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Feminismsabazurc/r/MensRights29/10/22 09:56 PM
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Feminismsabazurc/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:05 PM
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Social Issuessabazurc/r/MensRights06/02/23 06:48 PM
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False Accusationsabazurc/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:03 PM
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Social Issuessabazurc/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:19 PM
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False Accusationsabazurc/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:29 PM
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CMVsabazurc/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:26 PM
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Feminismsabazurc/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:51 AM
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Social Issuessabazurc/r/MensRights08/11/22 07:27 PM
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Social Issuessabazurc/r/MensRights07/02/23 12:03 AM
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Can you prove a correlation? Or maybe after so many cameras are in the streets, after scientific and technological developments in general crimes drop? Or maybe who knows what other reasons are there?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 08:44 PM
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Men and women do view sex differently and men do pursue it much more aggressively and we are made like that naturally.
/r/AntiFeminists12/02/23 08:42 PM
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I have seen some women in the west complaining online that their husbands do not do chores or that husbands should do their own 50% share of chores and I agreed because I thought all their women also worked just like their husbands...turns out many of them do not, that means they are lazy, entitled and spoiled...and considering how often they wanna divorce, no wonder men do not want to marry them.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 04:35 PM
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Even during 2nd wave of feminism, them being influenced too much by hateful groups and lefties was very obvious.
/r/AntiFeminists11/02/23 07:33 PM
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Again, if it can be proven I will agree and that's what it comes down to. Either it's as horrible as you describe or it's not. The thing that makes me doubt that it's a serious issue is that Jews and I think Muslims have done that since forever on a mass (+some none religious people) and if there were such major issues we would know for a while by now since it would affect people on a mass scale. That's what makes me doubt your claims, it just does not match reality. Maybe if we talked to people…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 08:17 PM
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Bodily autonomy has nothing to do with it being bad medically You don't have a right to your body only when it's bad medically When it comes to kids that is the case actually, and yes parents have more rights when it comes to kids' body autonomy than kids themselves and I do trust parents being well-meaning much more than the government. Women wouldn't have medical problems from not having an external clitoris, it's still a right we have, to keep i From what I know removing that is a much bigger…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 07:50 PM
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Again, I'm not even sure you care about men's rights. And no matter how many buzzwords you use I do not care. Just prove why exactly it is bad medically. Also, Kids do not have full bodily autonomy, it's parents who have some rights over that so now you as the government is interfering with parents as well...and for that, you'd better provide a good fuking reason, backed by science...if you have proof of that I will just say you are right, but it seems like you and politicians in Denmark and som…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 03:57 PM
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Point is I do not see proof of major health issues caused by circumcision and it seems like more anti-theist agenda rather than something that would benefit men in some way.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 03:34 PM
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Rape and mutilation my a$$.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 03:11 PM
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Ah, retarded feminist male?
/r/AntiFeminists09/02/23 11:18 AM
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My bad, I thought you disagreed on the issue.
/r/AntiFeminists09/02/23 10:36 AM
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The issue is not the fact they need more sick days. The issue is that they feel entitled to them, the issue is if they get it they will not be grateful, the issue is that instead of demanding a general increase of sick days for both sexes so that there would not be unfairness they only demand it for women.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:32 AM
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Actually other than entitlement or activism I also find it difficult to find other reasons why you would think that disliking feminism means you do not care about men's mental health.
/r/AntiFeminists09/02/23 10:16 AM
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From experience, women are more childish.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:06 AM
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Circumcision...wow what a huge issue...not.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 08:50 AM
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Manslib is a joke as for Reddit bans, hopefully, something will change so that such online media won't be able to ban whoever they want.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 03:28 PM
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I think(hope) it's just a minority of girls and it's not worth changing...also I'm pretty stubborn and I would not change.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 03:13 PM
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If the issue is not about women yes it's a problem. UN should have men's rights groups that are just as well-funded as well but they don't, now that's an issue.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:40 PM
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Are you mentally all there? Did you hit ahead or something when you were a kid? I was banned exactly because feminists support the trans movement and was told that was the reason for the ban. If for some weird reason, you imagine this post said feminists are against trans people that seems your mental health issue, not mine.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:34 PM
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Ideally no but I do not have as much hope of winning on the female kid part...feminists act like they represent women so they could paint it as men interfering with women's business.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:29 PM
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Many feminists support trans movement not my views about it...thought it was pretty clear.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:22 PM
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I posted this on the feminist subreddit first to discuss it there...I was banned.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 09:42 AM
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Yes, so that would solve yet another unfairness.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 08:27 PM
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It's usually women who support this.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 08:06 PM
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Maybe because they work harder, also does not change the fact that it's better for the kids.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 08:05 PM
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If that were the case why it's single father kids who are doing better? And sorry, too many modern women no longer want their natural roles...so they should not have it after divorce.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:56 PM
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Well, considering those children have a higher chance of ending up in prison, unlike the situation with single fathers...I do not care. And if there is a higher chance of getting brainwashed into becoming trans I care even less about special connection. Maybe you would be right in the past but modern women gave up their femininity.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:39 PM
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Today if a kid survives and not be aborted as millions have been, I see zero reasons why they should stay with their mother during divorce, especially guys. And no, I do not believe in special connection.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:29 PM
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Dude, I don't care how you feel.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 06:35 PM
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You should really watch that Key and Peele video....you are that guy.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 06:23 PM
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Jerking off is your advice to an addict and you are asking me? There are some brain cells missing with you people in the west.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 05:59 PM
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I do not think from the description that his libido is all that high. And no I won't advise him to return to addictive habits, unlike you genius. He should get his wife to have more sex somehow, that's the solution. As for your Key and Peele level "anyway"...anyway what?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 05:46 PM
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I'm not religious tho. Do you think just because I dislike anti-theism I am religious? What benefits did you guys bring in 20th century other than death and misery? Commies were anti-theists and I do not have a good impression of them whatsoever. Add to that anti-theists jumping on every anti-religious view just because it's anti-religious, add to that blind hatred many have for religions and it's not a pretty picture. I'd rather have simple pragmatic atheists or agnostics rather than anti-relig…
/r/MensRights07/02/23 04:58 PM
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Isn't that exactly what "using the scientific method correctly" is about? In soft science too often it's very difficult if not impossible to establish facts with the same certainty as in hard science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 12:17 PM
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Your response is naive. You can't stop addiction, it stays. Be it drugs, alcohol, masturbation, or many others, those neurological pathways in your brain will stay and you will always have a craving to return to addiction if your addiction was bad enough. The longer and worse the addiction more difficult it is.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:23 AM
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What we are hardwired to do as animals is to fuk. Also, you view getting rid of addiction too lightly. It's available to kids from a very young age, since basically, they can use the internet. And how many of those 90% boys get addicted? How does that addiction affect their brains, hormones, and expectations when it comes to sex, and performance? I also did not say it was a modern thing, but so many people doing it so often is. I caught a relative of mine, 6 years old watching it by accident(he …
/r/MensRights07/02/23 10:39 AM
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Dude, not everybody is you. Like, it is great you have overcome it and can even control yourself to only do it in normal frequencies but that is difficult. IMO it also depends on how long you were addicted and since what age. I brought up a drinking argument because normal drinking is also ok just like masturbation from time to time but if you are a drunkard who barely managed to get rid of a drinking addiction I won't advise you to drink. Maybe there are some people who had a drinking problem w…
/r/MensRights07/02/23 09:34 AM
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good advice.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 09:25 AM
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This is so funny. Roll out your junk science, please. Ah, yes...science. I will just jump in and do all the research for you...how about No. https://www.google.com/search?q=overmasturbation&rlz=1C1GGRV_enGE772GE772&oq=overmasturbation&aqs=chrome..69i57.4202j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Go search for it yourself. And anybody with that addiction can tell you themselves how it makes them feel, how it makes their body feel and it's not good. But nooo, we must wait for some soft science experiment an…
/r/MensRights07/02/23 09:23 AM
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You think hard science is dependent on sight?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 09:13 AM
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Yeah, early on it was a paradise of freedom. Even insults as horrible as they were...everybody got insulted, every group and nobody cared. Conservatives, lefties, religions, ideologies, whites, blacks, men, and women nobody was safe from criticism and insults and it was not a big deal unlike what they claim now.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 12:06 AM
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Pretty sure it's been an issue for several thousand years, since religion started telling people it's wrong. I love that myth. People were masturbating just the same previously in history, not just now...how about NO. That's just another modern crap theory pushed. Hell, by 16 many already had kids and wife, and had to work their asses off...not saying people did not masturbate at all but to have a delusion that it was something as many people did or as often as today is pure brainwashing...no pe…
/r/MensRights06/02/23 11:39 PM
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I can't even reply. Lol I just noticed you and I have nearly the same Karma score.. you're only 10 higher than me. Noice
/r/MensRights06/02/23 11:25 PM
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Are you saying a woman a female creature who's an angel on earth lied?! I cannot believe this! You are lying! - Some white knight probably
/r/MensRights06/02/23 10:34 PM
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I was afraid using alt account might get both accounts banned...does Reddit allow that?
/r/MensRights06/02/23 10:28 PM
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Hell no, if you can't establish facts and can only make assumptions. Unless you can verify results like in hard science I do not view your discipline as even close to being in the same realm. Freaking nobodies (comparatively) trying to act like they are Newton.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 10:26 PM
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Masturbation is not bad, it is normal, getting addicted is bad. And I say this as someone who was absolutely addicted at one point, it is possible to masturbate without being excessive. And if you were addicted, how can yous say it is not bad? I know very well, once in 3 days does not do you harm, or doing it rarely does not harm you, that's not news to me. But with that logic, maybe telling a person who has a drinking problem to drink is a good idea too. It's bad because it's can be too addicti…
/r/MensRights06/02/23 10:22 PM
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I think he just criticized addicts (cat ladies in this case) who can't control themselves and people who try to normalize such addictions/behavior in general. I just watched parts of the vid so I might be wrong, usually, he has facts to back up whatever argument she makes though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 10:13 PM
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Should their comments look like the profile was deleted? Thanks for letting me know.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 10:07 PM
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LMAO, well at least it's not some Reddit feature. I can deal with childishness, can't do much against the media giant.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 08:03 PM
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The thing is they replied to me recently when I checked and the reply was long. Why would they reply if they just blocked me a few minutes after without waiting for an answer? Or was it some kind of childish method of "winning" an argument?
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:41 PM
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Probably it is done by sub. I have a shadowbanned account on YT as well, there I can see my comments but others can not. There are probably similar issues with other social media and maybe some different methods of stifling discussions here besides this.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:31 PM
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Dunno, I just posted and it worked.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:25 PM
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Good advice. Much better than those who tell him to take up the bad habit he barely managed to get rid of.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:21 PM
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There are obvious issues with masturbation people just seem blind to those.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:20 PM
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First off: masturbation isnt bad, no reason to quit. Shit advice, especially today. Secondly: why dont you talk to your wife about it? Good advice.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:19 PM
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Masturbation is one of the biggest issues today. People get addicted, maybe not everybody but many do. Ideally, you should only masturbate once every 3 days or so but many if not most do it every day or several times a day. When you do that you develop issues...especially if you started it when young. If you started later in life it's not as much of an issue. So let's not paint masturbation as a good habit, especially today.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:18 PM
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Masturbation is one of the biggest issues today. People get addicted, maybe not everybody but many do. Ideally, you should only masturbate once every 3 days or so but many if not most do it every day or several times a day. When you do that you develop issues...especially if you started it when young. If you started later in life it's not as much of an issue.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:16 PM
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Try to have sex every day, make it a part of your routine. I even heard some experts giving similar advice, so try that. Talk to your wife about everything, including how you dropped porn, and that changed you when it comes to horniness.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:13 PM
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Dude even in Iran today (and maybe even in the west when feminism was just budding)...most of the supporters and activists were male...even when it comes to solving female issues it's males who are doing most of the job.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:08 PM
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It just does not exist, only in countries where it's not punishable by law, it might exist. It seems like I predicted feminists and lefties will spread like cancer in European and probably Asian countries that avoided them up till now. Funding mostly comes from international organizations, corporations and western countries.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:00 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/4XwBinM If the picture does not show here.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 06:51 PM
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This is just elitism Plenty of that among academia anyway, would not be anything new. At least in hard science, we can be sure it's deserved. Just because the soft sciences are more subject to the biases of the researchers doesn't mean it stop being an empirical investigation of reality even if a poor one. Just call them studies, do not use the word "science". When people say science brought our civilization to amazing hights and bla bla bla...it's mostly hard science anyway. I do not want soft …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 01:08 PM
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At least his answer to Lud covered everything Lud blamed him for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 01:05 PM
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Most likely never, he denied being anti-women and debunked Lud's arguments
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 01:03 PM
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No, he did deny it and I have not heard him say that ever. Post the vid if you remember that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 01:02 PM
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I knew he was the type when he attacked the "think before you sleep" YT channel, calling them misogynist. Good channel btw and the channel made a great response. Even while I am the type who IMO would be more ok if it was women forcing me compared to women being forced by men...I still understand that I am not everybody and I do not represent every man, for many men it would be a horrible experience and that should not be minimized. Hell, many women have actual fantasies about rape, should we ac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/23 12:24 AM
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Ban porn websites that can not control who watches the porn, it might be kids.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 01:39 PM
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The issue back then was classism and tribalism...not patriarchy like feminists want it to be.
/r/AntiFeminists05/02/23 12:21 PM
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You do not seem to understand how geopolitics works.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 11:50 AM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 11:49 AM
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KKK probably uses similar logic when they talk about black people in general.
/r/AntiFeminists05/02/23 11:45 AM
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I agree most men here do not even want equity, they just want equality and for women not to have special privileges.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 11:32 AM
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Whther such system is purposefully created or not is irrelevant to me.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 02:59 AM
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And women are better and superior anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/23 02:28 AM
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These soft sciences man...if it was up to me only hard sciences and part of soft sciences that are dependent solely on hard science would be called "sciences". Math, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, parts of medical sciences that are dependent on chemistry and biology, and so on ar ethe science IMO...the rest not so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/23 02:26 AM
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r/FeMRADebates is decent.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 12:04 PM
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Saved, great post.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 11:14 AM
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You missed another major difference one is an eco-chamber and this one is not.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 11:32 PM
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Most importantly, the antifemnist coalition needs to include a large number of females. So guys, make sure you differentiate between women and feminists. True, sometimes when I post I make that mistake and make it seem like I mean all women.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 07:34 PM
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I would send people who write crap like that to jail. If you push to create drama and conflict between two groups which consist of billions of people that's what you deserve.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 05:44 PM
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Why not all? Or what's the logic?
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:54 PM
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Thx
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:52 PM
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They are brainwashed since young age from cartoons to movies from schools to college. It's like religion for them and they are zealots...so much for secularism and atheism being better.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 05:50 PM
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But if you ask why men are more stressed they will say it's because they do not know how to handle their feelings, unlike brilliant women...
/r/MensRights26/01/23 04:19 PM
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You talked a lot...and still did not acknowledge that they were right. Female biology sometimes creates difficulties in a workspace for women themselves. Does it mean that all women perform worse than all men? No. It does mean on a societal level (not individual) when you compare two groups men will have an advantage. As for stress men have...obviously considering most difficult jobs are done by men, most dangerous situations need for men to step up, courts and the justice system, in general, fa…
/r/MensRights26/01/23 04:18 PM
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we should have a law that would allow men to retire 3 years early because that would obviously be sexist towards women..= In my country, women retire 5 years earlier...why? Dunno, most likely a western suggestion(in most countries west has a pretty large influence) and would not be surprised if similar laws already existed in some western countries.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 04:07 PM
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Yep, trying to inflate numbers.
/r/AntiFeminists26/01/23 01:45 PM
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True, unless you marry a heartless cheating ahole or a cheating bich. Still, it will work out the majority of the time if you marry a decent human being.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 05:30 PM
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And let me guess...it's all funded by taxes which are mostly paid by men in almost every country.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 04:27 PM
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cruelty That's new. Also, I do not think there is a need for that. Academia and society in general already are doing a good job at that. But warning about women's vices is a very good idea.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 03:18 PM
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Reminds me of my country's culture. I would say many men have their feelings more dulled in favor of rationality and do not like to talk about feelings and prefer to talk more about solutions. And yes More men were like that in the past compared to now. Personally, I think that's how many men are meant to be(not all and maybe not even the majority, but many), it's just low T and modern culture is influencing us and changing that. It might seem bad but when I see men who are not in control of the…
