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yes women are starting to lose interest in marriage because people are realizing it is obsolete. however marriage has not had much benefit for men for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 07:08 PM
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the red pill stereotypes women and casts them in a negative light and is often 'misogynistic'. it encourages prejudice towards women, abusive relationships and emotional manipulation and is probably doing more harm than good overall in society. red pillers generally avoid emotional relationships because most are very narcissistic (many openly endorsing the emulation of dark triad characteristics) they aim to sleep with many women while simultaneously shaming women for being sluts. and over all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 11:45 PM
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the red pill is a collection of related ideas and a relatively subjective perspective over all you are choosing to take these perspectives and speculations to the most extreme possible conclusion and there is clearly a more moderate way to interpret it. and don't assume that someones sexual strategy is the entire depth of their character or is the only thing they take into account in the decision making process. you don't know someone just because you read a post they wrote on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 11:22 PM
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Patience dear RPillers, it won't be long until sexbots become a thing and then we'll all go our own way. you are really hung up on that aren't you incapable of love and true loyalty funny I remember it being something more like incapable of loving men the way they expect to be loved which I don't necessarily agree with but you twisting words around is like your whole thing If that's my nature then it's fine. I can't help it , can I ? people have varying degrees of capacity to overcome their biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 10:22 PM
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what society is that? the country I live in has millions of people who cant find work and millions more living in poverty. the supposed land of the free is more like the land of financial slavery for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 11:41 PM
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Testosterone doesn't have direct effects on the dopamine receptors in the brain. he never made the claim that testerone effects dopamine receptors he was pointing out that hormones (like testosterone) can build up a sort of tolerance in a similar way that neurotransmitters (like dopamine) can which is correct. the mechanism by which the tolerance effect occurs is different but the end result is pretty much the same when your body adapts to having a certain chemical effecting it, it is less sensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 10:53 PM
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It was a hyperbole yes a hyperbole is a ridiculous exaggeration you are correct I do think that the red pill tends to demonize women I can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 09:55 PM
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I have noticed that the red pill focuses too much on women's nature but too little on men's nature its sexual strategy for men. female nature is going to be the topic of discussion. "Oh no, men are noble spiritual saints, men don't do that kind of stuff, only women cheat." nonsense you never heard any red piller say men are spiritual saints. and no one has ever implied that 'only women cheat' - that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. you might see people say women cheat more but no …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 06:10 PM
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so have I
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:43 AM
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careful man you stretch that too far its likely to snap *not that there aren't women in their mid 30s who aren't still very attractive but a boxer is not said to still be in his prime just because he can throw a punch if you get what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:07 AM
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with which part
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 11:41 PM
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those are the women in their sexual prime. its a sexual strategy remember
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 11:21 PM
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Dark triads destroy and take. Stop kidding yourself. I was being sarcastic. like I said the dark triad shit is when people take these ideas to the most extreme possible conclusion. You seem to be dancing round admitting that the red pill is the red pill if you would read the whole sidebar including the misandry bubble you would understand that the red pill is more like a loose collection of related ideas that are open to quite a bit of personal interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 11:13 PM
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unrepresentative of "the real" red pillers? This sounds amazing. Do you have evidence of this? I wasn't really suggesting that no. my point was it is open to interpretation. even the people who do post to the redpill have more depth to their personality as people than you can discern from reading a coment they wrote. having a daughter marry a person interested in emulating the dark triad but that's taking the most extreme interpretation of it. although anyone with any power in this world gained …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 09:10 PM
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from my understanding the most extreme level of mgtow is already the view that women are obsolete to themselves. for whatever reason mgtows havnt gotten what they wanted or needed out of women and have given up trying. I wouldn't worry about it unless it starts to get bigger in which case we would have to ask ourselves what is the issue and why is society apparently failing these people. but in reality its too early to tell maybe these people had unrealistic expectations they couldn't get past, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:08 PM
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TRP is about improving your own life, and to hell with the rest of us if that's the way you want to look at it. sexual strategy is selfish its goal is personal gain but to assume that someones sexual strategy is the whole depth of their personality I think is a mistake. including in some cases spousal rape, to get what you want. never heard such a thing myself. obviously those people have issues. My point was right and wrong are taught, not inborn, and our values are determined partially by cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:33 PM
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Some red pillers are also MGTOWs technically depending on your definition of trp yes but you wont find that many mgtows posting on r/theredpill. but it is still highly disturbing that they think that way it disturbs you that mgtows wish they had sex robots? I thought it was kind of a given. I'm talking about some individuals here yes a very small amount of individuals. don't get me wrong if they came out with a realistic sex robot im sure it would sell very well but would it make women obsolete …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:42 PM
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You often hear some MGTOWs and redpillers say that women will become obsolete once artificial wombs and sex robots are created you often here red pillers say that really? I seriously doubt that, mgtows I could believe but theres like what 17 of them in the whole world. humans in general of course will be made obsolete in essentially every way by computers but not necessarily to eachother on an emotional level. I guess these people imagine a scenario were women will be imprisoned in concentration…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 05:26 PM
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You don't question your superiors. do you really think the mods have time to put up with people arguing with them, theres way too many subscribers for that. the sub chooses to focus on what it wants to focus on, if your opinions are not contributing to that there are other places for them. filtering spam is technically censorship but to go so far as to say the red pill tries to deprive its subscribers of rational or free thought is quite a stretch. all subs have rules. We TEACH children right an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:34 PM
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but it isn't how do you know? how do you judge the interpretations of red pillers who don't post to r/theredpill based on the interpretations of the smaller percentage of subscribers that do? It's already enmeshed in a list of activities the average person would balk at. such as
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:24 PM
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yes I think its pretty apparent that marriage itself is becoming obsolete. it hasn't had much benefit for men for a while but I think women are also becoming more independent- they can provide for themselves so they are not in such a desperate need of resources that they see enough benefit in making a life long promise to another imperfect human being, or at least not being so hasty about it which is fine. marriage is kind of a sham because people try to make it sound like if you love someone yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:20 PM
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you can get banned for disagreeing in a way that is not constructive or contributes to the conversation. I mean I agree with you the mods could be a little less strict and the average contributor could be a little more open to nuance points but all that being said they don't need a bunch of people in there telling them any objectification or even subjectification of women is misogyny that is not contributing and it is simply not correct (I can elaborate on that point if you don't understand why …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:09 PM
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neo reactionary politics. im not sure it has to be, its anti feminist in the sense it view feminism as basically having ruined traditional values but at the same time I think you can hold that view while also understanding that there is no going backwards and we might as well make the best of an imperfect situation. that's how it comes across to me. for example I support the sexual liberation of women but I would not go so far as to say it has not come without any difficulties for anyone. there …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:56 PM
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I prefer to just put less focus on masculine and feminine and let people act as they want and be the person they want to be. I agree with you in theory, Ideally everyone should be able to express themselves the way they want to. but as OP points out most women are still attracted to masculine men, so men who want to get laid will likely have to act masculine most of the time. you cant really negotiate what people are attracted to. cultural conditioning (or maybe some de-cultural conditioning) co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:51 PM
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that's complete nonsense. in an objective sense men and women are not exactly the same, also in an objective sense the value of everything is equal (that is 0 because value is subjective).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:40 PM
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not really. sexual strategy is amoral in no way means you cannot improve the lives of those around you, "not involving questions of right or wrong" is the definition of amoral in the case of pure sexual strategy. for example OPs sexual strategy (which coincides with what I consider a fair interpretation of the essential aspects of the red pill) primarily relies upon displaying his value to the opposite sex which causes no harm to anyone in which case morality is irrelevant. its funny how you peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:34 PM
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I don't know I found it to be a reasonably fair interpretation of the essential aspects of it. my take on it is relatively similar. and this I think is actually part of the point because at the heart of what the red pill really is as a concept is somewhat open to individual interpretation which begs the question why is there so much criticism of people who simply admit the red pill makes some valid points or has helped them in their life in some way. you notice that there are 100,000 subscribers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:26 PM
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exactly this. there is an inherent relationship between psychedelics and 'dropping out' because they make cultural conditioning more obvious and therefore easier to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:45 PM
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See also all the hippies in the 60's which the US government absolutely hated. That's also the only reason they made LSD illegal. I can go further into that if anyone is interested no need, promising to get rid of the hippies and the so called 'dangerous' drugs was how Nixon got elected. goddam 50 year old middle class americans. *and if I remember correctly Nixon is also the one who essentially started the whole war on drugs that still persists to this day with the controlled substance act, res…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:57 AM
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as a psychologist who had conducted successful therapy sessions and extensive experimentation with them at Harvard university why would he not feel free to advocate them? *many other psychologists as well as other smart and creative people also advocated psychedelics for consciousness expansion as well as entheogenic and a variety of therapeutic uses, especially in a controlled setting and plenty of people still do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:55 AM
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nonsense they locked timothy leary up just for telling people to drop out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:36 AM
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Specific to TRP, things like "submit, prioritize the man's needs, don't leave the house" are associated with unpleasant things like rape, emotional abuse and kidnapping--where it is not consensual but considering the red pill does not advocate forcing a women into a relationship she didn't consent to, how are any of those things actually associated in a relevant way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:59 AM
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woman without her consenting to it then what is the problem. as long as everyone consents to the terms of the relationship why would you have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:56 AM
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some sort of retroactive loyalty?), that's cute
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:52 AM
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I wouldn't get married unless you are planning on running for president or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:47 AM
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because being a selfish person is something that applies to men or women and is essentially just human nature. just because you are pretty selfish doesn't mean you don't care about anybody else. you cant criticize other people for being selfish when it is in all of our nature and its not our fault that we can only experience reality through our own perception but the condition inspires people to look after themselves first and that is the seed of becoming opportunistic which is also a very human…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:41 AM
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What? Are you in high school or something? no and I think you are choosing to take a narrow view of what the word drama can actually mean. an exciting, emotional, or unexpected series of events or set of circumstances- is the definition you get if you search google. who doesn't want something exciting or unexpected in their life from time to time. drama is what makes the stress In your life, you need some stress in your life otherwise it would be boring and you would have less motivation. eustre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:04 AM
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from one pov you could say both men and women probably have some default sexual appeal on an instinctual level since they both have genitalia. women probably have more default sexual appeal cuz of the things you said pretty much. sorry Idk if that really counts as trying to change your view but the meaning of the word 'default' is kind of sketchy in this case I think there is probably something appealing about genitalia of the opposite sex on an instinctual level it just goes to reason because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:41 AM
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don't forget all the heterosexual women. they also marry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 10:04 PM
