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Red pill gets real traction, and what do you know, suddenly women are dissociating themselves from whatever we don't like. This is not an accident or a coincidence. They don't want to grow old alone with their cats.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 02:50 AM
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And guess what, now there's an anti-feminist movement. These girls are unplugging from the female agenda and saying "guys I am not like that, please give me a chance!" TRP will save America at least to some extent. Of course for women past the Wall it's too late, and we've taken away their betabux opportunities. Too bad so sad. :)
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 02:41 AM
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Speaking of divorce, his documentation here (and her reddit thread about it, not disputing its accuracy) will be helpful to his side in court. He tried, he really did, she cut him off, and here's the documentation. And knowing this, she feels her power in court slipping away. A bit of insurance usually provided to women, gone. And THAT may be why she is panicking. She didn't actually expect to have to be passionate, she was expecting more of an insurance scenario. Damn him for taking that away s…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 02:22 AM
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Freezing hubby out is not necessarily something her friends would validate. Don't expect problems from a woman's friends. They mainly talk posture talk to each other. If she admits to freezing hubby out, she might bet competition from her "friends" making friendly overtures directly to him.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 02:04 AM
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Nah, just either chuckle, or have this "serious conversation" and keep your responses light. She just wants you to get butthurt, to get some emotional traction. Keep it logical, stay tough. That's how men have serious conversations. Businesslike and rational. Let her melt down, don't you melt down. Then, you may have an opportunity after that emotional display from her, to take her back to the bedroom and have some great sex.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 01:09 AM
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Talking things out isn't what is needed, certainly not a "clothes on talk". That never works. Is that seduction? What is needed is seduction, game, asserting your drive for sex. I can't think of any situations where one should "talk things out" with a woman. If she breaks up with you, you certainly don't, she'll just insult you. If you break up with her, it hurts the chance she'll still stay attracted to you. Here, it would be ineffective and kill whatever desire was left.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 01:03 AM
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Yes, at least half the comments were reasonable. Many of those must have been from women. The one comment that was upvoted so much, well I don't trust those numbers. I think the mods or admins can jigger the numbers. When one post has hundreds more upvotes than others, are there really so many lurkers doing that? I don't think so. The mods of /r/relationships are much more feminist than the average poster. I just got banned for a thread where none of my posts were heavily downvoted.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 01:00 AM
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Yeah he's supposed to try harder eh? Not so much. She married him. If you supplicate to get sex, that's a turnoff. This approach is threatening and non supplicating, full of win. The proof is in her reaction!
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 11:07 PM
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Stuff that works, stuff she didn't expect, stuff she's a bit afraid of, certainly do stimulate vag tingles. The old way wasn't working. See all the hamstering she did in response? It wasn't her logical brain that did that to her, it was her vagina having a panic attack. Suddenly he stood up effectively, she got wet there, and she was trapped and couldn't even relieve it by giving him a bunch of verbal drama.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:55 PM
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Having sex bonds a woman to you via the action of oxytocin. Over time if there's no sex it wears off a bit. One way to revive it is to manage to have sex. I don't care if you call it duty sex or whatever, it's an involuntary physical reaction. Duty sex is fine. It is her duty after all. It's sex. Your balls get drained and she gets bonded. A woman who wants to cheat may first try to go a while without sex, so that she will escape the bond within herself. This is I think what happened with my wif…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:52 PM
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I am much older than that and have been married 20 years. I applaud the guy and think that if anything will work, this might be it. Or, it's evidence if he chooses the divorce route. It will not drive her away. Fighting a woman is how you keep them with you. Letting them run over you is how you get cuckolded, frivorced, etc. A marriage is work. A lot of this work isn't "constructive" in the best sense.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:38 PM
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So, did you successfully improve your sexually unfulfilling relationship? Or you just complain about that this guy tried without a better suggestion?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:20 PM
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That manly stuff doesn't work. You take her shit too seriously. It is impossible to reason responsibly with someone who is quite irresponsible. Just do what works. 13 year old boy is about right. It's what works in business too.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:09 PM
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Suppose they've been following the AFBB strategy. The betabux is expected to be compliant, but even he might give trouble before the wedding if the woman lets on her expectation that there won't be much sex in the marriage. And/or, women don't think that far ahead. If the woman is marrying an alpha, her vagina is telling her to do it and not taking any backtalk from her conscious mind. Later the conscious mind may snap the legs shut.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:40 PM
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Why do you think he didn't plan this strategy which is so effective? Learn from him.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:35 PM
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A lawyer answered on here in some other thread, saying it certainly could affect the settlement including custody, at least in some "no fault" states. Stop running dread game on us please. Stick to the facts if you know them.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:25 PM
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It's the sound of a hamster that's devastated that it's mood for an affair has been ruined. That whole long trip and he ruined it for her. It's brilliant.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:07 PM
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The most important thing they can do to maintain her attraction is regular sex. Whether she likes it or not with her conscious mind, that will cause the vagina to stay bonded to him. Her disliking it is probably because she is trying to break that bond and become free. He has to fight that shit if he wants stability, not being cuckolded, not being frivorced, etc. He has to establish the duty of sex, call it duty sex if you want.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:05 PM
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He wants it. And don't be so sure she would hate it. It still stimulates automatic physical responses in her body. No sex allows the natural attraction to drain away. Duty sex is, well, her duty. There's a reason for it. It works.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:03 PM
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But if it's not working, then he can do something about it: divorce. And to prevent that and stay happy in her no longer so automatic relationship, she may decide to have more sex. There is nothing wrong with what he's doing. "Sex, or divorce!" She gets to choose. It's perfectly legal.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:01 PM
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How is it severe. It documents exactly what happened over the time period. And the sex life wasn't wonderful before that, it was bad enough to get him to start documenting. This shows he is responding assertively in a powerful way. She hates it! Remember that we need to drive our women's emotions.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:59 PM
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This isn't needy, it's assertive and a bit Machiavellian. She's desperately trying to reach him. That's not the behavior of a woman who is about to cheat.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:58 PM
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On the contrary, he's fucking up her mood so she won't cheat.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:56 PM
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It's not a problem, it's a good response. Using his anger directly would get him nowhere. And she's "escaped" where he can't do anything anyway. Oh, actually he can do something. This. And it's driving her NUTS. Now suddenly rather than avoiding him, she's desperately hamstering and trying to get in touch with him, and she'll be confronting him when she returns. winning.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:55 PM
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"Your last LTR" so she broke up with you? I am not surprised, if you were afraid she would laugh at you. You should have given her this list and not been afraid. Can't say how things would have gone but not worse than they did.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:08 PM
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How is it passive-aggressive? I don't get that. How could he present the evidence in a way that's clear and convincing, and useful (as an implied threat) for possible divorce proceeding, better?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:01 PM
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You're jumping ahead in the game. Think cold and calculating, like a lawyer. He's putting evidence of her misdeed on the table. He wants it to change. Don't make a threat you'll regret later. That's implied, or at least the possibility of it is implied. "We need to have sex more often, see this?" You don't make a threat, that's actually weak because it constrains your future action. In court, the spreadsheet would be fine. Assertiveness is completely fine and is not emotional abuse. The threat w…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:57 PM
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It just puts facts on the table. She is obviously uncomfortable with that, which is all the more reason to do it, to try to get some change in her behavior.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:50 PM
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Maybe he is. Lawyers generally suggest you accumulate documentation. Maybe he's in a state where it would matter to the terms of a divorce. At any rate this helps him generate dread, which he surely needs. Why does it upset her so much to see a historical summary of what actually happened? She doesn't dispute its correctness, just that he "needs to" be in touch with her right now.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:49 PM
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99% of the time a female's drama will be insignificant, Then I guess we're all the 1%, because some of the shit we've seen is far from insignificant. If your statement were anything like true in a LTR, we would not be having this discussion. But maybe you are being honest and just don't know what your "sisters" really do at home. How would you know when all your communication with your female "friends" is posture talk? So let me tell you, your 99% statement is just not reality.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:32 PM
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This is a great thread. It seems that both you and Hexthorne are women. I always like it when women try to change the course of these discussions. The high IQ white knights are harder, they use tricky tactics and are slippery. Women are fun and not deep, like weak chessplayers. It's relaxing to discuss with you. Thanks for coming!
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:29 PM
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We've experienced enough of it, we can give some back. We decline to be "manly" to your specs. We won't do that for you, we won't man up. We enjoy your frustration at that, we know you're frustrated, and we want to encourage and amplify that frustration and watch you blow the stack. We'll let you think we are going to be manly (simulated beta game) if that works, but we won't make any such promises. It's all in your expectations. We play you like a fiddle. You probably consider that emotional ab…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:22 PM
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I don't watch those 30 minute and 1 hour sitcoms. I have a limited capacity for movies even. You cannot understand someone like me. That's why women are so fascinated by men. You cannot do what we do.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:20 PM
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I really liked the "rape defense drill" idea ... several good ideas for me to keep in mind, so that I am adding the spice to our marriage more often than she is! This is the way women are. Now you know. Would you rather not know and be puzzled and frustrated your whole life and not achieve as much as you wanted because you misunderstood the system nature is operating her on this planet at this time? You have a choice. You can be with women like this, because this is what women are like. Or you c…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:14 PM
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Then after a few years, or very likely after a couple kids, she reverts to basic female tendencies. I'm not calling you a hypocrite, but you did call yourself that.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:02 PM
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I was gonna say they won't do that because then it would be illegal when they (powerful men) do it themselves. But now, with all the gays and weirdos coming into power and pushing out the traditionally powerful men, who the fuck knows.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 04:17 PM
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We should do what we want, within legal and moral limits. So you're free to go for that 20 year old, that's fine. Maybe he wants some cougar sex. Men often want one or two experienced lovers to teach them things. I never had that, maybe it would have been good for me. But if you don't want to fuck a 20 year old, you are not obligated to do it. And if a 30 year old guy and 20 year old woman mutually want to get it on, they should.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:07 PM
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Why, like we should go for the hardest opponent to get sex from? It's supposed to be a battle of wits? We're not supposed to have that desirable thing because we're too likely to get it? You don't like men very much do you? You should be happy for our success! Typical female response, catty toward other women and by habit, toward men too.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:04 PM
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Your comment isn't logically consistent. Sentences 1 and 4: They don't like you because you are seeing a girl too young and inexperienced. (I agree. It makes them angry and fearful. They do want the power to tell you what girls you can see. But the great thing is, they can't! It probably just makes the young one more attracted to you, also.) Sentence 2-3: Hoes over bros. (I disagree, and it's unsupported. They're just momentarily joining the same riot to expel the intruder they hate. What might …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:42 PM
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If he's simply not appealing to them, they would either ignore him or mock him a bit. Not hurl a string of agitated hamster-talk at him.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:35 PM
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Finally something from you that I can agree with! (you meant your comment literally, right?)
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:27 AM
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No they are not envious of you. They are envious of the younger girl. And angry at you for bringing the reality of a younger girl to their social circle, especially in front of their guys.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:09 AM
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What was their excuse for throwing a fit?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:05 AM
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Heh. Or, if they're a bit cool, they'll say how they would not get abortions. At least it will change the subject, if you need to. But it makes the discussion less sexual. That's not what we do in game. Unless it's for comfort, we make things more sexual rather than providing diversions into poisonous political discussions. So it would be better to maintain frame and softly lob back their shit. The shit won't be very good because they'll be butthurt and emotional which is why they are bitching. …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 06:04 AM
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So you think that one woman was a spy? They really don't have such interesting things to talk about, they talk about us. And they are competitive with each other, so they don't really say much constructive. And typically they try to bring us down to their level.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:53 AM
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I don't think women have any instinct to protect each other. They stick together sometimes in momentary alliances for specific goals. They sometimes protect their husbands if attracted to them. They will protect their children above all. They want to keep younger women away for reasons of competition (they hate them instinctively) and specifically to prevent their husbands from having options. They'd rather that you didn't have options either. So while you may think they are sticking together ou…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:39 AM
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And a year ago, he too was going thru a difficult patch. I am coming up on my 20th anniversary and it's been difficult than it was before, but I am not in shape and things are not really great. Having some wins for the kids though, which I really care more about. tbh I can take or leave the married relationship, a bit of adventure would be nice. Some days are good but there are still shitstorms, she often acts bipolar these days.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:31 AM
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They've been with their guy, or their last two guys, since they were about that age. And still no ring. Now they're starting to worry. And the competition right there, that's not what they had in mind at all!! Heh.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:27 AM
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Well it's the same guy after all. He didn't have a total personality and character transplant. Maybe sometimes you regret now staying with him, helping him bring out his inner alpha because now the asshole is using it against you. I do not respect what he's doing.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:20 AM
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Once the guy gets some inner game, he won't do that any more. Whereas it's a way of life for women, they don't grow out of it.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:17 AM
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No. At the risk of saying the obvious, because apparently it's not obvious to you, you do not do this if you are a decent guy or expect to keep this friend or any other mutual male friends you have.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:15 AM
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Surprising the guy would act jealous like this, unless you are competing for your friends' women. Which is a bad and dishonorable thing to do. Remember, you're a man, you have honor.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:14 AM
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It is. Women's friendships are as thin as tissue paper. Same as her commitment in marriage. Once attraction ends, she stops giving a shit. Sometimes they'll talk about how deep and strong a particular friendship is. That's because it's a little better than tissue paper, they think (but they can never be sure their bfffff won't drop them out of the blue either.) So they make a big deal. You may think you're missing something when women are talking to their female friends. Actually it's pretty muc…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:10 AM
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You sound like you know nothing. Wife as friend, yes it starts that way. 12 years of marriage is quite a time span. Have you experienced it? I have, married 20 years so far but there were some times I only stayed in it for the kids.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 05:04 AM
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And people didn't agonize about it the way we do today. The guy would meet some girls, get up the guts to ask one to marry him, if she accepted that was it. They had a brief engagement, a simple ceremony and child-making commenced. What do they have in common? A house, and children. Not spending their 20's and some of their 30's (or worse) in a sequence of LTRs with periods of "dating" in between, then the man is getting limp dick and the woman near to menopause by the time they get married.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 04:37 AM
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Interesting. You do partial beta provider game on the first date. Well I sort of do too, but just because I've never felt asshole-ish enough to go full asshole. I am becoming more of an asshole lately in my LTR game and it's working great, so I am on an asshole kick.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 04:26 AM
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So be acclimated to girls. Think of a moist juicy vagina, and you'll have the right frame and a satisfactory answer.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 04:19 AM
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Yes. This will make your response much better. Pausing a second is fine, but a second isn't enough to come up with a smooth response. It has to be more or less there already. You just take a second to consider it, caress it, then say it.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:42 AM
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"I recently broke up with my old girlfriend. She was relying on me too much, just staying at home, not growing." That should get the new girl's competitive juices flowing.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:41 AM
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The only good thing about it is that women age out of it sooner. It's surely supposed to be illegal but somehow they do get rid of the women before age 40, don't they? You don't see the female anchors keep their job as the hair turns gray. But this is just more of the same thing that happens in dating. Women have a wonderful life, up to the wall. But not beyond it.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:36 AM
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Their fluffy reporting on the zoo gets them an anchor job. Your good work as war correspondent gets you more opportunity to be a war correspondent.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:34 AM
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Nah, it was clear enough. If you want to climb down, you do it, I won't do it for you.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:41 AM
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No you fat fucking dumb bitch. I don't know who you are, fat fucking dumb bitch, but you are not going to drag me down. Go eat some cake, I'll go eat some asparagus... you fat fucking dumb bitch. That, from you. She didn't insult men, she didn't advocate divorce -raping men or teaching them to be effeminate, she didn't say anything misandric, she seems to like men and be a reasonable person, from what she writes. Yet you go off on her like this. It seems like an unbalanced reaction to me.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:37 AM
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But did "strongest" mean looking like a muscle anatomy chart, smooth shaven so the muscles are most obvious, with 5% bodyfat? No, the guy to kill the woolly mammoth was probably reasonably tall, reasonably strong, healthy, usually covered in dirt, his own hair and the mammoth's guts, and smart as hell.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:25 AM
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Another emotional butthurt reaction to someone who is at least somewhat immune to the big muscles. Why isn't the reaction like "fine, there are plenty of better chicks who like me ripped" But that confident tone is rare in this thread. At least as common is anger that the woman is not under the spell of the muscles. And getting angry is really really bad game. It's the opposite of outcome independence. Look I know the feeling too, when I was single and going good I was looking for 100% wins in m…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:22 AM
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This might be true. Statistically, you might get more women but different women by being ripped.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:19 AM
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She didn't say that. I am not sure if that's a part of what she's actually thinking, it could be, but she didn't say that.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:18 AM
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Doesn't help you though, if the girl is repelled by her incorrect assumptions. And even if you explain, you have to do it right so you don't come across as qualifying yourself, i.e. vulnerable, and offset all the impression of strength she gets from your muscles.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:17 AM
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Your reaction is interesting, moreso even than hers. You are pissed off. It makes you angry. It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger's reaction in that TV show from his body building days. She laughs a little bit at his huge muscles, and he emotionally loses it and flies into a rage. So muscularly strong. So emotionally vulnerable. Yes I know this feels like I am teasing you but it is true. Women in my social circle would eat a guy like that for lunch. (Some would fuck him too, though.) To a woman, the …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 02:13 AM
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Heh yes I just saw a post like that on /r/relationships yesterday I think. Today I got kicked off there. I've been able to post any kind of relationship advice there, I come from a redpill perspective and do not have different views there from here. What good am I to them if I am not honest? But I have gotten kicked off twice. The reasons: (1) I was anti-abortion in some situation. (2) I was not all sympathetic to a black girl whose white boyfriend expressed skepticism about affirmative action, …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 12:29 AM
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Married man, upvoting this even though he bitches about married men who've gone places he has never gone in his life, relationship wise. Because I like his attitude.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 12:23 AM
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I liked the "it's what women do", it's true. It's what they do to each other, to you, to anyone they feel the power to do it to.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 12:20 AM
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He. Was. 12. Years. Old. What he did was not "rape" by most definitions even if he had been an adult, as there was no penetration, and maybe he just touched the vulva not the vagina anyway. When he was 12 years old. And you damn him for, at most, wanting a fresh start. This says what sort of man, or insect, you are.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 12:12 AM
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Mom probably had no concept of how bad it is to clue in a mandated reporter to anything.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:59 PM
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For having played a bit too much with his sister at the age of 12. Age 12 ffs. He should not have been in the system to begin with, and Mom should have had more discretion about things. The fucking "mandated reporter" system requires parents to navigate a minefield to deal with any family issues.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:59 PM
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Tragic and not at all comparable to a parking ticket. His parents didn't know the ground rules. They didn't know what would happen to them, otherwise I sure as hell hope Mom would not have called any mandated reporter. The system tries hard to grab people like that. You have to be very tough and fight the system. Mom didn't know enough to protect her son. The system should go to hell.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:57 PM
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The second article is simply retarded. Pushing your grandmother into the wall isn't alpha. Being a total asshole to everyone may well lead to an empty life. That has nothing to do with being alpha though. "The day your girlfriend left you because you wouldn’t watch a single episode of My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic when she told you how much it meant to her. " This was written by a "nice guy". He doesn't understand that women don't work that way. Being aloof will keep your girlfriend attrac…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 08:01 PM
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If feminism is really such a fair thing, presumably it would have some tangible benefits for him too, that he could actually get. With the rise of feminism he should have gotten most of those benefits already. Ask him how it's going for him. What are those benefits that are so fairly distributed, where are his?
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 07:28 PM
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They are independent business people. And the performers have to be super-good, and also play a political game. But succeeding among other women artists, feminism wouldn't be the factor for success. Feminism is probably bad for the ballet dancer, because it's wrong for men to objectify women's bodies isn't it? Feminism isn't favorable to support of the traditional arts. Maybe those things are part of the patriarchy they try to overthrow. After all, those fat ugly broads never had a chance to be …
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 07:24 PM
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But if she looks for only alpha cocks but not more alpha cocks than before, it would not lead to her interest in the guy increasing once he gets married. Indeed, if she were looking for beta cock earlier, she could have been interested in him even in his old beta days. So far from showing that I missed the point, you made a confusing comment that arguably supports my point rather than yours.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 03:45 AM
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Is there any man who is not "broken" by that standard? It's a silly standard, perfection for humans is the wrong way to think. Even for women. A 10/10 woman, no matter whether that means top 10% to you or top 0.1%, is not some godlike creature. It's a female human with an above average body, but with all the usual concerns of the human female. And some of them have trouble getting dates, because men are intimidated perhaps, but in any case they do. They're not perfect, not broken, but human. Tha…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 03:42 AM
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Reaonably substantial work with perhaps one exception. Emmy Noether did truly substantial work, independently, in mathematics. All other female scientists were mainly diligent. This includes Marie Curie, who was trained by her husband and rose to the position of full collaborator and eventually project leader when it came to the project of isolating radium. To compare her with, say, Karl Gauss, is like comparing the moon to the sun.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 01:06 AM
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Height is important, it's something I haven't got. More importantly it's something I cannot get. So I am delighted to report success despite the lack of it, using RP principles. Beyond observing that height is helpful, it doesn't help (to first order -- math jocks know what I mean) to discuss much about the role of height, because it's not something a man can change once he's past adolescence.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:49 PM
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I think this is wrong. Don't bother being "unique and amazing". Just get noticed and don't be beta. Salesmanship doesn't mean not pretending to be more or different than you really see yourself. On the contrary, put on lots of hats and try lots of crazy shit. Don't be sincere, especially at first. The easy lack of sincerity is actual Dark Triad and is attractive. Salesmanship means being logical and goal oriented. So if it's Tinder, pay a lot of attention to the marketing tool that is your pictu…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:35 PM
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I think it's more like you come across differently. When they were single, you weren't RP. They can smell it. Get noticed, and don't be beta, and you're in the game. I don't think that most women are MORE likely to cheat once they're in an LTR than to fuck when they are unattached. Depraved as they are, I don't think it's that bad. Or maybe I am still naive.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:30 PM
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If I were going to put up a photo on Tinder, I would pay a couple hundred $ to get one professionally digitally enhanced. If everything is your picture, have one that sells. But when you show up for the date and your upper body is a bit less swollen than the pic, you can just say you're cutting or whatever, probably she won't bring it up, and you'll have a shirt on anyway. I would actually enjoy that as much or more than putting in the work to get all that muscle for real, then having to maintai…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:10 PM
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Seinfeld for banter? I always thought Seinfeld's conversation was lame and never understood the massive appeal of the show. But I guess the requirements for banter are pretty low. After all these girls are not brain surgeons. Seinfeld's stuff will work, or almost anything else that's not overtly beta will also work. Be non-beta. Attack.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:08 PM
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When I was living in China, the guys I saw with the hot women were no better looking than average, maybe worse. Typically they were fat ugly guys. But they were generally wearing thick solid gold jewelry. Am I lying about that too? You are just a troll who wants to discourage men who don't look super, exactly the sort of men who need it most to avoid becoming betabux. Maybe he is a woman who wants betabux there when she gets past the wall.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 11:03 PM
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I do. And you should love her for who she is. RP is really about understanding who she really is.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 10:17 PM
