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Intactivismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:22 PM
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Social Issuesskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights10/01/16 03:14 PM
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Edu./Occu.skepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights27/09/15 08:21 PM
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Feminismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights06/02/16 05:45 AM
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Anti-MRMskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights12/11/15 12:44 AM
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Generalskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:53 PM
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Social Issuesskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights06/02/16 01:50 AM
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False Accusationskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights10/02/16 12:37 AM
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Generalskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights13/11/15 03:02 AM
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Intactivismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:14 AM
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Feminismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights08/11/15 10:58 PM
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Feminismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights16/09/15 12:56 AM
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Questionsskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights27/11/15 07:46 PM
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Generalskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights19/11/15 10:05 PM
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skepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights19/11/15 09:11 PM
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Feminismskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:04 AM
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Edu./Occu.skepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights19/11/15 06:09 PM
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Generalskepticalbipartisan/r/MensRights10/12/15 01:00 AM
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Don't have the stats but something like 60-70% of non-reciprocal DV is perpetrated by women.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 03:32 PM
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You're right. It could be abused that way. I don't agree with everything in this piece. My point is only that there is nothing wrong here re normalisation. Do you mean normalization as it pertains to the math ie. the statistics? Or do you mean it in regards to the social philosophy behind the entire article? The distinction is very important. Normalization in STEM is a necessity. Yes, it can be a con. That is what peer review is for and what feminists are ignoring when they push this wage gap li…
/r/MensRights31/05/16 11:00 PM
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My biggest issue with this 8% pay gap tax, is that it is actually an incentive for women to earn less. If a woman has to work 8% less to make the same money a man would, what's stopping her from doing so? Especially if their company isn't doing anything to control for why women earn less? Sure some might work the same and benefit from making more than their male counterparts. But how likely is this given womens propensity to value homelife over worklife? They could inadvertantly be contributing …
/r/MensRights31/05/16 03:57 PM
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Pay gap is defined as the relative difference in gross hourly earnings of women and men. By definition if you normalise then you're lieing. Except it doesn't take into account the hours worked. It's the average annual earnings. They don't account for things such as overtime, danger pay, location premiums, or extra time off. If it were a WAGE gap it would be represented as an actual wage (dollars per hour). The reason you don't see this calculation being done is because men work more hours on ave…
/r/MensRights31/05/16 03:22 PM
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Enlighten me then oh lord of the gaps.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 01:19 PM
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Let me get this straight... There's a ~27% difference between the amount of money the average man earns over a woman. Saying it's about choices = normalization = bad? Saying it's about sexism = only true answer = good? Logic seems sound.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 10:34 AM
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Some animals are more equal than others.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 10:29 AM
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Canada. I didn't mean to imply it was particularly common or anything. I have actually broached this subject with a wide number of people. It's weird because they never say it's because of the bible but it's always the religious ones who will try and justify mutilating babies. Needless to say I've had some heated conversations about this.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 02:13 AM
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I'm well aware. Yet MGM still exists. How is this possible? He's arguing that its neither religious nor medical...
/r/MensRights30/05/16 07:17 PM
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Seems you don't understand that circumcisions are happening legally at this very moment... How is this possible?
/r/MensRights30/05/16 07:15 PM
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Seems you don't understand that circumcisions are happening legally at this very moment... How is this possible?
/r/MensRights30/05/16 07:15 PM
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Please explain to me how the vast majority of boys in my Roman Catholic school were circumcized legally? Like look, I agree with you. It's a stupid practice but you will get nowhere if you don't understand the other sides argument. The fact that you see the issue clearly does not change the fact that others most certainly don't.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 06:49 PM
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No it means their faith betrayed them. Perhaps they were misguided, as many are. Besides the whole "therapeutic medical reasons" are the exact ones people use to justify the practice in the first place.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 06:35 PM
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And Islam is a religion of peace. Doesn't change the fact that my Roman Catholic dick was snipped.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 06:10 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 06:08 PM
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Catholics perform circumcision (trust me) and they are certainly Christian.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 05:36 PM
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A few reasons I've been told I'm "not a man": Didn't have a job. Don't own a car. Wouldn't have sex with a woman. Playing video games. Didn't join the military. Basically any time I've done something for myself and not others. If having a penis doesn't make me a man, why would not having one disqualify me?
/r/MensRights08/05/16 02:34 PM
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Your concern is noted.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 02:13 AM
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Absolutely. I've been on both sides and the power lies in who is more desperate.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 11:38 PM
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Be a good partner. 2. Don't be critical, lazy, or possessive. 3. Don't cheat on your boyfriend. Clearly we are asking too much and gender roles are super restrictive for women.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:14 PM
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I thought the same thing. However, in the interest of fairness here's the context: There is a big difference between the guy who immediately rolls over on his back and begs for a job and the guy who knows he's got as much to offer the company as the company has to offer him. When you're with a girl, don't act like you're interviewing to be her boyfriend. Imagine instead that you're interviewing her to be your girlfriend. Putting yourself in the power position will not only make you more attracti…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:03 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/17/watch-live-milo-yiannopoulos-and-christina-hoff-sommers-at-the-university-of-minnesota/
/r/MensRights18/02/16 12:03 AM
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I absolutely agree. The emphasis should be on teaching them what the foreskin is for. Hopefully implementing this would coincide with the realization that circumcision on infants should be treated as genital mutilation. Fuck I hate talking about this. How can people so vehemently defend such a barbaric practice?!
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:39 PM
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I hate that this shit happens. Just know that if you get into trouble there are many people here who will have your back. I don't hear much PC/SJW nonsense coming out of Beantown. How bad is it? I was under the impression they were more traditionally minded than say New York or San Fran.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:34 PM
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I admit I reacted hastily. I just don't think that's how we tackle the male circumcision problem. We need to convince parents, not children.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:24 PM
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No. This is a terrible idea. Edit: I'm anti-MGM but I don't think we should be telling boys there is something wrong with them either.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:20 PM
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Might I ask where you live roughly? Background/race/ethnicity? I'm really only asking for my own curiosity, not hoping to infer anything from your answers.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:19 PM
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I gotta give credit where it is due: That was the most convincing argument I have yet to see.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:12 PM
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Oh you have no idea friend.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 03:19 PM
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Found the muslim!
/r/MensRights17/02/16 01:22 PM
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Video of the incident and her claim
/r/MensRights15/02/16 09:15 PM
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Wow. It's going to be a good year!
/r/MensRights15/02/16 02:59 PM
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Not gonna lie, I thought I accidentally ended up in r / foreveralone
/r/MensRights15/02/16 11:24 AM
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I'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned with those things, that's none of my business. What you think women want says a lot about the kind of women you want. There's nothing wrong with that but I think you're probably a lot pickier than you're admitting here.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 01:22 AM
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I'm not picky I doubt that. Not trying to be a dick about it but you seem far too concerned with superficial things for me to believe that. Stop going after the girls who don't text you back and start talking to the ones who do.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 01:06 AM
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Why do you feel so threatened by men's rights?
/r/MensRights14/02/16 11:09 PM
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Fuck this guy. "Sit down and shut up?" Really? You fucking first bud. Patronizing piece of shit.
/r/MensRights14/02/16 10:51 PM
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Kinda off topic: London is one of my favourite cities. http://www.uwo.ca/womens/ http://www.uwo.ca/mens/
/r/MensRights14/02/16 10:06 PM
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There are three complainants in the Ghomeshi trial. One of them (Lucy Decoutere) waived their right to anonymity. The other two are anonymous and there's a media ban on their identities.
/r/MensRights14/02/16 01:06 AM
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Yikes that's one hell of a mess! I'd hate to have been one of those judges. I honestly can't say I disagree entirely with their deliberation. There are all kinds of legal problems inherent in BDSM culture. Consent while unconscious is such a tricky thing to have to consider and ultimately I agree with how the case played out, though I don't like it. It's always strange when the constitution can actually cause you to have less rights in certain cases. As a classical liberal I often find these sor…
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:30 AM
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I am definitely on the same page as you. You've described perfectly my experience processing all of this information. It's a trial by judge.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 08:55 PM
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Eron is one hell of a strong dude. I've been in extremely similar relationships and they're hard enough to deal with on their own. I cannot imagine what it feels like being gaslighted by someone who can turn the media against you like that though. Shits insane.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 06:11 PM
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Thank you for such a detailed response. The whole case seems like a bunch of women were into rough sex because they were into Ghomeshi and he was into rough sex. Turns out he wasn't into them and they weren't actually into rough sex. You did a really good job of explaining what I meant even though I did a poor job of phrasing it. The reason I compared it to "rape fantasy" was the lack of any real mention of how the "victim" felt. I should have called it poorly written but that's why I called in …
/r/MensRights11/02/16 05:57 PM
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Have you read her post about dropping the harassment charges?
/r/MensRights11/02/16 05:06 PM
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what evidence should I present You clearly do not understand who you are dealing with. You'll be standing there with your evidence and the crowd will cheer her on as she gaslights you. Do not engage.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 04:04 PM
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Breach of confidentiality is what I believe he could go after them for.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 08:56 PM
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Turns out that's exactly what's going on. These women withheld information from the police, committed perjury, and were even found to be colluding with each other.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 05:11 PM
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Paging /u/girlwriteswhat You know the romance novel industry better than anyone I know. Don't these Ghomeshi accusations sound like rape fantasy narratives of scorned women? Why is there so much description of his actions and practically none of the pain he caused?
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:30 PM
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None of them are even claiming he hurt them (besides pulling their hair and making them cry). For a violently abusive guy, he was sure good at not actually doing any damage.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:22 PM
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I get where you are coming from. You could also argue that these are assault charges and not battery, so harm doesn't even need to have been done. I'm more referring to the public trial over social media. It's being equated to a rape case. All I know is this man is alleged to be "violently abusive" and attacked up to 23 women. Without hurting any of them?
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:09 PM
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There's nothing stopping you from doing that. In fact that's a healthy way to embrace your passion rather than fruitless debates with idealogues.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 02:19 AM
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Imagine trying to convince a Catholic that God doesn't exist. The worst that will happen is you'll be called immoral and they'll think you're going to hell. Now imagine trying to convince a Feminist that women aren't oppressed. You will be called a misogynist and they'll say you must hate women. They won't condemn you to hell, they'll send you through it. Be careful.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 02:05 AM
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A good simple rule: Find out what courses a girl is taking before making any advances. Stay away from anyone taking women's/gender studies. Try and find out if they are a feminist. If at any point you feel the need to debate, disengage politely and avoid further contact. Even this doesn't guarantee your safety but it's not exactly an epidemic of false accusations either. My best advice is to avoid random hook ups and learn about the people you want to sleep with before doing so.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 01:08 AM
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And were conspiring before the charges were filed.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 09:55 PM
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I told my story about the system. How is that making it about me? You seem to be the only one here that keeps saying that. Should I tell another story?? Yours? Sorry I only know mine. But if to you that make it all about me you TRULY are missing my point and I don't know how to make it any clearer you seem to be just an asshloe looking for someone to pick on. I'm not picking on you. I'm trying to help you. This is what? Your fourth thread on this now? What is it that you're looking for? You've b…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 01:02 AM
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Me you someone. Really what the hell is your problem here you seem to want blame me for seeing that the message isn't getting out. You keep making this about me. From what your saying I should just shut up and what? keep my opinions to myself? You made this about you. I'm not saying you should shut up, I'm just sharing my opinions about what you're saying. Why the fuck wouldnt you TELL me. As I ask you to "learn about what we're dealing with and how we're dealing with it " instead of just being …
/r/MensRights09/02/16 12:34 AM
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Then why have you posted your story everywhere but /r/Feminism? What more help do you need? If you're concerned about men's rights, well welcome to /r/MensRights. Why don't you learn about what we're dealing with and how we're dealing with it before you critique us? If you think that we should stop everything we're doing to rally behind one individual, why should that person be you?
/r/MensRights09/02/16 12:10 AM
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After my last post https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/44gio8/there_is_no_help/?ref=share&ref_source=link And posts in other subs telling you a lot of the same advice or offering you their sympathy. Rather then upvotes to make it to the front page and get these kind of storys out there. This isn't an uncommon story. Your story isn't remarkable. We're well aware that this is happening and offered you the best advice we can. Upvotes don't solve your problem. Rather then support. You're re…
/r/MensRights08/02/16 11:55 PM
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I'm not replying to all of that. If you want help talk to legal aid. I'm from Ontario and that shit about needing to be homeless to qualify is bullshit. I have personally used it myself.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 10:34 PM
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So you really are just a troll. Well done. Much effort.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 10:01 PM
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The fact that you made this post. Can you show me examples of people being dismissive and/or laughing at you?
/r/MensRights08/02/16 09:25 PM
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What about Jimmy Carr? He's kind of like a smarter Anthony Jeselnik.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:57 PM
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Meh we have an entire sub dedicated to whinging about us.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:20 PM
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This should be your first priority. Edit: I meant getting a paternity test, not claiming the child is yours. Just so I'm clear! Edit2: In case it isn't obvious do not give her any more money until you figure this out.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:13 PM
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I don't know what kind of help you're looking for but we can't make your problem magically go away. You have to be willing to help yourself. I do have sympathy for you and what you're going through. I have no interest in turning this into a flame war (unless you find it cathartic). You have enough to deal with. Perhaps I could have been less curt with you but the blatant disrespect for the people who offered their advice/support (and the sub in general) really rubbed me the wrong way.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:07 PM
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I'm not the easiest person to get along with in the world.. You weren't fucking kidding.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 05:17 PM
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Yeah he seems frustrated that we didn't make his story go viral. I checked the thread and there was tons of advice. Complaining that his post didn't make national news and blaming us for men losing rights is kind of a slap in the face.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 03:31 PM
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Let me get this straight. You were hoping we'd use your victimhood to advance our agenda? You were given plenty of support/advice. Now you're shitting on us because your story didn't blow up? Did you want help or did you want internet points? Do you really think those kinds of posts are uncommon here?
/r/MensRights08/02/16 02:49 PM
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Go volunteer at a homeless shelter.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 02:06 PM
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The reason she got a brutal beating was because she is the poster child for what is wrong with typical feminist discussion. MR was on point here and pretty civil about it all things considered.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 03:50 AM
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A girl "becomes a woman" when she has her first period. A boy "becomes a man" through rites of initiation/passages. (Eg. Getting a job, buying a car, moving out)
/r/MensRights07/02/16 03:02 PM
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Women are taught to be more submissive. You cannot teach someone to be submissive. The very fact that you say women are able to be taught to be submissive is proof that they are more submissive. You cannot teach someone who is unwilling to submit that they should submit. It doesn't make any logical sense.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 01:16 PM
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It says this video is private.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 03:22 AM
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So what are some of the major criticisms of her work that you discussed in these classes? At any point did you consider that these ideas/theories could be wrong?
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:32 AM
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I assure you that we are more familiar with feminism than you are. It's your views that need changing, not ours. Especially when you have been influenced by Jessica "I drink Male Tears" Valenti.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:16 AM
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The only people I saw claiming the NYE attacks in Cologne were false were Feminists. They said the attacks were being made up to push far-right anti-immigration agendas.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:00 AM
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This is MensRights first and foremost. Secondly, I wouldn't have asked if I thought this was CMV. I appreciate the fact you were able to at least passively admit you had no interest in changing your views. Makes it pretty clear why you were motivated to do an AMA here.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:32 PM
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Of course she is focused on women in her book about women's issues. Why is that a bad thing? Calling them "women's issues" when the same shit happens to men is extremely self-absorbed. If it isn't centered around men it's a waste of time? If it's centered around gender, its usually a waste of time. The fact that you assume this is my position says a lot about yours. Why does it have to be centered around peoples genitals? How does she blame me? Give me one example please I've seen you blame men …
/r/MensRights06/02/16 10:55 PM
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From a cursory glance of things she's written/said, I find her to be very gynocentric. She brings up a lot of good points but her focus is entirely on women. The things she talks about aren't gender exclusive issues. This is one of my personal pet peeves with most feminist critique. They're all about respecting people's lived experience as long as it's blaming men (especially straight white ones). As soon as a man speaks up about how he relates to what they are going through he's told to stop "m…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 10:33 PM
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Can you name some prominent Feminists that you'd consider to be "normal"?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 10:13 PM
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Grease monkey. Dudebro. Musclehead/meathead. Explain how the stigma around these are related to misogyny. Edit: being called a misogynist would be a badge of honor in a society that hates women.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:48 PM
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"Please accept hundreds of thousands of refugees but don't you suggest for a second that where they come from isn't peaceful."
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:29 PM
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I completely agree. They don't seem to be able to comprehend the concept or the importance of secularism. They have no problem saying bad things about opposing ideologies but cannot handle the idea of someone doing it to theirs.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:23 PM
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Things I have learned from having this same argument with multiple people: They'll accept no criticism from non-muslims/infidels. They'll always try to deflect or dismiss your ideas as bigoted. They blame the West for everything bad that has happened to them, even the things they do to themselves. Anything bad that happens to Westerners by Muslims is tantamount to "punching up". There is no getting through to them because their main goal isn't accepting their baggage, they want the type of contr…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:04 PM
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Or that feminism represents all women?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 06:58 PM
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Your examples are her using them anecdotally though I don't disagree with your points. She never blames it on them being men. I agree she isn't self-aware but she happens to identify the problem nonetheless.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 06:21 AM
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I cannot believe how much truth this lady speaks.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 05:51 AM
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Don't use the 'not interested in a relationship' line. It will bite you in the ass long term. Absolutely this. I can't count the number of times I've been told that by a girl and they end up in a relationship a couple days later. It's a pretty shitty feeling.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:18 AM
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Erin Pizzey <3
/r/MensRights28/01/16 02:39 AM
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This isn't a flaw. It's a solution. We're making the numbers work in our favour. More women than men means more women have to integrate. Given their gender dynamic, women from their culture fit better into western society than the men do.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 05:27 AM
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I mean, its not just because they are men. It's because they are men of a culture that has conflicting views on women. If there was a way to test whether or not they held these beliefs it would be inhumane to implement them. I'm totally aware of how I'm "white knighting" for women in this case. Fuck that sounds racist (Islam isn't a race!). However it's important to note exactly why the west isn't a rape culture/misogynist and that's because men fucking love women.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 05:22 AM
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I think limiting the men we bring in solves this problem. I hate it because I honestly believe it's a fair case of discrimination against men.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 05:03 AM
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Sooo you agree the USA should have not let in any Jews during WW2 Not any that we would have conscripted to fight, no. Take in the young, the sick and the elderly. I say make the men (and ideally the women) fight. and just told them to go fight Hitler or fuck off? I was thinking more like "come fight Hitler or fuck off" but yeah. Seriously. Why is this an issue?
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:57 AM
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Pretty much yeah. Seems consistently logical.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:49 AM
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Then we agree. The fact that men make up a certain percentage of the unemployment statistic doesn't tell you anything about whether it's a problem. You could have the unemployment rate be at its all time lowest and men could make up 75% of those unemployed. That's why gendering problems is disingenuous.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:47 AM
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What if you don't like either side? Should I join ISIS who raped my wife or should I join the Government who bombed by house. This only makes me think it's the best policy possible. You don't like us? Fuck you. Also the US draft is defendable because it is decided by people who were voted by the population, that's not the case in Syria. Why would a guy want to fight for a dictator who doesn't care about him? He should fight against him or fuck off to anywhere but my country.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:44 AM
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I think they should have to fight. If I'm willing to live in a country that has a draft then I see no issue in forcing single men of an able age to have to fight against their own enemy.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:14 AM
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Black is not an ideology.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:10 AM
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Considering what has been happening in Europe? I actually support this. (Edit: I don't support the gendered cabinet.)
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:07 AM
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This makes so much more sense when you realize who his mother was. We elected her son. Not Pierre's.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:06 AM
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How was she infected?
/r/MensRights23/01/16 04:03 AM
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In regards to your "Oppression Olympics" comment, I agree. I'm not particularly fond of taking a problem like "unemployment" and gendering it. However, if I am being forced to play them: Women prefer to "date up". Even your defense was biased by the fact women simply have more choices. You talked about how more women don't want to simply stay at home. I wasn't disputing that. You ignored the fact that those same women still want a man who can support himself, and even more so. I mean if she can …
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:53 AM
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You can be a housewife without being married or having children. Fuck you can be a housewife and not even do anything around the house. You're really going to tell me that jobless women face the same stigma jobless men do? How many "parents basement" jokes are levied at women?
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:27 AM
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You are absolutely correct. Steph Guthrie didn't decide if this was going to trial or not, the Crown did.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 02:16 AM
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A woman without a job can fall back on being a housewife. A man without a job is a social outcast.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 02:15 AM
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I knew we were fucked when he said his father was "from a different generation". Seriously? Pierre Trudeau wasn't progressive enough for him?
/r/MensRights23/01/16 02:12 AM
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I think it really depends on the environment/teachers more than anything.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:04 PM
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Empathy tho? In tech?
/r/MensRights19/01/16 10:20 PM
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I don't have the source but I've heard boys do better in a co-ed environment.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:48 PM
1

