless there's plenty of unpaid work needs doing, they should go do it. Then they'll have a full belly AND be useful. If they've really fallen for this whole neocon blackpill bullshit, then maybe they could r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure that feeling useful to other humans is a thing that predates the existence of currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:44 PM
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Yeah ghosting happened. Phones got left off the hook over the part of the day it was polite to call someone, answer machines were used to screen calls, people's family and flatmates helped cover for them, people were "too busy to speak" and just tried to stopper down on communication any way they could, a whole lot of different ways to be absent were used to try to persuade someone to just go away and stay away. Exhibit A, Balwyn Calling, circa 1973 https://youtu.be/9aEPhmUx_qo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:20 AM
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At the side of the road, just say “oh sorry honey. This sucks.” The "this sucks" is at best likely to include a couple of unfed kids becoming increasingly frazzled and panicked and many hundred dollars of extra household expense. At worst it could include being stuck in genuine danger while waiting far longer than normal for assistance. I guarantee this will shift the dynamic is a positive way. You will be very surprised, even if things aren’t ‘perfect’. Nope. It brings us several steps closer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:27 PM
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Simply assume it is getting done. Make room for him to do it. So plan nothing else for that entire weekend just because he expressed a passing fancy to go camping that weekend, but did not actually say he'd plan anything? And then if he doesn't plan anything that's when you emasculate him and put him in emergency mode for screwing you over? Hmmm, no, that doesn't seem preferable to me at all. I doubt it would seem preferable to the dude it is done to once he's on the pointy end of it. If he forg…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:40 PM
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Probably a sign that you're leaving a lot of the planning and work up to other people, and not being thoughtful about how much time you leave them to get that planning and work done. You need to either do the lot, or reassess what your idea of timeliness is in a manner that takes into account other people. An example would be "Hey Trish, wouldn't it be great if we went camping as a family on the long weekend in March?" "That sounds great Rob, we haven't been camping since high school and the kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:51 PM
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This lifestyle sounds cool to me. Can he only pull it off because of his height/looks (6'4'' Caucasian) or balls of steel matter too? He no doubt reads people very well. If you could read people that well you could be a variety of things (used car salesman springs to mind, as does real estate agent, certain types of lawyer or law enforcement officer, politician, band manager etc) but he's chosen drugs and homelessness. A lot of the routes that aren't homelessness also involve getting laid a lot.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 05:31 AM
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So at what point do you think "dickish" would become "sexual misconduct"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:50 PM
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School tells them they are great, smart, brilliant for 15 to 18 years. Girls don't tend to agree and are all the time doing things that remind them of this... rejecting their requests for dates, occasionally becoming their girlfriend out of boredom not desire then treating them as less than totally desirable, that sort of thing. They don't want to give up even a small portion of the good feels that thinking of themselves as being at the top of the heap give them, so obviously it must be someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:48 PM
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A stern talking to for loudly having sex 30 inches away from a person who really does not wish to know about it and has made it known in the past they do not wish to know about it? And like, just UNDER them so if there's any smell they are gonna suffer it? Now I'm not suggesting a prison term for such conduct but I think it is worth considering that there's parts of the world where a prison term or a flogging is what such conduct would get you. Getting thrown out of shared accommodation seems sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:10 PM
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It is unacceptable behavior. They are adults, or very close to. Why would one excuse them by saying "it is college"? Surely if they are capable of attaining entry to college one should expect they be more capable of sustaining a decent standard of behavior than those who did not go to college and instead found jobs flipping burgers or working in factories?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:05 PM
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I've already read all the Rollo I'm ever going to bother to read kthx. He's really not that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:19 PM
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Have you ever slept in a top bunk? Having sex in the bunk below someone is involving them in your sexual act unless it is very very subtle indeed, likely too subtle for anyone to get off. Involving someone in your sexual act without express and explicit consent of all parties involved is a form of imposing upon someone in a sexual manner. Y'know how if we see a furry fetishist wearing their tail and collar out in public we all think "ewwwwww keep it in the bedroom"? Or if you're sitting next to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:16 PM
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I like Rollo, he really puts, in detail, what women are. He tells you what you want to hear, so you like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:02 PM
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Certain things can quite justifiably cause anyone, male or female, to wonder whether they've made the right choice. We have entire phases of relationship devoted to allowing people the chance to doubt that they've made the right choice and giving them the chance to gather more information to make good choices. We allow divorce precisely because people do sometimes make the wrong choice and it leads to awfulness. We have marriage counselors who make livings off dealing with the fact that people m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:24 AM
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IDK if Drew is a rapist or if he raped the girl who was in that lower bunk with him, but he definitely made a sexual imposition of some sort (maybe not legally definable but in terms of what we all know about where the boundaries should be) upon his roommate. Not a single doubt on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:25 AM
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There's flair for purple here with good reason. Cuts out a lot of bullshit, makes the subreddit a better place. If someone is going to be saying things that deeply offend one side and also saying things that deeply offend the other side, they're probably wise to call themself purple pill to cut out a load of stupid boring, repetitive, combative conversations with brain-dead muppets that start "how can you call yourself redpill(or bluepill)when you say things like..." Those conversations aren't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:31 PM
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Nope, you're a TRPer advocacy type, so you wholesale install the buttons in TRP men that enable them to feel hurt by something as harmless as being told they are husband material. Of course you're not going to take any responsibility for doing that, even though it results in pain for those men even when well meaning women (including their mothers, grandmothers, aunts etc) who mean a guy nothing but well say such things. But when a woman contemplates deliberately pushing one of those buttons you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 11:11 AM
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Aren't you a charmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 09:54 AM
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You build up slow to it and you'll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 06:04 AM
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Why unrealistic? It is an improvement in living standard for everyone. And all it takes is a bit of taxation and guys having to realize that making something of themselves is their own responsibility, they aren't going to be issued a woman to nag them into anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:46 AM
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Which is an argument for a comprehensive welfare state that provides sufficient material resources such that everyone can be housed, fed and kept in good health with a little left over for personal fulfillment. The woman who is working the job the unemployed dude would have had can pay taxes, the government can transfer funds to him on a regular basis and he can pay his rent. Sure as hell beats having to marry him and then spend a lifetime pretending to like sex with him, running a household in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:41 AM
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If you just want to be useful there is absolutely nothing stopping you. Useful is easy. Grab a broom and sweep the street. Go read to old folks in nursing homes. Volunteer when your friends need help shifting. Fix people's computers for free. This is not about feeling useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:26 AM
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Thought experiments... what a wanky term, used mostly by wankers. What it comes down to is if you're going to be covert about certain aspects of your motivations and methods, well that brings some advantages, but people's sympathy, empathy or desire for your wellbeing is not necessarily one of them and most people are going to feel just fine if someone does the same back at ya for shits and giggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:42 AM
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I'm not from America, I'm from Australia. Dating here is something we do prior to becoming boyfriend/girlfriend. If you say "I've got a date tonight" it doesn't mean you are going out with your SO, it means you're going out with someone newish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:25 AM
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We're talking serious things, right? Not trifles that "oh sorry" covers? To heavily and pointedly invoke shame or guilt (or indeed, any other major force of social control) to try to change another person's preferred courses of action in a major way is a fairly serious thing. This is evidenced in how most (but not all) people agonize about doing so beforehand and afterwards stress about whether they've done the right thing It isn't something that people should just do whenever they want and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 02:53 AM
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a successful, attractive man with options Does not in general describe TRPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:44 AM
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That dating is not a commitment? I think it says something about adult human nature, and the reality that we live considerably more complex lives than most other animals and that therefore pairbonding on sight or after a mere fifteen minutes of some sort of courtship dance is a truly ridiculous idea for us. Both men and women find utility in the dating period being one of strategic distance in which there is no obligation to do acts that progress the relationship forward or preserve it against o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:42 AM
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If you think I'm evil because I'd smack a guy's self-installed TRP buttons round bigtime by doing harmless things that only hurt because he's a TRP, and then laugh about it, then you've lived a very sheltered life indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:36 AM
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Men go for TRP the same way women go for making magic oil using Jezebel root.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:33 AM
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Don't need TRP to get a six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:32 AM
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How is red pill like having a big wart on a cock? Cos it can't be hidden forever in a normal relationship. Is it because you find it pathetic a man would have to learn how to be an attractive ladies man and you (like most women) want a man who "just gets it" without having to read an online community I don't think TRP is particularly good at helping guys understand how to be attractive. In other news, women are predictable and water is wet. In other news, TRPers gonna cult, TRPers gonna whine, T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 07:53 PM
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She probably also assumed the age difference, the sudden progression to sex before they really knew each other, and the fact she'd saved up a bunch of money to come to the city to make something of herself (rather than stay in an ordinary job and take her pick of the local guys) would be a big big clue that she wasn't going to be all about settling down and restricting her options for a long time yet, and when she did it wouldn't be for an average guy like him. He was just to take the edge off a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 07:20 PM
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Friend of mine in his mid twenties who got together with a 19 year old girl who'd just moved in to the city from a country area. They messed about casually for some months but she kept putting off things like meeting most friends of his etc then she got work and he got upset that the work was more important in her life than him, she'd drop him at a moment's notice if something work related came up suddenly. Also she wanted large parts of her life not to include him... he has a house but she show…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:54 PM
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I don't think the bit I was attracted to would be the red pill bit. The red pill bit is like a gigantic wart on a guy's cock in terms of his attractiveness. You don't know it is there... until you do know it is there.... then ewwwww. And I thought about leaving alone YOUR ugly behavior to intentionally hurt a dude, which just a few short hours ago you might have been interested in, That's what dating is for, to find these things out and reject the rejects. This is why it involves very little com…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:38 PM
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Dating is not a commitment or obligation. I owe him only marginally more than I owe any random. I don't owe him not calling him "husband material", not telling him I'd never have been attracted to him when I was 18, not going on any sort of holiday alone or with a female friend etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:24 PM
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What would that be your reaction if the Red Pill philosophy had taken a guy who was weak, needy, and insecure who you would never consider getting naked and fucking to the guy that since he was your BF had attracted you greatly enough that you gladly jumped him at every opportunity and woke up dreaming about him doing it when he was away? The OP told me I was dating the dude, not that I was in love with him. Kind of a big thing for the OP to omit? Dating is just, like, dating. You stop saying yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:06 PM
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Well if he's serious about it, not just trolling the subreddit for shits and giggles, then he's gotta go. Only question is, how much do I fuck over his mind first? TRP installs some fairly large buttons in guys, I'll make sure to push a bunch on my way out. And never ever tell him I'd found out what he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:04 PM
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Hmmm. I lost house and many of our mutual friends. The friends had known him longer and one of the queen bees of the group had always hated me so that was that. No kids in the marriage so I was spared that. You've just got to realise that in the grand scheme of things, a great many human beings have been through a great deal worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:42 PM
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From what I know of them, at the doses necessary for bodybuilding they still involve virilizing effects that most women quite reasonably wish to avoid. It is impossible to fairly compare male and female aesthetic body building because the number of different performance enhancing options reasonably available for men who like to be masculine is so much greater than those available for women who like to be feminine. Simple as that. Of course there's going to be more ripped guys. Of course a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:01 AM
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Maybe the ratio would be more to your liking if we put a bullet in the head of every gym bro who has used the sort of performance enhancing drugs that women quite sensibly avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:58 AM
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Nobody gets to just waltz on in and set themselves up in my life without thorough vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 12:50 PM
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You'll likely make someone a less than stellar husband then an annoying but profitable child support payer one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:48 PM
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Oh well, enjoy your attempts. Better get a move on so you're not searching for a 25 year old when you're 45. My guess is that unless you can find an outlier then you're in for short but interesting marriage then a long time licking your wounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:47 PM
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When someone is actually willing to leave it ain't a bluff. They have rejected the "me down" position in favor of the "me out" position. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:42 PM
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Hah. You said you look good, but you didn't mention age. Lemme guess, you're in your forties and if you were looking you'd be looking for a twenty-something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:35 PM
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what I mean is you are making demands in a situation He's not going to have to put up with demands forever. Nagging to get what I want is an unreasonable burden on me, it isn't fun and no man is worth making that my life. If I don't like the dynamic then the demands will end with me leaving. If you aren't bringing an equivalent amount into the relationship, you should expect to be taking a submissive role Well you see, the thing is I regard my vision of home and family and relationship as being …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:30 PM
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This would be a situation in which a man is marrying down in SES Usually a guy who marries down in SES is already completely cashing in the difference by it being a favorable age and/or looks match for him. Unless of course he's filthy rich, in which case he decorates one wing of the house and she decorates the other wing, and the servants do all the work so this is all a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:12 PM
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Well of course if you don't own the place you shouldn't do things that drastically reduce resale value. That's just common sense, I mean you shouldn't do such things even if you do own the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:03 PM
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and you are living there free of charge, doing the housework could be seen as simply earning your keep, I'm not a maid, and if I was I certainly wouldn't be a maid for whom fucking the boss is an integral part of keeping her position as a maid. That's a really unsexy situation. The sort of thing that puts sand and centipedes in my vagina. If I fell into this situation (huh? maybe I wasn't paying attention?) I would at first be in denial (he can't really mean he won't tolerate that fluffy cushion…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:30 PM
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Same dealio. This is something I will not budge on. Responsibility without control is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:28 PM
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Yeah houses and house stuff bring out all the feels. Not all the feels are going to be rational. 1994 Two years after I left a disaster of a marriage and started up with the future father of my kids.. . and I'm out of the house because I'm letting him have it pretty much for about 5% of what my share of the equity (which I earned by working a job... I wasn't a stay at home) actually is. Sure he cheated on me but I'm the one who up and left, might as well cut him a break eh? I'm living in a tiny …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:40 PM
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If I'm doing most of the housework then I'm going to choose most of the colours, the furniture, the bedding etc. Same as if I'm doing most of the cooking I will set the menu. If I'm doing most of the laundry I choose the laundry detergent, the clothes hangers, the washer etc. If I'm the one stopping the house from filling up with clutter I decide what clutter is. This is one of the perks of the job. Without it you are just a maid, not a homemaker. If he's unhappy we discuss why it is he's wantin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:14 PM
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Well, that's a pretty reasonable thing to say, but it would take a lot of mental effort to suss all that out. "Mental effort" in this case is what TRP knows as hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 02:22 AM
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And this is why it has become necessary to frontload the deal for women by having on offer rings and honeymoons and big froofy dresses and huge parties where the woman is the centre of attention and gets lots of presents. The deal itself isn't that great but at least she gets the set of steak knives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:41 PM
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Everyone might leave you, there's this thing called death, there's dementia and other illnesses that take people away. Someone who doesn't define or judge you isn't actually seeing you or they have no moral or ethical basis... does that really sound perfect to you? Someone who does not seek out their own selfish goals at least part of the time is likely to end up a very unhappy and unrealized individual. Talking to you every day is an easy enough thing, you just have to reside together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:35 PM
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It's damned near perfect. It is a perfect reflection of what you personally wish were true. That's all. Also were you using illicit substances when you had this "revelation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:27 PM
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Sometimes you don't want to hear it, sometimes they don't want to tell it. And there is seldom any compelling reason to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:42 PM
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I can't see how you got to your conclusions using that comment. Were you using illicit substances?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 03:29 PM
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Yeah that was coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:20 AM
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Go your own way. Over there. Not here. Here is our way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:57 AM
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As an aside, I came to this idea when I saw it used repeatedly in another thread by a bloop and I just replaced "patriarchy" with "natural selection" and it actually made a lot more sense TRPer finds something he thinks makes sense if he just alters one word in it to one completely different word, doesn't actually show us what he found, doesn't even explain it in detail. it makes them look foolish. It makes them look like And then he insultingly tells a group of people that they seem a certain w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:55 AM
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You should never ask someone why they are still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:51 AM
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Heh, I'm a mother of daughters, I GIVE advice. Most guys won't make good husbands. This is the simple fact of the matter... most men are some combination of too lazy, too poor, too unsexy, too bad at relationships, too self-absorbed, too juvenile. "Getting in first" is only going to work if you are at quite a tender age a relentlessly good judge of character as it will emerge facing challenges you only dream about now. Getting your family to help you choose isn't going to do much good, they inev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:23 AM
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My father and brother need to stay shut up too. I'm sure your mother will help you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:31 PM
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And I wonder why men don't open up. I don't want men who I barely know to open up to me about their blue balls. Love the sexism btw. eyeroll
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:29 AM
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I honestly would not waste my time. Most of these men don’t actually want sympathy or empathy, they just want sex. This. They want sex. If you're the one they want sex from and they ask for sympathy they are trying for a pity fuck. If you aren't the one they want sex from and they ask for sympathy then chances are they are trying to enlist you to apply social pressure to reduce the rejection behavior of the sort of women they do want sex from... they want you as a woman to agree they've been tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:47 AM
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He's 32 and doing dumb things because of alcohol and talks about stopping drinking but hasn't stopped yet, he needs the label "alcoholic".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:25 AM
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Ok, but do you truly believe its reasonable that someone should die for forced digital penetration? I mean how do you view Brock's crime in comparison with Jerry Sandusky? or lets say priests who sexually abuse little boys? I think that it is unreasonable not to discourage revenge killings, even the sort of revenge killings that many people feel a great deal of sympathy for, in a modern society that has a large population and where most people don't know each other. Killings are just in general …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:35 AM
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Oh I'm fine with there being serious deterrents to committing extrajudicial killings. Can't have people just killing other people as a general rule. I just don't think there would be anything necessarily unusual or wrong with someone from the victim's family or social circle who kills Brock, or indeed with the victim herself if she hunts Brock down and kills him. They were an ordinary person with ordinary feelings who got pushed to the limit by someone else's extraordinarily awful behavior. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:07 AM
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I think the desire to seek violent and extreme retribution for acts of sexual violation against others in their community is a deep seated and instinctual one present in a large number of people across all philosophies, political stances and religions. Discussing it from outside the experience of being in a community that is being deeply affected by a specific criminal act is maybe not the best way to get at what people really feel and want, from a distance we can all say "yes that penalty shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:51 PM
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I know 2 alcoholic lawyers, their careers are less than stellar. And they both got their early careers out the way before getting on the grog.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:59 PM
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That's not enough to get anywhere close to justify being a 32 year old alcoholic still in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:32 AM
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I’m a nationally ranked chess player So what range is your ELO rating in? Under 1000, 1001 to 1200, 1201 to 1400, 1401 to 1600, 1601 to 1800, 1801 to 2000, 2001 to 2200, 2201 to 2400, 2401 or above?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:21 AM
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If you're looking for mediocre results, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:59 AM
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The world is more like effort x talent, not effort + talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:57 AM
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The educated career women have the money to go a more standard long distance relationship route to marriage, involving lots of travel to meet and spend time and lots of communication over several years, they really aren't mail order brides any more than anyone else who starts a long term relationship that way. As for the less attractive girls (from what I know, Western dudes prefer the porcelain dolls as much as Eastern dudes do) I seriously doubt anyone in the parts of the world where mail orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:33 AM
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she sees me as weak and doesn’t respect me Was what you did respectable? Was it strong? Why should she see you as other than you are? I don’t want to jump through hoops for her and Don't. The world does not care. Some other guy will have the sense not to go laying out a hoop course for himself by cheating. Should I try to make up? Would it even be a good idea? No point if you're not going to make the effort to discover the joys of self discipline. Look, in twenty years you'll have the life your …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 03:14 AM
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Women are attracted to narrative. The narrative that goes "and then I paid for another person to pretend I've got more sexual worth than I actually have" sucks, it is very unsexy. It is just an unappealing story. A woman is better off cultivating unusually strong fantasies and then masturbating to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:12 AM