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I agree that MMSL is too nice to women. I disagree that you should not expect duty sex. She married you. She sleeps with you. WTF does she expect? Well, you define her expectations to a large degree. You are the man. If you're not doing that for her, you've fallen off the bicycle, but then just get back on the bicycle and ride it again. Once she sees you are leading, she is highly likely to follow (perhaps with some LMR bitching). If it starts as duty sex for her, her attraction will probably re…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 10:16 PM
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And no mention of kids, which raise the shitstorm potential by an order of magnitude or more these days. You don't use them for farm chores, and you have to worry about what they're reading and texting.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 09:39 PM
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I'm an atheist fyi. So was Saul the tax collector. Even after the name change, most of what he wrote was just guessing. sorry couldn't resist ...
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 09:37 PM
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Yes that skinny, but not that tall.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:51 PM
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It's the truth. What else could it be? The good news is that you can succeed. Maybe it's a bit harder. I don't know, I haven't run the experiment. I've never been me but six inches taller. You can win. If you see a girl you want, you can maintain frame and have at least an interest interaction with her if she notices you. She will never dismiss you into the friendzone, she will never think of you as beta. What more could you ask for? I think the part that may be harder is getting her to notice y…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:44 PM
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For a model long legs are sort of a job requirement. But he has the problem that he isn't very tall, so a real fashion model would be taller than he is, and he may not prefer that.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:40 PM
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I would have, and I was no ladies man with unlimited sex opportunities. Older women reminded me of my mother, or my teachers. Not sex objects or sexual at all. And it wasn't their place to change my mind about this.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:37 PM
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The police should get her personal details and submit the case to the DA for prosecution.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:36 PM
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It's probably not cultural programming. High chest/waist indicates the presence of high level of testosterone.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:30 PM
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Now you know what to have done to your photo before you post it on Tinder.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:29 PM
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Nice bland answer. Care to address any of the real life observations from us other married guys, why you think yours was different, how did kids affect it if you had kids, etc?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:01 PM
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I am a highly educated guy, but the most use I've gotten out of that is to identify her lies and inconsistencies. For years I refuted them one after another. My kids learned she's a big liar by hearing me refute these lies all the time. For years I tried to be discreet about it and not embarrass her in front of the kids. Then I realized it was just making it harder on me while allowing the kids to be confused, so I did it openly and clearly. How can kids grow up RedPill without access to the rea…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 06:53 PM
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Yes, definitely go for the game approach. Verbal involving requests is wrong. Assume the sale. If she gets angry (mine did) either persist or back off, having moved the ball forward. The good thing about marriage is that there is a next time. To stop that she'd have to disrupt everyone's life. (And while she might not mind disrupting yours, she probably has some concern about the kids, and she does not want to disrupt her reputation with friends etc. Use it.) Sex is an expectation in marriage. D…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 06:39 PM
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Married after age 35, when I had already figured out some RP type stuff, so marriage was better than it could have been. Was pretty assertive to get her. Had 2 kids within the first 5 years of marriage. But I've needed the reinforcement from online stuff like this that's become available to deal with the shit of the past 5 years of my marriage. OP's experiences are so much like my own it was like I was reading my own writing. But I've reacted differently. This sort of shit does not deserve a str…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 06:26 PM
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How do we know he isn't spinning plates? He couldn't really invite all his plates to this game, they would fight and distract him when he needed to perform. So he might be doing that already and this is just the flavor of the month.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 05:52 PM
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He may upgrade now if he's so inclined. Actually she looks rather past her modeling prime, isn't she wearing a lot of makeup? And her legs are not long. Unless she's super intelligent or a fine musician / singer, bringing something more than her body to the table, I'd advise him to reenter the market.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 05:50 PM
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Goetze not traditionally handsome and not "built". Most of his German teammates are handsome and much taller than he is. Actually he looks like the runt of the team. Of course he's not because he is known to have skill and success, and moreso now that he scored the biggest goal in the biggest moment. Many here say that looks are important to a man. Not so much. I know exactly where Goetze is at, even though I am less successful and famous. I have no trouble maintaining frame and authority, despi…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 05:48 PM
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No, it's innate to men who allow it to persist. It's usually given by men. The easiest boss I ever had was a woman. But she was probably the hardest boss the blonde female on our team ever had, because tossing her hair didn't get her anywhere for once in her life. It was actually fun to watch this boss expect professional standards of her. She got no pussy pass from her female boss, as she had her whole life from white knighting males.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 03:00 PM
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Yeah this is partly true. On one hand, black men have a very hard time from "their own" black women. I've seen ugly fat women, 3's, treat black men like shit, men that were very handsome and muscular. And the men have no choice but to take it or just retreat from those women. On the other hand, lots of black men and women do hate whites. Have you ever gotten a favor or a good deal from a black person? No, they reserve that for other blacks, they try to rip me off. I've never been attacked as in …
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:56 PM
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Yes, but also, they see their older "sisters" being left high and dry now, and they're hurrying to avoid that for themselves. Some are anyway. I see far more young women anxious to settle down, and far more desperation in the over the wall crowd, than I used to. Dread game FTW, and you don't even have to do anything or be involved, it's from their observation of society. Most don't even bother to blame RP / PUA for it, because for one thing they are ashamed and know these things are right, and a…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:51 PM
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Good point. Have you ever bothered to observe this to them?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:43 PM
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With that response I can see why he has his plates. They are simple creatures and love such a direct show of dominance and drama. He's probably like that at other times too. I did love the response though. If buddy were a bit more like that he'd have more fun with his wife.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:40 PM
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Had you led them to believe they would get cars if they consented to sex? If so I still applaud you for not providing the cars. If they want their cars they can sue you for breach of contract in court (that would be funny!) To be clear, even if you explicitly lied and promised a car (even in writing) to get consent to sex, and then broke that promise after sex, that would not be rape. There is a crime "rape by deception" but that applies only to impersonation of someone's lover or, in some state…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:32 PM
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They don't even know the context in which to use those attributes of character. Dr. Skodowska was a brilliant student of her scientific mentor Prof. Curie, whom she married. She always gave immense credit to hie contribution to the work of isolating radium, as well as her scientific education. Real scientific education makes for humility, because you see greatness, not in scientists but in nature. Few men get that far and even fewer women. Most women give up math before they learn anything, so t…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:27 PM
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Probably they are attracted to him, and especially bothered that even though he has no steady girlfriend, he's not interested at all in them. They're getting no competition for their attention, and he even brings in nuclear competition to their environment in the form of a sequence of younger, probably hotter girls.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 02:10 PM
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PUA was more practical, perhaps because it was harder for trolls to take it over. "You must lift or else!" Really? Did Mystery lift? Did any of the guys who really teach social skills? No, they look like normal people, they aren't super jacked. Is it (gasp) possible that looking like an anatomy chart could hurt your game? At any rate, it is an experimentally verified fact that lifting is not necessary for many people. And yet TRP treats it like an essential tenet of the religion.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 07:55 AM
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That's an interesting post, including the comments. I read Heartiste and like it very much. I didn't realize (and still haven't verified to my satisfaction) that CH is really about emotional deadness. But I can say that in gaming my married life, I have needed some deadness, and CH helped me get it. There are various teachers and we can learn from them and our own experiences. Why do people try to worship these guys and find fault with them because no one of them teaches everything. My kids are …
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 07:51 AM
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Alpha has got to be the foundation of anyone who wants to have success on his own terms with women. Whether it looks like PUA or not. And a lot of PUA is just examples of types of alpha behavior. "Fake it til you make it", til you find your own alpha voice. It's in there if you are a man, underneath all the social conditioning that's been applied to stop you from finding it. But you can do things yourself. And you can lose the beta. Running after a girl and "talking it out" quickly sounds like s…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 07:37 AM
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Lose your beta. Then you'll be alpha, simply, without pretension or stiffness. Let that inner alpha man in you speak and act. But that's a statement more about men than about women. It's the hard part. Once you do it, the women will like it. They don't understand it, any more than most people know how that tasty sausage (not a sexual reference, I mean actual sausage) is made.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 06:42 AM
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I really do know something about coffee. I even used to roast my own coffee with a popcorn popper, until Fairway Market opened a store in my area. Now I actually get the faux-Cuban blend from Costco. And while some people prefer light roasts esp. for drip coffee, a darker roast develops the oils more for French press, and I prefer it for espresso for the same reason. Also I like the coffee to have its natural sweetness, and that's improved by dark roast by beans that have that potential. Light r…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 06:35 AM
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Not the only way, but what worked for them. And a surprisingly strong consensus emerges about what works for guys who report here. That consensus is far more in favor of dominant and aggressive behavior than what one would conclude from reading the article. So the article doesn't give clear advice, and what one can infer from it is pretty inaccurate, won't work very well, and misses the point of what many people here have observed very consistently to be effective. One of the PUA guys says you n…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 06:27 AM
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It's a part of what is said here, but it's the hardest way. Sure, get an Ivy League education, grow five inches, drive an expensive car, have a high class job. Those are all things that will attract some women. But they are very hard to get, if not impossible. Meanwhile you can learn some skanky game and get interesting women much faster and easier.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 06:21 AM
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To repeat, what women say they want is not the same as what they are attracted to. It's good of them to fill out the surveys and participate in the experiment. The authors got a publication, we got something to argue about. But my first sentence is a well known truth that refutes the whole study.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 06:19 AM
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It's certainly useful to watch that. If you're a marketer, you are certainly interested in the buyer's behavior.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 05:44 AM
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The second law of women dynamics: women can destroy an arbitrary amount of a man's energy. The third law of women dynamics: women always cause an increase in chaos.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 03:04 AM
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If you look a bit worse than outstanding, don't put up a profile on Tinder, or do something outrageous or different to appeal on something other than genetic endowment.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 02:55 AM
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Wrong as usual. Not all men are gifted with great looks. Lifting and diet can help somewhat within a limited range. We have guys who say they look fantastic but don't have the "game" to communicate and get what they want. Equating game with begging is just nonsense. I could probably come up with a few more points pretty easily too.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:42 PM
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A man wouldn't even be tempted to approach such a woman. So I guess she disqualifies herself from having us worry about her.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:32 PM
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It's what we do with our ears.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:29 PM
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Maybe they think violence is a different problem and they don't respect people who have to act out violently. They may think that it relates to other characteristics of these individuals rather than being female. I mean, leaky transmissions in their cars, or melanoma in their skin, are problems that affect some women too. That doesn't mean feminism has to deal with those problems.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:25 PM
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And the overwhelming majority of nonwhite people don't care about white people. We should care less still, to make things equal.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:12 PM
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Good point that it's yet another way that the mainstream feminists are hypocritical. This is a schism that's been in feminism like forever, and it's a good point that we can call them on it. But I don't have respect for these double-minority black women excusing their own violence either. I have no respect for either group as a group and think we should find some good ways to inflame the tensions between them.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:56 PM
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He hasn't said that. I wouldn't impute forgiving feelings to him that he has not expressed. She's currently in Mexico on some missionary work, according to the article.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:54 PM
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A 23-year-old woman has told police she lied about her father raping her when she was 11 - accusations that put him behind bars for nine years. But Cassandra Kennedy, from Longview, Washington, will not be charged as prosecutors fear it could stop others from reporting sexual assaults. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124170/Cassandra-Kennedy-Father-freed-decade-jail-daughter-admits-lied-raping-11.html#ixzz37Sy05lMF Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook If …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:51 PM
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In defense of the white women, why should they get distracted by the problems of these violent black women? Do white men have to be distracted by the problems of violent black men? Let these violent black women make their own movement that supports the idea of women being violent, if they can succeed at that. They don't have a right to convert someone else's movement to their purpose. I would guess that mainstream feminism welcomes people regardless of color but has some problem with the violenc…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:43 PM
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Good luck finding your unicorn. How will you know she won't turn into a bitch 5 years later? Just curious.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:38 PM
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Congrats on not falling into beta bux role. With single moms, from all I read, it's all about the money. Yeah I dated one briefly too and it was so nice. Never got as far as meeting the kid though the kid was kept well out of sight by some magic.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:37 PM
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One good thing about female bosses: they don't tend to white-knight female employees. Who says women should have no bumps in the road, career wise? As for the allegations the boss forced sex on the subordinate, who the fuck knows. Chinese don't tend to be homosexual, but I am sure there are some exceptions, and those would probably succeed better than most in Silicon Valley culture. This story claims to have a photo of the other woman, Nan Shi, but it looks like the same woman Maria Zhang who is…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 03:12 PM
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Interesting datapoint. I am much shorter (but my wife is shorter still) so I don't have that particular method as easily, but it's still worth knowing about. I think game is the art of using all sorts of things to dominate a woman and get her in that mood, even if you don't have a big advantage like height.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:46 PM
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This is the human condition. Deal with it. In your heart, maybe you're from a better universe, but you're here now buddy. Enjoy what we've got here, don't bother pretending it's something it isn't.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:39 PM
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Yes, men over-complain about the Friendzone. A woman puts there because she is not sexually attracted, and there you will stay if she never feels sexually attracted. Since guys don't often change, they stay in the same condition and say "the friendzone is forever". But it's not. All you have to do is change to become attractive (not physically but in the ways that count) and she'll realize "you've changed". I had a girl tell me that once. But on the other hand, once you escape the FZ, the woman …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:38 PM
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On one hand, "feminism" gets money to push this stuff, so we hear their haranguing to give more "opportunities" to women. On the other hand, the fields pay well and once in the job a woman is nearly impossible to fire for technical underperformance, so women see it as a way to make more than they otherwise could, and get to work with a bunch of guys too, typically guys who will be quite beta and not critical of the woman's looks and personality. So it's not just the fault of institutions, but al…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:32 PM
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It's mainly that, overall, women cannot perform in those fields. They lack the abilities required. No wonder they don't enjoy it.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:26 PM
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There's a lot of evidence showing that women's IQ's have much less standard deviation around 100 (or whatever a population mean is) than men's do. So most of the very low scores and very high scores are from men. In the tails, assuming Gaussian distributions for both men and women, this becomes extremely significant. I think this is very strong evidence. Physics, especially theoretical physics, absolutely requires strong abilities in abstraction and problem solving. Probably being in the top 1% …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:20 PM
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Kudos for hanging on through calculus and Newtonian physics and electromagnetic theory and all the rest probabily including a math course requiring abstract proofs, until you could even learn quantum theory. You showed perseverence of course, but more importantly, technical ability. There are a few technically capable women, and as we see, they have no "sexist" barriers. There's such a huge gap between "isn't that interesting, let's talk about it in an equal and inclusive way" in a high school c…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:08 PM
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It's pretty well founded actually. Rather than complain about it, refute the assertions if you can.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:00 PM
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CS is a field of math. Programming is a different skill, relying on quickness and a memory for random facts, and not needing the ability of mathematical abstraction.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:58 PM
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"Society" has no responsibility for her desire to remain cool to her social group of other girls. We're constantly told it's creepy for us to try to change anything about them, but when it comes to this, suddenly we have an obligation? I don't think so. Hands off is hands off. Going thru high school, I was in the advanced math track. Every year there were less and less girls. In senior year our BC Calculus class had five boys and one girl. I thought she was going fine, but she didn't seem comfor…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:54 PM
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It's not that the recipients of affirmative action aren't motivated. They are just less able. They (and it's all such groups, especially blacks and women) tend to work very hard in school and are able to cover for a lot of technical inabilities with verbal tricks. But they just don't have the problem solving abilities of white and asian men who were excluded so they could have their seats. And if the school develops those abilities somewhat, those excluded students would have developed their abi…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:42 PM
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Boys and girls alike should experience a learning environment that allows them access to useful things to learn, and organizational and disciplinary supports in the childhood years when they are not yet responsible for decisions about how they spend their time. Some of the special snowflake stuff can go by the wayside, and we don't want to pay for it.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:26 PM
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The argument about rape is that the woman would not be relaxed or emotionally receptive and therefore fertilization would not happen. I think the idea in more detail is that the chemical balance within the vagina would be changed to make fertilization much less likely. Now I am not saying that argument is correct. But it's not obviously incorrect either, at least in a statistical sense. What is the evidence regarding the truth of that argument?
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:20 PM
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So CMU gave a big admissions boost to any girl who was willing to try computer science? Is that what you mean by "boasted"? MIT does it too.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:17 PM
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Instead of having to go to college with these pathetic blacks, they should just have a field trip to the ghetto. Actually what's happening at some selective schools is that they still give a massive advantage to blacks, but they fill a lot of those slots with African immigrants. They would have to give an even bigger advantage if they tried to find "African Americans" for those slots. And in this case there is some benefit to diversity, as the African continent is representsd, along with America…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:12 PM
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Your description of race in admissions is misleading. Good try .... The facts are: (1) blacks are favored in college admission. They will be admitted to many colleges with much lower scores (vastly lower) than whites would need, but (2) blacks will do slightly worse than whites with the same scores -- let alone whites with the higher scores whites would need to be admitted. Your hypothetical has point (2) backwards. And it way understates the magnitude of (1). So "affirmative action" admission o…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 01:09 PM
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Part of DT is Machiavellianism, i.e. planning. I'd highly advise it. If you're mathematically inclined, read a bit of "game theory", not as in PUA game, but as in microeconomics, Nash equilibrium, prisoner's dilemma. The world works that way. It helps stress empathy, i.e. understanding what the other person is thinking as a part of navigating for your own goals.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 12:55 PM
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Make the jokes a bit nasty, like negs. Would that work?
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:30 AM
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We went several times last year to Six Flags, me, my size 2 wife and our kids. But we are letting the membership lapse next year. It's very exhausting to drive all the way there and deal with the crowds all day.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:27 AM
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Is that really true? I find that it's easier for me to talk to women than it is for them to talk to each other, because the competitive aspect is not there. A girl they don't know, they won't be interested in meeting and will be suspicious of. Women are very cliquish with each other. But they're always willing to talk to a guy they don't know, it's normal after all, as long as you make a nice (I don't mean "nice guy") impression, same as you'd approach any girl.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:15 AM
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How exactly is running a competition among her friends unethical? It's actually quite straightforward. It doesn't pedestalize them though.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:11 AM
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Post-wall women who expected that they'd still be able to pull a beta provider when needed. They had seen women before them doing that routinely at the ages they now are. Now suddenly we're out here "poisoning the minds" of those guys so they aren't interested in beta-providing for those women. Of course they're hateful. They think we've ruined their lives. Maybe they're right. Doesn't bother me a bit, they deserve no better for their AFBB strategy.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 05:08 AM
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I think he said, or would say "nothing, I just have some things to work on" or some such. But yeah I know she could press "no it's not the same, why are spending so much time apart from me?" In that situation I guess you just stay vague and let her think you may be with other women. Women don't ask too many questions because dread gets the better of them, and they have the habit from childhood of talking posture-talk with other women, where that would let down the guard too much.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 04:50 AM
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RP advises that "talking it out" is probably useless and quite possibly damaging.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 04:47 AM
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Why is it necessary to be capable of those physical things? The nerds have invented "machines" that are vastly more powerful than you could ever be, and many of them cost less than a gym membership. How is this being efficient in increasing capability? Lifting is so sincere. I guess I am not sincere enough for it, more Machiavellian.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 12:44 AM
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Have you considered moving on from adolescence to being a father? The funny thing about RP thinking, which I had to figure out on my own before there was any such movement, is that once I figured it out enough and started to put it into action, I got pulled off the market HARD. We are raising our family now. But without the RP mindset, I could not have gotten her. I wasn't thinking independently enough. If you want to go through your life in the "abundance" of fucking lots of women but never hav…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 11:50 PM
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Agree. It doesn't require lifting or having big muscles. Maybe the two are a bit complementary at first, to increase your T and make you more assertive, to reconnect you with your inner alpha.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 11:46 PM
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Lose your beta. Just do it. You can do it right now. Now. And here you are reading this sentence having lost your beta and letting the alpha man within you come out through your actions and thoughts. I think PUA stuff is some useful methods, hints, and examples of things that a natural alpha (that's you, it's any man) would tend to think of doing. Just so you see what it feels like, so you recognize it.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 11:43 PM
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If you're not allowed to fuck a consenting adult because she's depressed or has a drug problem, then that's getting ridiculous. I guess you'd say it's OK for women to do that though. Edit to clarify: snark is meant for vaguehead not fluvient, obviously.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 11:20 PM
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What did he do that was immoral? She went along with the sexual escalation. If you think that was wrong, you should ask her first. He's entirely within his rights not to take her back in an exclusive relationship. He has no obligation to step in and help and nurture a woman he's not even in a committed relationship with. Do you just that it's immoral for the guy to win? I am very curious what you think he did that was immoral. She dumped him, then called him up and he didn't tell her to fuck off…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 11:17 PM
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Women think of men as alphas. They may be right. I am alpha but I had a load of beta crap conditioning on top of it. Various life experiences and my own analytical thinking (the sort of thing one could not really discuss publicly) and eventually websites (when this stuff hit the net recently) helped me get rid of that beta layer. So when women see a nice guy beta, they may actually understand there's an alpha in there but it's being covered up by this beta layer. They may see this better than we…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:58 PM
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Excellent comment. Can't vouch for the dark triad stuff because I've really only gone as far as behaving properly / a bit aggressively, with frame. That's who I really am inside once I lost the beta conditioning that society had put on me. (So I think you overestimate how really beta a lot of men are. I think all men have such an inner alpha.) However you have inspired me to play around with DT stuff. It's hard because wife has recently wanted to be with me a lot. But "narcissistic, Machiavellia…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:41 PM
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Wife "found out" I read this sub. She complained briefly about it. Stuff still works like a charm.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:11 PM
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Or, it can feel creepy to them, as in "how can I get rid of this guy fast without making a scene so my friends won't dump me?" It really is sort of urgent to them, because their female relationships are so unreliable. But hey, I'm a guy, I know what it's like to receive such treatment, so even though I know of girls' social problems, I don't worry about them or let them be my problems.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:09 PM
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Or like any other girl they spend time around is a "friend". Even if they hate each other, which is sort of the default condition of female relationships, they are "friends". To distinguish better friends, they have "best friends" and "bff" etc.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:03 PM
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"lift or don't lift but you make that choice, don't do it to get girls" That may not be what OP is trying to teach here, but it is what I am trying to teach here. And if OP goes crazy, hey that's not my problem. Nor is threatening to go crazy a sign of true RP confidence. It sounds kinda feminine to me. You guys don't have to all troop to the gym to qualify to get girls. You are qualified right now. Just lose your beta, that's far more important than getting muscles. Going to the gym and doing a…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 04:19 PM
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By all means. If she dumped him, more like he dumped her, but in either case he's free of the trouble, and learned some real truth about her character.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:59 PM
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To answer the question: yes she's a would-be rapist. But not an actual rapist, there's no evidence that she tried to force it.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:56 PM
2

