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So as long as a guy waits until after sex to deem a woman low value, he's in the clear of all accountability? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 11:08 AM
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Every woman with a shitty ex must be a shit woman then I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 02:29 AM
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It does, you are just choosing not to engage and repeating your original point, while also trying discredit my thoughts by lumping me in with the biased group. You said everyone is equally intolerant of negative emotions in a relationship. I said "no, here is a situation that is incredibly common with men, and incredibly uncommon with women." Women doing the thing more often that I said they do more often is relevant. You just don't have a good rebuttal so you went straight to the subtle ad-homi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 02:01 AM
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Yeah sure, men totally get the ick from seeing women cry. "ugh what a crybaby." said no man about any woman he's ever been involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:40 PM
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Yes toxic people are also interested in toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:07 PM
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All women shouldn't. There are plenty of women who aren't shitty and manipulative who will get nothing out of it. (except maybe protection from her jealous friends in 15 years) Women who want to become aware of toxic behavior from men and women should. Wtf do you think is gonna happen if you become aware of toxic relationship behavior and how to beat it? You'll be a better partner oh nooo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:40 PM
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I don’t care about random women and I have never gone out of my way to save random women. You can, too. No one will arrest you. I know, because subverting expectations isn't a crime. If it was, you would be arrested for this post. Know why? Because men are expected to care about women's' plight. If we didn't, women's rights would've been dead before they even got to suffrage. You made a claim that there is no expectation. I'm claiming there is. Good for you for not following the expectation. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:19 AM
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OPs point is men have a big ass room with a ceiling on how much weakness they'll tolerate based on the circumstances, most women have a tiny cup that shrinks based on what the last guy (other than her partner) that tried to fuck her looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:00 AM
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Every time a man is waiting for women to "feel bad" for the plight of men, and come running after them to SAVE them with blowjobs and headrubs, they are putting pussy on the pedestal, and expecting women to be selfless angels that do things MEN aren't expected to do. This is exactly what men are expected to do though. Do you think a guy publicly saying "I don't give a fuck about women's pain. I will never feel bad for a women" will be judged positively by the general public...? No, the reaction …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:48 AM
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My point is they are only happily doing it because women reward it. Non-dastardly men just get played for being a white knight if they to actually do anything. Doing dastardly things wouldn't be a happy affair if you weren't rewarded for it, and other men don't generally award abusive men. Hard to understand considering how much women stick up for abusive women, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:14 AM
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I think dudes see guys like that get the most women and get humiliated the least. I also think it's rarely other men bolstering those dudes egos. Women are either victims, or unrelated though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:25 AM
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Yo I'm gonna blow your mind: The male friends who comfort women after they've built up an emotional support army behind their soon-to-be-exes back by complaining to them instead of the husband because "he never listens anyway"? Those are the back burners 🤫
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:06 AM
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Every guy here has had a girlfriend who starts a fight over something minor to take out frustration on something completely unrelated to him. If he takes responsibility for her misplaced emotion he gets labelled as a doormat. If he ignores it then he's ignoring an issue and labelled as selfish. If your partner is in a catch 22 for trying to take you at your word you're a shit communicator. You're going to pretend like this is some 1/1,000,000 thing but this is literally the reason why guys refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:00 AM
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I assume you make your expectation that he never appears to hit a slump just as clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:59 AM
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“that’s just how men are (supposed to be).” a line that is of course, never used to justify a woman acting objectively foul because she's "unhappy" never!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:56 AM
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"Lot's of lottery winners end up in poverty, that means they never got the money"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:52 AM
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We objectify certain features. Some people abstract that into novelty points. Guys fall in love when women stick around and are more pleasant to be with than without. Did you just get blown off because you had a quality a dude doesn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:46 AM
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no power to them wtf. go be an asshole by yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:36 AM
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Is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:21 PM
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Actually, Cialis makes all of that possible. Unless your partner taking a pill 3x a week ruins the freedom spontaneity and dirtiness for you...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:57 AM
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It would be even more pronounced. Ask the woman who "Looks like she's 25 not 35" to take off her makeup and stand in a line up with makeup-less actual 25 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:50 AM
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so excited to use the fertility uno reverse card that she didn't realize she was proving your point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:47 AM
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Nah bro all that stuff is just fluff, you really just wanna boss around Cinderella. You should quit trying to control your relationship by thinking logically, and let some older woman who will respect you less do it for you, and resent you for it. If you're a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:40 AM
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Also implying all the men who would be jealous of someone like that are dudes in committed relationships with loving partners who are just sad they didn't get some bonus pussy first. Maybe in a few generations we'll get to the point where women can acknowledge the existence of, and maybe even feel empathy for men they don't want anything out of. For now, men just have to keep trying to lead by example and accept shaming when they question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:18 AM
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Happy to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:27 AM
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That poor soul, having to endure free sex with lots of different women. He'll probably never find a girl who likes him in those conditions. Let's hope one day he can become an incel, the true fast track to finding a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:22 AM
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How convenient that women's idea of love requires men to spend time and money to show objective investment, but men's idea of love just requires her to show up and not act repulsed. Romance is in the air. OP's point about women wanting to take but not give has been completely nullified. Since men don't require gift giving/acts of kindness like women, I suppose women don't require men to hang out, be present, or hold hands etc, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:05 AM
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unhappy = anything is justified? If monkey branching is just "breaking up a relationship" then ditching your pregnant wife is just "choosing to go no contact with your ex." Let's just call sexual assault "misreading signals" too. Sure is cool using minimizing language and "I was unhappy" to justify acting shitty. No remorse needed!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:52 AM
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Men who are happy with their partners usually don't skip town when she's pregnant lol Men who are happy with their wives don't usually beat them up lol Men who aren't being tempted by women in revealing clothes don't usually sexually assault them lol Can men wave off foul behavior because they're unhappy too, or just women when interacting with their intimate partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:53 PM
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Assume it was just 1 guy over a sustained period then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:03 AM
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I can tell. I'm sure every woman on PPD however, has only been in situation number 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:02 AM
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No, it describes pursuing other potential relationships when you're already committed, then cashing in on that investment when you've successfully devalued your current one. If you were building intimacy with someone behind your partners back, breakup and end up fucking that person, you monkey branched whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:53 AM
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Damn you successfully covered every single scenario here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:41 AM
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and abusive women are very aware of this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:38 AM
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Honestly, I think it comes down to this: Psychological warfare exists. Manipulation exists. The vast majority of men are unfamiliar with the rules (or lack thereof). TRP lays it all bare and wrenches the power away from women. Now it's an even playing field. Read TRP and your bullshit detector's effectiveness increases. A lot. The law makes it much harder for a man to use his physical advantage to control women. We accepted it. TRP makes it much harder for women to use their communicative abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:57 AM
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You should've posted the updated model. Most of the comments here are complaining about stuff he addressed later. Except of course the usual "Everything TRP is wrong and dumb, except for the correct stuff which is obvious and dumb. Red Pill dumb!!!" comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:42 AM
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Solid list. I'd also add in access to getting sucked off by a porn-star level 18-25 year old for less than the cost of 3 dates. Maybe even less than a hundo if she's got a few wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:59 AM
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Moms cockblock their sons too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:48 PM
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They never said to date ugly people: I never said they did. I said: "OP said to date people who you don't think are hot because hot people are too stressful." OP said: I value my sleep. I'm not about to be up all night stressed cause i decided to date the hot guy. i like my peace of mind Direct quote from OP https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18lv7n6/this_might_be_an_unpopular_opinion_but_dating_the/ke07t5d/ and you were a big meanie and called me emotional, so now I don't wanna …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:20 PM
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Confident women are constantly being shit on in red pill media. I barely interact with RP stuff but still the algo pushes countless clips ripped straight from RP podcasts and tiktoks onto my feed. So many are framed as "let's talk to this woman on the street and ask her [blank]". It's then selectively edited to make her seem dumb, hypocritical, shallow, vain or stupid in some way. This ain't done because she has "taken 67 dicks" as you do charmingly put it, it's done because she's young, pretty,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:17 PM
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OP said to date people who you don't think are hot because hot people are too stressful. That's literally what is in the post I replied to. OP did not say to date "attractive average people" whatever that means. OP also didn't say "don't try to date the hottest person you've ever laid eyes on." You should absolutely think your partner is more attractive than 4/5 of the people you see. If you don't think your partner is hot you're choosing to feel like a loser and drag them down with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:04 PM
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I'm implying that I agree with OP. My post was sarcasm but I used quotes instead of \s the damage is done
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:00 PM
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Of course it doesn't exist, but that doesn't stop RP dudes from unflatteringly comparing modern women to it. I never claimed it exists? I referred to it as an archetype. Then there was no point in bringing it up. Everyone knows it doesn't exist. Nobody expects it. Men or women. Feel free to replace 'dating' with 'fucking' in that paragraph. The rest still stands. No. Getting fucked by a bunch of different dudes does not make you less likely to put up with bullshit. It just means chances are you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:50 PM
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"He didn't reject me because of how I acted, he's just trying to control me by pretending to have expectations"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:30 PM
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The tradwife you refer to is known as a unicorn in TRP terms actually, because "they don't exist." So the first paragraph is bs. A woman can learn to "be confident, know herself and know her worth" without getting fucked by 67 unique dicks. There are also no qualms about "dating" experience. You meant fucking experience but didn't say it because you know how out of place it would have been with the actually desirable qualities. If TRP men's "obsession" with rules and fairness is a cypher for con…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:23 PM
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No, it's not. "You have the biggest dick in the world that makes me cum just looking at it." is a compliment. "You aren't particularly attractive" is an insult. There is plenty of room between "You aren't particularly attractive" and "You are the most beautiful woman in the world and make me cum by just looking at you." Who the hell are these women that start going crazy when their boyfriend calls them beautiful? Are you doing pickup in front of a woman's shelter or something? Obviously you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:50 PM
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That risk is equally present whether you think your partner finds you exceptionally attractive or not though. Does getting dumped when you feel ugly hurt less than getting dumped when you feel hot? I don't get it. You aren't explaining how assuming you're mid decreases your chances of getting hurt, or how overestimating your partner's attraction to you leaves you vulnerable. You're just saying it does because "it might go wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:31 PM
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Whether you overestimate your attractiveness to your partner or not. What do you risk assuming your partner thinks you're sexier than everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:21 PM
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Assuming your partner thinks you're hot isn't doing yourself any harm either though. In fact, I'd even say assuming your partner thinks you're hot is absolutely doing yourself (and the relationship) a favor. Unless you think you can get away with worse behavior because you're way better than whatever else he can get. Then you're setting yourself up for a rude awakening...but that's not what you think, right? So why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:31 AM
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and yet here we are, undrafted and posting on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:20 AM
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Your partner openly saying he doesn't find you particularly attractive gives you peace of mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:40 AM
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All right, well there is a lot of research replicating the finding that female mate choice under those timescales is almost entirely controlled by variance and physical attractiveness, to the exclusion of most everything else. So at minimum TRP's emphasis on behavior as a short-cut to female attraction is irrelevant. And if hypergamy is in effect, then that limits a man's choice of partners to those at his level or below. Which effectively means most men cannot gain much from TRP. So you think i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:49 AM
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Even if we take this as true, TRP's pronouncement here will be ineffective in securing the highest quality female mate for that purpose. At minimum, the alpha behavioral traits TRP outlines here are essentially irrelevant to what determines a man's outcomes with regard to short-term sex, even if we remove the goal of securing a high-quality female mate. I disagree. I was very satisfied with the short term results and was not left wanting for more. Here, I will disagree. The traits that attract w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:16 AM
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TRP does not discourage men from cultivating beta traits in a long term relationship. It encourages cultivating alpha traits if short term sex is your goal. I actually recall a post in the sidebar literally saying focusing on alpha and neglecting beta will cause poor long term results. The reason it's written that way (I'm sure) is because meathead gigachad who can bench press 7 plates probably isn't going on reddit, finding the redpill, and using it to try to figure out how to convince women he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:03 AM
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*Come here and show me who's Mommy*
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:24 PM
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Which one? It looks like there's been a couple addressed to different groups. I'll look it over and give you my thoughts if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:08 AM
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Whether you care or not doesn't matter. I'm explaining why men care because you said you didn't get it. But since you don't care, I'll stop wasting my time. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:02 AM
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Ah wait, I think I see the result you're trying to get. I've personally never seen a guy follow the pattern you're describing, unless they are a psychopath, like I said. The dudes who want submission, really want submission. The ones who want cooperation, really want cooperation. The overwhelming majority of men fit into these 2 groups. I have seen WOMEN complaining about "all" men wanting submissive women, and men coming in and saying "actually, most guys just want cooperation without nagging."…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:52 AM
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Out of the 3 men who have attempted to answer, 1 is a literal diagnosed psychopath, and the other 2 haven't stated their personal position. Be careful about confirmation bias. I am a man who actually wants cooperation without nagging, and not submission. I'm aware of the terms. I want a woman who will do her part and take responsibility for it. What exactly are you trying to ask? Edit: Is the question "Why does cooperation require me not to nag?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:37 AM
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Right, but the consequences are far different. Women have to fear men acting bad and getting harsh consequences. Men have to fear women acting bad and getting cash, prizes, and becoming a hero. The risks/rewards for bad behavior are lopsided. That's why men are mad. Think about something like public healthcare. It's easy for rich people to say "Poor people can't be mad about a lack of public healthcare. If I get sick I have to pay out of pocket too. You can't be mad when I also have to pay." Doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:29 AM
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So you want men who claim to want cooperation, realize they actually want submission, but continue to use the wrong word anyway to answer? Basically dudes who are wrong, and aware of it, to honestly explain why they continue choosing to be wrong? You're gonna be waiting for a while. Most honest people correct themselves when they realize they are wrong. Maybe a self-aware narcissist will come through. That's the only type of person capable of creating the scenario you're describing. To answer th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:18 AM
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physically and mentally abused Jail time, cheating, reactive abuse, all totally acceptable getting pregnant and being a single mother, becoming financially reliant on their male partners which leads to more abuse Divorce, Child support, wage garnishment, jail time for the abuse just say "he raped me", or if she's feeling merciful and only wants to destroy your next 40 years or so, "he hit me" "hahaha, shouldn't have made her mad" "just walk away man, let her be" The best justice a man gets in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:10 AM
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Because lots of women will place the blame solely on the man when a decision both of them thought of together doesn't make her happy, whether it's actually the man's fault or not. In fact, as a guy you have to be ready for this result in pretty much every decision you make. If it works out, great, you guys a a cool power team and she's a woman who equally contributes. If it doesn't, why did you act like a little bitch and let an emotional woman influence your logical plan? You should have put yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:03 AM
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fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:43 AM
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What do they say? "If she were mentally stable I'd lose all sexual interest!!" or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:40 AM
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attention, cherishment, commitment, effort I wrote you that big ass post and you only responded to 2 sentences. I can confidently say I understand why men got tired of giving you 3/4 of these. "I needed to be more toxic" is not the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:01 PM
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What woman have you seen get the shit kicked out of her by her partner and smile about it?????? She was standing next to the guy who was "excited" to get cheated on, random STDs, false DV calls, and embarrassed at work because his ex smashed in his car window.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:16 PM
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Men tend to stick their dick into whatever they can. Guess who's open for business more often than "not crazy"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:08 PM
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I don't know why this is such a hot debate. Imagine guys trying to tell women "You only think Jason Mamoa is hot because he's divorced. If he didn't have a failed marriage you'de think he's mid"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:58 PM
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Some men like women who are or seem dangerous. and some women like men who beat the shit out of them when they talk back. Would you use that as proof that "women like getting beaten?" If that woman was less crazy, and looked just as fuckable, the same guys would be there. If she were the same level of crazy, and looked unfuckable...tumbleweeds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:54 PM
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Ok, so do men choose better partners than women do or are men justified in doing so because they like having sex with hot girls (don't girls also want sex with hot guys??) And they're justified. There is no "better." Men choose partners based on a different criteria than women. I never passed judgement on whether having sex with hot people is bad or good. Also, women shouldn't want sex with hot guys, but for men it's normal, so women shouldn't participate in hookup culture??? You don't make any …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:50 PM
