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We are going in circles because we both disagree on a fundamental point and we both are too stubborn to let the other person have the last word. I'll say this to anyone else reading indirect doesn't produce more results more than direct with slight humour or modifications etc. This guy has no proof, admits that but then speaks his opinion as if truth. Don't believe it. Do whatever you prefer but in my opinion direct is superior because I get sex faster and rejections faster (rather than slower) …
/r/seduction31/01/19 10:03 PM
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"SO MANY people get this idea that direct is better because any random thing you say that is direct is better than any random thing you say that's not direct, which is definitely true, but well-crafted indirect is better than direct overall. " This is the same argument you presented before again with no proof. How is indirect better than direct overall? Have you conducted an experiment with 20 guys who mastered direct and indirect game, and tested out both their types of game on a large populati…
/r/seduction31/01/19 02:04 AM
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Well what you're doing is indirect man, at least be honest about that. Innuendos are still part of indirect. Inviting a woman for "Netflix" is indirect. And any humour even sexual humour is indirect. Direct is honestly stating your intentions where your words, thoughts, feelings, behaviours, and body language align. I agree direct can trigger the slut warning but there's easy ways around that while still remaining direct. Like amping up some dirty talk till she is wet and lets go of her prudish …
/r/seduction30/01/19 05:17 AM
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They don't want to talk to you because you dont wanna talk to them. Youre already confortable ghosting girls.
/r/seduction26/01/19 11:28 PM
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Why would you ghost an interested girl? Man that tells me you are a pussy that is afrad of sucess
/r/seduction26/01/19 10:29 AM
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Thank you for replying. I want to address your response about the empathy mainly and put aside your points on logic even though I did read it. That I don't know how they feel in those situations where they give me the poker face. This is what I'm talking about! You just admitted yourself you lack empathy, because that's what empathy is. She felt nothing. I felt anxiety because she's impressively beautiful. Pretty sure she was thinking nothing, at best "oh, someone is talking to me, sure". I felt…
/r/seduction26/01/19 01:25 AM
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Eh? Who said anything about lack of honesty? Can you read? I said something about lack of honesty .. you said something about being subtle, and I already connected the two above .. I think you weren't reading and instead caught up in an emotional reaction to put me down and then you projected onto me with "can you read?" looks like you need to ask yourself that. Here is the main quote from myself again for you: Being subtle is manipulative .. plain and simple. You're trying to hide your intentio…
/r/seduction26/01/19 01:08 AM
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See, I have plenty of empathy. Maybe you do. But perhaps it's buried underneath your way of communicating that empathy to the public or buried underneath your desire for pleasure or validation. From the way you wrote about women in your original post, to me it sounds like you have little to no empathy. Maybe you're different in person but the way you communicate online sounds objectifying. I wouldn't personally want to give you seduction advice if I believe you thought of women as objects, I wou…
/r/seduction25/01/19 03:59 AM
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If you think your honest self is classless and boring, it's you who needs to be taught.
/r/seduction24/01/19 08:27 PM
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Cool. Here's what I'm gathering about you: Good intentions: only one thing to do....man up, work on my game and get it done. it's a journey of self improvement as well, and the more i self-imiprove the less the actual pickup stuff intimidates me i know i can do it. it's a mind game, where the moment where you start to think about it or it becomes a big deal in your mind, you fail, because it ruins the genuine energy that i now believe is essential for the interaction i need to start small, and t…
/r/seduction24/01/19 10:54 AM
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Great post. But words mean jack shit. Writing a promise to yourself or us means NOTHING. Write a post after taking heaps of action and then those words will mean something. You need to start making yourself scared on purpose and talking to the girls you are most intimidated by and saying exactly what you're thinking and what you want. BUT start very small. It can be a jump. Start small, but do lots of small actions. E.g Say hi to 50 girls. Saying hi is a small action, but doing it 50 times is a …
/r/seduction24/01/19 10:29 AM
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I think you should stop messaging her, and see her in person and tell her you like her and want to have sex with her in the context of a long term relationship. You will probably get rejected ("I just want to be friends" is a rejection) and that will be for the best as it will shatter your ego and your dreamlike false reality you have created for yourself.If she says yes though, well that will be awesome and a pleasant surprise, and you can finally have sex with the girl you like and develop tha…
/r/seduction24/01/19 10:23 AM
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Everywhere man. Yeah there's less of them than average people, but if you have trouble seeing hot girls, there is only three common reasons why you would have difficulty: You live in a small town .. MOVE to a big city You don't get out much or go to popular areas ... GO out of your house and go to shopping centres, bars and nightclubs. For every 10 girls you see 1 of them has to be really hot. And if you see 50 girls you will see at least 5 really hot girls. You wank off to way too much porn and…
/r/seduction24/01/19 10:11 AM
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I'm not gonna ask "why be subtle?" I'm gonna say DON'T be subtle. If you get pissed off at this I don't give a fuck. And if you choose to ignore this oh well hopefully this will change someone's mind who was going to do the wrong thing. Being subtle is manipulative .. plain and simple. You're trying to hide your intentions or reduce the intensity of your desire because you fear rejection or criticism. It's not manly behaviour, it's cowardly and manipulative behaviour. You're trying to control th…
/r/seduction24/01/19 10:07 AM
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I'm an Alan Roger Currie follower. In my experience he is the best out there in terms of seduction and turning women on, and also doing seduction in an ethical way that is good for women and men, and ALSO handling the modern problems such as #metoo. Highly recommend reading all his books and watching his videos, listening to his podcasts. I made him my online seduction mentor and I recommend you do the same. I've read other pickup books, but most of them are manipulative and aren't even that eff…
/r/seduction24/01/19 09:50 AM
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I'm a guy and I like to seduce women, just letting you know I'm not some feminist or white knight or whatever so please don't assume that just because I am sharing my judgements and experience of you. When I read your post I feel annoyed and disgusted. I imagine you are oblivious to how you appear to others and oblivious to your objectification of women and oblivious to the fact that you probably have deeper problems that you're trying to cover by "getting the hotties." Your whole attitude reads…
/r/seduction24/01/19 09:41 AM
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No. Two things are more important than shallow sex for me. Deeply connected, emotional and loving platonic relationships Changing millions of peoples lives for the better and leaving a legacy
/r/seduction24/01/19 09:12 AM
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Maybe I have to be already getting lots of girls to hang out with guys who are getting girls as well? It certainly helps. But you don't need to be. If you have a really positive attitude and are receptive to learning, and talk to lots of girls even without much results, some cool guys who are good with girls will be happy to hangout with you and be inspired by your enthusiasm. Just remember to give value in some way or another and also actually try to bond with those guys in other ways, actually…
/r/seduction24/01/19 09:05 AM
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If your friends are losers at talking to girls, don't invite them. Just tell them straight up "I don't like your negativity man, it bums me out. If you're willing to be positive and talk to girls like me I may consider inviting you in future, but right now you're a drag." Keep going alone and/or going out with guys who love talking to heaps of girls. If you want to be rich, don't hangout with poor people, hangout with rich people.If you want to be an athlete, don't hangout with obese videogamers…
/r/seduction24/01/19 08:14 AM
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Incoming essay. I got quite passionate when writing because this is a topic that keeps coming up. Feel free not to read any of it, but if you want to learn a different perspective read on. Excuse me doesn't sound like much of an attention grabber unless you're pretty darn good looking. "Excuse me" has worked for me 99% of the time in grabbing a woman's attention. Also works for men and people in general. Most people don't ignore me when I say "excuse me." I'm not pretty darn good looking, and I'…
/r/seduction24/01/19 02:10 AM
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Please don't do this unless she's ALREADY attracted. Yep you're absolutely right, I forgot to mention ... thanks for pointing that out. This is something that you would do very much later in physical escalation after you received signs that she was ok with much more basic things. Yeah after you check her body language and feel she is interested and comfortable with you, whisper in her ear. But physical escalation is last even after whispering in ear. ​
/r/seduction23/01/19 09:35 AM
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You're under the illusion that touching women you just meet is ok to get sex and not realising the harm you are doing to some women. Guys who learn "physical escalation" are literally learning to gamble on sexual assault vs getting consensual sex based on body language responses. It's very risky. There are ways to seduce using just your words and touching later when you've already gotten verbal consent. E.g whispering into a woman's ear until she is so wet, and then getting her to beg you for yo…
/r/seduction22/01/19 09:43 AM
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I just thought you were cute so I figured I’d come talk to you.” Is this not a good opener? I’m being absolutely honest and genuine when I say those lines and they smile and I sometimes get a number I sometimes don’t. You're not being genuine. You're bullshitting the girl, yourself and this thread by pretending you are genuine. In order to be honest and genuine you need to first know what you want and then you need to be able to express what you want clearly. Now do you want to "just talk" with …
/r/seduction21/01/19 10:57 AM
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I was trying to meet other women and not having any luck. I also told her about my dating problems for some reason. Eventually I got tired of trying to meet new girls and just focused on her. There's your problem. You struggled to improve your game and rather than persisting and getting the help you need, you got lazy and retreated and put all your focus on one girl. OBVIOUSLY you're going to get needy by doing that. It's completely your fault. Next time ... keep hustling, and ask for help, hire…
/r/seduction21/01/19 10:49 AM
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Saying "excuse me" is the best way to get a girls attention. Being honest is the best way to increase a girls interest rapidly if she has the slightest natural amount of attraction to you. When I say "be honest" I mean BE honest. Say exactly what you find attractive about her, and exactly what you want from her .. if you want sex say that. Trust me if she has any interest in sex with you, this will intrigue her and she will not be bored.