But then men created the internet, and things changed. We are created in God's image. Don't forget it.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:55 PM
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When women want sex, they are typically pretty irrational. It's not inbreeding, it's thinking with one's vagina. (Men who think with their dicks make mistakes too.) Given this woman's tough reaction, he probably is lucky he didn't insert. If she didn't enjoy the sex or he said the wrong thing after, he could be at serious risk.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:50 PM
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Nah, don't worry, be happy. She can bitch all she wants, but her "sisters" are getting their vaginas fixed. For you. Ignore her and enjoy.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:46 PM
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I think you're giving her too much credit. Who cares what their head thinks of us? When it comes to sex, they think with their gonads, same as we do but much moreso. Her gonads were rejected and she can't deal with it. Combine that with beta-shaming (the guy has been too nice to her, so he's seen as beta and maybe was lower SMV up to recently), surprise (up to recently, men weren't rejecting such women, so she formed her expectations) and a lack of anything she can actually do about it, and you …
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:44 PM
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Hm, actually it might be worth a try, for any guys who run into the situation. Say it aggressively but with a smile. Guys really can win this game, and feminists are really humorless and lame. It SHOULD be fun to play jokes on them and play around with their heads. That's what works, too.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:41 PM
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And they assume he's not entitled to be considered a high value man, because of his pedestalling behavior, esp. driving so far to see her. Maybe he wasn't high value before (and they can smell it) but he's high value now and is just discovering it. Next time something like this happens, he should be even more blunt. Just say "no", don't offer suggestions to accommodate her body. Just say no, and spin another plate.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:38 PM
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It's happening more and more, because men are rejecting these women. 10 years ago they weren't rejecting them (the current crop of these women saw their slightly older "sisters" getting enough action), so these women aged out with an expectation of a certain kind of treatment by their beta age-mates. Now those guys are seeing porn, or dating younger women, or having standards, or dating overseas, or even just MGTOW, and these women are pissed as hell, and there is nothing they can do about it. T…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:31 PM
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The clothes came off, the wrinkles were apparent (some women wrinkle more than others), he saw the goods and said no. Would you have him reject ALL older women because he ASSUMES they are all so wrinkly? Eh?
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:26 PM
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You still have not answered the question. What would you have him do? If he's vague, he's leading her on. The way to decline sex is to say no. Isn't that a totally feminist idea? He even offered suggestions for how it could be acceptable to him. It's her choice to do those things (which still don't obligate him, as one can always say no to sex) or not. He saw the body and it was unacceptable. It's not too late to say no. You would laugh at him if he succumbed to pressure to say yes, then regrett…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:15 PM
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The tone of the comments was beta shaming. There was an expectation that this particular guy was not one to turn down sex. (He had no right to "agency" in feminist lingo.) I am sure that's because he behaved like a beta. All this supplicating, all the dates, driving so far for her ... Beta. He gets the beta treatment. And it is brutal and condescending. If he'd been less supplicating or introduced some competition to induce her to offer sex rather than all this niceness, the impression would hav…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 02:05 PM
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They complain that with porn easily available, men are getting more than what "nature intended for them". Well ladies, we invented the internet (not Al Gore, but men certainly did) and we probably run most of the porn businesses, so we earned that porn! I guess they think this guy was obligated to compliment and even fuck that woman? They are condoning rape!
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 01:52 PM
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I don't get the part about losing the clumps of hair, that doesn't make sense physically. But otherwise, the original fight doesn't seem to be related to her cheating. When she runs to the neighbor's flat and says she is sexually assaulted there, I think that's the incident that the husband describes as her "giving it away free". This is further supported by her statement that maybe she shouldn't have slept there but gone home instead.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 10:10 AM
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Nothing wrong with freshman. But you have to be less than "of age" too -- check local jailbait laws.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 10:02 AM
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No tox screen, no rape kit, sketchy story about how she supposedly didn't suspect anything until images appeared weeks later on twitter. As a grand juror, I wouldn't indict.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 04:32 AM
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That's funny, on thoughtcatalog.com I've seen women say that anyone who isn't a feminist is a misogynist. But a lot of feminism's power goes away when men are willing to challenge women directly, ask the questions women don't expect, rigorously avoid white knighting etc. Women depend on these behaviors but they really can't complain when the behaviors go away. It's fun to watch these days, actually.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 04:30 AM
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I didn't know that evolutionary psych was actually a field of academic research. Cool.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 04:07 AM
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She's saying she didn't even know it happened until she saw the images on twitter. I don't know if that's a credible story or not. Did the boys carefully put her clothes back on her before she woke up?
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:24 AM
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My HS experience is very similar, but it took me longer to swallow the pill. My experience is that it doesn't have as much to do with muscle mass as confidence. Maybe T level, which is increased by lifting. Well done. Wonder how many guys she's fucked in the past few years. Serious question, maybe it's few or none, or many, but your opinion of her might change depending on the answer. You should have a talk about your respective sex lives, you can mention your increase in confidence. Don't menti…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:21 AM
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This guy is also spinning a couple plates.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:18 AM
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Bitterness is OK at first, and toward an old "aspirational girl" when the tables have turned, it's pretty normal. OP's reactions are healthy, your preaching is lame. If you have wisdom on this subject, he'll get there but give him time.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:17 AM
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You can't tell this in advance of marriage. I sure couldn't. I was surprised when my wife pressed me to buy a house, then took charge of renovating it (while I worked) and wouldn't even add up the bills while it was going on. That's when I started tallying up the numbers myself. That process made me feel different about my wife, in a way that's permanent. But now she's working. She doesn't like to think of it this way, but whenever we argue about money, I make it clear she's working to get even …
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:13 AM
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/r/relationships is fairly tough on this woman. She doesn't get lots of sisterly support there. Look at the reddit logs!
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 01:08 AM
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You need muscles and a super expensive boat to get pussy? Well whatever "floats your boat" ...
/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 12:00 AM
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Yes of course it's her fault. Blame her for it, dump her, cheat on her, turn her into a plate without bothering to tell her, whatever seems strategic and enjoyable to you in this case. But go into it with your eyes open, seeing what's actually going on. If you do this much, I believe she'll notice and the cheating would not happen anyway. Even for those of us 5 foot 5 and balding.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 11:58 PM
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I am balding and 5 5. And I don't have a tough time. Height and weight, etc, have little to do with attraction. They'll tell you it does, because that's what their conscious brain wants. But their pussy doesn't act that way. Women either lie about what actually attracts them sexually or they don't know. In either case, ignore it or laugh at it.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 11:57 PM
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It's fine, except for declining to sue for libel. Maybe he's overstating what his lawyer actually told him. He comes out with an explanation and flatly denies the charge, then does what's best to continue his business. This protects him legally and tries to protect the business. He has to deny the charge, those falsely accused are expected to. If you finesse it, it's usually assumed there is some truth to it that you are dancing around. Telling others not to harass her is almost a legal requirem…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 11:53 PM
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I've posted all sorts of stuff in /r/relationships. But the only thing that got me banned was being somewhat anti-abortion. Immediate ban when I posted that. They banned you for crossposting this? lol
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 07:55 PM
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Not that many soccer fans, though they were mostly men. I've heard that Brazilian men are very direct. We could learn from them. Don't you think Brazilian men have a clue about what works with Brazilian women?
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 07:30 PM
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alternate tldr: you have fulfilled the biological purpose of having sex. It's better than spilling sperm. But it's harder.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 07:16 PM
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I have experience with a pregnant wife and raising children with that wife. Once she is pregnant, life is never the same again. You are not children any more, you are parents. She is not just attracted to you any more. If she's a good mother, her main attraction shifts to the baby. But congratulations, truly. You have successfully passed on your genetic heritage. Now you will spend 20 years raising that child, more if you have more children. You will be young enough to enjoy your grandchildren. …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 06:58 PM
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At some point in marriage if not before, maintaining sexual frame becomes tiring. It's especially difficult when you and your wife are both absorbed in child raising, as tends to happen these days. And both men and women get older. Men should not have to use Cialis to get a woman to keep her vows. That wasn't the deal. Use those products, or lift, or whatever, if you really want to. Not out of fear of what the woman will do if you don't. Then there's an alternate frame available: "you keep your …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 03:42 PM
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I've had programming jobs. First of all, before knowing whether you are beta or alpha, they might test you on coding and programming skills. It's a shitty sort of job because the job itself promotes a beta mindset, indeed the corporate culture where I've worked has usually punished alpha traits, and beta behavior was even culturally expected. I am so glad I am not doing that shit any more. But good luck to you, at least it's money,
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:11 AM
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I don't think there's any man who most girls want to sleep with. Many girls are shy, many girls have other relationships they won't cheat on, etc. You know you're attractive once you see that your attributes -- even some very ordinary ones -- are the things women need and are attracted to. I promise you without knowing you, that there are many such things about you. But you have to know it, before you'll believe me.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:08 AM
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You need to discover the alpha man within. "Self confidence" is the expression of that man. Game tactics and lines are examples and good ideas such a man might do, so they are training wheels to get you started. Be yourself. Your alpha self.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:06 AM
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I know some hot looking women, and they are not all about their own hotness. In fact, women are all insecure about their looks. These women have personalities, and some of them like people like me. So yes, even though I (the man) am short and overweight, I have many other high quality attributes. Of course a hot looking woman who likes those attributes, and my frame, would date me if I were dating.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 02:03 AM
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Keep that white knighting in Mexico please. Sometimes these tactics come in handy, esp. for the VLTR known as marriage with kids.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:34 AM
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You're not married are you? Years into a marriage, things have clearly become ongoing low-grade warfare. You can't separate because you are both there for the kids. So the shit drags on. Hopefully at least my sons learn something about women from it.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:10 AM
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OP do you have my wife? Or just an exact copy? This is exactly the shit she does.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:06 AM
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Estrogen is chemically similar to testosterone, but it's "aromatized", i.e. it's testosterone with a benzene ring added. Any chemists out there will know that benzene is toxic.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 12:53 AM
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I was on a jury once, when I was a young man a year or two out of college. In the 30 or so years since then I have never been called again in any other state. Hm wonder why ... The case involved a man accused of going around a neighborhood exposing himself to young boys. The judge was onboard with the prosecution looking for a conviction. The boys were coached by the state psychologist and all used the same wording to describe the man's allegedly exposed penis. The prosecution's theory actually …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 12:34 AM
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Yes this "outcry" is racist against Asians. Seriously. But that racism is OK. The anti-racism thing is just to protect our underperforming minorities, not the Asians.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:39 PM
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Why cancel out your provider game via 1 and 3? Buy a pickup truck or a sports car, exactly the opposite of your advice, and do hint that you make a lot of money, or that you will. But remember she was asking all about your money, so once you're done plowing that furrow, next her. She's not a keeper. While dating, you have every right to be doing character assessment. If a girl is genuinely unexcited by your material stuff but interested in you personally, you've got a possible keeper for the lon…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:12 PM
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If you have a stack of paper, or even if you don't, you promise it, but don't deliver it. It's the promise that evokes the moisture. When it's delivered, then comes dryness as she mounts the pedestal of having received provision. Rented Porsche game.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:09 PM
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Just remember if everyone learns game then game is a non factor and you are a back to being a blue pill beta ... I don't think so. Because game does not target the rational mind. With game, you bypass the process of the girl comparing you to her expectations, other men, hopefully even past lovers, and get her in the RIGHT NOW that her snatch needs some relief. You provide your services to give that relief. She reacts normally to sex, if she hasn't had lots of "lovers" yet, and oxytocin released …
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:02 PM
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She doesn't regret any of her past relationships. That means she still holds a flame for them, still remembers them, still sees them as more alpha than they guy posting this. If they are married for 50 years, when she fucks this guy she'll remember those football players or whatever who really made her earth move. She's still loyal to them and won't put them in second place to this guy. Next. I am not exactly clear why she is taking this "time out" with a guy a year younger than she is, like a k…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:47 PM
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I just get amused when I see stuff like this. There's some justice there. But I don't get my main kicks out of life this way, I doubt anyone here does. We're busy attracting women we are interested in, "beating the system" that way.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:21 PM
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I am a believer in market forces. Furthermore I see evidence that it's happening already. There's a profusion of hamstering online by these older women, "where have all the good men gone", etc. For every one bold/stupid enough to post that stuff, there are many dealing with it quietly but no less easily. The first wave of effects is in place. And the second must be for younger women to see this and react so it doesn't happen to them. I also see this happening. I am reading quite a few posts in /…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:56 PM
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It may well be destroying the current fucked up mode of civilization, so we can build a better civilization anew. One where men get fertile women and fertile women seek to settle down with men. One where a marriage is for a lifetime, kids have a stable home life, and there are more kids because people settle down early enough to bear them. Now that feminism has created this fucked up "society" we live in, you expect us to support this status quo? I don't think that's going to happen. We can impr…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:51 PM
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They thought that was just in the bad old days and now they've tamed men so it's not necessary to worry about that. We're bringing back those (good/bad) old days!
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:17 PM
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If you came onto her, she should have turned it down. Stopped it cold, certainly stopped it before it got far. The only way you should be able to have sex with someone else's wife, where she's blameless, is very forcible rape or rape drugs.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 08:26 PM
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She certainly betrayed him. It doesn't reduce her fault at all. He may have also betrayed his friend. But it certainly doesn't reduce the wife's (that should now be ex-wife's) guilt.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 08:24 PM
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No, there's a difference. If a man works, he gets results. Men can learn to generate attraction. if you're an ugly girl, it's hard. Some men will never give you a chance. But I think you can find someone. If you're past the wall, it's impossible or should be. Some men, like me, will even judge you morally for having played the carousel too long. Other men will just make the calculation that they want a working uterus.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 05:14 PM
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If anything will change them it will be market forces. It's too late for this woman, but the smarter ones among younger women will read comments like hers and consider their own situation, just as we are doing. Some of these younger women will make the decision to get off the carousel quickly if they get on at all. And that's what will make a difference, perhaps for the next generation of men and women.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 05:05 PM
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She didn't stick with the nice guys in her 20's. No way those guys should forgive and forget now. They see an old heavily used woman, they can probably imagine her antics 10 years earlier and accord her respect and consideration accordingly.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:57 PM
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No, she always had the weak brain. It's just that when younger, she got so much validation it didn't matter. Or maybe it did. If she had had a stronger brain capable of abstract thought, she would have hypothesized that a wall might exist, looked for evidence, found it, and "defied social norms" by settling down in time. It's an IQ test to prevent the mentally weak women from passing on their genes. It's a choice they have to make themselves. For various reasons, neither their male nor their fem…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:52 PM
3