Does begging your long-term girlfriend for sex count? :/
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:39 PM
2

Yep she was given the choice. Pretty sure an angel even came and warned her some time before it happened too.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 06:14 PM
3

I've found that we tend to accuse the system that allows people to abuse it rather than the people who do it. It's the difference between "teach women not to use the courts to abuse men" and "change the law that's being abused".
/r/MensRights19/01/16 07:50 AM
2

Perhaps the reason there were more women in computer sciences back then was the skills they gained from using typewriters. Typing skills were one of the primary assets a woman could have before the sexual revolution. Edit: when seeking employment outside the home
/r/MensRights18/01/16 07:33 PM
2

This has been posted 3 times in the last three days. I appreciate the fact you wanted to share his message though. If you're looking for discussion I'd try searching for one of those threads.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:17 AM
3

You'd have to stop talking about women for a minute and we all know that's never going to happen.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 11:10 PM
2

If you had any evidence that we held these opinions you wouldn't have to use MS Paint to make up insane shit like this.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 11:06 PM
1

I hope he stays far away from the whole SJW stuff though. It's nice having the option for normal old outragey stuff.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 06:20 PM
1

9 days I believe!
/r/MensRights14/01/16 06:19 PM
1

FreedomOfTweets is another that didn't auto complete for me.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:10 PM
3

Oh man GradeAUnderA is one of my new favourites on the YouTubes
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:09 PM
1

Yeah I was just thinking about how that wasn't a completely accurate statement. I don't think you're wrong, or that I'm completely right. And honestly testing everyone makes the most sense anyways.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:08 PM
1

Yah maybe in a perfect world where a man gets tested before he sleeps with a bunch of people while carrying an STI. You seem way to optimistic about your chances of catching it before he spreads it. Testing is meant as a cure, not a preventative measure. That's what's condoms are for.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 04:30 PM
1

100% of people aren't going to be tested. If 2 out of 10 men are sleeping with 10 of the 10 women, you have better odds of actually finding the infected people if you test women. Plus 5 women are more likely to find the partner they've contracted it from or given it to then relying on the one man to tell 5 women.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 02:17 PM
1

Your example paints a pretty good picture of why it makes more sense to test women.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:56 AM
2

Perhaps he still has partial custody and doesn't want the new husband legally adopting his child?
/r/MensRights12/01/16 11:40 PM
10

You'll notice something about this video. He doesn't name his abuser. Sure we all know who it is, but it's also clear his intention is not to seek retribution. You don't need evidence to say domestic violence isn't a gendered issue, and if you do, there is plenty to back up that claim.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 03:53 PM
0

My religion dictates that all other religions are wrong and shouldn't exist. It teaches a prejudice against the act of being faithful. As a follower of this religion, I expect the same respect you would give any one else. So if believing in Islam is okay, then believing in my religion that preaches prejudice to Islam is okay, and it's wrong to judge me. Therefore prejudice towards religion cannot be inherently wrong or immoral, as it is in fact what most religious doctrines teach.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 08:25 PM
1

I don't think prejudice against groups is inherently immoral. It's how you act on those prejudices that really matters. I don't think you and I have the same definition of prejudice then. Prejudice, as I see it, is basically an irrational thought process, often driven by fear or disgust, which corrupts a person's ability to perceive certain other people accurately (i.e. without bias). Your definition of prejudice is kind of, well, prejudiced. By definition, prejudice is wrong, both literally and…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 07:29 PM
1

Am I terrible for believing we have no business being there and we should let them kill each other unabated?
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:35 AM
1

Matthew Santoro is associated with CDS so it makes sense.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:36 AM
2

I don't think prejudice against groups is inherently immoral. It's how you act on those prejudices that really matters. My biggest issue is the silencing of public criticism because it makes Muslims feel bad. I'll admit I'm coming at this from an anti-religious perspective. I won't deny that racism against middle easterns because of Islam is an issue.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:29 AM
2

Maybe Matthew removed the video from his channel for fishy reasons, I do not know. But he has every right under YouTube's policy to have this copy removed as well. Edit: most likely its because his girlfriend is/was also famous and this could be seen as libellous, but I have not seen the video.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:52 AM
14

Video is down due to copyright claim?
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:44 AM
1

Am I becoming more right wing or is the right meeting me in the middle? I still feel the same but find myself agreeing with more "Conservatives" these days.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:35 AM
1

Well that does seem to be exactly what's going on.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:34 AM
1

What do you mean by "appeasement"? I remember learning in school that government officials had met with Hitler and seemed enamored by him. Is that an example?
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:32 AM
3

Have you ever considered the rise in "islamophobia" since 9/11 is completely warranted? There are a lot of things people believe(d) that frighten the hell out of me. What makes Islam so sacred?
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:25 AM
1

Sounds like you need to keep a better eye on your stuff. That or put more effort into your trolling next time.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 07:27 PM
2

But God forbid we let some poor Muslims suffer.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 03:11 PM
1

Funny. All day on the radio I've been hearing about the right wing "rapeugees aren't welcome" protests and the "refugees are welcome" leftist counter-protests in Cologne.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:03 PM
1

January 13th. Title is misleading.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 09:14 PM
3

They'll probably just say male privilege trumps white privilege. That's when you respond with: "This is why people call white feminists racist. You pretend you're all woke and shit but you're still dreaming."
/r/MensRights08/01/16 08:41 PM
1

If you actually understood it, you wouldn't be saying asinine shit like this.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 08:09 PM
6

I recently saw an awesome rebuttal to the sexism/racism = power + privilege. Rape = power + privilege, therefore a black man cannot rape a white woman.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 07:28 PM
2

If you have to ask, the answer is no.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 07:25 PM
3

My grandmother is a lesbian housewife. When I started taking an interest in men's rights, I asked her what she knew of Feminism. Despite the fact she can barely use Facebook, she painted an eerily uncanny picture of what they're all about.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 07:21 PM
1

Can you name 3 of the MRM's main issues? Can you name 3 MRAs?
/r/MensRights08/01/16 01:40 AM
2

Karen Straughn - Toxic Masculinity and Toxic Femininity
/r/MensRights08/01/16 01:30 AM
6

Your comment saved me some time.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 01:21 AM
4

A passive aggressive way of being offended over innocuous things.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 11:05 PM
2

A wise person once told me: "If everywhere you go, and everything you do, you run into the same problem, that problem is you."
/r/MensRights05/01/16 11:01 PM
1

Seconded
/r/MensRights05/01/16 10:57 PM
3

Those with depression are less likely to work long hours/overtime or ask for raises.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 07:58 PM
8

That's brilliant.
/r/MensRights02/01/16 08:26 PM
3

You can block people that have PM'd you.
/r/MensRights02/01/16 08:23 PM
1

I'd suggest you check out Theryn Meyer.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 10:04 PM
1

No problem. How much do you know about men's issues? Can you name some familiar MRAs?
/r/MensRights01/01/16 09:31 PM
2

How can you pass as a man, and have issues as a trans-person? Obviously besides getting shit on when you tell people that is.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:50 PM
1

Do you understand how that furthers my point?
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:38 PM
1

See I feel that it's an easy mistake for trans men to make that they're being shit on for being trans. I don't think enough of them understand fully what being a man in the world is actually like. It takes us years and years of "training" to be able to handle the sexual, verbal, and physical abuse that most of us bear silently. I don't doubt for a second that it's overwhelming and technically it does happen because of the transition. Not to say there aren't unique issues specific to LGBT, I don'…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:29 PM
2

Honest question. Why should MRAs talk about GBT issues?
/r/MensRights01/01/16 10:05 AM
1

I believe I may have missed it. Try making it again. Reread the comment I was replying to in the first place. I'm not saying we should prosecute anyone. No, I can't name the police officers, though that shouldn't be too difficult to find out. As far as I am aware, this falls under the freedom of information act. And neither can I. Because we're not talking about prosecuting anyone. The victim is fucking DEAD. The victim of what? His own suicide, or the as of yet unproven police brutality? THAT i…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 04:40 AM
1

Yes we do. We need evidence of police misconduct. No we don't. I think you missed my point here. 'Innocent until proven guilty' is a principle that applies to police officers, too. It certainly does. Now can you name me one of these police officers we are presuming to be guilty? Look, I'm not saying either way here, okay? I'm saying we don't know enough to make even an educated guess as to what happened. Could have been police brutality. Could also have been a drug-fueled psychotic episode. Coul…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 02:57 AM
1

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 10:10 PM
2

What evidence are we going to get? There isn't an individual to condemn here and there never will be. We don't need evidence of anything to hold the police accountable for how they treat suspects/citizens. The evidence we do have (distraught man becoming dead man) is enough to warrant some pressure on the police. What incentives do they have to provide evidence of foul play? Who watches the fucking watchmen if we have to wait for them to prove themselves corrupt?
/r/MensRights31/12/15 09:13 PM
3

I think you're missing a very important fact that separates this from a possible false rape accusation. A man is dead. A man that threatened to kill himself, gave his reasons, and appears to have followed through. You're not being objective. You're victim blaming. You are saying his response to being mistreated is why he was mistreated. As if he's supposed to be the bigger man when dealing with government officials who are charged to protect and serve the public. No one will argue that he could …
/r/MensRights31/12/15 07:47 PM
1

What point are you even trying to make? Seriously?
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:16 PM
2

You're telling me Bradley Cooper, Amy Poehler, Paul Rudd, Elizabeth Banks, Michael Ian Black, Christopher Meloni and Janeane Garofalo were 15-16 in 2001? Cause they're all in their 40's now.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 09:51 AM
2

It's a nod to the movie, which almost all of the cast was in. The film is notorious for the actors looking too old for the parts they were playing. That being said, it still creeped me out.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 01:35 AM
1

There is no way in hell I could ever marry a women who would work while I sat at home for almost 8 years. Then why'd you let her do it for 8 years?
/r/MensRights30/12/15 04:35 AM
3

They'll join us when they're ready.
/r/MensRights29/12/15 06:00 AM
1

Was that you he was arguing with?
/r/MensRights29/12/15 12:52 AM
1

Propaganda.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 10:47 PM
1

seems pretty black and white to me At least you're honest about your bias.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 07:47 PM
1

Still not seeing it. They brought up people being fired for sexual harassment, so I don't see how you can assert that they think sexual harassment is just a part of capitalism. I'm curious though, do you think "Donglegate" had a fair outcome?
/r/MensRights28/12/15 07:30 PM
1

I don't see where they said sexual harassment is fine because capitalism. The closest I saw was them disagreeing with the fact women are systematically discriminated against in the workplace.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 07:16 PM
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I would have just said something like: "You should see what I'm teaching her ;)"
/r/MensRights28/12/15 07:09 PM
2

Wow. I expected so much worse going in there.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 09:46 AM
1

