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nothing like trying to live out RP philosophy to bring a marriage to the point where she feels like she has to build an abuse case and escape. do you want her to leave? if not I suggest you drop this stuff and have a talk with her about how you've been mixed up and want to change to someone who is a good partner, and ask for another chance
/r/askMRP21/04/26 06:44 PM
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i think people perceive that she's not a threat to him. like it or not the differences in our bodies still play a huge role in this dynamic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/26 02:58 PM
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broken link?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 07:51 PM
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id be interested to hear your definition
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 12:52 PM
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this whole discussion makes it seem like feminists are fundamentally unreasonable / bad actors
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:33 PM
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you expect the people giving out bad advice online to change or are you just bitching?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:10 PM
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in my life, i had way better results with people that came out of my social circles than i ever did slogging it out on apps. the apps were always torture
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:48 PM
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Being hot is more important. not saying i agree with it, but that's probably an accurate appraisal of the sorry state of things. get yourself bimboed out and you will have an increased chance of landing a rich man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:34 PM
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Companies do this to seem like they're growing when they're not i thought they did it so they can act like they weren't just going to hire their cousin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:59 PM
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these arguments without any examples or sources just look like flailing redpill talking points. if you shout them loud enough does it make them stronger? whats the goal here. lets look at data or else we are just shouting past each other
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:57 PM
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from the article more effort is needed to develop third spaces and offline alternatives to combat modern disconnection. this is huge. i mean there's just nowhere to effing go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 02:35 PM
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that makes sense. i wont argue that. i guess i'm looking at it from the perspective of 'being able to compete' is also a quality women are looking for. so its a natural selection thing. a cunning man should theoretically not need to ask questions online when all the info is out there, how did he miss it? the only thing left is to actually go out and do stuff, which i suspect is the part online men are avoiding by being really anal about the advice discussions but i'm happy for you if this stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:34 PM
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if a woman is out there looking for the best guy she can find, why would she muddy her pool by giving a struggling guy tips on how to get in there? also, if you are a man-hater of some kind, or just a lover of a good shitshow, you might just have a field-day coming to a place like this and trolling the hell out of confused guys barking up a clueless tree. those are just 2 explanations but i bet there's more. but knowing these bangers, the only logical thing for a struggling guy would be to go fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:27 PM
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the culture of virgin shame is horrible. i think it messed me up as a teen. and i feel like its just generated to keep markets bustling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:28 PM
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Feminism itself includes continual internal critique and has long included efforts aimed at improving outcomes for men as well. I'm very curious to hear an example of some revisions the movement has made as well. I was told Germaine Greer's narratives have been pushed out of fashion and those IMO would have injected some fairness toward men into the philosophy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 09:06 PM
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hahah you wouldnt know
/r/askMRP18/12/25 08:24 PM
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I can't imagine really cheating. The sneaking around? The lying about why you weren't where you were expected to be? The not helping with my side of the daily household grind? I always figured the relationship was already wrecked if you have time to cheat
/r/askMRP18/12/25 03:29 PM
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maybe a little red star, or a qr code on them you can scan to see some stats
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:58 PM
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i mean that makes perfect sense actually
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:57 PM
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it does seem like women on here enjoy sending the guys on wild goose chases. its like they know that there's not much you can work out by debating on here, but the guys keep showing up, so out of boredom they are given things to chew on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:29 PM
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this is only a problem if you are ignorant of dimorphic spiritual gender forces underlying forces still powering society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:09 PM
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if you have sick abs and social skills and still can't get a date, it's probably some facial issue right? whats to debate? unless you have a 1 face, get the sick abs and social skills for success yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:15 PM
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hasanabi at the dildo museum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:49 PM
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sure, but it really begs the question of what specifics are we going to improve. a politician saying we need to make things better for everyone is a platitude as old as politics itself
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:38 PM
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im hearing 'we need to make public life better for all, which will help men too, probably'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 02:34 PM
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'male' might be too vague of a category if you want to be actually helpful. you could just as easily say 70% of violence to women is done by ANGRY people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 02:56 PM
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I'm confused. Where is it ok to post about looks now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:09 PM
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is patriarchy just a red herring for capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:17 PM
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hard to separate the boomercon from the redpill stuff Women want guys that treat them like shit. not really TRP canon. he could be getting this from anywhere. at the end of the day, its...really damn hard to convince boomers of anything. i agree with the other reply. you will have to go deep into why he feels this way and who he is listening to. people go to redpill because there are gender realities that we aren't told about. Women want guys that treat them like shit. ..is rooted in a hint of t…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/25 02:16 PM
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i can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:54 PM
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they can't seem to attract the opposite sex. no because they can always go after 1,2,3s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:32 PM
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I can't really get it out of my head that the infrastructure is there for men to have all kinds of spaces and mental help, but it's they themselves that hold them back. I think it starts in childhood. You hear about how men are coddled, in contrast to women. They are spoiled more. I don't know if it's true but honestly it was true for my family. If men are raised thinking they are little kings, then for many, life is gonna knock them on their ass, and they are going to react in all kinds of weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:40 PM
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https://youtu.be/D75EugMrWnw?t=53 53 second mark. this is whats ruining everything. this one manipulation. men should absolutely be ashamed of sleeping with girls 1st and then asking for things to be casual. its bullshit. don't even gimme the line 'well girls can just say no.' see that's why it's a manipulation. because there's pressure and confusion and you think that saying yes will help. manipulation is not OK just because some people manage to say no before or after you've hurt them. i don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:47 PM
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ah yea i agree from the FDS angle
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:10 PM
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There's a case to made for relationships being better off if both parties want to delay sex. It activates a lust state that blocks out the rational brain. If you are trying to figure out if someone is a virtuous provider, or a dedicated homemaker, then fucking them is probably the worst thing. Because it could take months at best for that rush to wear off. It's 2 different mindsets really. And when the rush wears off, you've still bonded, making it really hard to start seeing the negative stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:35 PM
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one thing i've heard on here is that many women report living with a boyfriend when indeed it means they are sleeping with him hoping he will give commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:05 PM
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some people just wanna do piv
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:21 PM
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not everybody wants to make a whole production out of it, women included.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:38 PM
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Men don't have to collectively agree though. Each man that looksmaxes ups his chance at getting a decent GF, simple. Just curious, how would the bar be raised in a way that still hurts the average man? I could also see it hurting the top men. If a good body becomes the norm, all the sudden a percentage of chads have to produce brains as well as bodies to still out compete the men below him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:12 PM
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ok so add better pay to third spaces. now a plan is forming!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:00 PM
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seen plenty of women on the sub saying it's bad, like the one you are commenting under
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:59 PM
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I've seen a lot of guys talking online like they love a nice fat girl so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:45 PM
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I’m gonna guess that the push to change what people find attractive didn’t really work that much, despite tons of effort, what that amounts to is women get tons of emotional support and pro-woman propaganda but don't worry, it doesn't do anything. it's like saying i got a beautiful villa in italy but don't bother looking, there's none left for sale. it's bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:43 PM
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but if they are single, then you could have a dramatic increase in strange men coming around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:29 PM
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cuteness overload
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:22 PM
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i wanna hear your date stories. i was out for sushi with the fam last night and i heard a guy on a date with a girl behind us. he was telling a story about how he loves stick shift and one time the gears? were failing at a stop light and he kept trying to go but the car wouldn't go and people were honking. i couldn't hear any more. i just kept wondering, how is he doing? is she into this or is he boring her? what do they look like? is she gonna sleep with him tonight? on our way out saw them. he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:37 PM
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Women in America weren't allowed to vote until relatively recent in history and you think society hasn't focused on men? this is how any civilization progresses though. any fledgling tribe puts men in charge by necessity because they have to put their bodies on the line to secure resources and land. this is the main template that any civilization will be built from. it stays in place until you reach a modern level of comfort for all and then you taper it off until all are equal. you could make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:34 PM
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I agree that would be good
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:34 AM
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no, redpill guys lie about how many women they even get. its mostly old guys recycling a bunch of old tramps, and spinning like they are running some tight game
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:21 PM
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i'm sorry to hear that man. i don't doubt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:34 PM
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i'd like to see that :D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:33 PM
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or be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:30 PM
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love begins with the scent -worf, redpill guru
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:21 PM
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you understand the internet is a place where a huge contingent of jilted women hang out and love the chance to make men depressed if they can
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:18 PM
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its online-women only saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:17 PM
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sadly you have to go for a women who doesn't have those options
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:16 PM
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key word being average. an average guy needs to leverage what he has. so he will need to sufficiently lower his standards. that combined with getting himself together, and and pursuing IRL will get results. this is the best you can do, if you bitch abut it you are only choosing to be alone because i don't see anyone putting together a meaningful coalition to change the paradigm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:13 PM
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right, but having access to her IRL first is still going to give you a massive advantage over all the online guys begging for the chance to just smell her presence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:03 PM
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finding a girl online feels impossible with average looks, but not if you work at it IRL. you literally can't rizz a girl in a chat i'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:49 PM
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I've been a guy who for a long time wants to go to bat for men. The misogyny feminists point out is overblown etc. But over the recent years, I do see things that grate on me as cringe. Like when guys ignore women speaking in a group. Or when a guy comments on a women's age or looks (who is not present) in a mocking way (hard to describe exactly) when there is another woman present as if she's down for locker room talk. idk, it's little things, but i see them and it's annoying. imagine being a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:27 PM
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Ted Mosby i had to google that. thanks, i wish i understood, but maybe i will later :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:56 PM
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someone showed me this recently and i haven't seen it refuted Avg lifetime partner count for both men and women is still 4-7 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:37 PM
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dating for sex when you know you won't marry her is absolutely using
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:00 PM
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Feminists have been able to carve out a space in government funding for themselves. We don't have to talk about the forces that made it happen, but they are here to stay, even if their relevance has faded. That's how our system works. Men could have a similar movement and carve out something for themselves and cancel out the bad vibes that come from funded feminists and secure mens' place in society more firmly instead of being the default whipping boy. But we can't do that because as feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:34 PM
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1- Women don't want to meet up for casual sex with average men. average people hookup all the time (yes, they do, if you've ever worked in any office with a lot of people you'll know people have sex with each other) never seen casual hookups in a really long time working in offices. if anything people usually start dating, if that. usually people stay away from it. one time a group of guys had a bet going who could hook up with this one new girl. they guy that won ended up dating her long term. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:24 PM
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ok but they aren't just random women, they are supposedly authorities on an issue it seems like Annie Lord in particular is bitter, doesn't have her physical appearance under control and is aging fast. you have people like that writing articles about what's wrong with the dating world. there's going to be a toxic influence here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:33 PM
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but so is a relationship in general
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:19 PM
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45% of men 18-25 have never approached a woman. How is this a problem for women? Less noise from lower looks scale men. Women will absolutely hit on hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:17 PM
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(2)lots more people will be single. this is it, you already see it clearly happening it means couples are not having babies enough to keep the birthrate from falling. right, and this is another problem capitalism just can't solve. it's solution is importing people which amounts to ethnocide. and it's only band-aid. opening up society to the mechanisms of markets is a terrible mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:41 PM
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And this speaks to another lie about markets. We are told that when women age, then they lose power compared to established men. In reality, there are no equalizers to make everything fair. Women benefit in a free market when they are young and ride out that momentum just as a 'first to market' entity like amazon. Rather than turning to established men when women age, we are seeing they just accept being single and childless, or some variation. The only way out is for the entire paradigm to be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:16 PM
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why does only my post get auto removed when posting a question for men when flaired as a man. you mean to tell me if i just remove my flair i can break the rules? why do unflaired people even get to post? you can't tell where they are coming from in the debate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:50 PM
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men are just worse off in a dating 'market.' it was always destined to be this way if it's a market. that's a relatively new idea made possible by mass communication. in their early 20s, women are the only ones in this market with a product of any value at all. so they have a natural monopoly, to put it in the cold soulless terms of capitalism, which apparently everyone agrees is just how dating has to be now. so of course its gonna be a shitshow for men. of course the men with looks and money a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:45 PM
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some girls have rng
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:37 AM
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we get divorced and bang skanks. RP must work!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:53 PM
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approaching is awesome. why would men want to become the passive of the sexes? seriously thought, men not being able to take no for an answer still leads us back to male entitlement being the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:16 PM
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male entitlement should be the target then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:00 PM
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My point here is that extinguishing gender roles on paper is a weak adhesive that will corrode in time true. but this feels like more of an internal mens' discussion. if you have positive male energy, you are going to attract a girl and she's going to naturally react well and do things that complement you. we don't have to worry about bothering women with the specifics of how all this works to try and win them over. We need to lead. guys just need to know that being a progressive feminist egalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:12 PM
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This seems overly wordy. I'm not sure what we are debating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:57 PM
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well, that's what people did. but even in a modern adaptation, there is a substantial movement of people that swear 3 months can and does work. never tried it, but honestly we can't just live in sexual-capitalist realism forever. something has to budge in this terrible system. we can't just always be defeated by the current paradigm which will collapse someday
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:53 PM
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as a guy who was told those things when he was a kid, i think the landscape is changing. future guys will be more equipped with knowledge that there's a game happening out there. right now we are in a mass phase of many men going holy shit idk what is going on anymore so i'll just do porn and vg for a while another thing is that if you look at the post feminism world as a subconscious shift toward empowering womens' sexual strategy globally, it was advantageous to them to keep the game a secret …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:48 PM
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waiting before sex was literally the protection we had against this type of guy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:29 PM
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na i'd rather bang that lady than work a register, caring for children or elderly disabled parents, cooking and cleaning or doing the laundry. banging is like one of the top easiest jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:23 PM
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Can we quash this thing that men expect women to put so much effort into their looks at almost ALL times? Guys sound off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:38 PM
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Are you guys incapable of holding more than one reality in your heads at a time? wait you say this like its some kind of own. if you are doing expert sarcasm then i tip my fedora i only hold one reality in my head, or try to at least. because... there is only one reality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:32 PM
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70s was a also a pretty perverted film era
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:28 PM
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i mean the mainstream media is straight up evil sometimes. a reflection of who pays them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:22 PM
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what does that quote even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:01 PM
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but there are still women who see something expensive looking and get a tingle. sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:00 PM
