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your quoatibility is freaking me the fuck out
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:42 AM
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your post is stressing me out!
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:21 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=last+minute+resistance
/r/seduction10/08/12 08:10 PM
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i love the conditional raincheck, stealing it
/r/seduction10/08/12 07:25 PM
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she probably has a boyfriend or something. when she made the first objection in the car, i'd have said "why, is your boyfriend coming home earlier than expected?" but anyway. next time a girl doesn't wanna do something, don't make her do it. until you know what you're doing, she should always be the one who wants your company more than you want hers. people on here spend a lot of time worrying about coming across as an "AFC", but not enough time avoiding coming across as a "THG" (typical horny g…
/r/seduction10/08/12 07:24 PM
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it's either she has a boyfriend or she's afraid you're only interested in her for sex, so once she sleeps with you, she may never see you again. what follows is a solution for the latter. when she rejects your sexual advances, just smile, say no problem, we can just watch tv or whatever. just turn the lights on and do something boring, or put something boring on tv, and don't give her much physical affection (but don't be cold, either). when she asks why, just say "oh babe, i'm not upset at all!…
/r/seduction10/08/12 07:04 PM
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start relating to the emotions behind their stories, not just the content. for example: "oh you fed the elephants at the zoo? that must have felt so <insert>! whenever i want to feel that way, i <insert>." also, ask more open-ended questions, ask them to expand on things, etc.
/r/seduction10/08/12 06:58 PM
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It doesn't matter how much you are interested/attracted to a woman...it doesn't matter how much you have in common or the connection you may have...it all boils down to a statistical percentage statistics are just a way for us to account for variables when we don't understand how they fit into the equation. all the things you listed improve the odds of your getting those digits, as well as bunch of other things we can't account for. She wasn't interested (she didn't say that, but she just never …
/r/seduction10/08/12 11:05 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ior3iIXjMTU
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:53 AM
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yeah they will have some good experience-based advice for how to get mono girls to accept your polyamorous lifestyle.
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:38 AM
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xpost this to /r/polyamory edit: not /r/polygamy
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:19 AM
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you shouldn't be consciously remembering stuff like that. just pick one new thing to practice each day.
/r/seduction09/08/12 04:46 AM
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love this
/r/seduction08/08/12 01:20 PM
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touché.
/r/seduction08/08/12 10:35 AM
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this is a great question! it's super general, but it's specific enough to be easy to answer, plus it's fun! i'm asking everyone i meet this from now on.
/r/seduction08/08/12 10:23 AM
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you need to say it in a way that makes it obvious you don't give a shit if she responds negatively.
/r/seduction08/08/12 10:21 AM
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wow, this takes me back. i'm a bit ashamed to say that i've done this, and that it works. some phones will even let you put calls from specific numbers on silent, too. just don't tell her it's on silent, though, or she'll realize that you're still responding as soon as you see it.
/r/seduction08/08/12 10:06 AM
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one fun thing that women do at bachelorette parties is they play games that have all the women talk to all the guys in the bar. within an hour, the whole bar is super social and everyone knows all the girls. i've never seen guys do anything like this, but i think it could work.
/r/seduction08/08/12 09:05 AM
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EDIT: Thought about this more, a specific question I have is how do you get a alpha female you are in a "game war" with out of tactical mode around you so you can have the possibility of something deeper? Do I put down my weapons first? yes, just compliment her on her skills. tell her you find that sexy in her. she'll assume that you only date fiesty girls like her.
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:58 AM
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you won't make yourself into a great dancer, so just embrace your shitty dancing and have fun with it. you just don't want to appear conscious of or concerned with your bad dancing, that's the worst. you don't even have to dance, though. i just say something like "you know that energy inside you that's feeding off of the music and just wants you to release it on the dance floor? yeah, i wish i felt that! as soon as i do, you better be ready."
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:26 AM
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nice. these women are seductive, they know it, they get off on it, so do i, and so do you apparently. when you recognize she's running game, feeding you a line, etc., just smile and say "respek", or otherwise compliment her on her highly refined skills. the biggest thing on her mind right now will be fear of your being judgmental, so you need to be positive and open-minded, this is a bad time to get jealous. if she's open to it she might provide you with some game wisdom.