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Girls who marry Western guys from internet dating sites are typically not the traditional girls. This. They are adventurers, opportunists, risk takers. They are girls whose parents can't restrain them or whose parents don't find them worth caring if they disappear forever to another country beyond the ability of them to do anything to look after each other. They are girls pretending to be younger and purer than they are. They are girls with a past. They are girls who are looking for a brand new …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 02:03 AM
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What I mean by random is wanting to do a non-sedentary activity but not having a burning passion for it. Think "going to the movies" vs "OMG THE NEW STARWARS MOVIE I GOTTA GET PREMIERE TICKETS". You resent the extra physical activity involved in driving to the movie theater, walking from your car to the movie theatre, buying tickets, walking back to your car and driving home? Look I can get why a person might not want to go to the movies. It costs a bit more than staying home, you need to make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:00 AM
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My local socialist group voted every year to abolish capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:37 AM
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I'm not American so I couldn't even begin to say how to make a Black American man look upper middle class. But you are right, that is what he needs to be aiming for. Unless of course, he can look like and is willing to aim to look like a successful musician, sportsman or gangster. Ah what a shitty world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:35 AM
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Well it is all quite obvious if one thinks about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:44 PM
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Three decades ago the Most Threatening Black Man looked like his ancestors came from the west coast of Africa, now the Most Threatening Black Man looks like his ancestors come from around the vicinity of the Red Sea in the east.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:43 PM
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The way inheritance worked had a lot to do with it. There were considerable numbers of people who were technically nobility, but knew that unless there was an epidemic that killed a lot of people or they could do something truly spectacular, their branch of the family was destined to fall not rise. Sustaining their own social and economic position and that of a wife must have seemed just about the limit of their talents to many younger sons. I should imagine a great number of love matches came a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:48 AM
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There are no prizes. All the "prizes" in life are just more work and responsibility. Then you die. There is no comfort other than behaving decently in the face of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:04 PM
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Eh, I can't remember... did he say he was in the USA? I think Europe is different to the USA. Europe is being swamped with enough asylum seekers of all religions that they have started to hate them all and by extension hate even legit immigrants from those regions. The USA is mostly concerned about Islam and people from Mexico and countries south of Mexico. Anyhow, the USA is full of people of all colours who wear crucifixes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:54 PM
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You've got a lot to work with (height, broad shoulder structure, good teeth, educated and employed) and its just a matter of making sure you don't look like a recent islamic immigrant, packing on enough muscle to not look like a beanpole, and finding opportunities to be around girls while looking like a bit more of a man of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:49 PM
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I think you've facially got that look some people have in the part of the world that goes is an arc through Sudan, South Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia, Ethiopia. People (even black Americans at times) are scared of immigrants and refugees on many levels right now,and pinging people's radar as a possible islamic refugee from an African nation is doing you no favors. Doesn't matter that once you open your mouth you speak with the right accent, they've already had a moment of fear and xenophobia. Add to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:38 PM
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thoughts? Well, since I've personally seen plenty of women trying to help guys through depression I am forced to conclude that either that help doesn't work or that if it does work the guys are unwilling to remember and acknowledge it. So my thoughts are that if this accurately reflects how much men feel their girlfriends have helped this is a cautionary tale... put as much effort into your depressed boyfriend as you can in order to have a boyfriend who is no longer depressed, but in the end you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:25 AM
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Did you meet many generous women in your life? Yeah. They gave up most of their opportunities, time and identity to raise families.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:19 AM
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not under the impression it is your HUSBAND (in some cases this has been extended to boyfriend) So the interpretation of the law is shifting already. Really there's no point between "boyfriend" and "a person she is actually willing to fuck casually" where there's a clear cut off, there's a smooth continuum there. How far will it shift? I had a look at the link /u/Kralee provided. So it would probably be prosecuted as being some form of sexual abuse instead. Whatever. We all know a guy who does t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 06:50 AM
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I think it goes for everyone really, not just celebs. Even casual hookups, if someone goes off to a dark broom closet to fuck Steve and instead Bob sprays himself with Steve's aftershave and goes in and answers yes to "Is that you Steve?" then Bob's a rapist if he says "yes" and then goes ahead as Steve. He knows the person he is fucking was giving consent to Steve, not to him. He knows he does not have consent. The same is not true for things like claiming to be a CEO, claiming to be single, cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:35 AM
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Not even when it was a credible impersonation in terms of appearance, voice, circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:03 AM
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how do you think men would react? The usual reaction is whining, can't see this being any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:49 AM
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There's only a certain number of forms I've heard of successful rape by deception prosecutions taking. Plus there's two forms that makes sense would be included but I've never heard of a case of them coming to court. The first is if you lie by claiming or pretending to be a specific real person. You sneak into her bed and pretend to be her husband. You tell her you are Johnny Depp. That sort of thing. She gave consent to a real person who actually exists, but didn't happen to be you. The second …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:29 AM
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That low value guys need to whine less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:48 PM
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for me value is the actual features, girls who are good at make-up do better with men Then date girls who hate makeup but would usually be able to get a guy as attractive as you only if they wore makeup. They'll be ecstatic about the match.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:24 PM
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For me personally it's 100% okay if a woman wears make-up, it's just that a lot women with enough money to spend on weekly make-up and hair by professionals etc become arrogant and vain "arrogant and vain" is usually guyspeak for "knows their market value well enough to reject guys based on it"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:02 PM
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Hmmm, the makeup version being good does add a bit of value both to RMV and SMV. Not the same thing as always being that value, but still an improvement. RMV: Who would you rather introduce to your friends, workmates and family as your girlfriend... that 3 who can and does become a 6 on a daily basis, or a 3 whose lack of prettiness is of a sort that only makes it to 4 with cosmetic help? I mean clearly a women who becomes a 6 through makeup is not the same thing for RMV as a 6, but she's better…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:44 PM
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That's also known as "expecting free stuff." It is known as "if this totally optional social event was your idea and to meet your desires, you can't spring surprise payment on me after the event, without it being a serious breach of etiquette" It's almost like your experiences are completely irrelevant when talking about statistical facts. Even if what you say are facts are true (other than y'know, the results of just one study that we are reading one analysis of and don't have the actual study …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:20 PM
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There most certainly is an expectation that they expect free money. They expect dates they are invited on to get paid for... but the reality is that a great many relationships happen without that dating process ever really occurring. Quite clearly as a gender women see a man making a cold approach with an offer of a date as only ons of many ways to the end result of a relationship or casual sex. Nope. The problem is that unlike men, women will just go without if they don't get exactly what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:04 PM
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and you will feel really good because a drug is pumping dopamine into your brain. Which is half the battle. People eat to feel good because food sets off neurotransmitters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:52 PM
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Women are at their funniest when they are criticizing men. https://youtu.be/Y4oydSZTAns
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 06:14 AM
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If you've got financial assets of your own you've got an advantage in getting serious attention from divorced men of about your asset level who are looking for someone who if they marry then divorce from it isn't going to be too dire. If you've got no financial assets of your own then you're probably going to have to go for a guy who has never had much dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:45 PM
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Working class men don't care, but there's some middle class and higher men who would feel a little embarrassed introducing a woman to their family and friends unless she could say something she does/did that is in line with things they do or have done. I think it doesn't give you an advantage in who will fuck you but it gives an advantage in how quickly some men will take you home to meet mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:21 PM
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Mental health care for anyone who thinks he or she needs it for whatever reason. I don't think anyone needs education on this, the general belief that the first is "special" is still out there and yet most women still prefer to have a few lovers instead of marrying their first. They see value in getting in some experience. All the "but the first is special" you can scream at them isn't going to alter that they see value in having had several.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:07 PM
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I'm not convinced it reduces pairbonding but if it did I think reducing a tendency to instantly and irrationally pair bond would be a feature not a bug. If a man is lacking in substance she won't end up stuck with him and hopefully will cast him aside before any kids are brought into the relationship. Good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:59 PM
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If you believe very hard and are a very good girl, there will be a long bearded white-haired old man waiting to greet you when you make your escape, sitting on a cloud and handing out slices of pie while harps are played. Just kidding. Nobody gets out alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:19 PM
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I thought TRP was big on saying that reproductive strategy is amoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:33 PM
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Yeah not much US style pick-up and dating in Australia. Wasn't much right back to the seventies. Maybe it is our outdoor and cafe culture that does it? If you want to meet more people you get out of your house, go somewhere and do something, if you want to get to know them better you invite them to a time and place you and your friends hang out. Sometimes that gets you a SO, sometimes it just gets your friends an intro to someone you found cool and maybe one of your friends ends up with them. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 12:31 PM
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Someone else is already citing stuff so I direct you to them. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/79ad43/is_womens_growing_sexual_freedom_positive_or/dp1t85t/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:50 AM
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Yeah it is fucked up. And of course some of them are so fucked up that even people similar to them won't tolerate them, and some of them become more fucked up as they age, so putting them together into intentional communities (which is where my first thoughts on this go) wouldn't work either. I think maybe some of the worst of them used to end up in monasteries prior to the current era. That way they'd have company, they'd have work, they'd have food, and someone who would use all the force of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:30 AM
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IDK. I think for many of them it isn't just not having the sex and not having an intimate companion. I think that maybe those guys don't tend to make reliable friends, and breeding a bunch of kids under the old laws of marriage would mean they've got people involved in their lives who just can't escape. A wife, two kids, two spouses of their kids, four grandkids... that's like nine people who won't all completely bail just 'cos the guy is boring and whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:52 AM
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Even people who adapt eventually die. Them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:25 AM
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I don't know personally very many women who have cheated. One co-worker in my teen years who I guess you could call reckless/adventurous in nature, she cheated on her guy with guys who were pretty much the same as her guy, I guess just because ain't nobody gonna tell her what to do. Oh and one of my daughters' school friends went on to unilaterally decide that her high school relationship to a pleasant and attractive guy was now poly... she just wanted variety before she settled down as far as I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:00 AM
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Relationships are difficult when housing is expensive. There's been a steady trend towards people being able to afford worse housing than they used to, both as singles and as couples. A couple the likes of who ten years ago could have afforded a crappy little apartment (and maybe 30 years ago could have afforded a dilapidated single storey row house) now have to look at finding a share house situation. A single who used to be able to afford a share house situation now ends up in a lodging house …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:02 AM
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Most of the unhappiness in the young that I see is due to economic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:57 PM
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It really is AMAZING how the Halo Effect is at work here. You see an ugly dude, and you immediately assume he's unskilled and that his body language is wrong. It isn't an assumption... I know that is a damn clumsy attempt at what the other guy is doing. You're defending being shallow again. You're trying to find some small aspect you can BS into rationalizing that "being shallow is okay! :D" I'm just not showing an absolutist attitude to shallowness. Humans are all at times shallow, but most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:56 PM
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Plenty of funny lonely dudes, plenty of lonely guitar-playing dudes. It's almost as if women think everything a hot guy does is good. Plenty of average to fuggo dudes doing well sexually out of playing guitar. But admittedly you also need some social skills. Surely you can be good at something other than complaining about how boys were rude to you in computer class in middle school, or how hard it is to live in your shoes. generally I don't volunteer the info about the computer club unless peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:50 PM
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Usually it is the jokes that make the guy hot, the guitar skills that make the guy hot, the prettiness that makes the guy hot, the muscles that make the guy hot. Surely you can be good at something other than hectoring people online?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:40 PM
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You're literally ASSUMING tons of things about the guy just because he's ugly. This is EXACTLY what the "Halo Effect" is about. I'm assuming them because he's clearly got a significant aspect of body language wrong. Making comments about appearance at work is like walking close to the edge of a cliff... you shouldn't do it unless you are skilled. The "deflection" comes from you trying to change the subject instead of addressing what I said. What, cos I didn't say "women who do that are shallow" …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:38 PM
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The problem is that women expect to be paid in exchange for their time. That's it. They want the benefits of equality while also receiving special privileges. That has to stop. If there is an expectation (I don't think there is in this case, not in most women) then that expectation will go away if it is reliably not met. Stop inviting women on dates or when you invite them make sure to point out that you won't be paying for them and make sure to tell them how much this thing YOU PLANNED AND THER…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:31 PM
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The point is, you're thinking the guy is "groping" just because he's unattractive. I don't think he is groping, his motion is gropey. I think he is visually implying touching in a way that the standard waving behaviors just don't. The other guy has chosen a gesture that says "look at you" not "touch at you". And from what I know of guys like the other guy, he's probably got his eye contact down to a fine art, not lingering long enough to make it seem like he's looking for a sexual response. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:02 PM
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You do realize it's hard twist your hand like that, right? You cant really comfortably stretch your hand and fingers with a mid-height hand greeting. I can do it, and I'm not particularly flexible. Obama in that pic is likely waving at a crowd, you're allowed to leave your fingers flexed in that case, in Britain they even call it the "royal wave" cos the queen uses it when waving at crowds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJQRTQJL7jQ Then is it fair to call 7\10 women who want 8-9\10 men shallow…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:42 PM
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The ugly dude's making a "hey" greeting hand sign, and you see a "gropey motion". The waving "hi" gesture has straight fingers if you're going to hold it at that angle while looking at someone. If a 5\10 woman only wants a 10\10 guy, that's unreasonable. Since when has there been an obligation to only want reasonable things? Being a guy with a value of 2/10 and not actually wanting women who are 2/10 is unreasonable and that's fine... so long as he pays the price for his own unreasonableness and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:23 PM
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Moreso, that's because whenever a hot guy "harasses" a woman, she'll accept or ignore it. https://i.imgur.com/27nQKVI.jpg fat guy's hand is in the gropey motion. Other guy's hand is in a "look at you" gesture not a "feeling you" gesture. body language makes a difference. You could say that too many low value WOMEN try to get with high value guys, but nobody bats an eye about that. Really makes you think. yes they send out IOIs that are usually only detected if they are being watched for specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:59 PM
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It's also interesting how you're implying that it's "Low value guys" who do that. HMMMM, kinda suspicious. That's because it almost always is. The high value guys? In relationships or will simply go find someone who actually wants them. Look, you're allowed to not take care of yourself, not put effort into yourself and be low value. It comes with a price. You should pay that price yourself. Too many low value guys try to offload paying the price for their own laziness onto high value women... wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:30 PM
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Personally I found a drop at perimenopause then a larger drop at actual menopause. But it is really no big deal, by then you should have done whatever you felt you needed to do with your womb and ovaries, and a large number of women you might otherwise be in competition with are dropping out of the market not because they can't handle competing but because they also have done what they needed to do and now they don't need to do more they find putting up with men's shit to be intolerable. I mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:24 PM
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Way out of line even if she consented, they were on shift and in the process of dealing with her having offended. This is what you get for making a job that offers any sort of power low-pay then hiring low-value people to it. The job should pay reasonably well, and should not be hiring people who can't get anything else. Desperate idiots with no options are not what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:07 PM
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You've no freaking idea nor do you wish to get any sort of idea. Life as an attractive young woman is more like... OMG I can't stay overnight at a friend's place after a party.... not even in a spare bedroom which is supposedly a private location in the house, unless I know the trustworthiness of all the guys there, for fear one of them will creep into my room and start molesting me as I sleep. I choose a guy to be with and he's just an ordinary guy and member of my social circle, but then three…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:57 PM
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I'm not the OP, but I think he means that when women give pity sex to a guy, it would be from a position of empathy. Empathy is generally done without expecting anything in return. If they were the sort of guys that evoked empathic reactions they'd have girlfriends already. BUT...going by what you've proposed, would women even be happy to win a night with Johnny Depp or Chris Hemsworth? It's always seemed to be like women don't value getting one-off sex with a hot person the way men do. Some wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 09:45 AM
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Was this the intent of purge week?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 01:02 AM
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All the way for every concept it is true for. TRP is mostly about repackaging select bits of the things one learns from being into one's own culture for guys who aren't really into culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 12:55 AM
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I think we do...well at least in Australia we do. Unhappiness is more visible now than it was prior to the mid seventies but less common. A lot of sheer misery was tied up in families where they would never ever ever admit it to anyone, now the misery is more visible, and people get a better chance of using their intelligence to avoid falling into traps they see other people fall into and when they are in unhappy situations they see how other people have managed to do something about their unhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 12:06 AM
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People from this decade are at most 7 years old. Hi, I'm from the seventies. Y'know, back before all this sexual freedom stuff really took off properly for the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:45 PM
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And this is the point at which your tree melds fully into the forest and becomes worthy of no individual consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:18 PM
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monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:54 PM
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Point is the forest is not a big deal, relatively. And hereby we find the inherent lack of empathy for attractive women involved in being a low value man. Of course having to deal with a huge accumulation of anything unwanted is a very big deal. If one seagull does a shit on your car while it is parked in the employee parking lot then so what, if 30,000 seagull do a shit on your car then it isn't the same thing at all, you're going to want to start either killing seagulls or making their lives s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:43 PM
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Positive, very positive. Contraception and abortion? Far fewer sad kids whose primary caregiver does not want them. Easy divorce? Fresh starts in life made from unhappy marriages. Employment for women? Greater productivity, bigger tax base. Sluts and fuckboys? For some that is living the dream. Welfare state paid for from the bigger tax base? Good for everyone, a healthier and happier population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:10 PM
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I think if we had it our way most men would have multiple partners. Since that's frowned upon some guys just go the multiple fwb route Multiple FWB is mathematically possible, multiple faithful partners is only possible for most men in a population if we kill a lot of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:01 PM
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If you are GYOW and I know about it chances are one of two things has occurred. You are a close friend and I know rather a lot about your life, or you're doing GYOW by hanging around women telling them how you are GYOW because they are terrible and just in general trying to get revenge on people who are going about their business not caring about your personal romantic choices. The first? That's fine. The second? Yeah hope any sub you use as a base to brigade from gets deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:56 PM
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I never said women should accept catcalling or actual harassment/physical assault. The existence of catcalling, harassment etc is in many ways unable to be detached from the existence of the other stuff when it is done (as usual) in a manner that does not show appropriate and effective care or concern for impact it cumulatively has on a woman's wellbeing. Same thing, just a slightly more bold manifestation of it. Guys may look at what they themselves are doing and see trees. Women look at what g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:49 PM
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I was born in 1970. I was very much into electronics and computer type stuff as a kid, owned those Dick Smith funway sets and loved any mention of it in class. My highschool had a big clunky old computer with a card reader, used to print off results on that wide tractor feed paper. Lotsa fun. Then in 1983 (or was it 84) my school introduced a room full of computers... bbc computers with three dumb terminals per actual computer. And they started a computer club one lunch time a week. I showed up …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:34 PM
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She isn't. There's several complex sets of stereotypes and underlying assumptions at work all the time, and whether someone gets more or less benefit of the doubt depends upon the story and who the audience is and the context in which the audience is being told the story. Tell the same story to a different audience, different reaction. Tell two different stories to the same audience, different reaction. Tell the same story to same audience under different conditions of their relationship to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:57 PM
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Well of course there would be a selection. Some women like funny guys, some like talented musicians, some like pretty boys, some like muscular men... there's actually rather a lot of things women like very much. We're better than men that way. So when are you going to set up a token economy like that? I mean if one really cares for socially rejected virgin men it seems the perfect thing to do... one donation of a night's time by a male celeb could lead to a huge number of V cards handed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:42 PM
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With zero self-awareness about how it would be like on the other side. You know how it must suck to be poor? yeah sure you do. Now imagine you've got a halfway decent job but nothing great and there are beggars everywhere, some of them threatening, many "friends" of yours trying to extract large sums of money from you after years of pretending that wasn't what they are about and walking off in disgust and often actual anger when you won't give them tens of thousands of dollars, people walking pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:39 PM
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Ouch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:23 PM
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The pity-sex guy, on the other hand, will require a restraining order. Why don't you feel sorry for meeeeeeee any more, whyyyyyyyyy? Why no pityyyyyyyyyy any more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:47 AM
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This too. Both of my relationships involved my choosing a man from my social circle and other men from my social circle being a bit miffed and sulky that I didn't choose them, didn't see them as better, more deserving etc. And those were both long term relationships not casual things. I can not possibly imagine how much fuss me dishing out fucks amd blowjobs to guys just because they are pitiful would have resulted in. In fact the only woman who did something like that in my friendship circle wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:29 AM
