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Oh wow. Is she particularly dumb? I mean how much more obvious can she be? Hard next.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 02:51 PM
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Why would she post something like that (posted 2 live videos)? Was it public / available for her friends? If so, I guess she's just dumb ...
/r/askTRP21/08/18 01:24 PM
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It could work if and only if he could do that without getting attached to her and instead slowly demote her. Chances are, since he is posting here for advice, and judging by his post, that he is too emotionally wrapped up. So would not be able to execute your plan.
/r/askTRP21/08/18 01:23 PM
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Give a serious go at lifting, sounds like you are enjoying it. Will take some time but will be rewarding. Good luck. You can look pretty darn close to Zac Efron naturally - if it turns out you are blessed genetically. And there's only one way to find out about that - put in the work and report back.
/r/askTRP14/08/18 06:17 PM
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That's pretty good speed based on limited volume. I think you should either train running a lot more seriously (and you will lean out). I think based on your time you could increase you volume quite a bit, you obviously have decent form to be able to run those times. You will lose body fat if you double your volume running. Just build up to it slowly, add 3 km per week over a period of weeks. 25,28,31,34,28,31,34,37,34,37,40 ... some progressive build up until 50 km. Or - give a serious go at li…
/r/askTRP14/08/18 05:00 PM
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Out of curiosity what pace do you run at for those 25 km per week, how many minutes per km?
/r/askTRP14/08/18 03:23 PM
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Sometimes, but rarely you will get an admission. Depends on you and your frame, situation etc. Don't count on it, however. There is a lot more going on here than just her admission though. For sake of the children hopefully you are both civil with each other. And eliminate the drama.
/r/askTRP13/08/18 11:19 AM
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As stated by others, read the sidebar. Look at it, read all of it, and if you want, decide which part could be most applicable to this situation. But when you do internalize it. Think about it meaningfully and apply it to your life and what you've observed. "Am i just not her first choice anymore , will that aquantince get played until someone else comes into the equation." Yes, and Yes. "How do i deal with this situation" That's up to you. You can only control your outlook on these things. The …
/r/askTRP13/08/18 11:00 AM
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Of course, these things are a matter of perspective. You asked a question in asktrp. You have been given responses relative to the RP perspective. If you don't like these answers, go to the Blue Pill, Purple Pill, etc. What you just wrote can be argued from perspective as well. "But women don't give a shit about it when it comes to marriage" That's complicated and saying they marry for companionship (at least primarily or alone) is certainly not a given. That's just one example from what you've …
/r/askTRP08/08/18 06:00 PM
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She is because her SMV is lower than at say 23. At 23, she is most ideal for marriage, due to all of the reasons listed in the TRP. Too many partners, not as attractive, etc. (at 30 versus 23) According to RP, at age 30 she is settling for a beta provider. By definition, a high SMV RP man would be far less likely to consider marrying her due to her age - and again - all that that age implies. Thus, the man she does marry, at her age of 30, would be a lower SMV beta man who is so low value, that …
/r/askTRP08/08/18 01:12 PM
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Doesn't matter that it is, or is not anything to boast about. It's reality, and it is the answer to your question. (SMV at 30 >>> SMV at 23 for a man) "men peak at 28" In a word ... no. It's not just money it is status that increases, and also, very very likely physical appearance, style, etc., all continue to increase - again - for the aware man who is constantly improving. Sure, for some dope who does nothing, yes, it could be all downhill after mid 20s. But approaching from a Red Pill perspec…
/r/askTRP08/08/18 10:49 AM
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Late for who - the man or the woman? Many of TRP don't advocate marriage at all, period. Marriage in general is settling. You asked this question: "Why does the red pill believe it's "settling" to get married at an age that is the average age people get married?" At age 30, most women have lower SMV compared to age 23. At age 30, many men have higher SMV compared to age 23. So, for two people both age 30, the man is marrying someone who's SMV is decreasing, the woman is marrying someone who's SM…
/r/askTRP08/08/18 10:22 AM
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"they just suggest to me that no ones perfect and blah blah blah" Blue pill hamster. Regarding the past ... past performance and behavior is one of the better indicators of future performance and behavior. Would and you not agree with this? That's not to say someone can't change, but you have to be even more careful that they really changed. At that point, depending on the "degree" of their past, why bother? It indicates that you are desperate for this girl, for whatever reason. Oh yeah, and sto…
/r/askTRP30/07/18 10:56 AM
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I was wondering the same. Probably ties into the alpha provider as mentioned in another comment here. As he mentioned this post focused on dichotomy and not males that are gray in this sense. I'd tend to agree with you on the jealousy thing with AF especially if it's a recurring thing. Overall great post though
/r/TheRedPill11/07/18 09:32 AM
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myOne condoms - go on the website and see if you have condoms with enough circumference ("wide" enough).
/r/askTRP01/07/18 08:49 PM
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The first mistake might have been actually saying something. "Oh my fault. Sorry wasn't thinking." Sorry not a good word to use either. Might have been better to just back up the cart, saying nothing, and just give him a stare. Or if you want to push him a bit, just reply, key is in the cart / ignition if you want to move it. These things happen all of the time. Like most of the time we all drive in traffic. You aren't going to get very far in the world we live in today fighting every fight like…
/r/askTRP25/06/18 08:21 PM
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If you were an 8, it would not take 3 months of constant push pull flirting for her to agree to go out with you.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/18 10:36 AM
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Doubt she will ghost them completely. Will keep the attention going from them, and they are secondary to the 9/10 if there is a conflict in schedule. If the 9/10 drops her, or she loses the feelz for him, the 7/10 are there and ready. Her hamster will spin any rationalization as to why she doesn't ghost them. At worst (or best, depending on perspective), she'll keep them as orbiters and limit contact; no in person contact, etc. Could just be social media and occasional text.
/r/askTRP29/05/18 05:02 PM
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Thanks for sharing - the details provide a lot of insight. BTW, I am sure that she would eventually cheat on you or anyone. This one is damaged beyond repair. Just curious, you are saying she is an Alpha Widow. To the CC, or one guy in particular? I don't see who was her one Alpha, just more the general CC.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 10:03 AM
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Don't confront him, block her, and just observe his actions over the next several weeks / couple of months. Proceed with caution. Edit: she wants you to confront him - she wants the attention and the two of you arguing over her. Friend has a gf? All the better for your ex-gf drama game. Take the fun away from her, move onto more productive things and new game.
/r/askTRP24/05/18 10:05 AM
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Why bother? She is an ex. It's clear something was up, or, she just makes shit up to get to your emotions. Which is worse? Either is bad. As far as the "friend", just be careful, be patient, and observe. Maybe he'll end up with her, and she can be his problem. Move past these two, especially her. Keep him at an arm's length, for now.
/r/askTRP24/05/18 10:03 AM
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You can either do it or not, your choice. If you decide once again to give it a go, you may be better off finding a male friend that also wants to start lifting. Not sure if you played team sports at any point but having someone else to push through the daily struggle with can help at times. Eventually, you will not need it anymore.
/r/askTRP24/05/18 09:57 AM
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It may not be helpful because it's not what you want to hear. But it's probably the best course of action. There's no other way to say it. I think you actually know that you should stop, maybe you are just trying to rationalize it. You will end up wasting time and emotion on her, otherwise.
/r/askTRP23/05/18 08:09 PM
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In one of your responses, you indicated that "test results all my minerals/vitamin levels were fine". You should include test result details in the post, or list them below. Otherwise not enough information. May want to see a doctor otherwise, shouldn't be having this problem at 20.
/r/askTRP13/05/18 12:04 PM
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"If your only response is to hard next for every transgression--no matter how large or small--then you're going to have a bad time in life." Who advocates a hard next for every transgression? Not me. I agree with your statement, and as I wrote, something as important as a career should not be compared to dealing with plates. I agree with you, each transgression has to be viewed in context. A career versus a plate are two very different things. Hopefully we are all on paths to be making 250K or m…
/r/askTRP01/05/18 10:33 AM
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Why would anyone compare what a plate says, a plate, versus your career? Failing to see the comparison. Hopefully, your career is something that you put years into, investing in yourself, education, and skills. Versus a plate. The whole point she is extremely replaceable. The reason they are taught to push the big red button is because if you are a high quality man, top whatever percent, you can literally have new ones in a matter of days. Given that reality, you would not bother putting up with…
/r/askTRP01/05/18 12:28 AM
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said she didn’t even contact Chad Maybe she didn't. Maybe it is ebbs and flows. Do not try to put her actions in a rational frame. Maybe at that point she wasn't bored/stable/etc. Besides, maybe Chad improved in some way since then, etc. It may or may not be a lost cause. Guess you'll find out now that you are married. Welcome to hard mode. Proceed very careful, and obviously be extremely careful before you may have children with her. Like you better be damn sure she's way, way, way, way past re…
/r/askTRP01/05/18 12:19 AM
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You have only been married 10 months. You seem emotionally in control. You still may have an advantage. Please check your divorce laws. Given it is only 10 months you may walk away scott free. I'm being serious - you should at least be aware of this. I believe the laws differ based on length of marriage, state, etc. I am NOT saying get a divorce I'm simply indicating you should be aware of a government imposed time line. Wait until you have the answer to #1. In the meantime do NOT mention or con…
/r/askTRP30/04/18 08:56 PM
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What are her actions - how far have you actually gotten with this girl? Had sex yet?
/r/askTRP28/04/18 10:20 AM
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I see women 37+ in clubs, especially in vacation spots, and they're still hounded by dudes. They would travel far & wide to maintain the illusion of pre-wall-ness. Correct ... but there will be no commitment then. So basically a short fling or ONS ... then nothing. Alone ... just sex, nothing else. And that is even fleeting.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/18 11:27 AM
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Good points, need to think more about it. However, what are your thoughts on changes to divorce laws? If laws rolled back to how they once were generations ago making marriage significantly less risky for men, would you not expect more men to then marry women younger (no risk) and then women once married acting "in line" (they have everything to lose in terms of resources with a divorce). Granted I need to think more about it, but that is one thought that comes to mind immediately.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/18 11:18 AM
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Very well said ... lost feminism and motherhood.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/18 11:02 AM
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No, there is a difference between holding frame and when someone out right disrespects you. Period. You stodd up by telling the posse to mind there own business and also as far as her, sure you got emotional. What matters most is what you do next - which to me would mean nothing short of total complete contact being cut. No plate, nothing. No explanation. Over. Learn from it and move on. It is indeed her job to cut down the flirting attempts immediately. Also though, the guy was out right asking…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/18 11:34 PM
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Everyone here is pointing out how the bitch disrespected you. I bet it was obvious she was with you, you can correct me if I am wrong but I bet it was obvious. Thus, he disrespected you also. You may have lost your cool a bit - oh well - most people would. Good for you standing up for yourself and not backing down with this guy and his posse. That's pretty rare, nowadays actually. I say no plate, no nothing. Move on entirely. Cut all contact immediately. As said by another comment, that is the u…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/18 08:20 PM
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They are all different ... some can take more than others and, it appears to have no relationship with their height or weight. You just have to find out (or ask). Positions matter (angle). Other thing that matters is arousal (tenting).
/r/askTRP24/04/18 01:47 PM
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That's just the inner part of you; a child inside of you that hasn't died off just yet and believes in some blue pill fantasy world of love and intimacy. He won't quit easily - you'll need to fight him everyday. For a while at least. Take solace in the fact that you are very, very young and you have a lot in front of you. Enjoy it! Every moment spent worrying about this past girl is a moment wasted that you could be improving yourself and getting the next one.
/r/askTRP24/04/18 01:41 PM
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Yes, it will absolutely go away fully at some point. You were not married to her, no children together, there is no reason she needs to be in your life or thoughts going forward. It will just take some time, it will happen, months will pass by and then you'll think back to it later and realize all of the old feelings are gone and have been gone for a long time. Sounds like you are doing all the right things - it'll happen. Don't think about curing it. Think about becoming a better version of you…
/r/askTRP24/04/18 09:40 AM
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Don't not respond to this in any way, or brush it it off with a simple one liner like you did. More important is your face / expression and tone when you say this - your own subtle reaction. If you've internalized things on the sidebar, this will come naturally. She may be trying to force some mate guarding reaction out of you - for you to show how much you "love" her and such. This isn't news to you anyway, you know men must hit on her. You also have no proof either way (I assume) that she does…
/r/askTRP19/04/18 02:56 PM
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Sure ask her again after a few days, when you are free. You do have other things going on, right? Messaging twice in row, asking again (or not) ... etc., it reads too much like an instruction manual. What's the difference in SMV between you? Can you get a feel for how much she's into you? BTW, you've had sex with her once? Like in one time that night, she left, and that's it. I wouldn't consider that a plate. Yet.