I think a "gold star" lesbian is defined as one that has never had a man's dick in her.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:47 PM
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And then discovering, to her shock and horror, that the 4's and 5's that were there waiting for her 10 years ago promising undying devotion now pump and dump her too. There must be some social conditioning that can fix that bad bad male behavior! (lol)
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:44 PM
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Her post is pointless. She's asking why it's socially unacceptable for young guys to have LTR with her over-the-wall self. The problem isn't whether it's socially acceptable. It's that each one, individually, decides that she's not LTR material. It's not social acceptability that leads men to want young fertile healthy women, preferably those who haven't fucked 10 or more men before them. It's instinct, supported by good logical reasons. She's one of these people deluded by left wing beliefs tha…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:41 PM
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And it gets super upvoted. We're fighting an infestation of trolls here ...
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:23 PM
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The golf club one is kinda expensive to fix. The other two seem OK in appropriate circumstances. I've had friends like that. Relax.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:22 PM
1

Rationally if both a man and woman are in debt, and they like each other aside from the debt, they can pair up and be in debt together. But it makes more sense to do a LTR other than marriage, if marriage means each becomes legally responsible for the other's debt as well as their own. Weigh this against the joint tax filing and insurance coverage benefits of marriage, which especially kick in if one partner works and the other stays at home (e.g. with kids.)
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 02:35 PM
1