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Money is fungible, preservable, savable, exchangeable, accumulable. Pity ain't, it is a fleeting sensation and can so easily be totally ruined, for example, if the recipient of it behaves badly or doesn't seem to get as much out of it as you thought they should pity can end up a very bitter unpleasant experience. A girl can't fuck a dozen low value men then take all that pity she's shown and go to a hot guy who normally would ignore her and have him show pity. On the contrary, if she fucks a doz…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:14 AM
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I'm guessing there's more women who have done a sex act out of pity than ones who have done a sex act for a negotiated $ price.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:45 AM
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The men in all those catcalling videos do not even look remotely as disgusting. Women are less visual, more narrative in their excitability. Hence more written erotica and less porn vids. Catcalling guys are narratively repulsive, they are writing a story that is every bit as bad in its own way as those women are visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:33 AM
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To have people wanting to penetrate you who you are not attracted to, and those people are pushy about it is awful even if those people belong to a gender that contains those other individuals you are attracted to. Imagine if everywhere there was one or more of these http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/729593.jpg with a dirty great strapon just waiting for any excuse. Awww honey, short on the rent today?Well I've got a special way you can pay it. Feeling a bit woozy darl? I can tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:35 AM
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There's only a very limited number of situations in which pity sex is going to do anything for a guy other than make him more pitiful in the long run. That kinda dulls the warm glow of having helped someone, just like giving money to a junky leaves you aware that you've probably just helped them get a bigger habit and made a rod for your back because the junky will be back for more and more. Those occasions on which pity sex will not make a guy more pitiful do happen sometimes between friends...…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:14 AM
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Pretty much this. If a lion is acting like it is lame, injured, unable to hunt? That's a lion that has as much, possibly more, reason to gobble up any gazelle that pauses, hesitates, gets close.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:16 AM
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Like...don't start bitching about how many men you have to reject every day because those men have it worse. Pffft. If those men had to daily face a barrage of men exactly like them wanting to attain sexual penetration of them, most of those men would be bitching pretty damn hard about the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:13 AM
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Nah, more like before they start they think "Well what should I really be telling strangers?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:36 AM
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They hold back on info in that particular situation because that lets them control the situation... for their own safety yes, but also for their own benefit. I can assure you that travel is not the only thing they talk about to their actual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:00 AM
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IKR. If they'd go picket something at least I'd know where to go find them and tell them they are sacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:56 AM
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It is as if he knows nothing about the history of any societal struggle, and therefore has no idea of what can be sustained and what can't in the way of protest and picket.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:55 AM
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Yes, I come from a blue collar background and have dated plenty of blue collar guys. I know men in trades who have like a two year diploma who are successful because they are hard working and smart. That's one of the patterns I've noticed... nurses with top tier tradies... guys who own their own businesses or who use their skills to flip houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:19 PM
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I think it means they can find out plenty of info about you before you know much about them other than that they are giving the impression of being adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:14 PM
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The reality is somewhat more complex than that, just like when people attempt to use degrees to get jobs. A degree in English literature or history or philosophy isn't getting a man anywhere with anyone unless he's got a job to go with it, you're actually proved MORE of a loser with a degree but no financial success... all that shows is you can spend money to avoid reality. A degree in engineering usually results in a job but that shitter of a personality that often seems to go along with it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 11:12 PM
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This post wasn't about me, Then why the chatty little PS? That could totally have been left out if you hadn't wanted the post to be about you. It had ZERO purpose other than to make the post about you? P.S. I've never seen a prostitute, but would love to. The underground nature of it turns me off to the whole endeavor. See? Main purpose to that was to include yourself in the matter. If you'd just wanted to say the illegal side puts guys off that without including yourself that could easily have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 10:43 PM
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And I've been trying to use short words for you and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:05 PM
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Which some women are fine with. But, also, we're expected to pay even if the date is cheap. Then find ways to talk for free until you've got a rapport that allows for easy discussion of paying for dates, if only there was a way people could send messages from electronic device to electronic device for next to no marginal cost! Way to completely misdirect. Nope, it is the truth. Every man's time is a different thing. For starters, some men value their time and money enough to work out ways to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:03 PM
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No-one said it is easy in practice, just that in concept it is very easy and sometimes it needs to be done. Life in general is not easy for most people at some time in their life or maybe for some all their life. Everywhere you go there are people suffering from not having what they need. People with not enough money so their diet suffers and they eat what they can afford not what will be good for them. People whose parents were narcissists and they will forever have an empty feeling of loss tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:31 PM
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He sees a hooker for sex, she sees a psych for emotional comfort... the most awkward parts of the relationship have been outsourced and now they can concentrate on hot cups of cocoa by the fire and walking their dogs. Well I guess it could work.Sort of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:04 PM
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Hey, fuck you No thanks, you sound unattractive. I do believe that is the usual response you'd be getting. Haven't fucked any hookers but I've known a handful. But hey, I'm not the one with the expressed desire to fuck them. You expressed a desire to do something, pardon me for attempting to suggest ways to accomplish your goals, I should know by now that what your sort want isn't to actually accomplish goals, but to be excused from accomplishing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 02:51 PM
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Yeah but I really doubt that's the reason they do it. You can easily avoid giving away personal info without talking about travelling specifically. Not as easily as by talking about something totally unrelated to ormal life... such as travel. Even something as trivial as letting you know one of their hobbies could lead to you showing up to events related to it. Telling you all about their trip to Cambodia though... do what you can with that it isn't much. It isn't why they travel of course. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 02:45 PM
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Talking about travel is a way of talking without telling you lots of stuff you might use to stalk them. When they talk about travel they tell you very little about their real day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:41 AM
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Ooooooh thinly veiled threats. What am I supposed to do now, buy a floral dress and bake you a pie? No-one wanted Elliot and turns out they were all totally correct in staying the hell away from him. Literally no-one who is both sane and smart thinks the likes of Elliot should get to breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:20 AM
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And? I mean not everything a person or movement hates is a good target for protest by that person. Every bit of common sense says this is something that men are going to have to change for themselves. Feminists can point it out to men who are actually interested that this is part of the harmfulness of patriarchy... that men should not feel they have to issue the sort of invitations make a wealth display in the first few dates, that men should not have to feel they must take a bullet. But men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:25 AM
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Why should they protest? If you want other men to change these sorts of behaviors you must talk rationally and directly to those men, not ask woman to berate them into it. Ask them not to invite women on expensive dates until they have enough rapport to feel comfortable discussing who pays, ask them not to fling themselves on the nearest woman every time a car backfires nearby. These male behaviors are very similar to female "volunteering" behaviors that feminism has traditionally talked directl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:07 AM
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Heaven forbid any woman might think that being pleasing company is a prerequisite for keeping company with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 07:41 AM
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That's ignoring the point entirely. Said point was basically that yes, some women do initiate, the vast majority of initiation will be done by men because we have no other choice. They do have choices other than to invite women on dates that involve significant expense. They can socialise generally and look for indicators of interest, strike up conversations then ask women to do inexpensive things with them. You cannot be a feminist if you believe your time is inherently more valuable than a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 01:58 AM
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SE Asia is an interesting place, plenty of other things to interest him too, make for a nice holiday. Lots of options. Even if he's young and poor, if he puts in average effort he's not going to be penniless forever. He needs to write that list. Maybe Amsterdam is worth it if he's got other interests it can handle. Isn't there even a place in the USA that allows it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:40 AM
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It just makes you look insincere. I sincerely believe that the world can and probably will change. If you don't believe me than well... tough luck for you, you're mistaken. Or, they could be an adult and say, "Hey, I don't want to go to X. Let's go to Y instead." The person issuing the invite has had considerably more time to work out what else could be done. The person being invited is likely to fumble awkwardly then just decline if the implication if the norm is everyone pays for themselves no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:37 AM
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I live in a medium sized city... overall metro area of over a million. I feel quite comfy without money within an easy walk of my home, anything up to say 3 kilometres, I'd feel more unprepared without money on me in the country. If I say for example sprained my ankle then my phone broke while I was half a kilometre from home, the chances would be pretty good I could find someone to make a phone call or two for me or even to let me walk home leaning on them. And no I am not an attractive young w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:24 AM
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So why not say that men should always pay for dates? Sometimes women issue invitations. Because it is functionally the same thing, since men are almost always going to be doing the inviting. That's not necessarily always going to be the case. Also, it has nothing to do with the money (At least for me.), so, you can't say "just go on a cheap date." Money is involved, but what it in essence comes down to is that it is rude to create a situation where a stranger may have to chose between a range of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 12:16 AM
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Because I believe in always being in a prepared state and "having your money with you" is one of those basic things. Didn't used to be. Still isn't if you're doing the sort of things that have always been done with no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:50 PM
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Why? I mean I get that most of the time we need to take our money with us, but if you leave just for a walk around the neighborhood a phone, a key and a bottle of water should be ample supplies. In cold weather you can probably skip the water if you start off well hydrated. Back in the seventies, all people took with them at times was a key. There's certainly no obligation to be prepared to at a moment's notice accept and pay half for an immediate date. If someone asks a gal like me walking in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:37 PM
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Here's a cookie. No thanks, I mean nice date invite and all, but I left my wallet home. Gonna have to pay for and eat that cookie yourself. Also there sure is some selective quoting on your part... here have the full paragraph. The thing about making respect something that is only ever given once someone has proven to you they are deserving is that it results in most people (including you) being disrespected by the majority of people they meet. Once when we lived in small communities or tribes w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:42 PM
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Combat usually feels meaningful, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:10 PM
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I asked my ex husband out on my first date with him. The thing about making respect something that is only ever given once someone has proven to you they are deserving is that it results in most people (including you) being disrespected by the majority of people they meet. Once when we lived in small communities or tribes where everyone knew everyone else it could work that way, and the rights of visitors were dealt with by a complex code of hospitality. Now we live in cities, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:09 PM
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P.S. I've never seen a prostitute, but would love to. The underground nature of it turns me off to the whole endeavor. Well save your money to eventually go somewhere it isn't underground. If you're youngish you are eventually going to want to travel a little anyway, might as well inform yourself if you're going to hold opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:04 PM
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Most of BP think several things apply in terms of paying for dates. 1)Whatever your gender, when you do the inviting then you are paying unless you made it expressly obvious otherwise before the date itself. This is to avoid people being unpleasantly surprised by the expense of a date that they did not plan. This may relax as a relationship progresses and people become intimate to the extent that they feel confident sharing details of their financial situation with each other and just straight u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:26 PM
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Chivalry was an informal code of conduct that also extended to things other than just what happens between men and women, and it changed and evolved with history and local needs. Quite clearly the physical protection aspect of it is not so much an issue nowadays. I do think that maybe it is useful to most people to do a little reflective thought of their own about what they find acceptable and desirable in terms of their own conduct and the sort of conduct they choose to model for others, maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:11 PM
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Well yes it isn't the war that makes them want to kill themselves it is the return to civilian life afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:33 PM
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Oh well, find the similar chart for America (going back to before ww2 at least) and interpret it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 01:32 PM
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Being in a marriage where the wife does not want you, goes limp and unresponsive when you fuck her, and if you leave or are unfaithful you lose everything (not just half) by being found at fault is somehow better and more hopeful than the current situation? Besides which, male suicide rates aren't particularly high right now, at least not in Australia. They dipped quite low during WW2 rose for a while after and peaked in the early sixties as did women's suicides. Then there was another peak in 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 01:12 PM
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It told charmless undesirable men they can have a virgin woman who loves them and only ever them if they just get a job and work for a boss. It removed most of women's options for earning their own money. It made marriage near impossible to dissolve. Consequence? Countless marriages where a virgin girl mistook for lust or love her initial excitement at finding a way not to live with her parents any more... and a man mistook for attractive a girl who worked very hard at diet, clothes and makeup..…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:06 AM
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Occasionally being the only one speaking up and getting mobbed for it is part of the general experience of calling out victim blamers, not peculiar to calling out people who victim blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 01:23 AM
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The missing piece to the puzzle is that good-looking young women who are gainfully employed, sane, hardworking, and not mooches are extremely high value. Such a woman can take a similarly hard working man up several rungs of the social ladder by uniting her efforts with his. Or she can make a less hard-working man able to have a huge amount of spare time and energy for his hobbies. Low to mid value guys have to make a decision about what to compromise on, just as low to mid value women have to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:46 PM
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This post lacks substance, it is more suited as a reply to the Offtopic stickypost. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/781uq0/weekly_offtopicsunday_megathread_22_october_2017/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:18 PM
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So what you are saying is if a man remarries, he's either stupid or low value? This is not reflected in what we see of the actual behavior of high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 08:28 PM
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They hate it but they work out where they went wrong in their choice and they marry again. They take it in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:47 PM
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High value men take it in stride.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:33 PM
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Generalisations are really good for things like "what jacket should I buy to appeal to women in general on Friday nights out clubbing" but they start to become less useful the closer in to a perfectly communicating perfectly good-faith one-to-one situation (which is of course in itself an impossibility... a theoretical state that is never arrived at) one gets. And even with the jacket the generalisation can fall down. If all the girls who like your jacket detest your shoes then you'd maybe be be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:34 AM
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High value men don't care about low value men and prefer the world to be such that their wives have social support in defending themselves against creeps. High value men don't invite low value men to meet their wives and daughters. High value men don't know what the deal of that weirdo with the limp, squint and stutter is nor can they be bothered finding out. High value men don't hate low value men as much as high value women do, but then again low value men aren't so much trying to stick their …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:34 AM
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Most of the sorts that end up on MRP. First they understand their girlfriend or wife as an idealized role and OMG why is that role not performed perfectly, marriage is dying! Then TRP points out hey guyz, she ain't just a role, she's got a gender too! OMG the revelation! One sad spergy male previously possessed of no insight now feels he has godlike powers of insight. Off he goes to do some lifting and he buys a few new shirts and gets a haircut, yey she's looking at him a bit more lustfully, AW…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 04:30 AM
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Yeah whatever, I've got no problem with generalization as a tool, the annoyance is generated when I see it being proudly used in situations where it is the wrong tool or when I see that it appears to be someone's only tool and they think that makes them smart. At that point my desire to not suffer fools gladly overcomes my desire to be polite. And if that means some TRPers here apply "AWALT" to me, well... I FUCKING WISH. I wish all women did not suffer fools gladly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 03:59 AM
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What are your thoughts on her dating experience? She couldn't have loved her ex all that much not to end up bitter and doubtful enough about men to avoid falling for this bullshit. I mean seriously, when the guy you thought was The One either dumps you or you see him for what he is and dump him, that's supposed to be a wakeup call about not drinking the Koolaid. She's just gullible. I have no idea whether the guy who had sex with her was a TRPer or just an old fashioned rake or maybe some guy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:39 AM
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I am entertaining her thought pieces. Quite possibly the wankiest sentence I have read all year. You are reading her articles, that's what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:14 PM
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lol, sorry, slip of the... well not exactly tongue. I do mean after my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:30 AM
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The great and effective? Could be good or evil. One thing's for sure, if you're a truly good decent person you regard yourself as obliged to become effective. Evil is constantly motivated to effectiveness because it is all about selfishness. Good has to choose effectiveness because the alternative is to cede all to evil. If you haven't chosen effectiveness as a major goal and are not evil, then you're by default neutral. That's your right of course but "I'm a neutral guy why can't I get laid?" d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:27 AM
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Good habits being enough to make the difference? Well yeah sure. You wake up in the morning and instead of resetting the alarm and sleeping until the last possible moment you roll your feet over to the side of the bed and sit up as is your habit. You shower and you brush your teeth and fix your hair and apply deodorant and check your skin, as is your habit. Fresh clothes, as is your habit. Make your bed as is your habit. Eat a healthy breakfast as is your habit. To work on time as is your habit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:43 AM
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A lot of it is just habit formation, if you form a habit then it no longer takes motivation to follow through on that habit. I mean obviously that isn't all of it, but it is enough to make the difference for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:25 AM
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There's places you can send work for publication if you've cited it thoroughly. If citations were truly important to you you would be participating in those places not here. What you are trying to do is make participating here harder work for people you disagree with. Like, screw that for a fucking joke. I tell you what, how about you do a hundred bodyweight squats and fifty proper pushups before you talk to me again? I mean at least that way this conversation might have a chance of helping you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:39 AM
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Well yes Mr Brown, we do understand that she yelled at you, threw a laptop she bought you out in the street and locked you out the house. But she did eventually let you back in before you got chilblains right? And you must understand how provocative you were being... why did you even get married to a successful woman like her if you weren't willing to scrub her period underwear? You're obviously not managing your time particularly well if doing your duty conflicted with your study time. You're v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:27 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:06 AM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:06 AM
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If you're deliberately trying not to understand then there's not much point feeling any sympathy for you when your lack of understanding leads you to unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:05 AM
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Yes, and the compromise is that since women can't get the guys they actually want, they compromise and get a guy who has some money who will take care of them. This is because, to most women, most men have no sexual value whatsoever. Men tend to earn more than women and prefer younger women who due to the nature of careers will have lower incomes. Therefore when compromises are taking place it makes sense that more often than not men are bringing money to the table. Don't like that for yourself?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:43 AM
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You didn't answer the question. Yes I did, you just don't like my answer. Tough shit. But that's why guys are pretty much universally expected to make more money than women they want to date. Everybody prefers the idea of a partner who can pull their weight financially. Everybody prefers the idea of a partner who looks exceptionally good. Everybody prefers the idea of a partner who is delightful company. Everybody prefers a partner who is sane. And in the end... everybody makes compromises. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 01:16 AM
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Would you rather be poor and unhappy or a millionaire and unhappy? I'd rather be unhappy without having to deal with a few thousand dicks with clingy difficult dudes attached. No, they find a guy with whom they are willing to exchange vagina for resources. Most women don't live in a world of guys whose income is enough to allow for luxury. Most women find guys with whom they both can find a little bit more long term financial security than they could as single people. The woman who cooks at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:45 AM
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It has value within a very clear and specific context. Just as having a high N count has value within certain contexts. You ever noticed that as soon as a pretty woman who is known as a slut enters the room, every single male has his attention on her? yeah, that's value too. A very limited and contextual value. The point I do believe the blue pillers are trying to make when they tell you her N count should not have value to you if you have a high N count yourself is that you're being stupid and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:23 AM
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No, not really. A zillion "Sup?" responses and some copypasta from low value guys don't mean shite in terms of making a woman happy. Just because they look normal and decent value to you as a man who isn't considering fucking them doesn't mean they are. Look at people's overall lives... not just a select few compared against a select few but people in general. Men and women seem to be getting roughly similar outcomes. Women are just as horny as men, but their horniness only is targeted towards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:01 AM
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Another common blue position is that a promiscuous or wanting to be promiscuous man has no right to want low n or virginity for his long term partner because it is something he has not chosen for himself. You can want what you want, but the fact is that the small number of women who choose to remain virgin nowadays don't do it for the sake of rakes who now want to become fathers or for the sake of the marriage market. They do it because they prefer it for other reasons. Maybe they are germaphobi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 11:35 PM
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The general outcomes seem to be pretty even for men and women right now. Low value people of either gender have limited happiness and success and must work hard AND carefully choose what compromises to make if they wish for any happiness and success via the SMP and RMP. High value individuals of either gender do well. This is, broadly speaking, equality. Now obviously it is possible to focus in on a small section of the populations involved and say "SEE! Look how unhappy men/women are!" We see c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:57 PM