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im....sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:49 PM
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I guess it is more of a laymans term so to speak, since some people consider sociopath synonymous with psychopath while others do not. there is a pretty well understood definition of psychopath but I could see why you would say it is not a formal definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 09:08 PM
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Cue everyone jumping in with how they have a friend who defies this. well that was partly what I was getting at. the opposites attract thing is something I think most people tend to agree with but not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:45 PM
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narcissists are as mind blind as autistics, that narcissists are basically extroverted autists, and autists are introverted autists. I would have to disagree on a whole. they are essentially opposites. narcissists are not mind blind they can predict the action and thoughts of others very well they just have no emotional empathy and have very high oppinions of themselves. autistic spectrum is essentially the opposite we struggle with cognitive empathy, which is the mindblindess , but we have aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:21 PM
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I elaborated on their nature by way of analogy. eg they are like a complex form of flirting (went on to explain what flirting is like and how it relates). eg- they are like characters in a play (explained the significance of the analogy) im not looking to establish a concise definition of what gender roles specifically look like, im more interested in the underlying psychological significance of them. in other words why are they there? do the optimize human function or harm it? could they serve …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:12 PM
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ugh you are so hard to discuss with. I don't think a thesis statement has to be only one sentence. and for the purpose of a debate why should limit my entire speculation to one sentence? I expressed multiple povs in the OP you are free to agree or disagree with any and all of them. what is it that you don't understand about my perspective specifically? essentially what im saying is gender roles are a game, they serve as a pretend struggle between the genders that serves to balance eachother out …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:07 PM
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Well psychopathy does not have any kind of formal definition im not sure about that. if I remember correctly psychopathy and sociopathy fall under the category of anti-social personality disorders which im sure there is a dsm section for. psychopathy is characterized primarily by diminished feelings of remorse and empathy (like basically none at all) whereas sociopathy is more commonly used to describe a behavioral lack of regard for social norms and laws etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:00 PM
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it just has findings you don't like. like I said psychology is more speculation than anything when it comes to determining peoples subjective experience of reality. determining peoples level of emotional empathy is almost impossible especially if they don't display it or display it in different ways which is the nature of the disorder. its not that I don't like the findings its that there are other researches who disagree and you are not giving any weight to the opposing view points. between tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:54 PM
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i'm just not convinced of that based on the reading i've been doing. i think you would at least agree it's a young field of research with not a lot of clarity. there is still a lot of speculation among researches yes, it is a complex disorder and no one completely understands the nature of autistic peoples subjective experience of reality except themselves- which still doesn't solve anything because autistics cant understand completely the subjective experience of neurotypicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:49 PM
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That's a lame definition of "gender roles wasn't meant to be a 'definition' of gender roles it was speculation about the nature of them. here to give everyone a jumping off point for the discussion I will rephrase it as a question "what do speculate is the nature and significance of gender roles and how is it different than or similar to my own?" So, when an internet stranger suggests that I abandon my aspirations and get back to the kitchen (since, naturally, that's where women belong), he was …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:37 PM
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the tie is very simple, if red pillers could read the minds and emotions of women, they would know what women find attractive, and not need red pill to guide them. if that's your whole point than I agree you have a valid point there, although it is blatantly obvious that most red pillers are neurotypical but I could believe that there is an unusually high percentage of people on the autistic spectrum in that community for this very reason. why you continue to go on and assert that this has anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:28 PM
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"Although there is much evidence to suggest that individuals with autism display difficulties with ToM or cognitive empathy, there is more debate about the role of emotional empathy in autism. While mirror neuron theory [21] argues that individuals with ASC have weak emotional empathy, Dziobeck and others [22] claim that emotional empathy is intact in autism. Other theorists have proposed that it is due to heightened emotional empathy that individuals with ASC find the social world more challeng…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:24 PM
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gender roles are like a form of flirting that has been ingrained into our psychology and actually displays more of a similarity between the genders than a large difference that is we all like the drama of associating with our polar opposites submissive and dominant gender roles do not imply inferiority or superiority they are game based on a mutual understanding between the genders would be the main points to take away from this I guess, but the whole thing is important. its just a pov, im not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 06:13 PM
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first of all before I even get into this, if you have a legitimate interest in the topic stop cherry picking articles and do some real research. that being said, even the article you have posted does not support your wild claim that people with Asperger's can not have a genuine connection with other people. also autism is a spectrum of different disorders not everyone on the spectrum has the same set of symptoms as aspergers and not everyone with aspergers has the same set of symptoms. the artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:59 PM
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again that is simply not true. i have genuine emotional connections with people, i love them for who they are they love me for who i am. even growing up when my symptoms were more of an issue i still had real connections with people and a couple meaningful freindships it was just hard to sustain multiple friendships at a time. you are mistaking self-conscious for self-centered, and I really think you need to do some more research on this subject before you keep making these kinds of accusations.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:07 PM
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that's understandable and I agree. im just saying in my mind in alpha is someone who is confident in themselves and doesn't really need anyone else, whereas betas basically feel empathy out of necessity an alpha is someone who can choose to be empathetic or not if he wants but is not forced to view it as necessity for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:04 PM
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I agree, there are some issues that arise in very specific settings, but on a whole I think men and women are pretty much treated equally in the eyes of the law. people would do well to take some satisfaction in how much has already been accomplished
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:01 PM
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well I tend to agree in general drunken sex is not rape, if person is conscious and can speak well enough you understand them/still stand up I would say that should qualify as legal consent. I think some girls might do it as a backup measure just in case. like I have had sex with a couple drunk girls, although I was also on drugs but not alcohol so all in all I was significantly less intoxicated then them but they seemed enthusiasitic and neither of them ever tried to accuse me of rape or anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:53 PM
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hmm this was a good idea for a thread, too bad its 1:30 in the morning and im fixing to go to bed. I guess if I had to think of one of the top of my head real quick BPers (*at least on r/thebluepill) seem to act like TRP is synonymous with the "women want to be treated like shit" theory or that by "alpha" we all mean douchebag/asshole instead of strong charismatic confident leader type. another would be that the idea of a 'submissive' gender role automatically implies inferiority, which is not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:18 AM
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ok. thx
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:44 AM
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can anyone tell me what this means? im not to savvy with all of this technical stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:35 AM
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OP have you read this? http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/30tjtw/words_can_be_weapons_do_not_let_those_you_hate/ something tells me this was for you. if you scroll down you will see a copy of what I assume was your text: "I know... I'm just saying that you could filter your words a little.. Apparently calling a mother of two [a cum dumpster] isn't "slightly misogynistic". My bad." so on account of your entire presence in that thread being to try and filter peoples language I would tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:17 AM
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so you avoid men who call women cum dumpsters. not men who think men should be allowed to call women cum dumpsters. at least I hope that's what you are trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:50 AM
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that women can and should be allowed to be called cum-dumpsters so I can stay far away from them. you avoid men who support freedom of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:41 AM
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right im referring more to emotional empathy. people with HFA have very high emotional empathy (care about others). we do sometimes struggle with cognitive empathy like predicting what people will do next in a given situation, although personally I don't feel that was one of my main deficits. using that type of cognitive ability is not really what I consider real empathy though because its more along the lines of being creative and has nothing to do with caring about people. other people are bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 02:37 AM
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are you talking about right now or growing up? being that im in my mid 20s I have developed my social skills a lot, at this point I can act like what other people would consider perfectly normal, it is just very extraneous and exhausting. my personal ability to pick up on social cues was never abysmal, i had some natural sense of it. its not hard to tell if someone likes you or strongly doesn't like you, however as a young kid i did have some trouble identifying when i was boring people for exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 02:14 AM
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im actually glad you brought this up because I noticed you saying a similar thing in another thread. before I get to my point I am not going to speculate on their prevalence of autistic symptoms in red pillers, there could be some and I could understand why, but obviously not every red piller is an aspie. now on to my actual point. I have HFA, as you know, which is similar to aspergers syndrome. it involves a delay in social development including difficultlies with formality and rhythm of conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 01:53 AM
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fair enough, im not sure I would agree the red pill is a hate group but I see your point. *edit for grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 10:46 PM
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Is it fair for privileged BPers to criticize the "very disprivileged" among RPers if the criticisms are valid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 10:43 PM
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that's understandable. "women are cum dumpsters" as a blanket statement is pretty damn misogynistic im not arguing that point. but if I say "im not interested in an emotional relationship with a women, I prefer to just have sex with them or not be around them" blue pillers would still say im being misogynistic, even though I am just expressing what I personally want and don't want out of my life- and am not commenting on the actual value of women. there is misogyny on the red pill but BPers exag…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 10:10 PM
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or ridiculed * cough * TBP * cough *
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 10:04 PM
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I only have two issues with the venting 1. that people who are in the anger phase make angry statements which are then backed up by other people who are just as angry, which could lead people to keep being angry to seek validation from others, so it the concept of venting could backfire for some people 2. some men do place an unfair blame on women themselves, while failing to understand that it is society in general that has allowed western civilization to become overly feminized and that you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:59 PM
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in all fairness, nothing posted on TRP is an insult addressed to anyone in particular. like people talking shit about you behind your back is not the same as insulting you to your face. if you pretend they aren't there, its almost like their not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:49 PM
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which we all know will be nothing more than a more elaborate, more eloquent extrapolation of the phrase "women are cumdumpsters" that doesn't deviate from that precise sentiment in the slighest I don't know if you can be that black and white about it. not everyone who is angry with women at one point in their life harbors that anger forever, even us crazy red pillers. i have to admit i have made my share of slightly misogynistic statements on that sub but if anything i think it just helped me ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:45 PM
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the term itself obviously has a very bitter sound to it no doubt. to say all women are nothing more than cum dumpsters is misogynistic by definition yes. women are people who can define their own self value how ever they want to. to insinuate that they should have no value to anyone else outside of sex is prejudice. to personally prefer having sex with random sluts as opposed to having an emotional relationship is a lifestyle choice and is more like an opinion against romantic relationships rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:26 PM
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pretty much the perfect answer. sexual liberation a good thing but there are some peripheral issues that should be addressed. like freedom in general its worth the struggle over all but does come with its own inherent difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 08:15 PM
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Would you agree that this stops alpha fucks beta bucks? Do you think this arrangement is justified or necessary to abate the issues you see in western hook up culture? in a society where sex outside of marriage is shamed it would tend to benefit men because equal number of men and women and everyone feeling obligated to get married would in theory mean more sex for unattractive men (and guaranteed resources for women). which hypothetically would also benefit society on a whole because unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:57 PM
