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super_thowaway/r/seduction18/11/17 05:05 AM
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super_thowaway/r/seduction08/05/18 06:57 AM
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You think your problem is with women, but ask yourself, is it really that you don't interact with women, or is it that you don't interact with anyone? Women can be found where men are. It's very typical that men become isolated socially and then start wondering where all the women went. I am willing to bet that your problem is not women specifically but instead a lack of socializing with humans of any gender. Women are not waiting around for you to get your own place or to buy a car. Those thing…
/r/seduction27/10/18 09:08 PM
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It's less about treating women nicely or badly, rather just treat them as human. As others have noted, guys who consider themselves nice often are not. There is often a subtext of manipulation to their 'nice' behaviors. Being nice is a good thing, you should want to do things for people. But what most people need is not a door being opened for them, or a white knight rescuing them when they didn't need it, or showering them with gifts, or giving them nothing but shallow praise. They need someone…
/r/seduction15/08/18 08:58 PM
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The rule of thumb in conversation is trying to get people to talk about themselves. You want your questions to trigger them to tell a story or go off on a long tangent rather than asking questions that are likely to get short responses. When you feel like you've struck out a few times and the questions are starting make it feel like an interview, switch to telling stories about yourself. As you tell your stories ask small questions which gives her the opportunity to jump in but don't stop your s…
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:59 AM
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Talk to all women, especially ones you're not attracted to. Talk to men too. Get involved in some social activities. You need to socialize yourself more and you can do that by interacting with more people without worrying about expectations. Worry more about improving yourself, and less about that particular girl.
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:52 AM
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I'm actually kinda impressed by the other comments. I use plenty of online dating and have had massively long text conversations with people I've never even met. I've mastered the ability to ride the fine line between seriousness, playfulness, innocence, and sexual escalation without really thinking about it. But ya know what, I wonder if it's a useless even counter-productive skill to acquire. At the end of the day, women date real life people. The type of wit you build via text is different th…
/r/seduction10/05/18 06:45 AM
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Conversation 1 isn't interesting. Conversation 2 is too forward. When you speak in ways like "Babe, I can send you memes all day all night", you should do so in a joking manor by making sure to talk like a normal human most of the time. If you speak purely this way, you look like you actually communicate that way, which is not attractive. An improvement to #1 would be to make fun of her town or of your town. If her town is the better down and everyone knows it, pretend like the world is opposite…
/r/seduction09/05/18 03:52 AM
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General confidence helps you learn how to get women. General confidence helps you learn how to fly an airplane. However, general confidence won't help you fly the plane. You need to actually learn to fly.
/r/seduction09/05/18 02:14 AM
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Yep. I like to think of our inner narrative as our ongoing movie about ourselves. We're watching our own biographical movie all day and think everyone else is too. NO, they're watching theirs! You are a minor background actor in their movie. You aren't even a star. So it kinda doesn't matter how well you act since your part is so small. You'll get better every day and be given bigger parts if you shine, if you want them.
/r/seduction08/05/18 08:33 AM
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Hi Fred, as you can tell, the experience level here works better for school kids than for grownups. As someone in my 30's who's had a fair number of dates with women of all ages, some older than you, I can try to offer some advice. First, it's great that you are taking such good care of yourself in the aftermath of such a difficult event. Really, give yourself a big hug and a pat on the back. Online dating culture is something that has changed soo much and so rapidly. What was acceptable and att…
/r/seduction08/05/18 08:18 AM
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One misconception is that we are static personalities, that we have a 'true self' and that to change ourselves is to also betray ourselves. The facts are that we all change over time. We all are products of our upbringings. We all have aspects we like about ourselves and dislike about ourselves. Changing who you are isn't about censoring yourself or hiding your true identity. It's also not about turning into something you don't want to be or being inauthentic. You can be you, and you can change,…
/r/seduction08/05/18 07:58 AM
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It sounds to me like you have difficulty reading peoples' social cues. Any social situation requires you to read peoples reactions to your words and behaviors, and feed that back into your next set of behaviors. In the case with your friend, it is clear that you didn't feed any of that information into your behavior, which is likely due to having difficulty reading that information. I don't mean this in a pejorative way at all, but do you have aspergers or any other conditions which affect your …
/r/seduction08/05/18 07:48 AM
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A good thing to remember is that people only know you from what you communicate outwardly. They don't know you from the inside. So ponder for a minute about the kind of person other people think you are. They see your body, your hygiene, your clothing, your body language, your voice, and your thoughts only as your words convey. Maybe there is a mismatch of your internal image of yourself and what you are communicating to people. Another thing to think about is being a good person and being an in…
/r/seduction08/05/18 07:35 AM
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Just be a human. Humans talk to other humans.
