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You’re implicitly claiming that female desire depends on male action.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:28 AM
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I find a man who doesn’t make a move on you because he cares about you so much that he doesn’t want to make you uncomfortable far better than one who sees you and hits on you essentially because he wants to satisfy his own emotional and sexual needs through your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:53 AM
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I was referring to men who are better off not telling the truth, but only telling women what they want to hear. Anyway, when there’s a famine, any hole will do. As long as she’s skinny, that’s what matters — even if she has small breasts, we can make do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:12 PM
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You’re still confirming — without even realizing it — that when it comes to women, a man is never better off telling the truth about who he really is and what he genuinely wants from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:55 PM
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As usual, you women let yourselves be fooled by appearances. That’s why cunning, dishonest, manipulative, and opportunistic men get laid more often than people who are genuine and sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:38 PM
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Very often, there’s a misunderstanding when people talk about who makes the first move between men and women. By “making the first move,” women almost always mean, “I let him know that he could make a move, but that didn’t mean I was necessarily going to say yes. I still reserved the right to decide whether I liked the way he approached me or not.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:46 PM
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It’s the exact opposite of what I was saying. Making friends is easier because no man wants to get inside another man’s body, which is why gay men almost always have female friends and never male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:48 PM
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Not even if these traits stem from not wanting to make the woman he likes uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:50 PM
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Actually, it should concern you, because your body is what he desires in order to satisfy his needs. And if it isn’t you, it’ll be some other woman he won’t hesitate to make a move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:48 PM
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But in saying that, you’re implicitly suggesting that men who have no qualms about trying to satisfy their emotional and sexual needs will be rewarded more often—if not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:19 PM
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A friend doesn’t want to get inside your body and spray inside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:00 PM
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But in this way, women will end up rewarding those men who have no qualms about pursuing the satisfaction of their own needs, whether emotional or sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:39 PM
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Unfortunately, when you try to approach many women and get to know them, they immediately start thinking, “Here comes another pig who just wants to fuck me.” Not all women think that way, of course, but quite a few do, and it can really make you lose the desire to approach women at all, especially if you’re a sensitive man. If you’re not particularly sensitive, you don’t care what a woman thinks of you and simply do whatever your needs at that moment tell you to do. Paradoxically, this kind of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:07 PM
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It's obvious: men and women are biologically different. Men have a prostate that needs regular ejaculation, while women don't. The main reason men pursue long-term relationships is to have a reliable source of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:53 PM
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You can simply speak in general terms about men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:18 PM
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Most men are able to control themselves even though, internally, they are overwhelmed by a strong desire to have sex with that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:06 PM
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What feelings? If he made a move on you, it means he sexually desires you. And unless you suddenly become completely unattractive to him, that desire doesn’t just disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:45 AM
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But whenever he sees you, his eyes will still be filled with sexual desire for you. Are you aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:43 AM
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But whenever he sees you, his eyes will still be filled with sexual desire for you. Are you aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:40 AM
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But whenever he sees you, his eyes will still be filled with sexual desire for you. Are you aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:40 AM

In the Netherlands, and more generally across Northern Europe, it's easier for men to get laid. Women tend to be more sexually liberal than in more conservative countries, and they often take a more active role in courtship. In Southern Europe, by contrast, the only way for many men to have a regular sex life is to be in a stable relationship with a woman—one they may not even truly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:54 PM

En geloof niet alles wat mannen je vertellen, schatje.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:47 PM
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A man can't be friends with a woman he finds sexually attractive and wants to fuck. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. The only way a man can be friends with a woman he finds attractive is if he's already fucked her. The fact that he's already had her and gotten it out of his system might, for some men, lower their sex drive toward her and finally allow them to see her as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:34 PM

Why is it pathetic? Because men are trying to satisfy a strong biological need? It's the same reason many women—and many men—lie or try to present themselves as better than they really are in job interviews: they're trying to be chosen so they can get a job and earn a salary to meet their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:27 PM

The only reasonable reason a man courts a woman is because he wants to sleep with her. For a man, entering a long-term relationship means having the assurance of a more or less regular sex life. The alternative is masturbation, which, in the long run, isn't as satisfying as having access to a woman's body. Paying for sex is a socially frowned-upon alternative, so many men avoid it. I don't understand what you women find so surprising. Even Professor Keating in *Dead Poets Society* said that lang…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:18 PM
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It's not a matter of you "disagreeing." It's simply that you can't accept it, because doing so would force you to see men's relationships from a different perspective—and that would challenge all the (false) beliefs you've grown up with. The path to the truth is one that no one likes to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:59 PM

There are no guarantees, only expectations. It's obvious that, to maximize their chances of having a regular sex life, many men either accept marriage or propose it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:48 PM

Certainly, getting married can also have advantages for a man. Legally formalizing a stable relationship may give the woman greater peace of mind and, at least in theory, allow the man to keep getting laid regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:46 PM
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A woman—any woman—can have as much sex as she wants; she doesn't need to seek out a stable relationship for that. For a woman, having casual sex is as easy as drinking a glass of water: she only has to make herself available, and she can sleep with a different man every night. For men, it's not that easy. Most men don't have that kind of advantage. That's why, for many men, a stable relationship is the only way to get laid regularly. And many of them, just to keep getting laid on a regular basis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:41 PM

You don't become a Casanova overnight. For many men, being in a stable relationship with a woman—whether they're married or not—is the only way to get laid regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:32 PM

The two things can coexist—a romantic relationship and regular sex. It's also true that many men stay with women they don't deeply love simply because those women provide them with a steady (or almost guaranteed) sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:31 PM

Okay, here's a practical example so we can finally understand each other once and for all: Brad is a man who's not good with women. He's not particularly smooth or socially savvy, and he might even still be a virgin. At 21, he meets Lucy, a woman his age. They fall in love, and Brad finally starts having regular sex because he has a steady girlfriend. After three years together, Lucy tells Brad that she wants to get married because she sees it as the natural culmination of their love story. Brad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:27 PM

Certainly, the goal for many men is a stable relationship because it provides regular sex. Unfortunately, though, women often push for marriage, so the man agrees, hoping to keep having sex on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:10 PM

Certainly, the goal for many men is a stable relationship because it provides regular sex. Unfortunately, though, women often push for marriage, so the man agrees, hoping to keep having sex on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:10 PM

It's a matter of skill. Not every man is skilled enough to find a different woman every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:02 PM

It's not really a valid choice if it's a man's only opportunity to have sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:00 PM

It's not the main reason, but it's one of the reasons why many men seek a stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 PM

It's not impossible, but it's not easy to find a woman who's happy to guarantee you a regular sex life for years and, in the end, is perfectly fine with keeping things that way—that is, without marriage and without children (which kill a man's sex life).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 PM

No, but if a relationship lasts for years, it's usually women who push to make it official by getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:57 PM

Because a stable relationship is the only way many men can have a more or less regular sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:55 PM

Because a stable relationship is the only way many men can have a more or less regular sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:55 PM

