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These are the only things am comfortable with am afraid. I don't particularly like the idea of BDSM, just like I don't much like the idea of eating squid. If that's your jam, not judging you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:16 PM

I am afraid I can only offer plain ol missionary, vanilla sex. No BDSM. Hmmm... maybe I should make that clear to marriage matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:12 PM

Very few heterosexual cis women like it. Not non existent, but their number will be far less than the number of straight men wanting to penetrate their partner's backdoor. The reason is evident. We don't have prostrates. No organ/gland/nerve can be stimulated there for cis women. We have nothing to gain really from this position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:04 PM
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You don't know why she is single. That's just assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:44 AM
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You think we wouldn't just have sex from hookers and sluts if we had a choice? Why do you even think we are not doing that already even if you were to take us for our word and describe sex as like hunger? It's like eating plain uncooked rice. Tough, not fun, not tasty, and gets irritating real quick. Yeah, it can be a last resort in desperate times (like it is for many men). But that's just not a long-term solution. So you want the GFE or the Girl Friend Experience... Then there are escorts for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:38 PM
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Not a similar comparison. If sex is as necessary as hunger in so many men, why not solicit hookers? Or seek out women who are into hookup? I am sure there are strip clubs and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:04 PM
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Amazing they don't just get it. If she dates for fun, if she agrees to get naughty after 2-3 dates, this indicates a particular attitude to sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:25 AM
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I mean I am actually giving men an actual glimpse of how really low n women think and behave. And I seem to have ruffled quite a few feathers? Beats me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:34 PM
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Most US ppl start dating from 15-16. If they did that then from age 15-24, if they had 3 LTR and slept with only those 3 people... I think that's a fairly tame sexual history if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:31 PM
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Didn't ask or care This was relevant to my point. I don't care that you didn't ask. You are not my employer, so don't expect me to customise my answers for you. OK but your still wrong A matter of opinion. Again, your not my boss, so I don't have to pretend to agree with your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:02 PM
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A low n women, like think 5 or less, will not engage in casual sex. A high n women may also want commitment, but may not always get it , or it is great but not a must for her. So she's okay with fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:59 PM
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Very unreasonable thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:58 PM
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This is 1924 thinking, oh my gosh she isn't principled for wanting to have sex with hot guys Nah, plenty of women who never had sex outside of marriages or LTR, do think like this. I mean how do you think these women kept their n count so less?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:56 PM
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I am a virgin, and my closest friends are either virgin or with very low n count. I come from a culture which discourages casual sex. So, I a just giving you a view on how a truly low n women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:54 PM
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l do believe she wants a LTR but she also wants to have her fun at some point. Then she won't have low n. She will be a high n women into LTR. To high n women of tis type, LTR, is an ideal scenario, but they can do without it. Kinda like someone really likes beef, but they are only getting chicken, so they learn to like chicken. To really low n women, its LTR or nothing. It's not optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:52 PM
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If she sleeps with me after I accept her offer of commitment, then I'm totally fine with it. Cool. Many low n women are actually not asexual lol. Just very circumspect about these matters. You may call her anal about these stuff. But she kept her low n count by being so adamant/anal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:47 PM
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Junk food is a lifestyle choice. Casual sex is also a lifestyle choice. Got it? And how is it "casual" sex if they're also asking for commitment? Most men don't ask for commitment by three dates. C'mon. Not saying those men don't exist, but are likely to be very rare. And if he can offer her commitment at end of three-5 dates? She will sleep with him. You know the concept of buyer's remorse? Low n women have that fear. Of sleeping with a man who will ghost them after.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:42 PM
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think women like that are being totally unreasonable. No they are not. They are making in their mind, a good choice. They want to avoid casual sex, like the fit person wants to avoid junk food.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:38 PM
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Who said anything about asexuality? Good Lord!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:36 PM
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A woman who is ready to break rules, means she is not principled. And if she is says she is breaking rules for you, what's to say, she is breaking it for others too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:34 PM
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I guess he will have to take her at her word lol. If he's fairly attractive and can sense she is into him, yet she turns down to go home with him, and reveals why, no reason not to believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:32 PM
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Well, I won't be suggesting you marry or commit within 6 months if that's not you. But take it from me, it's not a shit test. Really low-n women, who are low-n by choice, will do everything they can to ensure they only have sex within marriage or LTR. That takes dedication. Having a low n count is kinda like being fit. It takes effort to have a slender body, you gotta make good lifestyle choices. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:31 PM
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depending on how conservative she is, she may either ask you to marry her, or wait for some months and commit before sleeping with you. At least that is what I have observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:26 PM
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it's just better to go for the early sex. That way you will prolly miss out on the low n women. Take it from a virgin woman, with low n friends- it takes effort to be genuinely low n. But I guess these women won't be compatible with u anyway. The woman who gives you sex early will most probably be promiscuous, or at least comfortable in the idea of casual sex. Most women with very low n count will do all they can to avoid casual sex. If this means missing out on some men they like, they will ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:24 PM
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Red pill do not dismiss women that sleep after 3 dates as long as she’s low body count and careful who she gave it to. Except, that she is unlikely to have a low n if she puts out by date 3. Truly low n women - think 5 or below, do not have sex unless they have ascertained the guy's commitment. They mostly have 1-3 long LTR relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:14 PM
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If the girl has sex early with any man that catches her fancy, doesn't it mean she is promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:13 PM
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Except am not talking about hookup scene. Many of ya'll don't want to wife/LTR the 'slut', yet have the 3-date or she's out rule
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:12 PM
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Why do you think I will stay even after I made it clear you would not be getting any? I do not understand you. We are not childhood friends, are we? You are just some guy who disregarded my very clear message and wasted your time. Or do you think you are that cute that a woman will "willfully stay"? I thought I had a big head. It seems I have competition. And yes, forgive me for thinking about consent. If you deliberately ignored an important deal breaker and approached anyway, then yes it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:08 PM
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same. My 20s was spent caring for sick parent, focusing on studies and gaining a stable career + my own health issues, which triggered bad eating habits and made me obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:57 PM
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is it? a lot of guys here are resentful over that one hot girl who turned them down in high school/college.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:15 PM
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If someone says in no uncertain terms that they are not open to something, meeting them and bringing that up is foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:04 PM
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Although I have not seen women accepting approaches from men who make less than them Some women have no issue dating men who are in a similar position finance-wise. I earn above average for my country. I have no problem dating a guy who earns as much as me. In fact, I would prefer that. Although it's not much discussed here, dating a guy who out earns you, by a huge margin or comes from generational wealth, creates a huge power imbalance. He holds an enormous trump card. Also opens the ground fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:30 PM
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To the woman who rejected him earlier and is now sending feelers? Most likely yes. To the women he met in his 30s, who likes him? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's no point speculating on whether the woman you met in your successful phase, would have loved you if she met you 10 years back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:25 PM
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You accused me of making a claim I did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:46 AM
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So you basically want men to become emotionless monks who forgive everything? Tell me that you did not read my post without telling me. I swear RP men need to get their eyes checked ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:48 AM
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I do not care about your marriage and sex plans. Even if I say no, you will pester me? That makes you the loser. I am sure you don't think much about consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:48 AM
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I don't wanna talk to men who wants sex? Like what in my post gave you that idea my boy? I make it extra clear in my profile that am waiting for marriage. If some guys ignore that, whose to blame? Certainly not me. They don't get to be angry and say disparaging stuff to me when they discover they can't be the 'exception'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:34 AM
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Your ambitions to have no sex before marriage are irrelevant to us. If she says no/not interested, you will continue to pester her? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:40 AM
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you are replying to my post so....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:39 AM
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''Would have'' is a very poor excuse. I mean, now that I lost weight and put myself out more, many of the better-quality men who have expressed an interest, would probably not have given me the time of the day before. No reason to reject them, at least not due to the fact that I was invisible to them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:28 AM
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Same. No hookups for me. I am a prude. Then again, I am the boring religious woman. No surprises there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:01 PM
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I understand. Ex-fat women are also wary about men who rejected us before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:54 PM
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And, will you be "giving them a chance?" I can understand if you want to bypass them. Many of us women often feel reluctant to date men who ignored us when we were fat/uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:39 PM
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Hmmm, tell that to one of my working-class friends who was ditched by her more well-off bf, who married a girl who was his social match and handpicked by his family. Motivations differ from man to man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:25 PM
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I don't know any Sheikhs. Hookers/sugar babies are a thing. What's so baffling here? They are not committing to them either, are they? Sugaring is a thing. Soft hookers are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:16 PM
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What is my intent? I have never denied I do hate a subset of men. I am not generalising all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:11 PM
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I know many men do string along women and lock them in the forever gf category.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:09 PM
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Don't you? Most men I have known have never committed to someone who is far beneath them in socio-economic status. Then again, men are not a monolith. I will never be dumb to generalise an entire gender (unlike some charming ppl here in the sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:08 PM
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Thanks for generalizing men yet again. If you have the gall to assume I am here to troll or have asked the question in bad faith, then yes, I have the right to conclude that nothing I would say would matter, would it? If you are in a hostile environment, where anything you say will be used against you, then I may take a page out of Rhett Butler's and say, "My dear, I don't give a damn." I may say no, I asked the question in earnestness, not bad faith, but since you doubt me, what's the point? If…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:05 PM
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Any statement or post I made, most RP men assumed I was lying. So, I have given up reasoning with them. If someone thinks you are the Disney Villain, cest la'vie and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:55 PM
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I mean, it's not that you would even think I would mean anything in good faith, coz to you, all women do is lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:51 PM
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if she is cute, I doubt she is a ''fatty''.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:50 PM
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If she's your co-worker at some tech startup, it's safe to say she's at your level at least when it comes to socio-economic standing. The receptionist won't risk her job by hitting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:48 PM
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You will never know heeeheehee :). I have contempt for only a certain subset of men, not all people who are born with XY chromosomes and have a cylinder between their legs. But then I am a woman, so as per RP logic, am most likely lying, and expecting the truth from me is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:46 PM
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No one who goes from zero to hero wants washed up Debra with 3 kids by 5 baby daddies. This I understand. But your cute co-worker or neighbour who likes you, is not at fault that Debra was mean to you back in the summer of 2009.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:43 PM
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We are the homo sapiens. Supposedly at top of the food chain. So consent and such is needed. Male humans can't exactly behave like deranged male cats in heat who chase the female cat by droves, can they? Even if she's finds you attractive, consent is a must, so I guess, some bare minimum effort is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:38 PM
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that's also why some women so badly want a LTR with a playa, other women couldn't lock him but da queen is speciaaal Ask them. Women are not a monolith. We have some bits in common. And a plea to not get raped/killed. Other than that, no two women agrees on any single thing. Of course I can't read minds, but if I guy tells me he has had a very high n count, what makes you think I want anything with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:44 AM
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Virgins can be horny, and tell off entitled men off too. No snivelling pansy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:41 AM
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I never claimed I am. I am not willing to make you my exception, you bugger off, we forget each other's existence. Capiche? Most RP guys here really think a.) either we are lying about being virgins, or b.) if we aren't, they can be the 'exception'. I don't care if you think you have a dick made of diamonds. I don't care if you think you have A+++ rizz. I don't care of you fancy yourself a Greek God. I am sticking to my rules. If your looking to stick it in, off you go. Shoo!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:40 AM
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No, am not a troll. I am a woman. Now you're running around repeating to everyone that you're a virgin and men want a woman like you. It's not me who has claimed this. RP men here over idealise low n count women. IDGAF if you think I am some troll. You are free to think. You are overestimating your importance if you think, I give a frigging damn over your doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:25 AM
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All women are lying? Then all men are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:14 AM
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Most men know, in 99% of cases, when women say this, it’s to simply make herself more of a challenge, to communicate her value indirectly - with the purpose of attracting a provider, while she secretly has had sex with several other men, or continues to do so. Sure, remain deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:09 AM
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and cite peer reviewed research.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:50 AM
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cite research, else you are talking rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:50 AM

the same thing will happen to me. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:16 AM
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. That’s why virgins or low n count is idealised because there is a higher chance the guy would be their ‘best’ and how do you think we stay virgins or low n count? exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:07 AM

if your really ill, or received news that your immediate family member or pet is ill or passed away... sex will be the last thing in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:06 AM

well for me, a nice face, and no baldness trumps height, perfect toned body, and penis size. if you can't even stand the look of his/her face, sex will not be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:04 AM

No duty sex. I do believe a healthy sex life is a must for a happy marriage. And that also includes respecting each other's boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:01 AM
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There's nothing to negotiate after a firm 'no'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:00 AM

Also saying a micro penis man can't get married and have a sex life is same as saying, a woman with small boobs, funny looking labia don't deserve marriage and a happy conjugal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:00 AM

a micro pennis.. size doesn't matter. It's how he uses that. And well, I hate certain body parts of myself too. It's rare to be a human being and be proud of every inch of urself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:56 AM

If he has a nice face, and not any extreme kinks like anal, water sports, or BDSM, why won't I be attracted? And if I am attracted, sex shouldn't be that difficult. I am pretty old school: Deny men sex before marriage, and don't deny you man sex after marriage, unless your ill or going through a tragedy. A virgin or a woman with no slutty past, will actually have fewer problems having more sex, and letting themselves go before marriage, or trying out stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:54 AM
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Lol, there are no dearth of atheists in my nation and he can't say anything I haven't heard before. And as I have said elsewhere, the horny virgin doesn't need a man to vent her desires. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:44 AM
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But you won't marry em. So, no thanks. If I wanna be dicked down that bad, there's always a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:41 AM
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I have negative attitude towards men like u yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:34 AM
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And then slutshame me later...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:33 AM
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Then why complain about promiscuous women and idealise low n women? Do they know how women remain virgins and genuinely have low n count? Or are they too stupid to understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:21 PM
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sounds incredibly stupid though. But thanks for explaining. You know what? Many men believe they possess the golden dick that can ''change'' the woman's mind. But when she continues to say no, many men get furious and out comes the 'cat lady' talks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:12 PM
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if you really think a woman is not on your level, maybe don't chase her around, try to convince her to have sex, even after she says no. Coz, it's these men who are coming across as desperate when they do this. Not the woman who is apparently below their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:10 PM
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They're meeting with you, to get closer to you, to see if they can change your mind And they couldn't change my mind. So called me names.... said I was destined to die a miserable cat lady... charming chaps. No man is special to forsake my rules for em. Sorry, not sorry. If someone wants to be wilfully blind or obtuse, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:07 PM
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It is. I am not an asexual person, so it took me a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:05 PM
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You know, not spreading your legs is not a big accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:05 PM
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You have big daddy god and his rules. And his rules have kept me safe from fuckboys, being date raped, getting knocked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:04 PM
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Why not marry a woman instead? Chromosomes and genitals are just objects, after all. First you marry a guy, if you are a hetero man. Set the example. Don't RP men fancy themselves the leaders?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:44 PM
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I am a woman. Men get really aggressive and insulting if you make it clear no, they ain't gonna be the 'exception'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:35 PM
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then why complain bout the ''sluts'' and idealise low n count/virginal women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:34 PM
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And even if a woman makes it clear she's not into it and says no?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:31 PM
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You aren't special. It's not me that's begging for sex. It's despos who are wasting my time and theirs even after I made it clear there's no sex on the table. Interesting you won't blame these men who have been driven way beyond reason by horniness, but you are quick to blame me for sticking to my rules. No man is worth breaking your religious rules over. My boundaries trumps his horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:30 PM
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Except I don't. I have met some really cute guys. If I was more lax about sex, I would have accepted their offer. You think I can't go to OKC and meet up some guy? I just choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:26 PM
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Hahah, in many conservative cultures, women use sex toys on the sly. Porn too. We don't want to have sex with guys without marriage vows. But there needs to be a release. You are just an expat in one Asian country. I am born and bred in an Asian country. I know more than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:25 PM
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I don't drink due to religion mostly. Also once in college, I tasted whiskey once, it tasted yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:19 PM
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I mean many virgin men watch porn and masturbate and use fleshlight... No difference. I certainly won't judge if a man told me he has only had fucked fleshlights before
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:18 PM
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Women say no, coz they they mean it. You want to be obtuse. Be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:17 PM
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I do have something resembling a libido. But I am also moderately religious, so I am not going around and hooking up with guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:12 PM
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In most conservative cultures, dildos are pretty taboo(they are illegal in much of Asia, though still available). Being asexual or not is irrelevant, and the man would never be able to tell whether you really were a low body count/virgin or not. I am just sharing what most men would think. Nah, as long as we don't have sex with a flesh and blood man, which I have never, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:11 PM
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You know you can love the idea of something yet abstain from it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:06 PM

From an Asian country. Hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:03 PM
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and dildos were made for women who don't like to have sex with men, but wants to know what the 'real thing' can be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:02 PM
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If you use dildos, I would probably have a hard time taking you seriously as a low-n-count woman. At least you don't seem very sexually conservative. Most men would not believe you were a virgin. I said I was a virgin. Not asexual my dear. Just coz I have desires and (despite my senses) like men, doesn't mean I will bed them without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:01 PM
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hmmm. i see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:59 PM

I mean am an introvert, painfully shy, my idea of fun is cooking and watching movies... so the typical sporty, outgoing, party guy will be far from my my type anyway. He will tire of me very soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:58 PM

I wish I could find an understanding guy. Maybe the last guy who ghosted me was right, I will die an old maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:53 PM
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so... you are the male version of reformed hoes. The very women RP detests.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:52 PM