/r/seduction08/08/12 04:32 AM
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why are you so desperate for advice right now? how about you go to that topic and be a giver for once in your life? don't embarrass us, buddy.
/r/seduction02/08/12 09:14 PM
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nice i'll check it out, thanks!
/r/seduction29/07/12 05:22 PM
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take it easy. i know, it's ironic that so much effort is expended researching, reshearsing, analyzing, etc., to create the appearance that no effort is being expended. but how about you try mentoring someone that comes here for help. what are you gonna tell them? "just be yourself!"? they've heard that before. they're here for a jumpstart, and these robotic pre-prepared dialogues and behavaiors are just that. a jumpstart. they worked for me, and they work for lots of lonely guys who never learne…
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:54 PM
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i've gotten so used to being direct with my interest that i feel like any time i'm not expressing it i'm saying "hey i'm just your friend", but that's probably my own insecurities.
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:23 PM
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i guess i might be overly cautious on this one
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:16 PM
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a lot of guys are so careful to show absolutely no interest, bc they're deathly afraid of rejection, that when they finally show interest after building up rapport, it just doesn't make sense. it's quite common.
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:13 PM
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oh that's what you meant by 5 minutes. probably not to that extent, but she might see you as more of a potential friend than a potential lover.
/r/seduction29/07/12 02:05 PM
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Yes. I am talking about 5 minute segments, though. Not half an hour. can you explain what you mean? And you don't get friendzoned before AFTER the first date. It's on the first date you escalate. If you are not able to escalate on the first date, things gets complicated. guy asks girl for first date, girl says "but we're friends! i see you as a friend! i'm sorry! now it's awkward!"
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:49 PM
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here's the problems with building rapport before showing interest. women can sense this shit. she's gonna know he's into her but too scared to hit on her like an alphamale. and when he eventually hits on her later, it'll just confirm it. also, building rapport before showing sexual interest is the most common way guys get friendzoned.
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:45 PM
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why would it be awkward? if she says "oh sorry i have a boyfriend!" and he says "oh, no problem! far be it for me to interfere with a happy couple. it was nice to meet you! take care!" (smiling, waving, turning body language away, waiting for her to say bye so he can walk away) it would not be awkward at all at the next class. the only way it would be awkward is if he said the same shit to another girl in the same class the next week.
/r/seduction29/07/12 01:40 PM
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after class, smile, eye contact, hi, pause, sincere compliment, exchange names, tell her you find her attractive, ask her if she has 10 minutes after you guys get cleaned up in the locker room to grab a smoothie (or whatever)
/r/seduction29/07/12 11:59 AM
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nice!
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:49 AM
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i think the key is to get better at reading their emotions. it's not easy, because people hide their emotions to minimize their vulnerability. it sucks when you make them cry, that's the worst. making them upset and yelling at you is fine, because you can let them vent, then apologize sincerely and say you respect them for standing up for themselves, you really like that about them.
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:26 AM
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well poly people would call that cheating, because it's purposefully misleading someone into thinking you're monogamous with them when you're not
/r/seduction29/07/12 10:03 AM
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women in relationships in general do that all the time... it's just something women do, but i'd think poly women would be way less likely to do it. i don't know for sure, though.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:47 AM
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poly people are generally dedicated to remaining completely honest in all of their relationships.
/r/seduction29/07/12 09:16 AM
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no, because you overanalyze shit and that fucks you up.
/r/seduction29/07/12 08:35 AM
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are you in the class?
/r/seduction29/07/12 08:25 AM
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damn i'm not even sure this is possible. i went through the same thing, it was an exciting, yet bumpy ride. it taught me a lot, though. now i find myself doing/saying to girls the same things she did/said to me. and it's gold.