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No not danger. I dont think men are attracted to danger and if you read it that way, thats not what I am trying to convey. Pick a word then. Just saying "you read it wrong" without telling me the right way to read it is pointless. But as much as men like to complain about drama queen women...that is the kind of woman they need to keep their attention. Luckily, more stable men exist but in my 20s they werent super frequent. It takes men in their 30s after having multiple bad experiences with hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:36 PM
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What was the drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:13 AM
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Its not that he doesnt like her at all, but he doesnt have that same drive and "passion" for her that he had for previous girls. Men do not value a sense of danger in their partner like women do. You're projecting the need for a "bad boy" that women have on to men. Men do not put up with hot crazy women because of their "emotional passion." They stay in spite of it because they like having sex with hot women. "He's a harmless nice boy" is dismissive when said about men. "She's a harmless nice gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:37 AM
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It's weird right? Guys were able to learn punching a wife who is psychologically terrorizing you is wrong, but anything a woman does to a man "in the name of love" short of deforming or killing just gets kinda charged to the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:13 AM
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share similar experiences and through the similarities begin to build a picture of what's troubling you and how would you describe "validation" exactly? Not this, right? What is emotional validation then? I think a big issue is you are underestimating the importance of emotional validation. Perhaps you think I'm using the manipulative TRP "give them validation for sex" version of it, and think I'm trying to devalue it (even though I'm literally arguing men need more). If you were informed on tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:41 AM
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oh my bad lol. it's early and I'm just firing probably a sign i need to close reddit bust out the journal actually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:29 AM
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I'm interested in debating. Since you'de like to dredge up my history, if you look further than the first page you'll see I've admitted being wrong plenty of times. Prob more than the person I'm arguing with. I agree with your original point btw op. Just saying emotional validation and emotional processing aren't the same thing, and many women (and men, apparently) assume they are. Men barely get any validation and women get lots, which makes the job of processing much easier and less vomity, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:22 AM
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You had to add the word 'automatically' to make your shit not embarrassingly wrong. No, not automatically, but if I talked to you about boxing for an hour you'd know more about boxing than you did at the start of the hour unless your brain is as broken as your posting suggests. No I didn't. Watch: Just talking about your emotions doesn't necessarily mean you will be better at understanding, recognizing, or expressing them appropriately. I'm still right. It's lowering the amount of BS to deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:19 AM
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I swear to god if I have to offer another 500 dollars bounty just for one of you people to read what I wrote and not let your brain insert insane shit that isn't there into it. Ok, plenty of women complain about their emotions all the time and still poorly "understand their feelings and improve their ability to recognise them." Is that literal enough to not make you angry? My point still stands. Oh so talking about things DOESN'T increase their understanding about things? Ok. Yeah. That sounds n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:01 AM
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It doesn't. It's just a form of healthy release men don't always have. Plenty of women complain about their emotions all the time and still act immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:42 PM
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All attractive men have options. All men delay commitment until they find the right woman. Either you are saying you only consider men who are trying to commit to other women suitable, which means you are a terrible person or you are saying you are only interested in men who are already in a commited relationship with you, which makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:31 AM
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Which still leaves all of the men delaying marriage/commitment, which is the vast majority of attractive single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:52 AM
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and getting a dna test isn't a big deal either as long as the woman hasn't been letting randos nut inside her 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:09 AM
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That will be relavent when women stop getting offended at the thought, and also when it's not just dismissable as coercion when d time rolls around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:07 AM
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The amount isn't, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:00 AM
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Women should also make their child support and alimony demands clear before marriage too then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:42 AM
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I wouldn’t call it deceit because I don’t think people intentionally ignore their moral compass , they just weren’t raised with a strong one. and by acknowledging that, and not parroting the value of moral good (when they know the don't actually value it in a sexual partner) women could avoid being deceptive. That would cause a loss in power though. If you acknowledge that you don't actually care about morality as long as you're getting what you want--you lose the ability to shame immorality. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:52 AM
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Why didn't you include the study for the first point? It's the most important one and the one where you're making the biggest claim. Female Partner Earns More Causes Male Partner to be More Stressed Than If He Were The BreadWinner. A study from the University of Bath suggests that the trend of female breadwinners is impacting male partners' mental health. The study examined 6,000 American heterosexual married couples over the course of 15 years to see how this shift has impacted people's physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:34 AM
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ChatGPT also exists for women who are too "scared of misogyny" to put effort into participating in a conversation. The women in your OP should just give up and do that too going by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:10 AM
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"I show up, show them I only offer sex, then they always leave after sex! What gives??"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:59 PM
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Tell me you got pump and dumped without telling me you got pump and dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:29 AM
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You could also argue her actions were meant to smear him because she was mad about him moving on and finding happiness without her. If she were trying to expose an abuser, why did she need to wait until after he married another women, got her pregnant, then birthed his first child? It's too late to protect anyone at that point. "Exposing" him helps nobody. It just made a bunch of women on the internet post mean things about him. If anything she just dumped more stress on his wife while she was s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:59 PM
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Society certainly didn't have a problem with Jonah Hill's ex doing so years later, conveniently right when he became a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:03 AM
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if you cared about how men felt you would know 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:46 AM
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That's literally exactly why most men get into those 2 things. The health benefits, and social fulfillment get us to stay. Putting powder on your face to look more fuckable has no such benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:34 AM
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Kinda like how women do with relational responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:09 AM
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"Paid sex is evil unless it's on camera"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:29 PM
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But I guess you’re saying you’re okay with a double standard an unfair rule here that positively effects you and negatively effects you’re bf. When generally, women who give a response like yours here, also want to “end” double standards unfair rules as a general goal. But the reality is, you only want to end the double standards unfair rules that arnt in your favor, only leading to the power imbalance felt by men as made clear by the rise in support of manosphere influencers, that whether like …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:05 AM
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I am literally asking for your judgement. I didn't ask whether you feel the need to judge other people, or if people have the right to agree on things. I asked if you would consider this hypothetical to be a double standard. It's a yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:55 AM
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Would you also say a heterosexual couple with a "cheating is allowed, but only if it doesn't involve a penis going inside you" rule isn't a double standard either? They are both allowed to do the same thing after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:48 AM
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Right lol. Women will openly disrespect dudes who know where they live all the time but politely declining a rando is apparently playing russian roulette.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:39 AM
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Respectable income with attractive physical features and a good personality. This woman's idea of the first requirement already cuts off like 95% of the workforce. Next, filter out aaaaaaalll the rich dudes who are ugly, repulsively fat, or mean. (it's a lot!) Also all the ones already taken or married. Probably the ones who have kids or are significantly shorter than her too. Old dudes are prob out too i bet. Oh yeah, remove the rich women from that remaining 5% of the workforce too. Calling th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:24 AM
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b-b-but she had to pick the movie 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:28 AM
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you can't "use" someone for a relationship like an object because you can't have a relationship with an object. So anyone you have a relationship with can't be used? Sounds like a girl you are in a casual RELATIONSHIP with cant be USED for sex either. She wants a family and thinks youll help her start it? Ignore it, never mention your real plans and keep fucking! She's not being used after all so it's super kind. Can't use someone like an object because she's not an object, so there's 0 issue! Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:22 PM
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A lifeless body very much can be used. Not in any way that is relevant to the topic. I understand you're trying to remove the emotional context of the word "use" and using the general meaning instead so we can argue about that instead of your flawed logic. Knock off the necromancer whataboutism. If you want to argue about how corpses & skeletons feel about noncommital necrophiles, find the correct subreddit, this is not SpookyPillDebate. We are talking about living people inhabiting bodies that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:37 AM
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You are saying a body-less life cannot be used. I get it. But a lifeless body, by itself can't be used as a tool either. The point you're making is irrelavent. Body and life are both necessary. This topic isn't about dudes "using" lifeless bodies. Or women "using" bodyless lives. This is about people using people. Both situations, someones time, emotions, and effort are being invested with a partner who knows they have different goals. You're changing the guilty party based on their gender and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:36 AM
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Do you believe human life has 0 utility? If not, then you are contradicting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:24 AM
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Everything you said could be said about sex too. Just replace "lives" with "bodies."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:47 AM
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Ahh I misunderstood this one. So you read this hypothetical one wants more for sure and the other isn't sure? Well the unsure one still needs to decide but Id generally advise the other person not to date someone whose unsure in the first place. I don't think settling is healthy for anyone and I think being settled for is worse. But the unsure person is resolponsible for sharing that and being honest about it. The sure person is responsible for managing their feelings around that and deciding wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:21 AM
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So you can't be friends with people you're attracted to. Then that's up to you to manage, not other people. You're assuming someone being attractive means I automatically want to fuck them. I've already stated how I manage it. No need to be snarky. I actually agree with this. For all genders. If a situation isn't good for you/bringing you joy, you should walk away. But there's a difference between lying and manipulation and someone agreeing to something they can't handle but that they thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:32 AM
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You've never had a crush on a friend been rejected and stayed friends and the crush went away? No. So you view your friends as disposable if you get an unrequited crush on them? No. I don't get "crushes" on my friends. People who I want to fuck are filtered away from the "friends" bucket from the start. And if you have unrequited feelings and can't handle being someone's friend, it's up to you to end that association. Not the other person. Do you have no autonomy? Then if women have unrequited f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:47 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:59 AM
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I know, that's what I said. But being led on is labor, no matter which gender. Which is my and OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:57 AM
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yeah are you scared to answer my question because you know you're wrong? 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:50 AM
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And to be a friendship it requires one party not having unrequited feelings, which is not the situation OP is describing. Deliberately leading a man on (ie manipulating his feelings) voids that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:48 AM
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What doesn't? Women, never have sex, regret it, and lie about being sexually assaulted? Are all men who had sex, then were tried and found not guilty of sexual assault all criminals who got away then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:43 AM
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Passing one dealbreaker doesn't mean someone is a good deal. Most women would prefer a man with a job. If they had to choose between a jobless Jason Mamoa and Quasimoto with a job at burger king, who would most pick? iF iTs nOt QuAsImOtO, hAvInG a JoB dOeSnT MatTeR
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:36 AM
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The consenting woman who changed her mind is a liar too then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:21 AM
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and lots of men arent in relationships because they're too much labor 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:19 AM
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If you view consensual sex as a thing someone can trick you into doing, you shouldn't be having sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:17 AM
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Of men who have never had an inkling of desire to have casual sex with a single woman in their entire life, and crave nothing but exclusive relationships forever? Nah, I think my ballpark estimates prob pretty close.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:58 AM
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"I'm 35 but men tell me I look 25" is women's "My mom says I'm handsome and charming."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:54 AM
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Better to have lived a fulfilling life for yourself, than to be partnered to a man just for the sake of it. If only there were more options than living a fulfilling life or marrying some bum just for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:43 AM
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I might also add I never had any interest in casual sex or friends with benefits. Clearly, you are just like the vast majority of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:31 AM
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You're not gonna get her to admit it lol. Women can admit they give a guy points for having hairy forearms or big hands but nice-and-big-but-not-too-big dick that goes directly into their most intimate parts? Don't even notice the difference! May as well not even exist, 0 positive or negative emotions from the entire female population. could be below average and itd feel the exact same. (until they're mad, then suddenly you should be ashamed of your tiny dick)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:23 AM
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Oh I never considered that actually. Does make sense though. Don't want to build a life with a guy who's holding out for his "real" family. That would suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:53 PM
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That sounds shitty but hearing it as an outsider is pretty funny ngl. What's even being assumed about you? Not really down with the brown? Just a booty tourist? I always assumed just being willing to participate in gay sex was enough to get you taken seriosuly by gay dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:12 PM
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Why the government intervention now? Like everything else, based on your rules, lay down your expectations at the beginning of the relationship and never change them, or forgo them forever. Plus you're assuming the guy is gonna be a deadbeat. Most men aren't deadbeats, just like most women aren't getting knocked up by randos. I agree, if you think being a deadbeat is justified, you shouldn't have kids. I'd also say if you think tricking your husband into raising some other dudes kid is justified…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:38 AM
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Yep. If you want to ensure your partner isn't a psycho that badly, ask for the test. If it's that important to you, make it known at the very start of the relationship that you will want this test done when you get pregnant. Cool, by that logic women should also make their potential child support, and alimony demands known at the beginning of every single relationship too, and lose the right to mandatory government mediation if they don't. After all, since they didn't lay it out right after meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:44 AM
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Nope. Once again, simply declaring them to be the same thing does not make it true. I didn't simply declare it. I've spent the past 4 posts explaining it. you are the one refusing to explain why it's wrong. you can't even commit to calling it false. Except you said it in reply to me saying that you are welcome to get a paternity test any time you want. So now you're agreeing that divorce trials and getting paternity tests any time you want are the same process, thus eliminating any need for mand…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:07 AM
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Great point. Current answer is easy. Most guys would also be happy to take a pre-first date "is she an evil bitch" test and walk away if the girl freaks out. OPs example sucks. Let's make it more parallel to the current topic. test results are 99.9% inaccurate until you're pregnant. Also if you can't legally prove he's a psycho by the time the kid is 1, you have to spend at least 15 working hours a week minimum with Mr. Crazy until the child is 18 anyway. Even if he is psycho. If you don't meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:39 AM
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A useless, costly, and insulting imposition that caters to a small but immensely insecure group of men. You're still failing to draw any comparison between alimony/child support and paternity testing. So are child support/alimony hearings. you're still failing to show the difference between the two. Just using subjective bad words to describe the thing you don't like that are just as valid for the thing you're supporting. I'm not though. You tried to act like a smartass with your "why don't you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:20 AM
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Sounds like you are accusing your partner of being a psychopath. Also if it comes back negative you should be dumped for asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:04 AM
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Living separately is not going to stop someone from murdering you. A woman who thinks a man is going to murder her can leave. Police will not come after a woman for abandoning a seemingly murderous husband. Police will come after a man for abandoning his pregnant wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:58 AM
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You're more than welcome to civilly sue your former partner if you feel entitled to their future wages after you choose leave. "What do you think divorce trials are???" You're more than welcome to get a paternity test if you don't trust your spouse. "What do you think mandatory paternity tests would be???" We can keep going around in circles but you're just proving OPs point. It makes "perfect sense" for the government to force their will when it comes to ensuring a woman gets free money. When t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:48 AM
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And you screaming that they aren't doesn't make it untrue. You're more than welcome to civilly sue your former partner if you feel entitled to their future wages after you choose leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:24 AM
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Literally everything you said also holds true for negotiating child support, alimony etc. You could also argue women just want child support/alimony because they want to be able to harass their exes for free money without social or legal consequences. If you chose to look at it the same way, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:04 AM
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Sex benefits men more from a sociological standpoint, because they are privileged during sex from a biological standpoint. Therefore the redpill complaint about not getting sex easily is unreasonable. Women benefit from male respect far more than men because they have the added bonus of using the "women are wonderful" effect to manipulate further. They are more privileged when it comes to workplace negotiations. Therefore, using your logic, all women who complain about not being respected in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:40 AM
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7.5-10 women (and men tbh) with untreated mental illnesses get down far more than you would expect. they have plenty of chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:30 PM
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Money is not the driving factor of hypergamy in most cases. It's usually the least important, in fact. Besides, it's not like women making more money also raised men's salaries by that same amount. Of course marriages would look more balanced. Women's income rose and mens stayed the same. It says nothing about hypergamy. It's not like women wanting there to be more men with way more money than them was going to suddenly make those men appear in the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:15 PM
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When women are given equal rights to men, hypergamy decreases. Does it though? It stems from a time where women and men had the same amount of rights--none.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:00 PM
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The reason being that if you are looking for a fun and enjoyable sexual experience there should also be compatibility that will allow for goofiness, laughs, awkward moments without embarrassment and pressure. It's impossible to know if someone will be like this during sex, without having sex with them. Women just act like being entertaining on dates and not ugly proves it because it's fun and convenient for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:05 AM