/r/seduction21/01/19 07:46 AM
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I approached this girl and she told me she didn't want to talk to me and to leave her alone. Ok. When a girl says this LEAVE HER ALONE. I thought I could change this and started to use some negas and jokes, but she kept telling me to go away. Nope. You weren't meant to do this. You fucked up. You were meant to leave. I just laughed and said "Ok, bye have a good night". Finally you did the right thing. I always see coaches on YouTube who keep insisting when the girl doesn't seem happy and they tu…
/r/seduction21/01/19 07:42 AM
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Be honest with me for a second. What are you afraid would happen if you brought her over? What's the negative scenario you don't want to admit may happen?
/r/seduction21/01/19 07:38 AM
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Firstly focus on what you're doing before judging her behaviours. You're putting the ball in her court which isn't always a bad move but with setting up sex for the first time you need to take initiative. Say to her "when are we hooking up this Thursday or Friday?" Give her a choice. Now if she says no to both or gives you a "maybe" next her. She's a time waster attention seeker. If she follows through you'll end up hooking up.
/r/seduction14/01/19 09:14 PM
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The way you talk about women sounds like they are just objects for your dick and nothing more. Do you see them that way?
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:07 PM
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If it's his own experience I feel sad for him ... who wants to be aloof in life? Not me.
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:03 PM
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You talk to heaps of women, even if you're not fucking them you will get more smooth with talking, then one girl may think "if he's so smooth talking like that to me he must be with other girls" subconsciously, and then she fucks you and then you actually do have a girl, then you relax and other girls notice you and sense you have options and they fuck you when you talk to them, and so on in an upward cycle.
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:02 PM
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Stop writing excuses man. I don't wanna hear it. I worked hard to be a 6/10 (used to be a 4/10) and I worked my ass off to learn to be good with girls. I wasn't always good. I don't have good social proof. I don't have good job or money. I have balls and backbone though.
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:57 AM
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Read the 10x rule by Grant Cardone. Read the whole book. You may have looked up articles about it but the book explains it in depth and how to do it. It even mentions "labels" the guy Grant Cardone was labelled with ADHD and told he could not achieve big things when he was younger by a therapist. He also had a drug addition and the therapist said the best he could hope for was to control his addiction. But Grant proved that therapist wrong. Grant not only handled the addiction, he became a massi…
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:51 AM
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I don't agree. Girls don't just reject depressed guys because they are depressed. I have a depressed friend who get laid a few times cold approaching and now has a girlfriend. It's just an excuse to think that you need to solve "some of the chaos". Well if you're contemplating suicide Yeah maybe put off women for a while so you can get some control, but depression itself can literally take years for some it can be most of their life. You don't need to wait that's just fear talking, waiting will …
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:41 AM
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Oh I actually didn't know seeking womens validation is part of my DNA and instincts. This sounds like you know something. I'm not enlightened and happy to learn. Care to share with me what studies or research you have which shows that seeking womens validation is part of mens DNA?
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:38 AM
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Alan Roger Currie
/r/seduction12/01/19 11:34 AM
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Hey man 30 is young in life. You have heaps of time. Get a degree and career for your own self esteem if some part of you wants those things. Look up Grant Cardone 10X Rule to learn to be successful in everything. For casual sex, women don't care about your education or job at all though. I've never been asked what I do or study when having casual sex. Look up: Alan Roger Currie David X For examples of men who have balls and backbone and who get laid consistently.
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:02 AM
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I've never been in your shoes so I can't say man. You know what? Make it happen. Get laid and be the guy to tell other autistic guys they can get laid.
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:01 AM
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Speak for yourself man. I don't do anything in my life for pussy other than talking to girls, cleaning my bed and grooming myself. All other goals in my life are personal growth I love to make myself a better person for the thrill of it and to help others. You might be desperate for validation but don't lump all guys and say "it's subconscious." No. That's not a fact, just your projection. Idk where you got the 80% statistic from sounds like bullshit.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:57 AM
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I'm not good looking. Solid 6/10. How many women do you approach?
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:54 AM
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Ok that tells me something .. You're not approaching enough. And your role models aren't good. Here's what you do. Start approaching 50 girls a week. And pick a new role model in seduction who is honest, ethical and doesn't play so many games. Also learn as much as you can from this guy and stop taking in information from other pua gurus.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:52 AM
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Why not do both at the same time? Why wait? Depression and anxiety can take years to treat, some meds and therapy never work for the individual, but balls are always there. Having balls is simply a choice to go do what scares us that is good for us.
/r/seduction11/01/19 10:49 AM
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Don't follow it, you'll be a Virgin for life. Talk to girls, and hit on them. Do the personal development stuff too but just for you. Girls don't care about that stuff as much as you think.
/r/seduction10/01/19 01:05 PM
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You're right. OP is plain wrong and writing up bullshit. I'm sad so many naive guys think OP is spreading the truth. I've been a loser and got laid, I know plenty of guys who have been losers and got laid, and i know guys who tried so hard with personal development and didn't get laid for ages. Personal development is really unrelated to getting laid, the only similarity is that guys who get into seduction usually like to improve themselves because they have an open mind.
/r/seduction10/01/19 01:04 PM
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Yep right on. Op's post is absolute bullshit. Only virgins or inexperienced guys will agree with him and yet there's so many likes which I'm surprised about. I've fucked girls being a loser so I know how much bullshit op's post is. Getting laid really has nothing to do with being awesome. In fact the more time you put into trying to be awesome the less time you have for hitting on girls.
/r/seduction10/01/19 01:02 PM
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Well you shouldn't be doing just for women's validation anyway. So if they validate that it's ok to be a loser that shouldn't stop you from setting goals anyway because it doesn't matter what the girl thinks.
/r/seduction10/01/19 12:58 PM
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Well what you're saying is with bad diet and porn you experience social anxiety "taking over" I.e you lack balls. See if you had social anxiety but still did everything you wanted in spite of it you would have balls or courage. So if you need to have a good diet and reduce porn to reduce the anxiety and increase your balls more power to you. But diet and lack of porn is not the requirement for getting with women, as other guys myself included don't need to do what you do, but balls and backbone …
/r/seduction10/01/19 09:36 AM
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Don't fix the situation. Allow the chaos to unravel. I mean you deserve it for lying. In future don't lie. Weak betas lie. It's fine to hookup with multiple chicks just be honest about it from the get go.
/r/seduction10/01/19 04:16 AM
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In the city in the morning before work, they will be wearing office clothes .. tonnes of them and a lot of them are hot. Probably after work too. And at lunch break. Just approach any office goer types and some of them will have long term career focus.
/r/seduction10/01/19 04:13 AM
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I disagree for the most part. If you want women you don't even need to get your shit together. You don't need to have good job or friends or be positive or dress well or even be free of addictions. You can be a poor, negative loner who dresses shit and is addicted to alcohol and still get laid heaps. There are men in history who have done this too. All that's required for seduction is: Balls Backbone If you have the balls to walk up to a woman, tell her what you want, dirty talk with her till sh…
/r/seduction10/01/19 04:02 AM
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Pay a friend to bunch you in the balls each time you say "I have no problem getting laid. Why does it matter?" You're going into a bullshit dreamlike state and you need to wake up. Do something extreme. If you don't want to get punched in the balls find another way to wake yourself up.
/r/seduction10/01/19 03:52 AM
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Let me try again. How many women do you approach on average per week? What's the estimate? So your major fear is being criticised or having a harsh reaction. And you've already been through a harsh "fuck off" and lived, so why be scared of it? You know you can handle it. Just remind yourself of that every time you go out. Who is your male seduction role model or mentor? Ant Middleton looks cool but j don't see him with women.
/r/seduction10/01/19 03:40 AM
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Thats bullshit. There is a part of you that always know what to do or say. You're just not relaxed enough for that part to emerge and you resort to overthinking which hides that part.
/r/seduction09/01/19 08:07 PM
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What about people lying ? And how many were involved in the study? Demographics? Easily can be skewed to bullshit.
/r/seduction09/01/19 10:52 AM
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And that's exactly my point of my bullshit comment. No one here can prove how many men women have fucked by a certain age, and no one can disprove it. We don't fucking know and the OP posted a stupid question. I wrote up a bigger number than most just to mess with OP because he seems to believe people in reddit know statistics of how many men women fuck disregarding lying.
/r/seduction09/01/19 10:47 AM
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Well I need some more info. How many girls are you approaching currently every week? What do you fear would happen if you approached the girls you find attractive? Do you have a positive male role model?
/r/seduction09/01/19 10:46 AM
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No. Shy guys nevwr get girls unless their status or looks or money is so fucking high that girls do all the work. 90% of shy guys don't fall into that and for those 90% of shy guys they will remain virgins until they muster up some courage and talk to girls. By definition shy = socially inhibited. You CAN'T be socially inhibited if you wanna fuck women. You must be able to interact with them. So don't try to make shy work. That's like saying "Can I get laid without looking at or talking to girls…
/r/seduction09/01/19 02:45 AM
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Why roast you dude? You're either a loser or a coward or both. I don't respect you enough to give you an all out roast.
/r/seduction09/01/19 02:40 AM
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Yep. I made a post similar a while back. Overthinking is the biggest cockblock there is. Guys who are good with girls = hardly think, do more Guys who suck with girls = think too much, do less
/r/seduction09/01/19 02:39 AM
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A lot of black people wish they were white. Cut out the "grass is greener on the other side" and cut out the excuses .. make due with what you got.
/r/seduction09/01/19 02:37 AM
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Prove it.
