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Blue Pill Examplesh1v/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 08:06 AM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 10:17 AM
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Question For Bluepillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 06:40 AM
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Question For Bluepillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 05:26 AM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 09:19 AM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:58 AM
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Purple Discussionsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 05:54 PM
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Discussionsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:26 PM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 08:43 AM
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Question for BluePillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:18 AM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 11:18 AM
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Discussionsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:04 AM
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Question for BluePillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 06:08 PM
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CMVsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:41 AM
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Discussionsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:13 AM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:59 PM
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Question for BluePillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:51 PM
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Question For Bluepillsh1v/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 10:54 PM
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sh1v/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:46 PM
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how long do you think you will remain on reddit posting about how rape is justified and that you maybe already do it? is this your swan song? Brah, if you could get me banned, i'd already be banned, and I'd have to go through the 2 minute hassle of adjusting my vpn and creating a new account. But you can continue beating off to the idea in this thread all you like. Haha. the question is would you support it? Without context, id have to say no. I know of no other species than humans where females…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:47 PM
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The mere fact that you consider a woman who enjoys sex to be less worthy of respect than a rapist makes this whole post laughable. Where did i say that? I have plenty of appreciation for the capacity of women to enjoy sex. Even sex they didnt consent to. As Prabhupada, Gaudiya Vaishnava spiritual teacher puts it "Outwardly they show some displeasure, but inwardly they do not."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:32 PM
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Well, i guess its cool that you dont see India as having a "rape problem" or anything to that nature. I guess we can all just keep on doing what we're doing :) Śubha divasa to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:29 PM
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so, then you would engage in this behavior yourself? Who says i dont already brah? But this OP is about India. how do you feel about corrective rape of men? Any specific examples you'd like to point out? Its an interesting theoretical but i know of no cases of women correctively raping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:25 PM
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Cool, a live one! Few questions for you: 1) Do you use public transport? How about at night? 2) How do you feel about this series of quotes: http://imgur.com/gallery/PKf7l
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:16 PM
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Close enough brah. Thanks for the heads up, I needed something to do in the 15 minutes before responses start rolling in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:53 PM
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My nigga!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 01:00 PM
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So how was their sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 12:43 PM
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I dunno brah. I like a good troll account as much as the next guy, but whatever you're doing is just too esoteric for me to appreciate. Good luck with your endeavors though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:10 AM
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Sexual strategy is amoral, sure. But where your argument fails, is that it's pretty clear that not everything redpillschool says is synonymous with sexual strategy, or TRP itself. People are allowed to have and voice opinions external to, and even contrary to, movements with which they are associated. Talk to any TRP member long enough and you'll find some area of disagreement with TRP which, while meaningful, isn't enough to make them outright reject TRP. Take the good with the bad, and all tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:01 AM
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So, what do you all think? Some kind of weird meta trolling, or a transparent attempt at generating hype for a shitty TBP spin off sub? Maybe the latter masquerading as the former? How clever does the author currently feel, and how misguided is he/she on that point? Does anyone know? More to the point, does anyone care?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 07:45 AM
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Wheres the fun in that....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 08:36 AM
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How many of the studies surveyed used third party ratings vs self reported? What were the demographics of these third parties? How many of the speed dating studies checked attractiveness ratings by participants vs third party assessments, and how many of the studies involving marriage? One problem with these larger meta studies is how many different variables are at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 08:24 PM
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Halo effect. The hamster wants resources, locates a suitable provider and then hamsts that said provider is a looker. No woman is consciously thinking to herself "Today, I'm going to go out and find a provider who I'm not attracted to in order to use him for his resources" even though that's what's happening under the surface. This is the problem with drawing sweeping conclusions from self-reported data.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 07:11 PM
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Agreed. i am just so tired of women reinterpreting everything I do as an invitation to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:17 PM
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Doesnt matter. Ex-terminate. Ex-terminate. Ex-terminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 02:34 AM
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you misspelled interested
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:00 AM
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My god. Those utterly hideous mongoloids. Sometimes I think the age of sail was a mistake. We should've come ready to do what we did to the Neanderthals and other subhuman species, or not at all. Our ancestors are turning in their graves knowing that we tolerate the existence of these blasphemies against nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:58 PM
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If Hitler's my role model, then I'd need to get a 10000000:1 K:D ratio first. :O)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:45 PM
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You need to stop jerking off other blue pillers. Blue pillers are the ones drawing comparisons between RP and the 1950s most RPers are oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:19 PM
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Lol funny thread dude. I can just picture you cackling to yourself and saying "Checkmate terpers!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:12 PM
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Lmao harsh truth. First and hardest step would be to repress your revulsion and contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:09 AM
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Well i wanted to make it a little more palatable for BPers. But youre right, they dont even really have much cunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 11:11 PM
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Spock was my dog. 100% rational ascetic MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:49 PM
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Hey OfSpock havent seen you around for a while. Its ironic that you show up on the day Leonard Nimoy dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:41 PM
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I didnt see your edit last time, but it clarifies for me. Don't get me wrong brah, I'm not complaining about women wanting a go-getter. Not at all. I just think it's funny how open they are about it, yet also pretend to want "independence", equality etc. It's like if I was to say "people need to stop judging each other based on looks, by the way I only date young chicks with .5 waist to hip ratio and all other women disgust me."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:39 PM
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I'm increasingly of the opinion that it should. Temple prostitutes once fulfilled this function. Women pretend to be all high minded, generous, egalitarian etc. But continue giving their greatest asset, pussy, to only a select few entitled alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:36 PM
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Hey, I appreciate your honesty. As a rabid slut shamer, this actually clicks for me pretty well. I think not enough people (red or blue) are willing to admit with their preferences or reactions to others are less than 100% rational. It's not a /u/sh1v post if he doesn't insult women in some capacity. Maybe I need to start injecting some positivity here. My next post will be all about the docile, properly submissive fuck toy women in my life and what you all need to learn from them. Stay tuned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:25 PM
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Haha seems like you have some issues with men. You're generalizing as hard as I am. Maybe there needs to be a TRP for misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:23 PM
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I don't think I would be as interesting without the passions in my life. This may be, but speaking for myself, I'm not looking for interesting. I want good food, a good clean house, and pussy on demand. Whatever word you want to use, interesting, driven, passionate, etc, I dont think dudes give a shit as much as women. We want the basics and essentials. We're not stressing over what your dreams are or where you'll be in 5 years (as long as its still on my dick with reasonable frequency). Also, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:12 PM
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At least I'm consistent brah. :O)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:07 PM
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Nah, I disagree. I think the louder obnoxious incels are how you say, but the silent majority of them are frustrated "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:05 PM
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Why does it have to be someones fault brah? It doesn't matter who started what. What matters is that we unleash the hate, lust and anger hidden away in the hearts of these omegas so they can transform into proper god fearing, ripped misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:01 PM
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but on the whole I think the notion that men don't want women who have big dreams at all is incorrect, because someone without those things tends to be an unhappy, existentially empty mess, and thus a drag to be around. Sure. Maybe. Or maybe they're traditionally feminine, supportive of their men and wonderful to be around. Really it depends. Thanks for your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:51 PM
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So do you think that war in itself is a good thing? Don't you think that we should strive for a society that reduces conflicts in order to reduce violence and therefor death? Uh, no. If anything, more death is needed. You know how survival of the fittest works correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:49 PM
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Brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:36 PM
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Hatred is how the human race subdues threats and weeds out inferiors. Compassion has its own special utility, by allowing bands of humans to work together and form cohesive communities capable of killing other large bands of humans. But without the hate/anger driven crucible of vicious conflict, selection is retarded, and the race, society, whatever, suffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:35 PM
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Thing about most omegas, most of them get the way they are because they learn to repress certain parts of themselves - their aggression, their need to conquer and dominate, their hatred (the healthiest human urge there is) and competitiveness, their arrogance and contempt for others, etc, etc. However, having stuffed all that down for years results in this highly useful stockpile of barely suppressed nerd rage. TRP essentially games them, taps into that rage and directs it into useful activity v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:55 PM
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I think you should write a lengthy post to help those of us at PPD better understand the plight of the omega. Since the MGTOW movement started to go out of fashion I havent heard much from that quarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:37 PM
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A philosophical conundrum for the ages, comrade. At times like these, I like to fall back upon the wisdom of the ancients. From the Hindu text the Brhadārankyaka Upanishad, and I quote: Surely, a woman who has changed her clothes at the end of her menstrual period is the most auspicious of women. When she has changed her clothes at the end of her menstrual period, therefore, one should approach that splendid woman and invite her to have sex. Should she refuse to consent, he should bribe her. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:28 PM
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I prefer to think of it as gaming the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:54 AM
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In other words, you're basically saying that Susan Brownmiller's Against Our Will is correct and that rape is primarily an act of political terrorism designed to control and subjugate women and "put them in their place" collectively. I'd hazard that her analysis is partly correct. Where it likely falls flat is the assumption that the longstanding Patriarchal tradition of sporadic and publicized rape to encourage female docility is somehow... wrong. Every act of political terror is justified in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:35 AM
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Nice to see a fellow gentleman scholar providing instruction on this topic. I believe the all-too-predictable overblown emotional reactions to merely pointing out the facts on the female desire for rape/ravishment, is an attempt to cover the opposition's lack of cogent counterarguments. The 50 shades phenomenon is a perfect example, it turns women on precisely because it blurs the line of consent. There's a reason bondage and submission (emphasis on the submission) is the prevailing "kink" among…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:31 AM
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Actually, I for one am. The submissiveness and compliance of women generally correlates with the prevalence of rape within a given society. In other words, more rape, more well behaved women who know their role. It isn't strictly necessary to rape all women, but just enough so that the fear of rape and acknowledgement of their (women's) inherent frailty and need for male protection becomes pervasive. I try to have rational debates on the subject, but it is always perceived as trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:11 AM
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Seems to me both sexes have a strategy. Why is everyone bitching? Why do you care? Honest question. Complaining about other people complaining is hypocritical and a waste of time, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:55 PM
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Yeah, you're probably onto something there. If I was just a cold emotionless logic bot i wouldnt want to fuck chicks in the first place. I'd be all bout dat 10101010101010101. Though, im not sure emotion is the right term for my instinctive, biologically hardwired need to ransack and inseminate girlflesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:22 PM
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To each his own. He has his ways of dealing with LMR, as do I. If mine make me a rapist, then so be it. I'm a rapist :O)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:38 AM
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How many rapes are actually reported, let alone result in convictions? Pretty low from all the feminist whining I overhear. Grand scheme? I'm liking my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:36 AM
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The thought of giving love or commitment to a woman who's had 100 dicks in her is just physically revolting to me at an instinctive level. It'd be like eating garbage or leftovers that a thousand other dudes put their fingers in. If that's insecurity, so be it. It's funny, because I see the opposite effect as well. The most vehement and numerous TRP critics are sluts and betas. They get defensive and insecure because of what TRP implies about them so they lash out or try to shame the shamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:00 AM
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I have an idea on this. When I woman puts up "LMR," why not just believe her no? Because I'd rather fuck her. Plain and simple. Does it mean a 5-10% chance of sorta-accidentally being a rapist? Maybe, but then everything in life has risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:37 AM
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Yeah they do. It's just the nature of the game though. Women babble about equality and shit like that, but when the rubber hits the road and the dick hits the pussy, they're as submissive as god made them. Never forget!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:05 PM
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Brutal post brah. I didn't want to be quite so blunt as this in my OP, but yeah I think this is what's going on. Women don't want to be raped or anything... but they do want some element of rape-like, forcedy...ness. They don't want some tepid beta who's more nervous than they are stopping to ask for consent every 30 seconds. They want to be TAKEN by a man they want to be taken by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:01 PM
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You got me brah!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:58 PM
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Dont worry, i make the girls feel better about it too. Mostly cause theyre too busy orgasming to think of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:58 PM
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You're ok with me partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:56 PM
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Ha, a good analogy: it's Schrodinger's desire. She put's herself in an indeterminate state of both wanting and not wanting, and finally, when she observes her emotions after the fact, that superposition collapses into either having wanted it, or not wanted it. Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:55 PM
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if I'm not going to get an orgasm out of it then there's no reason to waste my time on her. Admirable. This is my philosophy on women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:52 PM
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The red pill feminist weighs in. I may not agree with what you say but at least you always say something interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:50 PM
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In my next post I'll talk about what happened when I randomly fucked among a sample of 500 female participants. Stay tuned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:46 PM
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Well there was a supreme gentleman here who told us that LMR is the biggest proof that PUA techniques don't work. Dude link please, I could use a solid laugh session.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:23 PM
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Maybe they do. I've had girls give me a genuine sounding no and backed off. I think it all depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:27 PM
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I'm open to suggestions brah. What would you do if a girls hamster suddenly kicked in and you had to deal with a false rape allegation? Tell the judge it was patriarchy or rape culture what made you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:08 AM
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If smashing through some cunt's LMR is a crime, then strike me down. I will take the stand in my own defense and proudly recite from TRP's sidebar as the gavel pounds. "Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our agency in determining our future." -Edward Snowden
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:46 AM
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I'll upvote anything with a glengarry glen Ross quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:52 AM
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Huh. Weird, that. I guess that's just a risk I'll have to take!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:47 AM
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Sadly, women like this are all too real. They're called post wall hags. It's basically what happens when a woman wastes her youth riding the cock carousel and doesn't get off (hyuk) until the last minute, when the betas moping on the sidelines have all either reddened the fuck up or wifed up some other fucked out whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:26 AM
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Hear me out for a second here. There's basically two ways to look at this. The optimistic version is "He's grown and matured, discovered what he really wants and is taking steps to make sure he gets that -- and good for him. It has nothing to do with HER in particular." The pessimistic version is "It has everything to do with her. If he saw her as commitment material, he'd commit. The fact that he doesn't means he values her less than the other chicks he committed to in the past." Like, maybe he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:11 AM
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Solid advice. Women are these incredibly shallow, superficial creatures so all I need to do is objectify myself and they'll finally treat me like a human being. By the way, do you think we should just start injecting pregnant women with hormones? That way everyone can be born with god tier digit ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:55 AM
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And you're so concerned about the welfare of "the queers and coloreds" that you're spearheading more effective activism, I take it? Indeed. I'm constantly spearheading activism to get the queers and coloreds off of welfare. How else should they learn personal responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:47 AM
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Insightful post brah. Do you think slicing off a slut's ring finger might make her less slutty/more attractive? Maybe the ancients were aware of the digit ratio thing, and put rings on the 4d to constrain its sluttifying influence, hence the 'ring finger.' Biotruths son.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:39 AM
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Pretty even. Actually i had a moment of existential terror after reading about the whole digit ratio thing and realizing how many of the people in my life have these huge, raging slut lvl digit ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:38 AM
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I dont know if you wanted to make painfully obvious the connection between this beta-cum-commitment-phobe and fucked out carousel retirees who'll only starfish for their beta bux after a 9 month screening process, but you certainly achieved it. I believe a woman who perceives herself being put in the fuck buddy zone by a man who was formerly known to be loose with his time/commitment, has a right to be upset. Especially if she perceives it as being for similar reasons as the guy put in the no-se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:23 AM
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Wow. Insightful. In fact, too insightful. Once a post crosses a certain threshold of being actually thought provoking, the other side tends to completely ignore it in favor of bait posts and other low hanging fruit. Nevertheless, props.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:02 AM
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We need to just start rewiring women's brains. Or just keep ruthlessly manipulating them. I mean why bother engaging with the person as if they're some rational entity as BPers advocate, when the hormones are actually the ones in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:59 AM
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They don't want to be seen as "like that" by the guy they're trying to hook. If men respected sluts and committed to them, none of this would be happening :P Or we could cease committing to women and only engage them on the basis of wild n crazy face fucking ass pounding no strings sex, as the disgruntled betas of the world continue to wonder why their fucked out carousel retirees are now so tame in bed. By all means, continue to punish the beta while rewarding the alpha, TRP benefits, you benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:56 AM
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Details or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:54 AM
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Exactly why I am an utter douchebag to any and all women I encounter. I want them to hate me as I pound them into an anal orgasm while shoving their face in another bitch's muff. Not put me in the love/romance zone where the most i get is some tepid grudging vanilla LTR sex. You ladies dont think these things through.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:53 AM
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Funny how most of the female respondents thusfar admit to doing this. But by all means, continue to blame TRP for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:49 AM
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I just want a nice intense normal and satisfying fucking. All of that other shit you described is mostly for the man's ego. Why do you want to fuck her face? Seriously? What's the real reason? You can fuck her pussy and get the same pleasure. You just want the power play of dominating over someone in some demeaning sexual position. Makes you feel "mighty." I guess. Most women actually fantasize about being dominated and having "kinky" sex, ie, being spanked, tied up, being in the submissive role…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:43 AM
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I don't see why either of these is a problem. Maybe the fact that the men are eventually going to think, "Huh. Would you look at that. We're still here in the mines, factories and trenches, doing the brutal unforgiving work of maintaining civilization. Yet, women have somehow deluded themselves into thinking they're all strong and independent and are not giving up the pussy at quite the rate we'd like." And shortly thereafter, reinstate Patriarchy and enforced chattel slavery of all females.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:44 AM
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Lmao Im glad i came to this thread. Between you and strongalfalfa, i havent laughed this hard on PPD in hours!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:40 AM
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Stick around pal! We needed a few saboteurs on our side. I was thinking of a novelty account of my own: BluePillMisogynist. Don't ask me how it's going to work, i havent figured that part out yet.... but its gonna be genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:37 AM
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If so, why bother answering? You've already made up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:52 AM
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Blue pill debating at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:04 AM
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Who's deciding the definition of arsehole here? Nobody goes "wow, what an arsehole, I'm going to reward that with sex". Speak for yourself: http://elitedaily.com/dating/date-a-guy-who-bores-me-to-tears/918320/ Personal sexual preferences do not "encourage" anything. Sleeping with someone I want to is as effective at changing the world around me as sleeping with someone I don't want to. It changes nothing but who I have sex with. This is hilarious. You realize sexual selection and its far ranging…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:48 AM
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No, I completely disagree. Who I choose to have sex with, who you choose to have sex with, that does not affect anyone except the people actually having sex. That's a ridiculous statement. So? By having sex with an asshole you encourage assholery in that specific individual, making the world a shittier place. If you want to back off your initial statement that everything we do that affects others is necessarily moral that's fine, I'll just need to you be a tad more explicit about it, and apply i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:04 AM
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Nothing you do that affects someone else is ever going to be amoral. Who you choose to have sex with "affects others." Have sex with assholes, you encourage assholery and make the world a shittier place. You can't have it both ways - if sexual strategy isn't amoral then neither is sexual selection. "Thine own mouth condemneth thee, and not I: yea, thine own lips testify against thee." Job 15:6 I never asserted any such thing. Your behaviour will absolutely let an individual decide whether or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:26 AM
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Sexual strategy is the study of how to get laid. If the morality of one's behavior can and should have no impact on whether one gets laid, as you assert, then morality is irrelevant to sexual strategy. QED. TRP Confirmed! "All's fair in love and war." - Shakespeare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 04:39 AM
15

Nobody deserves sex from someone who doesn't want to give it to them. People decide if they want to sleep together. There's two people involved, so if one of them for whatever reason isn't into it, the other person doesn't deserve anything. If you can never be deserving of sex, then you can never be undeserving of sex, hence, sexual strategy is amoral. TRP confirmed!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:41 AM
25

A quick Google search didn't reveal that much. Some protections for women that seem a little bit silly, but nothing that specifically oppresses men. That's like saying that gay rights oppress trans people because they weren't specifically mentioned. I assume you believe misogyny does not exist in the West then, since women have equal legal status to men. O wait. You don't believe that, because feminism is full of double standards. If you're looking for solid materials, here's a good start: www.n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 02:53 AM
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I agree -- feminists of today are even worse. Check out Sweden for an example of the kind of misandrist dystopia that today's spoiled, entitled, western middle class white feminists plan to bring about in the rest of the first world. At least the second wave radfems were just raging impotently against their imagined Patriarchal boogeymen - today's SJWs and radfems are gaining real traction in the more emasculated parts of the world. Ironic, because Muslim men are now invading these feminized soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 01:01 AM
-6

Friend of mine once browbeat me into going on a rollercoaster, back when we were 9. I loved it, and now I love rollercoasters. You can't really rape a woman in this situation, because she wants it, she just doesn't know she wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:55 PM
3

Unjustified - because he let her off far too light. A good hard raping would instill some much needed respect for male superiority into this cunt's hamster brain. That or a public caning, followed by a walk of shame. "The relation of male to female is by nature a relation of superior to inferior and ruler to ruled." - Aristotle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:37 PM
0

Gandhi would break his vows of nonviolence to slap some sense into you blue pillers, were he alive. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jan/27/mohandas-gandhi-women-india
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 03:06 AM
0

Amen, my brother. The anger phase would be strong with Jesus. Not peace, but a sword would he bring for the world's hambeasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:19 AM
1

The Church never should've stopped executing intellectuals, to be honest. Just roll back the entire Enlightenment and Scientific Revolution. They've done more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:18 AM
-2

Also known as Marriage 1.0, or the Engine of Civilization. We could debate to what extent the collapse of marriage is women's fault, and to what extent it's men's fault for letting women fuck everything up. But I think it more productive to look to the future and ask: what would Jesus do in a world where the female imperative reigns supreme and sluttery is the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:01 AM
-3

I'd post there, but I've little interest in the "search for the historical Jesus" and similar nonsense. The word of God as writ down in the Bible is history enough for me, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:21 AM
-2

Even Christ has his limit, my child, and Western women would be enough to drive him right over it. The Lord didn't send his one begotten son to die on the cross so college sluts could rack up double digit cock counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:18 AM
-6

So when a wife starts actively denying her husband sex, she is literally breaking the marriage contract. Amen, brother. I would advocate death by stoning for all such faithless, godless creatures -- but as Jesus said, let him who hath never failed a shit test cast the first stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:03 AM
-1

Merely enjoying the decline is not an option for the Son of the Highest, my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:58 AM
-3

The Prophet was so red that, in his lands to this day, any fool who speaks as you just did is swiftly beheaded. Woe to you blue pillers, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:45 AM
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If by that you mean the word of God, then yes, my son. Thousands upon thousands of years of accumulated human wisdom and moral thought, as well as the power of Christ himself, compel you to TRP. What does the blue pill have to commend itself? Egalitarianism and universalism, ie, the work of a few depraved French deviants -- and the unseen yet ever present hand of Satan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:36 AM
-1

Muhammad was definitely red as fuck, as were most of history's great leaders, thinkers and philosophers. However, every time a slut jumps on the carousel, Jesus sheds a tear. He would have no choice but to proselytize for TRP were he walking the earth today. The Son of Man would be the Son of the Manosphere in 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:30 AM
1

Actually I can't repost because the site won't let me. For the next few minutes at least. No worries though. God is good all the time, and all the time God is good. A quick prayer session ought to clear this right up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:35 PM
1

The gods have spoken! I will repost with all haste.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:32 PM
1

O ye of little faith! There is yet time for mankind to get its collective shit together and forge a harem on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:31 PM
1

Not everyone else, my son. Just the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:29 PM
1

Forsooth, my child. I don't even wanna get started on what Confucius, Buddha, Allah, and the gang had to say about women and their proper place. Most of history's religious and philosophical greats are squarely in the red camp. That's not even up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:23 PM
5

The side of good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:37 PM
7

What do women have to do with manhood? Without women to impregnate, no more men. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 02:55 PM
2

Agreed. You only bother to type in teen when you want to explicitly filter out the old chicks. You already get 95% younger girls without even having to type in teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:54 PM
-2

I literally can't believe the entitlement of some women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:53 PM
-1

Projection - you can't accept the fact that older women are the reheated leftovers of the porn world. Teen isn't even a search term these days, it's an annoyance filter. If you search for bukkake, it's implied you're searching for teen bukkake, and so on for every kind of porn imaginable. People only explicitly write teen when they want the percentage of teen sex videos to go from 95% to 100%. Even then, it still tops every other search term. Others have pointed this out here, I'm hardly the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:52 PM
2

You sound quite jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:20 PM
1

Lolz as if the organ the liquid came out of matters more than orgasmic state of the woman in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:20 PM
1

Not to mention our lust for small tits. Wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:47 PM
1

I'll change that last come to cum. That should liven it up a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:34 PM
2

Sounds like your grandma knows whats up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:41 PM
3

I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:28 AM
-1

Yeah, sure. And the assholes who slay different pussy each month are "bad at relationships."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:23 AM
0

It's partly a manufactured demand (gotta do something to squeeze the last few drops of money out of aging talent) and partly the recognition that when you watch MILF porn, you're going to be getting some sick, ludicrous, delightfully depraved, no holds barred shit. A lot of younger tramps won't even do anal, will only masturbate on cam, only take cocks of middling (by porn standards) size, and so on. I even saw some bullshit the other day where the girl insisted on a condom. I'm not talking stag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:19 AM
3

My uncle doesn't want to fuck me because he hugs me but shakes my brother's hand. I wouldn't be 100% sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:06 AM
1

The last thing a woman wants is to be side-hugged by some timid, meek, supplicating beta who's so worried about being "creepy" or "rapey" that he barely makes contact. What you all really want, is to be grabbed and mauled in a way that leaves your panties soaking afterward, and tells you you're a worthless piece of cunt flesh to be used and discarded as I please. That's the kind of hug I give.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:05 AM
-1

Does anyone think that there is a very subtle sexual element to greeting people with hugs? Less subtle than unsubtle, at least when I and a hot chick are involved. I like to really get in there make that her-boob vs my-chest contact, while my hands go right for that ambiguous lower back to the top of the ass zone. I let a hug linger extra long too so the gal knows what's up. Women complain about shit like this, but deep down they love the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:04 AM
12

Oh, and white men tend to be the wealthiest because we live in a society set up to benefit white males. Maybe that's because white males invented society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:20 AM
4

Dont insult the DE by insinuating the average RPer is on its level. Dark enlightenment is some next-level shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:14 AM
7

Whether it's with a wife or a girl you just met, TRP seems to view everything as a petty competition. Each and every interaction appears to be an endless power struggle or a myriad of shit tests. With TRP, everything is about game-playing and one-upmanship and 'amused mastery'. Nothing is casual or 'relaxed', and if it is, it's really only feigned Common misperception. TRP just teaches you to handle the petty competitions when they arise. Smashing those allows the relationship to progress and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:03 AM
1

Haha you care about downvotes? Have some of mine, you can thank the members of TBP for giving me so many to distribute. That was in jest, in case the mods are watching. I wouldnt actually downvote anyone as being a victim of downvoting has taught me to be sensitive to the plight of those around me :O)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:47 AM
0

No hypocrisy there. I'm a white porcelain teapot. Here is my handle, here is my spout.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:43 PM
5

Liberal democracy + multiculturalism + globalism = formula for national and ethnic suicide. Its basically one gigantic machine that very wealthy elites use to siphon the capital out of a country while systematically destroying every institution that could possibly resist them. If a union or social movement develops seeking to utilize the country's resources for its own people, you simply import destitute foreigners to do their jobs, or export those jobs. Or brand them racists and "nazis" and let…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:07 PM
1

Do you consider her to be an important millennial voice? Contradiction in terms IMO. Millennials have contributed nothing of value to culture, politics, science, art, etc etc. They seem to exist purely to whine and bitch about their lot in life and mooch off their elders. Damn kids these days. That goes double for millennial "women" (If they are even worthy of that title) who offer nothing but an overpriced and overused pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:56 PM
0

Well, the typical means of stopping an invasion is to arm thyselves and wage battle for country and king. Perhaps the stalwart natives of PPD should rise up in bloody revolt against this foreign occupation and exile Redpill men from the sub forever, as god clearly intended
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:52 PM
0

Its actually a legit philosophical question. How come sex isnt subject to the same analysis of privilege and power that feminists apply to every other area of life? Is it because they realize women are in an inherently privileged position being the gatekeepers of sex, and hence, want to avoid the conversation lest they be forced to apply their own standards evenly and start championing the cause of incels and other underprivileged undesirables? Is it because women want to be able to sink their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:57 AM
-2

If you can't fuck your woman when and how you want, marriage itself has no purpose. It's a contract specifically designed to grant you exclusive rights and privileges to a womans pussy and all products thereof. In exchange, you swear a manly oath to protect and provide. Nowadays, men are still expected to protect and provide - if you don't, your wife can simply go to a lawyer and get a writ mandating that you do so. Yet, where is the legal mechanism by which a man can force his unruly woman to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:42 AM
15

5, 8, 9, 10, 14, 18, 19 - all posts where OP is assuming the victim role, so can automatically be included. Now here's some choice quotes from the ones that weren't in your face, overt bludgeoning you with their victimhood: 1: BDSM is all about consent, and all consent is necessarily INFORMED consent. So what the fuck does it say when a "dominant" specifically draws his "submissive" from outside the community and culture in which D/s is understood? He doesn't care if she's informed so he doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:23 AM
10

'Responsibility' is right there in the second sentence. The biggest reoccurring theme in criticisms for TRP I see is that it is just men projecting all of their problems onto women. That it is a form of abdicating responsibility. Then the rest of the post shows how TRP does the opposite by advocating that men take responsibility for themselves. Again, I believe you missed the OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:44 PM
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Yeah I mean, I get it. You're blue pill. You automatically think the most important part of a discussion is the moral angle. Whereas red pillers are focused on practicality and action. This whole disconnect has been rehashed a million times in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:21 PM
5

More fools they. The entire nazi ideology and political system is the most sane thing to emerge from the west in the last 100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:30 PM
14

You missed op's point. You're talking about whose fault the problem is from a moral perspective, his argument is about who bears the burden of having to act. A typical feminist argument: other people perpetuate patriarchy and misogyny, therefore those people bear the responsibility to change their actions. A typical red pill argument: you are failing to understand how sex and relationships actually work, therefore you bear the responsibility of changing your actions. Feel free to continue not ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:20 PM
4

Great post. This is why I take it upon myself to create unsafe spaces for women everywhere I go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:23 PM
-1

Yeah. I didn't mean you were saying it was safe to start getting sloppy. Just that a careless reader might pick up that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:51 PM
3

