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lol. Well anyway I found my body twin but she's not a celebrity. https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p403x403/1964900_435476856587077_182379606_n.jpg But I want my body to look like this: http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/hip-to-waist-ratio.jpg
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 09:58 PM
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I guess technically it was because she was wearing a crop top (in my opinion, that's also not a big deal at all) but this is pretty typical in our culture of shaming people for improving themselves.
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 07:01 PM
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I see what you mean! I guess I'm just not sure what my segment is. All that matters is that my SO finds me attractive, but I'd have a difficult time figuring out what "type" I am. Especially considering that technically my butt is my best feature, it's just not as big as I want it to be (i'm a pear/hourglass shape, just not an extreme pear/hourglass). So going in the other direction and embracing the high fashion runway look because my butt isn't big enough would be a bad idea since it's still t…
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 05:59 PM
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yep! I've done it in the past and did see pretty great results but it's so expensive. I wonder if there is any DIY option because I really do love it.
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 05:19 AM
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Oh, dear, never mind! Your tone came off completely different than you meant it. I got the idea that you were implying that my relationship was doomed and that my SO is some kind of saint for staying with me (I've had women basically say this to me before- the truth is we both have our separate mental issues but I don't talk about his here because it's private to him, anyway...) Anyway, now that I read it in that light it makes a LOT more sense and is way helpful. As a side-bar, what can you act…
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 05:19 AM
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I probably can't look there or I'd have an anxiety attack. LOL. I trust you though. hahha
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:30 AM
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Exercise has helped me (I should have specified I do exercise a lot- almost every day) but of course it doesn't do it for me 100%. I'm not sure if anthing ever will since OCD is something you kinda have for life. At least the genetic kind that I have. But exercise for sure helps!
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:30 AM
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Do men actually have different tastes though? I figure all of this is just biological. I've never met a man who was like "NO, her hips are too wide." I don't think hips can be too wide. (Also I don't even go near TRP for this reason anymore- I have no problem with the sub but obviously reading it can trigger anxiety attacks so it's a bad choice for me)
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:28 AM
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Hm, can you explain this in more detail? This sounds interesting.
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:27 AM
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I suppose my fear is being alone in middle-age after he leaves me for a younger, wider-hipped woman. Not sure if this sheds any light on anything, haha.
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:26 AM
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You're right. Back when I was an awkward bony teenager I wasn't nearly as concerned with my appearance. Funny how that works. Either way, this is a helpful post, thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:26 AM
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Cardio is fun! Exercise definitely helps. Not 100% but it can surely take the edge off of my anxiety.
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:26 AM
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I never considered this, but of course hearing the opposite sex's opinions is cool too. I appreciate all POVs. I should have clarified that it's not my butt specifically, more the size of my hips (not wide enough), but that's probably irrelevant at this point. Either way I appreciate your post, it's something that had not occurred to me!
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:25 AM
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We're planning our wedding now actually, haha. I thought that would make my anxiety better but it's actually made it worse- traditionally, any kind of transition does this to me (new job, new city, anything, even something great!) He's aware of my issues and generally doesn't reassure me since it reinforces them, but of course I'd love to get some methods for handling it better on my own (exercise totally helps but not 100%)
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:24 AM
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I'm a little confused about what exactly set you off to respond this way since your first post was pretty helpful and kind. You feel sorry for my SO? Great, this is really helpful to a person who is afraid of being dumped constantly. I guess my OCD makes me a pain in the ass and he should just dump me now. I'l let him know! It seems like my comparing my butt to Jen Selter's struck some kind of nerve, which I should have seen coming, but whatever. I'm aware she does a lot of strategic posing and …
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:23 AM
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Well, that's because so many people recommended squats, and I failed to say that I already do them. Obviously that's not the only thing I took out of the answers, sorry for not addressing everyone's posts in entirety. My boyfriend is very aware of the differences in women's bodies. He never criticizes mine but I have seen him criticize other women. He can tell when I gain weight (it's never a lot, and he doesn't mind) but the point is he's not oblivious. I'm confident he finds me attractive, but…
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/14 01:16 AM
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This, I'm really curious. How did that happen? Pics? LOL
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:29 PM
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Yeah, it's the hip bones not the butt. My actual butt is similar to Jen Selter's (and I'm pretty hard on myself so I'm not joking around or being delusional). It's round and big for my body size FROM THE SIDE but from the front, you can't really tell I have it. I still have a better waist hip ratio than average (I am still clearly a pear/hourglass from the front) but it' sjust not as extreme as I want it to be. I'd like to resemble Kim Kardashian or Coco. At this point the only thing getting me …
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:28 PM
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Thanks. Well another thing is that it's hard to gauge how other men see me (I don't go places where they can hit on me without SO present) so all I know is that SO finds me attractive, and my concern is that even if he does, someone else could just come along. I'm afraid that if he becomes successful, he'll drop me for someone with wider hips at his first opportunity. Yes, probably illogical! But it's a fear of mine.
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:27 PM
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Well I'm a bit afraid that men see no point of being faithful to an older woman at all (age is another one of my concerns, I feel like my life will end at 35) but in terms of hobbies, I'm a great cook (SO is pretty honest and he says I'm #2- #1 being his professional chef uncle, lol). I'm funny (I know I sound really dull here but in real life I can be really funny! ha) and I'm good in bed- trust me, I am really hard on myself in that area (not one of those girls who thinks she just has to lie t…
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:26 PM
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I should have specified that I already do a lot of lifting. It helps, but the main issue is my hips which aren't super narrow but not as wide as I want. My butt itself is really round and protruding, but this is only evident if you see me from the side- a lot of people see me from the front and probably think I have no butt. My hips were wider when I wasn't working out thanks to saddlebags and cellulite and even though I probably look better now, I miss looking so feminine. My hips/butt area are…
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:24 PM
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lol. I do squat a lot actually (and decently heavy for a woman). I get complimented on my butt a lot, and it's big at least compared to the rest of me (I would like it to be 50" but my waist is 24" so I don't think any amount of squats will make that happen. I could just gain weight, I guess, but my SO wouldn't want that). The problem is my HIPS. In fact I feel like the more I squat, and the rounder/bigger my butt gets, the smaller my hips look. I look way curvier from the side than I do from th…
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/14 06:23 PM
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I think apples can have smaller waists than hips, just not by much. Generally when apples are seriously overweight the stomach is bigger than the hips. I may be wrong though!