/r/askTRP16/04/18 05:58 PM
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The inconsistency in the posts you are making (for example now it comes clear that she did "see you" while having a blue pill BF long distance BF versus you can't imagine her cheating) ... this just indicates that you haven't internalized enough of what this is all about. You are letting your emotions rule you now. How emotional do you think you'd be in say 3 months if you learn that she cheated on you a few times over the course the LDR. Nothing wrong at all with continuing to see her, just pro…
/r/askTRP08/04/18 12:33 PM
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Stop getting offended. People took time to respond to help you. You are simply not ready to listen. Of course you can't imagine her cheating on you at all ... do you think most people can imagine their partner cheating on them? Let's look at what you wrote, in the post: "If I had of known about theredpill reality before entering I would have never let it get to this stage, but the fact is now, I have deep oneitis for this girl," Good. Do you agree that you are letting your emotions control you? …
/r/askTRP08/04/18 11:34 AM
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I do not agree with you. If she did that, she would NO LONGER be the average girl. The statement was the average girl had more sex than Chad - this statement is not correct. If many girls did that, than the n-count for the select group of men (Chad) would increase also. If you are saying one, average girl can have more sexual partners by simple choice, than one, average guy can, then yes, of course I agree with you. That's one of the underlying points the entire Red Pill is based on. Men are mad…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/18 10:36 AM
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Let's say that's correct. The point is this average girl does NOT get way more sex than Chad.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/18 02:55 PM
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Are there 10 alpha (top 20%) guys for every 10 (20~40 year old) girls though? The argument is comparing a small, select subset of men versus the average girl. Not the entire population of men. On the age thing, yes most men want the pre-Wall woman BUT wanting and what they actually sleep with are two different things. I am sure most women want men who are also at their peak (although yes, this peak will occur likely later in life and the fall off is less severe so effectively longer / more years…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/18 10:07 AM
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What is the n-count of the 1,000,000 women in this example?
/r/TheRedPill07/04/18 09:57 AM
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This can't be said enough. OP, please reread this every morning and every night. "Do not ever, ever, even consider taking this chick as an LTR no matter what she says to you."
/r/askTRP17/03/18 09:35 AM
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Then you are still plugged in. And you will end up being hurt in the end, and "breaking the plate." Get some plates of your own.
/r/askTRP16/03/18 08:18 PM
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Proceed low key ... you are one of her plates also. If you are okay with that, than it sounds perfect - FWB / plate ... etc. Understand most "plates" have their own "plates". What do you want from her?
/r/askTRP16/03/18 06:26 PM
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"What should I do?" "TRP has taught me to trust my gut, and I don't like what it's telling me." What has TRP taught you about having abundance? At your age, do you not realize this is literally the ONLY weapon you have? Which actually, you don't have, at all, as you are in an LTR with her, with no abundance at all.
/r/askTRP22/02/18 02:55 AM
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She has a boyfriend.
/r/askTRP12/02/18 05:54 PM
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The correct behavior is judge by actions and not words. However, in this case you got the truth (or at least a version of it to know not to LTR her and move on) ... so ... well done ... it worked out (this time).
/r/TheRedPill12/02/18 03:11 PM
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What about etonogestrel which I believe is in some implants? Opinion on this related to the topic of this thread? Thanks in advance ...
/r/TheRedPill12/02/18 11:34 AM
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Well at this point you are just an orbiter as you have not had sex with her. It is easy for women to get mens attention. Matter of life or death: read up on the term hypergamy. Also, as the others have pointed out, you need abundance. Build yourself up, get more female attention BY improving yourself. Don't take this girl so seriously. Enjoy the date, make sure you are doing something YOU want to do ... do NOT in any way sacrifice what YOU want to do tomorrow for her - whatever movie you see, ev…
/r/askTRP09/02/18 12:34 PM
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Any tips on getting rid of that critical voice that tells you to keep trying to fix things? Ignore it is best - as soon as the thought enters your mind DO NOT entertain it in any way shape or form. Be a man and don't go through "what if" scenarios. Alternatively, when that voice enters, remember your gut feeling about the PT being over there. And you also wrote "My GF lied to me multiple times". So there was other stuff. Every time the thoughts enter your mind, just remember the lies, the sight …
/r/askTRP08/02/18 10:52 PM
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Who knows - any girl is subject to the laws which we understand from the sidebar. She can and will do anything. However, his point is spot on: there is NO WAY she is a HB10. Maybe our scales are screwed up, I personally find it hard to rate women in that way. And the point he is trying to make is that the OP indicating she is a HB10 indicates that he (OP (HaveSomeChicken)) is way too wrapped up in this chick. It just further shows he (OP) is putting her on a pedalstal which aligns perfectly with…
/r/askTRP08/02/18 10:50 AM
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And what was it with this one?
/r/askTRP07/02/18 07:56 PM
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Since you are asking this question on the Internet, yes, you should just hard next. Move on. What I mean by this is you haven't figured things out enough, yet, to demote her to a plate. You did learn something from this though, I'm sure. Did you have a gut feeling about her?
/r/askTRP07/02/18 07:45 PM
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RUN!!!!!! Don't think twice, just RUN. From this girl. Don't look back.
/r/askTRP07/02/18 07:41 PM
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Actually, you can make cases where it does and does not help your sexual preference. Being sexually preferred by a woman may or may not correlate with your impact on society and your overall success. Plenty of "beta" guys have contributed greatly to society. Plenty of "alpha" guys that women may select as partners contribute NOTHING.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 05:19 PM
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First of all, you can't change what you did with her the other day, so don't worry about if what you did was beta or not. If you have to ask, you know it was. What you said about her showing her true colors is probably the best way for you to internalize this. You aren't married to her (thank God) and have no children with her (more importantly). So just observe and as you said let her show her true colors. You wrote she is a good LTR apart from this thing. That means she is NOT a good LTR. At l…
/r/askTRP07/02/18 11:43 AM
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Well said. What many miss but you have pointed out is there is a difference between how we evolved and how we live now.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 11:24 AM
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That's exactly the point. There are many ways anyone can have an impact on society if they are reasonably intelligent and driven. Granted, some will have more impact or more lasting impact than others, but even work done by Bill Gates or Steve Jobs is NOT done in a vacuum. It was built on the work done by others, and with collaboration from others. In fact, I'd argue if anything society is changing such that more than ever before in our history, ANYONE can have an impact.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 11:21 AM
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It is possible for one to have a lasting impact and have that lasting impact have nothing to do with reproduction.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/18 08:56 PM
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At this point in time, the way society is constructed, why do you think it is best for the species?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 12:07 PM
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Sure, that's fine either way. Texting or not. Stop trying to think about how you fucked up. Seriously: don't define your success by this plate. Find other ways to define your success which are (more) in your control. Sports, fitness, lifting, career success, etc.
/r/askTRP04/02/18 11:50 AM
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Find the right girl ... turns out they can't all do this.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:32 PM
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Not texting again: why? A simple text a few days from now or whenever you want to see her again costs very little. If she flakes again or shows little interest than she is looking for a little bit more, or just is no longer interested. Seems to me a text a few days shouldn't be a big deal. But that would be it; if she doesn't go for it, ignores, gets back late, etc. ... then you clearly aren't that important to her. It happens, wouldn't dwell on it. Way I see it, you have little to lose. EDITED …
/r/askTRP03/02/18 07:24 PM
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Don't react at all. Any reaction in someway is an indication of butthurt. It is NOT an interview it's a date. Also, depends on how long she was typing for ... quick text or email or what? What is her career/job/other responsibilities? Maybe this is just an early warning sign she is an attention whore who needs constant validation and that's what she was up to.
/r/askTRP03/02/18 09:56 AM
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She is a plate right? Don't over think it. She likely has plates of her own and that's the nature of the game. Or maybe she just wasn't DTF that night. "Thoughts on how I could have responded better to the "maybe?" No response to that, you or if anything just "okay"
/r/askTRP03/02/18 09:50 AM
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What value, if any, can she actually provide you? If you have tons of other options, she provides (likely) less and less value.
/r/askTRP02/02/18 08:57 PM
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The best one here is probably the one that puts you closest to the most real life, contact and conflict oriented situations. I only have experience with BJJ versus the others that you listed. But with that, you can be rolling with guys bigger, stronger, maybe more experienced than you ... gives some confidence and helps put you in situations where you can slow things down (mentally) and think logically when the time comes. (And breathe). I think that's the biggest difference IMHO ... you can say…
/r/MarriedRedPill02/02/18 03:30 PM
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Okay, I can't recall reading the sudden love thing anywhere. It could mean a million different thing, wtf knows. Could mean she fucked him and feels guilty. Could mean she took a pass and didn't and realizes you are the "one" (well, right now anyway). Could mean she would have and orbiter fucked it up somehow and then she took a pass. However ... bottom line trust your gut. You will have everyone here and in your life telling you a million different things. If you can't truly emotionally distanc…
/r/askTRP02/02/18 02:14 PM
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What is the "sudden love behavior"? Can you reference that one from where you read about it? Showing rings again??? On your question: no do NOT issue an ultimatum like that. Won't work. Do NOT marry this girl or look at rings, etc. It's simple: she disrespected you by seeing this other guy. The result is that is you learn she is possibly cheating on you, but at best simply doesn't value losing you. She thinks it is worth seeing this other guy (even if as a friend) versus the risk of losing you. …
/r/askTRP02/02/18 12:15 PM
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I don't understand how a "LTR" of 2 years and only had sex twice.
/r/askTRP31/01/18 03:09 PM
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Have you ever had sex with this girl?
/r/askTRP31/01/18 02:30 PM
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It will not clear your head about it. It will just drag you into an endless loop. You have to understand - you can't control how she feels or reacts or treats you. You can only control how you feel about things. Ask yourself why do you feel such a need to confront her? Why is she so important in YOUR life that you are worrying about this? You were put here for this - to explain to her why she fucked up? As you get older you'll learn time is a very valuable asset. Do not waste anymore on her.
/r/askTRP30/01/18 08:02 PM
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Exactly. You may want to do the opposite of whatever the female friend tells you.
/r/askTRP30/01/18 07:43 PM
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Don't bring it up again with her, and don't worry about it. You are way too butthurt about it. This is exactly why everyone here indicates that a GF or LTR is TRP on hard mode. Sounds like you are not ready for hard mode yet. Don't support it, don't show frustration, etc. Plan something that you like to do with your friends while she is gone. Don't even mention it to her, don't even make a big deal about it. It's not about her, it's about you. You do have a life outside of her, correct? If you c…
/r/askTRP30/01/18 11:32 AM
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That indeed sucks. Sounds like this all happened when you were quite young and vulnerable. With that said, you're here now ... keep improving and learning the true nature of things ...
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 03:11 PM
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Could you elaborate on what exactly your mother did? Serious question, I'd like to understand more about this. Thank you
/r/TheRedPill28/01/18 11:58 AM
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Yes, as far as the look part of it, if you workout and improve the physique and you have reasonably good looks, yes, it can last into your 40s. The "look". You can absolutely be in your 40s and have a better body than most guys in their 20s. That's quite doable , there are PLENTY of resources on how to do it. You may need to work on the internal part - the sacrifice required for that, and the whole game/social part of it and confidence.
/r/askTRP28/01/18 11:27 AM
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Based on the writing, and what you described, you need discipline. Plain and simple. You know what you have to do (not contact her anymore), now become a man and do it. Discipline.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/18 11:12 AM
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Good points. In those times, tribal times, life in a way may have been more simple. Now, a man may take more interest in exactly what happens to his particular offspring in terms of how said offspring develops emotionally, socially, and with regards to educations. Don't think there were nearly as many kind of choices in tribal times. It is one thing to provide resources for the child, it is another to shape how the child is raised. I think that "shaping/guidance" is more important today as we li…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/18 02:54 PM
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Because, there is a good chance there will be emotional turmoil as you try to do this. You are too invested. I know, it sucks. Consider it a lesson learned. If you think it sucks, just consider the scenario where you keep her around as a plate, she senses this and then plays games with your emotions. Convinces you she'll be faithful, etc. Pulling you into an emotional shitstorm with ups and downs. You want that? You ready for that? As you get older, you'll learn TIME is the most important thing …
/r/askTRP19/01/18 02:23 PM
1