A sane purple pill man here. Are u for real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:42 PM

wow. Dude, you sound amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:41 PM
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It also doesn't work. Get over yourself, you, no guy is special enough to override my rules, regarding sex. I make it very clear in my profile. If men are blind, or willfully obtuse, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:34 PM
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then why complain about promiscuous women and want low n/virgin women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:28 PM
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But if a low-n-count woman comes to know of your past, and refuses to take things further, will you respect her decision? Coz we low n or virgin women have the same misgivings that low n men do of high n women - they see sex differently from love, struggle to pair-bond, have cheating issues, see sex, and prolly a lot of things very differently than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:25 PM
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I am financially independent and earning well. Most guys I meet are not that different financially from me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:57 PM
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seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:45 PM
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I mean I have been blocked, called ugly and uppity and told I will die an old maid if I don't ''loosen'' up the moment some meh realised they won't be the ''exception''.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:35 PM
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women r not objects. next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:29 PM
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but they will slutshame the woman if she has sex with him and then decide she is no longer wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:28 PM
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my wish. u r no one to tell me what to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:16 PM
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no, she's right. if you continue to''negotiate'' even after she had made it clear, you are a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:15 PM
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really? these guys can reject high n women, but get mad when a low n woman reject them for same reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:14 PM
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At the same time, they'll choose a woman with little to no sexual experience for more serious relationships, BUT WAIT, they are going to convince the women to have "sex" with them first before considering marriage because as they say "If I don't get to test the car, I ain't buying it." LOL They will justify it for "sexual compatibility" but they just want the sex. And then turn around and loose respect, coz she slept with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:13 PM
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a lot of the same men will also slutshame women who would be down to have sex without commitment with them. Then they are not wife material, but shameless whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:11 PM
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negotiating boundaries can never be justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:08 PM
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Coz, no guy is worth breaking my rules for. No matter how cute he is, how convincing hee is in the art of persuasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:58 PM
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I make it clear on my profile. If guys ignore that or fail to read that, their eyes and their ego (thinking they can make me break my rules) is to blame. Not me, ahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:57 PM

And am not talking about such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:54 PM
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Because you're not on their level Then why meet with me if I specify that no sex without marriage on my profile? They are wasting their time and mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:53 PM
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Ok, so how many times do guys keep on insisting despite me refusing, until it becomes harassment territory? Is there a cutoff after which you will believe a woman is not bullshitting? 4? 5?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:42 PM
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some men resort to lying in order to get laid . same men will complain why we women have no 'empathy' for their loneliness/why they ain't getting laid often. these men are hard to have empathy for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:11 PM
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isn't finding a woman who is ok with an fwb arrangement easier? Am sure these guys are already sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:09 PM
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well, if RP men can make AF/BB posts and rage at women 10 times per day, I can also make posts on how these men are not compatible with low n/virgin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:06 PM
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That's why men want low n count women because she is hard to get, which makes them more special. Most low-n-count women who are low-n-count by personal choice won't be engaging in casual sex. You don't get to be low n by giving it up for every guy you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:00 PM
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Sadly yes. We are aware of em. That's why there are rules against not drinking, not being with men beyond 8:00 pm in my culture
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:40 PM
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I can't speak for those women. Women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:39 PM
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Why do some Women try to convince an attractive guy to be in a relationship just because they had sex? Coz these women only believe in sex in an LTR? Dunno what else you expected... There are plenty of women who will sleep with you with 0 expectation of a relationship. Why not choose them? If you are in no mood for a relationship/marriage, targeting women with a low n count or virgins make 0 sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:36 PM

Well I was interested in some men coz they were cute and not that bad personality wise, but they all wanted sex without marriage so I backed out. Did I feel bad? Sure. But, no man is worth sullying my reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:11 PM

women with n count below 5, will not have sex without commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:43 PM

I want a woman with traditional sexual morality because I do. She should be on the same page as I am. Compatibility. Ok. I also lost out on many cute guys because of the no sex before marriage thingie. I guess I will have to go for arranged marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:25 PM

Ya'll the ones who are obsessed about non fat, low n women. You admitted to have casual sex. Well in that case, why should the low n woman - the woman who never had sex outside of LTR trust you? I will use a phrase RP men often use.. What value are you bringing to her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:21 PM

Yeah, these men would back out when this question is asked.. They want casual sex, but want virgins. Why should virgins or very low n women trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:19 PM

great your hubby was willing to wait. My friend made her man wait for 10 months before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:12 PM

They just wanna have their cake and eat it too. Many want 'trad Asian women', but have no idea, what she would be like and how different she would be regarding these stuff than even the average lapse Christia girl in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:23 PM

I understand the concerns, but many RP men seems to have an issue when low n women refuse to have sex without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:19 PM

The woman who will agree to have sex with u within 3 dates, is probably not one with low n either. Really low n women (think below 5), do all they can to avoid casual sex, ONS, flings and situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:16 PM

If I'm with someone exclusive and giving my time, effort, money and commitment. Can't help with the time and commitment thingie, but you absolutely can control how much money you are spending right? You can always go Dutch. Or if you feel like buying her a meal, take her to McDonalds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:06 PM

This is the US of course. If I went to a country with more traditional values looking for a wife, I’d be trying to “court” with intention rather than “date”. And outside of the hookers and the hook-up scene, you may actually have to wait for months to get any action. Or even get married. My friend is engaged to a white guy from the US. They met during her PhD program and she made him wait for 10 months and commit to her. They met in 2022 and will get married at the end of this year. We are from …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:01 PM

I mean on similar posts I made, many RP men proudly told that they would lie, do anything if it gets them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:33 PM

That's just it right? These guys want quick sex, but won't go to an escort. They will want a woman to put out fast, but also judge women who have a more casual attitude towards sex. They are not above stringing along low n count women for sex. I know these guys are expecting empathy but damn, they make it quite impossible. Am I supposed to have empathy for these men who are not above lying for sex? I just can't. I only have condescension. Sorry, not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:16 PM

What did you think... Asian women don't know how trashy men function? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:13 PM

This is not a sub to baby RP men's feelingz.... Got that? Ya'll can ofc vent. We can call you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:13 PM

Last time I checked, this is not a sub for Red Pill men... if it is, plz petition to the mods to change the name. It's also for women, across all pills. you just sound like a Western woman. Yeah, not wanting to be fuckzoned by men makes me like ''Western Women''? Ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:11 PM

The guys that lie to get sex are sad Sadly (but not a coincidence), RP is full of guys who are not above hoodwinking women like me to get his dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:58 PM

A woman with enough self-control so as the avoid casual flings will withhold sex till the man commits. You are the one that wants sex fast. She doesn't. I am afraid that she gets to decide the timeline of the sex in this case. Especially if you seek low n women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:55 PM

If she doesn't want to have casual sex or be your fwb/plate, you have to respect that. You would be wrong if you lie to her about wanting a relationship but all you want is sex. Most women like this won't sleep on you on the 1st few dates. Or even months. Too bad if you can't accept that. You want low n women, or women who have had sex in only LTR, but will also complain if she doesn't put out fast. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:51 PM

Nobody likes being treated unequally. If you tell me you had sex with the last ten guys you dated in the first date but I have to wait 3 months, it feels like you don’t actually like me and you’re playing games... I am not even talking about such a woman, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:44 PM

When did I make it about myself? I am speaking about the challenges they may face when dating a virginal or low n count woman. RP men want these women, but most won't be able to handle the way they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:43 PM

If someone makes you wait more than 3 months, they're not attracted to you. Or the woman wants to avoid casual sex. They wanna ensure the man agrees to a committed relationship or marriage, before agreeing to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:28 PM

Coz, in my culture, sex before marriage is frowned upon. And I don't wanna be fuckzoned. Does he have a nice face? Is the idea of being with him or having sex with him, a complete turn off or a turn on? Does he find me attractive? Does he have STDs? No? Then the chance that we will do okay in the sex part is more than 90% probable. I don't need to drop my clothes for him to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:11 PM

I am Asian and a 0 n-count woman at that. Most of my friends either wait for marriage or till they are in a committed relationship to have sex. I think many American men here who want trad Asian women, will actually balk at having to wait till marriage or wait several months before ''action''. If you are from a culture where its normal to have sex without commitment, ofc you will feel at odds in a culture where a woman can make you wait for several months before agreeing to get intimate. Or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:06 PM

Lmao, I have said it once before and will say it again: Traditional women from Asia and Africa are 10X more materialistic than Western Women can ever be. Also some of these guys are so delusional. They saw some Korean or Japanese women fawn over pics of young Leo, Timothee Chalamet on YouTube, read about light skin fixation of Asians and thought all these women will throw themselves at their average, white, overweight selves the moment they land there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:02 PM

A woman, who doesn’t have sex outside marriage or a committed relationship is extremely unlikely to go home with you on the first few dates. I think you missed the 'committed relationship' words. Do you have ADHD?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:47 PM

Then make her understand that you want sex on 1st date or 1st few dates. Coz this woman too wants to avoid casual sex or being fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:46 PM

western women are considered one of the worst company in the world as they are loud, obnoxious, oblivious, uncooperative, uncompromising and ugly. Dunno if women like Princess Diana, Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, Halle Berry, Adele, Winona Ryder, Natalie Portman, can be called 'ugly'. I think ugly and attractive ppl exist in any race.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:45 PM

I am a virgin, but what am curious about what you feel about non-virgins. As in woman who has had sex only in an LTR, or is a divorcee/widower and has had sex only with her husband? Also, the virgin will most likely not have sex without marriage. I know I won't. My virgin friends are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:31 PM

Genuinely high-quality Asian woman (I dunno if I qualify, but am below 35, not fat, financially independent, and with 0 n) i.e not hookers or into casual dating, will probably want you to exchange vows, or at least commit to her and move in before having sex. My friend who married her PhD batchmate from the US, made the guy wait for 10 months before having sex. She doesn't have sex outside of LTR and wanted to avoid an fwb/situationship. If you want trad women, with a more conservative outlook o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:27 PM

It's not always. Plenty of RP man has no intentions to commit to the low n woman, (maybe coz she is not pretty/rich/high status enough to be his wife), but will still expect her to make him his ''exception" and have sex after the 1st few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:24 PM

I am not generalising #allmen. Just a specific segment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:26 AM

Take my upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:20 AM

Hahaha, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:15 AM

Keep thinking such innocuous thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:14 AM

There are RP guys out there who want marriage but a lot of them say they wouldn't put a ring on it unless she was a virgin. I dunno, I am a virgin, and men usually- either backed off (disappointing coz I liked some of them, they were cute, but I understand), or doubled down on getting me to sleep while they had no intention to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:57 AM

No I didn't downvote your comment. I don't unless someone is being racist or offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:53 AM

Men are men everywhere. Those that think "I can be her exception," exist here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:52 AM

I am not misandrist. Well maybe towards certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:41 AM

There is a reason why a load of men want to go abroad to find girlfriends/wives. But are ya'll willing to wait till marriage or at least commitment in that case? Coz decent women from ''abroad'' will expect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:17 AM

Trust me you aren't that special.. Lol, tell that to PPBs who are flooding my country looking for a trad wife. RPs wax poetic on how they deserve low n count women, but never say what they bring to the table for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:03 AM

There's a fucking lot of room between fucking any player in the first date and making someone wait until marriage...why the hell would you wait until marriage to know if you are sexually compatible?? Coz that’s how many women from Asia and Africa think. I mean there’s a reason why PPBs flock to these countries looking for traditional women… Oh, you don’t want to wait for many months or marriage? Too bad. As some Americans say, “suck it up buttercup.” These men approached Asian and African women …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:57 AM

But these losers don't believe when we say we are not into casual sex and will say shit like, you will drop your panties for Chad. You are only making me wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:47 AM

Even if you look like young Leo or Timothee Chalamet and have a lot of rizz, I won't hop into bed with you without any commitment. Dunno why u think I am lying. Many women like me feel something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:44 AM

RP men will never believe whenever a woman voices her feelings, so its useless. Anyways, although RP men may want women like me, with either 0 or below 5 n count, most of us don't want you, coz you are bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:42 AM

"good" LTR girls also wanna get laid. Yes, we want sex. But only within marriage or in an LTR. Reasonable men don't have a problem with that. Coz this white guy did wait for 10 months and commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:34 AM

Amen sister. I am a virgin too and looks like will die an old maid. All men I came across want you know what on first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:33 AM

A woman who is genuinely committed towards staying chaste or from casual relationships - the type of women RP men idealise, will not heading home with you after a few dates, even if you look like a young Leo. How do you think a woman who is a virgin or with an n count below 5 has maintained her record? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:26 AM

You can't expect women to 'break rules' and at the same time condemn them for being sexually liberal/promiscuous. If you want to avoid 'the sluts', you shouldn't have any issue waiting till marriage or for months. That's what the fiance of my friend did anyway. Waited 10 months. He is a white guy from US and respected the fact that she is not into casual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:25 AM

If all the RP wants is causal sex, what’s your issue with promiscuous women? If you are not into LTR/marriage, then obviously the high n count women will be your ideal match. Also, many PPBs are RP and go to Asia/Africa in a bid to escape ‘Western harpies’. But there outside of hookers and women into casual sex, they will struggle with the bona-fide traditional-minded women who will want him to put the ring on her finger or commit and move in with her, before sex. Since these men are used to a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:05 AM
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If she doesn't suck it from the back, she doesn't love you. With this take, no wonder, why men like you are "struggling" with women. Since you fail to comprehend: In this case, she may have tried it once and hated it. It's the human right to avoid things you know are uncomfortable are painful. If you are so much into trying anal, would you accept pegging? Would you indulge a gf who nags you for pegging or using a 10-inch dildo on yourself? No? You don't love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:46 AM

Asian donor could also include desirable Asian men. Like say.. your single and you hear BTS Jungkook has donated his sperm with some clinic? Will you grab the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:55 PM
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Thank you for understanding. Many RP men here want women like us, but usually, men who are used to the standard American dating wouldn't know what to do with women like us - virginal or with genuinely very low n count. There are women like me, who won't have sex until marriage. And although some friends of mine are okay with having premarital sex, even they have had sex only in LTR, after commitment. So yes the guy in question has had to wait for several months, commit to her before any ''action…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:04 PM
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If a woman sleeps around = hoe. If a woman waits till marriage or commitment = religious freakshow. We can never win lol. Always the villain in the RP narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:56 PM
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What's the guarantee, he is not "dedicating years" to other women? Or see me as HV enough to be an LTR, but not his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:50 PM
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Very low n women (less than 5) and women who date to marry often intersect. And it's not a coincidence. Exceptions always exist of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:44 PM
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Hmmm I will be making a post on this soon. Many so called passport bros travel to Asian and certain African countries to seek "traditional women," but balk when they actually face what that consist of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:21 PM
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I mean in mu culture, having no sex before marriage is the norm. Many don't follow it, especially the men, but many like me do. I always said that many RP men here say they like women like me, but won't actually be able to handle the no sex without marriage or commitment clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:17 PM
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And extremely religios one who waits for marriage are extreme minority, unless is pressured by society, like Mormons or Saudis No one pressurised me. That's how I was raised and I had no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:13 PM
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Focus on getting a girlfriend first, or losing your virginity. I am not a lesbian. So no women for this woman. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:08 PM
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Maybe you got lucky. I am a 0 n-count woman and I would never dedicate 4 years with no marriage to a guy. What's the guarantee he won't plate me? No one fears being the forever gf more than the virginal or low n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:06 PM
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"women creates rulee for average guys and break them for hot ones". And every man wants to be treated as "hot one" Add ''some'' plz, thank you. There are women with 0 to less than 5 n count who never had sex outside of marriage or LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:02 PM
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Have a long vetting period (2yr+ before engagement & another 2yr before marriage) Not a bad idea but it will turn off many more trad/conservative women looking for marriage/LTR. Women who are dating to marry, won't waste 4 years with no wedding with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:01 PM
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Hahaha, I am a 0 ncount, and guess what? My ideas regarding sex is also pretty tame/vanilla. Usually (exceptions always exist), the woman who would be down for BDSM and other kinks with you will be someone with a high n count too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:48 PM

Who said anything permission my man? RP dudes are so low iq I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:40 PM
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Maybe she tried with one guy and didn't like it? In fact the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:39 PM
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Nah, a 65 year old unattractive approaching someone 30-40 years younger, has only money to offer. He has no other attributes which can incite 'love'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:45 AM
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Asia has many countries besides those
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:11 AM

Is he well off? Yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:20 PM

If a dude flashes $$$, of course some women will say yes. What's so earth shattering here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:13 PM

Yes. Was it not obvious? I am saying what many of my other Asian female friends think, but don't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:12 PM

Dear, 50+ ugly men who lurk here and are looking for 18-35 cute women: Being with you is a chore. If you are expecting young women to entertain you old fossils without throwing up, then better, fucking pay good, or get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:09 PM

I generally don't encourage gold diggers. But ugly, old men need to cough up $$$ if they want 18-35 cuties. He has neither look, nor youth, nor charm. A girl must be paid for being with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:08 PM

I was literally propositioned by a visiting Prof 4 decades my senior some years back. Yuck! If I was not thirsty for crusty white dick when I was not even employed, I sure as hell won't be now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:07 PM

Ugly is ugly. I am well off, so I thankfully I don't need to butter up ugly old men for my survival. Poor women don't have that option so sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:06 PM

You are mistaking some obsession with skin lightening with thirst for all white men. Just because its big in Asia doesn't mean a fat, old, white, catankerous crocodile will come and we will fall for him. Don't flatter yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:04 PM

