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Yeah, the problem is you don't want the RESPONSIBILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, and CONSEQUENCES that goes with having that agency and freedom. Ya'll want to be given choices and freedoms that men have, but you want someone else to bear all the hardships and burdens of facilitating those freedoms, and fix everything for you when you make (often egregiously) bad decisions of your own autonomous free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:01 PM
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You're not actually getting them off with penetration, you're masturbating them externally by grinding on their clitoral area with your pubic bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:09 PM
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"Orgasm gap is real, for a man it's easy to get off with simple penetration." So is the value of just being "gotten off" in-and-of-itself by a partner for each sex-- in the opposite direction. Men getting off more easily/often makes it so getting off in-and-of-itself doesn't matter as much... I have a hand for masturbation, don't need a woman... and the hand is WAY cheaper and less hassle than the BS women expect me to put up with that they don't, won't, or can't reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:08 PM
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Well, for starters, they avoid the green-card issue by moving to their country permanently because their culture made them what he wants.... Makes no sense to bring them back to the culture here that will turn them into the women PPB's are trying to get away from in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:10 PM
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You mean like the record number of people that left liberal-mecca shithole California, or all the people bailing out of New York at a higher rate proportionally than any other state in the country? Where are they going? Oh yeah, largely places like Texas and Florida.... And what was the reasons they gave for moving? High crime rates and excessive cost-of-living.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:35 AM
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Agreed, which is all a biproduct of modern women's excessive expectations for relationships/families. This exact thing is what leads to varying degrees of Hikikomori-like behavior (i.e. outright reclusiveness/withdrawl from society) as well as leaning towards an "Herbivore man" state of mind (i.e. men who still engage in society while being reluctant/resistant to date/marry/have families because it's potentially a literal death-sentence).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:08 AM
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What I was aware of was China having a population cap and was deleting women for the longest time, right? You understand replacement-status of birth-rate is relative to just the women present in a given society, regardless of how many female babies were killed due to familial lines or whatever, right? You need 2 babies per LIVING woman to replace the father and the mother to keep your society running, or even in your own man-hating viewpoint, you need 2 babies per woman to have a reasonable chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:52 AM
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I'm basing this on research done back in the 80's and 90's where OVER-population was a concern (due to resource consumption), and their findings were that if you "empower women" they have fewer children-- which was the result they were seeking at the time... but they went too far with it. That conclusion stands to reason in a number of ways... for ex: seeking careers means women delay having children, which leaves less time later on resulting in fewer or no children before their fertility window…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:47 AM
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People that wants kids will still have them, the difference is going to be your not going to force people that don’t want kids to have them, and you won’t have kids growing up in poverty Actually, they'll all be living in poverty because as your population crashes (i.e. isn't being replaced as they age and die out), so does your economic structure as well as your basic insfrastructure (shipping, electricity, communications, etc.).... especially when those things depend heavily on inefficient tax…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:53 PM
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Uh huh, cuz liberal-dominated metropolitan areas are doing just fantastic these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:30 PM
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Sooooo... a flat 2.oo% female unemployement rate is a lot? Cuz that's what it was in Japan as of Dec 2023.... (For reference, it's 3.5% in the US as of Jan 2024).... seems like they're finding work just fine. You're so blind I can't even come up with something appropriate to compare it to...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:28 PM
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Low birth rates are most significantly caused by female empowerment, which Japan is extremely high on... and the younger generations are experiencing the demographic effects of that-- resulting in them not having enough kids to replace the more traditional generations. Long story short, their native citizenry is going extinct because current and future generations aren't having enough kids to replace the now disproportionately larger older ("traditional") portion of their population that has 'ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:13 AM
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I think it’s doing just fine, the birth rates are lowering to something we should have had all along, What you fail to understand is that sub-replacement birthrate creates an exponential population decline that DOESN'T STOP when you hit some magical critical population number... it just keeps going DOWN until your culture's population goes at best dies out completely, but more likely, it'll experience a socio-economic crash and fall into dystopia, or another culture with a surplus birthrate conq…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:54 AM
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The trauma is caused by repeatedly forming and breaking bonds with men.... not just by being with a man period. The older she gets while still being single, the more likely she is to have done the former.... cuz if she wasn't trash herself, and actually attracted, and then chose a decent man after doing so, she wouldn't be single. Getting with a decent man who's going to actually put effort into a committed, long-term, mutually beneficial relationship doesn't cause trauma... in all likelihood it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:54 AM
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No, we really do coddle kids far too much nowadays... that's why they act so dang stupid and entitled these days for so far into their lives... My Dad and his first wife (who he lost to cancer after 20+ years of marriage) already had a stable marriage and were going on their 3rd kid by that age (yes, they started in high-school), and my oldest living sister was running a household for a family of 6 when she was still in Highschool after he mother died. My dad was married for over 50 total years …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:43 PM
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22 year old girls ARE kids. Let alone look like them. Does that mean we should raise the voting age? 30s. And they usually last until 40s. Hot women in their 20s aren't taken seriously and don't have the sophistication to be a bombshell. In 2023, the women in their 30's and 40's don't have the sophistication for it either... many of them never matured beyond high-school....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:23 PM
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That's why fertility statues in every culture was an older woman with a big belly and saggy tits. Not sexy. But fertile. That's the most gratuitously ignorant thing I've heard in a long time....Those statues represented pregnant bellies and breasts full of milk, genius.... at best you could argue that it represented an abundance of otherwise scarce food sources among primitive, subsistence-level civilizations.... but no, we now know that morbidly obese women not only have a harder time conceivin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:15 PM
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Being human is baggage. We all have baggage. LOL, women don't deal with men's baggage, they just pile theirs on top of ours and expect us to "man up" and deal with that baggage on top of our own... They just don't call their baggage "baggage"... instead they try to hamster it away and call it things like "knowing her worth"... and then they shame us if we "can't handle a strong woman" (read: refuse to put up with a 40-year old bratty teenager who's still rebelling against her father) because we …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:55 AM
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Maybe for temporary entertainment purposes.... definitely not for long-term commitments they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:09 AM
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The 30 year old he started dating at 25 and built a meaningful life with an established, mutually beneficial relationship over those 5 years is certainly not the same as getting involved with a woman who's accumulated 5 more years of trauma from other men prior to even meeting her and will very likely punish him for the behavior of her past failed relationships/bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:06 AM
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They're not seeking a power dynamic... they're seeking women that aren't permanently psychologically/emotionally damaged, often as a result of her own bad decisions. The reason you think it's a power dynamic is because you don't want to recognize that men are expected to pile a woman's baggage from past trauma on top of his own (that then doesn't get taken care of, and she abandon's him when he breaks, because she's broken herself) while vice-versa isn't true.... and the older she gets, the bigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:28 AM
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Says the woman who complains about only ever getting used for sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:32 AM
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Don't you mean Grinder? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:17 AM
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That's because tinder is a hookup app, not a relationship-finding app. This has been a well-known thing for what, at least a decade now? Also, INB4 "it's more likely that women are swiping-left on the guys that would actually be "nice" to them... rather than they don't exist"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:15 AM
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Ok, let's go the complete opposite direction and take sex completely off the table as something the typical modern woman can offer a guy up front. What else ya got? Seriously, what else does the average modern woman offer that a relationship minded guy is actually interested in and doesn't result in a hidden double-standard/pyrrhic victory situation? ---Most of modern women's domestic knowledge/skills are non-existent to terrible, and that's if they don't consider the "traditional gender roles f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:11 AM
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Women need to stop conflating men who are 3 steps above them as the only acceptable options. If she can't do this, she deserves ZERO sympathy from anyone. Her "orbiters" are generally her reasonable long-term relationship options. If a woman is only getting attention from creepy guys off tinder, then maybe she needs to reconsider whether or not she's creepy herself, or at the very least that she's not as desirable as she thinks. Sorry, a woman who's an overall 5 isn't going to land exclusive com…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:55 AM
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And since most men are weak and clueless today, I can’t even fault women for doing so. That's not very polite to say... and it's also not true. Men are largely the same as they've always been, it's women that did the biggest 180 by their their own autonomous choice... so those men just withdrew, leaving you only
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:41 AM
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TL;DR version: if you're not seeing women being unhappy about being single, you're not paying close enough attention. They just don't say it directly... instead they hamster it like it's men's failure that she's single.... every time they post something about "why don't guys ask us on actual dates anymore?" or they post about how they got used/ghosted by a fuckboy, or "why don't guys approach us anymore?", or any time they go on some stupid rant about how a guy "did them wrong" or "drained them"…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:32 AM
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My personal view on condoms actually goes beyond like/dislike of them... if I feel like I should be wearing a condom to get with a particular woman, then she's either too dirty or too unsuitable for motherhood to be risk sticking my dick in (let alone putting my face down there beforehand, etc.), so I just cut her loose all-together... my sexual needs are covered at all times, and I don't seek hookups (waste of time-- got a hand that works just fine for masturbation, don't need an overpriced vag…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:46 AM
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Until then there’s condoms which to be honest a lot of men hate using. For me personally sex is just as good with condoms That's because you're still getting most of the function (the friction/pressure) of the act with him wearing a condom vs. not. I've personally had situations where I literally couldn't tell the difference between being inside the woman or not when wearing a condom. Here's the female equivalent of a guy wearing a condom: Know what a Fleshlight is? If not, the TL;DR description…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:02 PM
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If we're talking "natural" as in "pure biological instinct"... as in "how does this work in the wild"... then: Males' base setting is "Polygyny" (i.e. they seek as much exclusive reproductive access from females as possible... including from multiple women).... note that's "Poly-gyny"-- i.e. multiple women with one man... they don't abandon previous partners when acquiring new ones. Females' base biological setting is "hypergamous serial monogamy"... i.e. they remain sexually monogamous to one m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:05 AM
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Quick google search says that only 45% of people are getting married.... so the majority AREN'T getting married.... And that doesn't take into account how many of those marriages don't STAY married and/or don't RE-marry after a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:50 AM
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Semantics about the word "hate" aside... It's because exclusive reproductive access (i.e. her being sexually monogamous towards only one male to ensure paternity) is the primary thing that men seek from females from an instinctive, biological imperative standpoint... a baseline concept that still carries over into other areas in more psychologically complex social environments. Sex workers are literally commodifying promiscuity on a directly transactional, "single-serving" basis (i.e. the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:43 AM
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......."Women are so extremely hypocritical." implies all women. Incorrect. It implies that it's an exception when they aren't hypocritical. "Jerry Rice was an extremely talented Wide Receiver" implies it was an exception for him to drop a pass or fumble the ball, not that he never did those things... Any person capable of having a reasonably productive, mature discourse about ANY subject understands that you can't do so without presenting generalizations as the commonly accepted status-quo to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:28 AM
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I feel like most women don’t actually do this you’re just projecting shitty women on to all women and holding an entire group accountable for the actions of a few. That's why women used to police themselves by pushing the loose ones out of their social circle, both to not be associated with them so men knew which were for sex only and which were for more than just sex, and also to keep the loose women away from their men when they got them. Now, the vast majority are using "equailty" as an excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:00 AM
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Women are so extremely hypocritical. They can't help it... they're too stupid to know that women bragging about a high body count is like a mouse bragging it can jump into the cat's mouth to get eaten. Or a simp bragging about how many times he got foodie called.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:52 AM
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It's only "hypocrisy" if the exact same people who were victims also admitted to doing the same things to other men. You can't use things that some women do as evidence that completely different women are hypocrites. You realize that, right? When the majority of your gender blames the men who get used in a certain way for being too weak/stupid to allowing themselves to be used then complains when they get blamed when they allow themselves to be too weak/stupid to get used the EXACT SAME WAY.... …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:34 AM
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How is that hypergamy? What you're describing isn't hypergamy. That's where you're confusion is coming from. In my post above, I explained what hypergamy actually is, and how it exclusively applies to female instincts. That aside, maybe you're not familiar with the "Tinder-Swindler" story that hit the news a while back that the previous poster was talking about.... The Tinder-swindler was a guy who lied about being being rich on his Tinder profile to acquire dates from (arguably gold-digging) wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:33 AM
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Already is... google any western/feminized/female-empowered country's birthrate, and you'll see that it's well below replacement level... many are even below irrecoverable levels. Japan, for example... their government is predicting their population will age and die out by 30% by 2065 (only 2 generations away) due to low birthrates (1.34, considerably less than the standard 2.1 replacement rate, and also less than the 1.6 threshold that correlates to an irrecoverable rate)... that's a drop in to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:16 AM
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OMFG... I never said anything about sleeping with... I said "going after" (which includes the woman failing to get anything at all from the man in question). Take 100 men, and 100 women, and put them in a room. It's entirely logically possible for 80+ of those women to pursue and fail to acquire a select 20 of those men.... regardless of whether they're looking for monogamous relationships OR sex OR even just to get taken on a date OR any other arbitrary interaction you're going to try to hamste…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:40 AM
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Women weren’t always welcome in the work force. They faced persecution, arrests, beatings, ostracization ect in the name of fighting for parity. They fought even when the cost was high and the outcomes uncertain. And the only reason they got anywhere on any of that is because a small portion of men advocated on their behalf... if 100% of men all told those women to shut the fuck up and sit down, and then outright cancelled/imprisoned/ostricized them from soceity like what is done to men, they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:58 AM
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"Hypergamy" is the innate biological instinct in females where they constantly try to seek out the single "highest value" partner available to them.... even going so far as being serially monogamous and monkey-branching (i.e. "trading-up") to a perceived better male partner (i.e. they abandon if not out right betray their previous partner) as they present themselves as available. Males' innate biological insinct is to seek out as much exclusive reproductive access as possible from the collective…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:16 AM
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You realize it isn’t humanly possible for 100% to be going after 20%. You're confusing "gaining monogamous commitment" with "going after"... It's entirely logically feasible for 4-5 women to all be vying for monogamous attetion of the same 1 man at the same time.... doesn't mean any of them are going to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:01 AM
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How 'bout the mother and the biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:55 PM
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We evolved from Great apes, not monkeys--with the chimpanzee being our closest living relative. What's interesting is that chimps don't mate by fighting each other for a female, in fact, they basically participate in orgies. Chimps live in trees and throw their own shit at each other. Compare that to the techological, philosophical, and cultural advancements made by the human species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:16 AM
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A lot of the "proper" solutions are a lot simpler than people think. By example, the fear of being excluded from the group is very strong, so social stigma is a huge controlling force that could single handedly make women act in a less degenerate manner without actual force being required. Literally what women in the traditional era used to do... they used to push the loose women out of their social circles so marriage-minded men knew which women were just for sex, and which were for more than j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:57 AM
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Nah, just an economic collapse. That alone will dismantle law enforcement, the rest will occur on it's own as anarchy overtakes civilization and people default to their primitive instincts due to lack of social pressure stopping them from doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:37 AM
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The fragmentation of society into tiny isolated cells is the most genius villain move of capitalism. It multiplies consumption while dividing the social fabric. In addition it forces the population to give away the care of old sicks and disabled people as well as children to the state as an economic service. The nuclear family functions just fine, and inherently does nothing to isolate anyone-- all it does is simplify/homogenize the most basic foundation to facilitate a stable family unit-- ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:34 AM
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No, that's the man-hating feminist lie version of the traditional nuclear family where they try to make all men out to all be misogynistic wife-beating shitlords... The fact that this same generation of men is often referenced as being "chivalrous" and have had "courted" their women... The Traditionalist era was known as the "Silent Generation"... the reason it was called the Silent Generation is that it was understood by default that everyone had a certain job to do, and they all shut their dam…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:52 AM
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In the US at least, the last legitimately stable generation (the Silent generation-- i.e. people born from just before the start of the Great Depression through the end of WW2) was made up almost exclusively of nuclear families. Extended family was involved, but sparingly... and communal family interaction was moreso a matter of honoring cultural values based on strength of character and emphasis on passing those values on to future generations (as opposed to materialism/excessive consumtion and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:58 AM
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TL;DR: Females have degenerated into acting like feral animals because their biological imperative is completely unchecked in modern society, while males are being forced to remain civilized and maintain society for little to no return by having their biological imperative checked to a crippling extent. This imbalance will eventually drive society to a breaking point in a number of ways, the best of which will result in a behavioral sink, which ultimately results in extinction due to demographic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:32 AM
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What "energy" is that? Because I'm not understanding your analogy you're trying to make here....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:52 AM
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Lol, troll attempt 0/10. Nice projection with the feelings comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:49 PM
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And in at least half of those (can't speak on the first three, haven't seen them), that "nerd" had to exhibit Chad qualities to defeat some world-altering conflict or rival to "get the girl".... That's not what Hallmark movies do... they do the opposite, where the guy gets the girl by catering to her and being "nicer" than the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:47 PM
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Already did in my post above. Not my fault your reading comprehension sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:14 PM
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Yeah, I still don't see hallmark movies (or any romance movie, chick-flick, etc. really) being aimed at any age or level of male demographic... but we can agree to disagree on this... it's not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:03 PM
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I wasn't talking about, nor defending her. She's neutral IMO. I was critizing the type of behavior that sad FDS losers engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:59 PM
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Do more research, chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:55 PM
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Try listening to some of her full podcasts where full-context of the discussions happen instead of just going off the snippits... this isn't the same shit as FnF... where it's all air-headed 10/10 bimbos with their tits hanging out getting frank-castled and Myron talking about expecting to cheat while she's gotta stay faithful, etc. If you can track any of Pearl's podcasts down with Aunt Jenny (the 50-year-old black woman), that'll give lend more weight to her channel. The biggest thing she brin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:07 PM
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Women advocating for red pill are just pick-me girls. Women who call any other women pick-me's are all skip-me's. FDS is that way ---->
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:02 PM
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Unless they deem you worthy of it. Then good faith, good behaviour, and good manners, are the least of what you receive. The problem is what women deem worthy is starting to fail the cost/benefit let alone risk/benefit analysis for a lot of men, so they just dip. Real-world example: If I stay on top of it from week to week, I can clean my entire house from one end to the other in about 6 hours, that includes meal-prep for the week, a week's worth of laundry, dishes use for meal prep done by hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:26 PM
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Who said he's going there for a wife? It also bears mentioning that a lot of MGTOW are such by necessity rather than choice... they're swearing off because females in western cultures aren't suitable for marriage (untrustworthy, too much baggage, substance problems, legit cluster-B conditions, etc.), not because they're against the idea of dating completely. From some of them, the whole no cohab/marriage/kids thing mostly only applies to hostile cultural enironments with terrible women. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:08 PM
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(Redpill is literally about becoming more appealing to women. Meanwhile MGTOW basically says throw the whole female gender away.) Not even close to being true. MGTOW don't hate women... they're the guys that took a step back and recognized the futility of the whole RP dance because of one key concept within the Red Pill: Hypergamy is relative, as in it will require an ever-increasing amount of placation, and without checking this basic female imperative on an inherently societal level (just like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:26 PM
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If men hate women so much, stop dating them. Make us sit in the corner and think about how bad we are and we'll get better. Why do so many women complain they can't find good men or wonder where all the good men went? Why are the only men in these women's dating pool all either players who won't commit and/or just want causal, or weak men they don't want? Regardless of whatever stigma you want to paint them it with, whatever misogyny vs. legit arguments they may or may not have, why do you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:28 PM
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Sounds like MGTOW-who-maybe-are-still-willing-to-hook-up-if-it-comes-easy 101. The end result of men being more comfortable being alone will just result in less men seeking relationships with women as a whole (including hookups), because it does nothing to compel women to improve as civilized relationship partners for those same men nor make their demands for a partner more realistic. Long story short, you'll have more stuck-up FDS'ers fucking hot guys they don't want relationships with on the D…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:13 PM
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No, if it's targetted at men, it's like Rocky (don't believe me? Go watch the movie again but skip all the parts about boxing, and just pay attention to the parts with Rocky and Adrian). Both are flawed, both complement each other to make a whole without trying to step on each others' toes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:56 PM
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^This... except I think "propoganda" is the wrong word... they're not actively trying to push an agenda. I'd say it's more "playing to your key audience"... which is just good marketing. Works on my mom every freakin' year, she watches the whole month-long run-up to Christmas... but then again she's 78 now (Silent Generation, before the boomers... grew up in a totally different cultural environment than later generations-- totally different mentality about relationships/mariage/family), so a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:47 PM
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It's attention porn for females... which is why it was so popular. Same as Twilight, except there they were also vampires and werewolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:30 PM
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LOL, I was gonna say the same thing... that and either the kid or the dog is sick...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:27 PM
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Something you’d think men here would be celebrating given how much time they spend bitching about the persecution of average guys. Shows just how disingenuous they really are. Because we're not women.... we don't get caught up in the "feels" of these movies... we know it's still all as much bullshit as Disney movies are... and it's ingrained in us from birth to always remember that real-life isn't a fucking fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:24 PM
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Lol, Disney-on-steroids levels of cringe...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:18 PM
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Sure, I'll drink the hot chocolate, you do the decorating. Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:09 PM
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Only reason Henry Cavill hasn't been in Hallmark movies is because he's too big of a star... they're too "small potatoes" (too small of an audience, not enough money in it) for him. Look at how he carries himself in interviews, he'd be a lock otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:03 PM
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I always assumed that specific phrase was typically used by your average FDS'er to try to shame men who wouldn't put up with their delusional crap... so it's basically meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:23 AM
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This kinda shows the female lies. "its not the size of the warrior its the way you use it" is what women say but how do they complement or shame a man? small penis is bad and big penis is good. I'd say that's more a matter of them being too uncreative and lazy to come up with their own insults than them being hypocritical. That aside, I respond to any sort of "small-dick" shaming with a situation-appropriate version of "My arm would be too small for the ever-expanding dimensional void between yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:16 AM
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Trust me, there's plenty of womeon who spend money they don't have who aren't rich. Why do you think females vastly outnumber males when it comes to outstanding worthless debt? (men have more auto-loan/mortage debt, women have more school-loan and credit-card debt). It's not just about spending on hobbies/etc.... it's about taking care of your responsibilities (including maintaining a cushion in your budget for unexpected expenses) before spending on non-essentials... and also getting more long-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:31 AM
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Keep in mind that you'd lose the mentality of male along with gaining the female body. The money would very likely (not guaranteed, but most likely) be going out as fast as it came in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:46 PM
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Oh, you fucking read it and now your running away cuz you got wrecked. Here's the TL;DR recap just to drive the point home for everyone who missed it: If women complain about not being minimally satisfied, it's an affront to all humanity. If men complain about not being minimally satisfied, it's "hating women". Yeah, sign me up for that shit! NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:03 PM
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I see..... so what you're actually saying here is that when women complain about not being satisfied sexually on a minimal level, she's totally justified and everyone should run themselves into the ground to better understand them..... .......but..... .... if a man complains about not being satisfied on a minimal level, that's "Muh soggy knees". Got it. You Go Grrrrl!.... Have fun with all those try-hard "nice guys" who don't know what they're doing that are the best you can attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:04 PM
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^This. The quality of women as wives has dropped considerably while the price in time, energy, money, and sanity has skyrocketed... even without hookup-culture being a thing, ya'll priced yourselves out of that market...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:21 AM
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\<sup>More</sup> or less this. Only difference in my experience is variations on the details of what actions were taken, and IMO, it's a waste of time, effort, sanity, and money without the "extra" beyond pussy. I have a hand If I just want to get off... don't need a woman or all the bullshit that comes with her if that's all I'm getting from the exchange. In turn, that means I need a reason to want to give her that kind of effort/attention that most can't/won't/think-they-shouldn't-have-to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:07 AM
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As a guy who's exes were pawing at him to get him into bed (among other telling non-verbal/visual cues) while I was the one swatting them away because they didn't know what they were doing, and refused to learn to be better (which is a significant reason why they're exes now), I can say the the other guys' experience is far more common than people think... Just another example of women not coming anywhere close to walking their own talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:44 AM
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Most guys don't have 4 years of formal education largely involving the overall anaotmocial makeup of the human body let alone an additional 4+ years of formal education focused directly on female reproductive anatomy. Meanwhile, women can't figure out that just because you were present on an occasion where a white liquid dribbled out of a guy's dick for the 6,427th time in his life, that doesn't mean you're an earth-shattering lover that he can't live without.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:30 AM
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*shrug* women are still using sex as their primary bargaining chip/manipulation tool rather than a mutually beneficial act.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:08 AM
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A big problem is that the terms aren't used with consistency or under concretely defined terms... they're often used fluidly depending on what women are currently interested in as an overall demographic-- something that changes with the seasons if not their mood swings that can occur every 5 minutes. For a example, a guy who's right at the 10% mark is considered "Alpha" if women want the top 10%... but if that suddenly shifts to them only wanting only the top 9%, that guy is automatically re-cat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:04 AM
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Also unless on steroids a normal man who exercises will have around the same testosterone as a d1 athlete. Actually under certain circumstances more. This. They just don't have the genetics and/or time to devote to reaching the same level of ability as the other dudes who often started participating in their sport of choice in middle school. This is also why I say the alleged society-wide T-level issues being reported in the current era don't really hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:55 AM
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The criteria is pretty broad for that study though... They're essentially counting the guy who gets laid by different women multiple times a week the same as the guy who got laid once in the last year as part of that "72% of men who had sex".... but the reality is that far more than that 10% differential of women-to-men who had sex are "sharing" the first guy, and the 2nd guy is an outlying anomoly who caught her on a bad day one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:35 AM
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AFAIK, it does if you started paying for it before they became ill... that's kinda the whole point of Life Insurance to begin with...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:24 AM
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She's hanging on for the Social Security/life insurance payout that men don't really care about because they already built enough for them not to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:35 AM
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It’s a Reddit comment. Game, set, match. Pot. Kettle. Black.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:24 AM
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I think part of why men commit suicide because they are socialized to be tools of resource extraction and protection, at the expense of their well being. And the biggest proponents of that "toxic socialization" are women... by who they choose to date/mate with, while failing to take on the counterpart support role to that to preserve the men's well-being. The rest of your post stems from that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:16 AM
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Considering I was raised in an anomolously stable family (85% marriage success rate spanning 3 generations among those who were my role models) by Silent Generation (i.e. pre-boomer) parents (note that includes a silent generation woman, who, along with my grandmothers, aunts, and older sisters, are whose example set the bar for what I consider a minimally acceptable woman), I'd say the only thing I know is how to make a relationship work (for both sexes), as that's pretty much the only examples…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:09 AM
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Applaud this. Men don't understand that men do so little domestically If I have to do it all myself, there's no point in having you there at all, let alone do the work of pursuing a relationship with you, and you bitching is why men who would have contributed around the house are increasingly turning away from talking to most women with any sort of seriousness. I can replace a worthless pussy with my own hand. It doesn't bitch, it doesn't cost me anything, does a better job than the woman attach…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:18 AM
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It’s so funny because you say the average woman is undateable yet all you guys complain about is the average woman not wanting you Both of these points can be true at the same time... a woman can both be undatable shit and also still not want to sleep with average men because they're deluded about their own worth, which is part of what makes them undateable shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:47 AM
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We don’t need men, but we want men. What women want changes with their mood, and as such is unreliable, and I want no part of it. My hand is a viable substitute for whatever the fuck it is you're offering. I don't want you at all, because you have all the reliablility of a spoiled child, or a "fair-weather fan" of a sports team--- in short, you're fully committed.... until you want to not be. This is the crux of the problem: To choose to be there instead of being required to be In order for a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:22 AM
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A hard truth that people need to remember is that the male and female sexual imperatives are diametrically opposed to one another. And if left unchecked, both are at odds with what allows civilized society to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:09 AM
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So many women give up on men when they get older and are happy. Because society artifically protects them... take away the legal system and all government agencies as well as infrastructure after an economic collapse because too many men started scaling back and/or dropping out and and see how the women fare then. and if they don't then they often suffer from depression and have even been known to commit suicide. There are also data to support this. You're data on male need for companionship is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:05 AM
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Women build communities and create offspring, men compete to be a part of that, usually via force or, in newer times, economics and social policies (which could only be enforced because men are physically stronger and women have a terminal case of empathy, projection and understanding wrt social issues). The only things women as whole do is incubate offspring (which, given the sub-replacement birthrates in most "feminist" countries, you're failing to do at a rate that will sustain your own man-h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:59 AM
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The entire point of males is to compete for pussy or die trying. Entire civilizations have been built around granting subpar men access to women, You have it backwards.... the only reason civilized society (and thus any degree of female "independnece" at all) continues to exist is because both sexes' base nature (hypergamy for females, and the dominance instinct in males) are/were put in check. The only thing men actually need women for is reproduction, and you can supply that if you're in a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:40 AM
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This view doesn’t matter much because men need women and are more desperate for their company than vice versa, so the women who are not interesting can get away with being that way. The only thing men "need" women for is reproduction... and if you don't want kids, even that's not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:27 AM
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^^^ This. FDS has openly stated their philsophy is amoral and self-serving... it's about extracting as much one-way benefit from men as possible without consideration of reciprocation or self-improvement in favor of being a better female partner themselves. It's for all practical purposes exclusively about making higher demands of men, while keeping what they acquire for themselves.... quite literally "what's hers is hers, and what's his is hers too".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:23 AM
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And then only for temporary use... which also bears consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:13 AM
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The majority of men are very unattractive and not interesting to women. No, they're not.... The reality is that most men are actually decent... they're just not talking to most women... because the women themselves are utter garbage. A few years ago, I had a guy in his upper 50's present me with the same sentiment you just did... basically he phrased it as "what is wrong with younger men these days?"... I asked him "Have you looked at the women their supposed to pair off with lately? Promiscuity…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:09 AM
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It also seeks to absolve women of having to bear the consequence of their own bad decisions. Long story short, it's a form of ideological narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:40 AM
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Doesn't make it less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:25 AM
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Try adding proper sentence/paragraph structure to your educational agenda and I might have actually got through that whole post. As is, I got halfway through the wall of text (i.e. "dog mom hehe"), and stopped reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:25 AM
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Studied with data that's decades old and comes from a completely different cultural environment which in turn caused people to act and think very differently. The data on the current/most recent generations is at best incomplete at present. Like I said, the conclusions of that data were mis-interpretted... the benefit men get from "marriage" comes from the contributions of the woman based on her devotion to the relationship/man, not from the concept of "marriage" in-and-of-itself. Had my mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:06 AM
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same for your "marriage" talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:20 PM
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Marriage increases men’s lifespan, but sure, whatever ...and divorce shortens it. Then again, the body might live longer while he's married, but his soul dies long before the body actually falls over. FTR, it's not "marriage" that does that, its the devotion of the woman that does that... which, in 2022, marriage does absolutely nothing to guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:37 AM
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Truly picky women don't get picked either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:30 AM
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It's not just about alimony/losing half your shit... it's also about child custody/support/alienation... which is arguably far more damaging in ways that don't involve the courts, and can potentially land a man in the only "legal" version of "debtor's prison"... i.e. he goes to prison for unpaid child support because he lost his job through no fault of his own and get get another one that pays as much, and can't get the payments reduced... he does his time, gets out, and can't get a job because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:41 AM
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They don't like it when MEN like video games, because they're not providing her with some sort of Utility/Attention when they're playing them. They're fine with loading up candy crush on their phone and calling themslves a "gamer".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:25 AM
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It baffles me how women don't undestand that the law very often doesn't give a shit about men. Then again, those with privelege often can't see it. Most of us have watched someone in our own personal lives go through the wringer in divorce/family court, which is why we say men get screwed there in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:54 AM
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But like….that’s normal dating though? And you for sure can 100% get over it. "dating" sure... but you made the topic about "marriage", which has much more serious implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:14 AM
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Assume there is something that will make this woman act like she loves you. How 'bout the pressure of being dropped on her ass and having to get a job and support herself (like any given adult has to in modern society) if she wants to break the commitment she made to him and actively does wrong towards him? Oh, the horror. *rolls eyes*. FFS, she choose of her own free will to marry the guy before her behavior "magically" changed... if she didn't love him, but still agreed to marry him, clearly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:12 AM
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That's not the risk concerning marriage... the risk is having them cheat, and then having the government force you to give them half your livelyhood to keep supporting them after the marriage ends. To make an analogy: If HE cheats, she chops his leg off and takes it with her when she leaves. If SHE cheats, he has to chop his leg off and give it to her before he can leave. I'm willing to bet a lot of guys would be far more open to the concept of marriage if they could dump their cheating wife in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:03 AM
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This is basically a more verbose/convolunted version of the "do you want someone who \needs** you, or who *wants\* you?" question... To which my answer is always "before anything else, I want the one who has the personal character to, in good faith, honor the commitment they made to me even if someone better starts sniffing around, and as long as I don't actively do them wrong." While extremely flawed and disingenuously "loaded" by the OP with convoluted cotradictory conditions (such as the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:58 AM
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Why pay good money for what i can get for free from my own hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:48 AM
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I'm talking about populations in nature. We don't live in "nature"... we live in civilized society. The end result of what you're saying will regress into a subsisitence-living, pre-industrial-age standard... I'm talking about populations in nature. There is nothing wrong with reducing the native population by 30, 40, 90%. No civilization that recorded birthrate statistics has ever recovered once their native (i.e. non-immigrant) birthrate has dropped below 1.6/woman for an extended period of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:32 AM