/r/seduction09/01/19 01:30 AM
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Get a mentor. Even if it's an online mentor, just get a guy you look up to who has the results you want. Make sure he has lots of content or you can ask him questions one or the other. Do not get mentors! Notice plural. Just one. Several mentors will contradict each other. Limit access to forums too. Take massive action. It's the only way to get success. When you're starting out new or after a break start small but build up the momentum till you're taking massive action. First thing you need to …
/r/seduction08/01/19 10:15 AM
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It's not rocket science. Just massage your own feet for a bit and when it feels good, repeat what you did to your own feet on her feet.
/r/seduction08/01/19 10:11 AM
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By having rules and sticking to them. Only see each other once a week or fortnight not any more often than a week Don't express any feelings other than lust Don't share personal things Don't hold hands Don't stay over Do all those and even if you catch feelings on the outside you should appear cold. Just stick to the rules. And those are just some of mine make your own.
/r/seduction08/01/19 10:08 AM
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This is all a bunch of nerdy horseshit. None of it is real .. admittedly I didn't read the whole thing but I skimmed over it .. and you can tell this guy reads bodybuilding.com and naively believes everything he reads about pickup theory from retards. Nah girls don't care about your looks or money for casual sex. They seriously respond to confidence and balls, it turns them on. Money is paper and looks are for women to impress us not the other way around. Looks are only important to a tiny degre…
/r/seduction07/01/19 12:05 PM
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Stop worrying, just stop. It's only gonna make your hair fall out faster. In fact just shave the whole thing off it bothers you that much. Go Bruce Willis style. Work out. Talk to girls. Stop whining and waiting for motivation. Motivate yourself by taking action. You'll feel good after doing good things for yourself. You'll never feel good beforehand so stop waiting for the perfect mood and act now. Girls like Confidence. Girls like confidence. Girls like confidence. Girls like confidence. Read …
/r/seduction07/01/19 12:01 PM
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If you must kiss her to find out, go for it. Regret is always more painful than rejection in my opinion. Don't come up with excuses, just sit next to her, look at her, stay silent and kiss.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:55 AM
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Definitely don't do the last paragraph. OP you already have a boatload of feelings, if you get high or drunk you'll act way too stupid and needy ... if you get her high or drunk well say hello to a date rape charge.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:53 AM
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Thank you. Women love pricks. But on a serious note, I said everything I had to say op with tough love. Sometimes you need to hear it harshly to get the message to sink in. It's true you're not a man if you can't make a move. If you hesitate or cower then you're just a boy. That doesn't mean you will be a boy forever though.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:32 AM
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I asked you how many you succeeded in that. That is how many approaches till you get laid? I don't care about numbers or dates they're not successes.
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:31 AM
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You know why you feel like crap? Coz you're out of energy! I'm telling you doing nothing does cost you energy, you imagine being lazy conserves energy and that you're resting while doing nothing or playing video games but nah look at the outcome you're never in the mood you feel like shit. Depressed people are always out of energy even though they do nothing. Have you ever noticed productive people have lots of energy? It's coz they are producing. If you force yourself to talk to heaps of women …
/r/seduction07/01/19 11:28 AM
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How many normal cold approaches do you succeed in? Like 1 in 100, 1 in 1000?
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:31 AM
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Stop being a little indesive flaky pussy and say what you want and stand by it. You're trying to please women, let them please you. Tell them you want them to come over for sex with you calmly and don't apologise for it. If you're getting 100 no's in a row, work on your looks, smell and try to turn women on with your voice when you speak with them.
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:29 AM
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The average girl will have sex with about 20-30 men by the time she is 20 years old.
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:25 AM
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No you're wrong. Girls want crazy kinky sex MORE than you do. The innocent looking ones especially. You need to practice making moves and being physical. And also don't hangout with girls as a friends too much hang out alphas and this stuff will sync I quickly.
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:22 AM
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Dude you're way too fucking needy. "Ohh okay!" "That's okay" man everything is okay, if she fucks a guy in front of you, you'll probably find that okay too. You need to develop a thicker skin and stop getting attached to the first girl that shows you a drop of attention. You need to get out of the house and talk to 10x more girls you're talking to now. Seriously man, if you read over your post when you have some game you'll realise how pathetic this reads.
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:18 AM
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Just remember even the best ladies men get rejected. If she rejects your kiss she's not necessarily rejecting you if she's still in front of you. If she likes you even a little the fact you went for a kiss will make her more attracted to you even if she stops the kiss. A girl may reject the kiss for several reasons like she is not comfortable or thinks others are watching or maybe she had bad breath or she's testing to see if you'll respect her, all you gotta do is stop if she stops and smile an…
/r/seduction06/01/19 10:09 AM
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Yes you should have kissed her. There's a good chance she actually wanted to fuck too. You're not a man.
/r/seduction06/01/19 07:38 AM
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Give an example.
/r/seduction06/01/19 07:36 AM
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"Eh, that requires a ton of energy." Yeah .. so what? It takes tremendous energy to come up with excuses and retreat from every attractive girl and rationalise why you're not getting success and why pickup is lame too. That may not be you atm but your mind will start to do that if you continuously retreat and avoid. The point is you waste lots of mental energy either way. Whether you approach or retreat. May as well go up to girls and say hi and use the energy in a productive way. Besides saying…
/r/seduction06/01/19 07:19 AM
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You need to have abundance bro. Just get more women. Be confident. Jk ... Start off small ... say hi to hundreds of girls, then build them up into proper interactions over time. And eventually you will be aeducing. Just focus first on getting out of the house regularly. Second saying hi to many women. Third having real interactions. Don't jump any steps. Also sleep well, exercise, meditate, hang with friends, work hard, outside of women time. You need to take care of yourself like a wounded chil…
/r/seduction06/01/19 01:31 AM
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Why do you ask? Do you want to sleep with her?
/r/seduction06/01/19 01:24 AM
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I have herpes
/r/seduction05/01/19 10:53 PM
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If by failed terribly you mean experienced loads of rejection then I failed terribly too, AND I succeeded. If any guy lets failure or rejection or criticism tarnish their self esteem that's on them.
/r/seduction05/01/19 10:41 PM
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It means you've gone out with shitty or boring women. No not all women are like that. If you're bitter take responsibility, be mad at yourself for letting yourself attract boring women. Screen harder in future, look for places where awesome interesting attractive women will be. If you're not getting what you want it's because of something you did or did not do.
/r/seduction05/01/19 09:35 PM
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Yeah I agree. Most " game" can be learnt subconsciously by just doing and not thinking. Just approach a bunch of women and go for what you want and eventually you get it, and then you get it again, and sooner or later you get good at getting it regularly.
/r/seduction05/01/19 09:32 PM
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You're lying. You say you don't give a shit about sex, but then you say sex is a bonus. If it's a bonus, it means it's enjoyable for you, if it's enjoyable for you then it means you DO give a shit about it, because we give a shit about things we find enjoyable. And cold approaches aren't disrespectful, so if that's your opinion fine, but many girls love being cold approached and it can be considered disrespectful not to cold approach women as well, as women take good care to make themselves look…
/r/seduction02/01/19 04:40 AM
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Well you're not the OP so you can't speak for him. I answered the question, I gave him my opener in those situations. Also if OP is trying to memorise conversation as a script to handle those situations, then he is retarded. Girls are not computers and we can't run programs on them. OP will need to learn how to converse like a human in the moment.
/r/seduction01/01/19 11:29 PM
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I say different things depending on the girl and what I feel like in the moment. I don't plan ahead after hey as that would put me in my head. And "hey" is the opener. I'm using words to initiate a conversation.
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:46 PM
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If you don't care whether you get laid what are you doing in seduction? Dude the way you phrased that sounds so bad. "I even grabbed a girls ass and she didn't do shit because she liked it" that's what you're proud of? It's not an accomplishment to grab a girl's ass. Also you should be careful if these are cold approaches as the girls could just be scared or frozen as well. An indifferent response does not mean she likes it like pua will sometimes teach.
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:40 PM
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No they kill themselves because of their own mental issues. I'm telling you to leave this sub because you clearly don't want pussy, you'd be better off learning about being celibate and being a monk than staying in this sub unless you're willing to change your views.
/r/seduction01/01/19 11:09 AM
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"Hey" for all of them, in the dance floor one I'd also touch her arm to get her attention.
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:20 AM
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Ok .. so quit and leave this sub. Bye bye.
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:19 AM
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When you say results you shouldn't confuse others. Results means getting laid. Anything less than that is not a result. We're all here to get laid after all. Whether we are trying to get laid for short term like a one night stand or fuck buddy or for long term like a girlfriend, we ultimately want sex and sex is the outcome. Numbers are not results Kisses are not results Dates are not results iOIs are definitely not results Sex is results. So please be clear about that because lots of guys start…
/r/seduction01/01/19 10:16 AM
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Yeah and also I gave advice on how not to needy above without any manipulation involved. Coul try that out.
/r/seduction31/12/18 04:17 PM
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Dude awesome investment. These books could seriously transform your dating and seduction life if you understand them and apply them. Start with "MODE ONE: Whisper Into a Woman's Ear What Is REALLY On Your Mind " as that will give you the foundation. But definitely read ooh say it again afterwards as that teaches you more to actually seduce women (outer game part) Another thing, 99% of pua'a don't seem to understand Alan's stuff, because of all the game theory they know .. Alan' s stuff is quite …
/r/seduction31/12/18 09:12 AM
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Yeah, if you're intentionally doing it and hiding the fact that you're doing it to get a certain outcome from the girl, it's manipulative. if you just happen to do it without the secret agenda then it's not manipulative.
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:43 AM
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Well I don't advocate playing manipulative games. So should you do it? I say no. But again it's up to you what you do.