Thanks for the detailed explanation!
/r/MensRights28/12/15 06:45 AM
2

Wait. You have 50% joint custody and have to pay child support? Edit: I guess the 10% physical custody is what matters.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 05:26 AM
1

Do you ever discuss men's issues with people in real life? People you at least somewhat respect?
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:28 AM
3

Oh god, please stop. You're going to do nothing but strengthen their resolve and push them further into the clutches of their hugbox.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:16 AM
1

I pretty much just said the same thing, in less words. Loved your little jab at the end.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:12 AM
7

Employers cannot hire those who do not apply. Loosely speaking, its a zero sum game. Every woman who takes gender studies is one less woman in STEM fields.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:11 AM
2

I saw BasedNan in the thumbnail and was going to say this exact same thing.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 11:49 PM
1

If it's on this sub, surely you could link to this egregious statement, no?
/r/MensRights27/12/15 10:16 PM
1

Did this take place on /r/MensRights? Were they a self-identified MRA or did you decide that for them?
/r/MensRights27/12/15 10:13 PM
7

Wow. Judging from some of the replies, rape is apparently an effective means of finding a relationship. No wonder I'm still single!
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:30 PM
1

So Feminism is against mens rights? 2-1=1
/r/MensRights27/12/15 08:17 PM
1

I just watched this video and was checking to see if anyone had posted it. This gives me hope for the next generation.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 01:33 AM
2

Warren Farrell served on the board of directors for the National Organization for Women (NOW) three times!
/r/MensRights27/12/15 12:23 AM
3

Ask her how much affirmative action it will take before she realizes women just aren't interested in being the women feminists want them to be. Seriously, they're already doing better in schools and young women without children are earning more than their male counterparts.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 06:44 PM
1

One upvote for the Red Menace.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 03:35 AM
2

I'm curious, ELI5 Capitalism.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 01:40 AM
3

If I had to define capitalism in as few words as possible, that would pretty much be my definition.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 11:44 PM
6

I love how quickly the strawman argument turns into the no true scotsman fallacy.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 08:16 PM
7

Well someone who is a Marxist probably has a better understanding of how capitalism works than the average person.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 08:14 PM
1

Did you get that microapology line from a video? I heard it once and forget where now.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 03:05 AM
1

I can understand where you are coming from. However it's not about stopping individuals from sharing their opinions (ideally). Rallying a bunch of people who share your dissenting opinion to bombard a thread is entirely different. You say not allowing it is meant to stifle dissenting opinions, but I feel it can equally be used to do the silencing.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 10:02 PM
6

I don't think the sex offenders registry is fair in its current form and quite frankly I'm leery of any such lists existing in the first place. Exit: publically, the courts can and should keep records.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 09:16 PM
3

We don't link to that sub here. You'd have to ask a /r/MensRights mod why though. My guess is to avoid being blamed for brigading.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 09:13 PM
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My alt was a mod there at one point in time. You're not far off with your assessment. There is no room for dissent of Feminist theory. Anti-feminists are welcome to participate as long as they don't espouse their beliefs, no matter how much evidence you have to back them up. And don't mention paternal surrender, the head mod is quite touchy on the subject.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 08:13 PM
1

I believe it should be on your record and not public knowledge. I'm against the sex offenders registry in its current form as well though. I believe it should at least be at the discretion of a medical professional and not a judge.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 08:09 PM
2

The governments who use lists to keep their people in fear don't exactly have the best track records mate.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 06:33 PM
6

What does gender have to do with being fair and balanced? Are you really insinuating the diversity quota rhetoric? If anything putting more men on the jury would increase her chances of getting away with it. Men love women. Women don't.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 06:10 PM
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To play devil's advocate for a second: If there were such a list, those women would be prime targets for real violence since there's an increase in plausible deniability.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 05:41 PM
1

I filled out the survey and I was surprised at how objective it seemed. It actually had room for dissenting opinions.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 04:14 AM
2

Gloria "the cryptkeeper" Steinem
/r/MensRights22/12/15 09:15 PM
1

First off, I hate the term "fair wages". No, no, just no. Stop, there is no "fair" wage except the one where the person works of their own free will. You want to talk about hypocritical? Apparently not tipping a server is "incredibly cruel", yet they are working of their own free will for that wage they are earning.
/r/MensRights20/12/15 11:49 PM
1

It's punishing servers because you're saying "I'm not going to make you work but not pay you for it because I don't like this system." I'm not the one making them do a fucking thing, and since I'm not legally obligated to pay these people, why should I? Boo fucking hoo. You sitting in that seat at that restaurant and taking that server's time then refusing to pay them for it is incredibly cruel. If it's incredibly cruel why is it even an option? You know how the system works, you should fucking …
/r/MensRights20/12/15 11:23 PM
1

First off, I hate the term "fair wages". No, no, just no. Stop, there is no "fair" wage except the one where the person works of their own free will. "Fair wage" meaning the minimum wage any other industry receives. Second, while they're "supposed to", many don't. Often because it's hard to tell if a server is telling the truth when they say their tips aren't meeting minimum wage. Anyway, why the fuck are we supposed to punish servers for the system? Honestly, that's just stupidity. You know wha…
/r/MensRights20/12/15 08:12 PM
2

2) That fucking sketch is meant to mean "Hey, you should tip for now but we should totally move toward a system where we don't have to tip!" It's in no way a justification for you not to tip a server who makes $2.13 an hour, most of which will be taken from "expected taxes on tips". I don't know about the US but in Canada if a server doesn't make enough in tips to meet the standard minimum wage for the hours they've worked, then the business is responsible for making up the difference. Therefore…
/r/MensRights20/12/15 01:16 PM
0

I had just woken up and felt exactly how you must have so I copied your post. I'm really just giving you a hard time anyways, I wouldn't seriously advocate for classifying Feminism as a hate group.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 01:09 PM
0

Sorry maybe Im slow this early in my day but not seeing how your comments makes sense.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 10:36 AM
6

Here's my problem. The same respect you want me to give your opinion is the same I must give theirs. Your premise demands it.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 09:47 PM
1

"Showing hostility towards gender identity" would fit this definition of hate group. "Toxic Masculinity" is literally being hostile to certain aspects of men.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:04 PM
1

Hostility towards gender identity sounds a lot like toxic masculinity to me.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:59 PM
1

You're not trying to understand anything. You have made your agenda abundantly clear.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 08:16 AM
1

I have reported this just in case.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:53 AM
1

I don't doubt that what you have described is a possibility. However, even if you're correct, I don't think it's safe to say its the sole cause or even a primary one.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:51 AM
1

Why can't it be both?
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:49 AM
1

This was from December 5th. There's a live stream of the two talking about it.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:33 AM
2

Take your understanding of the concept of hermaphrodites, call it dysphoria, and you've pretty much got it.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:25 AM
0

How is this hard to see? Female brain, male body. Or even Female front left lobe. This logically makes sense to you when it comes to attraction but you can't take the leap in regards to gender?
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:46 AM
2

How does your scenario play out if it's a 150 lb male who can't lift him?
/r/MensRights17/12/15 09:15 PM
11

As a Canadian, I'm going to wait and see how the Gregory Alan Elliot case pans out before embracing that third bit.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 08:21 PM
11

Talk about it with people in real life. Ask them their opinion on the issues you identify with. You might be one person but many people know you. If we all did that then eventually everyone would know a MRA. It's exactly how any civil rights movement succeeds. I'm sure others can offer other ways to help but I feel this is the easiest and most important thing any of us can do.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:56 AM
1

If it was performed by a licensed medical practitioner who has botched the surgery, that's negligence. I find this irrelevant. I'm not looking for retribution. Furthermore, you weren't consenting, so you have every right to be angry. I'd just like to note that I appreciate you saying that. This is a touchy subject and the internet is combative enough as it is. That doesn't disprove my argument that circumcision can sometimes be warranted, and can be necessary. This is a mistake many people make …
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:23 AM
1

I like to think of it like water. You can say it's either hot or its cold and technically you'd be right; just look at practically every sink ever made as an example. The problem with that is it doesn't accurately describe the difference between warm and boiling or cool and freezing.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:01 AM
2

Regardless, being circumcised is not a big deal, unless you make it a big deal. What about in my case where the doctor took off a little too much? What about the half inch scar running down my glans? Seriously who are you to tell me that what has been done to my body against my will isn't a big deal? Don't label us as mutilated, and treat us as a pity case. I'm very happy with my penis, and wouldn't change a thing. There are two issues here: 1) You don't know the definition of mutilation. (to in…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 11:31 PM
1

I was referring to safe spaces on college campuses, which is definitely a cultural resource/habitable earth. I will admit it was a bit of a stretch but the idea that they should have public areas that are "safe" would fall under protecting the commons in my opinion. The term "commons" in universities has the same root as it does in politics, being 'common land'.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 09:11 PM
2

I'd like to point out that a lot of people in Canada get circumcised without it being for religious reasons. A lot of athiests say "God bless you" when someone sneezes, that doesn't mean the phrase isn't rooted in religion. It seems like people in these threads always blame the religious aspect but there are other reasons for circumcision. The biggest opponents we have in getting infant circumcision banned are the religious freedom fighters. The questionable medical benefits are merely used to j…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 08:03 PM
3

Think about it like sex dude. If you have sex with someone and like it, that's fine. When they then have sex with me against my will, its still rape. It's the same reason why vaginal rejuvenation isn't called FGM but female circumcision is.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 03:33 PM
4

Aggravated assault here in Canada, when its done to a girl.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 03:28 PM
0

Then it is against the law to do to anyone under the age of 18. At least in Canada. Yet circumcision is not.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 07:17 AM
1

But they were both probably right wing.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 06:21 AM
0

How can you say we bring up valid faults in society and not make the logical leap as to why someone would post this? Ask yourself for a second why this is a joke.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 06:08 AM
2

Downvotes don't matter, but upvotes do? Interesting.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 06:06 AM
4

I know this will probably get me downvoted into oblivion, but so fucking what? Hi. This has nothing to do with rights. How about the right to freedom from harm? I mean, that's the joke isn't it? The fact that the so called 'MRM' spends more time whining about societal double standards than it does dealing with rights issues is the reason most people think it's a joke. This says a lot about what bubble you have came from. Sorry but I'm tired of seeing memes like this getting hundreds of upvotes w…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:59 AM
3

Please don't call dogmatic would-be totalitarians liberal or left wing. Concepts like enlightenment values ("being woke"/critical race theory), class struggle (oppressed minorities), and protecting the commons (safe spaces) have nothing to do with clowns promoting prejudice and hatred. Nothing at all? Edit: I'll agree with them not being liberals. But they were definitely born of the left.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:32 AM
1

When it's cosmetic, and on a baby, it is.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:00 AM
0

The College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia Professional Standards and Guidelines Female genital mutilation is against the law in Canada. The Criminal Code categorizes female genital mutilation as aggravated assault, except in situations exempted under section 268(3): Aggravated Assault 268. (1) Every one commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. Punishment (2) Every one who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an i…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 04:51 AM
2

#NotAllWomen
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:14 PM
3

"One of the most powerful men in media" 50 women. "Little to gain." Nothing to lose. You know what I find harder to believe than 50 women lying? 50 women waiting decades to say anything about being raped. 50 fucking women and not one of them spoke up sooner? Edit: And how many rape victims have you seen gather together for a photo shoot?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 05:07 PM
1

I mean, call her a fatty all you want, she deserves any and all vitriol she receives lol.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 04:32 PM
6

Come on. Valenti is a LOT of things but fat is not one of them.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 03:34 PM
1

After seeing his SJW side come out, I've become convinced he's a socialist propagandist. I mean, there's no way that dude is ignorant enough to just blindly buy into Feminist "facts". The reason he toes the line is because it fits his agenda, and I don't think "Feminism" is his agenda, but socialism.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 03:24 PM
3

I kind of figured he was on the SJW side anyways. It's not something I'll completely write someone off for. Pretty sure the guy is just a socialist propagandist. Edit: I don't say that as if its inherently a bad thing.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 03:21 PM
0

So why wouldn't the law be equal? I mean I can't perform labioplasty on my newborn daughter now can I?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 03:17 PM
1

If there's convincing evidence why hasn't he been charged?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:32 AM
1

What are the names of them?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:26 AM
1

Have you ever seen what a botched circumcision looks like?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 07:42 AM
3

Go back and watch it again, keeping in mind his position. When I watched that debate I knew he was pro circumcision and when the topic came up I cringed equally as hard as Milo did. You could tell he didn't want to weaken his pro-male position by sharing his personal views. One of the few times I've seen Milo bite his tongue.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 07:41 AM
3

I went on a bit of a spree on YouTube. Guess I should give the show a chance. However, in the "why you should share your salary" episode he uses the wage gap unironically.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 07:24 AM
1

That's a heck of a read. Definitely gave off RedPill vibes, not to impart judgment one way or the other. It's a little too wordy for what amounts to conjecture but there is a lot of good information as well.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 08:05 AM
1

Stefonknee Wolsch Edit: On second thought I am not sure if little girls count.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 07:45 AM
1

What do you think about Sublime with Rome?
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:57 PM
1

I saw RBF last summer they're sick. I'm more into third wave and reggae/dub but appreciate all forms really. I'd say it was the Mad Caddies or Catch 22/Streetlight Manifesto that really got me hooked.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:53 PM
1

Completely unrelated but... Who's your favourite ska band?
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:41 PM
5

"It's always been an issue, but the Internet is making women feel like they can express their opinion," Stoel said. "We have a huge community of feminists who will share it and give it validation. What we're doing isn't wrong, it's society that is wrong." This is the most accurate description of what Feminism is these days.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 02:35 PM
1

To be honest, it was pretty much Futrelle just shitting on a MGTOW. Literally cherry picked one dudes shitty rant and wrote an article about it. Which, if you were familiar with his usual works, you'd be as surprised by him making the distinction as I was.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 05:02 AM
1

If you don't like an article please consider using archive.is. https://archive.is/4N5Jx I have provided one because I cannot stand the idea of giving that thing ad revenue/clicks.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 04:49 AM
1

In a sense, yes that is what I was saying. I think they'd rather live in the world where they feel guilty for being powerful than in reality where they are powerless and their existence is meaningless. (Edit: I've been all the way down the rabbit hole)
/r/MensRights11/12/15 04:41 AM
1

Do you understand Male Feminists a little more now?
/r/MensRights11/12/15 04:04 AM
1

Upvoted because this comment having a negative score bothered me, even if I enjoy the irony.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 04:00 AM
6

So using her logic: Men are privileged because they aren't being constantly harassed/raped by women. That's a privilege. In order for there to be equality, more men need to be harassed/raped cuz balance.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 03:17 AM
2

The only men who should feel empowered by the MRM are the ones we're trying to help.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 01:04 AM
1

My comment was on the facetious side for sure. I've actually got quite a bit of respect for cheerleaders (even the male ones). I'm surprised that it isn't part of the NCAA but you've done a good job explaining why. Thanks for the info, its the second thing I've learned today! (Gloria Steinem is Christian Bale's step mom being the other)
/r/MensRights10/12/15 12:54 AM
1

I wonder how this is a violation of fair use. I mean what's the difference between using archive when critiquing an article and commenting on someone else's video on your own YouTube channel?
/r/MensRights08/12/15 07:32 PM
11

“My 9-year-old doesn’t even know what sexual harassment means,” she said. I'm sure they'll be teaching them soon enough.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 08:27 PM
1

http://www.mintpressnews.com/white-americans-are-the-biggest-terror-threat-in-the-united-states/211608/ Admittedly I haven't read the whole thing yet, closest I've found so far though.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 08:18 PM
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I respect the fact that you were willing to admit you took it out of context. My issue was with you no-platforming him in the first place. The fact that you took him out of context is just one example of why that's a shitty thing to do. I really wanted to point out the hypocrisy of you being the one doing it. All things considered, I'm quite calm. This is just my way of addressing the contention I had with you instead of writing you off.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 08:10 PM
1