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 07:32 PM
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I get what you're saying. I love Game of Thrones (which I don't consider a nerd thing, like I don't think it makes me a nerd) and generally it's assumed that i just like the steamy guys and that I haven't read the books. I think many nerdy girls are for real, just not 100% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:34 PM
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Great response and interesting queries. Believe it or not, I was raised super liberal, and I was around a lot of really liberal hipstery guys who tended to overlook cooking skills or anything that seemed old-fashioned. The girls who were most popular in my high school never wore dresses, they smoked pot all the time, they cursed constantly, they were loud, they partied hard etc. I guess I've always been feminine on a mere biological level because it just didn't appeal to me. I couldn't understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:33 PM
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Unless you are consciously only doing it attract men, then you're not doing it to attract men lol. I think this mostly happens with high schoolers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:27 PM
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You'll get hate for this, but I see where you're going with this. The guys who turned me down for more masculine girls weren't particularly manly themselves. My current boyfriend is. Horses for courses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:52 AM
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Yeah, she was a tryhard who mauled my boyfriend on a few occasions so needless to say she's always on my shit-list. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 11:12 PM
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Makes sense. i don't know why it's so shocking or sexist to admit this. lol. Like I'm sure there are some genuine gamers who happen to be attractive women but to say that NO attractive woman could EVER potentially be an attention whore is obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:57 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, very thought provoking answer! As for the last thing, I should have clarified, LOL. There was one particular occasion in which he complimented a notorious attention whore (who was constantly hitting on him, and he never seemed to notice- he kept saying she was just "one of the guys" so getting physical with other men was "natural" for her. BULLSHIT.) because she was getting disgustingly drunk and bragging about how much of a "guy" she was because she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:57 PM
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LOL "sewing broz" yeah, I agree with you. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt but it would be ridiculous to assume literally everyone is genuine. I'm equally frustrated with the men who white-knight like crazy every time a girl shows up on a multi-player game. The fakers only exist because there's a market for them. This is another reason why I don't fawn over guys who go all crazy criticizing how "skeletal" the VS models are in exchange for female attention. I know they're faking i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:40 PM
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Great points all around. I don't particularly hate those girls, because I'm not even into video games myself so it's hard for me to say who's coopting it and who's not. I do think it's ridiculous to say that nobody is ever faking it. Obviously some people are, just like with any sub-culture that suddenly becomes "cool". Considering my hobbies tend to be kinda solitary (cooking, writing, reading, solo fitness) I generally don't often get into arguments about people getting into those things just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:30 PM
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I mostly see it around people under the age of 21. As an adult I rarely even come across anyone who fits this trope one way or the other, considering most people I know are too busy with work to play video games anyway. But I see a lot of debates about it on the Internet, so I thought it was an interesting topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:06 PM
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Woah there, tiger. lol 1.) I never said there has never, ever been a hot gamer girl. I'm sure they exist. I've just never met one. As I said, I'm not really into that stuff, so my exposure has been limited. Actually, I specifically said I'm sure girls like that do exist, I've just never met them. 2.) I actually don't care about what's nerdy and what's not- I love Sims and Civilization but I don't consider that particularly nerdy, personally. I guess it's the difference between casual games and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:04 PM
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Oh I'm sure they all care. But like I'm sure my boyfriend would rather get a BJ or have intercourse than just go down on me. Actually I'm 100% positive about this.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 11:23 PM
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But I'm assuming he's just one wacko, as there are other guys on TRP who seem to understand that you wait longer for "good girls" and that if a girl has sex with you quickly she probably did that with other guys too. See, I specifically mentioned they're not all the same. However, I have had THE SAME guy tell me that he wouldn't be with a woman with a high #, but he also wouldn't wait more than 3 dates for sex. Not on reddit though.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 11:22 PM
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I don't like talking too much about my sex life in detail out of respect for my relationship, but I don't think my guy is like that. I don't mind it or anything since I still enjoy myself and orgasm, but yeah. I don't think he is more interested in my pleasure than his.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 08:49 PM
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Definitely, but I think porn would be equally unappealing if the man was asleep the whole time, or didn't orgasm. I even heard that they use conditioner as EXTRA c*m because people apparently want to see loads of it. go figure lol
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 08:48 PM
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Generally most people are fat- my female friends are also complaining about only getting messages from fat guys 20 years older than them (and they're not post-wall or anything). I think that the amount of attractive people on Okcupid is pretty small to begin with so logically you're just going to get more attention from unattractive people. Oh, and by the way- you being athletic would not deter a 300 lb woman. Many of the super fat women on Tumblr talk about preferring ripped/skinny guys. I also…
/r/askTRP20/03/14 08:35 PM
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they're usually bots. My female friends got all these messages from gorgeous male-model type guys the first week they joined, they were all phony.
/r/askTRP20/03/14 08:31 PM
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I'm a woman and I have admittedly given bad advice about women. Usually our advice is tainted by our pasts and our experiences...so for example, because I tend to feel like the "needier" one in my past relationships and to an extent my current relationship, I have encouraged my male friends to be very nice, forward, complimentary, etc...which is good once you're in an LTR to an extent, but obviously if you overdo it you'll look like a wimp and it's displaying low value, especially on a first dat…
/r/askTRP20/03/14 08:30 PM
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I find them so much easier than pants to be honest.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 08:02 PM
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I find this interesting as a woman who loves skirts/dresses. I would wear them every day if I could. My main problem is that after work I just want to relax in leggings, which my boyfriend doesn't seem to mind since they're tight, but I know it would be nice to surprise him with a dress at home. But anyway, yeah, I'm really over the casual/masculine fashion of women these days. I love dresses and I don't even think they're uncomfortable! I especially love 1950s-style clothing and other vintage-e…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 08:02 PM
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Well it was partially that I had a lot of male friends (who I believed were platonic, anyway) and did kiss a lot of guys as college kids will do, but rarely went any farther than that. It was stupid of course, but my issue is that a lot of these girls deliberately made up things that I "did", probably to bring me down a peg. Actually, it was common for me to meet a new guy who seemed cool until he heard from some jealous female friend of his that I had done some horrifying disgusting sexual thin…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 07:58 PM
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Interesting, good answer! I do think it depends on how both people react to the porn. Like it shouldnt' be more than a fun add-on.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 07:03 PM
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We're probably just from different circles, but I got shamed to no end in college for having slept with maybe a handful of guys (at that point, less than 5) and wearing revealing clothing (which in any other country, would just be normal feminine wear- tight dresses, some cleavage etc). I do see so many cringeworthy blog posts about how you need to sleep around before you get married (I can't stand them) so I know the kind of thing you're talking about. But I feel like most people would still ju…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 07:02 PM
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I don't think either of those things are considered widely acceptable. Taking time to "find yourself" is getting to be a mainstream thing but girls who are 25 with 100 sexual partners are still shamed by the vast majority of people. And this stuff....I can't imagine there's anyone in the world who wasn't a sociopath who would condone lying to your husband about paternity.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:39 PM
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yeah, pretty sure nobody says "you go girl!" when they find this out.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:39 PM
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lol I can't lie to my guy about anything! Maybe tiny things, but not this.