Please tell me you're a feminist. I had to search all the way to the bottom of the thread for a post that remotely looks like a feminist aware of the fact that whites who build things shouldn't automatically have to apologize for the fact that they built them and not coloreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:13 PM
11

Just a friendly reminder to all RP men watching not to fall into the trap of reading stuff like this, thinking you won't be doxxed and letting yourself slip up. Doesn't matter what the mods say. They don't have their users on a leash and anyone can create a throwaway and expose you wherever and however they please. DTA, gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 11:24 AM
0

I'll think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:05 PM
7

If we crave the same dynamics in the sexual and emotional components of our relationships, they why do men and women select different kinds of partners for sex versus dating. Why are we willing to have sex with some people but not marry them? Your support for the alpha bux beta bux theory of female socio-sexual dynamics has been duly noted. That said, I believe your argument is overly exacting. People's emotional and sexual desires needn't coincide perfectly for there to be a connection between …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:38 PM
6

I think on some level you're probably aware that these arguments are weak. Most people own homes and cars. Actually owning the things you use on a daily basis and repairing them is not some outdated, dying concept. If you want to piss away your time in a rental unit that's fine, but you already know you COULD be building value and equity in a house that you renovate and put some sweat into. It would be a lot more efficient than some landlord sucking the life's blood out of you. Don't take my wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:23 PM
11

I can and do. Why shouldn't I? Feminists are always saying how sex is completely different from non sex. Yet there's never solid reasoning as to why. It's sheer convenience IMO. They love being dominated in bed because being submissive is what their hind brain craves, but feminism and leftists tell them submission is wrong, which causes dissonance. In reality peoples sexual behavior, desires and tendencies say a lot about who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:01 PM
4

Yeah, you confuse leadership with micromanagement. A man can be the leader of a household without making every decision and dealing with all the minutiae. A lion doesn't do shit around the lions den, the females do all the work even hunting and shit, yet he is still the boss. Edit: furthermore, there is plenty of manly shit to do around the house. Go fix something, work on the car, do some home improvement. Don't just abandon your castle to the ravages of femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:05 PM
26

I'm glad you all acknowledge your secret desire to be dominated by an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:02 PM
2

You'd be surprised how much identifying features a body shot can have in it. ALso you'd best believe our haters would be going over each pic with a fine toothed comb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:34 AM
1

I've seen some cute dolphins in my time, and really, who's to say they can't consent? They're about as smart as human females.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 01:57 PM
2

In what way are you "using put one over" Manipulate. Lie to. Put up a front. Guide them to the decision you'd like them to make without them knowing your intentions. Have an agenda you aren't up front about. Things like that. Everyone usually has room to do this in a relationship. You may not be able to get away with it forever, but you can definitely get away with it in the short term. It's why there's such a stigma against manipulation. If it wasn't as effective and accessible a strategy as it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:35 AM
-3

I had a good run. No regrets!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:22 AM
16

The blue pill stance: Everything you do is rape unless and until she says it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 11:27 PM
4

I actually find Brazzers has more accurate depictions of how women act, around alphas like moi anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 11:23 PM
7

Maybe among fellow warrior cousins who incidentally fuck each other in the butt, like Achilles and Patroclus. With a woman in the picture? Get used to the idea of life being one constant steady stream of shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:55 PM
11

I was only half serious brah. I dont have a crystal ball and I wont pretend to know everything about your relationship. I do think that you are either too modest, or have an unnecessarily low opinion of yourself. Even if the healthiest of relationships, most people are aware of the fact that if they wanted to, if they really wanted to, they could put one over on their SO. The fact that you don't believe this about yourself, says that either you are on a very tight leash in your relationship, hen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:53 PM
22

Haha man, this post. I would love to sit there and jot down all the ways in which your wife subtly manipulates you throughout the day. I'd probably run out of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 06:33 PM
27

Haha, so accurate. Blue piller: "You want a sexual strategy? Here's an idea. Treat women like people. Also, here's a list of 14361436 things you can't do around women or you're a shitty, misogynist, rapist." AFC: "But how will that help me get laid?" Blue piller: "Well... it won't. But honestly, it's not that hard to get laid dude. Just go to any bar, let guys buy you drinks and let one thing lead to another (works for me teehee)" AFC: "That doesn't work for most guys." Blue piller: "Shut up, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 12:37 PM
2

How accurate was that Kim Jong un documentary The Interview?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 03:24 AM
7

I have a wife and family and it's fulfilling as fuck. It's good to have people to come home to after a hard day. But I often think about how fulfilling it would be to have complete freedom to take risks, move cross country, start up a full time business, and fuck lots of different women. So it's a trade off no matter what path you go down. I do think most men have an instinct to protect and provide for a family. Some of it society grinds into you, and some of it's probably hard wired in our DNA.…
/r/askTRP15/02/15 03:10 AM
5

If the methodology was sound, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 09:05 PM
-4

Haha, the fact that a blue piller would say this of me means I'm thoroughly on the right track. You honor me!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 02:57 PM
1

Damn, seconding this! I could listen to him all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 03:11 AM
7

Dewsend. I want to know how hard it was for him to build a time machine in 1800 in order to get to our era. PetticoatRuled, I want to know if her name has anything to do with cosplaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:50 PM
-1

Lmao. First time Ive heard fire-crotch. You win this round Gridrexx. Butyou havent seen the last of me!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 09:30 PM
2

If more male feminists really groked this, there would be no male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 09:14 PM
-3

So you're saying i got stamina.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 09:12 PM
1

Nooo! How could I mess up the most important detail in the whole story!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 09:07 PM
1

What can I say? If the pussy fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:07 PM
1

Youre right about one thing. The female "friend" is shitty too. I didnt feel the need to comment on that originally. I just took it for granted that most ppl already know how women are incapable of friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:05 PM
0

You can never really trust a woman no matter how good of a chinky little slut she was the night before. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:59 PM
0

Well, i treated it like erotic fiction, at least on the first read. Thanks for your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:58 PM
3

True dat. You have to be hip to female nature. Leaving one's possessions in plain sight of a female is just asking to be wallet-raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:55 PM
-1

It's made up. "Chinky little slut?" Come on now. No one else here says that during sex? No one? Guess it's just me and whoever fucked that OP. If the guy really behaved the way this girl describes then I don't think she should feel too bad for robbing him. I don't have much sympathy for someone who lets an obviously desperate teenager stay in their hotel room and leaves their wallet out with hundreds of dollars in it. Yeah, there's always the self improvement angle. He should've at least used th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:55 PM
4

+1 wis, brah. Fully agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:52 PM
-4

He was acting out a BDSM fantasy on her or something. Well said. She should've been paying him, if anything. He gave her the full service 50 shades package while she just lay there and starfished, from the sounds of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:52 PM
5

I already knew blue pillers have trouble empathizing with men, but wow. Pretty extreme victim blaming there. Thanks for your comments though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:33 PM
5

For real. Most people in the comments are just glossing over her behavior or even trying to justify it, as if the dude was "asking for it", or like she was somehow entitled to his money just because she let him fuck her senseless while slapping the shit out of her and choking her. Are there things he could've done differently? Sure, but the thing is, no one ASKS to be stolen from. I honestly fear we may be living in a 'theft culture'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:18 PM
3

PPD makes me proud to be a straight, white man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:36 PM
-9

Aw, shucks. I'd have to chalk it up to good parenting + some luck (being born white, and male). Plus hard work and dedication on my part to become as great as I presently am.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:35 PM
-9

Are you kidding? This has been my opus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:29 AM
-68

Teaching her the pleasures of the cock would actually be better than she deserves. But leave it a blue piller to fail to grasp the concept of gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:41 PM
-91

Good one brah! Except... At the end of the day, heterosexuality is still the norm, homosexuality still an aberrant mental disease, and women still more sexually fluid than men. Nice attempt at equivalency though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:07 PM
-39

Lmao go look up lesbian bed death, dykes just can't please each other without a cock involved, hell any cock would be an improvement. Sorry if you're bothered by the fact that lesbos can't hold a candle to straight, male dominated, cock-on-pussy fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:36 PM
-45

Hey can I make up some bullshit pop psychology about how your want to rape everyone is some kind of deeper pathology to cover up the overall lack of control and direction you feel in your life or some other bullshit? Be my guest. But your heart doesn't really seem to be in it. this is top kek coming from a TRPer Say what you will, i haven't made a career out of critiquing the relationships of a group of people who aren't even the same sexual orientation as me. Nor am I trying to hijack dykes/fag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:17 PM
51

Cool post. One example I notice is women consistently want to use morality to constrain male sexuality, yet get indignant whenever anyone tries to constrain their sexuality. This is because the lack the ability to conceive of/care about the fact that there is this other group of people whose lives and experiences different from their own. PUA? Rapey. Dread game? "Shitty." Porn? Exploitative. Actually putting effort into getting sex? Manipulation, and also entitlement. Come on to a girl? You're p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:03 PM
-6

My mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:48 PM
-24

GAH! MY EYES!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:45 PM
-123

What do you think of feminist Masha Gessen? Give me five minutes with the slut and she'd be begging for the cock, lesbian or no. Female sexuality is fluid -- there's really no such thing as 100% gay women, just women who haven't been properly fucked yet. I think a lot of feminists are like this chick, babbling on about MF relationships in this lengthy, pedantic, over analyzing fashion which makes all too clear their envy and repressed fascination with the topic -- that is, the notion of being do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:53 PM
10

We do this in front of each other and it's actually pretty fun to flirt/string along other people when both of us know who is going back to whom that night. Lolz, but yet when TRP talks about women who string along and fuck with men just for the sheer sociopathic joy of manipulating us, blue pillers line up to gaslight about how that doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:10 AM
-3

Straight up powering through her lmr. Call me what you will, some hardcore caveman game gets girls wet as fuck. You want to be aiming for just barely above rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:40 AM
2

It angers feminists and manginas more, causing them to give us free advertising at every opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:58 PM
3

The reason is that sometimes she can't say no. People are different. People are DIFFERENT. Some women feel that all PiV sex is rape. Therefore, PiV sex should be banned. Or an alternate theory: maybe the definition of rape should remain the same rather than expanding whenever and however white knights feel like it should. My view is that the moment you say or do something that would commonly be perceived as threatening aside from any sexual context Good luck coming up with a universally accepted…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:47 PM
4

This whole false positive theory could be self-referencing; you see other people drawing conclusions based on their own theories and assume they are false positives, thus validating your own theory in and endlessly self reinforcing unfalsifiable loop of assumption making.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:23 PM
-1

The same thing happens to any debate given enough time. Reps vs dems. Old crotchety buggers vs young punks. Feminists vs MRAs. Playstation vs Xbox. Eventually the debate is as explored as its ever going to get. Every argument with another person either ends in the victory of one side over the other, or much more commonly, an intractable stalemate formed by differing moral axioms / unprovable assumptions. Even arguments over scientific validity usually end in conjecture beyond current science's c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:15 PM
0

I mean, that's kind of true, but in a way you're percieving it as your own penis. It's not gay to watch your own penis fuck a chick, and if you're beating off to porn, you're not thinking "oh man what a nicely shaped penis that gentleman has" you're thinking "yeah, fuck that filthy whore, give it to her good". The cock is only important insofar as it debases the female. One can appreciate it in that context, and even admire it a little aesthetically, but the latter is not the primary reason for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:54 AM
0

So your argument is basically... TRP is made up of stupid people because 1) TRP is not sufficiently prosocial in your view 2 The Darwin awards exist 3) Males exhibit greater intellectual variance than women. With like... no real argument as to how those all those ideas are connected. Cool. Pretty low effort post, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:34 AM
2

Pure poetry, comrade!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:48 PM
5

Although your outline of how female infidelity usually goes down is accurate. I just don't get why people keep pretending cheating is a female thing. Setting aside the whole 'which gender is the worst' debate... How would you say men and women should act to avoid this all-too-common downward spiral into woe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:40 PM
3

That was actually me being cheerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 01:15 PM
-1

You gotta write a field report brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:01 AM
0

Ive been thinking about branching into Drug Dealer Game. Why bother trying to get a woman addicted to your personality or whatever, when you can just cut out the middle man and inject her with some heroin. I see a lot of potential here. Drugs make women docile, compliant and well behaved, to an extent. Problem is you'd eventually have to discard them when they get out of control and start losing their attractiveness. Plus an addict will fuck ANYONE for her next dose not just you. But hell, I gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 10:25 AM
1

I actually agree with the title of the OP, though I'm more divided on the study. The male version of alpha fux beta bux is pumping and dumping sluts while only committing to good girls. The way these two strategies operate is eerily similar, both rely on ambiguity and not revealing what it is that you're actually doing, and both involve the separation of sex vs commitment, seeking different partners for different purposes. Also, both strats generate much QQ and saltiness among members of the opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 10:00 AM
6

Do you think the trend of males leaving academia and foregoing higher education will continue in the US? Its already happening in Japan and parts of Europe. I certainly hope so. Fuck academia. Fuck liberal intellectuals ready to fail you for disagreeing with them. Fuck the SJWs getting their way on every single issue. Fuck everyone's loud opinion on how oppressive everyone else is. Fuck men being demonized and being presumed rapists until proven innocent. Fuck professors assigning their own book…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:34 AM
1

I like to cum in peoples shampoo bottles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:10 AM
0

Seeing someone else of the same genders genitals is taboo and most people are raised to avoid it. Therefore looking at a dudes penis is by definition gay in most mens minds, unless they're watching it fuck a pussy for the vicarious thrill. I mean, your question only makes sense if you ignore the entirety of human culture / norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 05:41 AM
7

Plenty of MRAs are fathers and make the same points he's making. The fact that a man is hard wired to protect and provide for his familial unit doesn't change the fact that cold hard calculating logic screams against the notion of submitting to state enforced slavery at the whims of some woman who can divorce rape you when and how she pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 05:26 AM
4

Your made up world sounds very interesting. Indeed. Some guy at the London school of economics and political science even wrote a fanfic about it. http://www.uky.edu/AS/PoliSci/Peffley/pdf/Kanazawa%2009%20JOP_Evolutionary%20Psychological%20Foundations%20of%20Civil%20Wars.pdf Lol, I don't empathize with someone who can call himself an "incel" and still take himself seriously. Good. Let the rage and killing sprees continue. I think any attempt at bringing empathy into this cycle of violence, death…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:55 AM
6

Bad comparison, I agree. Starvation is a much lesser concern than lack of sex, in these cases. Give the average incel the choice between rich inceldom and being destitute but having plenty of pussy, and he'll take the pussy every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:21 PM
10

Incels aren't a societal problem and as such, society is not responsible for accommodating them. Yes they are. Whenever incels exist, war parties of angry young men form and you get things like ISIS, as well as a few isolated Eliot Rogers here and there. Fortunately we brave and stalwart heroes of TRP are helping to convert the frustrated rage of the incel into discipline and hard work, one beta at a time. What have you done for lesser men lately? Other than blame the patriarchy for everything a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:19 PM
4

Presumably somewhere beyond that huge field of crickets chirping.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:09 PM
-3

Anytime babe. Anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 07:38 PM
0

^ This is literally how blue pillars actually think
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:41 PM
2

Why be guilty? A whores a whore. Being slapped around and fucked like a worthless hole is what they're there for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 09:05 PM
-1

I saw that transplant...and I felt sick. I know right? They literally took a fatbody's shit and shoved it up another woman's ass... Science has gone too far with this whole playing god business Personally i would be happier if women died rather than taking a shit transplant that turns them yet another disgusting land whale. World has enough of those already thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:37 PM
4

You do realize that countless mental health professionals all agree that public shame does nothing to actually help the problem, correct? Sure it does, it solves the problem of there being un-shamed fat people waddling around in my vicinity. If they're going to exist and be revolting, they should evince a sufficient level of self awareness, guilt and shame for the visual barrage they inflict on others. Their right to be fat < my right to not have to be exposed to their disgusting corpusculence. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:33 PM
0

If there arent tears of pain or shame streaming down her face, Im out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:56 PM
0

A fellow enlightened mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:43 PM
-3

The blue pill sexual strategy in a nutshell. Shame anyone that refuses to be a fucking dupe lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:42 PM
1

Well like, why be paranoid about shit unlikely to affect you? If anything it makes more sense to concern yourself with risk factors likely to impinge on your current or planned life style. If you want to fuck the same woman repeatedly and eventually whelp your offspring on her, you're going to have to start thinking about divorce and how it might effect you. The hotter, younger and more traditional she is, sadly, the higher the base risk level. Doesn't mean fucking hot young traditional women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:37 PM
0

Raw ass post. Keep telling like it is, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:36 PM
0

Personally, I like my porn to have a delightful tinge of real sadism. Any hint of the woman being actually degraded, pushed beyond her limits, filmed without consent etc gets me sprung. Efukt has some gems, then there's animal on girl, simulated rape porn (the less simulated the better), revenge porn. Meat holes and max hardcore for some old time classics. Oh, and illegally obtained celebrity nudes aka the fappening make for a nice chaser. Before the morality police pulls up let me just say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:33 PM
2

intense hostility and aversion I dont avoid women, i fuck them, and hostility = inflicting death and dismemberment. So imo, not quite the definition of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:12 PM
-4

I think putting women in the same category as animals may actually be an insult to animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 04:56 PM
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The pain of no one believing her false rape accusations must be immense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:39 PM
1

I can think of one: paternity fraud, which isnt even considered to be a crime by the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:11 PM
9

Anyone else find themselves looking at all their female acquaintances fingers since reading this??? I now find myself silently judging women with low digit ratios. Like "Holy shit dat ratio. No wonder you're such a slut."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 02:54 PM
6

Tell that to the negroes brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:01 AM
1

Nice dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:38 PM
1

I know you are, but what am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:37 PM
3

How do you reconcile putting so much emphasis on something you can never truly verify? Weird argument. Lots of people put emphasis on things they can't truly verify. You can't verify that you'll live another day, be able to support your family, etc, but you get up and go to work anyway. If I really wanted to verify your partner count, I probably could. Drop enough cash and I could get a private investigator to do a full background on you, and discreetly at that. It wouldn't be 100% certain, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:56 AM
0

So, which one is it- should we (Male and female) plan our lives around what is most likely going to happen, or aim for that 5% or less chance that we'll hit the sexual jackpot? TRP isn't for the every man. It's for the man willing to work his ass off to be exceptional and better than those around him. I appreciate all the stats and shit in your argument, but at its core is a fundamentally flawed premise. Strategy isn't about plodding through life doing what 50% of people are capable of. It's abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:49 AM
0

None of the people that I know well, and especially none of my close friends, seem to agree with any common RP tenets (regardless of whether or not they know the lingo). Thanks, I will be sure to pass this along to blue pillers who theorize that sexism, racism and discrimination still exists in our society. They even have fancy terms for it like Patriarchy. In short: Either you admit sexism is prevalent, and I win, or you admit feminism is bullshit, and it's still a modest win for me. Damn. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:42 AM
1

Word. We live in a world of bratty attention whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:37 AM
2

Im not advocating anarchy at all. Civilization is an amoral, potent form of power like any other. Just, people aren't generally truthful about that or aware of it, so they don't realize how to exploit it, or how to prevent others from using it to exploit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:36 AM
8

I read this post over on the Blue Pill and it's a very strong and emotional story of a female that has been abused by a man. She labels the man that did this to her an RP man. Fanfic detected lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:56 AM
-1

I think it was more you were identified as a troll and now you're bitching about it like the spoiled little princess pretending to be an oppressed victim you actually are, thus validating their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:55 AM
1

I am flattered to be well known at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:10 PM
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Here's how it works, for a variety of reasons a bunch of man hating harpy feminists decide that all men are aggressors and all women victims and bitch about it non stop. Some weak willed women buy into this, get into a shitty relationship and, rather than reflect on their poor decision making and lack of a spine / take some actual RESPONSIBILITY for themselves, they think "omg femunnizm is right everything be the mans fault." And then turn into weak willed, bitchy complaining machines themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:08 PM
-1

If anything, she ought to be charged for the crime of inflicting blue balls on a man. Women don't understand how serious the effects of that can be. 1000 strokes ought to be a suitable punishment. Lash or cock. Both if she tries to object.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:02 PM
0

Are you sure? I dont really see that as rape. I mean, once a woman unleashes the beast the consequences are on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:59 PM
1

I prefer to think of it as a skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:58 PM
0

This is something to look into. If I was going to breed, I might well pause in between fucking whites and asians to drop a bastard into the nearest suitably fuckable black lady. they seem to be pretty well versed in rearing children in lieu of an actual father, so it seems a decent strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:58 PM
1

Again, I am flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:57 PM
1

Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:57 PM
0

Just a wee bit? You insult me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:56 PM
-1

Agreed. Some men just take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:45 PM
1

My instinct is to say no here, but then... There is the prevalence of rape fantasies and orgasm during rape by women, so... Jury's still out. Needs more field research.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:41 PM
0

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 12:31 PM
1

you say it like its a bad thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 12:14 AM
5

you're right. We're far more vicious than Spartans or Vikings ever were. Industrialized warfare and genocide ftw!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:00 PM
-1

Nah. she consented automatically by getting married. No take-backs =)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:58 PM
3

I remember someone telling me you were a Race Realist. I am flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 01:58 PM
3

If the condom breaks and he doesn't tell me and I catch whatever janky disease he might have, I'm suing him and his entire blood line. If criminal charges are possible, I'm going for that as well. Well I mean, I... i mean he... could always just say he didnt know either. Theoretically. But the point is, is this rape? A woman consents to sex, under the (false) impression that a layer of latex will be in between her private parts and his. Just like how some women consent to sex under the mistaken …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:41 AM
2

Sounds really childish and pointless to me. Would that mean i was also a victim of statutory??? You found out she was part black, not that she was promiscuous or slept with a bunch of black guys. You changed your opinion based on what her parents looked like. Ridiculous. Correction: based on what only one of her parents looked like. I am nothing if not discerning. Maybe you should ask before you fuck people if you're that squeamish about it? That way you know who you're dealing with, and so do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:32 AM
2

Tim????????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:21 AM
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I dont know. Something about black girls just puts me off. Maybe all the stuff I hear about them being promiscuous, and the thought of a bunch of black guys fucking her prior to me grosses me out. Its not something I have much control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:12 AM
0

Or was she part black and it bothered you? If so, reverse my previous statement. Yeah, it kinda got me. I don't generally go for black chicks. The day after we hooked up we were eating at this restaurant, and Im like "so are you like Jewish or what?" Thinking she was maybe spanish and she's like "Oh I look exotic but I'm actually half black." Shit got awkward afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 09:02 AM
3

You are a dumbass if you can't tell.... also, sleazy on the girlfriends part and stupid on your part Ok what if you sleep with a woman, she claims she's on the pill, but you later find out she isn't. If not rape, isn't that at least grounds for say... not having to pay child support?? You can consent beforehand (i.e. you could tell her a week ago "oh, yea, I wouldn't mind if you did this"). You can give consent well before the actual act, or right before. So if you're at a party and on the verge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:56 AM
-1

I know you wont believe me, but #5 actually happened to me. I felt weird afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 08:51 AM
1

Refine his strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:37 AM
-2

So I'm getting an arranged marriage soon, I approve of this traditionalist approach. Don't forget to push through that LMR during the consummation. I mean really HAMMER through it. You want to set the tone of the marriage on day 1. these large breasts will start sagging and thus the woman's SMV will drop precipitously. I find this to be a fine counter point. I'm no tit man myself. I go for thinness, face, body proportion, then a shapely ass then finally tits. (personality never) Remember that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:29 AM
8

In what way do you view what this man is saying? What are your feelings regarding it? Be frank. Nothing is irrelevant. Inexperienced kid has his fantasy world rudely taken away and shattered by well meaning assholes. Wants to retreat back into said fantasy world and rages against his liberators while knowing deep down you can never go home again. Do you feel the same way? If you do, can you elaborate for us? In a way, yeah. I mean, blue pill lies are so seductive. They do as much brainwashing po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:20 AM
3

This is a pretty shitty situation of course. However, could Alfie's friend legitimately be upset if the sex caused him to get back with his ex? This would be like if I came up to you like "brah I found your sandwich that you lost the other day, here ya go." And you were like "thanks sh1v damn I been looking for this all over, mmm om nom nom yum yum" And i was like "dewd I actually fucked that sandwich and came in it but its all good, I Mean at least you got your sandwich back. Besides you seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:51 AM
2

Its actually a good thing to be entitled. It shows youre A) high status B) accustomed to getting what you want to the point where you no longer feel it is a privilege, but an ordinary facet of your life. Entitlement is akin to assuming the sale, if done right - its a display of confidence and assertiveness. I think most blue pillers who claim to dislike "entitlement" actually dislike its close cousin, resentment. Resentment is the sexually frustrated prole's version of entitlement. Where entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:42 AM
0

First, the extent to which RP forums and articles advise, advocate, create norms, shame or praise are determinants to the extent that they are engaging in moral advocacy and moral positioning - and I've seen all these things on the RP websites. Perhaps, but the rp forums and rp websites are not synonymous with sexual strategy. The fact that a demographic group who incidentally discuss a thing have shared beliefs does not move the thing itself into the moral realm. Second, the narrow focus of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 02:31 PM
-1

This is because moralists -- historically the priest caste, today comprised of liberal intellectuals -- have a vested interest in expanding their purview and influence. A shaman says "god is everywhere; obey me or you will suffer in the spirit world." A blue piller says "everything is moral; obey us or face our judgement and Society's." Just wanted to help you along on the path of self knowledge and eventual total cynicism about yourself and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 02:15 PM
9

I actually feel pretty good about most of the things on the 7 positive traits list. Of course, implementing them in a practical fashion requires a certain degree of... interpretation, which could just wreak further devastation if done wrong. A pushover will use this list to figure out how he can be even more nice and supplicating. A bitch will use this list to figure out how her eunuch partner ought to be even more nice and supplicating. This is why I think the most important thing for people to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:34 AM
3

It's as good as you'll find in the social sciences. So, not very good then =/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:28 AM
-4

I notice when you ask blue pillers whether they'd want to settle down with someone with a high partner count, half of them are like "ew, no." And then why you ask why they're like "Um I dunno, just personal preference... I don't want to say... SHUT UP! STOP LOOKING AT ME!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 08:47 AM
0

Lol but talk about women hitting the wall and this blue piller will be among the first to white knight. Guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 08:44 AM
4

Im taking notes here. How did he avoid getting cleaned out by her lawyer, or did he just decide to take the hit? This is looking like the start of a solid sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 09:01 AM
0

I'd become a dyke and fuck other women with huge strap ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:59 AM
0

God im glad i missed those posts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:55 AM
1

This is like revenge porn for blue pillers lol. I mean, does the fact that this account is freshly made and the story obviously fake bother any of you? Anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:53 AM
4

I would put myself on this list yeah. I would think "Ok golden rule, you should treat people how you want to be treated. So how would I want this chick to act towards me, oh I know, I'd like her to immediately engage me with a combination of friendship/romance culminating in an offer of sex." Did not work out for me too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:52 AM
1

omg please stick around! We need more novelty accounts on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:48 AM
1

Insightful post. Very succinct. I'm saving this one for later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:47 AM
0

I dunno, bridesmaids was pretty funny. Anyone see this movie and think it was good? In my experience women aren't that interested in ghost hunting or haunted shit in general. Me and my former roommates were planning this expedition to a local abandoned hospital that was notorious for paranormal shit, all our respective girlfriends noped out instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:42 PM
0

Is it just me or was there no argument in that quoted segment? It's like it just stated what some RPers believe without really attempting to refute it. Granted the language used makes the authors opposition clear, but I'm not seeing any reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:33 PM
0

This chick qualifies if anyone does: https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/FayeKane
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 02:38 PM
-7

Islam is too soft on women TBh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 01:30 PM
-18

At the same time, sex is not bad for adult women, and it's actually pretty necessary for the good of society. Therefore, there's no reason to prevent it. Slight quibble here, comrade. Women do lose a smidge of value with each cock they take. Less able to bond and all that. I believe the world would be a better place if cooler, wiser heads decided when and with whom most women have sex. Elders, patriarchs and the like. On removing her "consent" from the equation, though, you have my full support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:33 PM
19

Alright so you have two points here. One is that someone can be socially programmed to enjoy different types of food. The other is that socialization should be the default explanation for EVERY observed behavior. Problem is, the first point doesn't come anywhere CLOSE to supporting the second point. Simply having a greater susceptibility to social engineering doesn't mean instincts are unimportant or irrelevant. I can think of a number of objections here. One is that humans don't enjoy eating ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:20 PM
1

When women's achievements made hunting no longer necessary in the way in was before, men stayed at the camp. The growing of crops meant the start of property - and then men began wanting to pass their property down to heirs, and wanted to be sure that their children were really theirs. The beginning of restrictions placed on women and industries taken away from them. Sounds good. Men sustained women during the early game when the tribe was vulnerable to rushes by sabretooths. Protected the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 06:36 AM
-4

Sir! You will take back those slanderous accusations at once! How dare you imply that I would besmirch the sanctity of the PPD CMV thread, which has heretofore resulted in so many open minded discussions and changed views. Even so, I'll make my next one a discussion thread. Just for you, pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:41 PM
0

Least blue pill blue piller I've met all day. Finally, some sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:38 PM
-3

Both men and women cheat and men too are victims of revenge porn. Have you heard of the crazy girl that upload nudes of you on fb? Lols she'd be deleting in a hurry after her girlfriends came pouring in with the likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:35 PM
-7

And when one of your exes finds her private images online, pegs you as the source and comes to take revenge by snapping your prick off, that's like, justice served right? Lolz sure. Although the only way thats happening is as the result of an overly enthusiastic, gymnastic fuck session. Who cares what happens to a revenge porn poster, they're on par with child molesters anyway. That actually brings me to another point, the age of consent should be moved down to 16. More on that in my next thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:30 PM
-4

Im not saying some men dont do it just for shits and giggles, and I frown upon that. However the overall... thrust of revenge porn is laudable. It is porn used to avenge oneself. Porn that serves a higher purpose. Punishment porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:15 PM
-2

Yeah, see, the sword doesnt cut both ways. Objectification doesnt bother me, hell, i welcome it. Masturbate to me all you like, you filthy little whores. Gays too. Doesnt bother me a whit, not like the cum stains seep through the monitor and onto me somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:11 PM
-7