Of all the stupid shit I've seen you say, this has to be the most offensive. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt until now. You say some pretty disagreeable/despicable things about women in this sub and I've actually defended your right to do so. If you want to live in a world where we "stop listening" because someone said something we don't like, then good fucking luck bud. You'll be the last person anyone listens to.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 07:40 PM
4

#NotJustWomen
/r/MensRights07/12/15 04:51 AM
6

She doxxed Mike Cernovich.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 01:03 AM
2

This has been reposted constantly but you're not wrong.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 09:14 PM
9

I'm going to save this comment for proof the next time someone calls you a misogynist. You're clearly a misanthropist! :)
/r/MensRights01/12/15 06:10 PM
1

Wow. I've been here awhile and I've never seen it put like that. Kudos on the insight!
/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:13 PM
2

A micro-aggression is a passive aggressive way of taking something someone says/does and putting it through their passive aggressive translator. You don't have to be passive aggressive, they do that for you. That's really all it is, and they're not even shy about it. It doesn't matter what your intent was and they'll tell you so.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 10:29 PM
5

I've even hear him allude to being molested as a choir boy. Although take that with a grain of salt because he's a huge troll. Except when he said it you could see he was uncomfortable talking about it.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 09:51 PM
2

Well its not like this happened today. I'd imagine the climate in family courts was quite different in the 80's/90's.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 09:19 PM
6

As a musician, her arrogance is upsetting. She seems to think that everyone else's advice or opinion is some kind of personal attack. It's not, they're just giving you advice. Even if it's bad advice, they're still not attacking your womanhood. It's because the only language they speak is passive aggression.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 09:13 PM
13

It's his religious right shining through.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 09:02 PM
7

It's sad you're going to get downvoted for this because its exactly what Milo would say.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 09:00 PM
4

Milo is a Christian. If that helps this make more sense to you. Although I admit how/why he's a Christian is infinitely more confusing.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 08:58 PM
5

Misogyny is a social construct.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 08:56 PM
2

It was an awkward afternoon, and after you metaphorically castrate a guy, you very quickly loose any desire from them. Once I saw he was on the verge of tears, I knew I had gone far enough. Hopefully he learnt his lesson, and will never in the future assume that men know more than women in any task. Ever. Again. The guy offered to help her complete a task. She was the one who assumed that he knew more than her. What does she think he is going to take away from this experience? This girl literall…
/r/MensRights29/11/15 02:21 AM
5

Do you believe Feminist theory that trans-women's issues are due to misogyny? Because to me, it seems like society is hung up on them as being "men in dresses". It's male disposability that says you cannot rape a man, and since that is all they see, their actions are easier to justify to themselves. Honestly, I feel that trans-women are at the most risk due to society's indifference towards men than anyone.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 01:07 AM
1

The higher the pedestal, the higher the fall. It's literally why "Patriarchy" is better for men and worse at the same time.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 12:29 AM
2

Not to mention that black women are almost worshipped in their culture.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 09:34 PM
3

Then I'm on their side. Sorry.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 08:18 AM
3

Do you know what black people who don't support the movement get called?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 08:14 AM
3

I got it from the blacklivesmatter.com about page. Is that a good place to understand more about the movement?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 08:06 AM
1

I know he accused you of being too wordy but this seems like a drastic change.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 07:53 AM
4

It goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black, keeping straight cis Black men in the front of the movement while our sisters, queer and trans and disabled folk take up roles in the background or not at all. What does this mean?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 07:52 AM
1

To be honest, I never heard of these people before, nor do I know their work, I could recognize some of it, perhaps. Are there any notable MRAs whose work you are familiar with? Or Feminists for that matter?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 07:38 AM
2

Thanks. That's a solid description of my personal stance as well. I'm glad there are more articulate people who feel the same way.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 11:19 PM
4

Https://np.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3uewu4/cmvantifeminism_is_not_misogyny_and_it_is/cxex4oc
/r/MensRights27/11/15 09:34 PM
1

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE
/r/MensRights27/11/15 06:15 PM
1

I enjoyed this. Thanks.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 06:03 PM
2

Jerry Seinfeld
/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:37 AM
2

This seems more like a rant than a bit at least.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:20 AM
2

Remember George Carlin is from a different time.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:15 AM
2

I cannot be the only person who isn't comfortable with the idea of posting a picture of their face here. Too many SJW's that get off on ruining people's lives for my liking. Honestly not a terrible idea if the world wasn't filled with CryBullies.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 11:30 PM
2

I like your style. But that's just my opinion.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:48 PM
1

Did you really think this through?
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:45 PM
4

And they say women aren't funny....
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:15 PM
1

Childlike behavior like name calling? Why is everything you say hypocritical?
/r/MensRights26/11/15 08:51 PM
1

Are you going to take away my membership card oh fearless leader?
/r/MensRights26/11/15 07:15 PM
1

Please explain how men are 9 times more likely to kill themselves and make up %90+ of workplace injury/death and yet we call women oppressed. Seriously. Name one issue that exists for women today that comes close.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 04:54 PM
0

Yeah I've never heard anyone say they were getting this game because they think its going to be good.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 04:20 PM
7

Now we wait for the articles and change.org petition rallying to have this program cancelled. Seriously though, this is awesome.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 03:35 PM
1

You lost this one bro! You lost this one bro! You lost this one bro!
/r/MensRights26/11/15 03:25 PM
3

Wouldn't that be the best troll ever?
/r/MensRights26/11/15 03:13 PM
2

You know. I actually think you're on to something. In my experience women love it when you tell them what you are going to do to them. This might actually be the solution to the consent issue, at least for sex positive people.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 02:14 AM
4

That's a tough one. It's hard enough to get people to care about refugees. And (as we all know) even harder for them to care about men.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 02:10 AM
2

It seriously seems like you're implying that a transperson who identifies as a man, is somehow not a man. You realize men's issues affect minorities equal or more right? One of our biggest issues is the male suicide rate. Which happens to be an issue they've identified in their own community. Discrimination in sentencing affects minorities more than the average white person. I could continue if you'd like. If you had spent your time here in good faith you'd be aware of the issues. If you weren't…
/r/MensRights26/11/15 02:05 AM
1

Name 3 prominent MRA's.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 01:54 AM
2

I mean it's funny but I don't think it really belongs here.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 01:48 AM
1

Cannot believe I'm linking Buzzfeed right now
/r/MensRights26/11/15 01:23 AM
6

It's the foundation of most social justice beliefs. Seriously this is all I hear: "We care about (interest group)." "We are acting in their interest." "You are (non-interest group)." "You must care about being (non-interest group). I mean. It's totally logical right? I am in no way projecting my values onto you or anything." "Therefore it is also logical to conclude that you are acting in (non-interest group)'s favour." Every. Fucking. Time. With these people. It's 2015!
/r/MensRights26/11/15 01:04 AM
6

Perhaps this type of behavior has been around since the dawn of mankind and is actually the true original sin? Edit: Wow. That just blew my mind. The very first parable in the Bible is telling you to be skeptical of doing something because someone told you to. So essentially the first thing its is trying to teach you is to think critically. How fucking ironic.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:43 AM
2

I feel like the OP could have given his conclusion a touch more nuance. Though I admire their conciseness, posting this in /r/MensRights kind of alludes to it being seen as a problem.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:41 AM
2

Naw dude, that's actually how it is set up. You had me thinking I had read it wrong. Edit: OP created a red herring at the end there.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:33 AM
1

Wow. I don't know whether to laugh or feel bad. Who am I kidding? I'm laughing twice as hard.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:31 AM
1

You keep living in fear there bud. I don't like any of the shit this guy says but I certainly admire him more than I do you. If what you are saying is valid then it would already be happening. This guy says the same kind of shit on almost every single post that is submitted here. Guess what? Hasn't affected us one bit. You know why? Because the lies they make up are much worse than anything he says. If this is the best example of misogyny they can come up with then he's doing us a fucking servic…
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:26 AM
1

You're making a false assumption. Because the school is paying for men to have a football team, the school justifies having a soccer team for the women. It's saying that if men want a soccer team they'd have to give up funding from a different program. This is what equality looks like. Edit: this is like your friend saying that, if your friend is paying for your order.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:16 AM
1

Unfortunately there are men involved in competitive cheerleading.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:12 AM
2

Parity in the schools allocation of resources to school-run sports programs? Edit: my bad. I misread this. I initially thought it said that men couldn't have a men's soccer team because they have football. Football can't exist because it doesn't for women? That is nonsense. My previous understanding would be a better solution. Edit2: upon further reflection I didn't misread anything.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:04 AM
3

Hint: that means they are also more likely to use a weapon.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:02 AM
2

I DON'T think men's rights will succeed. That was the point I stopped taking them seriously.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:57 PM
3

That we aren't interested in gender equality? That's the hill you want to die on?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:55 PM
2

same amount of school-run sports programs. Until someone points out women having more of these available to them, please explain to me how this is a problem. This is what gender equality done right looks like. The whole "boys can't have soccer because girls don't have football" is a red herring.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:55 PM
1

Traditional or conservatives are feminist? That's not an assertion I'd make. How you extrapolated that is beyond me. Strange that every single person who speaks against feminism is traditional and/or conservative. Nope. Holding the opinion that society doesn't give a shit about men and advocating for their better treatment is progressive. Trying to silence their movement is traditional/conservative. You are making the same false accusation that MRA's seek to maintain the status quo. All this tel…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:37 PM
2

You choose to pander to people who don't hold themselves to the same rules they expect others to follow. Check. I'll continue to not care what they think. You keep on believing that there is a point in appeasing the intellectually dishonest.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:28 PM
1

Yes, I Godwinned myself, intentionally. Twas a joke because the comparison between "blame the women" and "blame the Jews" was so excruciatingly easy. Doesn't matter who invokes Godwin's Law, the debate is supposed to end all the same. Sure you could argue that it means he won but that would also assume I cared.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:25 PM
4

Well no but since women are on average worse drivers than men maybe they should be forced to go to driving school. Edit: and for that matter lets teach women not to kill babies ;)
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:18 PM
7

We must teach boys not to hit girls. Are we telling these girls not to hit boys? If not then its a tacit endorsement. Girl hits boy. Girl antagonizes boy "nah nah you can't hit me". Boy hits girl. Girl complains to teacher. School has assembly telling boys not to hit girls. Behavior reinforced.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:17 PM
10

Just because you don't take it seriously when a woman hits you doesn't mean the rest of us have to think so little of them.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:13 PM
14

Statisically? Let's see them! Last I saw %70 of non-reciprocal DV was committed by women towards men...
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:11 PM
7

Rules against gender segregation. Things like the Girl Scouts/Boy Scouts (which are specifically exempted).
/r/MensRights25/11/15 11:01 PM
69

Wow. I've never considered how well the laws of robotics apply to gynocentrism before.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:59 PM
1

I've had more meaningful conversations with SmartBot back on the days of MSN than I have with some women.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:55 PM
2

What does it say when you have to tell boys not to hit girls but don't take the same steps to tell girls not to hit boys. You're creating a double standard. You want an effective way to reduce the violence of boys towards girls? Tell girls that they shouldn't hit boys because they'll fucking hit them back. No matter how much you hammer it into a boys head that it's wrong to hit women, when they are abused enough they will defend themselves.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:53 PM
-1

Lmao just like abstinence pledges and reparative therapy for homosexuals.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:48 PM
1

It's funny because here in Canada its written in the labour laws that: If an employer doesn't reprimand a repeated behavior then it is tantamount to endorsing it.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:46 PM
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It's about creating a problem and offering the solution. Same as the "diversity" epidemic. You aren't diverse enough. You should hire my consulting firm to help you figure out how to fix this problem I am accusing you of. Snakeoil sales tactics 101.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:39 PM
13

You don't know how to respond because its a Kafka trap.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:36 PM
2

I'm not going to live in fear of offending people whose only interest in the MRM is to tone police us. You're free to try but I'm going to call you out on it every time. You have a problem with his position refute it. Don't condemn him for holding it. THAT is how free speech works. Any less and you are stooping to their level.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:51 PM
2

Then we agree. It's this very reason I am defending him. If his position is disagreeable it benefits us all to see it disputed.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:46 PM
1

Definitely agree. There is nothing "progressive" about it anymore. It's about conserving and growing rights for women.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:21 PM
1

"Scare away any newcomer" is the same defence SJW's use to censor video games they had no intention of playing. It's a false threat. If they can't handle him saying the shit he does then they should be doubly disappointed with the blatant misandry our opposition is lauded for.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:17 PM
2

That is entirely my point. What's the difference between GoHoMo saying some unsavoury things and being called a misogynist and WF having his talks protested because he's a rape apologist misogynist scum?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:15 PM
1

And if anyone took you seriously then you'd be correct.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:13 PM
1

Oh I acknowledge those people exist. You need to understand we will get nowhere catering to them. You might as well go to /r/Feminism if you feel that way.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:12 PM
2

Have you heard of Warren Farrell, rape apologist/misogynist extraordinaire?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:09 PM
2

I was mostly kidding, hence the Godwin reference. But if you think men's rights is going to "succeed" by blaming half the population, then I fear I was closer to reality than I had considered.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:08 PM
9

That isn't a very strong argument for elective cosmetic surgery on babies incapable of consenting.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:06 PM
1

Calling an MRA an SJW in a debate about whether they are compatible. And you hope to prove your point how exactly?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:01 PM
-4

And you keep taking talking points from the likes of Hitler. Godwinned.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:50 PM
1

I love how you're using the same argument to say that Feminists can't be MRA's to prove that MGTOW/RedPill aren't that different. You're so fucking high on yourself dude that I don't think there's a point in continuing this conversation.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:49 PM
0

Advocating someone change their behavior because it could be used as "guilt by association" against the movement isn't implying that it's an acceptable standard to hold yourself to? Well fuck me then eh? Why'd you bring it up? I'll give you a hint. It doesn't matter what we say, they are going to paint us as misogynists. Policing the opinions of our members is not productive. You have a problem with what he's saying then debate him. Don't come in here and try to mother the fucking guy because th…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:47 PM
1

It's not the majority of men fighting for these things either. But its women's fault for caring more about it right?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:43 PM
1

Posts are routinely deleted by the mods here with the suggestion that they should take it to "men's rants." That would be my suggestion for GoHo, whose posts seem like a feminist caricature of an MRA. I spend almost as much time here as he does. If he was an issue I'm sure the mods would have dealt with it already. If a poster was constantly spamming "I hate niggers" or "I hate jews" 100 times a day he's simply derailing fruitful discussion and wasting everyone's time. If that was all he was doi…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:41 PM
1

'Going off' on an issue is not what SJWs primarily do. Usually, they tone police. However, its informative to know passion is now equated with 'sinking to their level'. Perhaps it's this passion that is blinding you that it looks exactly the same to a neutral party. MGTOW and RedPill are outside of the MRM by default. They are welcome to be a part of it the same as Feminists and anyone else who considers men's issues legitimate. You have your head up your ass here, mon frere. MGTOW is a descript…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:34 PM
3

No, he's definitely got a better understanding of free speech than you do. I disagree with almost everything he says but I would never advocate taking away his right to do so. You got a problem with what he says use your free speech to debate him.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:21 PM
2

Idiots who use guilt by association are the problem on both sides.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:18 PM
0

I disagree with %90 of what he says but you know what, he's not the problem. People like you are. Somehow you are capable of the cognitive dissonance it takes to argue that: It is wrong for him to generalize women based on his experiences with them. It's okay to generalize the MRM however, based on your experiences with him.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:08 PM
1

I'm sure that plays a part in it.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:52 PM
2

Most people are not on either side. Most people don't give two flying fucks about gender politics, doesn't matter what side you're on. You wanna blame women? I blame men. The "Patriarchy" that Feminists talk about, that is the statistical success/power that men hold, isn't a thing because men favor men. It's a thing because they will actively shit on men to achieve such things.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:49 PM
1

