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It's a bit worse than that, even though women are over represented (both as students and employees), universities (in Canada) still have special programs to get more women and to support women. This is true for both students and employees. And yes of course no programs to support men or to get more men, even in things like social work and education (which are something like 80-95% women). So it's not just not addressing gender imbalances it actively working to increase gender imbalances.
/r/MensRights03/08/26 03:05 PM
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Look up the term "equity deserving". At Canadian universities men are not "equity dserving". They are a minority of students and in almost every employment category, but all the EDI programs still try to get more women since men don't deserve to be equally represented.
/r/MensRights03/08/26 02:57 PM
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The double standard is society's double standard. For individuals it is about moral inconsistency and hypocricy.
/r/MensRights01/08/26 03:30 AM
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When female engineering students and (most of the) male engineering students were let go you say the key property of the victims was them being female. The murderer didn't go to a gender studies class which is mostly female, they specifically killed engineering students. To be killed they had to be both female and an engineering student. When male Muslims were killed and the females were let go you say the key property of the victims was being Muslim. To be killed they had to be both male and Mu…
/r/MensRights31/07/26 02:39 PM
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Sure misogyny can kill. But not caring about male deaths kills way more. You can call that male disposability or you can call that misandry, I think we probably need to find better language and discourse for it. I'm not blaming the "misogyny kills" concept for not caring about male death. Not caring about male deaths predates that concept (by thousands of years?). It's not that misogyny doesn't kill it's just that misandry kills way more. (If you wanted to riff on the commonly used phrase) On th…
/r/MensRights31/07/26 01:17 PM
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Yeah a standard argument is it doesn't matter when men get killed because it's probably another man who killed them. It is one of the methods the system uses to justify not caring about the murder of men. Just to be clear, I think it is bad when anyone gets killed. The gender of their killer is irrelevant. Just because someone is killed by someone of their own race (or gender or sexual orientation) doesn't make the killing of them ok.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 01:00 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre is an example of killing of women for being women (and engineering students). So it happens. On the other hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre is an example of killing men for being men (and Bosniak). Overall and in general men are killed at a much higher rate than women. It's just that nobody cares.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 12:37 PM
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It's the same thing you want to blame boys behavior or whatever, but when girls are doing worse at something you would never blame girls behavior. You think you already have it all figured out, so you don't gain anything from talking to me. Go argue with someone else.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 12:05 PM
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I'm highlighting the obvious problem with their reasoning, but some people have trouble understanding even simple ideas. Or perhaps you think when boys are doing worse it is because of their stunted brains and when girls are doing worse it is because of the system. Could it be that when boys are doing worse it is also because of the system?
/r/MensRights31/07/26 05:35 AM
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Boys used to out perform girls in school, does that mean that girls used to lag behind boys in brain development?
/r/MensRights31/07/26 04:53 AM
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Interesting. You could also try gender neutral versions. Such as my spouse is yelling at me.
/r/MensRights30/07/26 10:02 AM
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Already in 1930 women were around 43% of college students, that's higher than the proportion of men today.
/r/MensRights28/07/26 07:46 PM
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Not including men in childcare goes beyond being against inclusiveness. It's ironic that some of the same people who complain that men don't do enough childcare don't want to include men in childcare.
/r/MensRights28/07/26 07:44 PM
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>Misandry doesn’t kill unlike misogyny. Men are victims of murder and violence at much higher rates than women are. Maybe "misandry" isn't really the right word for that, it's more that nobody cares. A male death or injury is not so much of a concern.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 04:24 PM
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Yes, the answer is mostly no one should be conscripted. However the answer is also it is better that only men are conscripted than both men and women are conscripted. There are some organizations that say it is ok to conscript men but not ok to conscript women. The reasoning (that I've seen) is that this balances out for the benefits men have in other places. NOW (the biggest feminist organization in the US), used to have a policy of equal responsibilities. In other words if men are conscripted …
/r/MensRights20/07/26 12:04 PM
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There were real androcides (eg Srebrenica), but I don't really think this is one. If women were fighting they would also be killed. Of course men are definitely most of the victims of the war, but I don't think that makes it an androcide.
/r/MensRights04/07/26 03:27 AM
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It depends on what you mean by a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 05:38 AM
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For this one in particular, I don't really see it as symmetric. There is more of a reason to put whoever gives birth on the birth certificate. The sperm supplier should also be on the certificate, but I guess there might be some exceptions? (like say a sperm donor), though there would still be a record of that person, I guess you can't go back and change original birth certificates.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 07:43 PM
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If you happened to be male in the same situation could the mother be left off the birth certificate?
/r/MensRights18/06/26 01:53 PM
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Are you ok with anyone slapping your ass unless you have explicitly told each person you don't want them to slap your ass?
/r/MensRights17/06/26 11:19 PM
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Yes some universities have 75% or higher female CRCs.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 03:33 PM
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Sorry it's an argument I often hear especially in the context of men should be eligible for EDI. It's an argument used by people who think men should not be eligible for EDI. I support EDI based on under-representation, not based on being part of a selected class of people.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 03:31 PM
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Sorry when I said "good", I meant the system thinks no efforts need to be made to get more students in female dominated areas. That's why I put it in quotes. Also women being over 60% of the students is celebrated in university advertising and I have also heard is celebrated in speeches make by a university president. So that's another sense of "good" (but not what I meant originally). Definitely the situation is complicated. A first step would be to do all (or many of) the thing that are doing …
/r/MensRights20/05/26 03:25 PM
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>I wonder how that could look to shift the culture to encourage and reward boys and men for taking on other roles like that. If I were to make one critique if feminism it is that it does not supports men doing more female rolls. It may say it does in theory, but people who claim to be feminists rarely if ever support the kind of things that would get more men doing care rolls. Rather they fight against things (like EDI/DEI) that would get more men in those rolls.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 03:01 PM
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For CRC chairs it is a hard target/quota, don't meet it and you don't get the money. It is also a one way quota, there has to be at least 51% females.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 02:52 PM
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It was the principal not a teacher which for me makes it worse. I think the bias in the education system is systemically and systemically against boys. You can see this in the results of the system. The system isn't designed or operated with boys in mind. You seem to be arguing the bias is balanced and also against girls. (But the end results are not balanced) You can also see this all the way up to bias in the university system. As we discussed segmenting and then only trying to get 50/50 in ma…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 02:38 PM
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Yes I would like to see some version of that. However things like unions, governments, and universities have no interest in that and lots of groups actively push back against (and sometimes explicitly reject) anything like that. Not sure what your recent edit of your comment was. Is it another version of "women underrepresented=societies fault, men underrepresented=individual men's fault"?
/r/MensRights20/05/26 02:22 PM
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So how about the (lack of) initiatives for 30% of teachers, social workers, nurses ... etc?
/r/MensRights20/05/26 10:23 AM
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>But that’s very different from saying women are only succeeding because institutions are unfairly favoring them. Yes one standard argument is if men outperform women it is because of bias in society (and so needs to be fixed by society and governments) and if women outperform men it is the fault of those men (and so men need to do better by themselves). For organization in particular. I recall when my son started going to school and I asked the school to help him with organization. The principa…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 09:00 AM
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>This is because women have been historically denied access to higher education and many of those scholarships are offered to women because they are underrepresented in historically male-dominated fields. Where and when? The proportion of women graduating higher education today is higher then the proportion of men 100 years ago. Are you talking about 200 or 300 years ago? Today even universities with more than 70% females still have programs in place to get more females and no programs to get mo…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 08:48 AM
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So I guess if the person who gave birth identified as male then they would be inside of category 1 or 2.
/r/MensRights19/05/26 06:43 PM
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Are you aware of any outreach programs for boys in anything?
/r/MensRights11/05/26 09:50 AM
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>There is a large push to have a 50-50 divide in every field, This is not true at all. The push is to have 50-50 is only in fields where men are a majority. In something like Biology where there is a majority of women, there is no push for 50-50. The push for 50-50 in Biology went away when women became a majority, then it just becomes a push for more women in STEM.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 01:45 AM
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I agree it is good to have roll models. For example this is one reason it would be great to have more male teachers and social workers and more female plumbers. There's government programs (in Canada) to get more female plumbers, but unfortunately none to get more male teachers. I've never met any young girl or boy who wanted to be the head of a fortune 500 company, but I guess children of the top (in terms of wealth/income) 0.01% also need roll models, though this isn't relevant for 99.99% of t…
/r/MensRights01/05/26 09:02 AM
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Also having 50% of CEO jobs isn't going to help women in general, it's only going to help there top 0.01% (or less) of women.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 04:19 PM
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... and decreasing ... This decrease is facilitated by teachers unions, governments and teacher education programs.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 06:33 PM
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That was more or less the view of my son's elementary school principal who told me boys are just disorganized and nothing can be done about it.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:53 PM
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Depends on who you mean by "they". Certainly I have heard the argument that since men are privileged and women are oppressed, it is ok (or good) that women are doing better in (and getting more benefits from) the education system.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:48 PM
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I try to work locally (so for me that means in Canada). Feminism can be used to promote neocolonialism which I don't support. Most of the countries you hear about being bad to women in the media are enemies. There's a few issues in education, for example EDI (DEI in the US) is very big in education and it promotes having more women. More generally universities promote having more female students and make no efforts to have more male students. I don't see this as justified when women are already …
/r/MensRights08/04/26 02:15 PM
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The assumption of privilege is used to justify getting more benefits in various areas. If you point to any clear advantage such as say higher female graduation rates from (in Canada publicly funded) universities, a common response is to say this gender based advantage is ok since it balances out the society wide privilege that men have.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:10 PM
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Teachers unions also aren't willing to consider lack of male teachers a problem.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 06:41 PM
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If there were male teachers there would be roll models.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 06:40 PM
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Consenting to sex isn't consenting to being pregnant. Birth control also exists, if you don't want to make someone pregnant use a condom (or other method).
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:57 AM
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If a man gets pregnant they can also get an abortion, so it is equal.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:30 AM
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I'm also old and live and grew up in Canada. In my high school corporal punishment was allowed for boy but not for girls.