That's impressive, we keep reading about men who are pressured to pay off wife's (or girlfriend's) student loan debt.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 02:32 PM
1

Women will be in debt too. It could further encourage "overseas game" where you marry a girl who doesn't have US school debt because she's not from here. As well as she's less likely to be a used up whore, and she'll appreciate your SMV as a good American man more.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 02:31 PM
2

What a bitch, why did she take that role and then fuck it up like that?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 06:20 AM
1

But women are attracted because of weakness. You could say that about any girl that isn't giving you "strong independent woman" bullshit. You think she's only attracted because of her drug and related problems? What is the evidence for that? Is this a part of a pattern? I might not know because I haven't been around drug issues much.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 04:01 AM
1

Thanks for clarifying what you are saying then. Not.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:54 AM
2

Harsh how? No alimony? No alimony if you're a man?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:52 AM
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The minute he got into Juilliard, or especially Yale, he should have upgraded his woman. Rather than getting locked down while she had no wins under her belt and was exhibiting spending issues. It's kind of amazing that she went from a jewelry store to Wall street. I hardly hear of that happening. Certainly not to men, but I guess it really is much easier for a woman to get most jobs.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:50 AM
0

It's fine to be friends with women as long as they are attracted to you. Act right (weight lifting definitely not required) and enough will be attracted that the rest will also be attracted.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:40 AM
1

One girl with an interest in you as a beta orbiter certainly will try to put things in the way of you meeting her friends on a different basis.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:40 AM
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It was typical female competitive / nasty behavior. In one comment she (1) keeps you away from the competition, and (2) beta-shames you for asking. For both reasons (either is sufficient), don't give her words any attention. Go and hit up her friends too, and expect some positive results. If there weren't some risk to her, she wouldn't have bothered to try to keep you away from them. Interestingly, in this interaction, she can try to influence you, but she will have no influence on the other wom…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 03:29 AM
1

ok use them as a bridge or TEMPORARY crutch. Whatever you did under the influence, you can do without the drug.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 01:30 AM
0

You don't have to go to the gym, that's just one way of improving yourself. Don't do it for girls, there are so many other ways.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 01:25 AM
1

I want to address why people don't talk about the answers (which seems to be the topic in the thread title), not why people don't ask the questions (which seems to describe most of the other comments). It's seen as a direct assault on women. It's not, of course, but it's seen as too strategic. We're taught that we should be ourselves bla bla bla, and also that it's wrong to manipulate women. (It's fine though for women to manipulate men.) These are indeed ways of manipulating women, totally lega…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 01:19 AM
1

I think he was trapping them. He revealed the strength of his position a bit at a time. By the time it was all revealed and on camera, the women could not be sure they would not be arrested anyway. So he drew them out. Gave them the emotional drama they deserved. Good game. Good video, well done. A dominant, controlled performance.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 12:45 AM
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With all due respect, you don't have kids do you? The problem is very simple before the kids come. After, well that's success, you have passed on your genes. But new variables enter the relationship. This woman is dealing with them in a way that does not include frivorce. The rest, the guy can handle with some education.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:54 PM
1

It's well documented that when the kids come, attraction for the man is partially replaced by maternal love to the kids. It's happened to me as a married man with kids, but I have not heard of any men it hasn't happened to. That said, no sex for 3 years means the guy isn't using game properly. Too timid, too beta, whatever, he needs to read red-pill and pickup stuff to fix his attitude. I bet that when he was dating this woman, he moved to the sex with the expectation that it would happen. He ne…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:46 PM
3

I was a geek who got my first girlfriend because she found me in the high school computer lab. She wasn't into computers but was turned on because I was, at a time that not many kids did this. That doesn't mean you should program computers. Pursue YOUR interests, be good at them. Dominance is attractive.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:38 PM
1

Why, what's wrong with Juco? We were thinking of sending our oldest there when he graduates in a couple years, to save money and get engineering prerequisites out of the way in a non flunkout atmosphere.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:36 PM
1

Attractive / shape -- useful but not necessary, and probably won't change much from now til next year anyway. And you do NOT want to be seen as someone who is doing this because it's what girls want or are attracted to. Redpill actually is not about lifting. Don't be a pussy, be detached, don't defuse tension for girls -- these are important. It's hard to change your reputation with everyone in HS, but you might find some cute girls who are brainy or otherwise not in the "cool" group, bring your…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:33 PM
1

I'll second (2). I don't think (1) is necessary. Definitely do your job in school, but that's for you. Always be primarily about yourself and, secondarily, your guy friends and your activities. As for the muscles, you decide if you want more muscles or not. It's not necessary, and more weight isn't always great as you get older.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:30 PM
2

When things get tense with a girl, do not defuse the tension. Let it sit, you be comfortable in the tension. Let the tension do its work, relax and ride it. Do not help her by relieving it for her. Tension creates moisture. Helping girls creates dryness. I do not know any exceptions to these rules.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:27 PM
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It is admirable. Admiration, either way, is not the emotion we want in seduction.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:25 PM
6

Don't take care of girls. Nobody can force you to do it or seriously give you shit if you don't! Well done!
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:24 PM
10

Or whatever isn't jailbait in your state.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:20 PM
4

Yoga class seems like such a great place. am surprised more single guys don't do it. Fuck lifting to meet a girl someday, go do yoga and meet women now.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:20 PM
1

Definitely, FZ with a girl you dumped (or refused sex with, even if it's vague) is a nice place where she'll be very friendly and open. FZ with a girl who dumped you (or refused sex with you, or scared you off) is not worth being in, but it is still possible to turn it around by changing your behavior. If you fuck a girl who put you into FZ, you'll probably have a hard time even afterward because she'll resent that you turned it around. Her conscious mind cannot deal with the dissonance. But it'…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:17 PM
1

It's just female-talk for "I am curvy" i.e. "I am heavy". Don't take it personally, just next. Or pnd if you want the experience.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:12 PM
2

Hm, my grad school had some very shapely women. I married one of them.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:11 PM
1

It's women's way of disqualifying themselves (since they can't fake being not skinny). By making it sound like they're disqualifying you.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:10 PM
1

The difference would only be that small for a pretty unremarkable definition of genius. What are they using, 130 IQ?
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:08 PM
0

Women's IQ's do cluster closer to the mean than men's, but there are certainly large differences, and those differences matter to the IQ of your eventual children.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:07 PM
2

Childbirth usually means single mom, an automatic disqualifier for LTR but not for data collection.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 11:06 PM
1

Point is (1) help the guy out and (2) avoid blowback in the long run. Don't be a weasel.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 09:22 AM
-3

That statement makes no sense.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 09:21 AM
2

What if he doesn't have her on a pedestal? What if he's taking the red pill? What if he finds out later and, um, comes after you to kill you because he lost all respect for you and your lying? Women get turned on by being cheated on. Women lie to each other about such things, but it's a sort of female drama thing. What the hell, they basically hate each other anyway. Guys own what they did. Don't act like a woman. If he asks you, own it and tell the poor guy the truth. What would you want if the…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 09:20 AM
2

Laughing at him is a pretty bad idea. That's what women do with each other, but it's not masculine behavior. I think you can best limit the damage by telling the truth. The guy will respect it more than weaseling.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 11:00 PM
1

Yes there are a lot of problems with the current system. It's the same system that's been there basically forever and our universities are the best in the world, so it's got some credibility still. But some of the shit going on beneath the surface is probably unbelievable to someone who hasn't been involved professionally in academics, at least to the level of professional (PhD) training. I make these points to counter people saying "well that would destroy the credibility of the system, so it c…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:38 PM
1

I'm certainly not anti-woman. I'm even married to one!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:07 PM
1

We don't have to stop at how it was in some imagined olden days. Then someone will start talking about "chivalry" bla bla bla. Females pushed things way over one way with their pressure. We should push ours as far as possible too, overcorrect. Women are starting to say "yes you're right, let's all stop playing games" which I refuse. I won't stop now that I am finally winning!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 07:00 PM
1

RP is partly about taking women off the gravy train of betas buying stuff for them, helping them at work, and marrying them after the alphas don't return their texts any more. Without those betas acting as supporters and shock absorbers, life would be insecure for these women! And to want that is misogynistic! Even though some women have the ethics of being willing to give that up, still, what about the ones that aren't? We musn't (gasp) shame them!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:51 PM
1

You're really going to compare a female gameplayer who is getting unmerited academic rewards because she's sleeping with her supervisor, to a patient who relies on his or her doctor to overcome an illness? A PhD isn't a human right. Perhaps it is a human right to have the opportunity to compete for one if one has the ability. And indeed, nobody says these women can't go through the old fashioned way, score really high on the very tough exams when it counts, write a truly strong and original diss…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:38 PM
1

And indeed that is the net result. I went to grad school in the 90's. I'd say a good half the female grad students were doing better than their abilities merited, maybe based on as little as their manipulation of beta assistant professors. I saw a total moron woman admitted to my PhD program, smarter guys pulled her thru her coursework and prepping for qualifying exams, she was probably gifted with some passes on qualifiers too, the evidence was destroyed by flunking those guys out on the qualif…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:25 PM
2

People with tenure don't get sacked. Unless it's very very serious or embarrassing for the university, they have no friends left there, etc.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:21 PM
1

OK. Enjoy your anger. I am. :)
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:10 PM
1

With all the attention from the Federal Government aimed at shutting down college sex life, is college still a good place for getting pussy? goodlookingloser did a post about this. You have to be in the upper 20% of college male SMV to get the pussy, and once you're out the system is entrenched and there's no good way in. And if she decides you weren't handsome enough, or she really is mad you escaped from her friendzone that night, you'll be expelled if they decide it's "more likely than not" t…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:09 PM
2

This guy really was/is a good friend. He tried everything to help OP overcome his white knight tendencies. We should have a thread on how to do that. I've tried and run into the same thing, a sort of confusion or moral outrage even though I am rigorous in saying things that are based on evidence and logic.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:05 PM
1

OK but there are lots of 90% DT out there that have most of the traits but do understand loyalty. Your twisting of language won't get you far here.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:03 PM
1

Yes we have been overrun with trolls the past couple weeks. I think it's abating somewhat, maybe they've given their "best" effort. Hope so, it is annoying to have to flick them away.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:01 PM
1

I had such a friend. He was never anything but a friend to me. He taught me how to play snooker. He invited me to the strangest party I have ever been to. Stop trying to fuck up a good friendship because OP is learning more than you think he should. OP gets a lot out of it. This guy helped him overcome his white knight tendencies. That's major.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 05:57 PM
2

You were OK because YOU were the one turning down sex. Then the girl will almost always come back. They feel rejected and that gets their hamster all excited. She still remembers that feeling now. It was a great move in advance of an LTR. In OP, he won the first round (she begged him to stay) but she won the second (refusing to go past "second base".) I am thinking maybe he should go no-contact on her, because I don't know how I would reopen this without seeming to want to go past second base, i…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 05:49 PM
6

You did great. This chick had you friendzoned. When you upgrade from friendzone, girls resent you (with their brain) at the same time as they are wet (with their snatch.) The dissonance can exist because the brain and snatch operate quite independently. But the FZ judgment that you are overcoming is still making her brain put up extra heavy LMR. Go back to attraction with her and I expect you'll get further next time. If she leave you in "orbit", just dump her. If she gets angry, laugh because y…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 05:45 PM
1