But it did bother you when she said it, correct? Might have come through in your tone/facial expression. crux of the problem: you have invested in her by not being with other women; naturally it will hurt you if she has not done the same; you are questioning if she is/was/did. It is unclear if she is or isn't, you have some doubts. To plate her, maybe just slowly withdraw attention and emotionally move on. Might be too hard to do as you have developed some feelings for her.
/r/askTRP18/01/18 07:31 PM
2

At least you are aware of things now, whereas pre-redpill you would not be aware. "Am I the beta shes coming to for a relationship? (I never pay for her stuff on dates)": How soon was it she had sex with you, how quickly did it escalate? How is the sex now? How did you react during the story about the blackout - hold frame, or overreact? Did you push her for more details or just kind of play neutral / don't care? The timeline matters to some extent, if it happened prior to her meeting you she ju…
/r/askTRP18/01/18 06:40 PM
2

Perfect response. There are tons of ways to skin the cat - find the one that keeps you motivated.
/r/askTRP18/01/18 06:15 PM
2

I'll at least agree with the comment that some of these findings are unsettling ... I do think it's not conclusive in anyway but who knows ... unsettling is a good word here.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/18 03:12 PM
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It is there if you look and google a bit, but the conclusion from that article may be a bit misleading. From the study: "One of two women without history of having sons was also positive for male Mc in her brain and without neurologic disease; the negative individual had AD." There is a lot more there, if you are interested (to me very inconclusive). From that article above, some googling leads to ... https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/releases/2012/09/men-on-the-mind--study-finds-male-dna-in-wom…
/r/TheRedPill18/01/18 03:11 PM
1

Thank you, appreciate the response.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 03:20 PM
1

All true, just don't think any one of them is that earth shattering for a reasonably intelligent guy (and aware). Tinder: good photos, period. Escalate quickly from chat on Tinder to actual F2F meet up. Other points I think can be resolved simply by frame control and knowing what you want and who you are. Granted, differences, but I think a vast majority of it is covered by the prior work. I do agree you can have Tinder game, and improve it, but IMO not Earth shattering stuff.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 02:43 PM
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I'm personally aware of one. Even if I wasn't, I think for many it would not be worth the risk (perceived or real threat). It is simply a question of risk / reward.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 02:56 PM
0

Took a quick glance at the book and reviews. There are plenty of reviews that indicate the flaws in the authors theory - many of them align with what others have pointed out here. Appears to be not worth the read at all.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/18 12:51 PM
1

You are a 10 when in leaned out!??!?? I like the confidence, that's what makes it work!!! Seriously, I do think that 2 point difference can really work wonders. I think the numbers are somewhat arbitrary, never really fully understood them, but the overall point is you are a bit "hotter" than her.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/18 08:39 PM
1

What is the SMV difference between you and her? I agree with you, and am aware of similar experiences (for even longer than 2 years).
/r/TheRedPill12/01/18 07:19 PM
1

How long has he been married?
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/18 10:04 AM
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Not sure about books authored by psychologists, but on the Married Red Pill sidebar there is a list of books in general. It is Married Red Pill not Red Pill but worth a look. Rational Male is a good one about many of the theories - start there. I think if you start on the sidebar (reading some of those), and then as you browse Amazon you will find other similar books with RP theory via search.
/r/askTRP12/01/18 09:45 AM
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most women have no problem finding high quality men to marry. I think I understand your perspective ... however ... quality is a relative term. There are probably some similarities but differences from woman to woman. Since a man can only marry one woman, the extent to which a particular woman can find a high quality man will depend on her own value (to him). I.e. she is not punching above her weight. I don't think I view this the same way as you do. I view it as there are a smaller percentage o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:22 PM
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Exactly my thinking. Plenty of available girls out there without the worry of that.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/18 04:06 PM
1