/r/MensRights31/03/26 05:08 PM
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Rate of workplace deaths is something like 20 times higher for men.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 05:39 AM
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As much as sex does. Why would it matter how you orgasm?
/r/MensRights19/03/26 04:00 AM
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I guess ... I don't want to do that, but I did edit it in a different way, hopefully it is now more clear that I am not making that argument.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 05:11 PM
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You are already tricked if you are just looking at professors. There's also students and staff.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 01:36 PM
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Here is the kind of argument I often hear: The why for males doing worse is always the individual male's own choices, since there's no way it can have anything to do with the system.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 01:34 PM
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Though I repeated multiple times I was talking about Canada.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 12:08 PM
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Native people, North American Indians ... the term is also searchable.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 11:45 AM
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So for example indigenous men who suffer from the discrimination against men and against indigenous people?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 11:25 PM
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For me the unfortunate thing is people think only men bully like this, but I think it is actually more common for women to bully in this way. That's probably because society make much more of an effort to protect women and one way they don't protect men is by ignoring/denying that this can happen to men. The next step that happens is to blame men for not going into female dominated environments and say it's just the men's "choices". So I think you are very brave to share this and thanks for doin…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 11:19 PM
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So to clarify the misunderstanding we can look at the example of indigenous men, they suffer from the biases against both groups. Or?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 11:11 PM
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I also discuss with people. I'm not confident enough to think my views are always correct and think when I discuss with someone I'm correcting them. But I don't see any discussion from you at all (or correcting ... just complaining). If you can write a 4 paragraph complaint, you would think you could write a 1 paragraph correction/argument.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 10:54 PM
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It's interesting they don't give any examples gender-blank intersectionality involving males, for Canada an example would be indigenous men. So it seems maybe even though the concept itself is solid and doesn't have bias the way it is used often (even generally) has bias (as shown by your link). (This is pretty close to the observation make by the other person who responded to you.)
/r/MensRights16/03/26 10:45 PM
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So why didn't you correct them and move on? Instead you just throw shade at the sub. I was aiming for that in terms of using the example of indigenous men who have to deal with the problems of being being a man and being indigenous. Do you care to correct my correction?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 10:37 PM
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So for example indigenous men don't just have to deal with the biases against men and the biases against indigenous people, they have to deal with them both at the same time which can combine to make things even worse for them. For example they have very low rates of higher education but very high rates of incarceration.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 10:35 PM
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So for example indigenous men don't just have to deal with the biases against men and the biases against indigenous people, they have to deal with them both at the same time which can combine to make things even worse for them. For example they have very low rates of higher education but very high rates of incarceration.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 10:20 PM
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This is very sad. Were your classes mostly women?
/r/MensRights15/03/26 02:42 AM
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And who are the men being polyamorous with, other men?
/r/MensRights14/03/26 03:02 PM
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Yeah I support equity. I don't support programs that try to increase an already overrepresented group.
/r/MensRights13/03/26 05:51 PM
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Gender equity would be great. The problem is programs which increase gender inequity.
/r/MensRights13/03/26 05:49 PM
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Here's some related cases occurring in Canada. https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2018/who-gets-the-frozen-embryos-in-the-divorce.php
/r/MensRights11/03/26 04:08 PM
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My theory ... this person is trolling to make the sub look bad.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 03:44 PM
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I'm glad you feel ok to cry. You might try posting this to bro pill which is basically a male support group reddit. >men usually have violent tendency Please don't drink the coolaid. It's great to speak for yourself and understand your personal experience in terms of gender rolls, but please don't fall into classic misandric stereotyping.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 12:51 PM
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This is a US only argument. In Canada we have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which explicitly allows discrimination based on sex. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. (2) Section (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has…
/r/MensRights10/03/26 01:11 PM
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This is a good point which shows how complicated this is. To turn this point around would you be ok with POC only ubers?
/r/MensRights10/03/26 04:44 AM
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This is what I said in my comment. Why create discrimination when you can get what you (say you) want without it.
/r/MensRights10/03/26 04:40 AM
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Why not just have an option to select sex/gender. Why the need to have only the option for females/women. It just creates some bullshit gender conflict for no reason.
/r/MensRights10/03/26 04:36 AM
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I don't think aging is harsher on women.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 05:06 AM
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Sometimes people feel they know your experience and thoughts better than you know them yourself.
/r/MensRights06/03/26 03:06 PM
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Students in science in many places are already half women. Things like biology are majority women, but still try to get more female students (through targeted funding and other programs). Students in things like social work are 10% men. When are we going to encourage men into teaching and other such jobs? Any such effort gets a lot of push back. >Real equality means supporting girls without making boys feel invisible. Monetary support goes a lot farther than feelings, but yeah even saying it wou…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 01:59 PM
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>Because historically women were not allowed to educate themselves well. What history are you talking about? 100 years ago there was a higher proportion of women in university than there are men today. Same if you look 50 years ago. Marie Curie who died more than 90 years ago won two Nobel prizes, so obviously she was able to get an education. Are you talking about some very specific times and places? Which ones?
/r/MensRights06/03/26 01:04 PM
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Link article?
/r/MensRights02/03/26 08:58 PM
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Universities in Canada are overall around 58% female (that's a few years old), but some are more like 65 and even up to 80. Graduating students can be a higher proportion. Things like social work (which could use more men) can be 90+% female.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 10:13 PM
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I support using the efforts of EDI to help make university demographics more representative of the population. I'm mostly interested in gender balance and not race. Race is more complicated because it's not as well defined as gender/sex, there are more classification issues. Also which population are you trying to represent? For gender it's roughly 50/50 to have balance in most things. I'm also fine with trying to get racial diversity also. For universities the main groups are students, faculty …
/r/MensRights01/03/26 08:44 PM
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Remember this is a sub about men's rights, not white rights. Do your same analysis for women instead of hiding behind people of color. Incidentally black people are 4.3% of the Canadian population, so 5.7% would already be overrepresented (from a Canadian POV). https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/89-657-x/89-657-x2024005-eng.htm
/r/MensRights01/03/26 04:02 AM
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This job is one example of something coming from a quota. The CRC program has quotas for gender (female CRCs have to be at least 51% at each university by a certain date or government will not fund any new nominations also quotas for other groups). Affirmative action is all over the place at universities. Here is an example from Dalhousie: https://www.dal.ca/dept/hr/employment_equity/fair-hiring-practices.html "Candidates who do not self-identify as a member of an Equity-Deserving Group, will be…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 11:33 PM
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Native people in Canada are "oppressed" and get treated very poorly by the system and generally are doing worse than the average Canadian, even though at a formal level they have more rights. Some other groups have special categories and rights and on average do better than average people but are still considered deserving of special treatment. Often the better off the group is as a whole the less acceptable it is to challenge there special rights or to point out their privileges.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 08:00 PM
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Something like nonbinary for indigeneous people. Do you have access to google or any other search engine?
/r/MensRights28/02/26 07:47 PM
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>In the last year have have heard form my MPP and a friend who is in EDI that Canada doesn't have affirmative action or quotas. That is just false. What do they say when you show them hard evidence this is false?
/r/MensRights28/02/26 07:46 PM
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Get informed about facts. Don't just follow tropes and false things people say on the internet. Second concentrate on the bigger issues and don't get distracted. At the professor level UT biology is still majority men, but how about social work, sociology, education, psychology ... etc. Also the total student body is 3/5 to 2/3 women. So the government higher education funding going to women is much more. Some parts of the university are 90% female, but programs and policies are for the few rema…
/r/MensRights28/02/26 07:43 PM
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It's covered by 15 1) and 2) of the (Canadian) Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Also it is to cover government mandated requirements for this specific federal government program (CRCs). When it comes to diversity most students and employees at Universities are already women. Even most academic positions at many universities and colleges are women. However many (or maybe most ... not sure) universities still have preferential hiring for women.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 07:29 PM
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I had no idea you were talking (trolling?) about feminism.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 03:10 AM
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One problem I see is the concentration on the perpetrator while ignoring the victims. The victims are the ones suffering and who need to be protected. The other things about language is how it sounds to people "rape" is a horrible thing ... "made to penetrate" is ??? For male children the term should be "statutory made to penetrate"? The olympics (ie who is worse) side of this obscures the problem. The problem is that (a good chunk of) society doesn't think women can sexually abuse children (thi…
/r/MensRights26/02/26 06:29 PM
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It's not 100% for the first year, it's (close to) 100% for the first day or first week. I think it's only 80% for the first year. Also in the first year most of the victims are boys. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5862181/
/r/MensRights26/02/26 06:20 PM
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If someone claimed that men are more likely to be pedophiles (or abusers or whatever) would that be demonizing a whole gender? Higher lower doesn't really matter over 800 of 9,000 children sexually abused by women would indicate sexual abuse by women is also a problem (ie it's not just men).
/r/MensRights26/02/26 06:18 PM
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Thanks for this. A comment and a question though. >A very large study published in the British Medical Journal in 2017 reviewed 9431 studies to produce data from 33 countries and found that mothers committed 54.7% of all parental homicides. Where in the study is that? I did find this "The 12 countries with detailed data on parent as perpetrators showed mothers commit the majority of parental homicides of children under 1 year (71.7% (IQR: 50.2–75.7))." .... ok I found it ... "Data from 33 countr…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 11:17 PM
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I think there should be more male teachers, that's not a secret.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:48 AM
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That's also a problem, but it also helps to have more than one male roll model.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 08:45 AM
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I first heard Myth 1 in the early 1990s.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:17 AM
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A kid with only a mom might also have only female teachers. They may have zero male roll models, and only have women telling them what men are like or about what their experience as a boy means. I think this does make them more likely to follow what men online are telling them. This is one of the many good reasons to get more male teachers.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 02:00 AM
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I believe anyone can make their own wikipedia page and also edit pages.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:01 AM
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In this documents you can see the gender distribution of victims of family related homocides from 1985 to 2015 in Canada. It is more than 4/10 male victims. (see page 46) https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/pub/85-002-x/2017001/article/14698-eng.pdf?st=6jxqJe-7 This is a different count than intimate partner murder victims (see page 54) which are more like 1/4 male victims (the number are smaller so they vary more year by year). It was hard to get this kind of information by a direct search. Of c…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 02:07 AM
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They might be talking about movember.
