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Imagine saying this in a thread about toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:54 PM
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I don't even know if he really broke a social code. Being creepy is subjective. Regardless, that isn't the point. People say it's a power thing and I don't see it. I want someone who thinks that to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 11:28 PM
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I specifically want to hear an answer from someone who believes the "position of power" concept. I don't mean things like a doctor, police officer, professor, or boss, i.e. direct authority figures. I see a lot more reasonable answers from people on this sub regarding this issue, but people here also tend to not buy that shit, even those who are pretty "left wing" on the issue. So not Harvey Weinstein, but Louis CK. He is accused of abusing his status when he had no direct authority over these w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:10 PM
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You can have regular sex and still agree with what incels say, if that's what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:12 PM
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Dan Blitzerian is what I picture TRP men imagine themselves being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:33 AM
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It's a symptom of status worship, it has nothing to actually do with rape. Rape/sexual assault is one manifestation of power, highlighting just rape and ignoring all the other ones does not solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:29 PM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:24 PM
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Maybe you aren't saying it but plenty of people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:42 PM
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It is not an abuse of power, why are we bastardizing this concept? Having power over someone doesn't mean you are using it or abusing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:06 PM
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Can't answer this in a vacuum. Just because we both work full time doesn't mean A. we are equally tired/busy and B. we contribute the same thing. I can tell you this though, I am more than willing to do most or all of the housework because I expect the mother of my kid to do most of the work with that. When it comes to other couples, it depends on so many other factors. I can't criticize or support anyone without knowing the relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 03:39 PM
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Losers love vengeance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:57 PM
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I get what you're saying. I don't think that post is really what I'm talking about though. What they deny is that men they find attractive can exhibit "nice guy" behavior and they wouldn't have a problem with it. I'm not saying they think looks don't matter at all, but they act like those nice guys aren't getting any because they are secretly assholes. There's obviously variation in the type of post, but I don't think "nice guys" are as real of a thing as the internet makes it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 02:08 AM
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It really depends, I gave examples for this exact reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:04 PM
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I would say "that person is ugly" not give them personality traits. I certainly wouldn't post it online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:44 PM
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That's probably part of it. Ironically most of these people are dudes virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:32 PM
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Maybe but that's not a real person
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:30 PM
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They don't deny it, they either hate it or aren't aware of it. The people who make fun of the Nice Guys are the ones who deny it. I don't care what definition they use, I'm going by the actual posts they upvote. This is their defintion: For all the self proclaimed "nice guys" who are actually manchildren or douches, or who mistake being spineless and pathetic for being nice. However: https://imgur.com/Pnbf3JB https://i.redd.it/q35tgxufnfnz.jpg https://imgur.com/ZtAOl5I https://i.redd.it/ttelk7lb…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:05 PM
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Why is all this extra bullshit added to the definition? A Nice GuyTM is a man who expresses negative feelings towards or questions the fact that women are more interested in looks and status than with how you treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:37 PM
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You aren't in their head. People draw the conclusion "if they are upset that no romantic feelings are being reciprocated, they obviously aren't nice. They are just pretending to be nice because they want to get laid." That is the bad logic I am criticizing. This: He does not help people because he genuinely likes to help, he always does it with a hidden agenda. This is a completely archetypal definition. It's not reality. It's not how people label others. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:35 AM
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It's an excuse to bully people. The same way anyone who says something inappropriate is obviously a rapist. We see one snippet of an interaction, from the bully's point of view. You can make anyone look bad out of context. The same people doing this are the same people against things like pussy pass denied. They don't give a shit about making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:46 PM
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That doesn't make sense. I like my job, I do it because I like it, but that doesn't mean you can stop paying me. "Nice guys" seem to get angry because they feel they are being taken advantage of, not just because they aren't getting what they want. Being nice and treating someone in a nice way are two completely different things. Sometimes the person doing it doesn't understand that, sometimes the person receiving it doesn't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:42 PM
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or maybe she's genuinely not that attractive compared to her mother. "Internet dudes" are quite used to 18 year olds since they themselves are the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 03:16 PM
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100% of people aren't one or the other. So it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:22 AM
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And most media executives are jews. That is the point if their comment. You must also believe this following the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:59 PM
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Often, sure, but not all the time. Nothing retains its value. Looks last long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:09 AM
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She wouldn't be on a date with you in the first place if that's you. All this touching discussion is within the context that she's willingly hanging out with you. You don't walk up to a complete stranger and touch her unless it's to get her attention and it's on the shoulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 08:06 PM
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You're loyal to the looks. You act like looks don't have a profound allure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:16 PM
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Often doesn't lead anywhere but further frustration/inadequacy. It often seems to be masking faults within yourself you should be addressing for better fulfillment. That's the negative side to shallowness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:15 PM
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Not true. Shallowness is something you should avoid for your own good. I agree that it's mislabeled constantly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:57 PM
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Those things are bad because those people are liars. That is separate from your definition of shallowness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:56 PM
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It could also mean only caring about something very insignificant. Like being with someone just because they drive a specific car for example. But essentially we're in agreement that it refers to a relationship/attraction contingent on something frivolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:42 PM
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Because it's really easy to be nice and pamper a girl at first and then you notice how annoying she is. The people throwing around words like "entitled" are the personification of a clickbait ad. There is 0 reason to listen to what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:55 AM
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Misogyny is the hatred of women. There's no need for a discussion. Stop looking for things to get mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 11:14 PM
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This is about having male friends, not getting along with men. She could have brothers, coworkers, and get along fine with the men she's romantically with. Beyond that, I don't get along with 99% of the population so why would I give a shit anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:32 PM
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My argument is you can't say which is harder just because you and these people similar to you agree. I didn't give my opinion either way. The fact that you think you're special because you're a software "engineer" says enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:29 PM
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Huge reach
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:27 PM
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No it doesn't. Maybe they don't want a bunch of dudes around them who just want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:26 PM
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I don't see how not having male friends would be a red flag of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:58 PM
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as a fucking software engineer You say that like you're an astronaut. Your entire post is "it's hard for me and my weeb colleagues so it's hard". No. You're probably not even good enough at your own job to be judging it entirely as a field.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:51 PM
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lmao k
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:49 PM
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That says RNs make 68, considerably less than any engineering discipline. And anesthetists have masters degrees, doctorate degrees, and work for 20 years before making 100k. Engineers with that background make double easily. Horrible comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:34 AM
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Show me one example. Just one. Where a nurse makes the same median income as an engineer. Or whatever you're claiming. I will tell you straight up you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:14 AM
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You being an introverted nerd doesn't make this a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:12 AM
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55k is on the low end of what engineers make right out of college. The median pay across all types of engineering and level is easily around 100k. Nurses work a shitload of overtime just to make what an entry level engineer makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:02 AM
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Not every bit of nightlife is to get drunk or get laid. This probably wont be a large enough affect to change the economy Holy fuck that's naive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:09 PM
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You are still correct in that they are not "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 07:40 PM
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That's what they tried. But in the end they got the girls by being themselves. The girl that the fat one liked didn't like when he acted like a jackass, but dated him when he came clean and Michael Cera refused to hook up with the drunk chick and he ended up dating her. The only one who became a bad boy was Mclovin. It was a much more realistic version of what teenage boys think/do, not really an example of the nice guy meme which is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 07:33 PM
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Youth is not more important than features, obviously there's a line. It's not between early and late 20s though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:41 PM
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I'd look somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:52 PM
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OK call it casual for the sake of discussion. Lust is sexual passion. All sexual encounters I have are lustful. What's the point if it's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:55 PM
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Yeah that's definitely part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:13 PM
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I didn't say "casual sex". I said someone I don't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:12 PM
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It's supposed to be symmetry, but practically: low body fat. Not at all. This is a huge misconception people spread. It gives the impression of dominance and strength. Which for humans can be achieved in a number of other ways. Sure, but that's not really what the woman is attracted to. She's attracted to the dominance and strength that only physical size can bring. When you act dominant, she might like it, but it does not compare to the real thing so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:04 PM
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That's one of the biggest factors. What do you think makes a face attractive? Why do you think height is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:50 PM
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Does anyone see sex with someone you don't love like masturbating with another's body? It's like it lacks 'soul' or true 'passion' or 'heart'. Not at all. I think it's more passionate. It is pure instinct. It's all lust and passion. Sex with a significant other is comfortable, which may or may not be a good thing depending on who you are. For me it's a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:27 PM
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A physical frame that can't be changed by better posture & lifting? No. A frame is your bone structure. You cannot change that. Posture has nothing to do with frame. Lifting changes your body composition, not your frame. You are thinking of more abstract things like gravity, which may or may not be innate. I don't think you understand the difference between innate qualities and gained qualities. In some sense nothing is innate that we didn't enter the world with But you are genetically predispos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:23 PM
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The same reason people stay at dead end jobs. They have no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 02:20 PM
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In that example I meant physical frame. No you cannot work to achieve this, are you serious? instead, women want the things they are attracted to to be "innate" You have it backwards. They want the things they see in you to be innate because it makes it easier. The fact that there are things that can be faked is why they wish this. The reason they wish it is because they are attracted to innate qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:56 PM
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That would be true for a woman who's perfect (at reading people and not being superficial) to a degree that doesn't exist. I am only pointing out the thought process, not its accuracy. They look for intrinsic qualities, that doesn't mean their conclusion is always correct. There is no such a clear distinction between innate and learned as you make it out to be. Humour, strength&stamina of various kinds, empathy.... all can be learned and acquired by experience. What are then the other more "inna…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:32 PM
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That doesn't make any sense. Instead of intrinsic, use innate and learned. Women are attracted to innate qualities. Learned behaviors indicate innate qualities. Displaying learned behaviors that contradict the innate qualities they believed you to have is what opening up is and why opening up is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:05 PM
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So then what you're saying is it is intrinsic value and not things you work to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 01:00 PM
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Women are generally attracted to things that are not "intrinsic" to you For attraction it doesn't matter how hard you worked on sth, but rather how natural it comes to you. These two statements contradict each other. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 12:54 PM
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I don't understand what you mean by "second side". The emotional talk that scares women is when you come on too fast. Meaning you broke a social rule, you violated a social expectation. Yet you could say the exact same words in the same way under different circumstances and it would not scare them away because it's not really "opening up". It only causes a negative reaction when you contradict their idea of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:51 AM
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So that they know me better and deeper. Yes, as the relationship progresses. But that is an expectation of people so by being open you are not violating the idea someone has of you. I don't consider that opening up. I'm trying to draw the distinction between the quality of openness and the act of opening up. To go back to the original thread, I think you can broadly distinguish between where people come from and what they try to make of themselves. Women are attracted to men when they are secure…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 02:12 PM
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I see what you're saying. Let me rephrase, "opening up" implies someone has a false impression of you. Freely talking about how you feel about something isn't opening up, it is already what you are. Or expressing your feelings & giving a false impression thereof by being selective and/or dishonest with your own feelings. Or freely expressing your feelings except for that childhood trauma. These are all false impressions. Why would you need to "open up" to someone who knows you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:42 PM
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That doesn't make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:29 AM
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Opening up implies you were giving a false impression in the first place. Talking about/expressing feelings is not a problem on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 09:18 PM
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The main question here is, should children have an inalienable right to be provided for by anyone but those who choose to bear them? I don't think so. Bearing a child is the unilateral right a woman has, therefore only women should be held accountable. Please explain why this doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:31 PM
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with an intellectually dishonest pouty pants. lol Anyways. Child support exists to support children given certain assumptions. The assumption is that pregnancy results in parenthood. But that assumption is not valid. Birthing a child is a choice, raising a child is a choice. Parenthood is no longer the direct result of conception, but the choice of an individual woman, a choice women fought very hard to have the right to make. So why should we force people to pay for the result of another person…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:57 AM
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You didn't address anything. You made claims and didn't justify them. Why should support be given? I'm not saying any of that. It is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:46 AM
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Please justify forcing men to pay money for children they do not want. But, we all know there are guys in the world who think they should be able to stick their dick wherever they please and not have to own up to the consequences. So, because of guys like that, the ones who can't take responsibility, the tax payers get to. It's a lot more nuanced than that, but why bother talking to people who so adamantly refuse to use their brains and join reality. This is all nonsense speak, stop ranting and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:34 AM
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send nudes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:16 AM
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Where is the force here? Not wanting a kid is a personal choice that may or may not support her personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:14 AM
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You act like child support payments are some natural occurrence. Child support was created because it was assumed that a pregnancy resulted in a child being born. If that assumption is no longer valid, child support is no longer valid. Abortion rights invalidate the risk of sex resulting in parenthood as a basis for argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:08 AM
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Force means you have no other options. If you don't want to have an abortion you can keep the kid yourself or give it up for adoption. The only people being forced here are men paying for a kid they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:46 AM
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And that lack of consequence makes it so we don't have a right to see a child we want carried to term. Imagine being a man who wants a kid, but the woman gets it aborted. That probably sucks more than a simple medical procedure. It sucks either way unless both people want the kid. This isn't a strong argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:37 AM
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You communicate this to your partner because it makes it clear you have a problem, not because it's going to lead to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:00 AM
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You don't need a female friends for the benefit that brings. I'm not saying it has no value or it isn't worth it for anyone to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:55 PM
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I agree, but recently a handful of people were in agreement that not having female friends was a deal breaker for dating a man. It's also fairly common outside this subreddit for people to advocate having female friends as if it will "do something for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:30 PM
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I don't agree entirely. You know you aren't going to become romantically interested in someone of the same sex and they won't in you. For the most part. Plus it's easier to relate to people of the same sex as you often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:22 PM
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This is largely a reaction to people who say not having female friends is bizarre and you should have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:19 PM
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Not true. She will assume you would never use your power on her unless you give reason. "Not being a murderer" is not a beta trait. People assume safety often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:58 PM
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if women want the choice then men should have it too, but if a man agrees to support her then back out she might have factored his commitment into her choice to keep the baby, so I find that to be unfair. Likewise if the woman commits to an abortion or adoption but changes her mind and tries to force the father, that should be unacceptable. Yes. Opting out would only make sense during the period where women still have the choices. You shouldn't be allowed to leave a mother with a 3 year old or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 08:07 PM
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Why would the state abuse it's power Why does the scorpion sting the frog? Why would the state abuse it's power if there was a law that allowed men to have more freedom in regards of when they can decide to become a parent ? This is not law. This is the absence of law. The state cannot abuse its power in the absence of law because it has none. I agree that if women can't be forced into motherhood we shouldn't force fathers into fatherhood, but there's no clean or blanket way to do this without i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 04:12 PM
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The system can't be abused if it's written down and agreed to. This is when the state will abuse its power, which should always be avoided. That's why people hate SJWs and socialists, they want to give government more power. It's not that I disagree with much of their outrage, it's that I strongly disagree with their "solution". I guess I don't view it as a safety net. It is a safety net. This is another thing people get frustrated when arguing about rights. The right holders cannot see how luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 03:35 PM
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That's much more reasonable than anything else you've said. However, some people will always abuse their rights. I'm sure a few men would do that, just like a few women lie to men telling them they would get an abortion if they got pregnant, then they don't, carry out the baby and collect payments. Either way there's room for abuse. There are always risks. You accept them every time you have sex with someone. It's still not a reasonable basis to apply a safety net to one party and not the other.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 03:18 PM
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I think that women have the right not to have a medical procedure FORCED on them one way or the other How are you still saying this when I've explained very clearly how women wouldn't be forced to do anything? I'm not reading anything else if you can't follow what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 03:07 PM
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Outside cases of rape or loss of life/limb, why should women have the right to abort? Why would any woman choose to abort if it's so bad? Why would any woman choose to give her baby for adoption if it's so hard? Clearly there are circumstances where these are better alternatives than raising the kid. Are you with me so far? So why do you not understand the proposal of men opting out during a period of time where the woman has all of these options available to her? No one is being forced to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 07:11 AM
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Yup. Good hash out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:39 AM
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Should men bear more of the burden of war because they are more disposable, biologically? Yes. If women are fully responsible for children, should men not have automatic parental rights? In unmarried couples, yes. I think it should be similar to what I'm talking about with finances. There's a window (during pregnancy) where the woman can deny the father the right to custody, but after that window is closed it goes to family court. Also, don't get me wrong, I appreciate your thoughts on this. Sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:29 AM
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Which argument? and an example please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:10 AM
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Ok you're not listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:09 AM
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The "consequences" of getting pregnant are part of being a woman. It also comes with the right to unilaterally choose to bring a child into the world. Rights/responsibilities, choice/consequence. You cannot have one without the other. You're right that that is the most ideal situation, but also the most ideal situation is women being smarter about who they sleep with. We can't expect people to be smart. What we can do is not shove the responsibilities and decisions of one person on other people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 02:01 AM
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We're talking about circumstances where men would be able to legally opt out of raising a kid. Along with it would come losing all custodial rights. So your situation would not be possible in those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:53 AM
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Because the fairest way for women to opt out is also pre-sex, but that isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:51 AM
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What I'm saying is your arguments are extremely hypocritical. If you disagree with pro lifers who say women should abstain from sex if they don't want to get pregnant, you should also disagree with people saying men should abstain from sex if they don't want to pay child support for 18 years. There's no logical supportive argument for abortion that can't be applied to financial opt out. That's why these arguments against them are identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:49 AM
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Abortion benefits men if the woman allows it to. That is backwards. Women shouldn't be forced to abort just because the man doesn't want to pay. They wouldn't be. They can give it up or raise it themselves. Men are forced to pay for a kid they don't want. Again, getting an abortion is easier than that for many people. No sympathy from me. She had to raise a child. No she doesn't. Abortion. Adoption. Guys who can't afford to raise children via child support shouldn't agree to sex with women. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:46 AM