Omg, some poor women in developing nations also work as hookers! And they entertain Johns! Who would have thought? Does it ever strike your mind how the ugly old men who visit these places only end up with hookers or women who are so deep in poverty, they just wanna escape. Both these countries have well off middle class and upper middle class women. They hardly ever date these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:48 PM
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Yes...?? I dunno why you are bringing that up. Ok, so you don't believe me. Big deal. Oh, some RP loser on Reddit doesn't believe me... whatever will I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:44 PM
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Most women do not lie awake at night wondering whether or not we meet the personal standards of some guy we are not even compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:39 PM
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If you have a punishment kink, Google "Dominatrixes near me"...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:36 PM
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They didn't want me enough? I will live with that. That's trash taking itself out, so why would I even bother if I was 5/10 or 10/10 in some waste of space's eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:35 PM
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This is a good way of making sure you're seeing somebody who's not being exploited especially if she markets her own services herself, but I feel like this would make you feel even more empty deep inside, because GFE has no value to people who just want sex without emotional attachment. It's for people who'd like a relationship but can't get one. So you'd put yourself in a situation where you have the illusion of having one, then it ends and the whole thing was about money. If anything, I feel l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:14 PM
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I have 0 n count. And many RP guys literally seem to idealise women with 0 or low n count. Until they find out that sex is prolly not on the table till marriage or LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:11 PM
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Such men also wants the emotional support and other stuff. So the woman should ot give em that. However, thankfully in my country, women can actually punish a guy like that. We have a rape by deception law. Many women can put such men behind bars with this law.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:07 PM
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You don't know that there are many men who want to have their cake and eat it too. No dearth of men who don't wanna commit, but want the perks all the same. Such men should be punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:01 PM
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No commitment, no such perks. I mean if the guy wants The Girlfriend Experience without commitment, he should just spend $300 on a high-end sex worker. GFE is a thing I hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:55 PM
1

??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:50 PM
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I have 0 n count so no fear :P. I have been ghosted coz of my reluctance to have sex before marriage. Guys want a woman like me, but chicken out when they find out the no-sex thingie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:21 PM
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Of course she should leave. But not before punishing him a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:15 PM
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Ofc I believe the woman should leave. But not without punishing the guy a bit. If he is deliberately plating her, he deserves a bit punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:14 PM
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A fwb or a man who has been "taking it slow" and not committing is no partner and doesn't deserve the supportive SO treatment from the woman. I hope you understand ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:10 PM
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That's fair. Actually I am a woman with 0 n count. Most of my friends are either virgins or with 1-3 n count and one of our biggest fear is a man who would sex us and then leave tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:07 PM
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Use logic, my dude: If you don't want to commit, what makes you think you are entitled to the bf/husband privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:02 PM
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You just want a good woman to be taken for a ride by some guy who wants an fwb but is too cowardly to admit it. It's my job as a woman to help women like me out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:01 PM
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The thought process is close but leave it to women to do everything backwards. You should cook clean do those things and show off that you are ltr wife material, you should not have sex with anyone in order to motivate him to excitedly move forward. No commitment, no bf/husband privileges. Will you buy a solitaire ring for an fwb? Or someone who you haven't committed to? Nope. And why would you? Same thing. If your dumb advice is followed, she gives her best to a loser who is a.) either plating …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:56 PM
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No. Just some men in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
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Well, my friend's family arranged matches for her. One guy she liked agreed to be her fiance. She quickly dumped the other guy over WA.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:50 PM
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and encourages creating an emotionally hostile environment by advising women to ignore their partner’s emotional needs, for example, If he has not committed to her, then he is no "partner." Just some guy she bangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:48 PM
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Many such men want to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:46 PM

Cool. As long as you are aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:08 PM

Cite source.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:08 PM

Women who want this guy for just his money, will most assuredly never will verbalise it. Why hurt your Golden Goose?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:03 PM
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So being rich and powerful is a form of valid attraction. Then AF/BB doesn't exist. A 32 year old woman who married the 45 year old law firm partner can say her partner's success makes her see stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:41 PM
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That argument still stands. Shittyppl exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:13 PM
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Ok, why would women try to get with men they're not attracted to for money? That's just prostitution. Know about the adjective 'some'? Try using it. I dunno, I can only answer for myself and not all women. As to why some women do that - maybe some women are greedy? Want an easy way out? What, you thought only men could be greedy for money? Some women want out of the poverty they have been born into by any means. They have to feed themselves and their parents. Many women in Philippines and Thaila…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:29 PM
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I would say since you even have women approaching you, makes you privileged than many men in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:20 PM
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Some can be. A 60 year old dating an 18 year old is legal fine, but it will make many uneasy. A 30 year old dating a someone in their 40s? Normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:19 PM
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Where did I say I will be going for these men my dear chap? I am employed and financially independent and don't have to hop on a dick of an old fossil to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:59 PM
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Caring about his status or income AT ALL makes you a gold digger. It becomes a matter of how big of a gold digger you are at that point. Everyone does that dude. You are implying only women want to ensure they marry men from their socioeconomic status. You couldn't be more wrong. Literally, all the guys I know settled down with women with similar income and education levels. One of them fucked around with women with lower social status but when it came to commitment, he only did that with a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:55 PM
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22 ad 29 is an okay age gap. Like I am 30 and wouldn't mind having a husband who is 40ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:50 PM
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Yes, three. And they got into arranged marriages. Can't say they are doing too bad as their wives are not bad-looking at all, and two have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:35 PM
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No, old people can't lookmaxx. Age has already done its damage. A young ish man who is average, still has his youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:34 PM
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I have seen many young , not that good-looking guys end up with steady gfs. Most were their looksmatch though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:27 PM
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If he's 20, not that attractive, he can always work on himself, if he's overweight. If the issue is not his weight, and he's in the tech or something, many tech grads and nerds date among their circle all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:26 PM
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Then your dad is not an example of the type of man I am talking bout. Keanu is almost 60. Three decades older to me. I find him very sexy still.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:23 PM
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I mean a young-ish man who's not in good shape, but has a nice face can still get a gf. An attractive old man, the silver fox, will obviously have women who want him. A man, who is neither young, neither fit, completely unsightly to look at...but has money + wants a 20 year younger babe? You tell, me what does the 3rd guy have anything going other than $$$ Don't tell me he has feelings. If he is targeting a 20 yr younger woman, he is not thinking with his brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:18 PM
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Gold digging is real. It's also a sub culture. Most gold diggers/sugars frfrom what I read run in similar circles. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:06 PM
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Is your dad very attractive? I mean I find Keanu Reeves very attractive and he is like almost 3 decades older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:05 PM
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Well why should any man expect anything else? Seems to be the only difference between the young man and the old man is you expect the old man to have money. If the man is below 45, not hideous or fat, and is actually capable of affection and kindness, he can get some woman to fall for him. Now will he return the feelings? That's a separate question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:01 PM
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Write coherently. RP men here complain about Staceys all the time. Does that mean they are trying to insult all the women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:49 PM
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I will say this. A particular type of man is just asking to be a victim of gold diggers. Ugly old men, unattractive and weebo passport bros in search of a young wifeu. It's just like if you go down a dark alley, wearing lots of gold, and expect not to be mugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:20 PM
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Dunno which part of the world your from, and it must be dreary, but the married women my age, in my circle, are mostly married men with similar income brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:18 PM
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This is just a red herring, considering women date exclusively for money even within their own age groups. Some. Not all. Most women date and marry within same socio-economic status. Gold digging is a sub culture. Just like sugaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:12 PM
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Yes, because most men aren't 50 year old men with no appeal trying to attractive 20 year old women. Most men go for women of similar age, background, and attractiveness, and expect the relationship to be genuine. Of course. My sympathies are always with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:10 PM

Nothing like a delulu oldboy ego. Like a balloon. Sometimes I feel so tempted to burst that balloon with a needle :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:09 PM
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No one is attracted to these men. Just their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:08 PM
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I won't. Thankfully am in an enough privileged position in life that I don't have to consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:07 PM
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Old, ugly men who want to date women way younger has to bring money to the table. I mean it's only fair. He no longer has youth and never had looks. And most of em are cranky crocodiles. A young woman needs to be rewarded if she dates/marries him. It's only fair. I know you are probably thinking "what a bitch..." but... Lissen, am telling what many Asian women think about oldies going to relieve their youth in their countries but will never tell it out loud. Many men here have gotten angry at me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:40 AM
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Semantics. You bet money is a key factor if an 18-35 year old ''dates'' a geriatric PPB, especially if he's not the George Clooney, Richard Gere type male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:37 AM
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Same thing applies? If a young Korean who looks like BTS Jungkook or V, goes there, of course he will get dates. If someone like PSY Gangnam style or Kim Kong Un Oppar goes, of course he will have to fork out money to get a 25 something hottie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:27 AM
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If you are among the top 10% earners in the US, and go to a developing country and target a woman who is much poorer and desperate to be out of poverty, ofc some woman will 'bite'. Luckily I am privileged enough to never know poverty and had been blessed to receive quality education and employment, but in some alternate universe I have been born into poverty/lower class, and some old, white sod came and flashed his money and asked me to be his SO, you bet I would have made him believe he was as …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:09 AM
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I have been to a good-ranked state school so yes. If you can claim to know so much about my country, then how daft can you be to presume that I won't know about Uncle Sam? Do you think you only have two eyes and a brain? Look, I got a friend who is EXACTLY that man except this guy is short too. Married a chubby Thai girl almost 20 years younger, 30 years ago. Is he rich? Or at least above average in wealth? Very well-off men of any age can get women no matter where they go, irrespective of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:05 AM
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Like some men are old, not particularly attractive (there are women who dig the silver fox type, but these men ain't it), but plenty of disposable income and an American citizenship, looking to spend their twilight years with a PYT in developing nations. Of course they are gonna attract a certain type of women. I mean, if wealth is a man's only redeeming point, this is to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:04 PM
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Best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:01 PM

