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As described in OP, she literally started the business with him. How is this even a question? There are plenty of times when men, wealthy or not, have been screwed by the courts. This ain't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:10 PM
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They look like the ordinary dudes who have memberships to your cheap corporate chain gym. Cheap corporate chain gyms have weights. If you actually use them, you'll look better than all but a couple of the pics above.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 06:47 PM
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I don't think the post is edgy, I have the same frustration and distance myself from the kind of people he describes. Fair point about the comment, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:17 PM
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"We all" accept it, huh? Okay. And here's my post: Your primary goal is keeping your woman happy if and only if you let it be. Otherwise, it's not. How'd I do?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/17 08:09 PM
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Gonna pass on that. Good luck surviving without someone telling you exactly what to do at all times.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/17 05:38 PM
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When you live with a woman, your paramount importance is essentially keeping her happy This is just wrong. If you have shitty frame, it can get this way, but that's nothing to do with the living situation.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/17 05:20 PM
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the woman...told jurors she had deleted some to free up storage space. This isn't even real. Facebook message storage space? It's obvious she was covering it up. "No officer, I had to drink that beer, there wasn't enough room for it in the car."
/r/MensRights22/12/17 05:01 PM
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Seriously. What the shit...
/r/MensRights22/12/17 04:58 PM
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Are you suggesting that his sentencing had nothing to do with the 36 other offenses for which he has been convicted? Because that's just stupid. Or that the charges against her weren't reduced because she's got no priors and it's pretty easy to blame the dirtbag with 28 prior convictions? C'mon. She's clearly incompetent, and unfit to raise a child. But the massive differences in their criminal records fogs the whole thing up.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 11:39 PM
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I was ready to get all mad, then I read this guy had 28 prior convictions, plus 9 other charges at this trial? Come on.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 06:19 PM
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... Okay.
/r/MensRights14/12/17 03:17 AM
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You need professional qualifications to be a barber, too. So?
/r/MensRights14/12/17 03:06 AM
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This is a troll account right? It's okay, you can be honest here. But in case you're serious...this is far from anecdotal. And compared to your assertions - for which you don't even provide anecdotes - it's a goddamn dissertation. If you're looking for agreement with your poorly thought out assertions and dismissive attitude, you've come to the wrong place.
/r/MensRights14/12/17 02:58 AM
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Because all documentaries are totally real. /s
/r/MensRights12/12/17 03:10 PM
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This is some of the most naive thinking I've encountered in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:01 PM
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Texas. But I've had the same experience in Vegas, Nola, and Miami. It almost seems like they get disappointed when I'm not touching. Maybe it's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:15 AM
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I've heard of these "no touching" strip clubs, but never seen one. Every club I've been to the dancers to encourage touching. Is that not normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 07:36 AM
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For an example, women requiring commitment as payment for sex seems like an illogical conclusion to me, given that commitment is merely exclusive and continual access to sex with a person. Commitment is definitely exclusive, but not necessarily continual. The requirement is to not have sex with anyone else. Not at all the same as promising continual access to your partner. Sauce: dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:41 PM
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I assume you mean 6' tall... Your list is just shortsighted. I have those things, plus some very limited (but very real) local influence in a metropolitan area. You need much more. If your six figure income is 500k+, and strangers know who you are, you have a shot. You need fame or power for genuine "superstar" game.
/r/askTRP14/11/17 03:27 AM
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I plan on earning my own way out there. The fact that you can say this - as if there is another option - highlights the dynamic at play here. You can choose to earn your own way out there. Men (excepting heirs and lottery winners) don't get that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:22 PM
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Occam's Razor
/r/MensRights21/09/17 01:58 AM
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I don't know if your arguing that only shallow people use Tinder, or that it brings users' shallowness to the forefront. If the first, you're wrong. If the second, that's the point. Given a cloak of semi-anonymity, people tend to let their guards down and stop signaling so much. They swipe right with their actual priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 06:39 PM
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Sure they can. But is it more likely that he managed to Tinder match with over 350 lady Nazis, or that 95% of them put a pin in it because he's hawt? I know Japan was a German ally, but I find it hard to believe that Kuroko is a closet Nazi. But hey, anything's possible, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 06:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure the point is that the dude has a swastika tattoo and quoted (I assume) Hitler. Looks > Nazi fandom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 06:14 PM
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Only on the Internet have I ever experienced anyone who claimed that 'lots of women' approached him. That's all I was "arguing against". I wasn't even arguing. Just chiming in. Sorry, but it can't happen to me because I'm not good looking enough. This is the case for the majority of the population. Assuming you are able-bodied and not had any kind of trauma that affects your looks, odds are you can make yourself attractive enough through fitness and grooming. I've met maybe a handful of men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 11:34 PM
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It is worth considering that if you get approached that is an example of women making themselves available to you. What else would it be? Of course, this doesn't happen to us mere mortals. Not with that attitude!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:11 PM
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It happens, though. Maybe it's your social circle/environment. I'm not remotely famous (barely even memorable, tbh), but I get approached any time I'm at a bar without my SO. If we're out together, I'll get approached about half the time. But in my neck of the woods it's not even unusual for women to approach (remotely attractive) men. There are more of them than us, and they've adapted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 04:24 PM
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Hmm...I always heard it as satire. Same way I think of "Sugar We're Goin Down". ETA: Turns out that's her explanation, FWIW. "That is not my approach to relationships. But is it cool to write the narrative of a girl who's crazy but seductive but glamorous but nuts but manipulative? That was the character I felt the media had written for me, and for a long time I felt hurt by it. I took it personally. But as time went by, I realized it was kind of hilarious."
/r/askTRP10/08/17 07:29 PM
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I'm in a similar situation, just 15 years down the road. I get IOIs from surprisingly attractive girls ten years younger than me on the regular. I'm in an LTR, and sometimes I get curious. But what I'd give up for a little strange is just not worth it. If you keep lifting and stay fit, and get your professional life together, you'll have no trouble banging hot 23 year olds when you're 35. So don't let that worry bother you. If you've got someone who is genuine marriage material, pursue it for a …
/r/askMRP25/02/17 12:06 AM
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J. Crew, GQ Stick to the conservative trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:35 AM
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If you want to find out if she want's to invite you, don't respond. Leave her hanging until the invite comes. No matter what she says. You're going to drop her anyway, so do it now. If she invites you, make other plans, text her after the party started that you're stopping by, and drop in for a half hour, just to be polite.
/r/askTRP02/12/16 05:17 PM
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Unfortunately that requires you to try and actually understand your opponents beliefs from their own perspective. Most people have no interest in doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:22 PM
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That other user was wrong. She didn't text you because most chicks won't text first. She has been trying to get you to ask for her number every time you see her. You finally only acted like half a chicken shit, and allowed her to give it to you without being forward. Text her. Next time, don't give her your number. Don't ask her to lead. You lead.
/r/askTRP30/11/16 03:37 PM
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I'd agree they feel that way, but mainly because they've been taught that the way to get things done is to beg or berate someone else into it. Most of us don't do much work ourselves, but complain about how things aren't being done and wait for someone (usually in the government) to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:23 AM
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You keep talking about "the system" as something separate. What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:22 PM
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No part of that story was beta. He took responsibility for his family, assuming a leadership role to preserve his bloodline. This has no relation to the usual meaning of "raising someone else's children." People showing different traits situationally is normal, and I don't think any healthy man is 100% alpha or beta all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:51 PM
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Maybe it's because when they try to center the conversation on you, you turn it back to them, and they roll with it. I used to do the same. Now I let the other person direct the conversation until I decide I care. And more often than not they spend 20 minutes asking me questions about me - which makes me like myself more - but also makes them another of the faceless, needy wanks I run into every day. It comes off as someone with nothing to offer who's trying to trick you into thinking they're in…
/r/askTRP21/07/16 09:15 PM
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Because they're standing still.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 04:32 PM
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I have a worthless bachelor's. Taught myself web development. My pay went from shit to 6 figures in 5 years. My SO never set foot on a college campus, and is an officer for a bank. Know your skills (or get some), get in the door somewhere, and do more than just show up and follow orders. You'll be fine.
/r/askTRP14/06/16 04:48 PM
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Fuckin' clueless losers, stay home so you don't interrupt our perfection out here in the world. The posts above all say to stop when she says stop. If someone can't comprehend that as adult, you can't blame TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 07:26 PM
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So the people who write the instructions are responsible for actions of those who only half read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 07:21 PM
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6 is coming out this year...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:51 PM
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There's a difference though between legal free speech and cultural free speech. With the former, you can say what you want and not be punished by the government, but social and professional consequences will follow. I don't think this is in much danger at the moment, save for the debates over speech on public college campuses. The latter is tougher though. If speech is policed and restricted to the point that you can't even suggest people talk about Halloween costumes or cultural assumptions or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 08:28 PM
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Bullshit reasons, like "not being qualified", or "not applying".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:25 PM
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Haven't you seen Minority Report? It's the future, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 10:19 PM
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Animal abusers tend to become people abusers. So it makes sense to me. I'm not saying it's okay, but I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 10:17 PM
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That organization is called "gub'ment".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 10:16 PM
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That's a positive feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:49 PM
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I haven't seen this. It is most often women who dismiss male victims, while men tend to not understand that men can actually be victims most of the time. These men tend to be trying to help figure out how to help, but don't realize the dynamic their looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:30 PM
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If this is how you react to people who agree with you, I'm taking my upvote back. I know it hurts...you'll survive .
/r/askTRP11/04/16 04:17 AM
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But coach, don't dem gainz make me valuable? /s
/r/askTRP11/04/16 12:17 AM
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How's that? If they love you because you're boring and immoral, then it fits the definition perfectly. Unless you mean the definition to be "interesting personality and good values". But if you think people can only value interesting personality and "high" moral values, you're mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 06:01 PM
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If you're boring and immoral, you may find love with another boring, immoral person. Or an interesting, moral person that needs an outlet. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:58 PM
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but see the idea of women being submissive as a shortcut to that, or a botch fix to their problem with "insurance" against them cheating. They feel like if women are submissive to them, those women won't be unfaithful; We all know there's no insurance against cheating. It's part of AWALT - not that all women will cheat, but any woman might, and there's no fool proof way to prevent it. Really, they are stunting the depth of their relationships in the process, but they are either okay with that or…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 04:57 PM
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convincing them against their will Are you sure you know what "convince" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:01 AM
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No one brought up "force" but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:32 AM
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What's the point? That TRP is literally an ideology made by people who are irrational and have a selective worldview because they're angry at the world? You just completely made that last sentence up. I'm trying to figure out where in the comments you're responding to you got it, but it's not there...it came straight from your imagination. Based on the three points you just agreed to, TRP is perfectly in line with the sociological patterns behind most feminist and ethnic activist groups. You agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:48 PM
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And that's the easy lie "Society is fucked and nobody is looking out for you. Obviously not the men and not the women who you hold to these high standards." Believing that society is fucked (by feminism/womens behaviour) inherently shifts a lot of blame away from yourself. Next time a women gets a job over you you can just say "affirmative action!". Next time you fail a class taught by a women, it's because "feminism rejected my valid arguments on this test!". Rewriting someone's words like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:39 PM
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you can shift the blame, just like I said. And you can shift the goal posts. You specifically said: "This feeds into the narrative of men not being really at fault for problems in society." But now you're saying it's still blame-shifting because we blame men who are not us. Are you at fault for the problems of society? If you say no, it's blame-shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:14 PM
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The moments are real, but that's all they are. Remember, she's not yours, it's just your turn. You can space those moments out with a plate, or string them together in a relationship. Just don't make the mistake of believing that it can't crash down at any moment. Because it can.
/r/askTRP21/03/16 04:10 PM
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We're counting fingering and blowjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 03:55 PM
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I have heard it about technology. Your argument goes both ways. We don't know what will be lost, but we also don't know what will be gained. The transport industry will be automated, but we don't know what will be created from that. It's inevitable, so fear is pretty much useless. It's not a choice we have, it's a reality we have to deal with. And I'm certain that we will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 02:44 AM
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I'm not somewhere I can watch right now. But I've heard the argument that things are different this time. I've heard that argument about a lot of different things. Never pans out. But let's say it does, and this time is different. We're an incredibly resilient species, and a particularly agile culture. Whatever happens, we'll find a way to thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:39 AM
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Didn't watch, so I'm basing this on your comment. Computers have automated nearly everything they've touched. Along the way they've created new industries, made the previously impossible business successful, and created jobs around them. 250 years of industrial expansion - made possible by automation - hasn't left us all jobless. That next breakthrough won't either. Technology will change the employment landscape, but it's not going to eliminate the low skill market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:17 AM
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It is a lot, but sortable, so it's useful. It backs up what you're saying if you only look at percentages. But a lot of those jobs with high percentage rate increases are small fields or very low paying. Set the minimum median wage to $30k and look at the absolute increase in total jobs (a 10% increase in customer service produces more than twice as many jobs as a 20% increase in medical secretaries). What are the growing jobs? Construction, Electrician, Sales, maintenance, mechanics. The only p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 09:47 PM
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I don't think that stigma plays no role, but a very small one, and only for people who have a concrete and comparable choice: say, retail bank management - a white collar job that has similar pay and require similar education to nursing. But if your choices are child care at $10/hr or landscaping at $18/hr, money is the only factor. And reducing the stigma is fine, I just don't think it will have a massive effect. Even with no stigma, those jobs aren't going to be flooded with male applicants. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:59 PM
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Automation will eliminate jobs, but it usually creates just as many, if not more. Computers + TurboTax + Quickbooks eliminated a lot of bookkeeping work. But now bookkeeping is easier, so less skilled people can do it. And the skilled people who used to become bookkeepers can now be accountants, and those accountants can become CPAs, and those CPAs can become finiancial officers... in the "first world" a construction worker for instance can still get replaced by machines easier than a kindergart…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:47 PM
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You're comparing salaries for degreed pink collar jobs (nursing, teaching) with non-degreed blue collar jobs. Those landscapers and maintenance techs don't have degrees...teacher and nurse weren't in their realm of possibilities. So now they can make $20K cleaning up after someone else's kids, $30K cleaning up other people's houses or offices, or $40K fixing shit. It's a pretty easy choice. and as far as danger goes, men are less risk-averse, and more financially-incentivized.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:34 PM
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Would you be okay with telling people not to stare at disabled children in order not to hurt them? Probably People are likely to be staring at them their whole lives...shouldn't they get used to it early?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:23 PM
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So it's inevitable that men will sexually assault women Um, yes. That should be pretty obvious based on the whole of human history. Women will sexually assault men, too. Murder and theft are pretty much inevitable, as are arguments and broken bones and the flu. and the answer to this is to confine women to the home? If you want stop it from ever happening again? That probably won't even work. As long as there are penises, there will be rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:17 PM
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She's in arrears on support, even one penny, she will not see the kids. Pretty sure this is illegal in a lot of (if not most) states.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:57 PM
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I have my doubts, but if this is real, it's more about how he feels about the mother when they conceive and through the pregnancy. /u/Wolfsouls suggested the paternal instincts don't kick in until the child is born, but I think it's more than that. Personally, my paternal instincts were mild, but really kicked in when my kids started noticing and recognizing me. When they were tiny it was different...just watching out for a helpless human. But when they started to recognize me we started bonding…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:07 PM
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"Your mom and I are fighting" =/= "I hate your mom." I don't agree with the premise either, but at least represent it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:59 PM
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Graduated in 2000, same story.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 09:15 PM
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You are an outlier. Most hot girls are not going for 30 year olds. True-ish. Most attractive people pursue other attractive people, and there are more attractive people in the 18-25 range than the 30-35 range. But people are way less concerned with the fact of age than you seem to think. A hot 22 year old woman doesn't care if the hot guy she met is 23 or 33. She cares that he's hot. And I don't know any guys so enamored by banging a 23 year old that they'd ignore her physical appearance, or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 11:06 PM
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Do you really believe most 30 year olds are in better shape than the average college age male When did I say that? I have no idea what the average college age male looks like. I don't really know what most 30 y/o dudes look like. I do know that in my 30's I have dated and hooked up with 21-23 y/o girls who were hot enough to have any of those muscular 23 y/o bros. it's a question of whether she can get the hot 23 year old which she likely can't if she's saying the only guys she can pursue who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:15 PM
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Paraphrasing: "She's probably fat." Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:30 PM
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You are the trollingest troll I've seen here since taiboworks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 06:29 AM
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But you know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:14 AM
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Are your plates significantly hotter than your ex wife? That would help greatly. Truth. My ex wife was a low 7, but she was my first and hotter than most of my friend's wives/GFs. When a girl who was younger and hotter begged to come over and fuck, took it like a champ, and went home when I told her to, my outlook changed completely. Until then freedom and agency are the best comfort. You control your own life and can do what you want to with it.