Sure man. Right after posting everything youve got on her. Get that venom out of your system, then self improve and fuck bitches erryday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 10:30 AM
-5

Why not both? You can call me the x-man. With the power to make sluts actually pay for their transgression. Or at the very least, enable men to get off at their expense since apparently that's what these sluts want anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 09:11 AM
-2

I think, like it or not, having sex videos on the internet can lead to harassment and feelings (it's not just a feeling) of being violated so severe that some people spiral down into a deep depression or kill themselves Why would i not? Justice is fucking served, baby. Reroll and think about what you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:57 AM
-1

7"? And that's just when flaccid. In all honesty, leaking revenge porn only reflects on your own immaturity and poor self control. Au contraire. These 30-45 minute porn quality vids reflect quite highly on my self control I can assure you. I dont do kegels for nothing brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:53 AM
-8

The slut would probably enjoy it, so not a sufficient punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:24 AM
11

First reason is that women dont suffer the burden of approach. They can just hang around a bunch of dudes and wait to be hit on. If theres a particular guy she's eyeing she can just subtly let it be known she's interested and he'll usually come up to her. Its all very skewed towards women being passive. Second part of this is, much of PUA emphasizes getting laid quick. Most women either arent interested in this or dont cop to being interested (perhaps even to themselves) - those that do can just…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:22 AM
3

I almost thought this was a redpill post lol. Because from my perspective, these supposed clarifications ARE the lies society tells us. “Hot girls” are not another species of human completely devoid of insecurities and other human emotions. Putting a “hot girl” down because you think she must get complimented all the time, acting aloof and uninterested to attract attention, and being rude or mean because you assume she’s catered to will NOT work. Purpose of this blue pill lie is twofold: 1) So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:58 AM
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Would you use The League? Sure. The elitism of the app is itself a form of preselection. Since women can't simply mass reject hundreds of men per sitting as they so enjoy doing, they're in a more receptive mindset. Scarcity cuts both ways. Also, while you encounter nothing but gold diggers, some basic manipulation and higher levels of alpha than your average high earning guy using a gold-diggardly dating app will enable you to get free sex tokens from women hoping to get commitment tokens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:00 AM
2

Is there anything I'm missing? Suggestions? Is this a viable test? Serious talk for a sec, I dont think you should really try this. From the bits and pieces I've heard about your relationship, the specific guy you're with wouldn't appreciate these changes. Certainly, if you were shooting to snag a high(er) value mate, they'd be sound practices, but y'know. If it ain't broke, don't fix it - the fact that your sex life is healthy is already a tell that things are already operating at peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 03:06 AM
0

Needs a link brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:02 PM
7

We'll call it a wash then. I think this thread should be renamed too. # of lifetime partners is just disingenuous. "# of reported lifetime partners" would be a lot more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:55 AM
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This presents a considerable challenge to TRP beliefs about the cock carousel and spinning plates - only a minority of people are doing that and the rest is pluralistic ignorance. No it doesnt, it confirms the fact that people lie about these things. http://phys.org/news10824.html
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:43 AM
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Lol see, whoever wrote this thought they were gonna catch RPers being hypocritical. But nah, turns out generalizations make sense regardless of who's taking the flak. I will take OP's complete lack of responses in here as an admission that he/she was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:37 AM
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A good guy is a nice guy who is slightly better at concealing his motives and agenda (including to himself).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 01:48 AM
-2

This is easily explained. At one time or another, the red pill founders read the book, 1984, and mistook it for an instruction manual. At least they were well read... :O)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 12:22 AM
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He didn't need TRP. He needed therapy. And lots of it. He was mentally ill and TRP would have done nothing. Either you think his actions reflect on TRP or you dont. If you dont, just stop talking because you have no point. If you do, stop asserting that TRP wouldve had no relevance to his life's trajectory. Edit: Also you are being ridiculous if you think you can take the moral high ground. Call me when you have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 12:11 AM
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this is specifically about red pillers who believe women are mentally, intellectually and emotionally immature yet also believe that women are receiving "pussy pass.' And my argument is that those RPers you talk about wouldnt have a problem if society treated women like children in EVERY respect and not just when it comes to crime/sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 12:02 AM
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Which TRP could've solved by guiding him to the enlightened slut exploitation phase. Rather than him remaining a frustrated incel. It's funny, you guys want so hard for him to have been Redpill, but he wasnt. It's like the deaths of all those women mean less than scoring some Internet points against redpillers... And you call us criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 11:37 PM
0

Is this cause of that whole Eliot roger thing? You know he was not a member of TRP right? In fact he was anti TRP. I see this thread as An attempt to imply that anger stage rp men are going to commit gun violence which, has yet to ever happen. Also a liberal pinch of "all men are beasts who cannot control themselves, take away their rights nao!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 11:25 PM
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No judge says "women are less mentally developed than men therefore I am letting this woman off light." If they did, we'd also need to take away other responsibilities women are not mature enough for. Like voting, being in the military or public office, etc. Society is hypcritical for saying one thing about gender equality and then doing another, and that's why pussy pass sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 11:18 PM
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Me I always favor a focused approach. In this case, it'd be getting women specifically to reject him in a sexual context. Fuck all the tap dancing around. Just take the plunge..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:32 AM
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When did I ever say i wasnt insecure about my penis......?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:30 AM
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Not unless its with a dildo of sufficient size (larger than my cock). ALso black dildos are frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 02:10 AM
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Do you think that the reason there are few men in his comments is because men aren't interested in dating advice from a leftist/feminist perspective, and prefer places (like TRP and Seduction) more focused on getting inside a woman's panties? I can propose one explanation, the name Dr. Nerdlove doesn't strike me as particularly promising for a man purporting to give advice on masculinity, scoring with chicks, etc. Maybe if his name was Wolf Ladykiller or Unrepentant Patriarch. Dr. nerdlove is ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:58 PM
1

Im having trouble processing your response lol. You did write "no" but the overall tone of your response doesnt really gel with that no. Let me rephrase. Are straight white men acceptable targets for racism/sexism because they are the "law writers"? Or are straight white men too politically/idealogically diverse a group to target in this manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:57 PM
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Damn, you convinced me. Good eye. Few woman would be this knowingly and overtly shameless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:38 AM
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Somewhat random question - do you think the world would be a better place if lying was impossible? Like if we could all overhear each others thoughts. It would pretty much eliminate cheating, that much is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:29 AM
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Well, thing is, language is complicated. I can't speak for everyone but the reason I use terms like cock carousel is for BOTH clarity, and to insult/aggravate/have fun. I do happen to believe that a certain sizeable portion of young, entitled western twats are fucking and sucking their way through a chain of alphas before having a 'revelation' and deciding to settle down... and I'm sure you disagree. But, I'm not trying to magic the phenomenon into existence via linguistic hand waving. It's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:10 AM
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Quick question for you, since you're a logical sort. I think the OP's point is "here is a bunch of posts from women who cheat, and it seems like a majority of them do it for X reason" -- X reason being their desire for a more alpha, masculine, dominant lover. Few of the women at that sub seem to be saying they're in it for the emotional support, because their husband didn't respect them as equals enough, or what have you. My question is, do you agree with this "read" on r/adultery, and if so, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:03 AM
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Claim: we're just calling things by their real names. Reality: we're deliberately using words and phrases whose meaning originally or subsequently started having a demeaning, insulting element, while pretending they don't when convenient. I dont see those as irreconcilable. Who determines what the 'real' name for a phenomenon is? Society? The dictionary editors? Your lit professor? If you have a term, with a negative connotation, that you think adequately explains a phenomenon as well as adding …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 07:59 AM
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Im not saying youre wrong, but could you quote the part of the study that explains that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:07 AM
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I have no sympathy for the mother unless she was raped or abused in some way. But every child deserves a basic level of care. Maybe those children would be better off in federally subsidised foster care or orphanages. I don't know. I'd like to suggest a solution: Mandatory IUD for women until they pass a test that says they're responsible enough to reproduce. A few forced abortions/sterilizations ala China would also get the message through. Some problems are best nipped in the bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:49 AM
1

He also acts and looks like the Big Scary Black Guy he is. Them angry nostrils...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:45 AM
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Well I mean, there's only one other way to lower their 'population density' but something tells me you aren't on board for that one either. =O\
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:26 AM
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I would love to hear what you all have to say about this. Do you support the use of race/sex/age heurestics? Yes, wholeheartedly. Call me what you will, I am no hypocrite. Condolences on the lack of BP responses here, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:23 AM
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So we just need to spread the negroes out, in effect. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:21 AM
0

Would you say this logic also applies to straight white men, as stated in the OP? Are straight white men open to criticism and attack since they enjoy 'power' and 'privilege?' While other demographics are essentially protected classes since they are victims according to the same narrative that makes white men out as some kind of bogeyman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:20 AM
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yet physical attractiveness actually increased in importance as relationship length increased among participants reporting on dating and marriage partners. Halo effect. If you're satisfied with your partner, you tend to perceive them as physically attractive whether they actually are or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:13 AM
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No this is a man saying what the fuck has the MRM done for men? Oh i see. So it's like in that movie Django where the house negro Steven gets on the new uppity black for questioning the masters. If we could rape women, shit would be so much better amirite? /s You would be surprised. Thats a conversation for another thread though. Ill let you start it. "The Pros and Cons of legalizing rape" should be a sufficiently neutral title.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:49 PM
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Dont worry mate. The average penis cant fit in all those holes, so theyre safe. Well, relatively speaking. Also the future generations of girls get at least an 18 year grace period before i sink my teeth in. Edit: 18 if I'm feeling generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:44 PM
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Me too, brah. You tell em. Wait, fuck, i meant because I banged the asses! Not because MY ass had anything up it! Fuck, shit... do I seem gay now? Fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:35 PM
2

The interest in the glory hole is as much for psychological reasons as it is for the exquisite tightness and novelty of a fresh hole. You may fuck a woman, but have you really fucked her if you haven't plumbed the forbidden depths, where only a few other intrepid penises have been?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:34 PM
1

Please show me some type of evidence for this that is not found outside of the MRA subreddit, or their designated corners of the internet. Thsi is a lot like a white slave holder saying "show me the evidence for black people being unhappy that is found outside of the negro pens, or their designated corners of the coal mine." Again, not trying to compare the two, since modern man is in a much worse position.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:30 PM
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The MRM has been doing those things pretty consistently. As the slaves in the 1700s were probably protesting, creating awareness and blowing up on social media, so too have MRAs. Just, in the absence of actual power, such actions dont tend to get any results except lychings, and being ridiculed by the dominant class publicaly for daring to go against the status quo. (I dont mean to compare the plight of the slaves to the plight of modern men in the west, btw... since its pretty obvious modern we…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:25 PM
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Theres no dishonor so long as you had your fingers crossed!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:31 PM
1

Alright man, I gave it a skim. Its just funny to me that this professional dominatrix wants more men to get "liberated" and become basically, faggots. (No offense) Its like... a professional dominatrix writes this big social article about how she wants more men to become sexually liberated... presumably so that she can have more customers. Lil conflict of interest there. Lil bias creeping in, methinks. Its a lot like if I wrote that women of the world should all become good submissive little slu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:45 PM
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Before i read, can you say if there is anything in the article other than the usual "bla bla rich white mens own fault for creating patriarchy bla blA PRIVILEGE, men need to be less traditionally masculine and more accomodating of FEMINISM (also other non rich white straight male peoples rights)" Because yknow. Im tired of seeing/refuting that terrible argument time and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 04:25 PM
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My sexual strategy in that case would be to pound dat ass and then execute a smoothly timed take-backsie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 03:25 PM
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Nagging isn't alpha. Dread game would be ok here. But the whole multiple attempts even though rejected multiple times already, fuck that. At that point next her and get a more malleable piece of flesh if anal is that important to you. What would TRP tell a couple if the roles were reversed and the girlfriend wanted/pressured for anal sex while the boyfriend found it too gross or something? Nothing wrong with a lil prostate stimulation brah. Quit being a pussy and just let stick her fingers up yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 03:22 PM
0

Yes, you can see how this works by the fact that my comment is also the top voted comment in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:57 AM
2

the realist nigga out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:36 AM
1

Second, there are a surprising amount of "race realists" on the board. Now I'm not sure if they are trolls, contrarians, or genuine, but these guys exist. As a race realist id just like to quickly address this. Asians and Indian men actually do just fine on my racial power ranking. Historically, what are the most civilized places on earth other than places white men rule? That's right, India and Asia. Hell China could put forth an argument for being THE most civilized place on earth for the long…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:55 AM
1

I dunno bout chicks, but I think a lot of dudes pretend to care (even to themselves) about shit like "patriarchy" because they think it will get them pussy/respect. It's like a way of saying "Look ladies, Im not like one of those other vile MEN, Im an enlightened nice guy who knows how to treat a woman RIGHT." Of course, he never actually gets laid on the basis of this strategy and maybe he even hamsters that he's ok with that but deep down inside, he's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:48 AM
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A peculiar sense of irony, or real heartlessness / lovelessness? The real deal. Fuck having a heart. Im the pre-op tin man. That is interesting! This sounds like the towns of old times with the rumor / gossip mill and a lot of judgementalism. Why do your social circles feel the need to judge? I dunno. Nothing better to do than count our money i guess. I do think most men have an INSTINCTIVE hatred of cuckoldry and all those associated with it including the cucks - I know i do. If a guy had just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:41 AM
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Lmao. This guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:24 AM
1

Why is cheating such a big deal for you? Thats a good question, I might even be ok with allowing my fugly, child bearing house slave to fuck other men on the side, but for a few reasons. 1) Paternity 2) Social consequences. You cant really operate in the social circles I do as a known cuckold. Once the secrets out you have to eject the wife and grab a new one, preferably hotter, whatever your personal feelings on the matter. Its all an interesting thought experiment, but yknow. I do live in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 02:21 AM
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I, too, like to sort by controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 11:00 AM
0

Excellent summation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 10:38 AM
1

Im still mad!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:22 AM
0

My nigga!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:57 AM
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Wut. My sheep analogy did not mention straight or white men at all. Just that to be hypersensitivity was evolutionary selected for among sheep. Then lets try and shear off some of these baaa-aa-aaad analogies. Why is it ok for people to perceive a man who isnt sexist as a sexist? Straight up answer that doesnt blame men for women being sexist would be appreciated. I mean two wrongs dont make a right and all. Otherwise it would be ok for me to rape women who make false rape allegations, steal fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:54 AM
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The problem with this is that when/if she does cheat, you just wasted 10 years of your life and didnt even get to fuck a hot chick. However, I agree with this in a way. I think plenty of alpha dudes throughout history have settled with a good strong hipped, fugly, yet skilled home maker. While continuing to fuck hot chicks on the side, of course. A less socially acceptable practice nowadays, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:41 AM
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Guy taking her on the trip is the bigger beta; he's gonna pay for all her drinks and then watch her go home with some French guy Top voted comment in that RP thread says the guy was beta and wasnt actually gonna score. TRP's assessment: confirmed. You were saying...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:38 AM
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Oh i see your position now. Its ok for you to do these "cost benefit analysis" vs straight white men because society tells you its ok, and Im a vile sexist/racist because society says I am. Thus coming full circle on the sheep analogy. What you forgot to take into account is that, according to this study, society perceives men who treat women as equals as bigots, so society's verdict is actually that everyone must continue to be sexist. Which I will gladly do, albeit, not in the servile, woman-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:36 AM
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Yeah, see, cost benefit analysis is the same reason I refuse to hire blacks, treat women like the carousel riding materialistic insipid wenches you mostly are, vote against gay rights, and so on. Yet when I use a "cost benefit analysis" it's vile discrimination, when you do it it's... What? Enlightened rationalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:52 AM
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Right after you refer to the section that explains how the men with low BS are actually just pretending and are sexist deep down inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:34 AM
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Is that why you cross the street whenever you see a black guy coming your way? Oh wait, I forgot. Bluepillers are only ok with racism and sexism when it targets cishet white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:30 AM
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Its funny, because youre hypothesizing that the men in the study are only acting to be egalitarian, but you refuse to address the point that the women in the study are only acting to be egalitarian, by punishing the men who dont give them special privileges. Maybe its just easier for women to go on the offense and construct 'patriarchy' theories about how everything is mens fault, than pretend to care about other women being sexist against men? Maybe theres this kind of mental block you have tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:22 AM
1

http://www.bradley.edu/dotAsset/196920.pdf A quick refutation put together by skeptics of the skeptics. Two key paragraphs for the lazy, special emphasis on the second: Even if Conley et al. (2011) had conceptually limited their skepticism to sex differences in long-term mate preferences, a proper scientific re-evaluation of evolutionary predictions requires the acknowledgment of previous investigations into real-world mating. Several studies of actual marital choice have found that women (but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:15 AM
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Yeah, in other words: look at what women do, not what they say. Act perfectly egalitarian? Refuse to give women the perks and privileges associated with their gender? You're a misogynist pig. Women claim to want equal treatment, but peel back the layers of hypocrisy and you find a massive entitlement complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:07 AM
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You know what I don't like? Being surrounded by hyper sensitive sheep who presume every straight white male they encounter is a wolf despite any and all evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:02 AM
1

Death penalty for wives who start refusing to have sex would be a good start
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 08:50 PM
3

Preach it brother. This is what i keep telling them, but if theyre going to do it anyway may as well do it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:26 PM
3

With the power of TRP. Also a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:13 PM
0

Hence the need for the death penalty for any wife who decides to stop putting out or husband who decides to stop providing. Well maybe not the death penalty. Make it a hundred lashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:05 PM
0

I wouldn't actually encourage a man to settle. If you can't pull young hot fresh pussy attached to an obedient traditional brain and fit body, why the fuck are you even deigning to get married...? If the answer is "cause I missed the boat up til this point but still want to reproduce / pool resources" my stance is still scorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:02 PM
1

Fuck I was hoping that would be a link to girl on girl porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:57 PM
3

Clear skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:56 AM
1

Yup. Thats part of the reason for alimony laws. A woman shares her fresh young hot pussy, a man shares his sum earning potential over his lifetime. Neither side can back out. Problem is nowadays women are allowed to back out of their side, as well as summarily eject out of the relationship with half the dude's loot against his will, laying claim to half his resources without providing the customary lifetime of sexual access. So women are still protected by marriage, dudes not so much. I'd say it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:45 AM
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Not if the bread gatekeepers really want a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 02:39 AM
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Upvoted for truth. We've all seen them say it before. Just with more words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:41 AM
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You began your post by quoting the life philosophy of a fictional character who had no friends, no emotional intimacy with anyone in his life, was likely an alcoholic, and whose only joy was killing other people. In other words, a bad ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:39 AM
0

At least you admit it exists...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 06:44 AM
1

Theres no need to be so defensive about it - if you want to fuck only people of your own race, that's fine with me brah. Im a racist too. I just dun get why you have to pretend like its for "cultural" reasons. I mean, we're on the internet. The thought police is not going to come break your door in for admitting youre a racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 05:34 PM
1

And you get to decide this... why, exactly? AFAIK you've just arbitrarily decided that personal views and idealogy are of paramount importance in a relationship but of no importance in the workplace. Maybe because allowing racism in one sphere but not the other is exceedingly convenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 05:11 PM
1

Why are you blaming RP men for this? RP men are not in the majority and i have no problem marrying a poor woman if she exhibits feminine qualities, virtue, low partner count, not a single mother, etc. Obviously the culture in the hood wouldnt promote that. But you could probably find good prospects in the south or rural areas. The real problem here, which you refused to state out loud for idealogical reasons, is that most men outside of TRP are very classist when it comes to dating. Most affluen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:48 PM
1

Are gender and race social concepts or natural ones? 90% natural. There are mixed race mutts who dont quite fit into any category, and from what ive read, a number of brain conditions / weird birth defects can cause gender to become mixed up in the brain even if genitalia says otherwise. But for most people, you are what you were born as. Are equality and fairness social concepts or natural ones? Like 50/50. The only reason I say this is because I think people have an instinctive sense of justic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:42 PM
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Self improvement young squire. The element missing in your analysis is that you can actually change who you are. You want as much as possible of your real persona to be attractive/high quality. Dont just fake assertive, be assertive. Be fit, have lots of muscle mass, up your T, verbally spar with people until it becomes second nature, improve your posture and body language, develop exciting hobbies, get a good career. You'll still need game on top of all that, but you wont be leaning on it. It'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:39 PM
1

A rationalization used to prevent yourself from acknowledging your own racism. Similar to if i only wanted to hire whites (and I do, although a few asian engineers would also be good) because "culture is important to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:34 PM
1

I see you've been looking, babe. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:32 PM
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Will do brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:30 PM
1

Hey, insult me as a father all you like, but my seeds are anything but shitty. >=\
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:28 PM
1

Would you put it at 55% cultural, 45% racial?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:24 PM
1

High five brah. Ferreted out that speck of white blood: the elixir what makes African Americans the Aryans of the black world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:19 PM
0