no, am just showing some men the mirror. I hate delulus
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:59 PM
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I dated none. I am a virgin. Duno any soldiers/sailors. I am not even a Western woman. I am one of these foreign woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:50 PM
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Asian women would rather smash Mr Joseph Gordon a retired accountant who is balding with bad teeth over a slightly more attractive asian man. Again, generalising. Nope nope noppity nope from this Asian woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:59 PM
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Don't generalise my lad! I am not even generalising passport bros , but u r quick to generalise Asian women. I find BTS Jungkook and young Shah Rukh Khan more desirable than young Leo. Honest to God. This cursed website won't allow me to link, so Google these dreamboats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:57 PM
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Good man. As long as you harbour no delusions and pretenses, no biggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:53 PM
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Who are you fooling lol, asian women by far prefer white men to asian men according to stats. I mean, if you show women her a pic of Chris Hemsworth and ask her if she finds him attractive, sure many will say yes. If you show women a picture of Timothee Chalamet, and ask if she finds him hot, many will also say yes. What does that prove? Women like attractive men. Wow, never knew that. Mindblowing discovery. Who are you fooling lol, asian women by far prefer white men to asian men according to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:51 PM
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I did not generalise all men interested in a foreign woman. Only a specific subset - old, balding, overweight, or overweight weebs, interested in 18-30 , submissive wifeu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:33 PM
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I think the overall politeness of Asian cultures creates an Emperor Clothes kinda situation with these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:25 PM
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Mind you, I am not talking about all men who happen to have a liking preference for East Asian/South East Asian/South Asian/Middle Eastern/Horn Of Africa women. I am aware that certain people may feel drawn to a certain phenotype or find certain cultures fascinating and it does not have an ominous implication. Not always at least. Also, there are men who are in Korea/Japan as an exchange student, English Language teachers, or got transferred there by their companies. Many of them do end up datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:01 PM
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I can kinda see why a dude who isn't getting much in America would go somewhere else. They go from nothing to at least some woman being interested. If you do decently in America, you'll feel like a 9/10 in South America or Asia. Then you are not the guy this post is intended for... If, regular women, not just hookers and women who are passport hunting are "throwing themselves at you," then you are not the man this post is intended for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:49 PM
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No, I did not stereotype all white men interested in AF, as ugly and old. Only a subset, who are indeed ageing, bald, overweight, and want to enjoy their retirement years in an Asian country. I even said I understand that in their last years on earth, these men want to feel desired, want a pretty woman who will make them feel loved. But if they are not attractive i.e look like Bill Murray rather than George Clooney or Brednan Fraser from The Whale, they should understand that while some pretty A…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:34 PM
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36, 6’-0” tall, and fit. Thick head of blonde hair that my guy friends are jealous of, and blue eyes that my girl friends are jealous of. I modeled in my 20s. I’m also a top 10% income earner with zero debt. Then you are clearly not the man this posts targets. I think you know well, the type of man I am showing the mirror to in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:24 PM
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No, just a subset. You can say am demonising that subset. Sorry, not sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:21 PM
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Sorry for the dehumanising harsh language. It's not for all ageing, balding, overweight guys or Weebs, just a subset
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:06 PM
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Then maybe you are not as average as u think? How would u honestly rate yourself? A guy who is not hideous, not obese, not terribly short and not old, do get good girlfriends in these countries. I follow some AW/WM couples on SM, and most of them don't have huuuge age gaps and are looksmatched. One of my friends is engaged to a guy she met in her PhD program in California. They are both 30+ and looksmatched with similar earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:03 PM
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The “show up and be white” card doesn't work as well for guys as u think you do. Now are there various degrees of light-skin worshipping in Asia? Sure. But even then, that does not mean any Tom, Dick and Harry with white skin can arrive and be expected to be a huge hit among women. As I said before: Will a guy who looked like peak Jake Gyllenhaal, receive female attention? Yes. Will someone like Brendan Fraser's character from The Whale show up and think he will be fawned over and thought hot st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:53 PM
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I won't but in hypothetical scenario I did, or someone close to me said she was duped, and the guy I know was engaged to her, that law is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:50 PM
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If a guy has no intentions to marry me, yet lies about it to have sex, by the laws of my country, I can have him arrested. And I would. If he can tell a blatant lie to get pussy, he deserves punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:39 PM
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How's it racist? Where did I have anything against any race?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:35 PM
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No it isn't. I am only targeting a certain subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:35 PM
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I mean if a 40+ year old woman with 3 kids from 3 baby daddies say she is looking to commit to the family minded investment banker, I will have some choice words for her. Imagine such a woman thinking that she may be hot stuff to HV Indian and Korean American men coz she is white and has a vagina. How entitled and clueless will she be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:33 PM
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Quite a few 50+ unattractive men lurk here. And think coz they are white and from US, they will be God's gift to us. I am sure my words sound extremely cruel to them, but someone has to hold a mirror to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:31 PM
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I am not talking about all PPBs, only a subset. And okay, I admit, my words are really harsh and cruel. You are free to think I am a downright heartless bitch for saying this. But these men need to be made aware of the reality. The harsh truth is better than fake platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:26 PM
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And... even then... I understand why a man would want to live his best life in his twilight years, and get some of the devotion and female tenderness he thinks he was deprived of all his life. But... if he is an unattractive ageing guy, he has to realise, he can get it, but it will come at a price, and the woman will mostly choose him for his money. If he can accept this reality, all the power to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:24 PM
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I am only attacking a subset of men. Not any guy who wants a relationship with Asian women. And I realise my words are really cruel. Ageist and fatphobic. But these men are the dregs of your nation and don't deserve my words of kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:21 PM
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No, I am not. You are justifying lying to one woman for sex, just coz some woman keep around orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:16 PM
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Depends on what you mean normal. Will a not hideous, not old guy get a gf there? Most likely. If a foreigner who looks like young Jake Gyllenhaal comes, will many of us find him hot? Sure. Will someone who looks like Brednan Fraser's character from The Whale come and think he will be considered hot? NOPE.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:11 PM
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Look, I don't even have anything against men who have a liking for Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Indian/Ethiopian/Arabian women. I get why they would like us. I am not one who immediately thinks all AF/WM pairings are sus. But there are a subset of men who deliberately target women from developing nations or EA in the hope of a trad, submissive wife. T Many of em are ageing and unattractive or plain overweight and unattractive. But have money + green card. They think since they are white, they will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:02 PM
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if u r open, it's not plate spinning. Just a fwb arrangement. Which btw is perfectly valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:55 PM
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No, I view sex as something only to be had between married spouses. Crystal clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:55 PM
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We have some PBBs in my country (somewhere in Asia), luckily they can't pull some shit coz we have laws against rape by deception. Like, if some foreigner thinks he can come, make fake promise of marriage to a woman, have sex and say adios babe and hop back to America, boy do I have news for them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:53 PM
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Is he otherwise not hideous? Under 45? Then they might get a woman whose their looksmatch. Check social media. Plenty of foreign employees and expats who are average to above average in looks, and otherwise presentable end up dating women who are similar in age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:45 PM
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Hmmm. I am from a very traditional country, hold trad values to boot, but am very familiar with feminist discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:30 PM
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My post is targeting a very specific subset of men. Are my words intentionally harsh? Yes. The harsh, brutal truth is better than false platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:24 PM
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I have never claimed all men who like foreign women are the same .. I lived in 2 countries in Asia for a total of about 11 years, and dated women between Taiwan and India. Culturally, the (same age as me) educated women were sweeter and the dating culture was "warmer" in both of those places. I ended up marrying a lovely woman 6 months younger than me and have been with her for a total of 12 years. Then, that doesn't make you a PB. You are just some guy, maybe with some preference for Asian wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:24 PM
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not every guy who goes abroad to seek a partner fits that stereotype though, even if a lot of women like to paint it that way. i've been to and lived in a lot of the typical ppb destinations and i met some perfectly normal guys who date women around their own age or slightly younger. guys who had gfs or even wives in the west, who are not starved for female attention back home. they can date regular women who are genuinely attracted to them. Where did I say, that every guy who is interested in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:05 PM
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And you know very well a man doesn't have to say he's not interested in a relationship Sure, he doesn't "have to", but if he "taking it slow" for 5 years, and being deliberately obtuse then yes, he is to blame. Luckily in my country, we have a sex by deception law! So any RP men thinking of lying to get pussy can be arrested. :) :D I am a virgin who dates only to marry, but God forbid some guy tries that trick, I can punish him thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:03 PM
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Also Internet exists. And many 3rd World women are fluent in English.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:01 PM
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Eh, depends. Chances are... they already are feminists in relation to their culture. You do realise, that interracial, intercultural, interreligious marriages and even premarital sex is frowned upon in most of these countries? So a woman who doesn't give a fig to these social mores and can date/marry a foreigner is already very progressive compared to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:00 PM
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I dunno the statistics of how many bring her to US and how many stay back. Depending on the country and its attitude to foreigners (yes, many nations can be mighty xenophobic) , the guy may or may not decide to spend his retired years there. But even then, if he is old, balding, with a protruded belly, and assuredly doesn't have a sparkling personality, the woman 20 years his juniour is with him mostly coz of his money and he is her ticket to get out of poverty/good life. Like, as long as these …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:48 PM
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Many men don't even realise they are advocating for the last scenario. And in that case, they are being gasp... gold diggers!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:43 PM
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But not the young ones, or the ones that are just there for work, but specifically going to asia to find "love" because they are delusional, AND they are 60+ and unattractive... Yes, I am specifically talking of men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:30 PM
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If she is of age and has given her consent and both are aware of the nature of the relationship, none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:37 PM
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As long as you have no delusions that the Asian woman is into you for you, all the power to you. This only applies to ageing, unattractive passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:35 PM
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That's what many men ppl here don't understand. The East is not some paradise where you will reign supreme coz you are of Caucasian extract, by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:33 PM
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Who said am upset? Does anything in my post indicate that? I myself find some men in their 50s very attractive. Silver foxes are a thing. No shaming here. Just making ground realities apparent. If a passport bro is ageing, balding, with a beer gut and looking for a hot, devoted, 18-35 trad wife/gf in these areas, ofc she will mostly be with him for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:30 PM
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The handful of passport bros who are below 40 and not hideous will have no trouble attracting some women for flings. But the men who are unattractive will have trouble attracting women who are not after you know what.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:28 PM
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No, I do. And yes balding veterans with beer bellies have nothing to offer attraction-wise. What they offer is a chance for a better life for some women. Or a chance to immigrate to the US. Would some women grab at this chance? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:23 PM
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A woman who wants out, has eyes on a better life or green card, will not hesitate to stroke some ageing passport bro's ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:22 PM
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women love foreigners.. If a foreigner is young and handsome? Of course they can feel attracted to them. If a foreigner is a retired, ageing veteran with no looks and entitlement that is higher than Mt Everest? Sure they love his money him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:21 PM
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Where have I claimed that no materialistic women exist in America? Of course they do. But to pretend that women in Asia and Africa will fall in love for the fat, balding white bloke twice their age, is just delusion. Sure they will date/marry these guys to have a shot at a better life. But many passport bros won't wanna hear this. They think their old, crusty, white self is so irresistible to us or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:19 PM
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I am not slighting these women. I am from one of these countries. I have friends who make fun of such men. Such men are kinda laughing stock among many of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:13 PM
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Financial dependence is not sexy. I don't want to be a sugar mama, so why will I marry a guy who earns significantly less? On the other hand, I don't want to marry someone who earns twice what I make. That's a power imbalance. So yeah.. same ballpark and level of education.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:59 AM
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I do have an answer. You just don't agree. If your a man with a $30K annual income and want a woman with $100K to date/marry you, doesn't that make you the gold digging hoe? Or the leech?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:54 AM
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Who says he has no value as a loyal citizen of his country? But if he is not attractive... or charming, then yes, he is not much of a dating prospect to the 18-35 yr old women from these countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:52 AM
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Materialistic women are not limited to US of A. If anything, many women from these countries are more hard-headed and materialistic than American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:51 AM
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Red Pill has consumed your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:48 AM
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The broke woman is relying on him to maintain a certain lifestyle. I have sacrificed a lot and have worked my ass off to have a great job and be financially independent and maintain a certain lifestyle. I am proud of my degrees, my ambition and that I am among the top 10% earners in my country. Why the f would I waste all this on some broke guy? Do you hear yourself? I can employ the broke guy, give him a job. But date/marry him? No. Why will I fund his lifestyle? If he's broke even at age of 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:48 AM
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This doesn't apply to every man interested in a foreign woman. My post is geared towards a very specific sort of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:40 AM
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Even if she is not looking to immigrate, doesn't mean she hasn't chosen him mostly for his money. I did say many such women have two goals - either a higher standard of living, or a green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:40 AM
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No, it isn't. If I am earning $100K annually, wanting a partner to earn a similar income is not gold-digging. If I date/marry someone unemployed or earning less than $50, wouldn't it make him the gold digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:38 AM
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Not all women are gold diggers. Plenty of women are perfectly happy with me whose annual income is in the same ballpark as theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:29 AM
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I am not saying these guys cannot get a younger wife or gf if they travel there with such an aim. But for all intents and purpose it will be a transactional affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:08 AM
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Ssshhhh let passport bros be delusional. I mean there are ''non picky'' women there who will absolutely date these guys. But she will be in it for the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:06 AM
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Many passport bros are of this type. They are considered unattractive in their home countries and think just coz they are white and/or have a US citizenship, quality women in Asia will queue up to be their bed fellows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:42 AM
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You are just afraid to be the woman a man uses as a stepping stone while developing and waiting for the marriage material. It's an issue with your self-esteem and valuation. You are just afraid to be the man a woman uses to climb the social ladder or get $$$, while they fuck Chad on the side. It's an issue with your manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:40 AM
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The examples am giving are not hyperbole. Men like that do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:38 AM
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You will be surprised how people can be delusional. Even adults. Yes, Western women suck, but Meera from Mumbai or Jin-Ah from Seoul, who is 20 years my junior and is 8/10 and makes a mean plate of biryani or samgyeopsal is with me for my cranky, pot-bellied, balding, 55-year-old self! I am white, from US, ofc am such catch. This is what such men think. It makes me laugh lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:32 AM
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I think being aware and having no delusions of what you are getting into will set us free. To 50-year-old veterans who bagged 25-30-year-old Thai, Filipino, or Indian women... yes, it's mostly your money and a green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:29 AM
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Way to make assumptions about my weight and lifestyle. I am quite finicky about hygiene and fitness thank you. And charming? I can turn on and off depending on who am speaking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:25 AM
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And you admit there are more options for us men for relationships? You CAN marry someone from overseas who doesn’t care about your money or citizenship? Sure you can, if you're young and attractive or the silver fox type old guy. But an overweight or unattractive weeb or the ageing, balding veteran with a beer belly who's on the lookout for a 25 yr old wifeu, specifically from developing/conservative countries? You tell me what do you bring to the table if your are one of the above? No youth, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:21 AM
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I am only talking about a very specific type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:29 AM
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If a woman who is 400 lbs and with 3 baby daddies say she wants to date a young Zac Efron lookalike, you will of course point out her delusions. That, she very likely won't date such a guy, and even if she dates, the guy will most likely not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:39 AM
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Am sorry about your experiences. Well, I hope you meet a cute women who will be down for an fwb if that's what you are hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:35 AM
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They only care about your money! If you are 50+ and not exactly George Clooney, but more like Bill Murray, and your money/resources is your only + point... and you are going to these countries to find your 20-30 yr old submissive wifeu... Shouldn't it be obvious on which type of women will give u the time of the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:33 AM
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Where in the post am I complaining? I am just making ya'll aware of the trade-offs involved if you are an ageing, unattractive passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:30 AM
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The balding, pot bellied, plain faced 50 something veteran or overweight weebs who think they are God's gift to Asian women coz they are white... they are in for some nasty shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:25 AM
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Are you below 50? Are you attractive? Did you solely go there for wifeu hunting or were just posted/visiting there? Depending on the answers, then this doesn't apply to you. Some white men in America think, us women in Asia will fall for any one with pale skin. We do know the difference between a young DiCaprio and Danny Devito. Being white doesn't make ya'll handsome by default to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:22 AM
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I dunno why a man who is interested in casual flings would even approach a woman who has made it very obvious that's not a her goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:48 AM
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If all your looking for is some fun without commitment, what is the ethical and far more easier option - seek a promiscuous women, or feeding a blatant lie to the virginal or low n count woman looking for a husband or LTR ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:44 AM
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who is saying to have a relationship with her? If she is openly promiscuous, approach her for a fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:43 AM
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That's fine. I am not gonna ask commitment or marriage on a man who doesn't want it. But, he should make it evident to me tat he is not particularly looking to settle down, so that I can make my decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:35 AM
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If sex is all you want, is the main goal for RP men, why not date promiscuous women? She will not vett you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:24 AM
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And for women who wants marriage and kids, wasting two years on a guy who is just 'finding himself' isn't an attractive option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:22 AM
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Taking it slow is a red flag tbh. Just being upfront that you are not looking for anything serious or a marriage is better. Will you lose the woman who is only looking for a husband or steady bf, if you say you are looking for something casual? Yes, but you were not compatible with her anyway and if you got sex, it would only be through a lie. Many guys string women along with that answer and waste their fertile years with that statement. They are not taking it slow. They are not willing to comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:13 AM
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I don't think your a PB. You are a Vietnamese yourself for one. It's normal to be attached to the culture of your ancestors or to cultures that resemble that. Also normal to seek women with similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:04 AM
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If you are too vanilla, too boring, and don't mind getting married, then you can always seek women who date to marry. But they are radically different from these women and are very circumspect about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:02 AM
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You'd be surprised. One of my X mutuals is into cosplay. She is in a long fwb with a tech bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:01 AM
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Oh, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:55 AM
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That's a hyperbole. If it was a mutual decision to start a casual relationship, and down the lane, one developes feelings, it's not the other's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:53 AM
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And I am empathising with that. I am just saying, he should realise, even his trad, hot, wifeu, mostly loves his bank account or US passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:46 AM
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If they are not attractive and have money, they will not have trouble having a younger wife, who wants his $$$ or green card. One of my FB friends from the Philippines has married an American man thrice her age (in his 60s). He is funding her law school dreams and is well-off. I don't think any of them are disillusioned as to what each is bringing to the table. Sure, some women who like white men are out there in Asia. But that doesn't mean any Tom Dick or Harry who is ugly as sin and broke but …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:45 AM
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I am not hating passport bros. I am just pointing out the reality. It's like, if an overweight, 38 year old woman, with kids from 3 baby daddies, now wants a rich, handsome and commitment oriented guy her age... I will also point out her delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:41 AM
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He is milking his options. That's his right. I am just pointing out the tradeoffs involved. The educated, family-oriented, and somewhat cute women between 18-35 in these countries will want nothing to do with these men. These men shouldn't flatter themselves a catch to women like that in Asia/MENA just coz they are white. Are there 18-35-year-old Asian/MENA women who will date and marry the ugly retired veteran, or the unattractive weebo? Most likely. Are they mostly after his money or the US sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:39 AM
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Many such men think, they will find "true wuv" in the East, and women will fall over themselves coz he's white.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:31 AM
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No it isn't. Certain types of men need to understand that there are tradeoffs. A man who looks like I dunno Danny Devitto, is not that charming, but has money, wants a trad, young, wife from conservative culture? Ofc, she wants his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:30 AM
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Then why complain about high n count women? You despise such women and won't date them, but if this is how you think, why should we, the virgins or the low n count women trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:28 AM
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Yes. Or are nerds into cosplay. Or are goth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:27 AM
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No, you don't. This is solely geared to men who have neither looks, nor, youth, nor charm, but want trad, hot, wifeu who are 20-30 years younger. They may get the wifeu. But whoops she is only interested in his money or the green card!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:26 AM
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She doesn't need to know the identities of your other partners. Just the status of your relationship with with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:18 AM
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No, I am just explaining your thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:12 AM
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If a man says he is not interested for a relationship, and the women stays, that's on her. You know very well, that's not the scenario I gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:10 AM
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That's great. See, whether or not you wanna settle down.. your life, your rules. Just let people know where they stand with you and what is your intention regarding them on the forefront. Not an unreasonable expectation don't u think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:09 AM
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If you want casual, there are plenty of women in certain scenes who are up for casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:07 AM
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And I have always maintained gold diggers are unethical women. But RP men here feel its justified lying to get sex. I don't support gold digging in most cases, except one - and even then, it's not exactly that I support, it's more of like I think how dumb were you to not see this coming? I am talking about passport bros who solely target women from 3rd world or East Asia, under the notion that they are more submissive/traditional. I have come across retired Army veterans, 50+ wanting to go to Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:14 AM
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If you don't want to commit, and she does, has made it very clear from the start, aka from her perspective, she does not know that what you have is casual or a one-sided commitment from her side only, she deserves to know she is being strung on/duped.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:54 AM
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And I suppose its your right to distinguish between a woman you want something casual and someone you want to lock down. Is the 'her' aware that you do not intend to be serious if ever? That's all I want to know. Wanting casual sex is fine. Dishonesty isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:47 AM
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Show statistics plz. I am a 0 n woman and I explicitly prefer men who have only been married or in a monogamous LTR, with no history of DA. Ofc if a guy lies about his past, and about his intentions about me, he's to blame, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:48 PM
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But is finding a woman down to have casual sex with u that difficult, that u have to lie to a woman wanting commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:43 PM
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I’ve noticed something similar with regard to me being very upfront about being firmly childfree, many women seemed to take offense to this and some would even match with me on OLD just to start an argument. That's them being crazy dingbats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:42 PM
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Ok? And where did I say they are justified? They are unprincipled thots. But many RP men are justifying lying to a woman who is upfront about marriage/LTR to get sex. I am not trying to justify gold-digging women. What they are doing is wrong. Women are not hive minds. Your logic is also bunkum. Since Jennie, the Instagram baddie made me her orbiter and made me burn $300 on a meal, means am justified to feed bs to Molly who genuinely likes me and is upfront that she is only interested in an LTR.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:08 PM
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I don't have sex. Been a virgin. And been ghosted for that. Most likely will die an old maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:22 PM
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There's no strategy here. These women are not withholding sex to make a point. They are against casual sex due to religious/cultural factors, or are just not psychologically into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:17 PM
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A situationship or fwb involves a mutual understanding that this will mostly not gonna turn into something serious. You are certainly not platonic, but not exclusive and both parties know this. The scenario given is not fwb. Not a casual fling. Not a situationship. It's straight-up deception. I am not here to convince men who don't wanna settle down, to do so Their life, is their choice. I am only against dishonest men, who are not above lying blatantly if it gets them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:14 PM
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Sounds like a great fellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:11 PM
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If you are tryna justify tricking someone to get sex/money, then yes you deserve to be "mocked". I admit, I am the biggest bitch to unethical people. Why won't I be? I have never done or attempted any form of casual hook up. Okay, then am sorry. See, if your finding it difficult to get a date, I have nothing but empathy. If your trying to justify hoodwinking honest ppl to extract money/get into their pants, then yes, no 'empathy' from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:57 PM
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Thank God, my country has a law for this situation. Rape by deception is a thing here. So any passport bros who r looking to "have fun" through such sneaky ways, I won't have an ounce of empathy if they are thrown behind bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:47 PM
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Hmm... your flair seems apt, I wonder why? You want nothing to do with high n women. But you are not above tricking low n women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:43 PM
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How is blatantly lying to a woman to get sex, "practical guideline"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:32 PM
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Interesting take!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:38 PM
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I am sure you aren't. But men who are like this do exist and are not a woman's boogeyman. I mean check some of the comments here. One esteemed user said 'Lying' is the best weapon for a man to get sex, use it wisely. Unethical men exist. Denying it would be like me denying that women who use men solely for their resources exist and not a figment of a guy's imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:33 PM
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Are they? Some RP men here seem to think anything, even a lie is justifiable if it gets you sex. Like I am sure some of these men would say killing puppies is ''justifiable'' if it gets them sex. I am sure a non zero of em would not even think consent matters. Coz, who wants to waste time on that when you can be in her? Get pussy, any means necessary, get the goods, by hook or crook, is the message am getting from some charming men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:16 PM
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But if all he wants is few dates and sex, he should just say, he's not looking for anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:12 PM
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Men like this do exist. Some men here only have established that they ain't above lying (not just being ambiguous, but straight up lying) to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:04 PM
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You do know there are women who stay away from casual sex? Or are only looking for marriage or LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:02 PM
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Honestly the few men saying that it's okay to lie to get sex, it kinda sounding the same as : I need money, so should steal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:52 PM
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Can u share some tips on how to identify this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:42 PM
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Thank you sir! That's really honourable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:37 PM
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You hate high n count women, but aren't above duping the virgin or low n count women for sex... RP makes no sense atp
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:37 PM
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I mean that's to be expected. It's like having any sort of standards will be a filter. I am religious, don't believe in premarital sex, and date to marry. Of course this will make me ineligible for many men. I am ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:30 PM
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What does sexual attitude have to do with your physical features? I personally know two women who have been 'hoes' and have been in the hookup scene. They are above average in looks. I met a few men who said they were only into having fun. They were also very attractive. If I were the type who was into hookup, they would have been the perfect match. Ok, I agree that you find women with high n count unattractive. But the type of women you do find attractive, the virgin and the low n count women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:21 PM
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they exist ofc, in furry scenes, BDSM and poly scene, also goths. But u urself said most men dont wanna have casual sex with women like that. Men want a woman with 0-5 n count to have casual sex, but to women like that, these men are bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:15 PM
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Generally speaking, the type of woman who is open to casual sex is not the type of woman men want to have casual sex with. So women who are down to have casual sex with you enthusiastically are not your type. You wanna have casual sex with women like me who are either waiting until marriage or have n count of below 5, and have only had sex with steady boyfriends. You want casual sex with women who want to steer clear from casual sex. Logic has flown out of the window here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:12 PM
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That's why I will never get RP men. They detest the high n count women, but is ever ready to take advantage of low n count women. They think they are too good for high n women, but they are untrustworthy for low n women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:09 PM
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The scenario you are talking bout, is miles apart from the 1 I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:07 PM
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But see here, if she develops feelings down the road, isn't that on her? If the 2 of u started out as casual, if one genuinely falls in love, the other is not to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:06 PM
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how to get traditionally monogamous western women comfortable with a non-exclusive relationship with you. And then RP men will bemoan "where have the good woman gone?" RP men have issues with women with high n counts, but are extremely down to exploiting women with 0 or low n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:05 PM
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I don't even do premarital sex, so I am safe lol. But I have seen women like me, who were duped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:03 PM
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There are many women who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:43 PM

