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Men obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:32 PM
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Cause our effect? Do married men earn more because they are married or do high earners get married more?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 11:12 PM
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I'm not going to link to 10 different studies. The statistical evidence from the Scottish IQ tests showing that male intelligence is significantly more variable than female intelligence is exactly what former Harvard President Larry Summers was referring to when he said: It does appear that on many, many different human attributes—height, weight, propensity for criminality, overall IQ, mathematical ability, scientific ability—there is relatively clear evidence that whatever the difference in mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:20 PM
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Height, iq, personality, weight, hobbies. Literally every measurable metric
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 04:17 PM
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👌
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 02:34 PM
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You're drift seems to be making assumptions about people's intentions instead of actually listening to them. Not really a logical way to debate. I said less varied but since you think you caught some vibe from me, you think I'm saying there's zero variation even after I specifically correct you on that misconception? So basically it's pointless to talk to you because no matter what I say you're just going to assume I mean what you think i meant anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:46 PM
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I never said women were a monolith. I said they were less varied than men. Do you understand the difference between less varied and zero variation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:43 PM
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Its not a belief its a fact that women are less varied than men. If you believe otherwise than you're the one choosing to make things up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 10:39 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:45 PM
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Directly determined maybe not but a factor sure quite possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:41 PM
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In a pedestal usually refers to having a higher opinion of them than they justify with their actions. Objectification doesn't elevate you above your station if anything it does the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:16 PM
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Women are far less varied than men by every single measurable metric. If either awalt or amalt is true statistically speaking awalt is much more likely to be true due to the relative lack of variation in women compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:14 PM
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Men and women are part of the same species but are also a different gender. Youre taking things that males typically do and saying they are "human" when they could be naturally unique to human males. For example, having a period is a human thing. Men can't do it naturally but that doesn't mean it's not human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:13 PM
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I am though. You aren't. My body is just a shell for my personality. I've already explained why this is wrong. Who I am is my personality, my thoughts etc. If these changed they’d change who I am but if my body changed it would only change what I look like. No. Neither would change who you are. You'd just be x person who's more jaded or x person who is happier. A change in your person doesn't alter who you are genetically or logically. It’s not my life is influenced by my upbringing, world views…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:04 PM
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You are your personality. You can't just be a personality. Your body is just there. Your life is heavily influenced by your body, it's shape and natural strengths and weaknesses. I can separate my personality from my body. No you can't though. My body is just a shell for me personality. I've already explained you cannot exist without your body. Don't repeat defeated arguments. If I had a completely different personality with the same body I would lose what made me “me” despite being in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 05:28 PM
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The only real part of who you are is your personality. Everything else is superficial. Completely false. You are your personality AND your body. You can't separate your personality from your body. You can't exist as a personality floating in ether. Youth is not immutable, neither is fertility. They are things you naturally have. Men don’t just like vagina they like access to the bodies of pretty and young women. And they will stay after they stop being pretty and young Both things that women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 05:00 PM
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Your sexuality is immutable it is part of who you are money is not part of who men are. Unless your vagina falls off men will still love you. For men it's much more likely they lose the thing that attracts women to him (money) because money isn't intrinsic like you're body parts are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:29 PM
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Definitely. Not saying it's good or anything but there are arguable reasons to hate sluts for Spreading stds. Single motherhood draining taxpayer money on welfare Rewarding shitty men with sex thus incentivizing shitty behavior. Increased likelihood to cheat and divorce. You'd have to explain to me in what way they aren't hate able
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:59 PM
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Which men do for sluts statistically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:42 PM
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When was the last time you measured your mouth? You're talking nonsense. Even if it did enlarge your mouth you wouldn't know. And you're painting this like I'm saying you could go from tight to cavernous. No. You'd just be slightly less tight. Yes babies are larger than dicks. Congrats on your knowledge. This is why i specified it would have to be sex with an abnormally large member, dry sex or group sex to cause the tearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:41 PM
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If you have such violent sex that your vagina require stitches, well, I do think that's a problem. I litterally never heard of it happening, though. You're misunderstanding me. The whole point is the tears are so small they wouldn't do stitches especially in the vaginal area which has its own challenges. The point was that several small tears can compound over time Even regular vaginal tears are quite rare, especially if you use lube (like you should, dry sex isnt good). Yeah i said they weren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:29 PM
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It would make more sense actually imo. Hating someone for a choice they made makes more suffer than for something they didn't choose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:26 PM
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Minorities don't choose to be born with melanin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:12 PM
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Is it that the penis is small or is it big vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:05 PM
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Sex with large members or group sex or even dry sex can cause tears in the vagina. When your skin tears it does not close back up completely. This is why stitches are needed to hold the skin together because without stitches the skin won't retain its original shape. Vaginal tears can and DO happen. I'm not saying it's common or that it is the definitive reason for loose vagina but it CAN happen. Vaginas are subject to biology like any other part of the body it's very silly to suggest they are im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:04 PM
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Effort for women has a lot to do with makeup. Are you suggesting men paint over their flaws and call it self improvement as women do? I think we should be asking why women choose to cover up their flaws instead of actually self improving. Its hilarious to say men don't put as much effort into improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:08 PM
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Yeah that's peak retarded. "Ew your bald shouldhave tried harder" lmfao. There's a fallacy I'm not remembering what it's called where you think all of your positive qualities are a result of your effort and therefore anyone who has less positive qualities must not have put in the effort. Women live in this fallacy. It's literally their bread and butter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:05 PM
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Cooking cleaning sewing organization nursing empathy nurturing the list goes on and on and on. Superior and inferior are also complimentary terms. False. You cannot be superior without having an inferior below you. Sure, but that's not what complimentary means. Men were usually granted authority over their female relations for much of history (painting with a broad brush)— having authority over someone is a position of superiority over them, by definition. Kind of. But the wife was deferred to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:01 PM
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Men did
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:17 PM
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Dude you aren’t entitled to date anyone. Nobody said anything about entitlement. I’m not going to date some guy I don’t like. That's your choice and therefore your fault. My bf is far from perfect but I love him all the same. K Just whining that women have standards (wait, don’t men have standards?) cause I see lots of you commenting about obese women being ugly or stupid shit like that. Not me. Nobody is going to date someone they dislike and it’s not their fault. Yes it is. Who decides what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:07 PM
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I'm not complaining about your standards though I'm literally just saying your standards are within only your control. I don't understand why thats outrageous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:28 PM
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Yes it is your fault. Those are your standards. Since you have those standards you won't be with him. Your standards are not within his control. So it is your fault. Your standards are within your control, not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:22 PM
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I just don't agree. It's just doing something you'd do elsewhere just in your house. Dancing in a way sexy way isn't humorous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:12 PM
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You've already been corrected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:14 PM
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Isn't that subjective to you yourself? And what you want? Aka your choice? Your preference. Nobody else's preference or choice but yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:13 PM
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This is obviously subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:05 PM
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Saint 69 dude! (Air guitars)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:50 PM
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1 in 10 more? Yeah pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:49 PM
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Their own standards. If women don't want to date you, its your fault? No. They make their choices. How can their choice be your fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:48 PM
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For the good of all women everywhere since they all want tall. Kudos. Very selfless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:47 PM
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Yes womens choices are men's fault. No accountability. Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:36 PM
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Then they are but basic by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:36 PM
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Foolish. This is like saying "don't worry if others are starving, mind your business"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:35 PM
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There should be no in group preference at all. No team x. We should judge everyone as individuals not behave as a monolith like women. Why is it men should have to become a hivemind instead of women changing their bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:34 PM
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By definitions imperfections are subjective but in the case of settling obviously they have to be imperfect to you. Nobody lives up to another's standards 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:32 PM
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Well that doesn't matter since women are leagues and bounds more obese. There's more overweight men. There's more obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:30 PM
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I'd argue accepting any imperfections is settling per the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:24 PM
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Actually it's dropped further when you consider loyalty and modesty are things men desire. Not to mention they are much more obese than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:04 PM
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Not likely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:52 PM
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Settling is inevitable. Nobody is perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:48 PM
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So if they have both gone down quality wise why haven't women adjusted their standards accordingly as men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:46 PM
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The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:42 PM
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False. Women were considered better at many things than men were. Men were considered better at other things. They were complimentary. Neither was blanket inferior or superior at everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:41 PM
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To women maintaining her looks means slapping on make up and patting herself on the back for back for making herself prettier
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:25 PM
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Yet the same can be said of women no? Women aren't unchanged since the 50s. If you want those high earning red pilled high t men, maybe you should be a quiet skinny agreeable house wife. But no. They are getting fatter just like men and they are becoming more masculine just as men are becoming more feminine but they still try and demand 50s skinny housewife deserving men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:19 PM
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That's... not how genetics work. Even if all short men stopped breeding today, we'd still have all the short chicks to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:15 PM
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False. Men didn't feel superior just different
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 02:37 PM
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How is it???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 02:25 PM
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Good God that would be paradise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:53 PM
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Yeah it almost got me as well I can't really blame you I was like damn. Can't believe guys think this way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:43 PM
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If it was by men for men it would be a man writing the article wouldn't it? According to Wikipedia one of the two owners/founders was a woman as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:40 PM
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By normal she means animalistic and instinctual and thus she's committing the appeal to nature fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:22 PM
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The one by a woman named Janet? Nice try haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:20 PM
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Feminist opinion pieces aren't good sources
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:09 PM
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How is dancing suggestively with your female friends goofing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:08 PM
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I mean A-sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:38 AM
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This makes no sense. Even if you startout as friends eventually they will make a move which could be considered a sexual advance couldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:38 AM
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That just makes no sense. Are you a straight non a sexual woman? Then you want sex with men you find attractive or compatible. Meaning sexual attention from them is desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:27 PM
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Why did you feel the need to quote their entire post that could be better summed up by saying "unwanted sexual attention"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:49 PM
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i am a woman, saying that sexual attention can cause sexual repulsion. From men they don't find attractive. why do so many straight guys get freaked out when men try to flirt with them? They don't lol. because it feels like someone is trying to DO something to them Nah even if they do is just because they aren't gay. your really just going to say “false”? Yes the idea that women want zero sexual attention is false. this post was a question for women lmao. And that means you can't be wrong? i am …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:47 PM
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Yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:44 PM
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edit: sexual attention means someone wants to treat you like shit for their own benefit. False women want sexual attention they just want to control who they get it from and limit it to men they find attractive. sexual pleasure isn’t so easy as a female, so it’s easy to associate it with pain and abuse. Your mental associations are not anyone's fault but your own. so when someone is giving you unwanted sexual attention, your brain says “they want to hurt me for their pleasure” That's just lunacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:50 PM
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But if women get preferential treatment up until college acceptance than they are more likely to get into college so even if college is more important the opportunity to go to college is equally as important and more women are given that opportunity based on nothing but vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:46 PM
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But you're not in peril though. Nothing even happened. Your peril was a construct you created
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:40 PM
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I never said it was nice I'm just pointing out its a wall of text instead of just that one sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:39 PM
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Threats that never evolve into action are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:37 PM
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So this boogeyman is kept in check? Then how is it a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:34 PM
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That's unique to college though ? And that wasn't the case when I was in college, at least not to my knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:32 PM
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99% of this is literally just you getting unwanted sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:31 PM
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Ah yes the statistically unreflected boogeyman that women insist exists under their bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:30 PM
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21% is nothing to sneeze at that 1/4th
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:29 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751667 This seems to suggest its at least up to college acceptance where women are given preferential treatment as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:28 PM
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That's often not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:24 PM
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As far as I recall all the way through college I'll try to dig up the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:15 PM
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Well as a whole both male and female teachers give girls higher grades across the board for the same assignments. Literally in blind studies they gave poorer grades on the same assignment if they were told the student was a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:11 PM
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When women argue men only want them for their vaginas they claim they love men for their whole selves do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:39 PM
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There's plenty of clendly men it's pretty ridiculous to suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:39 PM
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Women: we wish guys would love us for who we are not our vaginas! Also women: Well if you don't have money what's the point? Tell me, how do women love men for who they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:35 PM
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It wouldn't matter because two incomes are always better than one, especially considering single motherhood rates. These supposed fiscally responsible women aren't marrying men of similar incomes because they don't think they can afford kids... Then they turn around and become a single mother with half the income and support system their kid could have had. What you say would make sense if women weren't just having pump and dump babies with hawties regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:32 PM
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you the second part is what it wasn't like. The part you left off. "Oh he's still your bf? Nevermind then! Get those bastards baby!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:12 PM
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It's the rebound or the flow to the ebb we are in right now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:11 PM
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Yeah it's not that the man "ran" its that she got pregnant. It doesn't matter if you're in a relationship you still got forced to marry. It's not like they were like "oh he got you pregnant? He's gotta marry you!?" "Oh he's still your bf? Nevermind then! Get those bastards baby!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:09 PM
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A authoritarian dictatorship that is aggressive to all other countries and is committing human rights atrocities daily? Not a good example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:07 PM
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They aren't blind to leagues. They just confuse their rmv for their smv. Chad doesn't force you to sleep with him. You choose that. What you're suggesting is I should be upset at chad for all the women who choose him. No. Women should not allow themselves to be used. You are an adult with agency supposedly so how is it chads fault you don't like your looksmatch? I don't buy that women are so ignorant. If scarlet Johansson wanted me I'd be excited but I'd be incredibly wary and realistic. Women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:17 PM
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I think it's equally logical that since women are hypergamous they approach only men of the highest caliber which is why the relationships don't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:52 PM
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Depends on how far out of your league the guy is. Women seemingly only approach the men they find irresistibly attractive. So it's no wonder that doesn't turn out well and leads to pump and dump. But it's not the approach that caused that, it's you reaching too far out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:40 PM
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Correlation isn't causation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:30 PM
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Yes and I'm saying doing all that can only take you so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:36 AM
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There's a limit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:27 AM
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They don't act like they were scared. They act like they narrowly avoided being raped. Which they did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:17 AM
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Let’s see you exist in a world where rapists follow you What? How would you know the person is following you and how would you know they are in fact a rapist? and threaten you, By saying they find you attractive? Then we can talk about how other groups face different but worse challenges, and how that means your experience doesn’t warrant you having feelings afterward. This is just literal hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:03 AM
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Yeah, I’m still disagreeing with your weird need to compare the burden on the different sexes as a way to invalidate the very real trauma of being followed and threatened (sexually) in a very unsafe world. I'm not trying to invalidate I'm simply stating that here, in reality, men have more to fear from other men than women do. But women can behave as irrationally as they wish to. But I don't need to cater to that irrationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:01 AM
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Soo... just because you haven’t personally heard from a woman who was raped, brutalized, etc after being followed doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I never even claimed that. You're not reading carefully. My gripe was that women who had nothing happen to them behave as though getting through being cat called is somehow traumatizing and barely avoided rape. So that’s what I was referring to. You claimed it’s not an actual outcome of that experience. It very much is. Just not 100% of the time. No. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:44 AM
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When did i say women weren't raped (most likely to happen from someone they know) beaten (most likely to happen from someone they know again) or killed? Oh yeah, that's more likely to happen from someone you knew. I never said these things don't or didn't happen. What I said was every woman has a story about being "followed" by a stranger but of the women I spoke to none actually had any harm come of it, yet they behave as though it was a threat. Yet it's very unlikely that something will happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:47 AM
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I disagree. For example. Red is to blue, as cat is to dog. This statement is borderline nonsensical but because of the analogy you can infer that cats are related to dogs in some way, just as red is too blue. The analogy is showing that cats and dogs are different kinds of the same thing, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:16 AM
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Analogies compare the similar aspects they don't need to be 100% accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:58 PM
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I don't see how being addicted to love necessitates you not living the object of your desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:36 PM
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I don't see why people hate these kind of people so much. Everyone has addictions why is being addicted to love any worse than cigarettes or cocaine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:12 PM
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All those dudes? No healthy person man or woman truly believes they aren't worth a shit, at least in comparison to other average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:10 AM
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This doesn't change anything because men are the pursuers generally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:58 AM
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That's more of a personal choice albeit one that's advisable. But you have the compulsion to do this. It's not strictly necessary. It's not really a cost that's has fault if it's self imposed and not strictly necessary with proper condom usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:31 PM
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wrong. sex is usually bad That's a risk, only a cost after you have bad sex. and not as good as anticipation, You think it always lives up to expectations for men? It does not. treats you worse afterward, What? adds to your number which men hate, That's only a cost after you actually have sex have to wash bedding and get an STI test which are chores. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:47 PM
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From animals. Women. Men. Natural disasters. Plenty of stuff. And individual men do that, not men collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:45 PM
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Risks are only costs if they come to pass which they overwhelmingly don't
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:29 PM
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Protection
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:16 PM
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Yes really. Men have the instincts to do these things and the overwhelming majority ignore those instincts. Majority is meaningless. If women commit 5 murders and men commit 6 that's a Majority but it's not alarmingly disparate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:54 PM
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As I posted below, the cost may be far greater than the benefit, and women’s reluctance to marry or pair off reflects that. Reflects what? The greatest benefit would be the average guy’s. Average based on what criteria? Beauty is part of it, but beauty is perhaps the greatest asset any human can have that is (apart from having children) non-transferable. Exactly. This is how women think. Intelligence? Strength? Stamina? Nope. Looks over all. It bestows advantages in life like almost nothing else…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:53 AM
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I guess I'll just have to disagree. I've seen my sister struggle with her skin so much i refuse to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:42 AM
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There’s no evolutionary benefit to what you suggested, while eating broccoli is actually good for you. Except it does directly benefit you and your offspring It actually doesn’t benefit the woman or her offspring at all and may penalize her as far as genetic fitness or providing for her offspring. Having a successfull but less attractive man benefits everyone lol The species loses out as well. Again. The species doesn't benefit from purely beauty based criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:30 AM
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What comes naturally to some isn't natural for others. It's like you're asking "as someone who is tall why is it so hard to grow a few inches?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:13 AM
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That's just such an egotistical point of view. From someone who's sister had serious acne and skin problems due to hormone issues, you're just wrong. Some people's skin isn't perfect even if they do everything they can possibly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:11 AM
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There's several different reasons that your skin could look like that. And women's make up masks the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:01 AM
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If I said "peak of his career" do you think the level at which he's enjoying his career the most or the point at which he's the most successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:03 AM
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Why not just call it sexual satisfaction instead of sexual peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:02 AM
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yeh thats not what happens though. It can and does happen. like at all, thats called wishful thinking. I think going for the most attractive partner regardless of logic is more wishful thinking. heterosexual romantic relationships without chemistry and attraction become filled with resentment and dead bedrooms, cheating and animosity What you're saying here is women cannot override their instincts which would make them no better than animals right? How is it men can be happy with the arrangement…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:58 AM
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Grey skin can have many causes. Assuming it's from lack of effort is idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:41 AM
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Someone who actually values you. As Jimmy soul says, a very beautiful woman will only make you miserable because she so high maintenance. Same with a very handsome man. What does ignoring logic in favor of attraction get you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:15 AM
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The female human as the selector is a myth. Humans are closest related to chimps. Chimps are routinely stolen as babies to be brides and kept in check with the use of violence. Human men competed for women, and took what they wanted if they won. It's so silly to think that they would kill each other and then walk up and politely ask the woman for sex. No. They killed other men and if she didn't comply at best she'd be raped. At worst she'd be killed. So this idea that women's selection is for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:03 AM
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For daring to say something you disagree with when they didn't think you were around?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:08 PM
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As if that's something women have? Preposterous. Men are by far the more "human" sex. Men are constantly at odds with their baser instincts. Women embrace their animal instincts completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:07 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 11:06 PM