/r/MensRights15/02/26 09:06 PM
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It depends on the particular place and situation. To put it in a milder way, there are places/situations where men are disadvantaged compared to women. Those places can also be hostile. There are also places/situations where women are disadvantaged compared to men. I guess you believe overall women are more disadvantaged and the OP believes men are more disadvantaged. I guess you accept that in some ways(/places/situations) men are disadvantaged?
/r/MensRights13/02/26 06:04 PM
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>Women have been getting more degrees than men for 40+ years, But 150 years ago women (and almost everyone else) couldn't even go to most universities ... Already 100 years ago women were better represented at universities than men are today. What about 1,000 years ago ...
/r/MensRights11/02/26 04:07 PM
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I call this segmentation. Look at a group, so in 1970 that was university students, once you are a majority in that group, segment the group into smaller pieces. Rinse and repeat. Yeah one segmented group used to be science students, now that women are roughly equal or a majority in that group it's time to segment department by department. Or you have to reclassify biology (and psychology and ... ) as not a science. The other side of this is you have to make sure people ignore places like social…
/r/MensRights11/02/26 04:02 PM
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For sure the society thinks like this about dangerous jobs, feminists I'm not so sure. It's in the context of a society that needs people who are willing to do dangerous jobs. So it uses whatever methods to get people to do that. Excluding men from childcare and teaching I would think feminists would oppose more, but they seem to be ok with low number of men in these. It's very rare to find support for trying to get men into these jobs.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 01:49 AM
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Although you outline a common narrative, I couldn't find that narrative in the linked document.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 03:20 PM
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Thank you. Upvote from me, but maybe not from everyone.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 01:30 AM
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The Australian Human Rights commission is second at 83.4%. In Canada this is the part of the government that oversees equity (for example having equitable representation of men and women). Though they also have a workplace gender equity agency at 79.6%. So it seems this agency is leading through example.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 02:24 PM
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What a rad fem (or feminist) means is very different to different people. I think your version is mostly an imagined one. It's just like how many people on reddit think of "men's rights" people. They imagine them to be something they are not.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 02:15 PM
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I don't think you can assume that because someone identifies as a radical feminist that they hate men. You should treat her based on your direct experience not based on some labels. That being said I think there are issues with how psychology organizations talk about men and this probably has some downstream effects.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:51 PM
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Men are more likely to die violent deaths, so at the level of society misandry also kills.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 03:31 PM
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Don't the people training the AI tweak things to stop some kinds of output they don't want? They do make some changes that change the output or?
/r/MensRights26/01/26 07:46 PM
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Join some clubs or group activities which women also do.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 06:19 PM
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My interest is also in equality and equity. There's many areas and jobs where men are underrepresented especially care jobs like social work and teaching. Equity for men in these kinds of jobs would help both men and women (maybe it would help women even more).
/r/MensRights09/01/26 08:02 PM
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So you mean they compute the male life expectancy for a country and then add 5 to the result, and then compare that number to the ideal life expectancy to get the score in that category?
/r/MensRights08/01/26 04:17 PM
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I don't think they raise the life expectancy for men, they lower it. Maybe you can say something like they adjust the life expectancies to make the female one higher by five years. I forgot how they do this, it is make the base female one 2.5 years higher and the male 2.5 years lower when compared to the HDI? I know that too much detail can also make reading it confusing ... sorry I'm not such a great wordsmith. I think what they do is they have a base expected long life (which gives you full ma…
/r/MensRights08/01/26 03:53 PM
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Yes I'm familiar with this, it's just stated a bit strangely to me.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 10:40 PM
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I think there is a typo here "What you will not find mentioned anywhere in the report or anywhere on the UNDP website is that the value for male life expectancy at birth was “adjusted” upwards by five years." maybe you mean female life expectancy?
/r/MensRights06/01/26 07:38 PM
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or she sold him out ...
/r/MensRights05/01/26 05:46 PM
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An example of femicide would be the Ecole Polytechnique massacre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre I think calling any killing of a women or girl, femicide is a misuse that waters down the term.
/r/MensRights26/12/25 07:14 PM
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>where it’s considered a taboo to do anything to them compared to the double standards towards me You would have to be more specific. Clearly in society many things, for example violence, are and should be taboo. >So are there any real misogynists out there forming real misogynist groups? There's all kind of groups and there are people who hate women (ie real misogynists) so they probably form some kind of groups.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 10:26 PM
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>FGM is ACTUAL mutilation - cutting of parts from the genital so the women can’t have sexual pleasure for the rest of her life There's many different kinds of FGM (or genital cutting) which range from less severe than standard circumcision done to boys to much more severe. At least according to this study women who had genital cutting had higher rates of orgasm than those you didn't. https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/ipsrh/2003/03/genital-cutting-may-alter-rather-eliminate-womens-sexual-sensat…
/r/MensRights24/12/25 09:02 PM
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If you look at society as a whole, men are more likely to get murdered and more likely to commit suicide. So societal misandry is more likely to kill than society misogyny.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 02:48 AM
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Self-identified whites make up around 56-60% of the population of the US, so white men would be more like 28-30% minus non-straight. This doesn't include hispanic whites, but hispanics generally have access to DEI. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045224 Including hispanics it's around 38% white male.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 12:47 AM
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Not sure why you think everyone is for equal rights.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 12:42 AM
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Yes sure I'm talking about some more extreme examples not every post secondary institution. I don't know what you mean by "gatekeeping" in nature. This post talks about Canada research chairs. There is a Canada wide policy/rule that the CRC at every university must be at least 51% female, if you don't have this you lose the government funding. So this isn't really "some", it affects all universities. Of course it only goes one way, universities can (and some do) have 75% female CRCs. That's just…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 06:53 AM
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Your use of the term "college" indicates you are from the US. I'm talking about Canada. In some universities in Canada official university policy is that if a male and female candidate for any position are equally qualified you have to hire the female. This is policy directly from boards of governors. As noted by other posters this is not legal in the US, but it is legal in Canada (or at least it hasn't yet been successfully challenged in court). Note this policy applies to **all** hiring, even …
/r/MensRights17/12/25 08:32 PM
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>except that nipples also count as being a protected body part. Women have the right to go topless in public (at least in Ontario), so I guess (at least in Ontario) this wouldn't make sense. I agree being misogynistic doesn't help (and rather hurts) men's rights. However we also have to try to be fair even when the biases of society try to push us away from fairness. Obviously she should have just left the food and left, there's no reason to film a sleeping person in their own home right, and po…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 06:55 PM
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You are right in some cases it is even worse than what I laid out. I'm just referring to the idea that I often hear which is being opposed to any draft, and and also saying it's better that only men get drafted than that everyone gets drafted.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 06:43 PM
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Hear hear! If you have more info on now (or other women's organizations) opposing male representation in nursing please share. (There's many examples of opposing equal male representation in schools) Here is another example of opposition to helping get equal representation for men. Even pointing out the inequality was pushed back against hard enough that the university retracted their statement. https://yorkopenletter.wordpress.com/
/r/MensRights17/12/25 06:03 PM
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I agree they don't care about diversity. They do care about having more female faculty, staff and students.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 06:00 PM
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>In Canada, you cannot have a male-only job posting, but you can have female-only job postings. Not quite true, 15(2) is gender neutral. Also this job posting is about CRC positions. They have a particular history. It would be great if you can find some Canadian postings for female preference in jobs which are already female dominated (they are out there, but I don't know how they get posted).
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:12 PM
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This post is about Canada where we have EDI, not DEI and also we do have quotas (both soft and hard). Of course the quotas only go one way.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:10 PM
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>In Canada, you cannot have a male-only job posting, but you can have female-only job postings. This isn't quite right and if you look at 15(2) is it gender neutral. Yes in almost all cases this has been applied to have female only job posting, though in some very special case there are male only ones. More common are female preferred job posting where you can't look at any male candidates unless there are no suitable female candidates. These kinds of posting even occur for female dominated jobs…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:02 PM
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Person A and B make the same amount of money, but only person B pays taxes. Person A thinks nobody should pay taxes, but at the same time don't want to share the tax burden. Since nobody should pay taxes it is better that only person B has to pay taxes and they don't have to. Of course they agree it would be even better if person B also didn't have to pay taxes.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 05:03 PM
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One could argue voluntary military service is like voluntary pregnancy, and involuntary conscription is like the handmaid's tale. For sure bearing children and breast-feeding are very important contributions to society. Some women choose to do these (or try to do them) and some don't. I'm completely pro-choice.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 04:25 PM
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Ok that make sense, but there are also non-domestic forms of abuse and coercive control. Right? So it's still not the same. I'm specifically referring to the linked article and what is said in it.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 08:35 AM
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I think that's a great position for NOW to take 40 years ago, and I think it's the right position. However I don't see anyone (at least online) in feminist groups taking an "Equal Burdens, Equal Rights" position. I see NOW at least as of 2016 had the same (admirable) position. Do you know how most European feminist groups advocate on the draft in Europe? Any of them have an "Equal Burdens, Equal Rights" position as opposed to an eliminate the draft position? I found this https://womenalliance.or…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 04:17 AM
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Where did you read this? >I looked at the article, and apparently the murder of a woman or girl will be considered femicide if there was a pattern of domestic violence and/or intimate partner abuse beforehand. I read this in the article: "Cases of femicide, the killing of a woman or girl, will be considered first-degree murder even if the crime was not planned or deliberate if it can be proved that the victims were subject to a pattern of abuse or coercive control. " There's also child abuse for…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 02:08 AM
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Of course that would make a difference, but it's not what the article you linked says (it explicitly says the door was already open and she filmed from outside), so I guess I just have to take your word for it. Don't get me wrong, I don't think what she did was ok, even if the door was already open and she didn't go inside.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 04:02 PM
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Although I agree that it's very hard to do these kinds of comparisons because there's way too many factors (such as unpaid labor, but also many others which haven't been brought up) , I wouldn't really call the prison system something that men benefit from.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 03:30 PM
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I agree with you that things like that are often mostly wealth issues and that many things that some feminist frame as gender issues are really wealth issues. For example the idea that any disadvantages men suffer are their own fault because men are (more) in control of government and capital. I think framing them as gender issues plays right into the hands of the elites, who want people to be distracted from the more relevant wealth issues. This framing also plays into gender stereotypes and ex…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 03:26 PM
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According to the link she didn't enter the house, though this doesn't mean she didn't do something wrong.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 01:00 PM
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For kids with no men helping to raise them, not at home or school ... so maybe online?