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:38 PM
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I certainly understand it! My only critique would be that if a guy wants a woman without a long sexual history, he may have to wait longer then 2 dates for sex (because if a woman has sex with every attractive guy after 2 dates, she'll rack up like 20 partners pretty quickly). I don't like the idea that if a woman sleeps with you she's a slut, and if she waits a while, she's a prude/frigid/bitch etc. I mentioned this to a RP guy on another site, and he accused me of being a frigid sexless bitch.…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:38 PM
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Yep. my guy is like this too. He loves cleaning and cooking (which is funny because I think I love cooking more than he does, but I'm just a really messy person and not good at cleaning. I'm trying to get better). I think he would admit that I'm a better cook than he is, and he cleans better than I do. I used to have a rule where if he started trying to do housework I'd make him stop and tell him to relax so I could do it, because it made me feel so masculine to see him doing housework...but hon…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:35 PM
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I don't care if my guy watches porn as long as it doesn't affect our sex life (which it doesn't). And honestly I am jumping him too often for him to even have time for it (he would have to do it at work or something). I barely masturbate as it is because I just don't have any time. I am curious to see what people think of watching porn together AS A COUPLE. I wonder if that's considered damaging or...? I don't know, I think it's a good compromise where we can bring "other girls" into the bedroom…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/14 06:33 PM
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I make my "dressing" out of just olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Most salads aren't even healthy because people go crazy with the creamy/artificial dressings, many have sugar in them. Homemade dressing is the way to go- or no dressing, and mix it up with caremalized onions and other flavor enhancers. I personally am not trying to lose weight so that's why I do the olive oil.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 11:48 PM
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I think it depends on your circle- when I was in college a girl I knew slept around after her boyfriend dumped her and her friends practically gave her an intervention! Personally, I don't care what other people are up to (provided I'm not sleeping with them) but I haven't noticed much encouragement for women to sleep around, personally. Of course I did get told "Your 20s are for 'fun' and 'experimentation'" by a few women and even a few men, but it wasn't like that was the main message I was he…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 11:47 PM
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I have straight hair too but I'm not sure it's a bad thing- my friend with super curly hair can't grow hers past the shoulders because the curl makes it harder for the oil to get down the shaft. I don't particularly like how boring my hair feels but I do like that I can grow it long and dry it quickly :)
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 11:45 PM
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That is really interesting! A lot of it makes sense to me, even if I don't specifically feel that way (I have a very "reliable, kind" partner and I am in no way unattracted to him because of it, but he's also really hot and interesting). The only area that I think might be stretching it a bit too far is the idea that men's fantasies don't focus on their own pleasure. Isn't the main event of porn always the money shot? I don't meant that men don't care about female pleasure, but I feel like women…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 11:43 PM
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to be fair, 17 year old boys are not very nice people. I cheated on a guy when I was around that age (not with sex, though) and I'm not a "cheater" by nature, it's just part of being a dumbass kid who's being selfish and immature. Not to say adults don't cheat too, just...I would not base the actions of all men off of one teenage boy! Anyway, you'll see that when it comes to cheating, men and women do it the same amount! So really, writing off men as cheaters would be silly, since women cheat ju…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 11:35 PM
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You don't actually have to tell anyone this stuff. Just keep it all private! Obviously you being a virgin might be important, but you can tell people that without having to bring up who asked you out, what other stuff you've done, etc. If anything you're in a way better situation than a woman who's slept with too many guys. I wouldn't worry. Good luck!
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 12:48 AM
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I read the whole thing and I'm not going to judge you, I'm pretty sure most people male or female have chased the wrong person despite numerous signs that it's a bad idea. First off, does this guy have a golden dick or something? Everything else about him sounds highly unattractive and annoying. But whatever, we can't always control what we want. Speaking of which, it sounds like "what he wants" are trashy tattooed single mothers, lol. Not sure why this would be his "type" or whatever (I thought…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 12:47 AM
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Preaching to the choir here! I find her extremely annoying. I think it's supposed to be satirical but a lot of people my age see it as an aspirational "it's ok to be like that!" kind of a thing.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/14 12:43 AM
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yep, my thoughts too :)
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:06 PM
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Funny story- I used to dye my hair blonde or red, I finally went back to my natural color and my SO loves it and wonders why I ever dyed it. Unless you're gray, natural is pretty good :)
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:47 PM
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Potentially off topic but I don't consider men either "alphas" or "betas". i think certain behaviors are alpha/beta and a mix of both can be successful for a relationship. At least that's what I've gathered from the MMSL blog. For a one night stand you just need pure alpha; for a relationship you do need some beta too. That's why I'm so hesitant to brand anything "beta" as inherently bad.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:35 PM
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I do the conditioner thing too. I've also been mixing moisturizer in with my foundation.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:34 PM
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Yeah, feminism has a lot of variants/subcultures. Many of them hate each other, lol.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:31 PM
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Yes and no. Many feminists still get upset over "half naked pop stars" but probably don't give a shit about half naked plus size models.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:31 PM
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I'm kind of with you...nobody needs to be harassed for choices they make that don't affect anyone else. Having said that, I'm pretty sure that if a man had done porn, he'd get his fair share of "ewwww" as well. Porn is, by its very nature, a bit icky. You can't expect to do something really icky and then expect other people not to judge it. I judge people's actions all the time, it's human. But I don't judge them as human beings if their actions didn't hurt anyone. I saw some stupid post on Tumb…
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 07:28 PM
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really?! At my college people were mugged a lot (maybe it's a rural/urban thing...muggings probably aren't as common in rape in the middle of nowhere, but in cities they are!). In fact I have some young male relatives currently in college and whenever they drink I'm worried about them getting beat up or robbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 09:16 PM
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yeah pretty much. plus men are just as likely to be mugged or otherwise assaulted when drunk as women are (if not MORE likely) so this isn't even a gendered thing. If a man got wasted, stoned and wandered around in a bad neighborhood and got his phone stolen, I'd be like...well, maybe next time he should just be more aware of his surroundings. Does that mean his robber shouldn't be brought to justice, or that he ASKED to be mugged? no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:50 PM
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Well, I was assaulted twice (one of those times, literally physically tried to fight off a person who I had zero interest in) and the other time with someone I was kind of "seeing" but who got very rough during what was originally consensual fooling around and wound up hurting me. The first thing was assault without question, the second thing I sometimes wonder if it was just a genuine misunderstanding on his part, which is one reason I never did anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:15 PM
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Hahaha nobody ever said that to me. I didn't really tell many people anyway, but usually it was "Wow, what a shit- did you report him?" There was only one person who even came close to victim-blaming (it was in a different scenario which was a lot more complicated) and basically, she said I was only feeling violated because I regretted getting involved with the guy. But honestly she may have been right. Luckily I never took it to the extent of action against him (she was a therapist who didn't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:00 PM
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Definitely not advocating saying "what did she expect" lol. But let's say a guy goes out, has 10 shots, stumbles around in an alleyway, and gets mugged. Wouldn't it be at least somewhat reasonable to say "Hey, probably not a good idea to get that wasted and stumble home alone." Like I don't think it's blaming them, it's just being realistic. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 06:42 PM
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I'm wondering what semi muslim is, but for the record I'm not advocating a legal BAN on drinking too much. I think getting wasted is dumb for men and women (men are more likely to be assaulted than women anyway, just not sexually). I don't think wearing something, or walking alone, or drinking too much should be illegal. But the point is there are bad people out there- just like muggers and murderers, it's just wise to protect yourself. I don't know why rape gets its own little lucite case of "n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 06:19 PM
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True true. I mean I think anyone has the right to reject or be interested in anyone else. I think the issue is when people get rejected and act like the person is WRONG for rejecting them. "You don't like me just because I'm a 200 lb short-haired tattooed Goth? WHAT A JERK!" Like, you can't help what you like. And if you have high physical standards you REALLY can't fault people for doing the same thing. Similarly if a woman wanted a guy with a lot of money, and then a guy with a lot of money tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 02:11 AM
