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it's out of ones control. Like the mods here say, you can't make someone attracted to you. If a girl isn't into you (rejecection/blowout etc) you just need to move on and find a girl who IS
/r/seduction29/04/18 10:52 PM
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All 'No girls' probably. Girl either like you or they don't and there's nothing you can do about it. Keep aproaching
/r/seduction25/04/18 04:22 PM
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Some would say that the whole point of game is to make them like you. Otherwise why do people try to learn this stuff? (although I agree with you!)
/r/seduction22/04/18 02:14 PM
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Good job on approaching. It's just numbers game. only Ryan Goslin would have got them Hot Forreign girls at a guess lol
/r/seduction22/04/18 02:07 PM
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Will be different for everyone If you're a tall guy with a handsome face, you can be amazing at getting laid/have good 'game' with just skimming through one book on seduction For some, they might need to get their game too a Good-like level before they can even snag the odd average looking girl. There's all kinds of factors at play
/r/seduction20/04/18 07:47 PM
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Good job and approaching and on the FR - This is just how it is for normal/slightly below average looking dudes. Them reactions are expected and there's nothing you can do about it, so don't let it get you down
/r/seduction16/03/18 07:16 PM
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Maybe he needs to approach from a 45 degree angle instead of a 56 degree angle ;)
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:45 PM
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I've basically stopped using mysterymethod and I don't have a list i'm afraid. I found the IOD's I mentioned before on some mysterymethod forum post from a long time ago
/r/seduction14/03/18 01:50 PM
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I know about the bait.hook/reel/release thing, but it was my understanding that it was separate from the IOD begets an IOD idea, such as used in this graphic https://i1.wp.com/i45.tinypic.com/33elrae.jpg Someone else explained it to me, but he could be wrong to be honest!
/r/seduction14/03/18 01:49 PM
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Are you saying that my examples such as going quiet, looking around the room, etc are negs? I'd disagree. I'd say they are IOD's. Negs would be things like ''Your nose wiggles when you talk'' or ''Oooh Sick You just spit on me! (when the girl is talking to you'') etc
/r/seduction14/03/18 10:48 AM
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Sounds like you're talking about the mystery method idea of meeting HER disinterest with your own. So you are talking to her and she's not attempting to carry her weight in the conversation. Or maybe she ignores you or whatever. She's showing disinterest, and the idea is that you now need to show your own. And yes, you're right that there aren't many examples of this, as I searched for this myself about 6 months back. However, I don't really think it even 'works'. I practiced showing my disinter…
/r/seduction14/03/18 08:48 AM
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this sub is all 'inner game' / mark manson / 'get a good career and hobbies and the rest will take care of itself' as opposed to outergame stuff, so you'll do well to get the sorts of answers I think you want here
/r/seduction28/02/18 04:32 PM
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thanks
/r/seduction23/02/18 06:18 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7tjh7a/painful_mogging_by_handsome_friend_fr/
/r/seduction29/01/18 04:41 PM
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I don't really think it's about 'mistakes' as such. She's either into you, or she's not, like Mark Manson says. I'd go as far as to say that 98% of the girls a pua's gets, he gets 'in spite' of his 'game' as opposed to because of it. They are just 'into him' or 'yes girls' as mark manson put it. Same way that a super goodlooking guy gets laid using zero game. I don't think you can MAKE a girl physically attracted to you by using 'game' (however that is defined nowadays.) Having said all of that,…
/r/seduction26/01/18 12:23 PM
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Thanks. It's never spoken about, but i'm convinced certain verbal escalation is required before escalating the kino, in general. I guess my issue with the girl the other night is that I did initiate kino, but it was just friendly kino, really. I never advanced beyond that because I never got any IOI's from her, and I failed to escalate verbally (such as number 1 on your list; simply telling her she's cute) because of that same reasons (lack of IOI's) Attraction and getting IOI's seems to be 99% …
/r/seduction16/01/18 11:15 PM
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I have known it to be true that assuming attraction is a good perspective, but i have trouble sticking by this mindset because I get overwhelmed with the lingering and obvious fact that it is not entirely true and that i'm just manipulating myself. Like, with a girl who I 'kind of' know a few nights back who is super cute, I was talking to her and teasing her, and I initiated kino a few times and put my arm around her, and I got the sense that she wasn't entirely comfortable with my contact. She…
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:53 PM
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How does meditation help in actual interactions? I get how it can make you feel calm in the moment (as you meditate) but how does it effect actual interactions? I presume you don't meditate as you talk to girls?! lol (not being sarcastic! genuinely curious) PS - How long do you meditate? How long until you noticed change in your life? And is meditation basically just sitting/lying down and trying to NOT think and just concentrating on your breath and your body? cheers
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:39 PM
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you sound a lot like me, dude!