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Because guys out of her league will only use her for sex? Leaving her jaded and unable to pair bond? Because they could and have a higher chance to treat you like shit? Because you are just one of many to him whereas you could be someone's one and only? Because he won't help raise the kid after he leaves when you tell him you're pregnant? There's a million reasons why sexing a man in your league (eating broccoli) is better than getting with the hawtest guy you can find (eating McDonald's) Litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:59 PM
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Uhh? Just ignore your instincts. Use logical thought processes that you should have the ability as a human to use. It's like you're stuffing your face with McDonald's and claiming you can't eat healthier until the gene that makes you like fatty salty food is removed. No. You have the capacity to eat broccoli (fuck average guys) but you simply don't want to. That's not the fault of genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:50 PM
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Because humans acting on instinct isn't pretty. For men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:45 PM
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Most men are bad mouthed by their old partners. They convince the kids the dad is evil. Then when he comes to get the kids, there's a fight. It becomes a scene. The kids don't want to go with the dad because the mom is screaming bloody murder and the kids have been conditioned to believe their father is the issue. So eventually the dad just says "maybe the kid will be able to rationally see I'm not evil when they turn 18" This exact thing happened to multiple friends of mine, me and my gf. She l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:35 PM
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It's very hard to know to what extent these issues are fixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:17 PM
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Men do not demand that standard. Women enforce that standard on others. Men would keep fucking even if every woman stopped shaving tomorrow. But women won't stop because there's always a few who will just keep shaving and they'll get the men. But that's not men enforcing any standard. And women have the same problem as rich people where they assume that all of their success (looks) is a result of their effort when it's likely not. Therefore they over estimate their own influence on their attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:17 PM
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Really I've never experienced anything women could do to make themselves better in bed besides enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:07 PM
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sexual satisfaction is just a better way to phrase it then. The other way sounds like you're saying when they are at peak performance not peak satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:06 PM
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"Sexual peak" clearly implies the pinnacle or zenith of your sexuality. Id argue youd need to measure both sexual satisfaction and partners sexual satisfaction to know you're truly at your peak or the term is misleading. Saying women's sexuality is at their peak at x age when really what you mean is that's when women enjoy sex the most is just odd phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:35 PM
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I'm no longer asking a question I'm simply stating that the criteria used to measure this is objectively bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:21 PM
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So it's your personal satisfaction? Doesn't seem like a very good way to measure that imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:20 PM
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I didn't say that was what you said. I asked what criteria they were using to describe sexual peak and posited that the criteria SHOULD be based on the satisfaction of your sexual partners, not yourself. If it's measuring personal satisfaction that means next to nothing because you could prematurely ejaculate and still view the experience favorably.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 07:03 PM
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Meaning asking people how satisfied they are with their own sex life isn't an accurate measurement of their sexual peak. It should be how satisfied their partner is that is evidence of you being at your peak sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:58 PM
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How does one measure "sexual peak" self satisfaction or the satisfaction of their partners? I would argue your sexual peak is the point at which you can make your partner the most satisfied not yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:34 PM
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I dunno man. A lot of women think Justin beiber is super attractive dude is a skinny femboy with substance issues, which are highly heritable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 10:19 PM
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You think ALL of these things only happen to a small fraction of women? Statistically speaking it's true that it only happens to a small fraction. Have you talked to women about their experiences with men before - from small scale to large scale issues? Yes. And it's my opinion that it's exaggerated to the point of hysteria. Do you know this fear of unknown men, Uhh sure? men only want one thing, That one thing isn't rape lol. staying safe while walking out late at night, men being creeps - is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:23 PM
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Yes it happens. But it happens to a tiny fraction of women. Simply replying doesn't imply anything other than what my reply said. But the narrative is that it's happening to everywoman constantly. That women can't leave the house without fear of rape etc. It's just not realistic. It's totally out of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:35 PM
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I didn't say her comment said that. I said as a whole its being blown out of proportion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:07 PM
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Completely blown out of all sense of proportion. If you listen to them women are being raped at their jobs in public in front of everyone while the gathered crowd claps and yells about how much of a slut she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:45 PM
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Not reliably so, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:43 PM
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Somebody has to temper narcissists I'll be that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:08 AM
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Female victim hood complex is so exaggerated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:45 PM
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physical attractiveness and symmetry are not good indicators of health. Being ugly or asymmetrical COULD be the result of a malady. But not reliably so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:40 PM
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I'm saying if you're not giving someone 100% just don't be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:15 AM
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except that's not what you said initially
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:35 PM
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Men do things that they don't like and make them uncomfortable for women all the time. It seems like an exaggeration to say that's abusive of you to expect your bf to go out with your friend group he doesn't like, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:35 PM
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I'm saying many women would do anal for a shot at sleeping with thor. Not that every single women with sexual hang ups would
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:29 PM
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Jesus this guy must have been a fucking gigachad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:45 AM
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I'm saying instead of denying pleasure just go be with the guy you know does what you want. Why stay and punish someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 06:10 AM
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Observation? Logic? A person who thinks their potential mate is far above them in terms of attraction will do more to please that partner than they would a not nice looking guy. I don't understand how it could be argued. You think a woman who refuses her husband anal wouldn't do it for a night with Chris Hemsworth?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:57 PM
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It's just generally how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:54 PM
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Most men aren't that weird where you'd have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:11 PM
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Yes tho
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:07 PM
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That's not a sacrifice though? Presumably you'd enjoy that. What are you giving up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:07 PM
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He didn't say if you tried anal once, you have to do it for me every day. He said he wants what the other guy had so it would be trying anal once with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:04 PM
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What do you give up when he gives up the right to touch his own body
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:02 PM
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But they will allow chad to do anal after their first try but not Billy beta
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:01 PM
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Then go be with him if having your gash slurped is that important to you lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:59 PM
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No, its because we aren't run by our dick-motions where our ego lives inside the glans constantly demanding validation. Wait so wanting things to equal out and be even and fair is "dick-motions"? Never once did I even think that the woman he did it with was somehow better than me or got a better deal for less work, just a foreign concept to not take someone at their word for this. That's up to you though. It's up to you what you're willing to put up with. Everyone has different deal breakers. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:52 PM
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Yeah women generally don't seem to be fans of making things even out or be equal. Hencemodern society where men are still expected to be traditional and every woman is a Kween
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:40 PM
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As can she be replaced by a woman willing to treat him equally well as the hawt guys of her past. It's a win win. The for hawtties only sloot can find someone she wants to be open for. He can find a sloot that feels that way about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:31 PM
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And all he's suggesting is men can and should make choices based on her willingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:25 PM
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I'm sorry, why isn't it useful to understand and accept yourself realistically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:18 PM
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No. Wanting the best and ONLY the best is hypergamy. Wanting everyone ugly or hot is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:45 AM
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Unless you don't consider yourself human I'm having one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:44 AM
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Why would admitting your hypergamy to him and yourself be bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:43 AM
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I didn't disagree with you that they were offended I'm just saying that even if they weren't there was no conversation to be had
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:49 PM
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Again, even if that weren't the case, it's not a conversation starter to tell people to lose weight. There isn't really a discussion to be had after that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:15 PM
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Men with healthy sexualities that they keep to themselves don't go around saying things like "women should stop shaming male sexuality" That's a fallacy. And it's constantly thrown around here. Men can and DO care about other men and their struggles. So if a guy saw this happening to his friend, like being labeled a creep for daring to hit on a girl while ugly, he would say something like this. Men don't have to be suffering from an issue to know its an issue. I know kids are starving in Africa.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:14 PM
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Even then you either have it or you don't. That's just how it is with women nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:08 PM
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I think it's more like women don't have to worry about what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:48 PM
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How long were they supposed to talk to you about it? Its not really a conversation. "You should lose some weight" "Ok" End of the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:48 PM
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"If he has a complete 180° personality switch mid-relationship it's your fault and you can't assign any blame to the actual person (but if you do it you're a crazy bitch)" This just isn't realistic, and women portray every single time that they choose a shit man, it's this magnificent ruse he puts on. It's immature. Do people 180 shift? Sure, but it's very very VERY rare. It's far more likely you simply ignored the red flags because attraction. You are literally doing exactly what he has a probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:46 PM
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All of his advice seems pretty sound except maybe 3 what exactly is the problem here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:43 PM
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That wasn't what was said at all. It just disproves the concept of male hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:40 PM
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I don't think that's accurate. Unlike sex, the best person you can get a relationship with is your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:39 PM
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By that logic any sex could be foreplay for any other sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:26 AM
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I haven't seen that statistic, but there are several other variables at play here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:52 AM
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I disagree. Blowjobs are oral sex just like butt sex is anal sex. You wouldn't say anal before vaginal is foreplay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:48 PM
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Hand jobs are terrible. Just don't. Like literally ever. I'd rather a woman just not touch my dick at all. I've never gotten any pleasure out of it. Frottage? Oral sex is a type of sex, not foreplay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:38 PM
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And women arranged the race, hired the man with the pistol and rented the track but then tell men "be better than me" while running laps around them. Of course men are going to eventually join the race
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:26 PM
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Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:25 PM
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Which in turn would confuse you if someone you thought was below your league ghosted you, it could cause you to reevaluate your initial assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:28 PM
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Surely. But my point was a man saying he wants sex is just that. A man who knows what he wants. If you don't want sex, he doesn't have to do what you want him to either. So the best solution is to compromise for each other. You have sex when you're not really feeling it and he's affectionate when he's not really feeling it in turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:27 PM
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Gym can't change the bone structure of your face
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:42 PM
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But you're experiences happened at a very different time. Things change. Your experiences are not applicable to modern dating. That's the reason you think it's so weird dudes are on here, you just don't know how fucked dating is NOW vs then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:35 PM
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Yeah I'm not old and ugly lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:34 PM
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They love to be the victim and to justify their sluttery with hawt guys. To maintain this narrative, they must have been abused by an unnatractive man. This both paints them as the victim and excuses them from being reasonable with their standards. Scariest part is they don't realize they are doing it. Plus "abuse" from an ugly man could just be what a hawt guy would do that she'd react positively to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:33 PM
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Red pill just gives you the best chance. It doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't predict anything except you'd have a greater chance of x if you do y
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:30 PM
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But this sub isn't about the dating scene twenty years ago, it's about now. Generally speaking we reference the past to show how much has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:29 PM
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Well apparently women want to be a bitch i don't understand why men have to "be better"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:27 PM
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Because they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:24 PM
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Tbf foreplay isn't sex and women are the worst offenders of this, women think foreplay is something that happens to them not something they do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:23 PM
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And most men don't like feeling like they are being used for everything but sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:17 PM
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Yeah what women lie? Well I never!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:49 AM
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Yeah i don't understand, most of the men here are actually at an age where they are dating so they experience the current state of affairs. Yet these old and admittedly unattractive women on here try to argue about the dating scene they specifically say they are aged out of. Confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:47 AM
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How is he not compromising when it's clear he'd like her to sleep over every night but he's accepting fewer nights (if any) than desired?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:45 AM
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Doesn't matter how it is, only how it feeeels
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:16 AM
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The majority of men couldn't monkey branch if they wanted. The majority of women could. That's all I'm saying. Just because both sexes can and do behave in certain ways doesn't mean that behavior is split perfectly evenly by gender. The idea that its happening in perfectly equal proportions is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:01 AM
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Dating profiles say things like "sick of all the fuckboys" or "tired of being lied to, looking for a real man etc." They don't specifically say those words you did, but the sentiment is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:06 PM
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Ah so you mean the things that over a 3rd of women are diagnosed with. Doesn't bode well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:58 PM
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Some, but its mostly men posting dating profiles that were written by women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:57 PM
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What specific medical conditions? And shouldn't they seek treatment before doing something that drastic if its being warped by a medical condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:31 PM
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Men describe this in great detail, they call it the "light switch" where a woman suddenly hates you for literally no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:25 PM
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There's a literal sub about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:18 PM
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That's just the apex fallacy. Yes top tier men do. But the vast majority of men struggle to get even one gf let alone two women interested in him at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:16 PM
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Men overwhelmingly don't branch unless you're using the apex fallacy men are more collectors, they would rather cheat and keep their wife. But regardless the point i was making was that a woman being able to branch in the short term isn't evidence that she's a high value woman. It's really only if she can successfully branch to an objectively superior guy that she's high value. And even in that scenario as soon as she cheats she is done. So women who cheat are only considered high value until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:26 AM
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Meh monkey branching doesn't usually actually work out for the woman in the end and what is "better" about the new man is often subjective. But regardless, men don't like to be cheated on. This is the same as saying drug addicts are high value because they can pretend they aren't drug addicts for long enough to get a relationship. Well, once it comes out that they are drug addicts they will be left. So just being able to get a relationship via leaving the truth out of the equation doesn't make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 12:12 AM
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This is only because it's very hard to get honest verifiable answers about their fidelity. Sluts are low value even if they can fool a guy into commitment, because as soon as they cheat, which they will, they no longer get the commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:34 PM
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It occurs in both sexes but it is at least possible it occurs more often in one than the other right? Saying men do it too is kind of misleading when it's like you can find an example of any gender doing any number of untold unsavory offenses but it's more about the frequency than being able to dig up one example
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:36 PM
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Women are too blame for who they choose to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:14 PM
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I'm just saying following any knee jerk reaction that's proven to be detrimental over and over is a sign of immaturity. Knowing and saying that doesn't make anyone the lust police. It's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 01:56 AM
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Oh no make one make a few I'm just saying it seems many women don't ever make adjustments based on the whole "you can't negotiate attraction" nonsense. Good on you getting your logic on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:04 PM
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Yes, I'm just saying if you know you're infatuation gets you into trouble why do you keep listening to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:49 PM
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Seems like women have a hard time grasping this, because they still "listen to their heart" knowing it's stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:29 PM
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I disagree, most men aren't delusional about their ranking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 07:37 PM
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Do you deny that it's common sense to not believe a 10/10 wants to date an uggo 5 of 10? Why would the 5/10 believe that? Willfull delusion. She knew the whole time. She HOPED maybe he was telling the truth but she knew. She just wants plausible deniability for her sluttyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:47 PM
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Yes though, it is. If I told you that cotton candy was worth more than gold would you believe me? No. And you shouldn't. Same way you should know that guy who was way out of your league didn't plan on sticking around. It's common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:43 PM
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These women allow themselves to be strung along. They aren't victims of the choices they make
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 06:01 PM
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For the first few years, Better than never. until she wishes up in her 30s and sees how her other friends are treated in egalitarian relationships by their husband. Why would the relationship not be egalitarian? And mine you, she was primarily drawn to your resources in the first place given then attraction / resource imbalance from early on. Why are you concocting these scenarios? Thus, the divorce rape after y'all pop out a couple kids. Mhmm. K den
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:58 PM
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I just told you this Ever since no fault divorce hypergamy is now the endless pursuit of better, however nebulous that concept may be Your definition comes from a time where hypergamy was limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:27 PM
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I think she wont be too demanding because she hasn't been pumped and dumped so often she's neurotic about ensuring a relationship etc. They are more likely to just go with the flow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:54 PM
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And I'm saying it's outdated. It's the word in its classical form
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:52 PM
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Your definition of hypergamy is from a time when one marriage was all you get. Ever since no fault divorce hypergamy is now the endless pursuit of better, however nebulous that concept may be
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:48 PM
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Men are more varied than women in height, weight, iq, personality, hobbies, basically every different way you can measure it men are more varied. So if one had to be true, amalt or awalt, awalt is much much MUCH likelier to be true based on the fact that women are far less variable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:46 PM
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Women choose the men they breed with then blame the shit man they chose for being shitty. Take some responsibility for once
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:43 PM
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Again its not solely about fucking. And you're saying that if some genie appeared and said he could make it so you met your hubby at 18 you'd say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:36 PM
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Yeah nobody said you wanted it? I'm saying men want to spend their youth with the woman they will marry and spend their life with. You choose to phrase it in such a way that it demonized men but when you phrase it as i did you will see that men aren't drooling monsters. Why didn't you want a one? So you could be promiscuous? How does that benefit anyone? Especially considering the studies we've seen on the negative effects on marital happiness? You're telling me you find the guy you are going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:04 PM
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Why is it about access to young tits and not spending valuable years with the person You're going to spend your life with? You're phrasing it in a misleading way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:53 PM
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Yes because there is no middle ground between the us and Saudi arabia?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:53 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:52 PM
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That's funny because most of the attacks on this sub are from women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:04 AM
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If you can't attract women in your youth, it doesn't mean women owe you theirs. It doesn't work like that. Nobody is using the word "owe" but you. Why? You're literally denying marital rape? Oh dear. Oh dear Wikipedia! Hey did you know that marital rape only became outlawed in England in the 90s? That doesn't mean what you think it does. The point was a guy tried to use marital rape being legal to get out of jail. It didn't work. That doesn't prove that this was a common occurrence. Did you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:03 AM
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What you view as coming from inexperience is simply coming from an experience you don't have of women. A straight woman telling a man that women aren't x way when it comes to dating is nonsense. You are the one who has never had the experience of dating modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:58 AM
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All women cannot psychically know that the men we form romantic and sexual relationships with in our youth won't work out, but rather will be a lifelong process of change, discovery and learning. You don't need to be psychic to know you're shooting out of your league. Unless you're suggesting men are psychic and women aren't. Women are not plotting to deny dear men of our Sacred Youthful Tit. No you just don't even take the time to consider it If you feel contempt for women for our not miraculou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:48 AM
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I tried they say shit like "try again homie" and other nonsense phrases, an awful lot like a woman who doesn't have answers does on this sub. If he ain't a woman then he's the most feminine man I've ever interacted with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:42 AM
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The idea that the only time a woman is a bitch is if she's not fucking you is nonsense. The idea that you wouldn't consider her a slut if she did was equally nonsense. So I don't understand why anyone but a woman would spew literal disinformation. Like what is the agenda for a man to say that nonsense? You even respond like a woman. Nothing of substance
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:36 AM
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Then why would they spew bullshit like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:35 AM
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What, the fact that you are larping as a dude? No man would say that nonsense. There's literally no reason for a guy to lie like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:31 AM
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Larping as one maybe. The idea that the only time a woman is a bitch is if she's not fucking you is nonsense. The idea that you wouldn't consider her a slut if she did was equally nonsense. So I don't understand why anyone but a woman would spew literal disinformation. Like what is the agenda for a man to say that nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:29 AM
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I'm not sure what this is supposed to be. Are you confused by why I think it's a nonsense phrase or are you confused about which phrase I think is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:27 AM
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Uhh ok, that's not really evidence. But regardless, the point i was making isn't that more women are narcissistic, but that men struggle to resist their baser urges and instincts for the greater good. Women think whatever they want is the greatest good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:26 AM
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Meh women still report higher rates of depression and suicide attempts not really the smoking gun fix here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:29 PM
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Uhh what? Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:26 PM
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Why do women think this is a contradiction? They want to wife a virgin who will then no longer be a virgin. They don't want both a virgin and non virgin at once. You act like this makes no sense, all they are looking for is a normal person who hadn't had sex YET, not a person who doesn't want sex period
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:58 PM
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Men structured society so they could not have their cake and eat it too, and nobody could because it was not good for society as a whole. They may have had some primal desire to behave like animals (as modern women do) but they purposely constructed societal and legal barriers to prevent that. Men want to be better than their desires, women want to be nothing but narcissistic hedonistic apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:53 PM
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Except that it seems that men are now getting the short end of the stick, yet you and every woman on here doesn't seem to have any problem with that And no, men going and fighting and dying and wage slaving definitely had the shorter end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:52 PM
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When I was a teenager we used to ask one another if we knew the difference between a slut and a bitch. Cue the blaming it on men A slut is someone who'll fuck anybody. A bitch is someone who'll fuck anybody but you. Lmfao no. Just no. I don't understand why women love nonsense sayings like this. NO man wants to wife a slut. They might fuck them, but that's about it. So imagine you're a guy who really likes a girl, and you find out she's the town bicycle. Even if you're one of the many she agreed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:50 PM
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Definitely not men's fault. Men gave women that situation, they called it oppression. You're right that you can't unring that bell though. But I don't see how you can blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:39 PM