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You don't spend much time on jezebel then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 10:41 PM
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for what it's worth I don't ask for sympathy. I'm aware that being turned down for sex every now and then really isn't the end of the world. I'm still doing pretty well even for a woman, so whatevs, I'm not throwing a pity party for myself. Good point about the opposite sex friendships. I have noticed some opposite sex friends where the two people were virtually disgusted by each other, and somehow hooked up if they drank enough. Alcohol is probably a more powerful sex motivator than love. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:50 PM
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Current advice to both men and women is terrible, which is one main reason I see the side of TRP. Women are told men should and will love them no matter what they do or look like (and that any guy who doesn't is an ass). The idea that anyone is less than a special perfect prize is just never covered. Men get BS "just be nice to a woman and she will like you eventually" stuff, as well as endless "respect women" stuff (honestly, you should respect everyone to some degree but women are not infallib…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:09 PM
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exactly. I was assaulted and it wouldn't have happened if people hadn't told me to drink as much as the guys, go wherever I wanted, do whatever I wanted. It still wasn't my fault or whatever, but I really wish more people had "victim blamed" me into being sensible that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:07 PM
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Well, according to normal, reasonable people, victim-blaming is saying that a person who was raped deserved it or caused it. I don't think it's victim blaming to say that a rape victim probably shouldn't have done , __ and ___, but that you still feel really sorry for what happened and there's no excuse. Feminists like to say that drinking too much is unrelated to rape and yet they also like to say having sex with any intoxicated woman IS rape. So which one is it? Obviously if a woman drinks her…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:06 PM
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Venting to women probably does make you look like a whiny bitch, although I would venture that if you are seriously involved with a woman she is THERE to take care of you and support you so showing some weakness is fine. Wouldn't do it with a girl you've just met though. I can testify that venting isn't a female trait because guys on TRP do it all the time. Not that women don't have their own share of ventapalooza, but I think letting off steam is something that applies to all genders. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:04 PM
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exactly. This is why I disagree with the "women and men cant be friends". Yes, they can, if they're both unattracted to each other. Not all men are attracted to all women! It's just easier to find someone for random sex if you are a woman, because it's less of a risk for men and by definition more men will be up for it. Women HAVE to be pickier about who they sleep with by means of biology and society. I was quite annoyed by people saying you can find literally any man to hook up with or date be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 08:48 PM
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I don't necessarily think feminism ruined anything; just that i've heard that said on TRP. I have very mixed views on feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 07:38 PM
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Well, it may be a piece of TRP but it wasn't intentional. These guys were, for all intents and purposes, very "beta". They never even out-right told me I was being clingy, it was more something I heard from other people, looking back in reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:35 PM
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I definitely don't project confidence because I'm not confident, lol. Maybe that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:33 PM
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"RP person", not TRP in general. Within every decent movement there is a wacko. I saw a woman get told it was her fault that her husband left her while she was pregnant and that she was doomed to eternal spinsterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:33 PM
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Oh is it? i thought it was the idea that feminism ruined what was once a good gender dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:32 PM
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I think I'm pretty open to active discourse. How am I not? Other than just a general "vibe". Actually I don't even disagree with most of what you say. My main point, which I guess got a bit contorted, is that logically, you can conclude you MAY be aiming too high if you always go after 9s and none of them are initially attracted to you, and then they continue to not be attracted. It would be another thing if they were initially attracted and then felt differently after knowing you. Then strategy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:11 AM
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I definitely had bfs, just that they were usually way more receptive when I pulled back a bit, and during the initial courtship I had to be careful about responding too quickly to texts. They never out right said anything about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:07 AM
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Pretty much, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:10 AM
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true true. While I do think teenagers are easy to seduce, 16 was his UPPER LIMIT (meaning his ideal was probably like 13), he refused anyone who wasn't a virgin, and also, while I may have fallen for some crappy game coming from a college guy as a teenager (or, heck, another teenager- all my exes were the geeky teenage type in high school) I don't think there are many teenage girls out there who could be gamed into sleeping with a sixty-year-old man, sheerly because most of them would find it gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 01:59 AM
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I don't think thinness/chubbiness is biological, that's a cultural thing obviously. Proportions are pretty much a constant though. Men like a relatively curvy waist (not necessarily anything cartoonish) which can happen on a thin or heavy woman. I don't think men have a tendency towards extremes. So while there might be a lot of guys, especially in the 1800s (and more today than we think) who like a girl who's a little chubby, and guys today who like svelte athletic types, there have NEVER been …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 01:52 AM
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Yes but I think it's the same with the genders reversed. TRP talks a lot about how women can't give good advice on picking up women (which 9/10 times, is true) but men also kind of suck at giving advice to women about how to get men! For example, on ROK and sometimes on TRP, guys' advice to women will be to be available, constantly complimentary, stroke your man's ego, respond immediately to all his texts. But I did exactly that for YEARS, and guys who initially found me really attractive and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 01:49 AM
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Yeah, I think the correct idea is "If you're a woman you can technically find a man to fuck you" but most likely he'll be a guy you don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 01:45 AM
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Oh, upfront is obviously way better. It's not DUPLICITOUS, I just think it's hypocritical to demand something and then get furious when other people demand the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 01:44 AM
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Yep. I always say that Lindy West is just reverse Roosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:26 AM
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As you may have noticed, I like to argue :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 11:53 PM
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Oh, yeah, I was thinking about the comments! Saw some guys in there who were probably straight-up pedophiles (wouldn't date a girl over 16, and he was in his sixties himself, and OUTRAGED that pubescent teenagers weren't interested in him) but yeah, the authors themselves, at worst, are extremists. Haven't seen any obvious racism in the articles. I guess there was one post about why white men shouldn't be bothered by black men because they date all the fat white women that white men don't want (…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 10:39 PM
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I think size is something that people vary with in taste over the course of centuries, decades, etc...but there are other things that have virtually always been considered attractive (or at least MOST of the time)- tall men with nice jawlines, good waist-hip ratio on a woman, smooth skin, long hair, etc. I def dont think people are biologically programmed to like thin people, that's more cultural...but I do think that anything appearing unhealthy (meaning severely under or overweight) we are pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 10:36 PM
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I def dont think people are shallow for that, but I do wonder about the women on Tumblr who flip out that a guy won't date them because they're fat (and they call HIM shallow) but then they abide by those same standards and only want thin muscular guys. It's just so hypocritical. But I'm aware most people aren't that irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 10:32 PM
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I agree with all this! What a cool answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 10:31 PM
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my temperment? lol. What exactly did I say that sounded so furiously angry? As for strongly insinuating, I'm not sure where I did that. I do think initial attraction is very physical for both genders, but it would be obtuse to think it's literally the only thing that matters, considering that very few women would be up for dating a solid 9 dude who has a history of raping dogs. As for the last thing, it's math. If there are 100 people in a room (50 men and 50 women) a 9 woman is probably going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 10:26 PM
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For some reason I thought you weren't gay. Didn't you mention sleeping with women? In that case I guess you'd be bisexual/pansexual/non-labeled or whatever. Actually, I wonder how ROK feels about bi guys. I guess if ROK doesn't have any articles about M-M relationships (which it doesn't) then only straight men would really have relevant comments. Still though, it's a pretty whacked-out place sometimes. Aside from excluding gay men, I have seen outwardly homophobic and racist stuff there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 09:48 PM