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If they're "fluctuating", it's by means of immigration. If more of your native citizenry is dying off than are being born to replace them (i.e. you have a "sub-replacement" birthrate), then your native population is shrinking, not fluctuating. FFS, that's just basic math. Japan is a perfect example: at their current birth rate (1.36/woman, well under the replacement rate of 2.1/woman), their government is predicting their domestic population will decline by 30% (almost a third of their populatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:09 AM
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Immigration is the only way you can make up for sub-replacement birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:48 AM
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It is interesting what's happening in Japan though and I'm curious to know how it'll affect their society. Their welfare state will crash due to being over-burdned, and their economy will crash due to lack of consumers to participate in it, which in turn means people can't find the means of sustaining themselves. We've already seen what happens when less people are in the workforce, all the places in need of workers gave out better incentives like higher pay and better benefits. Arbitrarily/arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:18 AM
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Not with all the woke bullshit going on in western countries they wont... FFS, the US just got pushed out of Afghanistan by the Taliban. Furthermore, people from those countries are already immigrating to western countries (using those countries own welfare states to do so), and installing their own culture while that technology is being developed. Even if they do kill off all the "savage" cultures that have surplus birthrates, the native western popluation is still declining. That just results …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:56 AM
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We're talking about a behavioral sink... these things don't run linearly... in an environment of relative abundance/safety, the pattern is that you have a population boom up to a certain point, then it plateaus for a short period, and then it crashes into extinction. The thing is, the crash occurs exponentially... the decline starts gradually so it's easily missed/ignored, but eventually it curves into a steep decline... which is why no one sees the "point-of-no-return" coming until it's too lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:24 AM
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ANY system will depend on sustainable reproduction, and no westerners aren't having enough kids... virtually every single "western" country has a sub-replacement birthrate, and many have dropped below the irrecoverable threshold. Even if you wipe out the non-western countries, a sub-replacement birthrate means you're still going to die out... doesn't matter if you start with 15 trillion people, or 100,000.... only difference is how long it'll take for you to go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:48 AM
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You should hold women in your life to higher standards as well. Exactly what Andrew Tate does... he just expresses it with harshly-worded sentiments. If all of the women you meet and your interactions with are yielding the same type of awfulness you need to evaluate the common denominator. Me having healthy boundaries that women don't fit resulting in me refusing to pursue them for relationships somehow makes me the problem? Maybe the common denominator is that the culture as a whole has complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:35 AM
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Just because you are exposed to something isn't an excuse. I'm talking about shifting your strategy as a matter of survival/succeeding. Women in recent generations are far more out of control than they used to be, so men have to be more swift and harsh when it comes to vetting them than they used to. The point isn't to fit in, it's to be better. Exactly... and because women are moving towards their basic primitive state, men will have to stop engaging in civilized "traditionalist" behavior, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:13 AM
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Westerners are the exact ones who aren't having enough kids to last long enough for all of that to happen... the way we're going, they'll end up struggling to being able to afford to eat before they produce this egalitarian utopia you speak of. They'll also more likely be overrun by non-westerners who are quickly outbreeding them before then as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:03 AM
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That kind of provider mentality is what many women are looking for in a partner. After they get knocked up by the guy they actually want to fuck... 3 times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:49 PM
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How does the saying go? You can either understand women, or you can love them... you can't do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:45 PM
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Tate vs. Patrice O'neal's behavior/way of speaking reflects their era's cultures. They're 17 years apart-- the better part of a generation... and that particular gap spans when 2nd-wave feminism came into the forefront. Tate acts the way he does because the culture of his generation (he's right at the start of the Millenial generation) is that much more out of control compared to O'neal's (early Gen-X... which was bad enough). Compare not only the culture of those generations themselves, but als…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:26 PM
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Edit, that’s why they prey on younger ones and try to argue iTs lEgAL, they look at it like getting a puppy instead of an older rescue dog with issues Bad analogy. Older dogs with issues are still happy to be with you once you show them you're not going to do them wrong like someone else might have (i.e. the "tests" actually fucking STOP at some point), and they're WAY more loyal than any woman ever will be, and happier with far less superficial bullshit as well-- They don't care how much money …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:06 PM
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People who subscribe to the snake-oil salesmen like Tate probably not in any healthy capacity. Except Tate isn't wrong. It's the same shit anyone else says, he just says it more crudely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:53 AM
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Historically, cultures with low birth rates were conquered and either executed or assimilated (in both cases their recorded history often being lost/erased) into the new usually more advanced/powerful culture (which was often so due to better prosperity, including a surplus birthrate which allowed them to expand and claim more territory) before it could naturally die out. Population concerns/controls/etc. are a relatively new phenomenon due to the technological advancements over the last 50-75 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:58 AM
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If a given demographic's birthrate is under 2.1/woman, that demographic is heading toward extinction (i.e. their native population is getting smaller due to not having enough offspring to replace their own people as they die off). That'll go faster than people think, and it also takes time to correct due to having to shift cultural behaviors back towards something that produces children... and many western countries are already too far gone for that to be voluntarily possible. Japan's government…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:54 AM
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And the 2% that survives will be from cultures that subjugate their females don't artificially empower their women... i.e. NOT the vast majority of western cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:52 AM
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Your entire "Marriage is extremely good for men if:" section doesn't come from the concept of "marriage", but rather from the proactive and sustained devotion of the woman involved towards remaining consistently committed to the relationship regardless of what hardships (not faults or wrongdoing, but legitimate hardships) that occur. Two people can do everything you said just fine without a third-party government contract that says she gets to fuck him over any time she wants for any reason she …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:17 AM
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It also shows they don't care if that man is a racist piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:01 AM
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70 plus percent of women still prefer men who make more than them. It's even more prevalent in educated women. ... So just more lonely dudes. Even moreso when you consider that those women are often repulsive to men due to lack of femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:23 AM
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The pendulum is on the other side, as women now have the natural advantage in the dating scene (the same way men had it in the past). Actually, their current advantges aren't natural... they all come from the development of civilized society, which is 100% unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:13 AM
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The best financial bet for a women is to not have kids. Until your economy collapses due to the population aging/dying out... Then you encounter problems like there's no one to make all the shit women buy (so what's the point of having all that money?), no one growing food... no one to ship goods cross-country even if you can buy them. Fewer people to do the things that women pay men to do for them now (i.e. various trades, construction, etc.), or to protect them (i.e. law-enforcment), the welfa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:41 AM
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More women in modern society are passing on having children This is why feminist societies have never lasted.... they inevitably become behavioral sinks and go extinct. Demographic winter here we come! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:23 AM
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Women want a man earning 20% more than them in average (studies say). Last I saw/heard, women wanted men to make 66% of the household income... so double what she makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:56 AM
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It's getting to the point where it's becoming disingenuous... kinda like halloween costumes... it's become more about injecting sex into everything under the sun just for the sake of it rather than actually trying to emulate the characters/etc.... FFS, when you have women dressing up as half-naked Minecraft wolves, that's not cosplay, that's jerking weak and desperate people around because you're desperate for/addicted to seeking attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:23 PM
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That's not true for everyone. That's why I quit and have just accepted obesity. What specifically were you doing for exercise, and how did you change your diet? (not "did you go on a diet"... how did you change your diet). And how long did you consistently maintain the change/excercise routine for?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:37 AM
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I'd say it's the other way around... You're arguing that all celebrities/instathots roll out of bed red-carpet/instagram-shoot-ready and can't be "naturally" average-looking. Emma Watson without makeup/filters: https://imgur.com/gallery/oCvSmfP https://imgur.com/gallery/8P2sIpJ https://imgur.com/a/OYwbgFn Legit 5-6.... i.e. average/slightly above and "cute", but nothing really outstanding...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:07 AM
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College women are automatically above average because you need money and brains to get into college. Have you met the average college student these days? You need neither... you just have to be able to take out a loan (or have a credit card or be able to acquire some other version of financial aid-- which is thrown at females left and right these days-- nevermind the gender quotas...) and not be mentally disabled to get into college... Whether you can finish or not, that's a different story... b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:22 AM
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Average looking female celebrity: Demi Lovato. Maybe 5-10 years ago... she's fucking hideous now...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:34 AM
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"The average woman is 5'4 and 170lbs. " You're conflating what the "average" MODERN woman's current statistical measurements are (which qualify as "overweight" even from a medical standpoint... i.e. there's more "weight", and it more commonly falls in less flattering areas of the body), and what men see as a woman who looks "average" when it comes to physical attractiveness/aesthetics (i.e. not overweight, but not necessarily thin/perfect either). Fairly Accurate Example: https://www.reddit.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:33 AM
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If she's on top and falling asleep, she's her own damn problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:40 AM
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YOu're the one that brought up "Power to convince the other to do something". At no point did I say I was actively competing against those "men"... or where I forewent my own standards to engage in that "race to the bottom"? In short, I got 4 of the last 5 women I actually went after (and the one that passed, I made it known up-front I wasn't down for long-term, so that's reasonable), and they failed to keep me... so clearly I'm not the problem. The problem is that it took 20+ years to find thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:27 AM
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Red pill absolutely teaches sexist shit. So does feminism. And BLM/CRT pushes racist shit. The whole damn woke mob is WAY more cult-like than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:37 AM
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For women the intent very often more of a "cry for help", i.e. a version of seeking attention... they don't really want to not exist... that's why the methods they use are often things that take a while to do the job, or are often less effective.. like overdosing on pills, consuming poisons, or using car exhaust, jumping off something, etc. For men the intent is actual self-deletion-- They actively want to no longer exist, and act using faster-acting, and more surely-lethal means (most often han…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:27 AM
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Men and women have different biological imperatives... how much he makes (i.e. resource provision) is almost always a direct concern for women... for men it's usually not. Combine the biological difference with the same question and the difference in intent can be explained fairly logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:35 AM
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The term you're looking for is "war brides".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:22 AM
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Blah blah blah... #HashTtagNotAll... 0.5% of men are chubby-chasers, so #NotAllMen like "fit" women... that's not a reason for a woman to purposely become overweight. OK, so you're not getting with ugly average earning men... but a significant number of women would marry a rich guy they don't want to fuck (among other things they don't like about him that might go along with him being rich... like being a workaholic who's never home) in a heartbeat because they want to benefit from his fucking m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:01 AM
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Right, you cheat MORE than men due to having more opportunity, and suffer less consequence for doing so, if any at all... hell, given the current legal system, you potentially get rewarded for stepping out on a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:38 AM
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Yeah... I was agreeing with what you said... I just stated so in a overly sarcastic way while while pointing out that that logic stands as evidence that the n-count concern is about a correlation to key character flaws, not just an arbitrary number.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:28 AM
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Drugs, alcohol, staying out late, poor decision making, lack of impulse control. All lead to high body counts. All of those things also lead to infidelity. Huh.... Imagine that... It's as if men are judging loose women based on their underlying character and not a random superficial statistic... who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:56 AM
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I always say that people who care about a number are insecure. At some point that "insecurity" crosses over into her legitimate lack of trustworthiness... If their "liberation" has taught us anything, it's that women are just as bad character-wise as men are accused of being, if not worse because they often don't suffer any consequence for being so-- and there is a distinct lack of social pressure for women to be "decent" nowadays. You're seem like the type that will tell a man to stop being ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:50 AM
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They mask it... like asking "what do you do for a living" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:43 AM
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Right... we can't... which is why, In 2022, I just assume they've all slept around.... if they're not exhibiting blatant signs of both sexual and non-sexual interest right from the get-go, I don't bother cuz she's already fucking someone else and/or not into me enough to invest relationship-level attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:40 AM
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Therefore implying she's damaged. No, it means she has low sexual impulse control, which means she's a bad choice to invest in for a long-term, committed relationship where fidelity is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:38 AM
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Any woman? No. Past sexual history matters. One horrible LTR experience where she was raped and beaten jades a woman way worse than 20 ONSs where she was happy and just wanted a fuck. That's the difference between a 15/10 and a 10/10 on the "Red-flag Parade" scale... Or if you'd prefer... like choosing between being murdered by being stabbed in the stomach and left to bleed out, or gunshot to the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:35 AM
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Carousel implies Carousel implies a short-term/temporary entertainment ride that's that one gets on over again, with a plethora of different "seats" to choose from. The problem is when she doesn't want to ride the carousel anymore (after being severely damaged in various ways), she's expecting the permanent option ("husband material") to pay her to let her (and all her baggage) to ride shotgun with him permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:31 AM
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Then it doesn't fucking matter, does it? Cuz women don't stay faithful to men they're not sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:04 AM
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Actually, that is the definition of "competition"... she's literally pitting her career (i.e. her ability to fill the masculine provider role) against his. But it's HER biology that's doing that, not his. This is why, biologically, for men relationships are always a competition... if not against other men because unchecked female biology demands it... then against the "career women" (who are essentially presenting themselves as quasi-male rivals... just with tits)... (there's no winning for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:47 AM
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Hypocrisy is often a sign of high machiavelianis... one of the dark triad traits that femalesm are innately attracted to in males... so you might be on to something there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:32 AM
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A man having the power to say "no" to a woman because he's happy without one isn't going to convince a woman to make relationship effort with him... especially when there's an army of simps giving her what she wants without her having to do anything for that man to compete against-- it's essentially a race to the bottom, where men having self-respect and healthy boundaries means they eliminate themselves from the game due to lack of worthwhile partner options. FTR, what you're saying here also s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:22 AM
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But to do that he’d have to stop looking at women as good enough to fuck and good enough to wife. Crazy how when men do it it’s expected but a woman does and send the apocalypse. It's not the same for both... mainly because the dynamic is that marriage (i.e. commitment of resources) is the reward for women, while sex (reproductive access) is the reward for men. For men it's linear: They won't date/marry a woman they don't also want to fuck. For women it's compartmental/modular: She'll fuck a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:55 AM
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The reason they call it the "cock carousel" is because she's riding dick in the context of entertainment rather than the context of long-term commitment. That's not bound by a number. For example: a no-strings FWB situation is still "being on the cock-carousel"... she just picks the same seat/horse every time she gets on the ride. And I'm saying this based on the practical effects of the behavior.... the same biological/hormonal functions/conditioning still occur whether she's having casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:33 AM
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Objective consideration: Was sex between you and your husband all about you (as is often the case when a woman expresses a "spiritual fondness" for toys), while he got basically the same thing (quite possibly worse) than he can get from his own hand? Just sayin'... could be the reason why the videos are "better"... cost/benefit ratio is a consideration... (and by "cost" in this case I mean time, effort, and sanity rather than money...). I dumped more than one woman for this exact reason... they …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:17 AM
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Initially most women would do none of it... and then all of it after she divorces him when her ovaries start screaming loud enough about how much they hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:55 AM
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Ugly short fat guys in his basement blaming hypergamy for his lack of success, instead of accepting his limitations. He's not wrong. It is hypergamy that gives him a lack of success. If it wasn't for that, his own equal would be an option.... but because of hypergamy, even his female equivalent doesn't want him.... even if she has no chance of getting better herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:46 AM
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More often than not ex-sluts will attend churches to become "born-again virgins" To which I say "sorry hunny, Jesus cleans souls, not holes, and he don't clean your soul until you die... the damage is already done!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:50 PM
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Why is it unrealistic for men to expect a satisfying sex life within the context of a committed relationship with a woman who hasn't displayed that she's got a lack of impulse control that will makes her untrustworthy for such a committed relationship? Sounds to me like the women in this thread are pissed that just showing up with a pussy doesn't qualify them for a top-tier husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:41 PM
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As unrealistic as it might be the perfect women in many man’s minds is an angel that fucks like a demon but only for him. Which is actually a modern cultural extension of the male biological imperative... i.e. the dominance instinct = men compete for as much EXCLUSIVE reproductive access from females as possible. The way that works within a society built on life-long, one-to-one, pair-bonded social structures (i.e. Marriage-based) means if she's the only one he gets to bang, and he has to work h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:34 PM
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TLDR; churches aren’t free wife centers don't take into consideration the consequences/interference that comes from the secular part of society that go against Christian faith that come with marriage. Fixed that for you. Men don't just marry the woman anymore... he also marries a government and a culture that's eternally looking for a reason to fuck him over to favor her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:23 PM
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I want a “good girl” decent, emotionally stable, maturely feminine woman that I can actually put faith in to hold up her end of a fucking relationship who doesn’t sleep around, who will simultaneously do what a girl who sleeps around does. but will still actually proactively participate in a healthy sex-life within the context of a committed relationship. Fixed that for ya. Don't know why this is such a hard concept to understand... oh wait, that's right... silly me.... because anything that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:14 PM
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Because churches have capitulated to feminist narrative and become largely gynocentric right along with the rest of society. By Gynocentric, I mean they still push the concept of "men need to be traditional, but women can do whatever they want, and it's on the men to keep them in line". Essentially, they're tasking men with being their own partner's father vs. her acting like a rebellious daughter (which is not a healthy christian pairing in the first place), while levying no consequence on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:01 PM
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LOOOOLLLOLOLLOLOLOLO... OMFG... no, they're not.... unless you want your house to look like a fucking back-woods hillbilly shithole, or you want to risk potential environmental damage that can cost tens of thousands of dollars to fix. There's ALWAYS something that needs tending to, if not for maintenance, then for preventative reasons. There's also the matter of the traditionally male "chores" being more physically intensive (you dig-up level, and re-lay a front walk made out of cement pavers th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:52 AM
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That's because most women haven't been ACTIVELY PRESENTING anything men are interested in from a female partner other than their physical aspects... they also seem to expect to be catered to to a ridiculous extent solely because they're born with a hole between their legs. This isn't the 1950's anymore... we can't assume you have any remote feminine character qualities, be they due to social pressure or not... i.e. as a consequence of becoming "liberated" and "independent", women as a whole chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:30 AM
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The difference is that men are expected to overcome your walls while also having to watch his own back, while you're told to staunchly guard your walls until someone overcomes them. I've made the analogy in the past that men have it worse in dating because we have to play both offense and defense, while women only play defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:16 AM
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Women want men to connect to THEM, but don't want to have to reciprocate that connection to him in any way that takes consistent, voluntary, long-term effort in a way that's meaningful TO HIM. It's arguable that having to do this actually turns her off towards having any kind of relationship with him... including plutonic friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:11 AM
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Yes, in a social vacuum, humans are animals-- driven purely by base instincts. They have to have constant social pressure (if even only underlying) put on them to not act like animals and instead act in a way that results in a better overall long-term outcome. This process is conceptually called "civilization".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:37 AM
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As a man, I think women greatly underestimate the responsibilities and demands that are coupled with those alleged "advantages" that men have, as well as the amount of consequence that gets dumped on men by the bad, irresponsible, and/or hypocritical decisions/viewpoints women make/have. I don't have time to write a 3-page long post right now, but I guarantee you there's a male version of every example you gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:59 AM
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Ah, it's women fault, from what I've read, I've come to the conclusion that you're a right wing extremist, probably Christian/Catholic, pro-life, trump supporter, think the last election was rigged, and take Fox News as the holy grail, but yes women are at fault. If you're haven't already trapped a sucker..I mean woman via dating or marriage, then you should take advice from MGTOW and give up. You ,individually, sir are the issue in your dating downfall, not the poor women you encounter. Maybe a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:51 AM
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I don't need to trust you to know this. Chads are also getting heartbroken after falling in love with what he thought was the one or leaving his whore ways behind. And then he goes back to smashin'-and-trashin'. Stacy becomes a trophy wife or a successful gold digger. ... ...and every Stacy is not being a house wifed. Seems like you're the one "deviating" (if not outright backtracking)... Make up your mind... are Stacies still having' their cake and eating it too "Sex-in-the-City" style, or are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:51 AM
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And that's exactly most men's take when "muh soggy-knees" gets brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:19 AM
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Great. Tell the women to stop being man-haters when they bitch about getting used by fuckboys for sex then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:08 AM
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Trust me, Stacies are also getting fucked-n-chucked in the modern era. The ones that actually manage to become "trophy wives" and "successful gold diggers" are as rare as top 1% rich men that they leech off of are. Men bring plenty because they use what they make FAR more efficiently than women do. Women's expectations are legitimately skewed towards demanding luxury... to the point that men are increasingly rejecting long-term commitments with even hot women in favor of maintaining their own lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:03 AM
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You're literally proving my point... that the term is overused and has largely become meaningless. If calling women who make themselves not good relationship material by sleeping around a lot whores/sluts/for-the-streets/hoes/304's/trash/etc. is "misogyny", then calling men who do the same fuckboys/etc. is "misandry", and any woman calling a man such needs to be chastised as a man-hating bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:43 AM
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Thats not the epiphany phase, thats them hitting the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:10 PM
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Misogyny has become too subjectively defined these days. It's to the point that the word has essentially become either ignored as white noise, or an indicator of delusion when used as a serious arguing point. If a guy tells a woman to keep her fucking legs closed and stop acting like a fucking whore if she wants to be taken seriously for a relationship, that's not misogyny (harsh language, yes, but not misogyny), but many even here on PPD would call it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:07 PM
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Except women can do that now... they're still choosing not to have enough kids. You also dont address the issue of even Stacy being overpriced (if not flat out worthless) for a relationship beyond sex... which is why she gets fuck'd-n-chuck'd in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:42 PM
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Hypergamy is not going to end because us men find it unfair. It is the way it is. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can make an informed choice regarding mate selection. Hypergamy (as well as the male counterpart: the dominance instinct) being held in check by social consequences for breaking marital vows (i.e. going against a framework of life-long pair-bonded social structures) is the only reason civilized society advanced like it did in the first place. Without some version of a check …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:22 AM
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Intent matters in humans as opposed to animals More accurately: Rational decision making is favored more in civilized environments vs. reflexive actions based on biological instinct is better for uncivilized environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:18 AM
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Men aren’t thirsting after babies when they see a hot woman You thinking about it backwards... On a subconcious level they are... when their biology urges them to have sex with a female, they're literally being chemically/hormonally compelled to engage in reproduction... which, in an uncivilized environment, he'd just act on that urge instinctively/reflexively, offspring would be the assumed result of such. It's all the "artificial" (read: not naturally produced) consequences enforced by civiliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:11 AM
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I don’t think men, collectively, or society as a whole, can rid themselves of the notion that women are inherently [more] valuable. For reproduction only (and they're not even worth that given the sub-replacement birthrates in most "feminized" countries...). Women would be fucked if they didn't have men around to actually maintain the civilized society (a 100% artificial, human-made concept) that allows for them to be "empowered" in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:01 AM
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Until the woman decides to unilaterally bail on that marriage because someone 5% better started sniffing around (cuz hypergamy is a thing...), and she gets rewarded for breaking her side of that commitment by the courts ripping his livelyhood out through his dick and handing it to her as a parting gift. And that's before you consider that any "happiness" and/or practical benefit that he derived from that relationship/marriage also ending as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:57 AM
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From where? All the other countries with cultures where females are "empowered" similarly aren't having enough kids and also need to import people. The cultures that have surplus birthrates generally don't mesh with feminist culture, and will instead install their own (often hard-patriarchal) cultures... either through direct force (i.e. conquest), grassroots infiltration/installation of said culture (i.e. using those other cultures own welfare systems to acquire a foothold, then use that footho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:50 AM
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Why would women march for something that is in direct opposition to their freedom of choice? Because their choices tend to only benefit themselves in the short-term at the extreme expense of the rest of society long-term... which will ultimately result in the collapse of that society, and women don't do so well by themselves in uncivilized environments. But most women aren't ready to have that discussion because there isn't enough societal pain yet... and by the time they are ready, it'll be too…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:35 AM
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Worked for the Taliban who took back Afghanstan from the US, and are now outbreeding them at a rate of 3 to 1.... and more importantly at a surplus rate vs. a deficit rate. The takeaway is that some socially-enforced checks on both sexes' biological nature is necessary for a civilized society to function and sustain itself. In 2022, women are acting completely unchecked, to the point that they're becoming unattractive to build families with to even a large portion of average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:30 AM
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The problem isn't the grind itself... most men expect to have to do that.... it's practically ingrained in use from birth. The problem is that modern society expects men to let women leech off the success of his grind for essentially nothing of worth in return.... if not being outright "rewarded" with more unnecessary grind to the point where that "sisyphean effort" becomes a "pyrrhic victory".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:24 AM
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All of which is only useful to us for about an hour a day... 45 minutes of which is also arguably us focusing on her, while we effectively get the same thing we get from our own hand. They need to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:13 AM
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Most men on this sub are not misogynistic.... being critical of the behavior of women is not inherently synonymous with "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 10:00 AM
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Without some version of a pair-bonded social structure, civilized society fails for various reasons and regresses into a primitive, hostile environment.... which doesn't fare well for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:58 AM
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If anything natural selection is a hindrance. How is 6'2" a "good" height to have in today's world? You only get back problems sooner in life. Basic biological nature left unchecked doesn't care about, understand, nor take into consideration "civilization"... it only understands physical survival as it pertains to uncivilized environments... therefore it goes for physical characteristics and aggression over everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:54 AM
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The long-term "natural selection" in this case is that "feminized" culture goes extinct due to behavioral sink/demographic winter (i.e. not enough offspring to carry on that culture), and/or is overtaken by a hard-patriarchal culture that has a surplus birthrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:48 AM
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Men actually hold the living sperm in them that decides even the sex of the child. In a society where women have agency over their own lives (i.e. they're empowered and independent), it's women decide what men enter their body and potentially conceive a child, therefore women decide which men reproduce. Women are not mind readers and it is not their responsibility to make sure men raise their children. Based on the previous point, It is the woman's responsibility to choose the best father for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:58 AM
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The numbers don't lie. Most countries where women are less empowered have surplus birthrates (i.e. their populations are growing), while most western (read feminized) cultures have a sub-replacement birthrate (i.e. their native citizenry is dying out due to demographic winter due to too few offspring being born to replace the current population). For reference, 2.1 births per woman is the break-even point. many western countries are actually closer to if not below the extinction threshold of 1.6…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:41 AM
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The drive to reproduce is very important, but it can be mastered, if not at least redirected in ways that are healthier than others. Life-long pair-bonded social structures (i.e. Marriage) was supposed to be something that did this by using social pressure to put checks on the destructive parts of both sexes' biological nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:39 AM
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i.e.. the removal of societal checks on female nature that stop them from acting like unstable feral animals at the expense of the rest of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:32 AM
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Human birth rates typically drop in cultures where females are artificially empowered at the expense of the rest of society... i.e. when women don't have to be accountable to men in order to benefit from men's provision because it's being re-distributed to them through the government (which also largely contributes to artificiaily increasing the cost of living). Taliban-controlled Afghanistan (who just put their women back into Burkhas) has a flourishing birth-rate compared to the vast majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:30 AM
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In an uncivilized environment, this is largely how it is, yes.... and in a lot of cases, the females also aren't given a "choice" in those environments. But modern humanity doesn't live in an uncivilized environment... the underlying biological drive/instinct is still there, but there's more nuance to relationships in civilized environments due to the effect of unnaturally-created social pressure putting individuals' biological urges in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:00 AM
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Counter-point to the OP: Why aren't women taught to have decent character and voluntarily choose to not take advantage of weak and desperate people... the same as men are expected to do... instead of being lying, manipulative, and selfish pieces of shit themselves? That aside, the guys who women can't control with sex often get rejected for men who can be, because a lot of modern women are fucking lazy, selfish and/or narcissistic and don't want and/or think they should have to put in the work b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:41 AM
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I come from an extremely stable, working-class traditional family, and I rarely heard the men I grew up with complain about any of that... but then, the women themselves weren't complaining to begin with... most of them were raised with pre-2nd wave feminism values, so they were more cognizant of policing themselves into being aware of what was necessary to first attract a decent man who acted right to begin with, and then made a conscious point to actively not only pick those decent men, but al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:08 AM
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The problem is that in 2022, women have shifted the goalposts so far in what they consider getting a "net-positive" from a male partner is generally creating a net-loss in return as a matter of what expectations to produce a "net positive", so they're not getting attention from men that are able/willing to give them a net positive. What's the point of having a wife/family if keeping her around means you have to works so much so she can "date up" that you're always too exhausted to fuck, and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:56 AM
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Amanda Bearse (who played Marcie) was a lesbian feminist in real life, but she was mostly a producer behind the scenes... she did some of the concept writing on some episodes in the latter seasons. The bulk of the writing is mostly attributed to Ron Leavitt and Michael Moye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:54 PM
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Al was a terrible husband. That was the whole joke. He insulted his family constantly, oogled young girls, hung out at Hooters, didn't discipline his children or help with the house chores. I'm not saying I didn't love the show - it was funny because it was so over the top. Cute. Now do one about how Peg was a shitty wife. Cuz she was, and that was the OTHER HALF of the Joke. She sat on the couch all day eating bon-bons (behavior which she at one point killed a celebrity fitness trainer with) wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:48 PM
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You ever see the show Married with Children? It's about a dumb, low-income man married to a bimbo; the man has no ambitious, hates his wife, lusts after younger women, can't express his emotions and doesn't know how to connect with his children. I've seen every single episode of that show many, many times over... you got a lot of this laughably wrong (especially the early seasons)-- about both Al and Peg. All of this comes through in the show... it's just expressed through a satirical lens of Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:12 AM
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Correction (and really the point of this thread): it's the only thing women are offering that men value. For the 1,120,340,340,304,356th time... MEN DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A WOMAN'S FUCKING CAREER THAT REALLY ONLY BENEFITS HER! that's just one example.... We constantly hear plenty about what men need to offer by default if they want a woman, but rarely, if ever, is anything said these days about what a woman should expect to have to make sure is handled by default so her man doesn't have to wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:43 AM
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I DON'T find her attractive-- relatively flat chest coupled with comparatively disproportionate huge ass, while her chosen personal style is to be a walking thirst-trap doesn't do it for me at all-- she's the low-key section of the Kim-K "stank/Alpha-widowed" category as far as I'm concerned, but at the same time I can recognize that there's plenty of other dudes that are into that. Long story short, take away her celebrity status and she's "basic-bitch" as fuck physically, and then her "boss-bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:36 AM
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Indeed.... very often, the only thing "educated" women have to talk about is their Major and their career... they have ZERO relationship skills. The last "educated career girl" I entertained the idea of dating rescheduled our first date 3 times because of work, and then threw a fit because I wasn't texting her non-stop... over the 3 weeks she pulled this crap. Sorry, if by the time you're in your late 30's you can't keep your shit straight to keep a fucking coffee date, you're not going to be ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:51 AM
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Men associate high N-count with a lack of sexual self-discipline that's necessary to remain faithful, and thus committed, to a long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:27 AM
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Those "out of wedlock" births also constitute the bulk of the next generation... they're not coming from MIT stock.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:23 AM
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Potentially including their wife digging at him herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:14 AM
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They're not avoiding women with higher education... they're avoiding women who lack feminine relationship skills because they spent all their time focusing solely on a career that only benefits her, and who generally care far too much about superficial material wealth and social status. It's the female version of being "socially inept" and not understanding what the opposite sex seeks in a relationship partner. Odd how educated women supposedly have "better reasoning skills", but can't figure th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:48 AM
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JLO could keep a man just fine, but she doesn't want to have to make "being a wife" higher than her dead last priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:51 AM
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Im shocked he’s dead and a bit sad. Maybe it's the whole Johnny Depp/AH thing playing out right now, but a little tiny piece of the back of my mind wouldn't be surprised if she killed him... not saying I think that's what happened, just wouldn't be surprised if we found that out in hindsight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:37 AM
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Kevin was mostly Trad-con, with a necessary degree of TRP considering the current cultural climate... and what he said was and is mostly spot on-- from top to bottom. Only thing I disagreed with him on is that he failed to recognize the inherent solipsism ingrained in female mentality. Every time he called a certain extreme high-end category of men "high value", women would latch onto those words and twist them to mean anything less than that ia "low value", i.e. anyone not top 10-20% is straigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:30 AM
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So when a man gets fucked over by a woman, it's his own damn fault for not knowing/picking better, or not being able to attract a better woman (even though it's supposedly his job to pursue/court the woman... not hers to pursue him... )... But when a woman gets fucked over by a man she agreed to be with of her own free will, it's his fault because that guy that she chose (again, of her own free will) is a deadbeat or an asshole.... nevermind that she might just be trash herself, which is why she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:45 AM
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Go onto some of the other subs parenting/relationships/twoxcrhomsomes etc and read about some of the shit some of those women put up with... a lot of the time a woman just ends up with an extra child when she gets married and starts a family. Why are they with those guys in the first place? Because they chose to fuck "Fun" or "Excitement" while ignoring "Character", or more likely, those women failed to attract better men to begin with. The latter takes work most women don't think they should ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:03 AM
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Old women notoriously hate and resent their husbands and rag on them when they're gone what are you on about. This is so common it's a well known stereotype and frequently joked about Also yes I have more or less had one firsthand say so 💀 *Shrug* My dad's been dead for almost 10 years, and my 76 year old mother still dotes on him (and I don't blame her... learned more about life from this man's example and had more respect for him than most men I've met that women would think are 10 times bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:10 PM
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the absolute mental gymnastics the word you're looking for is "hypocrisy".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:03 PM
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But dudes wanna sit on the couch and drink a beer or two watching TV for a few hours everyday when they have two young children at home. Tell women to stop fucking the "hot" shitty drunken douche-bag burnout men and getting knocked up with their kids in the first place. Also tell them to be more considerate of harder-working men so they might actually want something to do with her instead of avoiding getting with her to not have another "boss" to placate in his own home, where he's supposed to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:01 PM