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i think you have a fantastic proposal there and it's more than reasonable for men to do. i've said the same here before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:16 PM
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sure. i'm actually fine with the dating market too. i make this thread of behalf of the men who seem to have a lot of demands but scream into the void here every day instead of grasping for something actionable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:14 PM
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that's fair. i invite you to consider though that a person with outsized market power might assume just that stance. my question applies to women who do feel the dating market is bad but haven't been moved by arguments here because they get no benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:11 PM
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so if you are of the opinion that the dating market is fine then this question doesn't apply to you at all. People are attracted to who they are attracted to not what's "fair". no change to be made there then How do you "give back market power"? that would involve changing ones behavior in some way. or adding your voice to a movement for women to change their behavior. i mean if you absolutely need examples, as if this entire sub is not examples, let's just take some simple demands i see a lot: …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:08 PM
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that's fair. how would they do that? get better jobs? thats valid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:58 PM
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isn't that what thousands of posts seem to be screaming for on this board? what are men asking for here if not that? are they just here to whine? I don't want to try to summarize what men are asking for in this comment because i don't want the question to be about individual demands. we know men are wanting a list of things. pick any and apply it to the question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:57 PM
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what a bleak, cold, corporate view of the world. We don't need hollywood fake love, but we also don't need dystopic love
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:37 PM
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look around. describe what you see. that's your destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:40 PM
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whats your question? dude if a meme is your argument i don't know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:36 PM
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im not but ok keep fighting capitalism by taking shots at others criticizing capitalism i guess? hope that works out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:34 PM
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people really can't connect how feminism just became a tool of capitalism. we went from equal rights for women, to equality means all humans will just be a homogeneous blob of plebs ready to be plugged into jobs where needed. feminism became a war on gender itself, which looks like female erasure as it stands today
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:32 PM
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you are so scared to criticize capitalism that you believe communism is really the only angle to critique from. come back when you can actually steelman an anti-capitalist position.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:25 PM
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brain rot confirmed with all those memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:15 PM
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keep simping for your own destruction bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:10 PM
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Capitalism is at the root of men's troubles here. It's economic pressure on all people pushing women away from exploring traditional gender roles. You go from women settling early to focus on family, to women delaying or forgoing that stuff do be in the rat race. We are maximizing profit for companies and taxes for government by making life all about keeping a roof over your head and attaining enough wealth to live like an influencer. Of course gender relations is going to deteriorate. There's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:07 PM
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why not! you can do so much to heal the people if you hobbled or outlawed every company profiting from our decline
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:08 PM
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i call bs on "men who watch porn are more violent towards women" at least on porn causing it. seems wrong on it's face. i'd believe violent men are more likely to also be porn watchers, but that's not whats being argued here, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:58 PM
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really because you can scroll social media all day and in public. a guy looking at porn all day is just an antisocial loser anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:40 PM
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sucks that she couldn't tell a man was sexually deranged before going steady
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:39 PM
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do we have causation though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:35 PM
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the funny thing about proposing these things in a debate sub with women is that you would never get any of them to agree something has to be done. the only way to handle such a problem would be to take over the government with a male dominated faction and start enacting top down changes to society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:31 PM
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No, but whats the point in always being defensive about it. I welcome any chance to improve myself and all men should. If women are complaining about something, I'm still gonna make damn sure all measures are taken to fix whatever I can before I throw it back in their court.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:16 PM
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require a firmer hand Child abuse? 🤨 No, but in USA at least, we don't have any standard for families to conform to. We think kids can be raised by TV and ipads as long as they are occupied and then make it to public school til around 18. This is all to accommodate duel income families who basically need kids raised on autopilot. It's not working
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:14 PM
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i don't have data, but just going from anecdotes. hey maybe its not significant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:11 PM
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Idk, I think we see examples of men who sit jobless or with a much lower paying job than their lady and yet still want to be taken care of like the breadwinner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:25 PM
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I agree it goes both ways. I wish we'd stop with the pissing match though and men just step up and become awesome so we stop getting blamed for shit. Imagine if we could be like yea I'm just following Aristotle's virtues with a dash of Sartre
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:24 PM
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Do we admit that for some reason, many many men were not raised to have basic decent people/life skills for lack of a better word? It seems a lot of complaints about men amount to this kind of thing. Guys get addicted to booze, porn, videogames, gambling. They treat their lady mean, or they cheat, or they don't pull their weight in the house either financially or just as good roommates. All this amounts to men not understanding that society expects them to be responsible and be decent humans. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:22 PM
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if you are worried about what your social circle will think? as opposed to being a lonely guy with nothing to lose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:25 PM
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but the option now is slavery to the porn industry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:24 PM
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he got a cute girl by brute force of being an e-celeb, but he was such a gay shlub that she finally left him for a guy with the slightest bit of rizz and testosterone. and in a humiliating way where the whole internet could see it happening
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:23 PM
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no idea about that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:21 PM
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maybe its the equivalent of dirty jobs that men defacto have to do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:02 PM
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why does that matter for a sexless man? its still more fulfilling than porn til death
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:58 PM
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https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ While trafficking inflows may be lower where prostitution is criminalized, there may be severe repercussions for those working in the industry. For example, criminalizing prostitution penalizes sex workers rather than the people who earn most of the profits (pimps and traffickers). From your paper “The likely negative consequences of legalised prostitution on a country’s inflows of human traffick…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:57 PM
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she left him, but he could have kept her if he was better. thats throwing her away
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:53 PM
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this implies that the guy has a social life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:44 PM
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Why do you pretend there aren't average girls with decent body weight available? They are around. These posts are all terminally online and app-users.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:28 PM
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he basically threw her away by being aggressively and actively unattractive. men here, take note
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:27 PM
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we don't hear much about r/k selection these days but it's still kinda relevant ..maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:25 PM
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sure, which means attracting more women to the platform by empowering them was still less profitable than just being the same as the rest but late to market
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:21 PM
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but a few basic universal good self improvements would go so far here. for example the oft-cited chores gap. I'm super tired of hearing about it from women. but there's no good reason that's a thing other than a large number of men out there are expecting their also working wife/gf to be their mommy in the house. absolutely unacceptable behavior for duel-income people. maybe some women are ok with that, but c'mon. by and large why would a HUMAN do that to another HUMAN? such an easy fix and we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:32 PM
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I am dumbstruck when i hear how just absentee many husbands are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:52 PM
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when women give average guys a chance, they often report he doesn't have his shit together. this is a huge problem. we complain average guys don't have a chance and then we blow that chance half the time. yes we have to be above average mentally, no way around it, no point in crying about how its unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:46 PM
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Physical attraction is a reasonable preference during the initial stages of meeting each other before you've actually formed an emotional connection. Then you are forced to agree that delaying sex for a set amount of time is the only logical way to really date
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:29 PM
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well if you are more inclined to do what the group does, it doesn't seem fair to be called out for doing the norm. that's why behavior standards have to be top-down in society and why ours can never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:26 PM
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I agree that getting dates is a straightforward question with direct solutions. But from what I'm hearing from women, they are much more concerned with the person you are once you land a date. If you aren't together as a person, they are getting cheated if you land a date with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:44 PM
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ive done therapy several times and usually i get enough out of it to move forward on my own. i've also purchased books on the mental stuff i'm working on. the books help. if one book wasn't the ticket, you got closer to the real one you need and you buy that. the library also has them and you can request the library pull in more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:24 PM
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Therapy really is the answer here. It's like you are skipping over an obvious step. It's like saying there is something wrong with cakes in general if yours comes out not sweet enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:11 PM
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i feel like anyone trying to use new terms is only doing it to trick the other person. Like 'Netflix and Chill' I'd be interested to hear other modern dating terms. I wasn't aware of this change
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:41 PM
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ew he called it a hangout? was he just trying to bang?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:06 PM
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yup, totally possible
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:56 AM
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Yes if they walk away from a toxic situation, its good for their mental heath. But if they do it en mass, we have a catastrophic failure of gender relations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:26 AM
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right, we should all be fighting together to get the country back to where single income is viable. i see the trad-wife hate as counterproductive to that dream. it's almost like people are fighting to keep things the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:27 PM
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lots of legit reasons to talk about jobs. OP was saying that the dates felt like a cold job interview, and suggesting it could be related to the idea that love is becoming increasingly transactional, with women leading the charge. i don't know how true it is though because i'm not on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:48 PM
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yes yes we know you want to see the whole thing fail
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:05 PM
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asking about job is great. but if there is a distinct feeling of someone needing to know how much money you make, that's icky. if dating is gonna be this thing where women are just trying to max out a duel income arrangement, men are going to walk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:28 PM
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It doesn't make sense to have to earn a male's masculinity. That should be available from the get-go That seems insanely hypocritical in light of your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:25 PM
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how
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:22 PM
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Can you give an example of how just being your true self while dating would be dangerous? (excluding showing like a silly etc side of yourself or whatever which we all hold back a little when dating because that stuff takes getting used to)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:20 PM
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mid guys have to do some legwork to get dates, but there are a number of variables they can tweak to make sure they aren't forever alone. Whats the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:28 PM
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even though average men have to work harder or settle for a girl whose been around the block, that's pretty far from the problem it's made out to be. It's not too much different from the past. It's always been a slog
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:51 PM
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average man - can looksmax and get off the apps and be ok below average - won't be ok debate over
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:51 PM
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that's a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:43 PM
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If they all got together, they could have a serious power block and start pushing legislation of their choosing. Not just that, but just putting their heads together could produce all kinds of ideas. They get the dopamine by posting in echo chambers but nothing is ever going to change if they can't get outside and do stuff IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:13 PM
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Why keep making the same point over and over that low-looks men are gonna have trouble dating no matter what? You never propose any solution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:31 PM
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It's working ok for so many people that there's no organic movement among the general population. There is a large enough group of people it's not working for that they could have by now come up with a very good plan using logic, critical thinking and mutual respect. Why are they not pushing such a plan as a team? Surely it would get traction that way. I would think any plan that required participation of the majority would also require a strong state to make it happen. So I refer to my original…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:52 AM
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I don't even buy the meme that men can't be vulnerable to their women. In all cases I'd like to hear the woman's side. In my experience, it's when the man actually needed therapy, but instead did an unstable ass gush or hundred
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:38 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:24 PM
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but they feel they can make the rest of the traits spawn once they are together
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:47 AM
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supply issue
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:41 AM
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cool, wasup 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:29 AM
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in an age where women can now choose from a wide spectrum of guys, there are going to be more men that never date. there would be ways one could use the government to change the culture away from this bad outcome. but nobody on this sub is interested in that. it's unpopular in the USA where people hate the idea of propaganda and are taught to believe it's always bad. so that's the liberalist freedom bed we made for ourselves. we love markets!! the sexual marketplacerino!!! love is now a fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:49 PM
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You seem to forget we actually built a civilization and put our monkey ways behind us. And now you shill for the forces that want to send us back to our primitive roots
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:01 PM
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because that's a the shit we have to eat after the sexual marketplace was pried open in the 20th century. the only way our way of life works is if people start families early and with the people in their community
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:34 PM
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fucking but not marrying IS a dick move. It's the source of this whole effing problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:51 PM
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But you have no bargaining power
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:23 AM
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i don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:53 PM
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The Alpha fux thing is kind of propaganda for the larger TRP project of getting you in their cult so you can be a permanent customer of their self-help snake oil scams. As a bonus, they get you so fucked up in the dating/love world and they come in and try to fuck the frustrated women you leave behind. Or just make you unfuckable so there's a better pool for them. Alpha's fuck? Sure, but so do betas, just like you imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:56 PM
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I have been down this rabbit hole with dudes so many times over the years. I've been banned from online groups. And there's even women with Stockholm syndrome about it, or pick me girls like "hey boys don't worry, my pussy is so bald for you!" The fact is this 'preference' is at best the product of 1st world decadence and at worst totally programmed into people to prop up the various industries that depend on body hair removal. Nobody wants to admit they have an irrational and harmful phobia tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:10 PM
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Serious answer: It's called beer goggles and it's pretty common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:23 PM
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Right, I mean what levels of weird shit should mean be expected to do just to have what our fathers had
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:12 PM
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Just logically, it's impossible to know what you like about a woman until you've got to know her better. It always has to start with pure physical attraction. Her wearing a Metallica shirt and me liking metal does not cut it in reality. Her interest in Metallica could likely be irrelevant when all is said and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:09 PM
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that girl has a low EQ she just a boosted mid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:42 AM
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Red pill guys are just spinning plates so it doesn't matter what's in her head
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:28 PM
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You will never get them to take looks seriously until men leave the basements, jobmax, looksmax, quit videogames, get their mental health great - all that. It's undeniable that there's so much the average male can do before you get down to immovable bone structure and height etc. I agree the "Men are this and women are that" posts are fucking terrible though. Useless threads put up by butthurt red pillers desperately trying to keep their ideology alive when increasingly nobody cares. But at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:26 PM
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Where are the Germaine Greer style feminists on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:12 PM
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There were girls I was interested in when I was really young, like from 1-8 grade. I believe each of them resulted in me being laughed at by the girl and surrounding people. That was really powerful shit. I mean I really hate that I had to go through that. Things are seriously off. My dad worked on the road a lot. My parents were fighting and got divorced. I would hope that a kid with a stable family and present dad would be able to navigate women at that age with less humiliation. But that's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:41 PM
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Learn to take responsibility for yourself OK but I never hurt anyone. Your move. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:55 PM
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The point is to get an own in on men, maybe draw attention to the issue of male violence, and accomplish nothing because of the petty own. Making it about men in general is insulting and counter productive. Men are likely to commit violence more because of their physical/chemical differences. But that doesn't change the overarching fact that the people committing the violence are for whatever reason acting as criminals. In the USA, we have a massive problem of lawlessness, mental illness, povert…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:19 PM