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I agree male only spaces are uncommon but gay people are men. TRP has been known to improve gay relationships too, so I don't see what gay people would to do ruin ROK, unless they just straight-out BP trolled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 09:40 PM
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Oh lookie here what I said in my post: |Yep, a man can fail with a woman for reasons other than hotness So yeah, I never said looks are the only reason a guy gets rejected. Or a girl for that matter. I know plenty of guys who have rejected girls for being annoying as shit, or being too dumb/boring. So at this point, we just agree. The only thing is that I think if you're a 5 (male or female) and you only go after 9s, it's a simple fact that you're going to see a lot more rejection than if you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:56 PM
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Yep, there are tons of assholes. Similarly, every single time I post on Jezebel (despite being a female) I get accused every 2 minutes of being a shitlord douche man masquerading as a woman to promote rape culture and body-shaming. In general, stay away from extremists. I actually don't spend much time on TRP for this reason, but there are RP esque blogs I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:54 PM
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those people are called assholes, and they're abundant on TRP, but it's not really the core belief of TRP. TRP attracts delusional and bitter men, but that doesn't mean they're what TRP is about. Again, this can all be flipped around, replaced with "feminism" and it would seem like a strawman to say "I hate feminists, all they do is talk about how all men are rapists."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:46 PM
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I'm not advocating the sexist stuff (although TBH the sexist stuff seems to mostly be from certain people- all TRP says is that men and women are different, nobody is inferior). As for being treated like a slab of meat, I'm not advocating that. I was under the impression that YOU were advocating that when approaching a woman it's mandatory to look past the physical, but for sex, it's really not. I don't think anyone on TRP (at least anyone legit) is arguing that you should treat women like meat.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:42 PM
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I think they do talk about employment. One thing that makes a man more attractive is making good money (a good education is a somewhat plus, but it won't make a big difference). But of course, it's a lot more difficult to devote years to your job (and maybe not even get a promotion) than to work out and work on "game", which is mostly free. TRP totally admits that money make a difference, it's just more of a long-game thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:36 PM
2

yep. I think an older woman who is still feminine, girlish and fun can do quite well with men her own age or slightly older, but the vast majority I've met have been SO disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:31 PM
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Definitely biased, lol. But everyone is. I would say feminists almost always are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:22 PM
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I don't think TRP (in general) is prejudiced. Places like ROK are, definitely (They outwardly exclude gays and women) but TRP to me is just examining how men and women can work together and understand each other. The main "controversy" is just that TRP admits that men and women are fundamentally DIFFERENT. Which we are. Of course, within TRP you will find racists and sexists but it's not directly related to what TRP teaches. Funny story though, I have dealt with red pillers who told me they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:22 PM
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Sorry, as a woman I HAVE to disagree with so much of this. TRP shouldn't be gotten rid of...things like "jerk game" might be pointless and harmful but in general, TRP is about improving yourself (including physically) and being more attractive. Your first line about "not being an ass" is basically TRP. Don't be an ass. Be confident, be charming, be funny, be masculine. As a woman I can say I'm attracted to this. That doesn't mean I'm attracted to "dark triads" or assholes, but I'm attracted to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:13 PM
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lol yeah, I used to go to bars when I was 18 (not sure how I got in) and guys in their FIFTIES would hit on me. I felt nothing but disgust, even though many of them were hot for their age and had money. I was just like "Woah, grandpa, slow down!" Now, if I were single, I'd be open to guys in their mid-30s but that's about as high as I'd go. More than 10 years and it just gets weird IMO. I do think one issue with older women is they get hard, bitter and "sassy". I know a 40 year old guy who took …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:07 PM
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Did I say I was blue pill? I'm probably fuschia- purple leaning red. Leagues totally exist. Most of the people you see dating each other are within each other's league. If you go to the mall, the hot people will be with the hot people, the average people with average people and so on, with a few exceptions. I don't think this is necessarily good- it's just the truth. Shake your head all you want, but yes...that's usually why women aren't interested in a guy who is otherwise nice to them. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:51 PM
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Well, this isn't 300 words but I found this: http://internetanthropology101.tumblr.com/post/78484722138/red-pill-101
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:29 PM
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Not every guy on TRP says this, but it is the general belief. I think most people are like children to some extent, especially men pissing and moaning over being "friendzoned" and trying to hump whatever walks, but certainly there's a female equivalent. Not suprisingly, men who act like walking humpatrons and go to clubs to pick up young dumb women are going to find women who act like children. Also, these girls (IME) tend to be drunk most of the time which makes pretty much anyone act like a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:26 PM
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The correct term is "say they are dating lots of 22 year olds." I don't buy that it's all true, or at least not as true as they say. Add 22-year-olds with 'solid 9s' like they claim and we're in the realm of complete fantasy. I'm 24, and not even a 9, and I wouldn't go near a guy who was as old as my dad unless I was some desperate gold digger and wanted someone to pay my rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:24 PM
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Totally. I mean, small quirks in your personality can be lovable but if you don't shower or shave your legs, then yeah, your prospects will be diminished (assuming you're female, although the showering thing applies for all genders). This is why I don't get the anti weight loss thing. The VAST majority of women could raise themselves to at least a 6/10 if they just got to an average weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:14 PM
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1.) Yeah, multiple rejections do suck. Been through it myself, it's a huge part of dating and normally just means you're aiming out of your league. best next step is either adjust your standards to reality, or improve yourself. 2.) True, perhaps average women have an influx too, but I used to be pretty "average" and I would go to parties, literally nobody would speak to me. Granted this was high school and I was awkward, not sure about adult life. 3.) I guess in that sense being a Nice Guy is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:13 PM
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Well, that's nice to hear (and I watched tons of Disney, actually! LOL) but it's rare for me to hear that on Reddit, so thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 06:43 PM
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Be prepared for someone to tell you that it was your fault you had those two bad relationships because you chose the wrong guy and/or drove them to that behavior. Generally, there is always some RP person who can find a way to make literally any situation the woman's fault. Having said that, I don't think your experience is that typical of American women because a great deal of it seems to be related to having cultural restrictions from your parents. Most American women have the option to choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 01:00 AM
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Yeah, I mean this whole post operates under the assumption that all relationships are useless (which is psychotic) so of COURSE no guy is going to be able to prove he's worthy of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:10 AM
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Good to see some sanity, lol. ROK also is weirdly homophobic and at times outwardly racist (and I'm not very PC at all). Once a guy on ROK got tons of upvotes for saying black women looked like apes....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:47 PM
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That's true, although when I say TRP I don't just mean reddit. I saw something on ROK (or some similar site) about how women are fundamentally disgusting (it honestly seemed quite homo-erotic, the whole thing was one long diatribe about how a woman's body made this guy throw up or something, especially the vajay-jay. Ew! vaginas!) and everyone was like "yes, thank you for liberating me from the clutches of the evil women!" But obviously, extremism. I wouldn't assume every TRP was like that, in f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:36 PM
1

I think the very very basic tenets of TRP would apply to the vast majority of people, especially heterosexuals. However, TRP is NOT a monolith and there is a lot of variation. Some guys I've seen within the "manosphere" want nothing to do with women at all, some thing women are subhuman, some thing women are great but dislike feminism, some men aren't even against feminism, they just think it's gotten too extreme. Basic things like "be confident but realistic" and "improve yourself" apply to pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:33 PM
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Actually, I find those men very sleazy....I don't think you have to be aloof to be an attractive man (negging and dread turn me off, maybe they just haven't been "done right" but I've always noticed when a guy is doing it and it makes him look kind of pathetic). I think being playfully cocky, flirtatious and charismatic is the way to go- don't be an asshole, don't be that Spanish fairy in Fairly Oddparents who's in love with Wanda.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:12 PM