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Now the balance has shifted in the complete opposite direction. The balance is now very much at or near the centre. We definitely aren't finding men under the same outrageous pressure to be married that women were prior to the 20th century. We aren'tseeing a situation in which men trapped in bad situations have very little choice other than to stay. There's a little pressure on both genders but it is pretty even. It just looks to men like everything has gone completely to the other extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:01 PM
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The truly good also make it their business to be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:23 AM
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My father gave a guy who was stalking me my phone number and address then told me he seemed like a nice lad and I should date him. No Dad. That guy is currently on an altered program at university with compulsory psych appointments because he stalked and harassed several lecturers. If it wasn't his last year they'd have thrown him out already. He is not a nice lad, he is not a good prospect. Mind you, my Dad is a narcissist so kinda doubtful he cares about me in the way people usually mean when …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 02:19 AM
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If you think of yourself as good and decent but really you're an ineffectual lump of lard then chances are you're not as good and decent as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 11:05 PM
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I think maybe we just don't have the right vocabulary to discuss the concept of extending our belief to accusers with the sort of preciseness that is necessary here? Given the role that unquestioning belief has historically played in preserving certain aspects of most cultures (most specifically, religion) it is not surprising that we lack language that easily and accurately and compassionately and most importantly of all, politely discusses conditionality of belief. The powerful shape not only …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:45 PM
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Well yes, morality is something human beings can afford because we've created ourselves a reality using morality that provides for a different way of existing. There's billions of humans and most of them exist because we stopped behaving like amoral animals and started organising ourselves along principles of law and morality. I would also like to point out that we've been at this morality business for long enough that now our immediate and presumably at least partially instinctual response to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 11:11 PM
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Yeah whatever, that "dump her immediately" bit, that's a childish revenge fantasy on your part. Real grownups who effectively assess what other grownups are all about also tend to have a long enough attention span to deal with being told "yeah this topic makes me uncomfortable, let's not talk about it" in ways that still get to the truth but are less precipitous. Sometimes people just need a few hours between being asked to talk and actually talking because the issue is such a painful one. I als…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 10:50 PM
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Well, in the hands of an experienced person a truncheon is a fairly useful weapon, but in the hands of an inexperienced person it is just a stick. Once he's got the challenger on the ground then he can safely deliver an appropriately painful and humiliating beating to the challenger's limbs with very little risk of actually ending up on murder charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:17 PM
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A duel against the likes of our Op there? Truncheons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 03:13 PM
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I'm in my late forties and have kids. Mission accomplished on my part. I'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 04:52 PM
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So I've pretty much said "seek to accumulate power such that in future times of your relative powerlessness in the relationship you maintain enough power to reduce any temptation your partner feels to take screwing you over as the past of least resistance" And you've taken that to mean "seek to have power so you can screw your partner over" Tell me... do you believe a man is screwed over if his stay-at-home wife and mother of his kids does not become powerless except for what power he grants her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:13 PM
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Doesn't matter how much romance and feeling a relationship starts with, if there is a marked power differential and during a period of stress the more powerful member of the couple falls prey to the temptations involved in being the more powerful member of the couple then it is going to go to hell in a hand basket, People who think they are owed the perfect confidence of their intended spouse at the time they marry are fools who are seeking to marry fools, not a good thing. That sort of confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:44 PM
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Anyone who is contemplating being in the less powerful position for a some years and despite all the evidence we see round us of abuses happening by the powerful against the weak does not consider carefully the power aspect of relationships before doing so is a fool. Intelligence has a strong genetic component. Choose a fool to breed with if you want, don't be surprised when your kids make poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:46 AM
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If a girl is genuinely running her sex life in a logical manner, being part of gangbangs and sex trains isn't going to be part of it. Too physically risky. FWBs, and occasional ONS with guys she already knows as friends and trusts are the go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:42 AM
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She's found the perfect guy but yet doesn't want to devote her most youthful and attractive years to him? There's lots of guys who seem perfect out there. That's not because anyone actually is perfect, it is because human beings are set up emotionally to seek out other human beings and deem them to be perfect then do stupid things because of it. We evolved under circumstances in which mortality was high and pumping out a few babies right now was almost always the best strategy. Those circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:39 AM
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Counting down to the first time some guy suspects his flatmate is making covert use of his robot, and so alters it to have a violent surprise in its vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:46 AM
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It seems like you see relationships as a power struggle The standard breadwinner/sahp arrangement has a very strong tendency to over time invoke a power dynamic that causes difficulties. Anyone who goes into it without a solid gameplan with regards to power is a fool. If you don't have experience in a LTR, you may not be able to keep your first LTR at a later age stable, why do you think it would be any different at a later age than it is at earlier ages when it comes to black and white thinking…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:32 AM
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The research, which looked at 100 heterosexual, married females between the ages of 35 and 45 and their online conversations with potential suitors on discreet dating service AshleyMadison.com, found that... Y'know, I'm not saying there is nothing to be learned from a study with that methodology... but I think we need to make sure we remember that cheaters don't just lie to their spouses, they lie to the people they cheat with too. Of course a person using Ashley Madison is going to say they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:22 AM
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Waiting until you are older won't actually lower your risk Funny how TRPers think it is usually BPers who argue exceptionality. Meeting, setting your sights on some kind of statistical target is the DUMBEST FUCKING THING you can do Nah, they set their sights on having a lot of economic and social capital before they take on a man so the power is more balanced when they take time off to have kids. The stats just back it up. Those stats were often gathered YEARS ago and apply to demographics you D…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:03 AM
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The women who deliberately hold off on LTRs in their college years have usually thought through their timeframes pretty well already and don't need suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:35 PM
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but I wish I could freeze him in time so he’d be the same guy and waiting for me when I turn 29 or 30. The statistics still show that marrying in your early 20s is a poorer bet than marrying in your late twenties. All those failed early twenties marriages thought they'd got it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:15 PM
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Or you can just break up that LTR if it won't pan out and look for a new one? Some people are capable of that Yes some people are capable of that. And some people would prefer not to start relationships knowing they will get very close to the other person just to break their heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:19 PM
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It makes every bit of sense if you are capable of looking at it from the point of view of the girls involved, contemplating their first few years out of college. It is tough out there in terms of jobs. What happens when you are in a serious LTR and his best career path leads to one coast and yours to another? Who compromises? What if no-one compromises? Do then you do five or six years of long distance, with all the relationship discomforts and risks that involves, desperately trying to get to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:12 PM
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Just making an emotional commitment can itself lead to doing dumbass things for him like not maximising your early career. I mean obviously it is a bit better than marriage because it need not involve a court to help clean up the mess. Still asking for trouble. Look I understand, young men who think they've got good prospects but maybe aren't good at juggling a study/life balance sometimes want a helpmeet they can fuck, who will help pay their way, who will cook them meals and iron their shirts,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:57 PM
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The cold hard figures seem to indicate that marriage before age 25 is associated with additional risks of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:48 PM
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Well enough that most women who want to establish a career then get a husband and have a family can do so if they work consistently towards those goals and don't do dumb things early on like marrying a guy and giving up their goals to support his. I mean seriously, for the most part the women who end up without kids are those who have chosen to be childfree or those who didn't set goals and work towards then in an organised and logical manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:41 PM
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She was considerably more attracted to those other men. Her FWBs and ONSs summoned a kind of animalistic urge in her--causing her to eschew any and all demands or conditions on sex--which her LTR never could. This sort of thinking always makes me laugh. My kids are university age now and I see how things are for the younger generation. Young woman who do the female equivalent of sowing wild oats do so because at that stage in their life it plain old makes sense not to have a serious boyfriend. Q…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:26 PM
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Let's say a guy has a question "Am I of average looks?" well obviously he's really meaning "Am I of average looks to the women of the age range I intend to pursue?" So maybe he's a 25 year old interested in women from age 18 to age 27. Obviously if you look at the 18 year olds in his target demographic they are going to be considering guys in (for most part) the 17 to 23 year range, to get them to consider him he'll probably have to have really good game. The 27 year olds will probably be consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:04 PM
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First para Trap_City_Bitch (Lol) was gilded and put on bestof for once again strawmanning TRP. The comedy here comes from the fact that he is on the bodybuilding subreddit, and thus probably gets more attention from women than the average redditor. last line PPD, START YOUR ENGINES! Why does this have a distinctly "I'm looking for you to brigade that post!" feel to it? Is it the leading with "LOOK WHAT HE DID!" or is it the all-caps call to action at the end? Anyhoo, having a problem caring. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:09 AM
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The dating market no longer favors women as whole. It never really did favor women as a whole. Dating for women used to involve not being able to drop out and still live a decent life, monitoring their weight every single day, and a huge amount of waiting to be asked. And such men are 40+ overall and that dating market is much different than the 18 to 40 one. Every bit of the market ends up effecting every other bit of the market to some degree. Those 48 year old guys aren't always aiming for 48…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:37 AM
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And his stride is six foot wide, and he drinks his beer from a four gallon jar. When he sings the windows rattle and when he dances the ground shakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:55 PM
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Well you know how it is... preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:32 PM
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You've forgotten that they need to be carrying a solid 12 inches of penis. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 09:07 PM
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The regularly renewed sticky posts. One for offtopic stuff, one for a variety of annoying repetitive topics that attract whiners trying to stir up drama. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/76dpuk/weekly_topic_saturday_megathread_14_october_2017/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/76kkwu/weekly_offtopicsunday_megathread_15_october_2017/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:19 PM
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If I recall correctly that study involved comparing modern day DNA tests against historical records of people's ancestors in Flanders Belgium that go back over 400 years. It estimated "nonpaternity events" but there was no indication whether such events were the result of cheating. In fact there's many ways that nonpaternity events could happen and the father on the birth certificate be co-operative with it. About 7% of men are substantially infertile, and a similar number not inclined to sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 07:12 PM
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Most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:39 PM
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At this point I don't care whether you had any chances or not, I know you'd give the hell up anyway. You sir are why we have a stickypost ghetto.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 06:37 PM
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The fewer chances to improve your situation you have the more important it becomes that you don't squander them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 05:19 PM
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And now you've deleted the post contents? Well that's consistent, you decided it wasn't going well for you and you didn't want to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:31 PM
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You study as hard as you can and you get the best mark you possibly can. Maybe something extreme will happen... the test will have issues... the curve is not what they expected... and they'll pass people down to a lower level than usual. If you come in just under the pass mark you beg and plead and grovel to be given a supplementary exam. Which in some cases you might. And if you don't get a supp you repeat the subject knowing that the work you put into not failing as badly as you could has give…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:11 PM
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There's so many factors that are out of your control so hard work doesn't even matter. What the fuck is wrong with you people who think this way? It is when everything is spiraling out of control that having done some hard work in the past might end up being the only thing that saves you. I mean seriously how do you expect to be prepared for an opportunity you don't know exists yet if you don't do the work you actually know exists to be done? Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:02 PM
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How is all this not in man’s favour? Other aspects of the situation have changed which make it more complex than that. For starters, being alone is a nicer and more secure state for women than it has ever been, so men aren't just competing against other men they are competing against what a woman can do for herself if she doesn't let a man into her life with all his demands and foibles. And women now get to have the easy divorces too, so a large number of low SMV women who used to marry based up…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:40 PM
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Everyone is a risk for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:22 PM
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Is it? I mean getting your toenails painted once seems pretty casual to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:14 PM
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A lot there to think about and I doubt there is anyone except her who agrees or disagrees with every bit of it. No. Not sure what you mean by "things"... do you mean the things she is talking about that people currently do or the things she want them to do differently? They should be taught it is an option there for them if they want it, and that it isn't totally incompatible with masculinity. I mean seriously, when you shy away theatrically from even casual contact with pink frilly stuff other …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:23 AM
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If the man is not actively making her life worse, then what makes her more unhappy than being alone? Because he isn't willing to change to fit every of her expectations? The lack of perfection is really worst than loneliness? It isn't about the lack of perfection, it is about having become a jug that pours warm water over someone else so they can bathe but never gets cleaned itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:26 AM
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17 narc, 40 mach, 11 psych
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:40 PM
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it's a losing strategy for you own pleasure Ah I see. And the right strategy according to you is what... on her eighteenth birthday a girl should marry an unattractive 30 year old incel with a lower level tech job and a domineering narcissist mother who pushes him round, and be forever grateful with whatever she gets from that? Cos that's usually what I hear next from guys who try to convince people sluts have less fun. snerk. The sluts I know seem to make out just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 04:35 PM
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In each circumstance I'd have to know the exact situation to know whether it is fair or not. I mean I think it isn't fair to proactively ridicule a virgin man just because he is there and he is virgin, but if some virgin guy is trying to lecture sexually active folks about what sex is all about and he's getting it all so wrong and is acting incredibly self-important and compounding every error by defending it then laugh laugh laugh away. Similarly it isn't particularly fair to throw eggs and ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:18 PM
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Nah, it is because the incel telling the story can't bear to think that she had fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:10 PM
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Lets ignore the small percent of women who use it for reasons other than sex. That's not so small a proportion of women nowadays. Why should the employer be responsible for women's sex life? I don't think employers should be responsible for healthcare. I think the government should. The pool of unemployed (ie, spare) laborers and future laborers and past laborers need healthcare every bit as much as current laborers, and economies of scale are best accessed at a national level. That said, I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 08:15 AM
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I've not had any ONS but I know a few women who have. Mostly the lack of orgasm is due to simply not feeling safe enough with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:47 AM
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Me personally? Nah, not as TRP describes abundance mentality. When I leave a situation it isn't because I assume I can get more and better it is because having just myself is better than having myself plus what I am leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:36 AM
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I am talking about communication in general. Verbal, nonverbal. Both the receptive and the expressive sides of communication. And woven in with the communication some plain old observation. And a good deal of reflection. Sigh. How can I put this? You have probably put a bit of effort into finding out what is under the bonnet of your car. You probably check your car almost automatically every time you walk past it. When there is something about your car that is changed or you don't understand you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 08:40 PM
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It seems like you are saying that you need to build intimacy through communication, but that is a skill most people don't have. OK, we are living in different universes then. Most people can do this to varying degrees. Instead of telling people to communicate, you would have to tell them how to communicate in order for this to be effective. if you look back at my initial reply to this post you can see quite clearly that what I am advocating is a relationship built from mutual empathy, concern an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:01 PM
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If he doesn't already know (or at very least, have a fair idea) why she's refusing sex then the model of her and her feelings and reactions he has in his mind is not good enough. He needs to communicate more in general with her, so she will communicate more in general with him, and his general model of who she is and why improves. And then when something is up with her chances are he'll have a fair idea already. Because she's his wife, because he's spent years building a picture of her in his mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:37 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question Classic example of the loaded question. I was pointing out the fallacious nature of your request.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:07 PM
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Could you stop beating your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:01 PM
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A lot of women leave because the relationship itself is intolerable. After that of course a woman faces relentless pressure to date from single men, the generally euphoric feeling at no longer being in emotional pain, and a dawning realisation that negative things said to her about her attractiveness and responsiveness by her ex during arguments appear to be simply not true. Yes, some people do leave relationships in order to start new relationships. But the most common scenario as far as I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:22 PM
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They left because sometimes doing without the best you can get and doing without instead is a good idea if the best you can get is still making you unhappy. And it is relevant because we're talking about breakups and it is wrong to assume that all breakups occur because someone sees the possibility to get a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:07 PM
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Because if someone wants an alternative/complementary tool to reliably meeting incredibly high standards for the pleasingness of the facade they present to the world the only choice is communication. Simple as that. You can communicate with a person's emotional/intellectual/spiritual self and find value in them there, or you can covet a relationship to all their accoutrements/facade... money, fame, appearance, social status etc. There's nothing else to interact with other than those two things. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:04 PM
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Nope. I've seen women leave men who they thought were the best they were ever likely to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:50 PM
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The people in TRP as far as I can see tend heavily to autism and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:50 PM
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Where's the value in the dead bedrooms that do that? Dude, just because something solves one set of problems doesn't mean it solves all sets of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:46 PM
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Communication does not solve all problems, but without placing some importance on it you're essentially recommending a relationship between the facades of two narcissists. That has its own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:43 PM
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The things you listed are the requirements for a relationship to survive on the woman's part if the man puts no active effort into understanding and making allowance for what is happening for his wife emotionally. Quite literally they are what is necessary if you intend to never have to think about and do something about how the relationship is treating her, what her day has been like, what causes her heart to sing or her eyes to tear up. They are what needs to be in place for the woman to stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:29 PM
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Don't you occasionally wish people who have been annoying and restricting you for decades and now look set to annoy and restrict your kids would just explode en masse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 01:03 PM
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I'm 47 and have spent precisely 30 hours single since I was 17. Never slept with a complete stranger. If I could go back to when i was 18 and vigorously offer my 18 year old self the chance to heydollocaust the PUAs, I sure would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 12:45 PM
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Oh yeah, having tons of people wanting to bang you is SUUUUCH a hassle! /s Yes, after finally reaching the age when such pressure drops off I can for sure, having seen the difference and being so much happier now, tell you that pressure is a bad thing and leads to young women feeling unsafe and having to unreasonably restrict where they go, what time they go there, and what they do. If I could wave a magic wand and kill a defined segment of the population I would kill every man who in the past w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 12:31 PM
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I think you mis-pelled "wants to stick their dick up" as "love" and no that is not a benefit it is a sodding hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 12:22 PM
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I liked the first bit but then there was a guy with a boring droning voice and I looked at how long there was to go on the vid and noped out of the likely waste of my free time involved in sticking around. People focus on what they want to focus on. If someone wants to focus on laughing at douchebags then that's fine, if someone wants to focus on telling women ways in which they can improve that's fine too. Ultimately nobody is going to change their behavior unless they want to, and nobody is go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 10:11 AM
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My take is the two organisations are probably in a slow process of switching from being divided along gender lines to being divided along political lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:47 AM
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So what you're saying is that because there have always been a very very small number of freakishly talented men compared to a very very very very small number of freakishly talented women, men in general make better plodders and they should automatically be rewarded more for their plodding? I mean I just want to be sure you're saying what I think you are saying because it is something I really can't see why anyone would want to say, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:41 AM
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It is curious as to why character traits were rated so highly since these are assumed to be taught by the parents and not inherited. I don't assume they are not inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 04:34 AM
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I still feel like I have to have sex with a lot of girls. Like a "proof that I can" and that I'm "worth it" kinda thing. A lot of people feel they need a lot of sex and variety of partners. But if the reason you feel you need it is to show the world and to prove something to yourself then you probably aren't enjoying it as much as you could be. Am I fucked forever? Maybe. I mean a lot of people are fucked up forever about something, I sure as hell know I am. It is just another sort of normal, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 04:04 AM
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Yeah, women tend to like sex that is a narrative turning point, that changes the story in certain ways. Meaningful sex. That's how romance novels are and with good reason. But you know what? Can't just have everything you want in life. There's only so much in the way of narrative turning points the average life can or should have in it. Just like sugar tastes real good but eating all the sugar fucks you over real bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:21 PM
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When you start boo hooing about how you're going to not bother because blah blah blah terrible women blah blah blah, anyone with any sense is going to understand that you could not fetch the price you thought you deserved. I think you need to know how obvious this is to people. There is, I think, no way I can tell you this and you find it civil. So you're going to have to perceive it as uncivil.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:28 PM