I am not getting personal on you, just showing you the mirror. Men like you are disgusting and deserve all the misery they have received.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:41 PM
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I am a wise enough woman. I don't need to learn about wisdom and ethics from the likes of you. A bit.... hypocritical of you to be worried about catfishers and red flags, when you are a walking, talking, breathing black flag. It's like a gold digger worrying about true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:37 PM
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So 80% are bottom of the barrel? I refuse to believe lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:34 PM
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Do you still have her, if you have lied to her about commitment? That's like a con man pretending he closed the sales deal. I just think you are a flaming hypocrite to be advising about red flags and catfishes when you are one walking red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:33 PM
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Your the same guy who said that lying is a man's best strategy if my memory serves. Bit rich of you to talk about trash and red flags. I am sure those are visible every day when you check the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:27 PM
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Men like that really disgust me. Obviously #notallmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:24 PM
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Men like you deserve gold-diggers or women who are only after your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:24 PM
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Because being honest doesn’t get you laid. This sounds like justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:14 PM
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There are plenty in specific scenes. You are trying to justify duping a woman who wants monogamy/commitment and is upfront about it. Later the same RP men will call the women a man like that duped, 'damaged goods' and 'unfit to be a wife'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:12 PM
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Nah, if they are in such small numbers, how come women with triple digit N count exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:08 PM
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Women who want casual sex exist. Women who are polyamorous also exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:04 PM
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Sure you can run, hunnybuns. Just don't make me have sex with false promises. As long as you don't do that, why just run, hop, jump, crawl for the hills. I don't give a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:02 PM
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I am not hostile, just laying my cards on the table. I don't have premarital sex and in our culture, many of us date to marry. If being upfront with my intentions = demeaning, then you need to check the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:01 PM
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I have no issues with men who just want casual sex. I have issues with men who resort to such shady tactics to get casual sex. Kinda like the end justifies the means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:59 PM
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Again, I am saying I have no issues with guys who are openly polyamorous or not looking to settle down. I have met guys like that, we went our own ways after the 1st meeting, with no hard feelings. But this type of guy is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:58 PM
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Why do women think that they can be vague? Some not all. Some women are dishonourable. Some are not. Stop thinking of women as a monolith. No two women agree on a single thing. If a woman is saying she is interested in LTR/marriage early on, and you don't want the same, and you conceal the fact, yes, you the asshole here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:56 PM
1

What's the Huberman scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:53 PM
1

Most normal people would not take a statement "Sorry not interested," as a "Maybe.."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:44 PM
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Ya'll don't understand but the way some of you expect women to reject you, none but the extremely fucked up people would reject like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:43 PM
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Even if it is something they have control over, why make them feel like shit. As a former overweight woman, taunts about their weight is not something overweight ppl are unfamiliar with, to begin with. Chances are, this person is already very insecure about their weight and has body image issues. Makes zero sense for me to make them feel like shit. It's kinda like me rejecting a man who is bipolar and telling him that the reason why I am rejecting him coz I believe he is a nutcase who should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:42 PM
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This is not a job dude. If you have messed up your targets that affects the company's bottom line, yes your manager has to give u feedback on where u went wrong. There's no feedback on why someone finds you, not their type when it comes to dating. Why? Coz most of the time it's not even that can be salvaged. You tell me what good a feedback would do for a man/woman who is short, and balding? The feedback will all be attacks on physical aspects they can't change. Making someone feel shitty is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:31 PM
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I now honestly think RP men here are a shade masochist. Like do they really wanna be told how unattractive they are by a woman who is rejecting them? Beats me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:19 PM
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I dunno how more blatant can a statement like ' I am not attracted to you, sorry be.."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:18 PM
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They may be vague to you, but they all indicate disinterest. If a guy says he is not interested in me, or can't see himself in a relationship with me, I take it as he is saying. I am not gonna pester him with further questions. Is it coz am Indian? Is it coz I have hair problems? Is it coz am a non vegetarian? Is it coz you don't find me pretty? The answer can be any or more than one of these options. But why does it matter? If he is not interested, he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:17 PM
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Sorry, not interested, sorry, your not my type, sorry, I don't see you like that, are all statements that indicate lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:02 PM
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It doesn’t help that women will continue calling and flirting with you after a rejection either. Some women. I said in my post that some women are unethical enough to let the guy wallow in delusion that he has a chance so that she may use him in some manner. Many will just tell you not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:59 PM
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I dunno why you think a woman is lying when she is saying she is not attracted to you. She is not attracted to you. Ergo, she doesn't find you attractive. Or else she would have said yes. Unless am married (I don't believe in premarital cohabitation or sex), why will I say no to an overall decent fellow if I find him cute and is interested in me? I would be like, if we are on the same page regarding feelings let the courtship period begin. I will also bring up engagement and marriage. Religious …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:53 PM
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Plenty of posts from RP guys about how women who reject men are lying/disingenuous about the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:15 PM
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And why is it a random woman's responsibility to "help him with his prospects with a woman?" I just gave an example of being overweight. Let's say she brings up your weight. What's the guarantee you won't think: If I lose weight, Samantha will be interested in me, and say yes." You have made up this assumption, and when Samantha turns your slimmer self down again, you will think, "She led me on." If he is a friend, I do ask him if he is interested in my single friends. Most of the guys seem to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:35 PM
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If a woman is being hit on a guy she doesn’t find attractive it’s the worst thing ever, and he’s a subhuman creep. Not really. Unless he is being very aggressive/pushy. Most women will say the statements I shared and hope they have conveyed the message .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:28 PM
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I am sorry, you cannot comprehend my post. I guess you tell an overweight woman who gathered enough courage to ask you out or send you feelers, to fuck off, has her fat self checked the mirror? How dare she think she has a chance with you? I can't bring myself to be that cruel. As someone who used to be at the bottom of the looks hierarchy due to my weight not that long ago, excuse me for my inability to body shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:06 PM
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I also don’t think it’s weird for someone who’s been rejected to wonder why. But shouldn't ppl understand at some level why they were rejected? Like, I was the fat girl not that long ago. I didn't need it spelled it out for me, why I got no follow ups from my dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:02 PM
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A man can be unattractive to one woman, attractive to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:00 PM
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Really? Tell that to my old male friends from school. Most of them are married anyway so don't come at me at them being my orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:00 PM
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Do you think that physical attributes are the main reason women reject proposals from men? I am afraid yes. At least it's been like that for me. If I am not even attracted even a bit physically to the man, what's the point? Unless one is ace/aro, relationships involve sex. Often a ton of it in the initial stages. How can you date a person, if the very idea of even kissing them makes you.... let's say uneasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:58 PM
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I understand, but I just dunno what's so indirect about these responses? These are the most common statements used when we reject a man. I mean, I guess you can say, some men are miffed as to why a woman is not interested, but is that so important? A woman doesn't find a man attractive. Why is the reason so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:55 PM
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They are. You cannot be worried that a woman who secretly finds you ugly, is with u coz you are a good provider and at the same time complain that a woman has turned u down coz she finds u unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:50 PM
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Most women if they are not interested will say this. Now, if some men are wilfully obtuse and want to persist, coz they have seen Ryan Gosling win over Rachel McAdams in The Notebook despite being rejected at 1st, that's on them. Most women, including me, don't wanna be cruel while rejecting. I can find the guy very ugly, but I won't demoralise him by saying it. A short, polite, 'Sorry, not interested, your not my type' suffices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:09 PM
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Ah yes blame the woman by default. I definitely didn't see that coming, how silly of me. If a guy has said on 1st date that he is not looking for anything serious and the woman persists, thinking she can be his exception, that's on her. But if the guy has said nothing of the sort, and has in fact gaslighted her into thinking they are in a relationship/exclusive, then yes he's to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:06 PM
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I did imply that context matters. If a woman is telling you she has 0 interest, is telling you as politely as possible that she finds you ugly = Sad, but not exploitative. If a woman is well aware of your feelings, has 0 intention to return them, yet maintains plausible deniability and some ambiguous attitude where you are kept guessing of her feelings towards you, all coz she wants to exploit you in some way, that's of course unforgivable. In the same way: A man telling a woman on 1st date that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:03 PM
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Ask him if he can stomach if she says yes despite not being attracted because he has a good job/inheritance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:44 PM
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Fuckzoned is always done without the woman's prior consent. It's different than FWB/ONS where two people are having a casual sexual encounter with full knowledge that this will probably not be anything serious. Fuckzone is telling a woman lies that you are in a relationship. Telling that you are engaged and it's okay to have sex and then abandoning her the night after. That's dishonourable behaviour. Since you appear to be a bit stupid, let me explain. Friendzone can be two types. One where the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:34 PM
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I mean you can, no one is holding a gun to your head and banning you from complaining. Can an overweight, average woman complain why someone looking like a young Jude Law or Orlando Bloom is not into her? Sure she can. But, it's pointless. Can an ugly, balding 5 feet 2 billionaire over 75 want a pretty, big-boobed and small-waist gf from 25 to 35? Yes. Can he also want that she be in love with him and not his billions? He can, but he certainly won't have it. women keep men in the friendzone only…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:26 PM
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And you don't get to complain about betabuxxing and friendzoning at the same time. A girl if she has no feelings or attraction towards you and makes it clear= friendzoning and what a bitch she is right. But say, she sees you earn $100K annually and says yes, even if she still finds you unattractive. This makes you her betabuxx and she's still being a massive bitch. What do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:30 PM
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Yes, losing a friend, is a tragedy, especially coz making a good friend as an adult is so rare. Having a friend and professional connection is one of the best things you can do. I am sure you won't understand. Fuckzone is different than being friend zoned. Me telling a male friend I am not attracted to him point-blank, with no room for misunderstanding or ambiguity is different than a guy faking commitment to a woman, keeping her in the fuckzone without her knowledge or consent, and putting her …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:28 PM
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Being fuckzoned is way worse than being friendzoned. Sex is not without consequence for women, you know that right? Basic biology, genius. She can get pregnant. She can get AIDS. She can get cervical cancer. Worse, in most cases, the woman doesn't even know she is being fuckzoned by the man. Fuckzone is different than being FWB and ONS. In the latter case, the woman is aware that this is a casual thing with no feelings involved. But in the case of a fuckzone, this is a long-term casual arrangeme…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:20 PM
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I mean, in a twisted way I understand that some men here think getting any sex, no matter how unenthusiastic or low effort it is, is the only thing that matters. I can see why they would think that. But many of the same men dread being a beta bux to some women. That's what confuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:29 PM
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Am not contradicting myself, some RP guys here are. One loser actually whined to me on comments of my post, why do women friendzone men? Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:26 PM
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Well, the last friend whose feelings I did not reciprocate worked in an aligning field and was actually a professional contact. While I understand why he ghosted me afterward, I am a wee bit resentful coz I lost not just a friend, but a professional contact. That's why I think you shouldn't confess to people at your work or whom you rely for networks and contacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:25 PM
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Many RP men absolutely are bitter that their female friend/acquaintance/co-worker doesn't see them as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:18 PM
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I did, and am very much cis. I never belittle or mock anyone who has admitted they have feelings for me. He is not a criminal for having feelings. I just say, "Sorry, not into you like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:16 PM
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RP doesnt care about getting betabuxxed Then why a lot of posts on AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:15 PM
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Some are undoubtedly. I told you that no gender is safe from being petty mofos. Many women though are very gentle and considerate when turning down a proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:50 PM
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They say stuff like "I am not attracted to you,", "You are not my type,", "I don't see you like that." Dunno what is so ambiguous or wishy-washy about these statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:08 PM
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That's as lame as saying Indian men are all ugly with small peepee. See how childish this sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:38 PM
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Some women have exes, some don't. Unless u have peeked into the bedrooms of every unmarried middle class/upper middle class women from 18-35 in India, don't generalise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:37 PM
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Preach. Like I want to believe that maybe the guys who are complaining about friendzone are different to those complaining about betabuxxed, but I think in may cases same men are miffed about both... and that really baffles me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:36 PM
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Not all Indian women sleep around. I haven't, and most of my friends haven't. In AM, you don't expect some Bollywood-style love isshtory anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:28 PM
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Lol. A woman telling you she's not into you and doesn't find u attractive? Dunno how more blatant the rejection could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:51 AM
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Endian? Are you a Paki? Coz pot kettle, kettle pot. Arranged marriage is a thing in ur country too. And I am not denying that the risk of being BBed in AM is huge. But most people getting into AM over the age of 25 are not expecting an idyllic love story anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:47 AM
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Then don't complain of gold-digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:38 AM
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That's why beta bucks is worse than a plain friendzone. With a romantic rejection, you may have some hurt feelings but that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:37 AM
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Then put your big boy pants on and make up your mind! Either you don't wanna be settled for and stop complaining about being friendzoned by uninterested chicks or advocate beta bux arrangements. I thought we, the weaker sex had ''unstable minds'' or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:31 AM
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what if she indeed is an old friend - from school/college?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:27 AM
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Many knuckleheads won't understand this. Like all they see: Well the betabux is still getting unenthusiastic starfish sex once in a blue moon and the woman is still thinking of another man through it all, but, but..... its better than being friend zoned!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:26 AM
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And yes, a woman who is honest-to-God telling you she doesn't find u attractive in least bit, is much much better than the one who still finds you ugly but has agreed to be with u coz you are a good provider. I thought men hated being settled for and anything less than being desired>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:23 AM
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Did u read through my post? I am a former fat girl. You can fuck right off if you think I never had dealt with rejection. But as someone who has been rejected, its way better than being sexzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:18 AM
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Not reading through your word vomit. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:14 AM
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Beta Bux is infinitely more harmful coz it has a long-term financial and psychological impact. You know where you stand with a woman who has made her lack of attraction to you apparent, no ambiguous bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:07 AM
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And is bleeded out of his resources, has unenthusiastic sex, risks getting cheated on and cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:03 AM
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Many men here do. Countless petulant posts and comments from men on how women are heartless fiends for friendzoning them. Men have the right to be pissed at women who use orbiters/rejected suitors for their resources, but getting angry at some woman for just not reciprocating your attraction? That can't even be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:01 AM
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I never said it can't be hurtful. But if the woman is ethical, all that will lead to -maybe some tears and hurt pride. Not ideal, but much better than being deprived of your resources in a loveless relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:57 AM

I mean wasn't RP born basically coz some men weren't a romantic success? Lonely men with little to no love from women are the most fiercest advocates of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:38 AM

