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Here's the thing though. If the "real world" simulated online dating, no one would get married. Yet in the real world most men and women are in generally looks-matched LTRs or marriages. So what's going on? Do women compartmentalize men? Are men they meet through online, cold approach (whether bar, club or day game) held to a different standard than a guy she meets at school, work or is introduced to through a friend?
/r/TheRedPill10/05/15 04:49 PM
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After my move to the countryside, one of the relatively few dates I got was with an OK-looking girl, perhaps a 7 or 7.5 tops. For one of the less attractive girls I dated since I started gaming, she was very iffy and flaky before the date. When the date did happen, it went very well, yet she was strangely non-committal, then flaked from the next date and nexted me. I wasn't sure why it happened. A couple of weeks later, I realized online is fairly popular in my new location, so I went online, an…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 11:13 PM
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Few months ago I went back to my small hometown (population: 8000) to visit my parents and some of my old friends. On my second day there one of my old buddies calls me up and says he wants me to come to the bar with him and his buddies. Cool. We get to the bar a bit early and no one is really there. I walk up to the bar, order my drink, and notice a chick on my right. Not to sound mean but she was a whale. Was the type where you could tell she could be pretty if sh stopped eating McDonald's eve…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:51 PM
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Yes. To further formalize: it's the gender imbalance you have in plain old nature, reincarnated in this high-technology form. The new point of balance might well be a bunch of 9-10 guys, each with a harem of 7-10 girls. The girls will be satisfied, because once every 1-2 weeks they get fucked well and hard by an experienced guy they find very hot. The guys are obviously satisfied since they get to fuck a different cute girl every day of the week. Guys who are 7 or lower get nothing.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:39 PM
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I recently went out with a 7 girl. I'm a 7 guy, I'd consider her within my league. We didn't get very far - only one date. She later told me she was fucking a male model in a FB relationship. She met this guy on POF. She now probably thinks she's above my league. It's not even socially taboo anymore for a girl to admit she's in a pure FB relationship, as long as the guy is hot enough. In fact, if he's hot enough, it's a source of validation and social status for her.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:37 PM
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The concern in the OP is that there will be enough 8-10 looking guys messaging all the 7-10 girls to keep those occupied. In the past, players - especially those with less than 8 looks - relied on the fact that a lot of guys in the 8-10 group didn't have game. But you don't need game to send a clever message online and rely on your pictures to do the rest of the work. The concern is that online is going to negate the advantage of game, especially stuff like the ability to boldly approach. It's g…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:04 PM
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I kissed 4 of the 5 girls I went out with this year. Keep in mind these are all effectively online "blind" dates. None of those 4 girls would've gone out with me if they'd seen my pic beforehand. They would've instantly stereotyped me and disappeared. I think the problem is these girls like me when they're in the moment. So I can ramp up the attraction and escalation and even get them back to my place. But when I text them two days later, they're in a much different emotional state. Their logica…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:51 PM
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I recently went on 5 online dates. 4 of those 5 were girls didn't request my picture before meeting up - in other words they were all online blind dates (from CL). I kissed 4 of them, and brought 2 back to my place for a makeout. Never got a second date from any of them. The 5th girl was an ethnic minority which is probably why she didn't stereotype me and disappear upon seeing my pic. Ironically, she was the only girl I didn't kiss close. Didn't get a second date with her either.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:41 PM
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Let me first state that I think I'm a pretty attractive guy. I'm fit, always keep a clean look and wear nice clothes. My problem is with closing online, mainly Craigslist. I have no problem with getting girls to respond to my post, and no problem engaging them in conversation and keeping their interest level high. The problem is when I send my pictures. 90% of them disappear and are never to be heard of again. I have no problems with building attraction and interest levels with emails/chat. Most…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:35 PM
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The "blind date" strategy is the only way I can get a window of opportunity to date young, slim cute girls and run my game in person. Otherwise, girls instantly stereotype me upon seeing my picture and either disappear or flake immediately. My only recourse would be to date other ethnic minorities (which would severely limit my dating pool as I live in a 90% white town) and fatties.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:25 PM
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Once you get her out on a date alone, with alcohol, logistics, horniness and anonymity (her friends will never find out!) anything can happen. Again, the objective here is to get a window of opportunity with a girl that otherwise would not have given you the time of day based on your picture alone. For guys who don’t fit the tall/white/muscular aesthetic ideal, this is crucial online.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:20 PM
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Ironically, you're far less likely to get called out now on canned routines than in 2005-2006 - when The Game was published - or a couple years ago when The Pickup Artist VH1 show was broadcast. PUA has peaked, it's past its heyday. And with the movement towards "natural game" there are fewer guys using canned routines... which means fewer girls calling me out on routines that get me laid.