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and/or looks shaming I think you are starting to catch on that we have been talking about something completely different this whole time. im associating the term creep shaming with what I have repeadetly explained essentially just amounts to verbally harassing people based on their looks and or social acuity, but not an actual conscious behavior directed at anyone. If you are using the term to refer to something else that is fine but you tried to make it sound like what I am talking about doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 05:39 PM
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pharmaceutical grade amphetamines would be much better. and I am deadly serious about that. if you are tired as shit and you absolutely have to preform pop 30mg Adderall. less addictive than cocaine as well (imo)- but either way certainly works wonders as a once in a blue moon remedy
/r/becomeaman30/03/15 05:26 PM
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{read the whole comment} your making statements of creep shaming as a problem in society I think you are blowing what im saying out of proportion. it is a problem that some people in society have to face. is it a problem we should DO something about? not really because there is nothing you can do without violating peoples basic rights. people have the right to be bitches and assholes if they so choose and im the last person who would suggest there should be some kind of law obligating people to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 04:38 PM
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I didn't even know I had HFA til I was 19. I always knew I was a little different than everyone but growing up it was hard to exactly put my finger on it, and no one explained shit to me. had to figure everything out by myself and yes people with autism can work on their flaws which I have done but growing up obviously I developed slower than others as far as social skills go, it wasn't easy, and other people didn't make it any easier on me. And not all creepers are autistic but growing up most …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:12 AM
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appearing healthy would be an example of a trait biology has programmed you to be attracted to. if your attraction is partly rooted in fashion and labels that apply to people like Christian, pagan, Muslim, redneck, aristocrat, middle class, upper class, lower class, hipster, gothic, preppy, junkie, drunk, proffesional etc. then there is cultural influence. being attracted to things associated with masculine and feminine traits specifically almost certainly have a basis in biology but may also be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 10:08 PM
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so I should trust your interpretation of a situation that you didn't witness over my own? your making an assumption about me based on nothing. that is prejudice. dont bother replying to this im out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:54 PM
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you are not 'disagreeing' with me you are calling me a liar about my own personal experience. at least be honest with yourself for godsakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:44 PM
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then you are prejudice. your assuming my account of the events in my own life are untrue simply because I have been called a creep by people you have never met? and the fact that plenty of people don't find me creepy I guess is totally irrelevant obviously there is something wrong with me it couldn't possibly be that any females were ever insensitive or bullied someone at any point in history. you are insane. and this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:34 PM
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only if you are insecure and rely on others to validate you. oh yeah cuz teenagers for the most part are very secure in their self image, whatever you say buddy. i'm saying telling a guy he should not target women out of his league is not abuse, it's helpfulness I agree and to repeat for the thousandth time that is not what I consider creep shaming and is entirely unrelated to what I am talking about. creep shaming is not the same as rejection. it can occur as part of rejection, it can also occu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:10 PM
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realizing that a girl you like doesn't like you but not being crushed because you have internal self esteem, your worth doesn't rely on on whether a girl likes you (because just like you don't like every girl romantically, lots of girls won't like you). its not really a matter of that, yes if you are mentally healthy you can maybe handle rejection better. that is not relevant to my point though because im not taking about rejection im talking about shaming. this is shirking the responsibility fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:46 PM
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But it is the behavior. They man violates social norms. That's the "creepy" part. It is a prejudice, but a prejudice against low social intelligence rather than a prejudice against looks. well atleast you agree that it is prejudice, that's the most important part, like I said I don't discount the social awareness factor. but your point only stands if we are accepting the premise that creep shaming only happens in a situation where a man is trying to hit on a women, which I don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:39 PM
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if you are making sexual advances on someone you just met, that's creepy are you trying to piss me off? because you are doing a very good job. you clearly have no idea what I am even talking about and trying to "guess" (by which I mean making unfair assumptions based on nothing) what im talking about is not going to solve that. also although this is still not the scenario im reffering to but you are also being dishonest to say that sexual advances toward someone you just met are creepy in every …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:30 PM
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ah I see. my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:26 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:23 PM
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think it's wildly inaccurate to insinuate that only "unattractive men" are called creeps by women actually my point was not that women only call unattractive men creeps. the point is if you call someone a creep and they actually deserve it than that is not 'creep shaming' or atleast what I am choosing to use as a working definition of it. bluepillers are trying to make it sound like because there Is an acceptable use of the word creep that creep shaming either doesn't exist or is not bad. applyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:12 PM
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you are misconstruing and misrepresenting the argument. this has nothing to do with the red pill. see my post on the newest thread about creep shaming for a personal anecdote. you don't seem to understand what shaming is. my experience of creep shaming is completely outside of anything you are talking about. I can only explain so many times there is a difference between rejecting someone and making them feel worthless or disgusting, I don't see how I can be any more clear than that. someone refu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:59 PM
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Being attractive doesn't excuse gross or unwanted behavior. it changes the nature of what is considered gross or unwanted but ok A lot of RP members seem to think that "Chad Thundercock" can walk up to a woman, insult her, and he walk away with her vagina juices meh you might be surprised but I understand what you are saying. im not claiming women want to be insulted. IME women react negatively to any man who aggressively invades her space of course they do and they should. there seems to be a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:47 PM
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do you think it's wrong that fat people get shamed? do you prefer to date fat girls? are you really so blind that you cannot see there is a difference between not being attracted to someone/choosing to reject them and shaming them ? shaming someone is going out of your way to make someone feel worthless, not declining an invitation they offered you. I don't make fun of fat people for being fat, does that answer your ridiculous question? you don't get to decide what's inappropriate, society as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:29 PM
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So what exactly is wrong with a sexual strategy playing the percentages nothing of course, my point was not only does it depend on the particular female but the particular male trying to execute the strategy. most women prefer masculine men, but acting masculine may not be the best strategy for every man. there may be other factors that go into what strategy would suite you best depending on the potential you have to attract a particular type of female. so based on your personality or appearance…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:16 PM
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4.Some conventionally attractive women like midgets. I don't deny they exist. However, you don't create a strategy to succeed on .1% of the target demographic. of course, but considering Robert Greene's devotion of a whole chapter to what I consider basically a promotion of androgyny, are you speculating that the percentage of women who will find this attractive are statistically insignificant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:03 PM
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However what caused the spiral was the initial lack of social awareness possibly. as I explained I have higher-functioning autism which by definition involves a deficiency In social awareness. I do not agree that makes me worthless or that I should be shamed such deficiency especially as a young man growing up. I was not shamed for any behavior that I consider inappropriate. expressing your affection to or attraction for someone else is not an insult, they can choose to take it that way but I of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:30 PM
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you fail to take into account the scope of what I consider creep shaming to actually mean, as I explained on the other post it goes beyond the context of sexual advances. I also feel that social skills and confidence play a part in what women find attractive (obvious right?) so consider this, growing up as a young man you wouldn't know you are ugly until you asked a few girls out and got rejected right? so the actual events of getting rejected in certain ways (being treated like you are disgusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:05 PM
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So just work on going to the gym, dressing better, and being more socially competant and you'll be alright obviously as a red piller I agree you on that, and yes it has improved the quality of my life but that's not the point, I don't feel anyone deserves to be treated the way I have been treated growing up. im not complaining that life is unfair im just pointing out that its people who make it unfair I only creep shame to someone's face if they felt me up without my permission or did something …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:39 PM
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i am not constantly being called a creep but this creep shaming is something i had to deal with for most of my life. you are making it sound like I said I have a problem with a women rejecting my advances which is not the case. i have never blamed a women for not being attracted to me. there are ways of declining someones invitation without being rude and purposefully trying to make them feel disgusting when they were not rude to you. and like i said this is not a phenomenon that only applies to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:19 PM
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sounds like a decent idea for a post, although bluepillers will call anything misogyny so im not sure if that will prove anything or not. you should go ahead and make that thread yourself since you are so concerned about it. personally over half of the thread titles on the front page right now seem very boring and i really am not going to spend all my time going through everyone and analyzing what is, is not, and is slightly prejudice about them. i have my own idea for a thread today which i wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:08 PM
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it goes beyond the context of sexual advances. also this is such a typical blue pill hypocrisy. you expect men to approach women instead of vice versa and you even pretend like women are so varied and can be attracted to so many types of guys yet you say guys should just know they are ugly and are being audacious and creepy simply by asking you out on a date and taking a chance. like they should just know their place basically which does not involve ever speaking to an attractive women or thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:35 PM
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not that she wrote under a mans name, as far as I know, but ayn rand is an example of female author considered one of the best writers in history
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:20 PM
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I believe women don't generally reach the greatest heights of artistic expression because they historically/evolutionarily never had a need to agreed but that is not the same thing as lack of ability. there are plenty of women who have made terrific contributions to the arts, they just haven't always had the incentive. imo you could put grace slick for example aprox on par with john lennon. some people would probably disagree with that but the best thing about art is its subjective. so there wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:10 PM
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LOL EVERY post on the TRP is a jackpot of misogyny that's a load of crap and you know it. TBP commonly represents anger as bitterness, criticism and even speculation as prejudice, and taking women off the pedestal as toxic misogyny. there is some misogyny within the red pill but the majority of it is just admitting women are people too and do fucked up shit just like men. for a man who has an unhealthy high opinion of women some negativity is exactly what he needs. its a healthy dose of cynicism…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:59 PM
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wow im not a blue piller so I don't know if im breaking the rules or whatever by answering this, but Im going to give my personal impression anyway since it has effected me directly in my own life. before I go on, even though I have strong feelings on the matter I don't want to imply that I feel this is one of the biggest issues in society or anything like that because in the grand scheme of things its not really a huge deal, but personally I do have an issue with it. as an ugly guy with poor so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:46 PM
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I could get behind that, since it would benefit single people as well. and I give you credit for pointing out that marriage is technically a religious thing more than anything else, I did kind of overlook that aspect. although arguably that is still society encouraging marriage for conformity/stability reason from the pov of people who don't support organized religion but I agree with you a union in the eyes of your god/in the context of your religious beliefs has more personal value than a cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:50 AM
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Of course, then you have things like children, where nobody is the "boss" and it is both parties' responsibility to come to a proper decision without someone having veto powers. see this is where I would think marriage would get tricky and might need someone to take the role of the leader. I mean ideally you would be married with someone who tends to agree with you on important issues like involving your kids but how do you resolve an issue If you both hypothetically had a completely different v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:43 AM
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society collectively as a construct, not the individual people in it, is going to continue to encourage the institution of marriage and more people getting married as opposed to not. society doesn't really care about the quality of individual peoples marriages or even individual peoples lives at all. society collectively will encourage whatever it assumes is best for the stability of itself, which has never really tended to include individual peoples happiness (certainly has never been the main …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:59 AM
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Technically you could take saliva from her fork at dinner time or her straw she used for her drink glass. Do you think a test like this would cause more dishonesty between men and women? well in that case it would probably tend to cause more honesty actually, due to the fear of the possibility that you might be tested w/o your knowledge. but also testing someone without their knowledge end up as illegal or invasion of privacy somehow. like how people have to consent to be drug tested. what would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:35 AM
