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because of societal ideals, gender roles, the medias obsession with "those poor white ladies" its a complex things, but its still shitty.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 01:03 PM
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yeah, i fail to see how someone who made nebulous false claims about innapropriate touching, wasted precious resources with lies about physical abuse, wasted police time, broke the law, hurt her child by keeping him from his dad, and acts like she is the one wronged. how she can suddenly be the poor victim.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 12:40 PM
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no prison sentence for sure, some counciling possibly and then more tha n likely unsupervised access to their son.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 12:37 PM
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i find it strange that this had no media coverage till the mother and son had been missing for a fortnight. had this been a father and son who went missing in similar circumstances, police and the press would have been working far harder and the publicity would have been far harsher.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 08:39 AM
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or retarded conservatism and flawed logic.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 10:25 PM
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yeah, i aint giving that asshole a view. he has said nothing of note or intellegence in his channels entire life.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 10:02 PM
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the guys party is a waste of time. any changes made need to be done by working with political parties who aren't considered a joke by most people be they mra or not.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 06:04 PM
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i wish i could pretend that this cost the lib dems my vote but that ship had sailed a long time ago.
/r/MensRights23/04/15 12:40 AM
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making money isn't equal to usefull ness or relevance. its become a joke of a site and something to beat us over the head with. seems to have become more clickbaity as time goes on. either way i don't get why people care.
/r/MensRights23/04/15 12:39 AM
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honestly i couldn't care less. avfm is no longer relavant, just the dying embers of a site which has outlived its usefullness and is plodding along to death.
/r/MensRights23/04/15 12:31 AM
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accuracy probably.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 01:36 AM
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i don't. i enjoy all aspects of my manhood, from stripping motorcycle engines to playing with barbies with my kids. i like that i am a man, i just wish more people would like us for it too.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 01:46 AM
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you make the assumption that anger is wrong, its not. it is an emotion, just like love, happiness etc, the emotion is not wrong only the way it is used. people use anger to change the world for the better or to try to burn it down. rather than criticising the anger, maybe understand where it comes from and why it exists.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 01:42 AM
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biological imperative, the inbuilt instinctual desire to spread my genes and carry on my lineage.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 08:12 PM
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i don't think the two really overlap, some people may support both or just one. its been a false narrative since the start to attempt to dreail gamergate.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 08:43 PM
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its not about a pussy pass, its about treating all drug addiction as a public health issue rather thn a criminal one, for all genders.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 02:18 AM
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but that still has its basis in punative law, i would prefer to see support systems available so that as few people as possible end up with addictions they cannot shake.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 05:09 AM
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in all honesty this law concerns me, surely a level of drug addiction that pushes you so far that you would still use while pregnant is a serious habit. surely it should be covered as a public health issue with support geared around that.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 01:32 AM
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in all honesty, i callled myself a feminist for a long time, was an activist and truely bought into the movements ideals and stated goals, but it slowly changed as i got older. as i got more involved within the skeptic community i started to learn about thinking critically, checking sources and being through about not just buying what was fed to me. at that point i noticed the failure to be rigerous or unbiased or transparent in the methods of collecting the data i had always taken as fact. it s…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 11:59 PM
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its seems irrelevant to me, beyond the legal and tax implications it seems to be basically a highly expensive way to be public with your commitment, commitment which could be better show to each other in far less bankrupting ways.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 08:49 PM
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in all honesty i have seen many conversations on here regarding gender roles, MOC, trans men and even sometimes womens rights. the main difference is that i see this sub trying to deal with problems in a practical manner, its less about nebulous ideas such as patriarchy and more about ideas which can actually effect change. though if i may point out, its disingenuous to say the way you have been recieved proves anything when you have had fewer than 8 replies to your original post.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 08:46 PM
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i never claimed that, i said that doctors agree that transgender people are right to be accepted as the gender that they identify as, biological sex is immovable but identified gender is important, it has actual mental health concerns when denied, but your just an inbred moron who cannot see outside his own view and cannot realise that he is wrong. i am done, go fuck yourself for wasting a few minutes of my time that i will not get back talking to a fucking arsehole.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 10:48 PM
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wow, i really have pitted myself against an intellectual titan haven't i?
/r/MensRights23/01/15 10:18 PM
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Meh, its a private company bigging up women to make them feel better and to buy into their brand and purchase their products. nothing wrong with that, if they want to do that then its their perogative. i only have a problem when they have to undermine ment to do that and this doesn't really do this in my opinion.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 07:27 PM
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except thats not the case, if it was fiction it wouldn't be recognised by doctors. we seem stuck in this continuous cirlce where i point out the facts and you say "nuh uh, because i say different and i know better than doctors and scientists". you are a waste of my time and a sad excuse for a human being. good day.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 07:23 PM
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yes it does, because its not retarded fantiasies, its an actual gender identity. you can choose to not accept that, and i can choose to write you off as a loser with no idea of how the human brain works.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:58 PM
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except its not, and you know that. anyone outside of quackery accepts trans people for the genders they present as.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:55 PM
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if you didn't ignore it then you decided you know better, medical agreement is that trans men are men and trans women are women.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:50 PM
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yeah, just like tit jobs and liposuction. as for being bigoted, running transmen out of the "club" because you don't treat them as the men that they are is bigoted.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:49 PM
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no, just the being in the right milennia arguement. your the one ignoring the research and scientific data as "freaks and trannies" so i doubt your logic is that well laid out.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:40 PM
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no its my "i am actually a member of the 20th century rather than victorian times" mentality.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:34 PM
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being trans is not a fictional identity nor a mental illness. its not considered either by psychologists.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:33 PM
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or perhaps it just has a slightly modern view of the world based in facts and actual reasoning rather than your "i said it so it must be true" mentality.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:08 PM
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sorry, its both, just not wanting to see that doesn't make it true. its the intellectual equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and running away.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:07 PM
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would look like others prefer to downvote this bigoted rubbish.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 02:49 PM
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womens right are simply the rights of women, and we all support that, feminism on the other hand is an ideology, it isn't just womens rights. feminism incorporates the hypothesis of patriarchy, deliberate historical oppression, rape culture, microagressions and the mistaken belief that it speaks for all the downtrodden in the world when it doesn't. womens rights are not automatically the same as feminism.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 02:42 PM
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its never going to happen, feminist lobby groups will argue that men will claim rape to get out of paying child support, just as they say equality in classification of rape allows men who rape to get away with it by claiming they themselves were raped, or that shared parenting is just going to lead to abusive men being forced into their childs life.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 02:53 AM
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wouldn't say so, just the usual misinformed, well meaning but misguided, full of hyperbole feminist young woman. really her channel is popular because she has a pretty face, nice breasts and people like her "OMG guys, this is so serious i may just cry" style of presenting any information.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 02:44 AM
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actually i think feminism sets the genders of the proletariat against one another, usually at the whims of wealthy or upper class feminists. i cannot see how feminism and socialism are compatable with each other, but feminism does like to co opt movements so i am sure they have their own bullshit reasoning for that.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 03:13 PM
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and this was all done without mandatory quotas, executive meddling or using bullshit to make it happen.
/r/MensRights01/12/14 12:30 AM
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surely this belongs on r/thathappened
/r/MensRights15/11/14 01:01 AM
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i agree, he showed throughout the movie that his honor would hold him back from killing innocents.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 11:45 PM
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i am not entirely comfortable second guessing the legal system. its what feminist have done for years and if we ignore the judgements of the courts then why should they? if his appeal see's his conviction quashed then i would feel more likely to be supportive of his situation, but not right now. right now he is a convicted rapists, all be it a rapist who has done his time.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 11:19 PM
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gonna need a bit more than that as a jumping off point for a conversation
/r/MensRights04/11/14 10:17 PM
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possibly, but thats not been my experience, working class guys are as varies as those who are in classes above them. drunk or sober, there is very little difference between the actions, but a big difference on how they are explained away. drunkeness is a leveller because generally everyone behaves with a low filter when they have had a few.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 01:44 PM
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to be honest i never see that, your as likely to get catcalled from a building site as you are buy boorish hooray henrys having a wee bevvy after closing a deal. perhaps its different in your country? but the mindset doesn't stop at street harrassment, its in every firld, the rough working class guy beating his eife, the low acheiver raping to feel powerful, the working class guy "feeling threatened" by his new female boss. feminism i littered with the idea of poor or working class men being the…
/r/MensRights03/11/14 12:53 AM
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kate smurthwaits comment actually had me thinking the same when i first saw them. the idea thats its not the lovely arty, middle class, late drinking middle class men we know, its those dirty shovel handed manual labouring types that are the bad guys. its another example of the class bias in modern feminism and continues to show that any socialist who identifys him or herself as a feminist is just kissing themselves. see also laurie penny
/r/MensRights02/11/14 09:38 PM
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not trolling, a genuine desire to hear your arguements. its entirely possible that you are right, but if you put forward no arguement or evidence then it appears to everyone that your arguement is based on nothing.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 08:51 PM
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as you have chosen to not debate my points i can only assume that you have no points. i expect your another person on here trying to force a movement into your politcal hemisphere rather than accept its political diversity.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 03:07 AM
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wasn't an attempt at humour. i genuinely meant it as an invitation for you to put forward your arguement and evidence.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 11:32 PM
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wow, so what i witness on here is contradicting you, rather than present arguement or evidencee you go straight towards insults and personal attack. was expecting better than that.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 11:14 PM
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you said you have no doubt it is dominated by moderate right wingers and libertarians. yuou should have doubt if you visit here regularly, there are a lot of people whi self identify as liberal, left leaning, socialist etc. there are also so many discussions about the politics of this movement which brings in an equal share of right and left. i have seen it with my own eyes on a regular basis.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 11:03 PM
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from what i can see there have been disagreements between paul and john about the direction of AVFM, john was fired and accusations have flown along with each blasting the other.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 01:46 AM
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i think there are more on the left here than you think, i and many fellow socialists believe that feminism is poisoning the left and are angered by it. besides, mens issues transcend politics.
/r/MensRights31/10/14 10:33 PM
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its designed to be shocking so that it stirs up controversy and helps sell the sites products. best to ignore it rather than promote the shitstorm.
/r/MensRights26/10/14 04:54 AM
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i have to agree with you, now that gamergate has happened i struggle to trust anybody in media.
/r/MensRights26/10/14 12:43 AM
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its nice to see somebody understand, and the feeling sorry is mutual, far too many on the right get tarred with the labels of far right or neocons when they are simply conservative, small or big c.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 11:15 PM
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it seems to be a regular happening within socialism and the left in scotland, sometimes the feminist points have some mertit but moistly they don't. maybe this will help those on the right realise that we on the left are not an analagous hivemind.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 09:15 PM
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i know its breitbart but i checked with the daughter of a friend at the uni and the story is accurate.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 07:57 PM
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i agree that seeking to stop it is the correct way to go, what i do not agree with is it being lumped in with gamergate when there are no links. there were no links with anita when she got her threat but it was linked, there was one troll account harrassing brianna wu but it became promoted as a mass campaign, and with felicia thee was no link . to link the attacks and gamergate is not only ideologically lazy it shows a lack of research, and beyong decrying it i do not see how gamergaters can be…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 02:16 AM
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i don't see the connection to gamergate with most of these sories, threats and doxes seem to come pretty much from a single account per event/victim. theres never anything to tie gamergate to the doxing or threats and its just a massive media shitstorm which places blame at gamergates door (see elliot roger being an MRA for context) she had been out against gamergate long before this during interactions on twitter and retweets of people like will wheaton and their opinions. i guess it make me se…
/r/MensRights24/10/14 11:41 PM
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i have to agree, i thought it was more a sexual disfunction because i didn't get off on it rather than a legacy of abuse.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 04:38 AM
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i used the scottish services which are better provided than the us (generally because they are free) but it can be hard to admit and it can be extremely different to even get a mental health professional to take your trauma seriously. i tried as a boy and was honestly told to stop wasting the councellors time, its only now 20 odd years on that i am finally getting any help at all.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 04:25 AM
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you have more confidence in the mental health services for men who were abused in america than i do.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 04:12 AM
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i don't know if this wants to make me cry with barely suppressed rage, or hide away so i don't have to consider that another boy may end up as sexually screwed up as i was.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 06:35 PM
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exactly, i have worked as a KP on a few occassions and had no bother regarding my hair, when it was down to my waist and shaved off. you just have to keep it in a hairnet and tied so its not a risk to health and safety.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 06:31 PM
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his crime was having sex with an underage girl while he was also a teacher. a woman may have gotten a lower sentence and thats crap but being male was not a crime he commited.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:37 AM
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true, but enforcing non traditionla roles on those who prefer traditional ones will be just as harmfull.
/r/MensRights19/10/14 09:31 PM
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i never go single issue on anything, even the idea of scottish independence whish is massively important to me cannot be the sole focus of my politics and neither can mens issues.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 04:53 PM
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a good point but wasted here, pretty much all the violence and threats i see are from people outwith the MRA, and as such will never see this. the only reason they are believed to be anything to do with the MRA movement is because of media slant and biased reporting (or flat out making things up)
/r/MensRights18/10/14 12:11 PM
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any attempts to rid the world of gender roles is bound to failure, a lot of people like to be in that traditional dynamic. that said its the forcing of gender roles on people that hurts them, men can be men whether they choose to be traditionally masculine or to be what is generally considered feminine. masculinity is defined by the man not by anybody else (at least thats how it should be). So, yeah. Guys like me should be able to wear tight pants and cute skirts and the like without consequence…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 11:59 AM
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they may regret pushing this if it shows that the threats came from within their own camp. its probably why the threats are rarely reported to the authorities.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 02:56 AM
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i was more pissed off about the fact that so many people disliked the video brought out the "this is why we need feminism" tweet.
/r/MensRights11/10/14 06:43 PM
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realistically, its likely that it will happen no matter which party you vote for. all the main political parties have their feminist wings. pretending this is a left right issue is burying your head in the sand.
/r/MensRights11/10/14 06:31 PM
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sorry but this just reaks of moaning with nothing to back it up. can you expand on this or is it just butthurt?
/r/MensRights11/10/14 06:27 PM
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this will be a short post because i have talked about this so many times. the allegations look shonky, but since so much info is either second/third hand or looks shopped. i am withholding judgement till i hear something more concrete before i get off the fence. if his reasoning behind this "prank" is supposed to be about educating people about sexual assaults against men, i call bullshit. i don't believe him. i think he saw the backlash and cobbled together 2 new videos in the hope of fixing, t…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 08:16 PM
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not an applicable comparrison, thunderfoot is specific to just stefan, he makes no comparioson or alludes to anything in the wider world. for someone who isn't supporting stefan your working damn hard to defend him when there is no arguement that does.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 01:51 PM
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except i watched the video he refrenced after i watched thunderfoots, and he was right.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 11:34 AM
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honestly, i have no dog in this fight, i liked thunderfoot for his science content and i had no prior opinion of stefan, but after this and i checked him out, the guy pretty much lives up to thunderfoots idea of a cult leader. they can both make good arguements against feminism but while thunderfoot comes of as smug, stefan comes off as a loon.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 10:59 AM
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except thats not true, thunderfoot attacked his though processes and ideology with logic and evidence, and the comparing him to a cult was IMO right on the money.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 10:18 AM
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"sexual orientation is a choice" and i stopped reading there.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 11:22 PM
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so basically, "the bad thunderfoot said a bad thing about someone i like" this is bullshit. people with criticisms are going to disagree, but please don't try and feild and anti thunderfoot (or molynuex) army just because you got your feels in a twist.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 11:17 PM
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simple, the feminist idea of patriarchy doe snot exist and its argueable that it never existed. just see typhon blues arguemen against it.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 01:30 PM
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seems like a police failure issue rather than a mens rights issue. i doubt many people would feel differently about this if the victims were girls.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 01:28 PM
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to be honest, i cannot comment on the recent allegations. i don't know enough to pall on the side of them being true or being bullshit so i leave that to the courts. as for this being "one video" its not, he has repeatedly acted in a predatory and deeply uncomfortable manner in his videos (lassoing women, handcuffing himself to people till they kiss him, etc) i think laci green is doing what she does a lot, she makes hay while the sun shine. she see's an oppertunity to be a large part of this an…
/r/MensRights03/10/14 01:22 PM
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neither, there is a historical and religious pressure for some form of purity on both sides, but i think individuals of both sexes can anjot sex or have no interest in it. i met guys who were asexual and women who had a wanted lots of sex. i don't think it breaks down on gender lines.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 12:51 PM
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way to contribute fannybaws
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:36 AM
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neither can i, i cannot imagine a time where i don't feel embarrased or ashamed, or even like i was somehow at fault. it weighs heavy though.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:22 AM
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i strugled to watch that, it reminded me so much of what happened to me, but i am amazed that he could do it because i haven't been able to confide in anyone bar the online world where i am anonymous
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:08 AM
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he's an ass, and when he was caught out sexually assaulting those women, he made two bullshit videso trying to keep his channel and his income. basically he deserves the scorn he gets, and he deserves more from us because he has made male victims into background noise because of the shit he pulled.
/r/MensRights29/09/14 10:36 PM
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no they don't, you guys have been working together on this whole thread, its not just me, its another user who tried and failed.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 11:52 PM
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i think it was either 2 people fishing or co ordinated trolls.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 11:31 PM
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more evidence than you or your buddy in this thread have come up with.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 10:10 PM
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can someone not one of these two click it, i hover my mouse over it and it directs me that the link is to the mens rights page, i click it and nothing happens. or alternatively you can link me to the end page of this chain so i may view this twitter myself. edit- i have noticed that your post history has a post thats not showing up on the actual thread with links to twitter, i guess it was removed, but its still has nothing about the women saying that they were okay or forewarned, its just peopl…
/r/MensRights28/09/14 10:08 PM
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you have no evidence just dead links. everything you say is just shit you made up till you prove it. clink your link it is just set to send me to this discussion without any comment attached, not to twitter, not to facebook not to anywhere. you are a liar and at this point a troll, but i am sure that you will be found out when others click your link. give me a live link or fuck off and don't waste my time.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 10:04 PM
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so you have nothing then, well i guess you lose and i win, and for those who doubt me i implore you click on the link and see what happens.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:40 PM
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no you didn't and you sent me a dead link.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:24 PM
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a link which lkeads nowhere, poor trolling or just an inability to admit they were wrong? place your bets now
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:24 PM
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having your ass grabbed without warning gives you no chance to make a decision.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:22 PM
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theres nothing there, now either post a link or shut up.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:21 PM
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the only other link on this thread is to lacey green, you are full of shit. now back up your arguement or i accept your defeat.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 08:44 PM
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no you haven't there is no link in this entire thread bar one to lacy greens video.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 08:43 PM
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true, but i could have been less of a dick about pointing it out, thats one of the lessons i take from this.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 05:52 PM
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Are you seriously trying to say that your statement isn't easily read as an accusation? its possible, the written word doesn't allow for nuance like the spoken word, but it was intended as a statement awaiting conformation or debunking. that could have been done in a more reasonable way. I don't either, but you have to assume, unless you state otherwise, that people will think you are when posting on this sub. Regardless, other people will read responses on this sub and think they are being made…
/r/MensRights28/09/14 05:48 PM
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i am beggining to realise that this situation was more complex than i initially assumed.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 05:04 PM
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i was a little in my response but i get a little frustrated at people in north america assuming that their way of life is standard. but i can accept that i should have been calmer in response.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 05:04 PM
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And now you are American bashing. This is an American university, operating with the American Greek life system. There's no reason for me to look at it from any perspective other than that of an American. for that i apologise, i was a little heated, but the point still stands, sometimes americans don't realise that the system is different in other places and as such foreigners may not understand it. The reason /u/locknuts pointed out that they were residential fraternities was important. The hou…
/r/MensRights28/09/14 04:59 PM
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or it could be that i am scots and as such have no experience of the U.S. college system. it could bee that i didn't realise that the houses could be part of the college. it could be that the majority of thew world has totally different systems to the U.S. and maybe being reasonable in pointing that out would be far better than that passive aggressive bullshit. but i guess your an american so you cannot see anything beyond your national bubble.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 04:40 PM
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hmm funny how its only been applied to places with no sorority. its almost like they wanted to shut downs mens spaces only when it couldn't impact womens spaces.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 04:23 PM
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except nobody believes that, his previous behaviour shows this idea to be debatable at best. the second and third video was done to help save his image after the fallout from the third one, and as nobody has yet given links to ther women stating they consented beforehand the original point still remains. be a creep get called one is fine, call a regular guy a creep for nothing is not fine.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 04:21 PM
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are sororities expected to do the same?
/r/MensRights28/09/14 03:41 PM
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expecting facts isn't the same as censorship.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 03:06 PM
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its only shaming language when its used to censor or put down resistance or opposition. its not shaming language when its used correctly.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 03:04 PM
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link that to me because i haven't seen it anywhere, no mainstream and none in the fringes where news like this comes from. you made the claim now back it up or step back from the discussion.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 03:02 PM
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links to where they said this.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 10:22 AM
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so to put it simply, you have no evidence the women were okay with this. if the women were cool or were actresses he would have diffused this in a second by having them speak. they did not do anything like that. my point about the men is that, he allowed sexual assaults on men to say sexual assaults are bad? seriously? the guy is a dick, he could have used a platform to speak out but instead he played into the hands of gender fascists and made mens issues out to be second place issues.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 10:22 AM
4

nope, he was pranking the women, though pranking at this time seems to be a synonym for sexual assault. the women have backed up his claim. i have yet to see any examples of this, i have seen him say it but he is an untrustworthy twat. but i am sure you will be able to link me to evidence that the women are saying they were in on this from the start (and that the men in the second video were in on it too)
/r/MensRights28/09/14 07:51 AM
8

it seems like a clumsy attempt to not lose his channel and fanbase, a clumsy attempt that also diminishes the voices of men who have suffered sexual violence.
/r/MensRights27/09/14 04:24 PM
18

i don't believe it, i think it was a desperate attempt to not lose his channel and all the lovely youtube money he has gained and hopes to gain in the future. i am also angry at him because his attempts at making "amens" will overshadow any messages about mens treatment in the world.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 01:04 AM
8

not really, its just been another example of pretending to care about men to take the issue onto a focus on women.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 12:48 AM
1

because it pops up in places like reddit, 4chan etc and then when people try to reply the threads are deleted, and its happening dozens of times an hour.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 12:26 AM
3

she is lying, its popped up frequently in message boards and comments. there has been masses of evidence of her lyinh that is constantly deleted from sites.
/r/MensRights16/09/14 08:29 PM
1

i think this has less to do with mysoginy and more to do with panic from the no side to recent polls. thats said i don't see anyone here buying it.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 06:09 PM
2

as a scot and a father dealing with social workers, i can agree with what i said here, the social services and social work in particular are totally unfot to deal with men or male problems.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 08:42 PM
0

i see them in here constantly, less often at the moment but its still constantly there.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 10:18 PM
1

i tried when i was actually a feminist, i was shouted down, insulted and demeaned whenever i did. i felt i was only there so i could be used as a number in political statistics. or it was the gender equivelant of "i have black friends"
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:36 PM
-2

i agree, they are two disperate groups, but TRPers constant attempts to recruit from mens rights or make mens rights about them means we get lumped in with those tools on every occasion.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:29 PM
1

sorry but thats bollocks, everyone should be able to expect that their property (intellectual or physical) should be safe from theft. breaches of privacy are never okay, whether its a lone hacker or the goverment doing it.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:26 PM
1

actually lots of times they do not agree with my worldview, i am pro gun, i detest sjw in general, and i think they make mountains out of molehills on occasion, but there is no other outlet with less bias.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 05:19 PM
2

trust me , it will go great till you reach the point that any findings you make disprove their world view. then your gonna have a shitstorm on your hands.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 12:10 AM
0

gender issues a lot of the time yes, but mostly they tend to try to be balanced.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 05:41 PM
1

in their defence they tend to be pretty balanced, its only in issues like this, or domestic violence and rape statutory or others.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 05:39 PM
15

i pointed this out to ana on twitter and noticed silence when facts were presented to her.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 05:36 PM
2

only if they are reported, but funnily enough these big bad threats never seem to actually be reported.......wonder why.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 05:33 PM
1

so the basic points are 1.the guy who was cheated on, gaslighted, abused, and by her own definition raped gets blamed. thought victim blaming was a bad thing. 2.any legitimate criticism is labeled as mysoginy and the journalism side of the industry ignores any arguement which does not agree with this derailment. go away and let us continue screwing up your hobby. 4.lalalalala i can't hear you. and then its almost an identikit article along with over a dozen others put out over the past couple of…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 12:10 PM
1

i can only assume that your intellectually barren philosophy has no retort to someone who will not cowtow at the first sign of criticism from you, shame really was hoping to have a larger conversation about parts of your post i didn't understand.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 01:08 AM
3

you do realise that when a woman rapes a man it isn't recorded as such because the legal definition of rape doesn't cover it, unless a woman inserts something into you. you do realise how common rape is in prison (an area where openess and reporting isn't just frowned upon it can get you killed)
/r/MensRights21/08/14 01:06 AM
4