That's very naive my friend, but if you wanna take that risk, I won't stop you. I will keep fucking married women simply because they get "bored". The point on judging is a fair point; thanks for pointing out. It is a little vague IMHO. The entire thread which stemmed from the comment about being naive - that comment (on being naive) is making a judgement about the prior posters ability to assess the risk in his marriage (that is at least as much "judgement" as the comment about winning). The ot…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 06:46 PM
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Friendzone? He's fucking her. He's not in the friendzone in this case.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 01:01 PM
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Do you think your response is adding value? In any way? Can you explain?
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 12:46 PM
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Okay - still talking to her = still wants her (to change) = beta. If he had said his peace, and then ghosted/cut contact and moved on, I'd personally view it a bit differently (not saying I'd do that, but I'd understand). Don't care enough to ask ... but care about the text on the 1 to 10? You either need to sleep with this girl or stop talking to her altogether. ;-) Sounds like she's in a place of need ... :-)
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 11:33 PM
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Well, what did he do? Did he move on or not? He made her feel like shit and then he moved on, didn't he? This business about telling all his and her friends (and actually caring about it) sounds like middle school shit. Caring about that is not alpha (not saying I wouldn't ghost myself, just saying). However, let's take your road: he ghosts her. What is she going to tell all his and her friends in that case? "Beta boy ghosted me and now I feel like shit" (Because we both know she will feel like …
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 11:11 PM
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Don't come back craving for love, that only makes you look bad and give her weapons to use against you, for example: "Look at what he said to me, he's an asshole" Did beta boy come back forgiving her? Or did he cut it off? Perhaps he just wanted to make her feel like shit, which if that was his objective, mission accomplished????? I mean, you said she was crying and came to you, scale of 1 to 10, etc. Question is what did he do after that ... ghost and move on or did he want her back? Do tell ..…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 10:49 PM
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Try reading the Rational Male. I believe the term is discussed there. AWALT means she has certain biological, evolutionary urges. She may cheat given the right circumstances. She may end up never cheating because the circumstances never present. I posted this somewhere else in this thread. A big part of this is to what extent you think a woman came overcome her biological and evolutionary urges. That is it. Everything else is pure theory and extension based on personal experience. The idea that …
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 06:52 PM
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Right ... so is that winning in the terms becoming a better man? More RP? More alpha? Giving you a positive identity as a man?
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 06:39 PM
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There are plenty of women that will be attracted to a married guy, just because he's married (assuming his SMV is high enough). After all, we understand that a part of the attraction for a woman is knowing that another woman/women want (or has) a particular man. Who knows ... maybe this played a role with the 30 year old returning student in the story that started this. However, yes, you will limit your sexual abundance and certainly variety. You can still keep your SMV high. You can still lift,…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 11:42 AM
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Once you live together you just gave up a lot of you bargaining power. As you wrote above.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 04:00 AM
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Yes it's possible she deletes it. He'd probably still know if any conversations are archived there, recent matches, etc. But give him the chance to find out ... they are not all sneaky - some are but some are dumb. Anyway, he may be able to tell based on her reaction if she is lying. Some are good at detecting this sort of thing.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 03:52 AM
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You know what ... there will be plenty of other Cathy's out there anyway ... if needed and in case. And bruising cervix's can be a good or bad thing!
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 11:30 PM
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I am surprised no one has asked what your testosterone level is??!?!? Good points all around. You are red pill aware and understand things so you understand a bit more about women and what to look for in terms of red flags. I think the question about age 50 is a great one, but, some do not want children period so in that case perhaps fucking random women makes more sense.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 11:28 PM
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By fucking the married woman, who is also fucking the married man (but yes she is getting his resources and not yours and can take half of his stuff), and she is likely also fucking someone else on the side in addition to both you and him ... is that "winning"? You used to word risk! You are taking a risk sleeping with a married woman. How do you know how the husband might react if he finds out? I mean, it's certainly more risk than sleeping with a truly single girl; or even a girlfriend/boyfrie…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 11:15 PM
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Regardless of marriage or not you always hope to not get sick or injured. And based on what he has described, it seems pretty unlikely she'd meet someone better.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 11:04 PM
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Me??!? Upset?!?! I don't view it as a sacrifice. I am merely pointing out what I view as the prevailing opinion here; which is the notion of this "sacrifice" versus what is best for a child. And that in the context of a child, marriage or as another put it a marriage like relationship is indeed best for a child. Period.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 10:59 PM
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Yeah, I agree it would, but you are essentially married at that point, I believe, in many states? Could be wrong on that, to be honest. Common law marriage or such? In any case, by living with her you may have limited your own sexual freedom then - can't have girls over. I don't think there is an easy answer here weighing what is best for a child versus true, raw RP abundance. Which is why I find this a more valuable discussion.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 08:42 PM
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Yes, it happens, but it's the Internet. There's value in these discussions, but you are right, some of the comments become counter productive.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 08:39 PM
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What? Yes there are examples, but come on now, on average this is simply NOT the case. Note the specific quoted phrase (note Lambdal7 said "marriage like"). Stable mother father duo. You could also extend it and say if the duo isn't stable that's also very damaging to the child.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 08:26 PM
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We are not! As pointed out by others, and I also pointed out, Rollo himself is married. He is a big part of the sidebar and Red Pill itself.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 08:18 PM
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I think it's sound; what you have described. Just curious - would you intend to live with said women (in your ideal, with child but not married)?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 08:16 PM
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So what are the new challenges? What dynamics changed in that time frame? I just don't see how men and women have evolved that much in a timescale like what you have described where game is different. If it's technology, I thought the message here was get her off of of texting, SnapChat, Tinder, etc. as soon as possible and instead to a face to face meet up. I am actually curious about it because I do agree with you saying the core is the same. I'd argue that solid core is all one needs, but man…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:55 PM
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You have less control over how the child is raised, matures, and learns.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:42 PM
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Serious question, the game has evolved that much?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:36 PM
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How does it hinder your progress? (note progress, not freedom).
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:34 PM
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I am also older; and share similar experiences to you and your married alpha friends. And have shared the same advice to my own son. Same deal with finding one like mom. For those of us that have been married and successful with it, clearly we have a slightly different perspective as it has worked. And would bet most of us inherently already were RP (lifting, SMV, social skills, career, etc.)
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:32 PM
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If you do it right (as you have described), and it is thought out and planned out over many years than it's also very likely said woman is of higher quality. Might be a tough sale without marrying her - she may require that. Doubt this happens as you have described very often. Agree about the other man - however I (and you) don't care about him (and his choices) we care about our own children with our DNA. That fight for time, influence and control over the child: pray it doesn't come to that, a…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 07:13 PM
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What will you do if the mother of your child then marries a man you despise, and said man effectively raises your child? Granted, you could get married, have a child, and then be divorced, ending up with the same problem. Just saying the way you have described makes the above scenario more likely. You aren't married, you are not cohabiting (is that correct?), you simply got her pregnant and she now lives with the child you see every so often? BTW, I am NOT saying everyone should have children, j…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 06:49 PM
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I like this response - how to you place marriage in terms of having children? For your generation?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 06:36 PM
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I do appreciate your response, but I don't agree with all of the analogies (Christian, corporate world, racism etc). Diverges a bit, I believe. On the sexual abundance / freedom to develop it: keep your SMV high. Lift, workout, etc. Dress well. Always continue to improve yourself. The idea being you don't need validation by having multiple options that you are actively gaming; you are a high enough value male that you know you can get these if for example shit hits the fan. I think another respo…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 06:29 PM
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Yes, I'd agree with that sequence. I don't think it's discussed enough here or elsewhere, at least that I can find. The concept of being monogamous / have a stable home for a child versus biological sexual strategy for males might transcend the RP versus BP label.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 05:59 PM
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We may have a different definition of reliable. Is unlikely to cheat reliable? Although AWALT do you think some women have more capability to overcome their evolutionary instincts - just like some men do? How about unlikely to cheat, said mate brings solid income into the household, is off social media, has no male friends, no girls nights out, phone is completely accessible at any time, doesn't disrespect, low partner count, and provides for you sexually if however you see fit. That sequence ab…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 05:51 PM
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A big part of this is to what extent one believes humans are capable of rising above their evolutionary instincts.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 05:18 PM
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I agree with you, a reliable mate is part of a stable household and marriage. However, I think there is a line crossed between that concept and the concept of a man's pure sexual agenda/strategy. IMHO children and wanting children (and thus the desire to find a reliable mate) changes the equation. If you don't want children/family, you may never want the reliable mate and instead may want to spin plates forever. Small edit: for what it is worth I am also older (I believe for this forum). 40+
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 05:16 PM
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He was and as far as I know, may still be. Which I find interesting as at least a portion of the sidebar is based on his work, correct? Apparently marriage is and can be a RP thing. Based on a sub dedicated to it (unless you are saying they are not RP men); Rollo himself; etc. I am curious what you think about children related to this, if you care to answer that.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 05:03 PM
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To answer the second question directly, being married makes it much easier to be a strong father than not being married. It doesn't guarantee it. If you are not married, it is significantly harder (not impossible, but much harder). To the first question; the point is children. And yes, I do think it is RP to provide the most stable environment possible for your children, which I think marriage does provide. One additional comment/question. Rollo is married, correct?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:48 PM
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Saying it is "pretty easy" to tell is a big stretch. In fact, it is pretty easy to hide this sort of thing. On the other hand, there are some pretty dumb people who can't hide it; for example overly protective of their phone, is one example.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:40 PM
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Yes, but she could easily be caught. Okay, MrsDietChad may I see your phone to see the app is not there? Who knows he still may or may not grant her the pussypass - but at least give him the chance to NOT grant her that.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:36 PM
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What if you want children, is it BP to believe that a stable household (marriage) is best for functioning children? Is it BP to believe that sons and daughters need strong fathers?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:11 PM
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Exactly right, shouldn't matter in either case. No fault is no fault.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/18 04:02 PM
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Abundance mentality as described by others. Cheating on her first - or spin plates is one way to do it. You either do that or somehow internalize abundance mentality. The other part of being cheated on is being lied to. Which no one likes, especially in a LTR. Accept that she could be cheating; not much different than accepting that many bad things in life can happen.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/18 12:00 AM
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This is all good advice. You are describing methods to prevent it; not to eliminate his fear. Two different things.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/18 11:50 PM
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That does sound a bit needy, don't you think? Or maybe a bit of ego or jealousy of some sort. She is doing something with her friends that she doesn't do with you, every 3 or 4 months. Sounds like she just likes to go out and party really hard with the girls every 3 or 4 months. Why do you care if she does this without you every 3 or 4 months? If you don't think she has a substance abuse problem, then it's more of a jealousy thing / somewhat needy. If, on the other hand, you think she may have o…
/r/askTRP28/12/17 08:43 PM
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Is she drunk to the point of lets say not puking but unable to say drive a car often or tipsy, often? You wrote 5 times in 3 years; but how about times where she isn't puking but instead just pretty tipsy? How often is that (with and without you)? I'm with the others, substance abuse is a HUGE red flag for a LTR. Usually it's some kind of underlying issue and that's why someone drinks that often, that much, and to that extent. As to confronting her, you first need to answer why this is an issue …
/r/askTRP28/12/17 09:54 AM
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Sounds like really good progress to me - keep pushing yourself and develop additional hobbies while you are young. BJJ (Martial arts), etc. - nice compliment to lifting and IMHO a bigger challenge (you can still lift). Get into those hobbies and expand on them, best thing for you ...
/r/askTRP27/12/17 09:09 PM
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How long have you been seriously lifting and paying attention to what you eat? Just curious as 138 is light even at 5'7" (IMHO). But you may just be starting out - how old are you?
/r/askTRP27/12/17 04:37 PM
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If you'd like to see the biggest red flag of all, simply examine the girls relationship with her parents. Which is indeed the ultimate issue here: how to raise a good daughter (or son for that matter) without being a good husband is pretty damn difficult. Go over to married red pill you may have better ideas there for LTR success.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 11:43 AM
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Likes attract. Meaning if you are looking for one night stands, sluts, etc., that is what you find. I agree with your points on intelligence and I think yes, generally those three girls you mentioned likely had supportive parents and a good family background. Despite AWALT, that makes a difference.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/17 12:34 PM
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Correct but the hard part, for many at least, is the kitchen. If you are in the gym already working out, adding a small ab routine isn't challenging. Putting the fork down is challenging.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/17 12:18 PM
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But the point is to fight the battle on your terms. Which is NOT an emotional outburst with a woman. Understand, women/girls manipulate emotions. Consciously or not that is what she is doing; a conscious shit test or not. Don't fight the battle there. I do agree with you, would not entertain that shit, but act like a man as you don't entertain it. Accept the fact that for whatever reason this girl/woman is disrespecting your time and attention. An emotional outburst or verbal communication will …
/r/TheRedPill23/12/17 04:47 PM
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Just a simple response, and then go do cool stuff without her. If you have a life that doesn't revolve around her, dread comes easy.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/17 04:40 PM
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This is absolutely the right response. The actual response he did was as beta as it gets. Here is an example of when he needs to internalize abundance. He should have been thinking, great, she isn't coming, perfect opportunity to find some new pussy. And once that's internalized, respond accordingly. "Sure whatever, have fun!" dovetails with that mindset.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/17 04:39 PM
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That's for sure! Besides everything else, believe around that time (2000ish or just before) laws changed such that you could just state the marriage was over, or irreconcilable differences or something. I.e. no fault.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/17 10:56 PM
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Honestly I'd guess 10 at age 35 is quite low. I thought 10 was around the cutoff from what I recall reading on statistics, but I am not sure how age adjusted that is. I read this before: https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/ I don't recall it discussing age. 10 partners at 23 is different (I would think) then 10 partners at 33.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/17 09:42 PM
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Well done on the interviews and walks. So the cycle repeats, with the daughter being a train wreck.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/17 09:35 PM
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Great insights here, thank you for sharing. Stay frosty ... Interesting on the low N count on the first girl (M or J?) Also, exactly how did you get the background on the one your were dating? From interviewing her on the walks or road trips - were those with the one your were dating or the one you were friends with? Are you feeling a little bad for the daughter (not your problem just asking)?
/r/TheRedPill21/12/17 07:39 PM
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Nope. End it now ... man up and end it. New job, who cares? Mess of everything, who cares? Seriously ... the whole self-respect thing ... end it.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/17 11:13 AM
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Self-esteem for many people is very fragile. I.e. does more attractive always mean higher self-esteem? Example, what about the newly RP man who has lifted for the last 3 years and seen gains but has to remove the low self-esteem from his past (if it existed). It's possible the HB9s that "we" may view as having a lower N count are just presenting themselves to "us" that way because we aren't Chad enough. Honest question: does attractiveness equal self-esteem for women? I've know plenty of attract…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/17 11:14 AM
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Keep reading the sidebar, if you haven't already. Read it, reread it. The books such as Rational Male and others. Some of your questions and topics are covered in there much better than I could convey.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 09:50 PM
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Well ... the point is you don't need anyone. It's about you not them. And as far as the starting point; just remember AWALT means all women are capable of this given the right circumstances. Some of this is how you were raised. Some parents do raise boys to be aware of this sort of thing. To be careful ... not too trusting.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 09:49 PM
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Oh, the typical pleading was the girl, not me. I simply no contacted but as many/all of us have experienced then received multiple texts, emails, phone calls, etc., etc., etc., from her over a period of weeks and weeks proclaiming how she was wrong and will change, will go to counseling to resolve her issues, etc. Also, as others have stated - I knew without reading anything. You just know. Reading it was just a final confirmation to satisfy my ego at the time. This was some time ago ... if it h…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:17 PM
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Yes, all of those things is exactly what I was getting at. It's about you always. You and your own standards and respect for yourself. Walking away means deciding this person add zero value to my life. Versus what you mentioned.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:07 PM
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It's a fair point. However, if taken to the extreme - which is what happens in oneitis - the guy will often think he has found the exception. "She" is an individual. "She" is different. Thus the generalization for some may be an easier avenue or first step to a higher level.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:06 PM
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Wrong turn: I believe MANY on this sub will generalize as AWALT. Thus the wrong turn. Also, on your prior relationships only you can speak to that, not me. I am glad it has worked for you. I can assure you there are other examples of similar circumstances where the gf told the bf certain truths but omitted others. Frankly, I've been in relationships with girls where I have been totally trusting and the girl ended up getting upset. Why? I wasn't jealous enough. I think you will find reading the s…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:03 PM
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At times, similar to the OP. Then ultimately walked away. No contact despite all the typical pleading and such. No contact is ultimately the only way. It's not about her ... it's about you and your own standards, whatever they may be.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 06:06 PM
1