Actually yes, i am indeed saying a feminist/SJW cannot be a mens rights asvocate. Are you saying its possible to hold two completely opposing views at the same time? There are plenty of Feminists that share our view of men's issues. NAFALT and shit. If you're talking about radfems then yeah obviously I'll agree their views oppose ours. Also, there are plenty of MRA's that go all SJW about their issues. Look at any thread where someone says MGM isn't an issue and watch them go off. I consider mys…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:40 PM
12

I want you to look the parents of the baby that died from his botched circumcision and say it doesn't matter cuz women.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:29 PM
9

Getting stabbed and dying from bleeding out is worse than being shot and dying instantly. Guess that means we shouldn't care about murder if its with a gun.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:19 PM
1

Are you saying that a feminist/SJW cannot be a men's rights advocate? Or that anyone you disagree with isn't a real MRA? There are plenty of RedPillers and MGTOW here as well.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:04 PM
2

You know what I find unfortunate? How quickly we'll recite the same strawman shit about them as Feminists do about us. I don't agree with everything they say or their methods but they get just as much of a bad rap as we do. Who wins by parroting Feminists? We call RedPillers misogynists. They call us do-nothing crybabies. Feminists conflate us being the same and both. Do you really think it helps men to scapegoat each other for the women's approvals?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 03:56 PM
3

www.theredpillmovie.com
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:16 AM
1

The majority of men who randomly contact women online are like that. [citation needed] Sorry, a more accurate statement would be: The majority of men who contact these kinds of women probably are. I'm speaking anecdotally of course but its a recurring complaint. You did mention that you would avoid these people and I believe that is definitely a valid option. Suppose men in general do this. You're not protecting yourself from "creeps", you're ensuring that you only receive messages from guys you…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 04:31 AM
1

I agree with you mostly. However, I feel you're vastly underestimating the amount of "creepers" online. The majority of men aren't like that is a true statement. The majority of men who randomly contact women online are like that. So while I agree these are somewhat shitty things to say, I'm not about to take them personally either. Ultimately these are words and to argue that these words are "problematic" is no better than Feminist critique. I don't mean to imply that you're about to go after t…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 02:12 AM
2

What more are you hoping to hear? Your best bet is to say you've reflected on what could have caused this and you'll be more careful. Offer to apologize. Accept the fact that you still might get fired and don't make the same mistake at your next place of employment.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 09:15 PM
1

Do you want to get harangued even more than you already are?
/r/MensRights24/11/15 09:05 PM
1

As a fellow service industry vet your inappropriate comments make so much more sense now. Restaurants are one of the last bastions the PC police have yet to infiltrate. Take this as a lesson.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 09:03 PM
1

It's not always the case. I've filed complaints against people I work with. You have to document the instances and let HR handle it. If you start letting it affect your work because "they aren't doing anything" then you're going to have a problem. The truth is these kinds of things require a lot of written complaints before a company can take action. A lot of workers are afraid to be a rat but are perfectly fine complaining about the shitty employees behind their backs. I've only been at my curr…
/r/MensRights24/11/15 12:25 AM
1

You realize he can do both right? Lodge a formal complaint and seek new employment.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 12:12 AM
2

"I just don't understand why women say stuff like that." For the normal person, it isn't about being "funny". It's a coping mechanism for dealing with their being nervous. I know for me, when I have a stupid feeling/fear I can't shake, it helps to verbalize them out loud. I'm not saying that fearing men by default is any less than absurd but it is a product of society and not individual maliciousness. Basically, the punch line of the "joke" isn't that men are evil. It's their own personal insecu…
/r/MensRights23/11/15 09:53 PM
8

Best part about this? Open to ALL STUDENTS.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 09:37 PM
3

I'd say this is %99 accurate.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 09:32 PM
5

Covering your ass is exactly why I would have done the same. Plus, it's a good way to find out how the company will handle any further issues you might have in the future. I know if I was in HR, I'd take the concerns of new hires very seriously.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:48 AM
-4

I dindu nuffin!
/r/MensRights22/11/15 10:34 PM
-2

We're totally being victimized!!!
/r/MensRights22/11/15 10:28 PM
1

Oh man the fire alarm went off at work today. I work in a retirement home where 95% of the staff is women. Can you imagine how that went?
/r/MensRights22/11/15 10:15 PM
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LOL
/r/MensRights22/11/15 10:11 PM
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If you're worried about such things happening then you're probably not as innocent as you let on. It's not Feminism's fault you aren't comfortable around women, it's your internalized misogyny showing. /sorry :P
/r/MensRights22/11/15 09:32 PM
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"What is your solution?" Maybe I'd work on hardening my delicate sensibilities. Respect that the freedoms protecting your right to dress like a slut are the same ones that protect their right to have an opinion about it. But mostly I'd suggest you get the fuck over yourself.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 09:28 PM
14

You know what happens after they let girls join? Mothers will insist that the troop leaders be female because they aren't comfortable leaving their children alone with men.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 09:18 PM
1

That probably means you're editorializing too much. Just sayin. Edit: I'd consider posing it as an open ended question instead of an assertion. Eg: What would Feminists say about this? Edit2: Watched the video. That kid is fucking dope!
/r/MensRights22/11/15 09:08 PM
3

How important is the job to you? I'd personally throw him as far under the bus as I could manage. From your description he seems like the kind of person who puts the people around him down to keep suspicion off of his own behaviour. I've seen it countless times. Edit: when I say throw him under the bus, I mean do it behind closed doors with the appropriate person. Not go around talking shit about him. Just to be clear!
/r/MensRights22/11/15 09:02 PM
0

You can be "racist" against your own race. Look at Chris Rock.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 01:17 PM
4

Fuck those people and fuck this guy too. I'll grow my facial hair however I damn well please.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 12:08 PM
0

I'm willing to admit I am no expert. I had never heard of the Electra complex. I figured that the Oedipus complex worked for both genders. Interestingly so did Freud, not that I'm debating it one way or the other. Honestly, I'd prefer mandatory therapy over jail time anyways. I don't see how sending someone to jail fixes this problem.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 10:32 PM
1

Yah, I am starting to think you're more offended at being the butt of what seems to be a joke. Which is perfectly understandable. You don't seem too phased by the sexual nature of it.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 08:31 PM
1

I get the feeling you're more shocked someone would have the nerve to do something like this. That is to say, you don't seem like you're traumatized or anything. I'd definitely talk to your principal/guidance counsellor. If only to establish a precedent if it were to ever happen again. I wouldn't try and get her in trouble unless you have %100 undeniable evidence. It really could backfire on you in a big way.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 08:24 PM
1

I get it. But do you honestly feel violated more by her or your father? I'm only trying to figure out where you're coming from, not judging.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 05:14 PM
1

I agree that it's fucked up. Honestly, I probably just have higher standards as what constitutes being violated. Annoyed, disturbed, uncomfortable, I get. But I mean it's ultimately just words and OP seems to be offended simply because he feels he should be.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 05:13 PM
9

They did. For a week.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 01:09 PM
2

You have every right to feel however you want but can I ask you a question in all seriousness? Why do you feel violated? What is morally wrong with what she did?
/r/MensRights21/11/15 01:05 PM
0

I wasn't doubting either of their capabilities to make decisions. He was her father. Do you think she just realized at age 35 that she was incestuous?
/r/MensRights21/11/15 11:48 AM
0

You're assuming I mean the power dynamic has anything to do with age. He's her fucking father! (Pun not intended) Do you not see how that's a power that can be abused? I'm not saying that either of them weren't capable of making an informed decision. I'm saying he played a role in HER BEING LIKE THAT. You think incestuous relationships just happen on a whim?!?
/r/MensRights21/11/15 11:48 AM
0

And what is he? An innocent victim? At age 68 he's nearly twice the adult she is. Do you not understand what a power dynamic is and how it relates to sexual relationships?
/r/MensRights20/11/15 09:29 PM
1

Hey look! Another graduate from Thought Police Academy.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 05:28 PM
6

"It’s a telling example of the gender bias so prevalent in our education system, and in our culture." When I was in school a projector was something you copied notes off of.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 05:18 PM
9

Sounds like: "I'm waiting on the internet to figure out how to spin this one for me."
/r/MensRights20/11/15 01:19 AM
4

Oh no I did. I know society is guilty of pushing a masculine agenda on to men. This must make them feel like they must all act one way. I wish it didn't for all our sakes. Men should be able to cry publicly without shame, show weakness and expect kindness back. I agree with all of that. If that is the society we want, and I want it, let's make it happen. Men, you have the power to change it. You are the bosses of advertising companies, media agencies, film companies. Make the change. Instead of …
/r/MensRights19/11/15 11:40 PM
3

Is she insinuating that if you're not an able-bodied white person, you're not a man? Cause it really seems that way.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 10:19 PM
1

Wow. I never thought of it like that before.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 10:10 PM
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It's clearly a coping mechanism. High intelligence and high empathy are an extremely volatile combination. Or maybe I'm projecting, I dunno.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 09:25 PM
2

Internet points? Seriously? Maybe you should try the UN.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 09:18 PM
3

"They just need to open up more. Then we totally won't shit on them." There's a ton of clever wordplay in this video.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 09:14 PM
0

Awww I think I earned a fan too.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 08:34 PM
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This is a fucked up topic. As a libertarian I think it's their right (as adults) to do whatever they want with their bodies. As an individual I think it's fucked up. The only real reason I know of for it being ILLEGAL is the risk of conceiving an inbred child. My only concern is how the same logic could be used to keep disabled people from breeding. Heck, I'm not even sure it isn't already the case. So since it is illegal and a crime has been committed, was the punishment fair?mm I actually thin…
/r/MensRights19/11/15 08:30 PM
0

Omg. The irony. I'm dying.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 08:13 PM
0

You're always so melodramatic. Edit: I don't know how you got downvoted so fast but it wasn't me.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 08:09 PM
0

Careful. They'll now witch hunt you and try to get you fired. No they won't. If Feminists could see my work dynamic they'd have me crucified. To call it sexual harassment would be an understatement. But let that hatred fester and simmer. Soon enough enough of us will be angry enough to do a mass walkout on women. Sorry dude, I'm not all that angry about it. There are downsides to being the only man in a workplace full of women, I'll give you that, but the advantages (in my experience) have far o…
/r/MensRights19/11/15 08:05 PM
5

That's the thing about bleeding hearts. People are more than willing to squeeze out every drop.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 07:00 PM
8

Someone else is educated on the art of passive aggression I see.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 03:21 PM
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Pretty sure its a passive aggressive way of saying you need mental help.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 03:20 PM
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It's an IMD miracle! :)
/r/MensRights19/11/15 02:40 PM
3

Way to disenfranchise West Indians you Americanocentric sectarian. (amidoingitright?)
/r/MensRights19/11/15 04:04 AM
1

Glad you actually had something to back yourself up with. I knew of the revisions to ethics codes, which is probably the biggest success. Everything else seemed more like GawkerGate, which is cool cause fuck gawker.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 11:59 PM
1

I look at it this way. I completely support freedom of religion but I am an atheist and in no way religious.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 10:03 PM
1

Why do I always see people talking about the "success" of GamerGate? I'm subbed to KiA and sort by new. Was there some sort of victory I am unaware of?
/r/MensRights18/11/15 10:01 PM
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He's an adamant egalitarian. It's pretty much just an issue of semantics.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 08:36 PM
1

Seems like you'd have a better chance getting Jews to celebrate Christmas.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 06:01 PM
4

You'd think we were playing blackjack the way these bigots double down.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 06:00 PM
5

I wouldn't personally choose the word oppression unless we are talking about class.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:10 AM
1

I'm not in favour of tribalism. But Tribalism exists, and it needs to be dealt with. Most people have a hard time with empathy, and understanding alternative viewpoints/perspectives. Some people just can't take someone seriously if they don't view them as similarly enough to themselves. I'm glad we finally understand each other. This is not something that I enjoy, appreciate, or even want to happen. But that's simply the reality of the human condition currently. Ignoring it won't make it go away…
/r/MensRights13/11/15 01:52 AM
2

It's interesting how they never seem to go after country music. Have you listened to that shit? It's on par with rap music for "misogyny" and promoting "traditional gender roles".
/r/MensRights12/11/15 11:40 PM
5

Hey while we're changing Metal to be more inclusive... Would you mind toning down on the anti-religious sentiments? It really conflicts with my Catholic sensibilities /s
/r/MensRights12/11/15 11:26 PM
1

I'm honestly a bit baffled by this notion you have right now... What areas are White men not represented in politics? Just because there are some biased laws doesn't mean that they aren't represented. It means that they fear certain political groups, and their backlash. I'm not saying white people aren't represented. Do you really think that's why I'm arguing with you? In case I wasn't clear, I think it's meaningless. I'm not a hypocrite. Women are doing pretty well too I'd argue. Equally as wel…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 11:05 PM
1

I can totally see him being one of those bosses who choose to "set an example" by working himself half to death and becomes bitter when no one else seems to be as motivated to do so. Obviously this is based on a small sample size but most of the anti-union types are like that.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 09:31 PM
2

Isn't owning the means of production the definition of a capitalist? The fucking balls on this guy.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 09:14 PM
1

Except that is not what I said.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 08:21 PM
2

So its racist for me to point out the double standard? I'm confused.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 08:13 PM
2

Why is it racist for me to say it but not a POC?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 08:04 PM
2

But I'm not saying POC are a problem...
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:57 PM
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We live in a world where white men are expected to respect people of colour and women but are shown no such respect in kind. We paint all white people as the same, ignoring the diversity that exists between such nationalities as Italian, German, french, English, Swedish, etc. We've been tricked into thinking that diversity only matters if you're skin is a different colour. "White" people have no inherent love for other "white" people because we're just as guilty of discriminating against each ot…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 06:05 PM
3

Can you share some examples of this traditionalist agenda?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 09:31 AM
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Would you say that a low economic class white man, has the same experiences as a low economic class black man? The fact that racism currently exists says otherwise. So since racism is a current reality, these different groups will have different experiences. That's a fact. And it's not meaningless. I'd say the low economic black man has more in common with the low economic white man than he does a high economic black man. Believe it or not people face ridicule from each other for more reasons th…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 09:28 AM
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If you choose to look at it in absolutes. My point would have been people, both male and female, are capable of having a shitty attitude towards boys being taken advantage of. Doesn't matter if you're a feminist or not. PS. What does a feminist using male rape victims to push her agenda really prove? Her point isn't to show any sympathy to the male victims and only to shit on men.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:57 AM
5

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/29/barbara-ellen-madeleine-martin-comment
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:50 AM
5

Agreed. As innocent as it may seem it's still an example of how female sexuality is valued over male.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:28 AM
1

Thanks for challenging my opinion. It was interesting. I can definitely see men getting involved because a girl wants them to. My point never was to argue that sex isn't a common reason they'd join. I'm just really against the corrupt version of socialism Feminism would have us adopt. It's disgusting to see these privileged college kids talk about things they've never had to experience. The fact that they ignore class struggle is a slap in the face to a legitimate reason that "oppression" exists…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:10 AM
1

Racism - consists of ideologies and practices that seek to justify, or cause, the unequal distribution of privileges or rights among different racial groups. Racism - the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Caring about how many white people were in the cabinet would be racist if you seek a majority number of white people. That's the point. They are se…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 07:02 AM
1

Honestly, you have convinced me that there is a lot more to it than my theory and yours. Ultimately I think it's about validation. Since validation can come in many forms such as sex/money/power/fame. Perhaps we can chalk it up to an Oedipal urge for validation from the Mother.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 06:07 AM
2

In my opinion male disposability is a danger to trans-men and trans-women alike. One of them inherits it and the other is truly never free of it.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 05:52 AM
1

I seem to have a similar opinion of Feminism as you do. I get a feeling we have read a lot of the same things. You are projecting your opinion of Feminism based on the research you have done. You have assumed that these people had an interest in reading the same material and drawing the same conclusion. Do you really think the Feminist media portrays themselves in such a negative light? We'd have no problem if everyone saw things the way you suppose they do. I get it Feminism=Bad but obviously n…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 05:35 AM
1