Then you better stick up for your white girl sisters (I'm assuming you're white) when non-white Feminists talk about how they're annoying you know what they say about assumptions. You better stick up for white American women when I bring up my experiences as a woman from Mexico. sorry but you need to explain this to me. Tell me how my culture isn't any different from white American. it is different, but neither are better or worse and neither is more deserving of the limelight. Put me in my plac…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 12:26 AM
4

sorry but thats exactly what it is, its special snowflake syndrome, the oppression olympics and every tumblr stereotype rolled into one. i can support trans people, intersex people, people of all religions, races and genders, but they do not have problems more severe than me and i do not have problems more severe than them. work at everything or work at nothing.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 12:09 AM
3

sorry but we are not special snowflakes, none of us. we all have problems and though they are diverse and different, nobodies problems are more or less important than the problems of other people. Don't put cis men into the marginalized category along with intersex and trans people. (in bane voice) you think this gives you power over me?
/r/MensRights21/08/14 12:02 AM
2

its in the interests of the gaming press to make this a "slut shaming" problem because it focuses attention away from all the nepotism, sexual favours and the incestuous nature of the business. basically its better for business for the gaming press to make this a sex issue rather than a corruption issue because being outed as corrupt screws them a lot harder.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 11:23 PM
3

congratulations, i remember my long struggle to get custody of my kids. just remember you still have a long road to travel and it will have its difficulties, but also it beauty and happiness.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 11:19 PM
1

i label myself as an egalitarian, it covers the fact i believe in equality for all, i don't take specific tags because then you limit yourself. i put my energy into most things i can.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 11:17 PM
6

i would stick with male, i like being male and its all i am used to. there is no prefered gender, men have problems, women have problems, and everyone in between has problems. the biggest problem is that in the mainstream gender discussion only the problems of women are deemed important to the exclusion of men, trans people and intersex people.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 11:14 PM
3

well that was a minuite of my life i am never going to get back.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 10:55 PM
5

it won't work well with a lot of scots, "hen" is a similar phrase along the lines of sweetheart, darling or pet.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 10:43 PM
1

to be honest, this is one of the few mediums you could try this without it being grating, all sorts of weird changes happen in comic books, people pass their superhero identity on to others, people rise from the dead and jump across paralell universes.
/r/MensRights28/07/14 11:09 PM
6

its reasonably standard in the scots legal system to change murder charges to a charge of culpable homicide. its easier to prove and easier to get a conviction. its not a downgrade and is unlikely to change the sentence in any meaningful way.
/r/MensRights25/07/14 07:24 PM
1

sorry but i do not see why this is a mens rights issue, the complaint seems to not be about the father and more about a pro life stance and as such its more an arguement between pro life and pro choice.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:18 PM
11

thats my point, we quite rightly deny people the ability to mutilate their daughter based on religious or cultural ideals, so why would it be anti Semitic to deny the ability to mutilate sons to many religious and cultural groups?
/r/MensRights09/07/14 04:23 PM
18

i never understood why banning circumcisions is seen as anti semetic. any jewish folks on here able to enlighten me?
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:57 PM
1

disagreeing is one thing, but you have shot everyone down who offered any alternative to your opinion. you are doing exactly what you wanted to do before you even posted, thus making the whole discussion moot.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 05:46 PM
1

i think this is a bad move for labour, the "blairs babes" all women shortlist were in the majority total failures and very few of them remain in politics.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:37 PM
-1

now thats a sentiment i can support.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:35 PM
1

i am not chocobat. i am a parent and i have been in the situation you are in. seems that you are looking for validation of what you already believe so this whole post was a waste of time.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 04:28 PM
1

sorry but if there is an allegation made then it needs to be investigated and if found credible taken to court.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 01:02 AM
1

i have been in this situation and i agree with every word u/chocoboat said. its none of your business unless the mothers boyfriend has a negative effect.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 12:59 AM
1

so you think that the way to allowing everyone to voice their opinion is to stop those who voice an opinion you disagree with? i put forward an opinion, i never stated it as facts just as my personal thoughts. and i have used the phrase fishing expidition very rarely on this sub, please check my comments history to confirm this. that said i still believe that this sub has no overlap with the racist or white supremacist movements.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 01:17 PM
3

i tried, i stuck to the rules of the sub and got banned anyway. religious fervor cannot be questioned there i guess.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 12:15 AM
1

awwww, but i really wanted the kick ass boots too.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:51 PM
1

i'm not australian but i want to by a pair.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:51 PM
1

its an example of the slippery slope fallacy, but that said i can see why this would be a genuine worry in the states. the country is becoming more peuritanical and seems to be slowly forcing christian morays on everyone whether they are their beliefs or not.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:50 PM
2

maybe not on point but can i say i loved calling my kids pram a perambulator because it just seemed like a brilliant word.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:47 PM
2

i had a moment like this myself, a woman who went crazy about me taking a space i didn't need because i came back to my car without my kids (they were in the supermarket with my father) so i could get something. she cause so much of a fuss that i had to show my kids (18mnths and still in a buggy and 4 so not the easiest to sheperd across a busy car park) to the store manager and this women before i could shop in peace. its the same bullshit that means i could never find a mens lavatory that had …
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:45 PM
2

its just another example of why america needs to join the civilised world and have universal healthcare.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:41 PM
2

For instance - why is no one in this subreddit talking about /r/theredpill more? because the red pill has nothing to do with mens rights. its a totally different sub, its about conforming to current expectations and to put it simply getting laid. the only reason to discuss it more than the small amount we already do would be if it was a movemtn in paralell to us or was part of the movement. you seem to have swallowed the idea that both are the same, this is a lie put out there to discredit us an…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 11:39 PM
1

i have noticed about 2 in my whole time here. there is no overlap in goals or in membership, i think its either an attempt at trolling/ a fishing expidition by SRS or AMR/ a misguided belief by those sorts of people who believe us to be a right wing group as portrayed in the media, and as such the (wrongly) see us as potential allies. the two post i saw were heavily downvoted and criticised and were removed within hours of being posted.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 10:50 PM
1

What do you think being apart of the MRA means? it means advocating and campaigning for fairness and compassion for men and boys, its simple, no other ideology attached. What rights do you feel are violated? 1.male rape is genuinely not even classed as rape and if it is it is never treated as seriously by society, the media, and the legal system. 2.domestic violence against men is treated as flipantly as rape but theres even less support out there for male victims and no compassion either. 3. MG…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 10:47 PM
1

being a similar frame and look to the second guy, i actually felt my confidence boosted a little after reading the comments. that said, i know the relentless parade of toned six packed hairless guys that will be shoved down my throat over the next few days will put paid to it quick enough.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 10:22 PM
1

basically, shut up, do as your told and never question me. sounds like a wonderful way to enjoy a relationship to me.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 10:29 PM
1

and the example you gave was an example of it being misused, but it could work well if regulated. we see enough examples on here of sons being abused by single mothers, this could be an avenue for escape.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 10:04 PM
1

theres a difference between goverment help and totalitarian, and it doesn't just have to be one or the other.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 10:03 PM
1

i will take a little annoyance if it helps kids in crappy situations escape. that said, if it starts to become someone on your shoulder telling you that your always wrong then i can see it being very unpopular.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 11:54 PM
1

now that is an arguement. i do have a bit of agreement to this, it does have the potential to be abused, i just don't have a problem with a programme that is genuinely egalitarian.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 11:53 PM
1

so i guess it has nothing to do with mens rights, its just politicing. so you need to post an assanine response rather than a reasonable answer.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 10:08 PM
1

i would say that you are wrong and that its a service that could support parents and help out kids in abusive situations. that said it still doesn't seem to be a mens rights issue because it will be implimented equally.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 09:42 PM
1

what has this got to do with mens rights? i fail to see the connection.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 09:08 PM
1

this doesn't always happen, there are some genuinely touching portrayals of fathers on tv. they might be the minority but we should celebrate the positives and hope it encourages more positive portrayals.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:56 PM
0

its a simplified way of pointing out someone is a member of that community, it saves mistaking a lesbian for a bisexual woman or a gay man with a bisexual man. saves arguements so i can see the point to its usage.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:54 PM
1

please return to /pol/ they must be missing you there.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:53 PM
1

non3e of this outrage matters, every paper and magazine that has railed against her will be giving her publicity in the future. just wait and see which mag/paper pays her for the baby pictures.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:50 PM
1

i think there is, at the very least there should be some social services involvement because she seems to be suffering from some sort of mental illness.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:48 PM
1

we do live in a society where people try to conform, from living in denial to "praying the gay away". it can be hard to come out to yourself and lots of people prefer to fool themselves for comfort rather than lie and be outcast. as for other divorces, i doubt its that simple, surely the legal system of divorce is broken but peoples reasons for not staying together are many and varied
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:28 PM
1

as i said, theres still a long way to go, but it seems to be a lot more egalitarian than a lot of other countries.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:26 PM
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i have to say as a scot, we are pretty egalitarian in many fields but we have a long way to go when it comes to mens and womens rights. i think the fact that we are a little socialist makes a difference too.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:24 PM
1

relationships fail, and when it fails because one of the parties is gay or lesbian then it cannot be faulted on either party.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:15 PM
1

the comments on this article really angered me, a bunch of women turn up and make the whole things about them, if we were to go onto any article about womens issues and do the same we would be accused of derailing or mansplaining. the ultimate irony was a woman saying " Notice I said people there... Not man.... or Woman? Amazing equality for all.. it's all very simple really. RAPE IS WRONG REGARDLESS SEX RACE OR AGE" funny how its okay for people to do that when its tales of male victimisation.
/r/MensRights28/06/14 11:43 PM
1

thanks, i learned a new thing today. today was a good day.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 12:19 AM
1

calvinball?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 12:08 AM
1

damn, ....tosses a pair of nines.
/r/MensRights26/06/14 12:01 AM
2

i fold.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:58 PM
1

well i shall see your yay and raise you a woohoo.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:54 PM
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am i the only one who thinks that perhaps they couldn't get the required numbers for a protest and this is a face saving ploy?
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:43 PM
5

thats true, i guess i need to learn to be less cynical and celebrate the smaller victories too.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:41 PM
10

not really yay, there will be no sanctions placed on this judge and its likely to happen again when another case like thos comes around. and if she made this ruling in this case, imagine the damage she has already done in more average cases.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:35 PM
1

ah well i can see why it set folks off. red pill stuff tends to do that here.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:32 PM
1

never a term i saw used here before. thanks for the explination.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:03 PM
1

sorry, i did not see your other reply as it was not tied to my post. that said it seems like an overstep to remove things due to ideology, everyone has their ideologies and trying to seperate them from the individual is going to be a herculean task. also i don't like the idea of pre screening and potential censorship.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:02 PM
2

its hard , and i feel for you. i guess all we have to have is patience and wait til there is suitable mental health services available to us.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 09:56 PM
1

then why was his post not put up? it seems like a reasonable mens issue and i have been lurking the sub for a few hours and didn't see it.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 09:54 PM
0

well that says all i needed to know about that sub. i wish i had some good advice, but i am in the same position as you (afraid of women) but for different reasons (violence and rape rather than fear of accusations). i guess we muddle through and hope to get the help.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 09:46 PM
1

your post does not appear to be on the other sub.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 09:40 PM
1

hamster? what the hell does that mean?
/r/MensRights25/06/14 09:11 PM
1

you get idiots occasionally posting on here being sexist racist or anti equality, but they are downvoted to oblivion generally. assuming this is a group pulling things into one direction or another is foolish. post replies to them in the threads and downvote them.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 08:25 PM
1

i am talking about every post in here, its like a playground squabble and it now obscures any interest i had in the new sub because i don't know if i can trust it or if its just the same pro feminist bullshit i am used to . if its good then its shit that someone screwed it up, and if its not then its shit that someone started it but i am confused as hell now.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 08:08 PM
2

well its nice that people wish to waste our time with petty interpersonal squabbles isn't it.
/r/MensRights24/06/14 07:53 PM
2

this shit again? this has bugger all to do with mens rights, its just some uidiotic crap posted over and over again on /pol/
/r/MensRights24/06/14 07:43 PM
3

i don't think this is mens rights worthy, it is undoubtedly interesting just not really suited to this sub.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:53 PM
0

it was more an idea of being slightly cautious. there are a lot of us who can get carried away and convict people before they even get to trial.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 09:54 PM
1

i did, its traditionalist bullshit with a thin veneer of fun and sex. it argues that if you exploit the broken system then thats the best way to do things, i think we advocate for changing the system rather than using it to our advantage.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:09 PM
6

this right here, you cannot decry witchhunts then have one of your own.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 01:34 PM
2

not really, its just the typical alpha/beta bullshit and its mostly about sucess with women. i think i am a more complex individual with value beyond how many women have been on my dick.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 01:19 PM
2

not mens rights, just some bullshit from a 4chan thread.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:37 PM
2

its just traditionalism under a different name. it encourages us to conform to society rather than change society, it makes us build our ideals of self worth by the women we shag and the money we have.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:34 PM
4

i doubt anyone could say, rape in prison is massively under-reported so that skews things, and most rape surveys fail to include most ways a woman could rape a man so they skew things too.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:02 PM
13

because everyone has finite amounts of time, money and energy. we need to allocate resources to have the optimum effect
/r/MensRights21/06/14 01:31 PM
1

its gonna be a long road, but i am honestly very grateful for your support.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:11 PM
1

sorry, what culture are we flushing down the toilet?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:10 PM
5

i struggle with flashbacks, severe fear when it comes to women even raising their voice around me, i have sever problems with both depression and anxiety. its basically left me broken, and theres no real hope for any difference or change. any help i tried actually made me feel worse and its made things even harder.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:42 PM
1

its googles money, they can spend it as they see fit. if this was a goverment programme then i could see the outrage but copping flak for public relations seems silly to me.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:10 PM
3

i never actually saw a therapist. but went down 2 routes. support group, total waste of time, the group co ordinator seemed to be reading of a script designed only around the male aggressor female victim ideal. there was no consideration for the differences a male victim might have suffered and still be suffering. i also tried a councillor and that was a disaster, i felt ignored and treated as if i was wasting time that someone else could be using.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:06 PM
1

4chan- where reality waits outside.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:59 PM
1

this seems strange to me, in the uk two people of the same gender can be on a childs birth certificate as the parents. get with the times texas.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:56 PM
1

this is true, there are still people discussing mass shootings from 20 years ago right now. these broken and twisted people want to be famous and if it takes death and murders to do so then its a price they happily pay.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:55 PM
2

its heartbreaking to see this, those kids need their dads, and bullshit archaic laws shouldn't interfere with that.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:48 PM
0

i wish people would stop with the "patriarchy theory" label, it is too similar to bullshit creationist theory. patriarchy hypothesis is a more reasonable and accurate description.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:18 AM
1

in the same way that most positive discrimination works, 2 equal candidats are available, the male candidate is prioritised over the female.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:13 AM
2

the man in the article is a peadophile, you defended him. you misrepresented the severity of what he had done you then when brought to task about this , threw a massive and pretty intense tantrum. as of yet you have still failed to answer any of my responses to your original point. Fuck you, rape apologist troll. yes, i condemn the peadophile and say justice was served but i am merely a rape apologist? come on man, you can do better than that surely.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:13 AM
4

in my area of scotland, there is positive discrimination to increase the number of male classroom assistants.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:12 AM
4

i have no problem with this, its a private company and as such it can tweak its workforce if it sees fit. i like the idea of offering an incentive to try to entice people who may never have considered this as an option. its just as viable as the push to get more men in primary education.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:52 AM
1

and as of yet, you have attacked, insulted and mislabeled me. you have failed to answer any point i originally made. its like your bill o'rielly, angry for no reason, attacking without consideration and attempting to sound smart and failing. appeasement doesn't work, your right on that but engagement does. i have noticed the ability to alter the perception of feminists friends, socialist friends and people who just buy the narrative without thought. so i think my way does work.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:47 AM
3

yet another pointless response which fails to address the original point.
/r/PussyPass18/06/14 12:49 AM
11

i have to admit, i like a lot of moviebovs stuff, i enjoy his general politics , gaming and movie criticism. his arguements are usually well thought out and concise, but when it comes to sjw movements he seems to do no research and relies on what is spoonfed to him. will wheaton was already tainted now moviebob too, this is most distressing.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:47 AM
2

its a strange mixture of dislike/distrust with them because they are men, yet using their disadvantage to prop their ideology up. classic case of men only being valuable for their use to feminists? that said, i tend to see more and more gay men and trans men becoming more and more resentful or questioning of the feminist movement and the lack of positive impact it has on them.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:42 AM
2

remember its all about our male power fantasy and nothing to do with female expectations....either that or its blamed on gay men like it normaly is.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:51 PM
1

or in other words, "i cannot defend my previous statement so i will take this conversation off on a tangent to a point where the spotlight is off me".
/r/PussyPass17/06/14 11:46 PM
4