/r/MensRights10/12/25 08:57 PM
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Are you sure it is biological and is not at all due to socialization?
/r/MensRights08/12/25 11:24 PM
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The article gives a (now dead) link to the open letter. Do you have the letter? Edit: Here's something ... https://yorkopenletter.wordpress.com/
/r/MensRights08/12/25 11:12 PM
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My wife is a vegetarian, I often ask her to make sure there's something on the menu she can eat. I also often ask whoever I'm eating with because I'm curious and was considering a few options.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 10:40 AM
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You might check out thetinmen sub, he has a lot of information about societal bias against men. I wonder what you would think of it. My main issue gender discrimination in education and there's not really a good home for that issue.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 10:55 PM
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>Men with prostate cancer will also benefit from improved care through the strategy, alongside £3.6 million investment in suicide prevention projects targeting middle-aged men I'd take the small win. Even to have a men's health strategy is a win.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 02:10 AM
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It's not really UT's fault it comes from the federal government. Also at least they use "equity seeking group" and not "equity deserving group". Better would be to just use "equity group". https://www.chairs-chaires.gc.ca/program-programme/2019_open_letter-eng.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com
/r/MensRights20/11/25 04:22 PM
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I asked.
/r/MensRights18/11/25 03:29 AM
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I never said you shouldn't use stats. Stats are good (though generally you have to give references, or it seems like they just come from your behind). But you also have to interpret what they mean. Lets say your stats are from some legitimate source. How do you interpret ~85–90% of violent offenders are male. Does it mean men and women are essentially different (ie gender essentialism) or does it mean society treats men and women differently. The conclusion the other person would probably take i…
/r/MensRights18/11/25 12:27 AM
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It's very hard to challenge sexism be it against men or women. It is particularly not accepted in society to challenge sexism against men. Generally I would keep quiet, and if you do challenge you really have to pick your moments, and maybe challenge in a more indirect way.
/r/MensRights16/11/25 11:21 PM
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People who are not gender essentialists would argue the stats you give show how biased society is. So maybe you are agreeing with who you are arguing with.
/r/MensRights16/11/25 11:06 PM
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The idea is to blame anything where men are doing worse on the individual men (for example on masculinity) and blame anything where women are doing worse on discrimination.
/r/MensRights14/11/25 01:48 AM
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That was what the OP was asking about. The friend was insisting on agreement. AFAIK the world is less safe for men than for women. Men are (300 or was it 30 ...) times more likely to die on the job for example. But I agree with you that safety is important, even which gender has it better for safety is not so easy to measure.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 03:24 AM
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Women have it harder in some ways and easier in others. Which ways are more important? I think everyone has it harder. Do you insist people agree with you before friends with them?
/r/MensRights03/07/25 03:08 AM
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As I said there is propaganda on both sides of this debate. Sorry I don't have time to read the whole paper you linked, as the paper itself says there are other papers that argue the exact opposite. So there is debate in the medical community about this. I know many people (as you yourself said) want to argue this one based on their religious belief, I don't think anyone else is really pro-circumcision. It really makes no sense to me, and seems no different from fgm which for some reason is cons…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 12:33 PM
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I don't know the video, and I'm sure there is a lot of misinformation out there both supporting and against circumcision. I know people who were circumcised and found it traumatic, so it can be traumatic. Other than that I'm not discussing the trauma issue as I don't know anything about it. >Again I am not interested in arguing for or against circumcision. But then the rest of your post is arguing against arguments against it ... ? You also say the benefits outweigh the risks, but you don't give…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 12:12 PM
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Here are some of the possible risks of circumcision. https://med.stanford.edu/newborns/professional-education/circumcision/complications.html Complications occur in around 1.5% of cases and complications are more common neonatally. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9679242/ Why not let people decide for themselves when they are adults? You would get the same benefits and lower risks and also the people would be able to decide for themselves. Can you quantify how much AIDS risk reduction t…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 11:47 AM
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How do you feel about circumcision of females?
/r/MensRights25/06/25 11:38 AM
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... and the holdouts are where the university gender equity initiatives are being focused ...
/r/MensRights17/06/25 08:27 PM
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and women should talk more about femininity? Maybe, but I would leave that up to individual men and women. I wouldn't want to prescribe to others what their identity should be about, how they should construct their identity, or what aspects of themselves should be important to them. I'm more concerned about systematic bias against men. For me that's what men's movements should be about.
/r/MensRights17/06/25 06:25 AM
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Why would you text her after she made two complaints against you? I think that's a bad move on your part.
/r/MensRights17/06/25 05:23 AM
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It is mostly feminists that talk about masculinity.
/r/MensRights16/06/25 02:01 PM
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... I think wikipedia is often biased on anything political ...
/r/MensRights13/06/25 09:12 PM
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There is a general phenomenon I call segmentation that occurs in employment equity situations. First the company/organization overall should have at least half female employees, then break the organization into pieces and only look at the ones that have more than half males, and then consider those the problem ones, get those to at least half female, rinse and repeat. Where I work there are around 10 categories and all are majority female, so they started to segment more and in other ways. After…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 08:47 PM
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Male advantage = societal bias, female advantage = biology It's a variant of the standard argument, female disadvantages are due to the unfairness of society, male disadvantages are men's own fault. (eg in education) Of course things like the UN GDI (gender development index) goes one step further, if women life 4 years longer than men that is considered bias against women. (Yes that's not a typo women living only 4 years longer than men is considered unfair to women.)
/r/MensRights13/06/25 08:26 PM
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Yes, and it is just getting worse (as the female majorities in the unions increase), I see no change in the other direction on the horizon.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 07:07 AM
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Yes I know the go to is to talk about STEM. In most STEM men are still the majority of employees. The other go to is to only talk about a very small category of jobs such as tenure-track jobs at universities. I'm not talking about those, I'm talking about high end office type jobs like HR, almost all are women employees, but still they have jobs where they only hire women and they won't even look at resumes from men. I'm also talking about overall organizational policies, some places have overal…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 06:50 AM
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Policies of preferred hiring for women even when they are the majority of employees, this goes along with policy/union contract language saying men are not "equity deserving". The majority of the members in these unions are women.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 06:34 AM
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Regarding "Is Discrimination Justified". I just scanned the article, but it is much worse than just "equality of outcome". In many places women have to be chosen (hired, picked for scholarships etc) even when they are a majority. If you look at the UN's GDI (a gendered version of the human development index) what is considered an "equal outcome" by the UN is men and women earn the same amount of money, get the same education, and men die 5 years earlier than women.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:03 AM
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Have you even met a self declared incel in real life? What were they like? My impression is "incel" is just a term used to insult others.
/r/MensRights11/06/25 08:14 AM
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You are right, but it would be even better if she was talking to health care professionals to stop mocking men who actually do ask for help.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 10:00 AM
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I wonder if they do the same process for women.
/r/MensRights10/06/25 09:55 AM
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Especially true if she has found he next guy already.
/r/MensRights23/05/25 10:58 AM
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I think there is a misunderstanding, and perhaps I need to be more detailed. I'm not saying any standards should be changed or have changed. Just that in some parts of STEM like biology or psychology there are majorities of female students. So one strategy, if they want to continue the practice of getting higher proportions of female students, is to redefine STEM to exclude the areas with female majorities. I don't see what I'm saying as anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 03:36 PM
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Right redefining terms is an alternative to segmentation.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 03:49 AM
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Nursing is an area where they are actually trying to get more men. I think because hospitals don't have orderlies as much or at all, nurses have to do more physical things, so men are helpful to do those. Also places like psych wards can be dangerous, so it is desirable to have men. I'd be thinking more of teachers, pharmacists, physiotherapists, social workers, psychologists ... for many of these it would be very helpful to society to have more men. Then there are other jobs like office workers…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 02:54 AM
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It's a standard method (at least at universities). Once women are over represented in some job (or as students), the idea is to break that job into smaller pieces and say women are under represented in some of the smaller pieces while ignoring the pieces where men are under represented. Once women are over represented in all the smaller pieces, rinse and repeat, break the smaller pieces into more pieces.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 02:02 AM
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This just means that more segmentation is needed. STEM needs to be broken into smaller subcategories. Things like phychology and biology are mostly women, so what really matter are physics, CS and Math.
/r/MensRights21/05/25 01:51 AM
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Wording is part of the point here, but for me gender equality is very important. No one should be discriminated against because of their gender (or sex). So there is no way to go to far with gender equality. The problem is calling something more gender equality when it fact it is creating gender inequality. Related to this problem is the idea that only women can suffer from gender inequality, that idea has been pushed so hard for so long that most people can't imagine it to be any other way. It …
/r/MensRights22/04/25 07:15 PM
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As a firm believer in gender equality, I would say gender equality has not gone far enough and also that gender inequality has gone too far. Thinking gender equality has gone to far, is falling for a false narrative.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:46 PM
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I also hold the door open for everyone, just make sure the way you hold the door doesn't force them to get physically close to you. BTW I agree that the term "toxic masulinity" is mostly used as a misandrous insult, and masculinity in general is mostly a topic talked about by feminists.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:33 PM
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Parents expect boys/men to do it themselves and girls/women are supposed to be helped.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 02:00 AM
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>they get comments like wish it were me. I'm sure some trolls say that. But do you really believe people sincerely say that? >So they are forced to show calmness and keep it down, struggle alone. I dont mean every ody, but a lot of them. Generally I think this is true men are expected to be self-reliant and women are expected to be helped. The problem here is that people call this unequal treatment by society "toxic masculinity", in other words they reinforce the idea that it is the man's fault …
/r/MensRights16/04/25 01:50 AM
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He said yes women are suffering from misogyny, but he doesn't think it is widespread.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 01:46 AM
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>As such, I’m curious as to how I can get involved. These are just the issues I'm more interested in. I think these things do start with conversations. 1 Get EDI to work for men also. Men deserve equity. There's a movement to say that men are not equity deserving, and that language is starting to be used in contracts. That's a movement in the wrong direction, everyone deserves equity. 2 Support getting more male teachers, and more generally try to make the education system match up with the need…
/r/MensRights15/04/25 09:26 PM
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The results about gender are only about bias against women, or also about bias against men?