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I'm not going to base my argument around what some men might do. What some men might do should not dictate what all men must do. Besides, the period of time men have the right to opt out would have to be within a certain time frame. Enough time for the woman to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:43 AM
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What is wrong with allowing women that alternative PRE-SEX? What don't you get about the ethical difference between taking responsibility for the child inside you and killing it? Does that argument against abortion make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:35 AM
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Why are you birthing a child into this situation? That is your dumbass decision. Deal with it. Your choice, your responsibility. OR getting pregnant is both parents' responsibility and we don't have abortion for personal choice reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:30 AM
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What exactly am I supposed to be taking from what you're saying? Am I supposed to feel bad that women have a safe alternative to paying for a kid for 18 years? Give me any of those options over the ladder. I'd rather spend a year in prison than pay for a kid I don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:29 AM
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Then why allow abortions for anything other than cases of rape or serious harm to the woman's health? Don't you understand how this argument makes no fucking sense? This is quite literally what pro life people say about women getting pregnant. People can accept personal choice reasons for women, but not men for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:16 AM
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What is your point? Certain things can't be equalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:15 AM
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You mean a legally binding agreement? Yeah that'd be a bit intrusive. That's exactly what I'm against. A better option than what? What is the goal? Because men opting out is better for everyone. The current state of affairs is only good for women who don't want a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:15 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:12 AM
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Women have the same level of control, if not more. Why is she getting pregnant by someone who isn't willing or able to provide for a kid given the circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:11 AM
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When a man opt out, woman is stuck with baby. This is what I am responding to. She is not "stuck" with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:04 AM
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possibly due to their sexuality and inherent belief that they should be entitled to sex and therefore anything which limits their ability to freely have sex is oppressive and unfair, and this includes being held responsible for children you bear. Oh you mean like the logic women apply to birth control coverage and abortion rights? You can convolute the arguments all you want. This comes down to people not wanting to take responsibility from all angles. If we're going to allow women to opt out, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:01 AM
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She could abort or give it up for adoption. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 11:49 PM
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It's a prize in an abstract sense, not a literal prize as in a reward for winning an literal competition. As in choosing the one everyone else wants just for the sake of it regardless of how you feel about them. It's a hang up on semantics. You aren't wrong, they aren't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:35 AM
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Use what argument? "Freeze response" is a red herring. It's never about the freezing. Every time someones says this is rape, they also add information regarding the man's behavior. This is about rape accusations and punishment despite normal behavior on the man's behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:04 PM
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It could be, but that doesn't mean the rule is fair or logical considering the attitude people portray. The fact that it happens at all is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:12 PM
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Wait so are you saying this isn't a problem or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:42 PM
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No. You are writing the story to be rape. That is literally not what we're talking about at all. She didn't freeze up if she said no. That's not the story. There are people literally saying yes until the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:06 PM
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Well I'm not talking about those cases. Bringing them up is not relevant. We are talking about campus rules, if a man knows a woman is drunk, he knows he can get kicked off campus, he is knowingly breaking campus rules then why is it that women must always take responsibility while men just go 'Oh but ma hormonez, can't control self wimmins fault'. He knows the consequences but does it anyway. Why is it women always have to take responsibility? But a man feeling the consequences of his choices i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:04 PM
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It's pretty cut and dry to me. Yes we blame the person willingly putting themselves in the situation and not being clear about what they want. How do you end up in bed with someone, without clothes on, and freeze at the thought of having sex? I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous to me. It's her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:03 PM
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I'm not sure which thread you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:00 PM
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So getting raped (a crime I believe) and wanting 'courts, judges, and campus tribunals' to do something about it is akin to 'daddy on the porch with a shogun for them when their free choices go awry.' They should be responsible for 'the consequences of those choices,' which I guess means not prosecuting the people who commit a crime, because they are not responsible for 'the consequences of those choices.' People are being punished for doing nothing wrong though. Have you not seen any stories of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:23 AM
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You mean the news article that is about the perp being either wanted for a crime or already in custody? When is a news report ever "some guy got stabbed lol what now?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:18 AM
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But getting blackout drunk at a frat party is your fault. That's the point here. That's how you stop certain acts, by not allowing it to take place at all. Like how ending the drug war and decriminalizing drugs ends drug related violence. Fighting fire with fire doesn't always work and isn't the solution here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:16 AM
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Where exactly does that say prisoners freeze up? This thread is about the notion that there are situations a woman literally cannot avoid being raped because she's scared at no threat of violence. Why do these threads always devolve into being about extorted sex when that isn't the topic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:09 AM
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Because they're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:34 AM
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Stalin?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:09 AM
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What? Look at Europe in the 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:40 AM
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No they can be bad. Fantastic 4 is a bad movie. You can like it, but it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:42 PM
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Yeah I thought my points could've been summarized more succinctly. Expanded it for the sake of the thread to specific things I've seen more commonly. "Feminist" - meaning fights the imaginary wage gap, argues men and women are the same, etc. "Socialist" - wants rich people to pay for everything. Wants free shit without consequence. Ignores the fact that socialism spawns fascism, etc. I don't take issue with people who have rational stances under these ideals, I just don't like ideologues, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:18 PM
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Because it's often said and not followed/understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:52 PM
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...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:50 PM
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Didn't even realize that ha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 05:33 PM
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That's why I said bad and not different. Are you paying attention? And this is about red flags. Red flags are sometimes false alarms. It could mean nothing. Nothing you said is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 05:31 PM
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Not off the top of my head. Also I'm not trying to get into an argument about subjective things. I mean not interesting at all. As in lacking depth, lacking passion, lacking taste. That's why I said "bad" and not "different".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:10 PM
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I've been here longer than you. I don't care what TRP says. I'm talking to you and you're talking to me. You are strawmanning by arguing with me about a distinction apparently some TRP users fail to recognize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:50 PM
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Imagine cosmopolitan magazine in music or movie form. It's a red flag for being not interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:50 PM
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What if the bully genuinely just wanted to ask for some lunch money and the nerd got scared and gave it to him? Then the nerd should nut up. Seriously. What is hard to understand about this? What someone unintentionally makes you feel is your fault. You are not a victim of anything but your own fear. How is this not comparable to a guy that "asks" for sex by getting on top of her and pinning her down. This is an act of violence dude. That's the difference. The same way punching someone in the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:23 PM
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I already did. And it's part of what I'm addressing. How do you consent to a sexual act you are on the passive end of? It still has nothing to do with what I said to you though, which is your awful bully analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:59 PM
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Of course I can. I'm able to do it because I leave my room and interact with people. However some people are just as bad at non verbally communicating as they are verbally communicating. That's what makes "yes means yes" unnecessary. Making us all subject to the rules of the incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:49 PM
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You are completely ignoring how important intent is though. A bully's intent is to rob someone. In your example, that person's intent is not to rape someone. The bully doesn't genuinely believe the nerd wants to give them their money. HUGE distinction. You're trying to change the way we think about sex, which is innate. It's not meant to be so controlled. It's not just about "technically not saying no". A woman who is physically resisting/pulling a way is also clearly not consenting. The line is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:45 PM
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Cares too much about social media slut "feminist" "socialist" doesn't self educate at all likes bad movies/music Too ethnocentric - this includes being overly tolerant. Can't really think of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:40 PM
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How exactly does affirmative consent solve the problem of men threatening women into having sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:21 PM
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You can be a career woman with a social life. Never said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:18 AM
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What I'm saying is any given woman is not better off being a career woman. That's not how most people find peace and fulfillment. You don't have to get this through a relationship, but you most likely will get it from social means (friends, family, pets, religion, etc). Most people are built for that, not work. You will most likely fail trying to be happy as a tycoon, with already high improbability of even becoming one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:56 AM
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Then why did you explain what it indicates? Clearly it matters. The question is not about your preference, it's about red flags, meaning it must indicate something else. Your assertion is incorrect. Like being ugly isn't a "red flag", it's just self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:48 AM
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Because it's hard when you want a complex relationship. All I'm saying to you is you are not an example of someone who has what people desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 07:12 PM
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You don't understand what it's like to be in a normal relationship where sex and babies are extremely important
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 07:01 PM
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Well people typically want kids, want a family unit, a passionate bedroom, etc. If you don't understand having a strong desire that, how would you understand this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 05:50 PM
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What would you know about typical women in typical relationships? How can you reasonably use yourself as an example of someone who can balance a career and a relationship when you have a completely atypical experience with romance? You call normal women incompetent as if you yourself do what they think they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 05:24 PM
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You aren't going to be emotionally secure being a career workaholic unless that's what you're built for. And if this is your mentality, you aren't built for it. Everyone thinks people make this huge sacrifice of not pursuing a busy career, but chances are they weren't going to be able to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:38 PM
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Didn't you say you were a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:33 PM
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"Liberal" in the US means social liberalism. If you oppose the goals of SJWs, Feminists, BLM, etc, you are not liberal in the US. I guess I see more of that than anything. The only one's that aren't liberals are fascists. This is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 03:58 PM
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I don't think so either. "You like that you fucking retard?" is better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 01:42 AM
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That could've been one, the main one was ranking the qualities. It worked for the other categories (all, RP, BP, etc), but not men and women so it's not the browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 03:24 PM
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I'm not extremely low libido, but sex isn't a distraction for me at all. It doesn't really cloud my mind as much as I think it does other people. I hear people complain about not having sex for a week or people who will literally do whatever they can to get laid by anyone who isn't disgusting. Those are not occurrences in my life. It's never been a direct relationship issue, but I think it translates to women feeling like I don't do enough in other areas. They're used to men who will do anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:43 PM
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Some of the results are fucked up in the men/women categories. The pie charts are all separate. Really surprised by the number of RP liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:31 PM
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Financial abortion goes along with abortion though. That's the problem. Since when do we grant different rights based on biological differences? I thought pointing things like that out gets you fired? That's where the logical inconsistencies come in. In other facets of debate by the same people supporting abortion rights. Take gay marriage. Gays were never denied the right to get married, they just can't marry each other. Straight people can't marry same sex either. Same rights...right? I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 12:49 AM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 12:41 AM
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The woman shouldn't birth a child into a bad situation, this is why mice eat their kids. Your logic is heavily flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 09:58 PM
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Because power comes with responsibility. Giving one side all the power but distributing the responsibility and accountability evenly does not make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 07:35 PM
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I don't understand why it's assumed this would lead to higher taxes or shitty lives for children. Kill it, give it up. End of story. I support financial abortion because it gives men control of their lives. People can accept ending a life for the sake of a woman, they should accept this. Not because of gender equality, just logical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 04:57 AM
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So show us them and change our minds
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 04:47 AM
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Evidence in IQ testing suggests so. Women are more socially adjusted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 10:08 PM
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I'm talking about a society with infrastructure, I thought that was obvious. Walls and weapons exist. This society is far enough removed from the elements. So a modern society. I find it amazing you'd place men's value today solely on their ability to create offspring I literally never did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:42 PM
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Ok, let's just make this clear. What population has a better chance of survival, one with 100:1 women to men or vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:07 PM
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And no one claimed otherwise. Stop talking in extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:50 PM
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We aren't talking about nations, I said the species. A nation can cease to exist and the species is still fine, society is still fine. This isn't about tribal conflict. Furthermore stop talking in extremes. No one said nothing would change, I said it would be fine. Populations need women more than men, that's just a fact. We don't need a man for every woman - that is the basis of this argument. What's more important, food or water? Obviously both are important but water is undoubtably more impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:45 PM
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The US military is <1% of the population, it does not require that many people to protect a group. And if 50% of the men from each nation died, there wouldn't be an increase in threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:12 PM
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The average woman is more important. Does that make more sense to you? Half of all men could die right now and the species would be fine, possibly better in a sense. The same cannot be said about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 12:54 PM
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I confirm that I believe your personal experience doesn't apply to the concept at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 01:12 PM
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And you probably weren't anyone's real desire
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:39 PM
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I definitely haven't read close to 80% of the manosphere and don't plan on it, but are you sure? Because it's my understanding they choose to emulate men with a wide net, which is essentially the archetypal everyman among attractive guys. There's no point in emulating a niche person, especially when you're clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:36 PM
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I have no idea, maybe 10% max.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:12 PM
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Some, yeah. Strippers wear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:54 PM
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It's soft
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:48 PM
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So this is about sexual harassment and not "bro culture". Why is it not being called what it supposedly is? Many things are bad PR, that doesn't make them issues. I'd much rather see people be more rational to eliminate this attitude than see money wasted on bullshit like sensitivity training.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 12:33 PM
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Do you define bro culture as having sexual assault or can it exist without it? If every other aspect of bro culture minus sexual assault was the case, would you still have a problem? That's pretending there is actually a sexual harassment problem at these companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 12:11 PM
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What about it is a problem? Why is this not sexist? Is the feminist culture in nursing or teaching a "problem"? Is the Indian culture in IT problem? If you don't like a company's culture, why the fuck are you working there?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 12:02 PM
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It's better than them not saying it but yeah, it'd be over right then and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 12:09 AM
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I'm a walking stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 07:59 PM
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I was waiting for someone to post their body fat %, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 07:57 PM
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The only thing people can learn is to not be nervous and not crack under pressure. That only comes with practice. You definitely still have to have the type of personality connected to success - that cannot be learned. It's an art, you can't learn how make good art. You can certainly improve, but if you don't have it, you don't have it. You can learn all the techniques in the book and still get no results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 03:55 PM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 07:29 PM
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It entirely depends on how they handle it, their intentions, etc. Watching someone sleep around to essentially get revenge on (or to a lesser extent, get over) their ex is pathetic to me. It might not be something you encounter because they do other pathetic things in general. Being physically attractive only goes so far unless you're god tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:23 PM
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Women are better parents. Discrimination and genocide based on opposing views is not a viable way of fixing problems. Discrimination? I was being facetious with the other thing I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:56 AM
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I was unclear of what you meant by pink tax. I was wrong, what I should have said was stop being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:55 AM
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Issues like false rape accusations are too rare and difficult to counter properly, and things like being a incel are just not something anyone but the incel can fix. The same could be said about any "gender issue". The only gender issue is the people walking around playing pretend that men and women are the same thing. All gender "problems" stem from that. Stop allowing those people to be employed and have homes and food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:17 AM
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Stop costing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:13 AM
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Certainly possible, but I'd wager it's because those people don't have many friends irl and online is their only outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:37 PM
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Display what behavior? How do you get friend zoned online anonymously? I was talking about people who have talked to me about being nice not getting them women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:15 PM
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Not sure I agree with that statement. But who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:01 PM
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I've seen guys complain about being nice and not getting anything in return. However I don't call them "nice guys" and shit on their behavior. I just say that you shouldn't pamper a girl who isn't interested in you. I've never met any of the seriously desperate guys you see online. I've actually seen way more women who fit that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:18 PM
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Does anyone dispute this? A lot of people simply don't understand that the thing they value in themselves isn't valuable to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 03:14 AM
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bless your heart
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 09:15 PM
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I couldn't watch the video, I made several bold assumptions with my comment. I don't take anything I said back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:35 PM
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too many indians and chinese
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:34 PM
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Then go to a different school Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 06:02 PM
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This is absolutely true and exactly how I view the situation. You'll find that those 20% of women in engineering are all in the top half of the class. However, the downside of this is as more people flood the job market, the field itself will not be viewed as having the successful status it has now. "Success" is relative and contingent on scarcity. With a lack of scarcity, tech is no longer such a direct path of success. That's why the discussion needs to be separate. Talking about a lack of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:40 PM
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It's not that it has no impact, it's that it shouldn't have the impact people claim it has if you have the ability to be successful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:20 PM
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How do you disprove fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:02 PM
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I don't know how anyone can look at this woman and aspire to be that. She's not attractive and weird, no fucking wonder she desperately needs to prove being single is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:54 PM
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You wouldn't be, these fields are around 20% women. The only one really low is electrical engineering, which no one in the US should want to do anymore anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:30 PM
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Thank you, I couldn't get through 30 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:42 PM
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I never said anything to the contrary. That's a very specific situation too. Most people talking about this topic haven't even been alive for 26 years, let alone been friends with a woman for that long. Being friends with women isn't a strategy to get your dick wet though. This is literally what your post is. Phrasing it lightly doesn't change that fact. I never said it was some strategy. Hell I don't even have any strategy. It's still a strategy, even if a loose one. I am telling you that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:25 PM
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And even when sex is considered, it's still not necessarily sexist in the discriminatory sense. If a company is looking for someone long term and a woman is 26, just because she has marginally better credentials on paper doesn't mean she's the best long term investment. There's a much higher probability she will leave to start a family than her male counterpart. That isn't discrimination to pay her less or not hire her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:20 PM
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This still doesn't make it a "great way". Like I said, it depends on the type of person you are and how close this friendship really is. I've dated women I knew who they were for months, but we were by no means friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:35 PM
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It depends on how you are as a person. I'm not saying you're wrong. I need the foundation/beginning of a relationship to be built on passion. That's something that dwindles whether or not we've ever been sexual. I've been friends with a few women I was sexually attracted to at first, but lost interest since they were unavailable for whatever reason. Being friends with them is cool too, but that initial lust is gone. Some people also view this as settling, which is not the best feeling. And I tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:25 PM