it seems that lad is another of those bullshit terms that can be twisted to mean anything , like the dudebro stereotype or the neckbeard fedora wearer. just another attempt to control out oh so harmful maleness.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:29 PM
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in all honesty, the lack of verification on this makes me believe its propaganda from one side or another. i think not getting over heated about something which could be a hoax is prudent.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 09:36 PM
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misleading title, she says she doesn't know what to label herself and if labels are even a positive thing. she seems to be a fellow egalitarian to me.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 09:32 PM
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and yet you reply twice to everything? hmmm seems suspicious to me. now run back to SRS or AMR and tell them how the bad men wouldn't support the sex offender like you wanted. arsehole.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:01 PM
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rooting you out as a troll was useful time for me, it discredits your fishing expedition and any quote mining you do. have a wonderful day.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 11:00 PM
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fine, enjoy your wasted time, your trolling has been attacked and your meagre attempt at a point refuted. you lost dumbass.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:54 PM
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my opinion that you are a troll stands till you prove otherwise, and your continued reluctance to debate just strengthens my view. and todays post on r/AMR is tomorrows headline on cnn, just look at the elliot rogers killings for evidence of that.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:44 PM
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i don't fear them, but i prefewr to spend my time helping men rather than being brought into constant "look at this mysoginy" bullshit.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:15 PM
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disagreement i can handle, but you have not honestly put forward one point to back up what you stand for, you have not argued, not debated and not supported what you think. you have basically sat there and thrown shit at the walls when anyone challenged you. that is the very behaviour of the r/AMR crowd. if i am wrong, explain why, win me over......or do you not wish to enact the labour?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:15 PM
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so basically rather than get involved with discourse you choose to spout gobbledygook and avoid the discussion. thanks , its now obvious you are from r/AMR
/r/MensRights16/06/14 10:03 PM
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yep. was looking for a house for a while, was on the local council waiting list for council accommidation. was passed over in favour of 5 single mums for the new builds because they needed it more, including one who had been evicted from a previous council house because of anti social behaviour.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:39 PM
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ah i see, your either a troll or on a fishing expidition for SRS/AMR. edit, i am not misrepresenting anything, your defending him whilst also misrepresenting the contents of the article.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:19 PM
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the imbalance in family/divorce courts the lack of services for male victims of violence and rape, and the inability or lack of desire for authorities to work on theses crimes. cirumcision.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 09:00 PM
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okay i will put it in simple terms he commited serious crimes and should not be able to avoid punishment due to the time it took to bring the case. i have concerns about other cases when someone is brought to trial for goosing someone 30 years in the past when the culture and rules were different. this case however is pretty cut and dry and your attempts to defend the criminal are vile.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:37 PM
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you do the crime you have to do the time. i find the idea of a guy who goosed someone 30 years ago in a differenbt time and culture facing the ire of this centuries justice, but its obviously more thasn a pat on the bum so i have no sympathy.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 11:13 PM
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hmmm, 2 examples on the same kind of paper with pretty much identical handwriting......well i guess we all pack up and go home, that there is a smoking gun.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 11:47 PM
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this has bugger all to do with mens rights and everything to do with the new puritan movement thats sprung up.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:12 PM
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this is insane, a combination of hate for men and hate for guns. both irrational fears.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:31 PM
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in all honesty it was a bit near the knuckle. but he's the kind of comedien that explores social issues by purposefully making his audience uncomfortable. its kinda strange that of all his line crossing comedy this is the only thing she objects to.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:25 PM
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Does the MRM address trans men and trans issues? Why? not in terms of specifics, we deal with male issues, sometimes there is an overlap but being honest i am far to ignorant of trans issues in general to know what the specific issues are. How does MRM treat trans men and trans issues? generally it treats trans men as men, trans women as women and trans issues as issues that we leave to the focus of more useful groups. What are your personal beliefs about trans people? Why? that their gender ide…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:08 PM
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when i was at scholl, guys would be sent home for wearing shorts that short, the rules are generally not gender specific. you get one set of rules with the only difference at my school was that kilt was male and skirt was female.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 10:16 PM
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in all honesty it wont, it will convince those on the feminists side that they are right, it will encourage women to look at men with fear and it will still anger abused and disenfranchised men everywhere. it may have a slight effect in terms of numbers visiting here but thats really a drop in the ocean.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:11 AM
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as a scot, we never had any of mr rogers in the uk, but the more i learn about the man the more i wish we were all a little more like him.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:09 AM
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i agree wholeheartedly, up votes for you both.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 12:02 AM
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members of the movement probably stopped me from killing myself by listening to me and showing me empathy where none had been before.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:59 PM
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yes, i learned to be wary at night long before i was an adult. i come from a fairly rough part of scotland and stabbing and violent beatings are part of the fabric here.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:15 PM
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read the comments then had to wait ten minuites so my hands would stop shaking in anger enough to write this. in a mainstream online media people can still comment with men cant be raped and theres not even a hint of disagreement. so fucking angry.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:39 PM
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sounds similar to me, i was angry at my family for not believing the abuse i suffered.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 06:37 PM
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Its a good start but professional help is the next step, spending years having negative feelings and experiences bubbling through you is not healthy xx
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:14 PM
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i was abused, beaten and raped in a long term relationship. i understand where your coming from. but you need to get help man, stewing on the pain and bitterness is not gonna help. medical professionals can be helkpful if they take you seriously. feeling like tarring all women with the same brush because of the actions of another woman is only gonna hurt you and the peoiple around you in the long run.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:19 AM
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the MRA exists because men are disadvanntaged in society and there has been no effort by anyone to change that. we suffer, and even though that suffering me be different to the suffering of women does not mqake it any less meaningfull. there is currently a societal shift to seeing men as causing harm and women being harmed, that is not a correct assumption in the majority of life.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 08:21 PM
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aww, seems liek the "logical" contributor got his feels hurt. i shall be seeing you around, and striking your non arguements down when needed.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 01:25 AM
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conspiracy theories...yawn. at least alex jones wobbles a little when he gets wound up.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:58 AM
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because this is a new movement which goes against the societal status quo, any rights movement is hailed as radical or dangerous, we just happen to live in the internet era.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:50 AM
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and you still continue with the labels rather than answering a questions i asked, or providing a rebuttal arguement. everyone follows my path, every man has accepted the masculinity he wants, its just that sometimes the more traditional masculine roles/appearence/traist can be looked down on by society. as i said, you have no power, your impotent and no amount of PUA bullshit is gonna fix that.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:47 AM
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and they don't start applying because you want them to, as i said its pointless to keep circling this way. when we cannot agree we need to accept that. as i said, i see no reason why i need to accept patriarchy to be pro womens rights or pro egalitarian. The only thing scientifically proven about the difference in brain chemistry (aside from hormones involved in reproduction) is that men tend to be more left brained, where women tend to be more right brained with stronger empathetic capabilities…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:45 AM
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the only bitterness i have is to thew women who have abused me, the women who raped me and the ex who beat me black and blue for years. as for regular women, i harbour no ill will at all.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:12 AM
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this guy just makes me laugh, and feel sorry for him. its quite tragic that he feels the need to try and prop up his failing ideology with the MRM. personally i don't think left or right comes into it, you are either for mens rights or your not.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 01:46 AM
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i never said what it is to be a man, i was talking about masculinity. a concept which has changed and evolved over millenia. you still refuse to give any examples of what the right way to move mens issues forward, you just continue to say no thats wrong with no further comment. your post had nothing to do with the differences within the gay community, you simply referenced being gay friendly as if it was a bad thing. you make so many unsubstantiated claims its amazing, you have yet to substansia…
/r/MensRights07/04/14 12:28 AM
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You're a binary thinker, moreover you think principles like self sufficiency, freedom of speech/movement, and personal liberty are 'dinosaur' ideas. You believe yourself so evolved you have nothing to learn, that no one before you could have figured it out. That your input is always improvement. nope, i just see this movement as a free marketplace of ideas. there is no wrong or right answers. you think you can dictate what it is to be a man, well your free to try and those who disagree can ignor…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 11:45 PM
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so in reality she is someone not worth caring about, until she actually gets a big show.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 11:13 PM
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nope, i just think the problem of women raping men is a far greater problem, that said if we teach all of our kids to be decent human beings that may work on both issues.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:31 PM
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who is this women and why is her opinion important? i could understand if she was important or high profile, but she doesn't seem to have any public profile. (maybe thats why she is doing this poor attempt at networking?)
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:08 PM
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i think life could be better if we taught all or children whichever gender they are not to rape.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:05 PM
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post hoc ergo propter hoc and tu quoque do not apply here, i demonstrated an alternative view of the raw data, and poked at some chinks in the armour of your hypothesis. but i think we will have to agree to disagree on this one, however you have shown the main problem in trying to get mens rights working with feminists. feminist will not work with people who refuse to buy into their worldview, you need to acept ideas such as patriarchy, rape culture, privilege then you might as not exist. i can …
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:03 PM
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the principles of the MRM "equality for men and boys" theres nothing of your bullshit here, your a traditionalist, desperately trying to cling to a new movement while your conservatism dies. you can say what you want about me i don't care. call me a mincing pyjama wearer or a pearl clutcher or whatever you want, its meaningless, a loud roar from a toothless dinosaur. you continually talk about my viewpoint, my only view i gave was that each man decides his masculinity. seems a pretty solid view …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 04:22 AM
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i get my information from a variety of sources, mostly uk/scottish.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 04:06 AM
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in other words, anything which isn't my way is feminist. i pity you and your short sighted worldview.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 04:05 AM
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sorry but belief in patriarchy is a feminist hypothesis, not exclusive to women or even inclusive of women. you cannot accept that the data obviously points to the patriarchy unless you accept the existence of the patriarchy to begin with. and your women and black people idea is still as flawed as my men and white people example. my opinion was backed up by the idea that people make different choices in life because of differences in sex, men will gravitate to certain things more than women and …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 03:19 AM
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yes but the data can be interpreted in so many ways, the most logical conclusion to take is one that requires no ideological bent to accept. and exchanging feminism with black people is not equivalent, feminism is an ideology (subscribed to by around 25% of women) and black people are a race (of which 100% are black people). its not the same thing, its like the difference between a males disadvantages and my white disadvantages (being a male has many but being white is a pretty cushy deal). the …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 03:07 AM
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oh i am not saying there is no need for a discussion, just that raw data is not enough to prove a hypothesis. raw data is just that, raw data, so people need to interpret it properly. the likely possibility is that the differences in the sexes lead them to make different choices, and as such there is a discrepancy in numbers. my point was that the mere numbers prove nothing, and any additional arguments made for patriarchy only work if you assume patriarchy to be correct. its a self fulfilling i…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 02:50 AM
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statistics are just raw numbers, its the interpretation of that raw data that yields results, but only when its done correctly. using basic numbers is nothing without context, numbers of people in positions of power is the same tactic use by anti semites to "prove" that their is a jewish conspiracy, and that idea is as flawed as patriarchy.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 02:34 AM
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well thats time lost that i will never get back.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 02:30 AM
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firstly, i am scottish born and raised, outside edinburgh to be exact. secondly i said there are many arguements about obame that are appropriate and correct, and a few that can be made against obamacare too. and i haven't dismissed criticism because of the person delivering it, i dismiss most of it because its lies and proved to be so. most people pay less under obama care and almost everyone who publicly states otherwise is proved to either be lying or mis-informed. and even when coverage is d…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:19 AM
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my red pill comment was based on my assumption that you were using it in the PUA sense, but you know what they say about assuming, so my bad. my dissagreement was based on your posts which gave the impression that your ideal of masculinity was the only acceptable one, this is blatantly untrue. men are striding in all directions, both traditional and non traditional. the break down of gender roles is an important feature of this movement. without that we cannot break out of the roles we have been…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:09 AM
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i agree, it more a discussion on hysteria over firearms rather than anything to do with men.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 11:08 PM
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this is just crap.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 01:54 AM
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hmmm.... we had a meeting and now its done. bullshit, the only constant within this movement is that its about care for men and boys and equality under the law. then again, red pill tragedies like yourself are not really part of this, your desperate to be heard by us so you can have some form of evidence for your "alpha status" completely pitiful. well heres a statement for you "NO" you don't get to decide, you dont get to control, you dont get to dictate. i do not need your permission or your a…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 12:00 AM
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i am aware of his corporate leanings, i am also aware that very little of the criticism is true, most criticism is made up bullshit by republicans. and again, where do you think i am from since you labeled my govt fascist.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 11:56 PM
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sorry but this is not a mens right issue. mens rants ata push, but not here.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 11:41 PM
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so you get to decide what is masculine? you get to decide the path a movement can take? you get to decide what philosophy everyone else follows sounds like you are the one who is more like a feminist.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 11:37 PM
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nope, i just realise its limitations and accept that it has upsides and downsides, as i said it was better than what was before. as for my goverment being corporate or fascist, what goverment are you talking about?
/r/MensRights01/04/14 11:35 PM
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so basically, you get to decide what is masculine? you get to decide what the MRM is about? or you get to force your views on others? I do think that part of the MRM is about allowing men the freedom to move outside the traditional masculine role, its about allowing men to be nurturers, its about allowing men to be vulnerable and ask for help, its about allowing men the freedom to choose. breakijng out of gender roles is not the same as patriarchy, gender roles exist and are tangable wheras patr…
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:59 PM
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i agree, obamacare is primarily about making life better for insurers, but by stopping people from being excluded due to pre-existing illnesses and making birth control more available its at least a tiny step in the right direction. but as i said before, until america has full public healthcare coverage then its always going to lag behind.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:56 PM
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if i shoot someone in the leg, its not as bad as shooting them in the head, but both are still illegal and wrong. its the same for both FGM and MGM, both should be illegal as both are body modifications without consent. culture,tradition, religion or cosmetic considerations are secondary to bodily integrity.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 11:15 PM
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there is no ideology. equality and love for boys and men are all the goals we have.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 11:10 PM
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so many strawmen in there i felt the need to put my cigarette out just in case.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 11:08 PM
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sorry to dissapoint you but i am pretty much the trad masculine in appearance and half traditional and half feminine in personality. i never see anybody on here trying to attack traditional masculinity, just the idea of being forced to conform to gender roles, being forced is wrong and choosing to is perfectly good. your post seemed to be a slightly passive attack on anyone changing from traditional to non traditional. if i am wrong i stand corrected but i don't think i am. in fact the use of th…
/r/MensRights27/03/14 10:58 PM
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whether obama did it or not is neither here nor there. i just think that at least he is trying, i still think its a flawed plan, but its better than what was before.i will admit to not having read it but most arguements against it seem to be bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 10:53 PM
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i thought i was continuing a conversation with the person who posted previously, sorry my mistake.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:31 PM
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yes
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:25 PM
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and yet you were attempting to define what ideals of manhood are acceptable and which ideals are not. your post is pretty hostile at the idea of breaking gender norms.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:50 PM
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its still better than what was there before, but it has lots of flaws too.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:49 PM
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not sure how canadians are exempt, i am from scotland so i don't know too much about any exemptions.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 01:46 AM
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i gave 2 extreme ends of what can be considered masculinity, newither is correct. being forced to comply to anybodies standards is wrong and damaging to men, whether its a feminists, yours or mines.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 01:45 AM
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and i figure what is the norm?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:18 AM
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i never said the roll out was working well, but something needed to be done to change the system. at least trying is doing something, until like i said america gets its arse in gear and joins the rest of us with universal healthcare.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:20 PM
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hell its not perfect but its better than what was there before, we just need to wait till america joins the civilised world and has universal public healthcare till its perfect.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:51 PM
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i think her financing and close ties to big business are her biggest advantages. at this point the president is bought and paid for long before any elections happen.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:49 PM
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i ignore them, downvote them if its warranted and report them if its something thats just too far.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:44 PM
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i would say he has sucess, he just hasn't used it for anything useful beyond the ACA and maybe the symbolism of being the first black president.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:42 PM
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i really think you are wrong, i see the MRA stance as being one which allows you to be what you wish to be, if its traditional masculinity then fin, but it also has no hate for those who follow different paths or even those who completely break down the gender roles they hate. i don't think its a distain for trad masculinity, just frustration at those who try to force men into one category or another. i do not want to be forced to be a back slappin, workaholic, closed feelings hard faced kinda g…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:40 PM
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i tend to avoid newspapers, they are slowly becoming an outdated medium. i prefer internet sources and news.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:32 PM
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i see both as useful for shining a light on the disadvantages of the genders, just wish mens day received as much attention. lost of women in the world have things hard and i am in favour of some public attention being brought to it.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 09:13 PM
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this is politics and not mens rights worthy.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 09:52 PM
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really? try harder if your gonna troll/fish
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:18 PM
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but thats not the point, state power can always be used for good or evil. its not the states power thats the problem its the social narratives that make things so difficult for men in most western countries.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:43 PM
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man that was powerful, i remember moments like that all too well. i actually knew which foundation matched my skintone so nobody could see unless they looked hard enough.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:18 AM
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it can be these things indicidually or combinationsa of the above, i just feel putting it under the umbrella of the friendzone washes away the nuance of most situations.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:05 AM
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sorry but i have to say there are points that american women can make when it comes to the american republican party, they do get into womens personal lives way too much.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 11:30 PM
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its a troll, for the 51st time. people need to stop posting this over and over again.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 03:44 AM
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to be honest i find the idea of the friendzone troubling, its a mash up of to many ideas and situations under one umbrella term.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:36 AM
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if its the delivery room, i can understand, its probably the most vulnerable state a woman can be in, but there no reason he cannot wait outside and see his child once he/she is born.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:34 AM
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life is reserved for those who murder, its not really applicable in this case, i think the public paying more scrutiny to things would be far more effective.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:33 AM
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i know, but now anyone with an axe to grind against us has a little cheat sheet of his quotes to throw at us.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 12:23 AM
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wow! well thats a way to put me in my place, do you have any actual points to make or any information to add to the debate or is this your final answer?
/r/MensRights12/03/14 12:22 AM
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but they are shockingly bad at dealing with male victims of rape, and when they find out your rapist was a women they just don't care after that point. i speak from terrible personal experience.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:51 PM
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sorry bu apolitical means it has no political stance, its neither left nor right, neither conservative or pregressive. it needs to not involve itself in personal politics, just lobbying on behalf of mens rights.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:12 PM
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Requires money, I'm broke - you need to reach out to MRAs in city centers, such as toronto. money is not an issue, plenty of outreach can be done online, and mosyt places have groups that can be joined or can maybe allow you to speak at a meeting, as for toronto thats kinda hrd when i am in scotland but i imagine ther are many canadians on here who could. Yes. You have to convince others to take this up, or do it yourself. i plan to, once i have moved forward some of the real world action i am t…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:51 PM
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actually r/masculism is more the cerebral hangout, but it is a bit more feminist friendly than the MRM in general. might be worth checking out.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:32 PM
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i think a charm offensive is the way to go, get ourselves out in public, protest when we need to but for every protest there needs to be a lot of conciliatory moves. extend an olive branch to anyone prepared to work with us, if it means we support them in exchange then we have to see if its something we can live with. a larger presence in the blogosphere, but advocating change rather than attacking feminists constantly. maybe a few youtube channels trying to spread the message. i think reaching …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:24 PM
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sounds like your doing what you can, maybe try to arrange for some guy time? getting time with just you and him may give him the chance to tell you anything he is holding back. gotta say i feel for you both, it must be really herd for you both.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:06 PM
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i would speak to him, i think he may be ready to blow. you describe him as handling everythign very well and he may be, but its also possible he is bottling things up and that never ends well. maybe a fraternal offer of a place to stay if he ever needs it may help him open up, or at least feel he has options. home isn't too healthy for him right now and i think breathing space may help that, but it could depend on your mothers reaction to it all.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:56 PM
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grow up dude, this is tragic.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:46 PM
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yet again i have to say i don't know. i have a plan but its basic, but surely the more minds working on it the more likely a solution is to come.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:45 PM
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what is your living situation? any posibility you can take him in?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:43 PM
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as i said i don't know, but i think reaching out to the wider world is probably a good start.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:40 PM
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to be honest i am unsure of how we galvanise everyone, short of something huge really putting the pressure on men. How do we prove our humanity? we don't, we have proved our humanity by our deeds and ouur thoughts, by our actions and feelings. we have earned our humanity through the sacrifices of our ancestors, every man who died for his family and his country, every man who was killed or maimed to put food in the bellies of the family he loved and we continue to do so today. we show our worth b…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:27 PM
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i dislike this crap, seems like she already had it ready as an excuse just incase, that said prgnancy hrmones can seriously screw you up and they are not predictable.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:13 PM
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That is a very naive way to view things. No. niave? no idealistic probably, but its better to push for good ideals that may never be realised than accept a flawed reality which makes you uncomfortable to be part of. and if we continue along this curve then within a few years this sib will be nothing but reposts and misdirected anger (and a few trying to publicise their own blog). Do you believe there can be a Feminist MRA? Do you believe there can be an MRA who is not an anti-feminist? as for th…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:48 PM
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You are starting to sound like Mr. Divide & Conquer. Their rhetoric is for the most part on point and fairly tame. They aren't even angry rants. rants are not a problem, the occasional rant is more acceptable than slow deliberate and constant moves to shock, annoy, or create controversy. as for divide and conquer? hardly, i just want forward momentum rather than stupid skirmishes which do nothing in the long run. Did I mention they have every lead female MRA in the movement? They've been on TV, …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:37 PM
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i will repeat, this is not about recruiting feminists, its about appealing to the 75% who do not wish the feminist label, the thinkers, the politicians, the media and the people wqith passion, empathy and love for their fellow man. You are putting the cart before the horse. no, i want the cart to be attached to a norse capable of pulling it rather than a donkey which slows us down.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:32 PM
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i wouyldn't show them to anyone who hadn't been lobotomised beforehand, he seems more concerned about propping up the slowly dying ideology he has rather than anything to do with equality.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:29 PM
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please read what i actually wrote rather than being offended by what you interpret in your own head. what they produce is widely interpreted by the outside world as mysogynistic, occasionally in bad taste and generally offensive for offenses sake. the movement has outgrown them, we have to cut them loose to move forward unless they plan on moving forward too. i do not care about the opinions of the man haters, nothing we do will change their mind, what i do care about is the large majority of pe…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:26 PM
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AVFM IS NOT RADICAL! They are vocal, smart, controversial, inflammatory, but far from radical. I see their approach to activism as in line with most of other social justice movements. They aren't there to apologize for being done wrong by the society, they are there to challenge the society to do the right thing. i merely used the term radical as i was responding to someone else using the term, but your opinuion of AVFM is your own, but it is not the wider publics, hell it isn't even the wider m…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:24 PM
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That said this is a terrible place to find information about programs helping men and boys. That's a real problem because when we don't know what's out there we don't know what to lobby for. that was part of the reason for me posting this, we need direction and its just not been happening here, there is no unifying posts or causes put here for us to shift our numbers behind. You don't get a cookie for doing the right thing. If you are out to help victims and you recognize male victims that's jus…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:14 PM
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actually simply being an mra is all thats needed, its when we start combining mra with other ideologies that it all starts to fall apart. whether this conversation works is down to everyone, if it fails to turn people arounf then we fail, its that simple.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:10 PM
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and then all we are is the gender debate equivelant of an edgy teen. we are more than controversy, we are beyond mere piggybacking. we are a movement apart, its time we grew up and started fulfilling our potential.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:00 PM
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expecting the mods to do something isn't going to help, we within the movement need to demand better quality posts and more information. its why i posted this, there needed to be a conversation about this, not just a blanket ruling by mods. if everyone raises their game then it benefits both this sub and the wider movement outside of it.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:57 PM
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actually whats gonna win us the battles are troops, we need numbers. once politicians see us as a serious voting block then they will start to listen to our voices, once advertisers see us as a large chunk of their profit margin then they listen. we need allies, we have moved as far as we can solo, adding support from others is our best gambit at this point. i realise we need to be cautious of diluting our message from then on but simply numbers is what is gonna get stuff done. it is the reason …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:55 PM
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nope, that's the driving force behind the disenfranchising of men, the demonizing of male sexuality and the toxic gender discussion we have now. AVFM just pushes buttons and bitches and moans. any actual activism tends to be done outwith the actual site.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:32 PM
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its the driving force behind most of the activity that gives us a bad name, its full of rhetoric and it serves only to inflame for the sake of traffic to their site.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:01 PM
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yeah, way to twist what i said, its not about nice, its about reasonable. and put simply i suggest we work with people who will work with us, if most feminist decide they won't work with us then we don't work with them, if some feminists can get on board even when they realise they dont get to run the show then awesome. we need to treat individuals as individuals and not as labels.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:00 PM
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to be honest i doubt its gonna go so smoothly, i think if we stopped posting threads from facebook, isolated tumblrs, and reposting the same things over and over it may be a help. as for the 5 things i am most invested in it has to be 1.male rape not being legaly recognised in most countries (unlless its male on male....gotta love hoimophobia. 2.imbalances in family law be that custody or divorce settlements. 3.a ban on circumcision for all but medical emergencies in those under 18 4.more action…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 06:44 PM
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bollocks, you stated all over this what your true feelings are and followed if up by saying abortion is wrong in the post above mine. so can iassume that you will be happy if paternal surrender becomes law and abortion is enshrined in law too?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 06:38 PM
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so then this has nothing to do with mens rights and has everything to do with stopping abortions.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 06:10 PM
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this troll again? this must be the 50th time this has been posted.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:55 PM
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so basically the enemy of my enemy is my friend? nope, just because i share this one thing with paul elam doesn't mean that i think we are partners in vision. AVFM is still wrong and one act that aligns with me does not make everything else okay. and the tradcons are still here, a bernard chapin vidoe was linked not too far down the new page on this sub.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:52 PM
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or people like me who find some of the content schildish, some of it banal and some of it deliberately skirting the edge of mysoginy for the sake of site views. there is no defending AVFM, maybe before but certainly not now. we need to be better than that and we need to show the world we are better than that.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:47 PM
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as soon as i saw who was behind this video i switched off, the guy is a moron.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:32 PM
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what gains are those? from what i have seen the vast majority of gains have been through combined action, letter/ email campaigns and the work of people on the ground. being inflammatory has only landed us in the public eye and has been mostly negative.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:15 PM
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yes i understand that, we go against the norms of the current western societal norms, but being deliberately inflammatory for no gains is pointless right now.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:10 PM
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no i said moderates like me need to make our voices count, we should be louder and contribute more both on here and in the real world. moderates willing to work with whoever helps us out, no matter who they are or what their political or social ideology is. people who want results beyond publicity based on idle statements. i propose that we get people out there who can win over the public with logic, passion, reasoned arguement and a more inclusive attitude to mens issues.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:02 PM
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someone who is willing to work with whoever gets things done, someone with a realistic view of the world, someone who can accept that feminism has some reasonable points and some reasonable members. someone who isn't inflamitory just for the hell of it. I know what a radical is and while I see some pretty incendiary comments around here from time to time I still don't see anybody calling for the death of all women , a complete removal of their rights , or any other real misogyny. I say real miso…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:59 PM
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i never said that moderates were blocked my AVFM, i said that AVFM isn't really likely representative of the movement as a whole. and the other 75% is gonna be harder to win over if the first contact with mr is gonna be AVFM or some similar overblown easily exploitable bullshit.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:56 PM
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i am talking about the world at large, if talking to feminists won't work then we need to talk to the other 75% of the poulation who may be receptive.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:40 PM
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a minority in the mainstream is still a minority, adding those who have been mislead by society will make us much more powerful, inclusive and effective.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:33 PM
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If you push the likes AVfM away, all thats left really is people here getting offended over facebook type nonsense. except thats not true, there are enough moderates to keep things moving forward. AVfM aren't really scary radicals though, if you switch the genders, they are probably less radical than the average feminist area. our monsters arent as big and scary as theirs is not an entirely convincing arguement. There is nothing you can do about being called misogynist by feminists, except ignor…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:25 PM
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yes, but theres also far too many fights over ridiculous things, i don't want to fight feminism as a whole because of one tumblerinas opinuion or one youtube video, which is what we do a lot of the time. ignore the outliers and fight the main body when its right for us.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:16 PM
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i am still happy to fight, and if taking it to the ground and fighting dirty is what it needs then i am as happy as the next person to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in, i just feel that multi-faceted approaches work best. Perhaps you could submit a piece to them arguing for the moderates of both sides to come together on issues that concern all involved? funnily enough that was my idea for the first video/blog i do once i get things up and running.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:12 PM
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yes, but the scary radicals are usually pushed out of the common spaces, this hasn't happened with AVFM, they are welcomed here. Were it not for the longer term mra's getting rowdy and loud, you likely wouldn't be here and the mainstream wouldn't have heard of us. that may be true, but it doesn't mean that we need them now and it certainly doesn't mean that we have to credit AVFM for too much of that. as for the accusations, you are right but its easier and less labout insentive to refute made u…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:10 PM
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Go right ahead. Get yourself a free Blogger or other account and get to the passionate discoursing apart from the places you dislike. Don't just talk about it, do it. Post a video somewhere or record a podcast. Free / cheap hosting is available for those starting out most places, some with ad sponsored hosting. i am planning on doing this once my real world advocacy and my personal life give me the time. "Allies" implies another group with shared ideals yes, egalitarians, skeptics and general me…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 03:54 PM
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Maybe you're just dealing with zealots too much. Anyone who will simply lump a singular person in with a huge pile-up like AVFM isn't interested in what you actually have to say. true, but its also probably one of the first aspects of mens rights they are going to hear about from either a google seach of from media, as such they get to be the first impression that people get, and first impressions do count. Even if AVFM wasn't an extant force the oposition would still be stronger, more entrenche…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 03:49 PM
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Unless you're willing to put in the efforts they have and deal with the onrush of hate and derision they have, don't dog them too much. their effort has set us back, they have become a figutre head that is used as a representative of us all, they do not speak for me, they do not work for me and the certainly make all our efforts harder because whenever anyone brings up a mens issue they have to explain away a lot of the rhetoric that came from AVFM. They haven't been holding us back. They've jus…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 03:11 PM
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ah sorry i misread.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:31 PM
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i never said anything about not holding false accusers to account, i just stated that mandatory sentences are not the way to go about it.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:16 PM
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yes, and lead to a point where anything i say can be written off as just mysoginistic bullshit. now this movement is tarred with the brush of paul elam and AVFM. so in reality they hold us back and have always done so.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:36 PM
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i never like the idea of mandatory sentencing, if there is no flexabilty in the punishment then fewer judges are likely to hand that punishment down.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 12:52 PM
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its not, but you have to put yourself first. will being arrested be a sacrifice your willing to make to prove a point? how about losing your job, or being labeled a creep/perv/rapist?. as previously said, two wrongs dont make a right but you shou;ld be considerate with your safety and liberty and not do something as foolish again.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:39 AM
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i can agree there is an element of racist attitudes in interracial porn, the black men are basically given the job of taking on a hypermasculine stereotype to please the women who are interested. basically its the evil male sexuality myth turned up to 11
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:28 AM
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casemods is either the same as the OP or working with them. its either a fishing trip or a troll, best ignored and downvoted. this is not mens rights.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 02:16 AM
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couldn't agree more, nobody asks a question then has almost no replies unless they arent really interested in the question in the first place.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 12:49 AM
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i think its less looking for a pussy pass, and more clutching at straws. her chances of a not guilty verdict is slim to none.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 09:25 PM
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i shall attempt to reply to all your messages. firstly, i am still not used to reddit and am still figuring my way around. tips on how to format would be well recieved. secondly , respect is earned not demanded, i understand people have worked on my nehalf before i even knew the MRM existed, but that should never stop someone from questioning the movements direction. thirdly, my complaint was about this sub not the movement as a whole, this place is generally the first place someone has contact …
/r/MensRights02/03/14 08:57 PM
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living in scotland i have to say its pretty good here, it still has its crappy points when it comes to family law but its damn good in other ways. plus a pre nup is cast iron according to scots law.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 03:25 AM
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i doubt it, in western media it seems like race plays a part but the main point is if the kid looks cute in the picture and if the parents are at least reasonably wealthy. i never see this split down gender lines, but there are a lot of other influences.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 02:50 AM
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simply this is a problem based in religious bullshit, women are seen as less valuable than a man, its basically the same as killing a man and stealing his wallet. this isn't a mens rights issue this is an issue with bat crap crazy fundamentalists.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 02:44 AM
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Funny, I could have sworn that it was the idea that men are the cause of women being oppressed that's ingrained. Silly me. that's ingrained here, its something we all know so bringing it up multiple times a day does nothing to help. we should now be talking about the issues. Bullshit. Have you never heard of CAFE'? They've been holding men's rights conferences out in the real world: College campuses. Know what they got for it? A bunch of Feminazi's screaming in their faces. and cafe is not a men…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 02:44 AM
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reading the comments made me feel a little less alone (though kinda sad that its not just me) when i read the comments about threats to accuse you of rape if you do not consent. this was my situation for over 18 months while i was raped as a teenage boy. looking back i realise it was an adult woman using power to force a teenage boy to do as he is told and to make sure i never revealed it to anyone. when i see this happens to men other than me it makes me realise i am not the only one.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:24 PM
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i think its because most in MR have gone beyond the "bad feminists" conversations and are genuinely wondering what the hell to do now, or how to do it. i am one of the moderate voices, and i am tired of fighting feminists and want shit to happen to improve mens lives. the idea that feminism causes some of mens ills is ingrained, we don't need that now. we need to be actually advocating, banding together, making this a movement out in the world and not just online. feminism isn't all bad, its mai…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:16 PM
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it doesn't need to be reformed it just needs to be honest. if feminism stopped pretending to be about equality for all and just owned up to being a movement purely for the advancement of women then it would get a lot less hate than it gets now, it would be seen as obvious and eventually the needs of feminists would balance out with the needs of the MRA. but as long as it pretends to be for everyone then it will hurt everyone.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 07:37 PM
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i am scots, for a while i was homeless and lived in a place like this. it was hell on earth, it was like setting civilsation back 1000 years then filling it with vulnerable men. i was stabbed, had to physically fight on a regular basis, never could leave anything in my room worth more than a penny because it was nicked. eventually i was moved into a seperate place which was mixed gender and it was like heaven on earth, peacefull, much less stressfull and much less violent, but the women there cl…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 07:23 PM
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sorry but this isn't a mens rights issue, the men and boys are killee and the women and girls are kept to be either sex slaves or victims of forced marriage. nobody is a winner in this.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 06:45 PM
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bitching about my "concern trolling" isnt helping anyone either. i am done with this conversation. you are obviously not here for discourse or discission so i will bid you good day.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:38 PM
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yes, you have said concern troll repeatedly. and i believe that the MRM is an area for anyone who cares about men and boys, not your personal stomping yard. i raised a legitimate opinion. and you answered like a douche. though if i am stopping us from reaching pour goals by trying to get people to take us seriously then how am i harming us?
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:26 PM
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everything is a pr campaign, everything is about the image you project. if you scare people away (or others use things like this to scare peoiple away) then you lose the potential new members who will strengthen us. also i love how you both police the tone of my comments on this and profess to be the god almighty of the MRM.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:45 PM
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i think maybe as the anger subsides and we look for ways to improve the lot of men, there just isn't a lot here for us. the few good articles posted here we could probably find on our own, but the rest is made up with fox news, the daily mail and the annoyances from our facebook feeds. we are not gonna take the fight to anyone unless we get out and start working.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:35 PM
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fine call it what you want. you call it concern trolling, i call it not havinbg us painted as knobheads.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:30 PM
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nope, i just dont want this quote mined (again) to be used to make us look homophobic (again)
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:25 PM
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more a dislike for something which could be used to make us look bad or to bring the sub into disrepute. if someone is being deliberately provocative to make a fair point then they should be obvious so we can see their arguement.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 06:03 PM
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in that case you need to work on your shock for irony and to make a point skills. if you come accross like a troll then your message is lost.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 09:52 PM
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wow, plerase refine your technique before attempting to troll, this is just shamefull.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 09:00 PM
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think any capital sentence is inhumane. it just dissapoints me that we give people a platform in the public eye.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 08:58 PM
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a poor attempt at trolling, the guy was a moron and possibly mentally ill.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 10:36 PM
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i agree with this, in general society you never get much beyond the salacious bs about the sex life of the trans community of the probable poes of the die CIS scum merchants. maybe this sub needs an AMA with members of the trans community so we can understand their individual problems more.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 02:26 AM
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well i hope i am proving that there's an argument that not all people who believe that men need a movement of some kind are not the same (FYI i class myself as an egalitarian rather than an MRA). oh and i agree the patriarchy can be us3ed to account for mens problems but only if you ignore how the world actually works. the reality of life is that other societal systems control life in different cultures. in the US, there a quasi theocracy that attempts to control abortion and birth control and t…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 01:26 AM
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because a sociatal assumption that removing part of a healthy penis to curb sexual activity, yet to remove part of a healthy vagina to curb sexual activity is wrong. both acts are performed without the consent of the children involved, both are abuses of a human body and both are systems designed to control a persons sexual function and sexuality. if your okay with your penis then thats cool but i firmly believe that any non life saving or pain reducing surgery, should not be carried out on a ch…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 01:05 AM
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sorry its not, Claire is one of the most respected and knowlegeable women in sports reporting. she is also one of the few who are openly out and that draws the attention. i think she is awesome and brings attention to a serious problem in russia, it does not diminish homosexual men in any way.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:19 PM
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thats true, but the small things are the issues thrown out by people who hate men to diminish any problems. if it can be made to seem like all we complain about is having to spend money or not getting laid enough then it diminishes the impact our statements about serious issues make. dating can be a problem but there are bigger fish to fry. may i ask why you do not feel genital mutilation is not a problem?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:15 PM
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well to be honest cross posting looks like your on a fishing expidition for information that you can use to confirm already held biases. i will assume that that paranoia is misplaced and that the anger of replies are misplaced and answer your question honestly. there are angry men here (and angry women) concerned about the societal treatment of men and the legal treatment of men. sometimes that anger is misplaced rage at no longer being billy big balls and running the show. the vast majority how…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:12 PM
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anger towards feminism is not anger towards women women=/= feminism
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:47 PM
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dating isn't a massive issue for men, i think MGM, domestic abuse, female on male rape, and the societal control of our behaviour has to come first. maybe its not dismissing a problem as much as it is dismissing that your idea of a problem isn't really a problem we are trying to change.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:46 PM
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no i don't prioritize self reported rape victims over the falsely accused, i just fear that the way we are going is harmful, in colleges in the states its already a culture of prove your innocent rather than being proved guilty and thats problematic, not least of all the fact that historically and currently black men are more likely to have false accusations leveled at them. There simply is no time or resources to dedicate to a group that has been the default ruling class for so long especially …
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:49 PM
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And the lgbt movement should advocate for straight rights, lus with MRA talking poiunts being hugely overstated. I don't see why feminist would be concerned with mens rights issues if they have their own shit to look out for. and if this is the case feminism should give up the pretence of being an equality movement and be honest that its a womens rights movement. the lgbt community in no way pretends to advocate for straight issues. Men's suffering is often brought up in discussion about female …
/r/MensRights06/02/14 10:32 AM
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you have failed to address that actual arguments i am making. 1.when it comes to women, feminbism acts. it lobby's/protests and publicises. it as a movement uses its considerable political power to affect change. when it comes to men, feminism talks a little, maybe a couple of the mid sized blogs write something about mens crisis, and then they blame patriarchy and move on. if feminism genuinely cared about men it would work just as hard on the disadvantages and problems of men , and would be pr…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 11:29 PM
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arguements based on sheer raw numbers and biased interpretation makes this arguement the same arguement given that the jews run everything because of their over representation in banking/music/filmaking. both arguement are equally as weak and flawed.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 11:38 PM
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firstly even if i accept the patriarchy being a real issue, it doesn't change the fact that there is no actionm on the issues surrounding men. the idiotic abortion laws being brought into effect in texas brought out protests, articles and feminist talking heads on tv raising awareness. when a police officer in toronto says something ridiculous then feminism worldwide mobilised to create the slutwalks and to campaign/fundraise and change the perception. hell even miley cyrus brought pout feminism…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 11:35 PM
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i think not, feminism focuses on women but pretends to be about equality. this is a movement focused on mens issues so there is no need to look at the elements affecting women.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 11:22 PM
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except i meet many on the left who have severe criticisms of feminism, and of its tennents. feminism may be entrenched in the left but it does not own it, nor does it have a monopoly on gender debate in these political fields. also the reason the MRM exists is due to the lack of interest and action on mens issues from feminism as a whole, your not the bogeymen, your merely a group which found us to be completely unworthy of empathy/action or engagement. and no just saying "patriarchy hurts men t…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 07:39 PM
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i dislike the idea of the MRA attaching itself to a political party (or forming one) i feel the idea of treating everyone equally is an apolitical stance.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 07:24 PM
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not a communist but i am definitely more socialist than anything else in my political make up. i find it frustrating at times to see people try to co-opt the entire movement as merely conservative or libertarian.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 07:20 PM
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i have but most reasonable women don't mind as long as you don't cross a line and as long as your happy for them to be equally as attracted to guys and vocal about it.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 10:05 PM
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thats hellish, kinda glad i live in the EU where descrimination against men in car insurance is illegal.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 01:56 AM
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sorry but from what i read this woman is clearly deranged, i can see a long term stay in a secure psychiatric unit. the pussy pass may be a factor in many cases but if she was a guy who was as equally as batshit insane he would be doing the same term
/r/MensRights30/01/14 01:54 AM
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i fail to see what this has to do with this sub, seems more politics to be honest.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 01:49 AM
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this is not about sentencing disparity, nor is it about abortion. its about taking away peoples rightds to control over their body. if i was in charge then those who mutilate boys genitals would be getting the same punishment.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 09:21 PM
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thats a false equivelancy. a featus is part of the reason for the punishment. the fact is that only the woman should decide what happens to her body and any fetus she carries.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 09:19 PM
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Just because a fetus has no legal standing does not mean that its fate is irrelevant in this case, or in the other case you described either. no person or government should be making choices regarding a woman's body no matter what the physical method used.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:06 AM
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And women who do that should be punished, it doesn't excuse him. and yes when it comes to decisions regarding pregnancy is entirely the women's because the fetus gestates within her body.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:55 AM
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Two wrongs don't make a right, he needed serious punishment, and the scenario you described requires a bigger punishment. Women getting away with murder doesn't mean guys should get away with forcing a termination.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:52 AM
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If that's what you got from reading my post then please re read it. I am pointing out that the method goes beyond mere assault and that crossing the line into making body decisions for another person means you deserve some serious jail time.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 01:11 AM
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But this case is not about the fetus, its about the use of potentially dangerous medication and the denial of a woman's right to choose.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 12:44 AM
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Except its not simply assault, non prescribed medication can have all sorts of unintended reactions, plus there's the violation of a persons bodily autonomy. No person should force medical procedures on another regardless.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 12:42 AM
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I have no problem with his sentence, nobody should be given any form of drug against their will. And i certainly do not think he should take decisions regarding her body out of her hands.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 12:32 AM
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I found it interesting that there was instant speculation regarding the father when there was no news. Assumptions are always made that the father is involved unless its proved otherwise.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:11 AM
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not planning on giving up, more likely to abandon the MRA as a label and stick with egalitarian. if the MRM becomes politicised on one side or the other then it becomes as tainted and broken as feminism has become and thats unacceptable to me.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 05:20 AM
1