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What happened was sexual rationing via patriarchy resulted in a general reduction in evolutionary pressure on men and as a consequence a subsequent gradual reduction in their underlying worth as . Pretty much an economic/evolutionary bubble that had to pop sometime. Thankyou for recognising that a large number of men, you among them, need to stop attempting to marry and have kids because the value you ascribe to yourself is greater than women's assessment of your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:01 PM
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PROTIP: There's nothing wrong with wanting control over one's own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:20 AM
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After all, who has all the power in society, when one gender gets unilateral decisions on who gets to breed? Them's the breaks, it isn't like that situation isn't difficult for women in other ways, by being in general shorter and physically weaker and having periods and having to experience pregnancy with all its risks and all that shit. And even so... the majority of decisions to abort are decisions taken as a couple. Unilateral decisions to abort aren't all the same either, for example a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:38 AM
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Ah. 1992, the year I decided that no I really did not need to keep trying. Cut my losses and run. There will be no children, no joint retirement fund, no picket fence. Not for him with me, anyway. I wanted us both to work hard and buy a little house and work hard and pay off the little house quickly and work hard and buy a better house and work hard and raise some kids and work hard and put money away for retirement and work hard and have a few nice things. He wanted to steal from his employers …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:09 AM
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Why a fantasy about being a hard to get alpha that women are just desperate to lock down is so popular with RPM should be no surprise to anyone Everyone wants to be wanted, but TPRers as a whole have spent so long unwanted that they fail to have gained a deep appreciation of how unsexy and downright dangerous that sort of irrational must-have-at-all-costs i-will-make-it-happen love can be. I mean seriously, how does one make a high value player who hasn't shown a particular desire to settle end …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 03:11 AM
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Men that are boring, Boring is a highly subjective term. I mean just saying,your opinions as a man who sees other men through the lens of friendship/rivalry is going to be very different because of the subjective nature of boredom. broke, unskilled, don't have opportunities to offer others(women especially). Oh. So what you are saying is that you don't think women are good enough at gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:02 AM
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But carrying to term does not in any way force parenthood. Actually it sorta can lead to forced parenthood. Adoption is conditional upon both parents signing off, if only one of them over the months and months of pregnancy decides not to then there is a forced situation for someone. Abortion, however, quickly and conclusively removes all chance of forced parenthood. In fact, infants are in high demand. Someone will gladly take that unwanted infant from you. At the moment, yes... because we have …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:56 PM
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What do you have to offer a man other than sex that would make you worthy of his committment? Commitment has largely been a mutual necessity for me and my partner due to our desire to have kids and raise a family. This is in the context of a guy who wants to sleep around and does not want a relationship, but you do. Why bother with such a man if you want commitment? TLDR - How would you get a Redpill man/player to drop his other women since sex is so abundant for him? I wouldn't. I'd look for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:31 PM
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I've read your comments on the hypothetical on how this would work and will say yes. Then in circumstances where neither bio parent wanted a child it's likely up for adoption, or with one as the carer and the other paying child support like now. And if neither parent wants the child and no adoptive parent is forthcoming? Does it get taken into government care and both parents pay child support to the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:12 AM
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This sums up your attitude entirely. How sad. You sound like a petulant teenager. I think we’re done here. People planning to reduce my bodily rights and the bodily rights of my daughters brings out a good deal of annoyance in me. Of course you're done here. You know you haven't got any argument other than "waaaaaaa you're terrible for being willing to use your power over your own body" I would like to remind any men reading this that for a great number of men, an abortion of a fetus that was co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:57 AM
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I wonder why RP men think women have 0 accountability. /s. You ain’t gonna do anything you don’t want. You go girl. In my experience the majority of abortions are decisions taken by a couple who are both in agreement that continuation of the pregnancy would be a really bad thing for both of them. In these instances the woman takes direct physical responsibility for the discomforts of ending a situation that was going to have a lasting bad impact on her male lover's life. If TRP men are focused o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:27 AM
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Well, that the usual way women deal with their periods. A woman isn't obliged to deal with her periods in the usual way. I’m not sure how familiar you are with abortions, but there are usually pads for all the spotting and bleeding. Never had an abortion but I've given birth and I understand the bleeding is similar. I suppose if you just want to bleed into your panties those could be used too. Those pants are my property you can't take them off me if I don't allow it. Besides which, I don't part…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:11 AM
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I don't want a lining in my panties, touching my crotch. Bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:57 PM
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Where is this lining when the fetus is captured?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:55 PM
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A pill dislodges the zygote Which is captured in some sort of lining. Were is this lining when the fetus is captured?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:54 PM
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and allowed it to be captured She's still got a right to refuse the capturing procedure. Because it happens in her womb, If she doesn't want you in there hunting for a fetus then her body her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:51 PM
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Nope. You think that just because one procedure is not "more invasive" than another that means the person whose body it is to happen in does not have the right to refuse that procedure in favor of the other procedure. That's not how bodily autonomy works... there's no rule that says "and the only thing you've got a right to make that decision on is how invasive the procedure is, and other people get to look at your working and decide your answer is wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:47 PM
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I think it should be about unwanted parenthood and not bodily integrity. It has to be about bodily integrity too, because it happens in bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:33 PM
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From what I've seen of the world, the majority of abortions are done with the knowledge and approval of both genetic contributors to the pregnancy, with the shared understanding between them that in their particular situation a few moments of discomfort for a mostly unformed human being of limited consciousness and awareness is a better thing than the consequences for two self-aware human beings if the pregnancy continues. Personally I think those couples would still be justified in making that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 11:28 PM
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A lot of white people, especially white people who are of an age when they no longer have music inflicted on them on a near daily basis by their peers, just sort of edit rap music out of their awareness of day to day reality. One can't and probably shouldn't attempt to pay attention to everything and it is OK to just not bother with things that are aimed at a different demographic. We can't all be Iggy Azalea nor should we. But I do hear there is some discussion of rap among black feminists and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 09:39 PM
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More like reversion to the default after a trend has passed. There's not a lot of practical reason unrelated to social expectations about appearance for most girls to shave their legs... I mean I guess if you're an elite swimmer or you're part of a chorus line or some other performance group that is going for a uniform look? It isn't even like men shaving facial hair which has implications in terms of keeping the face clear of food crumbs and also making facial expression more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:43 PM
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I shave my armpits cause they would smell bad otherwise. As someone who rarely shaves her pits, my experience has been that the early stages of growing out hair this is sort of true. But when the hair gets to be over about a centimetre long something just seems to happen where the hair can "hold" more roll on deodorant than the perspiration situation requires, and so long as you apply deodorant after each bath the smell situation is actually very much improved over that involved in shaved pits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:44 PM
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I've never shaved as a regular thing or to wear skirts or tank tops in general, just when there's a particular outfit I think would look very much better without body hair. Neither of my daughters shaves regularly either. It is a lot of work and a small but real expense. I think any guy who has problems with that would just be a bad fit in general for our family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:37 PM
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That she banned you from IRC?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:29 AM
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She doesn't need to, you're so irritating that anyone would ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 03:47 AM
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Dear Incels... your anthem. https://youtu.be/TKQmcfTJ1GA
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 02:51 AM
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Incel threads should continue. They should continue somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:59 AM
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If you are not buff and are a NEET, you're voluntarily celibate through your own laziness. Perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:42 PM
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Like the really really short guys... jockey sized? Technically very tall midgets? Find a tall woman with great sense of humor and a comically extreme height gap from you, and suggest you date a bit as a visual joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:00 PM
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Nope. You are purging. If it was "real" it would be under usual rules and therefore in the stickypost ghetto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:58 PM
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Stop posting shitposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:40 PM
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Of course the incels will say "IT WAS PERFECT" No they won't. They'll say the rest of us ruined it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:38 PM
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Right now I'm kind of fond of eating a cup of yogurt with a teaspoon of honey and a sprinkle of cinnamon. No I'm not trying to eat healthy, I just hate mornings and find yogurt undemanding of me in terms of cooking and chewing. Sometimes I use stewed strawberries instead of the honey if I've bought a flat of berries at the local farmer's market and my family haven't eaten them all before they started getting squishy... I stew them with a bit of honey and/or sugar then freeze them in baggies suit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:38 PM
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Used to be all over the place in Australia in the 70s... now the only place I know local to me is at the main train station in my city. Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:23 PM
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Nah, KK donuts are crap. I'm talking the donuts that come out of those deep fat frying machines with the tractor feed system in them that turns the donut halfway through the cooking then dumps it out the other end into a dish of cinnamon sugar whence a surly red-faced minimum waged worker turns it over a few times to coat it then hands it to you in a paper bag, hot and fresh and smelling like who-cares-how-fat-I-get. That sort of donut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:06 PM
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Maybe you smell like a freshly fried cinnamon sugar donut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:58 AM
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That someone would be a fatty. Take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:57 AM
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Judge Judy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:38 AM
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Most 20 year olds are doing some sort of post secondary education. Yes, and they are also doing school based activities for the most part. If you do activities that aren't based around college/uni you will meet some students but also many people who aren't studying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:35 AM
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Hobbies, off-campus recreational sports and activities, while out in the world doing things. All the ways non-students meet each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:26 AM
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On campus... There are razorwire fences and gun-towers around this campus, that prevent you interacting with the rest of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:22 AM
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I generally recommend reading The Female Eunuch as part of any concerted attempt to understand what the fuck happened in the seventies. Not that it is 100% accurate or particularly well referenced, but because it was just so influential at the time as it spoke a truth that women of the time recognised... the public performance of womanhood had become so detailed, pervasive and demanding in women's lives that the performance meant any sense of really being a woman with lusts, passions, interests,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 11:16 AM
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Yes, please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:39 AM
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Yes well, maybe they need to stop using "see as sexual beings" as code for "be attracted to"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:30 AM
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Incels. We need to buy them an island and set up a sexbot manufacturing plant there. TRP. We need to buy them a neighboring island to the incels. They can design the sexbots and the sexbot marketing campaigns. The island can also include a small resort that offers free luxury vacations to women who can endure being relentlessly creeped on, because a TRP doesn't exist if he can't post exaggerated field reports. MGTOW. Some oil field somewhere. They can earn lots of money and fly in hookers. femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:27 AM
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CMV: women cannot see sub 8 males as sexual beings Do you seriously believe that women have not noticed that unattractive men want to poke their dicks in women just as much as attractive men want to poke their dicks in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:10 AM
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yeah whatevs https://youtu.be/fUYaosyR4bE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 10:02 AM
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P.s. not a fucking incel you illterate god damn fuckstain. Fucking incel is a contradiction in terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:28 AM
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It is just the same level of scrutiny everyone else faces in public online spaces. You and your concerns are not some special case of this. Stop being publicly ridiculous if you don't like being publicly ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:04 AM
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Yes, they can. I've seen plenty of "sub 8" dudes in relationships/with female companions. You know incels are just gonna show up and say those relationships don't count because blah blah beta chump blah blah cucking. And then they'll ask why so many people find them annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:45 AM
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We are told that looks don't matter and all we need is to have good hygiene, clothes and personality, then we would have any girl we wanted. No you weren't told that. You were told to wear deodorant, wash your smelly arse, get a shirt that fits in the shoulders and buttons over your gut properly, learn how to talk to people and then maybe you might find someone. SOMEONE. There was no promise of bikini babes in return for making a large effort except maybe some body building communities might pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:41 AM
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I just skimmed it because I get the impression that you're a sub 8 male, and so I don't really care about what you have to say. sporfle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:34 AM
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Oh ffs get over yourself. Millions of people have been sexually unsuccessful over the course of human evolution, it sucks for you but you need to learn how to be socially appropriate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:33 AM
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I've never attempted to get around even the most feeble attempts at real privacy. Totally unlocked and unscreened subreddits though? Yeah those I'll look at. If you haven't even pretended to hide something online then in terms if privacy it is a bit like doing whatever you are doing in the street. So go make yourself a bit of privacy and do your venting there if you want to not be laughed at by anyone other than your own kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:31 AM
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No way ime Reddit and 4chan goes much farther than academics are willing or able to Most professors are unprepared Arguing skills honed totally under the protection of anonymity are gonna make you fail real life arguments so bad you are likely to get thrown out of uni and the police called.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 06:28 AM
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You can pay a prostie to walk on the boardwalk with you holding hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:20 PM
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https://youtu.be/mO-OpFjHRbE The Ibis Song https://youtu.be/wvUQcnfwUUM In the Summertime https://youtu.be/bptnhUOG2GU Cry for Judas https://youtu.be/waa2ucfgVgQ Never Split the Party https://youtu.be/IYrySQsMjdE Moonbeam song
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:44 PM
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Then talk about it to each other in a private location. Or be laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:26 PM
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Why do people laugh at our unhappiness? Because a lot of the time it is ridiculous. You're like some idiot with hemorrhoids who won't eat a high fibre diet and won't shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:19 PM
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Sexual asymmetry? IDK, try wanking with the other hand occasionally, maybe that will sort it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:24 PM
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Oh ffs if you're having to crib off us, she's gonna wipe the floor with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:12 PM
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Slight improvement. Someone is still gonna misuse it. Some guys ain't got nuffin better to do than that sort of stuff. No shit, they do things like go back and comment on stuff from years back and you can tell they've read everything up to that point and intend reading the rest. One BPer was getting all her stuff that wasn't yet archived downvoted once a week, presumably via a script. If only those guys put as much effort into getting themselves some social skills. What would work is if the scri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:35 PM
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I carefully create a bunch of accounts that can't be traced back to my main account, email or ISP in any way, I report the people who I find annoying, they get banned with no human being ever having had to check whether this was a sensible choice. Maybe I do this for a lot of users because what I really want is to annoy the mods. Or at least I guess that's what I'd do if I was a loser with a grudge. Whew, good thing there are no losers with a grudge on reddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:27 PM
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Yep. Market bubble too. Had to bust sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:21 PM
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PPD can live without mods. Just have the users who both reds and blues report receive a warning, with progressive bans after several warnings. This can be done by a script. No possible way that could be abused, right? Have you got a bridge in Sydney to sell to the mods too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:07 PM
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You'd be back with another account.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:30 PM
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Probably because just killing an abusive boyfriend while he sleeps is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:28 PM
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Most of reddit would shut down if that was the ante.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:25 PM
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Sorry I don't follow rules I don't agree with. hahahahaha what a lie by omission that is, you've left off a clause. You don't follow rules you don't agree with when there is no consequence to you for not following them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:23 PM
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Fair enough, his outside is ugly now like his inside, that's kind of worth a chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:18 PM
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What women mean when they say that "looks don't matter" is really that "looks don't matter that much"... i.e. you have just declared that life is hopeless, you will never get a girl, might as be dead, come to think of it your parents keep a shotgun under their bed etc. And consider what they say as being intended to be heard as "looks don't matter that much" then indeed they are stating the truth, having been dealt a bad hand in terms of looks is no reason to give up on life altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:12 PM
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They weren't driven out. Because they were incapable of controlling their posting to an extent that other people would still be able to get what they wanted from the common space their posting was controlled for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:48 AM
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So literally the only people whose opinion you will value on the matter would be that of those men your own age who are wallowing in the same sort of learned helplessness as you. You don't want to succeed. Too scary for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:31 AM
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They are allowed to post here... if they keep to a few simple rules. And there's even a stickied thread where those rules are relaxed a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:21 AM
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There's plenty of married short ugly men. You need to https://youtu.be/unkIVvjZc9Y
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 03:19 AM
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I think I peaked at 6.5, maybe 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:15 PM
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I'd go as far as the wheelchair. Not so far as to be unable to speak and/or type. Not losing my sight or hearing. Not so far as to always be in fear for my life. If my partner leaves me I'll give him half and still be insanely wealthy. But don't you think the whole staying/leaving thing is a bit unimaginative as solutions go, when you've got a billion to fix problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:14 PM
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Yes. It would be a huge challenge to my sense of self and ability to negotiate social situations, but I could do it. And my family would not want for anything material for the next few generations. So if anyone wants to put a cool billion in escrow we can start talking terms for the disfigurement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:53 PM
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yep. Half the single girls in India would probably be up for marrying an employed tech dude with US citizenship after a short but careful courtship. But nooooo, they are incel!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:45 PM
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I'm 47 years old, aging right on schedule and taking it reasonably well because I'm the sort of person who tries to prepare ahead of time to meet emotional challenges. I could probably handle a downgrade to horrifically ugly without much of a fuss. We all go there eventually if we live long enough, I'd just have to adjust to it a little earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:35 PM
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Rich and unattractive of course. I'd be willing to be so ugly that dogs bark and small children cry at the sight of me if it meant being a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:24 PM
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He'd have trouble getting certain jobs. For example he's unlikely to get hired to do market research. If he's got other factors restricting his employment and the country has hard times economically well it all adds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:42 PM
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I don't know, I'd really have to talk with someone with that history and and work out the details of how he felt about his conscription at the time. Last time any of my mother's side of the family went to war was WW1, and it all ended rather badly for him and resulted in my great grandfather swearing it would be the last blood they get from us, and taking some rather drastic measures to keep the rest of his sons away from recruiting agents. I have zero desire to add anyone to my family if they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:39 PM
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Yeah totally, guys who have learned to treat women with dominance are exactly the same as guys who have been kind to women all their lives! /s Dude, just because a guy has never been given the opportunity to do damage doesn't mean he'll be harmless when given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:09 PM
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It can be minimizing and insulting in some contexts. Personally I'm glad that such a simple and harmless "tell" exists for sexism. You can just steer a conversation round to one of those contexts and in a few minutes you've got all you need to know about the guy's attitude to women. You walk away determined to never have the slightest bit to do with the guy ever, the guy walks away thinking he was stunningly witty and clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:01 PM
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The point you're missing (or lying to yourself about) is that the flavour you like "least" has a SMALLER chance of being poisonous. Not true. There's nothing special about ugly guys in terms of their goodness. Just as likely to be evil as any other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:55 PM
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I'm not big on the military, if someone has ever joined up it tends to make me think I'll never have anything in common with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:23 PM
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Low 40s guy is gonna be more likely to get treated as though he's attempting to commit a crime. Low 40s guy is gonna get sat at the shittier table at the back at a wedding because who wants that in the photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:22 PM
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https://youtu.be/TJPrRaXU4U0 https://youtu.be/2mkTPgZZXnU https://youtu.be/QvWj18LeU1g
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:19 PM
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If one in a hundred skittles is poison, then it makes even less sense to eat the flavour you like least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:11 PM
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Nope, the reality is ugly men can be and are assholes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:17 AM
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You're one of the guys who regards even the slightest of physical prerequisites as women only dating hot men. So y'know, pardon me if I'm avoiding guys who hit every ugly branch on the way down because life doesn't actually work in a way that automatically makes him a diamond in the raw, it is more likely to make him just some asshole who is not only ungifted genetically but also can't be bothered to do simple selfcare like toothbrushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:16 AM