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well hypothetically if I had such a thingy and I had a girlfriend and I wanted her to test herself to prove her partner count to me wouldn't that be more likely to just piss her off than get her to go along with it? or are we supposed to be like stealing some of her urine w/o her knowledge? and surely bpers atleast would say that is not ethical since everything is automatically sinister to them. other people may also have a problem with it. in other words just because the possibility exists does…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:09 AM
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Families are also the basic building block of society and marriages make for more stable families as long as members don't prioritize their own desires above the needs of the family well I grant you it creates more stability for the children and for society on a whole but im not sure that's the same as being optimal for individual people "If it's just a piece of paper then just sign it well that's the opposite of the point I was making. its not just a piece of paper its binding contract which ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:53 AM
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random plastering firm that employs 2 people part time. right there are some experienced nurses making like 90k which is doing very well imo. certainly must be CEOs in small companies that don't make that much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:23 AM
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personally even though I relate more to the red pill I don't really feel like I am more attracted to submissive women, although im also not seeking a commited relationship anyway, but for whatever reason I tend to view women with some more masculine psychological traits as more attractive for the most part, I could just be weird though. anyway to answer the question, in my mind the idea of submissive women would be like say if I was making enough money to support me and a wife comfortably say. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:58 AM
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well there you go. like I said in the OP I have my biases. if you actually manage to read all that you will atleast have a more clear understanding of the nature of my bias and where it comes from if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:41 AM
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No its just society being pragmatic. Patient have a right to privacy. If some random person walks in off the street and asks to see them you refuse even admit if they are in the hospital or not. If someone says "but I'm their long term partner" how do you know? No records of that exist. On the other hand marriage records do exist and that's something that can be checked. I see your point but hypothetically it could be based on something else that is verifiable like sharing a residency. You've ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:38 AM
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For example if you aren't married a hospital isn't going to let you visit your hospitalised partner if they aren't in a condition to give consent doesn't that kinda prove my point about society coming up with ways to force it on people though? I'd say the thing you are missing is that marriage is as much as a statement to the outside world that you wish to be treated as a couple as it is a statement to each other sure I guess but you could always buy and wear wedding rings to get the point acros…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:18 AM
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Me, I prefer to be a cause over an effect what does that mean specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:04 AM
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well the definition involving erotic interest in oneself is probably not the most relevant in this case. most peoples working definition of narcissism is more along the lines of being very vain or self centered, not necessarily sexally attracted to ones self. I could see how by that definition narcissists could be manipulated by feeding their delusional sense of self worth. doesn't necessarily make them easier to manipulate than other people since there are other ways to manipulate people but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:52 AM
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try to make ends meet try to find some money then you die. somehow I never understood where the sweet part in bittersweet comes into play here. •Nothing is true the most comforting statement I can pretend is true. oh yeah and btw what is the point of your post? that narcissism is bad? or that emulating narcissistic tendencies is bad if you are not really a narcissist? do you think people should accept their personality for how it is at a given time and never try to change anything about it? •You…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:55 AM
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How can it have an "appreciation for traditional institutions like marriage." Surely institutions are only to be used to get more sex? correct. from what I remember reading of the misandry bubble marriage is beneficial for men because it supposedly guarantees them sex, even though that's not really the case any more but traditionally it may have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:42 AM
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i want to tell you my own anecdotal story. growing up as an ugly kid wasn't easy. and its not all about lack of sex, i felt really alone for a long time, most girls tended to ignore me completely, even girls who were not real good looking, and even in contexts that had nothing to do with sexual or romantic advances whatsoever. im sure being an ugly girl isn't much fun either, but from my perspective guys usually have it worse, . i was the kinda guy that girls who knew me always told me how sweet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:04 AM
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also take the 80/20 rule, the main issue for unattractive men in the 'sexual market'. now obviously 80 20 is an exaggeration but the point is men seem to generally be hornier than women and more able to be captivated with physical appearance as well as mens biological desire to have sex with as many females as possible so therefore it is easier for an average looking girl to sleep with an average looking guy of her choice than vice versa. although this seems kind of obvious as a young unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:00 AM
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But you can't make conclusions about the intricacies of the individual based on their social performance. It is to their benefit and survival that they "fit in", no matter what mental gymnastics their individual brain has to do in order to blend in to the crowd I think I agree with your first sentence and also supports my own argument. now remember as far as why people act the way they do, as far as a sexual strategy is concerned is irrelevant. sexual strategy is not concerned with the mechanism…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 10:45 PM
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::cracks knuckles:: yep that's about how I feel. to be perfectly frank I think you made this a little more tedious than it had to be but okay here we go EDIT: well i had a legitimate reason to say that but considering the absurd length of what i ended up writing i wouldn't blame you if you feel the same way, that being said you should read the entire thing if you intend to reply to it. most of the important parts or toward the later part. really wish there was a not a max character count for pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 10:16 PM
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the same standard of being expected to be moderate with most things and not over indulge pleasure in general? personally I don't give a damn but I would say society holds men to the same general standard of moderation all in all sure. you don't see anyone being praised for being an alcoholic or a cocaine addict, or a workaholic even- over indulgence is generally considered extreme by most people, moderation is considered a healthier mindset in most cases although most of us over indulge in one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 06:40 PM
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I googled contesting child custody and clicked on this http://www.ehow.com/how_7444906_contest-child-custody.html the first step was "Establish a valid reason for contesting the current custody order. While each state defines its own criteria for child custody matters, most (if not all) states permit custody claims when there is a legitimate contention of domestic violence, neglect, drug and/or alcohol abuse, criminal activity or the custodial parent is sentenced to jail." that's where I stopped…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 06:30 PM
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When they do, they have a very good chance of winning. is it possible that is because most of the ones who contest it present evidence that the mother is actually unfit to be a parent? and in general they wouldn't bother contesting it if that wasn't the case since they know they would lose? again not saying that's how it is, its an honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:48 PM
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The thing about men being attracted to virgins or prudes is an artificial construct..a hangover from a more sexist time, that thankfully, most of us don't live in anymore. could be, personally Im not bothered by anyones promiscuity but I am also not interested in a commited relationship so this point is not really relevant to me but whether or not this phenenomenon is an artificial construct is not for certain you accept the premise yourself: The fact that women get sex easier is biological beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:58 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:20 AM
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If you have a problem, take it up with biology but the red pill would say the issue you are describing is most likely a result of biology. again if men are naturally inclined to be attracted to women who haven't had sex with as many partners because of some biological or instinctual reason that is not the same thing as them shaming women for promiscuity simply because people don't personally find it attractive. what we find attractive is not entirely within our control. so I don't understand why…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:09 AM
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everything in moderation I suppose. over indulging in pleasures can ruin your will power and make you become more likely to need instant gratification for your desires. you do have to take into account sexual relations can affect people on an emotional level. assuming people feel a sense of connection to or affection for the people they have sex with, every sexual encounter could have a significant effect on your psychology. to say nothing could be wrong with sex is not necessarily true. there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:58 AM
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While I agree that is a very commonly held perception, I think it's a terrible and detrimental to the human race since it doesn't seem naturally fair the existence of this situation could be detrimental to certain people or even society on a whole (hypothetically) but as you say this how people in the society tend to behave, the red pill does not encourage that it simply takes note of it. you cant rule out the possibility that biology plays a part either its not necessarily a behavior based enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:39 AM
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yes but I do actually disagree with the red pill on that point though, I have no interest in monogamy and I view it as a sort of racket that has more to do with economics than anything. Additionaly, theredpill claims that the polygynous mating structure of humans makes it such that uncontrolled female sexuality results in all the highest quality males getting all the sex ("alpha fucks") with others left in the cold. Therefore, TRP believes that monogamy is better for men and women the red pill i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:14 PM
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are questioning the practicality of it or the ethicality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:48 PM
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Yes. I've been familiar with concepts like "hypergamy" and "dualistic mating strategy" before redpill became a thing because I read science. I've been watching from the beginning. I know more about redpill than most redpillers, because I have a birds eye view of ideological flow. that's good. The views that is "without judgement or hate" actually does carry resentment, in truth. fair perspective. but I don't feel it applies to every red piller. from my perspective the overall tone of the sub is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:20 PM
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So the best argument you can come up with is a weird little ontological and a comparison between what happens online vs the real world? Hmm. you are going to have to rephrase that, I have no clue what you are even saying or how the word ontological fits into the discussion. you implied that the red pill is not important because it is only important to red pillers and I guess we are somehow insignificant? that doesn't seem like a point that is even worth addressing to me. what is "important" has …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:12 PM
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But it's important to this pretty insular group online and not to people in the real world. explain to me how any one of the hundred thousand red pill subscribers are not real people in the real world. I feel like a real person....but I suppose I could just be a delusional elephant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:28 PM
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I spent most of last night trying to explain this very concept to some blue pillers on ppd. somehow, I don't think they understood. maybe someone over there will see this (since its on trp front page instead of coming from me) and think hmm maybe red pillers are not as absolutist as they appear at first glanced? could they really be people just like me capable of having their own oppinions? admitting that an ideology raises valid points is not the same as following it blindly or agreeing with ev…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 05:10 PM
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Where I disagree is that TRP is not the only strategy available to men that is a good point and I definitely agree with you. mutual model of a relationship would be where both parties want to have sex and want to share their wealth and status, and in doing so, both gain. That is not what TRP promotes at all. you kind of lost me there. in an actual relationship I fail to see how any context would have a women feel like she is losing something by having sex with her partner. or that the man would …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:10 PM
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c) never challenged in the comments. that is a valid point. I wish the mods and more red pillers were more open to nuance points. I think that is what purple pill debates should be like. There is little discussion on anything positive related to self-improvement that one would expect from a sub related to that have to disagree on a whole. For as much TRP accuses others of brainwashing, it is the epicenter of brainwashing. any ideology can limit your view of reality if you let it. the people who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:35 PM
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is not a important or anywhere near as revolutionary as you think I agree that it is not revolutionary, as most of the concepts are not even original to the red pill itself. to say it is not important is a nonsense statement, obviously it must be important personally to the people who are utilizing it to better themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:30 PM
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im sure you can find plenty of studies saying either way(http://www.devpsy.org/teaching/gender/sex_differences.html) no one can definitively know the exact characteristics of anyone elses subjective experience of reality. we can observe behavior but that is only an indicator or thought process not a definer of it. psychology is a science full of speculation, very little has been determined in the way of absolute facts, and the facts that have been determined are still subject interpretation from…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 06:31 AM
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hmm that's an interesting analysis, although imo the great thing about metaphors is not every part of a concept applies to the other concept it is serving as a metaphor for, but I think I see what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:54 AM