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ya fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:27 AM
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tldr: nvm, i agree ops lying. still disagree about not calling 911 being unusal tho a) you ignored all the other points I brought up as to why finding an unconscious person in the middle of the road constitutes a medical emergency, and I'm rather shocked that anybody needs to be told that if you stumble across an unconscious person who can't be woken up, you need to call 911. I ignored your other points because OP never said them, . All he said was he found some chick sleeping in the street who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:14 PM
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It is about sex. Creepy dudes don't hit on girls because they're hoping to score hair care tips. And women don't lap up attention from popular hot sexy guys because they might teach them their jumpshot. The offer of food is attention. Women might be "forced" to react, but they can react to this offer however they want. You're implying women are forced to eat every dish they are offered, and they are all disgusting. They are forced to do something: choose whether they want to eat the food or not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:21 AM
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This would be a good equivalent if women were "forced" to have sex with every man who gave them attention. A better equivalent is starving vs being offered mostly average, and occasionally disgusting/5 star meals. Also you can publicly shame the people offering you shit you don't want. Nobody would choose the former. The latter definitely wouldn't switch, but they would be happy to act like it sucks on the internet I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:20 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:05 AM
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People have literally done this since before the internet/manosphere existed. If convincing yourself only autistic men on the internet consciously pay attention to strangers' attractive features helps you sleep at night more power to you I guess. The rest of us will be here in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:59 AM
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You don't need to ask for sexual consent where you live? Are you in India?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:25 PM
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It's not verbalized the same way as it is here, on a debate forum, but you know damn well normal men do this all the time. "She's like a 6 bro" "Damn she's a dime" "Face is a 7 but those titties are a 9" If you heard a guy saying this with a bunch of other dudes you'de really read it as a bunch of autistic dudes crunching numbers? Girls do the same thing too, especially when they start looking for a husband. They just don't bother trying to quantify it with a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:22 PM
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So following the rules of society shows he has a lack of social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:10 PM
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I was the same way mid-20s. If you're thinking this way you are not, and will not be the most aggressive guy a woman has run into. Trust me. Be aggressive. The ones who like you will love it. Less importantly, the ones who don't like you will call you pushy and disrespectful or just using them for sex or something negative because they don't want sex from you. If they react like this sexually disengage, anything beyond platonic friends is off the table, and ask yourself if you want a platonic fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:03 PM
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You teach them how to connect the dots. And by that I mean: Hide/minimize all that nerdy shit. Put up a "You won't be embarrassed to tell your friends you fucked me" front. Smash as many girls as possible then wife up the one who doesn't disappear when you whip out the hand painted 3D printed Warhammer 40k statue set.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:26 AM
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Lesbian with a simp baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:38 AM
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Gay male reduced danger from innate physical strength compared to lesbian I know this is supposed to be a fun light hearted fun post but holy shit lmao No gay men here to point out the flaw in this thinking? I'd say gay dudes are infinitely more likely to get jumped than lesbians & having like 50% more strength or whatever doesn't mean jack shit when 4 dudes want to stomp you out because they lost a fight last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:59 AM
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No quote this time? Be careful or you might start gaining some self awareness! Keep hammering away. Maybe I'll stop focusing on women's lack of accountability and argue about shit nobody was talking about if you keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:41 AM
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You make great points. Sounds like you would be terrible for marriage. Make sure to remember this post and never bug a guy for commitment again, no matter how many times you let him fuck. You go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:38 AM
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How else are women supposed to avoid thinking about their unhealthy habits? Ah, deflecting to extremist quotes from random TRP posts. That's how. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:24 PM
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Yeah, but reducing a man's version of intimacy to forced passionless sex makes it way easier to invalidate. How else are women supposed to avoid thinking about their unhealthy habits?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:02 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:34 PM
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Actually, they do. Be respectful and/or disengage if you can't. All people have this obligation in a healthy society. "You aren't entitled to anything from me, and that includes basic human decency" is yet another of the rules for thee and not for me that men have to pretend doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:02 AM
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Women complain about this constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:28 PM
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Did someone finally taking the bait feel as good as you'de hoped?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:47 AM
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You can date women if men lying upsets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:31 AM
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Clearly, they popped out their mothers womb hating women thinking "the only way I will be able to start a loving family is by being bitter." That's it. You've figured out why single men who want relationships are unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:25 AM
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I absolutely agree. That's all the more reason women won't be solving this problem for us. Nor should we expect them to. They literally can't. Anything beyond their understanding is "scary" and to be shamed/repressed, as you said. Men need to learn to identify their emotions first and foremost before they can even consider getting help with them. Then when that's considered acceptable, take those understood feelings to other men who know how to deal with those emotions. This is what women do. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:18 AM
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Exactly. I began journaling recently too and it's crazy the amount of psychopathic sounding shit I've been pushing down because "I don't care." This is what clued me in to how much power men actually have in this situation. Figuring out my emotions and talking about it with my boys has helped even though the best they can give back is a "that sucks man." No women needed. The darkness of the thoughts in the first place is because we get conditioned to push those thoughts down. Every time we do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:38 PM
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Collectively acknowledging their own primitive instinct, one that men are already aware of and universally agree on without their input, would do nothing. What would men get? A moment to say "Aha! I told you so!" then what? Will the ground split open and men's mental health clincs pop up all over the world and every guys friend group automatically gets a venting day? Women can't do anything to help us support ourselves. The best they can do is get out of the way and knock off the virtue signalin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:30 PM
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The most women can do is not get in the way of men's spaces being created. They cannot make men learn how to support each others emotions. The same way men can't take credit for women having stronger social networks, men can't blame women for their own lack of it. <- If you don't respond to anything else in my post, please give your thoughts on this point. I think you're either overvaluing women's role in male emotional expression, or undervaluing the power of same gender allies. Women can help …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:14 PM
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Not sure what point you're making. Could you be more specific about what you're disagreeing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:49 PM
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You are right that the range of negative emotions men are able to show is more limited than women. Never really thought about it in those terms. I do think this is one of those problems men have to fix for ourselves though. Not sure how, but this isn't something women can fix for us. Certainly they could acknowledge their part of the problem, and try to do better, but we're the ones who aren't trying making opening up more socially acceptable amongst ourselves. Women can do it because ALL women …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:25 PM
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Sounds like he values shiny and low maintenance over stability. No shade, nobody's dad is perfect. That said looking at your post again most of that stuff you shouldn't be doing anyway. Especially trying to be his ideal woman. Doing all the other stuff at the same time basically sounds like lovebombing. If you being you, being appropriately nice isn't enough, he's not the guy. Imagine if marriage was a literal contract to the death. Would you wanna sign with the guy you had to trick into signing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:07 PM
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You should ask your Dad and Grandpa how they pick women. Are your mom and grandma still married? Men who want a healthy marriage don't want to marry lazy high maintenance women. Fuck, sure. Maybe even fuck for a while, But logically why would I choose to commit to the option that's going to get less beautiful AND more annoying as time goes on. Men choose women based on 1. Who they find physically attractive then 2. Who is the easiest to hang out with. In that order. The same way a man can't Neg …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:22 PM
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This statistic has been debunked and the original person who put it out even recanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:07 AM
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If he has decent game and has a solid career he'll start getting easy dates from cute mid 20s to late 30s women when he hits his mid-late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:32 AM
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It's a good thing toxic people always are forthcoming about their thoughts and problems early on in the relationship. Do you think all female victims of DV met their husbands in a UFC ring too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:40 AM
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I had an ex that did this but she palette swapped her ex-husband with the guy she secretely cheated on him with (who only wanted her for a quick pump and dump). Didn't realize it until it happened to me at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:59 AM
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Not really a curse. Dialing back fuckboy just means paying attention to less women. Very easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:47 PM
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"Here's a super loyal and grateful guy who's a 6, if you support him for about 2 years he'll turn into an 8 and always remember and appreciate the support." "Here's a guy who's already an 8.5. You can't do jack shit for him but he'll make you look great until he gets bored. He'll throw you some nice scraps until then though." Throw both those guys at the average 6.5 and guess who she'll decide she has "chemistry" with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:04 AM
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Requires too much self awareness and discipline that won't get you any immediate pats on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:39 AM
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Have you ever considered that some people who sleep around aren’t looking to get married? So they aren’t worried about divorce rates lol. There are people who enjoy casual sex with others and don’t want to be tied to one person. Have you considered this is what every born again virgin told themself 5 years prior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:25 AM
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and I'm telling you, I'm using it in the eye of the beholder sense. everyone gets a different stack of shit they personally find attractive based on their culture and upbringing too. Americans and Chinese people have completely different ideas about beauty. The average of all humans' base instincts means doesn't say much about the individual. Even if it did, you're basically pointing out a 10% difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:12 PM
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Go where you're appreciated, not tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:21 PM
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Nah. If a guy doesn't think his woman is beautiful he shouldn't be with her. Also, notice I didn't say what the girls in group 3 look like. You just assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:01 PM
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In terms of difficulty of achievement: LTR with beautiful committed woman who respects you > Casual sex > Relationship with unnappreciatve partner who enjoys your investment, not you. 3 is the biggest group. Guys have to fake investment to achieve it and get mid sex. This is the relationship that is "easy." 2 is harder because women in this group have something to lose, and won't act dull to protect their ego. 1 is hardest because it requires actual investment and effort from the woman aside fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:29 AM
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Whatever you say bro, just pointing out you got LTE. Not talking smartphones either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:50 AM
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found the baby tongue
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 01:57 PM
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More women would prefer getting their pussy eaten by a guy with a gene simmons toungue than an average one. More women cum exclusively from oral too. Are with dudes with average sized tongues more fucked than average dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 10:04 AM
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He's not trying to control the interpretation. He's pointing out the hypocrisy. If a man changes his mind he knew his intentions all along. Lots of men do it and if he honestly changes his mind it's okay, but he's probably lying. Shame him. Women on the other hand neeeeeeever imply sex to get free shit. Never ever. And if someone does they are a super rare asshole and it's your fault for finding them. She definitely just changed her mind after you paid. Pick better. Even just in this topic, men …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:44 AM
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I never disputed your "women control the dating market" theory. I said it was irrelavent to my question, and explained why. You continuing to ignore my explanation and now tripling down on something that still has nothing to do with my point is telling. You won't engage with my point because you know it ruins yours. There are other beautiful, fertile, and horny women to take their reigns. None of those facts negate this point. The "undesirable" women drop out and now the number is 4 dudes to eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:10 AM
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I accept you doubling down on a weak, lazy point that I've already proven irrelavent (instead of engaging with my point) as you admitting you're wrong. ggs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:04 AM
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Maybe your version of game lol. Start reworking it if you don't like it. Nobody's making you neg chicks and act dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:13 PM
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Not me, OP. I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:54 AM
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Just 1 is fine. Those 3 categories can. There are other beautiful, fertile, and horny women to take their reigns. Should they bow out alongside the broke men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:05 AM
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I am mocking the person you responded to with sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:45 AM
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im agreeing w you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:40 AM
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Seems like he just wants a girl who is LTR minded and won't ghost/lead him on. Not in great supply at age 21 tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:05 AM
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So ugly, celibate, and infertile women should all bow out of the dating game as well, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:37 AM
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"Men have been forced to adapt to getting screwed over, that means they prefer it this way"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:19 AM
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Pretty convenient how women's romance involves making themselves attractive to all men (not just their partner) or enjoying the good stuff their partner does for them. Maybe we can start saying men are being romantic when they hit the gym and nut during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:16 AM
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Same way if a man does all that stuff +sex and -emotional support none of that shit really matters for women either. Does that mean you only care about someone listening to you talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:07 AM
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Because they are selfish toxic manipulative monsters. Women who do it however, are in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:36 AM
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Exactly why this dude is fucked. Might be good she made this post but I anticipate she'll start resenting him for not reciprocating the fakeness (that he never asked for) then kaboom A large portion of women who "work way harder than their men" start their relationships like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:25 AM
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Being nicer and more agreeable than what comes naturally as a form of manipulation? Congrats, you discovered love-bombing. Looking forward to you figuring out how to devalue and discard the same guy! (hint: take that stuff away, demand more, blame the guy for all the continuing problems in your life and finally force him to break-up so you can be a real pink pill princess victim✨)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:18 AM
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Recovering from those situations and engaging with those feelings in a healthy manner takes lots of individual work. Many, MANY single women lie about putting in emotional work and being able to individually handle their baggage. Say a man gives a woman like that the benefit of the doubt. When she eventually blows up the relationship, and causes as much collateral damage to your life as she can to pacify her own anger or whatever, you will look like a dumbass "for ignoring the red flags."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:21 PM
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Communicating with people who want to believe the worst in you just gives them ammo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:36 AM
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The smoking gun is the complete lack of context from her. No texts from her, no details about any of the the stuff he complained about, questionable photos scrubbed from insta etc. Just his reaction to her actions. If he's the one with control issues, why is she still trying to disrupt his life after he's disconnected? What does she have to gain since she should have "regained" the control he was "trying to take" by dumping her. It's almost as if his control is inconsequential and she actually j…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:34 AM
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Obviously. She wanted to play with him and he walked away before she could embarrass him to satisfaction. It's not a coincidence she suddenly needed to expose him immediately after he had a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:26 AM
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I see no such posts in your history before I called you out on it, so my point still stands. You were judging him more harshly even though she's clearly the one acting maliciously. In any case, what do you recommend a man do when he wants to compromise? Clearly, explaining the terms of compromise, and making it clear there will be no hard feelings if the offer is declined is being controlling. So what's the non controlling way to communicate your needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:19 AM
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I never said communication skills couldn't be taught, or that most people can't communicate with autistic people, or that autistic people are incapable of communication. I just said the non-autistic person will always be held responsible for breaks in communication, because they don't have a communicative disability. Plus, autistic people can be emotionally abusive too lol And? People with Tourettes can also have odd patterns throughout their day. My point is whether they are working on it or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:35 AM
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All interpersonal issues in relationships are communicative or physical. Unless he's beating her up, every problem in the relationship can be explained away with "yes, but you know he's autistic. It's your fault for choosing an autistic guy." If you don't have a communicative disability, and your partner does, communication is on you by default. It's like how you can never really blame your blind partner's poor driving for crashing your car. Men already have to accept this by dynamic by default,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:56 AM
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I think whether a women would bang an autistic dude is moreso up to how well he can conceal his autism. Homie just has to act like he knows what he's doing for a couple of dates and he's in. I think they just won't commit to a publicly known autistic guy because no matter how much he has going on, the women around her can always one-up her. Also, she can never be the victim in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:44 AM
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Men can brag about bagging a sexy woman even if she's autistic. Nobody's gonna shit on a guy for banging a big titty autistic e-girl unless she's also physically deformed. Women know other women around them will always have a "yeah, well my man isn't autistic" one-up no matter how attractive the guy is so they have to pretend to care about manipulating him. Sex vs Commitment etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:17 AM
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But the difference is most, not all, but most women in committed relationships, engaged, married, as kids ect., won't be out disrespecting their partner by cheating because it makes them look like they made the wrong choice, which is embarrassing to themselves. And to avoid this embarrassment they mentally breakup with the guy (without outright saying it of course) and start smearing him to whoever listens (first usually via emotional cheating, next family and friends), because as long as they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:49 AM
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Lmao everyone's so caught up in trying to make this argument wrong they aren't even trying to understand the point. They see the words "bikini pic" and "high body count" and just fill in the rest with "her bikini pics means she's taken lots of dick." I understand the double bind you've posted here OP. Are men supposed to assume a women will never change, and pointing out what makes us uncomfortable is being controlling (and thus we should write off all women with a promiscuous past as "sex only"…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:24 AM
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So you're saying...they're expected to approach and hit on attractive women!?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:13 AM
