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| 1 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?I got it from another actual dictionary, I wasn't just making it up. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/14 01:16 PM |
| -2 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?I know what a venn diagram is, thank you. I just do not comprehend at all what your point is in using one, other than that men and women HAVE different traits in the first place. Which, duh. Here is a really, really important point: women ALSO get shit for being feminine. It holds us back from garnering the same amount of respect, power, all of that. We're overemotional harpies who can't think straight for five days a month. People cite our FEMININE traits as reasons that we are unintelligent, u… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/14 04:19 AM |
| -1 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.And you're not listening to me. I don't owe it to you or anyone to post equal amounts the accomplishments, because as a non-scientist, I don't particularly have anything to add to that discussion other than "COOL." Not that you know what I do on websites other than Reddit, which is why I'm harping on your point about my posting history showing both my behavior and level of intellect. I'm not stupid, but you are condescending and I have not enjoyed parlaying with you. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/14 04:03 AM |
| -2 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.How does my behavior speak louder than my words when you have only read my words? What do you see my behavior? Are you watching me? Are there cameras I should know about? It is not relevant that I spend the same amount of time talking about this guy's accomplishments and the shirt, because I chose to talk about one of them, right here right now. That is not indicative of how much I have read about the mission, how much I've discussed it with my friends (which you cannot magically tell from readi… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 08:10 PM |
| -3 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?And I also include the dislike of and prejudice against women. It's semantics, really, though I resent that I am apparently "just wrong." Different dictionaries, different uses in different contexts. I agree with your point about anti-abortion advocates who sincerely believe abortion to be murder. It's why it's one of my least favorite arguments to get into, because both sides come from such different places. I do believe that they are severely misguided, however, and do not hesitate to call man… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 07:52 PM |
| -2 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?We obviously have very different definitions of misogyny. Definitions that will make each other very angry. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Does Sexism affect men? A positive feminist outlook for a change.I feel ya. But I still urge you to not put likability and respectability on the same level, as if they were more or less equal. However you may feel about them, one translates into power, the other translates into being married to power and smiling for all the pictures next to power. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:57 PM |
| -1 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.And I'm sure it feels like those "stereotypes" are really holding you back when you spend all your time circlejerkin' it on /r/MensRights. Go fly a kite. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:47 PM |
| -5 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.I post in a blue fucking moon when I'm not getting myself in trouble in men's rights subreddits, but I'm glad you took the time to really get to know me. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Does Sexism affect men? A positive feminist outlook for a change.See, I don't feel proud of the fact that women are more likable than men. All that says to me is that we've been trained to be pliant and accommodating and deferential. Can I trade my "likability" for 50% of the seats in the Senate, House, and Supreme Court? For 50% of the leading roles in Hollywood films? For 50% of the SUPPORTING roles in Hollywood films? Jobs on teams that send rockets to comets, presidential candidates, CEOs, I could go on? Women may be better liked, but men are better respe… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:20 PM |
| -1 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.You don't know me! You don't know what I talk about when I am not in this exact spot at this moment on the internet! I can't predict the future but I know that the internet has an attention span a few pixels wide. No one will give a shit about this in a week, let alone the Distant Future. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 06:10 PM |
| -2 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.No, they don't. But I can only really speak for myself, I guess. And here's what I have to say: yeah, I am fine with telling men to stop behaviors that make me uncomfortable, that make me feel unsafe, that make me feel like less of a person. But other than that I would really like you to go do whatever your little man heart desires, whether it is land a rocket on a comet or stay at home with your kids or eat cheetos in your undies all day. Please afford me the same courtesy. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:59 PM |