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No, they didn't accept that or they wouldn't have fought for the right to wage slave alongside men. Maybe women need to grow the fuck up and accept that if they wanted men like that they'd have to hold up their end of the bargain And obviously I didn't imply you want an actual father for a husband, just that you want the aspects of your father that aren't sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:36 PM
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Or simply because there would be no value in presenting that info. The best outcome from saying that is just that you don't get upset. Worst case scenario it does upset you and then you are in a fight. Not much reason to tell you, even if it's true. So it's not logical to think that it's just men being salty and you don't have high standards just because there is no benefit to informing you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:13 PM
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Or maybe they why an equal partner not to be someone's replacement father figure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:11 PM
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Why would they bother to tell you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:08 PM
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Meh i don't see it that way, imo we are always making small strides towards being better. We fail sometimes sure but overall the world is much more moral and less bestial than it was a hundred or even 50 years ago. It's not like theres going to be a moment where we've reached perfection, it's a process. But yes, I agree over all women are failing spectacularly at this. Which is odd since you hear all this talk about women being more empathic etc but in reality it seems they are more self centere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:45 PM
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By default, but the whole point of society is trying to be better than our baser nature
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:55 PM
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Why feed the starving? Why have welfare? Doesn't benefit me directly so fuck those things right? Why not just shoot anybody who disagrees with me if we are in private? Oh right because I'm a normal human being with empathy. Why is it this seems to be something women struggle with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:48 PM
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You like inbred children? That's how you get them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:07 PM
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If there's no proof why assume that its a huge problem Welfare exists due to womens choices, unless they are raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:15 PM
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Of course you think men not being abusive sacks of shit is unrealistic and unreasonable lmao. Statistically speaking a very small percentage of men are abusive thus, taxes to support the children they create and either outright abandon or beat on their mothers to the extent that she has to flee. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:16 PM
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nope. So much as spitting on someone is assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:15 PM
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Of other people understand this why can't the women crapping out babies with uncommitted piece of shit guys? If they knew this, why did they choose to have a baby? Because THEY don't care. The women do not give a fuck and expect to be catered to. It's morally despicable to bring a fatherless child into the world and make it everyone else's problem. They need to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:12 PM
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That's just not realistic or reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:48 PM
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Why is punishing unsavory behavior any more repulsive than the unsavory behavior? Plus, it's not even punishing them, it's literally just leaving them to their own devices
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:44 PM
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Uhh everywhere all the time? Why do you think it's illegal to be abusive? You can't be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:28 PM
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If the comments are being made they are relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:28 PM
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Why do you think appeal to nature is a good argument when it's been defeated several times?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:22 PM
1

Your white steed awaits sir knight!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:11 PM
1

Wanting the best she sees
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:09 PM
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And the red pill has a lot to do with these issues
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:07 PM
3

More like "those sluts are making children suffer and we need to stop it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:43 PM
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We DO ask men not to abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:40 PM
1

Well then sex with you wouldn't be conducive to an enjoyable mutual sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 02:19 PM
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You should not be focused on forcing your sexual partner to orgasm. That is not conducive to a mutually enjoyable sexual experience. When women talk about wanting orgasm, they never talk about how far out of their way they go to please their man, they say "men cum every time what about ME!?!" When I think it's that kind of attitude, constantly worried about having an orgasm during sex, which is keeping you from enjoying the experience holistically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 02:16 AM
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Exactly. I don't know why women portray this as though they are losing. I think it's because they like to play the victim in any interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 02:09 AM
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This is highly emotional logic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:17 PM
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He's right though. Fds preaches being all about yourself. What men can do for you etc make him behave the way you want. This is not dating from the 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:14 PM
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Oh were in agreement then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:09 PM
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But nobody is saying romancing a woman (buying a car) is the same as raping her (stealing one) It's more like driving (sex) is driving, even if you stole the car you're still driving it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:08 PM
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That's a weird feminist opinion piece, Cmon you aren't being serious about using this as your source. Just because some idiot says something doesn't make it true. What is sex? Penis insertion in orifice. What is rape? Penis insertion in orifice without permission. Rape is just sex without permission. It's like you're saying "stealing isn't taking"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:54 PM
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The idea that rapists are attracted to rape as an idea in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:52 PM
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Oh yes How sexy it is to spend all of sexy time attempting to make your partner orgasm instead of just enjoying an organic sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:50 PM
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Women have far more intense and longer lasting o's than men. So by that logic one o for you is worth at least 2 or 3 for men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:48 PM
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This is just feminist nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:44 PM
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Source
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:44 PM
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Rape is unwanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:44 PM
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How are you not understanding this? For the men that we care about, it’s integral. I fully understand what you're saying I'm telling you that's not what was claimed on that thread how are you not understanding this? Is this solipsism? Only if you define solipsism as reading what women wrote and GASP repeating it. Like I know that men would like to think that all the women that they encounter desire and want them sexually. But it’s not the same for women What? When did i say or even suggest that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 08:43 PM
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I honestly thought that as well until that thread. They literally said "male sexual attention is worth zero, because men will fuck a chicken sandwich."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:23 PM
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I assure you it's been said dozens of times on threads debating being loved for who you are vs what you do. All the men wanted to be loved as they love women, for who they are, all the women claimed to want to be loved based on their accomplishments and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:40 PM
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Women said sexual desire from a man is worthless and that they wanted a man who liked them for any reason except their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:28 AM
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They crave validation, and you can't really shoot out of your league if you're a 10. Since women shoot out of their league persistently, they get pumped and dumped. This doesn't happen to 10/10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:01 PM
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Except I thought women wanted to be valued for their concept of "who they are" (not the actual idea of who you are, meaning mind and body) when they say they want to be loved for "who they are" they mean personality and accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:29 PM
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Again, if women were helpless to programming women's rights wouldn't be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:07 AM
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That doesn't compute since women have been known to buck the status quo when they feel it doesn't benefit them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:48 PM
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On the whole, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:40 PM
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Because they are too busy being the primary earners, at the request of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:12 PM
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Gender roles same as women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:09 PM
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And you're assuming the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:08 PM
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Yet women complain about this constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:30 AM
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But we weren't discussing people kissing someone who didn't want it. We were discussing trying to kiss someone and having them pull away. In that case you made her feel uncomfortable, then she made you feel uncomfortable. There's been no violation of boundaries in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:13 AM
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A relatively rare event that is considered rape and heavily punished
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:11 AM
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I thought it was just that you made them uncomfortable. How could not kissing them violate their boundaries. I get kissing them when they didn't want it could but them just knowing you want to is violating?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:09 AM
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Yes but "self delusion" is when you fool yourself. Meaning you refuse to acknowledge the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:43 AM
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Its in the op. Would you like me to copy paste it? You can just scroll up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:25 AM
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No, they know. They just don't want to admit to knowing. How can you possibly be blind to the fact your dude only wants to hang with you once a week and just smashes and dips? Self delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:20 AM
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Pretending women don't know their arrangement is not accurate. He does this because they allow him to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:46 PM
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what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:30 PM
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And yet when it was up to men to liberate women, they did so. Why is that too much to ask in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:55 PM
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So you're saying that women not demanding a condom is looking out for herself? Wouldn't insisting on a condom be looking out for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:46 PM
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No they are choosing that. They allow it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:45 PM
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No, it's because they asked men, and men cared enough to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:36 PM
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It doesn't matter if men pursue women like that or not, because it wouldn't be successful because as pointed out in o.p., women want men who earn more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:35 PM
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You're saying in order for women to stop manipulating men, men need to change? Why don't the women change to reflect their supposed want for equality? Nope, their actions will never live up to their stated intentions so it's up to men to fix it? And no, women didn't do shit on their own, they asked men and men said yes. Why? Because men actually care aboutwomen. Women give zero fucks about anything but themselves. So men asking just as women asked men will accomplish nothing because women are se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:31 PM
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It's women choosing the chads though. Men don't want anything from chad so it doesn't make sense to be mad at him. He's not making a poor choice, the women are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:27 PM
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What's so hard about a woman saying no unless the man wears a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:26 PM
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Being slutty single moms. Destroying the future of our society by not even attempting to find a man who will be a partner and a good father. Women are uniquely responsibility for these things. Just like women claim they should be able to abort because vagina they also need to be held to a different standard because vagina. Men do not have a uterus, they cannot be held responsible for what occurs in your body. If I have diabetes (fertility) and someone offers me candy (dick) it's up to me to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:28 PM
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Men simply cannot be "liberated" from women's preferences. This is why patriarchy and forced marriage exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:48 PM
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You can't groom facial symmetry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 08:36 PM
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That says it "may arrive soon" not that it is currently being used as you claim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:15 PM
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I can't understand the question you're asking. The way men and women negatively effect society isn't the same. Mens negative effects on society are illegal. Women's are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:13 PM
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I'd like to see a source on that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:11 PM
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Then it's rude of them to not kiss me back. Made me feel uncomfortable correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:13 PM
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So bad societal behavior from men is being addressed and punished. Women's poor societal behavior isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:12 PM
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Saying that is meaningless because it's not realistic. Here in reality men can't get cheap reversible birth control. We have to deal with reality as it is, not as we wish it was
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:11 PM
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Yes blame the ones without a uterus for what happened to the uterus. If I have any condition, including fertility, its my responsibility and mine alone to be responsible. For example, if i have diabetes (am fertile) and you offer me candy (sex) its my responsibility to say no. Its not half your fault if I eat the candy just because you offered it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:00 PM
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Not giving women abortion isn't forcing them to have kids. It's a service. If you go to McDonald's and they refuse you service are they forcing you to starve?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:58 PM
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Maybe just be careful who you fuck lol. Reproductive rights are freedom huh? Guess Men aren't free
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:56 PM
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There's laws against that though correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:51 PM
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Uh yeah sure why wouldn't we lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:52 PM
1

It was rude of you to make a mistajr
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:51 PM
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Is your goal a relationship? Is every hot guy you try with just pumping and dumping you? Then you won't succeed in your supposed goal unless you drop your standards. If your goal is to be used by a hot guy, don't lower your standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:22 PM
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You can't fix an ugly face with effort
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:49 PM
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It's not men's fault women plug their ears and screech when you tell them to drop their standards even a fraction of an inch. That's the only secret of commitment. If a guy thinks you're his best option, he will commit. If he doesn't think you're his best option he won't. Men tell women this constantly, they just refuse to listen, that's not men lying. It's you not listening
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:44 PM
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No it's clearly projection based on your admittance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:43 PM
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This is so funny because of the whole "a man will fuck a chicken sandwich" dumb ass meme on fds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:11 PM
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You're mixing up tastes with the limited number of attributes in your study. Forced correlation and exaggeration from a limited amount of data = invalid. That's just one piece of evidence I've asked you if you wanted more. You called me insane in the first place for even suggesting women were less varied, do you at least admit that's true? Furthermore, I don't care about the slightly less varied thing, Then why did you call me insane for suggesting it? although do have questions , and no, I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:48 PM
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Well you're posting that under a comment that says women aren't a giant faceless indistinguishable mass with no agency of their own, No actually I'm not. Someone needs to drop the truth bomb to red pillers that there is just as much individuality and individual choice among women as there is in men. Shocker! This is what I'm arguing. YOUR post which claims that there is an equal amount of individuality in women as men. All I'm trying to fucking say is there's not. Stop trying to read between the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:41 PM
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Maybe if I was trying to argue anything but less variability it would be more complex than providing sources on variability, but I'm not trying to prove whatever it is you think I am
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:52 PM
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A "man or science" such as yourself surely recognizes such assumptions cannot be made about anything to do with humans , who even despite what that one study says, show great variability in differences of tastes, rationale and personality based on huge variability in personality and life-shaping persona experiences. Yes which is why i said they were LESS varied than men not that they have no variability. Women are less likely to be varied than men. That's reality Regardless of variations on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:50 PM
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Let's just not do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:39 PM
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Would you like more evidence or are facts dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:12 PM
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Males and females appear equally intelligent, on average. But on standardized intelligence tests, more males than females get off-the-chart test scores—in both directions. The greater variance of males on intelligence tests is one of the best-established findings in psychometric literature https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aei.org/economics/greater-male-variability-its-a-fact-but-it-can-sometimes-be-deadly/%23:~:text%3DMales%2520and%2520females%2520appear%2520equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:51 AM
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If you don't believe me, why not ask for a source? I can provide sources for the things I'm saying, but you pretending I'm saying insane things isn't productive to a conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:23 AM
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Yes the normal reaction to rejection is the suggestion of genociding women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:24 PM
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Lmfao yeah that's not really realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:11 PM
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Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:11 PM
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Why? What compels me to not shame behavior I don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:32 PM
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You can be into v but not want to eat pussy lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:28 PM
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Sure if that fantasy ever happened
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:25 PM
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I said they were LESS varied than men not that they have no variability. Women are less likely to be varied than men. That's reality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:24 PM
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Sadness
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:51 PM
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And some clits are probably more sensitive than others
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:31 PM
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You admitted that you had lack of sensitivity for a week at one point. Why are you now implying this is unlikely?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:08 PM
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Except that, you know, it's not for a lot ofwomen. I don't get what you think the point is. I'm talking about manual stimulation directly on the clitoris causing an effect similar to the death grip syndrome frequent male masturbation causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:19 PM
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Men take what they can get, women choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:17 PM
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Its not entitlement to be mad at rejection though. If you really want a job you don't get are you behaving as though you're entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:16 PM
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Women are too blame for their own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:09 PM
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Nobody is pretending to be nice when they aren't on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:08 PM
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What? Men are more varied in height, weight, iq, personality, every measurable metric. This isn't a joke, or an exaggeration. Look at any info.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:07 PM
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What is exasperating about what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:05 PM
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But there actually isn't. Women are less varied than men by every measurable statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:51 PM
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Lmfao those men are a boogeyman created by women trying to justify excluding good people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:49 PM
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I'm not understanding what's so upsetting about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:32 PM
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Which means if you have sex or masturbate once a week with clitoral stimulation you may not be able to achieve climax from piv
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:10 PM
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the fuck does religion have to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:20 AM
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I'm just saying you think a perfect woman is one willing to fuck any man. In reality it's willing to love any individual man loyally that is the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:19 AM
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Men actually do mature unlike women. A 35 year old man is different from a 25 year old one in many ways. Only difference between a 25 and 35 year old woman is the age. They don't mature
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:40 AM
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A perfect woman is one that's willing to love any good man loyally
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:38 AM
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Not really a great analogy. Lmfao at "just be alpha bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:49 PM
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Were arguing passed each other. All I'm saying is that of the 70% who can't cum from piv, there is a fraction who could but due to unattractive partner, overstimulation of the clit, and psyching themselves out by believing they will never ever cum from piv, cannot. I'm not saying this about every one of the 70%. I'm saying that some portion of the 70% fail to orgasm during sex due to these factors
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:34 PM
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And all I'm suggesting is that psychosomatic suggestions can alter physical reactions. Your clitoris can also become desensitized just as a penis can. When men can't cum from piv but they can from their hands they are told its because they are using a death grip while masturbating. Simlarly if you hammer your clit it becomes less sensitive. Combine those two factors, being told and believing you can't cum from normal sex and continually desensitizing your clit and even if you COULD have cum from…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:21 PM
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So you have an example of a definitive proof of a nebulous concept such as nailing down one factor as the definitive reason for a change in reported happiness? Take male suicide increase for example. There's several possible factors but it's impossible to nail down which one specifically is the smoking gun. But just because we can't definitively prove that there is one smoking gun factor to the increase of male suicide doesn't mean there is no smoking gun reason. It just mean psychology isn't a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:16 PM
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Good looking men have more experience; so of course they are better In bed. This would make sense if there wasn't a different protocol for every pussy. It makes no sense to suggest that being good at making one woman cum would be translated into being good at sex if, as you pointed out, its different for every woman. It's just an excuse. Good looking people aren't better at sex, sex is better with them because you think they are good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:12 PM
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Name one time anything of this nature has been definitively proven. Direct quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:10 PM
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I've read it. I'm simply not convinced because there certainly is a psychological factor to sex. You're suggesting that your body has zero reaction to attraction is nonsense. And we know the greatest indicator of orgasm is attraction. This is proven. So how can both be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:53 PM
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So you don't have an example. Just as I suspected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:51 PM
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quote the portion where it says gibbons are closer genetically to humans than chimps there bucko. You can't because it doesn't say that because that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:51 PM
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I don't see how those are the two options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:49 PM
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No, I'll take a look at human beings living in what's closest to our natural state behave to figure out how humans in their natural first state behaved. If you're looking for the basis for human instinct, it would come from before modern human times. Why the fuck would I look at chimps...oh, is it because humans are closely related to chimps in your mind? They are the closest factually, not in my mind lmfao. Because if I was going for the closest mammalian relative I'd look at Gibbons with whom …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:26 PM
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Again, that is preferable to the current status quo of welfare queen chadsluts crapping out future criminals and expecting everyone else to foot the bill for their sluttery
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:24 PM
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Actually no, psychology studies are notoriously not replicable. Name one time anything of this nature has been definitively proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:23 PM
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No, women aren't more qualified. Gender quotas are a thing. Men are still better at 99.9% of jobs. Technology didn't make men unnecessary, it made it so women could compete. Although they only actually compete at passing on emails etc. Women overcrowd the applications for easy jobs. Like 6 apps for women to every 1 app for a man. So it's not that they are more qualified, its simply a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:20 PM
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What consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:07 PM
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Which is why I said "basically" they are not doing so on purpose but they are effectively doing so regardless. And men won't conform, society is going to have to get over the women are wonderful effect sooner or later
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:28 PM
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So having zero accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:23 PM
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Take a look at how chimps behave if you want a glimpse at how ancient humans behaved, just as a hint, its not at all what you described
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:23 PM
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Women are over represented at schools due to the feminization of the education system. And thus they are over represented in the air conditioned office jobs aka easy careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:18 PM
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Yes they are, but mostly because most women cannot be disciplined without being condescending towards the less disciplined, more abrasive than they need to be, and they attempt to be dominant in the relationship. Women aren't as used to the dominant role as men and it kinda drives them up the wall a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:16 PM
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Less attractive isn't necessarily unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:10 PM
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There's no way to 100% prove anything dude. Especially as it pertains to psychology. Are you honestly suggesting that women being happier and 1950 when gender roles were strong and less happy every new study as gender roles decay are completely unrelated? The burden of evidence you're asking for is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:06 PM
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Follow that up with incentives to be a stahm. Like tax breaks etc. You miss that part? And no, it wouldnt. Two incomes are still better than one. It would incentivize them to stop being chadslut single moms though. Even if that was accomplished we'd have done some good. Better they go celibate and not ruin a kids life by bringing an unwanted bastard into the world
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:04 PM
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It just so happens that hot men are more experienced You could suppose that, but there's no evidence that this is the case. There is evidence to suggest the same sex act performed by an ugly guy performed by a hotter guy will lead to better results. I personally think the "i need you to suck my clit and perform specific maneuvers" are desensitized for one, and for two are too neurotic to sit back and just enjoy. Constantly worrying about orgasming and trying to set up the perfect scenario where …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:02 PM
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Bruh caring about getting a woman off is some gay shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:56 PM
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I didn't say that nothing else changed. But the largest cultural shifts came from the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:53 PM