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Most men have physically undemanding jobs. More so than any other period in history. OK, 'Boomer.... Until you've had the back of your neck physically lock up from stress due to having to meet deadlines or quotas, or figure out why two parts of an real-time, on-demand network isn't communicating like it's supposed to during business hours, making it so hundreds if not thousands of people in a corporate environment can't work, or having to deal with the office politics of someone trying to take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:00 PM
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It's not nearly as difficult as women make it out to be... they just want pity-attention. There's a lot of fathers that would be THRILLED to be able to do those things... they'd even THRIVE on it... but female biology says he has to go make ridiculous amounts of money instead... and then she bitches at him for leaving her with the kids to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:14 PM
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A man should never be idle. Going to the gym. Going to play pick up basketball, going to a game with his friends. Working on a project, or learning a skill, fixing shit around the house etc should be his free time. And what's the female version of this? She should be sewing, meal-prepping if not outright going to the store DAILY to prepare a freshly-made, healthy, home-cooked meal, etc. If he doesn't get to sit around and waste time playing video games or whatnot, then she doesn't get sit around…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:11 PM
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What she needs is a kick in the fucking ass. My mother stayed home with the kids (5 of them), and not only did she not "need a break", but she also did most (about 80%) of the "traditionally male" tasks (yardwork, etc.) around the house in addition to the entire "traditionally female role" because my father was working 80+ hours per week running a small business out of necessity to support that family... when he had spare time, he still did the things Mom physically couldn't do, or that required…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:19 PM
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Single mothers are on the way to becoming the majority. Tell women to stop getting knocked up by shitty, unreliable men during their "hoe phase" and spend their time becoming women worthy of a better man's attention and effort instead, and they'd stop being "single" mothers. As for the birthrate/population disparity situation, if foreigners attack me specifically, I'll go down fighting... I haven no problem with that. That aside, single mothers are raising the shit kids that are exacerbating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:26 AM
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But it’s common for women to say “I don’t want to get bulky” when told to lift weights, I just tell them women don't have the natural testosterone levels that men have... just don't do supplements... which fuck with their hormones. Stay away from that, and stick to higher reps while eating a normal diet, and they'll turn out more like Jillian Michaels than Scott Steiner in a wig.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:51 AM
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You can do far more in a year than people think without major chems (though protein supplements are common), but it's still WAY harder than just "lifting heavy things a few times a week". There's a saying in the fitness world: "Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym". The biggest thing women don't understand about men reaching peak physical condition is diet. Men can't just cut calories to get thin like women can... they still need significant amounts of protein to build muscle mass, as well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:43 AM
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*shrug* maybe it's because I had a silent-generation upbringing (i.e. back when relationships were far more stable than they are now, totally different mentality than what we have now)... where we were taught "if she wasn't with you before you made it, she doesn't deserve to be with you when you get there."-- regardless of where "there" was. Her being there while he was a "work in progress" (which wasn't even a thing back in the traditional era, as people GREW THE FUCK UP, and got their shit str…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:03 AM
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Funny.... women seem to want to do that with the 80% of men they overlook. That aside, why not? You have a better solution? Cuz... what we've been doing for the last 2-3 generations certainly isn't working... it's just getting worse. Yes, there will be some pain initially... but that pain will be FAR less than what it'll be when things get so bad that society collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:24 AM
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Low income men which want a traditional marriage, but she also has to work. Which has been the average household standard for 2-3 generatoiions now... two wokring class incomes is now required for a basic standard of living that used to only require a single working-class income int he past-- something that occurred largely due to how women entering the workforce en-mass affected various supply/demand dynamics (Including the stagnation of wages due to a flooded general labour market, as well as …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:08 AM
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it's still cheaper to not get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:02 AM
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Fitness chicks are literally the horniest girls you ever meet. It's the low-grade hormones in the supplements they take.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:59 AM
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Most people don't actually know what being a "traditional woman" actually means... even the OP's list is severely truncated/ambiguous. Couple points they missed on the female side: You get with him early in life (Which requires you GROW THE FUCK UP early in life-- not in your 30's after your "hoe phase"), and stick by him regardless of how far he gets or if he stumbles, until he gets back up on his feet (and if he doesn't you still honor the commitment you made--- traditional marriage means "in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:55 AM
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Given that we're going on the 3rd if not 4th generation of men who were told to fend for themselves when it came to female partners' level of traditional contribution while the women themselves are demanding larger and larger amounts of traditional contribution from men with every generation, if anything is being overlooked, it's the women doing the overlooking. While in some cases there can be some two-way crossover, Women as a whole seem to have the biggest disconnect when demanding highly tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:23 AM
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*shrug* relationships used to generally create a net-gain by both people because proactively putting into their relationships without having to be "tested" or have demands made of them.... this is literally the defining factor of the "Silent Generation" (the generation BEFORE The boomers-- mostly came of age during the 1950's)... you understood you each had a job to do, and you shut your damn mouth and did your damn job as a matter of having a sense of duty to your home and family (including and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:52 AM
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YOU GO, GURL!!! *snap snap* Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:48 AM
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And now men are contemplating the same thing... which is why modern women who want relationships but don't measure up as partners are wondering "where have all the good men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:40 AM
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right... she isn't getting any serious buyers because she's either overpriced, or too low value herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:34 AM
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The vast majority of children benefit greatly from having a father-- even kids that are primarily raised by single fathers on average do better than those primarily raised by single mothers.... this is a well-established fact. The average single-mother (exceptions can arguably be made for widows with children, foe example) doesn't deserve a male partner because she chose to risk making a shit man her kids' father (or she chose to be a shit female partner, and caused decent men to leave/avoid her…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:26 AM
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That doesn't seem to be the narrative coming from all these "strong independent women that don't need no man" who can't figure out "where all the good men went"... such as the post I quoted.... The dynamic is that men pursue who they want, while women generally choose to pick from the subset of the men who pursue them while not pursuing men themselves. If that subset of men is all dead-weight men... well... ain't-shit women get ain't-shit men. *shrug*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:03 AM
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You're argument is largely flawed because sub-par women with shitty genetics are still in the gene pool because the alpha males who would be dominant in "natural" (i.e. uncivilized) environments just go fuck all of them... so you your idea that we're removing ugly people is flawed (if that was the case, all the ugly people would've been eliminated before civilized society was even created). Alpha males would destroy the the stupid betas that tried to fight them head on, but they'd also destroy o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:58 PM
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Unless he ticks your other 27 boxes, then it's ok. Men don't have 27 other boxes to use to feed the rationalization hamster to justify overlooking the one box that says "don't be a whore".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:30 PM
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Yeah, all of that stuff + functional adult = hubby material. Intimidating to many women Because they know that man is fucking out of her league. This is the root of a long-standing PPD debate - men saying being treated like a fuckboi is a reward, when it’s actually not How is getting to do all the work of a husband to get, at best (but often far less), the same "fun" that the fuckboi got for free a reward? That's like a woman having to clean a man's entire house and do all his laundry while bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:22 PM
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They weren’t trying to impress you, so they got to it quicker And simultaneously lowered their value in the eyes of the men they wanted long-term stuff with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:39 PM
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Why in god’s name are you expecting “being a functional adult” to make women horny? Funny, I say the same thing about women who can't even manage to keep their own homes in decent shape or cook a meal that doesn't come from the frozen food sectio while expecting men to court them like it's the fucking 1950's and give them life-long commitment while working two jobs to support them and some dirtbag fuckboys bastard kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:27 PM
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Blah blah blah... good for you, but all of that means nothing. The bottom line is women who spout off lists like this are a liability to the type of guy who would "make her life better", which is why those types of women "don't see a guy who would make her life better"... they're proactively avoiding that type of woman's radar-- a "plot twist" that the OP failed to include in their post. FTR, worthwhile women's motivation is usually seeking to build a home and family (including a mutually-benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:46 PM
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They're choosing to put a ferrari pricetag on a body that might have a nice paint-job and maybe some aftermarket cosmetic parts, but performs like a busted 6th-owner pinto. Even average men don't want to date these women seriously, yet these women think that because a guy with some version of celebrity status flew her out to use her as a cumrag, that that's the type of guy she's "deserves" to have lock her down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:23 AM
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It also does no good to tell men to "man up" when the women they're "manning up" for have more in common with feral animals than maturely feminine human women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:38 AM
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There's plenty of masculine men... they've avoiding all the unfeminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:35 AM
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Great! tell the fat poor girl that he's what she deserves, and that's her "equal", and that they should get together... and if she has some other guys kids on top of that, tell her that she doesn't even deserve him, let alone better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:34 AM
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Stopping to think from a woman's point of view would give you that answer very quickly, and the reason you haven't here is because you aren't used to doing that, or simply don't care to do it. Men are well aware of the woman's point of view... particularly the fact that it lacks a provision for her failure to present what the men she wants are looking for. You can slap a ferrari price tag on a busted pinto, but you're not going to get very many serious buyers...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:30 AM
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For the last time, women would rather be alone than get with someone they're not very fond of. If you find yourself sidelined, it's either by choice, or because none of the women you meet are picking up what you're putting down, steady career or no. Great! Now tell women that men are judging them the exact same way... because I don't think they seem to get that men can use this same thought process when evaluating them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:17 AM
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I've said that myself plenty of times.... though I usually put it in different words... Usually something along the lines of: "If it means I have to work myself into an early grave and end up with a lower overall long-term quality of life in order to have those things, then yeah, I have no problem being alone... given modern women's expectations of relationships, I'll essentially still be alone while being involved with them anyway... if I cut her out of the picture, yeah, I'll be alone, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:23 AM
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What you're missing is that women are pretty content being alone, and whatever dude they're with has to be *better* than being alone, not just better than the next guy down the line. ... and also be willing to drag her much-lower-status, often physically unattractive, lacking in mature femininity, lazy-useless-in-the-context-of-a-relationship dead-weight behind him. People always forget that part. Or, to put it more simply, be willing to accept a net-loss in his own quality of life by having her…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:08 AM
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if there's no sex by the time the relationship's over then he's being used If she doesn't remain committed to him (even if a better option presents itself) after establishing such a relationship, then he's been being used the whole time, sex or not... the problem is he doesn't find this out until after she breaks her commitment. and if they have sex once... ... it was casual. Serial monogamy involves the understanding that an established monogamous relationships exists. That's not "casual" in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:41 PM
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I mean honestly my friends and I feel too dang old for casual sex. This highlights part of the problem.... This is often interpreted by men as "also too dang old [and tired] to put in the effort to deliver enjoyable sex you had in your youth..."... i.e. she's "fucked out". That asid,e casual sex is essentially sex without a committed relationship attached to it. One-night stands then never seeing each other again are casual sex. Hooking up with someone you're acquainted with/non-monogamous FWB s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:58 PM
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All of the conditions you listed were created by the "women's liberation movement" pushing females en-mass to change their behavior when dealing with men (including through legal systems, employment arenas, education, etc.), which in turn caused commitment-minded men to have to adjust their own partner-vetting criteria to something much more narrow than in the past to protect themselves. Short of a young woman doing the work to accurately place her own RMV and then train her brain to be sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:32 PM
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Serial monogamy is hypergamy set into practice-- it's essentially "monkey-branching" as a framework for forming relationships, and it's very bad for the men involved... who essentially are being used as "stepping stones". i.e. it's not a "casual relationship" persay, but has about as much value as such to a man seeking long-term-commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:23 PM
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A good/great woman will jump on your moving train, not derail it. Merely not derailing the train isn't the only issue... her wanting to jumping on his train and then just be useless dead weight he has to carry means she's still a problem.... and it's a problem men are increasingly avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:29 AM
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Except by targeting male behavior you're limiting male freedom of choice. FTR, this is a perfect example of how easily the male interest in all of this is overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:50 AM
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The solution is to put the fucking checks on female nature back into place, just like they still are on male nature.... society-wide cultural pressure for both sexes to act like civilized human beings is a requirement for civilization to function, period. You fail to understand that Hypergamy is RELATIVE... given your suggestion that we "train men out of repulsive behavior" (nevermind that we already did that... men were allegedly all boorish wife-beating shitlords, so we trained them to "be nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:48 AM
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Because they know it’s to their benefit in the short term. And then they bitch when the long-term result is worse than they started with. Of course the real culprits are social media and dating apps Social conditioning by focusing on controlling female group-think because they're more easily emotionally manipulated in the moment than men are was around LONG before social media and dating apps... commercial marketing/advertising as a whole has been vastly directed at females rather than males for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:06 AM
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I never said anything about forcing anyone to breed or not breed... just to stop allowing people to avoid the consequences of their own autonomously-made foolish choices by forcing "everyone else" to pick up the lack for their stupidity. Authority needs to be tied to responsibility/accountability... when it's not, that's when abuse happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:52 AM
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I'm confused... I consider WWII to be 'the most devastating war in human history", and the system we have now is already heavily laced with the "marxist theory" version of "socialism"-- i.e. the elite class is trying to transition a more free-market based capitalist society into a communist society where they control the state, which in turn controls the common masses that serve them while being allowed to all be "equally" poor as the "middle class" is eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:10 AM
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They're not using their life experience to manipulate allegedly naive younger women... they're avoiding the emotional damage (and potential accompanying practical baggage-- for ex: someone else's kids, significant debt, etc.), excessive entitlement/narcissistic attitudes, and lack of physical attractiveness (as well as fertility if they're still in it for kids of their own), found in older women... nevermind that an older woman that's single is often that way due to her own lack of relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:50 AM
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"Mixed results" (which can be refined to be better) is better than the system we have now that actively perpetuates if not exacerbates the problem. We can't keep going like we're going-- the welfare state grows exponentially (similar to a ponzi scheme). Eventually you're going to run out of everyone else's money, and when that happens, things collapse and get REALLY bad. The longer you wait, the worse the pain of having to address this problem is going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:36 AM
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Hey, I'm fine with giving legitimately poor kids free meals at school, etc. because their parents are fuck-ups. I'm not ok with footing the bill for people who refuse to stop being fuck-ups, and the kids clearly aren't going to learn how to not be fuck-ups because we keep letting their parents continue to be fuck-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:32 AM
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That's why general state-sponsored aid should be done away with as well (and is an example of how a check on female base-nature was removed to allow them to act more feral in what is supposed to be a civilized environment). Exceptions can be made for her being legitimately widowed, etc. but it's not the taxpayers' job to subsidize women's "hoe phase". Worse yet, the behavior that landed her in trouble very often ends up getting repeated by her female offspring... maybe dropping "mom" on her ass …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:44 PM
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I didn’t say anything about dating. Kinda have to date and get into relationships if you actually want a family. And no ones expecting you to work 80 hours and do 75% of household chores cmon man. Oh? Where are these women who are clamoring to get with and then stay committed to and actively engaged in a relationship with men with average jobs with average but respectable salary who work a standard 40hr-week? Cuz last I checked, women cheat on/leave that guy all the fucking time (the second they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:31 AM
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If men weren't here, neither would war. And neither would civilization. The fact that civilized society exists at all is a testament to the fact that men are actually quite good at settling conflict without "going to war".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:00 AM
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And how's he supposed to do that when modern women expect him to work 80+ hours/week so she can "date up" and he can "provide" her and the kids he never sees with luxury, and then come home and do 75% of the household tasks on top of that because expecting her to so much as put a fucking meal on the table with any regularity (let alone the "traditionally female" role in it's entirety) makes him a misogynistic wife-beating shitlord. FFS, the time commitments modern women expect men to make for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:07 AM
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The fact that humans are a sexually dimorphic species means that human biology in general is sexist due to evolutionary design. If women were the ones who were biologically meant to develop civilization (a 100% artificial, unnatural construct), they would have done so. Even in the current era, female "biology" is ultimately causing demographic winter among societies where females are "empowered".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:28 AM
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But of course, women will never be held accountable for their actions... So much for that bit about "responsibility must be returned to women in every culture". FTR, in the context of the above quote she actually meant "authority", not "responsibility"... she doesn't actually want women to bear responsibility for actually getting shit done, she just wants them to be the ones calling all the shots, realistic or not. The problem is that authority without having to bear responsibility is tyranny, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:07 AM
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How 'bout you just start with dismantling the entire welfare state and correcting the biased family court system while removing the preferential treatment females receive in the educational system/workforce and see how far that goes first before jumping straight to authoritarian government systems. Also, FYI, what your describing is what "marriage" is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:14 AM
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Who's being naive, Dwayne? The fact that you can only control yourself is the EXACT REASON you don't marry someone you need a pre-nup with to begin with. Remember when you marry, you're not just marrying the woman... you're also marrying the state... and the state is increasingly not giving a shit about pre-nups. As for general naivete... I can assure you the naive one isn't me... considering I come from a family with marital stability unheard of today that goes back roughly 100 years, and is pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:17 AM
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Pretty sure this thread is about pre-nups. If you simply must on insist on marriage, then your take-away from what I'm saying is that if you need a pre-nup, the woman isn't marriage-worthy to begin with. (I'll leave the other line out for the sake of good-faith consideration of your viewpoint). And I say that coming from an multi-generational, extremely stable, old-school upbringing/family marriage-wise... I know the value of what marriage is supposed to be very well... I also know from the sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:51 AM
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My siblings and myself were all born between 1959 and 1979.... my parents were Silent Generation (literally "came of age" during the mid- to late-1950's, early 60's), and my grandparents were Greatest Generation (i.e. became adults during the WW1/pre-Great Depression era). The men were all significantly involved fathers, and there was certainly a significantly positive masculine role-model in all of these homes. Were they giving the kids baths, and feeding them? No.... because they were the prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:34 AM
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Women don't want to date/end up leaving men who want to be the primary child-rearer. And that's before you consider that men have always been heavily involved in the raising of children despite being the primary financial provider (my silent-generation father sure was). A huge talking point these days about why younger people are so lost is how many kids are growing up in fatherless homes... That should tell you right there that fathers always had a significant presence in the upbringing of chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:25 AM
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I'm not talking about women... I'm talking about marriage as general concept/institution. There is absolutely nothing that fundamentally changes in the favor of a man by getting married... at best his life will remain the same as it is without marriage. "Good women" can very easily turn into bad ones at any time-- especially in the current cultural climate.... and "putting a ring on it" is often the point where such a shift starts to occur due to the change in power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:09 AM
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Any man who doesn't sign a prenuptial gets married in the first place is a idiot. Fixed that for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:54 AM
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TL;DR: If you need a pre-nup, you shouldn't be getting married in the first place... and in 2021 (soon to be 2022) you ALWAYS "need a pre-nup". Men gain nothing from getting married, period. Everything people say men gain from marriage comes from the devotion and investment of effort from the woman... not the concept of "marriage". If anything, marriage gives her incentive to STOP being engaged in/contributing to the relationship... if not leave the man for cash-and-prizes outright. If she can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:51 AM
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Except that unlike TRP, FDS doesn't include any remote aspect where they improve themselves in ways that men actually find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:53 AM
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invest heavily in terms of labor, time, and resources before physical relations are even on the table (even when they’ve been easy for other dudes in past) Past? They still do this even when the guy they see as LTR-material is "courting" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:23 AM
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Considering it says right in their own guidelines that they're philosophy is amoral and all about maximizing female benefit, no. They're SJW... Radical feminists/Female supremacists. They don't want husbands, they want male slaves... they want men to be excessively "traditional" (i.e. to the point that their long-term health suffers), without having to be traditional wives themselves themselves. Granted that's pretty much what all females want nowadays, FDS is just over-the-top bat-shit insane a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:20 AM
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*shrug* straw-men gonna straw-man. Truth doesn't give a shit if you think people are "misogynists" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:45 AM
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Look at you over here, pedestalizing pussy while civilized society goes extinct. The problem isn't that society let them out of their cage, it's that society is keeping men in theirs... things only work right when BOTH sexes are checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:36 AM
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Empowering women leads to declining/sub-replacement birthrates because "independent" women choose to have fewer/no children... this will ultimately eventually lead to demographic winter (i.e. societal collapse/extinction)... if it doesn't first lead to being overtaken by a more patriarchal state with a surplus birthrate (either through direct conquest, or through immigration/infiltration and installation of their own culture).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:56 PM
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Seems easier to let people do what they want and let the natural world wipe us out or sustain us than any one person or group of people. What you're missing is that the whole world over isn't a cultural monolith... the countries with empowered women are the ones that have the declining/sub-replacement birthrates (essentially symptoms of behavior sink-- incidentally, these are also the countries that are making all the techological advancements-- which is what allows women to become-- artifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:15 PM
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The problem with that argument is that the whole world over isn't a cultural monolith... the countries with empowered women have the declining/sub-replacement birthrates... more hard-line patriarchal countries are the ones with the surplus birthrates. Guess which one is going to carry on the human species.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:13 PM
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As for SJWs and far-leftists, they do not care about your relationship choices, it’s the underlying misogyny that bothers them. Tough titty for them... maybe they should get out of their little gender-studies bubbles and look at the real world. A lot of MGTOW aren't actually incels, but otherwise decent average, well-meaning men who were fairly relationship-minded and had reasonable standards for a partner... but are now displaying anger as a clap-back because they're sick of society as a whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:19 PM
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We need to come up with a new word for older people and don't understand the current state of the dating market because they haven't dated for over 2 generations. I'm fully in the trad-con camp philsophically but I also understand that dynamic requires serious societal pressure (complete with significant consequences) to keep both sexes' basic biological imperatives in check to actually be productive... I'm completely against marriage in the current cultural climate where females have been compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:17 AM
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If your demands are too excessive for what you're worth, you're not high value. There are a a lot of busted Pintos out there with Ferrari pricetags... Hell, even a brand new Pinto with a lot of aftermarket parts and a nice custom paint-job isn't going to draw a lot of interested buyers if it has a Ferrari pricetag. For those that can figure it out, the moral of this analogy is that your actual performance is what determines your worth as an LTR prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:31 AM
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Hm... take this: American *women*. We men didn't want this game, we just have to play it. And combine it with this: There's something quite dark and animalistic about it. ... it can be concluded that women have become less like civilized human beings, and more like untrustworthy feral animals.... i.e. not suitable to build stable relationships with...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:21 AM
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Women who "bend their rules" in this manner are undisciplined and untrustworthy and therefore not LTR worthy-- They are extremely low-value.... and that even applies to the guy she's bending the rules for... because who she chooses to "bend the rules" can shift to someone else on a whim. Think of it as another version of "if she'll cheat with you, she'll cheat on you". Or another analogy: if someone asks me "do you want someone who has to be with you, or do you want someone who wants to be with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:58 AM
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There is no such thing as a HVW who prioritizes excessive superficial wealth and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:55 AM
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https://dictionary.apa.org/behavioral-sink In most western (read: "feminized") cultures, both sexes are becoming more pathological... either through to reverting to primitive instincts (read: becoming more feral) due to a lack of societal pressure to remain "civilized", or due to necessity in response to such in order to facilitate individual survival within a hostile social environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:40 AM
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it certainly had to do with attractiveness... as in him not being attracted to women that lack feminine awareness, domestic apptitude, and all the other things that a woke career bitch would rail against.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:21 AM
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Funny... I know a lot of females with post-graduate degrees that are so detached from reality that they still think the wage gap is a real thing. Education level does not equate to overall intelligence nor ability to think in a rationally abstract sense. My father ran a small business that supported a family of 7 and built three houses in his lifetime (the last of which was purely for he and his wife's "golden years"... and by built, I mean with his own two hands, not just writing a check). Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:19 AM
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You both also grew up in a different cultural era than people who are in their 20's and 30's are now. That seems to be the biggest caveat that people forget when discussing these things... the moral compass of society as whole plays largely into people's general behavior and expectations (both good and bad)... and not just with relationships either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:31 AM
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Of course that would require someone to be the "home maker" (are you seeing where this goes lol). Doesn't necessarily even require that... it just requires people be able to cooperate and be reasonable about lifestyle/expenses/covering household tasks, etc. In 2021, It's women that don't seem capable of doing this (i.e. they haven't bothered to learn the tools to do this) until they hit "Sex-in-the-City fantasy" age... if even then... because they were told they didn't have to contribute to rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:22 AM
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You're assuming the majority of women in their 30's are suitable for long-term partnerships.... they might actually not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:10 AM
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Here's what most people don't get.... the middle class doesn't need to have anything "done for them", including against the "rich".... the way you "help" the middle class is to get the government/bureaucratic bullshit out of their fucking lives and let the economy settle on something that revolves around what the average middle-class household's income is, rather than all the artificial versions of "income" being injected into it by left-wing politicians inflating that cost of living beyond what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:56 AM
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OH he most certainly is, but despite his boorish public behavior, he's at least smart enough (likely due to his business background instead of being a career politician) to not appear completely disconnected from the middle-class and under, and doesn't say things as stupid as "women are the real victims of war", or "if you don't vote for me, you ain't blacK"... while accusing the opposition of things they're doing themselves... and (either through sheer incompetence, or purposefully through a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:39 AM
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The kids were sewing their own clothes, growing their own food etc. That's what traditional households do. Yes, because there's no version of "traditional" in between pre-industrialized, 1800's prairie-life, and the modern shitshow. I could explain to you more specifically what I consider to be "traditional", but you won't read it anyway. You want your cake, but you don't want to put the work into making a cake. How is that working for you? If "putting the work into having a woman make the cake"…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:23 AM
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The more women gain "independence" from men, the more they'll drive civilization to demographic winter. You're literally describing the early stages of a behavioral sink (which leads to extinction), and evidence of such is already appearing in the current "heavily feminized" cultural climate throughout western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:12 PM
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^This. It changed post Obama because he overstepped on a number of things while the GOP rolled over and played dead... then Trump came in and took a big fat shit on both the Democrats and GOP's front lawns... he won because he took the populist position (both the Democrats and the GOP are "elites" that are fucking over the middle-class... just from different ends). I vote as conservative as possible, and I've had a distaste for the GOP at least as far back as when John Boehner was Speaker of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:16 PM
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Introvert =/= shy/meek/etc. Introverted/extroverted has more to do with how they respond to interacting with people... the short-version is that the former's energy is drained quickly by doing so while the latter is, to a certain extent, energized by interacting with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:52 PM
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Did your co-worker teach them to actually BE wives and then convey that somehow publicly to show she's worth pursuing, or did he just teach them to have the demands of traditional women? Seriously, line one of his daughters up along side a dozen other women (for example, at a bar, or some public event), and tell me what he taught them to do so men knew, just by looking at the lot of them, that they're the ones worth putting effort into rather than having a big pile of hidden baggage (3 kids by 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:45 AM
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Female solipsism 101.... you're literally saying the same thing that I was, but failing to recognize that the men that are shunning women for their actual natural appearance are legitimately out of her natural league. The fake "natural" look you're describing (fake lashes, excessive hair treatments, medical treatments like microblading, etc.) is being done to get men that are out of their league-- it's an authentically natural 5 or 6 trying to make herself look like a "natural" 8 or 9 because a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:20 AM
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I was mostly referring to the Low-T/men wanting to stay home (read: not work) point someone else made... being a result of the push to "feminize" men (into the men women complain about being turned off by now) in the name of "equality". (read: backhanded way of saying "it's good for men too" so they can have their cake an eat it too.) To that end, someone else already said it, but I'll just reiterate that your example OF/Simp relationship is not a situation that's likely to last long-term... esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:19 AM
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From my POV, seems like you live in some sort of elitist bubble and don't have as much of a connection to the very shitty real world outside of that... either that or you have tunnel-vision when it comes to the couples that aren't doing well (or they're just hiding it well). I know a few married couples that are doing fine as well, as is most of my family (and in most of those relationships, the female came from my family... i.e. they actually had stable upbringing with decent working-class fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:01 AM
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Congratulations, you're one of the 10-20% women that wasn't a dumbass and actually responded to decency. Doesn't mean the rest did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:18 AM
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The women bitching that it's "high maintenance" to look "natural" care (literally the argument YOU made), and that's the crux of my point... If she has to do as much extra work to look "natural" as she does to look "over-done", then that's not "natural" for that woman... she's certainly not waking up out of bed having applied all the makeup and such and having her hair done, etc. to maintain that fake "natural" look... Proper hygiene and taking proper care of your skin and hair, etc, is somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:07 AM
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I would have had no problem courting a traditional woman. The problem is that they're doing a shit job of setting themselves apart from the chaff, and there certainly aren't "millions of traditional women" that are actually available around-- and most women that call themselves "traditional women" aren't actually so... they just have traditional demands--- most modern women don't seem to even understand that being a wife is as much of a responsibility as being a husband is, and as such, most don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:51 AM
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Anger and hate usually doesn't lead to good life outcomes, you have to accept whatever the world throws at you, and transform it into something positive in your life. Explain to me how allowing what I quoted into your life is in any way positive? As a man, how the fuck are you supposed to build a decent family with that shit? FFS, you don't turn a cancerous tumor into 'something positive"... you just cut it the fuck out and throw it away.... but god damn is there a lot of fucking cancerous tissu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:14 AM
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The men became bad because that's what the women responded to. Those that didn't want to become "bad" left the party and went to do something else instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:59 AM
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Most women I know are sending dirty snaps behind their husband’s back, chasing tingles or validation via SM, trying to fix their guy while also keeping orbiters, or they are leeching. All of this is why the guys that are angry are angry-- they're expected to pursue this garbage as life-long relationship partners? FUCK. THAT. NOISE. For reference to those reading that like to label TRP as "misogynistic", this is also why TRP became more of PUA/pump-and-dump forum than an "understanding committed …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:53 AM
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It’s simple - I’ve been in serious relationships (8 years and 4 years) with my own high body count. Having a history of casual sex doesn’t mean I can’t stay faithful to my partner in any way. Anecdotal evidence is just that... anecdotal. Just because you managed to remain faithful in relationships with those specific men, doesn't mean other women will also have the same capacity *with other men (*especially true when you take into account generational differences-- you can argue that an early Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:40 AM
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Courtship of females is for cultures where "being a wife" means providing traditional feminine value as a matter of having a sense of duty to a home and family after he "puts a ring on it" instead of bitching about "unpaid labor" and how oppressed they are while pulling the pin on the fat grenade.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:34 AM
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It's feminism's pushing of "equality" coming home to roost...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:06 AM
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They want a woman who can pay her own bills. ... and a large part of that is more that she understands how to stick to a budget and not live beyond her means rather than her making shit-tons of money to spend on an extravagant lifestyle. Put even more simply: It shows she at least has the tools to not stupidly spend him into the poor house or cause him to have to work himself into an early grave (nevermind not ever seeing his family) if he covers the expectation that he provides for a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:54 AM
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If her "natural look" is that high-maintenance, then it's not a "natural look" at all... it's just a different type of fake. Furthermore, their reason for maintaining that "high maintenance natural look" is often because their actual "natural" look isn't enough to punch significantly out of their league, which is the same reason women do the "over-done" look. Most guys that say they prefer a "natural look" aren't demanding a "natural" (authentic or fake) 8 or 9... they're usually looking to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:35 AM
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Certainly more rational than FDSers... at least RPer's include consideration for actually offering something that the opposite sex values... FDS openly states in their own guidelines in the sidebar of their reddit that it's an amoral strategy where their goal is to maximize their own benefit at the expense of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 05:59 AM
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I hate every kind of power or control that is put upon me, not only sexually but in life in general. I react opposed to every attempt to control me and I’m a very independent person, always have been. This is the real crux of your disconnect from the type of men you're looking for, and is more of a "you failing to provide what men you describe as 'neutral' want (who are actively avoiding you)" problem than a problem with men in general. Men (particularly those you describe as "neutral") subconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:38 AM
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Both are performing for the other... just with different roles to fill. Kinda like how a relationship in general is supposed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:29 AM
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Sounds like she watches too much overacted porn and was trying to emulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:12 AM
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FDS'ers are undesirable, narcissistic, man-hating nut-jobs that wouldn't be able to get a man who knows what the fuck he's doing in this regard as he'd view her as unworthy of the extensive amount of effort and responsibility it takes to put together and execute a scene properly... let alone a relationship in general. Personally, I see "aftercare" as the logical equivalent to providing preventative/routine physical training to an athlete-- which can apply to even just simple bondage situations..…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:11 AM
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Legit BDSM and kinksters take that shit seriously. It's about mutual sexual expression, a "dom/sub" dynamic is a full time job and has little to do with simply extolling pain to reclaim your masculinity ... Mutual trust is a big thing. A massive thing. Partaking in sexual practices deemed deviant/uncommon often meant requiring a partner with an element of trust, mutual respect, experience or maturity. This. Exactly this. There's a right way, and a wrong way to do it, and, at least in hetero-rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:31 AM
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Speaking of commercials, how about the infamous feminist-directed Gillette commercial that tried to paint the status-quo of men in general as bullies and sleazy womanizers (that's flat out untrue, and ultimately lost them about 8 billion dollars), then followed it up with a fattitude commercial targeting obese women after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:57 AM
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Pull out your phone and flip through facebook between sets instead of zoning off in her general direction. She'll hit you up fore a date because you're ignoring her. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:46 AM
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Men say they don’t like high maintenance women, lots of make up, plastic surgery, fake boobs, etc. Lol, they don’t like lots of bad make up, unnatural looking plastic surgery. What they respond to is very well done, natural looking, makeup and procedures which are actually extremely high maintenance. Men respond to those women for casual sex/"sugar" situations (that are often temporary), not genuine, life-long relationships, which those women aren't good for. The problem in the modern era is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:02 AM