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Most women don’t want that from most men And how, pray tell, do you think men figure out whether they fit in the "i want you hitting on me" or the "I don't want you hitting on me" camp with a specific lady who is dressed like she's open to sexual attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:07 AM
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But you aren't just "thinking" it. You are publicly shaming him like hundreds of thousands of women and purposely downplaying all the optics that show her to be petty and spiteful. If you think she was also wrong, and her wrong act is what caused this whole thing to happen in the first place, why aren't you also calling her names and publicly judging her? Again, if the genders were reversed would you be saying "Sure he publicly released private texts, with no context on what he said to garner su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:01 AM
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Do you think he should do the same with the mistakes she made in the relationship? Just screencap and send them to the media with 0 context, no warning to her and only explain his side. People deserve to know apparently. Actually, maybe he should wait till she has a baby, like 2 months after. You'de dog pile on the new mother too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:49 AM
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You've certainly disproved my theory that you didn't particularly care about his needs with this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:00 AM
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At the end of the day, no one likes a boring person. I don't understand the guys here who claim they just want a doormat bangmaid who never speaks her mind or is "peaceful". Men like drama too, it makes you feel alive. Nah. These types act like bangmaid doormats in the beginning to get you hooked. Not once in my LTR with this type did I think "wow thank god she's purposely ruining the weekend. I'd have been so bored if I had to focus on enjoying the events I spent the past week planning. Now I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:40 AM
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I thought the question of the post asked if women know how to make the average men happy without the man having verbaly expressed anything yet, otherwise the question is just stupid "do women know how to make a man happy, after we tell them exactly how they can make that man happy?". No, the last two paragraphs point out how women don't even make it that far most of the time. They assume they know what the guy wants without ever actually asking what they really value. Look at the last sentence i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:25 PM
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Has the current bf ever told you he was unhappy about anything? If it's not too personal, what was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:52 AM
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Dope, thank you for the thoughtful answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:50 AM
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Sounds like you didn't care enough about him to remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:49 AM
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It's a pretty safe bet that doing those things will keep most men happy. Yes, and as a guy having 10% bodyfat, being perfectly understanding of a woman's emotions and communicating that understanding flawlessly, never nutting early, and making 500k a year would also make most women happy. That doesn't mean a guy aiming for or even doing all that stuff can a maintain a healthy long term relationship. Also, i've said it on a different comment, I think almost all women are highly in tune with how o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:41 AM
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You also cited it as proof that women "know what to do" as you said. If most of those things are unnecessary, and so different based on the individual, and women are using that (mostly unnecessary) list to judge themselves, wouldn't it imply that women, in fact, don't actually know what to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:48 AM
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So if they're merely "nice to have" that means none of those things are actually necessary to have a successful happy long term relationship then, no? On a car, cupholders are nice to have, a steering wheel is necessary. Which one is that list closer to? In your first post you made it sound like women believe all that stuff is necessary to keep a man happy and feel pressure because of it, now you're making it sound nice but not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:12 AM
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And if you can remember, what were some differences between each partners answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:53 AM
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And if you can remember, what were some differences between each partners answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:53 AM
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and what did he say when he was ready?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:52 AM
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what did he tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:52 AM
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What part do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:49 AM
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Your partners have communicated that they expect all of those things from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:07 AM
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I’ve never heard of a man being realistically afraid that a woman would use her superior upper body strength to physically overpower him and penetrate his vagina, anus, or mouth against his will with her penis. Do most men fear being forcibly penetrated by women? By sharp objects, yes. If every man women sleep with is a potential rapist, why are men supposed to assume every woman they sleep with isn't a potential murderer? Besides that, men are at risk of false rape claims too. I know men that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:51 AM
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(1) we feel safe with, and (2) actually makes an effort to fulfill our needs, as opposed to just using our bodies to masturbate. Women don't provide these, or even communicate what these two things entail in most casual situations either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:23 AM
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Because it's fun for them too in the moment. People make short term gain long term loss decisions all the time. Same reason why people casually accept that booze does damage to your body, mind, and (more recently) overall life expectancy but keep on drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:52 AM
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Not fat now, and will do her best to be not fat later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:09 AM
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lol trust me, I've experienced the same disappointment. IME most women only do a couple things wrong. A girl who is good at giving head basically just uses lots of slobber, keeps her teeth out of the way and is reasonably gentle. Anything beyond that is personal preference, which like you said comes from time and care, not a large volume of different dicks. I think people conflate the fact that literal whores give great head and apply it to all girls who let a bunch of dudes fuck them. The diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:18 AM
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Also it takes like 10 minutes to teach a girl how to give good head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:03 AM
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Be careful with that logic. Women that desire control and try to gain it by antagonizing you don't submit forever. They'll outwardly respect you and "compromise" but that resentment festers and they'll just start undermining you behind your back for a sense of control. Then the second you get caught in a vulnerable situation she'll be there to capitalize on it, shit on you, and then blame you for the fallout. Ask me how I know lol. If you're out before she can hatch her big revenge scheme you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:43 AM
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It does because they would actually prefer a guy who just holds everything in (or at least, keeps it unavailable to them) and "moves on" from their bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:10 AM
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Women want an emotionally intelligent & available man but avoid being accountable for how their actions affect said man's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:57 AM
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Even then most women suck ass picking gifts for men, and just use the cleaning as a reason to resent you for chilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:17 AM
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That's true, and I agree that that's the way it's mostly used. I think that's because it's mainly women using the term though, even to get ahead of their own abusive behavior. So we end up in a situation like now where women are just as, if not more abusive than men but the victims can't recognize it. I agree that it's a problem, but so what? We're men. We fix problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:00 AM
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Same with any physical altercation. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:32 AM
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I wouldn't call them crazy This topic has nothing to do with them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:24 AM
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Oh, that sucks. I'm not really well versed in autism. Does that mean even if you're taught a system to understand human interaction you cant do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:14 PM
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the inability to read social cues isn't something I can change What makes it impossible for you to read social cues?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:24 PM
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Dope, if that's what you think'll make you happy you should go for it man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:54 AM
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and women wonder why men turn to TRP lol. You got 2 choices as a man: build your value or wallow in shit. Either way life keeps on going, and we all have limited time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:48 AM
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That's how shit people think before they do shitty things to you. You can keep running around screwing people over and getting screwed, or build something beautiful and try to find people willing to lean on you and be leaned on, choice is yours. You get to decide what kind of energy you surround yourself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:22 AM
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Good people who want to build together are exceedingly hard to find, man or woman. All you can do is learn how to navigate with shit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:00 AM
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Yeah. Some people literally think "if I feel this secure, they must be hiding something" but always feel like they win by screwing the other person over "first" so never see a need to change. Toxic people in a nutshell. on the flip side, emotionally healthy people will be turned off by unhealthy and inappropriate levels of affection and attention. This isn't always true though. Lovebombing works on emotionally healthy people plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:47 AM
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Maybe you got pump and dumped a bunch in the past because you aren't as good of a liar as you think. Dating a woman who lies about her sex life is a great way to end up getting abused or raisimg some other dudes baby. Most guys don't feel bad using girls that are trying to use them. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:02 AM
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That could also be true. I actually hadn't considered that. Every fumble isn't necessarily malicious after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:48 AM
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did you get married just to have someone to be mad at everyday Asked my ex this too...her answer. "You tell me, since you've got me all figured out" lol It's literally only subs who do this. This has actually been my experience too. I thought about including it, but didn't because I still have hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:17 AM
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I mean, if you reread my posts, i made it a point to say usually, most of the time, tend to etc. I've been saying it depends on the man or woman, just women tend to do it more, and see it as less of a problem. Men also tend to have their own set of problematic habits in relationships that they do more commonly (but again, not exclusively). I don't see any harm in making generalizations based on experience as long as you acknowledge the person in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:52 AM
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It's really up to the individual. I can't tell a woman how to be herself. "Know your role" probably sounds like i'm implying "and that role is...in the kitchen!!" but I mean just take care of your shit and let me take care of mine. If we're both doing that and not trying to do dumb power games neither party should be seen as combative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:40 AM
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Most of my friends are men too. Looks like we both have the same authority on the topic. Anyway, I'm sure there are men like that. Just like there are women who refuse to tell a guy how she really feels in a relationship. Men wanting to argue about nothing too much isn't usually what I hear women complain about in relationships though. A lack of communication is far more common. If that's not a problem in your or your friends' relationships, kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:29 AM
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No. Have you dated straight women? You might be surprised how caricature-esque they act in relationships. Especially compared to non-binary women. I've had that conversation verbatim with an ex. With about 5 more minutes of discourse and other options. We ended up getting pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:13 AM
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First paragraph yes. I think far less men tend to disagree with their s/o's for the sake of excitement though. You might've responded while I was editing my post. The whole "what do you want to eat" "whatever you want" "anything's fine" "pizza" "I don't want pizza though" thing seems like a pretty gendered trope imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:01 AM
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Honestly, I don't think most men actually want a submissive woman, they just want a woman who doesn't want to fight about dumb shit and can admit when she's wrong. Even look at your example. His main complaint is women being too combative. It's not like the only options are either being combative or just deferring everything to the guy. Just be a team player. When I think about a traditional woman, I think about a woman who knows her role and is comfortable in it. When I think bitchy modern woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:41 AM
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I've noticed usually it's girls that are roughly my level or slightly lower that feel the need to "win" by playing games. The most traditionally beautiful women I've been with tended to be pretty straightforward when they did or didn't like me. They def have options lol. I always assumed it was similar to how really rich people don't feel the need to flaunt their wealth. Could be because I unknowingly conduct myself differently around those types of girls though, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:30 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:34 PM
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Seems like you aren't actually reading my posts If the hypothetical guy doesnt want sex that much anyway she has even less of a reason to not be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:13 AM
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Ok? What does that have to do with anything? My point was that he wasn't shaming her for having a low n count, and that she doesn't need a huge N-count to get relationship experience. She just needs to find 1 good guy, treat him well, and commit to him. If the hypothetical guy doesnt want sex that much anyway she has even less of a reason to not be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:50 AM
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He's pointIng out she has no relationship experience. You don't need to fuck 50 different guys to figure out how to keep a boyfriend. Here, i can give her the cheat code to always keeping her boyfriend sexually satisfied: don't say no. If you can't, offer a blowjob or at least a back rub. Something HE likes, to show you care even when you aren't in the mood. Done. No need to fuck more than a couple dudes. Now she has to figure out the other 99% of being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:35 AM
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Men who do this and admit it constantly get berated for using women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:51 AM
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I never said it was. You removed the negative result from my example and added an extended timeframe to yours to make it sound worse because you know they are fundamentally the same thing without those modifiers. Deciding you aren't interested after sex, and deciding you aren't interested after dinner are the same thing. The only difference is who's more invested at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:13 AM
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Same way lots of women decide a man isn't worth responding to after he's paid for the meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:25 AM
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Would you say a woman who comes to my house, makes out, then decides she doesn't want sex is also a liar who's using me? Just because a man wants an LTR and has sex with a woman, doesn't mean he wants an LTR with THAT woman, and it's unfair to put that burden of commitment on men when women can opt out of their implied choices at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:17 AM
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From "A Comprehensive Guide to The Red Pill" https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2q582c/a_comprehensive_guide_to_the_red_pill/ Why are women attracted to these “bad boys”? -Power-driven (status) -Low neuroticism and extroverted -Low amounts of empathy and agreeableness -Not prone to being needy or over investing In other words they're a challenge and tend to live life by their own rules. Some research on the subject has also shown that Dark Triad personality types are more likely to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:48 AM
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No need for put-downs. Good try trying to distract me from you goalpost shifting though. No, you claimed literally every reputable journal contradicts what TRP says women mostly value. "You wanna date a 'modern woman', here's what they mostly value," Is contradicted by literally, and I do mean literally, every reputable journal on the subject You did not claim that there is at least 1 single TRP tenet that is not academically backed. You claimed every academically backed study disproves what TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:22 AM
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You're telling me, if I find such a claim on TRPs approved reading, you will find me a reputable journal that disproves it? (since "all" of them say so, as you stated) Otherwise you're just trying to waste my time. You've made an uncited claim, asked me for citation of my disagreement, and judging by your lack of effort so far, it seems like you're going to respond with more uncited claims when I do bring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:04 AM
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"Here's what they value" is not a provable or disprovable claim because you aren't stating specifically what TRP says women value. Since you refuse to provide an actual example, I will. One of the things TRP states is that women value confidence. Are you saying women don't value confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:42 AM
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You mean "pay attention to their actions, not their words"? That's the closest TRPism to "don't listen to women" and it's fantastic advice for vetting. Women should do the same thing even though men also "know what they're attracted to." If that's not what you mean, what specifically are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:29 AM
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You haven't explained any claims The Red Pill makes that are contradicted by these "reputable" girl-getting journals. If literally all of them show results that prove TRP is wrong, this should be incredibly easy. Can you show me any examples of an objectively disproven TRP theory? As a side-note, taking women at their word is how most guys ended up on TRP in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:20 AM
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An income source that requires you to act single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:08 AM
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PUA is just makeup for men. Women don't actually hate it, they just hate interacting with dudes who suck at it, and hate that if a guy can keep it together for a few hours he might slip into their pants. Even though the guys they actually like are deliberately doing the same shit. Men look at makeup the same way. So many dudes claiming to love "natural" women without realizing they're just using natural makeup. Guys'll be disappointed the first time the girl they're hanging with washes her face …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:48 AM
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You're making the same revelations every man does past 24 or so. "Most men" are over 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:19 PM
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Blame the women who strung him along
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:27 PM
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Nah I was kind when I was broke and I'm kind now that I'm financially secure. Thinking being equal means you can act shitty is literal supervillain behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:13 PM
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I get it. Getting to the point where it isn't more effort than it's worth takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:36 PM
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If only there was no big mean husband making her get pregnant, not work, and be noncommital.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:44 AM
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They are the originators. You can either play the game yourself or make them feel dumb for trying. Either way you have to deal with it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:52 AM
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Girls that are playing a bunch of guys string along all of them except the one they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:49 AM
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All of my LTRs have come from first/ second date sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:46 AM
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She's emotionally immature, No sense of humor, boring personality, can't hold a conversation Cooperative and friendly people can't have these traits by default. Unless she just likes hearing me talk about myself? In that case, sure. That's fine. She has different political views I don't know or care about any of the women i've dated's political views. Drowning in debt and terrible with money If she cooperates and lets me handle it I don't care. Awful taste in music, fashion, food, in your opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:37 AM
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A lot of women also accuse men of wanting a woman that is only a slut for him and no one else, and I think there's some truth to this. Of course it's true. Women want a man who puts up with nobody's shit except hers too. I have no idea why women act like a man wanting to feel special is a character flaw, but it's a hard requirement for them. I know we agree, i'm just pointing out if you zoom out a little more it's pure hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:30 AM
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and women get to have all the sex, money, and freedom they want but feel oppressed for being held responsible and judged for their choices. Seems like nobody can win!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:55 AM
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so why all the slutshaming with the n count nonsense when it comes to women? Why do women shame emotional men who post mean things on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:39 AM
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That is not the Madonna-Whore complex. and no, this is not a lifestyle that the average man lived furthermore, what difference does that make? are you saying since some women in the past put up with bs in relationships, men should too? fine. if a woman gets beaten cops should just laugh, and tell her to woman up and deal with it. men have had to deal with that since the dawn of time too. fair's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:10 AM
1