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I agree. You should in theory be at least acquainted with anyone you meet because like you said, you never know. But just because I got a job through my drug dealer doesn't mean I would suggest talking to drug dealers while unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:13 PM
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I'm well aware that it happens. But it's a shit foundation to start a relationship. To suggest it is retarded, especially to people who are frustrated with women for this exact type of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:07 PM
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My attitude is considered sexist, and I don't have a problem with that. I don't complain, but I will not support the idea of equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 02:50 PM
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A great way compared to what? You can even end up dating women who have boyfriends. Sometimes people break up and if you are friends with a woman she may decide that she would rather date you and breakup with her boyfriend. Then you have the opportunity to make her your girlfriend. This is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 02:46 PM
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I don't think I change anything at all. I'll express the same opinions with the same tone. The difference is I typically will not engage with insane people irl. If someone talks to me about the patriarchy or some shit irl I'll probably ignore them whereas online I might state my piece to a more reasonable audience. As to how I treat women, depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:25 PM
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The biggest one is probably that they're with someone for the reasons they want to be and vice versa. It goes for people who are very attached and very distant. That's just a general fantasy people have about everything though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 08:12 PM
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I never chose a woman in an RPG so there's your answer. I don't think I'd be happy as a woman. I might redistribute my stats though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:42 PM
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Hard to really say from one perspective. Women certainly have a better chance at an easier life, but it's not so clear cut and not everyone can do that, not the average women. It's like claiming we have it easier than people did 200 years ago because we have all this shit they didn't have. Different lifestyles harbor different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:39 PM
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I doubt this was a careless move on his part to all the people calling him an idiot. He has some publicity in his future! Maybe he was tired of being a desk nerd, he'll get his 15 minutes now. The liberal reaction is no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:18 PM
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My pocket seems to have quoted and added a "p" to one of your comments. I didn't do that. Pan asshole could be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:39 AM
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Don't forget that if you try to flip the script and ask what women bring to the table, then you're pan asshole or shallow, depending on whether you're looking for character traits, or physical traits. For the amount of pressure women try to put on men, they sure do poorly when a guy tries to put pressure on them. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:14 PM
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This is how I look at it too. I don't think it has anything to do with equality or any social dynamic. It's purely what drives the relationship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:38 PM
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Social media definitely seems to feed the narcissist in people. I don't think it's a surprise to anyone that women get much more attention and validation through it. It would only make sense for women to be more narcissistic in that regard. Money has a similar effect so as women earn more, it would make sense for them to also be more narcissistic than women in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:11 PM
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Yes, but not more than most people expecting too much. It's common among most people in most facets of life to expect too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:15 PM
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Learn to read context. It is relative, as a told you in my first response to you. Do you have an actual point to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:47 AM
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Some do, some don't. Why are you unable to grasp this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:46 AM
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Ok, but relatively speaking, they dont. Significantly less prioritize it as a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:41 PM
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Depends on where you are. If you can survive in LA in general you should be able to date successfully. SF is another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:00 PM
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Yes. What exactly are you getting at here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:57 PM
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There are various reasons to complain. Are the people complaining the same people not caring in your situation? I didn't say all or even most women care so even if what I say is true, there'd still be women complaining. Also, perhaps the very fact they are complaining about them rather than ignore them speaks volumes about how much they truly do care. Why complain about people outside your sphere? They must not care that much since they got close enough to them to complain about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:35 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 09:11 PM
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My grandfather misses the days he could offer something of value too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:12 PM
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What is it about being an asshole that people think is attractive? Asshole behavior is a quality in and of itself. I don't think it correlates to other traits, it is what it is. Bitter people are assholes too. Powerless people can be assholes. What separates successful assholes from unsuccessful non assholes has nothing to do with the asshole quality. Being an asshole is always bad and unattractive. That's kind of the point of the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:43 PM
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Did you only read this comment and decide or did you read the comment chain? What makes something logical that this is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:12 PM
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Relatively speaking, they don't. Doesn't make sense in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:09 PM
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I never disagreed with you on that, I would say it's a minority on both genders, although I'd say it's considerably more men that care. But it seems we agree on that ultimately. Depends on what you mean by care. It's interesting you say many say they care and do the opposite because I'd wager the it's the other way around. More men will say they don't care to appease women. But I can't prove that it's just what I think intuitively. Whether or not a woman should care about being a slut is conting…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:33 AM
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So they love partying, that still isn't loving sluts. If they loved sluts, they'd also love quite boring sluts which, judging by your previous comment, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:15 AM
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A. Never said it didn't, women just don't seem to care as much as men. B. I'm saying men exclusively slut shame women because they are potential sexual partners. Why would a man slut shame a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:05 AM
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What can I possibly show you to prove you wrong? I'm not interested in changing your mind right now. Again, nothing you just said is what a slut is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:04 AM
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Some nerds are. Some party girls are not. You are objectively wrong. I understand the perception, but it is not correct to conclude what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:59 AM
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A. That's a conclusion by psychology. I'd say it applies to this. B. That's a separate thing I already explained. A promiscuous man does not have any effect on another man. C. I agree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:57 AM
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That has nothing to do with them being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:52 AM
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They don't love sluts, they love sex. What you describe is not what I'm talking about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:29 AM
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Women slut shame women more than men. But I'm saying men slut shame women more than women slut shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:13 AM
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It was perhaps a logical decision to pursue a particular lucrative field, but the desire is feeling. The path is logical, the feeling is not. That's the parallel I'm trying to draw here. If it logically has no bearing on your own future why bother? If a person's past behavior has a strong correlation to their future behavior, would slut shaming be logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:10 AM
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I mean what you just said - if you go to the root, all actions are driven by feeling. Let me ask you this, is it logical to not care about someone's sexual history?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:00 AM
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Okay that's incorrect, I suggest looking into it. If you accept it then that's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:43 AM
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All actions are driven by feeling. To say this is illogical is to call all behavior illogical. Not being averse to sluts would also not be logical. I guess what's important is, do you accept that men slut shame more than women because it's gross to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:41 AM
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I explicitly said the feeling itself wasn't logical in my first comment. The decision to shame sluts (for lack of a better phrase) is what is logical given the existence of the feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:29 AM
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It's gross because we feel that it's gross. Why is anything gross? It's a potential threat. It's how our brains work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:26 AM
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So you're saying the double standard doesn't exist or what? All I'm saying is it makes sense to be averse to people who sleep around (for both genders) and it makes sense for men to slut shame women but not themselves. I didn't comment on how many people do it, I'm only commenting on the logic behind the double standard and why it's "gross". It seems to be more gross to men than women demonstrated by what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:24 AM
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The reason men aren't gross for sleeping around is women don't care (and often like it) when men sleep around. Women are gross for sleeping around because we care when they do. Other men aren't going to think a man is gross because that man isn't a potential sexual partner. It's illogical in the sense that it's a feeling, but the social attitude is logical given the existence of the feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:44 AM
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What claims specifically do you think fuel bad discrimination? The first thing that needs to be realized is discrimination doesn't equal bad. It is an abstract idea. Who exactly needs to be addressed? Because the only backwards groups with large political power right now are the "progressives" who support the rejection of scientific thought. The people that seem to really need to be addressed are school administrations who teach students this bullshit. Special interest groups on either side woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:34 PM
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It definitely depends, but like 99% sure I wouldn't. Maybe she traveled to 60 countries over 12 years and had a boyfriend in each, that might be an exception. That's much different than a chick who just banged everyone in college. It's never the number in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 02:45 AM
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I don't see nearly as many blue pill posts as I used to, what happened here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:32 PM
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So no evidence whatsoever then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:04 AM
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Show us the wedding photos and you might have somewhat of a case to make here. I don't even believe you have 3 attractive high earning friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:51 AM
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Well that's speech, not really voice. I do understand what you're saying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:04 PM
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You mean it's tied to your perception of confidence in someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 08:10 PM
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It sucks if they can't/don't do anything about it. People with depression and anxiety issues, but are still able to function, it's not a huge deal. But I've never dealt with anything more serious than that. I've had friends with bad bipolar disorder and they were ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:02 PM
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They key is to slowly ruin her close relationships, that way she has no outside influence in her decision to marry you. Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 02:12 PM
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Literally the same situation I know someone is in as well. It's weird because the people involved are weird. They'd seem off regardless of the relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:50 PM
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Can you clarify how complete sexual freedom differs from the current status of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:56 PM
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so that means attractive people should be double exploited? That's what you aren't explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:49 PM
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I would say school encourages the complete opposite in its current form.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:26 PM
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So because you give 1/3 of your money away they have to give 1/3 of their money and sex away? That is logical to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:25 PM
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You are still talking about bodily autonomy, but you are not equating taxes with forced sex work. The only parallel here is sex workers should pay taxes. Like that's all you're really saying. Why did you just start talking about feminism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:17 PM
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lmao dude, this is depraved and just naive. Open a book and walking outside sometimes. You have still provided zero logic behind taxes = forced sex workers. Stop talking about bodily autonomy and taxes and just explain that. They are the same because they both exploit bodily autonomy? Is that your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:58 PM
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You forgot the mention the part where he was stealing food and was arrested for burglary.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:44 PM
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Your logic is completely unsound, I am refuting all of it. You are using language and concepts that are metaphorical to describe a literal economic concept in a discussion about economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:37 PM
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I get that, but that doesn't relate to making people have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:35 PM
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Taxation is to publicly fund projects that are deemed necessary in society. I don't have an issue with logic behind the proposal of a government sex program, I have an issue with equating paying taxes a program like that. That's all I'm saying here. Taxes are a unique concept, you can't apply the logic behind taxes to other facets of society. It is an entity among itself. That's what I don't think you grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:34 PM
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And we used to wipe our asses with leaves, what's your point? Currency is a very specific concept, as are goods and services. Equating the two in this discussion is fundamentally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:02 PM
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So sex is a good or service, not a currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:54 PM
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You're not making any sense. The government isn't making you perform your work for other people, ie, it is not your labor being taking. Earnings and labor are not equivalent to each other. That's why this entire concept of sex workers doesn't equate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:52 PM
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Currency literally refers to money. "Sexual currency" is a metaphor for someone's attractiveness as a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:47 PM
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But it's not the same thing. The government doesn't force you to do the work you do. You are equating choosing to have whatever career path you want, if you want one at all, to being forced to do very specific work. It's a huge false equivalency even not counting the moral objection to the nature of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:09 PM
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It still isn't there. Money is actually currency, sexual currency is something invented by people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:05 PM
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But you just said you want porn of your coworkers, now you're changing that to the government decides who appears in the porno? Why would the government need to do this when countless people choose to make pornography and then you get to choose what to watch for free? You don't have to actually believe this, but the logic isn't even there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:45 PM
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Regardless, it's a public fund. They don't get to directly dictate to you how much to give, it's left up to your income level which you ultimately choose. You can look at porn the same way. There's an abundance of it available to you for free but you don't get to dictate who makes it and who consumes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:25 PM
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You also aren't required to hand your classmates and coworkers a check any more than they are required to give you one. There's no parallel between this and paying taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:08 PM
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I mean hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:08 PM
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Get welfare, spend on prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:07 PM
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Isn't there an abundance of that already available for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:56 PM
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And what's the equivalent to that which would help incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:11 PM
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violate people's bodily autonomy I assume you mean taxes in regards to helping poor people?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:01 PM
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Because you're saying a choice of drink says someone isn't well rounded and isn't sensual. That's just an odd level of judgement imo. The only one reading an insane level of knowledge is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:10 PM
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People who eat and drink things they don't enjoy to conform are not sensual...riiight. This is some American Psycho shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:49 PM
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www.google.com
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:05 AM
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Why didn't you ask for a link when you thought it was Trump lmao Google it for yourself, it's really not hard to find
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:12 AM
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Obama said it...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:03 AM
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He didn't say anything of the sort. The president of the United States actually talked about the fallacious wage gap on national television. That should tell you enough about what ideas actually matter. What TRP thinks doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:55 PM
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That's the thing, we don't care about service and administration jobs. There isn't much opposition to these jobs being female dominated. It's just women complaining they don't make money and jobs that pay well are bad environments and whatnot. Depends on what you mean by blue collar. There will be low level jobs for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:55 PM
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It's a zero sum game because this is most prominently applied to the workforce. It just so happens that male dominated fields pay more and get more admiration. That has obvious every day side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:46 PM
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Because it requires you to accept that other people are better and there's nothing anyone can do about it. That's not easy. People think that because there have been injustices in the past, that everyone must be the result of it. I hope the extreme claims made by people are merely attempts at pushing until the real line is found.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:38 PM
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y tho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:15 PM
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How is that any different from venting? What difference does the nature of the conversation make if it doesn't escalate beyond words?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:13 AM
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It's like gossiping in the sense that words said in private cannot hurt people. lol at "laughing about sexual assault"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:11 AM
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Is this really a double standard though? Maybe you're overlooking what many people have to offer and only focusing on what they desire. It's not wrong or unfair to want a tall partner just because you're short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:36 PM
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I'm not so sure about that. For the sake of argument, pretend it is different. Is it justified to be more skeptical of people from a war torn eastern area than those from a peaceful western area?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:51 PM
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Right, but not all potential immigrants are vetted to the same degree under the same process...and rightfully so because of conflicting cultural differences. We don't need to make sure Germans aren't Nazi's the same way we need to make sure Muslims are not "radical". This is backed up by data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:28 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 04:01 PM
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It doesn't matter. It is significantly more, that's why they're being vetted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:36 PM
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It's not irrelevant. It's exactly why they are being vetted in the first place. You don't need to vet someone who poses 0% risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:23 PM
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Ok I don't really understand your example so I'll come up with a more common one to illustrate my point. The comparison of X vs Y gives it context. Saying "5% of Muslims are terrorists" doesn't mean anything without context. Is 5% a lot? Is it more than other cultures? It has not significance on its own. This is how many people form their opinion on whether or not Muslim refugees should be let into the West. It's certainly not useless, because as you say, lives are at stake. Why let in people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:10 PM
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No information is useless, but people can be really bad at drawing conclusions and often have their mind made up before the data is collected. The train of thought is commonly used by bigots, yes. It's commonly used to drawn lines between people. It's commonly used to justify shitty behavior. I feel like you're talking about something specific but trying to be vague. This must be about racism, sexism, immigration, something. The context matters a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:46 PM
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In your 3-4 comments, you've said nothing of substance. All you've done is shown how butt hurt you are when people claim other races can be more or as attractive as white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:11 PM
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lmao how mad are you right now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:56 PM
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Lol what kind of rebuttal do you expect to your pointless comment? My rebuttal to your data is my life experience. Why does it seem like the same people who claim white superiority in dating are the same people spreading fear of the end to the white race?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:46 PM
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Wow such a well thought out opinion. Yeah let me stop trying to fuck white women because they rated people in my race lower on average on a dating app. SCIENCE! Fuck off with that shit. It means nothing in an individual's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 07:15 PM
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You can't make up for it in the eyes of people who care about height, but not everyone considers it a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:23 PM
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It's your physical size, I will tell you that with 100% certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:13 PM
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And it's stupid. Average looking minorities slay compared to their white counter parts. Ugly geeks on here are the people accepting it as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:06 PM
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I don't care what studies like the OK Cupid one say. People who aren't ignorant don't care either. Being a black woman or an Asian man in America is pretty much a death sentence. I am neither of those things, but the only people I see having trouble are actual ugly people. Being stereotyped certainly doesn't help that, but the former is the much, much more important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:03 PM
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I am American, but I live in a young, progressive-ish area.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:00 PM
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Being short definitely is a huge challenge, but being "non-white" is not. I hate how that idea is spread. It's racist nonsense. Being white (or at least American) where I'm from is a disadvantage if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:39 PM
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That's isn't bias you moron
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 05:29 PM
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You can't just state these things and provide nothing. Please show this mountain of evidence. Your opinion doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 04:38 PM
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It would apply to all fields. According to the study, the women found the female less desirable as a manager so it has nothing to do with the field being male dominated. There was no control in the study to actually deduce that bias was present against women in science. I think it has more to do with the role of authority vs. the field itself. Not wanting a female boss doesn't mean you think women can't be scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:56 PM
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Oh that study, the one everyone says proves gender bias in STEM when the job in question was a managerial position. Yeah I don't think people like female bosses, that hardly shows bias against women in science. That study is shit anyways. Why didn't they actually send applications to actual hiring managers? Why didn't they actually show the resume? I'm sure those "researchers" are enjoying some of that fine grant money right about now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 04:59 AM
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This same thought permeates much of American society. Women are scientists and mathematicians, women are represented in movies and TV as scientists and mathematicians, women make up a large percentage of science and math faculty, and finally, there is no shortage of the country telling women "you can't do whatever you want". So please, show me where this thought holds any weight in representing American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 02:34 AM
