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Good write up. I have some problems with the men’s lib subreddit. Theres kind of an “apologize for existing while male” vibe there, and I find it spineless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:34 PM
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You are so welcome - thank you for sharing that. Can't we condemn misogyny AND misandry? How did feminism stray SO far from egalitarianism and seeking gender equality for all? I appreciate having ladies in this space because if we don't get people to see things from our perspectives and stop vilifying men, I worry we are going to just keep electing shitheads like Donald Trump... many men will just say to hell with the left if they're always demonizing us. Anti male rhetoric is just socially acce…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:25 AM
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Absolutely…. But every victim needs a villain. Rather than seek equality, they cling to this victim mentality. Sad!!!!!!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 02:56 AM
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I’ve always been a liberal feminist. I have more recently been much more drawn to egalitarian perspectives, where I felt classical feminism was in pursuit of gender equality, which I will always support, however we package it. With that said, modern feminism seems to have been heavily influenced by radical feminism (ie, dismantling “the patriarchy”, supporting the Duluth model, assuming that the status quo power inequities still exist) and modern ‘pop’ feminism ( man vs bear, “not all men but al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 07:14 AM
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Thanks for your curiosity! Most people make the assumption that tea/AWDTSG is just protecting women. I did at first too, until I became personally affected and I saw what was really going on. This issue is how I became involved in this subreddit and other men’s advocacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:47 AM
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Thank you. I thought it was really invasive and unhealthy. Unfortunately I ended the relationship over this, which seemed promising at first. I wasn’t comfortable with a partner who could so easily snoop and lie to me. I would have preferred more open, direct and honest communication. The groups / tea are more like someone going through your phone instead of asking you questions and trusting their own intuition regarding your responses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:45 AM
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To address your question, I said sex lives because when I was personally posted by a woman who I was seeing, another woman who I previously went out with on a first date called me gay, because I wasn’t interested in her. People use the groups to share men’s personal health information, STD status, and sometimes information about their genitals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:41 AM
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Most of the posts don’t have to do with cheating. They are ‘tea/red flags’ posts, where a woman posts a man she is actively dating or considering dating and crowdsourcing his exes. All of the people he’s dated can weigh in anonymously and post anything, yes, including intimate details. In theory, outing cheaters seems like a fair / noble goal. In practice, the app and AWDTSG groups are rife with abuse, bullying, oversharing, and pettiness from jaded exes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:38 AM
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It’s nonconsensual sharing of people’s sex lives on the internet, gender exclusionary, and requires users to lie to their partners about using it… problematic to say the least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:17 AM
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YES. I’ve been saying this too. Check out what’s going on in your local ‘AreWeDatingTheSameGuy’ Facebook group. It’s insanely toxic and regressive, not to mention overtly misandrist and deleterious to men’s mental health.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 04:39 PM
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Eh. Yes, I think pre 1960’s, 3+ generations ago, US culture was a pretty clear patriarchy. It’s just that now, we’ve overcorrected and the pendulum has swung just a bit too far the other way, it’s very trendy to blame men and patriarchy for everything rather than simply advocate for equality and egalitarianism. Which is why I mock ‘The Patriarchy’ as a boogeyman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 01:32 PM
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We do not live in a patriarchy. We certainly used to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 05:28 AM
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I’m lampooning the near ubiquitous scapegoating of ‘Patriarchy’ (certainly was a major factor in historical contexts, irrefutably has vestigial impacts on modern society, and yet is anything but what we live with currently).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 05:11 AM
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It’s a good point, sex is monetized just like food is monetized…. Heck even water if you look at some of the gimmicky bottled water concepts. It’s all harmful when you step back and look at it… it’s no more about ‘The Patriarchy😱👹™️” as it is just brutal capitalism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 08:54 PM
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How is this troll not banned yet?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 01:13 AM
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Excellent stuff. Thanks for sharing. We can disagree with some of Reeves’s solutions, but I promise you he is our best representative for men’s issues when it comes to broaching liberal spheres.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/25 01:56 PM
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Absurd viewpoints by the author. Unwarranted reputational damage associated with the Tea app is largely speculative at this point Sure, they're speculative because men are EXCLUDED from the app based solely on their gender identity! However, I was personally slandered by a woman in an "AreWeDatingTheSameGuy" group simply because I politely expressed that I wasn't interested. No comments about safety, just speculation of my sexuality in space I had no recourse to share my side of the story. But w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 05:59 AM
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Wow. Great effort - and in no way am I surprised. In rejecting your app, but allowing Tea, is there some ground for a discrimination suit?