Are you saying that it doesn't matter at all? Yes. I am saying that if it matters to you, it's racist. If I said I cared about how many white people were in the cabinet I'd be branded a bigot. How then do we encourage this attitude from anyone who isn't? Seriously. Can you not see how this is the wrong approach? Feeding the idea that it is okay to be prejudiced about such things? Even if its done with the best intentions. Because if it didn't matter, then everyone would be identical. We would es…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 05:18 AM
3

I'd support it. It would have an interesting effect on how we'd look at jobs that are currently relegated to minimum wage.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:49 AM
1

Which I'd argue is the very heart of racism.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:37 AM
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Perhaps I am insinuating that the shape they are in has more relevance to them failing the physical?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:01 AM
1

Kids make fun of each others parents for other reasons too. It's something we all deal with.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:53 AM
1

Can you not see how caring about what gender or race someone is or isn't is kind of fucked up?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:47 AM
1

Oh I'm not saying it isn't wrong of them to do it. We don't get to chose that. We can only choose how it effects us.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:37 AM
1

So then why does it matter if she's a woman?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:42 AM
1

You are absolutely right. Groups need to be represented properly. And for the same reason you say this: I'm not saying that a Black member will represent 100% of the Black population. It's not about representation of the community. It's why I will say: It's even why this thread exists... Groups need to be represented properly. And that can take many forms. Because: It's not about representation of the community. And therefore I am saying it is in fact meaningless. No strawman. It either has mean…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:39 AM
1

What does this tell me about her stance on women's issues? Is she pro-life or pro-choice?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:24 AM
1

I'm not arguing that it's a negative. I'm saying it's meaningless. Everyone. Every. Single. Person. Has a unique and "diverse" opinion. To think that someone represents your best interest because they are the same gender or color is inherently racist. It absolutely cannot be any less. So have your diversity but until you stop caring what people look like don't revel in the hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:20 AM
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Fat-shaming is illegal on reddit right?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:07 AM
5

The idiots have been hogging the sun for too long now.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 02:04 AM
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I'd like to thank the CBC for airing that ridiculous "debate" and high-lighting the kind of people we're dealing with.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 01:21 AM
1

No. You know what is ridiculous? Looking at someone's skin colour or genitalia and thinking it means ANYTHING about them, their experience, their perspective, or their interests. Again. Because I don't believe that their physical characteristics define them and they are qualified, I don't really care. What's ridiculous is parading it around like some sort of moral fucking victory.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 01:10 AM
1

So you're admitting it's discrimination now?
/r/MensRights12/11/15 12:50 AM
2

category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to Unless you are going to tell me that this cabinet was "balanced" by a mere coincidence then at some point they had to discriminate. Just because they are the most talented of their gender/ethnicity doesn't mean they weren't picked because of it. This was a deliberate act, there is no question. All that is left to talk about is why it is justified. The article highlights how even in this so-called "balanced" cabinet there are citize…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 12:39 AM
5

Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit. Sounds like discrimination to me. Edit: I think should be clear, I'm not against what Trudeau did. It's the grandstanding of it that I take offense to. A handful of women are about as representative to the issues of women (as a whole) as they are of mine. I…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:43 PM
1

I agree with you but forcing a woman to have or keep an unwanted child is not the way of achieving it.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:39 PM
1

I agree with you but forcing a woman to have or keep an unwanted child is not the way of achieving it.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:39 PM
3

It's a women's issue that happens to effect men. If men want to support it there are systems already in place. Men have no right telling a woman what she can/should do with her body. Why should /r/MensRights?
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:39 PM
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But I thought your skin colour or your gender had no bearing on who you are as a person. Aren't we all the same? Or are we only allowed to discriminate when it's beneficial?
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:21 PM
1

Excuse me! It's not diversity if it wasn't mandatory.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:03 PM
6

Thank you Karen. I'm sure this doesn't need to be said but please keep us informed!
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:53 PM
5

I dunno. Hiring someone because they're the most qualified of their respective demographics still seems sketchy. I can just see Trudeau asking for the applications to be ordered according to minority status.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:45 PM
8

/r/socialism Proving daily why socialism is only good in theory.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:39 PM
1

The way I see it is if they are going to make fun of my skin colour it means they have nothing else to work with. Seriously, people insult each other for a myriad of reasons everyday. If I'm going to be offended because of jokes about my race then I'm basically saying my race is my identity.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:23 PM
3

Naw not really. My last Chef was a vegan and I've dated two. It's more of an industry thing than an anti-vegan bandwagon. I feel the same way about them as I do Jehovah's witnesses. Do whatever makes you happy. Come knocking on my door then you're fair game.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 09:20 PM
3

What I really need to know is how many are vegan! Edit: upon further reflection, its safe to say there are none in the cabinet. Otherwise they'd have been sure to let us know ;)
/r/MensRights11/11/15 08:20 PM
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I don't doubt the merit of the staff he chose. I just find it laughable that he must have had the applications indexed by sex and race. You are the best woman for the job! You are the best Sikh for the job!
/r/MensRights11/11/15 07:09 PM
8

Why do I get the feeling the narrative is about to change... Pretty soon Feminists are going to deny standing in the way of men organizing to discuss men's issues.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 06:38 PM
1

That sex isn't the primary motivator for men attaining wealth and power. I mean, it's straight up evolutionary biology. Scarcity. Obtaining a means of survival is on par with reproduction. I'm not arguing that sex isn't a primary motivator for men to obtain these things. You're arguing that they are mutually exclusive. Like seriously: If my main motivation for the day is to cut my hair, and that is motivated by my wish to become more attractive, it doesn't change the fact I'm getting my fucking …
/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:26 PM
1

I don't disagree. However the approval of the mother/father complex is not a can of worms I'd like to open here. :)
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:01 PM
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EDIT: Also, you claim they are not taking away from the "haves", but they in fact are. They are constantly trying to pass laws that would force men to not get something so a woman can have it instead, be it a job on the board of directors, money men worked to earn (because there isn't suddenly more money to pay staff higher wages based on their genitals), a place to hang out with like minded people, the right to have a different opinion, shit, even the right to like certain things. Not to mentio…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:55 PM
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I'm saying you have constructed your logic on a collection of flawed premises, and thus your conclusion is not accurate. What are these false premises? When it comes to someone's net worth, do they not strive to maintain and grow? How do people feel about taxes in general? I can't believe you'd argue that somehow people aren't concerned with keeping what they have earned is a false premise. I agree with the idea that Patriarchal theory is basically a rebranding of marxist classism This is the on…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:48 PM
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I'm not arguing that the things you say aren't true. Are you saying they make what I am saying false? I'm just not sure what you're getting at that's all.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:40 AM
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That's a pretty good argument for what motivates them to make money. It doesn't actually disprove my claim. Either way its still a motivating factor. Besides if the only reason ever to make money is to get women then why do women even work? I'm not saying you're wrong but its a chicken or the egg style debate. And honestly if I concede that it's a secondary motivation it doesn't take away from the point I was trying to make.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:24 AM
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You raise a good point. It was a confusing use of 'you' in a royal manner. Fixed.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:32 AM
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What the hell are you on about? I'm not saying Feminism is good here. I'm saying these men aren't their targets. Feminism isn't a threat to their way of life. I'm not saying it isn't a threat to anyone in general!
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:26 AM
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It was a contradiction to me calling it healthy that's for sure!
/r/MensRights10/11/15 02:16 AM
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I hadn't considered the opposite side of the spectrum when I wrote that. Nice counterpoint.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:57 AM
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Asking for advice is a way of showing you respect their opinion. It's not a command. It's his dad. Can't he just tell him that he is unhappy? This way at least he has a chance to hear his dad's thoughts instead of wondering what he might think. Maybe if he's honest about his motivations then his dad will respect that and he'll get the validation he needs?
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:52 AM
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If he respects the person's opinion that much, then he should ask them for advice.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:41 AM
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It's kind of funny. Men support women for centuries. Feminism calls it oppression. A woman supports a man while he gets back on his feet? He feels ashamed.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:35 AM
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This just in. Women take an extra 2-3 months off work a year and are confused why they aren't being paid.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:58 PM
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I absolutely agree. My contention is with the people who blindly follow the idea that women are somehow more disadvantaged than men aka Patriarchy. Before anyone reads this and thinks I'm saying "men have it worse", I'm not. Every individual will face different levels of challenge/discrimination for a multitude of reasons. Gender is only one of them. The reality is that men and women have unique issues to face and trying to compare them is a waste of time.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:44 PM
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Then I believe my stance would be: If you're going to choose the non-traditional roles and complain that the work force is unfair for women specifically, then you are ignorant. From my perspective it looks like a bunch of self-absorbed brats who wanted to have their cake and eat it to. If we're going to tackle the many ways capitalism is set up to perpetuate the success of the successful then the issues both genders face need to be addressed.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:37 PM
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Oh absolutely. I think the most disingenuous thing you can do is say its sexism and call the debate over.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:28 PM
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I've seen discussion about wage negotiation playing a factor. As a man who isn't terribly good at selling himself, I've actually been a victim of this personally.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:08 PM
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Empowerment is a subjective feeling. Anything that makes someone feel empowered is empowering by its very nature. Obviously this doesn't always mean the empowerment is of a positive nature (an example of this is rape). Personally I find that acknowledging the struggles someone is going through instead of arguing is a healthy form of empowerment. It seems to me that society has something against validating each others existence. Look at people who are suicidal, they'll often be told they are atte…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 10:59 PM
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From your self description I figured you'd jump at the chance to have a formal schedule in place.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 10:12 PM
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Feminism is holding themselves back by holding men's rights back, not the other way around. We're pointing out flaws in their current systems and rather than adjusting to meet the times they are doubling down. It's funny because these are the people who claim that "those in power will do whatever it takes to maintain that power".
/r/MensRights09/11/15 09:18 PM
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It seems like the person you were originally talking to is more interested in catharsis than change. His tactics are about as persuasive as telling an angry person to calm down.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 09:04 PM
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I am an individualist as well. I don't see discussing the stereotyped actions of the collective as blaming. It's creating a frame of reference. I can see it from your side too though. If we put too much stock in our observations as inevitable truth then there is an issue. Which is why I don't agree with the way he presented this side of the argument. It's disingenuous to blame all women for acting a certain way but it's important to highlight behaviours that lead to stereotypes.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 08:19 PM
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I don't consider myself a traditionalist. I find the fact that women have the right to choose between the two unfair. This disdain is exasperated by the fact that Feminists still aren't happy and want to rig the game in their favor from both angles.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 08:13 PM
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Though I disagree with the way he presents his side of the argument, I understand the logic it takes to think that way. The idea that men and women are equal doesn't just encompass the positive aspects of humanity. I am not about to advocate that we should embrace misanthropy or anything. There is merit to identifying that women can be just as shitty as men. Technically if you don't have much faith in humanity as a whole then expressing the ways women contribute to that is treating them equally.…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:57 PM
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He's not kidding about people regretting talking to him. He just doesn't understand why they do.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:05 PM
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There is no need to redefine capitalism. It's telling that you chose that as your example of how difficult it is to be concise. I'm not saying you are wrong or anything. I'd just place my money on you being at least open to considering the idea of socialism. Which to me, Patriarchy is just a dishonest way of critiquing capitalism in the first place. After all they were inspired by Karl Marx so it's safe to assume they are aware of class struggle. It's insufferable to have these privilege kids te…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:21 PM
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Making equal money for less work is the effective same as making more money. In fact it's worse because then women are allowed to enjoy a healthier work-life balance AND enjoy the same financial safety as those who don't share in such luxury.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 03:22 PM
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He was coming at it from the perspective that these people are intellectually dishonest. They can always come up with a new word to define the concept that society oppresses women.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:59 AM
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Add on arguing with someone who insists they know how I feel :)
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:34 AM
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The lesson Feminism needs to learn is that for a large majority of the population work is the opposite of liberation. They believed so hard that "having the right to sacrifice your time for money" was going to be all sunshine and fucking rainbows. You know why some people might not consider themselves Feminists? Not all women got cushy jobs when entering the work force. The harsh reality is that for a lot of women it would be an improvement to their quality of life if they led a traditional life…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:28 AM
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remind me never to argue with someone who looks to Taylor Swift pop tunes for empowerment inspiration. I don't look to Taylor Swift pop tunes for empowerment. I'm just not a condescending asshole who looks down on people who do. what a dumb word, it really is. Remind me never to argue with someone who has a problem with words.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:12 AM
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Could the "return" these men receive actually be something different? Think about it. They're flat out admitting that they are privileged. These are the privileged men that these women are fighting against. So these men openly admit to enjoying a privileged life but they are controlling the perception of how they received it. These people studied Marx. They are well aware of the concept of class struggle. What is the best way to subdue the criticism that is actively a threat to your comfortable …
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:04 AM
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no song is empowering. no thing is empowering. you are already empowered. you can do whatever you want, but if you need Taylor Swift to tell you in order for you to realize this, then you are not empowered. Emphasis mine. I think it speaks for itself.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 06:46 AM
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I appreciate the fact that she's basically saying "is this really the kind of person you think I am?" which is condemning this behavior if anything.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 06:18 AM
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I think you're spot on. Check out Ex-Boyfriend by him as well, I think you'll enjoy it. He's definitely not homophobic ;)
/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:44 AM
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You raise a good point.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:35 AM
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I've had multiple tall women tell me that it makes them feel insecure to date a man shorter than them. I can understand why someone wouldn't want to actively put themselves in a situation where they feel uncomfortable. I think the fact these women feel that way is a shame but we can't deny them of their experience either. And if you're offended by this I'd ask you to make sure it's not out of your own insecurity before judging her. Now women who are the same height as you? That shit wouldn't mak…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:33 AM
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Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you. -Friedrich Nietzsche
/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:10 AM
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Already a thread going! https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3s358g/cbc_panelists_discuss_mens_rights_groups_on/
/r/MensRights09/11/15 04:52 AM
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For a half a second there I thought they were going to be talking to /u/girlwriteswhat.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 04:38 AM
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What I'm getting at is this: Men don't have the liberty of responding to the monstrous ways the media portrays them by "satirizing" those tropes. Nobody's going to find the amoral, domineering husband, the date rapist or even the inconsiderate, useless slob cute and relatable when taken to the extreme. The response to a "lighthearted" portrayal of such a character would quite conceivably be a highly politicized moral panic. This was the only thing you said that I had a contention with. Have you …
/r/MensRights09/11/15 04:06 AM
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It's funny because the opening segment had me thinking it was going to be slightly sympathetic to our cause. I'll hand it to CBC for giving us the platform to at least acknowledge that there's a debate happening.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 03:57 AM
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I don't have a problem with stereotypes but I do have a problem when people judge an individual based on a stereotype. Not that it's wrong to point out when someone might be living up to one, in the right context.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 02:48 AM
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Wait so if a woman abuses a man, tries to claw his eyes out at the slightest threat, and calls the cops, and he hasn't fought back or even left signs of a struggle on her (bruises from grabbing her arms, damage to her clothes), there is almost a 100% chance he will be hauled off under the "primary aggressor" law in most states—i.e. assumed to be irrationally and unjustifiably violent because he is taller/heavier/stronger/less visibly frightened. And yet society has an "androcentric" bias when re…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 02:29 AM
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It's not as much about "fixing society" as it is supporting those affected by it. If we notice that people are suffering and do nothing then we exasperate the issue. This is why I personally take offense to the view that Men's Rights shouldn't be a thing. We have evidence of clear suffering and we want to help. To be clear this is the same reason that I support the existence of women's rights advocacy and I'm sure a lot of people here would too.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 02:05 AM
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Actually I see what you are saying. You're looking for a loophole to a million dollars and not a way to prove an ideology. I'll give you that.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:43 AM
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Let me do the "reverse the genders" thing a little: Is it not empowering when we see men speak out against the stereotypes that we are confronted with? I mean maybe you're more of the "I don't care what people think" mentality but you can't ignore the people who aren't.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:36 AM
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You didn't define Patriarchy. Edit: unless you are saying they will agree to only ever use it in that context again. Then I think we'll have no problem raising a million dollars.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:28 AM
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It's empowering to see her fighting back against it yes. You can't really argue a subjective feeling. All you can do is attempt to understand as I am doing here.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:22 AM
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You are interpreting the outcome as odds. As if the number of people who are already doing something has any relevance in a person's chance at success. What percentage chance do I have over that man to become the leader? Do I have to find out if he's a different race or sexual orientation?
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:18 AM
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The lyrics are actually her playing up to what the media portrays her as. It's her way of dealing with the backlash she gets not her getting a free pass.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:06 AM
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I have no clue what you are implying here.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:03 AM
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The song is empowering. The video is her playing up to how crazy media likes to make her out to be. They tie together because women are often stereotyped as crazy/irratic or at least many feel they are. Don't worry I'm not here to tell you that we live in a Patriarchy. However we can't deny the existence of the androcentric concepts that do exist.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:00 AM
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Be careful when looking at the world through the eye of your enemy or risk losing sight of reality. Showing double standards when they come up is one thing, creating fake outrage is another. What do you see in this video that you believe they'd find objectionable if the genders were reversed?
/r/MensRights09/11/15 12:34 AM
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It's only inconsistent if you think it's fair to compare earning less money to dying on the job.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 12:12 AM
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This reminds me of James Randi's million dollar challenge.
/r/MensRights08/11/15 11:55 PM
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"We see the evil in others because we know the evil in ourselves. We never forgive those who wound us because we believe that we would never be forgiven. We say the painful truth to others because we want to hide it from ourselves. We show our strength, so that no one can see our frailty. That is why, whenever you judge your brother, be aware that it is you who is in the dock." Paulo Coelho
/r/MensRights08/11/15 11:30 PM
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What is this "egalitarian ploy" you speak of?
/r/MensRights05/11/15 05:03 AM
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I'm pretty sure the responsibilities towards building a functional society came before the privileges of living in one. Scarcity and the fact that men were biologically more adept to providing food and shelter is a pretty decent explanation of why society would appear to favour such men. Personally, I can see where feminists are coming from with the fundamental concept of patriarchy theory. However I feel looking at the world through such a lens is prone to rampant confirmation bias. I feel simi…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:17 PM
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If we're allowed to state reasons why women have more rights than men (whether you choose to acknowledge them as rights or not) then Patriarchal Feminism falls apart at the seams. Men have enjoyed more privilege in history because they had more responsibility. Men are still leading the world in hours worked and workplace deaths. Explaining why one group has more privileges than another does nothing for those who don't share them. Again, I'm willing to concede that I don't have the solution to ba…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 08:31 PM
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Your justification for why women have the right to surrender doesn't erase the fact it's an option given to women. They have the choice to abort, place in adoption, or to surrender. What choices does a man ultimately have? Even his input into the adoption process is predicated by his being named the father, another choice women have in the process. The bottomline is when it comes to child birth men are at the behest of women and the courts. There are numerous opt outs for women at all stages of …
/r/MensRights04/11/15 07:45 PM
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If what you are saying is true to reality then we wouldn't be cutting little boys genitals. And adoption and safe haven laws wouldn't exist.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 07:12 PM
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LOL you're talking to a former MensLib mod. Pretty sure I have an infinitely better understanding of the differences between the two subs. Try talking about financial abortion over there and see the reaction you'll get. It's funny how you can talk about being pro-choice and a woman having the right to abort but if a father wants to do so financially its treated like some grand fucking sin. We discuss ALL of the same things here. We just don't have to play the mental gymnastics required to believ…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 06:49 PM
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The Men's Rights subreddit is a place for those who wish to discuss men's rights and the way said rights are infringed upon.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 08:18 AM
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Disagree with me about WHAT exactly? You bring up the "if you're not with me you're against me" bullshit in a discussion about a group called AGAINSTMensRights. Don't project your bullshit onto me because you believe in strawmen. There are plenty of feminist MHRA's because they understand the duality of "equality".
/r/MensRights04/11/15 07:07 AM
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I abhor him.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 06:49 AM
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My sentiments exactly. I cringed when I first heard it and then I kind of smirked with glee.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 03:56 AM
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Remember: She is a feminist. He is a feminist. Shut up and let them eat their own!
/r/MensRights04/11/15 03:54 AM
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Suffering is subjective.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 01:23 AM
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I got banned from AskFeminists for commenting on a thread that was re-posted HERE. Like seriously, I had enough tact to keep my opinions out of their safe space and still managed to get banned. Not that I had any particular urge to participate in their sub but I do find it rather amusing nonetheless.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 11:27 PM
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Intersectionality is just a cover for exclusionary Socialism. They have no problem with Capitalism and equality of opportunity. As long as it's straight white men doing the work and paying the taxes that support the various social services that these men are excluded from receiving.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 11:16 PM
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Ah but he's a useful one.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 10:55 PM
3