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black bears are the safest of bears afaik but if you encounter a grizzly on a trail with the same frequency that you encounter men on trails, your odd of injury just skyrocketed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:51 PM
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I have more reason to fear a man in the woods but you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:38 PM
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are women saying they'd rather be guaranteed killed, than possibly raped and killed on the off off chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:35 PM
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are you saying with a bear at least you know you're going to get hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:33 PM
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You could say: who would you rather be locked in a room with? A man or a bear? That's not really a hard tweak. Nobody would become defensive about this meme because anyone who said bear would be obviously a nut. But the phrasing as it is leaves an opportunity for women to try to gen an own in on all men, and they take that opportunity. If feelings matter, then I'd say men have every right to feel hurt, insulted, and unappreciated here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:19 PM
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walking past a grizzly on a trail has a much higher chance of something bad happening than walking past a man, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:14 PM
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walking past a grizzly on a trail has a much higher chance of something bad happening than walking past a man, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:14 PM
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It is kind of enraging that seemingly the average woman honestly thinks that men are more dangerous than bears. IDK maybe it's a really bad sample group. In which case, it's just not true, and then nothing to worry about. But if true, then it's hard to not think it means man-hate is ingrained in society. If it's true I don't know how you could ignore it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:01 PM
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yes it has to be private.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:05 PM
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I see like 1 thing on your list that might end up all women? Nobody is ever making the argument that you can't have an event that mostly one gender will show up to. People are miffed that if men put up a sign that says men only, you know damn well that someone is going to have a problem and if they take it far enough, the state will side with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:13 PM
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Boxing gyms Why is this such a common response to this topic? Does it come from a manual? We shouldn't need to get brain damage to get a men's only space, lol Not even saying defacto men's spaces aren't good, it's just funny that people say 'boxing gyms' specifically. Sounds old timey
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:26 PM
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yea, that is a little enraging
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:59 AM
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yes, trusting men to not use them for sex was their choice, which they are severely limiting now for the average man, because that trust was betrayed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:45 AM
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They just date from their social circles if they date. It's gonna be like Facebook, they see certain apps as boomer stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:01 PM
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I guess you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:19 PM
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What did OP want to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:22 PM
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So ignore those comments, and respond to ones like this with great examples of no-makeup. That's where the conversation is supposed to be, but then when this guys steps up with the pics, it looks like OP was bluffing bc she didn't think guys actually liked no-makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:14 PM
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I see this logic being used: If you said you liked "no makeup" and then posted a pic of someone with a tiny bit of makeup, that means you are wrong and we will continue the clownshow of too much makeup being normal Oh and if you post actual no makeup pics, we just ignore that because you are lying. Anyway we just do makeup for ourselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:05 PM
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Why is the snark squad not attacking this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:29 PM
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So what though? Didn't we build this civilization? Why would those who benefit from it not rely on us to fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:45 PM
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sober take! I can't believe how many cry babies refuse to even accept this simple narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:35 PM
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why would men with options put in effort and commit to somebody when a bunch of other dudes didn't have to? Because someone has to be the first to do the right thing when nobody else is. That's how you fix things rather than watch them burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:25 PM
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Interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:22 PM
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Maybe they inherently want to trust men? Why do we have to fuck women we have no intention of marrying? Every time we do that, we make women a little crazier
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:04 PM
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so you like scab labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:58 PM
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Maybe they were too trusting that men wouldn't hit and quit? Maybe they thought we were better? Most hoes aren't slutting it up for the thrill of it. They keep hoping these men will settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:57 PM
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I see that idea. It's convincing. But let me show another angle. What did the men who respect and leave women alone do during the past 5 decades to make sure the bad men didn't ruin everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:30 PM
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Hmm or maybe another way to look at my thing here is that I found yet another area of life that the boomers dined out on only to leave nothing for later generations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:48 PM
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That's a bad outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:43 PM
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But men weren't fat when the buffet opened. They all the sudden ate til their stomach exploded and got kicked out of the buffet for being terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:09 PM
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i don't see meritocracy happening. where is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:56 PM
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So men are the fatties in this metaphor?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:39 PM
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Capitalism is fucking amazing. It promotes wealth, meritocracy and rewards hard work I'm sure you'll be collecting that social security though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:37 PM
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like where?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:28 PM
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Right, we are taught to be individualists because that's great for Capitalism. And now we pay the price. Because the bad people were allowed to flourish and make a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:59 PM
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Yes, I agree and I'm sorry for the generalization. For those that never took part in the degeneracy, you are being punished along with those who did. The lesson here is that this movement has to be snuffed out wherever it is found. It is not conducive to a people's well being. It was only ever pushed on us to stimulate the economy. When we see it we must stand firm and put ourselves at risk of social stigma and financial hardship. I'm talking about calling men out IRL who brag about sleeping aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:57 PM
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men tend to lose interest after sex if they don't like the girl enough? That is a very animalistic way of thinking about men. I know we come from animals, but we choose what traits to rise above. That's the basis of civilization. We do not have to live that way. Men can create and live by higher virtues. I agree that women have agency in all this. But I am also a believer in the spiritual dimorphism of the sexes. In this dichotomy, men are the chosen leaders. As a result, it will naturally fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:49 PM
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Yes but in the 70s, the songs from men took on a distinct love em and leave em tone. It also had a phase out period in the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:31 PM
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In many non-western countries you see crackdowns on western thought creeping in. But here in the west, we love western neo-liberal capitalist norms, so I'm not sure how our future is anti-that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:18 PM
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There is a difference between the matriarch being a wage slave vs keeping the hearth and homefront. The latter is a full time job, and arguably this arrangement would be optimal for the sanity and togetherness of modern families.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:45 PM
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How old are you both?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:28 PM
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Isn't that why girls generally avoid getting drunk with new people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:09 PM
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you give him shit for banging sixes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:06 PM
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is he bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:03 PM
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why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:03 PM
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Marrying and having kids early works in a society where virtue is the norm and people are eager to perpetuate their amazing culture and ethnic group. As it stands everyone is mentally ill, selfish, poor, and ethnically suicidal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:45 PM
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OK but the stuff you are doing is honestly low-class and low-agency/cowardly. You may be rationalizing that fact by writing it all off as pumping and dumping to preserve your self image rather than considering that you are a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:04 PM
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I agree with all that, but I'll add it's even worse than that. Here is a group with no political agenda or real-life power, but an online movement. What's driving it? The selling of self-help products, supplements, workout gear etc etc! Super fucking sad the whole thing is just a scheme to push snake-oil to a market they create and maintain via dark internet spaces that prey on weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:32 PM
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I was really joking. But you can cook a study to show anything. There have been plenty of studies using self-reporting that I bet you would also discard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:35 PM
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Any identity group is a safe space for hating opposition groups or any that may take away from your pie. In a way, this is just how it should be. Every group has to have it's vanguard that pushes the agenda forward from the core. Feminism has had a log story, but in the end it's a rallying point for women as a political group to gather power and resources, just like every other identity group. Because that's how you get anything under democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:31 PM
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Do you hate men? No. (continues hating men)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:27 PM
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i mean if true, it destroys your argument which was presented without evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:26 PM
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The flex of not really needing it is what gives it rizz
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:23 PM
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Why is past escort use a problem? It seems analogous to having a problem with a high N-Count woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:37 PM
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Doing a thing that gets you the result you want is rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:59 PM
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I'm like a 6 and had some interesting experiences as well. That was a crazy time. The higher the girls number, it became exponentially harder for me to make anything happen. It was like I had to trick the really hot ones to do something with me. Came damn close a few times
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:30 PM
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I've seen both sexes try to get free therapy from their partner. Does it just give women the ick when men do it because they are supposed to be strong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:33 AM
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what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:31 AM
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what does telling someone that 'they have no business looking for a relationship' or 'a relationship shouldn't be of concern to you' accomplish? It's absolutely a benefit to women to goad less confident men out of the dating pool. To them, it's one less guy they might date and find out he needs work and help. There's a cold logic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:26 AM
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the beauty industry is terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:28 PM
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I'm all about that. Which ones come to mind for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:17 PM
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the morality of exploiting vice?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:41 PM
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so we can profit off their weakness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:51 PM
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1 - affirmative action caused the condition of men getting admitted to college less 2 - men decided college wasn't for them then, stopped applying 3 - women complain men don't make enough 4 - colleges complain men aren't applying, try to let men in with lower test scores to try and make more money 5 - men still not caring to be scammed Am I getting something wrong here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:36 PM
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Your example has a glaring difference in that it has vastly more available jobs. 18,600 vs 684,600. That's where the pay difference is coming from. I think you are talking up the difficulty of Home health Aide just a bit. I'd be interested to compare all the gendered jobs in there. There's quite a few to try from the men's side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:00 PM
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i'm talking about unskilled labor, or low skilled. not the trades
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:26 PM
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is that really apples to apples though? it's a job that anyone could do, but one sex has a natural inclination to apply
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:50 PM
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hance defacto enslavement. what i'm saying is that society has made massive adjustments to make sure all groups have access and are recorded doing the 'nice' jobs. but no effort has been made to push for that same equality in the not nice jobs. the fact is half of society won't do those jobs because they require male bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:21 PM
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but it cages men too. it was never meant to seriously empower 1 sex. feminism is an overcorrection combined with technology that was about to shake the foundations anyway. I believe we could reach an equitable compromise for 2.0
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:24 PM
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monogamy was always a male fantasy it was a cultural system developed over 100s of years and it was working. we should develop monogamy 2.0 so the human species can enjoy the future
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:32 PM
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sigh, but probly yea
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:24 PM
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oddly i was just coming here to post this. does feminism have an answer for the defacto enslavement of men when it comes to dirty labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:08 PM
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in america, we talk with our junk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:11 PM
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There is a societal pressure for men to rise to the challenge of being able to get a woman very early on and bed her at as young an age as possible, and then to show that you can consistently do that. Yea it's toxic as fuck. And I'm sure a feminist would say that pressure only comes from other men, so men are just holding themselves back yet again. But I'm not sure this is true. I think it comes from the culture which includes many sources. It as all things serves our economy somehow. I think me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:05 PM
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how much sex are we talking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:07 PM
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You can live without arms too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:42 PM
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Because men don't really have types in the way you are interpreting that. Yea he might feel very scared of actually dating you, but he would absolutely fuck-buddy you if he could.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:31 PM
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your fat funny guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:18 PM
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I'm extremely attracted to the funny fat guy in my group. Thankfully he isn't attracted to me (I'm too tall and he likes petite women) Sorry, but he's lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:12 PM
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That is a great irony of the whole situation. Many Millennials etc have turned out not mature enough to have a family. We sling mud at each other, but many of us are destined to be alone for the same reasons. This is a cultural failing imo, not a personal one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:24 PM
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He's pushing forty and has decided not to get married. He constantly bangs women he's not attracted to. OK yea that's disgusting behavior. I can understand though. If you believe society has fallen, there's little incentive to take the hard route and try and uphold tradition. Many TRP guys seem to understand how things got fucked, but they choose to watch it burn and go out fuckin'. It's a deep selfishness that has come out of the 20th century social legacy. I try to shame them for it, but it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:21 PM
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I see. Christianity doesn't worry me much anymore. It seems like it's time is over and we are just waiting for it to fade. I like your passion, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:36 PM
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Is lucifer just whatever people want him to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:16 PM
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good new hoe math video on how modern feminism/whatever is going on leads to the end of ethnic groups https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01LBdVBNlyI
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:23 PM
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"wow some work environments are incredibly competitive and men don't want to hang out with me during work and are just focused on the job" Has that been a thing? I'd like to see the posts haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:23 PM
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I just want to say I am a rabid anti-capitalist. In America, the lower-middle class is suffering a great humiliation of being gutted. The Economic precarity we feel is an insult to the generations that helped build us up to the point where we should be prosperous. But greed and evil by our ruling class is making sure that wealth is never again shared with the rabble. So that's where we stand, and that's the war that has to take place. Wages, treatement, legal protection are all oppressive on an …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:56 PM
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TRPillers don't believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:28 PM
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She even says as much. "What happened to his game?" But it seems to me, such guys never had game. They didn't "Run Game" to get their wives. They just were themselves and the girl was interested, so they spent time together and she allowed herself to imprint. Nobody talk about this. The imprint phase is also seen jokingly as the honeymoon phase. The girl floods the guy with sex because she's exited about the relationship and it helps greatly to lock him in. IDK. It just seems like an elephant in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:31 PM
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Equality is a Red Herring We have equality under the law already. If you mean equality of outcome, you look like the craziest conspiracy theorist trying to prove how the system is secretly rigged for men. You ignore nature's greatest gift to humans. 2 sexes that are very different yet perfectly complimentary. When you deny this you advocate for the reshaping of all humans into robotic clones
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:30 PM
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OK I concede. I googled and this is the first thing that came up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:26 PM
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Ever read Motte and Bailey's book on Feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:12 PM
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This is relevant I think https://youtu.be/irDP45lAiyw?si=PvcY5RT1m4mMOPi9
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:55 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:14 PM
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has anyone tried an algo where essentially its more expensive for you to use the app the higher smv you are? i think it could be done
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:56 PM
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It’s not lack of options, too many options, dating apps This just looks like double-booking. If one sex can double-book and treat you like a poker hand, then we have a huge imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:49 PM
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Huge chance she always double books and took the opportunity to get to the next one early, or just go to her backup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:47 PM
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thoughts on women accidentally advocating for a rollback of the sexual revolution? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyf4GXT_oWA
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:43 PM
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We need to go over real examples here. Because you're crazy if you don't think women often make emotion-based decisions. It's dimorphism denial
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:13 PM
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According to this forum we can't speculate beyond what women say because 'why would they not say what they mean?'