/r/MensRights02/08/25 01:36 AM
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While we're at it, can we PLEASE remember that it isn't just Tea. Meta, via Facebook, allows for "AreWeDatingTheSameGuy" groups, local to every major city in America. They are literally the same thing as Tea, but in Facebook group format. They've been around for years and preceded Tea, but get less attention as they are regional rather than national. Apple, Meta, and Google Play are allowing for what is essentially mass surveillance through these apps and pages. Everyone looks the other way beca…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 04:28 AM
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While we're at it, can we PLEASE remember that it isn't just Tea. Meta, via Facebook, allows for "AreWeDatingTheSameGuy" groups, local to every major city in America. They are literally the same thing as Tea, but in Facebook group format. They've been around for years and preceded Tea, but get less attention as they are regional rather than national. Apple, Meta, and Google Play are allowing for what is essentially mass surveillance through these apps and pages. Everyone looks the other way beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 04:26 AM
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You are wrong. You are so. So. Wrong. Come see us r/AWDTSGistoxic
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:55 AM
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Lost a relationship. She posted me in AWDTSG for tea/red flags… just trying to dig up dirt (there was none). I felt super weird about it. She lied to me. So convincingly. Told me it wasn’t her… then a woman friend got in the group and found out it was her… had to break it off. I don’t trust liars and neither should you. Tea app / AWDTSG users are not dating material. Pump and dump at best. Sorry to be harsh, but they’re not empathetic people.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:54 AM
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We're been beating this drum for >2 years at r/AWDTSGisToxic .... its about GD time y'all took notice. Not here to be a dick, just glad it's FINALLY getting your attention. This shit is dystopian... this is how we use social media now? Creating sexist groups to spy on each other? Yelp reviews of your love life.... but only for women to consume. If men did it, it would be super wrong. Guys who aren't even dating can get posted, just if a woman is curious. Cute guy at the gym? Hottie on Insta? Pos…
/r/MensRights25/07/25 12:15 AM
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Big Brother, meet Big Karen Aka Iced Coffee Illuminati Aka Cyberstalking Succubi Miserable crowd
/r/MensRights12/07/25 10:33 PM
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Guilt by association... It’s absurd. Men cannot seek community or advocacy - for any reason - without it being demonized. Even becoming aware of this is stigmatized - you’re ’red-pilled’!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 03:05 PM
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Men’s spaces… you mean… “THE MAN-O-SPHERE™️??” 😱🧛🔪
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 06:18 AM
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Right. As does maher. The puritanical left is destroying hope for rational liberals to hold power in the US. It’s like a thought-virus; you must ascribe to the ‘One True Opinion’ or you will be cancelled. It’s absurd.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 05:39 PM
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They want a leftist Joe Rogan? Well… we got him in Bill Maher. Loved this segment!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 04:36 PM
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Fair enough. I do think it’s worth exploring why it’s acceptable to talk about male privilege and simultaneously, why a list like this makes many feel uncomfortable. But I fully agree this should have been expressed …differently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 04:55 PM
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Precisely. So many of those points are directly in response to male privilege talking points. I think it’s a good way of looking at the other side of the equation. For every woman who is scared on a sidewalk and expects a man to cross to the other side (we commonly acknowledge this) is a man who is hurt that he’s viewed as inherently dangerous. True that it could have been communicated better, but I don’t really see this as bad faith, more illustrating a ‘both sides’ viewpoint of classic male pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 04:35 PM
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I see that as the point though… men and women are two wings of the same bird. If all we do is vilify each other, does that help anyone? I think it’s good to stay aware and empathetic… there ARE many male privileges… and OPs list is mostly showing the other side of the coin because the advantages and disadvantages of men and women are directly linked.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 03:30 PM
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Society doesn’t want to hear men’s feelings. They don’t want men to have spaces to air out those feelings (manosphere!). I first encountered this when I was hurt over being posted on ‘AreWeDatingTheSameGuy’. People, especially women but many men also, told me how I should feel, and that I should recognize that women’s safety is more important than my feelings. Message received. What happened to validation…? And people wonder why toxic masculinity (extreme stoicism) exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 04:41 AM
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I fully agree. I studied some sociology in undergrad, and feminism was framed as an egalitarian movement. I am fully onboard with equality of opportunity and good faith attempts of, at minimum, drawing attention to equality of outcomes. I do not think modern mainstream feminism is effective at addressing either. If men are the ‘cause’ of so many issues facing women, wouldn’t it stand to reason that a society with healthy men would be beneficial to women? We are two wings of the same bird… I’d lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/25 04:17 AM
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All valid points and all of those are despicable. I think at THIS point in history, with as many trans rights issues we have, as many men’s health and civil issues, and last but OBVIOUSLY not least, the remaining women’s equality issues, WHY would we not want to unite for a true, egalitarian, gender equity movement? It would have broader appeal, more support, and it would be rooted in the noble, altruistic cause of lifting each other up… If I may shamelessly answer my own question, it’s because …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/25 08:32 PM
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You either support gender equality or you don’t. Misandry (and misogyny) are anti-equality and deserve to be called out. The trouble is, most of our leftist friends are completely blind to misandry. And I 100% agree, once you see it, you will never really be the same. Equality for all genders… except cisgender, heterosexual males.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 10:21 PM