Oh, but I do. They're 50 shades of racist, some more than others, but they're all at least a little evil deep down inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:17 PM
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Your privilege is showing brah... and I approve. Flaunt it if you got it. You should've also mentioned how Harvard just isnt as diverse as the PR department would have you believe, and how more minorities need to start going to country clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:16 PM
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Depends on the APP. THe study on the facebook app found that to be true. Its unsurprising btw that women will shame and denigrate white men for being privileged, members of the patriarchy, etc, and then obsessively seek to date them. Classic hamstering. Other studies, like the OK cupid, found more heavy preference for dating in one's own race.... but i mean, in a way your logic is a complete fail because if i said "Im only hiring whites because theyre more egalitarian" its a self contradiction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:12 PM
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I take it all back. >=(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:06 PM
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This is by far and large the most common excuse FTFY. it's pretty telling of BPers that they see something that is pretty basic common racism in dating, and think "women are wonderful!" and "no woman can possibly do any wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:06 PM
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you seem to be mentally locked into how things used to be, old concepts. evolution is about change. I like to think of them as oldies but goodies. Evolution is about a set of genes propagating itself. evolution is about change. we are moving from the era of transgenerational evolution to intergenerational evolution. I wonder what BPers will have to say about me a 1000 year old dude still fucking 18 year olds. Yknow that whole "omg youre taking advantage of her with your AGE AND EXPERIENCE". It'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:25 PM
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Maybe the studies werent measuring what the womens pussies were doing, only what their mouths were doing (making words). common rookie mistake, should introduce them to TRP when you get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:11 PM
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Brah if it werent complicated they wouldnt need a theory for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:09 PM
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You cant take over the world without continuing to breed. Also fucking women feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:05 PM
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Too bad life is not a prisoner's dilemma. In real life there's no guard or walls stopping you from killing the other guy and taking all of his tit-tats. Or in a more capitalistic, developed system - fucking the other guy economically, converting his labor into your gain, and having him absorb all your losses/risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:04 PM
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how does that viewpoint make sense within the context of tribalism becoming less of a force? i.e. globalism, internationalism, one world government, racial interbreeding? seems like the enemy used to be foreigners, people not in our tribe, but now it's pollution, energy shortages, things that threaten everyone, life on earth. And what are the sources of those problems? Other people. The threats aren't going away, they're diversifying and multiplying. You used to be able to trust your family, tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:01 PM
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3290787/ Natural selection definitely occured amongst Negroes in America. You could argue what and where the precise effects were, but DNA dont lie. "A couple hundred years of Africans enslaved" had a serious impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:51 PM
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Discouraging post comrade. Yet I still feel I must expose these niggling inconsistencies where they appear. If for no other reason than the enjoy the resultant cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:43 PM
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stigma that only sluts and girls that "hate their father" date black guys Stigma? Or highly accurate public perception? You make a good point though, in that particularly slutty "curvaceous" (fat) women dating black guys creates a vicious cycle of blacks being seen as only fit for the most unfit white whales, leading yet more whales to pursue these blacks guys under the assumption their "booty" will gain them a greater degree of appreciation from their negroid paramours. Black guys too, do littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:39 PM
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Damn I forgot to use the word narcissism in the OP. But I agree. Women are pretty racist not just against men, but also babies. They pretend to be all enlightened and liberal but when the dick hits the pussy, truth comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:40 PM
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Yeah, it's great for wiping out other groups with less organization, but the end goal is the same: smash your enemies, smash pussy, and pass on your genes like the vicious meat sack you pretend you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:32 PM
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The world IS against you brah. Survival of the fittest. Competition is everywhere. Fuck bitches before others can get to their pussies first or you won't be able to pass on your genes. That's not opinion, that's just biology. Only the strong will prosper, only the strong will conquer, conflict is the crucible of the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:30 PM
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Good call. Asian women just so happen to mysteriously share the same cultural values as the tall handsome rich kings of the status quo known as white men. Somehow, asian culture is divided in a way that leads asian women to have more in common with white men than asian men. MAkes sense brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:21 PM
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everyone is racist. For real. Nothing is funnier to me than the effete beta desperately asserting his lack of racism, while Raekwon from the hood stares contemptuously. All minorities respect is strength, that goes double for women. Theres no sense trying to tell them you arent racist, or sexist or privileged or whatever the accusation is. May as well earn the crime, since you're going to be assumed guilty no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:17 PM
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Why cant it be both????
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:14 PM
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Not me, I want a harem of concubines and bed slaves from all over. Unless a blatantly african baby popped out my Madonna whore wife's pussy, much to my dismay. Then we might have a prob.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:12 PM
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It actually does, it's why black people from the US are exceptional athletes. They were bred specifically for strength and the weak ones died along the middle passage, were worked to death, not used as studs/breeders, etc. I'd agree with you normally but this wasn't just natural selection, it was eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:02 PM
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Men however don't have to worry as much about these risks, they get to see the upside of spreading their genetic code among a much different group of people. They can protect themselves and don't have to worry about being pushed out of a community as they don't depend on it as heavily as a woman with children. For real. Male fucking master-race. At least until feminism got its hooks in. If I could, I'd gather about me a harem of women from all different races. Sire a rainbow squad of bastards, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:00 PM
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Comments like these are why I stay subbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:56 PM
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I won't comment any more on your hateful language. You know that you used it and you know why. I wasn't aware you commented on it to begin with, but thanks anyway. If you look at larger scale data, such as censuses and Pew surveys available on the Wikipedia page on interracial marriage in the US, you will notice that it varies depending on race. For example, in 2008, 22% of black men married outside their race, while only 9% of black women did. I expect it will also vary in other countries, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:54 PM
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Such people would have usually been invaders, and a risk to your safety. Great point. One can never underestimate the impact of bio-truths. Men seeing exotic women "Oh goodie, a slave to rape, despoil and carry back to my lands. Hopefully she survives the 1000 mile journey back to Istanbul." Women seeing exotic men "Holy fuck RUN!" Since women get more choice than men in dating, women's racism is more apparent. If men and women were equally choosy, I'm not sure there would be a divergence in rac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:50 PM
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I've noticed this with black women. See here. Possible bio explanation: black women who preferred black men were better able to pass on their genes. Reason being that through most of US history any racial mixing carried an enormous stigma and would make you a pariah. I got a lot of flack from my friends for dating my ex, a bearded stylishy white guy. There's a term for this btw: lumbersexual. Google it and you can thank me for the masturbation material later. Also... it's true to me at least tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:39 PM
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As someone who is mixed race, I can't really date my own race, I've never really understood the whole identify with your race thing. Sure you can, find another person with the same racial mixture. We're all mongrels in a way, women just like less mongrely mongrels for whatever reason. Basically, mixed race are better because we are less inbred. Maybe women are inherently incestuous / enjoy inbreeding. This would explain women with daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 03:33 PM
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Wife goggles and she gives fantastic head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:18 AM
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Dat reveal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:49 AM
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My theory: They're not fucking them out of attraction, they're doing it to raise their social status. Fucking an alpha widow automatically places you in a similar social bracket as the alpha in question. This was a thing all the way back when Marc Antony fucked Caesars former bitch cleopatra to cement the image of himself as a great leader. It's a kind of one upmanship. In a way it has little to do with the women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:02 AM
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Man, I gave it the old college try, but nothing worked. Any suggestions? Gain about 40 lbs. I guarantee this will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:43 PM
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Actually, this is a good counter argument. I think I can get behind people of both genders sprucing themselves up to not look like slobs. I don't know how well your logic holds for that gender and with its neuroses and vanity, but good reasoning nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:41 PM
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I wouldnt even hatefuck Clair Underwood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:35 PM
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Do teenaged girls still do that? And here I thought TRP was the one making all the generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:34 PM
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Solid point. This is what I'm driving at. When a woman dresses up "for herself" she's, conscious or no, conforming to an externally imposed definition of what's attractive. She might make slight deviations within that framework but she's still shooting to be within the attractive range. Even a woman trying to do something striking or intentionally shocking is still doing it for the attention. You might tell yourself you're just crafting an image, or expressing yourself, but you're still expressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:33 PM
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Solid reasoning, except hitler was a pretty alright dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:24 PM
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Lmao made my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:22 PM
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Aren't you black? What. One can't be black and racist? That itself is racist. Good on you, even if I don't agree with your particular flavor of racism. I'm not black myself, though. So more racists during winter, less racists during summer. Makes sense. The other way around dude. Probably cause those with darker pigmentation are better adapted for high intensity sunlight, so there's more of them around to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:14 PM
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Oh I'm capable, I just choose not to :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:23 PM
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Cry more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:26 PM
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It sounds even better when someone else quotes it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:20 PM
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As racist as the day is long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:18 PM
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Same as taking MMA classes so no one rapes me! I would respect the chick that did that. Big step up from the whole " I take infinite risks and expect society to change to ensure my safety despite my senseless behavior"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:02 PM
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Im shooting for a negative score, wish me luck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:14 PM
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Nah, I mean, thats so absolutist. You arent allowed to analyze how well someone else is treating you, ever, or you have some kind of disorder...? I wont deny that many RP men have those self esteem / desirability issues, but to overcome them, first you have to face them. The starting point is a dude just drifting along in relationships allowing mediocrity and the whole 'settling' syndrome to fester unquestioned. After TRP that guy will begin to seriously ask himself how satisfied he is with his …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:13 PM
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what does red pill worry about women settling for them say about their self esteem, desirability? i.e. are their issues/insecurity/unattractiveness their bigger problem? I dont doubt many of the guys who come to TRP have issues with all of the above. Self improvement is the best place to focus your energy if you are at that stage. However, self improvement is itself worthless unless you can leverage it to achieve your goals, including sexual goals. To really do that well, you have to be at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:01 PM
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You aint seen nothing yet!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:49 PM
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I admit it wasnt my most serious work, but I was trying to make a point in there that slut shaming, desiring a low partner count woman, etc are somewhat instinctive. Too many RPers as well as BPers are trying to like... pretty it up, and say that it's just that they've read a bunch of stats, exercised REASON, and then come to the conclusion that they want to settle down with a low partner count person. Which is bs. Most of the reasons people pull out are rationalizations for what they already fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:45 PM
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I guess my conservative credentials have now been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:48 AM
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Good follow up questions, ill answer them right after you answer the questions in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:47 AM
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I wrote a lengthy post entitled "Why Taking A penis other than mine, and particularly larger than mine, ruins you permanently" but it seems to have been removed from the front page. Suffice to say that there are more reasons, mostly biological/instinctive... hate for sluts doesn't just arise out of pure logic like a philosophical axiom. Even if it did, no one would give a shit as instincts usually override logic to begin with. Naw, man. Slut hate comes from the heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:23 AM
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I agree with your gist, but it's still WAY different from just saying all approaching, hitting on women etc. is beta. There's a lot of subtlety here. The hard social reality is that men are expected to lead/initiate these interactions. The less obvious reality is that if you're paying attention you can pretty much instantly tell if your interest is reciprocated and, if not, I agree the best approach is to just cease contact and move on to more receptive quarry. Where most betas get caught up is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:19 AM
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women, as a whole, are more passive (as they are more prone to depression). more attractive/healthy people of both genders are more active, extroverted. That could be part of it. Estrogen is a helluva drug. But for real, we both know that socially the onus is on men to approach. One thing you should consider is that approach also has advantages. You can pick and choose who you want to interact with. If you're sitting there screening applicants you'll have to waste time dealing with a bunch of ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:40 AM
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Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:36 AM
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Dude you just blew my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:40 AM
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Might as well just buy them for 10 camels from their father before they even hit puberty and get it over with. A sensible policy, save for the fact that most women aren't worth 10 camels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:37 AM
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In a real relationship I believe he should. Not speaking for TRP here, just for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:33 AM
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At one time people also thought blacks were worth less than whites because we "are dark." Also the fact that Africans were about a thousand years behind Europeans developmentally, but sure. There are still antiquated cultures that are against gays because "it's not natural." It's not as natural as heterosexuality, that's for sure. Or there'd be more homos than not and the species would struggle to propagate itself. The "slut" idea is beginning to die the same natural death, along with all the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:24 AM
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Why is it that if I did something in the past, I AUTOMATICALLY have to do it in the present/future? You dont. This is another thing BPers frequently frame this discussion as. My point isnt that you have to do anything. Just that if you've decided to stop fucking your husband out of sheer boredom and apathy even though youre capable of mind blowing sex on the regular with all of your exes, he has a right to that information and to decide what to do with it. Its not about forcing anyone to do anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:20 AM
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Theyre not mutually exclusive is what im saying, and in the context of the example im talking about, leaving the past in the past is the equivalent of saying "return to your former blind acceptance of your wife's current frigidity because her sexual history has no relevance to the present." Trying to bury or disregard the past can be detrimental to attempts to improve the present, especially if the past is what proves that future improvement is possible and realistic. Uncovering the past can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:15 AM
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What makes you say that? Most people have a list of things they want in a partner. I mean, most people date other humans, for one thing. Gender is another big deal breaker for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:10 AM
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I've used this exact same argument before. If TRP gets to be all "sexual strategy is amoral", they shouldn't complain when others agree and act accordingly. Either it's all amoral or none of it is. I agree. Its all amoral. I just find that blue pillers tend to be more forgiving of women employing such machiavellian tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:02 AM
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ammassed 40 partners within one year when he was young and does not like casual sex now is a better LTR candidate to me than a guy who chased casual sex for 10+ years. Well of course, its a much harder fucking achievement. I meant that last bit literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:01 AM
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The past is the past, if you want a better future, you have to work for it, because dwelling on the past and complaining gets you nowhere. Those are good platitudes, but I feel my point stands. The past is important because people's trajectories in life matter. If a man was hard working as fuck and then suddenly changes one day and becomes a bum. His wife would rightly feel cheated. If a man is a lazy bum and his wife discovers he was hard working as fuck in each and every one of his previous re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:59 AM
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Question, if partner count is an issue people place a high degree of importance on, and assuming people have the right to decide what they want in a partner. Doesn't that make lying about it all the more evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:37 AM
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Yeah, few possibilities there. 1) All your partners were enlightened egalitarian saints. 2) Some wanted to know but knew better than to just come right out and ask. 3) Some didnt care because they werent interested in commitment (where partner count begins to matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:35 AM
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would we have to slut-shame a guy who was incredibly good-looking and charming and slept with tons of girls, while praising a very plain, out-of-shape girl who managed to sleep with tons of guys? Am I the only one here who actually does this? lel. Although to really make that comparison fair the girl would have to be well and truly hideous. If a 300 lb woman ever managed to net a CEO or actor or whatever I would give props. (Post marriage landwhale transformation doesnt count).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:58 AM
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think they're really hot and the shit Some of it i think is bluster. A woman has to put on like she believes she's empowered, "worth it", special, and deserving of exactly the kind of love/man she wants. Culture, as well as friends, would shame her for NOT acting like she believes that as if realism were doing herself a disservice. Entitled princesses love to spread their entitled world view to other princesses. Its a vicious cycle. A woman cant really peacefully coexist with the idea that she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:56 AM
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Why does it seem like neo-reactionaries fear that the western world is becoming more communist/socialist when in fact there is evidence towards the contrary? What evidence would that be? Sure, people could point to divorce where the woman could take the man's money. But that really isn't communist, because the divorce couple are really on the same level. They aren't even strangers. I could see if the money was going to unrelated women. I'd still call it socialist. It's an attempt to intervene in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:40 AM
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Weird way to frame the question. Dislike for sluts is hardly confined to TRP. Most human cultures have a taboo or shame associated with female promiscuity. The better question is why do most people avoid/dislike sluts. The answer to that is two fold, female competition/mate guarding, and male desire to ensure paternity, both of which result in an instinctive, primate-brain level disdain for promiscuous women. That's why I hate sluts. Biology, and at a more cerebral level, a healthy respect for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:27 AM
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red pill goes on about how women throw themselves at alphas Its actually more like women simply allow themselves to be fucked by a string of alphas. Women are mostly passive in dating/sex. They will throw out IoIs but they rarely try and 'pick up' a guy even if they're interested. At best they'll initiate a conversation and then it's up to the guy to adroitly maneuver this interaction into a seduction. I think this is pretty elementary. Surprised you don't already know it, you don't need to read…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:18 AM
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Dear diary: today a blue piller tried to put me in the friendzone...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:08 PM
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D:<
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:02 PM
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Damn thats a cool subreddit, is it a writing workshop or something? Those guys write really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:01 PM
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Where did I say that??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:56 PM
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Only if larger than my penis. Otherwise, fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:48 PM
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Different cocks, sapphic frolicking with her lesbian besties or getting eaten out by the house eunuch doesnt count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:38 PM
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Indeed. But as my friend little sh1v would like to point out, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:34 PM
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How can we say that one gender is more suited for monogamy than the other? Well the ideal would actually be a return to polygyny and regularly culling 66% of the male population (consistent with investigative genetics showing that only 33% of men have managed to pass along their DNA) but that's something of a tangent. What Im saying isnt that women are less suited for monogamy. Im just making the simple observation that taking lots of cocks makes them less suitable for LTRs. As Ive posted elsewh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:31 PM
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I think they do, because of the simple fact that throughout most of human history, where no MAN steps up to defend and provide, a lot of people die, including all blood relatives. So much for passing on your seed. Men have a dual mating strategy similar to women, some seeds they carefully safeguard, others they just throw way the fuck out there into yon vast sea of sluts hoping at least a few will reach fruition. Key strat if you're a woman is the be a prized wife rather than a mere slave, concu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:15 PM
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I love you too man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:12 PM
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Thank you! Finally a voice of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:11 PM
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Freud also thought all women experienced penis envy, so really, is it more likely that the entire world is obsessed with penises or that Freud was? You taking a remark about it and turning it into an accusation about your sexuality makes you look like you're on the defensive. Good thing this isnt like an MMA fight, then, where being on the defensive would mean being pummeled by some sweaty, muscular dude... what was I saying again? Oh yeah, Im not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:11 PM
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Maybe im just a little more sensitive to social justice issues than your average blue piller? You should really get aware to the plight of minorities around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:31 PM
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Nah up to 6 inches is good. My not so little gift to you. Im feeling magnanimous, must be my Magnum sized dong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:29 PM
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Different biological priorities. A man commits to a familial unit, tribe, what have you to ensure its survival, while opportunistically fucking any available women that happen to meander into his path. His resources are valuable, his seed is not. Conversely, a womans eggs are insanely valuable from a biological standpoint. Pregnancy means automatic 9 month vulnerability and/or death sentence. Sex equals bonding from the female standpoint. Lack of sex = falling out love. Sex with someone else = f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:27 PM
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Thats a good point, we should also ban having a variety of intense sexual experiences with guys other than me (me in a philosophical sense, you understand). Lets not argue over the minor details, the point is, all sex with other cocks involved = bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:23 PM
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Nah, youre being intentionally obtuse. The cocks are only important insofar as they have touched various pussies. Im not gay, but i wouldnt be ashamed of it if I was. Hope that answered your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:18 PM
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Stats dont lie. Women who take more cocks get divorced more often, are less happy with their lot, and are more prone to infidelity. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2010.00819.x/full http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3214800.html The conclusion? Virgin brides are the best for a man looking to avoid having his resources pilfered by an unscrupulous 'reformed' slut or have offspring of questiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:16 PM
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Nah, that was the climax..... so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:08 PM
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This is such a fun topic for me becuase I actually have loved life as a man with a large penis. Why so, if it doesnt do anything for you with the ladies? I call ... if not bullshit, then niggling inconsistency. I've had girls delete my number and all but forget I exist when they meet their new hubby. It's called the Wall. Try them again a few months after the ceremony when their inevitable divorce-rape victory is assured. Because if the argument is that a woman is remembering my penis 3,4,5,6,7 …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:07 PM
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About the ruining women, I think that is a fantasy of a lot of guys, breaking up with a girl and fuck her so good every other guy feels lame. Nah, it's not so much about ruining her for other guys (although I often do that without even meaning to). It's more the feeling of ownership. Mastery. Knowing that the pussy is well and truly yours. The more men a woman has been with, the more variety she has experienced, the less likely she is to be satisfied with the same cock every day (no matter how e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:00 PM
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Fact. Fisting and expert digital penetration is usually more targeted and feels better than a penis. Oh okay thanks for settling that. I didnt know that was a FACT. Which factbook can I look up this fact in? How many additional units of pleasure does a fist provide when compared with a penis, exactly? Another fact is that a woman can never experience a penis and receive orgasms for days. I mean the clitoris isn't even in the vagina. The inner vaginal walls aren't even that sensitive. Who cares? …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:52 PM
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Asl???????? You'd best stay away from cocks just to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:35 PM
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I shall take that as a compliment ser.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:34 PM
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Your homophobic insinuations have been duly noted... And they call us criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:33 PM
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Do you believe RPers are shooting themselves in their feet by chasing sex with lots of women if they want an LTR later? They are 'ruining' these women, aren't they? Every resource gets ruined for others when it is used, and yet, we all use them. By eating a delicious meal and shitting it out I ruin it for the guys who were hoping to taste that delicious meal before it was converted to shit. Yet I still eat and shit while the betas of the world eat shit, by wifing up my used sluts. And what about…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 10:10 AM
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Instead of contempt, pity mixed with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:41 AM
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He's saying you're trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:20 PM
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Why would the respect thing stop me? I don't have to respect a pussy to want to fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:14 PM
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If having power is good, then having power over women is extra good. For me, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:51 PM
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Zero sum game brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 07:32 PM
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Why all this focus on "getting the upper hand" over those womenfolk? Why not? Having power is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:51 PM
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Yeah, you're strawmanning. I didn't say it was popular, Im pointing out your definition of "most of reddit" is inaccurate. Youre saying that "most" of reddit hates TRP based on one post that was upvoted a number of times that is several less orders of magnitude than the total amount of people who use reddit. You're arguing based on your perception of the perceptions of another relatively small group, which I might add, is heavily subject to selection bias, and conflating that with the collective…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:47 PM
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Im going to differ slightly from some of the other RP posters in here. There are times when my male friends, and I myself, will just want to vent about something. I won't pretend this doesn't happen. However, it is... EXCEEDINGLY rare compared to the times when my female friends, previous SOs, spouse, etc. will want to vent emotionally. Basically a man will only want to vent after a significant, troubling event. Something he can't figure out the solution to, or doesn't feel up to solving. Even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:05 PM
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Was it gilded 74 million times? Because if not, not really a basis for claiming what most of reddit believes. Btw, most gilded comment this month was a video of a guy eating bull dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:13 AM
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I see us as more of a Gandhi or Christlike figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:08 AM
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Oops, My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 10:41 PM
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It's a shame this comment isn't higher. Quite insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 10:12 PM
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Most of reddit? Reddit gets 174 million unique visitors a month, show me the anti TRP post with 87 million upvotes. Maybe you meant the majority of really vocal, critical reddit users hell bent on shaming anyone who diverges from the feminist approved narrative on sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 09:55 PM
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Monogamy is an out come based relative equal distribution of wealth. Interesting. How do you think the gradually increasing stratification of wealth throughout most of the world has effected this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:05 PM
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Agree on all fronts. Posts like these are always interesting to me. Much is made of TRP's presumed hate for women, but I think the evo psych sword cuts both way. The only reason there isn't more posts at TRP about the, shall we say, amoral sexual strategies of men is that TRPers have little incentive to study men, being chiefly interested in the pursuit and fucking of women. I'll say it more clearly: men are not inherently morally superior to women. Well, that was too generous -- we're morally s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:51 AM
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Not sure where I stand on this one. I don't see a man having a self improvement focus, going into monk mode, or even going full MGTOW, as necessarily bad. Certainly all are better options than the compliant, never questioning, female pedestalizing beta bux role society tries to force men into. At the same time, sexual strategy is the main component of TRP. The day TRP loses its relevance to getting pussy is the day it has lost all value whatsoever. Getting pussy is the ultimate crucible. It is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 07:33 AM
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Women start with inherent value and have to work hard to lose it. Men start with little or no value and have to work hard to attain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 07:05 AM
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I thank you for linking this. I often wonder what it would be like to try and build men in a more organized, focused fashion than the smattering of self improvement to be found at TRP. The good news is that reading about this org gave me a clear image of what that would entail. The bad news is that I now thoroughly dislike the idea. This organization looks cultish. I dislike the notion of paying dues to participate, even if necessary for maintenance and such. Partly because the secrecy of the gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:58 AM
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They actually have a term for being able to do both at once, it's called tact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:49 PM
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So based on the responses, can we all acknowledge that the OP was completely off base?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:57 AM
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If a wife fails in her wifely duty to provide sex. If she still entitled to a single red cent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:12 PM
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She's not wet. Her body isn't responding. Another person is humping away on top of you. We can use lube and you'll be on top. Anyone's body will respond given sufficient stimulation. Even a rape victims =) Enough with the cop out answers. Where women would actually benefit from duty sex, such as those whose husbands don't put out, they sing a different tune from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:09 PM
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They blame men. Because in a blue pillers mind, when women are unhappy, it is men's fault, and when men are unhappy, it is also mens fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:50 PM
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Do MEN react to this happening to a man with compassion, sympathy, concern for not blaming the victim etc? If not, why? Would anyone fail to assign some measure of culpability to this man for what happened to him, based on his recklessness? If so, why? It really depends. If I know the guy and this was him being naive and unschooled in the ways of the city, and he realized how dumb what he did was and had little chance of repeating his mistake, I would feel more sympathy than consternation. If it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:46 PM
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This is sour grapes. The link between women's suffrage / poliical participation by women in the early 20th century and prohibition is well understood to be causal and not merely correlative. http://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?a=347
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:48 AM
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And re: the second part of my statement above, when I say people, I mean other women...because the primary audience I'm concerned with is other women. Heh, see this is what I'm talking about right here. Women are engaged in this constant arms race to look the best, why? Self-expression? All they're expressing is "Look at me, look at me all you alpha males! Aren't I pretty, wouldn't you want to fuck me? OMG you so would." Whether they acknowledge this to themselves or not. Then all the females in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:02 AM
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I see it as kind of an empowering tool for guys who are just starting to perceive the difference between a passionate relationship with a woman who is infatuated with you, and well, lack of that. It's worth questioning whether a woman is giving you her all in a relationship. I know BPers don't believe that this actually happens, but many women get into subpar relationships or just, for whatever dumb entitled reason, don't value whoever they're with as much as they ought to. It's called settling,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:39 AM
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Women crave male attention, but are scared of being slut shamed by other women, so they hamster it as a fun thing they do for "yourself", having nothing to do with men. Probably, for a lot of young girls and shit they throw on make up for fun, but by the time you're an adult and enjoying the night life, to continue to feign ignorance is just disingenuous. You may tell yourself you're doing it for "fun" or to "be confident", but what is the source of that fun/confidence? Being checked out. Being …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:29 AM
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I'm not selling to the masses. If a man doesn't have a sort of internal compass that senses the wrongness of a marriage arrangement wherein a woman has the power to strip him of half his resources on a whim, but yet he can't get sex except when and how she dictates. Then there's no sense in me trying to reach him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:13 AM
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More like fighting fire with fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:11 AM
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If sex differences are enough to make my analysis "projection", then variation within the female gender itself is enough to make your analysis also a projection. Take a gander at yon deadbedrooms subreddit - there are plenty of women making the same arguments I'm making, but applied to men. "Women are just different sexually and can't be expected to maintain their sexual side in an LTR because, women are just like that" would not hold up as an argument there. I don't see you as authoritative eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:05 PM
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Not understand? More like I don't accept the reasoning. I think sex can be pleasurable as well as a duty, just like most activities in life. Just because I have a duty to provide, protect and care for my family doesn't mean I suddenly start seeing it as some bothersome chore. Just because I have a duty to go to work each day doesn't mean I can't be passionate about my work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:50 PM
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seems like women who can't get men to commit (presumably because they are lower quality, less attractive) are more emotionally wrecked/unstable and frequently 'test' their partners. Alternate theory: the inability of some women to get men to commit has less to do with the SMV of the women in question, than their level of hypergamy / willingness to have casual sex. A 7 chasing alphas and "bad boys" and having ONSes left and right would have a much harder time acquiring commitment, than a 4 who se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:58 PM
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How many men on this thread would be preaching your sermon if sex for them was always about just getting her off and maybe maybe once in a blue moon he'll bust a nut. Let's not also forget the penetrative nature of sex and the lack of control woman have during the act over securing their own pleasure. First of all, even if that was the case, I would still be DTF each night. Don't believe me? Hop on the bed there and we can get started. =] There's so much about sex I enjoy. The expression of powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:39 PM
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If feminists are allowed to dilute the meaning of rape, then so am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:24 PM
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If it's the aforementioned then I find your OP disingenuous. If she's not rearing children then my OP is what...? Justified? Just curious. The exchange is providership for homemaking/ child rearing. I could buy a housekeeper for that. Marriage is about shared resources, sure. But it's also about sex. Who you're agreeing to not have it with, and who you're agreeing to have it with. Hence the importance of consummation, conjugal rights, paternity, monogamy. Sex is something two adults do together …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:23 PM
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No, this is a real problem. My ex specialised in middle of the night threats to make me homeless- particularly in winter. And I live in Canada. Did you try calling the police and telling them what went down? Social services? Any shelter for women? I eventually escaped, much to his frustration, but coordinating this was a lot harder than "just throw myself at welfare!" I'm not going to make assumptions about your story, but without more info, I can't take this line seriously at all. There are ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:02 PM
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I absolutely think both parties have a duty to provide sex for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:00 PM
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I like to go by Maslow's heirarchy of needs as a shorthand. My point here is simply that, to whatever extent denying a woman money is abuse, so too is denying a man sex while in a monogamous relationship. Personally? I don't agree that financial abuse is abuse, and I don't actually think denying a man sex is abuse. They are both, perhaps, shitty things to do to your SO, but not abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:57 PM
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They may not die of starvation without their husband, but their lives certainly take an enormous blow when the money is gone. Thank you for actually acknowledging this. Most BPers are acting like it's still possible for a man to cause a woman to starve to death in a modernized country. If it was, we all probably wouldn't need to be having this conversation right now. I think the man's life takes an enormous blow when his woman decides she isn't going to fuck him good and frequently like she used…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:53 PM
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Giving you an allowance and closely watching what you buy. Sounds like what women do parceling out barely enough sex to keep their men from leaving and then closely watching their interactions with other women. Forbidding you to work or limiting the hours you do. Sounds like what women do forbidding you from getting sex other than with them and then limiting the hours you can even do that. Refusing to give you money, food, rent, medicine or clothing. Sounds like what women do in refusing to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:51 PM
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Because this is a very classic sign of an abuser. It makes you completely dependent on them for food, shelter, clothing. It's part of the isolationary tactics that abusers engage in. In that case, any woman who ever married a man with the expectation of monogamy, and then turns him down for sex, is an abuser. Because you're completely dependent on her for sex. If denying a wife money is isolationary, then denying a husband sex is doubly fucking isolationary. A woman can go around to friends, fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:46 PM