thats possible, but a lot of the rhetoric from the MRM is right wing. i mean i hear a lot of anti obama, or anti socialist talk here. if the voices are almost all right leaning then its automatic to assume that people will assume it to be a right wing organisation. for me mens rights is apolitical, mens hurt and mens suffering is not a party political issue. and its not about being anti right or anti conservative. i wouldn't want the movement to become a bastion of my fellow lefties either.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 01:34 AM
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this is why i am getting disillusioned with the MRM, its being co opted too much by the right. when this movement is percieved as a right wing movement then most "lefties" like me are going to be excluded from it.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 01:11 AM
1

yes civilised.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:09 PM
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yes they do then they can get on with making a public health sewrvice like every other civilised country.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 02:26 AM
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i think there are definately areas in which gay issues and mens issues merge. and i think understanding unique pain our gay brothers have is one of our strengths.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 11:36 AM
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yes but abrupt changes happen all the time in comics, i wish they could try to make everything a bit more seamless but i have no problem with the change at all as long as a good storyline reason is given.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 11:17 AM
1

and those moderate feminist lend power through numbers to the radical and hateful feminists. the whole idea of patriarchy is that of men deliberately oppressing women through out the ages.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:30 PM
1

thats true, but most extreme feminist are still following the ideals of their philosophy to the logical conclusion. without the hypothesis of patriarchy could feminism ever be allowed to be as anti male?
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:23 PM
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but its the theoretical that they use to justify the practical. i think continueing to criticise feminist actions are okay but to attack the very tenents of feminism could create a far greater victory.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:12 PM
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this isn't about saying nothing, its about destroying feminism by destroying its pillars, why fight against moving targets when we can pull down a standing column of their philosophy. destroy the idea of patriarchy and feminims doesn't have anything left to stand for.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:09 PM
1

my only thoughts are to laugh at the hypocrasy, women go unpunished for the same crimes on a daily basis, they are let off with probation or suspended sentences. as soon as a man is dealt the same hand then the media and the campaigners get involved....hmm, its almost as if the abuse of boys is more acceptable to the media.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 11:32 AM
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exactly, thats a minuite of my life i will never get back
/r/MensRights05/09/13 10:54 AM
1

patriarchy is a myth, its either about sheer numbers which is the same method of arguement that anti-semites use to prove the jews running the world, or its based on looking at singular examples which is the equivelant of saying racism is non existant because the american president is black and oprah is a billionaire. the world has been run by a powerful elite who want to hold their power and do anything to protect it. and that power doesn't drip down through all levels, average men do not benef…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 03:55 PM
1

then surely using that logic. someone can be a feminist and for the mutilation of female genitals.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:37 PM
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as long as you have an empathy for mens suffering and wish to change things, i think you will fit in here. as for your transgender, i have to admit my general ignorance on the subject. i am a straight guy so the things you have struggled with would be issues and things i have never had to deal with in life. but i think many diverse opinions and experiences will only make the movement stronger and as that happens our ability to shine a light on mens issues and eventually help them will only incre…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 12:17 AM
-1

yes, but the assumption that all trolling of feminists is based on men not liking women with opinions is just rubbish. trolls will attack people with the things they feel will affect them the most. if she was making a stand on gay rights then homophobic insults get thrown about and if it was a stand on racial issue then racial insults would be thrown about. she suffered something but to extrapolate this one situation to be the way of the world is foolish. any disagreement online is fine by me, w…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 05:37 PM
1

i can agree with this, my ex caught some serious shit because she originally gave custody of our 2 kids to me because she couldn't cope due to mental illness. it could be part of why she became such a nightmare after less than a year of me having custody.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:30 AM
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yes , you can re examine procedure and the elements of the case, but to tear down a pivotal part of scots law (only in rape cases it seems) is highly offensive to this particular scot.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:09 AM
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i suspect the majority of the jail time is because of the fraud conviction.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:07 AM
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this may be unpopular to say but i find 2X to be an okay sub, its a little full of cotton wool and bullshit but its not hatefull in general. its been accepting of me when i post and even my disagreements have been okay.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:05 AM
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this seems like a good things to me, both sexes should avoid marriage until its flaws have been fixed.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:40 PM
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yeah but most members of the LGBT community just want to do the same as we do. if anything the legalisation of gay marriage may push it to being more fair, because when someone comes out of a marriage between two women and gets screwed they can't just shout patriarchy then.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:39 PM
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and a bloody nose as well? someone called the police because they were argueing not because they were having sex.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 04:16 PM
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what kind of misunderstanding leaves you with a bitemark?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 04:11 PM
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this i can agree with.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 03:37 PM
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trust me, opening my eyes ruined ellen page and pauley perett for me, pretty soon theres gonna be no one to desire anymore.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:56 PM
2