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https://youtu.be/zQUO39j\_c\_k?t=113
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:45 AM
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The most attractive guy would be a man who has hot girls interested in him but he brushes them off! RP Translation: An attractive guy to a female is the one who goes against his own biological imperative (which is to seek a large quantity of reproductive access, including being polygamous if possible) so she can be completely immersed in hers (i.e. hypergamy-- to secure exclusive access to the resources of a male who's been vetted as relatively high-value by other females pre-validating him), wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:39 AM
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A lot of RP discussion is about more than just "incels not getting laid"... it's also about women lacking social pressure to keeping their basic urges in check the same as men have to (i.e. they're "independent"), making them unsuitable for long-term commitments (which are an "unnatural" construct) that are necessary for civilized society (which is also an "unnatural" construct) to function. "civilized society" is also the thing that makes "female independence" possible in the first place. The p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:07 AM
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What's logical about liking big tits? Indicates specific hormonal levels that translate into higher fertility. Beyond that, it's been shown that most men actually more commonly attracted to medium bust (large B- to C-cup) with more focus on lower waist-hip ratio, which is also an indicator of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:18 AM
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This is how I met my fiancee, who is Slovenian, sweet, kind, loyal, loving, chaste and a straight 9/10. No she wasn't... she's just better at lying/playing the chameleon, and she'll bail the second you have any sort of crisis... especially if you bring her back to the 'States (also, just a sidenote, Solvenia is high on the "Female empowerment" scale, and their birthrate is worse than that of the US.) Even if she wasn't lying, my argument still rings true... If 80% of all men do what you did, fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:43 AM
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Monogamy only means to have one sexual partner at a time. Serial monogamy means to engage in a succession of monogamous relationships. Serial Monogamy is literally the end-result of engaging in unchecked, baseline hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:06 AM
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Geezus, you're like 5 steps behind on every point of this discussion... Yes, a man made extension of Hypergamy. Hypergamy is the drive, serial monogamy is the action taken/strategy. Females in the wild engage in serial "monogamy"-- it's literally the act of mating ONLY with the highest value male available-- i.e. she's "monogamous" until a better mate presents themselves. What do you think is happening when two male lions fight, and the female lion leaves with the one who wasn't her mate previou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:51 AM
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As long as you recognize that it's the women objectifying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:57 AM
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You bitch that "black-pillers" and "incels" should all move to what you're implying are "oppressive third-world shitholes" (usually followed by naming a middle-eastern country), yet a simple google search of the birth rates in "feminized" countries vs. those "hard patriarchal" countries shows that the latter are the only ones reproducing enough to not only sustain their own native populations, but export them to other parts of the world, while the "feminized" countries are dying out and require …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:48 AM
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There are far more women going above and beyond in both the traditional sense and meeting the demands of the modern world ready to date than there are men. And the refusal to critique male behavior in the dating realm hurts men more than it hurts women. First of all, when they go "above and beyond," they bitch every second of the way, meaning they're not doing it as a matter of having genuine feminine character and a sense of duty like they're expecting men to have. This concept makes them far l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:17 AM
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Arranged marriage and serial monogamy were ideologies created by men. Marriage in general (i.e. a life-long pair-bonded social structure, aka permanent monogamy) is a human-made construct that allows for the advancement of civilization. Without it, men cut each other down instead of working together, and civilized society fails. Serial Monogamy (aka "monkey-branching") is literally the manifestation of hypergamy. Society always progresses forward not backwards. Until society advances beyond what…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:16 AM
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The common refrain with men who are unsuccessful with women is that they don't like the burdens of being a man. Incorrect. The common refrain with men who are "unsuccessful" with women is that they don't like having to bear the burdens of being a man for a woman who can't/won't bear the burdens of being a woman for him in return. They can't be bothered to have boundaries, they can't be bothered to stand their ground when pushed around, they can't be bothered to take responsibility and lead a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 09:23 AM
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Because hypergamy "floats" (i.e. it's relative...) and that's not a feasible long-term solution for society as a whole. If every guy went out tomorrow and got a master's degree and a job with a 150K/year salary, women would first bitch that they need to be paid the same as men because "muh equality", and then they'd all start gravitate to the men who make 250K/year, because making a "measly 150K/year" just isn't enough. (insert any characteristic you want for income, and there you go) And none o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 09:11 AM
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80-90% of women are the "wrong women". They're the ones failing to set themselves apart as something worth going after from the ones who aren't, and then failing to follow through on what they present themselves as to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:33 AM
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And now you know where MGTOW came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:29 AM
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The problem is they don't return the same themselves.... in ways that men actually value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:07 AM
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Considering most women’s standards are “treat me right and give a fuck” The problem is that's all they give in return... "A fuck"... as in "pussy", not "intimacy". Sorry, I have a hand for that, she needs to do better if she wants me to "treat her right, etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:30 AM
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It also drastically reduces your cost of living. I live in the upper midwest... I'm pulling in 66K base salary and clearing 10k/year of pure pocket cash (i.e. after all standard expenses plus out-of-pocket investments), which will go up to about 17K after my house is paid off in about 5-7 years (just short of 10 years early if a 30-year mortgage is standard)... for reference, when I bought my house, I only made about 40k/year. People in California, for example, are barely scraping by on 80k/year…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:10 AM
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According to 2018 IRS statistics (most recent year I could find quickly), it's actually 43K/year nationally (about 21.50/hour at 40hrs/week). That's the midpoint of all taxpayers-- i.e. if you list all ~150 million taxpayers in the US in order of income, then start from the bottom, count up 75 million spots (50% of 150M), and draw a line-- that line falls at 43k/year. Cost of living, on the other hand, varies WIDELY not just by the size of the city you live in, but also flatly by state. I'm clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:55 AM
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And each individual man is also not going to come in contact with 99.99999999% of them (give or take a few decimal places) due to geographical limitations (i.e. without social media/OLD/etc., those women might as well not exist), making this at best a strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:33 AM
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The important difference is men are still expected to do the pursuing to set himself apart from shitty men, while women sit there and make demands of various versions of traditional courtship without doing anything to set themselves apart from shitty women (something they used to actually did in the "traditional" era). And there's plenty of other double-standards where men don't win no matter what they do out there to go along with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:20 AM
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The reason I'm not [dating a fat guy] already is because I have priorities that rank higher than getting a boyfriend. THAT is the real reason women in your situation get treated like a masturbatory aids... because guys who see those women as a masturbatory aid are only looking for short-term/casual engagements-- i.e. they don't plan on being around long enough to care if you make them your last priority-- nor are they going to make you higher than that themselves. Men who want real relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:27 AM
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Men who will accept a fat woman sexually but not date her are not giving baseline acceptance. Right there in your own words, you're saying they're giving her baseline sexual acceptance... incels don't even get that. Being settled for would only be comparable as a beta if the woman made sure to let you know in multiple ways how much you repulse her until you hand her a stack of cash. That's literally the analogy I made. Twice. Well, technically what I said was that it's more like having to hand h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:15 AM
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Let's try this again: That's where KS is falling short on his shows.... on one hand, he chastises women who cut down the modern equivalent of these women's own upstanding working-class fathers that produced them as "not worthy" of modern women, but then also basically says a man is dog shit if he's not in the 85th percentile ALL earners (100K/year, or top 15% of EVERYONE, not just men) This is where he's sending a mixed message to women-- basically that "average" men are unacceptable... which ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:31 AM
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https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702/ref=sr\_1\_1?dchild=1&keywords=norah+vincent+self+made+man&qid=1634031279&sr=8-1
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:40 AM
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You completely missed the bigger picture....Ok, let me put it in simpler, 100% female-centric terms so you're solipsism can recognize it: Imagine being told you have to pay them for the quote-unquote "privilege" of them seeing you as a disposable masturbatory aid instead of them seeing you as an acceptable disposable masturbatory aid by default. The former is where the guys that complain about being "chosen after she's done fucking chad" are living mentally. If you'd prefer I put it in the more …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:31 AM
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Make it make sense. In comparison to being the "I'll take anything" option, would you prefer to be told "now that he's tired and worn out from making effort for the narcissistic, train-wreck, "hot" girls, he's willing to give you the privilege of cleaning his house, cooking his meals, and looking after the kids he had with some coked-out, gold-digging stripper, while he still openly and actively entertains other narcissistic, train-wreck females but makes you his like 6th or 7th priority at best…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:06 AM
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So every woman that expects a man to make all the first moves, take the lead, to be courted (all of which is her expecting him to prove he's not the jerk she already assumes he is), etc. is pulling the run out from under her own feet. Glad to hear it coming from a woman. A lot of the complaints from women in this subreddit are that men aren't excessively running themselves into the ground for them... the men are complaining that the women don't lift a fucking finger and bitch about every single …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:48 AM
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Talk to me when they actually manage to cause change at various levels of government, the sentiment becomes commonplace to a default level throughout society that it's taken seriously instead of stigmatizing them as weak for reporting it, and women actually get significantly punished when they abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:27 AM
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Sums up women pretty well...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:36 AM
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No one DOES anything about it either... Unless you count kicking him in the balls when he's down while telling him to "man up" and he "should've known better."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:06 AM
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The last girl I had a fling with openly expressed that she didn't like the fact that It was so much easier for me to get her off than it was for her to get me off. That aside, I approached sex from as far back as my teens with a mindset of "if you expect this person to forsake all others for you, you better know what the fuck you're doing". Too bad the vast majority of women don't take it upon themselves to do the same... instead, they think sex is "something only women give to men", or they whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:01 AM
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We're not talking about the "every-day, average commitment-minded guys" You missed my point. Every-day, average commitment-minded guys expect women to act like adults the same as "high value men" do. The problem is that society has warped to a point where it's considered some cracked version of "misogyny" for an average man to expect an emotionally stable, maturely feminine partner that doesn't have some fuckboy's kids (etc. etc.), and reject a woman if she doesn't meet even the most minimal of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:46 AM
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In 2021, any remote criticism of a female, no matter how rational or legitimately objective, is considered "hating women".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:24 AM
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In 2021, any remote criticism of a female, no matter how rational or legitimately objective, is "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:21 AM
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Women setting inconsistent boundaries = "looking out for herself", "knowing her worth", "being strong and independent" and "living her best life". Men making objective observations and then setting healthy, consistent boundaries = "emotionally damaged", "low self-image/self-esteem", "needs therepy". Why does this double-standard exist? Because it disqualifies a large number of women, and in 2021, any remote criticism of a female is "misogyny". Look, a man not wanting to marry the town bike who r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:05 AM
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Yet we should believe what you're saying over is that status quo over someone else who had the opposite experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:52 AM
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I cant imagine a woman saying to a man he is husband material as a point of rejection as that is what women want? The life women "see" with men isn't necessarily beneficial to the men... just to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:35 AM
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Initially it was his willingness to enter into a short term relationship and then go away. So he attracted you by being a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:24 AM
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The difference is that men are the ones who are expected to pursue the other.... we're supposed to put in work to "prove our commitment and attraction", while being sent the message that we're not actually wanted in a way that's meaningful to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:22 AM
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Men see women who put out quickly as promiscuous and for most men that subconsciously equates to lower in value. In 2021, after decades of "women's sexual liberation", the default assumption is that women are all already putting out. If it's not with us, that makes it more likely that you're leading us on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:20 AM
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The slut shaming is what stops women from having sex with a man they deem husband material quickly. Men have figured out that, in 2021, women aren't pure, period-- we generally assume that you've slept around in some capacity by default. As such, now men have to vet women for marriage at least as harshly as the women vet them (more harshly even... because men tend to get screwed much worse if the marriage doesn't work out). The ironic thing is that these women are losing the men they want to mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:16 AM
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It's only preferable to the men that are still paying attention to women who aren't good relationship partners. Guys who want relationships are often avoiding women who put on an air of promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:02 AM
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The problem is women call Billy Beta "husband material", not "Billy Beta".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:59 AM
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Anecdotal evidence means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:31 AM
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... By the guy who's their scout master. Ba-dum-tsh!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:28 AM
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I think it's more they value sex as the biggest measure of affection than well... Everything else. Basically in a discussion about love languages, their love language is "constant, enthusiastic sex but only with me" Why? I don't know. And frankly I don't care. I just know its not something Im willing to put up with. If our attitudes to sex are different then out the door i go. OMFG.... people in this sub are fucking dense... It's literally the core of the male biological imperative-- i.e. males …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:47 AM
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I also think men should be more willing to walk away from relationships with dynamics they find consistently unpleasant. They do... and then they get stigmatized as incels/creeps/misogynists for not capitulating to shitty women, and then they get "cancelled" if they tell other men they're not crazy for doing this... while the female suffers no consequence for being a shitty person herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:42 AM
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I mean I struggle why men think "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" is worse than "I want to fuck you for a night". In 2021, "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" from a woman translates into "I want to let you run yourself into the ground kissing my self-centered ass while I ignore you for the rest of my life... and I'm only going to do this after I fuck all the guys I'm more attracted to than you, possibly even after "accidentally" having had their kids that I expect you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:32 AM
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Because most women don't realise than it puts men off. If a woman is told she's wife material not Fwb material they look at it as a compliment. They don't realise men don't see it that way The word you're looking for to describe this is Solipsism.... in this context, it basically means "the inability to see the world through any perspective except that of one's own self-interest".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:12 AM
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Being the guy she expects to give her good sex after she's done making effort to give good sex to partners herself because she couldn't lock down the guy she actually wanted isn't a good thing. If she calls you "husband material" but isn't investing time/effort into you during her prime/when she says this, she's not wife material at all and should be written off permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:08 AM
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It's sad that victim blaming goes this far, he killed her yet 'she' is a 'damn psycho'. *shrug* women "victim blame" men all the time (divorce courts are full of this)... even when men do what they're told is the "right thing". Bald at 23 is an extremely unattractive thing to have, it shows extremely poor genetics. Gabby had no such hideous feature. Baldness in men has been loosely linked to higher testosterone levels. Meanwhile, Gabby was flat as a fucking board, but larger breasts were as link…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:53 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:42 AM
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There's considerable overlap between in the general masculinity characteristics of alpha and sigma, but the key difference is generally that the former gained their position from whatever overt social hierarchy is in place. The latter gained their position by either controlling, matching, or besting the former, while being completely unconcerned with, if not outright taking a shit on, the hierarchy that put the former in the position they're in. Superman is Alpha, Batman is Sigma. OT Darth Vader…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:53 AM
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Dread game = a man using the fact that he doesn't need a given woman and can cut her loose at any moment to compel her stay engaged in whatever level of relationship they have. Really only effective for short-term relationships where you know you're going to cut the girl loose... Generally doesn't lead to a healthy long-term relationships because you'll have to maintain that uneasy relational state permanently, and then make good on the "threat" if she starts acting up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:59 AM
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TRP also doesn't take into account that even if he "gets the girl", keeps frame to make her submissive, blah blah... a lot of these women never learned the to BE any kind of wife (just to have the demands of one), regardless of whether or not they're willing to "submit". To put it another way: teaching boys early on about female nature and how to look out for themselves, be masuciline, etc. is only half of the story... the other half is that girls aren't being taught how to be the feminine count…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:24 AM
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MGTOW/TRP doesn't go out and lobby colleges and politicians to stack the whole of society in their favor at the expense of the rest of society... particularly the opposite sex, but also including many of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:18 AM
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The wagon is already aimed straight for the cliff. Meanwhile, you guys are just spending all your time dancing like monkeys so you can put your dick in more worthless wet holes and then calling yourselves "alpha" instead of doing what an actual alpha would do and step in to correct the course of the wagon. The reason you think the guys that are trying to stop the wagon from going over the cliff are the ones derailing it is because you're so fucking blinded by pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:01 AM
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Gabby was WAY out of his league, How do you know that based on looks? She might have been such a damn psycho within the context of a relationship that he was the only guy she could actually get. Edit: I looked up a picture of them (had only seen headlines about the case before now)... yeah, they're definitely a reasonable looksmatch... i.e. both are overall average looking. You thinking she's out of his league is a clear case of a female over-estimating another female's appearance, or being over…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:36 AM
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maybe it's just me whining but most guys who try to date someone my age are guys who haven't matured or men significantly older than me with weird age fetishes that want someone they can be condensending too because of the age difference. The solution to your "women your age's" problems is in the boldfaced part. The common denominator in all of your "those women's" interactions with men (including whether or not those interactions happen) is you "those women your age". They're either failing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:24 AM
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I won’t be responding further to the whiny and entitled nonsense of how facially deformed men deserve blow jobs because they have a rare thing called a job. Just like how men that women are attracted to don't respond to morbidly obese, lazy, stuck up, uncooperative (if not overtly combative), untrustworthy, disloyal females who think they're deserving of life-long commitment servitude from a man because they have a rare thing called a vagina. There's no possibility of men and women in general "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:21 AM
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Why won’t they just have their dreams answered by getting being a relationship with a sexually repulsive guy? Never said they should... what I said was they should take a good, hard look in the mirror and gain some insight into why they, themselves, are repulsive to the guys they want but aren't getting... but once again, you proved my point right here that "bitches don't fucking listen".... Men don’t listen to women either Sure we do. That's why a lot of these women can't get the men they want.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:22 AM
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He'll come across that away when you realise he's speaking from the lens of how to obtain the super high net worth men many women want to obtain. Hate to tell you this, but even every-day, average commitment-minded guys expect the same general mature female character traits that KS says "high value" men expect, sans maybe extreme physical attractiveness-- if anything, average guys have to be that much more careful, given a loss will affect them far more. Even if he doesn't frame it that way hims…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:55 AM
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I had a girl I was dating make out with another girl and then come over and brag to me about it. She became a hard no after that. Bottom line: Entertaining someone else is still entertaining someone else even if they're the same sex. There was a point where I would've accepted it only if I was also involved, but even that's out now as in the current era, women would just use that as a way to argue about bringing another dude into the relationship as a matter of "fairness".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:01 AM
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He had to pay for the Yacht.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:16 AM
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Kevin Samuels is most definitely trad-con... but the advice he gives the women that call into his show also isn't wrong, and has very deep shades of red-pill in it. Even average men wouldn't, and shouldn't, put up with these type of women, regardless of what race they are. Really what Trad-con is supposed to be is just the red-pill being ingrained in society-- In traditional times, females policed themselves so men don't have to waste their time/energy needlessly dealing with overgrown children …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:43 AM
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And how many of these men have they committed to/married? How many of these men that are hitting on them are just trying to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:21 AM
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Yet you still talk about men you "Date"... as in current tense... as in your fucking other dudes behind his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:18 AM
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*shrug* That's just basic demographics. A given culture that can't/won't maintain it's own numbers (because "empowered" women choose not to have kids) dies out even without outside interference... It's just more likely that they get replaced/overtaken by a different culture that actually has a growing population before that happens. Real-world example: Japan's government is projecting that their population will decline by 30% (drop of ~38 Million) by the 2060's (only 2 generations away) because …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:44 AM
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So what if they don’t get that consideration? Being “clean cut” and “stable” sounds like basic fucking adulting and you don’t deserve top tier women for being an adult When I say "clean cut and stable", I'm talking about the difference between the deadbeats women are complaining about being stuck with vs. the men that are avoiding them because the women are garbage. Women don't deserve decent, emotionally available/stable, clean-cut (i.e. no practical baggage) men just because they were born wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:20 AM
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*points at women complaining that men only want sex, and/or that they can't "find a good man"*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:04 AM
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And those parts of the world are the ones actually having enough kids to not only sustain their own numbers, but actually generate a surplus that end up being exported to other countries... right along with the culture that you're complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:00 AM
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Sex =/= intimacy. FFS, If I just want to get off, I have a hand for that... don't need a woman at all, and my hand comes with far less cost, baggage, risk, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:30 PM
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Men have way more options than women on the very fact that women are way less likely to use a man for sex. Women "use" men for everything else.... The only difference is society blames men for allowing themselves to be used, and then kicks him in the balls when he's down while telling him to man up and set better boundaries. Giving the same level of criticism to a woman who got used for sex is considered "misogyny". Men can afford, and DO fuck around for much longer period. Only when women agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:23 PM
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Of course from the men who picked them as partners. By that logic no one should ever help a woman whose male partner beats the shit out of her, because "she picked him as her partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:14 PM
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Child support is for things like school, clothing, keeping a roof over the kids' heads, etc. Then it should be put into a trust where it's use can be tracked by both parties, not delivered to the mother without follow-up surveillance, and should also be payable by receipts acquired while providing for the child while they're in the father's care. But women won't agree to that, because then they'd find out that they don't need what they're getting--- this is what makes it "stealth alimony"... jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:12 PM
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Hypothetically speaking, something being "the #1 threat to a woman's retirement" might mean that 10% of women can't retire because of that thing, while every other reason they can't retire only affects 9% or fewer of them. That certainly doesn't mean the majority of women are worse off after the divorce. It also doesn't jive with women unilaterally initiating divorces up to 9 times more often than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:06 PM
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My name is Luca. I live on the 2nd floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:57 PM
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tell men to marry and date a woman who physically repulses them but “she’d make a great mother.” Men often don't even get that much consideration (i.e. "repulsive, but she'd make a great mother" is a step UP from what a lot of guys get thrown at them.... a lot of the time, clean-cut, stable men with their shit together have people's worst possible train-wreck female acquaintances thrown at them (I'm talking legit cluster-B disorders, substance abuse issues, 3 kids by 3 different dirt-bag baby-da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:43 PM
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The vast majority of women around the world do not have access to birth control or abortions. Abstinence is costs nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:47 AM
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Except they still want those guys without having to put the effort into getting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:43 AM
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And yet a very large portion of women fail to develop other characteristics that are actually attractive to men in order to get "more than sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:41 AM
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They stated it hypebolically.... it's usually something more along the lines of "Where have all the good men gone?" or "Why aren't guys approaching me anymore?" or "why don't guys ask women out on dates anymore?", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:40 AM
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Why do you believe friends hand out validation to women without it being earned? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:31 AM
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And that bitch was RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:27 AM
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If you want to expand the conversation to include egalitarianism throughout all of society (not just relationships) then your culture is actually worse off than a lot of other countries... most western countries have sub-replacement birthrates, but Finland's is pretty far towards the bottom end (i.e. your native population is aging/dying out faster than most others).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:13 AM
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And? RP is about doing what's beneficial for men while still considering women's interest in relationships (unlike FDS, which only cares about female interests at the expense of the rest of society-- which they even state right in their own guidelines). There's plenty of men who engage in this concept without engaging in casual sex. With that in mind, I've openly said numerous times... that RP-discussions have shifted from being accepting of monogamy to being about casual sex now, because monoga…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:32 AM
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Maybe women en-mass should stop demanding courtship while offering little to nothing in return. Maybe women should stop bitching about "unpaid labor" in the home. Maybe women should stop bitching about not being able to find men to "date up" to. Maybe women should stop demanding men make massive amounts of effort when they want to date them, but give it up for free for dudes they don't. And maybe men need to learn the difference between lust and love. Pot. Kettle. Black. And they already do... t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:28 AM
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What you're doing is screening out a lot of men who are genuinely looking for long-term relationships by failing their vetting criteria, and then saying "I don't care about them anyway" instead of engaging in honest self-reflection. I.e. Typical FDS garbage. Just admit it-- what you really want is a guy who's going to commit that's going to be ok with you fucking other dudes behind his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:20 AM
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Most men who don't want families also aren't looking for long-term committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:17 AM
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I've known plenty... and the vast majority of them were either the stereotypical "where have all the good men gone?" type, or had extremely unhappy, tired, and over-worked husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:16 AM
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And women tell men those aren't the men they want all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:14 AM
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Of course monogamy is the antithesis of RP. No, it's not. The current cultural climate/state of female behavior is the anti-thesis of monogamy, so RP shifted towards PUA/casual sex because that's all that the current climate provides for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:23 AM
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Saying you want a loving, caring, exclusive relationship while worrying only about whether you're fucking is hypocritical For men, the former includes the latter. If the message you're sending is that you're not DTF him specifically, then any flirting you're doing is just you trying to jerk him around for free shit while you fuck other dudes, not "holding out because he has relationship value".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:21 AM
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Men seek exclusive reproductive access from women. You fucking non-committal dudes without requiring investment from them, but not him, sends the message that not only are you not a good candidate for exclusivity, but also that you're exclusively sexually attracted to dirtbag, "undatable" men, and only see him as a utility. In 2021, men aren't going to spend time, money, effort, etc. to find out what your intentions are... they're going to go on the inconsistency in the "brand" you're putting ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:16 AM
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Then why does TRP emphasize only what gets men sex, rather than relationships? Because they recognize that the current cultural climate/state of female behavior is not suitable for men to build families in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:03 AM
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In nature's design stronger tribe attacks the weaker tribe. Enslaves or kills all men and male children and takes good women as sex slaves. The best guy is not anymore the one with the perfect smile, it's the guy who is really good at killing people. ^This. In an uncivilized environment (which is what both sexes' biological imperative is designed to handle), males don't go out and hunt down more meat, or acquire more pelts, or a bigger cave/den, or groom themselves in a "trendy" way (heh, imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:51 AM
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You can get a house and children without a man, though. From a biological imperative standpoint, a woman buying her own house is like a man bragging about being a stud because he paid a hooker to fuck him. Historically, shaming has been restricted to the women who participate. And it was primarily done by other females, who understood that men don't commit to loose women. I'm not confident that anyone looking to reintroduce slut shaming is also going to hold men to the same standard They already…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:40 AM
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Men are biologically supposed to fuck lots of women - due to seed spreading ability. You interpreted this wrong. The male biological imperative is to seek as much exclusive reproductive access as possible (including from potentially multiple females) so that it's only HIS SEED that's being provided for by him. This concept is, at times, referred to as the "dominance instinct"... aka the male counterpart to "hypergamy" in females). If she's fucking other dudes (i.e. she's promiscuous), that incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:28 AM
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The "decline" is in reference to civilized society (which a lot of these so-called "alpha males" women want so much depend on to maintain their status), for which some version of a long-term pair-bonding social structures that checks BOTH sexes' base biological nature are necessary to maintain, which at best will lead to demographic winter (already happening in most feminized countries), which in turn results in the collapse of the currently-overinflated welfare states, and then in turn the econ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:03 AM
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I don't buy that as being the standard practice for two seconds. In most of the of the western world women abuse those gestures for free shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:13 AM
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The problem is that men are still taught this chivalry bullshit, without being told that what women find attractive is largely based on things he can't control, and to a large extent treating them like they don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:02 AM
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See, I don't think most women actually understand this... mainly due to the double-standard I posted above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:39 AM
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Yes the one that earns more pays more but they still have their spending money which is also usually more. Then the one who pays less does more work around the house, while the one who pays more does less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:40 PM
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How is old good info? Everything in it is fake, contrived and curated. Just like dealing with women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:55 AM
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Seriously do you, in all honesty, think a 13 year old and a 21 year old of any gender are comparable in maturity physically, mentally and emotionally? Seriously? I've met quite a few women in their 30's and 40's that act exactly like teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:54 AM
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I think it's more telling that your first reaction is to care what teenage girls are taught, but you lambast the experiences of grown men who weren't taught the truth about women while they were teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:52 AM
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Instagram doesn't make girls feel bad about themselves... the behavior of women posting on Iinstagram makes teenage girls feel bad about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:45 AM
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I see, so when men avoid "courting" women and don't make any effort until she's shown a significant amount of voluntary, overt interest in order to not be taken advantage of by women it's "misogyny/entitlement"... but when women bitch that men aren't approaching them to "prove his interest", including when she hasn't done anything to make herself something he wants to approach, that's "strategy". You can't make this kind of ridiculousness up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:34 AM
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Translation:I did all this work front-loading my appearance as something I'm not because I'm trying to date way out of my league, so he needs to pay like he's out of my league. Unless she's throwing away that brand-new smashbox, dress, heels, all the hair products, etc. after every date, her expense is a actually a tiny-fraction of what they're claiming it is.... or she should be dumped just on the basis that she's galactically stupid with money. What she means by "making men pay" is that she ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:06 AM
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On the other hand, if someone picks a fight with someone whose far larger than they are, then it would do them some good to get pounded into the ground so they learn some healthy humility. That includes women who constantly choose to date men that beat the shit out of them over and over again. At some point it stops being about the men, and starts being about her poor choices/lack of diligence in selecting emotionally stable, non-abusive mates. That same logic can be drawn out into other areas a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:52 AM
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Yet society-at-large isn't lambasting women for expecting to be approached being a form of "entitlement".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:48 AM
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We have huge monopolies running rampant and there is not enough fairness to make competition between the little guy and big guy feasible anymore. And socialist policies will make that even worse...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:26 AM
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And then what? What are you going to do when the state owns everything, and only distributes the bare minimum of what you "need" (by their standards, not yours), while disallowing you any remote amount of upward financial mobility? You get rid of some version of capitalism, everyone ends up equally poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:25 AM
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They'll be replaced by immigrants from countries with more hard-patriarchal cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:22 AM
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FYI, when a husband gets sick, the money typically dries up. Men don't usually get so deathly ill to the point that they physically can't work anymore until after they're retired, so the money, other than passive investments, SS and maybe life insurance, has already dried up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:10 AM
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When a woman expects to date up (or even just across) financially, she's expecting him to be the provider.... even if the both incomes involved are in the elite, to-tier categories (i.e. a woman making 100K/year that expects a man to make 250K/year+ is expecting him to be the provider... even though she can provide for herself).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:52 AM
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When the fuse was lit is arguable, but things went off the rails sometime during 2nd wave feminism when women stopped being wives while not only demanding men still be the same husbands they always were, but also take on more of the role she dropped within the family/relationship. The "free love" era (i.e. the birth of hookup-culture) during that same era and subsequent moving of the goalposts by women also contrinbuted to the decline. What we have now is the expectation of straight-up tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:49 AM
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But these are the issues that arise as we become a more fair/equitable society. It'll collapse before it reaches that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:47 AM
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Same thing for women who bitch that they're not being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:32 AM
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The counter argument people are making is that the difference between being a "Nice guytm" and a "Man who is nice" is whether or not the woman is attracted to the man in question. This is basically the same concept as when "men approaching women" is discussed... it's harassment by a creep when she's not attracted to him vs. welcome attention from a "man who's nice" when she is. The opposing argument to that is supporting a no-true-scotsman fallacy... i.e. if he's nice and she rejects him, it's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:27 AM
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Sounds like women who go on tiktok and bitch that they're not being approached by men simply because they exist. Talk about entitlement...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:16 AM
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if he doesn’t stand up for himself or others, Standing up for himself is one thing, but a lot of the time standing up for others (including women) is the WRONG thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:12 AM
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Translation: Women want him to provide the positive aspects of being traditionally masculine, and self-absorbed modern "independence" for themselves. Or, in more generic terms, women want men to take all the responsibility, while they get half or more of the authority. They're looking for the fathers they didn't have, but think it's acceptable to act like bratty rebellious teenagers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:05 AM
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Men having a spine is what ends up disqualifying a significant portion of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:45 AM
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Because women don't fix their male friends up with women that they think will be good for those men... they only look at how the men will benefit the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:40 AM
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Good, then start policing yourselves like women used to, and learn how to separate yorurselves from the shitty women who do fit that narrative so the men know who to date. While you're doing that, understand that Gen-Z men have been taught to be self-sufficient and have had the idea of "equality" rammed down their throats since birth (i.e. they're going to look at you like you have a third ear growing out of your forehead if you try to push "traditional" values on them-- your feminist fore-mothe…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 02:29 PM
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Church is certainly no guarantee... a lot of them drank the feminist Kool-aid and a lot those women have the same problems as other modern women, but with an undeserved sense of self-righteousness on top of it.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 02:24 PM
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The problem is a lot of those "college educated" women have degrees in useless subjects and are actually dumb as a post in anything that wasn't what they studied... and a lot of those "uneducated men" are making more in trades (or to a lesser extent jobs with harsh working conditions) and have less (or no) debt than those "college educated" women with shitty degrees who are making 28K/year as a barista at Starbucks. Perfect example: One of my ex-GFs moved from the upper midwest to Florida and go…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 02:16 PM
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Easy to dodge the bullet when they shoot themselves in the foot....