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:07 AM
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Do what you want man.
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:07 AM
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I think it's similar to any other night out. There will be a few lonely girls and many social girls who come with boyfriends or friends etc. yes some girls will have their guards up too. Only way to stand out in my opinion is go in early approach many girls before the night starts picking up. Approach girls in the day even before guys have time to drink and you will catch girls before their guards are up, that way you can rack up solid numbers and ring them up later in the night.
/r/seduction31/12/18 02:52 AM
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Ooohh Say it Again by Alan Roger Currie covers how to get sex fast (or slow) in an honest and authentic way with specific examples and clear outer game advice. It can be done everywhere though seems more effective for daygame in grocery stores but I've used it for bars successfully too. The only thing this book doesn't cover is groups and is not great at that. It works amazing when you get close to the girl's ear and no one can hear what you're saying. But I've found if I can simply say hi to a …
/r/seduction31/12/18 02:46 AM
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Well don't fear being needy. And don't assume you will be rejected at some point either. Just focus on enjoying every moment with her and when you're by yourself. Keep working on your other goals like business , money, friend and family goals and be the best you can be, don't revolve your life around your girlfriend remember you have many parts to your life and you want to succeed in all of them. A lot of guys revolve their whole life around their new girlfriend and forget about their health and…
/r/seduction31/12/18 02:37 AM
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I am being positive albeit I appear negative. What I'm saying is he will be stronger and more aware of himself as a man. Men usually start of naive and get into the first relationship they can when they get feelings,m for a girl, they usually get needy and fuck it up, that part Is negative but they come back more aware and learn how to et chased by girls more then being the needy one. So it's like a cycle of improvement. Guy has no options and meets girl > dates girl > gets needy > gets dumped/c…
/r/seduction31/12/18 12:03 AM
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Dude nice, you named two of my favourite books. I don't like much of Mark Manson's stuff, I think a lot of what he says is unnecessary and I think he writes in a pretentious manner. But Grant Cardone and Robert Glover I love.
/r/seduction30/12/18 08:24 AM
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So you want to feel more confident, and successful? Perhaps have really high levels of self esteem? And be able to get results in every area of your life including pickup? The 10X Rule by Grant Cardone. ​ Read it, digest it, do the exercises.
/r/seduction30/12/18 08:21 AM
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The journey isn't over, it's only begun. You're probably in the oneitis stage, you'll probably get heartbroken and be back here in a few years with a sharper outlook. Good luck.
/r/seduction30/12/18 08:12 AM
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Thanks I will! Have a happy New Years and enjoy life!
/r/seduction29/12/18 04:13 AM
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Oh well welcome to reddit :) yeah that happens .. not as bad as YouTube but still happens. But again what part of my comment was rude? That I had a difference of opinion? Seems like any honesty is rude to you.
/r/seduction29/12/18 12:01 AM
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That doesn't mean I see it as two different ways. He could be red pilled black pilled purple pilled there are many possibilities not just two. I stereotyped him yes but I didn't think in a dichotomy. So take that you stupid fuck.
/r/seduction28/12/18 10:18 PM
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Well what if there were several girls in the world who were exactly what you were looking for? Have you ever wanted to challenge that belief? imo it's absolutely bullshit and yeah romantic movies feed into that. There can't just be one girl on earth who is "perfect" to you why just one? There should be several. I mean the earth has billions of people and what if this supposed "one" died, I mean death happens all the time, then your journey to find "her" would be futile. And you may even meet a p…
/r/seduction28/12/18 10:15 PM
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When you say "as a girl" you should actually say "as a manipulative girl who expects guys to flatter and bullshit me" to prevent confusion. Yes there are many girls like you who hate straightforward honesty about sex. You would rather the free drinks and the pleasant convo and you say you don't want guys to treat you like a slut as your defence as to why you don't like that kind of honesty. "Some things should be kept to yourself" etc. I know plenty of girls like you. But you like dick too and t…
/r/seduction28/12/18 09:53 PM
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Not me.
/r/seduction28/12/18 03:51 PM
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No it's not. Look up the word man.
/r/seduction28/12/18 03:49 PM
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Trick question I don't. I can see how it looks that way. I know blue pulled guys can be successful but it's the exception to the rule. I said it's "weird" as in not normal, and that's a fair statement. Blue pulled guys usually suck with women or get into average relationships or marriages.
/r/seduction28/12/18 03:42 PM
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Ah ok, thanks for explaining. And how many dates could you get in a week if you tried? Like your highest potential amount of dates in a week?
/r/seduction28/12/18 03:04 PM
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Damn man. Seems like if you want a relationship house parties are where it's at :P ​ It's weird you have great success with women, but still have a blue pill mindset. Why do you still believe in "the one"? Do you think the media conditioning can run that deep? Or do you believe in it for some other reason?
/r/seduction28/12/18 02:00 PM
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I'm going to ignore your request for 1 tip and give you 2 tips. Warmup massively - Say hi and walk off for about 20 women at least. You need to get used to going up to attractive women and saying anything but with no pressure to seduce or date or hold a convo with them. And you should do this as fast as possible preferably using a 5-10 min timer to pressure yourself to move fast. It's easy for a guy to think of just saying "hi" to a girl and walking off . It can be crippling for a guy to think o…
/r/seduction28/12/18 01:56 PM
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The paradox of being liked is that the more you try to get people to like you (including women) the more they lose respect for you and eventually dislike you. Just think of any brown noser in a corporation who never gets promoted, or a typical nice guy who never gets laid. So it's never a good idea to go in with the mindset of "how do I charm women", "how do I attract women", "how do I get women to like me", "how do I get people to like me", "how do I impress women", "how can I make myself look …
/r/seduction28/12/18 01:41 PM
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You're probably right. I don't think anyone believe what I say on reddit about my successes coz most guys just don't know how to make honesty work, if they saw me in real life they'd understand.. I don't just yell at women "wanna fuck" I still have a smoothness quality with my honesty which turns women on, but it only gets about 10% because I'm going for casual sex and a lot of women like to date first etc. I still stand by my values though and I don't switch to dates even if I would get more se…
/r/seduction28/12/18 09:37 AM
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Women are turned on by balls and backbone. You don't have either that's why you have no success with women. Looks can help no denying that .. but a good looking shy guy will so much worse than a ballsy average looking guy. You won't believe me and I understand that. It just seems everything you've seen has made sense in your perception that women like the best of the best or good looking or high status etc. But it's not true. Women are really fucking weird. They get turned on by confidence and b…
/r/seduction28/12/18 01:52 AM
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Just move man. If you don't have the money, get a job and save. You said it yourself you can't even get away with complimenting a girl, fuck just move to a western country. Save seduction for when you get over there.
/r/seduction28/12/18 01:42 AM
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That's cool man. But as I said I can handle rejection easily. And my ethics are more important than results. I don't like to lie to women and pretend I want to date when really I want to fuck. 90% is extremely good man though, I am doubting your credibility tbh. I mean getting a date is easy, I could line up 3 dates this week without a problem maybe even 10 if I tried (but again I never ask women on dates anymore)!and if you say you sleep with 90% of those dates does that mean you're fucking 9 d…
/r/seduction28/12/18 01:11 AM
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It works about 10% of the time when I'm already talking to a woman. That's good enough for me coz I can handle rejection easy.
/r/seduction27/12/18 09:51 PM
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I don't know. My guess is she is insecure. I've fucked insecure girls before though, usually I was very honest and said things like "well I think you're beautiful. We don't have to hook up but I'd like to." Etc.
/r/seduction27/12/18 03:41 PM
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yeah. I've had some seductions which flowed so smoothly it felt like we were both enthusiastic and down for it and it made me feel good, I wasn't really working just enjoying myself.
/r/seduction27/12/18 03:15 PM
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I am not debating ethics or philosophy with you. But frankly I don't take women on dates for that reason. I tell them I want to have sex and invite them to my place. Clears up any misinterpretation. They can view dates as a networking opportunity if they like but they know if they're coming to mine what I want.
/r/seduction27/12/18 03:11 PM
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You did everything just fine except for ... When you said "I have a secret" And she got eager, you should have stayed silent for a bit to build tension, then move your face close to hers and then kiss. She may have rejected it but it would have shown you have balls and made her more attracted to you , rather than saying "I want to kiss you goodnight" Other than that good hustle
/r/seduction27/12/18 08:16 AM
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Read Ooh Say it Again by Alan Roger Currie to learn about how to smooth talk and how to turn women on with your words. The line between smooth talk and inappropriate talk doesn't exist. They are the same thing. Talking about sex is smooth and it's also inappropriate. The thing you need to keep in check Is who are you talking dirty to. If you're with a woman who allows you in her space and is smiling in an mischievous way while you whisper dirty things in her ear, she will enjoy it even if she pl…
/r/seduction27/12/18 08:08 AM
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Cut it out dude. I don't wanna hear it again.
/r/seduction27/12/18 08:00 AM
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Gf = long term banging with one girl only Single = short and long term banging whoever and however many girls you want If my goals were primarily banging I would stay single. But whatever your goal is, write it down for yourself and then you need to approach women. To approach women start by going to areas where there are many women. E.g bars, clubs, shopping centres, college campuses etc. Then start saying hi to different girls and not putting any pressure on yourself to do more than that. Then…
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:56 AM
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Hey I can absolutely relate to that inner anger you describe. Be grateful man that anger is a fucking gift. I can't begin to imagine what my life would be without it. Most good changes in my life started with some humiliation or pain and then that anger which charged me in a positive direction. I know many guys who don't have that spark and stay apathetic and passive all their life. You got it! Now just read the book and do the exercises and you will transform.