Unfortunately, for many men (though not all), a stable relationship is the only way to have a regular sex life. If it were entirely up to men, a stable relationship could simply remain that way. But, as we all know, women are generally the ones who push more strongly to make the relationship official through marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:53 PM
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Because many gay men aren’t 100% gay, and many are bisexual. You can believe it or not—it doesn’t make the slightest difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:04 PM
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Because I’m a man, and I know how a man’s mind works. No man accepts a woman’s advances or pursues her unless her body gives him an erection. For a man, an erection and sexual intercourse are impossible if he isn’t physically attracted to that woman. That’s simply how nature works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:42 AM
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If your body hadn’t made him horny, he wouldn’t even have come up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:26 AM
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Because men who make the first move are used to approaching every woman they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:40 PM
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If you keep questioning my sincerity, all you’re really doing is reinforcing the idea that dishonest and opportunistic men are the ones women choose—because even if they think the same things I do (each according to their own preferences), they only tell women what they want to hear. Your behavior encourages dishonesty and rewards those who practice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:17 PM
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So you’ll only ever choose from the men who made a move on you. And you still have the nerve to say that your choice isn’t influenced by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:48 PM
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But you know very well that when a woman rejects a man, she’ll also know that, even if he steps back after being rejected, he’ll still want to fuck her. Her rejection doesn’t make his desire for her body disappear, and she’s fully aware of that. A woman who gets rejected, on the other hand, usually gets over it after a while. Her desire fades too, partly because for every man who rejects her, there are a hundred others willing to make a move on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I know him. He’s a horny creep who’s been playing the part of the reliable guy. In reality, he’s only interested in getting his hands on her boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:16 PM
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Because having the courage to make the first move isn’t proof of genuine feelings. It’s simply a convenient arrangement that allows women to avoid making much effort, since they only choose from the men who have already introduced themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:15 PM
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He’s not better than me; he simply had the courage to make the first move. He’s interested in the woman’s body too. For a man, love is only a possible consequence, not the primary goal. The sooner women understand this, the more aware they’ll be of how these dynamics actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:14 PM
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I realize it’s more convenient (for a woman) to have the fish served to her on a silver platter than to put in the effort to go out and catch it herself. Women expect men to show courage by making the first move, persistence in courtship, and a consistent presence in order to be chosen—qualities that they themselves are often unwilling or unable to demonstrate, because they’re afraid of making a move on someone who might only be pretending to be uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:59 PM
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It’s one thing to base your desire on the objective reality that’s right in front of your eyes. It’s another to base it on another person’s ability to spark that desire through their words and actions—in other words, on their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:44 PM
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No, they’re the same. But why choose the one who makes a move on you, when if he has the confidence to approach you, he’ll probably have the confidence to approach every other woman he’s attracted to as well? Why give a man a chance simply because he practiced on other women before meeting you—perhaps even practicing telling you exactly what you wanted to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:42 PM
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By refusing to engage in dialogue, you’re demonstrating the weakness of your intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:33 PM
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The public demands to be treated like women, to whom one should never say anything they do not want to hear. (Wolfgang Goethe).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:30 PM
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Men generally approach women because they hope that, eventually, she’ll end up in their bed. As I said, for a man, love is only a possible outcome—not the primary goal. That’s why, as a woman gets older, fewer men pursue her. It’s also why women who are considered unattractive, have a severe disability, or have facial disfigurements tend to have fewer suitors than women who are considered more physically attractive. You women are complicit in this hypocrisy because, by choosing only from the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:23 PM
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I’ve never claimed that women are attracted only to a man’s appearance. What I’ve consistently argued is that female desire depends on what a man does or says to spark it. In my view, that’s even worse, because it means your desire isn’t spontaneous—it’s dependent on a man’s actions, like puppets controlled by a puppeteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:17 PM
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Men generally approach women because they hope that, eventually, she’ll end up in their bed. As I said, for a man, love is only a possible outcome—not the primary goal. That’s why, as a woman gets older, fewer men pursue her. It’s also why women who are considered unattractive, have a severe disability, or have facial disfigurements tend to have fewer suitors than women who are considered more physically attractive. You women are complicit in this hypocrisy because, by choosing only from the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:16 PM
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What do you even mean by “he offers less”? That mindset is fundamentally flawed. You’re the one who should take control of your own life instead of waiting for a man to make the first move. Otherwise, you’ll always end up choosing only from the men who approached you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:12 PM
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You’re assuming that every man who shows interest in you and makes you feel something is interested in your soul rather than your body. Spoiler: that’s not the case, and deep down, you probably know it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:03 PM
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You’re assuming that every man who shows interest in you and makes you feel something is interested in your soul rather than your body. Spoiler: that’s not the case, and deep down, you probably know it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:03 PM
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You’re assuming that every man who shows interest in you and makes you feel something is interested in your soul rather than your body. Spoiler: that’s not the case, and deep down, you probably know it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:03 PM
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Because you have no way of knowing that the man who approaches you and makes his presence felt has more genuine feelings than the one who admires you from a distance, doesn’t approach you, and doesn’t want to bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:59 PM
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You’re saying that female attraction depends primarily on a man’s actions. If he takes action, he has a chance; if he doesn’t, he has no chance at all. Do you realize you’re describing women as puppets in the hands of a puppeteer—the man who takes action?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:57 PM
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If I were you, I’d be asking a different question: Why is this guy being so nice to me? Why is he so affectionate? Why does he listen to me? Why does he seem so determined to understand me? You already know the answer: because he wants to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:55 PM
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The reason is that I don’t base my desire on what a woman does or says, on whether she’s interested in me, whether she’s polite and kind to me, or whether she listens to me when I’m feeling down—in other words, on her actions, which come from her mind. I base my desire (for which I alone am truly responsible, rather than being influenced by what a woman says or does) solely on whether she has huge boobs. And even if she doesn’t, I can still give a chance to any woman who’s willing to satisfy me …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:49 PM
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And I replied by saying that it seems absurd to compare women’s mate selection criteria to those of a company whose goal is to maximize profits. Your argument only makes sense if you believe that women aren’t attracted to a man for who he is, but for what he can offer them—including emotions and entertainment. In other words, you’re practically saying that women base their choices on cold, ruthless calculation rather than genuine attraction. So much for “romanticism.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:39 PM
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You’re assuming that every man who shows interest in you and makes you feel something is interested in your soul rather than your body. Spoiler: that’s not the case, and deep down, you probably know it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:35 PM
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How can you be so sure about the feelings of a man who makes a move on you? Maybe he’s only interested in your body. A man who makes his presence felt is not any more trustworthy than one who keeps to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:33 PM
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All you have to do is what you’d expect him to do: be present, make him feel special, listen to him, and so on. Too much effort, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:31 PM
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Men who are used to making a move on every woman they find attractive are the ones who have no problem approaching and talking to you too (if they like you). I assume you don’t want to be seen as just one of many, am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:30 PM
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You have no evidence or argument to support the claim that a man who spends time with a woman is interested in her soul rather than her body. If you have any life experience, I think you can understand exactly what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:29 PM
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You’re proving once again that you can’t tell women the truth. That’s why liars, opportunists, and hypocrites are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:27 PM
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Are you seriously comparing women’s mate selection criteria to those of a company trying to maximize profits? I can’t believe you actually wrote that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:11 PM
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Yes, he’s interested—and he’s simply better than the other guy at getting sex from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:45 AM
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Leaving aside the fact that I explicitly said I’d go with both. The difference is that big, firm boobs are an objective reality—they’re right there in front of my eyes. A man’s words, on the other hand, are not objective reality; they’re subjective, coming from his own mind. And if a man wants to sleep with you, he’ll never tell you the truth—he’ll only tell you what he thinks you want to hear. Surely you can see for yourself that basing your desire on what’s going on in a man’s head doesn’t exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:42 AM
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If two attractive women hit on me, I’d sleep with the one with the bigger boobs first, and then with the other one. Why should I choose just one if I have the opportunity to make them both happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:35 AM
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You’re implicitly claiming that women approach this like a transaction—sex in exchange for emotional gratification. So much for the idea that your desire is “spontaneous.” Those are just stories you tell yourselves to avoid admitting that your sexual desire depends on what a man does or says in order to obtain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:55 AM
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Your statement implicitly suggests that, when it comes to women, you should never be honest or tell the truth. That’s why fake people and liars are so successful with women—they tell you what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:51 AM
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The truth can be unpleasant too. That’s why you women end up rewarding liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:22 PM
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You implicitly claimed that women are attracted to men who tell them what they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:20 PM
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Because if he’s used to behaving that way with every woman he’s attracted to, it means he has no qualms about pursuing whatever he wants in order to satisfy his own desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:16 PM
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I’d go with both—that would be a dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:15 PM
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Because he sees women as objects to be won.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:14 PM
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I’d choose the one with the firmer ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:13 PM
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No, I’d choose the one with the bigger boobs, even if she were more reserved and shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:06 PM
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If a man shows interest in you and is consistently present, it’s because that’s how he behaves with every woman he’s attracted to. That alone should make you think twice about men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:42 PM
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The question you should be asking yourself is: why does my desire depend on what a man does or says?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:40 PM
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Because the guy who showed interest isn’t necessarily a better person, nor does it mean his interest is more genuine than that of the guy who didn’t show it—or rather, who deliberately acted as if he wasn’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:39 PM
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That’s false. In fact, it’s completely false. There are men who have a more feminine kind of sensitivity—they’d rather avoid bothering someone than express their own desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:37 PM
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Likewise, going out with a guy who showed interest and made you feel special is no guarantee that, once he’s had sex with you, you’ll ever hear from him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:36 PM
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Because that way you become the one who truly shapes your own future and your relationships—for better or for worse—instead of simply choosing from whoever happens to present themselves, who might turn out to be a very poor choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:35 PM
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But even a boring man has a body and a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:33 PM
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So you’re still confirming that your desire for a relationship and for sex depends on what a man does or says—in other words, on the male mind? And yet women still claim to be the more intelligent sex, even though your willingness to sleep with a man seems to depend on his social skills, his behavior, and his ability to win you over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:32 PM
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The point is that this woman may end up falling in love with a man who sees her as nothing more than a body. If that happens, the realization could be extremely painful. Perhaps she would have been better off pursuing the guy who was genuinely interested in her but hid his feelings, rather than the one who had no hesitation about making himself constantly present in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:31 PM
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I asked a different question: how do you know that a man who turns his back on you isn’t simply hiding his interest in you as a strategy? Can you read men’s minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:29 PM
0

