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That's why feminism is actually the greatest shit test of all. The supplicating dudes who subscribe to it will become orbiters and weed themselves out, while only the stronger alpha males will be left over. Then the women can have their pick. Quite ingenious, really.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/16 11:17 PM
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If you lay out the red carpet for women, then you'll get an awful lot of women who expect the red carpet treatment anywhere they go and don't believe in doing a single thing to deserve it. This is what's happened in our society. Since they are young, they have doors opened for them, they are flirted with just for buying a coffee, they are told that boys should never hit a girl (so they'll feel safe to be an aggressor), and they get special treatment in everything - they're little special snowfla…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 03:18 AM
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The catch-22 of a patent is that once you've registered, your entire idea and how it works is now public. Sure, you're protected under the law, but now it's much easier to imitate and rip off. Not registering for a patent lets other steal your idea legally, but they have no blueprint as to how to build something identical. They'd have to go through the same research, tests, etc, to try to build the same thing. Not saying that's what Vasalgel has decided to do, but that's one argument against pat…
/r/TheRedPill21/05/16 07:47 PM
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In a first date/meeting, my line upon arrival is: "I'll get the first round, you can get the second." It communicates "I am interested in you. I can buy stuff. But I'm not your ATM."
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 05:46 AM
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I soft-nexted one of my plates because she's just a shitty person. There's absolutely a dichotomy between the RP truths she exemplified, and her character as a human being. She was extremely adventurous in bed which was a lot of fun, but everything else about her lifestyle made me cringe. Single mother, too, and her entire philosophy as to why she was slutting it up now was such typical hamster I just didn't want to be a part of it anymore. Someone here once said, "being a man doesn't mean fucki…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 05:38 AM
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How recently did you discover TRP? I was in a pretty big dry spell also for the most part when I found my way here. LTRs are not frowned upon here completely. Being a little bitch in an LTR is frowned upon. There's plenty of LTR strategy on this sub, plenty of married guys too. You just have to learn how to manage it properly so you don't get taken advantage of. However: gaining some game and some frame will help you achieve an LTR goal as well, not just a quick fuck, because you'll be learning …
/r/askTRP18/05/16 05:32 AM
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Weatherman: "Looks like the hurricane is moving east!" SJW: "Are you saying ALL RAINDROPS ARE LIKE THAT? Obviously some are NOT MOVING EAST. Therefore, you're a racist raindropist." Calling out exceptions may render an absolute untrue, but it does not render a trend untrue. AWALT, as discussed here, does not mean all women are carbon-copies of each other. It means all women have the propensity to act a certain way, and usually do.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 05:26 AM
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I long for companionship sometimes, but with what its become in todays world, I'd rather be alone. You hit the nail on the head for me here. I've been unplugged for two years and this really helps sum up a very complicated outlook on the desire for companionship that's been programmed into us vs. the reality of modern companionship. I used to want an LTR like my life depended on it. Now when I imagine myself in a relationship, I cringe. It doesn't sound like fun anymore, and completely unnecessa…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/16 05:15 AM
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One thing that has worked for me recently is having her meet at my place and then we Uber to the location, or I meet at her place and go from there. It guarantees, at a minimum, we'll be back together. I'm not sure if your location will allow this, but it's worth thinking about. Otherwise, game hard, drop subtle sexual comments, and she'll want to "come over for a movie."
/r/askTRP18/05/16 05:08 AM
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Agreed. A&A is my favorite way to deal with shit tests, but in the right situation a complete ignore/subject change can demonstrate a very strong frame. The lack of response from OP to begin with will get her hamster running and following it up with an invite will push it over the edge.
/r/askTRP18/05/16 05:05 AM
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women are too complicated Read a bit more of the sidebar on the main sub and you'll find that women are not that especially complicated - they are hopelessly predictable. You just have to decide what it is YOU are looking for. Sounds like you're brand new and hitting the anger phase. Keep it up, read some sidebar, and keep trying new things.
/r/askTRP18/05/16 04:59 AM
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I don't really have a full picture of you or this other guy, but it might come down to: Game. I have a friend who is definitely an attractive guy but he's sexually frustrated because his game is awful. On the flipside, I have a friend who definitely isn't the most attractive dude but he's confident and has good game.
/r/askTRP15/05/16 10:10 PM
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You: acting confident and ridiculous Her hamster: omg is he really like this? Why's he so confident? Is this how he gets girls? He probably fucks a lot. Is he always like this? He clearly doesn't care. I should be interested in him.