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To be honest, the only 40+ men I've seen who I considered really attractive were celebrities. Granted, I'm in my 20s, but I think men tend to inflate the amount of time they have to look attractive. A man can obviously increase his SMV by having money, but that doesn't make him physically better-looking (at least not to me). It does raise his chances for finding a gold-digger, but hey, some guys want that. I do think men hit the wall later than women but like women, men get beer guts as they get…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:10 PM
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yep. I notice the wall is especially apparent for the ditzy hard-partying types whose only value to men was being young and sexually available. These women inevitably also take terrible care of themselves, and are often "social smokers" and they tan to no end every summer...in any case, it all adds up eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Sometimes I do fear I'm too dependent on my fiance, but there's obviously a decent middle ground. I do think most humans are wired for some kind of connection with another human, although I don't think it's all the same (I'm a traditional marriage person but I understand other people can really enjoy open relationships, or even just one night stands or non-sexual relationships if they're asexual...).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:56 PM
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I don't think anything is degrading if you enjoy it and go into it willingly. some sex might be degrading to women, but I've seen some sex stories on reddit that are cringe-worthy and degrading to men-- like the guy whose GF used sex as a bargaining chip, refused sex after she orgasmed (even if he hadn't orgasmed yet) refused to go down on him but demanded oral without shaving/washing at all, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:48 PM
1

I think that women being more empathetic than men isn't even a true stereotype-- I think men and women are equally solipsistic, and I think solipsism is sort of a natural part of the human condition. It may manifest differently in men/women though. Usually solipsism is conflated with narcissism on TRP, which is kind of hilarious because TRP is based entirely on being selfish and narcissistic and caring about your own pleasure and your own pleasure alone. I find that EXTREME TRP'ers are about as …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:47 PM
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Yeah, I'm a woman who's really sick of being told I'm "needy and desperate" for wanting marriage and loving my boyfriend/having sex with my boyfriend. Wow, I'm so mentally unhealthy. Why can't I just hate everyone like a stable independent womyn?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:44 PM
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yeah, purple pill woman here and it's extremely uncommon for a woman (or man for that matter) to have zero interest in romantic/sexual connections, unless they're asexual (and even then, aces do have bfs/gfs)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:43 PM
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This is one reason why TRP has a huge issue with women who make money, don't want children and don't need sex for validation. For the record I'm a more traditional woman, but it's clear that women who don't "need" men anger TRP more than anything. However I disagree that women who DO want kids/marriage are "needy". That's really ridiculous. Oh wow, I'm disagreeing with TRP and TBP. Typical for me. Anyway, in general TRP is based off selfishness and "instinct" and the men there are not concerned …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 07:42 PM
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One woman not being interested doesn't mean all (that's what I meant, at least) and I should hope people can get over dying in Super Mario! The thing though is that when a woman gets that upset over rejection (because it's only the attractive women who have a constant influx of high quality men approaching them) then she's supposedly over-emotional, self centered, her standards are too high, she's crazy etc etc. Another thing I forgot to mention is that Nice Guys think their methods are somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:21 PM
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Oh I see...true, she did. I wrote my comment before I saw her answers, many of which I strongly disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:15 PM
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Right on, I agree with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:14 PM
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The biggest mistake IMO is believing that it's easy to attract women. It's not. In fact I know hot, interesting (not jerky or wimpy) guys who are turned down all the time. I used to think it was easy before I made make friends and saw things from their perspective! Women do tend to be flaky and flighty...just sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 10:24 PM
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Huh? I actually disagree with most of what the OP said but if you really believe women are incapable of having a conversation, I feel like nobody is less capable of having a conversation than someone who refuses to acknowledge anything that an entire gender says. At least do everyone a favor and admit to being sexist, because that's pretty much the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:32 PM
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I agree with you actually, my issue isn't that they act nice to get sex (it's a strategy just like anything else) but rather that they get so angry when the woman in question isn't interested...as opposed to a guy who can say "ok, disappointed she's not interested but I'll move on" instead of feeling betrayed that a woman just wanted friendship , and then relentlessly pursuing and not just moving the hell on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:28 PM
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Silly woman. Your vagina is wired to the minds of men online, you actually have no connection to it whatsoever. You think you like attractive good-looking guys who are nice to you? Well, that's just the hamster talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 11:21 PM
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Believe it or not, TRP doesn't care AT ALL about hearing from women. Trust me on this. They believe that they know women better than women know themselves. If anything, they think you should be asking questions to a man about what you find attractive. Trust me, I've had to argue with a RP guy about what turns me on. He's like "No, you don't like that, you like THIS" and I'm thinking, wow, this guy hasn't even MET me and apparently he knows my vagina already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:09 PM
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There seems to be a general lack of morality and total disregard for other people on TRP, which is one reason I consider myself in the middle instead of full-on red pill. For example, I think men shouldn't pursue married/taken women not only because it's usually not going to work but because you're being complicit in the harm of another human being. Similarly, taking advantage of a girl's insecurities/anxieties in order to get sex obviously isn't rape or assault or anything but yes, it's immoral…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:08 PM
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Definitely not...I find lesbian porn interesting but I would never want to actually have sex with a woman. I don't think anyone would really want to be cuckholded, at least not outside of role-playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:06 PM
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Oh no, I believe phone number stories. I don't believe threesome solid 9 stories but yeah, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 08:03 PM
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I've seen some totally ludicrous stories eaten up. I usually believe things to a point but I tend not to believe the parts that could easily be exaggerated. For example 9s are really not that common and yet EVERY average looking guy on ROK and TRP are supposedly fucking 9s constantly. Even in the nightclub scene I don't even see how they're so abundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:15 PM
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This is one aspect of TRP that I don't like, and I usually agree with their stuff. Female pleasure is largely ignored (I saw something on ROK that basically said "Destroy that pussy, don't worry if she comes, she will come back if you are alpha enough even if the sex was bad") Like yeah, ok. Also saw a guy who was afraid to go down on women because "That's for betas" But anyway, I've often wondered if there is any biological reason for the female orgasm and I'm not sure if there is, much like me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:06 PM
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Ok sure, but then if he dumps you, and that happens to you again a few more times (because any guy you're seeing is probably dating numerous other women too), nobody will date you because then you're a slut and not "marriage material" if you have, God forbid, had sex with 8 guys or whatever. So I hope you can understand the caution behind fucking a guy just because you're attracted to him--attractive women get MANY offers and they're attracted to many of them, but they also don't want to be writ…
/r/askTRP25/02/14 07:04 PM
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I always thought guys just wanted to aim as high as possible.
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:51 PM
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Purple here, I think men and women both bring an equal amount of good/bad things to the world on average (I do think it differs by individual, to an extent) but I think they are still different (again, ON AVERAGE).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 06:48 PM
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I've always seen TRP as a mix of young (under 25) and older (over 40) men. The young ones are upset about how flighty teenage girls can be, understandably so, and the older ones are pissed about their ex-wives, paying child support, etc. I don't mean this in a derogatory way, it's just what I've seen. I've actually seen a lot of BP men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 06:46 PM
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lol well I was a virgin at the time, but I mentioned I'm in a great relationship now and we had some bumpy times but overall I think we have a pretty good dynamic of both of us bringing something to the relationship. It is very possible that I had little to offer in my high school relationships other than being decent-looking and available, as I was socially awkward I probably wasn't a very interesting person. Also, most people considered me stupid (I'd say I'm of avg intelligence, but I do come…
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:38 PM
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lol this is a huge part of it for sure wow, again, downvote for a really un-controversial comment.
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:30 PM
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very accurate assessment. I do know that all the girls they dated after me had sex with him, but still no regrets because it kept my number low. ETA: why in the fuck would this get a downvote? someone just seems to be downvoting everything I say one at a time regardless of content.