Amen! (Haven't read anything but the title)
/r/MensRights03/11/15 10:53 PM
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It's kind of cute in a pathetically sad way. Imagine these people in the real world? "It says here on your resume that you are against Men's Rights. Can you please explain why you think men should have their genitals cut at birth, fall behind in schools, put their life on the line for their country, money, and/or women, get screwed in all facets of the judicial system, and generally be treated as worthless or disposable until they break down and kill themselves or others?" "Questions like that a…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 08:24 PM
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The irony of someone named CutMRADicksOff saying this is quite amusing. What about female MRA's? Do you like to pretend they don't exist or is it just men in general you have a problem with?
/r/MensRights03/11/15 07:22 PM
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Hey that's one way to get them to rethink the ban policy ;)
/r/MensRights03/11/15 12:05 AM
1

Yes. Yes we are.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 03:34 PM
1

Breitbart TECH has both right AND left aligned writers.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 03:28 PM
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I'm aware, what I am saying is we've hit the stretch goal of $114,000 and need a new target.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 03:25 PM
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We need a new stretch goal...
/r/MensRights29/10/15 02:19 PM
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Free advertising. She goes and tells her friends I'm a fuckboy and I get new friend requests on Facebook.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 10:13 PM
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I think you and and I have something in common. Neither of us know what you're talking about!
/r/MensRights25/10/15 07:44 PM
1

I won a scholarship during the "Engineering Olympics" in high school. Some of the competition was gasp female.
/r/MensRights25/10/15 01:27 AM
1

If it wasn't for the divide between sex positive and sex negative feminist idealogues they'd probably have world domination by now.
/r/MensRights25/10/15 12:11 AM
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Maybe she should hop on the saddle every once in a while instead of laying there like a dead starfish and expecting him to give her an O. Fucking real talk. Make the man do all the work and then complain that his satisfaction is the crux of the experience? Fuck me right? No lets just shame men for getting off first and not grasping the enigma that is female satisfaction.
/r/MensRights25/10/15 12:07 AM
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And it's only mainstream if it gets clicks!
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:58 PM
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I'd love to see the justification that this has anything to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:46 PM
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Couldn't do it. Read the title. Couldn't do it.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:41 PM
1

That is exactly my point. I believe this is the "rape apologia" that they are talking about. I do not agree with the assertion, I'm just trying to understand their position.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:40 PM
1

And a natural part of that is going to be the utter rejection of the suggestion...
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:33 PM
2

And your approach would be to rustle the fewest feathers as possible?
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:28 PM
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I agree with you. I was just offering up a possibility of actual "rape apologetics" found here (if that's how they choose to define such).
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:21 PM
2

RIP in peace Playboy
/r/MensRights24/10/15 11:09 PM
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Do you consider "don't wear a bikini to a club, get so drunk you forgot your name, and go home with the frat boys" as rape apologetics?
/r/MensRights24/10/15 10:06 PM
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I think you're making a grand assumption based on the description of an emotionally charged drunk person. Theoretically you make a valid point. My biggest issue in all of this is with "feeling raped" and people adamant that this particular circumstance is in fact rape. This could easily fall under sexual assault (coercion, unwanted physical advances) but its not rape. If you don't know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are being rapeld, then it probably isn't rape. "Feeling like rape" in this …
/r/MensRights18/10/15 05:03 PM
6

Care to the explain the relevance? After seeing what he did to Chrissy Mack, a punch in the face doesn't cover what he deserves.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 07:45 PM
2

You "won" the moment he decided to use an ad hominem. Congrats!
/r/MensRights17/10/15 07:14 PM
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Though it probably wasn't the authors intent (it seems their heart is in the right place), this feels a little like gaslighting to me. The whole "Fear" debunking part takes the exceptions to the rules and uses it to dismiss the very real truths about male DV. All in all this is a nice change and a step in the right direction. Now if only they'd give up the irrational fear of the MRM and realize this is what we've been saying for decades.
/r/MensRights15/10/15 10:56 PM
1

Happy Cake Day!
/r/MensRights13/10/15 11:26 PM
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That's the funny thing about interest, it's subjective.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 11:25 PM
2

I disagree, I think this is exactly the kind of sexual strategy you would find at TRP. This has less to do with picking up a women as it does to the politics of being in a relationship. I'm not against TRP or anything, It's just important to know the distinctions.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 11:02 PM
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Though I don't doubt the existence of such women, treating all women based on a generalization is better suited over at RedPill.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 09:03 PM
0

Only if you announce it ;)
/r/MensRights13/10/15 09:00 PM
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Though I don't disagree with you, there are plenty of dudes who are just as guilty of this. Hell you're kind of doing it right now. :)
/r/MensRights13/10/15 07:54 PM
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Do you believe that women don't watch porn? Or do you need examples so you can shame her in turn?
/r/MensRights13/10/15 06:06 PM
1

Freedom of speech does not cover the right to have your opinions advertised/broadcast for the world to see. If we complain to Apple and they agree that they don't want to be associated with what she is saying they have every right to pull the plug. Edit: if people were calling for her to be arrested then you'd have a case for protecting her freedom of speech.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 04:26 PM
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Aren't you the one who got a little bent out of shape in the first place? Perhaps you should calm down and not be so quick to throw an entire movement under the bus because a stranger on the internet hurt your feels.
/r/MensRights11/10/15 08:28 PM
1

Hey who turned out the lights and why am I suddenly floating?
/r/MensRights11/10/15 08:12 PM
1

First off, I don't disagree with what you are trying to say. I have absolutely no issues with trans people in any way. However there is one thing that irks me about your definition of 'man'. You're quite literally saying that if I don't fit the typical male gender role then I am not a man.
/r/MensRights11/10/15 08:09 PM
1

The fucking definition of bias you hypocrite.
/r/MensRights11/10/15 12:10 AM
1

I was reluctantly into it for a little while but after too long I was exhausted and not into it...she grabs her vibrator and starts using it while she's riding me and puts her hand on my face as I'm staring at the wall. I feel dead and used and she's not even looking at me. I don't know at exactly what point it switched from me being into it and not wanting it to be happening any more. But I had to take a shower and I'm staring into space. YOU understand that he wanted nothing to do with it beca…
/r/MensRights11/10/15 12:04 AM
1

and she knew he wasn't into it. STOP. You talk about bias? You know literally nothing about this woman yet you profess to know her state of mind. It's one thing to condemn her actions but you're fucking speaking for her now? Stop it!
/r/MensRights10/10/15 11:51 PM
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"frozen and someone fucking them who knows they dont want it" That's not what he described either. And you talk about fucking bias?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 10:29 PM
1

Or as we're all saying: Sexual assault compared to rape. Rape is a specific form of sexual assault that is clearly defined. Please stop using it if you don't know what it means.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 08:54 PM
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Then you clearly do not take rape as seriously as I do. Rapists belong in jail. Period. You do rape victims great injustice comparing this to the feeling of not being given a fucking choice. I feel for the OP too but I know first hand how it feels to be taken. So excuse me when I say this but fuck you for implying that any form of rape is not a crime.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 08:36 PM
0

Answer my question. Should she go to jail?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 08:22 PM
1

Perhaps you should accept your bias in only hearing one side of the story. It's great that you so easily empathize with OP but do not presume that his vivid words paint the picture of how he manifested his feelings accurately. You make it sound like you were there and you saw his body language. There is one last question I have for you: Should she go to jail for this?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 08:06 PM
2

Do you feel she should go to jail for doing this to him?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 06:23 PM
0

Let me ask you something. Say his girlfriend made a post detailing this incident from her perspective. Here we find out that she is distraught because she realized after the fact (when her judgment wasn't clouded/sobered up) that he really wasn't into it. Let's assume there's remorse of the fact she took advantage of their relationship to pressure him into it. I mean it'd be unreasonable not to assume this could be her reason for crying when he brought it up. Now how would you support HER? Would…
/r/MensRights10/10/15 05:16 PM
2

You have proven why you are one of my favourite people to listen to. Your insight is greatly appreciated. I think I understand where you are coming from now. Obviously it's hard to simplify such an expansive idea but I'll take a stab: The issue isn't that he can't be a role model for the black community. It's that we shouldn't use his existence to allow ourselves to become complacent. There is still a lot of work that needs to be done and it would be disingenuous to look at him as proof there is…
/r/MensRights10/10/15 04:20 PM
1

Are you not guilty of being an armchair expert assigning blame, just in an opposite direction? If I am drunk and not paying attention while walking and I get hit by a driver who is texting while driving. Am I free of ALL responsibility? Can I not look at what I could have done to protect myself while still holding the other person accountable for their actions?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 04:10 PM
1

I will admit that part could be condemning. We don't have enough information to conclude the circumstances of why she did that. This is where it really depends on the OP to determine how he feels about it. It's easy to look at it like an act of defiant force when we examine his testimony. The way it made him feel doesn't necessarily mean it was rape. It could easily be something that is a normal part of their sexual activities and because he was in a different state of mind it had a different ef…
/r/MensRights10/10/15 03:27 PM
3

"I finally submit. I was reluctantly into it..."
/r/MensRights10/10/15 03:05 PM
4

This is stupid. Rape should NOT be ambiguous. The only reason to insist on this being rape is to attach a criminal aspect to it. Accusing your partner of being a fucking rapist does NOTHING to fix the problem. For fuck sakes it doesn't have to be rape to be unacceptable behaviour!
/r/MensRights10/10/15 03:03 PM
-1

Which of these is a healthy dialogue: Girlfriend, I am not comfortable with what happened last night. You should have listened to me when I said no and I should have stood my ground. You need to respect my boundaries in the future or this relationship cannot continue. Or You unequivocally raped me.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:59 PM
1

Is calling something rape the only way to condemn it? Am I being raped when my boss relentlessly begs me to come into work and I give in? Is it rape simply because sex is involved?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:44 PM
3

You have a loose definition of what it means to force someone to do something.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:42 PM
4

Inconsiderate. Deplorable. Selfish. Unforgivable. Inappropriate. Despicable. Unacceptable. Inhumane. Detestable. Unfair. There are a lot of words to describe her actions, we don't need to jump to rape accusations to show our disdain for her actions. I hope the two of you can work through this. Your focus should be on the communication breakdown that has occurred in your relationship. Boundaries have been broken and they need to be amended.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:03 PM
1

If regret doesn't equal rape when they say it then it doesn't equal rape when we say it. Being raped can certainly make you feel dirty and used. Feeling dirty and used does not necessarily mean you were raped. This doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for the OP, I just take rape very seriously. I'd go as far to say they were violated but that's where I'd personally draw the line.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 01:05 PM
0

Should have said it 6...
/r/MensRights10/10/15 11:58 AM
2

Thanks for taking the time to respond. If I could just ask a follow-up question. If there are no significant differences biologically (which I'm willing to accept) how do we explain the trend in choices different races tend to make? To use a example of this effect in reverse lets look at rap. Why was the fact that Eminem is white a topic of conversation? Would you argue that he was not a role model for a generation of wannabe white-boy rappers? If the difference isn't biological than it must be …
/r/MensRights10/10/15 10:13 AM
3