Why doesn't walking have any impact?
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 06:05 PM
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Did you take a wrong turn somewhere? Wrong street, wrong part of town. Trust but verify ...
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 06:02 PM
1

I believe the sidebar material originally includes the idea of plating as a sort of first step to abundance mentality. Meaning for a beginner, plating is an easy way to promote abundance. A more secure man, with different (not better) morals may not need this. Or a secure man may prefer this arrangement of plating anyway; it's no one's place to question another man's morals with regards to this sort of thing. However, I do think the original intent of plating was for "beginners" to avoid oneitis…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 12:40 PM
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You can still get a lot of those even with a condom. Not all but many of those. You are still better off with a condom, just saying.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 11:49 AM
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Man who fathers the most children wins ... yeah that's when the whole biological imperative hits the legal "WALL" (for men) of child support for the next 18 years. If you think swallowing the red pill is bitter ... Plus you are likely putting the kids in a situation where they are being raised by a slut - how depressed you going be when you see the control of your kids under her thumb? Unless you got tons of money and can protect yourself financially, no, if you are that age already have at leas…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 10:46 AM
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You are attracted to women that are just like you. They are attracted to you for the same reason. Beyond the tits and the basic biology there is something more to it; IMHO, which is you are finding women "like you" in terms of their expectations for a relationship/partner. Why are you scared of being dumped and having no options? You can't be alone? Or find someone new in an instant? Or you need it for a mental crutch so you don't catch feelz for any one of them? Anyway, beyond theory (which can…
/r/TheRedPill11/12/17 05:25 PM
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"How do you analyse this behaviour ?" You don't. The point is who gives a sh$t what they think? Abundance. "What do you do in this situations ? " Amused Mastery, for me. Hold frame. "How do you prevent ending up in a sitiation like this ?" Why prevent it? Any girl that is "eyeballing" you is fair game right? Nothing happened to you, you'll be better for next time. Continue to step out of your comfort zone. Even Chad gets rejected now and again. Sometimes girls even can't believe Chad is talking …
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 11:28 AM
3

Based on what you wrote in your in own words, you think the she and this is a good investment of your time?
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 02:18 AM
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AWALT doesn't mean your grandmother did or will cheat for example. It means she is capable of that, or was, given the right circumstances. It's possible said circumstances never presented themselves, for a whole variety of reasons.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 02:20 PM
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Yup, certainly not a bright future based on that as a trial run. However, not sure the "system" can sustain that kind of result. It works because state dependence can function due to the fact that others are paying into said state. If that becomes more widespread, will it collapse? If that begins to happen, things will begin to correct (call me optimistic).
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 02:16 PM
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I think Original_Dankster provides a possible example. Although perhaps urban / impoverished is a better description. I am unaware of where this has happened throughout a nation / society in general; other than in "pockets" as Original_Dankster indicates.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 02:12 PM
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For some it is likely a protection mechanism. If there is a belief (or in your case example) that a woman can be as good as your grandmother, then 99% of men will "catch" oneitis with that special one (they will now know it IS possible). This is basically how many men were raised; they were raised believing the default behavior of women was like your grandmothers. It is easier (for some) to instead believe this sort of thing isn't possible; thus never catching oneitis. BTW, also I think this is …
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 12:59 PM
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Not sure about society wide, but there have been plenty of studies that show the impact on children living with their married, biological parents versus not being in that situation. Is that "family" (living in a house with your married, biological parents)? I suspect folks have varying definition of what family is.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 12:52 PM
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Good point. Or could be that the cuck (for whatever reason) doesn't have the 20 pounds and doesn't lift, but actually knows how to fight?!?!? Newsflash: lifting alone will not help you against someone who actually trains to fight. There are plenty of big guys that come into BJJ gyms ever day and end up looking foolish. I suspect the original poster knew enough about the cuck, but you never know.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 10:22 AM
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It is good you admit it, because we all like that validation (or at least feel it). So you speak for almost everyone. But you also know (I suspect) that you need to get past that validation and not let their attention affect you in anyway.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 08:27 PM
2

Assuming he is RP enough to not be stuck or broken up by the one that leaves.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 07:58 PM
2

Put your friend, who I am sure is top notch, in the right group of guys and he won't be. There's always someone more attractive. Sounds like you are doing good for yourself and crushed it and are happy in the marriage ... no need for it to be painful. The post is spot on though, shows just how easy it is for some (at least with getting laid).
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 07:56 PM
1

I was wondering why San Jose has so many top notch fighters (that gym) ... of all the places in the country why San Jose. Was just genuinely curious as I understand that is not a cheap place to live and there are countless options across the US that are likely cheaper places to live.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 11:28 PM
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Why do they gravitate to San Jose of all places? It's somewhat expensive to live there, no? Honestly just curious, maybe it's just inertia where a few top level guys are there and the rest falls in. Good luck on the pro career - sounds like you had a great journey so far.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 03:27 PM
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The less words, the better. All of the non verbal clues indicate (to her, in these circumstances, on that day) that he was intriguing and hot enough to fuck. Case closed. How do you get girls in countries where you don't speak the language? It can be done.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 03:18 PM
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You had a condom or you just went raw into this girl? Just have to put it out there. No worse feeling than finishing in a girl like that and then thinking the next day ... "what if". Did she have some permanent birth control (implant or something)?
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 01:12 PM
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Would never cheat because they can't? Yeah, that is likely one example of when and where it may occur. But those same chicks would still have that urge. The circumstances aren't worth the risk given their own market value (or perceived). Which implies they can at least weigh the risk / reward. Going back to the anger issue, from your earlier comment (about being equal). I really feel sorry for men that didn't have role models (fathers or some male figure) that didn't instill this stuff in them f…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 06:22 PM
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The circumstances may need to be so extreme, that for some women that they never act on their evolved biological drive. There are certainly women who have not cheated and will never cheat (due to circumstances which could include many things). Same can be true for men, even men of standards.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 05:59 PM
1

By pipe dreams, do you mean no woman is capable of resisting her biological AWALT drive? Or just very rare and thus rare enough to why even bother? Or?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 05:34 PM
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In both cases, man and woman, it is about biological urge, correct? And if they can transcend that urge, or tame it. I read the comment, "the woman who transcends all that you say is rare, but is out there" as simply conveying a point that while the woman will still have that urge, she may not act on it. We are, after all, judging them on their actions and not their thoughts. Although I do agree that if one expects this from many women, or perhaps in his lifetime any women (depending on how many…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 04:13 PM
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Thanks, that is how I have seen it described in the sidebar material that I have read. Lately, I get the feeling reading posts and comments not everyone understands and agrees with that definition.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 03:47 PM
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AWALT can exist with a woman that ends up never cheating. The urge may always be there but she controls it. Hasn't she thus transcended that biological urge?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 10:37 AM
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If you must have some relationship ... if you must ... you can't just be of higher sexual market value than her (you can't just be better looking than her), you have to also hold frame, and continue to improve yourself. The uglier part is one step. What this does (uglier part) is help automatically builds in dread. If you are playing your cards correctly and in a committed relationship with a woman, you are a "prize" / high value man (you have worked on yourself, have some combination of good lo…
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 10:23 AM
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Excellent response. BK20177 - you shouldn't be viewing them at all, or worried about how you view them. The biggest part of the journey for many of us is understanding exactly what you can and can't control, and not spending time worrying about the things you can't. There is no "good" or "bad" here; the only "good" or "bad" is if men like that irritate you - then avoid them. That is the only action I see out of this.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 10:04 AM
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Doesn't this then imply there is a sort of duty for RP men to then pass this knowledge down to their own sons? I.e. we need to be fathers which means finding an acceptable mother (not using the u word).
/r/TheRedPill17/11/17 03:00 AM
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I did read that story, just before reading your response here. The SMV difference among other things may have been key. Has rang true in my own personal experiences ... Kids can be great, if you can find the right mother and relationship that works (marriage or otherwise).
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 09:14 PM
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I wouldn't want gold or bitcoin or dollars in a world like that. Food, water, shelter, weapons, basic medicine, drugs/smokes/alcohol, and a trusted network of like minded friends. I was only commenting that I don't think gold has much value in itself. Not saying don't buy gold, or that it doesn't have value (it changes versus the dollar for example), but that gold in and of itself has little value. And that the dollar is based on the government's ability to back that dollar (or any currency). We…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 09:05 PM
1