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 01:31 PM
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FYI: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/purplepilldebate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:04 PM
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Yes and no. Won't make things worse, but it's not a substitute for actually learning basic fundamentals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:01 PM
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Or maybe look up a fucking blowjob tutorial or something. Take some initiative to learn how to be a competent lover if you expect a man to forsake all others for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:29 PM
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Do men vibrate or curve in ways that sex-toys do? No? Then they're just as damaging as porn is because those functions condition the woman's body to only respond to that stimuli, just like the argument against porn says it does to men. The difference is purely about the narrative behind each... men expecting women to do more than just show up with a pussy as a result of being able to replace her lack of effort with his own hand is misogyny, but men being expected to be ok with her using on an ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:25 PM
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And most PUA's will also tell you not to have long-term relationships/families because they're not worth the hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:37 AM
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In the current culture, they're also not balanced. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:24 AM
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Rape culture does not exist. In no part of civilized society is rape fundamentally glorified or encouraged. What you're demanding is that legitimately innocent men be put in prison with no trial because you hate men and think they're all rapists that got away with it. Tell me, what are women going to blame all their problems and failures on after all the men are locked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:24 AM
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That's sort of what the theory says... The part you're missing is that the biology that determines r/K selection only functions in terms of "physical survival"... it doesn't recognize the concept of "poor" or "rich"... or whether or not people are "obese" or "emaciated"... it's only sophisticated enough to recognize "surviving" vs. "not surviving". r-selection is their biology essentially going into a version of panic mode because it thinks something is making the species go extinct and so their…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:49 PM
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Then one way you end up with demographic winter, and your civilization collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:48 AM
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You have it backwards... women ignore loyalty/stability until they're stuck having to raise a kid by themselves because they chose "bad boy". In a modern era where female dating habits are largely driven by superficial emotional spikes, "loyal and stable" = "boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:46 AM
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You're thinking of suicide. He said Homicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:30 AM
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r/K selection, particularly in girls, is significantly based on a matter of how their biology reads their pre-pubescent developmental environment-- it doesn't take into account human-made conceptual constructs like laws, morals, culture, philosophy, technology, etc. Basically, the theory is if their biological father's pheromones aren't regularly present in their early home-environment, their biology reads that as they're living in an uncivilized environment where "all the men are dying out, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:01 AM
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Bishop Bullwinkle's gotcha back!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiHRSBAMwU
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:14 AM
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I do too. They're all over 50, if not in their 60's, and came from a different cultural climate than younger people did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:00 AM
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I'm a woman lol. I'd say what the other poster said still applies. I mean I'd like to meet men organically, through work or school etc. Great, so start approaching men. In the meantime, here's some relevant humor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtblV6iNZzw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:33 AM
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First off, none of what you described this woman as says anything about what type of relationship partner she's going to actively be (For one example: just because she makes her own money doesn't guarantee she's not some version of a gold-digger)... so I most likely would've just passed over her to begin with. Some of those things you listed might actually cause her to be an absolute nightmare to deal with in a relationship scenario. That aside, speaking in general, maybe a decade or two ago I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:17 AM
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OP that would mean that person has a nonexistent support network if that's how they behave from a bit of attention. Which is what most men have-- a non-existant support network... including many that are actually in relationships, or even those that have active social lives. Doesn't mean the people he's interacting with are supportive, or looking out for his interests. Once you understand that, and then combine it with the idea of "not seeking external validation", starts to subconsciously trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:03 AM
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Uh...an intelligent person that can be value to you in your business and life endeavors than a moron with a pair of tits? Yes, because that's all there is in the world: women that are either have MBA's, or brain-dead morons with tits. Everything else you said doesn't require an MBA, and a woman without an MBA is more likely to to have time to actually be present in a relationship/family/etc. Sorry, having to schedule 45 minutes for sex that will almost exclusively be about her at 1PM on a Tuesda…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:14 AM
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I'm coming at you as a man who's sick of being told I have to be a soulless stone-statue that's supposed to run himself into the ground because the typical modern women has daddy issues (and that goes all the way up to high-end professionals), while you make excuses for them acting like spoiled god-damn children. Blah blah blah, married man... I have 2 women who would marry me tomorrow if I gave the word, and third who would leave the man she's with now to do the same. Giving a woman a governmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:31 AM
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So poor people are only poor because they are bad with money ? No other inherent or situational issues ? No, what I said was "very often" (as in most, not all) people who don't have money are often that way because they suck with money "and refuse to learn to be better with money."... which sadly in a lot of cases might be something as simple as "get a job, show up and do the job to keep money coming in steadily, and don't spend money on shit you don't fucking need until you've built up an emerg…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:20 AM
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Go read my last post again, as well as listen to the video I linked a few posts back (which shows it's not just me saying this)... this time without your Rollo-Tomassi-colored glasses. The bottom line is this: Modern women don't have neither the tools, nor the "training" to "magically" turn into decent, trustworthy, reliable, loyal WIVES (which entails much more than just not being a shitty lover or "dialing back the bullshit") just because a man is "more alpha, bro!" (i.e. even if the women act…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:11 AM
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Yes, and some women think a man not immediately stopping mid-thrust if she tells him to is "rape". Some women also think her making shitty decisions to sleep with shitty men while she's voluntarily drunk makes those shitty men rapists. (in no other area of society does anyone even remotely think that being intoxicated relieves/excuses someone of their own agency). Some people think a man being blacked out (unconscious) after drinking, and having a girl who was also drinking voluntarily pull his …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:59 PM
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I had casual sex available for most of my adult life if I really wanted it... but I just want to get off, I have a hand for that. The real problem was finding women worth pursuing to build family with. I went PIV celibate at 22 unless the woman voluntarily showed she understood what it meant to be a wife... intent being to avoid having a psycho for a baby-mama that would blow up the family on a whim and fuck up my unborn children. I don't want kids anymore, still don't care about casual sex. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:28 PM
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People who worry about money very often don't have money because they suck with money and aren't willing to learn to be better with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:26 PM
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Do a little research of your own man... "Female empowerment" is relatively close to what it is in the west in these countries, and their birthrates are all either already in the shitter, or in the case of Saudi Arabia (which yes, you're correct, they only more recently started gaining "independence"), well on the way to being in the shitter (their birthrates are still currently slightly above replacement level, but they've dropped by 2.5-3% over each of the last 4 years, an overall drop of over …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:02 AM
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What the fuck do I want with a woman who has an MBA that's gonna be spending all her time on her career? Better off without her... Can't have/build a healthy relationship/marriage/family/sex-life with someone who's never there because she's married to her job. If I'm gonna be alone all the time anyway, might as well just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:48 AM
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Most of western society doesn't force women to be responsible for the bad choices they make now that they have "agency".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:33 AM
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The academic consensus is that one’s number of lifetime partners is a strong predictor of infidelity Beyond gender-relations concept, the general consensus among psychologists is that past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior... an idea that runs parallel to this concept-- if she was promiscuous before she got into a relationship, she'll be promiscuous after she gets into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:29 AM
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Both are significantly feminized despite being Saudi Arabia being predominantly muslim, and the only thing that's still "traditional" about eastern europe is women might have "traditional demands" for men... the women themselves expect to be allowed to sink to "modern" standards for what behavior expected of them. As I said in the last post, "female nature" isn't new... what's "new" now is the cultural shift away from society/women themselves holding a large portion of "female nature" in check i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:10 AM
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You're only talking about the current era. In 2021, Most of the world (including many middle-eastern, etc. countries) have been "feminized" to the point that the women have regressed significantly, many to a self-deprecating level. I'm talking about now vs. past generations-- raised with "traditional" values vs. "modern" values. Regardless of all that, I had no problem passing "shit tests" just fine. I pulled strippers while they were working in my early 20's (there are few women in a more preda…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:57 PM
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Shrinking in population is not the same as dying, and birth rates have been overwhelmingly proves to be an economical issue, not cultural. If you have to import people from other foreign cultures to maintain your own population because your own native citizenry is failing to replace its own numbers, you're culture is shifting towards that foreign culture, and away from the one that created the declining birthrate... if you prefer to call it "fading away and being replaced" instead of "dying", fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:08 AM
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Like i said.... My grandparents (both sets) were from the early 1900's, parents/aunts/uncles were Silent Generation (pre-boomer), all my siblings were 11-21 years older than me (boomers/early gen-X). I'm late Gen-X, nieces/nephews are mostly millenials... i.e. I've had over 100 years worth of direct contact with real-world source material spanning 5+ cultural generations to draw from and compare. Tell me again what I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:59 AM
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It would simply be a matter of deciding which of us wants to do which. A very fair point. Hey, here's a novel Idea-- how about she handles kitchen and the bathroom, and he takes care of the yard and gutters? Worked pretty well for pretty much everyone in my family... Or is that too "oppressive" for most women (maybe not you specifically) because it's too close to those dreaded "misogynistic traditional gender roles"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:15 AM
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Nice job parroting the stuff you heard RP content creators say throughout the first 2 paragraphs of your post without really understanding any of it, nor gauging that compared to the cultural climate of past generations. My sources were literally people from that era, in real life. I'm not saying female nature (nor male nature) didn't exist... it certainly did, but their behavior started much less ridiculous compared to what it is now... i.e. their average "difficulty level" was much more reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 08:45 AM
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Because she expects courtship before the marriage, and alimony after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:58 PM
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And women expect men to be some ridiculous amalgamation of Christian Grey, James Bond, some generic Outlaw Biker/Rock star, Geoffrey from Fresh Prince, and Ward Cleaver, all wrapped up in a professional athlete's body... when exactly do these men have time to maintain outside friendships? FFS, all the runaround women put on men nowadays makes those women their only social connection by default. And for the millionth time, most men don't actually give a shit if women make money or not... the trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:56 PM
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Funny, most of my family was either stay-at-home or at most part-time working wives (after the kids were all in school), and NONE of them or their men had any of the any of the problems you describe here... What you're describing isn't a "traditional" wife, they're "trophy" wives, and yes, they're a complete and utter waste of time. They're vapid and superficial... they're the type that spent all their whole lives focusing entirely on their appearance, so that's the only thing they value themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:10 PM
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Yeah, as someone who had Greatest Generation (early 1900's, pre-WW1/Great Depression) grandparents, and Silent Generation (pre-boomer era/born before WW2 ended) parents, I can say with certainty that the women have changed dramatically... in a lot of ways it's like night and day... The reason I know the women during the "traditional" era managed themselves si because I actually talked to the women from those times directly. Men didn't have to "manage" their women... they were taught and understo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:02 AM
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Seems to me they're saying they like the idea of paying a lot of money to acquire knowledge they're never going to use along with the status of having an alphabet behind their name. If they actually cared about "work" and "study", not having money to pay bloated university prices with wouldn't stop them from reading everything they can find on a subject they were interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:37 AM
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It's not to say you can't find a wife fitting the tradcon ideal anymore, there's plenty of women like that around. No, there really aren't. If they were that common, all these problems that caused the creation of all these subreddits wouldn't exist. Even if you find a woman who's "sort of" traditional, the effect of the current cultural climate mean there's a good chance she's only going to have "traditional demands," but the relationship is still going to be more akin to a Father/Rebellious Dau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:48 AM
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Wanting a family in a civilized society that was made possible by relatively balanced pair-bonded social structures that involve mutual benefit (i.e. what marriage used to be) doesn't make a man beta. Giving in to pressure from an anti-male cultural environment and allowing himself to be abused by a shitty female partner because he doesn't maintain healthy boundaries by having the stones to walk away from her (even if it means being single) when he sees the glaring red-flags makes a man beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:04 AM
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While you're at it, make sure you outlaw Disney movies, sleazy romance novels, "romance" movies (everything from 50-Shades to Twilight to The Notebook to the entire Hallmark Channel, etc.), any sort of Reality-TV and/or Competition-based "relationship" shows (Bachelor/Bachelorette, Real Housewives of WhoGivesAShit, 90-day Fiance, Temptation Island, any show featuring the lives of a celebrity family/couple, etc.) and so on... All of these things give women unrealistic expectations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:51 AM
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Great, now push the same altruism to change family courts so men can leave abusive and miserable wives without having to chop their leg off and pay their abuser going forward from the split to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:43 AM
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but in a vague sense I think we're better off than we were 70 years ago. Sub-replacement birth rates means the all-around culture you're describing is dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:40 AM
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I'd be closer to being a "trad-con" than anything else... and I agree with TRP in the assertion that it can't be "fixed" given the current cultural climate. Balanced relationships requires putting BOTH sexes' basic biological nature in check on a cultural/societal level, and in 2021 it's, for all practical purposes, considered a hate crime to criticize women even the slightest little bit. My entire family going back over 100 years was "trad-con", and they were essentially the Rock of Gibraltar c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:32 AM
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Funny you should mention that, you see, we pay people to take care of our yard work and fix the house. That's the thing about the modern world, a lot of the "heavy lifting" jobs men point out when this comes up aren't actually done by husbands anymore. So modern women pay men to be their husbands because, First off, their shitty attitude means they can't attract a man of decent character who would take it upon himself to learn and be willing to do all those things in the first place. And second,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:42 AM
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It’s literally the opposite. The traditional male role is providing… and when people talk about 50/50 relationships they tend to ONLY talk about providing (ie - the male role). I don’t know what you’re on about. What I'm "on about" is somehow the "traditional male role" morphed into being defined as ONLY paying the bills... which absolutely wasn't true. This is just another man-hating feminist twisting of the truth to minimize men to suit their own warped "woman needs a man like a fish needs a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:06 AM
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level 3Gilmoregirlin · 12hRight, this is the issue. So I am a female lawyer I don't have children, but my female colleagues that do and their husbands are also lawyers both earning equal salaries, and same hours, but the women still are doing 80% of child rearing and just about as much of the housework. We go on a business trip and husband can barely last two days alone. That's their fault for marrying money/status instead of reliability/character. Consequently, this is also why men don't care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:41 AM
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How many men actually do these tasks, though, unless they're too poor to hire someone to do them? ITT: Women expose the fact that they'd rather be with a man who can just write a check instead of having the actual skill to do the work himself. Then again, so many men are raised by single mothers who either chose shitty men or were too pathetic to attract better men these days, it's not surprising boys don't grow up with any sort of basic trade-based knowledge. No wonder women think 100k/year is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:26 AM
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So modern women are basically paying men to be their husband... Because modern women are too pathetic to get decent men with a traditional work-ethic to get with them.... essentially doing the female equivalent of a lazy, inept man paying a hooker for sex... and then many of you ironically end up doing the the entire set of traditional female tasks anyway. Meanwhile, men just do the work themselves and can live very comfortably on much less than what women need to manage.... which is why these f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:21 AM
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The house I grew up in was always kept relatively clean on a regular basis (as any traditional home would be), and we still had to deal with ants. Sometimes it's just how it is. We just got a $20-30 bottle of spray and coated the outside of the foundation of the house... crisis averted for another season.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:40 AM
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You know what a clean house looks like. You know what we mean when we say "someone who does their half of the chores." You just don't want to pull your weight because you think it's the woman's job. Talk to me when you're spraying the weeds while I'm cleaning the windows. Or when you're raking the leaves/grass clippings in the back yard while I do the front. Or when you're handling raw sewage while snaking that clog out of the drain while I'm replacing the worn-out faucet. Or how you're sewing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:34 AM
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There's nothing quite like finishing up the kitchen, secure in the knowledge that the bathroom is being taken care of without having to ask. Great. So I'm assuming you're gonna climb up on the fucking roof to clean out the gutters while I cut the grass then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:23 AM
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The problem is that the traditionally male household role is often left out of the equation... modern women bitching about "men doing half the housework" are actually arguing that she should only have to handle 25% of the total household duties. And then they still expect men to be the primary if not sole provider in a multiple-income-per-household economy on top of that, which requires more hours worked outside the home as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:38 AM
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It has more to do with men still having to do all the traditionally male tasks while being expected to ALSO do half the female tasks (which is what this thread's topic refers to) as well as having to work more hours outside the home because they're still expected to be a provider in an economy where the cost of living is that's based on the average household having the equivalent of multiple working-class incomes (which ironically happened primarily because women went to work en-mass and added a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:34 AM
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Not sure if we're actually in disagreement here, but regardless... my point is if you go back further like I said, you'd see that ACTUAL traditional relationships (i.e. not the shit feminists describe) were reasonably balanced and relatively equal in their expectations of each sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:59 AM
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The term is appropriate... In 2021, even if you "get the girl"... the amount of work it takes to do so (and then "keep her" going forward) isn't worth what modern women add to a man's life... it's basically a net-loss in quality of life... especially if kids are off the table. Most guys don't see this because they're too blinded by the idea of "getting pussy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:52 AM
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Vindictiveness = seeking to punishing/harm someone else. How does me choosing not to date people who only add burden to my life equate to "punishing them"? Don't know what this "Handmaiden's tale type bs" is (honestly never heard the term before) but what I expect is something that actually resembles a balanced relationship, and modern women have no clue what that is. I responded to a version of this ad-hominem attack in another post just a few days ago. Here's the relevant parts cut-and-pasted …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:45 AM
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Your great-granfather and your great--great-grandfather settled. So did your great-great-grandmother. I vehemently disagree with this. People back then had a totally different outlook on relationships/families. They prioritized reliability and character, while also having a sense of duty to their partners as a matter of sustaining the marriage rather than measuring potential partners based on physical materialism and social-status while competing against each other. My grandparents were "Greates…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:33 AM
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Translation: "Run yourself into the ground to be a 3% man and you can get all the worthless gold-digging pussy you want!" No thanks. My father worked 80+ hours/week in order to run a small business to support a family of 6+, and he burned out to the point he started developing chronic health issues (joint/back, cardiovascular, and digestive problems) in this mid-40's... and that was with a wife at home with the kids and doing 80% of the work around the house (by which I mean the full traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:37 AM
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And this double-standard bullshit where you give women a pass for their delusional standards (which are partly due to society conditioning them to think they're perfect and deserve the best no matter how flawed and fucked up they legitimately are) but tell "both sexes" they need to "question their conditioning" is how things wound up so messed up in the first place. The truth is that men are fine, just like how they've always been. It's the women that drastically changed and priced themselves ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:44 AM
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What in my post are you interpreting as "dramatic". I'm being 100% pragmatic and objective. Society (read: women) still has a significant set of default expectations they demand a man meet if they want to be in a relationship... Tell me what the female version of the same thing is.... what unique benefits should a woman expect to have to voluntarily and proactively contribute to a relationship by default if she wants it to last?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:18 AM
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Just look at FDS. Instead of slut they use the terms "just Libfem things" or "pick me". Except FDS'ers advise each other to fuck hot guys on the side to not get "Thristy" and settle for a "Low Value Male".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:26 AM
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Women who slut shame women ime tend to feel threatened by said slut, so it's usually in proximity. Or it's just used more... Factually. As someone who grew up with female role models that were actually from the era where this was the norm, I can tell you with certainty that being "threatened" by slutty women wasn't a concern... most of these women new they could run circles around the sluts with no trouble at all. NO... back then they did this to push loose women out of their social circles beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:25 AM
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That being said, I think many men would do better if they at least learned how to beautify themselves. I think most RP guys would rather women don't date fuckboys... but it's not the men making that choice... They'd try to teach their daughters how not to be cum-dumpsters, but given basic female biological nature coupled with the cultural climate cross where the rest of the world is whispering in their ears about how they're not empowered without taking their turn on the CC, it's not gonna do mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:43 AM
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im asking people as a whole to question their conditioning and the efficacy of social media and dating platforms I must insist the ladies go first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:26 AM
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but my point is that we do need each other The only thing I needed a woman for was procreation-- that's literally the only thing I can't physically do for myself. Now that I don't want kids anymore (for varying reasons beyond women themselves), their value to me as relationship partners is heavily capped. There's other things they could do that would be beneficial, but what's required of me for them to do those things generally results in a net-loss in quality of life... a pyrrhic victory at bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:23 AM
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"Female" is the scientific definition of a woman. In a way, when somebody refers to a woman "female" they are trying to degrade them by subliminally referring to them as animals, since the term "female", at least online, is only ever used to refer to animals. Same thing with "male" for men. At least when feminism uses it. The difference is men generally don't give a shit what man-hating feminists have to say to them directly... if anyone else uses it, they just look at them funny and don't make …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:58 AM
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In layman's terms, it's basically a huge "no true scotsman fallacy" that seeks to excuse struggling black people from having to engage in sustaining their own lives and instead seeks to blame their inability to improve their situations on "evil white people" keeping them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 08:39 AM
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Considering Asians are outpacing whites in both educational and socio-economic status, it's pretty clear that neither "white people" nor "the system" are the problem. Hell, there are significant portions of the overall black demographic that are doing quite well for themselves. The problem is that the specific portions of the overall black demographic that ARE struggling are often the ones that largely define their own "culture" as the anti-thesis of what THEY, THEMSELVES, ARE CHOOSING OF THEIR …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 08:19 AM
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Marxism focuses on economic equality across all social strata. Marxism is a flawed vessel through which communism is installed in given society. Communism itself is an economic system where the state owns EVERYTHING (there is no personal property/wealth) and has the power to redistribute all resources based on "NEED" rather than "WANT" (i.e. people are only given the bare minimum for subsistence survival, and not allowed any sort of upward economic mobility). In practice, this means everyone is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:31 AM
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^This. Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:10 AM
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Men are taught that they have to be "real men", ignore women and their issues, don't show much emotions besides anger/lust etc. By women being attracted to and rewarding men who are these things despite saying they want otherwise. Women are taught to "be wise", manipulate men into doing things they want by being feminine/submissive instead of talking openly about their feelings and worries. And when he pays attention to those things, she starts to see him as more of a "girlfriend" than a male pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 10:40 AM
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Don't entirely disagree... though at least some of those are responsible for implementing life-long pair-bonded social structures that allowed civilized society to develop in the first place. The ones I listed utterly disrupt balance in society, if they're not based on flat out falsehoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 10:34 AM
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I make the analogy that society is a town built in the floodplain of a massive river that's being held back by a huge dam being used for hydro-electric power. For whatever reasons, radical feminist-indoctrinated women are poking holes in the dam, which is threatening the town's safety. The TRP, "just be more alpha, bro!" types men are frantically trying to plug all the holes faster than the women are putting them in the dam (i.e. trying to assuage rapidly increasing hypergamy standards), which w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:24 AM
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Kevin Samuels is pretty spot on, but then he mostly interacts with women directly so you can see all the concepts and misguided mentality they've been sold in conceptual practice. Just wish he'd bring up race less... I mean, all societal problems are exacerbated in the black community due to them being significantly more militantly tribalist than other races (and their women doubly so due to both their race and gender), but the concepts exist largely among all racial backgrounds. The other three…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 08:04 AM
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My personal opinion on Black Pilled guys is that they're basically victim puking about the current sexual dynamics and don't want to put in the effort to improve themselves Every time I hear someone say this I think "what's the end game for that"? Psychotic obsession masked as "self-improvement" leading to neurosis and identity crises among men that leads to increased suicide rates; super-charged, completely unchecked hypergamy that will ultimately make it impossible for anyone but the top 1% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:54 AM
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You're not going back far enough in the other direction: Excessive anti-male activism throughout government/society driven by man-hating feminists was the catalyst that caused the red pill to become a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:42 AM
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Feminism, CRT, BLM, Marxism... really, any version of identity politics...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:38 AM
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Sounds to me like women in your country are taught to see all men as good for nothing, and therefore have no social tools to be able to function in a relationship with a decent one if he did show himself... which means men in general in your country have no incentive to be decent, because they're going to be seen as and treated like shit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:34 AM
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Explain how women who pay their own bills and run their own lives are expecting men who can't even afford to be breadwinner if they wanted to bear responsibility I literally said they expect the opposite of this in a partner... don't know what your point there is. What responsibilities exactly? Are you not seeing the millions of women both working full time, raising children and running households with partners who just go to work, come home and game or what have you And every fucking one of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:48 AM
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So in other words you don't like them because they're threatening your femininity... nevermind the double-standard of it being ok for a female to "be mascualine", but still expect masculinity in a partner, but men have to be "highly masculine" by default, but aren't allowed to show disdain for masculine traits in a woman without being ridiculed as "not masculine enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:57 AM
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The discussion of "submissiveness" is a matter of authority, which needs to be tied to responsibility/accountability and vice/versa... i.e. if you're not going to be responsible/accountable, you get no authority, and if you have authority, you need to be bear responsibility/accountability.... giving one without coupling it with the other is tantamount to either slavery (i.e. responsibility without authority) or tyranny (authority without responsibility). The "women being submissive" concept is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:55 AM
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And this post is why I don't give a shit about helping female rape victims. You just marginalized not only me, but any man who has had the court system maliciously used against him to alienate him from his kids if not society as a whole. What's good for the goose is good for the gander (or in this case, vice-versa). To reiterate the universally practical part of my post: The difference is, unlike these god damn spoiled children that call themselves "women", I didn't have a choice but to move on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:38 AM
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The secure and alpha men are delighted, and think it’s cute and exploratory. Do you have the same outlook if a man likes to knit/crochet, or obsesses over his appearance in the mirror, or gets overly emotional from watching a sad movie, or prefers to depend on a wife and stay home with the kids rather than work? Are you going to actively seek this type of man out and put him at the top of the list to date, marry, and have kids with?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 12:05 PM
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A lot of men who have issues with "strong and independent" do prefer their women to be submissive and dependent proactively cooperative, reasonably flexible, and able to be a team-player with reasonable grasp on mutual benefit in a relationship. Fixed that for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:49 AM
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This is definitely the kind of man and mindset that makes women NOT want to get involved. Oh thank god... please don't get involved with anyone... I wouldn't wish any of you on my worst male enemy... Just the way you talk about women sounds like you created every single one of these “issues” that you say happen. Novelty factor of "new pussy"? *shrug* I only recently stopped sugar-coating what I say in this regard because, after 20 years of trying to be tactful with your gender, I learned that do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:28 AM
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And the women they're beating are having 3 times as many kids as those in "egalitarian" western countries, who for the most part have sub-replacement birthrates and are currently aging-out. Guess who's gonna win the long-game on this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:30 AM
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You cannot fathom the trauma of longer feeling safe in your own skin because someone has ripped that away from you for their own gratification. Yes, I fucking can, because it fucking happened to me (drugged at a party, taken advantage of while passed out). The difference is, unlike these god damn spoiled children that call themselves "women", I didn't have a choice but to move on because not only does society not believe men to begin with, we get kicked in the balls and told to "man up and get o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:59 AM
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Our grandfathers didn't need them to relax. Our grandfathers had relatively respectable wives that actually pulled their fucking weight in their marriages while accepting a less-than luxurious lifestyle because they actually cared about their husbands' long-term health. Modern women have paradoxically increasing superficial demands, compete against their would-be husbands with careers that only benefit her, and bitch about "unpaid labor" (essentially the traditional female role) they have to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:21 PM
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TL:DR translation: Men are only allowed to have hobbies that women find attractive/beneficial even if those men have no interest in those things themselves, while women can do whatever the fuck they want "for fun", even if what they're doing is completely frivolous and/or unhealthy... or possibly even a detriment/costly to society as a whole. Incidentally, this is how men lose their own identity and become suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:13 PM
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It moved in that "egalitarian" direction here for about a generation back in the late 60's into the 70's, but that shit peaked roughly at the end of Gen-X and it's been downhill here ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:00 PM
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In the current era, there's an epidemic of single mothers with (often multiple) deadbeat "alpha male" baby-daddies out there. (in other words, they're still choosing to fuck biologically attractive men because they want that guy's DNA regardless of his shitty character and/or whether or not they're going to stick around). There are numerous studies that have shown that multiple times as many females (at least twice as many) have passed on their DNA than males... and considering the DNA That peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:48 PM
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"Want" and "Do" are two different things, and biology doesn't account for social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:49 AM
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TwoXChromosomes is that way.... *points in random direction*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:47 AM
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The difference is men are told to improve themselves in terms of what that the opposite sex wants to get what they want from the opposite sex. Telling a woman to do the same in 2021 is "Muh soggy knees!".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:44 AM
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Uhm, duh? On an biologically-driven instinctual level, women don't want to mate with the Beta, they just want his resources/commitment to pay for/provide stability for the kid they had with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:40 AM
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paying your ex-spouse alimony/child support Being forced to serve someone who potentially betrayed or abused you most definitely qualifies as being "intimately violated"... and it's on a regular basis, perpetrated by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 09:16 AM
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However, 45-80 is a long time to spend alone. The way women are nowadays, that's going to happen to most men anyway even if they "get the girl"... especially with the power-shift that marriage provides to women, which is why MGTOW reject the concept in the first place. Even if it wasn't the case, the cost of all the ridiculous expectations/worries/misery modern women dump on men isn't worth dealing with just to "not die alone". That aside, don't need a relationship to have a social life or have …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:52 AM
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Artificial female empowerment (i.e. removal of the checks on basic female nature at the expense of the rest of society) as a result of feminist activism is the core issue. Social media, contraceptives and the like just exacerbated the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:42 AM
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civilization required more women to have sex they did not like foregoing sex they could have and would have liked more, than is true for men. The tradeoff is they don't have to live in an unstable third-world-shithole, and have the only men they get to have sex with be boorish brutes that are often emotionally unstable and aggressively violent.... including towards the women. Women in uncivilized environments weren't "enjoying" the "erotic" aspect of sex... They weren't being courted or wooed, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:23 AM
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You're misconstruing the idea of "engaging in their biological imperative" as "sexual sacrifice"-- each sex has a different focus pertaining to their biological imperative. The biological imperative for women is hypergamy-- i.e. be serially monogamous only with best mate presently available (i.e. only mate with the best option until a better one comes along). The male biological imperative is to compete, by any means necessary, for as much reproductive access as possible-- the most efficient/eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:23 AM
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I'm in the US, and I've experienced exactly what I said both myself, and watching it happen to other people. FFS, our court system does exactly this in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:15 AM
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Nope. If the woman leaves or cheats, the man gets blamed for not being/doing good enough to keep her from straying... after which he gets kicked in the nuts and told to "do better". If a woman gets cheated on, the standard response of most people is to coddle/support/console her and call him an asshole for stepping out on what they assume by default is someone who did no wrong (i.e. the "women are wonderful" effect is in full swing).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:01 AM
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The point in orbiters is they are typically men the woman has no sexual interest in It only takes one she is interested in to fuck up her current relationship.... and the guy bears all the consequences if that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:42 AM
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Read the rest of my post and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:33 AM
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I don't care how much he makes as long as he's relatively ambitious and financially responsible. I was exactly that in my early 20's (working in my field of study- a STEM field-- at a fortune 500 company by 20, owned a house by 26, etc.). I wasn't talking to 95% of the women because they were either outright trash, single mothers, and/or incompetent/unreliable as relationship partners I have no reason to believe you'd be any better NOW. That was 20 years go, and women have only gotten worse sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:51 AM
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The truth though is most men can't afford feminine, submissive, cooperative women. Literally. That's a funny way of saying "Women who pull their damn weight in a relationship are fucking overpriced". On top of that, despite the majority of women working in marriages, women still do most of the household chores. Not when you figure in ALL the traditionally male tasks (which the article doesn't do). Also, splitting up the female tasks into individual separate categories, while lumping the male tas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:21 AM
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Explain to me what men gain in "modern" gender-relations.... what, easier-to-obtain casual sex from women during their hoe-phase? Who gives a shit. Modern men are still expected to provide because the majority of women don't want to date down... which in the modern economy, means working the equivalent of multiple working-class jobs, while competing AGAINST the modern women (who benefit from societal programs that favor them over men) that they're supposed to pair off with for those jobs. Modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:03 AM
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If it was "fantasy" this subreddit wouldn't exist.... along with all the other "relationship discussion" subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:29 AM
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Why would any man with his shit together who is willing to pay the most/all of the bills be with a greedy gold-digging, status-whoring bitch who's already demanding to be provided a luxury lifestyle (where he has to work the equivalent of multiple working-class jobs outside the home) right from the start simply because she exists? And then will constantly bitch that he should pitch-in more around the house because "women have jobs (that only benefit them) now" or help with the grunt-work of rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:03 AM
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Most "traditional" relationships were actually relatively balanced. The key problem is that "modern" women don't know how/are too lazy within their relationships/unwilling due to brainwashing by feminists to be "traditional" wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:06 PM
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You can't be anti hookup up for men while being pro hookup for women. You can if you're a hypocrite... which FDS'ers are, since they literally advise each other to fuck "hot" non-relationship-material guys on the side in order to "not get too thirsty and settle" for what they consider a "low-value man".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:14 AM
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How many women are or aren't doing this is irrelevant. In the cases where it is the case, she's the one agreeing to have sex without the commitment.... no one is holding a gun to her head... so if she assumed there was more than there was and gets burned, that's on her for straying from her boundaries in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:37 AM
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For men, sure... for themselves, anything they want is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:10 AM
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Does this woman continue to fuck without established monogamy? Yes.... i.e. a "friends with benefits" (FWB) situation... in 2021, with hookup culture being the norm, common sense should tell anyone (male or female) to assume this is what it is until otherwise established as something else. Is established monogamy assumed? Doesn't matter because.... women aren’t assessing their relationship properly and assuming incorrectly Women need to take agency for their own actions... if she's breaking her …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:08 AM
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They're not cheating because they're not in an established relationship. Monogamy assumes an established relationship. The point remains because they were willing to fuck him without being in an established relationship (i.e. they're engaging in "socially acceptable non-monogamy"), they have no grounds to complain about "cheating".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:34 AM
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FDS talks about how to be a high-value woman "who only benefits herself"... they're not advising each other "level-up" so their financial position can better benefit a partner... they're doing it to feed their own narcissism, thinking that it somehow justifies them demanding more from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:14 AM
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That is a real logic deduction. That's a funny way of spelling "pot calling the kettle black"....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:10 AM
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FDS'ers don't stay celibate... they literally advise each other to fuck "hot" non-relationship-material guys on the side in order to "not get too thirsty and settle".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:53 AM
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The legal risks for men translate into a range of much worse outcomes from also being put in physical danger themselves (both by being put in prison, and by other men taking them to task themselves), to financial ruin/destitution (not just divorce, but also a record due to false accusations resulting in lost employment), social/family alienation, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:50 AM
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how to vet for men who actually want an LTR. ... and are weak enough to be willing to run themselves into the ground like a male pick-meisha to be in an LTR with a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:42 AM
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If anything, MGTOW start from a point where they expect to have to work at a relationship, but refuse to work for free. The problem is women in general have become too "FDS-like", i.e. they expect to be catered to without having to contribute themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:40 AM
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MGTOW aren't afraid of women... hell, plenty of them still keep FWB situations, hookups, interact just fine with females in their social circle, etc. If they're "afraid" of anything, it's all the other parts of society that excessively cater to females. The only common factor among MGTOW is that they're anti-marriage, anti-children (short of hiring a surrogate and raising them on their own), and anti-cohabitation. Any other boundaries are set by each individual man as he sees fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:36 AM
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FDS basically wants a traditional husband without wanting to be a traditional wife/woman. TRP just wants sex. at one point was about how to understand the logic behind female attraction in order to avoid bad women while maintaining healthy boundaries/relationships, but shifted to being more of a Hookup/PUA discussion forum because the value of females as long-term relationship partners in general has fallen so badly due to them shifting more and more towards the mentality described above as what…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:06 AM
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The point remains.... socially acceptable non-monogamy = "marriage has fallen out of favor" and/or "marriage is no longer taken seriously as a life-long commitment". And no, "spinning plates" means they're FWB (friends with benefits) situations (i.e. "socially acceptable non-monogamy")... not established, committed relationships-- which makes it not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:32 AM
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"Holding derogatory opinions about women" is not a particularly broad definition for misogyny. What you're missing is the definition of "deragatory opinion" is different for every woman... and the general society-wide narrative is "if a woman considers something deraogatory, it's misogyny".... therefore, what determines if something is "misogyny" is whether or not any one woman finds it derogatory. Or, put more simply, if something makes any one woman feel bad, it's "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:37 AM
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Women are being allowed to act on their basic biological nature, while men's biological nature is checked to a crippling extent by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:23 AM
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You countered your own argument in your original post. The male biological imperative (i.e. how they behave in an uncivilized environment) in pretty much all mammal species is polygynous... i.e. they "compete" for as much exclusive reproductive access from females as they can get. The way men bond. In relationships men tend to bond over time. Relax, Girl: Boyfriend's 'Love Hormone' Wards Off Your Rivals | Live Science , I could not find the exact study linking production of Oxytocin to male pair…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:01 AM
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And when you keep pushing it further it can quickly go from slapping out of fetish to abuse. The point that happens is when she wants a different dick and the rationalization hamster needs an exit strategy that she can use to bury the guy she's leaving to the point that he suffers social exile/ruin while trying to make everyone "take her side" in the breakup. That point is when the man's previous behavior that she required to get off becomes "abuse". Remember kids... Women never lie, it's just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:39 AM
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I don't understand the point of this topic... it's usually older women that are the ones complaining about "age gaps", not younger women who are engaging in "age gap" dating by dating older, more established men that the older, less-attractive women think should be dating them. If men complain about age gaps, it's usually younger men complaining that women their own age are dating older men... and the reason is the older men they're dating usually have more money because they've had much more ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:51 AM
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And you don't have to wear a condom!
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 12:15 PM
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What about the people who already got the shot? Why aren't they getting $100? Worse yet, for many, this is just the government handing their own tax money back to them.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 12:14 PM
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Someone, somewhere, was desperate enough to put their dick in that.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 12:10 PM
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I'm here because I Wyatt-Earped my way through the dating pool and came out relatively unscathed despite having grown up in a legitimately balanced, traditional (i.e. Silent Generation) family. The female role models I had set the bar for my expectations of a female partner... me being born at the end of Gen-X, I found that modern females are generally spoiled, rebellious 14-year-olds in bodies of various older-ages that are incapable of anything more a daddy-daughter relationship.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 11:54 AM
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The rumor is there was significant exodus from WoW over to FFXIV, so Blizzard's hurting there as well.... might just be a rumor though, dunno if it's true or not (I never played either). Unfortunate that a financial hit they take as a result will be drowned in this SJW crap as the reason...