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:36 PM
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This is Seddit, we're here to learn and prompt seduction. It's not really seduction when the ladies were into you from the get-go and offer up themselves on silver platters as you have described. No seduction took place there. I agree. But then it's not really seduction to just ask a girl what turns her on, is it? I mean, if she's not attracted to you when you ask her that, she'll just look at you like a weirdo, no? Or is your argument that these sort of sexually charged topics actually 'create'…
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:35 PM
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But if I'd have gamed her properly, then she would be interested, presumably. So I feel i'm doing something wrong in terms of 'building attraction'.
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:30 PM
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thanks.
/r/seduction16/01/18 07:49 PM
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'win the lottery!!' is the answer to all of those questions
/r/seduction16/01/18 05:05 PM
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Yeah, the conversation shouldn't be so un-sexy if you're trying to escalate things. Good spot. It's something I've basically never heard mentioned in relation to escalation, but it makes sense that it would be weird to escalate whilst you're talking about something 'un-sexy' as you put it. So how best to implement this? Do you have certain subjects that you try to force when you feel as though you want to try to escalate? Do you have any methods (cold reads etc) that you find better than just ge…
/r/seduction16/01/18 05:03 PM
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I have no issues with that sort of touch, but it's when you need to actually move on up the ladder even when you aren't getting any IOI's that my issues start.
/r/seduction16/01/18 05:01 PM
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With direct, it's kind of pure numbers game and not 'skill' as such. She needs to find you hot for it to work. Going direct can get lots of people results, but I don't really consider it 'game' as such.
/r/seduction11/12/17 03:26 PM
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I do think that a lot of the time, people mistake 'game' for good looks/instant attraction. Even with certain infields from people like Max or Alex where they sell it as 'invisible game'/natural game, it's really just not game at all. It's having a conversation with a girl and escalating. That's fine, but she'll only accept your escalation if she's attracted to you. Without their good looks, it wouldn't work. In some of Max's infields, girls open HIM, tell him he's cute etc, he bangs them, and t…
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:39 PM
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Interesting discussion between you two here! I might have to start a thread on this, because I can related to what both of you are saying. Jester, can you give me an idea of a typical approach in a bar? You just walk up, tell her she's hot, and then play with that subject or something? You say your results are good, but then I guess that means you're very good looking and since i'm fairly ugly, so I obviously can't expect success from going direct, but i'm still interested. And like you, I also …
/r/seduction07/12/17 03:10 PM
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Would this be good questions for as the first things to say after you open a girl at a bar aswell? I know we're not supposed to ask the boring name/age/what do you do/how's you night going questions after you open, so would these be better after the open?
/r/seduction23/11/17 10:03 AM
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can you give me some examples of what I should say after the open then? Better questions? All I've seen written here is that asking name/age/what they are up too etc is 'boring' so i'm looking for the 'correct' stuff to give me idea. thanks
/r/seduction22/11/17 06:46 PM
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yes. I know. Hence my Opening post. I'm asking for 'good' questions too ask that aren't boring after I open
/r/seduction22/11/17 06:12 PM
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I think they fall under the category of 'boring' i'm afraid. I think the advice was that after you open, you must never ask boring questions (name/age/work etc) but 'intesting' questions. All I can think of is like what would you do if you won the lottery or what's you craziest experience or whatever
/r/seduction22/11/17 05:43 PM
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But that sounds like what the other guy done (just asked 'normal' things) but then he was told he had to not ask boring questions after the open/ What do you say after you have opened?
/r/seduction22/11/17 04:35 PM
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thanks. It's tough. The other guy was told that he was rejected because he bored the girls by asking them their name/where they were from/what they were up too etc I don't want to make the same mistakes, but the alternative (assumptions and 'out there' questions might be a bit weird? I dunno) I mean, did you read the American guys thread I linked in the OP? What would your advice be?
/r/seduction22/11/17 11:40 AM
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hmmm...In that thread the advice was that you should not ask 'boring' questions like age/name etc (in the link in my OP) after the open You disagree with them posters? And regarding assumptions that aren't prepared, most girls on a night out just all wear the same sort of clothes? (dresses) What else can I use to make assumptions in that sort of nightgame environment? thanks
/r/seduction22/11/17 10:25 AM
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thanks. I'm gonna use them lines as i'm out tomorrow. I just feel my friends will laugh at me if they hear me asking a girl weird shit after I open, but whatever!