a political heavyweight or two backing us, preferably from the left or centre (so it can't be just written off as right wing loons) and maybe more exposure in media that doesn't demonise us.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:45 PM
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i doubt most peoples differences are actually the politics, its everyone else who perverts the political stances of others for their own gain.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:23 PM
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i will repeat again, the democrats and their ilk are not left wing. they may be fucking it up but thats due to their progressive ideals and the hundreds of special interest groups they are run by. problems in america are nothing to do with the left. i feel they are more to do with the lack of a powerful left, a powerful left in america would force the right in america to up its game and actually fix things. right now there are too many centre right and centreist groups who know they are safe no …
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:14 PM
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socialism is about equal oppertunity, and a lack of nepotism in the world. socialism wants social mobility not social engineering.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:10 PM
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sorry but what has your paycheck got to do with gun rights? muddling everything together takes a good arguement and reduces it to satire. i think firearms are garrunteed due to the U.S. constitution but low taxes or the right to capital punishment are not, neither are many of the things which a lot of right wing americans seem to think are included.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:42 PM
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by that virtue because there are conservative feminists that conservatism and feminism go hand in hand. if feminism was integral to any political movement it wouldn't need a seperate feminist philosophy.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:40 PM
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i see quite a few pop up from time to time, and though the SJW's have attempted to get their claws into lefty political thinking it never sticks. this is why socialist feminism is still seperate from regular socialism
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:29 PM
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well i must point out for clarity that i am not american, i am scottish and a socialist. and while i understand many americans frustration, i think the american constitution is vague. it was probably left that way to allow it to be relevant in the future.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:27 PM
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well i think we are gonna disagree on whether the welfare state is a good idea, but i am sorry there is no left wing in america, there is right wing and centre right. if americans had an appreciation that politics is more than just the american 2 party system then they would maybe understand the point i try to make. but none of them do. my main issue with this thread has been the lumping of the social justice brigade with left wing politics. there is no correlation in my experience.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 07:29 PM
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i agree, the U.S. is in a hell of a situation, but to lump the blame on an abscent left wing is ludicrus. is the variety of the right that has put the country in the state its in. and looking after the poorest of your citizens is always reasonable. welfare is liberal not socialist. and liberalism tends to be a centreist political view. nothing is being nationalised in the U.S. its still a free market capitalist country. but i must admit the steamroller of progressive thinking has destroyed debat…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 07:09 PM
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sorry but thats not socialist, its just reasonable. socialism is nationalisation of industry and things like that.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 07:03 PM
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sorry but what is left leaning in america? and marxism and progressivism is no the same thing.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:01 PM
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sorry but fox is far right the rest are centre right. everyone bar fox is a more progressive but nothing is left leaning in america.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:41 PM
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couldn't agree more, this isn't really activism worthy. more r/mensrants.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 06:47 PM
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i have been there. your constantly looked at with suspicion, people assume your a sponger and i even had a couple queston my motives as to why i wanted to be a full time dad.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 06:03 PM
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i'm gonna need a citation for that. i think that any evidence of that will be in homes where the father has been excluded from his childs life, not regular single parent homes.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 01:32 PM
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so hsave i and its usually deleted or torn apart by us. anyone can post here it doesn't make them part of us, feminist post here regularly it doesn't make feminism part of the movement.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 01:31 PM
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i don't think its the single parent homes that hurt children. its the lack of shared custody and time with their fathers that hurts them.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 09:12 PM
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i can see where it may be reasonable, for example a local doctors surgery has its only female doc leave. i guess that it would be reasonable to hire looking only for a woman to keep the female patients who only want to deal with a woman. the same for rape councillors and perhaps areas which need women to work with other women (or men to work with other men) for religious or cultural reasons. but in general its bull and surely breaks equality legislation.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:58 PM
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sorry but i never see any overlap between MRA's and PUA, they want to re-enforce gender roles we want to get away from them and to be free. they spend their time judging themselves by how much women value them, not really an MRA viewpoint.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:55 PM
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not that i am singling out the american justice system, most western judiciaries are incredibly inconsistent.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 06:37 PM
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i don't think the hard sciences have any slant on them but the social sciences will always slant with the person who interprets the data.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:11 PM
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this seems to be a product of the american legal system which has no consistancy in anything.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:05 PM
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because its important that we can have 2 people have a mature conversation about whether to be parents and then act in the best interest of both people.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:56 PM
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men included. abortion is no longer a mono gender issue.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:55 PM
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as much as the article shines new light on the person behind the law, it doesn't make the law any less legitimate. all humans need the right to have an abortion.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:57 AM
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glad to hear things are okay for you now, i like that your an ally and i like that you have a positive male role model in your life.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 05:18 PM
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mgtow is about stepping away from the system, not stepping away from their kids (if they already have some of course, i doubt a mgtow would have more kids) i have never seen any of the MGTOW's on here advocate abandoning or ignoring children. your dad was an asshole no doubt, but to try to lump your dads behaviour in with the MGTOW community is an attemt to smear them, just as the PUA knobheads are used to smear the regular MRA's. please get help for the abuse you suffered, please educate yourse…
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:26 AM
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there are not thousands of kids running about who are unloved or raised by parents who didn't want them. there aren't people using back alley abortionists with all the inherant health risks involved. i for one prefer legal abortion to women drinking bottles of gin or throwing themselves down stairs too. the biggest benefit is the allowance of people to have the right to choose, lack of choice almost always hurts people. and your not cutting someones life short, your stopping someones life from e…
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:18 AM
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it may, this is why i believe that access to abprtion for women is as much a mens issue as a womens. i believe we need to support women in this fight because it benefits us all.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 09:01 PM
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true.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 07:57 PM
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i agree.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 07:30 PM
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but he doesn't have the ability to force her and nor should he.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 07:30 PM
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wonder what the sentence is going to be?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 07:25 PM
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live in scotland, prenups are cast iron over here.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 04:59 PM
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my first piece of advice would be to contact a rape crisis support service in your country/state, they can help you deal with your feelings and support you in whether you involve the police or choose not to. secondly, get yourself checked out medically so you have at least one thing less to worry about.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 04:58 PM
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me too, i will literally run naked down the street in celebration when this happens.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:01 AM
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i am an MRA because i believe that everyone deserves equality under the law. i became an MRA after seeing that i had to spend about 10 times the effort in court to keep custody of my kids despite their mums alcohaulism, drug abuse, suicide attempts and the fact she had already lost custody to the state of her eldest.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:52 PM
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so when we are in a position of the majority deciding abortion is okay you will be fine with it? and you can disagree with me over the values of differing life, the likelyhood of miscarriage and whether babies born to angry, bitter, and selfish parents is the best things but it does nothing to prove your arguement about the legality of abortion.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:49 PM
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no but saying "its going to have a hellish life is. you cannot make a featus equal to a human being. a potential life is not the same as an actual life. but yet again we are in the position where you want your morality to be the law, you cannot force those values on everyone else, or force others to believe that killing a featus is wrong.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:38 PM
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human life is not certain at any point during pregnancy , miscarriage can happen any point up to birth. and the difference between a person stood in front of me and a potential person is massive, so i believe there is not the same moral arguement for abortion and euthenasia.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:17 PM
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yes, but thats due to a multitude of things, self awareness, sentience, and the fact i was bron along time ago. a fetus does not even know it exists.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 03:05 AM
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Where have I disagreed on what constitutes a person?... i stated a featus is a collection of cells and you stated you disagree.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 05:29 PM
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discussing this between friends is not really going to stop the "just to be sure" mindset. people are always going to question the guy with the kid just to be sure, they will always call the cops on the guy with a kid leaving the park just to be sure. i think maybe you notice the problem less because you haven't looked at how societal pressures have changed the behaviour of men. as a test spend a day looking for genuine interactions between men and kids in public, i bet there will not be any int…
/r/MensRights29/06/13 11:00 PM
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well if your arguement is non-religious then please put it forward (or the non religious objections if your objection is a religious one). andf yes quite, it is a simple point, before abortion was legal in the UK there were still many abortions performed in unsanitary conditions with deaths resultion from them. and you may disagree with me on what constitutes a person but it doesn't mean society as a whole should put more stock in either arguement. your opinion disagrees with mine but you have n…
/r/MensRights29/06/13 08:25 PM
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then thats for the individual to handle/rationalise in their mind, but what you class as life is just cells till it becomes a sentient responsive life. it may be harsh but your morality and rational in this is not the rational that others have. i just fail to see peoples objections other than religious. but the idea that its a convenience is wrong, most people who have abortions genuinely agonise over the decision and take the choice seriously, and then theres also the fact that abortions will h…
/r/MensRights29/06/13 08:10 PM
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no it just allows individuals to follow their own morality. if someone feels an abortion is moral they can have one and if they feel its immoral then they can not have one. forcing people to have or not have abortions is unnaceptable .
/r/MensRights29/06/13 07:35 PM
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and you have the right to your opinion, which i respect i just disagree with it, birth control is never 100% effective and therefore there needs to be a backup. everyones morality is different but you cannot impose that morality on others, just as i should never impose mine uopn you.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 02:28 PM
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so you argue financial cost when it suits and then disregard when it doesn't? there are thousands of kids in my country who spend their whole life in the care system because the children outnumber the potential aoptive parents. and i think that to be killed before you are sentient is better than to live a life that may be full of abuse, neglect and poverty.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 06:47 PM
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the pregnancy will end and the fetus will never become a child so yes the fetus dies, but the financial cost of abortion is cheaper than the cost of dealing with and supporting unwanted children.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 06:04 PM
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nope, the childs development is literally stopped dead, but as we have no sentience at that point. its the best moment to terminate the pregnancy. as for financial, its less costly than state intervention when a child grows up in a disfunctional home, or is foster care.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:51 PM
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abortion is not generally at the expense of others, it occasionally hurts men but i cannot reconcile their pain with removing a womans right to choose. there is no cost.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:30 PM
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because birth control is about trying not to get pregnant its preventative, but not 100% reliable. abortion is the right of a woman to make decisions regarding whether she wants to continue to remain pregnant. a woman has the right to decide what she is going to put her body through. bodily autonomy is an inaliable right that all humans deserve.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 01:34 PM
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its mostly to help with quick catagorisation with different movements.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:37 PM
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yes but ding dong the witch is dead was the official protest song against her when she died. i was just pointing out it has been done before.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:24 PM
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trust me, i raised a glass of scotch when thatcher died, just making the comment that it was pretty unoriginal.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:12 PM
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i disagree, we need to be making it easier for fathers to get the work life balance to suit them just as it does mothers, if that is achived then there is no real difference between men with kids and women with kids. i doubt its discrimination that keeps women from STEM but i have no problem i a little education to let them know its out there if they want to persue it.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:11 PM
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women having access to birth control should not affect bodily autonomy or abortion rights.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 10:07 PM
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i agree, its just annoying to see this dross clogging this sub.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:52 PM
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no one is in jeapordy, the US is currently just throwing its wieght around due to a politcal smacked arse. snowden did what he thought was right. america needs more whistleblowers, hell everywhere needs more whistle blowers. he gave no data about the actual programming involved in prism and gave no mention of what actual terrorists were targeted he just showed they system is both open to abuse and too wide in scope. people need to realise that if a goverment keeps things from you then it removes…
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:15 PM
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he gave no secrets to foreign powers. he gave information regarding the collection of intellegence. i doubt the US is going to send its NSA operatives to the UK to face the crimes they commited when they gathered information on british citizens and passed them to GCHQ in britain
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:55 PM
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i think we should just ignore these stupid threads till they go away, no amount of debate will change the minds of either side. i will not post in another patriarchy thread.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:07 PM
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some of their videos are brilliant, but some just stretch things too far. comparing womens sports to the special olympics was a ridiculous video and unnecessary in my opinion.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:06 PM
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why? seems an overreaction, and more reason to support him being given asylum.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:04 PM
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this seems to be a stretch a gymnast would be incapable of. the whols situation is far too complex for a reply on reddit to even scratch the surface. but i have to say i think what he did was right.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 02:03 PM
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no, its moronic and backwards and representative of too many religious values in democratic process and policy formulation. the idea of patriarchy because of numbers is the same arguements anti-semites use to "prove" their conspiracy theories about the jews running hollywood and all the worlds financial institutions. both are as moronic as each other.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:59 PM
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true, but the solution to that isn't to restrict your average normal women from making choices about bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:57 PM
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not particularly, its just an appropriation of many of the headlines in the wake of thatchers death.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:54 PM
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true, but it does show there is a difference in attitudes to circimcision between the US and europe. but thats a sliver of a debate in a bunch of rumours and gossip.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:52 PM
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exactly, pitting the left and the right against each other onlt helps feminists and those who wish to supress free speech and only hurts us.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:38 PM
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its not offnse at the words ots offense at the lack of knowledge. its offense that the assumption of left and right in american politics bear out the left and right in the rest of the world. an american liberal is a UK conservative. your problem is not with the left and my problem is not with the right, its with misinformation and false labels thats all. say what you want just please research it a little and don't assume everything has the same standards as america.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:27 AM
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but neither liberals or progressives are automatically left wing.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:24 AM
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typical american worship of any minor celebrity or any person with a modicum of fame or infamy. its the reality tv generation and its moronic, nothing less nothing more.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:03 AM
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exactly, but then we fall into the problem of feminists thinking our problems matter less than theirs and we end up taking part in the oppression olympics. everyone can have it bad and deciding to ignore anyone elses pain because they are not part of their club is just evil on a grand scale. no MRA i have met implies that women don't have problems, i just notice we have a tendency not to prioritise them over our own because we have rejected the idea of women as victims.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:00 AM
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nope. progressives are a subsidiary of feminism, left wing politics is more involved with the pain of the average man than the current president of the USA, he is a conservative pretending to be a liberal, labeled a socialist by his enemies and a communist by loony's. learn about real world politics rather than the slanted american centric bullshit that seems to be available to you.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:58 AM
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i am not a democrat, i am not american i am scottish. i would not vote for the democrats because they are too right wing for me, they make the british conservatives look like liberals. my vote in scotland goes to a centre left party but will move to a far-ish left party when independence arrives. i will vote for a socialist party because i believe in a socialist mindset. i find it humorous that you equate the left with an anti MRA agenda because i find that the more left leaning (rather than pro…
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:56 AM
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okay firstly, i am not american, i am scottish and therefore i couldn't have voted for obama. please realise that what the democrats stand for is not leftist thinking, its a little progressivism and its a centre right party. there are no true left wing parties in america, theres just centre right and far right. i vote SNP because i think they are more likely to get independence for scotland but if/when that has occured i will vote for the scottish socialist party. your disagreement is with progr…
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:51 AM
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i am not offended by the conversation, i am offended by both the lack of any differentiating between leftist factions. and offended that people only see the left as feminists project it. as a lefty it angers me daily to see my politics being hijacked by feminist, idiots, cowards and the SJW brigade. not all left political beliefs involve restricting the individual, freedom of speech is a right and not a privilege to be doled out by the media or the goverment. the suppression of expression has le…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:30 AM
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this sort of narrowminded thinking offends me, i am on the left (far left compared to americans in general) and i do not wish to restrict free speech. just remember feminism and a lot of SJW's have joined the left but they do not speak for it. it makes their interests seem more important when they push it as part of the political ideals of the left.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 10:58 AM
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okay i will have a go. bodily autonomy is under attack in the U.S. and non existant in large parts of the developing world. 2.there is a problem with domestic violence and as much as the rates seem to be far more equal than the narrative says, its still a problem for both sexes. 3.FGM, its still practiced and it shouldn't be. women returning to work after children are a little more disadvantaged in the workplace. less women seem to feel free to embrace different standards of beauty, men are focu…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 10:55 AM
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i wouldn't say so, i am a lefty. i would say i am somewhere ner democratic socialist, i find it annoying that my politics are being usurped by people who want to pervert its meaning. feminism continues the lie that we are all white right wing conservative christians and that couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:58 PM
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nope, the whole situation is just a PUA v feminist bullshit. i do not wish to stick myself in the middle of a fight between two sets of vagina worshipers
/r/MensRights23/06/13 06:20 PM
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so your happy to continue the idea that its only rape if she was ugly?
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:08 PM
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i think the simple acting for equality for men and boys is best, its simple honest and not really open to misinterpritation.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:04 PM
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how about you reply to the rest of the points made?
/r/MensRights22/06/13 03:49 PM
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i notice something similar, the old guy down the street who helped me to fix my bike and taught me bike maintenance would be looked on with suspicion these days. its sad that soeone who got me into cycling may be prevented from passing on that enjoyment to young kids now.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 03:15 PM
1

but both arguements are involved here. as for the love arguement, love does not compel anyone to act, he is not being punished for his feelings he is being punished for his actions.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:02 PM
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i gunuinely sat and cried watching this, its not just men and boys hurt by this, its our daughters too.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 03:32 PM
1

this isn't about falling in love, this is about sexual activity. and in this case its also about abduction of a minor, so yes i expect this to continue because it is correct. and the age is an important factor but if she was 17 i would still be as angry about situations. teachers are in a position of power, they are temporary parents for the children in their charge.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 03:16 PM
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it does if the advice is gender blind, otherwise its just removing the gender terms but not the gender influnces.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 03:12 PM
1

yes and children experiment with those feelings by themselves or with other children, a child experimenting for the sexual gratification of an adult who has done their experimenting is wrong. as for the domonising in the press, i don't really see any difference, anyone who doesn't call this guy everything under the sun is shot down by the feminist media police. he deserves to be held in contempt , him being hated is not a problem to me, as long as when the genders are reversed the same applies. …
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:44 PM
1

and they shouldn't give any out either till they know what they are talking about. and they shouldn't be campaigning either. not having the information on rape of half the population renders anything they say as worthless, just as worthless as what we say.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:40 PM
1

but if the advice is going to be non-gendered then it has to look at rape in a non gendered way. any advice based on bad research is going to be misleading and wrong therefore no one should give advice till the proper and full research has been done.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:22 PM
2

because the research is based on male rapists and female victims, if the research does not look at the whole picture then the research is not complete.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:10 PM
2

that's not what your post appeared to say, perhaps an edit for clarity is in order.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:09 PM
2

so the example you gave is full of gendered language and is not representative of what rape prevention advice should be. you are there fore using evidence is offensive to all genders and is an example of what not to do. your support for gendering victims or rapists shows you have no compassion or intellect at all. and gendered assumptions are wrong and your replies have now convinced me you are either a troll or on a fishing expidition to quotemine things
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:03 PM
1

no not really, you can put yourself in a position where people are likely to be drinking and you can put yourself in a position where it may be likely that your target may be alone but you cannot plan for it. i don't know the mind of a rapist but rape is an abuse and i know the mids of abusers quite well.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:01 PM
2

i find it funny that you get feminists who declare you a feminist because your statements are what a feminist is, but at the same time(and sometimes from the same person) you get the not all feminist are like that. if feminism has defined parameters then the people who cry NAFALT are obviously not feminists.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:59 PM
1

actually no thats not whta i meant at all, i mean if someone is going to have sex with someone who is unfit to consent through intoxication (which i believe is the most common of rape) then they will likely take that chance when it reveals itself, you cannot groom and plan when your rape involves stumbling upon a drunk person unable to resist
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:55 PM
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may i point out that the majority of MRA's i have met do not have a problem with advice, its the fact the advice is painted to make men the agressor and women the victim. it is not always like that and as more information comes to light we see that female frapists of adults and children was woefully underreported and not taken with the seriousness it deserved. this is a waste of time, advice is fine, just remove the gendered assumptions fro it all and i have no problem with it. this is a non iss…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:53 PM
2

nope, peadophiles tend to plan and groom, most rapes happen in an area oppertunnity,.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:50 PM
1

i do remember and i also remember that my decision making was poor, i had a lack of experience in the world and i was easily led. i also remember being abused by a woman in a position of power because i could be manipulated, her experience in life and relationships meant that she could always be 2 steps ahead.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 01:31 PM
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my first experience was with my first serious girlfriend, she made me feel all i needed was her, she isolated me from friends and family and slowly began to become more and more emotionally and verbally abusive. i learned to live like that and then the violence started, eventually one of her friends started to bring me out of the relationship, she made me feel safe and that i deserved better. she helped regain communication with my family and gave me the strength to leave, and to this day she is…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:27 PM
8

domestic violence, i suffered at the hands of 2 ex partners in ways i am still struggling with over a decade later.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:04 PM
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being raped by a woman, DV by a woman , and fathers rights and treatment of fathers in society.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:51 PM
1

but sometimes people cannot see what is right in front of them, years of conditioning to see men as the inherantly evil, violent or oppressing gender is hard to shake off unless others help you.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:46 PM
1

i think my mother seeing first hand how the system hurt me, my children and the others around me shook her out of her cosy fallacy. it takes but a little look around to see the unfairness in the world. as for friends the best way is to be honest with the label you have, answer questions and call serious bullshit out, but making everything in your life about the MRA is self defeating and crosses over to preachy.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:45 PM
5

ah another "REAL FEMINIST" post.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:34 PM
1

actually my main thrust was that children are children. we as adults make decisions regarding childrens life all the time. your average teenager older person relationship tends to have serious imbalances in power. i feel that by putting any stock in her actions we in part absolve him of his responsibility. to put blame on the minor in these situations is wrong, its what the media does to minor boys who are raped by women. we should be better than that. the answer to the problem of societies hars…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:53 PM
1

i think what she instigated and what she wanted is immaterial, he is a grown man and should have known better, he always had a choice and made the wrong one. now he has to deal with the consequences. any adult having sex with someone under 16 should be prepared for the legal problems that will come their way.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:16 PM
2

thats true but thats not really something restricted to this case, theres always a demonisation of men and a nudge nudge wink wink culture when it comes to women.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:08 PM
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he is an adult, she is a child. this isn't demonisation, he was in a position of power over her and had access to knowlege about personal problems she was having. he crossed a line he should not have. if the genders were reversed i would be saying the same.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:27 PM
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tragic, i am not an SRS member but its nice to labeled one just because you throw insults out there rather than facts. the 2 numbered points you made here are valid and if you had applied logic rather than personal attack your point would have been fine with me.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:18 PM
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no its bullshit, it is nothing but a personal attack and an intelectually shallow mind, if you disagree then refute her claims rather than just coming across as a childish adolescent.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:06 PM
2

yeah, you really added to the arguement with that didn't you?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:33 PM
1

of course it does, it was designed to do so. the article was cropped so the replies would look terrible and mysoginistic then the full article would be used by our opponents as examples of us all being rape apologist and pro violence against women.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 04:48 PM
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i can kind of agree with that, i guess she see's it as something she has to be on the perifery of. i guess i need to show her she can be at the fore with everyone else. i appreciate them, i posted the article as a way of telling people that they should think about talking to friends and family, maybe they will realise the same things we all did.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 03:57 AM
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tell him to sign nothing, and anything he does sign in the future needs to be checked out by a lawyer first. other than that all i can say is get legal advice.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:58 AM
2

i am just astonished that my mother now identifies as one too, she was maybe leaning that way as she saw the hell i went through with my ex over custody, but it feels really good to know she is as passionate as i am.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:07 AM
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and it does do that, it has many articles on many things and i think they are all required, there is a mixture of anger and activism and both are necessary. if you feel so strongly then feel free to submit articles yourself. and i am sorry but if people deserve the blame then i am going to blame them.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:50 AM
1

i don't label them big bad feminists. there are many feminists who are not only sensible and educated, but happy to work with us and thats cool, i love allies. my problem is with the feminist who have risen to power, dominate the conversation and have the ear of people making policy, legislation and laws, and those who attempt control of gender issues through the media. you say yourself that you call people on sexist comments or statements, do you not think that criticising feminists who do this…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:43 AM
1

thats true, but the only evidence put forward is the article, so all the evidence for making the arguement is contained within it. anything else is conjecture.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:32 AM
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so your answer seems to be that people should do things a certain way, that being the way you would do things. but in the same breath you point out your not going to do it that way, that seems facile to me. i think the many people who come into the MRM compluiment each others, some are motivated campaigners, some great debaters, some fantastic writers and bloggers, and some get in to do the hard graft and make physical things happen. each part of the MRM is complimentary to others, anti feminist…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:24 AM
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well most trolls are easy to spot and those that may be but we can't be sure tend to get corrected quickly. right now the fight against the professional feminists and radical feminist who are influencing policy/law/society need to be addressed. a large part of mens rights is attacking these feminists, because with them in their positions of power with an unquestioning society nothing else we do will stick. how will anyone at mens rights get a abused mens shelter set up when feminist in goverment…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 01:12 AM
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i think so, i belive that this post was put here to make us look bad and thats why the majority of relevant text was erased, eitheer that or its someone trying to stir things up and cause drama.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:41 AM
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i don't have proof, i can only comment on the whole article. if you consent to a certain set of sexual acts and someone tries to change the agreement then the consent is null and void. you can only give to consent to what you think is going to happen, anything else needs re-negotiation.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:40 AM
2

to be honest i think that most of the stuff that is on mens rights has a reason to be here. once you discount the trolls, the PUA and the stuff that belongs more in mens rants then i would say almost everything here is mens rightsworthy. anger being used for change is positive, pointing out hypocrisy is positive, taking a stand in the gender discussion is positive and even moments of sheer rage and folly can be positive if the help to educate and bring about change. a lot of attacking feminism i…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 12:38 AM
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i saw the full article on this and its a pretty clear case of rape, the couple both agreed to him not ejaculating inside the woman, when it came to sex he knew he was going to ejaculate and told her so but came inside her anyway despite protests. if sex becomes something that one party in the sexual intercourse did not agree to then the consent is no longer there.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:42 PM
1

i am beginning to think she is some kind of plant to discredit us as a movement, even though i try to avoid thinking like that.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:39 PM
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i need mens rights because men are disadvantaged in many ways, and i feel that there needs to be a group making a stand for the rights of men and boys. as for specific issues, i am more invested in fathers rights as i am a single father and the disparity in rape laws between the genders as i am a survivor of rape by a women.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:36 PM
1

i think its achiveable as long as the standards are the same and the genders are segregated to keep costs down. otherwise its going to descend into chaos.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:23 PM
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if they can get shit done and kick ass like guys then i am all for it, but i get the suspicion that the entry standards will be lowered for women and thats just wrong.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:15 AM
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same here, but there are too many powerful feminist lobbies that block any genuinely egalitarian legal policies. just believing in wishy washy theories will not get stuff done to improve the life of men (even though i like those wishy washy ideas personally)
/r/MensRights18/06/13 11:56 PM
2

sorry but thats just not feasable, professional and academic feminism has overreached to the point that society and law and politics are only influenced by feminism. when it comes to gener policy or gender issues there needs to be a mens movement to balance things out. what you have said here is no different to a feminist shouting patriarchy, nothing gets done without the laws being changed and the nature of discourse being changed. gender roles will change but before that can happen we need to …
/r/MensRights18/06/13 11:45 PM
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and thats something no one should stand for.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 11:28 PM
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i think your point is true, eastern canada is definately at the forefront of the movement. it seems to have a few titans within the movement, but i think there will be comparative members who will rise up in other countries and continents, there is for example a burgeoning MRM in scotland and londons MRA's have been pushing themselves to the fore. i guess eastern canada is showing us how its done, the gauntlet has been laid down and we all need to rise to the challenge in our respective areas an…
/r/MensRights17/06/13 11:42 PM
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i was the teenager bragging to my few close friends, it helped me ignore the fear we would be caught and i would be punished, the fear she would get pregnant and i would be disowned, the fear planted in my head that her husband would kill her if he found out and she would lose her career. the fear that a time when i was nearing my standard grades i would be forced to a different school because of what i had done wrong. then theres the fact that my sexual development was co-opted by someone older…
/r/MensRights17/06/13 11:06 PM
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okay fine, then stop complaining, if your going to do nothing but stamp your feet and scream its not fair then you have no reason to complain. if your not willing to change things then you accept what happens so you cannot moan about it later.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:43 PM
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its just the usual from feminst bloggers i find. they tell you to smash the patriarchy and gender roles and tell you to man up or act like a real man usually in the same article.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:41 PM
3

this is a basic question of workers rights and equality, the law is behind you. but if you don't at least try then its destined to repeat over and over again.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:19 PM
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you never know unless you try. i wish i had .
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:11 PM
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is this an all female management team? i doubt it would get to a trial, they may just settle with you and fire the manager. if you take this lying down its going to keep happening. though in the interest of balance you left a few of the titbits you told me out of your main post.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 10:03 PM
2

this seems like some form of tomfoolery to me.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:58 PM
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hire a lawyer and sue, this shit can't be tolerated. your workplace is not a feminist recruiting station and its not an area of social justice. for her to have fired you there needs to be a complaint and i doubt any of your co-workers have complained about you.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:56 PM
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it always happens when you try to use abortion for political gain. abortion is a heart rending and tragic thing, no matter which side of the fence you come down on. it hurts everyone in contact with it, but it is necessary and it is a human right. she has just inverted the republican bullshit and its failing for her like it failed for them.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:45 PM
1

i doubt it, you can't censor the whole internet. even if we were forced off traditional social media or news sights, there will always be a way to keep in touch, always be forums and blogs and movements. no social movement can be stopped, hell the syrians, egyptians and even the chinese have failed on that one.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:43 PM
2

i have to agree, she could have simply posted one shortish video with a round up of what happened and aired her grievances. after that she should have moved on, but she didn't. i expect her to slowly take to attacking the whole movement eventually, and its kinda sad too, what could have been a reasonable and interesting debate over the political make up of the MRM has just become a dirty slanging match and i for one am out of all that.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:34 PM
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i have to disagree with the idea we are beautifully simple, men are complex, contradictory, and deep....and beautiful too. your summation of her being whiny and insecure is a far better way of putting it, just as my spelling errors may be a mistake on my part, being overly personal in attack is also a failing in my opinion, yet angry and logical can destroy any paper tiger stood in its way.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:08 PM
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i have to admit i was going to give her the benefit of the doubt and watch the situation unfold, but she has just gone off the deep end. she seems obsessed with her perceived injustice of it all, her "some big boys (and a girl writes what) did it then ran away" mentality is just angering me. she claims to be for what the MRM stands for then leaps into damsel mode when it doesn't go the way she wanted. i have just reached the point where i cannot listen to another second of her childish ranting a…
/r/MensRights17/06/13 09:01 PM
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karma on reddit means nothing as its so easily abused. also spelling errors do not make an arguement, if you disagree with me then feel free to debate me but i won't lose sleep over spelling errors i have made all my life and will continue to do
/r/MensRights17/06/13 08:51 PM
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sorry but everything you said there was pure ad hominum attack, i am commenting on the basis of the article and its power. when you make it personal you lose the arguement, comments with substance will do more than childish name calling. she has power and abuses it, nothing you said either added to that point or questioned it.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 08:02 PM
1

may i ask how you know why people downvote? it could be a disagreement, annoyance at constant promotion of a personal blog, brigading and many other reasons. it seems a little strange to just assume we do so just as a response of the title.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:11 PM
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without a change in media and society, what reason does anyone have to change the laws and change the system? if we are always going to allow ourselves to be portrayed in the negative then there will be no groundswell of support which we desperately need.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:21 PM
2

i think we have some cracks showing but we are such a diverse group there are bound to be disagreements, i just feel that anyone reducing the discussion to the level of a playground isn't worth bothering about.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:19 PM
1