Let’s be serious: I’ve never seen a woman persist in pursuing a passive man, whereas I’ve seen plenty of men continue to be consistently present in a woman’s life even when she gave them very little encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:27 PM
-1

The fact that you prefer men to make the first move doesn’t protect you from getting hurt—you all know that very well. In fact, the men who know how to take the initiative are often the very ones who have no problem collecting notches on their belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:25 PM
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You could always get up off your chair and be the one who’s consistently present for a man—seek him out, spend time with him, even walk him home or accompany him on his commute. Why don’t you? The answer is simple: because there’s always someone else willing to do that work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:23 PM
1

There are men who stay in relationships with women they don’t love simply because they want regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:19 PM
1

What makes you so certain that he isn’t interested? Can you read a man’s mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:18 PM
-3

I don’t understand. A man’s desire doesn’t depend on what a woman does or says. It depends almost entirely on the fact that she has a body he finds sexually attractive. Male desire doesn’t depend on the female mind. It’s a genuinely spontaneous form of desire, directed toward objective physical reality rather than toward what another person does or says in order to make herself known.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:07 PM
-1

So you’re saying it depends on what a man does or says—that is, on the man’s mind? If that’s the case, then the idea that women’s desire is entirely spontaneous is just a story many women tell themselves, since it seems to depend fundamentally on a man’s actions and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:05 PM
-1

So you’re saying it depends on what a man does or says—that is, on the man’s mind? If that’s the case, then the idea that women’s desire is entirely spontaneous is just a story many women tell themselves, since it seems to depend fundamentally on a man’s actions and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:02 PM
-1

No, it depends on whether he makes himself known or not—on the way he acts, speaks, and interacts with her. If he had stayed in the background, she probably wouldn’t even have known he existed. So why does women’s desire for a relationship seem to depend so much on what a man does or says?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:57 PM
-1

And why is the way a man interacts with you so important in triggering your desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:54 PM
-2

There are men who keep to themselves and never make a move because they don’t want to bother anyone or come across as intrusive. To women, do these men essentially become invisible, despite their good intentions? Does that mean the men who end up succeeding are simply the ones who aren’t afraid to be present and make their interest known? Is that how you see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:53 PM
3

There are men who keep to themselves and never make a move because they don’t want to bother anyone or come across as intrusive. To women, do these men essentially become invisible, despite their good intentions? Does that mean the men who end up succeeding are simply the ones who aren’t afraid to be present and make their interest known? Is that how you see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:52 PM
-4

Because that person is a man. He has a male body and a penis. Isn’t that enough? In the opposite situation, it certainly would be for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:48 PM
0

That’s right. Sexual interest is what primarily drives men, even though many women have been taught to believe otherwise. Love is only a possible consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:47 PM
0

If he had remained passive, she would never have developed any interest in him. That’s exactly what all of you keep saying. So you’re essentially confirming that your desire for a relationship (and for sex) depends on what a man does or says—in other words, that it’s shaped by the man’s actions and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:44 PM
-2

Indifference may come across as a lack of interest. But if women actually stopped to think about it, they might realize that what looks like indifference could simply mean that an interested man doesn’t want to bother her—in other words, that his restraint is itself a sign of consideration and interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:42 PM
-5

And why do you look for social skills in a man? Why does a man have to perform and be useful to your interests? I couldn’t care less whether a woman has social skills or not, or whether she’s intelligent or stupid. My attraction isn’t triggered by what a woman does or says—it’s simply triggered if she has huge boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:39 PM
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No. All he’s demonstrated is that he wants to sleep with her. Love, for a man, is at most a possible consequence—not the primary goal. And women are complicit in this, because you make your romantic desire depend on what a man does or says in order to win you over. How is it possible that you don’t see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:36 PM
-2

No. He made himself attractive to her—that’s different. If he had remained passive, she would never have been attracted to him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:34 PM
-2

But if he hadn’t been present, she probably wouldn’t have chosen him. In fact, she might not even have known he existed. So does a woman’s desire for a relationship depend primarily on what a man does or says? Or is it more about the fact that he consistently shows up and makes himself part of her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:30 PM
-9

So you’re saying you’d always choose from the people who actually made a move, and never from those who, because of shyness or a fear of bothering you, never approached you at all? Do you realize that this wouldn’t really be a completely spontaneous choice, but one that’s influenced by what a man does—or doesn’t do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:29 PM
-7

So you’re saying you’d always choose from the people who actually made a move, and never from those who, because of shyness or a fear of bothering you, never approached you at all? Do you realize that this wouldn’t really be a completely spontaneous choice, but one that’s influenced by what a man does—or doesn’t do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:27 PM
-2

And why is that? Don’t women experience spontaneous desire that’s independent of what a man does or says? Aren’t you capable of developing romantic interest on your own, regardless of a man’s actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:26 PM
-14

Why not? Fifteen minutes a day would be enough for me, out of the other 24 hours when she can do whatever she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:24 PM
-1

Maybe the guy who seemed more present is simply more extroverted and actively pursues what he wants, while the other one is more reserved and doesn’t want to come across as a bother. Not wanting to bother someone can actually be a sign that you genuinely care about them. Is it really that hard for women to understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:23 PM
-9

Maybe the guy who seemed more present is simply more extroverted and actively pursues what he wants, while the other one is more reserved and doesn’t want to come across as a bother. Not wanting to bother someone can actually be a sign that you genuinely care about them. Is it really that hard for women to understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:22 PM
-27

I’d happily choose the distant and reserved one if she had huge boobs and was willing to have sex with me at least once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:17 PM
-4