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Oh I agree about crop tops... except for resortwear at the beach on holiday of course. Just high waisted trousers that sit at the natural waist are all about comfort for a lot of women, so if you've excluded them you've excluded pretty much any woman who chooses her work clothes to be utilitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:13 AM
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Not a red flag, more of a yellow one. I just think you've got rocks in your head for thinking high waisted trousers on women are a warning sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:39 AM
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The shitty brand here in Australia is Everlast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:30 AM
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Plenty of ugly guys are assholes too. Same risk, just you'd have taken it for a fuggo guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:28 AM
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I mean, women could just accept the "less than perfect" guys who are men of substance. You're not paying attention are you? There's narcissists and fuckups and assholes who have built a facade in the scratch and dint section too, shopping there doesn't get rid of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:27 AM
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Next you'll be telling me that cuffed business trousers are a red flag for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 01:53 AM
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And yet there are many people who eventually exceed expectations, often by a significant amount. A lot of people just have a hard time working towards goals when the path forward is not clear and certain. That's fine. You can stop trying and remove all doubt and uncertainty. You might be happier being doomed than actually having a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 01:25 AM
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If she wears pants over her belly button, that's a red flag You're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 01:11 AM
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You're well within your rights to give up. That's the work of a moment and then you can go off and concentrate on other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 12:00 AM
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Well whatever, I can't see you so I've got no idea how much could be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:59 PM
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The fact he manages to accomplish certain sorts of interactions because of the things he has done is not the same as him being given a prize for the times he has just not bothered. In the end nobody is going to think just not bothering is the part of anyone's life that is worth celebrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:48 PM
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If you want, but it is generally wise to experiment with less drastic measures first. For example get a makeup artist to contour your nose and live with that for a day and see how you feel before you bother with a nose job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:40 PM
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No, I understand completely, if your focus is on never expending effort unless success is a sure thing then you definitely should give up. But you need to understand there is no prize in life given out to the person who does the least unrewarded work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:36 PM
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You could see if getting your eyebrows shaped helps, grow some facial hair, wear coloured contacts, apply a tiny bit of very subtle eye makeup and use shoes/lifts to add at least 2 inches. Depending on your eyelid situation, eyelid tape might even be an option to fix droops. Not saying you have to do all these, but I bet at least two of these options would be worth your effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:34 PM
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I mean, maybe it's because I'm a guy, but I can fairly easily tell things like that. Like whether a guy is genuinely interested in the woman, or if he's just trying to bang her. Sigh. Women can tell too, a lot of the time. But telling 9 times out of 10 that the guy will be bad within the next few months doesn't get you that far. 99 times out of 100 telling he will go bad within the next decade would be more useful and if you say you're that good I just don't fucking believe you, you are lying. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:24 PM
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That's not strictly true. Women's attraction in the medium term is narrative as well as visual. So all the guys who fail to make the grade for instant physical attraction but also fail to evoke disgust are still possibles for a woman to suddenly find herself with a story in mind starring them. High 50s in a guy who knows how not to be 'spergily weird in how he makes advances is good enough to not evoke disgust in the majority of women. If a man knows quite a few such women then his chances of lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:16 PM
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Hard work will almost always make you more attractive, but it may not be enough - like a failing student going from low 40s to high 50s when 70 is the minimum passing grade. Attractiveness is multipurpose... some of the things it is useful for only need a high 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:03 PM
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They are gonna be hella pissed when they work out TRP has done them no favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 11:00 PM
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A man who is envious of women for being able to quickly get a lot of random dick up them obviously has not been to the right bath-houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:59 PM
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Put your husband in charge of cleaning up the poop. He'll find a way to let kitty know this is not welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:54 PM
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and time that they DO have is 100x better than men's, No. No-one much other than a few gay guys wants to get a billion random cocks up them, and that's about the only thing women have better than men. In what possible way is this having it 100X better? What's so bad about that? Unless a woman's ultra anti-marriage, by the age someone DOES have kids, you'd think they've found a stable mate, no? Stable does not necessarily mean happy, safe or respectful. The solution seems to just be women not bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:49 PM
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What serves those girls is encouragement in the form of positive examples of male/female romantic relationships. Totally inadequate in terms of self defense against bad relationships. All those love hormones just make people fill in the gaps until they decide the object of their love is all that. If you want to raise a girl to avoid the bad ones it takes giving her an unerring desire to ferret out the badness and a wide knowledge base of the different failings humans are prone to. Even then, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:59 PM
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Oh I'm fine, I've had my kids and am out the other side as a crone who gives no shits. It is the young girls I feel sorry for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 03:14 PM
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There is no reliably winning strategy. Sorry. Them's the breaks. Hence the anxiety and insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:23 PM
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On the up side, we can inspire men to be reliable assholes (the sexy kind), Pffft. Load of shit. Plenty of nice, pretty, feminine girls have had their faces smacked in by guys who did the Jekyll and Hyde thing. I mean sure be pretty, learn how to be nice, but no woman with any sense is going to see that as enough to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:11 PM
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We're under more time pressure and will probably have to deal with that by being dependent for a while when we raise kids, which really does fuck with your mind, it is like being told you will be shrunk to the size of a mouse for ten minutes each day and placed in a box with your cat. All over the place we see women being treated like shit as soon as they become dependent and guys who had previously been well behaved take it into their head that now they are king dick and owe you nothing at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 12:49 PM
2

At this point global warming looks like the most likely endgame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:18 AM
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We don't count on earning the money while men stay home, cos y'all don't want to do housework to our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:17 AM
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Challenge her husband to a duel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:28 AM
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What are you talking about? We get the 'bortions. Game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 12:02 AM
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I am saddened that this stunningly provocative comment is unlikely to result in the shit storm it deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 05:17 PM
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Because of... the incels who are saying that there needs to be massive systemic change involving restriction of the freedoms of others or others being forced to perform certain actions in order to please incels AND the incels who won't shut the fuck up and keep getting in everyone's faces if it wasn't for those two things we truly would not give a damn and you would be free to deal with your problems in private, like female incels do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 04:54 PM
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I can't see this working on a mass scale, Asians like eating whatever the damn hell they want and Jews got rules about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 04:41 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2551606/Vladimir-Putin-pictured-stroking-snow-leopard-Russia-prepares-host-Sochi-winter-Olympics.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:44 AM
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I can handle the sandwich the beer and the blowing but I draw the line at bringing sports into the house, some things are just depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 07:01 AM
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Any of the ones whose list of kills isn't fully identified yet but there are lots of clues. What can I say, I love a good mystery? Randy Kraft, Rodney Alcala, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 06:19 AM
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I've never done the balance sheet as I never found it important. Load of nonsense, every time you say you're not being respected enough, or you have to do x/y/z too much or get to do a/b/c too little, you're doing some sort of balance sheet. You've been doing balance sheets all along. Now, the harsh truth is, in terms of market value Hahahahahaha so the marriage vows included "and always value my partner at market value" But if I bring the market value to the table, she will feel that "I don't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 03:03 PM
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I think you don't know what she realizes. I think you've done your calculations and just assume her balance sheet has to look somewhat like yours, that it is not possible for her to see things you don't see or not see things you see or see the same things you do but value them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:25 AM
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I am quite a catch, far from rich, but in the top 1% of salary band, giving it all to my family Neither of you is quite the catch you'd be if you hadn't had kids already. I mean just saying. You gotta be realistic about that. Have you considered going to marriage counselling together? Not saying it will save your marriage but it often helps a few things get said. You've probably not got a particularly accurate idea how she is calculating what she gives, what she takes, what she has brought, what…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:07 AM
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If you've got some sort of problem that all the usual advice from all the usual internet sources doesn't fix, then there's two ways to get through it... develop insane amounts of a different sort of value (extreme wealth, fame, reputation) or take yourself off to a psych for five or six sessions and ask the psych to tell you how you are coming across as subnormal so that gives you your new starting point. To be blunt, I think the things you are asking about probably should belong primarily to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:46 AM
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Dude, here's some advice. Redpill thinks you need to lift because right now you are so much of a weakling that a woman can detain you. Bluepill thinks that if you smell shit everywhere you probably need to check your own shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 04:51 AM
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You haven't told enough of the story for anyone to really give a shit about it and I strongly suspect that if you did tell that much of the story we'd be of the opinion that it doesn't relate all that much to what we deal with here at PPD. Or to put it in a more simple therefore elegant manner... find people who care, they are out there somewhere but here is not the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 04:44 AM
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This is the sort of stuff one puts in some sort of personal journal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 04:40 AM
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I steadfastedly insist, throw pillows make no sense to anyone with testicles. Well next time I see the father of my children with a throw pillow neatly tucked under his head while he reads a book I'll know to grab it and whip it away quick like, on account of it making zero sense to anyone with testicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:21 AM
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There are no sympathetic characters in the story. OP... gets back together with someone who stalkishly gets around no-contact. No I don't give a damn that he calls it "plating", he is back together with her no matter what it is being called. He rewarded her persistence at being crazy and stalky, she's never gonna stop now. GIRL: Stalkerish and idiotic. MR Drinkwinewithme: Probably a rapist. Skeevy even if it wasn't rape. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:10 PM
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Well if it isn't your problem then I've gotta say, the figures you've been throwing round in terms of hours are nothing like the experiences of the women I know who have had trouble with male partners and housework. Mostly it seems to come down to initially making sensible deals (hey we both work full time... how about I shop and cook and you do dishes and clean the kitchen) and the guy continually "forgetting" that such a deal was made or coming up with excuses why it can't be followed. In whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:40 PM
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Is now a good time to ask how TRP is working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:25 PM
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I am so tempted to post a link to porn now. Fucking hell, how is an internet user this naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:16 PM
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So your problem isn't with housework, it is with the overall balance of the give and take. May I suggest marriage counselling? Sometimes if issues of balance in terms of who does what and who gets what are discussed in front of an impartial facilitator it can really help both parties see things they didn't before when it was just the two of them, it can also cut down on the urge to share details with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:09 PM
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Ironically, it's the "traditional household" approach that removes this problem... Because the woman has no expectation that the man will participate in her status game (household keeping) Hahahahahahaha oh you have no idea. In one of those strictly "traditional" households the men may not have to directly do large slabs of housework but are well trained to operate the shared parts of the household to strict guidelines. The father of my kids grew up in a house where just leaving a glass on the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:01 PM
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You place one decorative object in the middle that can remain when the table is used for eating but looks best if not cluttered with other items (such as piles of stuff and that paperwork you should be doing on that desk of yours you are too lazy to clear) and creates the expectation that the person using the table will clean up after themselves and put the item back to complete the display again. The flowers are there (rather than say, on the mantelpiece) in part to remind you that the table is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:47 PM
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The ones that smell like too much aftershave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:14 PM
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In order for him to get inside her, her clothes would have to come off at some point. If she was wearing a dress or skirt this is not strictly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:12 PM
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No, the flowers are a commitment to lack of clutter, as clutter on the table would ruin the display.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:08 PM
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I take naps on throw pillows, that's what they're for right? Naps, holding your head up while you read, propping your feet up if they are sore, putting between you and the upholstery if you are not sure about your cleanliness, customizing the lumbar or head support of the couch, turning the floor into a seating or laying down area if that's what you fancy, throwing inaccurately at the cat if it starts misbehaving, showing off some stylistic flourish that is a whim and you don't want to invest mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:04 PM
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In the old days men knew that if a woman was giving them sex with no cost and no commitment, then at the very least a little consideration and management of her feelings would be involved. I mean fair enough Ms "Imma go drink wine!" sounds pretty damn stupid and annoying, but that's typical for women who get into these "plate" dealios so there's nothing with her he won't have to put up with in others. I don't think he's really up for spinning plates. As loose floozies go she seems rather mild, j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:43 PM
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Even you should be aware that lawns are typically outside their dwellings. Socially speaking in terms of display they are very much the same thing as the dwelling itself. I doubt your wife asked you to spend five hours a week every week. I'm guessing from what you said that she wanted you to put in an extra hour or two for a particular occasion when that occasion happens. So that's like asking your wife who is on holiday from work to go out every couple of hours during a heatwave and water the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:35 PM
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And I shit you not, my immediate thought is "She fucked somebody else!" Of course, she is my plate so I dont give a shit, Which is why the speed with which his mind turns down that track and the exclamation mark after his conclusion, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:22 PM
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Well if we look at the cost of two hours housework and the cost of a sportscar, the housework is probably equal to a spare set of fuses for the sportscar fusebox. Not a particularly fair comparison to equate the two. You're just some who doesn't want to respect that something is important to your wife and that things that are important to one member of a couple have to be important to the whole couple, at least to the extent that occasionally an hour or two of work have to be spent on them. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:11 PM
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Either sportscast/excessive tidiness in households are status displays or they aren't. The question itself is biased by you calling the tidiness "excessive" Obviously the tidiness is not excessive in your wife's opinion. Since she's not here to put her case, I've got to conclude that it is as likely as not that her standard is not excessive. And it doesn't really matter if the tidiness (which she does not appear to regard as excessive) is a status display or not. Unless you're going to give up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 02:58 PM
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And then you have to change the flowers once a week etc. No you don't. You have to throw the flowers out and put the vase in the dishwasher when the flowers get manky... which you notice because you're occasionally eyeballing that table to see if anyone has gone cluttered it up and made it no longer ready for use. Doing this takes thirty seconds. Then you get new flowers when you feel like it... when you are checking out the garden and something is flowering or when you walk past a flowerstand i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 02:37 PM
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Men don't display status in the neatness of their dwelling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMLaRCrRR4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:57 PM
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His arguments are for the most part "waaaaaaaah no no no not WORK waaaah"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:50 PM
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Typical behavior of a 9 year old is being willing to spend four hours concocting and rehearsing an argument as to why they shouldn't do fifteen minutes of housework. I'm getting a very strong sense that is where you are at now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:56 PM
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This leads to men expending their free time conributing to a female status display they don't want to be involved in and causes them to get frankly a bit pissed off with the whole deal. Well that's marriage and being part of a team. I'm sure that occasionally she ends up contributing to your status displays. So why is plumping that cushion so difficult for you when she no doubt does stuff like remember to keep a supply of your favorite car washing detergent? This sounds to me like a rationale fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 11:46 AM
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Maybe they are off posting in the ghetto post because they can read instructions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 11:27 AM
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A house that is not clean, well-ordered, tastefully presented and uncluttered (including a fair amount of deep cleaning happening on a regular basis) is not in a state of readiness. It is not ready for you to do tasks that require use of surfaces and space such as spreading out a lot of paperwork or cutting a large piece of fabric. It is not ready to face a challenge such as flood, fire or infestation. It is not ready should you need to pack up your possessions and leave at short notice. It is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 11:13 AM
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She's not entitled for a high-value guy to not dump her, but she feels like she break up with you because you're not a virgin, Dude, I have to address one of your assumptions which you appear to have made out of ignorance of what it is to date and to court in societies where marriages are not arranged by the older generation. If something is a complete and absolute deal breaker to you AND is kind of common among your age cohort, it is sort of a responsibility on you to attempt to find out whethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:59 AM
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I wouldn't give him advice unless I'd already done a bit of an audit of what he was doing with his time, both at home and outside home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:30 AM
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I'm sorry you didn't get to go skydiving u/haleykohr
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:40 AM
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Wealthy. The things that must be done to turn attractiveness into wealth tend to repulse me. To me, Melania Trump's life is clearly a living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:32 AM
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False dichotomy. People are very rarely all strong or all weak, people are complex and multidimensional and those we see as strong people are often more realistically to be described as people whose strong side faces the world be it accidentally or deliberately. What is really dangerous in relationships however, is someone being incredibly strong in one way and weak in another way, and their weak side gets tested. For example, a very forceful and determined person who suffers from a large amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:29 AM
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Well yes, it all has to do with where you choose to punish, internally (ie, punish yourself) or externally (punish others) and girls are generally encouraged not to punish others because girls don't usually have the ability to do well in the resulting fist-fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:12 AM
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If you masturbate then go out in public to attempt physical approaches to random women without any real attempt to remove the smell of it from your hands. If you're a guy and you're doing that, please pour yourself a full pint of Domestos Lemon Fresh Bleach and drink it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:54 AM
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No. If I was single and looking again I could imagine myself trying maybe one date with someone I felt neutral about, but unless something sparked there would be no second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:20 AM
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Had she encountered or used sex toys at all in other contexts yet? Did her just pull it out and whack it on his pecker, or was there a discussion about or foreshadowing of what it was? Did he try to stick it in her while on his pecker, or use it on her in some way without her examining it first and forming an opinion? Was it scrupulously clean and new?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:14 PM
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You still haven't answered my question, did he pull this toy out their first time together? Answer my question and I might answer yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:04 PM
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Yes. Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:02 PM
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It's a lil thing that looks like Darth Vaders helmet 😸 Did he pull this toy out the very first time they were together?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:57 PM
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I think the weirdest thing about his post is the way he's regurgitated sales speil for us without any idea that we might be able to recognise sales talk when we hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:53 PM
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Toys are good for occasional play. They aren't scary. What is scary is the thought of becoming dependent upon machines to do ordinary stuff like walk, talk or climax. So yeah I'd start cutting up rough if I or my partner couldn't get there without some sort of machine to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:50 PM
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Has nice guy become code for incel here, and we gotta add it to the list of topics that live the stickypost ghetto?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:40 PM
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I don't compare love between the two genders, there is so much difference between individuals within each gender and their capacity for love that there is really no point doing that and to do so is entirely misleading. There are narcissists of each gender and saintly people too and all in between. There are people who love complacently and people who love actively in each gender. There are people who see controlling someone as love and there are people who see giving freedom as love in each gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:28 AM
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I didn't have kids when I divorced. There was no alimony. There was a small property settlement as we had a house with some capital value and a mortgage we were buying together that needed to be transferred to him and I wanted the few thou back I'd brought in at the start that had been used as a deposit. My experience was that my ex was working from an emotional assumption that all our money was his not mine because I was his not mine but he never was owned by me in that way. Not just the capita…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:56 PM
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Not you? The one who's been using him for free dates, free food, endless favors, an emotional tampon and someone to entertain you when bored? Dude, if you don't want to go out for coffee with someone, listen to them complain about their love life or help them shift house, just say no. Say no as often as it takes to put those activities into the place you'd like them to have in your life. That's the way to do it. So long as you keep saying yes people are going to rightfully assume you are happy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:26 PM
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If you use capital letters at the start of sentences your writing will be easier to read for people accustomed to reading more than just textspeak. I've covered some of what you talk about here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/70dom4/if_women_can_supposedly_tell_which_guys_are/dn2f53w/ and really can't be bothered reading what you've written carefully enough to write a more tailored response. The lack of capital letters makes it very hard to read carefully and for meaning with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:15 PM
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Sigh. Maybe you meant minds, not brains? So not "structured" in the way a bridge is made from concrete.... but "structured" in the way a bridge is made using the principles of engineering. Well that's ridiculous. Maybe you mean idk, something more like manifest rather than structured? I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say except that it obviously bears little resemblence to what you are saying. Your writing in general would be improved if you proofread your posts and worked out whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 10:05 PM
