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symolan/r/Divorce_Men04/07/21 04:50 PM
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symolan/r/Divorce_Men09/02/21 11:03 AM
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In the end it doesn‘t matter anymore. What matters is that you can close this chapter and open up a new one (not re relationships, but chapter in life). It is hell of a process! And as mother of your kids she will remain a part of our lives to some degree or other.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/21 07:50 PM
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A crush on somebody. Somebody close where she developed more feelings that are strictly comparible with being in a relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/21 06:26 AM
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The fuck are you asking whether you‘re the aggressor? Bro, read again what you wrote and ask yourself what advice would you give? GTFO!
/r/Divorce_Men29/11/21 05:41 PM
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No, it for sure isn‘t. Reading OP, to me at least the situation seems untenable. Either they work together to find a solution and it doesn‘t seem that she is willing. Or they don‘t. What he experiences must be hell at least for people to whom physical contact is important. As his needs aren‘t met she will feel pressured, so my guess is they both are in hell.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/21 01:25 PM
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Just for the records: „all the men are accusing her of cheating“ There‘re various posts that mention the possibility that she might be asexual. And you come here into a sub where people were or still are in a personal crisis. Of course we project! If you want a rational discussion I guess you‘ll find that on r/chess, possibly. Certainly not here and that is as it should be. Also, many of us had similar experiences and yes, in case she‘s not asexual, chances are that she‘s in a kind of affair. Be…
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/21 11:48 AM
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As she rejected counceling I guess he‘s already at Plan C: walk. Calling all other responses useless while yours reads as if you hadn‘t read OP at all.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/21 10:58 AM
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Many rewrite history in order to rationalize their wanting out. That also leads to gaslighting. Also, sounds like she is in an Emotional Affair. That sucks, I know, but it is what it is. Minimize contact, get divorced, get a new life. It hurts like hell, but time does heal. Eventually.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/21 09:37 AM
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Your kids still need you even when they are 18. they need a dad more than money. Money is no valid reason to check out early. (Also, as your XW is making nuff, what real difference would it make moneywise?) You need therapy. Your worth is not connected to your income. That ultimate sacrifice you speak of is not for the kids, but for yourself. But there‘s more & better out there that you earned to experience.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/21 08:47 AM
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"but we'll always remain family". I heard that also. And nope, that's not what divorce means to me.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/21 09:26 AM
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My problem is more that I don‘t know anymore what was real in the past. I know it actually doesn‘t matter. And still I didn‘t yet overcome the anger about her repainting the past. It‘s as all I had was never real and that can still piss me off. Guess, I‘ll be in a good place once I managed to overcome that.
/r/Divorce_Men17/11/21 01:09 PM
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Took her 3 years and innumerable hoops thru which I jumped in order to leave. As I kept jumping rhrough the visible hoops, she produced the invisible ones which I should have guessed properly. What an idiot I was to do the pick-me dance for whole three years!
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/21 02:36 PM
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I‘m on the same level income-wise and have three kids with her. I‘m wiring more to her than other households earn, but still… I save / waste more than I ever did before. So glad to earn well as in a normal job, I‘d be screwed financially. Yeah, it hurts to hand over substantial amounts. Still hurts more on the other end of the spectrum.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/21 12:23 PM
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Together for 20 years, married 11. With us, it's me that is being difficult. Reason: I'm still fucking disappointed in her even though it was not a bad story compared to many others. I'm not as difficult as your XW seems to be, but almost. I've been hurt and I'm simply not there yet where I can let the hurt go. So, walls are up anytime I have to interact. She tries to be nice, but I just can't reciprocate yet (I'm not being nasty, however, just siberian cold).
/r/Divorce_Men03/11/21 01:31 PM
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With me it took about 8-9 months to get out of the immediate crisis and the rollercoaster. Still not completely through 2 yrs later, but so much better. Hang in there. It will get better, slowly. And be nixe to yourself. It is indeed a mindblowing experience and you have the right to the rollercoaster.
/r/Divorce_Men26/10/21 12:35 PM
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We understand. We were there, too. You will come to the realization that this gaining her back was doomed from the start.
/r/Divorce_Men13/10/21 09:09 AM
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You are trying to win her back which most probably won‘t be succesful. You‘d rather plan your life after her than plan for the improbable.
/r/Divorce_Men13/10/21 09:07 AM
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Which is a funny thing as I thought at the time of Jesus there were temples and not churches.