/r/seduction16/12/11 10:11 PM
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There is a sickness in the community. There are guys teaching pickup, that don’t know their asses from a hole in the ground. The problem is most guys, who are new, can’t tell that a lot of these no game jokers have no game. Why? Because these “teachers” get results (for themselves) and get laid. Many of you doubtless are confused by what is to many an “obvious” contradiction. But, I assure you there is no contradiction here. They are out there, and they are damaging guys badly. These gurus are t…
/r/seduction16/12/11 09:10 PM
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Learn Mystery Method.
/r/seduction16/12/11 09:07 PM
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Think of routines as training wheels. When you first hopped on a bike as a kid you probably fell. You put on training wheels and got a feel for the bike. After a while you take of the training wheels and ride the bike "naturally". That's all this is. Brainwashing a virgin with "inner game" self-help shibboleth and then telling him to "go natural" in set won't do him any good. Read some of the threads on www.rsdnation.com/forum/1 to see how hopeless and innefective their current "natural game" te…
/r/seduction16/12/11 08:57 PM
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Fvck all that. I just want to stick my slide my beef in some taco.
/r/seduction16/12/11 08:46 PM
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And what does "be yourself" mean to a short, skinny 25 year old virgin who just desires to experience sex?
/r/seduction16/12/11 08:36 PM
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(Article by Tyler Durden, President of Real Socal Dynamics, circa 2004 before he went commercial:) How Routines Can Help Improve Your Game It's recommended that new guys learn material and routines because they are usually unable to hold conversations with women, and by creating a consistent 40 minute set they will get experience interacting with women on cold approaches. Without creating a set, it is unlikely that majority of newer guys will have much success, because their lack of experience w…
/r/seduction16/12/11 08:30 PM
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Foundations is great for a "structured approach to unstructured game". Read TD's old stuff in the mASF archives circa 2004-2007. Before he morphed into a Natural Game / New Age spiritual guru snake oil salesman. http://www.bristollair.com/pua/tyler-durden/ The Power of Good PUA Routines Author: Tyler Durden NEW ROUTINES (BREAKDOWN AND BUILDING) Routines are SO important, IMO. Good routines are integral to PU’ing groups of chicks. Anybody who tells me that they are pulling HB8+ chicks from groups…
/r/seduction16/12/11 07:52 PM
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The current state of game is absolutely terrible. The influx of the “natural” style is ultimately killing the scene in my opinion. I went to a few of these small monthly PUA get togethers – you pay about 10 dollars, listen to an instructor or some other presenter talk for 40 minutes, then talk to the other dudes there to hopefully meet new wings (which is all well and good). The last few times I went there were some fairly well known “Naturals”, one was supposedly a former instructor at a major …
/r/seduction16/12/11 07:34 PM
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A lot of this “natural game” stuff was started by RSD as a counter to the Mystery Method. Tyler Durden writes about this as far back as 2006 (see quote above). While inner game is a worthwhile pursuit, but PU should be PU. If you want self-help, read a Tony Robbins book. When did this inner game stuff became so popular in the community? We should keep in mind that different guys have different problems. For some guys, their lack of inner game really is the main thing that is holding them back an…
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:50 PM
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This. Lets say you are studying how to become a stock market investor. Would you be satisfied with making profit on one out of ten trades? Systematic and continuous FOCUSED learning and refinement should lead to continuously better results. But only if you streamline the process - meaning you do certain things and you keep them consent, and improve them with time. The point is - you need to remove randomness out of the process as much as you can - and you can do this by using routines and an alg…
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:40 PM
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Many otherwise hopeless virgins racked up lays via Mystery Method routine stacks. The whole PUA movement towards "natural game" is a scam. A lot of these natural game gurus realize there's a big market to be tapped by telling guys what they WANT to hear, rather than what they NEED to hear to get results with women. It feels great to be told to be confident, be natural, be yourself and essentially be given a motivational pep talk seminar... never mind that most of the good gurus got where they ar…
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:33 PM
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The transition in the seduction community from "structured / routines game" to "natural / inner game" came about as a result of marketing / overexposure / saturation / fear of being called out. Here's a post from Tyler Durden from September 2006 in the early days of RSD. "Hey man, The reason I stopped using routines was because I lived in a kind of paranoia that one day the routines (and their format) would be played out. It bothered me because I felt like I was this new, cool guy -- but it coul…
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:06 PM
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A 6'2" muscular white guy has success with women. Yawn. At end of the day, nobody wants to read the same old story about the all American, white frat boy that's banging tons of cheerleaders. We've already read that book. Hearing about some average looking, short Asian/Indian guy that somehow ended up fucking tons of bad bitches is a much more interesting story.