/r/askTRP29/02/16 11:17 PM
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We all know fit, well-dressed, socially able dudes suffering either from severe Dry Dick, or who's LTRs walk all over them. Men who should command immense respect - and often do from other men - but when they deal with women they get WAWE'd and white knight themselves right out of their panties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:16 PM
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Did it, it works. I didn't burn it though. I kept it to remind myself what a fucking bitch I was so I don't slip into it again. That's worked too.
/r/askTRP29/02/16 07:52 PM
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Feigning ignorance or stupidity (or actual ignorance/stupidity), a helpless attitude. There are others, but these are the only ones that I see most often in women and rarely in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:40 PM
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Good luck with what? Online dating? My GF would be pretty upset if I started that again. But I gave it up long before I met her because it was garbage. In person is way more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:29 PM
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men constantly bring it up Who? Who are these men? I've never had a conversation about it outside of reddit. And even those conversations were started by some activist complaining about the ubiquity of catcalls all over America with a #YesAllMen tag on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:16 PM
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You get a value add until about 6' with most women (if she's 5'8"+, you'll get a bonus up to probably 6'4"). Beyond that it's all the same to them...they can wear their tallest heels and still be little by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:59 PM
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Of course, you're right. There's no place in the world for simple assertions between people who understand the core concepts. /s I just typed out a response, but it's all so pretentious and irrelevant. The unexamined life might not be worth living, but the overexamined life isn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:41 PM
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Ok, can you point out some of that "serious philosophy" that has a more succinct and relatable way to point out that from any individual's perspective, every other person's inner experience and agency is hidden, leaving him no real way to know if he's a brain in a jar (or a pod in the Matrix, as it were)? No? Neither can I. That's why I think it's "goddamned brilliant".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:45 PM
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This is goddamned brilliant. Did you coin it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:03 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how you can sincerely reduce racism to men being afraid of losing their women. And that it seems to be the exclusive domain of conservative white people. Did you just watch Mandingo? Everyone prefers people like them, it's a survival mechanism. Broad groups - like race - are easy to identify, and the association is automatic. But the tendency gets more an more specific. (See: all fanboy debates on teh interwebz) But hating someone because of their skin color is easier th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:07 PM
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Percentages are tricky, since most of the people I see are basically just shadows in the background. But I'd say I see 20 or so that I'd think are relatively attractive, and 2 or 3 that are beautiful. But I just moved to the 'burbs. When I lived in the city last year, it was more like 75-90 / 20-25. I'm a dude, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:15 AM
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It's funny that TRP almost never advices the guy to maybe look at if he initiates talking, or nice things for his wife. That's because almost everyone who shows up has long exhausted those possibilities before they show up at TRP or MRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 06:36 PM
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Tried it, didn't work. I was 22, though so I guess it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:55 PM
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Bars (not the best), parties/mutual friends (better), charity events, and intramural sports (best by far). Met my current LTR at an event I was running. The relaxed atmosphere and people constantly looking to me for leadership gave me more proof than I had need of. It was too easy. Go places where women are. Join a young professionals or charity group. Get into leadership...and watch the recent grads fight for your attention.
/r/askTRP31/12/15 07:31 AM
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I'm not racist, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:11 AM
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In the US its 18-22. And here, a woman's social standing and appearance far outweigh school and work performance as a measure of quality in most (not all) environments where poverty isn't a threat. Popular + attractive = hiqh quality. Respect and intelligence stratify each level of quality, but they aren't what's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 03:46 PM
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I was not adequately prepared for that second scroll.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/15 11:30 PM
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When I ask for the check. Don't try to be subtle, just say it nonchalant.
/r/askTRP21/12/15 04:26 AM
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There are little tricks, but the biggest thing is being able to handle the looks you'll get (from everyone...your date, the bartender, the girl at the next table) when you say, "no, we're on separate checks." Happens every time. Even get it from my close friends who know better. You just have to get over it.
/r/askTRP20/12/15 10:19 PM
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Did her battery die?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:45 PM
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The idea is not to stand there looking around for an attractive lady to seduce. The idea is not to stand there looking around [creepily] for an attractive lady to seduce. Sitting, looking interested while generally enjoying myself was always my best. Going out with the express intention of meeting a woman for sex or romance isn't a bad idea, you just have to go about it properly. When you do, a five minute chat followed by an invitation to drinks or coffee is usually a winner. But yeah, it's usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:54 AM
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Because they're so eager to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:10 AM
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Looks like your caps lock key is on the fritz. Have you recently spilled Mountain Dew on your keyboard?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:34 AM
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Being direct about going after what you want comes off as thirsty? Ok, bro. You're right about learning someone's character, but if you do that under the guise of friendship, you're going to end up with a friend. You can find out someone's character while dating, with the bonus of not having to go through the "I don't see you that way" conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:29 AM
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This is fair, if vague. The only thing I really disagree with is this bit: try to find friendships and possible relationships If you're looking for a relationship, try to find one. If you try to find friendships, you're going to find friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:48 PM
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This might be the most useless, strategy-free strategy I've ever seen. "Go meet people and you'll eventually find someone." Even without acknowledging differences, this isn't helpful. Where do you meet people? Bars? Work? The park? How do you choose a prospect? How do you make your interest known and judge theirs? Now you've got a relationship...what do you mean by "work"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:34 PM
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However, I wouldn't be caught dead fucking someone who thinks any sort of sex is "dehumanizing." It's a dick, not a weapon of mass destruction. Sex is sex and can't take away a person's humanity or degrade them. Remember that we live in a world where telling college students that they should speak up if they're offended by a Halloween costume invalidates their very existence. So the cock as WMD is probably not that far afield.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:56 PM
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Starbucks cups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 06:57 AM
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Hopefully you can get a few people with decent pull to click “attending” as this can help the herd swing in your favor. I always get these people hyped way ahead, and they do my promotion for me. If you can get 3 or 4 friends who can bring in 3 or 4 other people each, it makes your job easier. And the hype is more credible because it's not all coming from you. I have a couple annual parties, and now I have new acquaintances ask me about them months ahead of time, because the hype comes from othe…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 08:44 PM
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That's too late for NYE, at least in my area. We just booked yesterday and are announcing on Monday. That said, I'm expecting ~100 people, so it might be a totally different situation. But a good rule is give 5-6 weeks for major holidays (July 4th, Memorial Day, NYE).
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 08:33 PM
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What are your thoughts on "complicated" themes. Stuff like a dark party? Where you turn off all the house lights and leave them off, everyone has to bring their own light sources. Get a basket of 99 cent LED flashlights and put them by the door. Some people will bring their own and stand out...but no one gets left out of the theme.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/15 08:28 PM
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Can confirm. Was that man. It was indeed very bad sex, which quickly turned to no sex. She said to our therapist, "I'd be ok if we never had sex again." I sensed an implied /s in your reply, hopefully I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:13 PM
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Because "any ol' commitment" typically translates to "bad sex." Fair point. But only if they actually have sex. In a lot of cases, it actually translates to "no sex". Because it was bad, so none is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:55 PM
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Most women prefer singledom with her red wine and books over being in a "just because" relationship with a person she doesn't like. Assuming this can be amended to the much more practical "a person she's not that attracted to", I don't really see this a lot. In the social circles I've been privy to, most of the women were either in relationships that they would self-evaluate as <6 on a 10 point scale, or single and unhappy about it. I know two who say they'd rather be single than settling. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:48 PM
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At 16 you have to be careful with your technique because you're probably still growing. Other than that, you're body is basically biologically tuned for gains for the next few years, considering things like elevated levels of growth hormone through puberty and adolescence. So just don't burn out. Sounds like you have that part figured out. But if you want guidance, ask your school's strength training/football/wrestling coach. He'll probably be happy to help. And know more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:27 PM
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PPL, 6 sessions a week, basketball and volleyball at least two days. DDD on Fridays (Drink, Drank, Drunk). Red.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 04:46 AM
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Because in your 20s the mere act of sitting on a weight bench will give you gainz, and recovery is as simple as closing your eyes and tossing back a PBR. But really, unless you're competing, youth allows you to worry less about your routines and just think about your volume. Age means you have to be more careful mindful. Broscience to the rescue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:22 PM
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You just spent a lot of energy refuting something I didn't say. TRP isn't trying to maintain the stairs quo. Just trying to win. If the status quo changes, TRP will adjust. Also, I have a lot of straight white male friends, and they would disagree with your contention that they occupy unearned positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:34 PM
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RP is just about winning, status quo is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:32 PM
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If you want to argue that these aren't real issues, go for it. But if you're gonna call it an excuse because you don't like it, you're definitely trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:08 PM
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You really think it's chauvinism to expect the high earner to pay alimony? To call out the people who would be totally accepting, and probably in favor of the support in a gender-swapped situation? You probably do. What a waste of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:24 PM
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You're right, it is incredibly toxic and misogynistic to think a wealthy woman should pay alimony to her ex-husband. this post making it so high onto the RP subreddit is also why it's easy for us to pair Red Pill and the Men's Rights Movement I hope the 'Men's Rights' flair on the post helped you make that connection. Would've hated for you to miss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:22 PM
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So, in general, you're arguing in favour of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:49 AM
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👍
/r/MensRights17/10/15 11:18 PM
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You said: That would mean that female orgasms have not that many connections to consent, which would be strange. So, in your estimation, it would be weird if there was little correlation between orgasm and consent. I said that, based on the prevalence of ravishment fantasies, it wouldn't be weird [if there was little correlation between orgasm and consent]. I did not say that "women have more orgasms when raped"; that would be a negative correlation (more orgasms - less consent). So, finally: "'…
/r/MensRights17/10/15 12:02 AM
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This was my first thought when I saw that line earlier today.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 08:17 PM
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You actually think that women have more orgasms when raped, because of their rape fantasies? Did I say that? So when I said "it wouldn't be weird" that there's no correlation, I actually meant that there's a negative correlation between orgasms and consent? I guess you logic better than me.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 08:13 PM
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The point is that "one of women’s most popular erotic fantasies is being raped." So it wouldn't be weird that orgasms don't have that many connections to consent.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 07:13 PM
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That would mean that female orgasms have not that many connections to consent, which would be strange No it wouldn't.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 06:34 PM
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So, what you're saying is, to go to the place where you work toward one aspect of having life together is to pretend you already have it together? You don't logic too good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 09:50 PM
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A person doesn't choose to have ambition. They either have it, or they don't. Nice job excluding from your quote the part where I said ambition develops. And yeah, you can choose to be ambitious. It goes like this: I want that thing; I'll have to work for it; I don't wanna; but I really want it; ok, I'll do the work; I'm ambitious! Look at that. A set of decisions leading to ambitious action.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 07:27 PM
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If a man plays video games all day, lives in his parents' basement, and works at McDonald's, then he has no ambition in life. A person either has ambition or they don't. You can't fake it. If a man who was played vidya in the basement for years decides to get fit and improve his life, the correct phrase would be "he had no ambition." Sometimes ambition develops. Sometimes it fades. It's not an immutable constant. Just getting out of his parents' basement isn't going to change anything. His behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 07:03 PM
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Both Red Pill Men and Red Pill Women need to change their attitude, not pretend to be someone else. Yet you refer to those attitude changes, i.e. holding frame, as "pretending". Attitudes don't just change, you have to learn new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:44 PM
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You were going to quote something racist...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:42 PM
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Her husband of 25 years did not attend court, but provided a reference saying he was “so proud” to be part of her life. /s?
/r/MensRights14/10/15 02:15 PM
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And that equals an offer of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:15 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't mean him asking for your number is offering sex. No more so than your giving it to him is you offering him sex. See how that works? Yeah, it's likely that he'd smash. But that doesn't make it an offer of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:57 PM
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Don't know the show, because I'm not in Canada, but it sounds like Shark Tank. From a quick perusal of the CBC site...every single entrepreneur brings product to the show. They don't show up with an idea...they show up with product. Which means they've already gotten started on the design and manufacturing. Maybe they want to hire better designers and engineers, but they already have enough expertise to get started.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:29 PM
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Yeah, but he didn't actually offer it to you. He might have, given the opportunity, though. But that doesn't really sound like NiceGuy<sup>TM</sup> m.o.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:23 PM
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"no thank you" to sex with him He: "Ma'am, would you like to have sex with me?" She: "No, thank you." This happens all the time, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:45 PM
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Very true. But does the CEO personally do all the design work? Or do they hire design teams for that? Existing companies? Yes, they hire people. But that wasn't at all the point of my comment. That's not how it works. If anyone is going to get a steak in your company it'll be investors, not the people you hire to design your products. I think you meant "stake". (I could use a steak right now, though) And "investors" bring "capital", that's how they get a "stake". But you don't have capital or in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:38 PM
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That's quite a good story. Let's examine some things. If you have this idea, you don't need to know every step of the process, but you will need to, at the very least, design something. All those companies you mention that go through FoxConn? That's what they do...design shit. Sure, you can go hire someone to design it, and then someone to put together the manufacturing process, and then someone to manufacture it, while you go make sales. But if you don't come with capital (and most don't) those…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:28 PM
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Do you think the CEO of Coke can prepare the ingredients and make the drink? When it was a startup? Yes. We're talking entrepreneurship, not business leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:30 PM
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The liberal girls you find on reddit These are your standard bearers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:58 AM
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No one said he was a stud in high school. Maybe he was, but that's not really the point here, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:55 AM
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You're point stands. I was confused because we were talking about their disadvantage as 30-somethings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:22 PM
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Mostly agree, but these women didn't all delay settling down in order to pursue a career. Sounds like plenty of them consciously choose to play around, because they could settle down with the perfect man later...only to find they couldn't. If it really was about career, though, then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 05:02 PM
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Well aren't you special.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:58 PM
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No, it just has nothing to do with getting romantic/sexual attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:58 PM
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Advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:52 PM
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Literally LOL'd reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:54 PM
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I'm curious if you'll ever stop playing psychological games here like there's some sort of prize won for the best gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:48 PM
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I think we agree on all that. But my question would be about your phrase, "if my partner said I was okay looking..." Why did he say it? Is he a socially unskilled or uncouth jerk? Did you ask and he answered? Did he say, "you're great," but you didn't believe him so you kept asking until you got the full answer? That all matters. In the first case, assuming he said it seriously, I say he's a little 'spergy. In the other two, why ask? You asked an unnecessary question, creating the scenario where…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:46 PM
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they use the same exact terminology. All that demonstrates is that someone carried it over from one to the other. what internal psychological problems does red pill address? Is this that game where you pretend that no one has ever answered that question before, and then try to force me to rehash the most basic shit like you haven't been trolling here for months? I'm not playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:32 PM
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Get the word "many" out of this discussion. It's meaningless. Give me numbers. 100? 1000, 10000? Evidence of this oscillation? And RP deals exactly with the "internal psychological problems." That's what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:01 PM
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But I don't. You are just kinda putting words in my mouth here. Totally aware of that...did it on purpose. You think society has a generally accepted idea what the perfect partner is. I don't. I didn't say "the perfect partner" (did you intentionally put those words in my mouth?). I said "generally accepted cultural standards". That leaves plenty of room for your 9.5 to be someone else's 7. But you're 2 is unlikely to be someone else's 8 (assuming they're considering all people, and not just the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:53 PM
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What traits are and aren't attractive seem to vary wildly. How important those traits are vary widely. Just wanted to point out that goalpost movement. How important those things are is only relevant when they're missing. If a guy is a little shorter, but has the rest is he an 8 or 9? But that's irrelevant. What we agree on is the traits, and that the guy who has all of them is a 10, and the one who has none of them is a 1. The guy who has most? An 8. He who has few, a 3. Thanks for agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 07:51 PM
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Yes, there is much dispute over whether it's attractive for a man to be tall, fit, muscular, symmetrical, socially skilled, wealthy, and high status. People argue over that shit all the time. Just like they argue over whether being thin, smooth skinned, caring, and demure is attractive for women. Opinions on those things just vary so widely. Look, we all know that Tom Brady is better than me, and Giselle is better than you. Even though he's not a microbiologist and she's not a boardroom leader, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 07:24 PM
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One of my biggest complaints with SMV is how linear it is made out to be. A woman might dislike my boyfriend because he has acne, is a cheap bastard, not willing to provide, loves video games and cartoons, ect... And to her, he might be a 4. But all of those qualities in him are things that I love. And I don't think this is rare. Tastes vary, but it's well accepted that there are generally agreed cultural standards in the SMP. If your boyfriend, as described (I assume there are many good things …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 07:04 PM
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That's a fair point, if you're really awesome. I will assume you are for purposes of this discussion. What about that couple where they're both 3.5/10. Would you still expect him to put her in the 80-90th centile? Of course not. Do you think neither of them would've bagged a 5 (overall SMV, not just appearance) if it were possible? Of course they would. It's just reality. Now, if he said "a lot of women were overall better, and he settled for me because he couldn't get [them]," that would be an …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 05:48 PM
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If he thought that a lot of women were overall better, and he settled for me because he couldn't get, that would be another story. But we all know that's true for nearly everyone. Unless he's that one guy who's never been dumped, ghosted, or stood up. And then he saw you... When we were kids we learned that one person couldn't have everything. That the other guys may be more athletic, but you're smarter. That other girls may be prettier, but you have a better personality. But the world doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:41 PM
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I mean, would you want your partner to describe their attraction to you as okay? Sexual performance as okay? To me okay is about the same as it will do. A few steps above meh. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be someones meh. If I am all those things...like around the new year when I was overweight, out of shape, and lazy...I absolutely want her to tell me. Usually those are fixable things. Get fit, learn some new sexytime moves, up your game. Now you're no longer ok, you're good. Pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:10 PM
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Deserve's got nothing to do with it. Everyone is someone's second best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:04 PM
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Dad has a BS in Mass Comm, mom has her MBA. Probably would have done more, but graduating black and poor in the 60's made that difficult. All my siblings have at least 2 degrees. 90% RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 03:50 PM
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He ended up with a major in artillery during a year-long involuntary study abroad program in Southeast Asia. That's poetic as balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 03:38 PM
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As in, he teaches people how to drive trains. Are you saying he's a conductor instructor? Apparently conductors don't actually drive the trains. But dad joke is still relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 03:32 PM
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That falls under the umbrella of "money making scheme", rather than a correllation between sluttiness and love of FPS. OP was saying that regular slutty chicks play those games. Not something I've seen.