/r/Divorce_Men03/10/21 02:02 PM
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Of course there was at least something. You know yourself that basically it doesn't matter what exactly. It's just the brain that won't stop. If I knew how to stop my brain I'd give you advice. Unfortunately, I'm not too good on stopping that either. Thus: just don't snoop. It will not make anything better and stuff will come out sooner or later anyway. Better in a way that doesn't make you self-conscious in the future.
/r/Divorce_Men30/09/21 09:31 AM
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Most probably there was and certainly it doesn't matter much now. You will most probably find out anyway, so try to focus on yourself. She's in the past. Leave her there.
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/21 02:53 PM
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Yes, it is. At least uniquer than most due to the homeschooling thing. Which I don‘t get at all, but that‘s maybe because I‘m Euro. Makes 50:50 prolly hard to do. Probably, for divorce to work, homeschooling would need to be reconsidered.
/r/Divorce_Men20/09/21 05:47 PM
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Robocop I think
/r/Divorce_Men16/09/21 08:56 AM
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Why would you give that, if avoidable? I am not sure how you can truly remain part of their lives if you‘re not around thru most of it? For me, the idea to just being able to visit the kids every now and then sure‘d have had me on the warpath.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/21 01:37 PM
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You will see soon enough. Instead of thinking about what‘s in her head, try to know whats in yours.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/21 05:26 PM
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Also, it doesn't sound as there's much of a relationship. I understand not wanting a divorce, but why wait if it's on the horizon anyway? Better have it behind than in front.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/21 10:26 AM
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Yes, don‘t believe you‘re in the last stage just because you were accepting for 5 minutes. It takes time to process.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/21 03:17 PM
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You do know what to do though, you're just not completely there yet. The situation is unacceptable as you describe it and needs to change. Changes, however, even after counseling, are not happening. So, either you accept that this is and will remain to be your life or you get out. And getting out seems best for all as nobody in your story seems to happy as it is.
/r/Divorce_Men24/08/21 09:23 AM
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Anger is part of the process. Just try to remain grey rock with her. The emotions are yours and it is most probably not productive showing these to her. The dissolution of the marriage is business and needs that mindset.
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/21 12:22 PM
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How bad it‘ll be depends on many factors I guess. Until the day she told me she wants a separation I was convinced that we will spend our lives together, even though I knew that we were going through a difficult patch. 20 years, 3 kids, a house… a large part of the life as I knew it changed in a very short time. If you‘re hurting remind yourself that such an amount of loss needs to hurt, that‘s not just a little stumble, it‘s a fundamental change in life. It might be less intense if you already …
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/21 10:53 AM
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You need ro be aware that she‘s also in crisis although - from the perspective of the dumpee, a nice one - so she‘s doing stuff you never thought possible. My XW was indeed no too bad, but even so she did things where I am just scratching my head and wonder WTF went through hers. Nothing too dramatic, but to ask the kids with whom they want to live without telling me (the MIL told me) and confusing the kids with questions where they don‘t have any real influence (bc they‘re too young and my job …
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/21 09:13 AM
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She has an emotional affair. They often have and need that to help their „escape“ in my view. There‘s nothing you can do to win her back. All trying will only put more pressuee on her making her distane herself faster and farther. All you can do is focus on you and your needs in the upcoming turmoil. Prepare your support network and be aware that an emotional rollercoaster of epic proportions is in your near future. Just you hold on and the intensity will lessen one day, but it will take time an…
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/21 09:07 AM
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Most probably that‘s not how it works. Child support is owed to the child in many places. Consult a lawyer.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/21 07:39 PM
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You are a courageous man to consider re-marrying. I do see the "in-love"-thing, but I am still wondering: why another marriage?