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:49 AM
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Awkwardness is within you though as an experience and it's your responsibility. Awkwardness really is anxiety but people feel better saying "this is awkward" rather than " i feel anxious/nervous." If you get in touch with the anxiety by watching the breathing rhythm and other bodily sensations you can stay detached from it and see the anxiety as simply a process that is happeneing and usually when you are detached the process of anxiety fades and you are able to be calm and present. And then the…
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:21 AM
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Well this reads different to your original post. I got the impression you wanted a girlfriend now it seems you just want some banging. Which one do you want in the next month? To have one girlfriend? Or several one night stands/ a few casual fuckbuddies?
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:14 AM
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Allow yourself not to trust man. Be a mistrustful person for a while. It's ok. Just date and fuck different women for a bit and learn to enjoy being single and learn over time to trust yourself, then it'll be easier to trust others again.
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:11 AM
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Thanks for the lovely story, brought a smile to my face. I cringed a bit when reading about how you innocently flirted with the mom in front of her daughter and talked as if she is a puppy etc. this came off as manipulative and deceitful to me. I liked how the passion and chemistry was there between you and the mom and you had a good sexual experience.
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:08 AM
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2 books. No more me nice guy. This will change your fucking life. Turns people pleasing nice guys into men who have boundaries and command respect. Think Big make it happen in business and life by Donald trump. People hate the guy, but they also respect and fear him. He is ballsy, bold and successful. You can learn a lot from him even if you don't agree with his political views.
/r/seduction27/12/18 07:00 AM
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Why the fuck do you do that? That's like choosing to pin yourself as a loser. You can choose to say "I'm a guy in a temporary shitty situation" but instead you create a fucked up label to put yourself down. Man you bully yourself, cut that out.
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:53 AM
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Tell them when you meet them "I want to (insert your desire here) with you, when are you free to do this? This weekend or next weekend?" they either say yes or no .. no friendzone gets created.
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:44 AM
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I wanna say give up just because I get pissed off hearing that victim attitude. But I won't. Listen man, stop sooking around and take responsibility for your situation. You were the one that didn't capitalise on the 15 girls who approached you, you were the one that didn't look into your fears and challenge them, you were the one that took up a minimum wage job and assumed a mental belief of this to mean you have low value, you were the one that allowed your sister to bully you without fighting …
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:34 AM
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What do you want out of this? People to validate your experiences and make you feel less alone or a solution to a problem you have?
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:33 AM
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You're negative, that means you are wrong and should be downvoted.
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:31 AM
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It is negative and it's largely true from my experiences too. Sometimes people are negative to protect themselves and others from future disappointments. I have gotten dates easily with some fit and girls who were into taking care of themselves, but they saw it as a networking experience or a friend date or a new experience etc. asking women for coffee can easily be misinterpreted not as a romantic date but as something else, so it's good to be clear.
/r/seduction27/12/18 06:01 AM
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Ah ok so we agree on something then. Women love sex. And yeah I didn't comprehend what you were saying I don't think anyone did because you never explained deeply what you meant till now, you wrote a one or two sentence comment which left a lot to the imagination. In future be more clear about your opinion. Now define what you mean by emotional connection.
/r/seduction27/12/18 05:47 AM
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Ignoring IS doing something. And I've found ignoring women doesn't work it just makes you a dickhead, and not the sexy kind of dickhead, the "that guy's a dick I'm gonna leave him alone" kind of dickhead.
/r/seduction27/12/18 01:08 AM
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Yeah I am, coz you started it. If we hear one generalisation we should get to hear the opposite side too. So do you not have any sex with women? I mean it would be hard to when you believe women don't enjoy sex and considering enthusiasm is part of consent the only way you'd have sex is if you went around raping people or trading sex for something else like money or dates.
/r/seduction27/12/18 01:04 AM
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Yeah quite a few do. Look have you done a study in an all women? And besides women can lie anyway.. so there's no point in saying "but most" you don't fucking know. All I know is I have met many women who do fuck guys they like on the first time they meet them and it's happened to me too. Girls enjoy sex. I don't date them or pay for them, girls like dick they just know a lot of chumps will buy them stuff if they pretend not to like it so much.
/r/seduction26/12/18 11:51 PM
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Read mode one. There's 4 types of women. Women who will fuck you or date and will be open about it when you hit on them (assuming you've let them know what you want) Women who won't fuck or date you and will be abrupt about their rejection when you hit on them Women who pretend they don't want to fuck you even though they may want to or may be indifferent about it Women who pretend they do want to fuck you even though they won't when it comes down to it The last two types are manipulative types.…
/r/seduction26/12/18 11:46 PM
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Sounds like you're projecting there. I've never spent a cent on bootcamps, and I dont read Pua content, only the personal development stuff and to help out others, most of my learning has been in the real world .. and yeah women laugh at how I don't play their games while I'm sleeping with them or getting my dick sucked by them ...... yeah right Did you get hurt by comment man? I only speak what I'm thinking and I think you really don't know much about women. You've only learnt to play games wit…
/r/seduction26/12/18 11:26 PM
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Nah it's not. You're just a pussy who listens to feminists, media, weak pua's and your mommy. Being honest turns women on and it's not creepy unless you are a creep.
/r/seduction26/12/18 02:27 PM
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Not that interesting. I like shallow hot sex more than connecting with random women for intimacy.
/r/seduction26/12/18 02:25 PM
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I have a question .. do you need to carry a mop to clean up all the vomit of people who spew hearing the fucked up shit you say?
/r/seduction26/12/18 12:40 PM
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You're wrong. Don't spread bullshit around, you're harming naive guys mindsets here. Women LOVE to fuck even more than men do. They just know how to PRETEND that they don't. Don't fall for the act.
/r/seduction26/12/18 12:38 PM
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She either wants to fuck or doesn't. I liked how you were honest. But why the fuck did you not persist for answer? Why did you fold your hand when she changed subjects? Damn. Next time seduce her in person not over text, and tell her "when are we fucking? tonight or tomorrow?" Get an answer from her. Girls like to be ambiguous because it gives them power and control to get other benefits like attention and gifts, also prevents them from looking like an easy slut. It's your job as the man to pers…
/r/seduction26/12/18 12:36 PM
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Nah you're wrong, and your game is shit. Playing hard to get doesn't work when you've already been direct, women aren't retarded, plus why play games when all you wanna do is fuck? Why waste time "creating resistance" ? Damn it's like you think women don't like sex or something. You clearly don't know anything about women.
/r/seduction26/12/18 12:28 PM
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Yeah or leave without saying anything. If it's disrespectful to you, don't put up with it.
/r/seduction25/12/18 05:08 AM
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Wtf is wrong with you guys. I can't tell if you're joking or not, but if you're joking maybe put a :p coz there are some messed up incels around.
/r/seduction25/12/18 05:07 AM
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It's possible, but much more difficult for some peopl. I know a depressed guy who does well with women he has a girlfriend now, but he is a fairly functional guy in spite of his clinical depression. Another friend of mine is depressed and he absolutely sucks and is full of negativity and excuses, he struggles to even approach even when I encourage and push him. If you relate more to the second guy I recommend work on treating your depression first, become functional at least and then work on wom…
/r/seduction25/12/18 01:25 AM
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yes. I'm average height but I know short guys who do well. And I do well even though I'm not tall. Stop making fucking excuses. If you're not doing well it's not your height man so don't mention it. Are you approaching many women? Are you turning on and arousing each woman? Are you closing each woman? Answer those questions and see where your weak area is.
/r/seduction25/12/18 01:17 AM
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Walk up to them using your legs to approach. Use words to introduce yourself and innocent touch to get their attention. Don't overthink it, just take lots of action and you will get better through experience. Most guys who complain clubs are hard never approach they spend their time drinking or at the bar or looking at women from far away. Approach in large numbers and you will get smoother.
/r/seduction24/12/18 08:27 AM
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If you've been in 80 dates and not a single second date out of those, you are lacking in awareness. Helping you online will be hard as I can't see what you're doing or how you are on dates or how you behave after dates. You need to journal, ask for feedback from your friends and guys who are good with women, get a dating coach perhaps. You need to become aware. Playing the numbers game only works when you have some level of awareness and can take and apply feedback.
/r/seduction24/12/18 08:24 AM
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You did good if you took the right actions. E.g approaching, attempting the kiss, asking for the number. The outcome is largely out of your control so that's not so important. Now did you take those right actions or did the girl? If you did, then you did good.
/r/seduction23/12/18 09:43 AM
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Hey. Excuse me ... hey what's your name? Hey I think you're cute. What are you up to tonight? Wanna dance? Note: all of these I say in bar environments with eye contact and usually a light touch on the arm or the lower back.
/r/seduction23/12/18 09:37 AM
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Honestly it shouldn't be hard. Tell him to move or travel to Australia, there is an abundance of dominating and challenging women here. And if he is his submissive self a dominant woman will snatch him up and control him. Happens quite a lot with marriages over here.
/r/seduction23/12/18 01:56 AM
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You're too desperate. She has already lost any interest in you. Any further actions you do will only repulse her. You must delete all of her contact info and talk to new women while also doing some therapy to find out why one girl will fill up that hole inside you. Seriously wake the fuck up man.
/r/seduction23/12/18 01:52 AM
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In real life interactions (not online) If you're an obese ugly motherfucker yes looks is the most important thing to work on. But if you're an average looking guy looks is not the most important thing, confidence is. I don't know where you got the "women expect us to look like models" that's absolute bullshit. Some shallow women on tinder probably do, but if you're approaching in real life you'll know many many women don't care if you look like shit. I've hooked up with women wearing clothes tha…
/r/seduction23/12/18 01:42 AM
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This community is full of overanalysing nerds who don't get laid. They can't see good advice unless it's explained thoroughly and already in line with their views. I could write up a long bullshit positive post which most would like and get upvoted but I prefer to keep it real and hope it helps somebody.