and...?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:04 AM
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All facts. Cold approaching helps you get over your shitty approach tactics quick. Grind enough and the warm approach with the girl who clearly wants to talk is easy. The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:59 PM
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Fuck once then match their effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:18 PM
2

That's what's up man. Whatever gets you where you wanna be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:14 PM
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Would you see a problem with your husband thinking you were an annoying butterface with slightly too many bodies? Hey at least he gets to pretend you're attractive when he fucks you from behind. You get to enjoy some of his money too, if he's in the mood. Aren't you grateful he doesn't kick you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:10 PM
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Just read, talk and surround yourself with people who genuinely appreciate & respect you. Cut out time wasters and disrespectful people. Everything else will follow. Also, seriously, work on your game. It's the actual cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:56 PM
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Where are the incels that turn to TRP coming from if TRP is creating them? Happy dudes who get pussy don't start reading TRP material and suddenly lose the ability to get pussy. This is basically like arguing in spite of all the books on emotional intelligence released over the past few decades, with the advent of social media, people are more emotionally blind than ever, therefore it's the books fault or the authors are all failures. That aside who said the point of trp was to lower the percent…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:10 AM
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But fine, you want traits. I’m emotionally sensitive and completely no nonsense. I’m very respectful and good at compromise and also extremely strong willed. I love caring for my boyfriend and my plants and my dog, and will never ever have children. Are these what you consider to be your feminine & masculine traits? If so, you just proved my point. Other than never wanting children, which a choice, these are all personality traits. Again, I am arguing that personality traits define a women's fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:50 AM
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Big ass booty cheeks. But also, I literally define a woman's femininity as to how her personality & energy compliments my life. Specifically, in a way that my male companions can't. Hobbies are irrelevant. Spending a rainy evening with some drinks and gaming with my girlfriend is a far different experience than doing the same with a homie even though you're doing the same activity. If me hanging with you feels like I'm hanging with a dude, I don't consider you feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:45 AM
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Those are hobbies, not personality traits. I am arguing that personality traits define a women's femininity. I repeat: Try to describe femininity without including personality traits. Unless you mean a womans femininity is defined by her hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:22 AM
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No, her femininity is guided by all those factors. The same way a man's masculinity is. Try to describe femininity without including personality traits. You can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:08 AM
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4 & 5 are a stretch. Femininity is basically personality and low n-count should be "not high n-count" imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:58 AM
2