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Well for one, if you weren't in court I'm pretty sure you could say this. You could easily say that you didn't feel like giving your wife money to do something. It wouldn't be abusive given you had a reason and it wasn't simply to control your wife's actions. No, you couldn't. At least you couldn't say that and have anyone, anywhere, take it seriously. Be realistic for a second here. If you had plenty of money sitting around, and your wife needed some, and it was really important to her, and a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:37 PM
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It would be funny watching the blue pill male's need to always empathize with the female clash with his hatred of all things red.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:25 PM
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0-5 cocks 5 whole cocks? I'd put her filthy used ass out on the street before she even finished confessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:23 PM
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I've read parts of that book too. A little spiritual/metaphysical for my tastes, but I agree with the premise. Well, somewhat. I think the interpretation of masculine there is heavily influenced by modernity, which is itself somewhat feminized. Mastery, lordship, ownership, these are also masculine traits, but necessarily de emphasized in that book's analysis because modern Western mores prevent us from exercising them fully. The masculine and feminine are dark, occasionally brutal. To spiritual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:39 AM
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And I think a man who provides, deserves to have his own needs attended to, should he so wish. I'd like to civilly agree to disagree at this point. I doubt we get much more productive out of each other, though I appreciate your candor thusfar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:23 AM
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If it's being done to manipulate the partner or harm them, then yes it's abuse. But if you're not attracted to them or you just don't want sex for some reason then of course it's not abuse. Ok. Interesting. So morality arising from motive. Problem is that "justification" doesn't work for men. "I just don't want to give her any of my money for some reason" - no one would ever accept this rationale from a man. He would be laughed out of family court, or counseling or wherever it was he was trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:18 AM
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Ok. Thanks for the answers. I still think that if him being forced to provide, by the state, is wrong. Neither of you should feel obligated to continue giving money/sex to the other, or perhaps... both should. That's just what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:10 AM
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Ok, sure. Reasonable enough. You'd be sure to provide him with sex during those 6 months as well, correct? Because he gave up screwing and dating other women to be with you, and it's going to a minute for him to get back into the dating pool if you two decided it didn't work out. And because his needs are important, just as yours are important. Right? (Kudos to you if you actually answer yes to that)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:36 AM
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Would you be happy if she begrudgingly had sex with you? My happiness would be at like a 3 or 4. Not at "I see this as abuse" levels. To extend the comparison, a woman whose husband threw money at her begrudgingly so she could go shopping might not feel happy per se, but she would have little grounds to complain of abuse (not that that has ever stopped any of you). The comparison I'm making, though, has to do with abuse. I personally feel that the concept of financial abuse does not make sense u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:28 AM
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Yes. I understand all this. I get this position. I just don't understand why "if your needs aren't met, leave" stops being the solution when the problem stops being a male one. Why are women who complain of "financial abuse" not told to simply pick up and leave and learn to fend for themselves in the harsh, cold world in which we live? Why is it abuse when their needs aren't met? Why is a woman allowed to rape a man's wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:16 AM
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Huh. A rare breed: a woman I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:12 AM
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By controlling access to money, you can create a situation that leaves your partner totally dependent on you, for their survival. Nah, I don't think that's actually possible. At least not in a country with basic social services. You could always divorce and get it (the money) elsewhere, yes? That's what blue pillers are always saying about sex. If your comment was about Afghanistan or some other hell hole, my apologies. Edit: another question. If your logic is just about survival and not happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:46 AM
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Using that power to limit your partner's ability to live their life to a reasonable standard (that being having basic needs met and the like,) or to prevent them leaving the relationship when they want to, could potentially be abusive. Like when a man gets trapped in a marriage where his hot, formerly DTF girlfriend turns into a frigid, once a month starfish, and can't get out without suffering huge financial penalties... right? NAY, cry all the blue pillers. That's completely different! A man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:39 AM
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Any sex sans commitment and you're basically done. No man likes knowing that he's having to woo, commit, etc. just to get access to the same pussy, throat and ass that other men were getting for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:24 AM
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my thoughts are that you should summarize it for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 06:19 AM
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Strategic effectiveness: confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:33 PM
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You've posted 4 angry one line responses to me in one day, wow. Stay mad, brah. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:32 PM
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If marital rape were legal or mandatory, it would work both ways. That means it would be ok for your wife to drug you, or overpower you and then do whatever she wanted to you. It would be worse if she didn't care if she did something that hurt you. That depends on the phrasing of the law, but really, in any sort of rape arms race, I would come out on top. So to speak. You sound like a man who needs a woman to verbally kick his ass and put him in his place. And this hypothetical amazon sounds lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:31 PM
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Who decides what is or isn't feminist? This is a problem hardly unique to TRP, pal. Sorry if that triggers your OCD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:59 PM
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This post itself was useful. Thanks. I often notice people getting increasingly argumentative in "idea exchange" posts and now I can really articulate why I don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:47 PM
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And then there are the haters. The ones who use anger and hate and violence to terrorize others. It's not entropy. It's not the Void. It's not yin. It's a manmade construct. In order to maintain a state of hate and anger you have to constantly feed it new material, new sacrifices, new victims, new fuel. It's the neuro-emotional equivalent to burning coal to keep the body and mind alive (instead of clean, pure solar energy.. or love energy). To keep the hate going you have to keep finding new peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:43 PM
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Agree to disagree. If anything, one should stone the painted whores themselves. Not stone the messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:40 PM
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I'm open to alternatives, but rape seems like the most sensible policy from where I'm standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:30 PM
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But that's not true. You have a very flawed understanding of history and anthropology. Hunter-gatherer societies were fairly egalitarian and gender roles weren't really enforced until agriculture came into the picture. Whats your basis for this view? Give me your arguments, I'll give you my objections. The only time I can safely assume "Institutionalized rape" ever occurred was during war times and that's because women were seen as the upholders of society. You take their women, you win. I can t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:19 PM
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I've nothing to add. I think your behavior speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:38 PM
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Could be. Again, not sure what the point is though. Is saying "men need women more" somehow an argument against TRP? The biological inherent value of women vs the expendability and lack of inherent value of men is well understood at TRP. If you remove the ability of men to work, fight, invent, etc as the OP did here then the balance of power definitely comes out in women's favor. Fortunately, in real life, the ability of a man to improve his value through, say, helping to build, maintain and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:24 PM
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Yes they do: neckbearded losers on the Internet who are pissed off that society doesn't revolve around their insecurities. "Neckbeard losers". Says the guy complaining about my usage of stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:19 PM
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I'm merely suggesting that elsewhere you may find yourself confronted with a public outing of what you yourself have said. I notice the shift to passive language there. I guess you're not comfortable thinking of yourself as an aggressor. If you want to sit here and talk about what you're going to do, own it. Devolving into semantics to avoid taking responsibility is just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:17 PM
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Indeed. Nothing wrong with a touch of violence to harden a man up. Rites of passage and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:07 PM
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On some level you realize that the very fact of me posting what I posted means I could give a shit less about being shamed on the Internet. But by all means, continue with the impotent threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:30 PM
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You WISH you were black.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:16 PM
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Also depends on who you are around. A lot of respected men may have a low partner count. Reluctantly agree. A man can be alpha as fuck and settle down early with a high value, low partner count beauty. more accurate way to phrase this would be a mans potential to fuck a lot of hot chicks is a direct indicator of his value. He doesn't have to exercise that potential, but just knowing he could fuck practically whomever he likes is Both a reflection and key part of his power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:52 PM
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A harsh truth: you can't. You can never be 100% sure that nice, tight pussy you're plowing every night hasn't been despoiled by a thousand alphas. Elasticity and all that. There are some methods you can use to increase your chances. Pretend to be a believer in female sexual empowerment and similar tripe. Even challenge her to "prove" how wild she is/was. All the while you're coldly tallying every confidence, every secret revealed. Analyze her girlfriends and how they behave sexually. Demographic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:19 PM
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I think I'd have to agree. Women seem capable of entering this kind of hibernation state where they are content not having a relationship at all. A single man is always thirsting for pussy. Unless he just got out of a very shitty relationship. Not sure what all this changes, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:10 PM
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How would you suggest I do that? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:05 PM
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Just telling it like it is brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:04 PM
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Good call, I completely forgot to mention beating. Another historically revered tool for cultivating respect in an unruly wife. "If you are going to your woman, bring a whip."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:04 PM
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You aint seen nothing yet!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:02 PM
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Dead serious. See lords right to the first night, war brides, forced marriage. Institutionalized rape and women having the status of property has been the norm for most of human history. A man attains rights to a woman, then fucks her whenever and however he wants. She acclimates herself to that role. Sadly, modern man's attempt to give women their freedom has led to a vicious backlash. Women aren't hard wired to respect men as equals. They only truly respect superiority, mastery. Hence hypergam…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:59 AM
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I'm trembling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:29 AM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 10:15 PM
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Vasalgel. It might just save Western Civilization. That should be their first ad campaign.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 09:46 PM
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Most women on it are on it "for fun." At least most young women. Woah! Brain blast. Just got inspiration for an essay on the innate female proclivity to engage in merciless cockteasing and orbiter baiting under the guise of "fun". Probably an evolutionary mechanism for young women to cut their teeth and develop their deception/manipulation/sadism muscles by practicing on clueless betas who they'd never actually condescend to mate with. Thanks for that eye opening post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:38 PM
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Do Americans subconsciously pick between AFBB? I wouldn't quite use those exact categories. Anyone heard of the "mommy problem?" When Americans want comfort and shelter from hard times, they vote Democract, when they want firm leadership and a chance to excel (as provided by a dad), they vote Republican. I think this has been playing out on a national level recently - the Democratic message just isn't resonating with voters right now, because it's focusing on uplifting the lowest among us, when …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:26 PM
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Your only evidence for this is you own bias. The OP asked what I think so I answered. What are you even responding to me for again? You sound like a harry potter villain Oh right. To troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:26 PM
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Nah, it's a practical one. I think female dominant relationships contain the seeds of their own destruction. I guess it would be more accurate to say I reject the premise of the OP. Blood will always tell, and no matter how sublimated or unconscious, the inherent female disdain for weak men will make itself felt. Also, I wasn't speaking for TRP itself. OP was "what do YOU think" not what TRP has to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:35 PM
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Re-read the last paragraph. The OP is drawing a comparison to TRPers supposedly cherry picking from among female confession posts to prove TRP, and blue pillers cherry picking TRP posts that confirm their opinion of us. It's a weak argument for a number of reasons; the fact that the accusation of cherry picking directed at TRP can easily be deflected is but one of them. The op's attempt to create a direct equivalency is also inherently a double edged sword; even if one accepts that TBP's example…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:30 PM
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Indeed. It's not just an awareness thing though. To play the numbers game in dating requires a certain... fortitude. To suffer 10 or 20 rejections should be viewed as nothing, simply part of putting in the work to find a suitably receptive, and desirable female. Incels tend to have an enormous fear of rejection and that's what holds them back from truly using people like the interchangeable pieces of meat we all are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:30 PM
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What reason would there ever be (evolutionarily) for a man to have wife goggles once the children are grown up and the woman can't have children? For one thing, the concept of wife goggles doesn't always hold true. YOu have commented that "we all know men continue to love their wives" but they don't, always. Sometimes they fuck the hot secretary and sometimes, there's nothing the wife could have done about that. That's an ugly truth that both RP and BP, including you, need to accept. A lot of ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:45 AM
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Try to follow the logic here: i did not choose which comments are being upvoted and that the more upvoted the comments are, the more relevant they are and finally, the most upvoted comments all confirm TRP. So no, I did not do any cherry picking; I did not have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:12 AM
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Tell us why the person who would crack the problem of cold fusion not come from the army of females who had access to education and learning thanks to pervasive feminism? The army of females would realize that armies are themselves, patriarchal structures and thus commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:11 AM
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Cherry picking or not? Top rated comment in that snapshot: lust for authority figures. 2nd: lust for dirty addicts. 3rd: lust for authority figures. 4th: lust for emotionally distant men + daddy issues. If anyones cherry picking, its the women up voting the posts about dominant men and rebels who'd "probably give me diseases." Im sorry that their preferences upset you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:02 AM
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I totally reject that premise. I respect your right to an opinion. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:57 AM
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Would any of you actually want to go back to the times when marital rape was legal? I'd take it a step further and make it not only legal, but mandatory. It seems to me that most women would benefit from a good hard raping or three, just to establish in their minds who the dominant party is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:56 AM
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Because those are the two traits missing among blue pill men and blue pill women, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:48 AM
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If a man is happy being in a relationship with a dominant woman and find sexual and emotional fulfillment in being of service to her, is there really anything wrong with that? Sure there is, the genders are in the wrong places.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:47 AM
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Source? Look up the historical definition of master and slave. A look at dominance and submission in sex prior to this century would also be informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:40 AM
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1) why are there only 4 kinds of people: beta male, alpha male, hypergamous AWALT, or young virgin females who have been domesticated by an alpha, before they can irreversibly become hypergamous sluts? Nature. 2) why are men able to decide on/migrate their type on their own efforts and women cannot? Why is the female's migration permanent when males can transition between their two types? See the answer to #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:34 AM
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women want men to treat them with respect as fellow human beings. that is not a romantic quality, that is a social quality. women want men who they're romantically interested in a certain way because we have certain tastes. We already know this, it's called alpha fucks beta bucks and is one of the most insidious and destructive double standards in the female arsenal I find it telling that the justification boils down to "the way I tell whipped betas how to act vs the way I love for the men I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:14 AM
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The same reason women will fuck enthusiastically at the start of a relationship, but later taper off and decide they "aren't happy" and need to "rediscover" themselves. I think that initial surge of bonding chemicals/hormones can be reproduced artificially. This might supplement or even supplant the need for dread game and other mind games for maintaining an LTR. Putting a woman in a hysterical bonding frame of mind is really only useful insofar as the chemicals it floods her brain with. Cutting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:32 AM
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Is basing your arguments on nothing more than a study's abstract anti-intellectual? You're a mind reader now? I read parts of the study. My argument is about a person's knee jerk reaction to that study being posted. I shouldn't have to prove that to you just to earn the right to take notice of other people making low effort one liners attempting to pass them off as incisive criticism. You're just eager to cling on to something that panders to your own bias. You're just eager to talk shit. We can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:55 AM
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Fuck all this tip toeing around dudes. Can some blue piller answer this question for me point blank: IF you are with a woman, she has only had intermittent vanilla sex with you after a long waiting period, and later you come to find she had frequent, enthusiastic, wild and kinky sex with her ex. And yet she still insists she loves and cares for you and is attracted to you. How the fuck do you not call BS on that? How do you not leave, and pursue someone else whose actions in and out of bed will …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:34 AM
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About how some social studies may be unscientific. If you are a skeptic of sociology itself, that's fine, but the point of the study was not to dismiss an entire field, just to examine a bias in that field and its possible effects. Leaping to the conclusion that the study undermines the whole of social science and therefore itself, is just a lazy man's way of justifying himself not reading/rebutting it. I now give the floor to my colleague from the jungle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 08:23 AM
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Dont think i havent thought about it. Your homophobia is duly noted though :p
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:43 AM
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Random: I think it's hilarious that Stedman has reached one-name status by pure association to Oprah. I didn't know who he was before you brought it up, if that makes you feel any better. "Oh how I wish I could be provided for for by a woman... The life!" But they never continue on with that statement and volunteer their services for primarily homemaking and childrearing. Men who are dismissive of homemaking and childrearing are talking out of their asses. I am married and spend a considerable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:38 AM
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If you accept that reasoning then you already did find his social study compelling. Kind of a paradox there. Also, he didn't say every such study was non-scientific. Not All Studies Are Like That.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:28 AM
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If you honestly believe downvotes matter, you should concern yourself with the flood of women downvoting the profiles of 90% of the men they encounter because -- what was it again? Oh yeah, they have so much respect for the subtle personal factors that comprise male attractiveness that they just have choice but to disregard the entire purpose of a rating system, and rate us as Hunchback of Notre dame, igor-looking motherfuckers. Women: so deep and unconcerned with appearances, that they can't he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:25 AM
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Is dismissing a study in the manner you just did not itself an example of anti-intellectualism? Why not point to the specific aspects of the study you disagree with rather than dismissing it without an apparent reason other than it agrees with what some of your opponents believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:15 AM
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Political diversity does not equate to having equal numbers of liberals and conservatives. This is also an example of circular reasoning. You think having liberal bias in the social sciences is splendid because of all the liberal solutions devised by liberal social scientists, who are there because of the liberal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:12 AM
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I would probably choose to live in this world. Its values happen to align with my own, albeit, the fact that it's apparently run by force/extreme social engineering is unsettling to me. Reason is largely because I think a society with this powerful of an engine to drive beta male investment/productivity would quickly become a technological, intellectual and industrial utopia. Sexuality is one of the primary motivators and, when harnessed properly, it can be a tremendous force for good. I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 07:09 AM
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Do you ever wonder if your opposition to TRP stems from a desire to maintain your harem of compliant, docile, orbiting, beta bux "fans"? Like, if they were to accept TRP, would they not become disillusioned with their way of life, and seek actual sex, rather than continuing to engage in this mass cuckoldry fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:46 AM
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I think rewriting rape laws to include presumption of guilt against male suspects, which is already slowly happening, will be the final nail in the coffin for what we'd consider to be normalcy in intersexual relations. Rape hysteria is the tool by which feminists intend to turn sex into the ultimate weapon against men. If you want access to sex, of which women are the gatekeepers, you must become her slave, lest she destroy you on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:41 AM
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this sounds to me like marital satisfaction wasn't all that affected by a husband's attractiveness, not that women don't know what they want. I think the OP's point can't be dismissed so easily. Attractiveness is linked to value, as is happiness. If we pursue things that we find attractive only to find that they bring us no value, satisfaction, happiness, etc. then the entire process of attraction has not really fulfilled its function. I think there are traits women find attractive -- height, ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:27 AM
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I can think of a few reasons offhand. 1) Good earning capacity != desire to work hard to fulfill that capacity. Women can afford to fritter away their time, pursuing whatever degree or career makes them feel good regardless of its earning potential, fucking everything in sight without worrying about commitment until the 11th hour, etc. They know they have a safety net thx to pussy. 2) Instinctive need to seek out beta male provisioning after imbibing alpha cocks whether actually logically requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:14 AM
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As if that is the only explanation. This may also "suggest the strange possibility" that female attraction increases with increasing knowledge of the personality inside the body, thus making women rate strangers as less attractive before they get to know them. Lol, so women are principled and totally not shallow -- THAT'S why they have to rate 95% of men they encounter as being having subhuman levels of attractiveness! To leave room for an increase in attractiveness when they get to know the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 06:06 AM
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A couple times, when shit was really tough, I took a step back mentally and asked myself "Am I going to care about this moment in 10 years? Does this really affect my life significantly? Will I still be sad about this next year?" The answer is almost always no. If you believe that you won't really be affected by this event in 10 years, how important is it really? Thanks. This is the kind of thing I was looking for. I'm looking for techniques for controlling my emotions, and I'm going to be tryin…
/r/askTRP15/12/14 10:40 AM
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Would you prefer your country be defended by conscripts or have it be the worlds bitch? is more the point I was making. If a real war involving the worlds major powers ever happens again, we will all be thanking god we did not give way to cowardice and decadence and throw out the system devised to help us survive that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:45 AM
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The idea of forcing women to war is unconscionable to most people, when you combine with that the idea of gender equality you create a scenario where people are saying things you're saying "we should not draft ANYONE!" The draft is a legacy of a time where nations were mortal enemies and real wars were fought (not talking about invading a third world country for oil). It strikes me as unwise to shit all over the structures our ancestors devised to save our mollycoddled asses when shit genuinely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:06 AM
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Thank you for the detailed response!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 08:02 AM
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Since you didnt address all the line items ill just extrapolate from the two you answered: women who do these things dont exist, and anyway, when they do exist its just mens fault for feeling like they are entitled to more. Probably just unsavory TRP types filtering everything through their woman hating lens, clearly, no woman would ever do these things TRP accuses them of! Thanks for the input. Anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 11:13 AM
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why do red pillers encourage hiding in the shadows? Why does Batman wear a mask?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:42 AM
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In the same way, redpillers are just men who cannot achieve the success of alpha males but celebrate them. There are faux alphas who pay lip service to them like the 3 R's Rollo, Roissy, Roosh or posters like gaylube, but real alphas don't really give a shit about these so called redpillers or probably don't even know about their existence. If they did, they would think they're pathetic. Interesting argument. However it's much more possible for a man to elevate his attractiveness than a woman. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 05:36 AM
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But there's no guarantee that he'll succeed financially given the economy. There's no guarantee that he'll achieve peak physical form given genetics or discipline. There's not guarantee he'll achieve intellectual or creative peak given his motivation or genetics again. And even if he does achieve alpha or near alpha status, he would still be in competition with multitudes of alpha. And he's competing with a pool of women who in the present are fucking men left, centre, and right anyway. There's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 11:13 AM
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However it is just a feeling - this is actually not biologically necessary at all and it is actually not efficient. Then why does the feeling exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:13 AM
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Ok. Thanks for the assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:41 PM
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They dont. That's why we generally dont write about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:33 PM
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Flair added, remove the second part of the title after the dash if you must. I think clumsy is undeniable here, if you compare to what's being said in other news outlets on this story. That whatever lies or shall we say, lapses in journalistic integrity occured here were in service to feminist objectives is also fairly obvious, imo. But to each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:31 PM
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LOL thats too perfect. And Rolling stone continues to fall onto the sword saying "it's all our fault! The woman is blameless!" They're in a shitty spot. They put the blame on her, feminists criticize them for HURTING A BRAEV RAPE SURVIVOR EVEN MORE, OMG. Despite the fact that her story is probably BS. The best case scenario for them is to just eat the massive credibility hit and say as little as possible about anyone else. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:21 PM
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You certainly paint a pretty picture, but forgot to mention a few things: A large underclass of slaves and temple prostitutes that men can freely use for their pleasure. Crushing poverty to eliminate undesirables, notably women who think they can fuck and breed as they will, producing bastard spawn and having others take care of the whole mess. Also, I don't think a straight reversal of feminism is necessarily for the best, as there's clear reasons it arose in the first place. One must needs add…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:10 AM
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Thanks for that tidbit. You removed my last vestige of doubt. Everything boils down to sex whether people admit it or not. In all seriousness, there have been asexual badasses. This i do not deny. I just see them as not particularly relevant because they are undoubtedly outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:17 AM
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it means that at some point, a little scrawny intellectual guy who needed to feel good about being swirlied by the jocks on the football team came up with this "clever" quote to feel better about his wounded ego. jerking off over his own supposed superiority for being frail, virginal, androgynous, and too lazy to lift heavy objects like the "lesser" beings around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:15 AM
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I'd sympathize, but then, he probably went on to bang one of the next half dozen "first dates" he had lined up that week. Man was looking for a woman who was down for quick no nonsense fucking. He didn't waste your time, you didn't waste his. This was a story with a happy ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:31 AM
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Huh. My calculator's showing 100.0001532%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:41 AM
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What would you say the primary motivators of men are-- then, and today?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:30 AM
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The two most feminized races. Sorry mates, it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:15 AM
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How hot is the side chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:14 AM
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There's a thin line between learning what you might have done better, and beating yourself up and taking all the blame for someone else's dumbass move. I mean, we learned never to let the holocaust happen again, but that doesn't mean it was our fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:13 AM
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I read some stuff on it while it was all the rage. But learned nothing new. Sluts gonna slut. White knights gonna knight. The ex-bf was honestly a bitch for airing out all that dirty laundry in public. All he did was reveal himself to be a cuckold and gain the contempt of the female gender. The best revenge is to live well ie, improve self and fuck hotter, better women. There's a few articles he could benefit from in our sidebar. Taking a wider view, I was surprised at the stirrings of grassroot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:09 AM
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Trying to divide the entire spectrum of human beliefs into two categories, liberal and conservative, results in massive information loss. This article should give a taste of the actual richness, depth and variation of US culture. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in/ Another note. If you went back to Stalinist russia and made a list of the most Bolshevik cities in the country, they would all be the wealthiest, most cultured, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:58 AM
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I think civilization arose for similar reasons as other memetic viruses. Because it could. Civilization is self sustaining, adaptive, able to replicate itself, and confers advantages vs less civilized tribes. No reason for it not to take over. What the poster is referring to, I believe, is the idea that the chief motivation for men to participate in the activities that sustain, preserve and expand civilization -- that is, building, working hard, striving to earn prestige, and fighting/cooperatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:41 AM
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Previously known as r/rape. ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:10 PM
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It sure means i am! Most women are undeserving of orgasms anyway. On a serious note, i think the two are at least a tad bit related.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 01:32 PM
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Desperation. Curiosity. Anger. A fascination with the forbidden, the hated. People reserve hate for things they view as genuinely dangerous/effective, weak BP protestations aside. The fact that trying novel approaches is fun and revealing. It really doesn't matter why you go red pill. What matters is how you apply it and the results you get. Self improvement, keen observation, ruthlessness (even and especially to yourself), a willingness to play dirty, place yourself first in all things, and tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:52 AM
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Is this a rhetorical question or would you like a genuine answer? Age, background, a generation gap, the fact that society has moved on leaving trad-con ideals the exception rather than the norm, giving rise to a host of new difficulties which must be interpreted through the lens of "old" ideas. The new legal, cultural, economic framework undergirding dating/marriage leaving them both completely alien institutions from what trad-cons knew in their heyday. The fact that conservatism and tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:36 AM
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we've all been there. enjoy the silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:14 AM
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Haha, he is guilty of the "crime" of giving out sound counsel amid a sea of morons trying to redefine everything and anything as rape. Every quote of his on that petition is solid strategic advice for dealing with LMR. If the civil service of a few countries want to metaphorically castrate themselves yet again in an attempt to appease the hordes of SJWs at the gates, let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 04:54 AM
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I dont think youre missing anything at all. Human interactions, societies and movements are complex. It is folly to think the interests of men and women, in a sexual sense, will ever align completely. Having said that, I think speaking of RP men and women makes the most sense when speaking of those looking for gender-traditional relationships. So we can exclude the gleeful slut-fucking cads from this equation. But even when looking back at marriage of old, things did not align perfectly. They ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:49 AM
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I don't quite agree -- your views are a little moderate for my tastes -- but overall, much more sensible policies than the ones currently in place. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:41 AM
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I think it's pretty cute that you assume if someone's not into RP that they are all about the political correctness. Fair assumption to make imo. Most of the criticisms I see against TRP involve its failure to hew to PCness. Not many people criticizing TRP for simply coming to the wrong politically-correct conclusion and then stating their own. My least political correct beliefs are probably the childfree ones. I'd like the government to start giving out incentives for not overpopulating. Nice. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:40 AM
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I've never understood the way the term "political correctness" gets used. In the quote above, I don't see what any of it has to do with "politics" or the idea that you have to be careful or sensitive to what you say. The statements are all just factually true, there's no need for opinion or spin to be put on it. All the above statements are theories. If you think such nebulous social concepts as privilege and oppression are even able to proved as scientific fact in the same manner as like, the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:33 AM
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Then why are the same things said on the blogs of the male TRP 'thought leaders' that you guys look up to? Are they all angry men without much of a clue, too? Why do you ask questions based on patently false assumptions? Oh right, to troll. TRP thoughts have already been developed, polished and laid out for you over centuries. Go to countries where women are often treated as sub-human. All TRP is doing is following along on their coat tails. TRP has nothing new to offer. Interesting way to chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:18 AM
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Heh, I disagree with the premise. Why assume a guaranteed income when you can simply let people starve? It's not at all clear that a flat guaranteed income will be the consequence of automation. Mass extinction among non elites is another clear possibility, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:15 AM
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No dodge here. Have an up vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:38 PM
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It's also very easy to cast oneself in the role of 'independent thinker' and everyone who disagrees with you in the roles of 'sheep'. It isn't only RP that does this, FWIW I think huge portions of humanity are prone to it. I agree, but that doesn't negate what I said. In terms of debate, and thinking in general, it's much easier to go with the establishment. In terms of assuaging one's ego, it's easy to fall into the trap of believing that being in the minority automatically equals superiority. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 08:31 PM
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Depends on how you define choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:31 PM
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Has TRP transformed into merely a hate group? Here is my theory. I think the fact that non politically correct statements can be expressed openly at TRP is somewhat refreshing. BP society has this laser like focus on making sure anything upsetting to anyone's feelings cannot be said openly because its "bigotry". I think all the upvotes you're seeing are more in appreciation for the blunt speech of the users in question, and willingness to criticize females/Muslims/whoever while the rest of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:18 PM
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Sure why not? I think its a good idea for a woman's virginity, and sexuality in general, to be in the possession of someone more inclined towards good sound rational judgement, ie, a male, ideally a male with some form of paternal goodwill and investment in said female. The more formalized this concept is in law and culture, the more likely the culture is to be an effective one, imo. One need only look how Muslims, despite their flaws and general backwardness, are slowly taking over Europe, to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:10 PM
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Actually TRP advocates continuing to interact with, and fuck women. MGTOWs judge these behaviors to be more trouble than they're worth. Hence the division between the two communities. Keep trolling tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 06:02 PM
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Could well be part of the problem. Though one can't discount the notion that cads and sluts bestow their wild, promiscuous genes unto their progeny, just as they bestow shitty childhoods. I won't say it's all biology, but I do love to throw a little curveball in that too-convenient blue pill idea that "everything we don't like happens because people are socialized the wrong way."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:50 AM
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Women and pussies get worn out with use. You wouldnt want to use someones old worn out toothbrush would you? You'd be thinking about all the other shit people did with that toothbrush. Use it and not wash it afterward. brush the hell out of it and wear it out. Maybe even scrub their toilet rim with it who the fuck knows? Similarly, you wouldnt go to the pet store and say "you know what, fuck bonding with a new cat, I want the cat that had a billion other owners before me. Because clearly, the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:42 AM
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Up here in Canada, things like birth control sabotage are sexual assault. So how many women do you have in prison for "accidentally" forgetting to take their pill, zero? Negative one? We all know how broadening the definition of sexual assault plays out in practice: more men in jail because "she said" won out over "he said."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:36 AM
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Probably because the way in which colleges currently handle sexual assault internally is heavily biased in favor of accusers, ie, women. A man's education and prospects can be shattered on the basis of an unproved allegation, and feminists would have it no other way. In fact, they want to be even more extreme. Yes means yes laws and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:32 AM
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Good point. Probably simple wanderlust, a desire to sow one's seed in as many viable wombs as possible. Being tied down early runs contrary to that desire to just run rampant, fucking and impregnating everything in sight. If that sounds overly simplistic, it's because that's what male desire is. When you combine darker impulses with immaturity and the belief (mistaken or not) that one can indulge them and "get away with it", bad shit happens. The exchange upon which society was more or less buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:24 AM
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The solution is simple, but no one here (or anywhere) is going to like it... More male deaths. If only about 40% of men survive to spread their seed, every other problem sorts itself out. That's it. That's all there really is to it. If you look at our genetic heritage, that's the ratio of men that ever managed to breed. I'd argue that this was largely because men were busy killing each other, dying in war, going off on campaign or exploration, being massacred by huge roving armies while women/ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:08 AM
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We need to examine why male lives are treated as disposable. Both for minority males who get shot by police for no reason (yeah it does happen) and for the police officers who risk their lives daily only to have their right to defend themselves called into question. I'm no MRA though. There should be more men dying in the US and worldwide, but for glory, wealth, and great causes. A certain unity of male spirit and good natured sportsmanship about fighting each to the death is what is needed. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:45 AM
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My question is, would rp tactics like negging, dread game, amused mastery and all that work on someone who was aware of them and aware they were being gamed? Or do they only work on those who are ignorant of them? It all depends on the victim in question. Some guileless ingenues are simply ripe for the fucking over, while a veteran slut has all kinds of in-built rationalizations for why it's acceptable for her to submit to usury by one callous player after another. She's "just having fun", two c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:34 AM