/r/seduction15/12/11 01:05 AM
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Ironically, Latin America is far far worse than the US for all the things the author berates - leering, whistles, catcalls at women etc. Ditto Italy and the Mediterranean, India (eve-teasing), Japan (subway groping)... The US is very tame comparatively. The elephant in the room is what's the demographic profile of the guys that generally do this? The author doesn't address this as it's not PC but here's a hint - it's not guys hanging out at Seddit...
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:29 AM
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Unfortunately, the real creeps make it harder for the genuine good guys that want to make an honest approach. It's much harder to stop a woman powerwalking her way through, wearing iPod earbuds on and avoiding all eye contact because she has her defenses up.
/r/seduction14/12/11 06:24 PM
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And this is why direct day game doesn't work for average-looking guys in Anglo countries. In the feminist-influenced Anglosphere strange men are assumed to be creeps and rapists. Here's the mindset of a man doing direct day game: "I'm ballsy. I'm a man. I'm going to make my intentions known. She'll get wet for me cuz I'm so ALPHA." Here's what the woman in Anglosphere is thinking: "Eww... creep. Go away." Why do virtually all good day game videos feature a young American/Canadian/British/Aussie …
/r/seduction14/12/11 05:17 PM
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But you're white! Tell us your secret.
/r/seduction12/12/11 11:15 PM
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Your height negates your Asian-ness. You don't conform to the stereotype.
/r/seduction12/12/11 11:07 PM
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I know this Sasha cat's from Toronto. If he ran this approach up here he'd get shut down. Hard. Guaranteed. The local girls would see through the facade, see that he's a complete dork and walk away. The Hungarian girl was awed by his exotic foreignness. Nothing more.
/r/seduction12/12/11 10:35 PM
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Usually not at nightclubs.
/r/seduction12/12/11 09:42 PM
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You know what real game is? It's all the things you take with you if you were to transfer bodies with someone else. Would you get similar results? If you wouldn’t, you're using your looks as a crutch.
/r/seduction12/12/11 09:40 PM
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For tall, muscular white/black guys: You already meet the physical parameters of what American girls consider “fuck-worthy.” You can thank the media for that. You are starting from a SURPLUS position. Game = Raw physicality + not saying anything stupid For short, skinny Asian/Indian guys: You DO NOT meet the physical parameters of what American girls consider “fuck-worthy.” You can thank the media for that. You are starting from a DEFICIT position. Game = incredible verbal skills + cocky-funny +…
/r/seduction12/12/11 09:03 PM
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Yet another day game video of an American/Canadian/British/Aussie guy gaming a pleasant, feminine Eastern European girl with middling English. Why are there few legitimate day game videos of guys approaching Anglo girls? In the US/Canada/Britain? This is why: Here's the mindset of a man doing direct day game: "I'm ballsy. I'm a man. I'm going to make my intentions known. She'll get wet for me cuz I'm so ALPHA." Here's what the woman in Anglosphere is thinking: "Eww... creep. Go away." Direct day…
/r/seduction12/12/11 03:24 AM
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It's clear the Indian guy's using classic PUA tactics. He even cites "The Red Queen" and "The Selfish Gene" in his opening monologue. His game is classic Mystery Method - opinion openers, negs, cold-reads, kino, takeaways, winning over the whole group before isolating etc. Average guy with tight game > pretty boy with rookie game.