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:29 PM
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Well, these weren't high-value men by any stretch of the word, but you could easily flip that around from a woman's perspective (I agree that's how mating/bartering works, by the way) Why would a woman give sex away for free without any guarantee of commitment? Not only would that be a waste of her time, but unlike the man giving away commitment without getting sex first, it could potentially make it harder for her to find other mates later. if a guy commits and doesn't get sex, he can dump the …
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:24 PM
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Interesting, good answer. As I said, i wasn't actually having sex (we were doing other things that I guess could seem as exciting as sex to a 15-year-old but nothing that truly is sex). I guess you could argue some quit if they thought they got as much as they could possibly get. True, a lot of them had low worth, as did I. It's really a shame how there's vastly so much more female empowerment than the reverse (if any...)
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:23 PM
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That's fair, although a lot of guys here WILL write a girl off as marriage material if she has sex too early. Also, part of why I waited was because I didn't want to have sex with many men! I wanted to make sure a guy was going to stick around, lest he up my number and make me seem like a slut to the next guy.
/r/askTRP25/02/14 06:09 PM
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This is a little confusing. I see here that the only girls worthy of commitment are ones who don't put out...but ones who DO put out are sluts and should be kept as plates/FWB How can a woman reasonably expect to be in a happy relationship? LOL Is this just because high school boys aren't looking for serious commitment, unlike adult men who are within the marriage-able age and could go either way? ETA: They were all virgins, for what it's worth. lol
/r/askTRP25/02/14 05:30 PM
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Have stronger personal boundaries; make your opinions known firmly but not rudely. Basically don't be a pussy. You can still be a genuinely kind person without letting other people walk all over you. Don't go to endless lengths to do things for a woman who hasn't done anything for you. On that note, if by "nice guy" you mean girls aren't interested in you and prefer to have you as a friend, some girls just won't be physically attracted or whatever. You could be aiming out of your league physical…
/r/askTRP25/02/14 05:07 PM
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Totally agree, i say the same thing to women who think the married guy will leave his wife for them. good luck, honey.
/r/askTRP25/02/14 05:02 PM
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Wow, I just researched it. Interesting!!!
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 03:26 AM
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Nastiness really not necessary. Sometimes I feel like they're ruining my face because I'd like to look pretty without heavy concealer, in the mornings and stuff. Also, even if my concealer is great, it doesn't totally get rid of them. You can definitely still see them.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/14 03:25 AM
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I felt that most of what she said was totally reasonable and fine, she said a few things in her book that were a bit out of line but nothing outrageous.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:27 AM
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I remember hearing that and really liking it! I think there are really very few men/women out there who "don't need" someone. That's the whole point of being in a relationship, you SHOULD be at least a little dependent.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:27 AM
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true but i wouldn't consider her feminine, she also frightens me lol
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:26 AM
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Nah, I probably should! I have one I almost never use.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:19 AM
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I don't make eye contact with strangers because why the hell would I? I have a fiance and I don't want to talk to strangers anyway. If I were single and looking for a man, I would make eye contact with strangers i found attractive but not those I don't find attractive. I'm surprised you avoid eye contact with guys you find attractive! I kinda get it.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:14 AM
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right? what if she's...napping? or at work?
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:14 AM
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The only one I disagree with is the texting/calling. I'm engaged so of course I'm prompt with my text responses but if you're single men are very turned off by you being too eager. I know this from first hand experience.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:14 AM
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Yeah, these tips are actually decent but I usually refuse to give them any clicks. They've had a few real 'winners' that were indistinguishable from satire.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:13 AM
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date 5 guys at once? how would one even find the time? Even when I was single and dating around, the most guys I ever saw at one time was two, and it was more in the "first date" stage. Doing that long term would be ridiculous. As for sleeping with all of them, I'd rather stay off Maury for now, thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:09 AM
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it's true you shouldn't settle for a person just for the sake of getting married, but this often translates to "you're an amazing goddess who is perfect the way you are and nobody is worthy of you." Then they turn 30 and are like "why am I single"
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:08 AM
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I had to exit as soon as I saw the title. I'm engaged and in my 20s and I absolutely hate stuff like this. I got so much shit for not following these absurd types of articles, and wow-ee, I'm engaged with single digit partners, wonder why....
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:08 AM
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I don't have this at all....I'm so goofy that I feel like grace just isn't in the cards for me. Luckily I think my goofiness is something that my SO loves, and I dress up nice so I appear more graceful than most sloppy american women but...yeah, grace is lacking in our society.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:06 AM
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:) made me feel better. Which concealer do you use? BareMinerals well rested is nice, but it's powder so sometimes it can settle in lines I don't even have (like when I crinkle my eyes up).
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 02:03 AM
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Thanks! I heard something about chamomile tea there too
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 01:45 AM
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Oh, damn! I hadn't thought of diet. Well, I try to do paleo but I suck at it because the snacks at my office are almost never paleo but I am strictly gluten free. I drink but not much, just white wine every now and then usually. I really like Neutrogena longwear foundation by the way! It's only $13, could be worth a try. The eye gel you linked to is way out of my price range but it does look good!
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 01:44 AM
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Hm interesting. Where do your dark circles come from? Mine have a reddish tint as opposed to brown/blue so it's from blood vessels. I've heard good things about the eye cream you mentioned by the way!
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/14 01:32 AM
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Oh, i actually don't think sex makes anyone looser. I do think abstaining from sex can make you a little tighter but it's all temporary. The only thing that's permanent (IMO) would be purposeful body modification, menopause (sometimes) and childbirth.
/r/askTRP19/02/14 08:05 PM
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Nah not braggy, but just so you know I have seen guys literally claiming to have "destroyed" a girl physically (made her literally loose) and say stuff about girls who have more than ___ sex partners being loose. I know it's total nonsense but I was wondering if there was any medical explanation.
/r/askTRP19/02/14 08:03 PM
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Wouldn't being with a committed partner make a woman wetter, though? All evidence points to the idea that a woman sleeping around isn't doing it for sexual gratification (ONS orgasm rates for women are very low) but for emotional validation, leveraging sex for commitment, a myriad of reasons... ETA: If you just mean women with high sex drives, that's one thing, but the point is many of those women aren't sleeping around and are actually just having sex a lot with one person. I don't think sleepi…
/r/askTRP19/02/14 08:02 PM
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It's probably just a few people, I most likely just noticed them more than I would a normal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 03:46 AM
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Aw thanks! I hope he thinks so too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 03:45 AM
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definitely :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 10:05 PM
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Yeah, I mean there's a difference between someone you bone regularly and someone you would give anything for. Obviously!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 09:47 PM
1

is TRP against the idea of love? I agree with all of what you said but that. I always knew PUAs were against love and all that but I feel like love is the thing that keeps the wife/husband goggles on :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 08:57 PM
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LOL that is kind of hilarious. I love your screen name by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 08:00 PM
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Yeah, for me it's more about tone than context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 07:38 PM
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Well I went on RPW yesterday and it was actually nice, but I probably won't be heading to TRP anytime soon. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 07:00 PM
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Really? In what way? As a woman I feel TRP has a lot of "shoulds" and "should nots" for me. I agree with most of them so it's no biggie, but there definitely seem to be some guidelines to behavior. At the simplest level, be thin and have long hair. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 05:05 AM
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I'd say that's good advice, although I think when a man turns a woman down for sex there is usually deeper things at play (assuming he's doing this all the time, not just once in a while- all men get tired sometimes!) Have you asked her about his work situation?
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/14 12:20 AM
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I actually think your profile works well. The story at the beginning is a little unnecessary but the rest of it reads respectful and masculine. good luck!