/r/MensRights21/01/23 01:06 PM
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Do these dumb ***ches think radical ideas can only exist on their side? How about this idea? We start women cheating as harshly as domestic violence? I mean we could avoid potential paternity frauds, even men who would get violent otherwise would be able to control themselves better if they knew society would punish the cheater. Or even better passion crimes should not be punished at all...
/r/MensRights21/01/23 10:43 AM
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Threatening to spread some nasty rumors yes. But how the hell is telling relationship is over if there is no sex a rape? WTF is wrong with you. So now if I or even a woman tells their partner they are not getting enough sex and they need to have some or relationship might as well be over it's rape? Which idiot put that on the list? Also, promising something the world and swearing love and then leaving after sex is rape? That's ahole behavior not rape. Of course, you would have horrible rape stat…
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/23 10:05 AM
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Yes, the section 230 benefit was given to them for the sake of people's freedom of speech, not for the sake of platforms.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 11:54 PM
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Similar here. And Communist "voting" was bs anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/23 10:42 PM
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D is not rape.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 09:55 PM
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Abortion is not just a female issue since 50% of babies are male.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 09:52 PM
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Which ones?
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:05 PM
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I think porn is bad for both women and men. Even prostitution is much better IMO.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 11:01 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty is the norm for a reason but I agree that case by case it could be different...still, unless the case has some overwhelming indirect evidence that a woman is an amazing person who would never falsely accuse and the guy is a horrible harasser, I would view him as innocent. I would not say this statistic is useless though if you fully believe innocent until guilty and it does not paint a pretty picture. I was not surprised, I also have talked to some police officers in…
/r/MensRights04/01/23 12:17 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty. That's why they are innocent. Otherwise, you can just be blamed that you killed somebody, and even if the police can't prove that you should not be viewed as innocent. So if that happened to you, somebody said you killed a person, the police did not have enough proof...people should still start viewing you as a possible murderer your whole life just because somebody claimed you were a murderer?
/r/MensRights03/01/23 11:25 PM
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You know very well, that's just linguistic bs game. What we want to know is how many of those rape crimes were actually rape crimes and how many were not, that's what we call "false accusation" and the fact that statistics calls it something different is irrelevant. So in conclusion only 15-35% of allegations are proven true and since I do believe in innocent until proven guilty, that means 65-85% of times men who are accused are innocent.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:51 PM
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2) Today in the west and maybe some other countries, yes. Once promiscuity is normal it's much easier for women to get sex. I am not saying lack of sex caused low T. I am saying low T might have caused lack of sex and btw we do not really know the reason for low T...just theories. Porn addiction and things we consume is most likely part of the reason too. What source are you referencing? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=most+women+in+US+will+be+single+and+childless Why do you t…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:21 PM
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That is not true at all. Hpv does not kill you immediately, plenty of women live with it for years before it has any effects. A man can EASILY get HPV from a ONS and then pass it on to his wife. Cheating on your wife can kill her, so cheating is awful for men. Not sure what's controversial about that. With the same logic, if woman sleeps with multiple men her chances of HPV increases. So if husband cheats the main wrong is that he might cause wife to get HPV or some other decease. If wife cheats…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 01:39 PM
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I do not think dedicating your whole life to work is healthy. Females understand that and I agree...that's about it.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 01:32 PM
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Actually one of the smart things they do is that...yet, now feminists bamboozled them it's not smart.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 05:25 PM
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Well, should change the location then...damn governments are becoming more and more tyrannical.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:36 PM
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Woman can get HPV from cheating as well...that means cheating for women is even worse. Since HPV kills women the guy obviously is less likely to find woman with HPV to fuk. I do not get your argument with HPV...that just makes cheating worse for women...and generally makes sex more dangerous for them. Actually that was an argument of one users here, and she did have some proof that in US very few pay child support. She was feminist and wanted to show that child support issue in divorce court is …
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:35 PM
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1) Hey, that's ok. But I still don't understand why it's so unbelievable. And I'm pretty sure that was norm in many many countries in the past. 2) Does not matter, I did not disagree on that subject, I just added that in west situation might be the same today and it would not surprise me. I mentioned low T and other factors because I think men have some issues with sexual performance today compared to the past because of those issues. That's interesting, than how did another statistics came to b…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:30 PM
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If we are talking which is worse in marriage, wife cheating or husband cheating...it's obviously wife's cheating. Though both are bad. As for paying child support...you know that most people do not pay child support right? I'm not even sure these women know who the father is a lot of times so maybe that's the reason...So one night stands are ok if they do not know your identity?
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:13 PM
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No. It's not lol. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195955/divorce-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/ Well, I checked this link not yours so I do not know how it's written there.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:09 PM
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1) It was a reality. Dunno about now though. 2) In the west now that might be the case. Not good IMO. Such women have more difficult time maintaining family and divorce and cheat more often. As for men, low T, porn addiction, lifestyle/food/ health issues are a huge problem. Also, her men had sex very early, if they could not get a woman their relatives often took them to hoes when they were 15 or so. 3) If you create laws that specifically target such men, yes. If man manages to leave though wo…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:02 PM
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You know that marriage rate decreased right? Obviously with less marriages, less divorces you get...but I will agree that in US people love to paint worse picture than it actually is on that front...both right and left. As for others, after countries develop technologically and economically and people's lives become less stressful, domestic violence and crime in general will decrease, yes.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 06:51 PM
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No. If you really like her and she wants marriage that much, do religious ceremony and celebration, no need to involve government.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 04:27 PM
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The ideology of the movement are defined by books they write, ideas they push and people they view as exemplary and that represents theory...it's not defined by some dictionary definition of the word. As for practice, that's represented by their actions. To me practice matters more.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:40 PM
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Similar idiotic argument is used by lefties btw....so to piss them off I will use it on Christianity. With the same "logic" Christianity has done no wrong too if we just say that people who did wrong were not Christians or their actions were not Christian-like. The ideology of the movement are defined by books they write, ideas they push and people they view as exemplary and that represents theory...it's not defined by some dictionary definition of the word. As for practice, that's represented b…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:34 PM
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I would literally put so many family court judges in jail if ti was up to me.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:28 PM
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I know strippers and onlyfans girls that are happily married, cope harder You understand that there too many divorces these day right? You also understand that women are the ones who want to divorce majority of times right? And that it's men who are more likely to get f*ed up in court right? You are not really justifying anything by saying some men marry strippers...you are just explaining why situation in the west on long-term relationship front is fuked up.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 08:03 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PqFJpI8xeU
/r/MensRights01/12/22 08:00 AM
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Not here. And when they do it's badge of honor :D Exception, no in the past that was the norm? Now in the west it's different/ With current laws in the west maybe. But man can still just leave to another state and do not even admit they are dad and woman will be stuck with a kid, even in the west...and if woman does not even know you name, she is fuked unless aborts. Well, sounds nice but not realistic...unless maybe they are religious. It's because men died more dude...and that shows fewer amou…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 07:55 AM
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1) I know better than you how women would react because I live in my country and most women know and don't(or did not) care. 2) I know very well, there are some exceptions and there are cultures where women had more sexual freedom...but exceptions do not make the rule and are irrelevant to me. 3) I do not care what this sub agreed to but I will agree that with current laws even if woman gives birth in many western countries it will just be additional source of income for them. 4) Yeah...we both …
/r/MensRights30/11/22 12:17 AM
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If the men in your country are sleeping around I guarantee that the women are too. We had lots of tourists, also there were small minority of women who were just hoes and stayed that way without being married. And while yes, some women before marriage slept around, generally her being a virgin before marriage was usually something normal. As for her having sex when she was married was big no...while men doing the same was viewed as normal. And no, that is not the same in most countries. I guaran…
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:49 PM
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Many MGTOW subs were banned.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 08:36 PM
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In my country married men sleeping around is or at least was ok. And it was the same for most of the countries...or at least men sleeping around was viewed something much more minor. IMO it's because women can sleep with hundred men and she will still know the baby is hers but we do not have the same guarantee. I still do not think men cheating is ok but it's much lesser evil compared to women cheating in my opinion. I would add that IMO men innately care about cheating more.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 07:37 PM
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If you can come up with rationale explanation to why they should be allowed...it's not misnadrist.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 05:00 PM
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If you can come up with rationale explanation to why it's not.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:00 PM
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What? No.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 08:59 PM
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Are you a kid or something? How old even are you? Yes, some high-school boys fuked teachers if they managed an often they were the ones initiated. I am not talking about forced sex. If for you that is shocking it's not my fault you are a kid.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 03:57 PM
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"She has everything she wanted and more freedom." Except, can't leave unwanted relationship. But to each their own, you know better than me so if they are happy good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:32 PM
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F-ed up situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:03 PM
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Ideally, even if I think that men cheating is more forgivable, IMO none should cheat in serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:44 PM
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Workaholism is an issue there, that is true...especially in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:38 PM
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Well, here many women sleep with their husbands just fine and love them but still do not mind if their husbands sleep around a bit (with some boundaries). Also...it sometimes makes me think women in general do not care about cheating as much as men do and they care about it in other places only because society told them to. I'm from country that is half in Europe and half in Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:15 PM
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Probably brought by feminists there more recently...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:58 PM
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As long as you do not do it in a way that is in your wife's face or in your family's home it's ok...there are also wives who just do not care at all and some more religious ones who do care. Not sure with current generation but it was generally like that 10-15 or so years ago at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:51 PM
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Well, that's a norm for men in some countries including mine. I do not agree with that but I do think men cheating is not as bad as woman cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:46 PM
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Nah, they would prefer one side open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:33 PM
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Hopefully that is the case but if it's not and it is connected to women's natural inclinations and instincts too...that changes things. As far as I'm concerned this is all recent compared to human history, hopefully feminists won't fuk things up so badly that people will start to doubt whether or women are even capable of governing society long term...for now they are going to fuk-up direction.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 05:32 PM
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Well, you are right...some feminists would try to use that as an argument to "prove" that I am wrong, so it is better to not give them ammunition.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:24 PM
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Ok. If woman has a say when it comes to abortion during first 3 months, father should have a say when it comes to "financial abortion" during that time. Does this sound better? Point of the argument is the same.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 03:02 PM
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I do not even understand "points" your sister made.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 02:59 PM
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I feel the same and it's a normal feeling, IMO wanting fairness is an innate instinct we have...I think even some monkeys have that instinct. Also, TBH where we are now makes me question whether or not whole feminism was worth it.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 02:26 PM
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"I am pro-life for this reason alone." Damn. Not the same for me. That said. if woman has a say when it comes to surgical abortion during first 3 months, father should have a say when it comes to financial abortion during that time.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 12:40 PM
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Sooo...did he fuk the teacher or not? Listen, I support fairness but this one issue I disagree with most of MRA. Banging teacher (unless forced or unless woman gets pregnant) is considered achievement for the guy. You can complain but...I suspect those who are complaining are mostly people from newer generation.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 08:33 AM
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Well, they would ban every other opinion.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 12:57 AM
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It's simple, if woman has several months to abort, during that time man should have an ability to "financially abort"...but generally I do not approve of abortions, financial or surgical. IMO it's just murder and people pretend it's not to make themselves feel better.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 12:52 AM
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Just like I do not think abortions are ok, I do not think avoiding financial responsibilities is ok when it comes to kids. But for those who demand that abortion should be allowed...you can't blame this guy. So in conclusion, this guy is an ahole in my eyes but vast majority of people criticizing him are hypocrites.
/r/MensRights26/11/22 12:26 AM
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Lol, I edited. I meant 6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:13 PM
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"you'd make them" I'm not a slavemancer, lol. I probably would not care much if I earned more but if I was in a position where I earned less I might have taken more chores...I Think would feel more responsible since my spouse is doing more for the family financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:12 PM
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I would actually prefer if cheating was considered as abusive(unless divorce is pending) and some punishment was involved. We, men already get fuked for that in court maybe women would be held more accountable. And it's a horrible thing to do to a person and sometimes causes suicide and mental health issues. The guy nice to tell her that law does not work like now though.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:41 PM
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The issue is that I've heard some 6/10 women claim they deserve 10/10 man...and other women saying you go girl you deserve that and will get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:34 PM
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If both of us are working full time, similar salaries sure...but if I'm working...hehe...you'd better do all the house chores you can, if some are too difficult physically men should do those.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:32 PM
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That person is responsible for that life since they created it. Unless she was raped she is responsible. I will explain it this way, if I see somebody drowning if I do not help I won't go to jail but if I was the one who put them in that situation I would responsible. Woman put the baby in that situation and now she's responsible, nobody forced her.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:15 PM
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Unfortunately and ironically, we got most attention after being brutally honest about feminism. Can't defeat those people by being nice...
/r/MensRights23/11/22 06:45 PM
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I would be happy if that was so easy and that was what feminists felt as well but that's not the case. Source of hatred or bad relationship is not men's rights activists but them. I have been on some of their subreddits as well and they will ban you if you criticize them. They do support each other sometimes but that does not mean much from my perspective. Reason is that even Nazi Germany Nazis might have treated most of the other Germans well(as long as they agreed with their views) but that di…
/r/MensRights23/11/22 06:42 PM
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I always say, when young, if boy of legal age is a virgin take him to hooker or something, will solve this issue just fine, at least confidence part.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:29 PM
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"I don't think the idea of being so much physically weaker and having your entire livelihood depend on your love life is very relatable to you, or even me for that matter. " You got me on that one. The thing is when almost every civilization cared more about women cheating, when in my own culture that is the case, when I see men worldwide usually have much more intense reactions it pushes me to believe that I am right. That said, you might be correct, it might be cultural and I might be wrong. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:43 AM
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windows updates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:26 AM
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1) I understand that many people often view traditions or traditional views as meaningless and mere products of old times which were create based on some nonsense. Some might actually be like that. But some might be the result of people simply following their natural instincts, morphed over time they became traditions. For example humans naturally getting angry at another human cheating might have morphed into traditional view of adultery being horrible(female adultery especially since baby was …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:26 AM
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Maybe different we have life experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:56 AM
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Sorry actually it was a reply to other comment in other post. That said, I've never heard guy saying he "dated down"...tbh we do not really care. What we want from woman(usually) we seriously date is to make home feel like home, be loyal, be nice and if she has some decent looks(for us, since beauty is kinda subjective) that would be amazing...as for money part, most of the men do not care(unless economy is sooo bad that family just needs some proper extra income). Hell, my friend's friend divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:21 PM
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So you made assumption that I'm from one of those countries with that religion and we do not allow divorce. We are mostly Christian country and yes, women can divorce just fine. BTW I believe that most of your countries also had similar views as that but over time it was forgotten in 20th century. Since you guys are not taught history properly in your whatever country I'll add that men cheating was much more tolerated in almost every society and civilization...you assumptions are just based on b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:00 PM
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It's true though. In my country that is or was a norm tbh...and again, it is 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:48 PM
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Listen, maybe you live in a western country with your bs values but that's not a reality. I literally live in a country where that is the norm so I think I know a thing or two more about the issue. Most men can separate feelings and sex very well. And I know plenty of such men...and these men would fight till death for their wives if needed. Also unlike women men can not do paternity frauds. Do I think cheating is ok for men...IMO still no. While less than men, women still care about cheating IM…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:47 PM
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Well...the difference is that man can fuck other woman but truly love his wife...maybe even die for her...as for women who cheat, very unlikely to be the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:19 PM
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I disagree about your opinion about the second one, in real life you have to pretend sometimes to achieve your goal...would not teach to 10 year old kid tho, maybe when they are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:00 PM
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Well...adultery was also seems uncommon in Sparta and Greece it was treated as something horrible(something modern westerners forgot). Open marriage was allowed if husband consented though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:57 PM
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Because system gives them money?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 02:51 PM
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1) Listen if one parent is at fault I do not mind the other getting some more...but that does not change the fact that you are giving money one person worked for to the other forcefully and the amount still should not be half. And how much the other party can get should be discussed depending on what party at fault did...issue is that you are saying woman should get half not matter what...which is pure nonsense. " In most of these cases the main is usually at fault" Data? And what at fault means…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:18 AM
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1) Again, having a father is also important. And things won't be how they were before anyway, so that's a pretty meaningless attempt. All you can do is try to be there for the kid and talk to them...kids are not as dumb as we think, they will know well what is happening. Also, considering that it is wives who want divorce most of the time, that seems to be an issue caused by them mostly, I do not see a reason why a father should get punished for her decision. Kids only seem to be a priority when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:10 PM