Please tell me how Warren Farrell could be considered "controversial" to the average non-feminist? I'd sincerely like to know. I'm willing to accept my bias but he has to be one of the softest spoken public speakers I have ever heard. People need to be given the chance to hear him speak. Warren Farrell is one of our strongest voices. We gain allies by people realizing that this man is about as non-threatening as they come and does not warrant the reaction he receives from our detractors.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:31 AM
2

Movember? Sorry to jump on a 2 day old post but if you have never heard of this then it's worth sharing.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 02:21 AM
2

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got a political craze, But nothing compares when they move up the list To the land of feminists And misogynists act like they forgot aboot Eh?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 01:31 AM
4

I'm not sure what your implication is here. Correct me if I am mistaken but I recall you advocating for young boys to have male role models (teachers specifically). I believe you were quite passionate about this. Am I misinterpreting your comment when I say you don't afford the same logic in regards to race? Perhaps your reasoning is limited to direct personal influence and not as much on the media or society at large? Or I suppose it could be that innate differences between races are in no way …
/r/MensRights10/10/15 01:19 AM
1

Would you agree that it is important for young boys to have positive male role models?
/r/MensRights10/10/15 12:51 AM
4

Definitely don't come to Canada.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 11:43 PM
6

Let me phone my contacts at the Patriarchy™... They said its on the list next to genital integrity and custody rights.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 11:04 PM
1

The link you have provided has no relevance to the title?
/r/MensRights09/10/15 11:02 PM
1

13 hours later I am greatly pleased to find my note here on top of mensrights when sorted by controversial. I can't help but wonder whether this post would have been banned in the more appropriate sub for discussing Feminism. The question needs to be raised, the question I raised in my op, essentially 'Aren't the stated goals of feminism and the stated goals of MRAs essentially the very same goals' i think it needs to be raised often and prominently even if only to be debunked. I think the argum…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 10:26 PM
2

So you lean towards traditionalist? Legit question, not a buzzword I'm throwing at you.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 01:40 PM
1

I'm slightly confused. A lot of what the MRM is fighting for is progressive.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 12:45 PM
6

Well that was pleasant. Thanks for sharing. :)
/r/MensRights09/10/15 12:03 PM
1

I wasn't joking. It was my intention to insinuate that Feminists don't consider men's issues when they're "equalitying".
/r/MensRights09/10/15 09:54 AM
2

"If you include them, they will come"
/r/MensRights09/10/15 08:20 AM
4

"A fool and his money are soon parted"
/r/MensRights09/10/15 08:12 AM
2

And here I thought I was being subtle ;)
/r/MensRights09/10/15 08:04 AM
1

At least this chick considers the needs/desires of men when exploiting them for personal gain.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 07:53 AM
3

If the definition of feminism is the prime factor in keeping someone from supporting men's rights then they aren't even the useful kind of idiot.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 07:39 AM
3

I may have left myself open to that interpretation but I assure you I entertain no such equivalency. I use the term SJW in the above where in fact I would have preferred to have a better one, more suited to purpose. It's nice that you chose a measured response instead of taking offense to my assertion. Greatly appreciated. My point is that what is and has been done in the name of feminism, or rather, as I see it, under cover of feminism is not, in fact, feminism. You are absolutely correct but y…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 06:38 AM
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You have falsely equated your battle with SJW's to the MRM's battle with Feminism. Although there is much overlap between the two camps you are vastly understating our concerns with Feminist theory. You have simplified our concerns based on their similarities to GamerGate. What you don't understand is "SJW's" are only a small fraction of the issues the MRM face. Gynocentric legislature and societal values do more harm than a bunch of keyboard warriors harassing gamers will ever do. The "dictiona…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 05:16 AM
1

He wanted to inflate his centrist ego at the top of the horseshoe. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to pick sides. I'm a centrist myself but you don't get to be the moral hero and I think he needs to find a healthier way to reconcile that.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 03:44 AM
1

I edited it to reflect my thought process.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 02:55 AM
2

Don't believe me? Check out the significant subscriber difference between the two subs. RedPill ~130k MensRights ~120k KiA ~50k Feminism ~50k What am I extrapolating here? And what victory has GamerGate achieved and what tactics are we supposed to adopt?
/r/MensRights09/10/15 02:52 AM
2

.... I was commenting on the hypocrisy of Armoured Skeptic.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 02:46 AM
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"AS: Don't drag sh0e into this" Wasn't the video in question posted BY sh0e? "AS: You're just a bunch of reactionaries" Wasn't the video in question a fucking rant about some shit Steve Shives said in one of his videos? So much fucking hypocrisy. Edited for ambiguity.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 02:33 AM
2

Chelsea Lately
/r/MensRights08/10/15 08:46 PM
1

Some of the loudest anti-feminists I have heard from are gay. Feminist theory doesn't apply favorably to alot of LGBT issues. Even this push for "intersectional feminism" hasn't done much in practice besides offer lip service. Gay men are still expected to "check their privilege" and their archaic and statistically questionable view of DV leaves lesbians/gays just as neglected as men.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 08:36 PM
11

I saw something about a push for Google to do something like they do for most holidays/events.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:47 PM
2

If you're taking that assholes opinion of trans people as representative of the MRM then you're just as guilty of false generalization as they are. I'm just saying, you'll find assholes no matter where you go. There's no need to counter-generalize. And I'll be clear that I'm aware that this behavior goes both ways.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:46 PM
3

Have you seen anything to suggest gay/trans men aren't welcome here? I've only seen evidence to the contrary.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:31 PM
2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:19 PM
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It's a matter of perspective. I've seen it painted as "women are working for free from November to January" when in reality they're just not working at all.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 10:30 PM
2

Commonlaw is absolutely necessary. How else can the government force you to pay for a child that isn't yours and a wife you never had?
/r/MensRights07/10/15 05:39 AM
2

Paternity leave...
/r/MensRights07/10/15 05:36 AM
2

You realize before the "women's suffrage" that women could (and did) vote right? That the vote wasn't tied to gender but property ownership which admittedly was a privilege afforded mostly to men. Not most men but some and which the same system allowed some women to vote?
/r/MensRights07/10/15 05:34 AM
2

Such is Reddit.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 09:12 PM
1

What do you mean by externally trusted?
/r/MensRights05/10/15 08:28 PM
2

Also one thing that I'm somewhat ashamed to admit forgetting is that as a side effect of actively rejecting feminism, this movement effectively removes the main outlet for female perspective the existence of which is absolutely vital for a wider-spread adoption of this movement as something more than a place to vent the supposedly misogynist ramblings of disempowered supporters of patriarchy or whatever. You really are new here eh? We have plenty of female perspectives: Cathy Young, Christina Ho…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 07:40 PM
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It didn't hurt that Yacine was hot as hell. Caramel skin with long black eyelashes—it looked like he was wearing mascara. His approach was more original than the rest, too. He just walked right up and asked if I'd like to smoke a joint. That about says all you need to know about this "social experiment" right there.
/r/MensRights03/10/15 08:11 PM
1

I've got no problem discussing opposing viewpoints. The fact that there are people choosing this particular thread to do so is what angers me the most.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 09:06 PM
2

Dude. You're in /r/MensRights not /r/KotakuInAction. This is a thread about a 17 year old boy who killed himself after being falsely accused of raping someone. It has nothing to do with gaming. Take this shit somewhere else.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:51 PM
8

Much tough. Such strong.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:40 PM
3

Thoughtful people brush off ridiculously generalized arguments; idealogical people focus their attention on those ridiculous arguments. Then by your own words we should brush off your ridiculously generalized arguments. You seem to understand the concept so why the cognitive dissonance in the assertions you are making?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:38 PM
11

Must be nice :)
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:27 PM
6

What narrative do you believe we are trying to maintain exactly? Do you even know the first thing we're actually about?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:21 PM
11

Feel better about yourself now?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:19 PM
1

Know Your Meme!
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:10 PM
5

Here's one for you then. Not everyone who is anti-feminist is a men's rights advocate or even a man. Not every men's rights advocate is an anti-feminist or a man either. You came in this thread with a gigantic strawman. Of all the places you could air your grievances of MRA's or /r/MensRights, you chose this one?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 11:07 PM
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Whatever asshole. Trolling a thread about a young man committing suicide shows enough about your character that I don't need to concern myself with your opinions. Keep doing what you gotta do to get your kicks dude!
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:15 PM
13

Cause you're the only one allowed to paint a strawman eh old man?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:03 PM
55

Not all women are Feminists. Not all Feminists are women. Therefore not everyone who hates Feminists hates women.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:02 PM
7

Maybe. Just fucking maybe. Knowing ONE Feminist isn't enough to make a judgment call one way or the other. "I don't get it, my friend is a feminist and she's awesome, therefore all Feminists must be awesome."
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:01 PM
5

By your logic Hitler would be innocent.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 08:54 PM
8

Your opinion is wrong because I do not share it. I don't have any facts or statistics to base this off of but my feels tell me you're just wrong. Obviously this is problematic because people might listen to your feels instead of my feels. Also... Emma Watson stated, “I have experienced sexism in that I have been directed by male directors 17 times and only twice by women. Of the producers I’ve worked with 13 have been male and only one has been a woman.” THEN STOP CHOOSING TO WORK WITH MEN. If t…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 07:57 PM
7

Can you tell which women are not worth the trouble by looking? Do you have to talk to them first? Is judging these women in such a manner a form of discrimination? And are we going to receive backlash for it?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 03:36 PM
7

They live in irrational fear. That is the equality they are achieving.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 02:38 PM
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The worst part is you just know there are sick fucks who will equate his suicide to guilt.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 02:36 PM
8

If it turns into the opt-in dating app the article mentions then I'd be all for it. I think it would be interesting to add some level of a "buyer feedback" system like Yelp or eBay to internet dating. If it's simply a place to shame people than I am not interested. They're treading on thin ice with this concept.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 05:30 AM
1

What is with this obsession over "traditional gender roles"? We are NOT fucking traditionalists.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 04:59 PM
1

I try not to worry about it so much. We're going to be called a bunch of misogynists no matter what we do or say.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 07:15 PM
1

I think the problem we're having is that you're looking at this video as if it were part of some grandiose debate. There are more than enough videos of people politely stating how absurd Feminist statistics are. Ultimately I respect your position, we need pragmatic people like yourself. Would I use this particular video as a reference in an argument? Heck no. Will I agree that these kinds of videos are unnecessary? Also no. At the very least they act as catharsis and anyone who is offended by th…
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:57 PM
1

What issues are you claiming flippancy of in this video? I'll agree that he is not taking the claims of Feminists seriously. However he is slightly embellishing the real seriousness of how their demands/policies affect men. "Your statistics are wrong." He literally says that the statistics are exaggerated in the video. "Your policies are impossible and therefore foolish." The way he shows the foolishness is by highlighting what complying might look like. The idea that you feel the message portra…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 07:42 PM
2

Are you seriously peddling the "read a book" argument? I assume you're commenting in good faith but I feel you highly underestimate the value of satire. Instead of comparing Jerry Springer why not use the likes of Colbert, Stewart, or Maher? I'm not saying there is no room for measured debate, that's what people like Warren Farrell are for. Humor is a powerful persuasive technique and satire is a great way of exposing the absurdity of your opponent. At the very least it will force a neutral part…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 12:56 AM
5

I respect your right to have your own opinion. However, if you're going to present it as a persuasive argument, I'd like to see some evidence to support your claim. Warren Farrell is one of the most soft-spoken people I've ever heard and he has been eaten alive for decades.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 10:58 PM
7

I just found this guy's channel and it's pure gold. The level of satire in his videos is quite poignant.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 08:24 PM
3

For what it's worth I don't think you deserve the downvotes.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 03:13 PM
1

Fuck George Carlin. One of my all-time favourite comedians but listening to this was a cringefest.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 02:30 AM
2

Should have used Elizabeth May.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 01:40 AM
104

Instructions unclear, sorry about the dick pic.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 01:34 AM
3

Pardon my shit post and all... but FUCK THEM.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 04:57 PM
2

This is the first time I've seen an anti-feminist protest and it was fake. That must mean something.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 08:04 PM
2

This post got me banned from AskFeminists. Funny how having the respect to share my opinion on our sub instead of theirs is an affront to them.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 07:39 PM
10

They're a male transitioning to female looking for acceptance. I don't see what having a bad experience with some TERF's has to do with MRA's. The whole "Feminists treated me shitty so I'm going to embrace Feminism" logic astounds me.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 07:11 AM
3

Since you're being candid, may I ask what your intention was in focusing the conversation on her appearance instead of her statement?
/r/MensRights20/09/15 07:39 PM
2

At least you're honest about your avoidance of the truth. I can understand why someone who doesn't concern themselves with facts and reality would find arguments stupid.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 07:17 PM
3

As soon as a pair of tits come along the whole subreddit goes to shit. You're kidding right? Show me proof that this subreddit "went to shit". I said you only listened because she had a sweet pair of tits. And I'm saying that is bullshit. I am sorry if your iq is below 67 but that doesn't excuse you from not being able to figure out that being reasonable, intelligent and logical doesn't mean her tits aren't great. Who the fuck cares about her tits? Sure they're nice but so are Laci Green's and s…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 06:55 PM
3

Exactly, personally i don't even think she was anti feminist. She was basically saying all feminists think for them selves and therefor right in what they say and think. She was saying women are capable of thinking for themselves. She's mocking the fact that Feminists purport to speak for all women. The idea that individuals think for themselves doesn't defer validity to their thoughts. I couldnt think of a more destructive comment for anti feminism or mens rights. That's because you were the on…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 05:52 PM
1

Okay then what is the difference between a Marxist and a Marxist Feminist?
/r/MensRights18/09/15 04:26 AM
1

Radical Feminists are really just Radical Marxists.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 03:52 AM
1

I'm inclined to agree with your dislike of the author's choice of words. I'm not advocating for victim shaming. What I'm saying is some measure of selfresponsibilty is required in life. Educating people to be safe is good advice to prevent most potentially dangerous situations. This isn't even a gendered issue. Raising awareness of potentially violent situations (of all kinds) is important. It's the same kind of advice you'd use to avoid being assaulted/harassed. This idea of "teach men not to r…
/r/MensRights18/09/15 12:20 AM
1

That's brilliant. I will be using that analogy the next time someone accuses me of victim blaming.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 09:28 PM
7

What I have never understood is how victim prevention is seen as victim blaming. Telling someone not to get blackout drunk and walk down a dark alley isn't the same as saying its your fault for getting raped. If you told me that I was going to a party with a bunch of known rapists and there was a high chance I'd be raped; my response wouldn't be "fuck you, tell them not to rape".
/r/MensRights17/09/15 07:57 PM
2

The funny part is you can still spam modmail when you're shadowbanned.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 06:07 PM
1

I'm not going to waste time checking their history or anything but: In my experience, this is one of the first real double standards young boys learn about. I remember thinking the exact same thing at his age.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 05:47 PM
8

CAFE is a great cause if you're Canadian
/r/MensRights17/09/15 05:01 PM
1

The difference isn't in the philosophy or the approach; its in the semantics. Honestly radfems are worse. They want socialism for the supposedly marginalized while their "oppressors" (men) remain trapped to the confines of Capitalist hierarchy. Men must work hard and pay taxes to support social services that help those who are unwilling/incapable of making it on their own. They're using the state to hand out the beneficial aspects of capitalism while leaving men to carry the burdens/responsibili…
/r/MensRights17/09/15 01:49 PM
4

"I didn't mean it! Let me tell you how I actually feel..." Insert long winded rant restating the same fucking position.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 09:23 PM
1

The most fucked up thing about this for me personally? I would actually prefer some sort of democratic socialism. Whatever version of that they're basically pushing is fundamentally sexist. This is hugely problematic to use a tired phrase.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 03:53 AM
2

I think the Feminism he is talking about is third-wave Feminism or at least that's what I'm referring to in this post. I'm on my phone or I'd link the connection to Marxism and Feminism for you. Although a quick Google search will reveal that it is by no means a secret.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 01:39 AM
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Yeah cause its just that simple eh? How condescending of you. Next you're going to tell me that teaching men not to rape is going to solve "rape culture".
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