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/14 12:19 AM
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Alrighty, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 12:00 AM
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Thank you :) That said, I agree with TRP more than I disagree. There are just some elements (usually in tone, rather than content) that I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 11:10 PM
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Yes, I do! I'm guessing some guys just don't notice it or something. Usually when a guy talks to me, but isn't being out-right flirty, I try to rub my eyes with the ring hand a lot so he gets the message and I don't think they even notice. I'm like...HUH????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 11:09 PM
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Pretty much just that. I guess you could factor in some other things too, but they also relate to gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 10:08 PM
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I agree with all of this BUT the issue I have with misogyny at TRP isn't because it's amoral, but because it's just unpleasant to read, so I'd rather read something else. Basically, if someone says "why don't you come to TRP more often?" I'd answer "Because I don't like the misogyny." if their idea is that I should be OK with misogyny, shut up and listen to the men, then they're just reverse Tumblr SJWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:53 PM
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Yeah, I'd like to avoid giving any clicks to Heartiste when I can. He's like reverse Lindy West. (I also do not care about genders in certain professions- most likely women didn't WANT to be engineers, I don't see the big deal)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:51 PM
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It's not that I care; it's that it's illogical to have a problem with the women who turn you down for the sake of being traditional, and then ALSO have a problem with the women who sleep with you because you're sluts. I'm sure plenty of guys out there think I'm a prude (as well as plenty of women) and I don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:50 PM
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Funny, I agree with all this. Kewl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:46 PM
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I know that, which is why I thought it was so absurd for the commenter to assume "OH, you don't like cheating? Just be in an open relationship!" Like really, that's the solution? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:45 PM
1

Out of curiosity, what are the RP things you don't agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:33 PM
2

Oh, maybe it's just one person but I see women sometimes saying on RP forums (not nec. reddit) like "How do I keep him from cheating/Is he cheating" and there's always some asshole who's like "Why would it matter if he was? You should sleep around too." and like CAN'T COMPREHEND why someone wouldn't want their partner to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:31 PM
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TP does have some original concepts that I haven't seen elsewhere, but the TRP that is easiest to adhere to are things that have been uniformly agreed upon for centuries and only recently threatened by radical feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:16 PM
1

RP guys probably wouldn't give you shit because you're gay. There have been examples of gay or lesbian couples using RP tactics to improve their relationship (not being a doormat, self improvement, etc) but I imagine it no longer applies when it gets into the "women don't know what they want" and "all women want to be dominated by an alpha male" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:08 PM
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Huh, I guess I do see this happen too but usually not with FWB things- usually the guy takes a girl on a few dates and she just "doesn't feel it" and ends it there. I've never seen a girl use a guy for sex and then pass on commitment but again I'm sure it DOES happen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 09:07 PM
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Really? I always saw it the other way around! I guess there's no real way to prove it either way, but I see your side of things. I do get attached easily, which is the reason FWB will never work out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:54 PM
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Very interesting. From time to time TRP mirrors Tumblr SJWs, except men are oppressed and women need to sit down, shut up and listen to the oppressed men. But not everyone on TRP does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:42 PM
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If that's genuinely all the woman feels (and I doubt it, since women are notoriously more emotional than that) then awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:41 PM
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I was thinking this too. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned that in my ETA. I feel like a bit of an idiot since apparently other people made the same mistake. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:15 PM
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Not bad if they're both on board and happy with it. I read it a different way, but I'm also assuming the girl has my mindset, and I may be different from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:14 PM
3

I know people will give you shit for this but I'm the same way. I literally can't even enjoy sex with someone unless I trust them on a deeper level. Maybe I'm Tumblr-level "demisexual" (jk)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:13 PM
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Yeah. i would have been out the door right then and there, but then again, I wouldn't be ok with being a "plate" to begin with and I hate the idea of FB/casual sex. For a woman who likes that stuff, maybe dread would turn her on a little. Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:13 PM
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Yeah, I really think it's cringe-worthy when a girl gets into a FWB thing and is like "Oh, eventually he'll realize how great I am and we'll be more!" No. If a guy wants FWB, it's often because he doesn't find you attractive or interesting enough to date long-term. It's almost always an enormous insult, at least IME. If a guy is up-front about FWB, the girl is an idiot if she thinks she can turn it into more (I know this happens sometimes but def not often). Similarly, if a girl tells a guy he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:12 PM
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Can't handle it right here! When I was single, the minute "FB" was uttered, I was gone. I made one mistake in high school with a guy who I thought I could handle it with (to be fair, we didn't even have sex, but there were hand jobs involved, I feel absurd typing that) and I wound up feeling horrible. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:09 PM
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I'm not sure that I, as a woman, could ever enjoy the FB thing. It seems so counter-biological for me. My vagina straight-up dries like the Sahara if a guy even says the word. But I'm sure some would say that's just my hamstering, and if a guy alpha enough came along I'd ditch my fiance to be one of his "plates".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 08:08 PM
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Ah, I get that. But what I wonder is...if you're worried about there being no more "good girls" left, why spend all your waking moments trying to bed sluts? Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on the good girls then, instead of turning them "bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 05:20 AM
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Ok well you put the blame (or absurdity, whatever) on me for "caring" when it's obviously way more illogical to feel entitled to another persons body, especially someone already honoring a monogamous relationship. Compared to that arrogant entitlement, I don't think my "caring" is really that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 03:21 AM
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So it's fine for them to insult me for doing something moral (not cheating) but it's crazy of ME not to want to be insulted? It's confirmed- TRP women cannot ever do anything right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 03:03 AM
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Well by calling me a bitch, I guess it kind of confirms how they feel. It doesn't hurt my feelings but it's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/14 02:56 AM
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Just saw your comment. Fabulous reply
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 11:02 PM
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Well if it makes you feel better I don't think being "alpha" is the be-all-end-all. For a relationship, beta traits are actually really good. I feel very attracted to my SO when he shows some vulnerability and sensitivity. If he acted like a woman or something I wouldn't be turned on, but in a relationship you need some beta and some alpha :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:39 PM
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Rad! I feel so good about myself now. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:17 PM
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No worries, this place can get tense at times so i understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 09:42 PM
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Oh wow I wasn't disagreeing or ciriticizing...just thought your question was interesting and I related to it from my own experiences...I am not calling you a sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 09:35 PM
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Oh I didn't see it that way :) I thought it was a thought provoking question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 09:16 PM
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Well, it's not an exaggeration for me. back when I was single I was propositioned nearly every night I went out. Keep in mind though, I never said anything about the guys being attractive. I think any decent looking woman can get casual sex with a man, but not necessarily a hot one or interesting one. But again, I dont' think most women would even enjoy that much casual sex so it's not "easier" for us because that's not what we even want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 09:08 PM
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I think the danger of men has been way overblown. Men are around me all day, and so far none of them have raped me. I think there's something to be said for being wary of a man in an alleyway who looks high, shifty, etc...but the same can be said of a female methhead looking for a fight. To be honest, I may be more inclined to hire a female babysitter, and I also wonder if that's male shaming. I think that people are very open to the double standards against women in our society but are very ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 08:49 PM
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I don't think everything needs to be about beta/alpha. Your being physically attractive is a huge asset, I think a lot of women see "beta" behavior as attractive if it's coming from a guy who's already good-looking, but it becomes "Creepy" or "sad" coming from a guy who's not. My friend is REALLY into her boyfriend whose behavior is very "beta", he's cuddly, warm, never cocky or jerky at all and wanted commitment right away. But he makes good money and he's tall/good-looking so it came off as se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 07:17 PM
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