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Way to answer my question. I can't prove something doesn't exist. Do you have any evidence of what you claim does exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:18 AM
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You're comment implies there is gender bias against women going into STEM? No? I am saying that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 09:52 PM
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What does that have to do with anything we're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 09:35 PM
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ROFL dude, no. Can you read? This is as clear as I'm going to make it to you. I don't think "women can't do this" is relevant anymore, and hasn't been for decades. There's a huge difference between saying there's a lack of women in STEM vs engineering anyways. Calling accuracy pedantic is a huge cop out. Your point is still wrong. Nothing backs up your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 09:21 PM
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Read my first fucking comment to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:59 PM
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No it isn't, you're saying women and men are pushed/not pushed/denied from certain fields specifically. You're saying there's bias against women (your main argument). You also clearly said that there is a discrepancy in STEM, which there really isn't. If you read carefully, your comment could be summed up as "a whole lot of nothin". You bullshitted an answer based on buzz factoids when someone was asking a genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:04 PM
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Do you even know what you're talking about? There is not a large disparity, if one at all, in science and math. It's engineering that women don't go into. I would guess most people go into engineering for the career prospects. Let's be honest, women do not have the same societal pressure on them in regards to that. I don't think "women can't do this" is relevant anymore, and hasn't been for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 05:17 PM
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It's kind of a misleading statistic. It's mainly engineering that women avoid. In natural science and math, women make up close to 50% of graduates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 05:16 PM
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They do ask people, but that's just data. People usually don't have sociological mechanisms in mind when they answer personal questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 04:46 PM
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Because they probably won't switch majors based on a few programming classes. Why force them to? I think more people should choose to take those courses as electives, but not everyone is going to benefit from it to any practical significance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 04:27 PM
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Okay, why don't they choose them? That's a rhetorical question in this context. I don't know why, frankly I don't care. But they do care and they are interested in learning why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 04:24 PM
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Their aim is to study why women are not in these fields. Having them take 1 semester of physics and chemistry won't influence that. They probably do take a science and statistics by the way. They're usually required in all majors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 02:32 PM
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gr8 b8 m8
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 01:53 PM
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These are never things I claimed. You made that up completely. I'm clarifying that your opinion of comedy is irrelevant to what I find funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 08:20 PM
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it's just a bunch of cowardly e-bullies who get off on insulting other people Yeah pretty much And?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 06:58 PM
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Your statement is true, but it's not meant to be taken literally. It's just a joke bro. It's true that there are posts where the general reaction is "WTF people actually think like this", but it's more silent than outrage. Would you call /r/WTF outrage porn? Because that more accurately describes the blue pill subreddit. That doesn't negate the fact that it is mainly for mocking people. Mocking and outrage are also not mutually exclusive. My original statements stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:58 PM
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Holy shit I really can't tell if anyone responding to me is serious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:42 PM
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This has gone from funny to sad very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 05:16 PM
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You're doing it right now LOL How can you be serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:44 PM
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This should be posted on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:41 PM
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The people laughing don't understand humor? What an odd thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:41 PM
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Any tattoos for me. Unless she was part of some indigenous warrior tribe in South America. It's not really a red flag, I just don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:31 PM
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From your choices option 2 is the best. What do you need income for when you can get rich women? Assuming you can still get whatever job you're capable of, you just won't make any more than 40k even if you're a heart surgeon or something. But if it were choose between super rich and superhuman attractiveness with everything else in my life constant, I'll take the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:27 PM
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The tone is the only thing on TRP that indicates the post is serious. You don't have to reword something that essentially makes fun of itself just by existing. TRP posts already seem like satire out of context. Every post reads like that "What the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch?" meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:18 PM
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PUAhate wasn't to making fun of pick up artists and feel euphoric. PUAhate believed that pick up didn't work because women were only interested in alphas (fueled by much disdain). It shares that with TRP. If everyone from PUAhate went to TRP, you wouldn't notice. Blue Pill (the subreddit) is about mocking the women haters, incels in denial, meglomaniacs, etc found on trp and their various biotruths. The only thing it shares with PUAhate is the belief that pick up is stupid, but it's for complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 04:11 PM
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They probably have a video like that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 03:29 PM
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This like asking where you can find better information on reddit, the front page or /r/circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 09:07 PM
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"I'm not ashamed to be black" isn't as catchy. But I think your point is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 12:50 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 12:12 AM
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Good for the people who reap the benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 11:01 PM
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this is not the conclusion these particular studies came to Of course that's the conclusion they reached, it's an article from the Journal of Evo Psych. In any case, I came to my conclusions before I had even heard of any such studies on the matter No surprise there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 09:07 PM
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Certainly, the development of these qualities can be interesting and enjoyable in their own right, but often that first impetus that compels a man to pick up that musical instrument, work or study hard, is a desire to achieve success so that they can attract women and retain their attention I don't agree with this at all. The study regarding performance declining with marriage shows that married men allocate their efforts differently than when they were unmarried. I don't see the connection betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 07:20 PM
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Here's an example highlighting my point. Make note of the author, you might know him. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4j845o/what_defines_an_alpha_vs_what_defines_a_high_beta/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 07:01 PM
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rofl "commonly accepted" is a bit of a reach. The terms aren't even close to unanimously defined by their own proponents, let alone different groups. And you have the audacity to accuse me being unable to have a productive discussion? You, the one insisting on using meaningless jargon? ROFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 06:24 PM
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This might be coherent if you used real words. Using beta and alpha does not mean anything to people outside your bubble. Societies have primarily flourished due to fear mongering and violent force, literally nothing to with women. Men who make significant contributions to society are not doing so because they have a family or a woman in mind. They do so because it's what people with talent do. Now that every woman has her eyes unwaiveringly set on an alpha this means that betas have no reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 03:53 PM
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How would I know
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 12:58 PM
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It being common among people doesn't make it not personal. Personal just means it's a choice. The main point of all this is, communication is more vital to anything involving multiple people than a leader. The most important function of a leader is communication anyways. The reason for a leader is a group needs to move in unison to reach a goal that might go against their personal opinions and wants. That doesn't apply to a relationship because the goal of the relationship is entirely dependent …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 07:49 PM
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That's not it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 07:36 PM
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TheChemist158: Planning and communication is vital to any joint endeavor. It's not feminization and it's not bad. Plugawy_Nedznik: No, a strong leader with a clear vision is vital to any "joint" endeavor. Find better. And I am talking about why most people get into relationships. Of course there will be exceptions. The fact is relationships do not need to have a goal. Most people wear clothes, that doesn't make wearing clothes vital to being human. 9 out of 10 women who can have children have ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:58 PM
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Well we were talking about requirements. The function of a relationship is to not be alone. That's really it. Anything beyond that is you adding in your personal ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:21 PM
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Probably the same. I don't think the internet has really changed the pool of potential partners. People used to go out more and talk more. How many strangers do you talk to when you go to the beach or some other place where many people within a 50 mile radius are? Probably not many. Instead of going on Tinder, people would just go where people would be. There aren't many outlets like that anymore, especially with this "leave me alone" attitude becoming normal in day to day tasks like riding the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 05:11 PM
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None of which are requirements for the relationship to exist or remain healthy. Furthermore, I don't see how a leader is preferable to communication in any of your examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 04:44 PM
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The main difference between a relationship and your examples is that relationships don't have a goal. So no, a leader is not required at all. Communication is also imperative in literally all of your examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 03:57 PM
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It didn't come from TRP so doesn't that automatically make it BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 05:41 PM
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I don't think you should judge people's behavior based on how attractive you find them, especially if you consider them inversely proportional. That sounds like a horrible way to view people. But you have to be realistic with yourself. If people consider you a 5 and you land yourself a 10, ask yourself what's happening. A lot of "abuse" is just people doing shit they know they'll get away with because they know you need them more than the need you. "Weak" people bring out the worst in people. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 03:39 PM
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Because it doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:35 PM
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I honestly wouldn't even care about the personal trainer thing that much. I'm just saying, no one ever needs to see a particular personal trainer if one at all. I can understand being against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 04:02 PM
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It's not about her cheating, it's about him touching her. Even for valid training purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:37 PM
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lol I forgot about mansplaining
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 11:15 PM
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lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:51 PM
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I'm claiming that the system is not against women. Which is isn't - that's just a fact. Can you provide an example of something against women, let alone the average woman? Individual discrimination is not the system. Therefore not systematic. Systemic means an issue with the system itself, which there are better arguments for. But you chose systematic, so let's at least have you realize it's not systematic before moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:48 PM
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Systemic and systematic are two completely different words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:23 PM
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No idea
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:57 PM
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Please show me a company that is 100% men Please show me a person in power advocating the oppression of women. Please show me a policy which prevents women from attaining a common right. I'm really curious why you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:51 PM
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That's correct. There are laws written which make discrimination illegal. The ability for individuals to discriminate is called conscious thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:13 PM
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Both. This place is strange. Anyways, I thought you said that there were chemical differences in the brains of depressed people, that would be physiological. Depressed people also have more negative/ambivalent thoughts, that's psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 07:06 PM
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Yes, by individuals. That's not systematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:57 PM
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Welcome to ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:19 PM
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Interesting. Not being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:18 PM
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Was? Sure. Is? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:12 PM
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Negative thoughts + lethargy. I'm not giving you a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:11 PM
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I'm not saying all Trans people would be fine if society accepted them, but more would. Therefore Trans on its own is not a mental illness. Some do suffer from dysmorphia probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:05 PM
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It's physiological and psychological
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:05 PM
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The discrimination against women is not systematic. If anything, the system favors women. It's on an individual scale that women are discriminated against. That's the difference between every example you gave and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 05:29 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:10 PM
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Okay, but do you see my point? In order for the concept feminism to apply, there must be inequality. If there is no inequality, there is no feminism. It's not just the name, it's the entire ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:57 PM
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If you're saying that women are not disadvantaged, the concept of feminism can't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:44 PM
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I mean, under this mentality, do you also believe that women are not systematically disadvantaged/discriminated against? How else would equality arise in employment and education if women are equally able, equally treated, but also discriminated against? One of those things has to be not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:28 PM
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Random as fuck topic, but you're right when it comes to pregnancy. It's a controllable risk. If you're lucky about anything, it's that none of them just did it anyway or gave you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:19 PM
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So basically, this is feminism simply because the rules apply to both men and women, even though they have little to nothing to do with gender dynamics? Wouldn't this mentality lead to even more disparity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:15 PM
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How is this feminism? Not rhetorical, genuinely curious how this is any different than "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 02:08 PM
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Calm down. We aren't talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:13 AM
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Calm down. We weren't talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 12:33 AM
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The flaw is the list of misconceptions regarding transgendered people. I would say the reasons people are against it are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 06:00 PM
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And this contradicts what I said how? When people accept transgendered people, it won't be a mental illness. The same does not apply to people who have or will potentially cause harm to someone. We don't shape society for the minority, we shape it for the majority and to avoid chaos The minority becomes the majority. People are more tolerant towards people of color, people are more tolerant towards women working, people are more tolerant towards gay people, just like one day people will commonly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:33 PM
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Maybe if you're ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 04:26 PM
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Being transgender doesn't make you dysfunctional. This one is more a flaw in society than in the individual. You calling it pathological is what makes it so. Same way being gay could be considered pathological in some places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 02:03 PM
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And? That doesn't make it a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 02:03 PM
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If you sleep around and don't expect to get herpes, that's enough to know you aren't educated well on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 02:23 PM
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Buzzwords: Posts that state that X position is “degenerate” or that reference “cuck” are impermissible. We are not /r/The_Donald. Further “feefees” or “triggered” are not appropriate. Definitely the best rule
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 02:09 PM
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I'm thinking within the Meyer's Briggs model. I don't think we're using the terms in the same context. The way I'm using it is extroverted people seek approval and social standing, introverted people seek a self goal. I don't think the lack of need for the approval of others translates to a lack of confidence at all. If anything, seeking the approval of others shows a lack of confidence in one's abilities. I don't disagree with extroverted people getting laid more easily, but that's like saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:29 AM
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Confidence is an extroverted feature I disagree. I would call it an introverted feature. Introversion is concern with oneself, confidence is a belief in ones ability. Maybe I'm confusing introvert with something, but I don't think it necessarily means you lack social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 11:51 PM
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Post the science if that's what you're arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 12:44 PM
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Why do you even bother visiting this thread? If all you care about is flair, then you should already know what every answer you'll accept will be. She didn't do anything hypocritical, you assigned an opinion to her based on her flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 11:29 PM
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Most people laugh at people who have to resort to seeing prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 11:27 PM
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I can't answer that question since I never have been or will be female, but it doesn't suck. Don't blame your sex on your misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 10:52 PM
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As everyone knows, the 4-5 inch dildo market is booming
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 10:13 PM
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I swear people here can't read. That shit is at +6
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 10:01 PM
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I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 09:55 PM
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Implying they even bought it themselves, amirite? But seriously, that's not treating someone like shit. It's not nice, but fuck it, some people never grow out of 8th grade. It's not "most women". No one denies shitty people exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 08:59 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:26 PM
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No, it really doesn't. It sums up the stereotypical autistic RP pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:22 PM
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The Jews were forcibly imprisoned and killed. They had no choice. A woman can simply say no thanks and walk away from a RP man. This says otherwise. So does your example of an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:05 PM
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I didn't realize relationship advisors were an ideology. I never presented a stance on its morality. That wasn't the point of the analogy, the one I still don't think you understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 02:01 PM
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It's like...very basic actually. I don't even think there is an ideology that doesn't have these parts. Can you name one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 01:41 PM
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Man you are missing everything tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 01:11 PM
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It's a great analogy. It applies to this thread. Every point made by the OP is common to many ideologies, if not nearly all. You can't use these common positive traits to counter the parts which are often criticized. This is constantly done by people in this subreddit, as was done by the OP, as was done by the person the analogy was addressed to. What are you not understanding here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 01:09 PM
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No shit, that's the point of the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:19 AM
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You don't understand the analogy. Killing jews is irrelevant to the fact that the country was better off. The point is, you can create jobs without committing genocide. The same way you can get women without being a shitbag. The good parts of the red pill and the parts that people criticize are not in the same category. I.e. Hitler is not proof that genocide is good, just like your increase of success wth women is not proof that "the red pill" works well or is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:14 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:26 PM
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I don't know where you're going with this. There are people that most people would consider attractive. And there are people that most people would consider unattractive. There are people who fall right in the middle of those extremes. That would be the median. That guy is a 5. Just by appearance, if you were to just look at a plain old picture of him. No other factors considered. Now, the question is, why is that guy having trouble getting the female equivalent? It doesn't mean he's not a 5, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 06:46 PM
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5 just represents average, whatever average means. The person rating themselves is doing the rating in this case. Not ugly, not really anything special either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:11 PM
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They mean they look like a 5. Same way I can't walk into a restaurant with $20, take a shit on the table, and get served. It doesn't mean I don't have enough money to eat there. The other thing is, a 5/10 woman doesn't equal a 5/10 man. That's like saying 1 USD = 1 CAD. It's not that people aren't overstating their worth, they're just not normalizing between gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:04 PM
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*Defense mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 07:45 PM
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I can't have a "normal conversation" through text with someone who can't read. I've already made arguments against what you're saying, you just didn't understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:44 AM
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Good god. The level of reading comprehension here is so low sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:29 AM
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I don't really understand where you're going. It's an ignorant opinion that I have. That's the point of this thread. I don't have answers for you. It's just gross. Then you changed my words. I'm tired of typing the phrase "I never said that" on this subreddit. I mean sure, maybe if you're weak as shit and in a special case you might need to lift free weights, but I don't see what sport or something more active can't do to build sufficient muscle. This is really about free weight lifting. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:26 AM
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From what I've seen first hand, it's pretty common. I honestly would've assumed it about instagram models intuitively, what really surprised me was the amount of 18-25 year old chicks with legit sugar daddys. It's not obvious whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:27 PM
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This applies to America. Men and women are equal. Not in every respect, but they both have an equal opportunity of quality of life. I don't think abortion is a "woman's issue", I don't care if you get paid less for doing the same job, I don't care if men sexualize you, I don't care if someone told you that you couldn't be a scientist when you were 8. If there are women who fulfill there goals, without bitching and moaning about how they're mistreated and discriminated against, I fail to see how …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:21 PM
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Please go away
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:26 AM
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Just don't see the point. You aren't improving your health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:29 PM
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I know enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:31 PM
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Could be. Ever heard anyone say correlation isn't cause? The universe is much more complex than you'll ever comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:02 PM
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Guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:01 PM
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Pretty much yeah, unless they take roids
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:00 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:58 AM
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They're not awesome at it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:58 AM
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"My boyfriend appears to be an exception to this rule." No, it's not. We don't think the rule exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:25 AM