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/21 12:49 PM
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Or to ETH Zurich (#6 globally in the first ranking found) or EPFL. Yes, there‘re even more prestigious institutions around I sincerely hope they are worth their money. In Europe you don‘t need Harvard to start a career, you go there for an EMBA that‘s hopefully paid for by the employer once your career gets going. Of course it doesn‘t hurt either.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 06:36 PM
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Well, ETHZ is one of the best in Europe and just as cheap. But, I know that in the US somehow you need to go to the big expensive names.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 06:29 PM
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Ah, beauty of Europe: we don‘t need college funds here! A semester at my alma mater is about 700 bucks in fees:)
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 09:46 AM
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No. But that doesn‘t matter much actually. Thing is, that‘s how it is here. (Also, with all the anger I have about her leaving, I have to admit that she is quite reasonable usually. It‘s none of my worries that she‘d shorthand the kids for herself) I am lucky to not have a „normal“ job. At least money was not a worry in the whole process. It‘s hell as it is, if financial worries add to the mix… that‘s a whole other level I believe. I lack nothing and I don‘t spend much so that I am able to save …
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 08:57 AM
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Ah, but we are living in a very expensive country and as she‘s primary caregiver (as I can‘t be as I wasn‘t and have an exec job, would only be considered if she was a danger to the kids) and the law states that if possible the standard of living for the kids should be maintained… she needs it in order to maintain that standard. My basic mistake: I wanted to be a good provider. Money is nice, but I could do with far less. I should have not pursued a career, but a 50% job. Less money, more time w…
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 08:11 AM
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Just meant that mostly there‘s not much chance for full custody when the spouse did not completely fuck up. I‘m in Europe, so everything‘s slightly different anyway. Have my kids 3-4 nights a week, mostly over weekend as I work an exec job. So, I wire about +7k/month… she’s a part-time teacher and makes about 40k/year herself. In order to change that I‘d have to lose my job or should have been 50% SAHD from rhe beginning. I‘m basically cursed to remain in that kond of job for the next 10 years a…
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 07:40 AM
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Yes, she didn‘t ask a question as many here rightly say. Would you consider a swap of another holiday with Christmas? If yes, „I could imagine to swap“ If not, „I prefer to remain with the agreement“ To me, grey rock doesn‘t mean to show no flexibility re kids, but not to react should she be out to look for strive. But, as my ex is not one that falls under the total dragon category, but is indeed quite reasonable, I may be naive.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 07:31 AM
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And sprout wings so you can fly?
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/21 07:22 AM
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You‘re doing it wrong! You feed the dragon! Stop that. Grey rock.
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/21 09:17 AM
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Cataracts have been treated by the ancient egyptians even. I don‘t get how she can claim inability for work with the condition that has the most surgeries a year globally:
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/21 06:40 AM
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I understand the wish to see your kids. However, I don't see why you still help her when she's calling you a POS afterwards. Also, a kid puking is not exactly a doomsday scenario even if it is not fun at all.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/21 08:54 AM
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Yes, it is. But, I have to admit, his situation seems far more challenging for making the kids feel at home. I cannot imagine the situation he has (as far as I interpreted the disclosed info).
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/21 04:10 PM
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Yeah. I tried very much to show them that our new appartment is our home too. The kids have a second home. But they shall not be visiting me, bit gome home to me. But that is of course far easier done in my case where they‘re 3-4 nights per week with me than in OPs case.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/21 02:37 PM
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Do not take it personal. Since middle of June is quite a long time to be without mommy, when she's the usual primary caretaker (seems to me at least). Our kids would complain far earlier if they didn't see the other parent for such a "long" time.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/21 10:36 AM
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However pointless life may be and as an atheist, I consider it completely devoid of external meaning, it‘s the only and best entertainment available. Sometimes the entertainment sucks, terribly so, but it‘s always an experience. I‘d recommend therapy and trying to find joy in small things for yourself. You have you to be with for a time. Try treating you right. Easier said than done, I know. But there‘s not much else…
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/21 11:13 AM
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Not to tell something ain't lying. I didn't tell you most of my life which doesn't mean I lied to you. Taking your reply to the absurd: so, in another situation a wife is physically abused and everything is recorded on video. Not showing the video to the kids would be lying wouldn't it? That's absurd. Look at your motivation. Is the motivation in any way to protect your kids or improve their lives? No it isn't. It's just revenge for the hurt you're feeling. My STBXW was in an EA with a father of…
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/21 07:42 AM
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QED
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/21 05:56 AM
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Better to sound stupid than being it I guess. OP asks: should I tell the kids about ex affair. You say: I wouldn‘t give mercy. She deserves what she gets. There‘s nothing about what‘s best for the kids in it, just anger (which is justified, but).