/r/seduction21/12/18 08:27 PM
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Forget everything you know and everything you've heard. Stop thinking literally turn your thoughts off. Be dumb and empty. Go and approach her like a dumb caveman with your natural instinct to fuck the next time you see her.
/r/seduction21/12/18 02:55 PM
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Thrill of the chase, variety and newness, stories to tell with the guys, not wanting to commit because a relationship may take too much time. Those are some of the reasons I like seducing multiple women.
/r/seduction20/12/18 05:44 AM
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Go approach some women and find out.
/r/seduction19/12/18 04:07 AM
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Different each time. There's no "usual" conversation. Why do you ask?
/r/seduction19/12/18 03:53 AM
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Canned opener
/r/seduction19/12/18 01:29 AM
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"I think" or "You are" and then a thought I have about her usually.
/r/seduction19/12/18 01:26 AM
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Thanks for this post. I do something similar already, this is invaluable.
/r/seduction17/12/18 09:10 AM
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Of course you'd be surprised, you're new to seduction. Stay in the game some years and take some bigger risks and you'll learn you can get laid being explicit but it needs to be done with awareness of the woman, and a smooth and seductive quality, not just yelling it out or saying it in a nervous manner. Most guys don't have balls to say things like that and when they do they are often drunk or nervous as. If you say it when sober and with confidence you can turn women on quickly. So that line I…
/r/seduction17/12/18 04:12 AM
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In my opinion men nor women can create sexual tension. But we can do things to stop blocking the natural sexual tension that already exists. Sexual tension is a result of there being two people in the presence of each other and both are feeling arousal whether mild or intense and neither one of them are acting on that arousal ... yet. I believe sexual arousal just happens when a man and woman or man and man or woman and woman or some other pair have natural attraction to the other, are present t…
/r/seduction17/12/18 04:01 AM
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"I want to slide my dick in your pussy." That'd probably be a forward line and explicit. Yeah well it makes no difference where you are either way.
/r/seduction17/12/18 03:39 AM
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I use "excuse me" for street game And "hey" for bars It's a tough choice to do one. I'd probably say "hey" would be the 1 opener I would use for rest of my life.
/r/seduction17/12/18 02:33 AM
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I think it's not forward enough. Honestly that's a weak line and if you think that takes confidence you probably have low confidence to begin with. Go ahead and say that I'm not saying it won't work, but it takes no balls in my opinion and I don't think it makes the convo "spicy."
/r/seduction17/12/18 02:30 AM
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i just don't believe you hate everything about it. I'm guessing you had some negative experiences but rather than focus on what could go right you go back to those experiences in the past. Instead of working to change and enjoy social interactions, you accept a fixed mindset of "this how my mind works" "this is me" etc. anyway if you choose to stay fixed then you also need to accept the stuckness of faking friendships for girls too, that's a consequence of not learning to enjoy friends. Alternat…
/r/seduction17/12/18 01:22 AM
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Nothing. That sentence you wrote is spot on. Mode one is more deeper than a paragraph and nothing I or you said covers the depth of what mode one is about. When I read the sentence I was imagining others would see it as you are taking credibility from what I wrote about mode one with that sentence and this triggered a defensive reaction in me where I then asked you not to include me with you and I also wrote some more defensive sentences.
/r/seduction16/12/18 08:34 AM
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So then I encourage you to start looking for male friends, and especially male friends who are good with women and who will support you to talk to them. Make that your first goal. You could even type in google "(your suburb) wingmen pickup" and start contacting them. I suggest going out with as many guys as possible and don't allow your judgements of them to stop you from hanging with them. I am betting your mind will come up with excuses as to why they are jerks etc. because they will have diff…
/r/seduction16/12/18 08:19 AM
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Are you afraid to give it another shot? Perhaps the next time you will enjoy it?
/r/seduction16/12/18 08:16 AM
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You belief system is fucked up and it will stop you from succeeding with women. There's too much stuff for me to write to help you. Honestly what you need is a guy who is decent with girls to be friends with in real life. And you need to talk to him about girls a lot till his Mindsets run off on you.
/r/seduction16/12/18 06:22 AM
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Let's break it down. What do you hate about making friends?
/r/seduction16/12/18 06:19 AM
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I ask that you don't include me with you. I get mode one deeply, I've made it work multiple times. You probably haven't made it work for you, and you don't understand it. Mode one will only land you in jail if you are in a country like India or you're dealing with a woman who is fucked up. Otherwise it's SAFER than mode two. The guys who get caught up in sexual harassment charges are usually physically escalating when the woman didn't give consent. That's the problem with most pickup game, it te…
/r/seduction16/12/18 05:53 AM
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Interesting. I don't keep count tbh. Ive gotten loads of numbers and I don't see their importance a lot of the time. I never even go for dates (although I have been on a few by accident) and I tend to fuck women who are down the first or second time I meet them, and I dont count sex anyway sex coz I don't want to end up sexually objectifying women.
/r/seduction16/12/18 04:48 AM
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I'm no good at online game so can't help you there. I would just keep an eye on when she's outside.
/r/seduction15/12/18 12:09 PM
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My advice. Say hi to her when you see her next and get in her space. She will either move/lean back or stay still/get closer to you. If she does the latter she is into you, and if that happens go direct and tell her you want to hook up. It won't be awkward because she would be into you and you already tested her interest. If she did the former though and moved back, then just play it off and say something about the weather.
/r/seduction15/12/18 11:34 AM
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I use it. Most guys don't. You're right to be surprised it takes big balls to use it.
/r/seduction15/12/18 10:35 AM
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Start approaching women over and over, make it a habit. Then when women approach you , you'll be able to handle it easier.
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:46 AM
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Sounds like your problem is lack of self belief and doubt. Solution = shut your mind up and touch more girls. Not in anywhere inappropriate mind you, but touch.
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:44 AM
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Mode one works as often as mode two (which is what 99% of pickup guys who get laid do) does, the difference is in mode two your rejections will be slow and pleasant, in mode one your rejections will be fast and abrupt and occasionally you will piss women off, however you save way more time and don't get manipulated and you develop way more confidence . Put simply you can only ever be in one of those modes when interacting with a woman. And this guy doesn't understand mode one fully, most people …
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:36 AM
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How many women have you slept with on a regular basis after cold approaching?
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:20 AM
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I like how you offer an alternative paragdim shift and I think the way you wrote the post is quite intriguing. I think cold approaching for me Is about being the chooser. And ultimately by doing cold approach I am taking absolute responsibility for my love life. I don't have to wait for a woman's signals to encourage me to say hi, I can just say hi, unless of course she is obviously taken. The other part of my attitude is each woman I approach whom I like the looks of increases my confidence and…
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:17 AM
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Perhaps that's how you associate emotional communication as "gay" and so you revert to cut and dry communication to protect yourself from being judged as gay or from judging yourself as gay? May be time to let go of that old belief and see emotional communication as an effective way of relating to others and especially women.
/r/seduction15/12/18 08:05 AM
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If you wanna have casual sex or a one night stand with this women, never share your fears and problems unless you're in bed with her and you can't get hard, then maybe it's an ok time to explain your performance anxiety or whatever. Casual sex is really just about lust, no other emotion should be shown, and no problems should be shared really. It's a shallow experience and should be kept as such. If you share your emotions and fears and problems with a one night stand it will ruin the mood and s…
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:54 AM
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I think emotional communication is about being vulnerable. Which means not guarding your emotions. If I was to expand a bit more, being aware of your bodily sensations and your general mood and expressing that honestly while maintaining eye contact with the woman, keeping your hands by your side rather than in front of your chest, smiling when happy, not smiling when you are not happy, allowing tears to come up or anger or joy or fear or arousal and being authentic in your body language and tona…
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:36 AM
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Dude I think you don't even know what it means that's why you're giving the OP such a hard time. If you don't know, that's cool, just don't be a dick about it.
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:33 AM
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Getting over approach anxiety is not something you can do online or through a book. Now here's my advice. Forget everything you read and know about seduction and pickup. Forget it all as best as you can. Most of it will remain in your subconscious somewhere anyway but at least let it go from your conscious mind and assume the mindset of being brand new to understanding women. YOU KNOW NOTHING. Ok? Now ... I want you to go to a place which is populated with women e.g the city streets, shopping ce…
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:24 AM
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Most women are right.
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:08 AM
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You don't need social proof, it's a lie. If you're in a social group, yes it makes a massive difference, women don't want to fuck the guy who is at the bottom of the social hierarchy and is picked on by the other guys, in these situations you obviously want to show you're well connected and cool. But if you're out on your own, being anonymous you can get laid too if you have good game or are simply able to turn women on, women have nothing to judge you on but your own confidence, and if you are …
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:05 AM
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you very easily run the risk of any of these having the opposite effect. For example, "pulling the trigger", some women don't like for guys to come on strong and make a big move. And? That's not a risk. She doesn't like it, she gives you maybe a look of disgust and leaves you or tells you she doesn't feel comfortable doing whatever it is you initiated, and you ultimately lose nothing. I mean as long as your move is nothing stupid or illegal, but a simple move such as asking a woman on a date, or…
/r/seduction15/12/18 07:02 AM
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And ultimately attaining abundance boils down to doing the right things over and over, hence this post and all the other info in seduction. If guys were abundant they probably wouldn't be on here in the first place, they'd be enjoying all the sex. ​
/r/seduction15/12/18 06:54 AM
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That sounds great in theory man. But I would disagree about "forgetting about rules" hell some rules have really helped me seduce women in an ethical way. I create my rules based on my own experiences though and by the sounds of it you're talking about getting rules from others in which case I agree. There is lots of contradicting info. But my own rules are easy for me to follow and don't contradict each other because I created them from my own experiences such as "Stay out a minimum 2 hours.", …
/r/seduction14/12/18 08:56 AM
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These are mostly accurate, good post.