But if he hadn’t been present, she probably wouldn’t have chosen him. In fact, she might not even have known he existed. So does a woman’s desire for a relationship depend primarily on what a man does or says? Or is it more about the fact that he consistently shows up and makes himself part of her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:15 PM
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But if he hadn’t been present, she probably wouldn’t have chosen him. In fact, she might not even have known he existed. So does a woman’s desire for a relationship depend primarily on what a man does or says? Or is it more about the fact that he consistently shows up and makes himself part of her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 PM
1

But if a man doesn’t try again, how can he know she’ll say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:19 AM
1

For a man, at the beginning of a relationship, it doesn’t matter whether she’s in love with him or not. His main goal is to get laid. Everything else is up to fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:12 PM
1

We’re talking about why a woman changes her mind after saying no. What I’m saying is that she changes her mind because the guy tried again—maybe after some time had passed, whether weeks or even months—possibly catching her at a moment when she was emotionally vulnerable. If he hadn’t tried again, nothing would have happened, and her original “no” would have remained a definitive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:37 PM
1

When a woman changes her mind, it’s usually because the guy tried again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:26 PM
1

I was making a different point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:35 PM
0

Because they don’t know how to say what women want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:33 PM
1

Of course the main goal is sex! Why else do you think a man approaches a woman? Because he’s looking for someone to play poker or chess with? She told me that her current husband kept giving her attention even when she wanted nothing to do with him. Eventually, though, she changed her mind, and they ended up getting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:19 PM
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> “A woman changing her mind months later doesn’t invalidate her original “no”.” …It only shows that she’s someone whose sexual desire depends on a man’s ability to ignite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:13 PM
1

I actually understood your point perfectly. Your post can basically be summed up like this: if you want to learn how to attract and date women successfully, you should ask the men who are good at it, not the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:56 PM
1

The fact that some women are annoyed by my questions interests me less than what happens in an anthill in the garden of some random person in Papua New Guinea—in other words, not at all. What I do care about is getting answers to my question, hearing different perspectives, and reading people’s observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:31 PM
1

I’m Italian, so I come from a Western cultural background. From what I’ve seen in discussions on Italian Reddit and from comparing different perspectives, it seems that in the English-speaking world, a woman’s “no” is generally much more definitive. In other words, an American or British woman is less likely to change her mind about a particular man. In Latin countries, including Italy, however, it often happens that some women say “no” even when they actually mean “yes.” They may do this becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:04 PM
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Because in most cases, the only essential difference between a man who has had relationships with women and a man who has never had that opportunity is simply the former’s ability to inspire trust, evoke emotions, and make women feel comfortable. These are skills that can be learned, although doing so inevitably means accepting that you’ll face rejection along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:06 AM
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The point is that a man can’t know how the situation might develop if he gives up immediately. Is that really so difficult to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:03 AM
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Personally, I’ve known men who eventually succeeded even after receiving several clear and unequivocal rejections. The other day, a female colleague told me that her husband kept pursuing her for weeks—quite persistently—even though she turned him down over and over again. They’ve now been together for ten years and have two children. If he had given up after the first “no,” their love story would never have begun, and two lives would never have come into existence. So, can we say that many rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:20 AM
1

Are you suggesting that a man should be persistent? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:41 AM
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We can flip your argument. If you don’t do all those things, how is he meant to know you’re interested in him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:00 PM
1

Possiamo ribaltare la tua risposta. Se tu non fai tutte queste cose, lui come fa a sapere che ti piace?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:56 PM
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Yeah, that’s how it goes most of the time. I get the feeling that even they don’t know how an interested man is supposed to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:49 PM
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Wrong. You’re primarily attracted to men who are socially and emotionally competent. On the other hand, you tend to avoid men who struggle to connect emotionally and are socially awkward. I always have to explain everything to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:42 AM
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What you’re saying isn’t entirely true. Women are attracted to men who are desired by other women, while they tend to avoid men that no woman has wanted. Men, on the other hand, are more inclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:38 AM
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Because I’m a man, and when I run into an ex, my mind definitely doesn’t go to the romantic dinners or the sunsets we shared… if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:29 AM
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I completely agree. Women hold the power, yet they believe no one has the right to comment on them, criticize them, or express personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:21 AM
-4

Simply because the guy is the one doing the pounding, and the girl is the one getting pounded. It’s that simple!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:00 AM
-4

Most parents feel proud when their son is alone in his room with a girl, but not when it’s their daughter with a boy. You can’t defy nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:47 AM
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Simply because the man holds the hammer, and the one who strikes is always right compared to the one being struck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:22 AM
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Why? Are you worried that whenever they run into your wife, they think about the intimate moments they shared with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 AM
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Once and for all, this is the main distinction women make: men who can make them feel something, make them feel alive, and create genuine chemistry, versus men who are emotionally constipated, boring, and socially awkward. The former have a chance of sleeping with a woman; the latter might as well not exist. Unfortunately, that’s just how women are, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:24 AM
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If it were that easy… But the real question is: why should it be difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:29 AM

He didn’t write that women are rapists. He wrote that, generally speaking, a woman can get as much sex as she wants without having to make much effort—she simply has to make herself available for sex. So it’s fair to say that this is a kind of advantage women have, and one that many men would like to have themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:45 AM
1

I didn’t write that. You’re falsely accusing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:56 AM
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If your consent has to depend on a man’s behavior, you’ll never experience desire that is truly free and spontaneous. You’ll always be dependent on a man’s mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:47 AM
1

We need to get to the root of the problem if we want real change: Where does your desire come from, and why does it depend on the way a man behaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:43 AM
1

The question you should ask yourself is: Why does my consent depend primarily on a man’s ability to successfully obtain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:40 AM
1

But why do you make it depend on a man’s ability to make you feel emotions and put you at ease? Those are far more fleeting and easily replicated by a man who’s used to approaching every woman he’s attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:32 AM
1

And does your consent depend on a man’s ability to obtain it? What is it, a transaction? A job interview to get hired somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:18 AM
1

But why should a man have to put in effort if he wants to get laid? What is this, a job recruitment process? A job interview to get hired? Do you realize that you’re basically saying a woman’s desire depends on a man’s effort, his actions, and his behavior, rather than on who he is and how he naturally appears to the five senses? Do you realize that, under this logic, the men who will be rewarded the most are those who have no problem approaching lots of women because they know exactly what to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:10 AM
1

Unfortunately, beauty is not what distinguishes men who have an active sex life from those who don’t. Rather, it’s having game—knowing how to make women feel emotions, being fun, holding interesting conversations, and having charisma, confidence, and self-assurance. Of course, being good-looking helps a man a lot, but without personality and character, he won’t get very far with women. That’s because, unfortunately (for women), their attraction to a man depends largely on his personality, the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:02 AM
1

Sooner or later, that bra has to reveal what’s underneath. And if what’s underneath is a pair of cocker spaniel ears, it’s game over for the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:08 PM
1

Big breasts can’t tell lies. They appear and are desired for what they are, not for the story they tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:03 PM
0

More than anything, I pity you. Basing your desire to have sex on a man’s ability and charm means allowing yourself to be dominated by another human being’s mind. Besides—and you probably know this better than I do—the ability to use language well and evoke emotions can also be used to deceive, manipulate, and fake feelings or good intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:45 AM
1

If women picked men at random instead of letting themselves be influenced by certain men’s charm, social skills, and ability to create attraction, they’d end up with far fewer disappointments and would meet far fewer opportunistic men disguised as gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:55 AM
1