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My reasoning is that I consider old culture closer to our original instincts and selves...does not mean our original selves were perfect and neither was our old culture. My belief is that the more civilized we get further we get from our roots. You might be right that maybe it was pure power that made society treat women's infidelity more harshly but as a guy, I will try to explain why I think men cared more and that was also part of the reason. I do believe that if we are talking about our natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:46 PM
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"The entire justice system is bias and corrupt in a million differentways. Against gender, race, religion, age etc. there are plenty of wellknown corrupt judges that are still working today" We are talking about men/women systemic issue now. On the other issues, we should talk about other subreddits. "Take a second to remember that the vast majority of divorces do not goto court and are solved by arbitration. So in the grand scheme of thingsthis not the calamity MRA claim" At least we got to a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:00 PM
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"I too see modern/social influences shine through in certain areas, and biological imperatives shine through in others." Yes, and IMO ideally culture should reflect most of our instincts...well, we probably have some horrible instincts and impulses too, so not all. "paternity tests or even more rudimentary tests like hair/eye color or blood tests that has been around for centries makes him a lot safer from paternal fraud." Even now, paternity frauds happen, and back then we were much less racial…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:14 PM
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Finally, a proper fuking response that actually makes some sense and does not deny reality. I guess we are talking about horror movies and at least with drama and romance we agree that I'm right. Well, currently not as many women are as scantily dressed, that's already rare...feminists deserve to be hated just for that IMO (jk). While some might be scantily dressed sometimes(not as often as you might claim, I've watched plenty of movies) it is usually side-characters and not MC who are like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:37 PM
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The issue is no longer that and we not talking about that right now. The issue is that in the debate instead of proper arguments you came up with a snarky response like "lots of words. don’t feel like reading that. you win I guess" while you wrote an even bigger comment beforehand...if you do not have arguments move on and do not come up with bs excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:30 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0-eaxQ1_k&t=502s Just listen to the first 10 minutes at least and that will be enough. IMO anybody who does not think divorce court is biased against fathers is very ignorant...it's just an honest opinion, not even an insult. Unless the whole system is changed some laws are changed, unless judges' ability to be biased is restricted, and unless who knows what else is done it will be a shit show. 1) No, a huge reason is the lies they say and how they paint the fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:23 PM
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It takes two people, if you did not want a discussion you should not have replied at all...I did not force you do that. You replied with a long-ass comment, and when my reply was also long because of that you acted like I was the one writing long comments for no reason and just want to argue...ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:12 AM
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I think that is mostly the result of women not having the power to do much about it. Nah, they also care less. Men care more because of the reasons I mentioned. Many male mammals are similar on that front. It is not a hard science and I do not think you can get 100% proof but it's more likely that I'm right. "But the difference seems very minor. Plus the negative repercussion of a man cheating or even having interest in another woman is more direct. You are depending on his resources to take car…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:08 AM
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Well, lots of soft sciences today might be called as pseudo-science. IMO only hard sciences and soft sciences which are very closely related to them are sciences. Studies? Hahaha, well I guess it would be looking at reality. The numbers are pretty clear on who gets the benefits, that's just how the system is designed. We can't even get to a point when a husband does not have to give half his shit to a cheating wife. Even in the army cheating wives will keep benefits if they are married long enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:24 PM
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Considering your comment had plenty of words as well I guess you are the type who likes talking rather than listening so...sure, write some monologues then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:11 PM
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"Dating down" is not a phrase men use...it's women's phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:10 PM
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Go watch some Hollywood movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:09 PM
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If you have a dishwasher, washing machine, and proper vacuum cleaner and know how to manage time when cooking, it does not take that much time. And when you cook, you should cook a lot so you won't have to do it every day. If you have all that 2 hours might not even be needed(depending on house size tho). Also, you can watch some videos and movies while cooking and doing some other chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:47 PM
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"That “pair bond” nonsense is nothing but incel science, there isn’t a shred of scientific evidence to support it" Whatever you call it I do not care...point is that they are more likely to divorce and cheat. "Also women are more likely to be forced into poverty " Hahaha, I have read that garbage argument whenever I search this topic. Her not managing her finances well after divorce has nothing to do with divorce treating men unfairly and does not make it any better. Do you know what it sounds l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:44 PM
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Did not even know there were many studies on that. point is less likely for such women to stay with the guy and not cheat. "I don’t know anyone who has slept around that doesn’t have something “wrong” with them" Now that's a bs. Maybe for women, it is true, but I know plenty of men who slept around and they are fine...nobody had a perfect life and everybody had issues but generally ordinary people. Hell, I know plenty of men who lost their virginity at 14 or so and they are doing just fine as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:37 PM
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Nothing complicated tbh. Men can pair bond just fine even if they have had lots of partners before(maybe there is some limit but it's higher). Women themselves actually prefer experienced men. People who had lots of partners before have a higher chance of cheating and unlike women, we do not give birth, and divorce courts fuk over men more often...so women cheating is worse too. IMO many men also have natural instincts to avoid serious relationships with women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:06 AM
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That's interesting, now narrative seems like chores are very difficult and take a lot of time which is not true(unless the house is too big and you have too many kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:49 AM
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Naah, I have the same experience as her...it does not take that much time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:47 AM
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"I really don't see how, unless they have a truly huge house, have a lot of kids, and/or only clean once a week so every chore piles up into a day long process." Thank you. That's exactly what I said and so many disagreed, I started doubting my own experience. My mom worked and did chores...chores took 2 hours or so on average...and she did not even let me help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:45 AM
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It does not. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:40 AM
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Your guy's reaction comes from pure social constructs...much less relevant and easily manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:39 AM
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Naah, I know you are trying to be fiar but that's bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:38 AM
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The narrative of having a job is something to be happy about is only true if you really like the job...maybe some need a job to pass time better and additional money? The narrative that being a housewife is worse than career woman is a bs though unless you really like your job...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:21 AM
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LMAO. You must be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:18 AM
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"it would only take at most 2 hours a day for housekeeping." I knew it! I always said that but feminists were like "noooo it takes sooo much time". Also, you have the opposite taste in men compared to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:16 AM
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1) "Are you trying to say that men are overall more promiscuous or that women are more ok with men being more promiscuous?" Both of those. "you saying had a girlfriend before or actually promiscuous like had lots of casual sex?" Depends on guys...both can happen. TBF, not every guy can get lots of girls even if it's ok in society. We also had plenty of men who were religious and did not touch women till marriage. This promiscuity on men's part became more of a norm after communism in the last hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:59 PM
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1) You are wrong. it's not just my experience, it's basically common sense here so I represent tens of thousands on that issue...so you are talking to living breathing statistics :D Naaah, most women prefer experienced men and such men have an easier time making women like them, rich or not is not that relevant...parents might get in the way if he's too much of a womanizer though...it is what it is. 2) Well, men had to take much more responsibility and do more dangerous tasks than women so they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:53 PM
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I do not know what we are arguing about now. I do not disagree with what you are saying, my point is that while yes, the majority of women would prefer settling down at that time that does not mean they can't go behind their husband's back if they wish to and age less of a barrier if it's just sex. If you are asking why would they risk if they prefer their married lives when they can't pull hotter guys anymore, I can only say people do irrational things for addictions and momentary pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:22 PM
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1) Donno, whether he shoved, slapped, punched, or whatever similar...point is that when you are a criminal locked up in prison you will be viewed as dangerous and when you attack people will react more severely. I would prefer if guards had some amazing self-control and did not have such bias, but that's unrealistic. 2) I am not saying it's insignificant, IMO on this issue we probably have similar views. I do think society overlooks women's aggressiveness much more. While some of that comes from…
/r/MensRights15/11/22 04:28 PM
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First, men are more in general aggressive, it's a fact. Second, Women's aggression is more overlooked, I agree with you on that...part of the reason is that we are physically stronger and part of it is discrimination. Third, if you attack the prison guard, "tackling him to the ground face first" is part of the actions you should expect. I do not know what kind of person you think I am or who you are but at least I do not have a delusion that prisoner attacking the guard will not be attacked or t…
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:06 PM
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And why is it higher? It's because we are also more aggressive...I do not have an illusion that we are not. It's not an issue I see we can solve, our aggression is part of us and I'm ok with it. Maybe some better education systems and it providing better ways to spend our pent-up energy would help. I do not disagree, treatment should be polite but if you start punching guards they will punch you back and more. The issue was the neglect of guards afterward and the incompetence of the medical staf…
/r/MensRights15/11/22 10:53 AM
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1) In My native country most men are(or at least my father's/grandfather's generation) promiscuous and women not so much. So my examples are more than anecdotal, it's based on many many people's experiences and norms of the country in general. You say that only personality matters and promiscuity does not is...kinda naive tbh. While yes, personality and willpower do matter...promiscuity does influence the character itself, it shows some of the values the person has, sex is addictive and some get…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:43 AM
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"promiscuous guys usually stayed away from me once it becomes clear that we have different relationships with sex." I think you misunderstood me. Unless they are pieces of trash, most of the guys like that will not play around with virgins when they do not have serious intentions. Some aholes will play around with inexperienced women and even virgins using their experience advantage, but most do not(IMO) because most people are not trash. But when it comes to serious relationships, when they rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:11 PM
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Maybe, too indirect connection for me.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 09:01 PM
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Hehe, maybe it will be more difficult for women compared to the past but you are underestimating them too much, they can easily get some compared to the vast majority of men if it's just sex. As for men, when they are 40 they have money and experience, they can get some using one or the other or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:00 PM
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They want both.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 08:56 PM
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"Feminists think that women's prisons should be closed, no women should go to jail no matter what." That is a separate issue and it is men's issue because sex is a criteria of unfair beneficial treatment. As for this story...My point was that I would feel sorry for the person in either case, I did not feel sorry for him just because he was a dude and it just seems like a prison issue rather than a men's issue. The only way it might concern men's issues is that most prisoners are male. But that's…
/r/MensRights14/11/22 08:54 PM
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Those social nets mostly benefit women and taxes funding them mostly come from men...and that's ok tbh. The issue is instead of being respected because of that men are still getting berated...so f them.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 09:10 AM
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He died because of the impact and medical staff and officers were negligent. Is this a men's rights issue tho? US in general has some serious prison issues tbh.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 09:05 AM
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Yeah sometimes promiscuous people do get together...but I've seen more of the opposite with men who were like that, they often tried to find more inexperienced partners when it came to long-term relationships. The issue with promiscuity is simple, chances of cheating is higher and that's the main issue. Also, sex is addictive, it's ok if both partners stay healthy and satisfy each other but what happens when one of them has some health issue for a while (for a month or for year+) and can't satis…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:57 AM
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It's either because those men had no other options, or because they simply did not know about her past, or they were inexperienced when it came to relationships, or they loooved her too much or they just did not care because of their western garbage values/views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:51 AM
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Glad to see some women caring. First person, I saw talking about men's rights was a woman too.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 01:05 AM
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I think men born after 50s were raised differently in US, in 70s many of them already had a lot of stupid values and it got worse over time. I would say my country is about 20-30 years behind on that front and what I noticed about men of my father's and even more so with my grandfather's generation is that they do/did not give a fuk about many many issues the current generation gives a fuk about...Being "nice"? Fuk that. Their views were closer to Tate's, they did not treat women badly, consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:30 AM
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I would say most probably(I hope) won't...it is weird to still be hung up on a person you met decades ago, lol...some people do be like that tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:15 AM
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Oh, that might also be a reason...have not thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:10 AM
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Unlike countries where coming out is an issue in the west, it's not much of a problem comparatively. And many men are just very awkward with women, I do not think it's the same with lesbians, or at least I do not think they have as many (relationship-wise)awkward people...maybe I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:39 PM
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"Lesbian women can get far better dating success that most men ever can" That's probably just a fact not even an opinion, at least in the west. I would say my unpopular opinion(for this sub) would be that men cheating is much more ok than women cheating and generally a one-sided open relationship where a man is allowed to have sex with others as long as it's not an emotional affair is something that is not a big deal, unlike women doing the same...and such society will do better than the one whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:20 PM
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"But “adult relationship” made sense to me." That made sense to you and "we are friends" or "we are friendly" would be more problematic? There are some issue with the way you guys communicate. From what I've seen people mostly use "adult relationship" to describe a "romantic" relationship. Just google it and you'll see what is the context the phrase is usually has.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 04:34 PM
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All I can see from the west is the push to normalize cheating and creating laws that destabilize family structure on that front.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:19 PM
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You are wrong. I think the issue is painted worse than it is. Humans are not as fragile as you think, and those cultures have been doing it for millenia and Jews did wonderful job maintaining their identities and societies over centuries, so IMO others should mind their own shitty business. I have not see any proof of it being harmful either. To me it seems like anti-theist groups pushing the issue.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:16 PM
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Ok...since you are so stubborn. How about you go to some pirate website that has an advanced search function and filter horror movies? And check which sex is the main character more often. Glad you at least do not disagree on drama/romance. And I am not the only one who noticed this: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-protagonist-in-horror-movies-almost-always-a-woman https://www.quora.com/Why-do-horror-films-tend-to-star-female-protagonists-more-than-other-genres https://www.reddit.com/r/horror/c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:56 PM
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"don’t listen to any of those men" "Don’t disclose your past" Now, that's a horrible advice. Again, some of you women are so obsessed with empathy that you do not see that rationale advice is often better.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 11:00 PM
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The thing I despise about many women's advices is the lack of rationality for the sake of empathy. Words that sound nice but do not mean much. The reality is that I would never ever advise any man to take a woman who has a lot of bodies, people like you do not give a fuk about huge risks men take when they marry today but I do. My advice would have been for her to manage and stay loyal when she's in a serious relationship, if she has the reputation of someone who has been with many people but at…
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:58 PM
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See through what?
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:48 PM
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"I would say" Who cares about feminists' thoughts on masculinity? Hell, I do not even care about most women's verbal responses on that topic on that in today's era...you guys say one thing, do a second and think the third. Mind your own misandrists.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:47 PM
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I disagree...a lot of the things he says are just old-school common sense.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:45 PM
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Well...considering feminists are sexists yet they have so much power and many listen to them...I do not see anything wrong when it comes to listening to Tate. A lot of his views are just old-school common sense. And you did not even provide an argument why he is wrong...
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:44 PM
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Everyone has a choice...even you with your trauma. Your experience and trauma caused but it is not your choice but your reaction to it is. The way people like Andrew handle emotions is like that, they stop their emotions for a moment, analyze and dissect the problem with pure rationality, come up with a solution, and do their best to solve it. Can everyone do that? IMO yes, but it takes willpower. So many women and men can't do that and they allow trauma to influence them. The thing is, such wom…
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/22 10:34 PM
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Have women thanked men for building cities? Oh, my bad...women could do that too it's just evil men did not let them...in every civilization.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 09:11 PM
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"Men designed every city out there with men in mind" Another imagination?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 09:10 PM
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Whatever, I don't care about Drake, that's not a topic and maybe you are right( I do not know too much about them). Main issue is her and Henry, and you could not refute that "adult relationship" was a dumb phrase to use in your latest reply. It is a red flag...it's not about blame it's about cause and affect...and affect can be bad. As for your question...lol, forget about grooming, many men of my generation in my country lost virginity to older women when they were 14 or so...so no, I don't th…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:00 PM
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No...some parents just die and the other one just does their job. Hell, sometimes both die and grandparent has to dot he job and I know such people as well. And if you are divorcing you should prepare...but that is your issue, not your husband's(future ex) issue. And I assume since she is not working so I guess he is...so how about she gets a job while they are together and leave after half a year or so. Does not justify cheating whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:29 PM
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People have kids alone and earn money just fine, maybe if kid has some health issues that would be a different case. Still, of you can't take care of your kid's 50% basic needs financially maybe you should not get 50% custody to begin with, at least temporarily until you get your life in order. Sure as hell is not husband's duty to take care of cheating wife's issues, in fact that sounds like problem of her own making since she cheated. Glad we do not disagree on other points.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:29 AM
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I know what word "relationship" or "adult" means separately. When you call something "adult relationship" though...it's different. If she just said, "we are friends" and then talked about the boundaries that would be much better. He was smart for having those boundaries btw...if he did not have those and she just blurted out they have an "adult relationship"...yeah...not a good look. I just googled "adult relationship"...90% of the people/websites are using the phrase when they talk about relati…
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:53 AM
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It's a good thing...less things you give a fuk a bout less mental health issues you will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:41 AM
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First, do not even bring up abuse, almost nobody will disagree that in such case cheating is understandable. Second, if she does not have money...earn some...that's what men do. Third, they could just tell the husband and in most cases if she insisted they would just divorce. Fourth, whole issue is that women can just cheat and still get 50% of the men's shit...and moronic people think that's ok. I won't even mention the fact that unlike men...women do get pregnant. Women cheating is worse and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:20 PM
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"men also seem to judge female infidelity less harshly" Brainwashed people. Considering women cheating have a chance of getting pregnant and considering that they still might get 50% of men's shit...I would say it should be the opposite. Women cheating is much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:13 PM