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:11 PM
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No, that's just a super uncharitable assessment. People know that fiction isn't real. The problem is there is a game people played out there, and some are not even aware it's going on. It really appears that this benefits women, because the less men know that there is a game, the less they can max their stats. And that way, the women only have the naturally best guys in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:36 PM
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Romcoms and kids shows definitely lied to me and I do hold a grudge about it. But this just leads to the question of who is supposed to be teaching men what they need? The parents of course, who are too fucking busy and tired working to pay the bills in this god-forsaken country. Repairing the quality of people and families is a conscious action on the part of the state. And it's against the values of the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:53 PM
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a new sexual revolution. that's when they trashed the old system. it can be done
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:51 PM
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you have man-hating energy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:49 PM
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I agree. So we just need to figure out if everyone is going to be gaming the sexual marketplace when they are older, how young do we start them so they don't get left out, and how do we ramp it up so it's not just sexualizing kids. Or do we trash the whole marketplace and do something else
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:55 PM
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Because it's part of a pattern of terrible advice for men. It's the reason there is a market for redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:53 PM
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Mums aren’t going to tell their 10 year sons to start benching and dressing sharp lmao I've heard the argument from women on here that girls are from a very young age conditioned to start maximizing themselves in the beauty game etc. So is that wrong? Or should we just start catching men up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:19 PM
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Right, is she a neo fascist or something? :D She is basically arguing against a basic precept of the modern west. Unless like yknow, that was never a real value and it was just a convenient argument people use to get political points. It's completely abandoned when men want a piece of the action. Do effin bad outcomes indicate inequality or not? If not, then let's revisit income inequality, stat
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:13 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:42 PM
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aging in a relative sense. a lot of guys who can effortlessly pull lose their mojo around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:32 PM
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so it goes. it will usually be him that does something dumb like cheat, abuse, or even dump her for some random reason. then he will realize he's aging and want her back
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:27 PM
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thats what all the orbiters will tell her, which will make her feel better, and so she won't feel the need to dump him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:22 PM
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Her bf has her in neg stasis. She will stay with him until he does something really dumb because him not being impressed by her looks drives her crazy in a way that makes her need to sexually pursue him to preserve her self-worth. and while she's at it, she will recruit the help of simps and orbiters online to tell her she's pretty https://np.reddit.com/r/truerateme/comments/1asg62d/21_female_pls_rate_me/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:44 PM
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I agree outright female hate is dumb and only hurts us all. At the same time, while I do see anti-male hate on reddit, what I see more is women unable or unwilling to do bird's eye level analysis of our society. So we have a venn diagram of weaknesses for both sexes. Also I'm convinced if you hang out in the wrong subs, you will start to develop a distorted worldview. These subs thrive on confirmation bias and using reddit as evidence of real life. Absolutely run away from reddit if you find you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:43 PM
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can you say for sure she wouldn't date bezos if the conditions were right? who are you to tell her dating a record-setting star football player is a bad way to start a dynasty?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:51 PM
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its called begging the question. i notice a lot of fallacy is indulged in within these walls. because one side is empowered and many of their members that choose to post here are interested in gaslighting and stymieing the discussion of how to balance that power any good faith discussion between the sides is going to result in some kind of solution or compromise that would only reduce the power of one side. why would they want that? well the few of that side who are struggling to find dates migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:46 PM
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thanks for the study
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:47 PM
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Yes but that's what pisses off the herd. Pickmes and alt-people, or just people who seem to be not playing all undermine the group power in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:50 PM
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You realize women also have an intrasexual hierarchy similar to the male dominance hierarchy? Admitting this undermines the blue pill premise that none of this stuff is motivated by unstated primal instincts etc. They want to gaslight people into thinking there is no game being played here consciously or not; no sexual strategy being employed; no competition for power between the sexes. But you are purple pill so yea high five. I would say though that yea it feels good, but more importantly it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:48 PM
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being pushy secretly endears everyone to you in life. it's like everyone is your victim with Stockholm syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:10 PM
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very true! there are many plusses it seems. with IRL rejection, you still get this rush after, and you upgrade your 'rizz' a little with each try
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:06 PM
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seems that way at first until you get your skin. getting steadily soft rejected online wreaks slow havok over time. it wears on you like acid. like water dripping and hollowing out a mountain over a 1000 years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:02 PM
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tell me I have pretty eyes I was in some coversations here recently where men are being told that's a no no. You have to find something about them and lie about it. Like 'I really like your purse!'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:00 PM
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it feels better to be rejected IRL than on the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:23 PM
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seems like a lot of gaslighting on here. a lot of "that's not happening and if it is, it's actually a good thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:20 PM
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the fact i couldn't see them naked before was actually good more me in the long run. i went and found something else to do with my brain and kept my money too. you need to keep vices out of people's hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:56 PM
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but it's intrinsically related to gambling since nobody would have a dogfight without being able to gamble on it. i get that the reason it's illegal is because its cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:54 PM
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i literally came on just to say why don't we outlaw only fans. seems like an obvious win, yet everyone here is determined to hold the L
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:50 PM
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nope there's a demand for every thing that's illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:40 PM
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not in our weak ass society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:40 PM
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people only have dogfights to gamble though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:40 PM
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yea but you can't have a dogfight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:04 PM
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so would making lots of bad things legal be. i hope you don't the economy would be suffering without it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:03 PM
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most of gambling is illegal and the rest is seriously regulated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:01 PM
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it kind of is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:00 PM
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i fucking love socialism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:00 PM
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most things that we make illegal were a source of income for someone, so that's irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:55 PM
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why dont we outlaw onlyfans? i mean nobody likes it thats not in it. most people in society dont like it. it sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:51 PM
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that's easy to say when big money creates a political vehicle for every group including women. but men don't get that privilege. this power dynamic shifts society's views. it's not really an organic reaction to men being shitty. if women couldn't have lobbying, you'd then see them getting a bad rep magically. all the stuff the worst of MRA dream up would start to be accepted by society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:19 AM
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If it bugs them so much do something about these men How many votes about being tough on crime are neutered by women's overall influence in democracy? I'm just spitballing, but I'm betting it's a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:33 PM
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This just doesn't fit my office experience and I've done it for over 20 years. Others are having confusion here too. This must vary greatly between country and class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:42 PM
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If we got a trend of guys 'working on themselves' that made say 70-80% of guys able to get dates, would that be acceptable? or will guys on here still be mad until we get the number to like 98%?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:53 PM
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strap on a cranberry juice cus we going daily in this house
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:08 PM
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Because equality was a lie, women wanting equality was a lie. Women want things to be how they were before they were 'helped out' in the sexual revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:09 PM
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I agree! The only validity tradwife signaling would have without kids is in the case of a woman trying to attract a childfree rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:09 PM
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Yes, let's just have more capitalist realism. That will help!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:04 PM
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choosing a career instead, working women are destroying the family dynamic and not living up to their expectations as women. And that message is often conveyed by tradwife content creators. But the only defense anyone ever makes of duel-income is that most people need it to get by in america. No one ever makes the argument it's somehow better for the kids/family or even just as good. Everyone kinda knows it's worse on average. Nobody wants to attack working moms. We all need to come together and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:22 AM
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We submit to the idea that we are all individuals, which is basically a lie to aid in selling us stuff and keep us politically impotent. Wake up. Pure individualism doesn't exist except as a dystopian nightmare. If we submit to this, we become subordinate to all the people who have even the smallest group identity. Males missed the starting gun on this one (not their fault) Society is not going to repair itself without men collectivizing. It's up to us. There's no amount of complaining men can d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:16 PM
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I made a post about this once. My thought now is that the way forward is males coming together and creating explicit male spaces. Clearly nothing implicit is safe in our society
/r/MensRights12/01/24 01:30 PM
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There are a ton of TRP boomers in here not satisfied to have their own spaces already. They need the dopamine hit of repeating the same stuff in here every day and essentially expanding their space. The original space is inhospitable because it devolves into pure chest thumping zones of constant mogging. not very fun for them in their own space. so they come out here in great numbers and convince nobody because their philosophy is not robust enough. they don't know that a lot of their movement c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:02 PM
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i mean it's still a distinct category known as "powerful/influential.'"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:08 PM
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you agree with him. he says the uglier you are, the more status you will need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:49 PM
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its crazy how defensive people get out in the world if you say something vaguely philosophical. all they can feel is that something is getting disrupted or they might have to do something and they try to shut it down
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:26 PM
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I prefer to date nihilist men on here who think we should let society burn as long as our dicks are still getting wet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:16 PM
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Its just a foot massage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:59 PM
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You act like people hated their lives before the 60s deconstructed everything. People were happier before then I assure you. And they had plenty of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:09 PM
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Yes, it happens the same way with animals too. But as a civilization, we developed mores so we didn't have to be slaves to these base animal mechanisms. We invented complex things like 'waiting to have sex' so we didn't get blinded by our chemicals. And still people defend the breakdown of these mores as if it was some innovation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:05 PM
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Yes but that's when we decided culturally to merge limerence with love and pretend it was gonna work. It was clearly a play to appeal to people's vanity to stimulate sales of all kinds, among other dark benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:51 PM
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The emphasis on 'love' as some magical force is what got us here. That's a 20th century perversion meant to mess you up and it worked. The real deal is family building and leaving a legacy. Love is an element subordinate to that higher goal. Love is better thought of as a feeling of happiness when you pair someone with as high of virtues as yourself. But it's been twisted into thinking that lust and infatuation are indicators of something more. Any feeling of love that occurs during the early se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:41 PM
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I must have missed that as I kinda just jumped in. But you don't believe we have subconscious sexual drives that manifest in every day decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:32 PM
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“you’re subconsciously looking for a man!” See, why does my argument have to be interpreted in the harshest possible terms? You are telling me even a nosejob is a completely personal preference as if in a vacuum, and I'm just trying to get you to admit that it's in a context of sexuality, whether active, inactive, conscious or subconscious, healthy or unhealthy. Not something like you are thirsting over men and hunting them like a cougar in heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:35 PM
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why is it a problem that 'women are, men become?' seems like a perfectly sound natural law that's easy enough to work with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:15 PM
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Well, what informs a personal preference? Do I just choose from any available shoe in the world and wear it? or is there some social context that it always gets filtered through? Young beautiful women getting their entire neck tattoo'd so it looks like they took a dip in tar. Is that just a random personal preference that has nothing to do with society?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:55 PM
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Every man can be tripping themselves to be with you, but if you’re insecure about your nose, you’re getting a nose job whether men like it or not. Wouldn't it seem logical that the underlying motivation would be attractiveness, rather than some desire to have the perfect nose? I'm sure you will deny that, because attractiveness implies some desire to 'please men' which apparently is very triggering to people on here. Let's also take into account it could be subconscious, as our evolved sexual in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:56 PM
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The essence of this problem comes down to: 1 - an issue that grown adults are supposed to be able to work out 2 - evidence of a corrupt state and a failing economy It's BS to try to use this as leverage against men on any other level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:37 PM
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Group teamwork gives you a boost in the west. Doesn't really matter if you like each other, still gonna get that bag. Of course if you liked each other, it would be even better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:09 PM
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Whats the chad lite stance on ppd?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:52 AM
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lmao that was over dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:25 PM
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solid plan
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:53 PM
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looks is like a #1 valued thing in society, so women seeking out NFT men could fit into evo-psyche in that way. rather than possessing much gold, he embodies it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:33 PM
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At what point though is calling something immature just another way of calling something wrong? You just didn't want to own the fact you are making a moral judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:21 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:52 PM
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People being guided by short term feelings like lust is a systemic issue not conducive to furthering ones civilization. At some point a population has to become more family-building oriented or find themselves on the suicidal path we are on now. Men are also to blame in this situation, but it's really our uncaring government at the root. Men and women find themselves in a stalemate of nobody wanting to grow up because the other won't. But women have the added layer of having society restructured…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:59 PM
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like did she start unloading about her office job, or was she in more of a greek philosophy mood? i wish i could have seen it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:19 PM
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my pussy has elected to go in a different direction No! If she's being honest, then he came over attempting to withhold dick until she committed to a relationship. And sex was* off the table* if she wouldn't. Call me crazy, but like 1% of guys might be capable of this kind of psychopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:13 PM
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he said they talked about life for 30 min and he was ready to be done. this guy is all business lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:56 PM
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Can people please stop using the garbage hiphop culture concept known as "catching feelings?" What a disgusting idea; that humans just fuck and the bonding that comes with it is some kind of disease. And also everyone who thinks that she was capable of politely asking to change their arrangement is an internet brained autist. Anyone who thinks they can make this deal with a woman and not be expected to commit later is willfully ignorant of women's nature or just naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:54 PM
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its should have the same equipment in both areas if they're gonna do it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:37 PM
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they aren't competing on the established market
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:56 PM
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na that shit doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:06 PM
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true, but this doesn't prove it's good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:57 PM
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its not cringe if he got laid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:55 PM