I already said it: when someone asks you a direct question, you can simply answer yes or no, and that’s the end of it—no hard feelings. Is that really so difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:46 AM
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Basing your decision about whether to let a man into your body, your intimacy, and your personal space on his ability and skill to make you feel emotions—and, in doing so, giving him the opportunity to enjoy himself and possess you physically—is not the same as going to the theater or reading a book. Your comment is clearly either made in bad faith or simply ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:44 AM
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No, it would all be much simpler if a question got a prompt answer. If a woman I’d never met walked up to me in a bar and told me she wanted to fuck me, it would take me about two nanoseconds—the time it takes to scan her—to give her an answer. Simple. No melodrama
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:39 AM
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And that answers your question. I hope I’ve given you something to think about. It’s never too late to break free from the Matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:24 AM
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In my view as a man, for a woman to get me hard, it’s enough for her to have a reasonably attractive body (I’m into women with big breasts). I couldn’t care less whether she’s funny, intelligent, or boring and apathetic. If I want to be entertained, I’ll go to a comedy show. If I want excitement, I’ll go to an amusement park. If I want to hear interesting ideas, I’ll watch a documentary on philosophy or quantum mechanics—not seek out the company of a woman. So I don’t understand why women’s sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:16 AM
0

Well, you should be able to work that out for yourself. If a woman’s desire to have sex mainly depends on a man’s ability to make her feel emotions, on how good he is with women, and on his ability to make her feel at ease, then she’s letting the man’s mind shape and determine her decision of whether to sleep with him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:09 AM
1

So let me understand your logic as a woman: if a man wants me to sleep with him, he has to make me feel emotions, make me feel at ease, and engage me intellectually? To me, that sounds more like a transactional exchange—a carefully measured give-and-take—than spontaneous desire, generosity, and genuine self-determination
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:56 AM
1

So women don’t experience spontaneous desire, and it all comes down to a man’s ability to spark it? And yet you consider yourselves generally more intelligent?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:45 AM
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A blunt question: why would a man put in all that effort to win a woman over if all he wants is to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:34 AM
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Your arguments make perfect sense. Women don’t want to admit that being hit on instead of hitting on men themselves is more convenient and requires much less time and effort. It’s easier and more comfortable to simply decide whether the answer will be yes or no than to put themselves in a position where a man gets to decide whether they’re a suitable choice or not. They’d rather leave that responsibility and risk to men. And, as you rightly pointed out, it’s precisely those men who have no shame…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:34 AM
2

But what makes you so certain that he’ll be honest about his intentions from the start? Maybe his strategy is to make you fall in love with him so he’ll have a better chance of getting you into bed, only to dump you a few weeks later after you’ve given him everything—even anal sex. To me, your reasoning seems to be based on the idea that it’s easier (and more cowardly) to choose from the people who approach you than to go after what you actually want yourself. And you can afford to think that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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Because, for him, other people’s attention is the reward. If everyone agreed to ignore him, your social butterfly would probably start getting irritated like a child because one of his needs wouldn’t be met—he wouldn’t get the narcissistic reward of socializing and receiving attention from others. When he was pursuing you and trying to win you over, his reward was earning your trust. Everything that came after that belongs to the two of you and your private relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:45 PM
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If a man doesn’t make a move, he gets nothing. We all agree on that, right? If a man does make a move, he at least has a chance. So what would you call that, if not “acting with the aim of getting something”? We all know what that “something” is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:29 PM
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And how are you supposed to know whether a man who’s pursuing you and courting you for weeks actually just wants to get you into bed, use you for sex over a weekend, and then dump you without a second thought? How are you supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:23 PM
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Do you realize that what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense? According to your point of view, the relationship between a man and a woman is inherently asymmetrical—that if the relationship goes badly, it’s mainly the woman who loses out, when in reality both people lose equally. And what does violence have to do with it? A violent man could be anyone, even someone who courted you for months before you finally said yes, only to reveal his true nature a few months into the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:19 PM
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Fair point. Now let’s see what they come up with to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:15 PM
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What do you mean? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:12 PM
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So, waiting for the man to make the first move can basically be summed up as a cowardly way of avoiding responsibility? In the sense that, if it doesn't work out, you can always say, "Well, he was the one who made the first move. I just accepted. I only said yes." So your responsibility is supposedly only half of it. But what you overlook is that if you're the one who makes the first move and he accepts, the responsibility is still shared equally. So your argument simply doesn't make any logical…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:39 PM

A sad truth. But you’re implicitly saying that your desire for a man depends on what he does and what he says to make you choose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:10 AM
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For a man, it’s enough that a woman has a body he finds sexually attractive to spark his interest. Nobody cares whether she’s stupid or boring; all that matters is that she has a nice pair of big, firm breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:36 AM
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It’s not about the fact that you gave him attention, but about the fact that he considers your body worthy of his attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:34 AM
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I’ve already addressed that point: how a man presents himself cannot tell you what kind of person he truly is or how he will behave in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:04 AM
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a man can easily feel interest in a woman—especially sexual interest—even if she ignores him, dislikes him, or would rather have nothing to do with him, as long as he finds her physically attractive. What I don’t understand is why many women seem to need some kind of feedback, attention, or validation before they can develop even a minimal level of interest. If attraction is supposed to be genuine, shouldn’t it exist independently of whether the other person is already showing interest? That’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:38 AM
-1

You have no guarantee that someone who shows interest in you and makes you feel important, valued, and loved won’t later turn out to be a dangerous or psychologically unstable person. Some of the greatest criminals in history were highly skilled at manipulating others, including women. The ability to attract attention, make people feel special, or create an emotional connection is not necessarily a sign of good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:35 AM
-2

The real question you should ask yourself is: why do I feel the need to know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:22 AM
1

I have never witnessed a genuinely critical discussion in which a woman was asked to account for her relationship choices, despite the fact that those choices can have social consequences within her circle of acquaintances. For example, I have never seen anyone ask her why she chose Anthony rather than Brad or Michael, and openly discuss the criteria that guided that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:13 PM
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No, I maintain that anyone who holds power cannot object to criticism. They cannot expect their choices—choices that have social consequences—to be beyond judgment and criticism. A woman is free to make whatever choices she wants and to exercise her power in whatever way she considers most appropriate, but she cannot expect society and the social group to which she belongs to ignore those choices, whether for better or for worse. Learn to think for yourselves, and many things will become crystal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:53 PM
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I am talking about power—sexual power, the power to decide which men are allowed in and which will be kept out—not about depriving oneself of body parts to donate them to other people. You are mixing up two completely unrelated things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:42 PM
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And this is where all of you are mistaken: this is the mainstream narrative aimed at people who do not think independently. Women have always held sexual power; they decide who is granted access to their favors and who is left out. Since this is a form of power with social consequences, it must be subject to scrutiny and accountability. There is no form of power that cannot be criticized, even harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:14 PM
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For reasons of social fairness: a world in which some men change partners every week (because they have no qualms about treating women as sexual objects) while others will die virgins simply because they “don’t know how to play the game” is, by definition, an unjust world. It is strange that women, who are often so concerned about discrimination and inequality, pretend that this problem does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:48 AM
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This is false. Every time women have occupied positions of power, they have proven to be no less cruel or ruthless than men, particularly when making decisions concerning war. Just look at Margaret Thatcher’s order to sink the Argentine cruiser ARA General Belgrano, which resulted in the deaths of 323 sailors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:31 AM
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We’ve already understood that. What you women don’t seem to understand is that men—especially the smarter and more opportunistic ones—use the display of emotions (even when they’re faked) simply to get sex from women. It’s not something these men genuinely feel; rather, it’s a mechanism, a tool, a tactic used to create trust and desire in a woman in order to gain access to her sexual favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:26 AM
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On the contrary, it seems to me that the way women choose their partners is inherently misandrist. If women truly loved men, they would give all men a chance, not just those capable of providing emotions, entertainment, attention, and romantic fantasies. Furthermore, this method of selecting partners tends to attract precisely those men who are skilled at deception—pretending to have feelings and telling emotionally appealing lies simply to get sex. In other words, it rewards the worst elements …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:12 PM
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A man can easily feel sexual desire and passion for a woman who is boring, one-dimensional, apathetic, and brings no emotional benefit whatsoever to his life, as long as she has a reasonably attractive body (for many men, it’s enough that she’s breathing). It seems to me that women apply economic or business-like criteria when deciding whether to have a relationship with a man. In other words, the man has to ‘work’ and be functional to the woman’s emotional needs (and not only her emotional need…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:59 PM
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So, if I understand correctly, a woman doesn’t love a man for who he is, but for what he can offer her—including emotional fulfillment and enjoyment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:44 PM
1