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I've watched plenty of movies. And I am talking that in general that is truth...pretty large majority of movies in these genres are like that. I remember once I got curious so i went on one pirate website and wanted to find horror movies with male lead and I'm scrolling and scrolling...and nope, no luck...they are definitely rare. As for romance and drama...come on...don't even argue about these ones. That example is mostly comedy btw and parody of horror. The movies I'm talking about are where …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:40 PM
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Most of the romance, drama, horror I've seen have a female lead or it's mainly from women's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:27 PM
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I do not want to be rude, I just have that manner of speech when I write so hopefully won't offend you...so I will try to explain male perspective since many women in the west do not seem to be able/care to see that perspective. If I am in his position I do not want her to fuking call it "adult relationship", especially considering her weird history with Drake. While some might think it's normal, many won't...and it's pretty fuking clear to me and you seem oblivious. Just do not use such weird p…
/r/MensRights08/11/22 06:55 PM
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I am blaming her weird talks...maybe it's journalists who make it look weird but...her talks in these articles have weird vibes. If I was an adult who has not done/said anything weird to her and she's talking like that in interviews...yeah fuk that, I would blame her kid or not, and I would put boundaries as well and in fact I would avoid her like a plague. Saying she used phrase "Adult relationship" innocently...who the fuk taught her how to talk?
/r/MensRights08/11/22 04:26 PM
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I am not even religious, lol. Some of you westerners are so obsessed with being anti-theists that you will fight anything that religion might support even if it is good. I do not care, I looked at my life experiences, experiences of some people I knew, used some of my own understanding of humanity and men, added to that bunch of sources which seem to be agreeing with me majority of the time and came to my conclusion. You and other Dawkins wannabes can continue to deny the most probable answers b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:21 PM
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Naah, her talk about Drake had a weird vibe as well...back then I thought it was Drake saying to her something weird but now it seems like she might be an issue and not the men she interacts with. Or maybe some men were an issue in the past and now she's a bit f-ed up mentally.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 04:12 PM
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Nothing to yikes about, if you are an adult woman and while you were minor nobody went out of their way to groom you and teach you some weird values and you still fall in love with older guy...I have no issue with that and I do not care.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 04:10 PM
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I think when she said "adult relationship" it was kinda misleading...she could have just said they were friends.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 10:14 PM
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I would find that as an issue if he was intentionally grooming the kid...but some girls just like older people and it's not grooming. We need to research grooming more to differentiate between grooming and just younger and older adults liking each other.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 10:14 PM
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I read well. I will explain this way, after 18 parents owe nothing we agree on that. Before 18 they owe 50% of food, shelter, water, whatever necessary other bills, medicine and education. What we are arguing is that you are saying if parent is rich government should demand them to pay not only for those but also extra...and that's point I do not get. Your example, depending on how necessary it is would fall under example of parent paying for 50% of shelter expenses. If one parent can not pay...…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:58 PM
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We are talking about general situation and generally men do it more often, that's all I am saying. When you look at history it's men who step up first when there is danger coming much much more often. That does not mean there are no situations where women do not step up or do amazing things like sacrificing themselves for others...my point was that it's usually men doing it. In my country's history we have female martyrs as well who managed to do things, withstand suffering that vast majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:52 PM
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Listen, I am from the country where thousands of men would die for women, kids and elders at home in defensive wars. I will agree that when it comes to kids women are willing to step up more often, not compared to men but compared to other situations women step up. But part of the reason women do step up IMO is that women sometimes act like the there is a not risk of physical violence, and some times they are right tbh. It's less likely for most men to hit a woman...sometimes if men acted the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:45 PM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:36 PM
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That's a very good point. Saving the comment.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 03:35 PM
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Not that old...just issues with a country. Tech and internet industry developed late here...but when they did it was extremely fast...and changes were very obvious. People become comparatively colder, more introverted, less emotional and there were less personal interactions between kids outside of school. It was sooo fast and obvious it was insane. To understand how animals behave you must study those animals, spend some time with them, and communicate with them, the same goes for humans IMO an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:30 PM
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Well, those subreddits and Reddit, in general, made me wary, been banned on several subreddits, so not gonna take risks still. I am talking about feminism in general, and those subreddits and censorship-loving ***** there are just the results of it. I disagree about the hateful narrative here, I think you wish we all talked tactfully and politely like women or just ignore and not be angry at blatant censorship, suppression, and issues in legal systems all over the world where feminists gain powe…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 07:14 PM
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How the hell is that relevant to understanding the implications of physical violence well? Or are you trying to change the subject and that is your pathetic attempt to "prove" that men do not fight to protect women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:57 PM
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After you guys mixed with lefties during second wave feminist took a deep dive into trash can. Joke of a movement.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 06:43 PM
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Naah, the difference is that feminists and mods there especially are man-hating, censorship-living ******, and the only reason your garbage narrative even exists is because of a bunch of money from establishments, censorship, and various governments supporting your fascist movement. P.S. You can use your imagination for what I meant with ******
/r/MensRights05/11/22 06:42 PM
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Scientifically backed my a$$. Maybe you are from iPod generation and have not grown up surrounded by people as much or only interacted in a controlled environment when young, but that's just common sense. I do not even know a guy who has not fought at least once in their life and among men threat of physical violence is always present in the background of our minds(unless very sheltered). I think JP mentioned something similar but it was common sense to me with or without some sociologist claimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:37 PM
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Listen if anyone who is here still needs proof that most feminists especially mods in those subreddits are censorship-loving, man-hating ******* they are dumb but hopefully this will convince some those dummies.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 06:31 PM
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Even an ugly woman can get a man so for women the pressure is not as much, if it is it's because of their own weak minds. As for men, well if you are ugly and don't have money...it won't be easy(unless you have some amazing game or personality). And even if you are handsome, a woman will still look at how much money you have or will have in the future when it comes to serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:53 PM
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Yes, obviously men are more willing to fight and even sacrifice their lives for women since the dawn of time. Maybe women in general are wired to care for kids more though. Anyone who has ever read some history and had interact with humans, anyone born before internet, iphones and ipads...people who actually grew up interacting with other will know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:48 PM
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Generally, men are the ones who will jump in combat and defend...that's just how the reality is since the dawn of time. When it comes to strangers' kids it might be women who will step in more often but even that IMO is usually because women do not understand the repercussions of physical violence as well as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:46 PM
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"But the irony it's funny that one group that seems to defend and call it "fatphobic" to call on their actions." Please rewrite this, I do not understand the sentence at all. While the proof might not be at the level of hard science, most of the sources I have found do say it causes problems and it does match my real-life experience. The issue is that porn is a huge industry and I am sure at some point they will just bribe researchers to push narratives they wish. It would not be the first case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:01 PM
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And she should not get anything from me if she cheats...it's like if you worked for a company and you burnt the whole company down knowingly if you won't get compensation just because you did a job there. In fact, if you did it on purpose you will be the one paying back. That's why no-fault states and countries are very obviously anti-men since it gives ability to women just cheat and gets rewarded for it with the man's money...another good reason for men to dislike feminism. No, I understand ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:51 PM
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So the only thing you are arguing is about salary being 25$ instead of 18$. There are many numbers and you are choosing the highest IMO, here are some: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-Nanny-Salary-by-State https://www.talent.com/salary?job=nanny And considering fathers spend much more money on families compared to women than the money I calculated that argument is my win...even if the nanny salary is a bit higher. The only argument you have left is the wife's future pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:33 PM
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Actually reminds me of Andrew Shulz's show where a lesbian woman actually basically said the same thing...and it is true when you do think about it. Also, your post reads like an angry feminist has written it :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:11 PM
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Ok, you seem to like numbers, what a coincidence, me too. Salary depends on what the employee is willing to take and what the employer is willing to give. If an employer is too poor the employee will get next to nothing. But fine, let's assume it's a nanny job, let's assume a woman does a nanny job more than a man. We know a woman does 40 minutes of chores more than a man per day. That means the rest of the time is balanced already, what we need to find out is the cost of that extra 40 minutes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:32 PM
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1) How are you even comparing the two? Did the guy who married you hit you? Abuse you? If he did not do anything similar how the hell does he owe you anything? And if he pays his share which is enough to cover 50% of the minimum(or slightly above) of food, water, medicine, education and shelter...how is he neglectful. Why are you demanding more from him? On what grounds? His money is his...not yours or kid's. 2) So I have to pay more because you can't provide a better lifestyle for kids? Sounds …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:56 PM
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"Again live in nannies can make up to $500,000 a year." Irrelevant. That's why I count the time they spend not the jobs they do... Nannies might get paid that much because some families might think it's worth it but most families would never pay that much or even hire a nanny. It's like saying if a man fixes some tech at home he should get paid like a professional...nonsense. "And you assume that all money earned by men is something that women and kids need or want." Actually, I do, I would say …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:33 PM
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"You're also ignoring the value of her labor. She's already got you beat on time." I'm not, she might have more labor but if I bring more money that means my labor costs more. And men do earn more and put more money in families. You also assume that all the chores are something men and kids need or want. "If you actually calculated it out, I would bet you anything that alimony would be higher than it currently is." It depends on how rich the husband is...it can get very high...unrealistically so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:34 PM
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I could tell you a similar argument about your complaints about my version of the law :) While there will be some men who might take advantage of women, that does not mean most will and you should just have a good idea about their level of integrity before marrying. And considering it's the women who want divorce most of the time I would say that in my case it's less likely for the people to be taken advantage of. Children will be taken care of, what you are asking is to force the father to go b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:28 PM
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1) Well, that's not the reality, a woman is making decisions on that front so...it is what it is. I am not even arguing that father should have a say during pregnancy, that's unrealistic. 2) And, should we say the same for women who no longer act like women? We could do just fine without them as well. Hell, if you wanna go down that route there are not that many groups that society absolutely needs. Also, I never said men should not have any responsibility, I just told you that you are putting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:14 PM
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I did not miss anything. Everybody wants high-paying jobs, especially desk jobs you can do remotely, not a big revelation here. If women are oh so equal and maybe even better as feminists preach they would get those jobs without external support, that's what men do. Businesses can hire whoever they want and when you force them to hire women because you think that they are discriminated against, you automatically discriminate against men who could have been here hired but were not because you mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:58 PM
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I find it funny how you basically told me I should just suck it up if women take advantage of men using marriage and the law allows it and now you get angry because some men could use my version of laws to fuk over women...should I just remind you "marriage is about partnership" and say this: "if you're just thinking 'he'll abandon me and my kids if we divorce, then literally girl, do NOT get married because you're not committed enough, and don't truly want a partnership." https://www.reddit.com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:57 PM
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You talk like you are doing me a favor...you are doing yourself a favor as well and that is assuming dad wants a child to begin with. You also talk like we even have some kind of ability to force you to do that...we don't...it's 100% your choice and 100% your responsibility...I do not want responsibility for something I have no control over. As for after birth...well, since man was 50% responsible when it comes to conception and sex...he owes it to the kid, you are responsible for the life you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:48 PM
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1) I see but do men putting in more financially not more than compensate for that? How much is the difference? 2) And ignores the money and labor I already put in, which might be even more than hers. Am I wrong? As for alimony, that's making too many assumptions about how well the wife would do...very unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:39 PM
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It is apples and oranges, the issue is that many feminists do not seem to agree. The major reason why we are even talking about men vs women is exactly because of feminists...if it was up to men, even if we did more we would not care all that much. Issue is that you for some reason, most likely because feminists preached about this, want to have equal representation in areas where you are not as good as men naturally...men do not want the opposite, we don't care. And you tend to focus more on ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:34 PM
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I disagree with that. Abandonment would be if I just left and paid nothing. If I am paying half of the minimum the child needs for half(of the minimum) the food, water, shelter, education, and medical bills...I do not owe the child any more than that. Where did you come with "you owe child that"...how about no. So according to you, you have the right to abort the baby, man should not have control over that...ok, I agree. You also think that even though you can abort the baby I should not have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:14 PM
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Basically, what you preaching is that somehow women's ability and give birth is something I must pay price for...because I should be a kid? Look maybe you are Christian or something, but I'm not...I do not owe you kindness. And if I am the one who should take your issue...which is not my fault btw into consideration I'd better get something in return. So it seems in the west you are getting all those benefits, it's mostly funded by men and you act like you are entitled to it? You are not entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:03 PM
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Ok...how about this. Instead of Q and A use real-life examples. Use theoretical situation that could happen in real life and based on that explain my "wrongs".
/r/MensRights02/11/22 01:18 PM
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Most of the chores are done by women...not all. While chores take time compared to full-time job it's much easier. Also, you must take into account that 50% of those chores is her duty anyway. So taking into account the things I mentioned: the fact that 50% of the chores are hers anyway, the fact that the husband does some chores even if the wife does a bit more, some of the chores are things mostly she cares about, the fact that with modern tech chores take much less time compared tot he past..…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:12 PM
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"The data says on average men do less than women. " When it comes to chores, yes. But when it comes to job or how much they put in families financially men are ahead. When you say count for example, do you mean you count chores or do you mean you count chores + full time job extra hours...that part confused me. WOmen do more chores but I posted in my previous comment that the difference is not that high. I understand the logic when it comes to potential but this is not the past, when women becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:07 PM
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First, you do not know my country's history. That's one of the mistakes feminists make, they lump every country together even though sometimes they have vastly different histories and cultures. So calm your privileged colonialist a$$ down and stop acting like our ancestors were the same just because we might share similar skin color. Second, do you want to talk about history? A person from the west? From experience, the vast majority of you guys are not good at it(even worse than middle schooler…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:54 PM
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Again, while did bring kids into the world the only thing I owe them is food, water, education, and shelter and that's it...beyond that is me being fatherly and kind. No, I do not owe kids big money because I'm rich, that's nonsense. You can even abort a kid and I not only have to provide for the kid but provide a lot of money? Nope. Also, In my country when feudalism existed, many nobles even sent kids to be raised with peasants until 10 or so as a tradition so that they could learn hardship, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:44 PM
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Fortunately, it's no longer as bad here on that front. We had a revolution 2003 and a lot was fixed. Such laws insure that people are based on qualification not based on sex, race, or religion. What you assume is that since women are not represented as much in some fields even though they finish university more often something shady must be going on. First, that's just your assumption, not facts. Second, while more women in general finish university, the degrees they choose and jobs they choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:38 PM
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1) I think you misunderstand me. I never said their work was valueless...never. Their work does have value...the issue is that husband's work and the money he puts into the family also has value, maybe even more. Yet, after the family breaks up, because most likely the wife wanted it...you tell the husband to compensate the wife. Government acts like the husband did not put anything into the family and after divorce the housewife is compensated with husband's money sometimes for years. She did w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:21 PM
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My argument is that such laws should not exist, to begin with, and are partly the reason why men hesitate to get married. Democracy is great but if one side, even if it's a majority, pushes too much there will be a backlash. If other than women any other social groups did that to other groups and legally were given so many advantages, there would be violent protests. IMO women are wonderful effect is saving you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:11 PM
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1) Most men and women want the money that comes from the job...not the job itself. They later might get obsessed with it and lose sight of what's important (women do better in that aspect, men can become workaholic more often) but for most careers only matter because of money...it's a job, not a hobby. 2) Again, I am not an alien I lived in a family and you overexaggerate the time it takes to clean or take care of kids. Even housewives are not doing 100% of the chores. Also, On an average chore …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:07 PM
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The reason I posted these comments was that she articulated feminist thought process well...which is not something I've seen very often. To casually justify blatant discrimination and try to rationalize it this way is interesting to see. Also makes this subreddit look bad? Most subreddits are censorship hellholes, compared to them this is much better...we would really need to f things up to be worse than those.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 07:49 PM
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1) Most husbands are not asking wives to give up such careers, wives do it on their own and the difference in housework is no longer as much, because of tech it's not as difficult as before either...this is not 19th century and you are not a 19th century housewife with no tech. And solution is to not have such laws to begin with or to calculate properly. The only reason wife getting something is because it would be too cruel otherwise and people feel sorry, not because husband owes you. Just lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:40 PM
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1) The right thing is for business to hire somebody they think will bring most benefit to their business whether it be man or woman. 2) Funny you mention competition, yet women seem to be always depending on such helping push from the government...it's like if it was a race and you were put 10 steps ahead of me because you were slower...and the excuse was fairness. Nobody argues against some poor kid or disabled person to get some advantages. The issue is that I do not recognize you as such, I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:27 PM
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"Well now you're just straight off the deep end. Have a lovely, masculine, self-pitying day." I do not know where you are from, maybe money grows on trees there or something...but not here. When I was kid there was gang of robbers going around robbing people in my city. And they would use hot iron torture them, the interesting fact is that some of those people would withstand the torture or at least they would last for while...we did not have proper banks back then and most saved money in cash. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:13 PM
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Yeah, like if she's sooo in love with him to go that far, maybe she at least won't take half his shit or cheat...hopefully. And his previous girlfriend was cheater so that was dodged bullet.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 10:56 AM
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First, I never connected video games to violence. You on the other hand compared that to porn affecting our sexual lives based on...nothing really. Second, I never said porn was the sole issue, you are putting words I never said in my mouth. Third, porn seems to have major affect on our sexual lives according to this data and according to some real-life experiences. You glossing over that is the issue. Fourth, whatever porn is defined be it comics, stories, images, or videos...what matters is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:06 AM