/r/askTRP30/09/15 09:00 PM
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On the same scope, a lot of sluttier women play masculine games like FPS (first person shooter) games. I don't see this a lot. Is it possible this is tied to your social arena? Or am I missing something?
/r/askTRP30/09/15 07:29 PM
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Sure, we're against being a "gentleman", but not against being an actual gentleman. Taste, class, style, tact, leadership. Gentlemanly qualities, that I hope to see in a future son-in-law.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:47 PM
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NARPALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:45 PM
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The day I meet a jaded 13 y/o I'm turning out the lights on this motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 02:40 AM
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Reading is hard...can't we just glance at stuff and guess what it means instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:02 PM
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It's pretty well accepted in RP that celebrities don't count. Call it what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:01 AM
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But the fact that such sentiment only matters if men agree says something about how you see the world. When it comes to how men talk with other men, then yeah, the only opinions that matter are those of other men. Have a problem with that if you want, but how much does the opinion of men matter at 2XC? Also, typical locker room banter does not include lamenting that women can vote and discussing how they are inherently, by their very nature, broken children. It does. Because sometimes it's fun. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:30 PM
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Puny god.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 10:07 PM
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Did you just dadjoke your own dadjoke?
/r/askTRP14/09/15 10:16 PM
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I admire your purpose, but taking down a few sites - however big or numerous - won't tear down the entrenched cultural narrative that birthed them. I didn't get the shitty archive from the web...shitty online advice didn't exist yet. This is widespread advice that can't be eliminated directly. It has to be overwhelmed and pushed from the marketplace of ideas. Edit: autocorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 04:17 AM
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So basically, the difference between the "tips and tricks" you referred to and TRP is that you don't like TRPs advice. That's perfectly acceptable, but don't try to paint it as something different. It's exactly what you just described (when it comes to tactics). If "who you are" is a boring, needy, emotion draining loser, changing is required. Being that self is most certainly not enough. But you don't get it. If you're not aloof, that usually signals a character flaw - scarcity mentality and ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:19 PM
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Memorizing a bunch of "rules & regulations" on how to interact with women only makes your interactions insincere and awkward which, BTW, most women can pick up on pretty quickly. You seem to think that learning the rules and conventions of social interaction means memorizing scripts. You're wrong. That's usually what is meant when someone is labeled a 'creep.' Creeps are guys who are following a formula to get laid, rather than being genuine No, creeps are guys who do this clumsily. Or who can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:36 PM
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This is a nice codification of the advice and tactics that RP is completely against. Success by "rules" would be hollow. Follow your heart. If you want a "real" relationship rules won't work. Now just be yourself. There are "rules", it's called social convention. You're simply wrong on this point. Social convention doesn't apply to every woman, but it applies to enough of them to make it worth learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:17 PM
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Then they should stop giving advice and just say that. It would be a hell of a lot less destructive than, "Be an Ally", or "Vulnerability is Sexy". But as long as feminists give dating advice, your statement is irrelevant. inb4 "No true feminist" and "Just because a feminist said it doesn't mean feminism."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:52 PM
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Nice dismissal. They aren't the sources, they are simply repositories of advice that is widespread and consistently given by multiple sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:47 PM
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and the first question (some) men can think to ask it The first question asked just 150 years later...yeah, that checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:00 PM
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The more you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:10 PM
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Being fit, attractive, and white tends to make life significantly easier for men and women in the US. It's not a gender specific thing. Since you can't control the last two, being fit is always good advice. Unless you want to play life on Hardcore mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:03 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:58 PM
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I meet new people on a pretty regular basis. Some of them are good people, most have decent ethics in minor conflicts, have fairly consistent moral compasses, and are unlikely to betray their closest few friends. But few meet the standard above when under any scrutiny. So one of two things is true: either your standards are so remarkably low that it's nearly impossible to fall short, or the people where you live are simply better than the people where I live. I don't know the answer. But we live…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:55 PM
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As and shitty deflection expert, I trust your assessment of this scenario. But /u/cantpleaseanyone is right. Learning moves from general to specific. It's good praxis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:45 PM
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Your persistent naivete is awe-inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:40 PM
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Will that ever actually make them happy if they're doing stuff they don't want to do? Everybody has to do stuff they don't want to do to be able to do stuff they enjoy or get what they want. But this option (a personality overhaul) is shunned, because people can't be happy unless they're totally being "themselves". Much as I hate Hitch, he was right. "You" is a very fluid concept right now. "You" bought the shoes; "you" look great in the shoes. That's the "you" I'm talking about. You want someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:31 PM
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Nice goalpost shift there...almost didn't see it. It's unfortunate men's only options are MRA And TRP because both are pretty embarrasing to most men and arent really the right way to go about it. The ones that are embarrassed are the betas who think they can get chicks by being "allies", and standing up for women. Their embarrassment is meaningless to me. And I'm less than interested in what you think is the "right way to go about it," because we are at cross purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:20 PM
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Nah, there was casual sex, but it was something women blushed about. It wasn't just an accepted part of the social structure like it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:58 PM
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Is that not obvious? ETA: men get a bigger boost from the "other than looks" department, but it's a factor for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:36 PM
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I know you have some red pill theory or whatever that you expect this to conform to, but in this case it doesn't. My "red pill theory" is that the market sets the price. He's routinely getting 7s? Then he must be about a 7. Or if he's a hard 3, and the chicks he bangs look like 7s, their SMV must be suffering from some other shortcoming. You said in another comment that they're all crazy. That lowers a girl's value, even if she's pretty. So, like I said: his SMV is either higher than you think, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:57 PM
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If A is sleeping with attractive women, his SMV is either higher than you think, or he's banding better looking but equally low SMV women. So he's probably in his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:36 AM
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I'm calling bullshit on that. There's no way that's possible. I mean, if that's how you want to play it. But you're obviously not from here, so I don't know where you get your certainty from. Also isn't America all hands off when it comes to what a parent does to its child? Nooooope. 30-40 years ago? Sure...maybe. I wasn't there. Now? Not a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:55 PM
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Your mom sounds pretty helpful. But if you grew up in my school and anyone found out she said stuff like that, the school counselor would have had her in for a meeting straight away. And in that meeting would have made sure you knew you were good enough just as you are, and love would find you. Just be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:24 PM
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You must be new here...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:14 PM
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are you going to hang out in highly radioactive areas and see if you can beat those odds too? If I thought I could realistically become a superhero and had little to lose by being wrong? Sure. couple with the biggest variable for divorce (marrying young) they are not as impressive. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8331027/Couples-who-marry-young-are-most-likely-to-divorce.html[1] That's not what your article (Telegraph? Really?) says. It says among all age groups, 25-29s are most likely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 08:13 PM
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because obesity is more of an intrinsically determined thing. 5'10", 200 lb. is not obese. It's overweight. And it was a phase that lasted about 2 years for her. most people can't even captain themself to become xyz, much less a separate person. Well, if most can't do it, I might as well not even try. your results suggest a good reason to delay marriage/family. the stats bear that out, young people that get married are far more likely to get divorced. You're really going to take one variable and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 07:32 PM
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gaining 60lbs while pregnant is not what a normal healthy female does. Well no shit. It is a reasonable expectation of what an exceptionally tall, unhappy woman does, though. women that care about fitness/healthy don't make excuses, don't become overweight, you selected poorly. People make excuses about all kinds of shit. And their priorities may or may not change as their circumstances change. And why are you so hell bent on proving that I chose poorly, rather than led poorly? Are you suggestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:50 PM
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Yeah, did that. You know women gain wait when they get pregnant, right? And many use that as an excuse to keep the weight on afterward? Just making sure you exist in the real world. Also, when you marry a 5'10", 140 lb. 19-year-old (with the aforementioned genetic advantages), you're doing all you can. As I said. Shit happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:10 PM
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you understand not everyone operates like this. i'm guessing you think all women do operate like this though. So when we say women are deceptive, you all say we're misogynists. When we chalk it up to the hamster, you say NAWALT...this one was deceptive. Ok. sounds like you were a loser with a loser, and one or both of you was unhappy about that. many losers are fine with other losers though. I mean, you're right...but your statement is pretty pointless. I'll pretend it served a purpose, though. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 06:01 PM
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even according to you, she was unconsciously deceptive. This is what I referred to as "internal rationalization". She deceived herself first, and couldn't help but deceive me. do you really believe she was never aware that she was not physically attracted to you enough? "convince themselves that the stability/provisioning/character of the man makes up for the lower level of attraction". So she was aware of the low level, but convinced herself it was "enough". is the issue that you declined in at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:47 PM
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You've got to be intentionally missing the point here. i agree it shows that you have poor judgement, but are you honestly saying a female or male that is deceptive to someone doesn't have their own psychological issues? There's a reason I scare-quoted "deceived". Because she didn't intentionally deceive me. Since I know you've paid attention to the conversation about female mating strategies, you know that women who marry BB are somewhat attracted, and convince themselves that the stability/pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:33 PM
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Well, it was my fault she "deceived" me in the first place, because I wasn't on my game as I should have been. Once I get on my game, that "unhealthy dyad" will change. We're not talking about a woman who lied, cheated, stole, exploited, etc. She's not evil, she's just not attracted. I'm not sure what your angle is here...why don't you make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:18 PM
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I'm not talking "winning over", like I'm the protagonist in a 90's teen movie. I'm talking about winning....getting what I want. In this case, the goal would be gaining the admiration and desire of someone I've already married. i'm all for being more attractive, just not to someone (red pill would say) conned/deceived you. If I become more attractive in general, I'll be more attractive to her. But even then, most men who get stuck as BB in marriages entered in good faith, and - all things being …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:58 PM
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You're saying it like you're supposed to choose RP or fitness, grooming, and social skills. That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:24 PM
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Rp tells men in man language how women communicate differently and does a decent job of explaining how to interpret some of it into man language. +1 for "man language".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:01 PM
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He just told you...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:00 PM
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Short answer: because winning. Long answer: Finding someone who "loves/appreciates/accepts me for me" is not much of a life goal, IMO. It's not an aspiration. It's not even comforting. It's basically saying, "I'm mediocre, but rather than improve to the point that I'm worthy of admiration, I'm going to look for someone who isn't bothered by my mediocrity." Not for me. And I can't help but have a little less respect for anyone who embraces their mediocrity. The alternative is to aim for excellenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:59 PM
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They are the definition of social proof if you're under 50 20. FTFY.
/r/askTRP02/09/15 06:28 PM
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Unattached =/= promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:59 AM
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This is parallel, not serial. Carry on.
/r/askTRP31/08/15 06:00 PM
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PR = Personal Record
/r/askTRP28/08/15 01:58 PM
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Wow... You're really good at missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:58 AM
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Redirect the conversation or leave.
/r/askTRP27/08/15 06:42 AM
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Can confirm. Bitches love me.
/r/askTRP27/08/15 02:00 AM
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We were just having a good time, then you had to come over here with this shit... I didn't make any statistical claim. I was just laying my (big) dick on the table and seeing if anyone wanted to compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 08:49 PM
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I am pretty limber...I'm proud of that. But in this case: "This phrase is not JUST about women! But in this case it's about women, sure" FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 08:35 PM
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I didn't say "all people are dangerous". All people are potentially dangerous. You know, "it's the quiet ones you gotta watch." But you gotta watch the noisy ones too. In fact, just watch everyone. You don't know which friend, family member, lover, etc is capable of harming you until they do it. So consider all risks. Decide which are acceptable. Live life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 08:34 PM
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That's cool, as long as you know that 22 (especially if you're emerging from four years on campus) is still incredibly young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 07:11 PM
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that they fear black guys stealing their women. They should, we're good at it. And getting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 07:10 PM
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Tu quoque?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:57 PM
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Are you suggesting that 22 isn't young?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:56 PM
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Being a Red Piller is all about being anxious about women in some form or another. If you don't have any anxiety about women, there's no reason to take the pill. Sure. Equating women to guns in the phrase "treat all guns as loaded" is pretty indicative of the Red Pill mentality when it comes to women in general. Personally, this isn't a thing about women. It's about people. All people are potentially dangerous, and nearly everyone has been betrayed by someone they never expected it from. But RP …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:53 PM
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It's not about bottling them up, it's about being careful about who you share them with, when, and how intensely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:13 AM
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Cosign.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:14 PM
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I have now...and I'll never forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:42 PM
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I don't get why people get so surprised about my age. It's because your comments read like you're a defeated 35 year old, prepped to live out her life in solitude...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:14 PM
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Geraldo?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:11 PM
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I'm intelligent enough to know that 'ad hominem' refers to attacking the authority of the person with whom you are arguing, I was simply making fun of you. That makes you not very smart, since ad hom is attacking the person's character, not their authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:23 PM
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For NSA sex? Yeah. Commitment? Not likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:53 AM
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Holy shit...I don't think I've ever seen a mind changed on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:22 AM
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Sooo...NAWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:20 AM
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Most of these are feminism in theory, but not in practice. Feminism in practice says Managing a household is fine, but unless you have some other educational or professional achievement, you're participating in your own subjugation, and "turning back the clock". Men are no better or worse than women, but, you know, you should be careful around men because they're dangerous and lack self control. [Your third point has nothing to do with OP's comment about women being incapable of functioning with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:16 PM
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Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 12:56 AM
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Are these different randos, or your friends and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:23 PM
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The fact is the black community has some serious problems and absolutely no one since Malcolm-X has any interest in fixing them. There is just too much money in leaving things the way they are. Though that part of the statement is (mostly) true, it has little to do with police behavior toward unarmed people. I mentioned it in another comment...poverty is the common thread, not race. It's not black-on-black crime that's significant - it's poor-on-poor crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 09:01 PM
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I'm not asking when the last time you heard "a rant", I'm asking how much time has passed since you "heard that kind of sentiment all the time". Different question altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:55 PM
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For every one of those I would bet there are tens of thousands more who support them in spirit. And I'd bet there aren't. Who's right? Or perhaps there are "thousands", but what's a few thousand in a group of a few hundred million? Beyond that, what about this: Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, said there's no record of Oath Keepers' engaging in political violence and that the group is mainly driven by anti-government views. "The core ideas of these groups relate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:49 PM
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Are you suggesting that the Oath Keepers aren't a rarity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:23 PM
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I (a white guy) has been pulled over while driving drunk in my Infiniti You should stop doing that... But it's activism that caused that change of affairs. Again, you're right. But - aside from thinking that #BLM is stupid - activism's past effectiveness doesn't automatically mean that its continuation in those forms is the best way forward. As times change, responses must change. BLM is old style activism better suited to a time/place when you have to convince the masses of the value of the cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:16 PM
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So you think #BLM is just a big waste of time? Yes. See: them acting like jackasses at the Sanders event; also one of my friends, whose views I disagreed with but respected, has become an insufferable asshat with no discernible sense of reason. Yeah, and you know why they stopped? Pressure from community activists like Al Sharpton and company. Pretty sure that's exactly what I said. This animal's head is Al Sharpton. Or Jesse Jackson. Maybe it has two heads. Yeah, it's exactly what I said. No on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:30 PM
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That's great if true. But what created the political climate? Things like "black lives matter." Nah, #BLM is the spikes on the tail. This animal's head is Al Sharpton. Or Jesse Jackson. Maybe it has two heads. As far back as Rodney King (the first major incident I'm old enough to remember), it has become more and more acceptable, common, and encouraged to take any racial grievance to the media. And the burden of proof on the accuser has become lighter and lighter. Those are good things. It's no …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:24 PM
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but I'm always wary of someone writing from a POV they themselves have never experienced. Like I said, I can get on board with that. Plus, the entire point of musical theatre is that it's an exaggerated, fantastical version of real life. To use a song from a musical as proof of a real-world phenomenon can only be described as silly. It's exaggerated for sure (realistic fiction bores me to tears). But exaggerated from reality. Alpha widowhood isn't about women emotionally pining for an idealized …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:15 AM
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Obligatory disclaimer I: Police brutality happens and is bad. Obligatory disclaimer II: I'm a large, intimidatingly built black male who lives in the south. On to my point: The political climate all but guarantees - even demands - that every real or perceived incident will be reported to the media. Cops here are required to wear body cams. People everywhere are recording everything. What are the odds that there are incidents happening and not getting reported?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:12 AM
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He was raised in Detroit by a single mom who dropped out of school in 3rd grade. I'll let you decide if he was likely in a poor neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:43 AM
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TIL < 10 cases nationally over the course of a year qualifies as an "epidemic".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:36 AM
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For lifting I use Bodybuilding.com and the Bodyspace app. The community is good, there's a lot of advice, and recommended workouts depending on your goals.