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Lol why are you telling me what I have an issue with? No. It's the fact that she lifts seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:23 AM
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Okay, that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:25 AM
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I don't even know what the fuck you're saying here. Stop responding to all of my comments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:19 AM
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Okay, keep thinking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:16 AM
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Well I can't have a problem with something I'm completely unaware of now can I? It's pretty specific to weightlifting. I don't care if people brag or act superior, I do care when they're not even good at the thing they're so proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:13 AM
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Yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:12 AM
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I thought we were being judgmental
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:09 AM
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Yeah, you don't get the phrase. Your claim is nonsense. "Women only date tall men" "My boyfriend is not tall" "See, it's a rule because you made an exception" That's what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:04 AM
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I think she doesn't know how tall the people she finds attractive are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 01:58 AM
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The second part of Cicero's phrase, "in casibus non exceptis" or "in cases not excepted," is almost always missing from modern uses of the statement that "the exception proves the rule," which may contribute to frequent confusion and misuse of the phrase. Your interpretation of the phrase is literally the same as the one ranked "least correct". Please do not think that means it is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 12:10 AM
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A simple google search for "do women like taller men" returns hundreds of studies that show a majority of women, over 50%, prefer a man at least taller than them. Never said they didn't. I said they don't like them because they are tall. Just as you said they don't like shorter men because they are short. Women also say they prefer white men, yet there are interracial couples everywhere. Just as men who are average height are in relationships. These aren't small minorities, it's significant enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:52 PM
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How is that superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:04 PM
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I don't if it's really superficial, but female weightlifters. The ones who act like I should be impressed they can squat what a 15 year old boy can. I mean good for you, but you're still weaker than most people over 12. I don't have many "nopes" now that I think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:59 PM
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The problem with RP thinking is you assume people discretize physical traits. They don't. Women also aren't liking men because they are tall. It doesn't mean you are fucked because you aren't tall. It doesn't mean you're fucked if you're fat. There's no issue in the way "non RP" thinks because it's usually RP drawing false dichotomies. You can't make up rules that people fundamentally agree with, then say someone is flawed for proving your own belief wrong. The fundamental belief by non RP peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:49 PM
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That's isn't really ghosting then. Ghosting is when people leave things off with you as if they're coming back, then they never do. I would consider that indecent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:19 PM
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What does any of this have to do with looks? Isn't that the most important consideration? even if generalities can be formed That's the thing though. They can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 04:38 PM
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Not what I was saying, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 03:59 PM
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Nah I don't buy that shit. Going to the gym and being a prick don't give you status or make you a leader, yet that's the most commonly given advice for being alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 03:59 PM
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I'm confused by how these people's notion of communism boils down to owing people something, but conveniently after you've accomplished something easy for women. Do women owe men sex under this ideology? Does rape not exist because sex is so casual? Once the timeless raunchiness of Dion and the Belmonts’ “The Wanderer” had failed me Fucking hipsters
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 02:35 AM
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Just based off the word "anxiety", I'd guess that a reason isn't necessary. If you have a reason to not trust someone, it isn't anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 02:48 PM
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How's Venus this time of year?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:38 PM
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And that it's in the long term interest of humans to preserve their health? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 01:22 PM
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But if you drive a car and someone jumps in front of it and kills themselves, it's not homicide or your fault. Just because someone isn't happy doesn't mean anyone did anything wrong to them. Of course all rape is rape, but that's because of OP's terrible phrasing. This wasn't rape in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:43 PM
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So explain this universal fact of life to me. What is the basis of life that everyone should live by?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:10 PM
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And this is why you still don't get it. Logic is based on anything. There are no rules for a basis of logic. "All cats are fish, therefore all cats have gills". The basis is false and the statement is incorrect, but it is logical conclusion given the basis. That's what logic is. That's all I want you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:11 PM
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Manslaughter isn't murder though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:07 PM
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Yet it seems like a valid question according to some people's view on what constitutes consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:01 PM
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I'm not talking bullshit, you just aren't grasping what I'm saying. Somehow you interpretted: this Because the long term consequences will cause more harm than the short term pleasure is worth (your opinion) to mean this: Yeah diabetes or stimulant psychosis are just my opinions. You aren't logical at all based on this thread. It's your opinion that the risk outweighs the reward. I agree with you because I value my health, but not everyone does. I don't understand what you don't get about this. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:54 AM
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That's what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:00 AM
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Yeah you're not getting it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:59 AM
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Yes. I mean, what exactly is the issue? You're a fucking idiot if you bank on people not having a problem with that though. It doesn't make it not rape, but it doesn't make it a cause for alarm. If someone left a gold bar in your living room, would you press charges for breaking and entering? They committed the crime, but the result of it defeats the purpose of why we consider the consider the crime wrong in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 03:45 AM
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Because the long term consequences will cause more harm than the short term pleasure is worth This is an opinion, not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:44 PM
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It has "especially to deserve praise or reward", the definition doesn't depend on it. Really it just means the quality of being good or worthy. They aren't being rewarded either. People finding you attractive isn't a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 11:11 AM
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You are going in a circle. You aren't pointing out how that contradicts logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 11:05 AM
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Your question can't be answered, it presents a logical dilemma. Basically, you're asking me if attractive people should be considered attractive. Or are you asking me if anyone deserves to be born with different traits? In that case, no one deserves anything out of our control, in which the concept of equality doesn't apply. For what we can control dating is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 02:35 AM
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Merit - the quality of being particularly good or worthy, esp. so as to deserve praise or reward Where does the concept of earning come in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 02:14 AM
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It's equality in the sense that everyone has the same rights. No one said it's equal in every regard. It's not semantics, you just don't seem to get it. Merit based systems are equal as long as irrelevant things aren't being considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 02:10 AM
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Equality doesn't mean everyone is treated equal in all regards. The equality in the dating market means that you have the right to ask someone out or ignore them, and they have the right to accept or reject you. Everyone has those rights. People who are more qualified than you are going to get more attention, just as when applying for a job. That doesn't make it not equal given the circumstances. So it's true people aren't equal in all regards, that doesn't mean dating itself isn't equal. Some b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 01:15 AM
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If McDonald's make me happy, and I want to be happy, then I will eat McDonald's. Apparently to you anything that makes you happy is a logical action. If you want to be happy, yes. Do you see the difference yet? Having children is only illogical if you don't want children or if you want your children to attend private schools and go on nice vacations, but you have no money. There are plenty of examples where it's illogical for an individual to have a child. However, none of that is being presente…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:47 PM
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That's not my argument. You continue to misread. I've never made that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:33 PM
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So you're not logical because you smoke weed? You should really watch a few college lectures from a logic course. I can't continue to respond to the exact same argument. My answer won't change. You have what you need from me laid out in front you + the abundance of information on the internet to realize you're understanding of logic is weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:46 AM
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Kevin James is a fuckin beast don't talk about him like that But to your point, you can't say what makes a person so attractive they are advantaged. You can't descretize something as complex as a person's attractiveness in words. It's also easy to sit at a computer, look at a picture, and say how you'd act towards them - see Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:40 PM
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Alright I'll explain one more time If I want to feel good, and eating at McDonald's makes me feel good, then I will eat at McDonald's. That is logical. You're assuming that everyone thinks like this. If I want to be very healthy, eating at McDonald's is unhealthy, therefore I will eat at McDonald's. That is not logical. So can we move on from logic being relevant to deciding whether or not anyone should have kids? Now to address your point about people deciding to have kids based on emotion. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 02:27 PM
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No he just doesn't know what he's talking about. There's literally, literally never a coherent answer to this question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:07 AM
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This is a good example of an emotional decision that is also logical. You are driven by emotion to want to eat, but the decision to eat is logical (up to a point) because you need it to survive. Another example of you not knowing what logical or emotion mean. You are still arguing about what is a good or bad idea for someone who thinks like you. That's like saying there is no point understanding calorie intake, it's irrelevant to my personal decisions. I will eat at McDonald's daily anyway. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 01:14 AM
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Logic and emotion are not opposites. You can make a decision purely on emotion that is also logical. However, what we are talking about isn't emotion, it is biological urge. That isn't an emotion. Is eating a sandwich because you are hungry illogical? Of course not. Let's make it more relevant to your claims. Is eating a bacon sandwich every day when you're hungry illogical even though there is data suggesting it's bad for your health? Again, no. Studies are irrelevant to personal decisions. Jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 11:06 PM
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I'm going to stop arguing with your claims because it's off topic and I don't care. So stop making new claims every time you talk. All we're talking about is whether or not it's "logical" for a person under any circumstance to have a child - something you think is illogical. Please correct anything wrong with my understanding of your stance if need be. But it feels good therefore it's the most logical option. That was exactly your argument. What I said was it is logical to do something you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:20 PM
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If the divorce rate is 40% and multiple studies confirm that having kids puts strain on your marriage it is a logical decision for everyone, not just me. Outside of a quantum physics context, it's not a random event. You can't predict whether or not kids will strain your marriage because of a study on people that aren't you. Anyways, 40% would make it logical to have kids if you want them since it's always logical to go with the higher probability. Please continue to educate me on a word you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:13 PM
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You made a logical argument for why you'd rather not risk having children, you didn't make a logical argument for why it's illogical for anyone to have children. Not everyone is as poor and miserable as you. That's your entire argument, money and happiness. Not everyone cares about money, not everyone's life falls apart in or after a marriage with kids. My argument is "you or anyone else's shitty life doesn't tell me how to live mine" as well as "you don't know what logical means" Also lol at no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:51 PM
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I didn't ask you why you don't want kids, I asked how this has anything to do with logic. You are using "self interested" as if it goes hand in hand with "logical". First of all, everything we do is based on how we feel, that doesn't coincide with an absence of logic. If something makes you feel good and you want to feel good, then it is logical for you to do it. I mean, hell, your argument relies on that principle. Most importantly though, there's no fundamental answer to what we should do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:40 PM
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How about taking a step down off that horse and explaining to us simple folk which axiom of logic is being broken by having children. Your answer below gives an opinion that isn't logical universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:36 PM
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Every red piller's dream husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:48 PM
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It's only a bad choice if you can't take care of the child. Having one isn't about the parents, all arguments for or against it from the parents point of view are irrelevant. If all you're really asking is social benefits, you got everything, but you seriously undermine the "fulfills societal norm of reproducing". People have much more respect for you in general and you have more common ground with other adults. Not having a kid when you're 40 (as a guy) is almost like being a virgin when you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:35 PM
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You don't see a single term on there that's used daily by someone red?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 01:30 PM
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People who make baseless claims end up exit underscore sandman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:54 PM
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Sounds more like software is boring and surfing isn't. Nothing about me between my last profile picture and the surfer one changed significantly. Were you doing something cool in your old one? Doubt it. How do you manage to convolute something so obvious? I work as a software engineer Oh, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 03:37 AM
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Most people look the same. People aren't falling in love with hundreds of people at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 03:26 AM
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Yet crazy fat poor people are still loved. How do you think people differentiate between people? Most people might care about looks, but they don't obsess about them. Money and status are rare and if anything make it even harder to find someone who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 10:05 PM
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What reason could there be for this to even be possible? Who wouldn't date someone they're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 01:02 AM
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They don't seem to understand the technology doesn't apply to them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 07:22 PM
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Provide a real example of insecurity being used as incorrectly as in your post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:36 AM
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The probability is either 1 or 0 if you're talking about a person with self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:39 PM
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If only needs to be supported by a sequential then statement
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 02:07 PM
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My issue is with people arguing entirely based on emotion and the flawed perception that comes along with it. There's no ad hominem fallacy, just people calling you out for being emotional. Bias people can't debate this topic. If you have a preference based purely on emotion, you can't also have a logical stance. That itself is illogical. What are you not understanding here? It's always been about perception. What else would "preference" have to do with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:00 PM
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No limit, I don't see the point. But to state the obvious, she's not my girlfriend until it happens. If she was a virgin/had many sexual partners and I knew that, I probably wouldn't want her to be my girlfriend in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:31 PM
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Taking going clubbing for example. RPers will rattle off reason after reason for why this is a red flag with zero substantiated evidence. Really, they are insecure. That's the reason they don't like it. That's not a logical stance whatsoever.- Just an example I've seen, not arguing the position itself. But you have no reason debating if this is you. It's not an attack on someone's character, it's an attack on someone's perception, which absolutely matters when the debate is about how we perceive…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:24 PM
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No, you just did. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:12 PM
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Right, and this study suggests that the chad's frame of mind is the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:55 PM
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Because you can't debate something you're insecure about, your opinion towards the activity in question is going to be unreasonably biased. Clubbing for example, you are being insecure. A person with anorexia shouldn't be debating what a healthy weight is. Calling it a preference doesn't validate what you have to say or make it not an insecure bias. It's fine to have the opinion, but you can't debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:54 PM
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What about a chad who doesn't have the money to buy expensive dinners for himself all the time? This study suggests he would do what you say the beta would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:42 PM
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This makes a lot more sense to me. I guess now we have to see the long term impact of it before we call it progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:54 AM
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While sacrificing the entertainment of watching the conductor...? Not sure how well people will respond to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:28 AM
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Hm, maybe it's a state thing then. Everything is bias though. Especially in arts and entertainment. You can't tell people what to enjoy. I agree though, it would be pretty nice if bias didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:48 AM
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It's my understanding those things are provided for people that need them. I still don't see how that would make things equal though. Parents are the biggest influence, and we know we can't force people to be good at parenting. And if it's not this excuse, it'll be something else. But this has really taken my interest: they did blind auditions and put carpet down. therefore when they had auditions they didn't know who was auditioning...they just heard the music. I understand the study was blind,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:26 AM
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I don't really see where you're going with the conductor bit. Especially because I don't know what metric you would use to grade a conductor. Isn't it essentially who people want to see? Maybe people are staring at her ass the whole time and missing the performance so they don't like her, I don't know. I don't see providing basic necessities (beyond the welfare we already provide) making anything more equal. You didn't suggest removing privileges, but how else would you make things equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:48 AM
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Would any of that solve anything? Should we ban face to face interviews and private tutors?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:32 AM
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There's this other crazy proposition called a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:40 AM
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Meaningless quote. You can have all the sex you want and not be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:38 AM
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Because women don't really seem to care how many people you've been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:56 PM
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I get what you're saying now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:52 PM
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So doing what any normal person would do is considered a PUA tactic? That's kind lm what I'm hung up on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 03:39 PM
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But that's not how it's described on TRP. You didn't actually break through any resistance there. TRP talks about a situation where she isn't going to reinitiate, where the LMR is a test. I mean, what exactly is the big secret to "breaking" this resistance if all you did was listen to it? Isn't that the issue guys who read TRP have?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:17 PM
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What exactly does that mean? That doesn't make sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:33 AM
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I mean I can only speak for myself. I think many other people would rather be with someone they don't like than no one while they wait for Mr or Ms Right to come along. Not my style, but I see why people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:33 AM
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Same percentage. The reason for a difference is due to outside influence, like drugs or social pressure. "Marriage material" looks just means you'd be proud to have them out in public or meet your friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:42 PM
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You said Take control from them Have you changed your mind about this? Maybe you should explain further. This why the entire notion makes no sense to me. How do you change policies and cultural norms without appealing to the majority or those in power? The only way I can think of is war. So feminists are either trying to appeal to men to change their minds about the way things are done or they are waging a war on men and forcing change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:46 PM
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There was context for it. 1 by itself is not a ratio technically, but it represents a ratio in this context. That was made clear. Also, An exponent is the 2 , that's why you can't call 4 an exponent without context. "In this expression, '2x', x is an exponent" - Accurate, context given. "x is an exponent" - not accurate, no context. So how about you learn to STEM and communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:52 AM
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What I'm asking is what facet of society have women "taken"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 08:34 PM
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Women are going to take shit though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:31 PM
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Copy and paste EDIT: I thought you were someone else. To answer your comment, yes it can be a unitless ratio. "The ratio between men and women in this room is 1." That is an accurate sentence. I double checked Wikipedia and it says ratios can be expressed as quotients. So, yeah, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:23 PM
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It can be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 03:44 PM
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But the system is controlled by men, don't you need their approval to change it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 03:13 PM
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I prefer implicit affirmation. If something is wrong then you say something. I fail to see where verbal consent is required in the mind of an adult who can take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 11:44 AM
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No. The goal is to bring up a topic you are insecure about. They aren't saying there is anything wrong with being fat or bald. They know you think there's something wrong with being fat and know you don't want to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:03 PM
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I never said it wasn't an insult. The fuck are you on about. It's not an insult to entire groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:51 PM
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I don't know what you're saying. A kid probably shouldnt be rude to his teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:45 PM
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I don't see how what I said could be interpreted to mean anything other than what I intended. I understand what you think I said without you having to explain it, yet for some reason you don't understand what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:10 PM
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Alright then I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you genuinely put no thought into comprehending what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 11:59 AM
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Depends on the woman. Nice attempt to spin what I said by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 11:34 AM
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Keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 03:37 AM
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Feminism is absolutely about male approval, how can you logically argue otherwise? At least that's what the "smart" feminists want. The ones who want to wage war on men aren't getting anywhere any time soon. Women want to be treated as equals, no? Doesn't that require the approval of men if the world is male dominate and men hold power?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 02:39 AM
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you think you are going to look like george clooney, you will probably be some fat bald dude, with a shitty job in IT Just using your example, this isn't a shot at bald people, fat people, or IT workers. This is a shot at TRP because this is what they don't want to be. If anything, TRP is the group insulting these groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:48 AM