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Good question, why be angry and frustrated? Why are bluepillers angry and frustrated at how I choose to interpret tramp stamps, clit piercings and other marks of ownership traditionally forced upon cattle and slaves? I believe the group you're actually angry at are the wanton, drunken, attention-starved painsluts who make it their business to ensure that every man will associate tattooes and piercings with their sort of behavior. That is, trying desperately to prove one's strong, independent, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:26 AM
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Rather than trying to re-define what slut shaming is, I think the more important question here is how do we make slut shaming more prevalent? Without slut shaming, sluts would run rampant even worse than they presently have, spawning ever greater hordes of bastards, depleting the coffers of government and just generally tearing apart the fabric of civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:15 AM
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I think the problem here is you're addressing what is essentially a rationalization. Men don't hate the idea of committing to a slut because their frontal lobes, after assessing all the data, generated this rational decision that, in the context of today's dating market, promiscuous women are inherently worthy of contempt. What's actually happening, is happening at a deeper, instinctive level, where primeval urges like sexual jealousy reside. The need to possess, and in fact ensure singular poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:09 AM
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How do you explain guys who lose interest in girls who are loyal, have frequent/enthusiastic sex with them, maintain the same body (or better), and basically have the same personality he was interested in when he started seeing her? Plum foolishness. Men are not perfect any more than women are. I mean, with the assortment of women we're forced to deal with in this day and age? Any man who intentionally destroys a relationship with a comparable SMV women who is consistently DTF, loyal and not a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 08:55 AM
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Alphas are leaders, betas are followers. That's the simplest possible way to break it down. If someone has influence, respect, leads others, does what they want independent of what others do/think, they are are alpha. Period. Doesn't matter if they have other traits you don't like. If someone is constantly being influenced, lacks respect (including self respect), looks to others for leadership and guidance, and can't stop asking his girlfriend 'I dunno babe, what do YOU want to do?" ... he is be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 06:40 AM
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I think it comes from the female mindset which is essentially lazy. They want everything to be "genuine" aka have no effort or work involved. They want to just exist, and have someone give them love, support, and every other need attended to simply by virtue of their existence and having a pussy. They likely don't realize that this "method", if you could call it that, of acquiring a relationship does not work when you lack said pussy. Pussies have inherent value, cocks are a dime a dozen. A man …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 06:17 AM
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if a girl says "just be yourself" she probably means it as relax and "act natural." nervous guys come off as creepy. Lower the creep factor. Good point. Hadn't thought about this initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 06:14 AM
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But even then, it motivates us not because it turns us on, but rather because of our fascination with the emotional responses it can evoke and how it offends the common man. I think there's some truth here, but something also feels missing. Yes, violating sexual taboos may excite us in ways that have nothing to do with the sex part of our brains. Possibly. But the brain is an insanely complicated organ. Once something gets tied to your sexuality -- once it physically turns you on -- connections …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 06:02 AM
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I think the unwrit message here is basically, most women, including the OP, want to be dominated by their man during sex. That means man on top, man controlling, man thrusting, man fucking, man using technique, man inducing the orgasms. Woman lying back and just enjoying taking it and submitted. A sort of analogue for the relationship between men and women generally. The idea that a woman can be in that role during sex, and in fact, that a woman has any responsibility during sex, even over her o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 05:49 AM
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My thoughts on this are complicated, but I'll try and distill it. If the woman feels like the man needs her, like he is leaning on her, using her for emotional support/stability, is using up her cash, etc... she won't be able to respect him in the long run. If the man feels like the woman needs him, is leaning on him, requires his physical and monetary support, etc... then both parties will be perfectly content. That's the basic contradiction at play. The man can lean on the woman at times, in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 05:41 AM
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1.) If you could change the age of consent, what would you change it to? (Keep in mind most states already have romeo and juliet clauses...so if you'd include that, mention what age difference you'd tolerate as maximum for under age of consent, etc) 16 seems reasonable to me. 2.) If there were no age of consent, and you could sleep with any women you wanted, how old do you think they'd be (range youngest-oldest)? 16-90. If everything's on offer, I want to sample everything. I'd eventually settle…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 05:30 AM
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Lifting has myriad benefits for a man in today's world. That much is beyond dispute. TRP should be lauded for the emphasis it places on fitness, if anything. Even so, I think you're over interpreting a few posts, seeing them as evidence for some kind of deep, sciencey TRP theory that mass = manliness, when in reality its a few isolated views and/or simple hyperbole designed to get you hype. I hypothesize that some kind of insecurity is at play here, causing you to become unnecessarily irritated.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 05:20 AM
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Sometimes someone will write a one line troll post and then follow it with a less emotionally driven, rational post, and I enjoy the latter. They have a certain passion and lack of caution that you don't often see in a debate forum. Doesn't happen often -- usually it's just one angry insult followed by another -- but a man can hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 10:52 AM
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Either I struck a nerve or you're just out of ideas. Or just feeling ornery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 10:42 AM
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Basically, I'm not actively trying to get anyone to like me and want to be with me. Unsurprising. The average woman does not have to put effort into acquiring a mate. They can simply give assent to any one of what is sure to be a long line of eager suitors. The burden of approach, seduction, and escalation is on men. Women are free to just exist, like art, and will be admired and appreciated for that. You seem to revel in this carefree, pedestalized existence. Meanwhile the men of the world must…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 10:33 AM
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The Red and the Black was a sick book. Not sure how I feel about Stendahl in the context of sexual strategy or the gender wars, but he certainly had an incisive view on the mores and society of his time. Come to think of it, he really nailed what it's like being a young man struggling to find his way through life without any solid guidance other than shit he read in books, who's just kind of following a program like an automaton without ever developing originality, a firm identity or genuine con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 10:16 AM
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I will summarize the blue pill advice you are going to get here. You are not entitled to sex, you pig. Stop treating your wife like an object. As a free and independent woman, your wife has the right to revoke her consent to sex with you, unilaterally and permanently. Just like she has the right to divorce-rape you on a whim and lay claim to most of what you own. If any of that causes you to suffer, tough. Your wife is entitled to have you continue providing the same level of support and emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:59 AM
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For every stupid pop song about embracing materialism and degeneracy in the guise of 'empowerment', there is a rap song which is also about embracing materialism and degeneracy... but which is at least honest about sluts, hos and how to avoid being wrecked by them. Music is a wash. It's diverse enough that you can find both RP and BP views scattered throughout. The great thing about art is that it's still relatively free from the grip of political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:36 PM
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Well said. I think the camera also played into the reaction to the woman. The psychology of your average catcaller is encouraged by a camera being present, if anything. They like attention, and they want to violate societal norms. So the woman's bitchface and the fact that she's being filmed while invading their hood is, if anything, an implicit challenge. It's saying "I dare you savages to disturb me as I power walk through your disadvantaged neighborhood for my own exploitative ends."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:24 PM
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Funny, that was my question on seeing the original "harassment" video. Yknow, the one with the woman in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:22 PM
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When the 'danger' you're explaining is based on a stack of extremely remote hypotheticals, you need to rethink whether danger is the appropriate term. No one actually endangers a woman in broad daylight with eyes and cameras around. The term you're actually looking for is discomfort. That's what we're talking about here. Women feeling uncomfortable. If it was these same streets when it's dark out, no police around, and same groups of lower class hoodlums hanging about, then danger might be a lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 08:57 PM
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Nice guys think giving a woman commitment and support means they will get sex. The female equivalent would be a woman who thinks fucking alphas entitles her to their commitment and support. Their ranks include clingy branch swinging sluts who love to pursue unavailable assholes and then whine when it doesn't work out, while ignoring the masses of available men around her. She loves to bitch to her orbiters about how shed like a man to finally treat her right, but continues to shoot for men who'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 09:58 AM
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I do think you did a good job of describing the difference in philosophy/perspective between your average nice guy and your average TRPer. However, there are very tangible, visible differences between the two as well and I wanted to highlight those in my description. I think it's evident that a believer in the fair/just world, is less motivated towards striving to get ahead and look out for themselves, and more motivated to try and mold his environment to more closely match his notions of justic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 08:30 AM
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We could argue creepy, but for the purposes of this debate, let's assume red pillers aren't just straight up lying through their teeth and actually do hit the gym as much as our comments and philosophy would suggest. If you'd like to construct what you think is a more fair description of your average Nice Guy and TRPer, be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 06:33 AM
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Im not saying which would you rather date. Im saying which do you think is worse. If you had a male cousin, say. Which would you rather he be? I realize you'd rather he be something else altogether, but if those were choices, which would you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 05:52 AM
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Most people like their gender not because of the perks and privileges attached, but because it's a core part of their identity and how they view themselves. You can't just rewire yourself, but even if the operation did that, then going through with it is a kind of suicide as it erases who you were previously. Your argument is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 04:52 AM
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Question for you since your story strikes a nerve, if you could've played your hand differently during that first marriage. What would you have done?
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 08:08 AM
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Narcissists are probably present in high numbers at TRP. Anti-social personality types, I would argue, are no more represented at TRP than any other place. Reason being that truly anti-social personalities are more likely to filter into MGTOW, some anti-PUA manosphere site, or other places where the emphasis is on stewing in one's own rage rather than overcoming it in order to be even more socially adroit and involved than one was before. Aspies are probably present in higher than usual numbers …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 07:19 AM
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They're good for fucking too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 10:33 PM
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Congratulations. Id say you did just fine. Be careful not to get too invested and lose your outcome independence / develop one-itis. Easy trap to fall into when breaking a dry spell. Id keep going with tinder and explore other options. The more opportunities and success you line up the more your confidence will shoot up and this whole thing will snowball.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 06:20 PM
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Kudos for the honesty. You sound like a hell of a guy. Keep on doing what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 12:47 PM
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A lot of reasons dude. People are naturally softer on women. Women form an echo chamber of telling each other they're awesome and deserving of everything and that any negative experience they have is cause of oppression. People who are brutally honest to women and explain how their weight problem is physically revolting to others at an instinctual level, tend to be shamed and ostracized, so the legit criticism has a hard time making its way through. It's not just fat women though, fat men can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 12:40 PM
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Alright let me go a little deeper. You can read the sidebar post related to that quote if you disbelieve me. The man who wrote it was talking about social contract theory as relates to sexual strategy. Raping, killing, drugging people without their knowledge, threatening, coercing... all these are more or less recognized to be universally harmful actions. The fact that they are not moral, is a reflection of the fact that disparate elements comprising a society were all, or mostly, able to agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 12:31 PM
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My point is that theres little a woman can do to not be a slut, since by some mens standards she's a "slut" if she's had more than 3+ partners or ever had casual sex. Knowing this many women say: fuck it. By that definition there's little anyone can do to not be anything. There's nothing I can do to not be a misogynist since some radfem believes I am one no matter what I do, so I may as well rape and kill with abandon. Clearly this is faulty reasoning. The point is not to escape criticism by eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 12:07 PM
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That's an interesting point. Let me respond by saying sexual strategy is amoral, not immoral. I've debated this numerous times, but rather than rehash everything I'll simply state that the originator of that quote was arguing that sexual strategy is amoral precisely because it is distinct from rape, coercion, lies, things generally recognized to be immoral for reasons having nothing to do with sex. It was delineating the boundaries of acceptable discussion. Not claiming that any and every act is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 11:40 AM
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The problem with the whole "slut" thing is its totally relative, I guess I don't see how that matters. Peoples preferences are all totally relative - doesn't make them less important. Who we find attractive doesn't have to be "fair." As long as men judge women about their sexual history, women will lie about it. "As long as women continue to withold sex, men will continue to rape them." I think we can agree that arguing that men are "asking for it" is maybe not the best grounds for productive di…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:10 AM
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Lol back to TBP with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:03 AM
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Nah. So long as you're honest, open about your sexual history and expectations on sex/commitment, and ready to accept that other people have agency and might decide not to commit to you based on your sexual history or commitment requirements, more power to you. It's only when people lie, waste other people's time (say, by engaging with people whose sexual standards are incompatible with their own), or do zany things like try and trap a male with sex or promises of wild sex and then withdraw that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 09:36 AM
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I think you're a little off the mark. It's not about emulating the 'social skills' of a naturally handsome, built guy. It's about developing the same confidence, outcome-independence and ability to hold frame. I'd say this is something TRP gets right, compared with pick up. Pick up can teach you neat tricks for being interesting and holding a girl's attention, playing with her emotions and such. But all that's ultimately less important than the basics: being at ease, self assured, in control. Wh…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 07:36 AM
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I admit, there was a significant gap for me between accepting the truth of TRP, and actually internalizing and acting on it. My mistake was spending far too much time reading and talking about TRP on the internet, being proud of the fact that I had this awesome knowledge, instead of going out and acting on it. A few months ago I decided to take a step back and really put my fucking shoulder to the grindstone. Saw serious improvements at the gym, work, at home, socially... everything. TRP means n…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 07:22 AM
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I think there's a solid point here. In order to be open to TRP, a man either has to be on the path already (natural alpha) or be fucking fed up and mad as hell at his default, meek, society-approved life. I'm not sure what causes people to cross that threshold, probably different for everyone. In any case, I don't even try introducing TRP to anyone who isn't close enough to be considered kin. Too much risk and effort for someone who likely isn't worth it. TRP is for the few with the grit and ten…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 07:13 AM
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Her doubts are unfounded. The guy has accomplished everything he set out to do since his, what I think is fair to call redpill transformation. 30 days without PiV sex, with your partner taking care of your needs in other ways, is a small price to pay for continuing on his journey of self discipline. The naysayers in that comments section are simply envious and threatened by the notion that someone could achieve that level of motivation, control and discipline. It's painfully transparent. All tha…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 06:54 AM
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Has this bitch no shame? She doesn't even let her poor dupe of a husband down easily. Just goes straight to no-sex without even a cooling down period. That said, he's a moron for not calling off the engagement.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 08:16 AM
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She's anti-feminist, though not quite like the women in RPW. She hates housework, and would leap at the chance to be the primary earner and divide up all the housewifey chores, though that would never actually happen because A) my career is going too well and B) i wouldn't let it. My wife would say she's egalitarian if pressed, but she's quite feminine and submissive as far as how our relationship goes. She dislikes feminism because, well, modern feminism is rife with dumbasses who have eroded d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 01:56 PM
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You're so fucking entitled lol. Sorry, but as much as it grinds your gears, you don't get to decide who men are attracted to, who they decide to fuck and who they decide to commit to. None of your shaming tactics will ever change that. A slut is a slut. Sluts are bad at commitment. No amount of outrage is going to change that fact. I mean, what do you want, for guys to just swallow their innate disgust and force themselves into relationships they don't really want? If a man isn't entitled to a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 01:48 PM
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Married RPer. I'll chime in here and say you have to be a fucking oak tree to sustain a good healthy marriage. A woman will have all these raging emotions, tantrums, being down in the dumps, depressed because life is just so hard... your job is not to sympathize or empathize or help her explore her feelings or any of that shit. You just remain calm, soothe and assure her like you would a startled horse. She needs to feel like you're in control and unphased at all times. That's the man's job, and…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 01:26 PM
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I instantly recognized one of my old friends being described here. As many good qualities as he has -- loyalty, saying funny shit, always being down to hang or go out -- it was all ruined by how gay he was about girls. He was forever trying to get with 3s and 4s and failing due to his reek of desperation, and wouldn't take advice but just kept pleading for us to act as wingmen or like... get him a girlfriend somehow. And god forbid any of us dip out of an activity or say no to a hang out. He'd g…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 01:08 PM
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This needed to be said. It's good to have friends who have your back and who you can lean on when you need to get shit done. But you can't get too sentimental about it and make it into more than what it is. I've had to discard friends at various stages of my life, and others have done the same to me. There's no malice in it, it's just that the commonality has dissolved. I harbor no ill will towards anyone who decides to cut old ties in order to move on/up in life and pursue their mission. Same w…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 12:51 PM
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In this society, money guarantees that you can buy the specific food that you want to buy, therefore you are not powerless over the situation at all, providing you have a job/money, like most people do. Let me stop you right there. The specificity of the food you can get is roughly equal to the specificity of the sex you can get. You can't guarantee a specific chef or food supplier will deal with you, but you can always find someone roughly analogous to them. Likewise, you can't guarantee that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:05 AM
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should i speak in certain tones to fakely maintain my frame like red pill dogma says? will you then be my loyal plate? most red pill types are followers, hence their reliance on red pill dogma and cliches. if you don't make an argument other than to say something is shitty, i don't have much to respond to. I pointed out a flaw in your analogy about business; it's not that you don't have any valid points to respond to, you just choose not to, because it's easier to keep hurling ad homs. just like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 07:58 AM
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Edit: a more serious response. at the end of the day, the women are the ones who decide if they will give their attention/sex/time to these males. At the end of the day, almost every aspect of your life is indirectly controlled by someone else's decisions. Unless you are a self sufficient hermit of some kind, most of your daily needs are fulfilled by other people who decide to give you attention/time/money/resources. You can't eat unless someone else decides to give you the crops or livestock th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/14 12:43 PM
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I'm just gonna single out this one comment as I feel it's pretty indicative of how shitty your 'debate' style is. business is not inherently focused on making money though, it's about focusing on a trade, occupation, doing a particular thing. Also known at TRP as being a man, raising SMV and becoming alpha. If you're going to talk analogies, don't exclude the points of comparison that are inconvenient to you. there are many businesses, possibly a majority, that care more about the work itself th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/14 12:41 PM
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He asked too many questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 06:00 AM
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Did your girlfriend just cheat on you OP? Because that's the vibe I get off your posts. You seem really mad about other people exercising their right to make relationship decisions. Like fucking two people at once is some huge crime. Why not take it up with sluts and the feminists who "empower" them? TRP is a drop in the bucket compared to the wanton sluttery taking place under feminist auspices. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:43 AM
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I pedestalized women in middle school and part of high school. For a long time I was just oblivious to them, focused on doing my own thing, reading, hanging with my male buddies, playing videogames and the like. When puberty kicks in you suddenly want to fuck all the female creatures you previously didn't notice. This subliminal desire, for me, often expressed itself as a kind of infatuation. I wanted to fuck the girls at my school, badly, but to my innocent, idealistic, nerdy self, this meant t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:33 AM
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I grudgingly agree with this. I feel the whiteredpill troll could've just made a serious account and pointed out, 'if you accept THESE arguments about why women are so terrible, why not these very similar arguments about the inferiority of certain races?" Would've been an interesting discussion. I have some HBD leanings myself. Too bad that guy was too busy trolling to make a serious post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:06 AM
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Because humans aren't actually motivated by logical self interest? Business owners in the American south during Jim Crow could have, in many cases, made bank by allowing black customers even if it cost them some white customers, but they didn't do it. They didn't even consider doing it, because the culture had made it unthinkable. De facto racial segregation was kept in place via force, not culture in some ephemeral sense. White northerners, carpetbaggers, Republicans, "nigger lovers" and the li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 03:59 AM
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Not sure if blue pillers responding dont realize they're declaring themselves in favor slut shaming with the genders inverted... or dont care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 03:31 AM
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Brah, that was my point. The blue pill guy was the one trying to justify slutting it up on the basis of "men used to be able to do this so it can't be all THAT bad". But men actually couldn't sleep around willy nilly unless they were a 1%er or a soldier in some conquering army. I suspect you're an anti trp poster and this is pretty awkward, us accidentally agreeing, so let's both pretend it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 11:09 AM
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The point I was responding to was that men were traditionally allowed to fuck around, hence women should now be allowed to if men are going to abandon their traditional role. I didn't "blame feminism" for traditionalism, that's your quick take after not fully reading. It's cool, it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 10:51 AM
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Eunuchs? Societal classes have existed longer than the term 'working class'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:19 AM
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I have a simple life philosophy. If I don't like it, I do something about it. I have yet to see a discussion on this subject that talks about women needing to up their game. It's always the same, men suck at sex and we need to shame them. How about developing some communication skills? How about speaking up when there's something about sex you don't like, or think could be better? If you're slutting it up stumbling from one shitty yet initially exciting ons after another, how about developing so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 09:36 AM
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untrustworthy people only care about themselves. Nah. Untrustworthy people can be untrustworthy for any number of reasons. Drug addicts are untrustworthy because their addiction can get the better of them despite their empathy. Psychopaths are untrustworthy because they have a mental illness. Spies are untrustworthy. the shoplifting stats indicate that men engage in more selfish, antisocial behavior even in the arena of shopping which is a more female dominated area. Nah. Stealing from a corpora…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:49 AM
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You should look into some of the problems associated with self reported surveys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias He's not just pulling objections out of his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:35 AM
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I feel that if you're married and one partner starts saying "no" to sex all the time, that's basically an invitation to cheat. Other than that, don't really condone it. btw, no red pill man should promise fidelity if he can help it. Automatic dread and avoiding the trap of (common law) marriage is the way to go in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:32 AM
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I'm not sure about the overall effect. What I do know is that feminism presently encourages women to drink and party to excess, and take zero precautions to prevent themselves from being raped (because that would be victim blaming). It also wastes its energy preaching to a choir of white knights, shaming them for their privilege and participation in"rape culture", while ignoring the hardened sociopaths who actually commit these crimes. Feminists also work diligently to expand the definition of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:26 AM
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Mah nigga
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:15 AM
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This article was posted recently on TBP, what's your take from it? Lecture on why feminism is right and good and necessary and must be upheld by men, disguised as an article having something to do with masculine identity. In the 2-3% of the article actually having to do with the purported subject, the author somehow manages to argue that masculine identity is both important and "increasingly irrelevant", and that masculine traditions are both perfectly fine and "a load of rubbish." In other word…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 08:06 AM
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Your point about "European society of..." organizations would make sense if those weren't mostly, or all, based in Europe. Hope it was clear from context that i was talking about the US, where having a society for people of European descent (whites) is rare and highly controversial. Btw, European Americans is a barely recognized term to begin with. They're called "whites" for the most part. The equivalent of a black or Latin association is most definitely not a "European society of..." Problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/14 02:25 PM
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Your points about ethnic organizations would make more sense if there weren't myriad groups and associations for "Asians" "Latin Americas" and the like despite those being huge umbrella categories. There are easily as many Latin sub groups as there are white, yet one group can band together for greater influence and unity, the other can't. I'm sure we both know why, even if we disagree on whether that "why" is justified Promoting only the smaller less inclusive groups is kind of Balkanizing or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/14 02:11 PM
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A revival of pro-male culture. Most anything that negatively effects men is just a symptom of societal... I don't want to say misandry, but a general disdain for all things masculine. You can't have white clubs, organizations, lobbies, but you can have them for any other ethnicity. Men are similarly gimped. Anything with greater male than female representation is perceived as bad. Simply pointing out that something, doesn't matter what it is, is majority male, or represents male interests, makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/14 09:48 AM
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Do you feel that this will stop sexual assaults on college campuses? If yes, please explain why you think this is an effective counter-measure. If no, propose a better solution. This won't do much. Hardcore rapists will rape no matter what. Drunken regret sex will still happen, because drunk people are too drunk to realize the risks. The only thing this really effects is cases where the chick "freezes up" and doesn't say no, or says yes, but actually she meant no, and super ambiguous shit like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 09:12 AM
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I'm not much a fan of this law, but I have to say, you put a pretty reasonable spin on it. Also, I love the phrase 'quest to get laid.' My inner text-adventure nerd got pretty excited.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 08:54 AM
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Yeah, I don't get it. First you say you thought we loved debate. Then I explain why what you've written isn't actually a debate. Then you quote something from the sidebar? Maybe this time, your secret hidden message that you refuse to actually talk about is that while your post may not be a debate in the strictest sense, I shouldn't criticize it because it's still a discussion? While that may be, you didn't say discussion, you said debate. I'm not sure what you get by asking these insinuating qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:53 AM
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He's clearly upset, and I'd argue rightfully so, that a woman has the audacity to claim rape when she consented to every action leading up to the sex and then did literally nothing to show she was not consenting. Yknow, like an ordinary, decent human being would. But moreso, he's likely angry at the responses backing her up and eviscerating the male for daring to initiate sex with his girlfriend. Any refutation of the points he made? Just curious. It seems evident to me, that if one cannot expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:42 AM
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It isn't a debate because you have no stated position, only questions. It seems fairly evident that you DO have an opinion on shit tests, how frequent they are, what form they take, etc., but you seem intent on gradually leading us there through endless questions rather than just stating what you think. So here's what I think you think. You think shit tests basically don't really happen. Most of what TRP considers shit tests are us overthinking and reading malicious intent, conscious or unconsci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:35 AM
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I'm genuinely curious as to how TRP can continue to deny that they collectively hate certain demographics when the evidence is right there. Someone care to explain? I'll take a crack: TRP are the only ones arguing for protecting a certain demographic, that is, women, against being having the shit kicked out of them by transgender women who were born biologically male, and thus have an unfair advantage, all politically correct protests to the contrary. That was actually the main point of that pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:03 AM
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Why is it always about rights and taking away your rights? Because rights, along with obligations, are the foundations of morality, and you asked a moral question. Many RPs hold women in contempt. There is a big difference between not liking other people (your words), and despising a gender (the actual topic). No there isn't. Not liking and despising are virtually synonymous. The latter just happens to be a step closer to "hate," but the argument doesn't change for hate. You can hate people with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 06:46 AM
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Isn't this shifting the goal posts? I mean, rather than argue whether specific examples of a shit test are in fact, shit tests, why not just address the definition itself? Just say what you actually think. Seems like it'd be a faster and more productive route to actual debate, than us watching you employ the Socratic method and ask two questions for every answer you receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 06:32 AM
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Not really sure how I feel about those bills. More advisors, more accountability on the part of universities... what the fuck are the universities even doing investigating sexual assault in the first place? That's a job for police. Yet the relationship only seems to be strengthening. I don't like schools being made part of the state apparatus, especially when they're able to impose their own standards of what constitutes rape (drunken regret sex, for instance) and their own evidentiary standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 05:58 AM
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Seems like evolution would dictate that the most successful societies would reflect the most successful adaptive behaviors If this is really your argument -- and just as an offhand comment, it's a bad one, as TRP represents individual strategy rather than a societal one -- you need to look at the values societies had while they were achieving their success. America's success takes the form of a vast, unified land full of wealth and industry, with favorable trade relationships and a huge military…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 05:32 AM
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What bi-partisan legislation? I feel it's a false dichotomy anyway. One can speak out strongly against victim blaming, and yet not get all hysterical when someone else tries to school women on how not to get falling-down drunk at parties and end the night in a sloppy, helpless stupor getting railed by frat boys. If assholes are the ones changing the system, it doesn't make them any less assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 05:10 AM
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I don't think society could exist without both red and blue pill values. Blue pill focuses on empathy, caring, idealism, understanding, self sacrifice, respect for others, honesty, etc. Humanity could not function if everyone abandoned these values. They are currently too dominant, though, creating an unhealthy environment of political correctness, thought policing, erosion of individual rights in favor of the collective need, and so on. Red pill focuses on striving for success, realism, competi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 04:59 AM
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You should shift Yoffe and Coughlin's quotes a little to distinguish them from your preface like so That out of the way, I enjoyed both articles. I probably wouldn't agree with either writer on much, but their simultaneous message that rapists are bad, AND women should take steps to protect themselves from rapists, strikes me as vastly more sensible than the typical screeching feminist's victim-blamer-blaming position.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 04:51 AM
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The fact that you've overthinking this shit is a bad sign. I just get this vibe of insecurity off your post. You care way too much whether letting some chick sleep on your sofa is the "right" thing or not, its impact on whether or not you get laid, how TRP perceives you, how BP perceives you, etc. My advice is stop obsessing over minor shit and just focus on being strong, confident, masculine. People let other people crash on each other's sofas all the time. Just don't be all fucking weird about…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 04:41 AM
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i'm referring to happiness in terms of physiological and mental health, i.e. the opposite of depression. Too bad happiness is a fuzzy concept and has no one universally agreed upon definition, otherwise a survey on self reported happiness might actually be related to your view on what constitutes it. doesn't a truly enlightened person rise above genetically hardwired reward mechanisms? you think a sex focused system like red pill fits that bill? I think a truly enlightened person chooses their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 04:32 AM
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Because people have the right to dislike who they want? Because dislike is not a crime (as of yet, but give liberals a few years.) Kind of a skewed argument here. It's like, you obviously have some reason you think that people should not be allowed to dislike others..... but you refuse to actually elaborate on it, and instead, just keep asking RPers to justify themselves. I can't really do that until you explain why what I'm doing is wrong, if it even is. You know? It's like, I have the right to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 03:57 AM
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redpill is a cult which worships vanity and selfishness, and thinks that happiness can result from those things. Happiness is not the end-all be-all of existence, nor the primary focus of TRP. I think you're approaching this from the philosophy of 'happiness is the most important thing in life, if you're happy but a worthless piece of shit who just sits there stuffing his face with doritos and jerking off to beastiality porn, you're still a-okay.' Happiness, like most human emotions, is just ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 03:45 AM
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You're barking up the wrong tree here brah. The right to fuck your wife when and how you want was part of the original covenant of marriage, but thanks to feminism, women no longer want to uphold their end of the bargain. The problem is, this ship has long sailed in most civilized parts of the world. Unless Muslims manage to outbreed the native inhabitants of said parts, it won't be coming back any time soon. Your time would be better spent avoiding marriage, recognizing it for the raw deal it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 10:30 AM
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There are many different definitions of masculinity, TRP tends to filter the ones that serve society over the individual or the feminine imperative. Good analysis though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 10:22 AM
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My personal problem with falsification as a means to proving or disproving a theory is that it can mean that two utterly contradictory theories can be taken as factual because neither is falsifiable - the assumption that women are different on a cognitive level than men as well as the assumption that both sexes are totally equal on a cognitive level is a perfect example of this. I thought the OP's point, as well as Popper's, was that a theory can't be proved true or taken as factual unless it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 01:38 PM
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Anyone have a link to the actual study, rather than simply the abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 01:28 PM
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So... You have to not do the thing that's moral in order to have sex. It's a backwards way of doing it, but this is directly advocating doing things that immoral. Or the ones that you're told are moral to uphold but do not bring you sex? Emphasis mine. Surely you recognize there's a difference between things that are moral, and things that we're merely told are moral. Therefore there is no common social contract that we can commit to that benefits both genders. Only men are so easily fooled into…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 12:43 PM
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I mean, I like your ideas, but as you yourself admit, they are basically impossible to implement. There's any number of ways we could theoretically fix marriage, society, and gender relations. But they aren't going to happen. Marriage as it presently exists serves the interest of women quite well. The bias of family and divorce courts runs in their favor. The cultural expectations are for a groveling proposal, a huge rock, and an expensive and gaudy wedding, followed by the god given right to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 12:03 PM
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How does this article strike you, and what do you think about domestic abuse? I think it makes a phenomenal point, that the excuses people use to rationalize why they stay in an "abusive" * relationship are generally terrible, and reflective of stupidity, hypocrisy and a sort of masochism. ^ ironic quotes are here used to indicate that much of what the blue pill world considers abuse, such as parts the economic and emotionals section of the wheel, and the entire privilege / deny sections, are si…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 11:56 AM
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He's referring to the the blue pill as envisaged by TRP, ie, a set of mores and societal practices that serve the interests of women above those of men. Not the blue pill satire sub which arose much later to hijack the term for their own purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 11:41 AM
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I agree, but beyond the immediate situation, what should the advice be? For self improvement? How fast and hard should he put his foot down the next time a woman who has fucked and sucked her away around the block tries to deny him sex? I'm betting that first dude's sagacious use of dread game netted him a taste of ass, deep throat, sex basically on tap 24/7... things she'd never do for her current whipped beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 11:07 AM
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Indeed. I'd posit this situation is far from uncommon. A woman accustomed to getting railed by dominant, uncompromising males gets into a relationship with a weaker male, and, rather than admitting that dominance and dismissiveness is what gets her juices flowing, hamsters that she's now "empowered" to decide to have sex less infrequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 11:05 AM
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And the next time he wants to get some actual sex from a similar woman who only puts out if you're sufficiently an asshole about it...? Who better than we can teach him how to master the woman who only puts out for "abusive" men. Can blue pillers impart that skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 10:56 AM
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Of course he should dump her. She's vastly more trouble than she's worth, which is almost nothing, given she fucks him once every three months. The question is what to do with himself. His long suffering nice guy self made eunuch ways were beyond what anyone would call reasonable. If he wanted to fuck her, and he clearly did and does, he would've been best served by displaying an ounce of the self centered, uncompromising dominance that apparently every other man to ever fuck her (a long list!) …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 10:51 AM
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Gentlemen, thoughts? There's nothing to argue. You've made up your mind that a woman's right to trust is more important than a mans right to have the same surety of paternity that women enjoy by default. It's a value judgement that I doubt anyone here is going to be able to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 01:19 AM