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I can hold men accountable when needed and suggest systemic issues at the same time as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:01 PM
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RP men will blame women for “choosing badly” and encouraging said man to be violent or dangerous. On the flip side if a man is violent and it turns out that he is constantly rejected by women (and perhaps has never even been with a woman) RP men will argue that it’s women’s fault because rejecting said man made him angry and disillusioned. These seem to be consistent to me. Women reward violent 10's with sex, and create violent 5's by not dating regular 5's These 2 things can absolutely be true …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:36 PM
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if anything I'd blame feminism and capitalism for erasing honor for aging women. in the capitalist-feminist world, a women who can't exercise sexual power and/or make money is failing. she's useless to the machine. a perfect example is the crazy number of women who perpetually dye their hair so you never see them go gray. redpill guys did NOT do that. that was modernity all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:09 PM
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offering being a great housewife and child bearer would be worth SO much more than making as much or more money than the man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:04 PM
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sure, but is that logic scalable? oftentimes it's easier to do the immoral thing. not only that, but our society has degenerated to the point where people don't really know what's 'moral.' morality has been rewritten to something closer to the non-aggression principle, but even that is negotiable in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:35 AM
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So much pointing the finger at various members of the sexes. It just feels like a pissing match. Nobody is going to act better because there are no incentives. The only thing that will save us is better people taking over the state and enforcing subjective values again, whatever those will be. We had a chance to do it right with our freedom, and we decided to be selfish and shit the bed. So now we will lose that freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:27 PM
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its a chicken and egg type thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:39 PM
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just goofin
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:44 PM
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replace boobs with knees
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:29 PM
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how can you spin plates when you can't get the 1st plate spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:28 PM
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the problem is that for the average person to have more free time, they need to have more money, yes, under capitalist realism. thank you u/shrewzane
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:02 PM
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I also noticed a pattern of women my age who were not single who wanted me to give them attention. I often would find out afterwards. I literally met some girl’s parents before I knew she had a boyfriend. This is almost seinfeldian
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:27 PM
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What percentage of guys suffer from this? I'd say proponents of the SMP are secretly thinking a certain percentage does not get to breed, and that strengthens the genepool. I wish they'd be more open about it instead of letting people like you wallow and suffer until they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:09 PM
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let a brother oxidize
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:04 PM
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in every other online space, plain looking women will start posts saying nobody is interested in them, and then the internet rises up to proclaim oh no you are so pretty or girl i would totally hit on you if you weren't in alaska etc. she usually makes these posts in the small periods between boyfriends. but in ppd, plain girls posts the same thing, and it looks true because this is not an appropriate place to do the normal replies of building her up and hitting on her via dm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:01 PM
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philosophy reaches a point where you know what you have to do, but it's going to result in a mass upheaval, so you don't do it and opt to endlessly spin your wheels with other cowardly philosophers pretending to be still searching for that perfect thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:44 PM
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wtf 150 at age 20? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_j6k2l_Yb4
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:41 PM
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yes, that still doesn't change fact kids are getting into it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:32 PM
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you can be authoritarian without being far right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:50 PM
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haha ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:23 PM
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Take the authoritarian pill. Libertarians never win anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:20 PM
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No harm in cutting the tentacles off one by one. I'm sure everyone would be relieved that their little boys didn't have instant access anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:18 PM
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In my early 30s, I pulled a much younger girl LTR from cold approach in a store.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:17 PM
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We could just take over the government and put a stop to all the porn. It's a curse on us all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:13 PM
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Yes, they need to do this. But men are the natural leaders and pathfinders. We have to go in first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:13 PM
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why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:12 PM
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I agree with the basic idea. We are in a virtue crisis, and this is the complaint I see from women all over this sub, but in different wordings. Men need to philosophically ascend to their potential. Our society is dying. There is work do be done to preserve and heal it. Men need to drop the video games and hit the books and the gym. Let's take away all the ammo from women on here who complain that the average man is not great. Of course they are going to pursue short term excitement with no mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:11 PM
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when do they not say a pop star is talented? these are people chosen to occupy the space of new priests and seers. it's not organic. it's top down. you too could be trained to lipsync to your autotuned vocals and dance a practiced routine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:55 PM
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they are telling kids that eating butt is cool with the pull of mass media. tell me again about how 'popular' things aren't manufactured
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:48 PM
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A couple women decided to fight fire No there's always been a subgenre of women willing to make raunchy music. They look ridiculous but who cares when you get short term attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:08 PM
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you can't actually believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:04 PM
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Men have a real sexuality society wants to control by gaslighting and suppressing men. Society wants to completely profit from male sexuality by putting all this porn for the young, and things to make men horny and out of their minds; tiktok, instagram and youtube pushing titties at you until you make it stop, if you have the agency. They want our only outlet to be consumption of the endorsed products like going to a female rapper show or buying some merch or something, or just continuing to wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:42 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:48 PM
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another trend that will die is people trying to live forever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:25 PM
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i remember the emotional turmoil in my dating days about feeling like i was shallow for not wanting to stay with fat girls or show them to my parents
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:36 PM
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I was out in the world yesterday and saw some young couples where the guy was the 'worse' looking one. I also saw some chad and stacy couples. I also saw a chad-lite with a huge fat woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:29 PM
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dont people just make the rounds at parties? you are supposed to walk away too. if you run into each other later, you talk more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:26 PM
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being able to see what every poster in this sub looked like would mean so much more than the words they type
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:31 PM
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yes, i think the hot guys know who they are and milk this to the fullest extent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:40 PM
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brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:27 PM
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It always comes down to being screwed by money. We shouldn't have to live in this fear. Of course there are things like life insurance, and family help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:17 PM
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My husband and I work the same job, at the same company and clock the same amount of hours per week and have exactly the same salary. Should he take care of his child? A modern terrible situation many couples find themselves in. Sure, in that case, lets start dividing up chores and do the whole bit. But it's the wrong future. We should be changing society so people don't need to do duel income. And also so that women reject capitalist feminism and embrace their inherent spiritual roles as keeper…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:29 PM
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this sounds like some BPD related thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:22 PM
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But they aren't dressing to show of sexual attributes to other men. They're dressing so that they themselves see themselves as sexy and attractive. how do we put this idea to bed forever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:47 PM
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i think the obvious conflict is the habit men get into of following a bunch of thots/egirls on the gram. or even yea if they followed some or were even 'friends' with them before the relationship, it's problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:44 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:42 PM
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If a guy and a girl start hooking up, 9 times out of 10, unless a discussion was had, she's going to assume he likes her for something long-term. And then they lose their mind if he cuts them off, bangs someone else, or keeps it going forever without committing. Like.. this is the actual system that occurs. Is it broken? Hell yea. But we are in denial of certain things and won't create a better one. Clearly women get attached when they have sex with a person and their mind is not specifically se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:17 PM
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also the fact that more women are getting into college could point to discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:23 PM
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yes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:02 PM
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Beginning a massive word salad with TL;DR has got to be some kind of crime
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:09 PM
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this is the most soulless...what is this shit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVsSGD21Upw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:58 PM
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Mens rights is about protecting mens' rights. Intersectional radfem is about hating men and manipulating them, falsely accusing them, and denigrating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:04 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you say. But it seems to me that the theoretical spectrum of 'mens rights <--> womens rights' is coherent and valid. There are many reasons mens rights has not met with political success and the last of those reasons would be invalidity imo. I didn't mean to say that TRP was as valid as MRA, though. I could see TRP as the crazy wing if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:17 PM
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so its a good counterbalance to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:16 PM
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I'll say that it's natural for a girl to be attracted to a bad boy on some level, but if she acts on it and tries to date them in hopes of a stable relationship, that's mental
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:12 PM
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the apps give us the illusion of convenience. its hopefully a passing fad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:01 PM
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far fewer women back then had expectations of getting a top 1% guy. if this is true, then it explains a lot. do we have data on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:36 PM
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Maybe slut and incel are valid opposite ends of the spectrum. A slut is someone who overused her power and tried out too many guys, causing chaos in her social circles and local dating pools. An incel is a guy who didn't step up and develop his masculine power, fails to spread his seed, and causes chaos in society by lashing out in other ways. These are both people who do society a disservice by not participating in the cycle of healthy family building.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:05 PM
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A lot of people that post here actually want you to fail because misery loves company, and there's less competition for them if you take yourself out of the game. Take any positive advice you see here, and ignore the blackpill dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:36 PM
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So many scandalous thread titles come on my radar from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:05 PM
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being not autistic is the norm because most people are born not autistic. that doesn't mean society is taught to hate them. but yea, women might not want to breed with them and make more autistics. is that wrong? also, rather than normalizing it, we could do several things now to curb the autism explosion that is clearly related to screentime
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:05 PM
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Sometimes I think a lot of redpill science is really just the science of dating floozies. My wife is actually disturbed at my lack of emotion. I wish I could change it, but I just can't drop that armor and cry sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:42 PM
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I agree with you. But my conclusion is it's a broken system. You have to account for human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:11 PM
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anti-poor take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:41 PM
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get that bag!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:41 PM
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yes, but at the same time, there's a baseline you won't go below. i don't think i'm saying anything crazy here. this translates to some pretty concrete decisions especially in OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:22 PM
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meh, are we pretending that looks don't matter now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:23 PM
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that wasn't too bad actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:48 PM
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isn't OLD like messaging tons of mediocre girls just hoping to get a reply, even though in real life you know you could easily talk up such a girl successfully? you end up lowering your standards so much just to get a reply that when you date them its like oh crap i don't actually want to date a girl that looks like this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:39 PM
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way better than the opposite, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:13 PM
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so much of this to me sadly looks like men being pushed out of the genepool
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:01 PM
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strawman! i said clubbing. whats at the club you need so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:03 PM
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"Women don't do that bad thing! But even if they do, that's fine too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:07 PM
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no they raise a good point. if my wife wanted to do a ladies dinner, that's cool. ladies clubbing though? get out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:04 PM
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And likewise, many women realize having babies was the best thing that ever happened to them, even though it was far from a hell yes. What now, childless man hater?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:21 PM
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I agree. I think the PUA thing should be dropped. It's making men as a whole look bad to the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:24 PM
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ok i got confused, maybe he is too. i think you layed out a good case about how to approach IRL. at the end of the day, you may talk to some girls you aren't attracted to enough to marry, but it's not a great habit either. i think it's also pretty hard to honestly say to yourself "i know enough about this woman other than she's pretty" before starting to talk to them. the most fair is you talk to them because they are attractive and then find out you don't like who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:03 PM
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thats.. a lot of activities! are you single despite having all these great ways to meet like-minded men? (if you are single, i dont know)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:58 PM
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I think a large percentage of people who lurk around online are people with serious jealousy/bitterness issues about the real world, who would love nothing more than to spoil the day/life of someone who still has a chance to make it out there. The childless man hater telling women not to have babies. The PUA boomer who tries to poison your marriage so there more meat out there for him to scoop up. The woman with resting bitch face who can't get approached. The landwhale that nobody wants. She's …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:44 PM
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is this an honest question? it's valid to be attracted to someone physically and then want to get to know them. the idea that it should always happen in reverse is just a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:38 PM
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ah the classic horror image of the past whenever someone tries to imply that things have gotten worse. thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:03 AM
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teens have always been impulsive, but i'm talking about before the 1950s/60s. its like a different world
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:58 PM
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it really wasn't long ago that what i'm saying was common sense taught to children. all of this bullshit we think is normal is just modern degenerate chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:30 PM
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you know, it is possible to delay those feelings until after you know the person is virtuous. didn't they ever teach you in school that lust and infatuation are actually bad things to start a relationship with? if you take every time you get butterflies as a magical sign that you should be in a relationship with someone, you are going to just get repeatedly pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:15 PM
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Algo matters. I see none of that on tiktok. It shows me cool animal content and other funny stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:25 PM
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One time I got carried away on here and said something like that. Got a long ban really fast! I forget for how many days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:23 PM
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I can't imagine how incredibly boring your life is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:52 AM
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i've seen them 🤣 but i know what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:47 AM
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na get the antinatalist out of the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:42 PM
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this is reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:40 PM
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its from married red pill
/r/ExRedPill13/10/23 12:58 PM
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if none of these steps work with your marriage, just get divorced, you'll be happier!