/r/Male_Studies11/04/25 01:12 AM
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For sure teaching may not be a practical career for all people in all places. I'm mostly concerned about working to improve society locally, so I'm mostly interested in the situation in Canada.
/r/MensRights08/04/25 05:09 PM
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Isn't that what I'm doing by asking you?
/r/MensRights08/04/25 12:32 PM
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The internet tells me for example that Cal State is 7k a year. Did you go to a private school? Or go out of state maybe?
/r/MensRights08/04/25 12:12 PM
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Not sure how you can build up a 100k debt. If you want to be pragmatic it really depends on your circumstances, like for example what country. For example in Canada some universities offer two year bachelors in education and tuition is around 6k a year. So I don't see that leading to a 100k debt. Engineering degrees are harder to get.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 09:14 PM
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Sorry I think there is a misunderstanding. My point was just there are men who want to become teachers. Lack of interest is often cited as a reason for lack of male teachers. You are right that I can't at all speak to the reasons why they had trouble getting hired. I also know women who had trouble getting teacher jobs. If society wanted more male teachers, all the same methods that have been and are used to get more women in various kind of jobs could be used. The problem is the will to change.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 12:59 PM
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I looked up the statistics for the US. Median pay for high school teachers (may 2023) is $65,200 (63,280 for other teachers). Median pay for all occupations is $48,060. Teachers also have reasonably good pensions (say something like 70% of top salary after 35 years). If you aren't comfortable on 65k and can't afford gas to go to your father's funeral, imagine the more than 50% of the population who makes less then 50k. Requirements are generally a bachelor's degree. "Some states require high sch…
/r/MensRights04/04/25 10:18 AM
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>Enter a profession that makes 50%-100% less, on average, than careers with similar non-education degrees As I said in my other comments, in Canada teachers make around 1.5-2 time median salary and around the same an engineers. The pay reason is a standard myth that goes along with "women's jobs pay less".
/r/MensRights03/04/25 09:54 PM
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Most men. have jobs that pay less then 100k. At least in Canada teachers make around 1.5 to 2 times median salary and around the same as most types of engineers (slightly more than some types and slightly less then some types) In Canada you don't need a masters (few teachers have them), and you can make more than 100k. So (at least in Canada) pay is not the main issue. Where you come are men not interested in being engineers? One problem is many of the relevant groups, teachers unions, schools, …
/r/MensRights03/04/25 09:50 PM
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They are commonly (mis) used in Malta. Google "plea deals Malta".
/r/MensRights01/04/25 01:31 AM
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Though a quick internet search tells us plea deals are common (and criticized even getting the apparently innocent to admit to murder) in Malta.
/r/MensRights01/04/25 01:26 AM
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Introductions by third parties are sometimes the best. My wife and I were introduced by a mutual friends, who essentially arranged our first two or three dates and come on them. Though at one point in the middle of a date she left, and I was on my own (terrifying as it was).
/r/MensRights01/03/25 01:00 AM
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Sorry I edited since I didn't really have the right name, it is TheTinMen.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 04:10 AM
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My son had a teacher like that. One time when I picked him up for school, he was very excited to see me and he managed to get to the front of the line. The teacher made him go to the back so her favorite girl could come out first. I found it sickening. It is very hard to engage with this, maybe talk to the pastor, or you could try to talk to the teacher directly. The problem is how to talk to them without making it sound like an accusation. There were other times when I noticed sexism in my kid'…
/r/MensRights24/02/25 01:23 AM
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I don't know about MRA groups in particular, but there's examples of individuals doing the hard work. For example you can go to TheTinMen subreddit, he is doing great work on men's issues. Of course it is very hard to make progress. One particular issue he is advocating for regards treatment of male inmates. You can go find the letter he wrote to the UK government. If you want to help out on this issue, you might be able to find a way. As for me, I'm mostly trying to help out in the areas of emp…
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:49 AM
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That book is on my reading list (but I'm a very slow reader ... I might never get to it). Since I haven't read it I can't say.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 02:45 AM
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Do you think the post should have been deleted? Assuming it was posted on reddit it depends on which sub it was posted on. Each sub has their own rules for posting. Nonreddit forums probably also have rules for posting. For example I would expect this to get removed if it were posted on AskHistorians.
/r/MensRights21/02/25 11:06 PM
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Like I said I'm against using the legislative process as a form of trolling. So we agree on the goal, we just disagree on how to get there.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 02:18 AM
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I have worked with many women who make things much better for everyone around them. On the other hand I have also worked with some who make things worse.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 02:16 AM
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Ok I'm trying to understand what you are saying. These bills have nothing to do with keeping people alive on the surface. Are you saying they are good because it make the issue have more exposure?
/r/MensRights18/02/25 01:10 AM
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Didn't I just say I agree with you about abortion?
/r/MensRights17/02/25 01:11 PM
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I don't follow State politics closely enough to say (basically I follow not at all).
/r/MensRights17/02/25 01:08 PM
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Just to be clear of course I don't support these recent extreme restrictions on abortion. At the same time I don't support sarcastic jokes as bills. I'm not someone who thinks anything "my team" does is automatically right, and anything "the other team" does is automatically wrong.
/r/MensRights17/02/25 01:27 AM
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I didn't say anything about any party. I'm not pro-gridlock in general.
/r/MensRights17/02/25 01:24 AM
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The problem with introducing bills as sarcastic jokes, is one day some of them will pass and become laws. Probably the main intent of the bill is to gum up the legislature to stop it from dealing with anything serious.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 12:03 AM
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Do you know about wikipedia or google? You can also look there. Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of authority are primarily held by men. The term patriarchy is used both in anthropology to describe a family or clan controlled by the father or eldest male or group of males, and in feminist theory to describe a broader social structure in which men as a group dominate society.\1])
/r/MensRights14/02/25 02:29 PM
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Yes of course it is other reasons. In Canada at least it's not pay. My personal view is there are systemic issues that make it harder for men.
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:36 PM
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In Canada (I believe) it is around 20-25% male teachers and is going down (most of those are older). I think it is important to have more male teachers, as male teachers have gone down so has male performance in school and participation in higher education. AFAIK teachers unions see no issue with having few and in the future fewer male teachers. This is also my impression for teacher trainers and governments. I don't know the stats for the US.
/r/MensRights11/02/25 02:25 PM
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sorry there's a missing /s
/r/MensRights09/02/25 02:21 PM
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In Canada it is quite different. For example teachers and civil (or mechanical) engineers have roughly the same median salaries. Electrical engineer median salaries are about 5% higher than secondary school teachers. It's nothing like the spread in your graphic. https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/wagereport/occupation/15904 https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/wages-occupation/17815/ca (you can easily look up the others on stats can)
/r/MensRights09/02/25 01:16 PM
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The boy only got assaulted because of his own toxic masculinity. The girl would be the victim of societal bias.
/r/MensRights09/02/25 12:29 PM
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When I was around 6 or 7 or 8 I did figure skating, a group of 4 teen age girls tried to carry me into the women's change room. I managed to escape, but I was devastated. I went to find a place to be alone and cried. I stopped doing figure skating after that. When I tell this story to people (I tell very few people), and say I found this traumatic, I have heard things like you were a very sensitive child, or they were just young girls you shouldn't take it so seriously. I don't think I've every …
/r/MensRights09/02/25 12:15 PM
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I don't understand what you are saying. No I don't think women (in general) are oppressed.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 07:25 AM
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That's not at all how I see it. I see it is as more like cognitive dissonance (basically at a societal level).
/r/MensRights07/02/25 03:50 AM
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I don't see any revenge here, just gender/sex inequality/advantage/inequity.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 03:00 AM
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You can google Russian population pyramid 1950 and compare all the % of people over 25, there's roughly twice as many women in each age group.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 01:28 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Enrollment-1930-1940_tbl1_286376743 You can see the proportion of women in university in 1930 was higher than the proportion of men today. In absolute numbers the difference is much greater. Not exactly the same stat, but you can see this for an idea of what is happening today. (This has a time lag compared to number of students today) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/18/us-women-are-outpacing-men-in-college-completion-including-in-every-major-r…
/r/MensRights07/02/25 01:18 AM
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Ok I found another chart where the proportions are stated more clearly, but it only goes back to 1930. So this only shows that 95 years ago women were a higher proportion of students in university than men are today. Of course it you look at absolute number the difference is much bigger. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Enrollment-1930-1940_tbl1_286376743 The reason this temporarily turned around was WW2 (and to a much lesser extent the depression).
/r/MensRights07/02/25 12:47 AM
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Not only by counting the absolute numbers, but also by counting proportions. The proportion of men in university today is lower than the proportion of women in university 100 years ago. It is a bit hard to get precise stats, and I have some sources from yearbooks, but here is a paper also. That's why I was asking how the OP got their stats, they don't even give a reference. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/lkatz/files/gkk_jep.20.4.133.pdf
/r/MensRights07/02/25 12:32 AM
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Perhaps people are downvoting me because they don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the proportion of men in university today is less then the proportion of women in university 100 years ago. So gender equity is lower.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 12:31 AM
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I'm not so sure your stats are correct. What exactly are they and where did you get them? There is less gender equity in universities today than there was 100 years ago.