I have actually seen many RP men proudly say that they will have starter gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:17 AM
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But if she's not adding value to your life, then dump her. By dragging her along, you are wasting her fertile years. In that case you should let her go so that she can find a man who will marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:59 PM
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I am awkward af too. Well mostly if outside of work. At work I am not awkward at all thankfully. And yes, crowds, loud & overbearing ppl make me anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:56 PM
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But how is your longterm gf making you her 2nd consideration?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:44 PM
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Hmmm... I am an introvert + bookish, eductated, earn enough to sustain myself, in a white collar job and date for marriage. So... someone along those lines. I like clean shaven guys. My type is the somewhat cute nerd I guess. Not unlike Canadian-American mathematician and polyglot Manjul Bhargava. Honest to God prefer him to GQ/Esquire models. And no, this sub doesn't allow links so I guess you will have to Google him if you wanna know what he looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:41 PM
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I am not talking about women with high n-count. A woman who has spent all her youthful years with a guy (7-10 years) is not likely to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:23 PM
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If a woman outrights rejects you on your face rather than beating around the bush, she is not a bitch, but actually more ethical than the girl who has 0 feelings/attraction for you but wants to keep you around coz your an useful idiot or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:19 PM
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Rejecting someone with a firm no is miles better than dangling a maybe before them. That maybe never materialises and is just a platitude to keep you pliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:17 PM
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I have had just one ex-friend who blocked me after I rejected them. I did not give them any hope that one day they may have a shot with me. This may appear to be heartless, but in hindsight much kinder than keeping him around for emotional support or resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:16 PM
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No, the LTR situation is similar to a woman denying a beta bux husband /bf frequent sex. She is not into him, just his money and coz she had no options. And LTR that has gone on for 5+ years is in no shape or form an FWB or a fling. In such a situation, a woman is not being an entitled harridan if she is asking for the ultimate commitment. Fuckzone is an fwb situation, not an actual relationship. Most fwbs has the common sense not to demand commitment or marriage from the man. This is not the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:05 PM
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Coz they are not attracted to them? You can't be serious... as long as she is not using him as a resource, as an agony aunt or as a source of validation, she just rejected him as she was not into him like that? The alternative would be insanely unethical - being with a guy you don't feel a smidgeon of attraction for, just coz he has $$$ or something? I have no doubts some women will do it, but I definitely can't. Rejecting a friend's love offer coz you are not into him romantically, is poles apa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:52 PM
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Yes, some women like that are already married or in LTR for many years, but some are not. Various factors play in to this but that would require a novella and bore the shit out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:40 PM
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Tbh as someone who is a virgin and associate mostly with fellow women who are virgins or been only in 1 or 2 LTR, most of such women will just tell you to fuck off if all you have to offer is one long, indefinite LTR with no prospect of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:30 PM
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But if a woman is virginal or has a body count below 5, isn't it a risk for them to date RP men? I understand why they want such women but such women don't come without a few in-built expectations themselves. I mean most RP men here have told me they have a distaste for marriage and will want to fwb or make someone forever gf for lifelong if possible. Not all, but the vast majority of women who are virginal or low n-count by choice will be traditional , marriage minded, will not be that eager to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:27 PM
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Most are. Some are not. Due to various reasons, but that would bore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:27 PM
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Many RP men remind me of school boys. They want something, but never stop to ponder about the ramifications. I want a woman with low n-count or saving herself for marriage. But she must agree to have sex with me before any LTR or marriage! I want LTR girls with low n-counts, and good wife material. But won't marry them. Jesus Christ, do they even think how embarrassingly contradictory these statements sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:42 PM
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And I explicitly told that the women in this case has "communicated her expectations.." very soon into the LTR. If he knows, has no intentions to marry her, then he no longer has the excuse of plausible deniability. He is straight up stringing her along.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:55 PM
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They are ok. Cheap food, high quantity. What's to hate? A great place to take someone on a 1st date. You don't have to spend much and both of u get a good meal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:52 PM
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Like most RP men venerate a certain type of women - low n, or virginal, not ugly, not relying on him for resources. But such women will not want to do anything with ya'll tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:22 PM
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But Red Pills are interested in cute women who are virginal or with low n-counts, who will most likely want marriage, so where do we go from here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:20 PM
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There's no sub flairs for Red Pill men who are in late 20s and early 30s and interested in marriage. If there were, IK would have used them. In my post, I made it very clear that I am not talking about men who are wholly uninterested in marriage or want just casual sex. Not my fault you didn't read. Again, no one is dragging u to the altar or trying to make you have a change of heart. Most women give a shit if reddit user Gold _Supermarket1956 wants to get married or not. My question was solely …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:14 PM
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I wasn't even talking about guys like you in my post. Did you not read, or are you that bored that you had to respond when the subject has little to do with u?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:07 PM
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I mean, you are free to be an atheist. You don't get to dictate what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:02 PM
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There's nothing wrong being anti marriage. But you don't get to have your cake and eat it. You don't want to get married fine. Then don't complain why the pretty, chaste girl or who had like just two boyfriends, hesitate to date u. Coz, let's just say, to many women like me, a relationship with a guy like u will be a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:01 PM
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Then don't complain that the cute, virginal or n-count below 5 woman refuse you and only thing left are the more ''sluttier'' women who are villainized here. Coz RP are just the male version of 'where the good men have gone?' Like you are surprised that the 'good girls' don't want to be with a guy who doesn't want marriage? No shit, Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:56 PM
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I dunno, many good gfs turn into good wives. You have ''vetted her'' right? At any rate, make your reservations about marriage known to her. You actually have a solid reason, not just some bachelor having cold feet or a fuckboy shunning commitment. You may just find her more sympathetic than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:54 PM
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I find it ironical that RP men shun marriage , but want women who are cute, are virginal or have low n count and not relying on him for finances, has her own shit sorted. Over 90% of such women will be dating to marry. Not all, but a good majority anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:52 PM
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A date and an LTR are poles apart... u know that right? Like if a girl is not into you or willing to sleep with u (assuming she's not very religious) even after 10+ dates, then yes you are entitled to get angry or feel hurt. Same thing in an LTR. A 5 year old relationship where you have moved in, adopted a cat or a dog, gone on trips, have same humour, met each other parents many times over , is still not leading to a marriage? Yes, she has the right to think your shady at the very least
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:37 PM
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I hope your GF knows that marriage is not on the cards. She deserves to know that at least...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:31 PM
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I understand. I won't argue with you, coz you have a valid reason to eschew marriage. I wish you luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:30 PM
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There are churches, mosque and synagogue where state has nothing to do. I mean a good many marriages and divorces are only conducted via churches, synagogues, Shariah courts and Bethdins
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:30 PM
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Pre-Nup exists? Like, just make it known that if she cheats, commits paternity fraud or completely freezes u out of sex, you can get divorced and she won't get anything other than maybe child support if there are kids and you have verified they are yours before signing birth certificate. Trust but verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:27 PM
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Your strategy is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:26 PM
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I mean take your offence with those women.. women are not a hivemind on everything. We agree on some, we may not agree on others. But, if your in a healthy marriage or LTR and are reasonably into each other, having semi regular sex is nothing out of the norm. Of course days when you are sick or mourning a relative's death are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:24 PM
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Many women who are gonna want a marriage, are religious you know that right? Like not all, but safe to say over 85%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:21 PM
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I mean why should a woman with a sound mind expect someone she just went out on a date, to propose marriage to her? That stuff ended at least a 150 years ago. And yes, if you are in an LTR, unless someone is having an illness or going through a rough patch, having sex at least a few times a week, is the norm. Am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:19 PM
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She would need to be a 9 or 10, virgin, ultra feminine, cook clean be very sweet and caring and make an excellent mom. If she existed though, she prolly won't be dating or marrying you. Just being honest. I will make a post later about the type of woman venerated by RP men, will probably want nothing to do with them. Yes, am a virgin. I always lost out on dates coz I avoided that premarital sex thingy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:05 PM
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Why, what? Like won't a guy who is an LTR with a woman expect enthusiastic sex, every day if preferable? She says she loves him, she better prove it! Same thing with women. If he says he loves her, is in an LTR, why is he not whisking her to the Church/Synagogue/Mosque and exchanging vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:00 PM
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I am not being combative. Many Churches and temples just conduct ceremonies with no mention of financial arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:58 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:55 PM
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If a woman is a virgin or low n-count by choice, it means she is probably more religious/traditional. Dating her has its own ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:50 PM
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What is the woman is a bit more religious and traditional than him and doesn't want to have kids out of wedlock? I am not saying his fears are invalid. But many RP men it seems want the cute woman who is either virgin or low n count, is mostly agreeable. But never stop to think, that she will most likely have such considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:48 PM
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If your only arguement is 'wahmen bad' it's not even a valid take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:44 PM
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So many men here are quick to blame LTRs rather than admit they are just having a placeholder gf while waiting for "someone better" .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:39 PM
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Am I supposed to know from your comment that your 22? Like it's very common not to want marriage at that age. Then our discussion ends. However, in case you meet a woman who wants to marry before her 30s, make it known that you are not on the same page . I am not generalizing at all. I am aware some men don't want marriage. Not judging them. Some men only want to smash and not interested in LTR. Not judging them also. But some men want marriage and kids, and are not marrying their LTR who also w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:38 PM
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I am not making any scenarios in my head. And I am not generalising all men, just a subset. Many RP men rant about 'the sluts' and basically make posts that are variations of "where are all the good women?" and then turn around and justify stringing along someone who wants marriage and in LTR with them.. I dunno, maybe women aren't the reason why many such men are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:33 PM
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I see. You only wanna establish 'wahmen bad'. At first many men say it's the woman's fault for not making her intentions for marriage known early on. And when she does , it's still her fault? I mean, if a guy, who has said multiple times that he plans on marriage and kids, and ends up in an LTR with like-minded girl, then yes its his fault for stringing her along, especially if she has told him blatantly of her desire for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:31 PM
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Most of us men are generally just invisible to women lol I mean, if you are willing to string along a decent woman who loves you coz and fake a marriage promise just coz your ''getting some'' on a daily basis, idk you deserve "being invisible'' to women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:26 PM
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If your not chad and still have a steady gf who is genuinely into you, why punish her for some other woman did for chad but not Billy? Women hate "men" because they feel entitled to be chad's wife, and when he doesn't want them they become bitter femcels. Most of us men are generally just invisible to women lol Generalise. Have fun! In such scenarios where a guy is not making a genuine LTR his wife and she wants kids and a husband, she is 100 percent ''entitled'' to hate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:25 PM
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Most honest answer. At least you are not blaming the woman and saying her fault why her LTR is not becoming a marriage and admitting that some guys are just this sleazy shady
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:21 PM
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Then why not tell her that this is not working out? What makes you any different from Stacey who is stringing her Billy Beta bf for his resources? If she is wanting kids, you are also wasting her fertile years. And ya'll wonder why so many women ''hate'' men. At least fuckboy Eric is honest when he said he wasn't looking for anything serious and only wanted to bang. Guys who string women along in LTRs without marriage are cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:19 PM
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I don't about them all, but one of them made her desire for marriage within the first year itself. He can't claim ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:15 PM
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It's not an entitlement. No, woman expects that a guy she just went on a dinner at Nando's with should give her the ring and ask for her hand. But expecting this from a long-term boyfriend is a perfectly valid thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:13 PM
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There are religious marriages which doesn't involve govt you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:11 PM
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If he is into an LTR with her, like a genuine LTR, not an FWB arrangement, then it boggles my mind as to why she is not marriage material. Like I cannot, life of me date someone I don't see marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:10 PM
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If you love her and not just her body and skills in bed, but as a person, then what's stopping her from becoming your wife? Like what separates her from the woman you eventually won't hesitate to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:09 PM
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It's not always a financial advantage. Ya'll are incapable of thinking of anything else. Maybe she wants marriage. A lot of women want that. Maybe she wants kids and having kids out of wedlock is an undesirable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:08 PM
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Isn't 2 years a bit too risky? Like why not 1 year? Just a suggestion. If you both can like each other for 365 days, isn't it a good sign that this can be a good marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:00 PM
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Came across many women with legit boyfriends who strung them along. The Forever GFs are not so uncommon as u think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:52 PM
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But then why not just say, "my dear I am not a marrying man." And let her decide to move on. If a woman wants marriage and has made that clear pretty early in the relationship (yes I say relationship, not just a few dates), she cannot be blamed for his duplicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:50 PM
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At the end of the day, if "being together" is what matters, why not just be together? I respect your stance. But I disagree. I have no issue with men who don't wanna marry ever. They are just not compatible with women like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:48 PM
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I am not talking about fuckboys/players. There are men who talk about sex pretty early on while chatting and are pretty much honest that they just wanna have fun, or at least they are not looking to settle. I am not talking about them. This is a guy who has committed, moved in with this girl, gave her the status of girlfriend and has been together for 6+ years, still doesn't want to marry. And he is not an anti-marriage man by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:45 PM
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I never said the word ''force'' but go on, try to gaslight me. If a man doesn't want marriage, I am not trying to "make him see the light." I am only talking about men who want marriage and have committed to a marriage-minded woman but refuse to move past LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:37 PM
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Engineering? Or BCom?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:48 PM
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Why would it be red flag? Like I didn't date coz I wasn't interested in premarital sex, and I struggled with loads of health issues , ill parents and prioritizing education and job in my 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:44 PM
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There are also plenty of married women who don't work at all. Are they from a good family? Or belong from the dregs of the society? Just coz a lady wants to be a SAHM, doesn't mean she is an illiterate or semi literate lady from Bun Fuck Nowhere and has deadbeat parents or dirt poor family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:43 PM
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And I frankly don't relate to a lot of problems here. When I say am a 31 year old virgin woman interested only in marriage, many here think am from another planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:40 PM
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And to make it worse, to prove that she was not seeing him to her family... she invited him to Raksha Bandhan and tied him Rakhi. Literally couldn't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:36 PM
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Bro, one of my cousins who literally resemble peak Mahesh Babu was left by his longtime gf for a crorepati. Yes, she found him vey hot. But we are upper middle class nowhere near rich, so the moment she got an opportunity to be with a rich guy, she left him. And yes, he went into depression for full 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:34 PM
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Ironically many RP men here don't like to solicit hooker's services coz then she's not with him coz she desires him but coz she is getting paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:44 PM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:06 PM
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That's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:37 PM
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Thank you for your insight. Personally I feel that as human beings, being desired but not respected, and being liked but not desired, both can be jarring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:32 PM
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Men do have the girl's socio-economic status in mind when it comes to marriage. They are generous with the dick. In that sense, they don't care of the woman is employed, homeless, rich or destitute, a beauty or barely average. But when it comes to putting a ring on her finger and giving her his name? Yes he becomes more mindful of all of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:31 PM
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You are in India. At least 600 million women fit this profile. Somehow almost all end(ed) up married. Yes, mostly to men of their own class. Maybe some of these guys are brilliant and end up getting a good education and a job eventually, but that does not negate what am saying. Now if Susan is cute, will Roy, who earns $500K a year and has come for a meal attempt to get her number? Sure. Does he wanna bang her? Yep. Does he wanna wife her? No, he most likely doesn't. Men don't discriminate much …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:24 PM
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Now I get it. Well I don't really get it, coz am a woman, but thanks for the insight to how some men would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:20 PM
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Even if you could sense she was routinely condescending to you coz of your perceived dumbness or lack of social status? Just the fact that she finds you cute will make up for the lack of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:15 PM
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If I were into social status, I would have been chasing men who earn 3 times what I do. But I am not. I would not do so. Coz marrying someone way out of your league has its problems. It's not selfish or unreasonable to want to marry from your own social segment. Even men don't do that. Just coz many are perfectly content to have sex with Susan the McDonald's worker with only a HS degree, doesn't mean they will marry her. At least I am not doing the same with Bob the mechanic. I know its pointles…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:05 PM
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And am not saying you are not valid in being hurt. Then, surely you can understand why I would take offense if a man only wants me for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:46 PM
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You are separating between women I have sex, women I date, women I would marry. Sure, you can have sex with cute Susan with dimples and nice tits who works at McDonalds. But you sure as hell wouldn't marry her. Be honest. As am not a.) looking for flings, fwbs and am dating to marry, ensuring all these things are mandatory. I am not having sex with anyone I can't see myself marrying. Capiche?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:44 PM
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I am a woman so maybe the gender hoohoo is making me biased but hear me out: I find a man is with me coz I have a good job only? Heartbreaking. I find he is just with me for the sex? Heartbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:38 PM
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Social status is not big for me. I am only looking for men in my social status, not above. I am educated, upper middle class and earn moderately well. I
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:34 PM
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I understand. I know many RP/BP are saying they want to be treated like the himbo/pool boy, who is desired but not respected, but I don't know how many of em will actually handle being treated like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:29 PM
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Being solely valued for one thing whether it be social status or body is not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:27 PM
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Men at least the RP ones only know women who are condescending to the guy who they find unattractive but 'stable'. They don't even know that many women, especially from the elite sections of society would see attractive men from lower/poorer sections of the society as literally disposable pieces of meat. Yes, she finds him attractive. She also finds him dumb as bricks and not fit for polite company. I know many men are saying they want to be in the 2nd guy's position, but I dunno if they will ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:26 PM
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I get this is what many men feel, or at least like to think they feel. But they are essentially saying they want to be treated like crap/bottom of the barrel or be spoken down to, as long as the woman finds them sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:20 PM
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And if all of RP/Black Pills are correct, why did my handsome male cousin get so depressed when his long time gf left him to marry a richer guy? She was evidently quite into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:14 PM
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You said women who want marriage/commitment are so as they are entitled, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:12 PM
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I am only speaking for women like me, not men. Btw, I would rather remain celibate rather than be someone's fwb, booty call. No, not even if he is a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:07 PM
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Thanks for being the sanest comment here. Like, if you are not solely into casual, I don't get at how being reduced to booty call will not be depressing, or at least jarring in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:04 PM
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No, its just priorities and self respect. Women who are solely into casual sex won't mind being in the ''fuckzone''. Someone like me wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:02 PM
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So, ya'll will tolerate outright disrespect, classicism, condescension as long as she seems to find you desirable? I see. Like she thinks and even doesn't hide that she thinks you are prolly a bit 'simple'/pathetic/LVM (when it comes to social status), not 'worthy' to be seen in her proximity publicly, but hey it doesn't matter, coz she thinks you are hot. I will never understand (some) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:57 PM
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Ah so some of them do care, lol. You know what's funny? These guys would probably brag to their 'homies' that they were the 'one that got away' and made you a 'plate'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:52 PM
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I guess this is the difference between men and women. If some guy told me this, I would probably have burst out crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:51 PM
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Your a journalist. I am talking about a celeb. Or a model. Or a fashion photographer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:49 PM
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Do you work in media in any capacity? Then dating a small time model, an aspiring actress, a screenplay writer is not uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:19 PM
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Is she retired from showbiz completely? That changes things a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:17 PM
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Hope ur joking. If not, your a public menace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:22 PM
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I hope you stay away from people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:00 PM
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He might not, coz seeing the kid often would also mean = meeting & being cordial to his mom, his ex-wife. Not a man, but seeing and interacting with someone who had betrayed you, and who you dearly want to strangle maybe... won't be great for your mental health. Also, it may not be safe for the ex-wife & the child. Not all people have a strong moral values and a regard for human life.... and being betrayed to this extent will strip away all their humanity .... get where am going?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:57 PM
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By morality or laws I hope you don't resort to a crime of passion and kill your erring wife & kid. Coz, nothing justifies taking away a human life, unless someone was about to rape or murder you...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:47 PM
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I mean technically it's possible. Some women who have undergone surgical menopause or have Premature Ovarian Failure and their ovaries have gone or are dysfunctional, but their uterus is healthy, they can opt for a donor egg. But that's a different matter altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:34 PM
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Right? I am sure no one would fault a woman for not being a 'mom' to her stepchildren or refusing to raise I dunno a child that has been fathered by her husband by his mistress.,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:08 PM
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Dating single moms is a separate issue. That involves a conscious choice. Most mature men do realise the ramifications of dating a single mom. That's not the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:32 PM
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You have neglected a whole class of people- Those who want kids but only those who share their genes. These ppl exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:17 PM
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This sub doesn't allow any links sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:56 PM
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But such people are trying to gaslight wronged people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:50 PM
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That's fair. Make sure she doesn't get a cent of your money!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:49 PM
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But you have no empathy for the rape victim? Or a man who has been exploited? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:32 PM
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Except a mom will most likely never find that her teen kid is not hers. If somehow she finds he is switched and she decides to tell him and send him away to an orphanage or something? Her decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:31 PM
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Also there are people who would attack her for that. Lots of rape victims do not get as much sympathy as you think, even in today's world. And they would be criticised. Short of extremely conservative or religious fanatics, most wouldn't. Unwanted parenthood is traumatic. Most reasonable people would understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:30 PM
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There's an entire post on this sub trying to gaslight such men into raising kids that aren't theirs and throwing aspersions on their character and humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:27 PM
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But why should you disapprove? In some ways the cuckolded man being judged for not wanting to raise a kid that's not his, is asking a rape victim to be a mom to her infant. No one in their right mind would question a rape victim's decision to give up the kid to an orphanage or adoption and attack her humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:20 PM
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I am in many respects very liberal. However, I disagree with progressives on quite a few things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:12 PM
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Don't generalise. I am a woman and I am solely on the side of men who don't want to raise kids that are not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:06 PM
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Bi women like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:20 PM
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the pic is not loading btw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:54 PM
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Bi women = uglier men? Lol what even
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:42 PM
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I have based my conclusions both on seeing who my friends date and by the opinions shared by women in that sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:41 PM
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This is not anecdotal. Just go to the bisexual sub on Reddit, most women detail their tastes in men there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:18 PM
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This does. On an average, I have seen bi women date men who are not so much into the trapping of conventional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:11 PM
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Not all bi women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:06 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:01 PM
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You are putting words I never said in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:53 PM
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How am I being extreme? I completely understand why most men would be at least hesitant to date a former sex worker. How's this any different? If most of your sexual encounters have been transactional it really affects how you look at sex. Not to mention risk of STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:21 AM
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Go to a psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:34 PM
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Nah, I have no problems dating a bi man providing he is monogamous. Not all bi guys are into hookups. His last LTR may have been another guy. If he tells me that, why should that bother me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:06 PM
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Sugar baby in a way is a bit more ethical than human traffic victims. Many sugar babies have patrons coz they wanna have a lifestyle beyond their means. They want that Gucci bag or Ferragamo stiletto ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:20 PM
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No, I don't as in, I don't consider them devils bound for hell by default. However, if I come to know that some man has used services of an escort even after he had come to know she is a victim of trafficking? Like I dunno, you tell me, why should I have any respect for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:18 PM
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I don't judge men automatically for soliciting an escort's service, other than not regarding him as dating material. But... there's a possibility that he had been with someone who was trafficked. There are some ethical Johns who confirm that their provider is not a trafficked person, but they are a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:31 PM
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Where in the post have I said that prostitution or soliciting an escort's services should be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:39 PM
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I will. Coz am a virgin myself. As long as he doesn't judge me for being a 30 year old virgin and is realistic enough to understand that sex with me will not be bombastic and wild as he has seen in porn, why won't I date him, if there's mutual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:38 PM
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I would expect someone who’s previously paid for sex to be entitled and inconsiderate in bed since he’s used to getting whatever he wants in a very transactional manner. You summed up my post in such a succinct manner. Being a seasoned John really affects your sexual attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:36 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:34 PM
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Also not all sex workers are women who voluntarily chose the profession for some extra money or to afford a lifestyle they otherwise couldn't. It also involves human trafficking. If I come to know a man has primarily been with escorts, there's always the possibility that he has been with someone who is a victim of trafficking/flesh trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:28 PM
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Sex work is a valid option if you don't have qualifications for a 'normal' job. But at the same time, I also understand that sex workers are not dating material for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:25 PM
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There's still fear of STDs. Although they are not synonymous, men who frequent escorts and men who have extremely violent and niche kinks often overlap. And not without reason... Like say... you are into group sex. Or have a kink of knife play. Or extreme anal. Most regular women will not be entertaining those fantasies... An escort, however, will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:24 PM
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I am not judging a man who is using service of an escort. As long as the escort is above age, his business. But would I date such a man whose sexual experience has been mostly escorts? Nope. Coz if he can get a woman to engage in I dunno blood play or something for $$$, he will tire of me, an average, ordinary woman, with very vanilla approach to sex very soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:11 PM
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He is not even the most illustrious/popular Broadway star. And in terms of status and wealth, he is definitely not her match. So no provider theory. Coz if Ariana had to have a provider, she would have settled for a tech billionaire or studio boss or something
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:04 PM
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Most famous women absolutely do choose men who are at par with them status-wise or above.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:06 PM
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But men like Slater do exist. Below average (coz I have seen average-looking white guys and they are better looking than Slater), not much money, but 'punching above their weight' in partners. Coz they make her laugh or something. And Slater's ex-wife is also a looker. Tall, fit, nice face, devoted to him, bore his kid. He left her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:03 PM
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This is not just about not being an A-lister. Her ex husband Dalton Gomez is definitely more conventionally attractive than her current bf. But she still cheated on him with Slater. How do ya'll explain that? I am pretty sure she is not 'settling' coz she sees him as a provider or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:56 PM
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It depends on what the situation is, shouldn't it? If a date doesn't work out and she says let's be friends, or you approach her on FB/Tinder and she says let's be friends, block her. But if she is actually a friend, someone you have been friends with since school or college, she probably will feel hurt if you suddenly avoid her. Most women, at least, the well-adjusted, normal ones, we cherish our friends, and if one suddenly acts distant, we will always wonder if we hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:39 PM
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I am a woman. I am sure Timothee Chalamet, young Leonardo DiCaprio, James Dean, young Shah Rukh Khan, are/were all very cute. Contrary to what many of ya'll think, to many women cute is not = seeing you as a little brother. Cute means = you are a wholesome guy I would like to bang and play house with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:14 PM
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I mean you can have some bad luck with exes, maybe you have been cheated once or twice. Or been through DV. That is sadly common and you shouldn't be judged. But, if every single one of your past LTR/marriage ended on bad terms, and if all of your exes are the bad guys/girls.... shouldn't a prospective date at least wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:57 AM
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Not exactly nice girls, but speaking as a woman, many feminists (especially 3rd wave/intersectional) do try to critique men's dating preferences. Like, people should be answerable for their dating preferences is a thing in many left-wing circles online. Now, unless someone is a kiddie fiddler or into beastiality or incest, why should they be ''held accountable'' for whom they want to date? Mind you, I am nowhere saying that people should be assholes to those that don't pass their attraction metr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:55 AM
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Native Americans were a community. As were Jews. But on an individual basis, if everyone hates you... or at least finds you unbearable... the problem is not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:49 AM
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And some ppl openly are extremely resentful of opposite gender. One of my male friends have gone full incel after his divorce and now thinks all women are selfish and only after his money. With such mentality, how can he expect to get dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:00 PM
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Depends what tough time is. You having not much luck with women is one thing. But all of your exes are gold digging hussies who drained your bank accounts ? Or all of em left you for someone else? How's that not a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:58 PM
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No, I just meant it as a rebuttal. Men & women who claim they have been wronged by every woman or man they ever dated is a walking red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:50 PM
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There are no health conditions that make you over eat, but there are conditions that make weight loss difficult. https://www.webmd.com/obesity/features/why-arent-you-losing-weight Ofc that's no excuse, not to at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:34 PM
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I didnt just rely on drugs. I went to the gym too. Ya'll can't read or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:33 PM
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I never gave any excuse. And took steps to get rid of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:32 PM
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Semaglutide and gym. I have a health condition that makes weight loss difficult. I was offered the option of bariatric surgery but didn't want it. So this was the next, best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:24 PM
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I lost 40 kgs in 11 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:20 PM
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Both will do. I am surprised my writing gave m away. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:58 PM
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Maybe she was raised in a conservative background. Maybe she had self-esteem issues. Not all women bloom into their best in their 20s. And dating when you have self-esteem issues, is a recipe for disaster. Maybe she had to work on them. Maybe, she was too busy in education or a job. Where am from, men spend maybe the 1st 30 years of their life on education and financial stability, so why wont women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:57 PM
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I do reside in UP, but am originally from WB.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:54 PM
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Arre, haha, aapko kaise pata hum India se hain? Honestly, a lot of problems here look so alien to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:40 PM
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It does. Not everyone from '3rd world nations' are naturally skinny or engages in hard labour. Bad lifestyle choices exist even here among the middle class, upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:16 PM
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Never gonna see a fat person on a deserted island or 3rd world country. You'd be surprised lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:13 PM
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Well, me and another obese friend started hitting gym + Semaglutide last year and had great success shedding a ton of weight and looking MUCH better than we ever did in my life, so am not much bothered about alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:06 PM
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Who says I am deceiving? I said many of us were ugly/below average in our 20s. In what context? In what scenario? What is my age? I am in late 30s, working with a woman 2 years younger. If she came up to me and said, "I'm a virgin", my reaction would have been "Good for you, go back to your workplace or whatever, I am busy". And why would a female colleague even mention that in the office? I assure you, most women, at least in my country, will not mention sex in professional environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:02 PM
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I am a woman. And I am maybe making fun of RP men's language lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:34 PM
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You do. I went from landwhale to slightly overweight in months with Semaglutide tablets + a great gym. I am still in the process of becoming truly slender, but I know I will get there. Of course, it took me to eat much less, but without Semaglutide, I wouldn't have lost weight so fast. Semaglutide is crazy expensive in my country. Plus quality gyms are also expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:34 PM