/r/ExRedPill12/10/23 02:08 PM
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this is pure fear posting. that gym shit is overhyped. dont worry about it. go do things other people are doing. quit video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:47 PM
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or honestly he already has that
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/23 01:19 PM
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Well one step would be to ban porn. The people who legally fought to make sure porn would be completely legal in the 20th century knew exactly what they were doing. It was all about money for them at the expense of the health of the general population. When you open up predatory markets that feed on our vices, there is no limit to the depravity that you will reach. There is no market limiter that can stop the eventual legalization of types of porn that I will not mention, but we all know. If you…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 12:11 PM
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Women aren’t seeking prettier men, they are dismayed about the lack of fun, progressive men do you really want an MSNBC boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:38 PM
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the part you can't talk about on reddit so it seems like such a small problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:34 PM
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Mutual settling is a thing and it's the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:31 PM
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The 'free love' thing lasted about 40 years, and it was terrible. why are you confused about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:24 PM
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Never ask a group of people a question like this unless you want to get the "I HAVE SEX" crowd awakened
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:41 PM
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I think women take all these pandering affirmations for granted. I think if they disappeared, they would feel it. I wish men had them. People need boosts from on high or else they feel like they aren't served by their society. And not just as humans, but specific subgroups. And some are conspicuously forgotten about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:35 PM
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I don't really feel like I'm getting a good faith engagement from you. Let me ask you this: say we moved on some of my ideas. we establish maybe a review board that decided if a business was preying on human loneliness to make a profit, and shut them down if so, and issued penalties and punishments. What bad thing would then happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:40 PM
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it was a weather channel that only had sexy model-looking girls. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Then that’s a male issue. How is male delusion a woman’s problem? Males are half the population, so a male issue is a humanity issue. We should be helping them if they need it. the desire to be with an attractive women is part of male sexuality. just like there are things we would consider to be part of women's sexuality. we don't question those. we protect them as a society. here we have an incredibly potent creation of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:43 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:28 PM
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well the weather channel she was on is a thinly failed e-girl thing, just to clarify that. japan has a way more developed simp culture where the girls basically can't be seen with a man ever, so that's a cultural difference we don't have. but if you look at the core concept of e-girl streamers, only fans etc etc, can we really see it as anything but a business model that makes money from lonely men and perpetuating their condition? I'm sorry but if we aren't having serious ethical debates about …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:26 PM
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let's hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:24 PM
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There is a problem here of media that should really be outlawed. After the recent incident in japan with the weather girl who was really an egirl and all the fans losing their mind when she dated a chad, the simps came up with a term for it that I cannot pronounce, but it means "business that preys on vulnerable men." I don't know if that got any traction, but I think it's smart. That's a completely coherent category that is worthy of at least some regulation. It's out of control. We live under …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:23 PM
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it's incredibly stressful and miserable most of the time. funny because that hasn't been my experience. and the childless older women I know are scrambling to see if they can still have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:30 PM
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i do remember all the messages i got growing up about how to get women being such a mixed bag of mostly rubbish. it would have been nice to have a clear picture. it almost seems malicious. or the world has just changed so much in like 40 years or so. this conversation has come up on here before. I remember one female voice saying that girls do get clear and accurate advice in this realm and it was odd that men didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:54 PM
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ok true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:12 PM
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if that's the case then it should be no problem to change the laws. there should never be a case where a man was willing to try or doing his best and still got divorced with the settlement not in his favor. If the court see's he's doing his best, then he should owe nothing and get full custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:53 PM
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Life is so much better without them objectively not true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:57 PM
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meh, its close enough. men may be able to claw there way back and get a decent career/life going, despite a considerable momentum in the opposite direction. women may still be able to pull a decent enough guy despite the wall making it considerable harder to pull men how they did when they looked young
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:44 PM
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ok that makes sense. but its also an argument for keeping the right ratio of smart people around
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:53 PM
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🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:34 PM
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is it height? sorry for my ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:12 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/dating-app-best-men-uk-b2286421.html are the apps just a failed idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:31 PM
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looksmaxing is a must then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:30 PM
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most guys who go to them are trying to get chicks and women can smell it a mile away maybe but the scheme can still work. if a woman is single and looking, she'll be happy you showed up to the wine tasting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:12 PM
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I see a lot of replies in here really trying hard to frame the women who lose their drive as still the good guys. Yes I get that it's a big problem out there with guys being shitty, but I really think that's a minority of cases. And of course kids get in the way. I think we are deliberately trying to distract from the very common behavior of women to flood the man with sex in the beginning. This tells the man that this women likes sex just as much as him. Then the woman pulls back after the 'hon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:15 PM
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if I was an alien, based on these replies, I'd think that women were highly emotional beings and relied intensely on transient chemical stats to navigate the world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:50 PM
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by denying that they have sexual strategy built-in, they actually let it run rampant and ruin their thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:13 PM
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but if women's opinion on this is informed purely by their sexual strategy, it's pretty ironic that they would get mad that men have an opinion informed by their own sexual strategy. like we both get to be sexual or no one does
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:10 PM
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there seems to be a collective denial about male sexuality, how it works, and when its expressed. women don't realize the way men interact with each other is SO different from how they have to present in the world which defaults treats maleness as out of line
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:06 PM
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misled would be the guy continuing the friendship thinking he was gonna get some at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:58 PM
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I think based on the fact that we could fuck a new dick every hour of the day but don't that we've limited ourselves pretty well. I got the sense that the women of this forum mostly disagree with that. It's too dangerous and low quality to try. but point taken
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:56 AM
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men's biological sexuality is kind of rape based, but we all agree to do a society where rape is wrong and enforce it by law. but women have no such limitation on their sexuality, so it falls on women to limit themselves. this would be honorable and bring about equality in the power dynamic. but what have they done instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:03 AM
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maybe both sexes are systematically programmed with unrealistic standards while growing up. to sell more makeup and beer or what have you. there's enough (1) women for each man out there and vice versa. and probably good looks matches too. we just can't get them together because they are all floating around in the dating world. its a damn mess. not much of an upgrade from pairing off in the old days before the idea of dating was the standard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:03 PM
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then all sex work has to go, including all simp streamers and porn, because that shit completely treats men's sexuality as a pathetic thing to be milked ruthlessly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:32 PM
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in this one area that could act as an equalizer between men and women controlling the sexual marketplace, we must use the power of the government in full force to make sure it never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:12 PM
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wait what do you think life would be like if women skewed more into politics than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:32 PM
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maybe you could block me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:02 PM
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Ok but sports can give you many other benefits that can lead to women naturally. Being in shape and around people is pretty much a master key to all this. hard to believe you don't see that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:00 PM
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Date just means fuck to me. r/ TRP guys peacocking on reddit instead of being out there swimming in sad pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:12 PM
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Would you date / marry a girl who looks like this? https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/huddersfield-vine-star-tish-simmonds-18473993 Or doom her to feel so unattractive that she wants to try life as a boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:19 PM
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isn't it always implied that if the guy plays his cards right, be it being nice, romantic, gift giving, or otherwise, she will return those efforts with romance and sex? i mean thats why we are on a date, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:01 PM
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if society's natural course becomes disgenic, then it's on us to put it back on track. the reasons for all this are cultural, and that can absolutely be manipulated with the right will
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:25 PM
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the solution is not complaining and being stressed; and its not acceptance. its bringing about leaders that will fix all this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:01 PM
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this one seems more robust https://smartwealth.sg/average-income-salary-singapore/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:48 PM
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Average Income/Salary in Singapore $45,066 Also do we give any weight to continuing our ethnic groups ? You didn't try any viable areas in the US. who cares about the places you tried. full of wannabe rich and elite trash https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/4ucf0k/the_sarong_party_girls_spgs_of_singapore_even_a/d5onqzd/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:28 PM
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in real life or this forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:16 PM
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Well I went and touched grass and surveyed 2 women since you made the qualification about me being male. Here is what was said: I'm sure people get comments like that still but only bc that's small talk. And ppl like babies; bundles of joy as it were. I don't think ppl grow up terrified on average from this. PPL say those things because they are true for the overwhelming majority. It's mothers who are saying these things for sure. So I will concede that things are still said by moms. But the jur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:11 PM
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there are factors at play in the lives of the rich and famous that we cannot possibly know. discard it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:40 PM
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Why does every woman have to have kids? i wouldn't mandate that, either. i would change the propaganda policy to exalt motherhood. i can't speak to the world, but the pro-natalist stuff you see in american stores is just capitalists trying to make money off lingering natalist sentiment, and it's changing. I'll have to look next time i'm in target, but the majority of girls toys were not about raising babies and doing house chores. they are about satisfying one's self or being a girlboss. the mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:13 AM
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this is why i say engineer. right now we are engineered with a narrative that its equally fulfilling and important to choose childlessness. but that could be replaced in a generation with a new narrative that says having children is the way, and that motherhood is a position of great honor
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:02 AM
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we live in a time where dating across class boundaries is more acceptable and common than at any previous point in human history not seeing it in my experience. you see a lot of upper class people dating down?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:56 PM
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Do you really think it would be a good thing to decrease male sexual inequality by somehow restoring economic and security need for men? Raising children the modern way is going very poorly. We would be SO much better off engineering society back to SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:54 PM
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They barely tolerate me being sick haha yea its like they dont believe you unless theres blood gushing, and even then its like 'why were you being reckless!'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:05 PM
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no matter how modern my woman was, they always reacted badly when i acted vulnerable, insecure, or not like a leader etc the things they tell us are lies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:04 PM
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But from the other side, we should not gaslight women who are complaining about state of men. It gets obscured because women cannot distill their complaints down to one root. But here it is: lack of virtue. We really can't deny we have a virtue crisis in men. Women too, but men are the natural leaders. It's no wonder women just default to the hottest guy as the goal. Most guys are lacking virtue, so why not go for the most thrilling option. If you have to live off junkfood, might as well choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:53 PM
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just looking through the 2nd article, it doesn't say there isn't a difference, it just says that the difference is not specifically a physical brain difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:32 PM
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I think lower SMV women have a low amount of men hitting on them and so on up the chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:15 PM
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this is anxiety coming from the fact that we are taught that traditional relationships are oppressive. find a virtuous man and it won't be a problem. you can customize who handles what.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:36 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:12 PM
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Another fun video about the perks of being a tradwife. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR3ULgkmmys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:34 PM
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you don't understand the blessing that it is to have someone handle all the bullshit. a more traditional family life can be so very fulfilling for both partners, and totally compatible with the modern idea that neither person is inferior. Submissiveness is not key. It's about complementary roles. you hear so much bad talk about it on here, all these horror stories, I almost think there's an agenda behind it. we heard plenty of good testimony about it before my wife and I made the jump, and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:55 PM
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to me, its a terrible reason to get a divorce. if any issue is surmountable via communication or couples therapy, its that one. if you can't tackle that, it's because you didn't want to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:08 PM
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just to disagree that it was the top reason, but i wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:39 AM
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i assume that fell under lack of equality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:21 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:35 PM
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I think this is relevant because it shows that duel-income is ONLY do to money concerns. Once a woman is comfortable, she prefers to enjoy her natural gender role https://fortune.com/2023/06/06/do-married-women-ultrawealthy-superrich-work-research-federal-reserve-data/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:33 PM
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Why People are Divorcing in the United States Lack of commitment 73% Argue too much 56% Infidelity 55% Married too young 46% Unrealistic expectations 45% Lack of equality in the relationship 44% Lack of preparation for marriage 41% Domestic Violence or Abuse 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:32 PM
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https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:37 PM
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or marriages where they are bored wait i never heard that one said out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:31 PM
1

i thought having empathy for single moms was another discarded talking point of a bygone political era
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:36 PM
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crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:26 PM
1

late 30s. i'm early 40s now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:04 PM
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I used to strive for it, and now i realize i was insecure for many years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:58 AM
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my thing is why are men demanded to explain this preference? do we do this with all preferences? the elephant in the room is that liberated women are promised full access to their sexual strategy. which means they want to be able to try out as many men as possible. this runs counter to men's sexual strategy, which for whatever natural reason, seems to be seeking low n-count. in the past, we had social norms to balance these 2 conflicting desires, but the modern solution is to just prioritize one…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:07 PM
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i think more men should acknowledge 'emotional bodycount' because its bonding they are worried about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:22 AM
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they say that so they can be the only guys who do it
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/23 10:35 PM
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not me by myself. 1st step is to build communities of like-minded people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:19 PM
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but we can reshape society so its not so geared to one gender's wants
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:13 PM
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I agree, but I also feel like the shame was implied. There was something there. If a guy found out, there would be fun made, but maybe not real bullying. I could have withstood it if I had confidence, but I didn't. I think this just highlights various issues in the culture that's broken anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:55 PM
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It's actually harder to lie about that you think
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:40 PM
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I'd like to change it. There are movements of people happening. If we come together we can change it all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:29 PM
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we're jealous and possessive creatures and we want our partners all for ourselves. It provides security and comfort That's the most honest answer anyone has given. And to me, that also rings true for n-count. I don't know why we people pretend its automatically invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:56 PM
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Cheating is breaking a mutual trust/understanding, so it’s wrong but that's just begging the question in my context here. We don't make rules for no reason. So what is the root reason that we make rules about cheating? What is the core thing about having sex with a person that makes it more serious than sharing a pie? And could this thing also contribute to feelings about body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:58 PM
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I don't think anyone is really missed. That's really the coldness of the system. Chads that disappear aren't missed anymore by their loved ones than x-cels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:19 PM
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i think that's an awesome plan. how do we start it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:16 PM