the wooly bumblebee, she is a youtube user who had a falling out with the wesite a voice for men.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:16 PM
2

i did the same, the whole situation has devolved into childishness and attacks. its not worth even listening to her anymore. i gave her the chance but rather than walk away and continue to talk about other things she just set up a series of videos bashing people. it just seems like an adults tantrum.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 03:08 PM
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i would say a respected academic in a respected news source spouting drivel like this is something to do with us, i accept its way down the list of importance but its still at least a reasonable talking point. most of the people in the MRM would argue that societies view of us is formed through media.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:42 PM
2

i can't see how any one issue rises above any others, the whole movement is interconnected. we all have our own personal issues that are of most important to ourselves but as for the movement as a whole i doubt we can extrapolate.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:40 PM
6

its not a blog, its an article in the biggest online newspaper in the world. it informs decisions in the public and helps socially condition people to behave a certain way. this isn't some teenagers blog, it's the writings of an academic.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:33 PM
85

so basically she is telling us not to apply gender stereotypes to her, but we have to live up to her manly ideals? i hate this shit.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:31 PM
3

basically you can give consent to atart having sex but if you want to stop you can retract that consent which should end any sexual acts taking place.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:25 PM
1

ah that could be the problem, i started receeding at 25 so generally just keep it all shaved off so it looks kinda like i meant it.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:08 PM
1

i can accept his points. sitcoms are exagerated and the bumbling dad can be a part of that even though its usually just lazy writing that causes them to be used. i find it more problematic that the bumbling or morew insidious evil and uncaring dad is regularly used in drama, especially drama which is supposed to have a degree of realism, and also the stupid dad and super mum that i see so regularly in the kids tv i watch with my son and daughter. comedy is one thing but to use a constqant stream…
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:02 PM
1

i think i shall yawn, post this and go and have a cup of tea. and i managed it all without pointing out the irony of someone coming here to whine that we all whine.......damn.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:53 PM
1

the boit does this with every self post, its to stop the trolls from typing an article then editing it so they can quotemine or paint us all in a bad light.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:50 PM
3

no one sent me a thank you on mothers day for pulling double duty, funny that.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:49 PM
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i think that its a backlash about the supportive treatment we single dads have had at times, but i see nothing wrong in having my mother help out(and my father too). i seriously doubt most single mums do it all entirely alone too.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:45 PM
1

not neanderthals, just less likely to buy into the consumer bullshit surrounding shampoo.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:43 PM
1

i have to say that in the U.K. most suspects need to be arrested on suspicion of a crime to allow evidence to be taken. i have no problem with this more problems with names being released.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 01:23 AM
4

don't tar everyone on the left with the same brush, some right wingers can be just as ridiculous.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 01:20 AM
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i think that was a basic summation of the video, not an opinion seperate from it.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 01:19 AM
1

sorry i meant to type informed. i can't help but feel that this conversation would have a very different tone if the older partner was male. and i must say that i cannot see how a "relationship between people of massively different ages with massively different levels of power and control is never going to be healthy and certainly will cause problems in later years. a lot of my relationship problems trace back to the abuse i suffered in my childhood.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:37 PM
1

probably because anonymous trolling can be fun and argueing inappropriate viewpoints allows for lots of drama.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:34 PM
1

but his opinions on abuse are split down gender lines, that is as clear a definition of sexism as i can find.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 05:33 PM
-9

you have no evidence she is pakistani, she is merely muslim, her foolishness is in her ideas of "male gaze" not religious sensibilities. please go be EDL somewhere else.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:38 AM
1

marxism is a socialist philosophy not communist.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:34 AM
3

maybe its you who misunderstands feminism.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:34 AM
3

i have not met anyone on here who is anti womens rights. feminism does not equal womens rights.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:33 AM
1

i would say half liberal nationalist, and half socialist nationalist. i doubt i can pigeon-hole myself easily, but i would say i am pretty left wing by american standards and centre left by european. my problem is that you still buy into the whole male power and patriarchy bullshit.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:32 AM
1

its not thoygh, they lie prostrate at the alter of the vagina and seek to help no-one not even themselves.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:45 PM
0

nope the reward is slavert to pussy, slavery to society and failure to grow. your only as important as the quim you bang so all the power is womens. you guys are more slaves to a vagina than anyone.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:42 PM
3

i find a great deal of support from everyone in my life, my father see's it as a movement for men who fail in their life, but otherwise its all been cool. i also find it interesting that the one person who supports myself and the movement is my mum, a feminist for most her lfe till the past couple of years.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:31 PM
1

i wouldn't have asked if i wasn't would i?
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:30 PM
1

the suggestion was not hostile, it was polite and welcoming, i just mean the posting on the site itself and the posters on here. not saying it genuinely hostile, i just worry i would be politically incompatable.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:22 PM
3

thats's what hurting me, i am anti feminist but pragmatic enough to accept the support of feminists who want to work with us on issues, with me helping them in turn. quid pro quo in a way. and i feel more and more isolated by things. i don't know whether its because i am in a different country and dealing with different feminists or if i am truely wrong, but i seem constantly under attack for my belief that allies can be helpfull and positive. as for the politics, i can understand that all are w…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:42 PM
3

i can see why the MGTOW community could be highly insulted, there's an element of lumping men who are damaged and healing, men who make life choices due to experience and self preservation and those who just decided to take a step out of a game they feel is rigged from the start. i am not a MGTOW, but if i was i would have been seriously pissed to be labeled as basically a nutjob who fears women because of past experiences. these men in the most part are making decisions based on logic and a wel…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:34 PM
1

i have to say as this unfolds i find it seeming more and more that AVFM is a libertarian stronghold. there seems to be a use of pejorative language when it comes to lefties like me. even GWW who i respect massively describes it as a drum circle. and while i can see many, many problems in the work WBB produces i am beggining to feel that there is not going to be a place for me and thats sad, AVFM was what first opened my eyes to a lot of things along with john the others youtube videos. if i am w…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:10 PM
1

yes but cenk seems to be equating a young boy being abused to a positive when in my experience its quite negative. its that idea of one size fits all male sexuality that just pisses me off.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:15 PM
2

ah its a regular political tactic, attach your political opposition to a message you know will enrage them.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:13 PM
1