/r/askTRP15/05/16 08:33 PM
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This is exactly right. There's all kinds of "text game" that isn't pure logistics. The issues many guys here have with texting is over-texting, responding too fast, an initiating too often/always. If something is working for you, OP, keep it up.
/r/askTRP15/05/16 08:30 PM
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Recently most of my plates have been direct-to-home. If they are cool I really don't mind going out for a drink, or if it's to a place I like and would go to anyway. I don't contact them night-of though. I usually plan something a few days in advance.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/16 07:21 PM
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I really frame my interactions with them to prevent these assumptions right off the bat. If I feel like I've layed it out as clearly as I can, their assumptions are their problem, not mine. I've had one plate drop because she wanted to date. I let her go. She came back. We fucked for a while. Then she said she felt dirty just coming over for sex and wants to at least to get a drink before. That's reasonable to me but we haven't done it yet. So yeah, it's possible that they'll be "disappointed" b…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/16 03:47 AM
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I'll address your last point first. I usually frame my interactions such that they know I'm not looking for anything serious. I NEVER directly talk about "other girls" but my lifestyle and casual attitude toward everything should generally telegraph this is not exclusive. You'll be amazed at how long you can go on with these girls before they ask "so....what are we?" then, you hold frame, end it if you want. They come back anyway. As far as what to do with the plates do whatever you want. After …
/r/TheRedPill13/05/16 05:02 AM
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My friend showed this thread to me yesterday and it took every bone in my body not to say "this is gonna end up on TRP and I can't wait to read the comments." I made a mention of the "haven't had sex in three months" comment and he agreed with me anyway that that's a red flag in its own right.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/16 07:26 PM
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Sure thing, thanks for reading. Looking forward to your experiences and perspectives on this topic!
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 01:36 AM
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Completely agree. PUA seems to be about having a script, to "run a routine that works" with saying "certain lines" to "open on sets." Where RP is about changing your perspective, your outlook, and learning about the world. In turn those changes inform your actions. It's like the difference between "are you saying I can dodge bullets" and "you won't have to."
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 01:32 AM
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Thanks for the compliment and the point! I am honored. Looking forward to your eventual post on the topic.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/16 01:27 AM
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I believe someone here once said: "Being a man doesn't mean fucking whoever you want. It means not fucking who you don't want to fuck."
/r/askTRP04/05/16 01:54 AM
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Generally, men communicate to give solutions. Women communicate to relate and sympathize. That's why women talk on average way more than men on a daily basis. When my female friends complain to me, I just talk about how much that sucks, it must be so hard, etc, and they feel better. When my male friends have a problem, I offer a solution and we go for it. Try offering a solution to a woman the next time she complains about something. You won't be surprised with the outcome.
/r/askTRP04/05/16 01:49 AM
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When they come out cold with a question like that, or it's a subject change, I usually treat it like a shit test and give a stupid made-up answer. Then they laugh (or not) and then I feed 'em the truth. I take it as an opportunity to gauge their attention level/interest in me. It also has the added bonus that you are not giving up your information just because she asked - she had to work a little. I don't do this all night, that would get tiring, but definitely at first when the subject changes …
/r/TheRedPill28/04/16 02:37 AM
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Day game is my next world to conquer - I'm still working on breaking the mental barrier of "don't talk to her right now, she's grocery shopping!"
/r/TheRedPill28/04/16 02:30 AM
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This is very important advice. I've gotten the cheek a few times. Never felt bad about trying, and usually the body language has still been positive: cuddling against me, my arm around her, etc. Never has she removed herself, and that to me means I should definitely try again. When it happens I usually frame it like this: "Oh yeah, we shouldn't be kissing in the middle of this bar. I'll kiss you when there's less people watching so I can do it how I like."