What if you were interested in him, but he did everything he could to hide his interest? Would you still think he wasn’t interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:38 PM
1

Not even a suspicion? Not even a thought like, ‘Maybe he’s just pretending not to care’?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:13 PM
1

By ‘engage more,’ do you mean they would try to interact with you more? Not necessarily. Some men hide their interest precisely by avoiding interactions and acting as indifferent as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:04 PM
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There are some men (though not many) who hide their interest by pretending to be indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:50 PM
1

So you suspected something was going on. Did he tend to look at you a lot, or did he usually avoid eye contact with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:15 PM
1

What made you realize he was interested in you despite trying to hide it? Were there any particular behaviors or signs that gave him away?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:09 PM
1

So he did a good job of hiding his interest, and it only became obvious when he asked you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:05 PM
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False. A woman who is considered reasonably attractive constantly receives attention from men, even if she does nothing to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:11 PM

I disagree. Physical appearance in a man is simply a bonus; what really matters is personality. A man who is physically unremarkable but funny, passionate, intelligent, and proactive is far more attractive than men who are objectively handsome but apathetic, boring, and unintelligent. The mistake you—and many other men—make is projecting male preferences onto women. Women operate differently, and the responses in this discussion are proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:45 AM
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It’s curious how you mention a woman’s physical characteristics and equate them, in terms of unattractiveness, to the personality traits of boring and apathetic men, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:36 PM
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There’s one difference, though: the women you mentioned can still find someone willing to sleep with them fairly easily, whereas their male counterpart spends his life masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:08 PM
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And what exactly would your advantage be instead? Making sexual desire depend on what a man “does or says”? That’s why seducers who succeed with women and treat you like objects of pleasure are successful — I don’t know if you realize that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:44 AM
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Men are more inclusive and can easily feel sexual attraction toward a boring, stupid, and apathetic woman as long as she has an acceptable body. A man does not make his sexual desire depend on what a woman 'does or says.' This is men's strength: not being influenced by a woman's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:44 AM
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Look, a man can easily feel sexual attraction toward a woman who doesn’t make him feel comfortable, a woman he detests and with whom he would never want any kind of relationship beyond a simple one-night fuck. Men aren’t strange—it’s you women who have to translate everything emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:56 AM
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But if the male does nothing, the woman does not take action. Therefore, male action is necessary to activate female decision-making. Conversely, as already explained, male desire exists independently of what a woman does or says — that is, independently of a woman's brain. Making one's desire dependent on a man's brain (on his savoir-faire, his social skills) means having conditioned desire, not independent and instinctive as you women want to claim. This collapses like a house of cards your na…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:04 AM
1

The example is correct. Rather, tell me why you think it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:37 AM
1

Puppets depend on the puppeteer's skill for their movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:27 AM
1

A woman's body, not a woman's brain! Making your desire depend on a man's ability means surrendering to that man's brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:21 AM
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In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:19 AM
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In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:19 AM
1

In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:18 AM
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In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:17 AM
1

In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:55 AM
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In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:54 AM
1

In practice, you are implicitly stating that female sexual desire depends on the man’s ability and skill to ignite and sustain it for the purpose of intercourse. Making a woman feel at ease, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations—these are all traits that come from the man’s brain. So you are all essentially saying that your desire depends on the male brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:54 AM
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You’re reasoning like a woman, not like a man. A man considers having sex with a woman always a joy, even if she gave it to him out of compassion (no woman has sex out of compassion).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:28 AM
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I explained it at the beginning: in short, male selection has a much wider filter than female selection. In practice, women can access male favors more easily — that is the meaning of the term 'social-democratic'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:21 PM

Here’s the usual misunderstanding — the female brain, as usual, cannot understand the male one. A woman is liked regardless of her personality and character; as long as she has an acceptable body, a man is ready to have sex with her, even if she’s the stupidest woman on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:06 PM
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My point is that, since men are more social-democratic than women in their sexual choices, for any woman to have access to good sex is definitely easier. She just has to show she’s available; sooner or later a man will come along who will take care of her request. But is it so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:02 PM

But who said anything about violence? I was talking about making women understand that a man is not judged and chosen based on whether he is capable of making a woman feel comfortable and giving her emotions. Look, if things continue like this, the day will come when a good number of men will refuse to help you and will turn their backs on you, simply because they were never chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:00 PM

It's curious how you took care to cut off the rest of the conversation — perhaps because admitting that one's sexual desire depends on a man's ability to ignite it conflicts with the narrative that female sexual desire is independent and spontaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:50 PM
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My argument is that women divide men into two broad categories: men who know how to excite them and make them feel at ease (and who therefore have a chance of being chosen for sex), and men who don't know how to excite a woman or make her feel comfortable (and who therefore will never be chosen). Men are social democrats in their choices, whereas women behave like the most ruthless capitalist monopolist. The next time I hear a woman complain that we live in an unfair and socially unjust world, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:37 PM

But women do something even more ruthless and despicable: they divide men into two broad categories—namely, men who know how to excite them and make them feel at ease (and who therefore have a chance of being chosen for sex), and men who don't know how to excite a woman or make her feel comfortable (and who therefore will never be chosen). Men are social democrats in their choices, whereas women behave like the most ruthless capitalist monopolist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:33 PM
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Synthetic answer: because 1) it's not certain that Don Draper isn't a carrier of STDs, given that he's been successful with other women, whereas George McFly is highly likely to be a virgin, and therefore sexually cleaner; 2) it's not certain that in the case of an unwanted pregnancy, Don Draper would be a present and loving father (it's very likely he would see fatherhood as an obstacle instead), whereas the awkward George McFly would almost certainly be a present and loving father, because he …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:39 PM
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Yes, but I don't understand why this whole 'I need to feel comfortable' thing only applies to you women, while for us men it doesn't matter whether a woman makes us feel comfortable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:33 PM
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So do you think it’s justifiable that there are men who get laid every night (because they know how to do it) and others who will die virgins simply because they 'don’t know how to do it'? Next time I hear a woman say she wants a more equal and just world, I’m going to give her a nice raspberry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:30 PM
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SPOILER: TUTTI gli uomini vedono le donne principalmente come degli oggetti sessuali, anche e sopratutto quelli che hanno più successo (cioè che voi donne scegliete più frequentemente).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:25 PM
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Do you find it justifiable that there is a large number of men in the world who have no access to the good of sex because they "don't know how to handle it" – "don't know how to entertain" – "don't know how to make women laugh" – "don't know how to excite" – "don't know how to make women feel comfortable" – "don't know how to tell women what they want to hear"? Do you find it justifiable that a woman's desire depends on a man's ability to generate it, and therefore on the man's brain (about your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:23 PM
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Less competition over a scarce resource = less social conflict. If awkward, low-status George McFly had the same sexual opportunities as charismatic, high-status Don Draper, the intense male-male struggle for reproduction would drop. That means fewer frustrated men, less violence, less hierarchy-driven rage. A more equal distribution of access to intimacy isn't just fairer – it's a recipe for social peace. And yet: this logic feels obvious to most men, but absurd to most women. Why? Because wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:11 PM
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Dismissing a man because he can't make you laugh or put you at ease, relegating him to a lifetime of jerking off, is not a virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:56 PM
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However, the risk of diseases is statistically greater if you go to bed with the "charismatic-charming-funny-socially-adept" guy (who has definitely slept with a truckload of women before you) compared to the socially-inept-Miltonesque-boring-socially-phobic guy who, by his very nature, is highly likely to still be a virgin. And even in the case of unwanted pregnancies, it's far from proven that a subject described as more desirable would be a better and more present father than the second one. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:37 PM
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You just dangerously stated that female sexual desire depends on the man's ability to ignite it and keep it alive (at least until he gets what he was looking for, namely the sexual act). As if you were saying that sex is a prize that a man must earn by entertaining a woman, making her feel comfortable, and making pleasant conversation to arouse her desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:03 PM
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I don't want to seem like the one who weighs things with the social justice scale, but between the two genders, the more social-democratic one seems to me to be the male gender – that is, in practice, the good 'casual sex' is more easily attainable by women than by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:52 PM
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Most socially inept people are peaceful and not at all dangerous. To draw a cinematic parallel, they are like George McFly (before he became self-confident and charismatic).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:08 AM
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So, men are more democratic about sex, meaning that most women stand a chance of copulating with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:33 AM
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You are implicitly stating that female desire depends on the man’s skill and ability to ignite it. Therefore, when a woman says her desire for a man is free and spontaneous, she is essentially lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:04 AM
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The other gender can still choose to help if they see the other gender struggling. We’re all in the same boat, but evidently some people are expected to row harder than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:42 PM
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Nice comment, congratulations on the well-developed analysis. So you believe that social and relational skills are a determining factor in a man’s sexual success, much more than they would be for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:45 PM