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No more welfare, no more child support, no more gender quotas. Change schools to be less feminized. Bring back slut shaming. Legal penalties for single motherhood and divorce. All that would be a good start Follow that up with incentives to be a stahm. Like tax breaks etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:53 PM
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Basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:51 PM
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Well the main thing that has changed is the sexual revolution and the destruction of the nuclear family. By almost every other metric the country is more prosperous than the 1950s, yet women were happier then, with happiness declining to this day. Over a third of women on some form of anti depressant or anti psychotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:58 PM
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What do you mean how? Like in what fashion or do you mean why
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:57 PM
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Women are better on average. LMFAO source. Patients are less likely to die with a female doctor or surgeon. Because there are less female doctors and surgeons. Male variability means that there are going to be more male innovators but most men perform below women. Send a woman to bend rebar and pour concrete lmfai. Women have outperformed men from elementary school to graduate school since the early 1900s. Schools are feminized. Men performed much better when you didn't get expelled for a simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:20 PM
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Women are worse than men at masculine rolls though. We're saying feminine rolls are easier and less important, but being weaker less efficient men is an even larger waste of time. Women have something that suits them and is important enough. It doesn't have to be advanced rocketry. Plumbing is more important than being a bank teller, but most people would rather be a bank teller, because it's easier and still relatively important
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:04 PM
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Tell that to the rates of depression and medicating in women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:54 PM
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And women want the same. Bloody hell, I dunno who tricked you into thinking they were a different species No women do not just want sex in return for sex unless you're top 5% of dudes. I don’t even know what this means. That being judged based off your current level of utility is a recipe for disaster. Even if you claim men use women for the utility of their pussys, it's not like they're pussy can fire them or just up and fall off. So men are constantly being reassessed. Constantly having to pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:47 PM
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Again, I said the words "basically" and "in comparison" meaning that the work men do is far more important. Women are just better suited to raising children. It's not that men can't do it, or that it's super important, it is just that men are better suited to more important work
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:34 PM
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Completely false lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:35 PM
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Selfish happiness is like trying to catch smoke in your hands. You can touch it but you can't keep it. You'll just constantly be snatching at wisps and fleeting grasps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:33 PM
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It’s more me than my pussy is. K, not really relevant. How about you put a different persons brain in your body? Are you still you? No because you are the SUM OF YOUR PARTS as I already stated. I love this! You really think this is an arguement! I thought you had an argument till I was proven wrong. And you didn't answer, is a brain in a box you? Do you expect people to treat that cardboard box as they would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:31 PM
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It doesn’t matter whether we interpret who you are your way or mine, in both definitions, men and women are the same. If women want utility from men, so do men from women. It seems as though we are arguing two different things. I want to argue which sex loves the other for who they are more. You want to argue that anything and everything in this world is transactional. While I disagree with your argument, I'm not really interested in deviating that far from my original point. That men love women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:29 PM
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You aren't your brain. Your brain is just one of many organs. You could argue that its the most important organ, but not that all you are is a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:18 PM
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So you think your brain is you? Take your brain, somehow keep it alive, and put it in a box. Are you still you? You have no way of communicating, you're just a brain in a box. Should everyone treat you the same as they would a person with a functional body? Of course not. It's no use talking to a brain in a box. Who you are is the sum of your parts, any individual part alone is not who you are. Removing parts fundamentally alters who you are. Part of who you are is your vagina. Remove your vagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:18 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:58 PM
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So again, unless men can love and fuck a corpse they are just as transactional as a person dating someone for their wealth? Nope. That's bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:33 PM
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You need to re-evaluate the way to categorise “who they are” because it cannot be divorced from “what they do”. Why? Because what we do, defines who we are. See this is what i meant when I said you should just present your ideas without all the gotcha bullshit. This is the fundamental disagreement. And here's why you're wrong. If who you are is what you are, let's say you're an alcoholic. Does that mean you were an alcoholic when you were a kid? Nope. Does that mean you'll be an alcoholic foreve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:32 PM
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Nobody is trolling. Compared to men women have always been coddled. And sure that stuff is important, in the same sense as the person bagging your groceries is. It's useful, but not a unique or skilled trade by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:15 PM
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Expecting sex and not caring any anything else aren't the same. And if we're comparing ways the genders love women's love is far and away more insulting because it's contingent in continued utility, not just based on something you have and do naturally. Yes it's so much more romantic for women to hunt for utility? Fuck out of here with that nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:13 PM
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basically
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:09 PM
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I was more speaking about the first part, you're pussy isn't an accomplishment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:06 PM
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So in your mind, a woman's pussy is the equivalent to a man's accrued wealth, despite pussy being something they are born with? The point I was making is who you are vs what you do. Normal human adults have sex. If you are a normal human adult that's part of your identity, who you are. Your bank account is the reflection of what you have done. How can you logically say that those two are the same? You COULD suggest that they are equally important respectively but that doesn't mean they are the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:05 PM
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Why don’t you love female strangers? Because I don't know them Because they don’t do anything for you, they don not enhance your life in any way with their company, intimacy or sex. False. Even if they did enhance those things for me somehow I don't know they did since I don't know them. Therefore, female strangers offer nothing useful to you, they have no utility. You're making a strange argument here. I was saying men want women for who they are. Now youre saying unless men can love a stranger…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:03 PM
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It presents a flaw in your logic. Just admit lol. Lmfao unless men can love female friends as much as they love their wife my logic is flawed? That's the real flawed logic. You haven’t thought this through. We all want things from each other. Yes men want the woman and her natural body, who they are. Romantic love requires intimacy, not sex. But very few men are happy with one without the other. And? Healthy adults have sex. It's not expecting them to do anything except what is natural aka who t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:00 PM
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Vagina is what you have, Sex is something you do, blowjobs, doggy, riding, these are all things a person “provides” So you're suggesting there's no difference between gold digging a man to get a mansion and a man wanting a healthy adult relationship. There's two scenarios here. Men want: a healthy adult relationship with literally zero expectations outside of that. That's wanting a person. Women want: A healthy adult relationship AND wealth and status. That's loving someone for WHAT THEY DO. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:58 PM
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No. I don't love female strangers. Now can I know why that's relevant? Its like if i asked you if you would have a isopod as a pet and I got mad when you asked why that's relevant to the convo. Ask weird and dumb questions I'm gonna ask why you think it's relevant and maybe you should just specify so we both know what we're talking about instead of doing gotcha bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:53 PM
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You've lost the plot buddy. So if men don't want to fuck a corpse their love is utilitarian? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:49 PM
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Its a bullshit gotcha question. A relationship without sex is just a friendship. So yes men could love without sex but not romantically since by definition romantic love involves sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:48 PM
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So you're suggesting that since men want sex they want what women can do and not what they have? Their pussy isn't the result of any accomplishment. Sex is a normal part of a healthy relationship. So you're suggesting that men only want women to do what's a normal part of an adult relationship and therefore their love is utilitarian? Nope. Because they expect nothing that they don't give. They want your natural self your pussy and their offering their natural self, their dick. Women want to offe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:47 PM
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The difference being that you're muscles were probably the result of effort, your vaginas aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:44 PM
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I'm using fucking logic bro. Try it some time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:43 PM
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Ah yes, if the relationship is bad it's men's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:42 PM
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huh? Why would that even be relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:40 PM
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I did. I specified that in this situation his utility isn't necessary. So no, loving him for what he can do isn't loving who he is. This isn't even up for debate. What you can do isn't who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:39 PM
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That's not really an argument that in any way suggests I'm wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:38 PM
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But it's sort of like being a plumber isn't it? Kind of a shit job but SOMEBODY has to do it. And women happen to be more suited to that then plumbing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:36 PM
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That's about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:33 PM
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I'm more speaking of a deserted island that is lush. Shelter already exists, your needs are being met. Vaginismus isn't relevant. It's such a tiny fraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:25 PM
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Even if some men "just want a hole" (a very insulting way to say men like sex) its still truer than loving someone for their accomplishments or utility. Your vagina is intrinsically you as a human woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:23 PM
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They love what the man can do for them. Not the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:22 PM
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It isn't transactional for men to love women for who they are though. Your pussy is intrinsic to who you are as a human female. Who you are is you on a desert island. Your job doesn't mean shit. Your degree doesn't mean shit. Just your personality and your body, that's who you are. It's women who's love is transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:18 PM
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I think it more is trying to say narcissistic people can only live others for the beauty they feel is reflected. Meaning women can only love hot guys because they feel attractive when they are with hot guys. It isn't the other person, it's how you feel about yourself when you're with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:16 PM
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We could see the ratings people gave on those. It wasn't a self reported survey
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:12 PM
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What? I did nothing of the sort
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:22 PM
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Self reported data isn't hard data. Simple as that. What's funny is suggesting self reported data is infallible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:21 PM
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Happily married women are the happiest women. There's been cherry picked stats that suggest women are happier alone, but i call bs because it's self reported. Women are always the victims in their minds, so in a relationship they'll leap at the opportunity to blame their unhappiness on the relationship. When they are alone they don't have anybody to blame, and they can't blame themselves for their unhappiness, because they are the perpetual victim. So they just lie and say they are happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:01 AM
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She didn't secure commitment so she doesn't get it and ends up alone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:58 AM
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Feels like you're trying to put a price on your virginity, why not say what you'd expect in return
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:48 AM
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She will leave before she secured commitment from who she perceives as better, which usually ends poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:27 AM
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But lol isn't a way to continue the convo. There is no response to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:41 PM
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Why are girls so upset that sex is different for men and women? It makes no sense to suggest that because you've let x amount of guys put their dick in you, that's the same as a guy putting his dick x amount of places. Dicks aren't pussys. They are the equivalent sure, but that doesn't mean it's the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:16 PM
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The only fair trade off would be if women were limited sexually in some way, this was called oppression even thigh l though it was actually equality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:04 PM
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"I'm off to fuck skinny chick's fatty!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:55 PM
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We all know a fake story when we read one dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:28 PM
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A family cannot thrive if a man cheats because the woman will leave. That's the reality of the situation. The concept were discussing is one where both will eventually cheat. When the man cheats he'll feel bad and might even straighten up. It's a mistake for him. Women do the opposite. A person or relationship being stable means they are relatively unchanging. You're scenario for women's "stability" is not stable by the virtue of it being a constant state of flux.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:27 PM
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K den. Take your larp elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:24 PM
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That's not the definition of stable though lmfao. What you're saying is "stability for women isn't stability, and that's actually more stable than actual stability" A family can thrive if men cheat, it cannot when women cheat. That's the reality of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:22 PM
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lmao of course it is. Every other aspect of the relationship was perfect and you were losing weight and he still left you and blatantly just said "see you fatty I'm off to fuck skinny chicks!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:10 PM
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Women can't though. When they cheat they leave. So it can't be more stable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:09 PM
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It's a larp. You're telling me you had the perfect relationship and one day he just says "fuck you I want skinny people" That's an internet larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:03 PM
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Polygyny is stable for the man though. Men don't leave when they cheat so even if you think all people will eventually cheat, conforming to mens idea of stability is still inherently more stable than the womans
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:02 PM
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Oh please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:59 PM
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Its proven that it increases the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:51 PM
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Not the only thing just the main
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:42 PM
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You've never witnessed a man hook up with a fatty at the bar at 2am simply because she's the only option? Youre not very observant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:34 PM
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This is just confirmation bias. That is literally all. Stereotypes can and do come from the confirmation bias mindset. The idea that men are actively looking for broken women is nonsense. There's so many other potential factors at play besides your own depression. What is the economic status of these men? What culture? Were they raised by a single mother? Were they out of your league looks wise? (9 times out of 10 women don't go for looksmatch) Any and all of these factors could be at play, so b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:33 PM
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If you don't have any pussy you'll take any to serve that need. Ideally they would be hot, but men who get none will take it where they can. There's no contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:22 PM
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Uhh what? What do you mean tip my hand? Yes men like attractive women...GASP!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:12 PM
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I disagree. On an individual level it varies but if every man could spin hot girl plates the majority would
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:07 PM
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that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:55 PM
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I'm saying the vast majority of men are fine with and agree with the narrative men want sex first and foremost. On an individual level they might say they also want a relationship. Women are the opposite. Their main message of just wanting nice guys is the lie, and their individual preferences are the truth. I think it's worth mentioning that men don't try and say that men wanting sex is a lie. They just say they personally are different. Whereas women will insist the lie of them wanting nice gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:55 PM
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Because that's what you said you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:51 PM
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Its only a prison because we get locked into defending our position even though it's been clearly proven. So you're right, one way out of the prison would be to stop arguing. But another would be for the truth to simply be accepted and acknowledged
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:47 PM
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Uhhh that's not really the point though? We aren't talking about what is smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:45 PM
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So somehow every single guy who hit on you when you were depressed clearly displayed manipulative predatory behavior (a concept which is subjective) and every single man who hit on you since clearly displayed that he did not possess these traits? When men say watch what they do, not what they say, they are speaking about women as a whole. You're speaking about individuals with individual characteristics, not really the same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:45 PM
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your intentions are just how you get what you want. Your imperatives are what you want. Men may lie about the first, but it's on you if you believe that lie since they don't lie about what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:43 PM
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How could you possibly even know any of that? Confirmation bias would like a word
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:41 PM
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Women lie about what they want, a nice guy etc Men do not say this. The overwhelming narrative is that all men want is pussy, and most men agree with that. It's women who's actual preferences don't line up to their stated preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:39 PM
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How are they not valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:36 PM
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Much more than women. Men have no qualms about being honest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:33 PM
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Why is a man at the starting point dysfunctional in your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:32 PM
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But it's not just that though. Study after study proves it's not dominance that attracts but propensity for violence etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:09 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:48 PM
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That's needlessly reductive and suggests that women actively search for predators. Femininity is a lot more than vulnerability, although that's a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:48 PM
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Mem don't value those things because they are predators and women don't hate those things because they aren't. Men like them because it's feminine and women hate them for the same reason
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:25 PM
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Problem is men who are virgins are not attractive. Your virgin boy fetish probably doesn't include a hideous day acne ridden balding neckbeard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:22 PM
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N count is different for men and women. It's not the same. It would only be hypocritical if it was the same. It's not. It's low value to not understand the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:21 PM
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Oooh yeah that's what most women mean when they say they were enslaved
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:51 PM
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What you view as enslavement is just hysteria. Its not being a slave to be expected to raise your own kids and help out around the house while you're at it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:24 PM
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Men don't want to enslave women wtf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:14 PM
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It is though. You have multiple points of consideration. A low n woman who treats you well is still less likely to cheat than a high n who treats you well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:12 PM
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I'm not mean, selfish, stuck up, cruel or manipulative. There's a difference. I find women have a hard time understanding the difference. Women often say they are sarcastic when they mean they are loud bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:08 PM
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Your body count increases your risk of cheating. That is all. If you have a high body count you're more likely to have a wandering eye. I don't know why that makes you upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:56 PM
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Because observation says you're lying, whether you know it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:29 PM
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You could just as easily suggest women over visit the doctor and are over diagnosed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:42 AM
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And that's the point. If everything is manipulative then why is being manipulative for sex any worse than asking someone to ring your groceries?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 07:39 PM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 06:48 PM
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"You are wrong" isn't really a valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 06:35 PM
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But he hired you and allows you to work so obviously any problem he has with you is personal and therefore not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 05:05 PM
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No there's no issue unless he does something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:07 PM
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And you got paid in the form of sex, which you mutually enjoyed. Might not be the pay you wanted, but I bet the cashier would rather make more money too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:39 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:38 PM
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When did i suggest anything like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:23 PM
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I think he's saying if you're using the term manipulation to describe normal human behavior then manipulation as a term is meaningless. Do you manipulate the store clerk to ring up your groceries?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:14 PM
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That's called confirmation bias. Have you ever heard of it? It basically means you trust your gut and you look for reasons to justify that trust. Its not a "gut feeling" that you shouldn't get in a 30 year old strangers truck when you are 12, that's common sense. Why do women insist they are psychic despite having zero evidence? Your gut feelings are just irrational emotions, they might be right, but only coincidentally. If you suggest otherwise you're saying you're psychic. We know there is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 12:56 AM
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Thinking your gut feelings reflect reality is the equivalent of saying you're psychic. But you're not though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 12:27 AM
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It's not "being an adult" to deny reality Yet you deny the reality that sexual assault is incredibly rare, especially from a stranger. and forgo basic risk assessment just to make men feel better about themselves. What the actual fuck are you even talking about. I'm the one telling you to assess the risk, as an adult, and get yourself an equalizer. You're the one throwing a fit about risk assessment. It's not risk assessment to be sexist. Saying that you should judge men differently for the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:35 PM
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You two knew each other dude. He didn't follow you, he joined you. You didn't want him to join you, he said fuck off, and that was the end. But nope, in your mind you're always a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:17 PM
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The fuck does that mean? Lol Be an adult, adults have urges they do not act on. It’s a perfect analogy. It isn't. The purpose of a sexual relationship is to be sexually satisfying Hardly the ONLY purpose. A better analogy would be "why eat food unless it tastes good?" And the answer is obvious. Because that which tastes good isn't always what is healthy. Tasting good is a bonus, not the point of eating. Just like being overcome with lust is a plus in relationship, but not necessary for a happy h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:16 PM
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There’s no point to a sexual relationship without sexual desire. Be an adult and take charge of your thoughts. Like there’s no point of employment without pay or food without nutrition. That's a nonsense analogy. Male sexuality is very cringey, I agree. You and I know that's not what i said. Males will stick their penises anywhere and it’s embarrassing. It’s a good thing female sexuality functions as quality control. Lmfao. So conceited. You're instincts aren't quality control anymore than a dog…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:40 PM
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You're sincerely suggesting there's no point to anything if you can't run entirely on instinct like an animal? And the chicken sandwich thing is dumb as fuck. It's literally the most cringe humor I've seen in years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:29 PM
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if those same men end up with the woman after the carousel they weren't shooting out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:25 PM
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You're definition of following includes him walking around the campus which he attends. This is hysterical, I can only assume you're exaggerating everything else as well. And people get mad when they are rejected, welcome to the adult world toots
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:24 PM
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Oh noooo! He didn't react positively to you shooting him down!? The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:09 PM
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Men know what league they are in and can logic that women are out of that league. The fact that women can't or won't do the same does not reflect negatively on men. I'm not saying no man has ever shot out of his league, but we're speaking in generalities. Generally men don't shoot too far out of their league. Generally women do. You know when a single mom gets with some nerdy guy after chad cums and runs? That's her actual looksmatch, and she should have known that from the start using deductive…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:08 PM
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Women’s attraction is binary, it’s fuck yes or no. Yes you may have to...GASP! Think with stunting other than your tingles. Crazy how in modern society people are expected to use rational thought over instincts. Male attraction is a sliding scale, that’s why men can fuck a chicken sandwich or an obese woman and why men can and should be the one to lower their standards. What is this meme of men fucking a chicken sandwich and why does every fdser think it's peak humor? women there’s no such thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:04 PM
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I've tried to explain an acquaintance on campus shooting his shot isn't the same as a random stranger following you home. You refuse to acknowledge reality in favor of victimization yourself. I'm just playing along in your victimhood game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:59 PM
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No a woman's best bet is to be reasonable. Find a guy who is reasonably attractive, not try for every chad she sees lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:57 PM
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No. Women are hypergamous, they want better. Men who are her actual match are friend zoned until she gets done on the carousel and realizes no chad will commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:56 PM
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Women have inflated egos, those same women go get fuckzoned by the chad they think they are in the same league as. Men rarely shoot for the hottest being of pure light they can find, unlike women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:48 PM
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Yes so know your league and don't try to get with chad and no time wasted. It's not his fault you're shooting out of your league. He didn't waste your time, you did
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:44 PM
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I've given up trying to get you to see logic. You have made it clear that you are the equivalent of a gang rape victim because a guy you knew didn't fuck off the second you told him to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:37 PM
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I get it. You're a brave survivor of sexual assault because an acquaintance tried to hit on you. I applaud your bravery. How do you even find the will to keep going in the face of such trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:32 PM
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It's somebody you knew walking on the same campus you both go to. Not really the same as a random stranger on the street. The only hamster here is yours where you're equating an acquaintance shooting his shot to a random stranger harassing you. Every woman wants desperately to be a victim and will concoct ways to appear as such
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:00 PM