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Evo-Psych is a scientific discipline concerned with how human brains are structured. No. That's neuroscience. Evo-psych is what you get when paleontology fucks the reader stories section of old playboy magazines in a back alley and the resulting sickly and delusional bastard child gets handed off to sociology drop-outs to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:50 PM
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As far as I can see the dating pools have remained more or less in lockstep... fat women and fat flabby men become more common at approximately the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:40 PM
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I only care about my grade, Your grade is only worth a damn to you because it wasn't handed out for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:01 PM
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Why should it be easier? Shit gets real at the end of high school and thenceforth, you enter the adult world of scarce resources that you know are scarce. The exam has to be hard or it won't separate out the field effectively and the results will be useless for the purpose of working out who gets what opportunities. If we don't use the exam results what should we use... who whines louder? Who has the most social contacts? Whose dad is richest?The exam being hard is the best option. Pray for hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:08 AM
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It's a good way of boiling down the issue to simple concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:26 AM
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All the broads in WW-II who hitched up with the Nazi invaders (& later the commie/allied invaders). etc. What is your general level of understanding of occupied Northern France and Vichy France and the actions of the numerous male collaborators involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:24 AM
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If a guy won't respect your grandma he's not worth forgoing a bowl of icecream. If he doesn't respect his own grandma he's a straightout waste of nitrogen,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 07:10 AM
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You don't want to bang other guys or elderly women either, but other men and old ladies still show up in public. You just don't like the reminder that sometimes future access to your cock is a less appealing prospect to women than a bowl of icecream right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:59 AM
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For guys who aren't interested they sure are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:58 AM
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Preferences are preferences... you barely notice people having preferences, they just direct their attention towards what they prefer and it is no big deal. Tantrums are tantrums. I know tantrums when I see them. /r/fatpeoplehate or whether it was called was an epic communal tantrum
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:40 AM
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The tantrums thrown about fatties are very similar to the tantrums thrown about single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:37 AM
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When we are talking reproduction, genes that make someone attractive or unattractive matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:35 AM
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So you reckon he's got the MGTOW worked up to give a shit about something that really isn't their problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:23 AM
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you think that physical traits (that you have essentially no control over) are somehow related to the more heavily choice-related traits Well obviously deficiencies that are clearly genetically linked are worse in some ways. Why pass on to your kids and grandkids major deficits they will have no control over when you can choose instead a person with deficits that are able to be properly addressed over the next couple of decades through thinking through the issues and being persistent in trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:14 AM
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I have no idea why MGTOW give a shit. Shoo, go your own way! Haven't you got steaks to grill and beer to drink and a workshop full of man-toys to tidy? A lot of TRPer type guys just don't like the idea that every woman in the world isn't totally saving herself for him and spending all day every day in preparation to take his cock. So y'know, temper tantrums about single mothers, women who cut their hair short, fat women, women who invest in their careers, pretty much any woman who isn't mooning …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:58 AM
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Because most people limit the amount of pity party they throw themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:49 AM
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Just about everybody has impediments of some sort or another, the ways in which humans can be deficient are endless. If you have impediments you are normal. You are like everybody else. Those who lack impediments are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:43 AM
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It will probably not be something a guy or his family boast about or make known, more something a guy will tell just his best friends about. Female contraception in the upper classes will probably follow similar lines. If you look back to other eras when there was a great difference between the poor and rich, it wasn't exactly a good thing for a young man to get a reputation as someone who consorted with the lower classes, it definitely reduced his marriage value to women of his class. If he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:19 AM
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Oh yes, male birth control would make it all easier just as female birth control has. I'm not so sure it will lead to a particularly low rate of accidental births though. Most of the male birth control options in the pipeline seem to be ones that gradually wear out, and from what I know of guys and their risk taking behaviors and lack of desire to have their junk messed with there is almost certainly going to be for most of them a window in which they ain't shooting blanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:45 AM
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You know what it means, don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:27 AM
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Well duh, if you're monogamous and he's made it abundantly clear you were very much mistaken in choosing him because he presented himself inaccurately, full of lie and game not truth and value, what can you really do? He ain't it, you were mistaken. Either you move on or you live a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:24 AM
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By stopping whining and realising you are like everyone else, then taking up the challenge from that different starting point, you lose the majority of your impediment. No contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:22 AM
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Not really. There's probably something wrong with someone who doesn't complete high school, despite the fact that the final year of high school is usually the most stressful thing a kid has experienced up to that point. The major normal achievements of life are generally set to demand maximum effort and feel just barely do-able. Just like how human babies have just about the biggest heads that a human woman can squeeze out, and a before birth weight that just about kills a woman's back for the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:19 AM
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Guys can get away with fat if they look like they are bulking. They can't get away with fat if they show no sign of muscle buildup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:14 AM
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It isn't the not-being-able-to-achieve that's really the problem to everyone else. Nobody hunts down long-term singles who understand politeness, don't do creepy-ass threatening things and aren't whiney little bitches, they just let alone . What the effing problem is? Being a whiney little bitch about the exact same thing everyone else is having to go through. Imagine you're standing outside the hall to take a major exam, and there's five minutes to go and some whiney little bitchman is whining …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:11 AM
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Sigh. Guys have to have muscle as well as lack fat. No, that is not unfair... women have other things that get rated more heavily in terms of being requirements to be attractive, for example clear skin and a healthy head of hair are more of a requirement for a woman than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 03:01 AM
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So the real question is why does the female population see the majority of men as being unworthy of romantic attraction? Because most women are wired-up monogamous. Only seeing one partner at a time as worth it is how monogamy works. Do you want more women to be non-monogamous, and flit from dick to dick? That might make finding someone to raise a family with very difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:54 AM
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What would you suggest for these men? Well, first they've got to grow out of the final part of their adolescence by finding a little humility and realizing that the ordinary and normal achievements of human existence (such as pair-bonding and being sexually active) are for most people actually the attainments of a life's hard work... not a given or an effortless baseline that someone like them should clearly be able to do better than. This is in essence the latter half of the adolescent tantrum,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:48 AM
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Often the cheated on partner isn't materially ready to end the relationship and is horrified at the trap they have found themselves in. The lease has six months left to run... the youngest kid isn't weaned yet... they'd like to pay down their credit card first... they'd like to get a car so both of them leave the relationship with a car. That sort of thing. So they "take back" the cheater and start one by one unpinning all they ways they are pinned to the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:33 AM
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No. A lie that many enjoy, is obvious to all but idiots when it is being told, and can be washed away with a heavy rainstorm. We tolerate it because there is no reason not to. There's no law against men wearing makeup and indeed men have at times in the past worn makeup. Degrees of acceptability of makeup vary in part according to how hard people are willing to press to be allowed to wear it... back in my grandmother's era only whores wore rouge. The social pressure necessary to make it go away …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:28 PM
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Maybe they don't want to end up feeling bonded to anyone ever. Or maybe they don't want to end up feeling bonded over sex, maybe they want to form their pair bonds over other things such as power or politics or business success or spiritual beliefs. Maybe they want to put bog-standard average sexual pair bonding behind them in hopes that way they will not get sidetracked from looking for something exceptional. Not everyone wants the average experience, not everyone wants to stick close to the ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:38 AM
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Plenty of women will forgive cheating for instance. The fact someone is still around and tells you they've forgiven you doesn't necessarily mean they've forgiven you. Sometimes they've just decided that lying to get their own way is OK now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:58 AM
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I'm not particularly looking forward to it but I must admit to some curiosity about what it will do to literature. Will we see upper middle class young men reading romance novels? No personal freedom to speak of, so boys will read about pirates having sex on the high seas, a highland chief taking captive the daughter of the chief of a rival clan, etc etc just as girls do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:40 AM
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Then go talk to some of those many people... that there are many should make them even MORE available to you to query.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 03:21 PM
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Tracking who people are by DNA is becoming more and more precise. They find your cousins, second cousins etc now when you get a familial DNA analysis. Back in the seventies none of this existed. We're only halfway through how that technological change plays out, soon they will be able to find the father no matter how little the mother can tell them about him. Twenty of you fucked a whore at a frat party, she knew none of your names? Tough shit, if your sperm swam fastest the bills are yours. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 02:44 PM
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Go talk to the person who posted it if you want to know what they think and why. FFS, it isn't our job to play psychic just cos you're gutless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 02:31 PM
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Is the "TERF bangs" a thing radical feminists in general have? Nah, lots of women and girls wear blunt fringes, its an incredibly common style choice and most women have tried it. But it is a hairstyle that spells instant disappointment to any woman who neither has a perfectly feminine face nor is willing to see masculine elements of her face highlighted, so I guess transwomen get a double dose of fucked off when they see terfs rocking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 02:27 PM
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IDK dude, why don't you ask the person who wrote that tweet? You've presented evidence of precisely one person feeling that way, and some other people who feel that way but probably not enough to actually write anything new about it themselves, so go talk to that one person, don't ask us to play psychic for you. Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 02:01 PM
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The upper classes are going to become very jumpy about their sons having sex with poorer women. The databases of who is who in terms of DNA are getting more and more complete, as is monitoring of people's financial means. Soon it won't even matter if she knows your name or not, the government will find you and you will pay and that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:47 PM
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You're not in competition to look better than women, you're in competition to look better than other men... who have access to the same armoury of socially approved sartorial weapons as you do. You have not been disadvantaged unless you are a gay guy who is in a struggle with a woman over the attention of a bi guy. Any how, don't for a moment think male clothing is devoid of these aspects. Why do you think we put creases in suit trousers? Why do you think jeans are so popular, with the indigo fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:52 AM
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I'm a little kid, don't know how old but it must have been around the 7 years mark. My mid-teenage sister has got a job, left school and left home already due to fighting with our narcissistic father. My father decides we drink too much soda (a fair parental decision) and has decided that we will henceforth drink learn to tea at dinner instead (unfair, a choice made without consulting us, to satisfy his own ego and opinions on what white anglo Australians should be like) and I have my first argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:55 AM
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I guess we'd need some device to scrub the testosterone from the blood entering the placenta and add it back after it leaves. Theoretically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:30 AM
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I'd call that woman fucked up, unhealthy, unwomanly. So in not becoming a mother she is making the correct choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:28 AM
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If you're impregnating women who don't care about you then what do you expect? Be the sort of person who is worth caring about, choose sexual partners who care about you, treat them in ways that help them continue to care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:57 AM
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You're right. But can't they still depict the passion, sexual tension, and "chemistry" that really exists IRL? In the same way morphine can depict the sense of warm joyous feeling one gets after pushing hard at exercise. You've got to be careful with manufactured experiences, they aren't the same thing as the natural product. Real life doesn't have a script writer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:50 AM
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You're probably some sort of outlier who gets enough of the chemicals floating round his brain without actually having fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:46 AM
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It fills my brain with all sorts of emotional chemicals when I watch those scenes of the couples together and the scenes of the magic/fire/spark/passion/intimacy that they have; it's powerful; sometimes there is a "comedown" after I watch those scenes where I have a sad feeling in my stomach, and I have no idea, but I wonder whether it's like coming down from drugs since the emotional chemicals are leaving your system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-coital_tristesse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:12 PM
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None of them but then again I'm in my late forties and women tend to prefer more masculine men at my age. However... when I was at the age that TRP is all about trying to bed... from my teens to my mid twenties... I'd have given Kaulitz more than a second glance. Indeed, when I was 14 a great many of my female classmates cut class to go see Boy George appear publicly for just a few minutes. I sort of wished I had too, but I was too well behaved. Look at him there, thrilling the little cotton soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:26 AM
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Yeah I agree with that. If someone goes out after a bad argument that is the latest in a long line of bad arguments, has comfort sex with someone other than their partner, then returns home and says "Y'know what... fuck this bullshit I'm never having sex with you again, I've just had some of what I've been missing and it was good, I'm outta here" that isn't cheating in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:43 AM
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The majority of the unfaithful spouses Madden sees in her office react similarly when faced with the fallout: “They usually don’t realize how devastated their husband or wife would be ― they figured their spouse would just be angry,” she said. “Once they see the damage they’ve inflicted on their loved one, they don’t want to cheat again.” I don't trust her perceptions. Of course people are going to lie to the couples therapist about cheating. Cheaters are usually people who are either straight-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:39 AM
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The purple label exists purely for my own convenience in dealing with the world... were I to label myself just red or just blue I'd get whiners complaining that some of the things I say don't fit the label. So I label myself purple and they can suck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:09 PM
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I've never known one that wasn't crap at handling money and keeping to a budget. I've never known one that had much respect for the truth. Anyhow, use prostitutes if you want, there's a bunch of people who will find you disgusting for doing so but since those people aren't fucking you anyway that's not such a problem. However, just in case you ever have a real lover, keep in mind you are not as good a lover as the prosties are telling you that you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:07 PM
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Most men will settle for the average girl though. Too bad 80% of women are overweight. And god forbid you say to a woman "sorry, don't date fat chicks" their head explodes. Your maths is borked. If 80% of women are overweight then overweight is the average girl, and if most men would "settle" for an above average girl that clearly means the average men among them have got an unreasonable opinion of what "settling" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:41 AM
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Most people have barely any idea about how to live a meaningful life and being in the SMP doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:46 AM
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Well I hope we've all learned something from this. What certain incel posters want to do to this subreddit will change the subreddit to something which most current posters don't want and don't feel comfortable with and therefore changing it will probably cause it to self destruct. Whether that is what those incel posters actually want, or whether they want what they say they want and but lack the insight to see that is impossible is not relevant... what we have in PPD is a space that has been c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 01:53 AM
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Make your own debate subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 01:28 AM
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This belongs in the stickied mega-thread. I agree this belongs in the megathread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 07:39 AM
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I'm open-minded. I just want to sharpen up what I think about this concept. Have you considered that one of the uses of the concept is to enable further refinement of distinctions between the attractiveness of very physically attractive people? Take, for example, beauty contests. They usually include a bit of question-asking designed to draw out the contestants into revealing whether they've ever thought about anything other than mascara and swimsuits. People who have both high RMV and SMV can p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:46 PM
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Back in the eighties I worked with a very pretty and sociable blonde girl called Lara who carried a balisong because guys didn't know how to back off. If you have trouble focusing on whether what you are doing is acceptable, just ask yourself... is Lara there getting ready to stab you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:46 PM
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Do WHATGMG women see themselves as deserving of an “eligible” man? Perhaps, but only in a passive sense. Most emphatically they do not see themselves as having to earn such a man or of actually earning such a man. The idea of "earning" a partner is just ridiculous. Finding a suitable and willing partner is a HUNT not a JOB.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 11:49 AM
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The word "shallow" is a way of conveying swiftly to others that someone has a very strong manifestation of a particular bias in perceiving and dealing with the world. It isn't nonsensical, it is a thoroughly useful descriptive term by which people can quickly describe a great deal about another person. If you don't find it useful don't use it yourself. Other people, however, aren't going to stop finding it useful just because you dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:53 AM
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He's run out of good material and now he's jumping sharks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:35 AM
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guys who are unlucky in dating If they've made more than just a few approaches we aren't talking luck, we are talking about them being incompetent. And they know it, they know they are incompetent. Avoiding responsibility by pretending not to know what is really going on is highly unattractive. It is the sort of thing that fills vaginas with sand and centipedes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:34 PM
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They know why they can't get dates every bit as much as the last kid picked when a physical education class is picking teams knows why it is that he or she is not picked first. Yes they are behaving entitled to everyone's time, effort,presence and attention when they put on a disingenuous face to the world and ask "But why?" Sophistry is not going to change a reality that everyone whose opinion matters can see clear as day. By the way, arguing "Well sometimes people like you make a mistake and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:02 PM
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You need to concentrate on learning skills more than scripts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:45 AM
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Well, there's competent assholes and incompetent ones. Maybe 90% of assholes are incompetent. As far as incompetent ones go, they just play the odds as hard as they can. Everybody gets their own tragedy, that one situation their own fatal flaw did not let them avoid despite the fact that everyone else managed to avoid it. That's the thing... when women get together with creeps or men get together with borderlines, we can mostly all of us see what is happening except the person it is happening to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:36 AM
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Well that's the thing, even a quite moderate property settlement from a wealthy marriage is going to be enough for a woman who came from poverty to feel secure and well provisioned. The poor aren't scared of shopping at thrift stores, living in a very nondescript part of town, having to work and spending any time off work at home rather than travelling. What they are scared of is not being able to keep medical coverage during gaps in employment, not being able to ever own their own home, not bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:57 PM
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This. Marry too far below yourself and her family will be useless to you. Also, women from lower in the social strata are used to getting by without a lot of money and if you annoy them they are unlikely to stay just for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 12:14 PM
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Guys are just more likely to be overconfident. You see it in car accident statistics too... both men and women have accidents but women's accidents tend to be little dings, it is guys who are more likely to wrap their cars around telephone poles at great speed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 11:21 AM
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It is about authenticity as a character trait. Be authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:09 AM
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Still, I'm quite frankly baffled by trail22's utter, complete, and total lack of success - any ideas as to why his failure with women was so complete? I suspect that to understand why, one would need to meet him in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:53 AM
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How might this be done? By seeing the other guy's point of view. Just ask yourself the question "what do other people experience when I behave this way"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:04 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:41 PM
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Dude, there's ways of discussing stuff on the regular like that won't get everyone's hackles up. All it takes is a little thought about one's audience and what their experience of your performance must be like for them and whether it really is a good idea just to fire off posts in a manner that pleases your ego first rather than is designed to accomplish the work you think needs accomplishing. Buuuut incels ain't all about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 05:50 AM
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Taking the car the offense was committed in (even if it their parents' car) works pretty well for youngsters. Makes their parents more concerned to stop drink driving too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 05:45 AM
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And the US drinking age was raised in the 1970s? Little to do with religion.. More like dumbass kids getting drunk and killing people with their cars. And since then we've developed affordable roadside blood alcohol testing, and that problem can largely be dealt with by giving younger drivers a zero blood alcohol limit while driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:16 PM
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Well for starters, it doesn't seem to actually stop 18 year olds drinking... but it does mean that their early learning about drinking lacks the diversity of safe venue choices that is in place for adult drinkers. For example, an 20 year old probably isn't going to go out to dinner and order a couple of glasses of house wine during the meal in the USA... which is probably one of the safest and healthiest common drinking patterns there is. An 18 year old in the USA probably isn't going to have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:33 AM
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Such as how we had to give them their very own ghetto threads for discussing their shit topics that we're well and truly tired of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:38 AM
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Guys who are 3/10 always imagine guys who are 4/10 are really 7/10. That way they can imagine themselves to be 6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:37 AM
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Pfffft. Daily we see evidence in this very subreddit of the needy clingy attention-demanding nature of low value dues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:36 AM
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If anyone is always going to be demanding constant reassurance and attention it is the low value dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:20 AM
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So is the "37 year old woman left in the dust because her vagina is too old and rusty, is now surrounding herself with cats because no male wants her" even true? From what I see of those of my friends who took that route, it wasn't the lack of guys that caused that decision, it was a combination of how high maintenance even low value guys are and how much easier it is to use all the money and energy in pleasing oneself. If at any stage they really wanted a guy enough to put in the effort, they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:50 AM