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:05 AM
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First World problem.
/r/seduction11/12/11 11:28 PM
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Very few guys will wait longer than a few dates to be intimate. FYI ladies, guys are still sleeping with other women while dating you - they won't tell you tho. I don't know if this is a troll post but 'hooking up'\fwb\f*ck buddies has become so common its dropped the value of your vagina's. Even 'good girls' put out quickly now for fear of losing the guy to another woman. Making a guy wait solves nothing. Girls say they do it to make sure you're not getting used, but every guy I know talks to m…
/r/seduction11/12/11 09:28 PM
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Eventually, it becomes a chicken-egg thing. If a short Indian guy reads the advice here, hits the field, and is met with rejection after rejection, and sees a tall jacked white boy running the same game and pulling, he can't help but feel his race is a factor. So are the multitude of Indian/Asian guys stating their lack of success just whiners? Or is their some merit to their arguments? Ultimately, girls want to F guys whom they perceive as "higher value" than them. Unfortunately, Indian and Asi…
/r/seduction10/12/11 10:52 AM
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Link us to his profile.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:14 PM
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The irony is the girls I've gamed and bedded offline would never have given me the time of day online.
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:43 PM
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I'm assuming it's a good looking guy slumming it with girls far below his league. Win-win for both - guy gets his dick wet, fattie/uggo/socially awkward girl gets sex with guy she'd normally never have access to offline.
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:11 PM
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Good stuff bro. But how did the girls rank relative to you, objectively? Looks, status? I've smashed a few birds off POF but the calibre of girls was much worse than what I get offline - in looks, status and personality. Definitely felt like I was slumming it. My perception is that tall muscular white guys are cleaning up with the genuine hot birds and the rest are sharing the scraps. The problem lies when a woman takes a look at a guy's pictures and makes a split second assessment (and screens …
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:58 AM
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I've alternated between texting to call and texting only. I think texting to call is at least as good, and it makes it way easier to set up a date. And young girls by and large do not pick up phone calls from unknown numbers. Even if they do have your number, they're desperately afraid of 'awkwardness' and will not pick up. Texting her after that is kind of awkward - she will feel bad for ignoring you and will not want to face her rudeness by talking to you. Sending a clever text or two first is…
/r/seduction01/12/11 05:00 PM
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What you are describing is a very common. Guy meets girl, texts her some chit chat, they never hang out. Thats why I have decided to stop texting girls. When I meet a girl and get her number, I call her. Its way easier to make a connection talking over the phone. Every dork in town is texting her that bullshit. Be the guy who calls. Try to vibe with her on the phone. The way she talks, her tone and volume, these are all little chances to connect with her. Use your wit and humor. Try to get her c…
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:45 AM
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You need to bait her into picking up the phone. Try this. Text her "hey my friends and I are debating something. you seem smart we could use your input on this. got a sec?" Now call her. You've prepped her for the phone call.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:43 AM
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I've alternated between texting to call and texting only. I think texting to call is at least as good, and it makes it way easier to set up a date. And young girls by and large do not pick up phone calls from unknown numbers. Even if they do have your number, they're desperately afraid of 'awkwardness' and will not pick up. Texting her after that is kind of awkward - she will feel bad for ignoring you and will not want to face her rudeness by talking to you. Sending a clever text or two first is…
/r/seduction29/11/11 11:28 PM
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This. There should be a clear delineation between Game 1.0 (pre-smartphones) and Game 2.0 (post-smartphones). The 2000s saw a dramatic acceleration in the growth of female-centric communications technology – namely, the explosion of texting, social networking, and online dating. Yet most PUA material was developed in the late 90s/early 2000s, before smartphones and Facebook. PUA theory hasn’t kept pace with the evolution of communications technology, especially now that the “seduction community”…
/r/seduction29/11/11 11:09 PM