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Call their viewpoints ‘bigoted’. It’s the most appropriate term to use, it’s 100% valid, and they lose their minds when confronted with the harsh reality that they have allowed themselves to become bigots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 10:18 PM
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I was called an ‘incel’ for speaking out against ‘AreWeDatingTheSameGuy’… I was accused to dating too many women…. but I’m an involuntary celibate??? 🤔 It’s just a slur at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 04:24 PM
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The fact that ‘incel’ is not considered a slur tells you everything you need to know. A gender-based insult denigrating someone’s sexual prowess, yet people act like it’s some sort of academic term. It’s hate speech. It’s just that it’s socially acceptable to hate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 05:05 AM
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You really can’t, which is what makes it so harmful. Women can post guys Facebook profile pictures, even if the man isn’t actively dating, just to see what his relationship and sexual history are. It’s all posted in the comments section, so it’s essentially public information at that point. Dystopian. One guy got posted bc a woman saw his insta and thought he was cute… he was married and his wife saw it, thought he was cheating even though he wasn’t doing anything other than existing. They’ll or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 10:54 PM
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Check out what they’re doing in ‘AreWeDatingTheSameGuy’ Facebook groups and the ‘tea’ app. It’s bad, and Meta, the Apple App Store, and Google play are allowing it. It’s the single issue that made me look seriously at men’s rights content. Come see us on r/awdtsgistoxic… you’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 02:19 AM
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I would agree. Most right wing ideologies stem from a fear-based mindset. Misandrist feminism is no different, it’s the ‘other-ing’ of a group based on gender identity. It should be called what it is - a hate group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 06:50 PM
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How? The only one who had the balls to admit trans women are probably not great candidates to participate in women’s sports.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 01:38 PM
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Gavin Newsom
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 04:00 AM
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Man, I was about to write this post. How is defining someone by their gender identity and sexual prowess (or lack thereof) NOT a slur? And the ease with which the word is thrown around speaks volumes about society’s attitudes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/25 02:17 AM
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Count how many times you see this EXACT phrase in media: “the likes of Andrew Tate”. Ok, who, exactly is that, then? Other than Andrew Tate (who is obviously a complete piece of shit). It’s just become a repetitive talking point, and at this point, it’s intellectually lazy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/25 09:01 PM
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See, personally, i saw that scene differently. No offense, but I feel like your interpretation of it is overly simplistic. I think the therapist was trying to bait him into saying ‘yes, I asked her out then because she felt badly about herself’… which he did admit to, but it seemed more nuanced. I saw it as she was trying to paint that narrative of him as a manipulator, but in the end, he was so pathetically low in self esteem that she felt horrible for him and ended up empathizing with how he w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 08:46 PM
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I think you all are being way too harsh on this show. Most of the ahow seemed incredibly empathetic toward the boy and the circumstances that contributed to his crime. Also, looking at society as a whole that led up to it. To me, it seemed like they were saying ‘it takes a village’ and that the village is utterly failing boys. The 3rd episode with the female therapist who was incredibly flirty and manipulative to get him to confess… then I felt to see her wracked with guilt at the end was so tra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 07:25 PM
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Wait for what? Wait to agree? I’ll never vote trump/Vance, this despite him being right on this one particular thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 04:08 PM
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I can disagree vehemently with 99.998% of his policies, actions, and motivations, and he can still be absolutely correct .002% of the time. Why disagree on that part?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 12:13 PM
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Democrats need to learn from this - last year. Yes, a broken clock can be right twice a day. This is one of those cases. I hate the Trump administration more than I hated their campaign, but god damn if they didn't do a great job making space for men whereas democrats treated us like scum on their shoe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 06:18 AM
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there was literally not one comment I could find withy any semblance of curiosity, open mindedness, or empathy. Eventually I found a post by a guy, who was predictably torn to shreds. And people wonder why 'toxic masculinity' exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/25 10:04 PM
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Am I understanding you to be saying essentially: men being equal is a threat to women’s protected victimhood status?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/25 04:01 AM
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I was having trouble linking the Facebook post. NPR Facebook like to men’s health article
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/25 01:10 AM
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Thanks for that write up, I’ve been wondering what the statistics are. I hear that talking point ao often, that “women are ignored in medical research”. I have an inkling that may have been true, perhaps circa 1950-1975 however I as an allied health professional, it’s never been my observation in ANY modern research that I’ve come across. Thanks for the reply
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 02:49 PM