/r/askMRP12/08/15 09:02 PM
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So all female descriptions of male emotions and motivations are necessarily suspect...because they're written by women? I can get on board with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:48 PM
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I mean, you're not wrong. I was just having a little fun with you, because of the word choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:35 PM
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As for the rest of it, I genuinely don't experience a gender difference in a)length of time it takes a person to decide whether or not to connect with emotionally (in fact if you pushed me I would say men do this more frequently than women) and B)willingness to dump emotions on other people - this, too, is something I think men are more prone to. I have definitely experienced more men than women doing this in my own life. My experience and exposure to the experiences of others leads me to disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:33 PM
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I'm about 60% on board with this. Getting pissed and hostile at women merely because they're just as bad as men is not "justified". Exaggerating and being hostile and unfair is never a good political tactic because it gives your opponent an easy way to dismiss you. Anger is natural when you get railroaded. It's also a natural stage of grief. Most of the anger and genuine hostility (in and around TRP) comes from those that are still grieving. Exaggeration (hyperbole) is a useful device in argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:14 PM
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That's why no one on the outside really believes its existence is about protecting any legitimately lacking rights of men. My only contention is that there aren't a lot of people on the inside who believe this either. That's /r/MensRights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 05:04 PM
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You get to know people. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? You simply...get to know people. It's not difficult to understand, but to empathize. For women it's hard to empathize with men who immediately decide who they'll fuck and take forever to decide who they'll be emotionally connected to. For men it's hard to empathize with women who will dump their emotions on near to anyone, but are very selective and deliberate about who gets to see them naked. I'm not a special snowf…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:36 PM
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This snaps the reports of success by women here into focus. Every time they saw it work, it worked. But they don't see Beta Barry going home to jerk it to her Facebook page and cry himself to sleep. Of course, because he was just her good friend. He didn't pursue her and fail, he was like a brother to her! I mean, he did ask her out once, but when she said she didn't see him that way, they stayed friends, so it wasn't a big deal. It doesn't count. It really doesn't. Really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:24 PM
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He who hesitates, masturbates. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:20 PM
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Because most guys in their early 20s are good looking Is this real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:19 PM
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Writing long response- Ha, a lot of useless wall of text. Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:30 PM
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I don't care about the distinction. Understand it just fine, though, thanks. ...it's hard for you to believe that someone could understand what you're saying, but either disagree or think it irrelevant. not that I don't believe anyone could understand. As you can see, I didn't say that. Let me say it positively: you don't think it possible that someone who understands could disagree with you. That's something you're going to have to learn to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 07:49 PM
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I used to get asked to help people move about once a month a couple years ago. My response every time was, "You're a grown ass [wo]man. Hire movers." I said it enough that the last time I got asked, someone else answered for me.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 07:19 PM
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"I on the other hand have done my part by having a vagina and hence don't need to provide anything other than the possibility of future sex". Am I the only RPer that thinks this interpretation is off base? I didn't read the AMA, but did she imply that she wouldn't have to do anything? So her ideal date is to sit around and talk...there's nothing wrong with that. Hell, it makes life way easier. We can assume she at least plans to be engaged. I always assumed the same thing as Rousey's actual answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:29 PM
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This was super smooth. I don't care about the distinction, but you twist it to me not caring (because I'm not able) to understand. Niiiice. But wrong. I get that it's hard for you to believe that someone could understand what you're saying, but either disagree or think it irrelevant. But it really can happen. Learn to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:03 PM
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It's entirely relevant, you just can't get your head around it. Is it that hard to believe that someone can wrap their head around your incredibly pointless and arcane explanations, and yet disagree? Talk about ego (in this sense, I mean vanity, obv). Ugh. You're just continuously showing that you can't get your head around this. People, when free from ego, seek human connection, and yes there is an implicit validation that comes from this, but they aren't seeking that validation. I said, "Norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:00 PM
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Yeah, you've spent a lot of time explaining it. It's still not relevant. What the argument was about was whether normal people need validation from others. You keep bringing up ego, when I don't care. You can explain it all you want, it won't become relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 02:51 PM
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I don't care that it's not the ego. You keep hiding behind it, like it's practically relevant which part of the psyche gets the payoff. It's not. Here you have conceded my point. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:37 PM
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I go to bakeries because I like cake. Does that put cake on the pedestal? Though cake does look even more delicious on a pedestal. I'm hungry now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 03:00 AM
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I can care about anyone's feelings and have no idea who they are. There's not really any way for me to convince you that this is true, but just assume it is for the sake of argument. My point is the double standard you set. You can leave people who provide no value out of your life, yet still care. I must be a narcissist who only cares for people because of what they provide me. I get no validation from anyone, not even really myself (and the validation from myself wouldn't be worth the cost I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 02:59 AM
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But you can't have your cake and eat it too. A human connection may be valuable to someone but as soon as you seek validation for your worth you're pandering to your ego, which isn't necessary. I've been repeating this over and over. You've had to repeat it because it's not really relevant, but you're trying to make it so. Normal people don't seek validation for its own sake. But their need for acceptance is tied to the need for validation. They seek acceptance because it is necessary. It fulfil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 02:55 AM
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How? I can still care about a person's well being but see that they provide no value to me. Ah, so when you chose only to associate with those who provide you value, you still care about them, so it's cool. I get it. The value provided is human connection, like how food and water have value to me. Let's not trivialise real value. No one did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:34 PM
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"If alphas are not defined by their pursuit of women, why does TRP place so much emphasis on the pursuit of women?" Because pussy. But the most obvious refutation of your point is the existence of MRP and MGTOW. And the fact that it seems like most of the RP men posting in PPD are in LTRs. God damn that was a lot of acronyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 08:07 PM
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So the only reason you care about other people is because you get validation for it? That is narcissistic behaviour. Then... I have no interest in talking to people with big egos, because they provide no value for me. Dat cognitive dissonance, tho...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 08:01 PM
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Those are mainly unstable, low quality people, otherwise they would not divorce The logic is strong with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:56 PM
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Sure, but that means that you are letting other people (society) the government decide over your life and they are getting away with it. FTFY. it always takes two people to end up in a divorce. I'm baffled that an adult (who I assume lives in the West?) can hold this belief. Equipped with red pill knowledge you should know how to behave as a man in marriage. And also know the risks of attempting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:54 PM
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I'm not missing the point at all. The only thing you need is human connection which doesn't require the validation of your ego. There's really no other way for me to put it. A) Human connection implies validation (i.e. people are unlikely to remain connected to someone they don't like, given viable alternatives). B) The point that you're missing is that I didn't say that. I said nothing about ego, or about high esteem. You did. You keep throwing conditions on what I said to invalidate it. At lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:41 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:21 PM
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It means that your argument that "dating is fun and not a waste of time" is not 100% correct. It's usually fun all by itself "Usually". Not "always". But yeah, I never found it to be a waste of time, even when it wasn't fun. Which was pretty rare, anyway. Yeah, some guys, maybe. But most in TRP would hold onto the main plate and consider upgrading her, if she were that good. If that is the end goal of most people in TRP, then why is there so much focus on short-term mating in /r/TheRedPill[1] ? …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:41 PM
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No it isn't, I'm interpreting what you're saying. RPers crave the validation from people thinking that they're 'alpha' because they're fundamentally insecure with the idea of living with themselves. Again, you're missing the point. You said: "You don't need other people to hold you in high esteem, it's simply untrue." I didn't say you did. I said you need "the acceptance and respect of others." They're different. Normal people need validation from others. Which is what I understood from you when…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:35 PM
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i.e. dress better, be less awkward, cultivate a personality, lose weight, be less bitchy, etc - because they require a level of effort they're unwilling to put forth. Many fit, stylish, socially adept niceguys will disagree with you here. One of my closest friends is all of these things (maybe not stylish, but he's got it together). He refuses to take my advice, though, because his niceness makes him feel superior. I don't know if that's a common thing for everyone, but he is not your stereotypi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 05:56 PM
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So I understand that you do not plan to spin plates all your life? Since you reject LTRs and have a lower sex drive will you just live alone from 40-80, that is 40 years? I'm in an LTR, which may or may not last the next 50 years. If it doesn't, I may still find myself single at 40, at which time I can reasonably expect to be slaying 26 year-olds. But I'm successful, well respected, attractive, well over six-foot, and fit...advantages the average guy doesn't have. If I didn't have those advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 05:40 PM
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You don't need other people to hold you in high esteem, it's simply untrue. It's also not what I said. This is, in fact, exactly what I meant. You are a shrewd observer of the human mind. Or you don't really know what you mean when you talk about 'validation'. Yeah...what I was responding to was your assertion that I only care about others because they validate me. Which was how you decided to interpret my comment that normal people need validation from others. FOCUS. The insecurity that you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 04:44 PM
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This is pretty weak. Obviously. And when priorities change, behavior will change with it. "Constantly courting new women" is called "dating". It's usually fun all by itself, so the time isn't necessarily a cost. For some people it gets dry and boring. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes not. Some people long for a connection, others get the connection separate from the sex. Some people feel empty while sleeping around, others empty while in relationships. Settling down is way more of "a robotic 'foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 04:15 PM
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You're absolutely wrong, there is no need for validation, it's only the ego that craves validation. If you live mindfully there's no need for validation. We're a tribal species, and acceptance in the tribe is the most basic form of validation. It's instinct. Living "mindfully" doesn't eliminate the innate need for the acceptance and respect of others. So the only reason you care about other people is because you get validation for it? That is narcissistic behaviour. This is, in fact, exactly wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:49 PM
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"Santa's not real. We still like opening his presents." I agree with Castle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:18 PM
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I think RPers will admit that they think being 'alpha' makes them feel less worthless, but they probably won't admit to their fundamental insecurity and validation seeking. Everyone needs validation. Admitting to our "fundamental insecurity and validation seeking" would be like admitting to our fundamental need for food and air. Validation seeking is a part of life, and is a perfectly acceptable and sustainable way to feel worthwhile - so long as the means of seeking validation aren't destructiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:17 PM
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Sure, sure. AWALT doesn't denote low quality women...it denotes women. High quality, low quality, in between. But hey, keep fighting that cognitive dissonance however you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 03:14 AM
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Why do you think that none of the field reports show the Red pill failing? Because those guys post in /r/asktrp, so they can get some advice. Edit: When it does work (usually against low quality women) This refrain... You have only your assumptions that say, "No quality woman would go for that. Psshaa...you bastards are just picking up the loser, damaged chicks." Yet you know none of us, or the women we're with. So you just assume we're all lying about the quality, or that we don't understand wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 09:39 PM
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Because otherwise you are fucking her because you want to without knowing anything about what she wants. I do know that she wants to fuck me. And if we're dating, I know she wants to date me. And if we're in a relationship, I know she wants to have me to herself. So, again: Why? For what purpose does that serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 09:35 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:04 PM
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My personal feelings about the game won't affect my need to play the game to get what I want in any way. If I refuse to play that game, [.......] will go find someone who is willing to play that game. That's some quality life advice right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:01 PM
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What about those of us who loiter? Strutting is low level cardio and will steal my gainz.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/15 03:41 PM
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The presence of the word "business" in its name doesn't make a site a reliable resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 02:02 PM
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Most of the sites focus on household income, instead of individual, but these two have individual stats: Stats from the Census Bureau Stats from University of Minnesota’s Minnesota Population Center’s IPUMS-CPS site
/r/askTRP02/08/15 06:48 PM
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Honestly 100k at any age is impressive, considering most how few ever get there. It's top 10%, so to get there in your first 10 years full time in the workforce is a decent-sized deal. And it depends where you live. A bill stretches quite a bit farther in Dallas or Phoenix than in LA, NYC, or Miami.
/r/askTRP01/08/15 08:51 PM
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I came here for the same kinda reasons. Poor, gaslighted, divorced, no friends... At 29 I was making 35k, paying 750/mo in child support, and still trying to beta my way into some pussy. Had no friends, no game, no hope. This is what happens when you keep improving immensely.
/r/askTRP01/08/15 02:25 AM
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33, 100k+ I had the pick of the women in my social circle, 22-32 year olds. Now in an LTR, but women are regularly making it known that they'd be happy to step in if needed. But cash and fitness have nothing to do with it. I dominate the social group, without insisting on it. People come to me to ask for advice, for direction, and more often than you'd think for orders. I might as well be a syndicate boss at this point. If you keep strong frame, put in work to build a social circle, and place yo…
/r/askTRP31/07/15 11:07 PM
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What constitutes showing off is relative. I drove an older Mustang that I customized and kept clean because I wanted it. And I got a nice loft in a less popular part of the city because I loved it and I was close to work. But those two things made me stand out against the sea of bros in a base 320i with a postage stamp apartment in the hottest district. But you're right, women don't care about the money. They care about the status and respect the frame. Having money makes those things easier, th…
/r/askTRP31/07/15 10:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm really not. Of course the strength program doesn't originate in TRP. Why would it? TRP is about sexual strategy. Let the fitness guys do the specific training advice. And I never tried to take attention away from what makes TRP unique. Mentioning one aspect of TRP advice doesn't automatically mean I'm trying to divert attention from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:11 PM
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This is a ridiculous idea. TRP suggests...insists on...lifting. But since we use other people's programs, we can't consider lifting to be RP advice? Dave Ramsey suggests saving. But he didn't create his own type of bank, so it's not essentially Dave Ramsey advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 07:25 PM
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What exactly would constitute an RP lifting program? And why should we come up with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:55 PM
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From (1) and (2) it follows that a high partner count is an indicator of sexual fitness in men, whereas it is at best a null indicator for women. Clarity, from OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:04 PM
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Being that dense must be tiresome. Evidence of attractiveness= sleeping with people makes you demonstrates that you are attractive. That's what "evidence" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:47 PM
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There's usually a fairly good reason for this. Either the woman has a boyfriend already and is faithful to him, or the man is too obvious in his desire for casual sex and does not seem willing to the woman to put in her preferred length of time for the woman to get to know him and feel safe around him before she is ready to have sex with him, which differs from woman to woman. The reason isn't the point. The point is the point. This is a gross generalization and is in no way universal among all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:42 PM
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How is it you can't understand that he's saying exactly what you just said? This this comment is precisely what came from OP. No one even implied that a high count makes a man attractive. They keep telling you that a high count is evidence of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:35 PM
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You're saying the same thing, from different directions. /u/thedeti is saying that attractiveness leads to the ability to fuck lots of women. You're saying that fucking lots of women is evidence of attractiveness. It's all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:32 PM
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Because your dad disowned you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:21 PM
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Truth...the whole read I kept wondering why this guy has blondes on such a high pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:19 PM
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Hair color can affect the impression others get of you, which affects the feedback they give, which affects your self-appraisal, which affects your standards. AKA, you're hair color can definitely affect who you are as a person and who you're willing to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 06:18 PM
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Those are more like top 5%. Top 20% is a guy who is "in shape" - from crossfit, bodybuilding, running, rock climbing...whatever - has a steady check and disposable income (doesn't have to be rich), has a legitimate social circle, and a little bit of game.