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First, you assume all those women wanted careers. I know many who did not even when husband actually preferred they worked or did not mind her working at all. Many people do not even want to work if possible, hell I don't want to work. Second, I do not know what career she would choose, how much money she would have earned and also she is not just doing it for me, she is doing it half the job is hers to do anyway. Third you are overexaggerating household chores. Again, all of us(I hope) lived in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:56 AM
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It does not take a genius to understand that this was brought up just to provide comparison and that maybe would help understand the situation men are in better. But I guess for self-centered activists like you who can not come up with actual rationale response "calm down" is the best answer you could provide.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 04:18 AM
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Should we legalize domestic abuse as well? And when woman complains I will answer: marriage is partnership and trust and if you are afraid of that risk maybe you should not get married. I wonder if that was legal how emotional women would be when I gave them such a bs answer.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 03:03 AM
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Should we legalize domestic abuse as well? And when woman complains I will answer: marriage is partnership and trust and if you are afraid of that risk maybe you should not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:02 AM
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Well thought out? She literally said that women exclusively should get benefits if they wish to be represented whatever profession they want more. Literally justified benefits for women just because they were women. And it's a "right thing to do" because she said so? If woman want to be equal, independent and they do claim so, maybe they stop demanding crutches and help and depend on their own selves. Her position is literally we can not be equally good/successful at some jobs/careers if we do n…
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:55 AM
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Nobody said "it's all about man's money". Does it mean money is not important? Are you a monk now who let go desire of worldly possessions you worked hard for? It's not about marriage not being about just man's money, it's about huge risk men are under after marriage and huge power government just gives woman over the man's finances. How about actually address the obvious issue instead do saying bs like "money is not important" and "if you whine about money you are probably poor anyway".
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:48 AM
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This is the position many feminists have and I did not post this to prove that, she just articulated it well and that's why I posted it. You questioning what is wrong with that position also further proves I'm right. I replied her with this, not gonna retype. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yf6jk8/comment/iukhb3t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yf6jk8/comment/iukf5qy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/MensRights01/11/22 01:37 AM
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No, it depends on how many likes post has and this reply comment down the line so you would have to really look at replies to find it. The reason I was interested in these comments specifically was that I thought they showed their thought process very clearly. This is not my argument to prove that most feminists agree with that position, that is something I already know and do not need confirmation for that.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 01:33 AM
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Well...still better than women who will take half your shit tbh...that's how low our standards are at this point.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 01:01 AM
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First, you arbitrarily define what is "the right thing". Second, you basically saying it's ok to give one social group huge benefits over another social group because they want to be represented in certain areas if they can't do it on their own as often..."coincidentally" high paying, high influential, high up on power level areas of the job market. Third, you describe how great it is for women...obviously, it is you funding them to get a nice job, it would be great for any group. But you comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:41 AM
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I'll lose half my stuff' if we divorce, then literally dude, do NOT get married because you're not committed enough, and don't truly want a partnership." First, That's part of the reason why many men do not get married anymore. Second, easy for you to basically say "who cares if you lose half your shit and then pay even more monthly"...like are you even reading what you wrote? How about we not have such shit laws, to begin with. And the ones who usually initiate divorce are women, not men so whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:24 AM
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Banned? Do you work for the porn industry or something? If you think TV, internet, porn and many other things have no influence over people you are a ****** You can use your imagination to guess what ****** you censorship-loving ******.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:11 AM
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Do you work for the porn industry or something? Dude, I put links for a reason. You are on the opposite end of video games cause of school shootings...you are at the point where TV, the internet, porn, and so on have no effect on us whatsoever...if you believe that I do not think there much to talk about because that is complete bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:07 AM
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They go together just fine. Your argument basically boils down to the that we should not generalize at all...which is simply nonsense. You can obviously look at any such movement, or group and understand their general views based on the values they share and support and generalize based on that. Also, it's the label they call themselves and that's why such group names exist...with your logic no group names should exist at all because they are too generalizing and take away from individual differ…
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:04 AM
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Too bad they feminists.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:53 PM
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What's their personality and values?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 09:32 PM
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Language exists so that we can communicate properly and labels and names exist to define things easier and more precisely.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 09:31 PM
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The main reason why men's rights activists clash with feminists is that they are going against men's rights activists themselves, they support laws that are obviously unfair and harmful to us, they do not call out their misandrist friends.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:49 PM
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I said feminist...not just someone who thinks that women should be able to vote and so on.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:48 PM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:45 PM
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Once legalized, it won't cost as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:40 PM
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Women are wonderful effect might also be a reason why it developed that way, as well as their horrible interpretation of history.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:28 PM
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They only care about inequality when it suits them. And their interpretation of statistics is horrible.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:23 PM
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Interesting point, thank you.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:21 PM
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It does...this was pretty common knowledge...now some changed tune and say it increases testosterone temporarily...you will masturbate too much testosterone will go down, you will need to rest for some time and it will go back up...but if you masturbate every day it obviously won't go back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:21 PM
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Just legalize prostitution...even that is is healthier than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:16 PM
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True, I only found out about the issues because I dug deep and I do not like to be agreeable.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:54 PM
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I disagree. I also think that porn gets in a way of normal sexual attraction and many things mentioned in these links show that...seen similar shit in real life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:52 PM
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I don't mind them coming here too...unlike many feminists I welcome debates.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:42 PM
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Nonsense, there are some addictions that are more damaging than others, more addictive than others, and people have access to porn since way too early age, before they even have actual sex...with your logic, we would have to legalize most drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:40 PM
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I disagree. I think trying to make men like women and women like men is a major issue. Accepting that we are different is ok. That does not mean we should not express emotions but it's ok if we do not do it as often as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:33 PM
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Assange called Sweden Saudi Arabia of feminism.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:18 PM
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You talk like how racism would talk...also a lot fo women's negative actions are not criminalized and many crimes are just being treated lightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:09 PM
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Nonsense, women and men were waay "uglier" in certain points of our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:59 PM
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Male feminist probably :D
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:57 PM
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Nonsense, you are oversimplifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:56 PM
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I think prostitution is ok if both parties are willing and at least it's real sex. South Korea has porn banned right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:56 PM
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Very selective quoting. I personally view porn as huge problem and people are just being blind to it. Maybe if you had sex first or if you did not see a lot of porn before having sex it's ok but being addicted to it before you even get to experience sex brings obvious negative IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:52 PM
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I've also heard high T can help us regulate our emotions more too, make us less sensitive. Which is positive for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:48 PM
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"I want to see more women scientists and engineers on TV." And I do not care...I never cared about their sex when I watched TV. You seem to want equity rather than equality. I would prefer if the best people for the job did the job and that's it. There might be some specific non-physcal jobs out there where sex might matter but usually, it's irrelevant to me.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:46 PM
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I remember a Swedish guy saying in some video that in some very feminist countries like Sweden for example masculine men are not viewed positively at all.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:43 PM
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It's addictive also because kids have access. And some get addicted to porn specifically before they even have sex and if they get hooked on porn and not sex they might have trouble when it comes to sex. That's why it's the issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:41 PM
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Thx
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:36 AM
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I am not sure. I wonder how relationships would be today if men and women did not have porn and men had higher testosterone...I think it would be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:34 AM
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I disagree about porn. To me it's obvious it's addictive and such addiction can cause problems. Still, porn industry brings in a lot of money so I do not see that stopping for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:32 AM
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These show that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:31 AM
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Reminded me the story of Hitchens...his mother killed herself and he became a bit of a simp because of it. Sad story.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:26 AM
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That's a good point, I had not thought of that aspect.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:09 AM
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Was the red hared crazy feminist in the video?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 11:28 PM
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Add to that some natural inclinations many of us have to care more about women.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:47 PM
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So for your personal reasons, maybe even trauma from bullying. How are exactly feminists fighting for your rights? Also, what about the anti-male issues I mentioned?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:18 PM
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I disagree. Personally, if somebody or some movement or social group treats me as an enemy or is my enemy, obviously I would not be kind to them. Nothing crazy, maybe fire them or not hire them if possible or do something else that you can do legally.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 09:17 PM
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Yep...as for society...why would I be loyal to a society that is trying to fk me over. Focus on ourselves and after obtaining some power focus on helping others too. If you manage to take down and ruin some feminist's lives and similar bunch along the way(legally) that will be great as well.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:54 PM
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Damn...they really are like a cult.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:52 PM
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Post it on r/rants. I'm banned there so I can't.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:47 PM
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That is true...modern feminists especially since the second wave took in a lot of commies, even maoists and lefties in general. In my country when communists came in there was this situation: Two activists called the whole village into the theatre they had and to break traditional "stereotypes" about sex they had sex in front of them. In the end, commies went from supposedly more open to more restrictive and forceful...so with us or against us mentality comes from there.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:41 PM
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That's why they are making marriage into what is today and making it more unpopular. So much for democracy...this is all pushed from top to down by minority on majority.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:29 PM
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"parents who try to alienate their child from the other parent subtly or overtly convey a three-part message to the child: I am the only parent who loves you and you need me to feel good about yourself; the other parent is dangerous and unavailable; and pursuing a relationship with the other parent jeopardizes your relationship with me. Alienating parents are themselves emotionally fragile, often enmeshed with the child, with a “sense of entitlement, needing control, knowing only how to take” ​ …
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:18 PM
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Workplace equity? First, fuk equity(I support equality). Second, I doubt feminists want women at blue-collar jobs...jobs they bich about are usually high-paying jobs and even then it's very obvious there is no discrimination towards women there...at least not the amount that matter statistically.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 07:35 PM
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My country's culture is different. Also, she worked and did housework while my father was lazy in that regard. I did not need RP since I already knew a lot of the things they preach already. I was more of a pro-women/feminist and what I discovered was feminism in the west and some of their actions turned me into a supporter of men's rights. BTW I was physically abused by both parents, especially my father, so there is that too. Still care about my mother...and maybe for father too. It is what it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:39 PM
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The thing about RP is that a lot of the things they say is something we knew. For generations, father-to-son men would teach what to avoid when it comes to women and what to seek for serious relationships. It just seems some of that got lost in the west and only "provide an protect" part remained. No, you must have standards if you want a woman who is loyal to you, makes you happy, and won't pull paternity fraud, fuk you over in divorce, take your kids or some shit...such a woman is worthy to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:35 PM
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Good, considering how many of those women are cheaters, especially in England, like half such DNA tests show that the husband/boyfriend is not the father and how f-ed up divorce laws are, they will avoid a lot of trouble if they do not marry women from the west. Also, men should just stop caring about feminists' opinions in general...just view them as enemies, view many western women as brainwashed by said enemies, and move on. As for just sex, if you earn some money there will always be some ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 04:28 PM
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So if I print some freaking dictionary and write that the definition of my name is sex-god does that mean I am a sex-god?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 04:11 PM
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"Get our rights back" What? Do you think having rights is some kind of axiom and objective reality that just exists in nature? It's a social construct, we as humans have rights because we invented them...and the ones who invited them are usually men. First, in the past Men did really not give a fuk if you or women, in general, were grateful for the benefits men brought to humanity as a whole. The only reason we are talking about the subject right now is that some feminazi morons with trash-level…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 04:03 PM
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If we talked for 2-3 comments, I tell you an argument, you have no answer and you run from debate, and just stop talking I call it a win.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 03:44 PM
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I can't post there..banned there, banned on r/feminism, banned on r/rants...
/r/MensRights29/10/22 02:24 PM
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LMAO Ok...that was funny. The point is not which one is the worse, point is that your logic is flawed. You are just making weird connections. In fact, the way you do is kinda similar to racist people's logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:39 PM
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Hundreds of times.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 12:37 PM
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Outside of celebrities, I've rarely heard of men going to court for that. And in many countries, you can't do anything about such actions, or punishment might be so light it's not worth it. I will agree that when it comes to physical violence, men are more prone to that.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 12:36 PM
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1) What you said has nothing to do with men's rights. 2) There are actual videos women make saying all men should die, men are horrible and this and that. 3) There are actually legal issues today of law systems discriminating against men. 4) Just like before it was not just women supporting and "fighting" for women's rights. Many men supported and funded that, which conveniently is forgotten. Just like today in Iran, it's mostly men dying for women's rights but later that will be glossed over la…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 12:32 PM
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You want to talk about history? I would not try that. Also, back then just because law said something it does not mean that's how people lived, it was not a modern era. As for history in general, unlike you I calculate it since birth of civilization or maybe even further back when men were fighting giant beasts and dying for the tribes and families.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:25 PM
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Actually I've almost never lost an argument with feminists.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:22 PM
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Actually I've almost never lost an argument with feminists. I have no idea how you managed to lose that argument. Maybe I'm just good at talking and debates. To me the Men's rights issues are so obviously right that it's difficult to even see how theoretically I would lose an argument.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:22 PM
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Maybe some Islamic countries?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:23 PM
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Posted this on r/rants and ranted...got perma-banned.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:51 PM
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Guys should pay for the first date if they ask you out. Even most men's rights activists can agree with that IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:46 PM
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Nothing much...but good food would be nice.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:35 PM
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WTF does that have to do with MGTOW. It would be like me counting gold-diggers and saying all feminists are gold-diggers because they are females.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:29 PM
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"assaulting or murdering" Had to shove that there and blame some criminal's actions on MGTOW right? To make it seem much worse. If someone wants to sell their body that's their business and I disagree on that with MGTOW if they do not think so. I would probably ban porn though...fks up expectations of both sexes too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:17 PM
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Main sources of issues are: 1) Positive bias towards women...and women themselves being even more biased on that front. 2) Legal issues, law system being biased against men. 3) Porn...gives some men and women unrealistic expectations and health issues which is especially harmful for men. 4) Education system obviously not doing its job, pushing more hate towards men and positive bias for women.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:11 PM
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Posted this on r/rants as well.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:01 PM
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Maybe it is different with little kids, it's probably more difficult more kids you have...I'll give you that. I still don't think someone should lose half his everything because husband also invests and usually financially they invest more in family. I will agree that some compensation still should be paid to wife but it must be calculated in a way that it does not take advantage of husband either. Today I do not think it is that way. Especially with no fault divorce...Imagine you working full t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:50 PM
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If someone wants equality for both sexes I am all up for it. But IMO that would mean decline of feminist movement...and you are talking about movement that has tens or maybe hundreds of billions of funding worldwide, has a lot of people in governments of many countries and UN, has lots of NGOS and private organizations behind them in many countries...so not gonna happen for a while. Also, when such money and influence are involved there a re probably a lot of people with ulterior motives who won…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:39 PM
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I have lived alone and done house-chores and I have seen my mom do it while taking care of us and she cooks at home, and I calculate time it takes...and it's not a lot. As for birth control...remind me why we started this argument. I think when it comes to pregnancy men and women are 50-50% responsible, it just takes two to make kids and the same for being responsible for the kid...unless you disagree with that we are arguing pointlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:21 PM
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You are wrong first: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=who+intiates+most+divorces Second, your assumption that women do not cheat as much or that they only leave "to be happy" and not for another D is...nice but I highly doubt that. Third, most of the times those who provide for the family are still men. As for "unpaid labor"...do you compensate men for all the money, energy, time, emotions he invested in family? Maybe he's putting 50-80% of his salary in his family. Issue is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:15 PM
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Now you are like "they don't know better". With you logic all of us should do some hardcore drugs too...maybe it's even better than sex. Shorter life but maybe will be happier. On more serious note, people can make choices and choose whatever path they want, you can do actions that increase your chances to be happy in monogamous relationship or actions that will give you pleasure but will lower chances of managing that. The same goes for drugs, alcohol, smoking, fighting and so on...some more im…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:08 PM
1