Would recommend ART - Active Release Technique. Works wonders.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 11:47 AM
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How did the relationship with the first girl end? Thanks for sharing, enjoyed reading.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 11:29 AM
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At this point, how do you think bitcoin ranks in terms of the computational and networking power in the world? I.e. how much computing and networking power do you think has been put into this effort versus other efforts? Now, on one hand, you can say this is a waste. Those machines could be doing something else - sure, they could be if there was a financial incentive. On the other, you can view it as creating a financial incentive which is driving more development towards cryptography, networks,…
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 09:05 PM
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Oh, I think you missed my point, or I didn't make it clear. My point is it encourages efficient power. It puts a direct correlation on how well the computation can be done - via design of high end processor solutions / ASIC solutions AND also efficiently designing said solution w.r.t to power consumption. Clear?
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 07:48 PM
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Correct we don't need it to have a decentralized system. But the point is it removes humans from making decisions about currency. Okay on gold, we can argue that however I agree it has some intrinsic value but I don't think it has NEARLY the value that is portrayed. Jewelry? Coins or bars? In the apocalypse do you think gold will have any value? I sure don't. Not saying BTC will either btw. Food, water, shelter, weapons, perhaps alcohol/drugs/smokes, that will have far more value for basic trade…
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 07:45 PM
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So? The dollar in your pocket right now has as much value as the faith that you put into your government. Some people have less faith in a centralized currency than others. Perhaps BTC or other crytocurrencies have gained acceptance as various governments have nearly collapsed or run their economies into the shitter. BTC has value in it being rare and being accepted by merchants.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 06:09 PM
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Correct, well, some of the stuff in the OP was over the top. But things could change drastically (IMO) with just: Far less entitlement programs. Divorce laws changing to what they were in Marriage 1.0. Suddenly being a provider is FAR more valuable to a woman. She can't be a single mother anymore, no free birth control, if she does get married has to work to keep BB happy (or he'll divorce her with nothing to lose), etc. Just two simple changes - bam - back to "normal".
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 04:48 PM
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It's value is purely based on rarity. Which bitcoin has. Yes, it can be used in industrialized processes, but not to the extent that you appear to be portraying in your response. Gold has also had it's share of bubble. You can make the same argument for bitcoin: producing bitcoin encourages more efficient power in the data center and in semiconductor process. Which has application across FAR MORE applications than gold.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 04:45 PM
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And???? I am not talking about enforcing a law. I am talking about simply changing it via the will of the people.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 03:28 PM
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Okay ... couldn't all of this happen by just removing government handouts? Just a thought ... but if that happened maybe the government wouldn't be so wrecked, and there would be far less incentive for a decentralized currency. Meanwhile, yes, to some extent those (women) without means to earn capital would need provider men a lot more. You'd also need divorce laws to change such that women can't have half of a man's stuff also. These two things happening (less handouts, more reasonable divorce …
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 11:30 AM
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Not an owner of BTC, but out of curiosity read up on it a few weeks ago after the media buzz. It is likely a bubble now. However with that being said, IMO what is good about it / it's purpose: it decentralizes currency. Mining it requires specialized technology design and a push towards more efficient power (it's very power intensive). I view that as a good thing as well, but that's arguable. Also when you talk about fiat currency, don't forgot many governments around the world are totally fucke…
/r/TheRedPill15/11/17 11:27 AM
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Yes but the instant fix or validation from social media will always be there. Very addicting. Versus say years ago when there was no such option. My point about the law is simple: all that really needs to happen is a simple changing of divorce laws. How would the RedPill change if for example you could marry a woman without fear of divorce rape? If you knew that if she cheated, you could simply unload her and move on? If you knew she wouldn't automatically have custody of the children? I'd say c…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 10:14 AM
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All good points, thank you for responding. On your last two sentences, laws can change; but the influence of tech is likely unstoppable (social media).
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 01:33 AM
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Yes, that's about right. I think Rollo listed 95% in one of his writings.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 01:30 AM
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Thanks, you've got the bases all covered as far as I can tell. The validation thing is something I've noticed more with the younger (35 and under) crowd.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/17 01:28 AM
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Better Fathers - needs to start young with more dominant father figure that is RP aware. Oh wait ... that would require father being in the life of the boy, meaning he'd likely be married or in LTR. Shit - game over.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/17 08:41 PM
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What do you think is different about this point in the history of America?
/r/TheRedPill12/11/17 08:35 PM
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Should be printed out and posted somewhere to be read every once in a while. On point 6, would you lump needing external validation as the same as external motivation? I am referring to say the social media whores with overactive need for attention on FB, Instagram, etc.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/17 08:16 PM
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Not sure how old you are. Do you think this has gotten a lot worse in the last 10 years or so due to the increasing use of social media / texting / connectivity? I just don't think this kind of behavior (which I agree is rampant in 95+% of girls today) was as prevalent say 15~20 years ago. Not as many were entitled ...
/r/TheRedPill07/11/17 03:49 PM
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Pretty much agree but using the word impossible is a simplification, IMO. Absolutes like that should be reserved for actual laws of the universe absolutes. Not theories that are true a vast majority of the time. You can never be in her physical proximity all of the time anyway.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/17 06:13 PM
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Exactly. I'm starting to think it's just "easy mode" to accept it as "they are all the same". It's stupid because it could possibly be simplified (rather than having to examine each woman individually) and simplified to some extent to protect ourselves.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/17 12:43 AM
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"What's more cucked/BP than believing that and accepting it wholesale?" Yes I completely agree with you. I think it's some guys maybe keeping things in "Easy Mode" (much easier to cast a wide net then selectively trying to understand) and it could also be that likes attract. For example, having a girl as a plate likely means said girl also has guys plates - likes attract. Hard to lie to an honest man kind of thing. Thanks for your explanation - this makes perfect sense: "If a woman knows that se…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/17 12:38 AM
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"Keep yourself protected: Make sure she can't file false (or true!) allegations against you for whatever reason" Would next her after some period of no sex. Like days or a week kind of thing just so there is even less chance of this happening. Obviously she could still bring up allegations from days or weeks before but logically it would seem odd the longer she waits. It just more of a story for her to spin - not impossible but harder/more effort. "Don't listen to your dick or heart, listen to y…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 05:39 PM
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I still may be missing your point, but when I reflect on your response, it seems to me you created your own hamster. IMO, the hamster (for men or women) comes from not being able to deal with the reality of what they are doing. In this case, being committed to someone but knowing cheating on them; you are basically living a double life. Most people know that's wrong, inherently, and since they can not internalize it, they "hamster" it.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 03:35 PM
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You think cheating is fun? I can see that ... I'm sure most women who cheat in committed relationships feel the same way, as do many guys. Although I figure guys do it for sex women for excitement/feelz. My issue would be cheating while saying you are in a LTR/committed relationship. I just think cheating because you assume she is cheating (because AWALT) then what exactly is the point of a LTR? Just plate or never commit in the first place if that is your intention.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 03:32 PM
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Some of this stuff that you read ... it's somewhat self fulfilling. We criticize women for hypergamy - yet it is "us", the alphas, that they cheat with - we enable them. It's hard to criticize when you can't look in the mirror yourself. Carrying on plates that are married??? Seriously I get maybe some one night stand, you didn't know, etc., but for affairs like that to be dragged out? I pray kids aren't involved in those situations.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 11:21 AM
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Well said. A lot of this only comes with age and experience though, the words and stories only help to a certain extent most men have to experience this first hand and get there. Unfortunately, that could be in your 40s for most of us. Sigh.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:23 AM
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Yes, all women can cheat, but LDR is VERY HARD.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:21 AM
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Just ask yourself: Does she realize or know that you'd leave if you ever found out? She knows you won't rationalize it or accept it someway - she knows you are a MAN and will just leave no questions asked never to speak to her again? Does she think there is a chance you could find out? I.e. she knows you have a clue and are aware of things and aren't the kind of guy that gets snowballed but instead are somewhat cunning yourself and aware? Would her world / life implode if you left (kids involved…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:18 AM
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It is safer to not trust a soul and be wrong about that, versus trusting and being crushed. Just playing the averages here. Yes, of course it is possible she didn't cheat and you found a good one. But, chances are she isn't. Chances. Chances also are most guys aren't even prepared for that, without the kind of information on this sub. They would be blindsided. This sub is just saying always be on guard, don't get blindsided. I think the stuff about you as the guy cheating while in a LTR, is wron…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:12 AM
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Women are not loyal to men, they're loyal to themselves & to their children. Given that - which I agree with - do you think children and women's love for her children change he hypergamy especially if the father (who let's say she's married to) is a legit father/provider/etc. I think it's understated here how some women don't want to jeopardize that. They see their friends that are divorced and even though she got the money, kids are miserable (not in all cases but many - sorry divorce is hard o…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:08 AM
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The Dick in a Glass Case. That was 20 years ago ... or more ...
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:03 AM
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Point being: if properly selected, the fact that both sexes are spoiled for choice, is actually a benefit that can be used to enforce fidelity. Can you explain this more? And your first point, "Doing things right and still getting cucked is very rare.". Does cucked = cheated on? I think most women will cheat in relationships but without their man knowing - they do not want him to know. I think some women will cheat even if her man is doing things right. Cucked to me meant the man knows about it …
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 10:01 AM
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If you can fuck a hot side piece of ass, do it! Why: Because your unicorn doesn't understand the concept of loyalty, or so she is told. Agreed with everything up until that point. Live by your own set of standards. Cheating because you know she may cheat ... that's pathetic you need your "feelz" because if she cheats on you at least you know you had your side option. Just let that sink in for a minute. It's one thing to understand how many, many women operate. You should operate according to you…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 09:56 AM
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You have missed nothing, but keep your guard up. I have done exactly what OP did with checking the phone, etc. And in many cases found what he mentions, and in some (very few) NOT found anything. To be certain, get an application that can recover deleted texts. Pull everything off the phone in one 20~25 minute session with it. Then look at it all later on your PC. She may be deleting things. Also, make sure to check conversation with whoever you think her one or two best friends are - i.e. femal…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/17 09:52 AM
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Guessing English is not his first language based on some of the content.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 07:30 PM
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Well said, and also on putting the yung uns to shame. I think part of the issue in general with some of these topics are the age of the man involved. I think perhaps younger guys haven't been exposed to enough mid 30s girls. Yes, many of these women have lost it, and it shows. But some are just as hot as mid 20s - if they took care of themselves (fitness, eating, sleeping) and won the genetic lottery. They may be emotionally wrecked though, after too many years of riding the CC, at least for a s…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/17 12:10 PM
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They may hate women because many women are not able to overcome their biology. Not sure I agree with your description of it, entirely, but going with that MGTOW may view women as a waste since they are in fact too simple and biologically driven to be worthwhile of a LTR. Plenty of MGTOW pump and dump also. The hatred may be more that some men would prefer a LTR and children, but in today's environment it is increasingly difficult.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/17 10:25 AM
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There are plenty of girls that do hold it together (well said by Entropy) until their mid to late 30s. Problem is by that point they are EMOTIONAL wrecks and ticking time bombs. Thus generally not good for LTR. But they will STILL get the same rate of return on your original question of walking out in the street and saying who wants to fuck? But they can look just as good as many 23 year old girls. Let's be honest, just like it's easy for men to do well since the average man is so low SMV, the s…
/r/TheRedPill31/10/17 10:21 AM
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she will STILL need to find 19 of them disgusting, she will still need them to fight for her, she will still want all of the drama: I don't think she'll find 19 of them disgusting. She will fuck all of them, and let them all "date" her and then sort it out at some point ... or never. Or until all of said Brad's realize WTF is going on and dump her.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/17 10:17 AM
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There was a recent post on TRP about curing it. Just think of her fucking this Chad or whatever you have to do. Just think of the FB conversations with him - behind your back. Just think of how she lied to you, etc, etc, etc. Or go out and find some other girl - quickly (why you should always have plates). You are 21. I know it sucks. Trust me, you have nothing to worry about. You are 21! 3 month relationship. NEXT ...
/r/askTRP30/10/17 08:41 PM
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Don't confront her - just ghost her. I've done the confrontation thing in the past, it's pointless and honestly she didn't (and your ex-girl doesn't) deserve it. It was a mistake - nothing horrible happened to me either way but it was a waste of time and only satisfied my own ego. Lesson learned on that. It would have been more satisfying to ghost. I eventually did - girl went nuts like they all do (they hate it when we just won't listen, respond, etc.). Takes all their power away (all their pow…
/r/askTRP30/10/17 08:38 PM
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You were together, with a plate? Or you are saying she stated you were together but you never said you were? In any case, unless it's a clear LTR with some kind of commitment (Read not a plate), not sure how anything else can be considered cheating. I think it's obvious MANY plates do the same that is done to them - that's part of why they accept it (they also have plates).
/r/TheRedPill28/10/17 07:20 PM
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Or if she comes back and is all over you, she still may have cheated. Some things, my friend, you may not ever know.
/r/askTRP28/10/17 05:17 PM
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Let her go, say not much about it. While she is gone you "explore options". Prepare for the worst, observe her behavior, and possibly transition from GF to just FWB/plate. Prepare for the worst though. Don't get all butt hurt about her going. You are way too young to be worrying about this shit. If you aren't having fun with her, move on.
/r/askTRP28/10/17 10:57 AM
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Why is it that you must lift weights? What if you only do say running and MMA? I'm not against lifting if it's your thing but compared to the competition of say BJJ and then the cardio benefits of running, I don't see a comparison. (Competition of BJJ far more mentally engaging). Also going to add for some of us - we are already naturally big. Some guys have the genetics or history where they are already somewhat big. There are guys out there that can lift and follow essentially no program and g…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/10/17 10:47 AM
2