Yeah. Remember feeling angry with Alcott for not marrying Jo to Laurie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:44 PM

Amy is a relatively minor character. And btw her pairing with Laurie was a big shock to readers. 90% of us were rooting for Laurie and Jo. Tbh, in TRP terms, Laurie 'settled' for Amy. I am sure he found her attractive enough, but to Jo, his attraction was physical, intellectual, and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:13 PM

Coz Darcy is handsome, but not promiscuous, or sociable. He is standoffish, sanctimonious and patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:12 PM

Laurie is a Chad. George Osbourne is Chad. Francis Troy is Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:10 PM

I did say she doesn't marry Laurie. No one here has read my post. That's why I took that book as an example. Like as per TRP, Laurie is the 'Chad'. But she does not marry or even love the Chad. She falls for a man more than a decade older and not as handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:52 PM

Mr Darcy wasn't a Chad though. Like, yes he was very handsome and arrogant, but was shown to be quite honorable. Darcy's acquaintance Wickham, who eventually elopes with the heroine Elizabeth's sister Lydia fits the Chad archetype better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:39 PM
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Maybe he wanted that itch, that FOMO out. I am a woman and was once crazy curious about parties and visiting clubs and discos in my teen years. I actually went to a few in college and the experience was underwhelming. I think its easy to fantasize about something and later discover its not as great as you thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:42 PM

In all these stories, the woman falls for the 'Chad', gets hurt, and finally realizes she will be happiest with that well-meaning male friend, who had always looked out for her. Or the readers think she will fall for the dashing and handsome male suitor but surprisingly ends up with someone more homely. Read the 2nd paragraph. I also wrote that in LW, readers think in the beginning that she would end up with Laurie but she finds her forever with someone who is completely opposite to Laurie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:40 PM

Yes, I added an addendum. Completely forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:25 PM
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Was. Got my shit together and hit the gym and got on Oral Semaglutide. Went from landwhale to slightly overweight. Lost more than 85 lbs. in 11 months. Hopefully will shed the rest. Good riddance. Dunno how are here like me, but I wasted my 20s in another way. Was the antagonistic loner, a truckload of self-esteem issues, ill parents, food addiction, and trying to prioritise education and job. Not fit for any kind of dating. Starting my 30s, and now am financially stable, have a 'career', and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:05 PM
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He is more of an A.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:47 PM
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Not really. He has no facial features I feel drawn to. Not a single one. I cant tell him this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:32 PM
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Who said I dont call them out on their bs? I did call him out when he was crossing lines, acting too nosy, too pushy was not minding his tongue. But no, I wont ever tell someone, especially a friend, what makes him unfuckable. You are not my type is a very clear, blatant statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:30 PM
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I cant really disparage anybody's looks. Especially in this case, its not got much to do with his weight, body. I dont like his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:27 PM
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Maybe. But am not the woman who can do that. This is the equivalent of kicking someone who is already injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:25 PM
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I messaged him frequently. He is now hostile. All coz I rejected him and didn't meet him when I visited my hometown. I was in no state to meet him, as my dad had heart surgery and I was there only to check on him. And even though were are not together have never been anything but platonic, he has at times acted entitled and insecure if I went out for an outing with office friends that include men. All this insecurity, these temper tantrums, I may have had tolerated them if he was my SO. But he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:19 PM
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I am not saying I find them only attractive, I am just providing examples. Like, I dunno what you even want me to say. If a woman asks what type of women you are more drawn to, and you share the photo of Emma Stone that will be a signal - red haired, freckled chicks are your jam
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:45 PM
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This depends on personal tastes, what pop culture you consume tbh. The guy does not need to have a face sculpted by the Greco Roman Gods. Personally, I love cute faces rather than so-called handsome ones. I think guys with amazing eyes, large and soulful is soooo cute. One cute feature is enough to carry the rest of his face even if unremarkable. I dunno why the face is so underrated in determine someone's sex appeal. If you cant stand someone's face, how will you kiss them, you still have to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:40 PM
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Why so hostile to me? And there are no black neighborhoods in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:51 PM
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I see. "it is over" crowd, what does this mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:17 PM
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But I did not even mention any other man to him... how will he even know if I am getting creampied or having wild monkey sex in a barn or something? Lol. Where I come from, women never talk about sex to platonic male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:55 PM
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And I find many celebs like Jesse Eisenberg, Michael Cera etc who are on the shorter side, cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:46 PM
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5 7 height is inconsequential if you have a good face. At least to me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:45 PM
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Where am from, most women will religiously avoid speaking about anything sexual no matter how mild with men who are not husband, boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:32 PM
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I mean sure, we do. But with other women. Not men. But the again, am not from the US, so maybe I cant speak for what women do in your culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:31 PM
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I understand. Hopefully some women will have no filter when you ask her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:29 PM
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And plenty of attractive men and women also get divorced. Or get cheated on too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:28 PM
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You dont have to look like Michelangelo's David to get dates. Just the person should find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:27 PM
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Here's a secret. Not my type is codeword for dont find you attractive. Most women dont really want to be this evil bully who wants to hurt the men who have approached her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:26 PM
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So the only use a woman can have for a man is what's between her legs? I dont think you have had mother, aunts, sisters, close friends who are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:13 PM
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If confiding some of our personal crises to someone who you trust to be non-judgemental is 'attention seeking', that's an extremely warped view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:12 PM
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You may, you may not. Lack of physical attraction is not always tied to weight, although it can be. And even if it is 'weighty issues' that are the reason for lack of attraction, you dont know the individual well enough to pass judgments. Many ppl have underlying health conditions that can't just lose it. Also, I firmly believe that making someone feel worthless over appearance is terribly cruel Doing so is kinda rubbing salt in a wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:09 PM
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Dunno why, maybe am just weird, but a man's face is more important to me than his body. He can have a dad bod lol, but if he has a nice face, I might get attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:07 PM
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Way to generalise but ok. I did not demand or receive any bf services from him. Unless you consider lending a patient, sympathetic, non-judgemental ear to your issues 'bf service'. But guess what? I did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:58 AM
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Thing is... I didn't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:12 AM