I agree. It might become closer but I will admit it won't be equal. I do not support criminalizing sex work anyway.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:51 PM
1

We are animals and like all animals we have instincts. I would not be surprised if some of our behavioral tendencies were caused by our instincts...and some by social constructs and the culture/environment/people around us.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:48 AM
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I do prefer having something like the first amendment, I think it's one of the examples that the founders actually gave a fuk about people and their future unlike most today but exceptions exist even for that. As for other countries where freedom of speech is much less respected and defended anyway...obviously, I care less since freedom of speech is already restricted.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:46 AM
3

That's a very good point.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:38 AM
1

Kids' rights matter more...unless it's women's rights.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:36 AM
1

I'm not a pessimist but I would agree that feminists do have a lot of power...for now.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:35 AM
0

Hey, a woman might mean trans too and when I say female it just means sex, not gender. That's the difference. Maybe my English is wrong?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:34 AM
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Most of your studies were teens at 15+. They were discussing mostly sexual experiences, not sexual urges. As for 5-6 year old Dutch study I wish it clarified more about what those behaviors were like exactly. Also, why did you choose that quote instead of this: Adult-like sexual behavior' was observed but to a much lesser extent (7 and 8% respectively). Again, children might not even know it's about sex...that part of the body just felt good. Rather than developed countries, it would be more int…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:31 AM
0

Actually, most of foreign guys are often pretty masculine and macho...and western ones seem more caring in comparison. And more money does not hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:08 AM
1

Yawn...salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:07 AM
0

I do know well...my mother worked and did probably more housework than many housewives...it's work but not a difficult or long one. a) What picked the wrong woman? You can say that about abusive husbands too lol. Wives chose the wrong man, does that sound good? The point is legally men have a higher chance of getting f-ed over. b) Dunno what you mean. There are like dozen or so different ways of birth control for women and vasectomy is not so easily reversible and causes issues. https://www.goog…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:30 AM
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I will concede on that front. Men do tend to do less even when both work. Does not change the fact that it's a legal trap for men. You could stop working, not even do all the house chores...divorce him and get half his shit (maybe more, maybe less). Hell, you could cheat and get half his shit...and since usually men are the ones doing better financially it will f them over more often. Maybe in your specific case both work and earn similar amounts of money but that is not the case for some, in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:22 AM
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There were also studies that virgin women were happy too when it comes to marriage. Now you can say it's just religion making them happy or an angel is whispering in their ear but that's just desperate argument tbh. "But for men to be able to 'roam' but want an unsoiled woman" That works much better than vice versa, it is what it is. Ideally yes, both being virgins is best for marriage, can't argue with that. Still, having 4-5 female partners or so might not be too bad for men since many women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:17 AM
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Lacking? Listen, one thing I agree with feminists is that men are usually doing better financially...so if men are doing better financially who is going to be harmed by 50/50 divorce? And there sure as hell are not as many househusbands as housewives. Basic level logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:12 AM
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Yes, they are happy. When they asked about it in a study most were happily married. IMO it's probably the same for male virgins as well tbh...when you have not tasted variety you are tempted less and marriage is more satisfying I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:09 AM
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Well, if you plan a crime verbally that's a crime...verbally blaming me for a crime even if do not go to court should be a crime as well. As for outside of US where there is no 1st and they have hate-speech laws already you can basically ban whatever you want IMO if you have enough power in the government(not a good thing).
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:49 AM
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Women have much more birth control options. As for marriage, it's pretty obvious men are fk-ed over most of the time so I would also hope for those men you people won't get married. And housework is not even a big deal...stop acting like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:38 AM
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You disagree but that does not mean much...facts are facts. But I guess feelings matter more for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:36 AM
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That argument might work on someone else who does not know what he's talking about but not me. First, half the chores are hers to do anyway. Second, unless you have 3+ kids those chores are nothing compared to an actual job. Third, if you are a housewife if your husband works 40+ hours per week and brings money the least you can do is do some house chores. Stop trying to make housework a bigger deal than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:35 AM
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Yep, yep...unfortunate truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:33 AM
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And? Do you think girls of that age have as much sexual desire as boys? No. Why is it that when I talk to people like you it's like talking to an alien who does not have any real-life experience...ok since you guys are so obsessed with studies and your beloved soft-science instead of real-life experience I will post some study: In a sample of Spanish boys and girls, about 6% of 9–10 year old boysreported sexual fantasies, increasing to 66% among 13–14 year olds.Among girls, 15% of 13–14 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:20 AM
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People who have the highest chance to not divorce and actually have a marriage that lasts till the end...it is virgins. It's just how the data is. Your argument actually has nothing to do with that, you are simply saying most successful marriages are people who are in their 20s and 30s graduates...which has nothing to do with my argument and does not debunk it in any way even if most of them are not virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:13 AM
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Nowhere close to that...unless they are graped(that can fk them up) or have some super high sex-drive compared to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:07 AM
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Yes, them and some parasites who depend on alimony and child support instead of earning their own money. (Not all are like that but many are and you know it)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:01 AM
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Their ideas and arguments supporting them are fragile and they can't handle it.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:59 AM
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On average, virgin marriages do last much more often unlike the others so you can hate the fact but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:58 AM
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Sex is like a drug for many, the more you do more addicted you are...it is what it is. Most men have some urges from 10-12 years of age so we learn to control our urges since early age. I don't think it's the same for women...maybe that's why when women with lots of bodies get married marriage does not work out as often since she can not control her urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:42 AM
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Nah, most are in happy marriages and they say it so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:28 AM
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Good, today it's a legal trap for guys anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:19 AM
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When virgins marry their marriage has a much higher chance of lasting...but you can continue living in delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:18 AM
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Considering virgin marriages actually work out more often than any others your statement is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:17 AM
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Yeah...well, by 2030 most of the 25-45 women in the west won't be married. Guys will probably go for some Asian country's chicks. Plus modern marriage in the west is a legal trap for guys anyway so maybe it's better if guys don't marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:16 AM
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Fk animals and trees...I like rocks and stones...I hate living beings.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 12:11 AM
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Why?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:56 PM
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Who cares what some prudish or man-hating feminists think? I do not even care what women in general think. I can look wherever I want.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:46 PM
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RIP
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:37 PM
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Dude, "promiscuous men " usually know how to choose better women and they get women for long-term relationships just fine. That is just not an issue. Promiscuity with men is just not an issue...ever(unless he has an addiction to sex or something). The issue is mostly with women on that front. Whether you call it "pseudo-science" because we can't 100% prove it or not, most men do not want women who are like that given the choice...while most women do not care. That's the reality. You want to seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:32 PM
1