/r/askTRP23/07/15 05:39 AM
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I guess it depends on where you are, but...it's not really. Same rules apply (looks + status + charisma), and most of the time, novelty works in our (being not white) favor. I've been the first black guy at least 10 times. Honestly, for most people top 10 or 20% isn't that difficult if you have a plan and some willpower.
/r/askTRP23/07/15 05:32 AM
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Umm... What?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:31 PM
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If you believe these instincts are "more or less residual", you don't understand them, and you don't see clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:04 PM
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No shit. Is this the height of the argument you've come to make? If so, you're wasting everyone's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:55 PM
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I don't think you know what your point was. I'll help. You were trying to say that since we (wealthy westerners) have our basic needs met, we don't play the evolutionary game described by /u/Sepean. But you missed the point he was making, which is that even though we're not spearing buffalo and fighting off competing tribes, we are in fact following the same drive to accumulate resources, secure status, and defend ourselves. You seem to think that since we aren't following these drives in a prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:46 PM
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Your class privilege and relative naivete are showing. Huge swaths of humanity struggle with meeting needs as basic as shelter and clean water. But everyone you know has A/C and WiFi, so you might have missed that. The instincts aren't irrelevant because we're wealthy, they just manifest differently. We fight for money and status, we struggle for big, fancy, safe homes, rather than just to get walls and a roof. We seek the most nurturing environments for our children, rather than just making sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:50 PM
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This has what, exactly, to do with the natural imperative to gather resources and defend oneself (and one's family)? "Food" is not the most conceptually basic version of what you're trying to discuss. It's "resources". Money and property. Wealth. People with wealth generally get all they need to survive, with both comfort and safety. Poor people tend to suffer and "literally die" at higher rates (speaking of preventable death, of course...everybody dies, obv). Do you think it only counts as foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:09 PM
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Replace "food" with money or prestige, and "kill" with sue or socially punish, and you have described the modern world perfectly. Not so far removed after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:31 PM
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The one virtue that seems to lead to unicorn-type women is intelligence. Self-awareness, emotional maturity, and rationality. Intelligence - at least the general variety that you can measure with an IQ test or the SATs - is not even a precursor to the three virtues you mention. It's completely unrelated. The requirement to be self-aware, mature, and rational is to not be stupid, which is a far cry from being intelligent. I think the reason intelligence is all but forgotten on the RP list of "vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:41 PM
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I don't think those women are as common as you suggest. But if they are, where and how would you suggest they're found? Because I think we'd all like to see more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:59 PM
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My experiences in life counters your theories, which tells me you have little life experience. ...C'mon...You're really gonna roll with this kind of "logic"? Most RP men seem pretty blue collar. So perhaps you are drawing apt conclusions but your sample pool is mostly made up of people like yourself. Who knows. This is just inaccurate. You should take a timeout from commenting and get a clear picture of what's actually going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:24 PM
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Ultramarathoners don't need o2 max, or strength. They need absurdly efficient energy use at low output. Also, that kind of endurance running is not about fitness. You should read things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 09:34 PM
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You're misinformed, or your experience with lifting is extraordinarily lazy. Lifting burns plenty of calories, and lifting at high intensity with brief rests can improve o2 max. And if those are the only health benefits you look for from exercise, you're really missing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:21 PM
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Strength training has more health benefits than other exercise types for all ages. It should be a big part of any exercise program. There are plenty of other ways to get in shape, just not better ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:20 PM
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Hey, you're the one who brought hyperbole and exclamation points into this. It would take a lot more than this for me to think you're scum...I don't even know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:45 PM
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So niw his feelings aren't real? You really took the scenario and ran full speed ahead, eh? Yes. How dare you? Do you really think you're so wonderful that someone who had to learn to be attractive to you is automatically disqualified? Even if they became your "perfect" partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 11:03 PM
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based on/inspired by =/= fabricated/copied They want natural good, not practiced good. And said as much. Even when it's just a few things, /u/haircombsnightmare said it wouldn't be "as terrible". So still bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 08:08 PM
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I don't believe one simply "becomes" something. We're not liquid, and neither is our personality. There are things that we can improve, and people do change certain things over time if they want to - but there are root things about our personality that go beyond what we want. We'll have to agree to disagree about what those "root things" are. I am a quite different man than I was 5 and 10 years ago. To the point where people who knew me then - even those who were very close friends, but lived fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:49 PM
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and I found out everything about them is a lie Why must it be "a lie"? What if, rather than pretending all the time, he became the person the guide recommended? He examined his life, his goals, his achievements - his happiness - and decided that it would be better to change. So now he is this new person, who you adore. The cost? His old personality (that he didn't like anyway, and that wasn't leading him to happiness). For how long? Maybe for life...maybe until it stops working and he tries some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:22 PM
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Why would you question his filter on taking advice? He obviously chose good advice, as he is everything you want. And why would employing successful strategy indicate an "immature view of relationships"? It seems the immature view is that no strategy is necessary, things will just work out with "right person". His experiences led him to the guide, so I'd say he can make decisions based on them ("I suck at this and need help"). Sounds like an alright dude to me. Edit: manualcorrection of autocorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:28 PM
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I've literally never upvoted you before. I feel a little dirty...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:26 AM
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You're going to have to explain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:23 AM
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TIL abuse only counts if you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:07 AM
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Yeah, when you get that butter taste, you know you're on a roll. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
/r/askTRP02/07/15 04:59 AM
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11 US states. And all (I think) require representing yourself as married to the community and to the state as well as living together. My gf lives with me, but those other two are never happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:23 PM
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He must have an IV hooked up or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:14 PM
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A butterface can't be obese... It requires a hot body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:11 AM
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I did say "if". Yeah, preferences are different, sure. I will continue in my TRP brainwashing, thank you for the encouragement to do so. My priorities and preferences (sorry, those that were implanted in me by the group) have served me pretty well so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 08:49 PM
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You know, you guys love to toss out the "you need to read" thing a lot. Did it ever occur to you that I have? I'm that atheist that reads the Bible before trashing it. If you have it hasn't done you any good, because you don't know what you're talking about. Are you that atheist that says Episcopalians suck because Robert Tilton was a crook? But, since you asked, my opinion on the Democratic Party (and pretty much all the parties, honestly) is not that much better than my opinion on PETA. You ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 08:47 PM
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Come on. This isn't even remotely true. RP espouses precisely zero "beta" actions. In fact, by the language used in your forum, it's quite apparent that anyone who does have a "beta" habit is most certainly an inferior person. Yeah, single men trying to spin plates need to minimize the beta. Men in LTRs need to have a proper balance. You need to read a bit, or ask /u/TheGreasyPole. True. PETA's a terrible organization, if you're comparing yourself with them then you are in terrible trouble. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:55 PM
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he looks like a little boy out with his blonde mummy. Yes. Came here to say that he looks like her girlfriend.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/15 02:15 PM
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Don't feed the troll. "Narcissist" and "sociopath" are his candy words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:38 AM
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Are you trying to suggest that RP is totally ok with beta people hanging in their sub? Any experienced member of TRP/MRP/MMSL will tell you that a balance of alpha and beta behaviors are necessary to maintain a marriage/LTR. Even the new guys probably know that. That they embrace any line of thought other than their own as having any worth? That they don't view themselves as the only people who can see the world for what it truly is? Would PETA let you come extol the virtues of hunting? Would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 09:23 PM
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You can't get accidentally common law married in Texas, though. You have to 1) live together, 2) agree that you're married, 3) represent to others/the public you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:23 PM
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Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 02:14 AM
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Well, too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 11:08 PM
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Mk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 10:29 PM
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Mk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 10:25 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:39 PM
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Of course, that nebulous little phrase could also mean "strategies for romantic success," or some such. Again, if I assumed that they were the same, I would have challenged your assertion that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:24 PM
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What, you'd seriously rather we just die alone? Clearly she would...she only has sympathy for failures who keep trying the same shit, not ones who take a different path.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:22 PM
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Had I made that assumption, I would have challenged your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:07 PM
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K. Care to make a valid point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:58 PM
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No grammar issue. I was saying that the special pleading you speak of comes from the stereotypical Tumblr feminists, or extremists. And that it shouldn't deter you from feminism in general, in the same way you're trying to convince me that TRP isn't all that bad and my more extreme examples of it being bad is due to some extremists. I was actually talking about the existence of (modern) feminism. A group for women to advance their own cause; sometimes it's hostile, sometimes it's not, but it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:37 PM
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Ha, thanks man. I don't mind being the villain once in a while!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:22 PM
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Yet you confront me about basing your beliefs off of what you consider to be extremists. Funny how that works. Could you clarify? I feel like there's a grammar issue here. Your point falls flat unless they're doing the same shit that TRP is doing. A "safe place" is a "safe place", and an arena to spout misogynistic biotroof idiocy is quite another. This is you policing the language and content of a sub for men; you're trying to say what can and cannot be discussed and how. If you can decide what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:22 PM
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A) Hyperbole. It's a thing. B) You have an odd concept of "success", if you think TRP strategy isn't successful. I myself consider it to be achieving the goals I set for a particular endeavor. Maybe yours is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:01 PM
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Read some random samples...men who wised up and got out of awful marriages. Men who tried to skip on their responsibilities who were downvoted into oblivion and told to man the fuck up and accept their consequences. Satire from GLO, some angry bros. Not a lot of highly respected/upvoted posts saying women are worthless, though. I don't have the time or the interest to go through all of it though, so, w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 05:59 PM
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A) try understanding hyperbole. B) This is a success story, not a sob story. I did ask out of genuine curiosity. Seems like you all think we just hopped on TRP as the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 05:53 PM
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I believe that's probably totally accurate. The stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. It's textbook. You swing from one extreme to another, each swing getting closer to balance, like a pendulum. You didn't try everything else before. Aside from how impossible that is, from what I've seen red pillers have tried little else. I don't know what you've seen. But I have at least 15 books at home about having better social and romantic relationships, from multiple perspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 05:38 PM
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But she's not, is she? You haven't dated around as a woman, but I can assure you there are things women have to do to get and maintain a relationship. I know that this is true now. Didn't before. Then you should become a feminist, because this is what is known as benevolent sexism. I don't see feminism as the solution, partly because it has no cohesiveness or consistency; mainly, though, because it reeks of special pleading, which is antithetical to eliminating benevolent sexism. I haven't frequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 05:15 PM
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I was still without effective strategy at 31. So, as far as I'm concerned, you were early.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:54 PM
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Ok. You got me. They are, in fact, alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:38 PM
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Unconscious strategy is still strategy. You developed one early, I needed help. But that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:37 PM
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I'd assume you had a different social/romantic education than we did. You learned these things naturally, figured out how it worked, and went on your merry way. But once we figured out that our educations were bogus, we try whatever we come across. None of it works, because it just reinforces the wrong things we've already learned. Then there's TRP. It was a last resort for me, after fitness, style, and sociability brought 0 results.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:17 PM
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Either this is a poor example, or you don't realize what makes up a pretty face. She definitely clears the bar before makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:50 PM
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You know me so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:24 PM
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Yes, you're correct. I refuse to meet any more for fear of ruining my ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 03:23 PM
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Truth. About 3 years ago (I hadn't heard of peacocking until about a year ago) I got some black and white dress shoes. My friends call them my bumblebees. I thought they were ridiculous, and I wore them to hang out with a female friend at happy hour. I didn't think much of it, except, "Hey K, check out these ridic shoes!" But 3 women came over to the table to remark about them. Even the one who told me they were ugly hung around to flirt. It works, but subtlety is key. Before my current LTR, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:03 AM
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It's the equivalent of telling your buddy that he's better off without the chick that politely turned him down because she was probably a total bitch anyway and she wasn't even that hot. You're right. Because she'd probably be a bitch to a beta, and he probably thinks she's more attractive than she is. Again, she's not a "prize". You gotta put work in for anything worth having. Dems the breaks, man. You misunderstand. I mean the idea that men should earn a woman's love/trust/respect, while consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:48 AM
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I made the same agreement, to the same result. To that, I say, AWALT. No, getting laid won't help. Understanding what you should expect from her, and the value of your own integrity will, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:37 AM
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That could all be true. I don't think it is, but what do i know? I don't know everybody, and I don't conduct polls. The people I interact with personally and professionally seem to like me. My girlfriend is mesmerized. I've got a good role on an organization board, and I've tripled my income in three years. So, if I'm an asshole, at least I'm a happy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 01:17 AM
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If all the women in my life have been outliers, that would make me quite the special snowflake, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 11:35 PM
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The heart of TRP is "recognizing women as they really are" which is basically a fancy way of saying "Recognizing women as the enemy, but they are stupid and easily manipulated, so here's how to do that so you can get laid a lot." "Man, some women just suck. They're people, and people have a tendency to just suck sometimes." It's less of seeing women as "the enemy" and more acknowledging that a woman isn't a prize. We shouldn't have to earn, and then work to keep, a woman in our lives. It's about…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:19 PM
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So if someone complains about something they must always be miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 10:06 PM
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Or, you fail repeatedly (or experience minimal success) with those things, but sans TRP. Then demonstrate vastly increased success when implementing the rest of TRP. Those things are like a degree. The bare minimum required to get the interview. Now how do you prove you're up to the job?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 09:44 PM
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I thought the world sucked and women sucked and I found some savior in TRP. I can see where you were coming from, and why you had to balance out the way you did. I've always felt like the world just is the way it is. Men and women are the way they are. It's doesn't "suck"...it just "is". I had hostility toward my ex wife, and toward myself, and toward all the advice I had gotten. But by the time I started dating again I was over that. I hoped to meet someone who was outside of the box. Who eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 07:39 PM
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I think that for most of us it's less about putting every woman in the same box, and more like opening the box, and letting them step into it or not. I haven't met one who didn't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 07:16 PM
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What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 08:30 PM
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As much as I hate that attitude, it was a reaction to the disintegration of the black family...possibly as a result of sex positivity. Idk. It's taken on a life of its own, but it wasn't the root of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:31 AM
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(Veering way off topic, but I never get to have this convo) I think we ran out of excuses in this front when Japanese Americans got stuck in internment camps. But even then, Vietnamese refugees were coming here with nothing, not even the language, and in the face of discrimination outpaced us in a generation. While they go on, doing things that work we keep on the pointless crusades and self destructive behavior, while claiming that it's "different". The only difference is that 50 years ago we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 06:01 PM
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show that you can feed her and she's yours That wasn't as straightforward as it is now. From 8000 years ago until about 50, it was still hard as fuck to do so, which is why in parts of the world were it is/was allowed, rich men have 10 wives, and poor men have none. It was less complicated...you could just buy a wife. But you still had to come up with the money for a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 01:55 AM
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We call this "adrenaline". Is good, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 08:10 PM
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Fables must teach morality? Aesop told the only fables? Tortoises are human?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 06:01 PM
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So in fables we can only compare humans to other humans? A bit limiting, wouldn't you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:38 PM
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You have sooo much more patience than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:34 AM
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You're too...you to understand this now, but I can only hope future you eventually figures it out: this is why you're "unlovable" and we have no sympathy for you. .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:26 AM
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You have perfectly validated your incel status in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:02 AM
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If the only black person you know is a criminal and you assume all blacks are criminals, that is discrimination. So similarly, based on your experience, instead of being open to people being different, you just assume everyone is the same. Stop with the straw-man bullshit. Do you honestly expect me to chronicle the personal experience of every sexless dude I've ever known? I have actual shit to do. I'm open to exceptions, when they reveal themselves. Until then, you go in a box. You've failed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:05 PM
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Aw...if I wasn't black I'd be blushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:46 PM
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Apparently metaphor escaped you. I'll translate They just open their legs and they're good to go. "They simply have to allow a man access in order to get sex." There is no comment there about what happens once the legs are open. Certainly no blanket statement about what women want when they get in the sack. Just that the bar they have to clear to get there is much lower than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:04 PM
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Yes, that is exactly what I said. My friend is the example of all men who fail sexually. Oh, wait, nevermind. I actually qualified my statement up front ("Every perpetually single person I know..."), so I apparently wasn't claiming to know every single one. You're making the same stupid error that BPers her always make. We use personal experience to navigate the world. This is what I see, consistently. It explains my world, so it explains my reaction to low value men. I don't have to prove that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 06:45 PM
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Every perpetually single person I know oozes creepy desperation. Even my 5'10" (I hear that's actually tall? He's our resident short guy, so it's tough for me to imagine), intelligent, well-employed socially prominent best friend. He whines, constantly, about not being able to get women. Can't figure it out. Truth is, he's 37, a 5 or 6/10. He's always chasing 25 y/o 7s and 8s. He could get himself to a 7...7.5. But he refuses. He could go after women his own age, and on his level. Won't do that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:19 PM
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Why do you see friendship as a zero sum game? What I receive from friendships (comfort, validation, community) is usually greater than the sum of things given by the other person (a few hours a week for some mutually beneficial dinners/drinks/workouts). I assume the same is true for my friends. RP gets tagged as only being in favor of "transactional" relationships, but this thread is making me think it might be the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:47 PM
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Take "genital mutilation" off the list of inequalities. Because (in the US, at least) the sexes are equally fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 05:12 PM
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You should knock number 3 of the list. Circumcision is equivalent and way more common. That's equality right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:31 PM
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Those people are idiots. And if you're hanging around a bunch of people who regularly get blackout, I have to wonder about you. What you're doing right now, trying to absolve people of responsibility and social consequences of an objectively idiotic decision, is why it's so difficult for you to accept this argument. You're friends are going to get in trouble from one day, and it's going to be because they are the type of individuals who can't even avoid blackout. But keep defending them. It's go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 06:42 PM
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I can fuck up a conversation 1-3 times and be given the benefit of the doubt But that's patronizing acceptance. When they give you a pass on that, you lose the potential to be a "man" or a "friend", and immediately become a "black man" or the "black friend". You don't play on the same field, and you don't get the same benefits of success. Edit: I used to be the "black friend", and got sick of it. It took me a while to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 06:27 PM
1

If you're going to trot out lame insults (in what world was that response a loss of frame?), at least spell them right. It's "lose", not "loose".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:37 PM
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Children want ice cream for breakfast. Children are part of society. Ergo, society wants ice cream for breakfast. I've explained the obesity epidemic!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:36 PM
1

Most public school teachers are women and teachers being paid poorly is a good example. No, public school teachers are paid poorly because they're entirely disposable. We need a lot of them, but we don't need them to be very good. We just need them not to suck. There is a very low bar for skill, and no incentive to excel. That and the fact that most get 8-10 weeks vacation (after considering training, in-service days, etc). Why should we consider the $45k most get as a starting salary in my area…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:29 PM
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Yeah, you misunderstood...by the time a newb reaches proficience, the guys that were "alphas" when he started will be retiring from the game. Suppose everyone found TRP as a teenager and honed their skills over the years (before the wall). The question remains: How big could red pill get before the alphas have to come up with a new strategy to compete for those plates? Huge. Immense. Monolithic. Wouldn't matter. Some will be better at it than others. Some will want LTR. Some will MGTOW. Most wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:00 AM
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What if you have the opportunity to fuck whoever you want, but you choose to stay in a committed relationship? In this example you are not limited by having no options, and you aren't acting like a white knight or "nice guy", you have the DT characteristics, but you prefer to be in a relationship. I would argue that most regular guys are in that kind of scenario. If you are still attractive and confident you could probably sleep around if you really wanted. But most guys don't. I can't imagine t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:20 AM
2

Alpha and Beta and determined by sex partners, sexual partners are a side effect of TRP. Alpha and beta is not determined by sex partners. I'm pretty sure that's what /u/feelstheheats was saying, but got autocorrected ('aren't' turned into 'and').