Its not to do with his weight. I dont like his face. And no, I would never, in a million years tell him that. Cant bring myself to be so callous. If that makes me a coward, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:14 AM
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I won't do it coz I know I will feel devastated if a guy I liked told me shit like he would jump off a cliff, than share a kiss with me. Why dehumanize someone like that? Kindness costs nothing bro Also, why make someone feel like shit over something they cant change? Its like making fun of someone for having a crooked nose. You can, but why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:38 AM
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I won't tell anyone how unattractive they are. I just say not interested, not my jam. There's another reason why I dont, but it would bore you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:28 AM
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But these statements are honest. Like what is so ambiguous about the You Are Not My Jam statements? Most women I think believe in treating others the way they like to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:23 AM
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I was not at all subtle in establishing that I was only interested in friendship. I refused all offers to go on dates to expensive restaurants. Refused to even let him pay. No date, no pay. The few times, he tried to flirt, I firmly steered conversation away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:02 AM
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No husband. And if I had one, why would I be sharing that with him? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:50 AM
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But if you get someone to assuage your loneliness, just their companionship doesn't include sex, is it so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:44 AM
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But this guy had a female friend who cared for him. Still do. I just dont wanna fuck him is all. That has no bearing on his standing as an individual to me. In the end, he ended the friendship. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:12 AM
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if he can lower his standards and is not like Qasimodo in appearance, why can't he find?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:19 PM
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No, as per the post, guy's father has willed that he wont inherit anything unless he producers heirs. I cant link this without getting blocked here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:45 PM
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Nah. But there's actually a very viral Reddit post of a self confessed gold digger. Cannot link it as alas PPDB doesnt allow
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:24 PM
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This sub has a lot to say about virgin or relatively inexperienced guys in their 30s, but not much about their female counterpart- women like me. A lot of us become swan only after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:41 PM
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I am just explaining why nature of friendship can change at times. Since many guys here hope that the girl they have crush on will one day see him as more than friend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:39 PM
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I am taking Rybelsus. The oral form. It helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:33 PM
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Wait, you are a woman? Oooh, thought you were a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:25 PM
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I am amused by how this sub thinks all women spent their 20s getting creampied by Chads. That women who did not have much sex, if any in their young adult phase, were too occupied with other stuff like education, dealing with familial crises, abuse or poor health to even bother about dating, exist, never occurs to ya'll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:21 PM
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I eat much less. Although still cheat now and then. Old eating habits seldom die. Visit gym 5 days a week. Also Ozempic pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:19 PM
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I am one of the 3. Went from 120 to 70, still in process of losing. Hopefully I can now spend my 30s far attractive than what I was in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:12 PM
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What self-respecting man wants to wait for a woman friend to “see the light?” Many do. Else who are the orbiters? I only learned about them here. Yes, that happens. Or maybe she was not single when you 1st knew her. Maybe she thought you were kina cute and sweet, but chose not to dwell overmuch, coz she was spoken for then. Maybe you were not her physical type then. Maybe you lost weight, groomed yourself and now she finds you attractive. Why is just one scenario stuck in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:08 PM
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Nah, they were like 150kgs. Went from 150 to 60. 3 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:24 PM
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I dunno, the post explained the situation. I want to link it, but my posts gets deleted when I do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:23 PM
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He doesn't want to? Maybe he wants kids of his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:00 PM
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Prostitute may have STDs. And from the post, she seems to be a young, pretty women with fairly low body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:59 PM
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He needs legitimate kids to become legible for inheritance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:57 PM
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In this case, he needed to marry as his inheritance is contingent on having a legitimate offspring or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:57 PM
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I never said you will have to accept women who rejected you before. In fact many women themselves don't want to date guys who rejected them when they were 'plainer', so why should yall differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:55 PM
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Where did I pass value judgements? I just observed something that I have seen happening. Dont shoot the messenger yall
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:38 PM
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What? That sounds insane... Are you sure, she never had any feelings towards you? Did you have a glow up? Coz, otherwise it makes no sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:36 PM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:00 PM
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she likes you but for some reason she doesn't feel attracted to you Isn't that what being a friend is like? You dont want to bang em, but you do think he is a good man and you want to be his friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:31 AM
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Am sorry lol. If I were a man or a WLW, I would have asked you out on a date :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:43 PM
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Have you observed the men that chose them? Maybe the single men who are similar are your match
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:41 PM
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Do you know if they have any social circle from where they have met ppl. Maybe that will be your dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:29 PM
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It may drive off the woman whos not into it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:41 AM
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You haven't found Christian men of other ethnicity or immigrants ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:33 AM
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A crush is a feeling. You can think Raj from Accounts has a great face, or Betty from Marketing has eyes to die for. You can get a bit sad coz Raj and Betty are also 'off the market' and have a silly daydream where they were single and you 'had a chance'. And then go your way. Not that difficult. Many ppl dont understand this. Just because you have a thought, an opinion, doesn't mean you have to say it loud. Just coz you have an unholy thought about a married person, doesn't mean you have to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:55 PM
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Disagree. Attraction, like repulsion, is instinctive. We are animals still you know. However, unlike wild animals, humans are not slaves of their instincts. They can overcome baser impulses, if they desired. Like say, you want to kill someone you hate. Would you do it? No. Your moral code will stop you from turning your thoughts into action.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:32 PM
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Not broke. Having a $60-90K annually is more than enough. That's the average income anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:17 PM
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Also, take notice, is he rich? Coz $$$ also changes the story a LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:39 AM
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In my culture, I am considered bang in the middle. Tbh, one of the major reason why I am not considered ugly in my country is due to colorism. I am relatively light-skinned for my ethnicity, and in my country, lightskin= not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:14 PM
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Nah she isn't. In her youth, she was pretty hot. I am straight and even developed a girl crush on her in her Desperado and From Dusk To Dawn phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:03 PM
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How come? Are all of your friends unhappily married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:10 PM
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I am a Hindu indeed. But funnily enough, Muslims and Christians of India and South Asia in general usually have arranged marriages too. I know many Christians here won't believe it, but most of my Christian friends in India had arranged marriages. Arranged by their parents, relatives and the parish. If you look at it critically, in a way, it's rather easy to be a practicing Christian and Muslim in India. Our social norms regarding marriage and family gels quite nicely into Christian and Islamic …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:58 PM
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Oh. I see. Well, at least in the upper middle-class strata, couples are supposed to be respectful to each other, at least in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:52 PM
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Dunno about rest of Europe, but I daresay, an Oxford/Cambridge/LSE grad and someone from say University Of Hertfordshire will have wildly different career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:50 PM
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It can be a success if you keep in mind that it may not lead to you finding the love of your life, riding off into the sunset. You might, but it's no guarantee. Also, just mentioning... in my culture, since we are a lot of conservative than the Anglosphere, many times the woman will be accompanied by chaperones and the parents may not be okay with the two of you 'dating' in the conventional sense. Moreover, the time of meeting and getting married is usually short. If you and the prospective groo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:48 PM
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And yet, she was married not once but thrice. So no lack of suitors. One of them, was even a successful comedian. You know what, she would have made a good dating coach for women like me. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:33 PM
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I come from a culture where arranged marriage is the norm. And while it can be great for people who area misfit in dating system in many ways, it's even more ruthless than the US dating scene. In many ways, when it comes to AM, you may have to set expectations low. Although some AM couples do fall in love, many dont and enter into a sort of cordial arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:31 PM
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I Googled her. She has been married thrice, cant exactly say she lacked options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:28 PM
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But even the most empathetic person can't really give real dating and career advice to people who are widely different from them. Like say, you are a Stanford grad. No matter how empathetic and socially well-adjusted you are, your career tips won't work out for your friend who has graduated from some university ranked out of the top 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:34 PM
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But shouldn't it make you more hopeful? Like, say you are from a tier 2 business school. You came across an alumni who landed an internship on Wall Street. That should give you some hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:27 PM
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Depends on what they are saying. Value judgments like killing off LGBT is bad? Pedophilia is bad? Of, those statements are true, regardless of who is saying them. But say, a Harvard MBA grad is saying a podcast about how he landed the coveted $500K job through a certain rizz and confidence. Yeah sure Sam, your sparkling eyes toothpaste smile, and invisible rizz made you stand out apart from 2K applicants. His advice will be valuable for a Stanford MBA grad. Not for you, if you have completed an …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:24 PM
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Never said the message didn't matter. But who is giving it, is also significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:06 PM
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Nah, if the advice comes from someone who is, or has been in your shoes at least, it is most useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:03 PM
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The advice will be more valuable if the said best friend is not too different from you in terms of attractiveness and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:01 PM
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Messenger is also important. Else Marie Antoinette wouldn't have gone down in history for telling starving Parisians : Eat cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:00 PM
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I am 31. I am sad, I don't have a husband yet, and I have some health problems which may make it impossible. Am I a bit sad whenever I attend a friend's wedding? Sometimes yes. But not really devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:41 PM
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If she didn't have the hots for the bridegroom or the bride, why would she be devastated? Now, she may feel a bit sad, that she hasn't found anyone yet, but that would be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:16 PM
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Not comparable. putting a slice of cheese in your mouth is an action, and is within our hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:12 PM
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No, I wouldn't. If he can cheat on his wife, he will cheat on me too. It's inevitable. Not an if, but rather when.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:19 AM
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But isnt you are not my type a very explicit statement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:14 AM
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Word.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:15 PM
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Then don't be shocked if you too get cheated on by them. Humans are creatures of habit. A murderer will murder again. A cheater will cheat again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:10 PM
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Most men are married. Most people look average so... I think people here are inflating two very different dating experiences dating experience of the average Joe, and truly ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:40 PM
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Men and women do sometimes find people attractive that they didn’t in the past. In most cases, this involves people who were considered a bit chubby and had a bit of a glow-up. This does not apply to men like say Danny Devito. A woman who looks like say Charlize Theron is not very likely to say yes to someone who looks like Devito. If she does, there's always something involved, and that something will be money in 9/10 cases. I guess a woman can look over lack of attraction if the guy has enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:15 PM
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I am just thinking as a person with a healthy sense of ego. Asking someone out even after they turned you down... being rejected again and again... must not bode well for self esteem and mental health. We are humans not robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:10 PM
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Maybe I will never get this perspective. If a woman has told you in no uncertain terms that she is not into you, why try again? You are not my type is a very honest answer. A succinct, yet polite way of letting someone know you don't find them attractive. Coz lets be honest, if a woman does not find you attractive, she is not very likely to give you a chance. Even if you have other plus points like personality or a high-paying job, I will say this A good personality, while doubtlessly attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:53 PM
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Miracles can happen. Having a woman be into you after she isn't, is a bit like beating the odds of surviving stage 3 cancer. Sure it's possible, but not probable. It will be more beneficial for your mental wellbeing to take a woman's verbal rejection at face value, rather than wait around and hoping it turns into a yes someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:10 PM
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It's great you take rejection at face value. Most women don't want to be assholes. I sure as hell don't. Even if I am turned off by a mans looks and this is the reason behind my no, I wouldn't want to tell him that. Why make a person feel like shite over something they can't change So I say, you are not my type. Thankfully most men in my experience, are not as stupid as pop culture pretends they are, and they perfectly understand what that statement alludes to. Only one guy- my former friend, di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:02 PM
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Sure. But they also want it from men they are attracted to. Some women also have BDSM fetish. Or have rape fantasy. But they sure as hell wont consent to being tie up and dicked down by a man they find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:50 PM
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A woman saying you are not her type is as honest as can be. Look, unless the woman is Miranda Priestly from Devil Wears Prada i.e - a mean, unscrupulous waste of space with no empathy to speak of , she won't say stuff like how you should look into the mirror before thinking you have a chance with her, or how ridiculously, hopelessly, irredeemably ugly you supposedly are. Gods, even I am wincing as I write such words. No way would I make someone feel so worthless of themselves. I do have a heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:47 PM
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It’s probably because of the social adage of times bygone where women wanted a man to “chase them” Some women do. But it's not a hard and fast or sacrosanct rule. For those who do, it's just a form of powerplay. It's a type of courtship ritual some women exercise. Some women do like to be chased. But it's always from a guy they find attractive. If a man they are not attracted to gets relentless in the chase and doesn't stop even after they say no, it's not a chase for these women. It's like a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:28 PM
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Women are more visual than you think. Moreover, my "standards" are pretty basic. I have no problems marrying someone not considered conventionally attractive. I am not expecting a dreamboat. I have no problems dating someone who is average to look at. I guess you have understood what am trying to say. I don't want to say anything more, coz it would sound really rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:01 PM
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Nah. I am pretty primitive in my references. Whether a man's face is attractive to me, or not It's pretty black and white with no room for grey. And the men I have rejected were my former friends. If I was attracted to them, I would have made it very clear lol. If I find a man's face ugly, I ain't gonna find him attractive in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:54 PM
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Women are indecisive folks. Also, pretty unassertive Be careful with that assumption. While some women like to lay mind games and enjoy the chase, even they want that from a guy they are attracted to. In the vast majority of cases, when a woman is saying you are not her type, she is saying she doesn't find you attractive. And no, if I find a guy unattractive, he won't suddenly feature in a wet dream tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:38 PM
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What's that supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:52 PM
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Most of the time, women rejecting you are telling you the truth. You are not my type, don't see you like that, not interested in you, these are very clear-cut statements with little room for ambiguity. Most women don't want to be cruel about how unattractive they find someone. And why make someone feel like shit about their appearance? Kindness costs nothing. So, a polite, you are not my type, is sufficient in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:42 PM
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Hopefully you find someone!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:30 PM
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There's a difference between hesitation and reluctance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:26 PM
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Money? Depends on how much they are asking. And if they can pay back. But the same rule would apply to female friends. If they ask for $500K loan, ofc I don't have that much money myself, so how can I give it. I have lent money to one male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:02 PM
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It is a moral failing yes. Being unable to have any equation with the opposite gender other than romance or fraternal relationship is a moral failing. I have been able to have friendships with men. One of them was a married guy who I found very attractive btw. But that was my problem. I did not make it their fault, nor allow it to affect our friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:59 PM
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Because I have seen many such men in my culture! Men who are unable to be friends with women are plenty where I come from. Many such men have told me they believe that men and women cant be friends, and since I know their backgrounds, they have some things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:48 PM
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I know it's difficult for you to comprehend, but there is a category of men who are unable to have non platonic relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:42 PM
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Male colleagues and friends often drive us home. It is a group outing. No one thinks they have been used. We have also turned baby sitters for their kids at times. people do stuff for each other if they are friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:40 PM
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I am not applying moral failing to a whole demographic. Many men I knew were not like this. Just a very specific kind of men. They genuinely believed a man and woman cannot be friends because they haven't interacted much with women beyond family or marriage. Since they regard all if not most women outside of the family as romantic prospects, they tend to miscalculate all gestures of compassion, and empathy as romantic interest. One of my former friends is a divorcee. His ex-wife is the first tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:32 PM
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Thank you for being so understanding. These type of guys get so outraged that they "put in the effort" without "getting anything". If they made friends with a woman with the ultimate goal of dating her or getting into their pants, and she believes him at his words and treats him as a friend, who's to blame? Also, nobody has put a gun to their heads and asked them to stay around women who are not interested. Many continue to be the long-suffering friend, in hopes that one day she will see the lig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:21 PM
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Ok, even if I am outside and ask for a male friend to accompany me home, how's that acting entitled? Dont friends look out for each other? I have also visited a sick male friend and went with homemade goodies. Coz as a friend and well-wisher he is very dear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:15 PM
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How am I dehumanizing? If anything, I am opposing this sub's tendency to paint the vast majority of men with a similar brush. Many ppl here say that man and woman can never be friends, and generalize all men as nincompoops able to cultivate healthy friendships with women and being unable to interact with the opposite gender outside of romance and family. I am saying, it's not a man's problem. Some men undoubtedly think like this, but its not so much to do with their gender, more likely cultural …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:11 PM
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Thankfully our office provides dro, so don't have to other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:07 PM
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Nah. If you mean buying me stuff, or being my unaid bodyguard... nope. No gifts beyond birthdays. And that happens from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:48 AM
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male "friend" for a woman kinda takes the role of a bf, without having the benefits the bf gets. You are mistaken. I don't treat me male friends as a bf. I dont expect them to treat me anything more than a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:30 AM
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Dunno man, even if they were a normal engineer or professor, would have dated one of em, if they were interested
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:02 PM
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There are plenty of short to average-height men who are not classically handsome, that I find attractive- Michael Cera, Jesse Eisenberg, Mars Bruno, etc. Wouldn't call em ugly at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:55 PM
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?? Didnt get u
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:53 PM
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Dunno what blackpill is, but AD still counts as an attractive man to me. A slightly unconventional one maybe? He has odd features, but sooo many plus points - height, great hair, great skin and lean bod. To me, truly ugly men would be Danny DeVito
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:49 PM
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The only reason why looks are important (along with personality in romance and marriage, is coz at some point we have to bump uglies! We don't care about looks at all in platonic relationships. Why, coz there is no sex involved. Where sex is involved, there's more discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:45 PM
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Thats coz sex is involved. I am not saying he has to be handsome or anything. I myself am barely 6 on my best days. But, I have to find at least something appealing about him physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:38 PM
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Both are important. But yes, since sex is involved at some point, I have to find at least something attractive right? Otherwise how on earth will I function lol. Also, since am religious and believe in no sex before marriage and that jazz, no scope for me to have sex with someone and regret it. I have to marry and sleep with this person for at least some years. If we found nothing attractive about each other physically, how would we even do the do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:34 PM
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Tom Cruise is on the shorter side of the spectrum, still, at 1.7 m, it's not as if he's a Hobbit lol. But even if he is among the shorter guys, he has a killer face card. Thats what am saying, the guys you mentioned, 2 of em may have an "unattractive" feature or two, but also have desirable attributes. Most ppl, if they like something about your appearance, are willing to overlook the rest. Most women don't expect that their bf will look like a flesh and blood version of Michelangelo's David.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:30 PM
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Nah, it has a role believe me. But physical attraction is equally as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:26 PM
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She. I am a woman lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:25 PM
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Adam Driver is almost 1.9 m tall, and far from obese. Nice skin and hair too. Just odd features. Actually, he looks kinda great with a moustache and a goatee beard. Second guy.. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:24 PM
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See what
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:35 PM
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Many fat girls have great faces. Young Adele is one such example. Barbie Ferreira is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:35 PM
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Depends on the facial features of a skinny, short guy. Would absolutely date such a guy, provided he's not abusive, homeless, or jobless. Like, I find Bruno Mars very attractive. Danny Devito? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:28 PM
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Clooney is over 1.8 m in height. And his face is handsome enough. Rugged maybe, but not unpleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:21 PM
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yes, but there's a marked difference between having some "ugly" attributes but also being tall or good physique or with decent facial structure, or with great hair, than being a Quasimodo, with no redeeming physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:18 PM
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I dunno how common this is in the West. But in India, where genders are more segregated and most men are not habituated to interacting with women, they can commit such gaffes. I think, if a man is truly unable to be friends with the woman he likes, he should make that clear ASAP. If not on 1st meeting, then at least a month later. If a man has sex/romance on his mind, but platonic friendship on his lips, that disingenuous. He is no friend in that case. Also, if he thinks that waiting for months …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:44 AM
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How can you equate the two? Being rejected for romance is = to domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:28 AM
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