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2.) You have to consider your needs if your gender changed might be different. For example, if you're a man you can't say "I'd just walk naked into a bar and screw everyone" because if you were female, you probably wouldn't derive any enjoyment from that. This is basically why this exercise is pointless. It's impossible to say with accuracy what you'd do if your core identity was drastically changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 02:00 AM
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Third person to point this out. Id like to see the OP address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 01:42 AM
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MRAs are basically just dudes griping on the internet. They can't actually achieve shit, and don't or won't realize that being the male version of feminism will get them precisely nowhere. Feminists have enough of a head start such that every single institution MRAs could possibly influence, is already turned against them. Being overtly anti-feminist is a death sentence in academia, the media, politics. Feminists, meanwhile, can be as anti MRA as they please without reprisal. In the arena of pub…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:38 AM
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Something else I want to note is the impact of what they call themselves, "The Men's Rights Movement". This is the worst possible name they could have picked, and I think it exacerbates the PR problems they run into all the time Who gives a shit? PR and political correctness are spheres that feminism, SJWs and assorted (straight cishet white) man-haters have, and will always dominate. It's a crooked game and the odds are stacked, so why bother playing? Just lopping your dicks off and deciding th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:28 AM
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Ugh, what a lazy and shitty style of argument. First the accusation of misogyny with zero explanation attached. Now referring him to a therapist? Haven't seen you stoop to this kind of garbage before, bit disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:12 AM
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I think when people say "be a nice guy," they're essentially saying "be a hero." I would dispute this. When people tell a guy to keep being a nice guy, are they really telling him "you are already a nice guy, now you should work on being a strong, nice guy"...? Bearing in mind that the woman keeping emphasis on the "nice" is a terrible way of communicating that. Or are they saying, "god I'm so bitter about the jerks I always date, why can't they be nice like you." Or "let me quickly reassure you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:52 AM
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Wow, posts like these are why I bother with this sub. The comments have been really insightful on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 10:50 PM
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That women can't love the same way men do... they can, it's just rarer, and often to the benefit of cads, abusive men and other unsavory types. Just as "betas" heap loads of one-sided affection on women who don't deserve it. That AWALT. Unicorns exist. Some simply hail from a less entitled, feminized society. But beyond that, some women's brains aren't wired the ways other women's are. It's just, these high quality women tend to fall out of the dating market rapidly. I also reject a lot of the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 10:32 AM
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I have some problems with the sample group, online dating and older singletons are not perfectly representative of the general populace. That said, I accept the premise that young, fresh snatch looks best to men of all ages, creeds, nationalities, philosophical leanings, and so on, while women are more flexible in what they find physically attractive. If I may theorize, I'd say women are simply less straightforward in their evaluations of attractiveness. A man's value, including some positive tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 03:58 AM
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There are none, but if I should come up with those I consider most basic, I would say individual freedom of movement (as in: freedom to leave, not necessarily freedom to enter). I'm with Ephraim Kishon here: everything else follows. Astoundingly sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:34 PM
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Depends on the OP's intent. Acknowledging TRP's pragmatic value and how it relates to that of slavery would shift focus from TRP theory to complex sociosexual issues, and detract from the OP's overly simplistic portrayal of both red pill men and slaveholders. It would also require a deeper analysis of history than I think any blue piller is interested in. But if you'd like to take a crack, be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:30 PM
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Hey, way to start taking your balls back guys.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 10:38 AM
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Yet, they were absolutely people doing evil things. Debatable. Slavery as a form of economic and social organization certainly had its upsides. Depends on one's definition of evil. Through a complex set of faulty "evolution-based" justifications. There were a vast array of justifications for slavery, biological ones were hardly the first or the most prominent. Arguments for and against slavery were initially focused on the system's economic benefits. As anti slavery arguments increasingly shifte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:53 AM
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Do you think all human life is sacred and/or valuable? More a feeling than a thought. There's no intellectual rationale why humans are important, they just are. It's a kind of aesthetic appreciation, or simple bias. But there's no real reason why life is important or better than lifeless amorphous chaos. Often, people who talk about life's intrinsic value are simply playing on the in-group bias inherent to primate brains, trying to garner support for some societal policy which benefits themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:29 AM
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Listen: there's a future you that is strong, unafraid, and does not act like the world is ending when a woman he barely knows decides to fuck someone else. This guy has a solid career, loyal friends, takes care of himself and his family, doesn't take shit and doesn't whine, and is focused on his mission in life rather than what strangers think of him. There is only one real question here, are you going to make the choice to become that guy? Or are you going to sit here bitching, wasting time fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:02 AM
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You're confusing differences of opinion within a group of people with inconsistencies in red pill theory. Not that I don't think some inconsistencies are there, but you could make a better argument
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/14 10:27 AM
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I think your first paragraph was the strongest. Its not just boys, though. Boys have been hit the worst, but girls arent taught the skills, empathy and tact needed to be proper women, wives and mothers, like in days of yore. Everything traditional is becoming more and more stigmatized, because it's too "oppressive"... even as schools do their damnedest to make kids into obedient little worker drones. You're also spot on about the ongoing spiral of higher education into a contest over who can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 03:14 PM
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Lolz. Im a parent and am tired all the time too. It doesnt even really make a dent in my libido. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:58 PM
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Can I edit this? Satisfying sex isn't a norm. So if for one day he is to take all of my direction with no defensiveness regarding ego. I would pick this. But status quo sex... I'll pass. And honestly I would probably be satisfied after one very good multiple session. So the desire to again that day wouldn't be all that high. I know you didnt ask for advice, but damn. Tell him this bluntly so he can improve his performance. You'll both be better off. I don't talk that much. All of my SOs have tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:55 PM
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Lucky guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:53 PM
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I'll look into that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:53 PM
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does this mean the minimum standard that a man should accept is one that doesn't exist very often? This lady meets, probably exceeds the minimum standard for a traditional LTR with possible marriage. The standards for plates and pump'n'dumps are much lower. Why set such impossibly high standards, then cry victim when they're unable to be reached? Just because standards aren't being met, does not make them impossible to meet. If you hadn't noticed, redpill men work hard at self improvement. The p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:49 PM
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Idle curiosity mostly. I feel it is a common trope that most men would prefer 1 and most women would prefer 2. I also think it reflects reality, most men would like more sex and most women would like more .. well... non sexual intimacy. Im wondering whether that holds true for your average blue piller. Perhaps their dislike of TRP, and our embrace of it, reflects something deeper than mere intellectual disagreement, but a difference at the core level of desire and mentality. Not enough serious a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 01:18 PM
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Lol'ed sadly while writing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 01:13 PM
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But we pretty much know the unconscious answer our gender dictates to us - men prefer physical, women emotional comfort. Note that prefer doesn't mean that they dislike the other, just that the thing that they prefer is a modicum better than the alternative. I wanted to see how well this held for blue pillers. (RP answer is almost a given here) Also, updated the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 11:45 AM
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Ok. Ok. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 11:43 AM
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Updated the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 11:40 AM
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Updated the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 11:40 AM
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Sure. May as well add a,b. I don't agree 100% with any of it, but those two are also close. Darwinian morality, mayhap? This particular perspective suggests that moral systems produce something that enhances individual or group survival. Any thoughts on what that might be? Cooperation, hard work, innovation. Pretty basic stuff. Sociologists have likely figured all this out. We know what kind of social dynamics lead to prosperity, we just don't always know how to create them. I'm not necessarily …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 09:40 AM
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f and m are the ones I'm closest to agreeing with. On the one hand, morality is all basically just made up. It doesn't have any objective truth to it, like the speed of light. On the other hand, it's important for many reasons. One because it's built into human nature. I believe most of us are born with a thirst for something like social harmony and justice, whatever form it may take in our individual social milieus. I also think that morality is the flowering of an evolutionary process by which…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 08:42 AM
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I feel like cpfl roflcopter or whatever that mod's name is, is a really honest debater.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 08:33 AM
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I truly think that there are many people just like me. What do you think? Not really. Most people don't graduate college. Let alone a top research institution. Most people have >1 sexual partner. Most people do not split the cost of everything in a relationship. At some point you have to realize you are an outlier. Your circumstances alone set you apart from most. Your economic status is what makes a more gender neutral division of chores even possible, for example. I would posit that some combi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 08:30 AM
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How do men move forward? Few ways of coping with a bitch. Be in public - this will make her look bad if she's too overtly psycho and bitchy. Maintain calm and control. Don't back down, but don't escalate or raise your voice either. This shows you are in complete command of yourself and thus, any bitchery directed against you is futile. Use your wits. For that female boss example, you shouldve been recording all your conversations. Sooner or later she'd slip and say shit that could get her sued o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 08:04 AM
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Why do liberals of today consider themselves anti-murder, when the most leftist of all famous political figures tend to be murderous thugs and dictators like Che, Castro, Trotsky, Stalin? ^ This is about how stupid your question sounded. At least to me. Politics, society, sexuality, morality, philosophy, etc. have all changed drastically in the time since most of these dudes were in their prime. I feel that TRP's obsession with Conservatism is deeply flawed, and that TRP, is inherently a sociall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 06:25 AM
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Ah. So you have to offer these pinnacles of women two things: money, and not beating them. Which, as I said, is exactly what they want. A point you repeatedly refuse to acknowledge because it's easier to continue blaming men. Money may not mean much to you, but try and understand that other women are allowed to have value systems different from your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:58 PM
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More rights? How about equal rights. Babies shouldn't be murdered any more than women should be murdered. Surely you of all people can get behind equal rights. Unless of course, you think women should have more rights than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:22 PM
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For men: know when and how to lead. For women: keep his belly full and his balls empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:16 PM
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Unborn children don't have rights. This should be every feminist's slogan. Just go around telling people "unborn children don't have rights."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:13 PM
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You neglected the word abortion, just like you probably neglect the rights of unborn children
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:05 PM
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Thanks, I do try
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:04 PM
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Oh that's easy: exactly what they want. Money. But it's not really relevant is it? I mean as much you try and make it about TRP. It's Singaporean men fucking viet women. Kudos for your screen name though. Unrelated comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 12:03 PM
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I'm sorry, i thought that question was rhetorical as the answer is stupidly obvious to anyone who read the article. It explicitly states that Singaporean men are abandoning their local entitled, hypergamous, careerist, grasping, spinster women with their inflated egos and impossible standards and instead, plunging their dicks into the tight, virginal, but nonetheless willing snatches of these submissive, appreciative, unspoiled young viet gals. They are doing this in droves, so much that it has …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 11:38 AM
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It would be nice to have equal pay for equal work "It would be nice if the wage gap weren't a myth." be able to use contraceptive pills or access an abortion without having to justify it "I should be able to get away with murder and cast aside my parental responsibilities on a whim. But not men. Only women really have rights." wear bathers without being treated like a piece of meat "Men are unworthy of looking at me with their filthy eyeballs. They should look at their feet whenever I pass as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 11:32 AM
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Ick. They sure don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 08:48 AM
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You know women who let their possession of those rights stop them from claiming they're oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 08:34 AM
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Probably because vietnam was never a center of industrial or technological development to the same extent that wealthier nations were, and are. Can't really blame the women there for wanting to mingle with superior stock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 06:52 AM
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They actually seem quite fixated on going back there. The better things get, the harder they try and play the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 06:48 AM
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Is that a hmmm of disapproval at the vietnamese virgins low standards? I mean I get that you want to shame the men here, but if vietnamese virgins want my cock that badly... and the pop ups at my torrent site, not to mention this article, assure me that they do... who am I to judge? I mean, is it really our place to tell grown women who they can and can't fuck? To tell them they can't objectify men as meal tickets to lift them out of poverty? Perhaps they should all learn to appreciate us for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 06:45 AM
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This whole sub is basically the easy-mode, troll friendly version of FeMRAdebates. Not necessarily bad. Just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 06:33 AM
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The article seems to have less to do with perceptions of vietnamese virgins and more to do with perceptions of Singaporean men, specifically businessmen. Some relevant quotes: “I went to work in the factory because I wanted to marry a foreign man,” she said in a phone interview. ..many rural Vietnamese women still regard Singapore men as a prize catch and a way out of poverty. a lot of the ladies indicated that they didn't want a "mama's boy", a man with traditional values, nor a man who couldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 06:28 AM
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Women less likely than men to have flexible work schedule approved That is not what the study proved. Average person does not equal average HR person or boss. What the study proved, was that women are less likely to be seen as hardworking, trustworthy, deserving of a break, and so on. And the question that naturally flows from that, and which SJWs are loathe to even conceive of, is whether these stereotypes have some basis in truth. Some things to keep in mind is that identical dialogue may be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 10:37 AM
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I do think that when women sexualize themselves and make their own pleasure a priority it's somewhat different than being sexualized purely for someone else's pleasure. That's the difference I see between women who flaunt their sexuality and pursue their own desire (a goal of feminism) vs women who are reduced to satisfying someone else. I believe the argument being made, though, is that "satisfying someone else" is the desire being pursued, in the case the OP outlined. Because by freely and wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 09:09 AM
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OP was arguing that since the artists were being sexualized with their consent it wasn't objectification. The studies point out that even consensual sexualization led to negative attitudes towards the women, which is pretty much the definition of objectification theory. Right, but could we come up with a different word than 'objectification' then? I mean, lots of actions have potential negative consequences. Doesn't make them a denial of agency. Proving that men's attitudes changed when exposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 07:39 AM
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The studies show even consensual objectification of music artists leads to negative attitudes towards the objectified. Simple question, how does this contradict anything the OP said? So far as I can see he wasn't arguing consequentialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:55 AM
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I dunno, i guess i just dont really see the issue here. A dick is not the only object that can get a woman off, and given sufficient time and effort, any pair can achieve an orgasm ratio vastly in the woman's favor. A guy has a refractory period and all. Just seems like any woman who doesn't come during sex and blames the men involved, ought to first try taking a look in the mirror. Preferably while frigging her clit and finger banging herself. It somehow doesn't strike me as likely that the ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:45 AM
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Will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:38 AM
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You put a horny woman in front of me, and without convo I won't have much of a clue as to how to get that woman off. Paying some kind of attention to her clit? Yes. But, what kind? What side? Top? Bottom? Hard? Soft? Fast? Slow? All of the above? Ok, in what way? When? The stuff that gets individual women off can be SO varied. In that case, why would there not be a convo? Seems like a pinch more effort could bring earth shattering orgasms to the women of the world. You're RP so ascribing the rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:37 AM
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I wonder how you'd feel about X-art. Female porn is becoming a bigger thing than it once was. It's rather in vogue at the moment, actually. Source: watch a lot of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:34 AM
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Kinda hard to answer, isn't it? And yet, people are trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:29 AM
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Most women I know either started masterbating, or masterbated more after they became sexually active. This matches what ive been told as well. I think the female gender owes the male gender a big thank you for teaching them the pleasures of their own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:28 AM
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Maybe didnt convey my idea clearly. Im saying twice a week would be the bare minimum, like in a depressed funk with absolutely every reason to not masturbate or fuck. Usually I'd want to orgasm once or twice a day, more if the mood takes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:27 AM
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Lol, if I had a girlfriend who came out as lesbian to me, and I decide to just hold her down and fuck her anyway as punishment, while broken up / seeing other chicks, I wonder what the reddit response would be.... but nice story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 06:23 AM
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This seems pretty sensible to me. Sometimes the simplest explanations are best
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 01:12 PM
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How so? I'm just talking like i normally do dude. ಠ‿ಠ
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 01:09 PM
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a lot of young women would prove you wrong. Theyre more than welcome to. Huehue. I think if you get addicted to getting off, it's pathological. I dont really agree. I think that circumstances are important, yes. Emotions are important, having a fucking hot sexy partner is important, yes. I'll want to fuck/fap more under the right circumstances, but even without them, I still want my routine biweekly orgasm. And I think that's true for more dudes than chicks. (Not that I've been looking or anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:58 PM
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I don't doubt it. Kinda gets to what I was saying in my post. I think women get off on emotional highs, the circumstances leading up to sex, the 'newness' of a relationship, and other intangible psychological factors. Whereas men need little more than a hot sexy body and a wet tight hole. Oversimplification, but I do think the difference is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:30 PM
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Cool. So you should personally have sex with the 75% of women who can't orgasm via intercourse alone. Way ahead of you. Sorry, but it is kind of up to the guy when it comes to PIV. Is it always straight to PIV? Or PIV only? I enjoy making a woman orgasm all over my cock, sure, but it's far from the only way to give pleasure. And vice versa, I'm easily satisfied with being finished off with a blowjob or handy and coming on some tits. A chick who can give a phenomenal blowjob is pretty much a phen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:26 PM
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It's more a discussion than a debate. I'm looking for other people's views, experiences, advanced techniques... Try and start with the opening question: Do women masturbate less than men, and if so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 12:05 PM
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Perhaps selection bias, no? The blue pill women you refer to could be more likely to have attitudes antithetical to having fulfilling sex. Id think a broader view on the subject is useful, too. For women, probably men as well, it isn't just about the frequency of orgasms. Emotional chemistry is more important for womens arousal and sexual satisfaction than men, and of particular relevance here, rarer/more difficult to establish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 07:58 AM
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Which culture do you think is closer to the truth? Just curious. If there are biological tendencies inherent to both genders, as you said, then the likelihood of both genders being precisely as horny as each other is quite low.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 07:44 AM
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How do we know how direct the relationship is if we don't know the causal mechanism? My point in referencing occam's is that a direct relationship is a more probable causal mechanism to begin with as compared with a more convoluted explanation, all else equal. If the causal mechanism were known from the start then there would be no need to assess which is more probable at all. Of course, a better way to do all this would to combine the statistics and other data with a number of social models and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 10:49 AM
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Now making fun of Patriarchy theory I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:34 AM
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I'll take a shot. Making some point about bragplaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:19 AM
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This doesn't mean that by marrying someone under twenty you've decreased the probability that you'll get divorced. It also doesn't mean you haven't. Could be that women under 20 have some quality that makes divorce less probable regardless of the character of the man pursuing her. The directness of the relationship makes it a more likely candidate imo. Occam's razor. If that's the case, shouldn't we take statistics with a few more grains of salt than we currently take them with? Certainly, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:16 AM
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I think marriage itself no longer has any purpose. It's a legal formality that gives one person, more often the female than the male, rights to half the other person's resources. It's also an excuse for a woman to have a super special LOOK AT ME day, and waste ludicrous amounts of money on various nonsense. There's also some minor tax breaks involved which the government uses, in tandem with higher taxes generally, to try and coerce plebs into reproducing and not continuing their spiral into fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:05 AM
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However, whenever I see a man saying anything really virtriolic and horrible about women on TRP, even the more rational men there will say, "Look, he's angry because he's being rejected by women and he's been mistreted so many times, let him vent." And I can't help but wonder...WHICH women are rejecting him? Has he been rejected by all women, or just women out of his league? And if he's only being rejected by the women he approaches who are 8s and 9s, I don't really have sympathy because HE's pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 05:34 AM
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Look I get where you're coming from. But I'm not trying to rag on you, specifically, for not knowing about this problem. What you should ask, is WHY you havent heard about Rotherham until a redpiller mentioned it. Its a huge event, from a feminist perspective. Correct me if Im wrong. But this is fucking huge, much bigger than Boko Haram... more victims, took place in a fucking first world industrialized nations, involves the current #1 enemy of your country (radical Islam)... The reason you didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:45 PM
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That was pretty deep. Interesting to look at problems like these at a macro level. I'm guessing you studied biology or econ.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:38 PM
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Full disclosure: I have my issues with black culture, specifically the inner city/ghetto subset, which glamorizes crime and has this huge victim complex. That said, the problems in black culture are roughly on par with those of white culture... nothing like the out and out barbarism and insanity coming out of radical Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:36 PM
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I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:31 PM
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The world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel. Sick quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:57 PM
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So you raise some important issues that are central to the survival of our culture which we have a duty to preserve, but you have to reject many RP tenets to have any hope of contributing to the reversal of such trends. This is also inconvenient. Well said. I'd agree that ultimately TRP is more a symptom of the west's problems than a cure. What that cure might ultimately prove to be, though, I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:56 PM
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Thanks, this was a very informative post. I admit to not being all that knowledgeable about the political scene in UK/EU. As I've stated before, I'm from the US... over here, the enmity between feminists and the right is pretty deep/intense, so it's inconceivable that the two would band together even on a singular issue like immigration reform. But things could well be different over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:52 PM
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Haha, dude your irony is too subtle though. Going to go over most peoples heads
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:32 PM
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The guy's sister was raped. He looked to the people who have been all but accusing him of rape over trifles, his entire life, and who claim to be defenders of women's rights... and they were for once silent. And then he sees cops and journalists not doing their jobs properly in hunting down similar rapists, because they're scared these same people, feminists, liberals, etc. will accuse them of racism, which is an instant career ender. You wouldn't be a little pissed about all this? You would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 12:20 PM
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Excellent post. I agree with your last paragraph and i think it probably applies to TRP as well. Some middle ground between current feminized society and the nihilistic decadent pump and dump orgy until the collapse, which some at TRP advocate, is probably best. But will be long in coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:48 AM
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Preach it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:45 AM
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Admittedly, I am from the US, and Europe + uk often congeal in my mind as this sort of political/geographic blob to the east. However, my reference to Europe was more pointing out that the problem is pervasive. Ie, large and important enough to warrant discussion in places that discuss women's issues . If nonsense like pay gap, #notallmen and the like deserve attention, surely this does as well. My question, as to why is this issue not discussed more often by and among feminists, liberals, the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:37 AM
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Did you look at the links I posted? Excerpt from the BBC one: The report which revealed the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham - mainly by men of Pakistani heritage - found many reasons why the shocking scale of child sexual exploitation in the South Yorkshire town remained hidden. Councillors and council staff in particular were criticised for "avoiding public discussion"; some through fear of being thought racist, and some through "wholesale denial" of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 10:53 AM
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Marrying a woman who is under 18 (48% chance of divorce within 10 years) Who recommends UNDER 18? 18 is the low end of prime marriage age. A marriage founded in taboo, parental disapproval and hell, probable illegality (statutory rape), is as good as a castle founded on quicksand. Not having children (66% of divorced couples in the USA are childless) Mistaking effect for cause. 'Shittier relationships are less likely to produce children AND more likely to end in divorce' seems a more sensible an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 08:22 AM
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So men don't care about cheating? That's an interesting way to interpret Women are typically more concerned over emotional infidelity than physical infidelity, for men the opposite is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 02:06 PM
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Because I personally care more about a person's history of cheating and serious relationships, then their life on a "Pussy Parade" or "Cock Carousel." That does not surprise me. Women are typically more concerned over emotional infidelity than physical infidelity, for men the opposite is true. Sexual jealousy is stronger in men, emotional jealousy is stronger in women. To take it to a deeper level, women place a higher value on emotions than men generally. However, I find your perspective kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 07:08 AM
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how can a woman not be entitled/picky and also not be a slut? Easy, by doing one or the other. A woman with low partner count has, in a way, already earned the right to have higher standards than a slut. She brings a quality, chastity, to the table that the sluts don't, and therefore can demand more out of a potential partner. Value for value. It's not quite that simple of course. Every woman should cultivate high value if that's what she's looking for in a man. Having low partner count is usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 05:59 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 07:45 AM
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I absolutely think people of both genders should be judged on what they do, not what they say. Unfortunately, you gals are at least a decade behind men when it comes to this subject (non pc sexual strategy). But it's certainly an avenue women could explore. I think men are fairly straightforward with what they want sexually, but not so much what they want beyond "hot + all access pussy pass." If all women were equally hot and always DTF, it would be hard to tell what other traits would be the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 07:08 AM
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So, TL, DR: What is a course of action sexually that would make a woman perfectly respectable and not bitchy? Honesty. If you've slutted around, say so. If you find a guy a great provider but not your best match sexually, say so. If you're a virgin saving yourself for the best of the best, say so. If a guy is too nice, say so. If you have zero intention of ever sleeping with him, say so. Etc. You'll still get criticism (just as we men get criticism from one woman or another no matter what we do)…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 06:50 AM
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So you go, girls: start writing code. Heh, good one. Almost mistook this for a serious comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 06:45 AM
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Why are you placing on the blame on her? Why not the men she slept with? The one who was married deserves our scorn as well. The others too, if they cheated, but even then, we don't know that they cheated with 5 other people in what appears to be an attempt to fuck and suck their way up the indie games ladder. Also, none of them expressed the opinion that infidelity is equivalent to rape, afaik. So there's an element of hypocrisy unique to the female, in this case. The personal attacks against t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 06:43 AM
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You think I'm hurt you don't agree? You're a TRPER! You're one the lowest of the low when it comes to rational and unbiased thought. Take a look at your own behavior in this thread and tell me, who is truly acting irrational and biased? Reserving judgement on someone's guilt until after a trial is hardly an extreme view, and hardly limited to members of TRP. Meanwhile, hurling labels and insults at people you happen to disagree with is hardly the mark of a rational, unbiased actor. I'm not tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 06:21 PM
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Another thing that's "so obvious". Let's add a phD in psychology to your list of imaginary qualifications. He's in jail because he was arrested, not because he's been found guilty. This the calibre of evidence you're using to support your opinion? And worse, the notion that we should shame those who dare to discuss alternatives to your opinion? You think he's guilty that's fine. If you don't like the fact that I'm not going to adopt your opinion just yet, too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 06:02 PM
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Defense of what? Not condemning a man as guilty simply because some people are saying he is? He has yet to stand trial. I get that you feel strongly about his guilt, but I can still consider other possibilities. I don't even really feel the need to defend that, as it's a basic right of civilized society. You can dislike it, but your opinion has zero weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:52 PM
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Your extensive legal training tells you this? Your experience in law enforcement? Convenient brain fart you had there. Simply asking whether you agree to the first post in this chain is too complicated for you? Maybe you'd better stop talking if you don't even know or care what the actual subject is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:42 PM
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Point blank: is the post I originally responded to here something you agree with? Is "wtf you guys are DEFENDING A MAN WHO BEAT A WOMAN [not actually confirmed but yea I think that's wat happen]" really an appropriate response to someone discussing possibilities related to the case? Basically, are you arguing with me because you genuinely despise when people dont condemn alleged perpetrators pre trial? Or is it because I just rub you the wrong way emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:35 PM
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Back to square 1: "it's so unreasonable to consider the possibility that we don't already know exactly what happened. Anything but him attacking her in a blind misogynistic rage is blaming the victim, while declaring the man guilty is clearly the only moral course of action. I mean, we're not jurors, so obviously we have a duty to be as closed minded as possible!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:24 PM
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We're not jurors. We're allowed to have opinions related to guilt of a crime. Sure, unless our opinion is that we don't know that the mans guilty or not yet. Then you get blue pillers crying about "OMG THEYRE DEFENDING A MAN WHO BEAT A WOMAN" And other blue pillers jumping onto that thread to express their indignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:15 PM
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"Who cares if I crack jokes about it being 'some other felon' that beat her while repeatedly missing the point that the man has not been tried or convicted. Red pillers are such trolls, allowing for the possibility of innocence when so many of we blue pillers have decided that he's guilty. I mean really, how dare he?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 05:09 PM
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"Obviously what happened is what I think happened! It's so open and shut! Why do we have to have trials before calling people guilty, why can't we just throw his ass in jail now?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 04:59 PM
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"Stop playing the victim card and let us keep asserting this man's guilt as fact! Stop acting like victims just because we're trying to shame and silence all discussion that doesn't automatically assume he did what we think he did!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 04:52 PM
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Or that one of the other three people in the room caused them, or that they were inflicted in self defense... it's cool that you've already arrived at a verdict though. I mean, it's only a man on trial, right? Who cares if he goes to prison for a few decades because some idiots couldn't grasp the idea of innocent until proven guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 04:47 PM
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Cool, another person willing to judge a man guilty before the trial on the basis of their complete lack of any extensive legal training. Blue pillers are such an objective and fair bunch am I right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 04:41 PM
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Allegedly. But it doesn't surprise me that you're willing to jump on the bandwagon to destroy a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 04:19 PM
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But feminists do lie and invent attacks against themselves. I mean, just because you don't like the fact that it happens and can't get numbers to prove it happens as infrequently as you'd to believe, doesn't make the problem go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 07:52 PM
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Since when has this argument been prevalent? Since rape culture became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 07:38 PM
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I could've made this more clear. Profiling is fine, but it should be done for the right reasons. Men rape women more often than the converse coz of privilege, entitlement and patriarchal domination <- shitty, false set of reasons which can be used as justification for just about any shitty behavior or policy towards men as a whole. What's happening in college campuses now, with men being treated as guilty until proven innocent, is one example. 'Teach men to not rape' is another. Now consider tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 05:05 PM
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Saw this article today. I like how effortlessly one can dismantle her entire edifice of shitty arguments with one well-placed word swap. Militant feminists are a silly bunch.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/14 10:49 AM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 04:09 PM
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Right up until the point you move in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:09 PM
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I believe biology is an important part of the puzzle of life that gets shit on most of the time by various groups with agendas. Kind an over-reaction the supreme emphasis on biology that was used to justify slavery and the Nazis, etc. Most people nowadays fall into the opposite mistake of understating the importance of biology. They are hyper defensive, and interpret any acknowledgement of the influence of biology as 'reducing' people to mere biology, when in fact, it's often simply an attempt t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 09:45 AM
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Perfect relationship in a perfect world, hmm. It'd be us vs the world. We fought together, bled together, have had each other's backs through hard times and good. We don't give a shit about anyone except each other. Maybe 1-2 close friends and that's it. I want a woman who wants to degrade me, the way I wanna degrade her. Who wants to own and possess me like I wanna own her. Who's fiercely jealous the way I'm fiercely jealous. I want a woman who, half the time, will be evil, and hateful, and lus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 05:01 AM
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What is the reasoning behind this? If you have a tough time understanding it from the TRP perspective, just ask any 20something female who can't stop yapping about the joys of "travel", "seeing the world" and "meeting new people".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 04:36 AM
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The point is to work hard enough and be a good enough man that it wouldn't be "sacrificing it all". Easy solution to this problem is not to think with your dick and knock up a woman before screening her for life partner potential. If you already did that, you now have to do the work of correcting your mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 10:38 AM
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Here's the thing, as a guy, I would do the same thing. I sure wouldn't. But then, taking senseless risks and getting in strangers cars in general, was not a formula for "adventure" in many of the places I've lived. High-end cars can be stolen, as can your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 08:18 AM
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I dont have any praise for single fathers. If you arent a widower you fucked up. Even if a widower, you're fucking up by not acquiring a new mother for your kids. I realize the pool of women actually worthy of mothering children has shrunk, but there is still plenty of quality out there. If you have kids, you have an obligation to bring that quality into your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 08:16 AM
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The question itself is nonsensical. Strategy makes no claims as to morality / value, it's about efficacy in a variety of contexts. Making moral judgements is not within the purview of strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 10:18 PM
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In the context of TRP, that means getting your dick wet (short term goal) and turning a woman into a submissive housewive (long term goal). It tells you to assert your dominance as a male (greater value) by sacrificing the emotional and economic wellbeing of women (lesser values). Those are actually two separate and, to an extent, conflicting goals -- pursuing plates, and pursuing a wife. TRP does not tell its users which is the more valuable goal, it simply seeks to assist men whatever their go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 10:13 PM
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If there is, it isn't because TRP says there is. TRP is strategy, not morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 09:33 PM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:51 PM
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I thought hypergamy was marrying someone of higher quality than yourself. That's the classic definition yeah. Marriage as an institution isn't what it used to be, but the underlying behavior of women being more selective about men than the converse still exists. If you take issue with TRP hijacking the term, we can call it something else, like female sexual selectivity. Doesn't matter to me. If a man only seeks out "the best women" for his needs, if she's the most submissive and she's the most n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:02 PM