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They are the reason we have trump in the US. The anti male normalization on the left has allowed the right to provide a place for men to at least feel like they’re heard. They are the reason toxic masculinity exists. Because why be emotionally vulnerable when statistics about your actual life and mortality are mocked brazenly - and it’s mainstream to do so?? Toxic masculinity starts with the empathy gap. I wish these ladies would stop and listen to themselves, consider their roles in perpetuatin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 02:39 PM
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Darn. I’m not sure how to share it. It’s a good article, but the insane backlash is more what I wanted to highlight. npr Facebook
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 05:00 AM
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…so she’s being charged with hate crimes, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 06:17 AM
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I can tell your heart is in the right place. I think you’re off base by invoking ‘misogyny’. It sounds like you meant to say that men are hurt by traditional gender roles, societal expectations, and/or excessive stoicism vs. misogyny. As a guy, it feels like society has spent 60 years revamping and reflecting on what women can be, should be, and want to be, but then we’re expected to act like it’s 1955 when it comes to making money and yet fit into 2025’s social structure of gender roles. There’…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 06:14 AM
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Pro male = anti female (to many in feminist circles). It really is a zero sum game with black and white thinking to those that view themselves as victims and see the ‘other’ as the villian; the perpetrators, subjugators, oppressors… all the dramatic language. In reality we’re just human beings that happened to be born male and we want life to suck for us less. The irony is that if their goal were truly equality, they should want to see men help lift each other up and rise so that we can be bette…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/25 04:34 PM
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…and if we dare organize on the internet, it’s the mysoginistic, toxic ‘manosphere’.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/25 04:23 PM
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Mexico, I repeat, MEXICO elected a woman President. You know, the country full of those Latino men that the American left is vilifying? So no, I don’t think it was misogyny that cost Harris the election. Rather, it was gross ineptitude of the DNC to read the room and take a proper pulse of what swing voters were seeking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/24 06:33 PM
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Disgusting. I am so disappointed about this. I’ve not heard any actual person saying “your body my choice” except for that little douchebag Fuentes who seems to be doing it as rage bait, however the sentiment must exist somewhere. But this is why it’s such a shame trump won the election. Now instead of women finally getting a woman President, and possibly not feeling like they’re victims of patriarchy, they go and elect a guy that creates more division and hatred, and allows women to feel justif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 03:51 PM
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Couldn’t they just get together and have a ‘Kill Bill’ watch party to burn off some steam instead of making credible murder threats…
/r/MensRights11/11/24 12:52 AM
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If ‘incels’ were a terrorist group, and MGTOW was such a repulsive idea that it needed to be banned from Reddit, what can we expect society to do to 4B RadFem poisoners? Oh, right… nothing.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 12:30 AM
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Intersectional feminists ... just enough victimhood to claim virtue, just enough privilege to cast stones at another group for not being 'woke' enough when it's convenient. I'm so sick of the constant labelling that intersectionality leads to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 02:38 AM
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This right here. Kamala didn't even need to talk about identity politics for it to be relevant, she IS identity politics. Lost the primary 2020, was tacked onto the Biden ticket for... identity politics reasons. Subverted a 2024 primary due to factors outside her control, but again as thrust into candidacy as... a 'woman of color' candidate. Great. I wanted the best person to run; if it was her - so be it! But... it sure felt like a competitive primary should have been waged to forge the best op…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 02:32 AM
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I agree it was disappointing, but what was he supposed to do? He wasn't going to get the D nomination, so his only play would have been to run as independent and effectively hand the election to Trump. They forced his hand and as a true patriot, he took the course that he thought would be best for the country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 04:48 AM
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Yes, and you have Debbie VVasserman-Schutlz, 'Her Turn' Hillary, and the DNC to thank for that. I'll never forgive the DNC for what they did to Bernie's momentum in 2016. It felt organic, natural, and inevitable... until it wasn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:16 AM
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Any other group and it’s hate speech / slur
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 12:30 AM
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Yes. We must only think in broad, sweeping generalizations. Signed, Idiots
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 03:46 PM
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…and try using the phrase “not all men” in feminist spaces. Holy shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 08:51 PM
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Please spread the word on this … to men and women alike. The admins of the groups absolutely hate being exposed for what they’re doing. They operate in secrecy and when this topic gets media coverage, let’s just say it becomes obvious that they are not proud of what they’re doing. This affects any man, whether he’s dating or not, your photo, location, and name can be posted and your personal details can be anonymously speculated about, shared … or completely fabricated. All of that information, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 08:39 PM
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Ok. But we need more male teachers (74% female) and male doctors (55% US and 65% UK female MD grads). You can hate the acronyms all you want, but they represent systemic inequities that disadvantage men when efforts are being made to boost women (which is great, btw) but no efforts are made to boost men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/24 04:25 PM
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‘The patriarchy’ strikes again !