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im still not sure exactly what you are getting at though its as if you are describing the sexual market place as an all around poor economic system, naturally flawed regardless of the quality of the products being peddled. should we switch from a free market to a communist sort of sexual market?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:39 AM
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not really sure where you are going with this. as far as one night stands go, neither party is emotionally invested so I don't see why it would be a loss for either party. sure there is always buyers remorse (morning after regret) but that's not exactly the same thing as getting swindled. in a long term relationship both parties should be benefiting from it equally and if they aren't there are always ways out of a relationship, so I don't really see why anyone has to 'lose'. same goes for sales,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:27 AM
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*edit: sorry about all that rambling I decided to delete that as I really don't know what point I was even trying to make. im going to concede you may have a fair point and leave it at that. I accept the possibility that the red pill directly or indirectly may have had a negative effect for some of these women. although sexual strategy itself is supposed to be amoral, I personally don't feel that that should apply in committed relationships. I understand how taking the whole "submissive role" to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:38 AM
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as a feminist (assuming you are a feminist because of flair) why does it depress you that women are making choices and living their life how they want to? this is what kills me about feminists, they say women should be viewed as equals, but if their choice is to follow traditional gender roles that is some how viewed as the wrong choice? I don't see why people choosing to be happy in a role they personally are comfortable with should depress you at all. surely not every women wants to be an astr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:02 AM
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you don't think some people would find that to be more rude? If I was in the situation and I didn't want to be friends with someone I would probably be upfront about that. I wouldn't phrase it in a way that leads them to take it personally I would just make it clear im not looking for friends right now and I was simply interested in a casual sex encounter, no offense. you know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:58 AM
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well from a pov it could be seen as just being straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:15 AM
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hmm I think we might actually be getting somewhere. I wouldn't go so far as to say I assume anything MUST be true- however I SPECULATE that men and women may think differently or have different interpretations of reality because there are notable differences in brain chemistry. is it an absolute fact? no. almost nothing about psychology is an absolute fact. now are you going to tell me that by speculating that that is a possibility I am a sexist? I understand why this can seem contradictory but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:48 AM
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we are all victims of cultural conditioning, but how does that prove that men and women are the same? whether traditional gender roles were entirely shaped by cultural conditioning or whether they have some basis in biology I think could be debated. sounds like you are trying to pretend you have all the answers which strikes me as dishonest. trying to understand anyone elses subjective experience of reality with actual accuracy is probably not possible and very well may never be possible because…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:24 AM
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your going to have to explain a little further. behaviorally men and women show significant differences, different behavioral tendencies imply different thought processes. the only tricky part is differentiating what tendencies are a result of cultural conditioning and/or opportunity and which stem directly from biological differences, but considering the difference in brain chemistry I don't see why you would assume that none do... obviously gender dynamics as well as human psychology in genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:14 AM
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those are some of the core ideas yes. making sweeping generalizations in this case is just for practical purposes. if people take them too literally that's their own fault. and some people probably do, but lets not forget red pillers are people too. we have common sense just like anyone and are capable of seeing the valuable components of an ideology for what they are without assuming that said ideology is the end all be all of reality or that there are not exceptions to every rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:35 PM
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cute. AWALT, AF/BB, shit tests, go lift bro, they just want your money you disagree with people wanting to lift weights? I would like them to care and have a realistic view on women. do you think that most non-red pillers have a realistic view of womens value? imo women are generally treated better by men then we treat eachother. do you disagree that women have the upper hand in the dating scene as well as more privileges in society in general due to their natural charm? I remember last year my …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:29 PM
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I still don't know if I can agree with you that speculating about womens nature is sexism. granted the speculations are primarily presenting themselves as confirmed facts when they are in reality just speculation- but legitimate speculation imo. we cant just believe that men and women are the same because it would be nice. either they are or they aren't- and considering the biological differences and differences in brain chemistry I don't think its unreasonable to assume the way women think (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:13 PM
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People who are ragey and angry... might illicit sympathy. But they make others work harder to sympathize. And not everyone is going to read through piles of anger just to sympathize with you. They will just dismiss you well now you are just missing the point. red pillers are beyond the point of wanting sympathy, because they know its just not there, and have taken their life into their own hands. but then its we are even leaving you all alone and doing things are own way and you still want to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:57 PM
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solid post. though I cant help but point out that you sound like a much more reasonable person than the average contributor to the blue pill sub. but yeah, I appreciate your input in the discussion. *I still think you should read the misandry bubble though, its kind of the most essential piece of literature in the sidebar- I know its long and im not saying I agree with everything written in it, some the assumptions are actually quite a stretch, but the overall message rings pretty clear and I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:19 PM
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TRP also encourages a shit ton of awful misogyny. to be clear anger is not the same thing as bitternes. anger is not the same thing as hate. anger is not the same thing as prejudice. anger can be a healthy reaction to certain circumstances, its only when people cant let that anger go that it becomes a problem. many people vent on the red pill, much of the venting is about women, that does not make it inherently misogynistic. the amount of actual misogyny you find on the red pill, by my personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:12 PM
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that was a massive sidestep from the actual point. its not about you personally, we are also talking about 20000 other people. all of this talk on whats objectively good or bad and blah blah blah is only serving to distract from the point in this case. I see no reason to rephrase what I have already said so I will copy and paste it: so essentially you have a group of men with relatively low sexual value (otherwise why would they be there?) and your essentially shaming them for having low sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:06 PM
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I disagree mostly with your views that men and women have very large, innate gender differences and the need for gender roles that arise from that. I also don't like how it is "amoral". An amoral discussion is a breeding ground for immoral actions. For example, there was a cheater's thread on married red pill. They said tat TRP is amoral and that they should be allowed to discuss this. And they did, and they shared tips and tricks and now there are more men sleeping around behind their wives bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 07:16 PM
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reasonable post on a whole but im not totally convinced with: I already had that argument. My stance was that we just use those insults because it is something that you, personally value. first of all its not like its odd for most men to value sex. sex is a big deal for men. you can thank biology for that. the reason you use these insults is not just because its something we value its because there is an element of truth to them. I got into this discussion with a blue piller the other day, I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 07:00 PM
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read the whole post not just the first sentence bud, I just added an edit also. even if the front page comes across as bitter and ragey, your still saying that no one cares about red pillers issues. they don't want to know why there is often a bitter tone, they simply don't care. they just assume we are irrational and never gave a single thought to the reason we are actually there. I think the anger phase is a legitimate reaction to realizing the differences between truth and the picture society…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:40 PM
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basically what I get from what your saying is that blue pillers don't care enough about the needs or desires of unattractive men to even wonder why the red pill actually exists. is this exactly why the red pill exists because people do not care about unattractive men. even in contexts that have nothing to do with sex or romance unattractive men are ignored and treated like shit, primarily by women, yet you all think we are crazy for not wanting to be in that position? or are you denying the exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:27 PM
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Plenty, as a matter of fact. My fiancée doubles my pay (I was actually pretty close to minimum before I got a raise from my boss). Also, if AWALT then no woman (unless they're absolutely hideous) would ever date a minimum wage man, correct? Unrelated, you never answered the single question I actually asked you: having to put a number of women I’ve slept with, I’d say it’s north of 40. Am I more likely than my fiancée to cheat (considering her number of men is at 5, with only a single person outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:58 PM
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so you see my point then. there are core ideas that make up the red pill (like AF/BB, hypergamy, men being viewed as utilities, 80/20 rule etc. etc.) but how literally people take those varies. they are all based on truth but they are also all exaggerated to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:26 PM
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by blue pillers I meant specifically the 20000 people subscribed to blue pill subreddit who actively protest the red pill, not just everyone who doesn't know what it is. plenty of people understand red pill concepts, never having heard of the red pill. most people who have subscribed to the red pill probably already started to figure a lot of this out before they ever thought there was a community built around the concepts that were troubling them, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:23 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised. I think a lot of people post on the red pill before they have even read the sidebar material, which is against the guidelines. that being said, I don't think the red pill is as absolutist as blue pillers make it out to be. red pillers have differing oppinions on a lot of the main aspects, and a lot of it is purposefully left open to interpretation. even the parts that do sound very black and white should be taken with a grain of salt of course, any ideology can limit you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:14 PM
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It comes off as “men and women are just different, in that women are biologically and inherently worse people and more animal-like than man.” Now an “APALT” mindset that emphasizes that all people can be shitty and you should assume the worst until proven otherwise; that, although too pessimistic for me personally, is something I could at least understand. I don't think the red pill itself views women as inferior. it points out female nature for the benefit of men who don't understand it. that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:27 PM
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see this is where people who don't understand the red pill start to bitch about imaginary things. not saying you don't get it but my point is the red pill is sexual strategy for men so naturally we focus a lot on female nature, but there is nothing about the red pill that implies that men are always honest or are not also flawed human being just like women. to assume that red pill views men as infallible is incorrect. men are people, just like women, we lie, cheat, try to one up each other etc. …
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 01:13 AM
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this post cant possibly receive enough praise. and im sorry I cant really contribute to this, you pretty much said it all. kinda wish you would post this on purple pill debates just for the hell of it.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 07:20 PM
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And yet power makes the money not exactly. by money I don't mean necessarily currency, im talking about controlling the actual wealth that the currency represents. in the usa laws are written by large corporations, wars are waged over natural resources, international alliances exist to preserve the status quo and distribution of wealth. yes there is power outside of money, its not the only power, but as far as I can tell it is the greatest and certainly the most lasting of all forms of power.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 02:45 PM
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I don't know man, I mean yes I understand we are supposed to work on game and being leaders and all that but you are describing a level of charming that few men could ever hope to reach. without money, to influence the way people feel you have to tell them what they want to hear, to influence how they think you need to have a good idea, to influence what people want you may well have to create something new. don't underestimate what money can get you. money writes the law. money pays for the adv…
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 03:31 AM
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I don't think you're right man, money is definitely power. unless your just talking about physical strength, but if by power you mean social influence, money Is definitely at the top of the pyramid.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 02:37 AM
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but when a man is offered a job he doesn't want he will still decline politely and shake your hand. a woman being hit on by an unattractive man makes her offended and sick and the word creep is sitting on the tip of her tongue if he is not already walking away apologetically at that point.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 02:33 PM
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there are no other wars to start, any 'war' from this point forward will be a subsection of the overall war on terror, which was well designed to be a war that would never end. and why would corporate America be interested in wars that end? war is so good for business we might as well let it go on forever. the financial sector and weapons manufacturers are making a fortune over this, and the government gets to strip the American people of their rights in the name of security so its a win win (fo…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:46 PM
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yes that is true, and a valid point.