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I definitely dislike more women than men. I meet more who don't know their place. Probably the worst quality in a person if you ask me. But I don't dislike anyone I've never interacted with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:42 AM
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That's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:25 PM
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So try it out. Go directly against something your wife says she wants and see how it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 04:24 PM
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Yes, because they aren't lying. I understand the general principle of taking people's actions over their word to hold more weight, but women aren't lying when they say they want something and then won't date/sleep with you. The only piece of information they leave out is the importance of appearance and money. I've seen many stories about wives who claim they want a sensitive man who shares equally in the chores and listens to her. Yet the husband of this woman is in a sexless marriage. When he …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:58 PM
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Not a bad plan because it gives you a good foundation if law school doesn't work out without being too rigorous. But if you're seriously set on law school you'd be better off majoring in economics or philosophy imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 07:26 PM
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General advice since you've been told enough times that your choice of major and career isn't alpha or beta. There are plenty of "normal people" in engineering. Stoners, athletes, party boys/girls, etc. Plus, you can be friends with plenty of people outside your major. Also, you can afford to party a few nights a week. You might have to manage and plan your time better, but anyone complaining about being "so busy" is bullshitting or not planning well enough. Semi related college advice: If you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 04:45 PM
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Not putting her on a pedestal is bringing her down a peg. If she's constantly being put above everyone else, then treating her like she's just a person is lower than what she's used to. It's not that uncommon for women to feel bad about themselves for being treated like a person for a change rather than god's gift to the Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 08:47 PM
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I'm not following what you're trying to say at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 02:31 AM
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But how often do you find yourself getting "creeped out" or hating creeps? Yes, we are talking about socially awkward dudes. Creep (literally) doesn't even make sense the way women use it. A key feature of a creep is that it's hidden - like I consider TRP followers creeps. So to answer the OP, women do not have a spidey sense. You don't know someone is a creep because they are socially awkward around you. Like I said, many people are only socially awkward around people they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:41 AM
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If we use 16 different labels it's too complicated Funny considering the entire manosphere can't coherently define their 2 favorite words. You did say the alpha beta thing is bullshit so this isn't directed at you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:47 PM
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Sluts are shamed because we take pride in what we do. You can't be proud of sleeping with someone everyone's slept with. Creeps are shamed because they make you feel bad for them and no one likes that. Same reason homeless people are shamed for pan handling. People blame them for making they themselves feel bad. I don't think the two things are related whatsoever other than general "ego damage".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:13 PM
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A lot of people use Reddit, but definitely not TRP/TBP, let alone PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 09:17 PM
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Anger is useless and waste of time and energy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 11:40 PM
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Common courtesy is worth a lot. Respect isn't limited to any degree, I just think everyone deserves respect until they show that they don't. Just like you can also respect someone's work, the way you're using it. Both are valid. But to call BP "delusional and idealistic" for defining respect in a more general way is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:17 PM
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How is this practical at all? Where do you draw the line between rape according to a school and rape according to the law? Because kids have been expelled for having sex while drunk. The girl wasn't expelled though - obviously. What evidence are courts throwing out that schools are considering?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 10:50 PM
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Your definition of respect essentially requires a public opinion of greatness. Unless you're placed higher than everyone, you aren't really respected. The "common courtesy" answer implies that no one is above anyone else in everyday, common situations - holding doors for people, leaving notes when you hit someones car, etc. I would call your answer the definition of idealism - setting a near impossible standard for yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 08:17 PM
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And they call Blue Pill delusional and idealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:52 PM
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The phrase is "men age like wine, women age like milk". It doesn't really mean all men look better the older they get, but the peak age range for men is much bigger (25-45). It's more like 18-25 for women. Plus, 50 is pushing it, it's more like 40. If you were to send those 4 into a lounge where no one knew who they were, 40 year old Pit and Clooney would clean up, Helmsworth would do well, Bieber wouldn't even be let in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 01:48 AM
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I've heard women call someone a douche, then sleep with them. I've heard women say "I wouldn't date a douche" then date someone I thought was a douche. But I've never heard a woman say both without changing their original stance. There's also the overarching issue of trying to compartmentalize traits and describe what's attractive on paper. You can't do it. Sometimes it only takes one person to make you believe you're super into tall, fit girls when you might only find a handful attractive. I fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 05:11 PM
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You should clarify as to whether the method of finding out something is true is within the context of behavior or just in general. There's a difference between someone claiming women are incapable of love and claiming jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:59 PM
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That's what all sexual attraction is based on though no matter what your school of thought is. This is an example of understanding implicit interaction and how often TRP misreadings lead to tirades and baseless theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 05:42 PM
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I saw succeed at committing suicide but not routinely succeeds at suicide. What should I score that as?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 06:56 PM
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Why though? Why does any of what you say matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 05:44 PM
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That's what happens when you don't use the correct words. No one knows what you're saying for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 11:00 PM
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The key factor is having a social circle and simply learning how to socialize. Sports are a good way to do that, but so is any activity that is done with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:38 PM
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Dude just look at bls where you were just looking: http://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm 93k for EEs, 66k for nurses. Not even close. a lot of money can be made in engineering, but only at the upper echelons, which most people do not reach Define a lot of money. Because 100k is a lot to me and is very common and pretty much everyone reaches it by 10 years. And that's a long time to reach 100k. Entry level salaries for engineering have increa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:34 AM
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A concept can't be applied without considering the moral implications unless you're a literal psychopath
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:30 AM
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Lol yeah no wonder, you don't understand these titles. Engineer I is an entry level engineer, even entry level engineers can be Engineer II. So comparing Engineer I salaries to nationwide RN salaries really only drives my point further. But more obviously, why aren't you just going by the exact same page for engineers that you used for nurses? Is it because and MechE and EE's salaries are both ~150% that of a nurses when comparing the same data? I'd call that a pretty significant difference and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:09 AM
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Still, no. Where are you getting this information? Are you comparing nurses in California to Civil Engineers in North Carolina? I honestly don't see how anyone could believe what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:36 AM
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Established engineers, especially those with advanced degrees, can make well into the hundreds of thousands. There's really no sentence regarding salary where you can interchange engineer and nurse. Developers are not engineers btw Plus I don't know where you're getting your figures, but this disagrees with you and so does my personal experience (which lines up pretty much exactly with the figures there).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:15 AM
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Engineers make a nurse's median salary at entry level typically.. The potential is also much, much different. The two careers are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:32 AM
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I think it is. If you're at a bar and a man buys you a drink just because he looked at you, you know what's happening. If you don't, you shouldn't be allowed to hang around adults unsupervised. The same way women expect men to understand when they're being creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:33 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about, life becomes way more fair after going off on your own. You can't do shit living under someone else's roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:52 PM
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Why is it imporant that an employeer not discriminate against employees due to "fairness"? It makes it even more difficult for people to succeed despite questionable morals. In large groups everyone tends to lean one way or the other, and generally speaking it's usually the anti-bigotry direction. Theoretically, in a perfect world, in a true free market, businesses that discriminate would not succeed because people would morally oppose supporting them. That's why I consider it "fair" because it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:52 PM
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All the information is right in front of you. Re-read this entire exchange from the beginning until you realize you've just proven my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 01:53 AM
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It doesn't say "outcome independence" anywhere in that article. Also, google the phrase, all the top results except 1 are PUA sites You might want to learn to read before making ignorant pronouncements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 01:20 AM
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I didn't "rattle off" anything. I called out your choice of words. "Outcome Independence" is not in "wisdom traditions" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 12:30 AM
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It's called being content, there's no need to make up a phrase
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:56 PM
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"Faces of The Red Pill" time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 01:02 AM
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They are saying that making a claim without evidence can still be wrong despite anecdotal evidence that agrees with it if contrary anecdotal evidence is provided. Again, AWALT is just an example of a RP trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:46 PM
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Well I wasn't really giving an opinion because I personally don't think AWALT is heuristic nor do I think anything in TRP is heuristic. I was merely trying to give my interpretation of that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:28 AM
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They are using it as an example of someone making a claim with no evidence, which is often a literal statement like AWALT. They aren't saying that the RP usage of AWALT is literal. It's just something we all know is said on TRP so they used it as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:32 AM
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People aren't arguing whether or not AWALT is true, it's mainly people arguing that believing the heuristic is a bad mindset to put yourself in. The parent comment probably just used AWALT as an example because everyone knows what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:09 AM
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I agree. I personally wouldn't punish someone for it, but I don't see anything wrong with it. If you're not conditioned well enough to not say shit like that, you shouldn't be in college. I know there are worse things said all the time, that doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:10 PM
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Yeah it kind of is. They decide to start riding recklessly to chase a feeling of excitement despite all previous knowledge pointing to it being a bad idea. That's the epitome of not controlling an impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:17 PM
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No, we're in for the "TRP is not hard gymbros". Don't guy literally learn to lift from TRP? It takes at least a year to be a hard gymbro. How many people are really on TRP for that long? It doesn't even make sense logistically. The fitness subs aren't even filled with hard gymbros. Hell gyms aren't even filled with hard gymbros. I'm not saying you're saying they're skinny as fuck, just restating what I originally said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 12:49 AM
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Boyband facial aesthetics means "the kind of face that most teenage and maybe 20something girls are attracted to", moreso than "the kind of face grown women are attracted to" If "boyband" isn't a sneaky insult, why not just say he's young and attractive? That would cover your definition of "boyband face". Hair is part of aesthetics-appearance. You are a woman, you think no one judges women on their hair? You don't remember some of the original feminist complaints that guys are prejudiced against…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 12:45 AM
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That's what women in general will attest to. I thought I made it clear I was not talking about all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:37 PM
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Uh, what? Yup, you heard me correctly. They do not represent health and fitness. They represent the health and fitness industry, just like Justin Bieber represents the music industry. However, they aren't studying "Baby" over at Berklee. Obviously, considering >30% are obese (read: gross). Go to a not fat city, they won't find you attractive either. That's just like, your opinion, man It's also, just like, the opinion of women in general, man. I'm not going to tell anyone what's more attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:18 PM
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I don't know why you're showing me more bodybuilders. That's not what being in good shape is, that's what being a bodybuilder/bodybuilding model is, which most people would agree is overly muscular. Like I said, your perception is very skewed from paying so much attention to bodybuilders. They by no means represent health, fitness, the general population, or attractiveness. Rollins is what a human adult man looks like when they are in good health and good shape. He's not an athlete or a bodybuil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:55 PM
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It is great shape. There's no way a person who doesn't exercise can look like that. It's literally not possible. He probably eats healthily too. You find me one shred of health expertise that says a guy like that isn't in great shape and then you'll have a leg to stand on. Boyband facial aesthetics? Is that how you phrase an attractive face to make yourself not feel too bad about your own appearance? Hair isn't a facial aesthetic lmao He's not got much muscle mass otherwise Okay, so go to a body…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:24 PM
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Most young redpillers are hard gymbros. I don't buy that for a second. Even so, I don't see your point. If you know anything about lifting you know those guys aren't "skinny as fuck", especially number 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:15 PM
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That's not how this works
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:32 PM
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Those guys are skinny as fuck to you? Are you just being hyperbolic because that's how to speak, or do you genuinely not realize that's what people in good shape look like? Henry Rollins is actually a pretty naturally built dude (1st guy) and the second guy clearly lifts and is probably like 6'4". I'd go ahead and say you're way too influenced by professional bodybuilding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:45 PM
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Lol that first "skinny fat" guy is not skinny fat. That dudes in great shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:22 PM
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Why do you talk so predictably?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:33 AM
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So no one who isn't deep into physics or RIT students? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:12 AM
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Not sure how true that is, but this thread was about the "average modern man" which not what you describe yourself to be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:08 AM
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I'm euphoric as fuck dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:47 PM
1

So you're not the average person at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:47 PM
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It doesn't matter how close you are to someone, you choose to be around them. Bottom line. If you can't handle independence you don't deserve freedom. The reason we convict people for shit like this against children and animals is they have no real choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:45 PM
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You aren't average or typical
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 04:25 PM
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Any facts or even 3rd party rankings to back this up? I mean it's not a huge deal, but I'm genuinely curious if there's any reason for anyone but those who attend(ed) RIT to believe this. I feel like I, someone somewhat familiar with the field, would've heard of at least 1 thing that's come out of a school you claim to be a hair short of MIT, a school whose accomplishments millions of people are familiar with. You realize why your claim sounds like bullshit to us right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:29 PM
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What are you basing this on though? I know it's a great school, but a hairs short of MIT? My friends who could basically get in anywhere didn't even consider going there and I've never seen it ranked anywhere close to MIT so this just comes as a huge surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:43 PM
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How does reason in this context differ from the ability to reason that we all posses? How does this not contradict the very concept of alpha having anything to do with evolution and "healthy offspring"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:47 AM
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If egotistical men really get more women, then it would make sense for women to not believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:08 AM
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I go on the internet to argue, this is definitely the best one where both sides of a hot topic are heard imo. The debates themselves are shit, but there are good points made often enough and it's not an upvote/downvote-fest. Overall still full of nonsense and a complete waste of time for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:19 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:50 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:46 PM
2

It's still a compliment. It's never not a compliment. People using it sarcastically is mainly done on the internet and in a specific context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:45 PM
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I'm not going to analyze a fictional character in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:42 PM
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15, but with a 4 year maximum difference for people under 21. This is more about finding out who creeps are than protecting young minds. If you're 40 chasing 18 year olds, you're a creep. It doesn't matter if she's sexually mature, if you're 40 and want to spend more than 30 seconds of personal time around an 18 year old for any reason other than they are related to you, there's something wrong with you and you should be taken from society. I don't think 23 is too early to realize that 18 year o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:14 PM
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No he's just not handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:36 PM
2

Are there people on those boards calling others fat and telling them about their 6 pack and the 10 mile run they just went on? Of course not. There's more context than simply TRP it being comprised of "betas". It's not simply "betas" talking about being better at dating, it's them simultaneously putting others down and feeding their warped egos. TRP is to dating as Fat People Hate is/was to weight loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:51 AM
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It's not used for wolves, it most certainly does not apply to humans in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:20 AM
2

This OP could literally describe George Costanza. Stop romanticizing being a shithead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:31 PM
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Maybe if you were more alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:28 PM
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It is morally okay. I don't disagree that sex is a need, just not comparable to food and water - not even close, that's a psychological disorder. Therefore, if the person you committed to stops having sex with you, they need to understand that you'll seek it elsewhere. Now that is a compromise. But having sex with someone, regardless of who they are, when you don't want to is never something anyone should do or feel the need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:19 PM
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Steve Jobs was a pretty handsome dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:11 PM
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Lol rekt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:04 PM
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We aren't in disagreement that sex is a part of a healthy marriage, we are in disagreement that the blame falls on someone's shoulders/shows a lack of love, empathy, etc. Sometimes she just sucks. Committing to a monogamy is fine, but conditional. If sex is a condition, then the relationship should end. So the solution is whatever works for you that doesn't require anyone's free will being violated or manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:02 PM
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A word that was once used to incorrectly describe the behavior of wolves that egos on the internet use to deflect attention from their insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:51 PM
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No I don't think I am. I think most people would be morally okay with cheating if they were backed into a corner. What qualifies as "backed into a corner" is what people disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:13 PM
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It's not exactly what we're talking about. I made a comment (not to you by the way) and you started talking about a scenario that I never brought up. You are apparently talking about a spouse who is refusing to communicate with the other? I wouldn't call their issue a lack of sex, but rather a lack of communication on the single spouses part. You don't seem to understand the difference. Perhaps I missed context somewhere, which I can't find by the way, but I've made it pretty fucking clear in ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:08 PM
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It never occurs to you that having sex with someone you don't want to have sex with causes harm to someone's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:02 PM
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I not saying that's what a dead bedroom is. I am saying that it doesn't matter if they say no 100 or zero times, they are not doing anything morally wrong in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:02 PM
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It wouldn't be too inaccurate to say that everyone here is abnormal just by virtue of being here This is fuckin hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:27 AM
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Just go to TRP or TBP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 03:27 AM
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What makes you an expert on the subject who can state with confidence what is and what is not a compromise in a relationship? What are your credentials? This can't be a serious question. Are you on the spectrum? You realize seem like you can't communicate. I mean that sincerely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:05 AM
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Not basing a marriage on sex, but integrating it as a mutually enjoyable act of intimacy. It's an extreme example to show one basic principle, people lose the desire to have sex with one another. I feel like I'm talking to someone who doesn't understand implicit concepts in communication. And as predicted, you couldn't actually point out where I was wrong about anything or used any logical fallacies Lol except I did. Read it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:03 AM
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There's no strawman, I am arguing against what is being presented. The frequency is irrelevant. One time is too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:00 AM
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You're right, it doesn't say that. It also doesn't say he is using his own judgement. Both our statements are invalid in this case, but valid if given out respective conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:26 AM
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"I won't have sex with anyone else" vs "I will have sex with you whenever you want" It's the former if you couldn't put that together.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:18 AM
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Never said there was a problem with cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:17 AM
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If you want to make a point, you should probably make it, daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:10 AM
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Yes. Because you said that you don't think love can last, therefore marriage vows are "insane". That's textbook projection. I don't think marriage vows last because they fucking don't. This is the reason relationships based on sex don't work, people lose the desire. It's common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:39 PM
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No, I said sex is not an example of an occasional compromise that must take place in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:25 PM
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They are a part of world culture. It doesn't matter. That's not what I said. We're talking about immigrants in America vs Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:20 PM
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Please show me where I said it wasn't a need One guy's opinion is not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:18 PM
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"Til death do us part" We will be married until we die. I can't think of any reason to believe that implies "We have to have sex with each other regardless of whether or not we want to" So you think all marriage vows are a scam, because no one could love like that? No, but the odds are not in your favor. How is the other person harming the marriage if they aren't the cause of the rift? They are the cause. Wanting to have sex with someone is just as natural as not wanting to have sex with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:15 PM
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I don't have to formal education to even know who that is, let alone anything he or she said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 10:54 PM
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No, expecting something so big from someone based on an illogical belief is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 10:52 PM