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/21 04:03 AM
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Hmmm… was it a paid counselor? Doesn‘t that come with kinda customer protection stuff? Not an American so I don‘t know about your byzantine laws, but, being the guy, I‘d make a hobby of suing the shit out of Mr. Counselor (and usually I have the opinion that the AP isn‘t to blame, here it‘s a bit different as WTF). Ah, I see, he came to the same conclusion re uptake of a new hobby.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/21 04:15 PM
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Mercy to whom? Basically, you say, you‘d use your kids in order to punish your ex. That IMHO ain‘t healthy for anybody.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/21 04:09 PM
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I dunno about your Mum, you need to ask her. Best talk about that with Mum. Stuff like that. You should in my view not disclose negatives about your ex to your kids unless there‘s no other option. Most of the times there is. Kids don‘t need to know all the messy details that lead to a divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/21 04:08 PM
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I am on my way to divorce, will not remarry as in why? Have kids enough. I am not redpilled and not too sure about MGTOW, just learned thru living that I should never again focus most of me on just one person. I should retain MPO. That ain‘t got nothing to do about how women are, but to be able to lead an independent and happy life without going thru such crises as I just did. For me that doesn‘t mean I have to walk alone, just to have „my way“ and not just ours which at some point becomes hers.…
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 11:50 AM
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We‘re in a divorce. Obviously not everything went according to plan. Mistakes were made and improvement a positive. Just when you write about avoidance activities it seems a bit to me as you say you should habe skipped all of those in order to use the time to work on your self-improvement. I have my doubts that self-imrpovement works as a scheduled activity. And how far do you want to improve? Was it really that you needed to improve or that you needed consistency of the good? Don‘t get me wrong…
/r/Divorce_Men13/07/21 03:06 PM
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Yeah, I know about the she‘s happily moved on. Not that I wish her ill, but emotionally it is like „it wasn‘t so important anyway“ (viewed rationally it‘s different I know) which is not the signal you want when you‘re still wondering whether there‘s really light at the end of the tunnel or just e flamethrower.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/21 11:02 AM
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Silly me, not feeling ready for dating… As in, any effort to get a date seems like a pick-me-dance to me that I cannot abide atm. (This includes selecting a pic for a profile, even that seems like too much compromising)
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/21 07:54 AM
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Thank you and yes, it most probably is an almost daily decision at the moment to not give in to negativity. And to allow for more time. The tunnel is long and patience is needed.
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/21 12:11 PM
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I‘ve done what she asked. She admitted I‘ve done what she asked, but she couldn‘t accept the changes cause they only came after she asked for them. Slowly I realize that it was not change she wanted, but to no longer be married. No jumping through hoops ever again!
/r/Divorce_Men30/06/21 11:50 AM
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Too soon, too rushed, too much of a red flag. Better the smaller heartbreak now than the probable divorce in the future.
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/21 09:11 AM
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Why fight the losing battle when there‘s one that you could actually win? You will not win her back. The earlier you try to find any positives in the new situation, the better.
/r/Divorce_Men08/05/21 07:02 AM
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I have the same issue. If you don‘t believe in God‘s plan, it was obviously just a pointless fuck-up. However, it is reality and life‘s short, so there‘s the will to get over it. And regarding replacing: I do not want to give anybody else the power she had over me:
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/21 09:58 AM
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What you describe sounds as if you were better off divorced sooner rather than later.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/21 09:22 AM
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I am going through an amicable (& unwanted) divorce and I am having a hard time. Cannot imagine how desperate it must feel if it goes to open war, but these things happen indeed. And they cause so much damage.
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/21 11:28 AM
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Also in my country the gender pay gap is real. The question whether that is because employers pay less bc of gender, however, is IMO not proven (as an employer I‘d be an idiot to employ men if that was the case). In my country, women get more degrees also. But many women with degrees don‘t actually work on the job, but become part-time SAHM which of course impacts earning potential. And here‘s the point: society still makes men believe that they should be providing for the family. In hindsight I…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/21 09:56 AM
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The huffpost article is quite biased IMHO. There are some points that are worrisome, some factors, however, are completely missing. W/o looking for the stats: usually fathers work more and wifes less so that they are more involved with the kids. Fathers assumption in divorce usually is that they will need to keep providing or even provide more as costs go up due to divorce. So, as they were working full-time they don‘t expect to have great cards going for a large custody involvement compared to …
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/21 09:44 AM
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I‘ll find lots of stuff one google away, also things that contradict. The gender pay gap exists. Studies I looked at were not designed to capture all possible explanations for its existence, however. In other words: does it exist just because of gender or because of other issues that are influenced by gender. And Huffpost is nice, but also has an agenda. So, no wonder you get some opposition here where the guys are that experienced just the opposite (subjectively or objectively). I‘m quite sure …
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/21 09:14 AM
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Even with kids: get out! Better now than a miserable 10 yrs later.
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/21 09:54 AM
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We live a few hundred meters apart (a hill between though). Cannot imagine different due to kids... Once they‘re off, however, nothing will hold me here.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/21 08:11 PM
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yeah, it's a pity when the marital home turns into the martial home.
/r/Divorce_Men15/04/21 07:26 AM
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how do you see joint stuff with her and the kids in the future?
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/21 12:53 PM
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Kids is the reason. I did not leave until separation / custody was in place.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/21 11:17 AM
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Dealt with similar for 3 years. 18 months separated and going the d-route. Look after yourself and limit your hopes. Focus on you, don‘t try chasing her.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/21 11:12 AM
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Yeah, it is unfair and your story even more. I can imagine the hard time you have at grasping all the inconsistencies, but it is what it is. Only thing you can do is look after yourself and your kid best you can.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/21 09:42 AM
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You do have kids aka responsibility to/for them. That‘s not solved by sending checks. You‘ll persevere also.