/r/MensRights22/02/15 06:56 AM
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that sounds like something that is difficult to verify. of course men will be harassed far more than women, but how do you prove they are harassed more than minority groups when most of the racial/economic minority people being harassed are also male? I think the statistics make it pretty apparent that police target people of lower economic status, which also tends to often be racial minorities.
/r/MensRights22/02/15 06:44 AM
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I can only assume that the video showed the car before the police signaled him to pull over, and I don't see why it wouldn't have. of course we don't have the video for ourselves so we can not be a 100% sure but I think it is reasonable to assume. its not as though it is terribly uncommon for police to try to detain people after stopping them without probable cause.
/r/MensRights22/02/15 06:41 AM
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I agree with you on that point, if you fight with the cops and try to run away you cant really expect anything other than to get shot but the only part of the article that interests me was "Police have said he was driving without his lights on, but Mildenberg said the footage shows that the lights were on, along with the car's turn signal." sounds like they stopped him with no probable cause. all though this is not a mens rights issue, just typical police harassment of lower class/minority group…
/r/MensRights22/02/15 05:08 AM
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all is fair in love and war. noah doesn't understand that the only difference between your sexual strategy and his is that one of them works.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 03:54 AM
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I don't think gaining power at the expense of other people makes you a "hero" (at least not by the general definition) but Do you agree that committing terrible acts, including murder, is acceptable because you're a man on a mission and they put themselves in the way? is anything unacceptable? I see no reason to view morality as anything but subjective. my goal in life is not to cause other people pain but I also understand that greed is a real part of human psychology and many people probably c…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 10:48 PM
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funny how she even admits she was too afraid to simply ask politely if they would mind giving her some more space. as if they were more likely to refuse? come on.
/r/MensRights21/02/15 09:36 PM
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the president is not the most powerful person in the world. he is simply a puppet there to represent the agendas of billion dollar corporations. banks and corporations run the world- the 'politics' is just a side show to keep people distracted. you ever notice how all the people who funded obamas campaign were the same people funding his opponents campaign. because those are the people who will always be in charge regardless of what candidate is chosen to actually sit in the office.
/r/MensRights21/02/15 09:31 PM
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no the war on drugs is not a mens rights issue. it is a race issue and income class issue (as far as how the law is applied), and of course it is an issue of basic civil liberties as well as a financial issue considering the billions of tax payers dollars being wasted on an immoral campaign that has not even managed to reduce drug use anyway.
/r/MensRights21/02/15 09:10 PM
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well if you live in the usa I guess you are in luck.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 08:25 PM
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I think that is a valid pov but I also feel that it is hard for a teen to grow up well rounded without a real father figure in their life. bottom line boys need their fathers just as much as they need their mothers. *also in this case it may very well have been more freedom that my brother was thinking about, but I cant really blame him for that considering our mother was extremely over protective. I think her sheltering of us had a negative effect on both of our social developments.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 06:59 PM
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you could always like let her get a glass of water real quick or something lol.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 05:03 PM
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as if because the name of the thread is amber alerts that he is somehow criticizing the existence of amber alerts? I think you really did miss the point.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 04:50 PM
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when I was 18 my little brother was 14. my dad "kidnapped" my little brother by taking him to live with him against my mothers wishes and against the court order of custody. and all though I felt bad for my mom at the time, because she seemed so distressed, the simple fact of the matter was that my brother wanted to live with my dad- and everyone already knew this. they had tried to reason with my mom and get her to allow it, and after all this had failed that was their last resort. wound up she…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 04:14 PM
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I enjoyed your analysis and agree with most of it, and I don't know much about the herbivore men in japan or their exact ideologies but I think, in the sense that it is similar to mgtow, its possible revolutionary refers more to a social sort of revolution rather than a political one. if the movement grows strong enough it will have some sort of social repercussions, all though the end result here is difficult to foresee, it doesn't seem a likely path to any ideal set of circumstances for anyone…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 07:35 PM
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I agree with you on that point. but like I said in my mind porn is at best a distraction (same goes for tv and video games and everything like that too though) and at worst it can be a very unhealthy addiction. I would recommend people, at least try to be moderate with the amount of porn they are watching, if for no other reason than to have more time in your day be devoted towards productivity.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 12:45 AM
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masturbating is not the same as watching porn though.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 12:36 AM
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yeah but they should be voluntarily degrading themselves to you. not some other guy while you watch. I have to agree with OP on this one. in my mind, I wouldn't like sit in and watch two people have sex with eachother in real life, that is creepy. watching a video of it is not quite so creepy, but its still kinda weird if you think about it. your turning sex into some kind of fiction/fantasy when you should be more concerned with you actual sex life. unless of course your already getting laid ev…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 12:33 AM
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Im not trying to criticize you or misrepresent what you are saying, some people will take suggestions to an extreme though. this is a good suggestion, but I just don't think it really applies to everyone. either A. people have clearly defined goals and are very busy so need a planner to stay organized, and in that case probably already have one B. live a simpler or more spontaneous lifestyle (which can still be productive) and simply don't need one. C. have a lot going on and are not managing th…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 08:48 AM
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again the level of organization that you need in life depends on how complicated your life is and what your goals are. an unhealthy or unnecessary preoccupation with order and routine actually holds some people back. you brush off spontaneous behavior as something that is simply "enjoyable" when in reality it is the basis for the creative spirit itself. more importantly, however, I feel most peoples poor time management skills are primarily a result of low motivation (denial of mortality maybe?)…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 08:13 AM
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again I agree with your basic message but the importance of establishing order can be overstated. things don't always go to plan, sometimes you have to wing it. sometimes being spontaneous and unpredictable are good courses of action. some people may take what you are saying too seriously/literally. you cant establish order in ALL things. something's are outside of your control and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that. some people simply live a more creative/free lifestyle and don't wa…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 07:24 AM
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I don't think a physical planner is necessary for everyone, but I agree with the heart of the post, that is time management has to be a high priority if you want to be a productive person. *although that's kind of obvious to anyone who is already concerned with being productive.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 05:34 AM
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For some men those things may overlap. But I'm afraid it is not my case. sure it is. anything you improve upon will make you more attractive to women and also likely to make other men respect you more too. I don't know about celebrities and because I don't like to discuss trivial matters. I know what you mean. but just because a lot of girls like to chit chat about nonsense and celebrity worship doesn't mean you have to be down on that level for them to be attracted to you. I don't care about an…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 01:48 AM
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it would feel still like a defeat; investing so much effort trying to impressing a set of people I don’t even like I kinda understand where your coming from, and personally I would never consider getting married so if that makes me somewhat mgtow so be it. but I think you are looking at it from too pessimistic of a pov. as if improving yourself is somehow effort that could better be spent elsewhere? my recommendation is improve yourself, but do it for YOU, not for the women. they are just a fort…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 07:48 PM
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apathy and indifference are synonymous.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 07:43 PM
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I don't think that the "special snowflakes" even believe their own bs. its just a cover so they can pretend to be above it all. in reality they are the same as all the other woman and they know it, they just don't want to admit it to others. MOST girls seem to think they are special or "different" so how different could they really be.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 07:40 PM
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I agree with you 100%
/r/MGTOW03/02/15 03:24 AM
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is there really such a thing as a feminist who is not extreme though? woman should be smart enough to realize they have achieved equality. they can vote, they can work, they have to be paid equally by law. I mean what else do they want. if they are still supporting feminism it seems to imply they think they deserve more privileges still.