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Girls are out hoping to meet the man of their dreams. Failing that, they'll hook up with a guy who's got game and makes it happen. Failing that she'll go home alone with her friends then get sex from her FB that night or week. What she wont do is hook up with any old chode just because she's horny, unless she's a total slut. Girls are always looking for the next best thing, if they weren't they'd be dating their FBs not just using them for sex. If you're not offering anything better than what th…
/r/seduction27/11/11 06:34 PM
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Girls always are up for exciting sex with a stud WHETHER THEY REALIZE IT CONSCIOUSLY OR NOT. Girls rarely go out with the conscious intention of sexing, but they're still poppin' babies which means they still want to have sex on a subconscious, primal level. They just want to be lead into sex with a guy who'll bring out their sexy side, take the responsibility, and make it comfortable for her (which very few guys who're at bars and clubs can actually do). They're looking for a real man who won't…
/r/seduction27/11/11 05:43 AM
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Good call, I've been that guy. Nothing like a 2 AM "I'm horny" booty text. I think one night stands from clubs are rarer today than in the 90s/early 2000s. I attribute it the growing popularity of FWB/FB arrangements. And texting. In the past girls would have to pick up the phone and CALL to make this happen - and if she has to orally express her desire to get slammed, she feels like a sl*t. So this didn't happen as much. Booty texts are impersonal and innocuous. I recall waiting in the parking …
/r/seduction26/11/11 10:45 PM
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Alright here's the situation. Hit up a local nightclub. See a cute college girl sitting alone at a table by the dance floor. Chat her up (more like yelling into her ear). About 5 minutes in 3 of her friends show up; she talks to them briefly and the friends leave - I can't hear what they're saying as the music is very loud. I resume chatting with the girl. 5 minutes later the 3 friends show up again and again she talks to them briefly and again they leave. I chat with the girl a bit more and eve…
/r/seduction23/11/11 05:59 AM
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This might have the ironic effect of bolstering the fortunes of the enterprising day game player. The average guy isn't ballsy enough to chat up a girl on the street - let alone a zoned out girl wearing earphones. Of course, if a girl is constantly walking around with her earphones on she's even LESS used to being chatted up by guys - so you stand out that much more. In my experience most girls - even those with earphones - have been surprisingly receptive. If you have interesting things to say …
/r/seduction01/11/11 05:53 AM
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The key is to go in with a game plan. This is the template I follow while running day game on college campuses. Start by saying I’m looking for a friend and need directions – the easiest and most socially appropriate way to stop a stranger on the street. Transition with the curveball – “Are you good with relationship advice?” and immediately ground it with “I know it sounds random.” This gets her guard down (he must be in a relationship, so he’s normal, and he’s not trying to hit on me.) And she…
/r/seduction27/10/11 06:41 PM
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Fellas, this is why you never take advice on girls from girls. You just reinforced why texting beats calling: You have lots of demands on your time You have other random chump orbiters after you Despite giving out your number, he's still a "random guy" to you Texting gives you constant attention and validation from lots of different guys while demanding none of the reciprocation. Of course you, as a girl, prefer it. You dictate the terms - the ball is in your court. The phone is how you bridge t…
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:49 PM
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No one's gonna argue that texting, facebook, etc. will build attraction more than face to face interaction. The issue we're dealing with is time bridging--getting to a day2. This is where the distractions take place; girls are very hesitant to make definite plans, because they are getting invited out to stuff all the time. If you can GET a woman to meet you face-to-face, game 1.0 is all you need. But, getting her to commit to meet you is harder than it was 5-10 years ago. I think technology and …
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:04 AM
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Dude, how many girls have you pulled for a one night stand in the last 6 months, with a girl you met that night and not via social circle?
/r/seduction24/01/11 03:22 AM
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Dude, how are things on the spectrum?
/r/seduction24/01/11 03:04 AM
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Why do many groups of girls, drink, dance, talk to a bunch of guys, reject them ALL and leave? Is NO guy good enough for them? Don't they want to hook up with SOMEONE? Why is it so easy to hook up on vacation, but quite challenging back home? Keep in mind, this is a generalization. There are no 100 percent rules in this game. (There will always be some hookups going on.) First, it is no secret that generally, guys go out to get laid, while women go out for drinks, attention, and an ego boost. Th…
/r/seduction24/01/11 01:15 AM
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