How did he show weakness? By not contacting her for one morning / afternoon? What if he also was in an underground area with no cell coverage or similar? He didn't show any weakness until after she hopped on someone else's cock - that's we the OP indicated there were missed calls (after it was all done).
/r/TheRedPill27/10/17 09:14 PM
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Not enough details; don't know history and his side. Possibly nothing wrong. Come on ... this is on her. She's immature and this is not the first time she's done this.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/17 09:07 PM
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How does a plate cheat on you (serious question?). She is a plate not LTR - how is she cheating?
/r/TheRedPill27/10/17 09:03 PM
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Yeah okay if he is that rich OR if a woman is that beautiful! There are some women still doing fine at 40 and can get the attention. Rare but possible. And there are some so rich they can't mess it up. Rare but possible!
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 10:34 PM
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She is very much like the rich son. Eventually, daddy will pass and its possible the son will run the company into the ground with no money left. That's his wall - she's hitting one now, he'll hit his also.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 08:04 PM
1

"DNA analysis shows that around only 40% of all African males ever born have reproduced historically (while 80% of females have - twice as many); 60% of European males have reproduced (to 80% of European females); meanwhile, in Asia, it's been nearly 1-for-1 in terms of males reproducing to females." Link on this one - interested to read more about this.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/17 09:35 PM
2

Yes, I agree with your statement about dick size and your mentality/approach to sex. Which is my point - you could do all of those things that you list AND still "lose points" (if you had a smallish dick) despite caveman fucking her. I mean if you do all those things that you list, the big dick is nothing more than just some bragging right to her friends (which she could lie about anyway - not like you are walking around naked).
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 10:04 PM
1

I am sure you are right. Which is even more crazy. Income to me makes more sense - and it's much tougher to lie about. There are plenty of income "tells". If dude was good in the sack but small dick she could simply lie or not even mention it to her friends. If guy has a big dick, and poor at sex she could do the same. Glad I'm an old fart that had his fun years ago. Well ... relative to many of the RP audience who i believe on average may be 15 years younger than me.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 04:48 PM
2

Okay, makes sense. Pretty easy to lie on that one though to her friends.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 08:58 AM
2

I think that's sort of bs If you are good in bed you're good in bed. If you aren't you aren't. What is interesting to me is there are two different columns for these, but height is NOT listed.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 12:51 AM
6

Why are penis and sex in two different columns?
/r/TheRedPill23/10/17 10:54 PM
6

This question MUST be answered. Also, needs to get a lawyer IMMEDIATELY. You have to understand your brother is not thinking rationally. You have to help him and think for him, he is your brother after all.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 06:45 PM
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I do wonder if laws and expectations around this will change. Privacy laws are constantly changing. She leaves her phone unlocked laying at the coffee table at your place. To me, it's like leaving a web browser open and surprised your SO viewed it. Or she leaves a love letter out (i.e. years ago when people actual wrote and sent letters!). If she is smart enough to keep it really locked down, and is always in possession of it, etc. - that says enough. Not talking about hacking into a phone or in…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 03:46 PM
1

Yeah, I agree, this guy sounds like a great conman. Men play this game also.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 03:41 PM
1