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 11:22 PM
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Yeah but this is consumers doing it! Just the general public shaming whatever $15/hr fast food worker who’s is slinging their burritos. The end of decency.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 06:45 AM
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Absolutely. I was just reading that customers at chipotle are now recording video of their chipotle employees to make sure they don’t get ‘skimped’ on their portions. They will then shame-post the employees on TikTok if they feel the employee didn’t give them enough chicken. Absurd and Orwellian.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 06:00 AM
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At first glance, my only issue with it pertains to 'The Manosphere'... where is this 'Manosphere' I keep hearing about?? Am I in the right place? Spend any time in the manosphere, and it’s easy to start to hate men and boys. The extreme misogyny, the gleeful hate speech, the violent threats and thrum of menace make it hard to summon much sympathy for male concerns, and easy to forget the ways that patriarchy harms them, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 04:10 PM
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About damn time. So thankful that this was written!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 01:47 PM
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I just finished reading ‘morning after the revolution’ by Nellie Bowles - excellent read btw. She discusses how the left is organizing speaking order in public discussions quite literally in rank of how ‘oppressed’ someone would be. So, a trans personal of color would be ranked highest in the ‘stack’, and allowed to speak first, followed by someone less marginalized, followed by white people, and then men last. Certainly cis white men last. So, this is the new social order. And now, the author e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 03:33 PM
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Can we still feel them to the bears tho?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 12:06 AM
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It's almost like someone decided it was okay to talk about my love life on the internet with personal identifying information including name and photos 😂 Anyway, thanks for saying, felt good to air that!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 06:03 PM
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Sad when they will only listen to this perspective when it's from a trans person. But these people are going to be VERY important voices in the future.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 06:51 AM
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"AreWeDatingTheSameGuy". So they can date as many men simultaneously as they want, but I have to go ALL IN on one, while I'm trying to find the right partner who I have the best connection with? All while being surveilled and having my love life openly discussed on social media? No. Sorry, fuck that.
/r/MensRights05/05/24 06:48 AM
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I support this idea! Well-said. We need a men's movement, focused on that collaboration, community, and self-improvement. What's discouraging is how it feels that any time men try to get together and do something positive collectively, it's demonized, i.e. this sub being part of "The Manosphere".
/r/MensRights05/05/24 06:12 AM
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“The allegations in this case are among the most disturbing ones that I have seen. It is hard to wrap my brain around the fact that this occurred in the Juvenile Detention Facility, and charged defendant is allegedly responsible for this illegal behavior,” Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said in a statement. This is troubling... leads me to wonder what the hell she was doing to them?
/r/MensRights05/05/24 06:07 AM
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I seriously think there is a psyop going on. A battle against Judeo-Christian values on multiple fronts, and men's sovereignty. If you've read about "arewedatingthesameguy", there is a ringleader named "Paola Sanchez" who's never been publicly seen or spoken. I am actually starting to think that this is a Russian / Chinese / Iranian psyop to plummet American birthrates. Chinese communist party that owns tiktok is where all this "bear > man" bullshit started.