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TIL Einstein and Tesla are American And you have the audacity to call anyone retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 10:31 PM
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if in the worst case scenario I simply am not attracted to her anymore I would have a discussion about that. I noticed you didn't throw "I would have sex with her" at the end of that. Having empathy for the person you love enough to commit to a LTR with is fucking basic. No fucking shit. That isn't what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 10:30 PM
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despite making lifelong vows I don't think the interpretation of these vows is universal. If someone vows to love you forever (which is already an insane thing to believe), I highly doubt they mean they'll have sex with you regardless of whether or not they want to. So now you have one person who has unilaterally created an unhealthy marriage. How is that not "unreasonably selfish"? One person didn't create an unhealthy marriage, they both did. Relationships become unhealthy naturally all the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 10:26 PM
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Because he can chose to believe whatever he wants and he's not interfering with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 09:56 PM
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You did not understand the OP. "A woman needs help" is a given piece of information here. It's already been decided that she needs or wants help. So no one is defining or enforcing anything on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 08:37 PM
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Where did refusing sex turn into threats to ruin someone's life? We aren't talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 08:13 PM
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I agree. Sex is not an example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 08:06 PM
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I agree with this. Of course it begs the question: why would you marry someone you don't want to have sex with? They aren't. They're marrying someone believing their desire will last. I would imagine that no one expects to fall out of love with the person they marry. despite agreeing that sex is part of marriage It's not. A desire to have sex with each other is a sign of a healthy marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:53 PM
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He believes women are inherently deserving of protection, and it's his duty to protect her. But he believes trying to take down a bad boy talking to her would make the girl fall in love with him It's either his unconditional duty to protect women or he protects women he thinks will have sex with him. One is fine, the other is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:40 PM
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Depends. We're at a point in this discussion where you either define "lack of empathy" as: A. an implication of wrong doing or B. Not putting another's desires in front of your own You have to clarify what you believe to communicate your point efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:22 PM
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SHE agreed to be his ONLY sexual outlet, which means SHE agreed to take care of HIS sexual needs This is non sequential. They both agreed to only have sex with each other, true, but not to be at each other's beck and call. That is a false assumption many people have entering marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:12 PM
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You didn't even answer my question, all you did was reiterate your original statement without reasoning; again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:05 PM
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It's an axiom of this discussion that people have 100% control over who they have sex with, it's morally okay to decline or accept sex, and any violation of that is immoral. A "lack of empathy" refers to someone who does something unreasonably selfish. If you disagree with these statements, then nothing can come of it because we disagree on a fundamental principle. If you agree with these statements then I'll explain why what you're saying is illogical and immoral. I have a strong feeling we dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:15 PM
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Hold it for a second. Are you saying it shows a lack of empathy as in it shows that a person is not 100% empathic as in they put all the desires of others above their own? You have to define a "lack of empathy" in this context. What other actions or moral obligations would you equate it to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:12 PM
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You're equating a lack of empathy with being reasonably self centered. When people say "lack of empathy", it's to describe someone who literally does not posses empathy up to people who do very unreasonable things to other people. People who kill, rape, torture, then people who lie, steal, etc. Declining sex does not display a significant lack of empathy, not nearly significant enough to say "a lack of empathy". They aren't doing anything to do. You have allowed yourself to become 100% dependent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 05:36 PM
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It shows a lack of wanting to have sex with you. That's it. To conclude anything else would require more information pertaining to a specific instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 05:10 PM
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deprive another person of their sexual expression. Except they aren't doing that, they're depriving you of their own body, something they have the right to do, morally and legally. "I don't need intimacy, so I don't want to be intimate with you" This is closer to the reality than "I don't need intimacy, so I don't want you to need intimacy, either."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 05:06 PM
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How can you logically justify having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 05:01 PM
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Sounds more like she doesn't want to have sex with him. I wouldn't equate that to a lack of empathy, a lack of sympathy, or a lack of wanting him to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:58 PM
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I said in my life time, I'm not in my late 60s lol. I'm not about to argue its gotten whiter since the 50s, I mean since the 90s. I'm probably still wrong though, I might just be around more really white people now. I was thinking about how major cultural influences like hip hop have become whiter, but then I remembered how those people talk, dress, and act and how they're still emulated by the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:36 PM
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The average educated person probably couldn't name 3 white American scientists off the top of their head. American culture has never been about science. This argument is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:28 PM
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Show me where I proposed that and I'll concede. If not, then let's just stop with this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 05:29 AM
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Okay, but it does not apply to this situation. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:29 AM
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Women here read too much TRP to be fooled by something so transparent. Ask normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:07 AM
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Someone being hypocritical can invalidate their statement, particularly if it involves applying a standard or principle This is false. The only time this is true is if the standard being proposed is equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:03 AM
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You don't need permission to ask the question, never said you did. I'm trying to get you to see why your question is pointless to the discussion. That's more important than the answer to your question. The answer to that is similar to my comment about negative generalizations being pointless. Someone being hypocritical does not invalidate their statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:08 AM
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I wrote a comment according to a question in the OP. Now you're talking about hypocrisy in feminism, an entirely different topic. I don't remember typing "AMA" at the end of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:23 AM
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I don't think I have to confirm this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:01 AM
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I still don't know what that means in practical terms. If anything America has become "whiter" in my lifetime. Maybe not more conservative (whatever the fuck that also means), but I'd say whiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 12:59 AM
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Boring and weird are not objective attributes. She obviously would not think he is boring and weird. Fat people who play videogames all day get married. Also I don't think this type of person is as common as you present, although it's really just my speculation. People in that situation are generally mentally ill and don't want to live like that. That does not qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:55 PM
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So perhaps the actual field of study is protoscience, but its application on TRP is pseudoscience. you do realize that this person is presenting theories of evolutionary psychology as "incontrovertible scientific fact" and applying it showing he believes it. And he's not the only one. I think that qualifies as "not wanting to be tested".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:50 PM
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Your first two will only be perceived as misogynistic if you're using it to justify something fucked up. The second two logically apply to men as well, so without a given context they appear at least negative and sexist (as opposed to pure hatred). There's no reason to say anything negative about women though. It's pointless. That's why you come off as misogynistic. You're revealing pre existing negative feelings, rather than something directed as a person doing something. Generalizations make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:25 PM
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Protoscience: a set of beliefs or theories that have not yet been tested adequately by the scientific method but which are otherwise consistent with existing science; a new science working to establish itself as legitimate science Right, so psuedoscience, considering it's being presented as fact with zero scientific basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:18 PM
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You still didn't clarify what is declining. White American culture? Which would be what exactly? The people coming out of engineering and medical schools are immigrants and immigrants' kids. Is that so? https://www.asee.org/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles/2011-profile-engineering-statistics.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:10 PM
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You aren't even supporting your own view. You comment with something claiming it is essentially an irrefutable fact, yet provide nothing to support it. Either don't present the idea or support it. I've looked into this topic and it must be hidden within the crypt of knowledge for only those worthy enough to bestow upon its truths, so please enlighten those of us who can't seem to gain access.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 06:52 PM
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It's in the same category as a lot of other biological facts with no less evidence. Yeah, pseudoscience
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:51 AM
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Explain, because all I can say to this is "yes it is"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:08 AM
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What are you asking? The "x factor" is attraction. It's not weird or crazy at all. "Conventionally attractive" just means that this person would be attractive to many people, it doesn't mean they'd be anyone's favorite or unique. You can think someone is conventionally attractive without being attracted to them. This is why "be yourself" is good advice as long as there's nothing alarmingly wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 07:51 PM
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You're right, skinnyfats have better facial aesthetics than fat dudes. That's not what he's saying. He's saying that regardless of how hard you work out, someone with a better face will be more successful with women than you in Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:38 PM
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I don't agree. In general, a business setting has to appeal to a large amount of people. There's no reason to apply this logic to two people. If you did that stuff you wish you could do at work, there would probably be a few people who wouldn't mind or even like it. Behavior in a business setting is about playing it safe. The reward does not diminish because you were uncomfortable for a few hours. In a relationship, it's really at it's maximum benefit for both people when they act exactly how th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 05:06 PM
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They clearly stated not a legal right, so where do you get this "pointing guns" nonsense from? Pretty sure it's meant to mean everyone should respect every individual until they are disrespected by them. Something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 12:46 AM
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It's not "do this or we'll point guns at you". It's "be a part of the society that provides for you or you will be outcast, if it comes to violence, it will". If all you can see is the guns, that is exactly why the guns are there. Some people will only respond to violence. It's just how it is. You're trying to make a profound statement about the only way a collective society will function. As a side note, what law is there against disrespecting someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 03:31 PM
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I agree with the first 4 bullet point scenarios to an extent. Everything else is outlandish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:30 AM
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This is a pretty common perspective in feminist circles, though not universal Which circles? Seems like most feminists think it's exploitation, some even going as far as calling it rape. If there's a feminist group out there that is logical enough to believe this, I'd like to see what else they advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:19 AM
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Let them try and hide their inferiority complex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:32 AM
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Maybe 75%, I mean why not 1% 10%, but the circumstances in part 1 have to apply. I would never go out with a girl that asked me unless I knew her already at least a little. Percentages are hard to estimate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:11 PM
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Forget discriminatory, she sounds like a moron If someone was discriminatory under particular circumstances I wouldn't really care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:04 PM
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There is no future attached to sex, what the fuck? Who told you this. This is like PPD 101
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:00 AM
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This idea is extremely foreign to me. You have to either articulate what you're talking about or present me with facts. I am a man, I know many men. I've never once heard anyone describe being interesting as a negative quality, in fact men usually describe a woman who is interesting with great excitement. Are you referring to men rejecting interesting women who are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:10 AM
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No, no one claims that. Not one single person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:03 AM
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I don't know what you're basing this on. Because variety in fashion, music, movies, TV, what people go to school for, where people are from, what people look like, etc is at an all time high.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:02 AM
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Where does TRP claim this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:59 PM
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So you mean conforming? Again, false. People just don't like edgelords. If you're seeing men liking very typical women, they are probably very typical men. I wouldn't say "men love basic women" just because that's who you see them with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:56 PM
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Okay first off, no on the personality thing. Women also have higher physical standards if you ask me. But let's get to the real point. How is having no personality an impossible standard? Being boring is hard? Even if this were an attractive feature, I don't see how it'd be hard to live up to. Do you mean 100% subservient? Even then I don't think anyone wants that other than maybe sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:47 PM
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have no personality What
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:27 PM
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He's calling you an idiot if you use evolution as a justification for something you chose to do as an individual. I agree with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:19 PM
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So hand to god, you're telling me that at least 6/10 of these women were not involved in a relationship with these men at any point in time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:26 PM
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You avoided the main question. Be honest with yourself and think of how many people you have known personally in this situation. Because your language does not convey to me that you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. You sound like you're telling a story you heard from a guy who heard it from a guy. You might be telling the truth of your observation, but you're not very convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:17 PM
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They're almost always the result of a couple having a child and the man leaving, actually. It's also pretty common for the man to die or get locked up. How many girls have you gotten pregnant, or seen get pregnant at 16-22? I don't think I've ever seen it happen from a "fling". I could name at least 20 people off the top of my head that I've known personally in this situation. I see why you believe what you believe about abortion (and I agree with the bullet points), but your premise is dead wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:02 PM
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I don't really know what you're saying in response to me. This guy (I don't know if it was you) said there is no BP answer for some things, and TRP has answers, so go with TRP. No only is that faulty logic on choosing a side, it's a false premise. BSing an explanation hardly counts as having an explanation. That's analogous choosing religion over science.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:57 PM
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I think the reason frat boys get girls is they have free alcohol and a place to party. I don't see what separates a frat boy from anyone who's a regular party goer except that. There's a reason it's usually younger female students there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 11:52 PM
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Albert Einstein does not fit in with rest of these people. If he did, those of us who were allowed to be alive would be speaking German right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 09:36 PM
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The only thing Greek life shows is that social status and masculinity are very attractive to women Lol how does it show masculinity? The only thing a frat has going for it is free alcohol and place to drink it. Even at a D3 school, no one sees the frat bros as "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 09:25 PM
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No one can explain why an individual made a choice except that individual. We can only speculate. You can't take a lack of speculation and judgement as "not having an answer".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:49 PM
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What about Clinton and Obama?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:24 PM
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Who doesn't believe this? "I'm an old school republican. I believe slavery should remain abolished. Therefore i am republican in 2016." You're not feminist if that's how you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:06 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI9jywQ4cgc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:56 PM
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Don't confused qualitative with subjective. Yes, it's subjective, but it's still valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:06 PM
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It's admirable, but it's also stupid. I don't think women in general will like that very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:32 PM
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How does anxiety relate to being submissive? Confidence and dominance aren't related. That's the misinterpretation. A dominant person will appear confident. That's a false assumption. So I agree that dominance is often mislabeled as confidence and anxiety is often mislabeled as anxious. That's why it may seem like men don't mind an anxious girl, but they certainly will once they find out it doesn't actually mean she's submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:27 PM
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Everyone wants to be around people who are calm. You pick up on other people's vibes. If someone around you is acting nervous you're more likely to feel nervous. If everyone is relaxed, it's easier to relax. Feeling calm > feeling anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:38 AM
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It is your narrative because it's not what I'm talking about. You do realize that I'm not talking about what you're talking about right? You might as well make sex illegal because rape happens according to your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:59 AM
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Certainly if you accept TRPs idea of 20% of men getting 80% of the sex you end up with this conclusion As far as I know, the 80/20 rule when it comes to sex means that 20% of men can sleep with 80% of women, not "20% of men have sex/are sexually attractive". That's not the point though. The point is that we are having a hypothetical discussion. It makes no sense to call the average a 4 and then say math words that don't even make sense, which is what OP did. All we were doing was explaining to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:25 AM
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So an officer, gun exposed, pulls over a women, alone, and demands sexual favors and you think that shouldn't be a crime? Stop rewriting what I say to fit your own narrative. There's nothing being demanded. His gun is fucking irrelevant. It's pretty clear : Blow him and you're off the hook. Say no and you pay a ticket, the ticket you earned by speeding. A prison guard makes life a living hell for female prisoners who don't have sex with him Again. You are making shit up. This is not what I said.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:02 AM
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No one gets hired on sex appeal in the sector I work in. Unless you count HR. There are plenty of idiots in HR who I can only imagine got their credentials on their knees. We were specifically talking about retail though. However, there is a lack of gender diversity here and many women have complained about sexual harassment. It's not real harassment, it's "everyone is trying to date me" harassment. You can't fuck your way to the top is what I'm getting at. a prison guard demanding sex from pris…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:23 PM
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Yeah, I don't think it should be illegal. The way that most employment is earned is not by being the best candidate, so I don't see why everything suddenly becomes so "professional" once hired. Like I said, if the only thing separating you from anyone else is your sex appeal, why should anyone care that you'll be fired for not putting it to good use according to the people who run the company and provide your living? Let me draw and analogy. If you were speeding, you get pulled over, and the cop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:48 PM
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Kind of how I feel too, as fucked up as it is. I'm not the type of person to buy convenient sob stories, so I know I'd end up just asking these questions which would not blow over well with her if she was really raped. I'd bring her to the ER and probably end it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:17 PM
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Stay real 15 year old me, listen to even less of what people tell you and take even less shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:54 PM
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You keep saying obligated, I never said anyone was obligated to do anything. What's next? Random guy buys a drink at a bar -sexually obligated? Open the door for her - she's sexually obligated! If a guy buys you a drink at a bar, don't accept it if you're not interested. Guys don't typically buy other guys drinks for no reason if you haven't noticed. Wonder why that is. Holding the door open, well, that's a common decency for anyone so no. What's worse, you shouldn't think it's normal for the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:37 PM
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I understand what you're saying now. That's not what I came here to argue, but you have made something else clear. However, since we're trying to be somewhat objective here, I think we can all understand the concept that a 5 is average by definition alone and then base our rating of a 5 on that concept. I'm sure if you took a survey of 10,000 people rating 100,000 people out of 10, the data would probably not fall flush on a 5, but that's why after that data was collected, you would normalize th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:22 PM
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might favor a pretty woman because he wants to be around a pretty woman/thinks it might help the biz This is still because sex You should not expect and accept sexual harassment because your boss hired you. That's crazy. Then quit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:16 AM
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No, but I do not shop at many stores and do not shop often. I'm mainly going by my own experience working. Everyone was pretty young. Even when I bar tended, oldest person who dealt with customers was like 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 04:12 AM
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I live in a big city, it's pretty rare to see someone who isn't attractive at a store front.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:49 AM
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If you only have your job because someone wants to fuck you, yes, accept the fact that people will try to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:43 AM
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Working in retail? Not any store I shop at.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:19 AM
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Can't help but feel like those girls are only getting the jobs because they are girls in the first place. Would you rather not have a job? Because I don't think you'd rather people not consider the fact that sex sells. And I don't want this to come off as just a gut feeling of mine, I've seen it first hand. Been on the side of hiring young people for retail jobs. The hot girl who wasn't a complete moron got the job 9/10 times. When there really aren't qualifications necessary, you're a shoe-in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:49 AM
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How does what you say back up people saying a 4 is average?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:36 AM
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Okay that's not exactly what's being talked about here, that is a complete stranger. I'm talking more about a situation like this where she is already showing interest in at least your presence. I'm not advocating walking up and kissing strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:02 PM
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If you grab her and she fights back obviously stop. I'm saying not to listen to mere words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:09 PM
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Your explaination still doesn't make any sense. A 5 is the 50th percentile on a gaussian distribution. That is the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:07 PM
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I don't see how someone can even think that. You think attractive people can't be shit in bed? You think sex gods all look like Brad Pitt? It might have to do with attraction too, but I think it has more often has to do with sex than what the person looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:47 AM
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One guy is saying that women commonly marry men they are less attracted to than previous partners. I'm saying they are not. I'm also saying that it's more common (but still not common) for someone to end up in a marriage that is less sexually exciting than a previous relationship (nothing to do with attraction). Then you started saying I said some RP shit about alpha widows and I don't know or care what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:59 PM