/r/seduction20/11/18 07:01 AM
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Just came back on reddit. isn't it just weird to approach her out of the blue? I feel like that's too desperate if that makes sense. I'm still not really sure how any of this is supposed to work at all. Again, yes it's weird because most guys don't do it especially when sober. But it's a good weird, and you should do it anyway. It's not desperate to approach immediately, it's confident. Trust me, women find guys who don't approach immediately but stand there for a few minutes watching them "cree…
/r/seduction18/11/18 02:31 AM
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Nah I disagree. Self love and belief in myself has nothing to do with getting laid or the sticking points associated with that. Overthinking is what hinders every behavior a man needs to do in order to get laid. I know men that love themselves and they usually are in a relationship or happy single but not getting laid. Self love is just about acceptance, but action is what produces results, and overthinking hinders action.
/r/seduction13/11/18 07:58 AM
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This description is fantastic, and a lot of it, I'm neglecting. My eye contact isn't that direct, I hesitate, and I'm always at an angle - which is something I hadn't really realised til you pointed it out. The thing is though, when I'm in the club, how am I supposed to scope the place out? Like I would just dance, til I saw someone that caught my eye. And like, I can't just walk around and approach the first person I think is pretty, that would be odd, right? And when I'm walking around, girls …
/r/seduction09/11/18 01:35 AM
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"I don't think I'm seeking approval with weak confidence, but what do I know? " Confidence is made up of how little your hesitate, how direct your eye contact is, are you facing her or on an angle, low or high voice, asking or stating. On a scale of 1 - 10, how confident do you think you are when you get the attention of a woman in a nightclub? " I didn't want to come on too strong or get rejected too harshly to be honest. I was just trying to have a good time while meeting someone on the side. …
/r/seduction09/11/18 12:20 AM
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He's wrong. You don't need to be a model in looks to stand a chance with girls. If you're average looking and confident, you'll probably get laid with 1 out of 200 approaches. But all of those approaches you have to attempt to close. Most guys simply don't approach enough, aren't confident enough, or don't close enough. That's why their results are shit and they think they need to be a model. Hey being a model increases those odds, but you still got a shot at getting laid without being a model. …
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:30 AM
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Sounds like you're getting overwhelmed with comparing yourself to others and losing hope. Sometimes it's best to forget how successful other people are doing, as that will often put you into a downwards spiral. Instead you need to refocus and get some clarity. ​ Answer these questions honestly for yourself: What is it you want with women? What are you currently believing which is stopping you from getting what you want with women? What do you need to believe to help you get what you want with wo…
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:19 AM
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Man you asked two different questions in the same post. I don't like that. Anyway ... For you: Answer the question: What do I want with this woman? Stop worrying about signals, about her hugging or poking you Express what you want to her in a confident way, without seeking approval e.g I want you to grab a drink with me. OR I want to hookup with you. etc. Watch her response. If she's unclear and you don't know if it's a yes or no. Be more specific. E.g, "When are you free to do this, this Wednes…
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:06 AM
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So have you every told a girl something close to this: "I want us to act like bf/gf when we’re together, but not when we’re apart" If you haven't and you merely said "I don't want a relationship, I just want to hookup" then you did mislead them. Because what you want isn't JUST casual, you also want elements of a relationship when you're together. You need to be clear on that so the girls don't get confused and start to hope it will change into a relationship. The other thing is have rules. Rule…
/r/seduction08/11/18 04:58 AM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy and definitely do all the exercises. They will challenge you, but they will change you for the better. It talks a lot about neediness/clinginess/guys that grew up without dads or with dysfunctional dads and were raised by their mums or other women. That book won't turn you into a jerk, don't worry, it's really about getting rid of wimpy, clingy, dependent behaviours and becoming independent, confident, non-needy, assertive and attractive. I did it a lot of the exercises …
/r/seduction08/11/18 04:44 AM
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It's a good thing. Just apply the 'brother' test. ​ Would a woman say to her brother or friend that she sees as a brother "You're very hard to read."? ​ Probably not. My guess is it means she thinks you are unpredictable and she can't predict what you're thinking about or what you're going to do next. This is good. You always want to keep women on their toes. It's attractive.
/r/seduction08/11/18 04:38 AM
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I was initially shook by your message, and " She is a blank slate, there really nothing to think about until you have info on her. " that quote spoke to me. But then I realised it's wrong. There is info I know before I even approach. She's not a blank slate. When a woman where's headphones, walks fast, looks down, it doesn't take a genius to know she doesn't want to be approached by a man at that particular moment. A woman has a wedding ring on her finger, that's info that she is married. So in …
/r/seduction07/11/18 12:51 PM
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Harsh but real words. Appreciated. I definitely don't agree with the first half of what you said about turning every woman into an object as much as that would probably work in getting what I want, I don't want to turn myself into a sociopath just to achieve my own goals. That last part about me needing to turn off my head is somewhat true. I don't want to turn it off altogether coz otherwise I'd probably be approaching women in completely inappropriate situations and getting in trouble and agai…
/r/seduction07/11/18 12:27 PM
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I understand what you're saying. And I agree if someone is standing and leering that can feel scary. I feel sad though thinking that most women's perceptions have it backwards. The guys who have less empathy approach instantly and they appear less creepy to women. A sociopath can easily approach a woman without any fear or hesitinacy because he doesn't give a rats ass what she thinks, but she'll probably think he's confident and feel safer. Whilst the guys with more empathy and thoughtfulness cr…
/r/seduction07/11/18 12:14 PM
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I agree with what he said and I can understand what he's getting it. Basically the "hot gold mold" means let's say your dick gets hard when you see slightly chubby women, but when you see skinny models you don't really get that aroused. You "know" the skinny models are hot by most guys standards and that they are on tv so they must be hot, but you know that you're not really attracted them, they don't make you get hard or sweaty. So the model may be dressed well, fit, great makeup, whatever, but…
/r/seduction07/11/18 10:38 AM
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Thanks. These are things I intuitevely know and agree with from my own experience but it's still refreshing and good to read from another guy's perspective.
/r/seduction07/11/18 10:25 AM
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Good point. I can't mind read, that stuck out for me .. thank you.
/r/seduction07/11/18 09:46 AM
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Thanks for replying. So what you're saying is setting a firm goal helps motivate you to approach? Well I have set firm goals many times and even that doesn't work, sometimes I just delay doing it and then fail my goal every week. And for worrying, well I would like to accept that women don't remember my approach a week later. But I have heard of women getting traumatized by men approaching them in creepy ways or stalking them and they often post videos with the #metoo movement. Now obviously I d…
/r/seduction07/11/18 08:58 AM
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Ok one thing to know. Nightclubs are hard mode. Nightclub girls will test your balls because their guards are up and their self image is up and they assume men are going to hit on them when they say hi. And you know what, their assumption is right 99% of the time. If you have no balls or you're seeking approval with weak confidence, you will get harsh rejections, criticisms and you will end up frustrated and resentful towards women and men who are good with women. Now I don't want you to become …
/r/seduction07/11/18 06:08 AM
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Either way man I see two issues much larger than your "kino" or what you did or didn't do with that girl. You care too much what others think (especially women by the looks of it) You're not sure of yourself These issues will not only turn off women, it will fuck your life up and constantly put you in a state of uncertainty and insecurity. I know from expeirence. My advice: Put yourself first in all situations (Helps avoid overthinking about what others think and helps you focus on getting what …
/r/seduction07/11/18 05:50 AM
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I'm going to ask you straight up. Are you certain you talk the same or close enough in person as you do online?
/r/seduction07/11/18 05:23 AM
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If you are confused, just do what you feel is right. Truth is you can attract women being honest or by lying. I would never say being indirect doesn't work, direct and indirect both work. Any guy saying being direct is boring and not attractive, probably hasn't done more than 100 direct approaches and is scared shitless of criticism or rejection on his ego. Being direct is actually quite intruing to a woman, because most women don't get sober men approaching them directly and boldly. Most women …
/r/seduction07/11/18 04:09 AM
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Why are you wasting time seeking validation by posting on here? Go approach women for your own pleasure or intimacy, not for the "congrats" and other validation from internet guys. C'mon man, you've started now keep going. And don't come back here again to celeberate. Do that privately when you've taken loads of action.
/r/seduction06/11/18 01:19 PM
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What do you usually imagine women will do if you let them know you're attracted to them?
/r/seduction06/11/18 01:16 PM
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I disagree. I think definitely say what you like about a woman when you approach. It shows you are not scared to say what's on your mind = ballsy = attractive. And that has nothing to do with putting her on a pedestal. You can like something without worshipping it. Your attraction to her is also not always obvious to her. A lot of women are insecure even when they're beautiful. And some may assume you approach them for sex initially but when you avoid verbalizing your attraction they often let g…
/r/seduction06/11/18 01:05 PM
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When you ask this question, it's way past when you should have moved on.
/r/seduction05/11/18 02:40 PM
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Hey faggot. You emphasised going out to practice as the better way in your post. My point is that you shouldn't do that. It's simpler and more effective to focus on getting laid, and let the skills develop on their own.