/r/seduction29/07/12 08:00 AM
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funny thing is, he was being a douche, and i didn't downvote him. and his original comment of "this belongs in /r/dating advice because it's not about seduction" made no sense, because we were talking about friendship. but i guess a lot of people who get cheated on come to seddit to try to regain the power in their relationships, and my comments just poured some salt in their wounds.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:46 AM
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complicated? chicks with bfs/husbands want usualy casual sex only. the simpler the better, for them.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:39 AM
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If she has a strong desire to be faithful and monogamous with her boyfriend yup. this is how they let you know they're willing to cheat. you clearly express sexual interest in her after you know she has a bf, and then she criticizes her bf.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:38 AM
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yea, no cheating with hood chicks.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:36 AM
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i'm in an open relationship and we use boyfriend/girlfriend. girls in relationships of anykind, though, often lie and say they're single to avoid scaring you off.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:35 AM
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not a waste of time AT ALL! women cheat more than men, you just have to be discreet and not get them in trouble.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:23 AM
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she wouldn't have said to add her on fb if she was open to going on a date. the only exceptions would be 1) if her phone is broken, or 2) if she has a boyfriend who checks her phone, shares a phone bill with, or who might get suspicious if she's texting/calling someone new. girls cheat more than guys, so don't get scared off if it turns out to be a boyfriend. unless he's violent.
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:20 AM
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be honest. how many people downvoting the "share and share alike" opinions are butthurt because they've been cuckolded?
/r/seduction29/07/12 07:09 AM
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it's not your girl, it's just your turn.
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:45 AM
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i needed to learn the hard way how to balance my teasing, i think most people do. made some chicks cry.
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:25 AM
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here's an exercise to get good at telling a story about anything. if you can't think of anything to say, just tell a story about the last thing she said. if you can't remember, point at something nearby and be like "oh shit! a _____! i love those things, this one time ..." exercise: http://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/xaedw/i_know_how_to_talk_to_people_but_not_what/c5km5bm
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:25 AM
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i didn't downvote you, douche.
/r/seduction29/07/12 04:02 AM
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he's talking about being friends with her. why would you be friends with someone whom you don't respect?
/r/seduction29/07/12 03:59 AM
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good points
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:51 AM
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agreed
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:12 AM
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cute.
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:01 AM
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oh i didn't mention, if your eye contact is too strong, she could feel uncomfortable returning it. holding eye contact is super-aggressive in a lot of cultures, too.
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:34 PM
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i'm proud of ya dude!
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:26 PM
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it's usually the cheaters themselves who are paranoid and untrusting. watch out for that, big red flag.
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:16 PM
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you know what the definition of being alpha is, really? it's not thinking about who you "should" be, and just being. not trying to manipulate the outcomes of interactions, and just going along for the ride. good or bad, whatever happens will hopefully at least be interesting. some girls will bring out your playful side (usually extroverts), some girls will bring out your serious side. it doesn't matter which one you are, as long as it's not done with desperation.
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:14 PM
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do you enjoy playing any sports, even if poorly?
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:58 PM
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dude. high five!
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:57 PM
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but don't you disrespect her for her vile cheating ways?
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:56 PM
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everyone has the urge to cheat, who cares if the only reason they didn't do it is they didn't wanna get in trouble? once you get over it and stop trying to control your girlfriends' actions, it stops being hypocrisy.
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:42 PM
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cool dude, good luck. try to take a (pref female) friend with you next time to watch your bodylanguage, that might be where you're going wrong
/r/seduction28/07/12 10:04 PM
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yes, or just walk over to the group and say "hey guys, your friend over here is really cute, i wanted to meet her. is it okay with you if i borrow talk to her for a couple minutes?"
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:05 PM
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nice effort, dude! where are you doing this, the street? the best place for street game is places where people wander around. areas with lots of stores and maybe a nice view or something where people are just walking slowly, wandering, window shopping, chatting, whatever. good places for daygame are anywhere your day takes you. the mall is good, especially since you're in hs. tons of jailbait in there, and it's a bit more social. see a girl who catches your eye in bebe or something, just walk in…
/r/seduction28/07/12 08:54 PM
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there might be some truth to this..
/r/seduction28/07/12 07:52 PM
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what is there to hide? chances are she's already picked up on your true thoughts already, anyway. women get a sense about these things. by hiding them, you're coming across as needy. desperate for approval. by being an open book, not playing any games, you come across as secure and confident.