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:14 AM
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Clearly part of it is. If there is "red pill truth," then someone put the effort into creating that truth. Again, yeah, someone did. That doesn't mean that's the purpose. Of course they cannot. Basketball is an art not a science. There are no basketball truths. You no longer have any credibility with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:39 PM
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Yes, there are "Red Pill truths". That doesn't mean the purpose of TRP is to "glean truth". The purpose of the Memphis Grizzlies is to win basketball games...does that mean they can't have "truths" about how the sport works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:01 PM
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This is one area where I (and probably most RP men) have done enough experimentation based on both the prevailing psychological / social research and TRP wisdom top make our own conclusion on what works. And none of us really care what research concludes if it bears no practical fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 01:45 AM
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You got the opposite of what he said... Since men can get every other need meet elsewhere, the only unique thing they offer is sex. Which means looks/sex appeal is all that matters. Not my argument, but if you're going to refute it, at least get it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:42 AM
0

My sympathies. The single women here hunt in packs. And aggressively so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:04 AM
1

Except for the part where I think you can call something amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 10:01 PM
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Context schmongtext, that isn't what the word means so they are wrong. What they should say is that it fits in their moral compass. Nope. What they (I'm saying they, because I've never used the amorality defense) actually mean is that the concept is amoral. You choose how to make use of it. A gun is amoral. Cop uses to protect: good use. Criminal uses to rob: bad use. The concept of frame is amoral. If you hold your ground when getting shit tested, and it strengthens the relationship/bond: good …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 06:08 PM
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It actually means that morality doesn't apply. It's like saying a color is very high or very low. No, height doesn't apply. Edit: forgot a word...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 06:02 PM
0

Whoooo! Those'r sum ZINGERS! Ya stung me good, yung'n!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 11:00 PM
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Man, you could have at least tagged that...it is definitely NSFL. Edit: That oughta do it
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 05:13 PM
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First: "overreacting", not "overreaching". Second: if that's your standard, you can't say anything about women either...even to suggest that we're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 03:47 PM
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What's childish is your impression that a full life means the same thing to all men. Also how you think that your "question" seems legit in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:26 AM
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Dude, you don't understand, swearz = feelz!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:23 AM
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I'm glad you know how many experiences (and how destructive) we've each had. We must be overreacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:21 AM
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I'm absolutely cynical. Because it works. I'm better protected, take smarter risks, and enjoy life more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:18 AM
3

You're right. We're making shit up. 10 years ago we all looked at the standard common sense, seeing it's repeatable stellar results, and decided that we wanted to try something different. Because...fuck, I don't know...just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 06:09 PM
5

And a couple of times last week...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 05:26 PM
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I know right? How long will we have to wait for him to use the words narcissist or sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 05:20 PM
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you can't unknow it Yep. Just like goatse. Dammit..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 05:44 AM
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I actually responded directly to what you asked. Would I do that to a friend? Yes. I'm even more extreme in saying, "If you want to be with me in public, you will refrain from certain behaviors." I mean, your three points are right, but that doesn't mean I'm going to put up with bullshit behavior from my grown children. "If your living under my roof" isn't an attempt to control them, but to control my space. Once they're grown, they can do whatever they think is right. But if they want to share …
/r/askTRP02/03/15 10:39 PM
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why don't I hear "happy husband happy life"? Gotta make it rhyme, bro. Happy man, happy clam?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:54 PM
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I don't need more friends, I have a waiting list already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:15 PM
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How many views do I need? I have one that works. I'm done. I got other shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:53 PM
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The whole thing about "if you're living under my roof " is a great way to start a fight and will only cause issues. Would you do that to a friend that stayed with you? I hope not Yes, I would and have. Hell, last weekend I dragged a guy aside and told him if he wanted to hang with us at the bar he was going to act differently. He did.
/r/askTRP02/03/15 05:24 PM
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About my internalized values : I try to get rid of them. Okay they make me stay in shape but they also have made me suffer a lot ("I'm not fit enough", etc) That's not necessarily suffering. I got into a relationship and put on 30 pounds in 6 months. Now, I'm 6'3", so it's no disaster, but I'm very aware that "I'm not fit enough". But that just makes me keep up with my program (most of the time). It doesn't harm my self esteem. Now, if I didn't have that feeling, I might gain another 30, start l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:33 PM
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I spent the last years learning to not care about social value. That's one of the reasons why I dress comfy and not classy. Good for you, I guess. Different people value different things, and if yours weren't bringing you what you wanted, then it's good that you changed them. TRP seems to refuse the fact that you can be a very beautiful and sexy person and also have "extra" fat). Not the case. TRP simply acknowledges that there are generally accepted standards of physical beauty for men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:28 PM
1

but to fight racism with racism seems is stupid. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 07:30 AM
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Truth. If you don't like what you have to do to get your friends respect, get new friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:51 PM
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Though poorly written, it's obvious that he was clarifying what he meant by "something back": her buying him food, not a BJ at Denny's. He only had to clarify, because if he didn't, the comments would be filled shit about how he's a shitlord because he expected sex for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:44 PM
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So what you'd like us to believe is that the only explanation for someone not having extended monogamous relationships is that they are incapable of maintaining them? You're going to have to work harder than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:56 PM
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So what you'd like us to believe is that people who have multiple sex partners have substance abuse disorders, or having multiple partners causes those disorders? You're going to have to work harder than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:54 PM
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I'm stealing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:21 PM
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I'm not sure about my looks You didn't say you aren't good looking. But "above average" isn't special. So I'm gonna stick with "not good looking", with the addendum of "also not ugly". maybe all women are not the hypergamous-gold_digger-attracted to status and money that you think ? Sure, they're not all - that (your description is ridiculous and misses most of what I actually think, but whatevs) - but that doesn't actually say much. Because women are attracted to status in men. Men are too, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:12 PM
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So, you aren't good looking, you aren't fit, you're poor, you're not dominant at all. But you're just so filled with genuine respect that women hop on your dick? That's totally believable. I'm Batman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 04:40 PM
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Is this a joke? Are you trying to punk me? I literally QUOTED your comment where you made an incorrect statement about rape. Here it is again: You don't get to consent and then withdraw it after the fact because "coercion". You do realize that in the text you quoted it says "after the fact", right? It's right there. Can you see it? First you say you can't withdraw it at any point... But...but...you just quoted him - twice - as saying "after the fact". Your trolling needs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:36 PM
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As with most of the BP commenters, you take no time to actually understand the people you spend so much time insulting. stable people don't lash out at the world People, even stable ones, vent all the time. It's only "lashing out" if they actually act out. Writing in all caps in a subreddit that allows/encourages you to vent your frustrations is not lashing out. and blame everything except themselves for their situation If someone gives you bad/wrong/damaging information, which is reinforced by …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:27 PM
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Can you read? Can you? Your response has literally no relevance to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:19 PM
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Aside from the creepiness of children flirting, this is interesting advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:11 PM
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The scare quotes are important. This is a guy who gets called an asshole by jealous people. To be differentiated from the actual asshole who stole all that stuff from /u/ThorLives garage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:06 PM
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Being flippant and dismissive of women I treat men that way, too. So, yeah, I'm treating them like people. And betas don't think we're assholes because of the success, but because we get success "the wrong way". It's like people who hate Richard Sherman. It's because of the trash talk, not the success (unless they're Niners fans).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:02 PM
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So what you're saying is that when you use an anecdote (with a single data point, I might add), it totally applies to all women. But when we, collectively, use anecdotes with dozens of data points, WE ARE WRONG. Do I have this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:31 PM
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That is actually the opposite of the advice I got for years. My ex-wife disrespected my constantly. Publicly and privately. The overwhelming advice in the first wave was that I must have been treating her badly, so i should ask her what I was doing wrong and fix it. In the second wave, when it was obvious that I treated her pristinely, I was advised that I should "set an example"... by treating her even better, and she'd eventually come around. That advice came from married couples, ministers, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 04:59 PM
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I love how being unhappy is some kind of insult. It's evidence of maladjustment. "If you're unhappy, it must be because you're unstable. Because stable people are always happy." Have you ever met a real person? Newsflash: there are a lot of unhappy people in the real world. Do you intend to suggest that they're all unstable? Because, obviously, if they were stable they'd happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:21 PM
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They're attracted to money, looks, and dominance too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:09 PM
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If you're in your 30s, it's safe to assume you've got another 40 years. Are you sure you want to waste it with this kind of thinking? Are you sure you want to spend the second half of your life striving for nothing? Are you sure you're ready to give up on life? Honestly, if you can't find some way to respect yourself, no woman is going to. No men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:07 PM
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It's amazing how you can completely ignore the instigation from /u/SansaCulotte, and call out /u/We_Are_Legion for responding. Not expecting a response, just observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:33 AM
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Or we might just stop with all this bullshit and just love each others ? What are you, 8? Do your parents know you're on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:55 AM
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Now I totally believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:30 AM
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Adding to the chorus of those calling "BS". This is either flat out lie, or he's internalized TRP so well that he thinks these are his "normal" thoughts and behaviors. Edit: clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:27 AM
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Well then you're right. You will never improve yourself if you think you're as good as you can be. You're not. No one is. But if you think you are, then you're fucked. Seems like one of TBPs favorite "insults" of TRP is that it's all about "becoming someone else to get girls." That's not always true, but sometimes it is. This is when you ask a very important question: do I like who I am? There are no gradations. It's a yes, or no. I'm going to assume it's no. My assumption comes from the fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:57 PM
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I've never seen anyone fitting my picture get any woman long-term. That's irrelevant. If they were omega, they wouldn't be able to get them short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:38 PM
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Autocorrect is beating the shit out of you right now...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:06 PM
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The world isn't just. Anybody who says so should be avoided - or conned - immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 09:00 PM
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Which law of thermodynamics describes the conversion of protein into muscle mass? Conservation of Energy. If you were eating more than you were burning (TDEE), and couldn't gain, you broke it. At one point I decided to go full on crazy and put my protein intake at 3,5 g per kilogram of body weight. I did gain mass. I just wasn't any stronger or muscular. I was fatter. You're lifting wrong. If you don't have a genuine muscular disorder, it is impossible to lift on even a shitty program and not se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:57 PM
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False. Your personality is 90%. Now, if you're a 3 and chasing 8s, yeah, you're on a fools errand. But if you're approaching women in your range and still getting shot down, it's because of how you act, not how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:49 PM
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You've failed to motivate me to prove it to you. Again, why do I need stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:33 AM
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Why are you so convinced that stats matter? After 30, I've dated and hooked up with 22-26 year olds exclusively (well almost...there were those 2 PhD's, and my current LTR) . Why do I need stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:29 AM
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You call it classless when it's up front and honest, too. Stop pretending that you're debating in good faith. You're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:40 PM
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Sure. They're exactly the same. Your argument is airtight. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:20 PM
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Man, no one is allowed to think anything without some peer reviewed research, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:16 PM
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AKA "public venues".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:03 PM
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Context is king. Women, in a sub for women, bitching about unfairness they've experienced, and looking for help to navigate/overcome the circumstances. Of course. 2XC is a good example. Feminists, in a sub for feminists, bitching about whatever feminists bitch about...yeah. It's their place, they do what they want there. When they get on the news, or college campuses, or Twitter, or whatever other public venue, they'll have to face challenges and answer questions. But when you're in your own hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:28 PM
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never been the biggest proponent of the anger phase... Nobody thinks being angry is going to improve a man or improve his standing. But it's absolutely acceptable to be angry about things. Yeah, you can't "consider yourself a master of your world" until you are calm - that's why stoicism is constantly referenced by the ECs. But sometimes you have to get angry before you can get over it. The anger isn't encouraged, it's acknowledged. It's described, not prescribed. Learn the difference. And the "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:42 PM
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Oh, stop being a disingenuous prick. He defended the bitching about women. That is not, in fact, the same as "blaming". But you knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:55 PM
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My go to compliment response is, "I know...but thanks for noticing." Smirk, nod, and it comes off in most social situations.