What do you think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:13 AM
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It's bluepill advice in the same way "just be yourself and it'll work out" is bluepill advice, in spite of technically being correct. Furthermore, it's proof that the red pill isn't a monolithic idealogy. It's a resource to be picked from and studied. How can the beliefs be misogynistic if we don't agree on the beliefs in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:12 AM
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Now imagine that the very people who that man feels put him in the pit cut the rope. "Some people who climb out of the pit are really annoying, that means nobody should even have access to the rope" I'm sure the guy will just instantly become husband material and a happy member of society after that 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:00 AM
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Yeah people don't realize that energy has to go somewhere. Red Pill stuff lets angry confused guys gain a sense of control. Take that away and the same anger and need for control will still exist, they'll just express it in other ways, like shooting up a school. Idk why people assume if you take TRP away all the guys will just automatically switch to whatever coping method women prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:48 AM
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Avoid antisocial behavior, Learn social skills and be liked by your peers, Lift If only there was some sort of website with a collection of books and years of discussion on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:26 AM
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Nah mid-late 20s girls are still down. You just have to have your game right. Plus when get to late 20s those girls you're talking about will be looking at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:19 AM
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The problem is it's really not dependant on how much effort you put into the relationship. As long as there are men in this world with features you don't have, a cheater's gonna cheat. In spite of women always shifting the blame to men, the real reason most people cheat is they want variety. All you can really do is vet the woman rigorously and protect your assets just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:17 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:44 PM
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No, I didn't — the other commenter did. Okay. The user whose argument you're defending. Can you respond to the rest of the post you were arguing against now? In which universe? FDS is the misandric counterpart of women-hating echo chambers. For reference, it posts shit along the lines of "liking BDSM is being a slave to the patriarchy" — which shames women (like me) who actually enjoy that stuff. That's not vetting, that's shaming. And yes, it should be banned. The current universe we exist in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:44 PM
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As a low n-count woman that's been off the dating market for quite a while now, I wouldn't be. Don't judge all women through the narrow lens of the crappy women you date/hate. I don't assume women who suck dick are crappy. You may be surprised to find out I actually enjoy a good dick suck, and appreciate women who do that for me. Also if your N-Count is more than 0 you could end up on the site. On that "Are we dating the same guy" site there is no minimum number of requests before you can go onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:06 PM
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It's almost all body language tells that imply something "uncool." If you read The Charisma Myth it's basically a dictionary of icks and how to avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:57 PM
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and some people eat with the goal of not feeling anxious due to hunger in the future, while others just enjoy the act of eating. My point is for men it's not "either I only want sex, or a relationship." The vast majority of grown men want sex AND a loving family. Not one or the other. If someone only wants sex they won't enter a real relationship. If someone gets married and doesn't want sex it's because they're not attracted to/don't feel like putting up with their spouse. Not because they just…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:42 AM
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Is sex a byproduct of you seeking a relationship/family or is relationship/family a byproduct of you seeking sex. Both. This is like asking "is eating food a byproduct of being hungry, or is being hungry a byproduct of not eating food?" Interesting proposition tho. Does the "no sex" option also mean I never have to do anything that makes her feel sexy and wanted (validating her emotions etc), and she'll continue to be an excellent wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:50 AM
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Even if you were on the site? Why didn't you respond to TheRedPill part? If a site like that existed, it would face a similar fate. Girls would get mad, prop up the worst 2% as the whole thing, and get it shut down. We've already seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:54 PM
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It's nice that you don't think there's an issue with it, and you're taking a reasonable position, but you know damn well most women would be against having their sexual history plastered on the internet. Women don't even like being transparent about body count to their partners. There's literally no way that site wouldn't be immediately taken down for sexual harassment and slut shaming. Also TheRedPill being quarantined etc while fds is just fine already disproves your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:47 PM
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Women only care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:51 PM
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Women respect you if you validate all of their opinions. All women won't lose respect if you show real unfiltered weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:47 PM
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FDS or groups like Are We Dating the Same Guy, they get heavily criticized by men. Because women love TheRedPill and if "Did she blow you too, bro?" existed I'm sure girls would hurry to invite all the men they know in their life, right? Really? Doing what that should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:45 PM
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Emotional investment and attention goes both ways there's no unbalance on this matter. If she's using your attention then you're using hers About ressources, it's quite easy to avoid , dont simp until she's into you. Men using their status and money to pull women cant complain when they attract shallow goldiggers, cant complain about the consequences of something someone chooses. I can say the same with a woman who'd only talk about sex sending nudes and hypersexualizing herself, she'll obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:49 AM
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I don't think low lives bagging trailer trash have good listening skills either usually. Ok, you walked your argument back. It's still wrong so i'll address your new point: You don't think any very successful men are valued for listening to, understanding, and validating their partners emotions? (even though thatcs literally the entire point of the topic) Keep in mind op defined successful men as "men with disposable income"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:15 AM
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You think every man on earth who gets laid has the same shit going on as Leonardo Decaprio?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:57 AM
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I dont get your point You dont want a woman so entitled that she demands you to pay for her shit on the first date. You dont want to have her interested in your status or money either yes so you should remain as discrete as possible about it too, especially of you're wealthy. You want her to be attracted to you physically and emotionally not her to be interested in your ressources that's recipe for failure Exactly. My point is women can pretend to be attracted physically and emotionally to a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:41 AM
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1/ Dont offer to pay for a stranger ? It's the modern era there's no reason for you to not split the bill on a first date. Especially if this situation scares you Can I also withhold attention or status? That's what guys do by stopping at sex. Unless you want to deconstruct the other 2/3rd of the argument you're proving my point. 2/ having a fwb while looking for a partner ? That's the concept of fwb, it's not a relationship of course she's gonna be opened to meet new men and of course she wont …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:02 AM
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You'll get it one day 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:42 AM
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No. And most women wouldn't knowingly marry a man that used to regularly suck dick on camera for money either. She can find an equally crazy cage fighter to have a toxic relationship with. I'n not tying all my assets to a girl like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:09 AM
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What are you trying to learn from this question? A man being broke or rich says nothing about his emotional awareness. Same with women. When i was broke as fuck with a lame job I was still a great listener and women liked that. Now I have money and a cool job a women still like my listening skills. If anything, it feels like they care about my listening skills less now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:06 AM
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As a man , when a woman is interested in me i know it comes from genuine reasons, i do not need to be cautious about being tricked or manipulated simply because she doesnt have to i know she chose me over multiple other men This isn't true at all. There are plenty of women who will say yes to a date with a guy they aren't sexually attracted to because they want free shit, whether it be food, attention, or status. There's also women that continue fucking her fwb(s) while other guys are seriously …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:53 AM
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Yeah, and the reason guys who send dick picks get ghosted is because women are intimidated by the pure sexual masculine energy. Women who don't like dick pics are just insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:53 AM
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Lemme get the statistics where they asked the cops how often they let women aggressors off the hook and told the dude to man up, 1 sec.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:42 AM
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It bothers me about as much as toxic women running around bothers the average feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:59 AM
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hearing their emotions lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:26 PM
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Yup. There's no such thing as "the friend zone", she's just not into you and probably never will be. No idea how it works for men but I guess it's the same, only "he doesn't have feelings for you and probably never will". Pretty much the same thing except guys are guys, so he'll probably have sex with the friend. Same thing overall though. Getting involved with someone you know is more emotionally attached than you are, taking what you want from the relationship, and repeatedly denying what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:32 AM
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well I never saw him do anything, he’s always been so kind to me Maybe his friends and family who are more invested in him than you. (who also have 0 authority) Same thing happens with women. Cops however are happy to arrest a man in a domestic violence situation, whether he actually did anything or not. Look up "police" on the bpdlovedones sub or narc abuse sub and tell me how often you see women getting cops called on them for fake abuse vs. men. Even once it's determined the woman is the aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:07 AM
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lol broke dudes definitely aren't the people dealing with, nor complaining about gold diggers your title is correct though. I don't think anyone disagrees. most guys would be fine in that scenario provided he has just as much access to her body as she does to his money. guess who tries to pull away their end the deal in a relationship tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:54 AM
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It's perfectly conceivable for "Not sexually active" women to be open to casual sex. Let's also consider the women who are in a relationship on paper but have "emotionally checked out," the ones that put a label on the relationship without the guys consent because they've had sex x amount of times etc. All this study proves is 9% of women are openly fucking around and proud of it, which sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:03 AM
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I'm not telling you what you do or don't like. I'm restating your standpoint. Did you make this topic because you think men hating open relationships is great? Didn't think so. The fact that you won't even stand by the main point of your topic lets me know, you know it's bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:25 AM
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They have, you just don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:17 AM
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"I really don't care" is a woman's way of saying "I hate it."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:00 AM
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I mean, if you're equal, what exactly is being reversed...? Your life sounds nice, but what you're describing and what OP are describing aren't the same thing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:11 AM
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Again, then you don't specifically want role reversal. It sounds like you just don't want to be too dependent on your partner, or want kids. (which makes sense, it's very hard to raise kids without heavily depending on your partner) Wanting role reversal would mean you not only accept, but desire having a meek submissive man. What does "accepting you for you" entail, exactly? What does a man who accepts you do? How about the one that doesn't? If you can, try answering without using the phrase "H…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:50 AM
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If you don't care, then you don't want role reversal in a relationship. You accept it. Those are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:22 AM
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Are you unhappy in relationships where men make more money, and aren't mostly dependent on you? Either way, I don't think masculinity inherently means being strong and independent. Just like femininity doesn't inherently mean being weak and dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:14 AM
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If my wife looked like any of these women in her 40s after a couple of kids I'd be fine with it. If she looked like that in her 20s, hell no. She gon get big.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:09 AM
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For men, safety & comfort. For women, power & security. Both from trauma or an emotionally stunted childhood. One of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:00 AM
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In my short 23 years I have never seen a good explanation for this double-bind that wouldn't sound misogynistic. I guess maybe "she never liked you to begin with," which, alright, cool? Yeah. It's not like that makes it any better. With that in mind it's not hard to figure out why most guys default to just ignoring most of the stuff girls complain about. If you're going to be the villain either way you might as well keep your dignity. Women are often seen as more emotionally intelligent/mature b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:46 AM
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Same, funny isn't it? If you don't take everything seriously, you're ignoring her feelings and deserve to be dumped. If you do take everything seriously, you're a doormat and deserve to be walked on, then dumped. It's actually mind boggling that not a single woman within the 340 some comments has admitted that women complain about dumb shit sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:42 PM
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It's because all the men who won were toothless bums with gambling problems being supported by a hardworking breadwinning mom. The women lottery winners were beautiful cinderella maidens cleaning toilets and being ignored by their abusive husbands who finally broke free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:22 PM
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And this is the real danger that women don't get. Even worse when she realizes later she was being stupid, but since you enabled it now you've set the precedent that "I'll put up with you being stupid and ruining our night, because I love you." Instant loss of respect. Instant entitlement to use you as an emotional punching bag. Every argument is basically "women never have dumb complaints in a relationship, and if they do, dump her, since you think you're so right."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:13 PM
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Don't understand what point you're trying to make, but I assume it's facetious because of the heart. I hope you learn to appreciate your blessings. It's okay to not be the victim sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:40 AM
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Sure it's annoying. Most guys WISH the biggest problem they had were women giving shitty compliments. And yes, there will always be more. How sad, an endless supply of chances but a certain percentage of them send you annoying texts. You have my deepest condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:36 AM
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Literally just block the men who send you gross messages. Guys have to get over girls saying rude shit too us too. Boo hoo. And there is nothing "dangerous" about some bored dude you'll never meet sending you "hey bby nice tits, wanna have sex?" I promise, he can't hurt you through the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:45 AM
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The 6 in IQ it's not even close. More important than either of those is emotional intelligence. Being good at studying engineering says literally nothing about how good of a partner a woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:43 AM
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"You want women to contribute more to the relationship? Must be gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:43 PM
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Question for guys: Does this also bother you to the degree that it disqualifies a girl from a LTR with you? If I know she regularly hangs out with dudes alone I won't take her seriously, no. Anything friendly I wanna do I can do with my boys. Any girly shit I want to do I can do with my girlfriend. The fuck do I need some other chick to come over to my place and cook eggs for? And keeping contact with past sexual partners when you're with someone else is just disrespectful. If you haven't told y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:48 AM
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lmao all the women here "I've never seen a hot woman be with a meeker, but stable guy for control! never! can't happen no way!!" Yet every guy in a relationship where the girl is >5 years younger is attempting to be the puppet master. Funny how guys are the only sex with insecure people who want to control their partner 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:39 AM
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Because emotionally cheating, then breaking up is good enough for most women, and they get to pretend they didn't cheat. Guys do it too I'm sure, but less because we don't get much validation from some chick listening to us complain about our girlfriend. Ask those same women who never cheated "Have you ever confided private issues about your partner with other men during a relationship, then had sex with those same men after breaking up?" I bet the numbers would be way fucking closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:32 AM
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Nah, you misunderstood my post. Look at the phrase "keep playing games" again and rethink what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:02 PM
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Guys with options, and women with game know this. Unfortunately women with trash game would have to acknowledge that their game is trash, so instead it's "guys either want a virgin or a whore, no in between (unless they put up with my entitled behavior)"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:24 AM
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Right, they act like agreeing to stop fucking other people is some massive commitment lol. It's not that serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:05 AM
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I stop looking at women as a serious option after 3 dates no sex. We can be friends tho. A) Woman who is cool to be around, and wants to have sex with me B) Woman who is cool to be around but acts uncomfortable about sex with me Which is a better investment of my dating time? Not that hard to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:02 AM
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If they leave, after all the effort, it is because either she is flaky, giving contradictory messages, being irrational, being entitled, etc. This is how every "ONS" I've had ended up playing out. Asked them out a 2nd time and they want to keep playing games "tee hee, i don't know my schedule. message me next week!" That's cool, got sex already, next. Def happens more than women want to admit for sure. Edit: except for one girl that didn't shave anything, and waited to reveal that after we got u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:42 AM
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I'm agreeing with you bro, re-read my last post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 02:06 AM
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They proved your point several times over, funnily enough. Not only should men only spaces not exist, if they do they are automatically hostile to women. I'd bet money if you squashed that point, the next argument would be "so are you gay???" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:58 AM
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When did I say those aren't skills that require learning? I said most women don't do them in a relationship for their men until marriage, and even then complain about it and expect the man to contribute. Also men have to learn and do the same shit. Let's take the the "best" comment and break it down. For women it's the expectation to cook, clean, be the main parent doing all the nasty side of childcaring and various forms of managing and micromanaging the household, i.e. remembering his mother's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:14 AM
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The funny thing is, OPs entire list is stuff men are expected to do from the get go. The stuff women in this topic are saying they are expected to do doesn't happen until marriage and/or childbirth. Which doesn't happen in most relationships. Even then, women commonly dump guys for not splitting chores, childrearing etc, yet men don't expect women to split half of the initiative taking, fixing things etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:21 PM
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Yeah, she's just a 5 who's definitely getting a 50/50 split on the bill. If I see she's a good boss that's def points though. Good relationship material multiplier. Still a 5 tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:46 PM
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So if he never asked the child, you'de be cool knowingly leaving a pedo around your kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:24 AM
7