Honestly, I’ve never met men who cried or became desperate because they were used for sex by a woman. If it happens, in the vast majority of cases there’s definitely disappointment, but with time what remains is the good memory of having had some great sex (without consequences).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:57 AM
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Many men are perfectly aware that the reason some women choose to be in a relationship with them is because those men have something to offer. A wealthy man from my town was once told: “You do realize she’s only with you because you have money, right?” And he replied: “Of course I know. I’m not naive. But don’t worry — I’ll make sure she pays for every cent of it.” So I don’t understand why it’s considered normal when a woman approaches relationships in a somewhat opportunistic way — benefiting …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:33 AM
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But by saying that, you’re implicitly admitting that female attraction depends heavily on a man’s ability to generate it — and to maintain it over time in the case of long-term relationships. In other words, for many women, attraction toward men is not simply passive or automatic, but conditional on the man’s social, emotional and psychological performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:18 AM

I think some people are missing the point of the comparison. Many men would genuinely feel flattered knowing that there are women who would want to sleep with them simply because they exist. Most men never experience that kind of effortless sexual desirability. So I don’t fully understand the outrage from some women when they talk about being sexually desired or objectified, considering that women are often viewed through a sexual lens by men — especially by the men who are considered the most a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:14 AM

I honestly don't know any women — even the least attractive ones — who don't have at least 2 or 3 men willing to have sex with them. So if women were like men in that regard, I’d say that even socially inept, unattractive or unpleasant men would have far more sexual opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:08 AM

Your comparison is anthropologically interesting: an aesthetically unattractive woman for a man is, in many ways, equivalent to a socially inept man for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:58 AM
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Because for most women, a man is not valued simply for what he is, but for what he is able to offer — emotionally, socially, psychologically and relationally as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:51 AM
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So you’re implicitly saying that a woman’s desire to mate depends on a man’s ability to generate and sustain that desire over time — especially in long-term relationships. In other words, male passivity, insecurity, lack of initiative and emotional/social presence don’t just reduce attraction temporarily; they eventually extinguish it altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:37 AM
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It may be unethical, but if a man told the truth in the first seconds of meeting a woman, he could say goodbye to his chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:30 PM
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I would teach her not to find attractive the men that other women consider attractive. I would tell her that a “devoted ornament” is more reliable than one who is successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:55 AM
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You are implicitly claiming that if men want to satisfy their needs, they cannot tell women the truth, but must deceive them. You are implicitly justifying those who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:52 AM
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Yours is not a counterargument; you are just reporting your life experience, with unsolicited and unprovable opinions about me and my own life experience. Do everyone a favor: learn to offer valid counterarguments, and before quoting a statement, make sure you have read the entire discussion at least ten times, so maybe it will get into your head and stay there. You continue to act in bad faith and are trying to subjectivize the object of the discussion, so you are doubly acting in bad faith and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:55 AM
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All you had to do was offer counterarguments, not little emojis. You weren’t capable of that. Don’t contaminate me with your ignorance, and return to the nothingness you came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:39 AM
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The only thing you know how to do is use little emojis and repeat other people’s statements. I’d say it’s clear to everyone reading you that you can’t counterargue and that you’re just trying to save face after the embarrassments you keep making. If I were you, I’d feel deeply ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:17 AM
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My opinion on the matter is supported by the fact that I started this discussion; you’re the one who hasn’t brought any counterarguments. The fact that you need to cite a scientist shows that you can’t even articulate an original thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:09 AM
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You quoted, in bad faith, only what was convenient for you to quote, ignoring—again in bad faith—everything else. Anyway, you’ve shown what you’re worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:52 AM
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Don’t change the subject. You quoted what suited you without taking the rest of the discussion into account. You’re acting in bad faith and you’ve been exposed. You’d make a better impression by staying quiet now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:39 AM

A man who does or says nothing does not have sex with a woman; therefore, if he wants to have any chance of having sex with a woman, he has to do or say something that arouses desire in her. This is logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:19 AM
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I think that before criticizing someone, you should read everything they have written and not just what is convenient for you to quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:18 AM

Men obtain sex from women simply because a man is not desired for intercourse for how he appears, but mainly for what he does or says to arouse desire in her. A man who does or says nothing, in fact, gets nothing from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:01 AM
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The argument continues with a clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:59 AM
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The correct phrasing is: “I don’t want to date a guy who doesn’t know how to make himself attractive.” Well, a woman who is the cause of her own troubles should blame herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:58 AM
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I didn’t write that. Read it again, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:51 AM