Good example. Despite all that, the second girl's reaction was not worse than the first.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:18 PM
0

Yes it doesn't matter if you're huge and muscular like the first guy, or average size (at most) and in merely good shape like the second guy. It's all about the attitude. Both those girls feel the guy could pound them in bed and be in charge in life. There were no beta cues. You don't have to be a UFC guy to lose beta cues.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:17 PM
4

He says he lives in a no-fault state. Therefore it doesn't matter who sues for divorce, and no reason is required. Marriage only exists by the continuing agreement of both parties. By having asked for divorce earlier, he is saying "I can go to the courthouse any time and divorce you. I am staying around for now as a favor to you." Dread was already in place from that moment. This latest revelation just made it seem far more real to his current wife.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:06 PM
0

That's certainly what she thought she knew. She planned on being in control, but something happened that was out of her control. G2 is out of her control. (she never even bothered tryong to talk to G2 the whole night.) The tingles generated in herself (G1) are out of G1's control.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 01:24 PM
0

Right. Game techniques are just examples of things that you could say and do, that are congruent with the right mindset. Things you can pull out of your bag of tricks if you ever feel you don't know what to do -- which won't happen often.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 01:05 PM
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How can she poison the well? He's done nothing wrong. If they fuck, she's the one who cheated. In fact he can already poison the well about how she was hanging out with him, wanting to fuck when she already has a bf, etc. It's documented now!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 01:01 PM
0

Tingles don't do that. And if it does, so what? Relax and enjoy it. He didn't do anything illegal or even anything the feminists could bitch him out about. They're all about freedom and personal choice, right?
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:53 PM
2

Women aren't really "friends" with their female friends either, by what we'd call friendship. If they might be real friends, they say "best friend" or, since they aren't so sure about them either, "best friend forever". But this is a side issue. The FZ is not "guys I would never sleep with" but "guys I won't sleep with". It means they are not over the barrier, but it doesn't mean they can never get over the barrier. See the woman does not control that barrier. It's an involuntary thing, "tingles…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:44 PM
1

Or, use the situation to try different things and see what works. Tingles are involuntary and don't depend much on physical appearance. When she is reacting angrily in a way that's socially less acceptable than what you are doing, you are onto something though you may still have beta issues. At least she's noticed you. Once noticed, if you are non-beta, you're in.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:40 PM
0

As we see, guys DO have the power to turn those situations around and often to seize the emotional high ground (battle wise) in the relationship, if they act the right way in the FZ. OP did that here, a great example, but not the only way to do it by any means. Women have no good way to deal with a guy in the FZ who starts acting fuckable. So they have to lie about the existence of the FZ. It's a pathetic statement, already refuted, but it's all they have. When a guy in their FZ starts generatin…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:38 PM
1

No reason to, he won't get any extra brownie points for that. There's a reason things are the way they are. These are very smart people and what they are doing is optimal in their environment.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:43 AM
2

If the person is mediocre and is known to be surviving in the doctoral program only because she's sleeping with the prof., or that's suspected because better people than she were flunked out on qualifying exams, well she won't get much respect. But she'll get a PhD, which is more than she would have gotten on merit alone.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:41 AM
2

Why on earth not, that's why you agreed to supervise them.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:40 AM
9

That is not my experience of academia, in a very top ranked department, nor anywhere I taught. If you're admitting and screwing a string of cute female grad students, but you get published in the top journals, as long as you stay out of jail, all will be shoved under the rug. If you are very proper and don't get the publications, out you go.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:38 AM
1

Senior faculty have tenure. Junior faculty are judged on publications and perhaps teaching evaluations. See how others' opinions of whether you are treating grad students either too well or too badly matter? Clue: they don't. At all.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:35 AM
1

Yeah yeah yeah I guess you've never been in the academic world. It's an incestuous place. If you don't do it, someone else will. Besides, all the faculty think they are the smartest on the planet, and who else is as high quality as someone else in their world?
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:33 AM
2

When I was a grad student in a STEM department, I dated and then married one of the female grad students. Two of the younger male assistant professors, who were single, hated my guts, I think because of this. They did their best to wreck my career. Indeed I am not in academics any more, probably because of those efforts. (We did both complete the PhD, though they would have been happy to stop that too. We were protected by senior faculty.) So there's another side to this story. Yes the male facu…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:29 AM
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And good job using G1 for social proof. All that scowling she did just made G2 feel like she wanted to be with you more. Women don't give a shit about other women especially if they don't know them or even if you did.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:44 AM
8

That's not the usual cause and effect men report. Usually men are saying that losing the beta improves or saves their marriage. It's certainly helped mine. Maybe she was out the door anyway and you just grew backbone too late to save that particular marriage? Or do you think your wife would have kept you around for the purpose of disrespecting you?
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:34 AM
6

Look at all the female hate in the comments. But hey I don't care. If I were on the dating market I would not be looking for cougars. Now I can either tell women that honestly while they have a chance to use the information, or I can stay silent and reject them all the same when they're too old Which is better? Society will change either way. The Wall is moving to younger ages now. Men used to marry infertile old women with other men's children. I don't think that is happening much any more. Whe…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:32 AM
1

Yes, don't be scared of pushback or sarcasm from a woman. I've come to enjoy it from my wife. In the long run you are maintaining frame. This other stuff is just the required work along the way. But women sure do require a lot of work.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:22 AM
1

Maybe they were trying to show that they weren't beta providing for the other girl. Yeah I can believe it. When the man is in charge, women will bring their problems and issues to him for judgment.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:21 AM
2

So is this the logic? "No, seriously pick me up" means she expects to command you and disrespect you, so you switch smoothly to fuck-you mode. I am like that when someone asks me an inappropriate question. "So how much money do you make?" I answer whatever I want her to think, convincingly, because it's not a polite question to ask in my opinion. I have to do it smoothly without a clue to her, because otherwise the lie would not work and instead her question would have worked to extract that I w…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:12 AM
1

He's not her boss. He shouldn't have to manage her. He'd be better off documenting her fuckups and trying to get her fired, or at least to cover his own ass in the context of their required work interactions. Making her job into child's play is too much trouble. That's for girlfriends, not work colleagues.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:08 AM
2

Indeed, and women know what other women are like. That's why they don't cooperate very much. They are always covering their asses with other women. Men have an advantage here. You can say no with a masculine frame, and it comes across as aloof and unreachable, not bitchy. Just do it. Be just as petty and calculating as women with these women, but do it with frame.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 12:00 AM
2

Not with women. Stop trying to get OP to make the same mistake again hoping for a different result.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:56 PM
2

Women might fail to do the favor as requested when the favor (a quiet autopsy as I remember) was needed. Women can't handle that level of trust and discretion. That's why they are kept out of the business. Can you imagine that life having to deal with women in decision making capacities?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:55 PM
1

Same shit as women do when there's a breakup. Try to poison the well. This bitch is a bitch. Not all women are that devious, but she's clearly turned against you. Try to document her mistakes and get her fired, that's all I can suggest.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:42 PM
1

Yeah, with women you have to enumerate your favors and make things explicit, like they do with each other.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:36 PM
2

White American men are respected. White American women, not so much. For all the reasons we discuss here, MGTOW, etc. We can go overseas to get laid, get a wife, etc. American women probably get rejected overseas. We're good enough looking, fair minded, easy to get along with, it's easy for us to make friends. That "overseas option" we have drives them nuts.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:34 PM
2

I wouldn't hesitate. Send a simple note to her "when can you pay me back the money?" If no reply, forward it to her mother. I think the F buddy status is over so it's all about getting back the money. And in any case, that has to be settled before she respects you again.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:27 PM
1

You have to learn to say no to a woman. Your instinctive response to a woman should be no, not yes. You can always amend the no to a yes. Not the other way. "Do you have a way to get those tickets?" "No, I don't." I almost wrote "No, I'm sorry" but then I realized, you never tell a woman you're sorry either. You just tell her no. Just do that, and it establishes your frame of not serving her.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 11:05 PM
2

Men, knowing this, should quietly vote for the male candidate (esp. if straight) unless there's a strong preference for other reasons.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 09:55 PM
2

These women seem to be permanently on their periods. Hope they enjoy their cats. They say that men should not be allowed to call themselves feminists. I've read elsewhere (jezebel and thoughtcatalog both, I think) that anyone that isn't a feminist isn't a misogynist. Therefore, it follows logically that all men are misogynists! QED, the logic is infallible. (rolleyes)
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 09:51 PM
2

Affirmative action means tipping the scales in favor of certain protected classes, typically blacks, hispanics and women, now maybe also gays. White straight men are the only group that is never never never ever a protected class under these laws. Even Asian men can be favored as nonwhite in some cases, as I recall. Hiring based on qualification only is what I like to do, but it's in conflict with the idea of affirmative action.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:49 PM
-1

By the way, what's happening to you sounds like what happened to me. Shortly after I adopted some RP-ish ideas, I didn't even get much of a chance to try them out "in the wild". I got pulled off the market, HARD. I went along. A few years later we got married and we're coming up on 20 years. It hasn't been perfect but life isn't perfect. We have kids, are still together, doing well by most people's standards. I think the hard pull is what it seems like, it demonstrates real commitment. You'll ha…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:23 PM
2

Most people would feel they had to answer that question. Thinking the business has some affirmative action goals, etc. So you'll bounce them for that. If you can get away with it, great. Because the ones most certain to identify themselves will be those looking for an affirmative action boost. Well I personally disagree with affirmative action, so if you can finesse the whole thing this way, more power to ya. Some reasonable candidates who aren't looking for that boost will get a chance at your …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:22 AM
45

And even among women, there's more deal-making than doing favors in an open way. Look at a bunch of women when it comes time to settle a restaurant check. They will work on it for 10 minutes to make sure each person is paying her full fair share. Whereas a guy would slap his credit card on the table and say to others "you get the next one OK?" So a woman doesn't really know what to do with a guy's favors. Women don't do such favors, so this guy is just a sucker, not even as smart as other women.…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:16 AM
8

So we should never trust female coworkers with any important task? Seems to me then we should get rid of those female coworkers. Right?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:13 AM
9

Game doesn't have to mean sex. It means proper interactions, for whatever goals. Game could help him establish a situation where she gives him more room, because (unlike her female subordinates) she sees this man as a leader and relates to him with the appropriate sex-role. I had a female boss once, and it was the easiest boss I had, maybe ever. But she was pretty hard on our female team member, who didn't get the break from her that she was used to by tossing her long blond hair around.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:10 AM
12

Yes of course, NAWALT. Right? You can get a woman to do the favor in return. But to get her to run with it, really do it right, not so much. That's what happened here, she fucked up the important job with the client. She did something, but not the right or adequate thing. Her attention was already elsewhere.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:07 AM
-6

I wonder why DiCaprio dumped her for Lively. Lively is 26, she is 28, Rafaeli has the better body doesn't she? Or maybe DiCaprio is gay like lots of Hollywood people and just uses these females for appearances. I don't see anything wrong in what she says. Women dream of someone big, strong and famous. Maybe the "big and strong" thing was against DiCaprio who is, I think, short. But I assume he probably dumped her. Anyway I guess she's sort of humble bragging, there are no instructions for contac…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 03:18 AM
3

Just say "I don't like you texting other guys when we are together." (Note, this is not a contract or a deal or begging. This is you, the leader, setting the direction. This implies you have the hand to do it. Make that assumption. Nobody will assume it if you don't. If you do, you'll be surprised how much authority you have. After all, your proper role is authority, but she's not going to ask you to fill that role, you just have to know to do it.) If she continues to text guys in front of you, …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 03:05 AM
5

I've found that not-apologizing is very effective. Alpha frame is easy, it's just the lack of beta cues. Apologizing is beta, therefore don't do it. I mean, they were disrespecting you all day with this shit with other guys. Finally you'd had enough. They were acting like asses not you. Even when you do make a mistake (you didn't here) consider if it's worth apologizing. Your role is to handle the situation for them, to lead. They don't expect perfection, but leadership. Perfection isn't what ge…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:58 AM
1

I did learn something from MGTOW about outcome independence and generally not giving-a-shit. That's alpha frame, basically all there is to it. As for ditching women altogether, I am in the same situation, married raising children, so while sometimes I just get tired of the whole situation move to a warm foreign country and teach English or something, I am also in the situation of working thru this at least until the kids are better off. But RP / PUA / MGTOW stuff has helped me act more effective…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:43 AM
3

I empathize too. It's not a bad thing at all. Empathy with girls helps you use game and redpill insights much more effectively, I've found. That's how you know what to say when. Of course empathy is not the same as sympathy. You can empathize with what a woman is thinking, and be thinking to yourself what an amazing bitch she is because of it. However you can't solve all the world's problems. That's something I was probably older than you when I learned it. As for the anger, it will pass. It wil…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:26 AM
5

On Tinder, where looks is all there are, of course looks matter, and everyone acknowledges they are there for ONS. Duh. It's actually a toxic blue pill belief that looks matter very much for men. Why is this sub so full of disinformation the past few weeks? Someone ismounting a major campaign to screw it up and confuse everyone.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 02:12 AM
1

Yes all our mothers are flawed. They are just women. But they treated us specially with maternal love. No other woman will do that, no matter how imperfect it was. The moment I really internalized that my relationships with girls, girlfriends, my wife would not be like that with my mother, is the day I dropped the beta and became, thereby, alpha.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 12:01 AM
16

It's really stupid. According to this moron, boys restrict the thought of other boys but girls do not. Where do you feel more relaxed socially? Hanging out with other guys, making whatever jokes you want, or around girls some of whom will getcha if you deviate from political correctness, or get too physical with them?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:38 PM
1

Women aren't the future without men. Your first sentence is blue pill.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:26 PM
1

He doesn't need to point it out on camera. He can point that out to anyone evaluating the evidence. He did great.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:24 PM
1

Maybe one of them knew she was stealing the stuff and told the other one it was hers, so only one of them knew. I would be very surprised if both of them were just confused -- no way.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:19 PM
2

Maybe so, hoping to haul him into court for assault. Even as a skinny guy he could overcome one of those chicks physically, almost any man is stronger than almost any woman, our muscles are just stronger. She was angry and bitched out the guy. It's worked for her her whole life. Well except that no guy wants her, but that makes her a proud and independent lesbian. Vast numbers of lesbians are despondent inside that men do not want them. When I see it, I feel very sad for them, because I naturall…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:17 PM
1