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/21 09:36 AM
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This! Don‘t let her gaslight you.
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/21 03:34 PM
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It is a nightmare. It will be hard and painful and you‘ll be hit by emotions like never before (at least it was with me). Unfortunately, there‘s no other way than through it. We‘ll make it too!
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/21 01:43 PM
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Frankly, it's almost certain that it's over. Do not set your hopes on the therapy. Most prolly she uses that to make you believe it's truly over. Your working assumption now should be that you will divorce. Act accordingly. Plan for your life after. Focus on you and your kid. Her sexual issues won't be magically solved by another guy. But that's not pertinent to you.
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/21 10:22 AM
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IMO she handed you a loaded gun and you‘re unwilling to use it. I believe you can find a good lawyer as there‘s money in it and a good settlement as she fucked up.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/21 10:20 AM
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While I see where you‘re coming from, it might be worth to have a bit of a different perspective. The proposal is such that you‘d be almost the only real parent on a day-to-day basis. I see what you mean, but think you‘d raise your kids far more than she.
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/21 01:26 PM
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I have an exec job, so, nice home, nuff money, no worries, but the 10hrs was the normal working day and at times they were longer. When I came home, after dinner I usually brushed my kids' teeth and put them into bed. Often I was tired and still in the work-tunnel of my mind, so I didn't come home and was all the time 100% focused on the kids. This was one item on the list of my inadequacies. I am wondering whether she manages to give them 100% of herself after coming home from work now (as she …
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/21 10:02 AM
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Women gaslight men into thinking they aren't a good parent throughout the marriage I wouldn't want to generalize that, but yes, some of that was the case with me. "You are not the Dad I expected you to be". Goddam that hurt. This because I am not Mr. Adventure-Dad having tons of experiences with the kids and always on the road with them. But I am there for them. Always. She tended to get emotional and yell at the kids. I tried to calm her down, saying that this ain't good, but we're just human a…
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/21 02:29 PM
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Strange how one can come to realize how fear has been driving more than one ever believed possible.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/21 07:01 PM
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ATM I am not so certain whether I ever want a committed relationship again. I was wondering whether it‘d be only bad for the kids if they saw me in a lifestyle without such committments. Maybe, they‘ll be more realistic about chances of a marriage than I was based on my story so far.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/21 02:57 PM
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I am glad to live in a country where 80k in savings isn't considered enough to warrant any amount of gold-digging.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/21 11:48 AM
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Funny enough, just today I went on a 1.5hrs walk with her. Felt triggered by her asking for the chat and that it won‘t leave me till it happens, so, I asked yesterday for today. I think it was helpful. We did not go into too much details about the past. But, as both have come out of their immediate emotional crisis we were able to see each other again as persons. Which helped as a prelim. Conclusion, to see that she doesn‘t really se the evil-bad-boring-manipulative-materialistic person in me I …
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/21 06:47 PM
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Reading thru that I got the impression you‘d profit by some time alone. I also thought having no sex is terrible. Nowadays, I would still like to have sex, but I am not up to perform the pick-me dance in any form. I don‘t NEED no woman anymore. Glad to have one again eventually or not.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/21 07:00 AM
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Please, there‘re former presidents that‘ve done worse. Also, weed is legal in enviable places.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/21 05:40 PM
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What I don‘t get from a legal perspective (not US) why repeated stunts in that form dragging a person into the mud cannot be considered defamation.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/21 09:29 AM
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EA is an emotional affair; yeah, there‘s a lingo here:) Life happened. I wasn‘t and still am not perfect and she felt not supported enough I guess, built up resentment, got distant, I chased which is NOT the thing to do. That also happens on the high-end as I still consider myself a catch. May be similar there as well. while each case is unique, many are eerily similar stories.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/21 07:17 PM
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That sounds reasonable: not discuss the past, but rather the future. We can coparent. We are in contact often we just refrain from anything personal. I don't even ask her how she's doing... Strange as it sounds, these are friendly calls. Like with a coworker you actually like, but don't want to share personals.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/21 04:09 PM
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well that sounds special regarding the 20k. I understand you and most probably would be similar if she had cheated!
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/21 03:59 PM
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Lawyer up and go to war.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/21 07:28 AM
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You‘re most probably right in regards to her having wanted out, it‘s a whole different question whether the answer to that really helps.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/21 06:22 PM
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