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I feel like I hit on a zinger in another sub, I want your opinions here: Q: If body count doesn't matter, then cheating doesn't matter, right? It's just one more person they slept with, right? A: Cheating is breaking trust and intimacy and dedication. Sleeping around while being single is isn't breaking it. Q: ok but body count apologists say that it doesn't affect anyone's ability to be intimate or dedicated A: I'm 99% sure you're trolling, but against my better judgment, I'll engage. Sleeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:27 PM
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for social, i was thinking more like learning how people talk to each other and getting more comfortable. ethics is definitely part of the virtue package though!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:07 PM
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I want to cure their problem, as I see it as society collapsing. I think they have so many good points. But there's also a toxic part of the online movement making it really hard. If you're listening, the answer is virtue maxing, which includes looks maxing and social maxing. The answer is not 'rebelling' by receding into nihilism, hedonism etc. This is only going to prove the point to your enemies that you are worthless and need to be replaced. It's not going to have the effect of having societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:08 PM
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women are begging us to take control of society and save them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:23 AM
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they do it without dating apps though. hot guys who they've heard are assholes who don't settle down. they still give them a ride just to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:22 AM
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women will set up a date and bang guys who primally attract them, without vetting, because it's a thrill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:11 AM
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And if guys "adapt" while girls still stay on the internet and social media what would that even do? i think it would do a lot. i believe men are supposed to be leaders. if we aren't in top form, we don't really have the moral highground to say women should improve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:07 AM
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wait did you just move the goal posts to another town
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:03 AM
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I know what you mean. It's been true for me ish. idk the dates I really failed, I was acting kind of effeminate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:13 PM
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doesn't that lend credence to the idea that women are trying to divide men into 2 groups? The teenage girls could have said like "ooh stacy thats an interesting preference you have. I prefer different men, but both are valid" not taking the RP side here but that's what your story said to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:04 PM
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seems she didn't marry a true scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:01 PM
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The only thing red pill gets really right are already ancient wisdom that men have been handing down to their sons forever. the rest of it is how to be the best sociopathic hedonist possible. but if you are falling into nihilism it's perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:01 PM
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tradwife is a political act at this point. they don't need to advertise because there will be plenty of guys in their political circle to choose from. why do we use tate and clooney as examples? celebs live on a different plane. we should be talking about virtuous men with decent jobs. those men deserve a sahm, but the whole submissive thing doesn't really fit into the needs of the modern family man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:24 PM
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in her eyes the casual with a stud could always lead to something more. when did moms stop teaching their daughters the truth on this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:27 PM
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I'm not a libertarian. I don't worship markets. But this looks more like a monopoly. There are exploitation markets that everyone agrees are wrong. And some we haven't figured out yet because we have to deal with the tantrums that occur when you disrupt someone's cash flow. With 'dry' sex work, I agree the market is there because men cannot stop falling for the SCAM that's being laid on them. But in the end it's still a scam. Make prostitution legal and it would be more fair. Men would have anot…
/r/ExRedPill23/05/23 05:21 PM
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so we have to deal with onlyfans until the economy turns around and the spectre of the glass ceiling is solved once and for all? the reason i don't condemn prostitution is because it's a much more fair deal. the man pays for real satisfaction rather than being strung along for as long as his sanity/wallet can handle. we make things illegal all the time that people want to pay for, because we want to improve society
/r/ExRedPill23/05/23 03:58 PM
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making it illegal would work too. but i'd be interested in knowing what more lucrative things we could put out there that women would gravitate to that instead.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/23 03:24 PM
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i don't and am not... but i honestly want an end to porn and titty streaming. i think it's wrong. the culture is VERY geared to women fully monetizing their sexuality while young. It's a terrible direction that needs pushback. Is this podcast the right way to do that? I don't know.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/23 01:49 PM
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is there something to be said for creating at least some culture of shame to try and steer female culture away from becoming neck tatted thot's who exploit men is one of the many prostitution-like industries? (with actual prostitution conveniently illegal?) i don't listen to the podcast, but the question just popped into my mind
/r/ExRedPill23/05/23 12:25 PM
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If you're looking for a sure fire way of becoming more attractive to women, getting hench is as close as you're gonna get had to google hench lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:46 PM
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well society is currently structured cater to their sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:28 PM
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why is prostitution illegal again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:24 PM
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Nobody knows what virtue is because our culture has been totally ruined by vanity, consumerism, hedonism, and greed. We need a strong leader to come in and wreck this evil society and force us all to be virtuous
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:25 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:55 PM
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i'm chad lite lite. pretty easy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:53 AM
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not exactly, sorry. but it does make me a gender traitor. because men are the one's it benefits most and they aren't about to let up the pressure for women to shave
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:36 PM
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During war time, you'd meet people at organized dances.. etc, and that's all gone. There's no reason we can't have that stuff again. It really shows the greed and lack of love on our community leaders' parts. They are just hidden business men that sell houses. HOA's have a limited budget that they barely get the common grass mowed with. This sad state is celebrated as an opportunity for individuals to do whatever they want with their time. They know damn well that people in this age have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:05 PM
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Should we just ban online dating apps so people on here can have some peace of mind? YES why did we even think it was a good idea to appify a sacred tradition of getting people together? thats like going to church via tweets
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:57 PM
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women shaving their body hair should not be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:44 PM
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Don't eat food after 5 pm i never even thought of that as a rule. good call!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:13 PM
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ultimately losing weight is way easier than climbing above your economic class yea?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:07 PM
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society was on the upswing. the social order was in tact. the family was strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:50 PM
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When people are sexually attracted to people there's no stopping them. this is a post sexual revolution idea. before that we had spent hundreds of years building up a culture of waiting for sex, delaying gratification, suppressing our base animal beginning. and it was working. the sexual revolution was a tool to destabilize society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:56 PM
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if she's single and looking, then you show yourself and who you are and she considers you. very different from selling a solar roof you didn't know you needed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:54 PM
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yea but they aren't offering anything i might want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:13 PM
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the pill head is still the bad boy comparatively. maybe the bad boy is the salient factor, and women are so desperate for it, they will choose any misbehaver down to a hobo if that's what it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:09 PM
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presidents make the country their cum dumpster
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:07 PM
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You see the thing is that both men and women have that roller coaster honeymoon face in the beginning where nobody seeing anything and we're all working extra hard for the person and we're fucking each other's brains out and everything is new and exciting to us. It's only when things slow down do we start to actually get glimpses of the other person Why is this the system when it works so terribly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:04 PM
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sleeping your way through you friends group is one thing... but i think women are on dating apps because men initially went to them because it seemed like a life hack. why do the work to get a GF when you can order it on mamazon? women hang out on the apps because it feels nice to get messages. but they would absolutely respond to IRL advances. and those guys would have the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:13 PM
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social events / friend circles they still exist! the emphasis on cold approach is a red herring / strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:34 PM
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if a man is a good husband and is loved by the family and kids, and the wife just gets a bug up her ass and wants to get divorced so she can play... will that still result in losing half the assets? honest question. google was a little vague to my specific question. seems to me that if your wife wants a frivolous divorce, she should get little to nothing of yours. same with sexes reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:01 PM
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hmm but it seems like you could become socially comfortable with other men. most of that carries over to women. except you wont kiss men, and you won't make crude jokes with women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:54 PM
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that's a meme that's scaring people. hashtag metoo is over. The viral videos of women mad in gyms are a rare or staged phenomenon that you only see because of the net. There is no rampant sexual harassment false accusation epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:25 PM
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https://www.wonderlandmagazine.com/2022/10/04/burberry-hero-eau-de-parfum/ The nose is part of it though. Look at all those strong angles. Piercing eyes. Full lips. I feel gay can i stop now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:44 PM
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married
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:37 PM
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are there hundreds? even granting you that, i've seen men chatting up women at the gym, its chill. but even so, the gym vibe is not necessarily the right place, because for many people the gym is a personal private thing you have to do in public for cost reasons. a place you go because of your life interests is the best place to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:46 PM
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why so many people bothered about the ethics here? its just one more female face the guys sent a message to and exchanged a few words. a drop in the bucket. no one is getting false hope. you act like a female reply is like life saving medical treatment here, or some special currency that should never be counterfeit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:09 PM
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the Internet has given power to this kind of fringe thinking and made it seem way more ubiquitous than it really is. so true. people don't believe me, but get the fuck off the internet. its a trash zone for bored people only. if you are home with free time, pick up literally any hobby other than net or games. you will be better off
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:04 PM
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Adam Driver, Liam Neeson because women are attracted to different physical characteristics. those 2 men have strong, striking, imposing features. but also clean appearance, good build and textbook items like jawline. add to that fame and well why are we confused again? but yea growing up i would be confused by what women say was attractive. for example i showed a girl a pic of tucker max. i thought he was ugly. she did not know who he was and he was not posed in a way that made it clear he had b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:59 PM
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my theory is that online dating is distorting the partner selection process. Fellas, if you wanna meet women, you need to do so in person. I feel like we constantly scream this at them and they keep slipping away like jello only to reform elseware and keep complaining. women are literally waiting to be hit on IRL. you won't do it though, because of paralyzing fear. just admit that, and we can help you. keep making excuses, and you will forever alone. be
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:52 PM
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Sorry, not a woman but: Fitting in has a lot to do here. If you are better dressed than most people there, they may just be confused. You may be putting out try-hard, rich boy, snob, or teacher vibes. Dress like the people you are trying to fit in with. You don't ever have to be shlubby though. Best girls at UNI may also be looking for short term fun, because they don't feel like they are ready for the real guy yet. I've came to the conclusion that women probably aren't attracted to people who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:20 PM
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inb4 everyone bullies you but you're not lying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:21 PM
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USA. The thing is, I know my parents would not judge in the least. It's all me! dont know how it happened
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 09:42 PM
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i hate to admit but i always had an insecurity about my parents thinking i 'settled' lookswise. i don't know why. it's not logically true. i have some deep-seated psychological problem. anyone else have this??
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 03:59 PM
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i reject the 3 date world. society must change. there are movements happening. you do what you have to do in dating right now. but don't make things worse. thats how im looking at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:30 PM
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it has to be mutual. two people who follow my same philosophy that are interested in marriage for family building. in this situation you would look like the kellogs and coke discussing a merger, but the ceo of kellogs just cant stop thinking about free coke samples. the ceo of coke would be thinking 'the free coke and cereal will be there if we merge, but why is this man so impatient for that? when we have so many other matters to discuss?'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:05 PM
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a lot of guys have made this point and i cant disagree. women (who have slept around or otherwise) should not expect certain men to wait with you and others to not. those who are in this situation need to accept this and make meaningful changes and gestures so that a man who wants to wait with you feels like you are genuine. this rule doesn't just apply to women, but I do believe in dimorphism and the yin and yang of male/female. women, being the gatekeepers of sex, have the lead responsibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:59 AM
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ugh so many guys are looking for that duel income partner. but i personally want a really good mother in the house.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/23 07:14 PM
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Because TRP have many underlying ulterior motives other than helping people. -They are nihilists enjoying themselves while the world burns and have no interest in making efforts to save it. And misery loves company. -They want you single so there's more girls out there for them to use up. So they give advice that will make you offensive to women and break up your marriages. -They want to sell you books, supplements, workout programs, self help fads etc. So they say you can't possibly be practici…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 07:08 PM
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that is logical. but part of my argument is that one the sex starts, it becomes very difficult to see the other problems
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:29 PM
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someone you want to have kids with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 11:40 AM
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I think it's a good idea to let the man lead with waiting at this point in history. It would say a lot about him. Mind games are terrible. My aim with this post is not to give anyone a strategy they can take into the current dating market and just win win win. But rather to propose a forward-thinking philosophy to a group of people who care enough to have such a forum. We are all trying to move forward here; to figure out how to fix the mire that sex relations is becoming. I just saw today that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:52 PM
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How many LTRs deep are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:33 PM
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I mean, my wife and I totally banged on our first date and every time we saw each other for the first... year or so? Still going strong. Me too, but I also had a bunch of LTRs before that. The sex was always the easy part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:33 PM
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its hard yea, but its harder to do all the work yourself and be resentful. you have a list of things that need done, you give him the half that he can handle. if the cleaning the house is more of your personal thing, then admit that and keep it on your list.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:08 PM
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never in my experience either. but then i've only dated from a certain pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:45 PM
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you can opt out of dating idiots and vet men heavily before marriage and be realistic with what relationships require this is what i'm advocating for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:44 PM
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its not fringe at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:27 PM
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sure, but a lot of the things listed are just shitty attitudes. I don't know about you but I'd rather find out about those without fluid exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:26 PM
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Sex should happen when two people feel attracted to each other and comfortable...not on arbitrary timelines you have just recited the literal orthodox of modern dating. thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:25 PM
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none, i shouldn't have said that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:24 PM
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Considered couple's therapy? If the woman is smart enough to take care of all these things in that meme, then she's smart enough to delegate half of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:08 PM
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true. or she could have done some soul searching and wants to wait with whoever she dates from now on. if she wants to use you as a 'friend' that won't work on you because you will have made your intentions clear that you are looking for someone to breed with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:26 PM
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presumably you would actually be talking to this other person during the dating, and get to know the answers to a lot of this stuff. you could find out enough info that you wouldn't have to sit through one dehumanizing act
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:23 PM
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ok you can waste years playing the extra long and painful relationships because of early sex game. or you can get a divorce which really fucks up your kids. or you can say you are just playing around and wanna get some notches on your belt
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:17 PM
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no but presumably you are part of an underserved group. any group that society has forgotten should take control of their destiny rather than helping things to fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:51 PM
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no, but the family building makes you realize self-pleasure is not the end goal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:49 PM
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but its not because they didn't take it for a robust test drive. its because of deeper issues. and if the person hates sex, its because of trauma usually. which will be found during the 3 months of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:47 PM
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unless your dick doesn't fit it will probly be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:42 PM
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let the people who ruined society win to teach them a lesson and magically they will pick you to rebuild
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:42 PM
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that's an old pro-divorce boogie man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:41 PM
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But if you really connect and are compatible everywhere else you probably will be able to discuss/compromise on sex better as well. I totally agree on this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:04 PM