/r/TheRedPill28/04/16 02:29 AM
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She doesn't like that you don't fall in line the way her orbiter does. Of course her relationship with her orbiter is amazing, according to her. She gets to 'share everything' while not having to give anything. I wonder if her orbiter thinks it's an amazing relationship... Now you, on the other hand, you turn her into the whore she wants to be in the bedroom, and gets mad at herself for giving it to you without YOU putting anything in. So she turns that anger back on you and blames it on you. Ju…
/r/askTRP25/04/16 02:14 AM
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"OMG he was such an asshole when he told me to lose weight" "yeah, totally, my last ex wouldn't even let me do anal." I've gotten the "i'm not like this" and "i want to but i can't" and "we are not having sex" I always just agree and amplify. I did see something great on here recently which was "we're not having sex tonight" "the night is still young, you should be optimistic"
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 01:57 AM
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It's up to you to know how much is too much to handle. If you feel like your life is getting too busy to be able to handle 3 plates, drop one! If everything is going fine, keep it up. You know your life better than us here, so just be honest with yourself about what you do and don't have time for.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 01:53 AM
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Did she already agree to the date? Is the date set? I agree with the other poster here, just set up the date and get it going there.
/r/askTRP18/04/16 05:09 AM
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Yes, exactly. I know the wage gap has been basically debunked, but there are still some studies that point to women having some ish in the workplace. My thought was to maybe prove why it IS happening rather than why it's not.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/16 06:05 AM
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Yeah, it doesn't really matter, but I don't think she is. She COULD be fucking other dudes but it really doesn't matter since I'm still getting the kind of casual relationship that I want.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 07:31 AM
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Exactly. She could be fucking ten other dudes, but I'm still getting exactly what I want from her at $0 down.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 07:30 AM
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Thanks for the comment. Just trying to share my RP experiences, especially with regards to holding frame. I don't come here to brag - what would I have to gain from bragging to like-minded people who support my endeavors? I've never seen this forum as a place where people brag. We share. My goal is to share an experience I had where I applied TRP thinking, so perhaps others can relate, learn, or contribute comments. I apologize if the tone came off as braggadocios. My intent was just to write th…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 07:29 AM
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Or wives. Also raises hand.
/r/askTRP12/02/16 02:51 AM
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Don't be all bummed out that she "finds her way into your mind." That's not the sign of the problem. The sign of the problem is how you react to her presence in your mind. If she shows up, don't overreact. Let her in for a second, and then dismiss. We all get one-itis. We all meet girls who end up special to us for one reason or another, whether or not they deserve to be. Lord knows I have one or two that I'll never forget. Remind yourself that nothing came of it and nothing will come of it, and…
/r/askTRP27/12/15 08:26 AM
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Learn a few songs on the guitar. Please don't do or deal drugs.
/r/askTRP27/12/15 08:21 AM
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Years and years and years of practice. Now's a good time to start.
/r/askTRP27/12/15 08:19 AM
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Gaming isn't a "hobby" in the way you'd want a hobby for monk mode. Learning an instrument, exercising, learning to cook, or reading more non-fiction are the kinds of hobbies great for monk mode. They help advance your mind. Then, when you're out of monk mode, you've got more to talk about.
/r/askTRP27/12/15 08:10 AM
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I think Girl 1 and 2 have both already nexted you. Don't go to a water park with girl 3. That's a little bit more of a time commitment you should be giving someone on date 2. Once she's sucking your dick 2-3 times a week, sure, a water park every once in a while has been earned.
/r/askTRP01/10/15 05:21 AM
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This is a great shit test where I would test to see how far I can push the envelope with her. I'd say my line and see how she reacts "Only if she wants it in the butt." "Only if she has one of my fetishes" "With or without you?" "What would you be doing during it?" "At which point in her career?"
/r/askTRP01/10/15 04:33 AM
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What are you looking for? If you're looking for sex on date 1... ...don't do anything other than getting a drink. A little social lubricant goes a long way, and the bar is a dark atmosphere which adds mystery and a stigma. Go somewhere local, near your place so you can convert easily. Don't go when it's too crowded (maybe earlier, like 7 or 8, depends on your town) as to minimize distractions. Making it YOUR bar is the home court advantage. I forget which Law of Power it was, or maybe I read it …
/r/askTRP01/10/15 04:28 AM
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This was actually very refreshing to hear. Thanks.
/r/askTRP01/10/15 04:15 AM
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I've been saying an old age like "73" or "84" They laugh EVERY time. They almost always reply with something like "wow you look great!" And now I get to talk about how I work on my body or whatever. And her body too. Turning geriatrics into sexual talk. That's how I roll.
/r/askTRP01/10/15 04:11 AM
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I'm a writer as well as a musician and songwriter. I'd love to get in on this in some capacity. (Don't be fooled by the n00bness of my username, I've been around these parts for over a year and a half.)