/r/seduction05/11/18 02:28 PM
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When you go out to get laid you're still practicing all the skills in seduction anyway. So this post is stupid.
/r/seduction05/11/18 02:03 PM
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Good to see we have something in common. And I disagree my methods are shallow. My methods in and of themselves just help a guy gets what he wants. If he wants a deep and meaningful relationship he can use my method in a similar way, if he wants casual sex he can use my method too. The reason it seems shallows is because the OP asked for how he can get laid, so I responded in a way specifically for his goal so of course it's going to be shallow on this thread. If a man has a shallow intention, t…
/r/seduction05/11/18 08:21 AM
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Well since you're a woman, I'm betting you don't go out and seduce other women, (unless you're an active lesbian or bi sexual, correct me if this is true) so you don't know what you're talking about. Your advice is merely what you think you'd respond to and not based on any experience of actually being the pursuer. Also in the seduction world 1% is awesome odds. That's 1 out of 100 women a man can sleep with doing it my way. A man can approach 33 women a week since the rejections will be very fa…
/r/seduction05/11/18 06:55 AM
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So to summarise the required rules. Be attractive Take good pictures
/r/seduction05/11/18 01:14 AM
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Nah I don't buy it. Ok firstly, I've gone home with women doing just this, so I don't know what you're talking about. Secondly, if I told her "I wanna hookup with you" the only reason a woman would stay after that is if she wanted to hookup or if a part of her wanted to hookup or was curious about it. If a salesman comes up to you and offer you some product that you don't want and says "I want you to buy this game right now." Why on earth would you stay there? Politeness? Sure that may be one re…
/r/seduction05/11/18 12:23 AM
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What signals? Be speciifc.
/r/seduction05/11/18 12:13 AM
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No they're not.
/r/seduction05/11/18 12:11 AM
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Yeah even though I wasn't there, I lost respect for him just for the way he acted. Not saying he can't get it back though. I can't respect guys who makes jokes about themselves in order to score pussy whilst avoiding challenging a woman when she does something disrespectful towards him.
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:02 PM
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Well you missed my point. Your self is not defined by old patterns of behaviours. You're just refusing to try on new behaviours, simple as that.
/r/seduction04/11/18 11:59 AM
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It's refreshing to hear someone else who gets it.
/r/seduction04/11/18 11:32 AM
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I'm not "scared of looking creepy Earlier you said " If I tried that I would look horribly creepy. " Why would you say that if you didn't have fears about looking creepy? I just know my humor and personality and this is not in frame with it. Everyone is different. Personality refers to individual differences in characteristic patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving. In this case what I'm proposing is a behaviour change by commanding respect via a question rather than making self deprecating j…
/r/seduction04/11/18 11:29 AM
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I use gay jokes all the time and it works great bro. So how many women did you sleep with after making gay jokes about yourself ? I’m gain attraction anyways, not respect. That's sad. To me, respect must be in place otherwise there's little chance of me getting any action from a woman. How can a woman sleep with a man she doesn't respect? Maybe for a pity fuck, but that's it. Also, I think there's not much you do really to gain respect, but there is plenty of things you can do to lose respect. S…
/r/seduction04/11/18 11:20 AM
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Getting a laugh is always good first of all. Nope. There are lots of funny guys that just don't get laid at all. If anything being too funny and telling lots of jokes can cost you sex. Women don't get wet with guys who make them laugh, they just laugh and enjoy your platonic company. You generally want to get on the same frequency in a sense. Agreed to an extent. Challenging her on something like that won’t do anything for you. Challenging her on playing games, means you get respected. Respect i…
/r/seduction04/11/18 10:17 AM
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If I tried that I would look horribly creepy. Hmm. So by the sounds of it, you haven't tried what I said or something similar, and you're imagining you would look horribly creepy. Thus your opinion is based on your imagination and not on experience. no need to assume she's taking him down a mentally exhausting path to oblivion. I never said she's taking him down a mentally exhausting path. I'm saying he is taking himself down a mentally exhausting path by engaging in the behaviour he did. I don'…
/r/seduction04/11/18 10:03 AM
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Cool. I welcome differing opinions. Tell me why my advice is terrible, and tell me why he did great.
/r/seduction04/11/18 09:21 AM
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Great. Tell me why, let's discuss.
/r/seduction04/11/18 09:21 AM
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What do you mean by seal the deal? Be specific. What is it that you want?
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:31 AM
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just say "oi come over"
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:29 AM
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I've done a lot of desnesitisation. But one thing which really transformed me and made me realised I don't even need to warmup is this. ​ If I know for a fact I can handle: Being rejected by the woman Being criticised by the woman Being disapproved of by others Then there is no or little fear. And I can approach confidently. Perhaps my advice instead of offering other exercises would be, think about those 3 fears. Can you handle a rejection? Were there any times in the past where someone rejecte…
/r/seduction04/11/18 07:02 AM
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I think you look below average to average looking. But I know uglier guys than you that get laid and have girlfriends so looks aren't the problem. Here's what I think are gonna be obstacles for you: (Obstacles can be overcome) Aspergers Low self-esteem Fears of women My advice: Get a job Move out on your own Get therapy for 1 year at least Read No More Mr Nice Guy and do ALL the breaking free exercises as best you can Go out, talk to women and ask them on dates a lot Keep a journal to do with wo…
/r/seduction04/11/18 06:48 AM
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Nice manners. And great dodge at my question.
/r/seduction04/11/18 06:35 AM
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My response is, why would a woman who is not interested stay in front of you when you have moved into her space and waste her energy on giving you a speech about how she's not a slut if she wasn't somewhat internally conflicted? Why would she not simply walk away, lean back or say "no thanks I'm not interested."? If she was truly not a slut why would she not just move on without the effort to persuade me that she's a good girl? Also I've never been kicked out of a party. I probably have been rej…
/r/seduction04/11/18 06:23 AM
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Ask five guys that are cute if they have a girlfriend. If they ask "Why?" You must say "Because you're cute :)"
/r/seduction04/11/18 06:09 AM
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I hardly physically escalate now days. But I might verbally escalate. And then one physical move and we're having sex. So e.g I might not touch a woman at all but I will be whispering what I want to do with her in her ear. Getting her hot and wet thinking about it. Then later when we're in the car. I look at her, and it's silent. She leans forward because of the amount of tension, and I lean forward to because the time is right. And we makeout, then she may suck my dick or fuck or something.
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:50 AM
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I asked her if she wanted to study together on campus after one of our classes in order to make it seem less forward. She gave me kind of a cryptic answer. At first she stated maybe and that she had to workout but, then she said that she usually works out before her classes anyway. I said "okay that's cool". She changed the subject and we talked about Halloween before we parted ways to our different classes. Harsh but true words below. Read at your own risk. You're a pussy for avoiding being for…
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:46 AM
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I think your missing a big step between steps 5 and 6 which is to simply be a human being and talk to her normally, ask her questions about herself, let her take initiative, listen, respond..very basic stuff Yeah if you want a girlfriend do that. But OP wants to get laid. Some girls will talk forever about shit that you don't care about, only to reject your advances later for sex. Sometimes you need to get to the point especially at a college party when your intentions are sex. Also from experie…
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:44 AM
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I asked her if she wanted to study together on campus after one of our classes in order to make it seem less forward. She gave me kind of a cryptic answer. At first she stated maybe and that she had to workout but, then she said that she usually works out before her classes anyway. I said "okay that's cool". She changed the subject and we talked about Halloween before we parted ways to our different classes. Harsh but true words below. Read at your own risk. You're a pussy for avoiding being for…
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:31 AM
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If you're looking for casual sex don't put it on your profile and don't tell it to women unless they ask . If you're looking for a relationship put "Bi" on your profile and say something like " For the most part I am straight but with a few highly attractive guys I will occasionally hookup." ​ Honesty is important in relationships. Casual sex, less is more.
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:16 AM
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When you say: I live in northern europe and over here women generally don't respond as warmly to direct approaches ​ Do the women mostly reject you? Or challenge you? Please answer as this is important. ​ A woman rejecting you will quickly say/do something like: "I"m not interested." "Sorry I have a boyfriend" *Says nothing and walks off* " I don't give out my numbers to strangers." etc. A woman testing/challenging you will usually have some emotion and say something like: "Do you always talk to…
/r/seduction04/11/18 05:09 AM
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Spot a girl and go up to her Get in her personal space Check if she: a) stays still or moves closer OR b) moves or leans away If she does b) move on to another girl and repeat from step 1. If she does a) say what's on your mind If you are kind of away from prying eyes or friends of either you or her, makeout with her for a bit Grab her hand, and whisper in her ear "I wanna hookup with you at my place." or something to that effect. No need to use those exact words. If she says nothing and looks a…
/r/seduction04/11/18 04:56 AM
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I went out solo last night. Made multiple approaches; had no success. It sucked. OK. What's your definiton of success? If you define success as: Did I get numbers? Sex? Dates? You need to change your definition of success. Make your definition of success something like: Did I approach ten women directly or get laid with one? This way if you take lots of action you succeed, no matter how the women respond which means you are in control of your success. And if you get laid with one woman, then you…
/r/seduction04/11/18 04:43 AM
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telling me that she has this cute guy friend at work that she thinks he’s into her I think you should stop making gay jokes to pass tests, and just ask her straightforwardly, "why are you telling me that?" in a neutral voice with a poker face. Put her on the defensive a bit. Don't need to get mad but do challenge her. If you start handling tests by responding the way you intially did you're going to have to learn how to handle things like that forever and ever. It's too exhausting in my opinion …
/r/seduction04/11/18 04:24 AM
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