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 11:33 AM
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"I'm in great shape, highly educated, have lots of friends and a cool job" And no eggs. Even if a man doesn't want kids, biological imperative still makes him attracted to fertility.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 10:24 AM
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I'd say it's more like programs like Fresh-and-fit (and that of every other "be a 3% man" advice "guru") aren't a long-term solution for civilization because their methods, if serious, actually supercharge hypergamy... eventually every market becomes saturated, and one man won't have enough time in a day to do what all these women's hypergamy tells them to expect... Kinda hard to "be dominant" with a woman that you're never in the physical presence of because you have to go work non-stop to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:44 AM
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And clearly those women aren't happy with those men, or else they wouldn't cheat and nag them.... They're the women whose relationship choices consist of either men who won't commit and use them for sex (that they're stuck cheating with instead of being able to lock down), or weak men they don't want (that are the only ones that'll put up with their bullshit... at least temporarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:13 AM
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The more "alpha" police/military would be some of the first ones picked off as they'd pose the biggest threat since they have access to equipment. And keep in mind, the threat wouldn't come in the form of stand-up, face-to-face fights...sure, some of that would happen, but then whoever won those would be picked off from a distance by someone standing in the shadows that they never new was there. It would be much more mafia style assassinations rather than shootouts at high noon or hand-to-hand g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:09 AM
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Doesn't mean they teach boys how to deal with their own emotions, which often manifest different than girls' do (when girls get frustrated, they tend to just break down and cry, when boys get frustrated, they often get angry and lash out... both of which are functions of estrogen and testosterone, each is reacted to differently by society). Also, a lot of single mothers teach their sons to be "gentlemen" so they'll be "good husbands" (i.e. simps that women reject sexually, which ends up frustrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:51 AM
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Ahh, good... awesome then... Hope wherever you land works out for ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:45 AM
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How are the finances split up? And who's doing the traditionally male tasks around the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:57 AM
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Remember that next time you bitch about having "mommied" all the men you got with.... better relationship-minded men are the ones "choosing" to "leave you alone". Put it this way: Your "orbiters" are the level of man that's going to put concerted effort into a relationship with you... they are a solid indicator of your "Relationship Market Value" (RMV)... that's the only reason they're "orbiting" you in the first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:51 AM
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A lot of what modern women consider "healthy" relationships are legitimately not healthy for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:27 AM
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Does she live with you and are you doing all the traditionally female work around the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:18 AM
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Take a deep breath and read my post again... we're in agreement on pretty much everything you said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:14 AM
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If that's the case, then it's due to being raised by single mothers who either chose shitty men to mate with, or failed to attract and keep better men themselves.... never mind that the women themselves these days aren't exactly giving men something worthwhile to man-up for either. I know plenty of guys that are decent and match the rock-solid male role-models I had... they're just not talking to these women because they have shitty "poor me" attitudes, and are often extremely entitled. Not sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:37 AM
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Maybe a clearer way to frame the argument would be that if men have to directly compete against other men without an uneven advantage similar to what women get because of their gender, then women shouldn't expect to be considered equal to men unless they also are able to keep up while competing against those same "other men" without the uneven advantage they're being given.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:09 AM
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Also it looks like you still have a fundamental misunderstanding of why those scholarships and clubs exist. And how based on your own model women still aren't getting an advantage. As long as women have to be artificially elevated to the level of men to be able to compete with them, women can never really be considered equal to men, regardless of what "historical disadvantages" women had compared to men (FTR, men also had to compete against other men back in that time as well, and they didn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:03 AM
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Ok, rather than tell men to all "become more attractive", let's make it legal for "less alpha" males kill off the "more alpha" males, than take all the females they want... by force if necessary.... like how it works in those same nature shows. That's the problem: Civilized society was built on the idea of checking BOTH sexes' base nature in order to produce a better long-term outcome for everyone. In the present day, women are being allowed, if not outright encouraged, to act uncivilized, while…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 06:55 AM
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Communism = the "state" owns everything, and redistributes it "equally" based on "need" (as opposed to "want"), while the general population has little to no autonomous upward socio-economic mobility (which would allow them to potentially challenge the "state")... i.e. everyone ends up "equally" poor so the "state" can maintain control over everyone. Marxism is just a specific method of achieving the concept of communism where an elite "ruling" class takes over everything, balances it out evenly…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 06:23 AM
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"Providing more value" doesn't matter when you're the one dumping them (because they were the shitty one in the relationship) and they try to ruin your life to make themselves look like a victim. You can calibrate perfectly and all that other PUA bullshit, actually get the girl, and then find out she's a shit relationship partner and dump her... at that point no amount of "alpha" is going to stop her from potentially trying to destroy your life to make herself not be seen the "failure" that fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:54 AM
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Yeah, sounds like we're mostly in agreement, just coming at it from different angles. Just one thing to think about: I fucking hate this state, but I make too much money to leave right now. But how much are you clearing despite making that much? I mean, doesn't really matter if you make 135k/year if your expenses are 125K/year... you're not banking more than I am even though I'm making half as much-- and my mortgage will eventually go away, rent doesn't... (note these are just hypothetical numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:46 AM
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The point of the post before yours was a failing of #BelieveAllWomen... and it still applies the same even if they meet in real-life (pretty sure Johnny and Amber didn't meet online, for example). Everything in my post was a matter of how females behave after the breakup, in real life, and how society (over)reacts in favor of them while the default setting for men is that they get demonized at someone else's word.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:28 AM
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I live in CA. In CA if you make over 135K which is basically lower middle class to middle class where I live, you pay approximately that rate on all incremental dollars, and it's not exactly a cake walk once you surpass ~50K. California is also an extreme outlier compared to the rest of the country in most economic categories (from cost of living all the way down to minimum wage and also rate of homelessness)... your state's economy is beyond fucked up--- everything in your state is heavily magn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:32 AM
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Lol, sure, have at it... heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:58 AM
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(i.e. primary type voters approx 30% and 30% with approx 40% of America as independents) According to the last numbers I saw (which was admittedly a while ago), it was closer to 40% solidly red, 40% independent, and 20% solidly blue. The twist is the 40% red is split between individualist (libertarian) and moderately-absolutist subsets... while Blue is pretty much exclusively communist (i.e. there is no such thing as "libertarian left")... with the overton window falling halfway between the far …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:49 AM
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This is what feminists think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:33 AM
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The problem here is the government stops other men who don't want your penis in their wife from putting a bullet in your head, while not putting any serious pressure on the wife from letting you put your dick in her despite her being committed to someone else. I.e. women are being allowed (if not outright encouraged) to act uncivilized (i.e. engage in hypergamy/serial monogamy) , while men are being forced to remain civilized to a crippling extent (i.e. not allowed to eliminate competition using…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:31 AM
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Translation: "Just be more alpha, BRO!" Doesn't work out long-term when they get pissed at you for deciding to dump them and start splitting out lies about you to bury your ass to make themselves not be the reason the relationship failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:23 AM
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So your point is redundant. And most women aren’t behaving like your example. Doesn't matter... it only takes one to get labeled badly enough to have judgement passed on you in the "court of facebook", or for your employer to find out and fire you, or whatever else. Look at the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case... how do you think that would've gone if he didn't have the recordings that showed she was the abuser... nevermind if he wasn't a celebrity? He would've been destroyed purely on her vindictiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:18 AM
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I think it rings the bell. Also strawman logic "you men objectify, degrade and cheat, so we're free to do the same" even if there are many more men who don't do these. I.e. they use "equality" as an excuse to behave like the worst possible men rather than elevating themselves to the level of the best men to be deserving of those men...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:10 AM
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Been saying this for decades... I put it in somewhat more tongue-in-cheeck terms though.... as in: "a lot of people who vote blue do so because they think red is lying to them about what they want to do.... a lot of people who vote red are doing so because they think blue is telling the truth about what they want to do."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:04 AM
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Eh. I just think everyone should pay far less, and then we should spend far less to balance the budget. This. 60% of the non-debt federal budget in the US is Social/Welfare programs... compared to 17% for Military. I'm not well versed in this particular topic, but like everything else, the lower and middle class could afford a lot more if they were taxed less. The bottom 50% of all taxpayers in the US already only pay 3% of the total federal tax revenue, combined, but they account for over 11% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:00 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, most europeans have much higher Federal sales tax (i.e. Value Added Tax). The US has NO Federal VAT, which is done on a state-by-state basis instead, the highest of which is 7.25%, with some collecting none at all.... much less than that of most European countries that charge 3x or more (20%+) VAT than the US's highest. Most people in the US also don't pay 50% non-cap-gains income tax. I'm around the 60th percentile as far as what my base earnings are and mine's somewhere ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:27 AM
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Breakup rates are roughly the same for other relationship types, so rather than assuming that women initiating divorce is somehow indicative of the inevitable failure of men to be attractive in long-term relationships I highly doubt the bolded part... but I do I guarantee that there's plenty more men willing to end a shitty relationship compared to a shitty marriage just on the the fact that the government is involved in the latter, and men (particularly those men who did very well for themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:52 AM
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It used to be an accepted concept among prominent 2nd wave feminists (when it was still arguably about "egalitiarianism"): The courts have properly determined that a man should neither be able to force a woman to have an abortion nor to prevent her from having one, should she so choose. Justice therefore dictates that if a woman makes a unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:06 AM
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Considering TRP has become more of a PUA/Hookup advice arena due to the extent that women as an overall demographic have fallen as reliable life-long relationship partners, that's not surprising.... PUA/Hookup advice (even beyond TRP) starts from a standpoint not making putting emotional stock in females a priority in the first place, so why would they see the reason for men cheating as anything other than biological urge? That aside, there's plenty of non-TRP sources that will tell you the majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:56 AM
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Contrary to what most people think, men who cheat are more likely (either solely or at least partly as opposed to not at all... IIRC, the split was 48, 32, and 20%, respectively) to do so because of a lack of emotional fulfillment in their current relationship rather than pure hormonally-driven urge to just stick it in another hole--- and that absence of emotional fulfillment comes from their wives treating them like a disposable utility rather than a human being. Men in trades are in the "sour …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:22 PM
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Most women are egalitarian, not feminist. They think they're egalitarian, but they're behavior is still mostly in line with feminism. Most women are only egalitarian on things that won't affect women negatively if they were made "fair", the second something affects women negatively (regardless of how biased in their favor it starts beforehand), they jump right on the feminist bandwagon. Perfect example is abortion... If the majority of women were ACTUALLY egalitarian, then they'd believe that if…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:40 AM
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A maturely feminine personality absolutely matters. Its rare to find a man with self esteem accept an overly assertive, bitchy, domineering woman. It's actually more repulsive than being fat. Slightly edited for better context, but.... ^This. Exactly this. To clarify, just because a man is ABLE to handle that type of woman, doesn't mean he WANTS to handle that type of woman.... and he's also most likely smart enough to know he's better off being single than being with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:01 AM
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she needs to be attractive, slim and moderately nice and she could get any man to wife her up in 10 minutes lol. You're hamstering words into their mouths... They don't say "ANY man"... they say "A man"... i.e. a reasonably average, well intentioned man that's most likely on your own level... they also don't say "wife her up in 10 min", they say you can have serious interest shown. They do NOT mean you can get a man who's an overall 9 out of 10 when you're a slightly above-average looking overal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:47 AM
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I can grow a whole human if I choose to and feed it with my body, and it's much more important and impresive than lifting heavy things. We are even. Maybe for the 9 months you're actually doing that, sure... but you're not incubating children 5+ days/week for 40+ years of your life. The more weight you give to your ability to incubate children as you "having value", the more your stock plummets once you lose the ability to have kids... nevermind if you choose not to have children at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:17 AM
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Perfect example of "don't listen to what women say, watch what they do". Doesn't matter what they call themselves, most women still ascribe to the majority of feminist doctrine in their beliefs and how they conduct themselves in every-day life. A related example: a lot of females who call themselves "Traditional women" aren't actually traditional women in what they expect to have to offer to a partner, but rather they just have traditional demands while expecting to be allowed to engage in progr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:00 AM
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If anything, liberal politics are quite the compliment to searching for causal sexual partners. Edited for clarity. Liberal politics have been pretty terrible for maintaining stable families/marriages on a society-wide basis over the last 2-3 generations... something that ALSO includes men seeking female sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:52 AM
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TRP is a counter-movement to excessive over-reach by radical feminists pushing for female supremacy. If it was just about equal rights/autonomy, they wouldn't still be claiming women are "oppressed". Talk to me about "equality" when women want to take responsibility for their own bad decisions instead of blame them all on some mythical "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:15 AM
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TRP is a counter-movement to excessive gynocentrism pushed out by 2nd and 3rd wave feminism over the last 2-3 generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:11 AM
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See I’m RP but I intend to marry. I just gotta make sure I’m her best option(i.e. satisfy her hypergamy). Not possible results in a pyrrhic victory in the modern era. RP taught me not to hate women, but accept them for who they are. That right there is why FDS isn't anywhere close to TRP-- they have no interest in accepting men for who they are... but instead want men to be their servants. It should also tell you why you shouldn't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:49 AM
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Won't be able to tell underneath all the burkhas though...
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 08:37 AM
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Doesn't matter... They'll still find ways to exempt them from actually being conscripted.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 08:16 AM
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It's a largely incomplete/flawed social theory that misrepresents a supposed problem while presenting no criteria that, if reached, would indicate that problem is has been eliminated.... it essentially seeks to manufacture an "institutional" problem that isn't really there, which, in turn, is used by extremist ideologues engaging in activism to create hysteria and unrest that at best, causes more damage to the people they erroneously think they're "helping" and at worst use those marginalized gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:54 AM
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You're right... he should learn it because the average modern women sure as shit isn't... so even if he gets into a relationship, if he wants a home-cooked meal, he's going to have to make it himself. That should actually be a new thing... forget sex by the third date... if she hasn't voluntarily made you a home-cooked meal from scratch by the third date, she's not wife material and should be cut loose immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:14 PM
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Two, white privilege doesn't mean your life is perfect...just that your skin color isn't one of the reasons why it sucks. And the reason a black person's life happens to suck is not inherently because of their skin color either... It's far more likely their own choices, or possibly their upbringing/culture that's surrounding them in their own community (which may be a holdover from older generations of black people still thinking color holds them back... which isn't the fault of everyone outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:08 PM
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I agree with the framing you describe. The problem is I did exactly this, but when I expressed that it disqualified 80-90% of modern women (and then based on their character, not necessarily physical appearance), I get labeled some version of an oppressive, misogynistic, wife-beating shitlord. FFS, I recently made the following statement to another poster in response to them asking what I meant by a "good wife", and implying that I meant a submissive slave: "How about you just tell me what the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:02 AM
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Technically, him being a "stud" is a function of female hypergamy... he can't be a stud if the women aren't choosing to fuck him because they see him as a more suitable mating partner. That aside, unchecked male biological imperative, i.e. to compete for as much exclusive reproductive access as possible (i.e. not limited to one female), isn't exactly inherently productive either-- it needs to be directed to a certain extent. The way males exercised their biological imperative in an uncivilized e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:39 AM
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There was nuance in old music... Today it's just "DUUUUUUaaaiii... YER A CRAZY BITCH BUT I LIKE THE WAY YOU FUCK ME.....HUHUHUHUHUHUH"
/r/MGTOW22/07/21 08:28 AM
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Even those in the manosphere will argue that men who want kids mostly dislike saggy tits and stretch marks that were caused by ANOTHER man's kids-- significantly different story when they're caused by his own kids. Men in general who are looking for "childfree" women because their bodies are still more aesthetically pleasing more often than not aren't looking for committed long-term relationships. There's also a big difference in just losing tautness of skin because of pregnancy and packing 50-1…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:07 AM
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Agree 100%... I'd even argue that society now actually encourages females to act immorally in a number of ways... and not just in the legal sense. From a gender-relations standpoint, civilization ultimately developed as a matter of BOTH sexes' base nature being put in check by the implementation of a life-long, pair-bonding social structure (i.e. marriage). The problem we have now is women are running around completely unchecked, if not encouraged by society to act purely on their own primitive …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:50 AM
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Again, you have it backwards... CRT assumes that white people all live on easy-street, which just plain isn't true. I said black people that are struggling don't want to engage in their own lives to the extent that most white people understand they have to, not that all black people are inherently lazy and inferior... I'd also say the exact same thing about the vast majority of white people that are struggling. YOU are making the assertion that ALL WHITE PEOPLE don't have to do anything and get …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:34 AM
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I'm a guy, and not even I think women are that stupid. No one wants to live in poverty with multiple children to exercise their hypergamy You have their logic backwards... they're not purposely seeking out the section-8 life in order to favor Hypergamy... the existence of a safety net of any kind is removing a check on their basic nature so they pay less attention when choosing to act irresponsibly. Most women don't even know Hypergamy is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:38 AM
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Its the other way round, well-to-do women can afford to do stupid things like becoming a single mom (although they tend not to, because its stupid and they didn't become well-to-do by being stupid). A lot of well-to-do women also waited too long to have kids and can't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:34 AM
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Depends on your age and the age of your parents... My parents were Silent Generation... which was called such in part because it was understood that you had a job to do, and you just shut your mouth and did your job out of a sense of duty.... a concept that applied to all parts of society (workforce, marriage, kids, everything). People (women in particular compared to present day) were more likely to be focused on doing their part than bitching about what they weren't getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:16 AM
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I also have talked to a few women who plan on being single mothers. I cant believe that women are planning for this, but Ive learned that some are. *shrug* someone has to raise the next generation of men that future females will abuse for resources... and to blame all the problems caused by her own bad decisions on...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:07 AM
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You're thinking about it backwards... it's not that it gives them an incentive to become single mothers, it's that it removes a check on their base nature as they feel less pressure to act responsibly because they have this notion of there being a safety net with no reciprocation required on her part. Last time I checked, social/welfare programs make up about 60% of the federal budget in the US, and are ~3.4x more than the military budget (which is around 17% of the total). From a financial stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:06 AM
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who said anything about "protecting women?"... that's just a biproduct of the actual purpose of "civilization."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:49 AM
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No she wasn't.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 09:08 AM
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Serial Monogamy is a female trait. Monogamy isn't a male trait at all.... men are naturally polygamous. Monogamy was artificially introduced as as social structure meant to check both sexes' nature so men would stop killing each other and build civilized society instead.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 08:14 AM
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OMFG.... Imaginary Reddit Sock Cock... That got me... lol...
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:36 AM
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It won't matter anyway... the draft is just a lottery method of choosing who gets conscripted should the need arise. They'll make numerous concessions exempting females from getting drafted... (my first guess is they'll make the physical requirement too high for them to pass.) and even then, the ones who don't get exempted will just get knocked ups o they don't have to go.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:29 AM
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It won't matter anyway... the draft is just a lottery method of choosing who gets conscripted should the need arise. They'll make numerous concessions exempting females from getting drafted... (my first guess is they'll make the physical requirement too high for them to pass.) and even then, the ones who don't get exempted will just get knocked ups o they don't have to go.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:28 AM
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It won't matter anyway... the draft is just a lottery method of choosing who gets conscripted should the need arise. They'll make numerous concessions exempting females from getting drafted... (my first guess is they'll make the physical requirement too high for them to pass.) and even then, the ones who don't get exempted will just get knocked ups o they don't have to go.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:28 AM
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I wouldn't matter if they have to register for the draft anyway... the draft is just a method of choosing who gets conscripted... and it'll still overwhelmingly be men that get conscripted should the need arise. Dozens of concessions will be put in place to prevent females from having to go regardless of having to register for the draft . My first guess is they'll set the physical requirements too high so they can't go). The ones who don't qualify for a concession will just get knocked up so the…
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:26 AM
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I wouldn't matter if they have to register for the draft anyway... the draft is just a method of choosing who gets conscripted... and it'll still overwhelmingly be men that get conscripted should the need arise. Dozens of concessions will be put in place to prevent females from having to go regardless of having to register for the draft . My first guess is they'll set the physical requirements too high so they can't go). The ones who don't qualify for a concession will just get knocked up so the…
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 07:25 AM
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I'd say you have it backwards-- You're the one that seems to be uncomfortable with the idea that the reasons struggling black communities are struggling MIGHT be because of failings of the culture within that specific community-- i.e. the "systematic problem" is in the way that community functions in-and-of-itself, rather than something outside of it. We can't have a realistic talk about systematic racial oppression until you've eliminated all other possible reasons for certain gaps in prosperit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:49 AM
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Who said anything about patriotism? Speaking as a person with basic common sense, CRT as a theory is completely ludicrous and fundamentally unfounded primarily, but not exclusively, because it ignores individual merit. My point is that anyone who promotes CRT is literally ignoring hard evidence that disproves the theory, and that's worsened by so-called left-wing "academics" censoring any argument to the contrary of that (just like the Inquisition did with Galileo). The second you do that, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:13 AM
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I've seen a lot more women call out Amber Heard after her abusive nature came to light more than I've seen men do. Great, so as long as every man walks around with a go-pro on every time he leaves the house and records every second of every day so he can prove any false allegation a woman makes is actually false, he can count on women to not call for him to be castrated the second a woman says he abused her. The truth is Johnny Depp was guilty until proven innocent, and a large part of the reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:50 AM
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Ever ask yourself why men created the concept of police? Civilization? You might fare better with that wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:24 AM
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Academia as in the free exchange of ideas in pursuit of objective truth? Don't hate that at all... But what you're pushing isn't "academia"... it's propaganda/indoctrination... you're more akin to the Inquisition putting Galileo on trial for heresy because they didn't like him promoting heliocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:54 AM
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Lol, you realize that men would prefer a hot waitress over a hot woman with a PhD right? I like to frame it as "men would rather date the maid than the woman who can pay the maid... because the maid is the one actually putting in the work around the house"... And when they get all uppity and ask "what's difference? The house got cleaned either way"... I say "Ok, let me ask you this... Do you put out just because a man pays someone to cook you a meal, serve it to you, and then clean up afterwards…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:11 AM
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And the guys who do dare say it get looked at like they have a third arm growing out of their forehead instead of being taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:58 AM
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Lmao! Guys, for the love of God, STOP LISTENING TO KEVIN SAMUELS! He’s a narcissistic person with a weak ego—that’s why he treats people like shit and masks it as telling truths. He really does speaks the honest truth.... a lot of these women are completely out of touch with where they stand with men in general... let alone high-value men. I'm not even what he would call "high-value", and even I wouldn't touch the women that call in to talk to him. I’m not saying none of what he says has truth, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:52 AM
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Women have what men want. I disagree... I got 4 of the last 5 women I went after (and the key reason I didn't get the 4th was because I made it clear the best I could offer her was more than a hookup, but less than a courtship, so it's was fair that she turned me down)... I see 80-90% of women as generally not suitable for long-term relationships-- especially if they're extremely physically attractive, as in my experience, they're the least connected to reality because they've had the least pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:45 AM
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I saw it more as sarcastic hyperbole meant as mockery... I.e. the person he was replying to said "women" (as in "all" women... including average and below average women) want top-shelf men. He was mocking them because they're assuming "women" (again "all" women) DESERVE top shelf men like it's something that should just be understood by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:27 AM
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Reddit always claims this but it's just not my experience, and of course statistical evidence for these claims is never provided. They don't start that way... it happens in increments. She "doesn't want that" until "that" starts sniffing around... at which point the guy she's with that was good enough when they got together is now no longer good enough.... and then over time, it her expectations start to look like this: Has to be 6'3 like her ex BF John. Has to be adventurous and fun-loving like…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:20 AM
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Women are making traditional demands of men without being traditional women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:53 AM
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You know what happens if men have a "hoe phase" like women do? Well, let's put it this way: Remember when J-Lo said "Men under 33 are useless"? Well, that would become "men under 43 are useless" if men had a "hoe phase" like women do. Men that want stable families at a reasonable point in their life don't have the option of fucking around for a decade before getting serious... they have to grow the fuck up and start hammering their shit down starting in their early 20's. Men don't get to just la…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:03 AM
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A more accurate question would be "what do you think of a woman getting with a man who has a kid that she has to take on the male role for". Also, a woman who leaves/gets left by a man with a kid doesn't end up having to pay that man alimony (or since it's becoming a thing these days, child support for having bonded with the kid that isn't biologically theirs).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:52 AM
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If you want traditional commitment from a man, prioritize being a traditional woman... and do so genuinely. Note that's BE a traditional woman, not just make traditional demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:29 AM
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Men have to seek out and pursue the woman, supposedly win her favor, court her, protect, provide, take the lead, blah blah blah (play offense)... while also vetting her character at the same time (play defense). If he fails to "get the girl" (fucks up his offense), he gets told it's his fault, and he needs to do better (man-up!). If he gets cheated on, or she abuses him, runs him through the family/divorce-court meat-grinder, he gets blamed for not knowing better (told he fucked up his own defen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:22 AM
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Now tell me how they act in relationships... cuz all that shit you just said means fucking NOTHING when it comes to what type of WIFE these women would be. Just because they who know how to kill it in the classroom, on the field, or in the board-room doesn't necessarily mean they took the time to developed any sort of awareness or tools to be a decent relationship partner.... if anything, they're more likely to be stuck-up, bitchy and entitled, something no one would ever say about my mother (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:58 AM
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To reiterate: And there's the Ad Hominem attack. Game. Set. Match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:24 PM
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Bullshit. Modern women are just fucking lazy and entitled. Let's continue my parents' story: When Dad started burning out in his mid-40's (to the point he was having joint, back, and cardio-pulmonary problems due to stress), since mom actually cared about his long-term health, she whole-heartedly agreed to him selling the business (which was still solidly profitable, the money for which got locked into long-term investments) and "downgrading" to a normal 40hr/week job, while she took on a 40hr/w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:17 PM
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*shrug* women keep bitching they want men to court women like they did in traditional times... well, the reason men courted and committed to those women was because THOSE women actually brought value to a home and a family (particularly a husband)... by BEING A TRADITIONAL WIFE. Meanwhile, a lot of modern women now are bitching that they can't even get asked on a real date... and they can't find men who want families and relationships.. Perfect example I came across; a comment on an article from…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:38 PM
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Gaslighting/troll attempt 0/10. Though I can certainly understand why the screaming matches started 6 months in... and why the guy started drinking and then choked your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:07 PM
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And there's the Ad Hominem attack. Game. Set. Match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:02 PM
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I linked a video showing real-world evidence of the exact behavior that causes the problem... Real-world evidence trumps peer-reviewed "theory" any day of the week (especially when the people peddling that "theory" censor any dissenting argument)... and he's got numerous examples of the same behavior all over his channel. What's your shit peer-reviewed by? Those BLM frauds? Some Antifa neo-brown-shirt chapter? Some other soft-racist left-wing "higher-education" indoctrination center? Not hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:53 PM
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and as I get paid as adjunct faculty to educate, The word you're looking for is INDOCTRINATE... not educate... and if this is how you conduct your classes... and then using shoddy material that only holds up if you silence all opposing criticism (literally the definition of indoctrination) that only buffoons would actually take seriously, you're clearly the reason why higher education has become such a fucking joke.... your students should be demanding a refund. As for "discussing uncomfortable …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:16 PM
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Most of the guys I know don't post pics of just themselves at all... let alone arbitrary pics of them being shirtless just for the fuck of it. And, no, I'd actually say a guy doing that would be being just as much of an attention whore as the girl was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:24 PM
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Ok I'm riled up from reading another thread... but since you pulled out that tired bait-and-switch horse-shit... How about you just tell me what the fuck it is women should expect to have to contribute to a relationship by default if they want it to actually last. Because in 2021, expecting a woman do so much as put a fucking hot-dog on a god-damn plate if she expects him to work 80+ hours/week to provide luxury for a family that he doesn't get to take part in makes a man a misogynistic wife-bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:21 PM
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TIL being concerned with being raped, beaten, and/or murdered by your potential partner are considered "rich people problems". Ya think maybe the fact that you're so fucking obsessed with spewing the idea that "all men are rapists, murderers, and woman-beaters" might be the reason why you only get attention from shitty men? No emotionally stable man with good intentions wants to come home to a whack-job who's constantly staring daggers at him because of something someone else did. Just fucking s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:10 PM
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Not reading all that shit... here's the bottom line: Men have it harder because they have to play both offense and defense in the dating world, and if they fuck either of those things up, they get kicked in the balls while they're down, and told to man up and do better. Meanwhile, Women only play defense, and when they fuck up that defense, men get blamed for her fuck-up, and the rest of society gets saddled with the consequences of that fuck-up, not the woman herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:41 PM
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It's not simping if your getting reciprocal practical consideration in return. My dad busted his ass 80+ hours per week running a small business to support a family of 6+ that included a stay-at home wife. In return for that, his wife did literally EVERYTHING around the house that she was physically strong enough to do, and without a single fucking peep about it (that's important... the second they bitch about "unpaid labor" or whatever bullshit, their effort immediately becomes meaningless)... …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:31 PM
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When someone earns the respect you give them, that's not "putting them on a pedastal". Your football coach had to do something to earn that respect from you... and you're not just up and paying his fucking bills or buying him dinner at all, let alone simply because he exists. You're interactions with your coach are, generally speaking, mutually beneficial-- you both bust your ass to fulfill the purpose of your positions for the same team (he does all the planning and prep-work to put the game-pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:14 PM
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Half the allure for the guys who pay for Onlyfans is the premise that the naked girl in the pictures is talking to him like he matters to her beyond his subscription... essentially leading him on. It's as much the guy's fault for being gullible as it is her fault for taking advantage of a weak and/or desperate person.... she doesn't deserve a free pass for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:01 PM
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I know many of men who put their wives above everything. That doesn’t make them a simp. It means she’s the most important thing to them. And it's a rare thing in 2021, but it's entirely possible that the wife actually deserves that praise because actually put the work in to earned it by being a decent wife. Most modern women aren't genuinely decent wives though, and sex-work generally isn't something a man is going to see as a characteristic held by a "decent wife". Also, fun piece of informatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:55 PM
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The real question is why are they throwing their money away on OnlyFans when they can just do a search and get the same thing for free, work one out, and get a good night's sleep. As far as seeking out real women, maybe he already had success there and found all the work they need to put into "improving themselves" to "get the girl" turned out to be a pyrrhic victory, and then he resents her for being a disappointment, and then associates that resentment with all the work he did just for her use…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:22 PM
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She’s posting them for herself! Right... She's posting it to get the ego boost she gets from validation from others who see the pic online.... men or not... i.e. it's literally for the dopamine hit when she sees the little blue thumbs-up pops up. How the fuck are bikini pictures and different from a picture of a giant fish you catch? Or a deer you shot? Or he’ll a fucking score on a video game? The latter all take some sort of concerted effort to accomplish. The equivalent would be posting a pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:56 AM
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I don't respect people who make make their living by manipulating weak and desperate people for money. Not the type of character that should be taught to potential children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:39 AM
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But you aren't challenging me. I'm not challenging your viewpoint in the sense that I'm contesting what you THINK you know? Your GQP rhetoric What's GQP... I'm not familiar with that acronym. Or did you actually think you could use the term "woketivist" and still be respected? *shrug* Most "liberal progressive" (i.e. "woketevist") thinking is logically unsound--- it literally ends up disqualifying itself by it's own standards/claims. mad about CRT and using the correct pronouns? The concepts in-…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:22 AM
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And you're proving my point... Stop, take a deep breath, and actually think about that for a second-- you're LITERALLY showing that you don't want someone to challenge what you think right here in this back-and-forth... you just want to be agreed with, and left to sit in your little "degree = smart" bubble. The truth is truly intelligent people WANT their position challenged because they know it's the only way to ferret out unseen holes in a given train of thought so they can refine their viewpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 08:03 AM
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"Attracted to" and "gawks at like a drooling moron" are two different things. Beyond that, if you're going by what women are reporting as "what men are attracted to", that's a problem because modern women have a warped idea of what men find attractive because they're often oblivious to men who are actually on their level that are interested in them because they've severely misinterpreted their own RMV... NO SHIT the guy who's an 8+ is going to have higher expectations for a female partner's attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:26 AM
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"intelligent conversation" is a subjective term... most women actually just want an echo chamber to what they already think they know. And it still also has nothing to do with your "education"... even more-so in the modern era for the same exact reason I listed above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:43 AM
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in 2021, Treating a modern women "well" is often what kills any chemistry you have with them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:59 AM
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I knew a guy who ran a successful small business that, while it didn't make him rich, was solvent enough to support a family of 6+. You would've rejected him because he never finished high-school. "Education" means fuck-all... especially in the current "woketivist indoctrination, anti-freedom of thought" era.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:52 AM
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So you're proving the point that the average woman has unrealistic expectations by stating that 98% of the male population is "undesirable". So why even bother doing all the work to go from a 4 to a 6 or a 5 to 7 or 8 if you're still going to be considered a 'scrote" because you're not a 9.8/10 (i.e. top 2%) that's willing to be some useless, hypocritical, narcissistic cunt's slave?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:17 AM
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...a partner making 45k is not [an impediment]? That’s shit anywhere in the US. Unless you sexpat-maxxed and live in Thailand it’s laughable I live in the upper-midwest and bought a 1200+ Sq. ft, 3-bedroom house on 40K/year. Mortgage payment was roughly 40% of my take-home income.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:45 AM
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She's not "helpless"... she's "useless".
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 08:48 AM
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I think they typoed and missed an "n't" in that title...
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 07:55 AM
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'Present an abundence mentality' and all that? You're thinking of "social proof"... which esessentially is just vetting by proxy.... i.e. if a guy is seen socializing positively with more attractive females, other attractive females will be more curious and open to him interacting with them as well. Having an "abundance mentality" is more about not being afraid to set healthy boundaries as a result of having "options other than her" (which don't necessarily have to be other women) in order to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:15 AM
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The statement itself (i.e. "women would rather share a Chad than have a beta to herself") is meant to be somewhat tongue-in-cheekly hyperbolic... i.e. it's more meant to show female disdain for betas rather than their willingness to capitulate for Chad "exercising options". It's the logical equivalent of something like "I would rather slit my wrists than work in retail again".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:24 AM
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A working class family in the past could afford, on a simple factory jobs wage, to have a home, a stay at home wife, etc. On his income. For one generation -- early 1950s to early 1970s. The height of American union membership. Want to bring back something approaching a livable wage -- bring back unions. LOL... The arbitrary rapid increase of the average household income during the 1970's creating a massive disposable income bubble combined with flooding the labor market with workers giving a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:05 AM
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like I honestly dont see such a big deal with women gaining a little weight? "gaining a little weight" is maybe 20-30 lbs on a woman who's 5'6, and starts at about 130-140lb before the gain. The OP is discussing a woman being Christina Ricci when they first meet a guy, and becoming Tess Holliday after he puts a ring on it...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:05 AM
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Lack of paragraph breaks/formatting also mean I'm not reading that shit beyond what popped up in my notification feed. Decent men stopped using OLD for a good bit of time now because it's essentially bashing your head against a wall... the male-to-female ratio essentially makes them sausage-fest to begin with, plus it's well known that a significant number of women on them aren't actually seriously seeking relationships... they're just using it to get free attention/ego boosts or to facilitate v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:19 AM
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Because for most of my adult life, I did actually want a family, but that didn't happen because modern women's expectations of men are so far out of whack with what's realistic for a normal, healthy relationship. Setting even the most minimal boundaries in expectations for a female partner in the modern era essentially disqualifies 80-90% of women. To be clear: "porn and video games" aren't out-performing women because they're so great, they're outperforming women because women have fallen that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:00 AM
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What does that have to do with him dating a 25 y.o? He's still dating her for her looks.... Men are biologically wired to be attracted to fertility and that the reproductive access they acquire is exclusive... They date her over the older woman because fertility is heavily tied to youth for women, and lower potential N-count due to less time in the "hoe-phase" (that in the current era gets stetched into a woman's 30's, if not 40's) is tied to being more likely to remain faithful long-term. Add t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:23 PM
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but men will select based on looks 90% of the time all the other things are just a bonus. Men select women on looks 90% of the time because, in the modern era, "other things" men want from women are often non-existent regardless of their appearance.... either that or the demands she's placing on a potential male partner are egregiously out of line. FTR: I'm basing argument on the experience I had after I actually took this to the extreme opposite of "chosing based on looks"... I took looks/sex c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:17 PM
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Just don't go for such girls. "such girls" make up 80-90% of the female population... only difference is to what extent they're like this. You'd have a far more peaceful life living with your hand than with such a person. It's not a good enough trade off for your mental peace, no matter how hot the female is. Exactly. The popular trope is women complaining about men being preoccupied with "porn and video games"... What they don't understand is the "porn and video games", figuratively speaking, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:27 AM
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No, the male version of this (i.e. "if you weren't with me on the way up, you don't deserve to be with me at the top") deals with a partner struggling with them from the start as they themselves proactively moved in a positive direction over time-- it literally deals with the partner's failure to have faith in and invest in her would-be male partner's ability to succeed.... it's basically saying "a woman that tries to latch on only after a man became successful without her instead of getting wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:01 AM
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The other option is dating a stuck up career bitch with an attitude problem.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 05:34 AM
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silly rabbit.. women don't make money... they just spend the money that men make.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 04:15 AM
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Truth. Crashes in this race are no joke. I remember the first year I watched it back in the early 2000's (haven't watched it in over a decade), one of the favorite contenders that year crashed and his pelvis hit the ground so hard it snapped the head off his femur. AFAIK, that's the thickest bone in the human body. That kind of force would be lethal if it happened in the wrong spot.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 04:02 AM
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I call them "alfalfa-males".