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You wouldn't say "Hey [insert female name here], I know you keep getting groped on the bus Cmon and catcalled and followed by strangers and the police won't do anything about it, If they won't do anything it's because nothing illegal is happening. but the only things that effect you are those that you allow. :)" to someone's face. So you're saying that because women would react irrationally it's a bad point? Nope. What part of "men do it because they know women can't do anything about it" are yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 02:53 PM
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The only things that effect you are those that you allow. If you get traumatized by a guy grabbing your butt you are really milking the situation. You're literally basically lamenting that it's not okay to shoot someone for grabbing your butt. You're saying I'm downplaying the seriousness because I'm saying it's not even in the same realm, because you see it as comparable. I've had my butt grabbed and pinched by random women. I somehow came away from it not fucked up. I basically dismissed it. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:17 AM
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So we've went from the fear of getting killed or raped to the horror that would be having your butt grabbed without permission? That's pretty dramatic. You actually fear getting your butt grabbed and literally nothing else happening? Like your nightmarish fantasy is you feel a hand on your butt and you look and it's some random guy and he leaves and nothing else happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:02 AM
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That depends on how you define addiction. If you work out are you addicted to it? If you have dinner with your dad once a week is that an addiction? In my book its an addiction when you cannot go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:45 AM
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I don't think an acquaintance on campus walking around with you counts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:41 AM
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You're dancing this edge where you're talking about being scared of violence from men, then reframing it as wanting to harm someone who grabbed your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:28 AM
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Those studies are strange, they say because women's brains light up in mimicry of pain they see and that proves they are more empathetic, but empathy isn't ONLY imagining yourself in someone else's position.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 02:29 AM
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He's a time waster if you're below his league
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 02:15 AM
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I thought this was about fear of physical violence though? And there's mace and tasers and brass knuckles and womens defense classes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:55 AM
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Vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:23 PM
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A few. Meaning the minority of men you were with. It's just not that common
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:18 PM
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But you wouldn't care if you thought she was hot. If I was with scarjo and dudes made fun of me for it I wouldn't give a flying fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:15 PM
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You just blow dudes to completion and nothing else? Never expect any other type of sex from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:13 PM
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And a woman could get a gun. Much less effort than bulking at the gym and strength doesn't even guarantee you win the fight at all. Better trained people best stronger people all the time. Really think about it. A man would have to go to the gym for months, maybe years, AND do fight training. But all you need to do is get a gun, or a knife even. Now it's even.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:05 PM
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Yes but women who just want to blow you to completion and not expect reciprocation is incredibly rare
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:02 PM
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It's got nothing to do with embarrassment. They simply don't find you quality enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:00 PM
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You're basing this on your experience. You have no way of knowing if he behaves similarly with other women. The only way to know if it was extra good for him would be to observe a less enthusiastic performance between him and another woman. Your pleasure doesn't necessarily equate to his pleasure and might even run counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:46 PM
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Doesn't have the necessary genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:44 PM
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Women very rarely "give" a man an orgasm. He usually just uses her to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:32 PM
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That's a very strange response
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:10 PM
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You accused me of missing a point and putting words in your mouth. I did neither. I asked a question. A good way to know if someone is asking a question is to look for the question mark. Looks like this (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:09 PM
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How could you possibly one they were following you? Sounds pretty narcissistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:08 PM
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I asked a question. Did you see the question mark?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 10:07 PM
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It's not like theres a history of dangerous guys raping and overpowering women. Glad we agree. The worst part is I'm not even talking about the distant past when I say history, I'm literally talking from experience. Lmfao maybe if you live in a third world country. This comment just shows how fucking little you know what your on about. You mean how unemotional I am? I hate to use liberal buzz words but this is the fucking definition of privilege. I'm sure you hate to use the words you used unpro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:58 PM
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And? The fear of bodily harm is somehow less than sexual violation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:56 PM
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I'm saying though no harm has ever come from it! So the idea that you should be constantly in fear of harm that has never emerged is strange. Like let's say i feared speaking to strangers. After how many times speaking to strangers with no negative result does that fear become irrational? And I've heard several women claim to be followed by how do you know what their destination was? You don't. You make assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:47 PM
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The privilege of what exactly? Not being scared of random strangers larger than us? Nope men feel that too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:44 PM
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Every woman seems to have these horror stories about how traumatized they are by some guy saying something yet nothing ever actually comes from it. Like women claim to have been followed but I've never seen or heard anyone talking about anything actually happening. It's very odd to me to be so offended over literally nothing, especially under the guise of it being threatening. Because if there is no harm or even implied harm there is no threat
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:11 PM
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Anything a woman doesn't like coming out the mouth of a man she thinks should know he is not in her league
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 09:09 PM
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That is one theory but hardly definitive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:32 PM
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Except nobody aided in your poor vaginal health. It would be more like somebody gave you a yeast infection, even on accident, and you were yelling at him in public
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:31 PM
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Telling someone they're hobby is stupid isn't objectifying though. Not caring whether or not they have hobby is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 05:35 PM
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And you think there aren't women who do the same? Or women who have other but equally bad vices? Of course there are, problem is they aren't willing to settle for their match. You needing to better yourself to get with someone who is as bad as you were is not very inspiring
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 04:54 PM
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Yes they may want sex AS WELL as to simp, but that's part of any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:16 PM
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They don't make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:15 PM
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You might notice them but you don't give them any thought beyond eww
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:13 PM
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They don't anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:56 AM
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I don't understand this thought process. You can recognize a slut and still be getting laid. Look at it this way, would your father like that? Is it because he's jealous or because men in general just don't like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:23 AM
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I'm not though. Women are choosing to only like 20% or less of men. Blaming men for that is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:11 AM
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You're blaming men for women's choices
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:49 AM
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Having sex with a dude for a month here and there is a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:05 PM
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Women can do no wrong teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:00 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:37 PM
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Society literally can't though. If every woman just stopped all this nonsense you think men just gonna stop fuckin?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:48 AM
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Everybody naturally diess it to some extent but I don't think it should be encouraged
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:27 AM
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Dark haired women found light haired women were more wanted by men because their body hair is less visible. So dark haired women shaved their body hair. Then they had the advantage on light haired women and light haired women started shaving too. Everything women do is to one up each other, men never demanded any of that nonsense or at least not until it became the cultural norm thanks to weekend competition. And again, what choice would men have? You think all men are just gonna go celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:17 PM
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What choice would they have? Women compete with each other by doing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:54 PM
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Yes women's standards for themselves is shallow, wanting a man as shallow as you is... shallow, don't get why that's controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:42 PM
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Yes women are shallow about their appearance in general, wanting a man who is just as vain because he looks good is shallow as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:05 PM
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Your man scaring you is dominant. You don't want him to be dominant towards you, but that doesn't mean it isn't dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:02 PM
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Very few people in the world have perfectly toned bodies with fat in all the right places without doing ANYTHING. My point was they exist, so it's difficult to know to what degree your efforts are responsible for your appearance. And even then, some need to put in much less effort than others. That's the point I'm making. If you look at someone with bad hair, not very fit etc and think "I bet they just don't put in as much effort as me" is narcissism. And yes you said white teeth and I assumed y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 10:01 PM
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what no babe thats not what dominance is. the true dominance that would make wet is the guy who stands up to him and tells him to shut the fuck up. How is telling a guy to shut up dominance? dominance is not disrespect??? And yet your example was him telling a guy to shut the fuck up, not very respectful. here's how to be dominant without being a pos : protect me, That's not dominant. stand up to other men for me, Still not dominant. show me your value in shit I have no hands in, dont take my bs…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:47 PM
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Saying that people can be genetically gifted is egocentric, but assuming your every positive physical feature is the result of your own efforts and not giving genetics any credit isn't? That doesn't make sense. And yes, I've seen people with all the features you've listed. I've seen guys with incredible hair and asked what they do just to have them act confused and say "nothing" a friend of mine stayed with me for months and would brush once a day instead of twice like me. We ate the same stuff,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:39 PM
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Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing but did you know more than half of kids were born to single mothers? This epidemic is real, despite attempts by women to downplay its only getting worse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:30 PM
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Hardly. Many people are just gifted with those features genetically. You've never met a person who eats whatever they want and never gets fat? The homeless guy with a huge head of thick hair? A guy who has never had a cavity despite you being more fastidious with your dental hygiene. All of those things exist. Maybe you somehow earned yours, but even then genetics is your friend for at least half of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:28 PM
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yeah, he values a relationship with a hottie more than his sanity, even if it's a bad relationship he'd rather that than being alone. He values having any relationship over none. It's not that he's choosing her over an ugly girl, he's choosing her over months and months maybe even years of involuntary celibacy and uncertainty as to whether he can even attract another male. Women cannot understand this because their options are limitless. Even if they had to be single every sexual whim is catered…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:25 PM
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You're just splitting hairs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:18 PM
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Why do women assume their attractiveness is the result of effort, despite the very real possibility that it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:13 PM
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I guess. I'd assume alphas would be much more dismissive of less attractive women but maybe that's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:57 PM
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You weren't asking a question when I asked this one. You said "The point is..." then made a statement, so I asked you a question. Can you not see the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS point I am making that women have sex and it doesn't automatically throw them into either category? I don't think that's realistic. Nobody thinks a woman who has sex with her bf of three months once is a whore. So I guess I agree but I don't really understand the question since it assumes some men do judge women for one sexual enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:34 PM
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I'm ASKING you a question. Should prostitutes be treated the same as saints? Is there no meaningful delineation in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:07 PM
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So you want men to treat prostitutes as though they are saints or men have a complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:45 PM
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Most men don't want to think of their male family members fucking either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:29 PM
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The only reason you want me to give you my definition is so you can point out that it's subjective though. I'm trying to prove it's not relevant that it's subjective, doesn't mean it's any less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:20 PM
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Yes you can though. Just as you said "around" 50 degrees you could say a slut is someone who had around x amount of partners. But here's the thing. I don't like a day over 80 degrees. Too hot. Others don't mind until 100 degrees. This doesn't mean what is too hot doesn't exist or can't be defined, it just means it's variable to the people involved. But that doesn't make it any less a real concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:55 PM
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I'm saying part of being single for women is the cock carousel, so they'll prefer being single and justify it this way and that without even realizing that this is a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:21 PM
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When you want a raise from your boss, do you act like a dick? Its normal in society to be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:20 PM
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Men don't have the luxury of choice women do. Often they just get with who they can, whereas women have choices. The hottest men 5-20% of men have the same level of choice as an average woman. If a guy is in a bad relationship he usually can't get anyone else. Women always have choice. You think you need to be dominant to raise a good son because you view dominance as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:14 PM
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Of course you don't think that consciously. It's a subconscious thought process
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:07 PM
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women do tho, like awalt for female nature but....all women aren't single moms ? No just half and rising. a part from the dumbass teen and 20s single moms, from then on,most single moms are divorcees ??? Nope. Most single moms are from the "single never married" category. tbh id like that too for both men and women but babe u need to realise you're a minority in men. ive found most men who say shit like id take a good mother over a hot woman always long for the hot babes, and then when they get …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:06 PM
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Again it's not. What temperature is too hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:59 PM
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That's not relevant to the convo. It's like suggesting that since people disagree what too hot is, there is no such thing as too hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:54 PM
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Except if women truly selected for anything but looks, there wouldn't be so many single moms. And dominance is fine in some settings, but also borders pretty close on aggression which is not good for society. I want women to select for men who would be good fathers and partners, what is good for society and their children, not what makes their pussy tingle. Why is it I can logic my way into wanting a less hot girl for the sake of loyalty etc but women can't? Women behave as if their thoughts can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:43 PM
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I want them to be attracted to men who are superior actually, just superior in terms of partnership and fatherhood rather than looks and literally nothing else. So funny how women think pretty faced men are inherent superior to more successful intelligent loyal men who are slightly less attractive lmfao. I'd take a girl who is a 5 I knew would never cheat and be a good mother than a 10 who is good for nothing but looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:32 PM
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I'd be more inclined to believe they enjoy being "single" so they can ride the cock carousel because most women on here seem to agree that it is normal libido for a woman to just be a straight slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:29 PM
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What does polygyny have to do with this? And women are attracted to every attractive man, the percentage of men they find attractive is just smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:28 PM
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So you honestly believe the father thought "I wanna sell my daughter to be used as a fuckpig by a guy who will treat her like shit!" Female lives weren't valued less, females choices were arguably, but only because men were also forced to think logically and sometimes brutally so rather than just acting on fleeting instincts like hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:27 PM
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I went to the extreme to prove to you why the whole idea is nonsense. It's very logical to take any idea and test it with extremes to see if it holds up. In this case, it does not. The entire idea seems to be blaming men that women are sluts, and somehow implying that unless men date said sluts, that is a mental issue with men. Its just nonsense. You can say I'm proving your point all you want but are you saying the man either dates the girl who sucked off his family in front of him or he's got …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:25 PM
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No i want single mothers to make better decisions with men before they become single mothers. Hypergamy in action makes them single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:22 PM
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It must be exhausting to be so hateful while denying all historic context and reality Its actually funny because that is what you're doing. I'm putting your feminazi ravings into actual context and you call it hate, but pretending men married women just to chain them to the doorframe and violently rape them every time their dick got hard is just hysterical nonsense. Stop using a hysterical view of history and look at it as a whole. The father wasn't trying to sell his daughter as a fuckslave, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:21 PM
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I disagree, because women will chad chase and get pumped and dumped end up a single mom etc, this is nearly 50% of women currently, the problem is getting worse, not better. If hypergamy was being controlled single motherhood wouldn't be such a large issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:17 PM
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Why wouldn't she be attracted? Because her inner monkey isn't? She can't overcome that? She is just her instincts and nothing more? Than she's less than human.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:11 PM
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Whaaaat how can anyone think this? They have higher thought. Women were second class sex slaves sold by their parents to the highest bidder, I'm going to translate your feminazi. women were expected to marry for the benefit of everyone in the family including themselves often when they were children. And the men were young as well. People getting married at 16 was common. This never happened to boys. It did though? There were no child boy grooms being sold to grown women to abuse. Women had no u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:10 PM
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And I'm saying that isn't a complex men have. If you act like a slut, you're a slut. It's like your saying men have a "sky is blue" complex, and they say either the sky is blue (it is day) or its black (it is night) Men calling sluts sluts is not saying they can be nothing but that, simply that they are that thing. That isn't some psychological complex that is men's fault. This is such a meme argument. Omg he saw me sucking his 3 brothers dicks one after another, and now he won't wife me up? Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:03 PM
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The trick is, you'd have to truly overcome your ego and understand that your instincts are bad. People don't like being beta bucks because their women treat them like shit, do starfish sex once every three months etc. You'd have to actually overcome that aspect of your petty inner monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:57 PM
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Ignoring your innate drives is a recipe for cognitive dissonance and a build up of stress hormones, Yet men do it for the greater good. very unhealthy. As is rampant sluttery which we see now. Women were forced to ignore their desires for thousands of years under the patriarchy, now they don’t have to anymore. Nothing was expected of women that wasn't expected of men. Yet women called that oppression. The whole point of feminism was to free women of the obligation to give their sexuality to men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:55 PM
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Polygyny is repressed when you don't act on it. Women REFUSE to cease acting on their hypergamy. They stubbornly commit the appeal to nature fallacy and claim that because hypergamy is natural it is good. But the appeal to nature fallacy is a fallacy for a reason, it's not sound logic. There's no excuse for BEHAVING like animals in modern society. Having thoughts doesn't hurt anyone, but acting on them does. Why do women insist on behaving like animals in modern society? Why are they so stubborn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:49 PM
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I just don't agree, unless as I stated, an incident such as a girl sucking all the dicks at a party occurs but that's not men deciding that woman is a whore, it's that she decidedly is. Unless you're suggesting that a man recognizing slutty behavior is the Madonna whore complex, at which point all that Madonna whore complex means is men don't like when women are whores. Which again, isn't some complex men have, it's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:45 PM
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ACTING on polygyny is actually fucking them, just like acting on your instinct would be actuality murdering them. For example, I'm sure someone has made you so mad you've thought about hitting them, but you didn't. That's you controlling your baser instincts. Acting on polygyny is a choice. But the whole point of this convo is that humans have instincts they deny all the time for the sake of a civilized society. You said hypergamy isn't going anywhere because it's part of female nature. Well tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:42 PM
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I wasn't making a 'Pro Freud' argument, I was just responding to you saying 'Female psychologists?'. I was asking who is STILL using it. Pretty much women All women are either saintly pure virgins, or ultra promiscuous nymphomaniacs who aren't worth a shred of respect. This is just the supposed thought process behind what I described earlier. I've never heard any man say a woman was too maternal to be sexy, or vice versa barring if she's sucking every dick at the party, in which case not wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:36 PM
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yes we do babe we're massively different from chimps Yeah i never said we were the same. I said chimps are similar to PRE CIVILIZATION humans. no, i disagree. rape was a display of dominance, like uh look at me im taking your woman you whimp, dominance is the nature part, not rape. If rape is a display of dominance and dominance is natural, than rape is natural. Same for murder. Murder was for resources. also that's not how evolution works Except that yes it is. If you only breed the non violent…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:25 PM
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Yeah so choose to ignore them. Problem solved. Oh wait, women absolutely refuse to do this. To the point where I wonder if they even can. I'd argue at this point, via womens own argument, only men are truly sentient. Women seem to be slaves to their instincts on a much higher level. Not only that, but they are stubbornly unrepentant and unwilling to acknowledge the harm their bestial behavior causes. It would be like men insisting that murder is part of their nature and they shouldn't be expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:22 PM
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It is though. Freuds theories have been discounted several times. The inability to maintain arousal in a loving committed relationship. That's the definition. Meaning men can't be attracted to women they view as too nurturing or maternal, yet also can't wife up whores since that would end badly as well. I'm here to tell you it's utter nonsense. Men crave variety naturally, its got nothing to do with their relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:17 PM
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so everything that chimps do we would do???? If we were just running on pure instinct we have no reason to believe otherwise. hypergamy is to women what polygyny is to men, not murder and rape. like babe do u hate men, are u one those rad fem Like it or not, rape is a part of nature and was at least a small part of males reproductive strategy. If a male fought another male for you and killed him, he'd take what he wanted from you by force unless you complied. This is why women like dominant men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:14 PM
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Nah that doesn't compute. Being nice to people to get what you want is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:09 PM
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Recognized by whom? Female psychologists? No. Men do not. I've never heard any man say a woman was too maternal to be sexy, or vice versa barring if she's sucking every dick at the party, in which case not wanting her to be the mother of your kids is more based on her lack of discretion and decorum than any complex on the men's part. Women seriously think not wanting to have kids with the town bike is some sort of negative psychological complex that men have? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:08 PM
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A healthy urge isn't the same as a healthy action. Its healthy to eat when hungry, it's not healthy to gorge yourself on every piece of food you find simply because you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:05 PM
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Do our closest relative mammals engage in that activity? Yes chimps do. Pre society humans fought for resources and took the other tribes women as prizes if they won. Willing or unwilling. This is in human nature, men can just choose to ignore this ugly aspect of their baser instincts. Why can women not do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:02 PM
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Its not healthy at all lol how could you argue that it's healthy to slut around? It's much healthier by every metric to deny yourself that hedonistic pleasure. This is like arguing heroin is healthy because it feels good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 04:00 PM
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Meh you develop a taste for things. The potential to like caviar is the same for every person, but rich people are more likely to develop a habit forming taste for it since they can easily afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:59 PM
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I don't really understand how that equates to nicer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:54 PM
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Oh is that why everyone is murdered and raped? Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:53 PM
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Why is it necessary they break up with their bfs? Basically all I'm hearing is you think women with normal sex drives sleep around a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:53 PM
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Men who look like this are more likely to do x, is not an unreasonable statement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:47 PM
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Why is it that women can't have an average libido and not screw tons of different dudes? Why is screwing just their bf not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:46 PM
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I've never met a man irl who even knew what that meant let alone actually embodied it. This is a thing women make up as to why they were pumped and dumped by a hawttie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:44 PM
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We ignore our nature all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:36 PM
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You would actively try to have a gay son? That's literal abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:28 PM
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Hardly. It's women that have trouble with that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:26 PM
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At least one woman admits it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:30 PM
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Hmm how does that reconcile with women claiming that "alphas" are nicer than less successful men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:24 PM
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Branch swinging in pre society was much more simple and straightforward than it is now. They were probably much more successful when resources weren't so varied. You couldn't get a bank loan for more food, but now you can get a bank loan to get a nice car you can't afford. Women get confused at signs of wealth and resources and unless they see the paperwork they don't know better. Also men will lie and say they want to commit, but then fuck her and leave her. That can't really happen in the past…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:19 PM
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Nah society just needs to bring back slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:01 PM
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They aren't MORE they are differently attuned and women don't "know" which way to branch swing and often attempt just to be shut down and/or regret their decision when they realize the man was all flash and no substance. If branch swinging worked at a rate of even 50% you'd have a leg to stand on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:00 PM