/r/seduction21/11/17 10:11 PM
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Am I right in thinking it should be more Open (you look like you're having a good night) Assumptions (you look like you are into fashion or something 'arty' - You look like someone who likes to travel) Question (NOT BORING) - So, what's the craziest thing you've ever done? what would you do if you won a million dollars?! etc? I only have the natural by Max, and so i'mi used to seeing him just open by asking where they're from and then just doing normal chat as opposed to assmptions and crazy que…
/r/seduction21/11/17 10:03 PM
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Going back to this FR, the 2 sets where I was able to get a laugh or 2 out of the girl were both kind of lucky in that my 'white boys' openers is a canned line that I always use on black girls since it generally gets a laugh, and with the first girl, she poked me in the back with her phone which gave me something to 'riff' about. In the absence of the poking me in the back or the last girl being black, i'm not sure how i'd have actually opened and, more importantly, 'hooked'. Can you give me som…
/r/seduction06/11/17 03:00 PM
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Think i'm too scared of boring the girl, lol When I have interactions were I open them and then ask them those sort of questions, people tell me that the reason she rejected me is because I bored her with boring shit like asking where she's from, what she does etc edit: Although with the last girl, even though I didn't include it in the FR, I did ask her all of those questions since it was my longest interaction
/r/seduction05/11/17 08:17 AM
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Cool stuff. I'd say everything is good but you still have to figure out the nuances. thanks. What specifically do you mean in regards to the nuances in the context of this FR? cheers Glad I appear to be on 'the right lines' I've been at this for AGES!!! Not much in the way of results. Easy to lose hope. I sometimes think i'm incapable of learning, lol
/r/seduction04/11/17 06:52 PM
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You get a 99% on this FR. Warms my heart. Nice to know it was better than the last one So the only thing I'm seeing wrong is you didn't kiss her when you sensed the opportunity, then the opportunity passed, and she lost all respect for you (she even called you a fuck boy). Slightly confused here. I actually didn't kiss her on purpose as I thought it might be better to 'make her chase'? Also, the fuck boy thing. If anything, wouldn't NOT kissing her and stuff make me look LESS like a fuck boy? Oh…
/r/seduction04/11/17 06:50 PM
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hey there. A few things: The first one is that they say what you talk about doesn't matter, it's how you say it. I try to embrace that philosophy, but then I naturally ask them about themselves (name, age, work, plans for the night etc) and then, as you say, it bores the girls. The other thing is that, in hindsight, reading back my own FR, I agree that it looks boring. But in the moment, I never know what to say in order to NOT be boring. Do I need to memorize certain lines or something in order…
/r/seduction02/11/17 10:29 PM
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Can you elaborate on how to 'give value'? Is it about not asking them questions or something? You see a hot girl. Open her. Now what? what do I say in order to give value?
/r/seduction01/11/17 03:34 PM
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give an example of a typical approach - how you open, what you talk about etc to give me an idea of your 'attraction' stage
/r/seduction29/10/17 08:02 PM
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looks = bad Style = good Body = decent. I lift, but i'm not Arnie schwarzenegger
/r/seduction29/10/17 01:36 PM
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yeah, experience is good, but I don't think I actually learned anything. The girls just didn't really want to be approached by some random dude, I'm guessing
/r/seduction29/10/17 01:35 PM
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good openers for girls in halloween outfits and then good transitions to get a conversation going?
/r/seduction28/10/17 08:40 AM
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I don't think so, personally
/r/seduction26/10/17 06:23 PM
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not necessarily. Some people have brilliant jobs and lots of hobbies and a social circle, and all that good stuff, but couldn't get laid to save their lives
/r/seduction26/10/17 09:59 AM
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Thanks. I'll give this some thought. It definitely helps, though - you have a leg up over most guys, use it to your advantage. I didn't mean to imply that I was good looking! I'm not handsome at all. I'm short, big nose, bad hairline etc etc. I just meant that even ugly guys will be physically attractive to some girls as some girls have weird ass taste in guys! Maybe them girls are the ones that I ended up getting! :)
/r/seduction24/10/17 09:28 PM
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As long as you approach, you should be making progress and you're already ahead of 90% of guys. Thanks. My problem is that I DO approach and have been doing so for rather a long time now, although I really don't feel as though i'm 'progressing' It all feels 100% random as to what 'works'. At times i'll make 20 or so indirect approaches and get bad reactions each time. I'll post FR's on a pickup forum and everyone tells me I need to be direct instead. I'll then make 50 direct approaches and get r…
/r/seduction24/10/17 07:20 PM
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how about approaching some random girl walking towards you in the day or a girl waiting for a bus as you walk past her or something? Would be weird to be like ''Hey, i'm scrader'', no?