/r/askTRP26/02/15 07:58 AM
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You should spend some time reading the posts in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:24 PM
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So you've established that at no point in your post puberty days were you taught that being nice/sweet/helpful/sacrificial was sexy or the most attractive of traits (beyond looks). Congrats. Your focus group of one proves absolutely nothing. Is it not painfully obvious at this point that a large portion of the Western male population was taught those things? Why are you in such denial about that simple fact? You don't seem to debate the merits of the worldview, so much as your disbelief that not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:15 PM
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I know right? If it was decent game the story would be, "I met the funniest guy at the coffee shop..."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:08 PM
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Your idea of "alpha" is golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:20 AM
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Which, if you failed to notice, is exactly what's going on right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:02 AM
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That doesn't really sound like a "dominant" woman to me. Sounds like you want a woman who's not weak, which doesn't necessarily mean not submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:15 PM
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...Interesting. Is it difficult to find that combination? And how does the dominance work outside the bedroom? I've honestly never met a happy (hetero) couple in which the woman was the dominant one. It always turns out that he's beaten down, or she's unsatisfied with his lack of assertiveness. Are you generally submissive (socially), or only with your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:45 PM
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So, I haven't read it, nor will I see the movie, so I can't really interact with any of this. Except... The characters names are actually Steele and Grey? Like really? This naming choice is presented unironically? Could you really write three books with out once having an argument whether Steele is a shade of Grey (or is it too blue to qualify as strictly grey)? My mind is exploding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:39 PM
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You're not addressing the dynamic though, just the ability to perform within it. Physical appeal isn't relevant here. All things being equal, would you consider an intelligent and dominant woman for both relationship and sex? What about an intelligent submissive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:22 PM
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Holy shit...it's like I just played "find the vegan." So, you should read better. I said "when men are coached by women to be/act in certain ways in order to attract women." Let's assume, just for a moment (I know it will be hard, but give it the ol' college try), that these guys are already decent people. They just can't seem to attract women. Because that's what we're talking about. We're talking about good men, who can't get dates, or can't transition to relationships, or can't even get the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:13 PM
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Uh...no. That's not even close to what I said. Not even related. But since you brought it up. I get annoyed when men are coached by women to be/act in certain ways in order to attract women, and when those bullshit methods fail, they say shit like "Oh, you think you're entitled to sex because you achieved basic human decency?" Yeah, that's pretty fucking annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 02:36 AM
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Soooo, have sex with ugly people? I'll pass, but have fun. That "block", as you called it, is called an "erection" - if she doesn't give me one I don't want sex. Pretty basic. Your misunderstanding is so monumental I'm not even going to acknowledge the rest of your comment. Except that I just did...but I won't again!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:51 PM
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The advice about bettering yourself physically, dressing well and doing well in life is all good. You'll also find this advice in the general sphere outside trp. Yeah, but it doesn't get you laid. It just keeps you from getting in your own way. Confidence, teasing, being a tiny bit cocky, behaving as though you have other options are all good. Hearing that from someone, without any practical advice on how to actually make it happen is useless. TRP is the first place I've seen a collection of rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:44 PM
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The problem was that your analogy was idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 09:06 PM
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Glad you saw the light!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:39 AM
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My guess is that it's new guys complaining, or just ones that don't get it. Even if they whine about it, it remains true. And I'm not saying "refusal to consider" doesn't exist. I've been there myself, and everyone should. If someone isn't up to the standards you hold for yourself, you shouldn't be with them. The consequences may be that you end up alone because your standards are stupid, but that's the choice you make. Besides, what you describe is the same as an attractive woman who thinks her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 03:13 PM
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Sounds like he's trying to become attractive enough that his equal gets his motor running. He's not "refusing to consider anything." You can't negotiate attraction. Not even with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:29 PM
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His physical equal in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:02 AM
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You think that sexual attraction isn't important in a relationship? Or are you just objecting to phrasing? Because that'd be pretty weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 09:00 AM
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I was thinking more that she already hit the wall and is trying to take what she can now.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 12:41 AM
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Makes me wonder how old MOH is...
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 06:19 PM
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Seriously. And this story should be revealed to everyone the MOH ever dates, as a caveat emptor.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 06:17 PM
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People in /r/relationships and /r/personalfinance post on those subs because they want advice for their problems. People in those subs give advice because they enjoy giving advice with something that they are experienced with. However, knowledge about personal finance and relationships doesn't necessitate visiting /r/personalfinance or /r/relationships, and they are common experiences that nearly everybody has to contend with. People who come to /r/theredpill did not have 'redpill experience' or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:27 AM
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No, I am happy to discuss how redpillers are trying to change their personality traits. Wow, I did not expect that to actually bring you full circle. If this is in fact true, stop changing the subject. Yes, if they had a temperament that makes them unkind or extroverted, it will be extremely difficult or impossible for them to change. Also, extroverted =/= having social skills. An introvert can possess plenty of social skills. The trick is to work with your own personality traits for self-improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:12 AM
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Do you know how to read? I was giving examples of why 'self' doesn't only consist of 'sense of self'. And you were doing it to deflect attention from our discussion of redpillers "trying to change your fundamental personality traits". I just wanted to point that out. Again. Deciding that you are a kind person doesn't make you a kind person. Deciding that you are an extrovert doesn't make you an extrovert. Deciding that you are not paranoid doesn't make you not paranoid. You're right, but decidin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:50 AM
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You think if you say that enough times it will become true? I'll take that bet. Okay, so you are saying that TRP actually has basis in evidence, and that the front page isn't continuously flooded with anecdotes that demonstrate confirmation and selection bias? Um...we were talking about what I do, not what's on the TRP front page. So what made it work for you? Did you apply manipulation tactics to make a woman stay in a relationship? Did you lure somebody into a relationship under the premise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:34 AM
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No, "you" is also an assembly of personality traits, cognitive and behavioural patterns, etc. You don't get to definitively decide who you are. Deciding to think you are wealthy doesn't make you wealthy. Deciding to think that you are intelligent doesn't make you intelligent. Absurdity! I've missed you so! When did wealth and intelligence become personality traits? Or did you forget that quickly that we were talking about people changing their personalities? Have you even stopped to study what i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 12:23 AM
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No, you are using your own anecdotes and the anecdotes of others in the bitter men's brigade to draw sweeping conclusions about human cognition and behaviour. You think if you say that enough times it will become true? I'll take that bet. Have you ever considered that your experiences with women were negative because you surround yourself with shitty women, or are a shitty person yourself? My past experiences with women sucked because I was a self-conscious little bitch. My experiences with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 12:18 AM
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trying to change your fundamental personality traits, and everything that makes you you necessitates self-hatred. I am the thing that makes me me. If I decide I want to change part of me, that I don't like one of my fundamental personality traits, I can change it. That doesn't make me not me. Because "me" is what I decide it is. redpillers are trying to change who they are as people in order to get laid. Bzzzzzt. Sorry, you're incorrect, but we have some lovely parting gifts for you. Redpillers …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:56 PM
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We bow before your omniscience, oh omni-science one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:34 PM
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Apparently I'm hooked...I'm gonna try to wean myself off. I'm banned from TRP I meant in PPD Did the confidence that helped you get your job have to be paired with psuedoscience Let's all be honest, pseudoscience is the most fun science. Also, what? Neither science nor pseudoscience is involved. There are these things called "ideas" that I like to try out in life. It's kinda fun. or are you only capable of being confident when you believe that every woman around you is an emotional harpy intent …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 11:06 AM
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You are using redpill anecdotes to conclude that all women are _. False. I'm using personal experience to navigate new experiences. It's called "learning". I have met and befriended many, many people in many different countries, and of socioeconomic statuses, in my lifetime, and as such my anecdotal data is probably far better than yours. Well aren't you special. But until you start dating women here (as in, where I live), you're experience (and frankly your data) don't mean shit in the real wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 10:39 AM
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This is it: I fold. I yield. But I have a parting message. I'd imagine that you are keen to get into discussions about your relationship. You'd be wrong. At least, when it comes to hostile Reddit strangers. I talk plenty about it with my friends and family. I'm grown, I've been through life, I've read some books and written some grad essays on relationships and sexuality. I've been in counseling and worked as a counselor. I think I can find the resources on my own. But, assuming it's a good fait…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 10:11 AM
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Okay...so anecdotes override peer-reviewed scientific research? Good to know. No. Just...no. Your argumentum ad absurdum notwithstanding, even with your example, you've met men that are stupid, men who were abusive, and men who were irrational. So which are you going to put on all men? Or are you combining them all? Were they all like that? Doubtful...yeah, that fell apart quickly. Getting life advice from an internet forum is a result of insecurity. Insecurity is necessary for the desire to ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:48 AM
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You have now become absurdity. Congrats. But some quick hits: It's the anecdotes from personal experience that really matter. If the other shit worked, we'd be doing that instead. If this didn't, we'd find something else. I am clearly asking: why is it okay for you to be insecure It's not. The sub is about change. Pay attention to the answers to your own questions. The fact that people had good relationships w/o strict gender roles doesn't mean RP requires an irrational person. Non sequitur much…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:10 AM
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What were you looking for? If you want answers to a question about how men and women thing and behave regarding sexuality or relationships, please let me know and I will be happy to provide you with some information. Thanks for the offer, but you're about 5 years late. Also, I had access to plenty of materials...libraries and the internet being pretty common these days. But I won't overlook your generosity! I don't really see TRP shaming an interest in sex, and while I'd be ashamed of continuing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 08:24 AM
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Yeah, the men who show up to TRP are insecure and discontent. Otherwise they wouldn't be looking for advice. That's just obviously true. You have not reached some deep level of insight here. Also, you don't realize that most of us did the "peer reviewed, experimental" approach, and it yielded nothing. Them we have the list of things I/we should apparently be ashamed of: liking sex, having previously been a social and romantic failure, expressing emotion on Reddit, using the feedback loop of my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 07:43 AM
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"Gleaned." I don't really have any comment on the content of your post, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:09 AM
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Just want to point out that he said the academy has an anti-conservative bias, not that "science" is liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:11 AM
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Sure, no restrictions on them having sex with other people, just in them having sex with each other. This is perfectly reasonable in every social group I've been a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:45 AM
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How did no one else think of this as satire? One of you even mentioned Cypher...I'm so confused!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:41 AM
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I will readily accept the label "douche". It's pretty benign, and basically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:04 AM
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I was just too self-deluded to realize that hygiene and fashion were important This isn't really the issue, though. In my youth i was impeccably groomed and have always had strong fashion sense. But that didn't really affect anything. Yes, the world lies. It just does. Communicate, be emotional, don't be forward, always be polite, blah blah blah. And any time I doubted it there was a steady stream of voices reinforcing it, from friends to media. This is not so simple as shower and shave and pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 07:09 PM
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You realize you just agreed with OP, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 07:08 PM
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So if a people within a group complain about difficulty or failure it invalidates their belief/purpose and/or makes them hypocrites? If people aren't good at something and others want to help them improve, how else should it be done?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:03 AM
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So are /r/fitness and /r/loseit. What's your point? People talk about success and failure in an appropriate environment. This is logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 09:50 PM
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I used to give my card when a girl was attractive but uninteresting. I didn't feel like doing any work, but if we chatted for 15 minutes and I thought I might remember who she was later, then whatever. Only 1 of the 50 or so got in touch, but it wasn't important, because I was actively pursuing the ones that interested me. If you're actually interested, always get the number.