made me shed manly tears.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:12 PM
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if i was a woman i would be offended that the idea of a woman being self sacrificing for the good of the world. the assumption that you could quick fix yourself out of moral questions is tragic and lazy. i notice she never used the boss's death in metal gear solid 3 as an example because it doesn't fit her narrative.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:06 PM
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i agree, it makes for probably one of the most honest if the most trolled space on the internet.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:04 PM
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thats my only problem with the videos, using the rape of boys and the suffering of young men to bash liberalism or left wing politics is a level of insulting that usually only applies to feminism.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:03 PM
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i have to say i find their more recent broadcasts more considered and ana seems to be genuinely looking more at mens rights and problems than she used to, but cenk still continues with his "if she's hot it all good" bullshit, its this assumption that the only women who rape are fat ugly old women who can't get laid. feminism emphesises the fact that rape is about power not sex so these women are making men powerless, and no matter how great her rack is its not going to make anyone feel good.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:54 PM
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i shall attempt to doo so, i am still figuring how things work on reddit. i need to figure out how to strikethrough and also how to place a dark band at the left hand side of the post to denote quotes from another post. i think it will make me more understandable.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:27 PM
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not within the legal system and certainly not when it comes to sentencing.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:24 PM
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says the guy shouting and insulting everyone, i will not respond anyfurther to you on this subject or any other.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:24 AM
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or they really believe in what they think feminism stands for, they may be misguided but they are on roughly the same page as us, if anything they are closer to us than they are to the gender feminists.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:16 AM
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yes, i find that because i am lefty and a little socialist that its hard to bring the company i keep round to the MRM its not our message that puts them off its the politics. i have to agree with her material, it wasn't as fantastic as it could be but i felt she had a place on AVFM even if it was just for her alternative viewpoint. that said her newly added video does nothing but make her seem like a greeting victim.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:15 AM
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sorry i meant egalitarian feminism, its 3am here my mind must be slipping.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:11 AM
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this isn't about naughty words, its about trying to bolster support. we can only go so far ourselves. we have to branch out and make friends allies and paralell groups. directed anger works by hurting our enemies without chasing away potential friends. we can be true to how we feel and what we think without cowtowing to feminism. wheni have posted on feminist sub reddits like 2x and feminism i find that a rational arguement shows that some feminists will support us. to put it simply we cannot de…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:09 AM
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true, i guess i let my urge to have an arguement over ride my sense.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 02:03 AM
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sorry, guess i was just feeling a little arguementative tonight.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:55 AM
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i never said we should do that, what i said was a softening of tone and rhetoric may bring the genuine equality feminists into our way of thinking. we may always have to accept them as feminism but it gives our movement a power it lacks . it also frees resources and people up to fight the man haters. fighting a war on all fronts will destroy us, chosing targets is only sensible.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:55 AM
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fuck the man haters, they are beyond reason, but there are some who can add to us and make us stronger. they may not join our movement but they can support it.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:51 AM
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not here to tone police, i am here to say there may be a good reason to rethink hoew we do things and how we interact with others. asking that question is good from time to time even of the answer is to maintain the status quo.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:50 AM
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ah i see, but i have to admit theres even a chance of decent debate there too.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:49 AM
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its okay, i will live but i thin you need your nap your getting crabbit. this was an attempt at sarcasm, a poor one admittedly.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:48 AM
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yes and its just as moronic, you assume that because i don't run around reddit screaming like an over emotional toddler that i am somehow not an MRA, well your wrong, and no one said stop being angry its more a case of directing that anger in a way that gets results, screaming and stamping your feet is going to get nothing but a trip to the naughty step.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:42 AM
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you can do better than that, at least an original insult may have elevated your status above tragic troll. you complain about tone policing then attempt to police everyones tone...how ironical.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:36 AM
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sorry? your comment makes no sense.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:34 AM
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i am sure we used to attract a better class of troll, maybe we are losing our allure.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:34 AM
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those grenades are blowing up in their faces, just look at all the negative press big red got, adria richards got and anita sarkesian is getting.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:33 AM
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yep ans we all know the one way to destroy feminsm is just to scream loudest.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:31 AM
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i don't see your way as the future for the movement, we are all angry and we all have reasons to be angry but firinf it everywhere seems pointless. our activism needs to be like a sniper taking down the high value targets rather than a flamethrower burning the underlings as the generals laugh.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:22 AM
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i think too much anger just gets thrown about, if it was focussed on the targets who truely deserve it then we could move mountains.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:07 AM
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i think it has been in most civilised debate .
/r/MensRights04/06/13 01:06 AM
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i agree, i still feel there is an element of both genders sometimes have to suck it up when people are called names i have been finding that the softening of my language in the past few months has made more allies than enemies. i feel we need to look to egalitarian feminism for allies, they tend to be agreeable to most of our policies and while attached to a negative label can help us more than we know. building the MRM is going to take more than this sub and more than just a small disconnected …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:46 AM
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i am happy to dispense any lessons i have learned though i must say i am still learning as my daughter is still 13 so i bet there's more than few lessons to come. though if i could say one thing, its likely that if she is a lesbian you will know it, as will most people in her life unless they are homphobic or prudish. i have to say thats its kind of telling that you assume half of feminisms support would dissapear if it started to treat a mens issue with the same passion and pressure they treat …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:22 AM
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depends entirely which country you reside in.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 12:01 AM
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that wasn't an admission of defeat more of a request for further options, i have found a couple of M.S.P.'s that i could contact and can contact my local M.P. but the more people i contact the more likely the message takes hold, or is that wishfull thinking on my part?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:58 PM
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i can't arge with you about the conditions or your anger at your situation, the idea of attempting to mutilate your children seems strange to me but its not a common practice in scotland. i guess my question is why are feminists not fighting againg genital mutilation, gender free protections for all babies? though if this is a conversation thats causing you problems having i am happy to drop the subject. i have to ask if you considered that the majority of SRS are actually as bad asa assumed but…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:45 PM
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its was a local MRA group which first helped but reddits MR sub has helped more than i could say, so its a combination of the subreddit, real life MRA's and the pro man counciling service that helped me. i have to say i have seen SRS support those feminists, it seemed abundantly clear in the wake of the radfem conference in london that was banned that the trans advocated were thought as badly of as we MRA's in fact outwith reddit there has been an explosion of vitriol sent towards trans women fr…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 11:12 PM
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i have found support, the MRA that you say does nothing welcomed me, listened to me, they shared and let me share and i was never judged, it was the antithesis of the experience i had with feminism. my lesbian friend also said the same thing, she felt astonished that what she was lead to believe to be hate filled mysoginists seemed to care more about her than the feminists we both supported. (we both marched on reclaim the night marches, picketed events, protested and got petitions going and sig…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 10:44 PM
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i hang and lurk in two x a lot and they seem to avoid that kind of name calling, they may not agree on its importance but they agree it has importance, SRS does not, i tried working within SRS and was instantly banned for disagreement over a trivial matter. and may i say feminism is not there helping men who are hurt, individual feminists have shown they care but the majority of the movement is there to just shout "PATRIARCHY DID IT" and then go back to complaining about how women are treated in…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 10:09 PM
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maybe she is a non U.K. resident applying her law to everywhere.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:50 PM
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there is sexual assault, with minor variations in the name of the charge and then there is rape, and rape is not defined by anything it is simply called rape. or are you confused by scots law and english law being two seprate things?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:42 PM
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i wasn't trying to elicit sympathy, i was merely pointing out that a hypothetical conversation is one which applies to real people and there should be an empathy invoked because of that.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:41 PM
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its okay i don't drink either...with the exception of hogmanay. maybe your different but i see a lot of hate for men coming from SRS, there is a large element of the misandry don't real and the mansplaining crowd when confronted with the real troubles of men and that saddens more than angers me. as for sluers i think we are in agreement and probably were at the start but typing doesn't allow for the flow and nuance that actual physical conversation does.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:40 PM
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not in the U.K. and it is unlikely a judge would treat the victim of sexual assault as seriously as a rape victim, sexual assault is seen like a lowr offence compared to rape in the same way murder is considered more serious than attempted murder. i know i went through the system with a complaint till it got too much to handle with all the shit i got.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:35 PM
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i have to say i think scotland at the moment is working quite well, its not perfect but its the only left leaning european democracy that isn't terribly tainted by feminisms wants and demands.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:33 PM
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degrees of anything is an american ideal and applies to neither scots or english law.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:31 PM
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so your hatred is okay then? is it okay to be hateful and cruel if there is another being more hateful and cruel? i find that to be a bankrupt position to take, there will always be a more hateful and ignorant person out there and i think that having compassion for everyone is better than having a tournament to decide who is most put upon and who should get to sit at the head of the table at the oppression event. i will agree with you on the language changing from place to place, i am scottish s…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:26 PM
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well i suppose that trying and failing is better than not trying and complaining from the sidelines. i will take some time and se eif i have any thoughts that i could expand into something worthy and interesting.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:17 PM
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i am not sure, my point was that the thought of anyone suffering should be enough to bring about a little empathy, even if its for a hypothetical person or situation.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:15 PM
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my understanding of the white mans burden was that whites though they had to help black people becuase they couldn't help themselves, this seems an approprite comparrison. if my friend is wrong then fair enough, he is nigerian and has never lived in the U.S. so he may have misread the meaning or misinterprited it. oh and its not says the white man its says the white man told by a black friend, and also his family agreed. so its not just me being a bad white guy its the choice of most of the blac…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:09 PM
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do you notr think that you should read enough before you make judgement, arguements from a place of ignorance always blow up in the faces of those who make them.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:51 PM
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i can see that but i think their approach is generally non violent, its just that paul elam seems to ratchet the rhetoric up to eleven and that muddies the waters way too much.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:46 PM
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firstly do you mean reddit as a whole or just the mens rights subreddit? and no i do not see marshal mathers as a social justice warrior. he may make some attempts at being egalitarian but his music wipes that right out. and white people may use the word nigger, if you just say n-slur or n-word you both treat those who are part of the discussion as children and you remove the offensiveness of the sound of the word, making one of the most horrible things you can say to a black person into a insul…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:45 PM
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thats just because you make the assumption that everyone who isn't out there being a tumblr social justice warrior is a heartless asshole, fighting our corner and being critical of those who try to silence us for their own selfish reasons is not being blind to life harshness for others. if anything i think the average black person i know would find it offensive that you used a contraction rather than just typing the word "nigger", treating non whites like they are children and not able to have d…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:29 PM
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of course i wouldn't racism is still a srious problem in the world, to pretend its not would be foolish and idiotic. my point was that the hatefullness of a slur should be judged by the hatefulness it is delivered rather than the ofense taken.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:22 PM
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-Because, you - a man outside the movement - deem it so. Correct? no because its the job of any movement, if you do not criticize and keep in check the fringe then you give them tacit approval as part of a movement. i expect they would care, we are all human and we all care about others, we can empathise for them and feel their pain, i just doubt they would prioritise my problems above their own. i could say that a person in the slums of bangladesh probably really doesn't care about whether a po…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:21 PM
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nope, keeping feminism in check is the job of the feminist within it. as soon as you apply the same logic you use to feminism its more hateful than anything that comes out here.....even the trolls. you know nothing of my pain and i know nothing of theirs, i try to empathise but unlike you, i expect most disadvantaged people in the world would have compassion and sympathy to my tale.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:08 PM
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because their experience is different to mine, but funnily enough that makes neither of our experiences any more valid. i feel the slurs are always negative and are a small part of why racism is such a pervasive element in society.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:06 PM
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i think the situation hit home more for the guys on AVFM due to the personal relationships they had, i can understand their anger outstripping ours and even though i thought the language excessive i can understand and accept why it was.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:04 PM
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and i look like a sack of shit tied ugly in the middle, but my opinions live and die by their logic not what i look like.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:01 PM
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i would say any part in which someone suffers and someone won't help. that should encourage sympathy no matter how hypothetical or what gender the victim is.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:56 PM
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i would consider a system that pushes a man to set himself on fire due to injustice to be commiting violence on a far larger scale.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:55 PM
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i don't know if that will work, he is in a marginal tory seat in scotland so i guess he is going to be counting on womens votes and couldn't risk a feminist backlash.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:54 PM
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its my official slogan, i feel as soon as someone thinks they know it all, they actually know nothing worth knowing.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:53 PM
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they are exactly the same, its not about the offence taken by the person the slur is aimed at , its about the intent of the person throwing the slur.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:52 PM
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well you failed, i have always tried to empathise with the downtrodden in society, i have always cared about those marginalised and rejected. but all you managed was to help me understand that i am a human being, beautiful yet flawed, happy yet tinged with sadness at times, strong but happy to be weak. you have achived nothing other than to show your soul as ugly and hateful and made me feel that i have nothing to fear and nothing to be ashamed of. i am a man and i am as special as any of nature…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:50 PM
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the use of the phrase "shit test" kinda shows this as someone who is in the PUA community.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:43 PM
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i assumed as much but even the trolls need to be corrected or the narrative will be changed to nobody cares enough to argue against the mysoginist element within this subreddit. edit- they picked out my comment to quote mine, i don't know what to say. i would like to thanks the academy and my wife......
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:41 PM
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if anything it will increase it, when information is scarce people tend to fill in the blanks using their imagination. i personally agree with anonimity for both the accused and accuser in sex crimes cases, but as the current law stands there could be a legal reason bhind not naming his co accused.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:40 PM
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thats possible but i doubt my writing is up to the standard required for what is essentially an internationally known website. i guess AVFM has always been somewhere i assumed to be a bastion of libertarianism.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:30 PM
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i have seen a little but its one of those situations that there are so many restrictions as to what can be reported that i doubt anyone outside the actual case knows whats going on.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:25 PM
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its more than likely that the women involved are related to the child at the centre therefore naming the women would be a de facto naming of the child.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 04:04 PM
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how do i get the goverment to change this. we need to start doing things rather than complaining. who is best to contact?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:51 PM
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what is the best way to change this?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:41 PM
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so is the problem AVFM in its entirety or is it just paul elam?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:56 PM
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i think the tin foil hat is cutting of the circulation to their brain.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:56 PM
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this again? racism is bad, homphobia is bad, actual mysigony and misandry are bad. but if people call you names your an adult, you deal with it or you ignore the person. i don't see any of what you describe and even if it happens occasionally you cannot tell who does this. it could be a brigade from another sub for all you know.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:49 PM
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well i have to agree that AVFM is getting kind of echo chamberish. i also have to agree that being tagged an extremeist is not a problem, any member of the MRM is going to get that no matter how moderate. as for WBB i have to state i have not seen enough of her videos to agree or disagree on that point, i have seen enough to be reasonably aware of her political leanings but can't comment further. i will educate myself in the matter .
/r/MensRights03/06/13 02:19 PM
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i think my problem with AVFM is that even though the majority is good information and passionate advocacy, there are elements of tin foil hat conspiracy and pointless anger at non subjects that could be utilised on more important subjects. like you it was my gateway to the MRM, i still enjoy jto and GWW, but i visit a great deal less than i used too. i find that it's a little sad that there are so few left leaning popular commentaters in the movement. i have found myself tempted to make my own y…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 01:50 PM
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feminist- don't sexualise womens body parts, we can show what we want because our bodies are beautiful and nudity is not sexual. man exposes penis. feminist- how dare you show part of your body, thats sexual and because you are a man its innately bad to show your sexuality.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 01:24 PM
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i am beginning to think that a lot of this movement has maybe outgrown AVFM, its approach has not really changed in the whole time i visited. while i see the need for anger the idea of being imovable and not evolving isn't conducive to a socially forward looking movement. i am also saddened becuase it was nice to have someone within the MRM who was a little left leaning like me.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 01:08 PM
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skepticism is being pervaded by social justice warriors, atheism is about the lack of belief in god but its being co opted by movements to bolster them. theres a powerful faction emerging who is anti skepticism and anti discussion, you just need to look at whats happening at freethough blogs to see what happens when atheism+ does to debate and free exchange of ideas and opinions.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:44 PM
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not mens rights worthy
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:46 AM
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well i bet the sub will reappear with a new name and continue to fight the good fight.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:04 AM
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its okay, we just have a lot of people lookig for any way to hurt us, trolling, tone policing, quote mining and general maccusations of mysiginy, racism etc.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 11:50 PM
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i would make the suggestion that you remove rather than edit the section regarding a woman dressing like a hooker and rape. it could be a line of debate in the future but as it stands even after the edit, its just something thats gonna get quote mined, posted all over reddit and used as an example of us all being soft on rape, stranger rape is not a large part of rape and therefore you would be better served being angry about women rapists who are rarely punished and the false accusations that a…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 11:09 PM
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thanks for reminding me of that, i was remiss in not putting that in my original post.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:36 PM
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this i think is the right answer, men have never had it right. neither have women. right now both genders have it reasonably good but there are still some really shitty problems to being a man still to fix. i cannot see a movement like the MRA flourishing in a time without both widespread access to the internet and the breaking of male gender stereotypes that we are beggining to achive.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:32 PM
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i doubt it would, there would be the usual disproportionate focus on womens rape, i cannot see anything changing the current narrative by changinf the location of the crime,
/r/MensRights02/06/13 10:30 PM
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why would it do that? integrating the system won't fix the underlying problem.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:48 PM
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the focus would be protecting the women from rape just as it is right now, making prisons unisex won't stop white knighting or the idea of women being protected.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:37 PM
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or just continue to protect women at the expense of men.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:31 PM
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i am a little autistic, whats your excuse?
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:26 PM
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no you have basically just been a dick, running around throwing insults at everyone. the purpose of this place is for discussion and debate, not just appearing with a moronic statement and expecting to not have it challenged. oh and i love how you assume i am not a man...i am, and you seem to assume i ma not an mra.... i am. your sir are a class a boounder and not worthy of the waste of further time replying.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:18 PM
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because we are activists for mens rights, we don't claim we are an egalitarian movemtne, we are working for the neglected gender. feminism pretends to be for men and women and equality and the majority of the time its lies, we are just honest, we only want to make up the deficiencies. but yet again its this suit people on the outside threads. its a change your tone/message/name/attitude post, i have no need to change anything, i am happy with what i represent and how i represent it.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 08:54 PM
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what does this drivel have to do with mens rights?
/r/MensRights01/06/13 05:36 PM
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i fail to see the poit to posting this and the buggering off less than 30 minuites later.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:52 PM
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i can only assume this is a poor atempt at satire or the result of a million monkeys banging the keys on a million typewriters till something semi legible appeared.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:51 PM
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anger is not negative, we all have anger but harnessing it in the way you do makes you look like a toddler.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:18 PM
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congratulations, you have removed so much class from this thread its now a marxist utopia.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:17 PM
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so your white knighting for me now? you know better than the rest of us silly men and you must step forward to protect us from the scary feminist lady? you really think so little of us or is it just that anyone who disagrees with you as an asshole?
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:09 PM
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yep thats right, all white knights love it when people support us, your arguements are just pointless a vacuous. anyone wants to talk i am going to listen, i have heard a few feminists who have come here and really contributed to the discussion.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:07 PM
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but you haven't really made any arguement, you have compared her to nazi and thrown insults and attacks at anyone who disagrees with you. your point may be valid but not making an arguement about anything i really cannot tell. do you actually have anything to say that adds to the debate rather than just removing the dignity of it?
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:04 PM
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wow, its the tone police sliding across the bonnet of their car. i have every right to be angry and my anger drives me. anger in itself is not negative, its all about how you use it and if i express my anger in a way that may help this movement then to be honest i don't give a fuck what cracked has to say.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 12:22 AM
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like, like like.....hmmm amazing vocabulary and debating skills.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 11:43 PM
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then speak to a lawyer or someone in the court system.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 05:58 PM
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tell the rueth, you were a child so you can be excused at that point, but your old enough to have morality now, everyday you are quiet about this is another day you allow your father to be falsely accused. get help, own up and accept what comes, it is not your fathers job to suffer so you can continue to live this lie.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 05:29 PM
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so many straws were grasped at.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 05:19 PM
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what i am saying is that any feminists who are for equality have to realise their movement has been stolen by people who despise men, have no compassion for men and who only give damn about women. these people make all the noise, they dictate the narrative and they are the ones helping shape social and political policies. the radical and extreme members of the feminist movement have taken control and every moderate has to understand that by naming themselves as a feminist they are lumping themse…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 10:57 AM
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oh god no, if people just accepted what i thought then they would be idiots, i accept what i think because i think it. my problem here is not with the idea of talking to feminists or listening to their points, my problem is being told to do something or think something or feel something. that''s just not going to happen. and i apologise for assuming, it was a pretty stupid move on my part, i would have been better saying i listen to different viewpoints as long as they are not telling me what to…
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:14 AM
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evidence-check the sidebar, talk to the guys on this page, hell even read my past comments about my experiences with feminism. its not about being hard headed its about someone coming here who disagrees with us and rather than involving themselves in the threads that are here, just creating a thread to tell us to play nice and not label all feminists together, i do not label all feminists together but radfems use liberal feminists and their numbers to exagerate the support they have. the feminis…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:59 PM
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no not saying that at all, if a thread starts about a point and information is discussed then thats a reasonable way of changing opinions and thoughts, just popping up and telling me is just someone telling me how i should act/think/behave/feel. people on here have changed my opinion on many things but not by making a thread and telling me how it is even when the evidence shows otherwise.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:39 PM
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wonder how quickly facebook will close down the anti male groups.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:35 PM
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thats how it works in general discourse, creating a thread to tell me what opinions i should integrate is just a pointless exercise in tone policing.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 11:31 PM
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salon.com is not a feminist publication.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:51 PM
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no one has to and no one should, therefore this entire thread was a waste of time.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:48 PM
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and so is everyone else who says that, i am not getting involved in specifics. i differenciate between professional feminists, egalitarian feminists, rad fems and then the main body of non aligned feminists who give the others power by making their influence and membership seem more represaentative than it actually is.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:47 PM
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well then your an egalitarian and this whole conversation has been futile.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:40 PM
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so why should i givew your opinion more weight than my own?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:40 PM
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god this one again, its not working as an arguement and repeating it constantly is just a waste of everyones time. edit- and you didn't answer my question.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:39 PM
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its still just your opinion that we make ourselves look bad.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:33 PM
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then its not feminism, the definition of feminism has acceptance of the patriarchy bult in. but in the interest of giving you a fair hearing, what is your feminist philosophy?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:32 PM
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explain to me why wanting evidence of a feminist with power and influence doing exactly what you said is a fallacy? if your point holds water then there must be branches of mainstream feminism and mainstream feminists who can provide this. just saying me is an ineffectual arguement when most people in here can give examples of mainstream feminists supporting what happened and they are feminists with power and influence beyond yours.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:31 PM
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name me one branch of feminism which does not believe in the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:28 PM
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nope just saying i have never witnessed any MRA do this but witness feminists do it all the time. no one person speaks for all the MRM but we can all attest to what we see.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:27 PM
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okay, show us a feminist with a puiblic proflie thats large enough to reach out beyond their personal circle who condemmed it.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:22 PM
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but yo do belive in patriarchy though don't you? what about rape culture or objectification?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:17 PM
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but it does have absolutes, patriarchy, rape culture, objectification and privilige amongst them the core beliefs are the arguements which are used as evidence to gain support for the things which hurt us.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:15 PM
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sorry but i do not believ i made feminism or you as arbiter of my ability to express myself. there are shared theories through out feminism that are harmful to men and the majority will not accept input from anyone who will not subscribe to those theories. the few feminists who will work with us are generally grown up enough to survive a debate no matter how heated. i call them as i see them. simple as that, we should not dilute our anger or the purity of our message to appease a bunch of overgr…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:07 PM
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we do act better in general, we don't pretend to be anything other than what we are, we don't co opt other movements or use the state to commit proxy violence on our behalf, we don't scream in the faces of our opponents, we don't advocate genocide of women or turn a blind eye when they are raped. and i am sorry if someone disregards the truth we present because our tone doesn't suit them i can't see them ever accepting it.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:55 PM
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that would happen regardless, the professional feminists have sway with people like the SPLC, changing our tone is not what we should be doing. changing our methods isn't something we should be doing. feminism and our oponents shouldn't be the arbiters of what we say or how we say it.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:42 PM
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NAFALT!!!
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:25 PM
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well i have to say that labelling guys who walked away from a woman you describe as a "cunt" who has some seriously abusive behiours as douchebags is not exactly reasonable. her father may have/or may not have been forced from her life but raising her is not a job that falls on her multiple stepdads either. you came on this sub looking for advice, the advice is to leave her before your life is screwed in a serious way. do you think things are gonna improve for you 2 when your in jail? do you thi…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 06:18 PM
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i prefer to think of it as an example of the fact that the radfems are using their power to punish men rather than help the average feminist .
/r/MensRights29/05/13 11:32 PM
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i just noticed that a lot of their terminology is the same as that used by the radfems, even down to calling us MRE's.......whooda thunk it?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 11:11 PM
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true but most police forces do genuinely investigate claims, cover ups are rare, more regular is a lack of evidence. my father was a cop and weekly the people he and his fellow officers arressted made up many claims against those arresting people because they wanted to escape punishment and accusations against a policeman was the easiest way to sow doubt in the eyes of a jury. that said when someone made allegations my father seriously beat them with his truncheon, he was suspended for a few wee…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:13 PM
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there are a lot more women who don't see things the same way you do.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:51 PM
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my pleasure, i didn't know when i first posted here either.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:47 PM
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i am the same, i advocate and spend more time on mens rights because they affect me mosre, but i never ignore other areas where people are msitreated. i think everyone deserves equal treatment and equal protection.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:47 PM
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its there to stop ninja edits by people who then change what they originally wrote, and then screencap the page to make us look like the crazy mysoginists they wish we actually were. it keeps a copy of the original post so that any changes can be seen easily.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:44 PM
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this makes me feel bad for lesians, a couple of the labian women i know have been stuck in this but there is intense pressure not to report as its felt to show lesbianism in a bad light. i had one friend ostracised for letting down the community because she pressed charges. its a big problem mad worse by the social and group pressure towards silence.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:43 PM
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yes but you also have to understand that its the potential misuse of these policies to silence men or criticism of feminism or the social justice brigade. as Jimmy Carr said "the best jokes make you laugh and think your a terrible person" near the knuckle humour can open discussion on so many thing, but i agree there is blatently offensive parts of facebook and they need dealing with. but like so many rules/laws/policies they could be misused. there is also the fact that elements of these new po…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:36 PM
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these are the same cops who prosecute rapists and who die in the line of duty protecting us. i cannot accept this idea that all cops are rotten because a few of them are dicks, that same logic is what gets all men painted as rapists and predators.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:17 PM
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i had previously stated on this sub that with no evidence either way that i reserved judgement on this. now that a clear investigation has exonorated the officers i can only say fuck her and her lying face.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:15 PM
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well it is what happened to me, i spent so much time explaining why i didn't stop her, didn't stop my erection, and didn't stop my orgasm that i just got disheartened and gave up. its a tale a hear from other guys a lot too, guys raped by men tend to get a better response but i honestly think thats due to homophobia and the preference to lock up gay men rather than women.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:11 PM
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actually men would be expected to answer why we didn't fight her off even when injuring the woman is more likely to lead to criminal charges than her actually raping us. we would be expected to explain how we got hard when we don't want it, men and women both have problems with the way sexual assault and rape is dealt with but i don't believe that i can ignore womens issues even when i focus on men, i just wish many in the feminist community could do the same for men.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 08:01 PM
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you using "femsplain" is as bad as the idiots who use "mansplain" refute points but don't use the tactics of morons. i see your posts regularly and see you have the intellegence to argue points without resort to silliness.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 07:49 PM
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yes but diagreeing with sexist policy is not a hatred of women, its a reasonable disagreement with paying the same fees for less use. as for facebook my problem is that there may be an angle of offense involved but there are also arguements of free speech, whether the new rules will be applied with gender neutrality and if the rules will be used to silence men who disagree with feminism, or some feminist points. and i must say most women are not feminists, i would say that most women are egalita…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 07:45 PM
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i think it may be a troll too, but trolls of this kind are usually there to either gather replies to quote mine or if they are ignored then we are accused of not keeping our house in order so i felt the need to argue back. well that and the fact i like to debate and argue too.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:57 PM
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i did read and most of it seemed to be about his inability to look at tits. looking is not bad but expecting anyone to dress to suit someone else is incredibly self centred, also the idea he can only control himself if women are covered is an idea that seems saudi in its methods.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:41 PM
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exactly, this sub and this movement is not about moving society back to the dark ages.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:17 PM
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this idiocy, i doubt anyone in this movement agrees with this crap. we do not need women covered up because that implies no man can help himself......which is patently bull.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:13 PM
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a glitch in the matrix has occurred.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:45 AM
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well i have questions and suggestions question one, is she trying to make a happy family with the new bf while cutting you out? can you not arrange to have the child with you at a neutral location such as your parents (which also helps grandparents and perhaps siblings involved)? does your son have any medical needs beyond that of a regular newborn? suggestions, one get a lawyer and draw up a visitation schedule you can both live with. if your both reasonable this can probably be done without in…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:37 AM
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because a kids opinion in these matters are not formed, i thought having sex with a 37 year old woman when i was 14 was awesome, till i realised after 9 years of bad relationships just how badly and thoroughly it messed me up. she may find it fine right now and may find it fine later in life but it could just as easily screw her up in later years. there is a reason the age of consent exists.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:50 AM
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seriously, its 4chan. its practically trollville. i wouldn't give it a second thought.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 11:58 PM
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one of the most truthfull statements i have read on reddit today. have an upvote.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 10:28 PM
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yes but they do tend to have those three choices, and if thats your poison then its great. i tend to like my ladies, smaller, tattoo'd and peirced. and i know guys who like a chubby ladies. but i have to say the fact my only complaint about these magazines is boredom not any explicit concerns with the covers or content.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 10:23 PM
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because i don't know what happened and you don't know what happened, making assumptions based on what we believe happened makes us as bad as the people who always assume the guy is guilty in these cases.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 12:09 AM
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its the assumption that because the page is an object that we don't understand theres more to the real person, its not objectification its appreciation in my opinion.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:59 PM
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because if you don't your gonna end up scarred, dead or in jail and thats going to be worse. i hope someone on here has more concrete ideas but i am not familiar with the social and legal system in the U.S.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:58 PM
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trust me it won't work like that, you need to get out now, her violence has escelated quickly. long term plans are fine but you need to think short term. you need to get out, its the only way and as hard as it is, your going to have to do it.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:47 PM
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yeah thats my point, there is this idea that guys only appreciate one idea of beauty and we objectify it, its an oversimplification of mens sexuality. enjoy looking at her though, i can't see why its gonna hurt anyone.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:46 PM
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i think there may be a point to be made on the lack of variety on the models in these mags but that doesn't make them evil, just dull. i always go for bizzarre magazing becuasae i like more of an alt girl style but the female form is not a terrible thing. neither is the male form either.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:34 PM
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are there friend you can crash with? moving from couch to couch sucks but its worth it in the end.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:32 PM
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leave man, she will end up kiling you, if you can get evidence of her threats to falsely accuse you then fine but if you can't you still need to go. have your parents be there when you leave so they can both see her physical condition and b so they may witness any outburst. protect yourself but leave man, take it from someone who knows.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:23 PM
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my worry is the new puritans that are rising to prominance, it seems less about damaging sexuality and more about limiting everyones sexuality and sexual urges.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:21 PM
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actually i was wrong they are covered by a "modesty board" which obscures everything bar the title. my mistake but its still a reasonable assumption that children and passers by cannot see them unless they choose to.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:11 PM
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yes its been the past year or so its standard practice to do that or use a cardboard sleeve covering it, it only applies in larger stores, the wee corner shop won't do that, but at the same time even the little family run shop will put them on the top shelf.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:01 PM
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the covers of mens magazines in the uk in most stores are covered with a silver cover so you can only see the name of the magazine and nothing else.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:52 PM
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exactly, its someone having a fun poke at a lot of mens distain for shopping, if the men were all herded in there then its wrong but there are many moments in my life i could have killed for a place like that. the only thing that bothers me is that it won't cater for people like my ex who hated shopping as much as me.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:47 PM
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i haven't seen the film yet but i think its either going to be a coming of age story , so its a reasonable approximation of many peoples life or its just a plain old example of whoring the idea of hot lesbian sex out to the arty community. i hope its the first example but either way i don't think its really a mens rights issue.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:45 PM
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no its an adult woman having sex with a 13 year old, no amount of shiny feelings makes that rape good.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:37 PM
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i don't know enough to have an opinion, but all i feel at the moment is pity for another washed up and fucked up ex child star.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 06:28 PM
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true, but its going to be a test as to how mens issues are recieved after our campaigning.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 09:20 PM
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i can agree with that, but cases like these tend to motivate everyone, the laws will be looked at and hopefully changed in a way that makes every teenager more secure (as long as there is nothing wrong with the relationship) we just have to be active in trying to make whatever legislation comes through gender neutral.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:34 PM
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she's not being punished because she commited stautory rape, she is being victimised because she is a lesbian. the charges are trumped up and clearly motivated by homophobia. i think some teenage boys are hurt by the system but trying to ompare this to abuse of the statutory rape laws is just false.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 08:19 AM
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doubtful it may be a false flag but its more likely some teenage douche trying to be edgy don't know why they assume its an MRA though.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 10:02 PM
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speak to a lawyer is all i can say, theres not enough information to say anything else.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 08:41 PM
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all i can tell you is that this post makes no sense to me.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 07:57 PM
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i love how after being a strong independant womyn, she says she is happy to fuck a guy if he pays for shit.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 01:18 PM
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but i don't think either of those are good enough reasons, its a harsh thing but i believe someone right to a life is more important than the offchance someone else may come forward.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 11:53 PM
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yes, i have not seen one compelling reason not to keep them anonymous till they have been convicted
/r/MensRights17/05/13 09:43 PM
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true but i would rather spend a little money encouraging women to look into it, than start with quotas that screws it up for everyone.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 10:34 PM
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i think you can be fair in encouraging women, you don't need quotas, you just need to show it as an acceptable choice and then leave it up to the individual.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 10:23 PM
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theres a difference between a few women forcing their way into it and a mass take up. like i said its not gender that causes the problem, its image. women seemed less happy with the idea of being geeky or nerdy than guys did, so those were relatively male dominated. its nothing to do with the work it was more the idea that STEM was somewhere you went when you failed at other things.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 09:09 PM
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in university thats probably true, and since its a bunch of middle class white girls with a chip on their shoulder (generally) that makes it very scary indeed.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 08:12 PM
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i don't agree, i think STEM has a bit of an image problem that may put women off. its not about sexism its about the fact its only recently been marketed to women. thats why my sister was seen as strange for wanting to go into the noisy, dirty dangerous world of farriery but now my 13 year old daughter wants to be an engineeer and has pretty good support. it just takes time for new ideas to drip down through the populous.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 08:11 PM
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i agree.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 08:08 PM
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my pleasure.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 06:26 PM
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egalitarian, its about equality but with none of the hatefull baggage .
/r/MensRights15/05/13 06:04 PM
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oh i think so, i think there are ares online, in the print media and on tv that could be invaluable in promoting women in stem. we need something to happen, AA has left us with too many dropouts and women who are there but aren't good enough. we need to get the women who are good enough and could be brilliant to consider it as an academic choice.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:01 PM
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masculism is a fairly bullshit term, i only really see it used by traditionalists so its not really relevant to the MRM. this is probably the wrong sub to ask in, we can fill you in on mens rights but not on something like that. if your asking about the issues and theories of the MRM, they are fairly simple. a healthy idea of the male gender. legal equality, social equality and protections. and equality of oppertunity. as far as STEM fields go, i am not sure, i think maybe the course needs to be…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 04:09 PM
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yes but as much as i want it i don't see independence happening. it's a pity though, i think scotland gets the balance between men and women just about right, and i believe as an independent country it could become a beacon.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 03:37 PM
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but its not teach them not to rape, its teach men not to rape. its a way of subtly implying that only men rape and its insideous, bigoted and ill informed. if the campaign was what you say it is then it would be a "this is what rape is" but it isn't.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:28 PM
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this is why i love living in scotland, it seems a little more enlightened when it comes to many social issues.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 01:24 PM
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no just stop celebrating these freakish perversions of humanity, start to bring some realism into toys.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 01:21 PM
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ah wel, i am not privy toi american law, i only know how it works under scots law and prenups are legally binding here.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:43 AM
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its anger, plain old anger. a lot of men in here are angry, and for good reason. being denied an input to your childs life in their formative years.....will make you angry, having a partner beat and abuse you....and then the police show up and arrest you.....can make you angry, being beaten by a woman and having no one care about you or provide a shelter for you when there are dozens of places for women....makes you angry, when your raped, yet even the legal system won't call it a crime....makes…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:41 AM
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because it tends to fly under the same flag and i doubt you would class N.O.W as radical feminists, or harriet harmann or even those who campaign for VAWA but they all hurt men so the laws the want enacted will be enacted. feminisms problems aren't the radicals, the problem is the women who talk moderate yet have no care or respect for men as a gender. i have met many intellegent feminists who i can fully support and work with, but in general i find a lot of feminists will just cut you out if yo…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:36 AM
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if she loves you then she will sign. it sounds more like she is looking for an out herself, seems that if all you want is to avoid paying for another mans kid then thats reasonable, and if she disagrees then she is probably hoping that will happen.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:22 AM
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i can see that working, i like the third option, it would work well in U.S.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:21 AM
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then please, lay some knowledge on me.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:17 AM
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wow, your debating skills have literally floored me.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:56 PM
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so basically you are argueing for america to become more socialist, thats a new one. but i expect if you cut what you paid then drug companies might start charging everyone more realistic prices, and develpment might slow but o doubt it would stop. and if your arguement is that by not seeing it then it must be there? thats a pretty weak answer.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:45 PM
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i am okay with this, barbie is a terrible image of womanhood for young girls and young boys. boys toys are not much better but i can't support barbie just because boys image problems are crappy too.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:29 PM
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tell me about it, at least in the U.K. the rise of minority parties are changing things, but i can't see the same happening in the U.S. without a total shift in the political landscape.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:28 PM
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exactly, the whole of the top in politics on both sides of the atlantic only care about helping their wealthy mates and propping up their schoolchums companies. i saw the last american election and didn't see a massive difference between romney and obama, and i doubt the situation would be too different if romney had won.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:24 PM
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i have met many americans in my life, they tend to be friendly, warm, good humoured and nice. the one thing they are not is stupid, i doubt they would allow themselves to be ripped off so blatently, and if they do then they need a kick up the arse and to sort it out themselves. and i don't see how america has helped the worlds security in the last 30 years or so, post world war i can agree but since about the early 80's its done nothing of note.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:19 PM
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but the system is broken, but a sticking plaster on that open wound is counter productive. IMO the american;left needs to tell obama to work for what he promised, rather than watering it down, and the right needs to give a little more to make their whole society better.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:14 PM
1