/r/seduction28/07/12 07:01 PM
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ohhh i thought you wanted to text them but were holding back to avoid being needy. well then, you're already winning by not playing games. they're frustrated because they're not getting their way. tease them about it, flirt with them. 'you're so spoiled, you're lucky i'm attracted to you', etc edit: another good line is "does that usually work?", and you can get a running joke going with "babe, are you trying new lines out on me?" and when she tries to manipulate you, tell her how good of a line…
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:40 PM
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chances are she's bored with the convo and just would feel bad ending it. if you don't think that's it, though, just ask her who she's looking for. she'll explain why she's looking around, and you can talk about that.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:31 PM
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angle the camera to the side or something so it's not too revealing. take a bunch of pics and pick one that looks good but wouldnt have to be blurred out on primetime tv. then, tell her to send a pic doing the same pose, naked, and you'll advise her on her form edit: that's actually asking a lot. she prob wouldn't want to send a full body naked pic. if you do decide to send her this (and you shouldn't feel like you have to), then i don't really know where to go next... edit2: duh, make it sexual…
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:24 PM
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all women are crazy, especially the single ones. and they're good at hiding it, too.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:22 PM
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you're both playing games. but you have to keep in mind, she's had more experience than you, and you still haven't fucked her, so she has the advantage. how do you win in this situation? you simply say 'i'm not going to play games', that automatically makes you superior. to answer your overall question though, once she's attracted to you, you should focus on finding a way to express your genuine attraction to her based on something other than her looks. once you do that, it lets her be super slu…
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:19 PM
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it's usually best to do non-appearance related compliments, but sincerity is really the most important thing so see how it goes
/r/seduction28/07/12 02:10 PM
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"hi, there! i was just on my way to class, and i wanted to stop and tell you, that you are really cute!" if she says something, just wing it from there. if she just stares at you, she's probably trying to figure out if you're serious or just fucking with her. introduce yourself and do the whole getting-to-know you chit-chat.
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:55 AM
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don't use a height-related nickname, too predictable. just wait until you get to know her a bit better and see what things she loves.. favorite fruit is a peach? call her peaches. something will come to you. don't feel rushed, if she asks what her nickname is, just say you haven't gotten to know her well enough to come up with an accurate one.
/r/seduction28/07/12 09:44 AM
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ty, frient!
/r/seduction28/07/12 08:26 AM
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dude don't you dare beat yourself up over this, you actualy went out! lots of people don't even make it out the door! next time, forget all that rigid body language. if you aren't comfortable, girls will sense it. just stand normally, and the only thing you should change is shift your focus to your shoulders once in a while and let them drop, bc you'll probably find that they're tensed up. now, there's no reason why you have to start out approaching hot girls. you know why that's a bad idea? bec…
/r/seduction28/07/12 05:48 AM
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yeah i dont know, something like "dude, you're so much fun, and i'm sensitive about my personal space, please don't grab on me like that." (smile) <back to normal convo>
/r/seduction28/07/12 05:36 AM
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my experience confirms this
/r/seduction28/07/12 04:48 AM
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it's a long journey, and it's different for everyone. you have to experience different kinds of relationships. date a girl way out of your league who you're obsessed with, then date someone who's obsessed with you and you don't give a shit about. seeing relationships from both of those perspectives teaches you a lot. you won't find that in a book. also. make some genuine friendships with hot slutty girls. getting an unobstructed view into that world will change your perspective forever. to be 'a…
/r/seduction28/07/12 02:11 AM
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is thise code for fob asians? im guessing you're usually playful/bantery with the extroverts? try going in direct/genuine/low energy with the introverts. the whole time you're talking to them, they'll be trying to figure out whether you're a player or you're being sincere. so, give them your full attention, and treat them with kid gloves, in a gentlemanly way. let them know right away you're attracted, and go right into rapport.
/r/seduction28/07/12 02:03 AM
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congrats dude! it's a hard process but totally worth it in the end.
/r/seduction28/07/12 01:44 AM
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yeah i know dude, it's scary to put yourself out there, but once you say that magic word "sexy", it's all easy. she's either gonna be really attracted to you and willing to pretty much follow your lead, or she'll back off, in which case you saved yourself some time talking to a chick who wasn't gonna be into you anyway.