/r/MGTOW03/02/15 12:15 AM
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this topics been kinda beaten to death on the mens rights sub already but that is really something. its worth noting that the woman who listed him as the father only did so to receive welfare benefits and is actually supporting the mans position. so in this case its just as much, if not more so, the governments fault than the woman. kind of shame, I have always wanted to visit Michigan because I like those peoples accents but if that's how there government does business maybe I will just play it…
/r/MGTOW03/02/15 12:06 AM
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yeah pretty much my thoughts on the matter. of course teenage girls are insecure. the insecurity has more to do with being an adolescent than being female. what difference is it supposed to make to me that insecure teens get upset about the reality around them?
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 05:17 PM
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how dare you. you are clearly a misogynist. didn't you see the commercial, men and woman are the same. a commercial on tv wouldn't lie to us man.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/15 05:09 PM
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I think your missing the point. its not about getting angry. but why would should we not point out blatant double standards? if there was a "sorry its a girl" joke there would have been an uproar. those are just the simple facts.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:55 AM
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it doesn't make me mad. but again this is just another example of flip the genders. would women ever let a commercial get away with a "sorry its a girl" line? very doubtful.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:53 AM
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yall actually noticed that too huh. I was wondering if anyone here would point that out.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 07:52 AM
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my thoughts exactly. good for OP though, getting an early start I guess.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 07:48 PM
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kinda hard to game somebody when they are just looking at a picture of you though I would imagine. never used tinder so I don't really know what its like, but trying to get hookups online seems like it would not be advantageous to ugly people like me. better to just meet someone in the real world so you atleast have a chance of your personality helping out.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 07:38 PM
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I'm just not clear on where we are disagreeing than. I understand psychopathy is associated with impulsivity and criminal behavior, but what's your point? its still interesting to discuss abnormal psychology. that's what I study in school btw. its not as though I'm endorsing any particular behavior here, I was simply speculating that it would probably be nice to be unconcerned with the feelings of others all together. whether it would or not, I will never know, neither will you, just like a psyc…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 02:55 PM
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im not following you buddy. I never labeled myself as a sociopath, quite the opposite. and the definition I'm using for sociopath is the medically accepted definition, essentially synonymous with psychopath, that is someone who does not feel empathy or feel the need to adhere to social norms-as a result of physiological differences in the brain.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 07:50 AM
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being a sociopath would have benefits outside of attracting woman was my point. it is freedom from concern with social norms all together, which in my mind is not a means to an end but rather would be a reward in that of itself. *if you don't understand my pov on the matter its probably because you have a level empathy comparable to the average person. all though I don't want to get too deep into it essentially my natural tendency is to be overly empathetic which becomes burdensome to say the le…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 05:42 AM
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isn't it implied at the end of the movie that the murders may have never actually taken place? I disagree that sociopathy/psychopathy are necessarily a bad thing. not all psychopaths are murderers, or necessarily have any desire to ever murder anyone. personally I think it would be liberating if one could somehow no longer care about other people, and would be a strength not a weakness. whether a regular person could accomplish that goal I would say is doubtful so not really worth striving for b…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 04:11 AM
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not all of those are on Netflix instant..
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 04:07 AM
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too much vitamin B can also be bad for you. I would be careful with that.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 01:02 AM
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You’re more likely to get injured riding a bicycle than catch something from fucking a hooker. I have been injured riding a bicycle plenty of times.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 08:35 PM
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had to lol at that. but seriously yes, what is the constitution doing for us now adays? that silly old thing. the politicians have pretty much done away with it. I mean who needs rights anyway?
/r/MensRights31/01/15 07:12 PM
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I was trying to quit smoking for new years too. although I still haven't managed to get off the nicotine yet (still trying) but I was able switch over to electronic cigarettes. which from my understanding are not as bad for you (no tar in the lungs, or carbon monoxide in your blood). still smoke weed but that's only here and there, not an every day thing. don't really plan on quitting that.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 06:50 PM
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not that I don't occasionally indulge in getting drunk but if you are talking about the negative health effects in general you should know it goes beyond simple dehydration. part of alcohols toxicity comes from dehydration, some of it comes from thiamin deficiency, and some of it is direct toxicity from the chemicals it metabolizes into. just so you know drinking does cause permanent damage to neural connections in some parts of the brain.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 06:43 PM
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well that's great assuming the burden or proof is not still on one to prove that the recording is not for sexual purposes.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 12:01 AM
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yes I did. probably just putting into law what was already standard practice anyway. did you notice the passage the NDAA 2012 in the united states? what I should have said is it is just another milestone on the slippery slope that we have be careening down for quite some time. liberty is all but dead truth be told. I just didn't want to get to deep into this shit on this sub. normally I save my bitching about the destruction of human rights for the libertarian forum because I don't have to worry…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 10:53 PM
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the ONLY way to prove continuing consent would be to secretly film the entire session, which would be a violation of the womans right to privacy I assume, and just kind of creepy. even getting her to sign a contract that she agreed to have sex with you does not prove that the consent was ongoing for the entire duration. this law is nothing but a blatant disregard to civil liberties. and while no good looking man any where will ever have to prove he gained consent (because he wont be accused othe…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 09:35 PM
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they say that is bad for your heart. (by they I mean some people. never did check the validity of that statement.)
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 07:42 AM
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not really. if you look at the blue pill you will see plenty of people ridiculing the red pill, but not much in the way of sensible arguments against. the closest you could find would be purple pill debates, but comments from members of the opposing view point are still generally not well thought out or particularly worthy of mention imo. *I mean I can come well articulated arguments against some of the view points commonly expressed here, but that would just get into nit-picking. on a whole the…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 07:31 AM
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which is a slippery slope towards eliminating everyone elses rights as well.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 06:51 AM
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not to minimize the significance of this but just for the sake of clarity, im assuming by the website this is the UK were talking about right? if they ever make that a law in the united states I would be the first to publicly protest. neverminding mens rights in particular im just sick of all the unconstitutional laws being passed left and right. its funny how for a while I gave up on paying attention to politics only to check back later on the state of affairs and see while I was running around…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 06:46 AM
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I like this post because as I kid I blew off a lot of my dad would try to teach me. part of it was because I was kid (especially growing up in the middle class I was fairly spoiled) and part of it was because my parents were divorced so I was mainly under the care of my mother, who tried her best to get us to hate my dad. as a result I grew up being more feminine than many boys. also I should note my dad was quite a narcissistic asshole and I still stand by the statement today. but nevertheless …
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 06:40 AM
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dont get hung up on anything but lets not try to dissuade people from caring about mens rights. if your only concern is improving your own life that's fine too. but for people willing to put in the effort to be an activist for a good cause I say have at it, the more people who support the MRM the more seriously it will be taken. I mean I dont actively browse the mens rights subreddit, because like you I dont like dwelling on the negative (and a lot of it is just like a newspaper- a bunch of bad …
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 04:00 AM
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that's you're problem
/r/MensRights29/01/15 11:29 PM
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I agree with you. must woman try to rationalize their behavior so they don't feel to bad about it. this woman is most likely a sociopath and incapable of feeling anything close to empathy.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 10:43 PM
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clearly has a severe case of narcissism, seems borderline sociopathic to me as well. of course this seems to be the red pill view of woman anyway, but taken to a pretty extreme degree as there is no hamstering involved, she simply doesnt give a fuck.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 10:41 PM
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it would be an invasion of her privacy, that is true. but if we are accepting the premise that most woman are liars and hypothetically are still trying to carry on a LTR how else would keep tabs on her and make sure shes being faithful other than invading her privacy? would it just be better to sit around wondering if shes cheating... *I realize that might sound like some sort of rationalization on my part but I think people in a ltr are supposed to be more open with eachother/ shouldn't have mu…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 05:30 PM
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glad your still here. you had me worried there. call whatever hotline applies to the country you are living in then silly.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 06:53 AM
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yeah pretty much this is my reply to that. why would you ever point a gun at someones head unless you wanted to kill them? punching someone and them randomly dying from getting hit in the head is one thing, most people who throw a punch don't expect the other person to drop dead but putting a gun to someones head and pulling the trigger....
/r/MensRights28/01/15 04:24 AM
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I don't know about that man, sounds more like second degree murder. I mean I could believe there might be a girl stupid enough to pull the mag out of the gun and assume it cant fire any more. but then on top of that she tried to cover it up/ lied to police. and furthermore she never had any second thoughts about the lie until her friends ratted her out. that sounds more like a stone cold psychopath. I mean I know she didn't want to go to jail, she might have just been in an extreme panic for her…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 03:22 AM
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I disagree with your (implied) assumption that the ideological suppression is only targeting females. cultural conditioning is a bitch, but it effects all of us in negative ways. smart people can break out of that trap but not by selling out and blaming everything on "the patriarchy".