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So whether these benefits they got were "proportionate" or "disproportionate" is up for debate. Can we honestly say the benefits were disproportionate when the social improvements have not been the same for both genders? The problem with your analysis is there is no possible refutation. Cognitive gaps decreasing along with social gaps = hooray, they were caused by social effects all along. Cognitive gaps increasing while social gaps decrease = women are now catching up, hooray it was all social …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:33 PM
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Here's my personal take. You can't advocate for nature. It wouldn't make any sense. To have any sort of stance on nature at all is to introduce conscious human influence into the system, rendering it something other than the pure effects of nature. You can advocate for greater awareness of nature, evolution biology etc. But it doesn't make much sense to say, I want to take action and make these natural processes even more natural because the fact that you are making a conscious effort to impact …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:28 PM
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I hate to say it, but is this really about avoiding housework? I know how some guys are. When, it started to become clear that household duties would need to be split, you came up with a 'movement' to weasel out. Studies show that having a more gender traditional division of chores correlates with more sex. You're here saying one thing, the vaginas in this study are saying something different. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doing-household-chores-may-mean-less-sex-for-married-men/ I'm sure you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:19 PM
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I don't think that women are inferior. Different, certainly. I guess their sense of morals, virtue, achievement etc doesn't quite line up with men, which can lead to a lot of... friction... but it doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong. Eh. Most of your post is straw TRP based on the most alarmist/bitter statements to be found there. If constructing a catch 22 on the basis of that makes you feel better, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:16 PM
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It has yet to happen, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:10 PM
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I think many guys think it's purely "cultural norms" and women "being lazy," but what if that immediate drive to drop everything you're doing and approach someone who you don't know for purely sexual (or romantic) reasons is simply put, higher for men? You're getting warmer. Now start thinking about the broader implications of what you just wrote. If women are more sexually selective than men, then they are indeed hypergamous relative to men. Ie, a disproportionate amount of women will be compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:06 PM
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Begging the question. Your post title assumes a value system wherein one person can be inherently superior to another, but that's by no means what is being conveyed by those terms. Id argue that being alpha is superior to being beta according to most moral/value systems including the ones id use, but there's a difference between the value in a set of behavioral traits, and the value of an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 08:58 PM
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I get that that's your blue pill talking point that you decided to use in this instance. I just don't see how it relates to what I wrote. If you don't give a shit, because you're basically just trolling, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 11:05 PM
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Sure. Could be that in some situations. Doesn't take away from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 09:58 PM
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Yes my wife threw up heavy LMR when we first started hooking up. Maybe the first 5 times. She had constructed this whole weird narrative in her head about me 'swaying' her from her ex, who she'd just broken up with. Apparently the whole process of me pushing through those token boundaries and nos was a huge turn on. To be frank, only the asian girls I've been with do this. White chicks are always either being all shy and quiet (back in high school anyway) or enthusiastic consent. I think part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:09 AM
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Feminism does not stop men from getting laid. Again, individual responsibility. If a man doesn't get the sex he needs cause of some bs idealogy he has no one but himself to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:45 AM
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When you're constantly playing the victim it's hard to be an agent. Cause yknow. Everything is someone else's fault. Actually this is a trend not just among women. The whole social justice movement is exacerbating it. Basically people believe less and less in individual responsibility and agency, and more that big social forces (Society, the patriarchy, capitalism, etc) are responsible for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:37 PM
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My wife said the word "no" about 100 times the first time we had sex. Woke me up the next morning for round 2+3. I later learned she had just gotten out of a relationship and was trying to take things slow. My not taking no for an answer was apparently quite hot. Some chicks really do get off on playing games with consent. And not just in a pre arranged s and m way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:27 PM
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TL;DR why is it that TRP tells women to lower their standards if they want to find a man, but never tells men to be more realistic about only dating teenage 9s? Smv. That's basically the answer to your question. If you are a fat lazy slob of course there is no way you'll be landing a 9. The point is to become a 9 yourself if that is what you want to bang. That's the key difference here - there are many women who want a 9, but are a 6, but do fucking nothing to improve or bring more to the table.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:12 PM
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Ugh this is annoying. A woman can go on and on about how she's had bad experiences with men, and the stats say men are violent and that's why she gets to treat us like potential rapists. I could easily do the same thing with black people. Lived in the hood for a long time, was assaulted and had people try to rob me, was held up at gunpoint, harassed on the street, etc. Always by a black person. I don't look at black people different and I don't make some wishy washy post about how woe is me, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:11 AM
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I feel this is a false dichotomy (you either have had trouble getting sex and are at TRP or you haven't and aren't) TRP is not a tool for losing ones virginity (though it can help with that). Some who go there were burned by women in the past. Other are already getting laid but just want to improve their sexual options. I assume there are plenty like me about who are married and want to move it to a more traditional frame. Sprinkle in some mgtow or men's rights types and yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:47 AM
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Eh. Your perspective is too "gamey" for me. I don't like "fake it til you make it" and I don't like psyching yourself up, yeah they might work, but what a man really needs is confidence based on truth. Knowing that I can go out and with a reasonable effort, find an attractive woman to hook up with -- that is real confidence. Have real tangible assets, be in shape, be good socially, have a network of friends you aren't embarrassed to be around, have experience and previous success with women. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:27 AM
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Some random thoughts. Bad writing. Twilight for adults. Doesn't say as much about female sexuality as it does about human stupidity and pop culture trends. Will not watch trailer. On the other hand, at least these people are (were...) fucking reading a book. A godawful book, but at least it's a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:58 AM
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So how did it come to be that this advice got blended with anti-feminism, decrying the crumbling western society, opinions about women in the sciences, the military, and politics, and so many other controversial ideologies? Anti feminism was where you had a point, the rest is reaching. I think you are mistaking trends among the user base with an actual set policy among the mods or some shit. TRP is anti feminist out of necessity, most of our ideas are in direct conflict with those of modern femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:50 AM
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There's a certain formula I'd like to advance here, and see if you agree: extremely open-ended question + extremely broad/complex topic = extremely low likelihood of productive discussion. Parenthood and its related cultural mores/legal trappings is a topic which could merit its own entire field of research. Asking in a reddit topic 'well guys like...... whats the best way to do it' isn't likely to cause that entire field of research into existence to spring into existence. It's like asking 'wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:42 AM
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First off id like independent confirmation of the threats by a reliable third source. I don't think that's an unreasonable request in a world the political realities of which routinely give rise to women fabricating threats against themselves to further their own agenda. Second off, violence / threats of violence are hardly unique to women. Men are the primary victims of violence, both sexual and otherwise. Nothing in this opinionated piece or the OP it inspired really contradicts that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 07:04 AM
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So in other words, may as well chop his dick off now and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 10:05 AM
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Thanks man, I needed that laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 10:01 AM
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I have thought about this carefully. Yes, I would stop. I'd try to balance it out and get enough in to still feel stronger than the average dude, but if it came down to attractive vs strong, it's better to be attractive. In a way, it's stronger to be attractive -- attractiveness combined with social adeptness is to our modern era what muscles were for most of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 08:39 AM
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Who the fuck rejects their SO 25/28 times? Lol. They've also only had sex 2 times in a 1.5 month period... and this woman expects some form of sympathy from me? double lol. To be fair, the husband emailing her through her work email is a bitch move, and indicative of general weakness on his part. I can sympathize more on the fact that he made a spreadsheet though, because y'know, gaslighting. She'll just move on to the next move in the sex-denying-wife's arsenal though... the man should nope the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 08:31 AM
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I dunno, I don't think that's how feminism, or political groups in general, really operate. They aren't all just sitting around openly going "muahaha women will become supreme over all teh men" any more than the Patriarchy is an actual faction with monthly meetings. Politics is a highly evolved game. To win, you need mass appeal. To have mass appeal, you can't be openly evil/power hungry, but rather have to portray yourself as fighting for a noble cause, helping the downtrodden reclaim their rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 01:10 PM
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You're an interesting person. Having lived on both sides, what's your perspective on gender roles? Between men and women, who has it harder, and in what areas?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:50 PM
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Prolly has a more male than female brain, biologically speaking. This guy's ok by me!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:48 PM
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in the film that...gender roles...might be a red pill/blue pill type thing? Seems like a two-edged argument to me. Trans people make a conscious choice to embrace a...gender role...they find suits them better. There's evidence for biology causing this dissonance between one's apparent physical gender and preferred gender identity to begin with. So, trans people are hardly a refutation of TRP, and could even be seen as reinforcing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 04:26 AM
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I would love to meet this hamster's poor whipped husband face to face and get his perspective on all the bullshit she writes, preferably over a few beers.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 12:25 PM
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What percentage would it take to make my opinions valid? In any case, "fitting the description" is not exactly scientific terminology, but I will try to answer regardless. There are a lot of decent women out there. Religious chicks. Women in small towns and rural areas. First or 2nd gen immigrants. These just tend to be less visible because, lets face it, most TRPers are urban/college guys. Why? Because these are the guys most likely to encounter slutty/hypergamous/untrustworthy women, the likes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:12 PM
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That's the thing about innovation, when things work, people use them. And not always for morally pristine purposes. I don't agree with guys who take vulnerable women who've done no wrong and fuck them over because AWALT brah. At the same time, I'm not gonna censor them. Once we start down that path, the feminists and concern trolls smell blood in the water and come pouring in to dismantle the entire TRP lexicon and neuter the entire place. Fuck that. Let each man decide where he stands for himse…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 09:14 AM
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I agreed with most of your post, but where it breaks down for me is the assumption that what guy #3 is doing is clear cut morally wrong. World of difference between serving someone poison and giving them what they find attractive, even if they also occasionally find it frustrating or nerve wracking or whatever the case may be. I mean, you can agree or disagree, but the premise this TRPer would be operating under is that women actually enjoy men who are aloof and emotionally unavailable, regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 09:01 AM
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Again, I can't see how to answer your question without potentially ruining some random woman's life. Maybe you could rephrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 07:36 AM
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Are you asking me to doxx someone? I would rather not "prove" the actions of some random arbitrary unsuspecting woman to an internet site rife with trolls, radfems and other saboteurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 07:30 AM
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I think there's a danger of reading too deeply into AFT and minimizing the impact of dimorphism. Nevertheless, I think it's on to something -- I think most men are looking for a great, stable LTR and would prefer it to a string of hookups, and I think women would ideally like that as well. That said, the threshold for men being willing to fuck around and have casual sex is a lot lower. It's really complicated shit, here, because of the effects of the sexual marketplace and not being able to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:24 AM
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Date sluts, marry unicorns, right? It's practically the same thing as "date bad boys, marry nice guys", or alpha fux, beta bux in TRP speak. What gives? Just fighting fire with fire, my friend. They drew first blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:14 AM
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Enter TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:13 AM
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Good theory. But just to get a clearer picture of whether recieving all that attention is actually all that bad, we should go out and ask the fat ugly dudes who're being approached for casual sex what their opinion is. We'd just have to find a few first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:09 AM
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I think there's a lot of projecting going on there too. Not every woman rejects mature, healthy relationships when they're younger. Solid point. Some post wall hag who's been fucked out by 30 cocks has a hell of an incentive to spread the belief that what she did isn't all that bad. Or hell, maybe even a good thing! Y'know, empowerment and all that jazz. And also, helping to create more sluts will mean she has plenty of company, so that her sluttiness doesn't stick out so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:05 AM
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There aren't many attractive good guys, though. Most guys that are physically attractive realize that they're physically attractive and exploit it. Would you say the converse is true? Ie, that most of the attractive women exploit their attractiveness, thus creating a situation where men who want to date attractive women must have a system for dealing with potentially exploitative individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 01:59 AM
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I'm not crazy about the terms alpha and beta, but I'll bite. Alpha and beta were once just part of some guy's pet theory about how humans kind of act like canines, with packs and heirarchies. Over time, the usage become much less precise, sometimes roughly equivalent with 'guy who controls women' vs 'guy walked over and used by women', or 'dominant' vs 'submissive', or 'strong, admirable guy' vs 'simpering cuckold' or even just 'cool' vs 'uncool'. Because the terms kind of evolved out of their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 07:02 AM
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I don't really buy idealogies. Morals, I can kinda get behind. Standards, sure. But idealogies are these bloated, complex, often self contradictory systems of thought that aren't good for much other than creating more adherents and, perhaps, serving the interests of a few at the top. They are memetic viruses, perpetuating themselves at the expense of their hosts, creating in-groups hostile to all outsiders, etc. You have described the problem yourself, in a roundabout way, with your anecdotes ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 06:24 AM
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This OP looks like an invitation to prove how "entitled" I think I am. But I'll bite. Here's the truth. I put a lot of effort into my relationship and I expect a similar level of effort in return. I keep myself fit, work hard at my job, bring home money and enable my wife to live in the style she's accustomed to. I cater to her emotional needs, fuck her well whenever she asks, fix the car/house, etc... But ultimately, who gives a fuck? Do blue pillers care about any of this? Do they think I dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 02:19 PM
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Please stop trying to be clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 02:08 PM
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I'm none too familiar with neo Nazis, but I'm sure there are a few reasonable individuals among them, just as with any group. They don't suddenly become subhuman just for having views you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:28 AM
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Not sure how it's painting men as bad? Being sexually undesirable to one's SO is a bad thing. Also, I find your scenario kind of plays into the whole, women as deciders, stereotype. The guys are all eager to please, the women barely deign to get with them and then sigh with dissatisfaction, being continually "chased" by a male they barely have interest in forever more. Might not be the most flattering picture for either side, both are losers, but one, the supplicant, is losing harder. Not sure h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:26 AM
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...because TRP seems to be trying very hard to completely ignore the possibility that the actions of a man could lead a woman to initiate a divorce. I think it's the other way around. It is quite rare to see a blue piller talking about why women might be in the wrong, but they seem to be loaded with statistics and speculation about male infidelity, violence, and so on. Plenty are, it's just never relevant to what they're saying in reaction to TRP Like I said, if you have some set of reasons you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:18 AM
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Precisely my point. Why should I take blue pillers' egalitarian stance seriously if they are just going to be the "anti-male" version of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:13 AM
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What do you mean 'put up with?' They're both positives. The clingier they are, the more relative power you have. Anyway, I'm simply pointing out that what women feel they should give men more of, will not always line up with what men actually want. Men should have some input. Sorry if that offends you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 12:06 AM
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I felt as a man, I should have some input on what women should be giving men more of. Other than that, I didn't have much input, as you seem to have actually answered the questions with a minimum of equivocation. Have a u/shiv gold star!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:49 PM
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What were you claiming by linking that study, though? Help me to understand. Some other blue pillers here are insisting that the only reason, that negative "theories" were being put forth about men, linking us to abuse and cheating and yada yada, is to counter the TRP theories about women being at fault, and give us some food for thought. Sort of saying "hey, if you think women are bad based on X evidence, then you should also think men are bad based on Y evidence." Not because you actually beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:32 PM
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I believe you're idealizing what's actually happening. You yourself, in the post about divorce, put together an original theory about why women are often saddled with a man they "weren't all that into sexually to begin with." Not the most negative BP theory (nor the most flattering, either) as relates to men, but there are certainly worse ones to be found in the comments in that post -- or any similar post. Do the authors, after stating things like "men are simply more likely to abuse and cheat"…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:30 PM
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Let me redirect you to the clarification I already made: It's not painting an entire gender based solely on what's found between their legs. Ok, fair point. Let me get away from the hypothetical "maybe AWALT" and back to the concrete. What exactly is the line between a good generalization and a bad one here? I see two groups of people here, red and blue. Red is making generalizations that tend to place women at fault for divorce (they are the prime initiators after all) while for the blue side, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:08 PM
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I disagree. I feel it is more the other way around, where TRP is posting an example of something that might reflect poorly on women, and blue pillers leap at the chance to deny any possibility of that. None of the blue pillers I mentioned went 'hmmmm maybe women are doing X wrong, and that's why the divorces are happening here' despite the relatively neutral tone of the OP. As I stated in my OP, it is difficult to take seriously someone who, in response to some widespread issue, says 'it could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 11:55 AM
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That's fine. Not every blue piller posts about how men are more likely to cheat, abuse, and exploit women as a "rebuttal" of redpill observations about, say, women initiating divorce. I'm mostly looking to engage the ones who do/did. If your views place you outside the spectrum where responding to my post would be relevant, feel free to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 11:50 AM
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Bit disappointed here, Gridrexx. I may not agree with most of your comments but they usually have some meat to them. In this case you're doing a one-word restating of a nitpick that me and the person I'm responding to have already gotten past...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 11:45 AM
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Well when the only choices are 'women's fault' or 'men's fault', a group that's made of mostly women is bound to get defensive, just as men would if the situation were reversed. I think this is the most accurate description of what's going on in that thread thusfar, at least from a psychological standpoint. Though I do think your characterization of the 'only choices' presented by the post in question, is somewhat off. The OP mentioned TRP's stance, then posited a sort of 'third option' between …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 11:09 AM
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I believe the media industry that is responsible for promoting a specific acceptable appearance is highly influenced by male ideals, not female ones. Maybe cause these women want to attract men. Thus reflecting a personal choice on their part, rather than manipulation on the part of these wily patriarchs. Which is backed up by the fact that if they truly felt victimized by this male media patriarchy conspiracy, they could simply vote with their wallets and stop buying/using the offending media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 10:59 AM
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In other news, 10 foot pole sales among blue pillers hit an all time low...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 05:22 AM
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Respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 05:08 AM
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I'd ideally like to get both. Just don't want "blowjobs" to be left out, if we're compiling a list of things women should give men more of. If you don't agree, that's fine. More for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 04:58 AM
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Actually this is fairly close to the truth. A lot of the more extreme statements at TRP, particularly by new posters, are primarily motivated by anger and should be taken with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 04:48 AM
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It's not painting an entire gender based solely on what's found between their legs. Ok, fair point. Let me get away from the hypothetical "maybe AWALT" and back to the concrete. What exactly is the line between a good generalization and a bad one here? I see two groups of people here, red and blue. Red is making generalizations that tend to place women at fault for divorce (they are the prime initiators after all) while for the blue side, their generalizations tend to place the blame on men, poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 04:15 AM
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Solid answer. I agree with a lot of this. Well, substitute blowjobs for "emotional validation". I also agree that whole dieting/promoting thinness thing is definitely something women are responsible for - and rightly so. Nothing worse than a morbidly obese hambeast. And ofc nothing wrong with a little clingness/emotional dependency, so long as it translates into lots of, again, blowjobs. But other than that, agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 04:02 AM
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Blame on both sides. How refreshing. I can definitely agree with that. Strikes me as much more sensible than "blame on neither side". I tip my fedora to you, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:31 AM
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When TRP moves the goalposts by presenting a generalized false dichotomy, of course some blue pillers are going to overkick to compensate. That's an interesting metaphor. Not sure I fully understand it. Would you mind distilling it for me? For clarity's sake. I'm not a soccer player, btw. Perhaps you and I share similar views on the actions of this "small subset." Not so small imo, but you can feel free to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:29 AM
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Then do you have any problem with any of the comments from blue pill posters in that divorce post? Or more generally? I do not want to single anyone out, but I see quite a few concerning the negative behavior of men, exclusively, and implying that these are the cause of the problem, with no mention of any similar faults on the part of women. If you insist, I can link to specific posts but I'd like to avoid it if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:19 AM
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Thanks for the anecdote. I assume you are blue pill, yes? What's your general stance on most divorces being filed by women? If I may hazard a guess, would your stance be that we can't draw any conclusions from that stat and that every situation is different?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:15 AM
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Also that bridezilla stuff. There's just no excuse Amen. Thanks for the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:05 AM
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I'm glad that replaced #KillAllPeople... That seemed kinda messed up. Hey, at least it's equal treatment. not the equal treatment they'd like, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:04 AM
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There was a lot of 'even if the woman initiates the divorce, it could be because of the husband's actions' I'm simply asking what makes that ok. My line of questioning was intended to show that it is not merely the fact that these statements are conjectural, and you seem to have acknowledged that. There was a lot of 'even if the woman initiates the divorce, it could be because of the husband's actions' Yes there is. My question would then be: why do blue pillers rarely, if ever make similar stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:01 AM
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Ok. Would you then say that there is more incentive for a woman to get divorced in the first place? Say, because divorce is financially advantageous to her? Because, if the incentives are equal, then "deliberately passing the cost onto the woman" does not make a lot of sense, as both parties to the marriage should face the exact same cost/benefit analysis when deciding when to get divorced, thus creating a stalemate situation where "stalling" provides no benefit to either party.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:56 AM
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Interesting. Appreciate the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:51 AM
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Alright, but isn't there something just a little off about this answer? If Trp said "maybe all women are manipulative, hypergamous and overgrown children" would you be ok with that? I doubt it. So why is all this... speculation... from the blue pill side, perfectly fine? And furthermore, why are they always focused on the (hypothetical or not) negative behavior of men, rather than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:49 AM
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Thanks, this is what I was looking for. Are you red blue or neither? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:39 AM
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Why is white rights insane if women's rights, african-american rights, etc. are perfectly acceptable? The OP may well be a troll conducting some kind of false flag operation, but idgaf. I'm surprised how many people are seem offended by the very notion that the words "white" and "rights" should be in such close proximity to each other. White people have rights too, and should be able to take steps to secure them just as every other group does. I'm not even white, but all this reverse racism and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 03:05 AM
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Would this invalidate the idea that the personality differences between people of each gender is completely down to sexual dimorphism? Why or why not? You did not adequately describe your hypothetical to the point where answering this would be possible. Specifically, you did not mention whether the transfer process would preserve psychological differences originating from sexual dimorphism. Actually, the fact that the nature of this hypothetical transfer process, which you alone are responsible …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 02:52 AM
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Thats what im getting at...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 02:12 AM
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Most terpers (I don't mean that word derogatorily) have become so jaded, so soaked in their own pessimism towards women, that they simply assume all women do not deserve respect. They assume that all women are hypergamous, slutty, irrational, emotional, etc. until she proves otherwise. Well, let's stop and ask why do you believe all that about TRPers? I'll tell you why -- because the evidence of your own eyes tells you that this is indeed the case. Perhaps you will give individual TRPers the ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/14 07:33 AM
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Ok. How about a counter example? Can you give me some examples of cultural expectations placed on men that are not toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/14 06:19 AM
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So, just to make sure I understand you right -- the expectations are only toxic if there are negative consequences for not living up to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 11:13 AM
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Well, I'm glad you're consistent at least. But a question arises, isn't all masculinity toxic by your definition? And femininity, for that matter. Seems that anything perceived as masculine/feminine necessarily becomes a cultural expectation associated with that gender. As well, any type of human behavior can potentially work to the detriment of the individual. Please correct me if I haven't understood you properly but it seems to me that this is the logical consequence of all you've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 06:44 AM
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Hm. So "omg she's such a slut, you should've seen her at Christie's party" is toxic, but when two chicks are like "alright sh1v, blowjob contest, you tell us who's better" that's not toxic femininity then. So long as we're clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 05:35 AM
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Would cultural expectations like "real men put a ring on it" and "real men stick around and raise their kids even if it turns out they're not really theirs" also count?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 03:43 AM
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Why is competing over a man toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 03:38 AM
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So what's a good system for achieving it?? Just kidding. I do think we're at an impasse though. For me, for a phrase like 'treat X like a person' to mean something it has to ... well...... mean something. And if it doesn't mean anything specific then it, well, doesn't. Maybe we should just agree to live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 04:29 AM
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Well those aren't exactly metaphors, they're statements of fact, or at least attempts at such. I wouldn't really disagree that men don't raise kids as well as women. Some men do a bang up job. Men aren't exactly BAD at it as whole, but I do believe that mothers have a special bond with their children that a father cannot quite match. So if a woman said "men aren't like male seahorses, more like detached lions who eat other lions young and don't do shit around the house" I wouldn't really be offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 04:25 AM
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Idk, but I love doing things for my SO, pleasing him sexually, giving him little gifts and seeing him as happy as possible. You're ok with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 04:18 AM
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Ok. Thanks for fishing that out for me. Kind of short on time, so I can't read every chain in here. I don't doubt that catcalling CAN be threatening, if done too aggressively, or in the middle of a dark empty street or some shit, and that no one really likes to be threatened. You have my agreement there. But is that always how it goes down? Or even, most of the time? I don't really buy that. I think a large part of the objections to catcalling is that it is irksome, objectifying, and other shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 04:07 AM
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I'm certain you have more reasons, but I can't respond to them until you actually say them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 09:24 PM
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I've definitely seen those metaphors more than once, but uh... I guess I don't really see what's wrong with them? If a chick says, 'that guy is a stallion' or 'my husband fucks like a rabbit' or 'asking guys for fashion advice is like asking a fish to climb a tree' I'm not going to get all offended. I generally treat women the same way I treat men. They're not a separate species, we're way more alike than we are different. But we ARE different, yes? I mean, if they're not exactly the same, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 09:22 PM
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Is that the only reason it's wrong? Rules out a lot of women for me, but I have some asian friends who're right in the money height/weight zone for ass grabbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 09:15 PM
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Yeah, this is basically what my post was about. The "treat people like human beings" I'm talking about is blue pillers giving dating advice, not advice on how to avoid being a human trafficker.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 09:11 PM
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Not sure why this is directed at women specifically though. Basically because I'm responding to what blue pillers often say in response to a red piller discussing how to behave with women. That aside, I do feel your response was pretty comprehensive. Some initial questions for you. I see your definition as consisting of two parts: 1) treat people like individuals with their own thoughts, feelings etc. 2) treating people with respect, ie, how I'd like to be treated. However, I see these two point…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 09:01 PM
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Not sure if you're agreeing with me or...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 08:36 PM
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I was actually gonna use this example lol. But didn't wanna trigger anyone. Dat rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 11:03 AM
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Interesting point. Perhaps I am an example of the biases of which you speak, because naturally, my first question is how to systematize "treat 'em like human beings" or "just make sure you empathize!" I mean, if there aren't actually any concrete rules for what constitutes those things, then... like... what does it even mean to tell someone they aren't doing them right? Help an engibro out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 11:01 AM
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That's a nice rule of thumb for basic social interactions. I do think though, that there are swaths of the population with different ideas, both on how they'd like to be treated, and how they want to treat others. Very simplistic example. Catcalling. Chicks hate it. But the guys doing it -- would they mind if a chick, or gaggle of chicks was shouting compliments about their body? Probably not. They are acting roughly in accordance with the principle "treat others how you would like to be treated…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 07:00 AM
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I had a tough time processing all this shit initially too. But results are results. Sometimes treating someone with decency and respect just doesn't do it for them. How rare is that? Is it AWALT or just the women I've stumbled upon? I dunno. Doesn't seem to matter, this is what I have to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 05:44 AM
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Nope. Not with me, at least. We have different things we want from each other, different things we appreciate and respond to. That's kind of the whole point of what I just wrote. When I treat her as if she wants all the same things I want, the relationship does not work as smoothly. Blue pillers seem unable to compute this, except by somehow processing it as a personal failing on my part. Feel free to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 04:53 AM
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You want a love letter. This isn't a love letter. It's an arrangement letter. Doesn't seem like she wants to get married, but alas it's the early 20th century and that's just a cultural expectation. You asked if this was an outlook on marriage we could agree on, and alas, I cannot. Contractual agreements are rather unfulfilling to begin with, let alone when the other person seems hell bent on telling you all the shit you're going to be putting up with, whereas whatever compensation you'll be get…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 02:19 AM
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Maybe they are happier being a BP beta male rather then a RP alpha male. This could well be the case. But it should be pretty obvious that many men are NOT happy with that state of affairs, hence TRP's existence... and hence the anger of many new members who are quick to disown and condemn their former BP ways. It is the newly initiated who tend to "beta-shame" the hardest, as they're trying to distance themselves psychologically from their former identities. Personally, I have nothing against t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 07:10 AM
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Within your value system, is it acceptable to lie to or intentionally mislead people in order to sleep with or start a relationship with them? Gonna lean towards no. The exception would be if they are clearly trying to use or exploit you, in which case turnabout becomes fair play. A gold digger attempting to spermjack a celeb or fuck her way into some industry at the expense of less-slutty peers, who gets bamboozled into sleeping with a PUA operating under a throwaway alias, will get no sympathy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 07:03 AM
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If I had to distill it to a single soundbite: Men and women are not the same. That was the key that helped me sort out a lot of relationship issues. I had this idea that people are mostly the same and you shouldnt treat women all that differently from men. Just give everyone, regardless of whats between their legs the same basic courtesy and respect, treat them like rational beings capable of making adult decisions and so on. If only reality were that simple. I look back at previous relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 06:49 AM
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I dont think the guys advising men to move on if sex hasnt happened by the second date, are the same guys advising men to seek virgins for LTRs. Two distinct sets of goals at play there. Some men seek quantity, others seek quality. No sense lumping them all together as one monolithic entity in order to create straw-hypocrisy where in reality there is none.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 06:30 AM
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I find nothing really revelatory here. The more power someone has, the more likely they are to exercise it to the detriment of others. Slut-shaming happens to be one of woman's tried and true methods for doing so. Perhaps the submission of this article is supposed to imply something about the various TRP strategies and wisdom concerning sluts; if so, the connection is tenuous. There's a world of difference between observing and analyzing sluttitude, and the reflexive bitchy unreflected-upon snip…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 05:53 AM
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Dude how high are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 05:49 AM
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I hesitate to judge a relationship on the basis of one private correspondence, but since that seems to be the point of this thread, I'll indulge. The tone is frankly annoying. I don't need a laundry list of things you demand, can't stand, don't want and refuse to give, followed by an extremely short and vague list of things you have to offer -- maybe -- if you feel like it. I'm sure many would laud such sentiments as empowered, "refreshingly honest" or whatever you want to call it. To each his o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 05:44 AM
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This is scarcely different from the debate that rages over any system of beliefs, theories, morals, etc. Similar arguments crop up here all the time along the lines of "that's not REAL feminism" or "that's not what real feminists think, that's a strawman!" And if you go someplace else you'll be sure to find "that's not REAL liberalism!" or "that's not TRUE conservatism!" Any group of people who talk about ideas is going to have its extremists, moderates, and inner conflicts. As well as having cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 11:44 AM
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If other guys are better equipped with seduction and lifting skills , won't there be more competition in the field? That's been up for debate, lol. Or are you being generous and altruistic to all the BPlosers out there? To all the other men out there.* Most human beings have some degree of empathy. TRP is no exclusion. We simply do a better job of examining whether using it will lead to good times or frustration for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 11:31 AM
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Is it a mainstream Red Pill position that women (or men) should ideally be pushed or forced to behave according to their gender role, or that those who don't should be ostracised to keep this from happening? First off, equating the use of force with social pressure is ridiculous. Apples and oranges. Second, what social systems should ideally exist are no part of TRP. TRP is an adaptation to the social systems we already have. Among contributors, there may be some element of pining for the good o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 11:27 AM
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It confers an extraordinary amount of social status and authority. Over your immediate family yes (if sufficiently RP). Outside of your own household, idk mate. Seems any authority/status you have is a result of your career or the people you're rolling with. Any retard can knock someone up. Raising someone else's kid is somewhat neutral to me. Doesn't automatically earn my disrespect, unless it's a result of cuckoldry. Doesn't make me think the person is necessarily a stand up guy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 11:17 AM
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Oh shit. Faith in TRP wavering... wavering... ohfuckohfuck... Phew. It held. close one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 12:02 PM
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When nice guys, male feminists and STEM nerds are drowning in hot, young quality pussy, I will seriously consider becoming anti-TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 08:14 AM
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What I want to know is even if I stop certain negative behaviours is it possible for me to ever be "quality" by RP standards. I still dunno how sincere you are, but I'll respond as if you were. First off, accept that negative behaviors are in fact, negative. You said you cheated on a dude? That's fucked up. Spend some time meditating on why you did that. Work to become a person who would never do anything like that to the person they're with. Practice having integrity and empathy. Second off, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 08:04 AM
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This isn't how self improvement works. Without knowing what your actual goals are, it's impossible to give cogent advice. If you're just trying to make a point and don't actually have any goals or failings you wish to improve upon, then come up with a hypothetical example of a woman who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 05:25 AM
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I find the blue pill stance on this issue hard to take seriously. They simultaneously hasten to assert that the Wall does not exist/is a fantasy, and that it does, in fact, apply to red pill men. I likewise can't take seriously any post that presents both of those points in tandem as if trying to criticize TRP both for being too red pill, and not red pill enough. Either the Wall and SMV exist and are of consequence, or they aren't. If they don't/aren't, there is no sense in trying to make me com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 08:42 AM
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