/r/seduction07/05/18 06:18 AM
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You didn't fail. You just didn't get the optimal outcome.
/r/seduction10/04/18 04:48 AM
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They don't need to know until after, it's not any of their business. It's not virginity itself that they will judge, it actually could be a positive in context, but without context it will cause them to assume other women have avoided you for a reason. Either way, women aren't trying to crack the case whether you are or are not. So don't feel as if they are investigating your sexual history and trying to get you to slip up. They are not. Also, there's no real big secret you're not in on about se…
/r/seduction10/04/18 03:42 AM
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A lot of men think they have a problem meeting women, when in fact they actually have a problem meeting people in general. When you have a small social circle it means you have few opportunities to meet new people. It's also a red flag (no social proof).
/r/seduction10/04/18 03:15 AM
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Communicating interested is something that permeates the entire interaction rather than at some escalation point. The bind you're getting into is when you haven't been showing interest all along and decide you need to, how do you go from 0-60? That is hard indeed. Worry less about the later interactions where it sexually escalates and more about the earlier interactions where you're signalling interests. Signalling interest is a show of confidence whereas hiding it is seen as weak. It is also mu…
/r/seduction15/03/18 07:15 AM
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Some will say this is a weak response but you can start with "the reservation is for two." Which she should be able to figure out, and if she doesn't then go for the direct method.
/r/seduction15/03/18 07:03 AM
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Add: Do use double entendres. Do use self-deprecation. Do feel the audience. Do take a step back - ie. gauge response.
/r/seduction14/03/18 11:51 PM
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Indeed. Which is a bit frustrating when people do not say their age here. We have 13 year olds and 43 year olds here. Advice will be very different, but people seem to think it's not relevant to say what life stage they're in.
/r/seduction08/03/18 06:47 AM
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As to looking creepy if you make a move and he isn't interested... I get approached by women I'm not interested in somewhat regularly. In bars, clubs, and in class when I was in college. Most are moderately attractive just not my type, others are homely, some very attractive. Either way it always has the same affect on me regardless... it feels good. Its a good stroke to my ego and confidence one way or another. The only bad part is shutting them down without embarrassing them or hurting them. W…
/r/seduction07/03/18 09:45 AM
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Most people meet their mates through friends. You need to grow your social circle and make new friendships.
/r/seduction07/03/18 09:30 AM
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Mate - not actually by Tucker Max, but by the PhD. Very very engaging and it connects everything in dating back to its evolutionary purpose.
/r/seduction07/03/18 09:26 AM
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This awkwardness you're feeling will be the memory you savor when you're older rather than the sex. You'll be fine, you'll figure it out as you go. :)
/r/seduction07/03/18 09:18 AM
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Heya Buddy. Firstly, 22 leaves you with plenty of time to figure this out, now that it is a priority to you. Second, the real life adult world isn't high school or even college. Your social status is judged by different metrics as you get older. I too was bullied, taunted, and was always on the edge of my friend group rather than in the middle. Your depression should be your number one priority. It is a circular problem that is both a product of and a cause of your other concerns. I recommend th…
/r/seduction07/03/18 09:02 AM
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I'd steer clear still. A loud environment like a bar can help fill the awkwardly silent air with some ambient noise. Conversationally, just remember that women are just people too so you can talk about most anything you'd normally talk about. Politics, news, music, movies, trips, funny stories from childhood. You only need seeds of conversations to get them started, you can bring random things up till you find something they're excited to talk about. Most people like to talk about themselves, so…
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:39 AM
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Anything you think is relevant. Not sure what you're looking for, if you're genuinely interested in guidance, people will give it. But I suspect you might just be looking to validate your possibly defeated attitude. Questions that would help us help you... How old are you? What is your station in life (school, job, living situation)? What is your level of dating experience? What are your goals? What do you perceive as your shortcomings? Is there a particular situation you're trying to navigate? …
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:27 AM
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Movies are bad early dates. You sit quietly facing away from each other in a place where you cant talk. A bar or your house is a much better choice. If hooking up is your intent, let her make the choice. Say "Hey! I'm gonna watch one of the Oscar winners tonight and pig out on wine and junk food - wanna join? We could grab a drink at O'Malley's too."
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:19 AM
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The easy answer is "because you haven't asked." Tell us more about yourself for tailored advice.