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Purple woman. The drinking age here is 18, and uni students drink in bars and pubs like grown ups. This is, as far as I can tell from what I hear of frat parties, infinitely preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:46 AM
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If it is too much for you then don't spend that much. I don't think it is unreasonable that most people are choosing to spend around that much... the ring has to be sturdy to last 50+ years and that by itself takes up rather a lot of money unless you are willing to go for a bulky silver ring where the bulk of the ring rather than design and workmanship is what is creating the sturdiness. Add on a bit extra to get a personalised look you're actually thrilled with and well, $2500 or so doesn't see…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:12 AM
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I remember my sister dating in the seventies. I remember my brother not dating during the seventies. And I remember my own fledgling social life in the early to mid eighties. For starters there were no mobile phones or email. Most households had one phone, some wealthy households had two or more phones but if that was the case they were still usually (unless the family was outrageously wealthy or had strange priorities) all on the one line. There was very little damn privacy for your communicati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 12:53 AM
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He should lose some weight before this should even be a consideration, see if his wife is more aroused by the thought of sex with him then. Sex involving a fatty (and if he's a guy and is calling himself fat you KNOW he's obese... guys are capable of denial right up until the point they can't see their erect dick because of fupa) is... well let's just say it is more work and less comfy (crushing... weight... huge belly pushing... the physics of extra mass during momentum... the extra pushing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 12:11 AM
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Outside of reddit? the famous hanging chad http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/collection/chadhang.jpg Kmart Australia have a range of economical socks and underpants for men. http://www.kmart.com.au/product/3-pack-fitted-stripe-trunks/957883
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:47 AM
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Women can opt out through abortion or adoption, why can't men opt out once it becomes clear that the woman is pregnant? You don't know much about adoption do you? Just about everywhere but Utah there's just about zero chance of a mother adopting out a newborn without the consent of the father if the father is either named on the birth certificate or in the process of proving paternity through the courts. I mean like maybe some places she could go to court and make it happen if the father is at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:39 PM
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I don't mean to press you Nevertheless you are pressing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:56 PM
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I think one must distinguish between putting a label on a person's character and finding them guilty of a crime. The sober person who fucks a seriously drunk stranger that any reasonable person would regard as unable to consent has shown themselves to be rapist in character, even if luck has it their actions are legally absolved on the morn when the drunk stranger becomes sober and decides it was all OK. A person doesn't have to have successfully committed a crime yet to have shown full willingn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:17 PM
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Hmmm, four instances for me, none of which went so far as rape, none of which fit the narrative you say "PPD is most interested in". Instance one, an ass groping when I was ten years old. I ran off, got a pair of scissors and tried to stab him in the chest. After I was subdued and my mother was freaking out, I told him that if he ever fell asleep around me I would get a knife and slit his throat. He stopped staying overnight. 1.Yes he was drunk. 2.Well yeah I guess... he was dating my mother and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:56 PM
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My brother. Eventually settled in his mid forties with someone who... argh I can't really give the details because it makes him too recognisable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:33 PM
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If you only have the capacity to perform a certain number of times a day, wouldn't it be a bit awful to be under financial pressure to offer up those limited occasions to activity that maybe isn't very close to what you prefer? I mean I'm not a great consumer of porn so maybe I've got the wrong idea, but most of it that I've seen doesn't pass the "these people are really into this" test. There's lots of doing that swingy, shaky, thumpy thing with their half-hard dicks that is (as far as can tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:04 PM
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I mean it is like receiving a goldfish as a prize ain't it? The goldfish costs maybe 50 cents at Walmart and maybe another 5 cents for the baggie it is in, but needs a tank, a filter, food, a modicum of knowledge with regards to care and feeding, ultimately a very large tank and the space to put it in, lighting for the tank if you want it to look good, no extended periods of time without electricity to run that filter etc. And goldfish have been known to live 40 years. Don't treat living things …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:45 PM
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Why is someone that disabled running around at liberty unguarded at college parties? A party is a like a street, safer at some times than at others. The first hour and a half or so of even a heavy drinking party is usually pretty safe so long as you stick with people who aren't obviously intent on getting drunk as quickly as possible. Disabled people like to meet new people too... along with all the shy aspie girls there are shy aspie guys at frat parties just trying to taste a bit of normality …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:27 PM
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mother's boy can't hold down a job addictions regular rather than occasional porn use fat but thinks he isn't fat or fat but can't stand fat girls holds other people responsible in an ongoing way for shit about himself he can fix messy lives payday to payday doesn't make his bed or clean his toilet displays of anger about trivialities
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 11:53 AM
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A sizable proportion of those who did get a life partner decide later it was a bad bad idea. Some of those divorce, some of them just decide it is too late to start over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:11 AM
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That plan, along with egg donation to get a nice early influx of $$$ and deal with any lingering doubts about the need to leave a genetic legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:10 AM
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There are various possible points at which this shift to from non-consent to consent might occur. Would it totally blow your mind if I told you that the opposite can also happen... a situation can go from consent to nonconsent?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:00 AM
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Disabled rights issue. You don't get to just assume that everyone you meet is an able bodied person of average or greater competence. If you take a wallet from a blind man or a man with cerebral palsy who is incapable of putting up much protest or an epileptic man who is fitting, it is still theft unless consent to the taking of the wallet had been obtained. If you stick your dick in a terrified looking woman who can barely talk and offers no assistance and needs to be manhandled into position, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:54 AM
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At her parents beach house Really? All thin and pretty women on the west coast had parents who could afford a beach house?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:01 PM
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Women's desire is often seen as gross or disgusting to the point of provoking backlash if it is a less than complete gift to a man. If she has had other men, of she continues to have other men, if she only wants sex the once or only on her terms, if she can't be bothered tissying herself up to be attractive, if she charges for her favors, if she has an agenda of her own, if she refuses to be open to having children. The difference is, men lack the immediate sense of insight to reject what they f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:48 PM
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You're just not qualified to be a father until you can master basic social skills like eye contact, turn taking, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:27 AM
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Paternity testing is not illegal in France, it just requires permission of the court. I should imagine some circumstances the court just rubberstamps without much fuss, and others the applicants will be sorely out of luck. Now I'm not saying that is how things should be or that the French shouldn't change their law if they wish to do so... but there is a fairly strong argument that one half to one third of the information involved is the property of the child, and that in many circumstances it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:10 AM
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I'm in Australia, I've been to uni. That stuff isn't allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 02:53 AM
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As an example, if a woman considers an unattractive male coworker complimenting her on her looks to be "sexual harassment" or something similarly inappropriate, then she can't suddenly be fine with it if an attractive man does it. One of the reasons the attractive guy is attractive is that he has the social skills... the timing, the sense of occasion, the knowledge of how much is too much... to give a compliment under circumstances that are fraught with complications. If a woman believes men sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:59 PM
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Hey u/rulenumber303, does the stuff this guy describes sound realistic at all - that kind of prejudice against men in fine arts? As an American, it sounds fucking insane. Doesn't sound realistic at all. Outright stating that one gender is going to not be able to get good marks will get you in serious trouble at all government funded colleges and universities. Stating that one gender will not be able to understand certain content likewise... although definitely stating that one gender may find it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:50 PM
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Comic-con is full of costumers. I mean not just cosplayers, but people who make costumes. Are you counting them as geeks or not? If not then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:48 PM
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I think he should start by considering whether his patterns of reddit use scream "fucking hell I would not like to know this guy in real life"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:34 PM
1

He needs to work on making his brand of awkwardness not so creepy. Seriously, awkward can be creepy. Even in women it can be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 10:50 AM
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not getting tarred and feathered as creeps Don't be creepy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 10:43 AM
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High n count women are a red flag for negative self-image and avoidance of emotional intimacy. We live in a world in which avoiding emotional intimacy during one's educational years and waiting until one's cohort's working futures are somewhat settled is a highly sensible choice for both men and women, because then one can choose someone who isn't going to be a damp squib career-wise. Both sexes are in the same boat there, screwing to pass the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 06:50 PM
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Men. That's why they aren't as big fans of written erotica as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:08 PM
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This. Getting so sick of guys saying "empathy" when what they mean is "be down to fuck" Seriously, if girls weren't fucking him before he went off and paid for sex, dipping his dick in a place where a thousand dicks before have been, then there's no reason for them to fuck him after just cos he throws a pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:55 AM
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I can feel for the plight of heroin addicts but I'd still never trust a junkie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 04:23 PM
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Someone sounds clinically depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 07:56 AM
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Gross, don't know where it has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:43 AM
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chad chad chad blah blah blah chad chad chad. Chad is shorthand for "imaginary guy that makes low value men feel hopeless in every possible way" Therefore of course all women will slut out for Chad. This is implicit in you using the word "Chad" However, if you bother to take a holiday from your inferiority complex that makes you use terms like "Chad" and spend some time in the real world... no, not every woman seeking a relationship will quickly have sex just because a guy is very appealing to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:33 PM
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For an intimate relationship to be acceptable to me there needs to be agreed boundaries round it so that people we don't both approve of aren't being let in too far. That boundary is both a physical and an emotional one and isn't just about romantic relations with others. For example there's some things I'm mightily offended if my partner tells his mother. If the boundaries break down then the relationship becomes more and more uncomfortable and unsustainable as a relationship. I don't really di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:05 AM
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I was not in the least bit attractive in any sense (not just sexual) before I went through adolescence. Life is fucking hard for the ugly. Ever had a car load of young men slow down to make dog barking noises at you, then throw eggs at you? Yeah. Fact remains, nobody is gonna blame you for what they don't know. When I was twelve for about three months after a particularly egregious incident I thought the world would maybe be better off if we castrated all men except a select few to be kept under…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:15 PM
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1.Yes everyone does that... some of the time. 2.Yes everyone should do that... some of the time. 3.Eh. You've got to disengage your emotions in order to get a specific sort of view of the situation that is very useful but on the other hand if you leave your emotions disengaged all the time what happens is emotions crawl back in and take over but you don't realise they are emotions. Never trust someone who says they look at situations only logically and never emotionally, they are lying not only …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 09:18 AM
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You can't be blamed if you keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:49 AM
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A man could be a Navy SEAL, Harvard-educated doctor, and astronaut; he might never have a romantic relationship in his entire life if his jaw is weak. Don't be ridiculous, a strong jaw is sexy but a weak jaw is easily overcome by just not being a weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:48 AM
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Everyone likes fresh baked bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:25 PM
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Most of the things women expect from men are things that are good for the man too and he would do for himself for his own sake if he was rational and not lazy. So in general no, women do not expect "too much" I mean sure there are some things that many women prefer that not every man can just go get... but y'know, that's true of men's expectations of women too and when those are the only things a person doesn't have someone's going to compromise to make a relationship happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:21 PM
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'zactly. I've seen people fired before for unsolicited manifestos that were closer to their expertise and role in the company, and far more obviously needed and correct. Most notable in my memory is a "sales should not make promises the maintenance department will have to reneg on" manifesto, that was totally and completely on point... and yet the writer got canned and I can see exactly why. A company will only reward you for comprehensively damning an aspect of how it goes about business if it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:20 AM
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Yeah 15 months isn't totally out of line with what a guy has been sentenced to. Depending on how you choose to look at it it could be a little high or a little low, but it is within the ballpark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Francis_Melchert-Dinkel
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:03 AM
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1.Hasn't he got, like, some engineer work he should be doing? I mean I get it he wants to set himself up in HR right up the top of the heap telling them all how to run things without having qualification or experience. But if he was hired to engineer than chances are engineering is where he's going to be best value to the company. I'm not a HR expert either, so whatever. 2.Well he does sound like the sort of guy women aren't naturally attracted to, so TRP isn't out of character. 3.Probably male.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 11:50 AM
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Whatever. Don't have kids. More resources for my kids. Fewer people in the world who are like you. I'm the sort of person who believes we should sterilise people for free upon their request with as little waiting time as possible, and laugh at them when they ask for help to pay for reversing it. Parenthood is... pervasive is I think the best term for it. It takes over both one's selfish side and unselfish side. Rather more of a vocation than a job when done adequately. Is it selfish or unselfish…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:53 PM
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Asians don't have universally well behaved kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:42 PM
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Everyone's potentially got a problem with assholes. Exhibit A... the decent guys that BPD chicks seem to pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 01:22 PM
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Eh. Women end up with a fairly finely tuned sense of how men are ranking them, it isn't like we aren't witnesses to how men act with other women. We notice who is more likely to get bought drinks or offered a lift home. A lot of guys are even kind of retarded when it comes to systemizing their approach efforts... every woman has more then once had the experience of witnessing a guy work his way fruitlessly through a room at a party in exact order of how attractive he finds the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:25 AM
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Maybe they are trying to pretend to themselves that they'd never form a trusting relationship with someone like her, that because of how she looks they'd be on to her from the start no matter how well behaved she seemed? I mean it is kind of scary to think certain things. We'd all like to think we'd be one of the ones who didn't trust Ted Bundy, who saw the creepiness as well as the well formed features and told him no when he asked for directions or for help or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:57 AM
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Who wants to date a girl notorious for convincing her boyfriend to commit suicide? I guess she might make a presentable GF for someone who likes to cultivate notoriety? Maybe an edgy alternative musician of some sort?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:46 AM
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A strong brow is currently fashionable, she seems to have overdone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:36 AM
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Because I'm interested in your answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:29 AM
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Do I "want" a harem? No I don't. Does my dick want a harem? Yes, he really wants to have a harem. What is more "you", your dick or your conscience? I mean just saying, put the average man in a situation that comprehensively strips him of his conscience and he just seems to get up and keep going after a few sleepless nights maybe with a few flashbacks. Some guys even seem to be born without a conscience at all and manage to get through life with few complaints. But if a man is born with no dick o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 09:34 PM
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The ones who occasionally seem to be saying "if I could just have a slim young woman dedicate her life to me then my whole life would be different and I'd be a success for her... I'd get that job, I'd lose that weight etc etc" Errrr, no. If you can't get it together even when so strong a desire as lust demands it of you and you've got all that spare time that would otherwise be spent doing couples stuff, then you sure as fuck aren't going to be getting it together when the lust is no longer pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:41 PM
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Wait, how can you blame introversion for fatness? They have nothing to with each other. I blamed fannish introversion which is different to plain old introversion. These are people who value many sedentary pursuits. Fannish extroversion tends to lead to costuming (it is called cosplay now isn't it?), photography, board game nights and other stuff that means a person at least breaks intellectual focus occasionally to get out of their chair. The economics of personal choices, in terms of spending …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:46 AM
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Women get sex handed to them purely for existing and not being obese. Well yes as a woman who is not the size of a hippo one can usually find someone to stick his dick in you. But having sex with guys who hate everything about you except the immediate and vigorous use of your body is risky. For starters, everyone involved in that sort of shit tends to be drinking/drugging to be able to tolerate the bad aspects of it... then things like this happen. http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:41 PM
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I generally develop my fictional crush in my imagination until it is so oddly specific that the real thing obviously isn't going to be as good, at which point what I've basically got is a fanfic thing happening. I bloody well know that guy isn't going to agree to run away with me and travel the world by boat for a year going from tropical island to tropical island. This is sort of like choosing to go forward into my imagination and out via recognising that reality ain't that good, rather than ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:33 AM
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Judging is what humans do. You will be judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 01:13 AM
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His arse makes a perfect kicking target, however if you want it for other purposes you can have twenty minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:38 AM
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What... your other reply of Yea, including yourself. I think that's the blatant oversight your absurd levels or arrogance lacks. I'm calling her in the evening because I said I would. She doesn't want to loose access to professional resources I posses, as well as the fact that I'm one of the most attractive dudes she knows. She had bad behavior over the weekend. & on Sunday I heavily implied I was downgrading her. She got mad/then freaked. It sounds like a baldfaced lie to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:36 AM
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We'd probably nationalise sperm production.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:16 AM
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Guess anyone can say any bullshit online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:12 AM
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No, girls won't ghost you if you're high value. This is what you said. In response to me responding to someone complaining that girls will ghost after an argument. Girls have always had a high rate of ghosting after what the first argument reveals. Being a high value man makes very little difference. Stop trying, you're being an embarrassment to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:07 AM
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Good for you! A lot of people need to just calm down and realise that sometimes things don't work out and that's down to a multitude of factors and that if things don't work out in the early stages that doesn't necessarily mean someone has let someone down badly. If just accepting a date or a dance or a conversation or a visit from someone were to lead to the sort of level of obligation to make things work out that theiamsamurai thinks it can, then no-one would ever ever take a risk and make a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:54 PM
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People fly halfway round the world just to go see interesting places too, her willingness to give it a go (which she did... but his behavior was just very unattractive) was not the only thing at the end of that plane trip. it wasn't up to her to judge whether the entire trip and making the attempt was worth it to him, that was his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:44 PM
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No, girls won't ghost you if you're high value. Girls ghost guys who are high value but not to them personally all the time, I've seen it among my age cohort and my daughters' generation. Lawful girls ghost guys who they discover do illegal shit, girls who know damn well what abuse looks like ghost guys who argue using methods that are abusive, girls with a need for certain sorts of respect (for example, punctuality) ghost guys who just won't give that respect, girls who have one idea of what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:38 PM
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When despite all the ways in which parents and schools try to direct them away from that outcome someone decides to over the course of years live a lifestyle that leads to them being a fat lazy meek slob, we quite reasonably assume they've made deliberate lifestyle choices after examining where that lifestyle leads to. At which point all there is left to do is tell them to at least be genuinely what they've chosen to be and not be a dick about it. That way they don't add "fake" and "jerkish" to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:36 AM
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Dating apps. They are a double edged sword. The bad thing is it gives the illusion of unlimited choice. Women get 10 messages a day commonly. Guess what happens if you get in an argument with a girl you’ve been dating for 3 weeks? She’s going to ghost you and get on a dating app that’s overflowing with thirsty men dying for attention and sex. Many of these men will spend a lot of money just to go on a date with her. You are now seen as disposable to many women. Dating has always been about worki…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:05 AM
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Oh ffs, you're expecting us to explain why being Nigel No-friends is a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 02:47 AM
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The average person does not make good on the promise of their youth. The average person anticipates ending up in middle management by their thirties with reasonable hopes of better by their forties, and instead struggles to become and stay part of lower management. If we're looking at averages, the average woman will go three years older in a mate no problems but after that starts expecting a mate bring more to the table to make up for it. By the time we are looking at ten years older she is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:35 PM
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I think that there's been no major change. "men protect women" has always been a very patchily implemented thing, more absent than present. There's just less of an emphasis now on covering up the fact that there were a bunch of shitty bystanders who did nothing. I'm glad reporting has become more accurate, women raised in sheltered environments with little direct experience of how crap humans are now know they can't rely upon men and will make their decisions accordingly. There's no more useful …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:53 PM
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Well obviously choice of drink is part of the overall picture of someone, but no, choice of drink does not by itself make me accept or reject someone. It is more a person's overall relationship to alcohol and the social contexts around drinking I'd be concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 06:55 AM
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A lot of emotional abuse from my father... he's a narcissist and ever since my mother left him when I was 10 the entire relationship with him has been on his side about getting narcissistic supply to help heal his wounded ego. I just... I can't give him that? I love my mother and I know for a fact she's a better person than him. If someone in the family is in need she's always been the first in line to help, she genuinely attempts to see other people's point of view, she's forgiving, she doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 04:56 AM
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Last week I had a new air conditioner delivered, only to realize that it was too heavy for me to carry up four flights of stairs to my apartment. She's too dumb to be happy, in or out of a relationship. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:46 AM
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