| -1 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?You're right! I'm rusty on my rhetorical definitions. But I feel like when you get called a misogynist you should assume they are also calling your argument misogynistic--which arguments can be. Not so much in your example, in which Person B is obviously a loon. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Does Sexism affect men? A positive feminist outlook for a change.The thing is that women also face sexism for displaying feminine traits. You know, that whole idea of "I could never vote for a woman because she gets her period and that makes her crazy!" Feminine girls are seen as shallow, unintelligent, over-emotional. The things that they tend to enjoy are not taken seriously. She is seen as vain, even though she is expected to put effort into her appearance to be taken seriously. So yeah, all the things you said about masculine women are true. But don't thi… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Does Sexism affect men? A positive feminist outlook for a change.The things that Men's Right Activists fight for are in MANY cases things that feminists are (or should be) fighting for as well. It's a great irony that the two camps have become so polarized over the internet. Feminists want it to be okay for men to cry, because we also want our emotions to be taken seriously and not deem us incapable. We want it to be okay for men to be homemakers, not only so that more women can be breadwinners while the men stay home, but also because we want to be taken ser… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 05:18 PM |
| -3 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?If the argument involves women, calling someone misogynist is not irrelevant. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:53 PM |
| -5 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.I was directing that last quote, about listening, more towards the commenter above me, in reference to what I took as some general statements about feminism. I'm really not overly critical of Dr. Taylor. I absolutely believe he feels bad now and is generally a good guy. I'm not assuming that he does not listen to his female co-workers, or that he put too much thought into the wearing of this shirt. I'm not all that concerned with ranking who should be more at fault here. The shirt was in bad tas… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:37 PM |
| -6 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.Why do people owe that to society? They are two different issues, on two different scales. The Phimae landing is a monumental achievement for science. The shirt is a small sexism drop in the big sexism ocean. I can still discuss the second without constantly bringing up the first. It also doesn't mean I think think the first is unimportant, or that I disrespect Dr. Taylor. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:20 PM |
| -6 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.I'm really sorry about that, that sounds awful and was definitely harassment. I don't want all the victimization, thank you. I just want women to have a non-sexualized place in this world. I do not think that Dr. Taylor's shirt should be the main battleground for that, at all. It's just a drop in the bucket, and in the end, I don't really give that much of a shit about it specifically. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 04:09 PM |
| -4 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.I'm not attacking either one of them. I knew it was made by a woman. I disagree with the designer's choice as much as Dr. Taylor's decision to wear it. This obviously would not have been a big deal if the shirt had stayed in their office (lab?), and that's okay. But science is not the most friendly place for women, and it objectively sucks that this was the image that the Phimae team ended up showing the world, whoever's fault it was. Also: yeah, you should listen to women on women's issues. It … | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 03:54 PM |
| -18 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.It was not an appropriate place for sexualized images of women. Or anyone, but that shirt sure didn't have the guys from Magic Mike on it. Women just want to be people, man. Seeing your gender constantly reduced to attractiveness and sexuality is so tiring. But you've never really had to worry about that, have you? | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 03:29 PM |
| 3 | Does Sexism affect men? A positive feminist outlook for a change.Sexism against men and sexism against women come from a place of belittling the same kind of traits--feminine traits. It's restrictive for men and it's restrictive for women, in different ways. Taking down sexism against men helps women, and taking down sexism against women helps men. It's not a zero sum gain. I'm sorry that "we should stop sexism against women" sounds like such a terrible prospect for you, please go call your mother. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 03:07 PM |
| -5 | With so many subscribers here having previously identified as feminists, why do so many others assume that feminists are impossible to educate?Calling someone a misogynist is not ad hominem if it's true. Then it's just a statement. Here's another statement: Your comment is super condescending! | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 02:42 PM |
| -13 | What Dr. Matt Taylor would be known for in a world without radical feminism.And he will be. Chill. The extreme wing of SJ tumblr is not the "world." Most feminists are able to separate these two facts: 1. this is a man who has contributed enormously to science and the human race; and 2. he wore a shirt that is in bad taste. Not condoning 2 does not take away from 1. And you know, he apologized. THIS feminist accepts his apology and is ready to move on and drop the subject, and many others are too. Honest. You can like/admire/love someone and still critique them. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/14 02:36 PM |
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