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:10 AM
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Regarding your first statement, I'll beg to differ a bit. Here's how I believe mating decisions work: Does this person look physically healthy and attractive enough to mate with? Yes... After a few minutes, hours, or days of interacting with this person, do they have any apparent mental or emotional problems that eliminate this person from being a potential mate? No... Sex Repeat step 2 Do I enjoy this person after a longer period of knowing them? Yes? Relationship Whether looking for a relation…
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:04 AM
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Escalation comes in multiple forms. Don't underestimate the power that a woman feeling secure in your arms or resting her head on you has. A male plays multiple roles, a mate is one, comfort and security is another. I don't see any missteps in the situation, just lack of optimization and efficiency, which is less important.
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:50 AM
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It is and it isn't. Each person has a different set of expectations at different times. I think showing interest isn't as critical in an online date since that's somewhat established already - somewhat. Escalation is something that is learned from experience. A road you need to travel down to learn till it becomes automatic. Kissing isn't something you sneak up on her with or you throw at her. Instead you're signalling your intent to, opening an opportunity for her to accept it, then moving in. …
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:42 AM
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Close. But I'd say negotiating these things is silly in light of the fact that they're having sex. You don't need a road map of the relationship up front. People vote with their feet. If she spends a lot of time with him in the near future while also sleeping with him, that's a defacto relationship. People also like to date laterally or date up. He's put himself in a position where she views him to be of lower value. He's worried to mess it up with her, but I doubt she's worried the other way ar…
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:20 AM
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Here's what you should have as a minimum: An Instagram account with ~5-10 pics that put a positive light on your appearance, status, and activities. Reason? Women you meet in real life will go to Instagram to scope you out, show their friends, etc. Beyond that, you don't need to actively use it.
/r/seduction19/02/18 04:04 AM
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Read MATE. I've ready it 4 times and have given to many friends and co-workers. I was well on my way by the time I read it, but it is life changing. The book is about being someone who women want by being someone you want to be. Don't let the author turn you off, it is actually not written by Tucker Max, it is written by Geoffrey Miller, PhD. It is beautifully written and is one of those books that is a delicious read, like Freakonomics or anything by Malcolm Gladwell. The book's focus is about …
/r/seduction18/02/18 08:26 AM
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Good question. I think number 3 is connected to this. By moving in at a speed that she can slowly and subtly move her lips out of the way, it helps her make it look like she was planning on moving her head anyways. A girl doesn't want to have to put her hands on your face and say "no I don't want to kiss you", she'd rather pretend it didn't happen.
/r/seduction24/11/17 04:17 AM
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I'd say your score doesn't indicate a big problem.
/r/seduction20/11/17 06:23 AM
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I definitely agree with the checklist. I'd also like to say that these are things people should just do for their own sake too. Why have a messy house? You have to live in it! Having a clean kitchen, a bed that's made, laundry all in a basket, trash all in a can, a vacuumed floor, and a sanitary toilet will make you live a better life. You'll never have to panic when someone is coming over.
/r/seduction20/11/17 06:14 AM
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Experience and confidence. A few tricks I can think of... Put your hand/fingers on her chin or cheek. If she lets them stay, then she may be receptive. Try to hold her fingers (less than full hand). If she holds on, she might be receptive. Keep long eye contact, smirk, slowly move forward. The kiss can be a surprise, but it shouldn't be a surprise attack. Always give her an out. Do it in a way she can dodge it without feeling like she's shut you down. A failed attempt isn't the end. She's just n…
/r/seduction20/11/17 05:32 AM
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Live and learn, 22 is young. The mind games aren't intentional, it's just sorta how humans end up interacting. The most important thing is to not let it bring you down, it's not personal. :)
/r/seduction19/11/17 03:36 AM
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I said I feel average.
/r/seduction19/11/17 03:19 AM
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Things I've noticed: People's age and life stage is often omitted. Advice for a kid in 9th grade is going to be a lot different than for a guy who's 29. The focus is on tips 'n tricks rather than self-improvement. A lot of asking for quick fixes while sweeping everything else under the rug. It's quite clear here that a lot of people suffer from depression, social anxiety, body dysmorphia, and other issues. The tips 'n tricks in my view are optimizations for people who already have taken care of …
/r/seduction19/11/17 02:37 AM
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I've been on jeez, 300+ first dates. I would say that in nearly every date the two of us are able to build a raport, have witty banter, sip on some cocktails and have a good time. However, no matter how good of a time we had, I never take it for granted that "she's fully into me." The number of factors that go into selecting a mate is pretty high and there are some arbitrary factors. So she might have a good time with you and decide it isn't right for one reason or another. Hell, I often know wi…
/r/seduction19/11/17 01:48 AM
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Advice here is intended to help you connect with women, not a specific woman. If you want to get her back, just contact her and ask for her back. Get the answer then move on.