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 11:17 PM
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Quit watching porn again. I stopped about a year ago and have never felt better. If the girls aren't as gross as mud I'd say go for it. If she's tolerable, that's fine. In fact, girls like this usually CRAVE sex and it will likely be a good time. Eventually you'll be able to filter through girls and be a little picker, but for now, for the first one? Go and have some fun. Learn a few things and get the first notch on your belt. It will hardly even matter a year from now.
/r/askTRP24/08/15 04:32 AM
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Gotta be more direct in that moment. "Link up soon" like when, a few weeks? Don't tell her you miss her energy. You don't miss her at all. If you do, don't tell her that, you're stepping into her frame. The other posters here pretty much nailed it. Direct her to come over on your time, you choose when. You either call her bluff like a badass or you get laid.
/r/askTRP24/08/15 04:10 AM
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If you have other interests and hobbies, go ahead and pursue them as hobbies. But for serious, serious things that you're trying to base a career off of, I'd say spend the majority of your time on one of them. Personally, I have 2 interests that are pretty much tied for first. A while back, I just had to choose one of them to develop and I'm glad I did. That doesn't mean I'm without other hobbies, but I just chose one thing to really focus on.
/r/askTRP24/08/15 04:06 AM
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I don't think you fucked it up by not going for the kiss, but it's Vegas. Just go for the kiss. And whether or not she was actually tired after the club or if she fucked some Chad she found, it doesn't matter. I'd give her one chance to meet you for a drink. Text for logistics only. If she bails or isn't available, fuck it. Be short but not rude in your text messaging and wait a while before you respond. Personally, changing my text response rate worked wonders.
/r/askTRP24/08/15 04:02 AM
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I'd say move to NYC if you find a great job or if you're trying to chase your passions. Move for you, not for women. Especially not for the prospect of women. AWALT no matter where you are. Sure it may feel like "the grass is always greener on the other side" but really "the grass is always greener where you water it."
/r/askTRP18/08/15 04:30 AM
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You will fail, a lot. Each failure comes with a little less pain, until you learn that that's just the nature of the beast. That feeling of walking away from a girl after she just rejected you actually turns into some sweetnees. You feel great that you tried at least, because all your loser friends were too much of pussies to do it themselves and you had the balls to do it. Not to mention the faster you get ANY outcome from her, you'll either 1) be getting a number or sex or 2) moving on to the …
/r/askTRP18/08/15 04:27 AM
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Someone posted or linked to a Ted Talk a while back about what porn does to your brain. Once I saw that, I NOPED right out of watching porn. Cold turkey. The science made sense to me, and after a few weeks of not watching porn I actually felt my brain chemistry become a bit more stable. I wasn't unstable, believe me, but I literally had a different perspective on life. Sounds silly, but it's true. Give it a try.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 04:19 AM
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TRP made me realize that all those girls I thought were high quality actually weren't. TRP has helped me to filter through the bad ones. Well, not bad ones but ones for plate or less. Sometimes I think about this "girl worth waiting for." As if "oh shit, did I pass up on a great girl because I'm "too TRP?" There are a few girls I know that might be enough unicorn % to be worth an LTR. But then I think of my friends in their relationships and all the bullshit they have to deal with and how awesom…
/r/askTRP18/08/15 04:10 AM
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It was really just the typical "I don't usually do this" crap. She did it three days later. It really wasn't a big deal. If we didn't fuck and she never came back? Who cares, there's more. There's always more. That has been the biggest lesson for me as I've become an RPer. Making girls a second or third tier priority in my personal life has made my life so much better.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 03:32 AM
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Oh yeah, definitely. I was deep red enough at this point to know it was LMR and I honestly didn't care if we fucked or not. We did just about everything else and she came back three days later and plated her.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 03:30 AM
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I agree. I once had a girl come over and say "we can't have sex tonight, we just met!" We were already naked at this point, mind you. We didn't, but for some reason making a plan to go out again three days after was enough time for her to get to know me well enough to have sex. Three. Days. That was all the hamster needed to "not feel like a slut." Hah. She was a good plate.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 04:31 AM
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I've started audio recording parts of our interactions on my phone. Sometimes I'll record the post-coital cuddling and banter where she's saying shit like how good it was and all the other things she wants to do. I have yet to need this, but having some physical evidence of the girl enjoying herself and even consenting makes me feel a little better.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 04:20 AM
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