Be careful doing that. Impersonating a lover is the only dangerous lie you can tell a girl. In some states obtaining consent that way is "rape by deception". It's fine to lie about your income, sex history, family, job, disease status (afaik), absolutely anything. Legally that's all fine, just a part of the game. Like women wearing perfume, men wearing fake hair, etc. But the one lie it's illegal to tell is that you're someone else.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 11:05 PM
1

What choice did he have? Have her plan the timing and strategy and lose 3/4 of his stuff, plus lose the satisfaction?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:55 PM
1

This is all true, but if the girl is with you as a beta provider and you haven't done some magic for her to see you as alpha (finding her cheating won't do that) then she'll probably turn down the plate role. So you push for sex or whatever without disclosing that now you see her as a plate.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:54 PM
1

I don't know any guys who have a habit of being cheated on. If she complains about being mistreated to her friends, you just tell those friends that she cheated on you. She probably loses most or all of those friends. Women do not tend to condone this in other women.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:52 PM
1

Why would you disclose that the sexual relationship is now as a plate? That makes it pretty likely that she would refuse. After all she finds you less attractive that way and thought she was getting betabux into the deal. If you disclose that you are taking the betabux off the table, then you create problems for yourself unnecessarily. But be absolutely sure to take the betabux off the table quietly, protect your assets.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:51 PM
2

Sorry about the house -- cancelling the contract costs you your deposit around here, typically 10% of the price. But cheaper than the alternative, and the good thing is that she gets none of it. It goes to the innocent seller.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:44 PM
3

When it gets back to you, simply report that she cheated. The sanctions for girls cheating and being outed are pretty much social ostracism. Don't underestimate how much she doesn't want you to do this.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:41 PM
1

Use her for social proof for a while.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:40 PM
-1

Yes it's possibly abusive. That's the point. You don't care about that any more, you are not protecting her any more. You are a white knight. If you think that means you're better, you are entitled to your opinion.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:39 PM
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The man is not an idiot. He guessed wrong. If he had guessed right, everyone here would be saying "I had a feeling dogecoin would do well ..." The man made a strategic mistake in that he already had the girl supposedly so he had that to lose, and no other girl to gain. I am not impressed with her decision to leave him over this, the flood of "you go girl" comments tells me this sub is flooded with white knights and females impersonating males, trying to demoralize this place. She was certainly e…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:31 PM
1

Title is wrong. Fiancee was 25, not post wall.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:26 PM
1

Good on the guy for finding out about the fiancee. He should have pretended to do this and actually not, to test her motivations. Bad: he lost the money. Good: he exposed the gold digger.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:23 PM
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I like. She doesn't get proof of any of it. She's not entitled to proof and, legally, you are not committing rape by deception by lying this way. It's considered the same as women using makeup: within the rules of the game. (Rape by deception is just impersonating someone that she is willing to have sex with. Since I am a husband, I am quite OK with this. I don't want someone raping my wife by pretending he's me.)
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:09 PM
1

There's an area on the form to identify the "survivor" and an area to identify the "perpetrator". Since, presumably the person doing the report will usually say she is the survivor, then the reporter is identified. But it would be up to the university to disclose that to you. Since they say they will describe the allegation so that, if true, you'd better stop it, presumably they would tell you.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:06 PM
2

You certainly don't have to be some sort of dream man to do well with women. Just lose the beta cues, step in and be noticed. Take charge. Their fantasy takes over from there, or something.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:11 PM
3

We need lists of the worst universities in this regard. I suspect the liberal artsy fartsy places, and departments, are the worst for this. They are total waste. Study math, major in math or physical science, do the problem sets, get the degree, get a job, make OK money, get a decent girl. Majoring in liberal arts just seems like walking a minefield. Why let those faggots judge you and give you grades?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 04:52 PM
1

It truly deeply sucks that your parents are undermining you on this. I don't have any suggestions, maybe others do. But from what you write, your parents are damaging you and they should not.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 04:45 PM
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They say it just results in a warning. But it probably also serves as documentation to satisfy the "more likely than not" standard if a formal complaint is filed later, about the same or different incident. Remember, under the Obama rules for the college kangaroo courts, they can discipline you on your permanent record if they find a 51% probability of sexual assault or rape. Obama wants that to be the standard. If someone files this against you, you should probably (1) stay far away from that p…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 04:41 PM
2

I liked the line. Why not go up there and deliver that line and get the fame for it? Besides he looked genuinely hurt that the first guy didn't appreciate his dancing. These judges should have to take it as well as dish it out, it makes the show more entertaining!
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 10:40 PM
4

If he'd said that, Britney would have probably have dissolved in place. It would have been funny!
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 10:38 PM
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His poor dancing was what it is. Maybe you dance better? His response to the first guy was a not good. But letting loose on the first girl was classic and the first guy liked it too. Britney, on the other hand, seems to hate men who assert themselves, especially if she's not hot for them. If she hates so many guys she should not have become a celebrity and tried to take money from them.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 07:46 PM
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Consider her comment: "I want to know who let you onstage. I feel uncomfortable with you even staring at me." What does any of that have to do with any of this? Nothing. She just says this shit automatically when she wants to repress a guy, because she knows that the PC police have protected her when she says it. It just makes me laugh harder at her. Why is she so uncomfortable being stared at? There are so many nude photos of her on the net.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 07:43 PM
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They insult him, he insults them back. He didn't insult first. In fact he was not just responding to a substantive comment, but one that went beyond that to get a bit personal.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 07:34 PM
-1

beside the point. Do you have average or below reading comprehension?
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 07:32 PM
2

Well I'm in an adult social circle (married with kids type people mostly) where we have house parties at Christmas and some other occasions. And it's usually optional to bring drinks. If you ask they'll always say "no of course", but actually many people do and we do. We have a case of wine we bought and keep in our basement, and we bring one bottle to each party. This helps lighten the load on the hosts. I don't see how this is high value or low value. It's just polite behavior. But if we showe…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 07:00 PM
0

It's not "OK"? You seem like some of the bitter bitches on ThoughtCatalog. You just HATE the thought that with some effort and strategy, guys can overcome their disadvantages constructively. Well, go marinate in your hate. lol
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:57 PM
5

Third post like this. TRP is undergoing an aggressive invasion by trolls trying to demoralize and distract us.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:55 PM
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TRP is about how to succeed despite that. Because guys most certainly can.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:54 PM
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You are probably female. What you don't understand or admit is that with some validation or different strategy they would be high value males. Don't you wish that with a bit of work you could be a high value female?
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:53 PM
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He bought her a $3000 purse when she had asked for a $400 piece of jewelry instead. He should stop the expensive gifts. But still not buy her the fairly expensive stuff she asks for.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:32 PM
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OP won't settle for anything but "here I want this, buy it for me." By his action he shows he is willing to be generous with her but not in this particular way. Seems fair to me. He doesn't ask her to buy specific items for him either. (did anyone think to ask OP that?) Getting the gifts he wants her to have is "controlling." I wonder how long it is before he just tells her it isn't working out. Hopefully not long.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:30 PM
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I guess the whole concept doesn't work. The women have sort of valid objections, and it's too hard to overcome them. Key with women: never beg them. Do not bend over backwards, or treat them like they're gold, to get them to your party. Just fucking don't bother with them. Make them unwelcome. Be misogynistic. RP and PUA sites have the methods for interacting with women. It's pretty complete. There is no other "normal life" where you do things differently or different approaches work.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 04:05 PM
1

Also, after sex a woman's body releases oxytocin in her system that creates psychological bonding. A woman who has fucked 10 guys before you will have bonded to 10 guys already. Not only will she remember them indelibly, she will have learned to overcome that bonding, from having to undo it so many times. By the time she gets to you, she may not bond so much any more even after you have sex with her. Far from having gotten anything out of her system by riding the carousel, she will have gotten b…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:48 PM
1

As a former math major type, I can tell you that we aren't all that helpless. And we are good at interpreting experimental evidence, comprehending a theory and extending it to new situations. Nor are all football players jerks. I've never had a problem with them. They can do football, I can do math, we can respect each other. I remember when a football coach complimented me on my sub-8 second 40 yard dash time. Good pros can do it in well under 5 seconds so by their standards it is pathetic. But…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:40 PM
3

Thank you. I agree 100%. The influx now is unlike the typical influx of new, bewildered and angry men. That is fine, we are here to enlighten our brothers who are where we all were before. Speaking for myself, I know that I am grateful for the opportunity. But these newcomers are different. They aren't respecting the idea and trying to learn it and apply it. They are aggressively propagandizing against it, trying to confuse and hobble the idea. I am not grateful for their presence, but I spend t…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:36 PM
1

Being approached is fine, but for that you do have to have very special circumstances. Sometimes it can be arranged, but probably not be me. I don't have the height or the bone structure. But that's not alpha anyway. Would good would this discussion be if it were mainly "be tall, dark and handsome"? The interesting thing is that a guy doesn't need to be any of those things. And approaching isn't about begging. Boy you must not know much.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:32 PM
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Wrong. Alpha is the lack of beta cues. You don't have to be good looking. You don't have to have high SAT's. You don't have to have money. You don't have to have, or to offer, what women want. It's not about women want anyway. It's about generating attraction, which requires just getting noticed (walking up and saying hello is one way, not the only way but not a bad one) and not betaing it up. I think that's all there is to it. This thread is one of the many subversive, treasonous lies to infest…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:13 PM
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Victim blaming. Seriously dude, I'd joke the same way. But if it were said about a woman, they would be screeching about victim blaming, misogyny, etc. It gives you a picture of how easy they have it with their automatic intolerance. Think about it, detecting "victim blaming" in your comment and then piling on ... sounds like fun!
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 02:55 PM
1

And couldn't it also be said that Tracy is a PUA hater?
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 08:57 PM
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Yeah, I got 2 points and he got 31 points. It is much more accurate. tbh, lately I've seen a lot of misleading stuff on TRP. Newcomers please don't misrepresent things. Are all these mistakes really just mistakes? Usually newcomers are angry, this new crop is not angry but ... just wrong.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 07:40 AM
1

For some reason lesbians highly value exclusivity. Guys may think it's hot to fuck a girl who goes both ways. Lesbians don't.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:01 AM
3

So they'll prefer a black guy over an Asian guy with an IQ 40 points higher. Truly bizarre.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 05:01 AM
1

You can certainly have those girls. And we don't want them back.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 04:59 AM
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Remember how the native races of Central and South America thought the white men might be gods. I am white, I don't know why people feel this way about my race, but I do get an edge with everyone but American blacks. American blacks generally nurse a hatred for me, it's a black vs. white competition as far as they are concerned, so I'll make it a competition as far as I am concerned too. And I'll win that contest.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 04:57 AM
3

I agree pussy ain't shit. Because I have access to it. When I hadn't yet experienced it a few times, it was a big deal. It's important for man to get control of the pussy situation adequately, then he can go on to other things, and indeed pussy should not have power over a man.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 04:39 AM
3

Who gives a shit. Go visit a hooker in another town. Chances are, nobody you know will find out.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 04:35 AM
2

100 years of this shit. MRA is just begging for justice. But with women you do not beg, you take. PUA / sexual strategy sort of thinking is how one takes.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 04:33 AM
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In some sense though women are like dogs. They need to follow a leader. Then they will have unquestioning obedience. It's the absence of leadership that sets them free to do damage. Now modern society makes it very hard to be the leader often enough. It's supposed to fuck you up. That's why they made it that way, "women's liberation" and all that. Don't obsess over it. Do your best and beyond that, fuck it. A man should not be acting like a dog, but like a cat. Independent. Aloof. Unpredictable.…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:56 AM
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Major major redpill point. No other woman is like your mother. And when you marry and have kids, your wife will ignore you (and worse) because she feels that love for the kids. Real crap ensues. Many marriages break up because of this.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:43 AM
1

If the number of men and women is equal and all sex is heterosexual, then men and women will have the same average (and total) number of sexual encounters. But not necessarily the same number of sexual partners. All the women may fuck the one super-alpha male. To a lesser extent, that is what happens. More women fuck, but the average man who isn't incel gets sex more often and with more different women.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:32 AM
2

Lock her down and put buns in that oven. Well done.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:24 AM
1

Shoulda caught her while she was still an awkward nerd and before she became obviously hot.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:23 AM
2

They sound like great wife material to me. Not used up sexually, maybe no experience at all, fairly high IQ at least, a bit humble, probably very happy to be a mother of children. Ticks all the boxes, if you don't have to have a supermodel under you in bed, you can have a nice life. After all, you're not a supermodel either. You're both just folks, make a family, bypass the bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:21 AM
1

Don't smile at girls you want to attract. Learn something about approaching. That isn't the way.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:13 AM
1

But it helps us unlearn a bit of our programming to protect our wives. Equal partners I say. If it isn't much to them, it's the same to me.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:10 AM
1

If this is the expectation, next time I have a cold, I'll say it's norovirus. Gotta exaggerate more than they expect, then they'll at least pay attention. :)
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:09 AM
1

No, it's not that. They are hard on themselves too, and especially other women. Women's lib is ruthless in demanding that women get off their asses and out of their houses and DO things. It's that they feel they have the right to use men.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:07 AM
1

Problem is, you probably won't know. Generally you get married young and you get sick old.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 01:06 AM
1

Seems very common from reports here. Any evidence that it's "definitely not that common"? Is that because "women are nice"? lol Women with better self control will stick with you through a cold but if it looks really serious that could matter for the long term, then a different face appears.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:42 PM
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I think you should not be so confident. Wifes will stick around for little things if they see better down the road. If you get really sick or have something terminal, your attraction is gone. Understand? This is all most women are, including most women that men like enough to wife up.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:38 PM
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Maybe this is the problem, I should have nexted my wife, even though we have 2 kids together? When kids come, one gets frequent impossible situations.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:35 PM
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Nope, what you have been taught is wrong. My wife didn't do shit when my parents died. She got cold when I showed weakness. I can tell you I was sort of desperate for help, I felt I was falling into an abyss. I had to find someone else to talk to. In the moment of need my wife pulled away. You can't know it will happen until it happens, but now I find many men reporting the same thing. My conclusion from this, though, is not that you have to maintain frame. But that the woman has thereby earned …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:27 PM
1

You have a lucky husband. How long have you been married? Any kids? Does he earn all the money?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:24 PM
1

I've disagreed with every post you have made so far, now you're the only man I know of who thinks women tend to treat their lover with motherly tenderness. You are a troll.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:21 PM
1

Just LTRs not wives, def. no kids. How long is LTR in that case?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:15 PM
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Lesson: lose all respect for women. Do whatever you want. Don't care if she's attracted or not, fuck her.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:12 PM
3