/r/MensRights05/05/24 06:02 AM
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I agree with this... if you need some inspiration to take a break from the internet, read "Digital Minimalism", by Cal Newport.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 04:05 AM
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THIS! It’s so fucking obvious. The account that started this is called ‘Screenshot HQ’…. Very sus, wondering if they’re even behind ‘AreWeDatingTheSameGuy’ bullshit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 12:29 AM
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Wait, try this one! https://youtu.be/X0AHvPpGrDU
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 07:13 PM
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Volume up! https://youtu.be/alR7NLDyPig?si=sIG6Ih-JTSs6f2fp
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 07:09 PM
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No worries homie. Way to be humble. Stay curious young brother! :-D
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 01:37 PM
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Zero people complained, which is my point. Not every space needs to have equality constantly crammed down its throat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 01:34 PM
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Ask them to watch the bear scene from The Revenant and then Backcountry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 04:53 AM
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*Palestinian man, for all those protesters
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 02:04 AM
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I’ve had similar thoughts. There is a big quilting festival in my area and I’ve noticed men are “underrepresented”. Can’t we just admit we’re a bit different and allow each other some grace and space?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 12:40 AM
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I have a non binary friend who identifies as they, born female, and masculine presenting. They regularly hang out with the guys in my social dance community and I’m always really appreciative of their perspectives on being seen as male. I agree that people of this persuasion can be excellent allies. We need to keep hammering home the point that being anti-male is not feminist, and it’s definitely anti-trans. Wasn’t there a book written by a woman who went ‘undercover’ as a male and highlighted h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 06:02 PM
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Thanks for your insights. I seem to notice that in western society, where more anti male sentiments are becoming common, it seems that we have higher amounts of trans women. And that may just simply be due to being in a more liberal and (generally) accepting society, whereby the incidence per capita of trans people may actually the same, but more people can be openly gender-affirmed vs. more conservative societies. I’ve simply wondered if - for some - it’s easier to live as a celebrated, empower…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/24 08:42 PM
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Honest Q for the trans women ** edited - my bad. How much did anti male sentiment , gynocentrism, and misandry in our culture contribute to your decision to lop off your member and sack? Not at trying to be rude I’ve just often wondered this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/24 07:24 PM
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If we had a sane person like Romney or McCain running for President in the US, id absofuckinglutely be voting Republican for the first time in my life.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 06:10 AM
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Right. And so much is made of men needing to ‘lift ourselves up’, ‘men need to find their own solutions’ and then when we start * actually * coming together, it’s gotta be a boogeyman term like ‘manosphere’ to describe it.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 06:06 AM
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Tinder’s appaears to be unchanged, fwiw. But do not give bumble your money. Ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 03:50 PM
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Not at all. He said there are differences in chronological neurodevelopment. That’s biologically true. However, I disagree with his solution of starting boys a year later.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 01:28 PM
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I totally agree with you. His is a respectful, wise, and welcoming voice in this discussion. I don't think we need to agree with all of his solutions for him to provide tremendous value. Reeves's appearance on Bill Maher was what opened my eyes to the legitimacy of the growing men's rights movement. He has the cache to welcome many others like me into this space. He calls himself an 'ardent feminist' because he HAS to; if he didn't, he would immediately alienate himself from many on the left. An…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 11:12 PM
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I mean, just being honest I like both as flag bearers for leftist male advocacy. I don’t agree with all of reeves’ solutions, but he argues for equality in a way that I think is effective, disarming, and non-threatening for feminists. To me, that’s the most important thing, otherwise you get people calling it an ‘incel’ movement from ‘the manosphere’. It’s gotta come from people with a good track record of working from equality or it all gets dismissed from the mainstream.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 08:57 PM
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no idea. If you're going to downvote, at least have the courage to write a different take.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 01:41 PM
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Do you agree Reeves is bad? I can understand taking exception with some of his solutions, but what's the beef with Reeves?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 02:28 AM
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Well-said!