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It's not men's fault that nature isn't fair but men do benefit from the unfairness when they get into a relationship with a woman. Actually both benefit in different ways. If they benefit from it, why should they not pay for it? Why would they owe women? Wouldn't they owe nature if they owe anyone at all? So nature gives women an unfair in your opinion and this means men need to pay the debt they owe to nature to women? Or do you really believe that everybody should always be able to get everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:58 PM
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This wouldn't be an issue if women had an ounce of self respect and self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:29 PM
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Lmfao none of that stuff is true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:28 PM
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Against. Because you're reasoning is that because nature is unfair, you should be unfair to men. It's not men's fault nature isn't perfectly balanced. Why is it fair that because nature isn't balanced men have to pay more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:34 AM
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When striving for fairness we ignore nature. We try to make things as fair as we can while ignoring the imbalance of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:01 PM
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Facial symmetry doesn't correlate to health to any reasonable degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 09:08 PM
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But living with someone doesn't feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:11 PM
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If you have nothing to hide why care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:52 PM
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a sense of independence and freedom and individuality, one of the most important things a human can ever possess Based on what metric? Why do you keep making these statements as if they are universal? freedom from the 1950s housewife lifestyle which was much more akin to slavery than modern workplace Honestly I don't see how at all. You are raising YOUR kids. If you were being forced to raise other peeps kids, sure. That's akin to slavery, but raising your own kids? It is natural to work togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:37 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Why is wage slaving more human than raising your kids when raising your kids for the majority of history was the main job for women? If anything raising your own kids is the most "human" objectively. This working in office buildings etc is not natural at all. Therefore it's less human. wage slaving" nonetheless makes you independent. Why is independence more human than dependence? Are people who are dependent less of a person? In ancient tribes everyone had a job, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:45 PM
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Why do you believe the male experience is default human and the experience of not wage slaving but raising your own kids isn't? How is wage slaving more human?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:26 PM
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I would argue being a teen is the perfect analogy to being a 50s housewife. In both situations you have the understanding of the adult world without the responsibility that comes with it, and you're basically free to do whatever you want outside of your chores as long as it's approved by your parent/partner. It's much more similar to being a teen than it is to being a child, because children NEED to get their hands held because they literally don't have enough info. Teens may or may not need the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:11 PM
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So it's less autistic to say "sexually attractive man at the top of the sexual heirarchy" than simply summing all that up into one simple term?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:07 PM
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Better by what measurement? Was the product produced by slave labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:06 PM
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I disagree you can dismiss it entirely as definitely being a case of this ignorance is bliss. There's no definitive evidence either way. So you can say you believe it is, but not that it is for sure. And I don't think most people would want the understanding of being an adult. I've never spoken to anyone who prefers the responsibility and stresses of the adult world over being a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:50 AM
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Watch what they do, not what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:46 AM
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Why is it autistic? Its shorter and gets your sentiment across succinctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:40 AM
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Statistically yes they were happier
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:39 AM
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I believe they are better suited to it than men for the most part, but as a supplement to a man in the home not by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:19 AM
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Let's say i said "Women are hypergamous" And you said "not all women" What conversation can be had? Now the discussion isn't on the saying habits of women, but how individual women are. It subverts the conversation into an entirely different subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:41 PM
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I never said everyone struggles. Why did you feel the need to strawman? Men would love it if women were actually half of every type of workforce instead of just the workforce that has ac in the office. Women don't do those jobs not because of pushback, but because they don't want to work hard. Therefore they clog the applications for easy jobs. And since gender quotas exist, they will often get the job over a more qualified male applicant. Acknowledging this reality isn't a way to excuse working…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:15 PM
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But it's not really a way to debate anything. It's a way to stop a conversation, and keep any helpful info from being passed. There are generalities that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:11 PM
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The craziest part is women love it! Vanity and narcissism are incredibly attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:03 PM
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Women can't understand what real hard work is. Laying concrete and twisting rebar etc fucking sucks. It's hot, it's hard, it blows, yet it's entirely necessary. Women flock to pleasant jobs, so there's like 6 women applying for every 1 application from a man in cushy relaying emails hr office jobs. And then they don't understand why men don't just try harder. You can't compete with the other 50 male applicants and 300 female ones. It's just basic math. Men need to work much much harder and stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:01 PM
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Yet you continually bring up that non point as if it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:56 PM
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That is just preposterous since most men actively try to choose and pamper virtuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:35 PM
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I mean you blame both right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:07 PM
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Model body for women is just not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:53 AM
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You were saying that you are not to blame if women don’t choose you. No i said blame yourself if you can't get any woman. Just like women are to blame for not having attention/dates if they are totally out of shape and self care and beauty stuff, men are to blame if they can’t get women. In a way, yes, but it's not really comparable because all a woman has to do is not be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:39 AM
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When did i say there was zero effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:37 AM
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If no woman chooses you, YOU are to blame. There’s clearly something indecent about you. We weren't talking about me specifically, but I disagree with the concept regardless. There are plenty of quality men who don't lose their virginity till later in life. Understanding that women make their own choices, date assholes and then cries boohoo or fucks around 24/7 and wants a perfect husband is worthy of judging and blaming for their own choices and hold them accountable for past choices. Yes this …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:14 AM
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Yes there were magazines of naked women, primitive but comparable. Also there were games that were more sophisticated than pong in the 80s and 90s. I never said tech and culture didn't change. I did say that those things already existed in some form. But we are arguing a chicken and egg scenario, where you think it's because of porn and video games men aren't getting laid, i think men weren't getting laid then filled that void with porn and video games. Then, even though women drove them to that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:10 AM
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So I am to blame for women's choices? Seems odd to suggest I control women's choices. Understanding that women make their own choices and judging them for that is treating them like adult humans. It's definitely not suggesting life owes you anything to say adult humans make their own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:02 AM
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Women choose who to sleep with. Who else is to blame for who women sleep with but women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:41 AM
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Men can separate love from lust, it seems women can't as well as men can. Generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:17 AM
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Because the culture can't survive if more people aren't born? Because immigrating instead of replacing with native citizens permanently changes culture. This will reach a point of no return where western cultures resemble the Middle East in terms of women's rights. Us that what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:09 AM
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Yes because those never existed before recently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:03 AM
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They need to stop blaming the people making the decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:02 AM
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It's not impossible and even likely there are similarities in the vast majority
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 08:12 PM
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But I like the money and it shouldn't be up to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:24 AM
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I could skip the extra hours I do on the weekends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:34 AM
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Depressing but not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:51 PM
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Yes unlike women we can't just shirk days of work in a row
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:53 PM
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Why would nobody fuck just because women stopped fuxking guys who are too shit to raise their own kids? Why not just fuck, you know, better men? And no, there isn't "lots" of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:43 PM
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Women shouldn't fuck men who aren't down to raise babies. But yall keep doing it. For the same reason as men don't use a condom every time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:39 PM
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Men are busy working
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:38 PM
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Yes... Which would be... Separating the concept of personhood and body. No it wouldn't. If you laugh at a stand up comedian are you separating the concept of personhood and body? Replace the word "person" with "personhood", that is what I'm referring to here. You've created a false definition for personhood. Men value exclusively the physical body, which they consciously separate from the personhood/personality of the person You're just not making sense. You can't exist without your body. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:26 PM
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Those aren't relevant. If men consent by sex so do women. There being options to end the pregnancy doesn't mean she didn't consent, just that she has options AFTER she consents. And so should men. That's called equality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:59 PM
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Or because women won't want to date you if they can't financially rape you at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:51 PM
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But she agreed to birthing it by having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:48 PM
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Your analogy fails because it leaves out that YOU are responsible for the violinists ailment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:46 PM
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Yes, they do. No. For the last time they don't this isn't debatable. Lie again and this convo is done. Most women don't have cozy, comfortable jobs. Comparatively you do. A lot of us started in shitty, difficult jobs. Comparatively less shitty than the men start out with. Like I said, women do a giant portion of widely understood caregiving, Which. Is. Easy. In. Comparison Worlds deadliest jobs. How many do women do? they work in shops, Easy. factories, Already pointed this out, maybe in third w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:22 PM
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Men separate the concept of the person and body. False. They just care about one aspect of the person. If they only want to fuck them, they want one aspect, similar to if they only wanted to discuss things with women, they wouldn't be using the whole person. I'm not sure if you're trying to say that yes rapists do value girls for who they are...? You're being hysterical. I never said your vagina is who you are, I said it's PART of who you are. So rapists appreciate that one aspect of the women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:17 PM
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Abortion is legal for both men and women. Transmen can abort. False equivalence. Men cannot abort. So allowing women the right to do so is sexism. That's literally all there is to this argument. Allowing one sex a right the other doesn't have based on biology is literally sexist. Just stop. I've already proved this wrong. Name one right men have that women don't. Go ahead. I'll wait. Then abortion is already equal. False. You get to end a pregnancy in your own body, man or woman. Except men can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:13 PM
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They can compete. How? Nobody stops them. Except the 6 women applying to every 1 man. It's not unfair that women apply on position that they want. I never said it was but I'm stating reality. Here in reality women don't do the hard, necessary jobs. They mob the pleasant jobs en masse. Imagine if men did the same, society would cease to function. And that's my point. To women equality means men do all the icky jobs and they work in an air conditioned office. Is that really equality? "Yes because …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:41 AM
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They make shitty choices knowing welfare is there if they mess up, they don't plan on needing it but just knowing it's there alters their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:36 AM
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Women shouldn't want to fuck a guy who wouldn't want to support his kids! Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:22 AM
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Yes I knew most of that. Pleasure to speak to another educated. Yeah Medicare is a form of welfare but not the one I was specifically referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:20 AM
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Murders have fallen around 1% but that 1% occurs mainly in areas that have high crime and, you guessed it, poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:18 AM
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Firstly, plenty of seemingly good guys abandon their kids. There's no hard stats on this but I disagree entirely. It's guys who were shit 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:17 AM
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This may come as a shock to you, but welfare incentivizes poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:51 AM
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How does the man accomplish this? Lying. Lying is legal for both men and women. So it isn't inequality. I understand the point you're trying to make, but it's bad and it works against the idea that women should have abortion. You're pointing out equality. As close as we can have to it. Not equality in OUTCOME but equality in action. Nature made her the one that gets pregnant. But we don't give rights based on natural differences. Therefore if lying is legal for both sexes this should be legal, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:48 AM
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A yamerola
/r/PussyPassDenied10/07/20 12:33 AM
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As a whole, but not when we look at areas where welfare use is highest, always high crime areas
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:25 AM
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Do women not choose who they sleep with? Shitty people of both sexes will always exist. Women choosing to sleep with deadbeat chad isn't a fact of life. They have a choice. So they can bitch about shit men existing, but they are the ones breeding more of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:23 AM
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You're denying reality. There aren't infinite positions so men cannot compete when similarly experienced women are applying at drastically higher rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:24 PM
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So the old just plug your ears and pretend it's not happening huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:16 PM
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It and people claim it's about equality. But again, this is an entirely different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:11 PM
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Why are you not addressing the limited amount of positions? You said any man can do the same as you, but every job position at a cushy office has 6 women applying for every 1 applicant man. So men cannot just be equally qualified and expect to be hired. Then they have to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:09 PM
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Yes, women are completely irrational, if it doesn't benefit them directly everyone and everything can die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:53 PM
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So? They don't deserve it more than I do just because they are men. I never suggested otherwise. I'm pointing out there's a limited amount of positions. I will not stop developing my skills and I won't become a housewife so they can take my place. Why would I? I never suggested you should. I deserve to be where I'm right now. Maybe, but if gender quotas are a thing you'll never know for sure. And it's not like women don't do the hard work as well. It actually kinda is. Women are nurses, Sick peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:51 PM
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We're talking about equality which the law is supposed to be. Whether or not you have to or should follow laws is an entirely different subject
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:42 PM
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So you think the solution to women's shitty selections is to force men to make up for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:36 PM
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Those people are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:35 PM
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Uhh sure. How is that relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:34 PM
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Women do this because they'd lose out to other women who did if they didn't. It's not to please men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:34 PM
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This is actually pretty close except women being more likely to come clean, they'll more likely keep the truth as a weapon until it can do the most harm, like during some petty argument in front of your family she'll yell out that she sucked your friend Greg's dick while you were at work. Not so much coming clean as going scorched earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:33 PM
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Women only lie less because they don't have any firm beliefs or values. X thing is neither good nor bad, it either suits her then or it doesn't. In other words they lie to themselves and believe it. A woman could tell you she would love you forever and mean it. If you piss her off ten minutes later she'll tell you she hates your guts, and she means that to. There is no constant in women's lives
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:30 PM
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They don't lie because they convince themselves the lie is true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:26 PM
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But yeah, I didn't like that so I studied hard, didn't sleep to finish my portfolio, and find my first dream job. Men can do the same. And there's a man who did the same who can't work where you do because you work there. It's like 50 percent of the population of men are spread pretty equally in 100% of jobs. The other half of the population is only seeking 40% of the jobs. The result is there's less men in those jobs, and since all jobs need doing, men end up doing the shit work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:24 PM
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And I'm asking you if that sounds right? Men have an ability women don't, their strength. We agreed, for equality, they should not be legally able to do this. For the same reason we should agree abortion is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:21 PM
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Women are the only ones who can get pregnant, so abortions are only biologically available to her, seems as "fair" as it can get. It should be legal for men to beat up women because they were born with that ability and women weren't. That sound right to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:14 PM
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I find it odd women talk about the same opportunities when they don't give a fuck about becoming a garbage man or a construction worker. No men can have those icky jobs right? Let's get real. Women want the opportunity to work the jobs they want, and as a result places that are nice to work at become unceasingly filled with unqualified women because of gender quotas etc. While men end up working the shit jobs because someone has to! Equality? Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:08 PM
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Lying isn't unique to either sex. You're not making sense. Men don't enjoy the right to lie and women don't. Both can and do lie. That's equality!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:03 PM
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But men didn't decide that. You're saying since nature did x men should not have equal rights
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:58 PM
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It's not that they think 'I'll just get welfare" It's more like they just don't ever see any real consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:56 PM
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Statistically that's wrong. When we had less welfare there was less crime
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:53 PM
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No. Men are boys before they are men and women aren't allowed to beat up little boys either. No one is allowed to just beat someone. Equality! Yes I agree! Either both sexes should be allowed to do something or neither, equality! And again, we are specifically talking about men, and women who can give birth. Little girls can't give birth, and little boys can't beat up women like men, so neither is relevant to the convo correct? Now, to the actual topic which we were discussing. Care to admit men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:48 PM
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Lecturing someone really isn't the same as disagreeing. Or at least it can be different. I was trying to see where your limit was. In this scenario you can never say your husband is wrong or question him in front of others, but he'd listen to your concerns in private. That or everyone dies. Which would you take?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:44 PM
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False equivalence. Nope. Both sexes can beat up a weaker individual of the other and it's already illegal either way. Its legality is the point. Its not legal for men to beat up women even though they were born with the unique capacity to do so. So just because women were born with the ability to get pregnant shouldn't give them more rights! Glad we agree. Now on to the whole "people weaker than them" argument. The amount of men who would get beat up by the average woman is probably around the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:40 PM
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It could be beneficial for you both. Arguing constantly in front of your friends and family makes you lose the respect of your friends and family. So it would actually benefit you as well! And any disputes could be had in private! It can't work both ways, if you disagree he'd have to agree with you, but if he'd disagree you'd have to agree, so it would just be endless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:30 PM
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Attacking the person instead of the argument is adhom. Instead of addressing my points he implied that I had ulterior motives. That's adhom
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:24 PM
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I asked you a question. Is it fair that men beat up women simply because they biologically can?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:22 PM
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Ending your pregnancy ends your parental rights. If you had to pay the husband child support for 18 years after the abortion, that's equality. But if women don't want to do that they can abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:16 PM
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How would just removing yourself save society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:15 PM
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"Men have right to beat up women, if women could do it they'd have the right too, sadly they were born a certain way so they deserve less rights" That sounds right to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:12 PM
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Women have the right to abort any and all parental responsibility, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:09 PM
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So you're going to move an entire group of people a few miles out of town and think that's gonna change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:07 PM
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👌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:06 PM
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You're just moving goalposts so often it's pointless to continue this conversation. First you didn't shouldn't and wouldn't think about it. Then you did. Then you only did when you had the head space. And now you're claiming you never make any decisions that aren't logical. 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:05 PM
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So you'd let everyone die if say, you were expected to agree with your husband in p public and bring up disputes in private?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:54 PM
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I haven't been downvoting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:52 PM
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That's not making sense. What is logical about an emotional decision? Again. Logical thought : I don't want to speak to do x because y benefits me more. Illogical thought: I don't want to talk to them because I don't want to. So no, your decision to not speak to someone or label them creepy without a second thought is not a logical decision. In terms of using logic to reach that decision. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept. If you see a guy and label him creepy but there's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:52 PM
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It doesn't matter. Women have the right to end their parental responsibility, men don't. Therefore men have less rights. Yet you don't hear men saying they want to burn down society. But if women catch a whiff of being treated as men are, having less rights, the only logical thing in their eyes is to let the whole society die. Narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:47 PM
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No, as i stated, if i know I used logic I don't need to analyze why I had an emotional reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:46 PM
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Oh yes people only care about equality when it benefits them, which is why men gave women the right to vote, oh wait!? Why would it be relevant why someone doesn't like inequality? Isn't inequality wrong or only when it benefits women is it okay
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:45 PM
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How is adhominen a good point? Lmfao women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:43 PM
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That's the question. Its hypothetical. Would you lose a relatively few rights, like right to vote, so that everyone could live. Women seem to overwhelmingly think no. It doesn't matter why or how it happens. The choice has been laid before you. Aliens show up on earth and say they'll destroy America if women don't lose the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:35 PM
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I think you should always make the headspace, but I guess that's where/ why we disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:33 PM
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Abortion, gender quotas, child support alimony, the draft there's tons of examples of things that basically give women more rights. Women see this as fine. Yet here they claim any gender or individual having less rights should result in the whole thing burning down. Except when it favors them!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:32 PM
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Yet equal rights don't even exist currently in the favor of women yet no women on here care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:27 PM
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Oppression is too nebulous a term. How are you thinking oppression is being enacted? Some minorities think they are oppressed, should we tear down america?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:26 PM
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Its everyone flourishes, even the ones without a very small amount of rights or everyone dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:24 PM
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But if you don't everyone suffers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:20 PM
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A society that doesn’t give equal human rights to all of its citizens is not a society worth preserving. So today's society should fall or abortion should be outlawed? What you view as equality isn't actually equal. Minority quotas affirmative action gender quotas alimony abortion all of those things favor only the group they cater to and effectively grant them more rights. You have no problem with that, because it benefits you. I’d rather live in familial hunter/gatherer groups and go hungry mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:17 PM
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She has, she is ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:14 PM
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None of those things are involuntary reactions that are bound to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:10 PM
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I don't really see how. Its so odd that you keep bouncing back and forth between claiming you have reasons and observations, then claiming you don't. Understanding why you have certain knee jerk reactions is incredibly important to understanding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure those Brazilian organ traffickers can value people for just their parts, do they suddenly care about the kids they're kidnapping and murdering? They are literally removing the organ lmfao. Rapists value women's vaginas, do they value their victim as a person? Women can't understand that your accomplishments are not who you are, that's what you've done. Going to college isn't who you are. Your job isn't who you are. Who you are is what you would be stranded on a desert island with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 07:23 PM
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I'm saying there's an emotional and a logical point. I don't want to do x, because I don't want to. That's emotional. I don't want to do x because y would benefit me more. That's logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 07:16 PM
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You can't separate your vagina from you. Your vagina is a part of you. If you're valued for your vagina you're valued for who you are. You're talking about accomplishments which is what you do not who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:26 PM
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But not solely emotional logic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:23 PM
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False. It's women cheating that carries the "he wasn't man enough to please her" far far far more often. This is because men value women for who they are, not based on a "what have you done for me lately" attitude that women have. Because men are judged on their accomplishments, it is assumed he is lacking, because women are valued for their vaginas, they are valued inherently by their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:50 AM