Not so sure we "aren't doing shit" here? There's an increase in posts by 30+ women asking "where have all the good men gone?" The answer is that they've read about the CC and the Wall, and decided they want something else for themselves. The BB isn't there when these older women were expecting to settle for him. Most humorous is when these women try to shame men about this state of affairs. lol
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:10 PM
1

And that's what women doing it will say. I've gotten that feedback when I've gone to places like thoughtcatalog.com and proposed a more traditional approach. But in many cases, I think they are fooling themselves if anyone. Once they are alone with their cats, are they really going to admit they should have settled down with that geeky good guy who wanted them so much when they were 22?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 04:07 PM
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So now that men have a strategy that can beat the AFBB women's strategy, we're supposed to call the game off? I don't think so. Anyway, men will fix society by their strategy. Girls will dread the wall soon enough to get a man while still fertile and fairly chaste. This will accelerate a while as girls experience unexpected competition at age 25 (from other girls doing the same adjustment) and try to pair up at age 22, etc.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 03:49 PM
1

And more and more, BB are declining to provide. Cats wil proliferate.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 03:32 PM
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The BB are here, reading about this arrangement, and making other plans as we speak. Seriously. Women should not expect to have a BB waiting for her when she's had 10 years of other men. That BB has a whole world of women to look to, most of whom think American "beta" men are pretty damned dreamy.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 03:30 PM
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I sort of disagree. I think we men will fix this by restoring the patriarchy. And the way we will do that is to start acting like patriarchs!
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 03:23 PM
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The way we'll fix our social norms is simple and, I think, very red-pill. Never, never, never get involved with a single mom. Be sure to wrap securely. Avoid graduates of the CC. Date young girls or those who, perhaps through being social outcasts, are not heavily used. A plain, smart girl is a good wife. A hot, smart girl is also a good wife. Foreigners are fine and are subject to the same criteria. The almost ridiculous difference in how easy it is to find a good potential wife, foreign vs. do…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 03:09 PM
1

Women should find a guy when they are young and settle down. If they don't, they'll be enjoyed on the cock carousel and nobody (certainly not their friends) will tell them they are just making themselves old and undesirable for marriage. They'll pass the Wall and not even know it. All they'll detect is even less desire for commitment from guys, but they'll still get ONS for a few years, then that will tail off. And then they will be out of options. At least if guys have any smarts. And guys are …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:56 PM
1

This is true. But this is also why we don't care what women want in this regard.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:54 PM
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If this were true, there wouldn't be much reason to read this sub. Our stuff would just confirm there isn't much a guy can do to change his results. But that's not the case. Women are nowhere near that rational. Exploit that fact. You're practically pedestaizing them, to think they act so rationally and reasonably. It's nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:52 PM
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Yes it does. The repeated release of post-sex oxytocin, with a variety of different men, leads eventually to a state where the she overcomes the bonding that it causes. Hence she'll maybe never bond to her later lovers, as she did to those earlier guys who pumped and dumped her / rode the "carousel" with her.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:35 PM
1

No, in the early stage, the beta stuff doesn't matter. She will be repelled by the beta you project. Her programming doesn't know that times are changed. She wants to see you as high value, as attractive to other girls, she wants to be sexually attracted. Period. The beta stuff is for after you're married with kids. Kids are a gigantic project, and they'll cause your wife's sexual attraction to you to go down anyway as the energy is diverted into maternal love for the kids (and none for you btw.…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:24 PM
1

Fair enough, so we can beat the system. And that's how we do it. Problem solved.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:14 PM
1

Friend, you too can act alpha and I don't even know what you look like. Just lose the beta cues. It works for me. I walk into a room and women notice. I am under 5'6" and overweight. I used to be 5'6" but as one gets older one shrinks a bit. Yes I am not a young man. I also don't know what to do with that attention other than enjoy it, because I am married with kids and have no intention of cheating. We can't run the experiment of seeing how I would do if I were 6 feet tall. We can try different…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 02:11 PM
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"The women who understand how female attraction works go on to write romance novels and make easy bank selling simple female fantasy tropes." Yes, but I remember a few years ago it was hypothesized that some frequent bestselling author of those stories was actually using a computer program to write them. They are so formulaic. And since it is an algorithm, we can discuss it here on TRP.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 01:48 PM
4

Did unicorn know about the 2:2 when she decided to vanish?
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:34 AM
1

So there's no "should" regarding pump and dump, or TRP, just messy human realities.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:11 PM
1

Speaking of partnership, which is a business and financial arrangement: which of them has more money and more income? This is the only partnership where she can put down 20% of the total capital and have at least 50% ownership.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:10 PM
1

Problem is, the facts are against her. And women are not that great at verbal creativity, we see through her immediately.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:09 PM
1

How is it tragic? Simply avoid those people, or at most pump and dump them. Not my problem, really. A tragedy is children being killed, people killed in war, etc. not some left wingers disliking and hamstering over a subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:06 PM
1

Do I care what she thinks? Oddly, no. I guess there are some people who automatically care what someone like that thinks. I have never been one of them. Even as a child, when my mother was so interested in the opinions of movie stars, I asked her why she cared about the opinions expressed by people who were paid to pretend to be someone else?
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:04 PM
1

Child support without significant custody would really suck. I can't blame a man for seeking to avoid it. The best way to avoid it is to game your wife so she stays on the ranch. Expect it of her. Alpha up.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:02 PM
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As far as I am concerned, they can "wallow" as long as they want. That doesn't bother me at all, it's their group too. They are honest, they are into self improvement at the stage they are at. And their stories can help the next wave after them to relate. If the PC types don't like it, they can click on another sub.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:00 PM
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The only problem I have with the sub right now is the flood of white-knight trolls. I suspect it's an organized attack. Saying things like "the essence of TRP is self improvement and lifting" and "alpha males are the tall muscular handsome ones with good bone structure in their face". Neither of those statements is true, and it's only in the past few weeks I've seen such posts with any frequency.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:56 PM
1

Yes it is instinct. So one could say that we should not blame women for it. It's not just conscious strategy, it's their programming. But then I've found that TRP is very instinctual once I discovered my inner alpha, and all I had to do for that was to drill through the programming I had received. So women shouldn't object when I "am being myself" like that. Instinctually I surely don't want to raise another man's children. Instinct is more like to kill them if I were to take over that woman. Bu…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:53 PM
1

So TRP is the art of tapping into that supply while it's fresh and most desirable. Makes a lot more sense than all men trying to look like anatomy charts.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:46 PM
1

Men can change their quality pretty readily. A lot of it is just alpha attitude = losing the beta cues. That makes you come across as a self confident, high value man. If she starts asking the size of your bank account, do two things smoothly: (1) write her off as anything but pump and dump. She's looking for betabux, so time to play and win! (2) lie. She is not entitled to know this information, she is not entitled to know that you are not revealing true information. She should not have asked. …
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:30 PM
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Heh yes plenty of inhabitants of jezebel.com and thoughtcatalog.com hate it when I say people should avoid single moms. Because some of them probably are. This single step, stigmatizing of single moms, would do a lot to end the AFBB option for women. Once they have kids with a man, they have to stay with that man or not have a man at all.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:23 PM
4

Wow that's cold. Never touch single moms.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:06 PM
2

Princeton Mom advocates the girls lock down their husbands by their early 20's, as undergrads. Or at least make the connection. There's nothing wrong with playing to win. Both men and women have to look out for their own interests, until they are married (and especially parents) and the interests should merge. Ideally that is. The strategy you describe makes a lot of sense. But if you're a Princeton man, with all those promising young women around, there's no reason not to go along with the Prin…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:02 PM
1

That's not my view of TRP. It's not just about getting better, it's also about using whatever you have, as it is, to gain more of what you want. All this stuff about getting better would make the feminists quite happy. Imagine the whole lonely dating age population of men going off to gyms to work their asses off, to get better looking for the women? Sounds like THEIR sexual strategy with us doing the work! White knight behavior, pedestaling them by doing so much work for them. (Hey, if you like…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:53 PM
2

So to Asian girls, just being white makes them think "alpha"? But Asians frequently prefer white features. Eyelid surgery, various hair colors that aren't black, etc. As a white guy, it seems easier to guess that it's just considered more attractive, not necessarily more alpha. They're not just going for "primal". As described in this thread by a black contributor, a black would be considered even more primal. And they avoid blacks. An Asian girl is far less likely to date a black man than a whi…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:49 PM
1

I am certainly not saying that Asian men aren't frequently sexy to women. It just seems to me that knowing family etiquette on the superficial level described in the article, that could be explained in a half-hour briefing with occasional reminders 'til he gets the hang of it, is not a really good reason to prefer an Asian guy over a white guy. For Chinese, I am surprised that language isn't a bigger issue. It's very hard for a foreigner to learn any of the versions of Chinese and most whites wo…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:02 PM
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It's not that they don't understand. They know. And they use it. But hooboy if men find some sexual strategy that uses aspects of female psychology and physiology, they don't like that at all. OK they don't like it, good.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:43 PM
2

Yeah, I think that redpill attitude is an essentially male thing. I am not surprised that a lesbian would know lots of strategy but not relate to the attitude.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:29 PM
7

Truth here. Speaking of language let me propose a couple of my own definitions: Alpha = the absence of beta cues. Doesn't require muscles, height, a strong jawline, those are neither necessary nor sufficient. It's attitude. It's the guy who is "out of the closet": see the next definition. Identify your beta and move away from it, firmly. I had a strong mother too, and she didn't give me all the best answers either, though I think she did her best. It was up to me to move on from there. Coming ou…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:25 PM
5

The justifications for going same-race given in the article are mighty weak. I guess OP has the more likely explanation. But a fair number of these chicks lock down that white beta. These are the ones that the betas, typically marriage minded, didn't decide to keep. That's a pretty good reason for Asian immigrant guys (including Indians) to consider going to their home country to bring out a younger woman. From what I've observed, they have very good market value in their home countries doing th…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:13 PM
14

Yes, once he gets out of med school he will have many other options. He may have silently downgraded her to a future-plate in his mind or at least is considering his options and doesn't want to react in haste. His reaction was optimal to lock her down temporarily. He has a high IQ and good self control to be where he's at. You've got a winner in Roo, congrats!
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:02 PM
5

Heh if that's the best she can come up, we have confirmation that not only are they following AFBB, they know it, and they know it's a strategy. Her husband is a partner because now the best she can get is a partner. Would any such "partner" be eligible if he had less assets or earning capacity than she does?
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 03:08 PM
4

Oh yes she would. They are very selfish.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 03:05 PM
0

Here's RP in a nutshell. Penetrate the conditioning to make everything about her. Meet that inner guy with guy desires. Don't worry, he's hiding in there. Let that guy be in charge. This is the true meaning of "being yourself".
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 02:59 PM
3

Well done, esp. getting out without paying her debt.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 02:36 PM
0

He loses frame. Ouch. But it seems more like he should be suing her for sexual harassment. His stuff is no worse than hers. Such a great guy, going all out for this little bitch, sad.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:12 AM
3

So is there an official university sanctioned answer?
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 08:58 AM
13

Picky, dried-up, 35 year-old, ex-party girls are extremely threatened by this. It's all about keeping up the supply of betabux. They're counting on those men to be there, chivalrously, to rescue them after they've found themselves.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 08:51 AM
2

Thank you for identifying the real red pill. It's been harder to find recently, with what looks like an intentional flood of white knight trolls. It's hard work keeping that influence in check when, as I suspect, an outside group has decided to "clean us up" and sanitize this place of what makes it great. I appreciate your doing this work and standing firmly in place.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 08:48 AM
0

They don't want you to get laid. That sex you had with the girls was unfair to the girls (if you ask them). Of course that's ridiculous. Women use a sexual strategy, isn't that what AFBB is? What about all the miserable betas, aren't they suffering from abuse? The post just complains that perhaps our strategy can trump their strategy. It's marginally OK if we can reduce the effectiveness of their strategy or "call them out" on it. But no no no we're never supposed to quietly defeat their strateg…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 03:38 AM
-2

"And as long as you keep that power dynamic active, you will never know what love is. Because love means that you feel what your lover feels." Bullshit. I know what love is. I had it for the first five years of my marriage. This experience is extremely common and discussed here. And therefore, I know what love isn't. When love isn't there, yes it's down to brass tacks and what works. Because I am capable of greater power and am worthy of it. Because I am less likely to frivorce her. And so on.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 02:49 AM
1

Glad to hear someone else agrees with my opinion of MMSL. A bit white knightish if I remember, frankly I only stayed briefly and that was some time ago so I don't claim that my representation is accurate, only that I felt annoyed and went elsewhere.
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/14 03:29 AM
0

I believe some Obamanoids are trying to make such "sex tourism" a crime, or maybe it already is, and to set up more surveillance and tracking of visas and such. If you want to go to Pattaya which is famous for sex tourism, just book a ticket to Bangkok and then on the ground there, find a plane over to Pattaya, best to pay for it with cash I suppose, or ride a bus.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:17 AM
0

In the old days guys got girls drunk and they went and had sex. But it wasn't called rape even if the girl later had regrets.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:13 AM
2

Wrong. A lot of women apparently set height minimums and don't even see profiles below that.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:09 AM
2

Try another experiment, change the height to 6 foot 2. I bet that two inches will make a difference. I am a lot shorter than that too, but would still be interested to hear if I am right about this.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:08 AM
-2

Yes, well if he doesn't have enough plates, he can spin her as a plate while she thinks he's betabux. If he wants to keep that straight. After what she's done he should never offer her exclusivity. But she doesn't have to know that right now.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:05 AM
13

"Serenade"'s hamstering is classic. She's pure AFBB and defends it, and just can't deal with "asiandocta" wanting a girl who considers him sexually desirable and hot. I suggest asiandocta forget marriage for the time being and just focus on game and racking up his count. He's in position to do so. And he'll eventually stumble on a chick that's different, relates to him differently, that's special. That's a relationship that at least has a chance, for a while, of being worth hanging onto.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:52 AM
4

Very good points, with or without the biblio. The bride at OP's ceremony probably wrote the vows to be "meaningful" to her, thus stripping out all the requirements and putting a lot on the guy. And of course none of it's legally binding anyway, especially in a no-fault state. There's no point to inviting all those guests if none of them is able to force the couple to obey its vows. You have a big event and spend the downpayment on a house (thus creating preconditions for the failure of that marr…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:35 AM
5

And also, that they cannot do the same over in foreign countries. When American women go there, they do not get a line of men waiting to meet them and marry them. Quite the opposite. American men get this treatment because we have a great reputation internationally. American women, for obvious reasons, have a bad reputation. We are wasted on American women. That is why we do better with foreign women so often. This thought of exposure to the international market makes them uncomfortable. Yes of …
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 01:03 AM
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