exactly, it pisses me off that he is praised as changing thing so much, he just lines the pockets of the wealthy at the top. the common man is forced into over priced insurance and the middle class have to subsidise everyonr else, while the wealthy just increase their wealth.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 08:10 PM
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oh please. maybe you should think of your own peoples interests before ours, i can live without you antagonising arab countries and policing africa if it meant that poor people in your own country could get health treatment. and as far as i know the vast majority of drugs come from european countries and indian researchers do more for research and development than the uk and us combined.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:52 PM
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true, but any reasonable country should have universal healthcare, what obama presents is a bastardisation of that. healthcare should be provided by the goverment and should be the same for all. i am just saying that this might push the system hard enough that everyone gets a fair shake at a healthy life.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:34 PM
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hopefully this will encourage americans to push for true, eurpean style universal healthcare.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:25 PM
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if you mean morale then no i doubt it would improve. mens morale and sex may be linked but i think officers and their ability to lead, motivate and befriend their charges is more important. this whole thread boils down to "guys need to fuck they can't help it" and thats a gender stereotype that screws men up and screws men over.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 03:56 PM
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bullshit, men are able to control their sexual desire, men are capable of behaving themselves and men are not savages. we do not need prostitutes, we can happily rub one out and carry on as usual.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 03:44 PM
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so yet again, mens sexuality is inherantly bad, we can't control ourselves and our desires so we need a hooker platoon. are you seriously saying that?
/r/MensRights14/05/13 03:07 PM
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trust me it doesn't hurt. its mostly laughable, but there is also an element of feeling sorry for anyone who is stupid enough to buy into this crap.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 01:29 PM
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well in their defense, it does smell like perfume to them.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 12:09 AM
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i do believe in gender equality, but this feminist is indefensable. transgendered women are women and they should be able to join in with women without being devalued. the idea of women treating transgendered women as less than women is totally wrong and should not be tolerated. as soon as ypou dictate that you know a persons gender better than they do then you have officially become a bigot and no movement should stand for that. edit. i guess that means there may be a third option, people who s…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:18 PM
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really? and you know this how?, they are valid questions and i would ask them, followed shortly by the fact that if i had known about them i would have been in their life. you can speak for everyone? the simple fact is that women can earn a wage, women can stand on their own 2 feet, and if the can't there is shared custody. there is no place in a modern society for child support, it assumes men are walking cash machines and women can't be independent.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:08 PM
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i didn't see it as a decleration of war, pointing out that bad MRA's and bad feminist are always going to exist. i see no point to pointing it out. and i don't see how that has any bearing on the treatment of M2F transgendered people. is your point that some feminists transgernders trying to join feminism is the same as feminism downplaying mens issues?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:51 PM
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oh i think its a conversation to be had, just in its own context. using the fact i was prolife to shut down an unrelated discussion would just be morally bankrupt. but i can see those passions, its a debate that goe's right to the heart of humanity, whichever side of the debate your on.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:38 PM
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oh please, if your gonna troll at least try harder then that. you could start soft then ramp it up or maybe make it at least something you could quotemine. dumbass.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:33 PM
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what you have said both contributes nothing to the conversation, and undermines the cause of both MRA's and transgender activism. because there are a few asshole MRA's that makes us all bad, i bet at the same time you scream that andrea dworkin and valerie solanus are not the arbitors of feminist thought. heres an idea, put forward an opinion on the post at hand or create your own and debate the point you are trying to make. or if i have misunderstood then please show me the error of my ways.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:31 PM
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its just a rehash of the jezebell patriarchy list. nothing new, lots that weren't honest and nothing that helps men.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:18 PM
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if i was conversing with this imaginary child i would say, "have you asked your mother why she had a child she couldn't support? have you asked her why she felt entitled to have me support her life when she can do it herself? and have you asked why you are here angry about money rather than being angry about me either not being there for you or having your mother shut me out of your life?"
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:16 PM
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ah using the same arguements, and the same tone and the same style of post as "the other poster" really. your attempt at trooling is wasted here when its a useful conversation for us all to have.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:12 PM
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i don't think you are. i think in these days of equality the idea of primary custody for a parent and the idea of child support are ridiculous.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:11 PM
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oh i don't mind that debate and i think their opinions can be as respected as mine, but when someone uses a persons pro/anti stance to end a conversation then it seems foolish. though i exempt that opinion in the case of someone trying to derail a conversation.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:10 PM
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i am pro choice but it seems funny that you have no interest in talking about other viewpoints. why did you post here, you obviously have no intention in listening, learning or debating. also your point doesn't seem to be about abandonment at all, its only about cash, so go to hell because you are either a troll or so intellectually bankrupt that a conversation is a waste of my time.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:04 AM
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so while most of us on here are trying to escape out gender roles and make something more positive for ourselves, your advocating going back to more traditional gender roles? strange, or is it more of a "thanks obama!" thing?
/r/MensRights11/05/13 07:30 PM
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why will the word he or she hurt anyone? would being called a girl hurt you?
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:48 PM
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what harm is using the adjective she? if she decides later to stay male then its really not going to hurt anyone.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 03:54 PM
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i don't have a massive problem with this, its basically teaching women they can be resposnsible for their physical safety. its a great deal better than the "men protect the wimmins." crap that usually gets shared.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 03:46 PM
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i have to say i enjoy twox, theres a lot of smart women who care about us guys as much as we care about them. i have had many good chats/debates there. check them out, they have taught me new things i never knew about women .
/r/MensRights11/05/13 03:15 PM
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amazingly my comment was there for less than 3 minuites before being deleted.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:16 PM
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yes because home births are exactly the same as starving your child?
/r/MensRights09/05/13 03:26 AM
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sorry but it seems less of a mens rights issue and more of a you having a problem with women issue. birth control is needed to stop unwanted pregnancies, that helps men and women, it also allows women to enjoy a more relaxed sex life and their male partners enjoy that freedom too, and in rare cases its a medical necessity. as for you post title, no woman would ever accuse a guy of raping her if he just spoke to her. if you don't like the way people talk to you then don't talk to them. goverment …
/r/MensRights09/05/13 01:39 AM
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EH? what point are you trying to make?
/r/MensRights09/05/13 01:19 AM
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hookup culture exists because people like sex, because people realise that sex and relationships are two seperate things, you can have one without the other or you can intertwine them. nothing is wrong with casual sex, problems onyl arise later, if there is pregnancy, a false allegation of rape or an actual rape takes place during the encounter. hooking up is not a problem but there are problems surrounding 9it that are seperate from the sex acts themselves.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 12:47 AM
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i can agree with that, i just disagreed with a previous post about always being a bad choice.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:30 PM
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possibly but i still believe it is the mother and fathers right to make the decision on where the baby will be born, and as the mother is the one doing the work during birth i would let her have the casting vote .
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:25 PM
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that its a personal decision, you have to balance the risks against the positives.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:09 PM
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disagree, a relaxed birthing mother is a healthier mum and most studies show that less stress during birth helps babies feel better and bond better. its the lack of midwifes that cause fatalities.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:31 PM
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this made me happy to see that most women actually care what we think and feel.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:30 PM
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no but wishing someone dead is never a healthy activity. in jest it can be understood but if thats a real thought get help.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:17 PM
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i have been rqaped by a woman and i was totally ignored in any pain or any difficulties that arose. i know what it feels like and i don't wish death on her. you cannot debate, educate or change the opinions of a dead person.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:33 PM
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not true, women raping women is an exceedingly touchy subject (along with domestic violence in lesbian relationships) because there is no male involved to put the aggressor status on.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:31 PM
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there are 2 kinds of feminsts. feminists who are egalitarian in all but name. they just lack awareness of mens issues rather than actively campaigning against them or demonising men. in my opinion this makes up the majority of modern feminists. 2.professional feminists/misandrists. they campaign against us, attemp to silence us and attribute all of societies ills to us. they tend to find places of power and influence and use that power to hurt men under the guise of equality. its not a conspirac…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:30 PM
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i am not a feminist, read my post history. maybe you shouldn't assume that right and left wing will both have people on either side of the gender debate.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 12:56 PM
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actually it was more a concern as to why she didn't feel she could speak up, was there a reason for this, my point was badly written but i am half asleep. my concern is that there is an even more unhealthy aspect to this relationship, i don't know if there was a coersive element to this or if she felt threatened or just didn't feel confident enough to object. being raped is never the victims fault, and i am not going to make excuses for anyone who does. i put my opinion here because i can be for…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:40 PM
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so then there is no need to add a veto then.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 04:04 PM
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yes its rape. consent wasn't asked for or given, and i doubt they had an understanding like a longer term relationship regarding sex. but i have to say her own behaviour seems strange, if she decided she didn't want to sleep with him again why not break things off? why not say something? so basically it was rape, but she could have prevented it by at least making an attempt to stop him rather than continue to pretend to be aslepp.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:28 PM
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because if no one takes a stand then educators will continue to punish free expression when it disagrees with their worldview or opinions.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:12 PM
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its outdated in its sources, its got too much of a conservative slant and it makes assumptions that one singular factor is the over riding concern
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:06 PM
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so basically your saying no to the o5riginal post. thanks, we got there in the end
/r/MensRights07/05/13 02:34 PM
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may i ask what that has to do with veto power over abortion?
/r/MensRights07/05/13 02:10 PM
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no i brought the political slant into it.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 01:37 PM
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pointless right wing bullshit from the same group fighting gay marriage. we can't break our own gender roles if we try to reinforce womens gender roles. lets try to take the politics out of this and try to work inclusively with all political backgrounds, or we will end up looking just like the professional feminists try to portray us. i.e. right wing, conservitive, bigoted and intellectually bankrupt.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 01:02 PM
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the main gist of the article was good but i have criticisms. the fat jokes were pointless and stupid, just because someone behaves like an arsehole doesn't mean you get carte blanche to behave like one too. bringing her attractiveness into it just reinforces the idea that only ugly women make false accusations and could be seen as reinforcing that only ugly women rape too. bringing the idea of rape fantasy into it is pointless, a fantasy is a fantasy. sexual fantasies are not an example of wanti…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 12:58 PM
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exactly, many guys would fear compeating against girls because of the fear of hurting them, i tend to think non contact sports should be de segregated all the way up to professional and international levels but contact sports are a little different. we can't have the world push that men are monsters who are so much stronger and can hurt girls more, yet complain if guys don't want to be put in the position of hurting them.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 10:58 AM
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no you fixed nothing, you just loaded it with symbolic language.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 09:44 AM
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i never said legalit, i said i am not getting into a discution on the morality of abortion, whether its right or wrong is unimportant to the originlal post.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 09:43 AM
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i can grasp that a man may be hurt by a woman aborting his child, i accept that this is not an easy question to answer. abortion is an unpoleasant thing , but that doesn't mean its wrong. i will be honest and say i would rather a child was killed when it was unaware and barely formed than a child be born into abuse, misery and a lack of love, with parents or a parent who cares nothing for that child. and i do not believe that anyones rights should be extended to force someone to surrender their …
/r/MensRights07/05/13 09:42 AM
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no because too many mainstream feminists have marginalised us, we have been marginalised as a group, as a gender and as people. no one can give me evidence of feminists working on mens rights problems, unless its just to shout "patriarchy" till it all goes away.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:11 PM
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sorry but i will not continue to derail this, you have my feelings about the validity of the original post.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 02:21 PM
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then your arguement is with abortion not the rights of women or men. you cannot force another person to go through something so extreme. this is not killing a kid this is abortion, the use of loaded language helps no one in this debate.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:38 PM
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no, if abortion was illegal, or banned then it wouldn't be a veto. you cannot veto something that someone is not allowed to do.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:37 PM
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because the debate you want is on the morality of abortion, i am not here to debate that. i added my two pennies worth on the matter of the posters question and i said that you were adding nothing to that particular debate.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:38 AM
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i know, i have a low opinion of the legal system here but i think you need more proof than your own blogs and a few tears, and i reckon if they had to hand over all the information on the threats they got a remarkably larege amount would originate from themselves. courts of law are not like the court of public opinion and i doubt mainstream feminists are gonna throw themselves on the pyre in solidarity.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:55 AM
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i hate to be the one to say this but as much as i think GWW rocks in so many ways, we can't ask her to do everything, she puts so much into our cause yet does have her own life. if she was working professionally on our behalf then cool, but she is a regular woman with a regular job and a regular life, only thing not regular is her intellect .
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:48 AM
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after a crappy day this made me laugh so hard i woke my cat up. thanks peeps.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 12:45 AM
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forcing a woman to stay pregnant is just as repugnant, pregnancy is a risky, body changing hormone filled minefield and to be made to go through that against your will is nothing short of torture.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:39 PM
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wow, your debating skills astound me.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:14 PM
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funny, if the genders were reversed, they would be going nuts. there would be screams of " just letting guys touch her wasn't an invitation to do any more" its another example of men having a different standard of behaviour to women.....even in the eyes of feminists. if men criticised a woman who said she was sexually assaulted, they wouldn't be pillorying her if she was grinding against the guy beforehand.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:48 PM
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to get pregnant you have to place your penis in a woman, shit will fertilize gardens not wombs. secondly, this still has no bearing on the original post.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:47 PM
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my pleasure, i think when i am wrong i should aknowledge that i am
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:46 PM
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i am sorry but why is a woman who would terminate an unwanted pregnancy "stupid". i felt the need to post because i felt your original post added nothing to the original point of the thread. and even when contraception is used there is a tiny chance of failure so it might be a preventable situation but every so often fate aligns and people end up in a negative situation for both parties.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 01:12 PM
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your arguement is not a mens rights arguement, its an anti abortion arguement. i will not debate abortion on here because its not part of mens rights. i will debate child support, custody arrangements, and financial abortions. but i am sorry i will not debate you on this, i am pro choice, you are pro life. neither of us is likely to change our opinions on this.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 01:03 PM
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ah the questioning feminism is misogony line. not too original.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 12:59 PM
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ah so in other words, an open ended statement that can be used to prove any position you wish it to. i am sorry but i belive anyone is welcome to be part of the MRM, if they want to be part of things and help men then they are welcome and you can disagree with what they stand for all you want. it doesn't make you right.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 12:46 PM
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thus showing your point that trans people expect and demand approval moot.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 12:11 PM
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if he genuinely felt entitled to approval he wouldn't have asked, he would have demanded it. and the only thing i have seen when it comes to trans people is they don't want approval, they just want to be treated as a whole person. they don't want to be treated like they are freaks, or crazy or a danger to society. all any trans person i have met want is to be treated as a person and to be recognised as they gender they have always been inside.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:47 AM
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no a man shouldn't. the arguement for paternal rights being given up legally is one that has merit, but no one in should force a woman to either go through an abortion against her will or force her to deliver a child she isn't ready for or wanted by her.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:39 AM
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sorry but what does this add to the conversation? if your anti abortion then fine but throwing stuff like this out doesn't make anything better for anyone.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:31 AM
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okay i will put it simply. someone who believes in patriarchy theory is hardly likely to be posting here and looking for approval.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:21 AM
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my concern is for those who troll us gently, those who try to tone police, those who pretend to be one of us so they can incite and quote mine, those who concern troll to make us the movement they want us to be. as i said in my original post, i do point out when i fear someone to be a troll, but i give the benefit of the doubt and give my constructive answer. maybe its wrong of me to assume that a newer account is a troll, but i think many of us here have good reason to be paranoid. that being s…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 11:20 AM
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leave, escape flee. in that order, this isn't going to get better, in fact i expect after last night it is going to get worse. now she feels everyone will back her up she will not fear the cops being called, she will not fear retribution or punishment for what she does to you. but here's the biggest reason, you don't deserve it. you tried to help and it failed, cut your losses. its not your fault, you can't fix her, you can't change her and you can't live like this. your better than this so plea…
/r/MensRights04/05/13 10:25 PM
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this was the point i clumsily tried to make earlier, trans folk are trans because they are trapped in the wrong gender, there is no chosing because it suits them. i feel that that kinda attitude is a throwback to times when humans were ignorant of so much.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:56 PM
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why?
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:17 PM
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yes and i don't see a patriarchy theory observant as likely to want our approval, you see the flaw in your logic don't you?
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:02 PM
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yes because its just that simple isn't it? being transgender has nothing to with which side of the fence has the greener grass, if that was the cause no one would become a man. edit. spelling and also i am being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:51 PM
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i have to agree, if he had simply stated that he is happy as long as someone is honest about the gender they transitioned from then i would have been cool, but putting it the way he did is just wrongminded and rude. and i also have to wonder what his point adds to the conversation about whether trangendered people are welcome here.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:44 PM
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as i said i didn't want any information from you. and i also think you can be anti feminist and not be hateful. i don't hate all feminist and only really have wrath for those who hate me. oh and i am very cheerful tonight but thanks.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:41 PM
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edit. i was directing this comment to bohica, i am happy to have a new friend in the subreddit.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:38 PM
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we do give a shit, this a man your talking to so what effects him affects us. if you want to be a giant asshat feel free. just do it on your own time and don't lump us all in with your backwards wrongheadedness.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:32 PM
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if i am honest i don't want to know, i get the overwhelming feeling this is a troll or a feminist trying to get a rise out of us. if the forum is displayed it will lead to accusations of scary MRA's overtaking the forum. i will give you the benefit of the doubt OP, i very rarely see any violent post or posts espousing violence, when they do happen i see the fine men and women of this board take issue with that, i have never seen the community here accept encitement of violence, claims that women…
/r/MensRights04/05/13 05:27 PM
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consent is sexy, yeah right i am beggining to see that that only applies to women or there would be a slew of feminist activists on this page yelling for blood.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:59 PM
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true, but i don't see what that has to do with my original point.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:56 PM
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i couldn't agree more. if we as a movement deny that others suffer, we become as bad as those we chastise. i see areas of life that women suffer and that men suffer too, some we can fix for both men and women at the same time. for example if we reform paternity/maternity leave to have both parents taking the same time off then there would be no reason to discriminate against women in the labour market. and i think there are areas in terms of society that women suffer that can't be legislated, th…
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:55 PM
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well, i actually had this pegged as satire. what a pile of rubbish, the solution to mens problems is not to de-evolve to a point in history that has nothing to do with the current point of our culture. congratulations, your looking like the MRA version of dworkin, so pleas etake this crap and throw it out like it should have been for at least 40 years. its an insult to the intellegence and an insult to those of us who are breaking out of our defined male gender roles.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:50 AM
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to be honest it smacks of lazy writing "women and children" seems to be todays shorthand for " not the bad ones/terrorists/soldiers" it has a bit of general sexism but its more a lazy assed writers way of keeping an article to the correct length.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:29 AM
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not particularly, there is nothing safe about a bubble, there is nothing fair about a bubble and there is nothing logical about a bubble. i can appreciate that many women feel better with a female councilor or a female police officer, but too many so called safe spaces are just areas for bigotry to grow in.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:16 AM
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i can appreciate what your saying, but as a pro choice person i agree with her underlying message. men get the shitty end of the stick but i will not let my distain for "professional feminists" allow me to be anything other than supportive of women who want the choice when it comes to abortion or birth control. i will shout about the unfairness of mens lot in the whole reproductive rights, but not at the expense of my belief in freedom of choice or freedom to protect yourself from pregnancy.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:13 AM
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not sure i would call it creepy, maybe far fetched.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:07 AM
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that is not an intention of mine, but at the same time you cannot expect me to accept a label i feel is false. i am egalitarian not feminist. i do not feel how i label myself affects how we interact, you seem like a sensible, erudite and interesting person. so i would love to be your ally, i would love to fight injustices side by side, and enjoy a refreshing beverage at the end. i don't want you to hate yourself, and if thats your idea of feminism then run with it, its a very therapeutic way to …
/r/MensRights03/05/13 12:05 AM
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sorry i must have misread somewhere down the thread, but my 2 other points are still valid.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:35 PM
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true, but to ignore anger from others about how they feel would be foolish. i think if it stopped as a practice the world would be a better place. but i am not gonna rage about it even though i understand others do.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:42 PM
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no, someone made a decision for you that they had no right to. you have humanity but someone tried to remove it. oh and i am not an intactivist, just a beliver in leaving nature alone uless we have to change something.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:22 PM
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i tie humanity to choice, to people caring about the feelings of that person. selling a part of a person you took without permission dehumanises men, as it would anyone. being circumcised doesn't make you less than human but being forced into it with no input from you shows that others don't value as a person or a human.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:05 PM
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maybe my way of putting it was a little on the extreme side, but i can appreciate i was a little overzealous.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:01 PM
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i have been there, and i have been in the situation when we had a kid, once we reached that point the situation stopped being about us and started to be about the kid. but i can appreciate how it starts, but i can't support anything after that.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:41 PM
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ah sorry my bad. true, i think the sister and her ex should both sort this out like adults, but if they can't be adults someone has to step in for the sake of the kid. i believe that people should be looking out for the baby and not the mother.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:38 PM
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exactly, but none of that absolves her of her responsibility to her child to inform her/his father.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:31 PM
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apart from give him the chance to know his child, or the childs right to know his father. it is not down to your sister to make this decision on her own, and as you describe her she seems to make bad decisions. you shouldn't be compounding those by colluding in abusing her unborn child.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:31 PM
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true but this isn't a friends with benefits situation, she actively stayed with him even when he used her, cheated in her and doesn't look after his other kids. is that the kinda guy you would have sex with? i sure as hell wouldn't.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:25 PM
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yet another excuse, you don't have to tell him he is the father, send him an anonymous message saying she is pregnant and let him take it from there, if he is the useless article your sister says he is then he won't bother.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 07:24 PM
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what reasons would they be? most people have to at least like the person they have sex with, i can't see it being fun if its someone you dislike intently.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:32 PM
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1, and it isn't hers either. she is half the people it took to create the kid. she can't make the whole decisions. find a friend of his and pass on the information anonymously, use a fake facebook or symilar. okay it was probably phrased wrong, my intent waas to make the point that she has given you her side and not his so its probably not as bad as she makes out, and if it is i will eat my words.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:30 PM
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i have 3 points to make. this decision is neither yours or your sisters to make, the child cannot be abused in this way. you seem to be constantly, avoiding your responsibility in this. you know the right thing to do and we shouldn't have to convince you of it. your sisters description about this man seems terrible, yet she stayed with him and obviously continued to have sex with him, if he had been as terrible as she says i hardly think she would continue to be DTF.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 10:46 AM
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i am NOT a feminist, i do not believe in patriarchy, do not subscribe to "rape culture", i cannot sit silently while men are demonised and the concepts of privelidge and oppression are just laughable to me. i am an egalitarian because i feel everyone is important, not just little areas, i may wear different hats at times when i am advocating but it doesn't mean i prioritise anyone over anyone else. feminism does do that. maybe its not that i am really a feminist, maybe your really an egalitarian…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:04 PM
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i admit i try not to do that, but tongue biting is a 2 way street. i expect many MRA'S bite theirs at the mentions of rape culture or patriarchy. and i don't think the MRM pushes women out, it tends to only exclude feminists (and not all feminists at that) feminism doesn't equal women. but my original point still stands, the MRM is about men and boys, not wider social justice/movements. i agree that the feminists are bad stuff gets a little old at times but it serves to shine alight on injustice…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 08:18 PM
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when you come here to talk, to share ideas and listen to us while we listen to you. thats when i will appreciate your input. oh and i would imagine if the world saw us as a joke you wouldn't bother with us. fear can do funny things to people with hateful ideologies
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:36 PM
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i tried that, any egalitarian movement i have dealt with always ends up focusing on womens issues primarily, its another example of mens feeling and experiances being marginalised. the MRM exists because it is needed and other movements have failed us time and time again. anyone who wants to work with us is welcome, just as i feel welcome when i support the areas in life which are genuine problems for women, but i just don't feel mens rights can be helped with any movement other than the MRM. in…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:15 PM
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because you fail to differentiate between regular reasonable feminists and "professional" feminists who use their feminism as a weapon to attack men. i think the difference is that the MRA never put itself forward as anything other than a mens rights movement, we don't argue that we advocate on behalf of women, but feminism and feminists constantly tell us they are for equality. if your for equality then you look at the suffering of boths sides, but feminism doesn't do that even though it claims…
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:19 PM
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there is no pain killers given when baby boys are circumcised. they are too small for it, studies show that a large amount of young boys actually go into shock due to the pain. i think the world needs to change its opinion, this whole MGM good FGM bad mentality must stop. i can agree the medical standards of those doing it vary when it comes to gender but both are evil and both are done purely to curb natural human sexuality.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:51 PM
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my pleasure, i just feel if this becomes a movement that is related to a "side" then we all lose out. feminism has become synonymous with the left and that alienates everyone on the right. i am left of centre politically but even i can see the problems men suffer.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 01:35 AM
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i agree with his mens rights stand but i disagree with the more conservative politics he has.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 06:57 PM
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i am so sorry to hear about the hard life you had, and so inspired to hear that your life has become much more positive. i think this sub needs stories like these more often to remind everyone what we fight for. if i could give you a huge internet hug right now i would.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 06:47 PM
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because its a growing trend that women will kill their children to punish their partner, then they use the victim card to lower their sentence or be treated for mental illness rather than punished.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 01:15 PM
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its true that this isn't a sub about trans rights, but i think the opinions of someone who is/will be transitioning can shine a light on many things we may miss. i just love anyone who comes here and who has love for the men out there and won't pigeon-hole us. welcome to the sub.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 12:48 PM
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i totally agree, its not the most reliable contraception when its used in a long term relationshipe, so its got fuck all chance during a casual liason.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:46 PM
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i feel for you i really do. i would first say that feeling like you do, you should talk to a mnedical professional. suicide will not help you or your children. secondly, seek out any local support networks and see if they can offer any help. just remember you are never alone.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:22 PM
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your title is a hell of a stretch, there was no stalking and i hardly consider getting wet an assault.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 04:53 PM
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ii kinda feel bad for her but its not MRA's that have done it. its 4chans /pol/ board. but never let the facts get in the way of victimhood.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 04:42 PM
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big red, during her "patriarchy hurts men" speech
/r/MensRights24/04/13 03:28 PM
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yeah her singing cry me a river when mens suicide was mentioned is a fine example of how caring feminists can be about the mens issues, the men involved and shows just how hard we should be expecting them to "work on our behalf"
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:40 PM
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i have to say in the context of the whole series of adverts its not bad. they all seem based around irn bru making you feel better when stressful moments happen. another one is a patriotic scots dad having her daughter bring home an english boyfriend.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:12 PM
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i see no problem in this, he was an ass, she give him a metaphorical bitch slap... all is right with the world. though i must point out i feel a little bad for genuine girl gamers who put up with crap because of the actions of "grrrlll gmrs" because they are attention whores doing it to prove they are just like the boys.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 04:08 PM
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i think richard castle from castle is also a good dad role model. he has his moments of childishness but he always is shown to be loving and involved in his daughters life.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 11:24 AM
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i wasn't making it an age issue, more a life lessons issue. i always thought in black and white but the more life i live the more i can see all the subtle shades of grey.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 11:03 PM
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please everyone, remember what your politics when you were her age. when your young you only have what you read and what your told, its only as you get older and experiance life that you build the groundwork of a whole personality and outlook.0 i was a much bigger and more deluded fool at that age.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 03:58 PM
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this again. third post in as many days. re running the arguement won't change it.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 10:47 AM
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i love the quotes you have there. if feminism is truely about equality then it wouldn't matter what people called themselves. it seems that its not that 80% wanting equality is not good enough for them, those people need to call themselves what the feminists want to call them.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 09:23 AM
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when animals mate they select partners with desirable attributes. those attributes are passed down and eventually become the norm for a spieces. was that so hard?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:56 PM
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