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I agree. It has to be part of a broad spectrum revolutionary movement, which I believe is going on. But you don't have to wait for permission from society to change your mind now and make small efforts where you can. That's being part of a revolutionary culture. We don't have to happily eat the slop they feed us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:01 PM
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that relationships should be about building/continuing a family legacy, not finding a financial partner you can bang
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:53 PM
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Will Smith and Johnny Depp are fine though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:26 PM
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The state of children is a devastating blow to any argument that the modern way is going to work. Good people are having less children. Children are becoming system-oriented consumers because people are not willing or able to to spend the required time with their kids. The effects of divorce are well-covered up by our benevolent thought leaders. It wreaks havoc on kids' brains, but we pretend this doesn't happen or wave it away. There's no sustainable part of the modern form of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:24 PM
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That's valid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:16 PM
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based on your logic. what makes a man attractive to a woman sexually? Good looks, strength, sexual prowess, money, charisma, status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:50 PM
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your view of relationships is about sexual satisfaction. sex is good, but there are higher things to attain in this life. and with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:48 PM
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dudes are sluts that rock, you could bang them and double the fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:05 PM
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wrong. this is a RP myth . it may be true that some guys have a 3-meals girl, but not for an overarching reason that all girls want that and will give it to a guy they are truly into. One of the mechanisms RP uses to bring this is out in a woman is dread; the fear this guy would leave them at any moment for another woman. That's just plain old abuse and stockholm syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:03 PM
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a woman who can name virtues is boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:00 PM
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I'm telling women to be better here too. Everyone needs to be better. The 3 month rule is solid advice for anyone who is smart and wants to elevate themselves above the base hedonistic standard our society pushes. If she has not heard of any of this, or can't name a virtue, you are getting with a wild card
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:41 PM
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the spark isn't there Yea that's where I was too. It's not true though. In early relationship sex addict™, you get what feels like a spark, and yes, in this phase, some women are way less wild and it feels like a bummer; like something is wrong with them sexually. But they all eventually level out. This is a Red Pill that trumps manosphere red pills. They just level out. A lot of guys have a tantrum about it, and then are fed lies about it which makes us crazy. Men would have sex like it was 3 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:34 PM
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I used to feel that way, but I came to realize I was wrong. There's so much more to a relationship than p in v. I do believe good people should be having kids, and that really brings things into focus. But if sex is some kind of hobby or work for you, and you want a partner who is also like that, its another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:23 PM
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i don't really understand what this means. could someone elaborate or clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:13 PM
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A lot of red pill theory is based on dating chicks like Scarjo in Don Jon, CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:10 PM
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a regular guy is worthless without commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:40 PM
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they don't want mid guys to think they have a shot with them even though they are mid themselves. they only want to schedule dates with best value guys to maximize their time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:20 PM
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i mean the app would be programmed to make everyone good looking. if it failed, it was more of a programming bug than revealing anything about the person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:39 AM
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honestly though just be misogynistic if you want. there are girls out here that would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5iO0ZT882c The girls turn into some pretty good looking guys. And then yea you can see some of the girls make a negative comment about it. But the thing is, girls are always saying dudes on screens are bad looking, but those girls will date those same guys in real life. Girls have a set of standards on paper about guys, but they make different decisions on the ground. I think it's because a lot of a guy's attractiveness is confidence, humor, social proof, economi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:43 PM
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I've never understood this argument. Seems like the absolute obvious move is to live somewhere cheaper. There are plenty of places. Or just admit you want this life. But don't pretend like somehow you are forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:05 PM
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striving for a bougie lifestyle is a bad thing. it's locking everyone further into this duel-income nightmare. people need to rediscover living simply and focusing on the things that feed the spirit. for all of time, most humans have lived simply and made families, and that is enough. now we think hey if we put 2 incomes together and don't have kids, we can live like rich people. it's the wrong way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:13 PM
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why use these apps again??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:36 PM
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Manosphere Red Pillers are often not philosophically robust. People should not follow them. They are way too 'of this world.' They don't want to change things for the better. They want to squeeze the most personal pleasure out of what they see as a dying society. They are hedonistic nihilists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:10 PM
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Example, he doesn't care if she's pissed off and giving the silent treatment as long as she's still I honestly wish I could get to that place. Because it would make the random bouts of abuse not hurt. I agree a lot of guys are like that. I think its a bit natural for high-T guys to be like that. A lot of redpill advice tells us to become this way, but most guys fail at it. I agree with you that the modern 'healthy' way is to get good communication going and make sure everyone's needs are getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:04 PM
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I have had bittersweet results from the redpill side of advice on this issue. its true that presenting your side of the case just seems to make things worse, and taking your lumps just right usually results in the wife getting over it and pretending like it never happened. but i kind of hate that ending? it feels like a severe lack of justice has occurred in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:56 PM
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what would better advice be?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:54 PM
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what do you guys think of this advice? its so frustrating to me. https://www.mensxp.com/dating/dating-tips/6273-how-to-deal-with-an-angry-wife.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:32 PM
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this would be a powerful social experiment. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScYRkygESo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:07 PM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:59 AM
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several women in these replies are saying that, even in the USA, lots of women are all about casual and even fighting off men who wanna get serious. I have a hard time believing it. But I could believe it if we are talking about class differences. I'd suspect upper class women have more freedom to do this. I think us on the lower class are scared not to pair off because we need to get into that duel income setup so our economic precarity goes down. It could also be women who are young and don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:33 PM
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i agree, but i don't think the spirit of the post is ice cold approaching for everyone. i think we can all agree right here and now that the online complainers are just not doing enough IRL stuff at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:45 AM
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from my experience with a bunch of 1st dates myself via OLD, it feels like women will build a version of you in their head often idealized, mainly based off of your texting convos and initial profile pictures. Once you actually meet face to face she usually seems to confirm or deny if you are who she thought you were in about 15 minutes. If shes interested shell be very receptive to most things. If she isnt feeling you though women tend to act more neutral while still pleasent because she is sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:26 PM
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the post wasn't about anything but height. maybe we should only post these threads with proof we already fully looxmaxed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:25 PM
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Changed my mind on my own. Because TRP have many underlying ulterior motives other than helping people. -They are nihilists enjoying themselves while the world burns and have no interest in making efforts to save it. And misery loves company. -They want you single so there's more girls out there for them to use up. So they give advice that will make you offensive to women and break up your marriages. -They want to sell you books, supplements, workout programs, self help fads etc. So they say you…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 02:21 PM
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the existence of incels invalidates modern gender norms. it's blatant proof that we live under a broken system. we wave them away and tell them to bootstrap themselves. but when they do, its going to be with combat boots
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:49 PM
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having the media and academia on your side is not nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:42 PM
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women want full tradition but men are currently is a terrible state all around. they are waiting for us to return
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:50 PM
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less trips on the holidays wins it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:48 PM
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we are addicted to gaming 1st and foremost. everything else is a rationalization of that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:36 PM
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Society has tried to disempower men institutionally, and their last goal is spiritually, emotionally, mentally. They would have men as NPC workhorse sperm donors. Why they are doing this I'm not sure. But what they are counting on is men backing down and not taking control and being leaders. Men have all the rights they need in fatherhood as long as they choose the right woman, cultivate a good relationship, and be a strong leader of their house. We have to own this mess of a society that we bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:04 PM
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that is a really good point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:42 PM
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this is what happens when you let the free market shape your culture. we should enshrine our idea of healthy nuclear families and then ensure that outcome by placing directives and incentives throughout society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:37 PM
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if people cared about the future of western humans ie birthrate, they'd wanna be getting more people together for family-building. something like a third of men not getting paired off would be an obvious problem. but most people are infected with a suicidal nihilism that extends to their culture and civilization. so they don't care. their reaction is 'hey i'm doing fine'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:13 PM
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The housework gap is the most useless and annoying talking point ever. "Nobody" disagrees that if 2 people work 40 hours a week each, they should also divide up the house work. The fact that women report this problem so much must mean that the men doing it absolutely do not care about what the news or internet or studies say. So the only solution is finding these men, and directly confronting them, shaming, punishing until they change. The only people that are going to have that kind of access t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:59 PM
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strip risk would be good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:02 PM
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i like this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:01 PM
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this is the internet, we are here to anally quantify everything because we are bored. if we wanted to actually get girlfriends we would do as you say. (i'm already married but yea)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:22 PM
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women don't have to care about sexual strategy because after the sexual revolution, society was changed so that women wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. it's like they got a permanent handicap in the game. For example, women used to fear being older and still single because it meant men were less likely to pick them. Is this because back then women were all just sexual slaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:20 PM
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Maybe we should quantify what each ding to SMV is worth. -Overweight, as in past the point where a little fat looks ok on average -10 pts? Gotta start somewhere. -Guy with kids -100 points. Might be endearing to some women, but he might be bringing traumatized to the table. And can we admit that everyone would prefer a clean slate? -Woman with kids - this should be like -1000 points. Because it might mean her new guy just doesn't get to breed! idk lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:12 PM
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I will never advocate for low value guys getting women they don't deserve. Guys, get out there and looks max and career max so we can stop losing debates on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:04 PM
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i saw a couple with kids the other night. the woman was beautiful and the man's face was very blah. but he was hairy, tall, and had a good frame that one could build muscle on. women always say certain men are ugly and make a face like they would never date such a man. but these men give women the tingles if given the chance. they exude manly vibes up close. then it's like they don't even see the same man anymore. he now looks like brad pitt to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:23 PM
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that's tough. i may have to say average. I'm not sure if I've ever dated someone who is super well adjusted. Not sure if that says something about me, or the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:23 PM
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both of those
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:06 PM
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Can't think of any examples but across my main history of relationships, the response is usually "damn if you wanted to do something, just do it" or "ok you want me to do something different, but you're just mad cus your wrong" i've found i get great success with keeping the emotions to myself and either just doing what i want to do, simply and firmly stating what i want the other person to change and then leaving it at that. my reactions from them seem to be congruent with me being the defacto …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:06 PM
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yes its kind of interesting. i cant explain it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:31 PM
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but it could just be the AI is saying it's alive. because it was programmed to. not looking forward to this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:24 PM
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some guys really like the overdone makeup thing and don't mind when that their ladies have 2 entirely different faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:02 PM
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i mean the poor guy should be allowed to take viagra and walk around that way so the girls don't get scared away when they see no boner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 01:05 PM
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they approach, but when they notice his dick is soft, they float away again
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:17 PM
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validation validation is huge though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:16 PM
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he keeps looking for a forever wife but they keep dumping him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:10 PM
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imagine men getting suckered into helping women build a vault in which to hide from their duty of breeding until the human race finally dies out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:05 PM
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it really is a lame own
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:38 PM
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because they saw the world becoming ruthlessly capitalist and wished they would have maximized their income.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:12 PM
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this is certainly true in today's environment. but why is this basic challenge to men's fulfillment hidden from most men until later in life when it's more daunting to work on it? I'm sure many boys would want to know this so they can get used to being fit and social instead of developing incredible amounts of points on videogames.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:27 PM
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https://youtu.be/LJ4W1g-6JiY
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:22 PM
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maybe the only risk they care about is a threat to their ability to sit home and do screen bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:05 PM
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but the movie industry is about to crash. markets attempt to provide what they think people want, but contrary to libertarian belief, it is flawed. it works in some cases like pencils, but doesn't scale to more complex situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:08 PM
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thats not really inline with the female spirit. also doesn't test for bravery
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:05 PM
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this is the internet. a lot of TRP leads to grifters selling product too. they have no incentive to actually help people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:03 PM
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I get that, but if we controlled our own culture, rather than the market, I believe things would be different. You didn't have a mass sexless problem before mass culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:48 PM
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so why'd i get downvoted lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:41 PM
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hard to learn it without cold hard experience talking IRL and most importantly getting rejected. its that fear that keeps guys hiding in OLD only to find the place a sausage party, so of course very few are going to get action there. so i recommend learning courage. unfortunately our dads should teach us that, and many instead stuck us in front of a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:40 PM
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the guys i know that have trouble dating all have some level of autism features. i hate to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:35 PM
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does a dick pick count as a free sample? hopefully we don't need to give out samples in those little ketchup cups
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:34 PM
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in terms of feeling for the fish on your line and escalating when the responses are right. if he's giving one terse one word bites then he's not into it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:31 PM
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I never see men approaching in real life. Not unless its a nightspot. even then mostly people keep to their own groups. women are out there waiting to be talked to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:20 PM
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why does this feel like fishing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:17 PM
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This is all true, but if you practice any of them it will still result in eventually getting someone. And I say the most frustrating one is the OLD. At least with the others there's some adventure. Getting rejected IRL is kind of a rush. Getting rejected by algorithm is crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:13 PM
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that's how it should work. the culture as presented to us makes it seem like casual sex is a thing you should be able to get and want. so everyone is scrambling to do it. I think the truth is that our sexuality has been hijacked by capitalism. you can make way more money off people acting primally than old tightwad one partner types.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:07 PM
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i loved the concept of the post and i just hope people don't try to escape into some detail that was left vague. i wanna hear that step by step from them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:03 PM
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should specify in OP then. lots of ppl do set the bar low just to get some and it works and is a little more fulfilling then eating from a dumpster
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:56 PM
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online dating is rigged for women. real life approaching is rigged for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:21 PM
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After a lot of debate, I'm hoping a significant amount of people can resolve together to make the changes to society to set it back on the right path
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:16 PM
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so either one, you will hate, but one is going to require tons of effort for you to be a good dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:41 PM
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what if one is a huge bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:12 PM
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