"If you aren't cool with leaving your door unlocked around a kleptomaniac, you're insecure about your home"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:20 AM
2

Can Jim truly love Meghan 100% with a Susan in his past? Loving someone doesn't require you to find everyone else repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:05 AM
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My mother's a creative, inspiring, beautiful woman. Some of my favorite things in the world I owe to her. She always had music playing, encouraged me to dream, try new things, and work hard. She always busted her ass working and kept me in a safe environment. She did the best that she could, but she was not equipped to do the job of a father and mother at home. She was overprotective but put way too much emotional responsibility on me. I ended up becoming the surrogate father of the house and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:46 PM
1

Good for you. This topic has nothing to do with you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:29 AM
1

That doesn’t make any sense. Even after 3-4 dates you are basically strangers. Idk why men always assume that if the woman is not having sex with them, she is doing it with other guys. When did I say that? To answer your question though, men assume this because women do it then lie about it. Men didn't come out of their mom's womb distrusting women. In reality some women tend to get the sense of your personality, possible future etc. Besides some people might get attached after sex, and if the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:28 AM
0

The average is 7 in a lifetime. That's like 2 per decade if you start as an adult. I think most of those people meet friends and family, yes. lmao we all know that number is bs. The fact that you pulled it out to try to justify you point proves you know how silly that sounds. Maybe you're REALLY open with your parents, or you wait a REALLY long time to have sex, but acting like it's normal for adults to bring every single person, or even the majority of people they've fucked home to mom is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:48 AM
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Okay? So you're no better than I was and you're looking at it like a game then lol I'm sure you guys have a wonderful relationship. I don't know how soon he wanted to have sex, you'de have to ask him that. I'm just saying if you both wanted to have sex and knew it, but you deliberately made him wait, you played it like a game and treated him like a contestant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:33 AM
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I win, and it's not even close. Weird thing to say if it's not a competition in your eyes. but for you I'm just thinking your odds are pretty poor treating it like competition. I had plenty of L's and plenty of W's. I don't consider it a competition anymore because I don't think about sex as a thing that should be deliberately pursued or withheld. You think you aren't playing a game, but you're just playing a game where the only way to win is to trick you into thinking I'm not playing, while doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:25 AM
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I win, and it's not even close. It's not a control thing hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:49 AM
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It feels forced to cover all of that over 3 hours, like a job interview. Anyone who purposely tries to force intimacy is at least equally manipulative to someone who "purposely" tries to wait. Doesn't feel forced if the guy knows what he's doing. and Yes, it is manipulation in response to manipulation. That is true. I definitely met my husband's family and friends before we had sex. Your idea of what usually happens is way different from mine. Do you honestly think, in 2023, people usually intro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:48 AM
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Guys who just want sex don't want to spend time finding a girlfriend. They just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:45 AM
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You mean no sex before marriage? Yeah, I think most relationships would be better. Dudes would walk away from annoying chicks way faster and women would value their men more. Did you think that was a gotcha? lmao Unless you mean "I get to fuck around then make rules about sex after" in that case, nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:44 AM
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Every person who has ever ended up in an abusive long term relationship disagrees with you. People can hide shit for a long time. That's why you don't really know them until you see them in a situation where they don't have a chance to hide it. IE: meeting friends and family, crises etc. A couple of dates and saying "no sex...yet" is not the insurmountable obstacle you think it is, especially to manipulative people. It's just annoying to genuine people. Some people don't even show their true col…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:38 AM
1

That's confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:32 AM
1

They understand, they just take it for granted. If you had women trying to throw money and pussy at you since before you were even legally able to say yes, you wouldn't think it was special either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:57 AM
1

What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:40 AM
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Those are all topics that can be covered in the first date. 1 date is "spending time" with a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:34 AM
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You could try asking instead of assuming lol Those are all topics that can be covered in one 3 hour date. Dudes that just want sex know how to present that stuff in the most attractive way possible. You don't really know until you're actually introduced to friends/family, deal with conflict together etc. Usually all that stuff comes way after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:33 AM
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That's fair. I think there's a clear difference between the logistics not working out and deliberately saying "I want to have sex, he wants to have sex, but I'm not going to because I want him to [x]." The former is what it is, the latter is instant fuck-only imo imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:25 AM
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It's possible, even common to like a woman, enjoy her company, want to have sex with her and still know she won't make a good girlfriend. Women do the same thing between relationships. Also plenty of women chase dudes that don't treat her very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:20 AM
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You implied a man with options won't put up with waiting for sex, but you made your man wait for sex and he had options. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:23 AM
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and if you want to avoid self-reflection, you do you 😂 aaaaaand now you're just avoiding the inconsistencies I pointed out and repeating a point I already responded to, instead of the actual response to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:19 AM
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Lol why are you getting defensive? I never said anything about your relationship status or what kind of man you're with. You implied a man with options won't put up with waiting for sex, but you made your man wait for sex and he had options. Which is it? Most guys looking for sex that don’t have other options will invest time and money into swaying the mind of a girl that didn’t want to initially hook up. I know. My point is guys that do have options will too. I know because I did, and know plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:09 AM
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How do you define "knowing" a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:03 AM
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It sounds like you think the only men that would put up with you have no other options. A guy with options can still enjoy those options while taking you on a couple extra dates. Most guys just looking for sex think this way. Just letting you know your strat is less foolproof than you think. You can either use the info or lose it. No skin off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:57 AM
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Y'all have "friends" in your phone that have been have been waiting years for a chance to fuck, but you think a bored guy won't wait a couple of weeks for some pussy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:51 AM
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Nah, I was that guy in the past and once I realized what was happening I would consider "I won't let you pump and dump me" as a challenge. I'd smash and dash just to win/prove a point. Most attractive guys are competitive. Now that I'm looking for a long term relationship I consider purposefully delayed sex a sign that she values control over intimacy and move on. I've never cut off a girl who had sex with me on the first date. Usually it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:40 AM
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You think women taking a pregnancy test every couple of months is more wild than government mandated celibacy? Paying 15 bucks and peeing on a stick 6 times a year isn't that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:14 AM
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As someone pro-financial-choice: If both parents are paying an equal percentage, this is perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:10 AM
1