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:13 AM
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We need 50 state abortion access for women and 50 state PAPER abortions for men. You want the baby, YOU pay. No more child support unless it's consensual. That's what freedom and equality look like.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 04:34 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. They claim to hate patriarchy and toxic masculinity... while COMPLETELY oblivious to the ways in which they are reinforcing and rewarding it with their behavior. Essentially we are left confused as we are told to be kind, patient, honest people, yet we're rewarded when we act more like shallow players. This will be denied, but we all know it's often (but not always) true. Even having a space to TRY to discuss healthy masculinity is scoffed at as 'the man-o-sphere' f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 01:36 AM
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OP hit the nail on the head. Ask all those striking workers at UAW last year (mostly men) if they were feeling privilege. There are CERTAINLY residual vestiges of patriarchy remaining in society, those last bastions are benefitting only the MOST privileged men, (CEOs, Presidents, old-money types) but the swingback of the feminism pendulum has hurt most other men while we no longer benefit from those old patriarchal structures. And it's socially taboo to be a 'MRA', despite growing undercurrents …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:58 AM
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Straight vigilanteism, and no one cares because the only victims are males. You know, the second-class citizens. Although the plaintiffs in these cases seem... a little sketch, I am just really glad this issue is finally getting visibility via the lawsuits. This has produced a toxic dating culture. I can't imagine being a young man right now, trying to learn, respect women, and get it right without stepping on a landmine and getting doxxed for a mistake or some misinterpreted behavior. This issu…
/r/MensRights22/03/24 04:16 AM
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Only send texts that you would be comfortable sharing on the internet. Phone for anything else. It's a sad state of affairs. Ladies want us to be open, vulnerable, trusting with them, then blatantly violate that trust. Sick shit.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 04:07 AM
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This is why you have mass shootings. Blame the guns, blame 'mental health', but when you have a chance to stand up and build something positive, all you want to do is tear others down. Shameful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/24 10:24 PM
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But I think some of his ideas reek of sexism, and will be counter-productive. He interprets boy's academic difficulties as having to do with boys developing slower than girls, without acknowledging the well-evidenced institutional bias against boys in our education systems. I did read the book, and while it's true that he cites biological development as one aspect of boys developing slower than girls, he ABSOLUTELY acknowledges the institutional bias against boys in the education system. In fact…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/02/24 10:08 PM
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I too find feminism ‘stodgy’ and outdated. It feels like 1970’s solutions to 2024 problems. Really irrelevant and behind the times. There was totally a patriarchy in 1950. Which made feminism super needed in 60’s and 70’s. But… fast forward 3/4 of a century later?? We DO need a gender equality movement. We do need to have real awareness and conversations around issues facing women and men collectively. We don’t need ‘feminism’.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/24 05:31 PM
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Most of us would help. I think (hope) this thread is sort of a thought experiment in reaction to some women making the argument that 'women don't owe men anything'.
/r/MensRights21/01/24 07:28 AM
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Im with you. I'm not gonna lay my life on the line against someone with a gun, but if I may be useful in the service of good, to the benefit of women or men, so be it.
/r/MensRights21/01/24 07:24 AM
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Maybe if more guys were thriving, and therefore appealing to you, you wouldn't all be so worried about DatingTheSameGuy 🤔
/r/MensRights19/01/24 07:30 PM
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Boys and men are taught to be stoic and avoid their emotions. Boys and men are taught to be self-sufficient, and to not rely on others, leading to self-isolating behaviour. Boys and men are taught to be competitive vs. collaborative with each other, leading to more isolation. We may feel comfortable being vulnerable in front of a trusted woman, but not others, leading to some of the emotional dependence you describe. ​ And we wonder why in the US 78% of suicides are men, 97% of mass shooters are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 06:40 PM
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Her article is disgusting, but I don't want to connect it with femininity, just like I don't want to connect the toxic behaviour of some men with masculinity. These are bad human qualities, and it is in our interest not to add any toxic traits to the notions of masculinity and femininity. Here's the thing though. There are tacos in general (and there is femininity) and there are *shrimp* tacos (and there is *good* femininity) and then there are *chicken* tacos (and there is *toxic* femininity). …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/23 05:09 AM
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Very well said, and I know that you are FAR from alone in those sentiments! My advice is: care less. You are clearly not someone with out-of-line viewpoints. I am going to generalize for a moment: women have so many wonderful gifts, but just like SOME iterations of masculinity can be toxic, so too can toxic femininity exist. One such example is that disgusting opinion article you shared. Imagine hating half of humanity just because they were born male (outside of their control) - that’s worse th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/23 03:51 AM
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I know I sound like a broken record, but seriously… if you don’t think that this is what’s going on with AreWeDatingThe SameGuy, you’re living under a rock. Women are allowed to have a roster, but if a man does, he’s being publicly shamed. It’s insanity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 04:07 PM
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godspeed, friends!