/r/seduction27/07/12 11:58 PM
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well, when you first meet them at the party, thats when you do the stuff i said (unless their boyfriend is around). don't wait until facebook, then it's a lot harder
/r/seduction27/07/12 11:37 PM
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oh do it in person for sure! you see them at school or something right?
/r/seduction27/07/12 11:09 PM
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yeah it's a great talk, you'll enjoy it
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:51 PM
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yeah, and it's the ultimate show of confidence. at the end of the day, if you're avoiding being vulnerable, it's out of fear. you should do a follow-up post in the form of your takeaways and tangential thoughts from this ted talk https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html?
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:38 PM
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are you going on singles cruises? how much do these run?
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:29 PM
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IDENTITY??? bring a lot of weed! instant socialization tool. find people who are already smoking weed and offer to share a J with them. meet their friends, their friends' friends, etc.
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:28 PM
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i went through something similar, except not as extreme. i had to delete the chick from my life for a year. no contact. no pictures, texts, calls, mutual facebook friends, nothing. eventually, i got over it, and you will, too. you just need distance. delete.
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:22 PM
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nice! i really believe that vulnerability is the key to higher-level game. it's good to finally see a pickup-related article on it.
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:18 PM
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"blah blah blah blah" (fast, making a silly face) (they laugh) (smiling) "you guys look like fun. what's up?"
/r/seduction27/07/12 10:16 PM
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i'm not sure what that means, and i like it.
/r/seduction27/07/12 08:16 PM
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no, don't flirt with her friends. unless you want to fuck them, which is definitely possible. just treat her friends like you would your little 12 yr-old sister's friends and try to pretend they're ugly.
/r/seduction27/07/12 07:05 PM
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whether it's good or bad just depends on your perspective. the best thing to do is take anything they say as a compliment and sincerely thank them. if they were trying to dis you, they'll feel frustrated. if they were joking/teasing, they'll feel validated. how is being called a dork a good thing? she feels comfortable enough with you to tease you. she wouldn't walk up to a complete stranger and say that, because they'd take it as an insult and that would be rude. we tease our close friends and …
/r/seduction27/07/12 05:39 PM
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this is fine as a stepping stone. there's a really good ted talk on being vulnerable that will take you to the next level when you're ready. http://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html
/r/seduction27/07/12 05:32 PM
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i did do this at first. telling other people's stories that hadn't really happened to me. saying things i never would have said because it's what a confident guy would have done. i cringe thinking about it today, but i guess it gave me the jumpstart i needed.
/r/seduction27/07/12 05:31 PM
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yes. pick something that you like about them, and tell them you find that sexy in them, and continue the conversation. if they smile, they're into you and they'll follow your lead. if they back off a bit, they just wanna be friends, and they'll be cool as long as you don't get weird. this is a simplified version of the juggler method, but it's pretty much all you need right now.
/r/seduction27/07/12 05:29 PM
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definitely get other girls' numbers. other girls will have noticed you getting the first girl's digits, and they'll be easier to open. girls don't expect you to be monogamous after they give you their number. as long as they don't find out you're using the same lines on other chicks, it's cool. do you think she's not talking to any other guys that night? for the few that are insecure enough to get scared off by your being a player, then you did yourself a favor because you don't want that emotio…
/r/seduction27/07/12 05:26 PM
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they really are everywhere, dude. go on okcupid and just browse. all those women are real average women that you see everyday and don't bother talking to. and they all fantasize about meeting a guy randomly because they've seen it 1000 times in movies. check out juggler/charisma arts and start approaching women during the day. you don't need to impress them, just convincing them that you're genuine and not creepy is usually all you need to do.
/r/seduction27/07/12 04:10 PM
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stop hoarding the love
/r/seduction27/07/12 04:01 PM
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that's totally normal, it's because of our puritanical society, which demonizes sex. it seems like a bad thing at first, but it ends up making sex a whole lot more exciting. be greatful for it.
/r/seduction27/07/12 04:01 PM
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every once in a while, focus your attention on your shoulders, and let them drop. you'll often find that your shoulders are tensed up and high close to your ears, which is bad bodylanguage. other than that, do exercises to work on your anterior pelvic tilt, if you have one.
/r/seduction27/07/12 04:00 PM
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