"hierarchy of bad is irrelevant to me as it should be." No, it should not be. At least if feminists ask the question of why it was the way it was, you should have a rational answer. And "cave-bro" or whatever you call science is also a good argument. And women do prefer experienced men, maybe it's because those men know how to woo women better but it is what it is. Maybe if he had 100+ women it would be too much but some experience is preferable to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:50 PM
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The latter way is the way that was implied. Obviously being ok with rape, theft, and murder sure as hell would not be the way to solve it. If we could find some lesser crimes that maybe should not be punished like marihuana smoking or selling for example that would be good.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:45 PM
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We do not post in other places because feminists love censorship and we get banned pretty quickly. Unlike you, we do not run away from debates and we are not afraid to question our views. Even if you argued with us in comments and praised feminism to the sky you would not get banned (as long as you stay on topic and di not just throw insults). But would the same be true for me in the feminism subreddit? I doubt that.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:40 PM
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I can say whatever I want. You can argue and bring out facts about why I'm wrong if you want to prove me wrong and this sure as hell is not that. Attempts of "mockery" and "I don't care" is a way little kids argue. My logic is simple: 1) Women usually prefer experienced men. Men usually prefer inexperienced or virgin women. So that's one of the major reasons why male promiscuity is ok. 2) Women cheating can lead to paternity fraud and men cheating does not lead to that. That's why women cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:34 PM
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Neither do I...did anyone write in comments otherwise or was that your idea?
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:17 PM
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Yes, emotional abuse is overlooked too often.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 09:33 PM
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I'm not hostile though. Don't be this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naleynXS7yo Fun videos aside, you are right, while it might not matter to me it might matter to some others here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 08:56 PM
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And? I am more of a conservative... that does not change the fact that I probably agree with most of the issues and ideas here. I just focus on men's rights parts and that's that...does not mean I have to agree with every other opinion you might have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 08:23 PM
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First, you must prove they are hypocrites when it comes to that topic. It's not an axiom in itself that does not need any proof. Second, if you do not think women having a high body count is much worse you are very naive. I even explained why(part of the reason, there is even more) and you could not even provide any counter-arguments to my own arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:16 PM
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For guys it's a badge of honor...why? It's because women do prefer men who know what they are doing and who have some experience. It also shows other women want him and that's also a plus. As for women having more bodies...the only thing it tells me is that she might cheat on me easier since she views sex more casually and I might end up as a victim of cheating and paternity fraud(something women do not have to worry about).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:00 PM
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"men acting like men" There are a lot of things men do and unfortunately one of them being not giving that much shit about other men and caring more about women...which today can be detrimental. As for men being manlier whatever that might mean, if it means what it is IMO, yes. The issues we have are family courts, divorce laws and tbh laws in general benefiting women more. The other issues are low testosterone and tbh who knows what else that affects us physically and mentally. After that addre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:05 PM
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I do not view that as something positive though. Generally be RP or MGTOW or any other men's rights movement the issues is that feminists have too much influence and movement is suppressed. Look at what they did to MGTOW on Reddit. Look at what they did to Andrew Tate if we are talking about RP. Is it good? Of course not. In the end what we might end up with in "men rights movement" which is just a puppet of feminist movement or mirrors its views. Considering the influence of feminism all over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:04 PM
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The amount of fukery happening in family courts and how they do their best to siphon money out of men for decades is all the proof we need to treat them as enemies.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 02:30 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. Part of the reason might be censorship. We can only assume and tbh I do not care that much, mostly I care about men's issues, be it RP, or whatever other movements all I care is ideas and results. I did not even know they had a website.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:56 AM
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don’t just act like one girl is -the one/ when you haven’t even gotten exclusive yet. If they say that...it's already better than more old-school views we have here. I do not but most do. Probably adopted from Russia in the last 100 or so years during communism, before that we were more religious(+super respectful towards women) so monogamy for both sexes. Now, basically "committed" men can have sex with other women as long as it's just sex and it's not a long term relationship...and most women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:21 AM
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Most likely that's the case, that usually happens with such movements to some degree, so it's something expected and I don't care(I'm not paying anybody). What I care about is ideas, as for people unless crossed some super-horrible lines or do something super-amazing I do not care about them. The reason I brought up RP was that I watched some videos some people mentioning some of these advices and in comment it was talked like evil red-pill, or incels or whatever invented it. BS, these were pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:43 PM
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I just said that some advices RP gives are not new and were around for a looong time. That does not mean there was similar "crisis" since back then, at least I did not claim that. These advices are just result of generations of men observing and understanding women and coming to such conclusions, then father taught the son, the son to his own son and so on. I just thought since I mentioned RP not inventing them, might as well write them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:32 PM
1

What goal posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:37 PM
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It's because a lot of active dating was done by young men and it's usually young men who were not yet married. A lot of older men and women were already married or knew what was happening from experience and so they did not need many advice. Some of these advice: Body count matters - since forever, personality matters more than looks for serious relationship - since forever, looks do matter to a level so she must be above at least average or average (for you) - since forever, long-term looks mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:17 PM
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Many of my father's generation just browse, watch news/videos and rarely write something. Maybe their views are similar to MGTOW but they never had an idea to create similar movement, though there were some men's rights movements which criticized feminists or women decades before. I will also add that a lot of "red pill" views are nothing new, they existed since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:38 PM
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Did you live in USSR? Did you live in Nazi Germany? While I do not have data about Nazi Germany I do know that before war it was considered one of the best places to live. During war and holocaust of course you would have much more unhappy people,. As for USSR, there were plenty of satisfied happy people there as well, probably much less compared to Germany though. Plenty of people did believe in communism and some benefited from it. Just like in current China, most likely they have plenty of ha…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 08:35 PM
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This makes sense. TBH I had similar doubt as well. Maybe today it got worse but ever since 80s situation has been changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:35 PM
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WTF are you talking about. First many of such men would get banned. Like MGTOW monk for example. And there are plenty of men in 40s and 50s who are divorced or bitter towards women for understandable reasons. And no, majority of the men of that generation do not post shit online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:34 PM
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Prostitution should be legal. No rational reason to ban it. If woman willingly wants to sell her body that's her choice, and we already have porn anyway. Also we would have much much less sexually frustrated men. As women opinion on such men...who cares? I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:24 PM
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Feminists talk about that because they want to put their nose in everything. WTF does feminism have to do with racism? Nothing. It's just they wanna put their nose there for more influence. I will agree that in general you should not judge whole group. But we must make make distinction between seeing patterns and racism. Like if I know you are from Saudi Arabia I will assume you are Muslim if you do not say otherwise.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 07:18 PM
1

Good job!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 06:32 PM
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I would add that I bet most of those billionaires do not care much about men's issues and care more about women's issues. What matters is how many feminists vs how many men's rights activists are at the top. What also matters is amount of funding men's right issues and organizations get vs feminist organizations' funding. I bet they do not want to talk about that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 06:30 PM
1

If you are working for the state then that does make sense.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:24 PM
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"scholars of gender studies" LMAO
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:21 PM
1

Not at 12, I only said we get urges at that time(from my experience) and nothing more, 12 is too early...but at 14 I knew plenty of boys when I was a kid who lost virginity with older woman...actually, not that shocking of a deal, it was pretty normal. And no they were not "scarred for life" for banging a woman. Things that actually scar you for life are usually things you give a shit about and consider as "horrible" and "bad"(there are exceptions, some things are inherently just that bad for us…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:27 PM
2

Wait, that's being paid by the government? At this rate, women can just have a baby and feminists will demand to pay them just for that. Whatever...IMO men should get at least 40%(I'm not even asking for 50%) of the social assistance especially since they are people who pay most of the taxes.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:18 PM
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First, happiness calculation is a bit of bs, and do not take it seriously to begin with. But to be fair I only take few of the "sciences" other than hard science seriously. Second they have a strong economy and they are rich countries unlike most other countries, they do not have a lot of issues others have and this has little to do with feminism. European countries have been at the forefront of the world in that aspect for several centuries at least. Third, lower crime, more stability and highe…
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:11 PM
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And they say they still need to do more. Australia, New Zealand(maybe) and Israel are pretty bad too from what I've heard. Right now they are pushing more and more to change South Korea which was doing just fine before.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:04 PM
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True. Also, large portion(80% I think) of social assistance money goes to women while majority of taxes are paid by men.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 11:01 PM
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It was a sweet video too...wtf is wrong with some people.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 07:06 PM
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DNA tests for both parents might fix that mostly. Still, choice should be with her, at least such people should get very generous compensation from the party who was responsible for this and from the government...but I do not see that happening with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 12:43 PM
1

Very interesting. I think in pursuit of "freedom" feminism forgot that we are not just animals and there is a reason why we restrain ourselves. While men had more influence and power in the past compared to women, we also put shackles of responsibility and morality on ourselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 12:38 PM
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As much as I agree that kid in this case is innocent and should not suffer...the reason that is happening is the mother, not the father. Also, even kid's rights have limits, government should not force people to take care of kids that are not related to them...like I'm not responsible for my neighbor's kid for example for exact same reason even if kid sees me as father figure, sorry but it is not my responsibility and I have my own life to live.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 12:34 PM
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I agree 100% and that's the exact reason what made me write this post. When I read some of those comments...to say it mildly, they were very unfair and demanding towards the father.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/22 11:34 PM
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I agree and when you search what affects cheating can have on a person and suicides it can cause...it boggles my mind there are no legal consequences for it. Even when they cheat on someone in the army...the person country should stand behind...it's insane.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:32 PM
2

I will post about it.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:23 PM
5

We end ourselves more because it's just more difficult being men in general, not just loneliness, but those who do not kill themselves and are alone are already pretty used to that.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:19 PM
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Kids come first when it suits women's issues...when it comes to abortion suddenly it's no longer the case.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 11:17 PM
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In general since usually most taxes come from men and most social assistance goes to women I have negative opinion of such programs. At least, if we funded much more male-specific social programs too which help men specifically and achieved more equity when it comes social assistance it would feel more fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/22 11:12 PM
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The fact that cheating especially on soldiers who fight for country is not a crime is insane to me. No fault divorce makes it even worse.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:06 PM
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BTW she was the one who came up with the idea of modern women's shelters and built the first one. She was abused by both her mother and father so when she asked women in the shelter about their lives with their husbands...turned out majority if not all of women there were abusive as well. She started to talk about men's issues and wanted to build shelter for men as well, but same men who funded feminists no longer gave her money and feminists threatened her and kicked her out of the shelter she …
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:48 PM
2

IMO morally you can do whatever you wish, and you should get no judgment. What matters is what you want and how you personally feel about him, and make your decision based on that. As for society...tbh I'm the type who does not really care what others think of me much, I care what I think about myself(and I try to be rational, self-critical) and so I can't give you much advice on that front.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:43 PM
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I agree. Also, IMO if you create life you are responsible for that life and that's that...not responsible for kid whose creation you have not been part of. If some man decides to do it, he's a great person and I hope he will see nothing but happiness, but obviously it should not be mandatory.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:38 PM
1

I would agree that men handle loneliness better...I mean it was pretty clear to me since young I have to mostly depend on myself when I grow up, it is just how the world is.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:35 PM
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" women can live on their own and would happy live without unwanted men." Until later in life. If they have kids it's more ok but if they don't and they are alone in their 40s or maybe even early 30s...they are not that happy. Most women I've met like that always seemed a bit bitter.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 05:26 PM
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In the past values were waaay different. my country is very very old. At one point in history there was situation in my country when men were basically drifting away from values of my homeland, no longer cared as much about it, their national/local identity was disappearing and women stepped up and changed that, king's mother even sacrificed herself and died for that(won't go into more details)...for now, in my country women are decent, at least compared to the west, but far from what was in the…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:40 PM
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And from other men too, not just from women...some people are truly brainwashed.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:13 PM
10

That reminds me of something...I could not find information later because later because censorship and bias but at one point Australia had some men's rights group who turned out to be a group of men funded by feminists who spent all the money they got from donations on women's and feminist issues...there are some snakes among men who care more about women's rights than our own, even though feminists have much more powerful and well-funded organizations behind them.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:09 PM
1

Very true.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:37 PM
1

Hopefully if Elon gets Twitter something will be fixed.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:06 PM
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How the hell are there men left in the west who do not view these women as misandrists they are?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:02 PM
1

Should I have put comma? My bad. Fixed it: You are deluded, man. It's feminists and people like you who want boys who don't fuk until they are 18 or much older. Your degenerate idea that us men who get urges to bang chicks since fukin early teens at least should not fuk till adulthood if the woman we can fuk is an adult...if boys are virgins, have urges, if they get a chance even if that woman is older and if she looks decent for them, bang her. Just protect yourself so that she does not get pre…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 06:59 PM
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If you think boys banging women is harmful to them you are deluded man. And stop talking and arguing like woman.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:25 PM
1

I can't, too much work at my job this month.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:23 PM
1

"research topic far beyond our understanding" It's not hard science. And I do not view any soft science far removed from hard science as science. Hard science and some soft sciences very closely related to it are sciences...as for the rest, they do not deserve the name science. Do not talk about something unscientific like it's something super complicated I can not even fathom.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:22 PM
1

You are a brave person. I think OP meant it to be a jab on western feminists but unfortunately attacked women of Iran who truly have to fight for their rights and often die for it. As for actions of men like you, they are praiseworthy and I hope they won't be forgotten. The Issue is that there are different circumstances in the west, where a lot of modern feminists forgot that in the past before or during early 20th century majority of people who supported them were men and often blame all men f…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:16 PM
1