/r/MensRights09/11/23 02:31 PM
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Please join r/AWDTSGisToxic Any man that is on dating apps is being doxed - by shitty women - in front of thousands of local people in his area. The word needs to be spread, and this bullshit needs to stop. I completely gave up dating apps and I'd never use them in this climate. I get why an AI woman would be appealing with all this shit going on!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/23 02:32 AM
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Not clueless at all, friend. I think what you say will resonate with many here. No one is going to feel good about having their feelings invalidated, no matter what gender, race, religion, culture, ect. What your ladies essentially told you is the 2023 version of: "Shut up woman, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich." Wasn't OK to treat women like that then, not OK to treat men like that now. At the risk of offering an overly simplistic solution, could it maybe help them hear your conc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/23 04:14 PM
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The woman could just as easily become artificially inseminated. That’s her right to choose. The man could choose financial involvement, or not. He gets to choose as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 05:59 AM
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Ok. Thank for for posting… This is an opportunity for me to make a point that I think is critical for paternal rights. We, as men’s rights advocates, need to vehemently support women’s right to choose. I believe that this is not only the right thing to do for a woman’s perspective, but also for a man’s perspective. In the scenario you described, the father does not choose parenthood. The woman does choose parenthood. In this case, I believe that before six months of pregnancy - when a woman is e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 03:25 AM
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Well said! This may be an unpopular take, but I think we need to align with liberal feminists. The stated goal of feminism is equality. I think we should hold them to that, and I observe that most true feminists agree that in several quantifiable, real ways, men and boys are lagging and would benefit from social interventions to bring about equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 01:36 PM
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I think that’s a totally fair question. My first reaction is amazement that people think it’s okay to do this to men. Although most of the many rad lady friends in my life are appalled by these groups, some of them nevertheless lurk in AWDTSG groups, and I’ve even had one good girlfriend who can’t come to see that these groups are really not about safety. It’s been very tough on that friendship. So, that’s incredibly frustrating to feel as violated as I do, (I’m a healthcare professional with a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/23 11:29 PM
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That's fair, man. I do think that there are instances where we can challenge ourselves to be even better though, and continuous, collective improvement is always something we can strive for, while simultaneously giving our issues more credibility.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 05:24 PM
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That is my entire point. We need to be organized and be those examples... and organizing starts with building each other up and stopping tearing each other down. Speaking of that, thanks for the downvote though
/r/MensRights29/09/23 06:41 AM
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I don't disagree. It comes down to... we need better leaders. Better exemplars. Better role models. We can be masculine, strong, male, and good. I think we need to start forming groups with the intent of sharing how to be good examples of masculinity, and start re-writing these bullshit narratives that men=bad.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 05:27 AM
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No one’s being stabbed in the back. My point is, it’s not a zero sum game. Feminists and right wingers act like it is, and as long as right wingers exist, feminists are going to be ‘anti’. We need to move past that zero sum mentality. True feminists who seek equality will actually be more on our side when the old school, anti abortion right wing clowns finally die off. And, I live in America, so… no thanks, kindly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 02:05 AM
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No privacy for males, you say? Just wait till you see what they're allowed to post on "AreWeDatingTheSameGuy"...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 07:24 PM
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I disagree. I think they’re the just the only ones who have been brave enough to speak up, and they’re doing it because it’s their only option to keep political support by upholding the status quo. The vast majority of republicans are male and they are baiting you to stay. Until recently - academics are now starting to recognize the struggles of modern males and publishing books about it. Democrats need to ditch 1980’s style feminism and get with the times, or they’re fucked, politically, and wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 02:30 PM
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Also check out "Of Boys and Men" by Richard Reeves. Both are excellent reads with great ideas that I think would jive with this community.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 01:17 PM
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GREAT post. The way I look at things is this... our gender equity issues are all living in the past. The 'men's rights', right-wing is TWO steps behind, living in 1950. The feminist, left-wing is ONE step behind, living circa 1980. And the reason the left wing is a step behind is because of the existence and the stubbornness of the right-wing. They are an anchor limiting our progress to where we NEED to be, in a post-feminist world of 2023 where women are outpacing men in college graduation almo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 01:02 PM
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Please read “Men on strike” by Dr. Helen Smith! She talks about ‘white knights’ who tend to be Republican, and end up going against men’s advocacy, as well as ‘uncle Tims’ who tend to be democrats, who passively do the same under the blanket of trying to be an ally to feminism. She gives a great synopsis of some of the biggest issues facing men, and the political opponents to true equality and men’s issues advocacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 11:55 AM
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And 9 months later, he was forced by a court to pay child support. Different case, but actually happened: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/
/r/MensRights25/09/23 02:52 AM
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