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 03:44 AM
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Traveling isn't even a hobby for them, it's only about social status. Exactly. Back in the day, i met up with a girl on OLD that said (and I stress said) she had been to 14 countries. I asked her which ones... she couldn't name all of them-- only got to like 9 or 10, and blanked. I asked her what she found interesting about the ones she remembered... the only things she could come up with were the well-known tourist traps that everyone knows about. Translation: she either never travelled at all …
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 03:27 AM
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$5 says she tries to peg Johnny as the father for child support, and they give it to her without an investigation of any kind.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 03:10 AM
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stick a picture of an ATM in the open spot the arrow is pointing to.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 02:49 AM
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MIddle-management... because they're too incompetent to either actually produce the product or actually LEAD the company into prosperity, and you get fined for not just firing them for being useless.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 02:30 AM
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GREAT! Let's create more weak, over-emotional (if not emotionally volatile), undisciplined, and useless men... all raised in purely female environments.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 08:51 AM
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to be more specific: Post wall = when a woman's attractiveness fails to the point that attention from men beings to noticeably wane. Dark Triad = Personality type made up of Machiavellianism, Narcissism, and Psychopathy. If you want more details, this does well enough (wikipedia,though, so take it with a grain of salt): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 08:39 AM
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Personally, I prefer knowing if the snake is poisonous or not before being told I have to handle it.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 08:31 AM
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omg im honestly not reading all that idc that much Oh sweetie... we both know you not only read it, but it tripped every little insecure switch in your spoiled little head.... which is why you responded to begin with (and then with nothing of real substance, but rather by getting defensive and spewing ad-hominem attacks). my value is intrinsic You can say it a billion times, still doesn't make it true. how many rich women have bought YOU dinner recently or even you know hugged you? Who gives a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:54 AM
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Because marital rape wasn’t against the law. Neither were "shotgun weddings"... which were literally someone pointing a gun at someone and forcing them into a government contract with another private party, as was the "white feather brigade"... where women shamed men for refusing to go to war... speaking of which, there's also conscription (i.e. what some people call "The draft"), which men have to comply to at the threat of imprisonment. Then there's the legal system that has been forcing men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:57 AM
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No, you're a spoiled child that thinks she's hot shit because she was born with a pussy and an allegedly has a fat bank account/stat-sheet full of supposed professional success-- much of which, for all we know given the current cultural climate, was more due to "diversity" initiatives rather than your actual merit. What does any of that have to do with filling the feminine role in a relationship? And you also said you had men propose to you... why haven't you said yes to any of them, and got tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:41 AM
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So being a rapist makes you a traditional husband? Funny, every single male role model I had growing up was a "traditional husband"...yet not a single one of them was a rapist. Then again, modern women think a man they don't like simply having a pulse while standing in their general vicinity makes them a "rapist".... all thanks to hyperbolic man-hating bullshit zeig-heil-feminist propoganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:13 AM
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my value is intristic NO, it isn't. NO ONE'S IS, regardless of gender. Men understand this, while women don't, because men are taught this practically from birth, while women, for some stupid reason, are taught they have value simply because they exist. And you're proving to be a quintessential example that that exact double-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:07 AM
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When it comes to committed relationships, your awareness/understanding/ability to be a wife is what determines your value... not your fucking resume. And I didn't "put words in your mouth". I asked what all that bullshit you spouted has to do with being a decent relationship partner... aka taking on the responsibility of being a WIFE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:42 AM
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Then the best way to do that is for both men and women to wait until marriage. That would require the laws concerning marriage/divorce to change, as well as a considerable amount of society-wide reprogramming of what women understand their role/responsibility as wife is. Traditionalism only works if BOTH sexes are expected to provide traditional VALUE to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:26 AM
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Anyone who says that, we're just going to assume it's measured in "dozens" or higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:07 AM
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Women think they deserve a ridiculous amalgamation of James Bond, Christian Grey, The guy from the Dos Equis commercials, an Outlaw Biker, and Ward Cleaver all wrapped up in a professional athlete's body. Men who want relationships want slightly kinkier version of Kitty Foreman without the wine addiction or the menopausal mood swings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:38 AM
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They break they rules for guys they like enough and they won't tell you about it out of shame because they know they lose leverage in acquiring a man's utility if they do. Fix'd. They don't actually feel shame about it... they just know it costs them access to LTR's down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:09 AM
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Women just aren’t having as much no-strings-attached sex as you seem to think they are. But they're also making a ridiculous amount of demands while severely diminishing what they offer outside the bedroom as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:07 AM
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Romance is dead and the Boomers killed it The saying is "Chivalry is dead and women killed it." Though you're mostly right about WHEN it happened (late boomer era)... it just took 2-3 generations to actually fall over completely and start decomposing. The "peak" of "successful egalitarian relationships" seems to be sometime during late Gen-X-- i.e. late 70's, early 80's... it's been downhill ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:05 AM
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Then when they get older they get "tired of the players" and start making beta guys wait. Great, so the "love of your life" gets to work himself into the ground for the the tired, fucked out bitchy version of those women. Oh boy! Sign me up for that shit....NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:50 AM
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Careful bruh... it's "muh soggy knees" to expect women to prove their character/loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:47 AM
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Blame hookup culture. It's made sex on the first or second date the norm. You can blame the rise of hookup culture on the "free love" era... which was largely pushed for by feminists wanting "sexual liberation". It's not men's fault women moved the goalposts later on and started demanding men be "traditional" again while expecting to still be "liberated" themselves, and now men are starting to tell you to fuck off all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:43 AM
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Men want to have control over women’s agency and consent. Because women still expect men to take most of the responsibility and bear all the burdens in relationships with them. To put it another way: women want men to be "traditional husbands"... without having to be "traditional wives" in return. Men are socialised to hate female sexuality. BOTH sexes' sexuality is destructive to civilized society if left completely unchecked... Women just don't want to admit that they're just as fucking greedy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:16 AM
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Most men (outside of incel chatrooms) don't want virgins, what really they want is Low-N count women (preferably below 5) Most men want women who are voluntarily capable of being faithful in exchange for a lifetime commitment of effort/protection/resources/etc. on his part... which is built into his biological imperative (men seek EXCLUSIVE reproductive access from females). The woman who's had a mile of dick run through her lacks the impulse control to be able to remain faithful when a man who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:04 AM
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Both "social proof" and "dread game" are effective at increasing female interest/investment of effort because BOTH trigger hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:51 AM
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Both want to view themselves as special. Neither even want a partner truthfully lmao, just the massive ego stroke but with minimal effort. Bullshit... most of the men I know expect to have to work at a relationship... but they're sure as fuck not going to work for free. It's the women that seem to want men to give them "traditional" value but not have to provide "traditional" value in return... because "muh shifting gender roles" and "muh independence"... blah blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:41 AM
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Women created the double-bind for men first by ceasing to police themselves so men know who to court for commitment (and who NOT to)--- now we have to vet you MUCH MUCH more severely which includes requiring you show sexual interest right from the start to ensure you're not jerking us around long-term. You gave up being deserving of courtship/romance/intimacy/security/safety when you stopped providing that exclusively to a decent male partner as a matter of life-long commitment... you wanted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:25 AM
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LMAO. im 21 years old, graduated top of my class, currently attending a school thats top ten percent nation wide, run a five figure digital marketing agency, all while doing cheer, being class president and doing a summer internship in Philadelphia that has already turned into a full time position when i graduate. What does any of that have to do with taking on the responsibility of being a WIFE?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:15 AM
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i am an extremely traditional woman No you're not. Not even close. I grew up with legitimate "traditional" women (as in Silent generation women)... they didn't scam men for free meals. You're a fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:11 AM
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honestly pretty good, i havent paid for my own dinner or cooked it once this week and im no longer invested in men to the point of crying over them lol And how many of those men have you committed to long-term you gold-digging, foodie calling cunt? You are the reason the manosphere exists... and the reason TRP became a PUA/pump-n-dump discussion board. You're the reason men don't want to pay for dates (if they want to go on them at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:00 AM
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Artificial elevation of females to think they're equal to men by giving them the same (if not more) benefits than men without forcing them to bear consequences, be accountable, and be responsible for others like men is what destroyed dating/relationships. Social Media and OLD just exacerbated that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:34 AM
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First, I'm a man who holds a masters in engineering, Then you'd think you'd be logically-minded enough to look at fucking reality, harsh and unpopular as it may be, instead of blinding following the female-centric thinking that avoids the truth. and realize that it's not a linear decline ...and neither is a surplus birthrate. FTR, the key numbers from my post aren't 4.65% vs. 350%... it's 1260 < 2100 < 4200. There's also this from my post:FTR, you can find further evidence of this if you go back…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:03 AM
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Does it also surprise you that Oncologists discuss cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:24 AM
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The idea that it’s the majority of women choosing assholes is classic nice guy fallacy. When you add the part that the majority of women complaining that they "can't find decent men" or that they get pumped-and-dumped, etc. are not making themselves something that legitimately decent men want to date, it becomes truth.... i.e. legitimately decent men flat out WILL NOT pursue shitty women (no matter how great those women think they are)... It never even gets to the point where she's rejecting him…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:10 AM
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To clarify: I stopped "dating" because I don't want kids anymore.... as a biproduct of that, it would be more accurate to say I stopped "approaching" rather than "talking to them" (my apologies for the semantic confusion). Take the one thing that women can physically do that I can't physically do for myself off the table, and the value of having any female partner becomes severely capped. Beyond that, even if they're "not all like that", the ones that are left ARE like that... which is why they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:24 AM
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As long as the dynamic is "men pursue what they want/women choose from available suitors", and women en-mass continually keep choosing asshole men while failing to make themselves something decent men with a spine want, it will always be their fault. You don't blame the cat if the mouse jumps into its mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:44 AM
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when it’s obvious the problem is the culture not the women. You mean the culture where women encourage each other to whore around like low class, men, and then society coddles their asses when they end up single mothers by shitty dead-beat men that those women chose to spread their legs for? Yeah, I agree... it certainly is the culture that's the problem. Men here behave abominably in dating and they do in every machismo riddled culture in the world That's because those are the men who women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:31 AM
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The primary exports of afghanistan are Gold, Grapes/Tropical Fruit/Nuts, and insect resins (and also poppy/opium, but that's not a legal trade).... they actually IMPORT oil (i.e. refined petroleum). Regardless, by the time other Middle Eastern countries "run out of oil" (something they regulate themselves to make sure won't happen any time soon-- they'll cripple foreign markets that rely on oil-consumption before they'll give up their "cash cow") they'll have infiltrated and overtaken much of eu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:21 AM
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Sigh... I know women can't fucking do math, but here: 4.65% infant mortality rate = 46.5 deaths per 1000 births. 4.47 kids per woman = 4,470 births per 1000 women. The children lost due to the infant mortality rate is counted in the 4.47/woman birth-rate number; 4.65% of 4,470 = 207 and change, rounded up to 208... so a net-positiive of ~4200+ births per 1000 women. Compare that to ~2 deaths per 1000 births, vs. a 1.26/woman birthrate (i.e.1,260 births per 1000 women) in Spain. Then consider tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:53 AM
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Do a google search for "<feminized european country> birth rate"... and then do a search for "<orthodox muslim country> birth rate" (the latter being those where women are largely not "empowered") and compare the numbers. 2.1 kids per woman is the cut-off point to maintain your own country's population (i.e. break even-- neither grow nor diminish) without requiring immigration (which will come from patriarchal countries that, unlike similarly feminized countries, have a growing population to exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:24 AM
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Women work too, they don’t want to deal with our messes either. Boo fucking hoo. I work too... and despite 50+ years of fucking bullshit feminism... its STILL usually my fucking money that actually pays the fucking bills. Guess what? I don't want to cut the fucking grass, still have to do it.... So take your sorry fat-ass in the kitchen and spend 20 min in front of a stove putting a decent meal together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:35 AM
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I tore my master bathroom down to the studs, installed all new fixtures, rewired it (including heated floor), re-plumbed it, ran the HVAC ductwork, drywalled it, tiled it, built all the cabinetry custom from raw lumber (not some cheap-ass Ikea shit)... essentially rebuilt the entire room. In the past I've headed, hung, and leveled windows and doors. I've replaced foundation supports in existing structures complete with new footings. I've run industrial lighting, installed drop ceilings, laid car…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:24 AM
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Bro there’s a difference between buying pillows from pier 1 and not eating frozen food or using fucking 2 in 1 (I actually see 3 in 1 more often) shampoo and ruining your hair lmao. I've used 2-in-1 shampoo my whole life and my hair has been healthier, softer, and smoother than all but maybe one of my exes. You know what ruins hair? All the shit women do to it-- the products, the heating, curling/straightening, the extentions, the dying, etc. All that shit is why women need to "properly moisturi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:04 AM
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I've heard "Eat. Shit. Die." as a popular alternative.... Personally I prefer "Crush. Driven. Lament." That is what's best in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:00 AM
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It's female solipsism at work-- Women think men can't function as adults because the ones who can and do are avoiding those women... so the women think those men don't exist. A woman’s value in a relationship is based off of many things unlike men who are judged mainly off of their finances. That's purely on women, not men. Women are the ones focused heavily on a man's finances, because that "leveled-up" (LOL) superficial/materialistic bullshit lifestyle is what they measure their own success by…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:56 AM
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Yes... women in Afghanistan are having 350% more babies than women in Spain (4.47 vs. 1.26 per woman) due to a 4.65% infant mortality rate.... Yeah, that's TOTALLY the reason... Get the fuck out of here with that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:00 AM
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That "fucked up" culture is the one that's going to survive, while the supposed "non-fucked-up" feminized culture is dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:44 AM
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So your argument is to use "equality" as an excuse for women to act like shitty men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:42 AM
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If you're bringing an eastern european girl back here, it's likely without 2-3 generations of her family maintaining the culture of her country of origin day in and day out. The rest is a no-true-scotsman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:23 AM
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Get a butch girlfriend and have her use a strap-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:44 AM
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So I will be alone doing the things that are important to me alone while also doing them for him like a servant (bc you know when the snacks come out he will be hungry). Maybe if you did those things because you saw it as having a sense of duty to the relationship with a man you supposedly love, instead of defaulting to the man-hating feminist victimhood complex bullshit, you'd attract a man who would actually proactively care what you wanted. FTR, I was that guy... I stopped being him (let alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:39 AM
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Being the town bike certainly diminishes your LTR score.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:41 AM
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Men still are lining up to court the hot girl over the plain Jane, Because women stopped offering men more than a body... if she's only offering a body, it better be the best damn body in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:38 AM
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The thing that matters is the birthrate in "feminized" cultures are mostly below replacement levels (and some are even significantly below recoverable levels)... while more hardline patriarchal cultures have surplus birthrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:29 AM
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It's actually anywhere from 65-90% depending on the demographics (economic, racial, education, religion, local legal specifics, etc.). Fun fact: men unilaterally file about 10-12% of the time... so even at the low end, women are bailing ~ 5 times more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:23 AM
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Men consistently show up empty handed at social events and let women clean up after them after group meals are over. And? The traditional gender role is why men used to court women years ago (nevermind that the husband was the one that would've done all the work to earn the money to PROVIDE all the shit his wife would be bringing to the beach in the first place back in the day... his contribution was WEEKS before hand, and likely consisted of hours, if not days, of his time). The fact that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:12 AM
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It's a preference for chastity Technically it's a preference for ability to be faithful... relationship minded men still want a good sex life within their committed relationships... chastity doesn't lend itself very well to that.... On a more basic level, it's male biological instinct (dominance; the male counterpart to Hypergamy)-- i.e. they seek EXCLUSIVE reproductive access from as many females as possible (i.e. she's only fucking him, ensuring his resources aren't supporting another man's of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:55 AM
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I believe relationship minded women who are not after your green card in some of these countries can be some of the most committed women you will meet. But you get what you put in. You also better stay in their country, where their behavior is in large part due to the culture there. Bring them back to the US and they'll turn into shitty American women (if they're not just being more covert about their own shittiness to begin with).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:47 AM
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Eastern Europeans want you to show up at their house with flowers and go the extra mile. They are definitely more conservative. If they're not also more trustworthy/reliable, then they're just more expensive trash... i.e. even more squeeze, for even less juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:43 AM
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Translation: women are mercenaries and not to be trusted no matter where they're from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:40 AM
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and I'm sure there will be plenty of big progressive divorces to go with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:33 AM
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We also don't have the xenophobia japan does either. Doesn't really change anything... females here are just as excessively demanding as japanese females are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:31 AM
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Don't be an disingenuous semantics-nazi... clearly it was hyperbole... most men on here assume they're fucking dozens before they're old enough to drink legally, not dozens per day. Geezus... there plenty of more worthwhile shit to call the babylonian trollup out on than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:25 AM
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Not exactly a straw-man when a significant number of women have multiple kids by (multiple?) shit men... but still think they deserve to a life-long commitment from a man of decent character after they hit their 30's and have no thing but baggage to offer him in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:53 AM
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Because modern women don't bring shit to the table outside of sex as RELATIONSHIP PARTNERS... and on the rare occasion they do bring some minimal amount of value, the cost of keeping them is so high it's a pyrrhic victory at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:49 AM
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So do men want want to be in relationships or not? Men want to be in relationships that are worth the work they're expected to put in... which requires the woman put in a similar amount of work... which women don't want to do... because female biological imperative makes her unattracted to the guy that she has to put work into keeping... especially in a cultural environment that coddles women like spoiled fucking teenagers. Guys also want the required investment in the relationship to end full-s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:42 AM
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That means no man gets a chance unless he's willing to commit. Commitment = provding resources... i.e. in some way, he's paying in exchange for sex.... and it's the women who create this dynamic, not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:40 AM
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Keyword: OR. Not “and”. Exactly what proves AF/BB.... i.e. They fuck "charming" hot guys OR "in relationships" (i.e. guys that aren't hot that give them resources).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:36 AM
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No shit I'd probably be dead... because other men would see me as a threat, duh. The thing is, so would the fucking so-called "alpha" men you "think" are so great... they'd all be killing each other as well... and for what? To have more of your useless asses spit out his crotch-fruit before he gets killed off by some other guy? Why do you think pair-bonded social structures (marriage) developed in the first place? By limiting men to ONE FEMALE PARTNER, and DISALLOWING FEMALES FROM ABANDONING THE…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:34 AM
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Or maybe some people are just genuinely nice. From a woman's solipsistic persepective, it's impossible for a man to be "genuinely nice" while still maintaining a masculine presence-- the idea as a whole is a catch-22. Unless he's essentially courting her with no expectation of reciprocation whatsoever (basically being a simp; being her bitch, i.e. wholly unattractive and unmasculine), then he's "just being nice to get something from her" and "hiding his true asshole nature". If he shifts his tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:46 AM
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douchey or dark triad traits are not in and of themselves attractive to women. maybe not "douchey" persay, but dark-triad traits are ABSOLUTELY attractive to women on a basic biological-imperative level. The aggressively violent, physical overbearing type is extremely high in dark-triad traits, and that's what females will gravitate to in an uncivilized environment... and when left unchecked by social pressure within a civilized environment, humans of either sex will default to their uncivilized…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:29 AM
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You can be nice to your SO and your future family while being douchey to everyone else. Translation: Be an asshole that's coincidentally magically nice to one arbitrary pretty-pretty princess because she exists. Dark-triad Disney-fication of relationships 101. Explain to me why I should consider any given woman to be the one I'm "nice" to instead of including them in the group of "everyone else" that I'm "douchey" to? but there are way too many dudes out there who will bend over backwards to ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:13 AM
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Neither is the lack of relationship awareness and/or contribution of the average female vs. their expectations from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:47 AM
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know what a healthy relationship is, I will cheat nor treat my partner like crap, etc. Yes you certainly will... every time you fuck a client.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:39 AM
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I will also note a man thats truly interested in more than sex really wanting to get to know a women will do more courting. The problem is that most women are increasingly becoming less worth getting to know, and the few that are do a shitty job of separating themselves from the crappy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:39 AM
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My husband and I have shared budget, all money is "ours" (communism!)... "snip for brevity's sake"... Out of curiosity, how old are you, and when were your parents born?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:29 AM
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A lot of these guys will just fundamentally never understand or accept the truth about why they can’t get women to pay them any attention. They understand, and many are even competent with women.... the problem is they also see long-term relationships with modern women as being severely overpriced... a pyrrhic victory at best..... i.e. busted pinto with a ferrari pricetag, juice not worth the squeeze, what do I want with a cow that only gives spoiled milk? etc. I.e. they actually GOT the girl...…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:17 AM
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Once I stopped caring about getting laid, I became utterly interested in relationships. Assuming you meant DIS-interested, same... except it was when I stopped caring about having kids. I got all the "pussy" I needed decades ago to know that "getting laid" is worthless.... If I just want to get off, I have a hand for that. Funny, you'd think not considering whether or not I'd have kids with a woman with would open up the pool of women I'd look at... but it actually capped their value by a consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:09 AM
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That's a funny way of spelling "FDS'er"....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:03 AM
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Because they don't value relationships with substance. Men generally find the RP because women didn't offer them relationships of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:03 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:28 AM
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Clearly the option where you have to both throw the shitty hotdog at an incompetent clerk then leave the 7-11 without the hotdog and still go buy your own damn 24 pack is the convenient option. For real... Walmart sells hot-dogs... just pick them up when you stop for douche. Pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:25 AM
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Troll attempt 0/10. Try again, cupcake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:14 AM
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Moth's fault.... Fleas are attracted to dirty dogs. FWIW, the analogy I use is "You don't blame the cat if the mouse voluntarily jumps into it's mouth."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:11 AM
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Either way, they are not hoarding women, women have their own free will and choose to be with them. So it's just hypergamy that is a threat to average men it's other men as well. Translation: Women are allowed to behave in an uncivilized manner, while men are being forced to remain civilized... which will ultimately lead to the downfall of a civilized society. The only reason "chad" is fucking someone else's wife is because it's illegal for that woman's "husband" to end chad's life... this in tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:28 AM
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As Kevin Samuels says: HVM don't cheat... they exercise options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:09 AM
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But you can be cognizant of removeing the thing that you KNOW caused them to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:29 AM
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Because it's the females choosing to date the older men rather than invest time building trust and connection with men their own age... and it's the shitty non-relationship material women in their 30's who failed to invest in the men in their peer group while those men were struggling through their 20's to be successful now in their 30's. Today's 20-year-old women will be tomorrow's 30-year-old rejects whose male counterparts will be dating tomorrow's 20-year-old women. Briffault's law 101: The …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:28 AM
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Make your own god damn hotdog you lazy ass entitled piece of shit. Am I doing the confrontation thing right? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:15 AM
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I have a theory about the modern internet and this generation: people are afraid to take risks. At least for men (since they're the ones who are expected to make all the up-front contribution), I'd say it's a matter of them becoming more cognizant of not only risk-reward tradeoff, but the cost-benefit tradeoff... i.e. even if they "win", what they're getting ends up not being worth the investment of time, money, energy, etc. they have to put into it... In other words, "getting the girl" has larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:12 AM
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To those following this exchange: One is a maturely feminine woman, the other is an emotionally stunted teenager that's addicted to unsustainable emotional spikes (FTR, I purposely left the latter of those two genderless). Personally, when I still bothered to date, I dated to find someone reliable that would contribute to the relationship on an every-day basis... not for superficial highes (truthful or not) that don't last and generally can't be maintained non-stop for 40+ years with the same pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:38 AM
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I think being honest and genuine is a lot easier/takes way less effort. It also results in a much more stable foundation to build relationships on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:20 AM
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the juice isn’t worth the squeeze because said juice is so bad that you get sick from it. I usually phrase this as "The conversation has moved on from "why buy the cow when the milk is free?' to "What the fuck do I want with a cow that only gives spoiled milk?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:19 AM
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Nah, that's just the shitty men you come in contact with... the male role models I had were always active with their kids, and there were certainly plenty of "traditionally male" chores that had to be done around the house.... and that's in addition to working significantly more hours outside the home than the women did. But that doesn't fit your bullshit man-hating narrative, so you don't want to have that discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:57 AM
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You're female, yes? Nothing you say is in the best interest of men, so we shouldn't believe anything you say... if anything, you have incentive to try to slander men who tell the actual truth. FTR, most of Kevin Samuels' content is telling women, not men, how they're fucking up their own relationship prospects. Paul Elam is a fucking MRA, so at best he's fighting a battle of futility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:08 AM
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not a substitute for sex and romance, The word you're looking for is intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:57 AM
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Remember kids... just be "more Alpha".... Nevermind that former NBA player Rick Fox wasn't enough... she left him because he made less than her.... yet his net-worth is 5 times what hers is.