/r/seduction19/11/17 01:39 AM
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I'm a raver and recently gave someone very important to me a candy bracelet. It meant the world to her and she wears in frequently. I gave it to her in the context of a concert and she was rolling for the first time. I brought it for this exchange, one for her friend too, and gave it to her with the proper ritual. PLUR. However, if I had just handed it to her without all that context, I doubt it would have meant much and would have seemed weird.
/r/seduction18/11/17 04:35 AM
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Good news: you're not jealous, you're envious! That's my pedantic answer. Social media is part of it. Use it as much as is needed to help you be social and stay in touch, but otherwise it's unhealthy and causes all sorts of problems (addiction to social media, unrealistic expectations, jealousy, envy). Breaking into tight knit groups is difficult, but look for new approaches. The best way to feel better is to feel like you're making progress in your goals.
/r/seduction18/11/17 04:28 AM
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Mate - Don't let the author or cover fool you. It's a serious book and actually written by the co-author. It looks at the evolutionary biology behind what women want and what men do. Before trying to figure out how to woo women, it helps to understand the differences in their motivations, needs, worries, and pressures. https://www.amazon.com/Mate-Become-Man-Women-Want/dp/0316375365
/r/seduction05/11/17 08:29 AM
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First off, good job on taking this on multiple fronts. Bars and clubs are a different experience, and while I've spent plenty of time in them with success, I think they are over-stressed as a place to pick up women. They are great places for facing and overcoming rejection and approach anxiety, but you're already doing a good job at that. How is your platonic social life? Often men who suffer depression and find it hard to meet women are socially isolated. Having as many friends of both genders …
/r/seduction05/11/17 05:26 AM
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Common mistake. You should be talking and interacting, that's when a girl will become interested in you. Unless you are Ryan Gosling it is unlikely a girl is interested in you from the fleeting eye contact you make when passing each other. Interact with her, interact with her again, and again, then ask yourself the same question.
/r/seduction05/11/17 05:12 AM
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Yes it is oneitis. The best strategy is to let #1 fall apart(likely), let #2 do his thing, and look elsewhere. Remove the pressure from this situation and focus on excelling in school and finding time for expanding your social situation so you can meet more women. Nothing is hopeless, but your focus should always stay wide until you're dating the girl.
/r/seduction05/11/17 04:59 AM
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Social value. Did you have any friends with you at the club? If not, than you have lowered your social value. Were you moving around the dance floor looking side to side for attractive women? That too lowers your social value. Were you having fun, or were you hunting? Dancing is fun, girls want to be part of that fun, if you were in a fun zone but not having fun, your social value was lowered. The 7th girl probably saw a few rejections, again your social value was lowered. A dance floor is a mea…
/r/seduction05/11/17 02:52 AM
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This is a case where I think you can tell them directly that you are interested. You've established that she enjoys your company and feels comfortable around you. She has already given thought to you as a potential mate. She either has interested in you in a mate, but is passive and is waiting for you. Or she is not interested in you as a mate and is unaware that some of the activities she's doing with you such as cuddling are not appropriate to do with someone you aren't interested in. Just tel…
/r/seduction05/11/17 02:41 AM
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Your first paragraph is extremely important. I hope you realize how much of a victory having that mindset is and you should be proud of it. In cognitive therapy they have people do the things they are scared of. This is proven to lessen the feelings and even reverse it. So go snap a selfie right now. Our brains are used to seeing our faces in reverse. A photo is how other people see us, but is backwards to us. The minor assymetries cause us to look different to ourselves and weird us out. But th…
/r/seduction05/11/17 02:26 AM
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She didn't notice one way or another. She's not thinking about you except when you're right in front of her. When you over think about someone you convince yourself that you are as big a part of their universe as they are in yours. Do a hail mary. Failure isn't when a girl says no, it's when you get paralyzed like this. Next time you walk by, say something like "Hey, my buddies and I are having some drinks and burgers for the finale of the Bachelorette, if you'd like to join us... I'm Jacob by t…
/r/seduction05/11/17 02:13 AM
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Expand your social circle. Make more guy friends, make platonic women friends, socialize with your co-workers, join clubs and sports leagues, dance classes, go to professional meetups. It is somewhat interesting that bars and clubs are considered a starting point, since they really are not a good place for people who aren't aggressive and confident.
/r/seduction05/11/17 02:03 AM
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