/r/seduction24/10/17 06:40 PM
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I agree, although pretty sure nobody would ever say the latter one! lol
/r/seduction24/10/17 04:51 PM
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fair enough. Some very heavily upvoted posts here recently advise strongly against it. I guess we'll all never agree :)
/r/seduction24/10/17 04:39 PM
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So you disagree with the general seddit rule about never telling a hot girl that she is hot?
/r/seduction24/10/17 04:35 PM
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yeah, good looks is like fishing with dynamite, lol. I actually have 2 friends who have both modelled professionally, and they get laid at the click of their fingers. But I can't rely on looks, lol, so try my best to use 'game'. Obviously if I was a male model, I doubt I'd have any anxiety
/r/seduction24/10/17 04:31 PM
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well, i'm just saying that seddit heavily advises (consensus based on heavily upvoted posts) that you should never tell a hot girl that she's hot. It's been said lots of times. Obviously some other PUA forums disagree
/r/seduction24/10/17 03:35 PM
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lol, same. Usually if I smile at a girl, she looks freaked out/scared that i'm about too approach her/or maybe confused as to why i'm smilling at her, and then looks away, lol
/r/seduction24/10/17 03:34 PM
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Personally I don't do tinder because a)I don't get any matches and b)I have no idea what to do on a date. I imagine it being like a very awkward interview, lol Instagram? Simlar. Also how on earth would that even work? I tried messaging random girls from facebook and twitter in the past, but just got blocked, lol I personally have only gotten results from the odd nightgame approach late at night for a few instant lays. Day game is way scary and I'm still not sure how to open and transition in th…
/r/seduction24/10/17 10:39 AM
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Oh. Still good going, I guess - although I don't really count tinder as 'game'. It's just all about your looks. My handsome friends literally treat tinder like free prostitutes and use it to get a 100% lay when they're going through a dry spell, lol - Whereas I don't get any matches(ugly face), so I cold approach instead. PS - How the hell do you pull from facebook? I've never understood that! You just message a complete stranger, tell them you think they're cute and after g a few back and forth…
/r/seduction16/10/17 08:04 AM
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Good post I fucked ten girls (from virginity at 20 to present day at 21) with the eleventh on the horizon. Are these all from cold approach? I don't know if you realise it, but that's damn good going. Maybe you're a natural!
/r/seduction15/10/17 08:35 PM
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Nice.
/r/seduction09/10/17 03:47 PM
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I reached my floor I somehow ended up with a number and plans for a date at a nearby restaurant, though she insisted on paying we're supposed to show our intent though and escalate etc, no? Isn't that 'chasing'?
/r/seduction04/10/17 11:02 PM
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I never met a so called james bond guy, who is cool and stoic and all girls are falling for him. It rather are always extroverted guys, who talk a lot. yareally (if you haven't heard of him, you should check him out) used to talk about how in real life, the james bone characters are NOT getting laid with hot girls in bars from cold approach, if at all.
/r/seduction04/10/17 10:33 PM
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It's kind of fascinating. For the people who are saying ''there must be more too it than just his 'confidence'' I do know what you mean! I also often feel like there's other little things that i'm missing I also know one or two people who are not particularly good looking at all, yet who score with the hottest young things with apparent ease. I guess in a way it IS ALL confidence, but that confidence manifests itself in different ways One of my 'ugly' aquaintances who gets laid is a guy I met at…
/r/seduction04/10/17 12:35 PM
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About 3 months ago I realized how much better he was than me. He could open and hook almost every set while I often got blown out - He seemed to never run out of things to say while my conversations frequently became stale. Can you elaborate about how he hooks and what sort of things he does different to you in terms of being able to keep the convo going? Being able to effortlessly keep them engaged and 'never running our of things to say' is one of the things that I kind of can't imagine ever h…
/r/seduction03/10/17 10:54 AM
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I just want one night stands. (not a date or a girlfriend) In fact, for now, even a makeout in the bar would be good practice, but this rarely happens unless, as I say, the girl is making is super clear that she's into me. i'm still not sure what to do in order to move things forward to achieve that goal in a smooth way once we've been bantering back and forth for a while and maybe even after I've made some statements of intent. Is the answer simply to isolate her from her friend and just cross …
/r/seduction02/10/17 09:30 AM
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