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Only the ones I am using emotional logic on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:24 AM
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It's just as logical as them being so caring about the people they are going to devastate by killing themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:19 AM
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What do you mean catch you? They weren't chasing you they were following you. If they try to put their hands on you, spray them, duh But you said you'd spraythem for following, not touching you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:18 AM
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I think it's actually a form of vanity. Women want to be beautiful even in death
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:02 AM
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You can't just walk up to someone, pepper spray them and call the police and say you did it in self defense and have them believe you though How would they know you were telling the truth? Why would your word men more than the guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:58 AM
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you're talking a world of women who are virtually never having sex. There'd just be more couples than single sluts. The men who get sex every now and then going completely without, and the men who get sex frequently going largely without if not entirely. Why wouldn't they just have a gf? Imagine a full world of men who are not having sex, virtually at all. FDS teaches to limit sex even in relationships to a minimum. Men are going to get frustrated. Huh I didn't know fds said not to fuck your man…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:55 AM
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Assault people if you want, you'll be the one going to jail. They'll simply say they weren't following you or talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:39 AM
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I didn't mean that I'm just saying if you're worried about people following you you're going to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:36 AM
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And men don't care for this new breed of hyper masculine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:29 AM
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I think a healthy attitude towards sex is one that shames promiscuity because of the health risks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:19 AM
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I mean, it's hard to know to what extent they just were happening to go your direction but in general people are allowed to go where they please
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:18 AM
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And some girls call guys tiny dicked without even having seen their junk so idk what your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:10 AM
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Not fully traditional, but promiscuity would strongly decrease, and rape would increase. Why would rape increase? Red pill is not pro rape Hopefully we would just die off as a species entirely You'd rather the entire species die than go traditional? This is hyperbole right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:09 AM
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You have to just reject a guy to be called a slut and you might be just pretty enough for some guy to create a deep fake with you. And ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:05 AM
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Why not answer the question I asked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:04 AM
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As I've already said, IF the alphas were to unite the betas would. Normally probably not until it gets really really bad. But the point is, if it actually came down to the two fighting betas would unite and wrecked house And I don't see why you keep taking this to 1 on 1 its irrelevant to the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:03 AM
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Is them discussing how they'd dick you free speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:00 AM
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You want prohibiting free speech,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 11:53 PM
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Okay. Are you suggesting that one alpha is going to beat up all the betas?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:46 PM
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Debatable but in general yeah no shit that's not the discussion we're having though is it? The discussion was about whether alphas or betas would win if there was a massive brawl. And betas would win because life isn't a movie and 90% of any population would kill 10%. Hell 90% of all women grouped up would probably beat ten percent of the male population. 90% of midgets would win. 90% of the population composed entirely if determined 12 year olds might even stand a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:43 PM
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You're not making sense. Alphas don't have enough strength individually to kill 90% of the population, they'd have to organize for a better chance. But then betas would organize too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:25 PM
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Yes we all know it's impossible to fake Instagram profiles and use photos hop. Oh wait ..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:22 PM
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If alphas organized so would betas. Why are you behaving as if alphas are already coordinating this secret beta attack? Bottom line is it's 10% of the population vs the other 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:17 PM
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You do though? If it came down to it. If there were some war where the 10% of men who were alpha tried to kill the other 90% they would fail. The 90% wouldn't wait around to be killed because covid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:05 PM
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And I've already pointed out that it's actually not beta to be concerned about a disease
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:58 PM
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What? Then alphas get covid and die? You're not making sense. In general if it became alphas vs betas, betas would win hands down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:48 PM
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Of course they can, there's more betas than alphas and strength in numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:46 PM
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But sometimes I’m just not in the mood—like every human, and no I don’t go home and think about if it was my mood or that person. Why not though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:11 PM
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Not in the legal sense. Real life isn't the human resources department
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 07:00 PM
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See the strange thing about this comment is it contradicts your previous comment where you said you just trusted your gut and you shouldn't have to analyze the way you feel. In this comment you showed analysis that you claimed you didn't and wouldn't and shouldn't have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:59 PM
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Which is why I said generally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 03:25 PM
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About a much a hobby as looking at new and novel websites
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:51 AM
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I'm more speaking generally. Women are the ones who say they don't care about n count and men shouldn't either despite studies showing them increase in cheating likelihood. So when a guy cheats, he never hid his n count, women did, so women knew the increased risk, men didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:31 PM
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1 in 4 isn't a real stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:06 PM
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You're right but not for the reasons you listed. If a man is hawt women simply purposely overlook any red flags. Take promiscuity and it's effect on cheating. Women don't care if men have high n count, yet men do. Therefore women lie, and men don't. Therefore women know what they are getting into, and men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:17 PM
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Did you read the part of the post where that occurring is comparably frequent as being struck by lightning?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:14 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 06:03 AM
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So if you flashed a guy your clit you wouldn't say you showed him your vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:53 AM
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Why are women so weird? When one refers to the clit colloquially they are talking about the glans. Yet women are rabid for trying to correct men and pretend they just don't know anatomy. It's like if you called a penis a dick and I corrected you and said it was called penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:52 AM
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I think he's saying although sex is a need it's not anyone's responsibility to provide it to others. Food is a need but it isn't free
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:47 AM
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Then why are women constantly complaining about lack of stimulation from piv
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:29 AM
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He's obviously talking about the glans
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:27 AM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:25 AM
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It doesn't mean asking someone over either though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:19 AM
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I think it would be more accurate to say he was trying to, sometimes succeeding and others failing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:05 AM
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Men don't mind if ugly girls ogle them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 04:03 AM
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It really is though because sexual harassment has to be overtly and obviously sexual It can't just be they looked at you a way you didn't like once
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:52 AM
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We don't call it murder unless somebody is murdered. You thinking they almost did something is just that. No crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:51 AM
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If it's not obvious it's not harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:00 AM
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You did run. Whether you had to or not is impossible to know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:00 AM
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By what criteria? Following then around the bus and asking them over isn't sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:44 AM
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Yet you remain safe!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:59 AM
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But those who he actually abused were surely lower than the amount he attempted to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:58 AM
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if you’re coming off creepy and I politely reject your advances, it’s not my job to go home and evaluate why I ignored them. Why did they come off creepy to you? You honestly don't believe that could be an irrational reaction? And again, I've already said you can behave however you want, but only you can be honest with yourself. Does creepy just mean not handsome to you? That might be something to work on. Does it mean not dressed well? Speaks in a strange way? What qualified them as creepy to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:30 PM
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Every adult needs to analyze they're emotions on an intellectual level in order to be an adult. The differencebetween a child and adult is the ability to supress or redirect emotions that aren't logical or helpful. I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to irrational emotions if that's what you want. What I am saying is that you should recognize you are doing so instead of believing this behavior is logical. For instance, if i get upset at what someone says during a convo, should I just react, with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:47 PM
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It is your job to evaluate your own knee jerk reactions. Who else's would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 03:01 PM
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I don't see how refusing to tell him would prevent him from interrogating you further
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:48 AM
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Well you certainly shouldn't assume your knee jerk reactions are true. You have to examine why you feel they are creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 03:10 AM
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Never enjoyed any of those things. Wristies? Hand jobs are fucking awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:00 PM
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If your partner is a woman it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:00 PM
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Men being able to see the beauty in people doesn't mean they are more horny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:52 PM
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Trust me, men don't care about hand stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:50 PM
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Obviously that's false men don't have complexities when it comes to sex in general
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:42 PM
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Well is it a huge inconvenience?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:38 PM
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Because it's not so simple as just caring and often requires a very complex sequence of events
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:35 PM
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Men give no fucks about hand stuff lol Practice oral skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:34 PM
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Chad doesn't care about assertive women and may actively dislike them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:28 PM
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I don't think we have any hard data on that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 04:15 AM
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They apparently like it enough to do it with other guys! This is what i said. Guys. Plural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:19 AM
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This is just hysterics. We're talking about a person who did it with frequency not just a person who tried it once
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 12:39 AM
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But for what? Why endure the hurt of nobody is getting pleasure? That makes no logical sense. "In order for you to do something that you'd get pleasure out of, I want to do it to you but get nothing out of it" That's not the same at all. One is simply malicious, pain for pains sake. In the other the pain is an unfortunate byproduct of his pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 12:38 AM
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At least four historians have contradicted Maines argument, the person cited heavily in the paper you linked. And more than that say she was right. That's what you seem to keep leaving out. Not only did not provide sufficient evidence, Doesn't mean it was debunked. but misenpertated quotes to fit her hypothesis, Still doesn't mean debunked. poorly translated passages, used shoddy citations to prove her point and painted her work as being ‘factual’ only to backtrack to claiming it was all an hypo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 08:57 PM
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Or any problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 08:08 PM
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And? I don't see what you're trying to prove. You're saying the two scientists you agree with think this Rachel Maines is wrong. I'm saying that most historians don't think that. You don't understand what debunked means. They are saying this Rachel Maines doesn't provide sufficient evidence. That's not debunking anything. Debunking is saying x thing has been PROVEN wrong. Not saying there isn't enough evidence for x.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 07:18 PM
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They apparently like it enough to do it with other guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:52 PM
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Pegging isn't sex for a woman. There is no reason it would bring her pleasure. Anal feels good on a man's dick. Pegging is just doing it to do it. Not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:51 PM
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https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/medical-vibrators-treatment-female-hysteria#:~:text=After%20the%20Western%20Industrial%20Revolution,term%20for%20a%20female%20orgasm. Here is an example
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:03 PM
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That's irrelevant would you stay with a man who wanted to spend 0 dollars on you wouldn't take you out and said he used to spoil his exes? You and I both know you wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:41 PM
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Yes pretty much. I cant imagine being with a guy who tells me he hates PIV sex and then not caring about him so much that I push for him to still do it. You're viewing this as if hating piv sex is a reasonable thing to dislike. Its not. Given that it's not, it's reasonable to try to get them to try it again. Like trying broccoli. You eat broccoli once as a kid you might determine you hate broccoli. But people who try and get you to eat broccoli aren't disrespectful people who hate you lmfao. Try…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:23 PM
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Either stay or break up. Those are the only two options lol. If its important to me then I still wouldnt want to do it with someone who doesnt like it and just does it for my sake. Never. This just doesn't make sense. Do you want your man to come with you to a funeral or something? He doesn't know the person, just someone you knew. In this case, it will not be enjoyable for him. But he'll do it for you i don't understand how that's so wrong. People in couples do things for each other that they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:57 PM
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Yeah fuck that..I would not want to be pleasured by someone who feels uncomfortable or humiliated in the process. So if piv sex makes him uncomfortable you'll stay with him without that I know many guys who get the most pleasure when the girl is loving it (and vice versa), I'll stick to that type over some moron who would be happy to push the girl into doing something she finds humiliating. Gross If the woman finds piv sex gross what should he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:51 PM
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That's just such a vacuous explanation, and I suspect purposely so. Women use this excuse to give them an out. Unless you can make me feel x way I won't be in the mood. But I can't force you to feel x way. And there's no surefire fix. The thing I do on Monday that makes you feel x way may not again on Tuesday. So you set up this system where men have to keep one upping themselves and constantly be scrambling to think of ways to try and force you to feel x. Doesn't that sound exhausting? Like if …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:48 PM
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i think these men need to ask themselves what they need to do better to get her more excited for him. Why does the woman hold no responsibility in their sexual relationship? i've known men who resorted to "reminding" their wives that fucking them is their wifely duty instead of figuring out how to be irresistible to her. Why would they have to do that? Doesn't their wife have any responsibility to keep the sexual flame alive? In your opinion sex is a thing that only happens when the man provides…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:41 PM
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Seems like a very its bad because I sayso argument and you don't do doggy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:30 PM
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Yeah it's so crazy that men would want you to pleasure them even if it's not specifically for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:29 PM
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Oh come the fuck on you would not be happy with that arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:25 PM
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Men are simply more varied than women by every criteria so it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:24 PM
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The issue here is they do it for some guys and not for others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:23 PM
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Even if we take those into account, then you're suggesting there's more romance cover model men than there are non fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:20 PM
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Nothing has been debunked. We have 2 historians disagreeing with the rest and the theories of a psychologist that is now treated as somewhat of a joke due to his theories. That's simply not compelling evidence in the face of the other 98% of historians saying it did happen and the existence of actual physical devices that would not exist if you were right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:17 PM
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What? I'm simply stating many of freuds concepts have been debunked. Can we agree this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:13 PM
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A similar amount of evidence exists that they weren't lying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:46 AM
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We know people lie. It's not a debatable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:06 AM
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No. It’s well documented, and written down in his notes that his patients disclosed sexual abuse from family members to him. How do we know if that's true? We know people lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 07:50 PM
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What are you basing this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 07:48 PM
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Sorry, but no, women are not in fact responsible for men’s bad choices. I never claimed they were. Someone’s mom being a ho doesn’t absolve them of personal responsibility for the crimes they choose to commit, and neither does growing up poor, with bad role models, or even being abused. Yet we can see this leads to increased criminality and wedo nothing to stop it. There are certain things we just don’t do no matter the hand we’re dealt. Its very clear you're not understanding me. I never said d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 07:47 PM
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The first link is hidden behind a pay wall and the second is just some random. There's no way to prove you'd definitively, because psych is a pseudo scienceat best and relies on people self reporting honestly. And we know people aren't always honest. Freud theorized a link between neuroticism and sexual abuse, but in modern times we know women naturally are more neurotic so he was just trying to explain that phenomenon through his interpretations without knowing there was a biological component
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 05:35 PM
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2 historians who disagree with all the rest? I'm not saying I know better than those 2 I'm saying 2 in the face of the whole is unconvincing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 05:31 PM
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Meh I'm unconvinced. I've seen several of these devices as well as literature related to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:51 PM
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There's no hard evidence of this either way and many of freuds speculations have been debunked already so it's not really definitive evidence of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:49 PM
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No, it was a catch all term to medicalise women who either did stuff that wasn't approved Like being a cunt of (basically anything involving having thoughts, opinions or creativity) Completely fucking false lmfao. or were miserable about having shit lives they had no say in. And reacted by behaving like a cunt It wasn't really anything to do with sexual repression, though I mean... people of that era were pretty sexually repressed in general. False. When asked what treatment they best felt helpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:16 PM
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Yeah it was just a way to say women were being insufferable cunts, you know, like men who are rejected for years get very edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:02 PM
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Women also know they can get sex on tap, so they are more likely to abstain. For example, if you didn't know when your next meal would come, if it did, then you'd eat every bite you could. If you knew you were going to have the opportunity to eat more later, you'd be more likely to skip a meal and not worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:50 PM
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And they are likely masturbating with a tool similar to the one the doctor used to treat hysteria (women being miserable cunts) that's the point. Without the release of orgasm, women start going insane just like men. Women also know they can get sex on tap, so they are more likely to abstain. For example, if you didn't know when your next meal would come, if it did, then you'd eat every bite you could. If you knew you were going to have the opportunity to eat more later, you'd be more likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:34 PM
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In short, because we don’t (with some exceptions) base laws on “what if’s” and statistical probabilities. What exceptions at we referring to? And let's do a thought experiment. A certain percentage of people would not be harmed if a weaker person punched them. Yet the weaker person punching them is still illegal. How is that any different? So a child from a single parent household is more likely to grow up to commit violence. And live in poverty, have low iq and mental issues, and commit other c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:30 PM
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They used to hispitalize women for hysteria and cured them with a vibrator
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:11 PM
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I think the post assumes he is doing things with you in public
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 12:58 AM
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Wait hold up, what I’m suggesting should perhaps be more accepted (consensual and controlled non-monogamy as opposed to the affairs that happen and always have) isn’t single motherhood. No but that is what it leads to. Nowhere have I said I think women should have unprotected sex with all the dudes and have a bunch of fatherless kids. Yet we can see in current day that lack of strict monogamy produces single mothers. That’s a pretty big leap to make. Hardly, it's supported by every piece of evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 10:35 PM
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So basically, all I see that we disagree on is that you think monogamy is a moral good like not committing sexual assault is a moral good. Exactly. Because although monogamy may not be natural, it’s for the best. Is that correct? Yes. I can see why monogamy is often a positive thing especially before birth control was widespread and effective (not that that ever stopped people from cheating). The rise in single motherhood is producing impoverished criminal children disproportionately. I don’t th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:21 PM
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I never said i didn't know the study fam
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:12 PM
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You can be a functional adult and be a dick too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:01 PM
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What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:00 PM
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Well in this scenario he's already being ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:59 PM
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It hasn't been picked apart at all if anything it's been proven multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:54 PM
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That is not at all what it said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:44 PM
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Oh so that's why women find 80% of men unattractive! Oh wait, nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:16 PM
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That's not very logical. Its unreasonable to want exaggerated features when you have plain ones. Its not hypergamy for a man who's a 7 to want a 7. Itv is hypergamy when all female 7s want 9 or 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:17 PM
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Because physical violence has no place in a cultured society. Neither do chad harems? The way it is now is anything but civilized. If you wanted to go by physical strength then the same men who are the top 10% now and gets girls on dating aps or whatever and women choose to have casual sex with would still have the greatest advantage. False. Women choose for pretty men. The strongest and toughest men are very very rarely also the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:57 PM
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Again, I already pointed out that I'm disputing the idea that women are the victims of violence from their partners more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:46 PM
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When as many men are being killed, raped or hospitalized by their dates or intimate partners, I will consider it equal. You're talking about equality of outcome not equality of action. the meantime, I can just scroll through the news to see for myself just how much of threat men totally aren’t to women Right. So you've never seen any stories of women killing men? Attacking maiming and cutting off their dicks only to have women laugh about it on national television? Violence against women is over…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:45 PM
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If that were true, sure. But it's not. Women want sex just as much provided their incredibly inflated egos are satiated by being pumped and dumped by chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:40 PM
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How do we know most rape victims don't report? Oh right, because more women claim to have been raped than those who come forward. So we end up back at my comment again. I don't buy it. Women love to be victims and love to mislabel things rape if it benefits them in the way of sympathize
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:39 PM
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That isn't really relevant to the reality of the situation. You're basically admitting that you know the fear you hold is irrational but you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:37 PM
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The advantage for women exists from the biological fact that men are less selective when seeking sexual partners 🤷‍♀️ And again, men have the biological fact that they are stronger. We outlawed them using that strength Why do we not outlaw womens advantages? Why is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:36 PM
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Funny how your own example betrays you. Men just want not fat. Women want the cover model of a romance novel. Glad you at least know women's standards are broken
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:34 PM
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Hypergamy USED to mean that when people actually settled down and the divorce rate wasn't sky high. Now it justmeans they want better. Better is relative. In a group full of superstar actors or sports players what is best? See what I mean? If they always go for the best, and all men improve themselves, womens standards will just rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:33 PM
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hypergamy means women never satisfied. Use the logic you claim to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:52 PM
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Men obviously care about women. Check all of recorded history. The other way around? Women don't give a fuck about anything but tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:51 AM
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Female violence is less severe than male violence. Because they are weaker. A man preforming the same action would cause more harm, but that's saying we should judge people based on the way they were born. So you'd be a racist with that logic. I haven’t heard of many lesbians killing their partners You honestly don't believe that happens? or gunning down a dozen high school students after being rejected. Oh come the fuck on. Honestly, you're trying to say school shootings are one of the issues w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:49 AM
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The arrest rates are far higher than the conviction rates, in any other crime it would be assumed this meant false or erroneous accusations. The number of women who claim to have been raped is quite high, doesn't match conviction or arrest rates. They would have you believe this is because werman scurred, those same strong independent women who want to be treated like equals, don't even report a crime like rape? I don't buy it. Women are stronk nowadays and will call rape for things that wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:43 AM
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I don't think that's true. Less than 1% of men are rapists to my knowledge. 100% of sharks bite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:26 AM
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So the risk of pregnancy isn't a thing women worry about in dating? So I assume you mean violence then, yet lesbian couples highest rates of dv, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:22 AM