"I’m sure a study does exist" You are missing the point. What if it does not? Does it mean it's false? "Toxic masculinity" I do not care about that term at all tbh. And do not take it seriously. Maybe I would take it seriously if we had "toxic femininity" and society cared about that as well.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:04 PM
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If most of the men at young age would prefer sleeping around then that is objectively what men want and equality has little to do with it, we should make choices based on what we want not based on what women want. And if women make different choice on that subject that's their business and I do not really care.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 07:00 PM
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Well it is true that women do get more trust...partly because of us I think...to protect and support is often ingrained too deeply in many men, which is a good quality but not with some misandrists around.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:54 PM
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I remember Erin Pizzey, there were others too I think but I'm not from hat generation so I do not know much.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:50 PM
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You are either horrible at explaining or troll. Whatever it is I'm done talking with you. There are plenty of others I debate who write properly on the subject.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:48 PM
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First of all fk this crt+v issue on this website...like wtf. Also, you were not nice so I won't be one either. "You’ve provided nothing in the way of data that shows men are disproportionately undercut by divorce." Should I just facepalm at this point? One thing feminists are right is that men do have and earn more money on average. It's also true that there are much more housewives than househusbands. So if you divide everything 50/50 who do you think is going to suffer more, men or women? And …
/r/MensRights19/10/22 06:45 PM
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"why women consistently do worse," On average! "all women would have to do it" No all women, on average! Is English not your first language? It's not mine either. Maybe there is some miscommunication here. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you mean that I mean that women in general (not all women) do worse financially, the answer is yes. The main reason being unlike men they make other choices and priorities other things which are not financially profitable. It does not mean their choic…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:54 PM
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Are you mentally ok? I did write that and you responded that not ALL women do this and that like that was somehow my point. Go troll somewhere else.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:42 PM
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Are you an alien? Is this your first conversation with a human being? Do you think when I wrote men are doing better financially compared to women I meant all men are doing better financially compared to women instead of men on average doing better? Is that how you interpreted it? Go learn how to communicate...Nah you must be a troll.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:33 PM
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You literally wrote this as some kind of argument: "I doubt ALL women choose bad careers, work fewer hours, negotiate worse and retire earlier." At this point...you must be trolling.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:19 PM
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So in your opinion, if a study does not exist about something, that means that something does not happen? Ok, You live your life that way. A lot of people in my country did not have electricity when I was a kid...whether there is a study about it or not I do not know and I do not care...but it happened regardless and it is a fact. Thanks, for the advice, as far as positive masculinity goes, whatever interpretation people may have about it, if it does men and social good, and makes them content a…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:16 PM
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"I doubt all women choose bad careers, work fewer hours, negotiate worse and retire earlier." LMAO...on average...it's what happens on average not always and not with all women and men. With your genius logic, since not all men earn more than women wage gap does not exist. I really hope you are a kid or something and that's why you wrote something so silly. My brain hurt from reading that "argument".
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:52 PM
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The wage gap existing because a woman is discriminated against is bs. The wage gap existing because men choose better careers, and work more hours, because they negotiate salaries better and retire later is real(plus some other non-discriminatory reasons). The issue with feminists screaming wage gap is that they always blame or assume some kind of discrimination...or say it in way that people assume so. Also, after 70/100 wage gap lie...I would put a lot of those people who bullshitted people ab…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:25 PM
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First, My argument was not just one video of that but learning that it was not some single separate incident but a normal occurrence. When Men's rights activists gathered in many western countries feminists protested and tried to disrupt it...it was just the norm at that point. Second, there are no statistics for everything so you have to make a judgment based on your experiences like many humans did before they even knew statistics existed. Life is not a hard science and you must assume and jud…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:17 PM
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First I did not say tolerance in general is harmful. I said too much of it is an issue. I just believe feminists do seek to harm men or at least do not care if their goals are achieved at the expense of men. And tolerating that is nonsense. Second, men had waaay more power than women have now and they gave a lot of those up. Because it was a fair thing to do. There war no civil war or WW2 or anything similar where women fought grand battles against men and won and forcibly took their rights, the…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:02 PM
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Because in custody battle men get f-ed, because men are more likely to have more money and property....because even after all the benefits women get men are still doing better financially.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:46 PM
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ngry Actually, made me laugh. Feminism is not even that strong in my country for me to be angry. They are just annoying for me because my country does not have the same history as some other countries feminism originates from and to use the similar/same message you use in almost every country is insulting. If women here said similar things to what feminists say about historic injustices they would be very very ungrateful human beings considering my country's history.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:35 PM
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I'm not moving goalposts. IMO feminists knew this would be the outcome from the beginning, men are main financial provaiders and were even more so in the past so such laws obviously would harm men more. It's a pure calculative move aimed to take resources from men and give it to women. That's the outcome and that's the only thing I care about, all else is just an excuse and bs, words mean nothing. I do not view my experience as anecdotal, you won't have dependable statistics for everything and y…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:54 PM
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It does not go equally both ways. First, family courts favor women to begin with and men are usually the ones who have something to lose. And most men do not want that setup to begin with. I even know people who dated rich women and did not want anything from them after divorce. The majority of men I know would prefer if they just kept what they have and have too much pride to take women's money like that. Maybe that mentality will change in the future but I do not want men to become like many w…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:03 PM
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IMO being too tolerant or open to ideas and people who wish you harm is harmful to your own self. So no, I do think they should be called out when they harm men. And you should make assumptions and judgments even when you do not have all information, life is not hard science. Do I know 100% Covid leaked from the Wuhan lab? No...do I assume so? 100% Sometimes you must assume what most likely to be true.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 05:58 PM
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"A no-fault divorce state with a 50/50 split to ensure both parties are cared for post divorce" First, being "cared for" is nice but not when it comes out of my pocket towards someone I'm no longer related to. Second, when someone cheats they lose any right of being treated nice buy the other party and sure as hell should lose any right to their properties and finances. In fact they should pay compensation to the other party for the money, time, and emotions invested+for emotional damages. Now t…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 05:51 PM
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The kid was a female so that's why...if it was a boy, he was.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:16 PM
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Do you really want me to watch freaking Hasanabi? First, you are not the first one to recommend a video for me...I used to watch such recommendations because I was expecting some kind of great argument but 100% of the time the "arguments" were garbage and I just wasted my time. So if you can articulate his arguments and write them that would be great. Also, in my second comment, I clearly pointed out several issues with feminism versus men's rights, and you did not address them. And I do not nee…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:03 PM
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I am not peddling anything. Around a decade+ ago when I got on the internet one of the first videos that I watched was about feminists disrupting men's rights gatherings and some gatherings where men talked about the high level of suicide among men. And when I looked into it, turns out such attacks from feminists on men's rights activists were pretty normal. When feminists accept that men need their own group to represent them, when obviously anti-male laws will be removed feminists don't protes…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:31 PM
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First, women are not minorities. Second, feminists have been working against men's rights movements and ideas for decades. Third, organizations/movement that has tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars in funding, has influence in UN and in many governments is not some kind of underdog, so stop acting like it is...compared to feminists men's rights groups have much much less funding and influence.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:16 PM
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Perverted fetish my ass. I know plenty of guys who lost their virginity at 14, the fact that you believe that's not normal shows how brainwashed you are from your culture. That was the norm when I was young, and if anything made men more confident and less meek when it came to relationships with women. The ones who were bothered by that were women, usually Karen types. How about instead of copying feminist bs we focus on what's best for us and what suits us.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:12 PM
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There have been some feminists who talked about men's rights very early, maybe earlier than any men in 20th century...but such feminists usually get attacked and smeared.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:09 PM
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Also, they forget that men put money, time, and emotions into the marriage. Imagine working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and 5-6 hours worth of money you get out of that 8 hours go to family, kids, wife...courts act like men do not deserve compensation for the things they did for their family.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:01 PM
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If the child was a guy I do not care. As far as I'm concerned dude got lucky. I disagree that men and women are the same. I do want men to be treated better than now but I do not want us to have the same shit views feminists have.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:06 AM
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If the "child" was a guy: Listen, this is one aspect I disagree with men's rights. Just because females experiencing this is horrible it does not mean it's the same for us. I know plenty of guys who lost their virginity at 14 sometimes with older women...and all it did was make them more confident with women and less nervous. We do not need to act like we are women just for equal rights, we are not the same. Let's be honest 99% chance 17-year-old banged his teacher and had a great sex...but for …
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:03 AM
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I have but she was relatively new and not as deep. I destroyed her in a debate and don't know if she still has the same positive view. Nothing to brag about since winning a debate with feminists is extremely easy and she like many others was very ill-informed. Those who don't hate men are those who are ill-informed or just blind to men's plights because they have a difficult time empathizing with men and our points of view.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 12:56 AM
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Always finding ways to transfer resources from men who work harder to women who work less. And housework is not a lot of work unless you have a lot of kids. The only time I would agree for a woman who did not work to get some compensation is if she was loyal, did 95%+ housework, was not emotionally abusive(in general), and had 3+ kids. Even then there should be some limit on how much she gets. You shouldn't get billions like some get today after divorcing billionaires.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 12:21 AM
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female solipsism Did not know it had a name but I noticed some women do have that tendency, especially feminists.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 11:07 PM
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"but it is lunatic to force people by law to have it. " What's lunatic is you thinking that.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 07:20 PM
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Add no-fault divorce laws to that.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:01 PM
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Well, you did ask and it's not an easy thing to talk about man/woman relationships without lengthy explanation. Whole point of writing on these forums is to write about something of interest and this is an interesting topic...otherwise, why are we even here and why are you even responding. I would have preferred if I read someone else's rational opinion rather than write my own but it is what it is.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:02 PM
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Another reason why it wrong from roots. Transferring resources from men who work more to women who work less. IMO this is the major reason why most feminists prefer welfare states: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWfi04zkmak
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:44 PM
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When they look at you and can not come up with rational argument and can only nod their heads and shut up. Or if online when they again can not come up with counter argument and just leave or say maybe I am right...or say whatever, throw insults and leave the conversation.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:29 PM
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I actually do read properly and have changed my mind before and have admitted i am wrong online when I was wrong so you are making wrong assumption.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:28 PM
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Considering how being a slut(who later have difficulties with staying loyal) and cheater is normalized I think there is a good reason why some shaming should exist. Not just for women but in general it's good to have some moral boundaries in society.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:26 PM
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My opinions are based on facts and logic, not just beliefs and wishes. I grew up in religious country but managed to change a lot of my views that my society taught me because I had ability to critically think and I am proud of that. Unlike the west colleges and schools here were not leftie indoctrination camps so I did it on my own. I have never lost a debate when it comes to feminism, ever and I have not read argument from you that would convince me to change my views. And what do you base you…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:30 PM
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First, those American feminist funded people go into other countries spouting the same crap they say in their own countries, that's the issue because we are not the same. Second, voting is an Overexaggerated issue and I will explain why. Voting itself is a relatively new issue since in feudal era there was no democracy to begin with. In late 18th century US was created, in 19th you already had women rights movements, in the late 19th century women could vote in some states (not on federal level)…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:13 PM
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Fifth, feminists love to pretend that they are opposing establishment...when they are the establishment for the last 50 or so years. Their cooperation with Rockefellers and them mixing with lefties since 70s makes me doubt their motivation of purely wanting to help females. Add the huge funding they get today is the root of corruption, it's my strong belief that in time any movement or organization with that kind of money and influence will be corrupt...and feminism most likely is already corrup…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:03 PM
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Fourth, feminists are usually atheists so I assume they believe in evolution or some natural selection was the reason why humans evolved and become what we are today. In other words, we are animals. Just like every animal we have instinct and inclinations. Since feminists love making assumptions I will make mine as well. First human societies that were created and rules they followed were based on our instincts. Men and women like in many mammal's case have different instincts. Men were usually …
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:55 PM
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Third, while criticizing patriarchy and claiming how horrible it was...they forget to mention amazing heights humanity achieved. We are the most powerful living organism on the planet. Our achievements brought us from caves where we lived barely better than animals to current era...and it was mostly thanks by men. To gloss over that and pretend like we only did horrible things is misrepresentation of history. And they pretend like they would do better if only feminism existed in the past or if w…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:45 PM
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Second, feminists always seem to love to say how horrible it was for women, and make ti seem like how great it was for men and how patriarchy is horrible. I personally do not care about nobles and kings and some top 1-10% of the populations, I care about the other 90-99%. Lives of people in the past were not good compared to our standards, be it men or women. Many of jobs females go for right now simply did not exist, in fact most of the jobs that exist today were invented only recently in human…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:34 PM
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First, different countries have different history. Not every country is the west and similar. For example if in my country women start saying men historically treat women horribly or how difficult it was for women in the past compared to men...they would be extremely ungrateful human beings. Over millennia+ we had a lot of wars, in every century we had wars 99.99% was on our territories us defending it from invaders...invaders who would enslave, rape, slaughter women and kids if we lost. That's …
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:25 PM
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Wave 3...and that was achievement? Unless very very naive everybody knew how f-ed up Hollywood is and that did not change too much tbh. Wave 2 best achievement was idea of women's shelters IMO. Wave 1 I agree. I have not see much positive from feminism since 70s if any at all...and their funding and influence is insanely large.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:37 AM
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They have provided nothing positive since 70s IMO.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:33 AM
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Nah, they want it to collapse...they take current moral values for granted.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:33 AM
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What did they get right exactly since 70s?
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:32 AM
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And there women who say they want to be chased more...how about women figure out wtf they want first...but I guess not criticizing fellow women(unless they are anti-feminist) is a habit you can't change.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:32 AM
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I will agree about women in certain countries. But I think most people mean women in "western" or "developed" countries...unfortunately men do not see how f-ed up the system is for them. As for history...that's another matter, I do not think men were doing oh so great and women were suffering, that's a stupid view.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:30 AM
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And I think their ideology is wrong from the roots. And most feminists are just horribly educated to know that. Their knowledge of history is garbage. Just tidbits of cherrypicked history of the last several centuries...
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:27 AM
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Considering amount of money flowing in women's movements they are probably corrupt as hell and willing to push narrative just to earn even more money and influence.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:24 AM
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With their huge funding, it will be a difficult battle.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:22 AM
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Yet, western countries keep funding tens or hundreds of billions of dollars per year...probably mostly from men's taxes.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:19 AM
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One debate I've never lost is a debate against feminist...their arguments are too easy to disprove and their historical knowledge is trash.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:17 AM
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"Not try to get my own back" Wrong approach, can't defeat monstrosity funded by tens or hundreds of billions of dollars per year without being a bit selfish.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:15 AM
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Are you joking? First, why the hell should I be responsible for actions of countries I do not live in? Each country has unique history, culture, laws and I do not see any reason why I would responsible for the actions of the people in other countries. Second, no equality in the west? I agree. Men are being discriminated against systematically...there are so many facts backing it up that I've actually never lost any debate on that matter with anyone. Third, if you think your movement which gets t…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 06:53 PM
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Chart 2 shows that fewer partners from women result in fewer chances of divorce. Also, why do chart 2 and chart 3 not match in areas they should? Another issue is that argument you used for chart 1 can be used on chart 2 as well. You could say since women who have more partners and are older have not divorced yet only because their marriage is too young, and their chances of divorce should be even higher than the chart shows in reality.
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