No, of course not. But what if she wants to keep the baby? Then she can keep the baby and figure it out. My point was that you left the most reasonable and responsible option off the list. For some women, certainly not all. And it’s certainly not fair for those children who suffer relative to other children due to their father’s not wanting to take responsibility for the results of their actions. Yup, I know that's your stance. That's why I asked these two questions: If a woman left a man with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:54 AM
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That's not what op said tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:47 PM
2

Sounds like a 3 that needs a reality check to me. I'm sure gamer Quasimodo would be happy to make an honest woman out of the mid chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:40 PM
1

A guy saying "I don't want to pay for the baby" and the woman choosing to get an abortion isn't "Forced abortion." Also it is completely realistic for a single mother to provide for 1 child by herself in 2023. If a woman left a man with their baby would you say his only options are killing the baby, giving it away, getting free money from the government, or living in poverty? Why is he able to work hard and make shit happen but a woman can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:45 PM
1

You think a man getting his nut sack cut open, having a doctor cut his tubes, then get sewn back up in procedure that commonly leads to long term complications is "making reasonable steps" to prove he doesn't want a baby. I think a woman wearing a potato sack is taking reasonable steps to prove she doesn't want sexual attention. I keep coming back to it because you aren't telling me the difference other than just saying you don't like the one that's unpleasant for women. Both situations are sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:29 PM
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We aren't talking about proven harassment, we're talking about the intent of women who dressed provocatively. Same way we aren't talking men who busted in a girl said "yes! baby time!" then changed their mind, but the intent of any man who has sex. It also shouldn't matter if a man had surgery or not. You don't have the right to hold other people financially responsible for choice a made solely at your discretion (the choice being not taking any contraceptives after sex, and not doing an abortio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:10 PM
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If the guy doesn't want a baby why does he need to prove it with surgery? It sounds like you're arguing not doing everything to curb a negative outcome means the outcome is laid solely on the victim. Do you think women who get cat-called and sexually harassed at work should have to prove to HR they aren't wearing form-fitting clothes, showing cleavage etc before they get taken seriously? Y'know to prove how serious she is about not wanting to get sexually harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:07 PM
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The only counter-argument you're going to hear is "yeah well if he didn't want the baby he shouldn't have had sex, since there's always a chance." The obvious response to that is "if the girl doesn't want to be solely financially responsible for a baby, she shouldn't proceed without the guys agreement" Finally the follow-up is some version of "nuh-uh" or "I don't get it" or "my choices are not my responsibility" run through a virtue signal filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:56 PM
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☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:56 AM
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You don't get it indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:48 AM
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Every guy knows better pics gets more matches, they just don't want to do it. Every girl knows investing in a serious man will get her a relationship and yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:46 AM
4

Thanks for the admission. Hopefully you find a book that cures your condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:41 AM
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Imagine telling a beautiful, gracious, kind woman with an amazing body that the reason why she constantly gets pump and dumped is because she has a bad haircut and weird socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:55 AM
2

What's the issue they all have? It sounds like they found out they value commited sex over hookups. That's not negative baggage, and not what guys are worried about ex hoes bringing to the table. Average dudes figure out the same by fucking a bunch of average chicks. idk why you told me i cant have hot women though you hurt my feelings 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:26 AM
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Better than committing to someone who was bored from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:58 AM
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From someone who spent some time on the wrong side of the tracks too, I totally agree. When people with bad intentions stop stealing well meaning peoples' words, maybe dating will be a little more fair on both sides. Unfortunately here we are lol. Best of luck w the baby btw
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:39 AM
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Could be for sure. They could also be writing off a woman who's blown up all her past relationships by cheating when shit got slightly uncomfortable, and who values emotional turbulence over security. You've put in the work to fix a negative pattern, and it shows. A LOT of single women don't but want to be treated like they did because they don't like the consequences. That's why guys are weary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:28 AM
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Well, I think there's an area between virginity and "promiscuity and SA to work through trauma." Also, i legit think it's great that you figured out a healthy way to cope with your past issues, no matter how many mistakes made along the way. I just think calling it a double standard when you know you'de make the same value judgement is kinda silly. Unfortunately there's lots of women who present themselves the same way you do, but didn't actually put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:13 AM
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Your husbands judgement notwithstanding, would you recommend other younger women take the same path as you? (working out trauma with drugs and sex) Also, how would you feel about your daughter dating a man that's doing the same, while she's sober and working a regular job?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:06 AM
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Yeah. That's why every guy is willing to have sex with a woman like that but not pursue a real LTR. I'd say it's a bigger double standard that you get to make a decision based off of your experience but men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:01 AM
1

"Would you rather be responsible for the emotions of someone who is eternally dissatisfied but hot, or who is happy with what they've got but ok looking" That's the actual question you're asking. Not worth the stress dealing with a girl who requires attention from lots of dudes. I can't be multiple dicks. Most women wouldn't want to marry a guy who isn't satisfied unless he's having an ffm threesome either. Idk why this is the "gotcha" y'all latch on to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:51 AM
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Because men don't collect negative emotional baggage from fucking lots of hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:46 AM
1

I don't ask her to waste her time on pointless shit, that's for sure 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:52 AM
2

Unless all those cars were filled with stuff and there were no passengers, you didn't save them any time by driving the truck. You prob shaved off 5 minutes by carrying a couple <2 pound boxes and holding a door tho. Though if you werent there theyd probably have just stacked them and carried them out in the same amount of time anyway. 🤐 I'm sure women have been asked to be around when a move is happening. It's just not for the reason you think. But hey, he made you feel good about yourself. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:50 AM
1

When did I say women can't drive? Did you have more cars than men during this massive move? Also, how do you "manage boxes" for someone else's move? Idk why you think not bothering friends with unnecessary stuff is shameful. You should value your friends' time more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:21 AM
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I have a drivers license and a doorstop, neither of those things would be helpful from the women in my life. I don't have the strength of 2 men though. Either you were helping a man who can't drive or he just wanted you to see him picking up heavy stuff (and didn't want you to be bored so he gave you the bs duty of propping open a door). Probably both. Cute sneak diss though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:12 AM
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Because women are getting married and popping out kids later. You're study proves women are marrying at a later age, not that they're dating younger men, nor that their years spent "finding themselves" before they get married are spent with men without an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:58 AM
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Men do not ask women to help them move true women don't defend men they dont know when other women badmouth them (unless they dislike the woman already) men don't say this at all, maybe women do to other women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:50 AM
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Never said there weren't. Are you self aware enough to realize you defended a statement I didn't oppose, and then called me defensive? Certainly funny, i'll give you that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:58 PM
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2 basic requirements down 8 more to go! Any studies about how self-aware and funny women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:47 PM
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And with the rise of discussion around mental health, women seek men who are emotional providers. Are you emotionally mature? Will you actually listen when we speak? Are you an engaging conversationalist? Are you funny? Do you have a hobby or passion outside of work? Have you processed your trauma in order to avoid dumping it on me? Are you self-aware? Do you love children and will be a good father (mother) to my kids? Will you treat me as an equal? Are you loyal? Men have jobs too and most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:33 PM
1

I'll give it a read. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:49 PM
2

It looks new, that title is very relavent to me. Why might you biased?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:44 PM
2

I've understood the idea that getting people to help you makes them treat you better in the long run, but I've never actually seen it broken down like this. Dope post. Any books etc that contain similar jewels?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:29 AM
2

I'd consider a girl who licked some puss a virgin. I'd consider a dude who sucked his homies dick not a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:06 AM
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The funny thing is I've had several women that did all the things you listed the insecure guys doing. One who did them all! I bet every guy here has had an ex that's done at least half of those, if not more. makes his girlfriend feel bad when expressing needs or to gaslight her into thinking she's the problem This ones my favorite. When a guy says "babe, I'd like to have more sex" the answer is always "you're right, I have been cold recently. I'll suck your dick an extra 2 nights a week, you jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:40 AM
1

Still the same point. As in my original post: Men want a connection too. We're just willing to put up with less because we desire sex more. You're getting confused because you're arguing against points I'm not making. You first gotta demonstrate that you’re one of the cooler dudes in the room. Then you show her that your sense of humor aligns with hers. Then you make some moves, usually some light touching slowly escalating into making out. Which part of this is the all important, completely nes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:31 AM
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Yes, becoming fwb requires becoming friends obviously, it's literally in the title of the relationship lmao. You keep using commited long term relationships (in this case non-exclusive) to argue against how commonplace casual sex is, which is obviously what I'm talking about. The "i fucked him but it doesn't count"s. You think those never happen? Perhaps every girl that's had casual sex once with a guy and never again is just conveniently sex starved? Or maybe it's only desperation? Or perhaps i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 12:47 AM
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Never said women can't be deprived of sex in a commited relationship. That's an entirely different conversation. If connection is so important, how do you explain the phenomenon of "I'll let him fuck me first date, but he's not boyfriend material"? "Connection" is a vague term which makes this conversation unnecessarily difficult, but acting like women can't just as easily enjoy just fucking a hot dude because he's hot regardless of any "connection" they claim to have is being disingenuous. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:15 AM
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Men want a connection too. No guy will tell you he doesn't prefer sex with a fun girl he enjoys spending time with over a boring chick who can't relate. We're just willing to put up with less because we desire sex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:12 AM
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How do you think we differ in what we desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:47 AM
2

So you want us to pretend we don’t like sex to protect the feelings of men who aren’t having it? OPs title: "It's bad for men's mental health to tell them that women like sex as much as them"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:34 AM
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Notice how you silently took away one of the critcisms (looking to disqualify) Woman would absolutely call a man shallow for dumping an otherwise good woman solely because someone else has nicer tits and ass. A woman assuming (not confirming) a man has nothing going on because he has a flexible schedule is her making an incorrect judgement based on info she doesn't know. A closer equivalent would be "she's in a big sweater, therefore she must have no tits, therefore she must be a loser." I'd cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:31 AM
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Yes, and if you arrive to conclusions about "the best you can get" off of arbitrary stuff like "he said he can make time for me on friday or saturday" that makes you a shallow hollow selfish woman who is looking to disqualify. I'm not arguing against female nature. i'm saying I agree your friend is dumb and her girl game sucks ass. Men evolved to break shit that makes us angry. That doesn't mean the guy who beats up his nagging wife isn't stupid cruel and violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:37 PM
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Because she's assuming he can't possibly have a flexible schedule, and since he has no commitments on his days off, he has no options either. "He can make time for me? Must be a loser" isn't exactly giving the benefit of the doubt. Says more about her tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:39 PM
1

Actually, if he didn't have a fiance that ring would have cost $0
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:37 AM
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I don't think the opposite of a hoe is a chaste woman. Chaste women can have shitty coping methods too. and hoes definitely don't "just leave " lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:03 PM
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I ltr'd a girl like this. When I was up the relationship was fantastic. Easily the best relationship pf my life up to that point. Then she immediately cheated on me with one(or more?) of the (many) men from her past when I got laid off from work for like 2 months. Several were waiting for me to fuck up and the barrier of entry was already demonstratably low. Unless they've been to therapy and worked through why they need to cope with their problems by getting sexual attention from multiple men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:38 AM
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True. But "the average male who put in the self development time building himself up to realistically attainable looks status and game after some work, aging, and experience" doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well. I was a dork who had to pay to lose my virginity at 21. I had it happen a couple times in my late 20s. Doesn't take away from the fact that the chads have been having it happen on the regular since they were like 14 from normal girls. Just saying crazy girls (or girls trying to use…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:58 AM
1

The average male version of this is hooking up with a cheating wife, or a love bombing BPD girl. You'll run into a couple by the time you're 30 if you haven't already. Usually they're hot as hell too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:07 AM
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Bro thank you so much for writing all that out. I understood that a lot of that shit mattered but I never actually understood why, which was definitely hindering my progress. If you don't mind helping me a little more, I'm good with touch, logistics, and most of the basics. The biggest areas I'm trying to work are Instead of giving evasive answers, in an attempt to be "mysterious", you give unpredictable answers. Evasive answers make her think you're being shady. How do you cultivate this skill?…
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