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 03:07 AM
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But I don't want kids??? Then don't have intercourse. Or temporarily move somewhere that it's not illegal to get your tubes tied. Or take a vacation and engage in a little "medical tourism" to get the procedure done in a country where it's legal. You're allegedly a grown-ass fucking woman... act like it and stop whining like a fucking spoiled 5-year-old and expecting everyone else to cater to you. If you really wanted to be sterile bad enough, you'd find a reasonably safe way to make it happen. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:24 AM
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No, I said decent men were avoiding you like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:55 AM
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PIV-abstinence is 100% free and 100% effective, every time. So unless it's a legally-enforced practice where you live to put a gun to a woman's head and force her to have intercourse against her will, you have 100% autonomy over whether or not you reproduce. (Sidenote: Abstinence also comes with no issues with chemical incompatibility/side-effects, risk of failure due to human error causing improper application/use, no risk of failure due to defective product, no uncomfortable, painful and/or po…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:34 AM
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Nope. I interact with men just fine.... So you consider your own typical portrayal of your sexual experiences with men to be that of them wanting you to choke on their dick, give them painful anal sex, and how you feel like they're just using you to get off as "you interacting with men just fine". Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:53 PM
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But it's actually her fault? Authority without responsibility is tyranny, and responsibility without authority is slavery. As long as women have all the authority when it comes to choosing which men get access to reproduction, then they also bear all the responsibility for who the fathers of their children are. Her body, her choice, her responsibility to NOT RISK PREGNANCY by a piece of shit man. Because more women are always in favor of socialist policies? It's part of the nurture thing. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:46 AM
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In this example it would be the man's fault for being a shitty father because nothing the woman does makes him a better or worse father. SHE CHOSE OF HER OWN 100% AUTONOMOUS FREE WILL TO LET THAT PIECE OF SHIT BETWEEN HER LEGS... THEREFORE, YES, IT'S AT LEAST AS MUCH HER FAULT FOR CHOOSING THAT PIECE OF SHIT TO BE THE FATHER OF THOSE KIDS INSTEAD OF SOMEONE BETTER!!! You don't buy a busted 6th-owner pinto, then blame the pinto for not performing like a ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:05 AM
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So in your head, the word "men" is interchangeable with "murderer" and "rapist". Got it. Gee, can't imagine why decent men are proactively avoiding you like the fucking plague.... They're literally going out of their way to avoid showing up on your radar because of your shitty man-hating attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:47 AM
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....But there's another issue. Women just want to be listened to without much input. Men are the opposite. So it means that when men conform to women's style (just listen but do not offer solution), it's draining for men because it's pointless for them. When women listen like women (just listen without offering solutions to problems), then again it's pointless for men. On the other hand, the only downside for women is to receive unsolicited advice from men. They get to be listened to anyway. Sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:15 PM
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It has more to do with the fact that he's providing "husband" value for her while she's not providing "wife" value to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:53 AM
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You have not proven me to be objectively wrong. Since we're dealing in tastes, try conducting a survey to collect factual evidence. My argument has never been about whether or not one "taste" is better than another... it's been about you glaringly misrepresenting how the style of music the Beatles produced changed over the course of their career and using that faulty argument to bash men as alleged hypocrites with it. YOU tried to turn the discussion into something subjective and emotion-laden b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:12 AM
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statement about what makes a musical band good is an opinion. There is no standard measurement for enjoyability, and popularity is fickle. And I stated clear as day in the first paragraph in my last post that my argument was that your argument was based on your ignorance of the factual history of the band's musical progression, NOT people's preference for or against them at any point during their existence. You're the only one who injected any notion of who liked what being tied to them being "d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:52 AM
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I completely understand your position! You understand fuck-all. I could already do everything you say this guy did for you when I was in my mid- to late-20's, and was actively looking to build a family at that time. Even back then, I avoided females like you like you were the plague because you're what, in the long run, lands ignorant men in ruin... I could "smell" your bullshit from a mile away, and that bullshit is why I stopped risking kids without proof of your character first. Sorry, I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:02 AM
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No worries, I actually saw your post as reasonable and civil... And to a certain extent, your Freud example and the r/K selection example technically fall in line... essentially two related correlations for the same end-result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 01:04 PM
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When they date that same Chad and he is continuously broke and unable to even afford his own keep I PROMISE YOU HER RESPECT FOR HIM FALLS OFF A CLIFF. I’ve seen this situation happen many times. And, as a man who's had his shit together since he was 20, I'm going to tell that rachet-ass hoe she can turn right the fuck around and go back to that broke-ass fuckboy where she belongs... I wouldn't even consider letting that shit suck my dick let alone even hooking up with it. Forget any sort of AF/B…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:26 AM
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fake tan, long nails, extreme makeup ... thats a cliche. That's ghetto trash...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:02 AM
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The girls with the most guys are caked in make up. The looks men are super attracted to are not natural and they don't care when it is fake. Because both the women with caked-on makeup, and the women WITHOUT caked-on makeup have equally become largely worthless/unreliable as long-term relationship partners... so men that are still talking to you largely only look for aesthetics/casual sex because if that's all your offering, then it better be the best aesthetics/quality of sex you can present, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:59 AM
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The same can be said about looks and you guys put that on a pedestal. Because most of you don't fucking offer anything else we want. I had all the pussy I needed by the time I was 22 to know that "getting pussy" is worthless... so in order to make sure my unborn kids didn't end up with a psycho for a mother, I went PIV-celibate. I essentially took basic sex (and physical appearance as an extention of that) off the table as something women can offer, and looked almost exclusively at their worth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:52 AM
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Keep in mind "career women" are also proportionally more demanding than "broke" women. You're still thinking that her having a career and a paycheck is somehow going to benefit YOU... no, that just makes YOUR part more difficult.... you still have to be MORE than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:45 AM
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Smell your own, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:37 AM
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It’s attractive because it means that he has put thought and effort into his future wife and family. It’s security, it’s safety. He didn’t spend his youth messing around and now he needs a woman to come in and pick up the pieces. The problem is you expect to hop on his gravy grain at the last minute AFTER he's raking in all the benefits of building everything by himself... instead of doing the work of providing him with practical support while he took all the risks and broke his back laying the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:26 AM
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These are the same men who swear up in down they will reach peak attractiveness in their late 30s and 40s mind you because by then they will have money. Guys reach peak attractiveness during that time because that's when they'll have have the biggest overlap of both physical attractiveness AND money. Women are instinctively attracted to both... Men don't instinctively give a shit about a woman's money, up or down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:54 AM
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That’s a lie. Otherwise. Rich men would never marry supermodels half their age. Have you never heard of Sugar Dating? "Sugar Dating" doesn't involve commitment of any kind... they're 100% transactional by definition... he's literally paying her to be in a relationship with him... the only thing that varies is the method of payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:50 AM
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I found it to be the opposite... what kind of person a women is determines whether or not I want to proactively carry her off to bed or not-- mainly because I refuse to give pleasure to someone who hasn't earned the respect to deserve it.... aside from a hard-stop, binary "would fuck / would NOT fuck", appearance makes no difference... I still expect the "hot" chick to put in at least the same overall work (both in and out of the bedroom) as the "average" chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:21 AM
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Men get upset when they're expected to pay ferrari prices for something that performs like a busted 6th-owner pinto. They also get upset when it turns out investment they made (not just money, but also time, energy, and sanity) on something was a waste because it disappeared on a whim. I have no problem working for a relationship, but I don't fucking work for free, and I'm not going to destroy my long-term health just so you can spend more fucking money on frivolous bullshit. I'm also not invest…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:05 AM
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so if i get a boner from a woman whos in her 30s my PP is malfunctioning? Pretty sure you answered your own question...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:29 AM
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The Beatles were originally viewed as a boy band that was dismissed because girls loved them. Now that they’re popular with men, they’re “classic” and the music is exactly the same. This was your original statement. The fact that you assumed they were "dismissed" because "girls loved them" shows your female victimhood complex (as does the whole first paragraph of your last post, but that's another discussion)... they weren't "dismissed" at all, they were just initially recognized as being a nich…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:23 AM
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If that's the case, then it behooves women to grow the fuck up in their late teens/early 20's and invest their time/effort in men that actually show a promise of maturity and stability then instead of fucking around with a "hoe phase" and a bullshit career that only benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:45 AM
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You have it backwards. Going AGAINST "Hypergamy" (and the Dominance instinct in males as well-- i.e. where they're driven to "compete" against other males for reproductive access from as many females as possible-- i.e. polygany rather than monogamy of any form) is what's "socially constructed"... as in both sexes need social pressure to go against their biological instincts. This is exactly the purpose of one-to-one pair-bonded social structures (aka marriage), which are 100% human made concepts…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:39 AM
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Those numbers are skewed by the fact that a significant number of men don't have the opportunity to have kids at all until their 30's due to the selection preferences of women (I.e. men are "too broke to have kids" before they hit their 30's).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 10:01 AM
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No, it's "evolutionary" (or more accurately "biologically driven").... the same as hypergamy is for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:46 AM
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Because men actually first start hitting their peak "relationship" attractiveness during their early to mid-30's.... i.e. when they start to really hit their professional stride and their financial situation starts to solidify more significantly. Remember, in addition to physical attractiveness, women are also subconsciously attuned to a man's ability to provide as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:44 AM
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Redpillers want chaste women who are wild only with them. Redpillers are OK with chaste women who are not wild with them. RPs are somewhat OK with wild women who are also wild with them. RPs despise wild women who are chaste with them. Redpillers want a quality sex life with a faithful woman. If a woman's "wild" (aka promiscuous) she's likely not trustworthy LTR material, so the sex better come at little expense to him... the caveat here is that most modern women ARE NOT LTR material (and for re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:58 AM
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Well, being a fuckhole isn’t exactly a compliment to women but men think it should be, so it’s all even then. Yay, equality Most of this is actually all on women... the problem is women thinking that her being able to offer "a fuckhole" somehow makes them have more value than they actually do... then when the truth comes out-- that the more you expect to be handed because of your pussy, the more men treat you like you're just another pussy-- women blame men for being logical and treating them li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:43 AM
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I just dont get why people care so much about how "promiscuous" a woman is Because a woman who's sexually impulsive (aka promiscuous) is a bad bet to stay faithful in a committed relationship no matter what a man does... and in most modern western (read: Feminized) societies, men have no recourse to push back if a woman cheats on him.... particularly in legal arenas that heavily favor women, such as divorce/family courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:35 AM
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After college ? Jesus , that's hardcore. Only crackheads look like shit at 21/22 Gaining a shit-ton of weight and dragging around 2-3 of some fuckboys kids because she was too much of a "free spirit" during college compounds the unattractiveness as well. Then, of course, there's also the group that focused entirely on their careers and has no real relationship skills to speak of... physically hot or not, that girl isn't wife/marriage/family-building material.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:08 AM
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I don't think its pedo vibe, It's a matter of being subconciously attracted to peak fertility, which for women is heavily tied to young-adulthood (i.e. early-mid 20's)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:04 AM
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Mate. Let me know when MRAs actually start campaigning for the right for men to be effeminate or men to wear dresses? They don't. They never do. Uhm, that's because, legally, men have the right to wear all the lipstick and dresses and be as effeminate as they want now... exactly what laws do you want MRA's to lobby to change in this regard? That aside, what MRA's are trying to do for lipstick/dress wearing effeminate men is make it so when their wife divorces them for wearing lipstick/dresses an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:43 AM
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I'd add to that "survival" and city/base-builder type games to that list... stuff that often takes planning and management of resources and having to find solutions to issues that arise within the mechanics of the game, etc. Most of what you described though are competitive, and anything that includes competition includes strategizing and making adjustments on-the-fly... i.e. heavy amounts of analytical and critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:33 AM
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The Beatles were originally viewed as a boy band that was dismissed because girls loved them. Now that they’re popular with men, they’re “classic” and the music is exactly the same. LOL, no. No one in their right mind is going to put the Beatles full body of work in the same category as NKOTB, Backstreet Boys, N-sync, One Direction, etc. Furthermore, If "because girls loved them" is the only characteristic that makes a band a "boy band", then Elvis also produced "boy band" music, as did Frank Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 06:01 AM
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Both of those statements say far more about your choice of men/who you attract and also your ability in the bedroom than anything having to do with men in general viewing porn.... especially if those are the only two results you've experienced. Most men aren't watching that kind of porn (FFS, women are more likely to watch violent porn than men are). As someone that's consumed porn on a daily basis for over 20 years, and then the full spectrum of everything imaginable (including extremes beyond …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:33 AM
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Not worth the disease/pregnancy risk, nor is it worth the time and effort just for the same thing I can get from my own hand. Makes no sense to do all that work to be able to pay ferrari prices for something that performs like a busted 6th-owner Pinto when I already have a perfectly good F150 at the end of my arm. I'll just work one out (hell, maybe work 2 or 3 out), then get a good night's sleep instead, thanks. And that's before considering the idea that giving some undeserving female even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:13 AM
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though and while i agree that there are games that need cognitive thinking and some sort of skill, i still think that is not what the majority is actually playing... And what games do you think most men are playing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:12 AM
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Right... because once you include women in something, they inevitably turn it into something that heavily suits them, and as such it turns men off because they have to censor/restrict their behavior to suit the women... i.e. it stops being someplace they can go to actually let go, speak freely, and actually blow off steam.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:34 AM
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Yeah, and men make it hard for women to be themselves. Women wouldn't naturally spend 2 hours a day on hair and makeup, shave their entire body, wear painful high heels, stuff their bodies into spanx, diet, count calories, take it up the ass, fake moans, fake orgasms, put a copper claw into their uterus, giggle at things that aren't funny, heighten their voice, downplay their accomplishments We have to change ourselves to make ourselves fit for pubic consumption; it's called "we live in a societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:19 AM
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It is women leading these dominant social movements for a subset of feminine and passive males that are incapable of doing it themselves for obvious reasons. Great. Tell those same women, en-mass, they have to date those men, have life-long committed relationships with those men, and have those men's kids... and do all of that OVER more "masculine" men. Excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for it to actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:04 AM
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anime and video games to me is essentially wasting time on the couch (as is watching sports) Great! tell women to stop reading Harry Potter, Twilight, or any sort of Chick-lit, no more sleazy romance novels, no more garbage TV shows (basically any current series that's popular), no more rom-coms, no more hallmark channel, nor more reality TV, nothing. Basically take everything women like and throw it in the trash, because they're FAR WORSE when it comes to engaging in "time wasting" activities t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:42 AM
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99% of Men's standards aren't warped by porn... The only thing porn does for men who don't otherwise have a legitimate sex-addiction is give them a way to easier facilitate basic physical release so they're not walking around in a hormone-induced haze all day (the same as taking a piss in the morning relieves the pressure in their bladder).... in other words, porn makes it so women have to do more than just show up with a pussy to be seen as more than just another pussy. In addition to that, men…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:21 AM
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So giving twice as many reasons why men over 35 might be single that pertain to the behavior of women/effects of cultural shifts/effects of biology in general than "Chad being hot/rich means he doesn't have to commit" somehow makes me "obsessed with apex Chad"? LOL, k... you go ahead and keep right on thinkin' you got all us "manosphereans" figured out, princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:16 PM
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Great, now tell us how the lives of the 0.0001% has anything to do with the lives of the 99.9999% of men you think don't have "abundance"... whether or not the lives of the 0.0001% are what the other 99.9999% think they are doesn't change the experiences of the other 99.9999% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:19 AM
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Except none of that affects the behavior of "empowered" women... most feminized countries with relatively low crime rates already have more women than men now (not by a large margin, but still more), but their birthrates are all still in the shit-can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:11 AM
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I'd say an outside patriarchal culture would overtake them before that happens (even if it would just be through immigration, out-populating them, and installing their own culture), but in theory you're not wrong. Even if you what you describe happens, extreme as a hypothetical example as it is, that's still an example of a patriarchal culture overtaking a feminized one... i.e. the feminized society would cease to exist in favor of a hard-line patriarchal one where the females no longer have rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:01 AM
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Except "race" as it pertains to "culture" still does play a part in the civilian sector because people aren't forced to adhere to the same lifestyle structure like they are in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:51 AM
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shrug You supposedly have all this worldly knowledge... share some insight on the other points with the rest of the subreddit... even on the off-chance you agree with it, other women seeing that sentiment from another woman will help them better understand where they stand with the other 99.9999% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:36 AM
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[Military bases] - by far - the most diverse places in America. They also force everyone to assimilate to a common military life regardless of background.... such is not the case in the civilian sector.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:40 AM
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Except the "feminized" cultures are dying out (sub-replacement birthrates), while the more hard-line patriarchal cultures are the ones producing surplus kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:35 AM
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There's also the "Idiocracy" factor....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:15 AM
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When it's the females choosing not to have kids, the number of males in your society doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:56 AM
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Also doesn't help that when that happened, people initially still stayed together, so the average household income basically doubled, which in turn caused the market to re-normalize to something where the average household now requires multiple working-class incomes per household to cover the same thing that a single working-class income would cover before. (FYI, this is the fault of the people living too close to their means instead of using that 2nd income primarily a a "safety-net" of sorts).…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:42 AM
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They're also don't provide for their own kids... the government does that for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:33 AM
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nor do they want to date a "career woman" who might be difficult to control. Try highly uncooperative, self-aborbed and narcissstic. i.e. not so much a matter of "control" but more a matter of them refusing to voluntarily contribute a reasonably sufficient amount of effort for the relationship, while having disporportionately sky-high expectations for men (the whole "strong-and-independent" for her, "traditional expectations" for him hypocrisy). This also isn't a thing unique to South Korea... i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:31 AM
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They've actually found that the economic, professional, and educational advancement of men has almost no effect on birth-rates in-and-of-itself (i.e. When ONLY the men advance as a whole in these regards, but women do not, there's little change in fertility, up or down).... it's only when women become "empowered" that birth-rates significantly decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:03 AM
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Nobody is giving birth to 10 kids now on the regular. I'd say this is more of an expense/time issue moreso than a child-mortality issue. About 40-50 years ago, we went from needing a single, working-class income to support a family of 4 in a single home to needing the equivalent of 4 incomes spread over two separate households (which also requires double the time to maintain in the practical sense) to support the same 4 person family unit... while at the same time experiencing wage stagnation du…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:52 AM
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Didn't say your experience was false, I said it was disingenuous to the larger discussion to ignore the parts that potentially apply to the other 99.9999% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:10 AM
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You missed the point... they're not avoiding intimacy... women are failing to provide it to them when they provide it themselves, so they're seeking intimacy elsewhere. Intimacy isn't hard to figure out... take everything that you expect men to do for you to "show intimacy", and do the female equivalent for him. Most women aren't aware they have to make any effort at all, let alone are they willing to go above and beyond to actually match what they expect from a male partner.... nevermind take t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:01 AM
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And my post had more to it than just the points about the top .01% of the .01%. Ignoring the rest of my post is being disingenuous to the discussion as a whole. This is especially true when considering the fact that the men in the other parts of my post still have "abundance", persay... it's just a different kind of abundance than the "top .0001% of men" you focused on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:53 AM
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I literally just wrote "both sexes need social pressure to go against their own biological programming in order to facilitate... civilization"... Religion is one method, yes. It could also be done by secular means... but right from the start that requires taking away all all the lop-sided, artificial protections, benefits, privileges, etc. females enjoy now, and that they be forced to endure the consequences of their own bad decisions/behavior to the same extent that men are forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:32 AM
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First, China, Japan, and South Korea have all been heavily influenced by western cultures, and all are extremely "feminized" or well on their way to being so. And none of this is a new development, so the trend isn't likely to change in the next 5 years-- and without a serious turn-around in birth-rate, they'll still eventually fail due to demographic winter even if they don't get outright overtaken by another culture. In Japan specifically, their population decline has been an issue for decades…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:03 AM
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Already did... which is why I knew how to avoid shitty women... Not my fault that 80-90% of women don't know how to not be shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 10:41 AM
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They're still the ones with growing populations. That's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 10:39 AM
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Total load of horseshit that only applies to extreme cases of deeper sex addiction outside of porn. The average man at most uses porn to facilitate working one out so he can go about his day with a clear mind instead of being in a constant hormonal haze. Women just don't like it because it means they actually have to put effort into being seductive and into actually being competent lovers instead of just showing up with a set of female parts to play with and demanding he do all the work. Anti-po…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:47 AM
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Snow in spring isn't uncommon where I live... I once ran a track meet with snow on the ground in early May. So what exactly is your point? That you have no rebuttal? FFS, back in the 1970's, my oldest sister was handling the bulk of the traditional female role for a family of 6 (her, my dad, and her 4 younger siblings) at 16 years old after her mother died in addition to handling high-school (the equivalent of a full-time job). When her grandmother asked her if she needed help, she just nonchanl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:18 AM
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Ok, tell us what there is to like about you besides all your weight sitting in your tits and ass? What postiive, proactive feminine qualities do you bring to a relationship? What do you, as a woman who allegedly has a sense of duty to your future family, in particular the man who would give you life-long commitment as a husband, expect to have to make sure is handled so no one else (particularly your husband) has to worry about it? What are you doing to outwardly separate yourself from other tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:51 AM
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Your father grew up in a different time, when most people got married were expected to have grown the fuck up by late teens - early 20s, and had their first kid by mid 20s. That goes for both sexes... though men have far more pressure on them to get their own shit together earlier than women in that people are much less likely to help men if they fuck up their own lives than if women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:25 AM
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There’s a theory that men that are unattached at that age are avoidant types—have difficulty forming meaningful connection because they evade intimacy. I'd say it's more that they've gained a better understanding of what "Intimacy" actually is, and they've realized that women don't actually offer it themselves while they certainly demand superficial versions of it in larger and larger amounts the more they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:20 AM
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if the idea that 35 year old women are damaged goods makes sense to you, then why not extend that to 35 year old men also? Men are often first hitting their professional stride (i.e. when they become the most attractive outside of looks-- i.e. debt is starting to clear, possible promotes looming, etc.) at 35.... remember J-lo's fancy little headline quote: "Men are under 33 are useless"... so in 2021, by the time men actually become "useful" in most women's eyes, the women have severely declined…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:18 AM
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Owned my own house and lived alone for 20 years... if I stay on top if it from week to week, I need about 6-7 hours a week to take care of the entire property... and that includes cleaning the whole 1250 sq. ft, 3 bedroom/1.5 bath house from one end to the other (i.e. vacuuming/dusting/etc.), meal prep for the week, a week's worth of laundry, a week's worth of dishes (washed and dried by hand), plus routine yardwork. Add an hour to that for grocery shopping. And aside from the first few years, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:56 AM
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It's not "maid work" at all... it's called "being a wife"... All the women in my family did it despite working full-time as well... and if they were home full-time, they also handled 80% of the "traditionally male" household duties as well as a matter of having a sense of duty to their home and family... and then the kids also were expected to help out as well as soon as they were old enough to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:38 AM
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We aren’t settling anymore into crappy marriages because of fertility. Then stop dating shitty men and being shitty women in your 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:20 AM
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Men can date decades down and can also have kids into our 80’s. ...and then die before those kids hit pueberty.... when they're needed the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:19 AM
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shrug nature is what "forces women to have kids", not me. If a given culture's women don't have enough kids, that culture dies out, plain and simple... and feminized cultures tend to have insufficient birth rates to sustain their own numbers. Meanwhile hard-line patriarchal cultures generally have surplus-level birthrates... i.e. they have an excess of population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:30 AM
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80% of billionaires are married And they also make up .01% of the .01%... and they're marrying women much younger than themselves, so my point remains. They're also getting divorced in increasing numbers, so don't expect that to last even at their level. and model men are almost never single but constantly in relationships. Yep... they're "serially" in relationships (same as women generally are)... i.e. constantly rotating down to dating younger (read: more fertile) women, because they can. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:21 AM
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ignorance is bliss, eh? It's actually westernized (Read: feminized) cultures that have declining birthrates, and more hard-line patriarchal cultures are producing an excess of population. Examples (and remember that 2.1 is the break-even point, and 1.6 is the "point of no return"): Germany: 1.57, Spain: 1.26, Italy: 1.29, Finland: 1.41, Norway: 1.56, Portugal: 1.42, Russia: 1.57, Austria: 1.47, Ukraine: 1.30, Greece: 1.35, Now compare those to more hard-line patriarchal countries that are heavil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:52 AM
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Jordan Peterson was referring to it as "enforced monogamy" a while back... The problem is it has to be ingrained in society in some way... both sexes need social pressure to go against their own biological programming in order to facilitate better long-term outcomes... i.e. for "civilization" to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:38 AM
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Define irony: Someone claiming that the thing that actually facilitates the advancement of society is primitive... Either that, or it's "reading comprehension, FTL" on your part... And how exactly does a man refusing to marry/reproduce with uncivilized females knowing they are bad for the advancement of evolved society make him a neanderthal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:36 AM
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it's not a bad heuristic, as it kind of filters out psychopaths who hide their true nature. Except that numerous otherwise "normal" women still end up getting knocked up by guys that turn out to be psychopaths (the epidemic of fatherless kids didn't just fall out of the sky...)... and they slept with those men because other women also found them attractive. And then they bitch that the guy following the "standard life plan" doesn't want her because of point #4 in my list..,. possibly 3, 5, and 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:27 AM
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I'm most likely going to get a prenup next time, and I'm damn sure going to get her to sign something saying she will have children. Good luck with that... especially point where you expect the court to force her into incubating a child against their will if she choses not to have them. Beyond that, Pre-nups get thrown out all the time... it's common enough that mothers are even starting to warn their sons of it. In 2021, they'll almost always require an expiration date be added (i.e. they contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:23 AM
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Great, now account for the other 80% of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:42 AM
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It's the opposite... at their basic primitive level, Humans are just animals-- men are polygynous (i.e. they compete for as many exclusive viable mating partners as possible-- and take them by force if necessary) and females are serially-monogamous (i.e. they stay with one partner until a better one presents itself, then abandon the previous one... if he wasn't outright killed by the new partner). That "life script" (100% human-made, one-to-one, life-long pair-bonding social structures... such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 10:18 AM
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He's not holding on to his ability to run away from his family (that'll be taken away from him and handed to her anyway regardless of whether they were married or not). He's holding onto the ability to escape an abusive spouse without having to chop his own leg off and hand it to her to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 10:10 AM
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I wouldn't even do it for the sake of children. In 2021, Marriage does absolutely nothing to keep people t together.... except to force men to stay with abusive wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 10:04 AM
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"You'll settle down eventually." Yeah, maybe I already AM settled. EXACTLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:59 AM
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Men generally don't want kids any more at that point... for a plethora of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:58 AM
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Just remember that feminist utopia where women are free to choose not to have kids still requires a birthrate of 2.1 kids per woman to maintain it's own native citizen population numbers... below that, and your population is declining. And if you're culture's population is declining, your culture is effectively dying out... Go below that, and you need to start importing people just to maintain your own society... and if all the societies that are similarly feminized to yours also have declining …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:56 AM
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Same here. I see myself relatively unscathed, and I thank the example of my family's example during my formative years so I had something to gauge bad relationships by. Only point I disagree on is that, even on a secular level, that "lifescript" (as in a social structure of one-to-one lifelong committed relationships) is somewhat necessary to keep a civilized society balanced and functioning. Letting either sex get out of control results in some version of a collapse... men get out of control, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:31 AM
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Reasons a guy over 35 might be single: He's fucking rich and he's banging a different 20 year old sugar-baby every night of the week without having to commit to any of them. He was born with genes that gave him exceptional physical aesthetics, so he's also banging a different 20 year old thot every night (regardless of any glaring character flaws, including being broke, prone to violence, rap sheet, etc.) without having to commit to any of them. He grew up in a stable healthy family with quality…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:02 AM
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blah blah blah, shaming doesn't work bruh.... especially since I'm coming not from a point of TRP, but rather direct, first-hand observation of how the behavior/attitudes of females changed spanning the last 100 years... women USED to actually be worth fighting for, the average female now, LOL, no way. And I'm pretty sure that women care that they're not being pursued by men they want... but fuck all if they'll bother to learn that they're the reason they're not being pursued... that THEY are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:55 AM
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Maybe, but such is not the case with the majority of women. If it were, it would solve a lot of the problems. FTR, this is what it used to be... women use to police themselves in this regard so men knew who to pursue... now they're more likely to encourage each other to act shitty, then lie about it to screw men over... so men have no choice but to adjust their own strategy just as a matter of self-preservation... nevermind finding a suitable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:30 AM
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The person I quoted made it personal herself by saying "this is what I [read: herself, specifically] did". It's literally shown in the part that I quoted, and I pointed this exact fact out in the first two lines of my post. FTR, this response on your part highlights another problem with gender relations: outside observers (particularly those in positions of supposed "authority") frequently making cacamamie excuses for immature, self-damning behavior by females that they choose of their own free …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:04 AM
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Exactly, which is why men should not court women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:13 AM
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And how old are you? And why the fuck would I be Jealous of having the specter of having my life completely ruined on a whim hanging over my head day in and day out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:11 AM
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So do men. And we worked a lot fucking harder to get what to where we get to than you do, because NO ONE helps us. There is no pussy-pass for men... and that goes all the way back to pre-kindergarten years. And yes, clueless is what I mean... as in "beautiful and talented" women tend to have no clue about the rest of the world, particularly what men actually want from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:10 AM
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So pursuing women is a waste of a man's time. Got it. Point of proof logged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:07 AM
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Imagine unironically believing a woman being "beautiful and talented" (which I'm assuming means "professionally accomplished", well traveled/read, etc.) automatically means they're also decent relationship partners that can actually connect to a partner. I've found these types of women to be the most clueless about men and and the most projective of what they want in a man to be what men should want from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:04 AM
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I was single, just wanted to get fucked at that moment and he was there and it was convenient. If there were any mitigating factors it was safety (is he not a psychopath), anonymity (am I likely to ever see him again or will fucking him affect my rep). Most women I knew who were not hoes were like this too. It just happened. No planning, no intent, no overthinking, it just happened. IDK maybe it’s a generational thing. And When that same "I just want to get fucked an he was there and it was conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:58 AM
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A man who wants to pump and dump is not waiting around months, 6 months, to do so that's a bit much. If you make them wait those guys just walk themselves out the door, the only ones left are the ones who actually want to be with you. A man who wants commitment but not a dead-bedroom or cheating wife or divorce down the line also isn't going to wait around for a woman who isn't showing up front that she's sexually into him (along with effort outside the bedroom, but that's outside the scope of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:25 AM
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Where on earth did you get those ideas? The behavior of women, duh. Women fuck asshole men all the time. At the end of the day, if he's hot, he's probably not an incel in the first place because women are ignoring all the red flags because they want to fuck the hot guy. Meanwhile, an ugly guy who does or says the EXACT SAME THING as the hot guy will be considered a creep because the physical attraction isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:36 AM
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(i feel like many high earning professions may attract people who score higher than average in triad characteristics, idk). They're the only ones that are neurotic enough to put all the hours necessary to be successful for those high-earning professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:46 AM
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The small portion of people who can get through the schooling/work hours and be highly effective doctors (especially specialists) also tend to score higher than average in Triad personality characteristics... so you're not entirely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:44 AM
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Idk what it is about it but oftentimes it seems like a profession that attracts arrogant people. It's the opposite... women throw themselves at doctors due to the money/status factor... in doing this they jack up his ego, and create the abundance that allows him to be arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:27 AM
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although disheartening because it confirms that these guys think I'm unattractive and that's why they're so forward Doesn't necessarily mean they thought you were unattractive physically... might just be that they weren't looking for an LTR's period... And let's be real... guys looking for LTR's are also increasingly turning away from OLD as it tends to yield terrible prospects... they're mostly for hookups, the females on them tend to have zero relationship awareness/skills, or are even just lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:24 AM
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I am not 100% happy in monogamy, because I have a need for sexual variety (much more than my wifey) That's why women need to up their bedroom game... not just show up with a pussy and make demands. The judgement day comes when they actually want to settle down and there is a lack of high-quality men willing to do that. ... I talked to a few of them much later and they were expecting me to consider taking them back. Lol. In other words, they still haven't actually been "checked" on a cultural lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:43 AM
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However, I see the value of a monogamy in a long term stable relationship where we can have children. It's a good balance for both parties. So in other words, you DO want monogamous relationships, because as you say, "that's what's best for both parties". This concept is the only reason civilized society exists. Monogamous Pair-bonded social structures (such as marriage) are meant to check both sexes' basic instincts (i.e. hypergamy in females, polygany/dominance-instinct in males) in order to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:51 AM
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OOF that brings up back to seeing SJWs telling men to shut the fuck up and men. The difference is that no one asked for the SJW's opinion... women are asking "where have all the men gone", but then telling men to shut up when they answer the question. Who said that? I find them just fine. If they're offering to commit to your FDS ass, they're clearly part of the other category I mentioned.... especially if you're also turning them down. Now, back under your little pink bridge, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:42 AM
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What do you propose we do about it? Force women to pop out babies with men they aren't attracted to? Stop coddling women and actually force them to legitimately be "independent" and accountable for their own actions/decisions/etc.-- no more welfare, no more alimony, no more child support (aka stealth alimony)-- you fuck the wrong guy and get knocked up, it's your problem since you're the only one with post-conception reproductive rights. No more gender quotas in education nor the professional en…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:34 AM
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It's matriarchy and chill until a more patriarchal culture with higher birth-rates claims their territory/resources and they either assimilate or die out. ...and I'm talking mostly about pure instinct here... Matriarchal social structures only naturally manifest in wild environments when the animals have no threats... For example, Elephants are matriarchal because their size and strength make it so they have no outside threats. Another example is Bonobos... in the wild, they really only exist in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:18 AM
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Women still expect to be courted in the traditional sense, but then they bitch about "unpaid labor" or say that "gender roles have shifted" when they're expected cover the traditional female role that made them worth courting "pre-liberation" in the first place. Simply put, it's the audacity for most women to expect a long-term relationship structure based on "traditional behavior for HE, but progressive, self-absorbed pseudo-independent narcissism for SHE" that makes them spoiled children. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:57 AM
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Yep... and she can even chop his leg off and take it with her if she chooses to leave.. But if she becomes a fat lazy pig, he essentially has to chop his leg off to get away from her... and then he's still forced to support her fat lazy porcine ass after the fact... because she's a "strong and independent woman who don't need no man" and "knows her worth". FTR, both of these situations aren't limited to just family courts/legal arenas... he's also automatically put on trial in the Court of Faceb…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:16 AM
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No woman I know is going to date an incel because they are hateful, misogynistic, and toxic to be around. And any man she's not physically attracted to that levies legitimately reasonable criticism of women is considered exactly those things... You're just espousing another version of the "creepy behavior is only creepy if I'm not physically attracted to him" concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:35 AM
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And that’s a double standard. It’s sexist, and it should be equal. Then women need to start doing the approaching and pursuing as much as do.... because it's sexist to expect men to do all the work in the relationship while women sit there and expect to be catered to like spoiled children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:21 AM
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TRP (and really the manosphere as a whole) is a reaction to the behavior of women and also society as a whole towards men... the more feral they get, and the more society makes excuses for them behaving badly, the more TRP is going to see them as part of the "for sex only, and then GTFO" demographic and not see them as LTR material. Make long-term relationships a worthwhile concept for men where they actually have some recourse when women behave badly, and TRP'ers will engage in them again. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:18 AM
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FDS is a case study on this topic. Don't get much more "low value" than females who consider simps, servants, and slaves to be "high value males".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:26 AM
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That's because the men who WOULD add a net-gain to a woman's life aren't talking to them... because 80%+ of women aren't what men want (and that goes WAY beyond looks), and the other 20% are taken before they're 30. Look, as long as the dynamic is that men pursue women, it's on the women to be worth pursuing. Until a woman does that, she has no grounds to complain that men don't add anything to her life because she's not walking her own talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:39 AM
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Back in that era, women would have learned how to be worth wifing up before they left high school... by that point they would've already had a solid understanding that being a "wife" isn't a title or an award, it's a responsiblity, the same as being a "husband" is. Women now still don't know what the fuck they're doing when they're pushing 40 and beyond...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:07 AM
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On today's episode of "Proving My Point"....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:54 AM
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I think more and more women would rather die alone than end up with a man they don’t want. And now that women can be financially independent and are no longer shackled to men, I fail to see why abstaining is a bad option. It might spur more entitled male rapists/murderers who go on rampages I guess. That society's birth rate plummets and it dies out while being overtaken by more anti-feminist cultures. This exact concept exists everywhere in nature... the only place "matriarchy" takes center-sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:12 AM
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*shrug* When your pussy is the key reason you expect men to bow down to you, don't be surprised when men only see you as just another pussy. What he does after that realization depends on what type of relationship he wants. If he want casual sex, he'll be a good little show-dog and jump through all your hoops and/or pass all your stupid little tests... if he wants a long-term relationship, he'll take actions that ensure you never find out he even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:06 AM
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Men on this subreddit (as well as TRP, and the manosphere as a whole) are far more realistic than the women on this and many other dating subreddits think they are, and they're perfectly capable of communicating that. The problem is that women just don't fucking know how shut the fuck up and listen in order to find a constructive, mutually beneficial solution... and men aren't going to waste their time bashing their head against a brick wall to get their point across... they're just going to let…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 08:56 AM
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Most women don't actually add a net-gain to the lives of the men they want... and we're not allowed to point this out to them because, in 2021, any remote criticism of females is considered "Misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 08:27 AM
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Translation: even other women can't stand their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 07:45 AM
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And men like women who can actually think rationally and not get sucked in by radical feminist hyperbole/fear-mongering horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 07:41 AM
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Yeah, once she's hit the wall and her own looks are gone, sure... the problem is that same woman who "doesn't care about looks... when it's time to settle down" also didn't develop any relationship awareness/skills, so even the "non-looksmatch" men don't want those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 07:40 AM
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Like you sell a coke through advertisement you can advertise for your job". Here's the first major flaw in your understanding of how the employer/worker transaciton works... most people think it's the employer's job to "sell" a job to the worker... No. It's the worker that's the SELLER, and the Employer is the BUYER... with the good or serivce being exchanged is the worker's LABOR. Let the concept sink in for a second because it's directly related to the supply vs. demand imbalance I'll talk abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:50 AM
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Part of doing the whole "feminine" role thing means to stay quiet and let him think he knows or is able to understand things that you don't. Like fucking hell it is... that's man-hating feminist hyperbole and fear-mongering. Not once have I ever heard anyone who wasn't a complete fucking moron (aka almost no one) say "women should be seen and not heard" or anything of the sort... and I know this was not the case traditionally because I have first hand, life-long experience dealing with people fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 05:18 AM
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a lot of... RPers on this site want their cake and eat it too. They want a unicorn where the girl is very low N but still sleeps with them immediately. That double-bind was put on us by "sexually liberated" women... they changed the narrative, so now men have to adjust their strategy to make sure she's not so impulsive sexually that she can actually be trusted to maintain her end of an LTR, but also still sexually attracted to him enough to not be jerking him around just for utility and will fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:03 AM
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I have only ever heard it described as a conscious decision women make before they DECIDE to settle down ... Except she's not the one deciding... it's the lack of attention that's doing that for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:35 AM
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If you fail at getting a relationship you will fail at getting casual sex. If you fail at getting casual sex you will fail at getting a relationship. Disagree... right here in this forum it's not uncommon that women say they will give it up right away (i.e. have casual sex) with a guy she has no interest in a LTR with, but will make a guy she does want a LTR with wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:28 AM
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Bad news for all of you "I don't want to have casual sex." guys, (which, sidenote, is bullshit, you just don't want to put in the work), Uhm, Duh? Of course I don't want to put the ridiculous amount of work into "casual sex" with a woman. why would I go through all that trouble for something I can replace by fucking my own hand? That's what "casual sex" is... it's just a masturbating with another person's body... There's no connection, there's no deep mutual respect, nothing... there might be so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:19 AM
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It would also calm down political debates, no minimum wages would be needed anymore because everybody can negotiate wages freely without the pressure to be homeless if you get not hired. LOL, if everyone has all their living expenses paid, you actually think they're going to look for jobs where they have to negotiate pay? LOL, good luck with that! You can parrot all the Andrew Yang UBI horseshit you want, but the truth is that it's just another form of welfare, and will become just as bloated as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:08 AM
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The ones that do aren't talking to the women who became shitty entitled feral animals due to their so-called "independence"... because those women are shitty relationship partners-- they've effectively become the female version of the men they wanted to be "liberated" from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:45 AM
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Every woman knows you instantly look more attractive to men if you play down your intelligence. Incorrect. What matters is what you're intelligent about. As far as seeing you as relationship material goes, men will at best be indifferent about your educational/professional accomplishments as those are masculine qualities.... they my respect you for those types of accomplishments, but they won't be the core of why most men want to be with a woman. What starts to push a woman in the positive direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:03 AM
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*Shrug* my answer would be "nah, I don't even need you for sex."
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 12:44 PM
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Read my post again. I said men largely left the profession because they were being FORCED to teach the shitty liberal agenda instead of focusing entirely on the actual academic material... the OPPOSITE of what you interpreted me saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 07:46 AM
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Forget the money... men were run out of the teaching profession because they expected to actually teach the actual objective academic class material, but schools expect them to push an extreme liberal political agenda instead... which only got worse the more teaching became an excessively female-dominated (read: feminist) profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 10:22 AM
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It already does... but it essentially consists of low-key sex-change hormones, and they basically kill the man's libido and makes him over-emotional (like irrationally so) along with making him sterile. FTR, there is a male BC method that's been in development for some time that's hormone-free, and, in early tests, has been 100% effective in preliminary tests, and would potentially be 100% reversible. It's called Vaselgel, and it's essentially a substance that gets injected into the same tube th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 09:46 AM
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Approx 75% of these types are male and they always appear ‘nice’ until they trap the victim. No, she just ignores all the red flags because tingles. The rest is all hamstering after not recognizing this one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:50 AM
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AF/BB confirmed. You make the guys you want LTR's with work their asses off, but the guys you don't want LTR's with you'll risk getting knocked up by for more or less free.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:47 AM
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I've done this on POF with a female profile with NO pic... that profile got more attention than a male profile with a slightly above-average looking pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:42 AM
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I disagree on the mental differences, because there are more similarities than differences ...and a chimpanzee's DNA is only 2% different than a Human's... Sometimes (probably more often than people think) it's that 2% that makes up most of the difference.... even on the demographic level as opposed to individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:00 AM
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Natural Selection at play.
/r/MGTOW05/03/21 07:57 AM
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how to turn V-day into VD-day....
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 11:01 AM
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How long was it before you ghosted her?
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 09:49 AM
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My own fault, but I feel low-rent rickrolled... I hear "Shawn T" and I expected to see the "Insanity" workout guy... and I'm like "No way, that guy's a doctor?"... heh. Video looks intersting just the same though... I'll check it out when I have more time and not at work...
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 09:44 AM
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OR.... She's just a shit woman that can't attract a genuinely decent man.
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 09:01 AM
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No, that was actually you... the meds artificially turn you into something that resembles a civilized human being...
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 08:42 AM
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Apparently they pay them in Donuts....
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 08:36 AM
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Should've called the police and told them so when the report from the gas station comes in they know who to look for.
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 08:13 AM
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I always phrase this as "Mansplaining only exists if you're she-tarded".
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 07:38 AM
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You cherry pick people's comments and ignore key parts of their points a lot.... Just because women are religious and/or conservative doesn't mean they don't expect the dynamic to be that men to excessively cater to them (and not only financially) simply because they were born with a vagina... many of those women are WORSE than your average, cash-up-front hookers.... they're often have most of the same problems that non-religous women have, including a certain degree of the same mercenary tendan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:03 AM
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It's not men's fault that women have become less and less worth pursuing as relationship partners... and for a lot of guys, that includes casual sexual relationships. And the only place I saw looks brought up was when you did... you'll have to be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:59 AM
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And most women are hookers... some are just more covert about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:48 AM
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Women pursue too, but the guy has to be worth it, And why do you think men pursue women less and less with every passing year? Cost/risk vs. benefit doesn't match. I don't know why you guys think if women were doing the pursuing, we would go for the average dude. We’d go after extraordinary men. ... We do. And men will still complain because, like I said, women would just pursue men with great personalities, great looks, and/or great bank accounts. The medicore guy isnt gonna get asked out. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:23 PM
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Women won't stop "hoeing out" until you stop giving them attention completely... i.e. you NEITHER smash-and-trash, NOR put a ring on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:05 PM
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With alot of these guys, they dont want mutual beneficial situations. They want people to give them everything they wanted like a spoiled brat. Funny, that's exactly what I'd say about most modern women.... and since women expect men to do the pursuing in relationships, maybe that could be the reason why they only get attention from the shitty men you describe instead of men that actually work at their relationships in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:13 AM
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