/r/MensRights06/02/25 01:51 PM
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Pulicising the risks and giving people information about how and where they can get tested, how long it takes, how they can get time off of work. Other useful information, not mocking.
/r/MensRights05/02/25 08:08 AM
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You just asked a question and I answered it now you want to change the question. The media campaign is blaming men, do it more like a media campaign for women and it would work a lot better. But you are right the problems of men's health are systemic.
/r/MensRights05/02/25 06:32 AM
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Lower costs, give time off, less mocking of men and instead more compassion and taking men's health issues more seriously (for example encouraging sick leave for men to be at the same level as for women). Explaining men's difficulties less in terms of blaming them and more in terms of societal bias (as is done for women).
/r/MensRights05/02/25 05:47 AM
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I'm not sure I would consider random strangers on Facebook as real people.
/r/MensRights04/02/25 02:17 PM
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I love socks. I don't usually complain when receiving gifts. Ok there was this one time when my mom gave me some used glasses with some printing on them that was almost worn off ... but I only complained to myself.
/r/MensRights03/02/25 07:15 AM
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Of course men have a choice. Don't stick it in ... or at least use some form(s) of birth control. Or at least that's what my now father in law told me when he came around with a shotgun. (note the final sentence was a joke)
/r/MensRights01/02/25 09:31 AM
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I think that's an improvement. The term "toxic masculinity" is used to blame men for the problems created by how society treats them, but putting it down to trying to appeal to women misses the point. Men aren't forced to give up their lives in warfare to appeal to women. They aren't discriminated against in jobs and education to appeal to women.
/r/MensRights27/01/25 11:27 PM
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She doesn't want to swallow, maybe you can ask her to snowball you next time. Most of the other responders probably never had a gf.
/r/MensRights27/01/25 11:18 PM
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Women live longer, no rejigging of data will make this gender imbalance go away. Speaking of which the guy in the picture doesn't look like he's taking care of his health.
/r/MensRights27/01/25 11:14 PM
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Would you really avoid buying something if you thought the company making it was owned by a women?
/r/MensRights27/01/25 11:03 PM
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You should take up masturbation.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:10 AM
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Any man who gets pregnant can get an abortion as easily as a women who gets pregnant. There may be some issues with understanding basic reasoning/logic here though.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:38 AM
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Yeah so men CAN get abortions without the agreement of the other party.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 05:34 AM
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>Men don't have to wear bras. You've never heard of a manzeer? >Men can pee standing up. So can women.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:06 PM
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Actually I think men can also get abortions without the agreement of the other party, but they would have to get pregnant first (which might be difficult for most men).
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:05 PM
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>every time anybody genuinely wonders how I feel, is a very special time for me. It happens once a year at best. I hear you on this one.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:03 PM
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I think on many subs you get muted as part of a ban, so whoever banned you doesn't get to look bad.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 01:01 PM
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I think he is talking about his personal experience of loneliness. There are many lonely people out there, many of whom are men. Some aspects of dealing with loneliness may be particular to men. His personal experiences and suggestions may help other men (and maybe people of other genders) who are dealing with loneliness and depression. I also know men who can attract women (or men) who are lonely, I don't think sex is a fix all.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:17 AM
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Depends on the context and what you are trying to achieve. Can you give more information?
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:29 AM
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I think your main goal is to make men's rights activists look like idiots.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 07:19 AM
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Maybe write to the UN and ask for clarification on their study of slavery.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 07:09 AM
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I'm not assuming consent or lack of consent from men. You are assuming lack of consent. Of course men have the right to say no.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 06:54 AM
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I see what you are trying to say. You are assuming "forced marriage" means both sides are forced into it, but I don't think that is the case.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 06:13 AM
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The mistake (assuming what the OP said is true) is that 50% of the 70% of female slaves are women in forced marriages accounting for 35% of the total number of slaves), that means the other 50% of the 70% of female slaves are women in others kinds of slavery accounting for another 35% of the total number of slaves. Then the other 30% is male slaves. Does that help? By these numbers it seems slavery of women is a much bigger issue than slavery of men. Though of course both are horrible.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 12:40 AM
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Maybe I didn't read carefully enough. My guess is that is due to a change in the way things are counted. But sure if there is really that much of a change it is an issue, but not as big as the issue of female sex exploitation since those numbers are still more three times as high. To put it another way, I'm more interested in total numbers rather than change of total numbers (although change is also good to look at). That's kind of my point. There's many issues were men really get screwed way mo…
/r/MensRights13/01/25 07:48 AM
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I guess you are debating the definition of slavery. There's a lot of issues facing men, to me this seems like a wasted effort. However many men and women are slaves, it's horrible for both, I don't see this as a gender issue. I do see your other post as more of an issue. A photo of an enslaved woman in Libya rocks Reddit - never mind, she is in a room full of enslaved men : r/MensRights Often the suffering of men is minimized or neglected.
/r/MensRights13/01/25 07:35 AM
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hence, 35% of modern slaves are men in forced marriages Your mistake comes at this point.
/r/MensRights13/01/25 07:31 AM
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Reporting is much easier said than done. People are often afraid of retribution, not being taken seriously and other things.
/r/MensRights10/01/25 08:18 AM
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At some universities it is 80%, but there's still a concerted effort to get more female students and provide them with more services.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:48 AM
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This isn't just at the level of female students, who continue to get large female only scholarships, it is also at the level of hiring, where in some places you have to hire women over all other genders, even though they are almost two thirds of the employees. They have even changed the equity terminology women are "equity deserving" while other genders are not considered to deserve equity (ie don't deserve to be proportionally represented).
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:47 AM
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It is much more prevalent than just schools. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/dress-code-women-working-at-b-c-legislature-win-right-to-bare-arms "In a memo titled “Parliamentary Dress — Update,” Plecas endorsed preliminary recommendations to the legislative assembly’s dress code put forward by acting clerk Kate Ryan-Lloyd that allow for women working in the legislature to wear sleeveless dresses, shirts and blouses. Plecas says policing dress guidelines will not be left to individuals an…
/r/MensRights30/12/24 02:32 AM
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I don't know why you think I'm blaming men. Do you mean because of the word "patriarchy" referring to men? Sure some self-proclaimed feminists blame men as a group.
/r/MensRights24/12/24 10:49 PM
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I think this "not all men" and response "but always a man" occurs in banter that generally isn't very helpful, it's at the level of "I know you are but what am I".
/r/MensRights24/12/24 02:56 PM
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Maybe what you are describing is a female dominated patriarchy.
/r/MensRights24/12/24 08:57 AM
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The argument goes that is the patriarchy. At a basic level the idea is society is ruled by powerful men. Though it still screws over most men. Of course some go quite a bit further with what "patriarchy" means.
/r/MensRights24/12/24 08:55 AM
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I don't think the way the escape clause is worded is on the face of it allowing discrimination only against men. In application probably yes, just not the wording. It is the same in Canada with the charter of rights section 15 "15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or ment…
/r/MensRights20/12/24 01:46 AM
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If a woman gets pregnant she should pay the man who made her pregnant money while she is pregnant?
/r/MensRights20/12/24 01:41 AM
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So maybe you can give an example of a place and time of a society that considered woman subhuman.
/r/MensRights11/12/24 05:46 PM
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If you want to call deception rape, it would change a lot of statistics.
/r/MensRights01/12/24 06:11 PM
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Generally there will be more concern and stories about bad things that are more common. Less common bad things will create less concern and stories.
/r/MensRights01/12/24 05:22 PM
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Do you think historically men got raped as often as women?
/r/MensRights01/12/24 03:52 PM
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At least in Canada teachers make around 1.5 to 2 times the average salary. (Median is just over 90k a year). That is (slightly) higher than median civil engineer salary. If it were just about salary most men would rather be teachers than be in whatever job they have. For STEM (eg marine biology) students the federal government has programs that fund only women, even in areas where women are a majority.
/r/MensRights23/11/24 10:31 AM
1

Why not have all female combat units?
/r/MensRights12/11/24 05:40 PM
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Yes it is unclear what counts as an attempted suicide and how often they are reported. An actual suicide is pretty clear. People may try to manipulate and rejigger statistics to try to make whatever point they want to make.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 04:48 PM
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Though in the PRC they use sex rather than gender.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 02:20 PM
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It goes without saying that people should give up seats to small kids, elderly people and disabled people. I guess you missed pregnant people?
/r/MensRights06/09/24 09:44 PM
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Exactly and mosquitos live longer than blue whales.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 06:06 AM
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Haha I love it. If it is reasonable man he can probably handle talking to you dad anyway, and maybe you dad will like him.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 05:13 AM
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The ancient Sumerians were the first to drink beer and they drank it with a straw. https://letempsdunebiere.ca/how-the-sumerians-invented-beer/#
/r/MensRights01/09/24 01:19 AM
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I agree with most of what you said, and I have benefited from therapy myself. However I think there is also a connection to feminism and men's rights. For example the APA (I believe that is the biggest therapy association in the US) has started to inject feminist political ideology into their framework for therapy. I believe this has a negative effect on therapy for men and is problematic.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 11:48 PM
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But I was raised on the internet. Trolls don't bother me. What does bother me is all the people in the comments and elsewhere making outright lies and fabrications about myself and the contents of that post to justify their belief that I must be lying or secretly a terrible person. To me those people exactly fit the definition of Troll.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 05:00 AM
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I think everyone including you and all other men, but also all people, should work on improving themselves to be better people. I don't think this dependant on being part of a class of people. Of course how you do that depends on your experiences and the situation you find yourself in. Being male is one of the factors in your experience and where you find yourself, but it is unlikely to be the most important one. So it is worth considering how your experience as a male has influenced your thinki…
/r/MensRights18/08/24 11:10 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths I think you didn't try very hard on google. Here is a less scientific reference which claims around 1 per three days. (A secondary rather than a primary source) https://bestdoulas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/circdeathrisk.pdf
/r/MensRights16/08/24 02:43 PM
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Catherine the Great.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 03:42 PM
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I mean we don't have any way to figure out if what went on 100,000 years ago was imbalanced. Often tellings of the past are influenced by present day political considerations. That comment is more relevant to tellings of (social) history from 100 years ago. But I guess you are just joking around, or trying to be provocative.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 03:34 PM
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The prior imbalance went on for more than 100,000 years. Can I have access to your time machine?