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Well considering the rape rate being incredibly low its like being concerned putting your toe in the ocean will lead to a shark attack
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:20 AM
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Isn't one of the risks for women pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:19 AM
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I would if I saw any woman actually pausing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:16 AM
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Risks are roughly equal, because of daddy government. You get 9 months of labor, man gets 18 years of wage slaving to pay for the kid you shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:16 AM
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But men didn't force that on you, nature did. Nature said men could do whatever they want to you because they have more strength We outlawed that advantage. Why do we not outlaw the advantages of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:15 AM
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In what fucking fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:13 AM
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How dare men want equality which is what women pretended would happen when they got all their demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:13 AM
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Are you suggesting men let bad people be and just mind their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:12 AM
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Domestic violence rates are about equal according to self reported surveys. Higher in lesbian couples than in gay or heterosexual couples. Why is this such a persistent myth? The orgasm gap dissappears when you account fur the fact that the female orgasm is multiples more intense than males. So 1 to 1 orgasms from male to female would be an imbalance in the favor of women. The only point you have is the thirst imbalance, created by women and the sexual revolution and cultivated carefully by wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:11 AM
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Doesn't seem to give women any pause at all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:08 AM
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I'd argue the better half of those 2 hours were just neurosis and didn't actually improve her appearance from an outside perspective. What it did do was inflate her ego and expectations far more than it did anything for her visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:07 AM
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Yes, we do have artificial (or sometimes more advanced/complex) paths to natural things like eating and reproduction these days. Sitting in an office is not natural, but in our current state we aren’t cut out to be hunter/gatherers either. I'd argue were more cut out for that than office work, regardless, the point i was trying to make was that what is natural is not always observed any longer, and that humans sometimes are and can be forced to ignore their nature. We’ve attempted to make life e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:04 AM
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Wonens hyperinflation standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:09 PM
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I mean work is a means to an end, which is eating. But consider the method of getting what you need to eat can be natural or unnatural. Hunting is natural, office work is not. Marriage, hookups, and various kinds of relationships are also means to different ends, including but not limited to sex, offspring, companionship, and financial security. Yes but as before we currently have an artificial path to these things just like eating. If you are trying to purpose that which is natural or closest i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:08 AM
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Yes. Overarching is real
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 03:52 AM
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It's not natural to work in the purest sense of the word unless you're a hunter or maybe a farmer but I'd argue not even farming is an instinctual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:31 AM
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Depends on whether you need surgery or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:06 AM
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I would submit that men certainly do not. Working 8 hours a day ain't natural, but we do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 01:47 AM
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Why is what is natural relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 01:03 AM
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Oh yeah they wouldn't outlaw fake marriage if it wasn't common? That's a terrible argument. Of course they would even if they heard about it once. What work are we talking about? Basket weaving and laundry? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 10:13 PM
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That's a hysterical point of view that portrays the most negative potential problems ignoring that as a whole it was basically the opposite for the vast majority
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 09:56 PM
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I'm not seeing it tagged as a discussion thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 08:52 PM
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Oookay. It seems to me women on this sub don't really care to debate as much as the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:31 PM
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Sure but even then it's using higher thought to stop an instinctual action though right? And humans didn't have crimes for murder until they decided they should, so it seems left to their own devices without penalty for murder the reaction is to create a penalty for murder. Or are you suggesting rational thought overcoming instincts can only happen with a hardline threat of consequence? In which case would it not be the most moral thing to create consequences for behaving on instinct for example…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:26 PM
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How do you explain the fact that the vast majority of men aren't murderers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:14 PM
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You don't believe humans are capable of using higher thought to deny their baser instincts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:07 PM
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The second one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:07 PM
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Apparently not to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 06:41 PM
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Most men don't feel secure enough to open up to their partners, or anyone in general. Because it dries women up, and you get accused of needing to be coddled for expecting an iota of the understanding women get every moment of every day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 06:32 PM
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What evidence do we have this is true? And even if it were, isn't that an appeal to nature argument? Just because it isn't the natural way (if that's the case) doesn't mean it shouldn't be the norm Are we not beings with higher thought and logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 06:17 PM
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Hysteria was a catch all term for anything ranging from women acting like obnoxious bitches to being literally institutionalized. They weren't truly going insane, just being cunts. Kinda goes to show how shitty women are if they don't get their way. Women just need clitoral stimulation. It's not some mystery to be solved by sluttery
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:51 PM
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That still has nothing to do with the very rare event of spousal homicide
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:26 PM
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Yup. Female sexuality is complex. Wanting to fuck strange people is the opposite of complex. It's a very instinctual and thoughtless thing to do. In my opinion, it requires about 3 type of characters (of which 2 mandatory) before you are able to enjoy sex. Character1 teaches consent/confidence in sex, character2 teaches submission/it's ok to not be in control and character3 is something inbetween. You usually don't find those 3 into 1 guy. All of that is just nonsense post hoc justification. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:25 PM
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I disagree but it isn't relevant to the question. It's very rare for women to be killed by their spouse, so it wouldn't make sense for that to be a reason the average woman takes a break up worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:52 PM
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Women kill their male partners too, why is this being meaninglessly gendered? And people killing their s.o.s is being addressed via prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:16 PM
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Because chastity = 0 until you. What does that even mean? Imagine being able to fuck loads of girls, but someone says you are worthless if you fuck even 1. Imagine going through puberty and have someone wanna hop on your dick and you want to fuck them so badly (hormones at all), but not allowed because of a guy you haven't even met wants to marry you pure. I'm imagining it, doesn't seem hard all it requires is inaction. It would take more effort to do it than not Also, imo it's a total obstructi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:14 PM
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I think it's like car accidents but even less common. You don't stop driving because you could potentially get in an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:07 PM
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We weren't talking about acceptable. High would denote that it was extremely common, which it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:49 PM
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Just like men asking for chastity. That's a pretty damn ask, Why is not squatting on every Chadcock you see so hard? would you expect it to be exchanged for something easy? Is extremely easy to not fuck other people. It literally takes so effort. Just don't. That is all. Also it's not just women that have the love language of receiving gifts, I'm the one buying flowers for my so This whole love language thing is nonsense. OMG, 10bucks of flowers 4 times a years...40 bucks. 50 if we had kids. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:46 PM
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If that's what they need to feel loved in the relationship, that's our type of commitment. So women are shit. Also...flowers are dirt cheap? Constant flowers would add up. After there was no relationship left to stay for. False. They want to monkey branch to a better relationship and they purposely kill the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:24 PM
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So men keep bringing up their way of committal, while if you were to visit the divorce subs, you'll notice a difference between the men and women thinking of divorce. And ? The women typically ask for marriage councelling (going is our type of commitment) False. Maybe they ask more than men but it's certainly not the case that the majority of women do this. and the men call it unneeded. Because society is gynocentric. Counselors are default pro female. The women typically ask the men to re-start…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:58 PM
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Mainstream "hate" on men, punching up, A meaningless phrase. It doesn't matter if you think another group has it better, hate is hate. is extremely mild Nonsense. On Twitter you can see women talking about the need to abort all male children. and society accepts it bc Because what's the alternative? Jailing women? men continue to abuse their position Lmfao ooookay and go extremely dark for stupid shit like getting turned down for a date. Whereas women just kill their children. This fragility Poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:54 PM
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The reason is obvious. Women hate on men is mainstream, so of course you're going to find more hate for women than the opposite on anonymous forums, women are allowed to spew their hate on twitter, men are not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:49 PM
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Oh, come on. How can a commitment made voluntarily be worse than one made because survival would be much more difficult to impossible without it? Because women are terrible at choosing good men voluntarily, single motherhood is awful for children and is a direct result of women choosing. The only good way to have a woman is via exploiting her situation? If anything you're both being exploited
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:26 PM
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The rates are not high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 02:21 PM
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Well, that's good, but it still does matter re: earning potential or the likelihood of receiving more money or another house. No that's irrelevant to the price of the house If that's all the money you're ever going to get, it's going to make a big difference in what you're willing to pay for the house. Do you want a house or do you not? Vice versa if you're selling. Huh? AND if it's not, that changes things again. BUT for a woman, the value of her chastity as is gone the moment she agrees to let…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:26 PM
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Cheating husbands don't leave unless they get booted because no matter what they think about the kids, all their stuff's there and hey, free maid service. Or because they value their families lmfao. This is so nutty, Sam. So stop it. Wasn't his oath to be faithful and love and take care of her? Sure, but wasn't it ALSO to stay forever? Women will cheat and leave, they effectively break their oath twice where men break it once. Do you honestly include sneaky sex with other woman as part of this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:21 PM
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You used cheating and staying as an example of "even in that situation, we're commited". I qualified it as MORE committed, men are more committed. Even in the case that both partners cheat, the man will stay and the woman will leave But that's a different type of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:20 PM
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So commitment to keep putting effort into keeping the relationship alive. Your stance is it can't last so why try and make any effort for a ltr and you're saying this about men? Cheating breaks up the relationship, even if you don't literally leave, so that's not the type of commitment we want. And that's why I said That's not to say you should be happy for a cheating husband, Then I qualified with but at least it shows that husbands value their oaths, women do not. Women will cheat AND LEAVE TH…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 06:48 AM
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So it's not possible to be lazy and successful? I feel like that's a fallacious thought process
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 04:11 AM
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Guarantee that was just a smokescreen attention grabbing tactic and if chad told her she was ugly she'd have a mental breakdown
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 04:09 AM
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Dread game still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:04 AM
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But the value of the money and the house aren't established. I mean, for the analogy to work they would be. Houses don't go on the market with a ? Under the sales price. Is this all the money the person will ever have? Is this the only house? Of course not to either. The biggest changes in society have been around women being able more and more often to get their own money and house. To the detriment of all, provably. The chastity trade-off is giving up years of sex and then knowing the moment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:03 AM
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But the value of the money and the house aren't established. I mean, for the analogy to work they would be. Houses don't go on the market with a ? Under the sales price. Is this all the money the person will ever have? Is this the only house? Of course not to either. The biggest changes in society have been around women being able more and more often to get their own money and house. To the detriment of all, provably. The chastity trade-off is giving up years of sex and then knowing the moment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:03 AM
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Based on: I can do more. So you believe all men are recognized and allowed to live up to their full potential? Based on: if a boss who doesn't know me yet, sees me sitting in a closed meeting, there are several times where they have tried to dismiss me. But you believe this is based on you being a female because...? You realize handsome men are treated better than ugly ones, get promotions that the ugly men deserve more etc. So why is it you believe all men have it easier when ugly men face the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:48 AM
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There's no reason to believe commitment is temporary other than the way women view it though. Men even if they do cheat overwhelmingly don't leave. That's not to say you should be happy for a cheating husband, but at least it shows that husbands value their oaths, women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:30 AM
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You keep alluding to some context I'm not getting, why is it impossible to you that maybe you're not presenting your arguments in a way that's understandable? I've asked you the question several times. You claim you want equality and you aren't treated equally and you won't get married because it's unequal. I'm asking you, how is it any new unequalthan your current level of inequality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:33 PM
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I think that if I were a man, I'd be doing more. Based on what? By your own admission you have a high level position at your company that men would like to have, yet you have it. How does it make sense to assume that you'd be doing more when some men can't even get to your position? If men are given more respect logically you shouldn't have your job, a less qualified man would. It's called charity. Women are a charity cause. And the people who donate to charity find it valuable to do so! How abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:31 PM
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Chastity for chastity That isn't a logical answer. How does not getting married make you more equal than you currently are? Assuming you're unmarried. And maybe it's ok if they matter, if it also matters for you. I'm asking you if you believe women care despite all the evidence? I never said it couldn't or shouldn't matter on an individual basis. I'm arguing that women as a whole don't care and that's not men's fault. If women as a whole demanded chastity that would be provided and that would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:22 PM
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I am doing that, doesn't change anything. Because I'm not treated like a child because I'm getting free money. You are I'm getting free money because I'm considered a child. Or because you're inherently valued for who you are vs what you do. I work as a 'fixer'. My company buys up simular companies, I get send there, to optimize their work method ('fixing'). The first thing my boss has to do, every single time, is repeat about a thousand times, how skilled I am. This is completely irrelevant. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:14 PM
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Maybe equal treatment makes the deal worthwhile, even if the content isn't that attractive. But you've said already you're not treated as equal. How does not getting married change that? Are you arguing that women want chastity from men? In a relationship or just in general? The deal is not and never was "men need to be chaste before marriage" Women simply don't care. Look at any post here or literally anywhere, women are the ones preaching previous n counts shouldnt matter despite all the evide…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:08 PM
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Your potential children's well being < squatting in random vagina's? Women don't select for chastity, therefore your point here is nonsense. Being more chaste makes you less attractive as a man, more attractive as a woman The fact that women don't have behavioral standards for their partners isn't men's fault ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:44 PM
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Money money money money (what women get just by excisting). Yes because when you didn't get it for free you called it oppression, then when you get it for free suddenly it doesn't matter? Money gets you what you want, it shouldn't be what you want. I agree. And what women want, things like being valued equally, Nope they want preferential treatment we are not getting for the same reason why we get money for excisting. *existing. And I don't understand your point. Because you get money for existi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:40 PM
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Still not a good deal? Your child having double the resources isn't a good deal in return for you not being a slut. Your potential children's well being < squatting on random dicks? Why does me having been chaste matter more? More than what? And we were discussing a good deal, why are we suddenly dragging kids into this as if I would be the only one out of us two wanting them? What? Part of a marriage is children in the vast majority. So when marrying these are things you should be considered in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:26 PM
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Read the post first, then comment I read your post. I quoted you directly. Why not explain ? Opposite world now. Women are a net negative on taxes and the highest beneficiaries of welfare simultaneously. Society gives them the most and expects the least in return. How is that not a place of privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:13 PM
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I have my own resources nowadays. Cool, I have more. And even if I didn't it would still be 2 incomes vs one for any offspring we have, that's a huge advantage. Not saying that you offered something bad, but you are kinda offering more of what I already have in exchange for completely abstaining from sex with anyone else until I'm married so that that person ends up being the only man I'm sleeping with. Oh shit, you're saying you're own tingles matter more than giving your children advantages? D…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 10:10 PM
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You're blaming female-kind for long ago choices they did not make - they weren't choices at all. So you're saying hypergamy being women's nature is the fault of men so expecting women to behave like rational human beings and civilized creatures with logical thought is wrong because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:40 PM
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You are the man, I have chastity. What would you give in return? Access to my resources. Or would you drop chastity for something else in return? No. Yes... relationships that are shitty in public, get better in privacy... Uhuh. More like people love to paint themselves as the victim to others. Except safety is a biological urge for women and this feeling makes sure that a woman can't settle. You'd be safer in a marriage than as a divorcee though?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:37 PM
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Context matters. Commitment is a two way street And chastity isn't, so why would chastity for commitment be a good deal for us? Here is the context, it makes no sense what you're saying. Are you suggesting men cheat more? Or that men caring about n count is wrong? I don't understand what point you're trying to make because it's not being articulated clearly not because I don't understand context. Didn't you just say that commitment is a 2-way street? Yes, but committing to a woman for literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:35 PM
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If by 'you', you mean 'my generation'. Correct. False, you just said you know more people who should divorce than do, plus why would it matter how many people agree with you? And that's why we are not accepting the commitment for chastity deal. What deal are you proposing instead? Infinite sluttery whole daddy government foots the bill via taxes from men? So you want men to pay for women's sluttery and get nothing in return because....? They're miserable Maybe they'd be more miserable alone? May…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:30 PM
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And chastity isn't, so why would chastity for commitment be a good deal for us? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm blaming the RP men on this sub (so a very specific group of men, not all men), for still clinging too 'chastity for commitment'. That's why we got to this point. Or women expecting commitment for literally nothing got us here. Followed by blaming women.. Are you not speaking for women here? I'm saying that based on your attitude its clearly not men who are in the wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:25 PM
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When we say commitment, it's not just literally "don't leave", it's a good relationship+"don't leave". Commitment is a two way street, blaming the man for the lack of a good relationship is nonsense. The good relationship stops the moment the ring is slid on. Why? Commitment is a poisoned apple. And women are the ones that poison it and then say "why would anyone want to eat an apple they are all poison" Stop poisoning the apples lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:17 PM
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Because it's not easy for a woman to leave. Because they don't feel the relationship is broken, YOU do. You practically have to push them out the door to get them to leave. Proving that you're wrong. Call it biology or whatever, Call it what it is, them not wanting to leave because they want to stay married! But women spend an ungodly amount of time trying to fix the unfixable, followed by trying to deal with it internally. Or, it's not unfixable. This is a ton of hamstering. Women know that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:14 PM
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You look at women divorcing men and see women leaving men. Yes, that is the only thing you can draw from the stats. I look at divorce statistics and think of all the women I know, that should divorce because they're in a bad relationship but don't. So you look at a stat and then you decide you feel like the stat isn't accurate? Feels over reals? So they aren't even a part of that statistic. How is that relevant? How do you know their relationship is so bad they should divorce and if it's objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:52 PM
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Women are initiating divorces, not men. It's women who's commitment is temporary or fake based on stats. You're saying you don't want to commit to men because women's commitment is fake
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:43 PM
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Firstly, I don't belief real commitment excists anymore. Oof. I have access to the same divorce statistics as you. So my value of commitment is down. Because I don't belief it. So wait, because women aren't committing you don't expect or want commitment from a man? Not very logical
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:21 PM
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So why would men commit if you're just going to squat your slit on every chad cock you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:17 PM
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I find it strange that you both say men want to do nothing if they can and that they are highly motivated to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:05 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying. Yes they formed heirarchy in the absence of women, that proves nothing. They formed hierarchys based on their skills and proclivities, who is best suited for which job. My point is not that no men ever sought to improve their lot in life, my point is in the absence of women men are much much MUCH more likely to just accept their place in that hierarchy. If women didn't select for those higher up in the hierarchy, and in the absence of other social pressures (most…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:04 PM
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I think that men do this BECAUSE of women. Men form hierarchies to get shit done based on skills etc. It's women who decide that those higher up in the hierarchy were more attractive. This is what makes men strive to move up the hierarchy. So I think you're confusing that it's male nature to want to be better, because the only reason males respond they way is because of the demands of women. So a utopia would be one where women behaved like humans with higher thought and didn't let their instinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:59 PM
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That's even less cute
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:06 AM
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The biggest problem remains the contradictions between female hypergamy (however defined) and gender equality. That is the main biology/culture contradiction that is causing the most problems. It is a very difficult circle to square. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:43 AM
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That isn't cute
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:22 AM
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Valuing only your priorities makes you disposable in womens eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:08 PM
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Everything you're saying is only to alleviate yourself of any responsibility. Things change, people change etc are all ways of distancing yourself from acknowledging that you have control over these things. Not absolute control over events but you do control how you react. If you change emotionally as a result of an event its because you decided to. Acknowledging that in 5, 10 or 14 years that might not be the case is just Acknowledging you're willing to allow your love to change. If you so desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 10:28 PM
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That's the whole point though. I can't convince you, you have to do that. Only you can alter your emotions with your thoughts, i can't do it for you. Why not just try believing love can last forever, what harm would that cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:53 PM
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It's possible for you, you repeating that it's not is literally rewiring your brain to disallow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:39 PM
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There's no meaningful delineation to be had there except to excuse yourself from any responsibility for your love "dying" The only reason you want to say being in love ends is to excuse the hard work you'd have to do to keep it going
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:56 PM
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You can't chose to be or not be attracted. Source This isn't what happens though. Usually you do feel that your attraction and feelings will last forever, until they don't. Even when you wanted them to. Then you're not reinforcing your thought to emotion concerning. I agree that you can't negotiate attraction, you can't pick and convince yourself to be attracted to X person. I don't think I said that. You can build attraction, so attraction that wasn't there at first sight can happen over time, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:12 PM
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Infinite options causes problems. It's not that they have choices that's the issue lmfao nice strawman though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:07 PM
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You can choose to want to be attracted, and choose to want to be infatuated. Women very often underestimate the power of their thoughts to influence their emotions. For example in the book "feeling good" they explain how you control your emotions with your thoughts. If you think pessimistically "i can't love this person forever, attraction fades etc" you're basically programing your brain to lose its attraction over time. You can and should do the opposite, and reinforce that thought every day. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:24 PM
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To me, being in love requires an element of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:26 PM
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Men don't lie about being shallow though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 06:23 PM
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Are women treating men as possessions when they don't let men sleep with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:58 AM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:32 AM
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How do you classify love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:41 PM
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What do you mean you don't believe in it? Like you don't believe it's possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:39 PM
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Wouldn't that mean you never really meant it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:38 PM
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But forever isn't malleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:38 PM
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What do you think those ads prove? You realize ads are meant to be humorous and provocative right? Or the fact that men in the late 1800s were so drunk and beating their wives and neglecting to provide for their families that it led to the prohibition movement? That is not even a reasonable conclusion to draw wtf lmao. Not saying these guys were held up as beacons if society but it's not like their wives had any protections. Yes in fact they did, if your wife showed up with a black eye at church…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:11 AM
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That is untrue. Nope Look at this chart of crime stats in the USA. Crime has been sharply decreasing since the 1980s/1990s. Your misunderstanding. I'm not saying as a result of single motherhood crime is at an all time high. I'm saying having a single mother is the largest indicator of poverty, currently. Yet, during those decades, single motherhood was sharply rising. So the kids of those single mothers weren't of criminal age yet, 18+ meaning. In the 80s and early 90s, crime rose sharply. Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:56 AM
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How do you define harassment And it's not an airtight defense for sleeping with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:49 AM
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