Locks only stop honest people? If you have a girl with a hidden, second phone, and you can't detect that said phone exists ... then she is either a plate and you don't care (and aren't around her that much) OR you/we/the guy is dumb (assuming they are in some relationship, spending time together, and he can't detect the existence of a second/hidden phone). Again, all of this caring about this bullshit is under the presumption that you are moving towards some kind of LTR. In which case you are go…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 03:05 PM
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This x1000. By blocking her you leave on your terms, and ignoring someone is the biggest insult of all. You've taken back all of the power.
/r/askTRP12/10/17 12:09 PM
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I would approach this the following way. The modern day young woman, the 21 year old girl in this story, is essentially still 12 years old. Or younger. Approach her and treat her the same way. How would you treat and trust a child? If you are looking for a LTR, she NEEDS an adult to set the boundaries, tell her what's what, but also give her the tingles/feelz and such. So you need to do all this in a position of power and command. Not giving a fuck and going your own way and being willing to wal…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:25 AM
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It's a fair point, and I think makes total sense in your 20s or early 30s. At some point you may want something with a bit more stability though.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:18 AM
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Yes, but it does make it easier to go out and use sluts for their intended purposes. You will get laid more. Just don't give a fuck, work on yourself. You can be on the other side of the coin if you choose to be.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:15 AM
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Well played. That is a good point. In all of this, you must maintain frame, balance, etc.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:12 AM
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Good points. I remember one case I saw this. I remember telling myself at the time, well, at least she isn't deleting my texts! (I.e. I saw that our entire text history and pictures and such was still there; whereas it was obvious other shit was getting deleted). Once again boils down to if she really wants some kind of commitment from you all of the phone and such has to be NOT locked down. If it is, then you provide no commitment and assume she is working on the b-squad. I used to call this ha…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:11 AM
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No, despite what people say this is possible. However, it either requires tons of luck or tons of ability by YOU to vet this, or both. But at some point you can find a woman that will "generally" be faithful to you. I write generally, she'll be as faithful as most men. She's at least sane. You'll find she doesn't need validation from social media, or 20 orbiters to text her how is her day going, etc. She won't need girls nights out, etc. Rare, but it exists. The more commonly held view that they…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:04 AM
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Approach this like you would approach a child. Would you allow your son or daughter free rein over their own phones? You are paying for it. You are not paying for the women's phone BUT you are providing her something of more value. Your time, if she wants it, she'll comply. Otherwise move along. Unless you don't care, and you are getting sex out of her and that's it.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:01 AM
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Not if she agrees to put it on her phone. Could that be the idea long term: modern day chastity belt. She agrees to put it on her phone because she is committed to you. If she doesn't, then red flag? IMHO, women have always been like this BUT technology (social media, texting) have made it far worse. Maybe technology can get us out.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 09:57 AM
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Exactly the point. That is a huge red flag and again this would be a long term relationship issue only. Also, if you are with her that much there may be moments where she accidentally leaves it unlocked. Maybe for example you are over for the night, she puts on Pandora for some music, she doesn't realize that keeping that running keeps the phone from locking, etc. I wouldn't bother again if you weren't interested in her for LTR. But if you are, why shouldn't you protect yourself? I know that man…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 09:54 AM
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Yeah, I could see that. Do you think dating today is not? How about being dishonest to someone you are dating? I have a gut suspicion that 99% of the time someone would go to the trouble to do what I am describing, there is a reason to do it. Case in point: OP observes the original incident. Which everyone does. GF is either guarded or you actually see her texting some guy and get the feeling it is inappropriate. You wait, and then do this later in time, possibly weeks later. Again, I am NOT tal…
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 09:49 AM
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Correct, no argument with your viewpoint, thus the "If" and "considering". I suppose for some, they feel the need to take such chances.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 11:22 PM
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Dude ... there is probably a real market for this. I am sure there is stuff out there but DOUBT much has been invested in terms of real thought.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 11:00 PM
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Perfect plan and the correct way to approach it. Do the gym or some form of fitness. School and work and fitness/gym is the way to go. Invest in yourself above all
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 10:58 PM
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Don't be shocked. It's just the way many women are today especially your age. Just be aware and as they say - two can play at this game. So now you know not to get too emotionally invested and have your own side fun. Men do the exact same thing. If you are 21 and single you should have 5 girlfriends anyway. Or don't - again nothing wrong with that either. Either way your choice. But at least you are aware BTW : do not contact her again. I mean it. You don't sound like you are ready for a situati…
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 09:51 PM
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Something like anytrans and then dr phone. NOT installing anything on her phone. Putting a cable on her phone and connecting to a PC. Use anytrans. Grab everything. Read some other day. Nothing is downloaded on her phone - you basically just backed it up on your PC.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 09:46 PM
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I don't understand why more guys don't do this. Look through the phone. I'd suggest a program to grab all of the data off of it quickly - like in 20 minutes or so. Can even capture deleted messages. If you are considering a LTR, this is no brainer. Would have been better if you could have done this, then you could have either toyed with her for a while, ghosted, or continued with benefits for you (sleep with her but no commitment). But I can also appreciate not even wanting to deal with that shi…
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 07:49 PM
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Yes. Vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 01:47 AM
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Yes, but looking ahead at your questions she does not hang out with them. I would say they are friends but friends that don't hang out or do anything. Outwardly I would not care. I don't think my SO would do this or at least let me know she'd was doing this; for fear that it would allow me to do the same (which she wouldn't want). If she did this, I would run dread. No, I don't. Early 40s.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 11:07 AM
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To hook up and bring home a random. ONS.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 10:12 AM
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Yeah ... but ... it can get ... less than amazing ... after a while. Sex with a new partner, etc, yes. Sex with the same person after being with them a long time ... it's not always amazing. Actually lots of ONS are far from amazing. It's usually that post ONS but say before the relationship gets long in the tooth (<6 months or so) stage where it is amazing.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 10:11 AM
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You are 21. Go out and bang chicks. Good for you that you understand MGTOW and likely RP truths, etc. Yes, for you, sex is really that good. Just keep yourself grounded, realize it's just your turn with her, spin plates, if needed, etc. After you have slept with however many is enough (whether its a handful or a couple of dozen or more), you may realize it isn't worth it. Yes, you are too nice if you have been with a couple of girls but not slept with them. I am not trying to mean to you, just s…
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 10:07 AM
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Yes, it can. But don't bank on anything, except constantly improving yourself and being the best you can be. Bank on that.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 11:29 AM
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That was the perfect ending to the encounter. Bravo! It was exactly how I was hoping it would have ended, as I was reading along.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/17 06:20 PM
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Agree 100%. It may say something that many guys who get blindsided by girls, are also the same guys to then insist all girls are like that. Many today are in fact like that, for sure, you have to do your due diligence and keep your feelings in check. In this case, this slut did this guy a favor - no marriage, no kids, just move on.
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 05:45 PM
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"Young quality women". Define quality. You used it after "young", which I could be reading incorrectly but implies you are saying quality relates to attractiveness. I think into your 40s you can continue to attract women roughly 10 years younger than you, even younger. Depends on how well you've aged, social status, fitness, everything else. In some regards you may be more advanced socially and financially making your more attractive. Being a father CAN BE rewarding but just be careful. Everythi…
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 01:26 PM
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I don't think having sex or not, with you, has anything to do with it. As well known now, the price of sex/pussy is VERY cheap. I'd be afraid she'd put you in the friendzone. It sounds more traditional, but in the past used to work because morals were different.
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 01:14 AM
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Yes, that's how I feel. Frankly more healthy in today's reality. I don't agree things were always like this. I think it is dramatically worse today than it even was 20 years ago. Well, let me just say I think the morals of say young women today is quite different than it was 20 years ago - on AVERAGE. I'm not commenting on men and their morals, for the sake of argument her just women. BTW, when you do this, and make yourself happy and fulfilled, and do all of the RP stuff like fitness, social, e…
/r/MGTOW24/09/17 12:04 AM
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No; that's really specific to you. At some point you have to have some kind of chemistry with her and be attracted to her. There may be other certain "specific qualities" that you care about. She's into fitness. She is or is not religious. She does or does not want to have kids, political views, etc. To be honest, again, what is most important in this equation is still you. Don't underestimate the fact that just because she flirts with you, is available for you, gives you some nice sex, etc., et…
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 11:57 PM
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I actually think the article is a step in the right direction. Frankly I am surprised how many people are simply unaware of these issues. Which I do believe mostly relate to social media, texting, the ability to communicate so easily with each other, etc. There are simply no morals today.
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 10:17 AM
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"But what if the price of freedom is loneliness? Would you pay it?" Wasn't that quote from a letter written in 1960? Didn't understand your response in the context of when that letter/quote originated. "lofty expectations" I think the point is yes, it is a lofty expectation to find NAWALT. Lofty in the sense that they can say NO to validation, hypergamy, etc. And that men can do the same, btw. Lofty in the sense that sex is SO easy to obtain even when you are married - if you can stay honest, an…
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 10:15 AM
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From her: would eventually look at her phone, very, very discreetly and would simply bid time and wait for a solid 20 minute block (maybe she is asleep, phone in the other room) and externally backup the phone (there is software to recover deleted texts, and in this way you can view all of her texts, calls, vmails, etc. after the fact). Some may view this as weak. No, not with divorce laws today and implications there. I am talking about doing this if you've been with this girl are serious about…
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 09:32 AM
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Honesty, secure (not insecure), a girl NOT on social media or if she is it's extremely tame (no validation seeking), at most a light drinker, maybe most importantly - strong father figure, strong mother figure. Those would be some starters. If you start with some of those, you can screen. However, you have to be able to do it without letting your dick getting the best of you - have to look at it objectively - that's the real challenge (don't justify away her red flags)
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 02:42 AM
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Based on what you wrote about the history, and if this is the first time something like this has happened to you, make sure you really do do those things. Because believe me she will reappear at some point (again) professing how wrong she was, she'll never do it again, and that she has changed. Understand - she is now dead to you. Wardrobe: you either neither to completely rebuild and amplify yourself (if needed better clothes, if needed better body (lifting, sport, running, etc.)). Or you can b…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 01:11 PM
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Glad you feel that way now, as in today. But she's probably NOT done with you and will probably attempt to reach out to you again. And ah, you probably are not out of the woods yet. There is no "ONE". This girl sounds like she'd be more than willing to sell you that story. Do yourself a favor. Block her from ANY way of contacting you. Text, Facebook, whatever. Don't look at ANY of her social media, or ANYTHING like that. Be honest with yourself that there is no ONE, you - you are the ONE. Basica…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 11:11 AM
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The best way to train is to train for yourself, because well, you actually enjoy it, actually enjoy the idea of doing something physical for some block of time each day! True whether its lifting or many other athletic pursuits.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 10:34 AM
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Thank you for your service and dedication. Maybe the situation is ideal for you, if you have the emotional support you need and another woman to satisfy your sexual needs.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 12:29 AM
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Sex starts way before you get to the bed or shower. Read my comment above about her being the emotional rock for you. Again, just in the spirit of advise and discussion are per your post.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/17 07:15 PM
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Sounds more like a friend though. Do you think what you wrote about her being a rock for you could have ANYTHING to do with the dead bedroom??? Maybe military life isn't for you?
/r/TheRedPill21/09/17 07:12 PM
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He may be back only time will tell. Some need to go through this before they overcome it. It being the BP programming and beta fantasy. Just curious, maybe you "hate" what he has done because you went through this, or know how easily it can happen to a guy?
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 06:31 PM
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No kids, and no satisfying sex. Why are you still married to her? What exactly does she provide you emotionally that you need (and can't provide on your own).
/r/TheRedPill21/09/17 05:46 PM
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Thank you! Yes, do it for yourself and regardless of relationship, you always come first. Be selfish. SERIOUSLY.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 12:12 PM
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The lesson here is ALWAYS be in shape, ALWAYS strive to be fit, strong, shredded. Whether it's lifting, MMA, some other martial art, or any form of exercise ... you, your body, and your mind come first. NEVER forget that regardless of relationship
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 11:40 AM
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Agree but if she's going to shit test you like that, and you are dealing with her emotions 10 times a day, AND there are no children involved and you don't want children ... what's the point of a LTR? I think I see your point - for you its worth it because otherwise you are back out chasing other girls. And I understand it's not black and white, maybe she isn't that bad. For me, it wouldn't be worth it. Kids do give them more power, for sure. For some men, and women, they also help provide some …
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 01:44 PM
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"I don't know what she really feels about it. I judge her by her actions, and her actions are to stay with me." Right - but her actions are things like she acts jealous or asks. Maybe I'm off but I'm equating jealousy (and asking some questions, etc) as the opposite of don't ask, don't tell. "Yes. 'Don't ask, don't tell' is women's default way of living." Not in my experience. I've seen lots of them get quite jealous as we've moved from a mere dating stage to more of an LTR or something in betwe…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 11:01 AM
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With age and experiences with women, it shifted to 'Don't ask, don't tell': as long as the woman is giving me what I want, I don't really care what she does on the side, provided that it doesn't interfere with my needs and isn't in my face. Let me ask you - she felt the same way? I.e. she did not care if you did things on the side? She also adopted a don't ask, don't tell? I do like the attitude and I've tried this before. However ... I kind of always felt like I could leave the next day. I gues…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 10:06 AM
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Is having children and family bluepill programming also? If you want to do what you've described, why be in a LTR relationship in the first place (unless both parties are cool with the other sleeping around). If you are saying LTR are wrong, no argument from me; I'm commented on the premise someone wants a LTR.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 09:59 AM
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Why does you being cheated on have anything to do with you cheating? You'll feel better about being cheated on, since you cheated? Why not just learn to control your emotions from the outset? Keep things realistic in today's climate, as you described. To me, it reads like you are using your own cheating to protect yourself from her cheating. I get that as a crutch but if you need that, you aren't ready for a LTR.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 09:56 AM
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Just be honest with your partner, right? Again, in the context of a LTR as per the original poster. I have no argument against exercising sex drive with as many women as possible. Nothing wrong with being single and having plates. And if it's a plate and NOT some LTR there is no need to get all deep or into feelings/honesty - keep it light. As described here many times. No need for oneitis; anyone who commits to a LTR relationship like that should have already decided that's what he/she wants. S…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/17 09:49 AM
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Complete psychological development relevant to this discussion: being honest in a relationship, being able to resist the sex drive that you reference. I would argue someone who can't be honest is not mature, not developed fully in that sense. I'd say being honest is pretty much a requirement for that, and success in any LTR. I would equate cheating to NOT being honest. With regards to sex drive, well hopefully that NEVER goes away. But the ability to control that urge is the difference (IMO) bet…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/17 10:36 PM
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First, agree with LTR for kids only. Yes, you need this for kids, a stable relationship is clearly the ideal with children. Second, you don't need a LTR for happiness. WTF is happiness anyway? As per all the sidebar, and similar topics, find meaningfulness in your life and CERTAINLY in the beginning of the relationship and prior to kids make sure you in no way compromise what makes you you. Experience with women to NOT need to check the phone but instead covertly pick up on tells. Filter these w…
/r/TheRedPill18/09/17 01:39 PM
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You used the term love; don't think that's appropriate here. I think it's being used very lightly. Most of the FR or posts like this or what any poster here refers to ... is in no way love. It's lust and infatuation, playing the game, spinning plates, perhaps maybe the beginning steps towards love. Loving people without possession and attachment - yes, that is love. You aren't going to find that with a plate and you certainly aren't going to find that unless there is a much longer time frame inv…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/17 04:57 PM
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That's up to the individual how they define the game. For me, each women is different and it's complex enough there are cases it's worth it, cases that it isn't. You win it by getting everything you want out of it and it's beneficial for you and it's not causing emotional stress. Understanding the dynamics is essential. The original poster points out a scenario which again, I can confirm, where a woman literally is 100% available to you, flakes on others, etc. Winning like anything - use logic n…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/17 04:30 PM
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Can confirm very similar behavior. In my case it evolved from hwe fucking around in the first 1 or 2 months after we met and then she stopped that. I also did not invest emotionally from day 1, also got the slut vibes so knew it was just my turn. You can win this game if you understand it. If you call winning it making her more exclusive to you, if you even want that. The checking of phone; I'm on the side this is NOT beta or weak. If she is that fucking stupid to leave information on her phone …
/r/TheRedPill15/09/17 02:25 PM
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