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Nope, not what I said or implied. Besides doesn't alpha have to do with attractiveness and not sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:01 PM
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Yeah I don't agree, I don't think that's common. I don't think what you're describing is about attractiveness. I think it's more about the sex itself if anything. I think people more often find themselves in a situation where an ex has "ruined them" sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:18 PM
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That's what I'm saying, I don't think that's common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:43 PM
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This is particularly true because TRP'ers are usually rather muscled guys lol I agree with what that commenter said, under many circumstances. Act first, apologize later. Grab her and then see what she does. She how she responds to an action rather than words. Of course there is a fine line and I'm painting the ideal scenario, but sometimes you have to take risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:42 PM
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You didn't stay on topic. I have nothing left to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:32 PM
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No. And you pretty much have to adhere to the belief that women marry guys they aren't attracted to to even think this is possible, therefore there is no room for debate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 05:11 PM
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It's not at all, it's not even related. It's not a facet inherent in any economic system. It's a single welfare program that's designed to operate under US capitalism in this context. first of all, essentially all the homeless are men This has to do with nothing I'm talking about. but omg womynn need a fair wage!!! Angry, sarcastic comment about women for some reason. Google communism, calm down, and stay on topic. Then you can be taken seriously in your reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:44 PM
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Basic income does not deny people the right to ownership, capital, social mobility, etc. It's not Communism at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:57 PM
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Dude what are you not getting about this story? The commenter you were arguing with said that he told her "you can't leave unless you have sex with me". That is a threat, that is rape. Stop bringing up anything else, that is the story we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:23 AM
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I didn't read it either, I'm not concerned with whether or not he did anything. But if what that poster said was true, that he threatened her, he raped her. Sounded like you think that isn't rape. Taking advantage of the fact that someone's inhibitions might be lower is one thing, taking advantage of being bigger and their fear of getting hurt is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:04 PM
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Are you denying that he didn't say something along the lines of "You're not leaving if you don't have sex with me"? If he said that, he raped her. How is that rape, read my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 04:59 AM
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I'm not accusing anyone of doing anything, but intimidating someone into sleeping with you is most definitely rape. Same way intimidating someone into giving you money is stealing, it's called extortion. Telling someone they cannot leave unless they sleep with you (i.e, threatening them) is rape. The implication here is that if she tries to leave, she will get hurt. That is a threat, that is force. If you don't see how that's force, I don't know what to say to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 01:26 AM
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It's both
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 09:34 PM
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Mutual exclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:43 PM
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Do you get off on girls saying "ow" or is your dick so small that you don't know how much of a boner killer it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:24 PM
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"I'm better than everyone so I don't care what they think about me." This is textbook insecurity. Have you ever been very good, or even the best at something? Is this really how you felt? I've never felt like this after accomplishment nor have I met highly accomplished people who felt like this. Only unhappy people act like dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 02:48 AM
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A. It's just my opinion. You don't have to agree. There's no right or wrong answer. B. My opinion is most definitely not the minority. You can have your views but people will shoot you down as wrong. That is foolish
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:23 PM
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Yeah, one totally isn't a front runner for presidency.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 08:13 PM
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I'm not upset about any of the usage, I'm pointing out an observation. Yes, many labels are often overused. My perspective is flawed, that's why I tend to not label people. Especially with terms like creepy and rapey, which are significantly more serious than calling someone funny or nerdy. You seem to not see how terrible it is to call someone creepy. How do you expect to see my point when the word doesn't carry a heavy negative meaning in your vocabulary? It's a bad thing to call people, that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 08:06 PM
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I don't see it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 05:56 PM
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I would call someone creepy if they were creeping me out. Exactly, that's all you needed to say. You should say you are the one getting creeped out, get it? Not label someone as something because of your flawed perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:49 PM
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I never said most people use creepy in the wrong way. I said the word is often used in the wrong way. Most people don't even call others creepy. Synonyms of "creepy": frightening, eerie, disturbing, sinister, weird, hair-raising, menacing, threatening, eldritch. Why would you call anyone creepy if they weren't going to hurt you or had any malicious intentions towards you? Is it creepy to be sexually forward with a woman? I don't think so, but it would be called creepy 90-100% of the time. Go to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:06 AM
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Never said it was, but it definitely is to me and many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 09:30 PM
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This scenario defies physics. How would women be able to enslave men? How would women stop men from doing, well, anything really. If I lived in this society I would probably rape and murder as many women as I could considering this is basically a war society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:46 PM
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It's more so the submissive aspect. You can have your super orgasm with an anal toy couldn't you? Getting pegged is a completely different dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:36 PM
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"I don't like them" Use whatever language you want, just realize that it makes you sound like you're crying wolf. We're not talking about a bad vibe, we're talking about someone who just doesn't seem normal. A creep is someone that will hurt you or disrespect you. Not someone with messy hair or someone who looked at your Facebook. I honestly don't believe people genuinely become fearful from these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:26 PM
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Yes, they're using it to describe a general negative feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:53 PM
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Jack Nicholson can't not be creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 02:37 AM
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It's not a case of cause and effect, a person who seems unhygienic seems more socially withdrawn therefore seeming deviant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:22 AM
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Maybe she didn't like it, maybe your dick is too big. Who the fuck knows. The whole point of sexual exploration is just that. If 10 years ago you gave the okay to an open relationship with an ex and you found that it wasn't for you, does that mean every girlfriend you have from that point on is allowed to fuck other people because you're a cuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 10:53 PM
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People use the word creep incorrectly, or at least incredibly loosely. Don't take it seriously. Of course the word has bias behind it. They'll use a better word when someone is actually being alarmingly strange, in which case, no stranger gets away with that type of behavior no matter how good looking they are. Peering into someone's bathroom for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 10:39 PM
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In the past he was in his early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:23 PM
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Some have even advocated for welfare prostitute services much like SNAP and food benefits. In that case, they do feel entitled to sex in a general sense. But that's not exactly what I'm arguing against. What I'm talking about are discrete cases. I don't think any man feels entitled to sex from a particular woman. That's what people are talking about when they say "men feel entitled to sex". They don't mean in a general sense, they mean "Women don't have to have sex with you if they don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:12 AM
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If you're paying for a prostitute you are entitled to sex. They feel they should be entitled to be able to pay for sex legally. That's not the same thing as feeling entitled to sex. I think drugs are a life necessity and think I should be entitled to do them and be left alone, that doesn't mean I think they should be given to me for no reason other than "I want them".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:36 AM
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Same reason they think they'll get a relationship out of a one night stand, hope and desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:59 PM
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The word is thrown around a lot in various contexts. I don't think any man seriously believes he's entitled to sex unless lead to believe so, and that's only in cases where people are dating or in a relationship. Or a prostitute in which case he is entitled to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:56 PM
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By wearing clothes, driving cars, and talking about activities that are expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:08 PM
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We aren't talking about relationships, we're talking about what it means to be masculine/feminine. Nothing you're saying is proving that being feminine is hard work, all you're telling us is that you are a woman and you work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:01 AM
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Although what you described is hard work, it's not feminine at all. Those are by no means social requirements for the typical woman. It really is just basic human upkeep that everyone has to do to be normal like bathing. You could not do all that stuff and still land a man to love you and take care of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:46 AM
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Never said you were, but anti-feminists get mad when feminists redefine or add to existing definitions. I was backing you up dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:15 AM
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Only feminists aren't allowed to redefine words, get with it pal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:09 AM
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Still no examples of how white men are shamed for being masculine, but black men aren't, huh? Because you know, that's what we're talking about. I really don't care what your personal opinion of black people is, you're making no sense at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:06 AM
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They aren't getting away with anything in those cases, no one cares enough to help them. It's not exactly a privilege to live in a crime ridden neighborhood...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:39 PM
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You can't be serious. What do you mean get away with it? Are prison statistics not relevant? Are they only relevant when you want to "prove" white superiority? You've gone from vague, subjective opinion to full retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 10:02 PM
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Really? Those are your examples of masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 09:41 PM
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What form of masculinity are white men shamed for that black men aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:24 PM
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"That's cool, good thing you don't know my real name and I have no prior arrests so good luck finding my DNA in the system. Idiot."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:00 PM
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He won't face a month of total rejection. He might not get laid, but he will at the very least make some casual friends to hang out with which will do a lot more for him overall. People get laid all the time without ever lifting a weight. No one ever gets laid being a hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 07:57 PM
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Because he doesn't even try, he doesn't leave his house and talk to people enough. Is this really not obvious to you? Do you honestly think that it's because he isn't in great shape? You really don't have to make up for it in any ways, 6'0" 200 really isn't that bad for a guy, pretty typical for an American even. Your advice won't get him laid until he's 26. Mine will within the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 04:55 PM
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False. Slightly overweight people get laid just fine, many women are into that if you're tall which he is. Only dick heads will see him as a "waste of space" wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 07:46 PM
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Socializing isn't complicated. There's no shortcut necessary. I told him how you meet people and tried to cater it to his personality, are you trying to say you can't meet people the way I said? Because you'd be wrong. Everyone is telling him to make all these huge, unrealistic lifestyle changes when all he needs to do is go out and talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 11:37 PM
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I didn't say that, how about learning to read and considering context? Also realize that they are not requirements. I gave him practical advice, you're giving him generic, long term advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:22 PM
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I said none of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:51 PM
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What... I think the word you were looking for was neckbeard. Not redneck. The only person here speculating and name calling is you. I'm just trying to help you understand what chad means, and you don't seem to want to understand so this doesn't need to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:54 PM
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Well there you have it, you only go after chads
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:37 PM
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You're being convoluted. Are the people you actually date the people you see as ideal or do you generally get ignored/rejected by the people you find ideal? It's a really fucking simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:33 PM
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"Chad" is just a term for "the guy you really like". Most guys never even get to speak to the woman equivalent, let alone date and sleep with them. Are there guys out there you would much rather have be into you or are you always with the guy you really want to be with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:27 PM
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Threads like this are going to be a lot to take in. Not only are people going to go way too far into it, but you're also going to get contradictory advice. I say don't stop smoking. That's a good social activity. When I stopped casually using drugs, it became harder to casually chill with people. If you enjoy it, keep doing it because it's a good way to meet people. Go to a bar, talk to some people, invite them to smoke and chat with them. Mention how you're not from the area, how you work from …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 04:14 PM
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I don't think a compliment will make any difference if she doesn't find you attractive at all, but it's a good way open and/or reveal something about yourself. However, since you're asking about someone you're already dating, she must be attracted to you so I don't see how compliments would hurt you unless you do it too much for too long or they're rude compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:36 PM
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I think people naturally don't like being given charity. I'd rather be given money for the work I do than just handed the same paycheck every week because I'm so bad at everything. That'd make me feel worse about myself than being homeless. She's not helping anyone. Especially since she doesn't even break things off properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 03:42 PM
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It's pretty easy to tell when someone's personality was formed in a few months. I'm not a woman or "blue pill" whatever that means, but the guy you just described sticks out like a sore thumb in a matter of minutes, if not seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:10 PM
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In an ideal society where everyone has equal opportunity, they would not exist. That's the theory, clarify that before you get bombarded
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:07 PM
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And he is insanely popular because people like him, especially young women. They like him because of how he looks and his talent. Regardless, that's just one example of one type of guy. The point is, that highly attractive men under 30 have wayyy more sex appeal to young women than these average 35 year olds who took 15 years to finally get their shit together. Younger women only date older men because they are more like their actual fantasy men (Athletes, musicians, etc) who tend to look older …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 02:07 PM
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There are richer people than him, yet he's pulling more girls. The money helps, just like it helps your cousin, but it's not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 10:31 PM
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It doesn't matter what most 20 year olds are doing, what I'm saying is no 40 year old in the world can hold a candle to a highly attractive 20 year old. No 40 year old on the planet can get more young women than Justin Bieber
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 08:23 PM
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Ths is mostly the case of younger guys being pissed that older men have a much better hairline, much fitter and better looking than them lol what? No fit 35 year old looks better than an attractive 22 year old. That's nonsense. And young women love hair, not a receding hairline. This is nonsense. You must be picturing a 35 year old in great shape vs an average looking 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 07:35 PM
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Some of them are the chads
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 02:17 AM
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Isn't this the "Redpill world"? I didn't think it was some theory of how society is run, but more of an analysis of how we already do things. So what are you asking, what would happen to women in this world? Exactly what does already happen to women. I think people would prefer much less bullshit surrounding the woman's agenda though. I don't think anyone has a problem with women doing what they're good at, but they have to actually be good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:48 PM
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Exactly, that's why I said it wasn't going to go anywhere. I wanted to point out why you can't draw such a bold line between the 2 descriptions the parent commenter made, but what's the point when someone already has their mind made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:01 PM
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My experience with tough poor people is they're usually just big, not really jacked. They don't have beach bodies is what I'm saying. But that's beside the point I'm just countering your anecdotal story with my own. Anyways, it doesn't take much discipline to go to the gym. People grow to be lazy and out of shape and it takes hard work to go from that, but if you never fall into a hole, exercising isn't even remotely indicative of not being a pussy. Besides, reading a book takes more for people …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:55 PM
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Even if this town is real, that's one group of people from a single demographic. Plenty of people also work out and get tattoos to deflect people's perception from how big of a pussy they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:46 PM
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Those are online dating sites, people are going to be the most choosey on them. Go to a party or a bar where people actually have to be somewhat grounded if they want to get any action.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:50 PM
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You watch too much MMA
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:49 PM
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It wouldn't detract from the panty wetting aspect of the guy. Definitely going to disagree with that one. This isn't going to go anywhere though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 11:15 PM
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You put 2 obviously negative traits in with the first list and left all negatives out of the second list. Take the 2 negatives out and they're equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:58 PM
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Take out obedient and meek and you're fine. There are plenty of jacked, tatted up, aggressive pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:53 PM
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In the US Sexist: 100% - I don't think anyone is thick enough to believe men and women are the same in all regards Misogynistic: <2%, and that 2% is comprised of people so socially withdrawn you'll never hear their opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 07:13 PM
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Yes, behavior falls under social ability. Some people don't know how to behave given a specific situation, they end up doing something "weird" which makes people think they aren't normal, so people don't want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 07:20 PM
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The only common trait among incels are communication and social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 07:03 PM
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I don't know how you could've interpreted what I said to mean that so I'm not sure how to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 06:52 PM
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The reasons don't matter. The question isn't whether incelism(?) is common among those with issues, it's what traits are common among incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 06:43 PM
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Social/Communication issues. That's about it - so not even an emotional or physical quality. I don't think they are disproportionately out of shape, ugly, poor, etc compared to typical socially adjusted people. This is assuming typical mind and body function. As in, not counting people who can't physically have sex or don't care about sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 03:36 PM
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Before
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 04:02 AM
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As a contrast to desperation, sure, but not as a life philosophy. I guess it's the phrase "I don't give a fuck" being rather ambiguous given no context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:57 PM
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Not giving a fuck isn't how you attract women though, so why is there such a thing within TRP? Or is it discussed separate from sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:04 PM
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It depends on how you're defining confidence. In the sense of self confidence, where you are "okay" regardless of outcome, everyone has it the same. If you mean confidence in the sense of "knowing" you'll succeed, then repeated success will grow that. The first is not material driven, while the second is. I guess the unfortunate thing is the confidence people refer to in dating is the material kind. It's not really confidence that people are attracted to, it's whatever is fueling that confidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:37 PM
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You already did copy and paste the exact same post with a different title. Anyways, it's impossible to make a counter argument to a statement that doesn't make any sense. Our species didn't evolve because women are attracted to six packs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:10 PM
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Guess I'll ask on the new thread. What does this have to do with evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:53 PM
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I asked a question, that might be the easiest form of phrasing for you to respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:46 PM
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I did, and it sounded like you didn't know what evolution is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:37 PM
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Someone was trying to say this evolution thing to me a few weeks ago and didn't really explain it, how is anyone arguing against evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:33 PM
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You didn't explain the value. I don't have a problem with the language, I'm having trouble understanding your point when you misuse words. You aren't using evolution correctly. How is anyone supposed to know what you're saying if you misuse a word? Also, I'm not sure what you're saying I'm absolutely wrong about. I'm having a lot of trouble deciphering what you're trying to say. You're kinda jumping around and assuming I know everything you know or maybe I'm missing some context. Not sure, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:17 AM
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I'll use your example of intelligence. Humans are an intelligent species because the intelligent individuals were the ones who survived. The survivors bred, and over the course of a few million years, intelligence remained a strong attribute for survival so the trait survived and remains with us today. It's not because people chose to breed with intelligent individuals, it's not because of anything other than the fact that those were simply the individuals that were alive to breed. Intelligence …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:31 AM
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Those aren't even good indicators of attractiveness, let alone health. Plenty of ugly people have straight teeth and are physically fit. That's only a small part of it. Again, where's the connection to evolution? The only thing you've mentioned that's linked to evolution is straight teeth, which humans have evolved to not have typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 09:38 PM
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Obviously this serves the evolutionary purpose of making the defects rare. This statement doesn't make any sense. There's no such thing as "evolutionary purpose". Anyways, what is a "genetic defect"? Having a big forehead? Having your eyes too far apart? Those aren't attractive features, but what does it have to do with evolution or health? Or do you mean hereditary diseases like Huntington's disease, which aren't visible until at least a decade after sexual maturity, often much longer? Or do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 11:50 AM
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It's still completely random. Who individuals in a species breed with obviously influences the traits of future generations, but it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with survival of that species. Some people are genetic dead ends, that is how evolution works and removes defects from future generations. This statement is nonsensical. I know it wasn't you who said it, but it's what kicked things off in the wrong direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:42 PM
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I've read this sub a good amount, but never participated in any single side. It's hard to learn in a debate where one side (TRP) constantly keeps it formal while their opponent hides behind sarcastic remarks and tabloid language. It's not that I don't agree with some BP views, but when there's a debate about something I don't already have an opinion on, RP wins every time. I've never had a BP opinion change or open my mind to anything. The biggest difference, from what I've seen, is that one sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:43 PM
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