/r/MensRights14/08/24 03:06 PM
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Women have been the majority of teachers for well over 100 years. The proportions have gone from 2/3 to 3/4 in the last 20 (and are still increasing). How is case law helping with that. Is your time frame for change millenia?
/r/MensRights14/08/24 02:54 PM
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If someone has more papers (or whatever) they are not equally qualified on paper. It is impossible to legislate lack of bias, you can only use lawsuits in extreme cases. Maybe you are just arguing against doing things like hiring more male teachers?
/r/MensRights14/08/24 02:51 PM
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but not when it comes to positions of power and leadership. Maybe, but it is irrelevant to my point. If that is the case you can prioritize promoting women or hiring women for positions of power and leadership. This does not justify hiring women for entry positions when they are a majority of the employees. You should hire or try to hire whichever group is underrepresented. How does not having a female president mean there should be more female teachers?
/r/MensRights14/08/24 02:45 PM
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How about if two people are equally qualified? Also people have biases. Different people will prefer different job applicants.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:50 PM
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How does this explain prioritizing hiring women for jobs where women already make up large majorities. Sometimes as women get control of unions by being the majority, the rules move towards favouring them more. This moves things away from balance not towards it.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:46 PM
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My question is different. Why only have quotas (or other kinds of affirmative action) for women? There's hoards of jobs in which men are underrepresented.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:44 PM
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It is getting worse rather than better. As women are becoming more overrepresented in places like education and government bureaucracy, the thumb is still on the scale to increase the proportions of women, and probably the thumb is pushing harder than ever before.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:25 PM
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Some jobs have to be at least 51% women. No such rules for men. Some places of employment have to preferentially hire women even if 90% or the people in that job are women.
/r/MensRights13/08/24 10:18 AM
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The fact that girls would on average like it less would be irrelevant. I agree this is standard traditional thinking, but I don't see how you can assume this. But I mean, the guy would probably respond to that argument with, "most of the time the girl is manipulated and coerced. Not so much with the boy. It's rare that the boy is coerced and manipulated. The boy would brag about it, the girl would be scarred." Why would a guy argue that? I would actually argue it is the opposite is more likely. …
/r/MensRights13/08/24 09:52 AM
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boys would like it more on average (higher libido) promiscuity affects females more The first problem is you consider these "concrete facts". the second problem is that each case of abuse is abuse of an individual, it is not abuse of a group. If I say Canadians like it more, then does that mean it is less bad to sexual abuse a Canadian ... or course not. The same argument would lead to saying it is (more) ok to sexual abuse a woman who "likes it" (basically a women who has had many sex partners)…
/r/MensRights12/08/24 03:21 PM
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The term is no longer equality it is equity. According to some in gender studies striving for numerical gender balance=overhiring of men. "This essay demonstrates why striving for numerical gender balance among tenure-track and tenured faculty in English departments not only fails to achieve equity but helps facilitate the overhiring of men." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277539521000947 In some places in Canada equity means always preferentially hiring women, regardless of…
/r/MensRights12/08/24 02:09 PM
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Another aspect of infanticide is that males are more likely to be victims than females. Over one third more male babies are murdered (in the US). Not sure why. Some interpretations or possible explanations would be that female babies are more valued (or less devalued), or that it is less or a problem to murder male infants. There's probably many other interpretations or possible reasons. Another interesting aspect is that infanticide is more than four times more likely if the mother was born in …
/r/MensRights11/08/24 02:42 PM
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Maybe it is usual US bs, but to smuggle a US criminal out of a NATO country is pretty unusual and restricted to extremely special and well connected people. 'my partner is important, hence I am important', As I said this has a potentially sexist aspect. This generally works more in one direction (from husband important to wife important).
/r/MensRights10/08/24 02:37 PM
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So you and everyone you know are upper middle class professionals who live a big city. (guessing)
/r/MensRights10/08/24 12:42 PM
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I know lots of people with one, two or three or more kids where it isn't the case that both parents work full-time. I'm not saying that is the norm though. In most of those cases the wife doesn't work full time, in some (only two I know) cases the husband doesn't. I feel like if you don't know anyone in a relationship who doesn't have a job you either don't know many people or the people you know aren't an average selection of people. Generally it is harder for men to be the one who doesn't work…
/r/MensRights10/08/24 09:54 AM
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In this instance this woman also had a senior husband, This is introducing a potentially sexist aspect. Consistent with the American preference, host countries declined to prosecute the majority of American offenders. Which is completely different from what happened here. In this case (the claim) is she was smuggled out of the country.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 09:47 AM
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Does this mean that some level of wage gap is to be expected?
/r/MensRights10/08/24 08:48 AM
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Do you know anyone with three or more kids?
/r/MensRights10/08/24 08:45 AM
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I said I take it as satire but maybe that's the wrong way to think of it. I don't think it was intended as satire. I think it is written to try to make people who report harassment and assault look bad. Maybe in particular with respect to Weinstein.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 02:36 AM
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I (and I guess you also) see the book as ridiculous. Nobody should take it seriously, I take it as satire. Maybe it was paid for by Weinstein himself. IMO it is more likely written by a critic of feminism than by a misandrist. That being said there are people who do use the system to their advantage and use the system to smear others.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 02:22 PM
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last tango in Paris
/r/MensRights09/08/24 09:09 AM
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The first example they give of how these methods were used is the "victimization" of Harvey Weinstein.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 09:01 AM
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Not so sure this was written by a female misandrist. The first example the book gives of a victim is Harvey Weinstein. More likely it was written by someone posing as a misandrist.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 08:58 AM
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This is also true for chimps, so it probably has some relation to biology.
/r/MensRights07/08/24 11:37 AM
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In Canada it went from 20% (women average hourly wage for full time jobs 20% lower than men's) in 2002 to 12% in 2020ish. For people under 24 the gap is around 3% and part time women under 24 make more. There's some other gaps, men tend to be unemployed more often and there is around a 2000% work related death gap.
/r/MensRights05/08/24 01:23 AM
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I could only speculate about causes.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 10:07 PM
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... one other important one I missed ... Making the teaching requirements easier for men to meet. For example this could be in terms of what courses are required to graduate in education. For example as an alternative to students to taking some very basic specialist courses, they could accept more advanced specialist courses as substitutes.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 03:10 PM
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In trying to help society, I think it is best work on my own country, it is not as useful to try to make changes in Brazil or Uganda say. Both because I can't influence those places and because I don't understand their societies. I think teaching is a very important activity and should be well paid. I also think it would be beneficial to have some more men doing it, and it should be open to accepting men.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 02:24 PM
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Yes so teachers already have much higher than average wages, why would men not be interested in having a much higher than average wage? The methods used in Canada are many. They vary from strict quotas to softer quotas and targets to preferential hiring, to university scholarships for certain groups, to special retention and support programs, to special funding for some groups to awareness programs and concentration on the difficulties that some groups may have in certain jobs and probably a num…
/r/MensRights04/08/24 02:01 PM
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You said this The only way you get more men is to pay much higher wages, which is one of the standard (but false) arguments given to explain a lack of male teachers. Did you see the comparison to civil engineers? I don't think education is a harder program than engineering. I'm having more trouble getting quality stats for average wages for university graduates in Canada, but it seems that it is around 77,000 which is quite a bit lower than an average teacher with 10 years experience. So it seem…
/r/MensRights04/08/24 01:52 PM
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In Canada at least, average teacher wages are between 1.5 and 2 times average full time job wages. So anyone who wants to make much higher than average wages might be interested. Average salary for a teacher after 10 years experience is 92,600 (2021/2022 figures), which is slightly higher than the average salary for a civil engineer (90,000 Nov 2023 figures). As you point out teachers also have much better job security. Only speaking for myself as a man I would prefer better job security to slig…
/r/MensRights04/08/24 12:33 PM
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"How the parties will get more men into teaching roles at primary schools is unclear." At least in Canada there are well established methods that have been used to increase female representation in many places. The only impediment is the will to use these methods.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 10:27 AM
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Not sure where you live but in Canada over 3/4 of teachers are female (2022), this has been going up, in 2002 is was around 2/3. Also the male teachers tend to be older, so this proportion is probably still going to increase. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3710015301&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=3.3&pickMembers%5B2%5D=4.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2021+%2F+2022&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021+%2F+2022&referencePeriods=20210101%2C20210101 In elementary and kindergarte…
/r/MensRights04/08/24 10:17 AM
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0h at first I misunderstood and thought she was saying something is misandry. I was shocked and pleasantly surprised ... unfortunately that's not what you meant.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 12:02 AM
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If a patient has that kind of issue they should probably see a male therapist.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 11:20 PM
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This might be a pretty hard sell. The idea that the guy in the picture benefits from the patriarchy seems to be becoming more and more ingrained, and trying to be pushed more to the mainstream.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 12:21 AM
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Then your pro-abstinence stand is wise, and I commend you for it. However it might not work out for 25 year old married people.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:10 AM
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Even for married couples?
/r/MensRights28/07/24 11:35 PM
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Are you pro oral and anal? (say for married couples who don't want kids at the moment)
/r/MensRights28/07/24 11:20 PM
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If you want you can research the statistics. I think marriages from 40 years ago lasted less long than ones from today. Put in another way, long ago divorce rates went up, and then more recently they went down.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 10:38 PM
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Equity for men does not fit into Canadian government policy. I'm (extremely slowly) trying to push to see how that can be changed, many people I talk to support such a change, but as of yet (as far as I can tell) not so much support from the people who could help make such a change, and also a lot of pushback from others.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 01:25 PM
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The palmer sisters are always available if you need to relieve yourself. Also I think men need affection as much as women.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 11:53 AM
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In Canada they are starting to use a new term "equity deserving". Men are not equity deserving. In many organizations even where the workforce is already 2/3 women, preferential hiring for women (who are equity deserving) is built into administrative rules and union contracts.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 10:56 AM
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If the statistics are correct (using basic summation) it would mean woman cheat more with married men than men cheat with married women. Also it probably means when people get married the women tends to be more sexually experienced than their husband. Note: The other alternative would be that a lot of the cheating married men do is with other men.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 06:39 PM
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On average, but everyone is an individual.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 03:27 PM
1

Feminists aren't a monolith.