But why choose men “who know how to handle themselves,” who can also be skilled liars, when there are socially awkward men who are incapable of lying? Perhaps because the former are more exciting than the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:30 PM
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If you choose the wrong men, you should try to understand why you’re attracted to men who behave this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:06 PM
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A man forgets all his problems if he has a woman who provides him with sex regularly. I’m surprised that you women still haven’t understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:01 PM
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A cunning man is very good at understanding what a woman lacks. No woman is impossible for certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:59 PM
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It seems to me that this is more of a characteristic of women—the tendency to look for a man who wants to listen to their problems and show understanding. Most men are already satisfied with a relationship if they can have sex every evening before going to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:58 PM
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The more cunning men know well when something is impossible and therefore give up, or when there are openings—opportunities they will leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:54 PM
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Men don’t seek empathy from women; an adult man knows very well that women don’t have sex out of compassion or pity. An adult man knows that if he wants a woman to desire sex, he has to make her want it—by making her feel comfortable, making her laugh, having interesting and emotionally engaging conversations, listening to her… and so on… in short, you women know better than I do what men come up with to get sex from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:52 PM
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It’s not a smart tactic; the more clever and cunning men know how to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:46 PM
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Not just holes. Also breasts, legs, feet, face…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:42 PM
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Accept it in the sense of “accepting male nature.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:20 PM
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Women, for men, are first and foremost sexual objects before they are people. The sooner you women understand this, the sooner many dynamics that you don’t understand will become clear to you—dynamics that have always been right in front of your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:15 PM
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I think that if a genie appeared and asked any man for three wishes, one of them would be: to be able to easily sleep with all the women I’m attracted to and would like to have sex with, without any difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:09 PM
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What would the alternative be? I don’t think violence is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:05 PM
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A man who, when he was young, changed women every day is very likely to continue this behavior as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:03 PM
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Because in my life experience I’ve noticed that the traits that make a man attractive are the ability to make women feel at ease and to engage in conversations that women find interesting. Of course, physical appearance helps, but only if there is a personality and character that women find appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:02 PM
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Maybe I didn’t explain myself well: romanticism, making a woman laugh, making her feel good, making her feel comfortable—these are the levers, the keys, through which men obtain sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:59 PM
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In summary: a man’s attractiveness can decrease over time; moreover, pursuing a different woman every week can become tiring in the long run, and the outcome is not guaranteed. That’s why many men eventually get married: it ensures them a regular sex life with their wife, while they continue to try with other women for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:57 PM
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Adult men know very well that sex is not central in a woman’s life; they know that a woman can easily go for months, if not even years, without having sex. That’s why romanticism exists, that’s why gallantry exists—knowing how to make a woman laugh, how to make her feel comfortable, protected, how to make her dream, and so on… it’s a way to make a woman desire sex. It is much simpler than you women might imagine, and it has always been right in front of your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:20 PM
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Many men, in order to have a regular sex life, settle for being with women who are not very demanding (especially because of their physical appearance).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:12 PM
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Or acknowledge the situation and accept it, because a relationship with a man is made up of more than just sex (a man still needs to recharge; he can’t be doing gymnastics in bed all the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:11 PM
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The 10% are those men who change women every week; I don’t know how wise it is for a woman to trust guys like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:57 PM
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Sure, you are also bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:53 PM
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Do you know what Johann Wolfgang von Goethe used to say? Women fall in love through their ears. Language can also convey deception and lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:51 PM
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The nature of all men is to have sex with different women every day. This benefit is accessible only to a very small number of men because of their attractiveness, charm, and ability with women. Most men, although they desire to have sex every day with a different woman, are not able to do so—they lack the capability, the charm, to achieve it. Therefore, the solution for having regular sex, for these men, is to enter into a long-term relationship. This is the summary—where do you see the contrad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:48 PM
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I understand your point, but in reality, if a man were completely honest about his intentions from the start, he would often risk losing the opportunity. Not everyone is willing to take that risk, even though ideally it would be the right thing to do. The problem with many women is that they don’t understand the male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:30 PM
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So female desire depends on a man’s ability and skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:05 PM
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Men are much less picky and demanding than women. Some men stay with women they don’t have an emotional connection with just to ensure a regular sex life. Generally, if a woman has an acceptable body, that’s more than enough for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:50 AM
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Because you’re not a man. Men need to have sex regularly, even with women they feel no emotional connection with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:15 AM
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I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:17 PM
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A man can’t afford to be picky. Some men look for a relationship with “the least bad option available” because they essentially need to have a regular sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:06 PM
1

The things you listed (social skills, relational abilities, etc.) come from a man’s brain—they don’t just fall from the sky by the work of the Holy Spirit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:04 PM
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Feel free to explain—I wanted to understand why a woman’s desire depends on a man’s ability to generate it, on his social skills, on what he says or does (so, on his brain).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:58 PM
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Which people are you talking about? Men included? No—this has already been explained to you: a man’s desire for intercourse doesn’t depend on a woman’s ability to relate socially. A man doesn’t base his desire on a woman’s brain. We’re not puppets who base our moves on the puppeteer’s skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:56 PM
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Why would a man with well-developed social skills be more attractive than a “devoted piece of furniture who’s too shy to even say hello to women”? It almost seems like your attraction to a man depends on his ability to relate, on his social skills and his ability to say interesting things (so, on his brain).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:54 PM
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My point was different. In any case, even for a one-night stand (so not for a long-term relationship), it’s still unclear why socially inept men are chosen less frequently than those with well-developed social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:50 PM
1

I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:47 PM
1

Lesson in male physiology: if I want to have sex with a woman, I need my penis to become erect (otherwise intercourse becomes impossible), so she has to be at least physically acceptable (she can be stupid, unpleasant, ignorant, crude, offensive, and socially inept—none of these traits matter to my penis). You women don’t have the issue of erection, so technically you can accept anyone, even a socially maladjusted man with poor social skills. P.S. I have a Pakistani friend whose ideal of beauty …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:43 PM

You’re implicitly claiming that women desire men who are desired by other women. In other words, you’re supporting the idea that women want to be part of a kind of harem—a collection belonging to a man who could have as many women as he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:36 PM
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I’ve already answered: you don’t have certainty—you can only rely on statistics, as I said. A man who is funny, who can make women laugh, who knows how to entertain, who has social skills, obviously will have many more opportunities compared to a “devoted piece of furniture who can’t even say hello to a woman.” So why choose the former rather than the latter if you want to maximize your chances of not being cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:31 PM
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With the difference that most men don’t care at all whether a woman has well-developed social skills; in fact, many men prefer her to be socially reserved and devoted only to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:27 PM
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It makes a person safer to wait their turn and cross at the crosswalk (accepting the boredom of waiting) than to take the risk of crossing when the light is red (because it’s more exciting and emotionally engaging to cross by taking a risk rather than waiting their turn in a boring way).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:25 PM
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I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:18 PM
1

I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:17 PM
2

I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:16 PM
1

I think that for a woman who believes in the social sciences and statistics (and therefore in science), it’s more likely to find a cheater among men who have strong social and relational skills with other women than among men who struggle to relate to women. So if a woman is looking for a faithful man, it’s hard to understand why she would choose someone from the first group rather than from the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:12 PM
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So, on a man’s mind—on his ability to make himself desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:43 PM
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So you’re confirming that women want a man that other women want—the so-called “harem theory.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:42 PM
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I didn’t write that. My desire for a woman doesn’t depend on her social skills. I (like many men) can easily desire a socially inept woman if she has a body that really turns me on. I don’t understand why it’s different for you women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:40 PM
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Great answer. I appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:36 PM
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So you’re confirming that women want a man that other women want—the so-called “harem theory.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:35 PM
0

So you’re confirming that women want a man that other women want—the so-called “harem theory.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:34 PM
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A man pays less attention to a woman’s social skills. Some men specifically look for a socially reserved woman because she’s less noticeable to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:33 PM
1

Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:31 PM
1

Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:30 PM
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Does women’s desire to mate depend on what a man “does or says,” and therefore on his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:20 PM
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Most men don’t have strong social skills and are essentially looking for a relationship to have a regular sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:39 PM
1

Exactly. Isn’t it enough for you that he is who he is to want a relationship with him? Does he have to make your life rich with meaning? Can’t you give meaning to your life on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:23 PM
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I don’t understand—are you saying that women are attracted to what a man has to offer, rather than to who he is? That sounds like a very opportunistic way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:20 PM
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It’s purely a statistical matter. Also, I don’t understand why a man with well-developed social skills would be considered more attractive than a socially inept one, given that even a socially inept man has a body, two hands, two legs and… (you know what I mean).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:15 PM
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It’s purely a statistical matter. Also, I don’t understand why a man with well-developed social skills would be considered more attractive than a socially inept one, given that even a socially inept man has a body, two hands, two legs and… (you know what I mean).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:14 PM
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The chances of cheating for a man with highly developed social skills are still higher than for a man who doesn’t know how to relate to women. So why take the risk with the first when the second is available?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:10 PM
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The chances of cheating for a man with highly developed social skills are still higher than for a man who doesn’t know how to relate to women. So why take the risk with the first when the second is available?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:08 PM
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All the other women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:54 PM
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No, I’m assuming that inability = inability to have opportunities to cheat, therefore loyalty. I don’t understand why many women can’t grasp something so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:51 PM
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You can always bring up new topics yourself if he’s not capable of it… or does your brain expect to be served and catered to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:45 PM
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But other women will also find him socially interesting…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:34 PM
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Even a socially inept man can have interesting conversations when he’s with his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:32 PM
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