/r/askTRP20/01/15 11:22 PM
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I mean, I could see where you're coming from...but reality has supported RP ideas about women. And not even ones I interact with romantically. My SO's friends, coworkers, other philanthropy volunteers...80% of them fall in line with what I expect based on RP. The other 20% are remarkable, don't get me wrong. But they're only 20%. And who really "understands" women, besides women? And are they even that good at it? Doubtful. But they don't understand us all that well either, so it's a draw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 02:23 AM
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Add in a dash of bitterness from being burned in the past I see references to this dropped in a lot of BP comments. And every time I wonder...what's your point? Yes, I got burned a few times. I was an indecisive, spineless moron. But are you going to tell me you never got burned? False. So when you got burned, did you do things differently, or chalk it up to a one-time fluke and act the same? What about the next time you got burned? Fool me once, shame on you... Everybody's been burned, in some …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:38 PM
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Agreed. Except that the "but..." is implied in the phrase. No sexually attractive person gets described as having "an amazing personality." They get called great, amazing, awesome, charming, wonderful, perfect, ... When someone says "amazing personality" it's like code. Like "it's not you, it's me."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:44 PM
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If a man initially thinks a woman is a 6/10, yet after getting to know and enjoy spending time with her decides she is an 8, is it still right to count this toward physical attraction? No. It get's added to the composite score. If she's physically an 8, but a drunken idiot...she's still hot. I'm just staying on the other side of the room. If she's physically a 6, but insightful, intelligent, and sensual...she's still average looking, but way more "attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:28 PM
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I, personally, have never wanted anyone to say I have "an amazing personality". Because anyone who says that has excluded me as even a potential sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:25 PM
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But they still look nice, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 05:18 PM
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Yeah, I didn't concede that he chose "bad girl, female cad". You just fill your questions with flawed conclusions. If the next branch was an LTR, then sure, he got had, and needs to improve himself. But I stand by the conclusion that this is exactly the type of man this woman wants. Because he's way less likely to leave her. It's not an indicator of quality...but that's why it's called "settling".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 04:48 PM
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Obviously if she's settling, she wants this type of guy, because she has all the power. He's not going anywhere. why did they happen to those men unless they chose to be with someone that was too good for them and/or was a female cad, bad-girl? Because he chose a woman in his league who thought she was better, because she was able to hook up with someone slightly better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:31 PM
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I don't think any reasonably sane person wants just one or the other. For the most part, we all want both. But it seems like we only want one or the other, because it's scarce. If sex is easy for a particular man to come by, he's probably going to value the emotional commitment more than others. And if commitment is easy for a particular woman, she'll value sex. But it rarely happens that way. Being "physically" desired isn't the thing, it's being "fully" desired. If someone you value only wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 03:24 PM
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It was a pretty basic interpretation of what you've said. Paraphrase: Sure, women have easier access to sex, but sex is not as important to them...yada, yada, we lack perspective, suffer solipsism. Men just want women to acknowledge that the access they have is significant, even if it's not their end goal...yada, yada, weirded out. EDIT: BTW, your example of a couple is true, but doesn't fit the context. I say they were at least balsa wood men, or corrugated cardboard cutouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:19 PM
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So when a man is dissatisfied, and women don't care because they see the issue differently, it's normal. But when a woman is dissatisfied and men don't care because they see the issue differently, it weirds you out? I agree with your premise so often, but your conclusions are usually nonsensical at best. It's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:53 PM
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Her options are to be used by the 6 or date the 4 who doesn't seem all that excited to date her either? The male 4 would probably be happy to date her, and excited to get her full attention. But he won't, because she'll believe against all reason that the 6 who came over to watch a movie last night (or someone like him) is eventually going to pick her. Females and males are not the same. How you feel about sex and how she feels about it are not congruent. Truth. But what's your actual point? He …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:09 PM
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It would be "exhausting trying to change who you are all the time in order to play games with people." But that's not the idea...the idea is to change it once to something that is still you, but the version that achieves your goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:18 PM
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If that's the way you prefer, then more power to you. I'm not saying that my method is better than yours. I'm only saying your method wouldn't work for me. That's cool. Then again, I like my core personality to begin with. You didn't. That's a massive difference. I stuck with my core personality because I liked it. But no one else did, and it failed me over and over. If yours is successful for you, then that's the whole point, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:15 PM
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I basically agree with you about making your own happiness. But finding another single adult who gets that, and succeeds at it, and who's individual happiness is compatible with yours is definitely not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:58 PM
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When a fit woman becomes a landwhale, there's always a hell of a lot more wrong than appearance...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:37 AM
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So I'm not sure why you guys always use this as an example of her beating you in life or something. Not sure what thread you were reading, but this was an example of why geeks dating each other in high school doesn't translate to the real world. Neither of these unfortunate characters are beating me at anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:44 AM
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The latter. But she's not in it for the sex. She thinks the sex will lead to a relationship. But it won't. Poor girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:35 PM
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1 in 3 women is someone who would make some guy infinitely happy. Sure. I don't think anyone would dispute that. As for the rest, I think you're incredibly optimistic. Or you think it's incredibly easy for a woman to make a man happy. Or to make me happy. Most of the men I know are (rightfully so) waaaay pickier than that. And as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather be alone than in an "average" relationship. So maybe with 1/10 women I meet who are single and my age I have an "extended interaction".…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:34 PM
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I'd say it hasn't changed all that much. Youth, height, clear skin, and physical viability/vitality, stability have pretty much always been the thing. There was a time when being a bit plump meant you were rich, so that made you stable and vital. But that's no longer true...being overweight signals a lack of self control and poor health. The underlying property that was attractive hasn't changed, just the surface attribute that signals it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:13 PM
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1 in 3 women you meet is someone you'd marry? Lucky you!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 10:31 PM
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Well now you're just being disingenuous. Geek male, rated 2, gets makeover. Is now 4. Dates 3s and 4s. Geek female, rated 2, gets makeover. Is now 4. "Talks to"/hooks up with 5s and 6s (occasionally a drunk 6.5). Ignores geek male. Not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 10:30 PM
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Are we in high school? HS is a restricted SMP. Most don't have cars, if they do, they probably have curfew. You have class, you have activities, etc, etc. Those geeks were stuck with each other. Now put them on a college campus. The girl geeks can do a quick makeover and start "talking to" some guys that are out of their league. They'll flirt, and hook up once in a while, but that's it. Since they'll never realize that they aren't real LTR options, they raise their expectations, now the geek guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 09:58 PM
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"Who I am" is something I created. I chose the things I'd be interested in, the people I'd associate with, the views that I'd support. I chose the personality I'd exhibit, and ascribed moral value to all of those things. And I was fucking miserable. At some point a few years ago I realized that there was one reason I was dateless and unsatisfied with all of my friendships (but one...that dude was and still is the best guy I know). It was because I sucked. I didn't know why yet, but the only comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 09:17 PM
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Well that's just not true. Not all, but most of us were there. And got rogered. And not everyone things "casual sex is the be-all end-all". It's fun though. Especially when you crest that first hill on the road of self-improvement, and suddenly realize that affection isn't something you have to "earn" or "work for", or whatever phrase described your previously pathetic relational skills. Then for some it gets old. Or maybe you meet someone - the unicorn, I guess. Or you decide it's time for TRP …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 09:06 PM
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From /u/sh1v: "The element missing in your analysis is that you can actually change who you are. You want as much as possible of your real persona to be attractive/high quality. Dont just fake assertive, be assertive..." And so on and so forth. You can change, improve...actually be the "persona [you] created", then everything is real. But it's easier to fake it. And it's even easier to assert the moral superiority of being "yourself". EDIT: It's certainly better to be alone than be living a lie,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:52 PM
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TRP is about sexual strategy. This is like complaining that a children's charity doesn't spend enough time talking about abandoned pets. "They're homeless and hungry, too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 03:52 PM
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Almost as much as he likes "sociopath"...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 03:47 PM
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A man is easier to get in bed than a woman, but based on the romantic adventures of my female friends, they are definitely not easier to keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:25 AM
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Yeah...That's what "brought it up" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 09:53 PM
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You're the one that brought it up. Edit: and my personal, anecdotal evidence is plenty to determine my own behavior in approach situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 09:50 PM
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You only have to hear a few variations of "I didn't think you were my type", "Facial hair is normally a deal breaker, but...", "I only really date white guys," in bed to realize that, no, most women do not actually know what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 09:38 PM
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When she's in tears and vulnerable, protector instincts kick in. Had to remind myself: "she's bawling because I wont support her getting random cock". That made things easier. Funny, when women cry in front of me, irritated father kicks in. "If you leave your toy in the parking lot, someone's going to take it." "If you don't take care of your things, I'm going to take them away." "When you're done crying you can tell me what's wrong." Seems appropriate.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 07:36 PM
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Anger is incredibly instructive, if you can identify its source. It's a secondary emotion, caused by grief, sadness, betrayal, etc. Find the source, figure out the issue, and fix it. The anger is the key to knowing what really bothers you and needs to be fixed most importantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 05:57 PM
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Just use her name...
/r/seduction16/12/14 08:04 AM
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The only thing I would say is if your friends take her side after a breakup, you're doing it wrong. Last year, for about 8 months, I dated someone who was in my circle long before me. I didn't tell anyone the deets of the breakup, and she tried to trash me. But I took care of them during the relationship, and they took care of me after. She ended up finding new friends.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 02:58 PM
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Sounds like they're living rent free in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 02:42 AM
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Also the fact that he can't seem to find the shift key.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 07:24 PM
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You are quite insightful sir. I retract every rude thing I've ever said about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:23 PM
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"You should take ibuprofen for a headache." "ha, that's what the white racist separatists said!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:11 PM
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ELI5 again: you redefined TRP's "alpha/beta" to fit your argument, i.e. alpha is physical attractiveness only, and beta is all character traits. So I redefined your "A/P" to fit what TRP actually says. Keep saying TRP is only about physical attractiveness...it might become true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:52 PM
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MRW when /u/taiboworks types things There is literally no way you are employed as a personality researcher if you can't understand the most basic aspect of social research: The way you ask a question frames the entire interaction. Are you real?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:39 PM
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AF=A (physical attractiveness + social attractiveness) BB=P (availability + desire to please). FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:33 PM
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applause
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:04 PM
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Again, it makes me think you aren't very good at the personality research if you reject basic anthropology. Tribal inclusion =/= tribalism. Unless you think that the Urban League and the Chamber of Commerce are about to start warring like it's Imperial China. Modernity is ostensibly about individualism, but the influence and benefit of tribal inclusion is basic to society. I'm baffled by how in one thread you call people sociopathic narcissists for caring about themselves more than society, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:55 PM
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You're implying that the desire to be part of a group is some kind of pathology or weakness? You're not really good at this "personality researcher" thing, are you? Tribal inclusion is an evolutionary advantage. Full stop. And are we now going to denigrate people because their parents failed? Talk about scum bag behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:33 PM
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I'll try this ELI5 style: I'm a large muscular black male and exist in overwhelmingly white environments. No one says rude things to my face (except my ex-wife, I guess). I have no reason to expect different from you, faceless internet stranger. That better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:18 PM
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Dude, you're hilarious. I was going to stop, but you just keep getting more ridiculous. I do love a gold star. It's cuz they're shiny, and I like shiny shit. You forgot to include the sociopaths and narcissists in your first paragraph here. I'm really excited to see what you might say about them. TRP encourages people to use different language to describe their beliefs, because people like you will focus on one word ("plating") and run wild in the field like a boar on coke. So, we've made it bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:06 PM
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This is the perfect analogy I've been looking for. It is the dagger. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:54 PM
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Oh, you've researched it? Well you're obviously right. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:52 PM
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Well, this has been really fun. This is where I leave you. A few parting thoughts: 1: You're a jackass. 2: Honest people who happen to be accepting of something you loathe, but which is engaged in with transparency, are far preferable to self-righteous pricks who believe they are the definer of standards for society. That is one way I determine "quality" in people. 3: I was wrong to be sarcastic earlier, you are good at debating. But you're good at it in the way that Bill Belichick is good at co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:33 PM
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My guess is that when you insult someone, no one takes it seriously, because you sound like a self-important tight ass. A "cad" behaves dishonorably. Honesty, especially in sexual interactions, is anything but dishonorable. Feel free to try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:24 PM
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Yes, quite unstable. No one's ever really sure whether I might become immediately violent. Y'know, because I'm a big black guy. Not really a threat, though. And you're right, trolling the terminal behavior of a self righteous prick is just as fruitless, so I'm almost done. Just have to tie up some loose ends. that's not true. as a self proclaimed sociopath red piller said on this subreddit before, being honest with plates is more of a challenge, and thus more rewarding. Well, since someone who's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:21 PM
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Personally: I favor long-term for both. But I'm careful about who I align myself with. So I end up with a number of short-term connections for every one long term connection. But we've all met people who prefer flings but have long-term close friends. This is not new information. Well, you probably don't keep up with them, as you're convinced they're sociopaths. But they exist. Promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:36 AM
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I still doubt you'd say it to me in person. if not, show me a past post where you have indicated you have a problem with how many red pillers treat, talk about women? I don't waste my time trolling the behavior of temporarily angry people. They won't listen to me, and they'll get the appropriate social response to their behavior in the real world. tell me how plating women is considerate behavior and not sociopathic? Plating women, if you are up front about the fact that you aren't exclusive, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:33 AM
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why isn't respecting others emphasized? Because respecting others is another one of those things that goes without saying. So no one says it. how can someone that has a problem being too nice be denigrating towards others, a whole gender? or hang around a board/forum where that behavior is common. Hurt, frustrated, and angry people do a lot of things that pass as the emotion is processed. Like denigrate a whole group of people when they're really mad at a couple specific members. It's not right,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:19 AM
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Your statement here means people who only want short term romantic/sexual relationships also only want short term friendships - y'know, since they "can't or don't want to connect with people in a meaningful way". Doesn't pass the smell test.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:58 AM
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You're super good at this debating thing. You should run for office. I don't say it in either context. I do act the same in public and private (and on the internet). And, like /u/BlackHeart89, my friends will call me an asshole, but they love and respect me, and always want me around. You, however, probably wouldn't say what you just said to my 6'3", 240 lb black ass. Your consistent use of ad hominems has proven you the loser here. So accept defeat and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:34 AM
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haha, the first. the second is an asshole. there is also a middle ground you are omitting. red pillers just don't get that no one actually likes assholes. people that are only nice to a select few are assholes. The question was rhetorical, because it's obvious, and you're deluded. A highly valued aspect of any close relationship - be it best friend or SO - is that you do things for each other that you wouldn't do for anyone else. That's how you know that person thinks you're connection is specia…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:25 AM
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If you actually read my whole comment, you'd see what I meant by "asshole", and why I scare-quoted it. That said, I'm pretty sure we know that calling women sluts isn't a great way to attract them, yes. In fact, it generally goes without saying (so we don't actually say it).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:06 AM
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If you knew a physically attractive person who does nice things for everyone, or a physically attractive person who does nice things only for you and a few select others, which would you respect more? Which would you rather date? (Don't worry, this question is rhetorical) Research isn't really relevant at this point. If you try one way for a decade and it doesn't work, try something different. If it works, great, if not, try something else. Personally, my current girlfriend knows I was seeing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:26 PM
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None of that opposes what I've seen in TRP discussions about finding and maintaining LTRs. But understanding and kindness are broad terms. The way you embody those traits will make a huge difference in your attractiveness to the opposite sex. Displaying the wrong kind of kindness and understanding leads to being a pushover. You can't have personal boundaries, because eventually they will cause you to reject you SO's behavior. But it's obvious to nearly everyone that boundaries are necessary for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:14 PM
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That's not the problem. The problem is the two questions it raises: a) what constitutes "attractive", and b) what does it mean to be a good person. The answer to A is where we get tripped up, because beyond being physically fit, the usual answers are wholly ineffective. And there's a point where a "good person" becomes a doormat and is totally unattractive, regardless of appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 06:59 PM
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Reward vs. Tribute You give a reward to someone beneath your station, and tribute to someone above it. We should be giving rewards.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/14 07:05 AM
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"What's it cost you?" That's the epitaph on the headstone of my marriage.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/14 06:51 AM
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This sounds way too much like something a pedo might do...
/r/TheRedPill24/11/14 06:21 AM
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I didn't come through RP explicitly, it just started to happen when I got sick of always doing what others wanted or thought I should and never seeing any results in life. I got selfish, and people responded positively. I became a marginal narcissist and people liked me more than ever. I started making women do all the work on dates (like driving 20+ miles to a bar by my place for a late drink) and they climbed in bed with almost no effort. I got bits and pieces about self improvement, increasin…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/14 06:10 AM
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Love/sex is identical to time/money in the market.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/14 07:59 AM
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I always started out sitting at the bar, so we were next to each other and it wasn't at all out of the ordinary. By the time you decide you want to move to a table, it's awkward to not be sitting next to each other.
/r/seduction10/11/14 09:24 PM
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Nothing. Soon enough your relationship will go to shit, she'll cheat, and/or she'll dump you. Then you'll get it back! Really, though...either you like improving yourself or you don't. I think it's better to like it, myself.
/r/seduction07/11/14 12:45 AM
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Well, yeah, that's exactly what happened. Because when I was taking those classes I was involved in emotionally-invested communication with those guys, in an attempt to get them to like me enough to date me (or at least let me smash). Are you serious with this shit? If you are: at first it was a way to remind myself that I didn't have to act desperate. Before I'd made that decision I'd been giving it a few weeks to a month, and it always proved to be a waste of effort. On top of that, I felt lik…
/r/seduction03/11/14 04:44 PM
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When I was single I'd give it three days. If we hadn't met up by then, I walked away. Once I started investing time, I'd end up throwing good money after bad, then letting it get to my self esteem when it (inevitably) didn't happen. I read something about 3 years ago that when you invest time thinking about someone, you become attached like you'd spent time together...but it only happens for you. Suddenly you're all invested and she doesn't think about you at all. It's tough to hold frame after …
/r/seduction03/11/14 07:51 AM
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I'd upvote this again if I could. "No wonder your fiance left you." It was presented as fightin' words, but it was just truth.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 01:56 AM
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This is cool. My first thought is that, you know, #Lent beat you out by a minute or two to the idea. But, then again, most people halfheartedly give up shit they don't actually care about, then brag on themselves for 6 weeks because they stopped going to Starbucks. Plus, I have a feeling there'll be more real community support for anyone taking this on, since the goal here is to be extraordinary, rather than simply avoiding the appearance of laziness and doing as little as possible. I'll have to…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 09:42 PM
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I agree with all that...those are the type of qualities that separate women who find the relationships they're seeking. I used to attach those things with sexual availability, like you suggest...but then I met plenty of basic, insecure, self-focused women, who withheld sex because it was all they had to offer. At the same time I was meeting accomplished, talented, interesting women who were sexually open because they knew they had more to offer, and could set the terms of their interactions. I r…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 08:02 AM
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They aren't failing to find it because they're hoping into bed. Your wife didn't hold onto you simply by not sleeping with anyone else, right? I'd bet she did it by having more to offer than sex. How long it took to get into bed hasn't colored my opinion of any of the women I've been with...their other qualities were the difference.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 06:19 AM
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It also pushes the lie that men have no choice but to think about sex all the time. But when you put the pussy on a pedestal (it took me way to long to really get that), sex is just another part of a full life. Unlike when I had a scarcity mentality, and I couldn't think of anything else for long.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 04:34 AM
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I'm not advocating for Node, or NoSQL, or for Javascript as a great language. I'm just pointing to where money is. Companies want to use it, but "real" developers hate it, so take advantage. If you were in the field for 5+ years, I don't think you can really comment on the current state of things. I think it'd be hard to find a position like yours without a degree now a days. It's not like I left the field. I'm still getting headhunted. And I got hired on for a cush job less than a year ago afte…
/r/askTRP
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I'm glad you're well paid. Have to disagree all the way across, though. I'm self taught (I have a degree, but it's in the humanities), and I'm in the same salary bracket. In my last round of interviews the highest paying positions were both for companies moving their platforms to Node, and one using NoSQL. This was just at the endnof last year. So whether you and your colleagues think it's dead doesn't change the fact that it's where the money is right now. And your last comment really depends o…
/r/askTRP
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The answers from /u/raceAround126 and /u/crixusin are partially true, but insufficient. If you want to be a programmer, they're right. But you're looking at being a developer. I took the path you're starting. I started teaching myself in '07, and got my first dev job at the end of '08 making $18/hr. In December of last year I hit 6-figure salary, and there's no indication that I'm slowing down. If you're looking at Javascript as your specialty, certifications are irrelevant. Learning the program…
/r/askTRP
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Orgasm PR
/r/askTRP
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