/r/MensRights31/05/24 04:13 AM
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I find it is hard to get good stats, it really depends on exactly what is being asked, and they don't tend to give details about non-respondents (missing data). Slightly different questions can lead to quite different results.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 02:09 PM
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Having discussed this with a number of people, the discussions go in a few directions, usually it's something like "there is a wage gap" or "there are fewer women in STEM" (see segmentation below) or "a basic education in social justice is all you need to understand" or "women are more subject to domestic violence", and those are the more reasonable responses. More unreasonable responses are "men can't be discriminated against" (not meaning it is not allowed, meaning it is impossible) or "it's o…
/r/MensRights30/05/24 12:24 AM
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It means that group deserves equity. Though of course that means people not in that group don't deserve equity. So only some groups deserve to be proportionally represented. You can easily look this up and find it in many Canadian university equity policies on the web. Yes certainly they don't give a shit about socioeconomic disparities and yes I agree that's part of the reason they do this.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 11:51 PM
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One other thing about this. In Canada Universities are starting to use the term "equity deserving" for women in EDI language. Governments don't use this terminology yet. Basically this is embedding the justification for a female majority into the EDI language.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 02:06 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2014/12/29/the-disappearing-male-on-college-campuses/?sh=431ba5be2961 Ok I found this. According to this 32% of college students were female in 1950. And I found this https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d07/tables/dt07_191.asp which gives pretty good stats starting from 1960. I compute 46.2% female in 1960 and 47.6% in 1961. So I think quite a bit higher than males today. So 40 or 42% in the late 1930s could make sense with it going down to 32% in 1950 because o…
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:54 AM
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A reference would be great. The 1950s would have a lot of veterans and the GI bill, so it doesn't contradict a roughly 40% number in the late 1930s. My counting gave 42% in the late 1930s (for one of the main Universities in Canada).
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:39 AM
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Thanks, I'm really interested in earlier stats (and I can't really see the stats in your link without an account). It is pretty well known that gender ratios are worse now than they were in 1970, but I believe they are worse now than they were in the 1930s (that's what my limited stats tell me). It would be good to have more evidence.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:12 AM
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Just one, so yeah not very good stats. I would like better stats.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:09 AM
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I'm interested in quality statistics on these topics. My only source for the 1930s is looking at a University year book I have and counting.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:02 AM
2

I believe the gender ratios are worse now than they were in the 1930s.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 03:43 AM
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I believe if you consider only non-foreign students the female representation is higher.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 03:28 AM
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These days 44% male representation is quite high. More typical is 40% or lower. Would be interested to know how your Title IX complaint goes.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 03:26 AM
1

I just read the content policy (link in the sidebar) and didn't see anything like this (I'm not a good reader, so I could have easily missed it). Can you point me to where they state this policy?
/r/MensRights21/05/24 03:48 PM
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Like the presentage of woman are up because, they could not historicly go to collage or were socialy discoraged to not go. Are you talking about pre 1900, when almost nobody went to college? Why would the presentage of men sudenly colapse? It hasn't collapsed, it has been going from more men (I believe around 60% in the late 1930s) to around equal around 1980, to around 65% women today. This tracks with the ratio of teachers from maybe 60% female in 1980 to maybe 80% now. Funding is another caus…
/r/MensRights20/05/24 04:26 AM
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Remember that 60% vs 40% is a 20% gap, not a 10% gap, it is almost 2/3. Also universities generally are more than 60% women students.
/r/MensRights20/05/24 04:24 AM
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Which men's movement primarily concerned with men's issues do you think isn't misogyny?
/r/MensRights16/05/24 08:59 PM
10

But Elon Musk ...
/r/MensRights16/05/24 06:45 PM
2

If a term is useful, people with conflicting interests will try to disallow the use of it. If you do find a term that catches on (and doesn't sound like word salad), probably those who are against whatever you are trying to do will try to taint that term as well. I think it is important to find our own language and not let others create and control the language that we use to describe ourselves and our experiences.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 11:03 PM
1

I forgot the /s sorry. But thank you for the removal, I guess people can take things the wrong way (but I didn't think of that).
/r/MensRights08/05/24 10:46 PM
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She claims in her appeal that she was tricked into using the drug She claimed he had “temper outbursts and uncontrollable emotions” to the point that she “feared the consequences” of refusing to use marijuana with him. Anyone who makes anyone else feel pressured to smoke a joint deserves to die.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:57 PM
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First you have to figure out what you mean by discrimination. Does "ladies night" count? (that's very similar to your example). I believe someone brought a lawsuit against that but it got thrown out. A more serious example would be the draft. Men were (are) drafted but women aren't. I believe this is the most clear example of discrimination (against men). RGB brought a case (of discrimination against men) to the Supreme Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritz_v._Commissioner (this is in the m…
/r/MensRights06/05/24 04:07 PM
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having to take time off when the kids are sick Does this have to be woman's job?
/r/MensRights06/05/24 03:33 AM
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At that point I realised that women think of themselves as superior I think you are reading way too much into this. The person (who claims to be a woman) or maybe bot was just trolling you (ie just saying whatever to bother you).
/r/MensRights05/05/24 12:20 PM
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Many people have a free pass against bearing children. Bearing children is more dangerous than being conscripted (at least in peace time). Would you rather have all women conscripted and no more children?
/r/MensRights24/04/24 11:44 PM
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I only looked up statistics relevant to the question at hand. As I say for the third time, I agree for raising children a parent of any gender or even other people can do it. For giving birth to children, only some people can do it, others can't.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 01:54 PM
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Let me try to see if there are some things we agree on. Being conscripted is a contribution to society made mostly by men. Giving birth is a contribution to society made mostly by women. I guess we agree on those two? So which is more dangerous? Actually I looked up the stats for Korea and death from giving birth is only twice as likely as death from constription. (Twice as many deaths each year, most deaths of Korean conscripts comes from suicide.) So in peace giving birth is more dangerous, in…
/r/MensRights24/04/24 12:04 AM
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The part that older people can't do is bear the children. I guess you can also have everyone be conscripted and have no children at all, but having no children will only work for one generation, and lack of children is what Korea already has a problem with. Do you know how many deaths there are among Korean conscripts in an average year? I would guess it is lower than the number of deaths during childbirth.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 08:10 PM
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Sounds like an incel fantasy. Maybe just also conscript women with an exception for women with children.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 05:26 PM
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One difference is tiktok is owned by the PRC, so it is working for the benefit of the PRC and CCP.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 03:07 PM
1

Actually i would have to say most feminists i know agree about this. For me this is a key point. I have been advocating for this kind of equal treatment for boys and men for years, and have yet to find feminists in real life would would support it. I have found many who argue strongly against it. Online the vast majority of feminists (I'm only talking about the ask feminists group ... but I think the feminism group is even more extreme), do not support any kind of equity for or effort to help me…
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:37 AM
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I think these are noble goals which I entirely agree with, and I also agree that women would naturally be more concerned with their rights and interests than with men's. I don't see any problem with this. Sometimes there are problems in execution though. It is easy to say these things, and I think the majority of feminists would agree with these principles. The problem I see is when feminists obstruct the rights of men, or see things as a zero sum game. (ie if men get something women lose someth…
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:22 AM
1

but what are y’all’s opinions on adult men getting circumcised? I guess it would be the same as an adult woman getting circumcised? What's your opinion about that?
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:57 AM
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You can google it.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 04:07 PM
3

Have you tried masterbation?
/r/MensRights31/03/24 03:54 PM
1

Roughly speaking I think we both know what "power" means. Yes for every Elon Musk or Joe Biden there are thousands of down and out men, but I wasn't really talking about that. Also sure the power of Biden doesn't gain much advantage for the average man. Though I think women's use of and perspective on power will be different (but not more noble or anything like that). I'm talking about much smaller scale things. Like in a family unit or a small business. Families are complicated, but if you look…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 04:02 AM
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1) I don't believe that there is a widespread trend of doctors murdering women. 2) If you can not google well enough to find out that the majority of college students (in North America) are women, I don't think we are suitable to have a conversation with each other. I see no reason to continue.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:51 PM
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I don't see what comparing black and white women has to do with comparing men and women. What question? If you want a source look it up for yourself. (I'm assuming you know how to use google)
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:43 PM
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1) Perhaps I'm just as lazy as you are 2) See 1) 3) Maybe all inequality is due to people trying harder, maybe some is, maybe none is. Generally I would go with some. It is hard to know the sources of inequality, it is easier to observe it.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:38 PM
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Like I said there are some other metrics on which men are advantaged.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:35 PM
2

Better opportunities just refers to women going to college (including graduate school) more than men. Something like 60+% of university students are women. It is about the same ratio as in the 1930s (except in the 1930s it was mostly men). It switched (ie women became the majority) around 1980. Are you asking me to search the internet for you? As I said I'm just talking about North America. Yes in some other countries men have more educational opportunities than women. (Interestingly enough in I…
/r/MensRights04/02/24 03:16 PM
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I think you are kind of trolling. For health women live longer. For justice there are way more men in jail. For eduction ok for some other countries but for North America women have better educational opportunities than men (so the last one isn't a troll if you are saying "for any country"). Though there are lots of other metrics that are better for men than women.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:26 PM
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If you narrow it to power, I think in most countries men have it "better". Maybe less so in North America.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:22 PM
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East Asia, like the PRC or Japan, those are pretty safe places. Of course it depends on your metric, but at least in the PRC I think men have more power and rights.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:20 PM
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Do you think you might be generalizing a bit too much?
/r/MensRights02/02/24 06:16 AM
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