/r/MensRights28/01/15 01:46 AM
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please don't do that. 1(800) 273 8255 is the national suicide hotline
/r/MensRights28/01/15 01:39 AM
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obviously you agree with more than just my right to feel that way. you haven't offed yourself yet... just because there is no objective point to life doesn't mean there is no point to living. purpose is 'subjective', and one purpose is just as valid as the next. there is nothing wrong with being a nihilist as it is a valid pov but even if that's how you think why would you go through life acting as if nothing matters? what else is there to do except pretend that things matter? its all part of th…
/r/MensRights27/01/15 09:14 PM
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it is a note-worthy point that harassment of men is usually different than harassment of women true
/r/MensRights27/01/15 09:08 PM
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"I have to assume theres a whole goddam page about how to put a goddam avocado between two pieces of fucking bread"
/r/MensRights27/01/15 07:41 PM
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Im sure (I hope) that the vast majority of women are not nearly as psychotic as this particular one.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 07:25 PM
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I disagree that education is not important. but I will say that the public education system in the united states is more for the purpose of de-education than anything else. that being said, your personal education is your own personal responsibility. yes you are going to die anyway, but if that makes everything you do in life irrelevant to you than where does your motivation to do anything come from? life is worth living for its own sake, even though one day it will end. just like knowledge is w…
/r/MensRights27/01/15 07:18 PM
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"Furthermore, I want to tell you a secret about the dictionary: It is, in and of itself, an oppressive force. All resources that deal with “the rules” of language are." I was actually planning on reading the whole article until I got to this point. at the start of it the author sounded like she was actually trying to put together a well articulated and semi-moderate piece here albeit still based on a false premise, but wasn't sounding to ridiculously extreme. and then I get to this part. the dic…
/r/MensRights27/01/15 07:08 PM
1

how is that worse than a double standard? what you have described is exactly a double standard, no more no less.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 06:55 PM
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lol "put it anywhere you like". seriously though that lady has always been annoying as shit.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 06:55 PM
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wow thank god. I was just about to look into that, but thanks for doing it for me. I have to say that is a huge relief. the system sucks but maybe not broken beyond repair.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:19 PM
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I don't know about that particular article but controversial topics on Wikipedia are notorious for lacking neutral pov. for example if you wiki "sexism" and scroll down to the part about objectification you will see the phrase "Objectification is treating a person, usually a woman, as an object". if that's not the definition of irony I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 11:11 PM
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I told her she emotionally cheated on me and she denied it was emotional cheating if by emotional cheating you mean she was gonna let him stick his dick in her vagina than yes.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 09:29 PM
1

I always shower before I leave my house in the morning trust me. admittedly I have been meaning to work in an early morning jog atleast a few days a week, that sounds like a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 04:38 PM
2

oh shit man. if I had to be at work by 9 o clock I would have to get up way before 8. im not a morning person and I wouldn't be caught dead rushing around with only an hour to get ready. it takes me a whole hour and 4mg of nicotine just to shake off the sleep paralysis. although putting that in perspective I guess I don't really sound like the spitting image of great mental health.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 07:23 AM
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•Wake up no later than 8am do you have an actual reason for this one? *8 am seems pretty arbitrary. 9 is plenty early for me, and gives me plenty of time in the day. and people who work night shifts are not going to wake up at 8. I know people that get off work at 7:00 am and go to bed when they get home.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 06:17 AM
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http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/serious.html heres a whole page of quotes about seriousness. admittedly none of them are very good but what did you really expect? "why so serious?" - the joker that one would make a good tattoo.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 06:06 AM
1

cops murder innocent man and get paid vacation. sounds about right.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 06:17 PM
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the word "phase" is mean to imply that it is only supposed to be a temporary state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:19 AM
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actually I like this post. I never have been a big fan of spicy food but hell maybe I'll give it another try. it would be something different for sure.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 05:01 AM
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I don't know man. the fda has approved medicine with meth in it to give to 6 year olds for ADD (and im not talking about Adderall, im talking actual methamphetamine) point being despite being neurotoxic, like alcohol, you can consume small enough quantities of it that it will not cause significant health issues but could still be holding you back from achieving your potential in ways you would never know. I am 22 have done every drug under the sun in my life but am at a point where I would rathe…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/15 02:29 AM
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so am I just overthinking this? I was going to include a part in the post speculating on whether or not is really possible to be very healthy in general or if effort should be put towards simply minimizing the inevitable damage that everyone WILL sustain over the course of a normal life regardless. it still begs the question though where do you draw the line? I could argue smoking meth isn't much worse than drinking alcohol so long as you are not doing it too often.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/15 01:56 AM
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agree. terrific movie, everyone should watch regardless of needing examples of alpha behavior.
/r/askTRP18/01/15 11:46 PM
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are we talking seven inches while flaccid ?
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 05:46 AM
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IMO, on top of a patriarch dominating the house, you need religion dominating the morals of a culture to control behaviour/sexuality you lost me at this part because plenty of girls claim to be Christians and are still sluts so I fail to see the necessity there.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/15 07:53 PM
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personally I don't endorse the use of molly/XTC or even 2C-X/ other synthetic phenethylamine derivatives as they mess with the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain, the important ones like serotonin. the classic psychedelics specifically LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, DMT are not toxic and do not have a direct effect on the levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. they act as agonists on the 5HT receptors acting in the opposite way serotonin normally would which simply results in a temporaril…
/r/TheRedPill11/01/15 07:32 AM
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Never heard of DMT is it anything like DXM? not even close. google it. DMT is a tryptamine based psychedelic similar to psilocybin. DXM is a wacky dissociative something along the lines of pcp or ketamine.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/15 07:21 AM
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carbohydrates are not toxic. refined carbs like high fructose corn syrup should be avoided, natural carbs are a great source of energy. there is nothing unhealthy about eating fresh fruit, or potatoes, or rice etc. *but it is worth noting that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you regardless of whether you are overweight or not. don't think just because you are skinny you can drink all the soda you want, it is still bad for you in a few different ways including for your cognitive ability. but …
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 07:16 PM
1

people keep telling me ping pong is a really gay sport (or not a sport at all) whenever I bring it up. I don't get it though, the way I play its definitely a sport lol. but I am reluctant to bring it up anywhere there is not a table.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 05:19 AM
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probably not as much as you think. a lot of people are waking up the benefits of meditation.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 05:12 AM
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anyone with any power today most likely gained it by Machiavellian practices. its simply not possible to be a successful politician for example without being manipulative in some way shape or form (and usually to a rather extreme degree in all honesty.) *power itself is the ability exert influence or manipulation over other people.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 05:05 AM
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what are you talking about being Machiavellian can be compatible with the red pill easily. moreover Machiavelli was not evil nor is being Machiavellian. even disregarding the fact that morality is not objective I would suggest its one of the best ways to have fun in a capitalist society. unfortunately Machiavellianism in the truest sense may become obsolete for most people within the next 20 years seeing as how computers/robots are going to take over most of the work force and the majority of we…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 05:03 AM
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but only smart people understand that message. most people are not smart, therefore censorship actually silences ideas quite effectively. just the facts.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 02:04 AM
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its related to general self improvement. from OPs point of view prayer is obviously an equivalent to meditation, and you should never underestimate the power of meditation. fasting representing not giving in to need for instant gratification etc.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 11:40 PM
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living in the now is everything. you are not happy if you constantly wait for something in the future. the present is the only thing that physically exists, the future is just a concept.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 10:33 PM
2

so queen Victoria isn't your spirit animal?
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 01:07 AM
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no theres a difference though. most people in general are more likely to do what you say if you phrase it as a command instead of a request. that's sales 101. *a polite command that is. as if you are assuming that they already want to do what your telling them to do.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 05:46 PM
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don't forget sports are fun. its productive recreation. I play tennis every chance I get I love it. I don't like to just run jog without going anywhere in particular but I'll run all day long back and forth on a tennis court.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 01:36 AM
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I agree. most important law imo *applies in every single scenario
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 06:43 PM
1

I agree with you 100%. there is nothing wrong with putting effort towards self improvement but some times you just have to goof off and have a little fun. even if it sets you back in your goals a little, you can always make up for it later. *if you get hit by a bus tomorrow you don't wanna lay there dying thinking damn I spent the past few years of my life doing nothing but hard work and forgot to even enjoy myself.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 04:28 PM
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I also just watched that movie a week ago it is really good movie in general and yes I enjoyed the rep pill aspect of whats his face getting some motivation in his life and taking charge. have you seen the movie pain and gain? not strictly red pill but I think it has some value, also a very entertaining movie as well and based on a true story.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 04:17 PM
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i cant remember the episode but frank and charlies mom had sex and according to charlies mom frank wanted her to get an abortion which she attempted to do but it failed and Charlie was born anyway. frank refuses to get a paternity test so we never know for sure.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/14 07:42 PM
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well of course. this bit was quoted in that chapter. I don't think Greene ever claimed his ideas were original. its not "48 laws of power" its "THE 48 laws of power". ;)
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 01:29 PM
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and I respect that pov as well. everyone is different, some people can handle it every day. some people say marijuana makes them feel spaced out and stupid, but other people use it as a form of meditation and it can heighten their cognitive experience. it is very much like meditation in a lot of ways, albeit sort of lazy mans meditation so to speak but the practices are certainly not mutually exclusive and can in fact enhance eachother.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 05:39 AM
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seconded. it is useful for creative purposes, and introspection as well as occasionally just for recreation. now if you are the type of person who smokes every day because that is the only way you can cope with your problems then you have an issue, and there are people like that, but personally I can smoke a couple grams of weed one day a week and not think about it again until next weekend so I don't see it as a problem in my life. there are very few things that I would not ever do at all, the …
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 02:46 AM
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exactly. unless you have a legitimate reason to quit, why would you? smoking weed is fun. I mean if you are stoned every day you wont be a very productive person, but I get high once or twice a week and am still productive in the mean time.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 02:42 AM
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I know. isn't that the whole point?
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 01:55 AM
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theres always a reversal for every law.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 08:45 PM
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but monopolizing knowledge would certainly be a sure fire path to power.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 07:37 PM
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"authority: Make people depend on you. more is to be gained from such dependence than courtesy. He who has slaked his thirst, immediately turns his back on the well, no longer needing it. When dependence disappears, so does civility and decency, and then respect. The first lesson which experience should teach you is to KEEP HOPE ALIVE BUT NEVER SATISFIED, keeping even a royal patron ever in need of you (Baltasar Gracian, 1601-1658)" *EDIT for punctuation and emphasis.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 05:13 PM
0

do you live in new York city or something? a dollar for a cig is kinda steep. I would have said 50 cents.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 05:12 AM
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absolutely. do what you have to do. if people want to be boring and depressed you have to cut them loose. just because you have known them your whole life even doesn't obligate you to keep letting them bring you down.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/14 06:33 PM
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court attention without seeming like you are courting attention.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/14 09:09 PM
1

"instead of dedicating 48 spoon fed posts for one book, that they should just read anyways" you do have a point here. people should just read the whole thing, and we could have had one thread highlighting and discussing the more relevant laws, considering some of them are more about guarding yourself against power than gaining it. but I don't mind this way either, its a little more organized to break it into separate posts.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/14 12:13 AM
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law 38 think as you like but behave like others
/r/TheRedPill11/11/14 04:57 AM
2

yes that song is as faggoty as it gets. and I actually LIKE alternative rock. lol.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 04:22 AM
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yeah he deserves a chuckle for that one. don't know why someone would downvote you for acknowledging the truest part of the post but I ftfy
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 04:05 AM
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I don't know about that. plenty of pretty girls play tennis, play musical instruments, like to jog, read and write etc. IMHO fishing cant even be considered an actual activity, its a lot more doing nothing than anything else.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 12:56 AM
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